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Home Theater => Displays => Flat Panels => Topic started by: krypton125 on Mar 09, 2010 at 11:27 PM
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Can't wait having an IMAX at your own home. ^_^
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Having 3D in your home TV is not similar to the IMAX experience.
IMAX is about having a larger than large scale screen like 8-storey high and 120 feet wide gigantic screen in MOA or similar IMAX theaters coupled with a Digital Surround system.
Incidentally IMAX is soon to be rivalled by now when AMC Entertainment announced it now offers a large-screen, 3D movie experience at Walt Disney World® Resort (DIS):
“AMC Theatres® [AMC]…today announces that guests will be able to see movies in a new, entirely superior fashion when the AMC Enhanced Theatre Experience [ETXTM] makes its U.S. debut on March 5 at AMC Pleasure Island 24 at Downtown Disney® Area at the Walt Disney World® Resort.
ETX includes a 20-percent larger screen, 3D technology, digital projection and an upgraded sound system. Specifically, the digital projection system produces images comprised of 2 million pixels, which delivers a higher resolution than HD. This eye-popping image is then showcased on a wall-to-wall, floor-to-ceiling screen that immerses guests in the image.
The ETX auditorium also boasts 12 audio channels fueled by 50,000 watts of power, which is a major upgrade and three times the power of typical auditoriums with six audio channels.”
source: http://seekingalpha.com/article/191850-bullish-traders-on-imax-options-run-into-bad-news?source=yahoo
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I can wait, but it would be nice to watch the World Cup in 3D - kahit sampling lang sa electronic store displays.
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Here is an article on SAMSUNG 3D TV
Samsung’s 3D TVs: Bold and Bright
Robert S. Anthony
Mar 10, 2010 12:33 pm
If you watched the Oscars on Sunday, you knew a new wave of Samsung 3D TVs were coming thanks to the commercial that aired, but you didn’t know what you’d have to pay for them. On Tuesday Samsung tore open the envelope and rolled out a raft of 3D-capable LCD, LED and plasma TVs.
At a press event at New York’s Time Warner Center, Samsung showed off its first-ever line of 3D LED TVs as well as other additions to its LED, LCD and plasma TV lineups, many of which offer built-in 3D technology. All of Samsung’s 3D TVs can be used with its new electronic shutter 3D glasses, 3D Blu-ray players and home theater systems.
As Samsung rolled out 27 LED TVs ranging from 19 to 65 inches, it showed off new technology that brings local dimming—the shutting down of pixels and backlighting in a specific area to enhance blackness—to some of its edge-lit LED TVs. Local dimming had previously been available only in sets with the LED backlight located directly behind the LCD panel, which are necessarily thicker than edge-lit units.
According to a Samsung representative, the edge-lit C8000 (65-inch, $5,000; 55-inch, $3,500) and C6800 (46-inch $2,300; 55-inch, $3,000) series TVs use a “stereo” dimming process in which LEDs at the top, bottom and sides of a dark area in an image are shut off while individual pixels are turned off as well. This is done on the fly by embedded hardware and provides a level of darkening equivalent to backlit models, the representative said. The LED-lit TV line ranges from the conventional 19-inch UN19C4000 ($380) to the 55-inch 3D capable UN55C900 ($7,000).
Also announced was Samsung’s new HDTV app store, which will offer about twenty applications for Samsung’s Internet-capable TVs by the end of this month. The early offerings will include apps for content from USA Today, Netflix, Pandora, VUDU and others.
Of course 3D TVs are of little use without 3D content and to that end Samsung made note of its expanded alliance with DreamWorks Animation, famous for its “Shrek” and “Monsters” series animated features. Samsung announced that 3D versions of the “Shrek” movies would be available for Samsung TVs later this year. DreamWorks CEO Jeffrey Katzenberg attended the press event to help drive in the point.
Samsung’s six new ultra-slim C8000 and C7000 series plasma TVs are 3D capable, ranging from the $1,800, 50-inch PN50C7000 to the $3,800 63-inch PN63C8000. Under a current promotion, plasma TV purchasers will receive a free starter kit which includes two Samsung 3D glasses, a 3D version of “Monsters vs. Aliens” from DreamWorks and either a Samsung BD-6900 3D Blu-ray player or a Samsung HT-66930 home theater system. (All plasma, LCD and LED 3D TVs come with at least the glasses and movies package.)
All of Samsung’s 3D TVs offer built-in hardware that can render 2D content into 3D. Also added to the plasma line were two units without 3D capability; the 58-inch PN58C6500 ($2,400) and the 50-inch ($1,600) PN50C6500.
The new Samsung LCD TVs run from the 19-inch LN19C350 ($280) to the 3D-capable, 46-inch LN46C750 ($1,700). Most of the smaller units will be available this month while the larger panels won’t hit stores until May.
Source: http://www.pcworld.com/article/191137/samsungs_3d_tvs_bold_and_bright.html
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Here is one article on Samsung and Sony 3D TV
WRAPUP 2-Sony, Samsung detail 3D TV plans
Tue Mar 9, 2010 2:40pm EST
By Kiyoshi Takenaka and Franklin Paul
* Sony says 46-inch 3D model to sell for about $3,875.00
* Panasonic, Samsung and other rivals also launching 3D TVs
* Sony aims to sell 25 mln LCD TVs in '10/11, up 67 pct yr/yr
* 3D TVs seen as demand catalyst for electronics makers
* Sony shares end up 1.1 pct at 17-month high in flat market (Adds analyst comments, 3D TV demand outlook, closing share price, details)
TOKYO/NEW YORK, March 9 (Reuters) - Sony and Samsung announced plans to introduce 3D televisions in coming months, betting they will become the next hot products in an increasingly crowded electronics industry.
