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Title: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: Kakashi03 on Aug 26, 2015 at 09:21 AM
Mga braders need ko help nyo gusto ko sana dismantle yung tweeter ko kaso hinde ko matangal no visible screws ito yung pics

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sana may makahelp, tried to rotate counter clockwise but hinde ko umiikot thanks sana may makatulong
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: Kakashi03 on Aug 26, 2015 at 09:21 AM
Pure acoustics floor stander  :-[
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: markcrenz on Aug 26, 2015 at 09:44 AM
Pry at the edge near the terminals to separate the front and back plates. But after that what? You'll rewind/replace the coil yourself?

Pwede rin palitan mo na lang. Daiichi NDT-25 ganda ng tunog, 4" faceplate, small but powerful Neodymium magnet assembly will fit 2-1/2" to 3-3/4" hole.
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: dana on Aug 26, 2015 at 09:46 AM
likely nakadikit by glue like material,hmmm.
try mo acetone or lacquer thinner  drops sa circumference edge.
it should  soften the glue, then remove.
try mo muna sa small area, baka mag react ung vinyl finish...
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: Kakashi03 on Aug 26, 2015 at 11:09 AM
Pry at the edge near the terminals to separate the front and back plates. But after that what? You'll rewind/replace the coil yourself?

Pwede rin palitan mo na lang. Daiichi NDT-25 ganda ng tunog, 4" faceplate, small but powerful Neodymium magnet assembly will fit 2-1/2" to 3-3/4" hole.
  papareplace ko sna sir mark yung voice coil.. dun po ba mismo sa outerlayer ko try tungkabin?
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: Kakashi03 on Aug 26, 2015 at 11:11 AM
likely nakadikit by glue like material,hmmm.
try mo acetone or lacquer thinner  drops sa circumference edge.
it should  soften the glue, then remove.
try mo muna sa small area, baka mag react ung vinyl finish...

will try that sir push outside po ba after?
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: Kakashi03 on Aug 26, 2015 at 11:35 AM
Pry at the edge near the terminals to separate the front and back plates. But after that what? You'll rewind/replace the coil yourself?

Pwede rin palitan mo na lang. Daiichi NDT-25 ganda ng tunog, 4" faceplate, small but powerful Neodymium magnet assembly will fit 2-1/2" to 3-3/4" hole.

sa may gilid po ba sir mark? yung sa may hinang ng speaker wires?
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: Gino on Aug 26, 2015 at 11:39 AM
There are screws. I suspect the front has a vanity plate. Get that out, you may have access to the screws from the front. This is most likely if you see there might be some wood between the back of the speakers and the front panel. Of course I am speculating. Proceed at your own risk.

My guess, the black plastic part is bonded. The metal speaker housing screws on to that from the front.
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: Kakashi03 on Aug 26, 2015 at 12:11 PM
There are screws. I suspect the front has a vanity plate. Get that out, you may have access to the screws from the front. This is most likely if you see there might be some wood between the back of the speakers and the front panel. Of course I am speculating. Proceed at your own risk.

My guess, the black plastic part is bonded. The metal speaker housing screws on to that from the front.

un din ang hinala ko sir pero hinde ko ma tangal yung plate try ko yung suggerstion ni sir mark
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: tony on Aug 26, 2015 at 12:58 PM
@kakashi03, magnetic ba yan? hindi kaya piezoelectrc tweeter yan?
mukhang disposable eh....kaya walang screws?
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: Kakashi03 on Aug 26, 2015 at 01:00 PM
@kakashi03, magnetic ba yan? hindi kaya piezoelectrc tweeter yan?
mukhang disposable eh....kaya walang screws?

un po ang problem ko sir hinde ako alam kung disposable po ba ito o hinde ito po yung link ng speakers http://pure-acoustics.com/design/v4/speaker.php?id=102

salamat sir tony
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: markcrenz on Aug 26, 2015 at 02:29 PM
Tingin ko mas tama si Gino. You can try removing the gray aesthetic front by wedging an old credit card, ingat lang syempre wag makayod baffle.

My concern is that the tweeter's coolant could have turned to crud which IME is impossible to remove, kaya pagkatanggal 'di na marerepair at papalitan mo na talaga.
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: Kakashi03 on Aug 26, 2015 at 02:36 PM
Tingin ko mas tama si Gino. You can try removing the gray aesthetic front by wedging an old credit card, ingat lang syempre wag makayod baffle.

