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Home Theater => Sources => NMTs => Topic started by: reynold on Sep 08, 2010 at 05:08 PM
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Good Day fellow members,
I need some inputs/advice from you guys re my weird problem. Hindi ko talaga mahuli kung ano ang problem e...
Here's my equipment:
Panasonic 42PV80
Yamaha DSP-A1
Sony and Wharfdale Speakers
Mede8er with bnew internal hard disk (320gig Seagate)
Here's the problem...
Crackling Sounds (nanginginig or garalgal) during .m2ts playback only...
Other files like mkv, mp3, m4a, etc... OK naman.
Here's what i did to isolate the problem... (testing same files)
1. Changed the Optical cable with other optical cable ganun pa din.
2. Changed the optical cable with 2 diff coax, ganun pa din... so wala sa mga cables ang problem kasi ok naman pag ibang files... i doubt sa receiver or speakers ang sira kasi ok din naman ang ibang files...
3. I called eHome, they asked me to bring my mede8er (that time, v2.1.1 ang fw version nya) kasi baka yung unit ang may problem (maybe board, maybe FW...)
4. So they told me na i-try namin palitan ng board yung mede8er, so pinalitan nila, waited for almost 10 minutes then after that we did some testing... Nawala ang garalgal, umayos... so sabi nila board nga siguro, pero eto ang weird... Since umayos na yung audio playback, yun na lang daw ang gamitin ko pero policy ng company na i-test muna daw yung ni-replace na board, so binalik ulit nila yung board at ng tinest namin, ayus pa din ang audio playback at walang garalgal, ilang beses ko pinaulit-ulit na test pero ok talaga... and since wala naman pala problem yung dating board, pinabalik ko na lang ulit and then test na naman... Ok pa rin... Weird...
5. Baka Firmware naman, so pina-upgrade ko na ang FW sa kanila to v 3.0.4 then test ulit, so far so good... so sabi ko, test ko na lang ulit sa bahay yung unit para makita ko ang effect ng bagong FW...
6. Sa Bahay... Setup... Test... and then tadddaaaammmm!!!! ganun pa din ang audio, garalgal na naman >:(
Hindi Cable... Hindi rin Receiver or Speakers... at lalong hindi din Mede8er ang problem kasi ok nung nakasalang sa setup sa eHome e, hindi rin file kasi ok din ang test nya pagdating sa shop... Ano kaya ang problem ???
Baka meron kayong same issue na ganito kahit ibang brand ng nmt, share nyo naman dito sa thread na 'to, especially mga solutions na ginawa ninyo...
Thanks,
Reynold :)
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Hindi Cable... Hindi rin Receiver or Speakers... at lalong hindi din Mede8er ang problem kasi ok nung nakasalang sa setup sa eHome e, hindi rin file kasi ok din ang test nya pagdating sa shop... Ano kaya ang problem ???
isa na lang ang di mo nasasabi... bahay!
yes, sa eHome ka na tumira ;D ;D ;D teka paupuin mo naman ako sa lazyboy ha ;D jk
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Matanong nga si Richie kung pwedeng tumira sa shop nya, hehehe ;D
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nung dinala mo yung mede8er sa ehome .. tinest niyo ba muna bago pinalitan yung board? ... naisip ko lang na baka okay pala talaga kaya nung pinalitan ng board ay walang garalgal ... kung sakali, maa-isolate natin kung san talaga ang may problema .. kung ang setup sa bahay o hinde ...
may mga .m2ts files din kase na may garalgal sa akin using my wdtv at my xtreamer .. akala ko nga dati sa wdtv ang problema kaya bumili ako ng xtreamer thinking na maayos .. pero nung play ko sa xtreamer ay ganun pa din .. may garalgal ... playback sa pc ay okay naman ... yung .m2ts files ay yung mga 1080p encoded for ps3 ...
judging from your setup, sa isang gamit lang tayo pareho ... sa yamaha dsp-a1 ... dun kaya ang problema ng garalgal?
i have since deleted the .m2ts files kaya di ko na matetest .. di ko rin natest kung okay ang sound ng direct sa lcd ...
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nung dinala mo yung mede8er sa ehome .. tinest niyo ba muna bago pinalitan yung board? ... naisip ko lang na baka okay pala talaga kaya nung pinalitan ng board ay walang garalgal ...
Thanks for the reply bro :)
Yes, tinest din namin yung board ng unit ko noon, ok naman at walang garalgal bro...
Here's what i have in mind, i don't know if its possible... since pareho tayo ng receiver, hindi kaya nahihirapan ang receiver natin na i-decode kung anuman ang audio format ng mga m2ts files? is it possible kaya? pag other files naman ok like mkv, mp3, etc e, dun sa m2ts lang sablay e...
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upgrade receiver na yan! ;)
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Naisip ko rin ang DSP-A1.
However, my DSP-AX1 has no problem whatsoever with pure BD rips and BD ISOs :) Ang ganda nga ng tunog kahit na DTS or DD lang ang kaya nyang palabasin from DTSHDMA or Dolby TrueHD sources respectively - pero baka yon ang "X" factor sa model number? ;)
What's the exact file? m2ts demos or full length films or concerts?
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upgrade receiver na yan! ;)
akala ko sa gallery lang may kulaman! ;D
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akala ko sa gallery lang may kulaman! ;D
ngaykzz!!! ;D
here's my story. medyo ot:
nanalo ako ng gas range nung minsang party namin, kaso wala akong mapaglagyan. ano ang nangyari? ang dating dirty kitchen pinabubunga, inayos, nilagyan ng tiles at ginawang totoong kitchen. ng dahil sa gas range yan ha ;D higit pa sa presyo ng napanalunan ang ginastos sa maliit na kitchen. after 2 years nanalo uli ako ng 2 burner stove lang worth less 1k lang ata yun, shet! walang mapaglagyan! ano ang nangyari, nagpagawa kami ng concrete stand para lang dun para 2 ang kalan. again, mas mahal pa sa napanalunan ang ginastos -- again. ???
ito ang matindi. pinabubungan namin ang suppose to be na garahe para di lumutin ang sahig at magamit na rin tuwing may handaan... ano ang nangyari next? ;D ;D ;D
now back to topic: ng dahil sa m2ts, may bagong receiver! yahooo!!!!
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Naisip ko rin ang DSP-A1.
However, my DSP-AX1 has no problem whatsoever with pure BD rips and BD ISOs :) Ang ganda nga ng tunog kahit na DTS or DD lang ang kaya nyang palabasin from DTSHDMA or Dolby TrueHD sources respectively - pero baka yon ang "X" factor sa model number? ;)
What's the exact file? m2ts demos or full length films or concerts?
It's a full-length movie sir, ang hindi ko lang alam at mahuli ay kung ano ang pinagkaiba ng audio format ng m2ts sa mkv at bakit di kinakaya ng dsp-a1 (kung yun nga talaga ang problem)...
This weekend pag-aaralan ko ang specs ng DSP-A1 (lalo na yung chipset na gamit nya kung ano ang audio na supported nya), sana nga maintindihan ko, hehehe ;D
ngaykzz!!! ;D
here's my story. medyo ot:
nanalo ako ng gas range nung minsang party namin, kaso wala akong mapaglagyan. ano ang nangyari? ang dating dirty kitchen pinabubunga, inayos, nilagyan ng tiles at ginawang totoong kitchen. ng dahil sa gas range yan ha ;D higit pa sa presyo ng napanalunan ang ginastos sa maliit na kitchen. after 2 years nanalo uli ako ng 2 burner stove lang worth less 1k lang ata yun, shet! walang mapaglagyan! ano ang nangyari, nagpagawa kami ng concrete stand para lang dun para 2 ang kalan. again, mas mahal pa sa napanalunan ang ginastos -- again. ???
ito ang matindi. pinabubungan namin ang suppose to be na garahe para di lumutin ang sahig at magamit na rin tuwing may handaan... ano ang nangyari next? ;D ;D ;D
now back to topic: ng dahil sa m2ts, may bagong receiver! yahooo!!!!
Nakupo, ikaw pala ang malakas mangkulam e, hehehe ;D ;D ;D
Magkano na ba ang receiver ngayon? Ano kaya mga pwede kong ibenta?? mailista nga this weekend :)
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sir reynold, puwede na pong palitan ang title... "looking for AVR replacement"
hehe! joke lang po...
anyway sir, have you tried playing mt2s with another NMT?