Sony Corp (6758.T) hopes 3D models will make up 10 percent of more than 25 million LCD TVs it aims to sell in the next fiscal year. The maker of the PlayStation 3 game console also plans to release 3D game software in time for its 3D TV launch in June.
Samsung Electronics Co Ltd (005930.KS), the industry leader for flat-screen TVs, will begin U.S. sales of 46- and 55-inch 3D TVs this month, with other models coming over the next several months.
"It will likely be ardent game players who will first buy 3D TVs as an early adopter," said analyst Alex Oh of Hanwha Securities in Seoul. "In that sense, Sony, which is envisioning a comprehensive entertainment company, will take advantage of its game business, contents and movies, compared with Samsung and LG, which remain focused on hardware."
Sony is vying with LG Electronics Inc (066570.KS) for the position as the world's No. 2 flat TV maker. Many manufacturers hope the technology will be as big a boost for the industry as the transition to color TVs from black and white.
But many consumers have only just bought new high-definition TVs, and analysts say they are unwilling to spend on another upgrade any time soon, especially when viewers must wear special glasses to see images in 3D.
There is also a dearth of 3D programming. Addressing that concern, Samsung said everyone who buys one of its 2010 3D TVs and 3D Blu-ray Player or home theater system will get a kit that includes viewing glasses and a 3D version of "Monsters vs. Aliens," under a deal with DreamWorks Animation SKG Inc (DWA.O).
DreamWorks said its "Shrek" movie series would be available to Samsung 3D customers during the second half of 2010.
Last month, Samsung started offering 3D TVs in South Korea and said it would launch them globally this month, with the aim of selling at least 2 million this year.
Panasonic Corp (6752.T), the fourth-largest flat-screen TV maker, plans to introduce its 3D TVs in the United States on Wednesday. It said it would cooperate with top U.S. electronics retailer Best Buy Co (BBY.N) in promoting them. [ID:nTOE627083]
FROM THEATER TO LIVING ROOM
The science-fiction blockbuster "Avatar" and other recent films have sparked massive interest in 3D movies, and electronics makers are rushing to bring the hardware to market.
"We at Sony will liberate 3D from the confines of movie theaters and make it something that people can enjoy at home," Sony Senior Vice President Yoshihisa Ishida told a news conference on Tuesday.
Sony Chief Executive Officer Howard Stringer holds high hopes of a shift to 3D as it would probably give a boost to many of the company's operations, which include TVs, digital cameras, Blu-ray DVD players and videogames. [ID:nTOE62803C]
Sony will begin selling 3D TVs in Japan on June 10 and overseas around the same time. The electronics and entertainment conglomerate expects a model with a 46-inch screen, including two pairs of 3D glasses, to sell for 350,000 yen ($3,875), 52 percent more than its latest regular LCD TV with a comparable screen size.
Samsung's U.S. unit said its 46-inch 3D LCD model will sell for about $1,700, while a 63-inch 3D plasma TV will go for $6,800. Both will be available in May.
Following the midday announcement in Tokyo, shares of Sony extended recent gains and ended up 1.1 percent at 3,330 yen, a 17-month closing high. The benchmark Nikkei average .N225 fell 0.2 percent. Sony's U.S. shares (SNE.N) were up 1.4 percent at $37.28 in afternoon trading in New York.
Global demand for 3D TVs will probably reach 15.6 million units in 2013 from an estimated 1.2 million this year, according to research firm DisplaySearch. That figure could reach 64 million in 2018, when the research firm expects total revenues to hit $17 billion.
LCD TV shipments reached 146 million units in 2009, according to DisplaySearch. ($1 = 90.31 yen) (Additional reporting by Kim Yeon-hee in Seoul and Taiga Uranaka in Tokyo; Editing by Lisa Von Ahn, Gary Hill)
SOURCE: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTOE62803C20100309?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a49:g43:r2:c0.181818:b31635732:z0
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meron na yatang display ng 3D lcd sa abenson shangrila mall.. ;D i think LG is the brand.
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PLASMA pa rin! ;D ;D ;D Bakit walang projector na 3D?
First 3D showdown pits Samsung vs Panasonic
Both Samsung and Panasonic started selling 3DTVs with great fanfare this week, but only Consumer Reports bought both and started testing them head to head. This is hardly a full review, but initial impressions seem to confirm what we saw at CES which is that Panasonic's 3D has the edge. To be more specific "in the 3D mode, its (Panasonic's 50-inch VT-20 series) lack of crosstalk and great black levels really made three-dimensional images pop." Of course some will always prefer LCD over plasma, but the initial reviews seem to indicate that plasma's great contrast and super fast response time go a long way in delivering a great 3D experience.
http://hd.engadget.com/2010/03/13/first-3d-showdown-pits-samsung-vs-panasonic/
Overall the Samsung sets provided excellent picture detail, with satisfying colors and contrast. But we did notice some cloudiness on both the 7000-series model—which uses a conventional edge LED backlight—and the 8000-series set—the first set we’ve seen that uses an edge LED backlight with local dimming—which can be distracting when viewing dark scenes. Also, both Samsung sets exhibited a degree of “crosstalk,” or ghosted images, on 3D content, indicating that the images for each eye weren’t being kept completely separate. It wasn’t so noticeable as to be distracting on all scenes, but when visible the image echoes diminished the 3D effect. We also noticed that if you tilted the 3D glasses, such as you would if you were lying down watching the TV, the picture would increasingly get dimmer.
