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Home Theater => Audio => Speakers => Topic started by: AngryBird on Jun 22, 2001 at 08:32 PM
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I'm looking to set up my home theater and was offered by a local store some decent prices on these two brands. I'd just like to know if anybody here has had any good or bad experiences with Yamaha and/or Wharfedale speakers.
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May I invite you to Electronics depot to hear a yamaha and denon comparison.
While you are there.. check out our DVD sale Buy 2 take 1 Free.
thanks,
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Wala pa akong natry na Yamaha speakers.
Pero I do have wharfedale 7.2 speakers yung anniversary
edition nila dati. The build quality is just plain.
not too good unlike mga ibang mas branded speakers.
Pero matibay naman sya and the sound is just fine.
Ang only complain ko lang is medyo mahina sya compared
sa ibang speakers, yun lang siguro reason kung bat
mas mura sya sa other branded speakers. I think d ata
sya umaabot ng 100watts e.
Hope this info helped you.
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AngryBird :
I have a Yamaha NS-55 Speaker (main) and NS-C120 (Center). Considering their price... this is what they call a "Bang for the Buck".
You may visit Listening in Style (Shangri-la) & Listening Room (Mega Mall) to check out Yamaha... then listen to Wharfedale speakers... Let your two precious ears be the judge...
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Yeah, I know I should listen first. Do these audio stores actually help you out in testing these speakers? I mean, I can actually have them set up all 5 or 6 speakers for me to try out?
And if they don't, do you guys know any techniques on how to roughly estimate or approximate the quality/performance of these speakers (or for any other loudspeaker brand for that matter)?
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Dear Angrybird:
Our store would like to invite you to listen to different kinds of speakers that will suit your taste and budget. We have a Denon and Yamaha AVR combination and you can choose whatever speaker you want. We have low end speaker systems to high end.
Pls. visit us along Libis, (in front of FORD).
While you are there pls. check out our Region 3 sale.. Buy 2 Take 1 FREE!!!
thanks...
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Hi Angrybird,
Which specific Yamaha receiver are you referring to? Ditto for the Wharfdale speakers. What's the budget so we could comment/suggest alternatives?
When I bought my system 9 months ago, I listened to all the brands that I could get my hands on. For receivers, I listened to Sony, Sony ES, Yamaha, Denon, Onkyo, NAD, Sunfire/ATI, EAD. For speakers, I listened to B&W, Mission, Tannoy, Paradigm, Definitive Tech, PSB, etc.
Stereo performance was critical to me as I have quite a bit of CD's. On this criteria alone, I shortlisted Onkyo, Denon, and NAD as I found the Yamaha's sound to be quite unnatural/too processed and rather thin/lean. The Onkyo was sounded warm while the Denon's standout quality was the soudstage. In the end, I found the best compromise in the NAD T760.
As for speakers, I shortlisted the B&W 300 series (I found that I preferred this over the more expensive 600 series)Mission 73-series, PSB, and Dynaudio. In the end, I can't get the kind of pace and resolution of the Dynaudios anywhere else so I treated myself to the Audience line.
I've read that the Yamaha's have since significantly improved their stereo performance while maintaining excellent home theater clout but I haven't auditioned for myself to find out.
About Wharfdale, I think this is one company that has seen better days. Although they're trying a revival of sorts with thir latest offerings.
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I got the Wharfedale 8.1 for my speaker B of my AVR to be use as pipe in music in another room. I only have a small budget that's why I chose it. It sound great in the store but I was not really able to listen to it very well.They use Yam 596. I got since its very cheap and I know nothing could go wrong. When I tested it, the midrange was okay but the tweeter, you can hardly hear it. I tried everything but still the same.It can be bi wired so I tried connecting to the tweeter only and it was really weak. I want to know if anyone have tried Wharf 8.1 and what is your experience? Im bringing it back tom to have it check. Im using Yam 496.
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I got the Wharfedale 8.1 for my speaker B of my AVR to be use as pipe in music in another room. I only have a small budget that's why I chose it. It sound great in the store but I was not really able to listen to it very well.They use Yam 596. I got since its very cheap and I know nothing could go wrong. When I tested it, the midrange was okay but the tweeter, you can hardly hear it. I tried everything but still the same.It can be bi wired so I tried connecting to the tweeter only and it was really weak. I want to know if anyone have tried Wharf 8.1 and what is your experience? Im bringing it back tom to have it check. Im using Yam 496.
I used to use my Wharfedale 7.2 as front speakers and I agree that the tweeter is a bit lacking in detail. You can't pump the volume up on these babies too. The price is ok though (4.5k a pair) for the sound, nice midrange and sufficient bass for a small room. It is used as surrounds as I'm now using my Dynaudio Audience 40 for my fronts. I tell you these Dynaudios can really play clean and loud (150W long-term power handling). You need a decent recvr/amp to push them though.
On the yamahas, I find the stereo sound a bit dry and unnatural (just my opinion), I agree on rtsy's preference on the NAD T760 recvr. Stereo sound on it is very good. I'm using a Harman/Kardon AVR 4000 DD/DTS recvr, btw.
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Hello,
First thing is the receiver, Yamaha's sounds too shrill for my taste and a bit thin in the mids thought they have good bottom end bass. But I would suggest you to audition Denon, Marantz and Musical Fidelity! I personally purchased the now discontinued Sony N9000ES and E9000ES range so I can't recommend you something that is not available anymore :)
Wharfedales is okay but they are fairly ordinary sounding, check out Dynaudio, Sonus Faber, Energy or Mission. These are a set of musical speakers that you can't go wrong with!
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I returned the Wharfedale 8.1 this morning and replaced it with B&W 303. It sound a lot better but more expensive . With my limited budget I think the Yamaha is okay for me for now. Anyway how much are the NAD and Harman? Have you tried Genelec speakers? Its being used by my office before and I think its one of the best. A lot of Top studios use Genelec like Sony Main Studio in New York. Try also peerless its from Denmark same as Dynaudio. They make mission speakers and there is a distributor here. They sell it as raw, meaning just the drivers and tweeters and no box but he can make a box if you want. Its very affordable.
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San ba meron NAD receivers sa Metro Manila, and how much is NAD T760? Do have any feedbacks abt Yamaha RXV-620? Sony STR DB930?
Thanks in advance.
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--> San ba meron NAD receivers sa Metro Manila,
Audio Visual Driver over at Shangri-la Mall.
--> and how much is NAD T760?
PhP45-50k.
--> Sony STR DB930?
Heard this when buying a receiver for my bro-in-law. Much preferred the Onkyo TX-DS575 or the Yamaha 595 with better effects steering.
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--> But I would suggest you to
--> audition Denon, Marantz and
--> Musical Fidelity!
Where can I hear Marantz in Manila? Does MF now make a receiver?
--> I personally purchased the now
--> discontinued Sony N9000ES and
--> E9000ES
Have you tried upgrading the firmware? What version are you using. What's the latest on Sony's plans to enable this unit with DVD-A/multichannel SACD? I heard beofre that Sony was going to sell a third box to do the upgrade. Magnificent units. I helped my boss choose this one. :)
--> Dynaudio, Sonus Faber
If your budget is for Wharfdale or B&W 300 series, these would be way out of the league sadle as these are great speakers. :(
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Hi,
As i've read your recommendation i would like to know kung saan ba talaga yan warehouse sa libis? and what number?
by the way, i'm planning to buy yamaha RX-V1000 is it a good choice?
do you have some advise?
Allen
Dear Angrybird:
Our store would like to invite you to listen to different kinds of speakers that will suit your taste and budget. We have a Denon and Yamaha AVR combination and you can choose whatever speaker you want. We have low end speaker systems to high end.
Pls. visit us along Libis, (in front of FORD).
While you are there pls. check out our Region 3 sale.. Buy 2 Take 1 FREE!!!
thanks...
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i have a yamaha cntr & sur spkrs(forgot the model na eh), which i bought from listening room 7 months ago. the price is 3,500 for the whole set. ok naman yung sound pero parang flat yung sound ng sur spkrs. i hav an onkyo tx-sv444 n avr, b&w na front and a subs na bundled sa tv. im planning to buy a new subs pag me pera n siguro....
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Hello Aln welcome to PinoyDVD,
If your planning to get a sub start checking this. What's Your Subwoofer & Specs? Part 2 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.cgi?board=htaudio&action=display&num=1008666075) It might help.
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Which of the following has a good quality sound output?
Fenton, Targa, Dai-chi, Konzert?
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What are the prices on these stuff?
You might want to consider enty level models from specialist brands like B&W, Mission, PSB, Acoustic Energy, Paradigm. Likely to sound better for the money and has better resale value when you upgrade later on.
Many pre-owned models are floating around. 'Tis the time of year for upgrades.
Check out http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pinoydiophiles for more quality audio discussions.
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Guys, I'm looking for new speakers in the same class as Yamaha. Yamaha and Gale are in the same price range, any feedback as to what is better? Also, Gale rear speakers feature the bi-polar design, supposed to give a "sound dispersion associated with movie theaters". Is this design really better than the classic design? Thanks for any advice.
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Bi-polar and di-polar speakers provide a wide dispersion of sounds that can't be localized - a desireable trait for movie surrounds. They are better placed on the sides rather than directly at the back. Excellent for HT, not always for multichannel music.
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I see... So if I want to use my system for both movies and music, then I should stick to the conventional speaker designs?
Also, any feedback on Polk Audio speakers?
Thanks very much!!!!
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I see... So if I want to use my system for both movies and music, then I should stick to the conventional speaker designs?
Also, any feedback on Polk Audio speakers?
Thanks very much!!!!
Some audiophiles have both, switching to one or the other depending on the source material used. Many classical SACDs have ambiance on the surrounds so a dipole or bipole is preferred. OTH, some jazz and pop DVD-As have drums or percussion at the back so a direct firing coventional speaker is preferred. You'd be in luck if your receiver has selectable A and B speaker set for the rear.
Polk Audio is an American brand with models in the mid-price range that are excellent. Though I heard they compete with Bose speakers head-on. Personally, I prefer the more neutral sounding British speakers. ;D
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hi im new here as well, but i would just like to give my opinion on your inquiry. Both yamaha and gale are good entry level systems. And yes their pricing is very favorable and competitive. I myself had to choose 2mos ago which to get. I auditioned both, and to tell you frankly, my amateur ears we're impressed by both brands. I however took Gale speakers, and im very happy with it's performance and movie/music flexibility. goodluck and happy new year!@!! :)
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hi im new here as well, but i would just like to give my opinion on your inquiry. Both yamaha and gale are good entry level systems. And yes their pricing is very favorable and competitive. I myself had to choose 2mos ago which to get. I auditioned both, and to tell you frankly, my amateur ears we're impressed by both brands. I however took Gale speakers, and im very happy with it's performance and movie/music flexibility. goodluck and happy new year!@!! :)
sir bookshelf or floorstander yung i-audition mo? how much? 8 ohms din ba ang gale? kasi ang yamaha ata 6 ohms
thanks :D
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I personally prefer direct firing speakers for my surrounds. My main reason is I've always thought of dipolar and bipolar speakers as speakers created for the prologic days when the surround signals were not discrete and a wider and indirect dispersion was more ideal. These days, I'd like to think that direct radiating speakers are better since signals fed into all channels are discrete and sound exactly the way they were meant to. But we all know it's still best to direct the speaker sound a bit above the listener's ear and not directly to so as to have that enveloping result. But that's just me. ;D
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sir bookshelf or floorstander yung i-audition mo? how much? 8 ohms din ba ang gale? kasi ang yamaha ata 6 ohms
thanks :D
hi sir! i tested the floorstanders of both brands!!! parehong ok except 8ohms yung sa gale, but nevertheless they haven't failed to satisfy my listening requirements which could possibly be different from others... ;)
honestly..... i really found the aesthetics of gale to be a notch higher.. :)
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Hi all!
I asked a store owner regarding these two speakers and she seemed to
favor on Crystal 10. I want to know your thoughts on these two speakers.
Regards
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Hi all!
I asked a store owner regarding these two speakers and she seemed to
favor on Crystal 10. I want to know your thoughts on these two speakers.
Regards
why not get the new diamonds? very reasonably priced too.
anyway, you can check out the reviews here by fellow members. i think i'll get the 8.1 :)
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I personally prefer direct firing speakers for my surrounds. My main reason is I've always thought of dipolar and bipolar speakers as speakers created for the prologic days when the surround signals were not discrete and a wider and indirect dispersion was more ideal. These days, I'd like to think that direct radiating speakers are better since signals fed into all channels are discrete and sound exactly the way they were meant to. But we all know it's still best to direct the speaker sound a bit above the listener's ear and not directly to so as to have that enveloping result. But that's just me. ;D
Have you tried listening to both? There are some great speakers that do not offer biploar speakers as surrounds, but since I read from the internet that bipoles give "better surround experience" I am becoming biased towards them. I'm still planning to audition both types, though, when I have the time. Thanks! :D
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Just chosen my speakers. I chose new Yamaha NS series. Piano finished case (super gloss black) with Monster cable interconnection inside. If you are into instrumental music, ganda nito. Piano CD's plays like somebody in the room is playing a grand piano beside you if you close your eyes. Yeah, yeah I have audio freak friends who recommended canadian speakers like paradigm, energy, etc. but speakers should be sturdy too. Paper-based cone speakers deteriorates in 5 years. The new materials in new speakers will last longer. To match I also powered my yamaha NS speakers with a Yamaha amps. Look into yamaha.co.jp website. ;D
I heard gale, my god what a waste of money if I may say so.
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check out the infinity primus speakers. it's the new line of infinity...very neutral sounding speakers, never harsh
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I am also looking for Gale speakers. A friend suggested me to test it. Can you please tell me where can I find this brand and to those who have already bought, the model you purchased, price and experience. Thanks!
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I am also looking for Gale speakers. A friend suggested me to test it. Can you please tell me where can I find this brand and to those who have already bought, the model you purchased, price and experience. Thanks!
you can find this at 5th ave. sm appliance (sm west, basement) also has a few. haven't heard them though.
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5th Ave. is currently having an exhibit at the ground floor of the Shangri-la plaza mall. There are gale HT speakers included in the exhibit. The store is at the 6th floor of the mall.
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I am also looking for Gale speakers. A friend suggested me to test it. Can you please tell me where can I find this brand and to those who have already bought, the model you purchased, price and experience. Thanks!
bro, i saw yesterday sa shangrila mall na meron display na gale speakers at 0% interest (i think citibank). try to visit 5th Ave at shangrila mall if they still have that offer.
enjoy,
:)
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bro, i saw yesterday sa shangrila mall na meron display na gale speakers at 0% interest (i think citibank). try to visit 5th Ave at shangrila mall if they still have that offer.
enjoy,
:)
are the mordaunt-shorts being offered w/ the 0% too? :)
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Just chosen my speakers. I chose new Yamaha NS series. Piano finished case (super gloss black) with Monster cable interconnection inside. If you are into instrumental music, ganda nito. Piano CD's plays like somebody in the room is playing a grand piano beside you if you close your eyes. Yeah, yeah I have audio freak friends who recommended canadian speakers like paradigm, energy, etc. but speakers should be sturdy too. Paper-based cone speakers deteriorates in 5 years. The new materials in new speakers will last longer. To match I also powered my yamaha NS speakers with a Yamaha amps. Look into yamaha.co.jp website. ;D
I heard gale, my god what a waste of money if I may say so.
sir bookshelf ba yung sa yo o floorstander? paki-indicate na din ang price at kung saang shop binili. i've heard NSP-555 and it was good.
TIA ;)
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bro bumblebee, i think all the products offered in their (5th Ave Shang) exhibit have a 0% interest. bili bili na ;D >:D ;D
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Friends,
Thanks a lot. I'll try to visit Shang.
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I have the Yamaha NS444 (center speaker), I have problems with the tweeter/highs... parang napupunit yung sound....
Its my plan to buy the NS555 as my fronts kaso nung nadiscouraged ako ng NS444, I chose MS 914 instead...
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Which brand would you choose?
I am buying a 7.1 system and can you please enlighten me ayaw ko na magkamali sa pag pili. .Btw, both are priced at 350k pesos with Triangle a bit higher at 375k
Thanks
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Which brand would you choose?
I am buying a 7.1 system and can you please enlighten me ayaw ko na magkamali sa pag pili. .Btw, both are priced at 350k pesos with Triangle a bit higher at 375k
Thanks
listen to both. you won't go wrong if you choose what's more pleasing to your ears. request for a home-audition tutal 350k naman yung papakawalan mo ;)
350k is a lot of money. baka kami naman ang magkamali sa advice kung nde mo magugustuhan ;D
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Interesting! Is that P375T set of 7.1 speakers for a 60T receiver? What about your sub-woofer?
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it's only 7.1. subwoofer is included. my receiver is a denon 3805 pero nabili ko na sya separately
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So the sub is included in the B&W set for P350T and the Triangle set for P375T? Since you're spending this much, I suggest you ask the AV shop to have them delivered to your home and audition them there, so you'd have a more exact feel of how they will sound with your gears and room accoustics.
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which is better for both music and home theater movies?
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which is better for both music and home theater movies?
These speakers both claimed good for movies as well as music. Since you have the budget, you can ask them to deliver them in your own listening/HT room. This is the only way to know whats best for you. You can invite friends for second opinion if you want.
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One rule I abide by in this hobby is : What's good for music is good for HT, not the reverse. So if a speaker or gear is musically competent, that's all I need to know, and it will be good in HT as well.
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Which brand would you choose?
... ayaw ko na magkamali sa pag pili. ..
Thanks
The greatest error that you can commit in your choice is not really to hear them in your listening/theater room - testing it with your choice materials and powering them at different levels which you use in your typical listening. ;)
Listening to it right at your place will test matching with your receiver, and the listening room interaction. :D :D Might not be a simple plug and play radio >:( >:( since you have to find optimal positioning of your sub and mains - I mean both of them (speaker models), side by side, and then A/B test them. Its more fun with close audio friends. 8) 8) :o :o
The amount (total or the difference) you have to pay for them does not matter at all :-[ nor guarantee that what you are getting at is the best one for your use >:D - since cost is not translated performance/quality in the audio world :P . But its you anyway who shortlisted the two - so I say good luck for the fun.
My . . . when can I ever have that money to throw away! ;D ;D
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Been looking to upgrade my speakers for a limited budget (P15K budget). My gear would be used for HT and Music (50-50). I'm looking for floorstanders and currently these are my choices:
1. Wharfedale 9.5 or 9.6 - (can strectch my budget a bit for the 9.6).
2. Aurum Cantus - Perhaps the F5508 but I like the look of the Harmony (just don't know the price)
I have auditioned the 9.5 and 9.6 and they are definitely better to my ears than my current US Audio speakers (floorstanders also). However, I heard thru this forum that the Aurum Cantus speakers are good also and affordable though I haven't auditioned them yet. My worry about the Aurum Cantus is that it's rated at 4 Ohms. Worried my Yamaha RXV440 might have a hard time powering them.
Anyone has experience on the Wharfedales and the Aurum Cantus? Which is better?
Any other speaker suggestion aside from the two above (as long as within budget)?
Thanks for your inputs.
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The Yamaha might have a hard time driving 4-ohm speakers at high volumes, unless your model has an impedance selector switch at the back.
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yeah av_phile the Yamaha has impedance selector at the back. So do you think it can drive the 4 Ohm Aurum Cantus if I decided to get them? I saw the specs and it shows although they are 4 Ohms efficient naman sya, I think 91dB ata efficiency nya.
What other speakers would you recommend for 15K? I'm willing to stretch this to 20K
Thanks
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both brands are good, yes, I agree with the others, try to audition them at home, because kahit gaano kaganda ng equipments mo, they wont be maximixed to the fullest if u dont have good acoustics, 2nd, try inquiring of its warranty, parts availability, good product distributorship,
but if I were to decide,....
I'd choose BOWERS AND WILKINS, and I'll pair it with ROTEL.....
;) ;) ;)
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i suggest taking your time comparing, but your budget should give you flexibility. in my case, i researched the net first and decided that the best value for money were internet- only brands. fortunately i had friends who travel to the us so i was able to complete my system over about 6 months. this is what i have: l/r - axiom m22ti, c - axiom vp150, surrounds - axiom m2i, sub - svs 25-31 pci+. if you don't have to spend on shipping and taxes, this system will blow any locally available set-up at its pricepoint, imho.
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You need to listen to the demo before you buy speakers. That's what I did. I listened to mine in movies and music mode, in different conditions as well (I move from one store to another). Why do you want a 7.1 setup? I bought my 6.1 setup 2 weeks ago and I could barely find anything that supports it.
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i suggest taking your time comparing, but your budget should give you flexibility. in my case, i researched the net first and decided that the best value for money were internet- only brands. fortunately i had friends who travel to the us so i was able to complete my system over about 6 months. this is what i have: l/r - axiom m22ti, c - axiom vp150, surrounds - axiom m2i, sub - svs 25-31 pci+. if you don't have to spend on shipping and taxes, this system will blow any locally available set-up at its pricepoint, imho.
Bro, inggit ako sa SVS mo ah. Did your friends able to bring the SVS here with no tax? I am targeting that subs myself eh! It can blow even the most expensive Velo - one time subw implementation lang ako that's why i dont want to buy any at this point in time unless it is the best in sonic and value.
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ahobbit, i had a friend order in the us and shipped to my front door via courier. it just cost me shipping. also, after a month i blew the driver when i plugged 1 port to make it go done to 20 hz. svs replaced without charge. of course, i posed as the buyer in the us and had it shipped there. i think svs will not sell outside the us/canada because they can't provide customer support and guarantee customer satisfaction, their main selling point.
value for money, i don't see how you can go wrong. although the new axiom subs seem interesting. cheers.
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Is it OK for you to invite me so I can listen to your SVS! ;D The EP350 is just right. Medyo OK nga for the price.
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i believe svs also caters to overseas customers... when i was in sing, locals bought their svs subs direct from the us (yeah, they didnt even blink at the shipping charges)... when one (or two?) of them blew their subs/s, they were extended the same high level of service that is given to us customers, the replacement parts were shipped to the owner with all associated costs borne by svs, imagine that. yung isa nga when he corresponded with svs with some questions and even suggestions, yung isang founder pa ang naka-exchange nya and even offerred tons of useful setup advice! talk about customer service!
kaya nag-grow yung followers ng svs dun eh, now meron na atang distributor
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How i really want to see even just the pics of this 375k speaker setup :o -- ;D
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How i really want to see even just the pics of this 375k speaker setup :o -- ;D
ako I want to see the pix of the 375T! ;D
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Is it OK for you to invite me so I can listen to your SVS! ;D The EP350 is just right. Medyo OK nga for the price.
why not? send me a pm and we can talk about it.
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get the 9.4s, spoke to guy at wharfdale, he told ne a review in usa, said they were best, i own 9.4s, think i agree.
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yeah av_phile the Yamaha has impedance selector at the back. So do you think it can drive the 4 Ohm Aurum Cantus if I decided to get them? I saw the specs and it shows although they are 4 Ohms efficient naman sya, I think 91dB ata efficiency nya.
What other speakers would you recommend for 15K? I'm willing to stretch this to 20K
Thanks
I dont think you'll have problem driving the Aurum Cantus speaker, its a very efficient speaker although 4 Ohms it has 90 dB sensitivity better that 8 ohms with 86 to 88 dB. Aurun Cantus also has stable impedance that only dip to 3.2 Ohms, again better than other brands that labeled 8 Ohms that dips to 2 Ohms >:D
FYI these speakers F6600 and F5508 can be driven by 6 watts tube amp - 8 Ohms tapping. ;)
If your going to asked which sounds better, I dont want to be biased. I'll just advise you to audition. :) or PM the Aurum cantus owners and asked for their opinion :D
Cheers
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For floorstanders try out Mordaunt Short 904 (12K) or 906 (18K). They would fit in your budget.
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I dont think you'll have problem driving the Aurum Cantus speaker, its a very efficient speaker although 4 Ohms it has 90 dB sensitivity better that 8 ohms with 86 to 88 dB. Aurun Cantus also has stable impedance that only dip to 3.2 Ohms, again better than other brands that labeled 8 Ohms that dips to 2 Ohms >:D
FYI these speakers F6600 and F5508 can be driven by 6 watts tube amp - 8 Ohms tapping. ;)
If your going to asked which sounds better, I dont want to be biased. I'll just advise you to audition. :) or PM the Aurum cantus owners and asked for their opinion :D
Cheers
Where can I audition the Aurum Cantus? Where's the store located?
Thanks
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For floorstanders try out Mordaunt Short 904 (12K) or 906 (18K). They would fit in your budget.
Yeah I've been looking to audition the MS904. WOuld you know which stores carry the 904? And which stores offer the 904 at 18K?
Thanks
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Yeah I've been looking to audition the MS904. WOuld you know which stores carry the 904? And which stores offer the 904 at 18K?
Thanks
OT:
5th Ave. The 904 costs 12k.
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5th Ave in Shangrila. Cash price for the 906 was 18+++K and 904 was 12+++K. Can't remember the exact price.
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bhongskie,
Try to pm Jetok about Yamaha 440 + 9.6 combo meron sya setup ganyan.. with 9CM ;D ;D ;D heard good result sa HT especially sa dialogue due to 9CM. :) :) :)
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Thanks bumblebee and shotgun, will try to audition the MS906 at 5th ave.
btw, a lot of people in the forum have the impression that the MS line is "bright" and a lot also agree that yamaha is a "bright" receiver. do you think this would be a good combo?
Hans,
thanks, I'll try to pm jetok and ask what he thinks of the yammy-wharfedale combo.
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I've only head the MS with Marantz, which they say is warm. Might be good to audition it with Yamahas. Good luck! ;)
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Thanks bumblebee and shotgun, will try to audition the MS906 at 5th ave.
btw, a lot of people in the forum have the impression that the MS line is "bright" and a lot also agree that yamaha is a "bright" receiver. do you think this would be a good combo?
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It's for you to decide, really. If the combo sounds good for you, then get the combo. Also, listen to the MS914 (2-way floorstander w/ 6.5" woofer). I liked it better than the MS906 both in sound and looks (the Avant version doesn't have the rounded edges :().
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What's the size of the woofers of the 906?
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What's the size of the woofers of the 906?
Model Avant 906
Frequency response (Hz) 45-22k
Sensitivity (dB) 90
Impedance (nominal) (Ohms) 4-8
Power rating (Watts RMS) 15-150
Drivers* (2) 130mm aluminium CPC mid/bass (1) 25mm aluminium dome tweeter
X-Over type 2.5way 2nd order LF, 1st order MF and HF with DVP
Dimensions (hxwxd) (mm) 850x165x295 (inches) 33.5x6.5x11.6
Weight (kg) 12 (lbs) 26.4
Magnetic shielding Yes
Finish Honey Maple, Black
(http://www.mordaunt-short.co.uk/pix/avant906_190.jpg)
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Thanks again bumblebee
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Where can I audition the Aurum Cantus? Where's the store located?
Thanks
You can audition at 2/F Madison Square bldg., Libis, QC.
Infront of shopwise besides HSBC
Tel. 395-9115 or 0918-9068718
F6600 is the only model available, other models are out of stock. :( >:D 8)
My advise to you is audition, audition, audition. Don't believe or rely on tittle-tattle, trust your ears its your money your spending. ;D ;D ;D
Cheers
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Where can I audition the Aurum Cantus? Where's the store located?
Thanks
Try to contact cyber machine, authorized dealer sila ng Aurum Cantus ;)
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Hi,
I am looking for bookshelf speakers for my bedroom which is 10 feet by 10 feet.
I don't prefer bright speakers. I have marantz amplifier PM 80 (100 watts).
I have short listed 3 speakers. Usher S520 or Monitor Audio Bronze 2 or AE Evo 1.
If sound quality is the only criteria, how many stars (out of a maximum 10 ) would you give to each of these 3 speakers?
thanks in advance
cbs
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can you guys help me choose between these speakers? thanks.
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can you guys help me choose between these speakers? thanks.
You mean Wharfedale 9.6? If so, hindi kaya masyadong mababa ang presyo nito compared to the first 2? ???
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sorry i meant 9.6. mistype. mababa nga yung peso price ng 9.6. pero more or less malapitlapit dollar prices nila. or should i really not consider the 9.6? i just included it because i think its a great bargain and i do not want to spend more money on possibly very small differences. But i am not saying that i am not willing to spend for the x-719 or kestrel 1, i just want to have feedback from experienced listeners. I know that we might be hearing differently but i want to have opinions nonetheless. Because i find it difficult to compare speakers when i go from shop to shop. Tapos iba iba pa yung listening room.
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theshade
what amp do you plan to mate w/ the speakers? pure audio or HT/audio use? budget? room size? choice of music? those factors will greatly influence your decision in choosing among the three brands.
had the chance to hear both the 9.6 and the X719. If cost is no concern, you have the right amp, your room is on the small to medium size and if you plan on using the speakers strictly for audio then choose the X-719. between the two speakers the X-719 will simply stand out specially in coherence, prat and bass definition. out of the box..it simply sounds right from the very first time you fire it up. If for double duty (HT/audio), big bad bass is needed and budget is a concern then it might be a good idea to build your system around the Wharfedales
have not yet auditioned the Meadowlarks yet so I dont have an idea of what are its strong/weak points.
my.02 cents. Happy hunting.
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totally agree with synchro...but again, this depends on your ears...so you have to audition...a good number of our members here are enjoying their wharfedale 9.6, however hey have a bigger room vs. the others so the 9.6 is a great catch for them...for smaller rooms, i would recommend a bookshelf pair...the Usher x-719 would be a good choice...have personally heard these speakers, and yes, cohenrence, PRAT and bass definition are its strengths...for more info on the wharfedales, you may want to ask our fellow members jetok, hans adriane...for the ushers, try mighty mike and levi...by the way if you decide to get the 9.6, do let me know, might be able to get one for you at a good price...just text me 0917-8004868...many thanks and good luck! :D
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Synchro
Sorry, I should have placed this info along with my previous post. I have an HK130 that I plan to use with the speakers. It would be used for 80/20 in favor of music. My choice of music is varied from jazz to folk rock to metal. But personally I do not think that audio/ht use and musical preference would be a factor. I am leaning towards the camp into hearing what is recorded be it a good or bad recording so I would like to have accurate speakers that could go loud without strain and with good bass extension as well as definition cause sometimes I crank it up when I listen to metal. This means that the speakers I would like to have are those that are most free from colorations. Aside from that I want a speaker that could image well. So my criteria probably would be accurate, images well, can play loud without strain, good bass extension and definition. I also think that this type of speaker would be appropriate both for home theater and audio if my goal is to hear what is recorded be it an audio or home theatre soundtrack.
Sana makahanap ng ganung speaker na within my budget. Budget is about 30 to 50k but it could be used up purely for two channels or for a complete 5.1 system depending on what speakers I choose. Room size, I know its very important pero mahirap idescribe room ko dahil irregular yung shape and placement ng speakers so I don’t know kung nakakaapekto bay un sa room dimensions. Ill post specifics later.
Thank you for the feedback. I just have a question cause as someone inexperienced I don’t know what you mean by prat. Thanks a lot.
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Superman, thanks for the feedback and the names. Ill text you if ever I decide on the wharfedales.
Tanong lang sa comment mo sa 9.6 tungkol sa rooms, could you elaborate. Thanks a lot.
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Synchro
Sorry, I should have placed this info along with my previous post. I have an HK130 that I plan to use with the speakers. It would be used for 80/20 in favor of music. My choice of music is varied from jazz to folk rock to metal. But personally I do not think that audio/ht use and musical preference would be a factor. I am leaning towards the camp into hearing what is recorded be it a good or bad recording so I would like to have accurate speakers that could go loud without strain and with good bass extension as well as definition cause sometimes I crank it up when I listen to metal. This means that the speakers I would like to have are those that are most free from colorations. Aside from that I want a speaker that could image well. So my criteria probably would be accurate, images well, can play loud without strain, good bass extension and definition. I also think that this type of speaker would be appropriate both for home theater and audio if my goal is to hear what is recorded be it an audio or home theatre soundtrack.
Sana makahanap ng ganung speaker na within my budget. Budget is about 30 to 50k but it could be used up purely for two channels or for a complete 5.1 system depending on what speakers I choose. Room size, I know its very important pero mahirap idescribe room ko dahil irregular yung shape and placement ng speakers so I don’t know kung nakakaapekto bay un sa room dimensions. Ill post specifics later.
Thank you for the feedback. I just have a question cause as someone inexperienced I don’t know what you mean by prat. Thanks a lot.
Try to pm Jetok about 9.6 mabait na mama yan.. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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theshade
*PRAT - Pace, Rythm And Timing.
what is the size/dimensions of your room (HxWxL)??
If you plan on setting up a complete 5.1 system with a budget of Php50T then you have limited choices...entry level models from Aurum, Dali, Mission, B&W, Monitor aside from the aforementioned Wharfes and Usher are the ones that are "in" right now and will probably fit in your 50K budget. do try to audition the speaker sets from different stores and hear how each brand sounds like. bring CD's that are familiar to you and take notes bro...If I were you i'll bring the Harman Kardon AVR too so that you will have a pretty good idea of how each set will sound like when you mate it with your AVR. Im sure the staff of those stores can accomodate a simple request.
word of warning though..with the aforementioned set of criterias that you have in mind..shoehorning entry level 5.1 speakers to your budget of 50K will get you a set of good price/performance speakers but IMHO are not the ones that will get you off the merry-go-round cycle of speaker upgrades.
Now the playing field is totally different if you allocate the Php50T for a pair of speakers alone....if your priority is 80/20 in favor of music then this is the route I will take if I were you.
if coherence, PRAT, imaging, accuracy, definition, neutrality etc is what you are looking for then the main front L & R stereo speakers is of prime importance. I'll blow away the entire budget for a superb stereo pair and in time I'll just get run of the mill center/surround/subs for that once a week DVD trip. Your budget can now get you mid end speakers from Dali, Monitor, Usher, Triangle and entry level Dynaudio's and Von Schweikerts.
take your time in auditioning...we all know na medyo mahal ang gas/diesel these days and time consuming ang auditioning but its a must if we are to get speakers that we intend to live with for the next couple of years...not for the next few months only.
my .02 cents.....others may have diffrent opinions as well.
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I just sold my X719 because of an amp issue ( my amp is only 8watts ) but given enough power this speaker would really sing. Another good thing is the bass of the speaker. I dont think you could find a bookshelf speaker at this price range that could match the power and quality of the bass plus it has a very good midrange. Lastly when it comes to looks the X719 has it.
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theshade,
If you're more into audio, I suggest getting an integrated amp or a pre/power combo. I don't think any mid-level av receiver can beat a dedicated 2-channel amp. Do your speakers justice.
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theshade
*PRAT - Pace, Rythm And Timing.
what is the size/dimensions of your room (HxWxL)??
If you plan on setting up a complete 5.1 system with a budget of Php50T then you have limited choices...entry level models from Aurum, Dali, Mission, B&W, Monitor aside from the aforementioned Wharfes and Usher are the ones that are "in" right now and will probably fit in your 50K budget. do try to audition the speaker sets from different stores and hear how each brand sounds like. bring CD's that are familiar to you and take notes bro...If I were you i'll bring the Harman Kardon AVR too so that you will have a pretty good idea of how each set will sound like when you mate it with your AVR. Im sure the staff of those stores can accomodate a simple request.
word of warning though..with the aforementioned set of criterias that you have in mind..shoehorning entry level 5.1 speakers to your budget of 50K will get you a set of good price/performance speakers but IMHO are not the ones that will get you off the merry-go-round cycle of speaker upgrades.
Now the playing field is totally different if you allocate the Php50T for a pair of speakers alone....if your priority is 80/20 in favor of music then this is the route I will take if I were you.
if coherence, PRAT, imaging, accuracy, definition, neutrality etc is what you are looking for then the main front L & R stereo speakers is of prime importance. I'll blow away the entire budget for a superb stereo pair and in time I'll just get run of the mill center/surround/subs for that once a week DVD trip. Your budget can now get you mid end speakers from Dali, Monitor, Usher, Triangle and entry level Dynaudio's and Von Schweikerts.
take your time in auditioning...we all know na medyo mahal ang gas/diesel these days and time consuming ang auditioning but its a must if we are to get speakers that we intend to live with for the next couple of years...not for the next few months only.
my .02 cents.....others may have diffrent opinions as well.
Totally agree that your front speakers are one of the important part of your setup so better audition as much as you can before you buy. ;D ;D
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Synchro
...would be accurate, images well, can play loud without strain, good bass extension and definition. I also think that this type of speaker would be appropriate both for home theater and audio if my goal is to hear what is recorded be it an audio or home theatre soundtrack.
...for a complete 5.1 system depending on what speakers I choose. Room size, I know its very important pero mahirap idescribe room ko dahil irregular yung shape and placement ng speakers so I don’t know kung nakakaapekto bay un sa room dimensions. Ill post specifics later.
Thank you for the feedback. I just have a question cause as someone inexperienced I don’t know what you mean by prat. Thanks a lot.
Its like you are describing the (diamonds) 9.6 here!
Irregular room? perfect - probably more placement flexibilities!
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For speaker comparison should be on the same level, floor stander is only for floorstander, bookshelf VS bookshelf. First Bookshelf sounds different based on the height of the stand, more lower extra bass but sacrificing the soundstage.
Second: Frequency range of floorstander & bookshelf have slight difference on the lower frequency band.
Third: Booth floorstander & bookshelf speakers have it's own advantages as well as disadvantages i mean weaknesses.
Generally if your looking for the best speakers for you AUDITION! AUDITION! AUDITION! look for the speakers that can match your system and follow your preference or else you will end-up to "Asstd. Buy & Sell" thread hehehe (kidding)
I want to set an example OT: X-719 (BS) has more dynamic than Dali IKON-6(FS) more punch on the X but if your preference is the voice (midbass) IKON-6 really sings! (This is just my observation)
Shape/size/condition of the room affects the Soundstage & Imaging of sound reproductions but the real characteristic of speakers are already fixed. (Freq. range, Dynamic range, tonal balance, resolution, articulation, accuracy more to mention).
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ideally you should audition the speakers in your location. too bad very few dealers, if at all, will lend you the speakers for this purpose.
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which is better between the b&w dm303 (bookshelf) with lcr 3 (center) or the mordaunt-short ms 905 (center) with the ms 904 (floor standing)? im considering the two for use with either a harman-kardon 235 or a marantz 4500
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Personal taste varies from one listener to another. I suggest you audition
both speakers by bringing a test CD with you, preferably a simple
acoustic guitar music with clear vocals. (Suggestion: Almost Kinda Acoustic CD.
Tracks #1 and #2 - "I'll Be" and "Unwell").
Close your eyes and see which of the two speakers reproduce sound which
is closer to a 'live performance' or a 'live person' singing with a guitar, in front of you.
A good speaker should have the guitar sounding like a real, live acoustic guitar
and the male vocals, like a real male singer singing in front of you.
In this regard, I prefer B&W (600, 700 and 800 series) over any other speaker
brands I've auditioned. I've auditioned many speakers from mid-fi:
Kenwood, Pioneer, Sony, Bose, Panasonic, etc., to the most expensive
speaker lines of B&W (800 series), Dynaudio and Revel.
I haven't auditioned the specific Mordaunt-short model you are talking about and
neither have I auditioned the entry level B&W 303 you mentioned so I can't
say for sure which is better. If you had mentioned a higher model B&W speaker
however, (600 series and up), I would strongly recommend it over any
model of Mordaunt-short speakers.
In summary, there's no subsitute for listening for yourself. Go ahead, bring
the test CD with you and listen for at least 10 - 15 minutes per speaker.
Remember to always close your eyes and evaluate the speaker's merits
based on which of the two speakers sound closer to a live performer
playing a guitar in front of you.
Good luck.
- Kevlar
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which is better between the b&w dm303 (bookshelf) with lcr 3 (center) or the mordaunt-short ms 905 (center) with the ms 904 (floor standing)? im considering the two for use with either a harman-kardon 235 or a marantz 4500
I totally agree with Kevlar... We cannot decide for you, only your ears can... It is said that "Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder", well in our case it's "in the ears of the beholder" ;D
Audition both, bring with you CDs/DVDs that you can use as reference in deciding, and most of all enjoy the hunt... ;)
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which do you prefer? aurum cantus or sonus faber?
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what specific model are you trying to compare/audition? have you done any actual audition? audition is the key...thanks! just my 2-cents...
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Sonus faber.
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aurumcantus ;D ;D
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anyone here auditioned Focal JMLab Chorus 714s? i know its audition, audition, audition but i would also like feedback from others who have listened to it. I searched the net for reviews and there's only a few but they seem to like these speakers.
I posted in another thread about comparing B&W 603/4, Mission M53 and JMLab. Can't decide which one. I'm of the impression B&W might be a better performer in HT and JMLab in music. Mission might be somewhere in the middle? Any opinions?
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Greetings!
Before I could share a piece of my aural experience last Saturday, let me extend my sincerest gratitude to the host AKYATBUNDOK aka Roger for accommodating us in his condo. Moreover, to the other audiophiles I’ve met for the first time and accepted me in their circles as if I’ve been with them since day one. Jetok ( 9.6 cool dude ), Hans ( PR man for the Dali’s ), S2Kov, Rony ( LP guru ), Atty, Punk Kid, Wanderlust, Kimpao, Iceman, Jojo ( DIY amp master ), Matzer (for providing the Missions) :D ( Sorry if im a little bit rusty but there were others but my memory fails me..you know who you are, though ). And to Supes, who broke the ice to make this shootout push-through. ( we left the windows open despite the downpour, just in case you’d swoop down a while ) ;)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/session1/P1040583.jpg)
The following are personal views and not in anyway a consensus of the majority. It is my purpose to hunt down a speaker to replace my present HT setup. This would serve a dual purpose for Audio and Video in the future if I integrate both for practical space saving reasons. Let me run you through the music rather than the hardware for comparative purposes:
Jacintha’s Moon River (Autumn Leaves – Groove Note LP)
Wharf 9.6: Commanding presence in height (not the speaker). Its disappearing act is really amazing considering its size. Jacintha’s vocals - palpable and sound staging – wide. Being an owner of a metal dome speaker I kinda miss a bit of the highs not to the point of sibilance though. But the mids were really engaging in this track.
Dali C-6: Being the midget here, I couldn’t believe the depth & sound staging prowess of this floorstander. Highs were very sweet and extended but not sibilant compared to my present monitor. It would not be surprising to note that this would sound a bit sibilant if compared next to the 9.6. Purity in the midrange was evident.
Missions were still on its way.
Dave Brubeck’s Take Five ( Time Out - Columbia 6eye reissue )
Wharf 9.6: Biggest soundstage. Lowest bass notes were heard and felt! Thumps of the drums were very realistic giving the listener a feeling to stomp along as you listened. My only reservation was the perception of a midrange honk while the sax was being played. This might be due to the midrange driver which I was not used to or it being more sensitive than the other speaker.
Dali C-6: This track was quite revealing when played here. The bass was not as deep as the 9.6, but it was tight and musical. The timbre and focus of the piano was accurate and spot on. But the true gem in this track was the drum solo. As one might put it…”Variations in hits of the drums were very clearly appreciated, almost seen!” I really enjoyed this track!
Missions: This speaker came a little late so I wasn’t able to clearly note its difference from the others.
Laurindo Almeida’s Feels So Good ( New Directions – Crystal Clear Records )
Wharf 9.6: Guitars were warm and transparent. Again, The bass was went deep but defined, never muddy nor boomy. Drum solo was similar to the previous track.
Dali C-6: Guitar’s plucks and fretwork slides were heard clearly. Among the three this excelled much on detail retrieval! Like the former track, the drum solo here was breathtaking! Visceral Impact, Rhythm and Pace of the thumps wanted me to get up and do a drum-act myself.
Mission M34: Hooked up and warmed up, it performed in a very balanced manner but had a certain muddiness which was remedied by the placement of the foam bung. It was never tiring but very engaging.
Linda Ronstadt’s What’s New – ( What’s New – Asylum Records )
Wharf 9.6: Here is the track that fits this speaker to a T! Owning personally 3 formats of this album ( no mo-fi pressing though ), I can conclude that this track is a test for sibilance. Almost all speakers that I’ve heard this one exhibited the characteristic shrill of Linda’s voice. But the 9.6 tamed this track giving it a very relaxing live performance. If you’re a Ronstadt fan, this speaker is for you!
Dali C-6 & Mission M34: Both speakers performed on an equal scale of vocal presence. Soundstage remained wide but a noticeable accurate focus of Linda was appreciated some would term as Air around the singer. After hearing the relaxing 9.6, as I said before, one might find these two on the brighter side. But this is purely subjective.
Aesthetics, Built and Make:
Wharf 9.6: Looming Giant. Fabulous Kevlar drivers. Elegant cherry vinyl laminate finish. Biwirable gold plated terminals. Spikes included. A unique blend of a soft dome tweeter, midrange driver, mid bass & woofer drivers and a rear firing port for the price. Better placed at least 2 feet away from corners.
Dali C-6: Best looking speaker with or without the grills. Two Tone: Grey and Cherry vinyl laminate finish but would be mistaken for a wood veneer one! Combination of a soft dome tweeter, and two woofers made up of a paper wood pulp mixture. The only front ported one among the three. One set of gold plated speaker terminals. Spikes included.
Mission M34: Black ash laminate finish with a touch of silver linings along the drivers which is composed of a soft dome tweeter and two woofers. Rear firing port with spikes & foam bung included? ( Matt, can you confirm this? )Biwirable!
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esi :
can u suggest more piano oriented songs ?? parang Jacintha - Moon River ?? Ganda kc e ;D
gosh, im 17 yrs old.. and i listen to death metal (dimmu borgir, Nile, In flames etc..) and I happen to like this ;D
Miski Euros 6 lang speakers ko sobrang satisfied ako :) :)
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esi :
can u suggest more piano oriented songs ?? parang Jacintha - Moon River ?? Ganda kc e ;D
gosh, im 17 yrs old.. and i listen to death metal (dimmu borgir, Nile, In flames etc..) and I happen to like this ;D
Miski Euros 6 lang speakers ko sobrang satisfied ako :) :)
Listen to Corrine May and emi Fujita for starters. Btw, I can't seem to make out what your speakers are? Can you tell me more about it or better yet post it. Cheers!
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euros 6 are speakers made by dai-1chi
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esi,
spot on review. :)
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great review, doc! :D pwede ka na mag-sideline as reviewer sa hi-fi choice, stereophile and what hi-fi, hehehe! :D :D
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Thanks esi for that comprehensive and unbiased review :)
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jet, Supes, & jairus,
It was my pleasure to write that review. I made it in exactly that manner. This is quite a break from my routine of work. What a breather! ;D Cheers & happy listening!
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Great review Boss Esi!
How about AURUM CANTUS vs DALI? :o
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Great review Boss Esi!
