gaol, meron syang black cloth cover for all speakers. I'm using the Diamond 8.2s, Diamond Center and Diamond V for my setup.
Hello, To present owners of wharfedales
Contemplating on getting a wharfedale speaker brand for my HT.
I own a great sounding Wharfedale large bookshelf with a sealed enclosure (1995 model) and I am thinking of just
adding a wharfedale center and surrounds plus a sub.
What is a good Wharfedale model series?
Opal? Valdus? Atlantic? It seems that there are dozens of new Wharfedales around.
How can I check for speaker sound matching with my old one? Dala ko yung old wharfedale ko sa tindahan?
Or better yet, buy the whole wharfedale set pag di nag match ang sound?
Or should I get a mission brand? Problem is that it might not match my old pair.
TY
get the wharfedale diamond 8 series...what hi fi recognized!!!
Its cheap and good looking. The only problem I noticed is the tweeter. I find it so weak. I returned it and got a different brand. Just my 1 cent.
Hello,
Almost bought the diamond 8 bec. of the nice reviews.
Anyway, Over acting ang reviews ng hi fi mags since when I heard it, di naman masyadong maganda. no detail in the higs when U listen to music. Uses fabric tweeter instead of a metal. Cheap casing with flimsy grille.
Mura kasi kaya siguro it won 5 stars. When compared to similarly priced items such as Yamaha, sony, kewood etc.
The wharfs will be the best. But among real hi fi brands like missions, b&W, energy etc.... it is a loser.
Bought the diamond 8
made in China.
To Japjag:
Do not attempt to get a diamond 8 to your HK2000. A diamond 8 has a low sensitivity and with your HK's low
power, it will sound really weak. Siguro yung powered subs mo lang ang magbibigay ng punch into your sound.
I attest to that since I own a HK avr4000 and tried a diamond 8 set. Using an Infinity speaker with a 91dB sensitivity, the acceptable listening level on dvd was about -20 decibels against a -8 using a wharfedale diamond 8.
The Diamond 8 sounds ok for the price, but needs careful amp matching.
This wharfedale 8 set sounds perfect in an NAD reciever but sounds bad with japanese recievers.
In my experience, the HK is better matched to a JBL or an Infinity speaker.
Don't be tempted with the Diamond 8's low price or high rating. Match it with your reciever. But if you think it is the best, then go ahead.
TY
Honestly I find the diamond 8.1s great for music, i'm aware of the power rating of my receiver so I have to expect that I have to be near the max volume of my receiver in order to achieve desirable listening levels. the sound is not distorted even if I'm near the max volume, and..no clipping! Since the harman kardon sounds great in stereo I saw the potential of the 8.1 for stereo music., which is why I plan to use it for an audio setup instead (8.1 with stands and a sub), I just need to get a NAD or rotel integrated amp. (the cheaper the better) anyone selling one ? Whats happening now kasi is parang integrated amp ang receiver ko since I am mostly listening to music instead of watching dvds. hehehe ;D
Just need your advice before I buy One. I have already my yamaha rxv430
and im planning to have the fronts and center. Since my budget is less than
P10k only for the front, im considering to buy yahama or wharfedale. I already
heard the yamaha NS7390 and it sounds great, brilliant sound and just the right
bass. The cone is made of metallic-mica and has a nice finish. But considering
reviews, the wharfedale diamond 8's is better.
Now I want advice from you guys based on experinced na lang since kayo ang
mas nakakaalam nito. Hope I can hear from you guys...thanks.
Hi,
Where can i get a price quote for the wharfedales?
8.1
8.2
8.Center
I am choosing between Diamond 8s and Mission M73,M70,M7c2 any comments? How bout compared to KEF Q1.
Thanks.
Diamonds as a package (8.3, 8.1, Center) are selling at P15k (less if you replace 8.3 with an 8.2).
Missions are a level higher than the Diamonds in terms of price / performance.
The KEF Q1's are comparable to Missions 78 series which is a level higher than the M70 series.
cybermms
you can try ambassador at greenhills or shangrila. They have the cheapest price of wharfedale speakers. Try also listening style at megamall. One shop also at SM harrison has wharfedale package.
punta ka sa ambassador shagrila, the price of diamond 8.4 is P8,350
magkano na price ng wharfedale diamond 8.1 ngayon?
San Shop?
thanks
Kayanin kaya nang Yamaha RXV 520 ang Wharfe 8.3?
Kayanin kaya nang Yamaha RXV 520 ang Wharfe 8.3?
Bro Pa Tweak mo pwedeng pwede na yan.....pwede mo na kahit 80% ang volume mo he!he!! sa 220 ako 30% lang solb na ako eh ;D
which is why you can tweak the diamonds by adding a crossover inside ;D
which is why you can tweak the diamonds by adding a crossover inside ;D
diamond 8s lang ba ang kaya i-tweak?
what are the list of benefits you get?
sa likod ba nang speaker ang crossover or outboard sya?
what about other brands like b&w?
what's the prerequisite - dapat ba dalawang set
of speaker wire posts?
thanks!
which is why you can tweak the diamonds by adding a crossover inside ;D
diamond 8s lang ba ang kaya i-tweak?
what are the list of benefits you get?
sa likod ba nang speaker ang crossover or outboard sya?
what about other brands like b&w?
what's the prerequisite - dapat ba dalawang set
of speaker wire posts?
thanks!
We take out the whole inboard crossover from the speaker and replace it with a better one to maximize the sound quality of the tweeters and the speaker drivers.
which is why you can tweak the diamonds by adding a crossover inside ;D
diamond 8s lang ba ang kaya i-tweak?
what are the list of benefits you get?
sa likod ba nang speaker ang crossover or outboard sya?
what about other brands like b&w?
what's the prerequisite - dapat ba dalawang set
of speaker wire posts?
thanks!
We take out the whole inboard crossover from the speaker and replace it with a better one to maximize the sound quality of the tweeters and the speaker drivers.
i got my 8.3 tweaked... ;D
say would anyone know if the 8.1s are magnetically shielded ?
say would anyone know if the 8.1s are magnetically shielded ?
as long as they are beside your tv at a reasonable distance - 4 to 6 inches no problem.
but don't place them in front of the screen - as i found out the hard way :'(. fortunately the damage disappeared after a couple of days after turning the tv off and leaving it unplugged ;D
Hi Iceman90a,
Pa-butt in. Tanong lang tsong: you once owned wharfes 8.1 and now you have missions, what's the main difference you noticed in the sounds aside from the loudness due to different sensitivity? I know sound is subjective so what didn't you like about the wharfes--if there was anything you disliked? Thanks.
iceman: saw ur pics on another thread, nice. great to see you've finally put together a complete (?) setup. hope u dont get bitten by the upgrade bug soon, hehehe.
Hi Iceman90a,
Pa-butt in. Tanong lang tsong: you once owned wharfes 8.1 and now you have missions, what's the main difference you noticed in the sounds aside from the loudness due to different sensitivity? I know sound is subjective so what didn't you like about the wharfes--if there was anything you disliked? Thanks.
mahabang storya:
i started with 8.1's & a diamond center (no surrounds).
bought a dq-12 (bitin sa bass yung 3 speaker)
was looking for fronts
- auditioned the 8.3 and 8.4
- auditioned m71 (galing ng sound mas buo sya from bass to highs, kaysa 8.1) cheaper than 8.3
bought the m71 for front - moved the 8.1 to rear
m71 sounded "differently" from diamond center eka nga ni d75c "tam-ber"
sold the diamond center bought a m7c1
kept thinking what if m73 front ko????
sold 8.1 - bought the m73
and that is the end of my story ;D
ayaw ko na!!! (actually ayaw na ni misis ;D ) pero baka makasingit pa ng m7c2 ;D ;D
sulit marantz mo sa akin, pinas ka na ba? ano na set-up mo? sigurado big-time na ;D
whats a good rear speaker to match my wharfdale 8.1 fronts and center? I have a small room and use a yammy 430 .. Thanks .. for tonality..does it have to be same series or same brand lang? thanks..cause i saw wharfdale rears parang triangle shape nya.... dont know the exact model.. wanted to know if it would match it. thanks
whats a good rear speaker to match my wharfdale 8.1 fronts and center? I have a small room and use a yammy 430 .. Thanks .. for tonality..does it have to be same series or same brand lang? thanks..cause i saw wharfdale rears parang triangle shape nya.... dont know the exact model.. wanted to know if it would match it. thanks
Your talking about the Wharfedale Diamond 8 DFS rear surround. U can use that as ur rear or Diamond 8.1 I thinke its better na pareho brand ang gagamitin mo on all of ur speakers para pare pareho yung timbre nila.
Im using wharf diamon 8.3 and nag iipon pa ako for 8.1 para gawing kong rear...
iceman: saw ur pics on another thread, nice. great to see you've finally put together a complete (?) setup. hope u dont get bitten by the upgrade bug soon, hehehe.
ayaw ko na!!! (actually ayaw na ni misis ;D ) pero baka makasingit pa ng m7c2 ;D ;D
sulit marantz mo sa akin, pinas ka na ba? ano na set-up mo? sigurado big-time na ;D
fafa jason
madami ka namang pera eh kaya mo na yan ng sabay hehehe diba? congrats sa bagong speaker mo ;D
dex,He!!he!! Tama ka dyan bro..mag full wharf ka na lang pati rears mo.THanks in Advance kay bro killer sa 303 nya para sa akin he!!he!!
sige na nga ehehehe..mag wharfedale na lang ako all the way..para maka tipid naman..babawi na lang ako sa AVR..anyway mura lang binebenta ni killer yung 303 nya inalok nya sa akin nang 3.5k ang pair neg. pa ( ;D ehehehehehe) dahilan kasi nya eh..mayaman naman daw sya at di nya masyado kailangan nang pera...
Mabait yang si killer..at galante pa ehehehe(bro, pag uwi mo sagot mo san mig light ehehehe). Iniisip nga nya kung bebenta nya rin yung yamaha sw320 nya nang 5k sa akin eh at bibili daw sya nang 2 Yamaha SW1500 eh ;D ;D
Bro. pag nag canvass ka nang 8.1 post mo dito para may idea ako kung magkano na lang ngayon ang 8.1.
Thanks
Bro. pag nag canvass ka nang 8.1 post mo dito para may idea ako kung magkano na lang ngayon ang 8.1.
Thanks
two weeks ago nagtanong ako sa ambassador, shangri-la ang price ng 8.1 is P4,550.
Bro. pag nag canvass ka nang 8.1 post mo dito para may idea ako kung magkano na lang ngayon ang 8.1.
Thanks
two weeks ago nagtanong ako sa ambassador, shangri-la ang price ng 8.1 is P4,550.
Bro,
Thanks for the info...saan kaya mas mura?
Bakit pag sinet ko sa large yung Center speaker ko eh humihina ang output sa sub? but when i set the center speaker to small eh lumalakas ang sub? Bakit pag yung main and rear speakers ang naka large eh walang pag babago sa output nang sub pero pag center na ang ginawang large eh humihina?
Bakit pag sinet ko sa large yung Center speaker ko eh humihina ang output sa sub? but when i set the center speaker to small eh lumalakas ang sub? Bakit pag yung main and rear speakers ang naka large eh walang pag babago sa output nang sub pero pag center na ang ginawang large eh humihina?
kasalanan ng receiver yan. umaandar yung crossover nya kaya yung bass signal nahahati depende sa setting ng front mo. pag large only the lower frequncies are sent to the sub. pag small - mas mataas nag freq range na pinapadala...
m71 has higher sensitivity I think than the 8.1 but in terms of sound quality, its a tossup, I just prefer the sound of 8.1s in my setup, If I were to upgrade I will go b&w probably the floorstanding 600 series :)
will the wharfedale wh-2 rear speakers go well with wharfdale diamond 8.1 and diamond center channel??? thanks....
CPUidle,
Problem with the Highs? Malakas ba or mahina?
How did you split your cables in your biwiring process? Do you suggest I have them tweaked by Nivrblakr?
Thank you very much for the info CPUidle. Follow up question lang about the biwiring. Do you mean na using 1 pair of cable, isa sa +, yung isa sa - ? Hindi 1 pair of cable, both sa + ?
My wharf 8.3 sounds good naman..problem lang is the bass...napakahina..pangit pag wala kang sub woofer. any way when i turn on my JBL sub..dun lumabas yung magic...for the price not bad talaga yung wharf. if ur planning on using wharfs as ur speaker a good sub is a must.
will the wharfedale wh-2 rear speakers go well with wharfdale diamond 8.1 and diamond center channel??? thanks....
Same manufacturer...yes..it will
My wharf 8.3 sounds good naman..problem lang is the bass...napakahina..pangit pag wala kang sub woofer. any way when i turn on my JBL sub..dun lumabas yung magic...for the price not bad talaga yung wharf. if ur planning on using wharfs as ur speaker a good sub is a must.
How much for the jbl sub? Wharfedale has does powercube subs ok ba siya if paired with the diamonds.
Im planning to get the Wharfs 8.2 for my rears..para halos pareho sila nang 8.3 ;D
Dracula,
yup meron sila..yung WHarfedale DFS bi polar speakers about 4k++..pero mas gusto ko yung 8.1 or 8.2 para mas maganda pag naka 5 channel stereo ako sa music ehehehe
whats a good rear speaker to match my wharfdale 8.1 fronts and center? I have a small room and use a yammy 430 ..
magkano na mga bro ang diamond center ngayon? seen one at park square 1 at P3,780. sa greenhills kaya?
mdsaint3, how's the performance of the diamond center w/ your 430?
magkano na mga bro ang diamond center ngayon? seen one at park square 1 at P3,780. sa greenhills kaya?
mdsaint3, how's the performance of the diamond center w/ your 430?
Pwede ba gamitin yung center ng wh-2 for the rears in a 6.1 set-up going to use wh-2, diamond 8.2 and the diamond cednter with a marantz sr4300
Anyone looking for original England made Wharfedale, Im selling mine. Its a bookshelve speaker. I will match it with any present wharfedale.
Pwede ba gamitin yung center ng wh-2 for the rears in a 6.1 set-up going to use wh-2, diamond 8.2 and the diamond cednter with a marantz sr4300
Pare nung naka Denon 1803 pa ako..i use Wharfs 8.3 for my fronts, WHarf diamond center for my center and WH2 Center for my Rear center.. no problema..ganda pala pag may Rear center ka..feeling mo talaga eh may kunga ano mang nagalaw sa likod mo..ehehehe
Ngayon wala nang silbi kasi balik 5.1 ako ehehehehe..planning to sell it pag makakaluwas na ulit ako
Anyone looking for original England made Wharfedale, Im selling mine. Its a bookshelve speaker. I will match it with any present wharfedale.
SIr levi, do u have a picture of the Diamond 8.4? Im interested
sure chester..check out ambassador in shangrila..so far the cheapest place of all the places ive canvassed
chester,
intayin mo hanggang ma break in yan (60-100hrs ata). Pag hindi ka na kontento sa sound, i pa tweak mo kina Nirv
Dracula,
Sir for me 8.1 for front iba ang clarity niya compare to 8.2 syempre dapat may sub ka.
Chester,
Sir I have tried bi-wiring my 8.1 or 8.2 it really gives the extra effort.
Pwede ba gamitin yung center ng wh-2 for the rears in a 6.1 set-up going to use wh-2, diamond 8.2 and the diamond cednter with a marantz sr4300
Pare nung naka Denon 1803 pa ako..i use Wharfs 8.3 for my fronts, WHarf diamond center for my center and WH2 Center for my Rear center.. no problema..ganda pala pag may Rear center ka..feeling mo talaga eh may kunga ano mang nagalaw sa likod mo..ehehehe
Ngayon wala nang silbi kasi balik 5.1 ako ehehehehe..planning to sell it pag makakaluwas na ulit ako
anong model ng wharfs na pwedeng gamitin for center, and how much kaya?
ic thanks, read your review bro on some other website on WH-2 center :)
anyway, so I'd better go with Diamond 8 center right? would it work well with Bose Acoustimass modules?
ic thanks, read your review bro on some other website on WH-2 center :)
anyway, so I'd better go with Diamond 8 center right? would it work well with Bose Acoustimass modules?
i think mahihirapan kang maghanap ng center speaker that would match your acoustimass speakers. better if you will replace your front speakers as well and make your existing speakers as surrounds. :)
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ic thanks... I don't think I have the budget now to replace my fronts... I guess I'd just have to look for an affordable center that would match well with the acoustimass speakers :)Quote
full range kasi ang mabibili mong center speaker kahit anong brand pa siya. ang laki kasi nung gap with regards to frequency of acoustimass to a full range speaker. if you saw the review of an acoustimass in the net, nasa 13 khz na iyung maximum frequency niya while a "true" speaker naglalaro from 50hz up to 20,000 khz. minsan lumalagpas pa ito up to 28,000 khz katulad nung isang model ng dynaudio. i think if you'll use a center speaker like this wharfdale, baka matabunan lang niya iyung fronts mo which is your acoustimass. it would be better na mag-save ka na lang muna para makabili ka na rin ng fronts mo to complement the center speaker you want. or better ask nirvblakr. siguradong may center spekaer sila na match sa acoustimass set-up mo. alam kong gusto mo na ring mamaximize iyung bagong receiver mo. :)
Or
i pa adjust mo kina Mel yung x-over ng WH-2 para mag match sa bose speakers mo
sgc_wdi- Maybe you might want your center speaker custom made to match your Bose Acoustimass modules.
Just pm me if you are interested..... ;D
ah ic... so normally on movies di naman aabot yung center ng 20khz right... anyway, if I really need to make the fronts and center tonally the same, pwede ko rin gamitin yung bose as center, then yung bibilhin kong additional speaker ang magiging rear center ko...
plano ko kasi is yung bagong speaker ang center, then lahat bose acoustimass modules na...
ic thanks, read your review bro on some other website on WH-2 center :)
anyway, so I'd better go with Diamond 8 center right? would it work well with Bose Acoustimass modules?
i think mahihirapan kang maghanap ng center speaker that would match your acoustimass speakers. better if you will replace your front speakers as well and make your existing speakers as surrounds. :)
ic thanks... I don't think I have the budget now to replace my fronts... I guess I'd just have to look for an affordable center that would match well with the acoustimass speakers :)
Hi wharfedale owners,give me naman your insights if given the chance that you'll build your system again from scratch.would you guys still choose the wharfs or would you go for missions even if it takes a piece by piece acquisition.is the mission's price premium really worth it.I'm deciding between the two.please help,I'm pairing it with a marant 4300.since my place is really small about 25 sqm and an actaull viewing area of only15 sqm
Wharf
diamond 8.1
diamond center
wh2 surround
wh2 surround center
mission
m71
m7c1
m70
Bigbird,
Pre used to own Wharf 8, 8.1 & 8.2 ok sila neutral sound for HT or Music but If you want your wharf to really sing you should have a powerful amp paired with it or a high current amp.
Currently only have the Diamond 8.1 I love its sound tapos bought Mission C7c1 and M73i paired with HK ok na ok din..
Pre better go to spectra may Marantz , Mission & Wharfedale sila so you can audition on the spot.
Im just a bit confused..what does high current amp mean? any example? I understand what a high power amp. Is a high current amp like the ones of onkyo?or yamaha?
So matching wise, yamaha is best paired with wharf and other high current amp.
Will HK2550 be a good match to Wharfedale then?
I cut this from another forum and hope this helps.. :)
High-Current Amplification--
Power ratings (watts/ch) can be very confusing in that high-power amplifier ratings don't always mean that you are getting the best sound.
Power, typically measured in Watts, is an equation of Voltage x Current. Both the voltage and current output of an amplifier will vary between manufacturers and models.
High voltage amplifiers typically require smaller power supplies and provide very little current output (low-current). High current power amplifiers, on the other hand, provide forceful power (by implementing robust power supplies)using current as a driver with low voltage levels. Thus, high current amplifiers usually will provide better sound than high voltage amplifiers.
In terms that may make better sense, when power is applied to an electric train (not a toy train), the locomotive is driven by the current. When power is supplied to a speaker, a high-current amplifier will more accurately and forcefully drive the larger speaker magnets, those of the woofers. The speaker's woofers are used for reproduction of the very difficult to power low frequencies.
For this reason, when an identical pair of speakers are run on a low-end, low-current AV receiver and a higher-end high-current system (of equal or lessor power ratings), the speakers on the lower-current receiver will sound tinny while the speakers on the high-current System will sound more full and richer.
Along with the higher current available in the high-current receives is the ability handle the requirements of lower-impedence speakers (nominal 4ohm loads versus the easier to push higher impedience speakers, nominal 8ohm load), or multiple pairs of speakers (critical for our multi-speaker AV systems).
In short (and simply) the higher the current your recievers are able to produce (and maintain) the better your speakers will sound and the more flexible you will be able to be in speaker choice (the best speakers are almost exclusively low impedence 4ohm speakers).
Jarius,
Pre HK and Wharf galing pre!! :o :o :o
I agree with you. Demoed the HK2550 this lunchtime at Spectra Park Square paired with the 8.3 (no sub) and to my untrained ears the sound is impressive, very smooth and warm, and the bass is also good (at least in music, was not able to demo in HT due to time constraints ;D). I was also able to listen to the HK paired with Klipsch bookshelves (don't know the model), before I requested the salesperson to hook-up the 8.3s, and although its way out of Wharfedales' price range, the sound difference is not very significant (of course, its just me).
Pre,how much kuha mo sa 5550 mo? hanggang 2550 lang kasi budget ko eh :'( do you think it can drive the wharfes to reference levels? and the 2550 has no 5.1 input, should this matter?
I have yet to demo the marantzsr4300/mission combination before I finally decide, hopefully, this weekend.
Thanks pre, will take a look at the 3550 (at the risk of being thrown out of the kulambo ;D), walang available sa Spectra eh. Actually the entry-level HK is already the highest among the entry-level receivers I'm considering so adding another 3T would be a bit stiff. But after hearing it sing (with Wharfes at that!) seems like its worth it. Somebody please talk me out of this ;D.
Pare hindi AVR 5550 ang sa akin kundi AVR5500, wala pa ditong AVR5550, anyway got mine for 34,500...
If i where u ill get the higher model AVR3550, dagdag ka lang ata nang 3k, so konting konti na yun,
And yes yakang yaka nyang i drive yung wharfs, dont underestimate its power pare, malakas ang HK. Dati tuwing makikita ko power rating nang HK turn off ako..pero nung narinig kong tumunog boommmm...ang lakas pala... :)
Ano difference ng 3550 and the 2550?
Ano difference ng 3550 and the 2550? For the longest time i've been thinking of going 6.1 (marantz sr4300) but my love for these hk receivers have been stopping me. Courage ok pa rin ba ang 5.1?
Oks na Oks pa rin ang 5.1, I watched Airforce 1 again kagabi, yung scene na hinahabol sila nang russian migs. Ang galingggggggggg
HK 2550 - 50 watts * 2, 40 watts * 5
- DTS, DD, DPL2
HK 3550 - 70 watts * 2, 60 watts * 5
- DTS,DD,DPL2
- 6 channel direct input
- OSD
Pareho silang 192khz ang DAC
dracula...
6 channel input-> pwede mong gamitin ang amp ng HK kung meron kang external decoders.
