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Title: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: RMN on Feb 05, 2003 at 01:31 PM
After catching Manila by Night, and in addition to the Mike de Leon thread, I thought it appropriate to start a Ishmael Bernal thread.
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Post by: keng001 on Mar 19, 2003 at 03:26 PM
CITATION

ISHMAEL BERNAL, filmmaker was hailed as ‘the genius of Philippine Cinema”. As a director par excellence he was also accorded the rare honor of being called a true maestro as he paved the way for succeeding directors and a new breed of film artists to perfect their craft.

Twenty five years and 45 films after his first film Pagdating sa DuIo (1971), he elucidated the Filipino life’s complex profundities, confronting verities like death and love as exemplified in cinematic masterpieces, namely, Nunal sa Tubig (1976), City After Dark (l980), Himala (1981), ReIasyon (1982), Broken Marriage (1983), Hinugot sa Langit (1986) and Wating (1994).

A fastidious worker, Bernal rose above the commercial orientation of local filmmaking through the innovativeness of his daring experimentations. His films have multi-level yet clear-sighted messages, unmasking lucidly the figurative resonances of dramatic actions as possibilities to expound fresh insights even to trite plots and conflicts.

While aware of his high level of artistry and distinct cinematic language, he broadened his directorial vision to explore the question of Filipino-ness by unfolding the layered psyche of the Filipino in the movies that dealt mostly with urban realities and marginalized characters. In such themes, he expressed vivid visual statements to assert the inherent dignity of the human personality amid various forms of degradation and struggles for survival.

An actors director who was also known for his subdued yet precise technical perspective, Bernal extended his craft beyond aesthetic aims. He also maintained a manifest fortitude to fight the censors, free the artists, seek justice for the oppressed, and enlighten the audience.

Pursuant to Proclamation No. 33, dated 20th of AprI 2001, and in recognition for his acclaimed filmography whose insightful realities on the Filipino psyche shaped new emblems of cinematic irony and of his creative audacity to redefine directions in the content and form of Philippine cinema,

ISHMAEL RERNAL
is conferred this 11th of June 2001 the award of
NATIONAL ARTIST.

Source:  http://www.upd.edu.ph/~film_ctr/cinesked/2002/upshots7/citation.html
Title: Re:Ishmael Bernal
Post by: RMN on Mar 21, 2003 at 06:57 PM
This was given posthumously, right?
Title: Re:Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on Jul 30, 2003 at 06:30 PM
I just finished watching last night CITY AFTER DARK or is it MANILA BY NIGHT?

Although no opening & closing credits the ensemble cast delivered a fine performance especially Cherie Gil as the lesbian drug pusher. But her voice reminded me of LOUELLA, the comedienne who mostly played the sidekick of Nora Aunor in her 80's movies in Regal Films.

Was the voice dubbed...RMN?

All the social commentaries/issues are present in this movie from prostitution, drugs, homosexuality, adultery, pre-marital sex.

What surprised me was the mind-boggling NARRATION at the end of the movie where the characters lived happily ever after.... ???

Most impressive was the conversation of ALMA MORENO & LORNA TOLENTINO amidst the backdrop of rains.
With all those craping words said in this movie...now I know why the former first lady wanted to ban this movie.
Aside from the fact that it was heavily censored & butchered during the marcos regime, CITY AFTER DARK is worth revisiting.
Title: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: Reuven Malter on Jul 30, 2003 at 06:38 PM
aside from the memorable scene between Alma and Lorna, I can still recall Bernardo Bernardo and his wooden statues of saints.
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Post by: keating on Jul 30, 2003 at 06:42 PM
And bro Reuven Malter, MAYA VALDEZ was a hoot!  ;D

The house of Charito Solis & family was the same house used also by the brilliant BERNAL in the Pridyeder episode of SHAKE, RATTLE & ROLL.


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Post by: Noel_Vera on Jul 30, 2003 at 08:06 PM
Someone else who deserves his own thread!
  ;D

Article on Ishmael Bernal (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/noelmoviereviews/message/31)
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Post by: indie boi on Jul 30, 2003 at 08:58 PM
A friend of mine once worked for Bernal in that movie starring Kris Aquino. He says he was quite the eccentric. During one of the shoots Bernal saw a swimming pool. He said it looked inviting so he took off ALL of his clothes, dove into the pool, swam one lap, got out of the pool and dressed up.   :)
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Post by: Centurion Obama on Jul 30, 2003 at 09:15 PM
I don't think that's eccentric.  I think that's kinda kewl ;D.
Title: Re:Ishmael Bernal
Post by: indie boi on Jul 30, 2003 at 09:18 PM
well, cool in an eccentric kind of way.   ;D
Title: Re:Ishmael Bernal
Post by: Centurion Obama on Jul 30, 2003 at 09:19 PM
hahaha :)
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Post by: Noel_Vera on Jul 30, 2003 at 09:25 PM
Only Bernal story I know is this: when he met Mario O'Hara, he wanted to screw him.
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Post by: indie boi on Jul 30, 2003 at 09:26 PM
Only Bernal story I know is this: when he met Mario O'Hara, he wanteed to screw him.

That's also cool in an eccentric kind of way, hehehe.
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Post by: pinoymovies on Jul 30, 2003 at 10:23 PM
Noel, the movie Pito ang Asawa Ko you mentioned in your article, was that the one with Vic Vargas in the lead and one of the "wives" was a gay character played by Orlando Nadres? Who else played the other wives?
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Post by: Noel_Vera on Jul 31, 2003 at 04:16 AM
I don't know, that, sorry...
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Post by: X44 on Jul 31, 2003 at 10:18 AM
Worked with Bernal a long time ago. Nice guy. Funny, too. One of the talents was playing the prima donna and he threatened (jokingly and only to us) that if the guy didn't behave, he was gonna give him a blowjob.  :) Spent a lot of downtime talking with him. Swore by Postcards from the Edge at that time. Also had a thing for Moby Dick. The name sort of makes that obvious. Joel Lamangan was his AD on the project. Not a very nice guy, least back then.
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Post by: Noel_Vera on Jul 31, 2003 at 10:31 AM
Joel Lamangan AD?  The project wasn't Himala, by any chance?
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Post by: X44 on Jul 31, 2003 at 11:32 AM
No, no. It wasn't a movie. A TVC. Don't even know if the thing got aired.
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Post by: RMN on Jul 31, 2003 at 02:16 PM
Bernal directed two Jolibee commericials--"Ligaw" and the one with  these kids treating out their lola at Jollibee. At the end of the TVC, the lola is so touched that she sheds a tear to which her apo askes:   "LOLA, NAPUWING KA?"   I wonder what other ads he directed...
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Post by: X44 on Jul 31, 2003 at 03:30 PM
Didn't he also direct the  famous Bulak commercial?
Title: Re:Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on Jul 31, 2003 at 07:40 PM
Back to CITY AFTER DARK/MANILA BY NIGHT

 the only places in Manila I recall while watching the movie are BAYSIDE HOTEL in Roxas BLvd, Malate Church near Shakeys in Ermita, the massage & sauna parlors also in Ermita but I'm not keen on MISERICORDIA St.,

Anyone here who knows this place since I was only in grade one when this movie was released in 1980.
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Post by: wedge on Aug 01, 2003 at 06:27 AM
Back to CITY AFTER DARK/MANILA BY NIGHT

 the only places in Manila I recall while watching the movie are BAYSIDE HOTEL in Roxas BLvd, Malate Church near Shakeys in Ermita, the massage & sauna parlors also in Ermita but I'm not keen on MISERICORDIA St.,

Anyone here who knows this place since I was only in grade one when this movie was released in 1980.