How about AURUM CANTUS vs DALI? :o
Hey not a bad idea. Any comments to keep the ball rolling again. Hey hans, PR man, sey mo? ;D
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If you plan to have another shootout for DALI and Aurum Cantus, we might include master rony's 2a3 amp! ;D What do you think master rony?
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what models from aurum cantus and dali will be pitted against each other ?
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Teka di ako bibili. :o :o Pero kaya kaya ng 3 watter yan. ??? ???
Parang ang luwag kasi tumunog sa 10 watter ni chief akyat. 8) 8) Parang me pag asa.
Magandang upgrade path yan Andy. Sige test natin sa 3 watter. :)
Teka bakit yun amp ko di yun sayo eh ikaw naman ang nag hahanap ng speakers. ;D ;D
Tahimik na yun setup ko huwag mo na guluhin. :-[ :-[ :-[
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Hey not a bad idea. Any comments to keep the ball rolling again. Hey hans, PR man, sey mo? ;D
Doc,
Will try to coordinate with audio amplified again last time suppose to audition the F series di lang natuloy pero possible yan.. ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
Aurum cantus vs DALI ?? hhmmm ::) ::) ::) ::)
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May potential kayanin yung amp at naka Tango OPT at RCA 2A3 na kasi yung syo! ;D ;D ;D Kpag kinaya naman yan alam ko'ng mag-iisip ka eh! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Teka di ako bibili. :o :o Pero kaya kaya ng 3 watter yan. ??? ???
Parang ang luwag kasi tumunog sa 10 watter ni chief akyat. 8) 8) Parang me pag asa.
Magandang upgrade path yan Andy. Sige test natin sa 3 watter. :)
Teka bakit yun amp ko di yun sayo eh ikaw naman ang nag hahanap ng speakers. ;D ;D
Tahimik na yun setup ko huwag mo na guluhin. :-[ :-[ :-[
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May potential kayanin yung amp at naka Tango OPT at RCA 2A3 na kasi yung syo! ;D ;D ;D Kpag kinaya naman yan alam ko'ng mag-iisip ka eh! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
ayaw pumayag ni rony kasi floorstanders na naman ang shootout... subukan nyo bookshelf naman, papayag yan pagamit amp nya ;D
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Nakuha ko na yun magandang combination sa hardware kaya tigil na ko sa upgrade diyan. ::) ::) ::)
Nasa software na lang binibili ko gaya ng CD, DVD, LP ;)
Pero kung gusto mo talaga mapa kinggan sa SET sige dalhin ko pero sure ako ikaw ang mapapabili. :-[ :-[
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schedule na natin yan! ;D
Nakuha ko na yun magandang combination sa hardware kaya tigil na ko sa upgrade diyan. ::) ::) ::)
Nasa software na lang binibili ko gaya ng CD, DVD, LP ;)
Pero kung gusto mo talaga mapa kinggan sa SET sige dalhin ko pero sure ako ikaw ang mapapabili. :-[ :-[
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ayaw pumayag ni rony kasi floorstanders na naman ang shootout... subukan nyo bookshelf naman, papayag yan pagamit amp nya ;D
Yan naman next schedule ng session di ba bookshelf. ;D ;D ;D
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To those who want an A & B comparison of the DALI CONCEPT 6 and the WHARFDALE 9.6...Architectural Audio has both for demo purposes. Take your pick! ;)
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To those who want an A & B comparison of the DALI CONCEPT 6 and the WHARFDALE 9.6...Architectural Audio has both for demo purposes. Take your pick! ;)
AA carries Wharfedale's na rin?
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To those who want an A & B comparison of the DALI CONCEPT 6 and the WHARFDALE 9.6...Architectural Audio has both for demo purposes. Take your pick! ;)
AA carries Wharfedale's na rin?
Architectural Audio has both for demo purposes....sir might be for demo only
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To those who want an A & B comparison of the DALI CONCEPT 6 and the WHARFDALE 9.6...Architectural Audio has both for demo purposes. Take your pick! ;)
Doc,
Update nabili mo na ba? ;D ;D
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Anybody heard this speaker from Aurum? How does it compare with the Wharfs and the Dali? The price is very tempting for a floorstander :)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v487/audioamp/F5508a.jpg)
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Anybody heard this speaker from Aurum? How does it compare with the Wharfs and the Dali? The price is very tempting for a floorstander :)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v487/audioamp/F5508a.jpg)
Sayang di nasama yan..
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sir hans,
what model ang katapat ng dali ikon6 sa aurum cantus?
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sir hans,
what model ang katapat ng dali ikon6 sa aurum cantus?
sir jetok,
si audio amplied na bahala pero basta ribbon tweeter must audition for me.. :) :) :)
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sir jetok,
si audio amplied na bahala pero basta ribbon tweeter must audition for me.. :) :) :)
ot lang sir hans.
yung speakers ni wanderlust na otto naka-ribbon tweeters for sale sa buynsell thread. :D ganda ba yun?
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ot lang sir hans.
yung speakers ni wanderlust na otto naka-ribbon tweeters for sale sa buynsell thread. :D ganda ba yun?
try to believe. ;)
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try to believe. ;)
were you able to listen to the otto ribbon? how are they compared to the ribbon of ikon6? (in terms of sound syempre.)
thanks.
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were you able to listen to the otto ribbon? how are they compared to the ribbon of ikon6? (in terms of sound syempre.)
thanks.
Hirap compared sila since bookshelf ang Otto while Ikon 6 naman is floorstander.
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Ask and you shall receive.... di kayo nag hiram e ;D
The Aurum Cantus F-5508 is more than happy to join any home audition.
Peace!
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Hala... nag offer na si Noel. Away magpatalo. ;D ;) :D
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Ask and you shall receive.... di kayo nag hiram e ;D
The Aurum Cantus F-5508 is more than happy to join any home audition.
Peace!
Sir Noel, sayang muntik na eh di lang natuloy nun na sched natin..
will text you soon sir. :)
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We'll just resched sir hans ;D ;D ;D
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Break-in to death ka na ngayon para di ma pahiya ;D
Biro lang...
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Guys need your inputs/advise here.
Naguguluhan kasi ako on which speakers to buy.
Im planning to build my HT and the 2 speaker series are what I have in mind.
Which is a better choice the Dali Concept series or the AE Aegis series?
Whats the pros and cons between the two?
I already audition both of them and I like them both.
I would need your inputs guys so I could decide between the two.
I'll be using it 50/50 music and movies paired with an HK 235.
Which is better equipt in terms of power?
Which would give you more listening pleasure even after 10 hours of movies/music?
Thanks a lot.
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the 2 speaker brands you mentioned are on the opposite side of the sound spectrum. one on the warm side and one on the bright side. FOR ME, warm speakers will give you longer hours of continuous listening pleasure........even after 10 hours of movies/music. :D
just my 2 cents. :)
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i'd go for ae evo1 or 3 anytime it's good for audio also while the concept series of the dali's are not so good sounding if you want good sounding series of dali go for the helicon 300
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here is a comparison from what hifi? mag for your reference..
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y7/jet1225/review_46_280_2.jpg)
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Well if you have listened to both then only you can tell which one is more appropriate for your own taste and preferences. Let your ears be the judge. They don't sound alike so you must prefer one over the other even by the slimmest of margins. I believe you can AB them at AA while being driven by HK receiver ...
I prefer the Dali Concept 6 because it sounds big, dynamic, lively and vibrant - and is capable of midrange nuances and timing not usually heard on HT speakers. The midband is remarkably natural sounding for the price too probably because of the wood pulp cone - and this is something not heard from most speakers with fancy synthetic cones in the same price range. The AE sounds more like your typical high end HT speaker - still nice of course especially in terms of tonal balance and you can always boast to your friends that it got a nice What Hifi review but it does sound a bit too restrained and timid resulting to tepid musical reproduction that is less holistic and less engaging in my opinion. A friend even commented that he might fall asleep while watching movie on the Evo3 ... ;D
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I already audition both of them and I like them both.
I would need your inputs guys so I could decide between the two.
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You like them both? Get the cheaper ones.
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both are in the same price range
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Bro,
Both are good speakers its just a matter of taste and preference to which is better to your ears. :) and also if it matches your other gears. ;D
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it will now depend...on your preference...and of course the associated gears, plus your room's condition...i agree with hyperion and hans adriane...however, if i were to recommend (this is me, walang kokontra! :D :D :D)...i'd still definitely recommend the Dali Concept 6 over the AE hands down...thanks! :)
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HT? Wharfedale diamond 8.4! (with HK AVR) ;D kahit kumalabog, sumabog, barilan, etc at itodo volume... walang kakaba kaba, matibay na speakers - mura pa! ;D
Audio? Your mileage may vary :)
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HT? Wharfedale diamond 8.4! (with HK AVR) ;D kahit kumalabog, sumabog, barilan, etc at itodo volume... walang kakaba kaba, matibay na speakers - mura pa! ;D
Audio? Your mileage may vary :)
Sama mo na Wharf Diamond 9 series..
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(http://www.andbenelux.com/images/products/large/Concept6_paar.jpg) (http://www.thebaj.com/images/infocus/dali_logo.gif)
Some reviews about the Dali Concept 6:
What Hi-fi (UK) wrote; "...offers a large, well-defined soundstage with excellent effects location and plenty of breathing space."
"Good effects placement; convincing soundstage; agile bass presentation"
"It produces a sound of considerable authority."
Lyd & Bild (Sound & Vision) Magazine (Norway) wrote; "The soundstage is tight with surprising resolution, instead of a huge and slow bass, it has a richness of details and plenty of treble."
"Concept 6 has qualities we do not normally connect with floorstanding speakers in this price class."
...but again, better audtion...thanks! ;D
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Newbiedin,
went to the same confusing course when i was hunting for a pair of floorstanders late last year... like you, i narrowed down my choices to these two speakers.... but in my case, i will use the speakers for a tube set-up then and not for HT as i am very much pleased with my all Mission M70 series set with the Onkyo 601.... you did not mentioned on your post if the tests that you underwent to AB these speakers used a single wire for each brand because the Dali Concept 6 is not biwirable while the AE Evo 3 is; secondly, were the two brands fully broken-in when you tested; was the room treated or in a basic concrete, wood and what have you condition? This is vital because these are the three important considerations when i decided which to buy.
Admittedly, the Concept 6 will really astound everyone even at out of the box testing as it is very dynamic, lively the HIs bloom, the bass rocks for me and the looks' a killer. But the upgrade path is limited, not biwirable and sand-fillable.
The AE Evo 3 is factory sand-filled (you can even add some more to yuor heart's content) and when biwired will bring you to a different level, totally different when wired singly, as if a different speaker is singing. Furthermore, out of the box, the AE Evo 3 will not leave any impressive performance to buyers as it sounded like what the others say Nakakantok pakinggan, but wait till you hear it when fully broken in. I don't know if how many of us here have already listened to a thousand times to the AE Evo 3 playing RUSH's Tom Sawyer, Red Barchetta, 2112, La Villa Strangiato and ACDC's Highway to Hell, Back in Black, For those who want to Rock We Salute you, or Led Zeppelin's Ten Year's Gone, The Song Remains the Same with justice. I personally disagree that the Evo 3 is nakakaantok if you are really familiar with the songs above. Hindi duduguin ang tenga mo with the Evo 3 if you play rock music to the max all day.
This is me.
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nice comments, new age! this only means one thing...audition audition PLUS personal preference talaga pa rin after all...very detailed review, pare! galing!
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newbiedin,
if you think dali concept 6 is for you........meron 2 pairs sa buy and sell section that you can get at a very friendly price. if i'm not mistaken the other pair is already reserved(baka ikaw na yung nagpa reserve). :).
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newbiedin,
if you think dali concept 6 is for you........meron 2 pairs sa buy and sell section that you can get at a very friendly price. if i'm not mistaken the other pair is already reserved(baka ikaw na yung nagpa reserve). :).
pards, salamat sa endorsement! :)
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Thanks to all your input guys.
Am really having a hard time to decide which is which.
Dali is better looking than AE but is not bi-wireable.
For AE you can bi-wire it.
From all the comments I read only AE has a real negative feedback nakakaantok pakinggan.
But review shows that AE is better than Dali
Hirap mamili, if only I have more money to spend on a higher Dali model...
Better go back and audition some more.
Thanks for all your feedback guys.
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(http://www.andbenelux.com/images/products/large/Concept6_paar.jpg) (http://www.thebaj.com/images/infocus/dali_logo.gif)
Some reviews about the Dali Concept 6:
Lyd & Bild (Sound & Vision) Magazine (Norway) wrote; "The soundstage is tight with surprising resolution, instead of a huge and slow bass, it has a richness of details and plenty of treble."
Not having auditioned Dali speakers but having read
many remarks about Dali being 'detailed' and having
'plenty of treble' gives me the impression Dali speakers
are really 'bright' sounding.
For those who have auditioned Dali speakers...
Are they really 'bright' sounding (in the negative sense
of the word)?
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For those who have auditioned Dali speakers...
Are they really 'bright' sounding (in the negative sense
of the word)?
Not as "bright" as those w/ metal tweets.
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Thanks to all your input guys.
Am really having a hard time to decide which is which.
Dali is better looking than AE but is not bi-wireable.
For AE you can bi-wire it.
From all the comments I read only AE has a real negative feedback nakakaantok pakinggan.
But review shows that AE is better than Dali
Hirap mamili, if only I have more money to spend on a higher Dali model...
Better go back and audition some more.
Thanks for all your feedback guys.
there is one option left...go to my pad today if you are free, in mandaluyong, my number is 0919-680-50-20, di ako pumasok sa office today...and find out for yourself if AE is really nakakaantok as claimed by others whom i hope are real users of AE ...the good thing about it, i go for progressive rock music and that is really fast sounding type of music. AE is typically garbage in, garbage out .... no coloration. if you play Stacey Kent East of the Sun, Salena Jones You Don't Bring Me Flowers, Jane Monheit In the Still of the Night... aantokin ka talaga. ;D
A guitar like Fender Statocaster will not sound like a Telecaster... a Gibson Les Paul will not sound like a Lumanog!
Bring your fastest sounding cds.
This is me.
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Not as "bright" as those w/ metal tweets.
So B&W 600 series speakers with aluminum dome tweets
sound 'brighter'? I thought many find the 600 series
'warm' sounding.
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Dali Concepts use fabric domes. All else being equal, I don't think they can be "brighter" than those w/ metal tweets.
And for me, the AE's are not nakakaantok. And Dali's are not too bright. Hindi ka naman masisiraan ng bait if you'll pick one over the other.
PS
Those DM 600 S3's are lovely speakers.
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All EARS may look the same but are not created equal ;D
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Dali Concepts use fabric domes. All else being equal, I don't think they can be "brighter" than those w/ metal tweets.
And for me, the AE's are not nakakaantok. And Dali's are not too bright. Hindi ka naman masisiraan ng bait if you'll pick one over the other.
PS
Those DM 600 S3's are lovely speakers.
i agree in all aspects of your opinion.
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Dali Concepts use fabric domes. All else being equal, I don't think they can be "brighter" than those w/ metal tweets.
This comment gives me the impression that the tweeter material
determines the speaker's overall sound character
(that is, whether it is 'bright' or 'warm').
You are essentially saying it is impossible for speakers with fabric domes
to sound any 'brighter' than those with metal dome tweeters.
I think this generalization is wrong.
Bose acoustimass speakers are made of cheap Manila hemp
and don't have dedicated tweeters. Do you honestly think they
do not sound brighter than say, Wharfedales or B&W's?
The characteristic 'brightness' of a speaker is not a mere function
of the tweeter material it is made of. It is a function of the whole package
of which the midrange and bass drivers also play a crucial role.
In fact, the midrange and bass reproduction can have more impact
on the overall speaker sound (whether 'bright' or 'warm') than the
tweeters alone. Remember that the tweeter only produces a narrow
range of frequencies compared to the frequencies produced by
the bass and midrange drivers. Tweeters also produce only a small
fraction of the SPL levels produced by the midrange and bass drivers
which makes the bass and midrange drivers (particularly the midrange)
more controlling of the overall tonal character of the whole speaker package
than the tweeters alone.
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Hi brandon.
I am not an expert but let me explain my side based on the things that I know. You can, of course, correct me and that would be much appreciated.
For me "brightness", has more to do w/ highs frequencies. Too loud highs, for me, is bright. Emphasized midrange, for me, is not.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the tweeter that produces the wider range of frequencies? High frequencies start at 5KHz and assuming the crossover is at 5K, that's a 15K range for the tweeter.
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All EARS may look the same but are not created equal ;D
BULLSEYE! Na DaLi mo pre! Musta na!?..... :) ;D
Dali, AE, MA, Wharfedale, Mission, MS = YMMV
newdbiedin, Depende na sa iyo yun kung ano ang type mo. Ikaw ang makikinig at gagastos hindi yun mga tao sa tabi mo. ;D Better to consider the following pointers rather than listening to others :
1. Do you like it?
2. Budget - Do you have the money? Are you willing to spend for it?
3. Room/Space - Room size, room acoustics
4. Equipment - What amp will be driving it? What cables/wires are going to use?
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Bright speaker... try to listen to them for a couple hours then tsaka mag conclude. ;D
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the tweeter that produces the wider range of frequencies?
High frequencies start at 5KHz and assuming the crossover is at 5K, that's a 15K range for the
tweeter.
Yes, it's a wider range NUMERICALLY SPEAKING, but you should remember that musical content
from 5KHz - 20KHz is very small compared to the musical content below that range (20 Hz - 5KHz).
It is for this reason that some speakers, even without a dedicated tweeter like the Bose acoustimass
cubes can still sound 'bright'.
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Bi-wirable is not necessarilly better. In fact, some manufacturers have gone from Bi-wireable to Single wireable na lang.
The best thing to do is listen to the Evo bi-wired then compare it to the Dalis.
Sa sand filling naman, pwede mo naman i sand fill karamihan ng speakers.
If you are happy with the EVO3, that's excellent. Just keep an open mind. Pag ma expose ka pa sa maraming speakers and systems, maybe you'll find out that there are speakers that can do better with rock music.
Just my 2 cents :)
Newbiedin,
went to the same confusing course when i was hunting for a pair of floorstanders late last year... like you, i narrowed down my choices to these two speakers.... but in my case, i will use the speakers for a tube set-up then and not for HT as i am very much pleased with my all Mission M70 series set with the Onkyo 601.... you did not mentioned on your post if the tests that you underwent to AB these speakers used a single wire for each brand because the Dali Concept 6 is not biwirable while the AE Evo 3 is; secondly, were the two brands fully broken-in when you tested; was the room treated or in a basic concrete, wood and what have you condition? This is vital because these are the three important considerations when i decided which to buy.
Admittedly, the Concept 6 will really astound everyone even at out of the box testing as it is very dynamic, lively the HIs bloom, the bass rocks for me and the looks' a killer. But the upgrade path is limited, not biwirable and sand-fillable.
The AE Evo 3 is factory sand-filled (you can even add some more to yuor heart's content) and when biwired will bring you to a different level, totally different when wired singly, as if a different speaker is singing. Furthermore, out of the box, the AE Evo 3 will not leave any impressive performance to buyers as it sounded like what the others say Nakakantok pakinggan, but wait till you hear it when fully broken in. I don't know if how many of us here have already listened to a thousand times to the AE Evo 3 playing RUSH's Tom Sawyer, Red Barchetta, 2112, La Villa Strangiato and ACDC's Highway to Hell, Back in Black, For those who want to Rock We Salute you, or Led Zeppelin's Ten Year's Gone, The Song Remains the Same with justice. I personally disagree that the Evo 3 is nakakaantok if you are really familiar with the songs above. Hindi duduguin ang tenga mo with the Evo 3 if you play rock music to the max all day.
This is me.
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Yes, it's a wider range NUMERICALLY SPEAKING, but you should remember that musical content
from 5KHz - 20KHz is very small compared to the musical content below that range (20 Hz - 5KHz).
It is for this reason that some speakers, even without a dedicated tweeter like the Bose acoustimass
cubes can still sound 'bright'.
Ok, I get you. But, tweeters can be made to do midrange too, depending on the crossover frequency.
Are you referring to those Bose cubes? A 2-inch driver is not enough for bass. 'Bright' nga.
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Hi Brandon,
I agree with bumblebee. Ang importante sa speakers is yung pagka integrate ng mga drivers. Kung kulang ang bass, magiging pronounced ang highs kaya mukhang bright. Actually, ang brightness sa akin is either upper mids and highs. Kaya hindi lang tweeter.
God Bless :)
Hi brandon.
I am not an expert but let me explain my side based on the things that I know. You can, of course, correct me and that would be much appreciated.
For me "brightness", has more to do w/ highs frequencies. Too loud highs, for me, is bright. Emphasized midrange, for me, is not.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the tweeter that produces the wider range of frequencies? High frequencies start at 5KHz and assuming the crossover is at 5K, that's a 15K range for the tweeter.
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Bi-wirable is not necessarilly better. In fact, some manufacturers have gone from Bi-wireable to Single wireable na lang.
The best thing to do is listen to the Evo bi-wired then compare it to the Dalis.
Sa sand filling naman, pwede mo naman i sand fill karamihan ng speakers.
If you are happy with the EVO3, that's excellent. Just keep an open mind. Pag ma expose ka pa sa maraming speakers and systems, maybe you'll find out that there are speakers that can do better with rock music.
Just my 2 cents :
Hey, i have an open mind! and didn't i post that that was me... that's my preference and actual experience. you have no idea how vast my exposure to speakers is .... and besides, the discussion is only on Dali vs. AE.... i did not even influence everyone to buy AE because sound is subjective... :)
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Actually, speakers seem to be bright sounding not only because of an inbalance in the loudness of drivers, but more importantly, if there is a peak around a 2-octave range, for example 2k to 8k, the speaker will seem to be bright, even if the tweeter is properly padded or more attenuated than the midrange. Thus, even assuming you have a speaker, with a single full range driver, it may seem bright, if there is an impedance peak that is not properly padded or if there's rise/peak in the response curve, covering 2 octaves, the speaker will still sound bright even without a tweeter. I read somewhere that most music covers frequencies below 10khz, bihira lang ang mas mataas dito, and kung tumatanda tayo, mas mahirap madinig ang higher frequencies, parang nagiging 16khz nalang ang limit ng hearing pag tumatanda. So given yung paghina ng hearing natin and the amoung of musical information above the 10khz range is limited, some speaker do still sound "bright" because of this 2-octave range peak. For those who DIY or mod speakers, ang kadalasan na remedy sa "hot" na tweeter or even midrange is to place a series cap and resistor parallel to the driver, this is an impedance peak correcting network, used to tame yung impedance peak, resulting to a mellower sound. So that's why we say those bose mini drivers are bright, its because of an impedance peak at the higher octaves na pinabayaan nalang malamang ng designer to give the small midrange driver some high frequency output. Hope this helps. :D
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Actually, speakers seem to be bright sounding not only because of an inbalance in the loudness of drivers, but more importantly, if there is a peak around a 2-octave range, for example 2k to 8k, the speaker will seem to be bright, even if the tweeter is properly padded or more attenuated than the midrange. Thus, even assuming you have a speaker, with a single full range driver, it may seem bright, if there is an impedance peak that is not properly padded or if there's rise/peak in the response curve, covering 2 octaves, the speaker will still sound bright even without a tweeter. I read somewhere that most music covers frequencies below 10khz, bihira lang ang mas mataas dito, and kung tumatanda tayo, mas mahirap madinig ang higher frequencies, parang nagiging 16khz nalang ang limit ng hearing pag tumatanda. So given yung paghina ng hearing natin and the amoung of musical information above the 10khz range is limited, some speaker do still sound "bright" because of this 2-octave range peak. For those who DIY or mod speakers, ang kadalasan na remedy sa "hot" na tweeter or even midrange is to place a series cap and resistor parallel to the driver, this is an impedance peak correcting network, used to tame yung impedance peak, resulting to a mellower sound. So that's why we say those bose mini drivers are bright, its because of an impedance peak at the higher octaves na pinabayaan nalang malamang ng designer to give the small midrange driver some high frequency output. Hope this helps. :D
Thanks DOHbert. Very well explained. This explanation settles the 'brightness' issue...
That aluminum dome tweeters do not necessarily mean that the speakers using them
will always sound brighter than those using fabric domes or those without any 'real'
tweeters to speak of.
Actually, if you notice along B&W lines, the 700 series is generally considered 'bright' while the
600 series is generally considered to be 'warm' by many. They both bear the same aluminum
dome tweeters and kevlar midrange yet have different sonic characteristics.
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just to add... one popular or legendary "sweet" sounding speakers were the Celestions Sl 6 series (6, 6s, 6si, 600 and 700) had aluminum and copper tweeters
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Pahabol din about construction of tweeters, metallic dome tweeters per se are not brighter/hotter than fiber/cloth dome tweeters, though they sound more detailed and metallic. They will sound bright because of the way the tweeter was used in the crossover design. Metal dome tweeters generally have lower impedance peaks than their cloth dome counterparts, because of this, speaker designers push the crossover point much lower than what they will try with cloth domes, or if both cloth and metal dome tweeters were used with the same cutoff frequency, kadalasan mas steep ang cutoff na gamit sa cloth since malapit na or exacto sa impedance peak ang cutoff, for example 2khz (which is the x-over point usually used) the designer will probably use a 2nd or 3rd order for the cloth, pero sa metal dome, pwede pang gamitan ng 1st or 2nd order at 2k, kasi mababa yung impedance peak nila, generally nasa 1k or 750hz range. So pag nag 1st order sa tweeter at 2khz, yung next octave na 1khz is just 6db lower and exacto pas sa peak nya, kaya kulang ang pag-pad, therefore parang bright sya, although ang nag-cause nito ay 1khz lang. ;D
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Question: Assuming we are beyond the cutoff, would the "metallic" nature of the tweeter greatly affect the "brightness" or "warmness" of the speaker?
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no. assuming all the drivers are operating at their ideal frequency range, it wouldn't matter whether your tweeter is metallic or not.
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Cutoff of which driver? Tweeter or midrange? If the midrange is forced to produce high frequencies, the tendency is for the speaker to shout, parang pag pinakinggan, strained ang voice ng singer. If the tweeter on the other hand is made to produce the low frequencies of 1khz, then it will distort, and whether it is metallic or soft dome. Again, pag nakaroon ng peak covering 2 octaves, magiging bright and sibilant yung tunog. Also, mabilis mapundi yung tweeter if forced into distortion. :)
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For frequencies above the crossover cutoff.
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Pag 2 way yung speaker, the woofer may be forced to produce frequencies above its optimum range in the higher frequencies, ang kadalasan ang midrange or woofer because of the voice coil, produces a rising impedance in the higher frequencies, so pag di pinutol before that frequency range, sumisigaw na yung mid/woofer. Pag tweeter, dapat ang comfort range nyan is bago mag peak ang impedance which is usually in the range of 1.5khz or 2khz, so pag pinutol mo sya way lower than that, distortion ang lalabas sa tweeter, basag ang tunog ng tweeter and over emphasized. Hope my explanation is clear. :D
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Ibig kong sabihin, assuming si tweeter na lang ang tumutunog, me epekto ba yung pagka-metal nya o fabric? Isip ko kc, when cymbals crash, mas mahinahon ang tunog pag fabric.
Btw, thanks for those informative posts.
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in my experience usually metallic tweeters reproduce cymbals clearer.
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Metallic/aluminum tweeters sound emm more metallic than soft domes. :P and pag dating sa detail, mas litaw sa metal dome. If you want more mellow highs, not as glaring and detailed, go for softdomes. Metal domes mas maganda tumunog pag cymbals, or yung bakal na ewan sa drumset, pero pag dating sa guitar, mas maganda ang soft dome, mas warm tumunog, parang nylon cords ang pina-pluck, pag metal domes ang gumitara, parang metal strings and pagka pluck. Opinion and dinig ko lang po. ;)
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Thanks, john and DOHbert. (parang John Doe hehehe)
Pareho tayo ng findings. Kaya ko nasabi na mas "bright" pag metal tweets gamit.
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makiki-sawsaw lang po :)......please forgive these seemingly stupid questions that i would like to be clarified of coz am just a newbie in audio :-[......don't be fooled by the number of posts printed across my handle, 97% of them were posted on the DVD (video) related threads of this website ;D
i kept on reading these descriptions on speakers and even on receivers, in almost all the audio related threads herein, to wit: "bright", "bright side", "warm", "warm side", at meron pa ngang "dark side" akala mo star wars ;D ;D ;D the usage of these descriptions here is so rampant that a 'STIGMA' has already been attached to some speakers &/or receivers as being "bright" or "warm". some members (even those who are as greenhorn as i am in audio) would simply & conveniently categorize or generalize certain brands as "naku, bright yang speakers na yan" or "naku, pangit ang combo na yan, parehong bright ang speakers at receiver na yan" & "dapat warm ang speakers para di masakit sa tenga", or other words or phrases of similar import. basic examples of these generalization are: yamaha receivers as "bright", B&W speakers also as "bright", HK receivers as "warm", etc.
on the other hand, i seldom encounter these descriptions and generalizations whenever i visit some international websites/forums on audio/video most especially w/ regards to receivers. they use some other adjectives that are very specific & particular about the tonal characteristics of a certain speaker or receiver model, not merely as "bright" or "warm". AND they don't generalize their descriptions on the whole line of models of a particular brand of speaker or receiver.
so, am just wondering on the following, and these are now my questions:
a) is there a scientific instrument or barometer used in measuring whether a particular speaker or receiver is on the "bright side" or "warm side" as these words are understood here in pinoydvd? if there is, what is this instrument?
b) in the absence of such scientific instrument, is there a scientific method or research that can be conducted by which a particular speaker or receiver can be fairly tested & described as being "bright" or "warm", again as these words are understood here in pinoydvd? if there is, is it generally accepted by the audiophile community and other audio/video organizations as being a fool-proof methodology?
c) in the absence of these two, is there a published audio (or audio/video) journal, book, or magazine that contain & cronicles the opinions, observations and conclusions of world-renowned audiophiles, sound/accoustic engineers & other audio/video experts, categorizing certain speakers/receivers or their particular models as being on the "bright side" or "warm side", again as these words are understood here in pinoydvd?
in the absence of any of the three (3) above, curious lang po ako as to how the rampant descriptions & generalizations of certain brands of speakers & receivers, either fairly or unfairly, have evolved here in pinoydvd ::)......i think there has to be some basis for this phenomenon :o.......di kaya dahil nagkataon lang na halos karamihan ng magagaling at may ginintuang mga tenga sa odyo dito sa pinoydvd ay pare-parehas ang panlasa or preference pagdating sa kung ano ang nasa "bright side" or "warm side".
is this just a consensus here at pinoydvd or there's some solid basis for these generalizations ::)...... nagtatanong lang po at hindi nakikipag-debate ;D ;D ;D, thanks a lot in advance 8)
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ahhh...generalization and sweeping remarks...things one must avoid in this hobby of audio:)
the best thing to do is audition, have an open mind....audio is very subjective. One man's disdain is another man's bliss.
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Yes there is a tool, your ears... hehehe ....seriously read one of the reviews in Stereophile, One reviewer would say something like "These speakers are warm" and would follow with "but lets wait for Johns measurements to confirm this". the reviewer uses his ears to "measure" the response of the component whereas John (John Atkinson- editor) uses some form of tools to measure the response of the component
makiki-sawsaw lang po :)......please forgive these seemingly stupid questions that i would like to be clarified of coz am just a newbie in audio :-[......don't be fooled by the number of posts printed across my handle, 97% of them were posted on the DVD (video) related threads of this website ;D
i kept on reading these descriptions on speakers and even on receivers, in almost all the audio related threads herein, to wit: "bright", "bright side", "warm", "warm side", at meron pa ngang "dark side" akala mo star wars ;D ;D ;D the usage of these descriptions here is so rampant that a 'STIGMA' has already been attached to some speakers &/or receivers as being "bright" or "warm". some members (even those who are as greenhorn as i am in audio) would simply & conveniently categorize or generalize certain brands as "naku, bright yang speakers na yan" or "naku, pangit ang combo na yan, parehong bright ang speakers at receiver na yan" & "dapat warm ang speakers para di masakit sa tenga", or other words or phrases of similar import. basic examples of these generalization are: yamaha receivers as "bright", B&W speakers also as "bright", HK receivers as "warm", etc.
on the other hand, i seldom encounter these descriptions and generalizations whenever i visit some international websites/forums on audio/video most especially w/ regards to receivers. they use some other adjectives that are very specific & particular about the tonal characteristics of a certain speaker or receiver model, not merely as "bright" or "warm". AND they don't generalize their descriptions on the whole line of models of a particular brand of speaker or receiver.
so, am just wondering on the following, and these are now my questions:
a) is there a scientific instrument or barometer used in measuring whether a particular speaker or receiver is on the "bright side" or "warm side" as these words are understood here in pinoydvd? if there is, what is this instrument?
b) in the absence of such scientific instrument, is there a scientific method or research that can be conducted by which a particular speaker or receiver can be fairly tested & described as being "bright" or "warm", again as these words are understood here in pinoydvd? if there is, is it generally accepted by the audiophile community and other audio/video organizations as being a fool-proof methodology?
c) in the absence of these two, is there a published audio (or audio/video) journal, book, or magazine that contain & cronicles the opinions, observations and conclusions of world-renowned audiophiles, sound/accoustic engineers & other audio/video experts, categorizing certain speakers/receivers or their particular models as being on the "bright side" or "warm side", again as these words are understood here in pinoydvd?
in the absence of any of the three (3) above, curious lang po ako as to how the rampant descriptions & generalizations of certain brands of speakers & receivers, either fairly or unfairly, have evolved here in pinoydvd ::)......i think there has to be some basis for this phenomenon :o.......di kaya dahil nagkataon lang na halos karamihan ng magagaling at may ginintuang mga tenga sa odyo dito sa pinoydvd ay pare-parehas ang panlasa or preference pagdating sa kung ano ang nasa "bright side" or "warm side".
is this just a consensus here at pinoydvd or there's some solid basis for these generalizations ::)...... nagtatanong lang po at hindi nakikipag-debate ;D ;D ;D, thanks a lot in advance 8)
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ahhh...generalization and sweeping remarks...things one must avoid in this hobby of audio:)
the best thing to do is audition, have an open mind....audio is very subjective. One man's disdain is another man's bliss.
this is exactly my honest belief sir john5479, thanks 8)
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Yes there is a tool, your ears... hehehe ....seriously read one of the reviews in Stereophile, One reviewer would say something like "These speakers are warm" and would follow with "but lets wait for Johns measurements to confirm this". the reviewer uses his ears to "measure" the response of the component whereas John (John Atkinson- editor) uses some form of tools to measure the response of the component
ano po kayang 'tool' ang ginagamit ni Mr. John Atkinson "to measure the response of the component" as you put it, sana hindi lang ang tenga nya, hehehe ;D ;D ;D
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BULLSEYE! Na DaLi mo pre! Musta na!?..... :) ;D
Senor! ;D busy and still hoping to be with the group again ;)
to comment on the post of Classicman, either of the two terms (warm or bright) or other terms maybe to describe what you hear when listening are not at all connected to being good or bad. You say and consider it good or bad when you hear it and also actually feel it. If it annoys your ears then its bad, if it triggers some good feelings then its good. So whats the heck? its all in one's ears i supposed.
Many members here shuns out equipments which they believe give bright output. Thats a choice really, because if they dont like it, my ears does. In our own world of listening i tell you both of us are happy with it. If they can reach that level of nirvana in their own world, of course i can achieve that too in my own world.
Try to list all known gears here, be it amps, speakers, ICs, wires, etc., and draw the line between the warm sounding and bright sounding. I did this once -- and after that i realized, that though we can all go to that level of satisfaction, mine is cheaper than theirs ;D
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Metallic/aluminum tweeters sound emm more metallic than soft domes. :P and pag dating sa detail, mas litaw sa metal dome. If you want more mellow highs, not as glaring and detailed, go for softdomes. Metal domes mas maganda tumunog pag cymbals, or yung bakal na ewan sa drumset, pero pag dating sa guitar, mas maganda ang soft dome, mas warm tumunog, parang nylon cords ang pina-pluck, pag metal domes ang gumitara, parang metal strings and pagka pluck. Opinion and dinig ko lang po. ;)
I find soft dome tweeter produced more realistic mids than metal. A speaker with softdome tweeter & a ribbon tweeter might be an advantage. (IMHO)
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I check the FR curve (if available) and see whether it coincides w/ what my ears tell me.
Generalizations are just conclusions based on samples. Not absolute truths.
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in my experience usually metallic tweeters reproduce cymbals clearer.
John,
Sama mo horn tweeter.. ;D
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two words: AUDITION MO!!!!! :D
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makiki-sawsaw lang po :)......please forgive these seemingly stupid questions that i would like to be clarified of coz am just a newbie in audio :-[......don't be fooled by the
ako rin ... pasawsaw!!! ;D ;D
he he he. kung bago ka rin sa pinoydvd forum - ingat ka talaga - dami mahilig mag-generalize! nakakita ng specs, may conclusion na rin sa performance.
On the tweeter side, I have some materials which I wanted to hear in horn tweeter, some on soft domes, and some on metal domes. As it has been known on some forum, no single speaker is do-it-all sa lahat ng music genre. Know what you want to listen to,and get it. Comparison is good in this regard, if people who compares lay the perimeters of comparison: the amp used, the software listen to, the speakers, otherwise I just don't know to whom it can be useful.
I think there is no such thing as standard that can dictate how an art should be appreciated - the art of listening. For technology measurement, yes - but how warm is warm or how bright is bright is too affected by so many factors affecting the reproduction of music in one's home.
But I will make a bet with Kimpao ;) - mine is cheaper! ;D (hi sir, peace) - and am not in Nirvana ... am in heaven ;D ;D
Audition is the only key to determine sonic performance as far as your ears are concerned. And no tools can measure how good a sonic performance is - though it can give you tech data. have you heard of a tool that measure soundstage, imaging, depth, heights, etc (ano nga ba itong mga ito? ;D ;D ;D)
Pero let's accept the facts:
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Life in this world is not fair!!! ;D ;D ;D...
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some have 'golden ears' (ano yun???) ;D
some have cheap gears to enjoy (congrats kimps)
some have cheaper gears to enjoy the more (congrats me ::))
some have expensive gears and yet not happy :P.
Those that generalize ... you now knew ... just don't know what they are talking about! :P :P
O sya, i-audition na yung mga FS sa buy&sell section!!!
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the posted questions above were meant to drive a point more than to solicit advices on what kind of gears to acquire since my HT set-up is quiet complete already kahit panay on the "bright side" lang, if we are to follow the generalization being practiced here, hehehe ;D ;D ;D
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eh ano kung- bright brighter brightest, warm warmer warmest, dark, darker darkest....
nakakaantok, mas nakakaantok, pinaka-nakakaantok ;D
kung saan ka maligaya doon ka... @ the end of the day, IKAW ang makikinig at manonood sa HT/ audio setup mo ;D
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ako rin ... pasawsaw!!! ;D ;D
he he he. kung bago ka rin sa pinoydvd forum - ingat ka talaga - dami mahilig mag-generalize! nakakita ng specs, may conclusion na rin sa performance.
On the tweeter side, I have some materials which I wanted to hear in horn tweeter, some on soft domes, and some on metal domes. As it has been known on some forum, no single speaker is do-it-all sa lahat ng music genre. Know what you want to listen to,and get it. Comparison is good in this regard, if people who compares lay the perimeters of comparison: the amp used, the software listen to, the speakers, otherwise I just don't know to whom it can be useful.
I think there is no such thing as standard that can dictate how an art should be appreciated - the art of listening. For technology measurement, yes - but how warm is warm or how bright is bright is too affected by so many factors affecting the reproduction of music in one's home.
But I will make a bet with Kimpao ;) - mine is cheaper! ;D (hi sir, peace) - and am not in Nirvana ... am in heaven ;D ;D
Audition is the only key to determine sonic performance as far as your ears are concerned. And no tools can measure how good a sonic performance is - though it can give you tech data. have you heard of a tool that measure soundstage, imaging, depth, heights, etc (ano nga ba itong mga ito? ;D ;D ;D)
Pero let's accept the facts:
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Life in this world is not fair!!! ;D ;D ;D...
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some have 'golden ears' (ano yun???) ;D
some have cheap gears to enjoy (congrats kimps)
some have cheaper gears to enjoy the more (congrats me ::))
some have expensive gears and yet not happy :P.
Those that generalize ... you now knew ... just don't know what they are talking about! :P :P
O sya, i-audition na yung mga FS sa buy&sell section!!!
Ah!!! Errrrr.... ::) aHobbit, you "LOST me with hello". ;D Duhhhhhh?????.........................
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But I will make a bet with Kimpao ;) - mine is cheaper! ;D (hi sir, peace) - and am not in Nirvana ... am in heaven ;D ;D
Uy! panay second hand ang gamit ko ah! Finally, I was able to get hold of a surplus cdp from the supermarket for less than 1.7k. ;D , except for the TT and cart. ;D ;D
Audition is the only key to determine sonic performance as far as your ears are concerned. And no tools can measure how good a sonic performance is - though it can give you tech data. have you heard of a tool that measure soundstage, imaging, depth, heights, etc (ano nga ba itong mga ito? ;D ;D ;D)
I definitely agree with you on this. So called tools for measurement? Errrrrrr......CRAP! Best to rely on your ears not on those so called tools (meron nga bang tool na nagme-measure ng soundstage, image, depth?........... Ang alam ko tenga mismo ng nakikinig yun eh.) ;D ;D ;D
Pero let's accept the facts:
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Life in this world is not fair!!! ;D ;D ;D...
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Kelan ba naging fair?..... ;D ;D ;D
some have 'golden ears' (ano yun???) ;D
Umaapaw sa tenga an l*ga kaya nagkukulay "gold" ang kanyang "ears". ;D ;D
some have cheap gears to enjoy (congrats kimps)
some have cheaper gears to enjoy the more (congrats me ::))
ah basta! >:( pareho mura gamit natin. ;D ;D ;D But seriously and speaking of speakers, got mine for a bargain even though the brand is somewhat bordering on mid to highend speakers. ;D ;D
some have expensive gears and yet not happy :P.
Mga na hoyo, naloko o na-ahente ang tawag diyan. ;D ;D ;D
Those that generalize ... you now knew ... just don't know what they are talking about! :P :P
Scholar ata sir nun bata-bata pa. ;D ;D
O sya, i-audition na yung mga FS sa buy&sell section!!!
sir mukhang may binebenta ka sa Buy and Sell section. Shameless plug yan.................. Ahehehehehehe ;D ;D
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kim, na-compare ko yung Dali Concept 6 vs. the Monitor Audio RS1...talagang maganda yung - PAREHO!
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kim, na-compare ko yung Dali Concept 6 vs. the Monitor Audio RS1...talagang maganda yung - PAREHO!
di pa, rinig ko na both but on different occassions plus different room conditions. hirap i-judge.
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Pero let's accept the facts:
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Life in this world is not fair!!! ...
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some have 'golden ears' (ano yun???)
some have cheap gears to enjoy (congrats kimps)
some have cheaper gears to enjoy the more (congrats me )
some have expensive gears and yet not happy .
LOLZ!!! ;D ;D ;D
nag assemble ako ng athlon64 3500+ and it costs me 95thousand and still i am not happy. ???
yet, nakamana ako sa bayaw ko ng AIWA mini compo, pero hanep sa ganda ng performance! you can close your eyes and feel as if the singer is besides you, malambing, parang tubo ang tunog. ;D
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di pa, rinig ko na both but on different occassions plus different room conditions. hirap i-judge.
ako, same room condition, same gears...tama ka, mahirap i-judge...
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LOLZ!!! ;D ;D ;D
nag assemble ako ng athlon64 3500+ and it costs me 95thousand and still i am not happy. ???
yet, nakamana ako sa bayaw ko ng AIWA mini compo, pero hanep sa ganda ng performance! you can close your eyes and feel as if the singer is besides you, malambing, parang tubo ang tunog. ;D
Sir 2ny, bakit mo ibinubunyag ito . . . pinakaiingatang sikreto ko ito! ;D
Nag-aabang ako ng Teac L70 2nd hand, pati na sharp ***** atbp, pag nabalitaan ng iba, tiyak tataas na naman ang presyo ng mga ito (like what is happening in pier) >:(
If no buyer knows, and the seller dont know what he is selling, the more you can haggle the price ... as in almost libre na! ;D ;D ;D ..... and you will be in cheap paradise (ayoko na ng nirvana at heaven - iba naman ;D )
Congrats to your AIWA mini compo!!! ;) Ano speaker kabit mo?
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OT: pangit yang teac L700 hehehe ;)
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Congrats to your AIWA mini compo!!! Ano speaker kabit mo?
yung speaker na kasama nya ;D take note, ang speaker cable yung original na gage22.
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Ganda naman talaga Aiwa. Gamit ko nga Aiwa NSX-320 speakers. Speaker cable ko nga DIY lang (from Home cable galing iyung RG-59 coax - libre).
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sir 2ny, hindi ka pa nagsasawa sa aiwa mo? ..or rephrase-- di ba nakakasawa ang aiwa? ;D ::)
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sir 2ny, hindi ka pa nagsasawa sa aiwa mo? ..or rephrase-- di ba nakakasawa ang aiwa? ;D ::)
di naman, mas matagal kasi ako sa harap ng pc, i get to listen to it because of my teenage son ;D
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guys i nid help, newbie here, i'm planning to setup up my HT/audio 60/40. i have a 7.1 speaker budget of 150k upto 200k, which brand of speakers should i consider, my preference is more on mid to high frequency like voice, percusion and drums, and a tight bass. I hve auditioned B&W s3, Paradigm studio 60, Jmlab Chorus but i would like try other pa sana, my room size is 6L*4W0*(1.7-2.3)H, (attic kasi kaya di pantay ang ceiling), HELP!!! HELP!!! HELP!!!
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Try mo rin i-audition ang Infinity.
Im sure magugustuhan mo ito considering iyung preference mo.
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ito ultimate ht set up.
http://www.allhometheater.net/KLIPSCH-ULTRA-2-THX-SYSTEM-P797C234.aspx
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guys i nid help, newbie here, i'm planning to setup up my HT/audio 60/40. i have a 7.1 speaker budget of 150k upto 200k, which brand of speakers should i consider, my preference is more on mid to high frequency like voice, percusion and drums, and a tight bass. I hve auditioned B&W s3, Paradigm studio 60, Jmlab Chorus but i would like try other pa sana, my room size is 6L*4W0*(1.7-2.3)H, (attic kasi kaya di pantay ang ceiling), HELP!!! HELP!!! HELP!!!
sir, sa akin po..ill go with B&W speakers. 600 or 700 series 3..di kayo mapapahiya sa gusto niyo(voice, clarity, percusion and drums) and matched with a Velo cht12r..di din kayo mapapahiya dito :D
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sir, sa akin po..ill go with B&W speakers. 600 or 700 series 3..di kayo mapapahiya sa gusto niyo(voice, clarity, percusion and drums) and matched with a Velo cht12r..di din kayo mapapahiya dito :D
naks naman.......talagang B&W loyalist tayo ah sir ronjet ;D 8)
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naks naman.......talagang B&W loyalist tayo ah sir ronjet ;D 8)
Bro kung ako din may pera lang I'll get the B&W brand ;D
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tnx pips for ur reply, im confuse, I plan to set-up my room acoustics first then request dealers to auditioned there speakers onsite, am i right?
where can i get a velodyne
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mga Sir ano po ba yung tinatawag na PA speakers?
