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Title: Home Theater In a Box (HTiB) 101
Post by: MeowPao on Dec 27, 2001 at 11:43 PM

Hi everyone!

Can you guys help me on what DVD system to pick? I've narrowed it down to 2:

Sony MHC-DP100D:
http://www.sony.com.ph/products/hifi/mini/mhc-dp1000d.html


Sony MHC-S9D:
http://www.sony.com.ph/products/hifi/mini/mhc-s9d.html


Can you help me pick which should I get?  ::)

I'm more partial to all-in / complete systems, but if you people have better suggestions, I'm all ears! :)

TY!

Title: Re: What to get for a New DVD System
Post by: alfred on Dec 28, 2001 at 09:09 AM

Meowpao,

Check mo if it can play all region pirated DVDs (not that I endorsed it, baka lang may-mahiram ka). Kasi Sony ang nagstart nito (RCE). Eh medyo nag-backfire sa kanila. With RCE encoded DVD di mo ma-play ito sa all region player (pero sa Pioneer puede). May thread d2 re: RCE encoded DVDs. Check mo na lang. ;)

Mods,

Tama ba pinagsasabi ko? ::) ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: What to get for a New DVD System
Post by: afterglow on Dec 28, 2001 at 09:48 AM

Hmmm......  I'm more into separates but let's see if I can help.  What sort of budget are you looking at??  Also, what are you looking for in your system??  Convenience?  Looks? Performance?  Upgradability?

If you're after convenience, then by all means go with one of the Sonys but I have to warn you that there tends to be a premium charged for Sony products.  Although Sony electronics do work well, if I were saving money one of the last brands I would look at would be Sony.  In this case, both systems use only 1-way 3" speakers for the center and rears (ala Bose).

If you're looking more into performance and upgradability then perhaps we can recommend a separate system (DVD player, receiver, 5.1 speakers).....just give us a budget.  If your budget is tight, then I suggest getting your speakers piece-by-piece.  Mains first, then rears, then center, followed last by the sub.

If you are set on one of the Sonys, I'd rather get the MHC-S9D because they are separates, which would mean they have separate power supplies.

Title: Re: What to get for a New DVD System
Post by: MeowPao on Dec 28, 2001 at 10:18 AM

My budget is around 40K, this is very likely not enough for good separates. :(  

Then again, I've been eyeing an all-in-one system, since I'm still quite new with DVD systems, and I'm still confused by all those cables (read my thread about the splitters  ;D ). I skipped Laser Discs and VCDs (never owned any media of those types) since I think DVDs have the potential to last a long time (in the market, that is).

Now you guys got me worried with that 'RCE' thing. What player do you think can I get (within budget) that has this enabled?

Oh, what is the advantage of having 'separate power supplies'? Would you believe that the DP1000D and the MHCS9D are almost similar in specs but the prices difference is around 6-7K?

Title: Re: What to get for a New DVD System
Post by: barrid on Dec 28, 2001 at 04:57 PM

Mini Compo system ba ang nasa isip mo o kahit ibang all in one system [ht in the box]? Kasi parang na miss mo ang DAV S500 ng Sony. Okey din kasi yun. Kung ako sa iyo. Titignan ko rin ang ibang HT In The Box. Mas mahusay yun kaysa sa mini compo system. At pareho rin ang wiring. Speaker wire na lang ang ikakabit mo at  coded pa. Nalimutan ko lang ang thread dito. Pero may Sony, Panasonic at Pioneer HT in the box owner na member dito. Tulad ko, panasonic nga lang ang system ko.

Title: Re: What to get for a New DVD System
Post by: MeowPao on Dec 28, 2001 at 09:03 PM

My problem is that I do not have a good TV that can make full use of that HT in a box( I did check out that Sony DAV S500) . I'm eyeing that Sony Wega 29", but that's for next year, and I'll be consulting you guys then.  ;)

Also, that Mini Compo by Sony DOES look good.  :D

I've been looking around the net to see if their machines can run that RCE thing. I'll be going off to check those Pinoneer compos later. :D

I've checked the prices pala, that MHC-S9D is P38,999.00 while the MHC-DP1000D is P32,999.00 at Anson's. Get this, they have a promo (kuno): FREE DVD AND P1,000 gift certificate from Landmank. Also, you can pay the SAME AMOUNT using BPI Cards. Di ba other stores give you a surcharge and all?

Title: HT in a Box
Post by: levi on Dec 28, 2001 at 09:37 PM

Hello meowpao,

  Chk this out:

just bought pioneer htd-1  (http://www.pinoydvd.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.cgi?board=hometheater&action=display&num=1001899693)
What type of DVD player do you own? Part 2  (http://www.pinoydvd.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.cgi?board=hometheater&action=display&num=1008754293)
Starting a budget HT system  (http://www.pinoydvd.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.cgi?board=hometheater&action=display&num=999239123)
home theater on a budget  (http://www.pinoydvd.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.cgi?board=hometheater&action=display&num=990526278)
Regional Coding Enhancement  (http://www.pinoydvd.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.cgi?board=dvddiscussion&action=display&num=986227149)


   I changed your title so others can post about HT in a Box here. Thank you.

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: levi on Dec 28, 2001 at 10:01 PM

Meowpao,
  HT in a Box is a good start to enjoy DVD if you want it simple, fix budget, and you have a small area. As you enjoy collecting and watching DVDs, you will soon have the urge to upgrade but HT in a Box may not be expandable. I suggest you try to start with separate systems. You can start purchasing one at a time until you get to complete your  home theater and in that way you get a better selection of equipments. I know a few who started with HT in a Box and after few months they shifted to separates, then they are faced with a problem of disposing their HT in a Box or sometimes feel and say "sayang, i should have put the original budget in the separates from the start."
Also, if something gets wrong in your HT in a box, the whole thing is broken unlike separates if the amp is broken, the rest are stll intact. So you just buy a new amp or have it repaired.

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: MeowPao on Dec 28, 2001 at 10:18 PM

Hi Levi! You seem to be mad with my handle! Daming versions! hahaha! ;D

Anyway, I've given some thought to your comments. I've also thought about that 'want to upgrade' situation. This is why I've been a bit partial to Mini-Components. At least when I tire of it, I can bring it somewhere else, like the office, or another room, where I can use it to play music.

What I wanted was when I get that Wega, THEN I think about those separates seriously. :)

Guess what my TV right now?  ;D

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: afterglow on Dec 28, 2001 at 10:20 PM

Since you're planning to upgrade your TV next year, it looks like you've got the beginnings of the HT bug.  If that's the case, I strongly suggest you go with separates instead of the mini-compo solution.  The problem with the all-in-one approach is that when you want to upgrade (you will, sooner rather than later)you will have to get rid of the entire system since there's no upgrade path.  With separates, you just get rid of the component that doesn't satisfy you.

It's tempting to get the 5.1 effect all at once but patiently getting the best components you can is really worth it....

If you've got PhP40K, you can go about it this way:
Receiver: 20K (Kenwood? Onkyo? Denon?)
DVD player: 10-15K (depending if you go generic or branded)
Mains: JBL N-24 (PhP8,020)
For this price range, I suggest getting the JBL N-24 for mains.  You can add another pair of N-24s for surrounds and the N-center(PhP6,500).  Add a sub of your choice later on.  If you want to get them all together, you'll have to shell out PhP20,500 for the JBLs + 8K and up for the sub.

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: barrid on Dec 28, 2001 at 10:44 PM

Guys,

Seems like our friend Meowpao needs a good TV and considering a WEGA. Maybe you can help him find a good TV set at Pier. And still have a spare to buy a DVD player and other separates. Then, he will be considering component [separates] instead of Ht in the box or mini compo.

Baka lang isa sa magandang option ito.

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: levi on Dec 28, 2001 at 11:00 PM

Quote

Hi Levi! You seem to be mad with my handle! Daming versions! hahaha! ;D

LOL meowpow and meowpaow. sorry hindi ko napansin yon.

    Why not start now? Include your TV in your planning. You can also chk out the TVs at the pier. Its better to start with the TV and the DVD then the receivers and speakers then lastly the subwoofer. Check out other TV brands. You might find better brands for the same price.
At least in your case you can transfer the HT in a Box in a different place but what if I use that budget to get a Good TV and a DVD player na region free and can play RCE?

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: MeowPao on Dec 29, 2001 at 03:57 AM

Err... where's the 'pier'?
What good (affordable and available) models of DVD players you guys recommend that can play RCE & multiregion? Di ba yung may DTS/Dolby Digital and all that...

Speaking of RCE, I called up Sony and would you believe these guys never heard of RCE? Oh wow!
Now where can I find those JBL speakers?

NAHIHILO NA AKO!  ??? ::) :P :)

Now this is another reason why I'm considering that HTbox. Fool around with it muna, THEN think about geting separates later, once I finally understand what all these Audio jargon means! hahaha!  ;)

I've been putting off the TV bec. I might be moving, and lugging around a 29" flatscreen is certainly no fun! If around that time these newfangled plasma screens become affordable, then 'yan na lang! $$$$$!!!  :D Ok, just to give me an idea, aside from the Wega, what other TV should I consider (at more or less the same price)? I've been standing around these appliance stores and checking out the TVs that are on, and from what I've seen, the Wega's the sharpest and clearest kasi.

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: afterglow on Dec 29, 2001 at 04:12 AM

The made in China players should have no problem with RCE discs.....among the branded ones, Pioneer has no problems.  Do a search here for the current recommended players.

For the JBLs....where in Manila do you plan to shop??  Let me know so I can find the nearest retailer in the area.

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: levi on Dec 29, 2001 at 05:31 AM

meowpao,

  Chk out the link I posted but to be safe choose pioneer DVD. They play anything you feed them but get it from hifi shops like listening room,Audio den, Image or sight and sound or even ambassador. Appliance store usually sell region 3 only. If you want to delay your TV then just get a receiver like yamaha, Denon, or Harman kardon. Then choose your speaker like B&W, Dynaudio, JBL, or Paradigm. You can find them in the HT shops I recommended.

   Regarding the TV check out Toshiba, or Mitsubishi. Dont be fooled by sharp and clear colors. What is important is the natural colors. Just my 1 cent.

Levi

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: kakabanas on Dec 29, 2001 at 08:13 AM

Quote

meowpao,

 Chk out the link I posted but to be safe choose pioneer DVD. They play anything you feed them but get it from hifi shops like listening room,Audio den, Image or sight and sound or even ambassador. Appliance store usually sell region 3 only. If you want to delay your TV then just get a receiver like yamaha, Denon, or Harman kardon. Then choose your speaker like B&W, Dyneaudio, JBL, or Paradigm. You can find them in the HT shops I recommended.

  Regarding the TV check out Toshiba, or Mitsubishi. Dont be fooled by sharp and clear colors. What is important is the natural colors. Just my 1 cent.

Levi

Try checking out Onkyo LS-V925 Envision. I think this is the best HT in a box out there for a limited budget. To know more about it, visit these sites :

Onkyo EnvisionTheater LSV-925 (http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/S-GjUETDls7na/ProdView.asp?s=0&c=4&g=37700&I=580LSV925&o=&a=
)

http://www.onkyousa.com

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: MeowPao on Dec 29, 2001 at 09:06 AM

Oo nga pala, I forgot to ask, how's the performance of these separates with regards naman to music CDs?

Levi, about the TV, what's with Toshiba and Mitsubishi that you like about?

afterglow, can you recommend the better ones? Shops I mean, so I can go check them out. Well, probably around Makati and Mandaluyong. I get the impression kasi these shops are so high tech and aside from that, charge me top $$$.

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: afterglow on Dec 29, 2001 at 09:29 AM

Separates will definitely sound better for music than the mini-components.  More powerful amps, better DACs, better transports, better speakers.  However, different brands will sound different.  For instance, Marantz receivers are acknowledged to be the most musical-sounding compared to the others (Denon, Yamaha, Onkyo, etc.).  But these differences will be minute compared to the difference between separates and mini-compos.

I don't know the reason for Levi's preference of Toshibas and Mitsubishis but there is a premium on Sony TVs.  If you are not enamored of the Sony brand, then you owe it to yourself to check other brands (Toshiba, Mitsubishi, et al) out.  You might be able to get more for your money.  Sony also uses a lot of circuitry to enhance NTSC pictures (cable/broadcast) which is bad for DVDs.  Toshibas also have these too (Scan Velocity Modulation) but with my Tosh RPTV, it's just a matter of disconnecting a wire.

You can check out JBL stuff at Sights & Sounds at Park Square, Domani at the New World Hotel or Focal in Greenhills.  Not sure if they have stock though.  You might also want to check out NHT SuperZeroes at Upscale (Mega).  They might even have some Missions in your price range....

In the end, let your ears be your guide.....

Title: Receiver + DVD Player
Post by: MeowPao on Dec 29, 2001 at 11:29 AM

Arrrgh! BAD INFLUENCE! All of you! AAArggh!  ;)

You guys got me looking at those receivers and now I'm thinking about it na!

So after checking the net about these stuff, I have some questions for you guys:
1. If the receiver has DTS, Dolby 5.1, 3D, etc. etc., do I have to get a DVD player such as the Pioneer DV-636D also with DTS, 5.1, etc. ?
2. What if I want to see that 'graphic equalizer'? Is this a separate equipment?
3. How about music? Can the system above sound better than a mini-component? (This is as important to me pala as to the DVD video.)
4. Are those prices for the speakers PER PIECE? WOW ang mahal pala! I've been dreaming of RAON for too long! Kala ko presyong Daiichi or something... (forgive a newbie ok?) haahaha! Seriously, what's the best budget speakers, is it JBL?

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: afterglow on Dec 29, 2001 at 12:05 PM

Don't blame us.....you're the one who was asking!!!=P
Seriously though, there are people for whom the mini-compo solution would be ideal......I'm thinking of people for whom convenience is paramount.

To answer your questions:
1.  You only need to decode your DD/DTS signal once.  So, strictly speaking, you only need a decoder in either your DVD player or your receiver.  Almost all current receivers have DD/DTS decoders on board so all you'll need is a DVD player that is DD/DTS compatible.  This suits your needs just fine since most receivers have superior decoders over DVD players that people would match with them.  How do you know if the DVD player will pass the DD/DTS bitstream??  Check for the DD/DTS logo in front and either a digital coax or optical out jack in the back.

2.  I don't really see graphic equalizers being used in HTs nowadays.  The only extensive use I know of is using a parametric equalizer to smooth out room-induced low-frequency humps and troughs.

3.  Hmmm.... a separate system will DEFINITELY sound better than a mini-compo.  Considering your budget, we've been recommending small sub/satellite systems which work fine for HT because they have good imaging which is important because when you're watching a movie, you're more interested in how the sound moves across the soundstage.  For music, it would be better to have full-range tower speakers (more expensive)since they can reproduce the frequency spectrum more accurately than the sub/sat systems.  One strategy is to get the best sounding mains you can, get a matching center and skimp on the surrounds.

4.  The JBL NSP-1 system (PhP20,500) consists of five speakers:  two pairs of N-24 satellites (PhP8,000 per pair if purchased separately) and an N-center (PhP6,000 each).  All you need to add is a sub for the full 5.1.  Local subs start at around PhP8,000.  There's a thread about subs which you should check out.  Sadly, the exchange rate has increased the price of imported stuff.  I find the NSP-1 to be a good bundle though....but if music is THAT important to you, I suggest you consider getting bigger speakers in the N line.

Speakers are the most subjective choice in your HT.  I've personally had good experience with JBL which is why I'm recommending it.  Others to try out would be PSB, NHT, Mission, etc.  Audition all the brands in your price range and let your ears be the judge.

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: MeowPao on Dec 29, 2001 at 12:26 PM

Yep I asked for it, and you guys had to push it! hahaha!

I've been checking around and I found the ff:

- Pioneer VSX-D810S-G Receiver (without the -G, this would cost at most $400 kuno)
- Pioneer K303C or K302CD Player (these are those 3 CD/DVD changers... I don't like single drive ones; magkano kaya?)
- That JBL NSP1 you reccommended (if this definitely sounds better than mini-compos, then ok na sa akin; P20,500 accdg to you)

Is this complete already? What are your comments? How much would this total kaya?

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: afterglow on Dec 29, 2001 at 12:46 PM

You will want a subwoofer at some point in time.  And don't forget the RCA, digital, speaker and video cables.  

Don't know much about Pioneer receivers.  I know that you can get entry-level Kenwood or Denon receivers for around PhP20K.  

The DV-K302CD retails for PhP19,000.  If you want something cheaper, go for a single-disc model.  I actually have the DV-K302CD given to me as a gift.  It's brand new...the box is opened but it hasn't even been plugged in.  I'm selling it if you're interested.

Before you decide on buying anything, I strongly urge you to audition it first (specially speakers).  Receivers and speakers sound different and there may be some brands you prefer over others.  

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: MeowPao on Dec 29, 2001 at 12:57 PM

Do you know where I can have those 'auditions'? Do you know of any stores that are ok, both with after-sales service and price?

I'll think about that Pioneer of yours... I still do not know the difference bet that and the 303C model... might have to go to a store and ask.

Was checking out the subwoofer prices, wow! P18000 for a powered JBL? heheh!

More questions,
1.how about WIRES? Are they included in the package?
Speaker wires, Antenna wires, etc. etc.
2. Is the 'power' of the receiver adjustable? Say its rated at 100W, can I switch it lower to like 80W to accomodate certain speakers?
3. If a receiver is at 100W. What will happen if I connect a 150W or 250W speaker?

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: afterglow on Dec 29, 2001 at 08:28 PM

If you want to be looked-after, then you'll have to go to one of the high-end shops like Listening in Style or AVDriver (both in Shang).  They have good equipment and good rooms so that you can concentrate on the audition.  Unfortunately, baka mamutla ka sa presyo.  They don't carry JBL either.  Among the shops I mentioned, probably Focal will have the most knowledgable people since the importer of JBL is a part owner of the store.  Just don't listen to their JMLabs setup or else the madness will never end.....

There's absolutely no reason for you to buy the same brand of subwoofers as your other speakers.  I actually don't like JBL subs which is why I didn't recommend it to you.  The decision on this one will be based on your room characteristics and your taste.  Some subs go very low, some go very loud, some do neither, very few (expensive) does both.  There are local subs that can be had for around PhP8K and these might suit your needs.  OTOH you might decide you want Velodyne, SVS or REL subs.....

On your other questions:
1.  The only wires worth using that are included are the power cables, composite-video cable (last resort) and the antenna.  Assuming that you'll be using a receiver, DVD player and a TV, these are the wires you'll need to purchase:

 Component-video(preferred) or S-video (okay) or composite video (avoid but if necessary, just use the one in the box) cable:  connects video-out of DVD to TV.  The quality of video will depend greatly on this and will be limited by the type of jacks available on your TV.  Most DVD players have all three but most TVs do not.