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sir reynold, puwede na pong palitan ang title... "looking for AVR replacement"
hehe! joke lang po...
anyway sir, have you tried playing mt2s with another NMT?
hahaha, Sir Jazzy Jake wala pang budget, maghahanap pa ng makukuhanan (lumang-damit palit ng bnew AVR, meron ba?) ;D ;D ;D
Yan ang hindi ko pa nagagawa, wala na kasi akong ibang nmt e... i'll ask my officemate kung may problem sa kanya yung mga m2ts files nya, sa kanya ko kasi kinopya yun e, he's using wdtv, kaso nasa meeting pa sya ngayon e :)
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Naisip ko rin ang DSP-A1.
However, my DSP-AX1 has no problem whatsoever with pure BD rips and BD ISOs :) Ang ganda nga ng tunog kahit na DTS or DD lang ang kaya nyang palabasin from DTSHDMA or Dolby TrueHD sources respectively - pero baka yon ang "X" factor sa model number? ;)
What's the exact file? m2ts demos or full length films or concerts?
Hindi kaya dahil dito?
Yamaha DSP-A1:
24-Bit Processing Dolby Digital LSI (YSS-249) and DSP LSI (YSS-214)
Yamaha AX1:
44-Bit CINEMA DSP LSIs (Yamaha Original YSS-910 x 2)
Original YSS-918 and YSS-908 LSIs
What do you think sir?
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This seemed like deja vu from another poster in the past. It was the DSP-A1 processor that was at fault. It could not process high definition audio since it was a 2003/4 model.
m2ts files are container files for BD content. Ergo, you can't decode those lossless audio content with pre-2007 gears but their DTS and DD tacks can be decoded.
But even their DD and DTS content are encoded at a higher sampling rate, so not all DD/DTS decoders can.
mkv files are ripped BD files whose audio content are mostly transcoded to lower resolution DTS or DD files so they have lower file sizes.
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This seemed like deja vu from another poster in the past. It was the DSP-A1 processor that was at fault. It could not process high definition audio since it was a 2003/4 model.
m2ts files are container files for BD content. Ergo, you can't decode those lossless audio content with pre-2007 gears but their DTS and DD tacks can be decoded
mkv files are ripped BD files whose audio content are mostly transcoded to lower resolution DTS or DD files so they have lower file sizes.
So sir Av_phile1, you are saying that this is really the reason why i am having issue on m2ts audio playback? Nakupo, wala pa akong pambili ng bagong receiver :-\
Is there a solution ba for this without buying a new receiver, like converting m2ts to mkv (w/c im not sure if there will be some quality impact on video and audio), or delete all my m2ts and replace them with mkv movies, etc.?
btw, i think DSP-A1 is a 2000 model :)
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m2ts containers can have HD Audio and standard DD/DTS audio tracks.
Kelangan himayin yung m2ts files mo using a program called mediainfo to confirm what audio tracks are inside, sometimes they could have weird sampling that causes the issue you describe. 48Khz is normal sampling for movie audio tracks. Some "junk" encodes use 44Khz sampling which the player can't decode properly.
DTS-HD audio tracks normally have a core DTS inside them. Dolby TrueHD tracks require a separate AC3 track for non HD audio receivers.
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m2ts containers can have HD Audio and standard DD/DTS audio tracks.
Kelangan himayin yung m2ts files mo using a program called mediainfo to confirm what audio tracks are inside, sometimes they could have weird sampling that causes the issue you describe. 48Khz is normal sampling for movie audio tracks. Some "junk" encodes use 44Khz sampling which the player can't decode properly.
DTS-HD audio tracks normally have a core DTS inside them. Dolby TrueHD tracks require a separate AC3 track for non HD audio receivers.
in addition to mediainfo...
ts muxer can also be used in identifying tracks inside m2ts/ts files which also describes details such as track type, sampling etc. ts muxer can convert/remux DTS-HD to DTS and Dolby TrueHD to Dobly/AC3 for non HD audio receivers.
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What's the exact filename?
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sir reynold,
sinubukan mo na bang mag cycle dun sa audio tracks nung file na pinapanood by pressing audio on the remote of mede8er mo baka sakaling pwedeng DD or DTS audio track palabasin instead na HD audio?
;)
m2ts containers can have HD Audio and standard DD/DTS audio tracks.
Kelangan himayin yung m2ts files mo using a program called mediainfo to confirm what audio tracks are inside, sometimes they could have weird sampling that causes the issue you describe. 48Khz is normal sampling for movie audio tracks. Some "junk" encodes use 44Khz sampling which the player can't decode properly.
DTS-HD audio tracks normally have a core DTS inside them. Dolby TrueHD tracks require a separate AC3 track for non HD audio receivers.
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sir reynold,
sinubukan mo na bang mag cycle dun sa audio tracks nung file na pinapanood by pressing audio on the remote of mede8er mo baka sakaling pwedeng DD or DTS audio track palabasin instead na HD audio?
;)
^^^
Usually iisa lang ang audio tracks ng mga files ko sir Gwenael, it only shows "6-Channel DOLBY Digital"... but the weird part is... some shows 6-Channel DTS pero garalgal pa din yung audio...
Sir Scifi-fan, i'll try the mediainfo and ts muxer... madali lang ba gamitin 'to? do you have a copy of these tools? Thanks :)
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...done with the downloading of mediainfo and TS Muxer mga sir, papaano ba gamitin ang TS Muxer? pwede ko ba palitan ang audio codec ng isang m2ts file using the TS Muxer? Thanks :)
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what you want to try with tsmuxer is to convert the m2ts files into either BDMV folder structures (original Bluray) or AVCHD.
Don't transcode the audio to another format until you're sure it's that causing your issues.
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...done with the downloading of mediainfo and TS Muxer mga sir, papaano ba gamitin ang TS Muxer? pwede ko ba palitan ang audio codec ng isang m2ts file using the TS Muxer? Thanks :)
yes, you may remux your m2ts file into another m2ts file with new audio codec (Dolby TrueHD to Dolby/AC3).
when you open your m2ts file you will see the tracks on it (video, audio, subtitles).
if you want to change audio coded (e.g. Dolby TrueHD to Dolby/AC3) select on that track and you will notice downgrade to Dolby/AC3 in the lower portion after the track list
you may also unselect tracks you want by deselecting (uncheck) it from the list
make sure you selected m2ts as output file and then press remux
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yes, you may remux your m2ts file into another m2ts file with new audio codec (Dolby TrueHD to Dolby/AC3).
when you open your m2ts file you will see the tracks on it (video, audio, subtitles).
if you want to change audio coded (e.g. Dolby TrueHD to Dolby/AC3) select on that track and you will notice downgrade to Dolby/AC3 in the lower portion after the track list
you may also unselect tracks you want by deselecting (uncheck) it from the list
make sure you selected m2ts as output file and then press remux
Thanks a lot sir eksi, will try it later at home :)
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Thanks a lot sir eksi, will try it later at home :)
no problem sir, glad to help :)
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may mga .mkv files din na gumagaralgal tulad nung .m2ts files .. napansin ko lang na sa tsmuxer ... nakalagay na 6 channels yung sound .. pero pag 5.1 channels ay okay naman ang playback ... diyan kaya ang problema ng yamaha dsp-a1?
natest ko din yung .mkv file sa wdtv - logitech z5500 at okay naman ang playback ... sa xtreamer - yamaha dsp-a1 lang talaga may problema kaya sa tingin ko yamaha dsp-a1 talaga ang culprit.
ano kaya magandang receiver ang ipalit sa yamaha dsp-a1? kahit sana low budget lang basta capable na ng trueHD.
thanks.
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i will stand firm on this...
"pikit-mata"
"bite the bullet"
(http://wiki.digital-digest.com/images/thumb/2/22/Dolby_TrueHD_Logo.png/180px-Dolby_TrueHD_Logo.png)
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.... yamaha dsp-a1 lang talaga may problema kaya sa tingin ko yamaha dsp-a1 talaga ang culprit.
ano kaya magandang receiver ang ipalit sa yamaha dsp-a1? kahit sana low budget lang basta capable na ng trueHD.
thanks.
