rare find yata yung luxman pre, dahil madalas ako dun sa pier pero first time ako nakakita ng tubo doon. last week lang wala yun dun eh. dalawang brands ang mahirap hanapin - luxman & accuphase. kung makakita ako nun bili agad, approve without thinking. ang impression ko kasi sa luxman at accuphase ay ka-level niya ang nakamichi. yung mga amps nila ay usually isang dangkal ang taas dahil super laki ng power supply. medyo exception nga lang yung nabili ko dahil mahina. pero sa sound quality patok.
Onkyo Integra A-2001
This is a black 1987 model rated at 150W/ch. It can deliver 490W per channel on 2 ohms. It also has built-in DACs so you can connect your CD/DVD player thru optical or coax digital cable. Definitely, approve without thinking.
levi & john5479, thanks for the suggestion on the luxman tubes. tama ka john, availability was japan only thats why there's hardly any info on them. kung meron man, nihonggo pa.
Dati may nakita ako niyan, last year siguro, kasabayan nung Yamaha NS1000M na speaker na nakuha ko. Di ko masyadong pinansin kasi di ko pa kilala. sayang nga eh.
Hi guys,
I own a used (but in mint condition) Yamaha MX-1 power amp. Got it for a hefty P45k. No I do not have lots of bucks but that is how much I yearn for this amp so talagang pinag-ipunan ko!
I came to know this guy in one of the hi-fi net forums who happens to be married to a Filipina. He was once a sales manager in one of a high end hi-fi store in New York City and was able to own several highly priced esoteric amps until he got to hear the MX-1 and he never changed amp since then. He was the one who persuaded me to buy the amp and I am glad I did.
The Yamaha MX-1 is a legend like the NS1000 speaker as these units were made only in limited quantities. Just to give you an idea on how beautiful this amp sounds – read on:
1. The MX-1 can easily pump 1000W into 1ohm other well-known hi-end brands will be choking at this point. Most other brands would not even recommend a load of 2ohms.
2. MX-1 employs C-Core twin 700VA(1.5Kva total) transformers. It is dual mono design and in pure Class A operation.
3. The MX-1 has 4 massive capacitors totaling 10000 Pico farads of capacitance and ten audiophile grade MOSFET (not bi-polar) transistors per channel.
4. The MX-1 has two 700VA transformers, which form the major portion its weight at 24 kg!
5. The MX-1 has a distortion figure of .008% THD at 1KHz, and an SNR of 125dB. With super fast slew rate and a high damping factor of over 350, you get an exceptionally fast, high resolution amplifier which makes complicated things like guitar strings come alive. Most amplifiers, even the so-called audiophile ones fail in this litmus test.
6. Maximum power consumption is at 1,950 watts (patay kang bata ka pag dating ng Meralco bill).
All these boil down to one thing – a sweet natural sounding amplifier with enough reserve power to handle even the most demanding musical load.
Those who may or have stumbled upon this particular unit might want to audition it and then get back at me to disprove what I have written here!
Listen to it – and if you like what you hear do not hesitate to buy it, it is a treadure!
anybody selling this 30 year old amp?
Accuphase E-202
(http://www.accuphase.com/e-202.jpg)
5 out of 5 in 12 consumer reviews, some owning it for 24 - 30 years.
"I have listened to so many of the renowned "BIG BUCK" amplifiers over the years, that I can confidently state that this is one of the best, if not the best, amplifiers of all time.
Someday if I have the money, I will go to pier and buy several good surplus amps just like you did. Sadly, the MX-1 purchase has put a strain on my budget : (
i'm buying the amp for my turntable setup, so i don't need digital amps. maganda yung Sansui kasi may MM or MC selector siya. maganda yung gimmick ng Trio kasi independent yung Left and Right channels, kaso nga lang ang speaker eh (off, A, B) walang (A+B).
yup Qman, apat lahat pero sira yung isang luxman kaya pang spare parts na lang... baka hindi ko na ibebenta mga yun.. hehe. kung sakali man pang regalo sa anak o apo (kung magkaroon).
onga Qman, halos maiyak ako nung nasira yun.
nagsimula magkaroon ng scratchy noise sa left channel. tapos nun ayaw na mag-"click" nung relay switch ba tawag dun. mukhang buhay pa naman dahil umiilaw pa yung tubes kaso lang walang tunog.
fakelondongenius
acquired mo na iyong Trio KA-8700 anong tweak ang gagawin mo?
Akyatbundok,
sir, parehas lang ba yung Sansui AU-D907X
sa AU-907X? thanks
http://www.sansui.us/images/AUD907X/aud907x_11.jpg (http://www.sansui.us/images/AUD907X/aud907x_11.jpg)
Marantz PM 74D P 4,000
hybrid pala talaga yung Luxman! ;D
I now declare, akyatbundok to be the King of Japanese Surplus Amps! :D
If anybody spot another NEC A-10/A-7 series if they happen to be in pier, please post - planning to buy 2 more.
If you are looking HT receiver, my experience is that the difference in price of those receiver is not different with brand new receiver (differences of 1000-2000 only) and comes with no warranty and bad packaging.
DVD players could be good in the place though
mga sirs,
OT:
saan safe mag-park ng car sa pier? ??? i'm sure you all bring your ride when you buy an amp, sa bigat ba naman ng mga transformers nyan ;) ;D ... amp built like a tank. :o
thanks
infront of the stores pwede & safe magpark. you just give 5 bucks to the watch ur car guys there. malawak ang space. suggest medyo agahan mo lang para sure na di mahirap maghanap ng space.
8)
They do if you want, siyempre at addl price (normally 500). As to your previous question, some amp in pier has jumper at the back for pre-out/main-in. Tis means you can use them as separate amps. One of the amp still in pier is one of the famous marantz quartet-A technology - PM-74D model (about P4000) which is similar to Yamaha MX-1 in low-impedance capability. Di ko na kinuha because I like the NEC-A10II.
julsp168 - ang linis ng amp na yan ah , ikaw na naglinis o sila? pwede ba pabuksan habang bumibili?
Marantz PM 74D P 4,000
have you seen this amp in pier?
Julp,
Pa audition naman hehehe kung pwede??
yes. ;)
merong surplus shop sa Cubao. kahelera ng Isetan. katabi ng mga nagbebenta ng tv.
it sounds awesome, mataba tumunog yet detailed.
best buy pa rin yung surplus PM-74D if its still working flawlessly.
I have the same observation. :)if the amp is in good condition, budget and performance wise, this is the best option. ;D
but if you can find PM-94 at a relatively higher price than PM-74D, i'd go for this amp:
best buy talaga yang pm-94, julsp... yung nakausap kong matanda na nagbebenta ng luxman hybrid amps, ang sabi niya mas maganda daw tunog nung pm-94. kaya ang benta niya sa marantz pm-94 ay 40k versus 15k sa luxman lv-103. parang brand new kung mag presyo si manong. buti na lang may pier. ;D
bro, i saw the pics briefly but now they're gone. ???
jofkevski, a friend of mine has a similar idea as yours. he wants to build his HT using only a dvd player w/ built-in DD/DTS decoder, and then 2 surplus amps plus a sub. he's gonna phantom the center (we got the idea from av_phile - thanks bro!) with his diamond 8.1 for a very cheap but kick-major-booty 4.1 system.
sir joan2, thanks for the tip. ill look up a few contacts re: rewinding the tranny on my amp.
meantime, here's what happened to me this weekend -- "murphy's law"!!
i turned on my integrated amp to warm up the tubes in my luxman. im so clumsy, i forgot that i had previously removed the speaker cables from my speaker. i was just putting down the phone when i saw the speaker cable on the floor, with the banana terminals touching each other!!
"anything that can go wrong will go wrong" -- i lost the right channel.. hu hu hu :-[
ive always been careless about these things bcoz of the circuit protection in newer amps. its the 2nd luxman hybrid in a row that ive clobbered. i felt so bad, i only had one thing in mind: in my next trip to my favorite shopping mall ("The Pier")... i'll get me one of those big killer amps.
...and so i did. ;D
i see what you are getting at... admittedly the digital decoder of the kebao is cheap. magaspang tunog compared to having an AVR do the decoding, although a plus for the kebao vs nextbase is that it has an onboard DTS decoder (which is also cheap ;D)
which is why i'm still on the lookout for an affordable receiver with pre-outs :)
the power of murphy's law demostrated once more....i wonder who else got bitten....
i have had extensive experience in repairs of these amps, i have builtseveral power amps over the years, i can do repairs or you or i can look at your amps and tell you what you can do if you are interested in tweaking the insides o your amps,to me this is more challengin than to debate over cables and inter-conects, an i assure you that this is not as expensive.....
hi Sir,
tagal na ako interested sa gainclones nyo, lalo na ngayon that you can also repair/tweak amps
how do i get in touch with you?
thanks!
i can do repairs or you or i can look at your amps and tell you what you can do if you are interested in tweaking the insides o your amps,to me this is more challengin than to debate over cables and inter-conects, an i assure you that this is not as expensive.....
i found another gem at the pier when i bought the sansui, pero defer ko lang muna pag post ng info, pinagiisipan ko pa kung kukunin as a replacement for one of my amps. di ako maka-decide if i should sell one of them to get this new one. we demo'd it and it sounded awesome.
thanks bullet. sana nga magtagal yang sansui. mahirap magkaroon ng "magic touch", yun bang lahat hawakan ay nasisira. ;D ;D
fakelondongenius, thanks & congrats din sa amp mo. ako din speaker ang susunod. actually may nahanap na ako pero di ko pa binibili.. having 2nd thoughts about the size, para kasing refrigerator na maliit hehe.
sir joan2, sent you email... HELP!
jofkevski ,
if you are planning that route, i suggest that you use the same model power amps, reason is that with the same amps, the gain of the amps will be identical, so that balancing will be easier than using dissimilar ones...just my 2 cents...
Thanks for the reminder. This is the reason why I have to tag 2 identical integrateds (which can function as a separte) to buy in pier - to maintain gain and amp signature on sound.
Mga sir, nagpunta kami ng friend ko yesterday sa isang surplus shop sa along aurora dito sa cubao halos malapit lang sa COD. ang daming surplus amps. may nakita nga kami na mga onkyo integra tulad nung kay akyat bundok. and mga mukhang ok pa ang condition. malilinis pa. ang dami...sarap tumingin..he he he i guess mas masarap bumili non......for FYI lang naman baka may gusto mag drop by don sa lugar. :)
Then I will keep my Yamaha RX-V630 and will use its pre-out (L, R, surrounds no center). 8.1 are all my surrounds.
joan2, ill try to visit you this weekend sir (bringing my sick amp to the doctor )... im learning alot from you even though i havent met you.
sir jofkevski ... meron po ba kayong User Manual ng RX-V630 nyo? kung meron man, pwede po bang makopya?
friend ko kasi gusto ipa-setup nang maayos ang HT nya kaso nawawala ang manual nya ... thanks
mods, excuse me muna kung OT ito ;)
guys bago lang ako dito maybe some of you might recognize my screen name, dami ako natutunan dito, tapos nandito din pala si sir joan2, eh talgang matututo nga tayo,:) sir tanong ko lang po, in setting up the audio part, kailangan ba seperate amp yung subwoofer sa mga sattelite speakes?kase im thinking pagsamasamahin ko yung apat na surround speakers tapos center speakers, saka yung dalawang 12" 350w na subwoofer ko sa isang amp lang. suggest nga po kayo ng magandang setup para sa balak ko, i prefer surplus amp lang po, bale ganito po gusto ko 4 surround speakers consist of tweeters and mid-range, 1 center speaker consist of two mid-range, and two subwoofer consist of two 12" 350w speaker. TIA
mahusay talagang magpaliwanag si sir joan2....buti na lang madalas kayo dito... sir anong work nyo????OOngi.....EB minsan hehe....
kung pang turntable etong onkyo 5 options sa cartridge:
(http://203.131.66.146:8080/integra1.jpg)
characteristic nito is bright and powerful/aggressive, so it goes better with my friend's laid back wharf diamond than my bright mordaunts.
i have a sony 333ES, the sound characteristic is: tight bass & laid back treble so its a good match if your speakers are too bright.. but not a good match if you have a laid back tweeter like wharf diamond.
thanks a lot pre! very nice review/comparison. ill audition it too but with their speakers lang muna since i dont have my B2s yet but from what your saying it sounds like a good amp.
yamaha ns-1000 is in stereophile's 100 most important products in audio history.. it's #91.
akyat,
looks like the sony has more muscle, and room to spare for a bigger traffo...the luxman is very lean, from what i see....if i can get schematics of the sony, been trying but no luck with the luxman, then we're in bussiness, what i can do is set the volage gains of both amps to be the same so thart if you decide on bi-amping it will be easy...offhand, my impression with you luxman is that the tubes drive the mosfets, that is why there are two smaller traffos in there....can you post the tube part number, i bet its a pentode or a triode operated in a single ended mode....likewise, can you post the specs for the black filter caps on both amps? thanks
Hi Joan2
How can i safely use my 110-120vac wall outlet to power a future surplus amp rated at 100v only? Thanks.
can he ask for samples? onsemi, ti and national have sample programs, maybe toshiba has too.....
Akyat,
Malupet Sansueeee.. match na match sa B4 sarap lakas pa ng volume but kakahiya sa neighbor mo.. grabe ang power ng sansui kayang kaya i drive ang B4 to disco level..
To the guys.. ano masasabi nyo..
Pangit.......
ang maunang bumili sa akin ng sansui
iceman, so far i haven't seen one. the closest i've seen is an integrated amp with direct power amp inputs.
oisst mga p're, sshhhhhhhh. nakalista na number ko dun in case may dumating na alpha-907 hehe.
yung napagusapan natin ha, ang style ng pagbili dun ay wag agad babanggitin ang brand at modelo na hanap niyo. baka tumaas presyo eh. mawawala ang element of surprise hehe. binabasa din nila ang kilos natin. minsan tinataasan yung price kung di mo na maitago na kukunin mo na. kelangan medyo pa-kyeme muna, "sige tingin lang ako sa kabila". malas mo lang kung pagbalik mo paalis na ko dala-dala ko na hehehe.
Teka teka teka... galing na ako kanina no....
Sansui AU-alpha707
click the pic!
(http://203.131.66.146:8080/sansui.jpg)
(http://www.pbase.com/akyatbundok/sansui)
things i like:
- glossy finish
- huge transformer
- beer can size capacitors
- isolation of pre/power/terminal sections
- power amp direct/main-inputs
- XLR balanced inputs
- gold plated RCA jacks
- big binding posts
- the big & warm sound!
its been a month since i got the sansui. i started to write my impressions when i posted the pics last month, but i changed my mind coz i wanted to keep it to myself, lie low muna until i spot the newer & higher model alpha-907i. baka tumaas ang demand eh, di ko na makuha.
ngayon di na pwede itago dahil buking na!! hehe
(don't get the F or G models, they're not as good as the alpha)
oh man, that is one seriously big amp... isn't that the international equivalent of the au-907?
internal pic --> Sansui AU-D11 (http://www.sansui.us/images/AUd11_00008.jpg)
With much regret, Yup, Looks sadly familiar. Am not sure of the international name though. thanks for reminding me.
Oh dont despair now! It is just 120watts/channel. THD 0.005%
weighs 17.5kg, 600watts power consumption, 150W damping factor into 8 ohms. freq response DC-300khZ 0,-3dB.
You can buy it again!!! . . . . . what???
Yes, you can buy it again.
AU-D11 is the international release of japanese AU-D907F (circa 1980). So get one for yourself in pier - PHP 5,500.
akyat patulong ako mahanap manual nang AU-alpha507i at AU-D707G extra para makapagdecide ako kung maganda before ko kunin :D
well if you get three of those if its possible replace the power supply caps :)
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Definitely. Just hope hindi lang yun.
hehe pwede ka na mag dealer ng power caps... each amp has 8 large ones, so you will have 24 of them softdrink-sized caps.
sama din ako sa surplus amp eb.. basta boss akyat.. pag merong bago.. inform mo muna ako bago sila ha.. heheehehe
j_albert22, pictures of the different models can be found in the sansui.us website. i saw the rear pics of the alpha507i and d707g there... it seems they dont have power amp direct inputs so you cannot use them as a power amp for your receiver. but if your intent is for a separate stereo amp for music, the specs will be your guide. the alpha507i is kinda lightweight at 7.4kg. i couldnt find specs but i would estimate it to be between 60-80watts/ch. the 707's are usually 100watts/ch and above, which is my preferred power output.
click here --> Sansui models (http://www.sansui.us/Issues_IntvsDomestic.htm)
hehe pwede ka na mag dealer ng power caps... each amp has 8 large ones, so you will have 24 of them softdrink-sized caps.
I will I will!!!! I'll get three for a 6.1 set-up!!!
It's really amazing how well specified or designed those amps were. And to think Onkyo is trumpeting its WRAT receivers that only goes down to 10hz, when a 20 year old Sansui goes straight to DC.!!
I will I will!!!! I'll get three for a 6.1 set-up!!!
It's really amazing how well specified or designed those amps were. And to think Onkyo is trumpeting its WRAT receivers that only goes down to 10hz, when a 20 year old Sansui goes straight to DC.!!
I will I will!!!! I'll get three for a 6.1 set-up!!!
It's really amazing how well specified or designed those amps were. And to think Onkyo is trumpeting its WRAT receivers that only goes down to 10hz, when a 20 year old Sansui goes straight to DC.!!
Three integrated amp for a 6.1 setup? Then 3 rin ang volume mo? Panahon pa ni lexmil yang planned setup mo. Diba mahirap yon. Mas mura pa bumili ng 6 channel receiver para tapos agad. Cheaper pa in your part.
Here we go again...
Can you please explain to me why buying 3 surplus unwarranted amplifiers (even if it is highly rated) would be better off than buying a spanking brand new 6.1 receiver with all the latest technology and warranty to boot.
I can understand it if you have 3 amps lying around and you are just making do with the situation. But to spend the same amount of money that can buy you a brand new one seems incredulous. I'm stumped. But hey, I'm open minded. I'm willing to listen. I might have missed something here.
No offense meant. But I hope the newbies discern when they are being taken for a ride. >:(
We're all responsible adults here.
<correction added> We should all be responsible adults here.
well, take it from me, i've tried it (partially anyway)... adjusting the volume is a pain!! say for example i'm in the middle of a movie and my sister asks me a question. i turn down the volume of the fronts first, and only the front effects go away, so the dialogue is still interfering with our conversation. then i turn down the center. now i hear all bass from the subwoofer. i tell myself forget the bass... what were you asking? - do you want meat lover's or super supreme? ... arrrgggh!! now i have to run the speaker setup again... how many interruptions happen in one movie? 5x = PAIN...
but if you already have a receiver and your intent is to give your front 2 channels additional muscle by using the power amp section of your integrated amp (assuming it has power amp inputs), then a surplus is an economical way of doing it. just be aware that this is JUNK were talking about. as long as you understand what it is... you get it as-is so you can either choose to make a gamble, or save up for a bnew unit.
Yup, I realize the risk. But like I said, am just thinking out loud. The possibliities out there are many. Surplus integrated or amps are an option for me. Have yet to visit the piers if such amps are inded available as mentioned here. And if i do get some nasty junks, I'd fall back to what little electrojics I know, confident that there are people in this forum I can rely on for needed assitance if i need some.
well, take it from me, i've tried it (partially anyway)... adjusting the volume is a pain!! say for example i'm in the middle of a movie and my sister asks me a question. i turn down the volume of the fronts first, and only the front effects go away, so the dialogue is still interfering with our conversation. then i turn down the center. now i hear all bass from the subwoofer. i tell myself forget the bass... what were you asking? - do you want meat lover's or super supreme? ... arrrgggh!! now i have to run the speaker setup again... how many interruptions happen in one movie? 5x = PAIN...
but if you already have a receiver and your intent is to give your front 2 channels additional muscle by using the power amp section of your integrated amp (assuming it has power amp inputs), then a surplus is an economical way of doing it. just be aware that this is JUNK were talking about. as long as you understand what it is... you get it as-is so you can either choose to make a gamble, or save up for a bnew unit.
bro - madali lang yan, hit the pause button on the dvd player ;D
bro - madali lang yan, hit the pause button on the dvd player ;D
Yes, I agree. It takes a little creativity to overcome what seems to be a challenge. If I will build a cheap but using good branded amplifier, this I will do
purchase a generic DVD player like kebao that has DTS (3,200)
purchase 3 japanese branded amplifier in pier (say Sansui alpha507i at 2,500 each)
purchase a subwoofer amplifier (say sansui alpha 607i at 4,000)
The first amp will have my front and rear left channels
The second amp will have my front and rear right channels
The third amp will have my center channel
the fourth amp (607i) to have the SW input
Since they are identical amplifier, the gain is identical for all of them. So, I adjust all of them at 12 o'clock position. The subwoofer control maybe at different setting. Volume control of everybody will be from DVD player.
Your equivalent AVR is only 7,500. This is a highend system, even though they are surplus. And can compete head-on with any system below 30k in sonic performance.
pwede na yung AU-alpha507i pero tanong ko kung may parating pang bago.......timbre ko na lang ;D
pssst j_albert22, test niyo yan ha... siguraduhin niyo hindi yan kamatis! mura yan sa 2.5k pag amp ang mabili mo pero kung kamatis yan napakamahal na gulay yan! ;D ;D
eto checklist ko pag test ng kamatis este amp:
1) open the casing - check for evidence of replaced parts & excessive dirt
2) sound check 1 - set tone controls off then listen... if you dont like the sound don't buy it!
3) sound check 2 - turn it up loud... does it clip or distort?
4) left/right channel - both speakers working?
5) balance check - left and right are same tone & volume?
6) rust check - turn the knobs.. do static come out of the speakers?
7) power cord - is it cut or deformed? i've had both.. fire hazard!
i can honestly recommend you to not do this, save your money... i've tried this already
the digital decoder of the kebao is very harsh :P a 2nd hand entry level receiver will still sound much better ;)
J_albert,di pa scouting muna uli dami pa naman dyan e
Balita sir have you purchase the tomato???..
este amp pala..hehehehe
di pa scouting muna uli dami pa naman dyan e
na-test niyo ba? kung may time samahan ko kayo punta tayo sa pier tingin lang... pumupunta ako dun every 3 weeks tingin tingin lang in case meron makitang ginto... pero kadalasan uwi lang ako walang bitbit dahil karamihan ng nandun kalabasa hinde ginto. meron ako isang suspect na ginto pero balat bayabas kaya pinagiisipan ko pa hehe.
na-test niyo ba? kung may time samahan ko kayo punta tayo sa pier tingin lang... pumupunta ako dun every 3 weeks tingin tingin lang in case meron makitang ginto... pero kadalasan uwi lang ako walang bitbit dahil karamihan ng nandun kalabasa hinde ginto. meron ako isang suspect na ginto pero balat bayabas kaya pinagiisipan ko pa hehe.
and the output stages are not that good, plus the digital volume control for these players are not that good. When i had a five channel amp i connected it directly to the preouts of my daiwa dvd player and used its volume control, not that good :P even though you have a good amp if your source is not that good...don't expect miracles
Another test I made, if my memory does not fail me, is to test DD and DTS signal via optical connection - reduce volume on the DVD - the AVR will decode this as lowering of volume. I have to re-confirm this tomorrow after I test it tonight.
when i did this, lowering the volume on my kebao remote does not lower the volume when connected to my avr via digital connections
the kebao 3089 can only send out either analog (via 5.1 rca) or digital (optical or co-ax). selecting either of the two disables the other...
JOhn,
I am sorry, I can not follow on the description above.
I have a Kebao connected to a surplus amplifier - Yamaha AVR1000. I have a specification of the amplifier somehow, and I noted the sensitivity it needs is much smaller than Kebao output. So I have to somehow lower the output from my kebao DVD. I have a very good and clean sound. Before I bought this surplus amp, I really checked that everything looks and sound alright.
The volume control of Kebao and Nextbase is digital - and as such, it has no output stage (analog stage) which makes up the volume control. The RCA out of these DVDs are not pre-out - it is still the line out at around 40K+ impedance. Connecting this to MAIN input of an amp will really yield a bad sound because it is not enough to feed the power amplifier.
Going back to DVD volume control, I tested this is digital - not analog stage. Connect an AVR to the DVD via optical, play a CD (this will be PCM-2 channel), make volume change on your DVD, your AVR will be able to decode the digital signal as lowering the volume.
Another test I made, if my memory does not fail me, is to test DD and DTS signal via optical connection - reduce volume on the DVD - the AVR will decode this as lowering of volume. I have to re-confirm this tomorrow after I test it tonight.
Based on this experimentation, I think what I posted can still be done with good sound - but it might just be me - but listening to it will still be your final judgment though.
hmmmm ::).... i think if ur gonna use the optical or coaxial outputs of your dvd...it wont affect the volume...kasi it only works kung rca out or analog out mo kunin..... ;D
latest sighting... sansui AU-alpha607KX
- 2 gold-plated RCA power amp inputs !!
- amp selector: power amp direct 1, 2 or integrated amp
- 12th generation '92 model
- black glossy finish ala HK
- where: surplus store near farmers market fish section
- asking price 5k
... but watch out they're sneaky it changes to 7.5k if you show too much interest
(http://img131.ac.yahoo.co.jp/users/6/9/5/6/sing_song0813-img600x450-1068455130au-a607kx.1.jpg)
(http://img131.ac.yahoo.co.jp/users/6/9/5/6/sing_song0813-img600x450-1068455141au-a607kx.3.jpg)
pre san nakita yan? sa bahay mo na naman? ;D
Any inputs on the following surplus amps:
Sony TA-FA5es
Marantz PM-54D
Marantz PM-64D
Nakita ko sa pier, ganda ng looks.
Thanks.
philander, ganito ba yung nakita mong sony? naykupo, bago pa yata to ah. unahan na kita hehe.
(http://tukipie.net/audio/sonyamp1.JPG)
Yup, yan po iyon.... sabihin mo lang na maganda, baka maisipan hehehhheh... anyway its worth Php 5.5K.
Nakow! Newest addition to the family ng amps ni Aykat pag nagkataon... ;D
i just saw the marantz pm50 here in iloilo in one of surplus shops. theyre selling it for 8.5K. usually they sell surplus amps around 5-6K. siguro the interest of pinoydvd members over there tipped them off :( :( :(
akyat,
you started this thread on surplus amps... meron ng para sa cd player surplus.... i wont be surprised kung umpisahan mo ung thread ng surplus speakers bro ;D ;D ;D
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guys,
may power amp ba sa pier?
may nakita ako na clarion (nov 22) nung umaga na nadinig natin yung Pre :)
thanks pre. ;)
yukon,
thanks for elaborating!
sige bro. no prob. better to get hyper's CJ power amp. yun...di ko na kayang abonohan. hehehe.
(http://www.pbase.com/image/24319836)
eto subukan ko na
tawag mo dyan pre 'floorstanding bookshelves" ;D
ano pa nga ba ang nararapat......... SWAP na ng onkyo amp then you are both winners ;D ;D ;D
Guys,
Going back to the pictures of the big Kenwood speakers, didn't you notice one thing?
Try to see the arrangement of the mid and the tweeter, di ba kung baga sa sapatos parehong kaliwa o parehong kanan?
I had a similar big Kenwood speaker before (although mukhang mas low end yung sa akin). I had problems with imaging because of the driver placement on the front of the cabinet. All along akala ko parehong left (or right) yung nabili ko yun pala talagang ganon ang Kenwood!
amp shootout ba 'ka nyo? game ako dyan...
bro, links here:
click the 3 follow-up replies re: kl-777 (http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/vintage/messages/23552.html)
search kl-333 on this page - owner's impressions (http://www.livejournal.com/users/mfree/2002/10/22/)
i used to own the the LS-11ES (below) which i sold to a friend w/c i regret because i missed their bass slam.
(http://img45.ac.yahoo.co.jp/users/9/6/4/6/sitifuku_sp-img600x450-1070103618ken1.jpg)
then several weeks ago i saw a bigger version at the pier selling for 6k... i thought it was expensive for a surplus unit, but when i checked yahoo auctions and found that it was selling for 60,000yen i decided to give it a try.... the midrange metal done seemed very similar to the one used in the yamaha ns-1000x. unfortunately it was gone when i went back.
(http://img34.ac.yahoo.co.jp/users/5/7/5/0/apkame2-img600x450-1064392517lshg5000-1.jpg)
Sirs,
Can anyone provide information of the Kenwood KL-888X, I had an officemate who have these speakers and gusto ko sanang awitan kasi di na daw nila ginagamit. She can't provide me with a picture because it is in the province. According to her, it looks the same as the pictures above but can't tell the exact difference and she says it is a 5 way speaker system?
pre'ng akyat,
yan nga daw yun speakers sabi ng officemate ko. can you provide any info's kung magkano msrp tsaka reviews tungkol dito? thanks in advance.
for roughly the same moolah, which would you choose...
this amp... (AMX el34 tube amp, 60wpc, 2mos old, Php20k+ bnew)
(http://203.131.66.146:8080/amx2.jpg)
or this amp?? (Accuphase E-305V integ. amp, 130wpc, 16yrs old, Jpy250k bnew)
(http://www.accuphase.com/e-305v.jpg)
thanks for your inputs mga sir! hmmm baka magmistulang ss vs tube yata, di naman sinasadya hehe its a real decision to be made... been targetting the accuphase since december so i could consolidate all my ss amps into this one representative, and dispose of all the others... that is, if its better than all the others.
and then i heard a tube amp that could be used in both audio and HT... haaaay, life would be so simple if there was only 1 amp... if i dispose all of my beloved amps i would have enough dough to go ask mr. andrew to build monoblocs for me hmmmm. life is simple, no more changing cables, no more shorted amp, no more busted tweeter.
or maybe better still, have enough patience to acquire both and do an amp shootout... hmmmm it would be easy to sell the accuphase in case i find the tube amp more to my liking... but would it be just as easy to sell the tube amp in case the accuphase wins? hmmmm.
Well accuphase is a very reputable brand, the only problem with that is if it does break down, will it be easily serviced ??? , that is if it will break down :) If it matches your system then go for it.
hi, i just saw a surplus amp Denon PMA-780d for 5k,it has digital outs, am just wondering if this is any good, any feedback would be appreciated. Thank you !! :)
hi, i just saw a surplus amp Denon PMA-780d for 5k,it has digital outs, am just wondering if this is any good, any feedback would be appreciated. Thank you !! :)
akyat,
just curious lang ilan na ang amps mo?
also may pm ako sa iyo.
Eto po Amp ni Akyat...,
Sony ES, Sansui Alpha707, Luxman LV105, Luxman LV103, Kenwood THX, Onkyo 819, Accuphase, Maranzt AVR,WS pre-amp...pre may nakalimutan pa ba ako???
Eto po Amp ni Akyat...,pwede na siguro magtayo ng surplus shop si akyat ha ::)..ganda ng accuphase!!! :o..speakers kaya ilan? ::)
Sony ES, Sansui Alpha707, Luxman LV105, Luxman LV103, Kenwood THX, Onkyo 819, Accuphase, Maranzt AVR,WS pre-amp...pre may nakalimutan pa ba ako???
Sir Philander,
Actually isa yan sa una namin nabiling surplus, yan yung naka post sa page 1 ata ng thread na to. Gusto nya sanang i-despose yan kasi kulang ata sa brightness, kaso nagmatch yung bagong luma nya na toy na technics phono sa phono stage ng ES .
Sir philander, 3 digital in pala . ::)
Hi, may new sighting ako Sansui alpha607 is this a good amp ? 6.5k ang asking price. nakita ko sa pier today. does it have digital outs ? Thanks !! :)
Hi, may new sighting ako Sansui alpha607 is this a good amp ? 6.5k ang asking price. nakita ko sa pier today. does it have digital outs ? Thanks !! :)
Akyat,
Uy you good the accuphase na pala?? pa audition naman sir.. hehehe
Kimpao,
Kala ko usap tayo hehehe mamaya ulit usap tayo about sa accuphase ni Sir Akyat hehehe
its a wierd thing so i'm not yet too ecstatic about the unit... on one hand, its a real "upper mid-end" amp that i got for a bargain, on the other hand there's a catch.
like this morning i played it as soon as i got up, and it played flawlessly that i left home kinda late at 10:30am already, it was that hard to leave... but just last night a couple of friends were asking to hear it, and... ayun sinumpong, like the talking donkey in shrek.
Sir philander, sorry nagkamali lang, tanong ko pala is kung may digital input ::)
Sir akyat, oo nga sobra mahal, sa tingin mo which is better the sansui alpha 607 or the denon pma-780d ?
Which would you buy ?Thanks !!! :)
Are you absolutely certain it's the speaker relay switches that are at fault? Why don't you have a good technician look at it first. You may have some loose grounding somewhere. Speaker relay switches are often very well built and robust especially in hi end gears. how old na ba are the amps? Is it the same for both channels? For both speakers A and B?
better have you amp on its own separate outlet.
"Goodbye akyatbundok. I already have a new home. New Speakers to drive. A new team mate receiver. Hope my new master won't overdrive me and won't connect a hard-to-drive speakers to me."
- SONY ES AMP.
Narayan,
Thanks.
- This Amp will be my dedicated Stereo Set-up
- Will power my 2 Surround Back.
- Will power my Outdoor setup during parties and every new year's eve.
better have your amp on its own separate outlet.
know what? i may be wrong about the speaker switch.. just this morning i was playing the amp and switched speaker A & B several times -- there was no problem at all.
it is during these times that i notice how good it sounds.. some complex tracks which sound "confused" and bright on other amps sound natural on this amp.
last night i played it for 4 hours continuously with no problems.. then i went out for a while, and when i came back, i turned on the amp, played a CD, and there it was again, that annoying static sound.. in the morning it was gone.
the previous owner said he hasn't experienced this static sound.. so i'm wondering if it's eating up so much current (power consumption: 830W) that i really need to put it in a separate outlet? its kinda sharing the same outlet as my 32" TV, DVD player and others.. but i thought it doesn't consume very much when i'm not playing loud.
First Impression sa Sony ES Amp.
IMHO, i found this amp neutral sounding connected to my MS 902 and having a VCD/CD Player as the source.
Haven't connected though to my MS 912.
And also this AMP does not get hot easily compared to my Kenwood Receiver on stereo use.
Better dynamics or should I say full-bodied ang sound compared to the 9060D on stereo.
I thought the clipping would be solved when I change AMP. Hindi pala. Still I am not comfortable to listen to high volume. Anyway, this SONY ES - MS 902 is set up in my room (3m x 3m). I hope harshness will be gone when I move the set up to the Sala next month.
Hi, sir akyat, may question lang ako, ilang watts na transformer ba ang kailangan para sa mga surplus amps, para safe ang operation niya. Minimum? ???
Thanks !!
when using a transformer, i prefer to use 100V rather than 110V... you'll never know how high a voltage spike could go... better if you use an AVR.
mga tsong,
kung meron akong 150W RMS na speaker, ano ba dapat ang wattage ng amp na match sa speakers ko based don sa mga binebenta sa pier? ano ba ang ibig sabihin ng mga wattage na naka display sa mga amp don sa pier, is it the power output or the power consumption?
mga tsong,I've recently learned that your amps should have 20% more power than the rated RMS of your speakers. Yung wattage at the back of the amps are usually the power consumption. USUALLY ha? not always. Yung rating kasi at the back of the amps are usually impedance lang. TC. :)
kung meron akong 150W RMS na speaker, ano ba dapat ang wattage ng amp na match sa speakers ko based don sa mga binebenta sa pier? ano ba ang ibig sabihin ng mga wattage na naka display sa mga amp don sa pier, is it the power output or the power consumption?
power consumption ...I'm not saying you're wrong bro, ha? Kasi I had a technician friend that even said you just divide the power consumption by 2 and that's it. But amplifiers have efficiency ratings din e, so amps that have higher efficiency ratings convert the power consumption to actual amplification power more efficiently and therefore have higher power to drive speakers. Mahirap kasi malaman ang power output ng amp pag walang manual e. And manufacturers will never give out efficiency ratings ng amps nila. So pag surplus, all you can do is audition.
"guestimate" is divided by 3.5 to get RMS per channel
so if the spec at the back says 180 watts more or less its 60 W/ch...then again...this is guestimate ...
Sir akyat, do you have any links for a Yamaha AX 1200 integrated amp? can't seem to find anything, puro DSP ax-1200 ang lumalabas. :( :) Thanks !!
anyone by chance selling a yamaha mx-1 ???
hehe you should see the successor to the mx-1..its a digital amp worth $5000 :o
not yet, but they say its a clean sounding amp, i'm lookin for an ss counterpart to my tube monoblocks which are clean sounding as well (btw they cost almost the same as ure mx-1). best of both worlds i guess since the mx-d1 (mx-1s successor) is very expensive :-\
plus the form factor is attractive since its not as bulky as other amps.
i see, gusto mo madinig? you can come to my place and hear it (and see what you're missing he he).
seriously, i am cool if you want to hear it.
sir bridgebolt, wala pa ako nakikita turntable sa pier, try mo sa wiredstate. dun meron for sure. :)
45mm, these are the onkyo & yamaha models i would be interested in:
Onkyo Integra A-817XX, A-819RS, A-820GT
Most integras at the pier are in this category. They basically have the same 205W - 210W power consumption so their output power is probably 100wpc and above. The 820GT is rated 110W/ch. Model numbers that i've seen are 817 and 819. The last 2 letters indicate the year of manufacture, where "XX" are the latest models (1987). . . .
RE: "kaffee1, i think marantz pm-54ds is an entry level integrated amp late 80's model..."
To my knowledge, an Onkyo affixed with the Integra name is not entry level.
hi, my contact sa pier said, marami daw new stock ng amps arrived last sunday. but sa cubao store nila didisplay. i'm going tomorrow. sana wala maganda para di makagastos. ;D O0
mga sir, san ba sa pier makakabili ng surplus amp preferably sansui amps? i have a 4 way sansui speaker na medyo matagal ko ng di ginagamit and sayang naman kung ididispose ko siya. i think 12inch iyung woofer niya and may crossover adjustment siya....ang model niya is SP-Z6...di ko rin makita sa mga site iyung specs nito...thanks...
sir enygma, maganda pa ang quality ng sounds ng sansui speakers mo? meron kasi akong sansui stereo receiver model R-30.
di ko pa namamaximize iyung sansui speaker na ito. at the moment ay di ko na siya ginagamit. nakadisplay lang dito sa bahay. in good condition pa siya. anong gamit mong speaker sa sansui receiver mo?
hi, malapit sa isetann. almost same prices din, tawad ka na lang. :)
mga sir, san ba sa pier makakabili ng surplus amp preferably sansui amps? i have a 4 way sansui speaker na medyo matagal ko ng di ginagamit and sayang naman kung ididispose ko siya. i think 12inch iyung woofer niya and may crossover adjustment siya....ang model niya is SP-Z6...di ko rin makita sa mga site iyung specs nito...thanks...
i eventually swapped it with a sansui alpha 907 last year.
What's the better deal ba, yung mga widescreen or the regular 4:3 tv? Kasi nung nakita ko, most of the widescreens are in jap :(
Thanks!
:o alpha 907 !! oops gotta wipe the drool off my keyboard :P ;D ;D
sir, saan mo nakita yung sansui alpha 907 ??
dito sa pier sa manila di pa ko nakakakita kahit once ng alpha-907, siguro mabilis masyado makuha...
matanong lang, nakakuha ako ng surplus amp na toshiba, its a "digital suround" amp, dolby surround lang..."4.1" channels
i would like to know kung san makakahanap ng spec nito, search ako sa google pero ala ako makita na specs e...may isang site, japanese,tapos pic lang nakalagay.. the amp is a toshiba XB-V90. with dsp, AVR ito, 2 channel audio input, 4.1 powered channel out, may pang front, surround and sub, kaya ko binili ito dahil sa may provisions pang passive sub...eh may mga extrang sub and box ako dito na d ko na gamit (pang car audio) so ginamit ko.. lakas din...
Seems googling the model just returns two jap sites. Try the Toshiba website and check the various regions if they have AVRs. Then see if they have product archives for old models.
thanks
i went to cubao last tuesday, to just simple kill time around a/v surplus shops in the isetan area and i went home with a LUXMAN L-430.Rather unfair to compare your luxman to a yamaha. Like comparing heaven and hell. ;D No offense meant to yamaha users.
roaming around the a/v surplus shops of pier and cubao have become a new found hobby ever since i started reading this topic, and i even got a list of the most sought afters (hehehe, bagong competition ako sir akyat ang all others).
i bought the L430 primarily on account of sir akyats recommendation,"u cant go wrong with a luxman", and on the fact that on its back an indication is made that it can handle 4 ohms to 8 ohms, on speaker A or B and 4 to 18 ohms for both speaker A and B.
initial impression (after 3days or 9 hours of listening time) of the amp: improve bass, better seperations of instruments, and a WOW! for voice, it is as if the singer is with me, live!
it is driving a pair of hard to drive celestion 3000 speakers, with a 100 watts @ 4ohms power requirement. previous to this, i drive them speakers with a yamaha avr, and the sonic difference is very much obvious, specially on the instrumentations. laki ng ginanda ng goya ko from a very untamed acoustic guitar leads to a tamed yet realistic sounding performance.
what can my fellow surplus fanaticas comment on this amp? O0 O0
thanx in advance.
hi, recent sighting !
Onkyo M-506 power amp 6k neg.
any views on this one ?? :) Sir akyat? ;D ;D
Rather unfair to compare your luxman to a yamaha. Like comparing heaven and hell. ;D No offense meant to yamaha users.
Rather unfair to compare your luxman to a yamaha. Like comparing heaven and hell. ;D No offense meant to yamaha users.
The luxman is a respeted US brand that has been in the mainstream of hi-fi audiophilia ever since. I fellow audiophile once said, just touching the front fascia is enough to bring him to fits of ecstacy. ;D I was drooling at these brutes at the Audiophile shop in Goldcrest before. Even their casette tape decks had a built and look that was difficult to dismiss, apart from the nakamichi.
Congrats with your purchase. How I wish those surplus shops were nearer to my place. sighhhhh
Hello wanderlust,
Im also a luxman fan, I own a int. amp L510 x. If you want info on vintage luxman, pls visit yahoo group forum on luxman.
hi, recent sighting !
Onkyo M-506 power amp 6k neg.
any views on this one ?? :) Sir akyat? ;D ;D
:'( :'(hi, went back today to buy the Onkyo m-506, may nauna na sa akin. :'( :'(
Sino kaya dito yun ? hehehe!
but ok lang at least na save ako from gastos na naman. ;D ;D
maybe next time. ;D ;D
Thanks to your post seacrmnd, I bought the Sansui AU-D907X. Testing it now, so far its ok pa naman. Noticed that its much much powerful than my HK3550, the bass is a lot more heavier, with more impact, but then again, yung highs is parang HK, medyo subdued. Sayang, di sya alpha series, but this series i think is the 3rd generation of the 907. Any ideas if this is correct? If this series brought the downfall of sansui? :P
Thanks to your post seacrmnd, I bought the Sansui AU-D907X. Testing it now, so far its ok pa naman. Noticed that its much much powerful than my HK3550, the bass is a lot more heavier, with more impact, but then again, yung highs is parang HK, medyo subdued. Sayang, di sya alpha series, but this series i think is the 3rd generation of the 907. Any ideas if this is correct? If this series brought the downfall of sansui? :P
If this series brought the downfall of sansui? :P
I remembered someone in this forum stated that "you can't go wrong with a Luxman".
hmmm.... next sat i gotta postpone the push-pull shootout pupunta pala ako ng laguna. :-\
sked natin bro after ng push-pull session..... alin nga ba ang available pang session?
eto sa akin:
- sansui au-alpha707
- onkyo integra a-819rs
- luxman lv-105
Roger
can u list down all Amp which is in high end model para magka idea lang kami ;D ;D tetemp akong bilhin isa sa mga itoONKYO integra -917 at sa MARANTZ PM_74 and PM-80 mukhang yumyum din e ano ba ang marerecomend mo d2 sa tatlo.
Onkyo Integra P306XR/M306XR combo @ 9K.
Baka may maliligaw sa inyo dito sa Davao. A friend who deals on Jap surplus is selling a Nakamichi TA4 high-current made by Threshold (Stasis topology) @ 7K and an Onkyo Integra P306XR/M306XR combo @ 9K. Makinis pa, walang galos sa harap. Gusto ko nang bilhin pareho, kaya lang lima na ang amps ko. Ayoko nang ma-gulpi ni kumander!
Wow!!!, bakit wala niyan sa pier? That Onkyo set is a steal if you asked me.
I don't know about those Japanese auction houses, but my informat tells me that those "surplus" appliances are actually hauled off en masse from junkyards in Tokyo and elsewhere. The haulers are actaully PAID to take them out. So the only capital here are the freight charges and maybe some customs duties, if at all. And luckily for us, those entrepreneurs know very little, if nothing, of the merchanidise they are disposing. Those that do are the local bidders who make some tidy profits refurshing them and selling them at the Port Area Shopping Mall and elsewhere.
But then, how come many of these equipment arrive in good condition?
pre ito ang reference ko ng japanese integrated amps:
list #1 (http://www.niji.or.jp/home/k-nisi/premain.htm)
list #2 (http://www.niji.or.jp/home/k-nisi/premain2.htm)
list #3 (http://www.niji.or.jp/home/k-nisi/premain3.html)
patience lang pre, sooner or later may maliligaw din... pag ginamit mo agad yung 4k/5k mo wala ka na pambili kung may lumabas na high-end.
yung onkyo 917 mas bago pero parehas lang sa specs ng mas luma na 817 at 819... kung marantz hintayin mo na lang yung PM-94 iba yata kasi ang design nung lower models eh... narinig ko na rin yung PM-80, parang ok naman hindi lang sya standout, compare namin sa hafler DH-220 mas maganda ang hafler...
naka-B4 ka pre bagay dyan sansui alpha907 pero unahan kita hehehe ;D
Mga bossing, I am a neophyte when it comes to surplus amps... But I got so interested upon reading all your posts...
Please bear with me with these questions:
1. How does these surplus amps sounds compared with the mini-compo available in the market today, like sony, jvc and phillips?
2. If I will opt to buy one surplus amps can I use the speakers of my components coz I have currenly four of them right now?
3. Speaking of sound quality which is better sounding, the Branded surplus speakers which is more or less using the technology of the 80's or itong mga bagong speakers ngayon na di naman masyadong high-end pero using the latest technology?
Yung lang po at maraming salamat....
pre ok na ba yong Victor AX-Z911 sa 5K?
marami ako nakita niyan sa pier 4k lang... ;D
in case susubukan mo 'pre, try mo i-test yung digital inputs kung gumagana pa... yun ang main feature niya.
ahhh hehehe.... na-curious din ako sa modelo na 'to kasi nasa website siya kasama ang mga high-end amps.Oh! ayan ka nanaman! :o 4k isang pares na ng telefunken 12ax7 yun ah ::) may sukli ka pa pang meryenda sa jollibug. ;D ;D ;D ;D
main selling point is the built-in 16-bit DAC... it shortens the analog signal path to about 0.5m... they also claim to do some high-speed switching at the DAC level to mimic a Class A amp (?) at 120wpc 6ohms.
the higher model AX-Z921 seems to have a better DAC (18-bit).... but i'm most curious about the "K2 Interface" mark at the front panel.... it's the same technology JVC uses to manufacture XRCD's.... i don't know what the K2 interface does, but in the 90's Victor released a CD player/DAC combo (XL-Z1000A/XP-DA1000A) that has a K2 interface and it cost 1.4million yen.
Oh! ayan ka nanaman! :o 4k isang pares na ng telefunken 12ax7 yun ah ::) may sukli ka pa pang meryenda sa jollibug. ;D ;D ;D ;D
J_albert,
;D ;D ;D high blood ka?? >:D
di ako highblood hehehe nagpapaliwanag lang
Guys, any info on the following surplus amps:
Onkyo integra A815RX II
Sansui AU-9500DSP
Sansui AU-V7000
Victor AX 900
Yamaha AUX 1000 III
Victor AX-Z921 and sansui AU-D607F extra and Marantz PM-74 D. What will you choose if you were me ;) Hope you can give a try. thanks again.
BTW ill be using it to power an audience 42.
Sansui AU-9500DSP
You got me confused with this AU-9500DSP (?). I think what you saw was a metallic-champagne AV-9500DSP.
BTW ill be using it to power an audience 42.
Sir akyat, guys,
Mawalang galang na po sa inyo, tanong ko lang kung ok lang ba bumili ng surplus na cd player? It seems that surplus amps are very welcomed, how about surplus cd players?
I have a Pioneer PD-204 that needs repair, hindi umiikot yun cd pag nag-play. Should I have it repaired or should I just hunt for a surplus cd player? Kakainis, di ako makapag desisyon!
Help
JojoD
Sir AV_Phile1 salamat po sa reply...
After reading the posts about the surplus amps you guys got me interested ;D ... Kaya lang it seems I dont have lot of choices in here kasi when I made rounds with the different surplus stores here in Iligan City, Mindanao... Wala akong nakita na worthy of a second look... Gas-gas na lahat naka display at parang medyo malayo duon sa mga iponopost niyo dito..
May nakita po ako in one of the pawnshops here na naka-auction na "Luxman Surround Amplifier for 3.5K di ko pa na audition but just in case is this a good buy?
Just saw a Sony 555ESX-II and Sansiu D-907 Limited Amps at the pier for those interested :)
bro, i suggest you get it asap before some one elses does. i have been monitoring luxman through an international group forum, luxman manufactures top of the line receivers, and ahead of its time if i may say so. and at that price its a steal! but do test it comprehensively though. 8)
whats the model # if i may ask? is it an r-117? O0
re: Luxman
just to give you an idea...I changed my brandnew 20k plus NADC350 amp to a pier-purchased Luxman SS amp...am very happy with luxman brands..in fact I got two already :)...your personal choice parin bro...just my two cents :)
happy hunting!
Tama ka padre Wndrlust, kahit umulan sugod parin. Was hoping to see the ALPHA, pero dehins parin, not that fortunate yet. Inuunahan ko lang si padreng akyat :) Was tempted to get the sony, asked akyat about it. As suggested by akyat, get the sony if you have bright sounding speakers or cd players. I wont appreciate it since medyo warm sounding speakers ko :)
try nyo kaya sa likod ng farmers market a cubao. there's this medium size shop that mainly sells surplus amps. i've seen several sansui, marantz, onkyo, luxman, sony amps in there recently. :D
one thing i've noticed is that malinis karamihan nung binebenta nila.
pre, dun lang ito sa may pagbabamo ng MRT Cubao station (Farmers Plaza side). May mga shops dun sa side sidestreet nung wet market
wanderlust,
nasa doctor pa ba amp mo?? kailan ba surplus shootout.. intriga ako..
hi,
Oo nga kelan ba yung surplus amp shootout natin ? for sure di na tuloy this week nasa shop pala yung dalawang amps.
Sir akyat, next week kaya ? ;D
Sir dohbert, wanderlust, may pinalitan na parts ba sa mga amp niyo ?
Baka may makuha ako isa pang amp, nandun rin sa niji list. heavyweight !!!HEHEHE!!! >:D >:D
uy surplus shootout! baka pwedeng sumama dyan! kelan yan? Hmmmmm ::) ::) pwede kaya isali yung surplus kong 30 watt amp. >:D >:D surplus din naman yun, ah, ibang klase nga lang :-\ :-\ :-\ Ahihihihihihi ;D ;D ;D ;D
yes there are, specifically yong mga busted lights, i dont know about the other parts kung needed ba, nga pala i had the speaker terminal replaced to that which can accomodate banana plugs.
Yung denon ko kasi parang ang sakit sa tenga ngayon ,yung highs sobra, or maybe yun talaga characteristic ng amp na yun or sa tenga ko lang yun. baka malagay na sa assorted buy and sell . pambili ng bago, ;D ;D
Mga bossing,
Tanong ko lang kung may mga lower wattage (50 wpc or less) na integrated amp sa pier. Will use it for my bass shaker. Any idea on the price?
Thank you po. :)
i am a proud owner of a surplus luxman as well. i love it so much that after a week of use (d pa sawa!) i sent it to an amp doctor! this to ensure a longer if not lifelong companionship with my luxman. and mind you, the hard part is that i havent had fully enjoyed it when i sent it away, now, i miss it so...
bro, i saw a wornout Luxman LV103 (hybrid amp) selling for 3.5k..its pretty battered..the seller said that it survived a fire from the ships engine compartment...hehe..dunno kung buhay pa yung tunog :)
naku mukhang it have seen "bitter" days na tlga ah. and considreing it has tubes inside, being tru hell wouldnt be good for its soul. havent to tried it? at 3.5 i dont think it is still a better deal, unless of course you were able to thouroughly check it but still i am not that confident, being a surplus is one thing but surviving a fire is another. and consider this, i was able to get my lux for 3.7k only.
naku mukhang it have seen "bitter" days na tlga ah. and considreing it has tubes inside, being tru hell wouldnt be good for its soul. havent to tried it? at 3.5 i dont think it is still a better deal, unless of course you were able to thouroughly check it but still i am not that confident, being a surplus is one thing but surviving a fire is another. and consider this, i was able to get my lux for 3.7k only.
wanderlust,
its in pretty bad shape..didnt test it na since I didnt like how it appers..parang wala nang X-factor O0
cnabi mo sir! sometimes its not the performance that alone counts, its the X also.
btw, sir nirv is selling a good looking luxman for 5.5k, at the the buy and sell section.
i think the AU-D907X is worth a second look/audition even at P7.5K. it was supposed to be the best amp (AU-D907X-Decade) in the D-line immediately before the Alpha- series was introduced. rated at 160wpc RMS @ 8 ohms (250wpc @ 4 ohms), the only difference is that the first Alpha 907 used toroidal transformer and had XLR balanced power amp jacks for optional professional use. if you're a rocker who wants to match your neighbor's Krell decibel-for-decibel, this could be an inexpensive option for a face-off with Dan D'Agostino's toys. BTW, with a maximum power consumption of just over 400 watts, the retailer got that at less than P5K, so he'll likely sell it at P6K.
Been to the pier before to look for surplus tvs and the only place I know is the place infront of the Phil Star ba yun? Pls enlighten me, bro. ;D
seacrmnd, hi, send you a pm.
thank you.
I finally got the Sansui AU-D907X
been to pier at lunch time to buy sana a CD player. Went home with Technics SL-P555 cd player plus I came home with two high power amps. Both rated at 370W, got both for Php 11.5K and the CD player for Php 2K. I finally got the Sansui AU-D907X and also got Kenwood KA-1100SD. ;D I'll try them later against the Sony 333ESX II and Alpine/Luxman LV-117.
congratulations. what's nice with getting high-power amps, especially if they sound good, is probably you won't be spending anymore on low-power gears, except for valve amps. also, high power amps have high marketability, thus resale value could even exceed your acquisition cost. i'm not sure about this but the Kenwood L03a was a limited edition power amp while the unit you chose, KA-1100SD was newer but didn't rate well in the reviews. i could be wrong though. the bottom line - hindi ka lugi.
