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DVD Forum => Stores, Shopping & Rentals => Online Shopping => Topic started by: edgarryan on Feb 23, 2010 at 02:12 PM
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After more than a year of ordering DVDs from online stores (most frequently from e-bay), I encountered yesterday the most shocking surprise of my life.
I ordered four DVDs from an online store in the UK (Chaplin Mutuals volumes 1 and 2, Chaplin Essanays volumes 1 and 2) for GBP 49.72. Add the shipping costs to that, and it would come out at GBP 61.50. Yesterday, I got a notice from the Post Office informing me that the package has arrived. When my staff got there, he was presented with a tentative assessment sheet detailing the numerous fees I had to pay. the breakdown is as follows:
At 10% rate of duty, and at P72.11 = GBP 1, the Total Customs Duty amounted to 443.47.
Add to this the Import Processing Fee (P250.00), Customs Documentary Stamp (P250.00), and BIR Documentary Stamp (P15.00), the Total Taxable Cost became P5,393.23.
Multiply the Total Taxable Cost by the EVAT Rate of 12%, and you would have to add 647.18 to the Total Taxable Cost.
Then, it shows the summary of the amount I had to pay:
Customs Duty: P443.00
Expanded VAT: P647.00
Import Processing Fee: P250.00
Customs Stamp: P250.00
BIR Docs Stamp: P15.00
All this brought the total to P1,605.00!
This is more than one-third of the total amount I had to pay for the items plus shipping!
I was really at a loss on how this came about. Shameful as it sounds, I just gave the Customs officer half of that amount just so my package would be released.
Somewhere, somehow, there must be something fishy about this. I wasn't even going to use this for commercial purposes. It is really discouraging when the amount of taxes we are burdened with is not commensurate with the value of the product we purchased.
Any of you have the same experience?
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It happened to me once, in Caloocan Post office, almost the same assessment ,feeling ko niloloko ako that time . What I did was I pretended knowing someone in the City Hall that I would ask if what the Post Office guy doing is okay. He immediately said...pangmiryenda na lang P 200. ???. I gave him 150.
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Yun nga eh. Sa Malacañang na nga ako nagtatrabaho, ganon pa rin ang ginawa sa akin. Ayaw pumayag sa P400.
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naku ganyang ganyan din dito sa pasay post office, gumagawa sila ng sarili nilang kwenta pero sa totoo lang sa bulsa naman nila napupunta un ::) >:(
kada oorder ako sa play-asia dati kahit less than $50 lang kung ano anong tax ang sinasabi nila
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naku ganyang ganyan din dito sa pasay post office, gumagawa sila ng sarili nilang kwenta pero sa totoo lang sa bulsa naman nila napupunta un ::) >:(
kada oorder ako sa play-asia dati kahit less than $50 lang kung ano anong tax ang sinasabi nila
ang masakit pa dun. yung fedex or yung ems.. sige sige lang ng bayad.. tapos sayo i rereimburse, as if go signal ka agad..
buti nalang sa qc di pa ganun ka tindi ang computation. atsaka sa manila rin.. i ordered 10 caps from Uk.. parang.... 50 pesos lang yung tax.
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Yun nga eh. Sa Malacañang na nga ako nagtatrabaho, ganon pa rin ang ginawa sa akin. Ayaw pumayag sa P400.
nagpakilala ba kayong taga malacanang?? usually they pay courtesy to fellow govt employees a..
or ganun na sila ka garapal, talo talo na lahat?
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nagpakilala ba kayong taga malacanang?? usually they pay courtesy to fellow govt employees a..
or ganun na sila ka garapal, talo talo na lahat?
mahigpit siguro pangangailangan ::)
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nagpakilala ba kayong taga malacanang?? usually they pay courtesy to fellow govt employees a..
or ganun na sila ka garapal, talo talo na lahat?
Feeling ko, ganoon na silang ka-garapal. Mabuti sana kung official invoice ang pinakita sa iyo. At least alam mong dapat lang. Pero tentative assessment eh. Tapos, puwede pang pakiusapan. So, ano ibig sabihin nun?
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Feeling ko, ganoon na silang ka-garapal. Mabuti sana kung official invoice ang pinakita sa iyo. At least alam mong dapat lang. Pero tentative assessment eh. Tapos, puwede pang pakiusapan. So, ano ibig sabihin nun?
ganyan din sir samin sa pasay, ung computation parang sa scratch paper lang ginawa ::)
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OK lang sanang magbayad ng tax eh. Pero tingin ko kasi, sobra-sobra ang sinisingil nila. Para namang gagamitin ko for commercial purposes yung binibili ko, eh for personal consumption lang naman. Kung more than one-third ng total retail price plus shipping, or almost half of the retail price yung tax, eh kailangang mag-isip-isip muna. Siguro, meron dapat mag-explain sa atin nito, someone na from BOC or something. Feeling ko, may mali talaga.