When viewing 3D content, the TV was absolutely free from crosstalk, with sharp, clean edges on objects in scenes. Also, the set’s virtually unlimited viewing angle with regular high-def programs held true with the 3D content we played, so even those viewing the screen from an angle could see a great picture. Also, there was no change in the picture if the 3D glasses were tilted sideways, unlike the LCD sets.
So what’s our initial reaction to these sets? All the tested sets can produce compelling, realistic three-dimensional images that can duplicate the excitement you’d get in a movie theater. But based on our preliminary tests, we give the Panasonic the edge. In the 3D mode, its lack of crosstalk and great black levels really made three-dimensional images pop. It also didn’t have any issues with backlight cloudiness, and offered a very wide viewing angle. But remember that we haven’t completed our final tests, and haven’t seen enough 3D sets to make any judgments about whether plasma or LCD is inherently a better technology for displaying 3D. But we can’t wait to get more sets into our TV Lab.
http://blogs.consumerreports.org/electronics/2010/03/3d-tv-3dtv-comparison-test-reviews-labs-bluray-3d-content-3d-glasses-crosstalk-three-d.html
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I got to see the 3D TV in display at Abenson Shangrila.
I was a skeptic, now I am a believer. Still, I don't think it's practical in home settings.
No price yet. But I think it will be sold for roughly php250,000
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I got to see the 3D TV in display at Abenson Shangrila.
I was a skeptic, now I am a believer. Still, I don't think it's practical in home settings.
No price yet. But I think it will be sold for roughly php250,000
Yeah, plus they only come with 2 glasses. And extra pairs are pretty expensive.
Might be best to wait a few years, maybe by then you won't need the glasses any longer.
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Here are some informations you need to know about 3D.
Informations from Abt Chicago http://www.abt.com/about/3Dtv.php3
What is 3D TV?
3D or stereoscopic imaging is a technique capable of recording three dimensional images, which gives the illusion of image depth. When discussing 3D TV technology, it encompasses TV programming, movies, or games. Currently most TVs and HDTVs broadcast 2D images or show only height and width.
How Does 3D Work?
To see a three dimensional or stereoscopic image, two images have to be displayed at the same time. Stereopsis is the process which allows our individual eyes to see depth in an image. One of the images is projected for the viewer’s right eye and the other image for the left. When the two images are displayed they are layered one on top of the other; one is slightly to the right and one is slightly to the left. When looking at the images without the assistance of 3D glasses, the image will appear blurry. When wearing 3D glasses, the images blend together and give the illusion of depth as well as the image’s height and width.
3D Glasses
Until recently, 3D glasses were plastic with one red lens and one blue. Those were used for the more archaic anaglyph 3D movies. When worn, the different colored lenses created two false-colored images. The images were discolored because of the two colored lenses and the resulting image on the screen was low-resolution. Improvements have been made on the technology; consequently the new 3D movies, TV broadcasts, and games can be viewed in 1080p, full 3D HD.
Active liquid crystal shutter glasses replace older tinted glasses to give a 1080p, full 3D image. New shutter glasses alternate blocking each eye up to 120 times per second, like opening and closing your eyelids one side at a time, but it’s not humanly possible to do without the aid of the glasses. They link to the TV by an infrared Bluetooth signal and use rechargeable batteries.
Frequently Asked Questions:
Do I need to buy a 3D TV to watch 3D programming, movies, or play games?
Can everyone see 3D?
Will I get a headache?
Do I have to wear the 3D glasses?
What equipment will I need to buy in addition to a 3D TV?
Is a 3D Movie in the Theater the Same as a 3D Movie at Home?
Q: Do I need to buy a 3D TV to watch 3D programming, movies, or play games?
A: Yes. Currently none of the traditional standard or high-definition TVs on the market can be upgraded to support the new 3D technology. You will need to buy a TV specifically made for viewing 3D TV broadcasts, movies, or playing games. There are a few 3D-compatible DLP and Plasma TVs which have been recently released by Samsung. There is no confirmation by Samsung as to whether they will be compatible with other manufacturer’s 3D sources, like 3D Blu-ray players. Mitsubishi also has a 3D adaptor box available sometime in 2010, which will be compatible with sources like Blu-ray players. The image quality post 3D upgrade is in question.
Q: Can everyone see 3D?
A: No. According to the College of Optometrists, approximately 5-10% of the population has stereo blindness. That segment of the population can’t see 3D images. If you have stereo blindness you can still watch 3D programming, unfortunately, it will only be perceived in 2D. If you have stereo blindness and watch 3D you may experience headaches and/or your eyes could feel tired.
Q: Will I get a headache?
A: Most people will not get headaches or eyestrain from watching 3D programming. 3D programming can cause headaches or strain after extended periods of watching. You eyes could feel tired.
Q: Do I Have to Wear the 3D Glasses?
A: Yes. If you watch without the glasses then you will see a blurry, unwatchable image. All who watch 3D must wear the 3D eyewear.