Yup, sa receiver nga natin ang culprit bro, old skul kasi e, hehehe pero di ko pa rin ipagpapalit DSP-A1 ko sa iba ;)
Amigong praktikal,
wala pa kasi ako budget para sa TRUEHD na receiver kaya convert-convert na lang muna ako ng m2ts to mkv, yan ang pinaka-Praktikal na paraan sa ngayon ;D
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Wala bang NMT na may 8channel analog out? ;D
old school din kasi receiver ko pero meron syang 7.1 input.
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Amigong praktikal,
wala pa kasi ako budget para sa TRUEHD na receiver kaya convert-convert na lang muna ako ng m2ts to mkv, yan ang pinaka-Praktikal na paraan sa ngayon ;D
now, you're talking just like me :D
i owned a dsp-a1 before i upgraded to 659. ang ganda ng itsura at tunog. just wanted to experience more than this a1 can offer. 7.1 that is pero actually, 6.1 lang ang setup ko ngayon. gaano man kaganda since meron namang affordable preowned new models, so why not coconut. ;)
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may mga .mkv files din na gumagaralgal tulad nung .m2ts files .. napansin ko lang na sa tsmuxer ... nakalagay na 6 channels yung sound .. pero pag 5.1 channels ay okay naman ang playback ... diyan kaya ang problema ng yamaha dsp-a1?
natest ko din yung .mkv file sa wdtv - logitech z5500 at okay naman ang playback ... sa xtreamer - yamaha dsp-a1 lang talaga may problema kaya sa tingin ko yamaha dsp-a1 talaga ang culprit.
ano kaya magandang receiver ang ipalit sa yamaha dsp-a1? kahit sana low budget lang basta capable na ng trueHD.
thanks.
5.1 is 6 channels. The .1 is another channel.
I think it has something to do with bitrate, the older DD decoding chips can only do 448kbps as this is the standard maximum for DVD, while the new ones can do 640kbps which is the maximum standard for DD tracks in BD. If the mkv or m2ts files used this newer DD track, you may have a problem using older decoders.
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now, you're talking just like me :D
i owned a dsp-a1 before i upgraded to 659. ang ganda ng itsura at tunog. just wanted to experience more than this a1 can offer. 7.1 that is pero actually, 6.1 lang ang setup ko ngayon. gaano man kaganda since meron namang affordable preowned new models, so why not coconut. ;)
Pupunta din tayo dyan ;)
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5.1 is 6 channels. The .1 is another channel.
I think it has something to do with bitrate, the older DD decoding chips can only do 448kbps as this is the standard maximum for DVD, while the new ones can do 640kbps which is the maximum standard for DD tracks in BD. If the mkv or m2ts files used this newer DD track, you may have a problem using older decoders.
I think it's quite true, pansin ko hirap ang receiver ko kapag nasa 640kbps ang bitrate ng movie... but i'm still doing some testing, what a busy weekend :)
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Mga Bro, question po ulit...
Since wala pa akong budget for a new receiver, i have downloaded a Pavtube M2ts converter and a TSmuxer...
1. Ano pa ba pwedeng gamitin na m2ts to mkv converter aside from Pavtube? Trial version lang kasi yung na-download ko and may lumalabas na "PavTube" sa gitna ng movie while playing, nakaka-destruct sa panonood...
2. When Converting to mkv (using Pavtube), anong setup ba ang recommended? Humihina kasi ang audio once na-convert from ac3 to aac, kahit naka max na yung audio bitrate to 448000 (bps). Ano din recommended na settings sa video kasi sobrang laki ng file once na-convert to mkv, example is my 4gig Kungfu Hustle, naging 13gig sya...
3. Using TSmuxer naman... under Tracks, papaano ko papalitan yung AC3 to AAC? di kasi sya namo-modify e... and under Output naman, may mga selection dito na
a) TS Muxing
b) M2TS Muxing
c) Bluray Disk
d) AVCHD Disk
e) Demux
..... Ano ang pipiliin ko sa mga options above at ano din ang purpose ng bawat isa sa kanila?
4. Bakit naka-disable at hindi ko ma-enable yung checkbox na "Downconvert HD Audio"?
5. and last, ano ang ginagawa kapag click ko yung button na "Start Muxing"?
I hope you can help me mga sir, Thanks in advance :)
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I don't have all the answers to your question. All I can say is mkv has a smaller overhead so that it should have a smaller file size than an m2ts on a 1 to 1 conversion. Bear in mind that both m2ts and mkv are just container files independent of what video codec is used. So your conversion might have converted the content codec in the m2ts to a less efficient one inside mkv. You might have converted an H.264 codec to MPEG2. I suggest you DO NOT re-encode the video, just the audio and convert the container file.
Also, m2ts files often have more files than you need, like subtitles or foreign language files but if your m2ts file is already 4GB, if this is a 720p file, I think it's already stripped to the bare minimum. So it should result in a smaller mkv file But not by a lot, You might be able to bring it down to a few megabytes.
My understanding when you click Start Muxing is that all the audio and video files will be mixed inside your mkv file. I think you will have to demux the audio file from the m2ts container before converting it to another format, say from DD True HD to ordinary DD (AC3) from from DD to AAC. And then mux it again with the video file using the same apps.
I also don't think your TSMuxer is a file converter. You will need another software to convert the demuxed audio file into another format. Or if it has a coverting capability, it might be disabled because it's a freebie.
lastly, can't you simply download the same title in mkv?
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That's weird, my Kungfu Hustle became 13gig when i convert it from m2ts to mkv... i'll try to convert the audio track only.
Is there a good converter ba, yung cracked na? my pavtube is a trial version only so may lumalabas na pavtube while playing the movie, nakaka-destruct though maliit lang sya pero nasa gitna palagi until the end of the movie...
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what's the size of the m2ts file? if smaller than 13GB, ang liit naman yata non? If bigger than 13GB, I think tama lang na lumiit to 13GB when you compress.
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what's the size of the m2ts file? if smaller than 13GB, ang liit naman yata non? If bigger than 13GB, I think tama lang na lumiit to 13GB when you compress.
4gig lang sir Clondalkin yung m2ts file... weird...
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A 4GB full length Kung Fu Hustle in m2ts? That's even more surprising to me.
Just download the 4GB 720p version in mkv. I thought you were trying to convert something like 20GB-40GB of m2ts to mkv.
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A 4GB full length Kung Fu Hustle in m2ts? That's even more surprising to me.
Just download the 4GB 720p version in mkv. I thought you were trying to convert something like 20GB-40GB of m2ts to mkv.
Yes thats right, only a 4gig m2ts file... i just want to test if this conversion will solve my audio playback issues on some of my m2ts files... and they did :)
though humina nga lang ng mga 40 percent yung audio when converted to mkv at lumaki pa yung file :(
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Is that a 720p file?
Kung Fu Hustle can be downloaded at 4.4 GB mkv with orig Cantonese language in DTS and subtitling with the following tech detail
RELEASE.NAME..: Kung.Fu.Hustle.2004.720p.BluRay.DTS.x264-ESiR
RELEASE.DATE..: 10.04.2007
THEATRE.DATE..: 14.09.2004
RUNTiME.......: 1:39:25
SiZE..........: 4.37 GB
ViDEO.CODEC...: x264
FRAMERATE.....: 23.976
BiTRATE.......: 5535 kbps
RESOLUTiON....: 1280x536 (OAR)
AUDiO.........: Chinese (Cantonese) DTS 5.1 768 kbps
SUBTiTLES.....: Eng,Ro,Ger,Swe,Nor,Dan,Fin,Cze,Spa,Fre,Dut,Est,Scc,Scr,
Slv,Slo - all ASS
SOURCE........: Kung.Fu.Hustle.Blu-ray.REMUX.MPEG2.