Same din ba sila ng performance ng mga pang home theater ? What is their difference?
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I just want to have feedback from experienced listeners. I transferred into a smaller room measuring 11 by 9 by 8 and I have to give up my big floorstanders. I am now choosing between a second hand kef q15.2 and a brand new wharfedale 9.1.
I know that we might be hearing differently but I want to have opinions nonetheless. Because I find it difficult to compare speakers when I can’t listen to them side by side and coupled with differences in listening rooms, it is really hard to compare.
I have an HK130 that I plan to use with the speakers. It would be used for 80/20 in favor of music. My choice of music is varied from jazz to folk rock to progressive rock to metal. I would like to have neutral speakers or those with minimal colorations along with non fussy placement.
Thanks a lot for your help.
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up for theshade.
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Guys, Im planning to a buy a new pair of floorstanding speakers. Malaki ba ang difference nilang dalawa when it comes to sound??
Worth ba ang additional 4,000 kapag bumili ako ng 9.5?
Wharfedale Diamond 8.4>> 8,500 php
Wharfedale Diamond 9.5>> 12,500 php
Thanks in advance! ;D
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Guys, need your help to decide.
A friend offered to buy my dali speakers which consist of Concept 6 (front) Concept Center and Concept 1 (surround)... I'm toying with the Idea of getting the BW S3 602, 600 and LCR.
I'm very happy with the Dali's but the itch to switch is all over me... I'm infected with some sort of HT Virus...
I can't make up my mind, Should I go for it?
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IMHO, both are OK...however, personally i am biased with the DALI...good luck! :D :D :D
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In this hobby, it's nice to have new speakers every so often. ;D So long as you like what you hear with the new ones.
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What's receiver would you be pairing it with?
Have you auditioned the B&W with your receiver?
If you like the sound of the B&W match with your current receiver then go for it.
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dali pa din!! ;D ;D
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I use B&W 600 for my HT and Dali Ikon for my Audio. For me its very hard to choose between the two. To make it more complicated, how about the Dali Ikon for HT?
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Para saken go with the 8.4, just be sure to have good amplification, mas magand para saken ung voice nya, though with the 9.5, it seems as if much better ang highs nya, though hindi sya ganon ka noticable so much on a non - audiophile prospective, dont know maybe the amplification used...
just me though.
still, kung dyan lang sa dalawa, 8.4 me! and mas gusto ko kasi ung looks nya due to the black edition and yellow kevlar drivers!
;D
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Levi,
I wish... Did careful listening to my HT lastnight. Will keep the Dali and save. What I need is a new amp!
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Hi guys, pa update naman - after more than a year, are Yamaha and Gale speakers still good contenders for entry level 5.1 speaker packages?
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Hi guys, pa update naman - after more than a year, are Yamaha and Gale speakers still good contenders for entry level 5.1 speaker packages?
I think the Gales are already phased out at 5th Ave..... what's on display are the Carnival series already, mas mataas lang yata by a thou bucks more or less.
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I have the wharfedale 8.4/Center/DFS and they do the job quite well and I am completely satisfied... Note the "86db" sensitivity of the 8.4s you will need a good receiver, amp to power those speakers vs "90db". When the 8.4s are positioned properly, and only the L and R are working (effects off), there is a cool illusion that sound comes from the center (although the center speaker is off). I suggest you demo the 9.5 and maybe the 9.6?
oh, btw, my HT room pictures:
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=55046.msg601343#msg601343
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Hi Bro,
Just from a personal experience and preference. Had a 9.1 before, but never had an experience with the q15.2. Have kef c35 and Q compact both with the uni-q technology. All I can say is that I'll get a kef anytime as opposed to the 9.1.
Love the imaging of kef, you can actually hear the sound filling up the room regardless of your listening position. It has a decent bass (though I think the 9.1's did better in this area), a good midrange and the highs were clean and crisp. If your using it more for audio than for HT, i'd recommend you get a kef.
Then again its just my personal opinion. Im no expert here.
eestrera
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I would like to solicit you opinions on which is a better audio speaker between the B4 and the 602 S3. I am currently trying to decide which would have the widest sound range from the highs, mid lows and the lows. My music varies from classical, standards, flamencos, sambas, pock, rock etc. I will also be using this with an HT setup but will use this primarily for stereo/audio. The price of these 2 are almost at the same level, so price is not an issue.
Your expert views will count a lot.
Thanks and kind regards.
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guys i nid help, newbie here, i'm planning to setup up my HT/audio 60/40. i have a 7.1 speaker budget of 150k upto 200k, which brand of speakers should i consider, my preference is more on mid to high frequency like voice, percusion and drums, and a tight bass. I hve auditioned B&W s3, Paradigm studio 60, Jmlab Chorus but i would like try other pa sana, my room size is 6L*4W0*(1.7-2.3)H, (attic kasi kaya di pantay ang ceiling), HELP!!! HELP!!! HELP!!!
Maganda nga ang B&W plus Cht-12r, tapos denon avr 3805 tapos i bi-amp mo sa Rotel power amp. nakow!!! saraap!! Consider mo rin Mission Speakers, balita ko maganda ung M5 series ;) Sakto na siguro budget mo. Hmm..i guess..Don't forget to consider ur HT room accoustic treatments. - Very important! At most importantly, i post mo ung picture ng setup mo in the making. ;D goodluck!
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9.1, i understand received a favorable review/award from WATT HI FI
Saw & heard one...Nice cabinetry,good drivers and muy gwap0!
Wharfedale, with known British blood.
Its a good buy, i guess. value for money!
I didnt bother to see/listen to KEF...no time.
Plan to have 9.1,rosewood too ;D(just like my friends' ;))
Just my opinion :)...
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check out this Japanese website that compares how speaker brands and models perform:
http://tukipie.net/audio/synopsis_of_SPEAKER.htm
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Maganda nga ang B&W plus Cht-12r, tapos denon avr 3805 tapos i bi-amp mo sa Rotel power amp. nakow!!! saraap!! Consider mo rin Mission Speakers, balita ko maganda ung M5 series ;) Sakto na siguro budget mo. Hmm..i guess..Don't forget to consider ur HT room accoustic treatments. - Very important! At most importantly, i post mo ung picture ng setup mo in the making. ;D goodluck!
Haha, familiar to ah.
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Haha, familiar to ah.
Ssshhhh!!! hihihi..kaninong setup ba to? ;D
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I have not had the chance to audition the VR1's yet. Im trying to compare this with EPOS M12.2. Any thoughts? Im having difficutly with my sched kaya di pa ko maka audition.
Thanks.
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le_stat:
good luck on your quest...i know you've boiled it down to te VR1, Epos, Ikon6...but try out the yperions, as i've texted you yesterday...thanks! :D
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Ssshhhh!!! hihihi..kaninong setup ba to? ;D
Kay looks family ;D
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Maganda nga ang B&W plus Cht-12r, tapos denon avr 3805 tapos i bi-amp mo sa Rotel power amp. nakow!!! saraap!! Consider mo rin Mission Speakers, balita ko maganda ung M5 series ;) Sakto na siguro budget mo. Hmm..i guess..Don't forget to consider ur HT room accoustic treatments. - Very important! At most importantly, i post mo ung picture ng setup mo in the making. ;D goodluck!
nice.....hehehehe ;D ;D B&W or Mission...can't get wrong with them....basta audition lang yan... ;D
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herehrherer pamilyar talaga yung mission setup na yon... ;D
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which is better between the b&w dm303 (bookshelf) with lcr 3 (center) or the mordaunt-short ms 905 (center) with the ms 904 (floor standing)? im considering the two for use with either a harman-kardon 235 or a marantz 4500
har, both BnW and MS are good speakers. what makes them bad are the gears that you would be using to drive them. HKs are known to sound quite dull as opposed to the bright character of marantz gears. for BnW, the HK might go well but definitely not with MS. marantz on the other hand would surely go well with MS but might sound too fatiguing with BnW. again, choose either MS or BnW and pair it with the proper electronics...you wont go wrong with either speaker brands..personally, i would go with MS..i own the MS502thx floorstanders with active subs. they were superb performers in both music and ht. a BnW model to perform this good would cost 3x its price.
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guys i nid help, newbie here, i'm planning to setup up my HT/audio 60/40. i have a 7.1 speaker budget of 150k upto 200k, which brand of speakers should i consider, my preference is more on mid to high frequency like voice, percusion and drums, and a tight bass. I hve auditioned B&W s3, Paradigm studio 60, Jmlab Chorus but i would like try other pa sana, my room size is 6L*4W0*(1.7-2.3)H, (attic kasi kaya di pantay ang ceiling), HELP!!! HELP!!! HELP!!!
happyfische, you wont go wrong with Paradigm. my suggestion....make your front speakers a paradigm studio 40. and the rest could be eithe the monitor or performance series. put more budget on your gear than the center and rears. just dont make a mistake of pairing them with bright sounding electronics for htey may tend to be fatiguing when listened to at extended period of time. rotel, nad, exposure, harman kardon are good match to paradigms, not to mention of course anthem.
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mga pare ano actually better sa dalawang ito if you compare similarly priced models
tnx
atty. jccastro
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Different speakers in the SAME price points/ranges just have different sonic coloration or character. Not better or worst. Whether you like one over the other is a personal preferrence. I pesoanlly prefer the brightness afforded by metal dome tweets of the MS over the sweetness of the fabric dome tweets of the diamonds. Aesthetically, I find them looking neater.
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AV phile is correct, they are different, not better. When you find one that suits your listening taste, that one becomes better, but for you only.
Personally, I find the MS too bright, but I heard it w/ a friend's Yamaha 530. I guess the combination wasnt very good (bright speaker + bright AVR). It needs to be combined with warmer sounding AVR's.
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how about if you were planning to put up a home theater, what would you like to have as floorstanders, ms or wharfe.
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Many speakers out there belong to a series you can get for stereo or for multchannel set-up in HT. Klipsch, Wharfes, MS, Missions, B&Ws, Tanoys, JBLs, Infinitys, etc. It really depends on your preferrence and budget. I have cast my lot on the MS for their brighter detailing. But that's just me. Wharfe diamonds I think handles power at higher volumes better. And had I known about the lousy aftersales service of 5th Ave who is the authorized distributor of MS, my choice would have pointed elsewhere.
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Please read first before deciding on Mordaunt Short:
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=42532.0
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thanks panyero
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how about if you were planning to put up a home theater, what would you like to have as floorstanders, ms or wharfe.
How big is your room? floorstanders were made for big rooms and will be boomy on small rooms.
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if you're comparing bookshelf-size speakers, diamond 9.1 is unbeatable for the price (5.5k bnew, 4k used)...... the closest MS speaker is the 902, which is more expensive...... i had both for a while and compared them side-by-side, the diamond had better mids & bass, and can go louder; but a little bit shy on the highs...... gotta match it with an amp that has lively treble.
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my entertainment space is about 20 square meters but the same is not isolated or enclosed because i want my house lay out to be open and contnouus without interior walls to box me in. this tv audio room is in the middle of my house and can be seen even if am in the kitchen, sala, lanai.
i realize this is not an ideal set up for a audio video room but......
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if you're comparing bookshelf-size speakers, diamond 9.1 is unbeatable for the price (5.5k bnew, 4k used)...... the closest MS speaker is the 902, which is more expensive...... i had both for a while and compared them side-by-side, the diamond had better mids & bass, and can go louder; but a little bit shy on the highs...... gotta match it with an amp that has lively treble.
Right on target!
Very subjective is this, if money is of no concern then you shall audition both and let the subject's ears decide which will well suit the senses.
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my entertainment space is about 20 square meters but the same is not isolated or enclosed because i want my house lay out to be open and contnouus without interior walls to box me in. this tv audio room is in the middle of my house and can be seen even if am in the kitchen, sala, lanai.
i realize this is not an ideal set up for a audio video room but......
Ok, since its a big open area, floorstanders it is. But dont forget to allocate funds for a powerful receiver since you need to amplify your speakers for a big open area.
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I go for Wharfe. Para syang MISSION, ok to pair with any brand ng amp.
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to avphile and matz. do you think this is a good buy
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=58917.msg633146#msg633146
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Seems like a good buy if good as new. Do some research on the net. MA Bronze seem overpriced locally.
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Yes, The MA's are great speakers, suits my listening taste too.
I have installed a HT for a relative using MA B2's for their HT and MA S6 for their audio setup. great sounding speakers. I only wish they had a prettier look. :)
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thanks for the good advice mga bro.
if you have legal question feel free to pm me. pwede rin annulment hehehe ;D ;D
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thanks for the good advice mga bro.
if you have legal question feel free to pm me. pwede rin annulment hehehe ;D ;D
Could too much addiction to HT and Audio be enough grounds for annulment? ;D ;D ;D Just joking.
Happy speaker hunting!
8)
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Could too much addiction to HT and Audio be enough grounds for annulment? ;D ;D ;D Just joking.
Happy speaker hunting!
8)
come to think of it mukhang pwede ngang maging grounds ;D ;D ;D
i'm also on a hunting mission. ;)
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come to think of it mukhang pwede ngang maging grounds ;D ;D ;D
i'm also on a hunting mission. ;)
pwede! ;D ;D ;D imagine the wife filling a complaint because of the husband's audio/video gears? malas na lang nun wife kung audiophile din yun judge! ;D ;D ;D
Happy hunting Assassin. ;)
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a good ground would be that the husband is not fulfilling his marital obligation because he is sleeping in the audio room instead of the bedroom ;) ;)
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pero pano na pag nag-partihan na? eh kung manalo yun wife baka kunin lahat audio gears ng husband para makaganti siya? ::)
dapat pala may pre-nuptial din sa audio/video. ;D ;D ;D
hahaha sobrang OT na. :P
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how about if you were planning to put up a home theater, what would you like to have as floorstanders, ms or wharfe.
have you heard the MS502thx? give them a listen, it might put an end to your thread. for audio however, i am leaning towards the wharfedale diamonds
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have you heard the MS502thx? give them a listen, it might put an end to your thread. for audio however, i am leaning towards the wharfedale diamonds
are these available locally. if yes, where and how much? thnks a lot
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mga pare ano actually better sa dalawang ito if you compare similarly priced models
tnx
atty. jccastro
Sir Atty. JC, only and only your own ears can give the "correct" answer to that question.
Like what the others had adviced, audition them, preferably with the same material. Bring your favorite DVD or CD.
Just my thoughts...
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My first setup was the MS Avant 5.1 satellite set, driven by an Onkyo 595. I did not find the MS "too bright", maybe because Onkyo was "warm sounding" and maybe due to the digital coax cable (vs. optic) as well.
I now moved into the more popular Wharf Diamond 9 (9.1, 9cs, 2 pairs 9dfs, SW150 -- 7.1) and the Yamaha 659. I've been trying to break in the speakers the past 2 days using CD music on 7 channel stereo mode.
After 2 days with the new setup, I have a feeling that my old setup sounded better to my ears. But... I have yet to break in the speakers fully. And I might have the bias towards Onkyo. Also, Yamaha's strengths is known to be for movies -- something I hope to experience shortly.
Tama sabi ni sir MAtZ, that the AV Receiver/Amplifier will play a major role with how the speakers sound.
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I have a diamond 8.4 for my fronts before powered by a yammy 650 but shifted to the dantax opus 5 w/c gave me better sound but lacks the power but just last friday when i tested it with the onkyo m5160, i was amized by the 8.4. The sound was outstanding, i never imaging that the wharfe can perform that well. It all boils down to giving the FS substantial power.
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I have a diamond 8.4 for my fronts before powered by a yammy 650 but shifted to the dantax opus 5 w/c gave me better sound but lacks the power but just last friday when i tested it with the onkyo m5160, i was amized by the 8.4. The sound was outstanding, i never imaging that the wharfe can perform that well. It all boils down to giving the FS substantial power.
Baka di mo na nga kelangan mag upgrade ng speakers. Enough na din ang well driven floorstander, di ba?
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are these available locally. if yes, where and how much? thnks a lot
all 5th avenue branches at SM mall, shangrila mall and others have this speakers. they used to be made in england(declaration series) but the latter models are now from china. each speaker has an active 150w built in sub. you need a THX receiver to full utilize the potential of these wonderful speakers in HT...they cost 39T 2 years ago. i belive they are now down to 32T.
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Ok.....Sight and sounds and the shop next door "paradigm" are both owned by the same guy. Very nice fellow. As you may know Sights and sounds sells B&W,Wharfdale, missions,Jamo, Onkyo, Denon, Pioneer, and the rest. Paradigm promotes (prodominantly) there own gear. (And with so much good competition out there I often wondered why) Today I wanted to demo the Wharfdale Evo2-30 the b&W 603 and the Paradigm monitor 7. Sights and sound manamanagmentment tried to ge the wharf evos but could not so it was a head to head only. So we hooked up the monitor 7 on channel A and B&W on channel B. Or was it the other way around...no matter. We listened first to 2 movie segments...Hero,and daredevil switching back and forth time and time again. And according to my wife it was no contest and in my opinion she was right hands down. But before rushing to final judgment we then played in stereo mode View from the vaultII. Now this has never been a favorite show of mine ( some good moments no doubt but in general I think it is fair at best) but the quality is so clean and crisp it is great for comparison. We jammed Help>Slip>Franklins at least three times....again jumping from channel A to B constantly. The clear winner was the monitor 7. I mean honestly....the B&W was not even in the same ball park. ( In the back of my mind I am now wondering if this fight was rigged). But both salesman I spoke to previously said the monitor 7 was a better speaker. Better than the B&W and the Wharfdale
And not for nothing...but I thought the Wharf diamond 9 series I demoed a few days back sounded better than the B&W as well.
dudes....just my humble opinion. Of all the demos thus far.....am most impressed with the monitor 7.
Also demoed the paradigm ADP 370 surround and must say they sounded real good.
Maybe this is why "paradigm" chooses to predominantly sell its own gear?
Now does any one out there have the experience to tell me what they think about this head to head and are you surprized about the results?
DISCUSS!
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The 603 is generally considered the weak link in the B&W 600 series line-up. Even the 602 bookshelf beats it.
Try the Epos M12.2 bookshelf on demo at Sights & Sound. For my money, it's the best speaker in the store.
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I am really doing demoes on floor standers for fronts. Any other suggestions? It does not have to be from sight and sound.
What floor stander is your recommendation for about 35,000 per pair ?
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listen to your ears! it really doesn't matter what brand you buy as long as you make your ears happy :D listening in style has definitive technology bipolar floor standers for around that price but they were much too bright for my ears. basta demo lang ng demo, libre naman e :) hehehe
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I am really doing demoes on floor standers for fronts. Any other suggestions? It does not have to be from sight and sound.
What floor stander is your recommendation for about 35,000 per pair ?
Parang alanganin ang 35,000 for a floor stander sa mga na-audition ko.
Either less than 30K or more than 40K.
Try creating a new topic. FS worth around 35K.
Many would be glad to throw in their suggestion.
Try asking assasin101 I think he got a quotation for Mission Speakers
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By the way what receiver would you be pairing it to?
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Hello Guys...
I have a pair of Paradigm Monitor-11 v-2 powered by Rotel RSX-1056, Pioneer DV-696av and an SVS sub and they really sounds Great!! ;D
Im planning to get a Paradigm mini monitors for my surround next year or Adp-370. does anyone know the price of ADP-370 or mini monitors? tnx!
Merrry Christmas to All!
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Hi sirs, i just want to share my personal inputs here coz i also had a chance of doing an A/B comparison of this.
Dont want to turn everything upside down or start a debate but...
Honestly i did also prefer the paradigms over the B&W's during that time but we were using a reciever that. Honestly mas maganda talaga ung tunog nya but nung nasubukan ko kasi na ang gamit e separates or may additional na power amp, mas maganda tumunog ung B&W. Feeling ko, with weaker electronics, mas maganda talaga ung paradigms but with more powerfull electronics B&W would outshine them, as for my ears are concered.
So since im planning on upgrades of a power amp in the future nag B&W ako, ayoko kasi mag upgrade ng mag upgrade, masyadong magastos.
Like what others have already said, the best option is to get the best of what you can have, then upgrade by adding equipments to improve sound and not to change your entire set-up.
hope this helps.
Just my 2 cents... :)
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Ok.....Sight and sounds and the shop next door "paradigm" are both owned by the same guy. Very nice fellow. As you may know Sights and sounds sells B&W,Wharfdale, missions,Jamo, Onkyo, Denon, Pioneer, and the rest. Paradigm promotes (prodominantly) there own gear. (And with so much good competition out there I often wondered why) Today I wanted to demo the Wharfdale Evo2-30 the b&W 603 and the Paradigm monitor 7. Sights and sound manamanagmentment tried to ge the wharf evos but could not so it was a head to head only. So we hooked up the monitor 7 on channel A and B&W on channel B. Or was it the other way around...no matter. We listened first to 2 movie segments...Hero,and daredevil switching back and forth time and time again. And according to my wife it was no contest and in my opinion she was right hands down. But before rushing to final judgment we then played in stereo mode View from the vaultII. Now this has never been a favorite show of mine ( some good moments no doubt but in general I think it is fair at best) but the quality is so clean and crisp it is great for comparison. We jammed Help>Slip>Franklins at least three times....again jumping from channel A to B constantly. The clear winner was the monitor 7. I mean honestly....the B&W was not even in the same ball park. ( In the back of my mind I am now wondering if this fight was rigged). But both salesman I spoke to previously said the monitor 7 was a better speaker. Better than the B&W and the Wharfdale
And not for nothing...but I thought the Wharf diamond 9 series I demoed a few days back sounded better than the B&W as well.
dudes....just my humble opinion. Of all the demos thus far.....am most impressed with the monitor 7.
Also demoed the paradigm ADP 370 surround and must say they sounded real good.
Maybe this is why "paradigm" chooses to predominantly sell its own gear?
Now does any one out there have the experience to tell me what they think about this head to head and are you surprized about the results?
DISCUSS!
You mentioned in one of your posts you were looking
for a speaker system which will be used for 75%HT and 25% music.
Given your preference for movies, I myself, would have chosen Paradigm
over B&W. However, there are many other cheaper alternatives to Paradigms
out there which deliver a more forceful and stronger bass, crystal clear dialog,
and biting treble sounds that really highlight the movie's special effects.
Movies are different. The goal is special effects, and maximum impact, not
accuracy.
Music is VERY much different. Those 'crystal clear' and 'biting treble sounds'
which you would like in movie sound reproduction can sound thin and
artificial and will never give you the goosebumps or 'you are there' feeling
or 'the artist is in front of you' feeling. The exaggerated bass can add
impact to movies and impress your neighbors but in music, they can
distort the balance and the soundstage of a musical passage leaving
a music recording sounding canned or artificial.
If you're like me who is into 10%HT and 90% music, you're going
to prefer the B&W over Paradigm. But then again, I can't assure
you. Our ears were created differently.
The only way to know which is better for you FOR MUSIC, is to
do a music audition (not movie audition). Try auditioning exclusively
with a wide range of music and carry with you a music checklist of
20 music tracks and see which scores better with you for audio-only
performance. If Paradigms still score better, I suggest you buy a Paradigm.
Otherwise, give B&W's and Wharfedales a try. You'll never know
what happens to your listening preferences. It will still shift especially if you
are relatively new to the hobby. As an example, before, when I bought
my first home theater in a box, my preference was for 50%-50% music
and movies. Now, I'm almost an exclusive music lover (90% music -
10% movies).
Before, I used to love the Bose sound with its 'crystal clear' vocals.
Now, I find it too thin, too raspy, and too artificial sounding for music.
Again, I'm talking about music. For movies, all you need is maximum
power, maximum impact and maximum dialog and special effects clarity.
It doesn't matter the soundstage is crappy or there is no focus or
any element of musical accuracy.
Good luck to your auditions. Just remember, once you've selected
and chosen the best speaker for your ears, for your specific
application (movies), everything else does not matter.
That includes my opinions here. :)
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Ok.....Sight and sounds and the shop next door "paradigm" are both owned by the same guy. Very nice fellow. As you may know Sights and sounds sells B&W,Wharfdale, missions,Jamo, Onkyo, Denon, Pioneer, and the rest. Paradigm promotes (prodominantly) there own gear. (And with so much good competition out there I often wondered why) Today I wanted to demo the Wharfdale Evo2-30 the b&W 603 and the Paradigm monitor 7. Sights and sound manamanagmentment tried to ge the wharf evos but could not so it was a head to head only. So we hooked up the monitor 7 on channel A and B&W on channel B. Or was it the other way around...no matter. We listened first to 2 movie segments...Hero,and daredevil switching back and forth time and time again. And according to my wife it was no contest and in my opinion she was right hands down. But before rushing to final judgment we then played in stereo mode View from the vaultII. Now this has never been a favorite show of mine ( some good moments no doubt but in general I think it is fair at best) but the quality is so clean and crisp it is great for comparison. We jammed Help>Slip>Franklins at least three times....again jumping from channel A to B constantly. The clear winner was the monitor 7. I mean honestly....the B&W was not even in the same ball park. ( In the back of my mind I am now wondering if this fight was rigged). But both salesman I spoke to previously said the monitor 7 was a better speaker. Better than the B&W and the Wharfdale
And not for nothing...but I thought the Wharf diamond 9 series I demoed a few days back sounded better than the B&W as well.
dudes....just my humble opinion. Of all the demos thus far.....am most impressed with the monitor 7.
Also demoed the paradigm ADP 370 surround and must say they sounded real good.
Maybe this is why "paradigm" chooses to predominantly sell its own gear?
Now does any one out there have the experience to tell me what they think about this head to head and are you surprized about the results?
DISCUSS!
BTW , just wondering ... what reciever /amp, cdp/dvdp did you use to audition these speakers? often times amp or reciever matching is really a big factor . All speakers can perform well if properly matched with other gears..
Just my 2 cents.....
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was a Denon recveiver....do not remember the brand but was 80 watts per channel.
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Brandon...what you say makes perfect sence and you get no argument from me here.
You mentioned in one of your posts you were looking
for a speaker system which will be used for 75%HT and 25% music.
Given your preference for movies, I myself, would have chosen Paradigm
over B&W. However, there are many other cheaper alternatives to Paradigms
out there which deliver a more forceful and stronger bass, crystal clear dialog,
and biting treble sounds that really highlight the movie's special effects.
Movies are different. The goal is special effects, and maximum impact, not
accuracy.
Music is VERY much different. Those 'crystal clear' and 'biting treble sounds'
which you would like in movie sound reproduction can sound thin and
artificial and will never give you the goosebumps or 'you are there' feeling
or 'the artist is in front of you' feeling. The exaggerated bass can add
impact to movies and impress your neighbors but in music, they can
distort the balance and the soundstage of a musical passage leaving
a music recording sounding canned or artificial.
If you're like me who is into 10%HT and 90% music, you're going
to prefer the B&W over Paradigm. But then again, I can't assure
you. Our ears were created differently.
The only way to know which is better for you FOR MUSIC, is to
do a music audition (not movie audition). Try auditioning exclusively
with a wide range of music and carry with you a music checklist of
20 music tracks and see which scores better with you for audio-only
performance. If Paradigms still score better, I suggest you buy a Paradigm.
Otherwise, give B&W's and Wharfedales a try. You'll never know
what happens to your listening preferences. It will still shift especially if you
are relatively new to the hobby. As an example, before, when I bought
my first home theater in a box, my preference was for 50%-50% music
and movies. Now, I'm almost an exclusive music lover (90% music -
10% movies).
Before, I used to love the Bose sound with its 'crystal clear' vocals.
Now, I find it too thin, too raspy, and too artificial sounding for music.
Again, I'm talking about music. For movies, all you need is maximum
power, maximum impact and maximum dialog and special effects clarity.
It doesn't matter the soundstage is crappy or there is no focus or
any element of musical accuracy.
Good luck to your auditions. Just remember, once you've selected
and chosen the best speaker for your ears, for your specific
application (movies), everything else does not matter.
That includes my opinions here. [/shadow]
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was a Denon recveiver....do not remember the brand but was 80 watts per channel.
Based on my experience an 80 watter amp is not enough for a floorstander especially on B&W( 3 drivers up). You need at least 100 w rms to make these baby sing. Tutunog siya pero manipis. But if powered enough even for HT and music, you can hear its full potential....
just my 2 cents.... ;)
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trust your ears... audition some more but eventually let your ears decide.
happy hunting!
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Toquero...you may be right?
Perhaps this fight was rigged?
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I would vote for the Paradigm mainly because they are priced reasonably here in the Philippines. With B&W, they increase the srp prices by 20% and then give you a 20% discount, you end up paying the MSRP. With the former , if they give you a 15% discount, you are really getting a great deal.
Paradigm is a sister division of Anthem/Sonic Frontier. They are considered one of the best value in the high end segment. You can't go wrong with the them. ;)
For the record: I am in no way connected with Paradigm. :D
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I am really doing demoes on floor standers for fronts. Any other suggestions? It does not have to be from sight and sound.
What floor stander is your recommendation for about 35,000 per pair ?
@dannielsimone
35K na lang ang B&W 603s3
how about Focals jmlab speakers may Sale sila ngayon if i'm not mistaken 45% off daw
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JMlab....saw them mentioned a few times in whats Hifi........lets have a review of that.
What floor stander are you recommending?
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I am really doing demoes on floor standers for fronts. Any other suggestions? It does not have to be from sight and sound.
What floor stander is your recommendation for about 35,000 per pair ?
For stereo, I can't think of a floorstander I'd buy at that price. Ipon pa ng konti - 48,000 buys you the Dali Ikon 6. Now I'd certainly consider that. It's high efficiency (tube friendly) and its got great reviews.
But kung pang HT lang, no need for B&W, pwedeng-pwede na mga floorstanders ng Wharfedale. :)
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Hi sirs, i just want to share my personal inputs here coz i also had a chance of doing an A/B comparison of this.
Dont want to turn everything upside down or start a debate but...
Honestly i did also prefer the paradigms over the B&W's during that time but we were using a reciever that. Honestly mas maganda talaga ung tunog nya but nung nasubukan ko kasi na ang gamit e separates or may additional na power amp, mas maganda tumunog ung B&W. Feeling ko, with weaker electronics, mas maganda talaga ung paradigms but with more powerfull electronics B&W would outshine them, as for my ears are concered.
So since im planning on upgrades of a power amp in the future nag B&W ako, ayoko kasi mag upgrade ng mag upgrade, masyadong magastos.
Like what others have already said, the best option is to get the best of what you can have, then upgrade by adding equipments to improve sound and not to change your entire set-up.
hope this helps.
Just my 2 cents... :)
Based on my experience an 80 watter amp is not enough for a floorstander especially on B&W( 3 drivers up). You need at least 100 w rms to make these baby sing. Tutunog siya pero manipis. But if powered enough even for HT and music, you can hear its full potential....
just my 2 cents.... ;)
I agree with ric999 and Toquero. B&Ws are power-hungry speakers but will sound great if driven well. ;D
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I agree with danniel. I also prefer the paradigm than the b&w. I listened to these speakers with an Arcam amp and cdp and I prefered the minimonitor than the 601.Moving up to the next level I prefered the studio20 than the overpriced b&w 705. Siguro pareho lang ang taste namin sa music.
Danniel
Give the new PSB image series an audition, another Canadian company.
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Hello again everyone...
I also agree to Lucky7. In my opinion, I like the Paradigm over the B&W as long as they were in the same level.
Before I bought my Paradigm Monitor-11, I'm eyeing on the B&W DM-604 s3. I auditioned them both but not side by side and I ended up on the Paradigm. But that's only for my ear... ;D Hindi naman kasi tayo parepareho ng hearing and taste diba guys...
Mura padin diyan sa atin kesa dito sa Taiwan.
Wishing You All a Blessed and Prosperous New Year!!! :D ;D :D
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Lucky 7.........The T55 tower and the surround S 50 defenitely look VERY VERY sexy and I wish I new of these speakers a few days back. BUT I again today with my wife and kids did another demo of the monitor 7 with the ADP 370 dipoles. They sounded great. So at this point I pretty much have my mind made up and am scheduling a home demo of the units. Not sure if I will use the dipole surrounds or go with the Direct firing Atom/titans . Will demo them all. The folks at Paradigm and Sights and sounds are real accomodating.
Canadians do make some great speakers!
Having said all that.....Perhaps I will go for an audition tomorrow if I have the time. I guess in park Square makati?
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Bro Danniel,
If your going to audition the Monitor 7 together with the ADP-370, Titans and the Atoms, May I suggest that don't forget to try the Mini monitors as well. I think the mini monitors were good match for the monitor 7's.
Mirage and Energy are also Canadian made speakers and they also Rocks! ;D
Good luck to you Bro! ;)
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you are 100% right in tht the mini monitor is best suited as a direct firing surround...if you are not gonna use dipoles....but....and this is a big but....I am wall mounting the surrounds and have very limited space. Now.......what many people do not know is that paradigm makes a "mini monitor wall mount" speaker. I spoke with the dealer direct about it. Unfortunately these speakers do not come with an adjustable wall mount. Flat and fixed only.
This is why I am choosing either the dipole....the Atom or the Titan. Anything bigger is gonna be a super eye sore.
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This is why I am choosing either the dipole....the Atom or the Titan. Anything bigger is gonna be a super eye sore.
i believe atom and titan are not dipoles.
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Hi dannielsimone, I too had the same delema before. I really have no idea which FS I'm going to get. Auditioning every speaker I can think of. Went to lots of AV stores. It is really hard to find an FS that would suit your listening preference. Just rescently bought an m52 and i'm very satisfied with its performance, 50% HT and 50% audio. The bass are tight and the mids are phenominal IMHO. Got it at around 31k. With your 35k budget just add a few bucks and you can get the m53 or the volare v63. Just to add, the shop that i bought the m52 even help me find the m5c center. He called up his resellers from Cebu took the stock and shipped it for me with no extra charge at my discount pa sa discounted price at deliver pa in front of my doorstep by tomorrow. Is that good service or what and you could not find a shop that can match the price he's giving. sya kasi disti. ;D ;D ;D
A well powered FS would really make a difference. Just my 2cent
http://oldsite.mission-hifi.com/index1.htm
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danniel,
Did you listen to the monitor 5? I think its more accurate than the 7 maybe because of the small cabinet but with the same drivers. Medyo wala siyang appeal dahil alanganing FS or bookshelf and you have to put them on stand.Anyway if you listen to mostly mutlichannel music the surrounds should be of the same materials/drivers as the fronts and direct firing is better in my opiinon. For HT, dipole is advisable even not the same as the front.
Congrats and goodluck. You have a very nice system.
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Voj...you are correct..my typing error there.
Yes....the dipole is the ADP 370...and the direct firing is the Atom and the Titan.
Sorry...too much X-mass cheer.
LOL
:D
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Thanx Lucky.
Am really looking for a floor stander not book shelf . I did not audition the monitor 5 for that reason. My Boss (wife) liked the beauty of there wood floor stander (monitor 7) so that was the kicker for me. Took me about 7 weeks to convince her the fronts had to be floor standers as opposed to wall mounts!! 8)
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dannielsimone what color & version of monitor 7 are you goin to get? Is it true that the blacks are Magnetically Shied...any idea? I think the latest version is 3 or 4 na yata. Please PM me the price of Monitor 7, ADP-370, Mini Monitor. Thanks very much!
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am also a digm lover over BnW. i own solid rotel gears and to think that rotel and BnW are tandem brands, i still belive that it sounded much better with the studio20 than with the 705 or even with the 805D. i find the sound of BnW thin and lacking of bass.
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Mr.H...check your messages.
Magneshield is standard in center speaker only and optional on all others.....as the specs say.
http://www.paradigm.ca/Website/SiteParadigmProduct/ParadigmModels/MonSeries/MonitorSpecs.htm#1
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So Mr.H...you thinking of getting a paradigm?
The people I am dealing with are very accomodating. Its in your message i sent you.
Do you also have a flat screen LCD, PLASMA or Rear projection?
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dannielsimone... pls check your messages.
No. I don't have fs LCD, Plasma nor R. Projection yet... maybe... soon. :-)
I already have my Monitor-11 and Im in stage of planning to get the mini monitor and cc-370.
Sayang nga last week I saw a B&W 600 (floorstanding + bookshelf package) for sale at around 13K lang here in Taipei.. pang demo ksi siya ng audio store. when I came back in the evening nabili nadaw nung afternoon lang sayang talaga...made in England pa..pde na sanang pang surrounds...
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for your budget of 35k, extend it a "little" bit more and you could get a Dali Ikon 6 (48k). I bet this is where you would have difficulty in choosing. To confuse you more in choosing the right floorstander, try the Aurum Cantus. Both Aurum and Dali are using ribbon tweeters of different spec and engineering.
I tried the B&W and Monitor 5 sa shop ng Sights. My comment on this is that napagod ako. Why? It's because and pang testing ng Sights is their Home Theater Reciever. However, I heard the Monitor 3 sa Alabang show this last Sept using another amp, but specifically for audio. At first I assumed that it would sound the same as the Monitor 5 in Sights because of the same design but difft spec. How did it sound? Warm baby ! Too bad I cant remember the brand of the amp, but definitely not a home theater receiver. Maganda tunog ng Monitor 3. As for B&W, you need a powerfull amp to make these sing as these are power hungry. An ordinary amp would do, but a powerfull amp would make it outstanding for HT.
But anyway, my point is audition the speakers using your own amplifier. It took me 5 months of Home Auditioning different speakers. And also, bawal magmadali in choosing speakers. Remember that this would be in your house for a long time... unless the upgrade itch bites.
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am pretty tired as it has been a long long day but wanted to keep you updated in "real time".
As you know I am no Audiophile and would be hard pressed to find the vocabulary to compare the products I am demoing so please put up with my novice approach.
Firstly.....a few hic ups today. Not enough speaker wire in the truck. They were to bring a spool but they only brought 20 meters when needing 25-30 . ...oh well.....
Bought some speaker brackets from perfect vision which would have been great....but the back of the atoms/titans are a polymer type resin not wood so to drill a hole was not recommended. The ADP 370 surround dipole was also of the same polymer substance on the back so again could not drill( and the bracket that the 370 comes with is not adjustable ...having said that... Never should have bought brackets in the first place as Paradigm provides a swivel bracket mount upon request for both the atom and the titan..DUH! So no worries here. Must order them. Unfortunatley for me the Paradigm supplier is closed till Jan 2 or 3
Unwrap the Onkyo and the black one I ordered turned silver ....no biggy the demo will go on!!!!
Set up the speakers with the Atom as surrounds. The titan is just a bit too big as I feared with my limited head room and space.
Unwrapped the Denon receiver and thought it looked great. Powered it up and the sound was real clean with the few CD's I played.. At 110 watts per channel I thought this baby was about to blow me out of the water but must say....it did not. ( These are CD's that I and family had listened to many a time for many a year.). System sounded real good though. Went on to some movie clips to see how the surrounds would work and they did the trick. Speakers and receiver seemed to go pretty well with each other. Played a live Rock concert on DVD which is crystal clear in respect to quality. Like the 90 watt Denon I auditioned in the paradigm shop I slowly cranked it up to full volume. Was really surprised when the volume indicator stopped moving. I was looking for the additional 10 watts you had recommended to me before). Must also say that on the highest volume the speakers seemed to break up...got muddy...and I was huffing and puffing with what I hoped was Adrenalin. Unfortunately the Adrenalin was really ....well......dissapointment. My son looked at me and said....that didn't sound to good there dad. Asked myself Why were the monitor 7's whimpering out?
Decided to give the Onkyo a try. As soon as I put on the same DVD at low levels I noticed a major difference in the body and tone of the music. Raised the volume higher and higher and as I did the smile on my face got bigger and bigger. Cranked up the music to about 90% which was louder than the Denon at full volume and had no break up or muddy sound. Clear as a bell it was. Cranked up the volume to full and it sounded real good.....no distortion at all. Tossed on the "red hot Chili peppers live at Slain Castle and it was killer. Wife and kids came right out and said the Onkyo was better for them. In my opinuion it was also better for me...big time! Very different than the Denon...much more Alive and open....and more powerful to boot. Proceeded to listen to the same CD's as before of Usher (to test the sub) some rock, and even some pop (Madonna for the wife) and it was all kick Asssss take no prisoners.
Am happy with the Paradigm speakers and am pleased with the Onkyo. The combo to "my ears" seems to be the "REAL DEAL"!
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danniel,
Did you listen to the monitor 5? I think its more accurate than the 7 maybe because of the small cabinet but with the same drivers. Medyo wala siyang appeal dahil alanganing FS or bookshelf and you have to put them on stand.Anyway if you listen to mostly mutlichannel music the surrounds should be of the same materials/drivers as the fronts and direct firing is better in my opiinon. For HT, dipole is advisable even not the same as the front.
Congrats and goodluck. You have a very nice system.
After more considration I did go with direct firing surrounds as it does serve music very well. Went with the Atoms.
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for your budget of 35k, extend it a "little" bit more and you could get a Dali Ikon 6 (48k). I bet this is where you would have difficulty in choosing. To confuse you more in choosing the right floorstander, try the Aurum Cantus. Both Aurum and Dali are using ribbon tweeters of different spec and engineering.
I tried the B&W and Monitor 5 sa shop ng Sights. My comment on this is that napagod ako. Why? It's because and pang testing ng Sights is their Home Theater Reciever. However, I heard the Monitor 3 sa Alabang show this last Sept using another amp, but specifically for audio. At first I assumed that it would sound the same as the Monitor 5 in Sights because of the same design but difft spec. How did it sound? Warm baby ! Too bad I cant remember the brand of the amp, but definitely not a home theater receiver. Maganda tunog ng Monitor 3. As for B&W, you need a powerfull amp to make these sing as these are power hungry. An ordinary amp would do, but a powerfull amp would make it outstanding for HT.
But anyway, my point is audition the speakers using your own amplifier. It took me 5 months of Home Auditioning different speakers. And also, bawal magmadali in choosing speakers. Remember that this would be in your house for a long time... unless the upgrade itch bites.
5 months of home auditioning and you ended up with a system that was TOTALLY different from what you initially planned hahaha...
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May I know where Sights and Sounds is located? I would like to audition these speakers head to head too! Thanks
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May I know where Sights and Sounds is located? I would like to audition these speakers head to head too! Thanks
sigths and sounds are at the fourth floor shangrila plaza ( next to mega mall)
paradigm store is next door
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Wondering if they have BW602S3 to compare with the Paradigm Monitor 8. May I know the best person to look for?
thanks,
Skee
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Wondering if they have BW602S3 to compare with the Paradigm Monitor 8. May I know the best person to look for?
thanks,
Skee
Speak to salesman Paul or Arnold regarding stock.....but the owner Victor chua is the man to discuss prices.
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5 months of home auditioning and you ended up with a system that was TOTALLY different from what you initially planned hahaha...
OT: Thank you pala for all your recommendation. Now I always go home without intending to upgrade my set up because of the great music is provides.
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OT: Thank you pala for all your recommendation. Now I always go home without intending to upgrade my set up because of the great music is provides.
ows?
peace ;D
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Wondering if they have BW602S3 to compare with the Paradigm Monitor 8. May I know the best person to look for?
thanks,
Skee
Just an advice...
When you compare the Paradigm and the B&W, don't listen at unrealistic 'soft' volume levels.
Salesmen usually do this to impress you and hide a speaker's limitations because most speakers
sound 'composed' and 'in control' when the volume is low. :)
It's when the going gets tough (at moderate to high volumes) that speakers show their
'true colors'... :)
Again, always listen at your TYPICAL AVERAGE listening volume (the way you would at home)
and also at your TYPICAL HIGHEST listening volume (the way you would at home, taking
into consideration your room size). You'll be glad you did before making a choice... :)
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Just an advice...
When you compare the Paradigm and the B&W, don't listen at unrealistic 'soft' volume levels.
Salesmen usually do this to impress you and hide a speaker's limitations because most speakers
sound 'composed' and 'in control' when the volume is low. :)
It's when the going gets tough (at moderate to high volumes) that speakers show their
'true colors'... :)
Again, always listen at your TYPICAL AVERAGE listening volume (the way you would at home)
and also at your TYPICAL HIGHEST listening volume (the way you would at home, taking
into consideration your room size). You'll be glad you did before making a choice... :)
Those are very wise words brandon. I go one step further and push the volume to very high levels. Lets see where and when the speakers start to distort if at all.
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Thanks for the advice guys ;) Just wondering if dealers will allow cranking of volumes to the point of distortion. One thing I cant simulate is the size of my listenning room.Hope to audition at Sights and sounds within the week.
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Thanks for the advice guys ;) Just wondering if dealers will allow cranking of volumes to the point of distortion. One thing I cant simulate is the size of my listenning room.Hope to audition at Sights and sounds within the week.
The cranking to very high levels was done more so at my home demo but also did some ear shattering demoes at sights and sounds/paradigm.
Level of distortion or very loud levels are those which I rarely approach during home listening but the idea is you would rather get to that level before buying. No need to get a surprize when listening to your favorite jam and not being able to push the envelope.
Always bring your own DVD/CD for demo.
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Whoa, I do hope those units are already "break in". Kawawa naman yung bibili :D
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BnWs are known to be power hungry speakers, most especially the 700 and 800 series..yes they do sound really good but you need a powerful amp to realize their full potentials. on the other hand, digms are very easy to drive and they would really sing very well if driven at loud volume levels (im speaking particularly for the reference line). if i were to express my own opinion, i find the BnWs thin sounding and there is a little bit of harshness in the upper registers if driven by a low powered amp at higher volume levels...digms however has the bass authority over BnWs, their upper registers may tend to sound a bit sharp but still smooth even with a low power amp. personally, i am leaning towards the SQ of digms over the BnWs.
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Auditioned the Paradigm Monitor 7 and BW 603 at S n S yesterday. We had to make do with an Onkyo SS amp as no tube amp was available for demo. Both speakers sounded good. The M7 had a deeper bass and was a bit tight, while the BWs were more mellow and brighter on the highs.The M7s were less than a month on the stage, while the BW were 6 mos old. The A n B speaker system could not be used for some reason. We tried female vocals and bossa nova music due to personal preference.Good sound stage for either.
The M7 s has an edge pricewise. Quote was 37t as against 41t for the BW. Final prices to be given by Mr Chua. I have to bring my tube amp for better appreciation. The M7s have a 93db sensitivity, while the BWs 90db. As mentioned in a previous thread, the BWs are power hungry. This might be a factor, as my amps have low outputs.(35 watts EL34,and 25 watts EL84 push pull, and 300b 12watts single ended).