 Analog interconnects aka RCA cables:  You'll want to use these if your TV has audio-out

 Digital cable:  can be either Digital Coaxial (75-ohm cable that looks like a single RCA cable) or Digital Optical (TOSLINK).  You can use either type depending on the available jacks.  Given a choice, I'd go for Digital Coax since it's cheaper.

 Speaker cable:  to connect the receiver to the speakers.  To make it simple, just get 16 or 14 gauge from Raon.

Like audio components, cables come in different price and quality levels.  More expensive ones have better shielding and are more durable.  You'll have to decide what price/performance ratio works for you.

2.  Don't worry about the receiver overpowering the speakers.  Most receivers and speaker combinations are compatible.  In fact, you should worry more about underpowered receivers which can cause clipping and destroy your speakers.  Most speakers can receive more power than they're rated for if the signal is undistorted.  However, if you use an underpowered receiver, distortion will come much earlier and this is bad for the speakers.

3.  It's an old myth that you need to match the power output of an amp with the power handling capacity of the speakers.

Oks?

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: nerveblocker on Dec 30, 2001 at 05:40 AM

meowpaw- if you're tight on a budget you can audition our HT speaker set.  click on this...

http://www.pinoydvd.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.cgi?board=buysell&action=display&num=1006457922&start=15

just send me a text at 09175298004 or PM me if you are interested. We can meet somewhere so you can listen to its sound quality. ;D  

Let your ears be your guide! ;)

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: MeowPao on Dec 30, 2001 at 08:12 AM

Guys, now that you got me convinced, I've been roaming around Makati and checking the stuff you mentioned. I think I've decided on the DVD player: Pioneer K302CD.  :D

For the receivers, I still cannot decide between these two:

Pioneer VSD810S-G
http://www.pioneer.com.sg/products/product/homeav/product/rec_vsx-d810s-g.htm

Kenwood KRF-x9050D
http://www.kenwoodaudio.com/separatecomponents/v9050.html

and looking at a third brand : Yamaha RXV-620 or RXV-800.

Can you guys give me a hand?  ;)

But here's the tricky part: I've been able to spot this at Audio By Design
Kenwood System 220 for P29,000 ONLY (!!!!???!!!)
http://www.kenwoodaudio.com/hometheatre/dav220.html

Hey, I found this realtively cheap subwoofer that I might get: Kenwood SW305W at P 11,700.00. Ok kaya?
http://www.kenwoodaudio.com/separatecomponents/sw305.html

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: levi on Dec 30, 2001 at 12:09 PM

meowpao,

  Im not against sony but with the price of sony you can get other brands also. Its going to be your call, I just want to tell you try other brands also. Regarding your option for receiver, I will choose yamaha. If I were to choose, I will go for Denon 1802 or Harman Kardon AVR4000.  I think Image in Harrison Plaza sells both. For speakers try B&W 300 series or 600 series.

Just my 1 cent.

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: afterglow on Dec 30, 2001 at 07:46 PM

I noticed that your choices for receivers are real powerhouses......120 wattsx6 and up!!  If you are still sticking to a budget, you might be better served by choosing something with a bit lower wattage, say 85 watts since the real-world difference in SPL will be very minimal.  Use the money that you would save for your speakers.  You will notice that you will be changing your electronics every few years because of new formats but there will be no reason to change speakers if you are totally satisfied with them.  Do take time to check out other receiver manufacturers while you're at it.....Yamaha, Denon, Marantz, Harman, etc.

Also, I find that speakers manufactured by electronics people (Pioneer, Yamaha, Sony, etc.) are no match to the speakers manufactured by loudspeaker manufacturers.  Once again, let your ears be your judge.  

Title: Questions about RECEIVERS
Post by: MeowPao on Dec 31, 2001 at 06:18 AM

afterglow (and everyone),  :)

Acutally, my budget just went up (a little bit!)  :-[

Ok, Levi told me to check out Denon, which I did. But do you know of any store that sells Denon? I've tried checking some of them, and they seem to either not have any on stock, or are hard to talk with (this for me reflects their after-sales service among others).

I'm taking this one step at a time, so now I'm up to the recivers.  :)

So far, I'm looking at 3 brands (in order of preference): Yamaha, Kenwood and Denon.

For Yamaha and Denon, I was able to download their MANUALS (in PDF). Nice.  :) Kenwood is quite vague in describing their systems.

Unless I find better sellers of Denon (which can give me good support and price), I'll probably decide on the Yamaha.

Some questions regarding Receivers(AGAIN!  ;D )
1. There's: Martix 6.1, Pro logic II, DTS-ES, THX, among others. Do I need these features? Are they in wide use? Are the usual (DTS, D.Digital, AC3, 5.1, Pro Logic) enough already?

2. With regards to power, do I look at the Minimum RMS Output Power or the Maximum Power?

3. In the case of my preference, for now, its 65% music and 35% video (I'm not a hard-core audiophile but I do love my music CDs that's why I eyed those Mini-Compos first  ;) ). Is this choice for a receiver type ok already for my needs?

4. What if I want to listen to regular 2-channel Stereo (for my CDs)? Is this feature included in the receiver? Does it depend on how I connect the player to the receiver? I'll be using the 3-DVD/CD changer pala.

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: afterglow on Dec 31, 2001 at 08:53 AM

Your budget went up??  Yipee!!  Now, it's time to spend it!!
For Denon, check out Electronics Depot in Libis.  It's almost opposite the Ford dealership.  

On your other questions:
1.  There are more titles coming out in the new formats: DTS-ES, THX-EX, DD-EX....which use 6.1 or 7.1 but the vast majority is still for 5.1.  Matrix 6.1 creates the 6th channel using the information from the surround channels and thus is not discrete.  I've heard DPLII is a huge improvement over DPL which would be nice if you watch a lot of non-DD/DTS stuff including cable and VHS.  Once again, these extra formats cost money in the form of upgraded receivers and extra speakers, but they're not too big of an extra investment.  Once again, audition to find out if it's worth it.

2.  Look at max. power output.  BTW, how big is your room??

3.  If you're that big into music, do yourself a favor and listen to Marantz receivers....the best for music (IMHO).  I've heard that Focal (Greenhills) is/will be carrying them.  Or go for a separate stereo-only system, which is what I did (pero maarte lang ako).

4.  If you want to listen to 2-ch stereo on your receiver, all you have to do is disable the DSP, leaving only the tone and volume controls.  I know that some Denon receivers have 5-channel stereo, if you're into that sort of thing.  Since you'll be using your DVD player, you'll probably be connecting through a digital cable which would mean that the digital-analog conversion would be the job of the receiver.  This is a good thing because the DACs of your receiver (whatever it might be) will probably be better than that of your DVD player.

Title: Receivers
Post by: MeowPao on Dec 31, 2001 at 09:26 AM

That Marantz might probably cost me an arm and a leg.  :-[
And from what I've asked so far, the Denon too.  :-[

I'm actually eyeing that new Yamaha RX-V1200. It says Min. RMS Output power of 80W, but Maximum Power (EIAJ) of 125W. Is this ok, or is it underpowered? This has the new ones, like Pro Logic 2, DTS Neo and Discrete 6.1. So far, I've been asking around, and no one still has this, bec. its quite new. Now, if it goes over P30K, forget it!

My other choice is that Yamaha RX-V800. This is around P23K. Got all the important stuff, DTS, Dolby Digital, DTS-ES, 6.1 Matrix, Pro Logic.

Back to the question of Music CDs in a home theater system, in summary, does it mean that music CDs can:
1. Be heard as Standard 2 channel Stereo
2. Sound better than mini-compos?

But if I were to get a separate stereo receiver, how can you hook that up to a home theater receiver?  ???

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: afterglow on Dec 31, 2001 at 09:37 AM

I admit that I don't know of the pricing of the Marantz receivers but I would suspect they would be in the same price range as the Denons and Yamahas.

You should be able to find the Denon 1602 and 1802 in your price range.  The Yammys are good choices too (I use a 995).  They all have their own sound characteristics though so you really should audition each brand before deciding.

Music CDs can be heard as regular 2-channel stereo by disabling DSP or you can apply any of the effects to it by enabling DSP.  As to whether it will sound better than a mini-compo, that's subjective.  A lot of people find mini-compos appealing because of an unnatural bump in the mid-bass.  Going with separates should give you a more natural sound.

When I said that another option was to go with a separate stereo-only system, I meant getting an amp, pre-amp, cd player and speakers for stereo-only listening.......this would be totally separate from your HT.

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: levi on Jan 01, 2002 at 05:57 AM

The Yamaha RXV800 is a good receiver. I dont see any reason you wont like it for music and Video. If you want really super perfect music, I guess you need to  triple your budget. Ordinarily the equipments like the Yamaha, denon, HK etc is more than enough to make you happy. Dont mind their wattage, they are more than capable of your desired volume and far from the sound quality of HT in a box. Anyway how big is the area your planning to install your setup? During the Xmas party of PinoyDVD, a setup of RXV800 with B&W600 series speakers were used in a 100 sq meter room which was filled with members. Everyone was fascinated with the output of the system. When you go to shops bring along your favorite CDs so you can listen and evaluate if you will like the sound.

AV Receivers plays music also. You even have the option of making it 2 channel stereo, 3 channel audio (LCR) or even 5/6 channel audio. You can even use the DSP if you like.

You can connect a separate amp for a separate system. Just connect it at the Pre out of your receiver(Pre out is use if you want to use external amplifier). You can even connect a 5/7 channel power amp with your receiver and power your speakers with it rather than the built in 5/7 channel amp of the receiver. Since you are in a tight budget I dont think you need all of this. Check also the receiver since not all models offer pre out.

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 01, 2002 at 06:25 PM

The Kenwood KRF V-9050DS costs around P19k+++.  Well, you get more for your money with all the features like DPL2, 6.1 channel output, and with the 150W/channel output, it can drive your speakers to the max!  I myself own a Kenwood VR-505 DD/DTS receiver and the sound was really great (that's just me).  IMHO, I dunno the difference in terms of sound quality compared to the Denon, Yamaha, Onkyos.  But for sure this receiver gives a lot of bass (as long as your speakers can handle it) especially for the LFEs in movies and also for your audio like rock, new wave, alternative music.  The only thing I didn't like with the Kenwood receiver was the cheesy remote control that looks like a freebie from a cereal box. :-/

With good matching speakers, overall, I'll give it a 2 thumbs up! ;D

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: MeowPao on Jan 02, 2002 at 10:43 AM

Guys,
I've already narrowed down my choices for the receiver, and unless the entry of Marantz messes up my choices, price, availability and where I'll get the thing are the only things left.  :D
Getting a bit confused with the DVD player model, but the brand's definitely Pioneer.  ;)

Now I'll have to decide on the speakers. What I'm sure of is I'll be getting floor standing ones for the L/R.

I'd rather have the entry-level type of speakers (next time na ang mga mid-end, I've got a lot to learn from you guys pa!) . I've found (and seen) the ff. (what do you think of these guys?)
1. Yamaha (heard a bit already)
2. JBL
3. Kenwood
4. Tannoy (Ok ba ito? Do you know of anyone else who sells these?)
5. B&W (still asking around, dunno the prices yet)

nirvblakr,
Kenwood was one of my top choices, but I've hardly seen any review that went with that model. Unless I cannot get my primary choices, then this is the one I might get. :)

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: levi on Jan 02, 2002 at 11:18 AM

Try audioreview.com

  The prices for B&W for the 300 series (303) is 9T+ for the bookshelf and 8T+ for LCR 3 (Center). I saw in alabang town center they still have the floorstanding model 305 and its around 20T. If you can stretch your budget further you can try the 600 series. Bookshelf 601 14T+ while the 602 18T+. The 603 floorstanding is 32T +. Try the bookshelf speakers also, it might be enough for you. Im planning to buy another set of B&W thats why Im quite familiar with the prices.

  If you want to buy speakers, I suggest get a good one but if you are in a tight budget, then do it part by part. You dont change speakers very often so, might as well do it right from the start. You can start with the front then center then rear then subwoofers. I wont recommend that you buy speakers then after a while get another set.  Sometimes the prices of the entry level of branded speakers are almost the same as the commercial speakers. In my experience, I made a side by side comparison of B&W 303 (bookshelf) with Yamaha floor stander and I chose B&W. Lesser Bass but the clarity made me decide to go for B&W since I have a subwoofer that can do the job. Just my 1 cent.

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: MeowPao on Jan 02, 2002 at 11:51 AM

Levi,

Where will you get your B&Ws? What place can you recommend where I can aution these speakers (and get them at a reasonable price)?

BTW, those prices for the B&Ws, are they per piece or per pair (pardon my ignorance!)  ;)

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: afterglow on Jan 02, 2002 at 12:30 PM

I agree with Levi that you should try to get the best speakers you can afford, even if that means going about it piece-by-piece.  Loudspeaker technology isn't evolving nearly as fast as other electronics and a good set will take you through several changes of receivers....

I also can't stress enough that you should audition everything you can.  We're giving you ideas as to what brands we personally have had experience with but in the end, let YOUR ears decide.  Who knows, you might like something much cheaper or much more expensive than B&Ws....

I think the B&W showroom is on West Ave.  Don't know exactly where....  I think Listening in Style (Shangrila) also carries them.  It's probably out of your budget but you should give the B&W Nautilus line a listen....ang ganda!!  Check out if Listening in Style still has some Dynaudios on sale....these are really great for music (almost bought a pair).

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: levi on Jan 02, 2002 at 01:03 PM

I got my B&W at Listening Room Megamall. For me its the nearest and best priced for me. You might find other shops that can sell it at a lower price. There is a B&W shop in shangrila beside sight and sound at the 4th floor. They have good prices also and you can try different models. The West Ave branch is more expensive since it is their main shop. Usually dealers sell at a lower price than the distributor.

I can only recommend B&W since this is what Im using, you can try other brands also. The prices are for pair except the center.

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 04, 2002 at 01:35 AM

Quote

nirvblakr,
Kenwood was one of my top choices, but I've hardly seen any review that went with that model. Unless I cannot get my primary choices, then this is the one I might get. :)

If you want a full demo of the features and how the Kenwood amp sounds, you are always welcome on my pad.  It goes great with my speakers for both audio and theater.  Hindi ako salesman ng Kenwood amp pero I'm just proud to have one and am fully satisfied with it. ;D

I think everybody here in the forum is just proud of their systems and may always market them as the best kaya I know your predicament with all the suggestions given.  Nakakalito no? :o

I just suggest that if you will audition for speakers, listen to one expensive set maybe a B&W set which you think might be the best and make this a reference point in auditioning other speakers for both audio and theater.  Then listen to different audio tracks for highs, mids and bass so you could discern clarity for voice and at the same time have adequate bass.  The best dyan ang Eagles DVD kasi it tests well for the highs, mids and adequate bass.

As I have noticed in the mini component speakers that are mass marketed today, they really emphasize on the bass (kaya ang lalaki ng mga drivers/woofers nila) which is not a good gauge for good speakers.  Paano nalang kung mahilig ka pala sa jazz and hindi rock or new wave diba?  Pakinggan mo ang clarity ng voice--->ang labo and muffled! Parang underwater ang kumakanta.  You can only hear this difference if you have listened to high fidelity/full range speakers initially. :D

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: bently on Jan 05, 2002 at 11:01 AM

sorry to delete your post Crispy_Party but creating a new thread in the home theater forum just to promote your sale seems to be inappropriate...

so i'll just post the details of your sale here

bently

Crispy_Party wrote:

For those looking for a home theater in a box, i'm selling my Boston Acoustics DT6000 home theater.  You can look at my thread on the "Assorted Buy and Sell" forum.  The title of the thread is "FS: Boston Acoustics DT6000 HT".  Anyone interested can text me at 0917-5255515.  Thanks

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: levi on Feb 12, 2002 at 10:45 AM

Bringing this up for Sickboy..........

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: levi on Mar 14, 2002 at 09:47 AM

Reposting for Bien_Cresini:

Quote

Hi!

I was at Glorietta yesterday and chance upon the
DVD-AV receiver X-HTD1 from Pioneer and was impressed
and now I'm planning to buy it (Price was 27,990)

The package includes a passive subwoofer and 5 satellite
speakers.

I am upgrading from my pro-logic Aiwa AV-X220,  and would want to know valuable inputs before finally deciding to
buy one. (After convincing my wife in buying, which is hard)

Is it a good buy?

Your comments/inputs would be appreciated.

Thanks!

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: bently on Mar 14, 2002 at 10:21 AM

just read some very good reviews on the POLK DS7200
MSRP $2599, but street price is around $1795
.00 - $1999.90  (http://search.shopping.yahoo.com/search/all?is=1&p=DS7200&tool=0&did=)
(http://www.polkaudio.com/images/home/medium/black/ds7200.jpg)

here are some links
onhifi.com (http://www.onhifi.com/features/20010515.htm)
consumerguide.com (http://www.consumerguide.com/index.cfm?act=electronics&main=detail&body=../electronicschannel/review/product21443)
polkaudio
.com (http://www.polkaudio.com/home/library/reviews/view.php?category=1)

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: levi on Apr 20, 2002 at 02:16 AM

Reposting for CM500

Please help me decide which HTIB to get.  I have limited my choices to these 2 brands:

Sony DAV-S500 DVD System
Price = PhP 38,000
http://www.videodirect.com/sony/dvd/dav-s500.html

Pioneer HTZ77DVD System
Price = PhP 33,500
http://www.av.pioneeraus.com.au/av/catalogue/products/lifestyle_systems/htz77dvd/ht77dvd.htm

Which of the 2 systems do you think I should get?

Will look forward to your expert advice.

Thanks in advance for your help!

CM

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: barrid on Apr 20, 2002 at 06:55 AM

welcome to PinoyDVD CM 500,

I remembered yesterday when I responded to your inquiry about the DAV-S500. But now, it seems like your options are getting wider. If you have to choose between Pioneer and Sony, and you live in the Philippines.  Most of the members here will surely say "Take Pioneer"! For the reason of Region Coding capability. If you're still unware about the Region capability. You may want to check the thread R1 vs R3. Hope you find the system suitable for your needs. :)

Keep on posting!