Seacrmnd, ikaw pala pumakyaw, dumaan kami nina ni wndrlust, he's looking for a cd player himself, we asked about the sansui, salesman said, naunahan na kayo sir :P congrats padre sa amps mo.thanks sir... naka-reserve na kasi yun... musta na sir 907X mo?
thanks sir... :)
ganun ba sir, kaya pala wala ako masyado makita sa net regarding this amp. actually sir I'm looking for the L-02a kaya I opted not to get it at this time. If I can remember it right from 01-08 yata yung series nito but yung 01 & 02 lang yata yung nagtagal/natira or maganda ang reviews. I saw the specs of the KA-1100SD from this URL http://www.niji.or.jp/home/k-nisi/ka-1100.htm or this one
http://world.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=ja_en&url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.niji.or.jp%2fhome%2fk-nisi%2fpremain2.htm
i guess i was wrong. in any case, wala kang talo diyan. konting alaga lang, kikita ka pa diyan sa mga nabili mo.
the L-series is probably kenwood's best product line esp. the half-million yen L-02A which i'm quietly waiting to appear.... is the 03A still there? how much daw? thanks!me too! I'm waiting for the L-02a, kala ko nga yun na eh.
mukha na tuloy surplus shop bahay ko >:D
pero happy naman... ^-^ ^-^ ^-^
Saw that same sony amp mga 2 weeks ago, was about to get it when I noticed that some parts were already repaired. I had the unit opened, it has 2 transformers kaya ang bigat, pero sa gilid may sticker ng repairman, dated 6-1-04. Sabi ng tindero all orig, eh nakita ko yung sticker, sabi ko akala ko ba all orig eh nanduon yung sticker ng repairman, so kinausap ko yung nag repair, sabi pinalitan lang yung resistors. :Iis this bad?
id go between the luxman and sansui anytime sir.
thanks for the info sandawa! ;D
i have friends here in davao who are into trading surplus consumer electronics and they have told me their secret. for amps, look at the power consumption at the back. Japanese shippers ask for P10 per watt now, so a 300-watt power consumption rating at the back means the unit was bought at roughly P3,000. the add-on amount, varies from brand to brand and external/internal appearance. a repaired unit would be priced higher since additional amount was spent on it. in the past, before demand rose there in Manila, the asking price per watt was only P5. so, start haggling at say P12/watt and go up to P20/watt if the unit is something you fancied. it's guaranteed they'll already have decent profit at P15/watt. of course, this is a supply-demand game thus my info may not apply at all when the deals become "fast and furious."
that's exactly my Alpha 907 but mine is without the "i mos Limited." note the XLRs and speaker terminals that accommodate the heaviest and biggest bananas.
sir akyat, anyone ?
tanong ko lang, i noticed na merong times na pag on ko ng yamaha amp ko, when the music starts playing parang may scratchy sound coming from one side then kanina i tried it again ok at first tapos ganun na naman. then altoghether nawala yung isang channel, rest for a few minutes then ok na naman. sa left channel lang, at first akala ko yung onkyo surplus speakers, so i switched to my wharf 8.3, ok at first but this morning nangyari yung above. sa onkyo yung tweeter ang nawala but sa wharf pareho nawala. :'(
:'( :'( Help !!! :'( :'(
parang ganyan ang sakit ng accuphase amp ko..... mahinang scratching sound lumilipat ng kaliwa kanan, minsan nawawala ang tunog sa isang channel...... mahirap hulihin ang problema, like recently i've been using the accuphase for 4 days straight without problems since the CDP shootout and kagabi ko lang ulit narinig yung kamot..... pero sandali lang nawala din ulit.
try mo painitin muna ng 5minutes yung amp before playing anything..... it seems to minimize the problem.... i suspect its in the power-on relays, bcoz one time when i turned it and while waiting for it to warm up, i heard the relay click more than once, and then it kept clicking in 10sec intervals until i started playing the amp.
or baka madumi lang mga contact points ng amp mo.
pasintabi po...
post ko lang kung meron interested. just saw these from pier.
Onkyo 819RX
Onkyo 817XG
Onkyo 817RX II
Onkyo 917R
Denon PMA-690
Marantz PM-54DS
Sony 222ESR
Sony 303ESD
Sony 333ESG
Sansui AU-D607X Decade
Sansui AU-D907 Limited, still available
Got a Sony CDP-333ESD instead of
Denon DCD-1300 CD Player (still available). Good decision? ::)
according to them more are coming this month.
regards...
pasintabi po...
post ko lang kung meron interested. just saw these from pier.
Onkyo 819RX
Onkyo 817XG
Onkyo 817RX II
Onkyo 917R
Denon PMA-690
Marantz PM-54DS
Sony 222ESR
Sony 303ESD
Sony 333ESG
Sansui AU-D607X Decade
Sansui AU-D907 Limited, still available
Got a Sony CDP-333ESD instead of
Denon DCD-1300 CD Player (still available). Good decision? ::)
according to them more are coming this month.
regards...
edboy7,honga noh :)...thanks akyat ;D
notice the curly alpha sign before the number 907..... the one sighted in pier has a "D" instead of the alpha.... those are very different models.
salamat sir punk_kid. akala ko kasi tsambahan din ang pagpili ng maayos na Amp. ;D
ang problema, you have competition from the pier and from the forum. maybe you should begin exploring an orderly marketing arrangement. otherwise, your re-sale prices would suffer. bad for forum members, good for outsiders.How do we go about this?
You guys seem to be developing a series of love affairs with amp hardware. One after the other. ;D
sir sandawa you have pm.
Just been to a Japanese warehouse/junkyard here in Davao and found out radical changes in their prices to retailers for "as is" AV units. Here it goes:
1. Amps: black - P12.50/watt maximum of P4,000; silver - P10/watt maximum of P3,000 per unit
2. CD Players: big - P500 to P600; medium - P350 to P400
3. Tape decks: big - P1,000-1,100; medium - P800 to P900
4. TV: 28 to 31 inches - P2,500 to P2,800; 32 to 34 inches - P2,900 to P3,500 (obviously the high figures here apply to widescreen units)
......
If I only have enough time, I'll open a channel so I could send units to you based on these prices. If you guys could incorporate an audio club or a formal group with dedicated one or two staff, maybe we can explore a "cooperative" type trading channel for the benefit of members and give those pier retailers competition. Also you could organize weeked auditions for new gears from high-end dealers there, get hefty discounts too, through such audio club.
You guys seem to be developing a series of love affairs with amp hardware. One after the other. ;D
Speaking of Wynns, ang natatandaan ko lang is yung cd rental nila. Puro rental lang ako tapos dub to tape. Duon narin ako nakabili ng cd player and amp ko dati. :)
Far be it for me or anyone to stop you from doing what gives you fun, I just hope you don't get sidetracked from the real goal of the Hi-Fi playback pursuit and the philosphy behind it. It's the RECORDING we want to listen to. Not the player, amp, speaker or the room. ;D
. . . .
Ofcourse those gears allow you to listen to the recording. The more transparent, accurate and neutral the gears, the better to reveal what the recording has, for good or for worse. But they are the MEANS, not the end.
. . . .
http://www55.tok2.com/home/ja1mdn/index.htm
Take a look at the way the Japanese are hot-rodding their amps. Tons of pictures of the innards of various amps.
Speaking of Wynns, ang natatandaan ko lang is yung cd rental nila. Puro rental lang ako tapos dub to tape. Duon narin ako nakabili ng cd player and amp ko dati. :)
Akyat,
What do you do to contain your SARS?"...... hmmm don't get near Kimpao.. heheheh
fish fish. ;D ;D
given na yan pre, kayong dalawa ni kimpao ang carrier ng SARS virus sa lunch box ng chorizo hehehehe.
At hawahan nanaman ng SARS sa sabado...
shootout ba sa saturday?
san naman kaya to gaganapin? sa akyat's top ba ;D
onga no, sabado na pala ang scheduled push-pull shootout..... kaso ready na kaya ang protagonists? nagpalit bigla ng amp yung isang contender sa shootout, mukhang di papatalo at kukuha ng lalong matinding manok!
sa surplus amp shootout naman, medyo nasa tweaking stage din yung dalawang contenders, problem lang yun amp doctor namin matagal yata ang response ngayon kaya tuloy hindi pa ready.
Dyan pumapasok ang crimp-on pins, usually bended shape, available from Monster Cable or even Quantum and other brands. Same quality (ang problema sa MC malambot ang gold niya kaya madaling mabali) mas maliit sa bananas, pero gold-plated pa rin at mas mura - about half the price of solid bananas. Actually, mas flexible ang crimp-ons compared with bananas and spades dahil puwede rin siya sa spring-type terminals.
dapat may butas sa tabi yung banana plugs mo. all solid gold-plated banana plugs have a hole on the side for crimp-ons or directly, for the bare wire. there are new small bananas made in China and Japan na may butas din pero yung mga locally made na mura (yung kailangan ka pang mag-solder), walang butas yan, so hindi puwede ang crimp-ons.
sir akyat,
sama ko sa surplus shootout ;D ;D
sana matuloy na. ;D ;D
sir wanderlust, ok na ba yung sa yo.? :)
sir wanderlust, gusto ko sana kuha ng tono preamp kaya lang wala budget. ;D ;D >:D
kelan ba yung push pull shootout?
for those who have bought a couple of surplus amps already, i would recommend that the next step be to buy a good preamp, preferably WS tono. after some disappointments, i finally got my first tono last wednesday from s2kov who shipped it to davao without hassle (fund transfer online was also instantaneous).
i separated the pre and power sections of my Alpha 907 and Accuphase, hooked it, did the A/B same-volume tests, "no epek" on sounds for both equipment! i prefer the built- in preamps of Alpaha and Accuphase which were a bit robust on the middle and a tad cleaner on the lows. but when tono was linked to my surplus amps, Yamaha CA-1000III and Kenwood KR-7400, and on the Sansui 907F (by loop dahil walang amp in), hanep ang lumabas. parang yung MF-A120 ko, in terms of clarity, na na-doble or triple ang power. pati mga lumang speakers ko naging pogi.
If I only have enough time, I'll open a channel so I could send units to you based on these prices. If you guys could incorporate an audio club or a formal group with dedicated one or two staff, maybe we can explore a "cooperative" type trading channel for the benefit of members and give those pier retailers competition. Also you could organize weeked auditions for new gears from high-end dealers there, get hefty discounts too, through such audio club.
for those who have bought a couple of surplus amps already, i would recommend that the next step be to buy a good preamp, preferably WS tono. after some disappointments, i finally got my first tono last wednesday from s2kov who shipped it to davao without hassle (fund transfer online was also instantaneous).
i separated the pre and power sections of my Alpha 907 and Accuphase, hooked it, did the A/B same-volume tests, "no epek" on sounds for both equipment! i prefer the built- in preamps of Alpaha and Accuphase which were a bit robust on the middle and a tad cleaner on the lows. but when tono was linked to my surplus amps, Yamaha CA-1000III and Kenwood KR-7400, and on the Sansui 907F (by loop dahil walang amp in), hanep ang lumabas. parang yung MF-A120 ko, in terms of clarity, na na-doble or triple ang power. pati mga lumang speakers ko naging pogi.
good idea, sandawa... i could organize a cooperative with juridical personality in accordance with the Cooperative Code of the Philippines... that is if you guys would want to formaly organize an audio club with at least 15 memberships. magandang idea to, we can even solicit funds and contributions from foreign sources.
;D
He he. I have been enjoying very good music with my luxman integrated and ws tono. Ang ganda ng combination. Sound is really full, buong buo and ang kalansing parang totoo. Sorry guys, I cant used audiophile terms, mahina tayo dyan, but I like the sound of the combination. I tried WS tono also with NAD C320 bee, ang galing din. Im using hard to drive speakers , audience 42 and spendor S3/5. Maybe if I add a subwoofer, mas gaganda pa.
good idea, sandawa... i could organize a cooperative with juridical personality in accordance with the Cooperative Code of the Philippines... that is if you guys would want to formaly organize an audio club with at least 15 memberships.
;D
Hi wanderlust,
Ive been waiting for the PM coz I want to change the speaker terminals. Hope you can Pm again. Ganda talaga combination especially if your luxman has "main in" for the tono, tapos maganda CD player, he he, Im only using sony 337ESD CDP.
atty. audioslave...matindi ka talaga...good idea!...tamang tama, ako ang barter-trader dahil ako ang madalas magbiyahe, hehe!...so if ever we push thru with this, how do we go about it??? maganda yan kasi may excuse na tayo to audition gars, kasi cooperative na eh...hehehe! 8)
sent you pm sir, regarding this matter.
That's because the tono preamp already has sufficient gain in the output stages. If I recall right from the wiredstate site, it has a gain of 12, making a 1volt input come out 12 volts at full volume to drive a low powered speaker by itself. Line level input expects at the most a 2v input. Some are 1.2V to drive the amp at full rated power. You are effectively overdriving the integrated's line level input if you didn't use their main-in jacks. Using the TONO at the line level stage, you have an apparent doubling of power because your integrateds become loud even in the 8 or 9 0'clock volume position. And anything louder is always perceived as something better. But don't let this prevent you from enjoying your new toy. ;D
audioslave...matindi ka talaga...good idea!...tamang tama, ako ang barter-trader dahil ako ang madalas magbiyahe, hehe!...so if ever we push thru with this, how do we go about it??? maganda yan kasi may excuse na tayo to audition gars, kasi cooperative na eh...hehehe! 8)
upuan natin to minsan and think it out whether we'll put up a consumer cooperative or a credit union coop or multi-purpose coop. it will all depend on our primary objectives as audio enthusiasts.
;D
sir wanderlust ,
congrats sa tono pre amp !!! ;D
kinuha mo ba yung kay sir kimpao ? :'( :'( ;D
happy face na yan si wanderlust. ;)
may bagong luma syang toy ;D
pahiram naman jan :D
sir dohbert,
ok na si sir wanderlust na lang antay natin. ;D ;D
dont worry sir tututukan ko to! para laban na!!!!! ahehehehe.
oy, my feedback ako from sir tony aka joan2, kinumusta ko kasi amp ko e, baka nga this weekend nasa mga kamay ko na sya ;D. kung gusto daw natin sa bahay nya na i-held yong surplus amp shoot-out, para kahit palakasan na ang laban e walang palalayasin latter on na tenant (sir akyat, para syo to, :-* hehehe). tsaka, what about that we include sa shoot-out a pre-amp compatibilty test, gawin nating reference yong tono. hehehe. tutal halos lahat naman tyo d2 e my balak o meron ng tono pre-amp. k ba mag sir? O0
aba salamaz ng marami wanderlust, tamang-tama at hindi pala tayo pwede sa bundok kinabukasan dahil pupunta ako bukas sa bahay ng parents ko sa QC... kelangan magpakita eh, wanted ako dun... kasya ba tayo sa sala ni sir tony? pwede ako humabol dyan sa hapon.
sir tnx,
malabo pala pag na resize. :)
i saw a couple of mins ago a diatone amp, forgt the model # though. like its appearance, any comment on diatone amps in general?
hi, ako dala ko lahat ;D
1. Yamaha AX 1200
2. Denon Pma 780d
3. HK 6100
4. HK PM 645 vxi
para ma test lahat and benta ko na yung iba. ;D
This week na ba ? Saan ? sino magdala ng speakers o meron na ? ???
Dala din kayo tono pre amp para masubukan ! Hehehe !! >:D
Wanderlust,
Saan sa Pasig shop ni Tony? Thanks!
good point AV. but it in my case, as i mentioned, the comparisons were at same-volume levels, by adjusting the variable and fixed outputs of the CDP. that's the beauty of CDPs with two or three sets of analog outputs. that should eliminate gains' deception, as you warned, no overdriving. clarity, in reference to my Musical Fidelity amp, was not present on my other Jap surplus amps while the doubling and tripling of power, as perceived, is due to the fact that my MF only has 40wpc while the Jap integrated amps i'm coupling with tono have over 100wpc rating.
I just bought a surplus stereo amp (from a fellow pdvd member) and am currently using this with a Philips 727k DVD player na may built-in DD/DTS decoder. While the set up gives good audio/stereo performance, i would also like to enjoy DD/DTS sound while watching home video.
The 727k has a 5.1 DD/DTS output. I'm planning to connect the center output of the player to the TV, the front L & R output to the present surplus stereo amp and i'm planning to buy a second surplus amp (i prefer a pro-logic amp) for the surround L & R channel (hopefully this will give a left, center & right surround sound). The LFE (.1) to my active subwoofer. I wanted to enjoy both worlds (the pure audio and the home theatre), do you think this idea of mine is worth pursuing.
Magkano kaya sa pier ang surplus na prologic amp.
ang balita ko from andrew sevilla of phasetron is that sansui used to be a manufacturer of power supplies, kaya yun ang specialty nila at nag carry over sa amplifier products ang expertise nila dun.....
Good AM mga guys
I have just hooked up my surplus Pioneer A400X (from pier) with my Chario Speaker and it seems that it match with this speaker, a well balance sound stage for me compare when I'm using my Onkyo TX SR600 but it need some time to warm up about 30 minutes then okay na. For more improvement balak kong palitan yung power cord niya and also need to buy new speaker cable since yung kanyang binding post terminal don'accept the banana type.
BTW my set up is here in Macau China, pinadala lang ng brother ko itong amplifier dito sometime in Jan 2004 but the unit was used with Wharfedale Crystal 10. According to him this amplifier produced the purest sound since don't have treble and bass control.
(http://sc.groups.msn.com/tn/FE/61/PinoyDVD/78/895.jpg)
Pioneer A400X
Production date 1985 to 1990
Accuphase's power caps, however, are really big - three times those of Sansui's although my Alpha 907 has four, dalawa lang ang Accuphase. Sabi ko nga kay Sir Akyat sa PM, yung sa Accuphase parang specialized audio but industrial grade - mukhang mahirap maghanap dito sa Pinas para ma-repair ang unit niya. Biro lang, Sir!
I have just hooked up my surplus Pioneer A400X (from pier) with my Chario Speaker and it seems that it match with this speaker, a well balance sound stage for me compare when I'm using my Onkyo TX SR600 but it need some time to warm up about 30 minutes then okay na. For more improvement balak kong palitan yung power cord niya and also need to buy new speaker cable since yung kanyang binding post terminal don'accept the banana type.
BTW my set up is here in Macau China, pinadala lang ng brother ko itong amplifier dito sometime in Jan 2004 but the unit was used with Wharfedale Crystal 10. According to him this amplifier produced the purest sound since don't have treble and bass control.
(http://sc.groups.msn.com/tn/FE/61/PinoyDVD/78/895.jpg)
Pioneer A400X
Production date 1985 to 1990
OK yang proposal mo iceman...
pero dapat sa output watt ng amp ang bracketing o pairing sa shoot out.
i would gladly bring my NAD C352 @ 80wpc if you guys can find an int-amp with the same wattage. kahit older model ang amp if it can produce a higher output power mas lamang pa rin yon ;D
meron palang Pioneer A-400X dyan sa pier?
guys, A-400 is an award-winning british-designed int-amp
sabihan naman nyo ko kung may makita kayong A-400 sa pier.
thanks
most surplus amps we have are above the 100wpc category, i think at below 100wpc you will have very few if not none at all competitors, i however recall BGA's having 2 amps (one is HK i think) having below the 100wpc output.
OK lang yan... NAD amps are known to conservatively rate their amps and even if their amp's power output is just pegged at 80wpc, it is a high current output approximating or even surpassing other amps' conventional rating of 120wpc.
psst wanderlust, nasa iyo na pala yan decade ni dohbert..... hehe congrats ha.
hey guys, i can host the surplus amp shootout pero let's limit the protagonists to around 4 different brands so we can still listen to a 5th amp, preferably a current model... may i nominate:
1) audioslave's NAD C352
2) bga's Yamaha AX-1200
3) wanderlust's Sansui AU-D907 Decade
4) seacrstmd's Kenwood L-03
5) bga's HK or Denon PMA-780D, or nels76's Sony TA-F333ESX
yung hafler ni hans, power amp yun, di ba? dapat int-amp lang...
ayuz yan punk kid, dapat talaga may Rotel
to all RA-02 or other Rotel int-amp owners, sali kayo dito...
;D
ah sige sir, bale so far eto pa lang nag-mention ng intent:
1. audioslave's NAD C352 - new prod - 1st round2. hans' Hafler XL-280 - pre-owned - disqualified (power amp)
3. bga's Yamaha AX-1200 - surplus - 1st round
4. wanderlust's Sansui AU-D907 Decade - surplus - 1st round
5. bga's HK - surplus - 2nd round
6. nels76's Sony TA-F333ESX - surplus - 1st round7. john's Gainclone - DIY - 2nd round
8. akyat's Accuphase E-305 - 1st round (sa may ari ng lugar eh) ;D
titanium, pwede yata yan sa 2ndd round.... kasi may dagdag pa tayong dalawa:
7. homer's Marantz PM-50
8. bga's denon PMA-780D
audioslave,
pwede ba passive preamp?? calling master iceman hehehe >:D
para masaya, cge... kahit power amp pwede na... basta passive pre-amp lang ikakabit mo para walang advantage yung mga power amp na yan. pwede na yung entries nila hans, narayan at john...
the more entries... the merrier!!
;D
sana sumali si AV-phile dito... isali nya yung muscle amp nya na Acurus A250 at nang di naman mapahiya yung mga new generation s.s. amps. ;D
title ng shoot out: "Solid State Amp Shoot-out"
basta passive pre-amp lang ikakabit mo para walang advantage
;D
Naku po!!!! :o :o Yung passive pre-amp pa ni iceman ang napili! Eh, para ka rin naka-..... ;D >:D >:D
Naku. BIAS sa amp ko iyan pag yan ang dinala niyo. :D
muling dadami ang mga suplus owners hehehehhe ;D
Naku. BIAS sa amp ko iyan pag yan ang dinala niyo. :D
Naku Sony sa sony match.. >:D >:D Denon gusto nyo??
Ako pwede din yun Denon! ;D ;D ;D Kung alin yun madaling dalin para sa iyo sa sat. ;D
Walking Fish tayo sir hans!
Round 1:
1. Yamaha AX-1200 - surplus
2. HK PM-645vxi - surplus
3. Denon PMA-780D - surplus
4. Sansui AU-?707 - surplus
5. Accuphase E-305 - 80's pre-owned
6. LM3875 gainclone - DIY
Round 1:
1. Yamaha AX-1200 - surplus
2. HK PM-645vxi - surplus
3. Denon PMA-780D - surplus
4. Sansui AU-?707 - surplus
5. Accuphase E-305 - 80's pre-owned
6. LM3875 gainclone - DIY
ayos! bale 4 na ang confirmed na pupunta: hans, jojod, john5479, iceman & bga_vi..... tuloy na natin!
btw, special guest ang EL34 tube amp ni jetok in case di niyo pa naririnig maganda 'to.
Naku. BIAS sa amp ko iyan pag yan ang dinala niyo. :D
sayang sold na yata yun Rotel ni zephyr...
hanggang anong oras kayo bro??? tryo ko humabol kahit last full show :D
sineryoso yata nila yung suggestion ko na magpost:
"Results of the shootout are available for P50, buyer has a choice of receiving it in text form via pm or as a file via e-mail"
;D ;D
magdadala ba ako ng laptop to tabulate results? ;)
meron bang may external cd writer?
Rotel RA-971mk2 - new production
maganda siguro kunin natin top 3 ng oldies and the top 3 of the new production amps then yun na ang competitors for the next round, ok ba mga tsong?
suggest a little variation...top 3 ng oldies and top 3 ng either new production or pre-owned basta hindi kasing tanda nung oldies...also ung hafler power amp baka hindi parehas ang laban coz gagamitan pa to ng preamp...kargado kung baga ;D
titanium, ortigas area ako.... out of town ako this coming saturday so sa susunod na weekend pa.
sino-sino nakapunta sa round 1? paano natin pipiliin ang top 3?
- akyatbundok
- hans & france
- homer
- james16
- iceman
- jojoD
- john5479
- rossifumi46
- odyopayl
- ?
suggest a little variation...top 3 ng oldies and top 3 ng either new production or pre-owned basta hindi kasing tanda nung oldies...also ung hafler power amp baka hindi parehas ang laban coz gagamitan pa to ng preamp...kargado kung baga ;D
Sir Narayan,
Passive preamp lang naman po.. hehehe para naman ma-audition ng iba.. ;D ;D
salamat din po for bringing your gears, marami na naman tayong natutunan na pwede gastusan hehe.
raul, sir galing ng tube buffer mo very exotic, sayang di natin nakuhanan ng portrait.
guys, baka gusto niyo na rin lubusin ang shootout at isama na natin ang mga separates at hybrid, tutal nakasama na yung hybrid gainclone ni master jojo.... lagyan lang natin ng price ceiling, so yung [hafler + contodo] ay pasok na rin kasi nasa price range ng mga new production amps sa list..... kung ganon eh pasok din ang [kenwood/thx + contodo] ko bwehehehehe.
out of town ako this coming saturday so sa susunod na weekend pa.
i think bgavi's yamaha ax-1200 stood out as expected..... it is remote-controlled (motorized), so it has all the features of new production amps; smooth silver finish and glossy side panels looks elegant; and most of all it sounds musical & muscular at the same time.
john's non-inverted dual-mono gainclone was the smallest and lightest amp, but it had incredible bass -- fast, deep and detailed.
jojo's hybrid gainclone and bgavi's denon 780D were musical in the mids and highs.
just my impressions from very short & informal listening.... we were using all kinds of combinations: 2 CD players, one external DAC, a tube buffer...... it is possible that my impressions were of the source and not of the amp.... plus we played songs on one amp and not on the other, so it was very informal.
sir akyat, walang shoot out this coming saturday, august 7? ::)
kung may venue sana pwede, kaso sir out-of-town ako this saturday.... so if u guys haven't done the 2nd round yet, we can do it at my place again on august 14.
kung may venue sana pwede, kaso sir out-of-town ako this saturday.... so if u guys haven't done the 2nd round yet, we can do it at my place again on august 14.
Ayus yan sir, pwede ba isali yun leach amp ko? DIY ko yun sir. Pag yun Onkyo naman cdp ko dinala hindi tayo maka concentrate sa round 2. ;D
naku! delikado tayo dyan sa onkyo cdp ni masta. dadami ang bibili ng surplus cdp at magpapa tweak ke masta ;D ;D basta kami dapat sa unang batch na nakapila >:D
sir, bili ka na ng jolida o consonance cdp para di ka na pipila. ;D ;D
yun nga lang wala pa na-proclaim na winners dahil quiet masyado ang mga judges.
sino nga ba ang mga judges?? hahaha..... si master hans na lang papiliin natin ng winners.
naku! delikado tayo dyan sa onkyo cdp ni masta. dadami ang bibili ng surplus cdp at magpapa tweak ke masta ;D ;D basta kami dapat sa unang batch na nakapila >:D
kaya nga leach amp dadalin ko sir, para naman mai-compare ko naman sa branded amps. Sayang din at nilalamon na ng alikabok. ;D
kaya nga leach amp dadalin ko sir, para naman mai-compare ko naman sa branded amps. Sayang din at nilalamon na ng alikabok. ;D
Masta JOJOd,
Pa audition nya sir.. have not heard a leach amp..
mga magulang at kapatid, pwede sa August 21 natin gawin ang round 2? calling on audioslave, the dynamic duo, and other participants: may aasikasuhin lang ako dis week so baka closed ang bundok sa sabado.
sensya na ha, kung mas madaming available sa Aug 14, try ko adjust sked ko pero kung ok lang sa inyo set natin sa Aug 21.... ok ba?
mga magulang at kapatid, pwede sa August 21 natin gawin ang round 2? calling on audioslave, the dynamic duo, and other participants: may aasikasuhin lang ako dis week so baka closed ang bundok sa sabado.
sensya na ha, kung mas madaming available sa Aug 14, try ko adjust sked ko pero kung ok lang sa inyo set natin sa Aug 21.... ok ba?
Correction hindi pa bro. Kung next week pude ko isalang ito Rotel RA-980BX sa round 2 he he he
mga magulang at kapatid, pwede sa August 21 natin gawin ang round 2? calling on audioslave, the dynamic duo, and other participants: may aasikasuhin lang ako dis week so baka closed ang bundok sa sabado.
sensya na ha, kung mas madaming available sa Aug 14, try ko adjust sked ko pero kung ok lang sa inyo set natin sa Aug 21.... ok ba?
Ok lang sir... huhuhuhuh san ako punta SAT??
mga sir,
recent sighting,
1. Denon PMA 790, included in the niji list of top amplifiers in japan.
2. Marantz PM-74D
3. Onkyo Integra A-917
;D ;D
mga sir,
recent sighting,
...
3. Onkyo Integra A-917 integrated amp, for onkyo pictures http://www.bidders.co.jp/item/35717447
;D ;D
sir jojo,
makinis yung onkyo medyo mahal lang asking 6.5k . :(
yung denon mahal din asking 8k :( :'( :'(
marantz asking 6k :(
;D ;D
sir punk kid,
mahal nga sobra, pero hindi sa pier. dito lang malapit sa amin :)
sir jojo,
makinis yung onkyo medyo mahal lang asking 6.5k . :(
yung denon mahal din asking 8k :( :'( :'(
marantz asking 6k :(
;D ;D
bat parang ang mahal na ng mga asking price sa pier ngayon. siguro alam na nila tong thread natin kaya nag price increase na sila.
palagay ko tama ka. kasi kahit dito sa davao, lahat ng nababanggit na maganda dito sa audio threads, nawawala kaagad. di katulad noon, kahit dalawang linggo mong iwan pag binalikan mo nandun pa. pati 'yung nasa niji list, mukhang alam na nila, kasi kahit marumi o may tama basta nakalista sa website, nawawala agad dito.
palagay ko tama ka. kasi kahit dito sa davao, lahat ng nababanggit na maganda dito sa audio threads, nawawala kaagad. di katulad noon, kahit dalawang linggo mong iwan pag binalikan mo nandun pa. pati 'yung nasa niji list, mukhang alam na nila, kasi kahit marumi o may tama basta nakalista sa website, nawawala agad dito.
Hhhmmm.... baka may lurker nga talaga na trader ah?
Baka naman magdalawang isip na mga buyers pag tumaas presyo dba? ;)
isa pa sir, pag nasa pier ko tinatanong na nila agad kung ano hinahanap? talagang alam na nila ang mga hina hunting natin...
isang alternative dyan sir, yung gainclone amp mo ahehehehe
kaya if i was to go solid state again, mas option ko gainclone kaysa surplus... less hassle, 220v na, mura, pwede pa tubed - on line tech support pa!
oops baka OT ;D
hi,
Sighted today sa raon.
1. Surplus Marantz CDP CD-650, 2.5k asking
2 Surplus Sansui AU-X1, int. amp. Included sa niji list. ang mahal 9k daw :o
;D
oo nga,
sobra mag presyo, most likely may discount pa din yung cdp. ;D
Sir kelan ba pwede pagawa yung amp ko?
kaya if i was to go solid state again, mas option ko gainclone kaysa surplus... less hassle, 220v na, mura, pwede pa tubed - on line tech support pa!
oops baka OT
guys, tutuloy pa ba natin ang round 2? there's a listening session at alanranch's place on the 14th, and a speaker shootout at doc nirv's place on the 21st.... i read na gusto pumunta ang ilan sa atin, so para wala conflict give way muna tayo?
OO nga kaya nga happy ako every Saturday hehehehe.. at least kahit wala sa bahay eh solved pa rin sound trip ko hehhehehe :)
guys, tutuloy pa ba natin ang round 2? there's a listening session at alanranch's place on the 14th, and a speaker shootout at doc nirv's place on the 21st.... i read na gusto pumunta ang ilan sa atin, so para wala conflict give way muna tayo?
ang mamahal naman n ng surplus........ :'( :'( buti na lang naka 2 nako. loko tong mga traders na to ah >:( >:(, na pm nga c jojod, hehehe. >:D ::) ;D
ayan 2 sats of kuryente free audio nirvana! kaya lang ang lalayo nyo!!!!! sana i can mke it. :)
Sir, I'm with you whatever way we go. ;) Para maganda puntahan natin lahat. Nagpaalam na ako sa misis ko kagabi. ;D
hahaha maaga pa nag paalam na
"Masyado na yata napapalayo yan mga sessions nyo ah? Siguraduhin mo lang na audio session yan kungdi ikaw ang i-session ko!"
Pero pumayag naman sya after awhile. ;D ;D ;D
"Ano?!? 9:30 pa lang aalis ka na dito? Tapos gabi ka na naman uuwi? Sino ba yan Hans at Roger na yan? May field trip ba kayo puputahan?"
Whew!
Masta JOJOd,
Ok yan.... ginawa mo kaming alibi.. ;D ;D
hi,
Sighted today sa raon.
1. Surplus Marantz CDP CD-650, 2.5k asking
2 Surplus Sansui AU-X1, int. amp. Included sa niji list. ang mahal 9k daw :o
;D
I was a Sansui sales representative from the mid '70s to mid '80s and am very familiar with the AU-X1. What you said about it being "too sophisticated for its own good" is about as right-on as anything. The main problem had to do, oddly enough, with its "Super Feedforward" design, which was its main selling point. Since the SSF circuit was very stable in the AU-919, the engineers decided to try overkill in the creation of the X1. It was the unit's extremely high slew rate that caused it to oscillate at just about the drop of a hat, which always resulted in the output transistors going up in smoke. I found out the hard way that just about anything could trigger the unit into oscillation, including RF interference, connection to a speaker comparator, thin gauge or "resistive" speaker wire (this amp really NEEDED Monster Cable or Live Wire to work best; forget about "zip" cord) or even a speaker system with a less-than-flat (read that "easy") impedence curve. I also found out that one must NEVER power the unit up without speakers connected; it would blow up. Usually, leaving a headphone plugged in would prevent this from happening. When it did work, however rarely that might be, it sounded GREAT and was certainly the best transistorized integrated amp that ever came out of Japan (did A-B comparisons against the top Pioneer, Kenwood, Technics and Onkyo integrated units of the time; the only unit that came close was the AU-919 running in "bypass" mode). It was during one of these comparison tests that one of my associates decided to buy an X1. A couple of years and four sets of output transistors later, he sold the unit. He felt it was too unreliable. From the repair angle, my technician absolutely HATED the X1. According to him, each of the six demo units that we were running had blown up at least twice (this is where we discovered all the "don'ts" about this amp) and some as many as four times. He was glad that we did not sell that many units but did average an X1 every other month (for the same reason!).
I hope this helps. As repair parts are becoming increasingly difficult to find for the X1, I would recommend that you consider selling yours (assuming it still works) and, if you are still partial to the sound of Sansui amps of that era, consider getting an AU-919 (still quite a few floating around eBay). When a 919 is run in the "bypass" mode (a front panel switch), it is one of the sweetest sounding amps and closely rivals the X1, without all the trouble. It does significantly reduce the power (if memory serves, it bypassed the entire line stage and fed the power amp directly) but you will be rewarded with exceptional sound AND reliabilty.
If I may be any further assistance, please email me.
sir jojo,
>:D hirap pala makatakas sa inyo ;D ;D
I was a Sansui sales representative from the mid '70s to mid '80s and am very familiar with the AU-X1. What you said about it being "too sophisticated for its own good" is about as right-on as anything. The main problem had to do, oddly enough, with its "Super Feedforward" design, which was its main selling point. Since the SSF circuit was very stable in the AU-919, the engineers decided to try overkill in the creation of the X1. It was the unit's extremely high slew rate that caused it to oscillate at just about the drop of a hat, which always resulted in the output transistors going up in smoke...
This could be related to the subject of surplus amps getting very expensive nowadays. Had a chat with a trader here in Davao who deals directly with Japanese suppliers claiming they're having a hard time getting good models from recycling centers in Japan due to strong competition from Vietnam. While the Japs ship 2 to 3 container vans of surplus gears weekly here in Davao, up to five ships (dozens of vans per ship) full of surplus home electronics go to Vietnam every week. Japanese suppliers claim Vietnamese traders' offers are higher compared with those from local traders.
Of course, there's always a possibility of a conspiracy among traders and that they're monitoring our posts. Both surplus and brand new equipment retailers could benefit from higher pricing for "cheap junks." In any case, response should be rational, which could mean sort of a boycott - Aray! Internal na muna ang bilihan para mabawasan naman ang stocks nung iba diyan na para nang tindahan ang kuwarto. In the meantime, we could concentrate on promoting and learning from mods of local talents like JojoD and the others. Tailor-fit pa sa preference natin ang tunog.
I was a Sansui sales representative from the mid '70s to mid '80s and am very familiar with the AU-X1. What you said about it being "too sophisticated for its own good" is about as right-on as anything. The main problem had to do, oddly enough, with its "Super Feedforward" design, which was its main selling point. Since the SSF circuit was very stable in the AU-919, the engineers decided to try overkill in the creation of the X1. It was the unit's extremely high slew rate that caused it to oscillate at just about the drop of a hat, which always resulted in the output transistors going up in smoke...
Di naman, kailangan lang ng court order. Hehehe
wanderlust,
OT nice advise yan sir from the lips of an expert!! :) :)
pero parang straw... este sip sip ;D ;D
fish fish
Good AM mga guys
I have just hooked up my surplus Pioneer A400X (from pier) with my Chario Speaker and it seems that it match with this speaker, a well balance sound stage for me compare when I'm using my Onkyo TX SR600 but it need some time to warm up about 30 minutes then okay na. For more improvement balak kong palitan yung power cord niya and also need to buy new speaker cable since yung kanyang binding post terminal don'accept the banana type.
BTW my set up is here in Macau China, pinadala lang ng brother ko itong amplifier dito sometime in Jan 2004 but the unit was used with Wharfedale Crystal 10. According to him this amplifier produced the purest sound since don't have treble and bass control.
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Pioneer A400X
Production date 1985 to 1990
Hello to all members..
To update regarding improvements on my Pioneer A-400X. I already finished and installed my new gear to this amplifier and the result ....ÖUTSTANDING ..... the sounds was more like
a tube amp... bass was deeper and extended...
My Homemade Power Cord
Before
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After
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I used Denko wire, Hubbell medical grade plug (Twist- Lock type), TDK ferrite, and for the dressing Blue sleeve.
New Speaker Cable
Before
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After
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OFC Speker wire with ferrite rings
military grade speaker wires, pure copper ICs....one thing I can say: Hayuuuuup sa tunog!!!
Thanks bro for your comment .....it takes time also to assemble all those gear need to check every store here in Macau since nakakalat dito yung mga electronics shop and in addition hirap makipag communicate since they dont speak english. need to get picture in internet and print then show to them so they will know what I want.
Regarding construction I just consult some DIY audio tweaks sa internet.
The result was very impressive, it seems you are listening to a tube amp...a well balance soundstage....bass is tight but deep...... sulit lahat ng gastos at hirap...
Kung kaya ko gumawa nito kaya mo rin.....just have the right materials and guide from electronics guru (audio tweaks in internet) then you can make it.....
military grade speaker wires? hmmmm d ko pa natry yan ha. this would be intresting. ;)
yes sir, this sat indeed, d lang pala speakers pupuntahan ko amp din. ;D
I have this stranded wires from a Huey chopper that my brother-in-law gave me. He used to work for an airline. Dami nyan dun sa hangar kaya naguwi ako. ;D ;D
Though most are silver wires, I use it often on amps and haven't had the chance to try it as speaker wires. ;)
iceman- These military grade wires can be used as ICs or speaker wires. It will be available at our EB this saturday if you are interested.
This is not OT but I remember Dau/Clark, when I was just starting back in the '80s. That's the equivalent of Pier now, where you can get surpluses including small-item military-grade spare parts for fighter jets, satellite-based equipment, latest model tanks, etc. at junk prices (caps at P1 to P5 each and wires at P1 to P10 per meter.).
Those items, I was told, were best for audio DIY upgrades. The traders would insist those were superior (made to save lives, even a country, as objective) compared with commercial-grade parts. Got caps back then that replaced dried up parts of my Quad and other old amps and the results were okay.
An engineer from Eastern Telecoms who bought my Quad amp whose huge power caps I replaced with military-grade ones swore low frequency has improved if based on same model Quad that his brother-in-law owned. I also used DIY interconnects back then including tiny pure copper wires from jet fighter wire assembly which I braided for my old ARs, Bose, Infinity and JBLs (got into British speakers only in the early '90s).
But I got tired of those wires after about 10 years of use in mid-90s since they looked ugly and my wife didn't like them, so, I went back to Monsters' latest, such as Navajo Whites and Interlinks. But I still keep those military-grade ICs in my house outside the city. My braided wires (10 covered wires each of high-grade pure copper) I remember, were 6 meters long each. I'll probably install them back, pag na-inggit ako sa mga experiences ninyo.
Maybe I should build amps with this phrase in mind...
"(made to save lives, even a country, as objective)"
;D
iceman- These military grade wires can be used as ICs or speaker wires. It will be available at our EB this saturday if you are interested.
Ba't ako laging andito sa dau, walang makita.... :-\ :-\ :-\
iba yata pinupuntahan mo eh ;D
wala na ba nung sinabi ni sandawa na walang cover?
wala na ba nung sinabi ni sandawa na walang cover?
Kung inabot mo yung golden days of Dau, Sir, magsasawa ka ng parts para sa amps and audio DIYs mo. Nakabilao ang mga eletronic components parang sa palengke, iba't ibang kulay, grabe ang mga brands meron pang Martin Marietta (yung gumagawa ng rocket papunta sa buwan) - at may mabibili kang piyesa na dalawa singko! Dami ding Hustler tig-P10 ang walang cover, Sarap! Hindi na mababalik yun Sir, pumutok kasi si Pinatubo.
Kung inabot mo yung golden days of Dau, Sir, magsasawa ka ng parts para sa amps and audio DIYs mo. Nakabilao ang mga eletronic components parang sa palengke, iba't ibang kulay, grabe ang mga brands meron pang Martin Marietta (yung gumagawa ng rocket papunta sa buwan) - at may mabibili kang piyesa na dalawa singko! Dami ding Hustler tig-P10 ang walang cover, Sarap! Hindi na mababalik yun Sir, pumutok kasi si Pinatubo.
Lockheed Martin is that what you mean?
You're right. Lockheed and Martin used to be separate companies that merged dahil wala nang giyera. Also Martin and Marieta used to be two distinct companies, both defense suppliers. Ngayon, may giyera na ulit, buhay na naman and US war industries expect its economy to boom soon.
They shifted in building satellites and rockets....
I once see this motto on the shirt in one of our LM expat:
"We built Rocket For Food"
Not sure but I think Lockheed specialized in aeronautics while Martin's forte was avionics before they merged (after Martin-Marieta). Sana gumagawa rin sila ng amps and other audio equipment para mas masaya at hindi tayo OT dito.
puntahan na naman sa divisoria, este pier pala ;D ;D ;D
puntahan na naman sa divisoria, este pier pala ;D ;D ;D
mga pare, Round 2 sa sabado? ano say niyo.
gulaman afterwards.........................
Masta Akyat,
Will Try sir since meron extra gulaman treat baka pwede ambagan tayo ng P50 lang to cover the gulaman.. What do you think guys??
mga sir i have questions regarding this surplus amps... malaki po ba difference ng sound quality compared sa multimedia speakers like logitech z680 or altec lansing 641... i mean, if i will hook the amplifier to wharfedale 8.1 ano po ang magiging standing nya compared sa logitech z680 or z5300 in terms of sound quality..
lang ya may bago ka na naman naisip sir! kiti kiti ka rin pala e.
hehehe. ;D
fish.... ;)
but seriuosly, maganda yang proposal mo sir, nako pagnakataon on-line gaming will never be the same..... pati cguro ragnarok kaysarap laruin nyan. :o
hmmmm teka sir, pwede din yan sa PS2 ano? ::)
tanong ko na din po kung ano po marerecommend nyo between these,
Onkyo Integra A-817XX, A-819RS, ... yan lang kasi natandaan ko na models doon....
Well, my ideas for this mini-amp is it can be used as a pc amplifier, potable cdp (discman) amp, ps2, coiupled with my infrasonic parabolic microphone you can hear conversations up to 25 meters (so long as you have line of sight), and other wonderful applications.
Pwede na ba marketing??? Aaaarrrhhhgggg.... ang dami ko dapat gawin pero tinatamad ako!!!!!
good one sir...... am sure someones here will get intrested in this type of project, kung meron nga lang akong PC sa bahay ako 1st custo m.
o gawa gawa na daming pang nakapilang projects.... ;D
thanks po sa mga suggestions.... its the right thing to do.....research muna nga ako on what will please my ears... matagal tagal na hunting to sigurado...
tnx for all the help and suggestions.... da best talaga pinoydvd..!
Cool! I recently got a Diatone pre-amp/power amp combo for less than 10K. And they sound superb too. 8)
Kung hindi maganda ang tunog, pang-display na lang, para hindi talo!
Mukhang maraming Japanese esoteric amp models na pumapasok lately. Finally got, early this month, a replacement for my Yamaha B-70 power amp (early '80s). It was a Yamaha B3 power amp (mid-70s) that looks like a long black solid brick (6X6X14) with huge cooling fins on side walls, poging tingnan at bagay sa WS Tono dahil halos magkasing lapad sila. Ang tunog? puwede na, pero mas pino at malinis ang Accuphase at mas mataba ang Alpha 907.
Also got an Integra P303 preamp (mid '70s) at giveaway price last week. It sounds sweeter, yet subdued, compared with Tono - good for hours of loud-volume listening. It's of minimalist design, limited to volume control and selector buttons for phono, tuner and tape. Nothing more.
Palagay ko kung dadalasan niyo ang bisita sa Pier may makikita rin kayo diyan na weird looking audio. Sayang din, lalo na kung mabigat (sinaksakan ng isang damukal na piyesa at bakal ng mga Hapon para gumanda ang tunog at maibenta ng mahal) at mura pa. Kung hindi maganda ang tunog, pang-display na lang, para hindi talo!
I would replace its amp module into a LM GC! ;D to make it productive in my setup!
something intresting...... but after collecting 2 amps, and forever waiting for that ever so hard to find models i have grown weary and shifted to surplus speakers and cdps....
now with this latest development, maybe its now time to rekindle that love affair....
maganda ang tunog sir, dahil siguro sa dami ng filters. pati yung mga masama sa original recording ang dinig ko parang naging mas listenable. sabi ko nga, mas maganda ang epek compared with Tono. pero kanya-kanyang dinig yan, baka naman defective na ang tenga ko.
but the search have just begun!!! ;D
mga sir, need help on these surplus amplifiers.... hirap na kasi ako hanapin sa google... so i decided to go here... hehehe.. my last option...
Victor AX-110
Victor JA-S51 ( maganda ang looks nito and malinis pa, wala halos scratches)
Trio KA-7100D
Technics SUV6X
Technics V7
Thanks in advance....... ;)
pass muna sir, there might be better units out there.
Iba talaga si Masta Akyatbundok... malupet!!
nyeks di naman mga sir..... may friend ako yun officemate niya na-assign for 3 months sa japan..... balak namin mag-bid dito sa amp na katulad ng surplus amp ni BGA_VI..... bidding closes in 3 days current price is Y3,000 or roughly P1,500.
(http://img113.ac.yahoo.co.jp/users/0/9/2/6/udf93532-img600x450-1096443294100_0507.jpg)
mga sir tanong ko na rin po kung normal lang sa onkyo integra yung popup sound pag initial power on... para kasing masisira ang speaker....
chito,
Thanks.. wala na pala yun shop near Isetann according to BGA..
Hi sandawa,
Talking about the Tono preamp improving the sound of surplus amps. I recently tried to connect Tono preamp to the equalizer connections of my Pioneer int amp. I think Iceman mentioned this before but using an AVR.
Int amp equalizer out --> Tono preamp in
Tono preamp out --> Int amp equalizer in
This is a far better connection. Now I can play LOUD without the music being muddy.
Louie
This is a better connection
after long research in the forums, i finally bought this surplus amplifier.... ONKYO Integra a-817xd
hanep ang tunog! swabeng swabe, i can listen to this for hours without headache! kaso sa typical sony ref style speaker ko palang nasubok... i dont know kung ok ang tunog nito sa target kong speaker which is wharf 8.1... ok rin po ba sa 8.3 to?
For those amp that has the external connector, the ideal connection is still the tono pre-amp to the power-amp-in.
Hi! I did a set-up with my friend who had a pair of 8 ohm bookshelf speakers in his sala and a pair of 8 ohm cube speakers in his foyer all connected to the Speaker A and Speaker B inputs of his Marantz surplus amp. After 3 songs running both speaker A and B, the amp was really hot. Fearing that it would break down and thought there was a problem with the amp, I replaced it with a Sansui surplus stereo amp and connected them speakers to the amp. There were no problems for 4 days until suddenly the amp just shut down and no way can it be turned on again. I ran through the system and didn't find anything wrong like a possibility of a short or something.
Possible problems:
1. AVR- amp is connected to a 1000W AVR in 110 volts. This is a brand new AVR...possible uncontrolled voltage in the AVR(?). Jap amps need to be plugged in 100V as said in the back of the amp. Would this cause the problem?
2. Speakers- 2 way bookshelf 120 watts 8 ohms, cube speakers 60 watts 8 ohms both running as speaker A + B. My Jap friend told me that it is ok to run speaker A or speaker B but not Speaker A + B. It might have caused the problems of the amp. Is this true?
3. Amp- 2 amps bogging down in the same set-up(?) I am now using my Luxman stereo amp in 220 volts. Fearing it might follow on the same fate. Hmmm.....
Need help gurus...anyone?
Thanks in advance!
but in the '80s and '90s, even Sansui's service center at VV Soliven admitted A and R amp/receiver series (Sansui models starting with those letters) frequently suffer from that problem.
I think these are the sansui receivers/amps that featured their superfeedforward designs.
Most of their integrated amps starts with A (as in AU) and perhaps the receiver starts with R.
The fact is that the later '70s and 80s international models are not manufactured as good as the Japan local counter models.
did you audition it Master?
Master,
kala ko HT setup ang gagawin mo sa QC using diamond 9 :o
sayang we didnt listen to it, baka may potential >:D
9.2 sana kaso brown type ko senor KID.. tsaka na hati yun budget ko ;D ;D kaya 2 channel na lang muna.
sir, kung square ang takip ng transformer mo at medyo mababa - hindi matangkad - pero mabigat, bilog din na toroid yan sa loob. magandang modelo yan huwag mo basta basta pakawalan. pag nagkahirapan sa supply ng high-power integrated amps in the coming month, puwede pang tumakbo yan ng 5-figures lalo na kung bonus time at mataas ang demand. 160wpc RMS yan kung hindi ako nagkakamali.
Hi,
si Koya Hans may bagong precious yan !!! Hehehe !! ;D ;D
sir pinakawalan sandali ni wanderlust yun Sansui nya at nasa akin, kaso di ko na natiis at binarena ko na! Hahahaha! ;D
Seriously, I have to replaced the binding post to accept banana plugs, spades, bare wires etc.
All I can say is ang bigat nito! Wahhhh! ;D ;D ;D
Gusto ko sana, pero baka mas malugi ka. Una walang warranty ang galing dito. Secondly, yung maayos na surplus amps at least 20 kgs., roughly P1K sa freight charge, tapos baka pagdating diyan pisa na. Mas mabuti pa siguro diyan ka na lang bumili, at least puwede kang mag-habol sa retailer.
Isa pa, Online-based job ako, tambay sa desktop buong araw, hindi basta makalabas except on Saturday. I'm supposed to be in Manila 1st or 2nd week of January but I'll probably bring only two CDPs, naka-kontrata na kay JojoD. Unless he doesn't need those junks to tinker with anymore. Mahirap magdala ng audio equipment, since the well-made and powerful amp units weigh more than 20 kgs., while upscale CDPs at 10 kgs. or more.
Galeng mo Master! may bagong toy ka na naman pala..... sana madinig namin yan sa 30th >:D
Guys just gone to the supermarket last Friday and saw this beauty..
Victor AX-Z921 Digital Basic Intergrated Amplifier K2 ( w/ build in DAC )
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/Pic_0132.jpg)
Tested it and hay nauwi ko na rin tuloy.. ;D ;D
you can't go wrong by bookmarking this site: http://www.niji.or.jp/home/k-nisi/index.html.
use Altavista Babelfish to translate Japanese to English.
many of the models shown on that site, with original prices of 100,000 yen or more ($900 and above) are among Japan's best audio issued commercially in 70s and 80s. they arrive here (as well as in Vietnam, Indonesia and southern China) as surplus/junk units. as far as i'm concerned, the quality of those units, assuming they're A-1 condition, is better than brand new units/models you buy here at P60K, or more.
if local distributors were able to get these from Japan during their heydays, they'd likely to be quoted at much more than their list prices. such was the case in UK for good Japanese audio imports. for instance, Sansui Alpha 707 in Hifi-Choice 1991 had a 1,600 pounds list price and Alpha 907 had 2,000 pounds (or over P200K). those quotes were higher compared with most of their (British) high-end models. remember that British audio sold here now comprise mostly entry to low-middle models. i bought my Alpha 907 at P8K here in Davao two years ago, Alpha 707 was available here a month ago at P4K (warehouse as-is price - could go up to P7K in retail shop) and Alpha 607, with a few units still unsold, at P5K, good condition, shop price.
Hans,
by how much?
Bro 5,500 but i haggle kaya got it 5k flat.. :)
hans,
congrats on your new toy! marami pa ba mapipili doon?
sir hans, where you bought this stuff? i mean yung store location... tnx!
mga sir tanong ko lang kung meron po kayong info on this amp: Marantz esotec series sc-6
a friend of mine was offering it to me for swap... thanks
merry christmas to all!!!!
hi relay_70
i'm not sure if you've been thru this yet, but if not, check this out. according to these sites, the Marantz Esotec SC series are pre-amplifiers not amps. hope this helps.. :)
http://www.classic-audio.com/marantz/esotec.html
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14974&item=5738046958&rd=1
Sir AKYAT,
may naliligaw bang MARANTZ 2270 sa Pier?
and if ever ,how much yung presyo?
Familiar ka ba sa model na yun and can you comment sa 2270?
Thanks!
Definitely, the NAD unit should free you of any risk involved in getting surplus amps. But for 5T, I'm pretty sure you can get a more powerful surplus amp with specs that are no different, if not better, than that NAD. Bear in mind that many of those surplus amps were Top-Of-The line units during their time. It's risky alright, the chances of getting lemons are higher. But once you get a good one, by most accounts here, it can prove to be a great value for the money.
So what units/models should I be looking for? The room size is about 30 sqm. I'm interested in what amps I can get for 5K? 4K? Even 3K? At the least, I can have a short list with the amps I should be watching out for when I go back.
I overlooked your room size which is above the typical. Unless you have a very sensitive speaker in the 90+db range, a 30sqm room could require more than 70watts RMS/ch of stereo to fill it with enough headroom for clean sound. Suggest you get a 100wattRMS stereo amp. There are many at the pier going around 5T which you can haggle for around 4T or less. Is this for music only? What's your speakers? Do you want room-filling sound? DO you play loud? No neighbors close by?
sir gibson,
where can i get the nad c310(for 5k) you mentioned. i have AE evo1 and im planning to have a separate set-up for audio using the evo1.
im not experienced kasi on surplus amps, i might get lousy ones. maybe somebody here can give me a suggestion what to look for if ever i go to pier. di na siguro kailangan na malakas na amp, as long as it can drive my speakers decently.
thanks.
parang part of a set yata to kasi naalala ko noon na ilang patong yun. di ko lang sure kung anong mga pinagpatong noon dahil maliit pa ako. are the power rating in 4ohms or 8ohms mode? ano po yung DIN rated?
THis is rated into 8 ohms. 4-ohms rating for the home was quite rare in those days. This was an integrated stereo amp that came with a separate T-707 tuner, a cassette deck and turntable - the standard ubiquitous audio systems set of the 80s. I think the set also included a pair of 3-way speakers.
DIN is a German standard used extensively in rating gears destined for Europe. Forgot what the acronym stands for, but it's in German. Not as strict as FTC standard. Similar to JETA or EIAJ of Japan that rates the amp at 1kz, one channel driven at a time.
yung nasa ibaba na picture, eksakto, available sa Arjoel outlet sa F. Bangoy, mint condition pa. palagay ko ibibigay ng P4K.
