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Home Theater => Sources => HTPCs => Topic started by: FrancisD on Feb 18, 2011 at 12:31 PM
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The 'Dream' HTPC video card is now locally available for less than Php 2,200! This is what I recommend to HTPC builders (personally I'm waiting for the AMD Fusion E-350). I don't have long term experience with these cards so share comments to those who have this :D
the card is able to bitstream high-def audio codecs to your compatible receiver over a protected audio path.
Tomshardware
it is silent and the fact that it can do HDMI 1.3a with Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio it is the ideal graphics card for a HTPC. For less than $60 the Radeon HD 5450 video card costs less than HDMI sound cards like the $139 ASUS Xonar HDAV 1.3 Slim HDMI Audio Card that was once needed for DTS-HD Master Audio bitstreaming.
Legit Reviews
This also scores a perfect 100 from HD HQV benchmark. Silent, cool, great video - what more do you need?
(http://www.pro-clockers.com/images/review/gigabyte/5450/front.jpg)
See links below:
http://www.techspot.com/review/244-ati-radeon-hd-5450/page3.html
http://www.pro-clockers.com/videocards/1173-gigabyte-gv-r545oc-radeon-hd-5450-.html?start=5
http://techgage.com/article/atis_radeon_hd_5450_-_the_perfect_htpc_card/10
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1202/13/
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5450,2549-4.html
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Even though im an ATI fanboy IMHO Nvidia GT430 is much better for HTPC ;D
http://www.hwcompare.com/7151/geforce-gt-430-1gb-vs-radeon-hd-5450/ (http://www.hwcompare.com/7151/geforce-gt-430-1gb-vs-radeon-hd-5450/)
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Comments on other alternatives / recos for HTPC video cards?
The GT 430 looks good (mas mahal lang and less power efficient).
I've tried HD 3650 and HD 5750 in terms of basic HD playback -both deliver very good video quality (output to 32 inch samsung Series 3 LCD) - I guess we are at a point where video quality is high all around.
HD 5750 can do digital audio pass through for HDMI, HD 3650 cannot do this. I believe the GT 430 can also do HDMI audio pass through up to 7.1...
For those who can afford it - HD 5670 is relatively power efficient and can handle PC gaming with modern titles (the most powerful card not needing an additional power connector).
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Very nice... looks like ito solution sa HTPC problem ko (how to send HD Audio to my HDMI AVR). It's been causing me to consider going back to the NMT route. Pero cheaper to get this video card than another NMT.
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Great, try this card. Just note that if you are sensitive to video quality - NMT is in a different class (lower). Also, with a PC, sound quality is only limited by your budget, hehehe. You can do HDMI, separate digital out to a dedicated stereo DAC....
Happy Listening :)
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Nice one.
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Great, try this card. Just note that if you are sensitive to video quality - NMT is in a different class (lower). Also, with a PC, sound quality is only limited by your budget, hehehe. You can do HDMI, separate digital out to a dedicated stereo DAC....
Curious lang ako, sa mga kaibigan natin dyan na nakasubok na ng pure BD rips via any kind of NMT, and who also own a real BD player or HTPC, do you really notice any difference?
Na-divorce kasi ang PC ko from the HDTV ever since I bought a V20 and I have not bothered to compare a PC output to that of my A200 on pure BD rip playback because I'm quite satisfied with the A200 output. Also, I dont have a BD player...but between MKVs and pure BD rips via the same NMT, kitang kita ang difference sa image and naririnig ang difference in sound - at least with my gears.
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Curious lang ako, sa mga kaibigan natin dyan na nakasubok na ng pure BD rips via any kind of NMT, and who also own a real BD player or HTPC, do you really notice any difference?
Na-divorce kasi ang PC ko from the HDTV ever since I bought a V20 and I have not bothered to compare a PC output to that of my A200 on pure BD rip playback because I'm quite satisfied with the A200 output. Also, I dont have a BD player...but between MKVs and pure BD rips via the same NMT, kitang kita ang difference sa image and naririnig ang difference in sound - at least with my gears.
ako din sir curious, ???, from my simple setup, i was able able to compare measy and laptop video quality using avatar 25 gig, mas nagandahan talaga ako sa laptop video ko, i dont know if this subjective or what, any observations?
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ako din sir curious, ???, from my simple setup, i was able able to compare measy and laptop video quality using avatar 25 gig, mas nagandahan talaga ako sa laptop video ko, i dont know if this subjective or what, any observations?
First time ko palang na-try ang NMT, I noticed immediately na mas matingkad ang color ng PC, but that was in March 2009 pa. Since then, encodes have improved, video bitrates have increased tremendously and then lumabas na nga ang pure BD rips, not to mention gumanda na lalo ang IQ ng mga HDTVs. So I dont know if obvious pa rin ang advantage ng PC using those kinds of contents, in combination with better HDTV.