My concern is that the tweeter's coolant could have turned to crud which IME is impossible to remove, kaya pagkatanggal 'di na marerepair at papalitan mo na talaga.

is this kind of tweeter disposable sir mark?
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: markcrenz on Aug 26, 2015 at 02:42 PM
Ewan. Disposable or not kung sa akin papalitan ko na. Wala pa ko pinarewind na tweeter that measured and sounded the same as the original. Yes tumutunog after repair pero iba na.
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: tony on Aug 26, 2015 at 02:46 PM
ano nga pala nangyari jan? sunog ba or amoy sunog?
strnage looking tweeter, looks cheap....
i will go with markrenz recommended replacement...
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: Kakashi03 on Aug 26, 2015 at 02:47 PM
Ewan. Disposable or not kung sa akin papalitan ko na. Wala pa ko pinarewind na tweeter that measured and sounded the same as the original. Yes tumutunog after repair pero iba na.

anung ma susugest nyo sir na tweeter for replacement? wla kasi specs sa likod nito..

1” silk dome tweeter with oil cooling system for crystal clear highs

yan nakalagay sir sa site

yung sa dai-ichi wala na ata yung model na Daiichi NDT-25
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: tony on Aug 26, 2015 at 02:48 PM
Ewan. Disposable or not kung sa akin papalitan ko na. Wala pa ko pinarewind na tweeter that measured and sounded the same as the original. Yes tumutunog after repair pero iba na.

yup no guarantee na babalik sa orginal condition....
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: Kakashi03 on Aug 26, 2015 at 02:49 PM
ano nga pala nangyari jan? sunog ba or amoy sunog?
strnage looking tweeter, looks cheap....
i will go with markrenz recommended replacement...

na over driven sir humina yung output nito left side kesa sa front.
may naamoy ako nun pero nawala output nya pero bumalik din after days ng testing ko
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: Kakashi03 on Aug 26, 2015 at 02:50 PM
yup no guarantee na babalik sa orginal condition....
Ewan. Disposable or not kung sa akin papalitan ko na. Wala pa ko pinarewind na tweeter that measured and sounded the same as the original. Yes tumutunog after repair pero iba na.

anu ma susugest nyo sir mark and sir tony for replacement?

1” silk dome tweeter with oil cooling system for crystal clear highs yan lang kasi nakita ko sa specs
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: tony on Aug 26, 2015 at 02:50 PM
na over driven sir humina yung output nito left side kesa sa front.
may naamoy ako nun pero nawala output nya pero bumalik din after days ng testing ko

ganyan nga ang nangyayari pag overdiven lalo na kung low power yung ginamit mong amp at ss pa...
yung tweeters ang unang nasisisra...
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: tony on Aug 26, 2015 at 02:51 PM
try to ask the original vendor for replacement tweeter para original pa rin,
and then learn from this experience...
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: Kakashi03 on Aug 26, 2015 at 02:52 PM
ganyan nga ang nangyayari pag overdiven lalo na kung low power yung ginamit mong amp at ss pa...
yung tweeters ang unang nasisisra...

kaya nga sir akala ata ng pinsan ko pang outdoor may marerecomend ka ba sir na ka size and ka pareho halos nito for replacement?
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: tony on Aug 26, 2015 at 02:58 PM
kaya nga sir akala ata ng pinsan ko pang outdoor may marerecomend ka ba sir na ka size and ka pareho halos nito for replacement?

at least ngayon alam na ng pinsan mo kung ano ang mangyayari pag inabuso ang gamit...;)
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: Kakashi03 on Aug 26, 2015 at 03:00 PM
at least ngayon alam na ng pinsan mo kung ano ang mangyayari pag inabuso ang gamit...;)

if ever palitan sir sa SnS ko nabili ito hinde ko lang alam kung mismo nag bebenta si boss vic ng replacment ng tweeter
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: tony on Aug 26, 2015 at 03:03 PM
if ever palitan sir sa SnS ko nabili ito hinde ko lang alam kung mismo nag bebenta si boss vic ng replacment ng tweeter

ask them, they should be able to help you,
if not then you know whom to avoid buying from next time...
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: Kakashi03 on Aug 26, 2015 at 03:07 PM
ask them, they should be able to help you,
if not then you know whom to avoid buying from next time...

thanks sir tony!!!
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: markcrenz on Aug 26, 2015 at 03:19 PM
anung ma susugest nyo sir na tweeter for replacement? wla kasi specs sa likod nito..