Q: What equipment will I need to buy in addition to a 3D TV?
A: For watching TV, a pair of active liquid crystal shutter glasses will be needed. Also, if you would like to watch Blu-ray movies, you will need to purchase 3D compatible equipment. A standard Blu-ray player will not play 3D Blu-rays. You will need a 3D Blu-ray player to se 3D images.The stand alone exception is Sony’s Playstation 3. By the end of 2010 Sony will release a firmware upgrade allowing users to play 3D Blu-ray discs and games in 3D.
Q: Is a 3D Movie in the Theater the Same as a 3D Movie at Home?
A: The technology is similar with two major differences, the size of the screen projecting the images and the glasses. In the theater the images are very large and don’t require the same active liquid crystal shutter glasses that you need in a home setting. It’s necessary to sit closer to the TV than you would to a screen in a theater.
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This 3D topic made it more simple for me to understand 3D tech.
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/HD_Advisor/Joshua_Zyber/HD_Advisor_Fifty_3-D/4512 (http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/HD_Advisor/Joshua_Zyber/HD_Advisor_Fifty_3-D/4512)
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This 3D topic made it more simple for me to understand 3D tech.
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/HD_Advisor/Joshua_Zyber/HD_Advisor_Fifty_3-D/4512 (http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/HD_Advisor/Joshua_Zyber/HD_Advisor_Fifty_3-D/4512)
Thank you for the link. Very informative. ;D
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Sa Glorieta (center) may Lg station duon. Ang ganda ng 3d TV nila. WOW talaga!! to see is to believe
Nakademo sila ngayon.
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We saw it on display in Singapore last week,
honestly, I am not impressed with it,... Medyo nakakahilo ang dating sa akin...
But that just me...
ABC
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can you really watch an entire night of tv in 3d? Sa imax nga sumasakit na ulo ko with just halfway through the movie in 3d. 3d is fun but only in moderation.
im perfectly happy with the plasma i have.
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Can 3-D movies, television make you sick?
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/04/23/3d.vision.brain/index.html?hpt=Sbin
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Can 3-D movies, television make you sick?
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/04/23/3d.vision.brain/index.html?hpt=Sbin
It can even KILL you! http://www.betanews.com/article/Warning-3D-TV-can-kill-you/1272032536
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History of 3D Movie tech
http://gear.ign.com/articles/108/1085907p1.html (http://gear.ign.com/articles/108/1085907p1.html)
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History of 3D Movie tech
http://gear.ign.com/articles/108/1085907p1.html (http://gear.ign.com/articles/108/1085907p1.html)
thank you ser for this info :)
naalala ko tuloy yung first time 3D experience ko nung grade 3
i remember a short 3D sequence in nightmare on elm street
balak ko panoorin in full 3d yung new installment of this film
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Sa Glorieta (center) may Lg station duon. Ang ganda ng 3d TV nila. WOW talaga!! to see is to believe
Nakademo sila ngayon.
Tried it kanina and they were just using ordinary polarized 3 d glasses but the viewing experience is awesome per my experience, parang Imax hehe. The future of 3D TV, gaming and internet surfing is exciting. Hope the technology gets cheaper soon too!
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Technology is coming way too fast. I do not want to be ready for this as of now. Aysuin nila muna kinks ng what is commercially available ngayon bago sila gumawa ng bago.
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Tried it kanina and they were just using ordinary polarized 3 d glasses but the viewing experience is awesome per my experience, parang Imax hehe. The future of 3D TV, gaming and internet surfing is exciting. Hope the technology gets cheaper soon too!
I tried it as well sa SM the Block a week ago, nakakabilib, however i have some concerns (based on my eyes):
1. Kelangan may specific distance ka from the TV or else, it would be futile
2. Di maganda pag less than 46 in -- I saw in the newspaper earlier, a 40in Samsung 3D TV + Blu ray @ 169k
3. When I asked the SA what's the version of HDMI, it's still 1.3 (although I know that at its bandwidth, it can transmit 3D Signals)
I agree na sana mag-mura yun technology na ito in the soonest possible way :)
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+1 and soonest possible time :)
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anyone have an idea how much samsung's 3d tv would cost? I'm thinking of buying a samsung LED around this week or wait for the samsung 3d tv
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anyone have an idea how much samsung's 3d tv would cost? I'm thinking of buying a samsung LED around this week or wait for the samsung 3d tv
2. Di maganda pag less than 46 in -- I saw in the newspaper earlier, a 40in Samsung 3D TV + Blu ray @ 169k
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nagsearch din ako ngayon, avant's pre-selling 40 in 3d led @ 169k 46 in @ 199k, pero iniisip ko kasi kung magkano kapag yung mga 3d lcd tv lang, kung malaki price difference nya sa 3d led. btw i also found this 3d plasma
samsung 42" HD Ready Plasma TV3D image display technology
FilterBright astounding images in any light
1,000,000:1 Dynamic Contrast Ratio – deeper darks and brighter lights
Natural True Color – 18 bit color processing
Price : SRP 75,900
http://www.samsung.com/ph/consumer/detail/productPreviewRead.do?model_cd=PS42A450P1XXP&group=tv-audio-video&type=tv&subtype=plasma-tv&subsubtype=
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Better check if that particular model has a built-in IR emitter, it looks like it doesn't have one thats why its cheap. You also need a 3d driver and 3D shutter glasses from DDD, iZ3D or NVIDIA 3d Vision to make it work one way possible is to build a 3d ready htpc.