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I would personally still prefer the HD5670 over the others. :)
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First time ko palang na-try ang NMT, I noticed immediately na mas matingkad ang color ng PC, but that was in March 2009 pa. Since then, encodes have improved, video bitrates have increased tremendously and then lumabas na nga ang pure BD rips, not to mention gumanda na lalo ang IQ ng mga HDTVs. So I dont know if obvious pa rin ang advantage ng PC using those kinds of contents, in combination with better HDTV.
I have tried different video cards ATI and Nvidia some low end and high end video cards. If the purpose is only FullHD viewing, I can't see the difference in PQ with my current NMT. Even compared to a bluray player, same source halos walang difference talaga. :D
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Finally ordered this from PCNetmiles in TPC. Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 5450 1Gb DDR3. P2,200 lang (Gigabyte 1Gb version is P2,800). I hope I got a good VC. 1 year shop warranty plus 2 more years warranty from Axis Global. Not bad.
Can't wait to install tonight on my 870G HTPC rig. Di yata puwede mag Hybrid XFire ang older 870G (Radeon 3200) and the newer HD 5450 eh. Sana simple lang ang setup, and kaya na agad mag-output nang audio (HD, DD, DTS, PCM) via HDMI right after installation. Para isang cable na lang from my HTPC to my AVR...
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more feedback im planning to built a htpc rather than NMT
please advise kung anu pwedeng ibundle na MOBO dito sa vc na to..
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more feedback im planning to built a htpc rather than NMT
please advise kung anu pwedeng ibundle na MOBO dito sa vc na to..
Any mobo with PCI-E should be ok. Pero kung Hybrid CrossFireX ang habol mo na feature (which many say is useless), check mo the below site:
http://sites.amd.com/us/game/products/certified/Pages/certified-motherboards.aspx
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I think the quality from video cards is better, but its very subjective. People find LCD better than Plasma, but for me the Plasma HDTV delivers picture quality that are so much better its hard to compare. What I mean is though people are more sensitive to visual information, we care less about the actual quality - i.e. for me size maybe given more weight than picture quality. NMT video quality now is better.
Advantage of PC is that you have better picture quality, numerous sound upgrade option and playability of files. Maybe I may not care about actual picture difference for NMT, the sound quality for me takes the case. Hard to listen to really good audio from NMT (Popcorn). I have only one main system and when you do home theater and stream music, the audio quality in NMT I have tested is not good enough.
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Lately, I have installed a BDROM to my HTPC with the following specs:
Emaxx EMX-ANF82HD-PRO (http://www.pctrends.com.ph/products/view/id/39)
2GB DDR2
AMD Athlon X2 5000+
Running on the onboard nVidia GF8200 Graphics via HDMI, I just noticed that when I play BDs, the video stutters and hangs totally. I can play my downloaded 1080p MKVs flawlessly with this rig. Haven't tried full BD rips though.
Do I need a separate video card to play those BDs smoothly? I hope the gurus can help me on this one. TIA.
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doc shared kasi ung RAM pag onboard ang gamit and the BD audio uses a lot of RAM kaya its either add more RAM or add new video card I'll go for the later ;)
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doc shared kasi ung RAM pag onboard ang gamit and the BD audio uses a lot of RAM kaya its either add more RAM or add new video card I'll go for the later ;)
Thanks for the response bro! Looking at my low profile videocard options, it's either the ATI HD5550 or the NVIDIA GT430. Any suggestions on which is the better buy? This is definitely for BD playboack and no gaming purpose. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/29.gif)
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Thanks for the response bro! Looking at my low profile videocard options, it's either the ATI HD5550 or the NVIDIA GT430. Any suggestions on which is the better buy? This is definitely for BD playboack and no gaming purpose. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/29.gif)
doc go for GT430. ;)
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Thanks for the response bro! Looking at my low profile videocard options, it's either the ATI HD5550 or the NVIDIA GT430. Any suggestions on which is the better buy? This is definitely for BD playboack and no gaming purpose. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/29.gif)
Ako naman, I'd go with ATI Radeon HD 5550. They're better suited for HT. For gaming, go GeForce.
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doc go for GT430. ;)
As I've read in the forums that Nvidia is a bit late on developing videocards for HTPC applications specially those that bitstream HD audio. With this, I surmise that ATI might be a bit "mature" for HTPC videocards that can bitstream HD audio via HDMI.
Ako naman, I'd go with ATI Radeon HD 5550. They're better suited for HT. For gaming, go GeForce.
Looks like I will be leaning towards ATI for my HTPC purposes.
