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DVD Forum => General DVD Discussion => Topic started by: darkgemini87 on Apr 19, 2008 at 05:30 PM
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to me... i don't mind... if its available here i but it here. If not I buy in the states.
Just wanted to know about your opinon about these issue... ???
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It matters only in relation to your player, i.e. if it is selective in playing regions, or what is called region-locked. Apart from distinct packaging and some features present in one region DVD and not in another.
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For me, it really doesn't matter anymore, for as long as the picture quality and the sound quality
is the same, I did raise the question before about the quality of both Regions, and according to them both came from the same mastercopy, making the quality the same.
Regards,
ABC
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if it comes from warner and to some extent fox, it doesnt really matter since most releases mirror the r1 counterpart. BUT, movies by dimension, miramax are an altogether different matter. in my case, packaging is important as much as the content and quality.
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if it comes from warner and to some extent fox, it doesnt really matter since most releases mirror the r1 counterpart. BUT, movies by dimension, miramax are an altogether different matter. in my case, packaging is important as much as the content and quality.
Agreed. Warner releases here pretty much look like the same in R1 in terms of packaging and features.
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It matters only in relation to your player, i.e. if it is selective in playing regions, or what is called region-locked. Apart from distinct packaging and some features present in one region DVD and not in another.
Agree. As in my case, I have a universal player so it doesn't matter which region DVD I buy :)
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Before yes, I started collecting with all R1's, even R2 and R4's, but lately with the cheap prices of R3's...it doesn't matter anymore. ;D
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Yes! R1, being first gen. copy from mother studio, has better AQ than other Zones... MHO :o
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Im not that keen on R1 anymore, instead I go for blu-ray else R3.
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Yes! I stop buying DVD... shifting gear to BD... ;D
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For me...I prefer R1, most especially for the titles that are not availbale in R3. But if the titles are available in R3, that's fine, as long as it has good PQ and SQ. ;)
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i would love to have r1's for my collection but it cost more. so okay na rin ang r3 since they currently come really cheap but the down side is some of it are disappointing from dvd content to packaging. choose those that has the imported stickers on it, personally i think it has better PQ and SQ.
i also agree that warner releases are good quality dvds specially for its price. pag warner walang duda and second thoughts on its quality pipili ka nalang ng titles na gusto mo.
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It matters only in relation to your player, i.e. if it is selective in playing regions, or what is called region-locked. Apart from distinct packaging and some features present in one region DVD and not in another.
I totally agree with sir av.I don't really mind kung ano region kasi region-free din player ko basta. First choice ko is R3 mas madali bilhin mas mura pa! Those DVD's that are hard to find here sa Pinas, no choice but to buy it elsewhere. R1 packaging is still better than R3 that is why I think collectors prefer to buy them.
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When I first started collecting DVD's, R1 palagi ang gusto ko.
But I realized if I continue buying R1 DVD's it will cost more money and I will be getting the DVD later pa.
So I decided to go R3, packaging lang naman ang difference eh.
I buy R3 Warner, Fox, Paramount, Disney, Columbia
Dimension and Miramax I buy R1
also titles not available here such as Flash Gordon :D
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Uy Flash Gordon! Gusto ko rin nyan. ;D
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It only matters to me on a technical standpoint:
Audio track (e.g., Close Encounters of the Third Kind 30th Anniversary Ultimate Edition R3, DTS same as R1. Jaws: 30th Anniversary Edition R1, DTS -- R3 doesn't have DTS track.)
PQ/SQ/format (e.g., The Last Emperor Criterion Collection [R1] 2:1 vs. The Last Emperor [R3 Hong Kong release] 1.33:1)
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Special features/packaging (e.g., The Poseidon Adventure [1972] 2-Disc R1 is exactly the same with the R3 version. The difference is, R1 has Lobby Cards included.)
I'm not much of a special features person, only when the movie is really interesting on many technical aspects (as with the LOTR Extended Edition trilogy) that I dive into what the director and crew have to say. Else, it kills the magic for me. Many R3 Warner releases are no-brainers since they more or less contain the exact PQ/SQ and Special Features as their R1 counterparts -- with a few exceptions.