Oks na Oks pa rin ang 5.1, I watched Airforce 1 again kagabi, yung scene na hinahabol sila nang russian migs. Ang galingggggggggg
HK 2550 - 50 watts * 2, 40 watts * 5
- DTS, DD, DPL2
HK 3550 - 70 watts * 2, 60 watts * 5
- DTS,DD,DPL2
- 6 channel direct input
- OSD
Pareho silang 192khz ang DAC
You mean pwede siya for dts-es and dd-ex in the future kung may decoder ka na tama ba?
what do you mean by 192khz ang DAC?
hi all. i just came from 'listening in style' and auditioned some wharfedales; 8.1s and a modus center (this is an earlier model than the diamond center) connected to an rxv-530. the wharfes are really great for their size (most especially the price). don't let the bookshelfs fool you, they are capable of spewing out some serious s**t!ramble on
though i noticed that the treble (or highs) were a bit more pronounced when listening to audio cds thus confirming what the resident gurus here say (or, were my ears pre-conditioned by what i have reading here... ???)
but for video purposes (and small bedrooms), i guess the wharfes are a good choice. i got a quotation of 7k+ for the bookshelfs and center. would anyone know of a shop that might offer a lower price?
and lastly, would anyone care to donate (read - sell an rxv-530 to a poor newbie? ;).
btw, this was my first time to audition something. best...
van_wilder,
di ba you're currently using a Wharf/marantz combo?
how's the sound? review naman...i'm considering this same combination or an hk/wharfe combi (medyo mas mahal lang; na-audition ko na and maganda tunog). Can't find an av shop carrying both marantz and wharfes...sa spectra out-of-stock ang 4300.
thanks,
Jairus
......and lastly, would anyone care to donate (read - sell an rxv-530 to a poor newbie? ;).
btw, this was my first time to audition something. best...
mga HT gurus,
..advice naman po sa HT set up(ignoramus pako...)...if i buy a pair of wharfedale diamond 8.3's (floorstanders na ito diba?) ....do i still need a pair of 8.1's for bookshelves to go with it? tsaka would it match my hw2 center speaker na ba? (eto palang meron ako eh.hehehe)
@philander, rxv-530s are indeed on sale at 13.8k. you think this is in preparation for the arrival of the 40 series?
The Yamaha 530 (black) is now on sale. Price is Php 13.8K.
sale rin denon 1602 ata, 15.9k.
Yung marantz daw drop na daw ng spectra from their products, sabi ng sales man nila
Roughly magakano ang 6300? and specs.
sale rin denon 1602 ata, 15.9k.
Yung marantz daw drop na daw ng spectra from their products, sabi ng sales man nila
1603 is 16K.
1603 is 15,900 while 1803 is 21,700
Bumaba na rin pala ang 1803 :)
promo lang siya its not a permanent markdown and only select stores have lowered the price ;)
Courage
Diba naka 1803 ka before with wharfdale speakers ok ba?
hk ka na? grabe....how do u dispose ur old receivers?
I dont like the combi., di ko gusto ang tunog parang may kulang on both movies and music, but its just me, my wharfs sounds good on Yamaha(RXV520), NAD(T752) and now HK5500 :)
HK5500 :) sabi ko na nga amoy upgrade ;D
How about Wharfedale Diamond 8.4 my price mark down kaya??
Courage,
Musta sir yun Hk5500 break in na ba??
di sars yan... kayamanan yan..
Courage
bakit mo pinalitan yung NAD? All praises ka doon sa receiver tapos gulat na lang kami nag palit ka nanaman :o
Courage
Pre just received my month electric bill GRABE!!! big improvement sa sound means very big improvement din sa electricity :'( :'(
Pre good for you ako huhuhuh Saturday night lang 5 hours max.
Drakula,
may secret yan on why the change change ;D ;D joke lang sir courage
Courage
GANDA talaga pre!! nothing comes close hehehe kahit si Misis... yesterday walang magawa nagbalik ako ng mono wiring inalis ko bi-wired ko sa speakers pre tapos watch earth wind and fire concert with my son..
Drakula,
Sir I agree NAD produced great sound.
Where can I get the Diamond 8.3 ang price ng ambassador is 6.9k ok na ba yon?
basta nad avr ko buhay na buhay at paganda ng paganda ang tunog hehehe maswerte lang siguro ako sa unit ko ;D anyway I tried a diamond 8.1 with my receiver and wow! too bad 86 dB lang sensitivity nya kaya di masyadong malakas pero sound quality is superb considering you can get the speakers cheap, mapapamahal ka naman sa receiver hehe ;D. I also tried a klipsch sb2...tama ka courage ganda nga ng combination and the bass is surprising considering na bookshelf sya(pero more than twice sa presyo ng 8.1). :)
courage: hirap nga ng pinagdaanan mo no, di bale happy ka naman ngayon eh. ika nga ng mga veterans dito, isnt that whats it all about? :)
1603 is 15,900
I got to audition the 8.1s today with 2 combos:
A-Pioneer cd-player (PD-*07,Pioneer amp (A-109 40wpc)
B-Onkyo DVD player,Harman Kardon 670 amp
Having had no experience whatsoever with good quality stuff, I was pleasantly surprised by the 8.1s. They sounded quite loud with those 2 combinations at near 11 o'clock on the volume dial. I was expecting it to sound quite muffled but the highs were very evident. I surmise that this is also because of the Pioneer cd-player and the Onkyo dvd player. .
I believe that is because of the Harman Kardon Amplifier.
Yup its Hk alright. Just bought an HK3550 yesterday and paired it with the 8.3s and ang galing talaga ng tunog!
I would have bought the Diamond center but I'm just not sure whether its magnetically shielded (can't find any info on the web on this). I have space limitation now so the only place I can put it is on top of the TV. pwede kaya ito?
thanks courage! will probably buy this weekend :D
Any update on the price of 8.3??
Courage
Parang gusto ng floorstanding lahat ;D ;D oops except center
I am thinking of 8.3 + Center + Sub or 8.4 w/o sub + center?
Comments please?
Philander,
I am planning DENON 1803? OK na ba ito for Wharf 8.4 + Center?
If 8.3 + center + sub. OK ba sub ng wharfdale na 10A?
Thanks
wharfedales are difficult to drive but give them the right amp they sound really great, I guess when what hi-fi reviewed them they were using mid-level integrateds
courage siguro kung mas ok na tweeter yung gamitin sa wharfs mo baka di ka magpalit to missions, mas maganda kasi yung tweeter ng missions sa diamonds IMO. sayang lang ang baba ng sensitivity, gusto kong itry sa tube amp :-\
Ehehehe oo nga eh, pero baka hindi na ako magpalit kasi maganda na rin naman tunog nang wharfs eh, yung ipampapalit ko eh ibibili ko na lang nang 8.1 for surrounds.
Yup mababa nga sensitivity nya, pero the HK can really drive them compared to my previous recievers :)
bro di ko pa na test yung mission and b&W...
i know mas malulupit sila pero medyo tindi rin ng price e.. yung 303 palang na fronts e mga 15 na.. buong set na yon ng wharfs na 8.4 and 8.1 hehehe...with center pa
whats your set up ba mojaks?
haha i expected that.. well thats true...
san kaya ok i audition to side by side wharf with YAMAHA and HARMAN?
Bro courage.. bakit 8.3 ang kinuha mo? mas ok ba sya sa 8.4? sayang e i was thinking na ok yung 8.4 kasi 3 way na.. baka mas ok sa midrange.. havent heard the 8.3's e..
haha i expected that.. well thats true...
san kaya ok i audition to side by side wharf with YAMAHA and HARMAN?
Bro courage.. bakit 8.3 ang kinuha mo? mas ok ba sya sa 8.4? sayang e i was thinking na ok yung 8.4 kasi 3 way na.. baka mas ok sa midrange.. havent heard the 8.3's e..
oo nga e pera lang ba ang katapat? kasi most people here get the 8.3 e... dont know why nga ..
anong sub ang gamit mo with this?
Redtangent,
Pareho pala tayo ng problema.
I am also planning to buy the wharfs and DQ12, sa akin naman mas OK yun 8.3 since may sub na.
Budget conscious din pero I am plannning to get DENON 1803, I auditioned it na with ambassador and I pretty much liked it. I am planning to get them this week after I checked out HK3550.
Ang problema ko lang dito is 5.1 lang siya compared to 6.1 of 1803. Honestly speaking I will try first yun HK before deciding. Dami talagang supporters ang HK and they should know better I think.
I have auditioned Yamaha na rin 630 but compare to denon mas OK parin ang 1803. Only HK will stop me from buying this...
Redtangent,
Ang problema ko lang dito is 5.1 lang siya compared to 6.1 of 1803. Honestly speaking I will try first yun HK before deciding. Dami talagang supporters ang HK and they should know better I think.
mojaks, pa pm naman kung saan at magkano magpa tweak ng wharfs 8.1 (8.4 pwede din bang i-tweak?). tnxs
goodmorning, question lang , what is the advantage of having the speakers tweaked?
mine is also an 8.1 and i'm really wondering what advantage this would have.
thanks
...... It has been said that you need to break-in these wharfs say for 10 hours to fully appreciate them. You say 10 hours non-stop? or just wait until it reaches its peak? :)
Wharfs are very good if properly break in and matched with a very good receiver. :)
guess im stucked to my receiver, i have a yammy rx-v430, bought it for a cheap price. what speakers would you think will fit in to this blackhole? entry-level that is. u think wharfs could do any good? I'm considering not only for HT but for music as well.
Wharfs will sound good on a yammy, i suggest the 8.1, but hey listen to it 1st baka kasi nagagandahan ako tapos ikaw naman eh ayaw mo nang tunog. :)
Fildeps,
We have the same receiver. I used to have 8.1s as my front/main speakers and I would say that they really match well with my yamaha. Ang linaw ng tunog. Problem is kulang lang talaga siya ng bass lalo na for music. But, you could always find a good sub to complement the "weak" bass of the wharfs. I got my sub from nirv and anthony and ang ganda talaga ng match with the 8.1s. Swabe ang bass delivery ng sub na nabili ko.
Now, I use my 8.1s as surrounds since nirv offered me his personal floorstanding speakers at a price I could not refuse. Siya na ang gamit kong front speakers. Ganda rin talaga ng tunog nitong nabili ko k nirv. Before, I used to enjoy music via Dolby ProLogic 2 ( w/ sub) pero ngayon gumanda talaga ang 2-channel stereo performance ng setup ko.
Try nyo rin munang palitan yung brass metal plate na nagkokonect sa both terminals ng speaker connection ng wire na katulad nung ginamit nyo to connect your receiver to the speaker.thanks phil,
Then try nyo ring i-biwire yung Diamond speaker nyo and see the difference.
Try nyo ring alisin yung speaker grills.
Saka kayo magdecide na ipa-tweaked.
Fildeps : Sa akin lang, I'd just buy 2 sets of 8.1 for my fronts and rears and a good subwoofer. Between 8.2 and 8.3, bibilhin ko 8.3 kasi di mo na kailangan ng stands unless may paglalagyan ka ng 8.2 maliban sa speaker stands. Isa pa, madalang yata gumagamit ng 8.2 sa thread na ito. As of now, I'm experimenting with 8.1s as fronts and rears, diamond center and a low cost sub, nakadisconnect muna 8.3 ko. Again, opinion ko lang ito.
Are the 8.1s magnetically shielded? A new review in Audioreview complains that the 8.3s are not. Since I will be using the 8.1s very near 2 tv sets, this is a major consideration. Thanks in advance.
Nilagay ko sa tabi nang TV yung 8.3 ko as in nakadikit na yung dalawang speakers sa side nang TV pero nothing happens with my TV, but still i dunno kung shielded yung 8.3.
we all know that wharf's do have glitches, like the tweeter doesn't really tweet :) that good. lacks bass, so you need to have a sub-woofer to drive them. Despite all these, have you guys tried to adjust your receiver's settings like putting more bass to your main, say if you dont have the subs. etc. does these adjustments made it sound better? Did it do any improvements? o hanggang dun ka na lang sa wharf na yan?
kimpao...its just me, i also tried the 8.3's pero mas gusto ko yung 8.4's (might be the bass that enticed me to go for 8.4's) am using denon 1803's
bakity 8.4 ang gamit mo and not 8.3? ano amp mo?
wow sakto ako rin... i was thinking of getting that denon din from silly hahaha.. medyo mura e.. pwede ba i audition set-up mo kim? hahaha feeling closebalak ko pa nga to use misson speakers w/ velodyne kaso nung binigay sa akin yung quote hindi na makatarungan yung presyo. muntik ng mag-dilim yung paningin ko! hahaha!!! actually, kay pang mag missions kaso may mga pinag-iipunan pa akong iba. hehehe.
complete ka na HT set-up no?
oo nga sobra naman mission e.. gumaganda tunog pag mura hhahahaha...red, dun ko sa tabi ng spectra kinuha yung gamit ko. sa spectra hindi ako na-asikaso ng maayos. "procastinating" lahat nung mga tao. nasubukan ko using 1603's parang hirap siya to drive the 8.4's so i went for the 1803's which is mas ok. dun sa 8.3's ok din kaso mas type ko yung looks ng 8.4's ahehehehe
sino pa ba mag wharfes tapos 1803 set-up na pwede i test... o sa spectra nalang ko i test
medyo bansot lang talaga tong speakers na to.. pwede kaya pa gawan ng onting elevated platform to.. kasi medyo mas mataas ang display ko e hehehe..siguro yun din yung isa sa mga features na di ko nagustuhan sa 8.3's pwede rin pagawan ng platform pero baka mag-mukhang podium yung wharfs na 8.3 (kulang nalang gooseneck microphone, pwede nang pang speaking engagements,ahehehe). baka naman mataas yung tv rack mo kaya mababa tingnan para sa 8.3's (nakaka-ilang diba?). try to get a two level rack for your tv kung wala siyang stand. try mo sa handyman, may nakuha akong tv rack (two level, four compartment) 1 1/2 to 2ft yung taas for 3K ok pa yung woodgrain finish niya.
bro anong store sa tabi ng spectra? anong level ba yon?
Yun 8.4 ba magnetically shielded ba ito?nope, as long as you have the right placement, say 1 to 2 ft as courage would say, ala kang problema
Balak ko kasi 8.3 tapos itatabi ko sa projection TV.
Thanks
grabe.. all other receivers sound good with Wharfes...
that is.. if you dont listen to them with a harman kardon hehehehe...
nagulat ako.. kahit girlfriend ko na di masyado mahilig nagulat sa tunog.. bakit daw ang "tinis" nung sound nung yamaha (630) at mas makapal daw and mas buo yung "bato" nung harman... shucks.. nagulat talaga ako
advice... wag nyo nalang pakinggan with other receivers if your already satisfied with what you have hehehe.. 8.4's pa yong gamit....
ok sa spectra ang tyaga nila..specially si jim. sulit ang service... he will even tell you what to listen for.
;D, hey the wharfs also sound good on a NAD receiver, but i like it more on a Harman. Pilian kasi itong si wharfs eh..mura nga yung speakers sa reciever ka naman mapapamahal if u want a good matching ehehehe
am using wharfs in my setup (8.4, 8.1 + denon 1803) ok talaga, as long as you won't audition other speakers. narinig ko na missions and b&w mas maganda talaga but you really have to stretch your budget if you're planning too. medyo kontento na ako sa setup ko kaso minsan parang mayhinahanap kang tunog. i've also auditioned klipsch kaso mas mahal from missions and b&w. actually am thinking of having the 8.4's tweaked (if needed or kung dapat) does anyone have an advise on this. kaw sir courage any tips or advise. was thinking of openning the 8.4's to see if it is using guage 14 cables internally. dapat bang palitan ito just in case they're not using it. i've read from one of the threads lang on speaker cables and connections.
Pare pa tweak mo kay Mel(Nirvblkr) para ma improve ang sound nyan..
grabe.. all other receivers sound good with Wharfes...
that is.. if you dont listen to them with a harman kardon hehehehe...
nagulat ako.. kahit girlfriend ko na di masyado mahilig nagulat sa tunog.. bakit daw ang "tinis" nung sound nung yamaha (630) at mas makapal daw and mas buo yung "bato" nung harman... shucks.. nagulat talaga ako
advice... wag nyo nalang pakinggan with other receivers if your already satisfied with what you have hehehe.. 8.4's pa yong gamit....
ok sa spectra ang tyaga nila..specially si jim. sulit ang service... he will even tell you what to listen for.
Tale ang katapat pre ;D ;D
jok lang
Jairus,
Agree ako dyan money speaks
I bi-wired my 8.1s today and I got a noticeable improvement in the highs. So much so that my dvd player's brightness is starting to show through in music listening.
Hi guys, I am about to buy 8.1s for surround. How do you position them? According doon sa Dolby site, ideally it should be to the side of the main listening position firing towards the listener (actually, slightly behind the listener) and elevated about 2-3 ft from the main listeners ears. What works best for you?
Hi guys, I am about to buy 8.1s for surround. How do you position them? According doon sa Dolby site, ideally it should be to the side of the main listening position firing towards the listener (actually, slightly behind the listener) and elevated about 2-3 ft from the main listeners ears. What works best for you?
Jairus : What the Dolby site suggested is already good. That's my set-up right now, bought 4ft surround stand kasi wala akong wall na pwedeng pagkabitan ng surround eh. For further readings, try this site:
http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article.asp?section_id=2&article_id=242&page_number=1
Guys, ok ba itong setup na ito: yamaha 530+Diamond8.1+WH-2+DQ12?Advise naman po!
Get a Diamond 8c rather than Wh2 center speaker. The Wh2 surround is good enough. You may buy the Wh2 set and and the Diamond 8c then sell the wh2 center later. Or if you are satisfied with the sound of wh2 center, then go for it.
Hi Bro,
I'm planning to buy diamond 8 center.. does anybody know the phone# of the ambassador (megamall) and currently how much does it cost?
Thanks!
positive_noise
sights and sounds park square one makati diamond 8 center 4k roughly around 3.8k sa ambassador
oo nga pala...sa 8.3 ba pede rin lagyan ng sand? ;D
8.3 owners .. how did you open the small plastic to put in the sand? did you just pull it out? or twist it out? thanks.. or how did you do it? dont want to yank it..
Hi!..me nakakaalam ba dto kung magkano ngayon yun HK5500..kasi am planning to replace my yammie 596 driving a pair of 8.1's, a center and a pair of diamond DFS. ....I wanna try yun 6.1 or 7.1 ..DTS-ES and matrix ba din yun HK5500? is this better that yun regular DTS? mas ok ba yun ES kesa matrix?
saka i saw in the net yun HK525..preho ba nito yun HK5500?
and do you guys think this will improve the high's in my 8.1...kasi for my setup to sound nice..have to put the treble to 1:00 position
Peace 8)
Hi!..me nakakaalam ba dto kung magkano ngayon yun HK5500..kasi am planning to replace my yammie 596 driving a pair of 8.1's, a center and a pair of diamond DFS. ....I wanna try yun 6.1 or 7.1 ..DTS-ES and matrix ba din yun HK5500? is this better that yun regular DTS? mas ok ba yun ES kesa matrix?
saka i saw in the net yun HK525..preho ba nito yun HK5500?
and do you guys think this will improve the high's in my 8.1...kasi for my setup to sound nice..have to put the treble to 1:00 position
Peace 8)
Bro the price of the 5500 is 34k at Spectra and Archi. Audio.
And nope the AVR525 is not the 5500 yung 5500 ang counterpart nya sa US eh AVR520 while the counterpart of AVR525 here is the AVR5550 which is already a 7.1 receiber at naka DD EX na while yung 5500 eh DTS ES lang and 5.1 upgradable to 7.1.
Hope dis helps
Thanks pukx and Courage :)
btw..me idea ka pa sa price range nun AVR5550? and cnong retailer meron?
just get the 5500 then get an outboard amp later. dd-ex is not really discrete, any dolby digital movie can be matrixed to DD-EX. your wharfs should sing with the hk's
actually, yung AVR225 ang kaparehas ng 3550. 5.1 lang siya.
hehe hilo na ata ako..medyo magulo yan HK ano..dapat kasi di na nila pinalitan yun model number for US and ASIA...
anyways so ano yun katumbas nun AVR325? me idea ka din ba magkano yun?
i tried using diamond dfs (naka-hiram ako for a day). not designed for music, for ht ok siya and it does compliment my 8.4's and 8c. used for music , medyo di ko na-appreciate since mids nya is malakas (or is it my ears). i removed it and connected my 8.1s' uli, naging balance lahat for music.
What kind of surround speakers should you go with? If you plan on using your system primarily for movies, I recommend a dipole or bipole design. If for music, use monopoles. If you want the best of both worlds, there are a few receivers that let you switch between two pairs of surround speakers."
yup IMO, maganda nga sya for HT...pero for me ok din sya for music..hmmm..haven't had the chance for trying an 8.1 sa rear so baka nga mas maganda ito.btw,how do you hang a 8.1 sa rear wall..me nabibili na bang bracket for 8.1?
saka alam ko sa DFS...biplolar sya hindi dipolar..anybody here know the diff between a dipole and bipole?
yup IMO, maganda nga sya for HT...pero for me ok din sya for music..hmmm..haven't had the chance for trying an 8.1 sa rear so baka nga mas maganda ito.btw,how do you hang a 8.1 sa rear wall..me nabibili na bang bracket for 8.1?
saka alam ko sa DFS...biplolar sya hindi dipolar..anybody here know the diff between a dipole and bipole?
People,
To those who own Diamond 8.1 speakers, maybe you might want to read this review form a Malaysian review site.
http://202.186.86.35/audio/story.asp?file=/2002/8/22/audiofile/22wharfedale
;)
AVDude,
How do you position your Diamond DFS? Sa rear ba as recommended doon sa brochure ng Wharfs or sa sidewalls which is recommended sa Dolby site?
Hi, does anyone happen to know if the Pacific series Wharfs are available already at Ambassador?
Also, any idea about their prices:
EVO-8, EVO-10, EVO-20, EVO-30, EVO-40
Lastly, will Onkyo TX SR600 be a good match with the Wharfs 8.3 or 8.4?
Thanks.
wow!i think di pa to available dito..since kakarelease lang nito sa US..
available na ba sa local market ang ZALDEK series na to bro? and how much naman kaya? -- ::)
wow!
available na ba sa local market ang ZALDEK series na to bro? and how much naman kaya? -- ::)
If I am not mistaken I saw this speakers at ParkSquare 1 (A/V Shop besides Columbia Computers). Not sure though.
made a comparison... 8.3 and 8.1 as fronts.. all i can say is... 8.1 sounds so much better!!!! just wait for it to get broken in.. 8.3 has good bass in my opinion..problema highs nasasapawan ... siguro ok ang 8,3 if paired with ixos 6006 cables.. bi wiring also helps
Me too, I'm enjoying my 8.3s even more now. Its been set-up toed-in ever since I got hold of it ( close to 30 to 35 degrees yung angle and about 8ft apart) but nung matapos akong mag-braid ng cat5 utp cables and installed it to the 8.3s para na siyang 8.1s na mas maganda at malakas ang bigay ng bass.
other comments here and this one, give me the impression that 8.1 is really better than the 8.3--- ::) this seems to be very ironic kasi mas mahal ung 8.3--- would u guys share me a good reason why despite the observation of so many wharf owners about the performance of the 8.1 against the 8.3, e marami pa rin yatang naghahangad sa 8.3?
Well my 8.3 really sounds good....
And that is because of the Receiver you are using...
Nobody is saying one should replace his/her receiver.
It is the Receiver.
Oh, don't tell me that even if my receiver is a low-current amplifier with just 5 watts of power and my Diamond 6ohms 8.3 will sound good with it.
It is the Receiver.
Courage's Receiver is powerful, high-current and can even drive a hard-driven 4ohms-speaker, wharfedale diamonds are somewhat hard to drive.
and it is because of the receiver.
SEBMAN..kayang kaya ng hk mo yun wharfs!!!! Also..speaker placement is important.. 8.3's should be away from corners and walls.. This is one thing I also observed
Hey guys, what are the symptoms that show na nahihirapan i-drive ng isang avr ang mga speakers? I have 8.3s as fronts and an entry level pioneer avr rated at 100 watts into 8ohms.
ung floorstander ba ung crystal 20?
boss phil, san ka naka-kuha ng price? hows the performance?
Nope. Crystal 20 is like the size of the Diamonds 8.2. I think the floorstander (like in the above picture), is the Crystal 40, if not Crystal 30.ahh..pero halos mgkaprice rin cla nung diamonds.. ;)
...... If Philander is refering to an SS amp rated 5Watts, it must be his Cassette/CD radio...
pa-share na lang mga sirs nung comments nung mga nakapag-audition na regarding this new wharfedale series. mas oks ang itsura nung crystal series compared sa zaldek series.. parang futuristic approach yung zaldek e.. hehehehehe meron ding kayang black yung crystal series? :D
boss phil, sa sound simensions may nakita kang available na crystal 30 or 40?