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I have a 3870 and a 4850, thus I am an ATI fanboi. Hehehe. ATI has always been more advanced when it comes to video engine but perhaps Nvidia has already caught up (not in the time of my cards though).
The advantage in getting an Nvidia is its exclusive support for its proprietary Nvidia 3D Pack - I think - and if you are a heavy hardcore gamer.
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I believe the gf8200 is a poor candidate for HD playback.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/graphics-blu-ray-video,2030-7.html
It drops frames in higher resolution.
An interim solution is to use lower resolution when playing HD content with GF8200. Best solution is get the HD 5450 video card. This scores extremely high in HD tests and does HDMI audio. Cheaper too at Php 2,200 or thereabouts...
If you want something cheaper for HD playback but without HDMI audio, I had good results with HD 3650.
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The advantage in getting an Nvidia is its exclusive support for its proprietary Nvidia 3D Pack - I think - and if you are a heavy hardcore gamer.
Not really a fan of 3D. Even in local theaters, I would still prefer watching the 2D version.
I believe the gf8200 is a poor candidate for HD playback.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/graphics-blu-ray-video,2030-7.html
It drops frames in higher resolution.
An interim solution is to use lower resolution when playing HD content with GF8200. Best solution is get the HD 5450 video card. This scores extremely high in HD tests and does HDMI audio. Cheaper too at Php 2,200 or thereabouts...
If you want something cheaper for HD playback but without HDMI audio, I had good results with HD 3650.
My goal really is a smooth BD playback plus HD audio bitstreaming to my receiver via HDMi thus narrowing my choices on the 2 videocards. Thanks for the advise though. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/3.gif)
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Smooth BD playback on a 5XXX series is highly expected because even my old 3870 and 4850 can do that. HD-Audio streaming - that you have to verify yourself and inform us. ;)
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I have a question but I'm not sure if this is the proper thread.
Anyway, I have a 9800GT with 1GB of GDDR3 memory with an HDMI out. Does it tax the card's resources if I use both Video and Audio from it? Or should I output the sound instead through my sound card, keeping both video and audio streams separate?
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Got mine last night in PCExpress for Php2,050 Gigabyte brand ;)
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Got the Powercolor HD5550 this afternoon. Hooked it up to my rig and ran King Kong BD. Smooth playback! Woohoo! Haven't tried HD audio thru HDMI yet. I will update. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/4.gif)
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Congrats Doc Nerveblocker! I'm glad that you finally got what you were after. :)
To those who want 3D, the HD6xxx series isn't very expensive, and you get HDMI 1.4a 3d support afaik. Of course, the Nvidia GTX4xx and GTX5xx should also work.
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Got the Powercolor HD5550 this afternoon. Hooked it up to my rig and ran King Kong BD. Smooth playback! Woohoo! Haven't tried HD audio thru HDMI yet. I will update. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/4.gif)
doc keep me posted. :)
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Congrats Doc Nerveblocker! I'm glad that you finally got what you were after. :)
To those who want 3D, the HD6xxx series isn't very expensive, and you get HDMI 1.4a 3d support afaik. Of course, the Nvidia GTX4xx and GTX5xx should also work.
Thanks Master Ivan! The Nvidia GT430 has already 3D capabilities and it has the same price as of the HD5xxx series around the P3k mark.
doc keep me posted. :)
Thanks for the advise last Saturday. Really helped bro. I wouldn't know the HD audio bitstreaming success of my VC until my PJ arrives. Haaay....ke tagal! (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/45.gif)
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Thanks for the advise last Saturday. Really helped bro. I wouldn't know the HD audio bitstreaming success of my VC until my PJ arrives. Haaay....ke tagal! (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/45.gif)
np doc
btw why not temporarily place the 32" from your kids room to your ht just to check the new vga capabilities?
you still have 7 days naman to replace it. :)
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Its much easier to determine if ATI /AMD video cards would suit HTPC requirements. AMD production process includes finalizing certain specs for the whole series (HTPC related features included) - these are usually consistent for the whole series (i.e. 3xx,4xx,5xx). And they execute like Intel with VC (tick / tock) - if only they can do this for their chips, tsk...
With Invidia, its almost like going card by card, hard to find specific feature consistency. For HTPC usage for example, you get similar quality from the HD 5450 up to the high end (for some reason the 5750 has some issues with some HQV tests). I guess what would be more helpful is an NVIDIA thread as its quite simple for AMD / ATI. (I have a GT 240 and video is not as good as the others in the base series - does not also do HDMI sound pass through when lesser cards of the same series can...).
FYI - I was able to do HDMI audio with various 4xx cards (with AMD - you know you can do this with all 4xx cards...)
