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Title: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: bejiboys on Dec 15, 2001 at 02:57 AM
I would like to get feedback (praises, or otherwise) from those who own or were able to audition these Diamond 8 speakers.

I am a bit intrigued by these speakers as they cost very cheap (unconfirmed: <6k for 8.1, <4k for the centers) considering they are kevlar cones.

Only immediate drawback I was able to get is that they have low sensitivity (86 dB) and are "Made in China"

Thanks,

bejiboys. :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: vacuumtubes on Feb 07, 2002 at 08:16 PM
Bro Bejiboys

(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/WARF7.jpg)
Wharfedale win Best Buy Loudspeaker below £150

REVIEWS:

Diamond 8.1 First Test - What Hi-Fi? (April 2001, July 2001)
"These latest generation Diamonds are real star performers - certainly good enough to scare the established competition"
"These speakers produce a staggeringly good performance for the money"

Diamond 8.1 Gramophone(October 2001)
"Listening to the Diamond 8.1s, it's hard to find oneself repeating a mantra under one's breath. It goes '£120. £120? £120!', and is said with a rising degree of disbelief and no little glee, so good do these little speakers sound"
"Instantly set the level to which its rivals must now aspire."

Hi-Fi News (October 2001)
"Off-axis performance is one of this masterpiece's special party tricks."
"The 8.1 makes such good use of free space that you'll swear you were listening to a dipole made by QUAD"

"The image floated in front of me: truly holographic, utterly vivid"

"the 8.1s continued to astonish with a soundstage so wide and deep that one listener thought he was hearing the massive Apogee Scintillas sitting behind the diamonds...What almost 'sounded like £10,000 per pair' was the stage width, depth and image placement within the sound stage"
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: vacuumtubes on Feb 07, 2002 at 08:28 PM
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diam8blk.jpg)
Full Range includes Diamond 8.1 bookshelf speaker, Diamond 8.2 standmount speaker, Diamond 8.3 floorstanding speaker and Diamond 8 centre channel - All of which have now been awarded What Hi-Fi? magazines five stars!

The natural sound and stunning stereo imaging provide one of the most enjoyable listening experiences you'll ever get from a small speaker.Visit your local hi-fi dealer or electrical independent to arrange an audition.

Features throughout the range include:-
=Self-damping Bi-directional woven KEVLAR drive units with ultra smooth phase plugs
=Double wound, vented voice coils on bass/mid drivers
=Nitrile rubber inverted driver surround
=Hand-built quality
=Natural styling or black finish
=Bi-wirable gold-plated terminals
=MDF low resonance cabinet
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: vacuumtubes on Feb 07, 2002 at 08:36 PM
Wharfedale Diamond 8's
8.1 (http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/d8b3.htm)
8.2 (http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/d8b4.htm)
8.3 (http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/d8b5.htm)
center (http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/d8b6.htm)
specifications (http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/d8b7.htm)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Marsman on Feb 08, 2002 at 01:12 AM
nice review... where can my friend audition the diamonds. thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jay_cee_em on Feb 08, 2002 at 02:04 AM
Marsman

There's currently one home theater set-up at Tech Central at the Makati Cinema Square featuring the Diamond 8 series speakers.  Saw them yesterday.  Try to look for Amiel.

Great sound for budget speakers ;)

:)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Marsman on Feb 08, 2002 at 05:06 AM
jay_cee_em, thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: levi on Feb 08, 2002 at 09:21 AM
Its cheap and good looking. The only problem I noticed is the tweeter. I find it so weak.  I returned it and got a different brand. Just my 1 cent.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: gaol on Feb 08, 2002 at 09:34 PM
Meron ba siyang cloth cover for the drivers? Mukhang wala, kasi wala akong nakikitang butas kung saan ikakabit yung cover.

GAOL
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Marsman on Feb 08, 2002 at 09:49 PM
levi, thanks for the info. my friend will audition it later in the afternoon.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: backmarker on Feb 08, 2002 at 10:36 PM
gaol, meron syang black cloth cover for all speakers. I'm using the Diamond 8.2s, Diamond Center and Diamond V for my setup.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: gaol on Feb 08, 2002 at 10:40 PM

Quote

gaol, meron syang black cloth cover for all speakers. I'm using the Diamond 8.2s, Diamond Center and Diamond V for my setup.


ah okay. thanks mynameiswalts!

GAOL
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: levi on Feb 13, 2002 at 06:14 AM
Bringing this up for Cabletekkie.......
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: levi on Jul 19, 2002 at 11:27 PM
Reposting

Hello,  To present owners of wharfedales
 Contemplating on getting a wharfedale  speaker brand for my HT.
 I own a great sounding Wharfedale large bookshelf with a sealed enclosure (1995 model)  and I am thinking of just
adding a wharfedale center and surrounds plus a sub.
 What is a good Wharfedale model series?

Opal?  Valdus? Atlantic?  It seems that there are dozens of new Wharfedales around.  
How can I check for speaker sound matching with my old one?  Dala ko yung old wharfedale ko sa tindahan?
Or better yet, buy the whole wharfedale set pag di nag match ang sound?

Or should I get a mission brand?  Problem is that it might not match my old pair.

TY


Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: levi on Jul 19, 2002 at 11:28 PM
Reposting


get the wharfedale diamond 8 series...what hi fi recognized!!!


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Jick on Jul 20, 2002 at 06:02 PM

Its cheap and good looking. The only problem I noticed is the tweeter. I find it so weak.  I returned it and got a different brand. Just my 1 cent.


I agree with your assessment of the tweeter not being as crispy and detailed as other tweeters like the B&W.  But I think this is a good match for budget entry-level components with prices similar to Wharfedale, because most budget stuff tend to be grainy, harsh, and cold feeling.  The warmth and maybe even the little bit darker sound of the Wharfedale will tend to offset the shortcomings of some budget gear, but at the expense of some detail.  Then again, when prices are as cheap as Wharfedales there are always compromises, and the Diamond 8 series is as good as it gets.  Personally, I prioritize smoothness, warmth and lack of grain over clarity and crispness.  It's just a matter of preference, and clarity afficionados are better off using other gear like B&W which are very good detailed speakers.

I am in agreement with Whathifi's assessment of the 8.3s as having a little thickness  in the lower mid region.  To me this gives a little bit of a chesty sound ins ome recordings, but then again the weak tweeter of the Wharfedale gets rid of sibilance, which is a common fault for a lot of budget gear.

In short, I agree the tweeter is weak but to me it is a good thing.

Jovi
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: madrigal on Jul 21, 2002 at 08:56 AM
Hello,
  Almost bought the diamond 8 bec. of the nice reviews.

 Anyway, Over acting ang reviews ng hi fi mags since when I heard it, di naman masyadong maganda.  no detail in the higs when U listen to music.   Uses fabric tweeter instead of a metal.  Cheap casing with flimsy grille.
 
 Mura kasi kaya siguro it won 5 stars. When compared to similarly priced items such as Yamaha, sony, kewood etc.
The wharfs will be the best.  But among real hi fi brands like missions, b&W, energy etc.... it is a loser.

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Jick on Jul 21, 2002 at 05:30 PM

Hello,
  Almost bought the diamond 8 bec. of the nice reviews.

 Anyway, Over acting ang reviews ng hi fi mags since when I heard it, di naman masyadong maganda.  no detail in the higs when U listen to music.   Uses fabric tweeter instead of a metal.  Cheap casing with flimsy grille.
 
 Mura kasi kaya siguro it won 5 stars. When compared to similarly priced items such as Yamaha, sony, kewood etc.
The wharfs will be the best.  But among real hi fi brands like missions, b&W, energy etc.... it is a loser.




Always take into account that the US price is $200 and UK 120 pounds for the cheapest which is the 8.1.  So even the reviews hail it as a good speaker at the $200 (P10,000) price range.  And since they sell for P4,500 here, then it is a no-brainer that they are good for the price.  Dai-ichis are roughly the same price.

I do agree with the cheap casing and flimsy grill but for serious listening you don't use the grill.  I also agree with the lack of detail.  In short, the Wharefedale Diamonds are not expected to compete with much more expensive speakers.  I heard them side-by-side with my Dynaudio Audience 40 (P20,000 smallest, cheapest speaker in their line), and ang layo talaga.  Dynaudio by a mile.

I did hear the B&W DM303 and it was pretty good, but as for Mission, their m72 was ear-bleed for me.  Highs were way too bright and too sibilant and the bass was too boomy and out of control.  I'd pick the Wharfedale Diamonds over the Mission M7 series any day, although the Missions have much much better aesthetics and a better build quality.

Jovi
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: madrigal on Jul 24, 2002 at 06:44 AM
Bought the diamond 8

made in China.

does not sound too good.


Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Aug 09, 2002 at 12:16 PM

Bought the diamond 8

made in China.



for those of you who are deciding between the B&W dm303 and the wharf diamond series speakers, you might want to factor this in when deciding on which to get:

"(the DM303 is) the only example in our group of speakers by British brands that's actually built in Britain, at B&W's plant in Bradford, although the main driver is bought in from a Far Eastern source."

-www.hifichoice.co.uk

in other words while final assembly of the dm303 is done in britain, its main component is actually made somewhere here in Asia. my guess is its either malaysia or china.

yun lang po!

thanks

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Aug 09, 2002 at 01:13 PM
always consider the price before you expect something, from what I heard though the diamond 8.1s require a break in time of two weeks for its full potential to be heard. actually the diamond 8.1 has the most favorable sound from the diamond 8 series because from 8.2 up medyo muddy na raw ang midrange (I can attest to this one coz I almost bought an 8.3). Since I like my music to have a good midrange and my budget is tight (which it is right now) I might want to try a pair of 8.1s and see how they sound. My room is small anyway so I hope they do have a good midrange once the breakin period is over (crosses fingers). If they do sound good and my receiver (h/k avr2000) has no problems driving them, i'll just get a matching center and a diamond 8.1 for the rears.  :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: madrigal on Aug 13, 2002 at 07:23 AM
To Japjag:

   Do not attempt to get a diamond 8 to your HK2000.  A diamond 8 has a low sensitivity and with your HK's low
power, it will sound really weak.  Siguro yung powered subs mo lang ang magbibigay ng punch into your sound.
   I attest to that since I own a HK avr4000 and tried a diamond 8 set.   Using an  Infinity speaker with a 91dB sensitivity, the acceptable listening level on dvd was about -20 decibels against a -8 using a wharfedale diamond 8.
   The Diamond 8 sounds ok for the price,  but needs careful amp matching.

    This wharfedale 8 set sounds perfect in an NAD reciever but sounds bad with japanese recievers.  
    In my experience, the HK is better matched to a JBL or an Infinity speaker.

    Don't be tempted with the Diamond 8's low price or high rating.  Match it with your reciever.  But if you think it is the best, then go ahead.

     

TY  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Aug 13, 2002 at 10:11 PM
I've bought a diamond 8.1 and tested it with the avr2000, -20 is ok for stereo, the sound is great for the price, I guess I'll just use this for my audio setup (i'm planning to get a rotel int. amp hehehe) ;D I guess I'll give the psb alphas a try  ::)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Jick on Aug 14, 2002 at 09:57 PM

To Japjag:

   Do not attempt to get a diamond 8 to your HK2000.  A diamond 8 has a low sensitivity and with your HK's low
power, it will sound really weak.  Siguro yung powered subs mo lang ang magbibigay ng punch into your sound.
   I attest to that since I own a HK avr4000 and tried a diamond 8 set.   Using an  Infinity speaker with a 91dB sensitivity, the acceptable listening level on dvd was about -20 decibels against a -8 using a wharfedale diamond 8.
   The Diamond 8 sounds ok for the price,  but needs careful amp matching.

    This wharfedale 8 set sounds perfect in an NAD reciever but sounds bad with japanese recievers.  
    In my experience, the HK is better matched to a JBL or an Infinity speaker.

    Don't be tempted with the Diamond 8's low price or high rating.  Match it with your reciever.  But if you think it is the best, then go ahead.

     

TY  


I have Diamond 8s also.  They didn't sound good for music with the Yamaha RXV-430 for music.  The Yammies are rated at 65 watts.  However, they really started singing n two-channel stereo playing music with my NAD C340 Integrated amp which is actually only rated at 50 watts.  Its kind of odd I know.  But the NAD had much better control and musicality. I'll be using the Yamaha for HT anyway so sound isn't a big issue for me.

Jovi
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Aug 14, 2002 at 10:37 PM
Honestly I find the diamond 8.1s great for music, i'm aware of the power rating of my receiver so I have to expect that I have to be near the max volume of my receiver in order to achieve desirable listening levels. the sound is not distorted even if I'm near the max volume, and..no clipping! Since the harman kardon sounds great in stereo I saw the potential of the 8.1 for stereo music., which is why I plan to use it for an audio setup instead (8.1 with stands and a sub), I just need to get a NAD or rotel integrated amp. (the cheaper the better) anyone selling one ? Whats happening now kasi is parang integrated amp ang receiver ko since I am mostly listening to music instead of watching dvds. hehehe ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: madrigal on Aug 16, 2002 at 01:04 PM
To japjag:
   good choice.   The nad and rotel are very good uk designed amps.   I own an NAD 701 and 705 with a 25w and 50w rating and it sounds best with any speaker.  Even a Diamond 8.1 sounds loud. but if i hook it up with my H/k 4000 with a 60w rating, ang pangit. with no bass and body in the music.  
  NADs rating with their amps are low but if you compare it with other brands, it sounds louder and better.
  If I can just afford an NAD av reciever.  (P85,000???)   probably?

 
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jay_cee_em on Aug 16, 2002 at 05:15 PM

Honestly I find the diamond 8.1s great for music, i'm aware of the power rating of my receiver so I have to expect that I have to be near the max volume of my receiver in order to achieve desirable listening levels. the sound is not distorted even if I'm near the max volume, and..no clipping! Since the harman kardon sounds great in stereo I saw the potential of the 8.1 for stereo music., which is why I plan to use it for an audio setup instead (8.1 with stands and a sub), I just need to get a NAD or rotel integrated amp. (the cheaper the better) anyone selling one ? Whats happening now kasi is parang integrated amp ang receiver ko since I am mostly listening to music instead of watching dvds. hehehe ;D


Hi japjag  ;)

Before I get too far off-topic, let me just share a recently discovery.  If you are looking for a good  sounding integrated amp, try the old Marantz PM-4 (Esotec Series) integrated amp.  Its rated at 40W at 8 ohms, 80W at 4 ohms - but its much different when you listen to it.  Im one proud owner, and Im surprised it can easily drive my Dynaudio Audience 60s (4ohm, 86dB floorstanders).  I saw one posted at bidshot.com, try to audition it.  I found not much difference in musicality compared to new integrated amps at least three times its price.  ;)

Ciao!  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Aug 16, 2002 at 07:04 PM
yeah rotels have a nice av receiver too ::)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Aug 16, 2002 at 10:29 PM
Oh speaking of old integrated amps I might consider the older marantz amps too, madami sa pier hehehe  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: levi on Sep 05, 2002 at 10:50 PM
Reposting for Shine,


   which is better?

  Wharfedale 8.4 or Yamaha NS7390?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: shine on Sep 06, 2002 at 10:42 AM
Just need your advice before I buy One. I have already my yamaha rxv430
and im planning to have the fronts and center. Since my budget is less than
P10k only for the front, im considering to buy yahama or wharfedale. I already
heard the yamaha NS7390 and it sounds great, brilliant sound and just the right
bass. The cone is made of metallic-mica and has a nice finish. But considering
reviews, the wharfedale diamond 8's  is better.

Now I want advice from you guys based on experinced na lang since kayo ang
mas nakakaalam nito. Hope I can hear from you guys...thanks.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Sep 06, 2002 at 01:48 PM
I haven't heard of the 8.4 but I think it needs a lot of amp power, the wharfedale's sound better with high powered amps, and you might not appreciate it with your receiver right now..but I suggest you audition this one and the 8.3 before considering the yamaha and let your ears decide.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: shine on Sep 06, 2002 at 09:18 PM
I couldnt find a store where they have both the yamaha and wharfedale speakers. Can anyone suggest so that I can audition them at the same time?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 06, 2002 at 09:28 PM
We tried tweaking the crossover of the Diamond 8's and we produced a clearer and more pronounced midrange, and more defined bass, the highs were also improved.

If any of you guys need help with their Wharfedale 8's just send me a pm. ;D

nirvblakr ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Sep 06, 2002 at 10:55 PM
yup nirvblakr's right, laki ng savings nyo if you prefer kevlar drivers and on a budget  ;) You'll hear the difference I swear.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: levi on Sep 08, 2002 at 01:07 AM
Just need your advice before I buy One. I have already my yamaha rxv430
and im planning to have the fronts and center. Since my budget is less than
P10k only for the front, im considering to buy yahama or wharfedale. I already
heard the yamaha NS7390 and it sounds great, brilliant sound and just the right
bass. The cone is made of metallic-mica and has a nice finish. But considering
reviews, the wharfedale diamond 8's  is better.

Now I want advice from you guys based on experinced na lang since kayo ang
mas nakakaalam nito. Hope I can hear from you guys...thanks.

You can try  mission speakers M70 and B&W 300 series. It will fit your budget.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: shine on Sep 08, 2002 at 01:20 AM
Levi, I preferred to have a floor standing speaker, I think mission is too high for my budget. I guess their 77 series worth less than P30k. Maybe for my next upgrade I will go for it...
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 10, 2002 at 06:00 AM
shine-  If you are looking for a Yamaha floorstanding speaker we have one here model #NS-45.  Send me a PM or text me at 09175298004
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: AVDude on Sep 10, 2002 at 02:47 PM
Am planning to get a Diamond 8 DFS as my surround speakers.....
I would like to hear your opinions if its good or is it better just to get 8.1 and use it as rear speakers... Thanks!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: shine on Sep 15, 2002 at 11:25 AM
Need your advice:

Anyone here owns a Diamond 8.4? Mukhang di yata kaya nang Yamaha 430 ito. Ive been using the speaker for just a week at sa tingin ko hindi niya kayang ilabas yung true performance niya. Any suggestion kung may dapat ba akong baguhin, idagdag o palitan? Waiting for your help...

Thanks
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: torque on Sep 15, 2002 at 08:21 PM
shine sent you pm.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 22, 2002 at 11:41 AM
shine- sent you pm
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Skabyol on Sep 22, 2002 at 03:04 PM
Hi,
Where can i get a price quote for the wharfedales?
8.1
8.2
8.Center

I am choosing between Diamond 8s and Mission M73,M70,M7c2 any comments? How bout compared to KEF Q1.

Thanks.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: cybermms on Sep 22, 2002 at 06:43 PM
Hi,
Where can i get a price quote for the wharfedales?
8.1
8.2
8.Center

I am choosing between Diamond 8s and Mission M73,M70,M7c2 any comments? How bout compared to KEF Q1.

Thanks.

Diamonds as a package (8.3, 8.1, Center) are selling at P15k (less if you replace 8.3 with an 8.2).

Missions are a level higher than the Diamonds in terms of price / performance.

The KEF Q1's are comparable to Missions 78 series which is a level higher than the M70 series.

cybermms
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Oct 11, 2002 at 01:33 PM

Diamonds as a package (8.3, 8.1, Center) are selling at P15k (less if you replace 8.3 with an 8.2).

Missions are a level higher than the Diamonds in terms of price / performance.

The KEF Q1's are comparable to Missions 78 series which is a level higher than the M70 series.

cybermms

hi - where can i get this package?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: shine on Oct 11, 2002 at 06:18 PM
you can try ambassador at greenhills or shangrila. They have the cheapest price of wharfedale speakers. Try also listening style at megamall. One shop also at SM harrison has wharfedale package.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Oct 14, 2002 at 08:38 AM
you can try ambassador at greenhills or shangrila. They have the cheapest price of wharfedale speakers. Try also listening style at megamall. One shop also at SM harrison has wharfedale package.

thank you - will check them out
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sillyputty on Oct 21, 2002 at 06:19 PM
what receiver goes well with wharfedalespeakers?

Has anyone tried the 8.4? Is there any significant improvements from 8.3?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: shine on Oct 21, 2002 at 06:29 PM
I have a diamond 8.4, gamit ko na receiver is yamaharxv430. compatible din ito sa denon at onkyo na mga receivers.

Although malakas na ang 8.3, mas malakas pa rin ang 8.4. Mas pansin talaga kung compare mo silang dalawa side by side. Kaya ko naman napili ang 8.4 ay mas gusto ko talaga nang malakas ang bass kahit na may dalawa na akong sub which is the usadio512 at dtx na 15", tapos affordable pa yung price niya.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Oct 21, 2002 at 07:50 PM
quote from ambassador greenhills this afternoon:

8.1 - 4,700
8.2 - 5,950
8.3 - 6,700
8.4 - 8,700

ok na ba itong prices na ito or may itatawad pa? tulong naman - last price na daw eh. i'm looking at the 8.3 or 8.4, any other suggestions for the price range?

thanks
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: shine on Oct 21, 2002 at 08:30 PM
punta ka sa ambassador shagrila, the price of diamond 8.4 is P8,350
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LoBudget on Oct 26, 2002 at 12:18 PM
Parang ang laki ng difference ng presyo ng speakers dito at sa ibang bansa, paano nag kaganon?

Naka rate din yung speakers to handle up to 120W pero yung mga nakita ko dito panay 100W. Does anyone know why?

I know its kinda off topic, but where are the lowest priced yamaha recievers here? So far rx430 is 15,000 and the 620 or was 18,000 any other models which are cheap or stores with lower prices?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: madrigal on Oct 26, 2002 at 05:24 PM
Hi,
  Those prices for the yamaha are already low.  

  The Yamaha 430 with a Wharfe Diamond 8s are the cheapest with quality
HT you can buy.
 
   I personallly own a Diamond 8 center and a, 8.1 as surround. and so far
i am very satisfied with its sound and the price i paid for them.    
   Even though you get a B&W or dynaudio for more money,  the sound quality
would not be so noticable.     Unless you purchase expensive receivers or separates, then
you can hear those differences.  
    You are just paying the brand name and status of those expensive stuff.   The wharfedales
are the best for its price...........
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Oct 26, 2002 at 10:20 PM
The diamonds can be tweaked you know, you can add a crossover to them 8.1's and 8.2's and you will see a vastly improved midrange, the problem with the stock 8.1's and 8.2's is that the sound is restrained if you have weak amplifiers.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LoBudget on Oct 27, 2002 at 06:43 AM
punta ka sa ambassador shagrila, the price of diamond 8.4 is P8,350

Which are these? the fronts or rears?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LoBudget on Oct 27, 2002 at 01:17 PM
I know i have these in another thread, but do you think prices will noticably drop by december or shortly after that?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Oct 27, 2002 at 09:59 PM
prices might go down but not very likely, they are relatively cheap already you know.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: cvthunder on Oct 28, 2002 at 09:06 AM
i think the 8.1's have the best price/performance ratio among budget bookshelves. to my ears it's better than the 8.2.  this ratio gets even better when having an ht setup...and the way they're pricing the wharfs in the phils makes the peso look stronger against the dollar :-)  these are the reasons why i chose the wharfs over the missions although i also like the m72 (aside from the fact that i can position the 8.1 closer to the walls).

btw, how did you tweak the crossover john?



Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: aRujoN on Oct 29, 2002 at 03:15 AM
Personally, I think the Studio Acoustics speaker line of Dai-1chi sounds better than the Wharfedale D's. Before, I actually considered buying Wharfdale floorstanders as my first tower speakers because of their price. But after I auditioned the Studio Acoustics floorstanders, I changed my mind. The sound of the SA's sounded more defined than the Wharfedales. Why? Because when I peeped into the port hole it had crossover built into it. This convinced me to buy the speaker (and plus of the fact that it was cheaper ;D). Not bad for an entry level floorstander.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LoBudget on Oct 29, 2002 at 11:23 AM
Where and how much for those speakers?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Oct 29, 2002 at 07:39 PM
which is why you can tweak the diamonds by adding a crossover inside  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: aRujoN on Oct 31, 2002 at 02:11 AM
You can audition the SA at the Dai-1chi showroom at megamall. The price is around P6,000.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: lmerb on Nov 20, 2002 at 03:32 PM
ok lang ba gamitin yun diamond 8.1 para sa front?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Nov 21, 2002 at 06:50 AM
I use 8.1s for fron no problem, as long as the room is small.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: lmerb on Nov 21, 2002 at 01:44 PM
magkano na price ng wharfedale diamond 8.1 ngayon?
San Shop?

thanks
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Nov 21, 2002 at 08:01 PM
magkano na price ng wharfedale diamond 8.1 ngayon?
San Shop?

thanks

4,700 a pair last time i checked at ambassador appliances in shangri-la mall and greenhills
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sgc_wdi on Nov 29, 2002 at 10:34 AM
would u recommend changing bose acoustimass to wharfedale? any significant differences?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Jan 22, 2003 at 02:24 PM
Kayanin kaya nang Yamaha RXV 520 ang Wharfe 8.3?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: dexterc on Jan 22, 2003 at 02:31 PM
Kayanin kaya nang Yamaha RXV 520 ang Wharfe 8.3?


Bro Pa Tweak mo pwedeng pwede na yan.....pwede mo na kahit 80% ang volume mo he!he!! sa 220 ako 30% lang solb na ako eh  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Jan 22, 2003 at 04:24 PM
Kayanin kaya nang Yamaha RXV 520 ang Wharfe 8.3?


Bro Pa Tweak mo pwedeng pwede na yan.....pwede mo na kahit 80% ang volume mo he!he!! sa 220 ako 30% lang solb na ako eh  ;D

dex,

oo nga eh..sa 220 eh hindi hirap yung ampli natin kasi konting volume lang eh solve na. baka sa wharfe eh lumampas nang kalhati yung volume control para lumakas. sa 220 natin hindi man lang nag iinit yung ampli natin pero pareho lang sila nang  sensitivity eh 86
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: dexterc on Jan 22, 2003 at 04:48 PM
JASON,

Ayos na ba? kuha mo na yung binebenta?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Jan 23, 2003 at 01:47 AM
220?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ants on Jan 23, 2003 at 06:25 AM
220 - I think this is the yamaha set..4 satellites, 1 center, 1 sub
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Jan 23, 2003 at 06:33 AM
which is why you can tweak the diamonds by adding a crossover inside  ;D

diamond 8s lang ba ang kaya i-tweak?
what are the list of benefits you get?
sa likod ba nang speaker ang crossover or outboard sya?
what about other brands like b&w?
what's the prerequisite - dapat ba dalawang set
of speaker wire posts?

thanks!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 23, 2003 at 07:38 AM
which is why you can tweak the diamonds by adding a crossover inside  ;D

diamond 8s lang ba ang kaya i-tweak?
what are the list of benefits you get?
sa likod ba nang speaker ang crossover or outboard sya?
what about other brands like b&w?
what's the prerequisite - dapat ba dalawang set
of speaker wire posts?

thanks!

We take out the whole inboard crossover from the speaker and replace it with a better one to maximize the sound quality of the tweeters and the speaker drivers.  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Jan 23, 2003 at 08:59 AM
ahh the nsp220 sorry must be due to lack of sleep  ;D

anyway any speaker can be tweaked, sa diamond 8 kasi since budget speakers the 8.1's and 8.2's crossovers are not optimized kaya kailangan malakas amp mo to drive them properly, optimizing them lessens the load needed to drive the speakers.

As for the nsp220 with the yammies, the satellites for this speaker set has a lower power rating than the wharfedales kaya easier to drive or mas malakas at lesser volume, entry level receivers will have a harder time driving floorstanders due to less headroom. but tweaking the wharfedales would lessen the load needed  :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Jan 23, 2003 at 09:03 AM
dex,

di pa. but we agreed na mag trade kami. i just hope kayanin nang ampli ko yung wharf 8.3
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Jan 25, 2003 at 10:05 AM
which is why you can tweak the diamonds by adding a crossover inside  ;D


diamond 8s lang ba ang kaya i-tweak?
what are the list of benefits you get?
sa likod ba nang speaker ang crossover or outboard sya?
what about other brands like b&w?
what's the prerequisite - dapat ba dalawang set
of speaker wire posts?

thanks!

We take out the whole inboard crossover from the speaker and replace it with a better one to maximize the sound quality of the tweeters and the speaker drivers.  

Mel,

How about the Wharf 8.3? Kaya nyo rib ba i tweak?


Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ants on Jan 28, 2003 at 12:43 AM
i got my 8.3 tweaked... ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Jan 28, 2003 at 06:55 AM
which is why you can tweak the diamonds by adding a crossover inside  ;D

diamond 8s lang ba ang kaya i-tweak?
what are the list of benefits you get?
sa likod ba nang speaker ang crossover or outboard sya?
what about other brands like b&w?
what's the prerequisite - dapat ba dalawang set
of speaker wire posts?

thanks!

We take out the whole inboard crossover from the speaker and replace it with a better one to maximize the sound quality of the tweeters and the speaker drivers.  

thanks nirvblakr!

does this, in effect, increase the sensitivity/efficiency of the wharfs? i understand that it helps a lot for average amps. will it make a difference if one uses slightly above-average amps (200 wpc) to drive the wharfs?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Jan 28, 2003 at 08:06 AM
i got my 8.3 tweaked... ;D

ants,

Kay mel mo ba pina tweak yung wharfs mo?

Nirvblkr,

Bro sent u a pm about ur CD
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Digities on Jan 28, 2003 at 03:05 PM
say would anyone know if the 8.1s are magnetically shielded ?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Jan 28, 2003 at 04:34 PM
say would anyone know if the 8.1s are magnetically shielded ?

as long as they are beside your tv at a reasonable distance - 4 to 6 inches no problem.

but don't place them in front of the screen - as i found out the hard way  :'(. fortunately the damage disappeared after a couple of days after turning the tv off and leaving it unplugged  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Jan 28, 2003 at 04:43 PM
iceman,

How about the Diamond Center 8? siguro naman eh shielded yun?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: cpudle on Jan 28, 2003 at 05:06 PM
say would anyone know if the 8.1s are magnetically shielded ?

as long as they are beside your tv at a reasonable distance - 4 to 6 inches no problem.

but don't place them in front of the screen - as i found out the hard way  :'(. fortunately the damage disappeared after a couple of days after turning the tv off and leaving it unplugged  ;D

Hi Iceman90a,

Pa-butt in. Tanong lang tsong: you once owned wharfes 8.1 and now you have missions, what's the main difference you noticed in the sounds aside from the loudness due to different sensitivity? I know sound is subjective so what didn't you like about the wharfes--if there was anything you disliked? Thanks.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Jan 28, 2003 at 06:58 PM

Hi Iceman90a,

Pa-butt in. Tanong lang tsong: you once owned wharfes 8.1 and now you have missions, what's the main difference you noticed in the sounds aside from the loudness due to different sensitivity? I know sound is subjective so what didn't you like about the wharfes--if there was anything you disliked? Thanks.

mahabang storya:

i started with 8.1's & a diamond center (no surrounds).

bought a dq-12 (bitin sa bass yung 3 speaker)

was looking for fronts
- auditioned the 8.3 and 8.4
- auditioned m71 (galing ng sound mas buo sya from bass to highs, kaysa 8.1) cheaper than 8.3

bought the m71 for front - moved the 8.1 to rear

m71 sounded "differently" from diamond center eka nga ni d75c "tam-ber"

sold the diamond center bought a m7c1

kept thinking what if m73 front ko????

sold 8.1 - bought the m73

and that is the end of my story  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: d0ubletap on Jan 28, 2003 at 07:29 PM
iceman: saw ur pics on another thread, nice. great to see you've finally put together a complete (?) setup. hope u dont get bitten by the upgrade bug soon, hehehe.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Jan 28, 2003 at 07:53 PM
iceman: saw ur pics on another thread, nice. great to see you've finally put together a complete (?) setup. hope u dont get bitten by the upgrade bug soon, hehehe.

ayaw ko na!!! (actually ayaw na ni misis  ;D ) pero baka makasingit pa ng m7c2  ;D ;D

sulit marantz mo sa akin, pinas ka na ba? ano na set-up mo? sigurado big-time na  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: cpudle on Jan 29, 2003 at 09:50 AM

Hi Iceman90a,

Pa-butt in. Tanong lang tsong: you once owned wharfes 8.1 and now you have missions, what's the main difference you noticed in the sounds aside from the loudness due to different sensitivity? I know sound is subjective so what didn't you like about the wharfes--if there was anything you disliked? Thanks.

mahabang storya:

i started with 8.1's & a diamond center (no surrounds).

bought a dq-12 (bitin sa bass yung 3 speaker)

was looking for fronts
- auditioned the 8.3 and 8.4
- auditioned m71 (galing ng sound mas buo sya from bass to highs, kaysa 8.1) cheaper than 8.3

bought the m71 for front - moved the 8.1 to rear

m71 sounded "differently" from diamond center eka nga ni d75c "tam-ber"

sold the diamond center bought a m7c1

kept thinking what if m73 front ko????

sold 8.1 - bought the m73

and that is the end of my story  ;D

Ha ha laking gastos mo ha! Thanks for the info. I asked kasi I have the Wharfes 8.1 din and DQ-120. You confirmed my own observations which I needed kasi I'm just a newbie  and I still don't trust my ears. You're right medyo bitin yung bass pero I've been able to integrate it well (I think) with the DQ-120 after long tedious experiments. When I hear Low Freq it's as if its coming from the fronts and not from the sub--so no more bass gaps and boominess (I had to stuff the port with my daughter's stuff toy). As for the highs, yun nga problema ko pero actually I'd much rather like it this way kesa bright. Just a bit more power in the treble and I'd be totally content.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Jan 29, 2003 at 10:26 AM
the 8.1's strength is the midrange upper and lower freqs. are the cons, but at the price compared to much better speakers this is still a bargain :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: v0elker on Jan 29, 2003 at 10:28 AM
haha, good luck my friend. dito pa rin ako sing, wala pa din setup. i just got me a used set (ganda ng market dito for used stuff, well-taken care of and lotsa high-end gear) of kef kht-2005 sub/satellites combo pero la pa ko amp. been waiting months for the nad t762 av receiver which hopefully will arrive in the next 2 weeks.

im also planning to get maggies by the end o the year pag may pera (and pag indi ako ginulpi ni mrs). ill pass on the kef set to my dad and get him a marantz to go along with it.

ayaw ko na!!! (actually ayaw na ni misis  ;D ) pero baka makasingit pa ng m7c2  ;D ;D

sulit marantz mo sa akin, pinas ka na ba? ano na set-up mo? sigurado big-time na  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Feb 04, 2003 at 08:37 AM
whats a good rear speaker to match my wharfdale 8.1 fronts and center? I have a small room and use a yammy 430 .. Thanks  .. for tonality..does it have to be same series or same brand lang? thanks..cause i saw wharfdale rears parang triangle shape nya.... dont know the exact model.. wanted to know if it would match it. thanks

Your talking about the Wharfedale Diamond 8 DFS rear surround. U can use that as ur rear or Diamond 8.1 I thinke its better na pareho brand ang gagamitin mo on all of ur speakers para pare pareho yung timbre nila.

Im using wharf diamon 8.3 and nag iipon pa ako for 8.1 para gawing kong rear...
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: dexterc on Feb 04, 2003 at 08:51 AM
whats a good rear speaker to match my wharfdale 8.1 fronts and center? I have a small room and use a yammy 430 .. Thanks  .. for tonality..does it have to be same series or same brand lang? thanks..cause i saw wharfdale rears parang triangle shape nya.... dont know the exact model.. wanted to know if it would match it. thanks

Your talking about the Wharfedale Diamond 8 DFS rear surround. U can use that as ur rear or Diamond 8.1 I thinke its better na pareho brand ang gagamitin mo on all of ur speakers para pare pareho yung timbre nila.

Im using wharf diamon 8.3 and nag iipon pa ako for 8.1 para gawing kong rear...

Bro congrats sa new toys mo he!!he!!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sago on Feb 04, 2003 at 09:05 AM
iceman: saw ur pics on another thread, nice. great to see you've finally put together a complete (?) setup. hope u dont get bitten by the upgrade bug soon, hehehe.

ayaw ko na!!! (actually ayaw na ni misis  ;D ) pero baka makasingit pa ng m7c2  ;D ;D

sulit marantz mo sa akin, pinas ka na ba? ano na set-up mo? sigurado big-time na  ;D

bro pagbebenta mo yung m7c1 mo, pa reserve na!!! just pm me. hehehe...
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Feb 04, 2003 at 09:12 AM
dex,

thanks dex.. problema ko ngayon eh 8.1 for rears...wala na ako pang trade in. ehehehe..lalong wala na akong cash eheheh.

The 8.3 eh match na match sa JBL sub ko..ganda tumunog ngayon...and also dapat ayus yung speaker positioning. Cant wait to get the 8.1...di ko alam kung ano uunahin eh...upgrade o 8.1 sighhhhhhhh ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: killer_eyes on Feb 04, 2003 at 09:17 AM
fafa jason

madami ka namang pera eh kaya mo na yan ng sabay hehehe diba? congrats sa bagong speaker mo ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: dexterc on Feb 04, 2003 at 09:23 AM
fafa jason

madami ka namang pera eh kaya mo na yan ng sabay hehehe diba? congrats sa bagong speaker mo ;D

Bro killer,

kaya nga di pwede sa kanya yung dm303 mo..he!!he!! overkill yun na pang surround nya.Except kung gagamitin nya yung wharf na floorstanding nya na pang surround at main yung 303  ;D ;D pero di na kailangan ni jason yun..sa akin na lang talaga he!!he!! Di ba  bro jason?

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: killer_eyes on Feb 04, 2003 at 09:31 AM
hehehehe nde na daw kukunin ni jason yung 303 eh hehehe....dumidiskarte pa yan ng pambili ng ampli nya eh saka rears nya...naghahanap na nga ng matrona eh hehehe
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Feb 04, 2003 at 09:33 AM
dex,

sige na nga ehehehe..mag wharfedale na lang ako all the way..para maka tipid naman..babawi na lang ako sa AVR..anyway mura lang binebenta ni killer yung 303 nya inalok nya sa akin nang 3.5k ang pair neg. pa ( ;D ehehehehehe) dahilan kasi nya eh..mayaman naman daw sya at di nya masyado kailangan nang pera...

Mabait yang si killer..at galante pa ehehehe(bro, pag uwi mo sagot mo san mig light ehehehe). Iniisip nga nya kung bebenta nya rin yung yamaha sw320 nya nang 5k  sa akin eh at bibili daw sya nang 2 Yamaha SW1500 eh ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: dexterc on Feb 04, 2003 at 09:37 AM
dex,

sige na nga ehehehe..mag wharfedale na lang ako all the way..para maka tipid naman..babawi na lang ako sa AVR..anyway mura lang binebenta ni killer yung 303 nya inalok nya sa akin nang 3.5k ang pair neg. pa ( ;D ehehehehehe) dahilan kasi nya eh..mayaman naman daw sya at di nya masyado kailangan nang pera...

Mabait yang si killer..at galante pa ehehehe(bro, pag uwi mo sagot mo san mig light ehehehe). Iniisip nga nya kung bebenta nya rin yung yamaha sw320 nya nang 5k  sa akin eh at bibili daw sya nang 2 Yamaha SW1500 eh ;D ;D
He!!he!! Tama ka dyan bro..mag full wharf ka na lang pati rears mo.THanks in Advance kay bro killer sa 303 nya para sa akin he!!he!!

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Feb 04, 2003 at 11:06 AM
Bro. pag nag canvass ka nang 8.1 post mo dito para may idea ako kung magkano na lang ngayon ang 8.1.

Thanks
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: torque on Feb 04, 2003 at 01:41 PM
Bro. pag nag canvass ka nang 8.1 post mo dito para may idea ako kung magkano na lang ngayon ang 8.1.

Thanks

two weeks ago nagtanong ako sa ambassador, shangri-la ang price ng 8.1 is P4,550.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Feb 04, 2003 at 01:46 PM
Bro. pag nag canvass ka nang 8.1 post mo dito para may idea ako kung magkano na lang ngayon ang 8.1.