AKA Barrid

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: JT on Apr 21, 2002 at 12:15 AM

Quote from: levi on Apr 20, 2002 at 02:16 AM

Reposting for CM500

Please help me decide which HTIB to get.  I have limited my choices to these 2 brands:

Sony DAV-S500 DVD System
Price = PhP 38,000
http://www.videodirect.com/sony/dvd/dav-s500.html

Pioneer HTZ77DVD System
Price = PhP 33,500
http://www.av.pioneeraus.com.au/av/catalogue/products/lifestyle_systems/htz77dvd/ht77dvd.htm

Which of the 2 systems do you think I should get?

Will look forward to your expert advice.

Thanks in advance for your help!

CM

For me, I would go for SONY DAV-S500 for its SACD capability over Pioneer's MP3.  Both systems are good in DVD movies but SONY has the edge when it comes to audio CD sound. Both costs around P30K if bought here in Singapore.    

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: kyle618 on Apr 21, 2002 at 09:45 PM

hi there... HT folks :D... iam asking kung sulit ba yun HTZ77 DVD kaso lng may DVD player na kami (pioneer 533k) kaya we were hoping kung mern sana na separate HT na kasya sa 30k-35k budget namin... may na kita kaming JBL na may speakers and 1 subwoffer na built in na yun receiver duon... ok ba yun or mas ok yun mga HT ng Pioneer

btw... when looking at the 4 HTs that pioneer sells (HTZ33 , HTZ77 etc...) ano yun pinaka bang for buck??? kasi yun HTZ33 26k yun HTZ77 34k ... thx ;D

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: DrPepper on Apr 21, 2002 at 11:47 PM

I guess you might have seen the JBL ESC340.  ;)

Its a great start up and budget system if you have a receiver na. better than what Sony or Pioneer can give you since at least you are sure of the quality from JBL. i will bet my money on a JBL for HT system, as i would on a Sony for a TV, and  Pioneer for my DVD. there are the best in what they do.......specialization is the key here. Also i think for the system.....its technically superior system with a 2-way sats (mey tweeter siya) compared to majority of Satellites systems out there na full-range tapos 8 in subs!!! great impact on the bass!!!! kasi most ht in a box right now have 6 in max na subs. bose nga natipid pa 5 1/4.  

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: JT on Apr 23, 2002 at 04:22 PM

Quote from: kyle618 on Apr 21, 2002 at 09:45 PM

hi there... HT folks :D... iam asking kung sulit ba yun HTZ77 DVD kaso lng may DVD player na kami (pioneer 533k) kaya we were hoping kung mern sana na separate HT na kasya sa 30k-35k budget namin... may na kita kaming JBL na may speakers and 1 subwoffer na built in na yun receiver duon... ok ba yun or mas ok yun mga HT ng Pioneer

btw... when looking at the 4 HTs that pioneer sells (HTZ33 , HTZ77 etc...) ano yun pinaka bang for buck??? kasi yun HTZ33 26k yun HTZ77 34k ... thx ;D

You can also connect your Pioneer 533K dun sa HTZ-77 and just use it for karaoke function. Gaya nung setup ko, I have Samsung DVD-5000k and Pioneer HTZ-55DV.

And regarding the 4 Pioneer HT's, I think the best is Pioneer HTZ-55DV  or HTZ-77. HTZ-55DV has a much better sound (and review) but HTZ-77 has MP3 capability.  Both also have active subwoofers not like other Pioneer models.

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: stuazon on Apr 25, 2002 at 07:58 AM

Hi Guys,

          Check out our PARAMOUNT PICTURES HOME THEATER in one box system. It contains a receiver with dvd player both Dolby Digital and DTS capable and five speakers and a subwoofer. All for P 28,000.00 only.

           Reviewed at the HI FI Choice and fared very well with the likes of Sony, Pioneer and another brand. Please call Sound & Cinema, 524-8631.

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: stuazon on Apr 25, 2002 at 08:49 AM

The model is HCS 5500. Sells for 400 Pounds in UK. Reviewed alongside Denon ADV-700, Sony DAV-S800, JVC TH-A9R, Panasonic SC-HT70 and Pioneer DCS-100.

The main unit is roughly the same size a typical DVD player, while the speakers are taller than usual " all in one " systems. The subwoofer comes in a matching finish and delivers a powerful 120 watts of bass notes. The dvd player is multi regional, which is an added bonus. There is a negligible difference between this 400 Pound system and most that cost twice its price.

Please come and audition this system and hear for yourself what your peso per watt expence should be.

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: levi on May 23, 2002 at 10:22 PM

Reposting for Dracula,

Quote from: dracula on May 23, 2002 at 05:33 PM

I have a sony HT-in a box the set comes with five satellite speakers real small ones and an active sub-woofer.  I was wondering can i upgrade this ht by buying larger speakers for the satellites without recking the receiver of course.  I asked sony if pwede sabi hindi daw pero the receiver has a setting which allows for larger speakers.  I wanted to change speakers so that i could hear bass sounds from other speakers aside from the sub.  The manual said that if the setting is for large speakers the bass is distributed while if the setting is small the bass signal is cut for the front center and rear speaker and diverted to the sub.  Well can I or can't I change my speakers? ???

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: levi on May 23, 2002 at 10:23 PM

Reposting for Cybermms,

Quote from: cybermms on May 23, 2002 at 08:37 PM

Hi Dracula,

You have to check the specs of the amp. HT in a box of whatever brand, i.e. Pioneer, Sony or Panasonic, usually has a very low power output of about 25-30 watts per channel. There's hardly any room for a decent bookshelve speaker with power output of from 75-100 watts.

The speaker set-up of either "Large" or "Small" I think is limited to how you want the bass distributed and not related to power output at all.

This is the usual problem with mini's or HT's in a box - they are not upgradable.

cybermms

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: lexmil on May 25, 2002 at 04:55 PM

To all,

I haven't gone through all the messages in this thread and in others but I noticed one area that hasn't been discusses at length.  That is electric power consumption.  Either this is a non-issue for HT  lovers and audiophiles or it is just overlooked.  

I remember scouting for a good AV receiver about 3 years back and one dealer at megamall cautioned me not to get any Pioneer AVRs.  He then directed me to the back panel of a mid=priced Pinoeer AVR and lo and behold, the power consumption is 1100 watts!!!  That's the equivalent of a flat-ron or a 1 horsepower airconditioner.  He showever the back panel of other brands, yamaha, onkyo, kenwook and for the same amplifier rating and number of channels (all 5.1) the power consumption is anywhere between 500 to 700
watts.

I guess for those who can afford it, you wouldn't mind listening to music or watching movies for hours on end on a Pioneer equipment that consumes power like hell.  (Are you paying the electric bill or some else?)  In my case, it's enough to have the aircon on while listening to music or watching a movie for about 4-6 hours on weekends knowing I do not have the equivalent of a flat iron or another aircondition in my listening room.

Does anyone other there have the same concern as I do?

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: levi on May 26, 2002 at 12:42 AM

Quote from: lexmil on May 25, 2002 at 04:55 PM

To all,

I haven't gone through all the messages in this thread and in others but I noticed one area that hasn't been discusses at length.  That is electric power consumption.  Either this is a non-issue for HT  lovers and audiophiles or it is just overlooked.  

I remember scouting for a good AV receiver about 3 years back and one dealer at megamall cautioned me not to get any Pioneer AVRs.  He then directed me to the back panel of a mid=priced Pinoeer AVR and lo and behold, the power consumption is 1100 watts!!!  That's the equivalent of a flat-ron or a 1 horsepower airconditioner.  He showever the back panel of other brands, yamaha, onkyo, kenwook and for the same amplifier rating and number of channels (all 5.1) the power consumption is anywhere between 500 to 700
watts.

I guess for those who can afford it, you wouldn't mind listening to music or watching movies for hours on end on a Pioneer equipment that consumes power like hell.  (Are you paying the electric bill or some else?)  In my case, it's enough to have the aircon on while listening to music or watching a movie for about 4-6 hours on weekends knowing I do not have the equivalent of a flat iron or another aircondition in my listening room.

Does anyone other there have the same concern as I do?

Hi Lexmil, Welcome to PinoyDVD,

    I think your off topic. This thread is about Hometheater in a Box. I will just create a new thread for you. Thanks

Power Consumption  (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=11;action=display;threadid=4227)

levi

Title: Kenwood vs. Pioneer
Post by: Dracula on Jun 20, 2002 at 07:19 PM

I'm trying to help a friend decide which to buy a kenwood mini component with a built-in dvd player and can play mp3 or a pioneer htb which also has a dvd player. kenwood is dolby prologic and dolby digital with dts digital out while pioneer has both dd and dts surround. which would you buy? :D

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: levi on Jun 21, 2002 at 12:31 AM

Reposting

Quote from: dracula on Jun 20, 2002 at 07:19 PM

I'm trying to help a friend decide which to buy a kenwood mini component with a built-in dvd player and can play mp3 or a pioneer htb which also has a dvd player. kenwood is dolby prologic and dolby digital with dts digital out while pioneer has both dd and dts surround. which would you buy? :D

Title: Re:Kenwood vs. Pioneer
Post by: levi on Jun 21, 2002 at 12:33 AM

Hi Dracula,

   Since your comparing HTIB, I will transfer your post to HT in a Box  (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=1617) thread. Thanks


Locking
Levi

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: JT on Jun 21, 2002 at 11:56 AM

Quote from: dracula on Jun 20, 2002 at 07:19 PM

I'm trying to help a friend decide which to buy a kenwood mini component with a built-in dvd player and can play mp3 or a pioneer htb which also has a dvd player. kenwood is dolby prologic and dolby digital with dts digital out while pioneer has both dd and dts surround. which would you buy? :D

I have tested both Kenwood and Pioneer DVD compo units.  Kenwood has a slight advantage over Pioneer on its Dolby Digital decoding and for its audio quality. However,  sooner or later you will be yearning for the DTS  decoding capability in which Pioneer has the advantage.  

Based from experience also,  Kenwood is a bit sensitive with scratches on disc not compared to Pioneer.  

Recommendation:
Don't go for DVD compo, get the other Pioneer or Sony HTIB models which has a much better audio quality (only disadvantage is that it doesnt have tape deck).  

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: Dracula on Jun 21, 2002 at 02:15 PM

Quote from: JT on Jun 21, 2002 at 11:56 AM

Quote from: dracula on Jun 20, 2002 at 07:19 PM

I'm trying to help a friend decide which to buy a kenwood mini component with a built-in dvd player and can play mp3 or a pioneer htb which also has a dvd player. kenwood is dolby prologic and dolby digital with dts digital out while pioneer has both dd and dts surround. which would you buy? :D

I have tested both Kenwood and Pioneer DVD compo units.  Kenwood has a slight advantage over Pioneer on its Dolby Digital decoding and for its audio quality. However,  sooner or later you will be yearning for the DTS  decoding capability in which Pioneer has the advantage.  

Based from experience also,  Kenwood is a bit sensitive with scratches on disc not compared to Pioneer.  

Recommendation:
Don't go for DVD compo, get the other Pioneer or Sony HTIB models which has a much better audio quality (only disadvantage is that it doesnt have tape deck).  

Thats what I told her she wouldn't listen well I guess she just wanted a second opinion..............Thanks :D

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: levi on Jul 10, 2002 at 04:45 PM

Reposting

Quote from: lungdoc on Jul 09, 2002 at 08:53 PM

???guys any experience with the kenwood 505 series. im planning to buy this unit.  sulit ba for 26T to 27T???
thanks for the help. :D

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: levi on Jul 10, 2002 at 04:52 PM

Hi lungdoc. Im not familiar with Kenwood but are you referring to this? DVT-505 DVD/receiver home theater system

(http://www.kenwoodusa.com/content/product/image/medium/dvt505_med.jpg)


The DVT-505 includes everything you need for an incredible home theater experience, all in one box. Just connect it to your TV and you're ready to enjoy theater picture and sound that will give your local cineplex a run for its money. Six 40-watt amplifier channels provide the power, and Dolby Digital, DTS and Dolby Pro Logic II provide realistic surround sound with DVDs, cable/satellite broadcasts and VHS tapes. The matched 2-Way left, center and right speakers, full-range surround speakers and subwoofer create a spacious surround sound environment right in your living room, and built-in Cinema EQ optimizes speaker performance. There's a built-in FM/AM tuner, and a full set of digital, analog and video inputs so you can connect the rest of your home entertainment components. The built-in DVD player includes a full array of DVD features like slow motion play, frame advance, and Parental Control, and it also plays CDs, CD-R/RWs, and MP3-encoded CD-R/RW discs. One-button DVD play simplifies operation, and the included remote is pre-programmed to control your TV and other video components like a VCR and cable or satellite tuner.


Recommended Price $600.00 - $700.00

 
KEY FEATURES
- Cinema EQ Optimizes Subwoofer and Satellite Speaker Performance
- Complete Home Theater System with DVD Receiver, Speakers and Subwoofer
- Digital Audio Input for Decoding Digital Surround Soundtracks from Digital Satellite and Cable Programs
- Dolby Digital and DTS Digital Surround Sound
- Dolby Pro Logic II: 5.1-Channel Movies and Music Modes
- Full-Function Remote with Video Pre-Programming
 
GENERAL FEATURES
- 1-Button DVD Play
- Dynamic Control (Automatic Level and Separation Control)
- Full-Function 10-Key Remote: with Video Pre-Programming for VCRs, TVs and Cable/Satellite Tuners
- Status Display: 9-Character Dot Matrix
 
AUDIO FEATURES
- 24-Bit, up to 96kHz Digital Output Capability
- A/D and D/A Converters: 24-Bit Resolution, 96kHz Sampling
- Analog Audio Inputs/Outputs: 3 / 1
- Audio DSP Listening Modes: 3
- Cinema EQ
- Digital Audio Output: 1 Optical
- Digital Signal Format Auto Detection/Auto Switching: DTS, Dolby Digital, and PCM
- Dolby Digital
- Dolby Pro Logic II: 5.1-Channel Movie and Music Modes
- DTS Digital Surround
- Headphone Jack: Stereo Mini-Plug
 
POWER OUTPUT
- Stereo Power (FTC): 40 Watts X 2
- Surround Power: 40 Watts X 6
 
PERFORMANCE FEATURES
- 8-Times Oversampling Digital Filter
 
AMPLIFIER FEATURES
- 5-Channel Amplifier
- Speaker Connectors: Color-Coded, Individually Keyed Connector for Each Speaker
 
MAIN SPEAKER FEATURES
- Finish: Silver
- Magnetically Shielded
- Speaker Connectors: One-Touch
- Tweeter: 1"
- Woofer: 4"
 
CENTER SPEAKER FEATURES
- Finish: Silver
- Magnetically Shielded
- Speaker Connectors: One-Touch
- Tweeter: 1"
- Woofer: 4"
 
DISC PLAYBACK FEATURES
- Audible Fast-Forward/Fast-Reverse
- Dialog Language Function (DVD)
- Disc Capacity: 1 Disc
- Frame Advance (DVD)
- On-Screen Menu System: Multiple-Language
- Parental Control
- Plays DVDs, CDs, CD-Rs, CD-RWs and MP3-Encoded CDs
- Programmable Memory (CD)
- Random Play (CD)
- Repeat Play (CD)
- Slow Motion Play (DVD)
- Subtitle Function (DVD)
 
SURROUND SPEAKER FEATURES
- Built-In Wall-Mount Brackets
- Finish: Silver
- Full-Range Driver: 4"
- Ported Enclosure
- Speaker Connectors: One-Touch
 
SUBWOOFER FEATURES
- Finish: black ash
- Ported enclosure
- Speaker Connectors: One-Touch
- Woofer: 8"
 
TUNER FEATURES
- Automatic and Manual Tuning
- Direct Preset Call: with Remote
- Quartz PLL Synthesized Digital Tuning
- Station Presets
 
VIDEO FEATURES
- Black Level Control
- Digital-to-Analog Converter: 10-Bit
- Front Panel AV/Aux Input: with S-Video and Optical Digital Connections
- Multiple Screen Aspect Ratios
- Video Inputs: 3 Composite, 3 S-Video
- Video Monitor Outputs: 1 Component, 1 S-Video, 1 Composite
- Video Outputs: 1 Composite, 1 S-Video

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: levi on Jul 14, 2002 at 10:17 PM

Reposting

Quote from: kb14 on Jul 14, 2002 at 01:28 AM

ok ba yung pioneer na dvd component? yung my 6 speakers na kasama?or mas better ang pioneer na home theater setup (6 speakers including sub and dvd player).saw it in glorieta actvity center last week (yung promo) and medyo konti lang yung price difference nila.thanks.

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: levi on Aug 03, 2002 at 12:58 AM

Reposting

 

Quote from: bats on Aug 02, 2002 at 02:10 PM

any ideas as to what may be the best buy for a home theatre in a box system...?

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: levi on Aug 19, 2002 at 09:03 PM

Reposting for etivac


Anyone have had first hand experience with the following Kenwood HTIBs?  Feedbacks pls.
   
HTB-205  Kenwood 600-Watt Dolby Digital/DTS Home Theater Audio System with Pro Logic II Decoding —

HTB-505 Kenwood 600-Watt Dolby Digital/DTS Home Theater Audio System with 100-Watt Powered Sub —


They both have pretty good feautures for the price 15k and 25k respectively.  :)
 
 

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: levi on Aug 19, 2002 at 09:04 PM

Reposting

 

Quote from: listener on Aug 19, 2002 at 08:59 PM

etivac

I dont have first hand experience with the Kenwood HTIB system but after hearing similar HTIB packages from Celestion, JBL, Sony, Yamaha etc...all that I can say about HTIB systems is that they offer you a no fuss, bang for your buck approach to Home Theater. You will find almost everything that you will need in these HTIB systems pero the only disadvantage to these kind of systems would be this...mahirap i-upgrade lalo na when you want to add more power to the system. Bihira sa HTIB ang may pre-outs.  question lang...if you are willing to spend 25K for the Kenwood HTIB why not go for the seperate component set up?  dagdag ka na lang ng konti sa budget mo pero mas superior tumunog yun than HTIB systems. upgradable pa to the max.

BTW...dont believe the 600 watt claim of Kenwood...if their system can really pump out 600 watts then that would make it the cheapest 600 watts that is available in the market. real world specs nyang HTIB would be around 25 watts RMS per channel. Beyond that level may distortion na.

just my .02 cents ;D

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: etivac on Aug 21, 2002 at 05:53 PM

IS there a tread here that can help me with < 25k audio setup?

HTIB seems to be good deal for the price/convenience.  IF someone can offer some help/tips/suggestions for a basic setup I'm all ears.  

Some of the features im looking for:
room size : typical bedroom
mostly for movies and video/computer games
5.1/DTS
pro logic 2 for watching vhs tapes

thanks!