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np doc
btw why not temporarily place the 32" from your kids room to your ht just to check the new vga capabilities?
you still have 7 days naman to replace it. :)
Uy ok! Good idea! Masubukan na nga at mahusgahan. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/4.gif)
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Uy ok! Good idea! Masubukan na nga at mahusgahan. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/4.gif)
keep us posted doc. :D :D
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I installed the Realtek ATI HDMI Audio Driver and tried playing King Kong BD via PowerDVD10. The best I could get was LPCM on my receiver. It displays MultiCh. How can I get to show DTSHD-MA and the other HD audio formats to appear in my receiver?
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No experience with AMD ATI 5xx series (HDMI sound) but with the 4xx series (should be the same), go to sound and audio device properties and select ATI HD audio rear output. WIth this sound only goes through HDMI, you lose sound from multimedia speakers.
Hope this helps...
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No experience with AMD ATI 5xx series (HDMI sound) but with the 4xx series (should be the same), go to sound and audio device properties and select ATI HD audio rear output. WIth this sound only goes through HDMI, you lose sound from multimedia speakers.
Hope this helps...
Ok I'll check at the options. Presently my player for BDs is PowerDVD10 Ultra. Would it help if I loaded PowerDVD10 Ultra MarkII?
Even if I use KMPlayer it still outputs LPCM. ???
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Ok I'll check at the options. Presently my player for BDs is PowerDVD10 Ultra. Would it help if I loaded PowerDVD10 Ultra MarkII?
Even if I use KMPlayer it still outputs LPCM. ???
windows 7 na ba gamit mo doc?
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windows 7 na ba gamit mo doc?
XP pa din! Haha! But LPCM is also lossless audio so I guess this should do temporarily. :D
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XP pa din! Haha! But LPCM is also lossless audio so I guess this should do temporarily. :D
Your ATI card is acting as an HD-audio decoder then and outputting it as LPCM na... ;D
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XP pa din! Haha! But LPCM is also lossless audio so I guess this should do temporarily. :D
mas ok pa nga lpcm kase lossless sya, compared to dd/dts na compressed audio, am i right sir?
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I think you have to configure the audio device (output to 5.1 ) in the audio devices for ATI HD audio. Also, I think you have to set-up your software to output the DD / DTS (HD) to the audio device (ATI) for the type of HD on the disk being played. Only the paid software version of PDVD (not the OEM that comes with the Player) could output HD multichannel audio.
Since there is already audio through the HDMI, it may need just configuring the audio device and the software. Failing this, the standard initial solution may be a pain, deletion and re-installation of drivers....as the card and software could handle HD multi-channel - its a software configuration issue between the OS and the Player...
Now is the time one wishes the ease of use of NMT!
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Your ATI card is acting as an HD-audio decoder then and outputting it as LPCM na... ;D
I guess my receiver's decoding capabilites is useless at this point. :-\
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Ok I'll check at the options. Presently my player for BDs is PowerDVD10 Ultra. Would it help if I loaded PowerDVD10 Ultra MarkII?
Even if I use KMPlayer it still outputs LPCM. ???
Be patient Doc. Yan ang sakit sa ulo nang HTPC. It's all in the settings. I will try to make KMP output TrueHD and DTS-MA this weekend. I just takes time to tweak. So far, MPC-HC pa lang ang tested na maka-output eh. Not sure about PowerDVD10 and settings.
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Be patient Doc. Yan ang sakit sa ulo nang HTPC. It's all in the settings. I will try to make KMP output TrueHD and DTS-MA this weekend. I just takes time to tweak. So far, MPC-HC pa lang ang tested na maka-output eh. Not sure about PowerDVD10 and settings.
Sir Paolo,
Successful na ba ang tweeking mo with KMPlayer to output TrueHD and DTS-MA via HD5450?
I also have this video card in my HTPC and planning to buy Onkyo S3300/S3400 for upgrade.
Thanks :)
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Sir Paolo,
Successful na ba ang tweeking mo with KMPlayer to output TrueHD and DTS-MA via HD5450?
I also have this video card in my HTPC and planning to buy Onkyo S3300/S3400 for upgrade.
Thanks :)
Sa kasamaang palad, bumigay ang HTPC ko last weekend. Hanap pa ako time para ayusin. I suspect Mobo may problem. Baka kailangan i-RMA. If board nga may problem, I might go 880G para puwede hybrid crossfirex with the 5450 (sana with USB3 if available). Pero I'll need to upgrade to DDR3 mems too. Hassle...