Thanks

two weeks ago nagtanong ako sa ambassador, shangri-la ang price ng 8.1 is P4,550.

Bro,

Thanks for the info...saan kaya mas mura?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: cpudle on Feb 04, 2003 at 03:53 PM
Bro. pag nag canvass ka nang 8.1 post mo dito para may idea ako kung magkano na lang ngayon ang 8.1.

Thanks

two weeks ago nagtanong ako sa ambassador, shangri-la ang price ng 8.1 is P4,550.

Bro,

Thanks for the info...saan kaya mas mura?

Sorry correction baligtad: 3.8K for center and 4.2K sa 8.1. Basta total 8K.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Feb 04, 2003 at 04:29 PM
Thanks cpudle
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Feb 04, 2003 at 05:51 PM
Mga Sir,

Just want to ask were do you set your speaker Large or small ba for Wharf 8.2 and 8.1?  Yamaha RVX620 amp ko I notice kasi pag large parang up front yun vocal compare to small na medyo laid back... which is better??

thanks
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Feb 04, 2003 at 06:54 PM
8.1 = 4,500 nalang sa shang

ako i put it on "large" tas center channel ko on "small" tas bass sa "sub only" . ok lang ba yun? 8.1 for fronts and the diamond center channel
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Feb 04, 2003 at 09:21 PM
Its better to set it to small if your amplifier is not that powerful, The idea here is to just let the midrange and high freq. to pass through the wharfs and just let the sub handle the bass, there might be a gap though if the cutoff freq of the receiver is high. If you set the speaker to large, it will treat the speaker as full range, more strain sa ampli. which is why mas mahina ang vocals
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mojako on Feb 05, 2003 at 03:56 AM
How many watts should my amplifier be if i'm to buy the 8.1s?  Currently my amp is 50w x 2 for the front (i will be using these speakers as mains).

And malaki ba talaga yung difference nito sa Mission M70 or M71, in terms of sound quality and clarity?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Feb 05, 2003 at 05:34 AM
m71 has higher sensitivity I think than the 8.1 but in terms of sound quality, its a tossup, I just prefer the sound of 8.1s in my setup, If I were to upgrade I will go b&w probably the floorstanding 600 series :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Feb 05, 2003 at 08:21 AM
Bakit pag sinet ko sa large yung Center speaker ko eh humihina ang output sa sub? but when i set the center speaker to small eh lumalakas ang sub? Bakit pag yung main and rear speakers ang naka large eh walang pag babago sa output nang sub pero pag center na ang ginawang large eh humihina?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Feb 05, 2003 at 08:42 AM
Bakit pag sinet ko sa large yung Center speaker ko eh humihina ang output sa sub? but when i set the center speaker to small eh lumalakas ang sub? Bakit pag yung main and rear speakers ang naka large eh walang pag babago sa output nang sub pero pag center na ang ginawang large eh humihina?

kasalanan ng receiver yan. umaandar yung crossover nya kaya yung bass signal nahahati depende sa setting ng front mo. pag large only the lower frequncies are sent to the sub. pag small - mas mataas nag freq range na pinapadala...
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Feb 05, 2003 at 09:05 AM
Bakit pag sinet ko sa large yung Center speaker ko eh humihina ang output sa sub? but when i set the center speaker to small eh lumalakas ang sub? Bakit pag yung main and rear speakers ang naka large eh walang pag babago sa output nang sub pero pag center na ang ginawang large eh humihina?

kasalanan ng receiver yan. umaandar yung crossover nya kaya yung bass signal nahahati depende sa setting ng front mo. pag large only the lower frequncies are sent to the sub. pag small - mas mataas nag freq range na pinapadala...

So this will not be a problem or is this normal on yamaha AVR? ngayon ko lang kasi na test na gawing large yung center speakers ko eh..any way i just set it to small an no problem naman eh.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Feb 05, 2003 at 09:32 AM
not a problem - pero maganda solusyon sa problema natin , mas magandang sub (aka mas mahal) para mas mababa ang freq na kaya

 ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Feb 05, 2003 at 10:05 AM
iceman,

tenks for the info bro. any way very reliable naman ang JBL ko para sa kakulangan nang wharf sa LFE eh..ehehehe
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: cpudle on Feb 05, 2003 at 10:22 AM
m71 has higher sensitivity I think than the 8.1 but in terms of sound quality, its a tossup, I just prefer the sound of 8.1s in my setup, If I were to upgrade I will go b&w probably the floorstanding 600 series :)

Initially I wasn't happy with the Wharfes 8.1 pero that I wanted to sell them asap. After researching the net I made some improvements that I'm so much happier now. My problem before with the highs were solved. Here's what I did:

1) Upgraded to IXOS 105 from generic
2) Got IXOS 6003 from 14g generic
3) In biwiring, I split the "+" and "-" instead of the previous setup na one pair goes to "+" terminal and then another goes to the "-" terminal. This supposedly reduced inductance and as a result I get better highs
4) Clipped the wire to exact length
5) Got a sub because the Wharfes can't go very low
6) Waited for break-in period


Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Feb 05, 2003 at 11:13 AM
will the wharfedale wh-2 rear speakers go well with wharfdale diamond 8.1 and diamond center channel??? thanks....

Same manufacturer...yes..it will
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mojako on Feb 05, 2003 at 05:09 PM
CPUidle,
Problem with the Highs?  Malakas ba or mahina?

How did you split your cables in your biwiring process?  Do you suggest I have them tweaked by Nivrblakr?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: cpudle on Feb 05, 2003 at 05:50 PM
CPUidle,
Problem with the Highs?  Malakas ba or mahina?

How did you split your cables in your biwiring process?  Do you suggest I have them tweaked by Nivrblakr?

Nung una parang mahina dating--I like it warm and smooth but I didn't want it to be overly smooth. Pag tumayo na ko mas lalong nabawasan yung highs. Para lumabas yung detail I had to fiddle with the tone controls---something I hate to do.

I read something kasi that says inductance affects mainly the highs. I have 2 pairs of wire so I can bi-wire. Dati one pair (so two strands which in normal wiring should be positive and negative) goes to the "+" terminal of the HF and the LF and then the other pair goes to the "-" terminal of the HF and LF. I read that this does not minimize the inductance. Dapat daw kasi one pair is split for + and - and then the other ganun din.

As for tweaking, I'm happy naman with the way things are (Ignorance is bliss!) so baka di ko na itweak. Pero I don't doubt Nirvblakr or John when they said they can improve the 8.1 by adding an x-over. Your call I guess.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Feb 05, 2003 at 09:46 PM
If you have a pretty beefy amp. you don't need to have it tweaked, the only reason to tweak it is to lessen strain on the amp. Biwiring or biamping is an alternative to tweaking the wharfs.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mojako on Feb 06, 2003 at 12:58 AM
Thank you very much for the info CPUidle.  Follow up question lang about the biwiring.  Do you mean na using 1 pair of cable, isa sa +, yung isa sa - ? Hindi  1 pair of cable, both sa + ?

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ants on Feb 06, 2003 at 02:13 AM
when i got my diamonds, i was pretty contentm not happy but content with the money i spent.

i got the 8.3s and ngo-ngo talaga...i had them tweaked (A AUDIO) right away and they sounded much better...got my centers tweaked...R

However, I think I can still do some tweaking of my own by boosting the x-over point to around 2-2.5khz.

Cable change did some magic as well...i am now using kimber kable 4TC
(http://www.kimber.com/4tc-medium.jpg)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Feb 06, 2003 at 08:13 AM
My wharf 8.3 sounds good naman..problem lang is the bass...napakahina..pangit pag wala kang sub woofer. any way when i turn on my JBL sub..dun lumabas yung magic...for the price not bad talaga yung wharf. if ur planning on using wharfs as ur speaker a good sub is a must.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: cpudle on Feb 06, 2003 at 10:35 AM
Thank you very much for the info CPUidle.  Follow up question lang about the biwiring.  Do you mean na using 1 pair of cable, isa sa +, yung isa sa - ? Hindi  1 pair of cable, both sa + ?



Yup. Kasi di ba sa binding post ng 8.1 magkatabi yung dalawang black (-) and dalawang red (+). Its so covenient na isang pair na wire sa black and isang pair sa red pero better kung split na lang sila--kumbaga kailangan the wire running from the speaker to the receiver terminals ang kapuluput nila dapat eh di nila kabaro. Dun lang sila naghihiwalay sa receiver terminals depending on their polarity.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Dracula on Feb 07, 2003 at 09:05 PM
My wharf 8.3 sounds good naman..problem lang is the bass...napakahina..pangit pag wala kang sub woofer. any way when i turn on my JBL sub..dun lumabas yung magic...for the price not bad talaga yung wharf. if ur planning on using wharfs as ur speaker a good sub is a must.

How much for the jbl sub? Wharfedale has does powercube subs ok ba siya if paired with the diamonds.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Feb 08, 2003 at 12:07 PM
will the wharfedale wh-2 rear speakers go well with wharfdale diamond 8.1 and diamond center channel??? thanks....

Same manufacturer...yes..it will


Although the same brand ang diamond at Wh2, they uses different material, polypropylene drivers  ang WH2 while the Diamonds are Kevlar. I dont know the difference.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Feb 08, 2003 at 12:28 PM
My wharf 8.3 sounds good naman..problem lang is the bass...napakahina..pangit pag wala kang sub woofer. any way when i turn on my JBL sub..dun lumabas yung magic...for the price not bad talaga yung wharf. if ur planning on using wharfs as ur speaker a good sub is a must.

How much for the jbl sub? Wharfedale has does powercube subs ok ba siya if paired with the diamonds.


Got my JBL sub from a trade in sa isang member dito model is PSW1200...bought in 1997 for 500 $.. magaling namang mag perform  at malakas eh..so ayus na ayus.. ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: stan on Feb 10, 2003 at 02:53 PM

I have a pair of 8.3s and the center channel.

I bought it based on the combination of price and the What Hi-Fi (and Stuff Magazine) reviews.

For those of you who feel bitin or that its too cheap-sounding, you may want to consider the 8.4s, which have separate mid and mid-bass.

There is also the Pacific Series which is of a higher line.

Please note that these are BUDGET speakers that dont sound like budget speakers. The mere fact that they are being compared to B&W and other brands costing more than double or triple the price of the diamonds is testament enough.

Final assesment - If you're an audiophile and can afford it get something more pricey by all means, but if you want audio pedigree without paying too much for it OR you just want to watch movies, then get the Wharfedales.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: BuLLeT on Feb 10, 2003 at 04:28 PM
Hi, does anyone happen to know if the Pacific series Wharfs are available already at Ambassador?

Also, any idea about their prices:

EVO-8, EVO-10, EVO-20, EVO-30, EVO-40


Lastly, will Onkyo TX SR600 be a good match with the Wharfs 8.3 or 8.4?

Thanks.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ants on Feb 11, 2003 at 12:30 AM
ambassador doesn't have that series..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Feb 12, 2003 at 03:35 AM
just get an 8.3 and a good sub for the onkyo txsr600
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Dracula on Feb 13, 2003 at 08:06 PM
Hindi ba maganda yung diamond na 8.2? has anyone tried this model? haven't read the whole thread but i rarely see any body considering the 8.2 why is that? ???
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mojako on Feb 13, 2003 at 10:56 PM
Dracula,
According to reviews on the net, mas maganda daw yung 8.1s
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Dracula on Feb 13, 2003 at 11:04 PM
Noticed from the thread that the wharfedale's need a strong amp.  Is the denon 1603 enough? saw the specs says 110 watts on 6ohm impedance from these specs looks like the denon is enough but need somebody's opinion from experiences.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Feb 14, 2003 at 08:26 AM
dracula,

bro im using Wharfedale 8.3 and is being driven by Yamaha RXV520..no problem sa pag drive nya..hindi pa ako lumalampas sa kalahati nang volume kasi masyado nang malakas in stereo and in Movies..so i bet kayang kaya yan nang Denon 1603..

Hope this helps
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Feb 14, 2003 at 08:28 AM
Im planning to get the Wharfs 8.2 for my rears..para halos pareho sila nang 8.3 ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Dracula on Feb 14, 2003 at 08:32 AM
Im planning to get the Wharfs 8.2 for my rears..para halos pareho sila nang 8.3 ;D

May bi-polar speakers ang wharfedale yung diamond dfs na try mo na ba yun? mas ok ba ang bi-polar for rears than just a smaller speaker?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Feb 14, 2003 at 10:20 AM
Dracula,

yup meron sila..yung WHarfedale DFS bi polar speakers about 4k++..pero mas gusto ko yung 8.1 or 8.2 para mas maganda pag naka 5 channel stereo ako sa music ehehehe
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Dracula on Feb 14, 2003 at 07:05 PM
Dracula,

yup meron sila..yung WHarfedale DFS bi polar speakers about 4k++..pero mas gusto ko yung 8.1 or 8.2 para mas maganda pag naka 5 channel stereo ako sa music ehehehe

ok thanks
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: cactus on Feb 16, 2003 at 01:39 AM
whats a good rear speaker to match my wharfdale 8.1 fronts and center? I have a small room and use a yammy 430 ..

For the benefit of those with the same question...

Ambassador Virra Mall (based on my observation) uses a pair of what they call "egg sat" speakers for the rears when they audition the diamond 8's.  They are priced just above 2k (and the mid to high 1k's on other shops).  

Now, just curious ... would you guys consider a daichi set up as an alternative to a diamond 8 set up?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mojako on Feb 21, 2003 at 02:51 AM
Finally got my 8.1s.  After 4 days, I traded them in for a 2 week old tweaked version (tweaked by Mel/Anthony, courtesy of Mdsaint3).  And here is what I have to say:

* Vastly Improved clarity and detail.
* Mas malakas sya ng konti.
* Nawala yung slight muddy characteristic nya
* Comparable na sya sa mga mamahalin na brands
* Highs and Mids were more noticable

Definetely more value for money.  Ang ganda nya tumunog ngayon.  Suggestion ko sa lahat na hindi pa nag papa tweak - I PA TWEAK NYO NA!

BTW, I did listening tests on this, before and after the tweak.  Listened to various DVDs and DVD concerts (Jewel and Eagles).

Naka bi-wire nga pala sya before and after, using 12ga jave yuan cables.  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: koba on Feb 21, 2003 at 12:44 PM
mojako, sent you a pm.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mojako on Feb 21, 2003 at 09:13 PM
PM answered Koba
Title: Diamond 8.2 or 8.3?
Post by: mojako on Mar 21, 2003 at 05:32 PM
I currently have the 8.1s as my fronts and i'm planning to transfer them to the rear.  What should I get?  8.2 or 8.3? I don't really want to spend on stands, and the price difference on these 2 models is only 800 - 900php.
Title: Re:Diamond 8.2 or 8.3?
Post by: jofkevski on Mar 21, 2003 at 05:50 PM
Hi mojako!

you already answered your own question! what else cant be put on a stand but 8.3!

If I were you, and you have a good subwoofer, just buy another pair of 8.1 for the front, and your'e better off with your sound (provided as I said, you have a good subwoofer)

ENJOY!
Title: Re:Diamond 8.2 or 8.3?
Post by: losi_phile on Mar 21, 2003 at 05:54 PM
 Get the 8.3!!!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: chester on Mar 24, 2003 at 03:08 PM
magkano na mga bro ang diamond center ngayon?  seen one at park square 1 at P3,780.   sa greenhills kaya?  

mdsaint3,  how's the performance of the diamond center w/ your 430?  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Mar 24, 2003 at 04:09 PM
magkano na mga bro ang diamond center ngayon?  seen one at park square 1 at P3,780.   sa greenhills kaya?  

mdsaint3,  how's the performance of the diamond center w/ your 430?  

Bro i owned a Yamaha 520 dati and uses a Diamond Center..all i can say is ang ganda tumunog ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: losi_phile on Mar 24, 2003 at 05:36 PM
Listening Room (MegaMall) also sells it for Php3,780.00
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: chester on Mar 24, 2003 at 07:59 PM
thanks losi_phile and courage.    i know that you(courage) own an 1803 already! way to go bro!  medyo, nakaipon na ren sa wakas to buy me a decent speaker.  paisa-isa muna.   diamond center ngayong linggo (sana!) and sub and rears in the next few months...hirap talaga pag tinamaan ka ng HT bug, di ka makatulog! he,he,he...
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Mar 24, 2003 at 08:03 PM
magkano na mga bro ang diamond center ngayon?  seen one at park square 1 at P3,780.   sa greenhills kaya?  

mdsaint3,  how's the performance of the diamond center w/ your 430?  

Ok performance nun wharfs with the 430...but im using onkyo ts500 now :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: chester on Mar 24, 2003 at 08:06 PM
mdsaint3, thanks!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Mar 24, 2003 at 08:10 PM
sure chester..check out ambassador in shangrila..so far the cheapest place of all the places ive canvassed
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: chester on Mar 24, 2003 at 08:15 PM
thanks bro, will drop by there tomorrow...
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Dracula on Mar 26, 2003 at 08:28 PM
Pwede ba gamitin yung center ng wh-2 for the rears in a 6.1 set-up  going to use wh-2, diamond 8.2 and the diamond cednter with a marantz sr4300
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Mar 26, 2003 at 11:06 PM
i think ganyan kay courage.. ask him.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: levi on Mar 27, 2003 at 12:44 AM
Anyone looking for original England made Wharfedale, Im selling mine. Its a bookshelve speaker. I will match it with any present wharfedale.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Mar 27, 2003 at 08:44 AM
Pwede ba gamitin yung center ng wh-2 for the rears in a 6.1 set-up  going to use wh-2, diamond 8.2 and the diamond cednter with a marantz sr4300

Pare nung naka Denon 1803 pa ako..i use Wharfs 8.3 for my fronts, WHarf diamond center for my center and WH2 Center for my Rear center.. no problema..ganda pala pag may Rear center ka..feeling mo talaga eh may kunga ano mang nagalaw sa likod mo..ehehehe

Ngayon wala nang silbi kasi balik 5.1 ako ehehehehe..planning to sell it pag makakaluwas na ulit ako
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Mar 27, 2003 at 08:45 AM
Anyone looking for original England made Wharfedale, Im selling mine. Its a bookshelve speaker. I will match it with any present wharfedale.

SIr levi, do u have a picture of the Diamond 8.4? Im interested
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Dracula on Mar 27, 2003 at 09:00 AM
Pwede ba gamitin yung center ng wh-2 for the rears in a 6.1 set-up  going to use wh-2, diamond 8.2 and the diamond cednter with a marantz sr4300

Pare nung naka Denon 1803 pa ako..i use Wharfs 8.3 for my fronts, WHarf diamond center for my center and WH2 Center for my Rear center.. no problema..ganda pala pag may Rear center ka..feeling mo talaga eh may kunga ano mang nagalaw sa likod mo..ehehehe

Ngayon wala nang silbi kasi balik 5.1 ako ehehehehe..planning to sell it pag makakaluwas na ulit ako

Ok ba yung WH-2? so yung surround mo yung bi-polar na kasama ng set?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Mar 27, 2003 at 09:05 AM
Nope i only bought the WH2 Center hindi kasama yung bipolar kasi dito sa isang member ko nabili yung WH2 Bnew coz he already has the wharf Diamond center..im still using my old philips 20watts surroud speakers for my surrounds :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: BuLLeT on Mar 27, 2003 at 05:11 PM
Courage,

Thanks for the Pm. It is a great view from first hand experience with your Wharfs paired with different AVRs.

Hope you are really enjoying your speakers with their soul mate... the NAD........ ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: levi on Mar 27, 2003 at 08:31 PM
Anyone looking for original England made Wharfedale, Im selling mine. Its a bookshelve speaker. I will match it with any present wharfedale.

SIr levi, do u have a picture of the Diamond 8.4? Im interested

I will take some pics and I will email it to you
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: chester on Mar 28, 2003 at 06:20 PM
sure chester..check out ambassador in shangrila..so far the cheapest place of all the places ive canvassed

got the diamond center at P3650 (ambassador shangrila)... thanks mdsaint3!

maganda nga tunog... sub naman ang target ko.   thank you guys!

 
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Dracula on Mar 28, 2003 at 07:06 PM
Help Guys

I'm deciding on what fronts to use which is better the 8.1 or the 8.2?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mojako on Mar 28, 2003 at 07:59 PM
chester,
intayin mo hanggang ma break in yan (60-100hrs ata).  Pag hindi ka na kontento sa sound, i pa tweak mo kina Nirv
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: chester on Mar 31, 2003 at 11:52 AM
chester,
intayin mo hanggang ma break in yan (60-100hrs ata).  Pag hindi ka na kontento sa sound, i pa tweak mo kina Nirv

mojako,   ok.  thanks for the advise bro.   pakinggan ko maige.  pero, so far satisfied naman ako sa tunog.  i'm planning to bi-wire it.   advisable ba 'to?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Mar 31, 2003 at 01:39 PM
yeah try mo bi-wire..too see if may difference.. naka bi-wire ang 8.3's ko... there are also threads here re:bi-wiring. ...  check your pm
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: chester on Mar 31, 2003 at 07:00 PM
thanks bro.  i'll try to bi-wire it but would need to buy addl cables (ouch!).   i've replied to your PM as well...
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 01, 2003 at 05:06 PM
Dracula,

Sir for me 8.1 for front iba ang clarity niya compare to 8.2 syempre dapat may sub ka.

Chester,

Sir I have tried bi-wiring my 8.1 or 8.2 it really gives the extra effort.  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Dracula on Apr 01, 2003 at 05:15 PM
Dracula,

Sir for me 8.1 for front iba ang clarity niya compare to 8.2 syempre dapat may sub ka.

Chester,

Sir I have tried bi-wiring my 8.1 or 8.2 it really gives the extra effort.  

Yup i agree with you the 8.1 has much better clarity and its shortcomings with regards to bass can be compensated with a sub ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Dracula on Apr 06, 2003 at 06:38 PM
Pwede ba gamitin yung center ng wh-2 for the rears in a 6.1 set-up  going to use wh-2, diamond 8.2 and the diamond cednter with a marantz sr4300

Pare nung naka Denon 1803 pa ako..i use Wharfs 8.3 for my fronts, WHarf diamond center for my center and WH2 Center for my Rear center.. no problema..ganda pala pag may Rear center ka..feeling mo talaga eh may kunga ano mang nagalaw sa likod mo..ehehehe

Ngayon wala nang silbi kasi balik 5.1 ako ehehehehe..planning to sell it pag makakaluwas na ulit ako

how much will you be selling the center of the wh-2 package?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Apr 09, 2003 at 01:03 PM
dracula,

sent u a pm.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sgc_wdi on Apr 11, 2003 at 11:48 AM
anong model ng wharfs na pwedeng gamitin for center, and how much kaya?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Apr 11, 2003 at 12:48 PM
anong model ng wharfs na pwedeng gamitin for center, and how much kaya?

You can use a Wharfdale Diamond 8 Center nasa 4k or less ata yun(ito ang gamit ko) or a much smaller Wharfedale WH2 Center(Meron din ako nito kaya lang di ko nagamit) :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sgc_wdi on Apr 11, 2003 at 01:19 PM
thanks, how much yung WH2 center? ok kaya pairing ng wharfs with bose?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sgc_wdi on Apr 16, 2003 at 02:59 PM
malaki ba difference ng diamond 8 center sa WH-2 center in terms of sound quality?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mojako on Apr 16, 2003 at 03:11 PM
mas buo lang yung sound ng diamond 8 center as compared to the wh-2.  Medyo manipis and dating ng wh-2
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sgc_wdi on Apr 16, 2003 at 03:25 PM
ic thanks, read your review bro on some other website on WH-2 center :)

anyway, so I'd better go with Diamond 8 center right? would it work well with Bose Acoustimass modules?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: enygma on Apr 16, 2003 at 03:51 PM
ic thanks, read your review bro on some other website on WH-2 center :)

anyway, so I'd better go with Diamond 8 center right? would it work well with Bose Acoustimass modules?

i think mahihirapan kang maghanap ng center speaker that would match your acoustimass speakers. better if you will replace your front speakers as well and make your existing speakers as surrounds.  :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sgc_wdi on Apr 16, 2003 at 07:40 PM
ic thanks, read your review bro on some other website on WH-2 center :)

anyway, so I'd better go with Diamond 8 center right? would it work well with Bose Acoustimass modules?

i think mahihirapan kang maghanap ng center speaker that would match your acoustimass speakers. better if you will replace your front speakers as well and make your existing speakers as surrounds.  :)

ic thanks... I don't think I have the budget now to replace my fronts... I guess I'd just have to look for an affordable center that would match well with the acoustimass speakers :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: enygma on Apr 16, 2003 at 07:56 PM
Quote

ic thanks... I don't think I have the budget now to replace my fronts... I guess I'd just have to look for an affordable center that would match well with the acoustimass speakers :)

Quote

full range kasi ang mabibili mong center speaker kahit anong brand pa siya. ang laki kasi nung gap with regards to frequency of acoustimass to a full range speaker. if you saw the review of an acoustimass in the net, nasa 13 khz na iyung maximum frequency niya while a "true" speaker naglalaro from 50hz up to 20,000 khz. minsan lumalagpas pa ito up to 28,000 khz katulad nung isang model ng dynaudio. i think if you'll use a center speaker like this wharfdale, baka matabunan lang niya iyung fronts mo which is your acoustimass. it would be better na mag-save ka na lang muna para makabili ka na rin ng fronts mo to complement the center speaker you want. or better ask nirvblakr. siguradong may center spekaer sila na match sa acoustimass set-up mo. alam kong gusto mo na ring mamaximize iyung bagong receiver mo. :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mojako on Apr 16, 2003 at 09:05 PM
Or
i pa adjust mo kina Mel yung x-over ng WH-2 para mag match sa bose speakers mo
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: nerveblocker on Apr 17, 2003 at 06:37 AM
sgc_wdi-  Maybe you might want your center speaker custom made to match your Bose Acoustimass modules.

Just pm me if you are interested..... ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sgc_wdi on Apr 17, 2003 at 09:58 AM
Quote

ic thanks... I don't think I have the budget now to replace my fronts... I guess I'd just have to look for an affordable center that would match well with the acoustimass speakers :)

Quote

full range kasi ang mabibili mong center speaker kahit anong brand pa siya. ang laki kasi nung gap with regards to frequency of acoustimass to a full range speaker. if you saw the review of an acoustimass in the net, nasa 13 khz na iyung maximum frequency niya while a "true" speaker naglalaro from 50hz up to 20,000 khz. minsan lumalagpas pa ito up to 28,000 khz katulad nung isang model ng dynaudio. i think if you'll use a center speaker like this wharfdale, baka matabunan lang niya iyung fronts mo which is your acoustimass. it would be better na mag-save ka na lang muna para makabili ka na rin ng fronts mo to complement the center speaker you want. or better ask nirvblakr. siguradong may center spekaer sila na match sa acoustimass set-up mo. alam kong gusto mo na ring mamaximize iyung bagong receiver mo. :)


ic enygma thanks, correct me if I'm wrong, pero di ba ang center speaker, mostly for dialog and vocals lang, matatabunan ba niya yung mga acoustimass modules that way?

also, na mamaximize ba talaga ng mga speakers yung 20khz na range nila, usually ba talaga umaabot sila dun?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sgc_wdi on Apr 17, 2003 at 09:58 AM
Or
i pa adjust mo kina Mel yung x-over ng WH-2 para mag match sa bose speakers mo

mojako, ano yung x-over?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sgc_wdi on Apr 17, 2003 at 09:59 AM
sgc_wdi-  Maybe you might want your center speaker custom made to match your Bose Acoustimass modules.

Just pm me if you are interested..... ;D

nirv, will send u pm :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: enygma on Apr 17, 2003 at 11:10 AM

Quote

ic enygma thanks, correct me if I'm wrong, pero di ba ang center speaker, mostly for dialog and vocals lang, matatabunan ba niya yung mga acoustimass modules that way?

also, na mamaximize ba talaga ng mga speakers yung 20khz na range nila, usually ba talaga umaabot sila dun?
Quote

most of the effects and dialogs sa center speaker nanggagaling ang lahat ng ito. kaya it's better to have the same brand of center and front speakers para tonally matched sila. iyung mga new models ng mga speaker manufacturers ngayon, mga above 20khz na ang maximum frequency nila. you can benefit from these speakers if your playing sacd. based iyon sa mga nabasa ko.  :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sgc_wdi on Apr 18, 2003 at 07:07 AM
ah ic... so normally on movies di naman aabot yung center ng 20khz right... anyway, if I really need to make the fronts and center tonally the same, pwede ko rin gamitin yung bose as center, then yung bibilhin kong additional speaker ang magiging rear center ko...

plano ko kasi is yung bagong speaker ang center, then lahat bose acoustimass modules na...
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: enygma on Apr 18, 2003 at 12:40 PM
ah ic... so normally on movies di naman aabot yung center ng 20khz right... anyway, if I really need to make the fronts and center tonally the same, pwede ko rin gamitin yung bose as center, then yung bibilhin kong additional speaker ang magiging rear center ko...

plano ko kasi is yung bagong speaker ang center, then lahat bose acoustimass modules na...

pre, sent you a pm.  :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: lazeeb0y on Apr 19, 2003 at 12:38 AM
ic thanks, read your review bro on some other website on WH-2 center :)

anyway, so I'd better go with Diamond 8 center right? would it work well with Bose Acoustimass modules?

i think mahihirapan kang maghanap ng center speaker that would match your acoustimass speakers. better if you will replace your front speakers as well and make your existing speakers as surrounds.  :)

ic thanks... I don't think I have the budget now to replace my fronts... I guess I'd just have to look for an affordable center that would match well with the acoustimass speakers :)

hi. i might be selling my bose vcs-10 center speaker. i'm quite sure it would be timbre-matched w/ your acoustimass.

pm me if you're interested or sms me at 0917-2447149.  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: bigbird2323 on May 09, 2003 at 04:03 AM
Hi wharfedale owners,give me naman your insights if given the chance that you'll build your system again from scratch.would you guys still choose the wharfs or would you go for missions even if it takes a piece by piece acquisition.is the mission's price premium really worth it.I'm deciding between the two.please help,I'm pairing it with a marant 4300.since my place is really small about 25 sqm and an actaull viewing area of only15 sqm

Wharf
diamond 8.1
diamond center
wh2 surround
wh2 surround center

mission
m71
m7c1
m70
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on May 09, 2003 at 08:16 AM
Hi wharfedale owners,give me naman your insights if given the chance that you'll build your system again from scratch.would you guys still choose the wharfs or would you go for missions even if it takes a piece by piece acquisition.is the mission's price premium really worth it.I'm deciding between the two.please help,I'm pairing it with a marant 4300.since my place is really small about 25 sqm and an actaull viewing area of only15 sqm

Wharf
diamond 8.1
diamond center
wh2 surround
wh2 surround center

mission
m71
m7c1
m70

Im using wharf 8.3 and wharf diamond center, wharf isnt that bad, kelangan mo lang talaga nang magandang sub coz talagang bitin na bitin sa bass ang wharfs, people here said na mahina din ang highs nang wharfs, i agree pero yun eh kung di bagay ang amp na ginagamit mo, may binabagayan kasing amp ang wharfs.

In my experience labas na labas ang highs nang wharfs using Yamaha, Nad and HK nung nag audition ako nang HK, but nung nagpalit ako nang Denon 1803 nawala yung highs nya at hindi clear ang salita sa center compared to Yammy, NAD and HK. I dont know about marantz and wharfs combi i think u should audition the combi.

Marantz and Mission combi, swak na swak, heard the mission being driven by Marantz at Spectra and the sound is Very good.

But its just me...iba iba tayo nang pandinig...its up to ur ears to decide, so i suggest u go there and audition.

Then balitaan mo na lang kami
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on May 09, 2003 at 08:24 AM
mission is the safer bet for your receiver although mas mahal at mas matagal mabuo. I like the wharfs kasi pag high current ang amp mo, labas ang potential niya, the 4300 although rated at 70~80 watts per channel may be a good match sa 8.1, just get a sub if ht is your thing the missions will be better thats just me :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: levi on May 10, 2003 at 01:21 AM
IMO go for the Mission. Its worth it.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jofkevski on May 10, 2003 at 09:35 AM
I agree with you Courage.

Bigbird,
Since you have now the marantz (true also with Denon) amp, the best speaker to get is the mission. The choice is more on the matching to your amp. You might be disappointed with diamonds using marantz amp.

Am using all diamond 8.1+sub to Yamaha RX-v630
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: losi_phile on May 10, 2003 at 11:31 PM
Bigbird : Better ask those people using marantz, kung anong speakers ang gamit nila para more or less di ka maliligaw sa pagpili.

I'm using Wharfs 8.3, 8.1. and Center and my AVR is Pioneer VSX-D509S (Model 2000 pa). Magandang match but talagang kailangan ng sub.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Audioboy on May 11, 2003 at 09:45 AM
Bigbird,

IMO go for the Mission. I followed levi's advice, yan tuloy ang saya saya ko.  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 11, 2003 at 03:34 PM
Bigbird,

Pre used to own Wharf 8, 8.1 & 8.2 ok sila neutral sound for HT or Music but If you want your wharf to really sing you should have a powerful amp paired with it or a high current amp.  

Currently only have the Diamond 8.1 I love its sound tapos bought Mission C7c1 and M73i paired with HK ok na ok din..

Pre better go to spectra may Marantz , Mission & Wharfedale sila so you can audition on the spot.  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on May 12, 2003 at 10:12 AM
Bigbird,

Pre used to own Wharf 8, 8.1 & 8.2 ok sila neutral sound for HT or Music but If you want your wharf to really sing you should have a powerful amp paired with it or a high current amp.  

Currently only have the Diamond 8.1 I love its sound tapos bought Mission C7c1 and M73i paired with HK ok na ok din..

Pre better go to spectra may Marantz , Mission & Wharfedale sila so you can audition on the spot.  


Im just a bit confused..what does high current amp mean? any example? I understand what a high power amp. Is a high current amp like the ones of onkyo?or yamaha?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on May 12, 2003 at 11:07 AM
Im just a bit confused..what does high current amp mean? any example? I understand what a high power amp. Is a high current amp like the ones of onkyo?or yamaha?

I cut this from another forum and hope this helps.. :)

High-Current Amplification--

Power ratings (watts/ch) can be very confusing in that high-power amplifier ratings don't always mean that you are getting the best sound.

Power, typically measured in Watts, is an equation of Voltage x Current. Both the voltage and current output of an amplifier will vary between manufacturers and models.

High voltage amplifiers typically require smaller power supplies and provide very little current output (low-current). High current power amplifiers, on the other hand, provide forceful power (by implementing robust power supplies)using current as a driver with low voltage levels. Thus, high current amplifiers usually will provide better sound than high voltage amplifiers.

In terms that may make better sense, when power is applied to an electric train (not a toy train), the locomotive is driven by the current. When power is supplied to a speaker, a high-current amplifier will more accurately and forcefully drive the larger speaker magnets, those of the woofers. The speaker's woofers are used for reproduction of the very difficult to power low frequencies.

For this reason, when an identical pair of speakers are run on a low-end, low-current AV receiver and a higher-end high-current system (of equal or lessor power ratings), the speakers on the lower-current receiver will sound tinny while the speakers on the high-current System will sound more full and richer.

Along with the higher current available in the high-current receives is the ability handle the requirements of lower-impedence speakers (nominal 4ohm loads versus the easier to push higher impedience speakers, nominal 8ohm load), or multiple pairs of speakers (critical for our multi-speaker AV systems).

In short (and simply) the higher the current your recievers are able to produce (and maintain) the better your speakers will sound and the more flexible you will be able to be in speaker choice (the best speakers are almost exclusively low impedence 4ohm speakers).
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jofkevski on May 12, 2003 at 11:31 AM
Hi MDSAINT3,

Forget about high current amp. The matching is more on how amp design their amplification (not how powerful).

You see some people say an amp provide bright/warm sound. this means medyo ma-treble. The other school is that their amp is laidback (medyo tago ng konti ang treble). Some say yamaha or some high current amp is bright or warm. Some say Denon/Onkyo/marantz are laidback. this has been the findings of many lab testers. For us listener, we have our own taste.

Sa speaker side naman, the findings I gathered are the following. Wharf sounds neutral (sa iba, when comparing it to mission, they will say wharf is bitin sa treble). Mission and some other speakers put a slight emphasis on treble (so compared it with wharf, they will say maganda treble performance). All this comparison, mind you is fully dependent on what amplifier is in use when you tried to listen to them (again because amps are designed differently).

So matching wise, yamaha is best paired with wharf and other high current amp. mission is best paired with Onkyo/denon/marantz. This is because they complemented each other. Think if you try to match mission (slight emphasis on treble) with bright (or accurate) sounding amp (medyo emphasize ang treble) - sakit tenga mo because both emphasize treble - so nagmultiply ang treble sound mo.

I hope this put into right perspective why you do matching.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 12, 2003 at 02:22 PM
jofkevski

Thanks hehehe for elaborating  ;D  and yup its more of matching speaker and AVR yan.. plus budget
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jerix on May 12, 2003 at 04:18 PM
In SM Fairview, they are pairing their Pioneer VSXD811s-s with a big Wharf speaker--- i dont only know if this is the 8.4 valued at 13T plus..

i think very good ang matching nila considering that the 811s-s has an RMS speaker output power of 120 x 6. This is me..my ears are not yet trained to hear what is really good or bad sound ---  ;D has anyone tried listening to these stuff in SM?-- if u have time, u may listen to it, then prob'ly post your personal review here ---  ;)

 
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mojako on May 12, 2003 at 09:42 PM
More or less 8k lang yung diamond 8.4, dapat.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 13, 2003 at 04:42 PM
Jerix

Pre I think its not diamond 8.4 yun model nya saw one also at SM north
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jerix on May 14, 2003 at 07:53 AM
yeah HANS,

that big wharf costs around 13t and it sounded well with the pioneer vsxD811s-s, at least to my ears-- ;D I am presently using that same model of receiver kaya m really interested on your review on the performance of  that pioneer-wharf combi at sm--  ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Audioboy on May 14, 2003 at 08:12 AM
is yamaha a high current amp? One thing i know is that HKs are high current amps. When do you say that the current of an amplifier is high? whats the usual figure ba?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Jairus on May 14, 2003 at 09:49 AM

So matching wise, yamaha is best paired with wharf and other high current amp.

Will HK2550 be a good match to Wharfedale then?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jofkevski on May 14, 2003 at 01:24 PM
Some pinoydvd members have tested wharf with HK and they affirmed the matching. Try to search within the past threads of the actual review. Of course, your taste will matter. Spectra at park Square 1 can do the actual test for your satisfaction.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on May 14, 2003 at 02:07 PM
Will HK2550 be a good match to Wharfedale then?

Para sa akin yes, kapag 8.1 - 8.3 use a very good subwoofer, dnt know about the 8.4
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Archangel on May 14, 2003 at 08:16 PM
I've heard the Wharfedale 8.3s with Yamaha *-430 and the muddiness that people talk about was very evident.  Avoid this combo if music will take up more of your listening/viewing time.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: nels76 on May 14, 2003 at 11:14 PM
I cut this from another forum and hope this helps.. :)

High-Current Amplification--

Power ratings (watts/ch) can be very confusing in that high-power amplifier ratings don't always mean that you are getting the best sound.

Power, typically measured in Watts, is an equation of Voltage x Current. Both the voltage and current output of an amplifier will vary between manufacturers and models.

High voltage amplifiers typically require smaller power supplies and provide very little current output (low-current). High current power amplifiers, on the other hand, provide forceful power (by implementing robust power supplies)using current as a driver with low voltage levels. Thus, high current amplifiers usually will provide better sound than high voltage amplifiers.

In terms that may make better sense, when power is applied to an electric train (not a toy train), the locomotive is driven by the current. When power is supplied to a speaker, a high-current amplifier will more accurately and forcefully drive the larger speaker magnets, those of the woofers. The speaker's woofers are used for reproduction of the very difficult to power low frequencies.