Bayside or Bayview, bro Keating? Bayview Hotel (now Bayview Park Hotel) is in front of the American Embassy, at the corner of UN Avenue and along Roxas Blvd. I think Misericordia St is somewhere near that structure. The name's kinda familiar, but I have to look for that street one of these days... :)

The Shakeys in the Malate circle, yes I think it still exists.  :)
Title: Re:Ishmael Bernal
Post by: pablo on Aug 01, 2003 at 04:02 PM
he was eccentric because of his genius.
he was cool because he had flare.
and he could get away with it because he was ishma.

Title: Re:Ishmael Bernal
Post by: moviestar on Aug 01, 2003 at 04:17 PM
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Posted by: X44  Posted on: Yesterday at 03:30:55pm  
Didn't he also direct the  famous Bulak commercial?  
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no mandy reyes directed that.





Title: Re:Ishmael Bernal
Post by: RMN on Aug 01, 2003 at 05:15 PM
But he did do Pinulot ka lang sa lupa and Wating
Title: Re:Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on Aug 01, 2003 at 05:47 PM
Bayside or Bayview, bro Keating? Bayview Hotel (now Bayview Park Hotel) is in front of the American Embassy, at the corner of UN Avenue and along Roxas Blvd. I think Misericordia St is somewhere near that structure. The name's kinda familiar, but I have to look for that street one of these days... :)

The Shakeys in the Malate circle, yes I think it still exists.  :)

Thanks for the information about some places in MANILA...Bro Wedge!

yup its Bayview Hotel not Bayside, and my colleague said MISERICORDIA ST. is a heaven of prostitutes in Manila.  ;)
Title: Re:Ishmael Bernal
Post by: wedge on Aug 01, 2003 at 06:02 PM
Thanks for the information about some places in MANILA...Bro Wedge!

yup its Bayview Hotel not Bayside, and my colleague said MISERICORDIA ST. is a heaven of prostitutes in Manila.  ;)
No problem, bro Keating! Sa P. Faura lang kasi ako nag-wwork eh.  :)

I know where Misericordia st na. It's near UN--parallel yata siya. It's a small sidestreet, we pass through that way one time after having lunch at one of the restaurants na kahanay ng Bayview.

Anyway, I haven't seen City After Dark, hindi ako maka-relate.  :)
Title: Re:Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on Aug 01, 2003 at 06:14 PM
Bro wedge, according to film critic JOEL DAVID, it is Ishmael Bernal's finest film and Noel Vera also wrote a very good review of this Bernal classic.

My first impression to this movie when I first watch it back in the 80's...it is the ugliest Filipino film of all time, just focusing on the denizens of the night as they struggle to their daily life in MANILA.

I have to watch it again to fully understand the vision of the filmmaker and why did he wrote it.
Title: Re:Ishmael Bernal
Post by: wedge on Aug 01, 2003 at 06:20 PM
Bro wedge, according to film critic JOEL DAVID, it is Ishmael Bernal's finest film and Noel Vera also wrote a very good review of this Bernal classic.

My first impression to this movie when I first watch it back in the 80's...it is the ugliest Filipino film of all time, just focusing on the denizens of the night as they struggle to their daily life in MANILA.

I have to watch it again to fully understand the vision of the filmmaker and why did he wrote it.

I really should look for this film... :)
Title: Re:Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on Aug 01, 2003 at 06:26 PM
Spoiler for CITY AFTER DARK:

Look for the cameo of ABBO Q. DELA CRUZ who was the caretaker in the morgue where the gang led by Bernardo Bernardo is finding the body of Alma Moreno.

Abbo dela Cruz is the one who massacre the entire household in Gallaga's ORO PLATA MATA, incidentally PEQUE GALLAGA also did the production design in this Bernal classic.
Title: Re:Ishmael Bernal
Post by: wedge on Aug 01, 2003 at 06:35 PM
Spoiler for CITY AFTER DARK:

Look for the cameo of ABBO Q. DELA CRUZ who was the caretaker in the morgue where the gang led by Bernardo Bernardo is finding the body of Alma Moreno.

Abbo dela Cruz is the one who massacre the entire household in Gallaga's ORO PLATA MATA, incidentally PEQUE GALLAGA also did the production design in this Bernal classic.

Is Abbo Dela Cruz the brother of Uro Dela Cruz?  :)
Title: Re:Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on Aug 01, 2003 at 06:46 PM
Yup.

I think they are both close to Peque since Uro or Rosauro dela Cruz wrote many of Gallaga's best films including SCORPIO NIGHTS, VIRGIN FOREST &
ONCE UPON A TIME.
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Post by: wedge on Aug 01, 2003 at 06:52 PM
Hm, I think so too. Uro has a cameo in Scorpio Nights.

Anyway, I gotta go, bro Keating. It's 7, and i'm still here at the office. Just waited for the number-coding scheme na matapos.

I think I'll pass by Video 48 kung makahabol pa. Will try to look for City After Dark.  :)
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Post by: pablo on Aug 02, 2003 at 09:59 AM

I know where Misericordia st na. It's near UN--parallel yata siya. It's a small sidestreet, we pass through that way one time after having lunch at one of the restaurants na kahanay ng Bayview.


Misericordia ang kalye ng Casa kung saan naka kuluong si Hilda sa Maynila sa Kuko ng Liwanag ni Lino.
Quintin Paredes na ito ngayon at sa Binondo ito (chinatown) hindi sa Malate.

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Post by: milkeemee2 on Aug 03, 2003 at 11:49 PM
I will always remember him for  Working Girls.  In terms of campiness, it is still Ishmael for me.  He was able to  make Ma Isabel Lopez act and for me that's a very daunting task.  The character played by Joel Lamangan is one for  the books.  
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Post by: keating on Aug 06, 2003 at 06:42 PM
On the set of NAGBABAGANG LUHA back in 1988,
Alice Dixson tested the patience of the eccentric BERNAL by being late & unprofessional on the set prompting the late director to call her "HIGH PITCH! HIGH PITCH!"

Bernal vowed never to work again with the actress and sure enough her voice was dubbed.  
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Post by: pablo on Aug 07, 2003 at 04:29 PM
and alice said, "direk, bakit hindi po kayo mag pahingga?"
sabi ni ishma: "not for a piece of crap like you."

