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Home Theater => Sources => HTPCs => Topic started by: plapoy on Jul 25, 2011 at 01:57 PM
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Hi All,
After doing a lot of searching on the net. I decided not to buy an xtreamer ultra and just rebuild my desktop pc for home theater and gaming purposes. I think i can save more money on this route. Kindly help me choose.
What i have now from my old pc that i can use:
Processor: Pentium 2.66 Dual Core D805
Memory: 750MB DDRAM (512+256mb) (This one needs an upgrade. ;D)
PSU: 500w
Here's what i have in mind:
Motherboard: preferably micro/mini ITX with small footprint.
Graphics Card: can handle hd movies 720p/1080p (w/ hdmi output) and decent games like Call of Duty
Sound Card: Can handle HD audio like dts-hd, dd true hd.
Memory: 2-4g ddr3
Casing: micro ITX or any decent casing with small footprint (preferably horizontal casing)
HDD: 1TB-2TB SATA or SATA3
Budget is 15k-20k
Any input will highly appreciated.. Thanks.. ;)
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sir what kind of games do you want to play po?
to be honest.. i think... ang magagamit nalang po is case and psu..
medyo hindi napo updated ang parts eh.. @ 15t masuggest ko lang po is.. sa sunod nalang kumuha ng video card
i would suggest an i3, a mobo... h61 h67 or Z68 and 4gb ram maybe a 2tb hd nadin since it will be an htpc.. kailangan mo ng malaking storage...
try niyo po muna graphics ng i3... its not dedicated its not hard core gaming but for light gaming pwede napo.. @15t po thats the best na naiisip ko.. power efficient yet powerful
ofcourse antay nadin tayo suggestions ng iba:D
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sir what kind of games do you want to play po?
to be honest.. i think... ang magagamit nalang po is case and psu..
medyo hindi napo updated ang parts eh.. @ 15t masuggest ko lang po is.. sa sunod nalang kumuha ng video card
i would suggest an i3, a mobo... h61 h67 or Z68 and 4gb ram maybe a 2tb hd nadin since it will be an htpc.. kailangan mo ng malaking storage...
try niyo po muna graphics ng i3... its not dedicated its not hard core gaming but for light gaming pwede napo.. @15t po thats the best na naiisip ko.. power efficient yet powerful
ofcourse antay nadin tayo suggestions ng iba:D
Salamat sir AC sa suggestion.. actually more on Call of Duty and Need for Speed lang nilalaro ko.. basta racing at barilan lang... i've tried the world in conflict kasi maganda graphics nya..
I have an I5 laptop with ATI Radeon 5470 VC.. so far kaya naman lahat ng games na nilalaro ko.. hindi pa nya ako binibigo.. nalalaro ko pa sila ng full graphics.. kaya lang nagdecide ako mg htpc route kasi maliit lang yung hd ng laptop ko saka masyado na nagagamit.. Mainit kasi sya pag naglalaro ako..
I'll check with those specs sir. baka pwede na rin sya.. mejo mahal pa kasi ang I series na processor..
Add ko lang din sir. gusto ko sana yung vc yung kaya mag decode ng 2nd gen na audio like DTSHD and TrueHD.. kahit hindi na 3d capable ok lang sakin.. ano2 po ba masa suggest nyo?.. More on ATI Radeon kasi ako eh.. hindi ko pa natry ang NVIDIA..
yung sa motherboard ok na rin yung atx type kasi nakakita nako ng casing ng silverstone for htpc.. mejo pricey lang.. ;) tama po kayo na hindi kasya ang 20k for that kaya unti untiin ko na lang po siguro.. :D
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hindi po ako expert sa ganyan... antay natin mga masters..
kay master "j" lang ako humingi ng suggestion.. mukhang happy naman ako sa naging final choice..
nung una kukunin ko dapat is hd6850 but after suggestions kinuha ko is gtx460
nvidia po 3d ready na... dtshd nadin po... kayalang hindi pa kaya highest settings sa 1080p sa last game na nilaro ko (call of duty 6 yata.. yung about parang cuba russia)... meron naman higher models pero di na kinasiya ng budget ko.. hehe if gusto niyo highest settings palagi.. you might need gtx560...
i know you prefer ati and i respect that.. but nabasa ko din po bagay sa htpcs natin nvidia.. dahil mababa ang idle nito... gtx460 ko is 11watts only.. kung tama ako ganun din idle ng gtx560...
nice na pala laptop niyo.. asus k43? wishing for one din kasi.. pero no budget.. hehe tsaka na..
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hindi po ako expert sa ganyan... antay natin mga masters..
kay master "j" lang ako humingi ng suggestion.. mukhang happy naman ako sa naging final choice..
nung una kukunin ko dapat is hd6850 but after suggestions kinuha ko is gtx460
nvidia po 3d ready na... dtshd nadin po... kayalang hindi pa kaya highest settings sa 1080p sa last game na nilaro ko (call of duty 6 yata.. yung about parang cuba russia)... meron naman higher models pero di na kinasiya ng budget ko.. hehe if gusto niyo highest settings palagi.. you might need gtx560...
i know you prefer ati and i respect that.. but nabasa ko din po bagay sa htpcs natin nvidia.. dahil mababa ang idle nito... gtx460 ko is 11watts only.. kung tama ako ganun din idle ng gtx560...
nice na pala laptop niyo.. asus k43? wishing for one din kasi.. pero no budget.. hehe tsaka na..
Ok salamat sir.. ngayon iconsider ko na ang Nvidia dahil sa input nyo. ;) by the way i'm using Dell Inspiron 15R with I5 M450 2.40ghz, ATI Radeon 5470 1G DDR5, 4GB DDR3 and 320G HDD. I got it sa SG sir for a fraction of a price.
Ok na sya sakin for htpc kaya lang sobrang naawa nako kasi pag nanonood kami movies pag weekend. average of 5 movies.. then music naman after.. sobra pong init na nya. halos wala na syang patayan kasi ginagamit ko din sya na pandl ng movies. baka kasi bumigay sya agad kaya gusto magbuo ulit ng pc..
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Ok salamat sir.. ngayon iconsider ko na ang Nvidia dahil sa input nyo. ;) by the way i'm using Dell Inspiron 15R with I5 M450 2.40ghz, ATI Radeon 5470 1G DDR5, 4GB DDR3 and 320G HDD. I got it sa SG sir for a fraction of a price.
Ok na sya sakin for htpc kaya lang sobrang naawa nako kasi pag nanonood kami movies pag weekend. average of 5 movies.. then music naman after.. sobra pong init na nya. halos wala na syang patayan kasi ginagamit ko din sya na pandl ng movies. baka kasi bumigay sya agad kaya gusto magbuo ulit ng pc..