For this reason, when an identical pair of speakers are run on a low-end, low-current AV receiver and a higher-end high-current system (of equal or lessor power ratings), the speakers on the lower-current receiver will sound tinny while the speakers on the high-current System will sound more full and richer.

Along with the higher current available in the high-current receives is the ability handle the requirements of lower-impedence speakers (nominal 4ohm loads versus the easier to push higher impedience speakers, nominal 8ohm load), or multiple pairs of speakers (critical for our multi-speaker AV systems).

In short (and simply) the higher the current your recievers are able to produce (and maintain) the better your speakers will sound and the more flexible you will be able to be in speaker choice (the best speakers are almost exclusively low impedence 4ohm speakers).


Hey Courage,

I know where you got this post - from h1pst3r of ecoustics.

Am i right?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on May 15, 2003 at 08:10 AM
nels,

yup :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 15, 2003 at 12:47 PM
Julsp,

Pre yun latest model ng Yamaha claims High current na yun X40 series bases on there website.

Jarius,

Pre HK and Wharf galing pre!!  :o :o :o
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Audioboy on May 15, 2003 at 01:35 PM
hans adrian,

thanks man. :o ::) ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Jairus on May 15, 2003 at 02:04 PM
Jarius,

Pre HK and Wharf galing pre!!  :o :o :o

I agree with you.  Demoed the HK2550 this lunchtime at Spectra Park Square paired with the 8.3 (no sub) and to my untrained ears the sound is impressive, very smooth and warm, and the bass is also good (at least in music, was not able to demo in HT due to time constraints  ;D).  I was also able to listen to the HK paired with Klipsch bookshelves (don't know the model), before I requested the salesperson to hook-up the 8.3s, and although its way out of Wharfedales' price range, the sound difference is not very significant (of course, its just me).
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on May 15, 2003 at 02:29 PM
I agree with you.  Demoed the HK2550 this lunchtime at Spectra Park Square paired with the 8.3 (no sub) and to my untrained ears the sound is impressive, very smooth and warm, and the bass is also good (at least in music, was not able to demo in HT due to time constraints  ;D).  I was also able to listen to the HK paired with Klipsch bookshelves (don't know the model), before I requested the salesperson to hook-up the 8.3s, and although its way out of Wharfedales' price range, the sound difference is not very significant (of course, its just me).


Pre im using HK5500 and Wharf 8.3, ang galing nang combi pre...ganda tumunog...
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Jairus on May 15, 2003 at 03:25 PM
Pre,how much kuha mo sa 5550 mo? hanggang 2550 lang kasi budget ko eh  :'( do you think it can drive the wharfes to reference levels? and the 2550 has no 5.1 input, should this matter?

I have yet to demo the marantzsr4300/mission combination before I finally decide, hopefully, this weekend.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on May 15, 2003 at 03:31 PM
Pre,how much kuha mo sa 5550 mo? hanggang 2550 lang kasi budget ko eh  :'( do you think it can drive the wharfes to reference levels? and the 2550 has no 5.1 input, should this matter?

I have yet to demo the marantzsr4300/mission combination before I finally decide, hopefully, this weekend.

Pare hindi AVR 5550 ang sa akin kundi AVR5500, wala pa ditong AVR5550, anyway got mine for 34,500...

If i where u ill get the higher model AVR3550, dagdag ka lang ata nang 3k, so konting konti na yun,

And yes yakang yaka nyang i drive yung wharfs, dont underestimate its power pare, malakas ang HK. Dati tuwing makikita ko power rating nang HK turn off ako..pero nung narinig kong tumunog boommmm...ang lakas pala... :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Jairus on May 15, 2003 at 03:56 PM
Thanks pre, will take a look at the 3550 (at the risk of being thrown out of the kulambo ;D), walang available sa Spectra eh.  Actually the entry-level HK is already the highest among the entry-level receivers I'm considering so adding another 3T would be a bit stiff.  But after hearing it sing (with Wharfes at that!) seems like its worth it.  Somebody please talk me out of this  ;D.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on May 15, 2003 at 04:05 PM
Thanks pre, will take a look at the 3550 (at the risk of being thrown out of the kulambo ;D), walang available sa Spectra eh.  Actually the entry-level HK is already the highest among the entry-level receivers I'm considering so adding another 3T would be a bit stiff.  But after hearing it sing (with Wharfes at that!) seems like its worth it.  Somebody please talk me out of this  ;D.

Pare ako hanggang ngayon yung mga latay ko sa katawa eh di pa nagaling..eheheheh....

The good thing about wharf is u can use its kevlar drivers as shield sa baril ni esmi ehehehehehe ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Dracula on May 15, 2003 at 04:15 PM
Pare hindi AVR 5550 ang sa akin kundi AVR5500, wala pa ditong AVR5550, anyway got mine for 34,500...

If i where u ill get the higher model AVR3550, dagdag ka lang ata nang 3k, so konting konti na yun,

And yes yakang yaka nyang i drive yung wharfs, dont underestimate its power pare, malakas ang HK. Dati tuwing makikita ko power rating nang HK turn off ako..pero nung narinig kong tumunog boommmm...ang lakas pala... :)

Ano difference ng 3550 and the 2550?  For the longest time i've been thinking of going 6.1 (marantz sr4300) but my love for these hk receivers have been stopping me.  Courage ok pa rin ba ang 5.1?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on May 15, 2003 at 04:41 PM
Ano difference ng 3550 and the 2550?

HK 2550
No 5.1 analog input
40watts/channel; 50 watts in stereo mode
High Current 25 Amps


HK 3550
With 5.1 Analog Input
60 watts/ channel; 70 watts in stereo mode
High Current 30 Amps
EzSet™

All other features are the same.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on May 15, 2003 at 04:45 PM
Ano difference ng 3550 and the 2550?  For the longest time i've been thinking of going 6.1 (marantz sr4300) but my love for these hk receivers have been stopping me.  Courage ok pa rin ba ang 5.1?

Oks na Oks  pa rin ang 5.1, I watched Airforce 1 again kagabi, yung scene na hinahabol sila nang russian migs. Ang galingggggggggg

HK 2550 - 50 watts * 2, 40 watts * 5
              - DTS, DD, DPL2

HK 3550 - 70 watts * 2, 60 watts * 5
               - DTS,DD,DPL2
                - 6 channel direct input
                - OSD

Pareho silang 192khz ang DAC
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Dracula on May 15, 2003 at 04:50 PM
Oks na Oks  pa rin ang 5.1, I watched Airforce 1 again kagabi, yung scene na hinahabol sila nang russian migs. Ang galingggggggggg

HK 2550 - 50 watts * 2, 40 watts * 5
              - DTS, DD, DPL2

HK 3550 - 70 watts * 2, 60 watts * 5
               - DTS,DD,DPL2
                - 6 channel direct input
                - OSD

Pareho silang 192khz ang DAC

What's the 6-channel direct input for?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sillyputty on May 15, 2003 at 05:14 PM
dracula...
6 channel input-> pwede mong gamitin ang amp ng HK kung meron kang external decoders.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Dracula on May 15, 2003 at 05:20 PM
dracula...
6 channel input-> pwede mong gamitin ang amp ng HK kung meron kang external decoders.


You mean pwede siya for dts-es and dd-ex in the future kung may decoder ka na tama ba?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Audioboy on May 15, 2003 at 05:30 PM
Oks na Oks  pa rin ang 5.1, I watched Airforce 1 again kagabi, yung scene na hinahabol sila nang russian migs. Ang galingggggggggg

HK 2550 - 50 watts * 2, 40 watts * 5
              - DTS, DD, DPL2

HK 3550 - 70 watts * 2, 60 watts * 5
               - DTS,DD,DPL2
                - 6 channel direct input
                - OSD

Pareho silang 192khz ang DAC

what do you mean by 192khz ang DAC?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on May 15, 2003 at 06:03 PM
You mean pwede siya for dts-es and dd-ex in the future kung may decoder ka na tama ba?

No, kasi 5.1 input (lang) yun. To be able to have a DTS-ES and DD-EX, you must have at least 6.1. At the same time, HK 3550 does not have pre-outs (even pre-outs for surround back), so hindi talaga masusuport ng DTS-ES, DD-EX and 6 channel.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on May 15, 2003 at 06:16 PM
what do you mean by 192khz ang DAC?

DAC is Digital to analog converters. It means it will convert the digital signal to analog in order for the receiver output the sound to speakers (decoded to analog).

For example you have a source (a DVD-Audio, SACD, etc.) that has a 192Khz encoded audio frequency, then the DAC will process and convert the it to analog.

For the case of Harman, 192khz/24-bit ang DAC nya, Marantz 4300, Denon 1*03 series, yamaha *30 and even the *40 series uses 96khz/24-bit.


Quote from D75C:
The more khz and more bits, the better the decoding for the audio soundtrack. The Clock (expressed in Khz) is the audio bandwidth and the amount of bits (20 or 24) is the audio resolution.

 The objective of the DAC is to convert those 0s and 1s into an analog waveform. The more points you plot in your graph, the smoother your audio signal will be.

DVD soundtracks whether dolby digital or DTS, are often 96-20. Super Audio CDs are the ones who really take advantage of the 192-24 resolution.



More info here:
http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=11;action=display;threadid=10689;start=msg168355#msg168355

and

http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=11212;start=msg173055#msg173055
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 15, 2003 at 06:49 PM
Dracula,

Pre for me 5.1 still ROCKS!!!  :o :o 6.1/7.1 pwede rin pero later na yan

Courage,

Kahit may latay ok pa rin  ;D ;D HK!!!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on May 15, 2003 at 07:12 PM
wag na magisip bili na ng hk and wharfs hehehe ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: stacey_77 on May 18, 2003 at 01:42 PM
mga HT gurus,

advice naman po sa HT set up(ignoramus pako...)...if i buy a pair of wharfedale diamond 8.3's (floorstanders na ito diba?) ....do i still need a pair of 8.1's for bookshelves to go with it? tsaka would it match my hw2 center speaker na ba? (eto palang meron ako eh.hehehe)

I'm planning to build my HT piece by piece coz i cant afford to buy all the components in one go...based on the reviews here,  the HK and wharf combo is perfect...also yamaha and wharf pretty much ok din daw ang combi, though i think mas afford ko ang yamaha..mejo namamahalan ako sa HK e. ano po maadvice nyo? thanks and more power!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ramble_on on May 18, 2003 at 02:10 PM
hi all. i just came from 'listening in style' and auditioned some wharfedales; 8.1s and a modus center (this is an earlier model than the diamond center) connected to an rxv-530. the wharfes are really great for their size (most especially the price).  don't let the bookshelfs fool you, they are capable of spewing out some serious s**t!

though i noticed that the treble (or highs) were a bit more pronounced when listening to audio cds thus confirming what the resident gurus here say (or, were my ears pre-conditioned by what i have reading here... ???)

but for video purposes (and small bedrooms), i guess the wharfes are a good choice. i got a quotation of 7k+ for the bookshelfs and center. would anyone know of a shop that might offer a lower price?

and lastly, would anyone care to donate (read - sell an rxv-530 to a poor newbie?  ;).

btw, this was my first time to audition something. best...

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 18, 2003 at 04:23 PM
Stacey 77,

I'm not a guru here but may I suggest that when you try to buy your first HT its better to start with a good AVR that YOU LIKE THE SOUND and not the featured then look for a good paired of fronts like Diamond 8.3 tapos a center note the FRONT and CENTER should at least have same brand this is to minimize tone in balance yun rear/ surround pwede naman later kung may extra cash ka na pre or use your old speaker sa mini compo.. marami naman good combo for Wharfedale aside from Hk and Yamaha you can also consider Onkyo and Marantz 4300.

Ramble on

Sir try ko check out the assorted buy and sell section baka meron good AVR for sale... ;D    
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: van_wilder on May 18, 2003 at 09:22 PM
hi all. i just came from 'listening in style' and auditioned some wharfedales; 8.1s and a modus center (this is an earlier model than the diamond center) connected to an rxv-530. the wharfes are really great for their size (most especially the price).  don't let the bookshelfs fool you, they are capable of spewing out some serious s**t!

though i noticed that the treble (or highs) were a bit more pronounced when listening to audio cds thus confirming what the resident gurus here say (or, were my ears pre-conditioned by what i have reading here... ???)

but for video purposes (and small bedrooms), i guess the wharfes are a good choice. i got a quotation of 7k+ for the bookshelfs and center. would anyone know of a shop that might offer a lower price?

and lastly, would anyone care to donate (read - sell an rxv-530 to a poor newbie?  ;).

btw, this was my first time to audition something. best...


ramble on
if the quotation you got for wharf 8.1 and diamond center is 7+ that is a very good price already i got mine from two different shops and cost me 8++, considering i did a pretty good canvassing already. these wharfs sound very good!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on May 18, 2003 at 11:19 PM
i think diamond center is around 3,800
diamond 8.1 should be around 4,550

around 8,600... if below 8k..thats really cheap na...  better make sure din ..


the price you got i think was for the modus center? get a diamond center IMHO
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Jairus on May 19, 2003 at 09:22 AM
van_wilder,

di ba you're currently using a Wharf/marantz combo?
how's the sound? review naman...i'm considering this same combination or an hk/wharfe combi (medyo mas mahal lang; na-audition ko na and maganda tunog).  Can't find an av shop carrying both marantz and wharfes...sa spectra out-of-stock ang 4300.

thanks,

Jairus
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Dracula on May 19, 2003 at 09:39 AM
van_wilder,

di ba you're currently using a Wharf/marantz combo?
how's the sound? review naman...i'm considering this same combination or an hk/wharfe combi (medyo mas mahal lang; na-audition ko na and maganda tunog).  Can't find an av shop carrying both marantz and wharfes...sa spectra out-of-stock ang 4300.

thanks,

Jairus

the listening room at megamall has the sr4300 (15.5k) and the wharf's although they only have the 8.1, 8.3 and the center.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Jairus on May 19, 2003 at 10:26 AM
thanks dracula! i'll check it out :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: stacey_77 on May 19, 2003 at 10:56 AM
Sir Hans,

thanks for the suggestions, ill also try to audition the two brands you mentioned.  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on May 19, 2003 at 11:22 AM
......and lastly, would anyone care to donate (read - sell an rxv-530 to a poor newbie?  ;).

btw, this was my first time to audition something. best...

The Yamaha 530 (black) is now on sale. Price is Php 13.8K.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on May 19, 2003 at 11:30 AM
mga HT gurus,

..advice naman po sa HT set up(ignoramus pako...)...if i buy a pair of wharfedale diamond 8.3's (floorstanders na ito diba?) ....do i still need a pair of 8.1's for bookshelves to go with it? tsaka would it match my hw2 center speaker na ba? (eto palang meron ako eh.hehehe)


Mas maganda kung the same brand and series ang speakers mo especially the fronts and the center, dapat match ang tonal characteristics nila. I'm not saying na hindi pwede ang wH2 center speaker with the 8.3 fronts, you can use it as your center speakers, if you like the sound then stay from it.

For best results, it is recommended that all front speakers be of the same type, with identical or similar driver units. This will deliver smooth pans across the front sound stage as the action moves from side to side.
Your center channel speaker is very important as over 80 % of the dialog from a typical motion picture emanates from the center channel. It should possess similar sonic characteristics to the main speakers.

Surround channel speakers need not be identical to the front channel speakers, but they should be of high quality.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 19, 2003 at 12:42 PM
Jarius,

Kung Out of stock spectra ng Marantz 4300 you can try auditoning 5300 I know same wattage lang sila but more features yun 5300..  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ramble_on on May 19, 2003 at 01:08 PM
@mdsaint3, sorry for giving out the wrong figures. i called listening in style and the price they gave me for the center was indeed for the older modus model (3300). diamond center is at 3780 and the 8.1s are at 4650.

checked ambassador ghills pero they're prices were a bit higher; combined price was something like 400 bucks more (maybe they included room for haggling pa).

@philander, rxv-530s are indeed on sale at 13.8k. you think this is in preparation for the arrival of the 40 series?

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on May 19, 2003 at 01:20 PM
@philander, rxv-530s are indeed on sale at 13.8k. you think this is in preparation for the arrival of the 40 series?

No, because the Gold 530 is still on its regular price.

The one really on sale is the 630, about less than Php 18K. This one I think was put on sale in preparation for the *40 series. 630 and *40 series are almost the same in features except for the 630 is DTS-ES compatible (matrix only, not discreet) and an older model compared to *40 series.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Dracula on May 19, 2003 at 01:27 PM
The Yamaha 530 (black) is now on sale. Price is Php 13.8K.

saang store naka sale yung 530? may balita ba kayo sa mga new yammie models kung kailan dating dito sa pinas
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on May 19, 2003 at 01:31 PM
dracula,

sent you pm.

-philander-
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ramble_on on May 19, 2003 at 01:31 PM
the 530's are on sale at listening room, listening in style, home theatre...
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mojako on May 20, 2003 at 02:10 AM
sale rin denon 1602 ata, 15.9k.  
Yung marantz daw drop na daw ng spectra from their products, sabi ng sales man nila
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Dracula on May 20, 2003 at 07:58 AM
sale rin denon 1602 ata, 15.9k.  
Yung marantz daw drop na daw ng spectra from their products, sabi ng sales man nila

I passed by their shop yesterday mayroon pa silang 5300 and 6300.  Ano daw reason why they dropped marantz from their products?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ras1842 on May 20, 2003 at 09:49 AM
Roughly magakano ang 6300?  and specs.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on May 20, 2003 at 09:52 AM
Roughly magakano ang 6300?  and specs.

Nasa 29k+ yata yan,

100 watts * 6
OSD
192kh DAC
DD EX DTS ES DPL2 DTS NEO6 etc..
PreOut on all Channel
Learning Remote
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on May 20, 2003 at 10:04 AM
sale rin denon 1602 ata, 15.9k.  
Yung marantz daw drop na daw ng spectra from their products, sabi ng sales man nila

1603 is 16K.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Audioboy on May 20, 2003 at 01:21 PM
1603 is 16K.

1603 is 15,900 while 1803 is 21,700
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on May 20, 2003 at 02:03 PM
1603 is 15,900 while 1803 is 21,700

Bumaba na rin pala ang 1803 :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Dracula on May 20, 2003 at 02:13 PM
Bumaba na rin pala ang 1803 :)

promo lang siya its not a permanent markdown and only select stores have lowered the price ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on May 20, 2003 at 02:17 PM
promo lang siya its not a permanent markdown and only select stores have lowered the price ;)

Ohhhhh thanks :)

Dexterc,

ano pa inaantay mo, sale pala ang Denon...bili na ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Dracula on May 20, 2003 at 02:19 PM
Courage

Diba naka 1803 ka before with wharfdale speakers ok ba?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on May 20, 2003 at 02:29 PM
Courage

Diba naka 1803 ka before with wharfdale speakers ok ba?

I dont like the combi., di ko gusto ang tunog parang may kulang on both movies and music, but its just me,  my wharfs sounds good on Yamaha(RXV520), NAD(T752) and now HK5500 :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on May 20, 2003 at 02:38 PM
hk ka na? grabe....how do u dispose ur old receivers?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on May 20, 2003 at 02:42 PM
hk ka na? grabe....how do u dispose ur old receivers?

eehehehehehe Secret ehehehehe ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on May 20, 2003 at 02:48 PM
I dont like the combi., di ko gusto ang tunog parang may kulang on both movies and music, but its just me,  my wharfs sounds good on Yamaha(RXV520), NAD(T752) and now HK5500 :)

HK5500  :)  sabi ko na nga amoy upgrade  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on May 20, 2003 at 02:50 PM
HK5500  :)  sabi ko na nga amoy upgrade  ;D

shshhhhhhh ehehehehe ihate that stupid SARS thing ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 20, 2003 at 03:00 PM
How about Wharfedale Diamond 8.4 my price mark down kaya??

Courage,

Musta sir yun Hk5500 break in na ba??
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on May 20, 2003 at 03:27 PM
di sars yan... kayamanan yan..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on May 20, 2003 at 03:37 PM
How about Wharfedale Diamond 8.4 my price mark down kaya??

Courage,

Musta sir yun Hk5500 break in na ba??


Eehehehehe...di ko na tinotorture test coz i havnt seen any problem with this one, though im using it for about 5-6 hours a day and 8 hours during saturdays and sundays straight...di ko mapigilang di ko buksan pag nasa bahay ako...ehehehehe...mahina man or malakas ang volume ang galing...and the power ohhhhh..my wife is gonna kill me kapag nakita nya yung electric bill namin ehehehehe ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on May 20, 2003 at 03:38 PM
di sars yan... kayamanan yan..

Ubos na ang kayamanan...ang natitira na lang na marami ako eh ang mga sugat dulot nang latigo ni misis...and those bullet holes dun sa pinagtataguan kong cabinet ehehehehe ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Dracula on May 20, 2003 at 03:39 PM
Courage

bakit mo pinalitan yung NAD?  All praises ka doon sa receiver tapos gulat na lang kami nag palit ka nanaman :o
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 20, 2003 at 03:50 PM
Courage

Pre just received my month electric bill GRABE!!! big improvement sa sound means very big improvement din sa electricity  :'( :'(

Pre good for you ako huhuhuh Saturday night lang 5 hours max.

Drakula,

may secret yan on why the change change  ;D ;D joke lang sir courage

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on May 20, 2003 at 03:52 PM
Courage

bakit mo pinalitan yung NAD?  All praises ka doon sa receiver tapos gulat na lang kami nag palit ka nanaman :o

Bro, soundwise maganda talaga ang NAD, ask any NAD user here..talagang maganda tumunog ang NAD.

Sent u a pm bro. :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on May 20, 2003 at 03:52 PM
Courage

Pre just received my month electric bill GRABE!!! big improvement sa sound means very big improvement din sa electricity  :'( :'(

Pre good for you ako huhuhuh Saturday night lang 5 hours max.

Drakula,

may secret yan on why the change change  ;D ;D joke lang sir courage



Ehehehehe...eh ikaw kumusta na ang ampli mo ehehehe? ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Dracula on May 20, 2003 at 04:02 PM
Courage

Sent you a pm

 :) ;) :D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 20, 2003 at 04:22 PM
Courage

GANDA talaga pre!! nothing comes close hehehe kahit si Misis... yesterday walang magawa nagbalik ako ng mono wiring inalis ko bi-wired ko sa speakers pre tapos watch earth wind and fire concert with my son..

Drakula,

Sir I agree NAD produced great sound.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on May 20, 2003 at 04:26 PM
Courage

GANDA talaga pre!! nothing comes close hehehe kahit si Misis... yesterday walang magawa nagbalik ako ng mono wiring inalis ko bi-wired ko sa speakers pre tapos watch earth wind and fire concert with my son..

Drakula,

Sir I agree NAD produced great sound.

Medyo out of topic tayo pero i just cant stop my self from loving that AVR ;) ehehehe
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Dracula on May 20, 2003 at 05:27 PM
Where can I get the Diamond 8.3 ang price ng ambassador is 6.9k ok na ba yon?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on May 20, 2003 at 08:42 PM
basta nad avr ko buhay na buhay at paganda ng paganda ang tunog hehehe maswerte lang siguro ako sa unit ko ;D anyway I tried a diamond 8.1 with my receiver and wow! too bad 86 dB lang sensitivity nya kaya di masyadong malakas pero sound quality is superb considering you can get the speakers cheap, mapapamahal ka naman sa receiver hehe ;D. I also tried a klipsch sb2...tama ka courage ganda nga ng combination and the bass is surprising considering na bookshelf sya(pero more than twice sa presyo ng 8.1). :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on May 20, 2003 at 10:44 PM
Where can I get the Diamond 8.3 ang price ng ambassador is 6.9k ok na ba yon?

doubt it if you can get a lower price than ambasador for diamond products..  they re the cheapest out there..except for pre owned diamonds..

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: v0elker on May 21, 2003 at 08:02 AM
ot na, pero same here, buhay na buhay din nad ko. kahit sub/sat lang gamit ko eh okay yung sound, whereas when i tried a yam with them speakers, masyadong bright and unbearable.

basta nad avr ko buhay na buhay at paganda ng paganda ang tunog hehehe maswerte lang siguro ako sa unit ko ;D anyway I tried a diamond 8.1 with my receiver and wow! too bad 86 dB lang sensitivity nya kaya di masyadong malakas pero sound quality is superb considering you can get the speakers cheap, mapapamahal ka naman sa receiver hehe ;D. I also tried a klipsch sb2...tama ka courage ganda nga ng combination and the bass is surprising considering na bookshelf sya(pero more than twice sa presyo ng 8.1). :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on May 21, 2003 at 08:09 AM
john, voelkr,

good to hear that, malas lang talaga ako, two times in less than 2 months sighhhh..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: v0elker on May 21, 2003 at 08:35 AM
courage: hirap nga ng pinagdaanan mo no, di bale happy ka naman ngayon eh. ika nga ng mga veterans dito, isnt that whats it all about?  :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on May 21, 2003 at 08:37 AM
courage: hirap nga ng pinagdaanan mo no, di bale happy ka naman ngayon eh. ika nga ng mga veterans dito, isnt that whats it all about?  :)

Oo nga eh, siguro mga 6 times akong lumuwas nang lumuwas, sa pagluwas pa lang eh 7k na nagastos ko.

Pero ang dami kong natutunan ehehehehe :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on May 21, 2003 at 05:46 PM
1603 is 15,900

Just saw a shop (Sound Dimension) yesterday selling Denon 1603 for just 15.5K at ParkSquare 1.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: banzai on May 21, 2003 at 06:32 PM
Courage,

Can you also send me a pm regarding your problems with the NAD? I just want to check if these are the same problems that I've seen in other forums.

I was seriously considering getting the T762 before, but from the complaints I've seen, I'm now starting to look at HK.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mojako on May 21, 2003 at 11:01 PM
philander,
sale nga yung 1603 ngayon. Pati sa shang 15.9k benta nila.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Archangel on May 23, 2003 at 03:35 PM
I got to audition the 8.1s today with 2 combos:

A-Pioneer cd-player (PD-*07,Pioneer amp (A-109 40wpc)
B-Onkyo DVD player,Harman Kardon 670 amp

Having had no experience whatsoever with good quality stuff, I was pleasantly surprised by the 8.1s.  They sounded quite loud with those 2 combinations at near 11 o'clock on the volume dial.  I was expecting it to sound quite muffled but the highs were very evident.  I surmise that this is also because of the Pioneer cd-player and the Onkyo dvd player.  .
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on May 23, 2003 at 04:07 PM
I got to audition the 8.1s today with 2 combos:

A-Pioneer cd-player (PD-*07,Pioneer amp (A-109 40wpc)
B-Onkyo DVD player,Harman Kardon 670 amp

Having had no experience whatsoever with good quality stuff, I was pleasantly surprised by the 8.1s.  They sounded quite loud with those 2 combinations at near 11 o'clock on the volume dial.  I was expecting it to sound quite muffled but the highs were very evident.  I surmise that this is also because of the Pioneer cd-player and the Onkyo dvd player.  .

I believe that is because of the Harman Kardon Amplifier.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on May 23, 2003 at 04:22 PM
I believe that is because of the Harman Kardon Amplifier.

I Agree :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Jairus on May 28, 2003 at 03:43 PM
Yup its Hk alright.  Just bought an HK3550 yesterday and paired it with the 8.3s and ang galing talaga ng tunog!

I would have bought the Diamond center but I'm just not sure whether its magnetically shielded (can't find any info on the web on this). I have space limitation now so the only place I can put it is on top of the TV. pwede kaya ito?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on May 28, 2003 at 03:54 PM
Yup its Hk alright.  Just bought an HK3550 yesterday and paired it with the 8.3s and ang galing talaga ng tunog!

I would have bought the Diamond center but I'm just not sure whether its magnetically shielded (can't find any info on the web on this). I have space limitation now so the only place I can put it is on top of the TV. pwede kaya ito?

Pare the Diamond Center is Shielded, i know kasi yan gamit kong center tapos nakapatong sa Ibabaw nang TV ko....
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Jairus on May 28, 2003 at 03:58 PM
thanks courage! will probably buy this weekend :D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on May 28, 2003 at 04:00 PM
thanks courage! will probably buy this weekend :D

Ok no problem :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 29, 2003 at 04:42 PM
Any update on the price of 8.3??
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on May 29, 2003 at 04:48 PM
Any update on the price of 8.3??

Bakit pre, bili ka ba nang 8.3?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 29, 2003 at 05:17 PM
Courage

Parang gusto ng floorstanding lahat  ;D ;D oops except center
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on May 30, 2003 at 08:25 AM
Courage

Parang gusto ng floorstanding lahat  ;D ;D oops except center

ehehehehee sige tapos benta mo ang 8.1 mo sa akin ehehehehe
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: htboy on May 30, 2003 at 03:32 PM
Cheapest ba na Wharfs sa Amabassador?

Any other shops that carry Wharf speakers and offer a good price?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on May 30, 2003 at 03:33 PM
ambasador..trust me.. :)  unless pre owned ha
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: htboy on May 30, 2003 at 03:35 PM
I am thinking of 8.3 + Center + Sub or 8.4 w/o sub + center?

Comments please?  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on May 30, 2003 at 03:56 PM
I am thinking of 8.3 + Center + Sub or 8.4 w/o sub + center?

Comments please?  

If your amplifier is beefy/powerful you can get the 8.4 + center only.

But I'll choose the 8.3 + center + sub.

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: BuLLeT on May 30, 2003 at 04:03 PM
Hi,

Has any one tried to use the Wharfs floor standers with any SS or tube integrated amps for purely two channel listening?

I'm just curious on how these speakers performed.

Thanks.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: htboy on May 30, 2003 at 04:09 PM
mdsaint3,

Amabassador Virra Mall ba?  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: htboy on May 30, 2003 at 04:14 PM
Philander,

I am planning DENON 1803?  OK na ba ito for Wharf 8.4 + Center?

If 8.3 + center + sub.  OK ba sub ng wharfdale na 10A?

Thanks
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on May 30, 2003 at 04:21 PM
Philander,

I am planning DENON 1803?  OK na ba ito for Wharf 8.4 + Center?

If 8.3 + center + sub.  OK ba sub ng wharfdale na 10A?

Thanks


Ask courage, he previously owned a Denon 1803 and wharf speakers combination.


For sub? Get a better sub for a much lower price...
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on May 30, 2003 at 04:58 PM
wharfedale sub daw no good....   havent heard a denon wharf combo..pero saw in one website dont remember nga lang wer..na good combo daw.. ask courage for first hand experience..

get a us audio or dynaquest nalang
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on May 30, 2003 at 05:13 PM
tried 8.4s on an ss amp and it sounds good...was using it with nad 216thx though ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: htboy on May 30, 2003 at 08:04 PM
Went to Ambassador this afternoon.

I tired Denon 1803 with 8.3 Front, Diamond Center, 8.1 surround and dynaquest 12" Sub.

OK naman yun sound considering wala pa masaydong adjustments made to the receiver.  

Sir MDSaint,  OK ba?  

Thanks
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: levi on May 30, 2003 at 11:55 PM
Im using 1803 and Im very satisfied with it. Im not sure about the wharf but it is very famous in PinoyDVD. You might want to try Mission speakers also. Slightly higher in price but a lot better. Hyperaudio is selling velodyne CHT 8 at 30 percent off. If you can stretch your budget, it pays to have very good subwoofers.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on May 31, 2003 at 12:48 AM
htboy ,

sorry la akong denon so cant comment.. hehe..ok naman wharfs kasi that was the speaker set that fit my budget. wharfs will perform better after break in :)

or mels custom made subs pala :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: BuLLeT on Jun 01, 2003 at 08:33 PM
John,

Thanks for the comment.

I'm considering kasi the wharfs if ever my plans will push through with a two chnnel stereo set up.

I just have to find a good old reliable SS Amp. Maybe a Conrad Johnson will do (in my dreams).

Thanks again.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mojako on Jun 01, 2003 at 10:38 PM
if stereo, then mag 8.1 ka na.  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Jun 02, 2003 at 07:08 AM
kung pwede nga e i use the kevlar midrange of the 8.1 and use a silkdome tweeter, mas maganda ang tunog di na bitin yung highs swabe pa sa midrange. ok na for an audio setup, tsaka na yung subs(rel kasi ang gusto)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Jairus on Jun 02, 2003 at 08:07 AM
A friend lent me Chesky's Ultimate demo disk last weekend.  The disk is supposed to aid you in selecting audio equipment by giving tips on how to listen to (giving tips on what you're supposed to hear) audiophile recordings in terms of resolution, depth, focus, transients, transparency, etc.  It also has some
tests on bass response, midrange purity, etc. :o  Each track starts with a definition of the audiophile term with an introduction of the recording and then the full-track of the recording (which includes tracks from the likes of Ana Caram, Livingston Taylor, etc.)

I'm no audiophile and surely the disk gave me a reference point to evaluate/review the performance of my newly acquired gear: HK3550 + Wharf 8.3s.  I don't have a sub and surrounds yet so I used it purely for stereo listening at the moment (with all the settings set flat and surround off).

I must say that the combination passed all the tests with flying colors!  :o Of course, its still just me  :D

P.S. And my gear is still in its break-in stage!  So I guess the sound should improve even more  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: nerveblocker on Jun 02, 2003 at 09:15 AM
Guess HK receivers really make any other speaker sound great..... ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Jun 02, 2003 at 09:40 AM
wharfedales are difficult to drive but give them the right amp they sound really great, I guess when what hi-fi reviewed them they were using mid-level integrateds
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Jun 02, 2003 at 09:52 AM
wharfedales are difficult to drive but give them the right amp they sound really great, I guess when what hi-fi reviewed them they were using mid-level integrateds

My Wharfs really shines on an HK  amp :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Jun 02, 2003 at 09:54 AM
courage siguro kung mas ok na tweeter yung gamitin sa wharfs mo baka di ka magpalit to missions, mas maganda kasi yung tweeter ng missions sa diamonds IMO. sayang lang ang baba ng sensitivity, gusto kong itry sa tube amp :-\
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Jun 02, 2003 at 10:00 AM
courage siguro kung mas ok na tweeter yung gamitin sa wharfs mo baka di ka magpalit to missions, mas maganda kasi yung tweeter ng missions sa diamonds IMO. sayang lang ang baba ng sensitivity, gusto kong itry sa tube amp :-\

Ehehehe oo nga eh, pero baka hindi na ako magpalit kasi maganda na rin naman tunog nang wharfs eh, yung ipampapalit ko eh ibibili ko na lang nang 8.1 for surrounds.

Yup mababa nga sensitivity nya, pero the HK can really drive them compared to my previous recievers  :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Jun 02, 2003 at 05:09 PM
Ehehehe oo nga eh, pero baka hindi na ako magpalit kasi maganda na rin naman tunog nang wharfs eh, yung ipampapalit ko eh ibibili ko na lang nang 8.1 for surrounds.

Yup mababa nga sensitivity nya, pero the HK can really drive them compared to my previous recievers  :)


kaya rin naman ng NAD yan e topakin nga lang heheh
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Archangel on Jun 02, 2003 at 07:28 PM
Would a NAD C320BEE have problems driving the 8.4s?  I have to ask here since no store carries both where I am now.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Jun 03, 2003 at 05:48 AM
I think so...but it works best with the 8.1s thats in my opinion  :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: redtangent on Jun 03, 2003 at 04:24 PM
well ive heard enough to say that HK recievers can fire the diamond 8 with ease... i was thinking between AVR3550 .. then again, when i saw the price of the yamaha RXV630... and the added features.. i was a bit bothered..

which do you think can fire the diamond 8.4's better? i  know this is a bit on the personal preferrence but what are your comments?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 03, 2003 at 04:30 PM
I think if wharfedale Diamond are fully broken-in labas talaga yun true sound niya and you will not notice or hear the lack in high kasi at the moment kung new yun wharf yun tweeter lang nagproproduce ng high and the woofer is still matigas so little high lalabas..

I said this coz yun Valdus center ko broke in na and last night I test it with a movie I can't notice the lack of high all i can hear is natural sound yun presence nun voice ( dialogue) eh maganda neutral ang galing...  and also at high volume there is no change in tone.



Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 03, 2003 at 04:38 PM
Redtangent,

Sir go for the best sound for you... hehehe ako HK na rin. :D :D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: redtangent on Jun 03, 2003 at 09:53 PM
I just got home from greenhills... i went to Ambasaddor to check out the wharfs... here's the quotation i got:

Yamaha RXV-630      18,800
Diamond 8.4               8,500
Diamond 8.1               4,500
Diamond Center         3,700
DynaQuest 12 sub     6,300

Well, di rin masyadong gumalaw yung prices. Sad to say, the guy there didnt want to test the set with a 630 which i wanted.. di daw calibrated.. so he set it up with a RXV-430...

With this set-up, medyo bitin sa akin yung tunog nung Center.. ok naman yung mains sa music pero i agree that it lacked the punch in the lower range (the 8.4's that is). Nagulat ako sa tunog nung 8.1's na ginamit as rears... sobrang ok pala yun. Ganda pa ng tunog nung cabinets nila.. really solid.

The highs of the 8.4 i think is quite weak nga.. maybe its due to the fact na its not in broken in. i would trust the guys here pero baka naman dahil yamaha 430 ang gamit.. baka pag 630 ang gamit mas ok.. pero alam ko pareho lang ang specs nito amp wies.. features lang ang nagkaiba.

na dissapoint ako sa connectors nung speakers... parang di sya as high quality as the b&W pero for the price hahaha.. walang comparison

i didnt get to test the 8.3 so baka mas ok.. di ko lam.. i just thought since 3 way na yung 8.4 mas ok.. i guess i have to listen to them din and with RXV 630...

then again.. baka naman sobrang iba pag HK ang gamit.. what do you guys think?

HANS.. ano HK gamit mo?

personally i found the guy in UNIQUE... si Jhonson mas accomodating.. tagal namin nag chat.. yung sa admiral medyo business minded lang lalo na yung chinese behind the counter.


Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mojako on Jun 03, 2003 at 10:58 PM
red,
totoong medyo matigas ang wharfs, as compared to the missions.   Siguro pinaka swabe na ang 8.1, mas lalo pag tweaked at broken in na.

yung 530, 13.8k lang, sale kasi

nag audition ka bang Mission and B&Ws?  I suggest you do.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: redtangent on Jun 04, 2003 at 08:23 AM
bro di ko pa na test yung mission and b&W...

i know mas malulupit sila pero medyo tindi rin ng price e.. yung 303 palang na fronts e mga 15 na.. buong set na yon ng wharfs na 8.4 and 8.1 hehehe...with center pa

whats your set up ba mojaks?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Jun 04, 2003 at 08:45 AM
bro di ko pa na test yung mission and b&W...

i know mas malulupit sila pero medyo tindi rin ng price e.. yung 303 palang na fronts e mga 15 na.. buong set na yon ng wharfs na 8.4 and 8.1 hehehe...with center pa

whats your set up ba mojaks?

Pare ull be amazed kapag HK na ang nag dadrive nang wharfs, i know coz im using HK and Wharfs 8.3 and my wharfs has been driven by a Yamaha, Denon, NAD and now HK receiver. out of the 4 only the NAD and the HK makes my wharfs shine, but again, this is just me.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: redtangent on Jun 04, 2003 at 01:00 PM
haha i expected that.. well thats true...
san kaya ok i audition to side by side wharf with YAMAHA and HARMAN?

Bro courage.. bakit 8.3 ang kinuha mo? mas ok ba sya sa 8.4? sayang e i was thinking na ok yung 8.4 kasi 3 way na.. baka mas ok sa midrange.. havent heard the 8.3's e..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jun 04, 2003 at 01:04 PM
haha i expected that.. well thats true...
san kaya ok i audition to side by side wharf with YAMAHA and HARMAN?

Bro courage.. bakit 8.3 ang kinuha mo? mas ok ba sya sa 8.4? sayang e i was thinking na ok yung 8.4 kasi 3 way na.. baka mas ok sa midrange.. havent heard the 8.3's e..

