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Title: Is it possible to choose to have a religious belief / to make yourself believe?
Post by: heisenbergman on Jul 21, 2015 at 01:10 PM: Doesn't belief only come either through logical persuasion (and that's only a weak belief) or a predisposition of the spirit? Maybe you can foster belief through repeated acts of devotion– going to church, facing Mecca and praying five times a day, observing Passover - but "to hear the voice of God in your soul" seems like the product of more than just a conscious decision. I'm not saying that you're either born with it or you aren't, but you won't get much by snapping your fingers and saying "I believe."

What's the take of folks here?
Title: Re: Is it possible to choose to have a religious belief / to make yourself believe?
Post by: SiCkBoY on Jul 21, 2015 at 02:04 PM: But that's the whole idea of believing. It's a choice.

My old religion professor always says, "Where logic ends, faith begins."
Title: Re: Is it possible to choose to have a religious belief / to make yourself believe?
Post by: heisenbergman on Jul 21, 2015 at 02:30 PM: But believing requires a lot of thinking and reasoning. It's not like u can just go "okay, I believe from this day onwards," right?
Title: Re: Is it possible to choose to have a religious belief / to make yourself believe?
Post by: DVD_Freak on Jul 21, 2015 at 02:43 PM: Quote from: heisenbergman on Jul 21, 2015 at 02:30 PM
But believing requires a lot of thinking and reasoning. It's not like u can just go "okay, I believe from this day onwards," right?

What's your personal take on it?
Title: Re: Is it possible to choose to have a religious belief / to make yourself believe?
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 22, 2015 at 06:26 AM: For me, it's not really "actively" choosing to believe, more of passively. A person born to a family with religion would fall into that. A person born into a family of non-believers most probably would need a life changing "miracle" before he believes.
Title: Re: Is it possible to choose to have a religious belief / to make yourself believe?
Post by: tony on Jul 26, 2015 at 04:07 PM: i believe in a GOD, but not the kind that needs to amass money and build structures not of GOD....
Title: Re: Is it possible to choose to have a religious belief / to make yourself believe?
Post by: RU9 on Jul 26, 2015 at 10:52 PM: Quote from: heisenbergman on Jul 21, 2015 at 01:10 PM
Doesn't belief only come either through logical persuasion (and that's only a weak belief) or a predisposition of the spirit?

- but "to hear the voice of God in your soul" seems like the product of more than just a conscious decision. I'm not saying that you're either born with it or you aren't, but you won't get much by snapping your fingers and saying "I believe."

This is exactly the same question that I am searching for an answer. Maybe faith is a gift. I am leaning more on predisposition--"you're either born with it or you aren't". Forcing yourself to believe will not work.
Title: Re: Is it possible to choose to have a religious belief / to make yourself believe?
Post by: dpogs on Jul 27, 2015 at 12:37 AM: Quote from: RU9 on Jul 26, 2015 at 10:52 PM
This is exactly the same question that I am searching for an answer. Maybe faith is a gift. I am leaning more on predisposition--"you're either born with it or you aren't". Forcing yourself to believe will not work.

that is why i love the phrase

"God will make a way" - man will never learns to look a way that will lead him/her to God unless God leads him/her.
Title: Re: Is it possible to choose to have a religious belief / to make yourself believe?
Post by: BLUED_2007 on Aug 03, 2015 at 06:16 AM: Don't believe in any religion. Believe in God.
Title: Re: Is it possible to choose to have a religious belief / to make yourself believe?
Post by: tigkal on Aug 04, 2015 at 07:27 PM: And believe because without motivation of a reward. If you believe, believe not because you want to avoid hell, or want to go to heaven. believe because you believe. Other than that, it is selfishness.
Title: Re: Is it possible to choose to have a religious belief / to make yourself believe?
Post by: dpogs on Aug 04, 2015 at 09:27 PM: Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

James 2:19