Will have to audition the Dali speakers too, prior to any decision. Thanks for all the info and feedback :)
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how much kaya monitor 3 and 5 na bookshelf? The next thing I want is a Monitor 3 head to head with an Epos M12.2. ;)
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Just my 2 cents worth...
When auditioning speakers it would be best if done under a controlled environment meanining - same room, same amp, same player, same cables, same volume and same song. Then you can proceed to conduct an A-B-A test just to be sure. Not a lot of emphasis is given to the room but it does make a HUGE difference. Happy auditioning :)
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if i were to express my own opinion, i find the BnWs thin sounding and there is a little bit of harshness in the upper registers if driven by a low powered amp at higher volume levels...digms however has the bass authority over BnWs, their upper registers may tend to sound a bit sharp but still smooth even with a low power amp. personally, i am leaning towards the SQ of digms over the BnWs.
This just goes to show that beauty in music reproduction
really is in the ears of the listener. :)
Between Paradigm and B&W, I'd choose B&W anytime. :)
I actually find Paradigms (from my auditions in the past)
not only 'forward' sounding, but sometimes, rather
'strident' especially when driven at moderate
to high volumes.
By 'strident', I mean, they have an 'in your face',
'over-forwardness' quality of sound presentation
especially when driven at moderate to high volumes
(even if sufficiently powered).
At low volumes, Paradigms sound marvelous
with that 'B&W-kind' of 'finesse' in the midrange.
At moderate to high listening volumes however,
they can get to be irritatingly 'strident'
(over forward midrange sound) with ear-piercing
treble/highs.
B&W's generally maintain the balance
all the way to the 'Are you nuts?' high volumes. :)
Actually, if anybody thinks B&W's sound 'bright'
and 'forward', wait till he listens to Paradigms
driven at moderate to high volume levels. ;)
I also tend to find Paradigms a little 'clinical' sounding rather
than 'warm'. By clinical, I mean 'cold' and 'artificial'
with exaggerated bass, too much treble 'detail', and an
excessive treble bite, as well as an 'extra crisp',
'in your face' midrange (which reminds me of Bose's midrange).
Overall, good for movies, where you want 'bass impact',
'razor-sharp treble', and 'midrange crispness and clarity'.
As for music applications, it just doesn't perform as well
as B&W's (at least for me, who is into 90% music, 10% movies).
Anyway, this is just an opinion so others listening experiences
with Paradigms may vary. By the way, I just had my annual
audiometric test and got a normal 20dB-20dB hearing for the
10th consecutive year. (I suggest all audiophiles here should
do so as our hobby is high risk for hearing damage.) :)
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Between Paradigm and B&W, I'd choose B&W anytime. :)
By the way, I just had my annual
audiometric test and got a normal 20dB-20dB hearing for the
10th consecutive year. (I suggest all audiophiles here should
do so as our hobby is high risk for hearing damage.) :)
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Good idea brandon, but how did u do it? do you have audio testing machine at home or went to a doctor?
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Good idea brandon, but how did u do it? do you have audio testing machine at home or went to a doctor?
I actually went to our company clinic because it is mandatory for us in our company. ;D
The audiometric test is conducted annually at my workplace because certain areas
of our workplace have noise levels as high as 120 -130 dB (C-weighted).
Some of my colleagues who refuse to wear hearing protection have impaired hearing.
They can only hear 35dB and up which means they can't hear a whisper or soft conversation
(which is around 20-30dB) and have trouble talking over the phone or talking to someone
with normal hearing. 10dB is like the rustle of leaves in a breeze; you can only
hear it when the noise level in the audiometric testing room is below 10dB so 20-25dB is
the usual normal.
You can also visit your ENT doctor for audiometric testing if he has the equipment.
Otherwise, he'll usually refer you to another specialist or an institution who has one.
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I'm thinking of downgrading from 8.4 (with 8.center,8.dfs)
to an 8.1 or 9.1
Any thoughts on which one is better (8.1 or 9.1)?
I'm specially interested in comments from those who have A,B both speakers.
Like this one:
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=39432.1260
Thanks
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bro 9.1 kana atleast mas bagong model
konting konti lang kasi price diff. niyan eh
i think mas mahal lang ng 500php yung 9.1 sa 8.1
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Thanks, but the price or age of the model is irrelevant to me...
I don't mind paying more for better quality....but
will limit the selection to either 9.1 or 8.1
bro 9.1 kana atleast mas bagong model
konting konti lang kasi price diff. niyan eh
i think mas mahal lang ng 500php yung 9.1 sa 8.1
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I finally got my answer :D
I managed to A-B the 8.1 with the 9.1 with the same receiver (yamaha 459)
Three of us there all agreed:
That the 8.1 was more alive, warmer, easier to listen to than the 9.1 in vocals (nora jones) and instrumentals (such as piano). It confirms why most people on the net still prefer the award winning 8.1 over the 9.1
Nope, nothing to do with break-in...both speakers are old enough.
9.1 is prettier though, but a bit lacking in the highs... a little dull compared
to the 8.1
Does anyone want to sell their 8.1 to me, perhaps with the stands?
I prefer black. :)
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this may be of help.
http://www.ebay.ph/viItem?ItemId=150104472280
i just happened to browsed through this link on ebay selling wharfedale 8.1 and 8.2.
;) goodluck!
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alright! thanks for the tip!... medyo mahal siya... brand new is P3740...I'll have have to negotiate. :D
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oonga mahal kailangan mag haggle!
i had a couple of transactions din at ebay wherein di na ko nag bibid tinatawaran ko rin kasi...so far accommodating naman sila kaya successful.
goodluck hope you get it!
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sir ericag_ph are you selling your 8.4?
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I thought about that :D
I think I'll keep them (8.4)...seems the 8 series (8.1) are easier to drive than the 9 series (9.1). I'll just use the 8.1 as "B" speakers...
The guy on ebay is still thinking about my offer (P3K)... I might have to buy new ones (non-black 8.1) at P3740...
Though I am thinking of selling my Bose AM10 series II (5 satellites plus passive bass unit - beside the larger velodyne sw) ;D at maybe P25K (original price = P44K+) so I can get a new receiver for the 2nd setup. See the "small satellites" on top of the 8.4 floorstanders. http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=55046.0
sir ericag_ph are you selling your 8.4?
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On a side note, I am now able to A+B the 8.1 and 8.4 in the same room with
the same receiver (Yamaha RXV2095)
For Music, 8.1 wins without a doubt (I bought the 24-bit CD of Audiophile Voices I,II,III,IV just for the 8.1 :D ).
However, if I were still starting out in this hobby (didn't have a velo sub back then), I'd still get the 8.4 for HT use, just for the bass.
...between 8.4 and 9.5....hmmm..hard to make this comparison fair... I run the 8.4 on an RXV2095 in my home theater room, and only heard/demo the 9.5 (brand new) through an RXV459 in a shop ... but remembering what I heard, 8.4 sounded a lot better, the 9.5 boomy (hard on my ears).
PS. I got my 8.1 through cybermms (cyber) at P3400, brand new. I got my speaker stands from ace hardware (P2400 per pair).
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just adding some more info on 8.1
the speakers sound fantastic --depending on the music you play on it.
if music is vocals+instrumental (like piano, guitar, nora jones, audiophile voices) then its fantastic...
if music is rock, michael jackson...then bass is anemic of course...you will need a subwoofer with the 8.1
so if for HT use... you will definitely need a subw.
This applies to the 9.1 as well.
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just adding some more info on 8.1
the speakers sound fantastic --depending on the music you play on it.
if music is vocals+instrumental (like piano, guitar, nora jones, audiophile voices) then its fantastic...
if music is rock, michael jackson...then bass is anemic of course...you will need a subwoofer with the 8.1
so if for HT use... you will definitely need a subw.
This applies to the 9.1 as well.
I agree with you on this. I bought a used 8.1 about a month ago for my father-in-law's audio set-up. I gave him my sansui aud607f extra vintage amp and it sounds great. Mids are clear, highs are sweet, imaging is great, and depending on placement, bass is very decent for a bookshelf. ;D
I also agree with you that: more expensive and newer is not always better. It still depends on equipment matching and proper set-up (room acoustics).
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i have a harman kardon 335 reciever and i dont know which speaker is better to match my set up.
just the fronts...
my choices are bnew b&w 602s3 25k or 2nd hand (from pinoydvd) mission m53 floorstander for 31k(bnew is 52k)? which is a better choice?
im goin for audio then ht
does it mater if i get a hk 335 or just 240?
thanks
thinking if goin b&w all the way or mission all the way
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Try to audition the Aurum Cantus leisure 2SV at Audio Amplified located at Unit 3 and 4, 2nd Floor Madison Square Bldg, Libis, QC. 395-5115
Cheers
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both b&w and mission are good speakers, i've heard the 602 and the m53, for me, the mission sounds brighter than the b&w, so it depends on your taste of listening.
for me. i prefer the b&w.
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I would just like to suggest a 25k alternative ... the Monitor Audio RS1
you have to listen to all of them before deciding.
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my choices are bnew b&w 602s3 25k or 2nd hand (from pinoydvd) mission m53 floorstander for 31k(bnew is 52k)? which is a better choice?
im goin for audio then ht
does it mater if i get a hk 335 or just 240?
Always get the best receiver your money can buy.
If you like extended highs (tinggggg!) get the Missions, they match well w/ the HK's IMO (used to own HK630 plus M52's). I feel that the B&W's have great mids but roll off its highs & so did many that I have talked to. For the looks, Mission M5's have my vote. Also awesome in HT when you feed it well (bi-amped mine).
But like they say, to each his own. We all have our own preferences. Both are good speakers & only your ears will know w/c one is the winner for you.
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har, both BnW and MS are good speakers. what makes them bad are the gears that you would be using to drive them. HKs are known to sound quite dull as opposed to the bright character of marantz gears. for BnW, the HK might go well but definitely not with MS. marantz on the other hand would surely go well with MS but might sound too fatiguing with BnW. again, choose either MS or BnW and pair it with the proper electronics...you wont go wrong with either speaker brands..personally, i would go with MS..i own the MS502thx floorstanders with active subs. they were superb performers in both music and ht. a BnW model to perform this good would cost 3x its price.
Sobrang late na ata pero...
Bro, how much did your MS 502THX cost you? And where did you bought it?
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ABOUT 2 YRS AGO AT 5TH AVENUE SHANGRILA MALL IN EDSA, SRP WAS 39T. WAS ABLE TO GET IT CASH FOR 36T. I BELIVE THEYRE NOW OFFERING IT ON INSTALLMENT TERMS KAYA LANG WL NA YATANG DECLARATION SERIES...PURO AVANT SERIES NA LANG (CHINA ASSEMBLED)
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ABOUT 2 YRS AGO AT 5TH AVENUE SHANGRILA MALL IN EDSA, SRP WAS 39T. WAS ABLE TO GET IT CASH FOR 36T. I BELIVE THEYRE NOW OFFERING IT ON INSTALLMENT TERMS KAYA LANG WL NA YATANG DECLARATION SERIES...PURO AVANT SERIES NA LANG (CHINA ASSEMBLED)
Ano ba ang pagkakaiba ng Declaration Series sa Avant Series? In your opinion, which would you value more between the two?
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the declaration series are the original, england made units which comes in only 2 colors, black or cherry.
the avant series is the exact cone of the declaration series and are being made in china. it comes with a third color option, maple. of course they sound the same and they cost the same(i wonder why?)...anyway, they both look beatiful. u wont regret owning them. they are monsters of HT bro!
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the declaration series are the original, england made units which comes in only 2 colors, black or cherry.
the avant series is the exact cone of the declaration series and are being made in china. it comes with a third color option, maple. of course they sound the same and they cost the same(i wonder why?)...anyway, they both look beatiful. u wont regret owning them. they are monsters of HT bro!
For HT, isa sa mga nasa wishlist ko ito... because of its built-in subwoofer. If paired with my DefTech CLR2300 center na may subwoofer din... malamang na well-satisfied ako sa LF.
How are their performance naman with regards to music?
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not so fitted for music...unless its a disco or rock music. the mids and highs are a bit rolled off. u may need a bright sounding set of gears to make it come to life...with marantz it could work for music as well. overall, its a good speaker. you just need to find the right gears to make it sing.
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hi,
has anyone tried these sets of speakers? Im interested in using it for 2-ch audio only.
your comments/suggestions will be highly appreciated, also best amp to pair it with. ;D
thank you! ;D
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When I was looking for my speakers, I tried the Cobalt (used w/ an arcam) but it didnt awe me.
I installed a MA S6 for my brother in law. it was great.
But still audition for yourself is still the key, as opinions are subjective.
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Which one is better? Wharfe Diamond 9.1 or Wharfe MFM3? Any comments or reviews about each of the speakers mentioned? Thanks. :)
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bro MFM3 user din me galing kay sir simple,im using it for music,once sinubok ko din sa HT and ok din sha,ganda tumunog and ung bass nya maganda na sa tingin ko eh hindi kayang ibigay ng BS speaker,and kung ma search mo sa audio review ang price range nya ay 800usd which is ka presyo nya ung 9.6 and 9.5. hindi naman cguro nla ipapantay ung price nla kung hind quality din ang MFM3.kumbaga napag lumaan na lang ng model.kaya kunin mo na ung last pair ni sir simple baka magsisi ka pa pag naunahan ka.for the price sobrang sulit na din.
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thanks sa reply.. oo nga mag papa-sked ako kay sir simple for demO.. kase nung nag demo ako ng Wharfedale Diamond 9.1, impress din ako doon eh.. gaano ba kataas bro ang MFM3? pag nakaupo ka sa sofa, ear level lng ba yung woofer nia at tweeter or baka mataas pa? and if youd dont mind, ano po yung HT setup nio? thanks.. :)
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Your best bet.. listen with your ears ::)
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34" plus spikes mga bale 35"total height.am using yamaha rxv-550 6.1.my MFM3 connected to the B of my avr and also conneted a passive subwoofer cerwin vega 10"250 watts,that was my music set-up.for my HT set-up naman front 160watts pioneer S-HF9 tower,center is 100watts audio acoustic euro 6(due for upgarde),rear is 120watts BS pioneer S-ST05,surround back wharfedale Modus2,and lastly DTX4.15 na hindi ko nabili sa group buy kc i just started this hobby after the group buy i bought it for 7.5k mid august ata.kaya i accumulated all of this mga 2 months pa lang.plyer ko is pioneer dv300s and hyundai premier 98 pro dvd videoke.
tip ko lang sa yo,wag ka magmadali sa pag set-up para d masayang pera sa kakaup-grade.parang ako madami din nasayang kakamadali.
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@rxv
pro mahirap kc i compare ung 2 speaker sets kung hindi available at the same time.
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Hello ang haba nitong thread, hard to read thru everything hehe.. Just a quick question, Im new in sounds. How is the Diamond 9.5 ba yun, fronts ba ito? What combination can you guys suggest. Fronts, center, rear..My problem I have polk audio small satellites type and my prob is lakas ng explosion and mahina ang salita. I tried adjusting speaker volume, its ok naman but still little soft on the vocals.. Hows the review on Wharfedale. Will this be big improvement over my polks... Im also checking other brands thanks
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@rxv
pro mahirap kc i compare ung 2 speaker sets kung hindi available at the same time.
Kaya punta na kay sir simple para maaudition na ang MFM3! Hehe ;)
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Hello ang haba nitong thread, hard to read thru everything hehe.. Just a quick question, Im new in sounds. How is the Diamond 9.5 ba yun, fronts ba ito? What combination can you guys suggest. Fronts, center, rear..My problem I have polk audio small satellites type and my prob is lakas ng explosion and mahina ang salita. I tried adjusting speaker volume, its ok naman but still little soft on the vocals.. Hows the review on Wharfedale. Will this be big improvement over my polks... Im also checking other brands thanks
Ito yung Wharfedale 9.5 (Floorstander)
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/images/range_models/range_3/model_15/finish_10/thumb_1.jpg)
Ito naman yung Wharfedale 9.1 (Bookshelf)
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/images/range_models/range_3/model_11/finish_10/thumb_1.jpg)
Both are front speakers. It depends on your needs and budget kung ano gusto mo. Of course, mas mahal ang floorstanders. The SRP of 9.5 is around P12,500 i think, while the 9.1 is P5,500, bnew.
Ito naman yung Wharfedale 9CS (Center speaker) around P4,500
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/images/range_models/range_3/model_82/finish_10/thumb_1.jpg)
As for rear, try looking for either Wharfedale Diamond 9.DFS (4,500) or Wharfedale WH-2 surround (mas mura, P2,800)
May post dito ng Wharfedale speakers at the speaker section, research ka na lang. :)
Kung hindi kaya ang large explosions, baka nahihirapan satellites mo. Pagdating naman ng vocals (salita), role na yun ng center speaker (mids). May AV receiver ka na ba?
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Hello ang haba nitong thread, hard to read thru everything hehe.. Just a quick question, Im new in sounds. How is the Diamond 9.5 ba yun, fronts ba ito? What combination can you guys suggest. Fronts, center, rear..My problem I have polk audio small satellites type and my prob is lakas ng explosion and mahina ang salita. I tried adjusting speaker volume, its ok naman but still little soft on the vocals.. Hows the review on Wharfedale. Will this be big improvement over my polks... Im also checking other brands thanks
in my experience with HTIBs or even those systems that are bundled (sub + sats) they don't deliver much power especially in a relatively large room... just wana ask, does ur system have a center speaker?
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Ito yung Wharfedale 9.5 (Floorstander)
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/images/range_models/range_3/model_15/finish_10/thumb_1.jpg)
Ito naman yung Wharfedale 9.1 (Bookshelf)
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/images/range_models/range_3/model_11/finish_10/thumb_1.jpg)
Both are front speakers. It depends on your needs and budget kung ano gusto mo. Of course, mas mahal ang floorstanders. The SRP of 9.5 is around P12,500 i think, while the 9.1 is P5,500, bnew.
Ito naman yung Wharfedale 9CS (Center speaker) around P4,500
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/images/range_models/range_3/model_82/finish_10/thumb_1.jpg)
As for rear, try looking for either Wharfedale Diamond 9.DFS (4,500) or Wharfedale WH-2 surround (mas mura, P2,800)
May post dito ng Wharfedale speakers at the speaker section, research ka na lang. :)
Kung hindi kaya ang large explosions, baka nahihirapan satellites mo. Pagdating naman ng vocals (salita), role na yun ng center speaker (mids). May AV receiver ka na ba?
Hello, thanks very much, Ya have a receiver its Kenwood krf-x9060d, It has sticker 100wx2. I dont know what that means hehe. Im not really good in sounds.. I wanna make speaker upgrade muna sana..Then sana in future hdmi receiver..Cheap ones lang
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in my experience with HTIBs or even those systems that are bundled (sub + sats) they don't deliver much power especially in a relatively large room... just wana ask, does ur system have a center speaker?
Hello ya, It comes with front, center, rears and sub..I think its the polk audio 6500's
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Sir HTIB ba yung amp iyo? Kung HTIB kasi, I don't think na mapopower niya ng husto ang mga wharfdale speakers.
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Sir HTIB ba yung amp iyo? Kung HTIB kasi, I don't think na mapopower niya ng husto ang mga wharfdale speakers.
Sorry what is HTIB, Im new in this hehe. Meron lang thx logo sa harap
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Home theater in box.un ung madalas naka package pag bumili ka ng lcd tv,may player and avr combined,tapos may kasamang maliliit na sattelites speakers.
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Home theater in box.un ung madalas naka package pag bumili ka ng lcd tv,may player and avr combined,tapos may kasamang maliliit na sattelites speakers.
ah ok thanks, no my kenwood is those standalone talaga..
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just want to have some advise mga bro. i want to replace our old bose 301 with wharf diamond 9.3 , Guys, do u think i made the right decision? my old bose 301 is still working but with scratches. gusto ko lang maiba naman. anybody have tried wharfe 9.3 for music? hows d audio clarity and detail? my music type: alternative,acoustic,and jazz. both speakers have d same 8'' woofer and same bookshelf type. i will use it more in music and sometimes karaoke. need your help mga gurus
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my father in law uses the latest model bose 301 paired with a marantz amp; imho, i find the bose 301 too bright sounding, i feel the tweeters are way out of control. the bass is thin and the mids are basically so-so.
the new bose 301 is priced at 18k bnew. no contest, the diamond 9.3 is better value for money. and bose has always been what it is, nice to have but has no value.
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I presonally prefer Wafe 9.1 or 9.3 than Bo-301 whatever the price tag....
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Hi there and welcome to pdvd. I also had the same situation last year.
I wanted to have my first sound system setup but I don't really have HT in mind. I've always thought that Bose 301 with their new series would be the best deal for me.
I then tried to audition some other speaker brands, checked reviews and I even researched about the different materials used for speaker construction and how they affect the sonic quality for each.
To make the long story short I began to see and hear other speakers from different manufacturers which made a huge difference with the Bose 301 series IV.
Let me site you an example, the Bose 301, if you look into the back, is having spring clips which is known to be the worse kind of terminal connectors for speakers. :( Whereas the Diamond 9.3 uses a gorgeously made gold plated 5-way binding post connection which will ensure the best connection from the speaker wire to the speaker itself.
Bose also does not post specs for their product, they also use paper cone which is relatively a cheaper material than the Kevlar cone drivers used in the Wharfies...
And oh please don't mention the price difference...
PS. i'm now a very happy owner of the Wharfedale diamond 9 series.. Sounds very good for me.
Cheers!! :D
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I've also heard the bose 301 and it's just so-so, it sounds just like Konzert and Crown speakers of similar design found in Raon. I like wharfe better, it's warm and suits music well. :)
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audition the 9.3 first, although id rather spend my money on that than the 301, it still sounded a little "ngongo" for my taste.
why not 9.1/9.2?
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I had a Bose 301 as part of my first HT set-up and after a year of use I gave it na lang to my brother. In my experience you can buy a better sounding speaker at a lower cost ;D
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salamat sa mga reply nyo guys, bye bye 301 na cguro me hehehe! sino pa may wharf 9.3 d2? share nyo nman pls..
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Buti na lang decided ka na. Akala ko iki-convince pa kita e.
To add lang - bose uses a relatively old technology on their speakers, their direct reflecting churva :D :D :D
Nice to know if you are not familiar with other speakers.
Enjoy! ;)
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My entire HT set-up consists of all Wharfs and I am very satisfied with the SQ that it gives me!!! :P I highly recommend it! ;D
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salamat sa mga reply nyo guys, bye bye 301 na cguro me hehehe! sino pa may wharf 9.3 d2? share nyo nman pls..
Pa-aampon mo ba 301 mo, pm ka lang he he
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i have a bose 301 series 2, my father had them nung 80's pa ata. they sound relatively good considering their age(nice kick sa bass pero maarte sa placement). i use them as front speakers dati pero hnde na ngaun kasi matindi na un sira ng mga tweeters. Pero gusto ko performance nila sa HT, and sa percussion music. I tried calling bose tapos i asked kung pede iparepair to brand new condition, pede daw kaya lang if i remember it right, mga 18K ata gagastusin! bwisit sila! haha. But If i could save them at a much lower cost ipapagawa ko sila. sayang dn kasi... para sakin Since series 2 hnde na masyado maganda un mga sumunod na 301's, sabay ang mahal pa! haha
Anyways, 9.3's are fine pero i prefer 9.1 or 9.2 in terms of musicality and overall satisfaction.=) goodluck!!
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sir caloy thanks. hanep 18k for d repair? parang bumili ka na rin ng bago :o.
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have benedict repair them for you. pm mo nlang sha.
18k ang px ng newest series na 301. rip-off talaga.
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Hi Guys!
If I may share... Naka setup ako ngayon wharfe 9.1 and Bose 301. Yung Wharfe gamit ko sa HT and Audio. Yung Bose pag videoke, para kahit biritan na ok lang... :)
I agree with the one poster na medyo out of control nga ang tweeters ng bose... Well, yun lang din na pansin ko.. I'm not an audiophile, gusto ko lang maganda tunog ng mga pinanunuod ko at pinakikinggan. And for me, Wharfe sounds better.
Thanks!
Archiep
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bro,
need advice, gusto ko bumili speakers system for Home Theater pinamimilian ko
JM lab Chorus 800 series or JBL Studio L series its almost the same price. my AVR- is Denon 2808
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bro,
need advice, gusto ko bumili speakers system for Home Theater pinamimilian ko
JM lab Chorus 800 series or JBL Studio L series its almost the same price. my AVR- is Denon 2808
bro, if youll be sure that this dedicated set up will be used only for HT forever, and the price of both speakers are about the same, choose the prettier finish :)
but if you plan to make use of this system later on for audio as well, this will be a longer discussion...perhaps other better(in terms of sound) options could be considered.
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If for HT only, I would trust JBL's.
I love to the clean wall hung look of the studio L series!
(http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=363&%3bstc=1&%3bd=1116880000)
I auditioned them already, great for HT!
If you want to use your setup for music: simply wall hang all your 5 JBL studio L speakers connect to your receiver. Then get floorstanders that are popular for music and connect them to speaker B of your receiver for stereo! This way you can keep upgrading your audio speakers w/o worrying about selling your center & surrounds!
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Try Atlantic Technology. They can be costly but they were really built w/ HT in mind. Great speakers!
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bro,
need advice, gusto ko bumili speakers system for Home Theater pinamimilian ko
JM lab Chorus 800 series or JBL Studio L series its almost the same price. my AVR- is Denon 2808
The way to choose is to audition the speakers with the Denon 2808.
A friend of mine has a Denon 2808 and JM Lab speakers. The audio quality is incredibly good. Perfect match.
I haven't heard the JBL Studio L with the Denon 2808 so I can't comment on that.
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AV driver distributes both denon and JM lab.
I'd go for JM lab as they are also good for Audio( but of course it depends on your taste). I believe Superman is selling a pair of JM lab chorus 806v(latest chorus line) you might want to check it out. PM him. ;)
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If for HT only, I would trust JBL's.
I love to the clean wall hung look of the studio L series!
(http://www.ixbt.com/dvd/dvd-itogi/062005/jbl-Studio-L.jpg)
I auditioned them already, great for HT!
If you want to use your setup for music: simply wall hang all your 5 JBL studio L speakers connect to your receiver. Then get floorstanders that are popular for music and connect them to speaker B of your receiver for stereo! This way you can keep upgrading your audio
speakers w/o worrying about selling your center & surrounds!
thanks for your advised , i already auditioned JBL Studio L speakers its great for movie, it sound owesome, i like the Ultra High Frequency a lot of details and bilis tumunog. maybe within the week i audition the JM lab at AVDI.
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natural sounding yung high frequencies ng JBL ime hindi O.A ;D
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natural sounding yung high frequencies ng JBL ime hindi O.A ;D
Hehe. Biased! ;D ;D
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If for HT only, I would trust JBL's.
I love to the clean wall hung look of the studio L series!
(http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=363&%3bstc=1&%3bd=1116880000)
I auditioned them already, great for HT!
If you want to use your setup for music: simply wall hang all your 5 JBL studio L speakers connect to your receiver. Then get floorstanders that are popular for music and connect them to speaker B of your receiver for stereo! This way you can keep upgrading your audio speakers w/o worrying about selling your center & surrounds!
Sir Matz,
Hope you don't mind, ask ko lang kung saan nyo na audition JBL Studio Series?
Local Distributor / Audio Stores of JBL,
Pa PM po ng prices nyo ng 5.1 JBL Studio Series for the following:
4 X L820
1 X LC2
1 X 8400p
---------------- or
4 x L830
1 X LC1
1 X 8400P
Thanks in advance!
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Megamall. using HK 600 series.
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Hehe. Biased! ;D ;D
Totoo naman eh di ba ;) ;D
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Totoo naman eh di ba ;) ;D
Yup. JBL is one of the most respected and sophisticated speaker manufacturers. That's why their speakers are in the best theaters in the world ... including the theater of ricky ... and mine. ;D
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Which of the 3 following brands would you choose ?
considering the price and the preformance ?
might get one of these brands for our HT setup .
Thanks ! ;D
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Which of the 3 following brands would you choose ?
considering the price and the preformance ?
might get one of these brands for our HT setup .
Thanks ! ;D
Bose - this brand is way overpriced and, if you search the forum, there were already a lot of discussion (not to mention Bose-bashing) regarding this brand. Suffice it to say, this is not a popular brand in this forum. ;D
Wharfedale - if you are just starting out and you have limited budget, this brand gives you an unbeatable price/performance ratio. A lot of the members, including me ;D, have very good experience with this brand.
Mordaunt Short is also a good brand and also has quite a number of following here, although I don't have any firsthand experience with it.
As you will often read in this forum, the key in choosing the best speaker for you is to "audition" it preferably with the receiver or amp you are considering. Some speakers sound best with some particular amp or receiver -- synergy between the two contributes to a good sounding set-up, at least for a start. ;D
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Hands down ill choose the Wharfes ;) the 9 series looks so cool, and for the price you can complete a 7.1 setup with ease. Its NOT just for BEGINNERS anymore ESPECIALLY IF YOU USE POWER AMPS TO DRIVE IT ;) ;) ;)
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Once upon a time I was choosing which one to get and both MS and Wharf were on my list but not Bose. After countless hours of auditioning, in the end I went for the Wharfs.
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i guess sir jairus, sir ricky and the great jojoD gave good key points...
medyo OT naman ako if budget is your concern. i just want to give you more options...nung nagstart kasi ako sa hobby na ito naging impulse buyer ako and was not aware that there are other brands to choose from.
so why not also audition
Tannoy Mercury speakers there are new old stocks at discounted prices at yupangco which you may want to check-out. they are selling per piece - http://www.yupangco.com/services/aboutus/newsroom/2008/01/011607-tannoy/index.php
aurum cantus - there are models in the same price range.
and also Monitor Audio (medyo mas mattas ng kaunti ang presyo) - PM butch_HT of "the home theater" he may be able to give you good prices for this brand.
goodluck!
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Thanks for the replies . The brands i chose were only the brands i saw in various shops here in our city (davao) so i have limited choices only .
:D .
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Hi Jason (Bai!)
Have been a happy wharfedale user for some time. In fact just got me Diamond 9.1's over the weekend:)
Good luck on your search ;D
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Once upon a time I was choosing which one to get and both MS and Wharf were on my list but not Bose. After countless hours of auditioning, in the end I went for the Wharfs.
Hands down ill choose the Wharfes ;) the 9 series looks so cool, and for the price you can complete a 7.1 setup with ease. Its NOT just for BEGINNERS anymore ESPECIALLY IF YOU USE POWER AMPS TO DRIVE IT ;) ;) ;)
Totally agree with Sirs Ricky & Jojo. IMHO, Wharfs are more than Ok. had been using my wharf 8's for years ---- no complaints whatsoever. Very easy to drive.
Yup, ganda nga ng mga wharf 9's, sir ricky. hehehe. Actually, will be auditioning 9.6's mamaya sa WATT HIFI.
Anyways, as sir jarius mentioned for your satisfaction, try "auditioning" the speakers that you mentioned. What may be "pricy" may not be the best. vice versa.
Gud Luck "hunting" bro.
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Which of the 3 following brands would you choose ?
considering the price and the preformance ?
might get one of these brands for our HT setup .
Thanks ! ;D
i used to have a wharfedale diamonds 9.2 mainly used for 90% HT and 10% music and very satisfied with it's performance.
i'd go for wharfedale diamond 9 series ;D all black ash asteeeG ang dating! pero sa subs i'll go another direction and not wharfes.
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Thanks for the replies . The brands i chose were only the brands i saw in various shops here in our city (davao) so i have limited choices only .
:D .
Look also at preowned gears at http://pinoybazaar.forumotion.com/index.htm
Some maybe willing to ship to Davao. Also, try to get the advise of members located there. Superman, I think, is based in Davao.
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hands down for wharfes! ;D
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Does anyone know where to find wharf speakers here in davao or maybe in manila ?
Thanks ..
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Does anyone know where to find wharf speakers here in davao or maybe in manila ?
Thanks ..
Try to PM Superman (Jen) or Oreoshake (Jun). Based sila dyan sa DAVAO. They might be able to help u out with your speaker "needs" on your end.
Dito sa Manila naman, well ang daming sources. bro. Nakakahilo ang choices, heheheheh.
U can PM Nemesis91 (Jeff) ng Theaterworks. He can surely help u out.
Meron din sa WATT HIFI, Makati Cinema Square. (02) 811-1883. Look for Amiel.
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YES, I saw it at iMAX theater.
Di lang sikat sa atin JBL and no reviews (in british mags w/c are common here).
But performance wise, JBL has my respects, specially in the theater arena.
I use one inexpensive satellite speaker system in my bedroom, they are awesome when well powered (specially for the cost).
BUT, I dont like the Northridge series. :P
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In Manila you can look for them at:
Shangri La mall- Sights and Sounds look for Jun (02) 6341789
OR
Trinoma Mall- Theaterworks- Look for "M" or Jen (02) 901 3975
Good luck:)
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in manila...
we have store owners here which are also members of the community try to PM them for quotations.
THE HOME THEATER
Unit G8, Prince Tower, Tordesillas cor.
Bautista Sts., Salcedo Village, Makati City
( at the back of the Makati Sports Club )
Tel. No. 812-5235
PM butch_HT
Sights and Sounds - Shangri-La Mall PM E-Reply
Theater Works - 3rd floor Trinoma mall
PM Nemesis91.
The Listening Room Mega Mall
or
Ambassador - 2nd floor virra mall
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considering the price and the preformance ?
I would just like to remind that performance is very much tied up with the power & decoding you give your speakers. Try comparing the cheapest receiver you can get your hands on and a $1,000 receiver with the same speaker and you will know what I am talking about.
so my advice is: be more generous with your receiver! :)
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May pahabol ako.
u can check out this site:
http://pinoybazaar.forumotion.com/a-v-bazaar-f4/fs-mission-m52-speakers-20k-na-lang-t64.htm
Oreoshake is selling his speakers (Mission M52's nga lang). Nandyan sa davao ang unit nya.
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really ha! mukhang mapapabili ako ng JBL STUDIO L. Sir I already audiotioned JM Lab Speakers sa kaibigan ko using denon rcvr sa AVDI nya nabili. FRONT / Center / Sub chorus 800 series pero rear nya infinity beta na dipole. great for MUSIC but for Movie maraming nawawala na details at mabagal tumunog. saan store po kaya best price ang JBL Studio L . maliit kasi discount sa Megamall . upgrade na rin ako ng AVR- palitan ko na Denon ko ng HK-645. STUDIO L -880 , LC2 , L-820 , L-8400.
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upgrade na rin ako ng AVR- palitan ko na Denon ko ng HK-645. STUDIO L -880 , LC2 , L-820 , L-8400.
You dont need to change your 2808. its a good enough receiver to drive your new speakers.
Try SGT home theater, he gives great deals. 813-8443.
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You dont need to change your 2808. its a good enough receiver to drive your new speakers.
Try SGT home theater, he gives great deals. 813-8443.
For reference, here's an old 2006 review of the Studio L Series from Sound & Vision Magazine:
http://manuals.harman.com/JBL/HOM/Product%20Information/SV02%20JBL-6rev.pdf
Two 820's as Main Left and Right
One LC2 as Center
Two 810's as Left and Right Surrounds
One 8400P Sub
Take note that the review mentioned that the 820 and LC2's nominal impedance were unusually low at 4.3 and 4.4 ohms respectively. Keep that in mind when upgrading your receiver.
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ano po ibig nyo sabihin. magkakaproblema ba ako if mag upgrade ako ng rcvr?
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ano po ibig nyo sabihin. magkakaproblema ba ako if mag upgrade ako ng rcvr?
It was just a warning from the review. Since it's nominal rating is 8ohms anyway, kaya naman ng receiver mo. Ask MAtZTER for his take.
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Which of the 3 following brands would you choose ?
considering the price and the preformance ?
might get one of these brands for our HT setup .
Thanks ! ;D
1. wharfedale - affordability and quality, needs powerful receiver to bring out its best, best for movies
2. mordaunt-short - crisp/clear sound and technology, easy to drive; avoid partnering it with "bright" AVRs, ideal for music
3. Bose - unreasonably expensive
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Pinoys are lucky the wharfe diamonds retail cheaply here. On the internet, in the US and Europe, the same 9.5 retails for about $800 - $1000, about the same or costlier than other brands that cost more locally. ;D Only reason why i'm using MS is I prefer the sonic "accuracy" of metal drivers and I prefer their "cleaner" look and build.
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Pinoys are lucky the wharfe diamonds retail cheaply here. On the internet, in the US and Europe, the same 9.5 retails for about $800 - $1000, about the same or costlier than other brands that cost more locally. ;D
Oo nga - kaya nga naisip ko magbenta nalang ako ng Wharfs sa mga clients ko dun eh :D ;D
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What receiver/amp are you going to use? I think this is also important. You will have to make sure that they will match with, and have enough power to drive your speakers properly.
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I would just like to remind that performance is very much tied up with the power & decoding you give...
so my advice is: be more generous with your receiver! :)
Gayahin mo si Sir MAtz, naging SALAWAHAN in quest for BETTER PERFORMANCE .... ::) ::) Sa receiver nga lang... ;D ;D
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i will be using a Denon AVR-1708 as the amplifier .
thanks guys
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Oo nga - kaya nga naisip ko magbenta nalang ako ng Wharfs sa mga clients ko dun eh :D ;D
The freight charges will kill you ;D
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Pinoys are lucky the wharfe diamonds retail cheaply here. On the internet, in the US and Europe, the same 9.5 retails for about $800 - $1000, about the same or costlier than other brands that cost more locally. ;D Only reason why i'm using MS is I prefer the sonic "accuracy" of metal drivers and I prefer their "cleaner" look and build.
My classmate is an engineer in an offshore oil rig in UK, last year when he was on rto (report to office) in London he saw the very same 9.5 (made in china) that I have in a local A/V shop selling for roughly 45K pesos. ;D
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Indeed, the Wharfs are a steal for their selling price in the Philippines.
To the OP, I too prefer the overall sound of the Wharfs among the three, although I would have liked it more with a metal dome tweeter (personal preference of course). ;)
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same reason why i got the wharfe 9.dfs immediately yesterday when i saw the posted price in UK selling for 150 british pounds X 2.2 = US$330 = 13K pesoses!!! Selling for 4K in Manila. ;D
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if ur having problem looking for wharfe speakers
in ur area, try to PM cybermms....
he is located in imus cavite but he ships items to
provincial customers!
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It was just a warning from the review. Since it's nominal rating is 8ohms anyway, kaya naman ng receiver mo. Ask MAtZTER for his take.
True your receiver can handle it, but on those demanding passages where the speakers dip to 4 ohms, your speakers may not achieve its full dynamics. Adding a power amp as a future upgrade may help.
A fellow member (spenz) bought these studio L's with power amps and he is very satisfied with it.
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My classmate is an engineer in an offshore oil rig in UK, last year when he was on rto (report to office) in London he saw the very same 9.5 (made in china) that I have in a local A/V shop selling for roughly 45K pesos. ;D
I used to own 9.5, which I got on sale price (I'm OP). when I learned that it sells even less in Pinas I immediately find buyer and sold it same amount. The reason was, I don't want to spend extra for shipping to Pinas whereas I can get same or less without shipping cost. ;D ;D
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Anybody knows if the Wharf Diamond 75th Anniversary Edition is available here? I think they are just limited edition and a little more expensive than the stock 9.1 . TIA :)
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Invest more on your speaker and if possible get the best that you can. Speakers will give you life time of enjoyment compared to receiver.
I totally disagree with being more generous on receiver, sorry just my opinion and even any other audio forums will recommend you to invest more on quality and good speakers.
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Indeed, the Wharfs are a steal for their selling price in the Philippines.
To the OP, I too prefer the overall sound of the Wharfs among the three, although I would have liked it more with a metal dome tweeter (personal preference of course). ;)
quick solution: add a super tweeter. ;)
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I used to own 9.5, which I got on sale price (I'm OP). when I learned that it sells even less in Pinas I immediately find buyer and sold it same amount. The reason was, I don't want to spend extra for shipping to Pinas whereas I can get same or less without shipping cost. ;D ;D
True, bringing those home would surely cost you a lot of money especially on freight charges...
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good day gurus just wanna ask kung alin mas maganda dali concept 6 or monitor audio been thinkin of getting one kasi thnxs
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I totally disagree with being more generous on receiver, sorry just my opinion and even any other audio forums will recommend you to invest more on quality and good speakers.
Oops, my bad. :D I actually meant "be more generous than usual" but I didnt mean to exceed the cost of your speakers. ;D
I was thinking of the not so unusual "buying mid level speakers and getting the cheapest receiver" syndrome.
A good guideline (I learned from HT magazines) would be to allocate at least (minimum) half of the total cost of your 5.1 speakers for your receiver. I would suggest to use international SRP's as MS & Wharfes here are priced differently.
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Why are Bose speakers not so popular in this forum sir? Given that they are pricey how about their performance? If you put it side by side with Mordaunt and Wharfe is it superior than these 2 speakers?
I'm a happy Wharfe owner nga pala. :)
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Why are Bose speakers not so popular in this forum sir? Given that they are pricey how about their performance? If you put it side by side with Mordaunt and Wharfe is it superior than these 2 speakers?
I'm a happy Wharfe owner nga pala? :)
Bose products are unpopular not only in this forum. They are cheap-sounding and ridiculously overpriced.
Bose spkrs are sold in their exclusive shops, so you will have no way of comparing them with other brands. Ever wondered why? Pag may nag-audition kasi, siguradong walang bibili since the buyer will be able to compare them side-by-side with much cheaper brands that sound better ;D.
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Why are Bose speakers not so popular in this forum sir? Given that they are pricey how about their performance? If you put it side by side with Mordaunt and Wharfe is it superior than these 2 speakers?
I'm a happy Wharfe owner nga pala? :)
Talking about their accoustimas and lifestyle products, it's not so much that they are pricey as they are poorly specified for the price. For that same price, you can get better sounding speakers.
This forum is not unique bashing these speakers. Except maybe forums set up and controlled by Bose. When a brand aspires to be accepted by audiophiles, it had better have great sound and not just a form factor brilliantly marketed to attract the wife. ;D Also, you will never find a Bose product in AV shops that allow you to compare them with their other speaker brands, because Bose marketing strategy is such that they have their own accoustically engineered showrooms and outlets that will make any speaker sound great while making it difficult if not impossible to do comparative evaluation.
I think this article explains much of the audiophile contempt for the accoustimas bose brand. Kindly read through and savor every word of it. ;D
http://www.intellexual.net/bose.html
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for me, the mordaunt short has better value for money than wharfdale's. some mordaunt short speakers (of the same class) actually sound better than b&w's, monitors and missions.
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for me, the mordaunt short has better value for money than wharfdale's. some mordaunt short speakers (of the same class) actually sound better than b&w's, monitors and missions.
I also auditioned mordaunt and I agree that they really sound great (tulo nga laway ko nung narinig ko with Marantz ;D) but I think Wharfe is still affordable. For people like me who are on a tight budget when it comes to this "SARS" I think Wharfe is the best choice. :) IMO.
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Nice to know I am not alone. ;D I do prefer the sound of MS at its price point. I've always preferred metal-based drivers.
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good day gurus just wanna ask kung alin mas maganda dali concept 6 or monitor audio been thinkin of getting one kasi thnxs
The best way to find if it would match your gear is to audition them.
Some dealers would allow you to take the speakers home and do a home audition. I am sure you can make arrangements with the speaker dealers.
If not, take your amp with you and audition the speakers at the store.
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ok tnxs
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Great to hear good things about Mordaunt-Short speakers :D
I've been seriously considering purchasing MS speakers lately, because they're really affordable.
May I ask what's the best and affordable receiver to pair with MS speakers.
Ok ba yung YAMAHA or Onkyo?
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Great to hear good things about Mordaunt-Short speakers :D
I've been seriously considering purchasing MS speakers lately, because they're really affordable.
May I ask what's the best and affordable receiver to pair with MS speakers.
Ok ba yung YAMAHA or Onkyo?
Yamaha ;)
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To better enlighten us, how much is the price range of an "afforadable" MS? ;D
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nothing beats the (supertest winner) mordaunt short avant 902i bookshelf - P10,250
(http://www.mordauntshort.com/assets/page_pictures/20060109_154252_WHFSupertestWinner.jpg)
(http://www.mordauntshort.com/assets/page_pictures/20051214_120907_902i.jpg)
i used to own one. had to let it go to complete my mission ht. I tried to buy it back but it was too late. wish my wife would allow me to buy a new one.
http://www.mordauntshort.com/content.php?COID=64 - or the floorstanders (my reco is the 914i) i believe also 5 star rated.
or
(http://www.mordauntshort.com/assets/page_pictures/20070807_111659_Mezzo-1-tb.jpg)
something I've been wanting to get. I believe the going SRP is 24k... this puts your B&Ws to shame.
alam ko may discounts pa sa cash, look for Jay sa 5th Ave Park Square.
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id go for the dali.
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If you could stretch your budget, go for the Dali Ikon 6.. ;D ;D ;D
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(http://www.mordauntshort.com/gallery/performance/performance-silver-med.jpg)
The MS Performance line. Last I checked last year, this was retailing in excess of P300T a pair when 5th at MOA had it. Well-reviewed as its horn-loaded tweeter assembly is basically lifted from the B&W nautilus design.
Too bad the brand is locally distributed by a contemptible store with lousy aftersales service. >:(
What really goes for B&W is its great after sales service which is complied with locally by Sound Dimension. But its legendary claim to great sonics is really confined just to the 800 series and above. Anything lower than that is really a compromise targetting mass markets but with a catch. You need high current separate amps to drive them well as their highly reactive loads going down to 3 ohms will make mincemeat of almost every receiver out there. ;D
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Great to hear good things about Mordaunt-Short speakers :D
I've been seriously considering purchasing MS speakers lately, because they're really affordable.
May I ask what's the best and affordable receiver to pair with MS speakers.
Ok ba yung YAMAHA or Onkyo?
Bro try to audition MS with Marantz, it may suite your listening taste. Happy hunting!
Balitaan mo na lang kami and let me know kung magkano price ng MS Mezzo..sori OT.
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hi bro im using MS n Marantz combo. it suits my preference. give it a try din baka magustuhan mo.
goodluck!
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Visit 5th ave park square and audition their MS and Cambridge, very good combo especially for audio. They also have Marantz amp, try both and see which suits your tastebuds. I believe they give BIG discount for cash purchase.
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Mga sir available na kya 'to locally? :o
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Gwenael/MSMezzo1.jpg)
Pa PM naman ng individual prices. Thanks
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im not familiar with the sound of both but has already heard both the ikon6 and the RS6. imo, the RS6 is a winner.
to be sure we have the same judgement criteria, y not take the speakers home and take it from there?
there's nothing better than trying them within ur own room, using ur own gears, and own source materials. goodluck.
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I think some stores won't allow taking home gears without paying the amount as sold and they give considerations in return policy... ::) ;D
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I think some stores won't allow taking home gears without paying the amount as sold and they give considerations in return policy... ::) ;D
most stores wouldnt allow it for complete strangers :).
yan din ang mahirap though its a must.