Yup black ang available sa Sound Dimension.
No Crystal 30 and 40 yet, kararating pa lang kahapon nung Crystal 10, 20 and center, mainit pa from box. Baka parating pa lang din.
thanks philander.. ;) sana dumating na rin yung mga floorstanders nila.. mas mura to kesa yung pinag-iipunan kong m73i or b2.. ;D same din kaya sila ng quality nung diamond series but is easier to drive compared to the diamonds..
sebman, try checking out listening room in megamall, nan dun ako the other day, although they don't have the crystal series yet but diamond are priced affordably the (8.4 @7k+, 8.1 and center @3k plus)
sebman, try checking out listening room in megamall, nan dun ako the other day, although they don't have the crystal series yet but diamond are priced affordably the (8.4 @7k+, 8.1 and center @3k plus)
3k plus each, sorry. bumaba narin yung price, siguro this is due to the zaldek and crystal series. medyo na gulat nga rin ako dun sa price
thanks kimpao.. tamang tama pag lunch break lagi kaming nandyan sa megamall.. mabisita nga yang listening room.. :D
sebman, try checking out listening room in megamall, nan dun ako the other day, although they don't have the crystal series yet but diamond are priced affordably the (8.4 @7k+, 8.1 and center @3k plus)
nasa Listening Room kami ni tsonggo_26 last night yung diamond 8.1 P4.65K pa rin ang price.
canvassed it as a whole set (8.1s and 8.3s. mas mataas sila magbigay kung per piece. i don't, but that was just a quote that their sales rep gave me. :)
ah ok whole set na pala ;D
pero sana nga ibaba pa nila yung price ng per piece
alam daw nya? he he he
Are you sure, 8.1 and center for just 3K plus, or 8.1 and center for 3k plus each.
Even so, I think the 8.1 SRP is 4.65K, if that so, bumaba na rin ang price.
Hi av_phile!
where do you find 3k diamond center? how about the lowerst on diamond 8.1 - any sighting?
Hi Philander,
Ang baba na pala ngayon ng diamond center, 3k. Hope you're not regretting your purchase of my 8C. Saw an FS for an 8C also 3 mos old, going for 3k.
Salamat mga bossing! San ba Ambassador sa makati?
Salamat mga bossing! San ba Ambassador sa makati?
Salamat mga bossing! San ba Ambassador sa makati?
went to a friend's house, who is also a pinoydvd'er and fellow audio/video enthusiast...well my 1st objective was to see his new baby girl...tapos 2nd mission heheh is to test his HK receiver w/ my Wharfedale 8.1
His current setup is made up of B&W 601's ,etc...so we tried a couple of DVD's and CD's w/ his setup then we switched to the Wharfs...one thing i can say...not dissapointing at all...kala ko syempre malayo yun difference kasi pricewise almost 4x ata yun price nun..pero glad to say na..sonic wise maganda nga sya...gulat nga din kami pareho sa tunog eh ;D
anyways...next mission ko is to compare them w/ the dyns..kasi been hearing a lot of good stuff about it..just hope malayo talaga quality nito para ma justify yun pagbili ko nto for my future audio only setup
thanks for the FR sir AVdude.. planning also to get the 8.1 since i heard that when i audition my HK 2550.. and ganda ng tunog.. :) never heard it connected to a m73i or a b2.. mas maganda kaya ang tunog nun or same din? ;D
seb advice ko magaudition ka muna pwede sa spectra car park makati kay jim mabait naman yon..... para malaman mo talaga ang pagkakaiba
j_albert22.. thanks for the advice.. would audition pag me pera na ako.. para pag nagustuhan ko.. balot na agad.. ;D
I'm just a super newbie and needs some good adviceyou can try the diamond series 8.3 or 8.2 for your fronts & wh-2 for your center/surround. it will cost you under 12k for the 5 speakers
I'm planning to buy wharf can you recommend any?, my room is small lang so kahit yung lumang version ok lang.
How much would it cost me to setup whaferdale sepeaker set?
I wanna use yamaha 630 receiver, will that be a good match with whaferdales, what model of whaferdale is good with this avr?
you can try the diamond series 8.3 or 8.2 for your fronts & wh-2 for your center/surround. it will cost you under 12k for the 5 speakers
all 5 speakers for just 12T, ok na siguro yan, pero wala pa yan sub diba?
how much ba sub ng whaferdale?
how much naman for their crystal series?
Salamat mga bossing! San ba Ambassador sa makati?
i'm very much interested in the wharf 8 series, can i ask for nelry's email addy so i can send my inquiries to him. thanks.
can anyone tell if this setup is ok
avr - yamaha 630
center - diamond center
front - 8.3
rear - 8.1
question: kaya ba i drive ng 630 yun 8.3?
how much na set ng diamond 8 speakers?,
wer to buy?
kayang kaya!!! ok na yan.. thought mag hk ka?
kulang mo na lang sub ;D
can anyone tell if this setup is ok
avr - yamaha 630
center - diamond center
front - 8.3
rear - 8.1
question: kaya ba i drive ng 630 yun 8.3?
how much na set ng diamond 8 speakers?,
wer to buy?
Thanks to the people who provided the directions. 8)
bro, sent u pm.
Thanks to the people who provided the directions. 8)
pre, sent u pm din.
ano ba maganda sub, ok ba yung whaferdale na sub
presars
pre, i think mdsaint3 is still selling his diamond 8.1's (3 months old, ata if right).
Can anyone pls quote an average price of diamond series vs crystal series? Current price in the market will be good.
spectra lang
ok san gut? :)
Anyone who can tell me where I can audition the Wharfs with an HK2550? ???
ano ba mas ok na receiver 2550 or 630 for whaferdale, di ko kasi sila macompare eh?
Technically, mas lamang yung Yamaha 630 in most aspect: power, pre-outs, 6.1 channel, DD-EX, DTS-ES compatible(matrix), component video switching, 96khz/24bit DAC.
Yung Harman 2550 - High current, 5.1 channel, 192khz/24-bit DAC, no 5.1 analog input, no pre-outs.
Sound quality.. subjective. I like the sound of Harman but between the two, i'll choose the Yamaha 630.
boss phil, question. what i do understand is that 6.1 matrix of rxv630 is wherein it uses the other channel's frequency in order to produce a sixth channel? (am i getting it right?) now 6.1 discrete has a separate 6th channel. in your and others opinion, which is better?
My cent.
boss phil, question. what i do understand is that 6.1 matrix of rxv630 is wherein it uses the other channel's frequency in order to produce a sixth channel? (am i getting it right?) now 6.1 discrete has a separate 6th channel. in your and others opinion, which is better?
saan store ako makakakuha ng discount if I'll buy a whaferdale package + avr?
yamaha 630
whaferdale 8.1, center, 8.3
ok ba yung hk2550 or mas ok yung yamaha 630
they also have packages for higher model amps like 630 just go there.. to goldcrest or shangrila
where is goldcrest?
Anyone who can tell me where I can audition the Wharfs with an HK2550? ???
I went to ambassador greenhills yesterday and they have a package for whaferdale + avr
yamaha 530 + diamond = 30k
yamaha 630 + diamond = 33k
Ano kaya mas maganda sa dalawa?
Is there a lot of difference between 530 and 630?
Can I still get a better price than this?, wer?
I went to ambassador greenhills yesterday and they have a package for whaferdale + avr
yamaha 530 + diamond = 30k
yamaha 630 + diamond = 33k
Ano kaya mas maganda sa dalawa?
Is there a lot of difference between 530 and 630?
Can I still get a better price than this?, wer?
Please identify items under wharfedale package so we can determine if that is a good deal. 630 in listening room I was told is just 17k, this means your wharfedale is priced at 16k. 8.3 is 6.9k, 8.1 is 4.6k, 8C is 3.7k or 15.2k total - so what do you think?
try considering crystals. halos walang pinagka-iba with diamonds but price is much lower (ask nelrey about crystals, i got mine from him last saturday, am currently breaking it in. CR-40 7.8 k, center 3.6 K, CR-10 3.9 K) yung CR-10 i still have to get from him. CR-40 is equivalent to 8.4 and CR-30 is 8.3. di ko natanong kay nelrey kung magkano yung CR-30
sir kimpao.. comparable na rin ba sya sa diamonds? post your reviews.. thanks
Please identify items under wharfedale package so we can determine if that is a good deal. 630 in listening room I was told is just 17k, this means your wharfedale is priced at 16k. 8.3 is 6.9k, 8.1 is 4.6k, 8C is 3.7k or 15.2k total - so what do you think?
only thing i noticed (between CR-40 and diamond 8.4, since i previously have 8.4's (ang napansin ko kasi is majority of wharf owners here are using 8.3 kaya ko rin siguro nasabing medyo mas malakas yung bass sa 8.4). mas mild yung bass niya. i tested it using the following cds; enya, acoustic alchemy, dave grusin. for dvds; starwars (1&2) LOTR (1&2). previously kasi parang bitin sa akin yung mids and highs parang nasasapawan ng bass yung ibang frequencies (or is it just me?). still need to get the CR-10's inorder for me to compare it with the 8.1 . Kailangan i-break-in ko pa yung crystals siguro after a month. nga pala naka bi-wire ako for the fronts and center. i'm using CAT 5 double braided 15 pair, so basically,these are 30 CAT 5 wires twisted and braided together (homemade lang ito, masakit lang sa kamay).
sa looks, tama si boss 45mm, mas mataas yung crystals pero well proportioned siya sa width (mas ok tingnan kung gagamitin mo yung spikes!) sa grills, whoahey!!!! parang "spartan" may maaasahan kang tibay.
yup, pag-tinanggal na ang takip...no doubt guwapo talaga ang kevlars. overall, you can get diamonds for less. aheheheeh
;D
Sebman,
The site is :
http://www.venhaus1.com/diycatfivecables.html
Just a word of advice in braiding these cat5s cable, have enough surgical gloves (mas maganda yung fit na fit sa hand mo) in store para di manakit ang mga daliri mo at iwas paltos din.
I'm using cat5 (27 braided pairs) sa 8.3 ko. Sa diamond center (naka-biwire) ko naman 9 braided pairs for the HF and 18 braided pairs for the LF.
Enjoy.
Sebman,
The site is :
http://www.venhaus1.com/diycatfivecables.html
Just a word of advice in braiding these cat5s cable, have enough surgical gloves (mas maganda yung fit na fit sa hand mo) in store para di manakit ang mga daliri mo at iwas paltos din.
I'm using cat5 (27 braided pairs) sa 8.3 ko. Sa diamond center (naka-biwire) ko naman 9 braided pairs for the HF and 18 braided pairs for the LF.
Enjoy.
sir san ba listening room yan?, nagpunta kasi ako dun sa mega nd robinson's and sabi nung mga nandun 18,800 daw talaga with discount na daw yun eh :P.
Sino ba dapat kausapin dun?
Megamall 3rd floor, almost on the side of the supermarket (1st floor). Look for the bokal guy there - mukhang yon ang owner, not the sales people. get the last discounted price.
sya ba nagbigay sa'yo ng discount?
I want to get yamaha 630 + whaferdale, do you think I can get further discount?
sya ba nagbigay sa'yo ng discount?
I want to get yamaha 630 + whaferdale, do you think I can get further discount?
pwede i package kahit ano sa ambasador.. just tell them..iba lang nasa poster pero pwede yan.. si alex pa bait nunsan ambassador yan pre? yung package nila pwede pa kaya tawaran yun?
meron ba sila package for 630 + whaferdale? ang alam ko kasi 630 + yamaha speakers lang eh. Sa ambassador meron 630 + whaferdale diamond series for 33k, pro di yata maganda service dun eh.
meron ba sila package for 630 + whaferdale? ang alam ko kasi 630 + yamaha speakers lang eh. Sa ambassador meron 630 + whaferdale diamond series for 33k, pro di yata maganda service dun eh.
meron ba sila package for 630 + whaferdale? ang alam ko kasi 630 + yamaha speakers lang eh. Sa ambassador meron 630 + whaferdale diamond series for 33k, pro di yata maganda service dun eh.
me wharfedale din sila.. maganda sir kausapin mo yung me-ari para makakuha ka ng package for it.. yung kalbong guy na tisoy yun.. ;D regarding the service, ang sinasabi lang naman nung mga fellow members natin is nde maganda mag-audition don sa ambassador kasi feeling mo e nde ka welcome.. pero kung 200 %decided ka na to get that combo e nde mo na kailangan ng service.. just go to that store, pay and take home the goods.. :D
nakita ko nga yung kalbo dun ;D
I'll try sa spectra, lr and ambassador and get the lowest price. thanks for all the advice :)
For spectra, look for Jim/Nino. I got my yamaha+wharfedale+dq12+cable+gold connectors at very reasonable price of P26k.
630 ba yan pre? yung whferdale mo diamond series ba or wh2 yung center?
Its 430+wh2. You may get a better discount if you personally talked to them. They are also giving away a discount on whatever preference you require in a mix and match Yamaha+wharfedale setup. I think inuubos na lang nila ito kaya sale na.
mura yan pre :o, sa ambassador it's 39k. I'll call them later and hopefully get a good discount for a 630 + diamond series :)
Dude,
Double check if WH-2 talaga yun o Diamond Center and 8.1 yung package.
thanks for the review sirs.. OT lang sir.. could you teach me or show me a site where i can read how to create speaker cables from a cat 5 networking cables.. i got some spare cat 5e which we used from previous networking jobs.. ;D thanks
oo nga wh2 center and rear is 3500, 630 around 18.k so impossible umabot ng 39 yan
pare wrong info 33k pala sa ambassador mali yun type ko, sorry :-[
33k for 630 + 8.3, 8.1 , diamond center
Dude,
Check my previous post... about my deal with ambassador. Madali lang kausap yung may-ari (makati branch), you could still get a good deal.
BTW, AFAIK yung yammy combo nila includes the DQ-12 sa Wharfs. KUMPLETO KA NA!!
Presars,
Congrats buo na pala setup mo according ko Sebman.. galing pre..
Pare kumusta na setup mo? Di ko masyado nagagamit ang akin, too busy sa construction nang bahay, para di na mapulaan ang setup ko ehehehehe
cguro pinaghahandaan mo ng mabuti yun AV room ano? ;D
Presars,
Congrats buo na pala setup mo according ko Sebman.. galing pre..
Not really, i decided to put my setup sa sala, pagnakaipon nang malaki maybe i can afford to construct a dedicated AV room pero for the meant time sa sala na muna lahat setup..problema lang eh speaker placement nang surrounds kasi malayo ang wall sa likod, thats why im in still search for a ceiling bracket na pwede sa Wharfs 8.1 para sa surround speakers ehehehe
cool.do post a new pic pag tapos na... ;D
ako nga din..am itching to go back para ayusin yun A/V room ko..heheh para makapost din ng pic..kahit very simple lang yun
Got my Wharfe 8c at Spectra for 3K only (w/o box). Mura nga dun.
Tsk,tsk, baka mainggit si positive noise.
Good bye nga kung makukuha mo ang 8.4 nang P6.5k lang. Not decided yet kung papalitan ko ang sa akin nang crystal40...any suggestions sa mga meron nang crystals...
I was informed that they also sell 1 unit of wharf 8.4 for P6.5k (without box din). Hmmmm....This is a good deal.
Good bye nga kung makukuha mo ang 8.4 nang P6.5k lang. Not decided yet kung papalitan ko ang sa akin nang crystal40...any suggestions sa mga meron nang crystals...
sir me libre din bang region 3 dvd yun? and black ba yung kulay nung 8.4? thanks
bnew ba yung mga walang box or display unit?
According to Jim (the sales person), yes it is. It is a display unit.
katatawag ko lang sa spectra.. available pa daw yung 8.4 na black in color daw.. nde nga lang si jim nakausap ko.. 8T yung walang box.. :o
katatawag ko lang sa spectra.. available pa daw yung 8.4 na black in color daw.. nde nga lang si jim nakausap ko.. 8T yung walang box.. :o
Ganyan talaga sila mag quote ng price via phone, punta kayo, in-person kasi sila nagbibigay ng tawad.
Ganyan talaga sila mag quote ng price via phone, punta kayo, in-person kasi sila nagbibigay ng tawad.
ganun nga ang review nila sa spectra, mas maganda daw ang diamonds, fair kaya yun na makita agad nila ang difference kahit na baguhan palang ang crystals? Take note, bago ang crystal at diamond na kinumpara nila at di pa tapos ang break-in period.
...although sa looks, pag tinanggal ang maskara. diamond pa rin ako.
magnetically shielded ba yun diamond center
yup saktong-sakto lang yan. parang sinukat. if you want something smaller get the wh2. yung crystal center medyo maliit ng konti sa diamond center. just don't which is smaller wh2 or crystals pagdating sa center
One of my friend told me that according to a Seller of Whaf! Mas maganda parin daw yung Diamond Series.
positive_noise. ;D
sir
wer to find spectra ? may no. ka ba nila
8.1s plus DQ12 sub good combo for me. Just experiment with the settings of the sub. Also use at least 16g speaker cables for the 8.1s.
Speaking of exploits? What other enhancements did you guys do with your diamonds? Bi-wire, sand-fill (8.3/4), etc?
8.3/4 lagyan mo ng buhangin half-filled yung ACO sand (binistay na!). kung gusto mo ng masmalinis, try mo aquarium sand yung pinaka pino, pre. another enhancement is to bi-wire. remove the gold plated flat connectors tapos sundin mo inorder (yung mga naka-label sa bawat binding post) yung connection sa bawat wire. yet, another one of those enhancements is to upgrade the crossovers within the speakers.
yung last, di ko na sinubukan, some say that halos wala rin difference from the original. tanong mo si mdsaint yung performance nung naka-upgrade.
para sa akin yung bi-wiring ang noticeable ang difference (ginamitan ko ng CAT5 in the following order, single braid 9 pair for LF double braid 15 pair for HF).
you are correct, use the high gauge for the LF and low gauge to HF. However, I suggest, before doing that, compare using all wires 9+15 pairs to connect both LF/LF to your system, and the biwiring, and select which one suits you most.
I am experimenting with 32pairs UTP twisted cable. have not compared seriously yet with #10AWG if there is any difference.
yup jofkevski is right, i tried it both but the config that i prefer is 9 pair for LF and 15 pair for HF(might be the braiding procedure that i did?). i haven't tried experimenting without the braids yet. double braids kasi yung ginagawa ko for the cables. does this really have an effect, jofkevski? inputs naman bosing. am also in the process of making a 21 pair double braid.
Baka mamis-interpret. I did not use UTP cable as is. But instead of braiding (painful and time consuming tasks), what I did is to prepare 4 runs of UTP, strip them altogether from their PVC jacket, then twist them altogether in an orderly and consistent form (aesthetics) to a point that they will form a single rolled cable without going back to their original form - meaning they hug each other permanently. this makes the first 16-pairs (4pair x 4 cable). Then make another one again thru the same procedure to come up with the next 16-pair twisted together. Then braid the two 16pair cable, while braiding, giving another slight twist to the direction that will compel each 16pair group to hug the other (its a technique though), and presto I have a pair of 32pair cable aker in about 4 hours continuous work.
I have tested this for a short while, replacing my 2x #12AWG per speaker, and I think I like the sound, but can not tell exactly the difference as I have not sat for quite a long time with my system due to other pressing needs.
Doing 21pairs or 24 pairs or 15+9 pairs is worth the effort if you refuse to spend on expensive cable. I will post the equivalent gauges doing your cable and the theoretical implication it has on your sound later.
My Diamond 8.1 is presently tied to #10AWG being tested as well, while my 32pair waits until his time comes. My initial assessment: on the bass portion, I did not notice any significant change. In the HF, the 8.1 seems to have more clarity with the 32pair. I do not have the 27pair made by losi_phile though.
Bro,
I've read that there is really a positive effect on SQ when you braid them. Kimpao did braiding, maybe he can throw some inputs. :)
Mdsaint,
Pre when you got the cable.....
pwede makirinig din hehehe
yup jofkevski is right, i tried it both but the config that i prefer is 9 pair for LF and 15 pair for HF(might be the braiding procedure that i did?). i haven't tried experimenting without the braids yet. double braids kasi yung ginagawa ko for the cables. does this really have an effect, jofkevski? inputs naman bosing. am also in the process of making a 21 pair double braid.
Anyone care to sell eighter 8.1s or 8.3s for reasonable yet A1 condition units?
wharfedale diamonds take a long time to break in.. i suggest to do your normal listening lang..
bro sigma,
sent you a pm.
fyi.
vax 8)
hello guys!
just bought myself an 8.3 today. funny but when we paired it with Rotel amp, sound is abit thin. But it was really big on the NAD C320 at the shop. same naman sila 50W amp.
I'll start break-in tonight with my NADC350. how do I make this process less painstaking? Or should I go slow? how many hours of no sleep na ito?
am going to use this set for my head banging, pelvis twisting musak! :) yahu!
brother slayer! tulong :)
thanks guys
which is why you can tweak the diamonds by adding a crossover inside ;D
guys,
pagka alam ko lahat ng speakers (kung hindi din lang full range) may crossover sa loob.
its either you wait for them to break in or just switch to missions for lesser breakin time. Although i'm not using wharfedale diamonds I am using a floorstander with an 8 inch kevlar woofer, medyo matagal talaga, initially matigas yung bass, pero pagtagal... ;D btw if you have a high powered amp you'll really hear how well they perform, ganoon talaga yata characteristic ng kevlar. B&W speakers use kevlar drivers and they sound best when used by high powered amps.
hans!
hehe...thanks dude..kitatok nako ng kapitbahay kagabi...
ayaw daw nila ng Queen!!! :lol:
peeps, will be purchasing my speakers soon, mission m72i as my fronts and maybe wharfs for my center and surround. will they match? coz i cant afford to have missions for my center and surround. where can you buy the cheapest wharfs? btw, will be pairing them with a yamaha620.
ganyan akin dati wharf 8.3 , center and 8.1 w onkyo 500
for me. it was ok for music.but not for ht. also think that hirap ang onkyo to power the wharfs. my own opinion only.
Bro,
Long time no hear..kaya pala nag upgrade ka he!!he!!
dex
ganyan akin dati wharf 8.3 , center and 8.1 w onkyo 500
for me. it was ok for music.but not for ht. also think that hirap ang onkyo to power the wharfs. my own opinion only.
for those who tried bi wiring their 8.1s, what gauge of wires did you use for the HF anf LF? ok lang ba if i used thesame gauge of wires for both HF and LF which is 14 gauge? or should i use gauge 16, yung mas manipis for the High Frequency?
thanks!
hey guys!
i tested the Wharf atlantic 200b sa SM fairview driven by a konzert amp. to my ears ok ung crispiness nya and its bass is tight. at high db level smooth pa rin sha. this is 100 w / 90 db sensitivity. Price- 4,590php.
anybody here using this? mga sirs post nyo naman review nyo sa speakers nato--thnks ;D
is it ok to set the yamaha's impedance to 4ohms when using wharf 8.4, center, and atlantic 200... these are all 6ohms... di ba madadamage yung receiver (440) at speakers
Thanks.
yung receiver will have a hard time to drive those speakers. have you tried or checked other settings for your receiver? ano current settings mo sa receiver?
bro, might as well consider 8.3 or 8.4 if your really planning on getting wharfs.
tama si sir kimpao, kayang kayang ng pioneer mo yan sir jerix. no problem driving 8.4 ;)
my present speakers are the big old speakers which i bought way back 5 yrs ago when i was not yet a member of this forum.
with the big AA sub, i already have enough lows. gusto ko naman e-improve ang mids and highs. i am planning to connect the speakers in series with the present speakers. m choosing between the 8.1 and the atlantic 200. sa tingin nyo guys which is better for my setup? thanks for any advise. :)
May we know what your "big old" speakers are? It's not always necessary that the newer speakers are better than the old.
tamulmol, was at nelreys place last saturday, naka sabay ko si newbie. he was planning to get the dfs for surrounds and wh2 for centers. sabi namin sayang lang if he gets those two items. we told him to get the 8.1 for surround and might as well save up for the diamond center. iba pa ein yung tunog ng 8.1, di siya masakit sa tenga. bro, try mo maglagay ng sand (bistay, advise ni bos levi) sa loob ng 8.3 para mas tight yung bass.kimpao, i ordered the wh2 set from nelrey to be delivered on saturday here in calamba. medyo tight kse budget. btw, how's the performance of crystal 10 for surrounds as compared to 8.1s? nice meeting you bro.
