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Home Theater => Audio => Speakers => Topic started by: @nk71 on Feb 13, 2006 at 12:52 PM
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Hi Im planning to have upgrades for a 5.1 HT set up from using old Mini component speakers to Mid-end speakers...like wharfes, Gales etc...my budget would be around 25k-30k...
fellow speaker enthusiast kindly post here stores where I can audition different variety and brands of speakers...
your help will be highly appreciated...
thanks :)
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where are you located sir?sir kung sa mini compo nyo ilalagay mas makakabuti siguro na i-isang tabi nyo nalang yan at bumili ng bagong amp...... hindi ka nakakasiguro kung ilag watts yan rms.....maraming mura ba maganda kung bibibli ka ng bookshelfs na wharfedale sobbra na yan...jung b&w dagdag ka konti para sa amp.....aurum cantus liesure 25k ata .....check mo yung audio video stores thread for more info ;D
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where are you located sir?sir kung sa mini compo nyo ilalagay mas makakabuti siguro na i-isang tabi nyo nalang yan at bumili ng bagong amp...... hindi ka nakakasiguro kung ilag watts yan rms.....maraming mura ba maganda kung bibibli ka ng bookshelfs na wharfedale sobbra na yan...jung b&w dagdag ka konti para sa amp.....aurum cantus liesure 25k ata .....check mo yung audio video stores thread for more info ;D
I'll be using yamaha rxv 657, can u tell me which stores has a wide variety of low to mid end speakers to fill up a 5.1 or 7.1 set up...thanks again
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parksquare sir mag ikot ka dun madami...di ko pala masayado naintindihan yung post mo hehe sorry!!! ;D
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Try Spectra in Parksquare and Architechtural Audio in Greenbelt 1.
OK mga tao doon they will entertain all your queries.
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Try Spectra in Parksquare and Architechtural Audio in Greenbelt 1.
OK mga tao doon they will entertain all your queries.
dun sa mga store na yan okay lang ba magpa audition? hindi ba yung nakakahiya kse magkakabit sila tapos hindi ka naman bibili? hindi ba sila maiinis? wala kse gusto ko sanang magtry ng ganito or ganyan pero naisip ko lang na baka magalit sila..hehehe wala lang.... :)
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Ganun din ang iniisip ko dati. Jahe naman yata dahil medyo hassle ang kabit-tanggal ng connections at buhat-lipat ng speakers, hindi naman pala bibili. Pero sa Spectra, very willing silang mag-audition kahit hindi ka bibili.
When I was looking for a sub, I already decided on a 10" Velodyne sub kahit hindi ko pa naririnig (dahil nahihiya nga ako magpa-audition kung hindi ako bibili). So sa Spectra in Park Square, dahil bibili na ako ng Velo, nagpa-demo ako ng Velo CHT-10 sa DVD video. Disappointing ang Velo - ang tunog parang bumubulong lang, halos wala akong marinig. ??? ??? ??? Nasanay yata ako sa USAudio 512 ko. O baka naman mas OK ang Velo sa music. Anyway, nag side-by-side demo sila sa Klipsch RW-10 (both models were retailing at P24K each at the time). Ganda ng Klipsch RW-10 sa HT! - buo ang tunog, lakas ng gapang.
Sabi ko, bibilhin ko na ang RW-10, paki kuha na ng new unit. Sabi nila, demo unit lang daw ang meron; kung gusto ko ng bago, meron na ngayon sa Eastwood branch (Audio Excellance); kung hindi ako puwede sa Eastwood, they'll have the unit ready in Park Square the following day. Sa tingin ko, the salesman did not immediately tell me that they did not have a new unit in stock because he was not expecting me to buy right then and there anyway.
So, even if they're not expecting you to buy, the Spectra staff will still be very heplful in answering all your questions and auditioning the gears you're interested in. Besides, their prices are very competitive, so if you do decide to buy, sa Spectra ka na. Highly recommended.
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Im coming from san juan by d way...Guys nasubukan naba ninyo sa Audio World banawe...Are there Varieties of Speakers to choose from basta budget wise lang...
thanks sa mga replies nyo..
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OK lang mag audition doon kahit hindi ka pa bibili.
As what i've said OK mga tao doon.
Sasagutin pa nila mga tanong mo at magbibigay sila suggestion sa iyo.
In the end ikaw pa rin ang magdedecide iga-guide ka lang nila.
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OK lang mag audition doon kahit hindi ka pa bibili.
As what i've said OK mga tao doon.
Sasagutin pa nila mga tanong mo at magbibigay sila suggestion sa iyo.