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Sa kasamaang palad, bumigay ang HTPC ko last weekend. Hanap pa ako time para ayusin. I suspect Mobo may problem. Baka kailangan i-RMA. If board nga may problem, I might go 880G para puwede hybrid crossfirex with the 5450 (sana with USB3 if available). Pero I'll need to upgrade to DDR3 mems too. Hassle...
dont worry pao the speed bump from DDR2 vs DDR3 is noticable, atleast maramdaman mo ang upgrade ;)
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Sa kasamaang palad, bumigay ang HTPC ko last weekend. Hanap pa ako time para ayusin. I suspect Mobo may problem. Baka kailangan i-RMA. If board nga may problem, I might go 880G para puwede hybrid crossfirex with the 5450 (sana with USB3 if available). Pero I'll need to upgrade to DDR3 mems too. Hassle...
Awww, thats sad to know sir. Pero baka nga sign yan na you have to upgrade na ;D
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Upgraded my OS to Win7. I have loaded Realtek ATI HDMI audio driver for my HD5550. I have also selected Realtek HDMI HD Audio. On properties, it shows that HD audio is supported.
Installed PowerDVD10 Ultra MarkII. On the Audio properties, I selected the Realtek HDMI as my output device. There were 2 choices either to output decoded LPCM or undecoded DD/DTS. I chose the latter then I played a Bluray disc with Dolby TrueHD. When the movie was playing, my choices in my receiver were DD and DD-EX only. :-\
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^ Have you tried via TMT software doc?
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This might be a dumb question, but in my understanding, the official ATI HDMI Audio Driver is included in the newer Catalyst version, specifically version 10.x. So why do you have to install a Realtek ATI driver instead?
Regarding TMT3, I am positive the option for Dolby TrueHD/DTS-HDMA is there within TMT3's audio settings. I also have the latest TMT5 but haven't tried yet as I have no problems with TMT3 at all.
Hi Gunblade!. Happy? hehehe
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Yup, I know I saw a setting in the TMT3 for the Dolby TrueHD but havenn't played aroound with it yet(wala pa kong AVR capable to decode HD audio)
@Clon, I'm getting LPCMs din via SPDIF but otherwise happy ;) in preparation for an AVR upgrade ;D
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Yup, I know I saw a setting in the TMT3 for the Dolby TrueHD but havenn't played aroound with it yet(wala pa kong AVR capable to decode HD audio)
@Clon, I'm getting LPCMs din via SPDIF but otherwise happy ;) in preparation for an AVR upgrade ;D
Pareho lang tayong walang tamang AVR. ;D and I would have to get a 5xxxx or a Xonar if I want to see the blue lights of DTS-HD/TrueHD (still using a 4850 and 3870).
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^ Have you tried via TMT software doc?
Not yet. I'll try to test it later. The tutorial I was reading to link an external player to play BD ISOs in XBMC was for PowerDVD . I'm happy with the PQ and SQ of PowerDVD but I am not able to maximize my VC and my receiver's capabilities. LPCM is fine but I want HD audio to be bitstreamed to my receiver. I'll try to customize the settings for TMT then I'll report the results.
This might be a dumb question, but in my understanding, the official ATI HDMI Audio Driver is included in the newer Catalyst version, specifically version 10.x. So why do you have to install a Realtek ATI driver instead?
Regarding TMT3, I am positive the option for Dolby TrueHD/DTS-HDMA is there within TMT3's audio settings. I also have the latest TMT5 but haven't tried yet as I have no problems with TMT3 at all.
Hi Gunblade!. Happy? hehehe
Bro, the tutorial for MPC-HC with ffdshow to bitstream HD audio (http://www.mediasmartserver.net/2010/02/02/guide-setting-up-bitstreaming-with-your-windows-7-htpc-part-i/) I was reading preferred Realtek ATI HDMI Audio drivers. So I just followed that. Somehow I had problems with the latest build of MPC-HC so I reverted to using PowerDVD10 in the meantime.
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Bro, the tutorial for MPC-HC with ffdshow to bitstream HD audio (http://www.mediasmartserver.net/2010/02/02/guide-setting-up-bitstreaming-with-your-windows-7-htpc-part-i/) I was reading preferred Realtek ATI HDMI Audio drivers. So I just followed that. Somehow I had problems with the latest build of MPC-HC so I reverted to using PowerDVD10 in the meantime.
Yeah but I read somewhere that Realtek HDMI driver MAY have issues with PDVD and TMT3. Also, that tutorial may have preceded the latest Catalyst driver...hence perhaps HD audio bitstreaming has been fully covered by Catalyst since the 5xxx series was released. Can you try to remove Realtek ATI HDMI Driver first and rely solely on Catalyst 10.6? Cheers!
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Yeah but I read somewhere that Realtek HDMI driver MAY have issues with PDVD and TMT3. Also, that tutorial may have preceded the latest Catalyst driver...hence perhaps HD audio bitstreaming has been fully covered by Catalyst since the 5xxx series was released. Can you try to remove Realtek ATI HDMI Driver first and rely solely on Catalyst 10.6? Cheers!