Has anybody been to the pier recently? I was there a few months ago and i couldnt find higher wattage amps like Sansui AU 707 (I never hoped to find an au907). I found a few aud607 but they weren't in good condition. Kaunti yata ang dating ng surplus units from Japan. If anyone found good items from the Pier surplus area, kwento naman oh.hintay-hintay lang sir. I was able to get Sansui AU-D907X and Kenwood L-03a there before.
mga sirs, may amp ba sa pier na may phono input? yung pwede kabitan ng TT...may idea po ba kayo kung magkano? para kasi na-eeganyo ako mag-analog eh..tsaka sayang kasi yung vintage kenwood speaker ko..ginarahe ko na kasi nakabili ako ng bagong speaker...sayang kasi kung ma-stock lang baka naghahanap lang ng ka-match na amp...ok na ba ang surplus amp ikabit sa TT? ok na ba ang sound non? sorry for newbie questions...bubot pa kasi ako sa audio eh..thanks sirs! :D
parehong maganda yang nakita mo, but i'm biased in favor of the Sansui. the Pioneers are good for those who prefer hard-rocking amps, magaling sa bayuhan. i just got a 20wpc Pioneer SA-710 (7100 in the US made in early '70s) at P750 that sounds heavier than new production models, rated 50wpc and above, costing five figures. maganda ang tunog ng vintage amps - Sansui at Pioneer, both Audio Karma favorites - since these firms didn't rein on money they spend to produce good hifi until mid '80s.
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/piotop2.jpg)
the Pioneer SA-710 wrapped in good quality wood that still looks great even after over 30 years.
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/pionude1.jpg)
nude 710 shows clean layout/design
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/pioback1.jpg)
with 8 inputs - 2 phonos, 2 auxiliary equipment, 2 tape loops, 1 tuner, and 1 microphone. also comes with preamp out and main amp in jacks
BRO MASAMA NA NAMAN BINABALAK MO, hehehe......
cge lang basta update mo ako sa mga bago mong gears ha....
enjoy..... ;) LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL, di ba? hehehe.....
Hi Sandawa.
The SA710 seems to be in pristine condition sandawa. Great value for the price you paid brod. Is the case wood veneer? I love wood veneer. Its a pity the Sansui's wood case is a total wreck. The SA9800 i got has a pure metal case. No wood. I saw a brochure in the AK forum showing that the amp comes with a wood case option.
About the Pioneer VS Sansui comparison, i also snagged a pioneer SX1080 about a month ago. (from Art Flores a Las Pinas Audio collector and seller if you've heard of or met him already). It was in good condition except that it heated up very quickly. I stopped using it until i find a solution to the heating problem. (The DC Offset measured very high and i think we need a manual to adjust it.) However, that pioneer sounded very well and can match up toe to toe with the Sansui in my opinion. But I like rock so other's may think differently.
I think i've seen your "sandawa" handle in some of the AK posts i've viewed. Is that you ?
Last time I was there a month ago there were 2 or 3 luxman integrateds I saw with the Duo-Beta circuits. I saw the first in one of the stores dedicated solely to audio with stacks of sansui and other amps, VHS and CD players. Another inside the complex.
Okay i checked the stores inside the complex. I found a black Luxman L3. I brought it home with me.
I wonder what this unit can do.
Foo
bhongskie,
sent you pm bro.
1. Alpine/Luxman LV101 - though this is not in the niji list, I still included this as the Luxman's are higly recommended by the gurus here. Had a listen to this and the mids and high sounded good and clear pero parang kulang sa weight yung bass. I'm also a bit dissapointed with its weight which is quite light and when I peeked through its grills parang medyo maliit l yung transformer niya. Gurus, ganito ba talaga deign ng Luxman?
...2. Sony TA333ESX - Saw this inside the covered mall area and mukhang ok pa yung condition ng unit. Asking was a bit high so I didn't bother to listen to it. Just listed it down anyway just in case I can't find a better bargain...
...I felt especially good also about the Sansui CDP x317r (not in the niji list) because it sounded better than Denon DCD 1500 and it read all CDs so inspected it more thouroughly this time...and my, I was surprised 9and a bit disappointed) to find out printed at the back "Made in Taiwan" ??? Anyway, did I say it sounded great? ;D
ano kayang ok na surplus amp to drive 2 Bass Shakers and 1 DQ-12 ? ???
kasi from the DVD Player's Sub Out .. kakabit ko sya sa (i dont know what INPUT) amp tapos nakakabit yung 2 Bass Shaker at isang DQ-12..
also..
san yung pier ? ???
waaah! help :(
I went back to the pier last Saturday to scout for an amp (armed with the Niji list in the car ;D and my test CDs). After going around the outlets, I narrowed down my choices to the following:
1. Alpine/Luxman LV101 - though this is not in the niji list, I still included this as the Luxman's are higly recommended by the gurus here. Had a listen to this and the mids and high sounded good and clear pero parang kulang sa weight yung bass. I'm also a bit dissapointed with its weight which is quite light and when I peeked through its grills parang medyo maliit l yung transformer niya. Gurus, ganito ba talaga deign ng Luxman?
2. Sony TA333ESX - Saw this inside the covered mall area and mukhang ok pa yung condition ng unit. Asking was a bit high so I didn't bother to listen to it. Just listed it down anyway just in case I can't find a better bargain.
3. Sansui AUD-507X
4. Sansui AUD-607F Extra
- Saw these last two units in the same shop along the road (I think among the shops I visited there, it has the biggest inventory of amps and CDPs). Although, I know that the AUD-507x is the smaller brother of the much sought after AUD907x, I opted to get the 607F-Extra even if its P500 more than the 507x's price because of the following:
-higher power rating
-wood panel of the 607F-Extra is still intact
-much heavier build
-Tested both with the same source and material and I liked the 607F better.
I'm disappointed not to find a Sony ES series CDP so I settled for Sansui CDP which read all my p-disk/CDR/Orig test materials and hooked up to the 607F sounded excellent ;D Since I got the 2 units from the same shop, I was able to haggle the price a little bit lower ;D.
I felt I had a good deal with these purchases and this was confirmed when I hooked it up with my 15-year old JVC component bookshelves. The sound was full, the mids are clear, the hihgs are just right, and it has ample bass...I can't believe I'm listening to my old mini-component bookshelves. Just out of curiosity, I played the same material (which BTW is track 4 of Audiophile Voices I) in my HK/Diamond 8.3 set-up and it only edged my all-surplus finds by a small margin in the bass region (which is understandble because the 8.3s are towers).
I felt especially good also about the Sansui CDP x317r (not in the niji list) because it sounded better than Denon DCD 1500 and it read all CDs so inspected it more thouroughly this time...and my, I was surprised 9and a bit disappointed) to find out printed at the back "Made in Taiwan" ??? Anyway, did I say it sounded great? ;D
Bro san ka mangagaling?? familiar ka Manila Cathedral lapit na sya dun.
ano tawag sa place ?? "Pier" tlga ?? may mga boats ba dun ? ???
Bro nice catched you got there!!.. yun surplus Victor amp ko still providing best music i tried bi-wired, connecting HF sa speaker A then LF sa speaker B then sabay ON hehehehe mas maganda separation/depth and more focus image. ;D
ps i got a sony cdp esd series last saturday. found one inside the building. i saw another one in the same shop just in case you're interested.
nice catch! i auditioned a higher model 'bout a month ago (AUD-707f) pero parang it sounded a tad shrill so i let it go, (though it could have been the speakers). i assume you got your's at chatty's also?
for those interested in another sony 228 esd; enter the one story structure via the last entrance. take the first left, count around 6 to 7 stalls on your right. seller is a fair complexioned big lady with glasses. look for the 228 on the pile immediately facing the shop entrance (it's the sixth unit from the top).
have fun!
Hi i've never been to the pier po, tanong ko lang kung meron silang mga power amps na may VU meters doon, i'm looking for the Onkyo Integra m504 or it's variants po,,,, :)
excuse me mga sir tanong ko lang kung may mabibili bang sub don sa pier?
tnx po
Hi i've never been to the pier po, tanong ko lang kung meron silang mga power amps na may VU meters doon, i'm looking for the Onkyo Integra m504 or it's variants po,,,, :)there were/are power amps and usually comes with a pre-amp. last time i went there I saw a Sony 3xxES Power amp. didn't bother to audition though. The ones you're looking for are very rare and if they surface, sold/reserved already. better check yourself and maybe you may find a gem.
excuse me mga sir tanong ko lang kung may mabibili bang sub don sa pier?there were subs there. I saw some Sonys and Kenwoods but didn't bother to check.
tnx po
there were/are power amps and usually comes with a pre-amp. last time i went there I saw a Sony 3xxES Power amp. didn't bother to audition though. The ones you're looking for are very rare and if they surface, sold/reserved already. better check yourself and maybe you may find a gem.
regards
Sir magkano on the average mga power amps? say around 150watts per channel rms? On the earlier part of this thread may nakaspot ata ng onkyo integra m506 kaya lang matagal na ata yun,,,
heres a pic of the Onkyo Integra m506
(http://www.hikaricamera.co.jp/M506.jpg)
hmm..... if ever po kahit hindi onkyo integra may makikita kaya ako na power amp dun na may vu meter (parang needles)sa harap?
there was a pair of Integra 506 (pre- and power amp) sold here in Davao last year. price was P8K, power amp alone was P5K, last price from the traders. could go down to P5K for both/package if sourced from the warehouse. ngayon, wala nang dumadating. (i don't think there will be good-model arrivals in the coming months.) Integras sure look nice, but didn't have high re-sale values in Japan, based on Selword register.
sirs.. pwede magpaturo? clueless ako pier gears. i know its a hit or miss thing. sana pwede magbigay kayo tips do's and dont's; step by step procedure on buying surplus amps, etc. what to look for when inspecting the units; then after buying; how to go about cleaning, and the what ifs? where to buy parts (if still available); service centers if meron or refer to competent technicians, hobbyists.
thanxalot...
peace...
100 volts vs. 110 volts.
I totally agree with Sir Sandawa re: 100 volts. My brod's Sony CD Player heated up faster when using 110 volt step down transformers. He had better results when using the flimsy looking 100 volt transformers u can buy at the pier for 200 pesos rather than the heavy black 110 volt transformers costing 500 pesos or more.
i think Wanderlust - one of the good guys you can trust here - is unloading some of his gear including an AU-D907X. even at P10K walang lugi dyan, kung sa US eBay, it would still bid as high as $600. if it's the AU-D907X Decade, lalo na - a Japanese resident here told me there's not much difference between 907X-Decade and first generation Sansui Alpha 907.
sir,
salamat po. i actually am not very convince in letting this baby go, hirap, but i have not used it since jan this year, sayang lang kong nakatago at inaalikabukan lang.
posting the innards
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/wanderlust/100_9210.jpg)
mga gurus,
any comments po ba sa NEC A-10 maganda po kya e2 for 2 ch listening..
galing ako sa pier eto lng ung medyo mandang amp dun.. saka ung Onkyo A-701 Integra.. o maghintay nlng kya ako bka my maganda pang dumating.. any suggestion po?
http://www.niji.or.jp/home/k-nisi/a-10.html
The Nisi site says:
Input terminal (level/impedance)
PHONO (MM) 2. 5mV/47k Ω
PHONO (MC - Low) 80 μ V/10 Ω
PHONO (MC - Hihg) 250 μ V/100 Ω
TUNER 150mV/20k Ω
TAPE (1 and 2) 150mV/20k Ω
CD 150mV/20k Ω
AUX 150mV/20k Ω
i am no guru, but one japanese friend told me, products for local jap markets are even better quality than those for export! brands that are popular here in philippines are not that popular in japan!
that nec model looks awsome! from what i can glean from the psu design, it has a second thyristor controlled power supply traffo that reinforces the main traffo when demand for higher output is detected! psu rails are reinforced!
these japs can really come up with innovative techniques in amp building!
bro, eto ba yung specs ng NEC? pwedeng pwede na ito kabitan ng TT... ;)
2ny,
i've been reading your posts and i assure you, even with over 20 years of hi-fi hobby (including some 5 years of trading hifi in Diliman in mid-80s) i'm learning a lot. it's true Japs had cut on expense for their international models to be competitive. even for same number models, those sold internationally were fitted with inferior, cheaper, components. thus, Jap domestic models, now known as surplus here, are of better quality. that's the reason why some Audio Karma veterans envy our stash of cheap Jap vintage gear.
anyway, here's the innard of the Alpha 907 for comparison with the 907X-Decade:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/pbsansuia907.jpg)
true, those silver Sansuis sold here in the '80s were hardly distributed in Japan. matindi ang Hapon sir, Sansui's top of the line Alpha series in the int'l market is always one model down compared with their domestic models. Thus, the Alpha 907 series or its equivalent, was never sold internationally, only the Alpha 707 models - re-numbered 911, etc. - were sold in the US and Europe. the few Alpha 907 in the US are now bidded at close to $2,000 used (even the Alpha 607, at over $1,000 used). that figure is 7 times the average eBay closed-deal price for the classic Dynaco ST70, which is quite popular here.
the feedforward technology was Sansui's comparative edge
You may want to skip their models using their proprietary super feedforward circuitry which I heard was quite unstable at high volumes that easily fried the power transistors.
bro, magkano daw yung NEC A - 10? Yung Onkyo? pareho bang may phono input? Thanks ;)
My experience in buying pier surplus units is that, the phono sections have problems. I have two Sansui AUD 707 that both performed well with CDs but the phono output is horrible.
this is because the phono stage has its own preamp inside the amp and due to dissuse for a very long time, the contacts on the selector switch would have been tarnished, cleaning with wd40 may help. besides the eletros in the phono preamps may need to be replaced. you can order replacement caps from farnell or rs, panasonic low esr's are a good choice, bypassing with polypropylene caps can do wonders!
WD40?! I will never use WD40 for the contacts of any switch. I'll use a good contact cleaner instead.
this is because the phono stage has its own preamp inside the amp and due to dissuse for a very long time, the contacts on the selector switch would have been tarnished, cleaning with wd40 may help. besides the eletros in the phono preamps may need to be replaced. you can order replacement caps from farnell or rs, panasonic low esr's are a good choice, bypassing with polypropylene caps can do wonders!
haven't tried this yet, but thanks for the advice - especially contact cleaning. i know WD40 has been frowned upon by electronics technicians in the US, but we don't have Caig DeoOxits here (January pa dadating yung order ko). i'm no techie, so, i still use WD40 and Electra for contact cleaning. pag hindi umubra yung isa, lipat sa kabilang brand.
haven't tried this yet, but thanks for the advice - especially contact cleaning. i know WD40 has been frowned upon by electronics technicians in the US, but we don't have Caig DeoOxits here (January pa dadating yung order ko). i'm no techie, so, i still use WD40 and Electra for contact cleaning. pag hindi umubra yung isa, lipat sa kabilang brand.
Sir Cire2005,
My humble advice po pala.
My experience in buying pier surplus units is that, the phono sections have problems. I have two Sansui AUD 707 that both performed well with CDs but the phono output is horrible. The problem in buying units for phono use at the player is that there are no test units at the pier. Maybe the gurus here can advise how to test the turntable section.
Foo.
sir my friend was the one who got the AU-907F last saturday for P4.6K.. nagulat lng kmi dahil mura usually higher wattage medyo mataas cla magbigay.. here's the list of amp na pinagpipilian nmn at that time:
1. Marantz PM-84 - P5.5K
2. Sansui AU-907F - P4.6K
3. Yamaha CA-1000 - P4K
4. Sony VFET 3650 and 4650 - P2.5K
we went back there to get the Yamaha pero nakuha na raw nung morning kc gabi na kmi pumunta..
sir review nmn sa mga nakuha mong amp.. hows the sound of CA-1000 in class A mode and the VFET of Sony? meron pa dun VFET 3650..
Thanks!
buti pa kayo dyan may magagandang dumadating. that's the correct pricing for those amps, from P10 to P15 per watt (based on power consumption at the back). yan ang dating presyo dito sa Davao nung marami pa rito, ngayon mahal na yung magaganda - at wala nang malalaki na dumadating.
true, the Sony 3650 is not part of the much sought after VFET batch. yang si Axel (Paris-based) bilib na bilib sa Pinoy kasi daw bakit ang daming audio collectors' items dito sa atin. nagkwento ako sa kanya na sikat na sikat sa Philippine hifi boards ang site niya: http://www.thevintageknob.org/ hindi niya alam puro Jap surplus yung mga units natin. mahal sa kanila yan, yung iba sa Audio Karma naghahanap ng lumang VFET willing to pay up to $500 each for the TA-4650. the Marantz PM-84 is good buy for P5.5K, baka puwede pang tawaran: http://www.quarter-a.netfirms.com/pm-84.htm
OT:
sirs,
what tuners are available sa pier, and how much? what are the brands/model ang pwede na? what are the things i should look out for?
ey japan standard nga pala ang mga surplus tuner sa pier >:( , kelangan pa yata re-channel (?).
BTW, mayroon din palang surplus shop sa Bulacan
BTW, mayroon din palang surplus shop sa Bulacan ... Dumaan ako noong Saturday at nakakita ako ng ... Sansui AU-D907 ... Php 2800 lang ... Unahan uli ...
Sir Bumblebee,
Nag su surplus amps ka na rin ba?
Mga Sirs,
Ako po iyung nakabili ng Sansui AU-D907F sa tulong ni Sir Gutchy. Akala ko pangit iyun pala ... Yun di ang sinabi ko sa Yamaha CA-1000 noong dumaan kami ni Sir Gutchy sa Pier noong nakaraang Martes ... Pagtingin ko sa niji the ff: day ganda pala nung CA-1000. Noong binalikan ko that day wala na raw. Noong umaga kinuha iyung Sony TA-4650 at Yamaha CA-1000. Mahirap talaga magsalita ng "pangit". Nakakadalawa na ako (buti na lang noong una nakuha ko iyung Sansui). Sa susunod uling shipment sa Pier hinding hindi na ako magpapalagpas at ... wala nang salitang "pangit"...
BTW, mayroon din palang surplus shop sa Bulacan ... Dumaan ako noong Saturday at nakakita ako ng ... Sansui AU-D907 ... Php 2800 lang ... Unahan uli ...
Mga Sirs,
Iyung pong Surplus shop sa Bulacan, "as is" at "no return no exchange" ang bentahan. Hindi po puwedeng buksan. Iyung Sansui AU-D907 wala po iyung speaker connections niya. Other than that mukhang wala nang ibang missing. Tinignan ko iyung pictures sa http://www.sansui.us/images/AUD907/ at parehas na parehas iyung hitsura. Sabi sa akin ng kaibigan ko kailangan mo raw kaibiganin ang mga kargador at magbigay ng padulas dahil by the volume ang bilihan. Pagdating kasi nung container isa isang binabasa iyung mga nag pa reserve. Pag tawag sa pangalan mo kailangan kunin mo na ang allotment mo at hindi ka na puwedeng magreklamo.
Sabi nung kaibigan ko pwede rin pa isa isa kaya lang mas mahal. Medyo nakakatakot dahil kung wala kang alam sa electronics at ang nabili mo ay ayaw tumugtog yari ka na. Maganda siguro magkaroon tayo ng group buy at tulong tulong na lang tayo na ayusin iyung mga ayaw gumana. Anong say niyo?
Haha. So it was your friend who got the TOTL AUD907Fextra. I hope he's also a member of this forum. He's much quicker than I am. Give him our congratulations on a nice amp for a very good price.
The TA3650 is indeed not a VFET. Its the TA4650, TA5650, and TA8650. Please don't pay much money for these units at the pier. Tell the sales guys that its very risky to buy these units because the VFET parts are not replaceable and their liable to get damaged. heheh. Let's not push up the prices.
I haven't hooked up the CA1000 yet until I've had the alignments and adjustments done. However, Sir Sandawa has a Yamaha CA1000iii which is very similar and he's mighty fond of his unit - and so are the Audio Karma guys.
Maganda siguro magkaroon tayo ng group buy at tulong tulong na lang tayo na ayusin iyung mga ayaw gumana. Anong say niyo?
Wala ako nakitang magagandang amplifier except for the Sansui AU-D907. Anyways, ito ang mga natandaan ko
1. Sony TA-2650
2. NEC A-700
3. Yamaha CA-X1
4. Denon PMA-700
Wala kasi sa listahan ko kaya iyung apat lang na iyan lang ang natandaan ko. Baka kasi may mga bago this Saturday ...
in this hobby, the journey is as much fun as the destination.
then i came back and asked the guy -- what's your last price? ......he says P3,200.
ano?? sabi mo "2.8k pwede pa bumaba" tapos ang last price 3.2k?? he ought to wipe the drool on his chin coz he's probably thinking he got me there..... if a buyer comes back the next day looking for a specific model he probably wants it badly..... enough to bend over backwards and get screwed.... anyway, he denies having quoted us the price i was expecting, and soon he was looking at my back and i'm riding into the sunset. :P
cire2005,
Looks new pa ah :) If you can change the backlight to blue, ala McIntosh dating. Congrats.
yup bro! makinis pa talaga... and wait 'til you hear it sing.... ;)
.... due to my near fiasco last year i have in mind a super downsized, minimal cost setup that includes a Wharf 9.1 speaker, Sansui amp and Sansui tuner -- that's pretty much all i need, with unlimited source material coming from the tuner.
yup bro! makinis pa talaga... and wait 'til you hear it sing.... ;)
congrats cire... looks quite yummy ;)
thanks attorney! iba talaga tunog ng vintage amp.. para tuloy gusto kong mag-downgrade sa 2 channel...hehehehe ::)
sir hans and sir narayan,
Thanks to both of you.. Kung hindi dahil sa mga advice nyo, hindi ko makukumpleto ang ganitong set up!
Mabuhay po kayo! :-* ;) ;D
Miss ko tuloy Victor ko.. :'( :'(
8) Mga bros. how would you rate the following surplus amps which i found in alabang:
1. Technics s-7600
2. Aurex sb-410
3. Denon pma-730
4. Sony ta-2650
5. Yamaha ca-5100
6. Denon pma-550
Price range from 2,500 to 3,500. Thanks
OT:
sir, what's the model of your sansui tuner? sa pier mo din ba nakuha, how much if you don't mind?.
thanks
:)
baka sabihin mo snubs kami rito. sa totoo lang, i'm not familiar with any of those amps except the Sony TA-2650 (kalimutan mo na 'yan- not one of those VFETs). unless there are others here who are using some of those amps.
but then, better to audition them and let your ears decide.
Let me describe the base with some poetic license...
Awesome bass emanates from the woofer, crawls on the ground, climbs up your toes and up your legs. It makes your knees wobble. It socks your stomach, squeezes your heart and slither up your face. The bass brings tears to your eyes and finally, it oozes slowly and gracefully out of each single strand of your hairtips - making them stand up as if in fright but in reality is in audio ecstasy.
The unit still heats up but its not very hot anymore and the sound it produces compares very very well with most of my amps. The unit is now being used by Rusty. I havent found a service manual for the TA4650 so I haven't used it up yet. But the two times, I powered it up, it sounded more suited to my taste than the Yamaha CA1000 when every setting is set to neutral. The bass is simply superb.
way i understand it, v-fets are bised quite high, at more than 250ma at idle, higher order odd harmonics tend to be minimized at the output stage, thus the tube like sound!
Sir 2ny,
Can you pls enlighten me on the VFETs. My understanding is that FETs are voltage devices.
Thanks,
Rascal101
there are 4 amps because it has 4 separate channels for speakers A & B. ;)
advantage ng four discrete amps for stereo?
1. you get the same power output for half the voltage rail.
2. slew rate is doubled.
3. output signal is isolated from fround.
4. output transistors get to enjoy bigger SOA, thus is more likely to survive overloads better!
anyway, jim bongiorno of the GAS ampzilla fame also came out with this topology in his SUMO line of power amps. the japs are easy to catch up!
speaking of SOA, any amp that has a SOA that can withstand the full rail voltage is very hard to get destroyed in use!
I'm confused. Do these assumptions assume that the amp is bridged?
It is not bridged in any way, it is single ended.
sir meron po ako na yamaha surplus reciever 110 pwede po ba rin e off set DC nya ano po ba advantage pag na off set sya kc ang bilis nya maginit kaya di ko na sya ginagamit sa ngayon and paano sya e off set
ty po :-)
don't be, the amp is bridged to make it a stereo amp! it is not unussual that it is so... ;D
single ended? since when? ;D you must be mixed up with tubes! ;D ;D ;D
Sir 2ny,
Thank you very much for the info. However, can you send me bigger copies of the info regarding VFETs. I have trouble reading the small letters. My e-mail address is:
[email protected]
Thanks,
Rascal101
you're assumptions has declared new parameters
sir any procedure on how can i properly bias the transistor? there are only 2 trimpot on the amp section one per channel..
what other things to check before placing the new transistor?
sir medyo OT pero tanong ko lng kung original ung mga available na transistor sa raon?
cire2005,
Looks new pa ah :) If you can change the backlight to blue, ala McIntosh dating. Congrats.
hi sir bumblebee, on the second thought, prang maganda nga kung blue yung ilaw niya? is this possible? may blue po bang bulb na nabibili nito? thanks ;)
Meron naman siguro. Try Raon.
Like this:
(http://www.mcintoshlabs.com/images/MA6900-front.jpg)
Found this in one shop:
Onkyo Integra A-917RV2
Sansui AU-D607F
Sansui AU-D607Fextra
Can you please give me some insights on these amps, how much should these go for. Thanks. If I'm going to use it for 2-channel music system, any of these ok?
Found this in one shop:
Onkyo Integra A-917RV2
Sansui AU-D607F
Sansui AU-D607Fextra
Can you please give me some insights on these amps, how much should these go for. Thanks. If I'm going to use it for 2-channel music system, any of these ok?
this was i got last friday sa pier ;)
onkyo integra A-917F
http://images.google.com.ph/imgres?imgurl=http://audio-max.net/goods_img/a-917f.jpg&imgrefurl=http://audio-max.net/cgi-bin/goodslist.cgi%3Fthis_num_genre%3D%26this_num_goods%3D3%26genre_id%3D00000001%26sort%3D&h=120&w=160&sz=5&tbnid=8P6aeiMK_BAJ:&tbnh=69&tbnw=92&hl=tl&start=1&prev=/images%3Fq%3Donkyo%2Ba-917f%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dtl%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN
pki-open nalang po ang site. nasa page 7 sya i duno how to post pic eh... pero ganyan ganyan, pati color and makinis pa,
audition ko side by side with sansui 707, parang mas maganda tunog nito para sa akin and tamang tama lang sa panlasa ko. ;)
this was i got last friday sa pier ;)
onkyo integra A-917F
http://images.google.com.ph/imgres?imgurl=http://audio-max.net/goods_img/a-917f.jpg&imgrefurl=http://audio-max.net/cgi-bin/goodslist.cgi%3Fthis_num_genre%3D%26this_num_goods%3D3%26genre_id%3D00000001%26sort%3D&h=120&w=160&sz=5&tbnid=8P6aeiMK_BAJ:&tbnh=69&tbnw=92&hl=tl&start=1&prev=/images%3Fq%3Donkyo%2Ba-917f%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dtl%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN
pki-open nalang po ang site. nasa page 7 sya i duno how to post pic eh... pero ganyan ganyan, pati color and makinis pa,
audition ko side by side with sansui 707, parang mas maganda tunog nito para sa akin and tamang tama lang sa panlasa ko. ;)
this was i got last friday sa pier ;)
onkyo integra A-917F
http://images.google.com.ph/imgres?imgurl=http://audio-max.net/goods_img/a-917f.jpg&imgrefurl=http://audio-max.net/cgi-bin/goodslist.cgi%3Fthis_num_genre%3D%26this_num_goods%3D3%26genre_id%3D00000001%26sort%3D&h=120&w=160&sz=5&tbnid=8P6aeiMK_BAJ:&tbnh=69&tbnw=92&hl=tl&start=1&prev=/images%3Fq%3Donkyo%2Ba-917f%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dtl%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN
pki-open nalang po ang site. nasa page 7 sya i duno how to post pic eh... pero ganyan ganyan, pati color and makinis pa,
audition ko side by side with sansui 707, parang mas maganda tunog nito para sa akin and tamang tama lang sa panlasa ko. ;)
may i ask how much ?
this was i got last friday sa pier ;)
onkyo integra A-917F
http://images.google.com.ph/imgres?imgurl=http://audio-max.net/goods_img/a-917f.jpg&imgrefurl=http://audio-max.net/cgi-bin/goodslist.cgi%3Fthis_num_genre%3D%26this_num_goods%3D3%26genre_id%3D00000001%26sort%3D&h=120&w=160&sz=5&tbnid=8P6aeiMK_BAJ:&tbnh=69&tbnw=92&hl=tl&start=1&prev=/images%3Fq%3Donkyo%2Ba-917f%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dtl%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN
pki-open nalang po ang site. nasa page 7 sya i duno how to post pic eh... pero ganyan ganyan, pati color and makinis pa,
audition ko side by side with sansui 707, parang mas maganda tunog nito para sa akin and tamang tama lang sa panlasa ko. ;)
sir pigaan eh! 4k, 3 months waranty. :D
oks na rin, ganda ng tunog, dapat sansui 707 kukunin ko,
kaya lang mas swabe sa panlasa ko tunog nito.
that's a bargain. if i'm not mistaken, someone from this thread saw an A-917F last year at the Pier but the price quoted was P6K(?). at 80wpc rating, that would be about 200 watts (or a little less) power consumption, which means the Pier traders are now using the P20 per watt guide, the factor used by Davao traders (either binabasa nila tayo or they consulted with Davao importers/traders). BTW, the Japan auction price as per mentioned URL was 25,000 yen, which is roughly $200.
the onkyo integra M510 imho is miles away from the alpha 907. ;D
the onkyo integra M510 imho is miles away from the alpha 907. ;D
onkyo grand integra M510 ...http://page.freett.com/knisi/m-510.html
what do you mean by "umuugong"? humming ba or high pitched?
what you can is clean your pots, a faulty bypass electro could be causing this.
there is a voltage amp stage wherein the elctros could be leaky, that is why it is humming, have it hecked by a qualified technician.
ok thanks sir...
last question sir, wla po bang problema kung 90w lang speaker na gamit ko sa 125w na amp? thanks po ulit.
Ok lang yan cire2005. Most speakers can take more than their power handling specifications.
it is your amp that will run out of steam before your speaker does! do not letr the power ratings get you.
Saw a Buy & Sell ad for a Sansui BA-1000 power amp for 6K last week and immedately called the seller. Unfortunately, someone has bought it the same day the ad came out, lucky guy, (will that be you sir Foo?) :)
Another one was selling a BA-2000 for 7K but did not bother to call na.
sorry, i beat you into it. bought it through a cellphone call last week - i'm from Davao. Narayan got it for me, will pick it up mid January and it will be part of my close to two dozen vintage amp collection. was told it's not in mint condition and exhibits channel imbalance. nice thing about it is it has a service manual available free online. i think, it needs some restoration work: recapping and valve changes and that could mean a couple of Gs more to spend. luckily, i still have about a dozen tube spares here, including ax7s.
Can I find good surplus AV receivers with 5.1 or ac-3 capabilities sa pier?
Can I find good surplus AV receivers with 5.1 or ac-3 capabilities sa pier?
here in Davao, 100V transformers are everywhere - from hardwares to electrical shops - and they come cheaper too compared with those of 110V ratings. i'm using Panther and Zebra brands, which i think are quite reliable (Zebra also has outputs for both 110V and 100V)
I got mine at Ace-davao. Your local Ace hardware should have this.
hans,
is this the specs of your amp?
Specifications DSP-E1000
Minimum. RMS Output Power (8 Ohms, 20-20,000 Hz)
Front Channel Does not provide main channel
Centre Channel 80 W (0.015% THD)
Effect Channel 25 W + 4 W (rear/front) (0.05%)
Pre Out Terminals Main, Centre and Effect Channels
Subwoofer Outputs
Duel Centre Speaker Capability
Remote Controllable Master Volume Motor-Driven with LED
Direct DSP Programme Access
Dynamic Power/Ch (8/6/4/2 ohms)
Damping Factor (8 ohms 20-20,000 Hz)
Frequency Response (20-20,000 Hz) +/-1.0 dB (pre out)
THD (8 ohms, 20-20,000 Hz) 0.005% (centre, pre out)
Signal-to-Noise Ratio (CD) 96 dB (tape monitor)
Dimensions (W x H x D) 435 x 131 x 386 mm
Weight 12 kg
Wouldn't it be the reason that you get a louder center channel than the mains since it is mentioned in the specs that that it is a 80Wx1 (center) and 25wX4 (effects) amp? I remember during Yamaha's AVR "pro-logic" days that they use have a 2 FRONT EFFECTS channel and 2 REAR EFFECTS channel, like for the 795 model ata. Does this mean you may need a 80x2 W MAIN channel.
Just curious. ;)
The Pier Surplus outlets sell those 100 volt step down transformers. You can get them in various wattages. I am not sure if i recall correctly but the 200+watter goes for about 250+ pesos while the 400+ watt transformers goes for about 400 Plus pesos. I suggest you get the higher wattage transformers in case you need to power more than one unit.
I've been seeing a Yamaha DSP2000 in one of the pier outlets for several months now. It was being quoted at 8000 pesos then. Its probably still there now. Its in the last outlet after Little Chatty's.
Some of the Japanese surplus units that i own have provisions for easy conversion to 220 volts with just a few re direction of the power source wirings by a good technician. After a few accidents, I've preferred conversion to using transformers whenever possible. (Yes, i've properly labelled all my 100 volt electrical plugs and Murphy still exercises his Law.)
based on experience changing the transformers to the recommended 100v will lower the temperature. used to have that same problem on all of my surplus amps but once i supplied those with the voltage required everything worked out fine.
hans,
is this the specs of your amp?
Specifications DSP-E1000
Minimum. RMS Output Power (8 Ohms, 20-20,000 Hz)
Front Channel Does not provide main channel
Centre Channel 80 W (0.015% THD)
Effect Channel 25 W + 4 W (rear/front) (0.05%)
Pre Out Terminals Main, Centre and Effect Channels
Subwoofer Outputs
Duel Centre Speaker Capability
Remote Controllable Master Volume Motor-Driven with LED
Direct DSP Programme Access
Dynamic Power/Ch (8/6/4/2 ohms)
Damping Factor (8 ohms 20-20,000 Hz)
Frequency Response (20-20,000 Hz) +/-1.0 dB (pre out)
THD (8 ohms, 20-20,000 Hz) 0.005% (centre, pre out)
Signal-to-Noise Ratio (CD) 96 dB (tape monitor)
Dimensions (W x H x D) 435 x 131 x 386 mm
Weight 12 kg
Wouldn't it be the reason that you get a louder center channel than the mains since it is mentioned in the specs that that it is a 80Wx1 (center) and 25wX4 (effects) amp? I remember during Yamaha's AVR "pro-logic" days that they use have a 2 FRONT EFFECTS channel and 2 REAR EFFECTS channel, like for the 795 model ata. Does this mean you may need a 80x2 W MAIN channel.
Just curious. ;)
http://www.echoloft.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/Printpage.cgi?board=tell&num=1046310788
Enjoy.
Finally found a surplus Yamaha learning remote and it only cost me Php. 800, got it from Pier after scouting on so many shops there...
here's how it looks
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00086.jpg)
By the way its a learning remote and can adjust most of my audio/video gears specially the Yammy DSP-2000.
uy! oks yan bro... lucky for you. congrats!
Kung mangagaling naman sa kanya most probably galing iyung parts sa isang vintage na amp din. Siyempre kapag luma, most probably konti na lang itatagal.
Mga sir's,
When I use ba a 100V stepdowns instead of 110V will it change my Yamaha A/V amp temperature? besides from modifying the AMP itself, how can I lower the heat being produced by the amp?
Your comments and suggestion is highly appreciated!!!
Thanks...
Hello,
san ba pwede mag pa service ng mga vintage na amp?
meron kase akong nahukay sa bodega ng tito ko na integrated stereo amp (sansui A-5). nilinisan ko, gumagana naman, yun nga lng pag pinipihit ko kahit na anong knob nagkakaroon ng maingay na sound, tsaka pansin ko kahit na zero ang volume may lumlabas pa rin na sound from the left chanel..
meron ba kayong kilala na marunong gumawa? natatakot kase ko pagawa sa ib kase baka karnehin an parts, sayang naman.
it is doubtfull that temps will be lower when using 100volt stepdowns, temperature is a function of idle current setting, so setting idle currents to a lower value will definitely decrease temps.
hey rascal, you may find it odd, but i also do repairs/upgrade for pc psu, and my favorite source of parts are the sidewalks of raon! i am more confident buying them than from say, deeco ;D
and parts coming from vintage amps are no issue imho, specially power transistors, small signal ones are easy, they can be replaced at will.
ss devices unlike tubes does not suffer from emission depletion over time, they are either good or they are bad, seldom in between.
sirs,
my Kenwood L-03a is dying... :-[ . initially, the there were distortions with the right channel and sometimes no sound was coming out. only the left channel is working but after about four or five songs, no music can be heard from both channels. can you point me to a very good repair shop for this amp? will the shops in pier be a good place to have it repaired? or someone here in PDVD can do the job?
thank you very much.
2ny,
so yun pala ang clipping, ibig sabihin ba di kaya ng amp yung speakers ko at medium to high level?
thanks
Puwede ka magpa service sa Pier dun sa Little Chatty's. Sabihin mo sa technician na lahat ng parts mangagaling sa iyo. This way puwede kang bumili ng original parts. Medyo matagal nga lang itong process na ito dahil hindi gagalaw iyung tech hanggang hindi mo nabibili iyung parts. Kung mangagaling naman sa kanya most probably galing iyung parts sa isang vintage na amp din. Siyempre kapag luma, most probably konti na lang itatagal.sir di ba risky ito. baka kasi kapag sinabi sa kin kung anong parts ang kailangna palitan eh dagdagan... ::)
at first ang akala ko mali yung pag biwire ko kaya ganon, pero kanina ng may pop corn ulit e tinangal ko na yung biwire ko ganon pa din nandon pa din yung pop corn sound. sir hindi ba nakakasira ng speaker un? (kabibili ko lang po kc non last jan 2 e... )
- and incidentally discovered a terminal of a small transistor is floating from the PCB. I discovered it by putting test speaker in the problematic channel, and pressing gently each PCB component.
i doubt i can do this myself but ill try sir ahobbit, tnx.
question sir, what if i cant find the prob myself can u point me to a good amp doctor? ::)
tnx mga sir appreciate it! ;)
if you are near any EVER Gotesco mall, try LOVE electronics or any electronic repair shop inside the mall.
If you are near Aurora Cubao, try Betacolor repair shop
If you are near 2ny place, then go to him.
They base their price on the power consumption indicated at the back of the unit. The xdecade has 320watts and the GExtra has 270watts indicated at the back.
The xdecade has 320watts and the GExtra has 270watts indicated at the back.
Look at the Back of an AUD707GEXtra. Its made of copper or brass while the XDECADE's back panel is painted black.
sansui BA-2000, power consumption 480 watts (rated) 910 watts (maximum) as indicated at the back
pioneer A-91 D, power consumption, a whooping 1000 watts
this is the rating of the total wattage of appliances you can connect to the outlets at the back of the amps, no relation to actual performance.
What then is the wattage figure (270 watts) indicated right below the serial number at the center of the back of the amp? I always thought that they referred to the power consumption. I used to divide the power consumption by two to get a ballpark estimate of the RMS rating of the amp.
Look at the Back of an AUD707GEXtra. Its made of copper or brass while the XDECADE's back panel is painted black. I am not sure if it is also brass. I also note that the front panel of the 707FExtra of Sir Parasmi is silver (Sir Parasmi bakit po ang gaganda yata ng mga audio equipment na dumadaan sa mga kamay mo?).
I got my Xdecade for a lower price though because the wood casing was totally dilapidated. I replaced it with old narra wood I removed from my mother's wall paneling. I just stained the narra a little darker to approximate the dark mahogany finish of the original amp's particle board casing. It looks better now with real philippine wood.
after several trips to the pier and going home empty handed, i finally got myself this......
Sansui AU-D707F extra....condition 8/10.....performance ???? (will hook it up this weekend pa lang) ;D
(http://www.PhotoServer.us/is.php?i=143217&img=aud607f_Extra_5.jpg)
also sighted and considered were the following
Sansui AU-D707X decade - dropped it kasi more than 3k price difference nya from the 707 extra
Marantz PM-80 - looks impressive kaya lang wala ako masyado info about it.
@ sir 2ny
ty po. can i let podmoon do the removing of the transformer? saan po ba ito sa legarda?
btw, yung amp ko which is a denon pma 390 iii ata, pumipitik yung selection of inputs at various stages pag naka power on sya (palipat lipat ng sources), although mag stastabilize naman after a while. normal po ba yun? ang alam ko kasi eh hindi siya automatic na gagalaw unless ilipat mo ng source physically from the knob or remote (pero wala itong remote). any technician that you know that can do the job? tia again
I was at the pier last week... I didn't see any Luxman... Luxmans are sold very quickly.
sana maka tyempo rin ako ng lv-103. i wonder kung nagkakaron pa nito sa davao
Luxman hybrids hardly showed up in Davao. btw, those Luxmans were already part of the Alpine catalog and while it was quite popular here in RP, that series was not a big hit in Japan. LV-103, for instance was sold brand new at only 79,000 yen, way below the price of a pure solid state amp at same power range. current re-sale value of LV-103 in Japan is about 5,000 yen or $45.
Regarding the Luxmans,
I am not a Luxman expert except that I have 4 Luxman amps i can compare. Ever since Sir Sandawa advised me on the great quality of Luxman amps I have been on the lookout for them...
1). M120a power amp, Duo-Beta, 2x120W, (1980-83
2). L400,
3). L3 integrated amps, 2x42W, (1980)
4). and LV105u hybrid 80WPC into 8 ohms (105w into 6 ohms), with low impedance compatibility
Reposting what I asked in another thread. I hope you guys could help me out.
I saw a surplus yamaha being sold here, and I was wondering if anyone knows anything about the unit. Its a Yamaha AVX 1000 DSP.
Not really sure if its a good receiver, but I would really want to know if it is.
Is this good for a starter setup? ???
just wondering though, why does it have 2 transformers? separate kaya power supply for each channel?
Thanks sir!!
Actually I saw it here in a surplus shop in Davao. Pero binebenta rin at 5k. Medyo may kamahalan nga ano if yours was at 5k. There were some Denon Amps din eh, check ko lang ulit model number. I'll try to go hunting again. :)
audio amps have "fads" just like jeans, dati uso yung bell bottoms nung araw, ganyan din sa amps, pioneer and others also came out with simmilar designs, at the time they thought that using 2 small transformers rather tthan a big one will improve sonics, and also make for a low silhouette design. times keep on changing and with it amp design changes also.
I just bought a second hand JVC CD player from a fellow PDVD member, i want to buy a surplus integrated amp at the pier. Meron na bang mabibili na desenteng amp sa budget kong Php 2.5K?
Ok, thanks. BTW, hindi ba naman mahirap mamili dun? Anong particular na models ang dapat kong hanapin (para madali maghanap). TIA.
mga sir, paano ba ako makakapunta dito sa pier..sa quipo church ako manggagaling ?
SANSUI B-2102 power amp - 200wpc
Although not acquired from the pier, still qualifies as surplus since I got it from a used audio store in Dau
Bought as is because left channel is busted. For 2k, i think its worth the gamble. Nasa doctor na as of now ;D
similar to the B-2101 in built and appearance (i think)
thanks sirs :)
I'm keeping my fingers crossed on this one. I will have some updates from my tech this weekend......
now is a good time to change the driver and power transistors with modern types, lesser chance for getting fakes.
ask your tech about it, a check with newport or oriental for new devices will be worth your trouble and you will be rewarded with a better sounding amp.
finally, i would recommend that you replace all electros along the signal path with new ones, elna, nichicon and or rubycon are fine, they are available from eleshop in raon.
Pahinga muna sa acquisition ng amp afterwards hehehe
hehe kinain ko sinasabi ko ;D
got the Sansui G-8700DB from eBay (Philippines) ]http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9704242770 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9704242770[/color)
hehe kinain ko sinasabi ko ;D
got the Sansui G-8700DB from eBay (Philippines) ]http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9704242770 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9704242770[/color)
sir Parasmi,
Ikaw pala nakakuha niyang magandang receiver na iyan. 160wpc di ba? Again another nice catch.
regards,
Foo
check this out-
(d ba torroidal trafo ang es amps natin? eto hindi...pero may wood sidings.. :) ayos pang bi-amp ;D
http://cgi.ebay.com/SONY-TA-N330ES-Stereo-Power-Amplifier-Home-Theater-MINT_W0QQitemZ9710455923QQcategoryZ14973QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
sir parasmi.....pang-penitensya hebigat mga sansui vintage classics mo! ;D
pag nagsawa ka benta mo ulit sa akin,
hehehe.... congrtas bro. ;)
akyat,
ayos iyong nakuha mong luxman hybrid, marami ka bang nakitang ganoon doon?
eto bumulaga sa akin sa pier kahapon.....
Luxman LV-109
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9715943528 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9715943528[/color)
binili ko kaagad!!! ;D
eto bumulaga sa akin sa pier kahapon.....
Luxman LV-109
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9715943528 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9715943528[/color)
binili ko kaagad!!! ;D
nice catch sir mike... :o :o :o
Whoa!!!
Another TOTL!!!
LV-109 could be TOTL in Alpine/Luxman line in late '80s but its average Yahoo auction re-sale value in Japan is low at 15,000 yen (same as LV-103u). Here are average quotes in the last three years for other used upscale Luxman units that have appeared or were mentioned on this forum recently, not necessarily TOTL: LV-107u - 30,000 yen, L-530 - 25,000 yen; L-540 - 50,000 yen and L-570 - 70,000 yen.
But then again, if I saw an LV-109 in good condition and it's priced below five figures, I'd probably buy it. I think it is a good buy for a collector. It could serve as sample of Alpine/Luxman's equipment output since it took over the Luxman brand in early '80s.
sir parasmi, congrats! isa na namang backbreaking treasure yan ah
siguro dati kang pirata, at home na at home ka sa pier! ;D ;D ;D
I just bought a second hand JVC CD player from a fellow PDVD member, i want to buy a surplus integrated amp at the pier. Meron na bang mabibili na desenteng amp sa budget kong Php 2.5K?
Finally, i got myself an amp for my CD player. I bought it from a fellow PDVD member. It's a Denon PMA 920 which was accordingly bought in the US sometime in 1991. When i got it, it looked as if it's been from a bodega. The RCA jacks are heavily corroded (parang may asin) and when you peep inside, ganon din ang makikita mo at makapal na alikabok. Have it cleaned before i set it up. When i put it on and played a CD, wow my diamond 8.3 gave a new sound, buong buo ang bass, and i'm hearing instruments na hindi ko masyado naririnig before. At ang boses ng singer, malinaw na malinaw as if nasa harap mo lang sya. Ok na ok na sana, here comes the problem, suddenly one of the speaker went on and off and also gave unwelcome noise na parang static at medyo humihina. I put the amp off and wait for about 5 minutes to open it again and same problem occured. Inulit ulit ko yung same procedure and i noticed that minsan yung kaliwa at minsan yung kanan na speaker ang nawawala. Major problem kaya ito? Guys please help naman.try nyo po linisin yung volume control first. yung contact cleaner po na madaling magevaporate ang magandang pangalinis diyan. wag po kayo gagamit ng wd-40 dahil magaacumulate lang po siya lalo ng dumi katagalan.
... Ok na ok na sana, here comes the problem, suddenly one of the speaker went on and off and also gave unwelcome noise na parang static at medyo humihina. I put the amp off and wait for about 5 minutes to open it again and same problem occured. Inulit ulit ko yung same procedure and i noticed that minsan yung kaliwa at minsan yung kanan na speaker ang nawawala. Major problem kaya ito? Guys please help naman.
try nyo po linisin yung volume control first. yung contact cleaner po na madaling magevaporate ang magandang pangalinis diyan. wag po kayo gagamit ng wd-40 dahil magaacumulate lang po siya lalo ng dumi katagalan.
joey is right, the pots probably just need cleaning. in my experience it's also worthwhile to check the DC-offset of newly bought vintage amps, whether Jap surplus or int'l/US units (which could likely be inferior to 100V units internally). DC leak could destroy HF speaker units.
Another newbie question lang po. Yung Denon PMA-920 ko po ay merong A+B speaker out option, can i use both in bi-wiring (or bi-amping?) my Diamond 8.3? Which is better, bi-wiring using output A only or bi-wiring using output A+B?
i see no problem either way... ;D
Isolate the problem by
1. Try changing the interconnect cables or speaker cables
2. Try switching the speakers use the Right Channel speakers for your amps left channel
3. Could it be the source (CD or DVD ) and may problem ?
funny how I had a similar problem with my old amp, everytime I would bring the amp back to the shop it would "heal" itself, but once I got home it was busted again. Eventually the intermittent problem became permanent and the technician was able to fix it
Finally, my Denon PMA-920 is now functioning well.
good for you, sir ;D Ako rin, nagawa na yung power amp ko. Dinala ko na sa authorized Sansui sevice center sa may Soliven bldg along EDSA di na kasi magawa nung local technician namin :( It cost me arond 4k :'(
good for you, sir ;D Ako rin, nagawa na yung power amp ko. Dinala ko na sa authorized Sansui sevice center sa may Soliven bldg along EDSA di na kasi magawa nung local technician namin :( It cost me arond 4k :'(
so, bukas pa yung Sansui service center sa V.V. Soliven? Yung nasa likod, right side if you're entering from EDSA? the last time i visited that place was 10 years ago, wala, even the signages were gone. i saw a Sansui oldtimer sometime in late '90s working in Virra Mall who told me some of his colleagues were working in Raon and in Banawe, QC and some have already gone abroad. if a Sansui service center has reopened in V.V. Soliven, that's good news and thanks a lot!
yes, they're still open :) you remember it correctly, sir sandawa. If anyone's interested, their number is 726-2697
Thank you very much for this valuable info parasmi. Kamusta naman ang service nila? I want to bring my AU-D907X for a check up also.
ok service, sir. mabait naman yung owner/technician. tinulangan pa akong i-pack tsaka kargahin yung amp ;D napamahal lang bayad ko dahil madami parts na pinalitan :(
Sir pwede ba malaman anong amp ang pinagawa mo? And what is the name of the tech? I was there yesterday at about 9:10 kasi sabi nung nakausap ko sa phone they open at 9:00. I had to wait for an hour bago dumating yung mga tao >:(. There was another guy who had been waiting also, but probably not as long as me. Sabi daw sa kanya pwede na makuha ung Sansui receiver nya, but it turned out naka-kalas pa ??? He was looking for a certain Danny, who I think was also the guy I spoke with on the phone. Apparently this Danny is the only one who does amps because when I asked the lady in charge whether I could stay around and watch the check up proceedings she told me no because the guy who was going to do it wasn't around. She said I should call back Monday afternoon.
Well the guy who was expecting to take home his receiver didn't seem upset. I would have been if I were in his place! But from his exchanges with the lady, I gathered he had probably been their client before. In fact he was asking if a huge Sansui quadraphonic (is that the right term?) that had apparently been in the shop for a long time was available for sale.
The bottom line is that my experience with service shop didn't leave me too confident. Yes the other tech who helped me bring in my amp was friendly, and so was the lady. But I was hoping to talk with the actual guy who would fix my amp. Add to this a small, lingering fear that my amp could end up being the parts source for some other project of theirs. Or they could quote me an atrocious price in the hope of me abandoning my amp there and they could then sell it at a profit.
I know, I know...I sound paranoid ::). But this has been know to happen in other service shops.
The good thing is at least you had a good experience there. Sana ako din!
All's well that ends well :). Got a text message from Fil-Audio yesterday at about 10:45 that my unit was done and the cost was 1,090.00. Went there at about 2:00pm and sure enough my AU-D907X Decade was singing again! Danny told me he had to replace some transistors in the pre-drive section. He obviously has had a lot of experience repairing vintage Sansui gear.
Sayang I had to leave that same afternoon for an out of town appointment. Won't be back 'til Saturday evening so I haven't really had a chance to test the unit longer than the few minutes I heard it playing at Fil-Audio. But I have no doubt that Danny did a good job and he did it much faster than I expected. Hmmm... I wonder if he reads this forum, or is even a member?? ;D
So to all of you vintage Sansui (and maybe other brands?) owners out there, there are at least two of us PDVD members who have had recent, good experiences with Fil-Audio. And if you add to that what Lord Foo has said, I guess this is one service center that knows what they're doing.
The store only allows power on test only. Is there a way to know it if is still ok by just power on test only?
heard "dana"s au9500 - big bro of au7500, drove victorsx5....classic vintage sound as near as can be to tube sound! ;D
...kaya gets mo na ung isa sa tabi jan while available...pede pa nga raw pa adopt muna sayo e ;D ;D ;D....
different set ups for different flavors & moods...
dana,
oks nako HK vintage.
really very tempting basta sansui, meron pa nga 907fextra decade / 707extra / alpha series...pass nako. timplahin ko na lang preamp ikot-ikot tubes at later tube buffer....dali lang bili rekado raon di ba? ;D
;D
sent u pm
sir rene,
ano nang nangyari dun sa US surplus amp prospects natin. may balita ka ba? o talagang junks na mahirap na i-revive. sayang kasi.
sir rene,
ano nang nangyari dun sa US surplus amp prospects natin. may balita ka ba? o talagang junks na mahirap na i-revive. sayang kasi.
Sir Rene, Sir Nani,
Ano yang bulungan nyo na yan...baka pede ako sama jan, mukhang maganda yan ah.... ;D ;D ;D
Dana, Thanks dun sa tip sa Sansui AU-7500, kaya lang hanap ko mga AU-D907xxx series. Willing akong i-trade iyung AU-D907F + cash sa AU-D907 Alpha o mas mataas na series sa 907F ko.
sir, tama yang plano mo -- kung makakahanap ka. malaki talaga ang diprensya ng Alpha 907 sa 907F, parang 3 to 5 times more powerful sa sound yung Alpha 907. meron din akong AU-XII, same rating sa Alpha 907 - 160wpc@8ohms/240wpc@4ohms - pero no comparison. i have over a dozen high-power amps here, pero yung Alpha 907 lang ang kayang mag-palabas ng deep clean bass ng JBL 4430 (2235H model 15-inch woofer). compared with that combination, nag-tunog entry level yung ibang systems ko. clean live performance sound, even at room-level volume.
I ended up owning a 60wpc NEC-A10II - dual JFET monoblocks for 4K. convertible integrated-separate, all sealed alpha pots. Am not using them for now - but will not also sell the unit.
I ended up owning a 60wpc NEC-A10II - dual JFET monoblocks for 4K. convertible integrated-separate, all sealed alpha pots. Am not using them for now - but will not also sell the unit.
I also have the Au-D607Xdecade, AU-alpha607i, and AU-alpha507i - inspite the abuse it gets from where it is being used - very reliable animals ... and they have captivating glossy piano looks.
Bro, magkano quote sayo ng sony 333es, OK pa ba magbasa?
thanks
recently visited Pier and here are the reports:
there are a few units of Sansui AU 607 just scattered around shops and one AU 607F. A Sony 333ES, Pioneer A980, Aurex SB and there are also Trio's, NEC and LoD's. there are also recently arrived kevlar speakers from onkyo bookshelfs (90db) to floorstanders.
Bro, magkano quote sayo ng sony 333es, OK pa ba magbasa?
thanks
sir hattori_hanzo
i cant really say im new here at pinoydvd. i browsed this site for the past 2 months nah, siguro nga newbie pa. i find each everyone in this site to be very informative and knowledgeable in their stuff. anyway i would like to ask if where is this place? what is its address and how i can get there (if your answer is for me to back track to previous pages, ok ill do that, but incase you can give this tiresome eyes a break of scrolling through each page then i thank you) i would like to check the stuff kc.
another thing is, i am currently using a pioneer stereo amp A-757 and has minor defect that really compromise my listening pleasure. for this reason i wanted to change amp that would suite my listening pleasure both in audio and in HT. i appreciate it if you would point me in the right direction, also if anybody would do the same your my thanks in advance.