In the end ikaw pa rin ang magdedecide iga-guide ka lang nila.
thanks again
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here are some list...
Audio World Tech. located at 749 Banawe cor. Sct. Alcaraz, in between Retiro and Delmonte ave.
Tel.7327716 and 7426843- Jason
spectra - park square1=8185493- Jose
sights and sound - park square1,makati=7527115- Amor
listening room- 6329577- Minnie
listening in style- 6329345; 6329385- Joann
dcm - cubao=9115903
5th avenue-parksquare1= 8178756 - noel
You can also fine gale at Abensons and they also have B&W with the same price range
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here are some list...
Audio World Tech. located at 749 Banawe cor. Sct. Alcaraz, in between Retiro and Delmonte ave.
Tel.7327716 and 7426843- Jason
spectra - park square1=8185493- Jose
sights and sound - park square1,makati=7527115- Amor
listening room- 6329577- Minnie
listening in style- 6329345; 6329385- Joann
dcm - cubao=9115903
5th avenue-parksquare1= 8178756 - noel
You can also fine gale at Abensons and they also have B&W with the same price range
wow malamang pasyalan ko lahat itoh...
thanks Assassin101
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you might want to audition the MS Carnival (sa 5th Avenue) series for your budget na 30k may kasama na yun na sub ;D or yung MS Avant series kaya lang for 30k dipa kasama yung sub (front, center and rear lang)
Mordaunt Short 904 Php 13,350
Mordaunt Short 905 7,275
Mordaunt Short 903 9,350
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Total Php 29,975
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bro vtec! musta mukang mag MS ka na ba? hehe
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bro vtec! musta mukang mag MS ka na ba? hehe
kaunting time na lang and will finally decide which brand to buy :D more inclined to buy the MS ;D
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wat are u using now ba bro? n wat are your choices as of now? hehe
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wat are u using now ba bro? n wat are your choices as of now? hehe
Dati Yammy & Bose, now yammy & Euros8. Looking into getting Marantz + MS or HK + Wharf ;)
@nk71 - will try to visit The Home Theater mamaya and audition the wharf sana abutin ko pa itong bukas. will pm you the result. ;)
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bro vtec! yan din choices ko before! hehe hirap mamili eh dami kasi. pero better tlaga to audition it para youll hear wat u really like. lamang ang wharfes in the bass dept than the MS. pero sa detail mas brighter ang MS.
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@nk71 - will try to visit The Home Theater mamaya and audition the wharf sana abutin ko pa itong bukas. will pm you the result. ;)
@nk71 - went to The Home Theater kanina, unfortunately wala sila stock ng Wharf kaya di ako na audition :( but Sonny was very accomodating and helpful ;)
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bro vtec! yan din choices ko before! hehe hirap mamili eh dami kasi. pero better tlaga to audition it para youll hear wat u really like. lamang ang wharfes in the bass dept than the MS. pero sa detail mas brighter ang MS.
as posted above hindi ako naka audition ng Wharf baka sign nga ito na MS na talaga ang bilhin ko ;D
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Pareho tayo ng choices, sir.
First choice ko ang Mordaunt-Short; second choice ang Wharfe Diamond 9. I prefer brighter speakers, and brighter daw ang MS, mas pogi pa ang design.
But after reading the thread linked below, Wharfedale na lang ako:
Mordaunt Short Service Center SUCKS (5th avenue/Avesco)
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=42532.0
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bro vtec! wat MS are u planning to get ba? the carnival6?
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@nk71 - went to The Home Theater kanina, unfortunately wala sila stock ng Wharf kaya di ako na audition :( but Sonny was very accomodating and helpful ;)
thanks for d update...been busy rin kasi sa work kaya d ko rin matutukan ang pag audition...besides u unahin ko receiver...bago speakers... :)
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bro vtec! wat MS are u planning to get ba? the carnival6?
diko pa sure kung yung avant or carnival ang kukunin ko, what do you suggest I get. Thanks
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im not sure din bro eh! hehe i have the avant 904 kasi...pero gulat nga ko wen i saw the carnival mga less than 9t dba n 2woofers pa? ask natin yung iba dito bakit layo ng price nila? hehe or baka intro price?
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im not sure din bro eh! hehe i have the avant 904 kasi...pero gulat nga ko wen i saw the carnival mga less than 9t dba n 2woofers pa? ask natin yung iba dito bakit layo ng price nila? hehe or baka intro price?