Batman Begins R3 doesn't have the MTV Movie Awards spoof feature. Not really a big deal, in my opinion. Also, I heard that Blade Runner: the Final Cut R3 doesn't have the preview trailers of other warner releases that the R1 has. I'll have to check my two copies later to confirm (I bought the R3 because I just couldn't wait for my R1 5-disc Ultimate Edition gift set to arrive and I really wanted to see Sir Ridley Scott's changes already!). Other than minor commercial changes, both releases of Blade Runner have exactly the same special features and PQ/SQ, to my knowledge.
Since a lot of R3's are of good quality naman, that's the bulk of the movies I get. Yun lang :D
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BUT, movies by dimension, miramax are an altogether different matter. in my case, packaging is important as much as the content and quality.
Dimension and Miramax I buy R1
Guys, I used to agree with that assessment, until THIS MONTH. The Viva release of Miramax's Gone Baby Gone is a widescreen, full-featured DVD-9 that has the same features as the R1. It's a Disney master (priced at Viva's Disney prices). So R3 may be something to consider for future Miramax releases.
For me, I now only buy R1s/R2s that are not released on R3, or are released locally with poor picture quality. Poor quality releases are those by:
1. Paragon Home Video
2. Solar Entertainment
3. Viva (except Fox/Disney/and now Miramax titles)
4. C-Interactive (case-to-case basis - try searching through threads here at PinoyDVD first to check if the C-Interactive release is good or bad before buying it)
The Poseidon Adventure [1972] 2-Disc R1 is exactly the same with the R3 version. The difference is, R1 has Lobby Cards included.
You were able to find this here, or is that an R3 from another Southeast Asian country? I've been looking for this title in Philippine stores for years, and have never seen it - I've only seen the "Poseidon" remake, the Hallmark mini-series, and "Beyond the Poseidon Adventure." I'd really like to buy one if you can remember where you saw it. Thanks -
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You were able to find this here, or is that an R3 from another Southeast Asian country? I've been looking for this title in Philippine stores for years, and have never seen it - I've only seen the "Poseidon" remake, the Hallmark mini-series, and "Beyond the Poseidon Adventure." I'd really like to buy one if you can remember where you saw it. Thanks -
Dude, go to Singapore ;D I was at HMV at Citylink and literally spent half an hour debating if the Lobby cards were worth it. I don't think the R3 was released here, ever, because I kept searching for it, too. And the R3 cost about half as much as the R1, hence, the amount of time going around the store thinking about which to get.
As I recall, The R3 is in a blue colored packaging while the R1 is in gold/yellow. The packaging of the R3 is great, almost the same as the R1, if I recall correctly. Not cheap-looking.
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doesn't matter to me.. i guess it depends on your player and how picky you are.
if it's available here and its a good release that's fine.. but if im obssessively craving for the extra-special DVD feature or packaging, and cant get it on local stores, i buy online. :D
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I only buy R1 collectible DVDs - not locally available, otherwise, I buy R3..
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Parang mas maganda yung R1 compared to R3. Kasi yung ibang distributors pangit ang pagkaka-copy nila.
Then you see the R1 version you'll see all the bells and whistle (commentaries, deleted scenes etc).
Sa R3 it's just the movie, subtitles and scene selection (pero hindi naman lahat). Kaya siguro they can sell it for a cheap price din.
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although there are prime grade r3s already, would have to say r1 hands down in general. Explains why r1 titles have a higher selling and acquisition price vs their r3 counterparts. ;D
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I only buy R1 collectible DVDs - not locally available, otherwise, I buy R3..
it's the other way around for me naman.. I only buy collectible R3s usually those korean LEs.. otherwise, it's R1 or R2, whichever has the best edition..
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i don't mind basta pareho sila ng audio/video quality at extras.... and most importantly dapat may dts....
i notice kasi sa logitech z680 na gamit ko na yung dolby digital ay medyo mahina at di masyado clear ang sounds unlike pag naka dts ako...
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doesnt matter at all ,
as long as its original heheheh
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i don't mind basta pareho sila ng audio/video quality at extras.... and most importantly dapat may dts....
i notice kasi sa logitech z680 na gamit ko na yung dolby digital ay medyo mahina at di masyado clear ang sounds unlike pag naka dts ako...
not all DTS sounds the same... Have you campared EAGLES " HELL FREEZES OVER " Concert DVD, DTS & DD? ::)
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not all DTS sounds the same... Have you campared EAGLES " HELL FREEZES OVER " Concert DVD, DTS & DD? ::)
Was their a marked difference between the two tracks?