1080P.DTS.LPCM.16.4G.FanxySilu
It is also downloadable as 1080p mkv file at 8 GB with the following details (apparently remuxed in Italy)
Generale
Nome completo :[BDRip 1080P ITA ENG CHI-AC3 DTS-SUB] Kung Fu Hustle-aKTiVia.mkv
Formato : Matroska
Dimensione : 8,29 GiB
Durata : 1h 35min
BitRate totale : 12,5 Mbps
Film : ~ LiFE ~
Data di codifica : UTC 2010-06-09 03:50:25
Creato con : mkvmerge v3.0.0 ('Hang up your Hang-Ups') built on Dec 12 2009 15:20:35
Compressore : libebml v0.7.9 + libmatroska v0.8.1
Copertina : Yes
Video
ID : 1
Formato : AVC
Formato/Informazioni : Advanced Video Codec
Profilo del formato : [email protected]
Impostazioni del formato, CABAC : Si
Impostazioni del formato, ReFram : 8 fotogrammi
Modalità di muxing : Container [email protected]
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Durata : 1h 35min
BitRate : 9 262 Kbps
Larghezza : 1 920 pixel
Altezza : 800 pixel
AspectRatio : 2,40:1
FrameRate : 25,000 fps
FrameRate originale : 23,976 fps
ColorSpace : YUV
ChromaSubsampling : 4:2:0
BitDepth/String : 8 bits
Tipo di scansione : Progressivo
Bit/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.241
Dimensione della traccia : 6,27 GiB (76%)
Titolo : MPEG-4/AVC, 9265 kbps
Compressore : x264 core 56 svn-667C
Impostazioni compressione : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh /
subme=7 / brdo=1 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=2 /
deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=3 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 /
b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / bime=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 /
scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=9262 / ratetol=1.0 / rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' / qcomp=0.60
/ qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:0.3:15.0
Lingua : Cinese
Audio #1
ID : 2
Formato : AC-3
Formato/Informazioni : Audio Coding 3
Format_Settings_ModeExtension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : A_AC3
Durata : 1h 35min
Modalità : Costante
BitRate : 448 Kbps
Canali : 6 canali
Posizione dei canali : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
SamplingRate : 48,0 KHz
Ritardo video : 260ms
Dimensione della traccia : 306 Mb (4%)
Lingua : Italiano
Audio #2
ID : 3
Formato : AC-3
Formato/Informazioni : Audio Coding 3
Format_Settings_ModeExtension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : A_AC3
Durata : 1h 35min
Modalità : Costante
BitRate : 640 Kbps
Canali : 6 canali
Posizione dei canali : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
SamplingRate : 48,0 KHz
Dimensione della traccia : 437 Mb (5%)
Lingua : Inglese
Just take note that the bitrate in English AC3 is 640 kbps and your Yamaha DSP A1 will not not be able to process this as it only has a maximum of 448 kbps. But the Italian language is just fine. ;D
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kung sa qc ka lang pakopyahin na lang kita ng kungfu hustle mkv. :)
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Yes sir, it is the 720p file but in m2ts format..
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kung sa qc ka lang pakopyahin na lang kita ng kungfu hustle mkv. :)
haha, pwede ba lahat ng kaya kong kopyahin? baka mapadaan ako ng qc malapit sa inyo ;)
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pwede. no problem.
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Yes sir, it is the 720p file but in m2ts format..
There are plenty of 720p Kung Fu Hustle in MKV at 4GB. Download ka na lang kesa mag-convert.
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ah eh, buti hindi pa tayo na lock? ::)
sir reynold, have you tried this, to convert your M2TS to MKV >>> MKVMERGE (http://www.recipester.org/Recipe:Merge_MKV_Files_with_mkvmerge_GUI_44399588)
it can also convert.
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haha, pwede ba lahat ng kaya kong kopyahin? baka mapadaan ako ng qc malapit sa inyo ;)
A Very Sound Solution to A Very Weird Playback Problem! :D
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A Very Sound Praktikal Solution to A Very Weird Playback Problem! :D
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hahaha, oo nga, cge last try ko na yang mkvmerge sir jazzy, pag ayaw pa, ipon na lang ako ng pambili ng receiver, upgrade... sana kayanin ;D
Sir Av_phile, di ako pwede magdownload, naka prepaid broadband lang ako e, sobrang bagal and magastos :)
Siguro pwede na i-lock ang thread na 'to, since alam ko na naman kung ano ang culprit at lahat na naman ng possible solutions sa playback problem ko ay nandito na...
... or gawin na lang kaya ang thread na 'to para sa mga may mae-encounter na weird problem sa setup ng mga members, what do you think guys? mods? :)
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basta chief, pagnagawi ka ng sta. rosa laguna,
PM mo lang ako kung gusto mo ng more movies...
;) ;) ;)
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basta chief, pagnagawi ka ng sta. rosa laguna,
PM mo lang ako kung gusto mo ng more movies...
;) ;) ;)
Sure sir, pag napunta ako sa kumpare ko dyan sa Sta. Rosa. Thanks ;)
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Reynold have you tested with pure BD rips in BDMV (m2ts streams inside) having 20GB-50GB in size?
Or, are all your m2ts files around 4GB only? (These sounds rather exotic to me, much like some mp4 in high def - which means if your answer to the question above is a "NO", I dont think the A1 is the problem).
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Reynold have you tested with pure BD rips in BDMV (m2ts streams inside) having 20GB-50GB in size?
Or, are all your m2ts files around 4GB only? (These sounds rather exotic to me, much like some mp4 in high def - which means if your answer to the question above is a "NO", I dont think the A1 is the problem).
Haven't tried big files sir wala po kasi akong m2ts files na malaki e, mostly m2ts files ranging from 4 to 6 gig in size lang... How will i know if these m2ts files of mine are mp4 in high def only?
Ano pa po ang pwede ko pang gawin para ma-isolate pa ng husto ang problems sir Clondalkin?
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Reynold have you tested with pure BD rips in BDMV (m2ts streams inside) having 20GB-50GB in size?
Or, are all your m2ts files around 4GB only? (These sounds rather exotic to me, much like some mp4 in high def - which means if your answer to the question above is a "NO", I dont think the A1 is the problem).
Reynold's m2ts file is a 720p file which was obviously down converted from the original 1080p BDAV file.
The torrent site I was looking at showed me that the source Kung fu hustle original 1080p BDAV is only about 17GB using MPEG2 video with 6-channel LPCM, and DD/DTS audio. Converting it to 720p using a more efficient H.264, AVC or MPEG4 codec will bring the video file to a third of its file size. Taking out the LPCM and DTS tracks leaving only the DD track will further reduce file size by another 1GB more or less. That should yield about 5GB. You could lower the video bitrate, frame rate and take out the subtitles and other languages so that a 4.GB file or even lower can be achieved on either mkv or m2ts.
If the retained DD track was 640kps, the DSP A1 will have difficulty decoding as earlier decoders were maxed out at 448kbps.
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Haven't tried big files sir wala po kasi akong m2ts files na malaki e, mostly m2ts files ranging from 4 to 6 gig in size lang... How will i know if these m2ts files of mine are mp4 in high def only?
Ano pa po ang pwede ko pang gawin para ma-isolate pa ng husto ang problems sir Clondalkin?
Sabi mo you dont have any problems with MKV container diba? So would that include MKVs containings DD0.64mbps or DTS1.5mbps audiostream? Karamihan ng prime encodes in MKV container eh ganito ang de facto standard ng audio. If you dont experience sound problems with MKVs containing the said audiostreams, then there must be something special contained in the 4GB m2ts. Check mo sa Mediainfo your MKVs na walang problem and lalabas agad ang details about audiostream including bitstream.
First thing that comes to my mind when I read m2ts is pure BD rip. Hence, I thought you were testing something like that. I personally have not played a full length movie in m2ts the size of 4GB only. So I suggest you visit E-Home and ask them to lend you any test pure BD rip in BDMV structure containing m2ts files, or, a BD ISO file. Any of these should contain an HD audiostream. If you can manage to output DTS core 1.5mbps from DTSHDMA, then that would make you HAPPY about your A1. hehehe.
Kung wala sa Ehome, hopefully your friendly fellow member has one. I guarantee you meron mga members in Manila na meron - but I cant name names...hehehe. Last option would be to wait until around Jan 2011 unless the wife tells me that she has a BD ISO. hehehe
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A Very Sound Praktikal Solution to A Very Weird Playback Problem!
korak! :D
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hahaha, oo nga, cge last try ko na yang mkvmerge sir jazzy, pag ayaw pa, ipon na lang ako ng pambili ng receiver, upgrade... sana kayanin ;D
Sir Av_phile, di ako pwede magdownload, naka prepaid broadband lang ako e, sobrang bagal and magastos :)
Siguro pwede na i-lock ang thread na 'to, since alam ko na naman kung ano ang culprit at lahat na naman ng possible solutions sa playback problem ko ay nandito na...