Hi, I went to 5th avenue Park Square awhile ago...saw Carnival 6 priced at 10,100 where did u saw less than 9t...kung 8t plus ang carnival 6 it's a good buy...pero kung higher sya, I'll go for Wharfe... :)
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The quote I got from them last week if I remember correctly amounts to around 36.5k for the five speakers and Marantz 5400 yung sub additional 10k pa. Fyi ;)
You might want to call them 9254452-54 look for Irwin Tayo.
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im not sure din bro eh! hehe i have the avant 904 kasi...pero gulat nga ko wen i saw the carnival mga less than 9t dba n 2woofers pa? ask natin yung iba dito bakit layo ng price nila? hehe or baka intro price?
I like the sound nung MS lalo na nung concert DVD yung demo but nung action movies medyo mas malakas yung bass nung Euros although mas dinig mo naman yung detail like broken glass dun sa MS. If everything goes well might get it na din from 5th Avenue and hopefully walang maging problem sa after sales ;D
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bro @nk71 i saw that din at 5th ave eh so malamang same price dn yun
bro vtec yup mas detailed nga yung MS. edi add sub nalang for additional bass! hehe
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...tama kayo boss kt...una ko nabili yung carnival 9 ( subs ) paired with a BW 303 as fronts..medyo boomy nga.. nung nag promo dito sa amin yung MS, 0% interest 12 mos, di ko talaga mapigil sarili ko to buy carnival 6..P850.00 lang pr month, madaling pumayag si misis..nung ma break-in na... perfect match sa carnival 9.. magaganda magbigay ng details ang carnival 6... :)
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One thing I observed with mid end speakers is that they are usually harder to drive (translates to more "power hungry") than their entry level counterparts. But when well driven, they sound heavenly.
So dont forget to drive your mid end speakers well with good receivers and amps. I would recommend a minimum of mid end receivers (ranging from P30+k) w/ mid end bookshelves and top mid end models (40+k) even outboard power amps for mid end floorstanders. Floorstander need more power to drive them to their best.
If you are budgeting for mid end speakers, do remember to factor in the mid end AVR or amp budget. Sadly, this is often overlooked.
Yes, maybe an entry level receiver can drive it "sufficiently", but you may not be unleashing the potential of your mid end speakers. Di ba sayang naman? :)
Its something like a F150 pickup or Expedition fitted w/ a 1.3 liter engine. :-[
It still does the job din naman somehow di ba? The question is, how well? :-\
just my 2 cents.
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For best results, here is my 2 cents recommendation for most speakers in our market (excluding Dynaudio ;D):
Entry level bookshelf & small satellite speakers: entry level receiver & up (20k up)
Entry level floorstander: Mid level receiver & up (30k up)
Mid level bookshelf: Mid level receiver & up (30k up)
Mid level floorstander: Top mid level receiver up (40k up) and power amps if possible.
UP means the more powerful AVR, the better. Even better w/ power amps (read PRE OUTS (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=50034.28) thread, reply#33 in the general HT section).
Bookshelves are the safest, specially if you are more into HT since the subs will handle the LFE.
Floorstanders are good for those who (50/50 music/HT users) like pure 2 channel music w/ no subs (like me). Also for bigger rooms, dont make the mistake of using floorstanders in small rooms or it may become boomy.
If on a budget & you really want FS, try going for those older AVR's in the B/S section. they were kick @$$ P40+k receivers years ago and they will sure beat any entry level AVR's of the same price in terms of SQ, minus the latest fancy new features of course.
Again, just my friendly 2 cents. :)
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actually not all mid to high end speakers are hard to drive. There are models that have 91db and up sens. they can even be driven by as low as 3 watts to 8 watts (tube). If shopping for speakers make sure you get the specs and from then on you can more or less estimate how much amp power will you need to make those speakers sing. Home audition is best.
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Got this from a book a few days ago, I am glad it came from an expert (stereophile consultant) & it reinforces my conclusions. For those wanting to pair entry level electronics with your mid end speakers, read first.
The total system's performance is limited by the resolution of the worst component in the signal path.You may have superb loudspeakers (LS) & source, but they will be wasted w/ a poor quality pre-amp in the signal chain.
Quality matching between components is essential to getting the most sound for your budget.
High-quality LS at the end of a chain containing a bad sounding component can even make the system sound worse than low quality LS. The high resolution speakers reveal all the imperfections of the electronics upstream of them.
I've listened to $400 LS driven by $30,000 worth of electronics & $9000 LS driven by budget integrated amplifiers. I can state categorically that the electronics & source components are every bit as important as - or more important than - the loudspeaker. Although the LS significantly influence the overall sound, high quality source components (TT,CDp's) and good electronics (pre amp & power amp) are essential to realizing a musical high end system.
Robert Harley - Complete Guide to High End Audio
page 16