Strength is Sometimes Quiet ;)
sir hattori_hanzo
sony 333es - amp o cd ? tnx
sir hattori_hanzo
i cant really say im new here at pinoydvd. i browsed this site for the past 2 months nah, siguro nga newbie pa. i find each everyone in this site to be very informative and knowledgeable in their stuff. anyway i would like to ask if where is this place? what is its address and how i can get there (if your answer is for me to back track to previous pages, ok ill do that, but incase you can give this tiresome eyes a break of scrolling through each page then i thank you) i would like to check the stuff kc.
another thing is, i am currently using a pioneer stereo amp A-757 and has minor defect that really compromise my listening pleasure. for this reason i wanted to change amp that would suite my listening pleasure both in audio and in HT. i appreciate it if you would point me in the right direction, also if anybody would do the same your my thanks in advance.
Strength is Sometimes Quiet ;)
I'm not an expert but I have 2 alpha 907s, a D-907F and an AU-XII and as I've mentioned the alpha 907s sound significantly more powerful than the D-907F and even the AU-XII. Why, I don't know except the original alpha 907 weighs 30kgs. (the imos Ltd weighs 32kgs.) and uses toroid (the D-907s weigh from 20 to 26 kgs. mostly with traditional EI transformers) although the caps rating in alpha is less than 80,000uF which one finds in the D-907s.
Toroids have less weight than EI for the same power rating. For it to be heaveir than an EI, must have greater power rating.
the positive and negative rails will surely give you a definite clue as to power ratings. just to give you examples:
rails of +/- 35volts will give you about 40 watts at 8ohms,
rails of +/- 42volts will give you about 80 watts at 8ohms,
rails of +/- 55volts will give you about 120 wattts at 8ohms,
rails of +/- 75volts will give you about 200 watts at 8 ohms,
rails of +/- 85volts will give you about 300 watts at 8 ohms,
rails of +/- 160 volts will give you about 1500 watts at 8ohms.
so if you look at the filter caps you will surely get an idea as to its power rating.
there is more, the number of output power devices will likewise give you a clue as to the robustness of the power amps, while many amps get by with just a pair for a stereo setup, this indicates that the amp is most likely for 8ohm loads only, amps rated for 4ohms will have more than just a pair of output devices.
just by looking at the Filter Caps, is it safe to say that the working voltage label is about times 2 of the actual?
agreed, but this is not to say that torrroids are better tha EI's... ;D not by a mile... ;D
;D ;D ;D
My dual monoblock NEC is EI !!! :o :o :o
Pahawak AU-D907Limited :-[ :-[ :-[
agreed, but this is not to say that torrroids are better tha EI's... ;D not by a mile... ;D
i hope you will find this interesting. http://www.parasound.com/pdfs/JCinterview.pdf#search='john%20curl%20interview'
BTW, the pier people/sellers label their amps power based on the consumption label at the back
If we're talking about efficiency, they are better by more than a mile.
Can I ask where to buy amplifier just for passive subwoofer?
sir, I have a Sony power amp pwede stereo or mono. pm me if your interested ;D Or are you looking for a subwoofer plate amp?
this is highly debateable, trust me. ;D
the alleged superiority of torroids is nothing but HYPE... ;D me i don't believe everything my professor tells me..it's a case by case basis anyhow ;D
For power supplies at least, the preference of torroids over EI cores is due to size constraints.
the alleged superiority of torroids is nothing but HYPE... ;D me i don't believe everything my professor tells me..it's a case by case
what my professors and textbooks told me 30 years ago ... 40% more efficient than EI type ... ;D
Toroidal Transformers employacylindrical core wound with a copper wire. This transformer does not suffer from magnetic fluxleakages which usually occurin the coil of thetransformer. Hence,thecoils of the toroidal transformers arecharacterized with higher efficiency,and there is no interference in operationby leakage fluxes originating in the coil.
The overall efficiency lies between the E-I core and the toroidal......The toroidal core has no air gap at all, and is therefore more efficient (magnetically speaking)
Because of their construction tape-wound toroidal transformers are more efficient and produce less acoustical and electromagnetic noise than standard E-I transformers.
The strip construction ensures that the grain boundaries are optimally aligned, improving the transformer's efficiency by reducing the core's reluctance. The closed ring shape eliminates air gaps inherent in the construction of an EI core
l chose the Plitron toroidal transformer because of its exceptional bandwidth: -3 dB at over 200 kHz, the result of high primary inductance (the good stuff) and low leakage inductance (the bad stuff-- kind of like HDL and LDL cholesterol)-- much better than can be achieved with a conventional EI transformer.
I probably could go on forever. But this is getting to be a bore. :P
Honestly speaking, I refuse to doubt you.
... I was just talking about efficiency anyway. ... And if you think you've discovered something contradicting what those textbooks, professors and other pundits have written about regarding the superior ... huh, whats that again - EFFICIENCY?
.. And that DIYer has his reasons. Everyone has his reasons for doing what he thinks is right. ...
.. Like I said, someone just might nominate you for a Nobel prize in physics. ;D
... will not change the fact one bit. ;D
Well if you can't get it, that's really not my problem. ;D Feel free to believe what you want. (Though facts are totally below the purview of beliefs.) But who knows, the sun just might rise from the west. ::)
sa Audio Lies and Myth thread ba ang bagsak niyan? ;D ;D ;D
It has higher magnetic flux densities but generally the distribution is non-homogenous that is why the play on the inductance is higher. I would not argue on efficiency with you because there are ways to compensate for magnetic losses. Anyway these losses would not be as significant as semiconductor losses anyway. Also, magnetic losses are not easy to compute. Apart from copper losses other losses are not that apparent. In fact in our loss budgets, we don't even consider magnetic losses. The only thing we consider on magnetics is
1. Saturation
2. Thermals
Now whether using torroids translates to higher efficiencies should be taken in the context of design topology, board space and customer requirement.
The discussions is very meaty indeed!!!
It seems like the concensus among "consumer" knowledge is that torroids are superior to EIs.
see guys, i told you that this is a debateable topic didn't i? ;D
i have built lots of amps using ei's with none of the supposed issues that are associated with it such as noise and stray fields. i have built just one torroid amp with the torroid of my own fabrication and i can not tell the difference is acoustics, only that the torroid has lower magnetizing current. ;D
Makiki-OT ako.
Ano ibig sabihin ng 2x0-25V secondaries? Meaning the tranny can output 0V to 25V? So kung kailangan ko ng 22V pwede kong gamitin ito?
I can understand the aversion of many DIY people with toroids. They are difficult to assemble, and often expensive to source. Anybody can wind an EI. But Toroids require a lot of patience.
22V AC ata. Papuntang rectifier circuit. So, given this situation, what does one do? Voltage divider?
sirs,
just wondering lang po. what if, nauna "nadiskubre" and torroids kesa sa EI core tranny? eh di nasanay na ang mga tao sa torroids at nang dumating ang EI core- uy! mas ok yata ang kwadrado kesa sa donut?! "di kaya hype" and getting into the consumer psyche lang yan? how many times have we heard, maybe even nobel-prize awarded people na dinoktor lang ang mga scientific data etc, pwede at kayang-kaya din doktorin ng mga audio amplifier manufacturers ang mga datus nila?
di kaya ang mas importante eh mahalaga ang suma-total ng produkto (amplifier) kesa kung ano ang ginamit- torroid man o EI? ;D
just my mamera 8)
fyi, torroids came just about the same time as ei's, torroids are not new...
Thanks again, Master JojoD :)
Itodo ko na...
AVR + unregulated psu works like a regulated psu?
TIA TIA TIA :)
Hi,
DIYers don't think like that. It is, most of the time, the DIYers who builds the most difficult projects to assemble - even those projects that everyone else doesn't want to build. DIYers do try and find ways to source out parts, no matter how much it costs. With the prices of copper nowadays, shipping a torroid would be the only expense that may be overboard. ;D
I also agree about the needed patience since I have wound a torroid myself. fortunately, any serious DIYer shouldn't have any patience problem because he/she must be full of it before DIY'ing.
8)
fyi, torroids came just about the same time as ei's, torroids are not new...
hello,
makasingit na nga po...
Yesterday, I espied two kitchensink amps at the pier...
a sansui au-x1 selling for 8.5 walang tawad daw. too high for me. looks dusty and untouched. But it is considered by many to be the finest Sansui amp ever made.
http://www.classicsansui.net/Integrated%20Amplifiers.htm
a pioneer m73 power amp. I am not familiar with this power amp but it was way heavy... may nag downpayment na nga lang daw.
It has higher magnetic flux densities but generally the distribution is non-homogenous that is why the play on the inductance is higher. I would not argue on efficiency with you because there are ways to compensate for magnetic losses. Anyway these losses would not be as significant as semiconductor losses anyway. Also, magnetic losses are not easy to compute. Apart from copper losses other losses are not that apparent. In fact in our loss budgets, we don't even consider magnetic losses. The only thing we consider on magnetics is
1. Saturation
2. Thermals
Now whether using torroids translates to higher efficiencies should be taken in the context of design topology, board space and customer requirement.
Ofcourse there are ways to compensate for the inefficiencies of the EI types. ... The fact that you have to compensate clearly indicates what it is compared with toroid...
The discussions is very meaty indeed!!!
It seems like the concensus among "consumer" knowledge is that torroids are superior to EIs.
Or is it?
Technically no. Both have efficiency greater than 93% or better.
I can understand the aversion of many DIY people with toroids. They are difficult to assemble, and often expensive to source. ... Better still, just pick any engineering textbook about transformers and the same conclusions can be found.
sirs,
just wondering lang po. what if, nauna "nadiskubre" and torroids kesa sa EI core tranny? eh di nasanay na ang mga tao sa torroids at nang dumating ang EI core- uy! mas ok yata ang kwadrado kesa sa donut?! "di kaya hype" and getting into the consumer psyche lang yan? ...
True, but I guess given the choice, many DIYers would go for EI. There's no question that both toroid and EI can do the job. ...
Probably wrong again ... the DIY site where I frequent agree that torroids are easier to build / alter / manipulate to your needs ... probably give the text book title author the page and its content that clearly shows torroids SUPERIOR EFFICIENCY over the EI ... baka sangkatutak na IFs and PROVIDEDs yan.
hello,
makasingit na nga po...
Yesterday, I espied two kitchensink amps at the pier...
a sansui au-x1 selling for 8.5 walang tawad daw. too high for me. looks dusty and untouched. But it is considered by many to be the finest Sansui amp ever made.
http://www.classicsansui.net/Integrated%20Amplifiers.htm
a pioneer m73 power amp. I am not familiar with this power amp but it was way heavy... may nag downpayment na nga lang daw.
This might also be the one that I saw a few weeks ago when I visited the pier. Nakita ko kasi na binalik nung nakabili dahil may problema daw. It took 2 guys to carry the thing ;D Baka naayos na. So kung sino man interesado, be careful na lang. Make sure you properly test it pala wala regrets ;)
tagal na pala torroids pero wala pa yata ako nakitang tube amps na gumagamit ng torroids?
Is this the AU-X1?
Try winding a toroid and try winding an EI. Paikot ikot lang naman EI unlike toroid up and under. You say easier kasi you seldom exceed 2 layers per core whereas on EI you have several layers. However, using a winding machine speeds up the process.
Is this the AU-X1?
True, but I guess given the choice, many DIYers would go for EI. There's no question that both toroid and EI can do the job. But the expense and trouble going for toroid may not be necessary as efficiency is not exactly a priority in many DIY projects. If it is, no DIYer would bother making class A amps, - the most inefficient amp circuit topology there is. ;D Ofcourse like anything else, there are exceptions.
I think this debate on efficiency of EI vs torroid should be laid to rest since most psu designs involving EI and torroid trannies are overrated. Well at least to the DIY'er that is, say we need a max of 300VA, most DIY'ers use 600VA or even higher, talk about efficiency. ;D
I think this debate on efficiency of EI vs torroid should be laid to rest ... talk about efficiency. ;D
I'm reading about capacitors today. How convenient hehehe
How do you determine the value you need?
TIA
Is hold-up time critical? For surplus amps and other applications ;D
Most if not all the bulk e-caps exceed their computed life which is typicall around 5 years assuming 24/7.
When do you use it? How do you determine the value you need?
if one has to go recapped ... mga magkano abuting typically ?
What's the difference between recapping and replacing the caps?
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What's the difference between recapping and replacing the caps?
good question bro. I think it's the same thing. ::)
maybe recapping is reforming? ;D ;D ;D
Akala ko kc iba. Tinanong kc ni aHobbit yung price ;D Reforming nga yung naiisip ko.
What's the highest microfarad value for a filter cap available locally and how much?
Is hold-up time critical? For surplus amps and other applications ;D
That's the common observation. Both by professionals and amatuers, Toroids are difficult to wind. And that is what makes it more expensive, not the core material. I really suggest people try it one of these days to see how "easy" it is even with just one layer over a doughnut ferrite core. ;D But there are actually some techniques I heard that make it easy, just can't recall those.
when voltage levels of the succeeding stage prevents direct coupling, then you use them, or when you are uncertein of what dc voltage your input will see, you better use them.
when more ac gain is required, then you bypass emitter resistors with caps, when you want to roll-off certein frequencies and shape the frequency response of your amp, then you use them.
on dc rectifiers, capacitors are a must, lowers the ripple voltage to almost nil...
the values are determined by certein considerations as voltage levels, ripple requirement and frequency cornering.. ;D
and i end with a note, the best coupling capacitor is no capacitor.... ;D
If you have very little (almost nil) ripple voltage, you will have very little input current going to to main circuits. This is because it is only when the input ac voltage is higher than your bulk voltage is the rectifiers conducting. With very little input current, you will have lower efficiency. So their is a trade-off between ripple voltage and efficiency.
this is beyond my comprehension, hmmm wonder what's on your mind ;D
Tama ba ito? Zero ripple = no need to regulate?
Tama ba ito? Zero ripple = no need to regulate?
Tama ba ito? Zero ripple = no need to regulate?
I post mo kaya sa Audio Karma, sabihin mo $30 lang ang presyo ng good condition TA-5650 dito sa Pinas :D, palagay ko, daming magpapadala sa 'yo ng PM para magpabili!
sobrang mura nyan. i bought my Yamaha B-3 (70wpc rms/8 ohms) at P5K dito sa Davao and i thought it was a bargain!
Well sir, it was humming coming from the body vibrating. Very low lang naman. No speakers. Will try to get the unit and have it checked. Oo nga pala, the fuse always blows. Would it be advisable to bring to Fil-Audio? With schematics naman in case wala silang copy.
Thanks for the info sir Sandawa, Meron kaibahan ang tunog niya as against my Sansui's and my other Sony. Parang airy na masarap naman pakinggan. Will do what you suggest sir sa Vintage Knob at aalagaan ko to. Again thanks.
HT amps of the late 80s are PRO-LOGIC amps that just simulate 4 channels into 4 amps (except for some flagship models that have 5 separate amps) - Left, Right, Center and Surround which makes use of two speaker connections. You won't be able to enjoy the discrete 5 channels of DVD sources, but you can still play them in stereo mode and then swtiching the receiver to prologic mode to simulate 4 channels.
how much ang mga "130 watts" na amp sa pier ... yung 130 ang power consumption..hehehe
anyone knows the number ng Little Chatty ?
you guys might want to check this out. this site has a list of japanese audio gear with pics and model year, some have list prices. altavista translator doesn't work on this site though.
http://www.geocities.jp/freak_audio/AMP.htm
hope to get one of those NEC A-10 or A-11 one of these days.
Hala ka Rene, ang alam ko kukunin ni Parasmi yan. I also got one like that here in Davao two weeks ago and posted it immediately at Audio Karma. I was also lucky with another vintage gem last week: an NEC A-10 Type IV.
you're a very lucky guy. for that price, what you got is the A-400 equivalent: http://www.gbaudio.co.uk/data/a400.htm
congratulation oweidah..
talaga palang matagal nyo ng hanap yang model na yan ano. you were willing to go as much as five digits last year.. ;D
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=36115.0
honeycomb narin pala heat sink nyan..
(http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/7607/auk3vw2.th.jpg) (http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=auk3vw2.jpg)
2.1k? idol.. :D
you're a very lucky guy. for that price, what you got is the A-400 equivalent: http://www.gbaudio.co.uk/data/a400.htm
si parasmi nga ang nag-tip sa akin. baka ayaw niya kasi walang nakalagay na "simple and straight" ;D
pioneer a-uk3 is either the jap version of the a-400 or a-400x, whatever, oks lang ;D
btw, its got 2 sets of speaker terminals marked for biwiring - the top set-HF, the lower set-LF.
got it for 2.1k pero sira yung power button (always ON) no big deal.
tnx mike! :) :) :)
congrats rene! mukhang di mo na pinalampas ang pagkakataon, sugod kaagad sa pier ;D 2.1K??? buena mano price ba? di pa ata nagbubukas si koya nakaabang ka na dun ahihihi
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By the way the domestic version of the A400 or A400X (A-UK3) didn't sell well in Japan as per auction records, roughly 10,000 yen used. I think that reflects the difference in sonic preference of whites and oriental ears and their listening environments. They use heavy bricks in cold and quiet UK homes, while we use lighter materials in our warm and, sometimes, noisy rooms due to airconditioners. That makes a significant difference in my opinion.
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From my previous reading ... due to high real estate cost in Japan ... Japanese do not typically have big homes (like ours or in UK) ... so majority of them are typically near-field listeners ... so choices in Japan have this listening mode in consideration is standard purchases!
Congrats on NEC A-10IV
Rene,
The AU-7700 was the one I was asking you to buy for me from the Pier two years ago. The price, if I remember correctly was also about that range.
Hey guys, went to pier last weekend and got a 1974 SS Amp (Onkyo Integra A-755 MK2 / 70 Stereo Amplifier), hooked it up with my KEFQ1 and NAD C520 CDP and then I played Diana Krall.
The "MK2" caught my attention, anyone has experience with this model? I was blown away after playing Diana Krall, as if she was singing infront of me. The sound became laid back, talk about imaging.
uy! matagal ko na rin pinupuntirya yan kaso wala lang mapaglagyan
http://www.thevintageknob.org/THEVAULT/onkyo1975/onkyo1975.html (http://www.thevintageknob.org/THEVAULT/onkyo1975/onkyo1975.html)
axel (of thevintageknob) is clueless as to what the nII stands for
you'll find the difference between the two at the plala site: http://www11.plala.or.jp/se_ke5583/ONKYO/amp/index.html
The amp in the bottom is the A-755 nII (Though not sure this might be the first release), similar in looks but mine is the MKII. Very happy with this amp ;D. Another member of wiredstate has the same amp A-755 MKII and is also a happy owner. He use this to drive his B&W 601S2 and hooked it up with a Rotel CDP.
Nice find bro ;)
panay kasi post nyo e, madali pa naman ako ma influence ;D ;D ;D.
im back to my old hunting grounds.
uk na uk, superkinis the unit, waiting for me as its' new papa.
mai-set up nga, The HIFI DAT ROCKED THE WORLD!
THE MOST LEGENDARY INTEGRATED DAW.....haayyyyyy
ORAGON SI MIKE!
panay kasi post nyo e, madali pa naman ako ma influence ;D ;D ;D.
im back to my old hunting grounds.
uk na uk, superkinis the unit, waiting for me as its' new papa.
mai-set up nga, The HIFI DAT ROCKED THE WORLD!
THE MOST LEGENDARY INTEGRATED DAW.....haayyyyyy
ORAGON SI MIKE!
Word of advice ... Ingat ka baka wala ka ng paglagyan diyan - ako meron pa ... hehehe ...
Hi Sirs,
I got this Pioneer SA 8800 II (pre-mains) at the pier, I will appreciate it very much if anyone can share their knowledge about this amp...
Hi Karipas
Wait till Sandawa ('Our Vintage Guru Man') provides you the info and links... ;)
...also got one, driving two pairs of Victors(SX-3ii & SX-5ii) in speaker A+B setting.
Clean the pots and the protection relay contacts with 3m contact cleaner (let it dry for a day...).
Clean well the faceplate and the knobs.
What u have there is a good sounding silver-faced beauty..
Enjoy.
Sir Dana,
Thank you and I will do as you suggested. They say that this amp was used by many as a mobile amp. Is this amp a monoblock type because both channels are powered by separate transformers? Wala po bang problema if I use A+B speakers? Ilan po impedance ng mga speakers mo?
Hi Sirs,
I got this Pioneer SA 8800 II (pre-mains) at the pier, I will appreciate it very much if anyone can share their knowledge about this amp. In silver Pioneer site only the SA 8500 II was mentioned although I think both amp seems to be the same in appearance...
Hi Sirs,
I got this Pioneer SA 8800 II (pre-mains) at the pier, I will appreciate it very much if anyone can share their knowledge about this amp. In silver Pioneer site only the SA 8500 II was mentioned although I think both amp seems to be the same in appearance.
I got it for 3.5K. The sound for me was very good and I like the turn over feature (similar to a cross over) at the tone controls, I returned it after a month because of a popping sound on the right chanel and now its again working perfectly fine. I hooked it up in the main-ins of my Accuphase and was able to drive a 360 watter kenwood vintage speakers easily during a party in our office.
pictures:
(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u141/jojo0416/pic_144a.jpg)
(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u141/jojo0416/pic_143a.jpg)
Sir Dana,
Salamat uli. If you are saying your speakers are 6 ohms nominal, di po ba pag nag A+B ka with all 4 speakers @ 6 ohms impedance magiging 3 ohms ang load ng amp? are you saying ok lang ito basta wag ko lang lalakasan masyado so as not to stress the amp?
Very tempting po kasi I set my other amp to drive 1 pair of diamond 8.3 and 8.1 at A+B din, very nice po ang result but my friend told me that I will stress the amp very much in doing so.
Thanks in advance.
Been used to this current set-up of mine for a long time na ;D. This amp, i think can tolerate 4ohms as recommended. Theoretically, i think your correct but speaker impedance is not a fixed value, it varies with frequency. Also, the amp has a built in relay protection circuit that will shut off automatically once it detects 'anomaly'.Medyo nasa wild side nga ng konti but just what I said, evertything in moderation.
thanks
It was conservatively rated at 60wpc, released in Japan in 1977. I own the older model, SA-8800, with only one transformer ...
uk na uk, superkinis the unit, waiting for me as its' new papa.
mai-set up nga, The HIFI DAT ROCKED THE WORLD!
THE MOST LEGENDARY INTEGRATED DAW.....haayyyyyy
ORAGON SI MIKE!
what pre-amps ang ma suggest niyo na maganda for surplus?
These surplus amps can stand on their own just as they were designed to do, there is really no need for external pre-amps as it will just add to a longer signal path. But then if they have this "power amp main input" and "pre-amp output" jacks, then you may try other preamps, just disconnect the amp's preamp and connect an outboard one.
you may try another amps' pre-amp out or if you have a tube pre-amp like the Tono, then you may try it.
what pre-amps ang ma suggest niyo na maganda for surplus?
These surplus amps can stand on their own just as they were designed to do, there is really no need for external pre-amps as it will just add to a longer signal path. But then if they have this "power amp main input" and "pre-amp output" jacks, then you may try other preamps, just disconnect the amp's preamp and connect an outboard one.
you may try another amps' pre-amp out or if you have a tube pre-amp like the Tono, then you may try it.
if I were to get a SS amp, it would be at the pier and not in any audio shop having prices more than 20k.
However, a good dedicated pre-amp is what I am looking for, mapa tube or ss.
I just called my friendly hifi trader who informed me the Denon PRA-1001 preamp was sold Friday afternoon to a member of this forum.
Had asked Superman to buy this pre-amp for me. Thank you sir. I am very grateful....a new toy for being such a good boy ;D
on it's way to Manila by tomorrow...good luck Mel! Enjoy!
Had asked Superman to buy this pre-amp for me. Thank you sir. I am very grateful.
Denon PRA-1001 pre-amp
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d87/rascal101/pra-1001-h.jpg)
aHobbit,
please check your pm. i sent a message to you.
thanks.
audioboy
We dont need pictures ... we need listening impressions! ;D ;D
mga sir,
I've just bought A Victor midi compo last week... it has 3 CD changer and 2 midi disk deck. I would say still good buy ' coz swabeng swabe pa rin yung tunog niya, especially pag yung midi disk ang gamit.
my question is meron pa bang nabibili na midi disk para dito.. have tried to look sa mga SM rcord bar and they said di na raw available.
thanks
Guys, just got this: Denon PMA830 :)
I think this weighs around 18 kilos. All-discrete components. Even the volume pot was a big ALPS (I think its 2"x2"). The toroidal transformer is bigger than a CD. It also has a switch for Class A or Class B Operation, and a direct switch to bypass all tone controls.
Search ko pa sa net ung specs,
Review and specs of the amp here http://denon.jp/museum/products/pma830.html. Use babelfish to translate to english.
Congrats ... mukhang maganda nakuha mo ah ... 1978 model; at 8ohms/20-20k Hz Class B 65wpc/.01%THD ClassA 15wpc/.005%THD ... at 4 ohms 1KHz 90wpc/.02%THD ... DC-100kHz 0/-1 db ... 16kg
http://denon.jp/museum/products/pma830.html
mga sir,
I've just bought A Victor midi compo last week... it has 3 CD changer and 2 midi disk deck. I would say still good buy ' coz swabeng swabe pa rin yung tunog niya, especially pag yung midi disk ang gamit.
my question is meron pa bang nabibili na midi disk para dito.. have tried to look sa mga SM rcord bar and they said di na raw available.
thanks
The toroidal transformer of your Denon treasure is an eye catching behemoth!!!
Congratz!
I have pioneers, onkyos, sansuis, yamaha amps but sadly :( no Denon's (except for a small lowend receiver that is not worth discussing). In fact i know so little about this Brand.
I wonder if somebody can give a short overview of the vintage Denon amplifiers. What are the top of line units, the great series, what should we look out for if we go treasure hunting, etc. ???
Foo
Guys, just got this: Denon PMA830 :)
Took pics while I was cleaning the inside
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l41/kkkram/DSC01986.jpg)
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l41/kkkram/DSC01987.jpg)
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l41/kkkram/DSC01985.jpg)
I think this weighs around 18 kilos. All-discrete components. Even the volume pot was a big ALPS (I think its 2"x2"). The toroidal transformer is bigger than a CD. It also has a switch for Class A or Class B Operation, and a direct switch to bypass all tone controls.
Search ko pa sa net ung specs,
The toroidal transformer of your Denon treasure is an eye catching behemoth!!!
Congratz!
I have pioneers, onkyos, sansuis, yamaha amps but sadly :( no Denon's (except for a small lowend receiver that is not worth discussing). In fact i know so little about this Brand.
I wonder if somebody can give a short overview of the vintage Denon amplifiers. What are the top of line units, the great series, what should we look out for if we go treasure hunting, etc. ???
Foo
Very nice , indeed!
Bakal pa lang, sulit na ...
How much did it cost, sound impressions?
Congrats Reymer!
I also saw a luxman amp there w/ tubes, forgot what model exactly, but looks something like this
(http://www11.plala.or.jp/teikakakucosme/LUXMAN/amp/lv-104u.JPG)
Right now, I'm using a Denon PMA - 780D. Super satisfied ako. It actually has too much power to drive my Mission M72. My bookshelf speakers sound like floorstanders because of the tremendous amount of bass my speakers produce because of the amp. Night and day difference when compared to my Denon 1905 receiver.
Hi guys, I went last saturday sa pier and got this vintage amp Luxman 308 circa 1974 super kinis pa ;)
A very good tube sounding amp I can say..
I'll post the actual pics later.
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/gutchy/luxman308.jpg)
http://luxman.fotopic.net/p8974384.html (http://luxman.fotopic.net/p8974384.html)
Pls check below websites of vintage Japanese audio equipment (amp, speakers, cdp, tuner, tape deck etc).
http://www.niji.or.jp/home/k-nisi/index.html
http://www.thevintageknob.org/index.html
http://www.audio-heritage.jp/
http://amp8.com/
http://www.kameson.com/audio/
To translate, you can use Babelfish
http://babelfish.altavista.com/
Best if you can bring your amp to shop for actual demo on a type of speakers you choose.Thank you rascal101 for your advice. Once again please advice me what is the meaning of: "AB 4-16 Ohms;A+B 8-16 Ohms" shown on speaker connection terminals of amp.
Difficult for me to judge your amp because I've only heard a Trio KA-7004 amp. To me this amp sounded "bright". Although I can be wrong (only used 1 type of speaker). For this case I would choose a dull speaker. Unfortunately for me (since I do not buy nor listen too much on brand new speakers) I could not suggest except for a Wharfedale 9.1 bookshelf speaker.
I've searched for your amp too but could not find anything on the web.
Good luck auditioning speakers.
Thank you rascal101 for your advice. Once again please advice me what is the meaning of: "AB 4-16 Ohms;A+B 8-16 Ohms" shown on speaker connection terminals of amp.
CSV
A, B 4-16 ohms - If you will connect only 1 pair of speakers, the speaker impedance allowed is 4-16 ohms
A+B 8-16 ohms - If you will connect and use 2 pairs of speakers (both A & B), the speaker impedance should be 8-16 ohms, otherwise, you will overload you amp.
Thanks Reymer, one more question, the amp shown only input power: 100V AC 50/60Hz 150W. How can we define or calculate or estimate the output power for speakers will be engaged to. (Speaker impedance as my previous question)
Thanks in advance.
CSV
For integrateds, I was told thats its roughly 1/3 t of the power consumption, so for the 150 watts its about 50 watts per channel....
For integrateds, I was told thats its roughly 1/3 t of the power consumption, so for the 150 watts its about 50 watts per channel....
100V AC 50/60Hz 150W.
Diego is selling his mint-condition A-717 at P5K last week. But his unit is here in Davao. For those interested, you might want to PM him.
Hi Guys,
i have a Pioneer A-717V, the same as the one posted here with the honeycomb heat sink only it has the "V" ???.. can u please give me some points of comparison and comments.. im using this amp for audio and karaoke purposes.. :)
Thanks for the referral sir sandawa. :) Got this unit from Diego. Pristine condition (I'd hate to call this amp surplus) Another beautiful addition to my collection ;D
The A-717 is really a great amp. Its powering my 602s right now & love it. I'm actually looking for another one, so if anybody is selling, pm me. :)
Surplus amp question, what do you use on your surplus amps- regular transformers or the 100V socket of your AVR? What AVR brand has 100V output? Thanks
a friend of mine is selling his OLD (as in LUMA talaga pero mura lang) SANSUI TUBE RECEIVER AMPLIFIER labelled SM1000A it looks like this http://www.sansui.us/images/Tube_Receivers/1000_1.jpg. We opened the cover and i saw these tubes, two small transformers and a big one with this one large blue capacitor just lying but i guess its really there for a cause.. grabe puro alikabok pero sa tingin ko its still all original inside and the tubes, he told me that the tubes are U.S. made, forgot the brand its start with a letter S.. he is seliing this " AS IS" ..i want to buy it, but of course cant just do it without asking help from you guys if this thing is worth restoring if YES, can u please tell me where to bring this or is this just a waste of money and time. ???
tnx a lot :)
diterdi,
tnx a lot :)
ianmorales,
the unit is worth 2k..hindi ba nakakahiya dalhin sa kanila...baka sabihin "ano akala mo sa amin JUNKSHOP" ;D ;D ;D
il try to post the actual picture of the unit later..tnx
At last, after a long search - My first Sansui... ;D
AU-alpha777DG
Excellent condition, 100v but not surplus, built-in DAC, with Original remote control
Rated at 90wpc at 8 ohms, weighs 18.2kg
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I have a Harman Kardon receiver model 730 which I bought from a friend years ago. sold then bought back finding it in fine condition as it was b4 i sold it.
I dont think its a surplus but this forum is turning out to be where you could discuss vintage equips.
Anyone know anything about this receiver?
Separate windings for each channel pero using on the same core = dual mono???
Wala akong magagawa kung iyun ang definition nila. Ngayon kung maraming ganito ginagawa then accepted siguro ng industry. Ang tanong, ilang pa bang kumpanya ganito ginagawa?
Bro, ive seen many amps na ganito ang construction, only 1 big power transformer for 2 channels. (even an Aragon 4004 :(). Maybe this is the reason why some (those with deep pockets :D) opt for monoblocks.
by your leave sir Reymer. the aragon 4004 has two separate, identical transformer. maybe you were referring to the 2004. lifted from "Classic Aragon
amps - A Primer"
Separate windings for each channel pero using on the same core = dual mono???
Wala akong magagawa kung iyun ang definition nila. Ngayon kung maraming ganito ginagawa then accepted siguro ng industry. Ang tanong, ilang pa bang kumpanya ganito ginagawa?
I have just learned that Edrel Sison customizes stepdown transformers with 100V output for use with Surplus Amps. Japanese amp enthusiasts can pm him.
Yes,Edrel makes them. He can even make you a transformer with 100 & 110 volts output with built in primary switch (fuse protected), which makes it more convenient.
Calling all pier surplus owners (amplifiers,refs,& aircons) ;D, you can pm Edrel Sison, a pdvd member.
Look here for Sansui's domestic and international model equivalents:
http://www.sansui.us/Issues_IntvsDomestic.htm
thanks for the info, apparently there is no US version for this amplifier, anyone knows the specs ? Any reviews? I just saw that its a 160 wpc ?
I'm wating with bated breath if its an acquisition or just curiousity. I hope its an acquisition.
why not just rewind the internal transformer, should be cheaper and you no longer need the stepdown transformer
I'm wating with bated breath if its an acquisition or just curiousity. I hope its an acquisition.
Paging Sir Mandrake ... reviews for AU-D907X DECADESorry Mel ngayon ko lang nakita 'to :( Been busy with other stuff...(check my signature) ;D
Oo, yung mga AU-D907XX series na iyan for keeps talaga. Speaking of Sansui, sayang iyung nakita kong AU-X1 sa Pier (a few months ago) at naka-reserve na nun abutan ko. :'(
Sana may lumabas pang ganun at matama sa pagbisita ko.
AU-X1 :o Wow!... type ko din yan. Is this (http://www.sansui.us/images/AUX1/aux1_6.jpg) it sir? How much naman ang quoted price, if you don't mind?
Mandrake, ganda signature natin ah. Di ko pa nasetup ung sakin, istorbo trabaho...;D ;D Tama ka Don... nung nagaaral pa ako istorbo naman ang school ;D ;D
Aba puro Top of the Line Sansuis and pinaguusapan niyo ah...Talagan sinuwerte lang siguro kami... ang ganda ng 9500 ni Don... ang kinis pa... nakakainggit talaga ;D But I've seen fotos of your collection sir.... that's a different level altogether :o
Puro nakakainggit yan guys
sabi ng iba Sansui ay sansunog daw? totoo ba e2? ::) ::)
4me don't believe depende sa paggamit yan. .. ;D ;D
i owned a repair shop in the late 80's up to 1994 before working as an OFW, 90% of the amps that went in to my shop were sansuis' that is why the term sansunog was coined by bert, also a shop owner in raon...at that time most of the units came from saudi, plastic sides, gray metal tops, lawanit bottoms, silver facia..
problem then was the prolifiration of fake replacement transistors, which burnt out as soon as we put them in.
bottom line, brand alone does not tell much about a product, there are products for the mass market at low prices, there are products for export, and then there are high-enders, top of the line.
except for the 100volt ac ratings, i would say amps from the pier belongs to the upper class of japanese manufacture...
finally let us not forget those owners, who for not knowing any better, punish and push their amps to the limits...they have the biggest hand in all this... ;D
Got this babies last saturday sa bodega surplus shop sa Malabon... Onkyo Liverpool D-200II... ang masasabi ko lang, panalong-panalo at its price,,, it's a steal!!! hehehe ;)
Meron lang mga minor scratches, konting dent dun sa isang tweeter, pisa pareho yung black sa gitna nung speeker (di ko alam kung ano tawag dun e) and wala na yung cover ng speeakers w/c is mas ok tingnan,imo :D
But lahat ng ito ay walang masamang epekto sa napaka-gandang tunog nya at elegante pa rin tingnan ;) ;) ;)
here's the link... ganyang-ganyan pag walang cover ;)
http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/96649078
anyone here na may idea sa current price nito??? :)
Sir dapat sa surplus speakers ito.
Aba puro Top of the Line Sansuis and pinaguusapan niyo ah...
Puro nakakainggit yan guys... Sir Dana congratz on ur au9500, I have a little brother of that model, an AU7500 lang and its quite good already and to think the 9500 is THE BEST of the series. Nice...
I also have an aud707xdecade and its very very good. The x907xdecade must really kick ass!!!
Tama ka Sir Mandrake, mahirap na magsalita ;D
Oo, yung mga AU-D907XX series na iyan for keeps talaga. Speaking of Sansui, sayang iyung nakita kong AU-X1 sa Pier (a few months ago) at naka-reserve na nun abutan ko. :'(
Sana may lumabas pang ganun at matama sa pagbisita ko.
To generalize that the Sansui AU-XII has a reliability problem is wrong. I have been using one in my living room for four years now and no problem whatsoever.
...
I was just using a Luxman m120a and a Sony VFET TA5650 the past weeks with a Yamaha NS1000m.
I still love the Luxman M120a... but somehow, with the the Yamaha monitor...the VFET (just recently replaced with new crystal diodes and the bias adjustted) is a more astounding amplifier. I can't bring myself yet to reconnect the Luxman m120a to recheck my comparison with the VFET.
congrats then, it survive those years!
I may not experience it first hand ... but the analysis is grim ... not because it has bad design flaws ... but in fact, it is too fast an amplifier ... too fast for its own disadvantage ... ready to oscillate at small signal anomaly ... but rascal have good reason ... indeed a work of art to brag about ... unusual size, seldom you can see, and the parts worthy to keep ... would rather have the 907MOS though ;D ... if you spot another, kindly alert me and will readily fly davao that very day ;D Pier is not as exciting as before in terms of good heavyweight amps ... been there many times lately, and typically, is now a waste of time browsing the area.
...
There are still a few unsold but interesting mint units I saw here:
Victor A-X1000 http://www.niji.or.jp/home/k-nisi/a-x1000.htm
Pioneer A-900 http://www.niji.or.jp/home/k-nisi/a-900.html and
Sansui alpha 607XR http://www.audio-heritage.jp/SANSUI/amp/au-alpha607xr.html
The price I think is from P6K to P7K. If anyone is interested, I'll get the phone numbers of the shopowners. I don't want to be a third party -- I'm too busy for that.
aHobbit, for being a true and consistent hifi enthusiast, I'm taking your post seriously. I'm running out of space here in Davao and I would probably yield, just for you, on the next alpha 907 arrival here. Who knows? We could even get one of those rare items cheap. Or, if you want, I could buy it, then swap with your NEC a-10.
There are still a few unsold but interesting mint units I saw here:
Victor A-X1000 http://www.niji.or.jp/home/k-nisi/a-x1000.htm
Pioneer A-900 http://www.niji.or.jp/home/k-nisi/a-900.html and
Sansui alpha 607XR http://www.audio-heritage.jp/SANSUI/amp/au-alpha607xr.html
Thanks for inquiring, but no way will I sell any of my two alpha 907s, unless I get another one -- that I could exchange for your NEC a-10.
BTW, the original alpha 907 still sells at $500 in Japan now (same as a-10) while the i-Mos Ltd. is quoted roughly $800.
Victor A-X1000 looks very good, quite impressive. The Pioneer A-900 looks ordinary but has separate transformers. The Sansui alpha 607XR looks no different from new production AVRs you see in AV shops, poging pogi parang brand new, but comparatively heavy about 20 kgs. Haven't heard any of them but based on current resale price in Japan, if I have the space for a new big amp, it would be the Victor.
My eye is also on that victor! 150wpc/8ohms :o
Hi Sir a Hobbit,
if your amp rated 150wpc/8ohms, what must be the rating of your speaker that is enough to be paired with this amp? And if i am going to use a speaker with this kind of rating, 40watts-150watts max/6 ohms, what will happen? Thanks ;)
Chances are:
(1) you will just be listening at 2-10 watts power
(2) 6 ohms does not matter, its OK
(3) your speaker is safe
(4) if you pump at 40W, the sound may still be clean from the amp, but your speaker is already distorted
(5) if you are experimenting beyond 40W, you may have more diaphragm than what you wanted (I mean, they will be in pieces ;D )
Seriously, there is no problem with your proposition. There is more issue having low power amp to a high powered speaker. ;)
Thanks sir sandawa, i'm planning to go to pier this coming saturday, sana available pa sila... would you know kung saang store sila sa pier? or can you give me their number, inquire ako about these amp. Thanks ;)
Sir Weng,
My Brother knows a bit about electronics. He didn't actually repair the Sony 5650. What he did was follow the Service Manual instructions (and reading on the net regarding the vfets0 on how to adjust the bias and dc offset setting of the amplifier which has strayed from the factory settings from the time the unit was produced. Then he replaced the diodes which AK gurus claim are the cause of permanent damage to the transistors. It is said that if the VFETs are gone, the amplifier is just a Huge Paperweight. He still has my 4650 which was already adjusted but still has problematic pre-amp section.
Actually, he didnt follow the advice of the AK gurus exactly who recommend a bias setting above 0. He set it to full 0 to totally avoid the heating problems.
By the way I have a soft copy of both 5650 and 4650 service manuals if you are interested. Your technicians will need these to work on the vfets. My brod couldnt do anything about the adjustment till he obtained a copy of the SM's.
Also, my brod mentioned that although the 5650 is more powerful than the 4650, he connected the power amp section to another pre-amp to bypass the problematic preamp of the vfet to test the unit.
He claims that the 4650 sounded as good as the 5650. It is thus a rare unit that deserves restoration.
Now as to whether he will accept non-brother projects, i still have to check with him.
I am based in Quezon City.
Foo
I see, low amp to hi speaker = bad
hi amp - low speaker = good
i was thinking the other way around kasi, parang pag tinodo mo yung volume ng hi powered amp sa low powered speaker, susunugin nya ang speaker mo (my belief before) hehe ;D
So oks lang pala buy ko yung victor a-x1000 pag inabutan ko pa sa pier :)
Thanks and God Bless Sir aHobbit ;)
OT: Bro ledrach, pumapasok pa ba si jen? kulitin mo na, malapit na umalis yan :)
Dito sa Davao available yan, hindi dyan sa Maynila. The shop selling the Victor A-X1000 had a price tag of P7K on it yesterday (it's been on display for two weeks already). The tag price was removed today, so I guess it would go at P6K. Sana walang makabasa nito na taga Davao, otherwise -- wala na yan sa araw ng suweldo :(
Anybody got a hold of NEC-A10II schematics? I am taking the lead of LordFoo - indeed a useful information.
Masusunog naman talaga ang speaker mo pag tinodo! :o But (like pagputi ng uwak will never happen) if you are using it for listening, 10 watts is almost ear breaking level or distortion (for low power speaker) for decent sensitivity speakers, and you may not want more than that level. And there is no telling that when you make todo, it will not hit what we call clipping conditions (giving you DC voltage, and will put your amp in a short circuit condition, burning your speaker earlier than it can burn your amp).
The reason you should be more cautious with low-power amp is that you can easily reach the clipping condition in them than with a high power amp! The speakers are more tolerant of power handling provided they continue to vibrate within its limits, otherwise the cone cant vibrate anymore to the dictates of the power, and at its cone vibration limits (extreme up or down), it is in short circuit condition, either burning your speaker (typically earlier) or your amp (seldom happens) or just reproducing your cones into many pieces ;D
I remember my college days when me and my brother tried to destroy a 10-watter Micro speaker, justifying a purchase of new ones, by subjecting it to high power amps and make it vibrate (in a listenable fashion) hard. We failed to bring the speaker to its knees! ;D
Then recently I got hold of a 3 watter national speaker (10incher). Pinahiram ko sa clown with a JVC mini compo at 70wpc para daw sa celebration, anak ng tokneneng, di na kuntento sa lakas (bingi yata), distorted na tunog, gusto pa daw niya itodo, e di na gumagalaw ang level sa display ng JVC (meaning todo na talaga! >:( ), ayun, lasug lasog yung diaphragm ng ibalik sa akin. Clown talaga! ;D
But we are talking here of 3watter. It was burned not because it received more power than what it can take, but because the amp reached a clipping condition!
Sir Weng,
My Brother knows a bit about electronics. He didn't actually repair the Sony 5650. What he did was follow the Service Manual instructions (and reading on the net regarding the vfets0 on how to adjust the bias and dc offset setting of the amplifier which has strayed from the factory settings from the time the unit was produced. Then he replaced the diodes which AK gurus claim are the cause of permanent damage to the transistors. It is said that if the VFETs are gone, the amplifier is just a Huge Paperweight. He still has my 4650 which was already adjusted but still has problematic pre-amp section.
Actually, he didnt follow the advice of the AK gurus exactly who recommend a bias setting above 0. He set it to full 0 to totally avoid the heating problems.
By the way I have a soft copy of both 5650 and 4650 service manuals if you are interested. Your technicians will need these to work on the vfets. My brod couldnt do anything about the adjustment till he obtained a copy of the SM's.
Also, my brod mentioned that although the 5650 is more powerful than the 4650, he connected the power amp section to another pre-amp to bypass the problematic preamp of the vfet to test the unit.
He claims that the 4650 sounded as good as the 5650. It is thus a rare unit that deserves restoration.
Now as to whether he will accept non-brother projects, i still have to check with him.
I am based in Quezon City.
Foo
NEC-A10II schematics
1. what are the difference between Integrated Amp, Power Amp, T-Amp and Pre-Amp? medyo lito ako sa terminologies ng mga amp e.
the flow of music signal:
CD player --> pre-amp --> power amp --> speaker
Integrated amp is the combination of pre-amp & power amp
T-amp is another breed of amplifier implementation (just search the net)
Sonic T-amp (the usual focus of discussion being addressed generically as T-amp) is another integrated amp in a small package.
2. i'm using a yamaha receiver (rxv440), pwede ba ako magkabit ng amp sa receiver ko, sa subwoofer out ba ng a/vr ko ba pwede ikabit? anong klaseng amp ang pwede, pre-amp lang o lahat ng klase ng amp.
technically, the sub out is an output of your receiver's sub preamplifier. ideally, power amp should be plugged into it. but you can also connect integrated amp (just watch out the level). Subwoofer like DTX has just power amp in it. Of course, it will only produce low frequency.
3. pag may nakakabit na amp sa receiver ko, dapat dun na lahat nakakabit sa amp yung mga spker pati subwoofer?
No. Only the low frequency driver (passive or unpowered subwoofers) should be on that external amp (it only produces low frequency being a sub out)
biasing amps are done to meet certein distortion characteristics, specs if you will...vfets or mosfets can be run hot becuase unlike bipolar transistors, they do not suffer from secondary breakdown.
that you can not detect any difference between a hot running amp, and a cooler one, reinforces the fact that distortion levels are barely discernible...if you measure distortion with a THD meter, surely figures will show that distortion is higher in a cooler amp than that which run hot ....
besides, there are advantages to running the amps cooler, it means longer life for the unit... ;D
BTW, Are you still in russia?
@little chatty
guys u may wanna check out - LOD ha6800 mosfet amp 3.5k daw
@little chatty
guys u may wanna check out - LOD ha6800 mosfet amp 3.5k daw
I was in Pier last saturday, bought a Denon CD Player. I just sold my Musical Fidelity Elektra a couple of weeks ago and Ive been using my Pioneer DVD as my transport. Anyway this CDP I chanced upon is heavily built, weighs about 2x a regular CD Player and the sound . .WOW! It can go head to head with my previous Musical Fidelity.
Hi Sirs,
I was at our favorite mall last Wed to have one of my amp repaired. I saw a Pioneer amp M-73. I was contemplating to get it but it was not yet in my budget. Hello price of 6K with 100V 500W transformer included.
http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://www.audio-heritage.jp/PIONEER-EXCLUSIVE/amp/m-73.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3DPioneer%2BM-73%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Dactive%26sa%3DN (http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://www.audio-heritage.jp/PIONEER-EXCLUSIVE/amp/m-73.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3DPioneer%2BM-73%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Dactive%26sa%3DN)
Just sharing in case anybody of you is interested.
im using Wharfedale MFM3 100watts 2 way tower.mas ok tumunog ung technics than my yamaha rx-v550 sa music.
what can u suggest na mas ok na ipair ko d2 na speakers
Mga Sir,
Got my 1st vintage AMP (finally), its a SANSUI G7500... just want to know what's the best speaker I should paired with this AMP..
(http://www.classicsansui.net/images/Sansui%20G7500-front.jpg)
thanks
congrats, that amp is among the best sounding amps i have ever heard.....it's got plenty of power, pairing it with any speaker should be very easy...
Mga Sir,
Got my 1st vintage AMP (finally), its a SANSUI G7500... just want to know what's the best speaker I should paired with this AMP..
(http://www.classicsansui.net/images/Sansui%20G7500-front.jpg)
thanks
Wow, mabeauty ah !!! hip na hip
That's a rare model for the Private A-X series, which is more like Pioneer's low-priced line. Here's a reference for used pricing (the values are in yen) of its nearest model, Private A-X740: http://yackdb.s138.xrea.com/auview.php?m=A-X740
got this alpine luxman lv-103u hybrid tube-ss, sounds very sweet, any body knows what tubes are used here? ;D
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb299/docsialu/IMG_0837.jpg)
got this alpine luxman lv-103u hybrid tube-ss, sounds very sweet, any body knows what tubes are used here? ;D
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb299/docsialu/IMG_0837.jpg)
Mga Sir,
Got my 1st vintage AMP (finally), its a SANSUI G7500... just want to know what's the best speaker I should paired with this AMP..
thanks
di ba yan sir yung "MACHO" dun sa B/S section? Kayo nakakuha... galing! hehe!
Maganda siguro i-pair jan Dyna Audio since they are hard to drive speaker
nope, kapatid na bunso lang 'to yung nasa B/S yun yung kuya...
20-25 kilos lang ang sa akin.. yung G9000 nasa 30kilos yata..
i have a g-5500 which is the lower sibling of your receiver. im using it to drive a dynaaudio audience 5. sounds good. :)
much better siguro sir, kung pupunta ako sa place mo.. para naman makita ko set-up mo at mapakinggan at G-series sa dyna audio.. marami ang nagsasabi sa kin yan daw ang dapt gamitin ko sa G-7500 ko.. kaso wala pa me budget ngayon.. naubos na nung supplier natin ;D ;D ;D
BTW may Sansui AU-777 sa market place.. d b kursunada mo yun? ;D
got this alpine luxman lv-103u hybrid tube-ss, sounds very sweet, any body knows what tubes are used here? ;D
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb299/docsialu/IMG_0837.jpg)
Hi Sirs,
May I ask how much this baby cost you dyan sa atin for comparison? I am here in Canada and somebody is selling his LV-105 at Php 12600. I just want to know if its worth it. I heard an LV 103U before hence I know its a sounding nice amp.
Thanks.
sir familiar po ba kayo sa vintage luxkit a3300 tube preamp? may nagbenta po sakin kaya lang wala pala power supply yun. ang power connector po nya ay 8 pins. ok po ba performance nito at saan po kaya pwede magpagawa ng power supply?
I had a very limited time to listen to the Technics SE-A5. Comparing it with my ST70, my initial impression is it delivers more details, especially in the mids and highs frequencies. The bass is likewise tighter. Maybe because of the 120 watts per channel power it packs.
However, the st70 is still "mas mataba", although the difference is that that big. The ST70, moreover, delivers a warmer sweeter sound.
I like st70 for music that are more laid back (jazz and standard), and the Technics for music that are livelier (rock and pop). The Technics maybe more versatile.
For me it is still too early for me to tell which amp I prefer, I hope that his helps.
Gears used:
Preamp: Dynaco Pas 3 Preamp
CDP: Onkyo Liverpool (surplus)
TT: Technics 1200 Mk 2 (courtesy of Blondie)
IC: DIY silver interconnects
speaker cables: Monster cables (I do not know the model)
speakers: Boston Acoustics T830 (floorstanding)
Monitor Audio Bronze 2
Anyone here who has been to the pier lately? Meron bang mga good buys na surplus amps? Paki post naman mga brands/model and their prices. Thanks in advance! ;) ;)
Hi Brubeck,
I got it here in Canada for Php10K on the prevailing CAD to Php rate and compared to the receivers na nabenta BS section di naman masyado malayo price kaya kinuha ko na. Madami nagbebenta dito but of course di hamak na pinakamura sa surplus mall natin, too bad wala na din gano interesting dun. I visited the place before leaving last Nov maidagdag sa basura ko kaso wala na talaga.
Happy hunting on the Sansui and Pioneer. IMHO (at least on the units I have) Sansui is a warm sounding amp and Pioneer is in the bright side and I like both. Try reaching Sir Bhongskie, he sells a lot of good gears at the BS. Our friend Dana here has quite interesting vintage collections of both Sansui and Pioneer.
GRAAABEEE.. mula Pilipinas,hanggang Canada, ayaw tumigil.. nice catch sir, been longing to have one like that..for 10K, i would say..jackpot :o.. hirap maghanap nyan d2, kahit sa US..$300 or up pa ang price..Congratz 8)
Hi Brubeck,
I got it here in Canada for Php10K on the prevailing CAD to Php rate and compared to the receivers na nabenta BS section di naman masyado malayo price kaya kinuha ko na. Madami nagbebenta dito but of course di hamak na pinakamura sa surplus mall natin, too bad wala na din gano interesting dun. I visited the place before leaving last Nov maidagdag sa basura ko kaso wala na talaga.
Happy hunting on the Sansui and Pioneer. IMHO (at least on the units I have) Sansui is a warm sounding amp and Pioneer is in the bright side and I like both. Try reaching Sir Bhongskie, he sells a lot of good gears at the BS. Our friend Dana here has quite interesting vintage collections of both Sansui and Pioneer.
not bad for the price and according to bong, rare yan so well done karipas :-) sarap nyan when you open it up and discover na pristine pa sya, untouched :)
sold na daw po 2 weeks ago yung marantz 4300. sayang!
mga bro, anong magandang panglinis ng body ng amp para magmukhang bago? lalo na siguro sa mga surplus amps na kailangan pakintabin.yung iba kasi alloy body at yung iba kasi painted ng black diba, any experienced mga bro? gusto ko kasi magmukhang bago yung old amp ko na kulay black.thanks
sir bongskicool, anong MC? one of my friend also recommend car wax
Bro,
MC cleaner or Wipe out, usually nabibili sa mga sm hardware ito for cleaning appliance and others.
;D
bro, be careful in using wipe out, yan ang usually na nagiging dahilan kaya nabubura ang mga letra sa faceplate, MC's fine.
Got This
Very Sweet Sounding amp. although its only 60watts per channel but make my B&W 602 sing...with ease
(http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/741/hma6500wy8.jpg)
Lo-D Power Amp. Power Mosfet technology
You guys are really lucky to get those amps at surplus prices. They were also my dreams when starting out in this hobby decades ago like the early Onkyo Integra M-class power amps with those huge VU meters and those from Technics and Luxman. Properly cared for, they are timeless, both as works of art and performance. Just reading their specs show how relatively pathetic the power amp sections in most HT receivers have these days.
Anyone seen this at the pier? The Onkyo Integra M504?
(http://images.craigslist.org/01020401160201041220080124fa0984f2e94f9f30bd006f86.jpg)
Got ThisSir, gaganda pa yan! look for lod hca 6800 preamp
Very Sweet Sounding amp. although its only 60watts per channel but make my B&W 602 sing...with ease
(http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/741/hma6500wy8.jpg)
Lo-D Power Amp. Power Mosfet technology
someone might interested in this one saw this posted on buyandsellSayang din! But if anyone of you can find a Marantz 2385 na receiver WOW! kahit ano speaker kabit nyo.
Happy Hunting... ;)
MARANTZ RECEIVER 4,500 mdl 4300.743-3074
Sir rodel5,
Ganda ng new amps nyo, Sir! And naka B&W speakeakers ka na rin! Congrats! :)
romymartinez
Sir, gaganda pa yan! look for lod hca 6800 preamp
VU meters you say? i like them too ;D
SANSUI BA2000
(http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7093/ba2000me8.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
sir rodel5, hope you find one :)
Lo-D HMA9500
(http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/7388/hma02uc5.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
this two amps are in my wish list.. southpeak, i know i can't have those beauties.. ano ang pagkakaiba nilang dalawa sa tunog??? thanks po.