Try mo sa Spectra @ Parksquare 1.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: redtangent on Jun 04, 2003 at 01:09 PM
thanks philander..

i just got home from listening in stlye sa robinson east.
sabi ni TEODY don yung guy.. na mas ok daw ang wharfs for music pero pag movie mas ok daw yamaha...ewan ko lang.. i tried the NS-45E and P-60 nila.. medyo di ko nagustuhan...

wharfes 8.3/4 or yamaha NS-P8390... 3 way floor standing din yon e. may promo kasi sila now for yamha packaged with P-70 na fronts and surrounds with rear center na.  sa tunog for you guys.. ano sa tingin nyo?

by the way... im going 60 percent movies 40 audio
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Jun 04, 2003 at 01:17 PM
haha i expected that.. well thats true...
san kaya ok i audition to side by side wharf with YAMAHA and HARMAN?

Bro courage.. bakit 8.3 ang kinuha mo? mas ok ba sya sa 8.4? sayang e i was thinking na ok yung 8.4 kasi 3 way na.. baka mas ok sa midrange.. havent heard the 8.3's e..

Well kulang sa budget ehehehe thats the main reason, well maganda tumunog ang 8.3 medyo bitin nga lang sa bass but i have a very good subwoofer to get those LFE rumble my house ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: redtangent on Jun 04, 2003 at 01:30 PM
oo nga e pera lang ba ang katapat? kasi most people here get the 8.3 e... dont know why nga ..
anong sub ang gamit mo with this?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Jun 04, 2003 at 01:41 PM
oo nga e pera lang ba ang katapat? kasi most people here get the 8.3 e... dont know why nga ..
anong sub ang gamit mo with this?

Im using a JBL PSW1200 120 watts RMS. boommmm :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wolf on Jun 04, 2003 at 02:54 PM
Redtangent,

Pareho pala tayo ng problema.  

I am also planning to buy the wharfs and DQ12, sa akin naman mas OK yun 8.3 since may sub na.  

Budget conscious din pero I am plannning to get DENON 1803, I auditioned it na with ambassador and I pretty much liked it.  I am planning to get them this week after I checked out HK3550.

Ang problema ko lang dito is 5.1 lang siya compared to 6.1 of 1803.  Honestly speaking I will try first yun HK before deciding. Dami talagang supporters ang HK and they should know better I think.

I have auditioned Yamaha na rin 630 but compare to denon mas OK parin ang 1803. Only HK will stop me from buying this...
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Jun 04, 2003 at 03:46 PM
Redtangent,

Pareho pala tayo ng problema.  

I am also planning to buy the wharfs and DQ12, sa akin naman mas OK yun 8.3 since may sub na.  

Budget conscious din pero I am plannning to get DENON 1803, I auditioned it na with ambassador and I pretty much liked it.  I am planning to get them this week after I checked out HK3550.

Ang problema ko lang dito is 5.1 lang siya compared to 6.1 of 1803.  Honestly speaking I will try first yun HK before deciding. Dami talagang supporters ang HK and they should know better I think.

I have auditioned Yamaha na rin 630 but compare to denon mas OK parin ang 1803. Only HK will stop me from buying this...

Hey if 1803 and Wharfs sound good to u then its a good buy. dont stop urself from buying it coz of some negative comments on 1803 and wharf combi or that HK is more better than Denon, its whats good on ur ears will decide which is best. Happy hunting :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Jairus on Jun 04, 2003 at 05:47 PM
Redtangent,

Ang problema ko lang dito is 5.1 lang siya compared to 6.1 of 1803.  Honestly speaking I will try first yun HK before deciding. Dami talagang supporters ang HK and they should know better I think.

wolf,

check mo rin yung "going 6.1 thread"...might help you decide whether that's the route you want to take ;)

goodluck!

jairus
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mojako on Jun 04, 2003 at 10:55 PM
Red,
naka budget setup ako.  Sakura 5.1ch amp.  
Mains: Diamond 8.1 (Tweaked by Nirv)
Center: Diamond center (Tweaked by Nirv)
Sub: 10" Kevlar Sub, custom made by Nirv
rears: aiwa bookshelf speakers
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Jairus on Jun 05, 2003 at 07:51 AM
Mojako,

Sent you a PM.

Jairus
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jun 05, 2003 at 10:52 AM
mojaks, pa pm naman kung saan at magkano magpa tweak ng wharfs 8.1 (8.4 pwede din bang i-tweak?). tnxs
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: pukx on Jun 05, 2003 at 11:29 AM
mojaks, pa pm naman kung saan at magkano magpa tweak ng wharfs 8.1 (8.4 pwede din bang i-tweak?). tnxs

sir kimpao,

    try mo kontakin si sir nirvblakr & anthony... very accomodating & oks na oks ang service nila.... :)

pukx 8)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: van_wilder on Jun 05, 2003 at 11:32 AM
goodmorning, question lang , what is the advantage of having the speakers tweaked?
mine is also an 8.1 and i'm really wondering what advantage this would have.
thanks
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jun 05, 2003 at 11:33 AM
tnxs pukxs, nirv pa pm naman kung how much pa-tweak ng 8.1 's at 8.4's
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jun 05, 2003 at 11:38 AM
Kimpao,

Sent you PM.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jun 05, 2003 at 11:46 AM
goodmorning, question lang , what is the advantage of having the speakers tweaked?
mine is also an 8.1 and i'm really wondering what advantage this would have.
thanks


The Wharfedale 8 series are "quoted" with weak highs and hard bass and producing harsh sound, that's why some prefer to change the crossover network to improve clarity and to produce softer bass.

I suggest that you should finish the break-in period first before you decide to have it tweaked.

About 20 to 50 hrs of running time, then if you didn't noticed any difference or improvement in sound at all, then its about time to have it tweaked.

Then again, if you want how it sound (after the break in period), no need to tweak it.

Just a cent.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jun 05, 2003 at 11:55 AM
Mahirap "daw" kasi i-match ang Wharfedale diamonds sa receiver, so kung di mo gusto yung sound nya with your receiver, try mong ipatweak, baka dun lumabas ang "definition" ng wharfs.


I just bought 8.1 last monday, nung na hook sa Marantz 4300 receiver, ang pangit talaga ng sound, ngo-ngo pa at ang tigas ng bass, lalo na yung highs- parang piniprito- weak talaga. I was really dissapointed (though I know na ganito talaga yung wharfs, gaganda ang sound pag na-broken in na).

But after about 10 hours of working time, yun gumaganda na yung sound, nawala na yung "frying sound" na pumipitik sa tweeter, naging mas clear na at lumalambot na yung bass at hindi na rin ngongo.

Hopefully pag dating nya sa 20 to 30 hours is much better na yung sound.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: htboy on Jun 05, 2003 at 12:17 PM
Philander,

PM me also how much kung papatweak ko 8.3 and 8.1

TY
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: fildeps on Jun 05, 2003 at 12:18 PM
hi guys, i've been reading these thread for almost 2 weeks now and im planning to buy speakers, one of my options is these wharf speakers.  It has  been said that you need to break-in these wharfs say for 10 hours to fully appreciate them.  You say 10 hours non-stop? or just wait until it reaches its peak?  :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Jun 05, 2003 at 12:37 PM
Wharfs are very good if properly break in and matched with a very good receiver. :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jun 05, 2003 at 12:49 PM
...... It has  been said that you need to break-in these wharfs say for 10 hours to fully appreciate them.  You say 10 hours non-stop? or just wait until it reaches its peak?  :)

Pwedeng tuloy-tuloy. Pwede ring installment. Its your choice, but may mga suggestions you can read here:
http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=1624;start=0

Just use them, the way you normally use.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: fildeps on Jun 05, 2003 at 12:51 PM
guess im stucked to my receiver, i have a yammy rx-v430, bought it for a cheap price.  what speakers would you think will fit in to this blackhole? entry-level that is.  u think wharfs could do any good?  I'm considering not only for HT but for music as well.  

Wharfs are very good if properly break in and matched with a very good receiver. :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Jun 05, 2003 at 12:55 PM
guess im stucked to my receiver, i have a yammy rx-v430, bought it for a cheap price.  what speakers would you think will fit in to this blackhole? entry-level that is.  u think wharfs could do any good?  I'm considering not only for HT but for music as well.  

Wharfs will sound good on a yammy, i suggest the 8.1, but hey listen to it 1st baka kasi nagagandahan ako tapos ikaw naman eh ayaw mo nang tunog. :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jun 05, 2003 at 01:01 PM
Try nyo rin munang palitan yung brass metal plate na nagkokonect sa both terminals ng speaker connection ng wire na katulad nung ginamit nyo to connect your receiver to the speaker.

Then try nyo ring i-biwire yung Diamond speaker nyo and see the difference.

Try nyo ring alisin yung speaker grills.

Saka kayo magdecide na ipa-tweaked.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: fildeps on Jun 05, 2003 at 01:58 PM
Wharfs will sound good on a yammy, i suggest the 8.1, but hey listen to it 1st baka kasi nagagandahan ako tapos ikaw naman eh ayaw mo nang tunog. :)

how about 8.2's in your front  and 8.1's to your rear.  You're saying 8.1 are better maybe it be front or rear?
anybody can comment on this?
tnx
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: losi_phile on Jun 05, 2003 at 03:08 PM
Fildeps : Sa akin lang, I'd just buy 2 sets of 8.1 for my fronts and rears and a good subwoofer.  Between 8.2 and 8.3, bibilhin ko 8.3 kasi di mo na kailangan ng stands unless may paglalagyan ka ng 8.2 maliban sa speaker stands. Isa pa, madalang yata gumagamit ng 8.2 sa thread na ito.  As of now, I'm experimenting with 8.1s as fronts and rears, diamond center and a low cost sub, nakadisconnect muna 8.3 ko.  Again, opinion ko lang ito.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: obey on Jun 05, 2003 at 03:08 PM
Fildeps,

We have the same receiver.  I used to have 8.1s as my front/main speakers and I would say that they really match well with my yamaha.  Ang linaw ng tunog.  Problem is kulang lang talaga siya ng bass lalo na for music.  But, you could always find a good sub to complement the "weak" bass of the wharfs.  I got my sub from nirv and anthony and ang ganda talaga ng match with the 8.1s.  Swabe ang bass delivery ng sub na nabili ko.

Now, I use my 8.1s as surrounds since nirv offered me his personal floorstanding speakers at a price I could not refuse.  Siya na ang gamit kong front speakers. Ganda rin talaga ng tunog nitong nabili ko k nirv.  Before, I used to enjoy music via Dolby ProLogic 2 ( w/ sub) pero ngayon gumanda talaga ang 2-channel stereo performance ng setup ko.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Jun 05, 2003 at 03:41 PM
Fildeps,

We have the same receiver.  I used to have 8.1s as my front/main speakers and I would say that they really match well with my yamaha.  Ang linaw ng tunog.  Problem is kulang lang talaga siya ng bass lalo na for music.  But, you could always find a good sub to complement the "weak" bass of the wharfs.  I got my sub from nirv and anthony and ang ganda talaga ng match with the 8.1s.  Swabe ang bass delivery ng sub na nabili ko.

Now, I use my 8.1s as surrounds since nirv offered me his personal floorstanding speakers at a price I could not refuse.  Siya na ang gamit kong front speakers. Ganda rin talaga ng tunog nitong nabili ko k nirv.  Before, I used to enjoy music via Dolby ProLogic 2 ( w/ sub) pero ngayon gumanda talaga ang 2-channel stereo performance ng setup ko.

Nabenta mo na ba ang 8.1 mo?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: obey on Jun 05, 2003 at 04:07 PM
Courage,

Di ko binenta yung 8.1 ko.  Gamit ko siya as surround speakers ngayon.  Dati kasi ang gamit ko na surrounds ay sa old mini component ko. Di ko rin i-give up ung 8.1 kasi maganda ang tunog lalo na after the break-in period.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: van_wilder on Jun 05, 2003 at 05:18 PM
Try nyo rin munang palitan yung brass metal plate na nagkokonect sa both terminals ng speaker connection ng wire na katulad nung ginamit nyo to connect your receiver to the speaker.

Then try nyo ring i-biwire yung Diamond speaker nyo and see the difference.

Try nyo ring alisin yung speaker grills.


Saka kayo magdecide na ipa-tweaked.
thanks phil,
presently i really don't feel the need for the tweaking yet, but i'm really that curios on how good it would sound. it's the sub now that i am really after, i'm considering getting them from mel

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: fildeps on Jun 05, 2003 at 05:32 PM
You bi-wired all your wharfs? i understand that all diamond series have the option to bi-wire. Is it advicable to bi-wire all your speakers?

Fildeps : Sa akin lang, I'd just buy 2 sets of 8.1 for my fronts and rears and a good subwoofer.  Between 8.2 and 8.3, bibilhin ko 8.3 kasi di mo na kailangan ng stands unless may paglalagyan ka ng 8.2 maliban sa speaker stands. Isa pa, madalang yata gumagamit ng 8.2 sa thread na ito.  As of now, I'm experimenting with 8.1s as fronts and rears, diamond center and a low cost sub, nakadisconnect muna 8.3 ko.  Again, opinion ko lang ito.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: shine on Jun 05, 2003 at 06:09 PM
meron din ako diamond 8.4, tried the difference kung bi-wired siya...wala man lang effect kahit konti. Sa tingin ko, tama ang sabi nila na better use yung magandang cable kaysa mag-bi-wire ka, since im using ixos 6003, kaya siguro walang effect.

kuha ko sa 6003 ko is 350/meter sa sm harrison.

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Archangel on Jun 05, 2003 at 06:55 PM
Are the 8.1s magnetically shielded?  A new review in Audioreview complains that the 8.3s are not.  Since I will be using the 8.1s very near 2 tv sets, this is a major consideration.  Thanks in advance.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: losi_phile on Jun 06, 2003 at 09:09 AM
fildeps : after reading so many articles/discussions about bi-wiring/bi-amping, i decided not to bi-wire my diamonds.  According to my readings, very small lang daw ang difference and barely audible pa.

archangel : 8.1s, 8.2s and 8.3s are not magnetically shielded but if you'll place them, say, around 1-2 ft away from you tv, i guess di maaapektuhan ang tv mo.
Nag-try akong ipatong ang 8.1 sa top ng tv ko para gawing center channel pero naapektuhan ang tv ko so bumili na lang ako ng diamond center speaker wich is 100% percent shielded.

I've a question (for curiousity sake) : Ok kaya gawing main speakers ang diamond center speakers? May nag-experiment na bang gawin ito?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Jun 06, 2003 at 09:26 AM
Are the 8.1s magnetically shielded?  A new review in Audioreview complains that the 8.3s are not.  Since I will be using the 8.1s very near 2 tv sets, this is a major consideration.  Thanks in advance.

Nilagay ko sa tabi nang TV yung 8.3 ko as in nakadikit na yung dalawang speakers sa side nang TV pero nothing happens with my TV, but still i dunno kung shielded yung 8.3.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jun 06, 2003 at 09:58 AM
Nilagay ko sa tabi nang TV yung 8.3 ko as in nakadikit na yung dalawang speakers sa side nang TV pero nothing happens with my TV, but still i dunno kung shielded yung 8.3.

arch, yung speakers ba ng tv mo nasa sides niya or nsa ilalim? plus you might want to consider kung meron kang isang appliance na malakas mag-consume ng kuryente with 2 to 3 ft sa tv mo. na experience ko ito not just with speakers, we have this server in the office which is 3 to 4 ft away from my pc monitor (ala speakers nakatabi sa monitor) distored yung color ng screens ko for so many months akala ko sira but to my surprise when i moved to a different work place, naayos yung monitor
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [joms] on Jun 06, 2003 at 10:17 AM
nirv - did you get my PM regarding the subwoofer?

magkano din pala if i have my 8.1 tweaked? pa PM naman. TY
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: redtangent on Jun 06, 2003 at 10:19 AM
teka.. bakit puro 8.1 at 8.3 ang gamit.. .bakit walang gumagamit nmg 8.4? mas mahirap ba to i drive? im  thinking of getting a yamaha 630 or a HK 3550... ... o mas ok na mag 8.3 nalang ako?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: fildeps on Jun 06, 2003 at 10:30 AM
we all know that wharf's do have glitches, like the tweeter doesn't really tweet  :) that good.  lacks bass, so you need to have a sub-woofer to drive them.  Despite all these, have you guys tried to adjust your receiver's settings like putting more bass to your main, say if you dont have the subs.  etc. does these adjustments made it sound better?  Did it do any improvements? o hanggang dun ka na lang sa wharf na yan?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jun 06, 2003 at 10:47 AM
we all know that wharf's do have glitches, like the tweeter doesn't really tweet  :) that good.  lacks bass, so you need to have a sub-woofer to drive them.  Despite all these, have you guys tried to adjust your receiver's settings like putting more bass to your main, say if you dont have the subs.  etc. does these adjustments made it sound better?  Did it do any improvements? o hanggang dun ka na lang sa wharf na yan?


as most of the people are saying, "depends upon your ears" kung ok sa iyo mas maganda.  am using wharfs which i got a couple of weeks ago. tinodo ko yung break-in for about 12 hours straight using generic speaker wires.  after that DIY speaker cables that i made using CAT 5 cables (braided, ang sakit sa kamay!!!!!!) after that ok na yung tunog. yung setting ko sa bass and treble 12 o'ckock kung gusto kong mas lumitaw yung highs, tinataansan ko lang.  nga pala am using 8.4's instead of 8.3's for fronts, 8.1 for rear and diamond 8 for ctr.  ok yung dq-12 exact lang yung bass niya.  again filedeps, it really depends on your likes and listening style.  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: redtangent on Jun 06, 2003 at 11:05 AM
kimpao...

bakity 8.4 ang gamit mo and not 8.3? ano amp mo?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jun 06, 2003 at 11:14 AM
kimpao...

bakity 8.4 ang gamit mo and not 8.3? ano amp mo?
its just me,  i also tried the 8.3's pero mas gusto ko yung 8.4's (might be the bass that enticed me to go for 8.4's) am using denon 1803's
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: redtangent on Jun 06, 2003 at 11:18 AM
wow sakto ako rin... i was thinking of getting that denon din from silly hahaha.. medyo mura e.. pwede ba i audition set-up mo kim? hahaha feeling close

complete ka na HT set-up no?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jun 06, 2003 at 11:37 AM
wow sakto ako rin... i was thinking of getting that denon din from silly hahaha.. medyo mura e.. pwede ba i audition set-up mo kim? hahaha feeling close

complete ka na HT set-up no?
balak ko pa nga to use misson speakers w/ velodyne kaso nung binigay sa akin yung quote hindi na makatarungan yung presyo. muntik ng mag-dilim yung paningin ko! hahaha!!! actually, kay pang mag missions kaso may mga pinag-iipunan pa akong iba. hehehe.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: redtangent on Jun 06, 2003 at 11:40 AM
oo nga sobra naman mission e.. gumaganda tunog pag mura hhahahaha...
sino pa ba mag wharfes tapos 1803 set-up na pwede i test... o sa spectra nalang ko i test
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jun 06, 2003 at 11:58 AM
oo nga sobra naman mission e.. gumaganda tunog pag mura hhahahaha...
sino pa ba mag wharfes tapos 1803 set-up na pwede i test... o sa spectra nalang ko i test

red, dun ko sa tabi ng spectra kinuha yung gamit ko. sa spectra hindi ako na-asikaso ng maayos.  "procastinating" lahat nung mga tao.  nasubukan ko using 1603's parang hirap siya to drive the 8.4's so i went for the 1803's which is mas ok. dun sa 8.3's ok din kaso mas type ko yung looks ng 8.4's ahehehehe
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: redtangent on Jun 06, 2003 at 12:02 PM
medyo bansot lang talaga tong speakers na to.. pwede kaya pa gawan ng  onting elevated platform to.. kasi medyo mas mataas ang display ko e hehehe..

bro anong store sa tabi ng spectra? anong level ba yon?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: htboy on Jun 06, 2003 at 12:18 PM
Yun 8.4 ba magnetically shielded ba ito?

Balak ko kasi 8.3 tapos itatabi ko sa projection TV.

Thanks
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jun 06, 2003 at 12:19 PM
medyo bansot lang talaga tong speakers na to.. pwede kaya pa gawan ng  onting elevated platform to.. kasi medyo mas mataas ang display ko e hehehe..

bro anong store sa tabi ng spectra? anong level ba yon?
siguro yun din yung isa sa mga features na di ko nagustuhan sa 8.3's pwede rin pagawan ng platform pero baka mag-mukhang podium yung wharfs na 8.3 (kulang nalang gooseneck microphone, pwede nang pang speaking engagements,ahehehe).  baka naman mataas yung tv rack mo kaya mababa tingnan para sa 8.3's (nakaka-ilang diba?).  try to get a two level rack for your tv kung wala siyang stand.  try mo sa handyman, may nakuha akong tv rack (two level, four compartment) 1 1/2 to 2ft yung taas for 3K ok pa yung woodgrain finish niya.

di ko dala yung receipts pero sa park square 1 grnd floor i think its right after the mobile phone shop to the left when you're comming from greenbelt (dun sa may avenson's).  bro, pagdating sa direksyon mahina tayo diyan. ahehehehe. sa display units medyo mataas yung mga presyo pero makaktawad ka naman.
   
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jun 06, 2003 at 12:51 PM
Yun 8.4 ba magnetically shielded ba ito?

Balak ko kasi 8.3 tapos itatabi ko sa projection TV.

Thanks
nope,  as long as you have the right placement, say 1 to 2 ft as courage would say, ala kang problema
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: redtangent on Jun 06, 2003 at 01:24 PM
hahaha oo nga no.. podium.. well baka pwede naman gwan na sakto lang.. kaya lang baka biglang maglaglag... are there ane accoustic problems with this kaya?

hmmm... well i plan to use a projector kasi with this.. e medyo mataas ang bato non e..naghahanap din ako ng accoustically transparent na screen para pwede sa likod yung center...sakto lang kasi sa height yung cabinet..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jofkevski on Jun 06, 2003 at 01:44 PM
Hi losi_phile!

diamond center is better to use as front than 8.1 because it has higher sensitivity at 88db. I hope your experiment will become permanent. Balak ko ring gawin yan kaya lang medyo mas mahal than sticking with my 8.1. With rated upper bass to high frequency (compared with other speakers), together with its value, it is the best in the market. Bass is not really an issue since standard HT setup today has subwoofer (even if your front produce their respective bass - matatabunan lang ito ng subwoofer bass). And having a good subwoofer will reduce greatly the stress on the speaker and will lengthen the life of your speakers.

I hope this helps.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jun 06, 2003 at 01:44 PM
bro kung balak mong ilagay sa likod ng screen, definitely maapektuhan yung tunog centers mo.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: redtangent on Jun 06, 2003 at 01:55 PM
thats why you have to get accoustically transparent screens.. meron sa da-lite kaya lang di ko alam kung sino ang dealer dito sa atin.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: fildeps on Jun 06, 2003 at 02:09 PM
HT-heads, sino senyo ang may setup na rxv430 with 8.4 fronts, can you give me any comment on this, kaya ba ng 430 ang 8.4? 8.4 i think is in 150 watts....
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: htboy on Jun 06, 2003 at 02:23 PM
Redtangent,

Delikado pa rin yan maski 1 to 2 ft.  

Ang mahal ng bili ko sa projection tv ko and I won't take that kind of risk.

Panibagong problema na naman ito.

Do any of you guys know kung magnetically shielded yun floorstanding ng missions?  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: redtangent on Jun 06, 2003 at 03:23 PM
ht boy
hahaha... si kimpao po yung nagsabi na 1-2ft ok na yung not magnetically shielded na fronts hehehe...

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jun 06, 2003 at 07:30 PM
8.4 definitely not shielded but my setup for the fronts is around 8 inches yung layo sa tv ko ala naman akong problema nasubukan ko rin na halos dikit na sa tv (like courage said) ok naman.  kaya nga yae ko gumamit ng ganyang display masyadong maselan. ahehehehehe...
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Archangel on Jun 07, 2003 at 10:18 PM
Thanks to those who answered my question on whether the 8.1 are shielded or not.  I just bought a pair and they are indeed not shielded.  Although, you have to stick them to the plastic casing of the tv to get any discoloration but better to be on the safe side.

Now to the most important thing, the sound.  Paired with a NAD C320, they sound quite good out of the box.  Tried them out with the 8.3s and the latter still showed the muddiness I remember from last time I auditioned so I bought the 8.1s.  If they sound this good with no break-in, generic 16 gauge cables, and a DVD player as a source then I should be looking forward to sweeter music later.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 08, 2003 at 03:51 PM
Redtangent,

Sorry for the late reply Hk5500 gamit ko same as Idol Courage hehehe

Tips kung gusto nyo..

For quick break in of speakers.... position your speaker face to face yun almost magkadikit tapos CHANGE THE POLARTY nun isang speaker yun isa as is lang yun bass and treble control are just set to 12 o'clock then play your disco CD or CD na maraming bass and treble play it overnight then next day stop nyo na and test to hear a big big difference..

NOTE:
yun VOLUME should be regulated first  4 hrs moderate  tapos high na PERO to the extent na DI DISTORTED yun bass ok.. covered it with blanket para di maingay and take of the cover of your speaker pala. :)

I have done this to my wharf speaker
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Jun 09, 2003 at 03:54 AM
8.1s sing when paired with NAD integrateds you are right in expecting that it will sound better with age  ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: redtangent on Jun 10, 2003 at 12:35 PM
grabe.. all other receivers sound good with Wharfes...
that is.. if you dont listen to them with a harman kardon hehehehe...

nagulat ako.. kahit girlfriend ko na di masyado mahilig nagulat sa tunog.. bakit daw ang "tinis" nung sound nung yamaha (630) at mas makapal daw and mas buo yung "bato" nung harman... shucks.. nagulat talaga ako

advice... wag nyo nalang pakinggan with other receivers if your already satisfied with what you have hehehe.. 8.4's pa yong gamit....

ok sa spectra ang tyaga nila..specially si jim. sulit ang service... he will even tell you what to listen for.

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Jun 10, 2003 at 12:51 PM
grabe.. all other receivers sound good with Wharfes...
that is.. if you dont listen to them with a harman kardon hehehehe...

nagulat ako.. kahit girlfriend ko na di masyado mahilig nagulat sa tunog.. bakit daw ang "tinis" nung sound nung yamaha (630) at mas makapal daw and mas buo yung "bato" nung harman... shucks.. nagulat talaga ako

advice... wag nyo nalang pakinggan with other receivers if your already satisfied with what you have hehehe.. 8.4's pa yong gamit....

ok sa spectra ang tyaga nila..specially si jim. sulit ang service... he will even tell you what to listen for.



 ;D, hey the wharfs also sound good on a NAD receiver, but i like it more on a Harman. Pilian kasi itong si wharfs eh..mura nga yung speakers sa reciever ka naman mapapamahal if u want a good matching ehehehe
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jun 10, 2003 at 01:35 PM
;D, hey the wharfs also sound good on a NAD receiver, but i like it more on a Harman. Pilian kasi itong si wharfs eh..mura nga yung speakers sa reciever ka naman mapapamahal if u want a good matching ehehehe

am using wharfs in my setup (8.4, 8.1 + denon 1803) ok talaga, as long as you won't audition other speakers.  narinig ko na missions and b&w mas maganda talaga but you really have to stretch your budget if you're planning too. medyo kontento na ako sa setup ko kaso minsan parang mayhinahanap kang tunog. i've also auditioned klipsch kaso mas mahal from missions and b&w.  actually am thinking of having the 8.4's tweaked (if needed or kung dapat) does anyone have an advise on this. kaw sir courage any tips or advise. was thinking of openning the 8.4's to see if it is using guage 14 cables internally.  dapat bang palitan ito just in case they're not using it.  i've read from one of the threads lang on speaker cables and connections.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Jun 10, 2003 at 02:32 PM
am using wharfs in my setup (8.4, 8.1 + denon 1803) ok talaga, as long as you won't audition other speakers.  narinig ko na missions and b&w mas maganda talaga but you really have to stretch your budget if you're planning too. medyo kontento na ako sa setup ko kaso minsan parang mayhinahanap kang tunog. i've also auditioned klipsch kaso mas mahal from missions and b&w.  actually am thinking of having the 8.4's tweaked (if needed or kung dapat) does anyone have an advise on this. kaw sir courage any tips or advise. was thinking of openning the 8.4's to see if it is using guage 14 cables internally.  dapat bang palitan ito just in case they're not using it.  i've read from one of the threads lang on speaker cables and connections.

Pare pa tweak mo kay Mel(Nirvblkr) para ma improve ang sound nyan..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jun 10, 2003 at 08:20 PM
Pare pa tweak mo kay Mel(Nirvblkr) para ma improve ang sound nyan..

sir nirvblkr pa send naman dito sa email address ([email protected]) kung magkano aabot para i-tweak yung 8.4's

tnx
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Jairus on Jun 11, 2003 at 05:00 PM
grabe.. all other receivers sound good with Wharfes...
that is.. if you dont listen to them with a harman kardon hehehehe...

nagulat ako.. kahit girlfriend ko na di masyado mahilig nagulat sa tunog.. bakit daw ang "tinis" nung sound nung yamaha (630) at mas makapal daw and mas buo yung "bato" nung harman... shucks.. nagulat talaga ako

advice... wag nyo nalang pakinggan with other receivers if your already satisfied with what you have hehehe.. 8.4's pa yong gamit....

ok sa spectra ang tyaga nila..specially si jim. sulit ang service... he will even tell you what to listen for.

When I was in the market for a receiver and speakers, I was already decided on the Wharfs kasi mura.  I was thinking of getting the cheaper Marantz...but when I heard the Wharfs with HK 2550 sobrang napaisip ako.  Eventually got the Wharf 8.3s and HK3550...medyo napamahal ako but I am very satisfied...ganda talaga ng tunog :o.

Got my equipment from spectra because they gave me the best price...but they were not very accommodating until I showed them the money ::)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 12, 2003 at 12:14 PM
Jairus,

Agree ako dyan money speaks
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Jun 12, 2003 at 01:13 PM
Hans,

kung walang hole yung 8.1 paano ko kiaya maikakabit sa ceiling yun? alangan namang butasan ko yung speakers? sighhhhhhhhh...san ko ipupwesto yung 8.1 waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 12, 2003 at 01:20 PM
Tale ang katapat pre ;D ;D




jok lang
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Jun 12, 2003 at 01:22 PM
Tale ang katapat pre ;D ;D




jok lang

ahahahaha ibibitin ko na lang nang tali ang speakers ehehehe..kaya lang iikot yun ehehehehe
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Jairus on Jun 12, 2003 at 05:00 PM
Jairus,

Agree ako dyan money speaks

Actually, kung hindi lang ako atat na bumili na during that time ;D, I would have gone elsewhere.  Kaso nandun na ko and they carry both Hk and Wharfs (and kahiyaan na sa ka-officemate ko na nagdala ng CRV niya para samahan ako  :-[) so I bought it there.  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: BuLLeT on Jun 12, 2003 at 05:30 PM
Well, at least you should voice out your dissatisfaction with their service. While their are wrapping your things, Give them a litany regarding Customer Service & satisfaction.

By this, you are doing them a favor ( A free seminar) hehehe.

Or if you can't tell them up front. Call them upon reaching home & relate your experience.

They need your money more then you need them.

Customers are the life blood of their business.

Sorry medyo OT yata.

Back to the diamonds, meron bang gumagamit ng 8.4 as fronts dito? Can you share your listening experience on this model?

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jun 12, 2003 at 06:03 PM
bullet, di ka nagtanong dun sa katabing shop ng spectra. am using 8.4's. experience wise, ok siya!  minsan meron ka lang hinahanap na tunog, parang kulang yung highs niya or it might be the cds and dvds i use.  anyway courage advised me to have it tweaked by nirv para mas lumabas daw yung high and mid niya. one thing na napansin with wharfs is dapat malakas yung receiver mo to power them.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Archangel on Jun 15, 2003 at 08:55 AM
I bi-wired my 8.1s today and I got a noticeable improvement in the highs.  So much so that my dvd player's brightness is starting to show through in  music listening.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Jun 16, 2003 at 10:06 AM
I bi-wired my 8.1s today and I got a noticeable improvement in the highs.  So much so that my dvd player's brightness is starting to show through in  music listening.

Maybe i should start biwiring my 8.3 and center, hmmmm
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: fildeps on Jun 16, 2003 at 11:20 AM
i have  8.4 fronts and 8.1 rears.. i bi-wired them all, all i can say is that it sounded better than theatres in the mall... i am very delighted with the 8.1 as rears.. i used 16 guage, oxygen-free wires, bought it in deecos..  ;D.. wharfs are not bad at all.  you can use a little adjustment to the receiver, eg. a lot more emphasis to the treble and less bass.. plus little adjustments to your subs... you just have to be a little patient until you get the right acoustics.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Jun 18, 2003 at 12:25 PM
what speaker wires do you use to connect your wharfs with your receivers?? anyone recommend a good set of wires.. read in the missions thread bout them using ixos silver and gray..and the difference from 12g wires is really noticeable..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jun 18, 2003 at 12:41 PM
i previously used 12 gauge wires and then tried CAT 5 DIY braided cables (gawa ko lang). mas ok yung CAT 5 kaso you have to look for Class A CAT 5 cables which would cost around 2 to 3k per box.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 18, 2003 at 02:44 PM
Mdsaint,

Pre before I used gauge 12 transparent wire ok din then tried Ixos 6003 (purple) I notice mas smooth and clean sound ng highs and mids tapos experiment with another brand Ecosse ata iba rin yun sound clean (high/mid) and more define yun bass.

Mission/HK combo gamit ko

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Jun 18, 2003 at 02:57 PM
i hope someone with an onkyo - wharf combi can recommend a good set of wires to match..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Jairus on Jun 19, 2003 at 07:59 AM
Hi guys, I am about to buy 8.1s for surround. How do you position them?  According doon sa Dolby site, ideally it should be to the side of the main listening position firing towards the listener (actually, slightly behind the listener) and elevated about 2-3 ft from the main listeners ears.  What works best for you?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: losi_phile on Jun 19, 2003 at 08:54 AM
Jairus : What the Dolby site suggested is already good.  That's my set-up right now, bought 4ft surround stand kasi wala akong wall na pwedeng pagkabitan ng surround eh.  For further readings, try this site:

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article.asp?section_id=2&article_id=242&page_number=1
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Jun 19, 2003 at 09:21 AM
Hi guys, I am about to buy 8.1s for surround. How do you position them?  According doon sa Dolby site, ideally it should be to the side of the main listening position firing towards the listener (actually, slightly behind the listener) and elevated about 2-3 ft from the main listeners ears.  What works best for you?

Thats how i position my surrounds ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ras1842 on Jun 20, 2003 at 07:25 AM
Hi guys, I am about to buy 8.1s for surround. How do you position them?  According doon sa Dolby site, ideally it should be to the side of the main listening position firing towards the listener (actually, slightly behind the listener) and elevated about 2-3 ft from the main listeners ears.  What works best for you?

Yung akin I used to have the 8.1 pero ni-replace ko ng 8.2.  The latter has a better edge than 8.1.   With the 8.2, before I used to have them 3 feet above the listener's ear pero mukhang masyadong mataas at hindi mo dinig yong sound.  Recently, what I did was, I reduced to almost just up to the level of the listener's ear at ok na.

Pero what I'm thinking is that, the previous setup should have been the appropriate one, kaso lang seguro you have to fire the speakers to the listener by tilting it down?????  So that, with this setup, the sound of helicopter rotor blades should be felt/heard "above" and NOT just the level of the your ear.  What do you think?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Jairus on Jun 20, 2003 at 09:04 AM
Jairus : What the Dolby site suggested is already good.  That's my set-up right now, bought 4ft surround stand kasi wala akong wall na pwedeng pagkabitan ng surround eh.  For further readings, try this site:

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article.asp?section_id=2&article_id=242&page_number=1

pre..thanks! the article is quite practical, will try it out...jairus
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ADM202E on Jun 21, 2003 at 09:42 PM
Guys, ok ba itong setup na ito: yamaha 530+Diamond8.1+WH-2+DQ12?

Advise naman po!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jun 22, 2003 at 01:45 AM
Guys, ok ba itong setup na ito: yamaha 530+Diamond8.1+WH-2+DQ12?

Advise naman po!

Get a Diamond 8c rather than Wh2 center speaker. The Wh2 surround is good enough. You may buy the Wh2 set and and the Diamond 8c then sell the wh2 center later. Or if you are satisfied with the sound of wh2 center, then go for it.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 22, 2003 at 04:51 PM
Jon,

Ok din Wh-2 but 8.1 is better if budget permit go for Diamond 8.1 all the way (4 pcs) and like Philander said get the Diamond 8 for your center channel musically mas ok yan 8.1 for your receiver try to audition other AVR to match your wharf speaker like Onkyo, Marantz, & Hk

then get the best sounding combo for you.  :D :D

Happy hunting pre
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: shine on Jun 23, 2003 at 01:02 AM
since na-try ko na mag bi-wire sa 8.4 ko at wala akong makitang effect sa sound...gusto ko sana i-try na palitan yung metal niya.

question...ano dapat ang ilagay ko for a substitute? im using ixos 6006 speaker cable
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mojako on Jun 23, 2003 at 01:38 AM
jon,
sakto yung sinabi ni philander.  That's what happened to me, got the wh-2 center, pina tweak ko, pero hindi pa rin ako na kontento, tuloy, bumili akong diamond center.  The sound is much more full.  Ngayon kontento na ko
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: positive_noise on Jun 23, 2003 at 01:52 PM
Hi Bro,

I'm planning to buy diamond 8 center.. does anybody know the phone# of the ambassador (megamall) and currently how much does it cost?

Thanks!
positive_noise
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 24, 2003 at 12:09 PM
Shine,

Just use you Ixos 6006 just cut around 1 1/2..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ADM202E on Jun 24, 2003 at 12:17 PM
Get a Diamond 8c rather than Wh2 center speaker. The Wh2 surround is good enough. You may buy the Wh2 set and and the Diamond 8c then sell the wh2 center later. Or if you are satisfied with the sound of wh2 center, then go for it.

Philander and Hans Adriane, thanks dudes! 'Will consider it.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jun 24, 2003 at 12:32 PM
Hi Bro,

I'm planning to buy diamond 8 center.. does anybody know the phone# of the ambassador (megamall) and currently how much does it cost?

Thanks!
positive_noise

sights and sounds park square one makati diamond 8 center 4k roughly around 3.8k sa ambassador
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ADM202E on Jun 24, 2003 at 12:45 PM
sights and sounds park square one makati diamond 8 center 4k roughly around 3.8k sa ambassador

Dude, spectra makati are at P3780.

About Ambassador, maybe you can ask their megamall branch:
ambassador:
 -greenhills= 7210905; 7214932 - beth
 -makati=8930667; 8930668 - virgie

Okidok!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8.3 Owners
Post by: mdsaint3 on Jun 25, 2003 at 06:12 AM
has anyone here put sand on their speakers yet? what type of sand did you put? around how much weight did you put? thanks
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: positive_noise on Jun 25, 2003 at 07:54 AM
jon,

thanks for the info pare...

positive_noise!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: fandvd on Jun 25, 2003 at 08:02 PM
oo nga pala...sa 8.3 ba pede rin lagyan ng sand? ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jun 25, 2003 at 08:20 PM
oo nga pala...sa 8.3 ba pede rin lagyan ng sand? ;D

Yes. Ingatan mo nga lang yung pagbukas ng port para malagyan ng sand.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Jun 25, 2003 at 10:25 PM
8.3 owners .. how did you open the small plastic to put in the sand? did you just pull it out? or twist it out? thanks.. or how did you do it? dont want to yank it..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ADM202E on Jun 26, 2003 at 08:27 AM
8.3 owners .. how did you open the small plastic to put in the sand? did you just pull it out? or twist it out? thanks.. or how did you do it? dont want to yank it..