If AMD talaga prefer nyo and hindi naman importante ang 3D (whether sa movies and especially games). Ok na yun AMD 6570 or 6670 depending on your budget. It can play 720/1080p and bitstream DTS-HD and Dolby True HD and play games at medium resolutions with lower effects settings. Pwede rin naman sya sa 3D Bluray the main advantage for Nvidia is for 3D stereo gaming because meron syang Nvidia 3D vision much easier to setup games.
Hope this helps.
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Opo sir firestorm, tama po kayo mejo hindi po importante yung 3D sakin ngayon.. wala po kasi ako balak mg 3D na route for now.. yung DTS-HD and True HD lang po ang importante sakin para sa mga movies ko. Sa games naman po bihira na po ako maglaro ngayon. Pero gusto ko po full graphics po ang games pag naglalaro ako.. budget po siguro is 10k.. wala na po ako idea kung magkano na ngayon ang mga VC.. ;D magkano na po ba yung 6570 at 6670 ngayon sa market?.
Add ko lang din po.. kung ano maganda motherboard para sa kanila.. yung hindi na po ako magupgrade ng 2-3yrs.. para tipid ;D
Salamat po sa input sir.. ;)
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ayan na pala si master "j".. hehe:D
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Opo sir firestorm, tama po kayo mejo hindi po importante yung 3D sakin ngayon.. wala po kasi ako balak mg 3D na route for now.. yung DTS-HD and True HD lang po ang importante sakin para sa mga movies ko. Sa games naman po bihira na po ako maglaro ngayon. Pero gusto ko po full graphics po ang games pag naglalaro ako.. budget po siguro is 10k.. wala na po ako idea kung magkano na ngayon ang mga VC.. ;D magkano na po ba yung 6570 at 6670 ngayon sa market?.
Add ko lang din po.. kung ano maganda motherboard para sa kanila.. yung hindi na po ako magupgrade ng 2-3yrs.. para tipid ;D
Salamat po sa input sir.. ;)
Kung 10K budget nyo for the video card only I think you could already get a 6850 meron pang sukli if you add a bit more 6870 na. Are you using a full HD display/monitor? Kasi for newer graphics intensive games you might not be able to enable all detail settings at full HD resolution maybe turn down anti-aliasing to make framerates acceptable. for older games there should be no problem pero there are always exceptions to the rule. Palagi naman meron newer games to max out your current video card so I suggest get the best card you can afford with your budget.
Regarding sa motherboard, it will really depend on what CPU you choose to get? If meron ka nang CPU napili just get a motherboard that supports it and choose a well known brand like Asus or MSI unless meron particular feature kang hinahanap sa board that may limit your choices.
Pero if you are planning to use a small htpc case I think you might have a hard time fitting in a full sized 6850 or 6870 so I suggest you do some calculations first before actually buying anything na hindi pwede ibalik.
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Kung 10K budget nyo for the video card only I think you could already get a 6850 meron pang sukli if you add a bit more 6870 na. Are you using a full HD display/monitor? Kasi for newer graphics intensive games you might not be able to enable all detail settings at full HD resolution maybe turn down anti-aliasing to make framerates acceptable. for older games there should be no problem pero there are always exceptions to the rule. Palagi naman meron newer games to max out your current video card so I suggest get the best card you can afford with your budget.
Regarding sa motherboard, it will really depend on what CPU you choose to get? If meron ka nang CPU napili just get a motherboard that supports it and choose a well known brand like Asus or MSI unless meron particular feature kang hinahanap sa board that may limit your choices.
Pero if you are planning to use a small htpc case I think you might have a hard time fitting in a full sized 6850 or 6870 so I suggest you do some calculations first before actually buying anything na hindi pwede ibalik.
Ok sir salamat po.. yung display ko po is HD ready na plasma po.. upto 720p lang po yung kaya nya.. Sa processor naman po base po sa suggestion ni sir AC ok na daw po yung I3 for that. With regards sa mobo naman po.. ang natry ko pa lang po is ASRock and it serves me i think more than 5 yrs.. so satisfy na din po ako sa kanya. but will try your recommendations. by the way full size na mobo na rin balak ko since nakakita nako ng case na silverstone for htpc na locally available s tpc.
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Ok sir salamat po.. yung display ko po is HD ready na plasma po.. upto 720p lang po yung kaya nya.. Sa processor naman po base po sa suggestion ni sir AC ok na daw po yung I3 for that. With regards sa mobo naman po.. ang natry ko pa lang po is ASRock and it serves me i think more than 5 yrs.. so satisfy na din po ako sa kanya. but will try your recommendations. by the way full size na mobo na rin balak ko since nakakita nako ng case na silverstone for htpc na locally available s tpc.
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Since 720p yun display mo you should be able run almost all games with high detail settings turned on a 6850 or 6870 card. Satisfied ka na with your experience using Asrock so just stick with it my belief is if it ain't broke why fix it. Going with a full size mboard and casing I guess you won't have any problems anymore with whatever parts you decide on. Sige balitaan mo kami dito kung nabuo mo na yun htpc mo.
BTW, yun 5470 ng laptop mo doesn't support HD audio bitstreaming? I'm not too familiar kasi with mobile video chips.
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Since 720p yun display mo you should be able run almost all games with high detail settings turned on a 6850 or 6870 card. Satisfied ka na with your experience using Asrock so just stick with it my belief is if it ain't broke why fix it. Going with a full size mboard and casing I guess you won't have any problems anymore with whatever parts you decide on. Sige balitaan mo kami dito kung nabuo mo na yun htpc mo.
BTW, yun 5470 ng laptop mo doesn't support HD audio bitstreaming? I'm not too familiar kasi with mobile video chips.
ok sir thanks for all your input.. magagamit to in building my future htpc.. baka matagalan pa po yung pagbubuo kasi i'm doing a research parts by parts para talagang satisfied ako sa performance at hindi ko pagsisihan mga nabiliko sa huli.. mejo mi kamahalan din kasi ang mga components kaya dapat sigurado talaga. kaya magagamit ko yung mga binigay nyo para iresearch ang pros and cons nila.. :)
with regards to your question on HD audio support, base po dito sa link http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-5470.23698.0.html (ftp://http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-5470.23698.0.html) kaya po nya mag bitstream ng hd audio.. but i've never tried this since most of my movies are in DTS and DD lang for now.. hindi pa kasi ulit ako nakakabili ng hdd..
salamat po ulit.. ;)
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ok sir thanks for all your input.. magagamit to in building my future htpc.. baka matagalan pa po yung pagbubuo kasi i'm doing a research parts by parts para talagang satisfied ako sa performance at hindi ko pagsisihan mga nabiliko sa huli.. mejo mi kamahalan din kasi ang mga components kaya dapat sigurado talaga. kaya magagamit ko yung mga binigay nyo para iresearch ang pros and cons nila.. :)
with regards to your question on HD audio support, base po dito sa link http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-5470.23698.0.html (ftp://http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-5470.23698.0.html) kaya po nya mag bitstream ng hd audio.. but i've never tried this since most of my movies are in DTS and DD lang for now.. hindi pa kasi ulit ako nakakabili ng hdd..
salamat po ulit.. ;)
Tama yan research lang ng research and palaging meron mga bagong cpu and video cards na lumalabas. Besides ok na yun laptop mo for everything you need right now medyo kailangan lang bigyan ng konting rest in between movie viewings.