Anyone seen this at the pier? The Onkyo Integra M504?
(http://images.craigslist.org/01020401160201041220080124fa0984f2e94f9f30bd006f86.jpg)
mb88, few weeks back pier area has the two amps you mention. little chatty has the ongkyo 506R, and the A5 is across the other side of their street.. better luck next time.
sir did you ask how much they're asking for the 506 and the A5? please PM me , TIA
Good day,
is there any websites that can give me more information regarding the vintage marantz sr9000g, tnx in advance
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb299/docsialu/MarantzSR90002.jpg)
@allan
Sir, I bought theForeplay pre-owned from the PDVD marketplace. It was originally planed to be paired with the Trends Audio TA-10.1. Hooked to a vintage late 60s Pioneer 3 way speakers with 12" woofers, the preaamp+TA-10.1 combo sounded great, better than the Trends TA-10.1 without the pre-amp. As my wife put it, mas malinis tumunog. Then a frined (also a fellow PDVDer) loaned me a tube power amp, a single ended EL34, and to me the all tube combo sounded way better than the Trends TA-10.1+preamp. Up to moderate listening level, the Trends TA-10.1+preamp sounded a bit better overall than the Sony TA-3200F+preamp, but the Sony TA-3200F starts to shine as you crank up the volume. :)
I've been living in Munoz, Nueva Ecija for the last 23 years. And BTW, I'm newbie on this addictive audio hobby. :)
Sir, thanks for the short review. :) Hope to try a foreplay intg. amp someday! ;D
I havent encountered an M504 but I have seen an Onkyo Integra M506 at the pier around two years ago and it was sold for P8K. I was able to buy an Onkyo Integra M506R (newer) elsewhere for P5k before that. Very handsome looking amp with large black meters with green lights. Very powerful amp with two sets of speaker outputs rated at 120wpc. Performance is very much like the Technics SEA 5 also rated at 120wpc
Good day,
is there any websites that can give me more information regarding the vintage marantz sr9000g, tnx in advance
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb299/docsialu/MarantzSR90002.jpg)
@ reynold,
its from a friend, inawitan ko ng matindi kaya binigay na rin, hehe
Congrats, swerte mo, matagal na rin akong naghahanap ng mga ganitong gears, still no luck, hehe ;D
swerte lang mga tol, hehe
Sir jojo? bakit tinawag na "hooters"? ;D
Congrats Sandy...nice catch.
Is yours really in champagne gold faceplate and wood housing?
Kelan ba tayo makarinig nyan. :)...
docsialu wrote;
here it is, though its also sr 9000g it looks quite different from the picture on the net because the wood cover in mine envelopes the cham;pagne face compared with the one one the net where the wood cover does not extend beyond the metal face plate.
bakit kaya hindi pareho? pirated ata itong sakin, hehe
pirated nga yan... benta mo na lang sakin yan!! ;D ::)
sir bawal magbenta ng pirated dito sa pinas, kaya i-donate mo na lang sa akin yan at tatanggapin ko, sabay dasal ng pasasalamat syo ;D ;) ;D
mga tol, maganda rin pala ang tunog ng mga vintage na amps sa mas mababang presyo pa compared with the new production ones, ewan ko lang kung mahaba pa ang buhay nito, kasing tanda ko na ito eh, hehe
mga tol, maganda rin pala ang tunog ng mga vintage na amps sa mas mababang presyo pa compared with the new production ones, ewan ko lang kung mahaba pa ang buhay nito, kasing tanda ko na ito eh, hehe
IMO, before going to tubes all the way, better to hear a nicely maintained vintage SS gear at baka magulat ka or di mo lan talaga matanggap ;D :o ::) dahil kailangan mo sumabay sa uso/fad at gusto ng madlang people. ;D...(not directed at you but in general
di ba mas matanda pa mga tube gears (mga vintage)type na kinalolokohan ng iba and yet still working ;D?
IMO, before going to tubes all the way, better to hear a nicely maintained vintage SS gear at baka magulat ka or di mo lan talaga matanggap ;D :o ::) dahil kailangan mo sumabay sa uso/fad at gusto ng madlang people. ;D...(not directed at you but in general :)....)
besides, these vintage gems have witnessed the golden era of audio and somewhat created a cult following from hobbyist and collectors due to their built -like a tank & good SQ reputation.try to browse in audiokarma site, dami naloloko dun sa vintage SS, not only in tube gears.
what can be done is recapping of electrolytic parts (specially those in the psu...) since they have reached somewhat their lifespan as I understand...however, sa ibang forum (audiokarma),they debate these... for the other parts, transistors, ics etc...with proper design and operating points, they will last many years (as I undertand from readings...)...baka nga mauna ka pa sa kanila ;D
matibay ang mga yan at hindi pahuhuli sa mga plastic looking new production models.
the circuits in new production models mostly, are nothing new ...(mostly adapted and sometimes improved upon based from these vintage SS gears...).
maybe, retro is a lifestyle too. some may be attracted with their gleaming thick aluminum knobs, etc. have some vintage ss gears too, mostly never been touched except for some minor maintenance (pot cleaning, resolder some points,dusting etc) & TLC.trying to play them all on rotational basis or depende sa mood for different flavors & characters. appreciate the history, engineering and science in these audio toys.
enjoy your 'bakal' :)
Actually you have a point sir dana, kelangan lang talaga tayo maging open minded, dati kasi parang naging fixated ako sa tubes, pero when i got the marantz parang it opened up a whole new world of experience for me.
btw diba meron kang heavy duty na sansui? ung kulay dark grey? d ko rin makalimutan ang tunog nun, ang ganda nun, post mo nga pic dito, ;D
got another vintage amp Lo-D HMA 8500
(http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3716/269212nq9.jpg)
Another collector's item. HMA-8500 currently sells up to $400 used in Japan. How much did you buy it?
ganda naman nito sir... please reserved ;D ;D
sir Pa-pm naman kung how much score 'mo.. if you dont mind ;)
got another vintage amp Lo-D HMA 8500
(http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3716/269212nq9.jpg)
congratulation sir. very nice find. if its not too much to ask, could we have a peek inside?... pam pa-high ng konti ;D
Master rodel,tsamba lang ulet.mataba tumunog and bilog,ewan ko kung tama ung description ko ;D
Ganda! Congrats! :)
Pa-pm din price. :)
And pa reserve next in like kay brian_mico, heh heh, joke. :)
Nice power amp Sir. Even sa Japan naglalaro sa 30,000 to 40,000 yen ang auction value.
http://yackdb.s138.xrea.com/auview.php?m=hma-8500 (http://yackdb.s138.xrea.com/auview.php?m=hma-8500)
romymartinez
Hi guys, Can you suggest a good but kinda cheap (cause im in a tight budget) receiver? Im into movies,And here is my setup:
HTIB :
Nextbase HM080 5.1
Product Detail:
• 160W RMS Total Power Output: Sub—60W (RMS); Satellite Speakers—20W x 5 (RMS)
• 4 Input Selector (3-Stereo and 1-5.1 channel)
• Dolby Prologic
• Individual Volume Control
• Output Mode: 2.0, 2.1, and 5.1
http://techpoint.com.ph/detail.php?br=1&cat=002&pid=2224
DVD player:
NB-831 5.1 Ch DivX DVD Player
Product Detail:
• 5.1 CH DivX DVD Player with USB Slot
• Compatible with DivX, MPEG4, DVD, SVCD, VCD, MP3, CD, CD-R, CD-RW, DVD+RW, & Kodak Picture (JPEG)
• Dual Karaoke Function
• NTSC & PAL Auto Recognition TV System
• Advance MDDi Progressive Scan/ Composite/ S-Video Output
• Dolby Digital Decoder
• Optical/ Coaxial Digital Audio Output
• 5.1 Ch/ Stereo Analog Audio Output
• Auto Voltage Adjustment
Nakaka experience ako ng paminsan minsang (spark sound ) or yung parang sumabog na sound sa mga front and sometimes sa sorround speakers.. And i hope na mawawala yung tunog sa pag lagay ko ng receiver.
setup ko is: HTIB > DVD player > TV
Pls help guys. Thanks
sir sell ur nextbase HTIB then dagdag mo sa pambili ng receiver.yamaha madaming nagbebenta,baka makatsamba k pa ng mura
try mo d2 mag abang
http://pinoybazaar.forumotion.com/a-v-bazaar-f4/ (http://pinoybazaar.forumotion.com/a-v-bazaar-f4/)
sir eto,not actual pic pero same condtion and internals.
bridgeable pa
(http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/707/850017ag1.jpg)
Cge pm ko syo.kaya lang baka ma shock ka. ;D
tsamba lang ulet.mataba tumunog and bilog,ewan ko kung tama ung description ko
cge pm ko din syo price.super mura lang kc,hint.mga one third lang ng price ng technics SE A5 sa pbazaar and ws.
beautiful !! 8).. thank you sir. you made my day.. :)
tutal naman no plan to sell.4K lang :'(
tutal naman no plan to sell.4K lang :'(
tutal naman no plan to sell.4K lang :'(
Bilhin ko ng 6K, hahaha ;D
Congrats bro, ganda :)
Saw one near sa "suking tindahan" about 2 weeks ago but was not in good condition. One VU meter is busted and one pair of rca line in at the back is missing. :( At nung naglakad lakad pa ako, I saw another one (same LOD 8500) in another store in better condition but when I ask (excitedly!) how much, ang sabi sakin nung nagbabantay... pagawa lang daw yon at not for sale. :'( Napansin ko nga, repair shop pala yun store. :-[
tsamba lang ulet.mataba tumunog and bilog,ewan ko kung tama ung description ko ;DRodel sana naman dumiskarte ka walang sinasagasaan.
cge pm ko din syo price.super mura lang kc,hint.mga one third lang ng price ng technics SE A5 sa pbazaar and ws. ;D
Rodel sana naman dumiskarte ka walang sinasagasaan.anong sagasa cnasabi mo?niyayabang ko ba item ko?ayan o ang linaw na cnabi ko na un nga ung nakita ni allan sa pier db,and no plan in selling it kaya cnabi ko presyo.parang wala akong nakitang cnagasaan kita.ung pag compare ng price dahil halos identical kc ung item na may VU meter.and hint lang ng hinihirit nilang presyo.masyado namang malisyoso isip mo. ???
Old timer ako ng Pier, at alam ko na ke De Lara mo nabili iyan. Kilala ko yung apo
ni De lara na mahaba ang buhok na maputi na puro tato at parang
Guns and Roses ang dating dahil ang laking lalake.Mula sapier, pumuwesto sa
Aurora blvd. Cubao. Tama si allan at nakita rin marahil ni allan iyan.
Kulay lumang brown at pungok ang likod , saliwa ang RCA connector
sa likod, at dudumi ng mga meter na kumbinasyon ng red at green.
Sana ipakita mo ung tunay na outlook niyan pati likod at hindi ung ibang
litrato.
Ang Isa pang binebenta kong SE -A 5 ay nabili ng isang may kaya
nating member sa pier Duon Malapit Kay Rover, ng Halagang P18T. At
kahit i verify pa ng mga member kay Rover kung Tutuo ang mga sinasabi
ko. Ibenta niya sa akin ng medyo palugi at ibinebenta ko katumbas ng
nakuha sa akin ni Chito (RPM). Palagay ko naman insulto sa ating isang
member na talagang masasabi kong talagang mayaman, at hindi basta
basta bumibili ng surplus.
Sana kunan mo ng Webcam iyong nakuha mo ke De Lara, bago
mo ikumpara duon sa binili ng ating member na P18T , Diyan din
sa Pier.
Maraming Maraming Salamat duon sa nag Tx sa akin.
At Maraming salamat din sa iyo Rodel.
yup eto nga un,pero may loose hinang lang.working well naman and ganda tumunog.i opened the face cover and re-solder the loose wire and with the help of WD40 sprayed on the socket ayun gumana na.happy together na kami :D Hmmpp...makatambay nga dun sa repair shop na un,abangan ko may ari,offeran ko na bilhin.para d naman malungkot ung isa d2. ;D
cge pm ko din syo price.super mura lang kc,hint.mga one third lang ng price ng technics SE A5 sa pbazaar and ws. ;D
ayan na mga sir. ;D
makakatsamba din kyo nyan,basta abang abang lang ;)
tsamba lang ulet.mataba tumunog and bilog,ewan ko kung tama ung description ko ;D
cge pm ko din syo price.super mura lang kc,hint.mga one third lang ng price ng technics SE A5 sa pbazaar and ws. ;D
Pasensiya ka na Bro, Hindi kasi ako nagbebenta ng producto na ikinukumpara ko
sa ibang nagbebenta bro.
Pasensiya ka na Bro, Hindi kasi ako nagbebenta ng producto na ikinukumpara koOk,my apology kung nasagasaan kita.pero wala akong intension na ganun ;)
sa ibang nagbebenta bro.
Just click the small photo -- it would have full-screen size.
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pagkakaiba lang ng acquisition natin sir eh ung sa akin is working,but the seller told me the minor defect,actualy cnabi nya na as-is daw bilihan
ibig sabihin ala ng balikan,pag good condition daw kc 5.5k benta nya(na sa tingin ko eh mura na kaya na icompare ko sa presyo ng SA A5)
cnugalan ko na,kc gusto ko talaga unit.swerte2 lang talaga pagbili.
ewan ko lang ba bakit...........basta happy ako sa amp ko. :D
you are one of my idol pag dating sa vintage,pati si sir mb88 and southpeak.
baka pwede naman pa post ng medyo malaki ung pic,ng mapigurahan :)
Ok,my apology kung nasagasaan kita.pero wala akong intension na ganun ;)Maraming Salamat bro Rodel, Pasensiya ka na, na disturb ko ang
pero sir,pede ko pa din siyang lagyan ng receiver hindi po ba? kahit generic lang..?heads up lang
how much kaya sa pier etong integra a-817ex?
The hifido data is generally better since it provides prices for good-condition units, those they sell in their outlets all over Japan. The yackdb data are from Yahoo Japan auctions and could include junks or defective units. Sometimes the items listed are mere user's manuals and not the actual units.
sir sandawa,
saan po ba sa pier maka-ka-purchase ng quality power amps? I am keen on buying a 3 power amps with dual mono construction. Am not familiar with old amp models, please suggest a reliable brand and its model. thanks
;D
Hifido, the company where I bought the sansui AU alpha 607 mos limited, I have since 2 months and this is my preferred by my sansui
And await the arrival of alpha 607 cd player
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http://audio-heritage.jp/SANSUI/amp/au-alpha607moslimited.html
http://www.sansui-jpn.co.jp/sub4.html
hi terii, are you the same "terii" at Audiokarma? a big welcome to you from all of us here. WOW, 133,700 yen, Japan to Paris :o;D yes,Here are photos of the evolution of my system since 2005
http://audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=146784
could you share with us pictures of some of your other sansui's ;D
So, you're based in Paris? Are you a Filipino? If so, you could buy Sansui alpha 607 series here in the Philippines a lot cheaper if you have importer contacts. Of course the a607 Mos Limited is special, but I've seen gold-colored a607XR and MR here in Davao early this year being sold at P6K ($150) each. Alpha 907s rarely come in but you'll see a707s once in a while. A week ago, there was an a707i here in Davao quoted at P7.5K.
By the way, I currently own an original a907 and an a907iMos Limited plus an AU-X11, all black. They're in a league of their own. There are many others in this forum who own Sansui alpha series amps, mostly 607s and 707s.
Terii, thanks for the clarification. You'll find members of this forum very hospitable. Should we find those models in the local market, we'll inform you. I'm sure guys here -- including those who trade their equipment -- would sell them way below Hifido prices.
In the meantime, keep those posts coming. We want your impressions on Japanese vintage hifi specifically those you now own.
;D yes,Here are photos of the evolution of my system since 2005
Good visit, members
http://picasaweb.google.com/terii.tauaroa/SansuiAUA607MOSLIMITED
thank you sir. congratulation on your collection. i'd like to have some of those too ;D;D
(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3350/terii1jpgej2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7981/terii2yu3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Yes, it's a good amp, in fact top of Sansui's regular line in late '70s to early '80s-- reasonable price would be from P6K to P8k from surplus sources, but could go as high as five figures since current resale price in Tokyo goes as high as $700. It's a generation below the Alpha 907 series, however. The original AU-D907 is almost a collector's item and could be a bit more expensive. The D907X, and Limited editions are generally more expensive compared with the regular D907F or D907G.
;D
Thanks
The ideal is replaced integrated, which is next to the TV screen for this model sansui:
(http://fotoforum.fr/photos/8/z3y5o3z0.jpg) (http://fotoforum.fr)
I think P6K is okay for an Integra A-701D, although I'd probably haggle for a lower price. Check Hifido or Yahoo Japan to have an idea on its used pricing.
very nice, the AU-111 Vintage 1999.. good luck on your quest :)
what i have is the grandfather of AU-111, manufactured April 1966 if my interpretation of the serial number is correct. ;D
it has the two-part, plastic-metal knobs which i think was the first generation of the model.
(http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/4118/au11101gi4.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Thank you very much sir Sandawa,
How about the stepdown transformer to be used sir? the unit is rated @ 215W,
would it affect its performance if i only use a 300W transformer?
and the digital inputs sir, do you have any suggestions on how to fix it?
again, thank you very much.
;D
Here is the variable transformer model I use for my alpha 607 mos limited
http://www.transistek.com/details_produit.php?id_produit=97
That's the same as what I have. I'd say it's cheap at that price since alpha 907 iMos Limited's new quotes in Hifido exceeds 100,000 yen. Difficult to ship from Baguio to Davao though. It weighs over 30kgs.sandawa, what is the difference of this model alpha 907iMos as compare to alpha 907KX??? T I A :)
Here is how my alpha 907iMos Limited looks like:
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What the heck! I've just expressed interest in getting it.
Why are you asking. Is there anyone selling an a907KX?
In 1999, I saw an a907KX here in Davao being sold at P12K. I haggled up to P9K I think but the trader who eventually became a friend said P10K last price. I said no, but I went back the following day since I can't sleep thinking about it. Unfortunately, I was told the unit was sold just a few minutes after I left the previous night. Early this year, I had some beer with that trader and when I inquired who bought the alpha907KX and at how much, he said it was sold at P10.5K to a guy in shorts who needs a 400-watt amplifier for a videoke bar in a remote town somewhere in Cotabato.
Hi Nelson,
I don't have a rigid rule which is best and which is not. One way is to audition the gear first, and let the ears decide which ones sound good. A better way is to have previous experience with the unit. Many of us would sell this and that and would realize later they sound better than the "upgrades." A lot of those who would PM me on inquiries such as this were disappointed I guess since I would flatly tell them, I wouldn't make a comment or recommendation, even thru PM, unless I have an experience with the unit. Another limitation is that I'm only into vintage hifi and not into new production hifi.
In "speed transacting" or when there is serious competition, however, I would look at internet sources and check the history, specs and the unit's resale value. Like many in this forum, I also refer to test claims of manufacturers. But I hardly buy amps and speakers that were quoted by Hifido below 20,000 yen, unless offered dirt cheap.
Hi Rascal,
The sonic difference between a 907F and an alpha 907 is so significant. To my ears it was like comparing a good 20-watt amp with a good 100-watt amp. The alpha 907s I now have are the closest to the huge Krell and Stasis amps I can only dream of in the '80s.
BTW, I have just withdrawn my interest in the 907iMos Limited due to problems bringing it from Baguio to Davao. Also my trader told me a couple of high-power alpha series amps (400-watt consumption kuno!) are arriving within the week and I'll have the first look.
Hi Terii,
I can't afford Hifido prices, thus I try to go after units that arrive here in the Philippines and hope they're in good condition. The ongoing price for 907 alpha series in the port city where I live is from $200 to $300. Unfortunately, such units rarely come in, could be once a year. I hope my friend is telling the truth.
In my opinion, any amp under the Sansui alpha series starting with the a607 is collectible since they don't appear in the used market often. I believe the first a607 was sold in the US at $1,200 and in the UK at 1,000 pounds, so, it's considered high-end amp in the US and Europe. However, if you look at it from the Japanese audio enthusiasts' point of view, the newer a607 series, specifically gold-faced a607s like what Terii bought from Hifido are the true collectibles, still selling at over $500 in Japan's used hifi market.
Terii,
Thanks for those valuable information. Should you need small parts for your Japanese equipment that are unavailable there, just PM me. I may be able to find you some of those parts here. I've done that for a couple of Audio Karma members at no cost to them.
Pag hanap ninyo high power amplifier for low impedance subwoofers go to this link.
http://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=734004
hey pilyo, mukhang big time ka na talaga.... ;D i wish i had more time for vacation so i can see your creations.... ;D
good find. You might want to bring it to Hyperaudio for some fine tuning. Matagal naka stock yan.
“PATIENCE, PERSEVERANCE, HOPE” virtues “bakaleneos” must have.
Yesterday when whole of metro manila was preparing itself for an afternoon siesta, the owner of this magnificent machine decided to post it for sale with an incredulous asking price AND a pioneer tuner as freeby. I was also preparing to rest with my children but then decided to go on line for just a quick look on my favorite hunting sites. I was not expecting too much because I’m aware that the friendly competition out there in finding such gems has already become an ordeal, almost near impossible. But alas, maybe I did something nice that day and the audio gods decided to give me some luck. I was eight in the viewers count, no time to loose. i pounced on it just like a lion on the prowl for game. And the rest is history.. fantastic!!!!
KENWOOD KA-9100
http://www.thevintageknob.org/KENWOOD/KA9100/KA9100.html
(http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9343/ken1eo7.th.jpg) (http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ken1eo7.jpg)(http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/8295/ken2hw6.th.jpg) (http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ken2hw6.jpg)(http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4118/ken3pc7.th.jpg) (http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ken3pc7.jpg)
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“PATIENCE, PERSEVERANCE, HOPE” ;)
happy hunting ;D
“PATIENCE, PERSEVERANCE, HOPE” virtues “bakaleneos” must have.
Yesterday when whole of metro manila was preparing itself for an afternoon siesta, the owner of this magnificent machine decided to post it for sale with an incredulous asking price AND a pioneer tuner as freeby. I was also preparing to rest with my children but then decided to go on line for just a quick look on my favorite hunting sites. I was not expecting too much because I’m aware that the friendly competition out there in finding such gems has already become an ordeal, almost near impossible. But alas, maybe I did something nice that day and the audio gods decided to give me some luck. I was eight in the viewers count, no time to loose. i pounced on it just like a lion on the prowl for game. And the rest is history.. fantastic!!!!
KENWOOD KA-9100
http://www.thevintageknob.org/KENWOOD/KA9100/KA9100.html
(http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9343/ken1eo7.th.jpg) (http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ken1eo7.jpg)(http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/8295/ken2hw6.th.jpg) (http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ken2hw6.jpg)(http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4118/ken3pc7.th.jpg) (http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ken3pc7.jpg)
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“PATIENCE, PERSEVERANCE, HOPE” ;)
happy hunting ;D
Impressive specs, Southpeak. I'm a fan of vintage gears myself (Luxman L-410, 75wpc, 220V, not surplus though). Despite owning more current brands, listening to a vintage feels like having a piece of audio history at home. Old-school has its own allure.
Have you reached sonic nirvana yet? :)
Congrats!
Impressive specs, Southpeak. I'm a fan of vintage gears myself (Luxman L-410, 75wpc, 220V, not surplus though). Despite owning more current brands, listening to a vintage feels like having a piece of audio history at home. Old-school has its own allure.
Have you reached sonic nirvana yet? :)
Congrats!
“PATIENCE, PERSEVERANCE, HOPE” virtues “bakaleneos” must have.
Yesterday when whole of metro manila was preparing itself for an afternoon siesta, the owner of this magnificent machine decided to post it for sale with an incredulous asking price AND a pioneer tuner as freeby. I was also preparing to rest with my children but then decided to go on line for just a quick look on my favorite hunting sites. I was not expecting too much because I’m aware that the friendly competition out there in finding such gems has already become an ordeal, almost near impossible. But alas, maybe I did something nice that day and the audio gods decided to give me some luck. I was eight in the viewers count, no time to loose. i pounced on it just like a lion on the prowl for game. And the rest is history.. fantastic!!!!
“PATIENCE, PERSEVERANCE, HOPE” ;)
happy hunting ;D
“PATIENCE, PERSEVERANCE, HOPE” virtues “bakaleneos” must have.
Yesterday when whole of metro manila was preparing itself for an afternoon siesta, the owner of this magnificent machine decided to post it for sale with an incredulous asking price AND a pioneer tuner as freeby. I was also preparing to rest with my children but then decided to go on line for just a quick look on my favorite hunting sites. I was not expecting too much because I’m aware that the friendly competition out there in finding such gems has already become an ordeal, almost near impossible. But alas, maybe I did something nice that day and the audio gods decided to give me some luck. I was eight in the viewers count, no time to loose. i pounced on it just like a lion on the prowl for game. And the rest is history.. fantastic!!!!
KENWOOD KA-9100
http://www.thevintageknob.org/KENWOOD/KA9100/KA9100.html
“PATIENCE, PERSEVERANCE, HOPE” ;)
happy hunting ;D
Wow, this is a good find sir, a very hard to find great piece of equipment, Congratulations ;)
I'm also a vintage lover just like some of us here. Eventhough i already have a 40-year old Sansui 1000A and 20-year old Onkyo Liverpool speaker, i'm still in search and always on the go of finding such good vintage equipment like yours, i don't know why but there's always a great feeling of satisfaction whenever i found one :)
Keep on Hunting Guys :D
Wow, tempting to acquire your gear!
I enjoy watching those early types of dual mono - I feel it is more a work of art than technology - better open to appreciate than closed. Very rare gem that you can encounter - dual monoblocks - expensive by todays standard. I own similar NEC A-10II that uses dual EI transformers like yours, sealed pots - no harsh dial anytime, and never got an inkling to dispose it - and I think you won't. Congrats!
Wow, this is a good find sir, a very hard to find great piece of equipment, Congratulations ;)
I'm also a vintage lover just like some of us here. Eventhough i already have a 40-year old Sansui 1000A and 20-year old Onkyo Liverpool speaker, i'm still in search and always on the go of finding such good vintage equipment like yours, i don't know why but there's always a great feeling of satisfaction whenever i found one :)
Keep on Hunting Guys :D
Wow 1000a is a vintage Sansui vacuum tube stereo receiver! Nice one Reynold! :)
thank you sir and i agree with you. these amps are works of art. the external heatsinks alone are worth the buy. additional pics of the kenwood, side profile showing heatsinks and my other favorite. beautiful master pieces.. :o :o
(http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/8906/heatsink3qf8.th.jpg) (http://img383.imageshack.us/my.php?image=heatsink3qf8.jpg) (http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/4958/heatsink2iu7.th.jpg) (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=heatsink2iu7.jpg)
dispose? never is too final a word for me but what i can say is i'll keep them as looooooooooong as i am able.. ;D
oh btw, the NEC A-10 (what ever series) is also in my list. congratulation too! :)
I'm also a vintage audio enthusiast, currently i'm using....
A Sansui 9090db (early 70's) paired with JBL L112 (early 80's)
A Marantz Esotec PM4 (early 80's) paired with an Aurum Cantus bookshelves
Sansui XR-Q7 turntable and Philips CD650 CDP
I might not have the finests of equipment, but i'm happy listening with what i have.
Also hoping for a Luxman :)
As to your last sentence, "I might not have the finests of equipment, but i'm happy listening with what i have."
allow me to reinforce that with:
"If a person truly wants to live, he can make any place he wants a heaven." - Yui Ikari
Just replace the word "place" with "gear." Kontra-SARS, from a philosophical vantage point. ;)
You've got fine stuff there, Nelson. Isn't that Marantz Esotec a Class A amp? Nice...Mainit lang siguro pag matagal nagamit.
As to your last sentence, "I might not have the finests of equipment, but i'm happy listening with what i have."
allow me to reinforce that with:
"If a person truly wants to live, he can make any place he wants a heaven." - Yui Ikari
Just replace the word "place" with "gear." Kontra-SARS, from a philosophical vantage point. ;)
“PATIENCE, PERSEVERANCE, HOPE” virtues “bakaleneos” must have.
Yesterday when whole of metro manila was preparing itself for an afternoon siesta, the owner of this magnificent machine decided to post it for sale with an incredulous asking price AND a pioneer tuner as freeby. I was also preparing to rest with my children but then decided to go on line for just a quick look on my favorite hunting sites. I was not expecting too much because I’m aware that the friendly competition out there in finding such gems has already become an ordeal, almost near impossible. But alas, maybe I did something nice that day and the audio gods decided to give me some luck. I was eight in the viewers count, no time to loose. i pounced on it just like a lion on the prowl for game. And the rest is history.. fantastic!!!!
KENWOOD KA-9100
http://www.thevintageknob.org/KENWOOD/KA9100/KA9100.html
(http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9343/ken1eo7.th.jpg) (http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ken1eo7.jpg)(http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/8295/ken2hw6.th.jpg) (http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ken2hw6.jpg)(http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4118/ken3pc7.th.jpg) (http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ken3pc7.jpg)
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“PATIENCE, PERSEVERANCE, HOPE” ;)
happy hunting ;D
You're right Poloman888, the Marantz Esotec PM 4 is class A amp.
15wpc in class A operation, 60wpc in class AB operation.
Mainit nga, kaya puro heatsink ang gilid.
Lucky na nag match sa Aurum Cantus leisure 2SV.
Looking at your Keenwood, it was quite impressive seeing the dual mono design. Ang hindi lang yata maganda ay ang paggamit in IC chip for the output stage, based duon sa picture.
But anyway, the designer could have taken this into account dahil ang sabi mo nga eh, maganda siyang tumunog. Ika nga, ang importante hindi ang laman sa loob, kundi kung paano ito tutunog.
Happy listening. :)
yes sir, almost same comment from my tech. sabi pa nga nya, pag ka daw yung IC ang bumigay, himala na daw kung may makita pa dito sa pinas. benta ko na lang daw agad bago madedbol ;D. mapag biro si tech :D
actually there are two ICs, the TA-100WA and PA63H (from service manual)..
(http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/189/dsc0019tp0.th.jpg) (http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc0019tp0.jpg)
and yes, the designer must have seen (or heard) something special from these ICs to include them in the system and give the amp its "soul".. maganda talaga sir. :) lets enjoy them while they last.. ;)
oh, btw.. for those who are interested. the units' japanese counter part is the TRIO KA-7700d
(http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6346/7700is4.th.jpg) (http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=7700is4.jpg)
have no fear..... :)
that IC contains a darlington pair, bias diodes and resistors..Sanyo and SANKEN makes these hybrids, they contain transistor chips and diodes and resistors in what is called thick film technology) .......in the event of failure and no replacement is found...you can always convert your amp to discrete transistors....it can be done...i have done several conversions before...... ;D
Wow, Tony your the man :).
Just to alert you guys, some upscale gear have been arriving here in Davao these past months although just a fraction of the usual volume of shipments 5 years ago. Check out your friendly traders there at the Pier. Ask those guys at Chatty's. Malamang meron din dyan, baka nakatago lang. Today, a trader here in Davao told me of two alpha 907s (iMos-Ltd., and 907L-Extra) that arrived last week and sold immediately to some guys (nakalimutan akong tawagan sa bilis ng mga pangyayari!).Hi Sandawa
Since last week, 2 pieces of Onkyo Integra 927s are displayed in one shop here at P6K each:
http://www.audio-heritage.jp/ONKYO/amp/integraa-927.html
Anyway, if I get lucky, I would have a Luxman SQ-38 Signature (valve integrated) this weekend.
Three months ago, I got a Sansui AV-9500, the last top of the line Sansui AV amplifier:
http://www.audio-heritage.jp/SANSUI/amp/av-9500dsp.html
Last month, I was able to buy a Yamaha C-6/B-6 preamp/power combo:
http://www.audio-heritage.jp/YAMAHA/amp/c-6.html
http://www.audio-heritage.jp/YAMAHA/amp/b-6.html
Last week, I got this rare and amazing Diatone DS-S3 with 4-inch downfiring woofer that pounds like a 10-incher:
http://www.audio-heritage.jp/DIATONE/diatoneds/ds-s3.html
I'm getting excited again.
Postscript:
OOPS, ako yata yung may-ari ng Yamaha B-4 na nilagay ni Axel Dahl sa website niya (The Vintage Knob) . Ilang taon na rin nung humingi siya sa akin ng B-4 photos. Problema, hindi siya makakuha ng Jap brochure for the B4, kaya isiningit na lang sa M4 page yung B4 info.
Hi Sandawa
Congratulations on your purchase, in France we do not have a surplus of hifi equipment from Japan and it is a pity
but I managed to buy a Sansui 607 NRA2
Now I await the arrival of 607 NRA2 from Japan, it took 10 months for having
http://audio-heritage.jp/SANSUI/amp/au-alpha607nraii.html
Dana,
Wala, hindi na-deliver ang SQ38 Signature -- medyo mataas din ang presyo P24K (but selling at $1,200 in Japan now) -- ang sabi ko sa trader babayaran ko kung walang hum na maririnig after two hours the amp was on and playing one watt per channel. Hindi dumating last weekend, that means merong hum, which is the usual problem among tube amps. I can't stand even a small amount of hum since I've heard good tube amps abroad without any hum. My current Sansui AU-70 has no hum. My Dad's Radford and Dynaco amps back in the '60s have no hums and he told me when I was starting never to buy any tube amp with a hum.
Hi Terii,
So you're also into hoarding Sansui's best amps? I'm not lucky enough to get those a907s that drifted in the city where I live. Had I got those two, I would have three different models of alpha 907s (2 units of imos limited) now plus an AU-XII, an AV-9500DSP, an AU-D907F and an AU-70 (tube). I'm luckier though with good quality vintage Yamaha power amps. I now have the C4/B4 combination; the B3 (VFET); and the C6/B6 combination. I'm not a big Yamaha fan but they seem to come easily to me.
Not just me who had nice scores lately. Foo texted me last night about his latest catch -- a vintage TOTL from Pioneer's silver line.
Terii,Hi Sandawa
So you got your a607NRAII from HifiDo?
I was searching for an email from an American guy who operates a forwarding company in Tokyo. He once offered his services to me in bidding for items in Japan's auction sites. Unfortunately, I couldn't find his address. Anyway, I googled and what I got are these two sites:
http://www.japantoy.biz/
http://www.aazumatrading.com/yahoo-auction-japan/index.php
Do you have experience with any of these two? My acquisitions are currently dependent on my trader-friends here in southern Philippines and I'm planning to buy directly from Japanese sources for small hifi items one of these days.
sandawa_san,Hi Southpeak
congratulation on your new set of catch. siguro sir kung tribal chief kayo, tuwang tuwa mga ka tribo nyo, sarap pang ulam ng mga huli nyo. they might even consider voting you chieftain for life.. kampai :)
terii,
congratulation too! a 607 NRA II, wow.. only in our dreams here in the philippines. what we hope for are lost ships from japan carrying these surplus amps and maybe gets adrift in our shores and hope these goods find their way in some of our surplus stores.. ;D
please do post pics of your new toy, we await in anticipation :D
Hi Sandawa
the NRA2 which was sold on hifido, yes I am the buyer, since the beginning of the year there were 3 NRA2 on sale they were already booked
of the announcement of hifido on its site, the last when I saw the announcement that more than a week it is selling, I immediately validated my purchase, since I already hifido purchased from, they confirmed the purchase
on the two sites, I did not have had business with
should I inquire about them
it may be interesting for bids yahoo auction
http://page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k109918365
http://page19.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/x52146154
CONGRATS Sandawa! May mga bagong dating pala...makabisita nga sa Monday :D
Thanks. Cyril (son of Toto Paz) texted me last night about a pair of PSB Stratus Silver he's selling, but I told him I'm not interested. Check him out, I think he knows you.
Hi Terii,Hi Sandawa
The Sansui Anniversary amp would be awesome but that would probably cost up to $4,000 including forwarding charge. Its weight is about 35 kgs -- like those old school Krells -- if I'm not mistaken.
1980??? :o :o :o
wahahaha. naunahan ako ng Journalist.Hi
Lol. Nah. its not the Fabulous 1980...lol. that would be Fabulouser. Still, i feel like a fat contented cow right now. I seldom am able to get TOP of the Line models unlike you guys. I've missed out several times on sansui 9090's and AUD 907's. This is my first TOTL Pioneer Amp.
I have an SA9900 hooked up right now with a pair of HPM100s. That's the pioneer integrated with macho rack handles at the back and pilot lamp around the volume dial. It may have come from the Pier but i got it from a neighborhood thrift shop and its already set to 220 volts. But then again it says 120/220 at the back. A japanese home unit that will pass through the Pier surplus stores would say 100v right?
I seem to have seen posts about some PDVD members who own this model.
Foo.
wahahaha. naunahan ako ng Journalist.
Lol. Nah. its not the Fabulous 1980...lol. that would be Fabulouser. Still, i feel like a fat contented cow right now. I seldom am able to get TOP of the Line models unlike you guys. I've missed out several times on sansui 9090's and AUD 907's. This is my first TOTL Pioneer Amp.
I have an SA9900 hooked up right now with a pair of HPM100s. That's the pioneer integrated with macho rack handles at the back and pilot lamp around the volume dial. It may have come from the Pier but i got it from a neighborhood thrift shop and its already set to 220 volts. But then again it says 120/220 at the back. A japanese home unit that will pass through the Pier surplus stores would say 100v right?
I seem to have seen posts about some PDVD members who own this model.
Foo.
wahahaha. naunahan ako ng Journalist.
Lol. Nah. its not the Fabulous 1980...lol. that would be Fabulouser. Still, i feel like a fat contented cow right now. I seldom am able to get TOP of the Line models unlike you guys. I've missed out several times on sansui 9090's and AUD 907's. This is my first TOTL Pioneer Amp.
I have an SA9900 hooked up right now with a pair of HPM100s. That's the pioneer integrated with macho rack handles at the back and pilot lamp around the volume dial. It may have come from the Pier but i got it from a neighborhood thrift shop and its already set to 220 volts. But then again it says 120/220 at the back. A japanese home unit that will pass through the Pier surplus stores would say 100v right?
I seem to have seen posts about some PDVD members who own this model.
Foo.
Nabuhay na naman ang thread.
The vintage gear hunters are on the prowl again ha ;D.
I see the Whos Who of vintage gears again posting ;D ;D ;D
Congrats Lord Foo on your latest TOTL Pioneer SA9900.
For the pioneers,the most I could have now are the twin brothers SA8800II(pareho tayo Joey...) & SA800 ...no luck with your kind of toys...
Maganda yata magkaron ng Vintage SS Meet/EB.
Keep on hunting and posting guys :D
Btw, any of you guys also into Reel to Reel...i have some reel tapes, no player to try it with...
Im tempted...there is an AKAI 360D whispering to my ear, "come to papa.." ;D...buti na lang alang budget...
.....
ang nasakin na lang eh yung tuner na TX-8500II. natakot kasi ako dahil natyempuhan ako ng "kulo" static and crackling sound... lalu na yung SX-950...
i know what you mean...experienced that static/popcorn noise in SA8800.
Replaced some problematic leaky transistors in the preamp driver board.
Back to normal and toys are healthy again ;D
Hi Terii,
That's a good looking amp. BTW, I got a call form my friend informing me I'll have an alpha 607 Mos Limited arriving next week from Kansai (in Japan). I hope the unit is in good condition.
Also sharing photos of my latest catch -- Luxman SQ-38 FD Mark II (30wpc - one channel isn't working, has yet to check how many of the valves are dead):
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/sq382.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/sq38e.jpg)
Valves are: four 50ca10 (the big ones); two 6267; three 12ax7; and three 12au7
sana nga ganun lang ang mga problema ng mga preamp. ewan koba tinakot lang yata ako nung technician. >:( i paired it with bose 901 S3... yung equalizer ng bose ang sumira... waaaah... well anyway good thing its still singing sir Dana... im on a hunt again for Integrated or separate or reciever(SX1010) silver pioneer... kahit hindi TOTL oks lang basta maganda tunog...pwedi na yung C at M series o kaya Spec 1 & 2... ;D
Also sharing photos of my latest catch -- Luxman SQ-38 FD Mark II (30wpc - one channel isn't working, have yet to check how many of the valves are dead):
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/sq382.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/sq38e.jpg)
Valves are: four 50CA10 (the big ones); two 6267; four 12ax7; and two 6DT8/6AO8
the four 50CA10'a are uniquely Japanese, i do not know of any American of European counterpart, i believe they are compactron socketed power triodes, replacement tubes are uncertain, they may no longer be inproduction as of today. .nice catch though.. ;D..
Thanks, yes these are power triodes. I got this amp mainly for my personal collection considering I'm not very fond of tube sound. I've inquired overseas: 50CA10s are still available but at a steep price of $100 each. There's a $60 option from a Chinese firm that produces a limited number of this rare valve (baka melamine-contaminated pa!). It's out-of-stock even in Japan but there are Japanese DIYers who were able to make 25C6GAs (easily available in Japan I was told) work as replacements with modifications in the amp's settings.
A couple of days ago, I turned this monster on after removing the case and found two 50CA10s and two 6267s dead. Despite that, one channel is working but couldn't produce a loud sound without clipping. 6267s are obtainable, so, just in case I can't get those big bulbs (50CA10s are almost as big as 10-watt bulbs) I'll be happy with an SQ-38FD in mono. My uncle's 15-inch full-range EV speaker could be a good match to this.
i have pics... jst cant figure it out how to insert them... any help?
...i recently acquired a pair of yamaha mx2000 amp and cx2000 pre amp...
hi to all,
im myke, a newbie po..
i recently acquired a pair of yamaha mx2000 amp and cx2000 pre amp.
goin to start my set up with this receivers.. currently im auditioning a jamo sat 500.
any suggestion on speakers that will match my amp... tnx
i have pics... jst cant figure it out how to insert them... any help? ;D tnx
hi to all,
im myke, a newbie po..
i recently acquired a pair of yamaha mx2000 amp and cx2000 pre amp.
goin to start my set up with this receivers.. currently im auditioning a jamo sat 500.
any suggestion on speakers that will match my amp... tnx
i have pics... jst cant figure it out how to insert them... any help? ;D tnx
My friendly trader was wrong again! I ordered an a607 MOS Limited similar to Terii's but what I got today is an a607 MOS Premium, which is a notch below. A used a607 MOS Limited's last transaction at Hifido was at roughly $1K. Alpha 607 MOS Premium's last transaction was about $725.
Got my a607 MOS Premium at roughly a third of its Tokyo indicative price, probably high for local standards, but I'm still happy. It has the sonic clarity of my a907 iMOS Limited but a bit lacking on deep bass. That's the difference I guess between an 18-kg. amp and 32-kg amp. Alpha 607 MOS Premium's parts are almost the same as the a907 iMOS Limited -- the brown Elna capacitors and the clean layout although disparity in size of transformers is obvious.
Here are a few photos for future owners' reference:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/a607b.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/a607e.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/a607f.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/a607i.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/a607m.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/a607o.jpg)
My friendly trader was wrong again! I ordered an a607 MOS Limited similar to Terii's but what I got today is an a607 MOS Premium, which is a notch below. A used a607 MOS Limited's last transaction at Hifido was at roughly $1K. Alpha 607 MOS Premium's last transaction was about $725.Hi Sandawa
Got my a607 MOS Premium at roughly a third of its Tokyo indicative price, probably high for local standards, but I'm still happy. It has the sonic clarity of my a907 iMOS Limited but a bit lacking on deep bass. That's the difference I guess between an 18-kg. amp and 32-kg amp. Alpha 607 MOS Premium's parts are almost the same as the a907 iMOS Limited -- the brown Elna capacitors and the clean layout although disparity in size of transformers is obvious.
Here are a few photos for future owners' reference:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/a607b.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/a607e.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/a607f.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/a607i.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/a607m.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/a607o.jpg)
Tony,
You have a PM. I hope you'll have the time to look into the unit's problems should I have the opportunity to bring it there in the coming weeks.
Yes, I have two amps I think that I could donate plus a couple more CDPs and tape decks. They're too heavy, however, to send to you. My earliest trip to Manila would be mid-December yet, so I guess we won't meet this year. Maybe next year, who knows.
It's probably better if you can visit me next year since I lack patience in shipping these heavyweights. Manila to Davao is a lot closer than Manila to Russia where your work is. Instead of giving some of these to my importer-friend's technician, I'll keep them for you. I understand your interest in these equipment, even the basic parts -- from caps to chokes -- are really premium-type compared with those loaded in British or American hifi units.
thanks, will do...Hi
what a lot of guys don't know probably is that Japanese amps for domestic sales are of higher quality than most "exports only " units.....many that were hooked on "pier surplus amps" will attest to that.......and that this thread had survived for a long time... ;D
Hi
I would say that some units that are not exported ,are interesting to discover, buy me directly
in Japan of units that are not exported
in Europe, many people are reluctant to buy directly in Japan because the voltage is 100volts, they think voltage transformer degrades the qualities of sound units (230v to100v) ;D
That's a good one. The biggest Onkyo power amp that arrived here in Davao was a defective M-508. It's possible the M-510 Grand Integra would be coming soon.
The past week, i saw Sansui aux1 at the pier.
I didn't know what it was so i went home. Later i checked it out on google and saw that it is claimed to be one of the best amps made by sansui. Also that it has helped gain for Sansui the sobriquet, "sansunog". The stability problems of the model seems have to been corrected in later released.
That's a good one. The biggest Onkyo power amp that arrived here in Davao was a defective M-508. It's possible the M-510 Grand Integra would be coming soon.
No, I did not get the defective M508. But wait, I just smoked my AU-X11 last night since I was experimenting with its external connectors -- 2 external preamps, 2 external power amps could be connected to it -- and in my excitement I plugged it in a 220-watt hole. It's been with me without problem for about 5 years now and has been an anchor in one of my major systems. If my technician can't fix it, you can take it away next year -- but beware, it shows 32 kgs. on my bathroom scale.
Hi
sansui au-alpha 607 nra2
http://www.hifido.co.jp/KW/G0101/P0/A10/E/0-10/S0/C08-41136-37495-00/
10 000 yen over the last 607 nra2 that I bought from hifido, the rate starts to increase seriously
>:(
how much kaya ang landed price nito dito sa atin?
Tony,
It took just a few seconds but I could hear one pop and saw some smoke. I believe the transformers are okay -- yes there are two. I just brought it to my technician an hour ago and he said it's likely some caps and smaller parts, hoping the damage did not reach the transistors. The technician has been repairing Jap domestic amps on a daily basis for at least 10 years now -- he's employed by the biggest Jap hifi importer here in Davao -- so, I'm quite confident with his ability. Unfortunately, he's almost illiterate when it comes to valve amps.
Ivann,
If the price of my a607MOS Premium would be used as gauge, an a607NRAII (the last of the a607 amps produced -- 1999 -- before Sansui went under) could be quoted from P6K to P8K by surplus Jap hifi dealers here in Davao. That would likely be the quotes from Manila's Pier dealers. In Europe and the US, hifi enthusiasts are willing to buy those gems way over Japan prices, which could be close to $1,000 per unit.
I've been waiting for sooooo long to have a chance to grab one of these
Integra's power amps with large VU meters. Yesterday, got my opportunity
and i can't let the rare chance slip away....
Yes, it is the Onkyo Integra M-509....
Been using it the whole day and it runs smoothly with no hint of any
problem whatsoever.
The sound is full, warm, balanced and controlled even in high volume.
It's well worth the loooong wait.
Grab one guys! ;)
I took the opportunity to open the AU-XII which I failed to do in the past since it's too heavy and set up tightly in a rack (too big -- 21X17X8 -- taller, wider and deeper than normal amps). Here are some of the photos taken a few minutes back which could serve as reference for those who might have a chance to find a unit adrift on Manila Bay one of these days:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/100_3327.jpg)
This how it looks like when complete.
congratulation on you find sir nelson.. wow a M-509, 200wpc at 8 ohm :oHi Sir southpeak,
picture, picture, picture.. ;D
how much kaya ang landed price nito dito sa atin?
Tony,hello
It took just a few seconds but I could hear one pop and saw some smoke. I believe the transformers are okay -- yes there are two. I just brought it to my technician an hour ago and he said it's likely some caps and smaller parts, hoping the damage did not reach the transistors. The technician has been repairing Jap domestic amps on a daily basis for at least 10 years now -- he's employed by the biggest Jap hifi importer here in Davao -- so, I'm quite confident with his ability. Unfortunately, he's almost illiterate when it comes to valve amps.
Ivann,
If the price of my a607MOS Premium would be used as gauge, an a607NRAII (the last of the a607 amps produced -- 1999 -- before Sansui went under) could be quoted from P6K to P8K by surplus Jap hifi dealers here in Davao. That would likely be the quotes from Manila's Pier dealers. In Europe and the US, hifi enthusiasts are willing to buy those gems way over Japan prices, which could be close to $1,000 per unit.
I wonder how's pricing of those units there now. Regular Alpha 607s here in Davao are now quoted as high as P6K, from as low as P3.5K in previous years (Japan used price $200-400). I got my 607 Mos Premium limited edition (160 watts power consumption at the back) at P9K (Japan used price $600-700). My AU-XII (used price $600-800) was bought at P8K four years ago, so the AU-X1 should be within that range, probably higher now.
Gone also was the pioneer sa9800 i saw there sometime ago.
nani, thank you for sharing. that is what i call an AMPLIFIER, big time :o.. you just made my day. medyo na e-excite ako kung nakakakita ako ng "hubad" ;D
now i know what i want for christmas, may be not this chrismas :D . a luxman perhaps ::)
hope your tech can fix it alright..
I'm a lucky guy. I brought the AU-XII to the technician 11 a.m. yesterday but he apologized he would not be able to attend to it immediately since he still has to fix an electronic organ used by a local band. So, I said no hurry. But I need a feedback before I leave for Manila in two weeks so I could look for parts in Raon if necessary.
What do you know, I just got a text saying my AU-XII has been singing perfectly for two hours and ready for pick up. Repair charge quoted was P450 (less than $10 for foreign audio enthusiasts monitoring this thread), but I intend to give him P1K ($20).
BTW, he was telling me yesterday he has accumulated a stash of rare parts for upscale Japanese solid state amps. But he said he's not selling any, merely hedging for personal use and for future repairs. I believe him since he's the amp specialist for the biggest importer of Japanese hifi here in Davao.
Hi Sir Sandawa,
Glad to hear that your AU-X11 is working again.
Those top Sansui models are becoming rare/hard
to find, they should be heard and appreciated all
the more.
Btw, i'm looking for an Integra P-309 pre amp,
baka may maligaw dyan sir...
Please inform me.
TIA! :)
Nelson
I'm a lucky guy. I brought the AU-XII to the technician 11 a.m. yesterday but he apologized he would not be able to attend to it immediately since he still has to fix an electronic organ used by a local band. So, I said no hurry. But I need a feedback before I leave for Manila in two weeks so I could look for parts in Raon if necessary.Hi sandawa
What do you know, I just got a text saying my AU-XII has been singing perfectly for two hours and ready for pick up. Repair charge quoted was P450 (less than $10 for foreign audio enthusiasts monitoring this thread), but I intend to give him P1K ($20).
BTW, he was telling me yesterday he has accumulated a stash of rare parts for upscale Japanese solid state amps. But he said he's not selling any, merely hedging for personal use and for future repairs. I believe him since he's the amp specialist for the biggest importer of Japanese hifi here in Davao.
Sir Sandawa,nice to hear that your Sansui is up and running again.
Aside from the gem gears, its good that you have a well experienced & very able technician.Take care of him too. :D
Congrats rin sa M509 Onkyo owner...ganda ganda ng face value nyan...soundwise rin cguro.
kelan kaya ako makatisod ng mga nyan ???
Thanks, problem is I bought two extension cords from CDR-King (P180 each?) last week, one I hooked to a 1,500-watt 100V transformer and another to 220V line in my living room. I forgot to put labels and accidentally plugged the AU-XII to the 220V line the other night. Then, "pop" it goes with white smoke coming out of the back grill. The smell was almost unbearable. Anyway it took just a couple of seconds since I was able to switch off the extension cord immediately.
congrats....
we had the same problem in our plant before where we had this assortment of 220 and 110volts equipments...accidents did happen very often.........so we came up with the following solutions. :)
1. installed 120/130 volt mov's after the fuse on equipment rated for 110 volts.
2. replaced the outlets and plugs for 110 volt equipment to a different type so that plugging in equipment on a wrong voltage is not possible.
this is applicable on the home setting also...
pinutol yung plug at bare wires sinaksak sa 220 ayos!!! gawain kasi dun pag di nagtugma ang plug sa socket,, guntingin! ;D
congrats....
we had the same problem in our plant before where we had this assortment of 220 and 110volts equipments...accidents did happen very often.........so we came up with the following solutions. :)
1. installed 120/130 volt mov's after the fuse on equipment rated for 110 volts.
2. replaced the outlets and plugs for 110 volt equipment to a different type so that plugging in equipment on a wrong voltage is not possible.
this is applicable on the home setting also...
Don, tutal naman eh madami ka ng natisod.... ipasa mo na lang sa akin kung matitisod ka pa hatagal ka na hintay ni sony...di ka naman punta. ;)
Sir Dana,...kakapromote mo lang daw e, Mr Manager :D.
Oo nga naman, dami mo ng gems. Balitaan mo naman ako kung malapit ka ng matisod. O di kaya baka puwede i half price mo na lang iyung offer mo sa akin na tt ... hehehe ... medyo payat kasi ang wallet ko e.
dun sa abroad. na-plug ko ibm pc sa 220 eh may naglipat pala sa 110 at binago setting sa psu switch. buti napindot ko agad switch ext. umusok pero after the smoke cleared umandar uli sa 110v. dont know why. close call. just got lucky -let go situation no problem Grin
from brian mico...tagal ka na hintay ni sony...di ka naman punta. ;)
...kakapromote mo lang daw e, Mr Manager :D.
ayaw mo na cd?serious ka,mag analog ka na rin ba?
tex tex lan kung seryus ka...;D
Btw, mukha lan clang gems sa paningin nyo because of the TLC I showered them, being vintage equipments.Kung pede lang pahiran ng Jergens lotion mga yan, gagawin ko ;D.
However, compared sa mga gears ng mga bigtime collectors in this thread...peanuts or pili lan yung mga akin.However, sa SQ, pedeng pede pa rin makipagsabayan if challenged with modern gears.
hayy,sana magholidays na at ng makapasyal sa pier...
sama sama tayong 'makatisod'.
its been sometime...missed my old huntinggrounds & contacts ;D
tagal ka na hintay ni sony...di ka naman punta. ;)
;D
hey Mr. SANTA.. Sa akin , wala ka bang ipapaampon.. 8) :)
if i can get my hands on set of PIONEER Spec1 and Spec2 units i would be very very happy indeed... ;D
Hi Tony,
Indeed, the Pioneer Spec 1 and Spec 2 are awesome pre power amp combination.
Would you believe that we have spotted these legendary Pioneer models just
collecting dusts at a house and we've learned that the owner died years ago!
But! but! The widow won't let go of it for "sentimental reasons"!
It is complete with its matching tuner, tape deck, open reel tape deck, turntable,
and maybe an HPM speakers!
We've offered monetary considerations, but to no avail....
We had a drink or two of my audio buddies dahil sa panghihinayang....
Well, that's life! Sometimes luck just comes along, sometimes not.
to the proud owner of the onkyo m509... congrats..
Was that your group waiting while a technician was soldering something in the amp? Maybe not. i think the group i saw at the store was trying to convince the seller to sell the amp to them but the seller stuck to his guns saying that he is already talking to somebody. i may be wrong though.
But that that amp is an eyecatcher.... those meters really looks so MACHO!!!