Dudes, im not quite aware of this, but what could be the significant effects of doing sands on the speakers?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sillyputty on Jun 26, 2003 at 10:11 AM
di ko pa nagawa to(using 8.4). baka pwedeng ilagay mo sa maliliit na plastic bags yung sand, yapos tsaka mo ilusot sa port.  ???
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Jun 26, 2003 at 11:32 PM
yeah thats my plan parang ilagay sa ice candy plastic..hehe.. pero di ko pa na try i open yun plastic port.. di ko lam pano eh..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: fildeps on Jun 27, 2003 at 09:03 AM
May nakapag-post na dito regarding sa paglalagay ng sandbags sa floorstanders niya.. i think dito rin sa thread na to... browse mo mga recent pages.. makikita niyo yun!!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: v0elker on Jun 27, 2003 at 10:06 AM
since maraming wharfedales dito sa pinas, meron din ba yung mga stores nung models from the pacific evolution line? TIA!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: AVDude on Jul 04, 2003 at 12:09 PM
Hi!..me nakakaalam  ba dto kung magkano ngayon yun HK5500..kasi am planning to replace my yammie 596 driving a pair of 8.1's, a center and a pair of diamond DFS. ....I wanna try yun 6.1 or 7.1 ..DTS-ES and matrix ba din yun HK5500? is this better that yun regular DTS? mas ok ba yun ES kesa matrix?

saka i saw in the net yun HK525..preho  ba nito yun HK5500?

and do you guys think this will improve the high's in my 8.1...kasi for my setup to sound nice..have to put the treble to 1:00 position

Peace  8)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: pukx on Jul 04, 2003 at 12:18 PM
Hi!..me nakakaalam  ba dto kung magkano ngayon yun HK5500..kasi am planning to replace my yammie 596 driving a pair of 8.1's, a center and a pair of diamond DFS. ....I wanna try yun 6.1 or 7.1 ..DTS-ES and matrix ba din yun HK5500? is this better that yun regular DTS? mas ok ba yun ES kesa matrix?

saka i saw in the net yun HK525..preho  ba nito yun HK5500?

and do you guys think this will improve the high's in my 8.1...kasi for my setup to sound nice..have to put the treble to 1:00 position

Peace  8)

sir AVDude, si sir courage yata naka H/K AVR5500 you can ask him kung magkano score nya dun sa unit n'ya... pero pagkaalam ko mga 34-35K yata presyo n'yan.  :)

AVR2550 = 17K
AVR3550 = 22K

pukx 8)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Jul 04, 2003 at 12:50 PM
Hi!..me nakakaalam  ba dto kung magkano ngayon yun HK5500..kasi am planning to replace my yammie 596 driving a pair of 8.1's, a center and a pair of diamond DFS. ....I wanna try yun 6.1 or 7.1 ..DTS-ES and matrix ba din yun HK5500? is this better that yun regular DTS? mas ok ba yun ES kesa matrix?

saka i saw in the net yun HK525..preho  ba nito yun HK5500?

and do you guys think this will improve the high's in my 8.1...kasi for my setup to sound nice..have to put the treble to 1:00 position

Peace  8)

Bro the price of the 5500 is 34k at Spectra and Archi. Audio.

And nope the AVR525 is not the 5500 yung 5500 ang counterpart nya sa US eh AVR520 while the counterpart of AVR525 here is the AVR5550 which is already a 7.1 receiber at naka DD EX na while yung 5500 eh DTS ES lang and 5.1 upgradable to 7.1.

Hope dis helps
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: AVDude on Jul 04, 2003 at 02:06 PM
Bro the price of the 5500 is 34k at Spectra and Archi. Audio.

And nope the AVR525 is not the 5500 yung 5500 ang counterpart nya sa US eh AVR520 while the counterpart of AVR525 here is the AVR5550 which is already a 7.1 receiber at naka DD EX na while yung 5500 eh DTS ES lang and 5.1 upgradable to 7.1.

Hope dis helps

Thanks pukx and Courage  :)

btw..me idea ka pa sa price range nun AVR5550? and cnong retailer meron?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Jul 04, 2003 at 02:34 PM
Thanks pukx and Courage  :)

btw..me idea ka pa sa price range nun AVR5550? and cnong retailer meron?

No idea pa on the price pero sabi nila eh very much higher daw ang price nyan sa AVR5500, tapos baka by september pa ang dating
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Jul 04, 2003 at 03:08 PM
just get the 5500 then get an outboard amp later. dd-ex is not really discrete, any dolby digital movie can be matrixed to DD-EX. your wharfs should sing with the hk's
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: AVDude on Jul 05, 2003 at 09:12 AM
just get the 5500 then get an outboard amp later. dd-ex is not really discrete, any dolby digital movie can be matrixed to DD-EX. your wharfs should sing with the hk's

Ganun ba john5479...pinagiisipan ko nga kung yun AVR5500 or the AVR3550...dba 7.1 na yun 3550? same sya nun AVR325 sa net. kaya its a choice if i want more power or more features.

Sabagay tingin ko kayang kaya na cguro ng 50W yun 8.1 since ngayon nga am using yammie V596...w/ i think 105watts max yun e.

What do you guys think?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sillyputty on Jul 05, 2003 at 02:14 PM
actually, yung AVR225 ang kaparehas ng 3550. 5.1 lang siya.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: AVDude on Jul 05, 2003 at 08:06 PM
actually, yung AVR225 ang kaparehas ng 3550. 5.1 lang siya.


hehe hilo na ata ako..medyo magulo yan HK ano..dapat kasi di na nila pinalitan yun model number for US and ASIA...

anyways so ano yun katumbas nun AVR325? me idea ka din ba magkano yun?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Jul 07, 2003 at 08:57 AM
hehe hilo na ata ako..medyo magulo yan HK ano..dapat kasi di na nila pinalitan yun model number for US and ASIA...

anyways so ano yun katumbas nun AVR325? me idea ka din ba magkano yun?

AVR 325 i think is the HK AVR4550 which i think will not be available here in the philippines because halos same price sya nang AVR5500 kaya ang ilalabas dito eh yung AVR5550. That is what Arch audio told me, pero wait ka lang, malay mo.

And isa pa i think may nagbebenta dito nang AVR 325 i just dont know kung nabenta na. Only prob is 110 sya pero a good Step Up regulator or a transformer will fix that. :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: BuLLeT on Jul 08, 2003 at 01:15 PM
People,

To those who own Diamond 8.1 speakers, maybe you might want to read this review form a Malaysian review site.

http://202.186.86.35/audio/story.asp?file=/2002/8/22/audiofile/22wharfedale

 ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Jairus on Jul 08, 2003 at 02:09 PM
Anybody here using Diamond DFS for surrounds? Are they any good?  I'm was thinking of getting the 8.1s for surround but read somewhere that dipolar speakers supposedly sounds better in movies.  Any comments please.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 08, 2003 at 02:23 PM
i tried using diamond dfs (naka-hiram ako for a day). not designed for music, for ht ok siya and it does compliment my 8.4's and 8c.  used for music , medyo di ko na-appreciate since mids nya is malakas (or is it my ears).  i removed it and  connected my 8.1s' uli, naging balance lahat for music.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: AVDude on Jul 09, 2003 at 08:09 AM
i tried using diamond dfs (naka-hiram ako for a day). not designed for music, for ht ok siya and it does compliment my 8.4's and 8c.  used for music , medyo di ko na-appreciate since mids nya is malakas (or is it my ears).  i removed it and  connected my 8.1s' uli, naging balance lahat for music.

yup IMO, maganda nga sya for HT...pero for me ok din sya for music..hmmm..haven't had the chance for trying an 8.1 sa rear so baka nga mas maganda ito.btw,how do you hang a 8.1 sa rear wall..me nabibili na bang bracket for 8.1?

saka alam ko sa DFS...biplolar sya hindi dipolar..anybody here know the diff between a dipole and bipole?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: losi_phile on Jul 09, 2003 at 08:55 AM
AVDude,

Just bought a pair of speaker mount para sa 8.1 ko two weeks ago sa 5th Ave. Megamall for Php575.00/pair (the small one para di halata - not really designed for 8.1 but works just fine) and used Blu Tack to secure my speakers. Mayroon pa rin silang stock doon pero yung malaki na (medyo malaki ang base area kaysa sa 8.1) and worth Php850.00/pair.  

As for bipoles, dipoles and monopoles, here's a quote from www.soundandvisionmag.com :

"Next come the left and right surround speakers. The rules here are a little different than for the front speakers because the surrounds are typically used to create diffuse, ambient sound in order to heighten the illusion of an all-encompassing sonic environment — especially with movie soundtracks. Many surround speakers are dipole or bipole designs that radiate from both front and back to enhance the sense of spaciousness.

But multichannel DVD-Audio or Super Audio CD music recordings tend to sound best when you use direct-radiating, or "monopole," speakers, since they often have smoother frequency response than dipoles and a less diffuse sound quality.

What kind of surround speakers should you go with? If you plan on using your system primarily for movies, I recommend a dipole or bipole design. If for music, use monopoles. If you want the best of both worlds, there are a few receivers that let you switch between two pairs of surround speakers."

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile on Jul 09, 2003 at 09:43 AM

What kind of surround speakers should you go with? If you plan on using your system primarily for movies, I recommend a dipole or bipole design. If for music, use monopoles. If you want the best of both worlds, there are a few receivers that let you switch between two pairs of surround speakers."



I think this is the trend based on what i read on the internet - switchable rears for dipoles and monopoles, for HT and SACD/DVDA, respectively.

Another solution would be to use rear speakers that are configrued like your center channel - horizontal d'apollito arrays.  I think the Concident Eclipse and triumph series use only one configuration for its center and rear channels.  In fact the rears are identical to the center in every way except that the rears are not shielded (what for anywaw?)  The center channel usuualy has a very wide dispersion which could approximate that of dipoles/bipoles.  So you get direct-firing monopole advantage and the wide dispersion trait of dipoles.  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 09, 2003 at 11:06 AM
yup IMO, maganda nga sya for HT...pero for me ok din sya for music..hmmm..haven't had the chance for trying an 8.1 sa rear so baka nga mas maganda ito.btw,how do you hang a 8.1 sa rear wall..me nabibili na bang bracket for 8.1?

saka alam ko sa DFS...biplolar sya hindi dipolar..anybody here know the diff between a dipole and bipole?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 09, 2003 at 11:18 AM
yup IMO, maganda nga sya for HT...pero for me ok din sya for music..hmmm..haven't had the chance for trying an 8.1 sa rear so baka nga mas maganda ito.btw,how do you hang a 8.1 sa rear wall..me nabibili na bang bracket for 8.1?

saka alam ko sa DFS...biplolar sya hindi dipolar..anybody here know the diff between a dipole and bipole?

i was trying to consider dfs as rears (as they were designed for it) but again considering that i'm also going to use the setup for music, i decided to go for the 8.1s plus i noticed from other wharfedale owners that they are using 8.1s instead of dfs but again its really up to you if  the dfs or the 8.1s do better for surrounds.  try mo muna i-audition both before spending.

there are a lot of mounting brackets available in the market (iba-iba pa yung mga styles).  got mine at ace hardware (plugging, ahehehehe) for Php 600.00. as far as i know, wala pa ako nakita specifically designed for diamonds.  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: theman on Jul 10, 2003 at 02:40 PM
can't open the link.

can you cut and paste for us to read. many thanks, theman





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People,

To those who own Diamond 8.1 speakers, maybe you might want to read this review form a Malaysian review site.

http://202.186.86.35/audio/story.asp?file=/2002/8/22/audiofile/22wharfedale

 ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jul 10, 2003 at 02:44 PM
http://202.186.86.35/audio/story.asp?file=/2002/8/22/audiofile/22wharfedale (http://202.186.86.35/audio/story.asp?file=/2002/8/22/audiofile/22wharfedale)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Audioboy on Jul 10, 2003 at 02:50 PM
Diamonds are a girl&#8217;s best friend
By CHERYL GOH

Model: Wharfedale Diamond 8.1 loudspeakers

Price: RM1,040 per pair

Distributed by CMS ELECTRONICS (M) SDN BHD (Tel: 03-4294-9808), 91G Jalan Pandan Indah 4/6B, Pandan Indah, 55100 Kuala Lumpur / E-mail: [email protected]

IT&#8217;S that time of year again when I&#8217;m feeling a little neither here nor there. The weekends pass by in the blink of an eye and I find myself staring intensely at this year&#8217;s calendar hoping to find a red-circled date indicating a public holiday. Unfortunately the one measly holiday bestowed upon us this merry month happens to fall on a Saturday.

 
MIGHTY MITE ... the diminutive Wharfedale Diamond 8.1 speakers have a sound that belies its size.  
Hit by the realisation of three more strenuous weeks, the slump into yet another black hole of endless working hours and perennial eye bags begins. This is when I tell myself that I need to chill out and hang loose for a second or two &#8211; I&#8217;m in definite need of a hot cup of coffee, comfortable sofa and Enya. That a pair of visiting Wharfedale Diamond 8.1 speakers, the latest incarnation of that 1980&#8217;s gem that helped bring respectability to budget, small speakers, did something to clear a little of that gloom.

It&#8217;s all in the cut
The Wharfedale Diamond 8.1 is the smallest in the 8 series range, which consists of bookshelves and large floorstanders such as the 8.3 and 8.4. I remember years ago, when I was shopping around for a budget home cinema set-up, I came across the little Wharfedale surrounds that were at the time the tiniest surround speakers I had ever seen. This was when I was first introduced to these British speakers; at the time, the brand was focused mainly on budget speakers.

When I first received the Diamonds, I expected them to come in a much smaller box &#8211; the Diamonds were larger in size than I thought. I had just about enough lugging these cartons up my two-storey staircase. Thankfully, what followed it was fun and worth the hassle.

The speaker measures 296 x 198 x 181mm (h/w/d), and unlike my Mission 751&#8217;s, the Wharfedale was indeed a slim speaker. I removed the front black spongy grille and exposed a yellow-coloured 130mm Kevlar cone staring right back at me. Now, where had I seen this before? Ah yes &#8230; how could anyone forget? B&W was the first to come up with these weaved Kevlar cones that reminds me very much of a beehive, for some strange reason.

The front panel underneath the grille was coloured a matte champagne silver, very similar to that of the Yamaha range of speakers, only a little duller. Despite the champagne silver panelling, the yellow Kevlar cone matched it perfectly. Pace your eyes a little higher and you&#8217;ll find a 25mm silk fabric dome tweeter with ferrofluid cooling. We aren&#8217;t quite supposed to touch these delicate tweeters, but if I had they would have felt soft and spongy to the touch.

Turn the speaker around &#8211; by carefully handling the edges of the cherry veneer &#8211; and you&#8217;re greeted with two pairs of 4mm bi-wiring gold-plated binding posts that are connected by gold plated links for single wiring options. The rest of the specs are quite standard, if a little lower end of the scale, with 86dB sensitivity and six-ohm impedance. By the looks of it, a beefy amp is needed to drive these Diamonds. Recommended power handling is about 100 watts, so my faithful Micromega Miniums would be more than adequate.

 
ALMOST BULLETPROOF ... note the Kevlar mid/bass drives on the Wharfedale Diamond 8.1 speakers.
Diamond in the rough
Ancillaries used were the usual; two Micromega Minium integrated amps in mono alongside a pair of Musical Fidelity XA50 monoblocks. Source was a Marantz CD67 CD player linked to the amps via a Musical Fidelity X10D buffer with modified valves. The Diamonds were placed on my seriously rusty sand-filled Apollo AZ stands (must have been wet sand that they filled it with). Speaker cables were two metre runs of AudioQuest Indigo+ cable and interconnects were one metre runs of AudioQuest Quartz. To all those who have been reading my articles from day one, yes I know I need an upgrade. Care to donate? Hand-me-downs are always welcome (Tsk, tsk, resorting to such tactics &#8230; &#8211; A.L.)

The time had come after a tiring set-up session to test the mettle of the Diamonds. They, like any other pair of speakers, would need first to be run in to loosen them up. It was time for TechTV anyway, so I thought I&#8217;d let them run in for a bit while I kept myself informed of all the lovely electronic gadgets out there.

A couple of hours passed. I must have dozed off. It was now time to make the most important decision of the day. What should I play? This has never been something easy for me to do. I started rummaging through my DIY CD drawer looking for something decent to start with. Well, there it was, sitting all dusty and worn from overuse, was the album I was looking for. Enya&#8217;s Only Time, from the Sweet November album is a personal fave, and this was good time to relive the memories.

Flipping to track number three, I sat back in my comfy sofa and waited to see what the Diamonds could offer me. Could they live up to their expectations of being a What Hi-Fi 2001 award winner? The track started off with Enya&#8217;s trademark echoey feel; background ambience reached far and wide way beyond the expected radius of the little Diamonds. The lingering sibilance added a touch of enigma to the piece as Enya&#8217;s church-like chant echoed round the room. Ambient music such as this tend to sound great on almost any system, so I was still at this point unconvinced of the Diamond&#8217;s true abilities.

Next up was R.Kelly&#8217;s Gotham City from the Batman soundtrack. The distinct blow of punchy bass sets this piece apart from any other. Here, it hit hard and deep despite the tiny size of the Diamonds. Tight and precise, the hypnotic pounding was portrayed in all its glory as it kept in rhythm with the singer&#8217;s voice, which was rich and deep, as it should be in this piece with each and every emotion laid bare. Gospel-like singers hummed beautifully in the background, each in their place, on centre stage. As the music faded out and the voices of children bellowed down the corridor, the sounds of tom toms were loud and clear, yet not overwhelming.

I was beginning to truly like these Diamonds. They were able to portray even the smallest detail in a convincing manner.

I loaded something a little less punchy like Madonna&#8217;s reminiscent American Pie. Not many speakers this level can cope with the Queen of Pop and I was glad that the Diamond was one of them that could. Madonna&#8217;s shallow monotones were crystal clear yet not lacking in richness or depth.

The psychedelic background synthesiser throb sizzled in its entire colour and chaos, yet never overwhelming the main vocals. Imaging was also very good. I could imagine Madonna as she swayed from left to right presenting this biographic piece. I had decided by now that I need a dynamic piece to truly push the Diamonds to their limit.

In my CD drawer I went. Guess what I came out with? Faith Evans. The soothing tones of Mrs Notorious B.I.G travelled smoothly over each guitar pluck and mouthed bass. Treble was as rich as chocolate cake, and the bass was strong and firm. This baby can most definitely cope with some serious R&B.

The Corrs&#8217; Queen of Hollywood went on next, providing a good showcase of rhythm and melody. With the 8.1&#8217;s, Andrea Corr&#8217;s dreamy vocals were projected forcefully, laced wonderfully with Sharon Corr&#8217;s violin, which never sounded thin or harsh. Keyboard is also distinct and layered with emotion and tonal texture. Enjoyable? Well, I started to sing along with the music, so what more could you ask for than a speaker that&#8217;ll make you sing along?

The last piece, which I just had to try out, was a Gene Pitney track, one I had heard my dad playing on his system a couple of days back, and found I liked. Backstage is beautifully written. Unfortunately it was written about 20 years ago and the recording isn&#8217;t all that great. Only a good speaker will be able to handle the nitty-gritty of this bright and, at the same time, harsh recording. The Diamond 8.1 aced it &#8211; although still bordering on harshness and loads of sibilance, the piece was extremely audible via the speaker.

What a sparkling gem!
For its asking price, the Wharfedale Diamond 8.1 is a little bit of a glittering prize; it handles all genres of music more than competently, with an assuredness and composure that belies its small size and budget tag. It continues the tradition started all those years ago, and excellently at that. Viva la Wharfedale &#8211; you&#8217;ve done it again.

Pros: Punchy and deep bass for its size; excellent vocal clarity with acceptable imaging and widespread soundstage.

Cons: Uhm &#8230; for the price, absolutely zip.

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: BuLLeT on Jul 10, 2003 at 04:17 PM
Take a look at the price people. If I'm not mistaken the the currency equivalent is Php 14.06 = RM and do the computation.

Now check the SRP in local Phil stores.

Is the 8.1 a bargain or is it a steal?hehehe.
I'm not sure if though if it is the European made or the China made 8.1.

I myself have not tried yet the 8.1 for two chnnel music driven by an integrated amp.

Rejoice 8.1 owners...............
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jul 10, 2003 at 04:27 PM
Oo nga no, its about Php 14,600.....
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: AVDude on Jul 10, 2003 at 06:18 PM
does anybody here know if there is really a sonic difference between a british made vs one from china?

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Jairus on Jul 11, 2003 at 07:43 AM
AVDude,

How do you position your Diamond DFS? Sa rear ba as recommended doon sa brochure ng Wharfs or sa sidewalls which is recommended sa Dolby site?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: AVDude on Jul 11, 2003 at 09:47 AM
AVDude,

How do you position your Diamond DFS? Sa rear ba as recommended doon sa brochure ng Wharfs or sa sidewalls which is recommended sa Dolby site?

sa setup ko..i placed it sa rear wall..about 6-7 ft above the floor..i think yun ang recommended duon sa brochure...didnt have the chance to try it sa sides since me windows ako doon sa side na yun and if i did put it there..it will be in a  very low vertical position..kaya hindi din maganda

let me know if maganda sa sides ha (in case subukan mo vs it being in the rear)..baka magdecide akong mag drop ng bracket from the ceiling :)

Peace  8)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: AVDude on Jul 11, 2003 at 11:25 PM
Hi, does anyone happen to know if the Pacific series Wharfs are available already at Ambassador?

Also, any idea about their prices:

EVO-8, EVO-10, EVO-20, EVO-30, EVO-40


Lastly, will Onkyo TX SR600 be a good match with the Wharfs 8.3 or 8.4?

Thanks.

I saw the EVO-10 here sa Thailand..its selling for 17,000 Baht..so that makes it around 22,100 pesos..pero ito lang masasabi...ang ganda ng itsura nya :) aesthetic-wise...winner pero was not able to fully audition it...according doon sa salesperson..it's the hottest selling item they have.. the other items they were selling were Energy, KEF, Monitor Audio and Paradigm..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: johndoe on Jul 20, 2003 at 06:20 PM
THe  NEW  Zaldek series.. :)

A radical departure from the norm, the brand new Zaldek range is designed specifically for the dance and rock music enthusiast. A high-octane blend of adrenaline and power with serious hi-fi undertones, these speakers are for the discerning listener who loves to live life on the edge.
Exceptionally sensitive drive units are used throughout the range to extract every ounce of music power from any amplifier. Hand-wound, massively oversize voice coils provide the impetus for our ultra-lightweight 'True Blue' polypropylene laminate sandwich cones.  These provide a taut, controlled bass response with enough dynamic slam to impress even the most hedonistic hardcore rockers.

The horn-loaded tweeter used on all models in the range provides both excellent directivity and very low distortion. Neodymium powered, Ferro-fluid cooled tweeters produce a clean, crisp treble, with no trace of harshness. A good tweeter is all about timing, and these beauties have the accuracy necessary to produce a vivid and expansive stereo image well beyond the confines of the listening area.

Using a horn-loaded mid-range extends these virtues down through the frequency spectrum to the point where directivity is no longer important and the bass drivers take over. A strong, MDF cabinet finishes the job, ensuring that the maximum amount of energy is employed in the act of producing music.

Whilst every effort has been made to ensure these speakers will produce simply awesome sound pressure levels from even the most modest amplification, these are not the blunt instruments that many speakers in this mould become, for although their power is incredible, the refinement and precision expected from Wharfedale speakers remains undiluted - they are truly gentle giants.

(http://images.bestbuy.com/BestBuy_US/images/products/4854/4854759_sa.jpg)

(http://www.iagamerica.com/wharfedale/zalc.jpg)


(http://www.iagamerica.com/wharfedale/Zal_front.jpg)

(http://www.iagamerica.com/wharfedale/zalgrp.jpg)

i like those blue cone speakers.. ;D

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jerix on Jul 21, 2003 at 08:48 AM
wow!

available na ba sa local market ang ZALDEK series na to bro? and how much naman kaya? --  ::)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Jul 21, 2003 at 03:10 PM
made a comparison... 8.3 and 8.1 as fronts.. all i can say is... 8.1 sounds so much better!!!!  just wait for it to get broken in.. 8.3 has good bass in my opinion..problema highs nasasapawan ...  siguro ok ang 8,3 if paired with ixos 6006 cables.. bi wiring also helps
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: johndoe on Jul 21, 2003 at 07:12 PM
wow!

available na ba sa local market ang ZALDEK series na to bro? and how much naman kaya? --  ::)
i think di pa to available dito..since kakarelease lang nito sa US..

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jul 21, 2003 at 07:17 PM
wow!

available na ba sa local market ang ZALDEK series na to bro? and how much naman kaya? --  ::)

If I am not mistaken I saw this speakers at ParkSquare 1 (A/V Shop besides Columbia Computers). Not sure though.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: johndoe on Jul 21, 2003 at 07:29 PM
kung available na to...cguro mas mahal to nang konti sa diamond series..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: theman on Jul 22, 2003 at 07:17 AM

meron yata ang zaldek sa greenhills. try unique.

as for the major drawback of diamond series, the front is not shielded. mahirap tuloy kung maliit ang iyung bahay, like me, where you need to cramp the speakers with the  tv.

i think they should have the front speakers shielded, just like mission.

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Jul 22, 2003 at 09:46 AM
If I am not mistaken I saw this speakers at ParkSquare 1 (A/V Shop besides Columbia Computers). Not sure though.

yup its available there, a shop in raon has these zaldeks as well
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jul 22, 2003 at 09:50 AM
and they are bulky.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: positive_noise on Jul 22, 2003 at 01:08 PM
Hi Bro,

I called before micro phils. (the distributor of whafedale) and it is already available here sa pinas! If I recall right they say its 9K++

Regards,
positive_noise!  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jofkevski on Jul 22, 2003 at 01:30 PM
made a comparison... 8.3 and 8.1 as fronts.. all i can say is... 8.1 sounds so much better!!!!  just wait for it to get broken in.. 8.3 has good bass in my opinion..problema highs nasasapawan ...  siguro ok ang 8,3 if paired with ixos 6006 cables.. bi wiring also helps

This is in fact my observation and its one consideration I have to let go of my 8.3 in favor of 8.1 - the primary is to maintain identical speakers in all channels (4 channels withcenter just phantomed or imaged).

However, I have a different experience with 8.3 siguro dahil marble floor and cemented walls ang listening room ko without carpet. I have difficulty having my 8.3 to sound right. I am getting unlistenable bass and awkward high and mid. Tried a lot of toeing in to no avail.

I encountered a forum about a guy who owned a van alstine high end speaker who tried 8.3. He too have so much difficulty until he found the trick on his 8.3 - heavily toed-in.

Thus, I made the 8.3 heavily toed in and the result is a good tonal balance of 8.3 just like the 8.1. The guy later concluded that 8.3 is indeed high end, and put aside his van alstine for a while to enjoy the 8.3 (though not sure what he did now).

So, I found it with so much time (as far as my listening area is concerned) to have 8.3 sound as 8.1 and could have enjoyed so much the 8.3 had it not for space constraint that I have to select 8.1 in favor of 8.3. But I will not have any  reservation to put back 8.3 as my front than the 8.1 for listening alone.

The americans really have difficulty sourcing diamond series in their area (very scarce) kasi madami US brand na so so. And when they do, it is very expensive, tapos may kasama pang shipping charges. Siguro, our proximity to China made it advantegeous for us guys to enjoy diamonds at our cost - I mean very cheap cost.

Todate, diamonds still remains the best in performance for the value.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Jul 22, 2003 at 05:22 PM
agree..mine was well toed in too!!! i guess my room accoustics helped :) . The 8.3 is still a good buy for its price
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: boybi on Jul 22, 2003 at 09:06 PM
ano po yung toed in?  ???
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Jul 22, 2003 at 10:16 PM
the speakers are angled towards the listener.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: boybi on Jul 22, 2003 at 10:35 PM
oh, thanks.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: losi_phile on Jul 22, 2003 at 10:45 PM
Me too, I'm enjoying my 8.3s even more now.  Its been set-up toed-in ever since I got hold of it ( close to 30 to 35 degrees yung angle and about 8ft apart) but nung matapos akong mag-braid ng cat5 utp cables and installed it to the 8.3s para na siyang 8.1s na mas maganda at malakas ang bigay ng bass.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: AVDude on Jul 22, 2003 at 11:04 PM
(http://www.iagamerica.com/wharfedale/evorange1.jpg)

The Pacific Evolution series from Wharfedale has been conceived as the natural successor to the critically-acclaimed Pacific series. It builds upon the strong foundations and reinforces our aim to introduce designs, materials and components normally reserved for high-end products costing several thousands of pounds, into loudspeakers which are not only affordable, they are practical and usable on an everyday basis.
These have a cleaner, more dynamic sound than any speaker in their class. Our drivers are fast and accurate to present music with exceptional neutrality and resolution. Bass-hangover is all-but eliminated bacause cabinet standing waves cannot form with curved sides and correctly angled bracing.

Evolution is totally 'state-of-the-art'. Curved, low resonance multiple-braced MDF cabinets, Bi-directional UVstabilised KEVLAR drivers, ultra high-gauss neodymium magnets, isolated alloy tweeter pod, heavy-duty gold plated and screened bi-wire terminals, most manufacturers would be charging $3000 upwards even for the smaller models, whereas our prices range from just $400 to $1000 for the large Pacific EVO-40.

The elegant curved cabinets are finished in a choice of real wood veneers. You can have black, maple, or rosewood, with a piano gloss black model (there may be a small premium for piano gloss finishes)  to follow shortly.


* sana paglabas nito...a little bit more expensive than diamond but lower than mission para maka-upgrade kagad :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jerix on Jul 23, 2003 at 08:16 AM
Me too, I'm enjoying my 8.3s even more now.  Its been set-up toed-in ever since I got hold of it ( close to 30 to 35 degrees yung angle and about 8ft apart) but nung matapos akong mag-braid ng cat5 utp cables and installed it to the 8.3s para na siyang 8.1s na mas maganda at malakas ang bigay ng bass.

other comments here and this one, give me the impression that 8.1 is really better than the 8.3---  ::) this seems to be very ironic kasi mas mahal ung 8.3--- would u guys share me a good reason why despite the observation of so many wharf owners about the performance of the 8.1 against the 8.3, e marami pa rin yatang naghahangad sa 8.3?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Jul 23, 2003 at 08:34 AM
other comments here and this one, give me the impression that 8.1 is really better than the 8.3---  ::) this seems to be very ironic kasi mas mahal ung 8.3--- would u guys share me a good reason why despite the observation of so many wharf owners about the performance of the 8.1 against the 8.3, e marami pa rin yatang naghahangad sa 8.3?

Well my 8.3 really sounds good....
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jul 23, 2003 at 10:27 AM
Well my 8.3 really sounds good....

And that is because of the Receiver you are using...
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sillyputty on Jul 23, 2003 at 11:01 AM
And that is because of the Receiver you are using...

tumpak! if your receiver have enough juice, using 8.3/8.4 is a good choice. I'm using 8.4 and I don't feel the need for a sub....well maybe for the megabass heavy scenes(pero nagigising na baby ko nun..)...
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Audioboy on Jul 23, 2003 at 11:11 AM
I have been to gerry's grill lately and saw the diamond speakers mounted on every corner of their wall. If im not mistaken those are 8.2s. I was impressed how they sung. I then tried to look  on what amp they are using and found a rotel feeding the power on them. I didnt inquire about the rotel's power but indeed the combination is great!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jerix on Jul 23, 2003 at 11:12 AM
Maybe then, the 8.3 needs a powerful receiver to bring out its best. in your opinion bros, what brands or types of receiver in the market ba ang the best for the sa 8.3?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jofkevski on Jul 23, 2003 at 11:16 AM
It is not the receiver. There is a lot of 8.3 users including mine that liked it sounds that does not use the same receiver.

Toeing in 8.1 is different in toeing in 8.3. this is what i have found on both of them in positioning them to get the best results.

With my 8.1 toeing in is not really a critical item. In any angle, the 8.1 sounds very much the same.

However, my 8.3 seemed to be more illusive. Toeing in is not really having your speakers fronting you (not always). And this I learned with the guy I come across with in a separate forum who owned van alstine. Again, might be because of my lsitening area spanning  13 feet apart, and because I dont have any other option but to put my speakers on each corner - toeing in is something more of experimentation than simple facing your speaker towards the llistening point.

After toeing the speakers in at about 45 degrees or a little less, the awkward sound was transformed into a relaxing well-balanced tone that I almost did not stop listening and replay all my previous CDs without me noticing it is already early morning.

So for therest of you, it depends on listening area, distance between speakers, toed-in angle, and so forth. it really pays to experiment on positioning.

Replacing receiver is not the cure - it might just be another problem waiting to occur.

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jul 23, 2003 at 11:27 AM
Nobody is saying one should replace his/her receiver.

It is the Receiver.

Oh, don't tell me that even if my receiver is a low-current amplifier with just 5 watts of power and my Diamond 6ohms 8.3 will sound good with it.

It is the Receiver.

Courage's Receiver is powerful, high-current and can even drive a hard-driven 4ohms-speaker, wharfedale diamonds are somewhat hard to drive.

and it is because of the receiver.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 23, 2003 at 11:46 AM
yup, diamonds are power hungry speakers.  in order for them to sound great.  i tried rxv 430 yammies for my 8.4s, ang sagwa nung tunog!this is before i bought denon 1803s'. bought  denon 1803 to power them and changed the cables.  now, my diamonds are singing.  in my opinion, diamonds need mid to high end receivers (marantz, onky, hk, denon and the likes, yung mga mid level models).
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Jul 23, 2003 at 11:58 AM
meaning if i bought an 8.3/sakura combo.. would i still get the quality of music from an 8.3/hk combo.. if its really the speaker placement... i can allot my whole week or even a month finding the sweetest spot for it rather than spending for an HK amp..  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 23, 2003 at 12:28 PM
if you're goal is just to have an HT setup then you can go for the sakura.  but if you're into it for enjoyment and as a hobby then go for the hk.  plain and simple, you don't want to spend on something that is not worth it, diba.  i've heard a sakura/8.3 combo (this is just me), sound is lousy.  hk/8.3 combo is very good.  definitely you would'nt get the same quality of sound.  placement of speakers is just another item   in the list that you should consider in HT setup
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Jul 23, 2003 at 12:49 PM
Nobody is saying one should replace his/her receiver.

It is the Receiver.

Oh, don't tell me that even if my receiver is a low-current amplifier with just 5 watts of power and my Diamond 6ohms 8.3 will sound good with it.

It is the Receiver.

Courage's Receiver is powerful, high-current and can even drive a hard-driven 4ohms-speaker, wharfedale diamonds are somewhat hard to drive.

and it is because of the receiver.

I do agree, its really beacause of the receiver. I experienced using Yamaha, Denon, NAD and HK without changing the position of the speakers, so far ibat iba ang quality nang tunog na lumalabas sa speakers ko. the best ang sound nang HK sa wharfs, then NAD then Yamaha(Movies Only) then denon. Base on comparison among the 4 HK ang pinakamagandang mag drive sa Wharfs. But its just me. ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Jul 23, 2003 at 04:39 PM
SEBMAN..kayang kaya ng hk mo yun wharfs!!!! Also..speaker placement is important.. 8.3's should be away from corners and walls.. This is one thing I also observed

thanks sir mdsaint3. parang sasabog nga yung wharfedale valdus 100 ko pag nilalakasan ko yung volume e.. yung valdus center e yakang yaka.. galing ng tunog.. next in line.. m73i.. idol kita e.. galing ng setup mo.. pre pa-pm naman kung san available yung mga materials that you used don sa ht rack mo.. sakakung me contact number and person ka din kung saang hardware yun mabibili.. wala sa ace dito sa megamall e.. saka yung mga hardware sa min.. thanks
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: losi_phile on Jul 23, 2003 at 08:34 PM
Hey guys, what are the symptoms that show na nahihirapan i-drive ng isang avr ang mga speakers?  I have 8.3s as fronts and an entry level pioneer avr rated at 100 watts into 8ohms.  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: boybi on Jul 23, 2003 at 09:24 PM
oo nga, pano ba malalaman kung hirap i-drive yung speakers. in my case JVC AVR to 8.1

medyo OT:
when i played the CD of Enya (LOTR FOTR soundtrack "May It Be"), turned the volume halfway, parang napupunit yung isang WH2 surround speakers ko. does this mean hindi kaya ng WH2 yung receiver ko? sa ibang CDs and watching movies ok naman sya. mataas kasi boses ni enya.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: theman on Jul 24, 2003 at 07:26 AM


i was thinking if i buy a dfs speakers worth 4.4k , i have 4 kevlar speakers.  maybe i could  use the drivers and have a floorstanding custom made by nirvbalkr/doc mel. my assumption is the price is in pair na. enclosure can be improved to increase the bass/lfe.

pareho silang 130mm ng 8.1.

comments please.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Jul 24, 2003 at 08:04 AM
Hey guys, what are the symptoms that show na nahihirapan i-drive ng isang avr ang mga speakers?  I have 8.3s as fronts and an entry level pioneer avr rated at 100 watts into 8ohms.  

When u hear distortion at high volume
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jerix on Jul 24, 2003 at 08:52 AM
Is it really a case ba na NAHIHIRAPAN UNG RECEIVER TO DRIVE THE SPEAKER, or NAHIHIRAPAN UNG SPEAKER  SA POWER NG RECEIVER?  ::)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Jul 24, 2003 at 09:01 AM
you can't expect much power from entry level receivers, most likely the amps lack juice to drive the speakers, so when u turn it up distortion occurs.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sillyputty on Jul 24, 2003 at 09:49 AM
mahihirapan talaga yung ibang receivers sa diamonds. mababa na ang sensitivity(86db) tapos rated at 6ohms pa.

pero kung di naman malakas magpatugtog... no problemo! ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jofkevski on Jul 24, 2003 at 10:07 AM
I dont know how many peope used sakura for their wharf - it might be unlikely combination but it is still workable.

The sound that some guys in this thread experimented with various AVR and made declaration their HK is better than Yamaha (or NAD or Pioneer or Denon and so on) is threading on a subjective issue of their tone inclination, not the strength or weakness of receivers. And if they want to debate it, i will not join them in this thread. I have read enough crap of so called "audiophiles" from this forum. And we have another one here advocating the fraud cable in his speaker. I can not blame him because he paid good money for cable which can be bought for P30 per meter. I hate to hurt his sense of dignity in admitting it was a rip off.

Of course, let it not be assumed that low cost RX-V430 is better then their HK 2550. The fact is RX-V430 is best valued than HK2550 around the world. I will not say HK is bad value than Yamaha - but I seldom see HK in many sensible and reputable reviews beating Yamaha. It is the other way around! Sorry HK lovers, this is diamond thread.

Listening levels normally reach to a max of 20-30watts kung bingi ka. Kung itchy ka naman, you sometimes drive speakers and amp to their limits. the wharfedale diamond has different design philosophy in it - if you read their marketing ploy. They made double turns on the speaker coils (following the lead of BOSE I think using square wires in their coils) to make music resolution better. The trade off is the sensitivity of speaker. However, with cheap hig-powered amp nowadays, sensitivity is not much of an issue. Vacuum tube amp, which normally rated at 1W to about 9W, calls for such. If Philander is refering to an SS amp rated 5Watts, it must be his Cassette/CD radio.

I will post later an article of respected audio engineer than an amp is an amp. And any good amp will always sound with very little differences. HOLD IT! am not the one who said this - I am just relaying the info. I will send the URL to you so you can react to him in this regard.

So, listening to wharfedale can be made by any reputable brand of amp. It is always prudent to filter information before you make wise decision.

In conclusion, wharfedale 8.3 is a good high-end speaker with great value in it. on the midrange - 8.1 is better controlled than 8.3. but 8.3 can stand alone as good music speaker for the whole frequency spectrum. If deep bass is not much of an issue to you, the 8.1 is better recommended.

This is how I conclude it for myself.