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Was their a marked difference between the two tracks?
DD is louder and has more ambiance sound than DTS, so far it's the only disc I noticed with that difference.. :D
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I have a region-free/multi-region player so player isn't an issue. Deciding on whether to get Region 1 or Region 3 is to me a matter of which one's a better edition. As much as possible, Region 3 because it's cheaper but if the Region 1 edition really is better (more features, etc.), I'll go with Region 1.
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Since I have a multi-region player, it doesn't matter whether the dvd is R1, R2 etc...
I usually go for dvds other than R3s for those titles that are not available here, or if the packaging and/or features of the R1/R2 dvd is/are better ;)
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DD is louder and has more ambiance sound than DTS, so far it's the only disc I noticed with that difference.. :D
Thanks. Was planning to get this at Astro. At least there is a distinction between the two tracks I could choose from.
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i also noticed na mas malakas ang bass kapag DD compared to dts..
region 1 or region 3.. it doesn't matter as long as it has good PQ and SQ.
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i also noticed na mas malakas ang bass kapag DD compared to dts..
region 1 or region 3.. it doesn't matter as long as it has good PQ and SQ.
yes, agree with you that...same comment as noticed by a friend of mine. ;D
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DD is louder and has more ambiance sound than DTS, so far it's the only disc I noticed with that difference.. :D
The first release did not have Dolby, so I doubt if Eagles Hell Freezes over has a well-mastered Dolby 5.1.
I suspect that due to budget constraints for the 2nd release, the Dolby was merely cross-converted from the DTS master then tweaked, rather than originally mastered from the source master tapes.
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The first release did not have Dolby, so I doubt if Eagles Hell Freezes over has a well-mastered Dolby 5.1.
I suspect that due to budget constraints for the 2nd release, the Dolby was merely cross-converted from the DTS master then tweaked, rather than originally mastered from the source master tapes.
I agree with you. I first watched it in VHS format in surround sound format.
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will a region 2 dvd play on a region free player? region 2 is japan right? PAL ata sa japan so pwede kaya mapanood ito sa tin?
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will a region 2 dvd play on a region free player? region 2 is japan right? PAL ata sa japan so pwede kaya mapanood ito sa tin?
If the player or the TV can play both sytem (NTSC or PAL) then you'll have no problem
playing a R2 Disc on a region free player..
Pardon the OT...
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If the player or the TV can play both sytem (NTSC or PAL) then you'll have no problem
playing a R2 Disc on a region free player..
Pardon the OT...
the player is region free, not sure about the tv (1994 pa binili un eh) ;D :D
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Region 2 DVDs from Europe are PAL-encoded while Region 2 DVDs from Japan are NTSC. Even if your TV is not multisystem, as long as your DVD player is Region-Free and can convert PAL to NTSC, any-region dvds will play fine. :)
will a region 2 dvd play on a region free player? region 2 is japan right? PAL ata sa japan so pwede kaya mapanood ito sa tin?
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the player is region free, not sure about the tv (1994 pa binili un eh) ;D :D
it doesn't matter kahit 1901 pa binili basta meron PAL system (R2) or another option; your player can play PAL and output to NTSC pwede rin yan.
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it doesn't matter kahit 1901 pa binili basta meron PAL system (R2) or another option; your player can play PAL and output to NTSC pwede rin yan.
Balita ko naka 1080p na yan eh.... :D
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Siguro kung gustong gusto ko yung movie at makakakita ako ng R1,then R1 would be the primary choice...first is the packaging at the same time para na rin maplay sa PS3...mas magaganda rin kasi bonus contents ng R1
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Doesn't matter which region the dvds are as long as both have the same features and inserts. :)
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I prefer R1 over R3 because of the packaging, printing quality.
We bought an R3 before, The Mummy: Ultimate Edition, it was supposed to have the fullscreen version of the movie on the 2nd disc, but when we popped the disc in. No fullscreen version was available. :P
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me difference ba sa upscaling ang region 1 sa region 3? or pareho lang sila?