I also read from your setup thread na you currently have fronts and a subwoofer. I guess mas importante na mabuo muna yun 5.1 setup before thinking of building your htpc.
Thanks.
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Tama yan research lang ng research and palaging meron mga bagong cpu and video cards na lumalabas. Besides ok na yun laptop mo for everything you need right now medyo kailangan lang bigyan ng konting rest in between movie viewings.
I also read from your setup thread na you currently have fronts and a subwoofer. I guess mas importante na mabuo muna yun 5.1 setup before thinking of building your htpc.
Thanks.
Yes sir.. ;) yun po muna ang unahin ko.. specifically yung center ko.. kahit huli na ng surrounds.. by the way post ko na lang po dito kung mi update na for the htpc setup.. thanks.. ;)
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Just note that high end video cards consume huge amounts of wattage! I think its like as good as an aircon in consumption when your playing games :D Then you may do crossfire and that takes your savings away from inverter type aircons or worse...
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Just note that high end video cards consume huge amounts of wattage! I think its like as good as an aircon in consumption when your playing games :D Then you may do crossfire and that takes your savings away from inverter type aircons or worse...
Whoa?.. can you enlighten me on this sir FrancisD and also the crossfire thing. what if i'm only watching movies?. do they consume as much as when i'm playing games?. Thanks for pointing this out.
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Video cards only consume a lot of power when they're under full load. I think movies won't stress out the video card by even half its capacity so it won't consume as much as when you're playing a demanding game.
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Video cards only consume a lot of power when they're under full load. I think movies won't stress out the video card by even half its capacity so it won't consume as much as when you're playing a demanding game.
Ok sir boing.. Thanks for stressing this out. by the way i'll check the power consumption and idle consumption of the VG i'm going to buy.
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no one recommends here amd llano? its cheap and it has a build in video card.
his budget is around 15k-20k.
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no one recommends here amd llano? its cheap and it has a build in video card.
his budget is around 15k-20k.
can you give the ideal specs for the build sir using the AMD llano? i'm trying to build an htpc
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@plapoy
High end video cards consume less when not used in full. Depending on the card but for now its not linear. Some cards now have some sort of power saving mode but more efficient cards still consume less power. If you have a media streamer, use that for movies as PC even with relatively efficient set-ups usually consume more power.
You have to decide whats the most important to you, power or efficiency. There are power efficient cards with adequate capability to play current games thats usually for the HTPC crowd ( Which is what I use a GT 240 DDR5) or a power user with the most bang for the buck FPS in games but consumes more power.
You also have to list the games you want to play and at what resolutions and quality you play them. Most games will play with entry level cards but at lower resolutions and quality.
Although it is alright every now and then to splurge and buy the best there is, this kind of self-indulgence (combined with heavy utilization) is bad news for the electricity bill. While the enthusiast might enjoy limited doses of pixel delicacies on a regular basis and remain rather financially viable, the hardcore gamer with his or her permanent power consumption could noticeably be punished by the electricity companies.
The average user should stay away from high-end graphics cards altogether, because even if those products increase the potential of what can be rendered, the cards remain underutilized most of the time. Even though power consumption remains rather low (due to the amount of time spent idle), the electricity money is still wasted.
Those who decide to get a high-performance graphics card should be aware of the added costs. It is just like buying a car: even if you have just enough money for a Porsche, tires, gas, insurance, and taxes still have to be paid. And if that makes things a bit tighter, driving is less fun.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-consumption-graphics-cards,2849-13.html
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@plapoy
High end video cards consume less when not used in full. Depending on the card but for now its not linear. Some cards now have some sort of power saving mode but more efficient cards still consume less power. If you have a media streamer, use that for movies as PC even with relatively efficient set-ups usually consume more power.
You have to decide whats the most important to you, power or efficiency. There are power efficient cards with adequate capability to play current games thats usually for the HTPC crowd ( Which is what I use a GT 240 DDR5) or a power user with the most bang for the buck FPS in games but consumes more power.
You also have to list the games you want to play and at what resolutions and quality you play them. Most games will play with entry level cards but at lower resolutions and quality.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-consumption-graphics-cards,2849-13.html
You've got a point sir. thanks for that advise sir FrancisD i think now i know what i really need.. it is simply an NMT for my movies.. I'll just use my laptop as my gaming rig for now. a fraction of a cost than building an htpc. maybe soon if my laptop needs an upgrade or i have my own ht room. thanks to the gentlemen for all the suggestions.. ;)
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guys i'm thinking of building a simple htpc and gaming rig nag paquote ako sa pc express and this is what they gave me
intel pentium dual core e 6600 (3.06 ghz) 2mb l2 cache/1066 fbs/45nm lga7 P2,850
msi g41/ddr3/v-4500/s/gb lan matx motherboard 2300
kingston 2gb ddr3 1333mh non ecc 650
lite on3d 430 1gb ddr3 12bit vga dvi hdmi videocard 920
oxygen 03 red/black casing 1280
a4 tech 9300f wireless desktop padless kb + mouse 1100
P11,750
ok na po ba yung mga specs nito or medyo overkill sa requirements ko?meron pa ba kayong ma susuggest na mas murang bilihan?sabi nila mas mura daw sa gilmore,baka may alam kayong shop dun na puede ko mag inquire ng prices pa pm naman po ng contact no.pasensya na po ngayun lang ulit ako mag bubuo ng desktop pc puro laptop lang gamit eh.thanks
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guys i'm thinking of building a simple htpc and gaming rig nag paquote ako sa pc express and this is what they gave me
intel pentium dual core e 6600 (3.06 ghz) 2mb l2 cache/1066 fbs/45nm lga7 P2,850
msi g41/ddr3/v-4500/s/gb lan matx motherboard 2300
kingston 2gb ddr3 1333mh non ecc 650
lite on3d 430 1gb ddr3 12bit vga dvi hdmi videocard 920
oxygen 03 red/black casing 1280
a4 tech 9300f wireless desktop padless kb + mouse 1100
P11,750
ok na po ba yung mga specs nito or medyo overkill sa requirements ko?meron pa ba kayong ma susuggest na mas murang bilihan?sabi nila mas mura daw sa gilmore,baka may alam kayong shop dun na puede ko mag inquire ng prices pa pm naman po ng contact no.pasensya na po ngayun lang ulit ako mag bubuo ng desktop pc puro laptop lang gamit eh.thanks
It's a little cheaper in Gilmore, yes. The graphic card that they included is weak for gaming use, imho. The processor and motherboard are EOL products too.