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: listener on Aug 21, 2002 at 10:42 PM

etivac

why dont you try the "home theater on a budget thread".  You might be surprised as to what your budget can get you in terms of component type HT instead of HTIB systems.

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: levi on Sep 03, 2002 at 01:08 AM

Reposting for Greatbop,

Hi!! I'm just wondering if there's any where in Manila where you can get kenwood's HTB- 405? My friend in the philippines wants to get one. Kaso I won't be back till augusto of next year. Kenwood Phils don't carry them and sell some cr@ptastic overpriced badly featured hts set for like 40k..


She's not willing to spend any more than a 500  bucks on an hts eh. Otherwise i would of recommended Energy's Take 5+1 system or the least - Athena's point 5 system..


I mean for 400 USD, you get a pretty good receiver, with a nice amout of feature. OK set of speakers, decent center channel. It's all she needs dahil she's just gonna be using it on her fiarly small room.

Anyway... reply would be appreciated!!

Oh yeah.. just wondering, magkano ang benta ng 3802 dyan?

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: levi on Sep 03, 2002 at 01:09 AM

Reposting

Quote from: GLXi95 on Sep 02, 2002 at 08:36 AM

sa western meron mga kenwood na HTIB ako nakita..

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: levi on Sep 03, 2002 at 01:09 AM

Reposting

Quote from: greatbop on Sep 02, 2002 at 01:13 PM

Iba yun. It doesn't have half as much features as this one. Tapos it costs almost 40 thousand pa..

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: levi on Sep 03, 2002 at 01:10 AM

Reposting

 

Quote from: MeowPao on Sep 02, 2002 at 01:49 PM

Hi greatbop,

You can go check out 5th Ave. in Park Square Makati. They carry a number of Kenwood stuff.  :)

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: levi on Sep 03, 2002 at 01:15 AM

Reposting

 

Quote from: rtsy on Sep 02, 2002 at 02:44 PM

Heto pampagulo isip...if it's really a small room, will your friend really need a surround system?  

I'd wager that a basic stereo only set-up made from say a Rotel integrated amp (~PHP13k new) + Mission m71 (~PhP8k?) + Pioneer DVD player (<PhP10k) would beat most HTIAB in the same price range.

What do you think?   ;D

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: levi on Sep 03, 2002 at 01:16 AM

Reposting

 

Quote from: greatbop on Sep 02, 2002 at 05:14 PM

err.. the HTiB still comes out cheaper.

Btw.. pansin ko.. Mission is a pretty popular brand dyan sa manila (based on reading a few of your posts..) Why??

I don't acctually hear the brand brought up as much at all sa mga mesageboards na pinpuntahan ko. Btw, i saw that speaker you mention sa flyer awhile ago. and they cost 100 USD lang a pair..

I'm not sure if that stereo  setup would sound nice. I imagive that the mission speaker you gave me is just two way?? I mean yung Kenwood htb's got a 100 watt 8" subwoofer in the box. that alone should have a much deeper low freq rane than those mission speakers..

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: greatbop on Sep 03, 2002 at 01:23 AM

"HTB-205  Kenwood 600-Watt Dolby Digital/DTS Home Theater Audio System with Pro Logic II Decoding &#8212;

HTB-505 Kenwood 600-Watt Dolby Digital/DTS Home Theater Audio System with 100-Watt Powered Sub &#8212; "



Get HTB 405 if you are thinking on getting 205. There's three models (with no dvd), 205, 405 and 505. For 100 dollars more, you get a way better set of speakers than 205.


205's speakers only have 1 full range driver. Compared to 405 which all has 2 drivers. and bigger drivers dun center channel speakers. Bottom line. mas hindi hirap ang speakers mo which equals to better listening pleasure. (for 400 bucks USD, what more can you ask FOR?!?)

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 04, 2002 at 02:26 PM

Try going to 5th Avenue in Park Square, Megamall or Alabang Town Center.  They have Kenwood Receivers matched with Kenwood/Mordaunt Short speakers.  You might find what you are looking for there. ;D

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: JT on Sep 07, 2002 at 05:13 PM

I've tested this baby yesterday... it rocks!!!  It is fully recommended for those with tight budget. Planning to get one this monthend.

(http://sg.tech.lycosasia.com/art_img/13102.jpg)

Check out site for the write ups.

http://sg.tech.lycosasia.com/arts/tcpg/tcpgcg/11851.html

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: levi on Sep 12, 2002 at 12:37 AM

Bump for Gets

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: gets on Sep 12, 2002 at 05:42 AM

thanks levi.

i've posted a question in the ht on a budget... and already set my mind on the:
(http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PIoneer/Images/HTP725DV.jpg)

Pioneer HTP-725DV  (prog.scan, 6.1, DVD-A) ~$600

Quote

This is a real AV power station. The HTP-725DV includes a full-featured AV receiver, DVD player, six 2-way satellite speakers, and a powered subwoofer, delivering a high level of entertainment. The receiver provides high-performance surround decoding and 100 watts x 6 power, plus a full set of convenience features and connections. The DVD unit plays both DVD Video (with hi-res progressive scan) AND DVD Audio, and even your MP3 discs. Add a big screen and you could start charging admission.
 
 
VSX-D811S Digital A/V Receiver

Power: 100 Watts 6 @ 8 Ohm
Dolby Digital EX
Dolby Pro-Logic II
DTS-ES Discrete & DTS-NEO:6
Virtual Surround Back
6 Channel Stereo
6.1 Expanded Theater
Midnight Mode
96/24 DAC
4 Audio (inc Tuner) & 4 A/V Inputs
1 Audio, 1 A/V & 1 Video Outputs
5 Digital Inputs (2 coax.,2 opt., Front Opt.)
1 Digital Output
S-Video (4 in / 2 out)
Component Video (2 In / 1 Out)
Front AV Input w/ S-Video & Opt Digital In
7.1 Ch. Inputs / Pre-Out 5.1 (+ 2)
Large Banana Speaker Terminals - All
Dual Surround Back Speaker Terminals
Smart Remote
Quick Set-up Room Tuning
Tuner Editing w/Station Naming
DV-656A DVD-A & Progressive Scan DVD Player

DVD-Audio Playback
MP-3 Compatible
Progressive Scan with 2/3 Pull-Down
Advanced GUI w/ Set-up Navigator
Twin-Wave Laser Pick-up
192kHz/24-Bit DAC
10-Bit / 27Mhz Video DAC w/Vitter-Bi error correction
6 Piece 2-Way Satellite Loudspeakers

3/4 inch Piezo tweeter
3 Inch Midrange Woofer
High Frequency Wave Guide
Integrated Low Diffraction Baffle
Freq. Response: 150 - 20KHz
Sensitivity: 85 dB @ 1m/2.83V ms
Maximum output: 102 dB SPL
Amp requirements: 15-100 Watts
100 Watt Powered Subwoofer

8 Inch Woofer
Bass Reflex Enclosure
Low standby power consumption (less than 1W)
Transformer-less dynamic power supply
Bass Level Control  

what do you think?
do any of you guys know any other $300-$400 htib that could be alternatives for this one?

Thanks.

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: ferdie on Sep 15, 2002 at 11:04 PM

hello guys!
any comments/suggestions on this system - Denon ADV-700 at P30,000 including 5 satellites and subwoofer(active)?may mas maganda pa bang makukuha at this price?
any comments/suggestions would be helpful.
thanks! :)

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: foxyyy on Sep 16, 2002 at 02:05 AM

Quote from: ferdie on Sep 15, 2002 at 11:04 PM

hello guys!
any comments/suggestions on this system - Denon ADV-700 at P30,000 including 5 satellites and subwoofer(active)?may mas maganda pa bang makukuha at this price?
any comments/suggestions would be helpful.
thanks! :)

i think its a best buy for me, price/performane wise.  wat store r selling this units?  :)

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: ferdie on Sep 16, 2002 at 04:49 AM

hello foxxy!
thanks for your reply.my wife is bringing it in from hongkong.may suki kasi kami doon. :)

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: foxyyy on Sep 17, 2002 at 02:25 AM

Quote from: gets on Sep 12, 2002 at 05:42 AM

thanks levi.

i've posted a question in the ht on a budget... and already set my mind on the:
(http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PIoneer/Images/HTP725DV.jpg)

Pioneer HTP-725DV  (prog.scan, 6.1, DVD-A) ~$600

what store do sell this system here in the phils? particularly in cebu or metro manila? contact numbers?how much?  ;D

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: bunkieboy on Sep 17, 2002 at 09:21 PM

i know someone who bought one of those all in one systems by sony. they sound pretty good. the only setback though was when we put up the volume when watching action flicks like Vertical Limit, the movie would freeze or skip. Even just with the gunshot effects of the godfather made the thing skip. i dont know if this is an isolated case though. just my $0.02

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: levi on Sep 26, 2002 at 12:41 AM

Bump

Title: Re:JBL DSC-400 and Pioneer HTiBs
Post by: The Stig on Oct 17, 2002 at 03:52 AM

hello, was gonna start a new thread but remembered this one. anyway, a friend of mine is determined to purchase a HT system, she asked me what kind of system she can get for her budget of 25 to 30K. i said i dont think you can build a decent system for that amount (please inform me if i am mistaken ;)). somebody else informed her that a HTiB setup would fit perfectly in her budget and she was convinced to get one. after a trip to automatic centre she decided she liked pioneer's HTZ-77DV although the HTD-510? was also ok. another time i was in podium and saw this JBL HTiB on display although i wasnt able to see it up close since the store was closed. i searched it on the net and i believe what i saw was the DSC-400.

i would appreciate any reviews you could give me on these systems. which one is the best buy for you? any suggestions for other products? any info would help :)

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: Courage on Oct 17, 2002 at 08:15 AM

I have the same budget when i bought my system..but i did get a descent HT...and its better than those HTIB around......with a 25-30k budget u can buy Denon or a Yamaha...and i thinks its better than HTIB

Fellow members help me in building up my system..and its kewl..

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: The Stig on Oct 18, 2002 at 02:16 AM

thanks for the info Xander. so is it really possible to assemble the whole setup, a player, AV receiver, 5.1 speakers plus a subwoofer for 30K? Denon or Yamaha pa? Thats certainly a great deal! if you dont mind, could you post your setup along with where you got these finds. if i can find something like that then i would get one for myself too :)

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: Courage on Oct 18, 2002 at 10:07 AM

Yup..it is very possible...just saw Yammy RXV-430,RXV-520 and RXV-620 on sale sa D'Cinema at festival mall. Yung RXV-430 eh 22-23K ata..with the Yamaha NSP-220 5.1 Speaker set..tapos bili ka na nang player...yung samsung s128 is only 7,500...

The RXV-430 naka DPL II na

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: Titanium on Oct 18, 2002 at 10:32 AM

hajime,

sent u a PM.

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: The Stig on Oct 18, 2002 at 01:04 PM

Quote from: Xander on Oct 18, 2002 at 10:07 AM

Yung RXV-430 eh 22-23K ata..with the Yamaha NSP-220 5.1 Speaker set

hey Xander, thanks for the reply, so the RXV-430 receiver plus the NSP-220 speakers add up to 23k? would you happen to know how much they are sold separately? thanks :)

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: Courage on Oct 19, 2002 at 08:29 AM

hajime,

last time i saw at D'Cinema the RXV430 is being sold for only 16K..i dont know about the NSP220 pero if u add it up dun sa promo sale nila pumapatak na 7K lang yung NSP220

There is a member here who is selling their NSP220 and NSP320 si titanium ata at si don...you can contact them..they are selling theirs very cheap..

The NSP320 is more better than the 220's..mas mataas ang wattage nun though pareho lang sila nang kasamang sub 50 watts.

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: The Stig on Oct 21, 2002 at 08:07 AM

thanks for all the info man :)

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: dexterc on Oct 21, 2002 at 08:14 AM

Hajime sent you pm: re nsp 220 speakers  ;D

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: Titanium on Oct 21, 2002 at 02:35 PM

Quote

There is a member here who is selling their NSP220 and NSP320 si titanium ata at si don...you can contact them..they are selling theirs very cheap..

Now that you have mentioned it, Im still selling my 4 months old NSP 320 for only P9000. Contact me at 09175279840 or PM me if interested.

Thnks Courage. Di ko na makita post ko dun sa classified. ;)

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: JT on Oct 27, 2002 at 01:47 AM

Guys, i-save nyo na yung X-Mas bonus nyo and watch out for this ultimate HT in a box by Pioneer.

(http://www.noblepr.co.uk/Press_Releases/pioneer/images/nsdv-1000/pack.gif)


Key features of Pioneer NS-DV1000:

Universal playback Compatible with DVD-Audio/SACD/SACD Multi-channel/DVD-Video/DVD-R/DVD-RW/CD-R/CD-RW/CD-DA/VideoCD/MP3

RW Compatible (including CPRM) Plays DVD-R/RW discs in Video Mode and Video Recording (VR) Mode

CD-R/RW compatible including MP3. Un-finalised CD-DA recordings can also be played, although time display and scan/skip functionality is limited due to absence of TOC

Unique OEL Separate Display - features sophisticated type font & motion graphics in 6 Languages (English/Dutch/French/German/ Italian/Spanish)

Advanced Graphic User Interface for DVD

DVD-Audio, SACD, Dolby Digital and DTS decoding + Dolby Pro Logic II

Virtual Surround Back (Virtual 6.1 channel)

TV Surround / Headphone Virtual Surround

Easy Room Size setup and Seat Position setup

108MHz/12-bit Video DAC Digital NR / Super Fine Focus Digital Filter / Mosquito Noise and Block Noise DNR

192kHz / 24-bit Audio DACs

High Quality Aluminium Construction (with detachable polished wood-effect side panels)

2-way satellite speakers in Aluminium enclosures; tweeters' high frequency response extends to 60kHz

Active subwoofer with Nextel-type finish in dark grey

High Power Output: total 450W RMS (360W DIN)

Comprehensive Input & Output Terminals:

1 x Euro-SCART socket (input/output, with RGB)

Video Inputs: 3 x composite video (RCA); 3 x S-Video

Audio Inputs: 3 pairs stereo line inputs (RCA), plus the SCART

Video Outputs: 1 x composite video (RCA); 1 x S-Video; 1 x SCART with RGB

Digital Inputs: 2 x Optical

Digital Output: 1 x Optical

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: greatbop on Oct 27, 2002 at 02:29 AM

not to be a party pooper or something. pero what can you expect off those dinggy speakers and a subwoofer like that. sayang lang ang sacd playback. cause nde mo naman magagamit sa music ang mga speakers na yan eh. it might be fine for movies. pero for music.. it's a quation mark.

Title: HT in a box
Post by: Jayem Ares on Nov 16, 2002 at 12:09 PM

ive watched fresh gear lately. they featured home theater in a box. cost below $500... so mga P25k more or  less...saan store kaya available na. what is advisable brand. what are the commendable features.

Title: Re:HT in a box
Post by: greatbop on Nov 16, 2002 at 05:09 PM

Umm.. don't bother with HTiBs. for 600-700 usd, you can get a better system.. Energy Take 5+1 (the old model + the e:xl8 sub) is 500 usd. tapos just throw in a cheap a/v receiver. and you're set.

Fresh Gear features a bunch of stuff you can get off Best Buy - not the best place to buy speakers, ya?

Title: Re:HT in a box
Post by: Jayem Ares on Nov 16, 2002 at 06:45 PM

they featured $500 or below.
jvc, panasonic & rca
interesado ako, meron din kaya d2

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: Dracula on Dec 11, 2002 at 02:25 PM

Do the sony HTIB's still have trouble playing r1 dvd's?

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: Courage on Dec 11, 2002 at 02:33 PM

Last time na nagpunta ako sa Avid..yung mga HTIB nila eh Multi Region na...ewan ko lang kung RCE eh ok na din

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: redkoji on Dec 11, 2002 at 04:20 PM

Hey dude,

Call us....we might be of help. 5225698, we have special packages right now for Sony items and seperates that could be afflicable to your budget

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: Chet on Dec 15, 2002 at 06:33 PM

Do any of the dvd players/receivers bundled in HT in box packages have progressive scan?

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: redkoji on Dec 16, 2002 at 12:49 PM

Maraming packages...so check nyo na lang

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: Mo®pHeOu$ on Dec 17, 2002 at 11:23 AM

 ;D ;D ;D

Saw the new Samsung HTiB DVD player in Ansons ATC.  With progressive scan feature.  Will post the details once i get hold the brochure that I got.  Wasn't able to catch the price kasi nagmamadali ako nun, napadaan lang sa Ansons. ;)

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: Dracula on Dec 17, 2002 at 06:12 PM

Quote from: redkoji on Dec 11, 2002 at 04:20 PM

Hey dude,

Call us....we might be of help. 5225698, we have special packages right now for Sony items and seperates that could be afflicable to your budget

where is your shop located? do you accept credit cards citibank paylite terms?

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: jerix on Dec 23, 2002 at 10:57 AM

if ur lookin for better home theater better get separate compo system. Sa tingin ko if your DVD is a pioneer get also a pioneer receiver, para walang problem sa matching.

M a singer (kung lasing,,hik!!) and madalas ang inuman sa bahay kaya i got the pioneer 3 disc dvd changer model 302 c yata yon, para wala nang tayuan. that model can read dvds with sampling rate of 96/24 khz. with karaoke function na rin.

for my receiver, m using the pioneer vsx d811s-s, 120 w x 6 channels, DD-ex and DTS-es. both are user freindly and easy to set-up. if ur into action movies, i think this is the best. so far, this is the latest in the market. you can check this out in the pioneer show room.

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: DViant on Dec 26, 2002 at 01:13 PM

What do you think of Onkyo's HT-S755DVC? I know this is a form of heresy to a lot of audiophiles but what can I say.... I'm clueless in HT and I'm on a budget but want the latest and greatest!

Details:
(http://a.r.tv.com/cnet.1d/i/ce/ps/440/20406466_440_1.gif)
General
Product type DVD player / AV receiver / speakers

Components DVD changer, AV receiver, speaker system

(http://a.r.tv.com/cnet.1d/i/ce/ps/440/9740735_440_1.gif)
Onkyo TX-SR600 receiver

Output power 480 Watt
Audio Features
Surround decoders DTS decoder, Dolby Digital, Dolby Pro Logic II

Surround power 80 x 6 Watt

Response bandwidth 10 - 100000 Hz
Video Features
Additional features Progressive scan
Connectivity
Optical digital output Yes

Coaxial digital output Yes

Component video output Yes

S-Video output Yes

Video output Yes
DVD
DVD component DVD changer

Disc capacity 5

Media format DVD, CD-R, CD-RW, VCD

MP3 playback Yes
Speaker
Speaker type 2 x satellite speakers, 2 x surround channel speakers, 1 x center channel speaker, 1 x subwoofer

Speaker drivers Satellite: 2 x 5.25" woofer / 1" tweeter, surround: 4" woofer / 1" tweeter, center: 2 x 4" woofer / 1" tweeter, subwoofer: 8" woofer

All for $999.