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Post by: Noel_Vera on Aug 08, 2003 at 08:30 AM
and alice said, "direk, bakit hindi po kayo mag pahingga?"
sabi ni ishma: "not for a piece of s**t like you."



Sonamagun!  Galing ni direk!!!  ;D
Title: Re:Ishmael Bernal
Post by: pablo on Aug 09, 2003 at 03:03 AM
actually, what alice meant was, "retire."

thats why, that was the reaction of ishmael.
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Post by: keating on Oct 03, 2003 at 06:53 PM
There was a line of Amy Austria in HINUGOT SA LANGIT where Ishma fondly remembers very much when he was still alive....

"HAPPINESS IS NOT AN ACCIDENT...tinatrabaho yan..."

Now that he rest in peace...he finally got it.  :)


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Post by: Noel_Vera on Oct 04, 2003 at 05:50 AM
Hinugot isn't the only one to depict or at least have an abortion in it, but it's the only one I know that focuses on it as its main issue.

Amy's scene was excellent, but my favorite moment there was when after her abortion Maricel spoke to her mother on the phone, and the mother asks her: "how are you doing?"  Maricel is silent, and the camera slowly closes in on her face, waiting for the answer she can't give.  It's one of the most painful, most touching moment in the film.
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Post by: keating on Oct 04, 2003 at 10:36 AM
Maricel's character in HSL is cynical till the very near end of the movie...but in the end you feel relieved when she finally smiled... :)

Noel that telephone scene with Maricel is also one of the most touching scene in the movie but I was moved also with Amy's breakdown scene.

IMO...this Maricel's best performance to date at par with saan darating ang umaga...
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Post by: Noel_Vera on Oct 04, 2003 at 10:56 AM
Don't remember that film.  Who directed that?
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Post by: halvert on Oct 04, 2003 at 03:40 PM
saw bernal's himala courtesy of cinema one's 50 greatest movies celebration. didn't understand it when i was younger but when i saw it again , whoa. it really forces you to think about your faith and why this country is sick. i can't help but imagine how disturbing this movie was in the 80's before 'the last temptation of christ' or 'dogma' or 'el crimen del padre amaro'.  :o
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Post by: keating on Oct 04, 2003 at 06:33 PM
Don't remember that film.  Who directed that?

It was directed by Maryo J. delos Reyes.
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Post by: Noel_Vera on Oct 05, 2003 at 01:09 AM
Maryo J. is competent, but he needs a good script.

Maricel has had hard luck with film roles. Oh, she's enormously talented, much more than say Lorna T., but even Lorna T. gets the chance to act in one of the great film classics (uh, Moral, Manila By Night, Init sa Magdamag). Maricel has this and a few comedies with Bernal, I can't remember what she did with Brocka if any, and I only remember one film with O'Hara, the not very good To Mama With Love.
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Post by: keating on Oct 05, 2003 at 10:41 AM
There's another classic Bernal flick where Maricel is one of the ensemble cast...THE GRADUATES.

As the young lass who can't find a meaningful job but settle as a maid with degree.

See her face on the reunion scene at the end of the movie...really great artist!  :)
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Post by: Noel_Vera on Oct 06, 2003 at 02:37 AM
But The Graduates isn't top level Bernal, tho I haven't seen a bad Bernal film other than Wating (Brocka, on the other hand, has quite a few--Cherry Blossoms, White Slavery, his last picture...).  Hinugot, much as I like it, might be second-tier Bernal, it's not as good as, say, Pagdating sa Dulo or Aliw or Himala or Manila By Night.

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Post by: indie boi on Oct 06, 2003 at 07:23 AM
Aliw -- what a great flick. Amy Austria really sizzled in this film. Too bad she never gets the kind of roles she once got in the 80's.
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Post by: RMN on Oct 06, 2003 at 02:58 PM
I just rememberd his Sharp tvc. (he was endorsing their tv set right?)  Others who appeared in the Sharp spots were Romy Vitug and, of all people, our favorite  Ricky Lo!
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: renato on Apr 17, 2004 at 04:14 AM
I have a question about Manila By Night for you Bernal experts out there.

Now, I have seen mutilated versions of this movie:the one they show at PBC(now Cinema One) and an old videotape(Trigon,I think).The movie is reputably around 150 minutes long,and the most complete version that I have seen is from a video I bought regalfilms.com which runs for about 140 minutes(the entire movie didn't fit the tape!)  Is anyone familiar with the various incarnations of the movie and the difference between the mutilated versions and Bernal's "Directors Cut"? (SPOILERS)One scene in particular(included in the regal tape and not the shorter versions) that I have a question about is a montage that is shown right before the end of the movie wherein a narrator narrates the fate of our characters("William Martinez character went to join DARE","Charito Solis ch.went on to become a social worker","Rio Locsin ch. went on to become a waitress in a deaf and blind restaurant",etc).Is this scene part of Bernal's original cut of the movie?
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Post by: jdv1229 on Apr 17, 2004 at 05:40 AM
I have a question about Manila By Night for you Bernal experts out there.

Now, I have seen mutilated versions of this movie:the one they show at PBC(now Cinema One) and an old videotape(Trigon,I think).The movie is reputably around 150 minutes long,and the most complete version that I have seen is from a video I bought regalfilms.com which runs for about 140 minutes(the entire movie didn't fit the tape!)  Is anyone familiar with the various incarnations of the movie and the difference between the mutilated versions and Bernal's "Directors Cut"? (SPOILERS)One scene in particular(included in the regal tape and not the shorter versions) that I have a question about is a montage that is shown right before the end of the movie wherein a narrator narrates the fate of our characters("William Martinez character went to join DARE","Charito Solis ch.went on to become a social worker","Rio Locsin ch. went on to become a waitress in a deaf and blind restaurant",etc).Is this scene part of Bernal's original cut of the movie?

the scenes with the narrator you mentioned were additional scenes added to make the theatrical cut seem a little longer. due to mutilations made by the censors when it was first released in 1980 Manila by Night was re-titled City After Dark. the original director's version which Ricky Lee's Writer's Studio premiered at the CCP in 1987 (where i was one of the members) was the same print used in the trigon video version. the one from regal home video is a mixed version of the theatrical & director's cut. if you notice they still kept City After Dark as the films' title.
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Post by: keating on Apr 17, 2004 at 10:35 PM
Jojo is right...the Regal Home Video was the mixed version since there was a narration at the end where the characters ended.  :)

Too bad also that the Regal home video has no opening & closing credits.  :(

All the profanities & controversial scenes are all intact on that tape and the late Ishmael Bernal explained to us when he was given the tribute at Pelikula at LIpunan that it was censored again because of the narration shown during Cory's time. I think it was Morato the head of the MTRCB at that time.



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Post by: jdv1229 on Apr 17, 2004 at 10:45 PM
Jojo is right...the Regal Home Video was the mixed version since there was a narration at the end where the characters ended.

All the profanities & love scenes are all intact on that tape and the late Ishmael Bernal explained to us when he was given the tribute at Pelikula at LIpunan that it was censored again because of the narration shown during Cory's time. I think it was Morato the head of the MTRCB at that time.