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sillyputty on Jul 24, 2003 at 10:11 AM
hehehehe kaya ako, kuntento na ako sa wharf ko.
No plans to upgrade....  8)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 24, 2003 at 11:35 AM
likewise sillyputty, ayaw ko ng magpalit ng speakers. ahehehehe.  me too, no plans of upgrading since ok na yung wharfs ko.  sa avr kuntento na ako, yung 6.1 nga hindi ko magamit since konti palang yung discs na may features na ito.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jerix on Jul 24, 2003 at 11:50 AM
hihihi! ganda talaga magbasa ng mga conflicting insights dito ---  ;D

siguro kung nagpalit ako ng speakers e, the best na yung 6 na 8.1... i dont need speakers with high bass response anyway, my BIG sub can handle it --  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jofkevski on Jul 24, 2003 at 12:22 PM
So here is my rejoinder to all on my latest post:

"It came as no surprise that all the amplifiers in this group were capable of delivering excellent performance in almost any home music system. And provided we kept all of them running within their power limits, we heard nothing that would incline us to prefer one over another. Although some people strongly feel otherwise, good amplifiers of comparable quality and power that are not being overdriven will sound very much alike under most conditions to most people. If amplifiers do sound much alike (and these did), then why bother comparing them? Because there is more to an audio component than it's perceived sound character. There are differences in operational limits (maximum power output into various loads, for example), construction quality and finish, size, weight, price and features that can affect an amplifier's suitability for any particular installation."

High Power Amplifiers by Julian Hirsch
Stereo Review November 1992

http://web.archive.org/web/20011206045221/http://www.sundial.net/~rogerr/truth.htm#goodandbad


Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Jul 24, 2003 at 04:10 PM
its all about system matching, it would really help for buyers if they know the characteristics of the amps used in voicing the speakers they are eyeing.

the way the amp handles the load are one of the reasons why amps have their certain sound when driving speakers. wharfs are like dynaudios in a way...they crave for power in order to sing.

We always want value and listen to opinions and reviews before buying, but in the end its you who will be the judge of what is a better value for you. one that has many features or one that sounds better to you but less features. its your call. If you don't like the sound from a receiver even though its well reviewed why bother? the conditions, environment when the review was done is different from your environment at home.

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: greatness on Jul 24, 2003 at 06:03 PM
john5479,

I totally agree....
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jul 24, 2003 at 06:12 PM
Zaldek series price Info:

(http://www.iagamerica.com/wharfedale/Zal_front.jpg)
(http://www.iagamerica.com/wharfedale/zalgrp.jpg)

Zaldek S300 (Bookshelves) 125w, 6 ohms - Php 7K
Zaldek S1000 (FS 1 woofer) 150w, 6 ohms - Php 8.5K

Available at Parksquare 1.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jul 24, 2003 at 06:19 PM
Wharfedale Fans.

Saw the New Wharfedale Crystal Series at ParkSquare 1.

(http://www.audiocafe.co.kr/admin/sub_image/wha_crystalpac_1.jpg)

(http://www.audiocafe.co.kr/admin/sub_image/wha_crystalpac_3.jpg)


(http://www.audiocafe.co.kr/admin/sub_image/wha_crystalpac_2.jpg)

Its uses  PolyPropylene drivers. The enclosure is a bit smaller then the diamonds.

Personally I like the appearance of the Crystal Series than the Diamond Series.

Price is almost the same as the Diamond Series, just a bit lower.

Just sharing...
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 24, 2003 at 06:29 PM
looks great! looks the same as diamonds, yung wood grain finish.  would'nt the sound of these be diferent as they have smaller enclosures?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Jul 24, 2003 at 06:39 PM
hmmn i'll pay sound dimension a visit tom. then...hope they give their predecessors (diamonds) justice. this one uses polypropylene but woven, much like the b&w dm303's in sense na di nga kevlar yung driver but almost acts the same. the marketing hype says this:

From Led Zepplin to Mozart and from On Golden Ponds to Lord of the Rings, Wharfedale's Cyrstal, the speaker of choice for true audio experience! Two speakers per box

The Crystal series from Wharfedale now introduces a new generation of drive units. Simple polymers formed into complex matrices under high temperatures and pressures to produce an altogether brilliant driver. Crystal loudspeakers are exceptionally clean, refined sound with combines cutting-edge technology, materials and manufacturing techniques with the age-old crafts and skills learned throughout Wharfedale's seventy years at the forefront of hi-fi and acoustic engineering.

Fast and clean, the Crystal series is as comfortable with the demands of complex orchestral pieces as it is with the pounding soundtrack to the latest Hollywood blockbuster. The unique "HWCPP" cones have superb bass clarity. Self-damping in nature, they start and stop instantly, tracking the music signal with a precision previously unheard of in this class of loudspeaker. This is integrated with a 25mm soft-dome tweeter capable of reproducing frequencies well beyond audible range. The total entertaining and involving listen cannot fail to impress both the casual listener and experienced audiophile!


Wharfedale's new cone technology HCWPP (Hot Compacted Woven Polypropylene) exhibits incredible strength, impact resistance, and has better self-damping properties than KEVLAR and yet is lightweight and recyclable! Wharfedale's latest "HCWPP" cone technology mixes the superior strength to weight ratio of fiber braid materials such as KEVLAR with revolutionary self-damping properties never previously available in a single, recyclable material. The HCWPP process forms a material consisting of aligned polypropylene fibres in a matrix of thermoformed polypropylene. The new cone material consists of approximately 80% molecularly aligned fibbers in a matrix of 20% polypropylene resulting from melting and cooling the "skins" of the fibers.


Specifications:

Bass: 5" B/M
Tweeter : 25mm tex
Power: 100 watts
Nominal Imp: 6 Ohms
Sensitivity 1W@1M: 86dB
Frequency Range @-6dB: 55 - 20k
Crossover Frequency: 2.2k
Frequency Fb: 55
Size (HxWxD): 277x192x234
Two Speakers per box per order

this is for the bookshelf, might get one of these if they sound good with my chosen amp :) or try to tweak the insides hehe ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Jul 24, 2003 at 06:40 PM
are these kevlar too? they look good..hope they sound good..any specs? 86db din ba?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 24, 2003 at 07:02 PM
bro, polypropylene.  the material widely used in car speakers (pioneer and alpine uses these for there subs). 86db as posted on john5479's posting.  mas mura daw as per philander.  mukhang ok ito.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jul 24, 2003 at 07:29 PM
Crystal 10 4.8K
Crystal 20 5.9K
Crystal Center 3.8K

Wala pang mga discount yan.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 24, 2003 at 07:36 PM
boss phil, san ka naka-kuha ng price?  hows the performance?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: johndoe on Jul 24, 2003 at 07:38 PM
ung floorstander ba ung crystal 20?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jul 24, 2003 at 07:44 PM
ung floorstander ba ung crystal 20?

Nope. Crystal 20 is like the size of the Diamonds 8.2. I think the floorstander (like in the above picture), is the Crystal 40, if not Crystal 30.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jul 24, 2003 at 07:45 PM
boss phil, san ka naka-kuha ng price?  hows the performance?

Sa sound Dimension, try to call them.

Sorry di ko pa rin narinig.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: johndoe on Jul 24, 2003 at 07:57 PM
Nope. Crystal 20 is like the size of the Diamonds 8.2. I think the floorstander (like in the above picture), is the Crystal 40, if not Crystal 30.
ahh..pero halos mgkaprice rin cla nung diamonds.. ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: theman on Jul 24, 2003 at 08:25 PM
questions;
1.walang review
2. review
3. mas maganda pa sa kevlar
Product Summary
  The Crystal series from Wharfedale now introduces a new generation of drive units. Simple polymers formed into complex matrices under high temperatures and pressures to produce an altogether brilliant driver. Crystal loudspeakers are exceptionally clean, refined sound with combines cutting-edge technology, materials and manufacturing techniques with the age-old crafts and skills learned throughout Wharfedale's seventy years at the forefront of hi-fi and acoustic engineering.

Fast and clean, the Crystal series is as comfortable with the demands of complex orchestral pieces as it is with the pounding soundtrack to the latest Hollywood blockbuster. The unique "HWCPP" cones have superb bass clarity. Self-damping in nature, they start and stop instantly, tracking the music signal with a precision previously unheard of in this class of loudspeaker. This is integrated with a 25mm soft-dome tweeter capable of reproducing frequencies well beyond audible range. The total entertaining and involving listen cannot fail to impress both the casual listener and experienced audiophile!


Wharfedale's new cone technology HCWPP (Hot Compacted Woven Polypropylene) exhibits incredible strength, impact resistance, and has better self-damping properties than KEVLAR and yet is lightweight and recyclable! Wharfedale's latest "HCWPP" cone technology mixes the superior strength to weight ratio of fiber braid materials such as KEVLAR with revolutionary self-damping properties never previously available in a single, recyclable material. The HCWPP process forms a material consisting of aligned polypropylene fibres in a matrix of thermoformed polypropylene. The new cone material consists of approximately 80% molecularly aligned fibbers in a matrix of 20% polypropylene resulting from melting and cooling the "skins" of the fibers.

 
 
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: johndoe on Jul 24, 2003 at 08:42 PM
the zaldek's speaker cones din are made of  Polypropylene..kaya lang blue.. ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jul 24, 2003 at 08:44 PM
From Wharfedale US Site:

'Superb sound quality from an entry-level unit. Features our new 'COMTEX' woven polypropylene self-damping cones for an ultra-fast, accurate respone - remarkable value for money."
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jul 24, 2003 at 08:54 PM
...... If Philander is refering to an SS amp rated 5Watts, it must be his Cassette/CD radio...

Am I?

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mojako on Jul 24, 2003 at 09:23 PM
jofkevski,
Im using a Sakura/Wharf combination.  Baka magulat ka sa tunog, ok na ok para sa perang nagasta ko.  I use 8.1 as my mains, and the clarity is amazing para sa el cheapo setup.  Kulang lang talaga sa bass, kaya ako may sub.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: boybi on Jul 24, 2003 at 09:47 PM
ano ba mas ok, kevlar or polypropylene?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 24, 2003 at 11:50 PM
kidding aside, kung panangga sa bala sa kevlar na ako.  it really depends on the design (guys correct me if i'm wrong).  what i know that b&w uses polypropylene, everyone knows how b&w performs but again missions, wharfs, etc. uses kevlar and they also perform well.  i think its the way one combines these items inorder to sound great, diba. and lastly, depended talaga dun sa pandinig nung tao. one combination does not do well for the other (right?).
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mojako on Jul 25, 2003 at 01:05 AM
But, the B&W 600 series use Kevlar drivers
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Jul 25, 2003 at 06:41 AM
sorry to burst your bubble but the b&w's use mostly kevlar for their midrange drivers  :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: positive_noise on Jul 25, 2003 at 08:22 AM
if b&w use kevlar in their midrange driver and in car audio most use polypropylene in their subs... Then polypropylene material would be best for boom/bass application and kevlar for voice/midrange.  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Jul 25, 2003 at 08:54 AM
pa-share na lang mga sirs nung comments nung mga nakapag-audition na regarding this new wharfedale series. mas oks ang itsura nung crystal series compared sa zaldek series.. parang futuristic approach yung  zaldek e.. hehehehehe meron ding kayang black  yung crystal series?  :D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jul 25, 2003 at 09:30 AM
pa-share na lang mga sirs nung comments nung mga nakapag-audition na regarding this new wharfedale series. mas oks ang itsura nung crystal series compared sa zaldek series.. parang futuristic approach yung  zaldek e.. hehehehehe meron ding kayang black  yung crystal series?  :D

Yup black ang available sa Sound Dimension.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: theman on Jul 25, 2003 at 09:40 AM

who is interested who group audition?

group buy? pm me your email address and i will get back to you if we have the numbers and the budget.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 25, 2003 at 09:41 AM
boss phil, sa sound simensions may nakita kang available na crystal 30 or 40?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jofkevski on Jul 25, 2003 at 09:43 AM
Hi Mojako!

Good that you have the sakura/wharf tandem. I wish some members in this thread should hear your setup t ostop bashing sakura amp as an amp. As I said, amp will always be an amp, and will always drive any speaker regardless of sensitivity. Only preference and cost consideration will have each person decide what really to get for himself.

There have been blind test made using low-cost components and yet audiophile sometimes mistakes them for a costlier one. I think it really depends how well research your purchases are. Those that have been lured by the marketing hype of brand lovers are the one in the losing end because they pay a lot of money for basically the same thing. Again - let them drink their own poison.

Back to wharfedale - the kevlar material have been proven to be very good in midrange that's why branded high end speakers continue to use the material for their mid range drivers. Polypropylene is not. However, polypropylene has extended frequency handling down to the upper bass music information.

I think the new series is basically the same technology of the diamond, only different in cone. I wonder why they change that. Could it be because diamond compete with their high end pacific series which uses kevlars? And they have to hype the new one so that nobody notice that these might be second rate than diamond - and pacific will continue to sport the kevlars in the high end?

Hi john5479, if you do visit and check the crystal - perhaps make an A/B comparison with diamond and see what crystasl is worth.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jul 25, 2003 at 09:50 AM
boss phil, sa sound simensions may nakita kang available na crystal 30 or 40?

No Crystal 30 and 40 yet, kararating pa lang kahapon nung Crystal 10, 20 and center, mainit pa from box. Baka parating pa lang din.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jul 25, 2003 at 09:55 AM
I used to own 3 Sakura amps. I have wharfedale diamonds. I still have one (sakura), the sound with wharfs sucks. I like the sound of sakura with Daichi family, it sounds better.

I not bashing sakura, they have models that sounds really good.

And I don't think a 1watt tube amplifier can drive the wharfs 8.3 or 8.4 with 86bd and 6ohms impedance (to deliver its true power, capacity and capability).

And I am open-minded.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Jul 25, 2003 at 09:55 AM
Yup black ang available sa Sound Dimension.

thanks philander..  ;) sana dumating na rin yung mga floorstanders nila.. mas mura to kesa yung pinag-iipunan kong m73i or b2..  ;D same din kaya sila ng quality nung diamond series but is easier to drive compared to the diamonds..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 25, 2003 at 10:03 AM
No Crystal 30 and 40 yet, kararating pa lang kahapon nung Crystal 10, 20 and center, mainit pa from box. Baka parating pa lang din.

thanks boss phil.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 25, 2003 at 10:08 AM
thanks philander..  ;) sana dumating na rin yung mga floorstanders nila.. mas mura to kesa yung pinag-iipunan kong m73i or b2..  ;D same din kaya sila ng quality nung diamond series but is easier to drive compared to the diamonds..

sebman, try checking out listening room in megamall,  nan dun ako the other day,  although they don't have the crystal  series yet but diamond are priced affordably the (8.4 @7k+, 8.1 and center @3k plus)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jul 25, 2003 at 10:16 AM
sebman, try checking out listening room in megamall,  nan dun ako the other day,  although they don't have the crystal  series yet but diamond are priced affordably the (8.4 @7k+, 8.1 and center @3k plus)


Are you sure, 8.1 and center for just 3K plus, or 8.1 and center for 3k plus each.

Even so, I think the 8.1 SRP is 4.65K, if that so, bumaba na rin ang price.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 25, 2003 at 10:27 AM
3k plus each, sorry.  bumaba narin yung price,  siguro this is due to the zaldek and crystal series.  medyo na gulat nga rin ako dun sa price
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Jul 25, 2003 at 10:28 AM
sebman, try checking out listening room in megamall,  nan dun ako the other day,  although they don't have the crystal  series yet but diamond are priced affordably the (8.4 @7k+, 8.1 and center @3k plus)


thanks kimpao.. tamang tama pag lunch break lagi kaming nandyan sa megamall.. mabisita nga yang listening room.. :D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jul 25, 2003 at 10:38 AM
3k plus each, sorry.  bumaba narin yung price,  siguro this is due to the zaldek and crystal series.  medyo na gulat nga rin ako dun sa price

No need to say sorry. Good thing is bumaba yung price...  :)

Peace.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jofkevski on Jul 25, 2003 at 10:38 AM
And who said a 1watt can drive the wharf - as I said in my post - tubes with 1W to 9W deserves high sensitivity speaker (of which wharfedale diamond is not) and you still insist your 1W to 5W.

I made my post in reply to the one who posted putting sakura in question without reference to a model. and what do you call that if that person will not clarify his post.

To be fair with you, will clarify my post as well - the amp I am refering to is SS and not tube. If you still insist 5W SS amp - then it must be your radio - but then even this 5W can drive diamond - why not? The loudness of 5W is half the loudness of 50W. For it takes 10times the power to have an estimate doubling of loudness.
 
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 25, 2003 at 10:39 AM
thanks kimpao.. tamang tama pag lunch break lagi kaming nandyan sa megamall.. mabisita nga yang listening room.. :D

bro 3k plus each pala yun but again baba narin nung price.  yung mga yammies nila na receiver, what i know is isa sila sa pinaka mababa.  anyway, double check mo narin yung mga prices nila.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jul 25, 2003 at 10:43 AM
Owww. Parang ngayon ko lang nalaman...
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: torque on Jul 25, 2003 at 10:44 AM
sebman, try checking out listening room in megamall,  nan dun ako the other day,  although they don't have the crystal  series yet but diamond are priced affordably the (8.4 @7k+, 8.1 and center @3k plus)


nasa Listening Room kami ni tsonggo_26 last night yung diamond 8.1 P4.65K pa rin ang price.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 25, 2003 at 10:47 AM
nasa Listening Room kami ni tsonggo_26 last night yung diamond 8.1 P4.65K pa rin ang price.

canvassed it as a whole set (8.1s and 8.3s.  mas mataas sila magbigay kung per piece. i don't, but that was just a quote that their sales rep gave me.   :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: torque on Jul 25, 2003 at 11:48 AM
canvassed it as a whole set (8.1s and 8.3s.  mas mataas sila magbigay kung per piece. i don't, but that was just a quote that their sales rep gave me.   :)

ah ok whole set na pala ;D
pero sana nga ibaba pa nila yung price ng per piece
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 25, 2003 at 11:52 AM
ah ok whole set na pala ;D
pero sana nga ibaba pa nila yung price ng per piece

bro, tawaran mo.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mojako on Jul 26, 2003 at 01:54 AM
Saw the Wharf Crystal 10 kanina sa Spectra-park sq1.  Same price ng 8.1 bigay sakin eh.  Mas mura ba sa iba?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jofkevski on Jul 26, 2003 at 07:08 AM
alam daw nya? he he he
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jul 26, 2003 at 03:27 PM
alam daw nya? he he he

Yup, like i said. I am an ECE graduate.

O sige, palitan mo yung mga speakers ng radio/cassete player ng Diamond 8.4 speakers (sabi mo madidrive eh) baka maapreciate mo yung sound, be sure na lalabas yung ganda ng sound with diamonds (and be sure na hindi masusunog yung amplifier, at walang clipping/distortions). Share mo na rin experiences mo, para masaya.

Gamit ka ng el-cheapo interconnects and speaker wires (gauge 24 o kahit 40).

Enjoy.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Jul 27, 2003 at 05:41 PM
Anyone heard the crystals yet?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: shine on Jul 27, 2003 at 10:19 PM
mukhang mapapalitan ko ang diamond 8.4 ko nang crystal40 pag nagkataon. mas maganda ang porma nang crystal i hope match din sila sa mga diamonds or even better.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile on Jul 28, 2003 at 12:04 PM
Are you sure, 8.1 and center for just 3K plus, or 8.1 and center for 3k plus each.

Even so, I think the 8.1 SRP is 4.65K, if that so, bumaba na rin ang price.

Hi Philander,
Ang baba na pala ngayon ng diamond center, 3k.  Hope you're not regretting your purchase of my 8C.  Saw an FS for an 8C also 3 mos old, going for 3k.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jofkevski on Jul 28, 2003 at 12:15 PM
Hi av_phile!

where do you find 3k diamond center? how about the lowerst on diamond 8.1 - any sighting?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile on Jul 28, 2003 at 12:38 PM
Hi av_phile!

where do you find 3k diamond center? how about the lowerst on diamond 8.1 - any sighting?

Hi jofkevski,

i was reacting to an earlier post i think by kimpao saying that the 8.1 and center are just 3k each na lang.  Teka, 3k plus pala, sorry.

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jul 28, 2003 at 12:59 PM
Hi Philander,
Ang baba na pala ngayon ng diamond center, 3k.  Hope you're not regretting your purchase of my 8C.  Saw an FS for an 8C also 3 mos old, going for 3k.

No. No problem. Sa package price lang naman yung mas mababa ang price, pag individual ganun pa rin.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Jul 28, 2003 at 02:50 PM
Best place (price) to get Wharfdale speakers? So far cheapest quotation i got is from Sights and Sound.

LR
8.1 - 4650
WH-2 - 3780
DQ-12 - 6500

SS
8.1 - 4600
WH-2 - 3800
DQ-12 - 5800
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: nelrey on Jul 28, 2003 at 04:09 PM
for those who are looking for the new wharfedale crystal series speakers they are now available.  cheack the prices at http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=7;action=display;threadid=14780
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mojako on Jul 28, 2003 at 10:44 PM
Presars,
mas mura sa ambassador shang yung diamonds.  nasa 4500-4550 yung 8.1
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: shine on Jul 29, 2003 at 12:05 AM
sa ambassador nga yata ang pinakamura kung wharf din lang ang paguusapan, pati mga yamaha pala, one of the cheapest din sila. RXV-430 ngayon is P12k+ and their RXV630 i think is less than P19k.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Jul 29, 2003 at 10:19 AM
Salamat mga bossing! San ba Ambassador sa makati?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: positive_noise on Jul 31, 2003 at 02:03 PM
Salamat mga bossing! San ba Ambassador sa makati?

Meron sa Shangri-la Plaza...

positive_noise.  ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Jul 31, 2003 at 03:17 PM
Salamat mga bossing! San ba Ambassador sa makati?

dun sa "old" glorietta, yung nakaharap sa may car-park building
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jul 31, 2003 at 03:20 PM
Salamat mga bossing! San ba Ambassador sa makati?

Gold Crest. Back of G1 & G2.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: AVDude on Jul 31, 2003 at 03:42 PM
went to a friend's house, who is also a pinoydvd'er and fellow audio/video enthusiast...well my 1st objective was to see his new baby girl...tapos 2nd mission heheh is to test his HK receiver w/ my Wharfedale 8.1

His current setup is made up of B&W 601's ,etc...so we tried a couple of DVD's and CD's w/ his setup then we switched  to the Wharfs...one thing i can say...not dissapointing at all...kala ko syempre malayo yun difference kasi pricewise almost 4x ata yun price nun..pero glad to say na..sonic wise maganda nga sya...gulat nga din kami pareho sa tunog eh  ;D

anyways...next mission ko is to compare them w/ the dyns..kasi been hearing a lot of good stuff about it..just hope malayo talaga quality nito para ma justify yun pagbili ko nto for my future audio only setup
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Jul 31, 2003 at 03:52 PM
went to a friend's house, who is also a pinoydvd'er and fellow audio/video enthusiast...well my 1st objective was to see his new baby girl...tapos 2nd mission heheh is to test his HK receiver w/ my Wharfedale 8.1

His current setup is made up of B&W 601's ,etc...so we tried a couple of DVD's and CD's w/ his setup then we switched  to the Wharfs...one thing i can say...not dissapointing at all...kala ko syempre malayo yun difference kasi pricewise almost 4x ata yun price nun..pero glad to say na..sonic wise maganda nga sya...gulat nga din kami pareho sa tunog eh  ;D

anyways...next mission ko is to compare them w/ the dyns..kasi been hearing a lot of good stuff about it..just hope malayo talaga quality nito para ma justify yun pagbili ko nto for my future audio only setup

thanks for the FR sir AVdude.. planning also to get the 8.1 since i heard that when i audition my HK 2550.. and ganda ng tunog..  :) never heard it connected to a m73i or a b2.. mas maganda kaya ang tunog nun or same din?  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Jul 31, 2003 at 07:45 PM
thanks for the FR sir AVdude.. planning also to get the 8.1 since i heard that when i audition my HK 2550.. and ganda ng tunog..  :) never heard it connected to a m73i or a b2.. mas maganda kaya ang tunog nun or same din?  ;D

seb advice ko magaudition ka muna pwede sa spectra car park makati kay jim mabait naman yon..... para malaman mo talaga ang pagkakaiba
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Aug 01, 2003 at 08:50 AM
seb advice ko magaudition ka muna pwede sa spectra car park makati kay jim mabait naman yon..... para malaman mo talaga ang pagkakaiba

j_albert22.. thanks for the advice.. would audition pag me pera na ako.. para pag nagustuhan ko.. balot na agad..  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Aug 01, 2003 at 10:03 AM
Thanks to the people who provided the directions.  8)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: AVDude on Aug 01, 2003 at 10:09 AM
j_albert22.. thanks for the advice.. would audition pag me pera na ako.. para pag nagustuhan ko.. balot na agad..  ;D

that's the right route..ultimately..audition and then  select the speakers which sounds best to you.

these forums helps in a way to provide guidance & it is not intended to tell you what to buy

my 2 cents worth

Peace  8)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 03, 2003 at 01:37 AM
I'm just a super newbie and needs some good advice

I'm planning to buy wharf can you recommend any?, my room is small lang so kahit yung lumang version ok lang.

How much would it cost me to setup whaferdale sepeaker set?

I wanna use yamaha 630 receiver, will that be a good match with whaferdales, what model of whaferdale is good with this avr?

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: haribon on Aug 03, 2003 at 02:01 AM
I'm just a super newbie and needs some good advice

I'm planning to buy wharf can you recommend any?, my room is small lang so kahit yung lumang version ok lang.

How much would it cost me to setup whaferdale sepeaker set?

I wanna use yamaha 630 receiver, will that be a good match with whaferdales, what model of whaferdale is good with this avr?


you can try the diamond series 8.3 or 8.2 for your fronts & wh-2 for your center/surround. it will cost you under 12k for the 5 speakers
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 03, 2003 at 02:12 AM
you can try the diamond series 8.3 or 8.2 for your fronts & wh-2 for your center/surround. it will cost you under 12k for the 5 speakers

all 5 speakers for just 12T, ok na siguro yan, pero wala pa yan sub diba?

how much ba sub ng whaferdale?

how much naman for their crystal series?

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: johndoe on Aug 03, 2003 at 09:57 AM
pinakamura nakita ko sub ng wharfedale is 6+k...di ko lang nkita ung model..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 03, 2003 at 02:39 PM
AVdude,

Yes sir I agree with HK your Wharfedale diamond will surely sing good music  :) :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Aug 03, 2003 at 02:43 PM
all 5 speakers for just 12T, ok na siguro yan, pero wala pa yan sub diba?

how much ba sub ng whaferdale?

how much naman for their crystal series?



bro, try contacting nelrey. pm ko sa iyo details. he's selling crystal and 8 series of wharfs
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: D0Hbert on Aug 03, 2003 at 03:13 PM
i'm very much interested in the wharf 8 series, can i ask for nelry's email addy so i can send my inquiries to him. thanks.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: shine on Aug 03, 2003 at 03:18 PM
according to some reviews, mas maganda pa rin daw ang diamonds kaysa sa crystal series. visited spectra last weekend, comparing the two mas gusto pa rin daw nila ang tunog nang diamonds.

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Aug 03, 2003 at 03:40 PM
san reviews yun? pls post the link naman thanks
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Aug 04, 2003 at 01:18 AM
Salamat mga bossing! San ba Ambassador sa makati?

sent u pm
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Aug 04, 2003 at 01:25 AM
i'm very much interested in the wharf 8 series, can i ask for nelry's email addy so i can send my inquiries to him. thanks.

sent u pm
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 04, 2003 at 05:51 AM
can anyone tell if this setup is ok

avr - yamaha 630
center - diamond center
front - 8.3
rear - 8.1

question: kaya ba i drive ng 630 yun 8.3?
                how much na set ng diamond 8 speakers?,
                      wer to buy?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Aug 04, 2003 at 07:22 AM
kayang kaya!!! ok na yan.. thought mag hk ka?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: AVDude on Aug 04, 2003 at 07:54 AM
can anyone tell if this setup is ok

avr - yamaha 630
center - diamond center
front - 8.3
rear - 8.1

question: kaya ba i drive ng 630 yun 8.3?
                how much na set ng diamond 8 speakers?,
                      wer to buy?

kulang mo na lang sub  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 04, 2003 at 07:56 AM
kayang kaya!!! ok na yan.. thought mag hk ka?

ok san kaso patay nako sa ermats ko nyan  :P
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 04, 2003 at 07:56 AM
kulang mo na lang sub  ;D

ano ba maganda sub, ok ba yung whaferdale na sub
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Aug 04, 2003 at 08:15 AM
hindi ata maganda reviews ng mga wharf subs. pagawa ka kay mel at matutuwa ka
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: haribon on Aug 04, 2003 at 10:23 AM
corek si mdsaint3! kontakin mo sina mel at anthony cguradong di ka magsisisi.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Aug 04, 2003 at 10:35 AM
Was able to audition the Crystal 10 last Saturday at Spectra. It was driven by Denon 1803 with flat settings and no subwoofer.

For the record I am using Diamond 8.1.

Yes, there is no big difference in the sound with Diamonds 8.1.

Based from the reviews, dapat mas ma-bass "daw" ang Crystal compared sa Diamonds but I did not noticed the bass reproduction to be more powerful than diamonds.

Clarity is the same. To be honest I find the highs of the crystal more detailed than diamonds, my diamonds tweeter is somewhat weak (baka kaya may problem yung diamonds ko??).

Mas maganda yung "imaging" ng diamonds, maganda pa rin talaga yung mids nya, pero okay din sa crystal. I did not asked kung broken-in na yung crystal.

Crystal is cheaper than diamonds, walang gaanong differences so, you might want to try the crystal series, almost the same sound at a cheaper price.

Pero ako (not because I'm using diamonds), diamonds pa rin pipiliin ko.

Cheers.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jofkevski on Aug 04, 2003 at 10:40 AM
can anyone tell if this setup is ok

avr - yamaha 630
center - diamond center
front - 8.3
rear - 8.1

question: kaya ba i drive ng 630 yun 8.3?
                how much na set ng diamond 8 speakers?,
                      wer to buy?

I am using 630 with 4 x 8.1, no center, and this combination to me is very good. identical timber in all channels, center is phantomed. read my earlier post on 8.3 against 8.1 and decide for yourself.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Aug 04, 2003 at 11:02 AM
Thanks to the people who provided the directions.  8)

bro, sent u pm.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Aug 04, 2003 at 11:36 AM
pre, sent u pm din.

bro, sent u pm.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Aug 04, 2003 at 12:14 PM
Thanks to the people who provided the directions.  8)

pre, its beside webian internet cafe ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Aug 04, 2003 at 01:41 PM
pre, sent u pm din.

presars

pre, i think mdsaint3 is still selling his diamond 8.1's (3 months old, ata if right).  

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: AVDude on Aug 04, 2003 at 04:08 PM
ano ba maganda sub, ok ba yung whaferdale na sub

Velodyne, JBL are very good brands...

I heard na meron bagong entry level yun velo..why dont you check that out baka matipuhan mo
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Aug 04, 2003 at 04:14 PM
mdsaint3,

Pa pm ng price. :)

presars

pre, i think mdsaint3 is still selling his diamond 8.1's (3 months old, ata if right).  


Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ADM202E on Aug 04, 2003 at 04:22 PM
Can anyone pls quote an average price of diamond series vs crystal series? Current price in the market will be good.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Aug 04, 2003 at 05:28 PM
Can anyone pls quote an average price of diamond series vs crystal series? Current price in the market will be good.

Check nerley's post at assorted buy and sell section.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: yep119 on Aug 05, 2003 at 09:52 AM
Anyone who can tell me where I can audition the Wharfs with an HK2550?  ???
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 05, 2003 at 09:57 AM
spectra lang

ok ba yung hk2550 or mas ok yung yamaha 630
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 05, 2003 at 10:04 AM
ok san gut? :)

ano ba mas ok na receiver 2550 or 630 for whaferdale, di ko kasi sila macompare eh?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Aug 05, 2003 at 10:18 AM
Anyone who can tell me where I can audition the Wharfs with an HK2550?  ???

Spectra - ParkSquare 1
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Aug 05, 2003 at 10:25 AM
ano ba mas ok na receiver 2550 or 630 for whaferdale, di ko kasi sila macompare eh?

Technically, mas lamang yung Yamaha 630 in most aspect: power, pre-outs, 6.1 channel, DD-EX, DTS-ES compatible(matrix), component video switching, 96khz/24bit DAC.

Yung Harman 2550 - High current, 5.1 channel, 192khz/24-bit DAC, no 5.1 analog input, no pre-outs.

Sound quality.. subjective. I like the sound of Harman but between the two, i'll choose the Yamaha 630.

My cent.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Aug 05, 2003 at 05:09 PM
Technically, mas lamang yung Yamaha 630 in most aspect: power, pre-outs, 6.1 channel, DD-EX, DTS-ES compatible(matrix), component video switching, 96khz/24bit DAC.

Yung Harman 2550 - High current, 5.1 channel, 192khz/24-bit DAC, no 5.1 analog input, no pre-outs.

Sound quality.. subjective. I like the sound of Harman but between the two, i'll choose the Yamaha 630.

boss phil, question.  what i do understand is that 6.1 matrix of rxv630 is wherein it uses the other channel's frequency in order to produce a sixth channel? (am i getting it right?) now 6.1 discrete has a separate 6th channel.  in your and others opinion, which is better?



My cent.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Aug 05, 2003 at 05:24 PM
boss phil, question.  what i do understand is that 6.1 matrix of rxv630 is wherein it uses the other channel's frequency in order to produce a sixth channel? (am i getting it right?) now 6.1 discrete has a separate 6th channel.  in your and others opinion, which is better?


Yes, in Matrix mode, it uses surround channels (left and right surrounds) to matrix/phanthom the rear center.

6.1 discrete is better of course, because the sound is independent and separately encoded.

 
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 06, 2003 at 08:07 AM
saan store ako makakakuha ng discount if I'll buy a whaferdale package + avr?

yamaha 630
whaferdale 8.1, center, 8.3
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: shine on Aug 06, 2003 at 08:13 AM
try mo pumunta sa ambassador shang, may mga package sila sa yamaha and wharf speaker, sigurado makakakuha ka pa nang discount kung complete package na ang kukunin mo.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Aug 06, 2003 at 09:37 AM
agree ambasador shang is the cheapest place to get yamaha wharf combos
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jerix on Aug 06, 2003 at 10:05 AM
hi guys,

if anybody here has the price list of the wharf zaldek series pa post naman po..... thnks-- ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: hamstie on Aug 06, 2003 at 10:14 AM
saan store ako makakakuha ng discount if I'll buy a whaferdale package + avr?

yamaha 630
whaferdale 8.1, center, 8.3

i was in ambassador greenhills last week and i saw na meron silang package na yamaha avr and wharfs 8.1 and center that goes at 29 k ;D not sure kung pati yung surrounds eh wharfs din. complete with sub na nga pala yung nakita ko ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: hamstie on Aug 06, 2003 at 10:18 AM
ooppss.. 2 packages pala yun you can choose kung yammy 420 or 520 ::)  you're lookng for 630 pala sori antok pa yata ako ::) ::)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: AVDude on Aug 06, 2003 at 10:55 AM
ok ba yung hk2550 or mas ok yung yamaha 630

IMO both are good...depende na lang sa aesthetic and feature preference mo..pero would suggest that you audition them side by side...
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Aug 06, 2003 at 10:58 AM
they also have packages for higher model amps like 630 just go there.. to goldcrest or shangrila
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 06, 2003 at 11:00 AM
they also have packages for higher model amps like 630 just go there.. to goldcrest or shangrila

where is goldcrest?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Aug 06, 2003 at 11:21 AM
where is goldcrest?

Near Glorietta, between the back of G2 and G1.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: haribon on Aug 08, 2003 at 02:31 AM
you can go to spectra in parksquare...look for jim.

Anyone who can tell me where I can audition the Wharfs with an HK2550?  ???
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 10, 2003 at 04:39 AM
I went to ambassador greenhills yesterday and they have a package for whaferdale + avr

yamaha 530 + diamond = 30k
yamaha 630 + diamond = 33k

Ano kaya mas maganda sa dalawa?
Is there a lot of difference between 530 and 630?
Can I still get a better price than this?, wer?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: haribon on Aug 10, 2003 at 08:43 PM
given the choice and w/ a 3k difference go for yamaha630 + diamond.

I went to ambassador greenhills yesterday and they have a package for whaferdale + avr

yamaha 530 + diamond = 30k
yamaha 630 + diamond = 33k

Ano kaya mas maganda sa dalawa?
Is there a lot of difference between 530 and 630?
Can I still get a better price than this?, wer?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jofkevski on Aug 10, 2003 at 09:46 PM
Please identify items under wharfedale package so we can determine if that is a good deal. 630 in listening room I was told is just 17k, this means your wharfedale is priced at 16k. 8.3 is 6.9k, 8.1 is 4.6k, 8C is 3.7k or 15.2k total - so what do you think?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Aug 11, 2003 at 03:00 AM
I went to ambassador greenhills yesterday and they have a package for whaferdale + avr

yamaha 530 + diamond = 30k
yamaha 630 + diamond = 33k

Ano kaya mas maganda sa dalawa?
Is there a lot of difference between 530 and 630?
Can I still get a better price than this?, wer?



try considering crystals.  halos walang pinagka-iba with diamonds but price is much lower (ask nelrey about crystals, i got mine from him last saturday, am currently breaking it in.  CR-40 7.8 k, center 3.6 K, CR-10 3.9 K) yung CR-10 i still have to get from him.  CR-40 is equivalent to 8.4 and CR-30 is 8.3.  di ko natanong kay nelrey kung magkano yung CR-30
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 11, 2003 at 04:43 AM
Please identify items under wharfedale package so we can determine if that is a good deal. 630 in listening room I was told is just 17k, this means your wharfedale is priced at 16k. 8.3 is 6.9k, 8.1 is 4.6k, 8C is 3.7k or 15.2k total - so what do you think?

medyo mahal yata, maynapagtanungan kasi ako 14500 for the whaferdale.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Aug 11, 2003 at 08:36 AM
try considering crystals.  halos walang pinagka-iba with diamonds but price is much lower (ask nelrey about crystals, i got mine from him last saturday, am currently breaking it in.  CR-40 7.8 k, center 3.6 K, CR-10 3.9 K) yung CR-10 i still have to get from him.  CR-40 is equivalent to 8.4 and CR-30 is 8.3.  di ko natanong kay nelrey kung magkano yung CR-30

sir kimpao.. comparable na rin ba sya sa diamonds? post your reviews.. thanks
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: shine on Aug 11, 2003 at 07:19 PM
comparing diamonds and crystals, halos wala nga pinag iba sa tunog pag parehong bago, di ko masabi pag natapos na sila sa break-in period nila kung ok pa rin ang crystal, sa diamond kasi ok naman basta maayos pagka break-in mo.

Sa looks, mas mataas ang crystal floorstatnders at mas improved na yung grilles niya, mas matigas na di gaya nang diamond, pati sa price panalo siya for less than a thousand lang naman.