Usually break period are 50 to 100 hours pero para mabilis ma break in try mo face to face style of breakin in..
just got my 8.3 last saturday from nelrey (met kimpao there)
medyo mahina yung bass using rxv440
payat yung sound nya pag naka-off yungsoundsub
talaga bang mag iiba pa ang tunog non after a while?
any suggestion para mapabilis ang break-in?
kimpao, i ordered the wh2 set from nelrey to be delivered on saturday here in calamba. medyo tight kse budget. btw, how's the performance of crystal 10 for surrounds as compared to 8.1s? nice meeting you bro.
bro, pareho lang tunong ng cr-10 sa 8.1 sa ngayon dahil di pa broken-in. bi-wire mo yung 8.3 para lumakas yung bass niya 12g sa LF 14g sa HF.
just got my 8.3 last saturday from nelrey (met kimpao there)
medyo mahina yung bass using rxv440
payat yung sound nya pag naka-off yung sound
talaga bang mag iiba pa ang tunog non after a while?
any suggestion para mapabilis ang break-in?
bro, pareho lang tunong ng cr-10 sa 8.1 sa ngayon dahil di pa broken-in. bi-wire mo yung 8.3 para lumakas yung bass niya 12g sa LF 14g sa HF.
sir pano napagsama yung 14ga at 12ga biwiring kaysa ba ito sa terminal ng 440? sa akin kasi makapal na yung 12ga. info naman po kung pano mo nitwist/combine yung dalawa para magkasya sa speaker terminal.
thanks.
re:banana plugs, i bought this gold plated banana plugs from nelrey for 100pesos each. I think it can hold as much as 4 lines of 12ga.
kimpao is right, mine is 440 and i used banana plugs to connect the speakers
HTNovice,
san ka nakakuha ng 12g na speaker cables? anong tatak and how much per meter?
HTNovice,
san ka nakakuha ng 12g na speaker cables? anong tatak and how much per meter?
may i ask which store sells wharfdale wh2 and how much?
james, sent you a pm reply.
Dolby,
8.1 mas maganda vocal compare to 8.2 kung bass syempre meron yun 8.2 but I feel bitin pa rin kaya better have sub to compliment konti lang naman bookshelf na can go low have them before but love the 8.1 than his big brother..
instead of buying stands for the 8.1. mas ok bang mag 8.3 sa fronts and 8.1 surrounds?
salamats.
just my opinion lang po. . . later plan to watch 2fast2furious ;D ;D ;D something to look forward to at home aside from my wife and kids. ;)
LTcool,
Actually ok na 8.4 but iba pa rin may SUB especially for Home Theater wider ang soundstage compare to walang sub.. so mas feel mo action..
yeah jerix, the zaldek2000 rocks, pero i haven't heard yet the 8.4s, yung 8.3s pa lang na audition ko and i found na yung 8.3 parang kulang sa bass, kailangan pa ng sub pag 8.3s. So eto i'm having second thoughts on 8.4s. I have to audition the 8.4s muna.
Cheers,
-LtCool-
i currently use 8.1s for my fronts, would it be ok if i set them on brackets. commonly brackets are used for the surrounds. would using the brackets for the fronts have negative effects?
triplex,
Its ok to mount your fronts... just remember that your fronts should be firing on your listening ear level and sound must go on a straight line.
How much na ba 8.4s?
Jerix,
Sa L4B8 Cliff Drive St. Ridge Mont Exec. Village, Brgy. San Isidro Taytay Rizal right after Valley Golf. Papasok sa Mitsubishi Motors (PAMCOR) ang way papunta sa village namin. Kung makapunta ka lang, pakinggan natin pareho yung 8.1 and 8.3. Mas gusto ko yung 8.3 kasi wala akong magandang subwoofer. For you I guess ok ang 8.1 kasi maganda ang subwoofer mo. Hope we can meet.
losi_phile
wow! layo mo pala losi_phile-- ;D sa sjdm bulacan kasi ako, medyo malayo-- sayang- ::)
hina-hunting ko kasi ngayon ay speakers with very clear mids. kaya i think the 8.1 maybe great. now i really cant enjoy my sub to its full kasi whenever i pump its power, sa lakas nito yanig buong kabahayan at talo ang mids at highs ng setup ko.
LtCool,
I have an 8.3 and okay naman ang bass for me. If you're really looking for a punch... kelangan mo nga ng subs. BTW, what amp was used when you auditioned the 8.3?
Pero panalo talaga 8.4 because the mids and the lows have separate drivers. ;D
dear all,
Im a newbie here and I juz want to get some advice for yammie 340 (12.9K). Bago lang daw 2 sabi dun sa isang store (btw 4.5K lang pair ng 8.1 dun). I'm planning to get the 340 and a pair of 8.1 speakers. Ok ba ang combi na to or shall I get the 440? Mas mahal yata yung 440. In addition, for my surrounds and center, shall u suggest the WH2 pack or shall I get the diamond center (and wait muna plus 8.1 for surrounds ulit, later pag may cash ulit)?.
Tnx in advance.
Kevlar
ok na combi yan, yammies and wharfs. 440s are around 15.8K 75 or 85 watts ata. don't know about 340s but definitely mas mababa yung wattage.
my suggestion is get the 440s, 8.1 and the diamond center, gamit ka muna ng speakers nung mini compo (kung meron kang extra) for surround. kung may budget ka na, move your 8.1 to surrounds and get the 8.3's or 8.4's for fronts. again this is just a suggestion.
;D
Thanks mga 'igan... Ahehehehe.. 3 days na walang pasok. Solve na ata ang start ng break-in period. ;D ;D ;D
hello to all, this is nice to hear, kasi kakabili ko din lang ng ht. 440 at wharfs din gamit ko. salamat sa pinoydvd, bago ako bumili ay nakapili muna ako ng amp and speaker setup na match. more power to pinoydvd!
40 series of yamaha is just new. i think no one have ever tried it yet. going for 340 and 8.1 combi? ::)
Ok. thanks for the tips. It appears na pamahal nang pamahal setup ko. I might not get the setup ata 2loy dis wkend. Hintayin ko na lang ata ung december. hehehe. :'( :'( :'(
Thanks ulit. Morepower to u guys!
Kimpao,
I was just wondering how it came to be that a denon-wharf combi would sound bright? Btw, I'm also a yammie owner and I've always been hearing negative comments about our AVRs as being bright-sounding, etc. ???
With the wharf tweeter's limitations (weak highs), are you in effect saying that denon receivers are also bright-sounding contrary to what others are saying that they are warm-sounding?
I'm only a newbie and hence am no expert. I'm also not the type that auditions a lot. Just want to learn more about receivers and other HT stuff.
Peace! :D
Our WH-2 package consists of two bipolar rear speakers and a centre channel for adding to your existing front stereo speakers to produce a multi-channel system with ideal characteristics for Home Cinema and multi-channel music - without the need to trade-in your beloved stereo speakers.
Bipolar means that both sets of drive units respond in phase (at exactly the same time). With a pair of these mounted on a rear wall, the inner set of drive units provides a direct stereo image, whereas the other set of drive units, fires towards and bounces off the wall. This provides the ambient sound and creates a sense of space and openness around the subject.
A centre channel has to have a smooth even frequency response throughout the vocal section of the sonic spectrum - tuned slightly differently from other speakers, the centre channel will handle most of the dialogue and vocals, making it one of the most important speakers in any package - ours is no exception.
So, before you sacrifice your system completely to multi-channel, ask for an audition of WH-2 and enjoy the best of both worlds.
i just bought a set (center & surrounds) last week and installed it last saturday...
not bad! i like the small unobtrusive size, but its still capable of producing decent sounds. even my wife who was turned off on watching dvd's when i sold our HT to go stereo, has rediscovered her addiction, since we again have a 5.1 set-up :)
you may also want to consider hk 2550 for that. You may contact Architectural Audio at 811-6715... They have denon and hk receivers...
James16,
Have you tried already HK2550+diamonds? ok ba yung combination. Juz wondring the fact that 2550 has 40W only, can it drive these power hungry speakers? (e.i. 8.1 has 20-120W rating)
Hehehe. Salamat po!
Akolangnaman - Kevlar
congrats on your new babies and enjoy.... ;D
thanks! am now saving up for another set of fronts - kakapagod mag switch ng speakers from amp to receiver - tsaka gusto ko umiwas sa murphy's law: baka magdikit yung wires habang naka bukas pala ampli - PZZZZTTTTT!!! (goodbye amp) or baka baliktad kabit sa speakers RRRIIIIPPPP!!! (goodbye speakers)
Thanks to you guys.... can I ask ng price range ng HK2550? Lupeet ata sa budget... ;D ;D ;D
Thanks to you guys.... can I ask ng price range ng HK2550? Lupeet ata sa budget... ;D ;D ;D
Hi Antukin,
That's my set-up! Diamond 8.3 as fronts, Diamond Center, and Diamond 8.1 for surrounds with pioneer AVR. Very nice for me. But of course, you'll have to listen to them to really appreciate them and decide for yourself.
if budget permits, go for the 8.3 as fronts and 8.1 surrounds. try to also audition crystal since pareho sila ng tunog with diamond series, crystals are much cheaper than diamonds.
buti sa inyo wala pasok sa min meron. :( :( :(
-LtCool-
Thanks to you guys.... can I ask ng price range ng HK2550? Lupeet ata sa budget... ;D ;D ;D
bro, check-out the assorted buy and sell section. some is selling 8.4s at 6.6k, 1 month palang. ;D ;D ;D
ok ba yung nakita kosa greenbelt? yung sa tapat ng true value? wharfs na center at surround 3.7k? bale 3 piraso.
Hi mga sir!
Any suggestions about 440 and 8.4 fronts, diamond center and 8.1 surrounds?
I'm planning for 8.4 as my fronts, hanep sa porma eh. Juz wondring for match receivers.
Thanks,
Kevlar
I'm just curious though, how would you compare the cheap China made Wharfedales to locally made Dai-ichi speakers especially in terms of sound quality. thanks!
kevlar,
and a general q...di ba maganda ang 8.2
bakit puro 8.1 lang ang nababanggit dito..?
kevlar,
congrats sa bili mo! ehehe
sayang naunahan mo ako sa 8.4s..
review naman dyan ng purchases..
and a general q...di ba maganda ang 8.2
bakit puro 8.1 lang ang nababanggit dito..?
kevlar pa sama na rin sa review mo bass output ng 8.4. thaks.
Thanks mga tsong...
Anyways, I borrowed 1603 from a friend and tested the 8.4 , stereo mode. Hanep... ala akong masabi... despite the fact that hindi pa nga to nabibreak-in.... im satisfied with the highs, mids and bass. Mas prominent talaga ung mids, pero it was nice, it has very clear sounding... Ung acoustic guitar tsaka percussions, kala ko nasa tabi ko... kinatok ako ng kapitbahay ko, naku, kala ko patay ??? ??? nakidistorbo na ata.... Un pala usisero! makikijoin din! ganda daw ng tunog.... hahahahaha! ;D ;D ;D. Well, its just me. Hv to try it with other receivers pa.
Kevlar
told you bro, swak yan 8.4 sa yammies. now does it make you wonder if you still need subs? ;D congrat pre sa purchase mo, great buy yan! wait til it's broken in before you decide on buying subs (just an advise). try mo nga pala mag bi-wire for the 8.4s and center. :)
For Bass, Daichi.
Mids, Wharfs definitely.
Just my cent.
yep the dai-ichi with the silver thing on the woofer has really big bass for a bookshelf speaker..parang may sub.. although it lacks clarity
wharfes generally for me is "magitna".. ma mid nga siya..
i just want to know how the 8.4 and 8.2 sounds.. eh ive tried the 8.1 and 8.3 na kasi..
The 8.1 so far excelled from midrange to high freq, and won the competition in the price range, than 8.2. Its size and price add more value. I am just afraid that if you compare 8.1 and 8.2, 8.1 may still be better, considering that low frequency is now delegated to subwoofer.
I have the 8.4 for fronts. it's true that is great for both music and HT. For Ht however, it is nice to have a sub to take care of the below 35hz frequency (this is the freq range na nararamdaman kesa nadidinig.)
Hi Johnlen,
What receiver are you using for your 8.4s? I'm planning to get a match receiver for my 8.4 within the range of 13K-16K. Thanks in advance.
-Kevlar-
Hi Kevlar,
I am using the legendary Sony STR-DB930 (search the net to see what I mean), this receiver is trully rated at 100w RMS per channel (5.1 nga lang at hindi 6.1).
I've seen this unit still available at one of the stores in Park Square. You may want to audition for a different perspective.
Right now I am driving my fronts (8.4) with a Yamaha MX-1 power amp using the Sony receiver as preamp/processor.
You are welcome if you would want to hear my setup. just let me know.
Thanks for the reply sir and for the willingness to share your setup to starters like me!
Have you used denon 1603 to your 8.4's? Can you make a review comparing the output of 1603 and Sony STR-DB930 with respect to 8.4.
More power!
Kevlar,
Konting tiis lang pre since christmas bonus is around the corner hehehe.. HK na or check out sa assorted buy and sell baka meron pre-owned sayang din.. ;D
Hans,
Your ryt bro, Okay yung separate kaso yung drawback si misis baka ipukpok sa kin yung amp o kaya ibigti ako sa speaker wires, hehehe
Cheers,
-LtCool-
I just heard out-of-the-box 8.4 at spectra this afternoon and it sounded good, how much more if it was fully broken-in?
I heard also the KEF Q1 at sound dimension, i think this speaker can sing. btw they pair it with RX-V630. "B&W would be left behind by the sound of it" the guy at the store exclaimed.
Cheers,
-LtCool-
im contemplating the diamonds as my fronts
which is better 8.3 or 8.4?
and also contemplating on dai ichi cheaper alternative.
dai-ichi vs diamonds?
who will win?
Pre,
Pangit ang wharfs out of the box... seriously, nagandahan ka? ahehehe... wait till you hear those after 3 mos (break-in period). Di halos nagkakalayo sa high end speakers... adjust lang ng konti sa tones tsaka paired dapat sa HK siyempre!! ;D
im contemplating the diamonds as my fronts
which is better 8.3 or 8.4?
and also contemplating on dai ichi cheaper alternative.
dai-ichi vs diamonds?
who will win?
palibhasa naka-rinig kasi ng B4 itong si slayer ;D ;D ;D
balita ko bili ka daw next month ng b4. ahehehehe
;D ;D ;D ;D
Idol!!
Parinig ng Scott mo ha!! Ano B4 ka na? ahehehe...
Di pa... pagisipan ko pa route ko. So far, i'm very much happy with my wharf/hk combo. ;D
Kimpao,
Sir confirm na meet tayo bukas sa spectra text me the time na lang... audition natin ulit para sigurado tapos paired natin sa B4 or any speaker you like.. hehhehe
Slayer,
Idol kimpao ko na rin hehehe ganda ng scott nya.. ;D
peeps,
tanong lang po. how much do the 8.1s weigh? plan to use them as surrounds, wall mounted. wla sa specs sa site ang weight, dimensions lang. anyone with 8.1s and a weighing scale? ;D ;D ;D
peeps,
tanong lang po. how much do the 8.1s weigh? plan to use them as surrounds, wall mounted. wla sa specs sa site ang weight, dimensions lang. anyone with 8.1s and a weighing scale? ;D ;D ;D
kimpao,
thanks bro. actually tried emailing the wharfedale site and the did reply. 4.2 kilos per speaker daw :)
slayer,
what did u use for the wall mount pre? did u have to screw into the speaker? (ugh!)
kimpao, also plan to mount my 8.1s also, yung 1.4k na mounts from handyman, pair na ba? saw one, mga 1.5k isang piraso palang.
sir, 1 pair na yun
slayer,
what did u use for the wall mount pre? did u have to screw into the speaker? (ugh!)
Has anyone here tried pairing the 8.3's with an Onkyo 501? How about with a NAD 742?
Planning to get an entry level AV receiver for HT (60%) /audio (40%) use and I've narrowed down my list to:
1. Onkyo TX SR501
2. HK 2550
3. NAD 742
Speakers: Wharfedale Diamond 8.3 / 8 center / DFS 18 surrounds.
Sub: Hsu Research VTF-2
Thanks in advance for the inputs.
mga brod yun bang D8"s wharf are 6T priced? On sale na yan ngayon ah.
HK2550+Wharfs
ano ok na budget subwoofer dito?
how much?
thanks
I have wharf 8.4s. Mula na-uwi ko ang dalawa (from nelrey - ad) hindi ko na marinig ang active subwoofer ko. tama kaya ang set-up ko? hindi ko alam kung saan galing ang "boom" subwoofer or floorstanders. does it make a big difference for you guys if you can really hear the subwoofer? may avr is a hk, by the way.
pareng jerix, ayos na ayos yung mid ng 8.4 and the highs its aOK, heard it at spectra, I'm going for the 8.4s, hindi pa break-in yung speaker when i audition it.
I already ordered kay Nelrey sana mapaaga ng dating yung speakers, i wanna hook it up right away, bili na nga ako kaagad ng wires at banana plugs, parang panic buying, hehehe.
Cheers,
-LtCool-
LtCool,
Kamusta Wharfs natin? Broken-in na ba? ;D
[slayer],kimpao your right bros. im enjoying my 8.4s, nung una parang gusto kung ibalik kasi medyo muddy yung highs and mids pero i just waited until the speaker were broken-in upto -25 dB pa lang yung volume ko ang lakas na, and clear yung details, i bought pa nga yung best of chesky records test disc vol. 3 para lalong mapadali yung burn-in ng wires, equipment and speakers.
Kahit wala pa sub this babies shake my room when i played Craig David and Jaheim at -20 dB.
Im enjoying listening to Ana Caram, Jacintha, Diana Krall, Ella Fitzgerald and more... on this babies.
Cheers,
-LtCool-
Hi!
Okay na ba ito for entry level HT setup?
Yamaha rx-v440 (14,000 pesos)
diamond 8.1 (4,650 pesos)
diamond center + surrounds (3,850pesos)
pwede ko rin connect yung receiver sa pc ko right?
tsaka pangit ba talaga yung yamaha sa music? or normal lang? If hindi tlaga ganon kaganda, anong receiver dapat gamitin na both okay sa movies and music (same price range)? I plan to use it for dvd, music and games kasi. I'm pretty much set na sa speakers. Yung receiver na lang isip ko.
san places pa mas mura yang pinost ko na prices? yung mga prices galing sa park square.
LtCool tanx for the input. :) I already grab 8.4. HK 2550 with 8.4 for me swak na swak talaga. :) I was hesitant to get the wharf diamond before because there are many post here na mahina daw sa high ang wharf. When I tested 8.4, for me ayos na ayos sa clarity and high. I'm so glad na nag match sya sa existing HK 2550 ko. And guys, for the bass, talagang na overwhelmed ako. Super bass sya to the point na pinakinggan ko mga audio CDs ko without my sub turned on. Before I decided to buy it, I even tested it side by side with M73i. Fortunately, my untrain ears didn't notice the difference of the two speakers. :) Para bang they offered me ice creams that are branded with Magnolia and Selecta then asked me which brand taste good. The 8.4 I've got are out of the box. Not yet broken in. Ngayon palang, for me it is already a best buy. I'll update my post here after the break in period.
Because of this site(pinoydvd.com), I end up a very very happy user. Dito ko nakuha ang HK 2550 and wharf combi. :)
wheelbirth,
Pre very good match yun HK2550 and Wharf diamond.. you mention that you didn't notice diff between M73i and 8.4 aside from bass its maybe because of your HK driving the wharf.. wharf need power just like dynaudio to sing and give its true sound..
cousin skeeter,
correct ka sa point na buy the best your budget can handle...pero sometimes din kasi andun din yung fun sa upgrading..although hindi fun sa bulsa..yung bang may new toy ka every once in a while..
cousin skeeter,
itatanong ko plang nga kung nagkakalayo ba talaga ang sound ng b2 at 8.1 sinagot mo na kaagad!.. ;D
kasi yan din ang iniisip ko..kung konti lang difference nila sa sound mag titipid na lang ako at mag 8.1...
or kahit 8.4 pwede rin di ba.. but if the b2 is better talaga..then ipon pa rin konti ehehe
correct ka sa point na buy the best your budget can handle...pero sometimes din kasi andun din yung fun sa upgrading..although hindi fun sa bulsa..yung bang may new toy ka every once in a while..
I agree with pdividdy... once you're settled with your "best" setup... pretty soon you'll be looking for a better more.
And the cycle goes on and on...
you got me right between the eyes, pre :-X parang may symptoms na ako ng SARS!!!!!!!!
Pre,
Kinakati ka nanaman! Ahahaha... ;D
the 8.4s being only 8K+ and the B2 at 11K+, it does give one a lot to think about. its already a floorstander, with seperate mid and low freq drivers yet cheaper by almost 3K.
me, i wouldn't mind owning a pair of 8.4s someday. use them as fronts for my ht and use my b2s for a seperate audio setup.
anyway, merry christmas too pre kimpao!!
S2 / Dynaco ST-70 Series 1 :'( :'(
cousin skeeter,
yan nga ang orig plan ko 8.4 for the fronts..eh tapos nabasa ko yung monitor audio thread...nalito na ako ehehe
kasi mga 40% ht 40% ps2 20% audio ang gamit ko..but i already have a yammy sub..which is nice.. yun lang kasi kung gabi na nayayanig ang wood flooring namin so i need something na may bass...yung tama lang basta huwag naman parang 8.1 .. if the b2 has that baka b2 na lang...kung medyo kulang pa rin then back to the orig plan of 8.4.. yun nga lang i dont have that much space for a floorstander to breathe..
It's perfectly ok to desire new pieces of equipment since it's part of progress/change. This drives us to persevere more and not to be stagnant.
But for the time being... let's concentrate on what we have and not on what we do not have. This will make us appreciate our system more. ;)
It's like counting our blessings since most of the people out there do not even have the chance to enjoy a very basic kind of set up.
For the meantime.. let's continue to mate and rock with our system and save moolah to combat the SARS virus.... ahihi
HAPPY HOLIDAYS........ (am I making sense here?) ???
Wag mong kalimutan ipamana sakin yang B4 mo kung sakali! ;D Black ba B4 mo?black yung b4, pre? Ipamana? Bwahahahaha!!! ;D ;D ;D Yung kahon nalang nung b4 pwede.
DAMI MONG PERA!!
need your advice guys,
i'm presently using 8.1's for fronts pati diamond center, what would be more advisable, getting an 8.3 or an 8.4? or would getting additional 8.1's be advisable too? hope anybody can respond to this. thanks
need your advice guys,
i'm presently using 8.1's for fronts pati diamond center, what would be more advisable, getting an 8.3 or an 8.4? or would getting additional 8.1's be advisable too? hope anybody can respond to this. thanks
guys, thanks for the quick reply, i appreciate it. my receiver is a marantz 4300 and i'm quite impressed with the combination. so what you are saying is that i-8.1 all the way ko na?
It's perfectly ok to desire new pieces of equipment since it's part of progress/change. This drives us to persevere more and not to be stagnant.
But for the time being... let's concentrate on what we have and not on what we do not have. This will make us appreciate our system more. ;)
It's like counting our blessings since most of the people out there do not even have the chance to enjoy a very basic kind of set up.