Thanks Keating... I also got the chance to talk with Direk Ishmael Bernal during the Writer's Studio screening of Manila By Night and one of his biggest frustrations was the severe mutilation his film suffered in the hands of the censors. I remember watching City After Dark in the theaters and it was the only film in Philippine movie history with two pages of cuts & deletions printed on it's permit, you know the one posted at the box-office when you buy the tickets. I'm glad I was able to watch the complete version on the big screen. It's times like these that really make me ecstatic as a film buff.
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Post by: keating on Apr 17, 2004 at 11:01 PM
Censorship is another thing that makes Philippine Cinema another 3rd world country...Jojo.

Other Asian countries are leaving us behind when it comes to movies.

I missed those Bernal classics, those witty lines, social relevance flicks that he did during those times.

When I saw Ishma, I know he'll have a heart problem...during the screening of Manila By Night....he looks fat.
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Post by: renato on Apr 18, 2004 at 03:25 AM
Thanks for the reply.
 
 The best Filipino films from the second golden age(74-86) make me wish that I grew up during the martial law era.I have always wanted  to see most of these films theatrically.

I'll probably do a lo-tech custom edit of Manila By Night with my VCR.The posibility of a decent DVD release(director's cut with deleted scenes+optional english subtitles)seems pretty slim.The only title from 74-86 that has received a DVD release is Gallaga's(excellent) Scorpio Nights.
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: jdv1229 on Apr 18, 2004 at 06:08 AM
Censorship is another thing that makes Philippine Cinema another 3rd world country...Jojo.

Other Asian countries are leaving us behind when it comes to movies.

I missed those Bernal classics, those witty lines, social relevance flicks that he did during those times.

When I saw Ishma, I know he'll have a heart problem...during the screening of Manila By Night....he looks fat.

I agree with you on this one Keating. Censorship is the poison that's killing the already dying Filipino Film Industry. I have several favorite Bernal flicks... Salawahan, Menor de Edad, Broken Marriage, Bakit May Pag-Ibig Pa?, Working Girls, The Graduates, Galawgaw, Aliw even Mister Mo, Lover Boy Ko & Lumapit, Lumayo ang Umaga which of course also includes his classic films Nunal sa Tubig, Manila By Night & Himala.

I had the opportunity of working with Direk Ishmael Bernal in our show Kayo Ang Humatol over ABS-CBN & hosted by Korina Sanchez during the late 80's. I must say that it was quite an experience.
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Post by: keating on Apr 18, 2004 at 11:55 AM


I agree with you on this one Keating. Censorship is the poison that's killing the already dying Filipino Film Industry. I have several favorite Bernal flicks... Salawahan, Menor de Edad, Broken Marriage, Bakit May Pag-Ibig Pa?, Working Girls, The Graduates, Galawgaw, Aliw even Mister Mo, Lover Boy Ko & Lumapit, Lumayo ang Umaga which of course also includes his classic films Nunal sa Tubig, Manila By Night & Himala.

I had the opportunity of working with Direk Ishmael Bernal in our show Kayo Ang Humatol over ABS-CBN & hosted by Korina Sanchez during the late 80's. I must say that it was quite an experience.

That was quite a nice collection...Jojo.

I'm looking for THE GRADUATES but my friends in the U.S. can't find it anymore sa mga Tatak Filipino stores doon. The last Bernal flicks that my best friend sent to me was CITY AFTER DARK & RELASYON. But I prefer BROKEN MARRIAGE over Relasyon.

Ishmael is for the elitist type while Lino is for the masses. He is a cono director if you ask me.
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: jdv1229 on Apr 18, 2004 at 05:57 PM


That was quite a nice collection...Jojo.

I'm looking for THE GRADUATES but my friends in the U.S. can't find it anymore sa mga Tatak Filipino stores doon. The last Bernal flicks that my best friend sent to me was CITY AFTER DARK & RELASYON. But I prefer BROKEN MARRIAGE over Relasyon.

Ishmael is for the elitist type while Lino is for the masses. He is a cono director if you ask me.


Same here... I think Bernal was a better filmmaker than Brocka in terms of his ability to shift gears in the kind of films he made. Bernal could do an extremely funny tongue in cheek comedy like Working Girls, Salawahan & Menor de Edad to komiks material such as Pinulot Ka Lang sa Lupa & Nagbabagang Luha to musicals Good Morning Sunshine & experimental dramas like Bakit May Pag-Ibig Pa? I'm not saying that Brocka wasn't a good director he's one of filmdom's greatest... but it's hit or miss most of the time. Brocka's later movies were not on par with his earlier works.
During my conversation with Direk Ishma as he was fondly called or Nanay by people close to him, I asked him what was his biggest frustration, he then answered not being able to complete the filming of the movie Hustisya with Nora Aunor & Christopher de Leon for Regal Films. It was supposed to be their follow-up movie to the highy successful Himala. As a self-confessed Noranian I told him that's also my biggest disappointment for I had the opportunity to read Ricky Lee's unfinished screenplay of Hustisya.
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on Apr 18, 2004 at 07:26 PM
Lino Brocka is one of the greatest Filipino filmmakers that we had and I agree with you Jojo that he has also his hit & miss.

Maybe Noel could expound about that matter.

HUSTISYA was it the one that Ricky Lee didn't finished because he was mental blocked?

Maybe the superstar could do BULAG...this is dusting already on the shelves of Ricky Lee.  :)

And I know the funny casting about that movie... Mother Lily will tell Ricky..."tayo gawa uli BULAG"... ;D
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: jdv1229 on Apr 18, 2004 at 08:42 PM
Lino Brocka is one of the greatest Filipino filmmakers that we had and I agree with you Jojo that he has also his hit & miss.

Maybe Noel could expound about that matter.

HUSTISYA was it the one that Ricky Lee didn't finished because he was mental blocked?

Maybe the superstar could do BULAG...this is dusting already on the shelves of Ricky Lee.  :)

yeah. Hustisya was the script that Ricky Lee wasn't able to finish because he had mental block.

as for Bulag... I read the script & the main character was supposed to a blind sixteen or eighteen year old girl. you're right Mother Lily was supposed to make the movie with Janice de Belen in the title role, co-starring Susan Roces as the social worker & Nida Blanca as the nun. it was supposed to be directed by Mel Chionglo. it's a shame that the project didn't materialize.

And I know the funny casting about that movie... Mother Lily will tell Ricky..."tayo gawa uli BULAG"... ;D

Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: Noel_Vera on Apr 25, 2004 at 03:19 PM
Wow, Lino vs. Ishma? That's several articles, maybe a book's worth of comparisons.

Off the top of my head, and please don't hold me to these statements, Bernal was the subtler, more understated storyteller. Yes, he was more comfortable with the middle to upper classes, mainly in the city, but he could do the occasional great film set amongst the poor (Himala, Nunal sa Tubig), he was more versatile (he did horror (Frigidyer), action, even a Superman movie). He could ring down all kinds of emotional nuances, and he was a great comic director, and you know what they say about comedy vs. tragedy.