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i believe the mezzo is already available here.
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most stores wouldnt allow it for complete strangers :).
yan din ang mahirap though its a must.
Yung ang mahirap talaga dito sa atin - pero syempre we also try & understand the dealer's situation.
Thats why I believe in building a relationship with an AV dealer - my AV dealer not only has the best prices, but allows home auditions as well ;D
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Visit 5th ave park square and audition their MS and Cambridge, very good combo especially for audio. They also have Marantz amp, try both and see which suits your tastebuds. I believe they give BIG discount for cash purchase.
Yes, just be extra careful. A pinoydvd member here got burned buying a receiver on sale from them.
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=76888.0
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^ Yup, and make sure you run...run as fast as you can after your purchase. ;D
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I'd advise that too. Only problem is, sa bigat ng receiver or speakers, mahirap tumakbo at baka ka matapilok. ;D
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matching is actually the key here, nde ko alam ksi kung magkano ang monitor audio br4. nagkaron ako dti ng dali concept 6, ok sya (had to sell dati due to budget constraints for an operation).
previously had monitor audio b2 - peyborit kong bukshelf spkr dti.
i think you can't go wrong on both spkrs, proper matching at preferences lang yan (if budget is not a concern) mas marami ka pang choices nyan.
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hehe :D
although many friends are suggesting to pair the Marantz with MS speakers.
I'm just not familiar with the brand.
I have a preference for Yamaha. then Onkyo then Denon.
Anyway, wala pa akong budget for new speakers. I'll probably buy a set middle of this year.
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May I ask what's the best and affordable receiver to pair with MS speakers.
Ok ba yung YAMAHA or Onkyo?
With MS's tendency to brightness, Onkyo might match better with them. The new Onkyo X05 are not bad. If only they could put pre outs on lower models.
The Marantz OTH, has a HDMI model w/ pre outs (4001) at an affordable price point. But like people warned in this forum, after sales service can be a problem.
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^ Yup, and make sure you run...run as fast as you can after your purchase. ;D
And never leave your item to them for safe keeping after you have paid...
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Yung ang mahirap talaga dito sa atin - pero syempre we also try & understand the dealer's situation.
Thats why I believe in building a relationship with an AV dealer - my AV dealer not only has the best prices, but allows home auditions as well ;D
Yes, This advice was given by many HT mags. Build a relationship with your dealer. Mas yari ka if you canvass the lowest price but di naman nag-match sa gears mo. Think: Did you really get the better end of the deal?
Better to be safe than sorry, even if it means a few bucks more. And be reasonable too, specially in haggling, these dealers need to make a profit w/ the same concept we need our salaries to survive. Its sad that certain elements in this forum try so hard to portray dealers as an evil empire out to fool you of your money.
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id pair the mordaunt with other amps, not the marantz.
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And never leave your item to them for safe keeping after you have paid...
And pray that the item you bought from them won't be needing repairs... :D
I haven't heard the Wharfs before so my vote goes to MS (haft-heartedly) if only they weren't distributed solely by 5th Ave.
But for the speakers itself, I once owned a set, they sound marvelous, but yes they are a bit bright so you need to pair them with a warm amp.
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Since I had BOSE (Accoustimass AM-10 series 2) and Wharfedales (Diamond 8 )
running side-by-side in the same room with the same receiver (Yamaha RXV-2095),
I can say that Wharfedales sound at least 2x better....noticeable difference.
BOSE is ok if you want a small form factor, "portability".
BOSE cost me P45K, while the Wharfedales (5 speakers ) cost me less han 20K
Which of the 3 following brands would you choose ?
considering the price and the preformance ?
might get one of these brands for our HT setup .
Thanks ! ;D
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We use BOSE for a restaurant, its not bad... for background music & invisibility factor. We got it pre-owned so I am not complaining abt the price. But at full price.... NOOOOO.
My JBL SCS will eat it alive at 1/3 the price. :)
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Hello Wharfs fanatics,
I am selling my 5.1 ch set for 35K pesos. It composed of 2-wharf diamond 8 series tower spkrs, 2-wharf surround, 1-wharf center, 1-dynaquest 300W sub, Pioneer 5.1 ch A/V 120W per ch 6-inputs with tuner, 1 complete set of cables (sub, speakers, optical). Sound is great for movies & music.
Here is my number, 0920-953-4921. I accept calls only. Thanks
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Hello Wharfs fanatics,
I am selling my 5.1 ch set for 35K pesos. It composed of 2-wharf diamond 8 series tower spkrs, 2-wharf surround, 1-wharf center, 1-dynaquest 300W sub, Pioneer 5.1 ch A/V 120W per ch 6-inputs with tuner, 1 complete set of cables (sub, speakers, optical). Sound is great for movies & music.
Here is my number, 0920-953-4921. I accept calls only. Thanks
Bro, post it at the link below before it gets deleted. No selling is allowed here for the meantime -- tentative opening of the HT marketplace is, I think, this weekend.
http://pinoybazaar.forumotion.com/index.htm (http://pinoybazaar.forumotion.com/index.htm)
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Hello Wharfs fanatics,
I am selling my 5.1 ch set for 35K pesos. It composed of 2-wharf diamond 8 series tower spkrs, 2-wharf surround, 1-wharf center, 1-dynaquest 300W sub, Pioneer 5.1 ch A/V 120W per ch 6-inputs with tuner, 1 complete set of cables (sub, speakers, optical). Sound is great for movies & music.
Here is my number, 0920-953-4921. I accept calls only. Thanks
Kung gusto mo hintay-hintay ka na lang malapit na raw uli magbukas ang buy and sell section dito. ;D
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True your receiver can handle it, but on those demanding passages where the speakers dip to 4 ohms, your speakers may not achieve its full dynamics. Adding a power amp as a future upgrade may help.
A fellow member (spenz) bought these studio L's with power amps and he is very satisfied with it.
thanks for the idea MAtZTER , i just bought the JBL Studio L Series last week with Sunfire power amps and sunfire processor. very very nice.... :) :) :)
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Di lang sikat sa atin JBL and no reviews (in british mags w/c are common here).
But performance wise, JBL has my respects, specially in the theater arena.
I use one inexpensive satellite speaker system in my bedroom, they are awesome when well powered (specially for the cost).
BUT, I dont like the Northridge series. :P
bro actually JBL was already known here sa Pinas long time ago specially nag top siya in Pro Audio area at nag hit siya noon late 70's at early 80's era. top choice noon yan. lalo na yung "voice of theater" I was there when my dad and group of technician was installing it sa isang hotel sa manila and all I can say is WOW. then lumabas yung turbo model na kala mo eh bomb head shells. lagi pa noon ang bass bins were Cerwin Vega EL36. oh well those were the pro years...
Now JBL has become a household name, to tell you honestly nag bago ang quality same as Cerwin's. para kasi nag concentrate sila sa marketing at consumer products. one thing I dont like yung sattelites ng JBL na parang BOSE. iba pa rin ang floor standers...
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thanks for the idea MAtZTER , i just bought the JBL Studio L Series last week with Sunfire power amps and sunfire processor. very very nice.... :) :) :)
sir, what JBL Studio L models did you get?
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thanks for the idea MAtZTER , i just bought the JBL Studio L Series last week with Sunfire power amps and sunfire processor. very very nice.... :) :) :)
congrats!! ;D wer nyo nabili jbl at sunfire amps??
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sir, what JBL Studio L models did you get?
L-890 , LC2 , L820, L8400. 5.1ch lang
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congrats!! ;D wer nyo nabili jbl at sunfire amps??
sa sm cyberzone north edsa yon jbl store dun.
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Now JBL has become a household name, to tell you honestly nag bago ang quality same as Cerwin's. para kasi nag concentrate sila sa marketing at consumer products. one thing I dont like yung sattelites ng JBL na parang BOSE. iba pa rin ang floor standers...
although the products that they market are their consumer grade speakers, JBL is still active in the high end arena. the JBL EVEREST DD66000 was voted by high end critics/writers as one of the best speakers in the 2007 CES show in Vegas . This is the premier electronics show held in the US every year and it is where high end audio giants unveil their super systems. JBL just doesnt bother with marketing their high end products all over the world because of the very small target market. If im not mistaken the price of the Everest was $58K/pair. That speaker edged out ultra high end products from A to Z in that show.
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although the products that they market are their consumer grade speakers, JBL is still active in the high end arena. the JBL EVEREST DD66000 was voted by high end critics/writers as one of the best speakers in the 2007 CES show in Vegas . This is the premier electronics show held in the US every year and it is where high end audio giants unveil their super systems. JBL just doesnt bother with marketing their high end products all over the world because of the very small target market. If im not mistaken the price of the Everest was $58K/pair. That speaker edged out ultra high end products from A to Z in that show.
Oh yes... I remember that EVEREST DD66000...
Im not sure kung magkaiba ang area ng pro and hi-fi nila. pero yung nababasa ko sa ads nila is "pro sound comes home" maybe their applying pro components to be used as hi-fi products... but still regardless of the area JBL has a reputation of building quality speakers and other Harman products such as Infinity and QSC audio produces the same. kaya most high end commercial theaters here uses JBL. I remember seeing those 18" JBL sub being used at G4 lobby/foyer area sa ilalim ng mga movie adds ano na kaya nangyari dun??? for me ang dream speakers ko from JBL is their K2 S9800 saka dati yung synthesis.
the EVEREST DD66000 and K2 S9800 side by side with synthesis, my dream system:
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/dreamsys.jpg)
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L-890 , LC2 , L820, L8400. 5.1ch lang
Sir, kung di kalabisan syo share mo naman set-up mo once naayos mo na.....pampagana lang ;D
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Sir, kung di kalabisan syo share mo naman set-up mo once naayos mo na.....pampagana lang ;D
sure i let you know ;)
guys, gusto ko sana mag add ng pa isang sub and a pr of speakers for surround para maging 7.2 kasi better daw po is it true? , gaano po kalaki ang difference. sa 5.1. and ang advice po nila is gumamit daw po ako ng dipole na surround is there any changes sa placement or positioning ng surround ko if bumili ako ng dipole. hope you can help me. thanks in advance
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thanks for the idea MAtZTER , i just bought the JBL Studio L Series last week with Sunfire power amps and sunfire processor. very very nice.... :) :) :)
Congrats! Pre/pro plus power amps!!!
Rockin'!
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Hi. Just passed by AVDI and saw focal and energy speakers on sale. Any inputs on them? My current system is a KT88 PP amp partnered with Castle Richmond 3i speakers. While I like the Richmonds, I'm a bit disappointed in the bass department. Listened to both the Focal and Energy speakers and they seem a good upgrade from the Richmonds.
Just looking for inputs from guys who went from small monitors (like the Castles) to larger standmount speakers.
Need the input, since the commander in chief will not allow more than 1 pair of odyopayl speakers in the house. No turning back no regrets no return no exchange. No speaker collecting. . . Sad
Thanks!
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I would choose between Focal and Dynaudio.
Its really a toss up between the two imho, I choose the Dyn's because they were the best speakers i've used for car audio, whereas, I the Focals were clearly outclassed by DLS.
but thats car audio... ;D
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Hands down ill choose the Wharfes ;) the 9 series looks so cool, and for the price you can complete a 7.1 setup with ease. Its NOT just for BEGINNERS anymore ESPECIALLY IF YOU USE POWER AMPS TO DRIVE IT ;) ;) ;)
TRUE!!!... i'm using wharfs 9.5 for fronts and 9cm as my center plus BADA 5ch power amp to drive this speakers! and WOW!!!!... ang layo ng diff using your receiver lang!!!! (yammy 659) ;D ;D ;D
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Hi to Everybody!!!
I'm a member for 1 year to this site but just a lurker.. I just got my Onkyo TXSR705 to replace my (7year) old but reliable Onkyo TX-484. I got Bose AM 10 right now but I wanted to upgrade my HT to 7.1 (for me to experience the wonder of lossless audio). My choices are trimmed down to two brands (which are popular in the US) 1. Polk Monitor Series and 2. BIC America 62SI series. B&W speakers are good but quite expensive (Kasi namulubi na ako sa LCD ko) and its out on my budget.Those two brands i mentioned will only cost me around USD600 plus im thinking to match it with USD150 velodyne Subs.
Anyone who have auditioned Polk Monitor series and Bic America speakers? Pls. Help....
Thanks....
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Not familiar with BIC so I'd go for the Polk Audio Monitor series.
Frankly, just about any good audiophile-grade speakers would be an improvement over your Bose AM 10 speakers. But that's just me. ;D
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Frankly, just about any good audiophile-grade speakers would be an improvement over your Bose AM 10 speakers. But that's just me. ;D
;D
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Thats what I thought (w/ Polk).... Im just curious with the (better) reviews of BIC America in the US.
I feel that something is missing with my Bose AM10, maybe its because of the tiny satellite speakers and not comparable to bookshelf or floorstanding in terms of power??? This is just my opinion, with my experience my AM 10, they are rather overrated and no available upgrade around if you want to go from 5.1 to 7.1.
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I think I'll go with Polk Audio. Bang for the buck! I also have a Bose AM10. And I dont like the bass module the sound is ok I just find the bass muddy at times. I also desparately need an upgrade.
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Hi! Has anybody tried comparing the Usher S520 against the Wharf 9.1 ? I need a bookshelf speaker for a simple 2ch pure audio set-up. My amp is a vintage Sansui Alpha 607 integrated amp with 100w/ch rms power.
I'm on a budget thus I think this 2 speaker models are considered the best entry level speakers today. I already have 1 pair of the 9.1 and I'm very satisfied using it for music/movies but I've read wonderful reviews of the Usher for music too, thus planning to get one exclusively for 2ch music set-up.
Though, I need some opinion, if the Usher is really better than the 9.1 for music use or are they just on the same level. TIA :)
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Hi! Has anybody tried comparing the Usher S520 against the Wharf 9.1 ? I need a bookshelf speaker for a simple 2ch pure audio set-up. My amp is a vintage Sansui Alpha 607 integrated amp with 100w/ch rms power.
I'm on a budget thus I think this 2 speaker models are considered the best entry level speakers today. I already have 1 pair of the 9.1 and I'm very satisfied using it for music/movies but I've read wonderful reviews of the Usher for music too, thus planning to get one exclusively for 2ch music set-up.
Though, I need some opinion, if the Usher is really better than the 9.1 for music use or are they just on the same level. TIA :)
try to get in touch with my friend - akyatbundok, who actually has both speakers - you can even throw in there his ms902, although i know he has been involved in another hobby as most of my friends are after this hobby of ours, asa photography na ata sya.
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Hi james16! Thanks for the referal. Can I still send akyatbundok a pm ? By the way, since he is your friend, probably he has shared with you some feedback or comment regarding the comparison of these 2 speakers. Can you also give me some insight? ::)
My friend has the ms902i and I prefer the wharf 9.1, so did he! :D
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Hello, Please help me.
I am currently choosing between these 2 speaker brands. What are the characteristic sound of each manufacturer and what would better match an
Onkyo tx-sr805. I am currently in the East Coast and it is very difficult high end audio. Mostly sold here are klipsh, definitive tech, jbl. NO UK brands anywhere.
For Energy, I am looking at the C-Series.
(http://www.energy-speakers.com/general/C-500%20Black%203%20quarter%20grille%20OFF%20web.jpg)
CENTER: C-C100
FRONT: C-500
Surround: C-R100
For PSB. I am looking at the Image series T45 or T55 and matching set
(http://www.audioadvisor.com/images/PSB_T45B.jpg)
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Choose the one that sounds better to you.
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hehe,
the problem is that I cannot audition these speakers. I would just order them thru the internet and judge by the reviews here.
I think I saw these speakers while I was in Shangrila before. Hoping someone would be knowledgable of these 2 brands. I know you guys there are great with these equipment.
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hehe,
the problem is that I cannot audition these speakers. I would just order them thru the internet and judge by the reviews here.
I think I saw these speakers while I was in Shangrila before. Hoping someone would be knowledgable of these 2 brands. I know you guys there are great with these equipment.
you may audition the psb image series here at audible illusions. just tell us when and we'll arrange it. you may call us at 3743620.
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I know that B&W is more expensive compared to Wharfedale. How would you compare B&W686 against Wharfs Diamond 9.1 with respect to performance? Assuming both speakers is paired with the matched amplifiers. Is the price difference would justify difference in performance?
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pang surrounds or fronts?
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does it ever?
the answer to that is simple, buy what you can afford and what you like.
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pang surrounds or fronts?
as front speaker specifically for 2-ch music listening.
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Both are good speakers. They just have very different sound characteristics. If you want extended highs, a bit forward sounding, lots of detail thrown at you, listening like you're in the front row seat, then B&W might be a better option. If you want a very relaxed sound, singers seem to be just around the speaker area, wharfs might suit you better. As for me, I used to have wharfe 9.1, 9.2, and 9.5. Partnered with my Yamaha receiver, I liked the Wharfs better than my B&W. I wanted something more exciting than Wharfs but less forward sounding than my B&W. So I changed the capacitors in my 601S3 to Mundorf Supreme. I ended up with the character I was looking for. Not in your face sound but has enough bite to lash out those crisp clear highs. I suggest you listen around and establish your preferred sound character then you'll know which one will suit you're preference better.
Regarding your question if the price difference is worth it, it is if it's the type of sound you're looking for. Don't buy something na ok ok lang. Buy the speaker that would appeal to your senses. :)
Jason
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thanks for the insights...
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Both are good speakers. They just have very different sound characteristics. If you want extended highs, a bit forward sounding, lots of detail thrown at you, listening like you're in the front row seat, then B&W might be a better option. If you want a very relaxed sound, singers seem to be just around the speaker area, wharfs might suit you better. As for me, I used to have wharfe 9.1, 9.2, and 9.5. Partnered with my Yamaha receiver, I liked the Wharfs better than my B&W. I wanted something more exciting than Wharfs but less forward sounding than my B&W. So I changed the capacitors in my 601S3 to Mundorf Supreme. I ended up with the character I was looking for. Not in your face sound but has enough bite to lash out those crisp clear highs. I suggest you listen around and establish your preferred sound character then you'll know which one will suit you're preference better.
Regarding your question if the price difference is worth it, it is if it's the type of sound you're looking for. Don't buy something na ok ok lang. Buy the speaker that would appeal to your senses. :)
Jason
yan ang input... for newbies like me, hehe, we really appreciate yung mga sagot na ganito..thanks sir..
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Glad I could help. I'm sure a lot of members would help you out in your audio journey as they have helped me.
Enjoy the music! :)
Jason
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So I changed the capacitors in my 601S3 to Mundorf Supreme.
Jason
What capacitors? In the cross-over network of the speaker system? Did you change the capacitance values...higher or lower?
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suggest you do not alter the cap values.
here is the answer of B&W to brother macdon re mundorf caps:
I checked a few of the 800D series crossovers and noticed the name on the caps was “M Cap Supreme Silver/Gold” and “M Cap Audiophiler”. Also written on the caps was “Made in Germany by Mundorf for B&W”
I do not know what difference replacing the 600 series caps with Mundorf however I have heard that better caps produce less noise and the tolerances are tighter. The standard tolerance for low grade caps is 20% and for normal caps it is 5 or 10%. I noticed that the tolerance on the Mundorf caps was +/- 2%.
I do not have any recommendations or suggestions either way however if you speakers are still under warranty the replacing of the caps will void it.
If you any further questions or need any further information please feel free to contact me at any time.
a B&W 601s3 on Mundorf Supreme caps??? My kinda speaker!!! ;D ;D
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What capacitors? In the cross-over network of the speaker system? Did you change the capacitance values...higher or lower?
Same values sir. Just changed the 4.7uf to Mundorf Supreme and changed tweeter wire to Mundorf silver/gold wire. ;D
Jason
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a B&W 601s3 on Mundorf Supreme caps??? My kinda speaker!!! ;D ;D
It's not bad... definitely won't be as good as a Dyn with Mundorfs! ;D ;D Parang Dynaudio 42 SE. ;D ;D
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jason, kung bebenta mo yan... sakin nalang. im thinking of a 601s3 on mundorf caps project e... i find the 602s3 too bulky and boomy.
so the 601s3 only has one 4.7uf cap for the tweeter? wala na for the driver?
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not selling in the near future sir. Am now using it for ht and am really happy with it. It has another cap but it's 10uf. A bit expensive if changed to supremes. Center speakers pa kasi. ;D
The mundorf silver wires for the tweeter helps a lot too. ;)
Will definitely text you first when I do decide to sell.
Jason
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4.7uf and 10.0uf means that B&W pala uses the same cap values pala sa 601s3, 602s3, 602.5s3...
hmmm.....
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Don't think so. Not sure about the 602.5 but I remember opening the 602s3. It has higher values than the 601s3. Just forgot what values exactly.
Jason
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Don't think so. Not sure about the 602.5 but I remember opening the 602s3. It has higher values than the 601s3. Just forgot what values exactly.
Jason
San pwde mag pa upgarde ng capacitors and wires?and how much?
TIA
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For Mundorf caps, you could ask Audio Amplified. You could DIY or ask them to install it for you. Reasonable naman service charge.
Jason
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yan ang input... for newbies like me, hehe, we really appreciate yung mga sagot na ganito..thanks sir..
jpeg's response was indeed very insightful ;D sir ledrac, ikaw newbie ??? ;D
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hi guys. i was just wondering which is the better speaker, the mission mv series or the wharfedale diamond series? :)
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tough question, but if we to follow some of the experts advise here, it depends on your avr, if its a yamaha, i think you go wharfedale, if its an onkyo, then go mission.
the diamond series of wharfedale is already a proven series, tagal na sa market compared to the mv series ng mission, its actually one of the first mission products to be price this low (made in china, fo lower cost). but its getting rave reviews from some.
best way is to audition both. sa sight and sound available pareho, para you dont have to move from one store to another.
goodluck on your hunting. ;D
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I agree. Both are good, but performance will depend on your receiver.
First, specify the receiver, then ask which is better.
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tough question, but if we to follow some of the experts advise here, it depends on your avr, if its a yamaha, i think you go wharfedale, if its an onkyo, then go mission.
the diamond series of wharfedale is already a proven series, tagal na sa market compared to the mv series ng mission, its actually one of the first mission products to be price this low (made in china, fo lower cost). but its getting rave reviews from some.
best way is to audition both. sa sight and sound available pareho, para you dont have to move from one store to another.
goodluck on your hunting. ;D
ok here's a tougher question, onkyo+mission mv or yamaha+wharf diamonds? hehehe! ;D
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ok here's a tougher question, onkyo+mission mv or yamaha+wharf diamonds? hehehe! ;D
tougher nga. ;D
if we are talking low to mid end onkyos and yamahas. (mine is an onkyo 604 - low end lang).
imho, if you are more into ht - i'd go mission-onkyo, if more into music - wharfedale-yamaha. :)
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I also have a onkyo 604, i plan to pair it with mission. ;D ;)
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what if paired with a denon or hk receiver? :)
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I also have a onkyo 604, i plan to pair it with mission. ;D ;)
ako nga onkyo - wharfedale (old speakers), i am into ht naman, so the sound for me is very acceptable. for music, dun mo na makita ang incompatibility ng onkyo-wharfe. hopefully in the near future, will change to missions too. ;D
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used to have Wharfe as speakers, all I can say Diamonds are bang for the buck
but sonically speaker if ur after new technology ..I would go for Missions since bago mga bagong labas yan
Just make sure get a Good Amplifier to make them sing coz useless yang mga yan kung mahina ang amp mo...
invest in a Good Amp that can damp...kahit anong speaker gumaganda ang tunog basta maganda amp mo at ma match mo ng tama
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used to have Wharfe as speakers, all I can say Diamonds are bang for the buck
but sonically speaker if ur after new technology ..I would go for Missions since bago mga bagong labas yan
Just make sure get a Good Amplifier to make them sing coz useless yang mga yan kung mahina ang amp mo...
invest in a Good Amp that can damp...kahit anong speaker gumaganda ang tunog basta maganda amp mo at ma match mo ng tama
exactly sir @nk71. ;D
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My current set-up is Onkyo502 + Wharfedale 9.1
I'm also planning to audition the new mission mv series baka kasi mas bagay sa Onkyo receiver ko.
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used to have Wharfe as speakers, all I can say Diamonds are bang for the buck
but sonically speaker if ur after new technology ..I would go for Missions since bago mga bagong labas yan
Just make sure get a Good Amplifier to make them sing coz useless yang mga yan kung mahina ang amp mo...
invest in a Good Amp that can damp...kahit anong speaker gumaganda ang tunog basta maganda amp mo at ma match mo ng tama
i agree ;D
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Hey guys, can anyone comment on the sound reproduction of this two floorstanders. Is my Yamaha's RX-V2500 power(130RMS @8ohms) sufficient to drive this? Thanks
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First of all, both are excellent choices. You'll never go wrong with any one of them. It would be much better if you could audition them with your own Yamaha receiver, side by side preferably. Nonetheless, I'll share my listening impression on B&W 684 and 683 (which I own). I've not heard of RS6 yet, only read reviews about it. So expect a biased and one-sided review. :)
I've auditioned B&W 684 with Onkyo 606 and Denon 1908 (not with Yamaha). As expected, being a British loudspeaker, it sounded warm and laid back. If you're into jazz, oldies, classics, and relaxing music, 684 works quite a charm. The soundstage is more wide and open in Onkyo as compared to Denon but slightly so. Imaging is impressive in 684. Your Yamaha RX-2500 is definitely more powerful than Onkyo 606 and Denon 1908, so it will amply make B&W 684 sing without breaking a sweat.
You may want to audition the higher model B&W 683 (almost same level as RS6's bigger brother---RS8) to see if the increase in price is worth it to your ears. You'll be surprised that 683 and 684 have different sound characteristics. 683 incorporates Fixed Suspension Transducer (FST) cones first used by B&W in its flagship 800 series. The result is more detailed and crisper mids. 683's bass is loud and deep too, which some find boomy especially in small rooms [B&W 803D is way better and more balanced in terms of mids highs and lows to my ears]. To compensate for the loud bass, the speakers should be placed around 1/2 to 1 meter away from walls or perhaps use the supplied foam plugs. I'm using Rotel pre-pro and power amps to drive these power hungry 683 so I'll never be happier. Synergy is more important than speaker's sound characteristics.
I don't know if this is relevant but B&W 680 are made in China but are newer. If I'm not mistaken Monitor Audio Silver series were released as early as 2005 (?) while B&W 680 series around end of 2007. So expect more online reviews of RS6 compared to B&W's new line of speakers.
Here are some reviews to give you some idea on your speakers of choice but at the end of the day rely on your ears--- :)
684: http://whathifi.com/Review/BandW-684/ (http://whathifi.com/Review/BandW-684/)
683: http://www.bowers-wilkins.com/display.aspx?infid=2281&terid=2286&primid=766&secid=971 (http://www.bowers-wilkins.com/display.aspx?infid=2281&terid=2286&primid=766&secid=971)
RS6: http://www.monitoraudio.co.uk/product.php?application=&range=2&product=4&area=5 (http://www.monitoraudio.co.uk/product.php?application=&range=2&product=4&area=5)
I know of at least four PDVD members who own RS6. I'm pretty sure they'll be more than willing to share their listening impression. ;) Again, whichever you choose, you won't be disappointed.
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i vote for B&W syempre :)
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botohan na!
RS6 !
ayan! 1 all ! ;D
note:
-i dont own both model....
-ive heard both models sing...
-i have older siblings of both speakers (RS1 & 602s3)...
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May rave review din ng RS6 sa stereophile
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RS6
;D
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MA of course. ;D
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my obvious vote...
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(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/DSCF0724.jpg) (http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/DSCF1102-1.jpg) (http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/DSCF1099-1.jpg)
cheers!
;) ;) ;)
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If magka pera ako, bibili ako niyan. :)
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Cool set up J. Jake, Looks like the RS6 is winning.
Any of you guys knew an Audio/Video Outlet in Metro Manila that carry both B&W & Monitor Audio in their product line. 'cause i want to hear them in a side by side comparison as much as possible and maybe I'll be bringing my receiver so that I'm not gonna be feeling sorry when I brought it home.
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If magka pera ako, bibili ako niyan. :)
kayang kaya mo yan lance! ;D
Cool set up J. Jake, Looks like the RS6 is winning.
Any of you guys knew an Audio/Video Outlet in Metro Manila that carry both B&W & Monitor Audio in their product line. 'cause i want to hear them in a side by side comparison as much as possible and maybe I'll be bringing my receiver so that I'm not gonna be feeling sorry when I brought it home.
thanks chief. sorry am not familiar with stores that carry both, but would do you best to audition them both. if for audio, i will endorse it. have not tried for HT though.
cheers and good luck!
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Kung ayaw mo makulam, B&W
Kung gusto mo makulam(or gusto mo mag-join sa mga mangkukulam), RS6 :D ;D :D ;D
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Kung ayaw mo makulam, B&W
Kung gusto mo makulam (or gusto mo mag-join sa mga mangkukulam), RS6 :D ;D :D ;D
magaling! magaling ka magisip sir threadlock! ;D ;D ;D
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kayang kaya mo yan lance! ;D
thanks chief. sorry am not familiar with stores that carry both, but would do you best to audition them both. if for audio, i will endorse it. have not tried for HT though.
cheers and good luck!
contact butch of SGT sir, they carry both.
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Hey tnx metalgodz :), pa post naman their contact number. I'll try to go there in my free time for an audition.
BTW, Cool lang guys 8).
More post pa.
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Hey tnx metalgodz :), pa post naman their contact number. I'll try to go there in my free time for an audition.
BTW, Cool lang guys 8).
More post pa.
hehehe cool lang po kami sir. you can check their number in this thread.
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=3164.0
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Cool set up J. Jake, Looks like the RS6 is winning.
Any of you guys knew an Audio/Video Outlet in Metro Manila that carry both B&W & Monitor Audio in their product line. 'cause i want to hear them in a side by side comparison as much as possible and maybe I'll be bringing my receiver so that I'm not gonna be feeling sorry when I brought it home.
It's best to audition them both side by side using the same receiver, A-B if possible, para fair labanan. Then please let us know your listening impression. It would be interesting to know directly from someone who has heard both A-B rather than relying on reviews. Yung audition from one store to another doesn't count much kasi iba yung amp, room, cable, etc. I suggest you bring a friend or two para may second opinion...or maybe other PDVD members would be interested sa shootout. hehehe ;D
I'm not surprised to see many votes for RS6. As expected, there are more RS6 fans since it's been in the market for several years already since 2005 vs. less than 1 year old B&W 680 series, and more people have listened to it (and even compared it to the old B&W 600 series 3 released in 2003). Since then, B&W has improved their entry level speakers.. most especially with the incorporation of FST drivers.
contact butch of SGT sir, they carry both.
Yup try SGT 8125235. Most stores carry B&W and Monitor Audio but they are on order basis. If the store knows you're a serious buyer, you can schedule an audition and they'll bring in a demo unit from their respective suppliers. Good luck! :D
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Hayyy.......napaka hirap sagutin ahihihihihihi :D ;D
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bro madali lang Monitor Audio RS6 . . .
Pero kung B&W 603/604 S3 VS Monitor Audio RS6/8 eto mahirap he he he
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which is the better speaker when paired with a denon or hk receiver? :)
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MA.
try them both sir. people has different preferences and criteria naman. a lot of people would also vote for BnW for sure.
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bro madali lang Monitor Audio RS6 . . .
Pero kung B&W 603/604 S3 VS Monitor Audio RS6/8 eto mahirap he he he
I was helping out my friend for his bedroom ht/audio set up, he was a BIG fan of B&W, so we went to audition the 683/4series first in West avenue.
After spending just a few minutes listening (since he was already sold to the brand) I asked him to visit Audioworld before giving his downpayment.
When we arrived, we went to the 2nd floor room and listened at a RS6 set up with the numerous CDs (mostly B&W test cds ;D) from what was suppose to be a 30min schedule that turned out more than an hour of listening! He sat down, stood up, walked around as if looking for something. He finally said something, that coming from a man who's family has a Mark Levinson for a HT setup, the words "ang ganda naman nito tumunog" means a lot as far as I'm concerned.
In short, let's not get our bias get in the way for us to "try" and listen to the competition, who knows, they might have what you are looking for after all. What happened to him was exactly what happened to me, a BIG fan of the popular brand (B&W) that ended up with a low profile but high performance brand (MA) only I learned the hard way as nobody gave me the tip to check the MAs out also.
Ever notice why very few people are selling their MA speakers anywhere in the forums and audio stores? ;)
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what do you guys think of the infinity primus series? :)
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It depends on the receiver you will pair them with.
Sir MAtZTER says Primus works well with Harman Kardon receivers. You can believe him. That guy has heard them all ;).
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It depends on the receiver you will pair them with.
Sir MAtZTER says Primus works well with Harman Kardon receivers. You can believe him. That guy has heard them all ;).
what if paired with a denon or onkyo? :)
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ask ko lang mga guros kung ano ang mas mganda sa dalawa na i pair sa avr harman kardon 145 no time to audition kse nag babase nalang ako sa mga reviews thnx...
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the infinity primus would match very well with the hk 145. we have the primus 362 hooked up to a hk avr 245 in our showroom if you want to check them out :)
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b n w 684...
wala ng iba
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advice ko lang... wag nakinig sa mga taong may RS6 o B&W.... buy what sounds nicer to you.
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advice ko lang... wag nakinig sa mga taong may RS6 o B&W.... buy what sounds nicer to you.
+1
sometimes, although many people tell you that it sounds really nice, but when you audition it personally, sometimes you say otherwise. Each of us are quite unique and usually has different levels of tastes/preferences especially that audio is leaning more on the subjective side. Although other people's opinion is good, take it as a grain of salt, it will only lead to one's confusion, it's still your ears, your eyes and your pocket that has the last say. Just my 2 cents. ;)
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I paired my infinity primus 160 series to my Yamaha receiver and the sound is OK, i say less bright sound compared to HK reciever.
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advice ko lang... wag nakinig sa mga taong may RS6 o B&W.... buy what sounds nicer to you.
right! listen, listen, listen...
goodluck
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advice ko lang... wag nakinig sa mga taong may RS6 o B&W.... buy what sounds nicer to you.
Best advice ever sir,... ;)
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Hi
I am currently scouting for HT speakers and so far i am choosing between the two sets
Wharfedale
Diamond 9.5
Diamond 9cm
Diamond 9dfs
or
Mission MV-8
Mission MV-c
Mission MVds
My AV receiver is a Denon 1909 and my preference will be 80% movies 20% music. As I am relatively new on this any other speaker suggestions other than the above brands will be helpful. Budget 25-30k room is around 20sqm
Thanks in advance
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pre nung nag audition ako ng wharf vs mission..layo ng tunog ng wharf diamond series...mas nagandahan ako sa mission...considering na entry level pa lang ung inaudition ko -m3 series. Ganda yan sa denon ;) goodluck!
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pre nung nag audition ako ng wharf vs mission..layo ng tunog ng wharf diamond series...mas nagandahan ako sa mission...considering na entry level pa lang ung inaudition ko -m3 series. Ganda yan sa denon ;) goodluck!
That's true, MV delivers seamless instrument and voice that's packed with detail. Although it presents a little bright in the treble, it manages treble with sweet but lively and fast sound. It also can produce deep and punchy bass.
Come to Sights and Sounds and audition both Mission and Wharfedale. I'm sure you will like Mission better than Wharfedale.
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the missions are easier to drive... ;)
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mag mission ka na lang. ::) :o
why? mas type ko lang. and true enough mas easier to drive plus if bright man tumunog ang MV, oks lang tutal may sub ka naman. let the sub do the punch.
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That's true, MV delivers seamless instrument and voice that's packed with detail. Although it presents a little bright in the treble, it manages treble with sweet but lively and fast sound. It also can produce deep and punchy bass.
Come to Sights and Sounds and audition both Mission and Wharfedale. I'm sure you will like Mission better than Wharfedale.
Since you'll be using it for 80% movies(talaga ha ;D) then its better na yung mission kunin mo. IMHE for movies mas maganda yung matining para mas accurate yung sound effects ;)
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you can try visit sir vic's shop (sights and sounds) they have those equipt for testing I think... same amp din yata :)
i tried both and they both sound very good. I like the music voices on the mission MV (good detail and forward sound... and recommended by most) .... although for my taste it was a tad bright (ayoko rin ng kasi ng mejo matining pag movies madali ako mairita sa mga loud scenes bigla ko na lang bababaan volume lalo na pag nakatulog ako hehehe) and I am more comfortable with laid-back sound
...if i build another setup i might also get the mission set. both are great for me... so you must try tlga kng ano ang mas suitable sa taste mo. (pwdeng mas popular ang brand na to pero in the long run your satisfaction is what matters)
...if it might also help, baka mas bagay sa denon yng mission (i had the yamaha then when i chose the wharfs)
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Go to a shop that carries both and choose the one you like better. Never mind if your choice is different from what's popular.
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try mo i-blind test para talagang fair. hayaan mo silang pagpalit-palitin ang speakers na nakapikit. at dapat same scene lang ng movie para patas ang laban, tapos post mo impression mo dito later. ;)
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That's true, MV delivers seamless instrument and voice that's packed with detail. Although it presents a little bright in the treble, it manages treble with sweet but lively and fast sound. It also can produce deep and punchy bass.
Come to Sights and Sounds and audition both Mission and Wharfedale. I'm sure you will like Mission better than Wharfedale.
Can you pm me price for the Mission and wharfedale speakers I mentioned above. Both in cash and card price
To all who replied. I appreciate the help and thank you very much for responding to my query in just a short time
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pre nung nag audition ako ng wharf vs mission..layo ng tunog ng wharf diamond series...mas nagandahan ako sa mission...considering na entry level pa lang ung inaudition ko -m3 series. Ganda yan sa denon ;) goodluck!
yup true! mas ok ang mission... kaso bumagsak din ako sa wharfs! ngek! 2yrs ago kasi malaki diff sa price eh, limited lang budget ko that time :( kainis! ???... pero very satisfied naman ako sa wharfs ko! sulit ika nga! ;D ;D ;D
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Go to a shop that carries both and choose the one you like better. Never mind if your choice is different from what's popular.
Well said bumblebee, well said ;D
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yup true! mas ok ang mission... kaso bumagsak din ako sa wharfs! ngek! 2yrs ago kasi malaki diff sa price eh, limited lang budget ko that time :(
Mas mura na ang Mission kasi mas magaling na ang bagong owner nito.
Mission was purchased by the Chinese company IAG (International Audio Group) in June 2005. If IAG didn't take over, baka bankrupt na ngayon ang Mission.
IAG is also the owner of Wharfedale speakers. http://www.iaguk.co.uk/
http://www.stereophile.com/news/062905iag/
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::) ::) ::)hopefully they will be able to maintain characteristics of the different brands even if it was bought by another company.
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let your ears and wallet decide.
try to audition using your denon avr ; speaker cables & interconnects ;dvd/cdp...
just remember the shop's showroom listening environment's acoustics still differs from your home listening room. whatever you hear at the shop may differ from what you hear when get home. it also depends if you believe in speaker "break-in" factor ;D
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Audition is really the key...all gears should be the same from cable to player to source and receiver. Synergy among gears is important for it to sound best. You're lucky that many AV stores carry Wharfe and Mission and have Denon 1909 as demo units since they are entry level gears. You'll have harder time auditioning if you're considering higher end brands (e.g. B&W 800, Dynaudio, Sonus Faber, Wilson, Revel) which you can audition at different stores, in different room condition and different set of gears. Ganyan ako dati.. wary mag-audition and basa-basa sa thread. But in the end, I realize I'm the one paying for the speakers so my satisfaction is the key rather than the opinions of others, no matter how popular they are. Good luck and remember to have fun! ;)
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sir ton2v :)
try to audition wharfedale evo 30 :)
i have fronts & center for 15k, 5k na lang may rear ka na so 20k all for 5 sets of speaker ;)
thanks
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sir ton2v :)
try to audition wharfedale evo 30 :)
i have fronts & center for 15k, 5k na lang may rear ka na so 20k all for 5 sets of speaker ;)
thanks
tama si bro sanmig, not to mention that the evo is a mid level speaker. so mas panalo ka dito ;)
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Again Thank you all for the suggestions and will try to consider your advices.
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if denon 1909 ang receiver and wharfedale diamond 9.5 maging ok kaya both sa music and ht?
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if you have an onkyo-wharfedale combo, which one should you change, the speaker or the avr?
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Speakers have more impact on the overall sound than amps. So if I'm not happy with my setup, I'll change the speakers first.
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ok din ang denon and mission setup. maganda din tumunog ang mission sa denon. imho mas neutral sounding pa ang denon kaysa onkyo when it comes to music. that's just me though.
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any initial reviews for the users who has the mission mv series already? i find the bookshelf model to be more musical. bas is more tight and accurate while the floorstander series has bigger bass output, but bass tends to roll off and not that tight and accurate since that the ported port is at the back and not in front....just my observations though.
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sir e-reply, care to add ur thoughts?
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also, the highs are a bit tingy...
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My current set-up is Yamaha paired with Wharfedale Diamond 8 Series. ;D A very good combination. However, I have heard in the past pairing Wharfes with Harman Kardon receivers are also a good combination. And most recently, I am upgrading to a Denon 1509 to be paired with the same Wharfes. Some of our memebers here who have both Denon and Wharfes say that the combination of the two is good. I am scheduled to do an audion of the Denon with Wharfes by the weekend. ;D
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sir e-reply, care to add ur thoughts?
You need a warm sounding receiver to drive Mission speakers. Mission MV series speakers might sound a bit bright and forward, but overall very musical.
On the other hand, except for the Diamond 9.1, which sounds very exciting both for movie and music, other Wharfedale Diamonds sounds vivid, immediate, and aggressive for movie but lack detail for music. There’s seems to be a lack of balance in mid and bass presentation, especially for the floorstanding speakers: the midrange, so crucial for vocal communication, sounds less articulative because of too overly pronounced bass.
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amigo, baka lang type mo iconsider speakers ni DIY_master (Anthony) ;)
"lokal" mo man syang sabihin pero try mo lang at baka sakali lang na medyo maiba ang ihip ng hangin. ;)
so happen lang kase na my 3 mains (from nerveblocker) made by Anthony.
sayang nga at di natuloy plan ko magpagawa sa kanya nung floorstander with solid Tangile wood ang sidings. :o ::) ??? kase nga nabili ko ng mura lang ang speaker ni Doc Mel.
hth
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advice ko lang... wag nakinig sa mga taong may RS6 o B&W.... buy what sounds nicer to you.
i agree, just for your info, i own B&W speakers
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You need a warm sounding receiver to drive Mission speakers. Mission MV series speakers might sound a bit bright and forward, but overall very musical.
On the other hand, except for the Diamond 9.1, which sounds very exciting both for movie and music, other Wharfedale Diamonds sounds vivid, immediate, and aggressive for movie but lack detail for music. There’s seems to be a lack of balance in mid and bass presentation, especially for the floorstanding speakers: the midrange, so crucial for vocal communication, sounds less articulative because of too overly pronounced bass.
Thanks for replying so soon. Would you mind doing a Mission MV and Wharf D9 setup comparo? Thanks again.
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Hi.
Will be connecting it directly to a DVD player for watching movies. The room is about 16 sq meters; and since we're trying to save some space, going separates will only be considered as the last option in case none of the these speakers can perform fairly :).
I will really appreciate hearing your opinion, feedback or experience about these speakers.
Thank you.
Chito
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f63/renrico/mx5021.jpg)
http://www.alteclansing.com/index.php?file=north_product_detail&iproduct_id=mx5021
or
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f63/renrico/promediagmxa21_2_large.jpg)
http://www.klipsch.com/products/details/promedia-gmx-a-2-1.aspx
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Hi Sir,
I've never owned the Altecs, but I had the Klipsch for about six months - my first audio gear, heh heh, paired with Ipod. Sounded good to me way back then.
Regards,
Romy
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Same price ba yan? If oo, I'd go for the Altecs, more aesthetically pleasing and it has three drivers compared to two in the Klipsch. And the Altec appears to have a remote.
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Same price ba yan? If oo, I'd go for the Altecs, more aesthetically pleasing and it has three drivers compared to two in the Klipsch. And the Altec appears to have a remote.
Thanks for the feedback. The Altec MX5021 is around P11k, while the Klipsch is around P9k...i think.
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Thanks for the feedback. The Altec MX5021 is around P11k, while the Klipsch is around P9k...i think.
You can 2.0 separates for < P11k. I'd rather go that route instead of getting computer speakers for movies. Final decision up to you of course. :)
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Hi Sir,
I've never owned the Altecs, but I had the Klipsch for about six months - my first audio gear, heh heh, paired with Ipod. Sounded good to me way back then.
Regards,
Romy
Thanks for sharing sir Romy. Yes, I have heard the Klipsch GMX for audio in the past and they do sound very good. I am not sure though if it will be the same experience if used for movies.
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hi,
i had a chance to audtion the klipsch promedia early last year. my initial impressions was that it sounded pretty good paired with my ipod however the second time i had auditioned the klipsch it was connected to a pioneer dvd player IMHO it had sounded a bit harsh and when we cranked up the volume this horn like sound came out from the speakers and became very noticeable the more the volume was increased. of course it will all depend on how loud you plan to play them. pls dont take my word for it, its still best that you audition for yourself. ;)
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hi,
i had a chance to audtion the klipsch promedia early last year. my initial impressions was that it sounded pretty good paired with my ipod however the second time i had auditioned the klipsch it was connected to a pioneer dvd player IMHO it had sounded a bit harsh and when we cranked up the volume this horn like sound came out from the speakers and became very noticeable the more the volume was increased. of course it will all depend on how loud you plan to play them. pls dont take my word for it, its still best that you audition for yourself. ;)
Thanks for sharing dexxx316. :) Will definitely keep that in mind.
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at 11k, I suggest you stretch your budget to around 15k, then wait around for a nice vintage integrated amp with over 80w/ch (Sansui or Onkyo) or get a used NAD, then pair that with Wharfedale Diamond 9.2. add any leftover funds for quality wall mount stands if you're really saving on space. this set-up might not have a sub, but look at it this way: those 6" drivers are still larger than the subs in both multimedia speakers. last June a friend brought his office's projector and watched movies using my spare Pioneer 355, NAD304 and Wharfedale Pi10's, man we needed to hear an actual HT sub before we'll admit that we need one. the mids were crisp enough, the drivers were large enough, that the multimedia sub we connected to the NAD's record output couldn't extend further down or loud enough to catch up to the Pi10's.
that, or you could use studio monitors like Samson R6a. "near-field" does not necessarily mean it should be smack in front of you.