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lumalapit na kasi election ;D
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Usually kasi pag less than $50 hindi nila tax. So kailangan mo email yun seller na under value yun item or lagay niya gift. Ang alam ko pag babayaran mo yun tax na compute sayo bigyan ka na nila ng resibo.
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Usually kasi pag less than $50 hindi nila tax. So kailangan mo email yun seller na under value yun item or lagay niya gift. Ang alam ko pag babayaran mo yun tax na compute sayo bigyan ka na nila ng resibo.
Beware sa gift label. I once had a package from JSDVD that was labeled as gift even though I didn't tell them so, it's bargain 999 NT$, less than 2,000 pesos. But it was like 8 discs in individual amaray. EMS ang courier. Post Office opted to calculate it per disc with estimated value. Ayaw maniwala sa printed invoice and I paid someting like 2,000 din for duties and fees. Ayaw din ma-paareglo then kasi may hidden cam daw sa kanila, baka mawalan ng trabaho...
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Beware sa gift label. I once had a package from JSDVD that was labeled as gift even though I didn't tell them so, it's bargain 999 NT$, less than 2,000 pesos. But it was like 8 discs in individual amaray. EMS ang courier. Post Office opted to calculate it per disc with estimated value. Ayaw maniwala sa printed invoice and I paid someting like 2,000 din for duties and fees. Ayaw din ma-paareglo then kasi may hidden cam daw sa kanila, baka mawalan ng trabaho...
usually what i do is ask them to label it as "product samples" or "returned item" or "for repair".. so far lusot (bihira lang ako magpa ship sa local post office)... pero naisip ko lang.. kung talagang uhaw sila.. walang pipiliin yan, mapa sample, or returned item or damaged item,.. i tatax parin yan..
only in the philippines!
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dati me binili ako sa play-asia akala ko makakatipid ako, in the end daig ko pa bumili sa datablitz kasi ang laki ng "tax" sa customs ng post office :o
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usually what i do is ask them to label it as "product samples" or "returned item" or "for repair".. so far lusot (bihira lang ako magpa ship sa local post office)... pero naisip ko lang.. kung talagang uhaw sila.. walang pipiliin yan, mapa sample, or returned item or damaged item,.. i tatax parin yan..
only in the philippines!
Meron ako order sa amazon uk nawala tapos nag padala ulit ng kapalit na item so wala ng value naka sulat na tax pa din ayaw maniwala na kapalit lang yun pero nakuha sa P150... ;D kahit yun sender pareho ng surname mo meron pa din tax sa post office. Yun "gift label" ;D baka sakali makalusot lang...
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Nung panahon ni Pres. FVR,
halos lahat ng naorder ko sa amazon US,
pagpasok dito ay wala na ako binabayaran,
pero ng maupo na si Erap, nasaktan na ako sa taxes and duties,
iilang piraso lang na DVD ay mas malaki pa ang taxes na binabayaran ko,
since then hindi na ako nagpapadala dito sa atin...
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Nung panahon ni Pres. FVR,
halos lahat ng naorder ko sa amazon US,
pagpasok dito ay wala na ako binabayaran,
pero ng maupo na si Erap, nasaktan na ako sa taxes and duties,
iilang piraso lang na DVD ay mas malaki pa ang taxes na binabayaran ko,
since then hindi na ako nagpapadala dito sa atin...
eh nung naupo na si GMA sir? ;D
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eh nung naupo na si GMA sir? ;D
No comment,... HAHAHAHAHA
;D
:D
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Beware sa gift label. I once had a package from JSDVD that was labeled as gift even though I didn't tell them so, it's bargain 999 NT$, less than 2,000 pesos. But it was like 8 discs in individual amaray. EMS ang courier. Post Office opted to calculate it per disc with estimated value. Ayaw maniwala sa printed invoice and I paid someting like 2,000 din for duties and fees. Ayaw din ma-paareglo then kasi may hidden cam daw sa kanila, baka mawalan ng trabaho...