In comparison, Brocka had a limited range, was only subtle up to a point, and I don't think he's ever made a quiet movie in his career (the closest could be Ina Ka ng Anak Mo--significantly, set in the middle classes). But his best works represent the very heart of the Filipino, I'd say. Bernal was the sophisticated internationalist, Brocka the homegrown storyteller.

That said...the two of them were worthless on action movies and noirish action, the, uh, 'proving ground' of truly visual filmmakers. Know who's better? Tikoy Aguiluz, Celso Ad. Castillo, Mario O'Hara.
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: jdv1229 on Apr 25, 2004 at 06:37 PM
Bernal also directed a great action movie called Boy Kodyak with Bembol Roco. It's not as dark & stylish as Bagong Hari but the movie is up there among his best. I cannot recall an action film that Brocka made... it was probably unforgettable. Bernal was also very good in making experimental movies such as the Nora Aunor-Christopher de Leon episode of Bakit May Pag-Ibig Pa the mood reminded me so much of Woody Allen's Interiors. What's interesting about this film is Celso Ad Castillo directed the other episode with Alone Alegre & Romeo Vasquez. One can actually compare the work of these two geniuses. It's a very rare film indeed.
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Post by: Noel_Vera on Apr 26, 2004 at 11:25 AM
I'd like to see that omnibus. Bernal and Ad Castillo, eh? Interesting.

You've heard of the connection between Boy Kodyak and Hollywood, didn't you?

Lino did a few--Hot Property, which wasn't very good, Angela Markado, which was better than I expected (in terms of performance and story, but the visual flash a true noir needs is still missing). I'd say Lino's best noir would be Maynila sa Kuko and Insiang, and in both he had to depend on great cinematographers (Mike de Leon, Carding Baltazar), and both aren't true noir--more social-realist films with noir trappings. And his editing sense is no good.
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on Apr 26, 2004 at 07:30 PM
We have a thread on Lino & Ishma about one of their best works...Maynila sa kuko ng Liwanag vs. Manila By Night.

Both films blew me away...Lino's Cain at Abel had some action sequences on the later part of the movie.

BTW...Noel...MIke De Leon also has no action flick to his credit.
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: jdv1229 on Apr 27, 2004 at 02:23 AM
I'd like to see that omnibus. Bernal and Ad Castillo, eh? Interesting.

You've heard of the connection between Boy Kodyak and Hollywood, didn't you?

Lino did a few--Hot Property, which wasn't very good, Angela Markado, which was better than I expected (in terms of performance and story, but the visual flash a true noir needs is still missing). I'd say Lino's best noir would be Maynila sa Kuko and Insiang, and in both he had to depend on great cinematographers (Mike de Leon, Carding Baltazar), and both aren't true noir--more social-realist films with noir trappings. And his editing sense is no good.

you do? i can send it together with the other one.
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: Noel_Vera on Apr 27, 2004 at 07:36 AM
Mike has no obvious action film (tho Batch 81 has action sequences--not great but better than Brocka's) but you can see his editing is surgically precise--the first requirement for a great action director.

Jo, would you? Thanks!
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on Jun 27, 2004 at 08:56 PM
I read on newspaper many years ago that Ishma was always looking for happiness according to one of his closest friends in the industry, Marilou Diaz Abaya.

That search for happiness will stretch even they are eating or dining outside, like for instance he will say...could you give me happiness for desert?

Friendship of the two dated back to 1980 after Marilou gained recognition at the MMFF thru BRUTAL.
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on Jan 02, 2005 at 11:24 AM
Marilou Diaz Abaya on Ishmael Bernal

"It was important for me to get out of my class, my middle class, which I thought was stifling. And this desire to escape from it was pushed by Ishmael Bernal who introduced me to a universe which I was forbidden to enter all my life by the nuns, by the priests."
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: RMN on Jan 03, 2005 at 04:48 PM
Ah, yes...from the premier issue of the defunct Pelilkula Film Journal
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: RMN on Jan 04, 2005 at 12:45 PM
Gallaga on Bernal:

"The first time we met, it was love at first sight"  ;D
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on Jan 04, 2005 at 12:47 PM
Gallaga on Bernal:

"The first time we met, it was love at first sight"  ;D

 :o ;D
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: xage on Jan 08, 2005 at 09:24 AM
Bernal, Brocka, Gallaga....

No doubt they are good local directors with pretty much fair films on their credit and they are gays.   
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on Jan 08, 2005 at 01:15 PM
Gallaga on Bernal:

"The first time we met, it was love at first sight"  ;D

Got your pm RMN. I was just kidding regarding the old man. Hey I know he's straight.
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: RMN on Mar 04, 2005 at 01:51 PM
Anybody here seen Aliw? I hear it's pretty good.
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: Noel_Vera on Mar 04, 2005 at 02:04 PM
It's plenty good. Multicharacter, multistory film with a strong sense of irony. The guy playing Amy Austria's sugar daddy was a friend of mine--lost contact with him since.
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: indie boi on Mar 04, 2005 at 07:48 PM
Loved Aliw. Great performance from Austria. I also loved how Lorna Tolentino's character was fleshed out.
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on Apr 05, 2005 at 10:03 PM
Saw the late Ishma during the screening of MANILA BY NIGHT hosted by Mowelfund Film Institute at Shangrila Cinema. He was seated two seats apart from us......and so sorry to know that he would join the Creator on that fateful year......

He's great in orchestrating big scenes.....the crowd atmosphere captured immensely in his movies.
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on May 26, 2005 at 09:32 PM
Ishmael Bernal on MILAGROS by Marilou Diaz Abaya

"it's a masterpiece, but you can't direct it kasi hindi mo pa iyan naintindihan....."
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: bad_movie on Jun 05, 2005 at 03:21 PM
A VERY GOOD DIRECTOR....  :)
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on Jun 28, 2005 at 08:06 PM
Joel Torre on THE GRADUATES by Ishmael Bernal

"I always get along with my directors. Here Bernal explained that the movie was a social satire. He said, you have to read between the lines. But first, let's take some mescaline!"
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on Nov 26, 2005 at 03:46 PM
MITCH VALDEZ on CITY AFTER DARK

"Improvisational acting. No script, no dialogue! Bernal just take, take and take!"
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on Dec 08, 2006 at 02:44 PM
Revisiting HINUGOT SA LANGIT last night, I appreciate it even more and Bernal not only attacked the consequences of abortion thru the character of Maricel Soriano also the bonding and friendship that stood between her and Amy Austria.

Soriano comforting Austria in the hospital is one of the best moments in the film.
Title: Re:Ishmael Bernal
Post by: butsoy on Apr 06, 2007 at 09:56 PM
Maryo J. is competent, but he needs a good script.