Full review with details may be found at http://electronics.cnet.com/electronics/0-9400734-1305-20406466-1.html?tag=rating

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: DViant on Dec 26, 2002 at 04:41 PM

Meron bang HTiB with THX? Would you need a DVD player that can output THX or would any DVD that can output DVD or DTS do?

Sorry for the rather "dumb" questions but I don't know squat and I want to learn. :)

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: DViant on Dec 26, 2002 at 04:51 PM

If you're interested on how the rear of the amp looks like click on http://www.gspr.com/onkyo/images/txsr600_rear_300.jpg (http://www.gspr.com/onkyo/images/txsr600_rear_300.jpg). A warning though the image is 1961x839 pixels big. That's why I didn't link it as a picture. :)

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: Kings on Dec 26, 2002 at 05:08 PM

Quote from: DViant on Dec 26, 2002 at 04:51 PM

If you're interested on how the rear of the amp looks like click on http://www.gspr.com/onkyo/images/txsr600_rear_300.jpg (http://www.gspr.com/onkyo/images/txsr600_rear_300.jpg). A warning though the image is 1961x839 pixels big. That's why I didn't link it as a picture. :)

bro, is this available here in the Phils ? Where did you find this and how much does it cost ?

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: Rnold on Dec 26, 2002 at 05:36 PM

Quote from: Kings on Dec 26, 2002 at 05:08 PM

Quote from: DViant on Dec 26, 2002 at 04:51 PM

If you're interested on how the rear of the amp looks like click on http://www.gspr.com/onkyo/images/txsr600_rear_300.jpg (http://www.gspr.com/onkyo/images/txsr600_rear_300.jpg). A warning though the image is 1961x839 pixels big. That's why I didn't link it as a picture. :)

bro, is this available here in the Phils ? Where did you find this and how much does it cost ?

give rene of hyperaudio a call at 8325710

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: DViant on Dec 26, 2002 at 05:53 PM

Quote from: Kings on Dec 26, 2002 at 05:08 PM

Quote from: DViant on Dec 26, 2002 at 04:51 PM

If you're interested on how the rear of the amp looks like click on http://www.gspr.com/onkyo/images/txsr600_rear_300.jpg (http://www.gspr.com/onkyo/images/txsr600_rear_300.jpg). A warning though the image is 1961x839 pixels big. That's why I didn't link it as a picture. :)

bro, is this available here in the Phils ? Where did you find this and how much does it cost ?

Looking for a source. I called the local Onkyo Distributor (Tomaka) and they said they will NOT be carrying this model as it is designated for the American market. I'm looking for the Asian version of this unit as we speak.

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: DViant on Dec 26, 2002 at 05:54 PM

Quote from: Rnold on Dec 26, 2002 at 05:36 PM

Quote from: Kings on Dec 26, 2002 at 05:08 PM

Quote from: DViant on Dec 26, 2002 at 04:51 PM

If you're interested on how the rear of the amp looks like click on http://www.gspr.com/onkyo/images/txsr600_rear_300.jpg (http://www.gspr.com/onkyo/images/txsr600_rear_300.jpg). A warning though the image is 1961x839 pixels big. That's why I didn't link it as a picture. :)

bro, is this available here in the Phils ? Where did you find this and how much does it cost ?

give rene of hyperaudio a call at 8325710

Called the number and it's his house! Do you have the # of his shop?

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: Rnold on Dec 26, 2002 at 05:58 PM

Quote from: DViant on Dec 26, 2002 at 05:54 PM

Quote from: Rnold on Dec 26, 2002 at 05:36 PM

Quote from: Kings on Dec 26, 2002 at 05:08 PM

Quote from: DViant on Dec 26, 2002 at 04:51 PM

If you're interested on how the rear of the amp looks like click on http://www.gspr.com/onkyo/images/txsr600_rear_300.jpg (http://www.gspr.com/onkyo/images/txsr600_rear_300.jpg). A warning though the image is 1961x839 pixels big. That's why I didn't link it as a picture. :)

bro, is this available here in the Phils ? Where did you find this and how much does it cost ?

give rene of hyperaudio a call at 8325710

Called the number and it's his house! Do you have the # of his shop?

house and shop is the same number :) or you can txt him at 0917-9761009

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: DViant on Dec 26, 2002 at 06:44 PM

Onkyo HT-S755DVC (HTiB)

Slate/MSN's review (http://slate.msn.com/id/2075930/) (You gotta scroll down to the bottom to read it)
CNet's review (http://electronics.cnet.com/electronics/0-9400734-1305-20406466-1.html?tag=rating)

Pics:
Front Side (http://www.gspr.com/onkyo/images/hts755dvc_300.jpg)

Onkyo TX-SR600 (Amp of the HTiB)

CNet's review (http://electronics.cnet.com/electronics/0-6342373-1305-9740735-1.html?tag=rating)
CHT's review (http://www.cheaphometheater.com/Onkyo%20TX-SR600.htm)
AudioReview's review (http://www.audioreview.com/PRD_130453_2718crx.aspx)

Pics:
Front Side (http://www.gspr.com/onkyo/images/txsr600_front_300.jpg)
Back Side (http://www.gspr.com/onkyo/images/txsr600_rear_300.jpg)
Remote (http://www.gspr.com/onkyo/images/txsr600_remote_300.jpg)

Onkyo DV-CP500 (DVD player of the HTiB)

Pics:
Front Side (http://www.gspr.com/onkyo/images/dvcp500_front_300.jpg)
Back Side (http://www.gspr.com/onkyo/images/dvcp500_rear_300.jpg)

All the images are BIG

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: tABs on Dec 26, 2002 at 06:47 PM

Quote from: DViant on Dec 26, 2002 at 04:41 PM

Meron bang HTiB with THX? Would you need a DVD player that can output THX or would any DVD that can output DVD or DTS do?

Sorry for the rather "dumb" questions but I don't know squat and I want to learn. :)

AFAIK (pls correct me if i'm wrong), THX is usually found only on high-end models.

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: DViant on Dec 26, 2002 at 06:56 PM

Quote from: tABs on Dec 26, 2002 at 06:47 PM

Quote from: DViant on Dec 26, 2002 at 04:41 PM

Meron bang HTiB with THX? Would you need a DVD player that can output THX or would any DVD that can output DVD or DTS do?

Sorry for the rather "dumb" questions but I don't know squat and I want to learn. :)

AFAIK (pls correct me if i'm wrong), THX is usually found only on high-end models.

From what I undestand it's just a quality standard for audio/visual.

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: DViant on Dec 26, 2002 at 07:48 PM

The Onkyo HT-S755DVC (HTiB) may not be offered here in the Philippines but the Onkyo TX-SR600 (Amp of the HTiB) might be as it is available on the Onkyo Asia (http://www.onkyo-intl.com/onkyo/products/productdetail/5532) website.

Now the question is what speakers will I use to hook this up with?

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: tABs on Dec 27, 2002 at 04:16 AM

i checked  audio/video shop here, u were right. it 's just like dts/dd, but the highest standard IMO, kasi yun mga AVR na may THX ay worth more than 50K (in pesos) na. i saw an onkyo avr (797 yata yun), it has THX ES, costs sr4700 (php66K+). models below that 797 only has dts-es and dd-ex.

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: v0elker on Dec 27, 2002 at 10:02 AM

hmmm, as im just starting out in ht, and a lot o people have told me not to be too impressed with the thx cert, since they are standards for equipment and not sound quality. for ex, they told me that thx-cert amps doesnt necessarily mean they're better sounding than non-thx amps.

for P66k, i think you can already get a nad or rotel av receiver

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: DViant on Dec 27, 2002 at 11:39 AM

For my needs I just need an AVR that's a bit "future-proof". I know technology changes very fast but the DD ES & dts EX are just starting to trickle down to mid-level markets. I think an amp with these standards will last about 3-5 years til you may feel like upgrading. :)

Title: Recommended HTIB for a 30T budget
Post by: pioneer on Jan 03, 2003 at 07:52 AM

What is the best HTIB (Home Theater In A Box) package for a 30T budget? Thanks.  ;)

Title: Re:Recommended HTIB for a 30T budget
Post by: Courage on Jan 03, 2003 at 09:26 AM

Bro check out the HTIB in a Box thread..ull get many info on HTIB setp ups there

Hapi new year

Title: HTIB-yamaha dvx-s60 or samsung htdm150 or nextbases200
Post by: bigbird2323 on Jan 14, 2003 at 12:34 AM

HTIB-yamaha dvx-s60 at 18k or samsung htdm150 at 16k or nextbase s200,which would you suggest i get between the 3.or would a sakura amp with wharfedale moviestar60 be a better than an htib.Im on a budget that why i have limited choices.

Title: Re:HTIB-yamaha dvx-s60 or samsung htdm150 or nextbases200
Post by: tABs on Jan 14, 2003 at 03:25 AM

go for yamaha...highly recommended...yun lang...

Title: Re:HTIB-yamaha dvx-s60 or samsung htdm150 or nextbases200
Post by: phantom on Jan 14, 2003 at 04:00 AM

Quote from: tABs on Jan 14, 2003 at 03:25 AM

go for yamaha...highly recommended...yun lang...

amen to that! :D
ala na akong masabi, nabanggit na ni tABs e. ;D

Title: Re:HTIB-yamaha dvx-s60 or samsung htdm150 or nextbases200
Post by: Courage on Jan 14, 2003 at 09:30 AM

Yamaha...walang pagsisisi yan ;D

Title: Re:HTIB-yamaha dvx-s60 or samsung htdm150 or nextbases200
Post by: dexterc on Jan 14, 2003 at 10:00 AM

Quote from: bigbird2323 on Jan 14, 2003 at 12:34 AM

HTIB-yamaha dvx-s60 at 18k or samsung htdm150 at 16k or nextbase s200,which would you suggest i get between the 3.or would a sakura amp with wharfedale moviestar60 be a better than an htib.Im on a budget that why i have limited choices.

Pretty obvious YAMAHA is the best among the 3.  ;)

Title: Re:HTIB-yamaha dvx-s60 or samsung htdm150 or nextbases200
Post by: Flyboy on Jan 14, 2003 at 01:44 PM

Hi bigbird2323,

saan merong Yamaha dvx-s60? Im looking for YHT-300, they might have this HTIB also.

 :)

Title: Re:HTIB-yamaha dvx-s60 or samsung htdm150 or nextbases200
Post by: bigbird2323 on Jan 14, 2003 at 09:01 PM

Hi i saw it sa listening room in megamall and shangrila ,19k.guys the yamaha has only 30 wattc/channel and a 30 watts passive bsub while the samsung have 40 watts/channel and a 70 watts sub thats why i have a hard time deciding between the 2 besides the fact that i read somewhere here that the yamaha doesnt have a tweeter.please help

Title: Re:HTIB-yamaha dvx-s60 or samsung htdm150 or nextbases200
Post by: Flyboy on Jan 15, 2003 at 02:51 PM

Hi again Bigbird2323,

I also have the same dilemna when it comes to choosing which HTIB to buy. Samsung htdm150 seems like more powerful...and cheaper too compared to yamaha! But what im eyeing right now is the YAMAHA YHT-300 HTIB without the DVD player...based on reviews OK naman daw & higher capacity than DVX-s60. Hopefully meron dito sa 'pinas! Based on prices over the net, its cheaper than DVX-s60! I just hope meron dito sa manila....THE HUNT IS STILL ON!!

 ;D

Title: Re:HTIB-yamaha dvx-s60 or samsung htdm150 or nextbases200
Post by: gravy on Jan 17, 2003 at 03:54 PM

Quote from: tABs on Jan 14, 2003 at 03:25 AM

go for yamaha...highly recommended...yun lang...

Were can i buy a good HT?

Title: Re:HTIB-yamaha dvx-s60 or samsung htdm150 or nextbases200
Post by: dexterc on Jan 17, 2003 at 04:04 PM

Quote from: gravy on Jan 17, 2003 at 03:54 PM

Quote from: tABs on Jan 14, 2003 at 03:25 AM

go for yamaha...highly recommended...yun lang...

Were can i buy a good HT?

May mga listahan ng mga Dealers for HT, HTIB  o   Seperates.Nasa General na Thread.Pati mga Location and Contact Numbers nila nandun

Title: Re:HTIB-yamaha dvx-s60 or samsung htdm150 or nextbases200
Post by: gravy on Jan 17, 2003 at 04:18 PM

i dont understand.. am' sorry.. where is that General Thread? can u give a number?

Title: Re:HTIB-yamaha dvx-s60 or samsung htdm150 or nextbases200
Post by: dexterc on Jan 17, 2003 at 04:33 PM

Quote from: gravy on Jan 17, 2003 at 04:18 PM

i dont understand.. am' sorry.. where is that General Thread? can u give a number?

Just below the AUDIO Thread...naka sulat GENERAL..there makikita mo yung mga nakasulat sa Subject ang mga names ng stores nandun lahat.Hope you could find..or use "search" Button kung di mo pa rin mahanap  

Title: Re:HTIB-yamaha dvx-s60 or samsung htdm150 or nextbases200
Post by: gravy on Jan 17, 2003 at 04:43 PM

i found it na. thanks!!!!

Title: Re:HTIB-yamaha dvx-s60 or samsung htdm150 or nextbases200
Post by: dexterc on Jan 17, 2003 at 04:50 PM

Quote from: gravy on Jan 17, 2003 at 04:43 PM

i found it na. thanks!!!!

No problem bro ;D ;D

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: theman on Jan 20, 2003 at 03:00 PM

FOR THE ONKYO HTIB
 
the htib mentioned included the sks ht 500, a 5.1 speakers that only sells 249 at circuit city. there is also a matching receiver that the package price is 500 dollars. already talked to toyoma, the local importer but it is not intended for the asian market. the reason for this is it would be susceptible for imitation by china.

this is a pity because of the quality and the bang for buck price.

i would bet that the speaker package is unequal on that price range (249 dollars).

you may go to onkyousa.com

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: redkoji on Feb 21, 2003 at 02:10 PM

Guys,

If you like the sound of JBL we have ESC-340 and Sony Stylish DVD player model DVP-F21 as package. Reg. Price Php51,990.00 get it at Php47,500.00.

This is an ideal HT in the box offer....avail it at Studio Systems Tel#522-5698

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: slowhand on Apr 05, 2003 at 08:57 PM

Having said "never" to HTIB, I now come across something that I might actually want to get in the future, for a bedroom system where clutter needs to be kept to a minimum.

Read aboutthe high-end HTIB that costs less than some mass-market HTIBs (http://www.avguide.com/web_exclusive/april_03/MAINstage_system.jsp). The equivalent of six speakers in one box. Now that's out-of-the-box thinking, if you'll excuse the pun.

Title: newbie
Post by: gutierrez on Apr 30, 2003 at 06:00 AM

Help me naman guys, I am a total newbie when it comes to HT setup.  I wanna buy a dvd player that doesn't need areceiver to produce "true" surround sound, what dvd player can you recommend?

Title: Re:newbie
Post by: gutierrez on Apr 30, 2003 at 06:03 AM

By the way my budget is only up to 20,000.  Is there any branded dvd player that can fit my budget

Title: Re:newbie
Post by: rtsy on Apr 30, 2003 at 10:35 AM

You're looking for what's called a Home Theater In a Box (HTIAB).  Search this forum.  This has been discussed many times.

If the HTIAB truly floats your boat, then by all means, buy it.

However, I find that PhP20k for a DVD player + decoder + multi-channel amplifier means you are seriously compromising each and every aspect of your system.

IMHO, your mileage may vary, PhP20k is better spent on a decent STEREO set-up, AND NOT SURROUND.  Then you just add the surrounds as more finds come later on.

So, at the very least, before buying the HTIAB in your budget, listen to integrated amplifiers playing goold 'ole stereo and see whose sound you like better.  You ear will tell you there your money will go.

Also check out http://www.wiredstate.com/pinoydiophiles .  Click on "Newbie" and look for the thread asking "What I can do w/ 25-30k."  It's slightly above your budget but it'll give you an indication where you can be building a 2 channel instead of surround system.

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: levi on Apr 30, 2003 at 10:48 AM

How about 2nd hand setup?

Title: Re:newbie
Post by: Mo®pHeOu$ on Apr 30, 2003 at 11:18 PM

Quote from: gutierrez on Apr 30, 2003 at 06:03 AM

By the way my budget is only up to 20,000.  Is there any branded dvd player that can fit my budget

Medyo mahirap ata yung branded for less than P20k.  Maybe you could spare a little more cash to be able to afford branded HTiB.  

Why not consider levi's advice of second hand set-up?  

Title: HT in the Box
Post by: spyboy on May 01, 2003 at 03:05 AM

Hi everyone,

   Im just new here, and I realy love DVDs. I bought all in one DVD player last january, its a Pioneer EV51DVD. When I read some of your conversation here I was really amazed of the units you have, even though Im not familiar with the terms and brand name.
   Well, gusto ko lang malaman kung ok naman na yung nabili ko kasi dati hindi ko pa alam na mas maganda pala yung seperately binibili at wala talaga akong alam. ???

Title: PIONEER HTZ303DVD OR SONY DAV-C450
Post by: ADM202E on May 29, 2003 at 10:32 PM

Mga kaibigan,

Can anyone pls advise on which model is better:
Pioneer HTZ303DVD or Sony DAV-C450?
Both cost ~P27K. Anyone who owns this model, kindly post your comments.

Matsalam  :) ;) :D

Title: Re:PIONEER HTZ303DVD OR SONY DAV-C450
Post by: ADM202E on May 29, 2003 at 10:40 PM

HERE ARE THE SPECS:

PIONEER HTZ303DVD:

RMS 75W x 6 (satellite x 5, subwoofer)
5 functions (DVD/CD, Tuner, TV, Line 1/2)
DVD/DVD-R/VCD/CD/CD-R/CD-RW player
Built-in DTS  /Dolby Digital Decoder, Dolby Pro Logic II Surround
Digital Input (Optical)
Advanced Surround (8 Modes)
DSP Mode [Glossary]
MP3 Playback [Glossary]
TV Preset Remote Control
FM/AM 30 Preset Stations
8.7cm Front Speakers, 8.7cm Center and Surround Speakers
16cm Subwoofer


SONY DAV-C450:

S-Master Digital Amplifier
5-Disc DVD/SACD/CD Changer
Dolby Digital, dts, and Dolby Pro-Logic Decoding
450 Watts Total System Power (70W X5,100W X1)
6 Speaker System, 5 Satellite Speakers and Subwoofer
CD-R/RW, Super Audio CD (multi)Playback
Digital Cinema Sound
Digital Input for Satellite TV, etc.
Color Coded Speaker Connections
Tuner with 20 FM + 10 AM Station Presets
2 A/V Inputs, 1 A/V Output
Pre-Programmed A/V Remote Commander Remote Control

Pls post your comments.
Thanks.