Thats what we consumers get as long as they dont set a standard for 3d glasses, TV makers will not stop capitalizing on their expensive 3d bundles. Pati 3d movies pinag-aagawan para gawin exclusive lang sa tvs nila. ;D
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nagsearch din ako ngayon, avant's pre-selling 40 in 3d led @ 169k 46 in @ 199k, pero iniisip ko kasi kung magkano kapag yung mga 3d lcd tv lang, kung malaki price difference nya sa 3d led. btw i also found this 3d plasma
samsung 42" HD Ready Plasma TV3D image display technology
FilterBright astounding images in any light
1,000,000:1 Dynamic Contrast Ratio – deeper darks and brighter lights
Natural True Color – 18 bit color processing
Price : SRP 75,900
http://www.samsung.com/ph/consumer/detail/productPreviewRead.do?model_cd=PS42A450P1XXP&group=tv-audio-video&type=tv&subtype=plasma-tv&subsubtype=
I guess this TV is an old model...i found this CNET article dated May 7 2008:
http://www.cnet.com.au/samsung-ps42a450p1-339288719.htm
I might be wrong though :)
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I saw at Listening In Style (Shang) yesterday a 55" Samsung 3DTV selling for 199k. I am not just sure though if it's only the TV or with the whole package (i.e., 3D Blu Ray Player + 2 pairs of 3D Glasses)
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is it still a good time to buy lcd tv today? baka kasi next yr time.. 3dtv na lahat and mura na.. hehe
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I saw the demo of 40" Sony 3D tv in Park Square in Makati yesterday sa Sony Store. It was really nice, when I first put on the 3D glass, I notice na parang may flicker yung tv, I ask the salesman, why is there a flicker, sabi nung salesman, kasi daw maliwanag ang environment mas maganda daw if the surroundings are dark. I don't know if this is true or not, pero nawala din naman ang flicker.
All I can say is that the TV is really good, the movie demo was Alice in Wonderland by Tim Burton, then pinalitan niya ng Football 2010. It was really good!!!! at napakalinaw. The salesman said that they are going to introduce the TV this coming July daw. Wala pa daw sila price, kaya di niya alam ang pricing.
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I saw the demo of 40" Sony 3D tv in Park Square in Makati yesterday sa Sony Store. It was really nice, when I first put on the 3D glass, I notice na parang may flicker yung tv, I ask the salesman, why is there a flicker, sabi nung salesman, kasi daw maliwanag ang environment mas maganda daw if the surroundings are dark. I don't know if this is true or not, pero nawala din naman ang flicker.
The flicker is due to the synching of the glass with the transmitter, or, mahina battery ng glass. ;)
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magkakaroon din kaya ng 3d entry level lcd tvs?
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Oh, so thats why there's a Flicker!!!! Thanks Sir Clondalkin!!! ;)
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magkakaroon din kaya ng 3d entry level lcd tvs?
Good question for us budget concious folks. kaso, i'd recommend waiting for at least another year para di naman tayo bumili ng bare features lang dahil gusto natin magtipid. more or less, prices will go down as long as competiton arises kaya patience ang tinuturo ko sa sarili ko. :) after 2 years, i bet 50 inch 3d displays will play along the 70k to 80k price tag.
saw the Killzone 3 (3d) demo, and it is an immersive game! it will be released next year pa kaya the better to hold off muna in buying 3d displays at this time because developer's (imo) are still getting this 3d thing right or perfect for the market.
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reminds me of Nintendo Virtual Boy...EPIC FAIL!
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ill make a bold prediction now... my crystal ball says.. 3dtv wont be embraced unlike the transition from sdtv to hdtv.. the 3d feature add on alone is not worth the price of the upgrade. right now, manufacturers are just milking early adaptors and hyping it up.. but eventually, 3d will either flop, or if they dont want it to flop, it will be integrated in all hdtv models (built in feature). the price bump alone will turn off most consumer, and most are satisfied with their non 3d hdtv anyways. i think 3dtv technology feature is not that big to drool upon on.
bold prediction:
a. most manufacturers will make 3d a built in add-on feature (with minimal price difference)
b. third party 3d hardware boxes will be available (if somebody manufactures this, they will be king), for normal hdtv to be 3d compliant.
and if 3dtv wont pickup.. manufacturers will redraw their options and come out with:
a 3dtv that doesnt need 3d glasses.... now this might warrant the transition from hdtv to 3dtv.
its is possible.. nintendo just did it with their 3ds handheld system..
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ill make a bold prediction now... my crystal ball says.. 3dtv wont be embraced unlike the transition from sdtv to hdtv..
I saw the first commercial Sony Plasma HDTV sometime in 1992 worth millions of Japanese Yen. HDTV didnt become mainstream until the latter half of the last decade mainly due to lack of content (1992 was still VHS era, 1997 was DVD) and steep pricing. That was more than a dozen years. Sometime in early 2000, Japanese were saying they would buy an HDTV if the price per inch went down to 10,000 yen (or 500,000 Yen -$5,000 for a 50V).