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at 11k, I suggest you stretch your budget to around 15k, then wait around for a nice vintage integrated amp with over 80w/ch (Sansui or Onkyo) or get a used NAD, then pair that with Wharfedale Diamond 9.2. add any leftover funds for quality wall mount stands if you're really saving on space. this set-up might not have a sub, but look at it this way: those 6" drivers are still larger than the subs in both multimedia speakers. last June a friend brought his office's projector and watched movies using my spare Pioneer 355, NAD304 and Wharfedale Pi10's, man we needed to hear an actual HT sub before we'll admit that we need one. the mids were crisp enough, the drivers were large enough, that the multimedia sub we connected to the NAD's record output couldn't extend further down or loud enough to catch up to the Pi10's.
that, or you could use studio monitors like Samson R6a. "near-field" does not necessarily mean it should be smack in front of you.
Great feedback Sir...considering that i have a spare PI-10s at home. ;) I was a bit worried kasi a 2.0 set-up may not provide much bass versus the subs of the Altec or Klipsch. After hearing your comments, will strongly consider this approach. ;D
Thanks.
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Great feedback Sir...considering that i have a spare PI-10s at home. ;) I was a bit worried kasi a 2.0 set-up may not provide much bass versus the subs of the Altec or Klipsch. After hearing your comments, will strongly consider this approach. ;D
Thanks.
you already have spare Pi10's, you can allocate more funds to getting more powerful integrated amps. try them out with 100w/ch+ vintage Sansuis, or try the BADA SS Integrated Amp. already auditioned them in Audible Illusions with the Pi10's, that combo did not reach down the bass regions as much as with my 304 but dynamics are improved. vocals that tend to sound nasal sometimes with the NAD are a bit more natural overall with the BADA with the CDs I tried.
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you already have spare Pi10's, you can allocate more funds to getting more powerful integrated amps. try them out with 100w/ch+ vintage Sansuis, or try the BADA SS Integrated Amp. already auditioned them in Audible Illusions with the Pi10's, that combo did not reach down the bass regions as much as with my 304 but dynamics are improved. vocals that tend to sound nasal sometimes with the NAD are a bit more natural overall with the BADA with the CDs I tried.
Thanks sir. Will try to contact Sir Sonny.
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You can 2.0 separates for < P11k. I'd rather go that route instead of getting computer speakers for movies. Final decision up to you of course. :)
Thanks sir. Will still consider going separates 2.0 using my spare bookshelf speakers. :)
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for small room ok naman ang mx 5021. yan an gamit ko ngayon sa pc ko. medyo mahal nga lang yata sa 11k. san store ka tumingin?
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for small room ok naman ang mx 5021. yan an gamit ko ngayon sa pc ko. medyo mahal nga lang yata sa 11k. san store ka tumingin?
Just visited SM Appliance Store (Rockwell) this afternoon and they're selling the MX5021 at P12,500 -- 12 months 0% interest.
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for all pc multimedia gears, go to tipidpc or gilmore. mx5021 only sells for 6k to 6.5k brand new with 1 year warranty (tpc.com). installment plans are usually bull. just get the cash price and add the standard 12% to get an estimate if it is indeed suited for a 12 month plan.
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I've heard meron bnew GMX 2.1 selling for 5.5k only and yes 6.5k for the mx5021. I think both those speakers are sufficient for the size of your room for dvd and ipod. Both of them are very much comparable in SQ considering the price. I suggest you get the MX5021 because you can easily mount it to the wall which would save you a lot of space and also because of the remote control. But I would personally go for the klipsch if you have a rack and would not mind having to stand up to set the volume or if your DVD player has a volume control. For the price you are paying you really do get your money's worth. ;D
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ok lang ba yung setup na mission mv-4 yung fronts, mission mv-c yung center tapos wharfedale 9dfs yung surrounds? anybody who has this kind of setup?
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ok lang ba yung setup na mission mv-4 yung fronts, mission mv-c yung center tapos wharfedale 9dfs yung surrounds? anybody who has this kind of setup?
Since surround speakers need not be a tonal balance with front and center, you can either get Mission EH bipole speaker to match with MV series or use Wharfedale 9dfs dipole. Between 9dfs and EH, I will choose 9dfs that can create a wider soundfield because of dipole out of phase design.
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That's true, MV delivers seamless instrument and voice that's packed with detail. Although it presents a little bright in the treble, it manages treble with sweet but lively and fast sound. It also can produce deep and punchy bass.
Come to Sights and Sounds and audition both Mission and Wharfedale. I'm sure you will like Mission better than Wharfedale.
Am currently looking 4 speakers as well and have demoed both wharf and missions in the past.........missions were head and shoulders above the wharfs. Victor knows his Stufffffff! Like night and day. Missions all the way 4 me!!!!
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ok lang ba yung setup na mission mv-4 yung fronts, mission mv-c yung center tapos wharfedale 9dfs yung surrounds? anybody who has this kind of setup?
oks lang yan sa HT. It's ideal but not necessary to have a tonal match between the front and surround. having speakers from the same brand and line is a must if you're into multi-channel music (e.g. DVD-Audio)---that's 5 identical set of speakers.
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I would suggest that you get the speaker that is easier to drive since your amp doesn't have that much power to bring out the best in hard to drive speakers in a 20sqm room. If budget would allow, I find the Paradigm monitor series to be very good for ht. Very easy to drive too.
By the way, read that Theater works has Mission and Velo CHT sale. Audition as much as you can.
Enjoy the hunt!
Jason
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Am currently looking 4 speakers as well and have demoed both wharf and missions in the past.........missions were head and shoulders above the wharfs. Victor knows his Stufffffff! Like night and day. Missions all the way 4 me!!!!
Briefly Demoed the 9.5 vs the mv8 at Sns. The Wharfs had a richer sound with more pronounced bass although a little murrky in the midrange at higher volumes. The missions were very bright but lacking in bass. This demo was with any onkyo 606 and no sub.
Conclusion....no winner
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Briefly Demoed the 9.5 vs the mv8 at Sns. The Wharfs had a richer sound with more pronounced bass although a little muddy in the midrange at higher volumes. The missions were very bright but lacking in bass. This demo was with any onkyo 606 and no sub.
Conclusion....no winner
you might want to go for the polk tsi series. a little bit more expensive but definitely better sounding. i have the wharfedale diamond 9.6 and tsi 400 on display. :)
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Will be fixing my Bose 301 and using as fronts in my Ht. Need a nice pair of surrounds. Am thinking either a slightly used pair of bose 201 series IV or V or a new pair of Wharf diamond 9.1. My room is 25 Sq meters. Which is a better speaker and which would be better for my surrounds?
I repeat for surrounds!
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Will be fixing my Bose 301 and using as fronts in my Ht. Need a nice pair of surrounds. Am thinking either a slightly used pair of bose 201 or a new pair of Wharf diamond 9.1. My room is 25 Sq meters. Which is a better speaker and which would be better for my surrounds?
Am surprised that I did not get one response to this question. Had done a lot of research and the reviews for the Diamond 9.1 are very strong. The first review from a Pinoy says a mouthfull.
http://www.audioreview.com/mfr/wharfedale/bookshelf-speakers/diamond-9-1/PRD_336373_4290crx.aspx
and the reviews for the Bose 201 seies IV also tell a tale.
http://www.audioreview.com/mfr/bose/bookshelf-speakers/201-series-iv/PRD_120878_4290crx.aspx
Bose 201 series V
http://www.audioreview.com/mfr/bose/bookshelf-speakers/201-series-v/PRD_172168_4290crx.aspx#reviews
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Listening is subjective. Better in terms of what?
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Listening is subjective. Better in terms of what?
You are correct. Listening is subjective but most people have an opinion from there years of experiences with various brands and models and can easily comment on those. But in terms of "better" what I mean is in respect to the sound quality produced from Bass,treble and midrange when played at various volumes for both music and HT. A comparrison of build quality and materials used would be nice as well.
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hi danniel,
have you considered having dipole as surrounds? a lot of choices are available.
just my two cents....thanks
MITCH
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hi danniel,
have you considered having dipole as surrounds? a lot of choices are available.
just my two cents....thanks
MITCH
yes did consider it but prefer direct firing and keeping options open for future changes.
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go for the bose 201 na since bose na rin naman ang fronts.
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go for the bose 201 na since bose na rin naman ang fronts.
Ivannn....That was was my original contention as well but had been told that no there is no "dire" need to match fronts (timber wise) with surrounds.
Also I have very limited space for my surrounds and unfortunately the bose 201 (like my bose 301) are best situated horizontally. They just take up to much room.
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Ivannn....That was was my original contention as well but had been told that no there is no "dire" need to match fronts (timber wise) with surrounds.
Also I have very limited space for my surrounds and unfortunately the bose 201 (like my bose 301) are best situated horizontally. They just take up to much room.
yup yup pero for aesthetic purposes since bose na ang fronts. no harm na rin naman in going for bose for surrounds. :)
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yup yup pero for aesthetic purposes since bose na ang fronts. no harm na rin naman in going for bose for surrounds. :)
yup yup bose would look great if I had the room........so will go with the wharfes as they will take up much less room, will still sound great and will cost much less money.
New bose 201...cost aprox 13,000
New Wharfes.....cost aprox 5,500
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go for the 9.1. it'll sound good enough and it's cheaper. i can give you a good deal on the 9.1. :)
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yup yup bose would look great if I had the room........so will go with the wharfes as they will take up much less room, will still sound great and will cost much less money.
New bose 201...cost aprox 13,000
New Wharfes.....cost aprox 5,500
goodluck sir! contact mo si sir avshop and he gives very good prices :)
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Hello,
I'm planning to have an audio setup for my theater; which is better, Paradigm or Focal?
I have auditioned both sets, and both of them are very remarkable in terms of performance.
Pls. give as much feedback/review as you can to help me make my decision. Thank You
PARADIGM FOCAL
Fronts: Monitor 11 ------------------------------------------ Chorus 726V
Center: CC-190 ------------------------------------------ CC 700V
Surrounds: ADP-390 ------------------------------------------- SR 700V
Subs: Ultracube ------------------------------------------ SW 700V
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Hello,
I'm planning to have an audio setup for my theater; which is better, Paradigm or Focal?
I have auditioned both sets, and both of them are very remarkable in terms of performance.
Pls. give as much feedback/review as you can to help me make my decision. Thank You
PARADIGM FOCAL
Fronts: Monitor 11 ------------------------------------------ Chorus 726V
Center: CC-190 ------------------------------------------ CC 700V
Surrounds: ADP-390 ------------------------------------------- SR 700V
Subs: Ultracube ------------------------------------------ SW 700V
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How big is your room? What are the dimensions?
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it's about 50 sq. meters
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Both choices are pretty good, except for the subwoofers. 50 square meters is very big. The subs that have been recommended are tiny for that room.
You might want to take a look at some DIY subs here at Pinoydvd. With the size of your room, you may need 2 x 15" subs. By the way, what's the height of the ceiling?
The other critical component will be the AVR. If you don't have one yet, get the biggest Denon you can afford, so that you can use Audyssey room correction. It will make a huge difference.
Good luck!
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yes i was planning to get 2 subs from either both brands
i don't have an avr yet.. but i'll be getting the denon 2809 or onkyo 706, i was told that both performs just about the same.. do they have the audyssey room correction you were referring?
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yes i was planning to get 2 subs from either both brands
i don't have an avr yet.. but i'll be getting the denon 2809 or onkyo 706, i was told that both performs just about the same.. do they have the audyssey room correction you were referring?
Both have Audyssey room correction but the Denon 2809 is much better than the Onkyo 706. The Audyssey version of the 2809 has 8x more filters for the main speakers.
Focal is not known for its subs. Not very good and quite expensive. If you want branded subs, I suggest you look at the SVS subs of MikeC. Probably the best value for money right now. Mike has his own thread somewhere in this forum.
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yes you're right about the focal subs, not very impressed with it and their prices are steep as well.
and in the case of the surrounds
this is the paradigm's:
(http://www.ietheater.com/images/prod/405742608110_ADP390_v5_ng_lg.jpg)
and this are the focal's 700 series surround:
(http://www.uptownaudio.com/jmlab/focal_chorus-SR700V_small.jpg)
and by just looking at them i'm already leaning towards the paradigm
actually i got a pm from mikec on SVS.. never heard of the brand though but im interested to find out
btw.. thanx for your input streetsmart :)
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The surrounds are not that critical. I have 2 pairs of Paradigm ADP-370 while my friend has 2 pairs of Focals. Both are pretty ok.
SVS is not well-known here because it is a US brand that only sells direct to customers. It's quality and value for money are tough to beat. Mike C was apponted Philippine distributor very recently but even here, Mike can't use dealers. He has to sell direct.
If you have time, you could join an EB at my HT this coming May 2. The link is below. Just sign up. I have a Denon 3808 CI. My LCR speakers are PSB while all the rest are Paradigms (including 2 big subs). Huge 133" screen. Pretty high-end.
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=94734.30
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if youll be using this system solely for HT, go for the digms.
these are very easy to drive and regardless of your room size, with the models youve shortlisted, the system would shake the house down :)
the focals are very good as well kaya lang i dont think theyll be as easy as the digms to drive.
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Guys here, I'm a little bit confused between these two speakers.
Which would you choose between the two for listening to stereo only, any type of music.
Both are British speakers, but which is better?
The price must also be considered. Wharf 9.1 is around 5k and MA BR2 is around 12k.
Which speakers sounds best at its price?
These two speakers get the most positive reviews.
But If you are in my place, which speaker I must buy?
The Wharfedale Diamond 9.1
(http://www.head-fi.org/forums/members/valiente-albums-valiente-album-picture2464-wharfedale-9-1.jpg)
or The Monitor Audio BR 2
(http://www.head-fi.org/forums/members/valiente-albums-valiente-album-picture2465-ma-br2.jpg)
Guys please vote!
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this is a no brainer, i'd go for br2 anytime. i'v heard them sing side by side and i think it's bec they're not in the same price range. goodluck bro!
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this is a no brainer, i'd go for br2 anytime. i'v heard them sing side by side and i think it's bec they're not in the same price range. goodluck bro!
x2
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this is a no brainer, i'd go for br2 anytime. i'v heard them sing side by side and i think it's bec they're not in the same price range. goodluck bro!
Actually, in the UK, they are.
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MA BR2. Wider soundstage, deeper bass, detailed, unfatiguing (not bright to my ears), not fussy about setup, better looking and a tad bigger than Wharfedale 9.1
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if i were in your place... i'd audition them side by side and get the one that's more pleasing to my ears.
you'll be the one listening to it so let your ears be the judge.
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Actually, in the UK, they are.
Bumblebee, what do you mean by "they are". They are of the same price?
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I've heard them both, and I'm all for the BR2 sound. Not that the Wharfs are bad, they're good too, but my preference is the classier sound of the BR2.
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Bumblebee, what do you mean by "they are". They are of the same price?
yan na malapit na bumili ng speakers si valiente!
i think that what he meant was wharfedales are expensive in the UK or even in other countries. so pretty much they are in the same price range in a global perspective ;)
were lucky that wharfes are affordable in the philippines. however even if wharfes are UK speakers china made pa rin naman sila diba likewise with other speakers (ex.missions) ewan ko lang if the MAs are china made?
the MA BR2 looks good, sounds even better ;D but since your question also includes "Which speakers sounds best at its price?" wharfes gets it hands down. pang floor stander na ng wharfe yung presyo ng MA BR2 ::)
but if i were to choose ill take the MA BR2 except if it's vs the 9.1 annivesary edition.
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh282/juric_0404/wharfedale-diamond-nine-point-one-a.jpg)
dont forget to consider what amp to pair it with ;)
goodluck!
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more pics of the anniv edition ;)
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh282/juric_0404/wharf75.jpg) (http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh282/juric_0404/41T1ss1WuTL_SS500_.jpg)
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh282/juric_0404/P1011988.jpg) (http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh282/juric_0404/wharfedale-diamond-9point1-rear.jpg)
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh282/juric_0404/2007awards.jpg)
ganda diba! looks wise it gives the BR2 a run for its money...sabagay mas mahal naman siguro itong anniv ed.
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Bumblebee, what do you mean by "they are". They are of the same price?
Same price range.
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I know that this has nothing to do with the thread topic, and I do apologize for going off topic. why don't you consider the bookself speakers that Polk Audio has to offer. You can check out the following:
- TSI100
- TSi200
- RTi A1
- Rti A3
You can view the details at www.polkaudio.com. Polk Audio is available at most reputable AV stores.
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Sir Valiente, it would help if you can tell us what amplifier are you using and how many watts it is capable of! Also, the size of your room and type of music (specifics please).
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monitor audio! ........ a friend is swearing by the good quality of his BR2 speakers .......
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so that's already 6-0 for the BR2 but have you ever considered (OT) the klipsch RB10 :) which is also a looker almost at the same price range as the BR2.
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh282/juric_0404/klipschrb10.jpg)
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh282/juric_0404/107414.jpg)
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh282/juric_0404/P1011988.jpg)
ang gaganda nila noh ;D
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just to give you an idea between the MAB2(not the BR2) and the Diamond 9.1,pls check
the link below
http://www.avreview.co.uk/news/article/mps/uan/474
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Let's enjoy these pics first!
(http://www.head-fi.org/forums/members/valiente-albums-valiente-album-picture2520-img-4790.jpg)
(http://www.head-fi.org/forums/members/valiente-albums-valiente-album-picture2521-img-4792.jpg)
(http://www.head-fi.org/forums/members/valiente-albums-valiente-album-picture2522-img-4794.jpg)
(http://www.head-fi.org/forums/members/valiente-albums-valiente-album-picture2523-img-4797.jpg)
(http://www.head-fi.org/forums/members/valiente-albums-valiente-album-picture2524-img-4798.jpg)
(http://www.head-fi.org/forums/members/valiente-albums-valiente-album-picture2525-img-4800.jpg)
(http://www.head-fi.org/forums/members/valiente-albums-valiente-album-picture2526-img-4802.jpg)
(http://www.head-fi.org/forums/members/valiente-albums-valiente-album-picture2527-img-4804.jpg)
(http://www.head-fi.org/forums/members/valiente-albums-valiente-album-picture2528-img-4806.jpg)
(http://www.head-fi.org/forums/members/valiente-albums-valiente-album-picture2529-img-4811.jpg)
(http://www.head-fi.org/forums/members/valiente-albums-valiente-album-picture2530-img-4812.jpg)
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Congrats on your purchase! 5.25-inch drivers ang BR2 diba?
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Let's enjoy these pics first!
(http://www.head-fi.org/forums/members/valiente-albums-valiente-album-picture2520-img-4790.jpg)
(http://www.head-fi.org/forums/members/valiente-albums-valiente-album-picture2521-img-4792.jpg)
(http://www.head-fi.org/forums/members/valiente-albums-valiente-album-picture2522-img-4794.jpg)
(http://www.head-fi.org/forums/members/valiente-albums-valiente-album-picture2523-img-4797.jpg)
(http://www.head-fi.org/forums/members/valiente-albums-valiente-album-picture2524-img-4798.jpg)
(http://www.head-fi.org/forums/members/valiente-albums-valiente-album-picture2525-img-4800.jpg)
(http://www.head-fi.org/forums/members/valiente-albums-valiente-album-picture2526-img-4802.jpg)
(http://www.head-fi.org/forums/members/valiente-albums-valiente-album-picture2527-img-4804.jpg)
(http://www.head-fi.org/forums/members/valiente-albums-valiente-album-picture2528-img-4806.jpg)
(http://www.head-fi.org/forums/members/valiente-albums-valiente-album-picture2529-img-4811.jpg)
(http://www.head-fi.org/forums/members/valiente-albums-valiente-album-picture2530-img-4812.jpg)
fantastic choice Valiente! yung aurum cantus stands naman ;D
congrats!
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Great choice!
I also have a pair of BR2 speakers and are using them near-field. The thing I love about them is that I can listen to them for hours and not get a headache and still be able to sound detailed and punchy.
My only complaint about is that it is over-emphasized at around 120Hz as well as certain mid-frequencies in my room.
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Guys, OT lang, looking for a great entry level priced but mid level performance speakers, read diy masters thread on the proac clone. Better,audition one and you'll be in for a lot of surprise ! ;D I never suggest speakers before but I want to share this great find to help others find a true value speakers. Thanks. :)
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just wanted to bump this thread for those still interested in the topic.
i recently was able to audition side by side the mission's MV-8 and the wharfedale 9.5 it was an AB comparison in a non-acoustically treated room. it was a short distanced audition but the pair of speakers are like 6 feet apart.
here are my amaturish thoughts :)
both speakers are below 15k and are both good enough for its price to performance ratio. i was able to audition it paired with a NAD amp, specific model i can't recall but, i remebered the sales rep. saying it's 80wpc.
i picked-out the MV-8 first, it is slimmer in size compared to the wharfedale diamond 9.5 which look the heftier floorstaner.
the intro on the audiophile cd were chimes and high hat cymbals which sounded pretty impressive. the vocals and mids were sharp but sounded a bit thin. first thing that came to mid was maybe because it was the frail built and the small driver it used but said to myself to conclude later and listen first ;D i moved on to the next track where there were more bass injected in the music but i lacked the ummp...i though of it's built again ::) but that's just me being subjective ;D on a positive note, overall i'd say the speakers are musical and would sound well in a small room at low level listening.
i now moved on to the wharfedale diamond 9.5 it's at 88db sensitivity vs the 91db of the MV-8 but i guess 80wpc would'nt have a problem driving these speakers. by simply looking at it, with a widder bodied cabinet and a 6.5 woofer it would eat the MV-8 alive ;D . playing the same track the intro on the chimes and cymbals were not as impressive as the MV-8. it's not as bright and forwarding. the mids on the vocals are however smoother and airy. playing the next track as expected the drums and bass are tighter than the MV-8 and the ummmp that i was lacking with the MV-8 was there. comparing the 2 i think this would fair better in both music and movies.
the way i heard it, there was a night and day difference between the 2. there was a good reflection with the 9.5 that i cannot hear with the MV-8.
though both are good brands and both reasonably priced they have different characteristics and strengths.
visually i liked the MV-8 but auditory it's the 9.5 ;D
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^ I second the motion :D
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thanks, bro. john. we have been really wanting to hear an opinion between these two brands' (almost) same offerings. thanks. yours is the kind of review/opinion that we've been waiting for.
i have to agree with your assessment of the 9.5. right now i have it partnered with a h/k5550 avr. musically, wala naman ako masasabi... just don't compare to the more detailed speakers, especially since these are both warm sounding components. i think it will improve though once i have managed to replace the x'over capacitors. sa movies naman, there is the depth to the mix especially partnered with a good sub. it is in imaging though that is parang kulang, especially since there really is no enhanced DD or DTS processing yung H/K ko.
and that's why i'm considering the mission mv8 in the hope i can get a bit more vertical lift to the sound in movies. thanks again.
visually i liked the MV-8 but auditory it's the 9.5 ;D
i like my cherry-colored d9.5, but i am also attracted to the mv8 rosewood. 8)
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;D thanks guys.
i am a fan of both brands ;D they have great looking speakers, it's well built, reasonably priced and good sounding ;D
taking it to another level, my other personal opinion and advise for those choosing between the 2 brands is to also compare the wharfedale 9 series vs. the mission M3 series.
the mission M3 series are now being heavily discounted giving the 9 series a run for its money!
it may be OT on this thread but i think it would be a better match (wharfedale diamond 9.5/9.6 vs. mission M34i) ;D
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just wanted to bump this thread for those still interested in the topic.
i recently was able to audition side by side the mission's MV-8 and the wharfedale 9.5 it was an AB comparison in a non-acoustically treated room. it was a short distanced audition but the pair of speakers are like 6 feet apart.
here are my amaturish thoughts :)
both speakers are below 15k and are both good enough for its price to performance ratio. i was able to audition it paired with a NAD amp, specific model i can't recall but, i remebered the sales rep. saying it's 80wpc.
i picked-out the MV-8 first, it is slimmer in size compared to the wharfedale diamond 9.5 which look the heftier floorstaner.
the intro on the audiophile cd were chimes and high hat cymbals which sounded pretty impressive. the vocals and mids were sharp but sounded a bit thin. first thing that came to mid was maybe because it was the frail built and the small driver it used but said to myself to conclude later and listen first ;D i moved on to the next track where there were more bass injected in the music but i lacked the ummp...i though of it's built again ::) but that's just me being subjective ;D on a positive note, overall i'd say the speakers are musical and would sound well in a small room at low level listening.
i now moved on to the wharfedale diamond 9.5 it's at 88db sensitivity vs the 91db of the MV-8 but i guess 80wpc would'nt have a problem driving these speakers. by simply looking at it, with a widder bodied cabinet and a 6.5 woofer it would eat the MV-8 alive ;D . playing the same track the intro on the chimes and cymbals were not as impressive as the MV-8. it's not as bright and forwarding. the mids on the vocals are however smoother and airy. playing the next track as expected the drums and bass are tighter than the MV-8 and the ummmp that i was lacking with the MV-8 was there. comparing the 2 i think this would fair better in both music and movies.
the way i heard it, there was a night and day difference between the 2. there was a good reflection with the 9.5 that i cannot hear with the MV-8.
though both are good brands and both reasonably priced they have different characteristics and strengths.
visually i liked the MV-8 but auditory it's the 9.5 ;D
Great review brader john ;D
If you get another chance of auditioning both speakers again in the future, do so.......however, try it with another amp. Nad amplifiers have so much coloration in them that it influences the speakers thats connected to them.
Hopefully, you can get a chance to audition them with a more neutral amp.
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thanks brader mac!
dun nga rin papunta ang pala isipan ko eh.
"how to audition for an amp"? im also contemplating on mid.level receivers for HT kaso halos lahat naman sila same features lang. di ko pa nga lang naririnig pag ni mix and match sila kung anu ang inconsistency ng matching, warm, bright etc... ;D
pero next time nalang yun ;D ayusin ko muna audio set-up :D
parang maganda yung monos na dared vp-20 noh ::)
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i picked-out the MV-8 first, it is slimmer in size compared to the wharfedale diamond 9.5 which look the heftier floorstaner.
the intro on the audiophile cd were chimes and high hat cymbals which sounded pretty impressive. the vocals and mids were sharp but sounded a bit thin. first thing that came to mid was maybe because it was the frail built and the small driver it used but said to myself to conclude later and listen first ;D i moved on to the next track where there were more bass injected in the music but i lacked the ummp...i though of it's built again ::) but that's just me being subjective ;D on a positive note, overall i'd say the speakers are musical and would sound well in a small room at low level listening.
i already heard the mv8 when i bought my marantz semi-vintage receiver. it did sound more shrill comparing to the 9.5 but the mids and lows were there. we even checked if there's any equalizer coz of the pronounced highs and low presence and there's none. the marantz amp doesn't even have any tone control. it did impress on first audition though i did feel also that it can get tiring on long listens. i still can't say with certainty which one i prefer since i haven't heard my 9.5 yet through the marantz. all i can say is that they both sound musical, but it is for ht that i am taking a look at the mv's.
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i already heard the mv8 when i bought my marantz semi-vintage receiver. it did sound more shrill comparing to the 9.5 but the mids and lows were there. we even checked if there's any equalizer coz of the pronounced highs and low presence and there's none. the marantz amp doesn't even have any tone control. it did impress on first audition though i did feel also that it can get tiring on long listens. i still can't say with certainty which one i prefer since i haven't heard my 9.5 yet through the marantz. all i can say is that they both sound musical, but it is for ht that i am taking a look at the mv's.
i think it's a good speaker (specially pag na discount na on srp) meron nga talagang sigurong amp na babagay dyan kaso most buyer naman on a budget would also go for a budget amp or same price range ratio.
i agree with "it can get tiring on long listens." i can just imagine pairing it with a warm sounding characteristic tube amp.
i wonder if a sub can balance it out for HT? ::)
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Based on what I've heard, sa Focal ako. Very neutral at natural ang presentation for me.
Too bassy para saken ang mga narinig kong Paradigm speaks, though they are still wonderful to listen to. I'm sure marami din mas gusto ang ganito for movies.
Go with what you like bro. :)
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I have to agree with Stagea. Focal for me. Very Detailed and transparent.
But since you will use it more for your HT setup, the Paradigm may have some advantages as well. It can get real low and loud.
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I think magkalayo naman ng presyo yan dalawa na yan...so parang nd Orange for an orange comparison [email protected]. dyan sa line up mo sa Paradigm nd match yan center mo...for a Monitor11 at least get the CC390.
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Hello,
anybody here familiar with these speakers (drivers), what is the best choice between the two? the sonic performance? i am planning to replace my ONKYO D-032AX bs drivers, as these two are excellent and efficient drivers for tubes and class A ss amps. any price info? Please enlighten.... ???
Cheers 2 all :)
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I would not recommend either of them as direct replacement drivers for speakers (enclosure and crossovers) that were not designed around them. Otherwise, they will surely sound anemic in the bass region, and peaky in the midrange and treble regions.
If you're looking for drivers as direct replacements, you will be better of with with drivers that have parameters close to your original drivers. Try JBL, or even pro-audio drivers if efficiency is high on your priorities.
If you insist on using Fostex or Lowther, you will be better off building custom enclosures for them. They will benefit from large ported enclosures, horn-loaded enclosures, or transmission line enclosures so as to augment their bass.
By the way, Lowther is very expensive. I don't know of a local distributor, but I remember that they cost at least $500 a pair when I inquired at a shop in Taipei 3 years ago.
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if im not mistaken, you can check both lowther and fostex drivers at silver strings at westave.
eto link sa kabila > http://www.wiredstate.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=32
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wraith & ojofool,
thanx for the info guys, also got info that a pair costs 10k +, I think i"ll stick around with my onkyo for a while ;D, anyway they sound great with the jamo subs.
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come to the shop and compare the b&w 683 with the jbl studio L890. :)
shop is located at unit 205 amaremca bldg, 107a kalayaan avenue, diliman, quezon city. :)
we're open wednesday to sunday, 11am to 8pm :)
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has anyone made side by side, A/B comparison?
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I'm currently in the process of upgrading my HT system and I'd like to ask some questions regarding the speakers mentioned.
Which would you choose Mission MV6 or Polk Tsi 300? I know na masmura yung MV6 but not by alot.
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imho if the comparission is just between the 2. it's tsi 300 hands down.
try to read some of the comparison and reviews on some of the older threads between tsi 300 vs the mv8.
also try to audition both or better yet all other brands in your budgeted price range.
goodluck!
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Most of Mission's latest models (specially Mv6) is quite disappointing. It didn't live up to the aesthetics and SQ of its previous "England" models. I have seen and heard how this tsi's perform and I am really impressed. I am a "Mission loyalist" but this time comparing between the two - I'd say "Go for Polk".
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@JohnE, danrd - thanks for input... i'm actually leaning toward polk, but for the price of the mission... its just too hard to ignore, I'll most probably try to audition the two speakers before I make a final decision.
You guys mentioned to audition other speakers in the same price range, other than polk (tsi300) and mission (MV6) what other speakers could you guys recommend? (15 to 20Thou price range)
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I'm currently in the process of upgrading my HT system and I'd like to ask some questions regarding the speakers mentioned.
Which would you choose Mission MV6 or Polk Tsi 300? I know na masmura yung MV6 but not by alot.
sir try also the infinity primus series at avshop's place together with the tsi 300's para macompare side by side. ;)
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di ba mahal yung infinity na speakers? how much yung primus?
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di ba mahal yung infinity na speakers? how much yung primus?
the infinity primus 362 is 24k. its very good. come by the shop to check them out. :)
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@JohnE, danrd - thanks for input... i'm actually leaning toward polk, but for the price of the mission... its just too hard to ignore, I'll most probably try to audition the two speakers before I make a final decision.
You guys mentioned to audition other speakers in the same price range, other than polk (tsi300) and mission (MV6) what other speakers could you guys recommend? (15 to 20Thou price range)
PM sent ;)
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just want to share my experience on a great find, ive auditioned paradigm atom, minimonitor, titan, psb, wharfedale 9.1, 9.3, 9.5, and polk audio tsi 100, 200 and 300, i must say that my favorite is the tsi 300, very nice mids, vocals are really great, smooth sweet highs, palpable bass with oomph,wide soundstage, nice separation. that was before, until i heard a pair of floorstanding speaker that says COAX. a diy speaker that breaks the boundaries of sonic reproduction, (di naman masyadong exage noh ;D) just audition it, to hear it yourself! when i heard it, it made me speechless for a couple of minutes, after the audition, i made sure that i left the place with the speakers at the backseat of my car. warning (ingat po sa barang)
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just want to share my experience on a great find, ive auditioned paradigm atom, minimonitor, titan, psb, wharfedale 9.1, 9.3, 9.5, and polk audio tsi 100, 200 and 300, i must say that my favorite is the tsi 300, very nice mids, vocals are really great, smooth sweet highs, palpable bass with oomph,wide soundstage, nice separation. that was before, until i heard a pair of floorstanding speaker that says COAX. a diy speaker that breaks the boundaries of sonic reproduction, (di naman masyadong exage noh ;D) just audition it, to hear it yourself! when i heard it, it made me speechless for a couple of minutes, after the audition, i made sure that i left the place with the speakers at the backseat of my car. warning (ingat po sa barang)
how much kuha mo Sir ng coax kay Bro. Anthony? papm n lang Sir...tia
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im building my 2nd audio set up..speaker na lag po kulang..
im planning to get either of these 2 by next week...
paradigm
titan monitor V6
or
b&w
685 or dm 602 series3..
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Why don't you consider the Polk Audio RTi A7 floorstanding speakers.
im building my 2nd audio set up..speaker na lag po kulang..
im planning to get either of these 2 by next week...
paradigm
titan monitor V6
or
b&w
685 or dm 602 series3..
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The Polk Audio TSi300 is amazing, but if you audition the Polk Audio RTi A7, you will be very impressed.
just want to share my experience on a great find, ive auditioned paradigm atom, minimonitor, titan, psb, wharfedale 9.1, 9.3, 9.5, and polk audio tsi 100, 200 and 300, i must say that my favorite is the tsi 300, very nice mids, vocals are really great, smooth sweet highs, palpable bass with oomph,wide soundstage, nice separation. that was before, until i heard a pair of floorstanding speaker that says COAX. a diy speaker that breaks the boundaries of sonic reproduction, (di naman masyadong exage noh ;D) just audition it, to hear it yourself! when i heard it, it made me speechless for a couple of minutes, after the audition, i made sure that i left the place with the speakers at the backseat of my car. warning (ingat po sa barang)
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any take on the pros and cons between the two?
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im building my 2nd audio set up..speaker na lag po kulang..
im planning to get either of these 2 by next week...
paradigm
titan monitor V6
or
b&w
685 or dm 602 series3..
youll be using the speakers with what amps/preamps/cdp/cart?
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sir, il be using
rotel 1062 integ amp.
rcd 06- (for the meantine)...
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sir pa list naman ng mga speaker brands na locally available.. ;D
need ko lang po sa pag reresearch ko, para i know mga differences in advance before some audition
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sir pa list naman ng mga speaker brands na locally available.. ;D
need ko lang po sa pag reresearch ko, para i know mga differences in advance before some audition
check out the marketplace, speakers threads.
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sir, il be using
rotel 1062 integ amp.
rcd 06- (for the meantine)...
if youll be sticking with rotel, better secure the best B&W speakers that you can afford.
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if youll be sticking with rotel, better secure the best B&W speakers that you can afford.
Agree w/ Alan, Rotel matches well w/ B&W, good luck! :D
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Agree w/ Alan, Rotel matches well w/ B&W, good luck! :D
you two, are right sir...
ROTEL + 600 series = will impress you right at first time...BUT....??
any way..ill go with the titans..thanks for the insights..
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ROTEL + 600 series = will impress you right at first time...BUT....??
but what sir? care to share?
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@mak_mak
sir anong titan? music fidelity titan power amp?
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good day sirs, i'm a newbie here
sir, anong comments nyo sa paradigms speakers?
eto po set up ko
front: paradigm atom
rear: paradigm cinema 90
center: phase tech teatro 6.5
sub: paradigm PDR 10
amp: HK avr20II (yup luma po ito, mas ok po para sa akin ito since more on audio listening po ako)
:D
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come to the shop and compare the polk tsi 400, tsi 300, infinity primus 362, b&w 683, rti a7 and wharf 10.5. :)
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good day sirs, i'm a newbie here
sir, anong comments nyo sa paradigms speakers?
:D
nice bass, very efficient, big footprint, decent sound.
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paradigm..titan V6..exceptional..nothing compares at that price range...
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come to the shop and compare the polk tsi 400, tsi 300, infinity primus 362, b&w 683, rti a7 and wharf 10.5. :)
that's the best thing to do! audition but dont' ask for the price, ask for it after listening to all.
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I have been going around auditioning bookshelf as much as I can. First and foremost I wish to thank the people who accommodate their customers and make them feel special, makes you want to get their products even more.Among them is Wilfred of AV Driver Int'l., Noel of Audio Amplified, Joel of AVX Harrison Plaza, Marvin of JBL megamall and Nino of Spectra in Park Square. They would make you feel like you can afford and want to buy the products they offer, and I really if I just could ;D, I would definitely recommend them without a second thought. And while I have been to several others, the service is just average or less than pleasurable(makes you feel like they don't have time for you or you can't afford their products). I have just been to Manila, Makati and Pasig area so far and would still check out other brands in the Q.C. area soon.
I am a newbie so I try to learn and absorb as much as I can, so far, my container cannot fathom the things involved in this hobby, love or passion for great sound. I and building a decent sound system for myself and will primarily be used for music with the option to play HT occasionally. I am still confused if I should get a Denon 1909/1910 or just go for a dedicated stereo such as NAD and devote it for music alone(but that is another issue). For now let us talk speakers.
I have heard Wharfdale(diamond 9 series), Paradigm(atom, mini monitor), B&W(685), Arum Ventus( F-series and leasure 2sv), Mission(M31i and M32i), Infinity(Primus), Focal(Chorus 705V and 806V), Mordaunt Short, Bose and maybe one or two more I have missed out. So far I am very much impressed with Focal particularly the Chorus 806V among all others with the B&W 685 a close second, but the prices are beyond me at the moment and I am considering several others. Among them are the Mission M32i, the Paradigm Mini Monitor and Arum Cantus' Leasure 2SV. Is there any other within this price range that I should check out?
among my choices, which would you prefer?
should I just save up a bit more and give in to Focal?
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Check out the PSB Image B25, Polk RTi A3, Mordaunt Short Aviano 2 and Tannoy Mercury F1. :)
I have been going around auditioning bookshelf as much as I can. First and foremost I wish to thank the people who accommodate their customers and make them feel special, makes you want to get their products even more.Among them is Wilfred of AV Driver Int'l., Noel of Audio Amplified, Joel of AVX Harrison Plaza, Marvin of JBL megamall and Nino of Spectra in Park Square. They would make you feel like you can afford and want to buy the products they offer, and I really if I just could ;D, I would definitely recommend them without a second thought. And while I have been to several others, the service is just average or less than pleasurable(makes you feel like they don't have time for you or you can't afford their products). I have just been to Manila, Makati and Pasig area so far and would still check out other brands in the Q.C. area soon.
I am a newbie so I try to learn and absorb as much as I can, so far, my container cannot fathom the things involved in this hobby, love or passion for great sound. I and building a decent sound system for myself and will primarily be used for music with the option to play HT occasionally. I am still confused if I should get a Denon 1909/1910 or just go for a dedicated stereo such as NAD and devote it for music alone(but that is another issue). For now let us talk speakers.
I have heard Wharfdale(diamond 9 series), Paradigm(atom, mini monitor), B&W(685), Arum Ventus( F-series and leasure 2sv), Mission(M31i and M32i), Infinity(Primus), Focal(Chorus 705V and 806V), Mordaunt Short, Bose and maybe one or two more I have missed out. So far I am very much impressed with Focal particularly the Chorus 806V among all others with the B&W 685 a close second, but the prices are beyond me at the moment and I am considering several others. Among them are the Mission M32i, the Paradigm Mini Monitor and Arum Cantus' Leasure 2SV. Is there any other within this price range that I should check out?
among my choices, which would you prefer?
should I just save up a bit more and give in to Focal?
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thank you stagea, I have heard the PSB and Mordant Short. I will check the RTi and maybe the Tannoy too. thank you. among these which do you find impressive?
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I have been going around auditioning bookshelf as much as I can. First and foremost I wish to thank the people who accommodate their customers and make them feel special, makes you want to get their products even more.Among them is Wilfred of AV Driver Int'l., Noel of Audio Amplified, Joel of AVX Harrison Plaza, Marvin of JBL megamall and Nino of Spectra in Park Square. They would make you feel like you can afford and want to buy the products they offer, and I really if I just could ;D, I would definitely recommend them without a second thought. And while I have been to several others, the service is just average or less than pleasurable(makes you feel like they don't have time for you or you can't afford their products). I have just been to Manila, Makati and Pasig area so far and would still check out other brands in the Q.C. area soon.
I am a newbie so I try to learn and absorb as much as I can, so far, my container cannot fathom the things involved in this hobby, love or passion for great sound. I and building a decent sound system for myself and will primarily be used for music with the option to play HT occasionally. I am still confused if I should get a Denon 1909/1910 or just go for a dedicated stereo such as NAD and devote it for music alone(but that is another issue). For now let us talk speakers.
I have heard Wharfdale(diamond 9 series), Paradigm(atom, mini monitor), B&W(685), Arum Ventus( F-series and leasure 2sv), Mission(M31i and M32i), Infinity(Primus), Focal(Chorus 705V and 806V), Mordaunt Short, Bose and maybe one or two more I have missed out. So far I am very much impressed with Focal particularly the Chorus 806V among all others with the B&W 685 a close second, but the prices are beyond me at the moment and I am considering several others. Among them are the Mission M32i, the Paradigm Mini Monitor and Arum Cantus' Leasure 2SV. Is there any other within this price range that I should check out?
among my choices, which would you prefer?
should I just save up a bit more and give in to Focal?
After listening to all these speakers, what have you learned so far, if I may ask?
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thank you stagea, I have heard the PSB and Mordant Short. I will check the RTi and maybe the Tannoy too. thank you. among these which do you find impressive?
Hmmh, that depends largely on the partnering equipment. Some gear sound better when matched with other items of certain characteristics.
It's hard to go wrong with any of these speakers and the ones that you've mentioned. It's all about the sound that you're after. The resulting sound depends on the speakers you use, the partnering gear (amp/source/ancillaries), and your room acoustics and layout.
As for your question about which one impressed me, it's relatively harder to get impressed after hearing high end stuff (thanks to store demos and the hifi show). With mild-sounding partnering gear (like Arcam or NAD), I prefer the Focal 806V. It may not have the punch of the 685, but it also seems better organized.
For the budget options:
The RTi is also a lively listen, with all the details in place. Similar sound to the B&W imho, but a tad less refined. Also check out the Monitor Audio BR2, as I find them vivid-sounding with the right matching gear.
The Tannoy F1 is a lot cheaper than the Focal or the B&W. It however provides a warm and laid-back sound (I love them for vocals and strings). It may also partner well with bright sounding gear. If you prefer the Focal and B&W over the rest, then you might like their forwardness and liveliness. Tannoys are quite the opposite.
I had the Image B25 in the past, and I think it's a very balanced sound. It's not particularly excellent in anything, but it doesn't do anything wrong. In my opinion it's a very safe purchase (together with the Aviano 2). For varied material and a sub-20k budget, they're on the top of my list.
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After listening to all these speakers, what have you learned so far, if I may ask?
that different speakers have a character of their own and that at the end of the day it all boils down to preference. There are laid back sounds, some produce very vivid sound others are just safe and fine, some produced too much tweeter sound and there was one that sounded terrible( as in transistor radio sounding ???).
I brought a CD for sampling particularly a track of Stanley Clarke's "Together Again" for the low side, a track of Earl Klugh"s "Like a Lover" for the details, a track of Kevyn Lettau's "Sunlight" for the female voice and Earth Wind & Fire's "Miracles" for the male voice. And being a newbie, I was surprised that there were some parts of the songs that was there that I never heard before and some got lost too is several occasions. I was a case of "WOW" :o or "that is just so normal" :). Auditioning speakers was somewhat eye opening experience for me, I knew that there were differences in sound but just not that diverse. I know it is just been at the tip of the iceberg and that there will be lots more to learn, but hey, it is such a nice ride so far.
Among them, I really like the Focals particularly the Chorus 806V like I mentioned earlier, the sound stands out in my ears. I love the tightness of the lows and the crispness of the mids without going overboard, the details is just so complete. there is another I like a lot but when I was not treated well in that particular store, I lost some interest(ganyan pag tumatanda yata talaga eh, nagiging tampuhin ;D) but is still in my list though.
Hmmh, that depends largely on the partnering equipment. Some gear sound better when matched with other items of certain characteristics.
Certainly, I agree with this. when the day comes and I decide on a purchase, I intend to bring the receiver or pre-amp that I will use.
Choosing a speaker for my needs is a long process though I want to have one home soon, I want to make sure that I would end with something that I would have for a very long time. These things are expensive and even more expensive if I end up selling them for an upgrade. I am a powertool nut and a woodworker(by hobby) and we have a saying when buying stuff, "cry once and be happy for a long time" pertaining to getting the best one can afford...
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Hi masters,
I would like to ask your opinion regarding these speakers...
I recently purchased a Wharfe 10.1 and I'm really satisfied with it.
Good bass, evenly dispersed highs (thanks to the metal grill), decent mids...
I'm planning to go all the way on wharfe 10 series but I now have a very good deal of a Yamaha NS-777.
I had a chance to do a side-by-side audition of Wharfe 9.6 and Yamaha NS-555 like 3 years ago.
My findings is that the NS-555 does a very good job of producing the sounds of guitar and piano compared to the 9.6.
I had not compared the wharfies 10 series agains yamaha.
Now, my question is that, do you think the Wharfies 10 series is better overall against yamaha speakers?
Your opinions are highly appreciated.
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Hi masters,
I would like to ask your opinion regarding these speakers...
I recently purchased a Wharfe 10.1 and I'm really satisfied with it.
Good bass, evenly dispersed highs (thanks to the metal grill), decent mids...
I'm planning to go all the way on wharfe 10 series but I now have a very good deal of a Yamaha NS-777.
I had a chance to do a side-by-side audition of Wharfe 9.6 and Yamaha NS-555 like 3 years ago.
My findings is that the NS-555 does a very good job of producing the sounds of guitar and piano compared to the 9.6.
I had not compared the wharfies 10 series agains yamaha.
Now, my question is that, do you think the Wharfies 10 series is better overall against yamaha speakers?
Your opinions are highly appreciated.
i had both brands of speakers before and both are good sounding speakers ;)
i think it would be best to get speakers of the same brand/model series for timbre matching and if you're really keen on getting the yamaha due to the good deal, try to audition it first or do an A/B test which is even better.
it will always be your ears and wallet who will decide but always take into consideration if you'll be happy and satisfied in keeping speakers for a long time. :)
goodluck!