I uninstalled Realtek and installed the latest ATI Catalyst HDMI Audio driver. I selected ATI HD Audio device. When I clicked on configure, the choice was only 2 channel stereo for speakers. On Realtek, there was 2 channel, 5.1, 7.1. When I clicked on Properties then Supported Formats, it says "No Uncompressed Format supported". On Realtek, there was DD, DTS, DTS-HD, DDPlus, DTS-MA.
Anyway, I still played some files using PDVD10. While playing a BD, information was enabled and it shows that the Audio is Dolby TrueHD and Audio Output is LPCM. When I ran through the surround options of the receiver, MultiCH wasn't displayed. It only displayed the analog audio options such as Dolby Prologic 2, Neural THX 7.1, etc. There wasn't even DD/DTS. :-\
I played MKVs using PowerDVD. In the ONscreen info, the audio showed DTS and Audio Output: Unknown. In the receiver, only the analog audio options were displayed and no DD/DTS.
I played AVI files with only 2channel audio. The sound and dialogues had an echo. ???
Reverted back to the Realtek ATI HDMI Audio driver but It didn't go back to the previous settings. :'(
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I have a 5450(Sparkle I think) that has no problem bitstreaming HD audio(dtsHD and trueHD) using tmt3. As far as I can remember, I didn't install any additional software/driver to get this running.
In the playback devices, mine was set to output using ATI HDMI audio. I also make sure the receiver is on and switched to the proper source before turning on tmt3
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I have a 5450(Sparkle I think) that has no problem bitstreaming HD audio(dtsHD and trueHD) using tmt3. As far as I can remember, I didn't install any additional software/driver to get this running.
In the playback devices, mine was set to output using ATI HDMI audio. I also make sure the receiver is on and switched to the proper source before turning on tmt3
Did you install any patch for TMT3?
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I uninstalled Realtek and installed the latest ATI Catalyst HDMI Audio driver. I selected ATI HD Audio device. When I clicked on configure, the choice was only 2 channel stereo for speakers. On Realtek, there was 2 channel, 5.1, 7.1. When I clicked on Properties then Supported Formats, it says "No Uncompressed Format supported". On Realtek, there was DD, DTS, DTS-HD, DDPlus, DTS-MA.
Anyway, I still played some files using PDVD10. While playing a BD, information was enabled and it shows that the Audio is Dolby TrueHD and Audio Output is LPCM. When I ran through the surround options of the receiver, MultiCH wasn't displayed. It only displayed the analog audio options such as Dolby Prologic 2, Neural THX 7.1, etc. There wasn't even DD/DTS. :-\
I played MKVs using PowerDVD. In the ONscreen info, the audio showed DTS and Audio Output: Unknown. In the receiver, only the analog audio options were displayed and no DD/DTS.
I played AVI files with only 2channel audio. The sound and dialogues had an echo. ???
Reverted back to the Realtek ATI HDMI Audio driver but It didn't go back to the previous settings. :'(
i suppose your connection is like this: pc>>avr>>tv
try to power the avr first, wait for like 5 secs, then turn on the tv, wait again and then power on the pc..
all the supported formats should appear now. i usually see the "stereo" only support if my avr is off (off but active standby) and of course, the tv is on.. hth sir
btw, im using 4650 withe realtek ati hdmi driver
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i suppose your connection is like this: pc>>avr>>tv
try to power the avr first, wait for like 5 secs, then turn on the tv, wait again and then power on the pc..
all the supported formats should appear now. i usually see the "stereo" only support if my avr is off (off but active standby) and of course, the tv is on.. hth sir
btw, im using 4650 withe realtek ati hdmi driver
Yes. The connection is right. I always turn on both the AVR and TV before turning on the PC.
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Did you install any patch for TMT3?
I remember updating it since the new update had fixes for hd audio i think
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Sa kasamaang palad, bumigay ang HTPC ko last weekend. Hanap pa ako time para ayusin. I suspect Mobo may problem. Baka kailangan i-RMA. If board nga may problem, I might go 880G para puwede hybrid crossfirex with the 5450 (sana with USB3 if available). Pero I'll need to upgrade to DDR3 mems too. Hassle...
Got myself the Emaxx AMD880G-FXN today, since verified na bumigay na yung Gigabyte 780G ko. The FXN (Fusion) board is cool, kasi it will accomodate AM2+ or AM3 proc, DDR2 or 3 mem. So board lang talaga pinalitan ko, and retained my old AM2+ and 4Gb DDR2. Upside is nagamit ko na ang Hybrid CrossfireX of the 880G with my HD5450. Pero balik tweaking uli ako. Dolby Digital and DTS lang ang supported formats na nakikita sa HDMI HD Audio output properties. Now I need to figure out how to add DD TrueHD and DTS-MA back into the supported formats list. Ok na rin, quick and cheap fix. Benta ko na 780G board ko once ma-RMA.