Title: Re:PIONEER HTZ303DVD OR SONY DAV-C450
Post by: 01SYNCTS on Jun 03, 2003 at 05:09 PM

.............its kinda expensive, but the quality is far better than NEXTBASE, try DENON HT in Abenson Ayala, 22K complete package na.

Title: Pls recommend an HTiB
Post by: SirJackass on Jun 09, 2003 at 01:02 PM

What good HTiBs are in the market today? I need something that's available in the Philippines. Where to buy? My budget is between 25-30t. Thanks.

Title: Re:Pls recommend an HTiB
Post by: av_phile on Jun 10, 2003 at 10:15 AM

Quote from: SirJackass on Jun 09, 2003 at 01:02 PM

What good HTiBs are in the market today? I need something that's available in the Philippines. Where to buy? My budget is between 25-30t. Thanks.

There are many HTIBs in your range.  Let me just say that 30t can already give you entry level HT or stereo receiver plus 5.1 speakers or better stereo pairs.  Any special reason why you want HTIB?  

Title: Re:Pls recommend an HTiB
Post by: Courage on Jun 10, 2003 at 10:37 AM

Quote from: SirJackass on Jun 09, 2003 at 01:02 PM

What good HTiBs are in the market today? I need something that's available in the Philippines. Where to buy? My budget is between 25-30t. Thanks.

ur 30k budget can get u a Marantz SR4300, wharfs 8.3,8.1 and a diamond center.

Much more better than HTib, IMO

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: SirJackass on Jun 10, 2003 at 11:59 AM

it's a gift kasi sa father's day and i need something that is easy to install and pretty simple to operate. pplus, i also need the dvd player. it's for a small room anyway. any suggestions?

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: levi on Jun 10, 2003 at 07:09 PM

IMO go for separates if possible.  

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: Courage on Jun 11, 2003 at 07:58 AM

Quote from: SirJackass on Jun 10, 2003 at 11:59 AM

it's a gift kasi sa father's day and i need something that is easy to install and pretty simple to operate. pplus, i also need the dvd player. it's for a small room anyway. any suggestions?

Still go for separates..kahit small ang room mo.. :)

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: av_phile on Jun 11, 2003 at 10:01 AM

Quote from: SirJackass on Jun 10, 2003 at 11:59 AM

it's a gift kasi sa father's day and i need something that is easy to install and pretty simple to operate. pplus, i also need the dvd player. it's for a small room anyway. any suggestions?

Am sure your dad will appreciate a more serious HT system than an HTIB.  How old is he, if I may ask, and does he like movies a lot or music, or both?

If you are decided, here's a product that looks similar to the one I saw at SM appliance retailing for less than 30t. I'd go for this over your usual HTIB.

Pioneer DCS-505

(http://www.pioneer-eur.com/images/products/homecinemasystems/pioneer/1035214442378dcs505_detailpage.jpg)

The system has a tuner, DVD player and a moderatly powered amp, a sub and 5 speakers.  Don't know if its all-region or macrovision-free, though.  If you want a cassette player, then you may have to go for the standard HTIBs like JVC and Aiwa.

There are other Pioneers models of this kind.  Suggest you visit the pioneer website and audition those at larger appliance stores like SM, Abenson, etc.

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: redisol on Jun 28, 2003 at 07:44 AM

Deos the DVX-s60 have a tuner?  Di ba mapili sa sa DVD?

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: av_phile on Jun 28, 2003 at 10:58 AM

Quote from: redisol on Jun 28, 2003 at 07:44 AM

Deos the DVX-s60 have a tuner?  Di ba mapili sa sa DVD?

The Yamaha DVX-S60 Home Theater In A Box
(http://hometheater.about.com/library/graphics/dvx-s60small.JPG)

Here's a guote from the reveiw site I visited
http://hometheater.about.com/library/weekly/aafprdvxs60a.htm (http://hometheater.about.com/library/weekly/aafprdvxs60a.htm)

Features

The DVX-S60 is anchored by a DVD/AV receiver combo unit. The DVD/CD player section is progressive scan capable and features component, S-video, and standard AV outputs. The receiver/amplifier section contains a a fully functional 5.1 channel receiver combination with Dolby Digital, DTS, Dolby Pro Logic, Dolby 3, Theater and Hall surround modes. The power output of the amplifier section is 35 WPCx5. The receiver also features an AM/FM tuner with 30 channel presets. The receiver also has additional audio/video inputs for connection of VCR and one other component as well as a front headphone jack for private listening. To round out the DVX-S60 package, there is a 40-Watt powered subwoofer with QD-Bass technology (downward firing setup utilizing a pyramid-shaped plate to disperse low frequencies in all directions), as well as five satellite speakers for the main, surround, and center channels. Finally, the whole system can be controlled with the provided wireless remote control.

Not sure if mapili sa DVD.  One way to find out: bring various region/orig and pirated DVDs with you and test the unit.

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: himura on Jul 14, 2003 at 03:08 PM

Hi guys!

Any suggestions for an entry level HT-in-a-box setup on a small budget (speakers, sub and decoder lang kailangan - I already have the player)?

Thanks!! :)

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: johndoe on Jul 14, 2003 at 03:36 PM

probably a yamaha ht in a box would do..or if ur on a budget..nextbase s400 or s200 would do..

if you will go for separates,ull need at least 25-30k.for an entry level ht. ::) but im sure if ur a hobbyist of this hobby..its worth the money! ;D

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: himura on Jul 14, 2003 at 03:49 PM

Quote from: johndoe on Jul 14, 2003 at 03:36 PM

if ur on a budget..nextbase s400 or s200 would do..

thanks for the reply dude.. where could I find more info regarding these setups?

Quote from: johndoe on Jul 14, 2003 at 03:36 PM

if you will go for separates,ull need at least 25-30k.for an entry level ht. ::) but im sure if ur a hobbyist of this hobby..its worth the money! ;D

hehehe.. yun nga eh.. too bad wala gaanong moolah eh.. hehehe  ::)

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: onedown on Jul 14, 2003 at 03:53 PM

himura, based on your criteria, there are three options that i know: sony ht-k25, (or its prececessor, ht-k215), the yamaha vs-10, and the jbl esc 360.

the yamaha vs-10 is part of their cinema station line, and i'm not sure if there are other similar products. regarding the jbl esc 360, there might also be similar products, since the esc 360 is part of jbl's somply cinema line of products.

hope this helps.

 :)

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: johndoe on Jul 14, 2003 at 04:07 PM

Quote from: himura on Jul 14, 2003 at 03:49 PM

thanks for the reply dude.. where could I find more info regarding these setups?hehehe.. yun nga eh.. too bad wala gaanong moolah eh.. hehehe  ::)

the s200 and s400 are ht in a box..
http://www.apollo.com.hk/new/product-s400.htm (http://www.apollo.com.hk/new/product-s400.htm)
http://www.apollo.com.hk/new/product-s200.htm (http://www.apollo.com.hk/new/product-s200.htm)

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: Philander on Jul 14, 2003 at 04:12 PM

Himura mentioned that he already have a DVD player.

You may try Yamaha TSS Series (Tss 1 and Tss 10)
Klipsch THX certified Multimedia Speakers
Logitech THX certified Multimedia Speakers
Mutimedia speakers of Creative, ALtec Lansing, etc.

If you don't mind, please tell us your budget for a HTIB.

Thanks.

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: johndoe on Jul 14, 2003 at 04:20 PM

Quote from: Philander on Jul 14, 2003 at 04:12 PM

Himura mentioned that he already have a DVD player.

You may try Yamaha TSS Series (Tss 1 and Tss 10)
Klipsch THX certified Multimedia Speakers
Logitech THX certified Multimedia Speakers
Mutimedia speakers of Creative, ALtec Lansing, etc.

If you don't mind, please tell us your budget for a HTIB.

Thanks.

oonga pala.. ;D my vote for that is the klipsch promedia 5.1...kaso medyo mahal..unlike the yamaha tss10..which is around 10-11k

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: himura on Jul 14, 2003 at 04:25 PM

Thanks for the suggestions guys, really appreciate it. :)

With regards to my budget, I'm trying to keep it under 20K.. siguro worst case would be around 25K.. could I get anything decent aroud that price range?

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: johndoe on Jul 14, 2003 at 04:31 PM

at under 20k...u can get a sub and a reciever na... ;D that is if u plan to go for separates.. 8)

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: Philander on Jul 14, 2003 at 04:35 PM

Quote from: himura on Jul 14, 2003 at 04:25 PM

Thanks for the suggestions guys, really appreciate it. :)

With regards to my budget, I'm trying to keep it under 20K.. siguro worst case would be around 25K.. could I get anything decent aroud that price range?

With 25K, I think you can get an entry level Receiver and speakers. You can also buy second hand equipments from our fellow members.

Receiver 13.8K Brand-New, less than 10K second hand.
Speakers: You have lots to choose from, from the rock-solid daichi family, to radiant wharfedale diamonds, to the simple perfect mission speakers, etc...


Eto na naman tayo....  ;D

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: onedown on Jul 14, 2003 at 04:50 PM

himura, do consider the option of going for separates, especially if you can spare some space. for your comparison, the sony ht-k25 costs 21K, cash at major appliance stores. the advantage of the ht-k25 is that, its very compact. i don't know the prices of the yamaha and jbl i mentioned, but i'm guessing that the yamaha costs about the same as the sony. for the jbl, i have no idea.

 :)

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: Razorstouch on Jul 15, 2003 at 05:35 PM

If your budgets P40,000 id suggest dont get the sony.  The jbls HT set is really good.  Id recommend you get the scs 178 series, it has a center, fronts, rear and a sub na and it sounds really nice especially if your just starting your HT system.  It will cost you around P22,000.  Then get a marantz receiver,  they really perform well and I think it is one of the cheapest 6.1 dts recievers in the market now,  I think you can get one for around P15,000 only.   :)

Title: NextBase S400 vs Yamaha DVXS60 vs Hitachi
Post by: redisol on Jul 19, 2003 at 08:01 AM

Please help me decide... I'm not much of an audiophile so I guess/hope these HTIB would do... BTW how's the performance of the Yamaha S60? Mapili ba?  ANy other suggestion aside from the 3 mentioned?  

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: ADM202E on Jul 21, 2003 at 11:08 AM

Dude I recently bought a separate systems for HT at 26k, consisting of yamaha receivers, wharfedale speakers and DQ12 sub plus generic dvd player. IMHO This is much better than HTIB considering the power and features these parts can give.

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: redisol on Jul 21, 2003 at 11:31 AM

Sigma:

How much is a set of Wharfedale Speakers and the DQ12 sub? Kasama na rear and center?  I'm also considering going for the Yamaha 530.  

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: ADM202E on Jul 21, 2003 at 11:44 AM

Quote from: redisol on Jul 21, 2003 at 11:31 AM

Sigma:

How much is a set of Wharfedale Speakers and the DQ12 sub? Kasama na rear and center?  I'm also considering going for the Yamaha 530.  

I have auditioned the yamaha 530+nsp230 at festival mall, ok ang sound, very clear for a small area, yun nga lang kapos ang bass pagmusic na. Much worst ang DVX-s60 kasi low wattage ang output, mahal pa.

May I suggest you check out ymaha430 GOLD, walang ganong diff yun sa 530, marami ngalang input and outputs ang 530, you may check their website for the specs to verify your preference. Yamaha 430 GOLD now runs at 12.3k only. You may squeeze in wharfedale speakers and dq12 sub. You may contact Jim of Spectra (818-54-93)parksquare 1 for the availability and discounted price, basta sabihin mo lang recommendation ng taga-pinoydvd ok na yun.  Hope this helps.

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: redisol on Jul 21, 2003 at 02:14 PM

Sigma:

Can u give me the price breakdown of your HT?  I don't want to spent too much on a HT and I think your 26th setup is is just right for me. Thanks

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: kyle618 on Jul 28, 2003 at 11:04 AM

hi peeps tagal na ako d nakapost ksi la naman akong HT setup :(

anyway, my dad is interested in buying a HT in pioneer cuz he knows someone from pioneer ... so i think theres a discount or something. the person he knows recommends the HTZ77DVD but i told my dad that its already old! the HTZ505DVD is more powerful and newer! but the person said that the HTZ505DVD is crappy and that it has many problems! i dont know what to believe anymore!! so i need feedbacks from pinoydvders ... what do u guys think?? i like the HTZ505DVD a lot but ...

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: Mo®pHeOu$ on Jul 29, 2003 at 10:59 PM

 ;D ;D ;D

HTZ505DVd is indeed newer.  Mas stylish pa yung design coz compact yung Sub nya and the fronts looks great.  I think the stands for the fronts comes free with the set.  O di less hassle na for the stands. Besides the 505 has better features like the Dolby Pro Logic II.  


RMS 75W x 6 (satellite x 5, subwoofer)
5 functions (DVD/CD, Tuner, TV, Line 1/2)
DVD/DVD-R/VCD/CD/CD-R/CD-RW player
Built-in DTS /Dolby Digital Decoder, Dolby Pro Logic II Surround
Digital Input (Optical)
Advanced Surround (8 Modes)
DSP Mode [ Glossary ]
MP3 Playback [Glossary]
TV Preset Remote Control
FM/AM 30 Preset Stations
15 x 6cm 2-way Front Speakers
8.7cm Center and Surround Speakers
16cm Subwoofer

(http://www.pioneer.com.sg/image/bg_htz505dvd.jpg)

without the plasma tv ofcourse!  ;)

besides mas mahina ang speaker power nung 77DVD.  just 40W per channel and 65W for the sub.

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: av_phile on Jul 30, 2003 at 10:02 AM

Quote from: M°RpHeÖuS on Jul 29, 2003 at 10:59 PM

;D ;D ;D

HTZ505DVd

RMS 75W x 6 (satellite x 5, subwoofer)
5 functions (DVD/CD, Tuner, TV, Line 1/2)
DVD/DVD-R/VCD/CD/CD-R/CD-RW player
Built-in DTS /Dolby Digital Decoder, Dolby Pro Logic II Surround
Digital Input (Optical)
Advanced Surround (8 Modes)
DSP Mode [ Glossary ]
MP3 Playback [Glossary]
TV Preset Remote Control
FM/AM 30 Preset Stations
15 x 6cm 2-way Front Speakers
8.7cm Center and Surround Speakers
16cm Subwoofer

(http://www.pioneer.com.sg/image/bg_htz505dvd.jpg)

.

I've seen this pioneer model at SM appliance.  Very stylish and compact.  And with a plasma, even a room that can only accomodate a single bed will make a great entertainment home theater.  Celing mounted yung plasma.  Which just goes to show any decent room size can house a home theater.

Those main speakers, parang elongated Bose cubes!

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: sebman on Jul 30, 2003 at 10:06 AM

Quote from: Philander on Jul 14, 2003 at 04:35 PM

With 25K, I think you can get an entry level Receiver and speakers. You can also buy second hand equipments from our fellow members.

Receiver 13.8K Brand-New, less than 10K second hand.
Speakers: You have lots to choose from, from the rock-solid daichi family, to radiant wharfedale diamonds, to the simple perfect mission speakers, etc...


Eto na naman tayo....  ;D

boss philander pasali na sa thread na to ha..

sir himura.. a newbie suggestion that comes also from a newbie in this HT hobby.. if you plan to be strict and tight on your budget.. i suggest you go on the separates and from that point.. enjoy your setup and appreciate it.. refrain from going to audio stores/shops and visiting this site..  ;D because sooner or later you will be hit by the upgrade bug..  :D

also try second hand units.. you can save a lot from it.

HTH,
sebman

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: redkoji on Aug 04, 2003 at 06:58 PM

Ultimate H.T in the Box....go for Klipsch Promedia 5.1 with DD5.1 paired with Nextbased DVD player.

Depending on the model of DVD player...you can have an excellent set-up at Php40,000 to 42,000

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 05, 2003 at 08:08 AM

Quote from: av_phile on Jul 30, 2003 at 10:02 AM

I've seen this pioneer model at SM appliance.  Very stylish and compact.  And with a plasma, even a room that can only accomodate a single bed will make a great entertainment home theater.  Celing mounted yung plasma.  Which just goes to show any decent room size can house a home theater.

Those main speakers, parang elongated Bose cubes!

may nag test nyan sa western and na shock ako  :o, MAHINA sya hindi sulit for the price, too bad :P

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: johndoe on Aug 05, 2003 at 12:53 PM

Quote from: redkoji on Aug 04, 2003 at 06:58 PM

Ultimate H.T in the Box....go for Klipsch Promedia 5.1 with DD5.1 paired with Nextbased DVD player.

Depending on the model of DVD player...you can have an excellent set-up at Php40,000 to 42,000

sir my dts na din ba ung klipsch promedia?

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: ADM202E on Aug 05, 2003 at 06:26 PM

Quote from: sebman on Jul 30, 2003 at 10:06 AM

boss philander pasali na sa thread na to ha..

sir himura.. a newbie suggestion that comes also from a newbie in this HT hobby.. if you plan to be strict and tight on your budget.. i suggest you go on the separates and from that point.. enjoy your setup and appreciate it.. refrain from going to audio stores/shops and visiting this site..  ;D because sooner or later you will be hit by the upgrade bug..  :D

also try second hand units.. you can save a lot from it.

HTH,
sebman

Same here, I would suggest go separates. I was about to buy this unit a few months ago, but after doing several auditioning and hearing a lot of good advise from this arena, I could clearly say that this unit lacks number of goodies compared to separates. Plus if you would consider the specs of this unit, malayo talaga sa separates at entry level option. My friend bought one, and now he regret buying his HTZ505 after seeing some of my friend's HT setup.

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: redkoji on Aug 30, 2003 at 11:07 AM

Our latest offer...the Klipsch Promedia Digital Dream Package, it comes with Nextbased DVD....for P40,000 12 months 0% interest.

Its the best buy of all HTiB Packages offer to date....with 500W system equipped with dual 8" woofer and a THX Certified speakers who can beat that.

Call us for details at 893-8011 or email us at [email protected].....