Go for the G620 at the very least for the processor (the price is the same), and add a tiny bit more for a huge performance leap with a HD 6750 or a GTS 450 3d accelerator.
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+1
minsan po mga shop na ganyan pinupush mga last model.. mahal kasi mga yun... pero wala na masyado may gusto
imho.. i would prefer a new model low end rather than an old model hi end
yung friend ko ganyan din.. 3months ago siguro nagbuo.. nagtanong sakin sinuggest ko G620 or i3... sa huli... di din nakinig sakin... baka nagakala pang nagaahente ako nung mga sinusuggest ko... hindi ko maintindihan bakit c2d ang prinefer niya.. inexplain ko naman ng mabuti na better itong mga ito.. mas mabilis na.. mas matipid pa sa kuryente
mas mababa pa yata kesa gt430 inalok sa kaibigan ko... parang 8400gt or gs... nasa ganun...
kakabuo lang namin last week.. and baka magbuo uli next week for another friend
lagyan ko nalang po ng specs/items yung suggestion ni sir stagea
intel g620 3000
intel i3-2100 5000
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asrock H61 2450
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4gb ddr3 pqi 750
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video too many to suggest... try mo muna without video card...(my dad has an i3... he plays civilization5... hindi super heavy game but... kayang kaya naman.)
casing any (get a branded psu if magkaka video card kana)
keyboard i prefer logitech.. true... mas mahal... pero some of my mouse sa office were from year 2001.. ok pa naman sila.. daily use... nagtipid ako once... nagtry ako cdrking 100php mouse.. iniisip ko... whatda... kung masira edi tapon.. palagi bago... ayun 1 week.. nagcocomplain na sakin mga tao.. nag dodoubleclick magisa.. kaya naging basura... A4tech does last a few months sa office namin... nung huli.. i just bought logitech na mumurahin.. parang 250 or 300 each yata.. yung itim na pang office yata... siguro 2 years na now... wala pa naman nagrerequest ng bago.. hehe
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thanks for the replies sir.will try to canvass again yung mga suggestions nyo.
@AC ok lang din ba manuod ng hi def movies without video cards?thanks
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yes.. kaya po.. kahit 1080p
malakas napo built in video ng new systems ngayon..
the next generation ivybridge.. magiimprove padaw 30% graphics 20% processor
ang problema lang po ng sinuggest ko na setup is.. wala po yang usb3.. kung gusto niyo po ng may usb3.. dagdag po mga 1200php more
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pwede ka mag build ng gaming HTPC sa Silverstone GD06b
specs ko
i5 3570k
gtx 550ti
intel 330 ssd
seagate 500gb
8gb ram
550w
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mga sir. need your assistance. im planning to build a dekstop PC for the kids. pero excuse na rin kay misis para magamit ko siya for my 3d ready projector (acer h5630 nvidia 3D vision). I know that there are a few 3d movies out in the market kaya gagamitin ko lang siya for 3d viewing since I use another palyer for movies. ano suggested niyong specifications na mura.
thanks.
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mga sir. need your assistance. im planning to build a dekstop PC for the kids. pero excuse na rin kay misis para magamit ko siya for my 3d ready projector (acer h5630 nvidia 3D vision). I know that there are a few 3d movies out in the market kaya gagamitin ko lang siya for 3d viewing since I use another palyer for movies. ano suggested niyong specifications na mura.
thanks.
I built one for my boss with a budget of less than 15k, got cheap parts from TPC.com and he's happy with his HTPC.
AM3; Asrock N68-VS3FX
DDR3 Gskills 1333Mhz 2GB x2
AM3 Athlon II X2 260 3.2Ghz
AMD Radeon HD6570
500W Aerocool StrikeX true rated 80% efficiency
1 TB Seagate / Samsung / WD
1 part (mobo) was already existing, 3D ready na rin..
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mga sir. need your assistance. im planning to build a dekstop PC for the kids. pero excuse na rin kay misis para magamit ko siya for my 3d ready projector (acer h5630 nvidia 3D vision). I know that there are a few 3d movies out in the market kaya gagamitin ko lang siya for 3d viewing since I use another palyer for movies. ano suggested niyong specifications na mura.
thanks.
Get a G530 processor and 4GB of RAM at least, fitted to a motherboard with optical audio output. Then couple this with a current Nvidia GPU for 3D Vision support (GT610 at least for 3D movie playback, GTX550Ti at least for basic 720p 3D gaming).
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@all
pwede na kaya to as basis for an htpc? (ako na magdadagdag ng ibang parts like true-rated psu, hdd, gpu, sound card)
Celeron PC Package - 5650
Specs:
Rise ATX Case + 500W Generic PSU
ASRock H61M-VS B3
Intel Celeron G530 2.4Ghz
2GB DDR3
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Here are my thoughts on this:
a. pure HTPC (even online games)
- ivy bridge processor
- H77 motherboard
- SSD for OS & media front end (60-128GB)
- HDD (internal or external) for media
- min 4GB 1600 RAM
- 400w PSU
b. HTPC with GAMING
- 3770K
- Z77 motherboard
- SDD (optional)
- internal HDD
- 8GB 1600 RAM
- discrete GPU (at least HD 7770 or 550Ti)
- 500w PSU
IMO, ivy bridge for current requirements eliminates the need for a discrete GPU for a purely HTPC setup. Consider it future proof to about 3-5 years when 4K displays become mainstream. The SSD is purely for optimization of OS booting, so if you are fine with the usual boot times, then you can do without it. Option A would also rival NMT considering the lack of a discrete GPU. Although it will still consume higher power vs NMTs, it will not be as high as older HTPC.
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@all
pwede na kaya to as basis for an htpc? (ako na magdadagdag ng ibang parts like true-rated psu, hdd, gpu, sound card)
Celeron PC Package - 5650
Specs:
Rise ATX Case + 500W Generic PSU
ASRock H61M-VS B3
Intel Celeron G530 2.4Ghz
2GB DDR3
Pwede, pero if possible get a motherboard with HDMI para magamit mo ng maayos maski walang dedicated GPU. Maliit lang ang price difference.
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b. HTPC with GAMING
- 3770K
- Z77 motherboard
- SDD (optional)
- internal HDD
- 8GB 1600 RAM
- discrete GPU (at least HD 7770 or 550Ti)
- 500w PSU
Most current games won't saturate an i7-3770K, but most would have the HD7770/GTX550Ti as a big bottleneck (especially when you ramp up graphics settings).