1” silk dome tweeter with oil cooling system for crystal clear highs

yan nakalagay sir sa site

yung sa dai-ichi wala na ata yung model na Daiichi NDT-25
meron pa siguro. madami models wala sa website pero available sa stores
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: dana on Aug 26, 2015 at 03:40 PM
yes, look cheap tweets and disposable
better replace as suggested .
dami pa nyan replacement na dai ichi tweets sa Raon stores kung makapasyal ka.
pry at the outer edge of the frame. you can also  use fine solid wire to cut/remove.
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: jiraiya03 on Aug 26, 2015 at 05:58 PM
yes, look cheap tweets and disposable
better replace as suggested .
dami pa nyan replacement na dai ichi tweets sa Raon stores kung makapasyal ka.
pry at the outer edge of the frame. you can also  use fine solid wire to cut/remove.

Maraming slamat sir any advise po sa pagpili?
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: jiraiya03 on Aug 26, 2015 at 05:58 PM
Will try to to megamall sa showroom ng dai ichi
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: tony on Aug 26, 2015 at 06:04 PM
if you are near antipolo area, my friend Nemesio Seriritan might be able to help...https://www.facebook.com/nemesio.seriritan?fref=ts
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: jiraiya03 on Aug 26, 2015 at 07:33 PM
if you are near antipolo area, my friend Nemesio Seriritan might be able to help...https://www.facebook.com/nemesio.seriritan?fref=ts

sir tony im from taguig anung contact number nya sir?
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: jiraiya03 on Aug 26, 2015 at 07:40 PM
Thanks sir tony
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: Kakashi03 on Aug 27, 2015 at 08:56 AM
natangal ko na sir kasama pala ata buong face palte nito..

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dalhin ko mamaya sa dai-ichi megmall sana may sakto sa diameter
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: markcrenz on Aug 27, 2015 at 09:03 AM
Mapapaghiwalay pa gray sa black. Paano nga pala yan nakakapit sa baffle?
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: Gino on Aug 27, 2015 at 09:10 AM
Ayos. Mission accomplished. Match mo lang specs sa new tweeter.
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: Kakashi03 on Aug 27, 2015 at 09:19 AM
Mapapaghiwalay pa gray sa black. Paano nga pala yan nakakapit sa baffle?

naka glue yung gilid sir aalisin ko pa ba yung face plate sir? or kasama na rin yan sa papalitan ko?
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: Kakashi03 on Aug 27, 2015 at 09:20 AM
Ayos. Mission accomplished. Match mo lang specs sa new tweeter.


thanks sir gino check ko yung suggested ni sir mark sa dai-ichi
 sakto sana itong tweeter na ito

http://www.amazon.com/Vifa-BC25TG15-04-Silk-Dome-Tweeter/dp/B002WE1APG/ref=sr_1_12?s=car&ie=UTF8&qid=1440636540&sr=1-12&keywords=silk+dome+tweeter


Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: markcrenz on Aug 27, 2015 at 09:30 AM
naka glue yung gilid sir aalisin ko pa ba yung face plate sir? or kasama na rin yan sa papalitan ko?
kung gusto mo retain original look. pwede rin di na lalo na kung Vifa ipapalit mo.
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: markcrenz on Aug 27, 2015 at 09:36 AM
Wala na nga pala Vifa ngayon. Tymphany na.

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The BC25SG15-04 1" dome tweeter from Tymphany (formerly Vifa) can meet the most demanding requirements for audio excellence.
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: Kakashi03 on Aug 27, 2015 at 09:44 AM
Wala na nga pala Vifa ngayon. Tymphany na.


sa dai ichi nalang ako titingin sir
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: Kakashi03 on Aug 27, 2015 at 09:53 AM
Wala na nga pala Vifa ngayon. Tymphany na.


available po ba ito sir mark locally? and may iba pa ba dealer ng soft dome tweeter sa atin?
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: Kakashi03 on Aug 27, 2015 at 10:45 AM
San pa kaya may available na dome tweeter bukod sa dai-ichi?
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: dana on Aug 27, 2015 at 10:54 AM
Maraming slamat sir any advise po sa pagpili?
Will try to to megamall sa showroom ng dai ichi

makakapili ka sa megamall dai ichi showroom. am just not sure if they can sell them .before kasi, they don't sell there.
they may still have the ordinary paper cone type tweeter or the soft dome type.prefer the soft dome.
else, you can find them in raon, dai-ichi product sellers.