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nalilito na ako .... help!!!!
i want b&w 685 pero i wanna check its direct competitor's equivalent like sa paradigm, polk, psb, MA, Mission etc .....
can anyone help list down? :) kung may price idea mas better :)
going 2.1 channel setup with my yamaha RXV430 and polk DSW400 sub
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i want b&w 685 pero i wanna check its direct competitor's equivalent like sa paradigm, polk, psb, MA, Mission etc .....
can anyone help list down? :) kung may price idea mas better :)
I can think of the following alternatives:
1. MA Silver RX1
2. MS Mezzo 1 / Mezzo 2
3. PSB Image B6 / Image B25
4. Paradigm Mini Monitor / Titan Monitor
5. Polk RTi A3
6. KEF iQ30
7. AE AE22
8. Focal Chorus 706V
A step up would be the following:
1. PSB Imagine B
2. Polk LSi7
3. MA Silver RX2
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Thanks .......
i think i'll try again Polk RTI A3 refamiliarize myself with it....
then check ko MA RX1, Paradigm Mini and Atom Monitor .......
Per my last test sa Sights and Sound the closest to B&W I tried was Paradigm Atom monitor but i find the tweeter to be wee bit on the harsh side. But its so warm and lively.
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on the harsh side. But its so warm and lively.
it seems this is the first time harsh, warm and lively is used together to describe a speaker. ???
have to familiarize myself more with these audio terms. :)
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If by any chance you can stretch your budget to accomodate one of these, go ahead and give them a listen:
1. MA Silver RX2
2. Polk LSi7
3. PSB Imagine B
I think they're truly worth the extra. They sound great when hooked up to a matching amp and front-end.
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I'm looking to get a nice set of speakers for my 5.1 setup.
Right now I'm using Klipsch promedia 5.1 speakers (not the sub) and a Polk PSW powered by Denon1610.
Basically I want 2 fronts, a center, and 2 rear speakers.
I'm VERY impressed with Klipsch so dream ko talaga is to get a complete set. Kaso sobrang mahal sa atin ng Klipsch.
Next would be Paradigms. Meron na akong Paradigm Atoms that I can use for fronts. Magkano kaya center and rears? and saan meron?
Next would be Infinity Primus
Next would be Polk Audio na siguro. I know there is the Tsi series that's available here sa atin. Price is ok.. but I am also able to get the Monitor series from the states. Imagine Monitor 40's for $130 a pair? I can get 2 pairs and then a center channel shipped via balikbayan box to Manila for just about 20k!! Not bad diba? If I get the Tsi series locally for sure mas mahal pa.
What do you guys think?
thanks for any input.
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Bad trip so many choice and I hardly had the time to audition .....
I want tweeter to be as neutral as possible ..... like b&W 685 ......
Polk RTI-A3 would be nice Pero my heart truly belongs to B&W 685 :)
Follow your heart kahit bitin ang budget ;D
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Follow your heart kahit bitin ang budget ;D
I agree with this. :) Wait till you have enough funds, then buy what you really want. In my experience, buying the next best thing only leads to more expenses, because I eventually end up buying what I really wanted anyway.
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I agree with this. :) Wait till you have enough funds, then buy what you really want. In my experience, buying the next best thing only leads to more expenses, because I eventually end up buying what I really wanted anyway.
Oh my, if this is true... sana dumating na ang more expenses na yan. ;D I can't afford what I really want. :D :D :D
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Pero minsan, even if you only got the 2nd best, you'll come to love it well enough pag parati mo siya naririnig. ;D
Next thing you know, you'd prefer listening to it than your original best. ;D
Pero this doesn't happen very often lalo na for those who are looking for the audio nirvana. ;D
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I'm looking to get a nice set of speakers for my 5.1 setup.
Right now I'm using Klipsch promedia 5.1 speakers (not the sub) and a Polk PSW powered by Denon1610.
Basically I want 2 fronts, a center, and 2 rear speakers.
I'm VERY impressed with Klipsch so dream ko talaga is to get a complete set. Kaso sobrang mahal sa atin ng Klipsch.
Next would be Paradigms. Meron na akong Paradigm Atoms that I can use for fronts. Magkano kaya center and rears? and saan meron?
Next would be Infinity Primus
Next would be Polk Audio na siguro. I know there is the Tsi series that's available here sa atin. Price is ok.. but I am also able to get the Monitor series from the states. Imagine Monitor 40's for $130 a pair? I can get 2 pairs and then a center channel shipped via balikbayan box to Manila for just about 20k!! Not bad diba? If I get the Tsi series locally for sure mas mahal pa.
What do you guys think?
thanks for any input.
Is this arranged in priority? What series of Klipsch are you thinking about? If its the synergy series, theres already a B3 being sold in the marketplace for 9k. There are also a second hand set of synergies being sold at audioworld which should be quite affordable. As far as I know, the surround s1 costs less than 10k as well. Klilpsch has been said to sound very good especially for HT.
Paradigms, if it is your second choice, would be more expensive than Klipsch. The center for theParadigm monitor series already costs around 15k.
The Primus line is also cheaper than Paradigm and sounds very good. Much better than the TSi's if you ask me, even for HT.
As for the Polks, the Monitor series is actually lower than the TSi's. Some say that they are the predecessor of the TSi. With that being said, TSi 100 plus CS10 would cost you just around 15-17k more or less, still cheaper than the monitor set you were mentioning.
With all these being said, get the set you would be trully happy with. There's a saying I've heard quite a couple of times when researching for a/v stuff. The poor man pays twice. If you can afford it, kahit medyo masmasakit sa bulsa, just take the plunge for something you like. On the flipside, it is also fun to upgrade. Kahit papaano kasi, there will always be new stuff and as long as you are still interested in the hobby, you will always seek something better.
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thanks so much for your input. yes it's arranged by priority. Priority because Klipsch is cheaper :)
Yes I would love to get paradigms but they may be too expensive for me. I like your quote! Something to live by indeed.
I saw the B3's sa market kaso its 9k. It's only $140 sa US right now. Vanns yata yung site. Mas mura pa ipabalikbayan box kesa dito kumuha ng segunda mano. What's stopping me is the matching klipsch center is twice the price of the bookshelves.
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Call audioworld. I think I saw a second hand synergy center.
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hello guys,
i have these marantz component from my father and it is really an antique. i guess it is from 1970's.
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any suggestion kung ano magandang speaker? i am thinking of yamaha ns8390 or klipsch? which is better pagdating sa movies and music?
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Was wondering if anybody has auditioned both the Mordaunt Short Aviano and the Monitor Audio RX series. Based on price, it would have to be the standmounters RX1 or maybe even RX2 against the floorstanding Aviano 6. The Aviano seems to have very good reviews and seems like a good value.
Any thoughts?
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hi bros!
could anyone post some comparisons or general characteristics of these speakers:
-B&W CM1
-B&W 685
-MA GS10
-MA RX2
tnx! ;D
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Is this arranged in priority? What series of Klipsch are you thinking about? If its the synergy series, theres already a B3 being sold in the marketplace for 9k. There are also a second hand set of synergies being sold at audioworld which should be quite affordable. As far as I know, the surround s1 costs less than 10k as well. Klilpsch has been said to sound very good especially for HT.
Paradigms, if it is your second choice, would be more expensive than Klipsch. The center for theParadigm monitor series already costs around 15k.
The Primus line is also cheaper than Paradigm and sounds very good. Much better than the TSi's if you ask me, even for HT.
As for the Polks, the Monitor series is actually lower than the TSi's. Some say that they are the predecessor of the TSi. With that being said, TSi 100 plus CS10 would cost you just around 15-17k more or less, still cheaper than the monitor set you were mentioning.
With all these being said, get the set you would be trully happy with. There's a saying I've heard quite a couple of times when researching for a/v stuff. The poor man pays twice. If you can afford it, kahit medyo masmasakit sa bulsa, just take the plunge for something you like. On the flipside, it is also fun to upgrade. Kahit papaano kasi, there will always be new stuff and as long as you are still interested in the hobby, you will always seek something better.
sir FYI lang.
based on your suggestion and your words of wisdom (The poor man pays twice) I ended up getting the Paradigm Titans, Paradigm CC190, and Paradigm Atoms.
hehehehe.
i couldn't be happier.
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I'm looking to get a nice set of speakers for my 5.1 setup.
Right now I'm using Klipsch promedia 5.1 speakers (not the sub) and a Polk PSW powered by Denon1610.
Basically I want 2 fronts, a center, and 2 rear speakers.
I'm VERY impressed with Klipsch so dream ko talaga is to get a complete set. Kaso sobrang mahal sa atin ng Klipsch.
Next would be Paradigms. Meron na akong Paradigm Atoms that I can use for fronts. Magkano kaya center and rears? and saan meron?
Next would be Infinity Primus
Next would be Polk Audio na siguro. I know there is the Tsi series that's available here sa atin. Price is ok.. but I am also able to get the Monitor series from the states. Imagine Monitor 40's for $130 a pair? I can get 2 pairs and then a center channel shipped via balikbayan box to Manila for just about 20k!! Not bad diba? If I get the Tsi series locally for sure mas mahal pa.
What do you guys think?
thanks for any input.
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The Polk Audio monitor series have been phased out and replaced by the TSi series. Some stores in america might have old stock, so they droped the price of monitor series to get rid of the stock. If you want a great 5.1 system and are on a budget, I would suggest the following set up from Polk Audio:
- TSi300 - 1 pair floorstanding
- CS10 - 1 piece center channel
- TSi100 - 1 pair bookshelf
- PSW110 - 10 inch sub
This is an excellent entry level set up that will not cost so much.
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I got a chance to audition B&W 683 and Polk Audio Rtia7 with AVshop last Saturday. Supposedly, I’m aiming for the RTia9 to compare with the 683 but it’s not readily available. B&W 683 had a very detailed clean and smooth sound. It offers magnificent sound and outstanding performance. I can listen at relatively high volume and my ears still wants more. It seems it never get tired of what they are hearing. Same observation when we played movie. The sound coming from this 683 is not fatiguing. It sounds more relaxing and not irritating. It can give you more when you pair it with powerful amplifier/ receiver. For me, if you have good amp to drive this impressive speaker, 683 can be all you’ll ever need in a lifetime. ;) ;) ;)
Polk audio Rti A7 is absolutely great speaker. Very good imaging, crystal clear highs and midrange. It is more easy to drive even with minimal power receiver. Likewise, it has aggressive bass response even in a low volume compared with B&W 683. Bass response in one my one little disappointment with 683 but it can be reinforced by a subwoofer( just for me). I find Polk audio RTi A7 an excellent choice of speaker for a home theater setup. It seems that it captured every single sound detail in movies. Wow how much more with the RtiA9! :o :o :o What I liked with polk audio RTI is the cabinet design. It has a very nice curved shape and very firm wood cabinet.It will look gorgeous to any living room or HT room. ;)
You can never go wrong with B&W and Polk Audio speakers. If budget permits, I want to have both. ;D ;D(anyway free naman ang mangarap)
By the way, thanks to James of AVshop. He’s very accommodating, energetic to plug different speakers to suit your taste and to satisfy your ears. :) :)
Thanks Mark (avshop) and hope to close our deal with B&W speakers next week. ;)
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I got a chance to audition B&W 683 and Polk Audio Rtia7 with AVshop last Saturday. Supposedly, I’m aiming for the RTia9 to compare with the 683 but it’s not readily available. B&W 683 had a very detailed clean and smooth sound. It offers magnificent sound and outstanding performance. I can listen at relatively high volume and my ears still wants more. It seems it never get tired of what they are hearing. Same observation when we played movie. The sound coming from this 683 is not fatiguing. It sounds more relaxing and not irritating. It can give you more when you pair it with powerful amplifier/ receiver. For me, if you have good amp to drive this impressive speaker, 683 can be all you’ll ever need in a lifetime. ;) ;) ;)
Polk audio Rti A7 is absolutely great speaker. Very good imaging, crystal clear highs and midrange. It is more easy to drive even with minimal power receiver. Likewise, it has aggressive bass response even in a low volume compared with B&W 683. Bass response in one my one little disappointment with 683 but it can be reinforced by a subwoofer( just for me). I find Polk audio RTi A7 an excellent choice of speaker for a home theater setup. It seems that it captured every single sound detail in movies. Wow how much more with the RtiA9! :o :o :o What I liked with polk audio RTI is the cabinet design. It has a very nice curved shape and very firm wood cabinet.It will look gorgeous to any living room or HT room. ;)
You can never go wrong with B&W and Polk Audio speakers. If budget permits, I want to have both. ;D ;D(anyway free naman ang mangarap)
By the way, thanks to James of AVshop. He’s very accommodating, energetic to plug different speakers to suit your taste and to satisfy your ears. :) :)
Thanks Mark (avshop) and hope to close our deal with B&W speakers next week. ;)
ayos brader bullet_red kayang kaya idrive ng AVR mo yan. inaabangan n kita sa gallery brader ;D
congrats in advance sa new gear ;)
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binasa ko bro ang review bakit parang walang pagpipilian cant go wrong with both
detailed and smooth ang 683 then crystal clear ang highs and midrange ng rtia7 ...pano yan? lols ::)
you said ok ang rtia7 sa ht what about 683 with svs sub alin ang mas ok?
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ayos brader bullet_red kayang kaya idrive ng AVR mo yan. inaabangan n kita sa gallery brader ;D
congrats in advance sa new gear ;)
malapit na sir :D
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binasa ko bro ang review bakit parang walang pagpipilian cant go wrong with both
detailed and smooth ang 683 then crystal clear ang highs and midrange ng rtia7 ...pano yan? lols ::)
you said ok ang rtia7 sa ht what about 683 with svs sub alin ang mas ok?
just for me...
B&W 683 for music
Polk Audio Rtia7 for movie
but still your ears will decide ;)
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binasa ko bro ang review bakit parang walang pagpipilian cant go wrong with both
detailed and smooth ang 683 then crystal clear ang highs and midrange ng rtia7 ...pano yan? lols ::)
you said ok ang rtia7 sa ht what about 683 with svs sub alin ang mas ok?
id go for rti a7 bro.. and with the svs sub.. bangis!!!
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id go for rti a7 bro.. and with the svs sub.. bangis!!!
A good match of the Polk Audio RTi A7 is the Polk Audio DSW Pro 600 or even better the DSW Micro pro 4000.
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Sirs i think this is the right thread to ask this question, if not kindly move. :)
i just want to ask your reviews regarding the Hercules XPS 2.1 (price approx. Php 6.5k) ok po ba ito?ano po katapat neto sa Logitech speakers?
TIA
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guys help naman. I just bought a 2nd hand Aegis Evo 1 speakers for 8K. i never thought about it actually. Myfriend just told me to buy it kasi mura daw. And he knows am planning an audio setup soon. Siguro spur of the moment I bought it. Okay naman when it was auditioned to me paired with an HK. Now i am looking for an amplifier to pair with it. Any suggestions? May nagsabi okay daw yung DARED I-30. am really new to this any suggestions and/or comments would be highly appreciated.
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Sir I would suggest you buy an amp which has power rating at least 2x that of your speakers whether tube or Solid State. This way the speakers can be driven properly.
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Sir I would suggest you buy an amp which has power rating at least 2x that of your speakers whether tube or Solid State. This way the speakers can be driven properly.
sir hindi ba risky yan?
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sir hindi ba risky yan?
Risky, if you drive them in full volume ;D But never on your listening level.
It's more dangerous to drive a speaker twice the power rating of your Amp. Even on moderate level.
Try this link for more info:
http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/34579/109138.html (http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/34579/109138.html)
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thanks for the link..
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gud am po. ano po masasabi nio about audioengine a2? saka tingin nio po, pano makakabitan ng ibang subs to? mahal po kasi masyado nung audioengine AS8 eh. thanks po.
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Hello Sir's
I have been mulling for 2 months now on what I should get. Trying to set up my first 5.1 HT system. A few years ago I acquired Infinity Kappa Video Series 2 center channel speaker with the EMIT tweeter along with some Infinity Quadrapole surround speakers. Here's the dilemma, what speakers can I match with these? My wish would be Infinity Ren 80's or 90's but these are really rare and probably out of my budget. I need bookshelf speakers as I live in a condo and space is premium. I will probably use a HK or the Denon (1911) AVR. I also obtained a Omni S8 powered sub from SnS last month because of the great offer. So please give me your suggestions. TIA ;D
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na audition ko na Tsi300, 10.5 and wf 9.5 using onkyo 508 and denon 1911,
tsi 300 + onkyo 508 = a little bright
wf 9.5 + onkyo 508 = a little warm
wf 10.5 + denon 1911 = too warm
tsi 300 + denon 1911 = balance
tama ba observation ko? ang onkyo ba bright avr and Denon neutral? :D
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na audition ko na Tsi300, 10.5 and wf 9.5 using onkyo 508 and denon 1911,
tsi 300 + onkyo 508 = a little bright
wf 9.5 + onkyo 508 = a little warm
wf 10.5 + denon 1911 = too warm
tsi 300 + denon 1911 = balance
tama ba observation ko? ang onkyo ba bright avr and Denon neutral? :D
ang pagkakaalam ko warm ang onkyo... ;)
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na audition ko na Tsi300, 10.5 and wf 9.5 using onkyo 508 and denon 1911,
tsi 300 + onkyo 508 = a little bright
wf 9.5 + onkyo 508 = a little warm
wf 10.5 + denon 1911 = too warm
tsi 300 + denon 1911 = balance
tama ba observation ko? ang onkyo ba bright avr and Denon neutral? :D
it wouldn't be wise to generalize that a certain brand is warm or bright based on a short stint with just one model.
ang pagkakaalam ko warm ang onkyo... ;)
sabi pa nga ng iba hot! ;D
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How about Denon 1911 & B&W 685? :)
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OT: Sa SNS ba to? I think sabay tayo nag audition :)
na audition ko na Tsi300, 10.5 and wf 9.5 using onkyo 508 and denon 1911,
tsi 300 + onkyo 508 = a little bright
wf 9.5 + onkyo 508 = a little warm
wf 10.5 + denon 1911 = too warm
tsi 300 + denon 1911 = balance
tama ba observation ko? ang onkyo ba bright avr and Denon neutral? :D
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sir,
i owned B6 for just 4 months and slightly used which i bought from spectra, aalis po uli ako ng bansa back to work and planning to upgrade later, binebente ko siya for just 15k, if u like to see it or to audition it again, u can call or text me 0999-779-3527, in fact binili ko siya together with DENON AVR-1509, and klipcsh S350.
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what's a b6?
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mali pala observation ko, :P
Unang nabili ko denon 1911 + tsi300, nagtataka ako bakit mas maganda pa tunog ng altec lansing PC speaker . sinubukan ko na lahat ng settings pero hindi ko talaga gusto tunog, halos wala ako marinig na mids, puro kalansing lang, wala ako marinig na deep bass from my sub and hindi ako kinikilabutan :P kaya pinapalitan ko na lang ng onkyo 608.. napa WOW ako sa laki ng difference nila, mas buhay, mas ok seperation, mas madami ako naririnig na frequency na hindi ko narinig sa denon. :)
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mali setting mo siguro sir.
or defective yung nabili mo
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mali setting mo siguro sir.
or defective yung nabili mo
oo nga. decent receivers don't differ that much in sound quality unless played at very high levels.
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How about Denon 1911 & B&W 685? :)
a very good choice. especially with the 685s. :)
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oo nga. decent receivers don't differ that much in sound quality unless played at very high levels.
I think that they do differ. I first bought a Denon 1611 even though during the audition it sounded warm and subdued compared to the bright and lively Onkyo 508 (both receivers were played with Paradigm floorstanding speakers). When I got home, my old but trusty JBL Studio Series S26 bookshelf speakers sounded too subdued with not much bass and also sounded underpowered at that. I had to add both treble and bass for my speakers to sound "decent". So I called up the owner of the shop where I bought the Denon and asked if I could exchange it for a Denon 1911 or Onkyo 608. After much research I chose the Onkyo 608 due to it being more powerful than the 1911 so now my JBL's are lively with good bass once again even if the tone controls are set to flat.
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I had to add both treble and bass for my speakers to sound "decent".
did you also try doing audessy calibration when you had the denon?
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did you also try doing audessy calibration when you had the denon?
Yes I did.
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I got a chance to auditioned B&W 684 and Polk's RTi A7.
Thanks to Vic of SnS.
I came from B&W family(600s3, 602s3) so sound coming from the 684 is familiar.
I would say a notch or two up from 602s3.
I just noticed that 602s3 has a better bass.
There must be something wrong with my ears.
The RTi A7 is detailed, much detailed than B&W.
2 tracks that I listened to shows a little bit of distortion under A7.
When I listened to the same tracks on the 684, that distortion was not present.
What's surprising was, totally wala ang sound that distorts, parang naputol ang tunog, hindi sya nag extend.
It just shows how detailed the RTi A7 is compared to 684.
It will let you hear things that you can't hear from the 684.
The RTi A7 comes straight out of the box so I would need to audition it again after a few weeks, hopefully break in na sya that time.
Since I was there and still have time on my hand I also auditioned the Paradigm Monitor 9 v6.
Same price range as the RTiA7 and B&W 684.
This really surprised me a lot.
Ito yata ang iuuwi ko at the end of the day.
Very detailed and easy to drive.
Bass is good, but it also exhibit the same character as the 684, ung parang naputol ang sound on part na na-distort ang sound sa A7.
Not sure if this is good.
If I did not hear that there is this part of the music in that tracks wala sana problem.
Much louder than A7 and 864 at same volume level.
This is the sound character I am looking for.
Downside, I don't like how it looks.
Though sound is what really matters, I also value the looks.
Decision, decision.
I am torn on which speaker to buy.
Need to audition it again so I won't get wrong.
If you are in my situation which one would you choose?
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I got a chance to auditioned B&W 684 and Polk's RTi A7.
Thanks to Vic of SnS.
I came from B&W family(600s3, 602s3) so sound coming from the 684 is familiar.
I would say a notch or two up from 602s3.
I just noticed that 602s3 has a better bass.
There must be something wrong with my ears.
The RTi A7 is detailed, much detailed than B&W.
2 tracks that I listened to shows a little bit of distortion under A7.
When I listened to the same tracks on the 684, that distortion was not present.
What's surprising was, totally wala ang sound that distorts, parang naputol ang tunog, hindi sya nag extend.
It just shows how detailed the RTi A7 is compared to 684.
It will let you hear things that you can't hear from the 684.
The RTi A7 comes straight out of the box so I would need to audition it again after a few weeks, hopefully break in na sya that time.
Since I was there and still have time on my hand I also auditioned the Paradigm Monitor 9 v6.
Same price range as the RTiA7 and B&W 684.
This really surprised me a lot.
Ito yata ang iuuwi ko at the end of the day.
Very detailed and easy to drive.
Bass is good, but it also exhibit the same character as the 684, ung parang naputol ang sound on part na na-distort ang sound sa A7.
Not sure if this is good.
If I did not hear that there is this part of the music in that tracks wala sana problem.
Much louder than A7 and 864 at same volume level.
This is the sound character I am looking for.
Downside, I don't like how it looks.
Though sound is what really matters, I also value the looks.
Decision, decision.
I am torn on which speaker to buy.
Need to audition it again so I won't get wrong.
If you are in my situation which one would you choose?
come check out the polk audio lsi 9. it's only a bookshelf speaker but you'll be surprised with it. i like it better than the b&w 683. :)
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I got a chance to auditioned B&W 684 and Polk's RTi A7.
Thanks to Vic of SnS.
I came from B&W family(600s3, 602s3) so sound coming from the 684 is familiar.
I would say a notch or two up from 602s3.
I just noticed that 602s3 has a better bass.
There must be something wrong with my ears.
The RTi A7 is detailed, much detailed than B&W.
2 tracks that I listened to shows a little bit of distortion under A7.
When I listened to the same tracks on the 684, that distortion was not present.
What's surprising was, totally wala ang sound that distorts, parang naputol ang tunog, hindi sya nag extend.
It just shows how detailed the RTi A7 is compared to 684.
It will let you hear things that you can't hear from the 684.
The RTi A7 comes straight out of the box so I would need to audition it again after a few weeks, hopefully break in na sya that time.
Since I was there and still have time on my hand I also auditioned the Paradigm Monitor 9 v6.
Same price range as the RTiA7 and B&W 684.
This really surprised me a lot.
Ito yata ang iuuwi ko at the end of the day.
Very detailed and easy to drive.
Bass is good, but it also exhibit the same character as the 684, ung parang naputol ang sound on part na na-distort ang sound sa A7.
Not sure if this is good.
If I did not hear that there is this part of the music in that tracks wala sana problem.
Much louder than A7 and 864 at same volume level.
This is the sound character I am looking for.
Downside, I don't like how it looks.
Though sound is what really matters, I also value the looks.
Decision, decision.
I am torn on which speaker to buy.
Need to audition it again so I won't get wrong.
If you are in my situation which one would you choose?
GO FOR THE POLK AUDIO RTi A7.
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a very good choice. especially with the 685s. :)
more especial with rotel :)
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Mga gurus, noob question lang po...
How will you define if the speaker is bright or warm?
Same question with receivers...
Are there other characteristics?
For the benefit who are starting to set-up for HT..
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I hope expert ears are still here. I currently have Klipsch RB35 front speakers. Mostly for music. Planning to get another set of bookshelf type. I need some punch down low and crisp highs. Narrowed down the choice bet Paradigm titan and B&W 685. Anyone can give any advise? Sadly, it's hard to find 3-way on bookshelf nowadays.
I like listening to strings and vocals with some punch bass like cross over jazz.
For use with old Marantz 550DC(i love DC amps) & PM-80 (class A/AB) and Marantz CD63 (I avoid using subs for music)
For movie mode, I have a JBL SUB12, Philips DVD, Denon AVR2720 and Klispch RC-52
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I hope expert ears are still here. I currently have Klipsch RB35 front speakers. Mostly for music. Planning to get another set of bookshelf type. I need some punch down low and crisp highs. Narrowed down the choice bet Paradigm titan and B&W 685. Anyone can give any advise? Sadly, it's hard to find 3-way on bookshelf nowadays.
I like listening to strings and vocals with some punch bass like cross over jazz.
For use with old Marantz 550DC(i love DC amps) & PM-80 (class A/AB) and Marantz CD63 (I avoid using subs for music)
For movie mode, I have a JBL SUB12, Philips DVD, Denon AVR2720 and Klispch RC-52
Go and audition the Polk Audio RTi A3 bookshelf speakers before you make a decision.
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Thanks for the suggestion. Will the RTi A3 give a better punch compared to the PAradigm Titan?
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Thanks for the suggestion. Will the RTi A3 give a better punch compared to the PAradigm Titan?
Come by the shop and audition the Rti a3. They're very good. I can give you a great deal on them as well. :)
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Ano ba ang successor ng Monitor 5? LSi/RTi/TSi?
http://www.polkaudio.com/homeaudio/specs/recent/monitor5/
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guys ano mas okay polk or klipsch bookshelves?
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guys ano mas okay polk or klipsch bookshelves?
You'll have to listen to both and see which one suits your taste. Most Klipsch speakers have very high sensitivity (higher than 90db) so they don't need a lot of power to play loud.
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guys ano mas okay polk or klipsch bookshelves?
parehong maganda yan, depende na lang sa matching mo ng amp
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I have RB 35 mains and RC 52 centers. Yung mains ko hindi sya match sa Denon receiver, pero ganda the labas nya sa integrated Amp na malakas magbigay ng bass (currently using a Marantz DC amp for music). Observation ko lang at high volumes dapat magbawas ka ng treble sa amp para hindi masira yung ear drums mo. hehehe...
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Mga Masters and Gurus Wink
Need your expert advice.
I'll be getting an Onkyo TXSR508 AVR and I can't decide whether to get a complete 5.1 speaker system (Klipsch HD300) or purchase the Wharfedale diamond 10.1; 10cs and 10sr and buy the subs later if budget permits. I'm also considering Polk TSi100 and CS10 then buy the surrounds and subs later. Or if you have suggestions that would suite my budget and purpose, I'd be very appreciative to know them. Main use is 90% movies and 10% music. BTW my room size is 15sqm.
My budget is around 15-18K for the speakers.
Thanks so much.
More power PDVD! Smiley
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Mga Masters and Gurus Wink
Need your expert advice.
I'll be getting an Onkyo TXSR508 AVR and I can't decide whether to get a complete 5.1 speaker system (Klipsch HD300) or purchase the Wharfedale diamond 10.1; 10cs and 10sr and buy the subs later if budget permits. I'm also considering Polk TSi100 and CS10 then buy the surrounds and subs later. Or if you have suggestions that would suite my budget and purpose, I'd be very appreciative to know them. Main use is 90% movies and 10% music. BTW my room size is 15sqm.
My budget is around 15-18K for the speakers.
Thanks so much.
More power PDVD! Smiley
i'd pass on the klipsch
Klipsch HD300
(http://www.bestdeal2time.com/images_products/Klipsch_HD_300_Compact.jpg)
18k is your allotted money for speaks? try to haggle superman's wharfe 9.5 and cm. with the change, you can buy the dfs. a good sub will go for at least 15k brand new so 2nd hand is your best investment in this regard.
or contact paudmann. he's withdrawn the sale but you might still get lucky.
seen your post in anthony's thread, you can go that route too. better in fact, because anthony is great with working w/in people's budget. with 18k, you might get a complete set of 5.1 aaudio. although the titus is a bit on the expensive side imo (maybe because of better drivers), so inquire what he can offer you.
just remember, the center speaker is the most important part of the 5.1 and i recommend that you get a big one with 6.5" drivers if possible or at least 5". good luck.
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Thanks sir Hexagram, I'll take note of the center speakers. I'll also wait for sir Anthony's feedback.
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Mga Masters and Gurus Wink
Need your expert advice.
I'll be getting an Onkyo TXSR508 AVR and I can't decide whether to get a complete 5.1 speaker system (Klipsch HD300) or purchase the Wharfedale diamond 10.1; 10cs and 10sr and buy the subs later if budget permits. I'm also considering Polk TSi100 and CS10 then buy the surrounds and subs later. Or if you have suggestions that would suite my budget and purpose, I'd be very appreciative to know them. Main use is 90% movies and 10% music. BTW my room size is 15sqm.
My budget is around 15-18K for the speakers.
Thanks so much.
More power PDVD! Smiley
im in the same predicament as you. you see im also looking at an entry level home theater speaker for HT PC fro around twice your budget.
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Guys ano bang magkatapat na speaker line up ng Polk and B&W?
TSi series - B&W 600 series
RTi series - B&W CM series
LSi series - 800 series
Tama ba? :D
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Guys ano bang magkatapat na speaker line up ng Polk and B&W?
TSi series - B&W 600 series
RTi series - B&W CM series
LSi series - 800 series
Tama ba? :D
More on ganito ata:
TSi - B&W 300 (phased-out)
RTi - B&W 600
LSi - B&W CM and B&W 700 (phased-out)
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B&W Speakers
Try Dyne audio. The B&W 600 / 300 mid level series used to lead the competition. Now, its just competitive. Actually, the older B&W speakers sound better.
Klipsch:
The ones with horns are ok - quite detailed. Only if you can stand the horn shout. But easy to drive specially the bookshelves. Hard to get speakers that can be driven well by t-amps.
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B&W Speakers
Try Dyne audio. The B&W 600 / 300 mid level series used to lead the competition. Now, its just competitive. Actually, the older B&W speakers sound better.
Klipsch:
The ones with horns are ok - quite detailed. Only if you can stand the horn shout. But easy to drive specially the bookshelves. Hard to get speakers that can be driven well by t-amps.
Have you listened to the Klipsch Reference II line lately? They are much more "polite" than previous models. In fact when I brought a friend to listen to the Klipsch RB 61 II at Spectra he was surprised that they sounded much better than his preconceived notion of what the Klipsch horn would sound like.
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I really don' think that Polk Audio and B&W are in the same league, IMHO.
Try to get a better amp, usually the ones from the ridiculously priced lineups, and you will see (hear) that there is a night and day difference.
I have owned Polk Audio before and although a lot of people prefer a warmer high, as a result of a plastic tweeter, I don't like it at all.
Well, if you prefer a less bright sounding speaker, Polk Audio is the way to go.
But trust me, after a while of laid-back, non-fatiguing sound, you will actually find the Polk audio sound boring , lacking, and flat.
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I really don' think that Polk Audio and B&W are in the same league, IMHO.
Try to get a better amp, usually the ones from the ridiculously priced lineups, and you will see (hear) that there is a night and day difference.
I have owned Polk Audio before and although a lot of people prefer a warmer high, as a result of a plastic tweeter, I don't like it at all.
Well, if you prefer a less bright sounding speaker, Polk Audio is the way to go.
But trust me, after a while of laid-back, non-fatiguing sound, you will actually find the Polk audio sound boring , lacking, and flat.
What Polk Audio series are you referring to? Because I own RTi A3's and I do not experience such... :)
Have you tried listening to the LSI series?
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What Polk Audio series are you referring to? Because I own RTi A3's and I do not experience such... :)
Have you tried listening to the LSI series?
Mee too. I own an A3, A1 and A6.. and they sounded really really great.. In fact i cant even stop my self from listening on how polk sing... From movies to music they are awesome.... ;)
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guys ano mas okay polk or klipsch bookshelves?
Go for polk audio
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What Polk Audio series are you referring to? Because I own RTi A3's and I do not experience such... :)
Have you tried listening to the LSI series?
I've had RTi A5. Although I must admit that the DSW Pro 500 was truly awesome.
I also tried bi-amping the A5's but the high frequency seemed drowned by the bass. I had a hard time tweaking them to produce a good treble but was all in vain. Finally, I decided to biwire them which gave a more decent sound although not as close to what I would have wanted.
The Rti A5 were ridiculously heavy.
I have not heard the LSi series but I heard they are the flagship of Polk.
The RTi's I had were great at movies but not at music.
I now have Monitor Audio RX6 and I am truly satisfied. This is the kind of sound I have been looking for.
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It is a matter of taste really. First we all have different hearing and second we all have our own particular preference of what we can hear. Its a pointless argument it seems.
I myself spent many hours at AVSHOP comparing various brands, models and classes of speakers. The guys there were even nice enough to let me try speakers I could not possibly afford. I don't discount that costs issues clouded my judgement but for me but at the end of it all I decided I'd go with the Polk RTi series.
Some Klipsch floorstander did get my attention.
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I also auditioned several brands of speakers at AVShop and the Polk Audio RTi and TSi series sounded great. The staff of AVShop advised me when buying high end speakers, you need to be selective of the type of receiver that can drive the speaker so it could bring out the details well.
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I also auditioned several brands of speakers at AVShop and the Polk Audio RTi and TSi series sounded great. The staff of AVShop advised me when buying high end speakers, you need to be selective of the type of receiver that can drive the speaker so it could bring out the details well.
+1
actually hindi lng high end speaks, even the cheaper ones should be paired with matching gears to bring out the best in them ;D
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+1
actually hindi lng high end speaks, even the cheaper ones should be paired with matching gears to bring out the best in them ;D
Ayan na, nagsalita na si Master Patrick.
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Ayan na, nagsalita na si Master Patrick.
syempre, kanino ko ba natutunan yan ;D
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I've set my mind on getting that marantz sr5005, what speakers at entry and mid range level would be a great match?
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I've set my mind on getting that marantz sr5005, what speakers at entry and mid range level would be a great match?
Polk Audio matches very well with Marantz, I suggest you consider getting the Polk Audio TSi or RTi series.
Check out www.polkaudio.com for details.
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Polk Audio matches very well with Marantz, I suggest you consider getting the Polk Audio TSi or RTi series.
Check out www.polkaudio.com for details.
Tnx sir Sanjay. Suggestion well taken.........anymore suggestions? :) Sir cosmic79 has same suggestion.
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Heres another one:
the polk rti3 VS monitor audio bx2 for mostly movies
for a harman kardon 160 receiver.
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Heres another one:
the polk rti3 VS monitor audio bx2 for mostly movies
for a harman kardon 160 receiver.
as regards movies, i believe we can make a better judgement if the center for the respective speaks are included in the shootout. a3 + a4 siguro vs bx2 + bx centre :)
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cool ya that would be a good idea.
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Updated pricing.
Infinity Primus
Primus 152 - 9.5k (4 pairs left)
Primus 162 - 12.5k (3 pairs left)
Primus 252 - 18.5k (1 pair left)
Pc250 - 8k (4 pcs left)
Ps210 sub - 17.5k (3 units left)
(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff26/marcyao/primus_p5-1.jpg)
Monitor Audio
BRONZE BX SERIES
BX1 - 11.2K
BX2 - 14.8K
BX5 - 29.5K
BX6 - 39.5K
BX Centre - 9.5k
BXFX - 15K
BXW10 - 25K
(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff26/marcyao/4815915470_d5efb80a15.jpg)
SILVER RX SERIES
RX1 - 25.5K
RX2 - 31.5K
RX6 - 47.5K
RX8 - 63.5K
RX CENTER - 19K
RXFX - 31K
RXW12 - 48K
(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff26/marcyao/Monitor-Audio-RX-51-Home-Theater-Package.jpg)
KLIPSCH REFERENCE
RB10 - 10.5K
RB51 - 12.5K
RB61 - 16K
RC10 - 7.5K
RC52 - 11K
RC62 - 15K
RF10 - 19.5K
RF52 - 26K
RF62 - 30K
RF63 - 70K
(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff26/marcyao/klipschrefernce.jpg)
JBL VENUE
voice
stage
balcony
sub 12
package price of 64k
(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff26/marcyao/jblvenue.jpg)
JBL NORTHRIDGE
es10
es25c
es80
es250p
package price of 87k
(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff26/marcyao/jblnorthridgees.jpg)
Come to the shop and check out the different speakers. :)
SHOP IS LOCATED AT UNIT 303 AMAREMCA BLDG, 107A KALAYAAN AVENUE, DILIMAN, QUEZON CITY. TEL NO. 216-1948 OR 435-3210. :)
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ahaha nice selection mark but i dont have the cash. YET. :-X
ipon ipon muna and testing.
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ahaha nice selection mark but i dont have the cash. YET. :-X
ipon ipon muna and testing.
we also have the b&w 600 series available. :)
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pa-advice naman po kung alin sa dalawang set ang mas maganda.
wharfedale VR-100 + VR-C1
or
yamaha NS-P60
eto lang kaya ng budget. thanks!
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pa-advice naman po kung alin sa dalawang set ang mas maganda.
wharfedale VR-100 + VR-C1
or
yamaha NS-P60
eto lang kaya ng budget. thanks!
halos lahat namang speakers maganda... depende na lang yan sa gears behind them.... :)
any speaker will sound crap if they don't match to the whole system. ;D ;)
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Meron na ba sa inyo ang nakapag A/B nitong MA BX2 & PSB B6 kung alin ang mas suave sa music? ;)
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Meron na ba sa inyo ang nakapag A/B nitong MA BX2 & PSB B6 kung alin ang mas suave sa music? ;)
Pareho pong maganda. Kung ano ang mas preferred nyo ang tunog, dun na lang po kayo. :)
I think the B6 sounds sweeter because of the smooth midrange and even frequency response. The BX2 has punchier lows, laid back vocals, and a more detailed and sparkly top end. The former is more correct-sounding (measurement-wise), while the latter has a more exciting presentation. Try both to see which one works best with your gear.
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Pareho pong maganda. Kung ano ang mas preferred nyo ang tunog, dun na lang po kayo. :)
I think the B6 sounds sweeter because of the smooth midrange and even frequency response. The BX2 has punchier lows, laid back vocals, and a more detailed and sparkly top end. The former is more correct-sounding (measurement-wise), while the latter has a more exciting presentation. Try both to see which one works best with your gear.
hmmm... pareho ngang ok. tnx! ;)
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hmmm... pareho ngang ok. tnx! ;)
hmmm, may balak sya ::)
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hmmm, may balak sya ::)
curious lang po ma'am, sir. ;D nasubukan mo na ba ikumpara sa ating "for life" speaker?
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Mga master
Anu po ba mas maganda sa audio? Mission mx1 or polk audio rti a1?
Mas mura kasi si mission,at sya pa lang napapakinggan ko..si rti hindi pa.
Im into rock ,metal ,alternative songs thanks
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Mga master
Anu po ba mas maganda sa audio? Mission mx1 or polk audio rti a1?
Mas mura kasi si mission,at sya pa lang napapakinggan ko..si rti hindi pa.
Im into rock ,metal ,alternative songs thanks
just to give you an idea, the RTi a1 provides big sound for its size.it has detailed mids and good treble extension, which is ideal in mainstream music. it has also a flat response and fairly easy to drive so it would likely partner easily with any gear. I'm not too familiar with the missions, but im sure they are equally good sounding speaks.
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Mga master
Anu po ba mas maganda sa audio? Mission mx1 or polk audio rti a1?
Mas mura kasi si mission,at sya pa lang napapakinggan ko..si rti hindi pa.
Im into rock ,metal ,alternative songs thanks
Check out reviews from customers that bought the POLK AUDIO RTI A1 from Amazon:
1) I forgot how much I love listening to great speakers. These are definitely great speakers. One constant I kept seeing in reviews on AMZN and from professional reviewers is how fun it is to listen to familiar music on the A1s. I took that for a very good sign and, having had them for 2 weeks, I must agree.
They sound very warm. If I had any knock on these it is that they sound a little bright of natural. I am not sure if this is a knock, however, as I am sure that this adds to the wonderful detail these speakers produce. In nearly every familiar song I listen to, I notice new elements that I hadn't noticed before. Voices and string instruments, in particular, sound like they are in the room. Very realistic sounding.
The other thing that these speakers do well is project a wide sound field that spreads well beyond and behind the speakers. These speakers just disappear into a wall of sound. They are also physically quite small! When my friends came over to listen them, they had to look twice to see where the speakers were in my bookshelf. I got them in black because that is the color of my entertainment system. Because they are black, and because they are so small, they are easy to hide among a row of books (nice unanticipated benefit of black - although the pictures of the cherry speakers look beautiful).
Finally, while they sound great at low volumes, these speakers really seem like they want to be played loud! Put on an up tempo song and start turning them up and they really shine. My amp was straining long before these speakers seemed to mind. Now I need to get a new amp with big clean power.
2) i have had these in just over a week and with the hours i have played them i would say that i am entering the break in stage. right out of the box they sounded a little bright, now they sound a little more laid back and smoother. most reviewers on here pair their speakers with a receiver and a sub. i would suggest that you use neither. in stereo i would suggest you use more superior hardware to get more from these gems,such as a good amp,a preamp and a good cd player,or turntable. now for my review.i listened to the polks well into the late hours of the night each night. as my preamp and amp got warmer the polks fell deeper into the sound stage as the sound stage got wider. i turned the lights off and i was conviced they were full range speakers.from the sometimes thunderous bottom end to realistic midband and the smooth highs.as the hours went on i plunged deeper into my cd collection,and the sound stopped comming from the speakers and were placed in locations in the air between and the outer edges the speakers. when i kept on looking at each speaker it did not appear that sound was comming from them. this has happened to me before on a larger scale with my legacy signatures (130lbs each beasts , a little over five feet tall and almost 4grand more).will downing's pleasures of the night (cd) is my usual reference cd for male voices and his voice came so close to me in that center stage i know i could have slapped him if i had reached out my hand. maxwell's cd embroya is my bottom end test cd and wow the gut they had was tremendous. i continued to listen to more cds from jazz to some classic r&b and classical and they got better and better. i love'm. and by the way did i say they were a very good looking pair of speakers.
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AVR is only HTiB 3400 and would like to upgrade my LCR speaker. ( my HTiB is good naman for movies pero bad for music, but when i tested Wharfe 8.2, gumanda xa for music.) my choices of bookshelf's are. .....
1. wharfe 10.1 - 10.2 / 10cm = 6 ohms
2. rti A 1 / csi 20 = 8 ohms
3. svs s-series ( 2nd hand selling for 25k LCR here in Davao) = 8 ohms
more on movies (.mkv). gusto ko un malamig pakinggan, d masakit s tenga. room is 4-5m x 7m lang po. plus un meron bass kunti from BS kc 10" passive lang un s HTiB ko.
TIA!
add on question.
1. dba kung mas mataas un ohms ng speaker, mas magaan dalhin ng reciever,( 8 > 6ohms), tama ba? if yes,
bakit un dynamic power ay bumaba like kun 6 ohms 110 per channel but only 85 per channel if 8 ohms?
2. using wharfe 8.2 or yun stock, nasa 45 to 55 un volume ko ( both 6ohms ), if 8 ohms speaker pipiliin ko, will there be a significant crank up of my volume for my preference like s 6 ohms speaker? ( 70 ata un mAX vol ng reciever ko)
sensya ha, bago lang ako s ganitong hobbie. :-) TIA
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Guys, quick question,
Polk rti a3 or mission m34i?
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Guys, quick question,
Polk rti a3 or mission m34i?
The answer to this question is easy. Go for the Polk Audio RTi A3.
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mga sir, ask ko lang po. Yung avr ko po is 8-16ohm. And yung speaker ko is 4-8ohm. Kaya po ba i drive ng amp ko yung speaker ko? Wala po bang adjustment ng ohm?
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Mga sir...ask ko lang po ang opinion nyo..wala pa ko kasi tym iaudition ...ok ba ang MA RX2 paired with Yamaha RxV 3800 or B&W 685? for music lang ..I listen mostly New wave and Crossover Jazz...mas ok sakin kasi malaki ang boses..kaya ba idrive ng Yamaha Rxv 3800 ung MA Rx2 na 6 ohm? thanks
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Mga sir...ask ko lang po ang opinion nyo..wala pa ko kasi tym iaudition ...ok ba ang MA RX2 paired with Yamaha RxV 3800 or B&W 685? for music lang ..I listen mostly New wave and Crossover Jazz...mas ok sakin kasi malaki ang boses..kaya ba idrive ng Yamaha Rxv 3800 ung MA Rx2 na 6 ohm? thanks
If it's for music only, why buy a receiver? Get an integrated amp or pre-amp power amp combo. AV Receivers sound weak in stereo mode.
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Guys, quick question,
Polk rti a3 or mission m34i?
that would depend on what application and what your taste is. the a3 sounds brighter than the mission. mission being a floorstander has a big advantage on low end frequencies. i see the m34i as as a poor man's rti a9 :)
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that would depend on what application and what your taste is. the a3 sounds brighter than the mission. mission being a floorstander has a big advantage on low end frequencies. i see the m34i as as a poor man's rti a9 :)
He already bought the A3 and is now selling it after liking an A-Audio speaker better.
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He already bought the A3 and is now selling it after liking an A-Audio speaker better.
napansin ko nga sir conan, may mission din pala siya na speakers based on the marketplace pictures he posted.
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Mga sir...ask ko lang po ang opinion nyo..wala pa ko kasi tym iaudition ...ok ba ang MA RX2 paired with Yamaha RxV 3800 or B&W 685? for music lang ..I listen mostly New wave and Crossover Jazz...mas ok sakin kasi malaki ang boses..kaya ba idrive ng Yamaha Rxv 3800 ung MA Rx2 na 6 ohm? thanks
RX2 belongs to a higher class than B&W 685. But still depends on what you're looking for: RX2 is more refined but a shade brighter than the 685. I had the 685 before and found it had tight but boomy bass. If you'll be using it predominantly for HT (seeing that you have a Audio Video Receiver), the 685 might be a better match, easier to drive pa than the RX2. If you'll be using it more for 2-channel stereo, no doubt go for the RX2, but you'll need a more powerful dedicated stereo amplifier to get the RX2 at its best.