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Got myself the Emaxx AMD880G-FXN today, since verified na bumigay na yung Gigabyte 780G ko. The FXN (Fusion) board is cool, kasi it will accomodate AM2+ or AM3 proc, DDR2 or 3 mem. So board lang talaga pinalitan ko, and retained my old AM2+ and 4Gb DDR2. Upside is nagamit ko na ang Hybrid CrossfireX of the 880G with my HD5450. Pero balik tweaking uli ako. Dolby Digital and DTS lang ang supported formats na nakikita sa HDMI HD Audio output properties. Now I need to figure out how to add DD TrueHD and DTS-MA back into the supported formats list. Ok na rin, quick and cheap fix. Benta ko na 780G board ko once ma-RMA.
Good to know na mobo lang yung problem sir pao. Pashare na lang ng tweaks mo para maoutput ng HD5450 ang TrueHD and DTS-MA audio through HDMI. Thanks ;D
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I was able to output DTS HD on my Onkyo 608 with MPC HC through HDMI audio output of HD5450 ;D
I used ffdshow audio decoder in the external filter...
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I was able to output DTS HD on my Onkyo 608 with MPC HC through HDMI audio output of HD5450 ;D
I used ffdshow audio decoder in the external filter...
What video driver did you use?
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What video driver did you use?
Just the one that came with the catalyst. i didn't install the realtek audio driver...
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Yehey!!! :D
Ayos na ayos talaga HD5450! Sulit!
(http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss208/wetcute/210320111065.jpg)
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Congrats! :)
Kahit sa Win7, just playing video with the right sound set-up sobra hirap pa din ???
Pero, how can you beat the cost using HD 5450 7.1 na :D
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Galeng nga ni sir Louie, congrats sir.
Yung akin, nag-upgrade na ako nang Chipset to 880G and Hybrid Crossfire na with my HD5450, pero DD and DTS lang ang supported formats. Newest HDMI HD Audio driver pa yan, 2.58, tapos newest CCC rin 10.2 yata? Ewan kung sobrang low tech lang talaga nung Emaxx 880G FXN motherboard. Kailangan ko yata fresh format and install (start from zero).
Buti pa yung Gigabyte 780G board ko dati, lumalabas yung TrueHD and DTS-MA sa supported formats.
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Thanks Sir Francis and Sir Pao :)
Actually wala naman ako special na ginawa, hehe. I just followed this guide http://www.mediasmartserver.net/2010/02/02/guide-setting-up-bitstreaming-with-your-windows-7-htpc-part-i/
But I didn't install the Realtek audio driver. Nag-update lang ako nang Catalyst from ATi. Then yun napalabas ko yung DTS HD-MA sa isang media file ko with DTS HD audio. ;D
But when using VLC PCM lang lumalabas. Also tried playing Avatar 1080p with DTS-HD, around 20GB size. And it played well sa MPC-HC. Wala choppiness, smooth naman :)
I will try to test it again this weekend. May alam pa ba kyo sirs na makukuhaan ng sample media files with DTS HD or True HD na mallit lang? Tagal kasi magdownload ng full movie eh, hehe ;D
Thanks!
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And also take note na dapat na pareho ng bit(32 or 64) yung Media Player Classic and ffdshow otherwise hindi makikita ng MPC yung ffdshow audio decoder sa external filters. Yan yun una kong naging problem. Gamit ko kasi Win7 x64 OS tapos pang 32bit pla yung ffdshow ko kaya hindi madetect nung MPC.
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update...
Just wana share. I just downloaded Animusic HD with DTS HD audio and tried MPC-HC but unfortunately very choppy ang playback halos useless na but in my AVR nadedetect na yung DTS-HD MSTR. When I tried PowerDvd 10 Mark 2 smooth ang playback but DTS lang yung detected ng AVR kahit yung audio output mode is "non-decoded Dolby Digital/DTS audio to external device". I also tried TMT5 but PCM yung detected ng AVR. Bakit kaya hindi maoutput ng PDVD10 ang DTS-HD? Meron pa kayang tweaks ang MPC-HC para maging smooth ang playback? ???
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Sir:
I think the HD 5450 requires new device drivers from software providers. Choppy would likely mean the HD 5450 new drivers are not being used / recognized by the software - look at CPU utilization, it shouldnt spike so high as the graphics card should be doing the decoding work.
I know in PC / Graphics forums the latest PDVD supports the latest catalyst drivers from AMD assuming the PDVD version is not the OEM version as the OEM version doesnt support HD audio. It may be just looking at the settings of PDVD for now.
