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Title: Ipod to toslink or digital coax or HDMI
Post by: fattyacid on Jun 02, 2011 at 09:51 AM
Do any of our saers know how to connect ipod to AVR(no ipod link) via toslink or digital coax? I know some ipod dock can do it, but what model is the best for the money and how much? Or can it be done DIY? Thanks.
Title: Re: Ipod to toslink or digital coax
Post by: dsbf on Jun 12, 2011 at 07:09 PM
Try wadis 170i and the newer wadia171.
Title: Re: Ipod to toslink or digital coax
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Jun 17, 2011 at 07:37 AM
WADIA iTransport 170 but I dont know w/c store it here ;)
Title: Re: Ipod to toslink or digital coax
Post by: Stagea on Jun 17, 2011 at 08:56 PM
Audio-Visual Driver carries Wadia products. I think they have the 171i Transport and the matching 151 PowerDAC on display (available for audition).
Title: Re: Ipod to toslink or digital coax
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Jun 18, 2011 at 07:17 AM
Quote from: Stagea on Jun 17, 2011 at 08:56 PM
Audio-Visual Driver carries Wadia products. I think they have the 171i Transport and the matching 151 PowerDAC on display (available for audition).
any chance to know the price range Sir Stagea? TIA ;)
Title: Re: Ipod to toslink or digital coax
Post by: Stagea on Jun 18, 2011 at 12:13 PM
Quote from: at_sunset_blvd on Jun 18, 2011 at 07:17 AM
any chance to know the price range Sir Stagea? TIA ;)

I don't remember how much they quoted me for that pair.

Please contact them if you're interested. Arnold and Hansen are very helpful. :)
I think they still use these numbers:  638 - 8480 / 632 - 7984
Title: Re: Ipod to toslink or digital coax
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Jun 20, 2011 at 05:12 PM
Quote from: Stagea on Jun 18, 2011 at 12:13 PM
I don't remember how much they quoted me for that pair.

Please contact them if you're interested. Arnold and Hansen are very helpful. :)
I think they still use these numbers:  638 - 8480 / 632 - 7984
Ok thanks very much for the numbers :)
Title: Re: Ipod to toslink or digital coax
Post by: fattyacid on Jun 22, 2011 at 08:02 AM
Quote from: at_sunset_blvd on Jun 17, 2011 at 07:37 AM
WADIA iTransport 170 but I dont know w/c store it here ;)

Oh thanks. Ss net its around 350usd or 14K :o. Kaunti na lang I can buy a used AVR w/ that w/ an ipod dock.
Title: Re: Ipod to toslink or digital coax or HDMI
Post by: fattyacid on Aug 04, 2011 at 05:52 PM
(http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/public/n6e197rVOYaBQ596wd-Ie_KKT-Bp1_2Ti4hBEynlbh_2ULm8TydwANViCw93GEiQCebK_iMWAQAFME7nlIij65n3H9occ6kDEu1reoAcRTLvxKhr9gc8c0QFxBBPNwBB)

ipod to HDMI adapter

Will this work? Im not interested in video, just the audio output.
Title: Re: Ipod to toslink or digital coax or HDMI
Post by: sidewinder on Aug 08, 2011 at 09:36 PM
interested in this topic also :)
Title: Re: Ipod to toslink or digital coax or HDMI
Post by: uvax on Aug 09, 2011 at 07:32 AM
Why not just use a 3.5mm plug cable to the AVR's line in? I could be wrong but based on the pinouts of the ipod connector I see it only has analog left and right line outs. Here's the pinouts I'm referring to:

http://pinouts.ru/PortableDevices/ipod_pinout.shtml (http://pinouts.ru/PortableDevices/ipod_pinout.shtml)

Maybe the reason why the available ipod to toslink converters are so expensive is because of the additional analog to digital converter circuity to do the conversion. Honestly I don't see the point of using toslink unless the receiver has no audio line in.
Title: Re: Ipod to toslink or digital coax or HDMI
Post by: fattyacid on Aug 09, 2011 at 08:40 AM
Quote from: uvax on Aug 09, 2011 at 07:32 AM
Why not just use a 3.5mm plug cable to the AVR's line in? I could be wrong but based on the pinouts of the ipod connector I see it only has analog left and right line outs. Here's the pinouts I'm referring to:

http://pinouts.ru/PortableDevices/ipod_pinout.shtml (http://pinouts.ru/PortableDevices/ipod_pinout.shtml)

Maybe the reason why the available ipod to toslink converters are so expensive is because of the additional analog to digital converter circuity to do the conversion. Honestly I don't see the point of using toslink unless the receiver has no audio line in.

Woah is this true? How come I can play ipod data in itunes of my laptop connected through USB?
Title: Re: Ipod to toslink or digital coax or HDMI
Post by: uvax on Aug 09, 2011 at 11:06 AM
Quote from: fattyacid on Aug 09, 2011 at 08:40 AM
Woah is this true? How come I can play ipod data in itunes of my laptop connected through USB?

Check the pinouts. You'll see USB data lines. When you connect your ipod to your laptop it will appear like a usb flash drive. Itunes can play music stored in the ipod the same way it can play music off of a usb flash drive.
Title: Re: Ipod to toslink or digital coax or HDMI
Post by: fattyacid on Aug 09, 2011 at 11:44 AM
Quote from: uvax on Aug 09, 2011 at 07:32 AM
Why not just use a 3.5mm plug cable to the AVR's line in? I could be wrong but based on the pinouts of the ipod connector I see it only has analog left and right line outs. Here's the pinouts I'm referring to:

http://pinouts.ru/PortableDevices/ipod_pinout.shtml (http://pinouts.ru/PortableDevices/ipod_pinout.shtml)

Maybe the reason why the available ipod to toslink converters are so expensive is because of the additional analog to digital converter circuity to do the conversion. Honestly I don't see the point of using toslink unless the receiver has no audio line in.

The reason I asked because I wanted to output my ipod music data, which I have collected over the years, to an AVR digitally to avoid using the lossy analog transmission. Methinks the docks with digital out does not use ADC.
Title: Re: Ipod to toslink or digital coax or HDMI
Post by: uvax on Aug 09, 2011 at 01:42 PM
My reading from the various write-ups of the Wadia is that it accesses the aac file stored in the ipod and then converts it into a digital audio bitstream that is fed to your audio equipment. This is a digital to digital conversion so you're correct that there is no DAC. In a manner of speaking those digital docks are akin to NMTs that uses your ipod as a glorified external disk drive.

If your ipod music files aren't DRM protected you might as well buy an NMT and transfer all your music files into it. You can buy a PCH A210 for the price of the Wadia quoted above. I've converted all my CDs into lossless flac and using it to play my music.
Title: Re: Ipod to toslink or digital coax
Post by: markcrenz on Aug 09, 2011 at 04:56 PM
Quote from: fattyacid on Jun 22, 2011 at 08:02 AM
Oh thanks. Ss net its around 350usd or 14K :o. Kaunti na lang I can buy a used AVR w/ that w/ an ipod dock.
agree!