Sir Sandawa... congrats thin on the successful repair of your auxii.
and YES.. those SPECS 1, 2, 3 AND 4 are amps to die for. :)
I wonder... was the owner a member of PinoyDVD? You have to try and visit widow again and again. lol... sabi nga nila...walang matimtimang birhen sa matiyagang manalangin...
Just bought the Onkyo Integra P-306RS pre amplifier.
Match made in heaven with the Onkyo Integra M-509 power amplifier. ;D
Congrats on the Onkyo Pre-Pro combo.
Had my stashed last week in the form of a Pioneer Stable Platter CD Player, also from that same store ;D
Hi Sir kefq,
Thank you....
Have you seen the P-306RS pre amp?
Have you noticed the bookshelf speakers with electrostatic tweeter?
I wasn't able to have it tested though...
Yes bro, I seen your Onkyo pre amp including your M509. Yup those speakers had been there for quite sometime now, not sure if its a denon or a sony.
What I got, dont know if you've seen it when you went there, are the Huge Yamaha Vintage Speakers.
Hmm. those yamahas may be large midrange yamaha speakers. Not tweeters and no woofers.
Hi Sansutsut,
That is a good Sansui, in fact i have one.
Bring it to a good electronic technician,
before something of a major problem may occur.
That is a dual power supply Sansui model amp,
AU-D607, 70wpc.
My main concern when buying for an amp are the
output transistors.
Sansui usually uses Sanken or Toshiba.
Those transistors are hard to find nowadays, worst,
not available anymore.
Sansui amps takes few seconds for the relay to activate, this is normal.
It should be about 5 secs. Longer than that, there might be a problem somewhere.
Well regarding the output sound, AU-D607 has a selector switch at the back, that
contact point may became dirty over time (preamp-power amp sel. switch) and may result
to problem to the output sound, Try cleaning it with a contact cleaner.
Ty po Sir Nelson,
Kayo po pala nakuha ng Onkyo M509?
Last week po kasi nakita ko yan na inaayaos
ng technician, muntik nga pong lumawa mata
ko sa nakita ko..hehehehe
May alam po kayo na nabibilihan ng Fuse Lamp for Vintage Reciever?
By the way sir ty and more power to you and sa M509.....
hello
Sansui system of the latest models produced
biamp horizental passive use:
1 607 nra2 mono amplifier low frequencies left of infinity ren 90
1 607 nra2 mono amplifier low frequency right of infinity ren 90
1 607 mos limited stereo amplifier high frequency of infinity ren 90
preamp: vincent sa 31
dac zhaolu d3
compact disc player cd alpha 607 HDCD
very nice sound ;D
Hi terii,
Congrats on your new set-up!
Glad to hear from you Sir! :)
Thanks Sansutsut,
Yes, i'm the lucky (am i? hehehe...) owner of the all intact,
all original power output transistors (all Sankens) M-509.
It's a 200wpc at 8 ohms power amplifier and weighs 31kg.
My heaviest amp being the 9090db (24kg) before having the
M-509. You should see the vu meters in action! Fantastic!
Btw, about the fuse lamp. I think Raon is the best place to look
for those vintage electronic parts.
Regards
Yes, AU-D607 can be used as an integrated, pre
amplifier or power amplifier by properly setting the
selector switch at the back, the reason for not having
a jumper wire.
Hi Nelson O
thank you
the mos limited is fantastic in the medium and the high
the nra2 has the same characteristics as the mos limited but it has more bass fabulous, I was surprised the first time when I launched the first nra2
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Mga Masters,
Ok ba ang SANSUI AU-α 507XR, any comment po...
Nakita ko yan kahapon kay Lola....
TY......
AU-a 507XR is the entry level of the XR series (1993)
60 watts per channel at 8 ohms
weighs 10.5kg
Alpha series are well designed and Sansui's pride
after the great solid state era of the 70's :)
Btw, when you said "lola"
are you referring to Little Chatty?
That's home hifi power amp rated 80wpc @ 6 ohms. Current resale price in Japan could be found here: http://yackdb.s138.xrea.com/auview.php?m=M-1100
That's actually a Technics and a very good amp. Technics, Panasonic, National, and Ramsa, among others, are brands that belong to Matsus**ta Electric. BTW, Matsus**ta also owns Japan Victor and its international brand JVC.
That's actually a Technics and a very good amp. Technics, Panasonic, National, and Ramsa, among others, are brands that belong to Matsus**ta Electric. BTW, Matsus**ta also owns Japan Victor and its international brand JVC.
It is 100wpc at 6 ohms
Weighs 21kg! :o
Dual mono design.
Now, that is an amp! 8)
Congrats bro! :)
Hi Reymer,
SE-M100 is a 100wpc/class AA/35kg? (i'm not sure)
You got beautiful Technics amps collections bro!
Btw, you said that your other amp is SU-VX800....
Maybe you meant SU-A800, but i may be wrong....
Got this amp 2 weeks ago, 120wpc at 8ohms, weighs 23kgs 8)
Onkyo Integra A-820RS
Actual pic
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l41/kkkram/P1000393.jpg)
Wow. Top of the Line onkyo.
Hanep! :o
Isang hakbang na lang A-2001 na!
Congrats bro! :)
hi all i would just like to ask something about the speaker terminals of most of our vintage amps. i tried using a bannana plug kaso di sya kasya. what are the other alternatives of connecting ur speaker wire aside from using barewire
Got this amp 2 weeks ago, 120wpc at 8ohms, weighs 23kgs 8)
Onkyo Integra A-820RS
Actual pic
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l41/kkkram/P1000393.jpg)
Was just passing by looking for cd/dvd and went in this store at basement.
Mga Sirs,
Newbie po at super willing to learn sa mga masters dito.
May nabili po ako last week na Yamaha AV Receiver.
DSP-AX520 @ Php6,000
Im sure napamahal ako, hehehehe
No remote po, so most likely, I will have to search for a universal remote.
Any ideas po kung anung brand? I see a lot of CDR-King remotes na universal pwede na kaya?
Also, plano ko po sumali sa mga masters dito na mahilig mag scour ng vintage amps at preamps.
Sana po you could post a link of must buy items and models para in case makita ko i can post here if its available so that di tayo mawalan ng info.
Salamat po
Sana po you could post a link of must buy items and models para in case makita ko i can post here if its available so that di tayo mawalan ng info.
btw, san ba hunting ground mo, pa PM naman ;) ;D :D
how does the power amp, pre-amp setups?
Hmmm, pero pano ko ikakabit ung power amp? Pwede ko ba ikabit sa av receiver un? Pano? Hehehe sorry bobits ako, or para sa music setup lang un.
Tnx masters
Sirs, is it okey to plug a 100 volt compact disc player to a 110 volts transformer? how will it affect such player? thank you in advance.
Sirs, is it okey to plug a 100 volt compact disc player to a 110 volts transformer? how will it affect such player? thank you in advance.
good day
i just want to ask kung ayos lang ba bumili sa raon ng amplifiers na binebenta duon? napadaan lang ako last weekend doon, wanted to use it for 5.1 ht, ung sana meron dts and thx.
TIA
is it okey to plug a 100 volt compact disc player to a 110 volts transformer? how will it affect such player? thank you in advance.
in some cases you can get away with it, i did.....but why take the risk? ;D
cd players use very small transformers, and at times there is plenty of space inside so that you can just get a 110/220 small traffo and use it as an auto-trafo......or....
you can have that traffo converted to 220 volt primary...wouldn't cost you much...and the conversion can be done in raon, "while you wait".....there are lots of transformer rewinders along the streets of raon.....
Medyo OT tayo since this is a surplus amp thread but I have actually asked a technician to change the transformer of my Victor CDP from 100V to 220V and I was surprised it took him only less than an hour to do it. What he did was buy a transformer with various voltage taps as replacement to the original one.
Yes, I was only charged P350 for everything. I was told the transformer used costs only P250. I checked out how it was done and realized it was really simple since even the 100V transformer's taps have labels which could be the basis in connecting the wires when the 220V transformer is installed.
If only the technician used a more expensive transformer, maybe the hum would not occur when it gets hot.
Sirs, is it okey to plug a 100 volt compact disc player to a 110 volts transformer? how will it affect such player? thank you in advance.
word of caution to those who have their transformers converted: make sure the replacement transformers produce the same secondary voltage and current as the originals. some unscrupulous techs replace only with the nearest value, say 9 or 12 volts for a 10 volt secondary. that would be synonymous to using a 90 or 120 volt supply to your 100 volt equipment.
My question is, would there be a problem with that?
word of caution to those who have their transformers converted: make sure the replacement transformers produce the same secondary voltage and current as the originals. some unscrupulous techs replace only with the nearest value, say 9 or 12 volts for a 10 volt secondary. that would be synonymous to using a 90 or 120 volt supply to your 100 volt equipment.
word of caution to those who have their transformers converted: make sure the replacement transformers produce the same secondary voltage and current as the originals. some unscrupulous techs replace only with the nearest value, say 9 or 12 volts for a 10 volt secondary. that would be synonymous to using a 90 or 120 volt supply to your 100 volt equipment.
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to be on the safe side use 100v transformer. baka lucky me lang ;D
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i wouldn't worry much about this, designers of equipment realize that the real world out there is not perfect....equipment designed for a nominal voltage of 100volts say are expected to operate with lines of 90 to 110 volts.
....
... a non-issue in conversion ... provided of course, its not in the magnitude of probably 20% or more! But still will not guarantee exactly 10V with your gear if plugged in your wall outlet.
... could be false security ...
The truth is that you are lucky enough if you can get 220Vac right at your wall outlet ... and if you are using 220-110 transformer, it might be possible that you will just end up with the desired 100V!
If you are nearby a utility transformer, chances are, you are getting a generous supply as much as 240V.... and that even if you use a 220V-100Vac in this situation will still push the 110V to your equipment. That 100Vac rating on your transformer will be reduced to just letters!
If you are really paranoid to have your equipment suck 100V, then use decent AVR that has 100V output - the servo-control one works great .
Typical operations of an electrical gear is +/- 10% of plate voltage
for quite some time, ive been using stac avr with my jap. surplus gears and had no problems.
then stay as it is.....
Yun nga eh! Pag bumalik ka dun sa lumang equipment mo, malaki ang tsansa na mas maganda pala kaysa sa mga mahal na bago. Mas maganda siguro i-post mo yung photos sa thread ni Southpeak on vintage hifi.
Just to share a similar observation. Three of my amps are now in my wife's Las Pinas home: Musical Fidelity A-120 (40wpc of pure class A); A&R Cambridge (or Arcam) Alpha 6 (50wpc) and a Pioneer SA-710 (20wpc). The MF-A120 is of course a different breed, but between the 20-watt Pioneer SA-710 and the Arcam Alpha 6, the Pioneer SA-710 is significantly superior. And to think that the Arcam Alpha 6 is British high current design than puts out 100wpc @ 4 ohms.
The SA-710 (1973) also beats the Pioneer A-UK3 (1993) which is equivalent to the much hyped Pioneer A-400 (30wpc) designed by John Bamford, a British audio engineer working for Pioneer's UK subsidiary. My take on this is if the "legendary" Pioneer A-400 is really that good as UK publications reported in the early '90s, how come it failed to be appreciated by the hifi market outside UK? BTW, A-UK3's (A-400) typical resale price in the Japanese used market is only 6,000 yen. In comparison the SA-710, despite being 20 years older, is still quoted at 10,000 yen.
so, sir ahobbit; for an ordinary user with no technical or engineering background, no tools and gadgets; may i ask whats the best to use with japanese surplus gears?
for quite some time, ive been using stac avr with my jap. surplus gears and had no problems.
tnx
so, sir ahobbit; for an ordinary user with no technical or engineering background, no tools and gadgets; may i ask whats the best to use with japanese surplus gears?
for quite some time, ive been using stac avr with my jap. surplus gears and had no problems.
tnx
I mentioned it na, and tony confirmed it ...
a decent avr with 100V output is a sure way of getting 100V no matter what's your wall outlet rating +/- of 220V range ... pag 220V lang output mo sa AVR, then get a transformer with 100V output and plug it into your AVR to ensure a steady 220V comes into your transformer and out a steady 100V
anybody heard or own this bulilit blackface pioneer sx770 receiver?
this is the first commercial amp that i cloned in 1976.....the power amp section that is....those days, the pcb lay-out was given on the brochures, that is why it was very easy to copy it.....nice amp, i have done scaled up versions using to-3's, 2n3055's at rails of about 50volts from the original rail of 35volts... ;D
Pogi ng mukha ng Sx770 Mr Ojofool!
Encountered that model many times before...hmmmm
Sked naten, tulungan kita paliguan yan.
:)
you can replace the electrolytic caps in the power amp sectioon, it's been a long time, your amp can use new and fresh caps.....
those days, pcb lay-outs/parts lay-outs were included in the manual...it so i happened i got hold of one... ;D
this is the first commercial amp that i cloned in 1976.....the power amp section that is....those days, the pcb lay-out was given on the brochures, that is why it was very easy to copy it.....nice amp, i have done scaled up versions using to-3's, 2n3055's at rails of about 50volts from the original rail of 35volts... ;D
thanks! thats just what i had in mind. im just curious sir tonyt, theres only one "big" cap beside the smallish transformer in this amp. right now, a replacement chinese-made cap is in place tho i have a 2200uf/50v and 3300uf 50v elnas. the 2200uf fits the hole for the original cap...
can i have a copy of the manual? i'll pm you my email addr if you have time to have it scanned and sent. TIA
i do not have the manual now....anyways, that one big cap is the main filter cap, those days, there just single rails, that is why only one main filter cap....then there are ouput capacitors, on the pcb....
i doubt that the to-66 ouput transistors are still available, but no to worry, there are lots of to-220 replacements out there if the need arises....
i cloned the phono preamp/tone control sections as well.....sold lots of them... ;D is that a working unit btw?
It looks similar to this Japanese-version receiver: http://www.audio-heritage.jp/PIONEER-EXCLUSIVE/amp/sx-65.html
i do not have the manual now....anyways, that one big cap is the main filter cap, those days, there just single rails, that is why only one main filter cap....then there are ouput capacitors, on the pcb....
yup that looks identical.
btw i may have access to a jap yamaha ca-r1 int.amp. limited edition daw ito akin to the ca1000 c1010 ?
I don't know how accurate that info is, but if you look at the time-series data from Yahoo Japan, a CA-1000 series amp sells at an average of 15,000 yen. In comparison, the CA-R1 (limited edition?) comes out at only 7,000 yen.
That confirms. Prices of CA-1000 series amps are from 100,000 yen to 120,000 yen.
yup that looks identical.
btw i may have access to a jap yamaha ca-r1 int.amp. limited edition daw ito akin to the ca1000 c1010 ?
accdg to one site info ---> quasi complementary SEPP-OTL circuit (single ended push pull)
looks more identical to CA-2000
http://www.audio-heritage.jp/YAMAHA/amp/ca-2000.html
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq305/southpeak/For%20Posting/ca-2000.jpg)
CA-R1
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq305/southpeak/For%20Posting/ca-r1.jpg)
cangratulation sir.. review naman :)
Those models are indeed 'mysteries' but not really rarities -- a lot of them drifted here in Davao since late '90s. The Russian hifi sites also showcase many of them.
BTW, the technician who just repaired my Sansui alpha 907 told me a problematic line in the Yamaha series is the magnetic type such as the B6 and the B70 power amps that were based on Robert Carver's (Phase Linear, Carver, and Sunfire) design. These came out in late '70s and early '80s. These are lightweight amps with high RMS ratings. For instance the B6 weighs only 9 kgs. but rated 200wpc at 8 ohms. I'm lucky my B6 is A-ok, otherwise it could be headed for the dumps.
Yes, what we call here as 'Surplus' hifi is expensive/upscale hifi to them. The Chinese are paying more for Japanese vintage than new 'boutique' type hifi that they produce. If you look at their hifi trading sites, their prices for vintage Jap hifi are way over Tokyo's used hifi prices.
A couple of years ago, a Vietnamese vintage hifi enthusiast sent me an email inquiring about my gear since he also has a similar collection. I later found out he's a high-ranking government official. Meron din taga Bangladesh who's an official of an international development agency who has communicated with me in the past on amplifiers similar to what we own.
Rene,
Pier's vintage hifi glory days were over for at least two years now. High-income Americans and Europeans are buying straight from Hifido and other online sources. The English guy who talked to me over the phone from HK two years ago was a lawyer for Lloyd's. Instead of going home straight to London, he traveled to Tokyo just to buy a Sansui a907 amplifier whose used price could go over 200,000 yen for premium models.
Rich Chinese, Thais and Vietnamese are buying from their traders vintage Japan gear at higher than Tokyo prices. Kaya dun na pumunta yung magaganda. Sa atin yung dumadating kung meron pa, mahinang klase, laspag na ang faceplate or cover, at faulty units -- difficult to recycle. Sa madaling salita, true hifi junks na. Kaya kapag merong dumating na maganda, kahit mahal, kuha na -- parang yung Sansui a607 MOS Premium (45wpc) ko at P9K. Medyo masama ang loob ko dun, kasi yung presyong yun dati a907 series na.
For several years now, some posters in this thread have been asking me through PM for amp units I'm selling. For the Nth time, I'm not selling any. I'm happy with just collecting vintage hifi. I also need money but not that urgent.
In fairness to members of this forum, however, if you're serious enough to travel down south to Davao and would like to see my equipment, take your chance on any hifi unit you'd see in my place and if I'm in good mood, I might sell it to you at a good price. That's what Romy Martinez did a month ago, thus he went home with a Sansui AU-D907F at P5K (to be fair and transparent with members of this thread.)
The thing is I don't have the time to ship heavy gear as well as the patience to deal long distance. I admit I have too many in my collection and I'd probably want to limit my amps to only two dozens instead of close to three dozens now. But then again, I'd be equally happy to keep all of them. So, please understand my situation.
I'm leaving for Zambo but I'll be back early next week. After 3 pm Wednesday would be okay. Also Edwin wanted to visit me these past days but I told him I'm still arranging my gear in the living room since my alpha 907 is now back from the repair shop. Maybe you could go together.
For several years now, some posters in this thread have been asking me through PM for amp units I'm selling. For the Nth time, I'm not selling any. I'm happy with just collecting vintage hifi. I also need money but not that urgent.
In fairness to members of this forum, however, if you're serious enough to travel down south to Davao and would like to see my equipment, take your chance on any hifi unit you'd see in my place and if I'm in good mood, I might sell it to you at a good price. That's what Romy Martinez did a month ago, thus he went home with a Sansui AU-D907F at P5K (to be fair and transparent with members of this thread.)
The thing is I don't have the time to ship heavy gear as well as the patience to deal long distance. I admit I have too many in my collection and I'd probably want to limit my amps to only two dozens instead of close to three dozens now. But then again, I'd be equally happy to keep all of them. So, please understand my situation.
Rene,Excluding VAT pa :D
OT, but still related to surplus amp. Kung remote control lang ;D okay pa rin. Pero kung amps na at yung ibang malalaki, ayoko nang magdala diyan. Ang baggage allowance sa eroplano ngayon 15kg na lang, dati 20kg. Tapos nuon ang excess weight 32/kg, ngayon P100/kg na.
Last Monday i chanced upon this Sansui TU-D707 Digitally Quartz Locked Tuner,
although it's Japanese standard, i still bought it and paired it with my AU-D607.
TU-D707 underneath and AU-D607 on top, what a sight! Those black Sansuis
are indeed fantastic! :)
Rene,
OT, but still related to surplus amp. Kung remote control lang ;D okay pa rin. Pero kung amps na at yung ibang malalaki, ayoko nang magdala diyan. Ang baggage allowance sa eroplano ngayon 15kg na lang, dati 20kg. Tapos nuon ang excess weight 32/kg, ngayon P100/kg na.
Nani,
di kita abalahin na pagpadala dito, nag-iipon na ako ng pamasahe. pagtila ulan at hupa ng baha pa-book na ako ;D
para di OT... just got a carver c4000 preamp in place of the bom tube pre. may souvenir na si pareng bob c.
pic from the net:
(http://images.craigslist.org/3n53m63p1ZZZZZZZZZ9779249678566491111.jpg)
Congrats Rene.....mukhang going all vintage ka na....Enjoy the music ;D
Regards,
JoeyGS
tnx joey...nalihis lang ng konti, im downsizing back to t-amp and will try ipod...
That's a nice combo....if only there is a cheaper version of the Wadia transport to be paired with the ipod....audiophile digital bliss talaga
Nani,
di kita abalahin na pagpadala dito, nag-iipon na ako ng pamasahe. pagtila ulan at hupa ng baha pa-book na ako ;D
para di OT... just got a carver c4000 preamp in place of the bom tube pre. may souvenir na si pareng bob c.
pic from the net:
(http://images.craigslist.org/3n53m63p1ZZZZZZZZZ9779249678566491111.jpg)
That's a nice preamp, although the Carver brand was much maligned by US hifi enthusiasts even those in AudioKarma. Still, Bob Carver is an interesting personality with all those vintage hifi he was responsible for. Had he pursued his damage claim arising from his suit, Stereophile would have gone bankrupt a decade ago. Check his classic fight with Stereophile here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Carver
For several years now, some posters in this thread have been asking me through PM for amp units I'm selling. For the Nth time, I'm not selling any. I'm happy with just collecting vintage hifi. I also need money but not that urgent.
In fairness to members of this forum, however, if you're serious enough to travel down south to Davao and would like to see my equipment, take your chance on any hifi unit you'd see in my place and if I'm in good mood, I might sell it to you at a good price. That's what Romy Martinez did a month ago, thus he went home with a Sansui AU-D907F at P5K (to be fair and transparent with members of this thread.)
The thing is I don't have the time to ship heavy gear as well as the patience to deal long distance. I admit I have too many in my collection and I'd probably want to limit my amps to only two dozens instead of close to three dozens now. But then again, I'd be equally happy to keep all of them. So, please understand my situation.
Sir Sandawa,
Again big big thanks for the Sansui AU-D907F.
And of course I really enjoyed talking with you and listening to your gears. The Allman Brothers Band and the Doors sounds awesome in your system. ;D
Hi guys,
Just to let you know. BeatleFred -- the legendary Sansui expert based in New York who has moderated many international Sansui forums -- has just sent me an email informing me he's coming to Manila next month. If there's a chance, we (Sansui owners, esp. Southpeak and LordFoo) could probably hold a meeting depending on his schedule.
Hi guys,
Just to let you know. BeatleFred -- the legendary Sansui expert based in New York who has moderated many international Sansui forums -- has just sent me an email informing me he's coming to Manila next month. If there's a chance, we (Sansui owners, esp. Southpeak and LordFoo) could probably hold a meeting depending on his schedule.
Sir Rene,
Sa ganda talaga ng TU-919, ako kahit japanese domestic equivalent model na TU-D707
tinira ko na din. Tatlo lang ang FM stations ;D but you can somehow feel the unbelievable
sound of FM stereo, even the AM performance is great. Lalo tuloy ako nanggigil sa
TU-919! ;D
PS tama ba? TU-D707 is the equivalent of international model TU-919?
ayos! ako bahala sa agua de pataranta pagdating dito. may dalang vintage stuff?....maski tu-x1 o 919 tuner ayos na!
edit/add: 19kilos pala tu-x1 hehehe
pwede ba yung kabebenta lang ng sansui...lakay sir mardoc! pahiram muna nung au9500...o sansui dvd sawing machine owner? ;D
Rene, di pa sumasayad sa kamay ko AU9500. Pag naayos preamp pwede ko gamitin as poiwer amp or pre amp separately. Like you, I also have an ADCOM GFA-II, hooked up with YAMAHA C70 and driving a vintage ALTEC LANSING 5 and so far it sounds good for my listening pleasure. Regards!
mga sirs,
tanong ko lang kung ano ba dapat ang mga consideration bago ko ipower-up ulit yung mga lumang amps? yung mga acquisition ko kasi dati dinala sa province (Nueva Ecija) and matagal na mga di nagagamit. supposedly kasi sa brothers ko yun eh medyo natenga at naalikabukan na lang, nakalagay lang kasi sa steel rack. They are Sansui AU-D607X, Sansui AU-D907X, Kenwood L-03A, Kenwood 1100SD, Marantz PM84D, Luxman LV102 and Luxman LV117. Yung nandito ko sa Manila is Sansui AU-777 na matagal na din di ko napower-on.
thanks.
dalhin mo sakin bago mo ipost sa forsale yung sansui au-907x kenwood 1100 kenwood l03a. ;D
basta siguraduhim mo lang ang mga voltage settings bago mo power-on. you may want to clean the contacts of the rca jacks and speaker terminal with your choice cleaner. if yuo open the unit, clean the volume pot and selector switch etc ...then leave the rest to God.
thanks sir rene... akala ko leave the rest to you eh... ::) :D
Sir Rene,
Sa ganda talaga ng TU-919, ako kahit japanese domestic equivalent model na TU-D707
tinira ko na din. Tatlo lang ang FM stations ;D but you can somehow feel the unbelievable
sound of FM stereo, even the AM performance is great. Lalo tuloy ako nanggigil sa
TU-919! ;D
PS tama ba? TU-D707 is the equivalent of international model TU-919?
i think i saw surplus a/v receiver units at congressional avenue...
located at the former north performance's carwash...
titopeps san sya malapit? visayas, mindanao o edsa?
Kung rotary tuning yan, i-check mo sa technician na nakakaintindi meron lang yatang papalitan na isang piyesa (chip?) para maging US-standard at makuha mo lahat ng istasyon. Kasi, naalala ko two years ago, may nagpabili sa akin na Chinese trader dito sa Davao nuong part na yun sa Raon pero hindi ako nakabili, kasi out of stock.
Meron akong Sony Japanese standard tuner dito na converted at kuha lahat ang istasyon.
Hi guys,
Just to let you know. BeatleFred -- the legendary Sansui expert based in New York who has moderated many international Sansui forums -- has just sent me an email informing me he's coming to Manila next month. If there's a chance, we (Sansui owners, esp. Southpeak and LordFoo) could probably hold a meeting depending on his schedule.
Hi Sir Nani...pag medyo maluwag schedule ko, baka pede ako maki gatecrash jan.
May mga kilo kilo rin akong bakal dito.
AU-9500- naka garahe...kakambal nung kay ojofool (sana kinuha ko... :()
AU-777-naka garahe
AU-7900- actively running in my set-up
AU-6900-naka garahe
5000A rcvr- in active use...para sa pamilya due to FM/AM .
:D
mga sirs,
tanong ko lang kung ano ba dapat ang mga consideration bago ko ipower-up ulit yung mga lumang amps? yung mga acquisition ko kasi dati dinala sa province (Nueva Ecija) and matagal na mga di nagagamit. supposedly kasi sa brothers ko yun eh medyo natenga at naalikabukan na lang, nakalagay lang kasi sa steel rack. They are Sansui AU-D607X, Sansui AU-D907X, Kenwood L-03A, Kenwood 1100SD, Marantz PM84D, Luxman LV102 and Luxman LV117. Yung nandito ko sa Manila is Sansui AU-777 na matagal na din di ko napower-on.
thanks.
hey dana,
are you disposing those na nakagarahe units mo? ;D i can help you get rid of those if you are interested. ;D
For several years now, some posters in this thread have been asking me through PM for amp units I'm selling. For the Nth time, I'm not selling any. I'm happy with just collecting vintage hifi. I also need money but not that urgent.
So, please understand my situation...
saan ka sa nueva ecija? taga san-isidro, malapit ako, pero nasa pasig ang familiy ko at the moment because my kids are in college...
just make sure that your units are clean inside and out, if you want you can momentarily plug it in at 110volts just so the capacitors have a chance to "reform" after a long lay-off....or you can series connect a 150 lamp for a minute....do not connect speakers nor plug in inputs just as yet...
the purpose of this excercise is to make sure no smoke comes out.... ;D
when everything is clear, then you can use your amp the normal way....type ko yung Sansui AU-D907X.... ;D
Sir Tony, Gapanese po ako. :)
the first barangay in Gapan City after the boundary from Bulacan
but we have some relatives in Malapit and Alua.
Medyo matagal na di nagagamit, yung medyo old na Rotel kasi nakasalang driving old and revived Bose 601 S2.
Sir Tony, Gapanese po ako. :)
the first barangay in Gapan City after the boundary from Bulacan
but we have some relatives in Malapit and Alua.
Medyo matagal na di nagagamit, yung medyo old na Rotel kasi nakasalang driving old and revived Bose 601 S2.
sir tony, di cla babagay sa taste mo, panget cla .
Good day mga sirs,
I was just wondering how hard it is looking for vintage McIntosh amps (ie. 2105) here in Manila?
have been reading your posts with interest..
we have here audio matters, personal matters, even Philippine geography matters..
it really matters to passby this thread once in a while. dami ng inputs!
meron pang mga quotable quotes:
"I'm happy with just collecting vintage hifi. I also need money but not that urgent".. yeah, try listening to manuel roxas and company
"if yuo open the unit, clean the volume pot and selector switch etc ...then leave the rest to God"….inshallah
"As of now, just happy looking at them even if not using them".. hahaha, guilty ;D
para di OT..
once in a while, you get sleepers like this. they just don’t get much attention but connected to a system, aha, its wonderland.. you wonder why you’re the lucky guy who has one.. :D
The DENON PMA-850 integrated
http://www.thevintageknob.org/DENON/PMA850/PMA850.html
http://audio-database.com/DENON-COLUMBIA/amp/pma-850-e.html
http://www.hi-fiworld.co.uk/hfw/oldeworldehtml/denonpma850.html -very interesting review ;)
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq305/southpeak/Denon%20PMA-850/face_1.jpg)
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq305/southpeak/Denon%20PMA-850/back_1.jpg)
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq305/southpeak/Denon%20PMA-850/top_1.jpg)
will post later in the gallery.
thank you for keeping the vintage spirit alive.. :)
I have the PMA-830 which is the small brother of the PMA-850.
may nagpost dati ng tanong -saan sa qc may surplus gears...medyo mahal nga lang
eto link> http://2ndstage.sulit.com.ph/
violy sotto
18b congressional ave. brgy. ramon magsaysay, quezon city, Metro Manila - Quezon City
Contact Nos. : 4078809 or 927-4971, 09175009705
okey lang, yung akin e baka sakali lang.... ;D
anyway, if there is a vintage gear i would like to collect, that would be the Pioneer SPEC1 AND SPEC2......i will buy them in any condition, basta mukhang komplete sa labas.... ;D
I saw a sansui 7070 and sansui 8010 receiver selling for 5K, without the haggling. Has anybody tried these? are these receivers any good?
tony i had the chance to buy those pioneer models but i never knew you wanted them. sayang...
I have a sansui au-1100. Lower version of the sansui professional series. It says that the microphone and the headphone jacks are loaded. What does this mean? Thanks. :)
I have a sansui au-1100. Lower version of the sansui professional series. It says that the microphone and the headphone jacks are loaded. What does this mean? Thanks. :)
Sure sir. Will upload the pictures of the inside next time. :)
Hello Everyone. I have an OLD AVR http://audio-database.com/DENON-COLUMBIA/amp/avc-2000-e.html. I have tried connecting old speakers (from a mini component) and the sound is good. Any input on how to make use of it will be appreciated, like is it worth buying speakers to match this equipment, what speakers shall i get. Right now my setup is laptop (Dell Studio) with HDMI and Pana 37x10, i am just using the monitor out (Audio) of the TV going into the AVR. Is this better than buying HTIB?
Your ideas will be highly appreciated. TIA.
Hey there is an HK 330c for sale at one of the thrift shops in cubao Marikina Expo.
A few months ago, binibigay na sa akin for 2500 but was not in the market for an amplifier so i let it pass. It is working and is still there i think and they are using the unit as their regular store amplifier.
I saw that one in cubao expo. It is a KK 330 B. If you are in that area there is an MSM store that sells surplus form the states. They have Sansui vintage tuners. They also have vintage speakers :)
Koss at jap.surplus? afaik, koss= headphones and speakers. ewan lang kung gumawa sila ng amplifiers.
Sir Rene, kamot ulo nga ako nung makita ko e. Alangan namang head amp yun? napakalaki at napakabigat para sa headamp, although may 2 headphone outputs sa harap. kaya lang, bat me binding post sa likod? di ko napakingan kasi wala silang preamp!
Since very little is known about the Koss power amp it may not be the right time to take your chances. Try and look around for other amps in the vicinity. Something better might show up. When I was there last week I saw a Pioneer M-73 power amp, Technics SU-V9 int amp, Sony TA-F6 int amp, Sony TA-F7 (VFET) int amp, Yamaha A-1 int amp just to name a few.
oo nga, why are so called vintage amplifiers often sound better (less harsher, full bodied) than modern ones? today's electronics is supposed to be superior. ???
oo nga, why are so called vintage amplifiers often sound better (less harsher, full bodied) than modern ones? today's electronics is supposed to be superior. ???
A few months ago, I bought a complete audio analogue system; a paganini cd player and a pucini se amp. Not being contented, I upgraded the amp to pucini setetanta to try out how 70watts will affect the sound imaging. It was melodious to say the least. Unfortunately a few weeks ago, I bought a marantz pm 550dc and I cant believe the sound coming out. It was fantastic to say the least. the unit cost me less than 10k and it sounded better than my system! I can't believe it. Now I'm hooked. I started looking for vintage marantz in Manila but I guess there is a reason why they call it vintage. it is difficult to find. I started ordering from the internet and hopefully, I get it before the end of the year :) If there is any good soul here looking to sell their vintage marantz, think of me :) I'm in the market to change my whole system.
(http://www.egi-electronics.com/images/pm550dc.bmp)
maybe because it was the Golden Era of Audio,
where most talented Audio designers abound.
parang Renaissance period baga, kung san nagsulputan ang mga genius.
nowadays, halos puro application na lan with some twists /flavors ng mga patented discoveries nila.
:)
soemthing to think about, ;D they were saying the same when triodes were upstaged by pentodes in the mass market scene.....that was a good 50 ~ 60 years ago.
I was able to buy this recently. Sounds charmingly sweet with a nice sound stage. But its lonely and needs a another pair. Anyone knows where?
(http://audio-heritage.jp/LO-D/amp/hma-8500.JPG)
Gud day! Anyone here has or experienced using a Pioneer SA-8900 Mk2, integrated amp, 100v japan version. I believe the american equivalent is the SA-9500 mk2.
A friend is offering me one but need to know if this is a good amp with audiophile grade soundquality. Can it level with other classic amps? Tnx :)
Gud day! Anyone here has or experienced using a Pioneer SA-8900 Mk2, integrated amp, 100v japan version. I believe the american equivalent is the SA-9500 mk2.
A friend is offering me one but need to know if this is a good amp with audiophile grade soundquality. Can it level with other classic amps? Tnx :)
I was able to buy this recently. Sounds charmingly sweet with a nice sound stage. But its lonely and needs a another pair. Anyone knows where?call this number 407-8809 VIOLY ihahanap kayo sa Japan ;)
(http://audio-heritage.jp/LO-D/amp/hma-8500.JPG)
dont want to offend you,suggestion lang.
since he is a friend, why not borrow and listen to it in your set-up?
ano po ba ang "audiophile grade soundquality" , in your own definition ???, iba iba kasi ang response ng tenga and likes natin.
however, these gears i believe conform to certain form of known audio standards to pass quality gates.
so, i believe its a matter of preference and being subjective.
thanks
edrel, please tell me kung gustong i dispose nung nakabile...... ;DBro may alam ako Pioneer SA 8800 if you like P6,000.00. Taga Novaliches ang seller. Let me know para samahan kita. Pina reserve ko yan kasi parang gusto ko swap iyong Yamaha CA 1000 ko. Kso pinag iisipan ko pa kung swap or benta ko ng 6,500 Yamaha. Text me 09154203626 kung gusto mo magpunta. Sunday ako available. :)
Taga Novaliches ang seller.
sya ba si aboy? meron kasing pinsan ang wife ko na taga roon at nagba buy and sell ng audio gears....Korek ka diyan sir.. Si Adoy..long time friend ko. Baka maka discount ka pa. :)
Korek ka diyan sir.. Si Adoy..long time friend ko. Baka maka discount ka pa. :)
Just acquired a Technics SU-V9 amplifier from the Pier yesterday.How is the sound compare to NAD or any good amps at its category? :)
(http://www.audio-heritage.jp/TECHNICS/amp/su-v9.JPG)
From my early impressions, compared to the Hafler DH-220 it is much more detailed and has wider soundstage. Don't know how to put in English but - mas manipis ng konti tumunog. And, the base of the Technics is much more distinct. I also think is sounds more analog when used on my CDPs - I have a Sony CDP-301V, 228ESD and X333ES.Congrats bro.and enjoy. Pag sawa ka na let me know.. ;D
having a repair shop in the 90's afforded me a look inside many of these japanese amps, specially those coming from saudi and those brought in by japayuki's...... ;D
Did the japayukis pay you in kind ? ;D :D ;D ::) ;D ::)
Hello sirs,
If you were to choose between
Pioneer SA-8800 II
(http://audio-database.com/PIONEER-EXCLUSIVE/amp/sa-8800ii-e.html)
and
Trio KA-7300
(http://translate.google.com.ph/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://audio-heritage.jp/TRIO-KENWOOD/amp/ka-7300.html&ei=OaYbS6bjJMGLkAXnt7ngAw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CCIQ7gEwBA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dtrio%2Bka%2B7300%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3DxZb)
nasa niji rin: http://translate.google.com.ph/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.niji.or.jp/home/k-nisi/ka-7300.htm&ei=OaYbS6bjJMGLkAXnt7ngAw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CBUQ7gEwAQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dtrio%2Bka%2B7300%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3DxZb
which would you choose? Anyone care to share his experience with either or both of these items?
BTW, I got the Pioneer. I could still replace it with the Trio, if needed, since I would still be going back for the Sansui AU-D607F.
Thanks.
Bro may alam ako Pioneer SA 8800 if you like P6,000.00. Taga Novaliches ang seller. Let me know para samahan kita. Pina reserve ko yan kasi parang gusto ko swap iyong Yamaha CA 1000 ko. Kso pinag iisipan ko pa kung swap or benta ko ng 6,500 Yamaha. Text me 09154203626 kung gusto mo magpunta. Sunday ako available. :)
Nice catch! :)
Pampalit muna habang nirerepair yung sansui ko. :)
Mas mataba yung tunog ng Victor niya kumpara sa Sansui AU-D907 Limited sa parehong technics SB-M3 speaker. Pero bumigay yung Sansui bago ko makumpara ng maigi. :(
D naman siguro, o d ko mahuhuli pagkakaiba nila pag napakingan ko :) ... Baka todong paglilinis ang tenga para marinig diperensya.hehehe
Just saw the following amps at the pier:
1. Pioneer SA-8900 II- 80 WPC
2. Luxman LV-105- 105 WPC (6 Ohms)
3. Marantz PM-74D- (la sa audio-heritage site e yung model na to e :))
4. Sansui alpha 607DR- 90 WPC
5. Denon PMA-701- 70 WPC
6. Sony ES-333 ESXII- 105 WPC
I got a victor a-x1000 as seen on the following site;
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.niji.or.jp%2Fhome%2Fk-nisi
Has anyone tried this?
Happy Hunting ;D
mga sir papano ba mag punta sa pier, saan sakayan nito exacly sa lawton at saan bababa? ty.daming jeep dun sa lawton dadaanan mismo ng jeep yan sa pier.
mga sir papano ba mag punta sa pier, saan sakayan nito exacly sa lawton at saan bababa? ty.
mga sir, mga magkano ba price-range ng mga surplus amp sa Pier? besides may alam pa ba kayo bilihan ng mga vintage amp. TIA :)
Bka may ma-recommend kayo Store dun sa Pier mga masters. Anong jeep po sasakyan if nasa Quiapo po ako? Thanks.Sa plaza fair ng quiapo, jeepning papuntang pier lang sakyan mo. ang daming jeep dyan. actually konti na lang yung mga stores sa pier for the amplifier and other japan surplus. Hindi katulad noon na sangkatutak.
saw some yamaha and sony recievers with DTS. the bantay quoted me for 15K.ok thanks sir. 15k :o sa brandnew na ko may local 1yr. warranty pa. ;D
Better buy an brand new amp
^ The white font on top reads "Torio Service". Also I believe that the red characters are their signature(hanko).
Hello
Today I bought a Sansui B2301 at Hifido lef to await the arrival of the power amplifier to power the Infinity Renaissance 90
http://audio-database.com/SANSUI/amp/b-2301-e.html
Hi Terii, long time no-hear from you. That's a heavyweight and very expensive I'm sure. Congratulations! how I wish something like that drifts to our islands. I had placed orders (for smaller items) at Hifido a couple of times since early last year but I was unlucky and always lose to European buyers.POSTSCRIPT: I just checked Hifido. So, you're the buyer of B-2301 last week at 113,000 yen (over 1,000 euros). Including courier charge from Tokyo to Paris, I could be wrong, but your total cost for the B-2301 (37 kilograms) would be approaching (or over)2,000 euros for this unit?
POSTSCRIPT: I just checked Hifido. So, you're the buyer of B-2301 last week at 113,000 yen (over 1,000 euros). Including courier charge from Tokyo to Paris, I could be wrong, but your total cost for the B-2301 (37 kilograms) would be approaching (or over)2,000 euros for this unit?
Wow! Nice catch.Hi
...it bothers me not that it is 100 volts
requires a very large voltage transformer
However, I'm one who believes that Japanese domestic units in general are more superior compared with Japan-brand units sold abroad including those in the US.
i believe this to be true....no less than a japanese technician from Murbeni told me this sometime in the late 70's..... ;)
dieseldust,
Yes, there are two versions of Pioneer A-8800, the Japanese and the US models. The US model looks better though with power meter window and blue fluoroscan. However, I'm one who believes that Japanese domestic units in general are more superior compared with Japan-brand units sold abroad including those in the US. That's because the international models were meant to compete in the mass market where quality is often sacrificed for looks. IMHO, however, the better Jap domestic unit comparable and probably even better than the US SA-8800 fluroscan model is the SA-8800X, which has two separate transformers likely with enough headroom to reproduce more accurately those low notes.
seanongpogi,
I'm hesitant to reply to your query since I'm not a 'master' and I haven't owned an M-73. But since no one was answering, the easy way for me to make a decision when confronted by this problem is to look at original and resale values available online.
The original price is here:
http://www.audio-heritage.jp/PIONEER-EXCLUSIVE/amp/m-73.html
Look here for time series used price:
http://yackdb.s138.xrea.com/auview.php?m=M-73
I did call William and he was very helpful. Thanks again for referring me to him. I'm planning on buying a Pioneer analog receiver since I didn't see one during my shopping. Baka si sir William meron dun sa Davao. I'll inquire him about the receiver next week.
Waiting for your pic at Vintage Gallery ;)
Would like to inquire who among you guys have a NEC A-10 and what are your impressions.
Just a tip. The Sansuis, Pioneers, Marantz, etc. in the Marketplace section are priced very low considering the quality of those models and how 'bb3', the owner, took good care of those units. I know the seller personally. He's a collector not a trader and is not after profit but merely trimming his collection.:o :o :o :o :o :o :o
I too would like to sell over half of my amps and speaker pairs at roughly my acquisition cost and would be happy with just a dozen amps and probably a dozen-and-a-half speaker pairs at home. Unfortunately, it's not easy selling here in Davao. Shipping the units to Manila is a hassle and requires additional cost of over P1,000 per unit. That's because about 75% of my amps are over 20kgs in weight and air freight Davao-Manila is P60/kg.
I still consider these 'surplus amps', kasi galing lahat sa Japan -- pili nga lang hindi na nabigyan ng chance na ma-display sa mga tindahan. From importer-trader friends, tapos diretso sa akin.
Lucky you. These Japan surplus amps that were flagships in their days are often superior to any 90s Rotel, Cambridge, Musical Fidelity, NAD and HK integrateds.
P7.5k for NEC A-10 is reasonable, even cheap. I own an A-10 Type IV which I bought about 5 years ago. Used to be one of my favorites since it has good deep bass and could compete with the best at moderate room listening volume. The excellent low-frequency response is maybe due to its two big transformers (unit weight is 28kgs if I'm not mistaken although RMS rating is only 60wpc.) It has no tone controls, and I use it as power amp. Mine has three sets of speaker terminals, the first one labeled 'Direct' whatever that means.just want to share some experience w/ this amp [NEC A-10]. although the specs sheet says 60wpc, i use this amp to drive my thiel w/out hiccups, this NEC can go up 120wpc at 4 ohms.
Just a tip. The Sansuis, Pioneers, Marantz, etc. in the Marketplace section are priced very low considering the quality of those models and how 'bb3', the owner, took good care of those units. I know the seller personally. He's a collector not a trader and is not after profit but merely trimming his collection.
I too would like to sell over half of my amps and speaker pairs at roughly my acquisition cost and would be happy with just a dozen amps and probably a dozen-and-a-half speaker pairs at home. Unfortunately, it's not easy selling here in Davao. Shipping the units to Manila is a hassle and requires additional cost of over P1,000 per unit. That's because about 75% of my amps are over 20kgs in weight and air freight Davao-Manila is P60/kg.
Boy, I'm sorry I get tactless sometimes in giving my opinion and comparing vintage/surplus hifi I have used or currently using. I believe the A-10X is superior compared with older A-10 models if HifiDo pricing is used as indicator. I almost texted you on the Sansui AU-D907 yesterday. Buti na lang nakapagpigil. Ayoko nang magdagdag, unless may mga Sansui limited edition na dumating, or '90s edition valve models would suddenly show up. Bahala na!
I'm focused these past days on a new combi: Luxman SQ-38FDII (1976) feeding Yamaha B3 (1980-VFET) and driving JBL 4313 (1979). I bought about 500 pieces of '50s to '70s almost-mint condition LPs from a warehouse here. Apparently, these came from an American vinyl collector -- about two hundred of Miles Davis, Bird, Coleman Hawkins, Chet Baker and other jazz legends -- covering 5 LPs daily, since early September. I'd say magical dynamic valve sound from these 30-year old gear reproducing 40- to 60-year old recordings.
BTW, for those who sent PMs, one or two I failed to reply to, I'm not sure yet, which ones I'd sell. PM me before mid-November, I'll be in Manila before Christmas.
Hi masters,
i have a sansui au-d707, and i would like its transistor to be replaced, (because the left channel's tranny is leaking i think.)
my problem is i can't seem to find a replacement for it., the original part is nma1216 and nmc1216, even its 2sc and 2sa replacement is hard to find.. hope someone can help or direct me where can i find those tranny.. Thanks in advance
Don't sweat it Nani. I understood what you meant.
I just wanted to point out also how these NEC series, largely unknown in the local audio arena, can really be 'sleepers'
just waiting for the audio community to discover their superior performance.
The dual mono A10X was constructed, I believe, in the same vein as the Cellos, Krells, etc.
Gold binding posts and thick copper chassis bed are just some features that put the A10X several notches above the rest. Even the location of the AC cable mukhang pinagisipan. It runs from the bottom/middle of the unit and not from the regular rear panel location.
Just talking about this really gives me second thoughts if I will let it go or stay.
As you mentioned - Bahala na! ;D
sir bb3 if you decided to let it go
Please reserve it to me.. :D
baka me matanawan kayong PIONEER SPEC2 paki pm lang please... ;D
If Japanese buyers' preference is used as basis (see HifiDo's past transactions), assuming both units are in same condition, the Sansui would be a better buy. The highest last transaction of a607 at HifiDo was quoted 35,000 yen while the Integra 917F was sold 30,000 yen.
ibig sabihin sir, wala ako masyado makikitang performance upgrade sa Integra917 from Sansui a607 ko?
salamat sa reply sir.
nagpost na ako sa LF thread mo at piniem # ni nani (tukayo ni sandawa)
Kung ako sa 'yo, bibigyan ko ng full amount yung nagbebenta ng Onkyo 917F. Pero may option to return, say 2 days, with 'rent' of P250 (or P150) per day. Ibig sabihin, kung hindi ka satisfied, isosoli mo ang unit balik ang pera mo less P500 for the 2 days you used it.
Kung magustuhan mo ang unit compared with a607, wala nang solian ng unit at ng pera. I-dispose mo na lang yung Sansui a607 mo. At least hindi ka magsisisi dahil pinili mo yung gusto mo.
I did that a couple of times here in Davao, I usually risk P500 for a two-day trial of amps costing over P5k. At least I'm sure I got what I want.
planning to buy a surplus integrated amplifier.
is the sony TA-F5 amplifier a good buy?
(http://gallery.audioreview.com/data/audio//505/medium/Sony_TA-F5_Stereo_Power_Amplifier_old_vintage_silver_amp_home_receiver.jpeg)
one way to know is to listen to it, better with your own set of speakers and your source material.
if its good to your liking, go for it...
to some, the more you read manuals or info related to this hobby, the more confused you become & the more you doubt your judgement ;D
i like vu meters :D
Mga sir any AVR available kaya dito sa manila? meron po bang surplus store that I can visit? planning to set my own HT. salamat po..or baka merong nag bebenta jan 7.5K below po ang budget ko. salamat..
Mga sir any AVR available kaya dito sa manila? meron po bang surplus store that I can visit? planning to set my own HT. salamat po..or baka merong nag bebenta jan 7.5K below po ang budget ko. salamat..
meron kasi dito sa cebu, di ko lang alam kung worth keeping tong amp na to...
sony TA-F5, info naman po dyan! ;D ;D ;D
buti pa sa Cebu at Davao mukhang tuloy tuloy ang bagsak ng mga vintage amps at speaker...sa pier wala na yata talagang bagsak. :(
Wala na rin dumadating dito sa Davao. The last good model -- Luxman L550 -- that I got early this year came from a Cebu dealer of Jap audio surplus.
What happened, if I'm not mistaken, was Jap consumers have already adjusted to the government's new electrical standard that was imposed about 3 or 4 years ago. Since yung lumang equipment non-compliant sa new standard, binenta nila or binigay sa recyclers bago na-implement officially yung bagong policy. We benefited from that since the early discards were sent to our ports and sold by local traders at "junk" prices (remember the controversial JPEPA -- zero customs duties for imported recyclable materials from Japan?).
Also, Jap vintage hifi are sold at a premium in Shanghai and other major cities in China, up to 10 times higher than the price we buy those items (high-end hifi sa kanila yan at mas mahal kaysa locally made 'upscale audio' products). Kaya yung mga recyclers sa Japan, sa Chinese traders na nagbenta starting 2007 as per stories from Davao importers/traders.
If you badly need a good Jap hifi gear, the best way is to get it from HifiDo like what American and European audiophiles are doing. But be prepared to pay more. The original Luxman L-550, for instance, would sell at about $1,000 in Hifido before freight charges. I got two units of this from the local suppliers at an average acquisition cost of less than P10k each.
There are bargains though -- an example is Technics SL1200 series, a new edition mint unit could be bought as low as $200. Dito kahit sugatan na ang SL1200 tumatakbo pa ng P20k. Also, cartridges and some audio accessories (mostly useless, but good for bragging) are also cheaper via HifiDo.
Less problem kung receiver ang gusto mo. Kasi ang Japan receivers naman hindi mo magagamit ang tuner, hanggang 90 Mhz lang ang FM. You have to scout from local ads for receivers issued in US -- kuha lahat ng istasyon. Got one -- MCS 3233 (JC Penney brand) -- last month from a warehouse here that buys used stuff from Goodwill in the US.
Kasing laki at kamukha ng Pioneer/Technics heavyweights pero apa ang loob. About 10 kgs lang pero 19X7 inches. Sa 30 wpc, disente na ang tunog after pairing it with JBL 316 Pro in my living room. Sabi nila gawa raw ito ng Technics or Kenwood, likely inferior parts, and rebadged as 'Modular Component Systems' for JC Penney. At least pwedeng pang-harabas, P2k lang naman.
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Pwede mag-rechannel/re-tune ng Japanese receivers/tuners pero hindi ganun kaganda ang labas. Maingay, or hindi pa rin makuha lahat. Malaki ang diprensya sa original 88-108 Mhz na US/Philippine tuner standard. Kaya hindi nagpasok ang mga importers ng maraming Jap receivers dito sa Davao dahil binabalik ng buyers yung mga unang benta. Unlike the amplifiers where buyers don't have much expectations. Basta nakalagay sa likod at least "100 watts" at binabayo yung "200-watt" speakers nila (kailangan daw pala at least doble ang rating ng speakers, sabi nung mga tambay dito ;D ;D ;D ), okay na.
Yes, the MCS was bought here in Davao. I saw a smaller Superscope receiver (with the label 'Superscope by Marantz' at the back) quoted at P1.5k when I bought the MCS but I was in a hurry and it has no sound when I first tested it. It was gone a few hours later when I returned to the warehouse.
gudpm!! sa mga master.......... may naka try na ba d2 na mag series ng trans4mer ng surplus amp ex. sansui 907 dalawa ang trans4mer nito iniisip q kc pag series mo ito puede ng isaksak sa 220 volts...
ah ok tnxs... try q khapon eh, ang nangyari ung secondary mas mataas ung isa 47volts ung isa ay42volts kaya binalik ko na lang sa dati
ok thanks.... san kaya magandang magparewind?
Hi All! It's been awhile since I posted here, medyo na iba ang bisyo. ::) But lately I have been tinkering again with my audio toys, hirap talikuran talaga! ;D I recently acquired a rare Sansui AU- Alpha 507 MRV in good condition. I bought it on impulse since it's an alpha series though this model was a more recent (1997) product from Sansui. I've owned earlier alpha series versions and found them very nice thus I expect similarly on this one. And I was not disappointed ! :o
The sound of this relatively newer alpha series is for me more transparent and has deeper bass than the earlier alpha series, though generally the midrange is a bit thinner. But this was augmented with a sweet and open sound.
Now I've seen models like the alpha i, mrx, nra,mosfet series, etc. in the net but this mrv is very hard to researched on. Can I ask the experts here a short history, review on this alpha 507 mrv? Is this model be considered a collectors item? TIA :)
Here are some pics of the unit I found on the net (exactly the same as my actual unit) :
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hey guys meron dito sa bacolod japan surplus super mahal.ang lupit ng price..maganda nga pero the price is very high.. :)
here's the pic i took last year. pero sold na ;D
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hey guys meron dito sa bacolod japan surplus super mahal.
here's the pic i took last year. pero sold na ;D
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About 5 years ago when we had so many used Japanese amps arriving here in Davao, the Sansui a707i would be quoted at P5k and the D-707x at P4.5k. The last time I saw an a707i, two years ago I think, the price was P6k and a D-707x at P5k. I think your traders there in Bacolod are using HifiDo as price reference -- those amps are still selling in Japan's used market at roughly $500 each.gd pm po. i'm a newbie here and medyo familiar sa davao city area. tanong ko lang po kung san ang area sa davao city ang bentahan ng surplus amps esp luxman( kung meron). i usually stay at woodridge park in maa when i'm in davao.
I bought a near mint condition vintage sansui AU-555A in pier, about 4 or 5 yrs ago. haggled it for 2.3K without the step down voltage transformer. it has separate bass, midrange (YES! midrange) and treble controls. I see indications it was manufactured in Japan in 1971. I haven't replaced any capacitors or any parts inside, its build is very good.I have Sansui AU-666 and the sound is really natural. Paired it with my Diatone speaker and every morning ang sarap mag sound.
Lately I paired it with a used acoustic research M4 holographic imaging speaker I got from a garage sale, ...and the music is.... very sweet, very musical.... I love the midrange....and the bass.... no need for subwoofer for well recorded CDs...
It has been compared to having a sound very close to that of a tube amp. see below:
Here's a bit of the good description from http://www.sansui.us/Amplifiers.htm
"Once upon a time, Sansui was a mere transformer manufacturer. It was natural progress that Sansui started manufacturing amplifiers and tuners in its early history. In the late 1950Â’s to the early 1960Â’s, Sansui had developed a sense of mission to be a world class audiophile manufacture. That was the reason that Sansui introduced the first pre-main (integrated) tube amplifier SM-88 in Japan. Sansui introduced only two more tube integrated amplifiers, AU-70 and AU-111, before they moved forward to the solid state silicon transistor amplifier, AU-777 in 1967.