On the contrary, 3D HDTV started at a reachable price level (roughly 20% premium over the top of the line non-3D HDTVs, and special mention to Sony for offering a 40V version) and at about the same time as the release of blockbuster 3D movies, not to mention the 3D broadcast of big events, and also the start of 3D broadcast of network giants (NHK in particular). I dont think it would take as long a period as that of HDTV for 3D HDTV to become mainstream provided the contents become available in the household - and it is proven in the long run that extended 3D watching at home is not a serious health hazard.
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Anyone seen the demostration of Panasonic 3DTV? Any stores? Also will a 3D bluray ripped to 720P mkv work like one on a 3DTV?
3D TV: The future here and now
THE Philippine market has not even fully migrated to LCD televisions - as a great number of Filipinos still use cathode ray tube televisions or CRT TVs - and already, here comes the next generation of televisions, courtesy of Panasonic.
Panasonic recently launched in its latest TV lineup, with the Viera full high definition 3D TVs and a complete 3D theater system taking center stage.
The Panasonic full HD 3D TV promises to deliver the exact power and realism seen in 3D cinemas to viewers’ homes.
“It uses the frame sequential technology that enables full HD quality image information to reach both left and right eyes,” company officials say.
Panasonic claims this technology is better than the two other typical 3D technologies--the line-by-line and checkered sampling methods.
With frame sequential technology, separate 3D images for the left and right eyes are alternately played back at a high speed of 60 frames per second for a total of 120 frames.
But to fully enjoy the Panasonic 3D experience, special eyewear also from Panasonic should be worn.
The Panasonic full HD Plasma 3D television comes in display sizes of 50 inches and 65 inches.
It boasts of quality image with its infinite black pro feature and a dynamic contrast of 5,000,000:1 ; 600Hz sub-field drive; moving picture resolution 1080 lines; THX certified display; a 24p smooth film and resolution enhance.
Not only is high image quality ensured, the complete new TV lineup also promises high performance in terms of connectivity, eco features and design.
For one, the new lineup furthers the shift of the TV technology from “units that people watch to TVs that people use.”
It has Viera cast with Skype, DLNA, Viera image viewer for photos and videos, the Viera link, USB terminals for wireless LAN adaptor and USB keyboard, Viera tools, game mode and PC input.
It is more environment-friendly and energy efficient with its mercury- and lead-free panel, long panel life of up to 100,000 hours and its eco mode.
Panasonic promises at least 35-percent savings in energy consumption with the new models.
The new line up is composed of 17 new TV models under the V, U, A and X for the Plasma TVs and the D, U, A, X and C series for the LCD.
Panasonic officials said they have yet to come up with the suggested retail price for the 3D television for the local market but in the United States, the 50-inch TC-P50VT20 plasma set was retailed for $2499 or $2890 for units in a package with a Blu-ray player and a pair of 3D glasses.
A Panasonic 3D TV comes with one free special eyewear. An extra one will cost P6,000 each.
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tcl daw po 3d tv and hindi na kelangan ng glasses.. hehe 20t$
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If you guys have read the review of "Cloudy w/ a Chance of Meatballs 3D", you can see that 3D does have promise. and I for one am very excited to experience it at home w/ my family.
Although, I would also agree with the reviewer's statement regarding screen size.
"Otherwise, the only other drawback to the Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs home Blu-ray 3D experience came in the form of screen size; even at an honest 50" and with the picture's scope aspect ratio, the action seemed a bit small and cramped; the bigger the screen, it would seem, the better the full HD 3D experience."
In that sense, setting up a 3D PJ would be more bang for the buck rather than a standard 50" flat.
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3dtv wont be embraced unlike the transition from sdtv to hdtv
+1
a) glasses are required
b) you wont notice the 3D effect in the midst of the movie
c) very steep price.
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I echo this guy's comments;
The Movie Studios' Big 3D Scam (http://gizmodo.com/5493832/the-movie-studios-big-3d-scam)
I couldn't wait to take off the glasses.
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The key to getting consumers adopting Hi Def technology is "Realism". Realism in the form of Hi Res/HD video and lossless audio. What's next? Adopting 3D makes the most sense rather than raising the full HD bar a notch higher and calling it something like - "Ultimate HD".
Of course everyone wants 3D realism achieved in Cameron's "Avatar" - that's why it's the highest grossing film of all time. It's something different, and ticket sales show that there's a market for it.
I would agree that it's best they take out the glasses in the equation.
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Prices of 3D HDTVs are getting cheaper accdg. to:
http://www.televisionbroadcast.com/article/102200 (http://www.televisionbroadcast.com/article/102200)
hope they fall further once 3D movies, 3D console games flood the market.
For now, I will have to pass my judgement whether 3D TVs will fail or succeed cos basically there is no content yet. It is too early, I don;t think seeing just a couple of 3D demos will warrant anything.
But for a start I think stereo 3D in general is doing well. It started too fast in a matter of 5 mos. after the movie Avatar was launched 3D HDTVs, 3D broadcasting, 3D cameras, 3D-ready laptops and A/V receivers, 3D projectors, 3D blu-ray players are already in the market, PS3 3D games and Blu-ray 3D movies are here, not to mention that PC games are all 3D ready. Xbox360, Nintendo 3DS & 3D celfones will follow soon. Those industries are serious about 3D but w/o fixing some problems fast . . . it will be hard to convince the masses.
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Guys, just a question.
I have a 62 inch DLP TV at home with a PS3 console that is used for Blru ray movies as well. I bought a Monsters vs Aliens movie with 3D short movie and I was able to experience a 3D movie.