Pag umo-order ako sa Yes Asia, I also ask the, to label it as gift. Or kung hindi pwede, I just tell them not to put any amount on the receipt. Pumapayag naman sila kaya PhP30 lang binabayaran ko rito sa Valenzuela. Pero I also make sure na less than 5 discs lang ang ino-order ko. Pag marami kasi, "nagdududa" 'yung checker. Since walang amount sa receipt, wala naman sila magawa.
Ako naman, I wouldn't mind paying taxes so long as 'yun 'yung rightful amount. Nakakainis 'yung tinataga, eh.
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Meron na naman akong dumating na mga DVD today. 4 separate packages sya, yung isa mas malaki kaysa doon sa tatlo dahil tin packaging sya. Surprisingly, dineliver dito sa office, so I didn't have to pay anything. Nakakapagtaka yung inconsistency. Wala namang nakalagay na through Royal Logistics sya dumaan. Ang weird talaga. Madalas mangyari ito. Ano ba talaga ang sistema?
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sa tingin ko ang sistema is random checking.... kasama na dun yung basta pag fedex/dhl... i tax lahat..
sa laki ng tax defecit, siguro binigyan ng go signal ng BIR ang customs to tax away.... kaya kahit i resibo, e di mas panig pa sa bir since mas liliit ang deficit..
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Dahil yata sa Lateral Attrition yan eh. Pag hindi nila na-meet yung target, sila ang mananagot. Kaya feeling ko, kahit sobra-sobra, icha-charge nila para lang ma-meet yung target nila.
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ako 2 separate experiences....
sa n. domingo (sampaloc, manila) post office, summer 2001, halimaw yung taga customs jan.
worth P8k of "toy" naka label na gift only at naka gift wrap pa. pinakitaan ako ng computation worth P4k
sabi ko wala ako pera, ayun tinawag ako sa office ng custom agent dun kame nagusap at sinabi sa akin:
"magkano ba kaya mo? yung hindi naman kami talo" sabi ko yung uncle ko na pulis na lang kukuha at nung tinatanong ko name nya nagalit, konting pameryenda lang matigas ka pala sige papunthin mo uncle mo.
nakuha naman ng uncle ko, nag-tip lang sya ng P50, pang halo-halo.
june 2008, qc post office nia road, mejo mabait pero same pa din.
pinadalhan ako ng friend ko from canada ng gaming video card worth P12k. pinakita sa akin ng taga customs yung listahan at computation. anlaki: P5.5k kase daw import dues. at kung anu-ano pa.
sabi ko: sir, baka pede yan yung walang resibo katulad dun sa post office sa sampaloc pede dun e.
customs qc: ano? loko yung mga tagaron ha... sino nag offer sila o ikaw?
sabi ko: sila po di ko nga alam na pede pala yun e... ano payag ka ba?
customs qc: e sino ba nag offer? ikaw di ba ... basta malinaw na ikaw ang nag-offer. teka ibaba mo muna yang cell mo. nirerecord mo b ko?
sabi ko: ok, pero P500 lang pera ko dito, pantaxi ko hanggang bahay P150, meryenda pa ko.
cutoms qc: akina yung P500 mo, eto P150 pamasahe mo... sabay abot ng matigas na pandesal na nahagingan ng peanut butter, o meryenda mo.
ayos, me video card na ko!
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Meron na naman akong dumating na mga DVD today. 4 separate packages sya, yung isa mas malaki kaysa doon sa tatlo dahil tin packaging sya. Surprisingly, dineliver dito sa office, so I didn't have to pay anything. Nakakapagtaka yung inconsistency. Wala namang nakalagay na through Royal Logistics sya dumaan. Ang weird talaga. Madalas mangyari ito. Ano ba talaga ang sistema?
may mga times na ganyan nga sila. minsan dinideretso na rin sa bahay ang pag-deliver like 'yung mga order ko nu'ng december. pero kadalasan sa post office ko kinukuha.
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Customs has a quota, you cannot do anything about it. :(
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cutoms qc: akina yung P500 mo, eto P150 pamasahe mo... sabay abot ng matigas na pandesal na nahagingan ng peanut butter, o meryenda mo.
:o
hahaha,....
hanep talaga sa atin, sa lahat na lang ng bagay, may red tape....
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:o
hahaha,....
hanep talaga sa atin, sa lahat na lang ng bagay, may red tape....
on a more serious note... hindi po talaga maganda yung sistema dito sa atin kaya wala talaga pagasa umunlad, kapwa pilipino ginagatasan e.
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Pumapayag ba ang mga sellers like Amazon na naka-under value ang declaration sa resibo..?