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: redkoji on Sep 22, 2003 at 02:34 PM

Quote from: johndoe on Aug 05, 2003 at 12:53 PM

sir my dts na din ba ung klipsch promedia?

yup may DTS na rin po and Prologic 2

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: weneklek on Sep 22, 2003 at 04:06 PM

redkoji
 
without the nextbase... how much?

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: redkoji on Sep 23, 2003 at 12:01 PM

Without the next based Php39,000...discount of P500 for a 0% interest 12 months promo under Citibank

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: guderian on Oct 03, 2003 at 11:14 AM

Hi Levi!

I was thinking of doing a very simple review of my Xenon Player and 5.1 speaker system (which I bought separately).  I'm not that well versed in the technicals, but I just wanted to give everyone an idea of the performance, just in case someone is looking at that same system.

Where can I post a review like that?  I noticed that the discussions here are mostly on branded or high-end setups, so I'm not sure if this is the place to post ;)

Thanks! ;D

Title: Best HTiB?
Post by: carreraGT on Dec 27, 2003 at 01:38 PM

hi!  Can anyone recommend a good HTiB,  My budget is around 45K max...I'd go for saparates sana kaso di ako marunong mag set-up/mag choose ng mga speakers, receivers, etc, plus limited pa budget and yung room ko is not that big...  Btw, meron na bang 6.1 na HTiB? Hope you can help me.  

Thanks guys!

Title: Re:Best HTiB?
Post by: johndoe on Dec 27, 2003 at 01:51 PM

you might want to consider this  (http://www.sony.com.ph/products_detail.asp?product_id=213&cat_id=4&subcat_id=11&subcat2_id=)
for me the best htib..but it retails for 48k ata..

but i would really recommend an ht setup.. 8)

Title: Re:Best HTiB?
Post by: kimpOy on Dec 27, 2003 at 02:13 PM

well yamaha cinemastation are quite good lalo na for small room, had a TSS-1 before, ok naman siya, kaso medyo malaki ang sala namin kaya nag separates na ako.

i would also recommend a separate setup,
for a 45K swak na swak
yammy440 + any entry level speakers,  may sukli pa yata

Title: Re:Best HTiB?
Post by: redline on Dec 28, 2003 at 01:43 PM

with a 45k budget you should go for separates. may sukli ka pa. Yamaha still has a sale i think. for less than 40k, complete na.  :)

Title: Re:Best HTiB?
Post by: levi on Dec 29, 2003 at 01:18 AM

Quote from: MDK on Dec 27, 2003 at 01:38 PM

hi!  Can anyone recommend a good HTiB,  My budget is around 45K max...I'd go for saparates sana kaso di ako marunong mag set-up/mag choose ng mga speakers, receivers, etc, plus limited pa budget and yung room ko is not that big...  Btw, meron na bang 6.1 na HTiB? Hope you can help me.  

Thanks guys!

I would still suggest that you go the separate route. This will prevent you from upgrading in the future and wasting money. HTIB may be OK now, but once your familiar with hometheater stuff, you will realize the advantage of using separates. You have a good budget to start with. Just research and audition further and we have lots of members who are more than willing to help you setup.

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: jubei on Dec 29, 2003 at 03:48 AM

Mga Sir/s,

Mga magkano kaya ang Yamaha 440 ngayon?

Thanks,

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: Philander on Dec 29, 2003 at 09:16 AM

Quote from: jubei on Dec 29, 2003 at 03:48 AM

Mga Sir/s,

Mga magkano kaya ang Yamaha 440 ngayon?

Thanks,

14K.

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: redkoji on Dec 29, 2003 at 02:15 PM

a THX Certified Home Theater in the BOX...interested?

Try the Promedia 5.1 with DD5.1...at Php39,000 12 months 0% interest and FREE Next Based DVD....its is FAR BETTER THAN ANY MAJOR HTIB available in the market

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: Digities on Dec 31, 2003 at 09:29 PM

i had the promedia 5.1, sure it beats any htib but grabe. sobrang kulang sa mid.

Title: Recommended HT in a Box
Post by: onkyok on Jan 16, 2004 at 09:23 PM

for Php30,000 budget, what would you recommend?

Title: Re:Recommended HT in a Box
Post by: Courage on Jan 17, 2004 at 08:44 AM

Quote from: onkyok on Jan 16, 2004 at 09:23 PM

for Php30,000 budget, what would you recommend?

Ur budget can buy an entrylevel receiver, may speakers na or try looking on some members na nagbebenta nang receiver.

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: dagul27 on Jan 17, 2004 at 12:52 PM

I just bought an ONKYO HT-S760 home theater system.Bought it online at crutchfield.com and just waiting for it to be delivered.I'm a newbie in HT but I know this is one great buy.See the specs at crutchfield.com,mas maraming pictures kaysa sa site ng ONKYO.Question:anong size ng wire ang pwede kong ipalit sa standard wire ng speakers?

Title: Best HT in a box
Post by: Fremdi on Jan 17, 2004 at 08:56 PM

Hi guys,

   Am just new here. I would just like to know what would be the best choices for a decent (kahit di top-of-the-line) HT in a box currently available in the market. I'll just give it as a present to my parents. Thanks in advance!

 ???

Title: Re:Best HT in a box
Post by: dagul27 on Jan 17, 2004 at 10:30 PM

There are a lot of reviews in cnet.com re: HTIB's.I bought an ONKYO HT-S760,6.1 na with/7 speakears w/150w subwoofer,kaya lang wala pa ata dyan sa pinas.Try to look for other brands like Yamaha,kenwood or even samsung then audition it,these are the brands na medyo mura but still capable.Depende rin sa budget mo siguro.

Title: Re:Best HT in a box
Post by: onkyok on Jan 17, 2004 at 11:35 PM

hi Fremdi! where did you buy your HT... :)
mukhang ok sya...
magkano mo sya nakuha?

i bought ONKYO BASE-V10(S) in Japan...
ok din sya...pero gusto ko sanang mag-upgrade..

Title: Re:Best HT in a box
Post by: onkyok on Jan 17, 2004 at 11:39 PM

sorry.. :-[ para kay dagul27 pala dapat yung tanong ko...

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: onkyok on Jan 17, 2004 at 11:43 PM

Quote from: dagul27 on Jan 17, 2004 at 12:52 PM

Bought it online at crutchfield.com and just waiting for it to be delivered.

i ask a question on where did you buy your HT..
pero may answer na pala dito..  :D anyway...

safe ba ang mag order through internet?
mga gaano katagal yung delivery?

thanks!

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: dagul27 on Jan 17, 2004 at 11:57 PM

Dito ako sa US and i think it's safe.For my order, i think 5-7 days kasi medyo malaki pero pag kunwari receiver lang mga 3 days lang.After kong mag-order sa net tumawag agad sila to confirm my order kaya alam kong safe.marami din trusted sites for shopping on the net and kadalasan mas mura kasi walang tax and minsan free shipping(US states).

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: onkyok on Jan 18, 2004 at 12:11 AM

malaki ba dagdag if outside US?
yung nasa site ba nila yun yung actual na price talaga?

parang maganda nga yung nabili mong HT... :)

mga magkano kaya ako aabutin if I buy ONKYO HT-S760
and be delivered sa pinas?

thanks..

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: dagul27 on Jan 18, 2004 at 12:27 AM

I don't know if they ship internationally but you can try to contact or e-mail them. :)

Title: Re:Best HT in a box
Post by: Fremdi on Jan 22, 2004 at 10:07 PM

Hello dagul27,

   Thanks for the suggestion. I'll check out cnet's reviews. How about Nextbase's S400? You can find it's spec at http://www.next-base.com/new/product-s400.htm Do you think it could be a decent HT in a box?

Title: Re:Best HT in a box
Post by: johndoe on Jan 22, 2004 at 11:16 PM

ok ang price because..its 12t only..but..marami na ngcomplain sa s400,try browsing the nextbase dvd thread...i suggest buy
a yamaha for about 17-19 k.thats the vs-10. 8)

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: redkoji on Feb 19, 2004 at 06:16 PM

In the coming few weeks ProCinema 60 will be hitting the stores...just check it's review....


http://www.definitivetech.com/reviews/PrCn60DVD

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: johndoe on Feb 19, 2004 at 06:24 PM

hi,whats ur target intro price of this definitive tech ? 8)

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: redkoji on Feb 19, 2004 at 06:28 PM

Official price P32,000.00

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: johndoe on Feb 19, 2004 at 06:36 PM

a competitive price kesa sa denon/jbl HT speaker sets 8) tnx for the info..

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: redkoji on Feb 19, 2004 at 07:02 PM

We are also coming out with Klipsch GMX D5.1....package with NAD DVD player targer price....P26,000.....a major brand H.T in the Box killer

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: slowhand on Feb 21, 2004 at 01:03 PM

redjoki -

Recommended this to a friend, who is in the market for a sub-30k HTIB. He went to AVID at Power Plant and was told that 26k was for the DVD player alone. He would have to add speakers and a decoder.

Could you please give guidance on how and where he can buy this package. Thanks.

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: redkoji on Feb 21, 2004 at 01:54 PM

Quote from: slowhand on Feb 21, 2004 at 01:03 PM

redjoki -

Recommended this to a friend, who is in the market for a sub-30k HTIB. He went to AVID at Power Plant and was told that 26k was for the DVD player alone. He would have to add speakers and a decoder.

Could you please give guidance on how and where he can buy this package. Thanks.

Just ask him to contact me directly at 893-8011

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: slowhand on Feb 21, 2004 at 02:18 PM

Thanks. I asked PJ to get in touch with my friend.

Title: Re:HT in a Box
Post by: redkoji on Feb 21, 2004 at 02:42 PM

Just clarification...the GMX D5.1 package with NAD is to be launch somewhere in the month of April and May.

Title: Home theater in a box 101
Post by: Novice01 on Nov 24, 2004 at 02:22 AM

Home theater in a box
im planning to purchase one, but i dont know which brand to buy.
could anyone enlighten me on the factors that i should consider in buying one.

im currently eyeing on the pioneer brand, ive heard how it sounds...it was pretty decent, but it has a disc carousel and most of the other brands that ive checked has the disk carousel. ive gathered some information that its not reliable, meaning, sometimes it does not close, skips. which basically means that you would have some serious tray problems.

im planning to shell out 25k...probably stretch to 30k at the most.

the pioneer brand has a 100w subwoofer, 100w satellites and 100w a/v. is it decent enough?

or is it better to purchase seperate components?

do you need to have a high wattage reciever so that it can amplify more sound on the speakers? or equal wattage is enough? for the reciever and the speakers.

i would want to have an entry level home theater that would have a full solid sound. as much as possible i would go for the branded ones. from the post that ive read so far, i would probably be leaning more towards the separates, since thats what most you guys had suggested.

currently we have an oritron dvd player, so if would be going for the separates, i just need the a/v reciever and the speakers.

***
hi everyone! i know there are threads that would answer my inquiry. ive read some of them, but they are quite long. i would appreciate the response very much, thanks.

Title: Re: Home theater in a box 101
Post by: Novice01 on Nov 24, 2004 at 04:32 AM

ive read more of the post from the other threads. my head is already aching, there was too much information, that my brain could no longer keep up. i think i have only two options, its either i dedicate my time and money to this new interest of mine or just settle with tv audio for watching movies.

Title: Re: Home theater in a box 101
Post by: Control on Nov 24, 2004 at 06:43 AM

Well, most of us prefer separates ( I guess you already know why). Before we can suggest, let me ask you first these questions:

1. Floor Area of where you will be using your set-up
2. Will you be using this set-up for your audio too?
3. Does your DVD player have an optical output?

Title: Re: Home theater in a box 101
Post by: Novice01 on Nov 24, 2004 at 01:41 PM

control,

1.im not sure about the size, but roughly 3 expeditions side by side.
2.probably more on home theater use, but it would be nice if i can listen to audio as well.
3.it only says coaxial out. is optical important?

Title: Re: Home theater in a box 101
Post by: Control on Nov 24, 2004 at 01:56 PM

Quote from: Novice01 on Nov 24, 2004 at 01:41 PM

control,

1.im not sure about the size, but roughly 3 expeditions side by side.
2.probably more on home theater use, but it would be nice if i can listen to audio as well.
3.it only says coaxial out. is optical important?

OK.. got the picture... (I think  ;D)

Judging by the budget, I would recomend getting Wharfedales for your main speakers Diamond 9.2 (fronts), Diamond 9 center,  Diamond 9.1 for surrounds and either dynaquest DQ-12 or DTX for subwoofers.  As for the recievers you can choose between Yamaha (70%HT/30%Audio Set-up) or Harman Kardon (50%HT/50%Audio Set-up) both of them are compatible with wharfedales speakers.

Optical output (for some recievers) is important because it lets you gain more output options from your DVD player e.g. Dolby Digital, DTS, ect...

Good Luck  ;)

Title: Re: Home theater in a box 101
Post by: jcob on Nov 24, 2004 at 03:16 PM

Bro Novice01,

If your budget is about 25 to 30 k, check-out the promo of Audio World. They're selling a complete package (receiver, speaker system and a free DVD player) for 25+k. I think this is a good deal. The thread is under the Home-theater General Audio-video stores , look for Audio World.

http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=11277.0

Or you may want to check out from the buy and sell section. I think myki is selling an onkyo502 receiver. And lots are selling Wharfedale diamond 8 series speakers. As for the sub, you may want to check Studio System.

Title: Re: Home theater in a box 101
Post by: Novice01 on Nov 25, 2004 at 12:14 AM

control,

thanks for replying. i just have a question. how come on your setup, the front and rear speakers are not matching, and also the sub. isnt better to build an HT of the same manufacturer?  how much does the setup cost? and also what do you think on the setup on the Audio World thread. http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=11277.0

Title: Re: Home theater in a box 101
Post by: Novice01 on Nov 25, 2004 at 12:21 AM

i have other questions

1.what does two way mean on the satellites?
2.is it ok, if your player doesnt have the decoding feature such as DTS, Dolby Digital, ProLogicII?
3.how important is the wattage on the speakers and the sub. does higher mean better?
4.whats your take on this model pioneer HTD-540DV? http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/product/detail/0,,2076_2047433_98124090_tab=B,00.html?compName=PNA_ProductDetailComponent

Title: Re: Home theater in a box 101
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 25, 2004 at 08:04 AM

Quote from: Novice01 on Nov 25, 2004 at 12:21 AM

i have other questions

1.what does two way mean on the satellites?
2.is it ok, if your player doesnt have the decoding feature such as DTS, Dolby Digital, ProLogicII?
3.how important is the wattage on the speakers and the sub. does higher mean better?
4.whats your take on this model pioneer HTD-540DV? http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/product/detail/0,,2076_2047433_98124090_tab=B,00.html?compName=PNA_ProductDetailComponent

hi novice. like you, newbie din ako looking for my first gears. i maybe able to answer your questions in a "newbie" perspective. mga idols, pls correct me ha?

1. two way means having 2 drivers. the tweeter and the mid/bass driver.
2. if the player can output DD,DTS signals via coaxial or optical links, receiver na bahala mag decode.
3. i assume you mean power when you say wattage. well, theoretically, the higher the power the better kc you get to play louder at the same time clean yung sound (nde distorted). you can always check for the power consumption. i know the pioneer is 600 watts RMS (as per specs) but is it really? if the power consumption is less than 600 watts, san nya kinuha yung ipampupuno dun sa kulang?
4. yang htd-540dv ang gusto ng wifey ko:) pangit daw kc yung mga gears na pinapakita ko sa kanya hehehe. novice, kung me pera ka na ngayon, i suggest, wag mo na bilin yung pioneer. kc ako nangarap dati magka-audio. nagsimula nga ako sa computer speakers e. but some research tells me na to go seperates(semi-seperates kc me receiver hehehe). mas flexible kc ito. tapos mas maganda pa build quality. and syempre, mas maganda performance (ala pa akong gear ha, pero millions of internet users can't be wrong).

bili ka muna ng 2 speakers for stereo setup. tapos isang receiver. tapos isang sub. eto sulit.

wharfedale diamond 9.2                    ~7000
yamaha rx-v350                               ~14000
usaudio, dtx sub                               ~7000

almost 28k (me sukli ka pa im sure) pero tingin ko mas ok yan sa pioneer. next year, me budget ka na ulit, pede mo na dagdagan yung gears mo ng center and surrounds.

hope i helped. people here will tell you to audition and see for yourself. but if you can't trust your ears, you can trust the members here (except me).

Title: Re: Home theater in a box 101
Post by: jerix on Nov 25, 2004 at 01:27 PM

Uso na ngayon 5.1 speakers for PCs --- pwede ba 5.1 HT speakers ikabit sa PC? thnks  ::)

Title: Re: Home theater in a box 101
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 25, 2004 at 01:37 PM

Quote from: jerix on Nov 25, 2004 at 01:27 PM

Uso na ngayon 5.1 speakers for PCs --- pwede ba 5.1 HT speakers ikabit sa PC? thnks  ::)

new soundcards have SPDIF outs. the new mobos w/ onboard audio also have this. the claim is 5.1 daw. ito yata iko-connect sa coaxial in ng receiver.

my thoughts lang po.

Title: Re: Home theater in a box 101
Post by: Philander on Nov 25, 2004 at 01:48 PM

Quote from: jerix on Nov 25, 2004 at 01:27 PM

Uso na ngayon 5.1 speakers for PCs --- pwede ba 5.1 HT speakers ikabit sa PC? thnks  ::)

To add, kung walang SPDIF (Sony/Philips Digital Interface), Optical, or Coaxial digital out. And merong 5.1 analog out (or with build-in DD and/or DTS decoder) then you can connect the sound card to AV receiver's 5.1 analog input.

Title: Re: Home theater in a box 101
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 25, 2004 at 02:17 PM

Quote from: jerix on Nov 25, 2004 at 01:27 PM

Uso na ngayon 5.1 speakers for PCs --- pwede ba 5.1 HT speakers ikabit sa PC? thnks  ::)

If your 5.1 HT speakers are powered, no problem.

Otherwise:

Connect your PC's S/PDIF to the receiver's S/PDIF co-ax terminal.  In most cases, these S/DIF terminals in PCs use a baby jack.  So you need a special cable with RCA-BabyJack termination.  Some soundcards have optical terminals but they are smaller and will not accommodate the standard toslink cables.  And I don't know where to get such cables, maybe radioshack.  Then you can enjoy your PC as another source.

That's what I have, in addition to my other players. 