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Agree on the procy, however, the TS mentioned 720p as his resolution so I suppose the GPU choices would suffice.
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question about the hdmi port on the graphics card, does that also output audio?
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question about the hdmi port on the graphics card, does that also output audio?
YES! ;)
@stagea
good point! I'm also eyeing the Asrock H61M/U3S3, which costs 3110 and already has HDMI and USB 3.0.
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YES! ;)
@stagea
good point! I'm also eyeing the Asrock H61M/U3S3, which costs 3110 and already has HDMI and USB 3.0.
ayun thanks. the case for me building my own htpc is getting stronger :)
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ayun thanks. the case for me building my own htpc is getting stronger :)
Buo ka na, Master Gerard. Baryang barya naman sayo. :) Mag MadVR ka ba?
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Agree on the procy, however, the TS mentioned 720p as his resolution so I suppose the GPU choices would suffice.
If he's gonna run 3D, he'd need to generate a consistent 120+fps (and preferably with vsync on) for smooth video with no visible tearing. That'd need some graphics muscle with higher detail levels, even at 720p.
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Buo ka na, Master Gerard. Baryang barya naman sayo. :) Mag MadVR ka ba?
sobrang outdated na ako, hindi ko na alam ano ang madvr ;D
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Ive read mostly specs how about costs bros?
I would like to build a new cpu for a little gaming, video editing, the usual browsing and word processing for my kids. Any recommendation please and possibly price na rin>thanks ;)
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Ive read mostly specs how about costs bros?
I would like to build a new cpu for a little gaming, video editing, the usual browsing and word processing for my kids. Any recommendation please and possibly price na rin>thanks ;)
12-15k for a basic build. 20k and up for an htpc/ gaming build. what's your budget for an htpc?
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bro 15k to 20k
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bro 15k to 20k
With screen and input devices na or wala pa?
If meron na, something like this would likely do:
Intel Core i3-2120 Processor
Intel DH61HO Motherboard
Kingston 4GB DDR3-1333 RAM (1 stick)
Sapphire/Powercolor Radeon HD 7750 1GB DDR5
Western Digital Blue 1TB HDD
Cooler Master Elite 371 w/ 460W CM PS
These items will total close to 20k. Using just 1 stick of RAM will leave the other slot available for future upgrades. Dagdagan mo na lang ng RAM and ODD later on, as necessary.
Depende din sa expectations mo. Sa video editing kasi nakakabilis yung Quick Sync feature pag supported ng software (lalo na during encode), kaya recommended i3 at least. Sa games naman critical yung graphics adapter normally, and not so much the processor. Since you plan to do both, medyo masasagad talaga budget mo, unless you're willing to take a performance hit in one of those activities.
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With screen and input devices na or wala pa?
If meron na, something like this would likely do:
Intel Core i3-2120 Processor
Intel DH61HO Motherboard
Kingston 4GB DDR3-1333 RAM (1 stick)
Sapphire/Powercolor Radeon HD 7750 1GB DDR5
Western Digital Blue 1TB HDD
Cooler Master Elite 371 w/ 460W CM PS
These items will total close to 20k. Using just 1 stick of RAM will leave the other slot available for future upgrades. Dagdagan mo na lang ng RAM and ODD later on, as necessary.
Depende din sa expectations mo. Sa video editing kasi nakakabilis yung Quick Sync feature pag supported ng software (lalo na during encode), kaya recommended i3 at least. Sa games naman critical yung graphics adapter normally, and not so much the processor. Since you plan to do both, medyo masasagad talaga budget mo, unless you're willing to take a performance hit in one of those activities.
This is great -- Thanks bro! i will just show the list to the shop.
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How can I improve my current setup?
Targeting to play the last 2 Call of Duty & the latest Medal of Honor
Procie: AMD Athlon 64 X2 2.8GHz
Mobo: Asus M4A785D-M Pro
RAM: 3GB Geil DDR2
PSU: 550W HEC WinPower+
Casing: Lancool Tower Casing
OS: WinXP
Previously used an Power Color HD4770 (currently shelved)
can the HD7700 with my current setup accommodate the games mentioned above?
or i need a new gaming rig?
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How can I improve my current setup?
Targeting to play the last 2 Call of Duty & the latest Medal of Honor
Procie: AMD Athlon 64 X2 2.8GHz
Mobo: Asus M4A785D-M Pro
RAM: 3GB Geil DDR2
PSU: 550W HEC WinPower+
Casing: Lancool Tower Casing
OS: WinXP
Previously used an Power Color HD4770 (currently shelved)
can the HD7700 with my current setup accommodate the games mentioned above?
or i need a new gaming rig?
Medal of Honor: Warfighter is expected to take advantage of multicore processors, lots of RAM and a fast GPU. However, as long as you don't intend to play in high detail settings and high resolution, then your PC with an HD 7750 / 7770 should be okay. It'd should still be a lot better than a PS3.
If you plan on keeping your motherboard, adding additional RAM and plugging in a faster processor could be an option. DDR2 pricing is a bit steep at the moment however, and it may make more sense to change everything if you're looking at changing the CPU anyway.
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thanks, 720p setting would be tolerable or it should be lower?
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thanks, 720p setting would be tolerable or it should be lower?
720p would likely be doable, as long as you keep the effects and details in check (and you don't intend to run 3D).
A lightweight operating system like Windows 7 Home Basic 32-bit might help reduce your overhead if you plan to keep your existing hardware. Get the 64-bit version if you plan on doing a RAM upgrade (an extra 4 gigs should run you about 3k nowadays).
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thanks a lot :)
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How can I improve my current setup?
Targeting to play the last 2 Call of Duty & the latest Medal of Honor
Procie: AMD Athlon 64 X2 2.8GHz
Mobo: Asus M4A785D-M Pro
RAM: 3GB Geil DDR2
PSU: 550W HEC WinPower+
Casing: Lancool Tower Casing
OS: WinXP
Previously used an Power Color HD4770 (currently shelved)
can the HD7700 with my current setup accommodate the games mentioned above?
or i need a new gaming rig?
an 7750 would already be a good upgrade. however, I recommend stretching your upgrade budget to 10k so you could upgrade the motherboard, cpu, and ram as well.
here's a sample of what 10k could get you: ;)
ECS H61H2-M2 - 1995
Intel Celeron G530 - 1800
4GB DDR3-1333 - 900
PowerColor HD 7750 1GB - 4850
TOTAL = 9545
Take note: even the cheapest modern Celeron has better performance than an Athlon 64 X2. ;)
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I built one for my boss with a budget of less than 15k, got cheap parts from TPC.com and he's happy with his HTPC.