Or kung nakalagay na gift sa package niya..?
Nasaktan ako sa taxes na binayaran ko kasi nuon, kaya hindi na ako umulit na magparating dito, puro sa US
ko na lang ipinapadala lahat....
regards..
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May kaibigan ako who tried to ask a UK company to under-declare the cost of his package para hindi siya madali sa customs. Sinagot sa kanya:
You're so rude! We cannot believe you would even suggest we become a part of an improper criminal act such as that. We no longer would like to do business with you. Please consider your order terminated, and do not try to contact us in the future, or we shall be reporting you to the proper authorities.
Tawa kami ng tawa... how British. Lalo na yung opening, "You're so rude!" ;D
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May kaibigan ako who tried to ask a UK company to under-declare the cost of his package para hindi siya madali sa customs. Sinagot sa kanya:
You're so rude! We cannot believe you would even suggest we become a part of an improper criminal act such as that. We no longer would like to do business with you. Please consider your order terminated, and do not try to contact us in the future, or we shall be reporting you to the proper authorities.
Tawa kami ng tawa... how British. Lalo na yung opening, "You're so rude!" ;D
Yan nga po ang ikinatatakot ko, baka yan ang sabihin ng Amazon...
HAHAHA
Thanks sir,...
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Duon sa isang tanong mo, about declaring your Amazon order as a gift, nasubukan ko na yan noon, it doesn't work. They still place the price on the box if it ships outside of the United States, and local customs will still tax you if they feel like it.
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Duon sa isang tanong mo, about declaring your Amazon order as a gift, nasubukan ko na yan noon, it doesn't work. They still place the price on the box if it ships outside of the United States, and local customs will still tax you if they feel like it.
I understand sir,..
Thanks a bunch.
regards,
ABC
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You're so rude! We cannot believe you would even suggest we become a part of an improper criminal act such as that. We no longer would like to do business with you. Please consider your order terminated, and do not try to contact us in the future, or we shall be reporting you to the proper authorities.
Tawa kami ng tawa... how British. Lalo na yung opening, "You're so rude!" ;D
Baka naman si Jar-Jar Binks ang kausap nya. Hehehe.
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Duon sa isang tanong mo, about declaring your Amazon order as a gift, nasubukan ko na yan noon, it doesn't work. They still place the price on the box if it ships outside of the United States, and local customs will still tax you if they feel like it.
Yun yun eh. IF THEY FEEL LIKE IT.
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May dumating na namang notice sa akin kanina. Wala namang siningil, except for the P35 service fee for each package.
Ang kinakatakot ko ngayon, baka singilin na naman ako pag dumating yung 300 Gift Box at yung Chaplin Collection Vol. 1 ko.
Kausap ko yung taga-Post Office kanina. Di rin nila alam ang sistema. Masyadong arbitrary nga.
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Baka naman si Jar-Jar Binks ang kausap nya. Hehehe.
Hindi naman "Meesa thinksa you so ruuuude!" :P
;D
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I had a boxset of Bonnie & Clyde that had 2 special features dvds and no movie dvd. Warner USA was kind enough to send me a replacement dvd with the digipak. However, DHL and customs asked me to pay P850. I don't know how they computed that amount for a replacement item. I had to pay it since our office already advanced the amount when i wasn't home to receive it.
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I had a boxset of Bonnie & Clyde that had 2 special features dvds and no movie dvd. Warner USA was kind enough to send me a replacement dvd with the digipak. However, DHL and customs asked me to pay P850. I don't know how they computed that amount for a replacement item. I had to pay it since our office already advanced the amount when i wasn't home to receive it.
Nangyari sa 'kin dati 'yan sa Amazon. I ordered Pillow Book DVD which I thought was lost in the mail sa tagal ng pagdating. Nag-email ako sa Amazon, and they sent me a replacement. It was delivered via Fed Ex, and Fex Ex charged me. Nagreklamo ako sa Amazon saying na kaya nga local post office lang ang gamit ko para di ako ma-charge ng malaki. Sabi ko pa na they didn't inform me about it. What they did was pay me the amount I was charged for by Fed Ex. A few days after, dumating 'yung Pillow Book na I ordered originally. ;D
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Ibenta mo na lang yung extra Pillow Book mo sa akin. Hehehe.
Mabait pala mga taga-Amazon.