Maricel has had hard luck with film roles. Oh, she's enormously talented, much more than say Lorna T., but even Lorna T. gets the chance to act in one of the great film classics (uh, Moral, Manila By Night, Init sa Magdamag). Maricel has this and a few comedies with Bernal, I can't remember what she did with Brocka if any, and I only remember one film with O'Hara, the not very good To Mama With Love.


She did "MOTHER DEAR" with BROCKA. A 1982 Mother's Day Movie Offering of Regal Films.
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on Apr 09, 2007 at 10:29 PM
Has anyone seen Bernal's TISOY? Written by Nonoy Marcelo with Boyet de Leon on the lead, it features some interesting cast from the late Moody Diaz, Bert "tawa" Marcelo, Lorli Villanueva, Charo Santos and Jay Ilagan.
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Post by: Noel_Vera on Apr 10, 2007 at 02:25 PM
Not to mention Nora Aunor.

I liked it. Some of the jokes would fly past most audiences, but I thought it was wonderful play. Should do the round of film festivals, they might appreciate it more...
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on Apr 10, 2007 at 07:05 PM
I've only seen three comedies from Bernal, GALAWGAW, PABLING & WORKING GIRLS. In those films, the high literacy of comic timing is still there.

Thanks for the info, Noel. I'll put TISOY on my watch lists.
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: Noel_Vera on Apr 11, 2007 at 01:07 PM
I've always thought most of Bernal's films are comedies, including Manila By Night, Salawahan (great film!), and Aliw.
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: ralfy on Apr 11, 2007 at 09:04 PM
Which films by Bernal are available in DVD, and any news on what might be made available in that format?
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: marj on Apr 12, 2007 at 06:53 AM
Which films by Bernal are available in DVD, and any news on what might be made available in that format?


As far as I know, the only Ishmael Bernal films availbale in DVD are MANILA BY NIGHT (1980), PAHIRAM NG ISANG UMAGA (1989), and RELASYON (1982).
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on Apr 12, 2007 at 12:58 PM
I've always thought most of Bernal's films are comedies, including Manila By Night, Salawahan (great film!), and Aliw.

Ah, yes SALAWAHAN! Even the smorgasboard classic THE GRADUATES blends social realities comically.
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: marj on Apr 27, 2007 at 08:25 AM
BROKEN MARRIAGE (1983) is now on pre-order at regalfilms.com.
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal's PAGDATING SA DULO
Post by: keating on May 05, 2007 at 03:42 PM
Ishmael Bernal on the set of PAGDATING SA DULO (Excerpts taken from Phil. Panorama dated March 7, 1971. RMN thanks for the cool clippings!......more to come pls.)  :D

Shot inside the Magallanes theatre after the last full show of LOLLIPOPS AND ROSES where hardcore Nora fans were part of the hundreds of extras for the preem of Paloma Miranda (Rita Gomez) and Pinggoy Morales (Vic Vargas) film.

Bernie: "Hoy Nick! We are shooting at Magallanes Theatre on Saturday evening. Punta ka naman ha? Anyway it is just a few steps from your house. Hoy.....mahal! Bring your friends ha!"

Maria: (The Elvira Manahan Girl Friday) "Senyorito iniimbita kayo ni senyora sa shooting daw sa Sabado. Manuod daw kayo. At saka .....magdala daw kayo ng mga kaibigan ninyo!:

Butch: (Bernie's and Vic Vargas buddy) "so what are you wearing on Saturday? Bernie wants me to wear my suede vest with the long fringe but I don't want to melt under the Kleig lights. I'll dress up at your house Gani!"

Christian: (Christian Espiritu designed the costumes by Rita Gomez) "Nick sabi ni Elvira magpunta naman daw tayo sa shooting nila sa Sabado. Malapit lang naman sa atin, di ba? Hoy magsu-suit ka na naman ba? Magcasual na lang tayo, tutal informal naman ang mga premieres dito sa atin".

Shooting day, Saturday evening at the Magallanes Theatre in Makati.

11:00 pm- Several hundred movie extras have been positioned at the lobby of the theatre. A huge streamer announcing the premiere showing of the picture is strung across the facade of the moviehouse. Clusters of balloons at the lobby and poster announce: PREMIERE PERFORMANCE OF PAGDATING SA DULO By invitation only. Frankesa Productions is shooting the ending of the Rita Gomez-Vic Vargas starrer. It is a movie within-a-movie in which Rita Gomez plays a stripper turned movie actress.

11:15 pm- Nora Aunor fans have come out after the full show of LOLLIPOPS AND ROSES. Bernie shouts thru a microphone...."Huwag kayong titingin sa kabila, shooting ito! O....ready.......! Lights go almost blinding everyone, Motor! Action! The cameras started to grind and the steel of the theatre are slammed shut! The Nora fans were surprised with disbelief. "Bakit may demonstrasyon na naman ba?!"

11:45 pm- George Sison one of the producers is counting paperbills and he is paying off some of the extras including the Nora fans. People in cars arrive at the lobby. We see actors from Repertory Phils, Theatre Guild and movie actors from various films, some habitues of Los Bravos, American Embassy foreigners, also from Asian Devt. Bank and Makati Villagers motley aggrupation of artists. They swirl about momentarily, only to congeal into little groups. "Where's Elvira?" asks one of them.

12:00 midnight- Cameras have been re-positioned, extras line the entrance to the theatre, leaving a narrow aisle thru which the celebrities are to walk to get to the moviehouse, Behn Cervantes herds everyone into the theatre lobby. "Say, everyone (they are all doing cameo bits, a euphemism whcih means they are merely doing this for kicks as dear friends of the producers/ and director) please get into the lobby now. We need a well-dressed crowd over here." Bill and Linda Reinfield inquire, "Is Elvira around?"

12:30 a.m.- "O everybody....this is a take", Bernie announces. "Motor! Action!" The cameras grind and Nida Blanca escorted by Panchito  walk thru the screaming fans. The names are shouted. The cameras pan towards the lobby and....Cut!

1:10 a.m.- The extras are now yawning and Bernie prods them back to their places . The cameras grind once more and Barbara Perez and Robert Arevalo enter the lobby. Barbara waves at us and walks over to where we are. "Cut!" "Ay Nick.....kung hindi lang kay George!"

1:20 a.m.- Bernie shouts, "I need Rita and Vic now!" There is a long lull while the crew look for the stars. Rita appears from the projection room looking stunning in a Christian creation-a long gown in coral stunning in jet black beads. The neckline plunges way down to here, showing a large expanse of Rita. She darpes a long fringed scarf around her shoulders and slinks dwon the stairs to the lower lobby. She looks every inch a movie star. Bernie shouts again, "I need Rita and......." Rita floats up to him batting her eyelashes saucily.