... or gawin na lang kaya ang thread na 'to para sa mga may mae-encounter na weird problem sa setup ng mga members, what do you think guys? mods? :)
pwedeng title:
"playback problem with DSP-A1"
"old receiver limitations"
or
"panahon na para mag-upgrade" ;D
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Ok mga sir, i'll do the testing with all my mkvs tonight, i'll try to borrow din a full bd rip mkv from some members (calling anchit, hehe ikaw ang pinaka-malapit sa akin e ;D)
Maganda sana yung huling title suggestion mo praktikal kung may budget na :)
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Reynold, meron sa bahay sa Pasig na BD Iso. 23GB big in m2ts container with DTSHD audiostream - (lumalabas na DTS sa Yamaha 757 using the Mede8er; using the A200 lumalabas na DTSHD sa Info pero DTS lang ang kaya ng AX1). In case wala kang makuhang pang-test ng A1 kay Anchit. Magdala kalang ng balde or pinggan or tuppeware para paglagyan. Hehehe
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Reynold, meron sa bahay sa Pasig na BD Iso. 23GB big in m2ts container with DTSHD audiostream - (lumalabas na DTS sa Yamaha 757 using the Mede8er; using the A200 lumalabas na DTSHD sa Info pero DTS lang ang kaya ng AX1). In case wala kang makuhang pang-test ng A1 kay Anchit. Magdala kalang ng balde or pinggan or tuppeware para paglagyan. Hehehe
Wow, thanks for the offer sir. Tingnan ko po next week sir pag di busy. btw, saan po kayo sa pasig sir? Try ko rin i-test this weekend lahat ng mkvs ko ;)
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...been busy the whole day, here's why...
I checked all of my files mkv and m2ts using my mede8er to see which of my movies have issues of audio playback, all of my mkv's are good exept for one... Brooklyns Finest, and here's the audio comparison that i copied using mediainfo...
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MKV Movies:
Brooklyns Finest (8.75 gig) - Not Ok
ID : 3
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 2h 12mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 607 MiB (7%)
Language : English
The Dark Knight (11.1 gig) - ok
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 2h 32mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 697 MiB (6%)
Star Trek (13.1 Gig) - Ok
ID : 2
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Codec ID : A_DTS
Duration : 2h 6mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 510 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Stream size : 1.34 GiB (10%)
It's weird that Brooklyns and TDK have the same bitrate pero nagloloko ang audio ng brookyn at maayos ang TDK ??? ??? ???
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HOPEFUL ang DD0.64mbps Reynold. ;)
Might help to try Remuxing using MKVToolnix (MKVMerge) Brooklyn's Finext. It's about a 3-10 min process depending on your PC speed and filesize. Just make sure to disable COMPRESSION manually because malamang you would get Ver. 4.2.0 or newer. Im still using Ver 2.4 and it's just "open and remux" basically. Lalaki ng konting konti ang filesize when you remux.
Based sa title ng files, it can be assumed that iba ang version ng writing/encoding/muxing application ng Brooklyn's Finest and TDK; the TDK most likely using an older version.
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And here' for the M2TS movies ko....
M2TS Movies:
2012 (3.99 gig) - Ok
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 2h 37mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 433 MiB (11%)
Language : English
Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (3.99 gig) - Ok
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 2h 33mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 703 MiB (17%)
Language : English
Death Race (4 gig) - Not Ok
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 1h 50mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 506 MiB (12%)
Kung-fu Hustle (4 gig) - Not Ok
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 1h 38mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 453 MiB (11%)
Same bitrate din ang Harry Potter with Kungfu Hustle and Death Race pero magkaiba din ang Audio playback result nila... ???
NOTE:
All of my 22 m2ts files na may problem sa audio playback are ranging from 3.95 gig to 4.1gig and their resolution is 1920*1080, same as Death Race and Kungfu Hustle ang media info nila ??? ??? ???
Ang question ko, kung hindi kaya ng DSP-A1 ko ang 640kbps (standard Hi-def Audio), bakit nape-play nya ang Harry Potter (m2ts) at Dark Knight (mkv) ng maayos???
why o why...
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Paki-post yung Writing Application version Reynold.
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HOPEFUL ang DD0.64mbps Reynold. ;)
Might help to try Remuxing using MKVToolnix (MKVMerge) Brooklyn's Finext. It's about a 3-10 min process depending on your PC speed and filesize. Just make sure to disable COMPRESSION manually because malamang you would get Ver. 4.2.0 or newer. Im still using Ver 2.4 and it's just "open and remux" basically. Lalaki ng konting konti ang filesize when you remux.
Based sa title ng files, it can be assumed that iba ang version ng writing/encoding/muxing application ng Brooklyn's Finest and TDK; the TDK most likely using an older version.
Thanks for the very quick reply and software recommendation sir, i'll try MKVToolnix :)
... kaso bagal ng net ko ngayon, napuputol connection ko :(
Anyway, does this means that my DSP-A1 can still handle HD-Audio? what i mean is, hindi receiver ko ang culprit ng playback issue sir?
Ano pong Writing Application version sir? sa mediainfo po ba yun?
Thanks ;)
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Anyway, does this means that my DSP-A1 can still handle HD-Audio? what i mean is, hindi receiver ko ang culprit ng playback issue sir?
Ano pong Writing Application version sir? sa mediainfo po ba yun?
Yeah it appears to me that the audiostream bitrate is not the issue - hence I am getting more hopeful about your A1 - it wont be able to stream DTS-HD/MA or TrueHD but chances are, it will output the DTS core at 1.5mbps or DD0.6mbps from the HD audiostream of a properly encoded file.
Yeah try to use Mediainfo (or MKVInfo sa MKVToolnix) to open your MKVs and sa pane ng Video, you would see the Writing Application version. Im not sure kung lalabas that kind of detail sa m2ts using Mediainfo.
Example ne. Those problematic files sa Mede8er and A200 have writing application MKVMerge Ver 4.2.0. Ive fixed those using the older MKVMerge 2.4.0.
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Yehey, iwas gastos ako :D
Here's the writing application of Brooklyns Finest sir...
Complete name : F:\Movies\Hi-Def Movies\Movies\Brooklyn's Finest 1080p.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 8.75 GiB
Duration : 2h 12mn
Overall bit rate : 9 441 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2010-06-23 07:42:50
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.9.8 ('C'est le bon') built on Aug 13 2009 12:49:06
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1
eto naman yung sa TDK, mukhang ayos pag 2.4.0...
Complete name : F:\Movies\Hi-Def Movies\Movies\The Dark Knight\The Dark Knight.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 11.1 GiB
Duration : 2h 32mn
Overall bit rate : 10.5 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2009-01-01 13:28:57
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.4.0 ('Fumbling Towards Ecstasy') built on Oct 11 2008 20:13:15
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1
i'll try to look for the m2ts...
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eto naman po ang nakita ko sa M2TS using mediainfo...
Harry Potter (Ok playback)
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 2h 33mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 2 825 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 25.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.057
Stream size : 3.14 GiB (79%)
Writing library : x264 core 80 r1376kGIT 3feaec2
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / wpredp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=2825 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=25000 / vbv_bufsize=25000 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Death Race (Problematic playback)
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 1h 50mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 4 215 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 25.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.085
Stream size : 3.34 GiB (84%)
Writing library : x264 core 66 r1114M a933a3e
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=3 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=4215 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=25000 / vbv_bufsize=25000 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00
2012 (ok playback)
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 2h 37mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 3 008 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 25.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.061
Stream size : 3.40 GiB (85%)
Writing library : x264 core 80 r1376kGIT 3feaec2
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=3 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / wpredp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=3008 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=25000 / vbv_bufsize=25000 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Kungfu Hustle (problematic playback)
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 1h 38mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 4 801 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 25.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.097
Stream size : 3.39 GiB (85%)
Writing library : x264 core 68 r1195M 5d75a9b
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=3 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / rc=2pass / bitrate=4801 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=25000 / vbv_bufsize=25000 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00
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For m2ts mukhang OK yung writing library na X264 Core 80. So mukhang hindi nga yung A1 ang problem. :)
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For m2ts mukhang OK yung writing library na X264 Core 80. So mukhang hindi nga yung A1 ang problem. :)
Wow, glad to hear that, safe ang DSP-A1 ko :)
papano ko po aayusin yung mga m2ts ko sir, anong tool ang pwede? Thanks :)
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papano ko po aayusin yung mga m2ts ko sir, anong tool ang pwede? Thanks :)
No experience remuxing non-MKV stuff. Im not sure if MKVToolnix can remux m2ts. I suggest you google about m2ts to mkv converter, or how to remux m2ts, or just get the mkv versions of the problematic m2ts titles.