For the meantime.. let's continue to mate and rock with our system and save moolah to combat the SARS virus.... ahihi
HAPPY HOLIDAYS........ (am I making sense here?) ???
8)do you have a sub? if so, i'd go for 8.1s. if not, 8.4s. make sure lang your avr can drive them. :)
Hans,
thanks. kamusta na din. it's been a long time since i went back here and yesterday dami ko binasa sa threads.
anyway i have kasi a small room for my ht lang around 3x4 meters lang and i'm really toying between another set of 8.1 or the twin towers. watchatink?
You are oh so right!!!
It''s like you tellling me, "hey yukon, tama na..."
Okay sige, just this one na lang... I need a Power Line Conditioner/Filter na lang talaga - eheheh...
Happy Holidays... (yes, you do make sense).
nad542 pa ;D
Waaaaahhhhh!!! :-[ :'(
lubayan nyo na ako!!!
Waaaaahhhhh!!! :-[ :'(
atsaka WS amp ;D
do you have a sub? if so, i'd go for 8.1s. if not, 8.4s. make sure lang your avr can drive them. :)cosin skeeter, thanks, yes i do have subs custom made by nirvblakr, and my avr is a marantz 4300
atsaka WS amp ;D
sir yukon,
di ba may souped up tubo kana? ;D ;D ;D
ssshhhh... :-X gawa namin (naks sama ako dun sa paggawa ano) ng kaibigan kong balikbayan... 8) 8) 8)
I made sure medyo hands-on ako para pag nag-trouble medyo maintindihan ko.
ssshhh... atin-atin lang...
crispin!!! basilio!!! nasa'n na kayo!!!?... ;D ;D ;D
anyone using 8.4s with a yamaha rx-v440? is it powerful enough to drive the Wharfs?
Any feedback would be appreciated. I was hoping to get this set-up soon. thanks :)
naki-audition ako kanina sa spectra at sights and sounds.. bakit muddy yung sound ng wharfes.. i heard 8.1 & wh-2..and 8.4.. dahil ba di pa na break in liliwanag ba ang sound kapag tumagal?...o ganon talaga..kasi last time ako nag audition ng 8.3 parang di naman ganon..hmmm...
Sir Bartman, baka mahirapan yung 440 sa 8.4 cause the speakers are rated 150 watts RMS though you may hear sound pero sayang kung hindi ma-i-drive yung speaker to its real potentials.
Instead, try pairing 8.3s for floorstanders or 8.1 if you want bookshelf setup.
Cheers,
-LtCool-
Sir Bartman, baka mahirapan yung 440 sa 8.4 cause the speakers are rated 150 watts RMS though you may hear sound pero sayang kung hindi ma-i-drive yung speaker to its real potentials.
Instead, try pairing 8.3s for floorstanders or 8.1 if you want bookshelf setup.
Cheers,
-LtCool-
@Hans Adriane and LtCool,
Ganon nanga lang siguro ang option ko. That's what I'm doing right now. Nag tataka nga si misis why I'm taking them off and on. ;D Usually, how many hours does it take before wharfs is fully broken in?
that's the problem with the design of the diamond series... the woofer produces rattling sounds if it can't handle the bass
kimpoy,
since i frequent the hardware store for materials for my dvd racks.. i just got the thickest speaker cables available ...halos kasing kapal siya ng pang extension cord...
you see im not really a hardcore hifi fanatic so it doesnt matter to me if i use those expensive cable..and the best thing of getting normal cables is that i can run both hf and lf wires from speaker to the amp and not just a small kapiraso to connect them both ehehe.. now it makes me wonder kung pareho lang kung kapiraso lang nga ginamit ko..nakatipid pa ulit ako ehehehe!
anyway, i was tinkering with the speaker placement kagabi.. kasi i couldnt get enough bass sa seating position ko.. pero kung tumayo ako may bass pag upo manipis na siya..kailangan ko siya ibaba pa kaso wala na akong mapapatungan halos ear level na ang tweeter bat ganon...dapat ba mas lower pa?
I still have one problem though. I still have the rattling sound problem with the 8.4 when playing R&B musics that have lots of BASS. But this problem is only present on extreme high volume like -20 to -15 decibels. Guys, is this normal? Or maybe my 8.4 are not yet fully broken in? If so, do you think the rattling sound will emanate after the break in period? I think my 8.4 are not yet fully broken in. I've been using them maybe 50 hours already. Hope, somebody here can give me advice on how to remove or atleast improve the rattling sound. Thanks. :)
Thanks for the reply. :) I forgot to tell that I do remove those grills when listening to stereo music. Any other suggestions? Thank you. :D
audiofan555
i also bought 8.1 and i agree with u about the bass (mahina talaga ang bass) u nid 2 have a good sub to do the bass thing.... somebody told me that the speakers should be break-in at low volume at 3 month period, after that the speakers are already broken in. FYI. 8)
good day guys, need your help.
i will be getting an 8.4, and a diamond center on the 8th of jan. am currently using an rxv530 and dfs surround. do i need to change my amp? i will be using it for ht/music, 50/50%. am currently using a prosound floorstander 6inch mid driver and 8inch main driver, dq12 sub and dtx center. my budget for a new amp if needed is around 20-25k. thank you in advance.
thank you sir kimpao for your advice. what model do you recommend? i am willing to spend around 20-25 thou.
Sirs,
What is the cheapest price of diamond 8 speakers? What HK model is their best match?
thanks :)
Sirs,
What is the cheapest price of diamond 8 speakers? What HK model is their best match?
thanks :)
Thanks Courage, I was planning to match it with HK2550 or HK3550...
Would also like to know what store sells diamond speaker@cheapest price...
Cheers :)
did some comparisons on small/large settings on the 8.1s. Mas-full yung midrange/mid-bass at mas may-kick pag large setting.. as opposed to having the sub do all the work from 90 Hz down (eto pala cut-off sa mga yamaha receivers). yun lang nga, di ko lang nilalaksan masyado para di ma-overwork yung speaker.. especially since hindi pa fully broken-in sila.
can't wait to buy more cable so I can bi-wire these things. :D
jeffster, set the yamaha's front setting to LARGE for you to get more bass in the mains -- let's make good use of those kevlar cones. ;) try to tweak the sub by changing freq cutoff or moving it to another location.
BTW I was wondering if the Wharfedales are magnetically shielded?
Only the 8C.
According to the manual... your fronts should be at least 7 mtrs apart.
this is the center channel? not the bookshelf ones? I'm just concerned about the magnetic radiation because I might be placing them near my TV, how far do they have to be btw?
ang layo nyan Sir :) baka 7 feet ;)
wow 7ft? hindi ganyan kalaki yung room ko :( paano na yung speakers ko :(
Cool, what does the manual say about being near TVs, monitors, perhaps there is something there about the minimum distance of the speakers to a TV?
i'm currently using yammy 440 and plan to buy 8.4. can my yammy drive the 8.4 at its maximum level. or better yet used 8.3 instead of 8.4. help pls.
SPECTRA confirmed that my yammy can drive the 8.4. is it true?
i'm currently using yammy 440 and plan to buy 8.4. can my yammy drive the 8.4 at its maximum level. or better yet used 8.3 instead of 8.4. help pls.
SPECTRA confirmed that my yammy can drive the 8.4. is it true?
mga kapatid!
naka 8.3, 8.1, and 8c ako na setup. ano ba pedeng bilhin for my rear center? balak ko sana e isang 8.1, kaso ala namang nabibiling isang 8.1 lang. palaging in pairs.
salamats.
was about to text you bro! i got nirv's AASWF03 sub.
grabe! how did the sub fit in? may i say, it's a beermatch! ;D
tnx sa mga tips mo bro, also sir levi and philander.
sir avphile, di ko na ata kaya ang gastos para sa isa pang 8c. maghahanap nalang ako dito ng kapareho ko ng sitwasyon. pati na rin yung wallmounts or speaker stand. hati kami. ehehehe.
I don't see why not. So many here use yammys with wharf diamonds and monitor audio.Quote
hi,
used to have a yammy 440 + 8.4 combo... IMHO, it can drive the wharf kaya lang nipis na ng tunog. kulang sa bass.
thanks,
htnoviceQuote
av__phile, specifically for 8.4? any idea? thx dude!
Some members favor the 8.3 over the 8.4 as the latter tends to deliver a more boomy bass courtesy of its dual woofer. I also prefer the 8.3.Quote
av_phile, which means tends more boomy sound coz ido own a sub(DQ12) 8.4 + DQ12= super boomy. better yet get 8.3 + DQ12.
will you still prefer 8.3 without the the help of sub. or you are saying because i do have a sub? just asking for my ref only. thx ulit sir.
av_phile/antukin, based on ur inputs way ahead to buy 8.3 now. :) thx a lot! ;)
av_phile/antukin, based on ur inputs way ahead to buy 8.3 now. :) thx a lot! ;)
av_phile/antukin, based on ur inputs way ahead to buy 8.3 now. :) thx a lot! ;)
sir rapeez,
OT: Nice meeting you sir.. musta na AE mo sir? galing ng speakers na to kasi ganda din tumunog sa yamaha 440.. may bass kahit nakaset sa 0 lahat ng speaker settings.
HTNovice.
mdsaint,
nice.. tnx. ano na mga na try mo sa onkyo mo? you still have it? pero paano naman yung tunog ng 8.3? dun lang kasi ko may budget. tska nga pala more into movies ako. I play lots of music too, pero not very particular on the details (of the sound)..
thanks,..
... any more suggestions?? all set na kasi ko to buy. even called up the store to prepare..hehe
mdsaint,
nice.. tnx. ano na mga na try mo sa onkyo mo? you still have it? pero paano naman yung tunog ng 8.3? dun lang kasi ko may budget. tska nga pala more into movies ako. I play lots of music too, pero not very particular on the details (of the sound)..
thanks,..
... any more suggestions?? all set na kasi ko to buy.
even called up the store to prepare..hehe
im planning to buy a nad 2-ch amp and pair it with my 8.4 for stereo set-up. is it a good combination? what do you think of its sound? will it be too boomy? any comments fellow pdvd...
Recently purchased lovan stands for my 8.1s. Sound dramatically improved. BAss was fuller and imaging was better. Dati kasi gamit ko stands for surrounds na medyo manipis.where can i look at these lovan stands for the 8.1?
Don't see any reason why the combi won't work. The warfedales are rated at 6ohms nominal so this might extract more current from the 8-ohm rated NAD which is a hi-current amp anyway.
parksq 1 makati bro for the stands.thanks for the info
Indridcold,
Pre kung pwede sand filled yun stand mo lagyan mo.
I auditioned yesterday the wharfdale 8.4 driven by nad 320bee at sights and sound. It has a very impressive sound quality. Your right bro, nad 320bee easily drives the 8.4even though it is only rated at 50watts per channel at 8ohms.
You can try the x40 line of yamaha. Go to park sq 1 makati dami stores don. As for speakers, I think the wharfs are the most practical and affordable.
Yup, as recommended by our fellow members. An entry level set up for HT, yammy or harman kardon are a good match for wharfedale speakers... just search for other threads to find out more about ht set up.i plan to get 8.1 for my fronts and rears... ok ba ito or do i need a higher model for the fronts like 8.2, 8.3 or 8.4? i'm also considering buying a sub like DQ12 or US Audio
If you have a sub ok na ang 8.1. Personally I think the 8.1s are better than the 8.2s. If you plan to use the gear for music din, I suggest you grab the 8.4s.thanks for the advice! :D So i'll just grab a pair of 8.1s plus a sub..... pero bakit pag gamitin ko for music 8.4 dapat ang kunin ko?
how much are the 8.1's now? I need to get a pair and a diamond center, am converting my 5.1 to 6.1.
Mga Bro, matagal tagal na rin di ako nakakalog dito. Magkano na ba ang 8.4 ngaun? Im planning to buy one or better yet settle to 2nd hand A1 condition units if anyone interested to sell.
Thanks! ;)
pero bakit pag gamitin ko for music 8.4 dapat ang kunin ko?
and also (OT na ito) kung 8.1, ano mas ok i-partner, dq12 or us audio na sub?
Yup, ok ang 8.4 sa music bacause of its 2 drivers u dont nid to have a sub to drive that 8.4 kase ganyan din ang gamit ko sa audio set up ko hehe...
Before, i use 8.1 and a dq-12 sa ht ko, satisfied naman ko sa combination nila.
Yup, ok ang 8.4 sa music bacause of its 2 drivers u dont nid to have a sub to drive that 8.4 kase ganyan din ang gamit ko sa audio set up ko hehe...
guys,
Balita ko meron na Diamond 9 series learned thru What hifi ang ganda ng design compare sa 8 series..
Guys,
Any owner of Pacific evolution 10,20, &30?? reviews and comment please.
Guys,(http://www.avland.co.uk/wharfedale/evo10/evo10.jpg)
Any owner of Pacific evolution 10,20, &30?? reviews and comment please.
have anyone here tried to bi-wire their 8.1s using a 14 and 16 guage wires? puresonic 14(gold) for the hf and audiopro 16 (silver) for the lf (the tindera in the store told me that is was only a 12 mas malaki daw mas mabba).
ive noticed kasi that although change indeed occured to the sound output, there are certain rock cds that i play that emits a very annoying twets.... masakit na nga sa tainga e. am i in the wrong path here?
what about tweaking the 8?
I think hans went to spectra today hehe 8)
Hans, I passed by park square, may imemeet lang hehe, saw you at spectra with kimpao i think. ok ba sa rock yung evo 10 sir?
mukhang sold na si hans sa wharfedale na to a.. congrats.. :D ;D
hans congrats sa bago mong toy sana mastress test na natin tsaka marami thank sa paghatid mo hehehe sana huli na nga yan pagpalit mo gwaping ganda ;D ;D ;D
kimpao bili ka na Evo 8 wag lang uli ako bigyan pagkakataon hehehehe thank din sa iyo kung dahil sa iyo napunta sa ibang kamay isang mahalagang gamit ni hans
price quote naman dyan mga dre for the evo series. ganda ng pics e.....
congrats sa mga may bagong laruan. ;D di naka-log in, sigurado mga puyat ;D ;D ;D ;D.
OT Pao malamang bukas nangangalumata si hans hindi naglog-in ngayon di naparamdam ;D ;D ;D cguro tulog pa hanggang ngayon hehehe ;D
pre mas maganda talaga ung mabigat at di gumagalaw ung speaker mas maganda rolling nung bass kaya hanap na ko nang marble sa raon and do our project :D ano kaya maganda kulay sana may mahanap akong Black marble ;D 10'X12' by 1inch ang kapal pwede na ba yon....... ;D ;D
pre pabigat lang at para di gaano magvibrate, don ko ituturnilyo ung speaker at spike footing ;D
Tanong lang po: which would be better...
8.1 and subwoofer or 8.4 and subwoofer? mararamdaman ba ang difference between 8.4 and 8.1 kung may subwoofer naman? for home theater use po ito.
thanks
evo 30 / b4 shootout!
(http://203.131.66.146:8080/pac2.jpg)
Kuya Hans, ganda talaga ng Evo 30. Bagay na bagay sa sala ko. napa-isip tuloy ako ngayon kung upgrade na ba kaagad ng HT speakers pero bili muna ako ng tube amp uli. ;D ;D ;D
IMHO, i'd say this is definitely a contender. Solid construction (as in solid), nice mids and highs, tight bass. What else can you ask for. Definitely, bang for the buck.
totally agree bro... great looks and sound :D biro mo tinalo pa ang MA S6 :o
btw, bro kimpao, thanks for being an excellent host...wag mo lang kalimutan yung order ng pila dun sa scott ha ;D ;D ;D
Ganda talaga nung bagong toy! :o Sayang dapat pala dinamihan ko pa yung gulaman ni hans para yung B4 ang nai-uwi hindi yung EVO. ;D ;D ;D
Dunforgiven,
Pre Evo 8 12+++, Evo 10 15,+++ ata kindly check out spectra sir..
Dunforgiven,
Pre Evo 8 12+++, Evo 10 15,+++ ata kindly check out spectra sir..
You guys should start a new thread on Wharfedale Evolution so as not to crowd out those discussing about the diamonds. What do you think?
I'm sure it will be merged again to this thread. Imagine kung lahat ng model ng speakers, receivers, etc will have their own thread. Dagdag trabaho lang sa mga moderator. Baka naman...
avphile,
Pre evo 8 and 10 - bookshelf
evo 20, 30 & 40 floorstanders naman
Guys,
Try to give Diamond 8.1 another listen now paired with a tube amp and wowow soundwise ibang iba pwede mo ilaban side by side sa much higher price speaker
dunforgiven,
sir building a HT ba o separate audio??
dunforgiven,
Syempre naman sir kung tight budget you can get 4 pcs 8.1 and center for sub pwede na DQ12 or US audio. tapos get HK AVR.. yan setup na yan HT and Audio ok na ok sir will rock your house 100% sure ako.
dunforgiven,
Pre kung may extra pa go for 8.3 than 8.4 pero minsan depend on your room baka kasi ma-over sa bass kung 8.4 tsaka may sub ka naman so 8.3 will be fine..
hmmmn pacific evo10 in piano black finish 8)
I think the thread should be renamed Wharfedale Speakers instead, rather than creating a new thread.
kaya ang sigaw na ngayon "PACIFIC EVO tayoooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
balimbing talaga. Ahehehehehe
slayer,
ano hinihintay, bili na! 8)
The Pacific Evo seems to be the "Flavor of the month" Dati yung MS.
The Pacific Evo seems to be the "Flavor of the month" Dati yung MS.
Sir av_phile1,
upgrade ka na rin ba? 8)
Nope. Like i said in one of my previous post, had i seen this model first last year, i would have gotten it instead of the MS. But having done so, I don't consider it an upgrade to go from MS Declaration to Wharfedale Evolution. I am just entertaining some bad thoughts of getting an ALTERNATE speaker set. ;D Maybe as a replacement, but not an upgrade. I have to be convinced first the evo sounds better.
sabagay kanya-kanyang preference yan ::) anyway, tuloy ang ligaya. Ahehehehehe
psssst, magkano evo ngayon? ::) ::) ::)
ST kimpao,
Buy ka na sir para dalawa na tayo....... nagkamali??? I don't thinks so. ;D 8)
Iceman,
Alam ko magugustuhan mo yun gulaman pre.. pssst pag next gulamanan....... este session pala eh advise kita..
Pinsan Skeeter,
yun price na mention is ST kimpao may discount pa yan sir..
John, & ST kimpao,
sana naman para di ako lonely... ;D ;D
Qman,
Malaysia...Uy pwede...
is the diamond 8 center magnetically shielded?
thnax.
Kuya Hans,
As I said ityempo k yung pagbili a couple of days before the holy week para pag-bakasyon may pinagkaka-abalahan ako. Mwehehehehehehe. EVO 8 moi guwapito talaga yung looks para sa bookshelf, ganda pa tumunog.
Kimpao, & John,hans, since one wek old na yung evo30 pwede ikabit sa hafler yan ;D ;D ;D
Kahit ako sir still amazed with my Pacific EVo30.. out of the box detail high & mid you'll love tapos bass just right.. 8)
hans, since one wek old na yung evo30 pwede ikabit sa hafler yan ;D ;D ;D
Hans,
Oo ngi naman. Baka hindi pa talaga natin naririnig potential niyan.
Malay mo lalo ka ma-impress 'pag kinabit sa hafler. ;D
kaya ang sigaw naminHAFLER + WHARFEDALE ;D ;DHAFLER + WHARFEDALE ;D ;DHAFLER + WHARFEDALE ;D ;DHAFLER + WHARFEDALE ;D ;DHAFLER + WHARFEDALE ;D ;D[/font]
I auditioned the evo10's with an all NAD setup, unfortunately i wasn't impressed, it sounded ok at low volumes but once we turned it up, parang sumisigaw, might have been because its not broken in or hindi lang talaga match ::)
kimpao, teh rosewood evo8 is still there, have u tried it with the scott?
we were able to try hans' evo 30 with the scott, tad difference on mids and highs compared with the b4, bass, it was understandable that the b4 excelled in this category since the evo30's were not broken-in yet. :)
galing talaga ni ST president a proud owner of B4 kaya si hans parang nagsisisi tuloy :P wag ganyan hinay hinay lang baka mapaiyak na yon ;D ;D ;D
peace tayo bro ha ;D ;D ;D ;D mag gulaman na lang tayo masarap magkwetuhan pag may kaharap na gulaman :o ;D ;D
kayo talaga! ;D di pa broken in yung evo 30 panay na ang pintas. ahahahhahahaa! ;D ;D IMHO, di pa broken-in yung evo 30 kaya ala pa gaano bass.
YES.
wanderlust,
Magnetically shielded po diamond center
slayer,
Pre wasn't able to try with my HK pero sa spectra meron naman HK and Pacific Evo dun pwede mo audition sir..
Guys,
I was at spectra yesterday to help a friend... diamond 8.3 yun buy nya.. ganda pala yun sa Hafler ko.. detail and bass you'll love kahit wlang sub..
8.3 owner talaga bang may plint yun??
where can I audition the 8.3 ..
how do they sound ? bright laid back etc..
price ?
thanks
where can I audition the 8.3 ..
how do they sound ? bright laid back etc..
price ?
thanks
Arch audio...they dont carry the brand...anyone knows the number ng Spectra ?
yup those are diamond9s all right 8)
akyat & Slayer,
Made some adjustment again sa positioning notice nawala yun pacific evo 30 kooooo... :o :o
akyat & Slayer,
Made some adjustment again sa positioning notice nawala yun pacific evo 30 kooooo... :o :o
Kasya kaya under 50k ang isang AVR330 at isang set ng Pacific Evo 30? :o
bravoexo,san kaya mag aaudition e binili mo na yong kaisa isang stock nang Pacific evo....... ;D ;D ;D pwede ba sa inyo ;)
Better audition the combo to make sure.. :)
hi, anybody know kung magkano na ngayon yung Diamond 8.4 ? :)
alam ko:
8.4 = 8400
8.3 = 6000
ambasador mura, pede pa 0%. kaya lang not very helpful/accomodating minsan. :)
Slayer,
musta pala 8.3 mo sir?? broken in na.. yun Pacific Evo 30 still have long hour to log pa.. hehehe O0 O0
Slayer,
Experiment with some toe in and forward/back movement and bass and high/mid will improve kahit 1 cm lang hehehehe.
Hi guys, sale daw yung Marantz SR 4300, P13,995 daw ang price. I would like to ask you wharf owners na maganda bang i-pair ang Wharf speakers to the said AVR?
Thanks.
AVERAGE. I'm using this pair. Get "better" speakers.
Kimosabe,
Kulitin mo na yan for best deal iba ang HK/wharf combo.. >:D >:D
I texted him yesterday ngayon lang nag-reply, nainip na tuloy ako bumili na lang ako sa Architectural Audio kahapon ng HK 130 for P18,900. Speaker na lang proproblemahin ko, ipon ulit ;D ;D ;D
kimosabe,
Pre iba talaga HK from audio to ht panalo yan.. O0 kung wharf type mo Hk talaga match nya..
Actually, nung time na tinetest namin sa Archi Audio yung HK 130 nakapair sya sa AE Evo 3 na speaker yata yun. Mas maganda parang yun na gusto ko kaya lang medyo hindi kaya ng budget.
So esep esep muna ako kung tiis tiis muna sa current speaker ko hanggang maka ipon ng pambili ng Evo3. Problema lang pag nainip ako baka wharfedale ang mabili ko. ???
Bought my HK3550 and Wharfs last year...I'm still very satisfied...lalong gumaganda tunog (with the Wharfs fully broken in) ;) -- because I stopped reading this forum after ;D
LTcool,
Ok naman still break in stage pa tayo.. pero still tweaking my room kalilipat ko lang kasi and all wood yun room hayyyy hirap..