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me difference ba sa upscaling ang region 1 sa region 3? or pareho lang sila?
Ideally dapat parehas lang.
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Ideally dapat parehas lang.
sa sound lang ata sir me difference
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It does matter, since the packaging and even the special features are more superior in the R1 versions ;D
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While no longer a priority like before, I still prefer the R1 version. But if it's not really a movie I like so much and the price difference is significant...then the R3 would do.
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A lot of experts here were saying that there should be no difference at all, in terms of PQ and AQ,..
But in my experience, there is a huge difference,
Great samples are Rambo (R3), the audio track is not 5.1, only 2 channel, compared to the R1 that I got from Amazon, and the R2 my brother brought home from UAE...
PQ is very grainy and pixelized, not even in WS format,
as well as the titles NEXT and Forbidden Kingdom,...
I do have the discs here that's how I know...
Cheers..!
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Generally I guess there's not too much difference anymore. These DVDs are of course from Warner, Disney, Universal, Fox, etc. The Viva ones are the exceptions of course as well as from Solar and C Interactive before(I assume the new ones are ok already).
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I don't so, I actually think that the quality of the locally available R3 discs have actually deteriorated in an effort to make them more accessible by lowering the prices, thus resulting in a low quality lower priced products. The R3 DVDs of 8-10 years before are actually more equivalent to their R1 counterparts then.
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Great samples are Rambo (R3), the audio track is not 5.1, only 2 channel, compared to the R1 that I got from Amazon, and the R2 my brother brought home from UAE...
I have the Rambo (R3) DVD. Locally made/published, I believe. It has a DTS 5.1 track.
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The R1's lately has been very tempting.....now you can see 3-Disc Edition Wow! di ba? but the extra 3rd disc which is the digital copy is really no use to me. :-\ I'd still prefer the R1 (may re-sale value) ;D
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A lot of experts here were saying that there should be no difference at all, in terms of PQ and AQ,..
But in my experience, there is a huge difference,
Great samples are Rambo (R3), the audio track is not 5.1, only 2 channel, compared to the R1 that I got from Amazon, and the R2 my brother brought home from UAE...
PQ is very grainy and pixelized, not even in WS format,
as well as the titles NEXT and Forbidden Kingdom,...
I do have the discs here that's how I know...
Cheers..!
I have the Rambo (R3) DVD. Locally made/published, I believe. It has a DTS 5.1 track.
Baka hindi parehas ang Rambo na napaguusapan niyo, baka First Blood yung isa. ;D
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Baka hindi parehas ang Rambo na napaguusapan niyo, baka First Blood yung isa. ;D
I have all 3 Rambo movies. All locally pressed discs. All R3. All have a DTS 5.1 track. I checked again just now.
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The R1's lately has been very tempting.....now you can see 3-Disc Edition Wow! di ba? but the extra 3rd disc which is the digital copy is really no use to me. :-\ I'd still prefer the R1 (may re-sale value) ;D
I personally find the 3-Disc Editions a waste, because I also don't use the Digital Copy. :-\
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I personally find the 3-Disc Editions a waste, because I also don't use the Digital Copy. :-\
pero marami pa rin bumibili hehehe
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pero marami pa rin bumibili hehehe
because they like the movie and more people prefer the R1 better. But if there's a R1 with 2discs and 3discs...most probably lalangawin yun 3discs.
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because they like the movie and more people prefer the R1 better. But if there's a R1 with 2discs and 3discs...most probably lalangawin yun 3discs.
Agree! ;D
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To me? Not. But 90% of my DVDs are R1. Sometimes i even find the R3 with better sound reproduction in Low Frequency... but thats me. ;)
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question: me balak sana akong bilhin na dvd pero region 2, region unlock naman ang dvd/htib ko, me effect kaya sa pagview sa lcd tv un? im using a pana le8
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before i noticed the difference ...
1. R3 medyo grainy video vs R1's
2. R3 audio tends to have loud special effects sounds / music and weak vocal volume ..... R1 is balanced
ewan ko lang kung ganun pa rin nowadays ...... i think ganun pa din .... last time i bought Constantine R3 .... naka heram ako R1 na Constantine ...... iba ang ganda visually ng R1 IMHO :)
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question: me balak sana akong bilhin na dvd pero region 2, region unlock naman ang dvd/htib ko, me effect kaya sa pagview sa lcd tv un? im using a pana le8
Dapat ata multi-system din ang player at tv. Kasi ang alam ko PAL kadalasan pag R2.