AM3; Asrock N68-VS3FX
DDR3 Gskills 1333Mhz 2GB x2
AM3 Athlon II X2 260 3.2Ghz
AMD Radeon HD6570
500W Aerocool StrikeX true rated 80% efficiency
1 TB Seagate / Samsung / WD
1 part (mobo) was already existing, 3D ready na rin..
Sir salamat.. will take note of your suggestion
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Get a G530 processor and 4GB of RAM at least, fitted to a motherboard with optical audio output. Then couple this with a current Nvidia GPU for 3D Vision support (GT610 at least for 3D movie playback, GTX550Ti at least for basic 720p 3D gaming).
salamat sir will consider this pag nag setup na. Im planning to do it by next month if budget permits.
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Hi Guys,
I would like to build an HTPC/Gaming Rig... Could you recommend a rig with a budget of 30k including monitor? I'm looking for something with a good PQ and where I can use my HT System (receiver is HK260)
TIA
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Hi Guys,
I would like to build an HTPC/Gaming Rig... Could you recommend a rig with a budget of 30k including monitor? I'm looking for something with a good PQ and where I can use my HT System (receiver is HK260)
TIA
What sort of monitor would you want? Don't you want to game with your main display instead?
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Why not get the FM2 board and A10-5800k you have a quadcore with up to 2GB HD7660D GPU.
Asrock A55M-DGS - 2650.00
A10-5800k - 5690.00
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws X 8GB(2x4gb) DDR3 1600 CL9 Red - 1980.00
Fsp Raider 550watts 80PLUS Bronze - 2500.00
1 TB Seagate / Samsung / WD
In this setup you don't need any video card the HD7660D is powerful enough to do task of gaming and you have a 3D capable setuo with good PQ in HTPC not unlike nvidia. ^-^ ^-^ ^-^
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What sort of monitor would you want? Don't you want to game with your main display instead?
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I would like to use my plasma sana for gaming.. but ok din if Monitor... what monitor would you recommend? Probably around 18 to 22 inch would do..
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Why not get the FM2 board and A10-5800k you have a quadcore with up to 2GB HD7660D GPU.
Asrock A55M-DGS - 2650.00
A10-5800k - 5690.00
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws X 8GB(2x4gb) DDR3 1600 CL9 Red - 1980.00
Fsp Raider 550watts 80PLUS Bronze - 2500.00
1 TB Seagate / Samsung / WD
In this setup you don't need any video card the HD7660D is powerful enough to do task of gaming and you have a 3D capable setuo with good PQ in HTPC not unlike nvidia. ^-^ ^-^ ^-^
Where can I buy this sir? Sa gilmore?
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Where can I buy this sir? Sa gilmore?
Check tipidpc brader all that price has been grab there. happy building tagal uwi ng frend ko my HTPC new build. ^-^ ^-^ ^-^
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I would like to use my plasma sana for gaming.. but ok din if Monitor... what monitor would you recommend? Probably around 18 to 22 inch would do..
I was asking because you mentioned the price saying "including monitor" which is what threw me off. If you're okay with using your TV, dedicate your budget for the rest of the hardware (and software).
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Check tipidpc brader all that price has been grab there. happy building tagal uwi ng frend ko my HTPC new build. ^-^ ^-^ ^-^
Ok bro.. almost similar nadin ba prices ng tipidpc and gilmore? Planning to go there kasi this friday... would like to know if it's still worth the effort :)
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I was asking because you mentioned the price saying "including monitor" which is what threw me off. If you're okay with using your TV, dedicate your budget for the rest of the hardware (and software).
Yes sir.. what would you recommend? I'm not looking for something na compact yung size..kahit yung traditional na casing ok lang ..but if I can achieve similar specs using compact casing vs traditional atx casing mas better... :) Last time I bought a pc kasi was way back 2006 kaya I know nothing about what's ok and what to avoid.. Thank you mga sir..
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Yes sir.. what would you recommend? I'm not looking for something na compact yung size..kahit yung traditional na casing ok lang ..but if I can achieve similar specs using compact casing vs traditional atx casing mas better... :) Last time I bought a pc kasi was way back 2006 kaya I know nothing about what's ok and what to avoid.. Thank you mga sir..
If you like to store more HDD on the case a decent HTPC case with a lot of HDD compartment is silverstone HTPC case look for the Grandia model. >:D >:D >:D
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If you like to store more HDD on the case a decent HTPC case with a lot of HDD compartment is silverstone HTPC case look for the Grandia model. >:D >:D >:D
Ok sir will check it out :) Mas ok nga yun...para maeliminate narin mga external HDD's ko :)
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If you like to store more HDD on the case a decent HTPC case with a lot of HDD compartment is silverstone HTPC case look for the Grandia model. >:D >:D >:D
Sir what if I take on the path of having a dedicated video card since I will also use it for gaming.. what Video Card, Mobo and Procie would you recommend? thanks!
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Sir what if I take on the path of having a dedicated video card since I will also use it for gaming.. what Video Card, Mobo and Procie would you recommend? thanks!
Video Chipset: AMD HD 7870 or higher
Processor: Intel 3rd Gen "Ivy Bridge" i5 (i5-3450 or higher)
Motherboard Chipset: Intel Series 7 based (B75/Q75/Q77/H77/Z75/Z77)
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Video Chipset: AMD HD 7870 or higher
Processor: Intel 3rd Gen "Ivy Bridge" i5 (i5-3450 or higher)
Motherboard Chipset: Intel Series 7 based (B75/Q75/Q77/H77/Z75/Z77)
Thank you :) If I go that way mukhang kulang na ang budget ko na 30k :) hehehe.. But siguro worth it naman :) won't be thinking of upgrading anytime soon..
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Thank you :) If I go that way mukhang kulang na ang budget ko na 30k :) hehehe.. But siguro worth it naman :) won't be thinking of upgrading anytime soon..
Are you a hardcore gamer? Check the AMD A10-5800k in youtube playing BF3. >:D >:D >:D
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since you're gonna use it as both an HTPC and Gaming PC, I suggest excluding a monitor from your 30k budget. you're gonna plug it to your display, which I assume is an LED or plasma tv. ;)
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Thank you :) If I go that way mukhang kulang na ang budget ko na 30k :) hehehe.. But siguro worth it naman :) won't be thinking of upgrading anytime soon..
Kasya naman if you spend it wisely (decent non-fancy parts). Mura na lang ang gamit ngayon.