Pero even not yet broken eh promising na talaga sya yun overall balance ang performance even at high volume.. ;D ;D
Master slayer,
sir lumapit ng konti sa office mo... hehehe pre kailan ba kami makakagulo sa mansion mo?? O0
Slayer,
Yes balita ko nga rin.. was thinking dapat eh dinadala ko Evo30 ko para ma-break in sa session hehehhee kaso lang heavy weight ito sa size..
Aba! Puwede ba tumambay pag lunch break? Ahehehhee... Sana nga may mansion ako para may dedicated a/v room para sa Diamond 8.3 ko (para di OT). ;D ;D ;D
Balita ko paglabas daw ng amp na pinapagawa ni jetok session uli. ;D
slayer,
balita ko rin kay kimpao yan eh pero sana in the next session hans can bring the evo30 para naman marinig ko. sa picture ko lang nakita evo30 nung session kina kimpao eh ang ganda. O0 O0
Jetok,
Kelan labas ng amp? Ako rin curious sa evo30 si master hans... gusto ko siya matest with HK. ;D
Hmmmmm..... Interesting ::) ::) Ano kaya ang balak nito tubeamp o evo30? ::) ::) Sa bagay, either way panalo siya.
Pre, EVO30 na!!! :o :o >:D >:D
Slayer,
Tube amp and EVO30na lang!! >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D
Jetok,
Kelan labas ng amp? Ako rin curious sa evo30 si master hans... gusto ko siya matest with HK. ;D
Guys,
I read that you can tweak the Diamond 8s by installing crossovers on them.
Can someone tell me where to go to get that done?
thanks
Guys,
I read that you can tweak the Diamond 8s by installing crossovers on them.
Can someone tell me where to go to get that done?
thanks
guys,
Have anyone try hooking your Diamond series with Tube amp?? pre ganda!! >:D >:D >:D tried it with ST DON kimpao when we are audition Pacific Evo at Spectra curious lang kami so we ask Jim (spectra ) to paired it with 8.3 tapos 8.1 naman.. result was WOW.. high and mid are prominent nagkatinginan kami ni Kimpao hehehehe.. Try nyo!! >:D >:D
guys,
Have anyone try hooking your Diamond series with Tube amp?? pre ganda!! >:D >:D >:D tried it with ST DON kimpao when we are audition Pacific Evo at Spectra curious lang kami so we ask Jim (spectra ) to paired it with 8.3 tapos 8.1 naman.. result was WOW.. high and mid are prominent nagkatinginan kami ni Kimpao hehehehe.. Try nyo!! >:D >:D
ok ba sa 8.3? kaso push pull? wala ba pwede magdala bukas?
ok ba sa 8.3? kaso push pull? wala ba pwede magdala bukas?
sigurado ba kayo na maganda yung 8.3 sa tubes? bibili ako hehehe O0 OT kita kami ni slayer mamaya...dala ko na yung epektus hehe
sigurado yan sir! ewan ko nalang kung di mapakanta ng mono-blocks mo yan, sir. 8.4 ba. Ahehehehehhhe >:D >:D
sigurado ba kayo na maganda yung 8.3 sa tubes? bibili ako hehehe O0 OT kita kami ni slayer mamaya...dala ko na yung epektus hehe
sigurado ba kayo na maganda yung 8.3 sa tubes? bibili ako hehehe O0 OT kita kami ni slayer mamaya...dala ko na yung epektus hehe
Iceman,
PUnk kid,
Sir mukhang magandang combo ito Diamond 8.3 + AMX push pull!! sa totoo lang you'll be SURPRISE with the 8.3 hehehehehe >:D >:D
Ala tayo niyan sir pero kung makakuha ka sir pa-k*%@* ahehehehehehe ;D ;D ;D
pwede....OT: me xlo burn in cd ka kimpao?
buti na lang wala kong 8.3, kundi mapapabili mo ko ng AMX push pull nyan >:D >:D
guys,
after that we paired it with diamond 8.1. we notice the What hifi best buy 2001 speaker shines panalo talaga.. for detail and resolution it will amaze even the most sceptical listener.. :o :o :o
Try nyo!! 8.1 owners.. >:D >:D
hmmnn isip isip
Akala ko Pacific Evo 10 ang kukunin mo? ;D ;D ;D
Akala ko Pacific Evo 10 ang kukunin mo? ;D ;D ;D
Kimpao,
pre napa-isip ako 4 years!! ::) ::)
Kimpao,
pre napa-isip ako 4 years!! ::) ::)
John,
roughly 8k cguro... ::) ::) 8.3 is 6,500 na..
Just bought 8.3 last saturday P7,900 na ang price matatawaran mo hanggang P7.4K. Price increase na naman ??? ??? ??? >:( >:( >:(
Pero kahit na nagmahal ng kaonti happy naman ako.... gandang tumunog ;D ;D ;D
Saan ka nakabili? Medyo napamahal ka.
How about in Sound Diemnsion?
Sa Parksqure ba yun? Beside Odyssey? if dun nga may nakadisplay dun price is P6,900.
7900? its impossible the srp is just only 7500
Listening Room sa Megamall - 7,500
Pero nagtanong din ako sa Spectra - 7,900 and Ambassador Shang - 7,900 matatawaran hanggang 7,400. Sabi nung taga spectra nahuli daw ako ng pagbili kasi last month daw eh P6,900 ang price nila nakasale daw.
Alam ko nga eh w/in 6 - 7 thousand ang price kaya lang tinamad na akong maghanap kasi parepareho rin ang sinasabi nilang price.
Yes. Passed there yesterday and the price is still 6.9K, which I think pwede pa tumawad.
On the day I finally bought my HK and Wharf 8.4s... I visited Robinsons' Galleria, Podium, Megamall, Shangrila, and eventually went to Parksquare 1 for the buy. Yes, very tiring indeed. Not to mention that 8.4s weighed a ton each... the next day, my arms hurt like hell.
Kimosabe,
Congrats!! 8.3.. break in agad.. gaganda pa lalo...
Thanks, hindi ko masyado mabreak in every weekend ko lang nagagamit ayaw ni misis eh manonood daw kasi sya ng Marina hehehe
Sub naman proproblemahin ko then surround then dedicated cd player then.... hayyy wala bang katapusan ito ;D ;D ;D
j_albert22
Di daw Evo 10, pre. Ayaw na raw ni john5479 niyan kaya 8.1 or 8.3 nalang daw. Sabi ni sir isak, 4 years daw bago ma break-in ang pacific evo. Bwahahahahahaha :D :D :D
kuya hans,
joke only!!! ;D ;D ;D Peace tayoooooooooo!!!!!!!!
Aha! may binabalak kang masama pre ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
di naman, baka kako merong me balak ipaampn ang 8.3 nila e ako na ang aako hehe ;D
Si [slayer] balak ata ipaampon yung 8.3 >:D >:D >:D
di naman, baka kako merong me balak ipaampon ang 8.3 nila e ako na ang aako hehe ;D
Oi! Pano ako nasali sa usapan! Ahehehee... love ko 'to! ;D
Not today siguro... in due time. ;) Price increase narin pala Wharfs ngayon... :o
sama ka sa session..... cgurado mapapaampon mo na yan ke john ;D
Sir,
Baka lalo kong maging mahal yung 8.3 ko pag na hook ito sa push-pull. ;D
SARS is all around >:D
question lang po regarding 8.3. when i have available time, i try to tweak my setup. first naka small lahat ng speakers ko. then i tried large for the fronts. mas maganda ang effect. but when i tried playing StarshipTroopers in the scene na 1st time magpaandar ng carrier si denise richards, naging boomy na sya. then i tried covering the port of my sub, nabawasan. when i set the fronts to small, nawala yung boominess, kaso nga lang, patay naman yung ibang low freq. ang question ko e, will it be safe to cover the ports of the 8.3? o baka masira ang 8.3 pagcovered ang port nya?
btw, naka -20db na ang LFE control of the yammy440. wala ring xover controls ang sub.
salamats
akala nga siguro ng family and neighbors ko e nababaliw na ko dahil paulit ulit ang mga scenes sa testing na ginagawa ko. siguro nga baliw nako sa hobby na to. ehehehe.
antukin,
Sir start lang yan... HT ba... wait till you get to audio.. wawawaw.. :'( :'(
wanderlust,
Funny sir.. when we just played music without the DAC.. mas natural ang music one track we thought somebody snap his fingers..and knock yun pala eh yun CD lang pala.. btw next session present ulit EVO30 sa pushpull showdown.. request ni Sir Jetok..
If thats the cae I will bring my monoblocks....sino tutulong magbuhat? hehehe
its probable because overkill na yong pagsasala, bro mo from hk to the monarchy tapos preamp, then tube amp......
oo, dapat andon Evo mo uli para my babantayan ka na naman, hehehe, joke lang. kidding aside, it would be a better gauge for comparison since we heard it na during the last session, how it fairs now with push and pull amps..... or better termed, how the push and pull fairs using the same set of speakers.
hehehe.... another level of SARS infection is what you most probably mean sir kimpao....
on the other hand, at least i have enough room/experience to make a better judgement before i bite the dust.....
peace tayo...
wala pa kasi kaming alam sa tube kaya hanggang dinig lang muna hehehe
samahan mo na ng konting lecture ;D >:D
samahan mo na ng konting lecture
Punk_kid,
OT...SenyoR technical ba??? naku problema more of SOUND quality kami than spec sir...hehehehhe joke onli...
nakowwwwwwww simula na yan hehehehe nagsasama ka pa kay kimpao level 10 na ans SARS nyan
peace tayo kim ha :P :P
SenyoR kimpao,
Baka you can bring your B4??? para naman meron ka partner yun EVO30 para di tayo OT...
nakowwwwwwww simula na yan hehehehe nagsasama ka pa kay kimpao level 10 na ans SARS nyan
J_albert,
Pre was at Kimpao house yesterday... mukhang wag na dalhin yun B4... hehehhe mapapahiya yun speaker ko ;D ;D
Kabit mo na Hans sa hafler at iwan mo ng 2 weeks... at 12 o'clock volume setting. Ahehehehe... >:D
Kabit mo na Hans sa hafler at iwan mo ng 2 weeks... at 12 o'clock volume setting. Ahehehehe... >:D
Preng Bong,
Kevlar naman yung Evo30! Di nga tatablan ng bala yan!! BREAK-IN NA!! ;D >:D
ot..pre mixed-up yung name mo.. si henry si hans.. si bong si j_albert22.. heheehe ;D ;)
Sir,
Kay master j_albert22 naka address talaga yung post ko... pinariringgan namin si master Hans.
OT, gusto ko lang malaman konti sa tube amp ehehehe pero la pa kong balak bumili nyan
Slayer & J_albert,
Magsitigil kayooooooooooo!!!.... abangan..... at maghanda....sa session... at
wla na tayong food for lunch hehehehe..
HK5500 gusto mo? :D
kaya magbigay ng kalansing sa soft-dome tweeter ng diamond ang HK? sir iceman, kasya kaya sa 50k budget kung mag-diamond speakers and entry level player? kasama na pala sa budget yung sub.
sir kulang pa ng dvd player :D
Lets see:
Diamond
8.3 - 6,800
8.1 - 4,200
cntr- 4,800
Sub
Nirv - 6,500
HK - 27,800
he he he pwede :D
si Slayer makaka sagot kung kakalansing Wharfes sa HK... ;D
Lets see:
Diamond
8.3 - 6,800
8.1 - 4,200
cntr- 4,800
Sub
Nirv - 6,500
HK - 27,800
he he he pwede :D
si Slayer makaka sagot kung kakalansing Wharfes sa HK... ;D
teka Sir kayo ng Sir parang antanda ko na ah!
(huwag din Ma'am ha) :D
sir akyat mas ok sa spectra eastwood hindi magulo at ideal yung space dahil pahaba. :)
ty sa mga suggestions..... yoko pa naman mapahiya........salamas!
spectra might be a good place to audition right? hirap pag audition time na, nagbabago palagi ang plano..... ang budget tumataas!! .....at ang brand ng gears nagiiba rin depende sa husay ng audition..... hopefully pag audition namin maganda ang pagka-setup.
Master,
Welcome kayo sa bahay... home audition my 2550/8.3 and dq-12 combo. ;D
sir akyat mas ok sa spectra eastwood hindi magulo at ideal yung space dahil pahaba. :)ang alam ko iba ang name nila dun
ang alam ko iba ang name nila dun
i think the name of the store is AUDIO EXCELLANCE
Kimpao,
Pre ok ba pacific Evo8?? hehehehe bili na!!
confirmed sir! evo 8 is a major contender.... ganda pa ng looks, sana magkaroon ng piano black.
nakupo.... makakabili na ko ng 2nd hand B4 nyan.... isip ulet.gusto mo sir bili ka ng evo 8 ako mismo magva-varnish i oven bake pa natin para mas makintab. ano gusto mo du-pont o sikkens ang top coat? Ahehehehehe >:D >:D
gusto mo sir bili ka ng evo 8 ako mismo magva-varnish i oven bake pa natin para mas makintab. ano gusto mo du-pont o sikkens ang top coat? Ahehehehehe >:D >:D
Akyat & Kimpao,
So if your scouting for bookshelf ito kasama na sa list nyo?? hehehehe
magandang proposition yan...magkano charge mo? hehehe ;D
Akyat & Kimpao,
So if your scouting for bookshelf ito kasama na sa list nyo?? hehehehe
yup.... yan pinakapogi sa 12k price range eh.... nasa listahan ko: evo8, evo1, es14.... tentative lang naman hindi pa seryosong bibili dahil di pa ko nakakaluwag sa finances.
isang sansui amp at accuphase amp lang yan! Yakang yaka mo yan sir!
evo10 kaya ok??? sige pagiisipan ko yang evo8 8)
IMHO, the 8 sounds sweeter than the 10. Just me, sir. 8)
Senyor Kimpao,
Kung ganun di EVo8 na....
OT lang.
Master, ano sabi nung friend mo tungkol dun sa passive attenuator niya?
Kimpao,
text you update sir..
SenoR Kimpao,
OT..Musta pala passive preamp?? ok ba gusto mo active?? >:D >:D
Yan ang hirap sir pag naka-rinig na ng active tapos tube pa! :'( :'( :'( pero on the other hand Pwede na rin! ;D
guys,
Learn from Jim spectra meron daw Pacific Evo30 available... will check it out Saturday.. >:D >:D
hi guys,
currently canvassing prices for my first ever HT ...
wondering how much a new pair of wharfedale evo 10 costs in Manila ... ( or an EVO8 for that matter )
here in HK , i saw a pair going for 5440 HKD or roughly 40K pesos
thanks.
hmmmmmm. ................... naghahanap nang karamay hehehehe >:D ....................pis tayo ;D
Sir Evo8 would be around P12k while Evo10 is P15k to P16k..
hello H&F ...... ( bodybuilder ka rin ba ??? :) )
pasensiya ka na at baguhan lang ako pero yung presyo na yan eh isang pares ?? at brand-new ??
if both your answers are yes ... where can I go to get a pair ???
tsaka isa pa pala .... sa naguumpisa , ano ba dapat unahin ? yung receiver or speakers ? or dapat receiver and at least the front speakers
salamat
Di naman hehehehe... pero iba na nauna masarap... >:D
thanks - pero may nagpapatanong lang :)
sinabi mo sir!
buti na lng my gamot pa, yon nga lang pamsamantala lang, at meron ako yan ngayon. hehehe. kaya SARS lumayo layo k muna.
sinabi mo sir!
buti na lng my gamot pa, yon nga lang pamsamantala lang, at meron ako yan ngayon. hehehe. kaya SARS lumayo layo k muna.
Master Hans, kamusta EVO30 broken-in na ba? :D
chatstix,
Sir usually they indicate it at the back of the speaker.. i think diamond series available here are China made..
Go ang 8.3 ko... wag lang sa naotorious na Hafler na yan!! Ahahahaha... ;D
Sir SARS lalapit yan after you bring your speaker sa push pull shootout.. >:D >:D
sir wanderlust, heto na kami ng SARS! Ahehehehehe ;D ;D >:D >:D Sir musta nga pala bago mong toy?
Go ang 8.3 ko...
Sir Jojo,
Nung nag email ako sa Wharfedale... sabi nila dapat daw Kiln dried sand lang daw... ahehehee... san kaya meron nun?! Tsaka malaki daw difference. :o :o
Ang alam ko lang Kiln dried eh lumber eh?!? Meron pala Kiln dried na sand ???.
Hanap kita, madami ako kilala hardware stores. ;) Konti lang naman kailangan diba?
Punk_kid,
bka naman sawdust yun sinasabi mo? hehehe
slayer,
tanong muna tayo, malay mo meron talaga nun kiln dried na sand.
para tipid, pag nagpunta ka sa boracay eh maguwi ka na ng sand. ;D
ok na alternatib yun sir ah, pure sand talaga kaya lang nakakahiya kung isang sako ang kukunin mong souvenir ;D ;D ;D
Don Slayer,
Correction Rotel 1072 + Contodo preamp + Amx EL34 STC PP yun nangboubug sa 8.3 mo... report mo na sa police pre.. >:D >:D >:D
sana sinama mo na din yun IC para kumpleto detalye sa report. ;D ;D ;D
Naka blotter na po yung mga gumahasa sa 8.3 ko! ahehehe... ;D
di kaya dun sa amp yung pagka airy ;D
di kaya dun sa amp yung pagka airy ;D
master slayer.. panalo yung 8.3 mo.. ang mahiwagang tanong pa din e.. alin ba ang nagpaganda talaga... yung amx amp ni masters jetok and hans.. or yung cdp ni ST Paldo Kimpao? ;D :D
pre, ang masama niyan eh kung parehong amp at cdp. ;D ;D
Guys,
Galing ng 8.3 for the performance and sound.. best buy talaga!!
Guys,
Grabe di pa rin nahuli kung ano nagdala??? syempre yun CONTODO preamp hehehehe >:D >:D
Guys,
Grabe di pa rin nahuli kung ano nagdala??? syempre yun CONTODO preamp hehehehe >:D >:D
Gusto sana niyan kahi balita ko mahal na raw... :-[
Dear Sir,
You need to remove the rubber bung at the rear of the loudspeaker. You must use 'Kiln-dired' sand and no other sort.
We find here that filling the chambers about half-full produces the best mix of dynamics. Weigh out each side carefully, to ensure both get equal volumes of sand.
Best Regards
David Patching
Marketing
wanderlust,
Mas nagustuhan ko yung Kimber ni boss akyat... mas airy kesa dun sa belden.... pero panalo parin yung belden. Hooked nga pala ito sa 8.3 para hindi OT. ;D
I wouldn't swap my 8.3 to an 8.4. The 8.4 is too boomy for me... kung yung 8.3 boomy na lalo na yung 8.4. You really need a big space from the backwall pag naka 8.4 ka.
I wouldn't swap my 8.3 to an 8.4. The 8.4 is too boomy for me... kung yung 8.3 boomy na lalo na yung 8.4. You really need a big space from the backwall pag naka 8.4 ka.
e di kung marami kang open space ang ganda ng tunog nito.... >:D
who has an 8.4 try natin sa tube?? >:D >:D >:D
hanggang ngayon ba pinagtatalunan pa rin kung sino ang nagdala, eto listahan ng mga nagdala!
slayer - Wharfedale Diamond 8.3 (para di OT)
Hans and France - ConTodo PP el-34 amp, ConTodo Preamp
isak - diy belden speaker wires (langya bobby! aminin mo na! Audionote yung dala mo! ;D ), tubes
kimpao - rcd-1072, silver ic
;D ;D ;D
Senyor Kimpao,
kindly add..
Jetoks - AMX Contodo EL34 STC PP amp..
Upgrade is Inevitable! ;D >:D ;D
Upgrade is Inevitable!
Iceman,
I started with Wharfedale Diamond and end up using Wharfedale din... hehehe love its soft dome tweeter and yellow kevlar woofer.. with proper matching ( tube or SS amp) you'll have long hour of sweet, pure, harmonious and inviting sound.. easy on the ear talaga rock or jazz panalo..
I quote my wife kidding me "Wharfedale babalik ka rin pala dyan eh sana di muna benta dati sus"..
Gandang question yan Boy Paldo Iceman90.
so may hahanapin pa?
true - pero laki ng price difference, unless sinasabi mo na pareho lang tunog
devil's advocate lang po - huwag mapikon, para makapagdesisyon na agad si slayer ;D
para sa iyo talaga yung tanong pre, huwag mo na pigilin - lalagnatin ka nyan ;D
so may hahanapin pa?
true - pero laki ng price difference, unless sinasabi mo na pareho lang tunog
devil's advocate lang po - huwag mapikon, para makapagdesisyon na agad si slayer ;D
para sa iyo talaga yung tanong pre, huwag mo na pigilin - lalagnatin ka nyan ;D
si slayer[/i] ;D
para sa iyo talaga yung tanong pre, huwag mo na pigilin - lalagnatin ka nyan ;D
Oo sir! Mahirap pigilan ang SARS! >:D ;D
my caveat with the diamonds before is they can get muddy at times, pero i haven't tried the diamonds with tube amps of adequate power. I tried the 8.1 with an 8 watt single ended el34 and it sounded thin. That's why i'm curios on how the 8.3 sounds with a push pull tube amp...i know bass will be there but i want to see if the mids are much better ;)
hehehe e di dapat pa piano finish na natin yang 8.3 para mukhang mahal hehehe >:D
John,
pwede din sir... btw 8.3 was tested with round up tracks.. and Panalo!!! >:D >:D walang distortion even at HIGH/LOUD VOLUME.
John,
pwede din sir... btw 8.3 was tested with round up tracks.. and Panalo!!! >:D >:D walang distortion even at high/loud volume.
Senyor ST-2 Slayer,
Your officially a member of the Stress test group.. hehehhee Congrats >:D >:D
Ka member mo..
ST president Kimpao MA B4
ST Vice Sebman MA B4
ST Secretary Slayer Diamond 8.3
hahahahahahaha fish sa inyo lahat... hehehehe ;D ;D ;D
Senyor ST-2 Slayer,
Your officially a member of the Stress test group.. hehehhee Congrats >:D >:D
Ka member mo..
ST president Kimpao MA B4
ST Vice Sebman MA B4
ST Secretary Slayer Diamond 8.3
hahahahahahaha fish sa inyo lahat... hehehehe ;D ;D ;D
The setup Contodo preamp + Rotel 1072 + Contodo EL34 STC PP amp + Wharf 8.3 = >:D >:D >:D ;D ;D ;D the 8.3 even not broken in provided a balance performance, with nice airy high and mid, with right placement the 8.3 disappeared :) :) you'll never think that its budget speaker.. :) :)
Senyor ST-2 Slayer,
Your officially a member of the Stress test group.. hehehhee Congrats >:D >:D
Ka member mo..
ST president Kimpao MA B4
ST Vice Sebman MA B4
ST Secretary Slayer Diamond 8.3
hahahahahahaha fish sa inyo lahat... hehehehe ;D ;D ;D
slayer: tried it at 4 ohms, it sounded thin.
ikaw kailan ka sasama? bi-amp natin ng 2 st-70 ang evo30 para maging director ka >:D
Master, break-in pa natin yang evo30 mo. Willing ako. Ahehehehehehe ;D
Master, break-in pa natin yang evo30 mo. Willing ako. Ahehehehehehe ;D
ikaw talaga, basta break-in willing ka palagi! ;D >:D :P
Sir oo ba minsan lang ito ST70 monoblock config... go ako dyan.. EVO30.. >:D
di pwede mono st70 ko eh kaya bi-amp tayo ;)
... oh kimpao game daw! ano sa iyo? mids&highs o bass? di ko pa kabisado amp ko eh >:D
di pwede mono st70 ko eh kaya bi-amp tayo ;)
... oh kimpao game daw! ano sa iyo? mids&highs o bass? di ko pa kabisado amp ko eh >:D
sir, no pun intended but i think your the living epitome of living under the influence of SARS! ;D >:D
nakakahawa pa! :o
Saan ang venue ng ST nato?Sir dalhin mo uli yung 8.3 Mwehehehehehehe!!!!!! >:D >:D
Sir may triode switch ba yung sa iyo? Sayang sir, yung mono switch ko kasi working. Ganda sana kung monoblock! :D Sir sa iyo mids and highs kung may triode switch yung sa iyo, bass yung sa akin.