pero teka, mukhang piezoelectric type yan?wala ba syang crossover capacitor (if u can check...)
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: Kakashi03 on Aug 27, 2015 at 11:13 AM
makakapili ka sa megamall dai ichi showroom. am just not sure if they can sell them .before kasi, they don't sell there.
they may still have the ordinary paper cone type tweeter or the soft dome type.prefer the soft dome.
else, you can find them in raon, dai-ichi product sellers.

pero teka, mukhang piezoelectric type yan?wala ba syang crossover capacitor (if u can check...)

wala ata sir directa ko lang ba
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: tony on Aug 27, 2015 at 11:15 AM

pero teka, mukhang piezoelectric type yan?wala ba syang crossover capacitor (if u can check...)

yan din ang suspetsa ko Don base sa hitsura ng tweeter,
TS, tignan mo kung hihigupin ng tweeter yung bakal...
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: Kakashi03 on Aug 27, 2015 at 12:57 PM
makakapili ka sa megamall dai ichi showroom. am just not sure if they can sell them .before kasi, they don't sell there.
they may still have the ordinary paper cone type tweeter or the soft dome type.prefer the soft dome.
else, you can find them in raon, dai-ichi product sellers.

pero teka, mukhang piezoelectric type yan?wala ba syang crossover capacitor (if u can check...)

Wala na daw dai-ichi sa Raon ngaun sir

yan din ang suspetsa ko Don base sa hitsura ng tweeter,
TS, tignan mo kung hihigupin ng tweeter yung bakal...

hinde nga ata magnet ito sir tony
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: tony on Aug 27, 2015 at 01:04 PM
ni sa guni-guni hindi ko naisip na gagawin nila yan :o
 magkano bili mo sa speakers na yan?
unang kita ko pa lang kinutoban na ako... >:D
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: Kakashi03 on Aug 27, 2015 at 01:13 PM
ni sa guni-guni hindi ko naisip na gagawin nila yan :o
 magkano bili mo sa speakers na yan?
unang kita ko pa lang kinutoban na ako... >:D

16k as a set sir regalo ko kay erpat ito nung pasko
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: markcrenz on Aug 27, 2015 at 01:47 PM
you buy $200 branded speakers, you get $10-20 worth of drivers. mas malaki cost of box and finish.
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: Kakashi03 on Aug 27, 2015 at 02:03 PM
uu nga sir e...bale nextime
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: praktikal on Aug 27, 2015 at 02:06 PM
San pa kaya may available na dome tweeter bukod sa dai-ichi?

try mo ask ka master anthony...
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: dana on Aug 27, 2015 at 02:32 PM
Wala na daw dai-ichi sa Raon ngaun sir



dati may showroom rin cla dun, yun ang wala na.
pero, may mga dai-ichi products pa rin around sa mga tindahan...
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: markcrenz on Aug 27, 2015 at 02:39 PM
uu nga sir e...bale nextime
wala ka magagawa ganun talaga sa market
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: Kakashi03 on Aug 27, 2015 at 02:43 PM
Sige sir salamat meron pa daw ndt 25 sa pasig wala pa raw stock sa megamall
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: tony on Aug 27, 2015 at 04:57 PM
sa golden mars merong mga tweeters...
obligado ka na rin na maglagay ng dividing network...
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: tony on Aug 27, 2015 at 04:58 PM
16k as a set sir regalo ko kay erpat ito nung pasko

yung US Audio ko 6.5k lang...still good up to now, dai-ichi ang me gawa...
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: pTrader on Aug 27, 2015 at 06:10 PM
yung US Audio ko 6.5k lang...still good up to now, dai-ichi ang me gawa...

yung cross-over ba niyan de-tubo? :)
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: tony on Aug 27, 2015 at 06:59 PM
yung cross-over ba niyan de-tubo? :)

no....:D
Title: Re: How to removed this kind of tweeter
Post by: Kakashi03 on Aug 28, 2015 at 10:50 AM
yan din ang suspetsa ko Don base sa hitsura ng tweeter,
TS, tignan mo kung hihigupin ng tweeter yung bakal...

magnet pala ito sir nahihigop nya soldering iron ko..