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I had my expiring Cathay Pacific air miles points already and i redeemed an Omron blood pressure monitor which Cathay shipped to the post office via parcel section. Today, i asked my messenger to claim the said parcel in my behalf (Taguig Postal Office). This item was slapped custom duty,expanded Vat, Import Processing Fee,Customs Stamp and BIR Doc. Stamp with a total of 716 plus the postal fee of 40. I'm shocked!!
To those who have knowledge, can you guys educate me why i have to pay this amount since i knew that 100US$ below should be free of these charges except for the postal fee. Does this still apply? Beforehand, i used to brought in DVD via the postal(Mandaluyong) and if 1 or 2 pieces of DVD. I got to pay only 35 pesos. Of course to help the new gov't, i'm willing too.But i sense something's wrong so i asked my messenger to come back and did not pay the charges and just get the assessment sheet.
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^ $50 below sir ang tax free.
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Depende pa. Especially pag walang nakaindicate na price, sometimes even labeled 'gift' get taxed, mas mahal pa, kasi their estimation are often more expensive than the real price...
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^ $50 below sir ang tax free.
the assessment form price it at 20 us. Even amazon price it at this range.So why tax it.
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It's definitely "tongpats." It happened to me before sa Paranaque PO, I have ordered DVDs from Amazon around $ 40 the PO personnel charged me almost Php 1,000. I've complained and he reduced it to Php 500.00 without receipt. He even showed his "computations." Nakalimutan ko lang na Friday pala, it's either naghahabol sila sa "collections" kasi mag-weekend na. Buti napalitan yung mga personnel dun ngayon madami sigurong nag-complain. Sakit na ng taga-customs yan (di ko nilalahat), may mga matuwid naman although kakaunti lang sila.
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I have to say I have been pretty lucky here with customs. I've had some quite costly items shipped to me (Blu-ray drive Blu-ray box sets etc) and have never had to pay more than 40 peso. Saying that the postmistress is a friend and she is also in charge of customs so go figure. Even at the air port I been lucky. I purchased a top of the line Epson all in one printer/scanner etc and is not even available in Phils but the rough price (from older model is 12,000 peso) walked it thru customs at airport. Guy asked me what it was, I tell him printer for home use, I smile. He smiles and says no problem sir have a nice day. I'm on my way. When my stuff arrived here from Thailand (2 seat custom made electric reclining sofa, Sony 52" HDTV, Onkyo 605, loads of furniture etc) I even managed to get it thru customs for just 2,000 peso - in hand. So It really is a crapshoot.
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^ Buti ka pa. I had terrible experiences with customs last year when I ordered one game + Fedex shipping totalling P2,300 I was charged around P1,500 for "storage fee" all those mind-boggling charges. Since then I stopped shipping directly through Fedex kasi you'll have no way of having the charges recomputed...it's either pay Fedex whatever customs asks for import duties and taxes or hindi na makukuha yung parcel.
Is it any different now? I mean, for people without contacts sa post office/Fedex? ???
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Never ever get Fedex for shipping stuff here in the Philippines lalo na galing sa States o UK. Sobrang taga ang rates nila! They said they have a person from customs assessing the taxes and duties so we can't get away with it. They also have this hidden charge called "stocking fee" yata tawag dun which you also have to pay for stocking charges in their warehouse. Sabihin nyo papano magkaka charge eh wala pang isang araw sa warehouse nila yun at kung maliit pwede nang i waive off. Mabilis nga makakarating dito pero yari ka naman sa babayaran mo bago mo makuha. Mas okay okay pa Johnny Air kahit papano pero di na ako nasusulitan lately.
Just read the other thread before, about customs and duties charges. Your breakdown is almost the same as discussed before but sadly you have to learn that way. I think we have to bear the brunt of E-VAT these days kasi kahit JAC is charging the added tax. Ilang beses na rin akong muntik makipagaway sa mga b*bong mga yun! By the way, nagmahal na rin ang singil ng mga post offices na dating 30 pesos tapos naging 35 tapos ngayon 40 pesos na.
FREE TRADE! woohoo
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i agree with the "daya" computation of fedex, tnt, ups, ems.. basta coming from them, siguradong may malaking tax, kelangan mo pa bayaran kasi aabonohan nila kaagad. so i never choose fedex.
ironically, pag direct post office ang route ko, small tax lang 30-40 pesos. so far wala pa naman nawawalang delivery sa akin.. delays lang..
i havent tried risking electronics via post office nga lang.. kakatakot e. but i recall before going to qc post office, nakita ko ang daming amazon big boxes sa may warehouse nila, and those balikbayan boxes... e mukang ok naman sila mag compute.