Pero pag tinanggal na ang takip...mas guapo namang di hamak ang kevlar na tingnan.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Aug 11, 2003 at 08:45 PM
sir kimpao.. comparable na rin ba sya sa diamonds? post your reviews.. thanks

only thing i noticed (between CR-40 and diamond 8.4, since i previously have 8.4's (ang napansin ko kasi is majority of wharf owners here are using 8.3 kaya ko rin siguro nasabing medyo mas malakas yung bass sa 8.4). mas mild yung bass niya. i tested it using the following cds; enya, acoustic alchemy, dave grusin. for dvds; starwars (1&2) LOTR (1&2).  previously kasi parang  bitin sa akin yung mids and highs parang nasasapawan ng bass yung ibang frequencies (or is it just me?).  still need to get the CR-10's inorder for me to compare it with the 8.1 . Kailangan i-break-in ko pa yung crystals siguro after a month.  nga pala naka bi-wire ako for the fronts and center.  i'm using CAT 5 double braided 15 pair, so basically,these are 30 CAT 5 wires twisted and braided together (homemade lang ito, masakit lang sa kamay).

sa looks, tama si boss 45mm,  mas mataas yung crystals pero well proportioned siya sa width (mas ok tingnan kung gagamitin mo yung spikes!) sa grills, whoahey!!!! parang "spartan" may maaasahan kang tibay.

yup, pag-tinanggal na ang takip...no doubt guwapo talaga ang kevlars. overall, you can get diamonds for less. aheheheeh
  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 12, 2003 at 08:42 AM
Please identify items under wharfedale package so we can determine if that is a good deal. 630 in listening room I was told is just 17k, this means your wharfedale is priced at 16k. 8.3 is 6.9k, 8.1 is 4.6k, 8C is 3.7k or 15.2k total - so what do you think?

sir san ba listening room yan?, nagpunta kasi ako dun sa mega nd robinson's and sabi nung mga nandun 18,800 daw talaga with discount na daw yun eh  :P.
Sino ba dapat kausapin dun?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Aug 12, 2003 at 08:43 AM
only thing i noticed (between CR-40 and diamond 8.4, since i previously have 8.4's (ang napansin ko kasi is majority of wharf owners here are using 8.3 kaya ko rin siguro nasabing medyo mas malakas yung bass sa 8.4). mas mild yung bass niya. i tested it using the following cds; enya, acoustic alchemy, dave grusin. for dvds; starwars (1&2) LOTR (1&2).  previously kasi parang  bitin sa akin yung mids and highs parang nasasapawan ng bass yung ibang frequencies (or is it just me?).  still need to get the CR-10's inorder for me to compare it with the 8.1 . Kailangan i-break-in ko pa yung crystals siguro after a month.  nga pala naka bi-wire ako for the fronts and center.  i'm using CAT 5 double braided 15 pair, so basically,these are 30 CAT 5 wires twisted and braided together (homemade lang ito, masakit lang sa kamay).

sa looks, tama si boss 45mm,  mas mataas yung crystals pero well proportioned siya sa width (mas ok tingnan kung gagamitin mo yung spikes!) sa grills, whoahey!!!! parang "spartan" may maaasahan kang tibay.

yup, pag-tinanggal na ang takip...no doubt guwapo talaga ang kevlars. overall, you can get diamonds for less. aheheheeh
  ;D

thanks for the review sirs.. OT lang sir.. could you teach me or show me a site where i can read how to create speaker cables from a cat 5 networking cables.. i got some spare cat 5e which we used from previous networking jobs..  ;D thanks
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: losi_phile on Aug 12, 2003 at 10:01 AM
Sebman,

The site is :

http://www.venhaus1.com/diycatfivecables.html

Just a word of advice in braiding these cat5s cable,  have enough surgical gloves (mas maganda yung fit na fit sa hand mo) in store para di manakit ang mga daliri mo at iwas paltos din.

I'm using cat5 (27 braided pairs) sa 8.3 ko.  Sa diamond center (naka-biwire) ko naman 9 braided pairs for the HF and 18 braided pairs for the LF.

Enjoy.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 12, 2003 at 10:49 AM
Sebman,

The site is :

http://www.venhaus1.com/diycatfivecables.html

Just a word of advice in braiding these cat5s cable,  have enough surgical gloves (mas maganda yung fit na fit sa hand mo) in store para di manakit ang mga daliri mo at iwas paltos din.

I'm using cat5 (27 braided pairs) sa 8.3 ko.  Sa diamond center (naka-biwire) ko naman 9 braided pairs for the HF and 18 braided pairs for the LF.

Enjoy.

 mahirap ba magbiwire?
 malaki ba talaga difference kung naka biwire ka?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Aug 12, 2003 at 10:50 AM
Sebman,

The site is :

http://www.venhaus1.com/diycatfivecables.html

Just a word of advice in braiding these cat5s cable,  have enough surgical gloves (mas maganda yung fit na fit sa hand mo) in store para di manakit ang mga daliri mo at iwas paltos din.

I'm using cat5 (27 braided pairs) sa 8.3 ko.  Sa diamond center (naka-biwire) ko naman 9 braided pairs for the HF and 18 braided pairs for the LF.

Enjoy.

thanks losi_phile.. might try these on weekends..  ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jofkevski on Aug 12, 2003 at 10:53 AM
sir san ba listening room yan?, nagpunta kasi ako dun sa mega nd robinson's and sabi nung mga nandun 18,800 daw talaga with discount na daw yun eh  :P.
Sino ba dapat kausapin dun?

Megamall 3rd floor, almost on the side of the supermarket (1st floor). Look for the bokal guy there - mukhang yon ang owner, not the sales people. get the last discounted price.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 12, 2003 at 10:58 AM
Megamall 3rd floor, almost on the side of the supermarket (1st floor). Look for the bokal guy there - mukhang yon ang owner, not the sales people. get the last discounted price.

sya ba nagbigay sa'yo ng discount?
I want to get yamaha 630 + whaferdale, do you think I can get further discount?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Aug 12, 2003 at 11:04 AM
sya ba nagbigay sa'yo ng discount?
I want to get yamaha 630 + whaferdale, do you think I can get further discount?

subukan mo gutierrez.. saka kung me citibank card ka.. they are offering 0% interest on almost all of the receivers,dvd players and speakers..  ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ADM202E on Aug 12, 2003 at 11:05 AM
sya ba nagbigay sa'yo ng discount?
I want to get yamaha 630 + whaferdale, do you think I can get further discount?

I say go get the 63o package. Its better than 430/530.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 12, 2003 at 11:14 AM
meron ba sila package  for 630 + whaferdale? ang alam ko kasi 630 + yamaha speakers lang eh.   Sa ambassador meron 630 + whaferdale diamond series for 33k, pro di yata maganda service dun eh.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Aug 12, 2003 at 11:20 AM
pwede i package kahit ano sa ambasador.. just tell them..iba lang nasa poster pero pwede yan.. si alex pa bait nun
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 12, 2003 at 11:23 AM
pwede i package kahit ano sa ambasador.. just tell them..iba lang nasa poster pero pwede yan.. si alex pa bait nun
san ambassador yan pre? yung package nila pwede pa kaya tawaran yun?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Aug 12, 2003 at 11:24 AM
Bro,

Tama si mdsaint3... puwede i package kahit ano... mabilis lang kausap yun may-ari ng ambassador (makati).  Got my wharfedale+dq-12 package at a good price.  Pinatalo ko sa kanya yung price na bigay ng Listening Room at 0% int for 6 mos.

Besides, kung wharfs and yamaha lang din... cheapest ang ambassador!

meron ba sila package  for 630 + whaferdale? ang alam ko kasi 630 + yamaha speakers lang eh.   Sa ambassador meron 630 + whaferdale diamond series for 33k, pro di yata maganda service dun eh.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ADM202E on Aug 12, 2003 at 11:24 AM
meron ba sila package  for 630 + whaferdale? ang alam ko kasi 630 + yamaha speakers lang eh.   Sa ambassador meron 630 + whaferdale diamond series for 33k, pro di yata maganda service dun eh.

Did you tried spectra? I got my discounted setup from Jim/Nino. They will assist you and give you discounts, even up to the cables and gold connectors. I suggest you give them a try.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Aug 12, 2003 at 11:25 AM
meron ba sila package  for 630 + whaferdale? ang alam ko kasi 630 + yamaha speakers lang eh.   Sa ambassador meron 630 + whaferdale diamond series for 33k, pro di yata maganda service dun eh.

me wharfedale din sila.. maganda sir kausapin mo yung me-ari para makakuha ka ng package for it.. yung kalbong guy na tisoy yun..  ;D regarding the service, ang sinasabi lang naman nung mga fellow members natin is nde maganda mag-audition don sa ambassador kasi feeling mo e nde ka welcome.. pero kung 200 %decided ka na to get that combo e nde mo na kailangan ng service.. just go to that store, pay and take home the goods..  :D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 12, 2003 at 11:28 AM
me wharfedale din sila.. maganda sir kausapin mo yung me-ari para makakuha ka ng package for it.. yung kalbong guy na tisoy yun..  ;D regarding the service, ang sinasabi lang naman nung mga fellow members natin is nde maganda mag-audition don sa ambassador kasi feeling mo e nde ka welcome.. pero kung 200 %decided ka na to get that combo e nde mo na kailangan ng service.. just go to that store, pay and take home the goods..  :D

nakita ko nga yung kalbo dun  ;D

I'll try sa spectra, lr and ambassador and get the lowest price.  thanks for all the advice  :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ADM202E on Aug 12, 2003 at 11:34 AM
nakita ko nga yung kalbo dun  ;D

I'll try sa spectra, lr and ambassador and get the lowest price.  thanks for all the advice  :)

For spectra, look for Jim/Nino. I got my yamaha+wharfedale+dq12+cable+gold connectors at very reasonable price of P26k.  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 12, 2003 at 11:35 AM
For spectra, look for Jim/Nino. I got my yamaha+wharfedale+dq12+cable+gold connectors at very reasonable price of P26k.  

630 ba yan pre? yung whferdale mo diamond series ba or wh2 yung center?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ADM202E on Aug 12, 2003 at 11:51 AM
630 ba yan pre? yung whferdale mo diamond series ba or wh2 yung center?

Its 430+wh2. You may get a better discount if you personally talked to them. They are also giving away a discount on whatever preference you require in a mix and match Yamaha+wharfedale setup. I think inuubos na lang nila ito kaya sale na.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 12, 2003 at 12:13 PM
Its 430+wh2. You may get a better discount if you personally talked to them. They are also giving away a discount on whatever preference you require in a mix and match Yamaha+wharfedale setup. I think inuubos na lang nila ito kaya sale na.

mura yan pre :o, sa ambassador it's 39k.  I'll call them later and hopefully get a good discount for a 630 + diamond series  :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Aug 12, 2003 at 01:45 PM
Dude,

Double check if WH-2 talaga yun o Diamond Center and 8.1 yung package.

mura yan pre :o, sa ambassador it's 39k.  I'll call them later and hopefully get a good discount for a 630 + diamond series  :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ADM202E on Aug 12, 2003 at 01:50 PM
Dude,

Double check if WH-2 talaga yun o Diamond Center and 8.1 yung package.

Most probably Diamonds yun, alangan sa WH-2 ang 39k. I assume 8.3 na ang fronts ng 39k (at 630).

Gutierrez dude, validate the specs and price.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Aug 12, 2003 at 04:24 PM
oo nga wh2 center and rear is 3500, 630 around 18.k so impossible umabot ng 39 yan
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Aug 12, 2003 at 06:31 PM
thanks for the review sirs.. OT lang sir.. could you teach me or show me a site where i can read how to create speaker cables from a cat 5 networking cables.. i got some spare cat 5e which we used from previous networking jobs..  ;D thanks

here are urls for your reference.  try the last url, dito ko nakuha yung idea for the 15 pair braid.  kung may time ako, baka gawin ko yung 21 pair braid (save ko itong project na ito kung may long vacation, ahehehehe). sugical gloves will not do the trick,  better yet gumamit ka ng masking tape sa daliri.


http://www.venhaus1.com/diycatfivecables.html
http://www.tnt-audio.com/clinica/cat5questions_e.html
http://www.mejiatryti.com/SpeakerCable/
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 13, 2003 at 04:36 AM
oo nga wh2 center and rear is 3500, 630 around 18.k so impossible umabot ng 39 yan

pare wrong info 33k pala sa ambassador mali yun type ko, sorry  :-[

 33k for 630 + 8.3, 8.1 , diamond center
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Aug 13, 2003 at 10:24 AM
Dude,

Check my previous post... about my deal with ambassador.  Madali lang kausap yung may-ari (makati branch), you could still get a good deal.

BTW, AFAIK yung yammy combo nila includes the DQ-12 sa Wharfs. KUMPLETO KA NA!!

pare wrong info 33k pala sa ambassador mali yun type ko, sorry  :-[

 33k for 630 + 8.3, 8.1 , diamond center
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 13, 2003 at 10:32 AM
Dude,

Check my previous post... about my deal with ambassador.  Madali lang kausap yung may-ari (makati branch), you could still get a good deal.

BTW, AFAIK yung yammy combo nila includes the DQ-12 sa Wharfs. KUMPLETO KA NA!!

 I'll check ambassador and spectra makati and get the lowest deal  :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 14, 2003 at 02:43 PM
Presars,

Congrats buo na pala setup mo according ko Sebman.. galing pre..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Aug 14, 2003 at 04:38 PM
Presars,

Congrats buo na pala setup mo according ko Sebman.. galing pre..

Pare kumusta na setup mo? Di ko masyado nagagamit ang akin, too busy sa construction nang bahay, para di na mapulaan ang setup ko ehehehehe
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: AVDude on Aug 14, 2003 at 05:28 PM
Pare kumusta na setup mo? Di ko masyado nagagamit ang akin, too busy sa construction nang bahay, para di na mapulaan ang setup ko ehehehehe

cguro pinaghahandaan mo ng mabuti yun AV room ano?  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Aug 15, 2003 at 09:59 AM
cguro pinaghahandaan mo ng mabuti yun AV room ano?  ;D

Not really, i decided to put my setup sa sala, pagnakaipon nang malaki maybe i can afford to construct a dedicated AV room pero for the meant time sa sala na muna lahat setup..problema lang eh speaker placement nang surrounds kasi malayo ang wall sa likod, thats why im in still search for a ceiling bracket na pwede sa Wharfs 8.1 para sa surround speakers ehehehe
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Aug 15, 2003 at 10:04 AM
Thanks bro!  ;D

Presars,

Congrats buo na pala setup mo according ko Sebman.. galing pre..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: AVDude on Aug 15, 2003 at 10:56 AM
Not really, i decided to put my setup sa sala, pagnakaipon nang malaki maybe i can afford to construct a dedicated AV room pero for the meant time sa sala na muna lahat setup..problema lang eh speaker placement nang surrounds kasi malayo ang wall sa likod, thats why im in still search for a ceiling bracket na pwede sa Wharfs 8.1 para sa surround speakers ehehehe

cool.do post a new pic pag tapos na...  ;D
ako nga din..am itching to go back para ayusin yun A/V room ko..heheh para makapost din ng pic..kahit very simple lang yun
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Aug 15, 2003 at 01:47 PM
cool.do post a new pic pag tapos na...  ;D
ako nga din..am itching to go back para ayusin yun A/V room ko..heheh para makapost din ng pic..kahit very simple lang yun

Under construction pa ang bahay ehehehe..siguro mga two months pa ehehehehe
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Onion Skin on Aug 18, 2003 at 09:11 AM
Got my Wharfe 8c at Spectra for 3K only (w/o box). Mura nga dun.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ADM202E on Aug 18, 2003 at 09:14 AM
Got my Wharfe 8c at Spectra for 3K only (w/o box). Mura nga dun.

May libre pang Matrix 1 original R3............cool......
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Onion Skin on Aug 18, 2003 at 09:16 AM
Tsk,tsk, baka mainggit si positive noise.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ADM202E on Aug 18, 2003 at 10:20 AM
Tsk,tsk, baka mainggit si positive noise.

I was informed that they also sell 1 unit of wharf 8.4 for P6.5k (without box din). Hmmmm....This is a good deal.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: shine on Aug 18, 2003 at 10:40 AM
Good bye nga kung makukuha mo ang 8.4 nang P6.5k lang. Not decided yet kung papalitan ko ang sa akin nang crystal40...any suggestions sa mga meron nang crystals...
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ADM202E on Aug 18, 2003 at 10:58 AM
Good bye nga kung makukuha mo ang 8.4 nang P6.5k lang. Not decided yet kung papalitan ko ang sa akin nang crystal40...any suggestions sa mga meron nang crystals...

Good buy nga pre (Im iching to have it, baka maunahan pakko ...hehehe, malamang after this wala na yun, buti pa si dex). Dapat kasama kanamin ni Onion last sat. About crystals, nakita kona da looks, mas maganda ang diamonds series, pati sa sounds. Even the sales person admittedly the downs of crystals. They (spectra) recommends diamonds or missions for yamaha/denon/marantz receiver.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Aug 18, 2003 at 11:14 AM
I was informed that they also sell 1 unit of wharf 8.4 for P6.5k (without box din). Hmmmm....This is a good deal.

sir me libre din bang region 3 dvd yun? and black ba yung kulay nung 8.4? thanks
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Onion Skin on Aug 18, 2003 at 11:22 AM
Good bye nga kung makukuha mo ang 8.4 nang P6.5k lang. Not decided yet kung papalitan ko ang sa akin nang crystal40...any suggestions sa mga meron nang crystals...

Nagtanong kami sa spectra. Sabi nila mas maganda pa rin ang diamond series. Personally, I havent heard the crystal series yet.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ADM202E on Aug 18, 2003 at 11:26 AM
sir me libre din bang region 3 dvd yun? and black ba yung kulay nung 8.4? thanks

Wala pards. Its up to you for the bidding. Mukhang mauunahan nako..........hehehehe
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 18, 2003 at 11:27 AM
bnew ba yung mga walang box or display unit?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ADM202E on Aug 18, 2003 at 11:30 AM
bnew ba yung mga walang box or display unit?

According to Jim (the sales person), yes it is. It is a display unit.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Aug 18, 2003 at 11:41 AM
According to Jim (the sales person), yes it is. It is a display unit.

katatawag ko lang sa spectra.. available pa daw yung 8.4 na black in color daw.. nde nga lang si jim nakausap ko.. 8T yung walang box..  :o
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ADM202E on Aug 18, 2003 at 12:24 PM
katatawag ko lang sa spectra.. available pa daw yung 8.4 na black in color daw.. nde nga lang si jim nakausap ko.. 8T yung walang box..  :o

Too bad, anyways its  all in the bidding. Cguro sa suki lang binibigay.  Magkano kaya original price nito?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: shine on Aug 18, 2003 at 12:42 PM
selling price sa ambassador nang 8.4 is P8,350. Kung P8k ang display unit nila, mas maganda siguro kung sealed na lang ang kunin niyo...P350 lang yan.

ganun nga ang review nila sa spectra, mas maganda daw ang diamonds, fair kaya yun na makita agad nila ang difference kahit na baguhan palang ang crystals? Take note, bago ang crystal at diamond na kinumpara nila at di pa tapos ang break-in period.

...although sa looks, pag tinanggal ang maskara. diamond pa rin ako.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Aug 18, 2003 at 01:16 PM
katatawag ko lang sa spectra.. available pa daw yung 8.4 na black in color daw.. nde nga lang si jim nakausap ko.. 8T yung walang box..  :o

Ganyan talaga sila mag quote ng price via phone, punta kayo, in-person kasi sila nagbibigay ng tawad.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Aug 18, 2003 at 01:33 PM
Ganyan talaga sila mag quote ng price via phone, punta kayo, in-person kasi sila nagbibigay ng tawad.

thanks philander... masubukan ngang pumunta..  :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Audioboy on Aug 18, 2003 at 02:43 PM
congrats sebman. kala ko you were eyeing for a different brand?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Aug 18, 2003 at 03:22 PM
mga sirs.. sorry misunderstanding lang.. wala pa akong 8.4.. hehehe nagtatanong pa lang ako..  ;D kasi mura nung 6T5 e.. kesa bumili ako nung mahal na brand..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ADM202E on Aug 18, 2003 at 03:32 PM
Ganyan talaga sila mag quote ng price via phone, punta kayo, in-person kasi sila nagbibigay ng tawad.

Marami pang libre/discount if bought in bulk/complete setup.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ADM202E on Aug 18, 2003 at 03:37 PM
ganun nga ang review nila sa spectra, mas maganda daw ang diamonds, fair kaya yun na makita agad nila ang difference kahit na baguhan palang ang crystals? Take note, bago ang crystal at diamond na kinumpara nila at di pa tapos ang break-in period.

...although sa looks, pag tinanggal ang maskara. diamond pa rin ako.

Most probably, a buyer or someone informed them of the products, who knows baka sila na mismo ang meron. About the looks, mas maganda talaga ang looks ng diamonds. For me, mas maganda pang tignan ang centre WH2 kesa sa crystal. At first, akala ko malalaki, pero I was not amazed by the looks of it. Or maybe Im wrong. Still need others review of the crystals vs diamonds. Perfomance wise, only someone who owns both can clearly compare the difference.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 19, 2003 at 09:46 AM
will the diamond center fit the top of a 21 inch tv?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Aug 19, 2003 at 10:10 AM
yeah sakto
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Aug 19, 2003 at 11:36 AM
yup saktong-sakto lang yan.  parang sinukat.  if you want something smaller get the wh2.  yung crystal center medyo maliit  ng konti sa diamond center.  just don't which is smaller wh2 or crystals pagdating sa center
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 19, 2003 at 11:39 AM
magnetically shielded ba yun diamond center
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Aug 19, 2003 at 11:41 AM
magnetically shielded ba yun diamond center

yes
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ADM202E on Aug 19, 2003 at 12:28 PM
yup saktong-sakto lang yan.  parang sinukat.  if you want something smaller get the wh2.  yung crystal center medyo maliit  ng konti sa diamond center.  just don't which is smaller wh2 or crystals pagdating sa center

mas maliit ang crystal
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Aug 19, 2003 at 03:03 PM
sa center sizes - diamond - crystal - wh2
sa ganda.. diamon- crystal din ba?  sana more reviews from crystal owners
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: positive_noise on Aug 20, 2003 at 08:09 AM
One of my friend told me that according to a Seller of Whaf! Mas maganda parin daw yung Diamond Series.

positive_noise.  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: 01SYNCTS on Aug 20, 2003 at 05:21 PM
One of my friend told me that according to a Seller of Whaf! Mas maganda parin daw yung Diamond Series.

positive_noise.  ;D

Sir, Diamonds are better than Crystals.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: basic_lang on Aug 23, 2003 at 02:18 AM
sir
wer to find spectra ? may no. ka ba nila
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Aug 23, 2003 at 01:16 PM
sir
wer to find spectra ? may no. ka ba nila

Park Square 1 - Glorietta
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Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ADM202E on Aug 26, 2003 at 10:42 AM
Guys ok lang bang gawing front speakers ang 8.1? Any suggestion please?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jofkevski on Aug 26, 2003 at 10:49 AM
I used 8.1 as my fronts and rears - they are better than 8.3/8.4 minus the low end (about 60Hz down) which you can delegate anyway to a sub. But my experience is that, even stand alone, the 8.1 pumps good bass material. 8.1 is the best and best value for all channels.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: indridcold on Aug 31, 2003 at 01:50 AM
8.1s plus DQ12 sub good combo for me. Just experiment with the settings of the sub. Also use at least 16g speaker cables for the 8.1s.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 31, 2003 at 04:53 AM
Ok din ba zaldek compared to diamond?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 31, 2003 at 01:36 PM
Gutierrez,

Zaldek is more for disco / rock or boom boom type of music ata pre while Diamond is for good HT and vocal music..  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: akyatbundok on Aug 31, 2003 at 06:03 PM
i got to hear the diamond 8.1 for the very 1st time today.  my friend brought his pair to my place together with his onkyo integrated amp.  what can i say but wow... it really does sound bigger than its size.  it benefits alot from being positioned closer to the wall (but not too close) to let it give a weighty performance.  but the best part is the midrange.  i like listening to female vocals so im biased towards speakers with good midrange.  they would be great as music speakers.  definitely worth every centavo.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 31, 2003 at 06:10 PM
Akyat,

PRe I agree  :D :D iba ang 8.1 sa lahat ng diamond series basta match sa amp 8.1 will sing..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Aug 31, 2003 at 11:17 PM
nad integrateds and a diamond 8.1 sounds real good ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jofkevski on Sep 01, 2003 at 10:28 AM
8.1s plus DQ12 sub good combo for me. Just experiment with the settings of the sub. Also use at least 16g speaker cables for the 8.1s.

Hi indridcold,
you are yet to get the best potential of your 8.1 by replacing your cable to #12AWG - it will be a big difference. I formerly used #16. Make exploit out of your 8.1.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Sep 01, 2003 at 11:37 AM
Speaking of exploits? What other enhancements did you guys do with your diamonds? Bi-wire, sand-fill (8.3/4), etc?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Sep 01, 2003 at 11:54 PM
Speaking of exploits? What other enhancements did you guys do with your diamonds? Bi-wire, sand-fill (8.3/4), etc?

8.3/4 lagyan mo ng buhangin half-filled yung ACO sand (binistay na!). kung gusto mo ng masmalinis, try mo aquarium sand yung pinaka pino, pre.  another enhancement is to bi-wire. remove the gold plated flat connectors tapos sundin mo inorder (yung mga naka-label sa bawat binding post) yung connection sa bawat wire. yet, another one of those enhancements is to upgrade the crossovers within the speakers.

yung last, di ko na sinubukan, some say that halos wala rin difference from the original.  tanong mo si mdsaint yung performance nung naka-upgrade.

para sa akin yung bi-wiring ang noticeable ang difference (ginamitan ko ng CAT5 in the following order, single braid 9 pair for LF double braid 15 pair for HF).  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Sep 02, 2003 at 10:50 AM
Pre,

Bakit yung iba sabi high guage yung LF then HF?

8.3/4 lagyan mo ng buhangin half-filled yung ACO sand (binistay na!). kung gusto mo ng masmalinis, try mo aquarium sand yung pinaka pino, pre.  another enhancement is to bi-wire. remove the gold plated flat connectors tapos sundin mo inorder (yung mga naka-label sa bawat binding post) yung connection sa bawat wire. yet, another one of those enhancements is to upgrade the crossovers within the speakers.

yung last, di ko na sinubukan, some say that halos wala rin difference from the original.  tanong mo si mdsaint yung performance nung naka-upgrade.

para sa akin yung bi-wiring ang noticeable ang difference (ginamitan ko ng CAT5 in the following order, single braid 9 pair for LF double braid 15 pair for HF).  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jofkevski on Sep 02, 2003 at 01:24 PM
you are correct, use the high gauge for the LF and low gauge to HF. However, I suggest, before doing that, compare using all wires 9+15 pairs to connect both LF/LF to your system, and the biwiring, and select which one suits you most.

I am experimenting with 32pairs UTP twisted cable. have not compared seriously yet with #10AWG if there is any difference.

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Sep 02, 2003 at 01:33 PM
you are correct, use the high gauge for the LF and low gauge to HF. However, I suggest, before doing that, compare using all wires 9+15 pairs to connect both LF/LF to your system, and the biwiring, and select which one suits you most.

I am experimenting with 32pairs UTP twisted cable. have not compared seriously yet with #10AWG if there is any difference.



yup jofkevski is right, i tried it both but the config that i prefer is 9 pair for LF and 15 pair for HF(might be the braiding procedure that i did?).  i haven't tried experimenting without the braids yet.  double braids kasi yung ginagawa ko for the cables.  does this really have an effect, jofkevski? inputs naman bosing.  am also in the process of making a 21 pair double braid.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jofkevski on Sep 02, 2003 at 05:31 PM
yup jofkevski is right, i tried it both but the config that i prefer is 9 pair for LF and 15 pair for HF(might be the braiding procedure that i did?).  i haven't tried experimenting without the braids yet.  double braids kasi yung ginagawa ko for the cables.  does this really have an effect, jofkevski? inputs naman bosing.  am also in the process of making a 21 pair double braid.

Baka mamis-interpret. I did not use UTP cable as is. But instead of braiding (painful and time consuming tasks), what I did is to prepare 4 runs of UTP, strip them altogether from their PVC jacket, then twist them altogether in an orderly and consistent form (aesthetics) to a point that they will form a single rolled cable without going back to their original form - meaning they hug each other permanently. this makes the first 16-pairs (4pair x 4 cable). Then make another one again thru the same procedure to come up with the next 16-pair twisted together. Then braid the two 16pair cable, while braiding, giving another slight twist to the direction that will compel each 16pair group to hug the other (its a technique though), and presto I have a pair of 32pair cable aker in about 4 hours continuous work.

I have tested this for a short while, replacing my 2x #12AWG per speaker, and I think I like the sound, but can not tell exactly the difference as I have not sat for quite a long time with my system due to other pressing needs.

Doing 21pairs or 24 pairs or 15+9 pairs is worth the effort if you refuse to spend on expensive cable. I will post the equivalent gauges doing your cable and the theoretical implication it has on your sound later.

My Diamond 8.1 is presently tied to #10AWG being tested as well, while my 32pair waits until his time comes. My initial assessment: on the bass portion, I did not notice any significant change. In the HF, the 8.1 seems to have more clarity with the 32pair. I do not have the 27pair made by losi_phile though.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Sep 02, 2003 at 05:39 PM
Bro,

I've read that there is really a positive effect on SQ when you braid them.  Kimpao did braiding, maybe he can throw some inputs.  :)

Baka mamis-interpret. I did not use UTP cable as is. But instead of braiding (painful and time consuming tasks), what I did is to prepare 4 runs of UTP, strip them altogether from their PVC jacket, then twist them altogether in an orderly and consistent form (aesthetics) to a point that they will form a single rolled cable without going back to their original form - meaning they hug each other permanently. this makes the first 16-pairs (4pair x 4 cable). Then make another one again thru the same procedure to come up with the next 16-pair twisted together. Then braid the two 16pair cable, while braiding, giving another slight twist to the direction that will compel each 16pair group to hug the other (its a technique though), and presto I have a pair of 32pair cable aker in about 4 hours continuous work.

I have tested this for a short while, replacing my 2x #12AWG per speaker, and I think I like the sound, but can not tell exactly the difference as I have not sat for quite a long time with my system due to other pressing needs.

Doing 21pairs or 24 pairs or 15+9 pairs is worth the effort if you refuse to spend on expensive cable. I will post the equivalent gauges doing your cable and the theoretical implication it has on your sound later.

My Diamond 8.1 is presently tied to #10AWG being tested as well, while my 32pair waits until his time comes. My initial assessment: on the bass portion, I did not notice any significant change. In the HF, the 8.1 seems to have more clarity with the 32pair. I do not have the 27pair made by losi_phile though.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Sep 02, 2003 at 11:01 PM
Bro,

I've read that there is really a positive effect on SQ when you braid them.  Kimpao did braiding, maybe he can throw some inputs.  :)

mga bro,

eto lang (jofkevski is right, its painful and time consuming, am currently working on a 15 pair double braid that is around 8 meters at end result).  i prepared 4 runs of UTP cables and stripped them from the jacket. since there are 16 twisted pairs, i discarded one pair.  i then re-twisted each pair so that they will have an even number of twists per meter.  i braided three pairs tightly and evenly, repeating this 5 times until i completed 5 lengths of single braid 3 pairs.  then braid the 5 single braided lengths tighly together to come up with the 15 pair double braid.  i started my setup by using 16g wires when i hooked my 15 pair, mas defined yung mids and highs niya. then i started bi-wiring them using a pair of 15 braids, since i was using 8.4's then (crystal 40's now) medyo labas na yung bass niya kahit hindi bi-wire so i switched to 9 braids for the LF para hindi maging boomy yung tunog.

i'ved read from the url's that i previously posted that the 21 pair double braid is best, overall (meron pa akong mga sobrang UTP, might as well do the 21 braid)

actually, nagpasobra akong ng mga 3 meters dun sa current project ko, kaso kay mdsaint ko pinangako yung sobra for him to test the cables once i get to finish it.

mdsaint, konting antay nalang matatpos na rin itong cable. ahehehehe  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Sep 03, 2003 at 09:01 AM
thanks kimpao :) hehe.. dont worry im a patient man
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 03, 2003 at 12:23 PM
Mdsaint,

Pre when you got the cable.....











pwede makirinig din hehehe
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Sep 03, 2003 at 04:07 PM
Puwede ba itagay yang cable ni kimpao sa iba-ibang setup? hehehe... parinig din ako.  ;D

Mdsaint,

Pre when you got the cable.....











pwede makirinig din hehehe
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Sep 03, 2003 at 06:04 PM
sure.. he's only lending it to me for testing :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jofkevski on Sep 04, 2003 at 04:20 PM
yup jofkevski is right, i tried it both but the config that i prefer is 9 pair for LF and 15 pair for HF(might be the braiding procedure that i did?).  i haven't tried experimenting without the braids yet.  double braids kasi yung ginagawa ko for the cables.  does this really have an effect, jofkevski? inputs naman bosing.  am also in the process of making a 21 pair double braid.

I have started posting a 5-part series about speaker cable, including the 9/ 15/ 21/ 24/ 27/ 32 pair Belden 1853A UTP cable in the thread SPEAKER CABLE AND INTERCONNECTS. Refer na lang don para di ma out of place and topic here.

Part 1 - Impedance and resistance
Part 2 - Inductance
Part 3 - capacitance
Part 4 - economies
Part 5 - tweaking cabling (biwiring)

FYI
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Sep 04, 2003 at 05:38 PM
was about to suggest the same thing (moving the topic to the right thread) also.  thanks jofkevski
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Jairus on Sep 05, 2003 at 08:52 AM
kimpao,

how/where do you put in sand in an 8.3/8.4?

thanks,

jairus
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Sep 05, 2003 at 11:48 AM
theres a small rubber bung at the back of the 8.3/8.4 - its quite hard to pull it out.. once opened..theres a separate chamber wherein you can put sand.. dont worry cause this chamber is separate from the main speakers enclosure.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Sep 07, 2003 at 12:18 AM
Guys,

Bi-wired my 8.3 and Center yesterday.  Deeper and defined bass, defined mids and highs.  Frequencies i never heard before can now be heard... ASTIG!!!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ADM202E on Sep 16, 2003 at 04:54 PM
Anyone care to sell eighter 8.1s or 8.3s for reasonable yet A1 condition units?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Superman on Sep 16, 2003 at 05:10 PM
Anyone care to sell eighter 8.1s or 8.3s for reasonable yet A1 condition units?

an 8.3 is being sold at the marketplace...check it out...thanks!  8)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Sep 17, 2003 at 01:15 AM
hello guys!
just bought myself an 8.3 today. funny but when we paired it with Rotel amp, sound is abit thin. But it was really big on the NAD C320 at the shop. same naman sila 50W amp.

I'll start break-in tonight with my NADC350. how do I make this process less painstaking? Or should I go slow? how many hours of no sleep na ito?

am going to use this set for my head banging, pelvis twisting musak! :) yahu!

brother slayer! tulong :)

thanks guys

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Sep 17, 2003 at 07:10 AM
wharfedale diamonds take a long time to break in.. i suggest to do your normal listening lang..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Sep 17, 2003 at 09:08 AM
wharfedale diamonds take a long time to break in.. i suggest to do your normal listening lang..

Yup matagal ngang ma break in ang Wharfs
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ADM202E on Sep 17, 2003 at 10:02 AM
bro sigma,
sent you a pm.
fyi.

vax  8)

Thanks dude, will ask mah sistah for the "sentimental" value of 45.1 'Will inform you tomorrow.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Sep 17, 2003 at 11:13 AM
breaking-in whafs is a long process, just try not to push it to the limit.  normal listening levels lang muna. what you can do is try to bi-wire it after a week or two, somehow you'll hear a very big difference then pag na break-in na try putting in sand (it has rubber bungs at the back, just carefully remove this).  another thing, daimonds are lousy at corners, so i suggest you place it atleast 0.5 to 0.7 meters away from room corners.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Sep 17, 2003 at 11:21 AM
Bruce!!

Yahuf sa avatar ah! bruce na bruce! ahehehe...

bro yung na audition mo ba display unit nila at yan na yung inuwi mo? Sabi nga nila... matagal e-break-in ang Wharfs. Matigas talaga out of the box.  Sa akin mahigit 1 mos palang still breaking-in.

Pre pa audition naman ng wharf/nad combo mo.

hello guys!
just bought myself an 8.3 today. funny but when we paired it with Rotel amp, sound is abit thin. But it was really big on the NAD C320 at the shop. same naman sila 50W amp.

I'll start break-in tonight with my NADC350. how do I make this process less painstaking? Or should I go slow? how many hours of no sleep na ito?

am going to use this set for my head banging, pelvis twisting musak! :) yahu!

brother slayer! tulong :)

thanks guys


Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Sep 17, 2003 at 01:57 PM
its either you wait for them to break in or just switch to missions for lesser breakin time. Although i'm not using wharfedale diamonds I am using a floorstander with an 8 inch kevlar woofer, medyo matagal talaga, initially matigas yung bass, pero pagtagal... ;D btw if you have a high powered amp you'll really hear how well they perform, ganoon talaga yata characteristic ng kevlar. B&W speakers use kevlar drivers and they sound best when used by high powered amps.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: johnlen on Sep 17, 2003 at 02:37 PM
which is why you can tweak the diamonds by adding a crossover inside  ;D

guys,

pagka alam ko lahat ng speakers (kung hindi din lang full range) may crossover sa loob.

crossover is used to filter frequency response of a particular driver.

for example, in a 3-way speaker system like the diamond 8.4, a crossover is needed so that only high frequencies go to the tweater, the mid frequencies go to the midrange driver, and the low to go to the bass driver or woofer.

without the crossover, i am almost certain that the tweeter will blow up in no time as it cannot handle frequencies other than the highs. i am also certain that a 3-way or 2 way speaker would sound awful without the crossover.

the thing one wonders is the kind and type of crossover components used with the diamonds with its relatively cheap price. yes, your guess is good as mine - not so good crossover quality! this is the reason why upgrading the crossover components to better quality parts would result in improvement in sound.

just my two cents worth of ideas.  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Sep 17, 2003 at 02:45 PM
my apologies for any confusion regarding that post. I was referring for the 8.1s only. What i meant was to change the crossover used in the 8.1s :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Sep 17, 2003 at 02:47 PM
guys,

pagka alam ko lahat ng speakers (kung hindi din lang full range) may crossover sa loob.

Not all, even some branded speakers does not have crossover network. Some just add capacitor (and/or resistor) as condenser.


What john5479 probably meant is you can tweak/change the crossover inside .
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Sep 17, 2003 at 06:08 PM
Like john said... characteristics ng kevlar ang stiff sounding and longer breaking-in period.  :)

its either you wait for them to break in or just switch to missions for lesser breakin time. Although i'm not using wharfedale diamonds I am using a floorstander with an 8 inch kevlar woofer, medyo matagal talaga, initially matigas yung bass, pero pagtagal... ;D btw if you have a high powered amp you'll really hear how well they perform, ganoon talaga yata characteristic ng kevlar. B&W speakers use kevlar drivers and they sound best when used by high powered amps.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Sep 18, 2003 at 02:23 PM
thanks guys for the reps.
had the chance to audition slayers set-up last night. it sounded way different from mine. anyways am blasting the kevlars already on my new set. can't wait to hear my neighbors knocking..hehe..this 8.3 is such a blast!

hope it will last me till the break-in period.:lol:
sabi ng shop 3mos. daw break-in period..huhuhu..

again thanks!
mabuhay!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Sep 18, 2003 at 03:45 PM
blast away!!!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 18, 2003 at 04:32 PM
Trystereo,

Congrats pre!! malupet yan 8.3 okie na okie for party yan pre..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Sep 21, 2003 at 02:00 PM
hans!
hehe...thanks dude..kitatok nako ng kapitbahay kagabi...

ayaw daw nila ng Queen!!! :lol:
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Sep 22, 2003 at 10:06 AM
Bohemian Rapsody!!

hans!
hehe...thanks dude..kitatok nako ng kapitbahay kagabi...

ayaw daw nila ng Queen!!! :lol:
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 22, 2003 at 12:21 PM
Trystereo,

Try mo Gun N Roses.. sweet child baka gusto pre!!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Sep 22, 2003 at 12:42 PM
baka naman spaghetti na kanta ng s*xbomb dancers ang gusto niyan.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jester99 on Sep 26, 2003 at 02:02 PM
ok ba ang yamaha + wharfedale for both HT and Music?

Am planning to get yamaha 440 + diamonds or better ba ang marantz 4300 + diamonds?.