Francis
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Again just want to share... :)
I was able to play my 1080p with DTS-HD mkv's smoothly through Windows Media Player ;D
Here's what I did. First I uninstalled all the codecs (ffdshow, CoreAVC, etc.), all the media players(PDVD10, TMT3, MPC-HC). Then restarted my PC. After that I downloaded and installed the latest ATI Catalyst which is the 11.3 version. Then I downloaded and installed Shark007 codec pack and x64 components since I'm using Win7 x64 OS from http://shark007.net/ (http://shark007.net/)
In the Shark007 application I just ticked(checked) Shark007 SUGGESTED settings. Then viola!!! My Animusic mkv file played smoothly with DTS-HD output ;D
Hope this will help you guys too in bitstreaming HD audio with smooth playback.
*Note: I can't still play smoothly my Animusic HD mkv on MPC-HC when I installed it. But I'm satisfied with the Windows Media Player already ;D
I installed MPC-HC x86 version from http://shark007.net/tools.html (http://shark007.net/tools.html) and it can handle the file well. It played smoothly too ;D
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I'm glad to finally see this Dolby True HD on my AVR... :)
(http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss208/wetcute/010420111105.jpg)
Mas ok ang 32bit softwares like MPC-HC. This player can handle both DTS-HD and TRUE HD well.
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Hi everybody I would like to share my new rig. MSI e-350 Fusion APU. Luckily I was able to bitstream DTS-HD Master Audio and Dolby TrueHD using MPC-HC.
(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd381/nogo4427/IMG_1124.jpg)
(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd381/nogo4427/IMG_1127.jpg)
Hope I posted the pics right.
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testing an HD5450 card and DXVA.. playing Final Fantasy VII - Advent Children, 1080p MKV (10.9GB).. RAM usage did not exceed 2GB, including all other system processes running in the background..
HTPC Spec:
Intel Pentium Dual Core E5400
Asus HD5450 SILENT 1GB DDR3 Low Profile
4GB DDR3 RAM
KMPlayer with DXVA On
(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forums/KMP_DXVA_On.jpg)
KMPlayer with DXVA Off
(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forums/KMP_DXVA_Off.jpg)
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the video card used..
(http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/AMD_Series/EAH5450_SILENTDI1GD3LP/websites/global/products/josSesOqQ4beYp0n/P_500.jpg)
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Guys,
Natry nyo na ba online games with our HD5450 like Cabal, Dota, Special Force, etc...?
Thanks :)
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ser how much po yung nagastos nyo sa specs nyo?
Intel Pentium Dual Core E5400
Asus HD5450 SILENT 1GB DDR3 Low Profile
4GB DDR3 RAM
kaya rin po ba nito ser yung mga latest pcgames?
salamas
testing an HD5450 card and DXVA.. playing Final Fantasy VII - Advent Children, 1080p MKV (10.9GB).. RAM usage did not exceed 2GB, including all other system processes running in the background..
HTPC Spec:
Intel Pentium Dual Core E5400
Asus HD5450 SILENT 1GB DDR3 Low Profile
4GB DDR3 RAM
KMPlayer with DXVA On
(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forums/KMP_DXVA_On.jpg)
KMPlayer with DXVA Off
(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forums/KMP_DXVA_Off.jpg)
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@erj2daizzo: i bought my HTPC last Jan 2010 pa. it is a Compaq CQ4028 Slim PC.
(http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/images/emea/Compaq-Presario-CQ4000-Desktop-PC-series_190x170.jpg)
Intel Pentium Dual Core E5400
ATI HD4350 512MB DDR2 Low-Profile
4GB DDR3 RAM
i bought the Asus HD5450 SILENT 1GB DDR3 Low-Profile last April 2011 as an upgrade. just check TipidPC for the price.
being an HTPC video card, it is not meant for gaming. you can play old games at full details and some new games at low details.
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ideal HTPC cards are low-powered, low-heat, low-noise (preferably with passive heatsink), and low-profile (to fit slim cases)..
ATI HD5450 LP: ~6W idle, 19W max
ATI HD5570 LP: ~10W idle, 43W max
ATI HD6450 LP: ~9W idle, 27W max
ATI HD6570 LP: ~11W idle, 60W max
NVIDIA G210 LP: ~9W idle, 31W max
NVIDIA GT430 LP: ~49W max
NVIDIA GT440 LP: ~7W idle, 65W max
NVIDIA GT520 LP: ~29W max
compared with gaming cards..
ATI HD5770: ~18W idle, 108W max
ATI HD6870: ~17W idle, 163W max
ATI HD6970: ~22W idle, 287W max
NVIDIA GTX460 (768M): ~14W idle, 146W max
NVIDIA GTX560 Ti: ~14W idle, 202W max
NVIDIA GTX580: ~33W idle, 317W max