TSmuxer yata ang kailangan mo but I haven't tried that because all my m2ts are pure BD rips that I dont touch at ul. ;)
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Weird problem nga.
m2ts is just a container file, so you should be able to unbundle the audio and video files in it. And then once you've transcoded the files to a lower resolution, you just remux it into either m2ts or mkv which is just another container file. Now as to what software to do that, that's the problem. Again, Google is your friend.
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I guess i'll try TSmuxer for m2ts files, bagal lang ng net ko ngayon :(
so, bale files pala ang may problem ngayon and not my A1... pero bakit maayos ko naman nai-play yung m2ts ko sa setup ng eHome? and isa pang katanungan mga sir, if yung writing application version ang may problem, ano ang effect nun sa dsp-A1?
hhhmmmmnn... weird ba? hehehe ;D
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so, bale files pala ang may problem ngayon and not my A1... pero bakit maayos ko naman nai-play yung m2ts ko sa setup ng eHome? and isa pang katanungan mga sir, if yung writing application version ang may problem, ano ang effect nun sa dsp-A1?
The same way that certain devices may have handshaking issues that can be corrected by FW update. Probably fair to say that older AVRs may be less forgiving of seemingly small differences in encoding settings and writing applications than newer AVR. But what is hopeful about a flagship model like A1 is that it was well ahead of its time, hence I thought an A1 cannot be simply overcome by bitrate as long as the audiostream is either old school DD or DTS. Take note, pati DTS 1.5mbps ay kaya ng A1 mo.
Encoding set-ups and writing applications definitely affect the final output of a compressed content. It is complicated. That's why there are prime encoding groups that not only know how to select the proper encoding settings for optimum IQ/SQ at minimum filesize, but also make sure that playback would be highly reliable.
Baka mas appropriate isipin na instead of "weird problem", it's more of "fickle encode" - kaya dapat STICK TO ORIGINAL DISK KASI. ;D
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I just noticed that those m2ts files you have that are not OK have bit rates in the 4000 + Kbps while the OK ones are 3000 Kbps and below. Just an observation.
Also, you can demux your M2ts files into separate audio and video files, but you will need another software to remux the two files into mkv. What are your using? mkvmerge?
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The same way that certain devices may have handshaking issues that can be corrected by FW update. Probably fair to say that older AVRs may be less forgiving of seemingly small differences in encoding settings and writing applications than newer AVR. But what is hopeful about a flagship model like A1 is that it was well ahead of its time, hence I thought an A1 cannot be simply overcome by bitrate as long as the audiostream is either old school DD or DTS. Take note, pati DTS 1.5mbps ay kaya ng A1 mo.
Encoding set-ups and writing applications definitely affect the final output of a compressed content. It is complicated. That's why there are prime encoding groups that not only know how to select the proper encoding settings for optimum IQ/SQ at minimum filesize, but also make sure that playback would be highly reliable.
Baka mas appropriate isipin na instead of "weird problem", it's more of "fickle encode" - kaya dapat STICK TO ORIGINAL DISK KASI. ;D
Bigla ko tuloy naalala yung mga blu-ray na napanood ko na using may LG blu-ray player hooked on my DSP-A1, wala akong naging problem sa audio playback especially with the movie UP (HD audio encoded), but may m2ts copy of UP is the same with all of my problematic files... it's possible nga Sir Clondalkin na sa file compression nagka-problem yung mga movie ::)
I just noticed that those m2ts files you have that are not OK have bit rates in the 4000 + Kbps while the OK ones are 3000 Kbps and below. Just an observation.
Also, you can demux your M2ts files into separate audio and video files, but you will need another software to remux the two files into mkv. What are your using? mkvmerge?
where did you see the 4000 + kbps sir Av_phile? I will try your suggestion about demuxing sir, thanks ;)
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where did you see the 4000 + kbps sir Av_phile? I will try your suggestion about demuxing sir, thanks ;)
Here
eto naman po ang nakita ko sa M2TS using mediainfo...
Harry Potter (Ok playback)
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 2h 33mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 2 825 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 25.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.057
Stream size : 3.14 GiB (79%)
Writing library : x264 core 80 r1376kGIT 3feaec2
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / wpredp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=2825 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=25000 / vbv_bufsize=25000 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Death Race (Problematic playback)
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 1h 50mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 4 215 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 25.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.085
Stream size : 3.34 GiB (84%)
Writing library : x264 core 66 r1114M a933a3e
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=3 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=4215 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=25000 / vbv_bufsize=25000 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00
2012 (ok playback)
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 2h 37mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 3 008 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 25.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.061
Stream size : 3.40 GiB (85%)
Writing library : x264 core 80 r1376kGIT 3feaec2
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=3 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / wpredp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=3008 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=25000 / vbv_bufsize=25000 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Kungfu Hustle (problematic playback)
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 1h 38mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 4 801 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 25.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.097
Stream size : 3.39 GiB (85%)
Writing library : x264 core 68 r1195M 5d75a9b
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=3 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / rc=2pass / bitrate=4801 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=25000 / vbv_bufsize=25000 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00
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Also, don't confuse the 640kbps DD bitrate as HD audio. It's not. It's the DD core in a Dolby TrueHD track. The same way you have the DTS core in a DTS Master Audio. That allows any Blu Ray disc to be DOWNWARD compatible with any old equipment. Just to give you an idea, the Dolby TrueHD has an audio bitrate that can go up to 18 Mbps.
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Also, don't confuse the 640kbps DD bitrate as HD audio. It's not. It's the DD core in a Dolby TrueHD track. The same way you have the DTS core in a DTS Master Audio. That allows any Blu Ray disc to be DOWNWARD compatible with any old equipment. Just to give you an idea, the Dolby TrueHD has an audio bitrate that can go up to 18 Mbps.
I see, i thought 640kbps is the standard for HD Audio as you mentioned on your previous post if im not mistaken... What's the minimum bitrate of HD Audio sir?
what confuses me now is those 4000 + kbps, di ba bitrate sya sa ng video lang at iba pa yung sa audio, tama po ba? if so, ano po ang kinalaman nya sa audio playback?...
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bilib talaga ako sa mga members dito, hanep sa tulungan at walang humpay na pagsasaliksik para masulosyunan lang ang problema lalo na kung weird ;D
Bow!
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I see, i thought 640kbps is the standard for HD Audio as you mentioned on your previous post if im not mistaken... What's the minimum bitrate of HD Audio sir?
what confuses me now is those 4000 + kbps, di ba bitrate sya sa ng video lang at iba pa yung sa audio, tama po ba? if so, ano po ang kinalaman nya sa audio playback?...
I did say that the "new ones have 640kbps" but never once mentioned it's the standard for HD audio. It only means the DD track is maxed out to its highest bitrate with BD while the old DVD standard DD track is limited to 448Kbps.
BD supports many audio formats as follows with their corresponding max audio bitrates:
DD core: 640kbps
DTS core: 1.5Mbps
Dolby Digital Plus: 4.7Mbps
Dolby TrueHD: 18Mbps
DTS HD: 24Mbps
LPCM: 27Mbps
The 4000+ video bitrate I pointed out was an observation which distinguished your problematic files. I never said it could cause the problem though I was thinking you may want to look into that.
2 years ago, when I was transcoding some DVD VOB files into MPEG4 for my Sony Ericsson and iPod Touch gadgets, I remember having problems with high bitrates in video causing synch and audio stammering problems while some with very high bitrates just refused to play. But when I reduced the video bitrates on the same resolution, I got it solved.
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I did say that the "new ones have 640kbps" but never once mentioned it's the standard for HD audio. It only means the DD track is maxed out to its highest bitrate with BD while the old DVD standard DD track is limited to 448Kbps.
BD supports many audio formats as follows with their corresponding max audio bitrates:
DD core: 640kbps
DTS core: 1.5Mbps
Dolby Digital Plus: 4.7Mbps
Dolby TrueHD: 18Mbps
DTS HD: 24Mbps
LPCM: 27Mbps
Noted Sir av_phile :)
The 4000+ video bitrate I pointed out was an observation which distinguished your problematic files. I never said it could cause the problem though I was thinking you may want to look into that.