Going down to an i3 is also doable, but it's only gonna save you like 2k. :P
Example:
Powercolor HD 7870 2GB Video ~ 8195
Intel i5-3450 Processor ~ 7695
Asus P8Z75-M LE Motherboard ~ 3395
Kingston ValueRAM 8GB DDR3 ~ 1590
Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD ~ 4495
HEC Cougar ST 600W PSU ~ 2190
Cooler Master Elite 343 Chassis ~ 1300
Logitech MK220 Keyboard/Mouse ~ 950
Total Cost ~ 29810
You can upgrade the keyboard/mouse and add a UPS and an SSD if budget permits. :)
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@DTNS - Yes sir will be hooking it up with a plasma but my GF volunteered to buy me a monitor as well :P
@Stagea - Cge sir will check my budget and consider this set - up. Is this way better than the AMD A10 set-up? Currently not a hardcore gamer but might turn into one eventually pag naimpress sa graphics >:D Xbox 360 lang kasi pang games ko ngayon e..not sure kung gano kalaki diff nila in terms of graphics..
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Are you a hardcore gamer? Check the AMD A10-5800k in youtube playing BF3. >:D >:D >:D
Yun nga ang dilemma ko sir e..If I would go for AMD or Intel... cge sir will check it out later.. This is without a GPU no? Dami din nagrerecommend ng A10 sa TPC e..
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Yun nga ang dilemma ko sir e..If I would go for AMD or Intel... cge sir will check it out later.. This is without a GPU no? Dami din nagrerecommend ng A10 sa TPC e..
amd a10 has a built in GPU which is HD7660D whic is up to 2GB memory which is already good for mid gamer. >:D >:D
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amd a10 has a built in GPU which is HD7660D whic is up to 2GB memory which is already good for mid gamer. >:D >:D
And mas efficient din sya sir for torrent downloading kesa sa I5?
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@Stagea - Cge sir will check my budget and consider this set - up. Is this way better than the AMD A10 set-up? Currently not a hardcore gamer but might turn into one eventually pag naimpress sa graphics >:D Xbox 360 lang kasi pang games ko ngayon e..not sure kung gano kalaki diff nila in terms of graphics..
It is more capable, yes. It does cost more, however. Sa A10 build, you can spend the extra money on an SSD, a nice controller, an optical drive, etc.
Graphics capability, malayo sa console. Consoles are generally way behind PCs when it comes to hardware. Nadadaya lang sa software optimization, since identical ang hardware nung consoles natitweak nung game developers yung software for the hardware at hand.
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It is more capable, yes. It does cost more, however. Sa A10 build, you can spend the extra money on an SSD, a nice controller, an optical drive, etc.
Graphics capability, malayo sa console. Consoles are generally way behind PCs when it comes to hardware. Nadadaya lang sa software optimization, since identical ang hardware nung consoles natitweak nung game developers yung software for the hardware at hand.
Oo nga sir e..Pati pala SSD, OD, Controllers need ko din ibudget..pero siguro pag nagkaextra money nalang din...hehe.. Bale let's say I go for the A10, would it be way better than Xbox Graphics? Bigla ko naisip pwede nako mag G27 sa PC... >:D
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Kasya naman if you spend it wisely (decent non-fancy parts). Mura na lang ang gamit ngayon.
Going down to an i3 is also doable, but it's only gonna save you like 2k. :P
Example:
Powercolor HD 7870 2GB Video ~ 8195
Intel i5-3450 Processor ~ 7695
Asus P8Z75-M LE Motherboard ~ 3395
Kingston ValueRAM 8GB DDR3 ~ 1590
Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD ~ 4495
HEC Cougar ST 600W PSU ~ 2190
Cooler Master Elite 343 Chassis ~ 1300
Logitech MK220 Keyboard/Mouse ~ 950
Total Cost ~ 29810
You can upgrade the keyboard/mouse and add a UPS and an SSD if budget permits. :)
Sir san pala yong I5 3450 na 7695? :) mura ahh..
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Sir san pala yong I5 3450 na 7695? :) mura ahh..
Gaisano sa Gilmore. All prices except yung casing, power supply at kb/mouse sa kanila ko kinuha. Yung price ng power supply, casing at kb/mouse sa PC Hub ko kinuha.
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Gaisano sa Gilmore. All prices except yung casing, power supply at kb/mouse sa kanila ko kinuha. Yung price ng power supply, casing at kb/mouse sa PC Hub ko kinuha.
Thank you sir...sa Video Card... mas ok 7870 vs GTX 660? Ano ba ok na brand for video card?
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Thank you sir...sa Video Card... mas ok 7870 vs GTX 660? Ano ba ok na brand for video card?
Yung TDP ng i5 is 77W against sa 65W ng A10 tapos add mo pa yung video card power consumption ng i5 setup. If you will also use with HTPC better get a AMD Video card for PQ than Nvidia. >:D >:D
Oo nga sir e..Pati pala SSD, OD, Controllers need ko din ibudget..pero siguro pag nagkaextra money nalang din...hehe.. Bale let's say I go for the A10, would it be way better than Xbox Graphics? Bigla ko naisip pwede nako mag G27 sa PC... >:D
Ang ayaw ko lang sa SSD pag nag reformat ka hindi siya simpleng reformat may gagawin ka pang iba na extra may software na gagamitin to wipe the SSD. Why not get a WD Black than SSD may 5K ng WD black dito sa PDVD compare sa 120GB lang na tig 5K na SSD. Sabi nga nila sa boot and sa pang open lang kita ang difference other than that in game or HTPC use same lang ng WD Black ang speed ng SSD. >:D >:D
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@DTNS - Yes sir will be hooking it up with a plasma but my GF volunteered to buy me a monitor as well :P
wow! ang swerte mo naman at ganyan ka-generous ang gf mo! ;D
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Thank you sir...sa Video Card... mas ok 7870 vs GTX 660? Ano ba ok na brand for video card?
AMD over Nvidia when it comes to HT use for now (maybe Nvidia can catch up in the future). The video image quality difference is quite noticeable when running hardware-based decoding. The current Geforce 600 series delivers PQ that's better than the Radeon 4000 series, but behind the Radeon 5000 series. AMD's current generation (Radeon 7000 series) can deliver PQ that's comparable to extensive software decoding, minus the high CPU load.
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Why not get a WD Black than SSD may 5K ng WD black dito sa PDVD compare sa 120GB lang na tig 5K na SSD.
Magkakano na ba hybrid drives ngayon? Still over 6k?
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Oo nga sir e..Pati pala SSD, OD, Controllers need ko din ibudget..pero siguro pag nagkaextra money nalang din...hehe.. Bale let's say I go for the A10, would it be way better than Xbox Graphics? Bigla ko naisip pwede nako mag G27 sa PC... >:D
XBOX 360 / PS3 use antiquated engines, from a computing standpoint. The Xenos (360 graphics processor) is based on the R500 series (Radeon x1000 series) design, which was popular in PCs 7 years ago. The gap versus current high end PC graphics is just staggering because of the programmability and sheer processing muscle of today's hardware (packing 68x as many transistors per chip, having the ability to run multiple chips in parallel, and running at upto 3x the clock rate).