Title: Re: Home theater in a box 101
Post by: Novice01 on Nov 26, 2004 at 06:33 AM

i have new questions

1.what does RMS and PMPO mean?
2.what are your thoughts on a disk carousel? does it break easily, how soon?

i saw this new model of pioneer, im eyeing on this one.
http://www.pioneer.com.sg/storefront/aspFn/Product.asp?ProductId=24&CatId=64,8,13

Title: Re: Home theater in a box 101
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 26, 2004 at 07:38 AM

Quote from: Novice01 on Nov 26, 2004 at 06:33 AM

i have new questions

1.what does RMS and PMPO mean?
2.what are your thoughts on a disk carousel? does it break easily, how soon?

i saw this new model of pioneer, im eyeing on this one.
http://www.pioneer.com.sg/storefront/aspFn/Product.asp?ProductId=24&CatId=64,8,13

here's an article i got from the net...

What is PMPO? - It's An advertising gimmick!

Have you ever wondered how that pair of speakers they are selling at the discount store for $10 can put out 120 watts of power? Well, depending on your definition of output power...they can...and it has fooled many people! I know people have told me that their home stereo unit has 2600 watts of power output...even though it is connected to a standard 120-volt power supply that is only allowed to draw 2000 watts before tripping the circuit breakers!

The answer to this issue lies in how they measure the output power of the device. Usually if you look at these huge numbers, you will see the letters "PMPO" underneath. PMPO stands for "Peak Music Output Power" or "Peak Momentary Power Output". Notice the word peak. The vendor of the product calculates PMPO based on the maximum power output of the device under perfect conditions and 100% efficiency. These conditions are impossible to obtain, and no device can sustain the PMPO power for any significant length of time without being ruined. The PMPO power relies on the fact that amplifiers can provide short bursts of very high power. Over time, these short bursts when averaged with the lower output powers, gives the real value.

The Real Power
Vendors use PMPO power to hide underpowered power supplies and amplifiers. When you see something with a PMPO measurement on it, turn it around and look at the specifications. Often, the input power from the AC mains is 5 or more times LESS than that of the PMPO power. You also may see a more accurate measurement, called RMS (Root Means Square) power and DIN power. These types of measurements average output over time, creating a much more reasonable reading. Don't be fooled by cheap products which appear to put out big power.

Title: Re: Home theater in a box 101
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 26, 2004 at 10:10 AM

In short, RMS is the proper way to state CONTINUOUS output power per channel.

You should see something like:

100 watts RMS per channel,  Minimum Continuous into 8ohms, 20hz - 20khz, < 0.03% THD. All Channels Driven

Anything else is hype.  And for me, that includes DIN and EIAJ standards where the output is measured only at 1khz into 4 ohms with only one channel tested.

But...but...but....

This is HTIB territory.  So I don't really think this conservative power rating applies.  They're mostly bannered with PMPO.  Just take a look at the back to see the Electric Power Consumption.  If it says 200 watts, you take around 60% of that and divide into the channels. That's your maximum RMS output per channel.  On a 5.1, that's 24 watts per channel.   Not exact, but close.

Title: Re: Home theater in a box 101
Post by: Novice01 on Nov 26, 2004 at 04:30 PM

so in a 600 watts system, 60% of that would 360, divide that into 5, thats 72 watts per channel?

so your not really getting 100 watts of out of each channel?

Title: Re: Home theater in a box 101
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 27, 2004 at 11:57 AM

Quote from: Novice01 on Nov 26, 2004 at 04:30 PM

so in a 600 watts system, 60% of that would 360, divide that into 5, thats 72 watts per channel?

so your not really getting 100 watts of out of each channel?

if the power consumption is 600 watts then yes. power consumption is usually found in the spec sheet. ask the salesperson kung pede mo makita spec sheet.

Title: Re: Home theater in a box 101
Post by: Novice01 on Nov 28, 2004 at 04:21 PM

Quote from: bumblebee on Nov 27, 2004 at 11:57 AM

if the power consumption is 600 watts then yes. power consumption is usually found in the spec sheet. ask the salesperson kung pede mo makita spec sheet.

so thats means that you not really driving the speakers to its full output.

again, what are your thoughts on disk carousel (cd changer) they say that it easily breaks. and also which is better one way or two way on speakers.

Title: Re: Home theater in a box 101
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 30, 2004 at 07:43 AM

Quote from: Novice01 on Nov 28, 2004 at 04:21 PM

again, what are your thoughts on disk carousel (cd changer) they say that it easily breaks. and also which is better one way or two way on speakers.

kung maingat ka naman sa gamit, nde naman basta basta masisira. i-align mo lang ng mabuti yung disc para nde maipit.

mas ok ang 2-way kc me tweeter for highs and another woofer for mid/bass.

Title: Re: Home theater in a box 101
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 30, 2004 at 09:47 AM

Quote from: Novice01 on Nov 26, 2004 at 04:30 PM

so in a 600 watts system, 60% of that would 360, divide that into 5, thats 72 watts per channel?

so your not really getting 100 watts of out of each channel?

You got it. 

Those bannered ratings are more a numbers game than anything.  The higher the figures the more impressive, the more sales.

Title: Re: Home theater in a box 101
Post by: Novice01 on Nov 30, 2004 at 10:02 AM

Quote from: av_phile1 on Nov 30, 2004 at 09:47 AM

You got it. 

Those bannered ratings are more a numbers game than anything.  The higher the figures the more impressive, the more sales.

so, the trick would be to get a high wattage reciever? where did you get the computation for the output?

***
av_phile1,

my friend has a teac HT, but the player is not working. the spec for the speakers are: sats 35w and sub 75. would be better if a just purchase a reciever and then upgrade the speakers later on, then the player, what do you think?

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: maxinell on Sep 25, 2006 at 11:20 PM

up ko lang po.

sirs suggestion naman for the recent releases of HT in a box.

has anyone tried the pioneer 5.1 wireless?
its around 24K now at abenson's  i saw this when it was first released was around 35K.

with a budget of 15-20K...meron ba talagang bang for the buck?

TIA!

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: maxinell on Sep 25, 2006 at 11:40 PM

pahabol parecommend na rin po ng iba pa per price range


5-10K:  like xenon, teac, next base etc.? 

10-15K:

15-20K:

yung samsung P10 home theater system na bundled sa tv maganda ba compared sa iba?
ang sales talk nila eh orig price neto is 20K pero plus 5K nalang sa tv.

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: jcool on Oct 10, 2006 at 01:37 PM

Sirs, my HTIB (Samsung HT-Q20) does not have any headphone jack or an audio out provision.

Is there a way to somehow connect headphones or for the sound to come out from the TV? I know the answer may sound obvious but maybe you guys have a way. thanks

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: Mo®pHeOu$ on Oct 10, 2006 at 11:23 PM

Quote from: maxinell on Sep 25, 2006 at 11:40 PM

pahabol parecommend na rin po ng iba pa per price range


5-10K:  like xenon, teac, next base etc.? 

10-15K:

15-20K:

yung samsung P10 home theater system na bundled sa tv maganda ba compared sa iba?
ang sales talk nila eh orig price neto is 20K pero plus 5K nalang sa tv.

I got the samsung HTiB HT Q20 packaged with a TV for P5k lang.  So far so good.  500Watts RMS.  80w per channel and 100w for the sub.  Okey naman ang sound nya.  Enjoyable for a small room na rin.  With a FM/AM tuner na rin.  Okey na rin ang mga features.

Saw sa SM appliance yung Pioneer na HTiB with 4 tower speakers.  Price was almost P19k.  GAndang tignan kaso wasn't able to audition it properly kasi hindi nila mailayo yung mga speakers sa main unit kasi nakabuhol daw yung wires.  Nakakatawa yung mga ganung salespeople.  Parang ayaw magbenta.  So, I just passed on it. 

thanks.  ;)

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: maxinell on Oct 17, 2006 at 02:40 PM

Quote from: Mo®pHeOu$ on Oct 10, 2006 at 11:23 PM

I got the samsung HTiB HT Q20 packaged with a TV for P5k lang.  So far so good.  500Watts RMS.  80w per channel and 100w for the sub.  Okey naman ang sound nya.  Enjoyable for a small room na rin.  With a FM/AM tuner na rin.  Okey na rin ang mga features.

Saw sa SM appliance yung Pioneer na HTiB with 4 tower speakers.  Price was almost P19k.  GAndang tignan kaso wasn't able to audition it properly kasi hindi nila mailayo yung mga speakers sa main unit kasi nakabuhol daw yung wires.  Nakakatawa yung mga ganung salespeople.  Parang ayaw magbenta.  So, I just passed on it. 

thanks.  ;)

Thanks Sir Morpheous!

Finally bought my entry level HD system from samsung last oct. 8

Samsung slimfit 32" widescreen CRT
plus samsung HT-Q20 dvd player/amplifier PS-RQ20
all for 60K  ;D

nahaggle namin na 55K ung tv +5k for the HT.
feeling ko nga dapat lahat to 55K nalang eh kaya lang pahirapan talaga kaya pumayag nalang kami (as if i had a choice. its the only one i could afford!)

So far so good pero di nga lang kasama mga stands and brackets.
I just bought the pioneer stands at sm appliance for the fronts and powerview wall brackets at ace hardware for the rear surrounds yet to be installed.
concrete wall kasi sa likod so bro-in-law ko pa magdrill this coming weekend for that.
sa living room siya nakasetup.

sir mga ilang feet above the head nyo nilagay ung rear speakers?
basa ko dito mga 2-3 feet above the ears daw dapat.
problem with the room is that it opens up to the dining area at the back, so was thinking of placing heavy curtains to make it enclosed somewhat.
meron po kayo ma-suggest na ibang way?

thanks!

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: kyle618 on Dec 03, 2006 at 01:13 AM

guys just want to ask... we are getting a pioneer HTIB cuz we're getting one soon. which is better

HTZ656 with HDMI
or
HTZ535 with the wireless rears... medyo hassle ksi sa wiring sa likod e.

29k yun HTZ656. cash is not an issue pero it has to be pioneer since we're getting a plasma with it.

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: motion55 on Dec 03, 2006 at 06:50 PM

It may be a hassle to wire but I suspect the HTZ656 sounds better than the HTZ535. I suggest that you audition the speakers and pick the one which sounds better.

Just count the HDMI as an added bonus but with non-HD DVD source the difference might not be significant.

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: JT on Dec 05, 2006 at 12:29 AM

For an HTIB, I'd go for models which has optical or coaxial input.

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: kyle618 on Dec 06, 2006 at 01:17 AM

got the 656 na lang since its the newest and it looks bagay with my 436hdg

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: jdg on Dec 09, 2006 at 07:53 PM

ano bang ok na HTIB sa 15-20k price range na divx capable na?

Title: Re: HT in a Box
Post by: txtus on Mar 06, 2007 at 08:39 PM

anu pong model po nasa sm pioneer mga 15k ang price

Title: Re: Home Theater In a Box (HTiB) 101
Post by: pjvzim on Apr 01, 2016 at 04:21 PM

Sir question lang po my nag sale po kasi dito smen na home theater pero my defect upon opening. plano ko sana pagawa ko nlang. ask lang po sana kung anu mas ok or kung my mas mganda pa po ba. salamat po!

JVC THG61 - 8,500 Defective Speaker output left and right.
http://www.jvc.net/me/home_cinema/nx_th_series/th-g61/

or

LG BH9520TW - 17,400 (defective center speaker output)
http://www.lg.com/uk/home-cinema-systems/lg-BH9520TW-home-cinema-system

Title: Re: Home Theater In a Box (HTiB) 101
Post by: SiCkBoY on Sep 25, 2016 at 08:02 AM

Yun Pioneer MCS 333 ko walang audio sa center speaker. Ano ba most commom cause nito?

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Title: Re: Home Theater In a Box (HTiB) 101
Post by: coastal on Sep 25, 2016 at 08:46 AM

Could be the wire, maninipis lang kasi pag HTIB. Or the terminal clips.

Title: Re: Home Theater In a Box (HTiB) 101
Post by: anya618 on Sep 25, 2016 at 08:49 AM

ganyan din yung surround ko pag tingin ko nginatngat pala ng daga

Title: Re: Home Theater In a Box (HTiB) 101
Post by: SiCkBoY on Sep 25, 2016 at 12:35 PM

Quote from: coastal on Sep 25, 2016 at 08:46 AM

Could be the wire, maninipis lang kasi pag HTIB. Or the terminal clips.

Onga eh. Nakakatamad lang i-isolate yun problem dahil naka cable management.

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Title: Re: Home Theater In a Box (HTiB) 101
Post by: SiCkBoY on Sep 25, 2016 at 12:35 PM

Quote from: anya618 on Sep 25, 2016 at 08:49 AM

ganyan din yung surround ko pag tingin ko nginatngat pala ng daga

Ahh hopefully di naman. Wala naman daga hehe.

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Title: Re: Home Theater In a Box (HTiB) 101
Post by: wedge on Sep 27, 2016 at 01:30 AM

Quick q here: someone sold me an Omni-Phase M90 speaker system here in the US for $200 (the guy initially asked for $400 but I declined), saying it was an excess order and they really didn't want to sell it for full price (which was $1.8k according to the invoice and box).

However, though I'm not familiar with the brand. Any thoughts on this? Dunno if I'll get my money's worth on this or is this just a China-made brand that would go kaput in a month's time. Btw, the guys who sold me work for a home theatre installation company, one reason I probably took their word for it. I was also looking at eBay and the system normally goes for around $800.

Title: Re: Home Theater In a Box (HTiB) 101
Post by: markcrenz on Sep 27, 2016 at 07:15 AM

Did the "HT installation" guys have a White van? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_van_speaker_scam)

Title: Re: Home Theater In a Box (HTiB) 101
Post by: GIJoe on Sep 27, 2016 at 10:38 AM

Quote from: wedge on Sep 27, 2016 at 01:30 AM

Quick q here: someone sold me an Omni-Phase M90 speaker system here in the US for $200 (the guy initially asked for $400 but I declined), saying it was an excess order and they really didn't want to sell it for full price (which was $1.8k according to the invoice and box).

However, though I'm not familiar with the brand. Any thoughts on this? Dunno if I'll get my money's worth on this or is this just a China-made brand that would go kaput in a month's time. Btw, the guys who sold me work for a home theatre installation company, one reason I probably took their word for it. I was also looking at eBay and the system normally goes for around $800.

Eto ba ung mga bigla na lang lalapit sa iyo tapos aalukin ka?


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Title: Re: Home Theater In a Box (HTiB) 101
Post by: Lord.vinluan on Jun 04, 2020 at 11:32 AM

Anybody here still own a working Pioneer MCS Home Theater?
May question lang sana ako regarding its Home Media Gallery.

Thanks

Title: Re: Home Theater In a Box (HTiB) 101
Post by: audio_slave on Jun 25, 2020 at 02:17 PM

Hi Guys,

Would like to ask your opinion and instruction on how to connect an active sub (US audio) to an HTIB (Pioneer HTZ-222).

Your feedback is highly appreciated.

Thank you.

Title: Re: Home Theater In a Box (HTiB) 101
Post by: synchro_01 on Jun 25, 2020 at 05:21 PM

if the sub has speaker level inputs then you are in business. if not then you need a speaker to line level adaptor for your HTIB sub out

Title: Re: Home Theater In a Box (HTiB) 101
Post by: audio_slave on Jun 26, 2020 at 04:05 AM

@ synchro_01

as per checking the US audio have a speaker level inputs for left and right speakers, may I know on which i can connect the HTIB sub out since its just a single wire with +/- tagged.

Thank you

Title: Re: Home Theater In a Box (HTiB) 101
Post by: JeromeA on Jun 26, 2020 at 07:54 AM

iba ang connector nitong player. hindi ata pwede ang active sub sa HT ni sir..hindi nya kakayanin ata i drive ang active sub kung macoconnect man? DVD player pa to.

ito ba ang likod ng HTIB mo?
(https://intl.pioneer-audiovisual.com/products/images/HTZ-222DVD-main3.png)

Title: Re: Home Theater In a Box (HTiB) 101
Post by: synchro_01 on Jun 26, 2020 at 09:15 AM

Jerome,

those connectors are just proprietary plastic connectors to make connections user friendly plus binding posts are impossible to fit due to budget (HTIB yan) and space.  You only need a minuscule amount of power to drive speaker level inputs.  Had a Samsung HTIB before and upgraded the passive sub into an active one using this method.

Audio_slave,

juts use the stock sub connector. Splice the other end of the wire and connect the positive wire to the two positive terminals and the negative wire to the two negative posts.  Downside lang is that you will ditch the stock sub of the HTIB which im sure doesnt satisfy you hence the US Audio sub route.

Title: Re: Home Theater In a Box (HTiB) 101
Post by: audio_slave on Jun 26, 2020 at 04:01 PM

@ JeromeA

Yes sir yan po ang spkr terminal ng Pioneer HTIB ko.

@ synchro_01

May downside ba if ever i connect it using your provided how to's?

Salamat

Title: Re: Home Theater In a Box (HTiB) 101
Post by: synchro_01 on Jun 26, 2020 at 06:08 PM

Downside that I can think of is not being able to use the old passive sub but in the first place you want to upgrade the bass hence an active sub . In case you don't like the outcome you can just hook it up again. Just use the same wire.

Title: Re: Home Theater In a Box (HTiB) 101
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Jun 26, 2020 at 08:04 PM

Chances are the powered sub will drown the output sound of the HTIB satellite speakers  :)

But its worth experimenting who knows you may like it.

Title: Re: Home Theater In a Box (HTiB) 101
Post by: audio_slave on Jun 27, 2020 at 01:29 AM

@ synchro_01,

Thank you and will advise what will be the outcome of this project  :)

Title: Re: Home Theater In a Box (HTiB) 101
Post by: elferoz23 on Jun 29, 2020 at 02:40 PM

waiting for sir audio_slave project, had also the same model of pioneer htib,and sobrang nakukulangan ako sa bass.

Title: Re: Home Theater In a Box (HTiB) 101
Post by: nallasartal on Jun 22, 2023 at 12:52 PM

I have an LG DVD Home Theater, with 5.1 speakers. Now, the LG DVD player (AV Receiver) automatically turns off about 10 seconds after it is turn-on. I believe this can be repaired based on YouTube videos I have seen. But what if, I would buy a new AV Receiver, could I still use the LG 5.1 speakers to connect to the new AV receiver? all the 5.1 speakers say 3 ohms, is there an AV receiver that I could buy?

The LG DVD player says 200-240 V  -  50/60 Hz  110w.

I hope someone here could help me 

Title: Re: Home Theater In a Box (HTiB) 101
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Jun 22, 2023 at 06:31 PM

better get a Soundbar Sir, newer tech for decoding. yun lang wala ng DvD player although we usually stream nowadays. this is just my 2 cents.