2 years ago, when I was transcoding some DVD VOB files into MPEG4 for my Sony Ericsson and iPod Touch gadgets, I remember having problems with high bitrates in video causing synch and audio stammering problems while some with very high bitrates just refused to play. But when I reduced the video bitrates on the same resolution, I got it solved.
I'll check all of my problematic m2ts and try to reduce their bitrates, hopefully it will solve mine.. Thank you so much sir ;)
bilib talaga ako sa mga members dito, hanep sa tulungan at walang humpay na pagsasaliksik para masulosyunan lang ang problema lalo na kung weird ;D
Bow!
Yeah, sinabi mo pa, walang iwanan dito :)
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000 mbps video bitrate should not be a problem with your Mede8er. The Mede8er would not even sweat playing Eureka's 1080p files having 18-20mbps average video bitrates in MKV container. For pure BD rips in m2ts, maski na 27-32mbps ay kinakaya ng Egreat31B, paano pa ang Mede8er?
One interesting thing Ive observed, and also verified by other members who have tried, the NMTs Ive actually used (Egreat 31B, Mede8er and A200) tend to play pure BD rips "smoother" than compressed 1080ps...so my inference is, the compression/encoding process effectively adds burden to the media player even though the compression reduces the size of the file considerably - kaya mas "madali" (reliable) ang original Bluray than MKV or m2ts via NMT for Reynold's A1. hehehe. If only the likes of Sony or Toshiba or Panasonic or Philips would actually spend money on hardware decoding of MKVS...hehehe
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I made some testing kagabi, medyo matrabaho nga lang, hehehe :)
Punta ako sa pc ko, I downloaded mkvtoolnix 4.2.0 then connect ko yung mede8er ko sa pc via usb, then remuxed my mkvs - Brooklyns finest (problematic) and From Paris with love (ok)... after that baba ako sa sala, setup my mede8er and as expected, problematic pa rin ang brooklyns finest... naging problematic din yung from paris with love, hehehe so tama si Sir Clondalkin, may kinalaman nga siguro ang version ng toolnix :)
and then tinanggal ko ulit yung mede8er para ikabit sa pc ko sa room ko sa taas, sinubukan ko naman i-demux yung m2ts ko na Cloudy with a chance of a meatballs (problematic) using TSremuxer, then i remuxed it using mkvtoolnix para maging mkv file sya... ganun pa din ang problem, siguro dahil mkvtoolnix 4.2.0 pa rin ang gamit ko...
tapos inantok na ako, hehehe mamaya naman try ko yung mkvtoolnix 2.4.0 :)
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Not sure if same, but you can try mkvmerge
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4000 mbps video bitrate should not be a problem with your Mede8er. The Mede8er would not even sweat playing Eureka's 1080p files having 18-20mbps average video bitrates in MKV container. For pure BD rips in m2ts, maski na 27-32mbps ay kinakaya ng Egreat31B, paano pa ang Mede8er?
One interesting thing Ive observed, and also verified by other members who have tried, the NMTs Ive actually used (Egreat 31B, Mede8er and A200) tend to play pure BD rips "smoother" than compressed 1080ps...so my inference is, the compression/encoding process effectively adds burden to the media player even though the compression reduces the size of the file considerably - kaya mas "madali" (reliable) ang original Bluray than MKV or m2ts via NMT for Reynold's A1. hehehe. If only the likes of Sony or Toshiba or Panasonic or Philips would actually spend money on hardware decoding of MKVS...hehehe
So there should be no problem with bitrates.
Just FYI, BD files are also compressed files with video using MPEG2, AVC or VC1. Container file for its audio/video stream is in the file name xxxxx.m2ts.
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4mbps pala and not 4000mbps. Hehehe. Bitrates could be problematic if its over 10mbps or the encode is not DXVA compliant and most especially if the profile is Level 5.1 (most are using Level 4.1 now including Reynold's samples) - but that's speaking of 1st gen NMTs like the Egreat31B or PCH110. As posted earlier, Mede8er can take the baddest that Eurekas and Framestors have released - over 20GB single 1080p files with higher than 18mbps video + DTS 1.5mbps core. 4mbps is on the low side even for vanilla 720p mkvs as better 720p encodes have over 5mbps.
I meant compression/encoding from BD (MPEG2, AVC, VC1) in m2ts streams to X264. X264 is really very efficient in terms of reducing the filesize but groups like Eureka always strive for minimum compression, thus their encodes tend to be huge - but reliably playable.
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another remedy: use original media. ;D
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Not sure if same, but you can try mkvmerge
I think its the same sir (mkvtoolnix and mkvmerge)
another remedy: use original media. ;D
That's correct, but the problem is... if we use original media, mawawalan ng saysay ang mga nmts natin ;D
Sir Clondalkin,
i also tried remuxing my brooklyns finest (mkv) using mkvtoolnix 2.4.0, it didn't work, ganun pa rin ang audio playback :(
Sir av_phile,
papano ko bababaan ang bitrate ng video, i cant find it in TSmuxer nor mkvtoolnix...
are there any other possible solutions pa ba? Thanks.
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i also tried remuxing my brooklyns finest (mkv) using mkvtoolnix 2.4.0, it didn't work, ganun pa rin ang audio playback :(
are there any other possible solutions pa ba? Thanks.
Pinakamabilis na solution - goto my place and bring enough HDD space, or look for someone who has a different version of your files. If you still have any sound issues with my files or other people's files, then perhaps it's time to consider replacing the A1.
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Pinakamabilis na solution - goto my place and bring enough HDD space, or look for someone who has a different version of your files. If you still have any sound issues with my files or other people's files, then perhaps it's time to consider replacing the A1.
Noted sir, i guess that's my last option. Inform ko po kayo when i find time para pumunta sa inyo, medyo malayo po kasi from my place e, i'm from Malabon kasi... Pero maraming salamat sir sa mga tulong, i really appreciate all of it ;)
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I think neither TSmuxer or mkvmerge can alter the bitrates. They only separate or combine together the audio and video bitstreams. What you need is a video codec converter which you can use to alter the video or audio bitrate but only AFTER you have demuxed your m2ts files using TSmuxer. I used to do it using Super Video Converter but it was limited and I don't think it works with H.263 or VC1 input files. I could transcode from one codec to another while allowing me to specify frame rate, bitrate, video resolution, audio sampling rate, etc. Google search for na lang.
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i already downloaded SUPER awhile ago, i'll try this later, seems it's so easy to use. Thanks for the recommendation sir av_phile ;)
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Just updating this thread...
Looks like my DSP-A1 isn't the culprit after all... I got some files MKVs and M2TS with DTSMA audio and file size ranging from 15Gig to 24Gig (courtesy of Bro Mkvmovies), the audio played flawlessly with my AVR :D
...though i encountered problems with a 24Gig Avatar and a 15Gig (i think) Kingkong with it's video Playability... my Mede8er freezed after a minute or two playing a 24gig AVATAR movie and a couple of minutes also while playing King Kong... hindi nagre-respond yung Mede8er ko, front panels and remote, wala ng response, even the power button... Unplugged the socket and power it on again, everything backk to normal naman, wag lang ipe-play yung Avata at Kingkong... pero ok naman yung ibang movies especially Godfather movies which are 19gig in size... Ano kaya problem?
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i think the problem with our setup is still the yamaha dsp-a1 ... kase kapag sa logitech z-5500 ko, wala naman problema i-play yung same files ... :'(
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i think the problem with our setup is still the yamaha dsp-a1 ... kase kapag sa logitech z-5500 ko, wala naman problema i-play yung same files ... :'(
but the problem now is the video playback and not the audio, nag-blank yung screen and then nag-freeze na... i don't think it's the receiver coz ok naman yung sounds coming from the AVR... it could be the file or the nmt, i'm not sure though...
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AVATAR is notorious for being tough for the rippers, for the encoders, for NMTS, for PCs and for us viewers. Just get the one from the best of the best encoders. What is the exact filename of your AVATAR file?
Your Kingkong was encoded from an HD-DVD source?
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Hi Sir Clondalkin... here are the information (via mediainfo) of each file...