1:45 a.m.- There is a new camera set up. The action- Rita and Vic arrive for the premiere, step off the black limousine. Rita is supposed to be drunk, and Vic helps her thru the crowd of fans , in the thatre lobby. Bernie warns the extras not to make any noise, no laughing. He wants a completely different atmosphere for this scene. The silence must be ominous to focus on the entrance of the two stars. Final instructions are given. "Motor! Action!" There is dead silence except for the whirring sound of the cameras. The car approaches, the car door is opened and Rita and Vic step out. Rita seems to be drunk, she leans for support on Vic's arms. They walk thru the silent crowd of fans and Rita smiles wanly; she reels, and stumbles. Vic catches her and he rushes her into the lobby. It's a good take!

2:30 a.m.- George Sison is frantically making phone calls and queries about Elvira. She finally arrives  with a coterie of maids, bearing steaming platters of food and pots of coffee. Everyone perks up at the sight of food. Elvira is very chic in a very simple black gown, long sleeved scooped neck with just a spray of rhine stones for accent. In the film she plays the society wife of the director, Eddie Garcia.

3:15 a.m.- The camera starts to grind again and the action begins. Rita ascends the steps, midway she meets Eddie and Elvira, who very pointedly snobs the drunk movie actress. Rita is rebuffed and she slowly ascends the steps followed by the atmosphere players. Just before she gets to the landing at the top, the action is "frozen".

4:00 a.m.- Bernie has shot all the action he can squeeze from the actors. Everyone seems drowsy, puffy-eyed and yawning at everyone's face. He decides that "that should be all for the night". They have been shooting continuosly since eleven that night and Bernie says......"ay maloloki aki!" And tomorrow I have to shoot the niteclub scene with fifty million extras again!" He pulls a Joan Crawford act (throwing his head back and rubbing his temples with both hands) he shouts, "Ayyyy, I feel like flying to Mexico right now!". Shooting wrapped up.
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: jdv1229 on May 06, 2007 at 08:40 PM
interesting story... so he used the crowd watching Lollipops & Roses which incidentally is the film that catapulted Nora Aunor to Superstar status. in the movie Rita Gomez was asked what she thought of Nora & Vilma...
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on May 06, 2007 at 08:44 PM
Too bad most of the cast are now gone. Rita's reply regarding Nora and Vilma is hilarious. Most of the rich socialite from the Magallanes Village were part also of the crowd scene.
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Post by: jdv1229 on May 06, 2007 at 08:48 PM
that's true... only Eddie Garcia, Ronaldo Valdez & Rosemarie Gil are alive among the main cast... a great film Pagdating Sa Dulo was definitely an impressive film debut from an outstanding filmmaker.
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on May 06, 2007 at 08:50 PM
I didn't know from the very start that Eddie Garcia's wife was Elvira Manahan. Subas is still alive, Jo.
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: jdv1229 on May 06, 2007 at 09:50 PM
well Subas wasn't part of the main cast... yup! that was Elvira Manahan...
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on May 07, 2007 at 11:46 AM
I love PAGDATING SA DULO especially Eddie Garcia's character. You get a glimpse on what was happening inside the film industry.
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: jdv1229 on May 07, 2007 at 06:06 PM
i know some people who've seen it recently and they didn't like it that much... they asked why Pagdating Sa Dulo was praised to high heavens...
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on May 07, 2007 at 06:27 PM
Only a few people came to Sm Megamall when PELIKULA AT LIPUNAN screened it, primarily because of the dead screening time 4pm. I had to cut my work just to be there in time. They showed the 16mm print!
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: jdv1229 on May 07, 2007 at 06:32 PM
that's the only existing print housed at the Philippine Information Agency...
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on May 07, 2007 at 06:37 PM
The projector was infront of me. Its good the print didn't burn.  :D
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: jdv1229 on May 07, 2007 at 06:47 PM
well i guess it was more taken cared of... thank God for that one existing print that Filipino film buffs will still have the chance to watch this landmark debut film by Bernal...
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on May 07, 2007 at 06:50 PM
Too bad Brocka's WANTED: PERFECT MOTHER was lost forever except for the video copy in CCP.
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: jdv1229 on May 07, 2007 at 06:52 PM
that copy was donated by Vincent Nebrida...
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on May 07, 2007 at 06:55 PM
If only the government can put an excellent archive that can preserve all our classic films so that future generations will see it just like in the U.S.
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: jdv1229 on May 07, 2007 at 07:01 PM
we're still hoping... but it's expensive to put up a film archive...
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on May 23, 2007 at 05:41 PM
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m132/keating_01/bernalvilmaboyet.jpg)

Ishmael Bernal confer with Christopher de Leon and Vilma Santos on the set of RELASYON.
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Post by: RMN on May 24, 2007 at 02:37 PM
Did anybody here hang out in Kasama???
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on Jun 05, 2007 at 07:58 PM
KASAMA is somewhere in Manila? I might be wrong. KINGKONG the bar owned by the Abaya's is the one I remember since we ate there together with my cousins who are buddies of the daughter of Agrix Films honcho, Sofronio Blando.
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: RMN on Jun 09, 2007 at 06:11 PM
What if he did Maynila sa Kuko?
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: Noel_Vera on Jun 10, 2007 at 02:05 PM
In a way he did--Manila By Night.

Hard to see Bernal doing Maynila sa Mga Kuko. It's  a straightforward story with relatively simple characters. Bernal was rarely straightforward and never simple.
Title: Re: Revisiting Ishmael Bernal's MANILA BY NIGHT
Post by: keating on Jun 11, 2007 at 04:01 PM
(http://widget.slide.com/rdr/1/1/4/S/100000007341bd1/1/0/CeLG5lwd4T8OGppSr89rydgTjwNAcr0m.jpg) (http://www.slide.com/s/SjnI_eaR1T8j6vgetkO5JtRz0vludC9v?referrer=hlnk)

MANILA BY NIGHT  (Ishmael Bernal, 1980)

Last time I saw this film back in 1996 when Pelikula at Lipunan made a tribute to Ishmael Bernal at the Shang Cinema. The man was present even acknowledging his greatest masterpiece that was banned by the Marcos government as the most mutilated, mangled and censored very badly among his works. Even the Aquino govt can't hold of it, ordered them to put the mind-boggling narration at the finale. The 35mm print that they screened was the same print that they smuggled outside the country without the consent of the Marcos regime going to Berlin Film Festival. On that same year unfortunately, the film maestro met his Creator.

How does the film looks now 27 years later? Bernal's vision of MANILA is still seedier, dark, pessimistic, the characters prey on each other to survive making MANILA sort of a monster creature where tales of joy and sufferings interweaves in the city. Bernal sees hope in the relationships of the characters. Once again death strikes in his oeuvre, in the most strange world during New Year's eve just when everyone is celebrating and the sight of the wrong corpse makes you wonder the absurdity of existence in the city. Just when the characters are starting to tumble down, Pebrero (Orestes Ojeda) the taxi driver will be found out by the waitress (Lorna Tolentino) that he is a womanizer. Ade (Alma Moreno) whom he thought was a nurse, is a prostitute. The blind masseuse (Rio Locsin) is about to be sold by her boyfriend to a foreigner, the climax reach to an end where there is hope and gems in the city. But no one is exempted from the defeat of the characters. Still Bernal manage to create the stunning scene at the Bay where Kano (Cherie Gil) the lesbian and drug dealer and Alex (William Martinez) the drug addict son of a former prostitute (Charito Solis) experience a total euphoria. These two people seek their dreams and aspirations both of whom have failed in love joined by a few friends, drag queens and standbys. The pier is filled with laughter and drug-induced camaraderie and its kinetic energy somehow ignites the sky with illusions and firecrackers thrown in. The joy that fills the screen is not a total euphoria but an escape from the cruelty of the city. The murder of Ade still puzzles me.