The only thing keeping current consoles alive is the amount of optimizations done on the software to look decent while running on low spec hardware (kudos to the game developers for the effort). PC gamers hate this a lot, as a lot of games do not take advantage of the capability of PC hardware because they are optimized for consoles then ported over to the PC with fairly minor tweaks and improvements.
That being said, yes. Despite being a fraction of the power of today's top end GPUs, the A10's built-in graphics (HD 7660D) still bring in capability and performance that's well ahead of current gaming consoles. You need to pair it with fast memory to deliver the goods. You can also opt to Hybrid CrossfireX it with a dedicated HD 6670 GDDR5 model for a sizeable performance improvement with some applications (AMD Dual Graphics) for 3k PhP.
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Sir san pala yong I5 3450 na 7695? :) mura ahh..
Kasya naman if you spend it wisely (decent non-fancy parts). Mura na lang ang gamit ngayon.
Going down to an i3 is also doable, but it's only gonna save you like 2k. :P
Example:
Powercolor HD 7870 2GB Video ~ 8195
Intel i5-3450 Processor ~ 7695
Asus P8Z75-M LE Motherboard ~ 3395
Kingston ValueRAM 8GB DDR3 ~ 1590
Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD ~ 4495
HEC Cougar ST 600W PSU ~ 2190
Cooler Master Elite 343 Chassis ~ 1300
Logitech MK220 Keyboard/Mouse ~ 950
Total Cost ~ 29810
You can upgrade the keyboard/mouse and add a UPS and an SSD if budget permits. :)
sir saang store yang price ng 7870? ang mura...ty
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Magkakano na ba hybrid drives ngayon? Still over 6k?
For 1TB black price at 4800. I still go for the WD black than SSD route for the price and capacity. ^-^ ^-^ ^-^
sir saang store yang price ng 7870? ang mura...ty
Gaisano sa Gilmore. All prices except yung casing, power supply at kb/mouse sa kanila ko kinuha. Yung price ng power supply, casing at kb/mouse sa PC Hub ko kinuha.
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Yung TDP ng i5 is 77W against sa 65W ng A10 tapos add mo pa yung video card power consumption ng i5 setup. If you will also use with HTPC better get a AMD Video card for PQ than Nvidia. >:D >:D
Ang ayaw ko lang sa SSD pag nag reformat ka hindi siya simpleng reformat may gagawin ka pang iba na extra may software na gagamitin to wipe the SSD. Why not get a WD Black than SSD may 5K ng WD black dito sa PDVD compare sa 120GB lang na tig 5K na SSD. Sabi nga nila sa boot and sa pang open lang kita ang difference other than that in game or HTPC use same lang ng WD Black ang speed ng SSD. >:D >:D
Thank you sir.. will take note of your recommendations.. excited nako for tom :)
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wow! ang swerte mo naman at ganyan ka-generous ang gf mo! ;D
Hahaha.... oo nga e.. nagulat din ako..supported ako sa gastos ko... Wifey material for me... madali magupgrade ng gears in the future...hahaha
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XBOX 360 / PS3 use antiquated engines, from a computing standpoint. The Xenos (360 graphics processor) is based on the R500 series (Radeon x1000 series) design, which was popular in PCs 7 years ago. The gap versus current high end PC graphics is just staggering because of the programmability and sheer processing muscle of today's hardware (packing 68x as many transistors per chip, having the ability to run multiple chips in parallel, and running at upto 3x the clock rate).
The only thing keeping current consoles alive is the amount of optimizations done on the software to look decent while running on low spec hardware (kudos to the game developers for the effort). PC gamers hate this a lot, as a lot of games do not take advantage of the capability of PC hardware because they are optimized for consoles then ported over to the PC with fairly minor tweaks and improvements.
That being said, yes. Despite being a fraction of the power of today's top end GPUs, the A10's built-in graphics (HD 7660D) still bring in capability and performance that's well ahead of current gaming consoles. You need to pair it with fast memory to deliver the goods. You can also opt to Hybrid CrossfireX it with a dedicated HD 6670 GDDR5 model for a sizeable performance improvement with some applications (AMD Dual Graphics) for 3k PhP.
Thank you sir...I'm now more confused if I'd go for I5 or A10 :) Mas makakatipid kasi ako sa A10... And dami din nagrerecommend dito and sa TPC...
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Thank you sir...I'm now more confused if I'd go for I5 or A10 :) Mas makakatipid kasi ako sa A10... And dami din nagrerecommend dito and sa TPC...
The question is gaano mo ka need ang discrete GPU? If di naman problema sa iyo ang power consumption and extra na budget then get the i5. >:D >:D >:D
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The question is gaano mo ka need ang discrete GPU? If di naman problema sa iyo ang power consumption and extra na budget then get the i5. >:D >:D >:D
For gaming lang ba yung sir? Ano pa ba ibang benefits ng may discrete GPU?
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For gaming lang ba yung sir? Ano pa ba ibang benefits ng may discrete GPU?
A few other possibilities: Multiple screens, bitstreaming audio (and, of course, multiple screens with HD audio bitstreaming), and the fact that even non-gaming applications tend to be accelerated thanks to a proc being freed up more to concentrate on non-video processing.
CONS: cost, power consumption, and the little fact that most people don't really need a discrete video card.
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A few other possibilities: Multiple screens, bitstreaming audio (and, of course, multiple screens with HD audio bitstreaming), and the fact that even non-gaming applications tend to be accelerated thanks to a proc being freed up more to concentrate on non-video processing.
CONS: cost, power consumption, and the little fact that most people don't really need a discrete video card.
yeah..so will probably go for the AMD A10 nalang muna..pag bitin then that's the time i'll just buy a discrete video card :)
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sir saang store yang price ng 7870? ang mura...ty
As mentioned previously, sa Gaisano Interpace siya.
CONS: cost, power consumption, and the little fact that most people don't really need a discrete video card.
I so agree. Andaming nagfa-Facebook lang pero ayaw ng integrated graphics. LOL.
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A few other possibilities: Multiple screens, bitstreaming audio (and, of course, multiple screens with HD audio bitstreaming), and the fact that even non-gaming applications tend to be accelerated thanks to a proc being freed up more to concentrate on non-video processing.
CONS: cost, power consumption, and the little fact that most people don't really need a discrete video card.
ibig bang sabihin nito eh walang audio bitstreaming ang trinity? thanks
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ibig bang sabihin nito eh walang audio bitstreaming ang trinity? thanks
Meron po. Meron din multi-monitor support. HD 5000 series and up meron nyan. HD 6000 series ang nasa Llano and HD 7000 series ang nasa Trinity.