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Mga sir...ask ko lang po ang opinion nyo..wala pa ko kasi tym iaudition ...ok ba ang MA RX2 paired with Yamaha RxV 3800 or B&W 685? for music lang ..I listen mostly New wave and Crossover Jazz...mas ok sakin kasi malaki ang boses..kaya ba idrive ng Yamaha Rxv 3800 ung MA Rx2 na 6 ohm? thanks
Its better to give it a time to audition to make no mistake. Everything is a matter of choice (your preference) and if budgets permits.
Enjoy!
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Hello sirs/ma'am, ope you guys can help me...
I got a hand-me-down yamaha rxv 795 AVR from my brother and I'm planning to set-up my first system
I was able to listen to Polk audio and I really like how they sound plus I was given the impression that Polks aren't difficult to drive...
If you guys can please comment on the set-up that I am planning
1. Polk RTi A3 with CSi A4 center
2. Polk RTi A3 with TSi c20
2. Polk RTi A3 with TSi C10
I was only able to listen to Polks so I would also appreciate it if you can recommend other speakers...preferably of the same price range...application will be both for music and movies.
Thanks in advance. Hope you guys can comment because I'm really itching to start with this project...
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mga sirs, alin pong BS speaker ng aaudio ang medyo bassy but with enought highs, ito po pinagpipilian ko;
charisma 6, ezra at genesis, mga 60-70% music then movies ang usage, thanks in advance :)
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mga sirs san po kaya ako makakakuha ng 6" NA 4OHMS woofer speaker ung mga 30-50 watter lang?iba ung pinalit ng pinsan ko eh.bale 8 ohms ung nilagay nya.Any brand recommendations or where to get them?Salamat po sa mga magrereply.thanks
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for pure music listening which is better MA RX1 or RX2?
will be pairing it with Sony Esprit TA-N902 power amp.
thanks.
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for pure music listening which is better MA RX1 or RX2?
will be pairing it with Sony Esprit TA-N902 power amp.
thanks.
RX2 will have more bass and sound "bigger".
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RX2 will have more bass and sound "bigger".
thanks sir.
how about RTi A3 compare sa RX1.
which is better in terms of details and accuracy ng tunog?
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thanks sir.
how about RTi A3 compare sa RX1.
which is better in terms of details and accuracy ng tunog?
I haven't done a back to back listen between RTI A3 and RX1 so I wouldn't be able to give you an accurate picture.
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i auditioned rti a3, rx1 and mezzo 2.....my choice was the mezzo 2.
i had a hard time chosing between the 3 brands. all sounded well and balanced.
took me sometime to decide on what to get.
maybe if i had a more powerful amp....or a different amp. i might lean towards the rx1
the mezzo 2 and rti 3...hmmm a bit on the similar side but the mezzos sounded a bit more refined.. both are easy to drive. a decent 40 watter can.
by the way, i considered the mezzo 1 too, it was at par with the above....very musical. not a bassbeast but i liked the way it presented the bass. if i had a smaller room then.....
the 3 other speaks sounded big for their respective sizes.
all of them sounded nuetral. some on the warm side some on the bright, but just the same, nuetral.
the three speaks????? an eeny meeny miny mo choice.
good day
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oo nga pala. i also auditioned the rx2.....i like the rx1.
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i auditioned rti a3, rx1 and mezzo 2.....my choice was the mezzo 2.
i had a hard time deciding between the 3 brands. all sounded well and balanced.
took me sometime to decide on what to get.
maybe if i had a more powerful amp, or a different amp. i might lean towards the rx1
the mezzo 2 and rti 3...hmmm a bit on the similar side but the mezzos sounded a bit more refined.. both are easy to drive. a decent 40 watter can.
by the way i also considered the mezzo 1, it was at par with the 3 other speaks. it was very musical. not a bassbeast though but i like the way it presents the bass. if i had a smaller room then.....
the 3 other speaks sounded big for their respective sizes.
all of them sounded nuetral. some on the warm side some on the bright, but just the same, nuetral.
the three speaks????? an eeny meeny miny mo choice.
good day
That's exactly also how I would characterize Mezzo 2 as being a "refined" speaker. The Mezzo's aspirated tweeter design also makes it have a slightly more "open" or "spacious" sound. ;D
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If you are looking for speakers dedicated to music, you might want to look for unpopular and rare Tannoy speakers with Dual Concentric drivers that is made in UK.
I currently own MA RS1(bookshelf) and Tannoy D50(Floorstander) and the tannoy is more musical and refined.
MA RS1: Detailed but forward/bright; very good tight bass for its size; exciting/sparkling sound; very good all-around speaker for both music and HT
Tannoy Profile 635/D50: Vanishes in the room leaving you to listen only to music, has never heard a floorstander that can do it; very good imaging; tighter and deeper bass than MA RS1; laid back sound; Very good for vocals, jazz, instrumentals, classical/orchestra.
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Hey guys. Good morning. Hingi lang sana ako ng recommendation kung anong speaker ang ikakabit ko sa lumang Yamaha RXV-440 na nabili ko din dito sa PDVD around 2007. I needed an upgrade from my crappy Konzert 5.1 na medyo masakit sa mata. ;D What should I look for? May nakita akong Jamo na 5 speakers almost 10k lang sa SM appliance and hihingi lang ako ng advice before I take the plunge. Medyo na-ignore ko kasi tong hobby natin nung naging busy sa work. Gusto ko sana floor standing ung fronts para bagay sa TV ko. Thanks in advance! You guys are awesome.
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Hey guys. Good morning. Hingi lang sana ako ng recommendation kung anong speaker ang ikakabit ko sa lumang Yamaha RXV-440 na nabili ko din dito sa PDVD around 2007. I needed an upgrade from my crappy Konzert 5.1 na medyo masakit sa mata. ;D What should I look for? May nakita akong Jamo na 5 speakers almost 10k lang sa SM appliance and hihingi lang ako ng advice before I take the plunge. Medyo na-ignore ko kasi tong hobby natin nung naging busy sa work. Gusto ko sana floor standing ung fronts para bagay sa TV ko. Thanks in advance! You guys are awesome.
Try A-audio ndi ka mag sisisi.
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Which is is better Wharfedale Diamond 8.1 or B&W DM 302? Supposing this will be driven by a Rotel Integrated amp.
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B&W DM 302
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B&W DM 302
sir, can you give a brief description on why you choose the B&W over Wharf like, how would the combination would sound as in speaker + amp matching etc...
thanks.
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Which is is better Wharfedale Diamond 8.1 or B&W DM 302? Supposing this will be driven by a Rotel Integrated amp.
rotel + dm302....
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planning to buy speaker soon for my audio setup... anyone who can give a brief comparison on Monitor Audio BX2 and Polk Audio rti A3?
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planning to buy speaker soon for my audio setup... anyone who can give a brief comparison on Monitor Audio BX2 and Polk Audio rti A3?
http://www.headphiles.org/index.php?topic=2760.0
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Which is is better Wharfedale Diamond 8.1 or B&W DM 302? Supposing this will be driven by a Rotel Integrated amp.
Hands down the 302. Why? Because the diamonds sound ngo ngo to me. Parang kinuluban ng kumot yung speaker.
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how about Klipsh hd 500 vs Wharfdale diamond 9
(http://mediacdn.shopatron.com/media/mfg/3579/product_image/thm/t450_56c655c54add172df0656ab482f28f68.jpg?1349385339)
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/Portals/0/Image/product/DIAMOND9/Diamond_9.HCP_L.jpg)
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Masters recommend naman kayo speakers na warm/laid back to neutral ang character. Yung suitable for slow, ballad, easy listening songs. To paired with tube cdplayer and tube amp. Budget around 30k to 40k. Thanks :)
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Masters recommend naman kayo speakers na warm/laid back to neutral ang character. Yung suitable for slow, ballad, easy listening songs. To paired with tube cdplayer and tube amp. Budget around 30k to 40k. Thanks :)
Yung bagong Epos Epic 2 . . . that might fit your bill
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Masters recommend naman kayo speakers na warm/laid back to neutral ang character. Yung suitable for slow, ballad, easy listening songs. To paired with tube cdplayer and tube amp. Budget around 30k to 40k. Thanks :)
silent but deadly again.. O0 O0 O0
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Yung bagong Epos Epic 2 . . . that might fit your bill
Thanks chief :)
silent but deadly again.. O0 O0 O0
Mabilis talaga mata mo sis... Kailngan magbenta para may ipambili :D
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Masters recommend naman kayo speakers na warm/laid back to neutral ang character. Yung suitable for slow, ballad, easy listening songs. To paired with tube cdplayer and tube amp. Budget around 30k to 40k. Thanks :)
Sir the SVS MTS-01 has a -3db attenuator switch so it can be laid-back or neutral, depending on your preference. Also has port plugs to make it a sealed speaker, for adjusting bass response naman. Sorry for shameless plugin, hehe. :)
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Sir the SVS MTS-01 has a -3db attenuator switch so it can be laid-back or neutral, depending on your preference. Also has port plugs to make it a sealed speaker, for adjusting bass response naman. Sorry for shameless plugin, hehe. :)
Actually Im really considering your speakers sir. I might be able to audition them this Monday ;)
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Eto na lang bro, parang siguradong warm and malambing but accurate . . . para tapos na boksing . . pramis. ;D
(http://audio-database.com/HARBETH/speaker/hlcompact7es-3.JPG)
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Eto na lang bro, parang siguradong warm and malambing but accurate . . . para tapos na boksing . . pramis. ;D
(http://audio-database.com/HARBETH/speaker/hlcompact7es-3.JPG)
Ang daming used nyan ditto na pwede kong ipa-ship dyan.
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Eto na lang bro, parang siguradong warm and malambing but accurate . . . para tapos na boksing . . pramis. ;D
(http://audio-database.com/HARBETH/speaker/hlcompact7es-3.JPG)
Ou nga tama yan kailangan pa ba imemorize yan. >:D >:D
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sir, can you give a brief description on why you choose the B&W over Wharf like, how would the combination would sound as in speaker + amp matching etc...
thanks.
that particular model has one of the best vocals i've heard then compared with diamond 8.1.. tapos maayos din ang combo na yan..
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Masters recommend naman kayo speakers na warm/laid back to neutral ang character. Yung suitable for slow, ballad, easy listening songs. To paired with tube cdplayer and tube amp. Budget around 30k to 40k. Thanks :)
Go with harbeth or those old sonus faber speakers ganda nung tunog warm , relaxing ,very nice vocals and easy to listen with... :D :D
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Eto na lang bro, parang siguradong warm and malambing but accurate . . . para tapos na boksing . . pramis. ;D
(http://audio-database.com/HARBETH/speaker/hlcompact7es-3.JPG)
ganda ng harbeths.. ganda din ng presyo.. hehe.. :D :D
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ganda ng harbeths.. ganda din ng presyo.. hehe.. :D :D
Actually mahal siya, pero potential game ender yan . . . so you actually save in the long run. Wala nang upgrade-upgrade . . . mahal na antidote sa SARS. . .
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Masters recommend naman kayo speakers na warm/laid back to neutral ang character. Yung suitable for slow, ballad, easy listening songs. To paired with tube cdplayer and tube amp. Budget around 30k to 40k. Thanks :)
For some reason I really liked monitor audio silver for tubes. I liked the cayin monoblocks + rs8 combo. Wondering how your cayin tubes + rx2 would sound like.
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Ang daming used nyan ditto na pwede kong ipa-ship dyan.
May available na ganun na stands ba sa SG?
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Eto na lang bro, parang siguradong warm and malambing but accurate . . . para tapos na boksing . . pramis. ;D
(http://audio-database.com/HARBETH/speaker/hlcompact7es-3.JPG)
Go with harbeth or those old sonus faber speakers ganda nung tunog warm , relaxing ,very nice vocals and easy to listen with... :D :D
Kung meron lang sanang Harbeth na 30K to 40K eh susunggaban ko na agad yan!!! ;D
For some reason I really liked monitor audio silver for tubes. I liked the cayin monoblocks + rs8 combo. Wondering how your cayin tubes + rx2 would sound like.
Actually nasa options ko din yan master Gerard... RX6 siguro pwedeng maaudition ;D
Also considering Mezzo 6 :)
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Actually nasa options ko din yan master Gerard... RX6 siguro pwedeng maaudition ;D
Also considering Mezzo 6 :)
Naku pasensya na Don Master Louie for underestimating your purchasing greatness, mas bagay siguro kung MA GX100. Tubes + Ribbon tweets = 8) 8) 8)
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Naku pasensya na Don Master Louie for underestimating your purchasing greatness, mas bagay siguro kung MA GX100. Tubes + Ribbon tweets = 8) 8) 8)
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Anong purchasing greatness ka dyan ultimate king Gerard...
Wala pa nga sa 50% yung budget ko MA Gold series eh :D
Maganda yung Mezzo 2, heard it awhile ago sa Park Square :)
Pasok na pasok pa sa budget ;)
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how about Klipsh hd 500 vs Wharfdale diamond 9
(http://mediacdn.shopatron.com/media/mfg/3579/product_image/thm/t450_56c655c54add172df0656ab482f28f68.jpg?1349385339)
I'm also interested in this comparison. Any review guys?
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/Portals/0/Image/product/DIAMOND9/Diamond_9.HCP_L.jpg)
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Guys, Aurum V6F or Focal 826v for bedroom HT? Will be powered by an AVR only in a 5.1 config.
Thanks :)
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dont buy Klipsh hd 500 ive tested it and i dont like the sub.
the wharfdales are much better but the sub sucks.
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Tanong naman po, anong mas maganda sa FP203 8" vs FE206E Sigma 8"?
salamat.
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hi guys ask ko lang which is better floorstand or bookshelf?i have subwoofer na...10k lang kasi budget ko for speaker...maga-upgrade lang ng front speaker..avr ko ay onkyo entry level lang (ht s3200).. but before deciding to buy i want to consult experts here...ms carnival 6 ang pasok sa floorstand and marami akong choices pag-bookshelf like wharfedale,mission,carnival 2 at kung may alam pa kyo suggest naman.medyo baguhan lang po.salamat po!
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hi guys ask ko lang which is better floorstand or bookshelf?i have subwoofer na...10k lang kasi budget ko for speaker...maga-upgrade lang ng front speaker..avr ko ay onkyo entry level lang (ht s3200).. but before deciding to buy i want to consult experts here...ms carnival 6 ang pasok sa floorstand and marami akong choices pag-bookshelf like wharfedale,mission,carnival 2 at kung may alam pa kyo suggest naman.medyo baguhan lang po.salamat po!
depende kung entry level na FS vs mid level na bs - dun ako sa BS...
try ko maghanap ng rtia a3 BS
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thanks for your reply..rtia a3 around 17K...brand new..try ko maghunt ng used : )thanks..
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thanks for your reply..rtia a3 around 17K...brand new..try ko maghunt ng used : )thanks..
bagay yan sa onkyo
huwag lang sa mga bright sounding receiver...bright sounding kasi ung rti a
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thanks for the suggestion...mmm pero parang lalong nagmamahal ang choices hehehehe...
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bagay yan sa onkyo
huwag lang sa mga bright sounding receiver...bright sounding kasi ung rti a
Not unless type nya ng medyo in your face na effect...
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i guess you're using diamond 10.1?how is it?is it a wise buy if i go for diamond 10.1 instead of carnival?tnx.
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Um.. If its me you are referring to po no, am not on 10.1's, ive auditioned them, though and i like the 10.2's better. And i like it better than carnival 6's. i used to have a wharf center pero sold napo.
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i guess you're using diamond 10.1?how is it?is it a wise buy if i go for diamond 10.1 instead of carnival?tnx.
ayaw ko kasi ung mga carnival hehe...
wharf or polk hehe..
audition mo din ung Polk LSI brader....
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hmmm...ok.straight forward na tayo..if you guys have a budget of 10k (di na pwedeng tumaas pa) what will you buy...since you guys are far more experienced than me...(my onkyo has a sub (onkyo din)..and it's for music..any brand...para manahimk na ko...ang hirap palang mag-hunt nakakahilo...hehehehe
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diamond 10.2 is 8.5k...may sukli pa ako..
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any idea sa price ng polk lsi?pasok ba budget ko dito?tnx.
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go for 10.1 and 10cm
kapag nagpalit ka ng fronts need to replace your center din...hihihi
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10.1 or 10.2?huh!what's the big deal with the center kung 2.1 lang ako pag music?nakakahilo talaga...hehehe tnx!
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10.1 or 10.2?huh!what's the big deal with the center kung 2.1 lang ako pag music?nakakahilo talaga...hehehe tnx!
Ay audio set up lang ba and you wont build a home theater? Kung ganon biased ako towards a floorstander, para pwede ka mag pure stereo 2.0 kung bitin dagdag ng sub para 2.1
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hindi na kasi tugma yan kapag nag movie ka...ang mostly kapag music stereo without sub ang ginagamit namin...
mahirap talaga yan hehe..kung gusto ko ng mgandang pangaudio better have a dedicated stereo setup
10.1 or 10.2 that will be fine...
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Ay audio set up lang ba and you wont build a home theater? Kung ganon biased ako towards a floorstander, para pwede ka mag pure stereo 2.0 kung bitin dagdag ng sub para 2.1
haha...timi meron na sya HTIB pero upgrade sya ng fronts...
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haha...timi meron na sya HTIB pero upgrade sya ng fronts...
Naku, ganun ba, ah tama nga si bro derick, pasok na pala ang 10.1 or 10.2 pero kailangan pati center upgrade, kundi iwan ang dialogue sa movie.
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ganito kasi yan mga brader hehehe...i have onkyo ht s3200 and of course it comes with a 5.1 speakers na...ok nman sya sa movies pero parang di ako satisfied pag music na...that's why i want to upgrade my front speakers...you know naman pag htib plastic lang ang 5 speakers...so you think diamond na ang the best choice instead of carnival?bookshelf vs floorstand with almost same price bracket ang labanan dito...kaya nga mejo hilong hilo ako kakabasa ng mga thread dito...huh!hirap maging mitikuloso hehehe..thanks a lot for guiding what to buy.... :)
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ganito kasi yan mga brader hehehe...i have onkyo ht s3200 and of course it comes with a 5.1 speakers na...ok nman sya sa movies pero parang di ako satisfied pag music na...that's why i want to upgrade my front speakers...you know naman pag htib plastic lang ang 5 speakers...so you think diamond na ang the best choice instead of carnival?bookshelf vs floorstand with almost same price bracket ang labanan dito...kaya nga mejo hilong hilo ako kakabasa ng mga thread dito...huh!hirap maging mitikuloso hehehe..thanks a lot for guiding what to buy.... :)
I suggest idemo mo both speaker with your reciever. ^-^ ^-^
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ganito kasi yan mga brader hehehe...i have onkyo ht s3200 and of course it comes with a 5.1 speakers na...ok nman sya sa movies pero parang di ako satisfied pag music na...that's why i want to upgrade my front speakers...you know naman pag htib plastic lang ang 5 speakers...so you think diamond na ang the best choice instead of carnival?bookshelf vs floorstand with almost same price bracket ang labanan dito...kaya nga mejo hilong hilo ako kakabasa ng mga thread dito...huh!hirap maging mitikuloso hehehe..thanks a lot for guiding what to buy.... :)
simula na ng sars yan brader hehe...
dati ung htib ko 1month lang tinagal bitin sa music e gang palit na ng palit hahaha...bisitahin mo ung gallery ko small time upgrade sars e..lol baka same ka ng mapuntahan...
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simula na ng sars yan brader hehe...
dati ung htib ko 1month lang tinagal bitin sa music e gang palit na ng palit hahaha...bisitahin mo ung gallery ko small time upgrade sars e..lol baka same ka ng mapuntahan...
Small time ba yun dami gears. Pamasko ko.. >:D
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ganun na nga ang epekto...once i got the right speakers di na muna ako magbi-visit dito..hehehe...i don't want to go for auditions nakakapagod...i trust people here..pag ok sa inyo it means ok na din sa akin..di naman tayo sigura nagkakalayo ng tasye sa listening.
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ganun na nga ang epekto...once i got the right speakers di na muna ako magbi-visit dito..hehehe...i don't want to go for auditions nakakapagod...i trust people here..pag ok sa inyo it means ok na din sa akin..di naman tayo sigura nagkakalayo ng tasye sa listening.
Sana di nag kakalayo pero idoubt. Yung di pag bisita idoubt din lalo na pag nakarinig ka ng iba na speaker. ^-^ ^-^
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tama ka nga dun..amalayer! ;D...once you started it you get hooked..so ano na wharfedale na ba ko...
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ganun na nga ang epekto...once i got the right speakers di na muna ako magbi-visit dito..hehehe...i don't want to go for auditions nakakapagod...i trust people here..pag ok sa inyo it means ok na din sa akin..di naman tayo sigura nagkakalayo ng tasye sa listening.
Naku brad, music is 90% personal preference, lahat nyan maganda naman tumunog pero yung hinahanap mong tunog is yours alone. Maaring may kapareho ka pero the best is ikaw makadinig. If used for both ht and music, 10.2 na wharf ako over the carnivals, for me there is more body to the sound of the wharfs, mataba kumbaga ang tunog. But i still maintain the opinion that you also need to upgrade the center.
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Sana di nag kakalayo pero idoubt. Yung di pag bisita idoubt din lalo na pag nakarinig ka ng iba na speaker. ^-^ ^-^
Antokwa ka talaga elms, simpleng kulam ka talaga!
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then i'll go for diamond..thanks a lot!!
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Naku brad, music is 90% personal preference, lahat nyan maganda naman tumunog pero yung hinahanap mong tunog is yours alone. Maaring may kapareho ka pero the best is ikaw makadinig. If used for both ht and music, 10.2 na wharf ako over the carnivals, for me there is more body to the sound of the wharfs, mataba kumbaga ang tunog. But i still maintain the opinion that you also need to upgrade the center.
Ang tanung kaya ba i drive nung HTIB reciever? Baka naman mamaya payat ang output. ^-^ ^-^
Antokwa ka talaga elms, simpleng kulam ka talaga!
Di ah ikaw na din nag sabi na may sarili tayong preference di ba. Saka dati kasi sinabi ko na din yan di na ako bibisita sa PDVD pero ano nangyari wala nakulam lalo kasi pagbalik sa PDVD madami nakilala na mangkukulam. O0 O0
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Ang tanung kaya ba i drive nung HTIB reciever? Baka naman mamaya payat ang output. ^-^ ^-^
Di ah ikaw na din nag sabi na may sarili tayong preference di ba. Saka dati kasi sinabi ko na din yan di na ako bibisita sa PDVD pero ano nangyari wala nakulam lalo kasi pagbalik sa PDVD madami nakilala na mangkukulam. O0 O0
Mahirap naman talaga yung hindi bumisita, there is too much fun in this community to miss out on. Pero isa ka na ngayon sa hari ng mga mangkukulam sis hehehe.
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tama ka nga dun..amalayer! ;D...once you started it you get hooked..so ano na wharfedale na ba ko...
I suggest you try PSB speakers as well... IVe owend wharfedal and polk audio... I replaced them and settled with PSB... If you want warm and relaxing sounding speaks.. Try psb... But again at the end your ears will decide.. We are just suggesting based on whats we hear that is good... Yours maybe differnt.... Enjoy your hunt..
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Mahirap na,am talaga yung hindi bumisita, there is too much fun in this community to miss out on. Pero isa ka na ngayon sa hari ng mga mangkukulam sis hehehe.
Haha may tama ka pati nga lalagyan ni derick and blackstar ng gears sa bundok at para malapit sila sa akin as kapitbahay ay kinulam ko na din mas malupit na kulam yun kasi misis ni derick may gusto wala kapalag palag si derick niyan. ^-^ ^-^
I suggest you try PSB speakers as well... IVe owend wharfedal and polk audio... I replaced them and settled with PSB... If you want warm and relaxing sounding speaks.. Try psb... But again at the end your ears will decide.. We are just suggesting based on whats we hear that is good... Yours maybe differnt.... Enjoy your hunt..
Puwede mapakinggan nga minsan yang PSB. ^-^ ^-^
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Haha may tama ka pati nga lalagyan ni derick and blackstar ng gears sa bundok at para malapit sila sa akin as kapitbahay ay kinulam ko na din mas malupit na kulam yun kasi misis ni derick may gusto wala kapalag palag si derick niyan. ^-^ ^-^
Puwede mapakinggan nga minsan yang PSB. ^-^ ^-^
Anytime elms..daan ka lang sa bahay... Music session tayo..
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Anytime elms..daan ka lang sa bahay... Music session tayo..
andyan naba ung NAD?
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Anytime elms..daan ka lang sa bahay... Music session tayo..
FS ba yung front mo na psb? Mukhang need ko kasi bookshelf lang.
Question: Ano ba ang pag kakaiba ng FS and bookshelf speaker pag sa reciever same sila na set as small?
andyan naba ung NAD?
Wow NAD new gear. ^-^
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tnx.i will consider psb as well.ok dito s pinoydvd maraming nagmamalasakit..cheers!!
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tnx.i will consider psb as well.ok dito s pinoydvd maraming nagmamalasakit..cheers!!
Madami talaga bro. >:D >:D
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tnx.i will consider psb as well.ok dito s pinoydvd maraming nagmamalasakit..cheers!!
masakit din sa bulsa...
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@bonjobby -wag ka lang mapagod magaudition sir, kasi kailangan talaga informed purchase, sayang ang hard earned money na pambili ng gears. Kung satisfied ka na sa equipment mo mahirap narin naman makulam eh, kasi naachieve mo na ang audio nirvana mo as they say. ;D
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@bonjobby -wag ka lang mapagod magaudition sir, kasi kailangan talaga informed purchase, sayang ang hard earned money na pambili ng gears. Kung satisfied ka na sa equipment mo mahirap narin naman makulam eh, kasi naachieve mo na ang audio nirvana mo as they say. ;D
Dapat 100% baka mamaya 99.9 percent satisfied lang parang ikaw so may upgrade pa din. Mas matindi daw yung .1% sa 99.9% na possibility. >:D >:D
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andyan naba ung NAD?
Anong nad sinasabi mo? Wala noh he he he
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Anong nad sinasabi mo? Wala noh he he he
NAd galing bora daw. >:D >:D
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NAd galing bora daw. >:D >:D
Pangarap yang Nad na yan he he he....
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yeah right..which shop should i go na nandun na lahat para di na palipatlipat store.tnx.
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yeah right..which shop should i go na nandun na lahat para di na palipatlipat store.tnx.
Marami kang magiging choices sa watt hi fi sa makati cinema square... Madami din kay sir avshop MLY...
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oki doki salamat po..
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oki doki salamat po..
luk for rex....hihihi
sabhin mo ilayo ung mga mgagandang speaker...nyahaha....
baka makulam ka at worth 30k onwards mabili mo
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yun lang!hehehe...tnx!
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Dapat 100% baka mamaya 99.9 percent satisfied lang parang ikaw so may upgrade pa din. Mas matindi daw yung .1% sa 99.9% na possibility. >:D >:D
Oo nga eh, yung .1% nauwi sa dedicated audio set up hahaha! Langhiyang SARS yan...
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hi guys ask ko lang which is better floorstand or bookshelf?i have subwoofer na...10k lang kasi budget ko for speaker...maga-upgrade lang ng front speaker..avr ko ay onkyo entry level lang (ht s3200)..
maybe you can get the 3 front's for 10k? i suggest getting everything. these are the prized paper woofers from anthony. in my experience they're also easy to drive. these will knock the socks off bookshelves priced at 10k or less. best part of it is that it's locally manufactured, which means more convenient repair services.
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,172551.0.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,172551.0.html)
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3536/3873763132_db60ffd284_z.jpg?zz=1)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7122/8168471776_1d9f9e5866_z.jpg)
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I suggest you try PSB speakers as well... IVe owend wharfedal and polk audio... I replaced them and settled with PSB... If you want warm and relaxing sounding speaks.. Try psb... But again at the end your ears will decide.. We are just suggesting based on whats we hear that is good... Yours maybe differnt.... Enjoy your hunt..
P S B. Even their entry level Alphas are very impressive :)
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hmmm...ok.straight forward na tayo..if you guys have a budget of 10k (di na pwedeng tumaas pa) what will you buy...since you guys are far more experienced than me...(my onkyo has a sub (onkyo din)..and it's for music..any brand...para manahimk na ko...ang hirap palang mag-hunt nakakahilo...hehehehe
BOSE 301 :) :)
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Mga Sir anong mas OK na speakers para sa Rotel RA 04SE? Wharf DIA 10.1 or Polk TSI 100? O baka meron pang iba na same price range. Thanks !
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Mga Sir anong mas OK na speakers para sa Rotel RA 04SE? Wharf DIA 10.1 or Polk TSI 100? O baka meron pang iba na same price range. Thanks !
If you are not picky, there are plenty of 2nd hand speakers at the marketplace that are worth looking at.
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Mga Sir anong mas OK na speakers para sa Rotel RA 04SE? Wharf DIA 10.1 or Polk TSI 100? O baka meron pang iba na same price range. Thanks !
Bring your amp and audition the speakers, that's the only way you'll know.
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I was curious last night and played orchestra music on an FS with a single woofer and twitter and compared it with a 3 way speaker. Interesting to note that there was more clarity and separation with the 3way. Does it mean to say that sound separation requires more woofers/drivers to be more detailed especially on the midbass and other sound near this frequency?
I am hoping to get an expert opinion so I know what upgrade path I need to take.
Or maybe it was simply a limitation of the speaker I was using that is why it cannot replicate all the frequencies I was able to hear on the 3way.
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Magandang question yan sir. Sabi nga ni master JojoD., in a perfect world, masmaganda ang masmadaming drivers, each with designated freqs to produce. Mas-hindi mahihirapan ang mga drivers. However, depende din sa capability & design ng drivers, design ng xover, interaction sa room, speaker aiming/positioning.
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Oo nga master nelson. Napaisip tuloy ako kung ano gagawin ko. hehehe Basa2 na lang muna para magkaroon ng idea.
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Anyone have heard any of these?
http://www.aurumcantus.com/aurumcantu-loudspeaker/index_loudspeaker.htm
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Anyone have heard any of these?
http://www.aurumcantus.com/aurumcantu-loudspeaker/index_loudspeaker.htm
Yup...
You can audition them in Audio Amplified in Libis, QC near Eastwood ;)
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Mezzo 2 or PSB Image B6 for nad 316bee?
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Mezzo 2 or PSB Image B6 for nad 316bee?
NAD + PSB = sweet detailed sound...
Try to find Jason(courage) and Gerard's (sientobente) threads and ask them about the nad psb pairing, they have very good experience with it.
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Mezzo 2 or PSB Image B6 for nad 316bee?
you can pm beginner, he has both speakers. ;)
try niyo din yung amx + b&w 685 ni master Timi. Awesome combination. O0
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na-audition ko na yung mezzo2 + cambridge amp, nagustuhan ko sya ewan ko lang ano magiging tunog nya pagdating sa nad amp. :)
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can anyone tell me where Audio Amplified is? what landmarks are close to them?
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na-audition ko na yung mezzo2 + cambridge amp, nagustuhan ko sya ewan ko lang ano magiging tunog nya pagdating sa nad amp. :)
which cambridge amp yung naaudition niyo sir? i also liked that combination. very forward and engaging yung sound. i have both amps, a cambridge 550a and a nad 326bee. they are very similar in nature. the cambridge is a bit extended in the highs, while nad has more weight in the low end. plus skip the cambridge ICs, the hf coming from it is a bit rough.
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can anyone tell me where Audio Amplified is? what landmarks are close to them?
libis po. tapat ng shopwise
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can anyone tell me where Audio Amplified is? what landmarks are close to them?
Sir across shopwise, between BPI and METROBANK. We are at 2/F madison square bldg., Below us is FLOOR CENTER.
Cheers
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makapunta nga dyan sa Audio Ampified :)
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Mga Sir,
Opinions naman regarding PSB Alpha B1 vs USHER s520?
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Which center channel to match with B&W PM1? Help with those experience currently have CM Centre.. Thanks in advance.
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Which center channel to match with B&W PM1? Help with those experience currently have CM Centre.. Thanks in advance.
Ako kasi, ang principle ko s center channel, i would get the same model/series (for timbre), pero bigger size.
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Ako kasi, ang principle ko s center channel, i would get the same model/series (for timbre), pero bigger size.
Thank you. Wala kasi center channel yun PM1.. Parang stick nalang muna ako sa CM ko ngayon ganda sana yun PM1..
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Ako kasi, ang principle ko s center channel, i would get the same model/series (for timbre), pero bigger size.
yup better parehas ang LCR .... but still you may use...
just had the same principle with efren nelson
for surr kahit maiba na... pero if budget permits same series/model will be the best option
ung pm1 model wala center? for pure audio lang ba yang series na yan?
cm series are quite good
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decided to get the CM9 today instead of the PM1.. same price when stands included for the PM1s but the CM9 sounds fuller with terrific midrange and most importantly for me it matches my current CM centre..
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decided to get the CM9 today instead of the PM1.. same price when stands included for the PM1s but the CM9 sounds fuller with terrific midrange and most importantly for me it matches my current CM centre..
(http://ianvillaceran.com/photos/bwcm9-1.JPG)
That Onkyo looks like it could use a little more space to breathe.... those things tend to get uhhmm "warm" ;)
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Yes thats definitely my next upgrade a stand and dedicated amp next year coz we will another kid coming this summer :)
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decided to get the CM9 today instead of the PM1.. same price when stands included for the PM1s but the CM9 sounds fuller with terrific midrange and most importantly for me it matches my current CM centre..
Congrats Ian! You'd have years of fun with those. :)
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Thanks bro already loving it :)
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Ako kasi, ang principle ko s center channel, i would get the same model/series (for timbre), pero bigger size.
sir Nelson, for example with my ht set-up na BW 685 ang mains ko, dapat yung center ko is the bigger size yung htm61, tama po ba? Yung recommended kasi sa BW site is the smaller center which is the htm62.
How about for the surround speakers? Does it have to be the same brand and series din? 7.2 ang target kong set-up. Sa ngayon 2.1 pa lang po ako. Dagdag lang ako paunti unti pag may budget na.
Salamat po.
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decided to get the CM9 today instead of the PM1.. same price when stands included for the PM1s but the CM9 sounds fuller with terrific midrange and most importantly for me it matches my current CM centre..
(http://ianvillaceran.com/photos/bwcm9-1.JPG)
(http://ianvillaceran.com/photos/bwcm9-2.JPG)
ganda yan both HT and Audio
congrats
balto@ the bigger center the better - pero kung hindi naman ganun kalaki ung space mo at masyado mahal ung bigger center get the small one for surr if you an afford same brand get it if not then wharf 10dfs are quite good on budget
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sir Nelson, for example with my ht set-up na BW 685 ang mains ko, dapat yung center ko is the bigger size yung htm61, tama po ba? Yung recommended kasi sa BW site is the smaller center which is the htm62.
How about for the surround speakers? Does it have to be the same brand and series din? 7.2 ang target kong set-up. Sa ngayon 2.1 pa lang po ako. Dagdag lang ako paunti unti pag may budget na.
Salamat po.
The htm62 is deaigned both for the 685 and 684. If you plan to upgrade to the 683, thats the time you will need the htm61. As for the surrounds it need not be of the same brand. And important in my opinion is the left, center and right channel na parehas.
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balto@ the bigger center the better - pero kung hindi naman ganun kalaki ung space mo at masyado mahal ung bigger center get the small one for surr if you an afford same brand get it if not then wharf 10dfs are quite good on budget
The htm62 is deaigned both for the 685 and 684. If you plan to upgrade to the 683, thats the time you will need the htm61. As for the surrounds it need not be of the same brand. And important in my opinion is the left, center and right channel na parehas.
Room is about 18 sqm. Yung mga dipole surround na nasa MP ok na po ba yun? Like the Mission dipole at 7.5k.
Sir Timi not sure pa po ako sa 683. Parang 50-50 pa po. Center lang po muna target ko sa ngayon. Nag-aalangan din po ako sa htm62 kasi baka dumating panahon na ma afford ko yung 683. Sayang naman yung htm62 papalitan na naman ng htm61. But if in case po na mag stick ako sa 685, di po ba maganda i-match yung htm61?
Thanks po.
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Room is about 18 sqm. Yung mga dipole surround na nasa MP ok na po ba yun? Like the Mission dipole at 7.5k.
Sir Timi not sure pa po ako sa 683. Parang 50-50 pa po. Center lang po muna target ko sa ngayon. Nag-aalangan din po ako sa htm62 kasi baka dumating panahon na ma afford ko yung 683. Sayang naman yung htm62 papalitan na naman ng htm61. But if in case po na mag stick ako sa 685, di po ba maganda i-match yung htm61?
Thanks po.
Match parin yan pero with an 18 sq ft room, malakas na ang 683 and htm61. Yan din inisip ko before i got the htm62 pero ilang years pa naman before i get a 683 so malamang sulit ko na yung center, and most probably hahabol parin naman yung htm62 basta small to mid sized room eh.
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Mga sir, what is your review ng Jamo 426hcs3 ok ba sya sa Wharfedale na 10 series. One consideration is at almost 10k isang set na sya. Intended for ht and audio na rin.
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sir, yun po bang bose na 301 mpdel kaya nyo po irepair yung pinaka box nya?
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hi mga master...any tannoy user here? planning to get mercury V set up...any other brands n nsa same price range? pls advise...thanks.
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Tulong lang.... Monitor Audio BX2 or Polk Audio A3...
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Tulong lang.... Monitor Audio BX2 or Polk Audio A3...
I have auditioned Polk RTi A3 pair with Rega brio before, sound is warm and very good in vocals music at parang busog sya sa amp na to. pero depende parin sa panlasa mo better audition it side by side with MA BX2. IMO
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Tulong lang.... Monitor Audio BX2 or Polk Audio A3...
Go for the Polk Audio RTi A3.
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hi guys . . iam new here . . iam going to buy kevler eon passive speaker and iam going to use an integrated amplifier is this speaker and ampli will work nicely tnxx
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guys, will it be an upgrade if i change my current speakers MA Bronze B2 to the latest MA Bronze BX2? or negligible ang sound difference so keep the B2?
thanks for the help.
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^ buy ka na lang pranela at pledge. yung sukli sa budget mo for BX2 pambili ng regalo for your special someone.
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@markcrenz: ganun ba brod. pakintabin ko na lang pala. hehe. ipon muna for Rx series.
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@markcrenz: ganun ba brod. pakintabin ko na lang pala. hehe. ipon muna for Rx series.
tama ka sir, kung maguupgrade na lang din aim for RX series. RX series will now be replaced by new silver series per what hifi news. baka merong murang RX sa mga AD ngayon. :)
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hello po. magtatanong lang po sana ako ng set ng mga karaoke speakers. budget is 8k. thanks.
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Wharf Dentons and Diamond 155 are priced almost the same. Which one would you prefer and why for music listening. Haven't auditioned any of the 2 right now.
TIA
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Hi guys, I'm closing the choices right now to Pioneer or Yamaha for my next receiver. Considering the prices for 4 BS and 1 center, which would be more compatible with the Yamaha or the Pioneer, aAudio or Wharfedale?
It's going to be 70/30 HT/music.
Thanks ;)
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sir, anyone who have compared RTI A7 and PSB Image T5, which one would you recommend?
thanks :-)
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sir, anyone who have compared RTI A7 and PSB Image T5, which one would you recommend?
thanks :-)
I think both are great options.
And the best thing about your dilemma - you can actually go to Watts Hi Fi (and other stores which sell both brands) and audition both so you can compare.
I made a comparison, but of their bookshelf siblings (the Rti A3 and the B6) and ended up with the B6. But I think it will just be a question of preference on what sound you like as they sound different.
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thanks tonedeaf
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sir, anyone who have compared RTI A7 and PSB Image T5, which one would you recommend?
thanks :-)
I would recomend the Polk Audio RTi A7. Excellent bang for the buck. These speakers sound as good as speakers worth twice the price.
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Polk Audio RTiA3 or Boston Acoustic A26?
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Polk Audio RTiA3 or Boston Acoustic A26?
They have different characters. Polk is bright while boston acoustic sounds dark. Both are available at Watts Hifi in Makati Cinema Square. Try to audition them, it's free, to get to know what you like.
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They have different characters. Polk is bright while boston acoustic sounds dark. Both are available at Watts Hifi in Makati Cinema Square. Try to audition them, it's free, to get to know what you like.
unfortunately im from the province so i cant audiotion any of them :'(
what's dark and what's bright?
what's better for movies?
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What AMP or receiver will you use?
I have owned both Polk Audio RTiA3 or Boston Acoustic A26 and based on experience
Yamaha / Onkyo + Polk = Good
Denon / Sony + BA = Good
Polk Audio RTiA3 or Boston Acoustic A26?
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unfortunately im from the province so i cant audiotion any of them :'(
what's dark and what's bright?
what's better for movies?
me too bro, promdi, but I have manage to hear polk rti a7, paradigm monitor9, monitor audio Rx and Bx series, svs, mordaunt short and mission mx series....among those speakers, polk and MA rx ang nagustuhan before I came accross the mission. I did auditioned these speakers in 3 separate visits to the city, it did took me almost a year before I've finally bought an FS and a center. Ang pagiging promdi ay hindi dapat sagabal sa pagpili ng ikaliligaya >:D
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I have manage to hear polk rti a7, paradigm monitor9, monitor audio Rx and Bx series, svs, mordaunt short and mission mx series....among those speakers, polk and MA rx ang nagustuhan before I came accross the mission.
What AMP/AVR did you use for testing. Matching is very important.
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What AMP or receiver will you use?
I have owned both Polk Audio RTiA3 or Boston Acoustic A26 and based on experience
Yamaha / Onkyo + Polk = Good
Denon / Sony + BA = Good
la pako reciever, pero it would be either a pioneer or onkyo. so the receiver brand affects which speakers to use? di ba maganda labas if i use a pioneer/onkyo/yamaha with BA speakers?
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so the receiver brand affects which speakers to use?
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Again just my experience and not an expert opinion.
onkyo/yamaha with BA speakers = ngo-ngo
Denon/Sony with BA Speakers = very nice.
But definitely it is a matter of preference in the end.
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What AMP/AVR did you use for testing. Matching is very important.
kung ano ang available sa mga shops na lang noon, but at that time, meron na ako noong marantz sr5005. At first, medyo di ko magustuhan and combi with the mission, then, nakabili ako ng marantz PM90, laking tuwa dahil hindi pala ako nagkamali in taking the mission. Then, ibinalik ko ang combi to sr5005-mission after quite sometime, gumanda na rin ang tunog, that, i believe na gumanda ang tunog after the speakers was broken in...
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@coolTOYZ sir, what can you say with yamaha combi with infinity primus 363?
I cannot compare it with other combi since I never have the chance to audition my gears. Promdi din kasi ako. I just relied on reviews din bought my gears from sellers here then shipped to my place.
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I like the Yamaha V571 + Primus combination when I had it.
Not as dynamic/aggressive as a Onkyo + Primus but very enjoyable.
I would call it a bedroom set-up as you can enjoy a movie without feeling tired.
Sometimes when the sound is very aggressive it becomes tiring... but that is just my preference.
@coolTOYZ sir, what can you say with yamaha combi with infinity primus 363?
I cannot compare it with other combi since I never have the chance to audition my gears. Promdi din kasi ako. I just relied on reviews din bought my gears from sellers here then shipped to my place.
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Sandy Gross' previous(Polk Audio LSi-15) and current(Goldenear Triton 7) speaker creations... :)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7616/16719322418_6559d40c44_z.jpg)
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Sandy Gross' previous(Polk Audio LSi-15) and current(Goldenear Triton 7) speaker creations... :)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7616/16719322418_6559d40c44_z.jpg)
Ganda ng lsi sis
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Nice! Impressions/comparisons of the two sir? Pareho silang may dedicated bass drivers di ba?
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Sandy Gross' previous(Polk Audio LSi-15) and current(Goldenear Triton 7) speaker creations... :)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7616/16719322418_6559d40c44_z.jpg)
Sandy Gross' past and present masterpieces! :D
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Sandy Gross' previous(Polk Audio LSi-15) and current(Goldenear Triton 7) speaker creations... :)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7616/16719322418_6559d40c44_z.jpg)
Awesome... LSI is really sexy...
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Hi!
In case anyone is looking for this brand here in the Philippines or you're looking for a good speaker brand to get, you guys might want to take a look at KEF. KEF has been at the forefront of loudspeaker design and technology for 50 years. Its technical expertise and innovative designs grace anything from discreet Custom Install Ci speakers to multi-award winning home theatre systems and class-leading, serious Hi-Fi stereo speakers. To know more about KEF, click this link: http://www.kef.com/html/
I'm currently distributing the following KEF products in the Philippines. Listed below are the products we have.
Product line:
MOU-2 Bluetooth Speakers
EGG Bluetooth Speakers
X300A Wireless Speakers
X300A Speakers
LS-50 HI-FI Speakers
M-100 HI-FI Earphones
M-200 HI-FI Earphones
M-400 HI-FI Headphones
M-500 HI-FI Headphones
Meet ups and shipping available.
Send me a message for prices and further inquiries.
Thank you!
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Sir's,
I'm looking for advice/opinions on these budget speakers. To be used mostly for music listening. I prefer warm with good detail, not tiring when listening for long hours. Also it should produce enough strong bass cause I don't plan on having a subwoofer. Also which brand of AVR or integrated amp will match these speakers.
Mission MX3
Monitor Audio MR4
Wharfedale Diamond 155
Thanks.
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Hi!
In case anyone is looking for this brand here in the Philippines or you're looking for a good speaker brand to get, you guys might want to take a look at KEF. KEF has been at the forefront of loudspeaker design and technology for 50 years. Its technical expertise and innovative designs grace anything from discreet Custom Install Ci speakers to multi-award winning home theatre systems and class-leading, serious Hi-Fi stereo speakers. To know more about KEF, click this link: http://www.kef.com/html/
I'm currently distributing the following KEF products in the Philippines. Listed below are the products we have.
Product line:
MOU-2 Bluetooth Speakers
EGG Bluetooth Speakers
X300A Wireless Speakers
X300A Speakers
LS-50 HI-FI Speakers
M-100 HI-FI Earphones
M-200 HI-FI Earphones
M-400 HI-FI Headphones
M-500 HI-FI Headphones
Meet ups and shipping available.
Send me a message for prices and further inquiries.
Thank you!
I am currently using KEF Q1 120W bookshelf type, and hunting the Q9 for the center speaker but cannot find one. Any KEF speaker recommendation for the center channel that can tonally match with my KEF Q1? Thanks