AVATAR:
General
Complete name : C:\FilesKo\Hi-Def Movies\Avatar.2009.1080p.BluRay.DTSMA.x264-FLAWL3SS-HD - [ cinema.hexagon.cc ]\Avatar.2009.1080p.BluRay.DTSMA.x264-FLAWL3SS-HD.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 23.9 GiB
Duration : 2h 41mn
Overall bit rate : 21.2 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2010-04-27 09:03:38
Writing application : mkvmerge v3.3.0 ('Language') built on Mar 24 2010 14:59:24
Writing library : libebml v0.8.0 + libmatroska v0.9.0
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Muxing mode : Container [email protected]
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2h 41mn
Nominal bit rate : 17.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.342
Writing library : x264 core 94 r1564 a927654
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=10 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=64 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=2 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / wpredp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=60 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=17000 / ratetol=1.8 / qcomp=0.70 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=38000 / vbv_bufsize=38000 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=2:0.80 / nal_hrd=none
Language : English
Audio
ID : 2
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Format profile : MA
Codec ID : A_DTS
Duration : 2h 41mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Language : English
Text #1
ID : 3
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Bulgarian
Text #2
ID : 4
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Croatian
Text #3
ID : 5
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Czech
Text #4
ID : 6
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Danish
Text #5
ID : 7
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Dutch
Text #6
ID : 8
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : English
Text #7
ID : 9
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Finnish
Text #8
ID : 10
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : French
Text #9
ID : 11
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : German
Text #10
ID : 12
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Hungarian
Text #11
ID : 13
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Greek
Text #12
ID : 14
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Norwegian
Text #13
ID : 15
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Portuguese
Text #14
ID : 16
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Slovak
Text #15
ID : 17
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Slovenian
Text #16
ID : 18
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Swedish
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KINGKONG
General
Complete name : C:\FilesKo\Hi-Def Movies\King.Kong.2005.BluRay.1080p.DTSMA.x264.dxva-YoHo\King.Kong.2005.BluRay.1080p.DTSMA.x264.dxva-YoHo.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 19.2 GiB
Duration : 3h 7mn
Overall bit rate : 14.7 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2010-06-01 10:34:53
Writing application : mkvmerge v3.2.0 ('Beginnings') built on Feb 12 2010 16:46:17
Writing library : libebml v0.7.9 + libmatroska v0.8.1
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Muxing mode : Container [email protected]
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 3h 7mn
Nominal bit rate : 10.5 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 816 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.35:1
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.280
Writing library : x264 core 94 r1583 7608d73
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:-1:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=10 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.08 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=6 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=0 / rc=2pass / mbtree=0 / bitrate=10500 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=50000 / vbv_bufsize=50000 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00 / nal_hrd=none
Language : English
Audio
ID : 2
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Format profile : MA
Codec ID : A_DTS
Duration : 3h 7mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Language : English
Text #1
ID : 3
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : English
Text #2
ID : 4
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Czech
Text #3
ID : 5
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Spanish
Text #4
ID : 6
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Polish
Text #5
ID : 7
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Croatian
Text #6
ID : 8
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Romanian
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Ouch...
Way too many vobsub subtitles in that...
You'll have to remux that, strip it of unneeded subs/tracks.
Keep header compression off too.
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Ouch...
Way too many vobsub subtitles in that...
You'll have to remux that, strip it of unneeded subs/tracks.
Keep header compression off too.
Noted sir :)
btw, based on the info above, how will i know if the header compression was set to on/off?
Thanks :)
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Up ko lang ulit...
what seems to be the problem of my files (Avatar and Kingkong) above? ^^^
Anyone? Thanks :)
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Pa singit lang din po. I also have a Yamaha DSP-A1 at may problema din ako when playing some mkv's with DD track(crackling sound), pero ok naman sa DTS. I am using Xtreamer as NMT at nung una akala ko ay ito ang me problema but borrowed a WDTV live at ganun pa rin ang sound sa set-up ko. Ginawa ko na lang e kinonvert ko na lang sa DTS yung audio files ng mga problematic DD track. Medyo lalaki nga lang ang file size ng konti. I was relieved when I read this thread. Kasi akala ko e ako lang ang me ganitong problema with this kind of set-up.
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what seems to be the problem of my files (Avatar and Kingkong) above? ^^^
Cant see anything seriously wrong with the info you provided although I feel that MKV+DTSMA/HD, TrueHD can be iffy.
One way to isolate your problem is to try my AVATAR (around 16Mbps din ang average bitrate so almost as high as your Flawl3ss encode and nagasgas na yata sa kapapanood ng mga relatives sa Pasig) and probably whatever BD ISO with HD audio (similar 18Mbps average bitrate) I have in Manila. Kung palpak din, then Mede8er FW problem siguro. Im still using the Dec 2009 FW sa Mede8er ko.
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Pa singit lang din po. I also have a Yamaha DSP-A1 at may problema din ako when playing some mkv's with DD track(crackling sound), pero ok naman sa DTS. I am using Xtreamer as NMT at nung una akala ko ay ito ang me problema but borrowed a WDTV live at ganun pa rin ang sound sa set-up ko. Ginawa ko na lang e kinonvert ko na lang sa DTS yung audio files ng mga problematic DD track. Medyo lalaki nga lang ang file size ng konti. I was relieved when I read this thread. Kasi akala ko e ako lang ang me ganitong problema with this kind of set-up.
Hi bro, i'm still not convinced that the DSP-A1 is the culprit. I made some testing last night, using the 2 files above, i did not use my DSP-A1 (i disconnected the receiver and i only used the sound output of my tv setting my mede8er audio output to HDMI passthrough), still the files freezes... I also did the same thing with all the files with gargling sounds, the result was the same... so without the use of my DSP-A1, the problems were still there...
Cant see anything seriously wrong with the info you provided although I feel that MKV+DTSMA/HD, TrueHD can be iffy.
One way to isolate your problem is to try my AVATAR (around 16Mbps din ang average bitrate so almost as high as your Flawl3ss encode and nagasgas na yata sa kapapanood ng mga relatives sa Pasig) and probably whatever BD ISO with HD audio (similar 18Mbps average bitrate) I have in Manila. Kung palpak din, then Mede8er FW problem siguro. Im still using the Dec 2009 FW sa Mede8er ko.
I also used mkvtoolnix and set the compression to "none" and removed all subtitles except the English, still the file and my mede8er freezed... Sana makapunta ako sa inyo sa pasig sir para ma-copy ko ang files mo para ma-isolate ko pa ang problem na 'to, hehehe :)
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Hi bro, i'm still not convinced that the DSP-A1 is the culprit. I made some testing last night, using the 2 files above, i did not use my DSP-A1 (i disconnected the receiver and i only used the sound output of my tv setting my mede8er audio output to HDMI passthrough), still the files freezes... I also did the same thing with all the files with gargling sounds, the result was the same... so without the use of my DSP-A1, the problems were still there...
Ako naman, pag di ko ginamit yung DSP-A1, OK lahat yung mga problematic files sa LG LCD tv ko. Kaya medyo convinced ako na sa amp natin ang problema.
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^^^ pa-weird na ng pa-weird ang problemang ito ha, hehehe ;D
parang gusto ko ng sumuko :(
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Remux without Vobsub subtitles. You just want the Video+HD Audio
You can add simpler subtitle format like SRT.
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Remux without Vobsub subtitles. You just want the Video+HD Audio
You can add simpler subtitle format like SRT.
Ok, i will try yhis bro. Thanks :)
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Problem is not weird. Encoded files can be dubious. You just have to find the one that will play. Taking any unplayable file too seriously is similar to taking the Big Talk thread like a vocation. ;D
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Problem is not weird. Encoded files can be dubious. You just have to find the one that will play. Taking any unplayable file too seriously is similar to taking the Big Talk thread like a vocation. ;D
Agree 100%
You cannot judge a player or it's firmware to be faulty using content not of your own.
If I get files that don't work I almost always blame the content first before the player. It's only when I get problems using content I personally rip that I can factor in na baka nga meron problem sa player/firmware.
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Problem is not weird. Encoded files can be dubious. You just have to find the one that will play. Taking any unplayable file too seriously is similar to taking the Big Talk thread like a vocation. ;D
Natawa naman ako dito, hehehe ;D
Sige, di ko na masyado po-problemahin yung mga files, pag di nag-work e di i-delete, hehehe dami pang files na nagkalat dyan :)
I hope someday i can get a file from you sir Clondalkin, problem is magkalayo ang place natin, out-of-way pa pag pasok at pag-uwi ko from work...