From 1967 to 1970, Sansui introduced the array of the single number three digits integrated amplifiers. They were AU-222, AU-333, AU-555, AU-666, AU-777, AU-888, and AU-999 followed by improved versions; AU-555A and AU-777D. The sound of this series was very close to that of tube amps. Even mixing with tube amplifiers with frequency divided multi-power amps system, it sounded natural".
Any tips when buying surplus gear from the pier? Balak ko kasi bumili dun ng integrated amps
Any tips when buying surplus gear from the pier? Balak ko kasi bumili dun ng integrated amps
Mabigat at hindi gaanong maporma. Kapag sinilip mo yaring tanso iyung kaha at mga heatsink tapos dambuhala mga capacitor at transformer tapos presyong halos konti lang lagpas sa abot kaya, huwag ka ng mag-alinlangan bilhin mo na. O hindi kaya i-reserve mo na at utangin mo na ang kulang. Kunin mo na agad baka may makauna pa sa iyo.
How much po ngayon bentahan ng integrated/stereo amp sa pier?
Any tips when buying surplus gear from the pier? Balak ko kasi bumili dun ng integrated amps
thanks for all the replies. but aside from the pier, where could i get good, cheap and quality integrated amps from?
nope, may nakita kasi ako na nag bebenta ng au907x, sabi ko nga sobra mahal, ayaw mag patawad
Yun sa pc park japan sa cubao yun. mahal talaga. merun ako kung may interesado.heheheh
are you guys willing to pay 28k for sansui Au 907x ??
Yun sa pc park japan sa cubao yun. mahal talaga. merun ako kung may interesado.heheheh
are you guys willing to pay 28k for sansui Au 907x ??
Yun sa pc park japan sa cubao yun. mahal talaga. merun ako kung may interesado.heheheh
Halos wala ng surplus shops sa pier for audio electronics. Mas mabenta ngayon surplus bikes and furnitures as I see it. @juanbote is right, most surplus audio items are redirected to Vietnam or China, which is funny, since as we know China is the oem makers of almost all know electronic brands. But, it seems Chinese audiophiles, still prefers Japan made products. This says a lot of the quality of domestic Japan products and also reflects the quality of the new breed of audio products. ::)baka i clone din ng china ang mga amp na ito. :D
I also want to know if meron pa bang good source of surplus audio electronics sa metromanila or talagang nearing extinct na. :D
newbie here pero matagal na akong lurker sa site na to. Saw this Yamaha a-1 and victor a-x55 this morning. Pinili ko yung yamaha over victor kasi parang mas maganda yung tunog nya. yung speaker pala na ginamit namin ay diatone ds-73dii. i bought the amplifier and speaker for 6.5k. maganda din ba yung victor a-x55?
Pgawa mo yung yamaha a-1. Worth it yan.
im here at hongkong. i saw surplus amps and speaker here. baka may gusto kayo ipahanap
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Looking for a small JBL L250 speakers, pwede hand carry let me know if you find any
thanks
im here at hongkong. i saw surplus amps and speaker here. baka may gusto kayo ipahanap
maraming salamat mga masters. :)
May nakita din po akong TRIO KA-900. hndi ko napakinggan tumunog kasi nagmamadali ako. maganda din po ba 'to? konte lng kasi ang reviews nya sa net.
Nagbibiro lang po ako ;D,sir sandawa maganda po ba ang sony esprit ta-902 power amp. sana po mabigyan mo ako ng magandang impormasyon tungkol dito salamat po.
Ganon po ba sir, buti itong skin cracking lang problema kaya dinala ko sa technician sa Pasig kay Mel Navarrete kya lang malayo Paranaque kc ako. Yung au-919 ko masyadong mainit kya binenta ko na kay Forseti, sir ano pong speaker ang gamit nyo sa a907
Ganon po ba sir, buti itong skin cracking lang problema kaya dinala ko sa technician sa Pasig kay Mel Navarrete kya lang malayo Paranaque kc ako. Yung au-919 ko masyadong mainit kya binenta ko na kay Forseti, sir ano pong speaker ang gamit nyo sa a907
Bro banesto, pwede ko po malaman kung taga saan banda si Mel Navarrete dito sa pasig at merun po ba kayo contact number ng shop nya... Thanks po. :)Oo bro. Vhinx, taga Mangahan, Pasig along Magsaysay St., lampas ng Iglesia ni Kristo. Eto #09173271287 at 4667337. Thanks brod vhinx
ako din papm ng contact number hehehe...in the futureYes brod raider, this is the #4667337 at 09173271287. Magaling sa vintage amp yan.
From experience, effective ang a907 series mag-drive ng big woofers -- 15-inch types. Kaya nuon JBL-4430 (now bi-amped with a pair of Sansui AU-X11s) ang nakakabit sa a907iMos ko. Ngayon yung Technics SB-7000 na. Maganda rin ang resulta. Kayang-kaya niyang palabasin yung deep bass ng big woofers di tulad ng iba kong amplifiers, even those rated 160wpc and above in RMS, parang bitin mag-drive ng big woofers.Dapat po pala JBL L series ang hanapin ko. Nagkaroon ako ng Dynaudio Audience 60 di nagmatch kaya binitawan ko, sa ngaun B&W 602 S3 ang gamit ko sa a907.
Yes brod raider, this is the #4667337 at 09173271287. Magaling sa vintage amp yan.Anak ng putakte..hehehe…ung technics ko na 8080a nagtampo ata , naghahanapn daw kasi ako ng technician lol
Anak ng putakte..hehehe…ung technics ko na 8080a nagtampo ata , naghahanapn daw kasi ako ng technician lol
Kanina while playing around 40-60mins at 10oclock vol biglang nawala ung sounds sa speaker – hindi naman mainit ung amp
nakaON pa din naman ung amp and cd player was still playing
pinatay ko den lumabas ulit ung sounds then parang pumupunta sya sa protect mode…after a minute
so ginawa ko pahinga after 30mins played Olivia ONG songs nakatapos ng 5songs then nagpalit ako ng cd – craig david – nawala ulit ung kanta Dalhin mo kay Mel yan chicken feed lng yan brod raider
usually I use the amp more than 5hours pero now ko lang naexp to hehe..
so turn off and on nagprotect mode ulit
so what I did was to there was a setting sa amp DC and LOW CUT 2hz
always naka DC si MAIN – theres a light indicator for DC
binaba ko sya sa LOW Cut then everything was fine I played for 30mins kaya lang papunta na ako office…bukas ko ulit kalikutin…bakit kaya..??
any opinion guys? salamat
Oo bro. Vhinx, taga Mangahan, Pasig along Magsaysay St., lampas ng Iglesia ni Kristo. Eto #09173271287 at 4667337. Thanks brod vhinx
Possible clipping problem... Merun ng faulty transistor sa main amp.bro vhinx
Eto din yata yun pinakausap sakin ni bro joseph dati... Btw, Thanks a lot bro. ;)
bro vhinx
wats the diff of the DC and the LOWCUT sa MAIN?
parehas lang naman tunog nya. sensya na noob.
i will test it tom. again
I'm not sure bro, pero yun DC was supposed to be for Direct Control sa main amps which means for pre-amp bypass, merun din ako amp dati na Vintage Onkyo Integra na merun din DC servo na nasa clipping control section naman. Yun LOWCUT naman ang pag kakaalam ko sa pre-amp LOW & High's filtering in the other terms is "Subsonic Filter"... Wait lang tayo sa mga Master of Vintage gear for further explanation sa concern mo bro. ;)
dc and low cut this morning when i tried it - isang kanta lang den mawawala ung kanta..
so far everything was good after checking maluwag ung speaker cables sa likod ng amp nahila siguro it could be the cause of the problem....10tracks steady ang no problems...
happy with my TECHNICS 8080a again....
bro vhinx
wats the diff of the DC and the LOWCUT sa MAIN?
Nice to hear bro... congrats, hehee... :)
Yup mag kaiba sila, yun Lowcat for pre-amp filtering na pag switch mo sya ay mag change freq yun Low and/or even high's... Yun DC if I not mistaken use for source direct to the main amp (at hindi na dadaan pa sa pre-amp which is tone control - BASS & TREBLE)...
bro banesto walang kang mensahe hahaMeron akong mensahe nagtataka nga ako bkit wala dyan. ang mensahe ko ay sisiw lng yan problema mo kay Mel Navarrete. :) :) :) :)
Ok na pala amp mo brod raider, gud news hehe. pag may mabigat na problema brod u can get in touch w/ Mel.
ok na ulit hahaha... 7am to 1pm na ako nagpapatugtog lintek sarap lalong tumatagal sumsarap - meralcon consumer of the month ako nito hahaha....
sa speaker wires lang na naglose - pwede palang makaaffect un......thanks the amp stil love me
Ok na pala amp mo brod raider, gud news hehe. pag may mabigat na problema brod u can get in touch w/ Mel.
Ok na pala amp mo brod raider, gud news hehe. pag may mabigat na problema brod u can get in touch w/ Mel.
Sori to say na di sya nag hahouse service, very busy kc cya. Pero sulit naman pagod mo pag dinala mo doon. Thanks brod
Question bro, nagha-house service ba sya? May ipapaayos akong ampli. Thanks.
mga braders, need your comments pls.
napadaan ako kanina sa isang japan surplus shop, may nakita akong sansui AU alpha555 and a marantz PM90. I tested the PM90, kya lang di maganda yata condition ng speakers, pero good sounding pa rin, they are selling for 7500. does anybody knows kung magkano na dapat ang price nito, considering this is a 1991 release., sinubukan kung buhatin, nabigla ako, super bigat pala. 27kg
mga braders, need your comments pls.
napadaan ako kanina sa isang japan surplus shop, may nakita akong sansui AU alpha555 and a marantz PM90. I tested the PM90, kya lang di maganda yata condition ng speakers, pero good sounding pa rin, they are selling for 7500. does anybody knows kung magkano na dapat ang price nito, considering this is a 1991 release., sinubukan kung buhatin, nabigla ako, super bigat pala. 27kg
Sir kunin niyo na iyung Marantz. Kapag iba iyan baka wala na iyan.
para ngang mas maganda ang tunog ng marantz PM225 ko e he he, parang kulang sa bass kanina, kahit full yung lows e, parang kulang, but maybe, dahil di maganda ung speakers, onkyo na malaking BS ang ka pair kanina, tapos local na yung ibang drivers nya ;D....tinawaran ko nga ng 5k, tapos tumaas ako ng 5500, ayaw >:(...9500 kasi ang open nya, hanggang 7500 lang sya....iniwanan ko na ;D pero kanina, A lang ang operation(25wpc)... may AB pala sya that gives a 130wpc, ewan ko lang kung alam nilang i AB operation, di ko rin alam e, he he....baka may ibubuga pa kaya on AB?
Sir kunin niyo na iyung Marantz. Kapag iba iyan baka wala na iyan.kamuntik nga e, kung bumigay lang sa 5500. I check the screws, parang di pa nga nabuksan e. tawaran ko ulit sa lunes, baka sakaling abutan ko pa ;D paano ba ang AB class operation? para ma try, baka mas gumanda ang tunog
mga braders, need your comments pls.
napadaan ako kanina sa isang japan surplus shop, may nakita akong sansui AU alpha555 and a marantz PM90. I tested the PM90, kya lang di maganda yata condition ng speakers, pero good sounding pa rin, they are selling for 7500. does anybody knows kung magkano na dapat ang price nito, considering this is a 1991 release., sinubukan kung buhatin, nabigla ako, super bigat pala. 27kg
Saan banda yan bro, at uunahan ko na si Sir Mel dyan... ;) ;Dbagay sa marantz cd player hehehe
Mas maganda tunog ng Class A. Mas malambing, malinis at mas detailed.
Kailangan mo lang ng high sensitivity speakers specially sa Marantz PM90 kasi 25W per channel lang siya. Kung mga 90dB pataas speakers mo mas maririnig mo ng maayos kung ano ang diperensya ng Class A sa Class AB.
Mas maganda tunog ng Class A. Mas malambing, malinis at mas detailed.sakto, 90dB mission Mx5 ko. mabalikan nga bukas, baka mahanap nyo pa ;D ;D ;D
Kailangan mo lang ng high sensitivity speakers specially sa Marantz PM90 kasi 25W per channel lang siya. Kung mga 90dB pataas speakers mo mas maririnig mo ng maayos kung ano ang diperensya ng Class A sa Class AB.
Kunin mo na Sir Vhinx at itabi mo. Bilhin ko sa iyo pagdating ko ... hehehe
Saktong sakto sa full range speakers ko ;D
Ang pakiusap ko lang sa sinumang makakauna sa Marantz na iyan ... paki-reserve iyan sa akin in case magsawa kayo.
bagay sa marantz cd player hehehe
sakto, 90dB mission Mx5 ko. mabalikan nga bukas, baka mahanap nyo pa ;D ;D ;D
saan ba yang surplus-an na yan? hehehe ;Dbalikan ko muna, kapag di ko nagustuhan, sasabihin ko sa inyo kung nasan ;D Yung sansui AU alpha 555VS, may restorer ba tayo? walang presyo e kasi defective daw, baka ibigay ng 1500, he he
Kapag mababa sensitivity ng speaker hindi magiging ganun ka dynamic ang tunog tapos medyo kulang din sa low freq. Kapag nagka budget ka mag high sensitivity 92dB pataas full range ka na rin ;Dmaraming salamat, mahawaan pa yata ako ng SARS a ;D ;D
mga braders, need your comments pls.
napadaan ako kanina sa isang japan surplus shop, may nakita akong sansui AU alpha555 and a marantz PM90. I tested the PM90, kya lang di maganda yata condition ng speakers, pero good sounding pa rin, they are selling for 7500. does anybody knows kung magkano na dapat ang price nito, considering this is a 1991 release., sinubukan kung buhatin, nabigla ako, super bigat pala. 27kg
hi sir! nasaan po ung surplus shop na ito? thank you! :)teka teka, sasabihin ko kaagad kapag nakuha ko na si PM90 ;D ;D
teka teka, sasabihin ko kaagad kapag nakuha ko na si PM90 ;D ;Dhehehe... pass ako sa PM90, kaya ok lang po na sabihin (o ibulong) sa akin :D
Kung hindi man kumanta ng maayos iyung PM90 sa speakers niyo PM niyo ako. Dadagdag ako sa presyong kuha niyo para may ka-partner iyung full range speakers ko. Medyo malungkot siya ngayon eh :Dok, walang problema, pero, on second thought, kung diko mapakanta ng maayos e, consult muna kita kung paanong pakantahin ng maayos :)
saan nga ba yan? ng makapasyal hahaSama rin ako sau bro, para makapamasyal din hehehe.
Sama rin ako sau bro, para makapamasyal din hehehe.
saan nga ba yan? ng makapasyal hahasa ILOKOSlovakia ;D ;D ;D karamihan na display is bike. andami, lahat ng klase. ang gaganda ng MTBs nila ;D
sa ILOKOSlovakia ;D ;D ;D karamihan na display is bike. andami, lahat ng klase. ang gaganda ng MTBs nila ;DMalayo layo pala sir. Sayang, kung medyo malapit lang sana dito sa MM, sarap puntahan nyan.
para di OT...yung trio KP2022 turntable, defective, sabi ng boy, tawaran ko daw ng 150.00...marunong lang sana ako magbutingting e kinuha ko ;D
Malayo layo pala sir. Sayang, kung medyo malapit lang sana dito sa MM, sarap puntahan nyan.mainam sigurong pumasyal kayo ngayon para maiwanan naman ninyo pansamantala ang baha diyan sa MM ;D, pero kung puntahan nyo yung surplus shop, expect nyo na lang na wala kayong magugustuhang audio gears doon. bike na lang pag initan nyo, ;D sigurado, from size 20, 22, 24 at 26 meron. :) tapos pasyal na, vigan, bangui windmills, beaches of pagudpud...haba ng bakasyon sa 18, 19, 20 at 21 :D ;D
mainam sigurong pumasyal kayo ngayon para maiwanan naman ninyo pansamantala ang baha diyan sa MM ;D, pero kung puntahan nyo yung surplus shop, expect nyo na lang na wala kayong magugustuhang audio gears doon. bike na lang pag initan nyo, ;D sigurado, from size 20, 22, 24 at 26 meron. :) tapos pasyal na, vigan, bangui windmills, beaches of pagudpud...haba ng bakasyon sa 18, 19, 20 at 21 :D ;D
Inubos mo na kasi iyung gears eh ;D ;D ;Dmay parating daw, pina reseve ko na lahat na darating.............para sa inyong lahat ;D ;D ;D
may parating daw, pina reseve ko na lahat na darating.............para sa inyong lahat ;D ;D ;DPag may sansui na dumating pa reserve din bro
may parating daw, pina reseve ko na lahat na darating.............para sa inyong lahat ;D ;D ;DOk yan sir :D
installed the marantz PM90, napuyat ako sa pakikinig ;D, good catch talaga, ganda ng tunog, night and day against my marantz PM225 :D na akala ko mas magandang tumunog si PM225...napakalambing, detalyado, sa pandinig ko, mas tight ang bass nya :D
sa lahat na nangkulam sa akin na kunin ko si PM90, maraming salamat sa inyo, na tinulongan nyo akong mag decide.....feeling ko ngayon, naka high end ako ;D ;D ;D
Built like a tank talaga...on my way home from the surpus shop, at 100kph, napa sudden break ako, KABLAG!!
nalaglag ang bagong baby sa sahig ng sasakyan, (ipinatong ko kasi si PM90 sa upuan sa tabi ko na hinihimas himas habang nagmamaneho ;D ;D) at 27kg, ang lakas ng impact......nakupo! sira na si marantz. akala ko di na sya kakanta, pero kagabi, kinantahan nya ako ng pagkaganda ganda...tibay talaga ;D ;D
installed the marantz PM90, napuyat ako sa pakikinig ;D, good catch talaga, ganda ng tunog, night and day against my marantz PM225 :D na akala ko mas magandang tumunog si PM225...napakalambing, detalyado, sa pandinig ko, mas tight ang bass nya :D
sa lahat na nangkulam sa akin na kunin ko si PM90, maraming salamat sa inyo, na tinulongan nyo akong mag decide.....feeling ko ngayon, naka high end ako ;D ;D ;D
Built like a tank talaga...on my way home from the surpus shop, at 100kph, napa sudden break ako, KABLAG!!
nalaglag ang bagong baby sa sahig ng sasakyan, (ipinatong ko kasi si PM90 sa upuan sa tabi ko na hinihimas himas habang nagmamaneho ;D ;D) at 27kg, ang lakas ng impact......nakupo! sira na si marantz. akala ko di na sya kakanta, pero kagabi, kinantahan nya ako ng pagkaganda ganda...tibay talaga ;D ;DSwerte ka dyan sir sovrain hehe, pag nagsawa ka ako naman :D :D :D
installed the marantz PM90, napuyat ako sa pakikinig ;D, good catch talaga, ganda ng tunog, night and day against my marantz PM225 :D na akala ko mas magandang tumunog si PM225...napakalambing, detalyado, sa pandinig ko, mas tight ang bass nya :DGood for you bro. Congrats.
sa lahat na nangkulam sa akin na kunin ko si PM90, maraming salamat sa inyo, na tinulongan nyo akong mag decide.....feeling ko ngayon, naka high end ako ;D ;D ;D
Built like a tank talaga...on my way home from the surpus shop, at 100kph, napa sudden break ako, KABLAG!!
nalaglag ang bagong baby sa sahig ng sasakyan, (ipinatong ko kasi si PM90 sa upuan sa tabi ko na hinihimas himas habang nagmamaneho ;D ;D) at 27kg, ang lakas ng impact......nakupo! sira na si marantz. akala ko di na sya kakanta, pero kagabi, kinantahan nya ako ng pagkaganda ganda...tibay talaga ;D ;D
Nice catch bro :) buti may Sansui AU-D11 na ako ng nadaanan ko yan a month ago ;D, nakakuha ako ng mga LPs dati dyan nung wala pang nakakapansin ;D.maraaming salamat at hindi ka collector ;D ;D
sa ganda nya tumunog bro, e, for keeps na 'to ;D ;D surplus mid range amp is a poor man's high end amp ;D ;D
Good for you bro. Congrats.thanks bro
installed the marantz PM90, napuyat ako sa pakikinig ;D, good catch talaga, ganda ng tunog, night and day against my marantz PM225 :D na akala ko mas magandang tumunog si PM225...napakalambing, detalyado, sa pandinig ko, mas tight ang bass nya :D
sa lahat na nangkulam sa akin na kunin ko si PM90, maraming salamat sa inyo, na tinulongan nyo akong mag decide.....feeling ko ngayon, naka high end ako ;D ;D ;D
Built like a tank talaga...on my way home from the surpus shop, at 100kph, napa sudden break ako, KABLAG!!
nalaglag ang bagong baby sa sahig ng sasakyan, (ipinatong ko kasi si PM90 sa upuan sa tabi ko na hinihimas himas habang nagmamaneho ;D ;D) at 27kg, ang lakas ng impact......nakupo! sira na si marantz. akala ko di na sya kakanta, pero kagabi, kinantahan nya ako ng pagkaganda ganda...tibay talaga ;D ;D
Buti at na-enjoy mo ng husto iyung PM90 mo. Congrats :)thanks bro, advisable ba na i open ko sya para linisin and loob nya?
Oo. Mas maganda kung malinis para gumanda ventilation noong mga power devices.ok, maraming salamat. Paint brush with kaunting buga buga will do naman siguro :D
ok, maraming salamat. Paint brush with kaunting buga buga will do naman siguro :DPara cgurado brod linisin mo na rin ng contact cleaner ang mga contacts esp. the volume control. Lalong gaganda tunog nyan. :D :D :D
Para cgurado brod linisin mo na rin ng contact cleaner ang mga contacts esp. the volume control. Lalong gaganda tunog nyan. :D :D :Dthanks for the advice bro, di ba ang paglilinis ng pot ay tatanggalin or pwedeng spray'an lang? kung tatanggalin, jan ako di marunong ;D ;D
pektur naman ng pm90 mo broeto sya bro :D
thanks for the advice bro, di ba ang paglilinis ng pot ay tatanggalin or pwedeng spray'an lang? kung tatanggalin, jan ako di marunong ;D ;D
maganda pm90! used to own one. ::) ::) ::) makinis and malinis pa. swerti mo bro. ::)ok, thanks for the advice bro, nahalata ko nga, may very slight na parang sayad nga. need nga nya ng cleaning. any reccommended brand na contact cleaner?. the PM90 is having a real test today, kaninang 6am up to this time ay umaawit pa, at wala syang angal ;D ;D ;D
need po tangalin ung knobs pag sprayan ng contact cleaner, including inside na din. pihit-pihitin mo habang nililinis para matagtag ung mga tinga sa loob. ;D
ok, thanks for the advice bro, nahalata ko nga, may very slight na parang sayad nga. need nga nya ng cleaning. any reccommended brand na contact cleaner?. the PM90 is having a real test today, kaninang 6am up to this time ay umaawit pa, at wala syang angal ;D ;D ;Dany contact cleaner will do i guess. but i am using this ;
any contact cleaner will do i guess. but i am using this ;
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parang bastos ah....hahaha
hmmm..side epek yan bro ng mga gamot na iniinom mo or ung tinurok sa u...berdi ka na....wahahaha......nice your back and makulet uli! :-* :-* :-*
any contact cleaner will do i guess. but i am using this ;thanks bro, mayron ba nyan dito sa pinas? yung tot, este thought ni raider sa kontak, madami ;D ;D ;D
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thanks bro, mayron ba nyan dito sa pinas? yung tot, este thought ni raider sa kontak, madami ;D ;D ;Dderick nalang brader hehe...
derick nalang brader hehe...ok, maraming salamat brader derick :)
punta ka sa ace or handyman or diy
sabihin mo bili ka ng contact cleaner pang mga vintage amp..
alam na nila siguro un...basahin mo lang hehe...
ako din bibili...need ng linis ng amp ko...
sa ILOKOSlovakia ;D ;D ;D karamihan na display is bike. andami, lahat ng klase. ang gaganda ng MTBs nila ;D
para di OT...yung trio KP2022 turntable, defective, sabi ng boy, tawaran ko daw ng 150.00...marunong lang sana ako magbutingting e kinuha ko ;D
Bro albert, saan banda yan sa ilocos at baka makapunta me this long weekend and after ko punta sa bundok.
Thanks po...
Bro albert, saan banda yan sa ilocos at baka makapunta me this long weekend and after ko punta sa bundok.pintel trading, sto. domingo, ilocos sur...a town after vigan and san ildefonso :D
Thanks po...
thanks for the advice bro, di ba ang paglilinis ng pot ay tatanggalin or pwedeng spray'an lang? kung tatanggalin, jan ako di marunong ;D ;D
eto sya bro :D
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bold ;D
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(http://i.imgur.com/4y4Tp.jpg) Pinaka d' best sa ilalaim mo tanggalin, makikita mo doon ang mga control na dapat sprayan bro. :D :D :D
poor man's high end in concert ;D ;D
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ok, subukan ko, hope, I can do it right :D thanks bro
ok, subukan ko, hope, I can do it right :D thanks broKayang kaya mo yan bro, ako nung una dinadala ko pa sa technician yung pala iisprayan lang tapos sisingilin ako ng mahal. At saka lagi mong pipihitin ang mga control esp. the volume at least 3x week khit di mo ginagamit para maiwasan ang cracking. Experience ko na yan bro. :) :) :)
Kayang kaya mo yan bro, ako nung una dinadala ko pa sa technician yung pala iisprayan lang tapos sisingilin ako ng mahal. At saka lagi mong pipihitin ang mga control esp. the volume at least 3x week khit di mo ginagamit para maiwasan ang cracking. Experience ko na yan bro. :) :) :)ok bro, maraming salamat sa mga payo :)
Mga braders, I have sansui ba-150 power amp, 1971 mdl. Ano kaya ang magandang ipartner na pre amp dito? I use it w/ my Klipsch Reference RB-3 spkr. At present my pre amp is Pioneer C-90a, totl of pioneer elite.
Mga braders, I have sansui ba-150 power amp, 1971 mdl. Ano kaya ang magandang ipartner na pre amp dito? I use it w/ my Klipsch Reference RB-3 spkr. At present my pre amp is Pioneer C-90a, totl of pioneer elite.Klipsch reference RB-3 is a very good speaker, because of high efficiency you don't need a much higher wattage amps. Match this with tube pre-amps (hybrid) or use tube buffer on your CD output makes a good start.\While using tube amps is the excellent match for this speakers
Klipsch reference RB-3 is a very good speaker, because of high efficiency you don't need a much higher wattage amps. Match this with tube pre-amps (hybrid) or use tube buffer on your CD output makes a good start.\While using tube amps is the excellent match for this speakersThanks very much sa payo bro. I'll try seeking gud tube pre amp.
if you are a purist, then it might be good to start searching for the matching sansui pre-amp. if not theres a multitude of pre-amps out there to try from Solid state to tubes...Ok bro salamat, I'll try tube pre amp.
Hello mga master! Advisable ba na bumili sa pier ang katulad ko na super newbie pagdating sa mga audio devices? I'm planning to buy kasi a set-up that will be used as home theater and videoke din. Di naman ako ganun kaselan pagdating sa sounds pero syempre kung mas maganda ang sound ng peir products compare sa mga china brand sa Raon eh much better i'll go for surplus. Please give me advice I.m planning to buy this saturday with a 15k-20k budget. TIA.I'm no master bro, pero istorya ko lang sa iyo ang ginawa ko, noong nakita at natesting ko si marantz PM90, iniwan ko muna sya, internet agad ako, ni review ko ang capability,specs, reviews, etc, and best of all, ikinunsulta ko dito sa surplus amp thread, at dahil sa payo ng mga members, nabili ko sya and enjoying very much the surplus amp ;) ,for me, I prefer good condition branded surplus amps than ::).... happy hunting :)
Hello mga master! Advisable ba na bumili sa pier ang katulad ko na super newbie pagdating sa mga audio devices? I'm planning to buy kasi a set-up that will be used as home theater and videoke din. Di naman ako ganun kaselan pagdating sa sounds pero syempre kung mas maganda ang sound ng peir products compare sa mga china brand sa Raon eh much better i'll go for surplus. Please give me advice I.m planning to buy this saturday with a 15k-20k budget. TIA.Well makakatipid ka if sa pier ka bumili but beware dapat may kasama kang marunong. O kaya dapat may agreement kayo na anything happens, may warranty cya. Happy hunting! :D :D :D
Hello mga master! Advisable ba na bumili sa pier ang katulad ko na super newbie pagdating sa mga audio devices? I'm planning to buy kasi a set-up that will be used as home theater and videoke din. Di naman ako ganun kaselan pagdating sa sounds pero syempre kung mas maganda ang sound ng peir products compare sa mga china brand sa Raon eh much better i'll go for surplus. Please give me advice I.m planning to buy this saturday with a 15k-20k budget. TIA.kung pangvideoke better go to raon.....
wag kalimutan magdala ng bolpen at papel para lista mo ang mga magugustuhan mo, brand at model, saka mo i google , tapos, post mo rin dito sa surplus amp thread yung list mo ;) ;)........kasama na rin kung saan mo nakita ;D ;D ;D
wag kalimutan magdala ng bolpen at papel para lista mo ang mga magugustuhan mo, brand at model, saka mo i google , tapos, post mo rin dito sa surplus amp thread yung list mo ;) ;)........kasama na rin kung saan mo nakita ;D ;D ;DBaka pumunta sa Ilocosvakia yan c bro hehehe. ;D ;D ;D
Baka pumunta sa Ilocosvakia yan c bro hehehe. ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D may bagong dating daw, madaanan nga ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D may bagong dating daw, madaanan nga ;D ;DBro pls pm me pag may vintage hi end na sansui hehe. ;) ;) ;)
From experience, effective ang a907 series mag-drive ng big woofers -- 15-inch types. Kaya nuon JBL-4430 (now bi-amped with a pair of Sansui AU-X11s) ang nakakabit sa a907iMos ko. Ngayon yung Technics SB-7000 na. Maganda rin ang resulta. Kayang-kaya niyang palabasin yung deep bass ng big woofers di tulad ng iba kong amplifiers, even those rated 160wpc and above in RMS, parang bitin mag-drive ng big woofers.Hi sir Sandawa, gud day po. Para sa inyo ano mas gusto nyo tube amp or ss amp? Gusto ko sana kasing sumubok ng tube amps esp. tube pre amp. Thanks
Bro pls pm me pag may vintage hi end na sansui hehe. ;) ;) ;)puro bike at vacuum tube, ehe, cleaner pala ang mga dumating, yung turntable na trio, nabili na pala ;D
Depende yan, nasa room ko yung Luxman SQ-38FDII, which is a premium tube amp, but I did sell low (lugi!) my Sansui AU-70 and Wired State Tono.
That means, I'm more of the solid state type since I like alpha 907 series a lot, better than the Sansui AU-X series or even the Luxman 550, a classic pure A amp. The AU-X, by the way, is regarded as tube-sounding by audiophiles in the US. It's described by Sansui enthusiasts as a purists' amp, pero manipis ang tunog para sa akin for a 160wpc 30-kg amp.
Also, among my favorite combinations are SS-based: Yamaha B3 Vfet with Epos 14; and Sansui AU-D907 Limited with DCM TimeWindow.
Thanks Sir Sandawa, sabi nila magastos daw ang tube amp. Batay sa paliwanag nyo stay muna ako sa ss amp. tutal nakapakinig na ako ng mga tube amp to my friends at sa pakiwari ko di pa rin sila satisfied. Parehas tayo Sir ng type ng music like slow rock and vintage pop music. Nasanay na ang tenga ko sa a907 kaya pag napakinggan ko yung ibang amp ay medyo nakukulangan ako.
Siguro yung hardware preference, depende sa music na pinakikinggan. I like folk and folk-rock, vintage pop as well as big sound chamber music, or choral pieces for my gears in my living room, malakas ang volume. Acoustic/vintage and electronic jazz as well as classic strings and piano are usually played in my room.
I'm close to 40 years into this hobby by the way.
Depende yan, nasa room ko yung Luxman SQ-38FDII, which is a premium tube amp, but I did sell low (lugi!) my Sansui AU-70 and Wired State Tono.
That means, I'm more of the solid state type since I like alpha 907 series a lot, better than the Sansui AU-X series or even the Luxman 550, a classic pure A amp. The AU-X, by the way, is regarded as tube-sounding by audiophiles in the US. It's described by Sansui enthusiasts as a purists' amp, pero manipis ang tunog para sa akin for a 160wpc 30-kg amp.
Also, among my favorite combinations are SS-based: Yamaha B3 Vfet with Epos 14; and Sansui AU-D907 Limited with DCM TimeWindow.
Siguro yung hardware preference, depende sa music na pinakikinggan. I like folk and folk-rock, vintage pop as well as big sound chamber music, or choral pieces for my gears in my living room, malakas ang volume. Acoustic/vintage and electronic jazz as well as classic strings and piano are usually played in my room.
I'm close to 40 years into this hobby by the way. Thanks Sir Sandawa for the advice. Gusto ko lang sanang sumubok ng tube pre amp at ss power amp pero postpone muna kc magastos pala ang tube amp.
puro bike at vacuum tube, ehe, cleaner pala ang mga dumating, yung turntable na trio, nabili na pala ;DOk lang bro, matiyaga akong maghihintay. :D :D :D
Ok lang bro, matiyaga akong maghihintay. :D :D :D
Sir Sovrain,
Huwag niyo sana makakalimutan iyung request ko :) Wala pa ring kapares iyung full range speakers ko ...
wag mag alala, nakausap ko yung may ari, di daw sya masyadong nagpaparating kasi hirap dw syang mag dispose, pero sabi ko, tutulungan ko syang magbenta ;D ;D basta technics, sansui at marantz na vintage amp and turntables ang paratingin nya......marami daw sya dati turntables, may humakot daw na taga pampanga...., tawag nila doon sa bumili ay si mister As Is ;D ;DOk Thanks
I have Sony cdp-333 esj cd plyr, very warm sounding kaso may problema ang optical lens. Saan kaya makakakuha mga braders ng lens nito? The lens is KSS272A
Sir, PM niyo si gynco.
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Bought this Sansui AU-D907G Extra for 3.5k today dito sa Davao City. Mahina ang right speaker nung pag testing namin sa bahay ng seller. Konting spray lng ng electronic cleaner sa volume at ok na xa ngayn.
Bought this Sansui AU-D907G Extra for 3.5k today dito sa Davao City. Mahina ang right speaker nung pag testing namin sa bahay ng seller. Konting spray lng ng electronic cleaner sa volume at ok na xa ngayn.
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Bought this Sansui AU-D907G Extra for 3.5k today dito sa Davao City. Mahina ang right speaker nung pag testing namin sa bahay ng seller. Konting spray lng ng electronic cleaner sa volume at ok na xa ngayn.
Swerte nyo sir.
Pansin ko lang, bakit parang mas magaan sya kaysa sa 707??? O mali lang yung nasa website?
AU-D907g extra - 18kg.
AU-D707g extra - 15kg.
Ahhhh mali lang yung naging comparo 707 ko. AU-D707 lang pala yung nakita ko, which is 20ish kg. ;D
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Bought this Sansui AU-D907G Extra for 3.5k today dito sa Davao City. Mahina ang right speaker nung pag testing namin sa bahay ng seller. Konting spray lng ng electronic cleaner sa volume at ok na xa ngayn.
Naku po! Hindi totoo yan, napakaraming collectible Sansui amps na wala ako. Siguro medyo nakapili lang ako kasi roughly 30 years na ako dito sa hobby na 'to. Kailangan lang talaga marunong makipaglaro sa traders, but not necessarily buying at high price. During the early years of vintage Japanese hifi here in Davao, I even deposit cash to get first priority on arriving surplus amps. Kung minsan, natutulog ang pera ko for months pero halos ganun din naman sa bangko ngayon. At least, you earn goodwill and future favors from an honest trader for just a 4-figure deposit. Sa bangko, with that amount, you're nothing.
Just this afternoon I bought a Luxman LV-103 and Onkyo Integra A-917. I had the Luxman for 2.7K.Nice amp. :)
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Just this afternoon I bought a Luxman LV-103 and Onkyo Integra A-917. I had the Luxman for 2.7K.Nice catch...how does the Luxman sound?
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Nice catch...how does the Luxman sound?ang gaganda pa rin, congrats bro, sana makatsamba (pa) rin ako ;D ;D
This is my 1st Luxman amp. ;D I played Lobo, Eagles and Fra Lippo last night and it sounded soft and smooth to my ears compared to Onkyo Integra A-917 but lack a liitle kick on the bass.
Mga braders may 2 output ang Victor XL-V501 cd plyr ko, one is Fix the other one is variable. Nakaplug ang Fix sa int. amp ko at ang Variable ay nakaplug sa pre amp going to power amp. Tanong ko lang kung wala bang epekto sa sound yun? Hindi ko naman pinatutunog ng sabay ang int. amp at power amp. Nakapirmi nang nakakabit ang IC sa FIX at VARIABLE. Thanks
Walang issue yan, pwede yan kahit sabay.
Since may Volume control yung isang pre-out,Try mo din tangalin yung pre-amp and DIRECT yung variable na pre-out sa Power Amp.
Thanks bro. qguy. Dko pa nagamit chord spkr cable ala pang banana plug
found an amp - sansui AU alpha 555VS,dahil defective, hindi alam presyohan kaya tinatawaran ko ng 500 >:D kasi sira nga, ang issue daw is, it keeps on clipping, may remedyo ba or kaya bang ayusin yung clipping issue nya?
clipping or nag protect mode ?di ko sigurado e, tama ka yata sir, protect mode yata ang sabi ng boy kanina, sabi nya, umiilaw yung protect,...ayun, naalala ko, protect nga, he he
di ko sigurado e, tama ka yata sir, protect mode yata ang sabi ng boy kanina, sabi nya, umiilaw yung protect,...ayun, naalala ko, protect nga, he heGanyan din nangyari sa sansui amp ko, nagproprotect.
Ganyan din nangyari sa sansui amp ko, nagproprotect.dinala mo na sa pasig? hehe...
dinala mo na sa pasig? hehe...
if your handy with the soldering iron, check the power supply boards for leaky caps or caps that not in the right shape.. if not bring it to a qualified technician
Maraming leaky caps to be replace bro Benjie.
is that the 907 ?
Ibig sabihin sirs, may pag asang maayos yung 555 if protect mode lang ang problema?
Marami pinanggagalingan/sanhi nang nag "protect/clipping", It is possible from main power supply (X-former, E-Cap's, regulator, etc.) - Then Power amp (transistor/IC/Cap's)... Pwede ma-repair yan pero hindi tayo sure kung merun pa avail na parts specially IC's & Transistor's.Pinakamaganda take it to the best tech.
Yes bro Derick
anu sbi? wala bang nabibilihan ng caps?May mabibilhan ng caps bro. No problem sa pyesa.
maraming salamat mga sirs, mukhang bibili rin ako ng isang karton ng medicol a kapag kinuha ko iyon ;D ;D ;DWag kakalimutan ang isang banig na capsula hehehe.
maraming salamat mga sirs, mukhang bibili rin ako ng isang karton ng medicol a kapag kinuha ko iyon ;D ;D ;D
it really depends on the price. if your have a working vintage unit of the same model, sometimes it pays to have a defective unit for spare parts.Totoo yan, yun iba kumukuha ng defective unit dahil lang sa spare parts.
sana ibigay ng 100 >:D gaya nung TT, i get from them for 100.......... sinturon at karayom na lang ang kulang, kakanta na :D..........Wow sana ibigay nga.
yes,, mga bro sansui sa mga tech.. sansunog.. grabe mag sira yan.. kailangan pag nag palit ka ng parts i calibrate pa lalo na yung protec problem.. malimit may detection dc voltge ito sa main amp to out put spkr,, .. para di masunog ang speaker nito.. kina cut nya ang relay papunta sa speaker.. sansui maganda talaga tumunog, malinis pero grabe kung sumira sinusunog ang mga parts.. isa rin to sa dhilan around 80s nadimanda ang sansui comp. gawa ng pti bahay nasunog din.. malapit kase sa kurtina ang unit..habang tumutunog huminto ang music at nkita ng may ari na umaapoy na ang kurtina..matagal na to..di rin po bsta bsta ang repair nto kailangan talaga expert pra sa calibration ng idle curent sa mga out put.. di sya ganun ka simpleng circuit..
yes tama po, depende sa model like AUD siries.. ;D
mern akong vintage din na pioneer a717 80s model nabili ko ito sa seaman.. magandang tumonog after a mont nasira wala akong makitang orig na parts.. pero naka order din ako ang mahal ngalng siningil ako ng service center ng 3.2k rightchan. ang ncra.. ginamitan sya ng osciliscope at pinakita nya sakin ang waveform kung talagang clibrated.. hanggang ngyn gumgana pa rin.. 2 years na..ang circuit protec ng sansui di ganun ka sensitive minsan huli na bumitaw ang speaker protec relay, sunog na bgo sya bumitaw.. bro cguro swerte ka dyan sa amp. mo he he... tagahanga din ako ng sansui b4....
mukhang bad exp sa sansui hehe...dont worry sis..grupo naman tayo ng satsuwi eh
mahirap din daw irepair sansui may mga models base sa mga nababasa ko..
pero sweet sounding kasi kaya many are getting it
hopefully in the future i can have my own sansui na well taken care of
bro anung model ang sansui mo? mern akong equalizer n reverbration nyan 10 band sa gitna yung display nakatambak lang.. he he
yes tama po, depende sa model like AUD siries.. ;D
mern akong vintage din na pioneer a717 80s model nabili ko ito sa seaman.. magandang tumonog after a mont nasira wala akong makitang orig na parts.. pero naka order din ako ang mahal ngalng siningil ako ng service center ng 3.2k rightchan. ang ncra.. ginamitan sya ng osciliscope at pinakita nya sakin ang waveform kung talagang clibrated.. hanggang ngyn gumgana pa rin.. 2 years na..ang circuit protec ng sansui di ganun ka sensitive minsan huli na bumitaw ang speaker protec relay, sunog na bgo sya bumitaw.. bro cguro swerte ka dyan sa amp. mo he he... tagahanga din ako ng sansui b4....Marami na akong sansui na naibenta like two au-666, three au-alpha 607. sansui ba-150 power amp, au- alpha 707
Sansui au- alpha 907, au-707, au-x11ano mang Banesto!?? meron ka din au-x11? :o :o
ano mang Banesto!?? meron ka din au-x11? :o :o
Sana palarin din ako makakuha ng Sansui AU-X11. May Sansui AU-D907F ako at puwede ko i-exchange sa Sansui AU-X11 + cash just in case sawa na kayo sa tunog ;D
Sana palarin din ako makakuha ng Sansui AU-X11. May Sansui AU-D907F ako at puwede ko i-exchange sa Sansui AU-X11 + cash just in case sawa na kayo sa tunog ;Dbaka ibebenta mo yang 907 mo hehe..dito lang ako...
Mahilig ka rin ba sa vintage sansui brader? Others called it sansunog.ung mga iba lang un...meron talaga iba na mahirap ayusin
ung mga iba lang un...meron talaga iba na mahirap ayusin
sinusunog nya ung mga power something nung nakausap ko ung magaling na mekaniko ng JJ
nahirapan sya kasi 350-450 ung power something e...
pero hindi lahat....may ilan lang..
ot what time kayo punta ka ernie later? after lunch punta namin..
Cge baka makasunod ako, this day na ba or tomorrow?today po hehe...
today po hehe...
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musta po ung 707 nyo nagawa na?
baka punta ako dun sa pasig..
pa recap/restore ko ung technics 80a ko
Yes nagawa na. lalong gumanda tunog. Napalitan na kc ng mga bagong capacitors. Ilan kau ppunta dyan?dami hehe
Mahilig ka rin ba sa vintage sansui brader? Others called it sansunog.
Yes brader. Naghahanap ako ng kapatid ng 907F ko. Sa pagkaka alam ko iyung AU-X1 ang sansunog.
dami hehe
Louie , TIMI, Jason, ELMer, Joko, Ako, and other pdvd friends..to may to mention ahaha
magkano inabot ng repair and parts?
anu po pinalit nyo sa keps ? ay este klipsch?
Bale 1.8k ang inabot labor & parts. Puro orig kc ang ginamit.patikimin mo naman ako ng sansui amps mo mang banesto ;D ;D
B&W 602 s3 ang ipinalit ko sa Klipsch. Sariwa pa w/ box & manual, no dings & scracthes.
Bale 1.8k ang inabot labor & parts. Puro orig kc ang ginamit.
B&W 602 s3 ang ipinalit ko sa Klipsch. Sariwa pa w/ box & manual, no dings & scracthes.
Yes brader. Naghahanap ako ng kapatid ng 907F ko. Sa pagkaka alam ko iyung AU-X1 ang sansunog.
Based on my other friend's encountered problem that this amps was extremely high slew rate that caused it to oscillate at just about the drop of a hat, which always resulted in the output transistors going up in smoke. I found out the hard way that just about anything could trigger the unit into oscillation, including RF interference...
Btw, If anyone here have AU-919 & AU-907X Decade and plan to sell - Please inform me or text me 09167472212...
Bale 1.8k ang inabot labor & parts. Puro orig kc ang ginamit.hehehe... astig...basta nakareserve na kay efren yan 602 na yan...ihihi
B&W 602 s3 ang ipinalit ko sa Klipsch. Sariwa pa w/ box & manual, no dings & scracthes.
hehehe... astig...basta nakareserve na kay efren yan 602 na yan...ihihiAling amp ang nasusunog na output transistor brader?
ayun output transistor ung nasusunog on the process of troubleshooting which cause 350pesos each...
Aling amp ang nasusunog na output transistor brader?ung sansui ni brader JJ before na pinapagawa...nahirapan ayusin ng mechanic nya dahil dun...siguro nakailan ...pero ok na ata ngayon...
Eto ba yun taga Magsaysay ave., Pasig???
Unstable pala. Kulang sa phase margin. Baka naman batch problem ito. May batch lang ng Sansui AU-X1 ang may ganitong problema. Iyung iba naman ok.
Yes brader Vhinx.
Based on my other friend's encountered problem that this amps was extremely high slew rate that caused it to oscillate at just about the drop of a hat, which always resulted in the output transistors going up in smoke. I found out the hard way that just about anything could trigger the unit into oscillation, including RF interference...
Btw, If anyone here have AU-919 & AU-907X Decade and plan to sell - Please inform me or text me 09167472212...
Ang tsismis lang nasagap ko ay itnigil daw agad pag realese nyan due to that problem... Pero minsan nako nakagamit ng higher model (AU-X11) at sa two weeks na gamit ko with 8ohms speaker and exchaust fan ay wala naman naging problem. 8)
marami na din nagsasabi na magaling daw yun tech dun at kaya hindi daw nagagawa yun iba gear dahil walang pyesa pamalit. ;)
Based on my other friend's encountered problem that this amps was extremely high slew rate that caused it to oscillate at just about the drop of a hat, which always resulted in the output transistors going up in smoke. I found out the hard way that just about anything could trigger the unit into oscillation, including RF interference...I think au-907xdecade was made in the mid 80's, medyo kulang sa bigat di tulad ng a907 busog sa bigat.
Btw, If anyone here have AU-919 & AU-907X Decade and plan to sell - Please inform me or text me 09167472212...
Pinapaayos ko yung apat na amplifiers ko sa trusted technician ko since yesterday. Sansui au-d907 limited, Sansui au-707f, Onkyo integra a-917f, and Sony ta-f333esr. Yung mga sansui nag po-protect mode tpos yung onkyo at sony volume ata ang problema.
Salamat sa reply. Blue housing na alps yung volume nya.Napakalayo sa atin yan.
Sir Parasmi, dito po sa davao city yung technician. Same sa technician ni sir sandawa.
Napakalayo sa atin yan.ok lang un mang banesto, meron ka naman mga trusted tech. dito tulad nina Mr. navarete at Mang bess!! ;D ;D
ok lang un mang banesto, meron ka naman mga trusted tech. dito tulad nina Mr. navarete at Mang bess!! ;D ;DSwerte swerte lang ang pagawa mahirap mag source ng parts.
Pwede mahingi yung contact number nung technician, sir? Walang reliable Sansui/Luxman technician malapit sa amin. Thanks!
Salamat sa reply. Blue housing na alps yung volume nya.
OK na ang sony at onkyo ko mga masters. Replacement volume muna pinakabit ko sa sony amp baka kasi may makita ako sa future. Yung onkyo nman nilinis lng ng technician ang volume.
Sansui 707f - pinalitan ang sanken 2sa1215n tska sanken 2sc2921n. nxt week ko pa kukunin.
Sansui 907 limited - problema daw nya ang relay. Nakuha ko kanina at
eto xa ngayn.
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tnx for viewing :)
300 lng charge ng technician d2 sa davao city. Magaling tlga yung technician dahil 8 yrs na xa nagrerepair ng mga surplus.Brader Derick mas mahal pa pamasahe kaysa upa sa tech. Buti sir ericsally may magaling na tech dyan.
Brader Derick mas mahal pa pamasahe kaysa upa sa tech. Buti sir ericsally may magaling na tech dyan.hahaha... oo nga hihihi...
hahaha... oo nga hihihi...
ako din sa katapusan pacheck ko ung technics 80a ko..working naman
parestore ko lang ihihi...
Brader gising ka pa pala hehehe.uu gising na gising pa..late reply hehe..
uu gising na gising pa..late reply hehe..Oo nga kakainggit.
sarap naman dyan erik mura ang labor...
Oo nga raiderJ.. Mura na, satisfied ka pa sa resulta.dito sa manila minimum 1.5k ata hehe....
dito sa manila minimum 1.5k ata hehe....Pang taxi pa huhuhu.
sama parts kung mga 500something hihihi....
Pang taxi pa huhuhu.haha....may auto ka naman ka ernie ...hindi na need mag taxi
haha....may auto ka naman ka ernie ...hindi na need mag taxiMahal asolina tapos trapik pa huhuhu from pasig to paranaque layu rin.
ako ilagay ko nalang sa scooter talian ko lol
Sir Parasmi, dito po sa davao city yung technician. Same sa technician ni sir sandawa.
Sir banesto, kayo yata makaka tulong dito...OO naman brader, Pwede sya pumunta sa Governor's Audio dyan sa Makati Square sa Upper Basement
Merun po Alps vol pots sa eleshop manila pero yun standard na gray lang @ 50kohms nakita ko.
Btw, kung yun Sony at onkyo mo ay vol pot lang problema, pwede mo muna pansamantala pa replace nang ordinary pots for the meantime habang nag source out ka original parts para pwede mo muna sila magamit.
share ko tong bagong huling surplus amp kaninang 6pm sa container mismo.
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VICTOR M-3030
share ko tong bagong huling surplus amp kaninang 6pm sa container mismo.parang ang sarap pakintabin........congrats!
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VICTOR M-3030
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meron din akong nakita duon na Sony ta-f505esd, Marantz pm-75 tska Marantz pm-80
Yung isang contact ko meron daw xa Sansui au-707 na binibenta.
halimaw!!! ang ganda ng mga transformer. mga ilang kg yan sir?At ilang watts sir per channel?
At ilang watts sir per channel?http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://audio-heritage.jp/VICTOR/amp/m-3030.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3DVICTOR%2BM-3030%26hl%3Den%26tbo%3Dd%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-US&sa=X&ei=mLK2UJjtCYehigewqoHgDA&ved=0CDIQ7gEwAA
Halos kasing bigat siya nung sansui au-d907 limited ko.Ganda ng Victor power amp. For sale ba sya?
@Sovrain, kapag may time ako sir at mainit ang panahon sasabunan ko tong mga amps ko.
Pangit naman ng Victor power amp. Dumi pa. Benta mo na lang sa akin iyan ;D ;D ;Dtama, ampangit nga >:D >:D >:D ampangit na wala kami nyan ;D ;D
Pangit naman ng Victor power amp. Dumi pa. Benta mo na lang sa akin iyan ;D ;D ;D
share ko tong bagong huling surplus amp kaninang 6pm sa container mismo.
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Nice catch! Congrats! :)
Hahahaha! natawa ako dito. Nice one!Ganyan dito brader hihihih.... may konting kwela.
Hehehe. Ganda ng pagkabanat ni sir rascal.Maganda yan brader, I never said that it is pangit. that's why I'm interested.
Sir banesto, kahit pangit to, hndi ko bibenta to. bihira na kasi dumating mga kasing dumi nito dito sa davao ngayn. hehe ;D
O nga pala, nakuha ko na yung Sansui au-707 kanina pero papa-schedule ko xa sa technician. May power xa pero walang lumalabas sa speakers. Ganun din yung Marantz pm-80.pinakyaw na..........may kasabihan tayo...."share your blessings".........kaya ilagay na sa marketplace yang mga iba, he he
Hndi kasi pwedeng subukan ang mga amps sa warehouse. Ang pwede lng ay i-plug at tingnan kung may power. As-is daw kasi yung bentahan.
share ko tong bagong huling surplus amp kaninang 6pm sa container mismo.
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VICTOR M-3030
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pinakyaw na..........may kasabihan tayo...."share your blessings".........kaya ilagay na sa marketplace yang mga iba, he he
take note that the power transistors used are now obsolete, so take care that you do not blow the outputs...Mukhang wala nang isang screw ang isang power transistor....
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mukhang sa davao na lang ako titira...mura pa ang cost of living dun? hows the environment? parang nasa heaven sakali, dami gamit eh.. :D :D :D :D
nagustuhan ko sa davao ay yung inihaw na itlog ng lalaking tuna, bagaybay yata ang tawag doon, sarap with cold beer >:D
para di OT, sir eriksally, baka mapasyal uli ako ng davao, pwede bang makontak kita para magpaturo kung saan makabingwit ng madudumi at pangit pero masarap pakintabin na gears? ;D ;D
tsalap tsalap! punta ng davao, kain ng itlog ng lalaking tuna.(wala bang itlog ng baklush na tuna) :D :D :DPati Durian dun tsalap tsalap. Tahimik pa place dahil kay Duterte hihihi.....
tapos makikinig ng odyo, tapos bibili ng vintage amp...san ka pa, davao is the best place to be. kaya nga I LOVE PHILIPPINES..... :) :) :) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Pati Durian dun tsalap tsalap. Tahimik pa place dahil kay Duterte hihihi.....
KA ERNIE!!! MY IDOL!!!Yes brad Darwin Let's go na sa DAVAO .... Hakutin natin ang mahahakot dun...... hahahah
taralets na sa DAVAO! hehehe...maganda ka pa sa gabi sir!
Yes brad Darwin Let's go na sa DAVAO .... Hakutin natin ang mahahakot dun...... hahahahsama ako...pumunta ako ng subic kahapon nagtanong ako saan may bentahan ng amp..hindi alam nung iba...sinu may alam dito? haha...
sama ako...pumunta ako ng subic kahapon nagtanong ako saan may bentahan ng amp..hindi alam nung iba...sinu may alam dito? haha...Ok schedule natin... Puede sa Sunday... tamang tama walang pasok.....Parang wala yata sa zoobic brad...
nagustuhan ko sa davao ay yung inihaw na itlog ng lalaking tuna, bagaybay yata ang tawag doon, sarap with cold beer >:D
para di OT, sir eriksally, baka mapasyal uli ako ng davao, pwede bang makontak kita para magpaturo kung saan makabingwit ng madudumi at pangit pero masarap pakintabin na gears? ;D ;D
Kelan??