Started as an exploitation piece with an all-star cast, MANILA BY NIGHT resurrects again and grabs you. Its funny, shocking, witty, full of surprises and works in various level. Ishmael Bernal's greatest masterpiece lives on!
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: Noel_Vera on Jun 12, 2007 at 05:29 AM
It's a great and harrowing film, but the power doesn't come from its vision of Manila per se (the city actually looks cleaner there than it does now), but from the sheer viciousness of the characters. Pollution levels change over the years, but hate and spite are forever.
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Post by: keating on Jun 12, 2007 at 07:50 PM
Its more depressing to see Brocka's MAYNILA SA MGA KUKO NG LIWANAG especially the finale. The look on Bembol Roco's face is so tragic. But then its hard to dismissed Bernal's MANILA BY NIGHT. In the end, the city lives again.
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: Noel_Vera on Jun 13, 2007 at 06:56 AM
The city lives again, and William Martinez is free to screw up his life again. It's a more cheerful face, but there's a rictus behind the cheer.
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Post by: wedge on Jun 13, 2007 at 07:09 AM
I think the film is a denigration of the city through each of the characters' "eyes". It figuratively exclaims that Manila is a vestige of moral canker.

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Post by: Noel_Vera on Jun 13, 2007 at 09:28 AM
A huge, swollen, pulsing canker. It's the vitality that's so obscene. These people are going to hell on fourth gear.
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on Jun 13, 2007 at 09:50 AM
Sharon Manabat the sidekick of the blind masseuse played by Rio Locsin is the only redeemable character in the film. Where is she now? I remember her in KALUSKOS MUSMOS. 
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Post by: keating on Jun 23, 2007 at 01:51 PM
Ishmael Bernal's double memoir is under the custody of Jorge Arago. Some voice tapes also were kept under his custody. Marilou a few years ago mentioned they will push for it so that it can be published soon.

A book probably about Ishma will be a bestseller. Aside from his films, his life is cinematically entertaining already.
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Post by: keating on Sep 01, 2007 at 07:22 PM
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m132/keating_01/hinugot.jpg)

Poster ad of HINUGOT SA LANGIT on broadsheets. Very different from the original poster in black background wherein a baby is thrown upside down.
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Post by: keating on Sep 01, 2007 at 07:36 PM
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m132/keating_01/gamitin.jpg)

I'm looking for a copy of this film. Produced by Via Hoffman during the ECP craze in mid-80's.
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Post by: jdv1229 on Sep 01, 2007 at 07:46 PM
Gamitin Mo Ako was Bernal at his worst...  it was a huge flop even Rita Gomez cannot save this film from utter disaster.
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on Sep 01, 2007 at 07:53 PM
But this is the most daring and provocative work by Bernal, right?
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: jdv1229 on Sep 01, 2007 at 08:00 PM
i wouldn't say daring and provocative... it was his version of a skin flick. the opening sequence where Rita Gomez was feeding her pigs was enough to say that we were going to see a filthy movie.
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Post by: keating on Sep 01, 2007 at 08:03 PM
His most exploitative work, perhaps?
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Post by: jdv1229 on Sep 01, 2007 at 08:08 PM
exploitative? maybe... Gamitin Mo Ako is a trashy bold film it's like Bernal doing an Elwood Perez or Joey Gosiengfiao movie badly...
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on Sep 01, 2007 at 08:15 PM
How bold is it? More skin exposures, graphic sex scenes?  ;D
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: jdv1229 on Sep 01, 2007 at 08:17 PM
Rita Gomez had a scene where she was breastfeeding Al Tantay... that was enough to make me throw up...
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on Sep 01, 2007 at 08:18 PM
At her age...... :o I presume this one had rough sailing with the censors except for the Manila Film Center screening.
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: jdv1229 on Sep 01, 2007 at 08:22 PM
it was butchered by the censors, thank God!
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on Sep 01, 2007 at 08:41 PM
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m132/keating_01/graduates.jpg)

Hey, it was Rated B by the Film Ratings Board. Reminds me of another Bernal flick which has a different genre and earned B rating also....THE GRADUATES.
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: jdv1229 on Sep 01, 2007 at 08:49 PM
what do they know? a B rating for Gamitin Mo Ako? i really don't undertsand why... The Graduates in my opinion deserves an A. topnotch performances from Snooky Serna, Maricel Soriano, Gina Alajar, Rey PJ Abellana, Joel Torre and Orestes Ojeda...
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on Sep 01, 2007 at 08:52 PM
Too bad this film didn't found its audience in April 1986. Even Dina and Lani were good here.
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: jdv1229 on Sep 01, 2007 at 09:03 PM
i thought Dina and Lani's performance were the weakest in this film. even Benedict Aquino was adequate here...
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on Sep 01, 2007 at 09:09 PM
I find the friendship part between the two more interesting especially their confrontations. A slice of life, and yes the ensemble cast really delivered well.

Who could imagine Uro dela Cruz writing this film before doing the gag show Bubble Gang?
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: wedge on Sep 03, 2007 at 08:30 AM
Uro wrote for Bubble Gang? Can't help but be amused at this, hehe. No pun intended.  ;D
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: jdv1229 on Sep 03, 2007 at 08:43 AM
he also wrote Peque's earlier films like Virgin Forest, Unfaithful Wife and Scorpio Nights...
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: wedge on Sep 03, 2007 at 08:47 AM
I think he had a cameo in Scorpio Nights? Or was it Abbo? (they were among the bunch blurting out The Boxer?)

Does he have any recent writing credits?
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on Sep 03, 2007 at 07:43 PM
Yep..... wedge, he's one of the brains behind BUBBLE GANG.  And wrote also ONCE UPON A TIME.

Don't be confused with his brother Abbo dela Cruz, the man who massacre some of the servants  and cut Lorli's finger in ORO PLATA MATA. In directing he use the name Rico Mambo. But hey, Abbo did the classic MISTERYO SA TUWA!
Title: Re: Ishmael Bernal
Post by: keating on Sep 03, 2007 at 07:49 PM
I think he had a cameo in Scorpio Nights? Or was it Abbo? (they were among the bunch blurting out The Boxer?)

Does he have any recent writing credits?

Abbo had a cameo in Bernal's MANILA BY NIGHT as the caretaker inside the morgue where Bernardo Bernardo and company were looking for Alma's corpse.

Not sure for Uro in SCORPIO NIGHTS probably...... but Lore Reyes was there.  ;D