Bi-amping na? Dapat may active tube crossover! ;D ;D ;D
San
Masta JojoD,
ok yan... pero san muna venue??
meron na naman tayong prayer meeting mga bros ;D
saan gaganapin?
meron na naman tayong prayer meeting mga bros ;D
saan gaganapin?
Sasakit na naman balakang natin pagbuhat ng precious! hehehehe
Masta JojoD,
Light lang yun precious ni Senor Kimpao pero yun Precious ko mabigat Evo30hehehhe
Masta JojoD,
Light lang yun precious ni Senor Kimpao pero yun Precious ko mabigat Evo30hehehhe
Sasakit na naman balakang natin pagbuhat ng precious! hehehehe
Mga sir baka pwede nating isabay yung shootout ng 1072 vs. usher cdp(na-tweak na raw yung usher?).Mwehehehehehehehe >:D >:D ^-^
Pag puwede ako dalin ko yung 971. >:D
Yun mga pupunta sa pending na shootout kailangan malakas ang katawan dahil mabigat yun mga precious.... pupunta kaya si Jet? ;D
kaya ako - dadating na lang pag naka set-up na >:D naka buhat na ako ng evo30 ni Hans eh ;D
Yun mga pupunta sa pending na shootout kailangan malakas ang katawan dahil mabigat yun mga precious.... pupunta kaya si Jet? ;D
kaya ako - dadating na lang pag naka set-up na >:D naka buhat na ako ng evo30 ni Hans eh ;D
sa 24 ba yan? sama ko jan.....heavyweight yung shootout eh. O0 O0 O0
mga Sars, este sirs pala, ;D
pwede ba ko sama ? san gaganapin? ;D
Kailangan mo muna uminom ng madamig vitamins para di ka mahawa. ;D ;D ;D
Di ako mahahawa, manghahawa lang. >:D >:D ;D ;D ;D
Mga sirs, di po shootout ng st70 ang gagawin, bi-amp using 2 st70s' ang magaganap! "MALUFET" yung st70 ni fafa iceman, fully "rivoed" yan! :o ;D ;D
Di ako mahahawa, manghahawa lang. >:D >:D ;D ;D ;D
Mga sirs, di po shootout ng st70 ang gagawin, bi-amp using 2 st70s' ang magaganap! "MALUFET" yung st70 ni fafa iceman, fully "rivoed" yan! :o ;D ;D
Di ako mahahawa, manghahawa lang. >:D >:D ;D ;D ;D
Mga sirs, di po shootout ng st70 ang gagawin, bi-amp using 2 st70s' ang magaganap! "MALUFET" yung st70 ni fafa iceman, fully "rivoed" yan! :o ;D ;D
Di ako mahahawa, manghahawa lang. >:D >:D ;D ;D ;D
Mga sirs, di po shootout ng st70 ang gagawin, bi-amp using 2 st70s' ang magaganap! "MALUFET" yung st70 ni fafa iceman, fully "rivoed" yan! :o ;D ;D
mga Sars, este sirs pala, ;D
pwede ba ko sama ? san gaganapin? ;D
my kilala akong my planong kumuha ng 8.3 within the week, abagan susunod na kabanata. >:D :o
Sino kaya ito... sigurado kasama ito nung ST ng 8.3 ko. Ahehehehehe... >:D
Outbreak na ang SARS sa pinoydvd! ;D ;D ;DDati pa may outbreak sir!!!! ;D ;D Lalo na ngayon!!!! Yung isa bibili kaagad ng 8.3 (para di OT).
takbo!!!! :P
yan ang nagagwa ng panay shoot out hihihi
kaya tuloy tuloy ang outbreak ng SARS dito sa pdvd >:D
oy andito ka pala sir punk_kid. musta? ::)
d OT to alam nyo kung bakit...... tan tataran!!!!!! >:D
Dati pa may outbreak sir!!!! ;D ;D Lalo na ngayon!!!! Yung isa bibili kaagad ng 8.3 (para di OT).
Punk_kid,
Malupet talaga yun batang ito wharf 8.3 + Tono preamp agad.. Congrats sa kanya!!! ;D ;D
YUn naka Lafayette Congrats din ha!!.. ;D ;D ;D
BTW meron exhibit Spectra sa Park square 1 July 16 to 28, 2004 ata.. baka makadiscount tayooo.. hehehehe. >:D >:D
ay lalo na ako, pakungrats kongrats sa mga boy paldo dito, hayyy kaingit kayo! Malufetshe SARS nyo!
punk,
tele...... bisyon yon kanya! sarap nga daw tumunog e, kakahigop sa lambing! laking imprvemnt from sylva ............ nya! mag tele ka na din kasi boy!
ala pa tayong tube preamp pre >:D
ala pa tayong tube preamp pre >:D
Tono preamp gusto mo?
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madali ako kausap ;D
;D >:D ;D >:D ;D >:D
Senyor Iceman,
Tuloy sa Sat?? meron na tayo venue kaso baka yun ST70 mo lang present hehehe wala ata tsikot si ST kimpao.. :)
Tono preamp gusto mo?
madali ako kausap ;D
akyat tayo? ;D sure!
tsismis to pre, sino ba yung kid na yun? ;D
oo nga, eh! mukhang kidlat din nung tinamaan ng SARS!!!! ;D ;D ;D
wanderlust,
Pacific Evolution series na sabihin mo kay KID para naman meron akong kasama.. >:D >:D
ahihihi, d pa kami nakaka-alis ni kid_lat!
congrats kung sino man yung kid na yan... panalo yang 8.3... now tube amp na lang kulang mo... ;D :D para gumaling ang sars ng konti... ^-^ O0
Guys,
Mukhang sold na 8.3 ah.. Congrats.. ;D KID_lat >:D >:D ::)
Ayus yan ah, puro blind item! ;D ;D
Pre kilala natin yan.. palaging makasama parang dynamic duo, Batman & Robin, Starsky & Hutch,.....Superman & Wonderwoman?? ::) ::)
Pre, sino dun sa dala si Wonderwoman? ;D ;D
Pre kilala natin yan.. palaging makasama parang dynamic duo, Batman & Robin, Starsky & Hutch,.....Superman & Wonderwoman?? ::) ::)
Pre, sino dun sa dala si Wonderwoman? ;D ;D
Pre kilala natin yan.. palaging makasama parang dynamic duo, Batman & Robin, Starsky & Hutch,.....Superman & Wonderwoman?? ::) ::)
Pre, sino dun sa dala si Wonderwoman? ;D ;D
mga senores, meron ba sa inyong naka Onkyo-Wharfe diamond combi...review naman, thanks! ;D
meron din tayong tito, vic and joey ;D
Slayer,
Naku po... 4 years nga pala eh ilan hours palang.. >:D >:D ;D
Master, sgurado ako naka anim na oras yan kagabi kaya KID_lat may 35,034 hours ka pang bubunuin. ;D ;D KID_lat fish tayoooooo!!!! Congrats sir! Tube Amp ka na, tutal may tube preamp na eh! Lubuslubusin mo na! >:D
Ahahahahaha!!!! Pag na break-in na yan nasa diamond 12 na yung series. ;D ;D ;D
Master, sgurado ako naka anim na oras yan kagabi kaya KID_lat may 35,034 hours ka pang bubunuin. ;D ;D KID_lat fish tayoooooo!!!! Congrats sir! Tube Amp ka na, tutal may tube preamp na eh! Lubuslubusin mo na! >:D
Ahahahahaha!!!! Pag na break-in na yan nasa diamond 12 na yung series. ;D ;D ;D
next project natin yan >:D >:D >:D
i even heARD OUT THAT WHARFDALE SPEAKERS ARE INDEED MADE IN ASIA RYT NOW AND NOT MADE OF KEVLAR ANYMORE...
SOME AUDIO STORES MAY SAY BUY DAI-1CHI INSTEAD; IVE HEARD IT MYSELF, SOUND QUALITY IS EXCELLENT.....
i even heARD OUT THAT WHARFDALE SPEAKERS ARE INDEED MADE IN ASIA RYT NOW AND NOT MADE OF KEVLAR ANYMORE...
IT IS LIKE TO BE COMPARED TO AS SYNTHETIC LEATHER SHOES.
SOME AUDIO STORES MAY SAY BUY DAI-1CHI INSTEAD; IVE HEARD IT MYSELF, SOUND QUALITY IS EXCELLENT.....
i even heARD OUT THAT WHARFDALE SPEAKERS ARE INDEED MADE IN ASIA RYT NOW AND NOT MADE OF KEVLAR ANYMORE...
IT IS LIKE TO BE COMPARED TO AS SYNTHETIC LEATHER SHOES.
SOME AUDIO STORES MAY SAY BUY DAI-1CHI INSTEAD; IVE HEARD IT MYSELF, SOUND QUALITY IS EXCELLENT.....
better post in the dai-1chi thread instead if you find the dai-1chi speakers better :)
i even heARD OUT THAT WHARFDALE SPEAKERS ARE INDEED MADE IN ASIA RYT NOW AND NOT MADE OF KEVLAR ANYMORE...
IT IS LIKE TO BE COMPARED TO AS SYNTHETIC LEATHER SHOES.
SOME AUDIO STORES MAY SAY BUY DAI-1CHI INSTEAD; IVE HEARD IT MYSELF, SOUND QUALITY IS EXCELLENT.....
Sir had the chance to own an Onkyo 484 + Wharf 8.2, 8.1 & Center, my first setup for Audio, these gears are warm with a little detail, not fatiguing even long hours of listening, love the soft dome tweeter sound of Wharf, female vocals are smooth and high that just right but lack bass maybe due to 8.2 ( bookshelf ) For HT, this combo is fine, paired it with a good sub and placement yari na hehehehe.. pero mas type ko combo for audio than HT.. Yamaha naman sa HT kasi ;D ;D ;D have this combo for 2 years.. :) :)
Umamin ka rin ah! ;D Musta sir ang bago nating laruan? Sir, ingat lang dun sa grills niyan dahil madaling masira. :D Sir bagay na bagay sa tube amp yan. EL-34 STC Pushpull, shoot na shoot yan tapos naka tube preamp, ay siya!
Nako!! UMAMIN DIN!!
Congrats SENYOR PUNK_KID sa Diamond 8.3!! Puyatan nanaman yan!!! ;D
i even heARD OUT THAT WHARFDALE SPEAKERS ARE INDEED MADE IN ASIA RYT NOW AND NOT MADE OF KEVLAR ANYMORE...
IT IS LIKE TO BE COMPARED TO AS SYNTHETIC LEATHER SHOES.
SOME AUDIO STORES MAY SAY BUY DAI-1CHI INSTEAD; IVE HEARD IT MYSELF, SOUND QUALITY IS EXCELLENT.....
av_phile 1
Bro learned that also so in case your wife throw something at you pwede sya shield?? hehehehe ;D ;D ;D ;D
ha ha ha.pambihirang patis......niyayari nyo naman yung mga naka kevlar cone dyan eh. ;D eh di pag sa gyera pla eh pwede kang magpatugtog habang nakasuot sa katawan mo yun. ;D
Bro sila walang protection hehehehehe ;D ;D ;D ;D
wanderlust,
8.3 try natin sa Hafler yan mas maganda for sure!!! >:D >:D
Prend Punk_kid,
baka gusto mo lang naman?? to hear what your 8.3 can do.. ;) ;)
hintayin muna nating ma break-in tong manok ko para d mapahiya >:D
balik kevlar din ko senyor ;D ;D ;D
prend punk_kid,
tweak mo agad ng sand filling para mas tighter yun bass and clearer mids.. hehehehe
kid_lat,
Oo nga... ako pinagiipunan ko pa yung pang tweak ko. Mahal kasi ticket papuntang boracay eh! Ahehehehe... ;D
guys, just a thought, maybe we could have an actual shoot-out this time, using GUNS ;D to test the sufficiency of the kevlar to expel bullets. >:D
the real stress test eto! ;D
gamitin natin guinea pig yong 8.3 ni punk_kid, eto alam kung pina ka bagong speaker na alam ko e! >:D >:D >:D
makikisingit lang poww...
spectra had this demo at park square and i was intrigued to look for the pacific evo series. when i saw their price list, they had a separate list for their pacific AND evo series. i thought at first they're one and the same pero mukhang magkaiba ata (based dun sa price list). please enlighten me mga gurus :D
also i saw the wharf's crystal series, cheaper compared to diamonds. had anyone ever auditioned these stuff?
thanks! ;D
Masta JOJOd,
Gusto mo ma KID_latan!!!
fish fish...
Bro yun Pacific Evolution series are new released of Pacific series yun former was Pacific PI.. :) :) :)
sir hans guru ka talaga! ;) e yung Evo series iba pa din yun? same price range sya ng B&W at mission e ??? sensya na madami tanong :D
Guys,u can try visit spectra @ parksquare 1 ayala center
Saan naba makakabili ngayon ng murang 8.4? Brand new ha.
Thanks.
Tumaas na talaga presyo... 7+ na ang 8.3 at 8+ naman ang 8.4.Kagagawan mo yan slayer! Ikaw ang salarin kung bakit tumaasa ang presyo niyan! Ahehehehehehe >:D >:D fish sticks tayo!!!!!!!!!!
Guys, wag nyo munang puriin ng husto ang wharfedale baka magkaroon ulit ng price increase hintayin nyo muna kaming makabili. Parang awa nyo na hirap na hirap na kami :'( ;D ;D
Tried and tested di lang sa tubo... pati narin sa HK/XLO combi! >:D
ganda rin sa rotel/xlo combi ;D >:D
Senyor Kimpao,
Price increase pati pala Wharf nadale..
Ahahahahahaha!!!!!! Kayo kasi, ikinabit-kabit pa kasi sa tubo ayan tuloy nag-taasan ang presyo ng whafdale lalo na yung diamond series. >:( slayer at KID_lat, hala kasalanan niyo yan! ;D ;D ;D Ahehehehehehe!!!!! fish salciado po tayooooooo!!!!!!!!!! ;D
Master, sa MA hindi kayo kundi tayo. :o :o Ahehehehehe!!!!!! ;D ;D
Ahahahahahaha!!!!!! Kayo kasi, ikinabit-kabit pa kasi sa tubo ayan tuloy nag-taasan ang presyo ng whafdale lalo na yung diamond series. >:( slayer at KID_lat, hala kasalanan niyo yan! ;D ;D ;D Ahehehehehehe!!!!! fish salciado po tayooooooo!!!!!!!!!! ;D
kaya ako sa tot....... na lng! affordable na, wla pang price increase my 50% sale and free delivery pa. hanep din after sales service. hikihikihik. ;D
panalo din sa tunog, buy pinoy pa. o dba patriotic ang dating. ahehehe. ;D wag lang don sa mga nang aaway. >:D
fish po tayo..... ha. :-[
O0 O0 O0
Sir Wharfedale Pacific Evolution Series is different from Aegis EVO series. The previous Wharfedale Pacific Evolution Series sports a protruding tweeter or has a separate tweeter enclosure on top of the speaker enclosure. The newer one has its tweeter embedded on the enclosure. EVO series is a different story, this one is made by Acoustic Evolution. Sir, alin ba dito sa dalawa ang nakita o type natin? ;D
Wharfedale Pacific Evolution 30
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Acoustic Energy Aegis EVO3
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nga e mali ata ako..... cge na nga 8.3 na uli sir punk, musta na pala 8.3 mo, gumganda ba lalo? dinig ko lagi ka raw namimis nya. hehehe.
wharfedale owner pa rin din nman ako e, center na nga lang. hehehe. oy, babalik na pala sya ngyn sa akin, pina tweak ko e. HT n uli ako. ;Dhehehe.
sir punk bagay dyan sa 8.3 mo center ko, gusto mo para nasa center tlga yong 2nog pag nagpatugtug ka. ahihihihi. >:D >:D >:D
Punk_kid,
Balita ko 4 years to break in Wharf ;D ;D kaya dapat pala sir 24/7??
fish sticks...
punk_KID,
Confirmed from Mr Andrew pwede sa pagburn ng cd kaya meron distortion tweeter to make sure interchange your speaker and play the cd again if initially sa left yun distortion dapat dun pa rin when you repeat it.. :) :) kaya don't worry po. O0
mukhang my prolema agad wharfe natin sir ah, dont worry ur just being paranoid, ganyan tlga pag mahal mo gamit mo, ingat na ingat ka!
but i seriously hope wlang problem sir, otherwise, warranty time!
Punk_kid,
OO nga hehehhe walang problem yan.. btw meron akong magic cd for break in mas maganda ito.. kasi puro pink noise and pwede specific area bass, mid and high..
Trolling lang...
I was at the listening room megamall last sunday window shopping (again ;D ) and canvass the price of wharfs which were as follows:
8.4 = 9,000/pair
8.3 = 7,500/pair
8.1 = 5,000/pair
center = 4,200
Mga bro parang tumaas yata? ???
Anyway, I never had the chance to audition them though coz the wife and kids were waiting outside the store.
Punk_kid,
OO nga hehehhe walang problem yan.. btw meron akong magic cd for break in mas maganda ito.. kasi puro pink noise and pwede specific area bass, mid and high..
Trolling lang...
I was at the listening room megamall last sunday window shopping (again ;D ) and canvass the price of wharfs which were as follows:
8.4 = 9,000/pair
8.3 = 7,500/pair
8.1 = 5,000/pair
center = 4,200
Mga bro parang tumaas yata? ???
Anyway, I never had the chance to audition them though coz the wife and kids were waiting outside the store.
Parang hindi. Those asking prices are kinda familiar from early last year when I got the center before settling for the MS. But I think I got one with some discounts.
And I know the pressures of having the wife and kids at the mall. ;D Suggest you audition them alone or with friends of the same hobby. And surprise them when you bring your new toys home. ;D Or is it the wifey who heads the treasury department? ;D
Punk_kid,
OO nga hehehhe walang problem yan.. btw meron akong magic cd for break in mas maganda ito.. kasi puro pink noise and pwede specific area bass, mid and high..
Trolling lang...
I was at the listening room megamall last sunday window shopping (again ;D ) and canvass the price of wharfs which were as follows:
8.4 = 9,000/pair
8.3 = 7,500/pair
8.1 = 5,000/pair
center = 4,200
Mga bro parang tumaas yata? ???
Anyway, I never had the chance to audition them though coz the wife and kids were waiting outside the store.
Meron bang store bandang north selling wharfs? kahit bandang sm north?
Dun sa mga owners, ano masasabi nyo sa 8.4, 8.3, 8.1 in terms of sound quality? I'm particular kasi sa mids then sa highs - gusto ko clean, clear and crisp yung sound. am planning to use it for ht and audio pairing with my Yam 440, kaya kaya?
Ano kaya kung puro 8.1? :) :)
wanderlust,
HK and wharf are very good combo..due to wharf are power hungry and HK can provide the power it need to SING.. ;D ;D
Kid_lat,
Ganyan combo ng audio ko.. hehehehe
Kid_lat,Ganda ng Speaker ni Master Hans, shhhh di siya Diamond 8, higher model than that! Pacific evolution series ba yun? (like B&W 800 series) Ibang klase soundstage!
Ganyan combo ng audio ko.. hehehehe
Ganda ng Speaker ni Master Hans, shhhh di siya Diamond 8, higher model than that! Pacific evolution series ba yun? (like B&W 800 series) Ibang klase soundstage!
Ganda ng Speaker ni Master Hans, shhhh di siya Diamond 8, higher model than that! Pacific evolution series ba yun? (like B&W 800 series) Ibang klase soundstage!
tsaka nag iisa lang yan dito sa pinoy hehehehe .............kuyang hanssssssss pis ta u
J_albert,
Mahilig ako magsolo.. hehehehe
PANO KC KAYA NAGSOSOLO DAHIL ISA LANG EVO 30 MO NA DUMATING DITO SA PINAS HEHEHHEHEHE
pssst meron na 3 pairs sold after a few months hehhehehe kaya di na ako nag-iisaaaa.. ;D ;D
oks lang yan hans...proud ka naman sa evo30 mo...di ba??? jk jk jk fish!
i second that, seen it heard it and touch the one and only evo of sir hans.... one of a kind!!!!
i second that, seen it heard it and touch the one and only evo of sir hans.... one of a kind!!!!
Guys,
Pag break in ng Evo30 after 4 years daw eh.. shootout ulit hehehehe ;D ;D
Yan ka na naman, tpos natatakot ka pag nilalakas namin volume. :P ;D ;D ;D
Mahina loob ko sir.. di ko matiis na mabugbog sya..
Guys,
Pag break in ng Evo30 after 4 years daw eh.. shootout ulit hehehehe ;D ;D
sir, baka Evo70 na makalaban nyan sa shoot out hihihihi
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D sir musta 8.3??
ganda na tumunog sir pero di pa break in kasi wala pang 4 years eh ;D
kung pwede nga lang kaso la kong sasakyan para bitbitin ko lagi tong 8.3 ko hehehe
eh di shootout ka palagi dyan sa inyo! hahaha ;D ;D ;D parang palagi may party sa bahay nyo pre. ;D
langya nga pre! panay tuloy ang gulaman sa amin dahil ang ganda daw ng sounds ko ;D ;D
eh di shootout ka palagi dyan sa inyo! hahaha ;D ;D ;D parang palagi may party sa bahay nyo pre. ;D
langya nga pre! panay tuloy ang gulaman sa amin dahil ang ganda daw ng sounds ko ;D ;D napupuyat lalo tuloy ako ;D
hehehe, di bale sa sounds ka mapuyat sir, wag lang sa ibang dahilan. >:D ;D ;D Fish!
nakakapuyat talaga sir mag break-in ng mga gears, may warning memo na ko sa work dahil dito sa hobby natin ;D ;D
pag laging 2am ang soundtrip mo, sigurado laging late tayo hehehe
Grabe ka Senor PUnk.. 2 am ako 12mn eh hirap na..iba talga meron 8.3 bago..
kailangan kasi ma breakin mabuti kaya inaabot ng 2am.
eh ako nga kagagawa ng gainclone inaabot ng 4am eh. kaya tuwing tatawag si hans sa bahay bagong gising ako. hehehe ;D
oy.... gainclone my nagpagaw ba syo sir? kilala ko kaya e2?
sir punk @ hans,
e ako nga hangang 3 am e. buti na lang wala akong time in, pero puro padinig na ako dito sa opis...... hehehehe.
Wonderlust and Punk_kid,
Yan mahirap eh....palaging kayong late..
tigil na work!!! :P :P :P ;D ;D ;D
May nagpagawa nga.... panibagong evolution na naman ng hybrid gc ito. Sure bagay na bagay sa Wharfs ito. ;D
uy may pinahihiwatig ka yata ;D
Masta JOJOd,
Kala ko blind item naman showbiz!! ;) ;)
Punk_kid,
Bro try to replace the jumpers of you 8.3 for must cleaner sound.. ;D ;D
Punk_kid,
Bro try to replace the jumpers of you 8.3 for must cleaner sound.. ;D ;D
JojoD Masta,
OO naman di pwede sa meralco... hehehehe
Nakuh takot ako dyan.... basta jumper ayaw ko nyan. ::) ;D ;D ;D
Meron nga ako jumper na maong pero di ko sinusuot. Gulo no? ;D
Guys,
Puro kaya kalokohan...
Kim, gulaman later?? text akyat.
Kimpao,
Pag ulan... nipa
Pag di ulan PC
;D ;D
OT
Sir HANS,KIMPAO and AKYAT,sorry to butt in pro i think we live in the same area.been reading your posts eversince pro hiya lang ako singit since im quite new sa forums until kita ko pc(pioneer center?) and nipa(nipahut?pasig)na malapit where i live.Sana if im not impossing too much baka i can join any one of your sessions,hilig din ako sa gulaman lalo na pag may SAGO,hehehe. ;D have a nice day guys.