Now the question is, if I can do that now at home, why would I buy a 3D TV? Should the experience be better? Or would I be able to play non-3D movies to be 3D movies because of the TV?
Thanks Guys. Pardon this kind of question.
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Guys, just a question.
I have a 62 inch DLP TV at home with a PS3 console that is used for Blru ray movies as well. I bought a Monsters vs Aliens movie with 3D short movie and I was able to experience a 3D movie.
Now the question is, if I can do that now at home, why would I buy a 3D TV? Should the experience be better? Or would I be able to play non-3D movies to be 3D movies because of the TV?
Thanks Guys. Pardon this kind of question.
sir, you monsters vs aliens3d experience was with a red/blue glass?
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There are lots of 3D trailers 1080p (alice in woderland, cloudy, shrek, toy story, etc) & 3D demos 720p & 1080p (sony, panasonic, samsung) mkv, ts, avi etc out there in the net. Free for download.
As long as the file is stereoscopic sidebyside or top & bottom, The 3D effect will work.
It works on my 3D samsung. :)
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Guys, just a question.
I have a 62 inch DLP TV at home with a PS3 console that is used for Blru ray movies as well. I bought a Monsters vs Aliens movie with 3D short movie and I was able to experience a 3D movie.
Now the question is, if I can do that now at home, why would I buy a 3D TV? Should the experience be better? Or would I be able to play non-3D movies to be 3D movies because of the TV?
Thanks Guys. Pardon this kind of question.
That short film yata is Bobs big break, its an anaglyph 3D sir if its from the MvsA blu-ray w/c comes w/ free paper glasses. The new format of 3D is sometimes called stereoscopic 3D, S-3D, 3D blu-ray or active shutter 3D hence, the use of powered/battery-operated shutter glasses.
You will notice the difference w/ regards to depth & color quality these new 3d tvs offer once you get to see one. Pale and messed up ang colors ng anaglyph 3D. Plus, the fact that the colored glasses add a tinge to the overall color of the movie ruins the whole experience. I saw a demo of Panasonic & Samsung 3D TVs last month in Anson's Makati tho' I'm not sure if its still there.
Link to Monsters vs. Aliens 3D Blu-ray review, its like comparing vhs to blu-ray daw:
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/3617/monstersaliens3d.html (http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/3617/monstersaliens3d.html)
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There are lots of 3D trailers 1080p (alice in woderland, cloudy, shrek, toy story, etc) & 3D demos 720p & 1080p (sony, panasonic, samsung) mkv, ts, avi etc out there in the net. Free for download.
As long as the file is stereoscopic sidebyside or top & bottom, The 3D effect will work.
It works on my 3D samsung. :)
http://3dvisionvideos.blogspot.com/
http://3dvision-blog.com/category/3d-movies/
http://www.biohemmet.se/
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thinking heavily if i should get a 3dtv sammy 55 series 9....
factors to get:
1. ps3 is 3d enabled = 3d movies and most of all 3d GAMES!
2. falling price of 3dtv
3. hype ;D
then it dawned on me..
my setup is the ff.
ps3> avr> tv
so:
1. i need to get a 3d ready avr
2. i need to get some hdmi 1.4 switches/hub
3. i also need to upgrade my pj to 3d soon (for movies)
4. i need to get hdmi 1.4 cables for all (tama ba>)
5. i need to get more 3d glasses.
so bottom line.. i have to get a 3d compliant AVR... mukhang yan ang magiging deal breaker for me. :(
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Got to experience 3d in the sony showroom in festival mall. Maganda sya, but parang kakduling at first but 20 mins into watching, gumaganda na sya. probably nag aadjust yung utak ko based sa optical inputs sa brain ko ;D. I wonder how "ehem ehem" movies would look like in 3d ;D ;D
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Got to experience 3d in the sony showroom in festival mall. Maganda sya, but parang kakduling at first but 20 mins into watching, gumaganda na sya. probably nag aadjust yung utak ko based sa optical inputs sa brain ko ;D. I wonder how "ehem ehem" movies would look like in 3d ;D ;D
Baka matutusokan ka ng bird coming out of the screen!
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thinking heavily if i should get a 3dtv sammy 55 series 9....
factors to get:
1. ps3 is 3d enabled = 3d movies and most of all 3d GAMES!
2. falling price of 3dtv
3. hype
then it dawned on me..
my setup is the ff.
ps3> avr> tv
so:
1. i need to get a 3d ready avr
2. i need to get some hdmi 1.4 switches/hub
3. i also need to upgrade my pj to 3d soon (for movies)
4. i need to get hdmi 1.4 cables for all (tama ba>)
5. i need to get more 3d glasses.
so bottom line.. i have to get a 3d compliant AVR... mukhang yan ang magiging deal breaker for me.
3d compliant a/vr is not a must if you want to use the 3d feature of the PS3.
For video, we can still use hdmi 1.3 to connect directly to 3d TV. And for audio, we can go back using the optical out of our non-hdmi 1.4 a/vr to get DD or DTS. Dolby True HD and DTS-HD are disabled in firmware 3.50 when using Blu-ray 3D movies. That is, if you want to save up some more fr. buying a new a/vr.
So, it turns out we don't really need an hdmi 1.4 connection to playback a Full HD 3D. And with Ps3 and fw 3.5 around, we only need a 3D hdtv w/ a pair of shutter glasses to play Gran Turismo 5 3D this Nov.