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Dapat ata multi-system din ang player at tv. Kasi ang alam ko PAL kadalasan pag R2.
Korek. :)
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Dapat ata multi-system din ang player at tv. Kasi ang alam ko PAL kadalasan pag R2.
Hi sir,...
Kahit ang player lang ang multi-system, it should work perfectly...
I tested a DVD from Dubai, R2 ang region code niya, played on my NTSC TV with a multi system player...
Cheers...
ABC
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so kahit region free na ung dvd player, pag hindi siya multi system useless din magplay ng R2 dvd?
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so kahit region free na ung dvd player, pag hindi siya multi system useless din magplay ng R2 dvd?
Yup, kailangan multi-system din ang dvd player. :)
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Yup, kailangan multi-system din ang dvd player. :)
makikita ba sir sa manual if multi system ang dvd player?
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makikita ba sir sa manual if multi system ang dvd player?
Hmmm. Dapat meron sa spec sheet. Pero sa settings pwede baguhin yun. Dati kasi yung Pioneer ko pwede sa i-set sa PAL or NTSC or ATUO.
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Generally, it doesn't matter to me if it's R1, R2 or R3. I always go for the fully-loaded ones with better looking cover art/packaging, and the version/release with better PQ and AQ. But I do prefer other regions - particularly R1s - over locally produced R3s mainly due to its superior packaging. Although, I find that packaging of Korean R3s can sometimes rival, if not surpass, that of other regions. ;D
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pareho lang basta pareho ang special features
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sa sound lang ata sir me difference
hi sir anya, meron difference sa sound but it's between R1 & R2. I got before Black Hawk Down both originals, when I compared the same chapter all ambiance/ background effects were completely gone. I think the audio bandwith was compressed to accomodate the additional multi-language subtitles, whereas only spanish sub. in R1. :D
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ako di naman sa nagmamayabang but 100% ng dvd collection was R1..wala kasi ako dvd multiplayer.. :(
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I don't mind, but given a choice R1 tops.
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I'd prefer region 1 than region 3. Better packaging and minsan mas marami pa disc included..
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well, in my case 95% of my dvds are r3, 5% very few are r1.. and my home theatre is r3 locked. so i deal with r3, which i'm very happy with, i also don't mind having r1 discs kasi i have i multisystem 'cheap' dvd player also.
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It doesn't Matter to me if R1 or R3, specially if I really want to watch that dvd and I can't wait for the shipping time upon ordering online.
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mas mahal ang R1 compared to R3 di ba? how bout R2 as compared sa R1?
btw, some R2 release have no english subtitles?
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mas mahal ang R1 compared to R3 di ba? how bout R2 as compared sa R1?
btw, some R2 release have no english subtitles?
Mas mahal ang R1, but the quality is topnotch,
I did post before about some negative experiences sa mga R3 releases,
nakakasama lang ng loob kapag naririnig mo ang audio nya at 2.0 lang,
or the video na akala mo VCD ang picture quality,
nadala na akong bumili ng R3, unless naka-indicate na import sya...
On the R2 naman, hindi naman lahat ay maganda, kaya the safest and best choice talaga ay R1 still...
Cheers,
ABC
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Yeah I agree as long as sinabi na imported yung r3 na release and the same features dun ko lang bibilhin..nadala na ako sa mga r3 yung iba ang panget tlaga parang pirated e..
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same goes for me...
kapag may sales bili ako agad.. di ko napapnsin na ang mga sales kadalasan ay mga locally made/distributed dito sa atin.. mostly viva ang gumawa...
bago lang sa hobby na to kaya marami pang lessons na matutunan regarding this hobby....
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ask ko lang if meron nang nagkaproblema with r1 dvds not playing on region free dvd players because of Regional Coding enhancement(RCE)?
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for Region 1 it's quite better coz of some features, than the ones locally manufactured here in our place, SQ & PQ are also at a better standard w R1 IMHO ;)