Sarap nyan sir sovrain with ice cold beer! Sama natin si sir superman mamingwit ng vintage gears sa araw. Sa gabi naman yung latest model bibingwitin natin wag na yung vintage! hihihi >:D >:Dha ha ha, natawa ako sa bingwitan, vintage sa araw, latest model sa gabi..........ano nga pangalan ng gimikan sa ibabaw ng bundok, marami yatang latest model doon? hi hi
para di OT, galing ako kanina sa technician.. gumana na yung Sansui au-707 ko pero mahina pa yung isang channel.
mga sir, nasira yung power transistor ng au-d707 ko.. :(Pwede ang motorola. Mahirap nang maka source ng orig Sanken.
pwede kaya pampalit sa sanken nma1216 and nmc1216 yung mj21193 and mj21194?
meron na ko mabibilihan nung replacement kaya lang wala ako makita datasheet ng original sankens..
any idea sir kung pwede nga yung ON na transistor? or may alam kayo na mas magandang pangreplace?
thanks..
mga sir, nasira yung power transistor ng au-d707 ko.. :(
pwede kaya pampalit sa sanken nma1216 and nmc1216 yung mj21193 and mj21194?
meron na ko mabibilihan nung replacement kaya lang wala ako makita datasheet ng original sankens..
any idea sir kung pwede nga yung ON na transistor? or may alam kayo na mas magandang pangreplace?
thanks..
Pwede ang motorola. Mahirap nang maka source ng orig Sanken.Thanks sir banesto., nag email na ako sa alexan, meron silang available na motorola transistors., about <350php each..
2sc5200 at 2sa1943 available sa newport at electromark less than 100 each....
My Sansui au-707 now in working condition. Kahapon ng umaga ko iniwan sa technician at kaninang 5pm gumagana na xa.Just like my amp., ;) all original pa yung power supply capacitor sir? and also power transistors?
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isa 'to sa nakitang problema ng technician.
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Mahirap daw i-trace ang problema kasi gumagana nman daw sa tester pero kapag kinabit na eh hndi daw nagbibigay ng kuryente.
sir tony, kung gagamitin ko itong 2sc5200 and 2sa1943, meron pa ba ko papalitan na component pang bias sa transistor? o derecho papalitan ko lang sa socket?
(-edit TO-3PL pala casing nito sir :-\)
the mjl21194/21193 have the same casing as the 2sc5200 and 2sa1943, and these japanese trannies are better in terms of gain linearity (beta droops) and frequency response than even the original trannies in your sansui.....
Decided to get back into the hobby after a couple of years of time off :) Rather than having my Luxman amp in storage repaired, I thought of looking up some items in the market section. Unfortunately, I missed out on this deal http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,173455.0.html :(
To cheer myself up, called in sick to work last Monday ;D and headed to the Pier (boy, did I miss that place). After countless "ano hanap mo, boss?" and going through all the familiar stores, with no hopes of finding a gem really, I stopped by this store that sells mainly sewing machines with a few amps on display. Still nothing. Pero napansin ko sa katabing store may mga amps na mukhang for repair lahat. Tingin-tingin lang and underneath the pile of amps and literary nasa pinakababa....BULAGA! Sansui AU-D907
parasmi: Boss, for repair ba lahat ng items nyo dito?
technician: Yung iba gawa na, sir.
parasmi: Saan dyan yung mga sira?
technician: Yung naka hilera dun (pointing to where the Sansui is placed)
parasmi: Eh magkano po yung Sansui na nandun sa pinakababa as-is?
technician: Ah yung 907? (aba! alam nya) OK na yun, sir
parasmi: ;D
parasmi: Magkano, boss?
technician: 8,500
parasmi: ;D
Wala ng tawad-tawad, inspect, testing, bayad, balot, uwi
The surplus gods smiled upon me ;D
hi guys, i need your opinion. my friend is selling his surplus amplifiers. pioneer AX750 @2t, the other one is
victor JA-G150@2,500. i will be used it for audio lang. ok ba ang mga models na eto? tia.
Parang wala kong makitang info sa google... :(oo nga sir, wala din ako makita...
hi guys, i need your opinion. my friend is selling his surplus amplifiers. pioneer AX750 @2t, the other one is
victor JA-G150@2,500. i will be used it for audio lang. ok ba ang mga models na eto? tia.
pioneer SX-750 yan kung receiver...sir tony,
malamang yamaha ax-750, walang pio ax 750 makita sa net...
http://www.hifiengine.com/library/Yamaha/AX-750.shtml
Hindi kaya Yamaha AX-750 iyung unit? Walang Pioneer AX series sa www.audio-heritage.jp. Baka Pioneer A-750?Mga braders,
Decided to get back into the hobby after a couple of years of time off :) Rather than having my Luxman amp in storage repaired, I thought of looking up some items in the market section. Unfortunately, I missed out on this deal http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,173455.0.html :(
To cheer myself up, called in sick to work last Monday ;D and headed to the Pier (boy, did I miss that place). After countless "ano hanap mo, boss?" and going through all the familiar stores, with no hopes of finding a gem really, I stopped by this store that sells mainly sewing machines with a few amps on display. Still nothing. Pero napansin ko sa katabing store may mga amps na mukhang for repair lahat. Tingin-tingin lang and underneath the pile of amps and literary nasa pinakababa....BULAGA! Sansui AU-D907
parasmi: Boss, for repair ba lahat ng items nyo dito?
technician: Yung iba gawa na, sir.
parasmi: Saan dyan yung mga sira?
technician: Yung naka hilera dun (pointing to where the Sansui is placed)
parasmi: Eh magkano po yung Sansui na nandun sa pinakababa as-is?
technician: Ah yung 907? (aba! alam nya) OK na yun, sir
parasmi: ;D
parasmi: Magkano, boss?
technician: 8,500
parasmi: ;D
Wala ng tawad-tawad, inspect, testing, bayad, balot, uwi
The surplus gods smiled upon me ;D
Decided to get back into the hobby after a couple of years of time off :) Rather than having my Luxman amp in storage repaired, I thought of looking up some items in the market section. Unfortunately, I missed out on this deal http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,173455.0.html :(Swerte mo........Enjoy
To cheer myself up, called in sick to work last Monday ;D and headed to the Pier (boy, did I miss that place). After countless "ano hanap mo, boss?" and going through all the familiar stores, with no hopes of finding a gem really, I stopped by this store that sells mainly sewing machines with a few amps on display. Still nothing. Pero napansin ko sa katabing store may mga amps na mukhang for repair lahat. Tingin-tingin lang and underneath the pile of amps and literary nasa pinakababa....BULAGA! Sansui AU-D907
parasmi: Boss, for repair ba lahat ng items nyo dito?
technician: Yung iba gawa na, sir.
parasmi: Saan dyan yung mga sira?
technician: Yung naka hilera dun (pointing to where the Sansui is placed)
parasmi: Eh magkano po yung Sansui na nandun sa pinakababa as-is?
technician: Ah yung 907? (aba! alam nya) OK na yun, sir
parasmi: ;D
parasmi: Magkano, boss?
technician: 8,500
parasmi: ;D
Wala ng tawad-tawad, inspect, testing, bayad, balot, uwi
The surplus gods smiled upon me ;D
^can you post pics?
Sa mga owners ng SANSUI AU-D707, maganda ba tumunog to? Kasing ganda ba nya ang AU-707? Meron kasing offer sa akin pero nagdadalawang isip ako.
Yung AU-D707 as is where is ang benta sa akin. Hndi pwedeng subukan sa warehouse. Pero parang ok ang reviews nya. Sansui AU-819 pala international model nito.Kunin mo na bro lalo na kung mura @tormentor
@tormentor, Magkano benta sayo? Meron ako nito. Maganda xa tumunog pero mas paborito ko yung au-907 limited tska au-707. Kung may makita pa akong 907g extra, kukunin ko. ;D
5th generation 907 ang au-907g extra. kunin mo na!
Yung AU-D707 as is where is ang benta sa akin. Hndi pwedeng subukan sa warehouse. Pero parang ok ang reviews nya. Sansui AU-819 pala international model nito.
@tormentor, Magkano benta sayo? Meron ako nito. Maganda xa tumunog pero mas paborito ko yung au-907 limited tska au-707. Kung may makita pa akong 907g extra, kukunin ko. ;D
5th generation 907 ang au-907g extra. kunin mo na!
Kunin mo na bro lalo na kung mura @tormentor
Kunin mo na bro lalo na kung mura @tormentor
Tomorrow sir kunin ko na. Audition muna of course. :)
Mganda daw 907g extra, I'm excited to hear it. :)
Mga sir npadaan aq s my paseo de santa rosa kahapon meron pala dun tndahan ng japan amps.sansui,pioneer,onkyo harman kardon,etc.
Mga sir npadaan aq s my paseo de santa rosa kahapon meron pala dun tndahan ng japan amps.sansui,pioneer,onkyo harman kardon,etc.
Galing na ako doon bro cguro naman alam mo ang presyo. Doon galing ang Sansui AU-XIII MOS VINTAGE koHuwaw....
nakuha ko sa halagang Php50,000. Apat ang 907 doon with the price tag of Php45,0000 & the 907i mos
Limited for Php55,000.
saan po yung shop, sir?s paseo de santa rosa bro madadaanan mu pg pupunta ka tagaytay s loob cia ng paseo beside LBC
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mga sirs,
eto na actual pictures...sorry, masyado malalaki ang pictures
domestic unit ang tawag dyan, my Japanese friend told me years ago that the quality of their domestic units are even better than export units....ano nga ulit ang issue mo? kaya pala walang makitang documentation sa usual source ko...Sir tony,
Galing na ako doon bro cguro naman alam mo ang presyo. Doon galing ang Sansui AU-XIII MOS VINTAGE ko
nakuha ko sa halagang Php50,000. Apat ang 907 doon with the price tag of Php45,0000 & the 907i mos
Limited for Php55,000.
Sir tony,Loose connection maybe brader. Best to have a technician check it. Hinang lang yan. :)
Pag thru ic's ang connection, isa speaker lang ang tumutunog, pero pag optical pareho tumutunog.
Sir mganda b yung nkuha mong x111 mos.mgaganda nga ung mga nandun nd ko lng kaya ang presyo :)
hi mga sir.,nakabili na ako ng 2sc5200 and 2sa1943 na pang replace sa nma/nmc1216 as advise by sir tony., although iba sya ng packaging., gagamitan ko na lang ng jumper wire from the underside of the to-3 socket to the pins of to3pl.. i was hoping kung meron nakakaalam ng pin configuration ng nma/nmc1216?
Sir tony,
Pag thru ic's ang connection, isa speaker lang ang tumutunog, pero pag optical pareho tumutunog.
not sure i understand.....both speakers are working? so input thru IC's doen't work, is that it?Yes, both speakers are working thru optical connection. But if input thru ic's, one speaker lang ang working.
Loose connection maybe brader. Best to have a technician check it. Hinang lang yan. :)thanks sir, sana nga minor damage lang...will look a for technician,
Mga sir bka pwede mgpatulong ung pioneer sa8800ii q ngpoprotect mode kpg gnagamt ko yung speakerB ng o automatic off cia.sna matulungan nyo ako para mlaman ko kng anung pnagmumulan ng sira.tnx mga sir.
Hi guys,mahal ung d707 pero kung mint at walang replacement parts inside pwede na
Which is a good buy? Sansui AU-D707 @ 9k or Trio KA-730D @7k. How are the prices? I have no idea sa mga prices ng surplus amplifiers. Thank you..
@all,
if you are having problems sourcing parts for your surplus amps, you can pm me, i have over 400pcs of original ON semi power trannies that you can use for repairs....thanks...
ayos...thanks sir tony....will contact you in the future
you are welcome, i can even give you repair tips, i do not now do repairs but i can tell you kung binobola kayo ng techs ninyo....:D
Mga brader ok din ba ang Yamaha M-45? Or Sansui Alpha AU-607L Extra? :)Ako na lang bibibli m45 brader hehe
yey. my luxman m-02 is having static on its right channel. pina check ko po sa technician. they told me that the repair would cost 2k+. i have no idea kung ano po yung mga nasira. may ma suggest po kayo place na gumagawa ng ss amps? i want to make sure na reliable po bago ko sya ipagawa.:)
thanks.
Mga sir andito ko ngayon sa davao for some work. Dito sa may USEP. Tanong ko lang kung saan dito yungPM mo si ERIK taga DAVAO siya ;) http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?action=profile;u=35436
Surplus haven? Malapit lang ba sa location ko? Madami pa ba amps store dito kesa sa manila?
Mga sir andito ko ngayon sa davao for some work. Dito sa may USEP. Tanong ko lang kung saan dito yung
Surplus haven? Malapit lang ba sa location ko? Madami pa ba amps store dito kesa sa manila?
Are you also watching the Boom-Boom fight tonight? It's at USEP. Thanksactually that's our work in davao sir. the boom boom fight. hehehe. unfortunately we will be on our way back to manila tommorow morning :(
PM mo si ERIK taga DAVAO siya ;) http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?action=profile;u=35436thank you sir. I'll try kung magkaka chance na makaalis pa ko dito sa setup. sayang dapat pala nung pagdating na pagdating ko pa lang dito sa davao. na meet ko din sana si sir superman.
Mga sir andito ko ngayon sa davao for some work. Dito sa may USEP. Tanong ko lang kung saan dito yung
Surplus haven? Malapit lang ba sa location ko? Madami pa ba amps store dito kesa sa manila?
Mga bossing, brader and guru's first amp ko ay isang Luxman m-120a, near mint condition, bought at a shop in Dau, Mabalacat.Mganda yan lalo na kung may kapartner na C-120a na pre amp.
Newbie pa po ako kaya wala masyadong alam sa quality ng mga amps wether it's new, used or vintage.
Ano po masasabi niyo sa power amp na nabili ko. Any feedbacks will be highly appreciated.
Thanks... :-D
Mganda yan lalo na kung may kapartner na C-120a na pre amp.
Yun nga eh, nakita ko sa isang forum just recently, ang gandang ipartner.
Abang abang ako dito sa pdvd at baka may biglang magbenta nito... :-D
A few months ago, I bought a complete audio analogue system; a paganini cd player and a pucini se amp. Not being contented, I upgraded the amp to pucini setetanta to try out how 70watts will affect the sound imaging. It was melodious to say the least. Unfortunately a few weeks ago, I bought a marantz pm 550dc and I cant believe the sound coming out. It was fantastic to say the least. the unit cost me less than 10k and it sounded better than my system! I can't believe it. Now I'm hooked. I started looking for vintage marantz in Manila but I guess there is a reason why they call it vintage. it is difficult to find. I started ordering from the internet and hopefully, I get it before the end of the year :) If there is any good soul here looking to sell their vintage marantz, think of me :) I'm in the market to change my whole system.
mer0n akong vintage marantz receiver sr4000 bka my interested dyan
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Yun nga lang pahirapan maghanap nun, nga pala may binebenta sa akin na Pioneer M-77, ok naman ang specs nito kaya lang mas luma ito sa Lux ko. At mura pa nila binebenta kaya medyo nagdadalawang isip ako kung kukunin ko ba o hindi.
Hwag ka na mag dalawang isip bro at kunin mo na yan... One of the highly collectable Power amp ng pioneer yan and 1979 Spec-1 model for Europe version.
Ok sir will wait for the needed funds para dito, the local seller which has many amp sells it for 5k only.wow type ko yan next in line ako hhe..saan loc nyo sir? May mga bentahan ba ng surplus amp sa loob ng subic? May fieldtrip ulit anak ko by nov baka mapadaan kung may alam kung saan meron sa loob ty
Thanks sa info bro... ;D
Alam ko mismo sa angeles merun japanese & american audio/video surplus shop... ;)
Meron nga bro, one location where I bought my Luxman is at Dau Plaza, just a walk away from Dau terminal. Yung ibang bilihan sa angeles di ko pa alam, sabi nila galing sa mga americans mga usual na gears dun dahil dati nakabase sila sa Clark airbase. Meron nga daw kapartner na preamp yung Lux ko, c-120a and as I've searched sa internet maganda din ang specs niya at may porma pa...ah sa dau pa...nakapunta na ako dun once hehe.... Pero hidi sa store na may bentahan ng surplus amp.... Sa subic sa loob sana meron para madaanan sama pasyal hehehe.... Saan ka based sir?
wow type ko yan next in line ako hhe..saan loc nyo sir? May mga bentahan ba ng surplus amp sa loob ng subic? May fieldtrip ulit anak ko by nov baka mapadaan kung may alam kung saan meron sa loob ty
Taga tarlac po ako, alam ko meron nga sa subic along the road ko nakita nung minsan nag field trip kami though di na ako bumaba para tignan dahil di pa naman ako interesado nun sa mga amp.
Taga tarlac po ako, alam ko meron nga sa subic along the road ko nakita nung minsan nag field trip kami though di na ako bumaba para tignan dahil di pa naman ako interesado nun sa mga amp.nakaka addict mga vintage amp basta may technician ka lang na maasahan hehe....
bro, Merun tatlo surplus shop sa Tarlac at yun isa sa may LTO at yun isa sa papunta angeles duon sa malapit school of nursing/medicine, merun ako nakita sa kanila lux pre-amp...
nakaka addict mga vintage amp basta may technician ka lang na maasahan hehe....
Natignan mo ba bro kung ano model nung Lux na pre-amp? Tagal ko ng di nakakalibot kc kaya di ko alam na may surplus shop din pala dito sa Tarlac, tnx sa info bro... ;D
Okz, lang bro... Not sure kung c-35 MK??? and/or C-03B... Merun pa isa dyan malapit sa BUS terminal mismo sa tarlac na pati furniture and house hold kasama.
Mag-iikot nga ako this weekend at baka makabingwit ng preamp... :D
Ok bro, bilisan mo lang baka maunahan nakita (Joke!)... ;) :D ;D
anong kaguluhan ito?.....anong eksaktong address ng surplus shop na yan >:D >:D >:D
Yun nga lang pahirapan maghanap nun, nga pala may binebenta sa akin na Pioneer M-77, ok naman ang specs nito kaya lang mas luma ito sa Lux ko. At mura pa nila binebenta kaya medyo nagdadalawang isip ako kung kukunin ko ba o hindi.
Maraming shops dun mga bro, karamihan mga technicians sila...
Actually bro heto mga abelabol dun, will confirm if andun pa kapag nabalik ako
1. Technics a700mk2
2. Denon pma-500v
3. Yamaha AVX-2200dsp
4. Pioneer a702r
5. JVC rx-8000v
6. Denon AVR-1601
7. NAD 7250pre
8. Sony str-v35
9. TOA a-903a
10. Technics sa-dx940
11. Luxman m-120a (Ito yung nabili ko)
Ang location pala nun ay sa Dau Plaza, minutes away from Dau Terminal
Been here. Ito din yun may mga pro-audio stuff?
Ibalato mo na lang sa akin ang Pioneer M-77 if ever di mo kukunin.
Actually sir kinuha ko na, will decide what to sell later (Luxman m-120a or Pioneer M-77)...
Yes sir, Just went there again yesterday. Found some PA (mackie's, mcintosh, peavy etc...), receivers (sherwood etc...) and processors (iba iba brand), mixers (mic and generic) and a lot of brands that I don't recognized. Usually mga pang mobile po mga amp nia dun (e.g. Ramsa) at sa isang store may nakita ako na audio video distribution amp (nakalimutan ko lang ang brand) with lots of input and outputs at the back.
Was lookin for speaker to be paired on my Luxman amp, may nakita ako dun na Cerwin Vega VS-100, JBL 2800, Jamo floorstanders, Grundig, an old Sansui speakers (defective tweeters and edges), JBL j2050 BS. Meron din pala mga guitar amps like Hartke
Bilis ah hehehe.
Anong price range ng mga speakers nila? like yung sa Cerwin vega at JBL's?
Sayang kc bro, sabi nga nila "kapag nakita mo na kunin mo na at baka pagbalik mo wala na"...
Hahaha
@darkangel69: bro, anong price range ng mga AMP and pre -AMP?. may mga CD Players din ba?.
thank you.
gynco
yahoooo... welcome back... i missed this power amp.
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thanks to sir rene for reviving it. :)
bro, Merun tatlo surplus shop sa Tarlac at yun isa sa may LTO at yun isa sa papunta angeles duon sa malapit school of nursing/medicine, merun ako nakita sa kanila lux pre-amp...
May mga tarlac audiophiles pala. Magkita kita nga tayo minsan.
Saan banda sa may LTO? Balak ko puntahan next week.
Basta't vintage kahit malayo okay lang :) :) :)
Sige po mga brader minsan iset natin... ;D ; :) :)
Sige po mga brader minsan iset natin... ;D ; :) :)
Sama ako dyan.....maga guide pa kita.
Salamat brader, :) :) :)Mganda yun basta mcintosh....how much daw?
Try ko pasyalan yung sa may San Fernando, one time kc inalok ako ng isang Mcintosh na amp, mc2000 series, nakalimutan ko na exact model. Baka andun pa yun, sayang din... hehehe
^_Ka-Ernie malapit na ako umuwi dyan one week na lang hehhehe....
Mganda yun basta mcintosh....how much daw?
Ang sabi kasi nung may-ari ng shop puntahan daw namin at para ako na tumawad, di pa kasi kaya ng budget that time kaya di ko na binalikan.Now a days mahirap humanap ng mcintosh
Now a days mahirap humanap ng mcintosh
Will try to contact the seller this weekend as I've been busy these past few weeks...May nakapost na sansui ca-606 preamp kay beatnik..... Yun ang kapartner ng sansui ba-150 power amp bro.
May kukuha na brader eh, nga pala may nag-aalok sa akin ng Yamaha A-1000 (140w) at isang Victor A-X1000 (200w), tingin mo ok ba sila, medyo mataas ang asking at wala pang tawad.
Feedback naman diyan kung sino nakadinig na at nakakita ng mga amps na to...
Depends sa amps kung mint pa at virgin pa. Ok naman mga amps na nabanggit mo but I'm biassed on sui.
How about Luxman amps? My first amp was a Luxman m-120a, saw some Luxman this morning, Luxman L-505v and a Luxman L-48A...Ok ang Luxman.....most audiopurist like that
Got the Luxman L-505V... O0 O0 O0
Great catch!... How much the cost??? :)
Makikihalo lang ng konti. Kung 100 volts yang L-505V (Jap domestic model), meron yang adjustment for 220 volts sa loob, tabi ng transformer. The unit should be unplugged when you make the conversion.
In my case, I slid the switch from 100V to 220V when I got my unit over 10 years ago -- tapos ayaw tumunog! I then uncovered the 100v/220v switch plate, removed the wires connected to the 100v terminals and connected them to the 220v terminals.
After completing this process, I realized even the two outlets at the back of the unit are already 220v. Unfortunately, I realized I have already 7 vintage Luxman amps last year so I sold my 220-volt L-505V at a price slightly higher than my acquisition cost.
Looking at your L-505v sir sandawa I'm wondering why mine doesn't have that switch.
Can someone help me on figuring out how to wire my unit to 220V, any help will be highly appreciated. :-D
amplifier models go thru several revisions in the course of its production run which can run years....
i went to the pier yesterday. I saw 3 sansui au607. i just want to know if they're worth it for 4.5k. :)Okey na presyo
Been there (pier) for thee saturdays at wala ako nakitang sansui au-607, ang nakita ko a-707, au-d607x decade, au-d607f extra, au-d607g extra. Saan mo nakita bro yung au-607?Cguro yung nakita mo....he regarded as au-607 lahat yun....hula ko lang naman.
Cguro yung nakita mo....he regarded as au-607 lahat yun....hula ko lang naman.
Siguro nga po, ang hirap na hanapin mga sansui ngayun lalo na yung triple digits. Yung pinagkuhanan ko ng yamaha may mga amp din daw sa davao (sewing machine ang main line of business) at ilan duon mga sansui, di niya masabi kung anong model. Papakuha daw niya sa tao niya duon para malaman ano mga models. Based on reviews ng mga audiophile dito sa pdvd kagaya ni sir sandawa keeper mga sansui, para tuloy gusto ko makahawak at makadinig ng mga ganun. Sana...Yes lots of pdvd member kept sansui esp. hi end vintage sansui, like me also..... i have two alpha 907
Lucky you sir banesto, anyways abang abang din ako sa marketplace kung sakaling may gusto magpa-ampon ng mga sansui nila lalo na yung mga hi-end lines. Have met bro dana just recently and he shared a lot of insights in this hobby that we're into.Na meet ko rin si bro dana....he is a gud guy. marami rin sya ikunuwento skin about vintage amp.
Try ko din if meron nga sansui yung may shop daw sa davao, baka sakaling mga 907 yun na limited pa or de tubo na sansui, >:D >:D >:D
Na meet ko rin si bro dana....he is a gud guy. marami rin sya ikunuwento skin about vintage amp.
Yes lots of pdvd member kept sansui esp. hi end vintage sansui, like me also..... i have two alpha 907tama ka jan ka ernie. mahirap na humanap ng sui ngaun lalo na kpag sariwa. kya npakaswerte mo sa dalawang 907 mo :) O0... kaya itong mga hawak ko na sui nilagyan ko na ng kadena ng barko para di na makawala! >:D >:D
tama ka jan ka ernie. mahirap na humanap ng sui ngaun lalo na kpag sariwa. kya npakaswerte mo sa dalawang 907 mo :) O0... kaya itong mga hawak ko na sui nilagyan ko na ng kadena ng barko para di na makawala! >:D >:Dhahaha! gaano kaya kalaki ang kandado niyan
hahaha! gaano kaya kalaki ang kandado niyannaka welding Ka ernie >:D >:D >:D
naka welding Ka ernie >:D >:D >:D
Naku, mahihirapan pala tanggalin pero kaya yan sa acetylene ka ernie... marami yata naka tago si ka roger na magaganda vintage gear. ;) :D ;DMaraming nakatago yan c ka roger....puro naka welding lahat hahahaha!
Maraming nakatago yan c ka roger....puro naka welding lahat hahahaha!nasa vault na yung iba pa..nilalabas ko lang kapag papainitin >:D >:D
nasa vault na yung iba pa..nilalabas ko lang kapag papainitin >:D >:DNasa vault hahaha! Ayaw maalikabukan.
Nasa vault hahaha! Ayaw maalikabukan.Pati ung mga naka set-up ka ernie my kulambo un pag gabi! para iwas Dengue!! ha ha ha! >:D >:D >:D
Pati ung mga naka set-up ka ernie my kulambo un pag gabi! para iwas Dengue!! ha ha ha! >:D >:D >:DAyos yan.....at iwas din sa baha
Ayos yan.....at iwas din sa bahahindi nabaha samin... highlands kasi ;D ;D maulap nga lang >:D >:D
hindi nabaha samin... highlands kasi ;D ;D maulap nga lang >:D >:DKay uncle General laging bumabaha......lumalagutok ang gulugod nya sa likod pag pinapanhik nya sa itaas
Kay uncle General laging bumabaha......lumalagutok ang gulugod nya sa likod pag pinapanhik nya sa itaasnapakahirap talaga ka ernie kapag bahain ang lugar. palagi na lang kakaba kaba kapag nanjan na ang ulan. napakabigat pa naman ng mga gears ni General :( :(
ang mga gears nya. hayun pati paa nya namamaga na yata.
napakahirap talaga ka ernie kapag bahain ang lugar. palagi na lang kakaba kaba kapag nanjan na ang ulan. napakabigat pa naman ng mga gears ni General :( :(Cnabi ko naka source ka ng sony 338 esd.....hayun ideretso mo na raw sa kanila
Cnabi ko naka source ka ng sony 338 esd.....hayun ideretso mo na raw sa kanilatamang tama un sa pioneer A200 nya Ka ernie O0 O0.. sigurado mapapalakas na naman volume nun at baka tumalsik na woofer nung polk audio nya >:D >:D
Magigiging maganda ang Xmas mo nyan ka roger heheheheh >:D >:D :-Xsamantalahin ka ernie hangat may mga nakukuha pa vintage amp... ang mahirap kapag gusto mo na bumili pero wala kana man mabili ;D ;D ;D
samantalahin ka ernie hangat may mga nakukuha pa vintage amp... ang mahirap kapag gusto mo na bumili pero wala kana man mabili ;D ;D ;DYep! hehehehe,
samantalahin ka ernie hangat may mga nakukuha pa vintage amp... ang mahirap kapag gusto mo na bumili pero wala kana man mabili ;D ;D ;D
Tama po kayo sir, kaya habang may madaanan ka na good find kunin mo na kaagad at baka pagbalik mo naunahan ka na pala... ;D ;D ;Dayos yan sir! nakahuli ka ng malaking isda >:D >:D >:D
Share ko lang ang Luxman L-505v ko...
Before...
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After...
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ayos yan sir! nakahuli ka ng malaking isda >:D >:D >:D
Luxman amp are also quite good :)
Sir banesto I don't remember if I had told you this but one time my source had a Sansui AU-6900 as is, had blown output transistors and for a moment decided to get it but later on declined kasi baka di ko mapaandar. Never had a Sansui kasi and I was wondering how they really sound compared to my Yamaha's and Luxman.You said that for me before.....Well kanya kanyang tenga yan....Some were Luxman lover....Some were Sui's
You said that for me before.....Well kanya kanyang tenga yan....Some were Luxman lover....Some were Sui's
lover etc....etc. For me Sansui esp vintage hi end amplipiers sounded best. Other amps lack in mids or hi's or bass.....other amps was good in mid's and hi's but lack in bass or vice versa..... As for Yamaha.... I have also
Yamaha amps before maybe 3 but I'm not satisfied so I sold them. I have so many Vintage Sansui amps esp
hi end....Two of my hi end amps like Sansui AU-919 and Sansui AU-Xlll Mos Vintage goes to Forseti. They are all
super mint condition, Yung iba di ko na maalala kung sino nakabili.
Many pdvd members kept Vintage Sansui like Sir Sandawa, Forseti and many others. You can ask some
advice with them. Sansui Alpha 907 made me feel satisfied so wala na akong ganang maghanap pa ng ibang
mga amps. Parang nakuha nya lahat..... Yung bass....mid....Hi.....perfect lahat para sa akin. At pulidong
tumunog.
Just try Sansui amps sir para malaman mo ang pagkaka iba.....Ikaw mismo makakapansin nyan, kaya
lang to be safe kumuha ka ng mint na higher model lalo na kung hi end.
you guys should have a listen to a Super Leach amp.....might change your minds... >:D >:D >:D
you guys should have a listen to a Super Leach amp.....might change your minds... >:D >:D >:DI do have Quad 303, 306,405 and 405 mk2 ....krell,musical fidelity, and other british amps before.
I do have Quad 303, 306,405 and 405 mk2 ....krell,musical fidelity, and other british amps before.Die hard Sansui fan talaga si ka ernie. :)
Then later on switch to sansui.
Have been researching on those western amps (Leach, Oviation, E-amp, Quad 405-2) that uses onsemi transistors and would build one before this year ends. Will probably start with the Oviation sx which is a 15w RMS symmetrical CFA topology Pure Class A, it uses MJL1381 and MJL1302 on its output stage.
Before I even got my vintage amps I bought a defective Marantz pm54 to be used as a case for a Class A amp that uses MJ21195/96 output transistors but never finished building one as I got busy looking for integrated amps in pier and later on near our area (Pampanga).
would be unfair to compare Class A amps with Class AB amps, tilted in favor of class A palagi...
Die hard Sansui fan talaga si ka ernie. :)Para kasing may magic hehehehehe....
guys, just a heads up...thanks Sir! I'll ask my friend about it.
i went to farmer's in cubao, to deeco to buy irons for an ss amp project,
a floor above deeco, i saw this japanese surpluss shop,
black sansuis, must be four or five of then there,
also saw a panasonic, denon and another bookshelf speakers
and floorstanders too....
You said that for me before.....Well kanya kanyang tenga yan....Some were Luxman lover....Some were Sui's
lover etc....etc. For me Sansui esp vintage hi end amplipiers sounded best. Other amps lack in mids or hi's or bass.....other amps was good in mid's and hi's but lack in bass or vice versa..... As for Yamaha.... I have also
Yamaha amps before maybe 3 but I'm not satisfied so I sold them. I have so many Vintage Sansui amps esp
hi end....Two of my hi end amps like Sansui AU-919 and Sansui AU-Xlll Mos Vintage goes to Forseti. They are all
super mint condition, Yung iba di ko na maalala kung sino nakabili.
Many pdvd members kept Vintage Sansui like Sir Sandawa, Forseti and many others. You can ask some
advice with them. Sansui Alpha 907 made me feel satisfied so wala na akong ganang maghanap pa ng ibang
mga amps. Parang nakuha nya lahat..... Yung bass....mid....Hi.....perfect lahat para sa akin. At pulidong
tumunog.
Just try Sansui amps sir para malaman mo ang pagkaka iba.....Ikaw mismo makakapansin nyan, kaya
lang to be safe kumuha ka ng mint na higher model lalo na kung hi end.
thanks Sir! I'll ask my friend about it.
sir Ernie, I have been told that my Sansui BA-150 came from you...BA-150 sounds detailed with gud hi's and mid's. It's only 45wpc but it sounded well enough esp at lower
How would you compare its sound signature with other Sansui amp in your stable?
I think it's the PC park Japan shop, same as the one in MCS. I find their pricing on the high side though.Okey bro.
BA-150 sounds detailed with gud hi's and mid's. It's only 45wpc but it sounded well enough esp at lower
volume.
thanks sir for the insights...It will definitely sound best if you pair it with CA-606 sansui pre amp.
its definitely a keeper for me.
It will definitely sound best if you pair it with CA-606 sansui pre amp.
sana makatisod ako nyan sir. hehe.Mas lalong okey yan....tube pre amp. Hybrid set up.
im currently using little dot MKII tube preamp
Just came from H&R in Pasig. They now carry branded surplus amps/speakers. I saw a few polk studio monitor 50s and 70s floorstanders, onkyo htib, martin logan floorstanders and subs, a lot of sony subs, etc.
Make sure to test the units before buying. Every time I go there, I see someone complaining about a defective product although a tv I bought there 3 years ago still works perfectly.
Sir, san po yung H&R in Pasig?
Sir, san po yung H&R in Pasig?you mean HMR?
meron ding "japan surplus" sa shaw blvd, kung sakay ka ng jeep pa reliance, nadadaanan yan bago kumaliwa...
Salamat mga sir,
Probably visiting this weekend.
Matanong ko lang. Marami pa rin bang AMPS na mabibili sa Pier? I would really like to find a good music stuff with small budget. I read the start of this thread. Merong recommendations na I agree that are good AMPS. But its way back 2003.
Any models you can recommend na I can still find?
Mahal na may problema pa >:D
Ang hirap pa kausap ng mga nagtitinda dun, power consumption daw ang sukatan nila ng presyo pero bakit mas mataas bentahan nila ng power amplifier nila samantalang halos kalahati ang agwat ng integrated amplifier sa power amplifier. Isa lang sagot skin, ganun daw kasi talaga.
Ang hirap pa kausap ng mga nagtitinda dun, power consumption daw ang sukatan nila ng presyo pero bakit mas mataas bentahan nila ng power amplifier nila samantalang halos kalahati ang agwat ng integrated amplifier sa power amplifier. Isa lang sagot skin, ganun daw kasi talaga.Mayroon mataas ang Power Consumption pero mababa ang Power Output ng amp.
Salamat mga sir sa tips.
So in all. Wag na akong pumunta kc sayang ang oras at pagod ko?
With that, any other place na makakabili ako ng magandang Integrated Amp / Surplus Amp na sakto sa buget ko? Or, do you know any member ng Pinoy DVD na nagbebenta?
Salamat talaga ng maramin sa mga inputs.
Para sa mga surplus/vintage amps, anong mga parts ang dapat palitan so that the amp will be usable for many more years, and usually magkano ang nagagastos for these replacements. I guess this additional cost should be factored in para sa mga nagplaplanong bumili ng mga surplus or vintage amps ;). Hope somebody can comment on this .Thanks in advanceMostly mga caps ang pinapalitan.
Para sa mga surplus/vintage amps, anong mga parts ang dapat palitan so that the amp will be usable for many more years, and usually magkano ang nagagastos for these replacements. I guess this additional cost should be factored in para sa mga nagplaplanong bumili ng mga surplus or vintage amps ;). Hope somebody can comment on this .Thanks in advance
Inquiry lang mga masters, may unit ako from japan, paano ko mapapa-convert yung fm radio nya? kasi di ba iba ang frequency ng japan? TIA.
Ingat lang po sa mga SELLER na MUSLIM sa SOUTH PIER.....may BAD Experience na ako sa kanila pero di naman lahat, STYLE Divisoria ang modus kapag TINURO mo kailangan bilhin mo na o kaya kapag may hinanap ka na amp o kaya speaker isasama ka dun sa ITAAS ng store nila pag-akyat mo madami pala sila dun tapos bibigyan ka ng sira na unit kapag di mo binili papalibutan ka nila....Nakakatakot pala...sabagay di naman ako pumupunta dyan.
Nakakatakot pala...sabagay di naman ako pumupunta dyan.
rechannel ang tawag duan, merong gumagawa nyan sa pier...
Actually di naman ako bumili ng items sa kanila meron lang ako nabalitaan na ganyan ang nabili ko sa kanila dati nung uso pa yung VHS eh yung 4 Head ng VHS ang binibili ko yung AYOS na 4 HEAD ng VHS isinama ako dun sa itaas ng store nila tapos nung nandun na binibigyan ako ng Sira na HEAD tapos sabi sa akin palitan ko na lang daw yung isang head na sira tapos ako na din daw ang mag-align, kabwisit yan sabay nagdatingan yung mga kasama dun sa itaas at kinabahan na ako naka-tingin sa akin lahat....Abroad ka na ba?
Abroad ka na ba?
Yes abroad na ako ka Ernie...musta na mga GEARS ?Okey naman mga gears ko. Hanap ako Epos ES 14 spkrs, Meron kaya dyan?
any shop or store selling surplus amps somewhere in muntinlupa city.....?Look for sulit,, marami benta dun surplus na taga Muntinlupa. You can ask them saan exact location nila.
Look for sulit,, marami benta dun surplus na taga Muntinlupa. You can ask them saan exact location nila.
No assurance na tatagal pa mga amp sa pier,....my big bro is an avid buyer ng mga surplus amp sa pier,wala pa 2 weeks usok na! >:DGanyan talaga sa PIER swerti swerti lang lalo na ngayon taghirap na makakuha magandang amp. Dami nakaabang doon at marami naka reserve.
^_Sayang wala na ata yung kakilala ko doon na nagpaparating ng mga Surplus si Aling Gloria name nya....Wala na nga yata bro. Inalis na yata mga tindahan dun.
medyo mahal yung price nung sa Muntinlupa. parang yung ibang benta dun dito din galing and naging doble na presyo. ::) >:DAbang abang na alang sa MP.
When we say surplus amps, kasama ba dito yung mga amps na binebenta sa surplasan?Tama
medyo mahal yung price nung sa Muntinlupa. parang yung ibang benta dun dito din galing and naging doble na presyo. ::) >:D
Parang kilala ko yung taga muntinlupa na yan ah, dalawa pa yata account nun... >:DAng mahal magbenta, ala sta rosa.
Ang mahal magbenta, ala sta rosa.
Hmmm... mababa siya ng kaunti dun bro, ang kaparehas nya yung isa na mahilig yata sa robot...
saan nga po sa muntinlupa located store nya, kasi may nakita ako sa bayan pero hindi lahat electronics tinda nyaYou can see his cp# at sulit.com. Marami sya for sale doon na amps and ask him where he is located. Di pa ako
saan nga po sa muntinlupa located store nya, kasi may nakita ako sa bayan pero hindi lahat electronics tinda nyaHeto # nya 09981257049.....call/text na lang para malaman mo place nila.
Ka ernie i just got a very mint almost scratchless Sansui Alpha 907 today. Bought in Japan, buti napakiusapan ko friend ni gf from tokyo. Truly this is one exceptional amp kaya pala sobrang nababaliw ka. Nakakabaliw nga pala talaga tunog, i have yet to test it with my b&w684. Excited na ko umuwi ng province. :)
Nakakabaliw din presyo but worth every cent talaga. :)
Wow! Swerte mo, mahirap ngayon humanap nyan at sariwa pa nakuha mo. Iba ka talaga ka joey hehe..... may
kasabihan " Pag may tyaga may nilaga." Palagay ko mababaliw ka rin dyan hehehe. Congrats ka joey
Nice !!! Congrats Bros Denton and Banesto...naway magkaroon din ako nyan ;D
Naintriga ako sayo ka ernie kasi me 3 ka, now i know why. This is the amp that i could live with for a long long time. The best that i ever had.
Sulit sir pandidoy. To die for ika nga. Hehe
Nice !!! Congrats Bros Denton and Banesto...naway magkaroon din ako nyan ;DSana bro magkaroon ka rin.....may kamahalan nga lang pero sulit naman.
nice amp sir.... kano kaya yung scratchless amp sir ::)
Sana bro magkaroon ka rin.....may kamahalan nga lang pero sulit naman.
@ denton...... Nakakaintriga ba talaga? Sarap Sarap di ba? hehehe :) ;) :)
Question lang mga brader, do we need to shell out huge amount of money para lang ma-attain ang audio nirvana or even just the satisfaction of hearing a good sounding amp and speakers?
I know di tayo pare pareho ng lalim ng bulsa, yung iba dito sobrang lalim, yung iba sakto lang, ako naman kakaunti lang lagayan ng bulsa ko, hehe. Anyways most of the audio enthusiast here swear to the sound of Sansui (bias ba?), I'm sure as with most everything that's tangible you can't have it all pero I like the idea na sana maging open tayo sa klase ng amp kung mosfet man o transistor ang output na gamit at huwag puro na lang Sansui ang nababasa ko dito sa thread na ito. After all, this is a thread for Surplus amp and not Sansui thread. Madami na ang nagpost na sabi trust your ears pero puro Sansui lang ineendorse, what's with them anyway? Padinig nga minsan para naman mai-compare ko sa mga amp ko na nadinig na at ginagamit ngayun, hehehe
Currently I have acquired a Diatone DA-A7000, it's a 6 channel amp and compared to the 607 and 707 of sansui I would choose the sound of the Diatone hands down.
Minsan depende din sa speaker na nakakabit eh. Ako nga may 50 watter kolokoy - never heard - amp. Pero it rocks the house with finesse... ;)
Meron din ako Sui 707 at 919, pero mas nagagamit ko si never heard.
Medyo nakukuha mo din pala nasa isip ko bro, :-D
Same with the Sony TA-1055a, a 20watter amp pero you would be surprise at how it sound, huge soundstage for a little amp.
Take note, pag tiningnan mo ang loob ng amp na to... matatawa ka, kasi parang yung mga amps na mumurahin at liliit ng components. Kaya talagang nagulat ako. Traffo, tranny at caps puro mukang kolokoy lang... ;D
Minsan depende din sa speaker na nakakabit eh. Ako nga may 50 watter kolokoy - never heard - amp. Pero it rocks the house with finesse... ;)
Meron din ako Sui 707 at 919, pero mas nagagamit ko si never heard.
Malaking bagay talaga amp-speaker matching. I've experienced this (Di ba Ka Ernie? ;)) Madami akong amps na TOTL, pero isa lang ang talagang gusto ko :)
Malaking bagay talaga amp-speaker matching. I've experienced this (Di ba Ka Ernie? ;)) Madami akong amps na TOTL, pero isa lang ang talagang gusto ko :)
I have never heard an amp this good. Ever!Ganyan din ako noon kaya nga kahit mahal pikit mata na lang ng pagbili.
Ikaw ang number one endorser ka ernie ng alpha 907. Hehe and a good one at it.
Question lang mga brader, do we need to shell out huge amount of money para lang ma-attain ang audio nirvana or even just the satisfaction of hearing a good sounding amp and speakers?Inaanyayahan kita sa amin para madinig mo.
I know di tayo pare pareho ng lalim ng bulsa, yung iba dito sobrang lalim, yung iba sakto lang, ako naman kakaunti lang lagayan ng bulsa ko, hehe. Anyways most of the audio enthusiast here swear to the sound of Sansui (bias ba?), I'm sure as with most everything that's tangible you can't have it all pero I like the idea na sana maging open tayo sa klase ng amp kung mosfet man o transistor ang output na gamit at huwag puro na lang Sansui ang nababasa ko dito sa thread na ito. After all, this is a thread for Surplus amp and not Sansui thread. Madami na ang nagpost na sabi trust your ears pero puro Sansui lang ineendorse, what's with them anyway? Padinig nga minsan para naman mai-compare ko sa mga amp ko na nadinig na at ginagamit ngayun, hehehe
Currently I have acquired a Diatone DA-A7000, it's a 6 channel amp and compared to the 607 and 707 of sansui I would choose the sound of the Diatone hands down.
Inaanyayahan kita sa amin para madinig mo.
Thank you for the invitation sir, i will gladly accept it.. :)Okey update mo lang ako once you go to manila.
Timbrehan kita bro once may lakad pa manila...
any amplifier is useless without any speakers connected to it...
and a matter of finding the right match between amp and speakers...
Pwede bang makasama dito? Haven't heard a Sansui yet ^-^
naku baka ka ma hooked....:D
Pwede bang makasama dito? Haven't heard a Sansui yet ^-^maganda tunog sis..
maganda tunog sis..
detalyado..
Very subjective ito. Depende rin kung saan na nasanay ang tenga ng listener. Our ears will eventually adjust or adapt to what we usually listen to. I dont think I can claim that "this amp is better than this one". Its just a matter of taste, 'ika nga nila.:)Agree ako sa iyo dyan, iba iba preference ng bawat listener. Most important is MATCHING GEARS. I myself is a
Minsan din, when we suddenly hear something different from what we have, akala mo mas maganda na. In time, makikita mo rin mga flaws (para ding sa bebot ba? :D)
Ayos! Pwede rin ako dala speaker ;DMarami pala ako magiging bisita hahahaha....
maganda tunog sis..Andyan pa ba 2 Technics amps mo sis?
detalyado..
naku baka ka ma hooked....:D
Ok lang para at least may idea na. If okay talaga then I might buy one next time. ;D
maganda tunog sis..
detalyado..
Addictive masyado sir. Antaba tumunog ng 907, Ganda ng high and mids. Sobrang swak sa b&w speakers. Anlinis ng high.
Kahit wag 907. Mahirap yata humanap at mahal masyado. ;D
Pero gusto ko rin yan marinig syempre ^-^
Hindi ako sansui fanatic dati, i've had many sansui's before kadamihan 907 pero hindi alpha series, but when i heard the alpha 607 pa lang everything changed...umorder agad ako ng alpha 907 without hearing one.
Iba pala talaga pag alpha. For keeps. Kumpletos rekados amigos. :)
Kahit wag 907. Mahirap yata humanap at mahal masyado. ;D
Pero gusto ko rin yan marinig syempre ^-^
Agree ako sa iyo dyan, iba iba preference ng bawat listener. Most important is MATCHING GEARS. I myself is a
Sansui fanatics. Syempre iba naman ang gusto ng iba. Let's just respect each other's choice. Di ba reymer?
Marami pala ako magiging bisita hahahaha....yayain nyo sir yung anak ng hari ng dubai baka sakaling gusto nyang i demo yung harbeth nya na for sale paired with sansui >:D >:D
yayain nyo sir yung anak ng hari ng dubai baka sakaling gusto nyang i demo yung harbeth nya na for sale paired with sansui >:D >:Dhindi ata bagay sansui-harbeth mas maganda rhyme accuphase-harbeth >:D >:D ano nga kaya tunog ng harbeth sa sansui Alpha 907 ::)
hindi ata bagay sansui-harbeth mas maganda rhyme accuphase-harbeth >:D >:D ano nga kaya tunog ng harbeth sa sansui Alpha 907 ::)
Simple analogy lang audio. The reason why marami nagsasabi na sobra ganda tunog ng Sansui because they have tried and heard other vintage brands like Pio....r, Lu...an, Ke....d and ended up liking Sansui. I agree not all models of sansui are good sounding, pero when you get the chance to hear specific models, I'm sure game ender.
I myself was a trying hard hobbyist to high end audio before. I used to own Krell KSA 50, and I still have some brands from my amp collections, pero when I heard the vintage sansui amps BAM!!!! yun yung sound na gusto ko. Simple principle lang audio " Cause and Effect", siyempre pag maganda tunog automatic sasabihin ng listener na maganda, mahirap magsinungaling sa sarili ha ha.
But again, nobody is pushing the brand sansui here, it's just so happen sobra ganda lang talaga tunog.
Simple analogy lang audio. The reason why marami nagsasabi na sobra ganda tunog ng Sansui because they have tried and heard other vintage brands like Pio....r, Lu...an, Ke....d and ended up liking Sansui. I agree not all models of sansui are good sounding, pero when you get the chance to hear specific models, I'm sure game ender.Nadale mo sir.....Galing ng paliwanag mo ha ha ha.
I myself was a trying hard hobbyist to high end audio before. I used to own Krell KSA 50, and I still have some brands from my amp collections, pero when I heard the vintage sansui amps BAM!!!! yun yung sound na gusto ko. Simple principle lang audio " Cause and Effect", siyempre pag maganda tunog automatic sasabihin ng listener na maganda, mahirap magsinungaling sa sarili ha ha.
But again, nobody is pushing the brand sansui here, it's just so happen sobra ganda lang talaga tunog.
Let's find out sa session kila ka ernie. :)Talaga bang totoots na yan hehehe.
I completely agree with you sir lawrence, i tried many high end brands. Ina talaga ang alpha. My search is over.
Another testament for liking sansui, you can check other international forums eg. Audiokarma, audio review etc.......you will see a lot of Europeans, Americans, Japanese and other Asian counterparts, they are also praising sansui with utmost respect. In fact they are drooling to get and collect sansui in their stash.That's right, reader din ako ng international forum. Kaya nga wala nang nadating na vintage sansui upscale model dito sa atin dahil mataas ang demand sa other countries. Korek ka dyan Mr. Forseti.
Andyan pa ba 2 Technics amps mo sis?yup buhay pa..paired with dynes happy with it
yup buhay pa..paired with dynes happy with itWow naman! Ano model ng dynes?
Kayang kaya mo alpha 907 sir heheeto bagay kay myke
Wow naman! Ano model ng dynes?
Nadale mo sir.....Galing ng paliwanag mo ha ha ha.
Hoy-hoy-hoy! :o... nakaka ingit naman kayo. Kelan ba session kay ka ernie para makasama naman ako. ;)Chief.. sa sabado na daw.... >:D
Chief.. sa sabado na daw.... >:DWala akong sinasabing Sabado.
I agree not all models of sansui are good sounding,
the Sansuis to avoid are those coming in from the middle east, yung plastic ang sides, lawanit ang pang ilalim, these were sold to ofws then....That's right sir, I also have that before. Mga anim na patong pa yata yun.
eto bagay kay myke
http://www.olx.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/45234036/Sansui+Reference+amplifier+aux-907i+mos+limited?referralKeywords=Sansui&event=Search+Ranking,Position,3-17,57
Is this model comparable or at par with the a907? Saw this unit last Dec in Sta Rosa. Hanggang Kitkat na green lang ang nabili ko doon sa shop.
eto bagay kay myke
http://www.olx.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/45234036/Sansui+Reference+amplifier+aux-907i+mos+limited?referralKeywords=Sansui&event=Search+Ranking,Position,3-17,57
Hays pangarap ko nalang yang model na yan haha
Grabe naman ang presyo nyan, para ka na rin bumili sa HifiDo. I bought mine at just over P10k about a decade ago.Sobrang grabe talaga sir nani, Sino kaya may ari nyang sansui au-x111 mos vintage na 230k? Mas GRABE ang
Sobrang grabe talaga sir nani, Sino kaya may ari nyang sansui au-x111 mos vintage na 230k? Mas GRABE ang
presyo nun. Naka adds sya sa other sites.
bka ikaw ka ernie nagpamahal ng presyo ng sansui? ;D ;D ;D ;D dati may nakita akong 111mos sa ebay, 70th, namahalan pa ako. heheheNaku po ! hindi po manong dodie.....pag ako nagbenta laging lugi hehe.....
Naku po ! hindi po manong dodie.....pag ako nagbenta laging lugi hehe.....
bka kako nabasa nung seller yung mga reviews dito kya nagmahal! hahahahaha actually manong kht sa ebay, tumaaas din presyo ng konti eh. kayo na lang talaga ang pagasa namen na magkaroon ng sansui! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;DKayang kaya mo yan manong hehehe. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Sobrang grabe talaga sir nani, Sino kaya may ari nyang sansui au-x111 mos vintage na 230k? Mas GRABE ang
presyo nun. Naka adds sya sa other sites.
Naku po ! hindi po manong dodie.....pag ako nagbenta laging lugi hehe.....
Parang kilala ko kung sino yan ;D
Parang kilala ko kung sino yan ;D
Pinoydvd member ?Maaari ;D
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Luma na rin ito sir, naingatan lang ng 1st owner kaya mukhang bago. I think it's 1985 model.
Kaya NOS naman pala ehGaling ah hehehe....tamang tama yung NOS, eksakto.
N-aingatan ng
O-wner
S-werte ka sir
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uy kaw yung nakakuha sa bulacan bro?
Sa Pasay sa LRT Taft Buendia may nakita ako bagong bukas surplus appliances mukhang bagong bukas lang last month ko lang nakita eh.
Magkano binebenta yung sa bulacan at kamusta condition? Pabulong na din kung sino para mapasyalan, hehenbenta na bro 8k, no repair daw, pero hindi ko nakita actual sa pics lang bro
nbenta na bro 8k, no repair daw, pero hindi ko nakita actual sa pics lang bro
Nasilip mo na ba bro kung meron magaganda dun?hindi gano bro nagmamadali ako eh, pero marami at mukhang alaga sa punas ang itsura ng mga binebenta.
oo nga kamura nunAt kung presentable pa at orig ang innards abah bargain na yun
alaga sa punas ng wipe out/mc hehehe, mapasyalan ngahaha..sige chief, balitaan mo kami. ;)
It's better to audition. I used to pair my pioneer 8800ii with wharfedale 9.1 with very good synergy.
In my other amps with gain control fixed at max and have the preamp as main control for all inputs.
Thank you sir.
Just resurrecting this nice thread :DI have a PM90, natengga ng 3++ years, yesterday sept 29,, sinet-up ko sya, ampangit na ng sound, parang muffled sya, I tried on 2 sets of speakers, Sansui LM330 and mission MX5...pareho ang tunog...I will try cleaning baka sakaling umayos pa ang tunog nya...sayang pag nagkataon, ganda pala ng review
Sharing this review / objective measured performance of the Denon PM-90.
By today's state of the art, said vintage gear can still stand toe-to-toe!
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/marantz-pm-90-review-vintage-amplifier.26724/
^ang suggestion ko pag ganyan, at lest 24 hours straight na nakapower on lang, zero volume...hindi ba delikado sir? sabagay hindi naman siguro mag iinit masyado kasi hindi naman sa tumutunog....thanks sir
hindi ba delikado sir? sabagay hindi naman siguro mag iinit masyado kasi hindi naman sa tumutunog....thanks sir
hindi ba delikado sir? sabagay hindi naman siguro mag iinit masyado kasi hindi naman sa tumutunog....thanks sir
depende sa amp, class A amps kahit walang sound umiinit
Meron pa kayang bilihan ng surplus amps? Saan lugar kaya meron? Baka meron kayong mga updates dyan.
Sa pier, halos wala na, if meron, yung mga di magandang brand. Check FB marketplace, maraming sellers doon....
Meron pa kayang bilihan ng surplus amps? Saan lugar kaya meron? Baka meron kayong mga updates dyan.
Last time I've checked beginning of the pandemic wala na sir. Sa mga probinsiya meron pa like a 1950's heathkit mono amp na nakuha ko sa Ilocos Sur
I have a PM90, natengga ng 3++ years, yesterday sept 29,, sinet-up ko sya, ampangit na ng sound, parang muffled sya, I tried on 2 sets of speakers, Sansui LM330 and mission MX5...pareho ang tunog...I will try cleaning baka sakaling umayos pa ang tunog nya...sayang pag nagkataon, ganda pala ng review