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3d compliant a/vr is not a must if you want to use the 3d feature of the PS3.
For video, we can still use hdmi 1.3 to connect directly to 3d TV. And for audio, we can go back using the optical out of our non-hdmi 1.4 a/vr to get DD or DTS. Dolby True HD and DTS-HD are disabled in firmware 3.50 when using Blu-ray 3D movies. That is, if you want to save up some more fr. buying a new a/vr.
So, it turns out we don't really need an hdmi 1.4 connection to playback a Full HD 3D. And with Ps3 and fw 3.5 around, we only need a 3D hdtv w/ a pair of shutter glasses to play Gran Turismo 5 3D this Nov.
thanks boss luth..
ahhh... so for example i wanted to play ps3d games, current setup will work parin?
ps3> avr > 3dtv? using current 1.3hdmi tama?
but to have the whole shebang this is highly recommended diba?
ps3> 3davr >3dtv with 1.4 cables?
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;D Ikaw nga boss ko dyan eh, idol pa.
Correct ps3> 3davr >3dtv with 1.4 cables ang mas recommended.
Pero Ps3> 3d tv (hdmi 1.3 for video) with Ps3> non-3d a/vr (optical for audio) should also work. Hindi kaya ng hdmi 1.3 ang bandwidth ng 1080p 3d games so, they will be downscaled to 720p to keep up w/ the 60fps per eye.
On the side, Samsung has released an affordable sub-$1000 3d plasma tv suited for the gamers out there and its a 50 incher w/ 2 free 3d glasses.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/15/samsung-adds-two-free-pairs-of-glasses-to-sub-1-000-3dtv-packag/ (http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/15/samsung-adds-two-free-pairs-of-glasses-to-sub-1-000-3dtv-packag/)
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/09/samsungpn50c490freeglassespromo.jpg)
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;D Ikaw nga boss ko dyan eh, idol pa.
Correct ps3> 3davr >3dtv with 1.4 cables ang mas recommended.
Pero Ps3> 3d tv (hdmi 1.3 for video) with Ps3> non-3d a/vr (optical for audio) should also work. Hindi kaya ng hdmi 1.3 ang bandwidth ng 1080p 3d games so, they will be downscaled to 720p to keep up w/ the 60fps per eye.
On the side, Samsung has released an affordable sub-$1000 3d plasma tv suited for the gamers out there and its a 50 incher w/ 2 free 3d glasses.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/15/samsung-adds-two-free-pairs-of-glasses-to-sub-1-000-3dtv-packag/ (http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/15/samsung-adds-two-free-pairs-of-glasses-to-sub-1-000-3dtv-packag/)
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/09/samsungpn50c490freeglassespromo.jpg)
ayun ang problema ko.. nasa likuran kasi ang avr ko and ps3 e.. ayaw ng clutter sa unahan, so talagang dadaan at dadaan sa avr ang hdmi..
oh well... delay nalang uli once 3d avr becomes affordable and hdmi 1.4 ay dumami at kelangan ko rin pala ng hdmi 1.4 hubs...
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just got our manila bulletin today.. guess what.. its in 3D... hehe
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Pati sa isang local magazine nagkaroon din. ;D
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mga sir meron po kayo idea kung magkano dito satin itong LG 55LX9500 3d LED HDTV? thanks!
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Pati sa isang local magazine nagkaroon din. ;D
FHM?:) pati manila bulletin!:)
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Mejo matatagalan pa dumami ang 3D content para sa HDTV.
And even if dumami na ang 3D Content, madami 3D films is not for everyone.
I used to always choose to watch a 3D movie over non-3D until I found out na not all movies are good in 3D. Nasasayang lang ang experience kse mukang maganda naman yung movie yun nga lang nasira ang experience ko sa IMAX or sa Promenade 3D kse na atat na akong tanggalin yung goggles.
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FYI, LiS Shang sells 1.5m Auteer HDMI cables with are v1.4 for Php950. Got mine for free when I bought my Samsung UA46C7000.
ayun ang problema ko.. nasa likuran kasi ang avr ko and ps3 e.. ayaw ng clutter sa unahan, so talagang dadaan at dadaan sa avr ang hdmi..
oh well... delay nalang uli once 3d avr becomes affordable and hdmi 1.4 ay dumami at kelangan ko rin pala ng hdmi 1.4 hubs...
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mga sir meron po kayo idea kung magkano dito satin itong LG 55LX9500 3d LED HDTV? thanks!
Php269,990 is the SRP. You can probably get it for much much less if you canvass and negotiate.
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ang sa alam ko benta ng sns sa samsung nila na led 55" is just around or below 150t.. and may 3d bluray na yun and 3d surround with 3d glasses.... local warranty
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ang sa alam ko benta ng sns sa samsung nila na led 55" is just around or below 150t.. and may 3d bluray na yun and 3d surround with 3d glasses.... local warranty
True, that's the Samsung UN46C7000 bundle.
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Sayang sa oras pagusapan ang 3D HDTV. Bukod sa abnormal ang pagka mahal, walang content (or sobrang konti kung meron man)..
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na audition ko yun 3d led tv ng panasonic, 65 inches sa gadgets and style .grabe ang gandaaaaaaaaaa :o :o :o
ang ganda din ng price , Php355,000 ;D ;D ;D