Ricky,
Join us sa mga session.. its more than Audio pre.. :D
Ricky,
Join us sa mga session.. its more than Audio pre.. :D
Ricky,
Join us sa mga session.. its more than Audio pre.. :D
Sirs,parang hindi ko po kaya yatang mag ka SARS at this time ;D hehehe,lapit na second sem kaya start saving money na pang tuition. :-[ huhuhu. sir try ko po attend sa saturday although mukhang malabo since weekend is for the kids,anyways san po ba venue and what time start?just in case makapuslit ako ;D
Excempted si Don ST Kimpao sa wallet sickness... laging paldo yan si sir! Fishy fishy! ;D
hu............. maniwala ako. my niluluto k lang sir ngayon kaya good boy muna dating. tsaka 1 wk p lng mkII mo e kaya at peace ka pa. mwehehehe.
cge rick punta kaya mo yang SARS n yan......
fish..... ulam ko knina.
Senor Kimpao,
Ikaw pa palagi kang di mapakali..
fish balls...
IDOL!!!!!!!! :o :o ;D ;D ;D Ahehehehehe..................
flying fish po tayo kuya...........
Guys,
Any update sa new Diamond 9 series?? :) :)
wanderlust,
Ako just saw the pictures at What hifi magazine.. kya nalaman ko while jetok when he went to singapore saw the diamond 9 displayed at a audio shop.
nabasa ko din sa magazine pero di ko tanda kung anong magazine ???
same enclosure as evo, kevlar pa din pero itim di tulad ng sa 8series na dilaw
di ko lang matandaan kung silk dome pa din ang tweeter....
next month daw irereview...
pag nakita ko uli yung magazine iupdate ko kayo hehehe
tried surfing the net for the diamond 9 yet i couldnt find any, even at the wharfedale site, how could it be?
slayer,
Senor ST slayer notice the woofer have some plup.. type ko 9.3.. >:D >:D
J_albert,
Sana meron para ma audition and hope reasonable and price.. ;D
kung nagkataon my magsisisi nyan. parehong pareho design, tunog, at mas bago at mura pa.........
hayyy, pano na lang yan, e mukhang mas pogi pa ang nwebe kaysa evo...
hehehe.
fish...... in me.
ganda ng 9.6..mas mura pa ata sa evo30 hehehe jk jk jk FISH!
punk_kid,
Ok tamang tama bka end of October to early November release sa Pinas eh meron na christmas bonus.. ;D ;D
mga sirs, tanong ko lang kung kayang i-drive ng sakura amps itong diamond 8's. OK kaya itong setup na to;i suggest you use branded amp to be able to enhance the quality of the speakers
im planning to use the 8.4/DFS/and the center with the Sakura 387 amp(not enough moolah on a decent amp! :'( ), anyone of you guys tried this combo.
and anong mas magandang gawing rear yung DFS or yung 8.1.
tnx! ;D
mga sirs, tanong ko lang kung kayang i-drive ng sakura amps itong diamond 8's. OK kaya itong setup na to;
im planning to use the 8.4/DFS/and the center with the Sakura 387 amp(not enough moolah on a decent amp! :'( ), anyone of you guys tried this combo.
and anong mas magandang gawing rear yung DFS or yung 8.1.
tnx! ;D
Dapat talaga, test and listen muna before buying lalu na pag budgeted ang funds. ;)
just my cent bro....
i once had an 8.4 as main speakers............ to heavy on the bass things get to bommy and tiring........ why not use an 8.3 instead....... well rounded pa foe HT and audio....
btw, are you sure the sakura could decode dts or at dolby 5.1 sound? baka AC3 lng yan?
Guys,
Would rather check the quality of mids and highs of the speaker than the bass you can always add a sub if you like bass tsaka for HT sub is a must also help lessen the load of your Amp.
amen galing talaga idol ;D ;D ;D ;D kaya nga legend na dito
Mga sir tanong ko lang po, ano sa tatlong ampli HK/NAD/YAMAHA ang babagay sa 8.4 speakers para sa 50% music, 50% movie. thanksHK will be better than the two wharf speakers are hard driven so u need a high current amp to drive it
Allvin_98
how's the wharfedale 8.3 center speaker? Wharf diamond 12" sub as compared to USAudio 512MK2/DQ12/DTX4.12?8C speaker definitely will be paired for 8.3
due to budget constraints, i can go initially for either 8.3 fronts and DTX4.12/USAudio512 or 8.3 fronts and center. If you're suggesting a better sub than DTX4.12/USAudio512 then the sub has to wait until enough funds are raised and go for 8.3 fronts and center for the time being. do you think i'll appreciate my ht without the dedicated sub and let the fronts do the job (ofcourse to some extent).
HK will be better than the two wharf speakers are hard driven so u need a high current amp to drive it
when it comes to music for the yamaha it sounds terrible but wen into movies definitely good
Ah ok. but how about the performance when it comes to music and movies? ok ba cya?much better ba un HK kesa sa NAD and YAMAHA?
thanks
allvin_98
comparison of wharf 8.3 and 8.4...is the price difference justificable for the improvements made?
thanks.
Guys sorry for OT, ask ko lang mga magkano ba pwede ibenta ang WH2 complete set? slightly used pa lang ito ang complete with box and all stuff. Tnx.
Bro, check out the buy n sell section to get an idea of their selling price. I think they sell it around 3k to 4k.
Guys, this might be out of topic kasi this thread is about Diamond 8s but still i posted. Meron bang authorized repair shop ng mga wharfedale speakers? Meron kasi akong wharfedale modus 3 na medyo busted na yung cone ng mid/woofer at gusto kong ipa-repair o palitan, could you help me with this.
Thanks in advance.
Distributor ng Wharfedale, Pioneer, & Dynaquest sub
MICRO ACOUSTICS IND INC
MR HERBERT CO
+63-2-8526706
+63-2-8520029
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Bring your Yamaha 650 when auditioning and compare both speakers. For me, i like the sound of 8.3. you need to have a large room to appreciate the capability of 8.4.
just my 5 centimo
Mga sirs,
Pag dumating yung sars late this year o early next year (c/o warfs 9) ako una sa listahan nyo pagbenta ng 8.3.
Salamat.
Control and Chito,
Mukhang better option yan since yun preowned units are pwedeng broken in na so what you hear is what you get na.. ;D ;D
Guys, just bought the WH2 center and rears yesterday. ilang hrs of use ba bago siya ma break in? anong setting ng volume? and may nabibili bang cd na pang speed up ng break in?
:'( :'(
What i mean is run in na not broken or damage.. ;D ;D
Ah..hehehe...but if the price gap is close maybe i'll just consider buying a new one..
The problem with new ones is the 4 year break-in period ;D ;D ;D with pre-owned ones you'll be amazed of its sound which you will not find in a freshly opened new one ;D >:D
100 hours and just used it pwede na at moderate volume lang..
Congrats!!
J-albert, wanderlust, & kimpao,
Mga bossing ako naman nakita nyo ha... ;D ;D
Chito C,
sa tagal ko na rin bumibili ng mga pre-owned dito sa pdvd eh di pa naman ko nakaka-encounter ng sirang unit tsaka you will audition it naman before buying it unless kung masyado ka na atat sa unit na gusto mong bilhin ;D
nice setup nya bro wharfedale all the way ;)
eto pa mas magandang speaker setup:
Diamond 8.3 - front
Diamond 8.1 - rear
Diamond C - center
>:D >:D >:D
kahit dq-12 lang sir ok na for the sub, but if ever you have the budget got with either polk or ms subs......
hmmmm funny i never have auditioned a wharf sub before......
Sir wanderlust, mga magkano kaya ang aabutin ng ms subs ngayon? Kasi as I have read dito sa mga thread dq12 is @ 6-10k at medyo mahirap maghanap.. ???
you can also try US Auido sub around 6k din
Ok Sir punk....salamat ng marami now all I have to do is wait, tagal kasi ng October 30 (para makuha ko na yung loan ko na pambili ng A/V & speakers) ...... haaaaayyyyyyyy :'( :'( :'(
konting tiis lang bro mawawaldas mo rin yan ;D ;D
nyahahaha.....kating-kati na kasi ako....sana ngayon lang itong kating to...at mahirap din kung early stages na ng SARS ito... ;D
symptoms na yan ng SARS lalo na pag laging naka online dito ;D OT na tayo :D
control,
Oct 30 pa pala.. di audition ng audition pre para pagdating ng fund eh sure ka na sa combo mo.. SUB hmmm suggest get a 10" sub USaudio or DTX ok na..
Thanks Sir Hans..actually yung subs na lang ang pinoproblema ko...these are my choices.
1. dq-12
2. 10" USAudio
3. DTX
Sir depend on your room how big? tsaka the 3 brands are tested na to be reliable and best buy.. ;D
control,
Kaya na 10" dyan..
Thank you very much Sir Hans.....grabe...naatat na naman akong bumili kagad.....haaaayyyyy....ang tagal..
Muling itaguyod ang DIAMOND 8... ;D
Sir napaghahalata na tinamaan ka ng SARS, ah. Ahehehehehehe ;D ;D ;D
Contained pa naman as of now Sir.. ;D
Gusto mo pawalan natin yan. >:D ;D
Contained pa naman as of now Sir.. ;D
Senor Off_CoNtrol,
Si chito naghahanap na ng 8.3... now the chance hehehehe
;D Hirap pang pakawalan 8.3 Sir Pasok...bili na lang ako ng bago 9.2 para sa toooooot..... :-X >:D
Aha! may bagong project si Off_Control...... eto forecast ko dyan
9.2.....................GC......................Xlo................... ::) >:D ;D
Senor Control,
Sama kami pag bili mo ha.. kay suki tayo.. ;D ;D ;D
Senor oFF_conTrol,
GC ba?? pssssst meron si Tummy bagong GC project dalawa ang Toot... ;D ;D
meron akong stand kaso pinag iisipan ko pa kung may ipapatong akong......... tooooot
;D ;D ;D
;D Uunahin ko muna yung speakers Sir... tamang tama sa bigayan ng bonus >:D Sayang baka may additional x-mas discount.... >:D
Wait lang ako sa 8.3 nyo pero wait din ako sa mga reviews ng 9's.
Benta nyo na 8.3 nyo.
Sir Chito, for bookshelf I can recommend the 9.2, as for floorstander 9.4 ...we both have tested it and proved that they are both good for the price.. ;D For fronts nga pala yan ha.. ;D
Why not all around? If you're into multi-channel hi-res music, they demand identical full rangers even at the back.
Actually all rounder sya.. plan ata ni Control eh Diamond 8 sa rear and Diamond 9 for fronts.. ;D
o cge patong natin yong 8.3 sa stands pa, para d na overkill. sorround na din ang dating. ahehehe
for sale na sakin! bago p man mahuli ang lahat.
Nakita nyo naman kung gaano ka SOLID mga owners ng 8.3 ;D
;D8.3 all the way ;D
hmmmmm, ibig bang sabihin nito mas lalong bumaba resale value ng diamond 8?
waaaaahhhh.........
for sale na sakin! bago p man mahuli ang lahat.
nasa 6.8k ata.... not sure though. sabi lang to ni hans sakin when he was getting my 8.3 (duda nga ako e) hehehehe. ;D
fish k0yang.
is there no risk of damaging the tweeter at shorted position? what would the max receiver setting be?
thanks
I'm planning to have a separate setup for audio, I already have an ONKYO TX 800 amp rated at 160W 8ohms paired with a surplus CDP , do you guys think that it can make an 8.3 sing or is the 9.2 better, or do you have any suggestion for a better speaker for the same price range. How about an 8.1?
Thanks! ;D for the help.
Check out the mordaunt shorts. Pardon me, but I'm a biased user of Mordaunt. (Notwithstanding their lousy after sales)
I personally don't see any problem pairing an Onkyo with a diamond (8 or 9). Though some say both onkyo and wharfes are on the warm side. I wouldn't really classify the MS as bright. Just more detailed in the highs. And a warm sounding onkyo can better be served with a more detailed speaker. I've tried them in my transistion set-up last year, great detailing.
Sir LETOR, Harman Kardon is the answer. ;)
if you want you can audition the wharf n harman @ spectra Parksquare 1 so that you'll be able to differentiate the two
Thanks!!!! Control.
How about the with the 8.1. I know that this speaker has a different frequency characteristics from the 8.3 on the mids and highs (disregard the bass its understandable because of its big enclosure and driver ). Will the H/K make it sing too?
Letor,
HK can drive all the Diamond 8 series from is smallest model 8.1 to 8.4.. even the 9 series match. :)
Thanks hans & control....
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who said the diamond 8 series is for cheap set-ups only?
Diamond 8 (and 9) is in fact a cheap setup . . . . . :o
. . . . . . but the sound performance surpasses that of many high-priced high ends! ;D
- with the right amp of course! ;)
its never the price for me............ its how it will perform and how ill enjoy it.
It should have speaker spikes plus a wood panel inside the box
yung speaker mo dyan naka patong sa wood panel tapos ang spikes sa wood panel naka mount. protection ng speaker box mo yung panel para hindi dali ma sira yung base nya at saka vinyl wood finishing nya. dyan ang mounting provision ng spikes sa panel eh.
sir, para saan yun wood panel?
sir, para saan yun wood panel?
Sir mas magandang mag-perform ang LS3 kaysa sa wharfedale..
ano to ha..... anong ibig mong sabihin nito?
kukuha ka ng ls3 sir? oist, congrats ha! padinig nyan sir! ganda nyan!
Mga sir, wala ba sa inyo may balak mag benta ng 8.3 dyan! ;D
KID_lat & oFFContROL,
Uy chance to jump into the 9 series na ito pre.. ;D ;D ;D
Nagtataka lang ako... nagbigayan na ng bonus ngunit wala parin nag uupgrade sa 9s? Ano ba mga 8 boys?
ano wala pa? meron na si KoyA ah... si attorney kumukuha lang ng tyempo yan eh! >:D
o baka humahanap lang ng mahihiram na sasakyan dahil 9.4 yata ang kukunin nyan. >:D
Naghihintay lang ng ibang kulay ng 9._... pero mas priority nya yung isang project >:D di ba attorney wander_ _ _ _ _ ;D
anong store yun?
And who knows baka may tinatapos lang na kaso yan, magugulat na lang tayo at naka 9.something na yan! ;D
Bilib talaga ako dun sa Wharfs sa tutuban, pati nga yun mga nag-gagandahang mga saleslady eh napapa-indak sa music. ;D
anong store yun?
ano wala pa? meron na si KoyA ah... BOnus ba Masta JOJO
Naku bonus di uso sa office namin yan..
question lang po...
would you trade your 8.3 with a 9.2?
Bro may kilala ako ginawa yan.. ;D ;D ;D
talaga mga sir,
mas satisfied kaya sila ngayon kesa dati o parehas lang ang feeling? ;)
Palagay ko masarap ang feeling nun mga nag swap.....
Pero may kilala ako na may guilty feeling eh... ;D
::)
May kilala rin akong ganyan Sir ;D
::)
oo nga di na nakatiis bumili na agad at ano kayang kulay ang nabili? ::)
::)
oo nga di na nakatiis bumili na agad at ano kayang kulay ang nabili? ::)
Di nga nakatiis Black na lang binili.. ;D
Nasa magkano ba ang pinakamurang 9.x series?
dealer na dealer ang dating mo Koya ;D :P Btw, musta na yung toooooot mo? ;)
Sir hindi dealer yang si kOya... tooootttttt yan. ;D
Salesman of the Year!
Yan baka akala naman ng people eh totoo connected ako sa mga shop.. ;D ;D ;D
http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0RgAPA5cUxNpstCf8xyJvGq!
another look of diamond 8.1
okay tnx for the advice. pls check if okay already. na edit ko na.
new owner of an 8.4
masasabi ko lang... kewl O0
new owner of an 8.4
masasabi ko lang... kewl O0
thanks! :)
im using yammy 440
okie naman... usually mula -60db to -40db lang vol ko and
great improvement since satellite speakers lan gamit ko dati
(yamaha nsp 106). me difference talaga pag me mid bass at
least mas buo tunog kapag kikinig ako ng music and tulong
din yung sub ko sa lower frequencies. kaya panalo hehe :D
pag pumikit ako... kala ko nasa harap ko si kyla ;D
lalo na sa HT, mas naging powerful yung sound.
teka, pano nyo ba break-in wharfedale? saka sabi sa thread,
mas matagal daw to break-in.
basta wag mo muna itodo yung volume ng husto. siguro as time goes by, unti unti mong dagdagan yung volume.
good to know that you can feel kyla in front of you :) pag nagpapatugtog ako ng michael buble, iiwasan kong pumikit hehehe.
hehehe.bakit sir ayaw mong pumikit? baka ma-in-love ka ba kay michael buble? at maiyak...
Hi guys, I was planning to buy either Wharfedale 8.DFS or 9.DFS to replace my WH-2 bipole speakers (120 w). I love the way the WH2 bipoles throw the sound around our HT environment. Its just that sometimes bumibigay yung sound when its very loud (Air Force 1, for example). I auditioned the WH3 and it sounds like a loud transistor radio.
The DFS is just 100w but a dealer said that it uses bigger drivers and therefor its louder. But I was never able to audition it.
Can anyone using 8 or 9.DFS give any feedback please? Thanks in advance.
mga bro,
planning to buy my 1st wharf eh...budget is 10k..but can stretch it a bit kung OK..
what is the best buy ba?
I've auditioned an 8.4 eh OK naman para sa akin..
pero di ko pa na try mag pa audition ng 9s eh...ano ba katapat ng 8.4 sa 9 series in term of price and quality?
thanks!
i have an 8.4 and satisfied with it...
but if you have a little more money... then get the 9.5
para nde ka mag ka SARS
hehehe ;D
how much is the 9.5 ? baka malapit na rin sa price ng Mission speakers..eh di mag Mission na lang ako.. hay naku?!? hehe
Need Help!!!! Mga sirs, my brother has a Diamond 8.3 speakers and is planning to buy a new surround receiver. The choices are Harman/Kardon AV635, Denon AVR 885 or 985. Sa may mga experience sa Denon at HK, which do you think is the best receiver that will match with Wharfedale Diamond 8.3. Preference is 50/50 for HT and Music listening. Thanks for any expert advise....Need the advise before Wednesday since the above products are in promo.very easy dude....go for the HK635 ;)
very easy dude....go for the HK635 ;)
sir, any short comment or description regarding the HK + D8.3 combination and the Denon + D8.3 if you have tested it. Thanks...HK is high current amplifier eventhough low wattage indicated but definitely its very powerful
Need Help!!!! Mga sirs, my brother has a Diamond 8.3 speakers and is planning to buy a new surround receiver. The choices are Harman/Kardon AV635, Denon AVR 885 or 985. Sa may mga experience sa Denon at HK, which do you think is the best receiver that will match with Wharfedale Diamond 8.3. Preference is 50/50 for HT and Music listening. Thanks for any expert advise....Need the advise before Wednesday since the above products are in promo.
Go for the HK635. How much is it w/ promo?try asking spectra @ 8185493
how can the diamond 8's compare to diamond 9's ??diamond 9 mas improve ang high frequency nya compared sa diamond 8
preferably the diamond 8.4 and diamond 9.5 ??
also the Diamond 8.1 and Diamond 9.1 ? cause im planning on getting a used set of 8 series since maliit lang budget ko :(
btw, it'l be powered by a Yamaha RXV-490 AVR
how can the diamond 8's compare to diamond 9's ??
preferably the diamond 8.4 and diamond 9.5 ??
also the Diamond 8.1 and Diamond 9.1 ? cause im planning on getting a used set of 8 series since maliit lang budget ko :(
btw, it'l be powered by a Yamaha RXV-490 AVR
also the Diamond 8.1 and Diamond 9.1 ? cause im planning on getting a used set of 8 series since maliit lang budget ko :(
My pre-owned Wharfedale 8.4 produces annoying crackling sounds (Volume 35) during rocket scene (the Incredibles R3) and some other loud sounding scenes but never did on the entire Batman Begins DE R3(same volume)
Is it the sound track or is it my speakers (damaged goods?) I noticed that when I lowered the volume to 30, no crackling/ "katok"/ tunog sira. The dvd was great for surrounds but too harsh for my fronts (I thought this floorstanders can handle the heat) anyway as I mentioned, parang special case ung Incredibles.
I also tried decreasing the specefic volume of the fronts(level 0 and -7) and crackling disappeared but didn't produced the same sound production (too little bass, I have no Subwoofer).
The front channels were the only ones affected, the rest were ok.
Please advise.
Thanks.
I'm using an Onkyo 501 but I doubt it's got anything to do with it because it was in a major way, case specific to the Incredibles movie only. I have not experienced it sa other movies and never happened on music neither.
The one I am considering right now (thanks to you) is the the lack of subwoofer. On the island(the Incredibles) where Dash was running from the launching rocket, the sound produced by the rocket boosters, was that LFE extensive or will these sounds be subwoofer dependent? In that case my 8.4 are not the culprit.
What is the cheapest subwoofer out there? I have seen online a WH2 subs.
sir, magkano nalang po kaya ang diamond 8.4? tyaka sa diamond 9, hindi ko alam yung model nung floorstander eh...pero magkano din kaya?ang price ng 8.4 dati ay 9000 pero bumaba na ang price. ang katapat ng 8.4 ay 9.5 same dual driver nasa 12500 nman.
ang price ng 8.4 dati ay 9000 pero bumaba na ang price. ang katapat ng 8.4 ay 9.5 same dual driver nasa 12500 nman.
subukan mong pumunta sa spectra meron sila ng mga wharf
san po ba spectra? palagi ko kseng nakakalimutan eh....
mga peeps... kaya po ba ng RX-V650 un wharfedale 8.4?
Mga Sir.....Contact info ng stores that sells Wharfedale Pacific Evo Series10 Bookshelf ..maraming salamat.Sir sa spectra meron sila located sa parksquare 1 8185493
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peace!!!!
kayang kaya bro...
anyone tried using "dark" or "warm" IC's wih the 8.1's, and one with a more "dynamic" sound? mine's a little thin, had significant improvement when I bi-wired but Im looking for a little bit more bass response (or Im probably comparing it to my car's, which means Im comparing oranges to apples?).
of course I don't want both these cables to be over P200/m since I'd want one of each so I'd be able to test them both and see which one i like.
yes your comparing apples and oranges - just look at the size of the room and the car
bass response, I dont think any cable no matter how expensive will improve the bass performance of any system, try positioning the 8.1 nearer the walls or corners or get a larger loudspeaker or add a sub
Mga bro, newbie question lang po: Diamond 8.3 is a 6 ohms speaker, if bi-wired ano po ang magiging effective impedance nito? Will it be the same at 6 ohms?
sirs,sir meron po sila stock ng tweeter ng 8.1
tanong ko lang kung meron kayong alam na mabibilhan ng tweeter para sa 8.1. Nagtanong na ako sa country distributor, authorized service center & a/v shops selling wharfs products pero wala daw. ??? ??? ???
thanks
ok lang kaya gawing surrounds ang 8.3? ??? ???
comments are welcome........
nice decision.nakapatong yun "Made in China" sticker sa nakaprint na Made in England ??? ???, been using it for almost three years na. ;D ;D
ask ko lang kung made in england ba 8.3 mo? I had 8.4 thrice all made in china but my 8.3 lacks the made in china sticker.
anyone knows the current prices of these speakers? btw ok ba ito i pair sa yamaha RX-V357? tnx!
diamond 8.3
diamond 8.4
diamond 8 DFS
diamond 8 Centre
ok na ba yung ganitong set up 8.2 pang front and 8.1 pang surround?
ok na ba yung ganitong set up 8.2 pang front and 8.1 pang surround?
;D malapit na bonus!!!
parang magkaka SARS ata ako... ;)
nad integrateds and a diamond 8.1 sounds real good ;)