T.Y.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Sep 26, 2003 at 02:07 PM
if you're leaning towards wharfs for speakers, go for HK 2550 or 3550, di ka magsi-sisi dito.  ok ang HK and wharf combi (50/50 for movies and audio).  kung more on HT then get the RX-V440 :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: redkoji on Sep 27, 2003 at 04:17 PM
Hey Dude,

we tested the Sherwood Receivers with this speakers and the match is satisfactory....so if your wanting for a budget type receiver, this one can be used with satisfactory result.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 28, 2003 at 04:42 PM
Jester 99,

HK and wharf best match yan pre music/HT ok na ok!!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: garee on Sep 29, 2003 at 01:45 PM
is the WH2 better than the 8.2?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 29, 2003 at 01:47 PM
For Fronts?? 8.2 pre WH2 is good for surround.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: garee on Sep 29, 2003 at 02:09 PM
i mean WH-2 in compare with diamond 8 dfs and center
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: garee on Sep 29, 2003 at 02:10 PM
Our WH-2 package consists of two bipolar rear speakers and a centre channel for adding to your existing front stereo speakers to produce a multi-channel system with ideal characteristics for Home Cinema and multi-channel music - without the need to trade-in your beloved stereo speakers.
Bipolar means that both sets of drive units respond in phase (at exactly the same time). With a pair of these mounted on a rear wall, the inner set of drive units provides a direct stereo image, whereas the other set of drive units, fires towards and bounces off the wall. This provides the ambient sound and creates a sense of space and openness around the subject.

A centre channel has to have a smooth even frequency response throughout the vocal section of the sonic spectrum - tuned slightly differently from other speakers, the centre channel will handle most of the dialogue and vocals, making it one of the most important speakers in any package - ours is no exception.

So, before you sacrifice your system completely to multi-channel, ask for an audition of WH-2 and enjoy the best of both worlds.

in compare with Diamond 8 DFS and Diamond 8 center speakers
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Sep 29, 2003 at 03:35 PM
Pre,

I suggest you go with 8.2 and DFS 8.  A lot of people are not happy with their WH-2.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: garee on Sep 30, 2003 at 08:40 AM
is Diamonds with DQ12 well matched with Denon or Yamaha?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: cousin skeeter on Sep 30, 2003 at 09:32 AM
peeps, will be purchasing my speakers soon, mission m72i as my fronts and maybe wharfs for my center and surround. will they match? coz i cant afford to have missions for my center and surround. where can you buy the cheapest wharfs? btw, will be pairing them with a yamaha620.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: garee on Sep 30, 2003 at 10:13 AM
the WH2 i think is the cheapest which costs P3.8k, bipolar surround and center. available in sights and sounds park square2 makati.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 30, 2003 at 12:40 PM
Garee,

Thanks for the explanation  ;D ;D but I would rather go for the Diamond center and diamond DFS combo than the WH2.

DQ12, Denon, Yamaha and diamond  oo naman pre ok sila..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: garee on Sep 30, 2003 at 01:30 PM
thanks Hans.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Sep 30, 2003 at 01:30 PM
based from a lot of pinoydvd members . most wh2 owners sold their speakers in exchange for the diamond model. so to make life easier. just get the diamonds. truly a better performer
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Sep 30, 2003 at 05:21 PM
cousin skeeter,

Normaly, to have a good sound staging and balance (timbre)... you should have the same models for your fronts and center.  Surrounds can be any speaker you like.

peeps, will be purchasing my speakers soon, mission m72i as my fronts and maybe wharfs for my center and surround. will they match? coz i cant afford to have missions for my center and surround. where can you buy the cheapest wharfs? btw, will be pairing them with a yamaha620.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jofkevski on Sep 30, 2003 at 06:36 PM
If normally is for the 3 front speakers to be the same, the ideal is that all speakers should be of same models (not same series of the same brand). That i did employing 8.1 all around.  8)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: tamulmol on Oct 01, 2003 at 07:00 PM
Two weeks ago I audiotioned at Listening Room the WH-2 partner with 8.3 and US audio Sub.  After few minutes of listening I ask them to try the DFS 8 plus the Diamond center.  Mas clear ang tunog ibang klase yung Diamond center compare doon sa WH-2 so iyon ang binili ko....

Of course base yan sa taste ko...OOngi..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: dolby on Oct 01, 2003 at 11:12 PM
okey bang combination wharfedale and Onkyo?

wala pa kasi ako nabasa ganitong combination.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Oct 02, 2003 at 12:53 AM
ganyan akin dati wharf 8.3 , center and 8.1 w onkyo 500

for me. it was ok for music.but not for ht. also think that hirap ang onkyo to power the wharfs. my own opinion only.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: dexterc on Oct 02, 2003 at 01:06 AM
ganyan akin dati wharf 8.3 , center and 8.1 w onkyo 500

for me. it was ok for music.but not for ht. also think that hirap ang onkyo to power the wharfs. my own opinion only.

Bro,

Long time no hear..kaya pala nag upgrade ka he!!he!!

dex
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Oct 02, 2003 at 11:06 AM
onkyo 500 ang mas modelo sa 575... di ko alam ilang watts ang 575
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Oct 02, 2003 at 11:07 AM
Bro,

Long time no hear..kaya pala nag upgrade ka he!!he!!

dex

yeah dex.. thats the reason :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: dolby on Oct 02, 2003 at 11:08 AM
ganyan akin dati wharf 8.3 , center and 8.1 w onkyo 500

for me. it was ok for music.but not for ht. also think that hirap ang onkyo to power the wharfs. my own opinion only.

kung mas mataas na watts na onkyo? onkyo 575
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Oct 02, 2003 at 01:33 PM
im not sure if mas mataas ang wattage 575 na onkyo.. and alam ko lang older version pa yun sa 500.. so cant say
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: triplex on Oct 02, 2003 at 01:37 PM
for those who tried bi wiring their 8.1s, what gauge of wires did you use for the HF anf LF?  ok lang ba if i used thesame gauge of wires for both HF and LF which is 14 gauge? or should i use gauge 16, yung mas manipis for the High Frequency?

thanks!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile on Oct 02, 2003 at 03:18 PM
for those who tried bi wiring their 8.1s, what gauge of wires did you use for the HF anf LF?  ok lang ba if i used thesame gauge of wires for both HF and LF which is 14 gauge? or should i use gauge 16, yung mas manipis for the High Frequency?

thanks!

There's this school of thought that says high frequencies starting at around 16k tend to travel at the outer periphery of a cable.  Called the SKIN EFFECT of frequencies on cables  It's true especially for data transmission whose frequenieies are way above human audibility.  Practical application here is that it makes no sense to use tihick gauge cables for high frequency propagation.  Applying it to audio means using thinner wires for HF is preferred.

Personally, I consider cost a more telling factor if you had to bi-wire.  Using a 14 gauge for your LF is ok.  Using a 16 gauge on your HF is cheaper and  more practical and wouldn't really matter sonically.  Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Gibson78 on Oct 02, 2003 at 04:19 PM
Hello po. baguhan lang - getting a Yamaha RX V430 or 440 and Wharfedale Diamond 8 set. 8.1 for surrounds, 8.3 or 8.4 for the fronts and a Diamond center. Pa post naman ng mga updated running prices - or just email me na lang the details. Ty.

Also, meron na bang gumamit dito ng Cat5 15 na DIY for speaker cables on wharfs? kamusta naman diff thru an AVR? Yammi?

Eto po : [email protected]

Salamat.  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: triplex on Oct 03, 2003 at 10:57 AM
try nelrey's wharfs, just recently got my 8.1s at a cheaper price from him. 09178479595  qc area near aurora.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: tamulmol on Oct 03, 2003 at 08:21 PM
Ako two weeks ago bumili ng Wharf 8.3 (6,980.00) Diamond Center (3,780.00) Dfs 8 (4,400) plus US audio 8" (5,500) sa listening room para i-match sa nabili kong Yammy 430.  The best ang performance para sa mga low budget quality HT system...OOngi.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Oct 03, 2003 at 08:25 PM
bro, sana nag 8.1 ka na instead of getting dfs difference of 300 bucks lang.  mas ok gamitin yung 8.1 for surround :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jerix on Oct 06, 2003 at 11:41 AM
hey guys!

i tested the Wharf atlantic 200b sa SM fairview driven by a konzert amp. to my ears ok ung crispiness nya and its bass is tight. at high db level smooth pa rin sha. this is 100 w / 90 db sensitivity. Price- 4,590php.

anybody here using this? mga sirs post nyo naman review nyo sa speakers nato--thnks  ;D

 
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: MJ-JM on Oct 06, 2003 at 01:09 PM
hey guys!

i tested the Wharf atlantic 200b sa SM fairview driven by a konzert amp. to my ears ok ung crispiness nya and its bass is tight. at high db level smooth pa rin sha. this is 100 w / 90 db sensitivity. Price- 4,590php.

anybody here using this? mga sirs post nyo naman review nyo sa speakers nato--thnks  ;D



Hi jerix,

Di ako audiophile but i have used this as my front speakers for 6 months using pioneer 511S. Medyo mataas yung highs and mids pero parang kulang ang bass para sa akin (siguro dahil sa pioneer, parang yamaha,,, makalansing) pero ok parin ang tunog depende sa positioning ng speaker na ito.. di gaano buo unlike yung 8.4 with pioneer. sarap ng bass... now i use atlantic 200 for my surrounds.

Regards,
HTNovice
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jerix on Oct 06, 2003 at 01:25 PM
Hi HTnovice,

thnks for the info. u know siguro this model can help my HT setup. with the big sub i got from NIRVBLAKR, kinulang ng highs ang sounds ko. if ill get this, idadagdag ko lang sa present setup ko via series connection para ma improve ung mids and highs ng setup ko.  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: MJ-JM on Oct 06, 2003 at 02:01 PM
is it ok to set the yamaha's impedance to 4ohms when using wharf 8.4, center, and atlantic 200... these are all 6ohms... di ba madadamage yung receiver (440) at speakers

Thanks.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Oct 06, 2003 at 02:09 PM
Set it to 8 ohms.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Oct 06, 2003 at 02:10 PM
is it ok to set the yamaha's impedance to 4ohms when using wharf 8.4, center, and atlantic 200... these are all 6ohms... di ba madadamage yung receiver (440) at speakers

Thanks.

yung receiver will have a hard time to drive those speakers.  have you tried or checked other settings for your receiver? ano current settings mo sa receiver?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: MJ-JM on Oct 06, 2003 at 02:29 PM
yung receiver will have a hard time to drive those speakers.  have you tried or checked other settings for your receiver? ano current settings mo sa receiver?

manipis kasi bass pag nakaset sa 8ohms yung impedance ng receiver kahit nakaset na sa large yung front. nagkabass lang nung niset ko sa 4ohms. sabi sa manual pag set to 4 ohms, front speaker should be 4/8ohms or higher, center and surround should be 6ohms or higher...
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: tamulmol on Oct 06, 2003 at 10:34 PM
kimpao, ako nga din sisi bakit dfs pa bili ko hirap tuloy ikabit.  Sabi kasi ng taga listening room mas OK ang dfs kesa 8.1 na pang surround.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Oct 07, 2003 at 12:48 AM
tamulmol, was at nelreys place last saturday, naka sabay ko si newbie. he was planning to get the dfs for surrounds and wh2 for centers.  sabi namin sayang lang if he gets those two items.  we told him to get the 8.1 for surround and might as well save up for the diamond center. iba pa ein yung tunog ng 8.1, di siya masakit sa tenga.  bro, try mo maglagay ng sand (bistay, advise ni bos levi) sa loob ng 8.3 para mas tight yung bass.  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jerix on Oct 07, 2003 at 08:15 AM
mga Sirs:

un bang 8.1 ok ba sha to use in a 36 sqm HT area? this is the size of my living room kasi. i am still thinking of what wharf model to get to support my existing setup.

my present speakers are the big old speakers which i bought way back 5 yrs ago when i was not yet a member of this forum.

with the big AA sub, i already have enough lows. gusto ko naman e-improve ang mids and highs. i am planning to connect the speakers in series with the present speakers. m choosing between the 8.1 and the atlantic 200. sa tingin nyo guys which is better for my setup? thanks for any advise.  :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Oct 07, 2003 at 12:03 PM
bro, might as well consider 8.3 or 8.4 if your really planning on getting wharfs.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: MJ-JM on Oct 07, 2003 at 12:15 PM
bro, might as well consider 8.3 or 8.4 if your really planning on getting wharfs.

tama si sir kimpao, kayang kayang ng pioneer mo yan sir jerix. no problem driving 8.4  ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Oct 07, 2003 at 12:23 PM
tama si sir kimpao, kayang kayang ng pioneer mo yan sir jerix. no problem driving 8.4  ;)

sa 8.4 kahit ala ka subs ok yan.  medyo malaki yung 36sqm for 8.1 sakto sa 8.4 yan
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile on Oct 07, 2003 at 03:02 PM

my present speakers are the big old speakers which i bought way back 5 yrs ago when i was not yet a member of this forum.

with the big AA sub, i already have enough lows. gusto ko naman e-improve ang mids and highs. i am planning to connect the speakers in series with the present speakers. m choosing between the 8.1 and the atlantic 200. sa tingin nyo guys which is better for my setup? thanks for any advise.  :)

May we know what your "big old" speakers are?  It's not always necessary that the newer speakers are better than the old.

If your new speakers do not share the same timbre, phase,  on-and off axis behaviour, and sensitivity as your old speakers, connecting them in series and playing them together in tandem could introduce sonic complexities that could further confuse and erode the sounds reaching your ears instead of getting better defined mids and highs.  

If the old is not as good as the new speakers, I suggest your pick the one that sounds better to you and let it play without any interference from the other.  Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jerix on Oct 07, 2003 at 04:04 PM
May we know what your "big old" speakers are?  It's not always necessary that the newer speakers are better than the old.


sir,

 ;D if u still remember the MICRO, more than 10 yrs old na,  ung isang pair nman mas bago-bago pa ELECTOWN lang yun, about 6 yrs old and the other pair, no name actually. they're all 10 inchers kaya they got big sound pero yun nga medyo bitin sa mids and highs.  :(
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile on Oct 07, 2003 at 04:24 PM
I know many Micro speakers have sensitivities in the 92db+ range. Not sure about yours.  Connecting it in series with a new less senstive  Wharfe (at 89db) would, apart from diminishing the power going to either, render the superiority of the Wharfe's mids and highs almost inaudible.  You can always try ofcourse.  But my previous suggestion that you only use one or the other, not both, remains.  Unless you have a way to do active of passive band-passing between the old and new.

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jerix on Oct 07, 2003 at 04:31 PM
ok sir, ill just follow ur advise-- thanks  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Gibson78 on Oct 08, 2003 at 01:38 PM
Hello, question po about the yamaha rx v440 and wharfedale combi - nahihirapan ba mag drive yung yammi sa wharfes? kelangan ba i pa tweak ang sensitivity ng wharfes para hindi mahirapan ang yammi?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 08, 2003 at 03:34 PM
Gibson,

Yamaha can drive wharf or any other speaker.. best cguro is wait for your speakers to fully break in to know the true sound then kung ayaw mo sound thats the time to tweak.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: dolby on Oct 08, 2003 at 04:12 PM
san ba pwedeng mag pa tweak? how much mag pa tweak?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Oct 08, 2003 at 04:15 PM
dolby try to contact Doc Nirv and anthony
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: shine on Oct 08, 2003 at 08:46 PM
dating setup ko is wharf 8.4 and yamaha 430. wala naman akong naging problema, kayang-kaya nang 430 ang 8.4.

hintayin mo munang matapos ang break-in period nang speaker mo...medyo matagal ang wharf bago lumabas ang true sound niya...yan experience ko sa 8.3 and 8.4 dati.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: newbie on Oct 09, 2003 at 12:50 PM
just got my 8.3 last saturday from nelrey (met kimpao there)
medyo mahina yung bass using rxv440
payat yung sound nya pag naka-off yung sound
talaga bang mag iiba pa ang tunog non after a while?

any suggestion para mapabilis ang break-in?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 09, 2003 at 12:52 PM
Usually break period are 50 to 100 hours pero para mabilis ma break in try mo face to face style of breakin in..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: newbie on Oct 09, 2003 at 12:57 PM
tamulmol, was at nelreys place last saturday, naka sabay ko si newbie. he was planning to get the dfs for surrounds and wh2 for centers.  sabi namin sayang lang if he gets those two items.  we told him to get the 8.1 for surround and might as well save up for the diamond center. iba pa ein yung tunog ng 8.1, di siya masakit sa tenga.  bro, try mo maglagay ng sand (bistay, advise ni bos levi) sa loob ng 8.3 para mas tight yung bass.  
kimpao, i ordered the wh2 set from nelrey to be delivered on saturday here in calamba. medyo tight kse budget.  btw, how's the performance of crystal 10 for surrounds as compared to 8.1s? nice meeting you bro.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: newbie on Oct 09, 2003 at 02:15 PM
Usually break period are 50 to 100 hours pero para mabilis ma break in try mo face to face style of breakin in..

thanks Hans Adriane. will try that.

how about the type of music to be played?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: newbie on Oct 09, 2003 at 02:21 PM
just got my 8.3 last saturday from nelrey (met kimpao there)
medyo mahina yung bass using rxv440
payat yung sound nya pag naka-off yung sound sub
talaga bang mag iiba pa ang tunog non after a while?

any suggestion para mapabilis ang break-in?


re-post, sori wrong mistake :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Oct 09, 2003 at 02:22 PM
kimpao, i ordered the wh2 set from nelrey to be delivered on saturday here in calamba. medyo tight kse budget.  btw, how's the performance of crystal 10 for surrounds as compared to 8.1s? nice meeting you bro.

bro, pareho lang tunong ng cr-10 sa 8.1 sa ngayon dahil di pa broken-in. bi-wire mo yung 8.3 para lumakas yung bass niya 12g sa LF 14g sa HF.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: newbie on Oct 09, 2003 at 03:29 PM
bro, pareho lang tunong ng cr-10 sa 8.1 sa ngayon dahil di pa broken-in. bi-wire mo yung 8.3 para lumakas yung bass niya 12g sa LF 14g sa HF.

will try that, how about the speaker impedance, di ba magbabago yun pag na bi-wire? (sabagay, magkikita din naman yung dulo ng wires sa amp side)

just curious, pano kung sa bi-amp set-up? mababago ba talaga impedance ng speaker pag naka bi-wire?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Oct 09, 2003 at 03:36 PM
hmm, bi-amp? never done that and probably never will ;D. mahirap na, baka may masira ;D bro, try mo yung sand tweak i was telling you then. ok yun, mas tight  yung bass. :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: MJ-JM on Oct 09, 2003 at 03:53 PM
just got my 8.3 last saturday from nelrey (met kimpao there)
medyo mahina yung bass using rxv440
payat yung sound nya pag naka-off yung sound
talaga bang mag iiba pa ang tunog non after a while?

any suggestion para mapabilis ang break-in?


Hi newbie,

ganyan din problem ko sa 8.4 ko. try mo muna rapid break-in mga 12 to 18 hrs. tapos bi-wire ka. lalabas ang bass nya. set mo rin sa +10 yung bass  :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: MJ-JM on Oct 09, 2003 at 03:56 PM
bro, pareho lang tunong ng cr-10 sa 8.1 sa ngayon dahil di pa broken-in. bi-wire mo yung 8.3 para lumakas yung bass niya 12g sa LF 14g sa HF.

sir pano napagsama yung 14ga at 12ga biwiring kaysa ba ito sa terminal ng 440? sa akin kasi makapal na yung 12ga. info naman po kung pano mo nitwist/combine yung dalawa para magkasya sa speaker terminal.

thanks.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Oct 09, 2003 at 04:04 PM
heavy duty banana plugs will do the trick ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: newbie on Oct 09, 2003 at 04:26 PM
sir pano napagsama yung 14ga at 12ga biwiring kaysa ba ito sa terminal ng 440? sa akin kasi makapal na yung 12ga. info naman po kung pano mo nitwist/combine yung dalawa para magkasya sa speaker terminal.

thanks.

HT,
Thanks for the advice.

re:banana plugs, i bought this gold plated banana plugs from nelrey for 100pesos each. I think it can hold as much as 4 lines of 12ga.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: MJ-JM on Oct 09, 2003 at 04:34 PM
re:banana plugs, i bought this gold plated banana plugs from nelrey for 100pesos each. I think it can hold as much as 4 lines of 12ga.

How did you connect the speaker wire to the receiver's speaker terminal? di kasi pwede banana plug sa 440.

Thanks.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: triplex on Oct 09, 2003 at 04:52 PM
HTNovice,

san ka nakakuha ng 12g na speaker cables? anong tatak and how much per meter?

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Oct 09, 2003 at 04:52 PM
bro, pwede yan sa 440.  may butas dun sa binding screws ng  receiver.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: newbie on Oct 09, 2003 at 05:01 PM
kimpao is right, mine is 440 and i used banana plugs to connect the speakers
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: MJ-JM on Oct 09, 2003 at 05:20 PM
kimpao is right, mine is 440 and i used banana plugs to connect the speakers

 ??? bakit sa akin wala? sabi sa manual european model lang pwede banana plug. ibig sabihin panget model nung akin? saka 50hz lang di 60hz yung AC. made in malaysia. mukhang singapore model ng 440 ko.

Ok lang ba na gamitin ito sa atin?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: MJ-JM on Oct 09, 2003 at 05:30 PM
HTNovice,

san ka nakakuha ng 12g na speaker cables? anong tatak and how much per meter?



sir generic lang po na 12g, dont know the brand. 60 per meter. meron sa phasetron (20% discount pag cash) at premiere sights and sound sa parksquare.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: dolby on Oct 11, 2003 at 12:33 PM

anong mas okey na pang front 8.1 or 8.2?

tnx
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Oct 12, 2003 at 01:10 PM
8.1, read several articles that 8.1 is much better than 8.2.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: newbie on Oct 13, 2003 at 08:16 AM
HTNovice,

san ka nakakuha ng 12g na speaker cables? anong tatak and how much per meter?



triplex,  got my 12ga wires from Sound Studio (not sure of store's name) fronting Bose store at festival mall @100/mtr, Acoustic Research
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: triplex on Oct 13, 2003 at 09:54 AM
htnovice, newbie, thanks for the info on where to get the 12g cables.

dolby, i use 8.1 for my fronts, ok naman. kailangan lang ng magandang SubWoofer  to compliment it.

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: dolby on Oct 13, 2003 at 10:07 AM
malakas narin ba bass ng 8.2?  ano bang different ng 8.1 and 8.2 sa sound?


regarding sa speaker wire punta kayo sa raon mas mura nakabili ako ng 12g for 20 pesos per meter.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 13, 2003 at 05:31 PM
Dolby,

8.1 mas maganda vocal compare to 8.2 kung bass syempre meron yun 8.2 but I feel bitin pa rin kaya better have sub to compliment konti lang naman bookshelf na can go low have them before but love the 8.1 than his big brother..

HTnovice,

sa terminal pre meron saksakan dun pero you have to take out the plactic cover (small circle) that cover the hole for banana plug.. sa raon pre 80 to 90 pesos per pair na... yun gauge 12 35 to 45 pesos naman...
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Rivalz on Oct 13, 2003 at 05:53 PM
Sir ano thoughts nyo on the Bi-polar diamonds for combi with LCR  fpr HT? Center is 8.1 Wharfs.  Surrounds bookshelf na Wharfs. Is the bookshelf or the bi-polar type Wharfs better for fronts? They sound mostly the same. Salamat
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: tamulmol on Oct 13, 2003 at 09:15 PM
kung ako sa yo pare mag bookshelf ka na lang kesa sa mag bipolar.  Nakabili ako last month ng DFS 8, OK naman siya tumunog kaya lang mas maganda siya kung nakalagay sa side mo (nakaharap sa dalawang tenga mo) kesa sa nakaharap sa likod mo.... Try to consider yung location mo pag bipolar ginamit mo.  OOngi palagay ko lang yon....
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Rivalz on Oct 14, 2003 at 09:22 AM
Salamat Tamulmol sa suggestion, just to let you know pang kwarto lang bosing. I saw it kasi as part of the Yamaha package sale so was wondering if they were ok.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: triplex on Oct 14, 2003 at 09:31 AM
those looking for gud priced wharfs, try nelrey's @ the assorted buy and sell thread. fyi.

got mine from him. his shop is near aurora. nelrey, bigyna mo ko comm ha . . . just kidin ;D

where specifically in raon can you buy those 12 g speaker cables? mahirap bang hanapin? any landmark? i used 14 g lang kc for my surround. thinking of replacing it with 12g.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile on Oct 14, 2003 at 11:42 AM
I used to frequent Raon st. which is littered with electronics and electrical shops that you can just ask one after the other for the wire gauge you need.  There's Deeco that's top of my mind.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: tamulmol on Oct 14, 2003 at 10:09 PM
Deeco, Liongco dami dyan sa Raon...dikit dikit....pero ako lagi sa Liongco para di na mahirap partner din naman ng Deeco yan.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: triplex on Oct 15, 2003 at 10:35 AM
am currently using 14 g for my surrounds, used up around 1o meters. malaki ba ang diff if i use 12 g, nitcable ba and diff ng tunog?,  wh2 bipolar surround nga pala gamit ko.

thanks for the info on were to get these 12g, will go to raon sa weekend. ;D ;
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: james16 on Oct 15, 2003 at 11:11 AM
may i ask which store sells wharfdale wh2 and how much?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: triplex on Oct 15, 2003 at 11:26 AM
may i ask which store sells wharfdale wh2 and how much?

sir sent u a pm.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 15, 2003 at 11:42 AM
Triplex,

For surround ok na gauge 14 mo.. important yun 3 front speaker mo kung ano gamit mo front left and right same should be with your center.. ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: triplex on Oct 15, 2003 at 12:30 PM
thanks hans, at least makatipid ako. also used the same 14g wires for my fronts.  btw, biwired my 8.1s. 14g for the Low Freq. and 16g for the High Freq. yun center ko 14g din ginamit ko.

still need to break in. .. . ;D

james, sent you a pm reply.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: james16 on Oct 15, 2003 at 01:07 PM

james, sent you a pm reply.


sent you pm reply  :D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: triplex on Oct 20, 2003 at 11:01 AM
yung wharfs ko, mukhang na break in na, -35 palang volume, lakas na at buong buo na ang tunog.  am surpised with 8.1s, kaya pala awarded sa hi-fi. . .   matagal lang talaga warm up nito, pero its worth the wait. ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jerix on Oct 20, 2003 at 02:01 PM
triplex bro,

in ur experience gaano katagal ang break-in nyang 8.1 mo? one of my options kasi yan eh-- thnks
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: triplex on Oct 20, 2003 at 05:08 PM
almost a month already, watched over 30 titles already . . . marathon  ;D, if am not watching, i just listened to cds/ radio.  

also, made several adjustments , by ear nga  lang, para maximized the sound quality. . . am still looking for the best placement though for my speakers to produce the "sweet spot".

id recommend the 8.1s for those looking for quality and low in budget.  

just my opinion lang po. . .  later plan  to watch 2fast2furious ;D ;D ;D something to look forward to at home aside from my wife and kids. ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: antukin on Oct 21, 2003 at 04:37 PM
Dolby,

8.1 mas maganda vocal compare to 8.2 kung bass syempre meron yun 8.2 but I feel bitin pa rin kaya better have sub to compliment konti lang naman bookshelf na can go low have them before but love the 8.1 than his big brother..


instead of buying stands for the 8.1. mas ok bang mag 8.3 sa fronts and 8.1 surrounds?

salamats.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Oct 21, 2003 at 05:33 PM
instead of buying stands for the 8.1. mas ok bang mag 8.3 sa fronts and 8.1 surrounds?

salamats.

if budget permits, go for the 8.3 as fronts and  8.1 surrounds.   try to also audition crystal since pareho sila ng tunog with diamond series, crystals are much cheaper than  diamonds.  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: losi_phile on Oct 21, 2003 at 05:56 PM
Hi Antukin,

That's my set-up!  Diamond 8.3 as fronts, Diamond Center, and Diamond 8.1 for surrounds with pioneer AVR.  Very nice for me.  But of course, you'll have to listen to them to really appreciate them and decide for yourself.

Hi Jerix,

Already made the decision on what Diamond to buy?  Kung malapit lang tayo ng tirahan, invite kita sa bahay namin para marinig mo sana diamond 8.1 and 8.3 tumunog sa pioneer AVR.  I'm using 8.3 as fronts and 8.1 for surrounds.  Keep on thinking, keep on testing... (ala Dory ng Finding Nemo) ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Oct 21, 2003 at 05:59 PM
triplex,

2F2F DVD has a very good channel separation. SULIT NA SULIT ANG 5.1 SETUP!  Specially if you have sub. ;D

just my opinion lang po. . .  later plan  to watch 2fast2furious ;D ;D ;D something to look forward to at home aside from my wife and kids. ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: cousin skeeter on Oct 22, 2003 at 12:09 PM
question lng peeps. i read somewhere, not sure if it was in this thread, that the 8.1s sound better than the 8.2s. is this true?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Oct 22, 2003 at 12:56 PM
guys how about 8.4s for fronts, without any sub okay na ba pang music or movies?

any comment on 8.4s?

Thanks,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Oct 22, 2003 at 01:18 PM
8.4 for fronts, ok yan.  used to have them.  disposed of it dahil masyadong malakas for a 3m X 3m room.  pang music and movies ok sya kahit alang subs but if you want that extra punch then you should have subs.   ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: johnlen on Oct 22, 2003 at 01:30 PM
I have the 8.4 for fronts. it's true that is great for both music and HT. For Ht however, it is nice to have a sub to take care of the below 35hz frequency (this is the freq range na nararamdaman kesa nadidinig.)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Oct 22, 2003 at 02:45 PM
i've read that 8.4 has a freq resp of 30Hz, Isn't it enough for low freq to be audible on 8.4s?

though the source is wharf's website, they might be bias on that data.

I do have subs but its for PC, it has a frequency response of 30Hz-20KHz, I can manage naman to temporarily hook it up with my setup beacuse I still have no budget for Subs.

Thanks,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: triplex on Oct 22, 2003 at 02:56 PM
ltcool, also used my pc subs (microlab) for my current HT, ok na din  kaysa walang bayo. also saving up for my subs though.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 22, 2003 at 03:06 PM
LTcool,

Actually ok na 8.4 but iba pa rin may SUB especially for Home Theater wider ang soundstage compare to walang sub.. so mas feel mo action..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Oct 22, 2003 at 03:14 PM
LTcool,

Actually ok na 8.4 but iba pa rin may SUB especially for Home Theater wider ang soundstage compare to walang sub.. so mas feel mo action..

mas malaki ang chance na ireklamo ka na ng kapit-bahay mo. D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 22, 2003 at 03:35 PM
Kimpao,

Correct pero di pa naman ako kinakatok ng kapitbahay ko hehehehe..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Oct 22, 2003 at 03:41 PM
Hans,

Kakatok yan panigurado... makikinuod!  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Oct 22, 2003 at 03:41 PM
buti ka pa, ako na reklamo na. pero ok lang. ahehehehehe   ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Oct 22, 2003 at 04:33 PM
okay lang sa min yun, actually I have a neighbor na mahilig mag-videoke even late night na. Ayaw ko lang marinig kasi medyo ngongo na yung speakers nila when they sung, I guess their using compo's, they even play music as early as 7am with their SW on, minsan nga kahit radio AM freq lang ha naka-on pa yung sub. so every sat and sun I played mp3's all-day long para kung may hang over sila sa kaka-videoke nila pag gabi eh hindi sila makatuloig sa umaga hanggang hapon, with my altec sub na set to 3'oclock. Sana hindi rin ako mareklamo, kasi minsan 10pm na, trip ko lang makinig ng music with my sub on, and it's a weekend naman and my sub is set to 10o'clock lang (with refrence 0 volume=7o'clock).

Ops medyo OT, pero i can't help it, so I shared my experience anyway.

Cheers,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Oct 22, 2003 at 04:45 PM
pre, lasing siguro yung karaoke nung kapit-bahay nyo. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Oct 22, 2003 at 05:40 PM
cguro nga pare, kaso even 8 or 9am ganun yung tunog, pag yung batang babae yung kumakanta eh hindi naman. Cguro ako yung lashiinnnggggg, hik, hik, hik

Kampay! kampay!
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Oct 22, 2003 at 05:54 PM
OPs sorry for the OTs, back to topic then,

will the 8.4s suffice the bass i needed for a two point one setup without the point one? (PROLOGIC II DSPs)

or should I get the Zaldek2000?

I prefer Heavy Metal and R&B music.

Thank,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Oct 22, 2003 at 06:07 PM
yup, 8.4s has sufficient bass plus i think you should also consider speaker placement and room acoustics.  diamonds tend to be boomy when placed near room corners.  another thing to be considered is tweaks (bi-wire, sand fill).  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Oct 22, 2003 at 06:16 PM
thanks kimpao for a prompt resp, I havn't audition this to no avail on the shops where I audition the  8.3s and Zaldek Series.

-LtCool-

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Oct 22, 2003 at 06:22 PM
bro, try mo sa listening room megamall about two weeks ago  they have 8.4s on display. sa spectra naman, crystal-40 mayroon demo unit.  actually, i'm using wharfedale crystal-40s right now and i'm satisfied but again it's just me.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 23, 2003 at 07:11 AM
Ltcool,

For the price ok na ok ang 8.4 pre since Rock and Heavy metal ka di ka mapapahiya sa 8.4.. and kimpao is right proper speaker placement parin to get the sound you desire.. kahit anong speaker brand pa.. ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Oct 23, 2003 at 12:31 PM
Thanks guys,

I believe 8.4 is destined to be my purchase after all.

Kasi my other option is to buy 8.1 and Zaldek's 300, for Speaker A and B setup,

Who have tried using both Speaker Set A and B of their receiver simultaneously with wharfs speakers?

Thanks,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jerix on Oct 24, 2003 at 11:30 AM
lt cool,

poging-pogi ako sa zaldek series, malakas daw ang bass nya according to some dealers i talked to. and there are times medyo nasasapawan ang mids. pero i think it sometimes depends on the material u r listening to. if ur a disco man or a rocker swak na swak ang zaldek.

losi_phile,

tagasaan ka ba bro?, baka minsan makadaan ako sa inyo to listen to ur HT setup using 8.3. before i decide m really spending time learning the pros and cons of the materials i get in terms of price and quality.

besides the 8.3 or 8.4 maybe, m also considering the AAVT floorstander from Mel and Anthony. yun nga lang medyo mas mahal ng konti. these speakers can really compete well with imported brands. i got my 15" fiberglass coated sub from them and with its price m overwhelmed with its performance.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Oct 24, 2003 at 04:02 PM
yeah jerix, the zaldek2000 rocks, pero i haven't heard yet the 8.4s, yung 8.3s pa lang na audition ko and i found na yung 8.3 parang kulang sa bass, kailangan pa ng sub pag 8.3s. So eto i'm having second thoughts on 8.4s. I have to audition the 8.4s muna.

Cheers,
-LtCool-

 
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: losi_phile on Oct 24, 2003 at 05:17 PM
Jerix,

Sa L4B8 Cliff Drive St. Ridge Mont Exec. Village, Brgy. San Isidro Taytay Rizal right after Valley Golf.  Papasok sa Mitsubishi Motors (PAMCOR) ang way papunta sa village namin.  Kung makapunta ka lang, pakinggan natin pareho yung 8.1 and 8.3.  Mas gusto ko yung 8.3 kasi wala akong magandang subwoofer.  For you I guess ok ang 8.1 kasi maganda ang subwoofer mo.  Hope we can meet.

losi_phile
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Oct 24, 2003 at 05:22 PM
LtCool,

I have an 8.3 and okay naman ang bass for me.  If you're really looking for a punch... kelangan mo nga ng subs.  BTW, what amp was used when you auditioned the 8.3?

Pero panalo talaga 8.4 because the mids and the lows have separate drivers.  ;D

yeah jerix, the zaldek2000 rocks, pero i haven't heard yet the 8.4s, yung 8.3s pa lang na audition ko and i found na yung 8.3 parang kulang sa bass, kailangan pa ng sub pag 8.3s. So eto i'm having second thoughts on 8.4s. I have to audition the 8.4s muna.

Cheers,
-LtCool-

 
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: triplex on Oct 25, 2003 at 11:31 PM
i currently use 8.1s for my fronts, would it be ok if i set them on brackets.  commonly brackets are used for the surrounds. would using the brackets for the fronts have negative effects?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Oct 25, 2003 at 11:51 PM
triplex,

Its ok to mount your fronts... just remember that your fronts should be firing on your listening ear level and sound must go on a straight line.

i currently use 8.1s for my fronts, would it be ok if i set them on brackets.  commonly brackets are used for the surrounds. would using the brackets for the fronts have negative effects?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Oct 26, 2003 at 12:34 AM
triplex,

Its ok to mount your fronts... just remember that your fronts should be firing on your listening ear level and sound must go on a straight line.

slayers' right triplex. but i guess it would be more accurate if you have stands for the 8.1. rule of thumb lang bro is to have the right speaker placement
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: indridcold on Oct 26, 2003 at 03:06 PM
How much na ba 8.4s?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Oct 26, 2003 at 03:22 PM
How much na ba 8.4s?

bro, last time i saw was around 7K plus (mga 7.8 ata yun).  try checking nelrey's thread at assorted buy and sell. mas mababa ang presyo sa kanya
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: tamulmol on Oct 26, 2003 at 07:23 PM
7K lang ba ang 8.4, sayayng sana yan na lang nabili ko instead of 8.3 konti lang pala diff....OOngi..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jerix on Oct 27, 2003 at 07:42 AM
Jerix,

Sa L4B8 Cliff Drive St. Ridge Mont Exec. Village, Brgy. San Isidro Taytay Rizal right after Valley Golf.  Papasok sa Mitsubishi Motors (PAMCOR) ang way papunta sa village namin.  Kung makapunta ka lang, pakinggan natin pareho yung 8.1 and 8.3.  Mas gusto ko yung 8.3 kasi wala akong magandang subwoofer.  For you I guess ok ang 8.1 kasi maganda ang subwoofer mo.  Hope we can meet.

losi_phile

wow! layo mo pala losi_phile-- ;D sa sjdm bulacan kasi ako, medyo malayo-- sayang- ::)

hina-hunting ko kasi ngayon ay speakers with very clear mids. kaya i think the 8.1 maybe great. now i really cant enjoy my sub to its full kasi whenever i pump its power, sa lakas nito yanig buong kabahayan at talo ang mids at highs ng setup ko.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Archangel on Oct 27, 2003 at 08:41 AM
wow! layo mo pala losi_phile-- ;D sa sjdm bulacan kasi ako, medyo malayo-- sayang- ::)

hina-hunting ko kasi ngayon ay speakers with very clear mids. kaya i think the 8.1 maybe great. now i really cant enjoy my sub to its full kasi whenever i pump its power, sa lakas nito yanig buong kabahayan at talo ang mids at highs ng setup ko.

If you want clear mids then the 8.1s are just right for you.  What's more they are also "forward" sounding especially if you have a tv between them.  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Oct 27, 2003 at 09:53 AM
LtCool,

I have an 8.3 and okay naman ang bass for me.  If you're really looking for a punch... kelangan mo nga ng subs.  BTW, what amp was used when you auditioned the 8.3?

Pero panalo talaga 8.4 because the mids and the lows have separate drivers.  ;D

slayer,

They were using yamaha receiver which I will used for my setup though different model yung sa kanila.

8.4 are 3-way speaker so baka nga mas discrete yung bass reproduction nito though I still haven't audition the unit, kasi wala pa time at baka magamit ko CC ko kasi short pa ng kaunti yung cash ko, antayin ko na lang muna yung 14th month o kaya yung next payday, hehehe

Cheers,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Kevlar on Oct 27, 2003 at 01:58 PM
dear all,

Im a newbie here and I juz want to get some advice for yammie 340 (12.9K).  Bago lang daw 2 sabi dun sa isang store (btw 4.5K lang pair ng 8.1 dun).  I'm planning to get the 340 and a pair of 8.1 speakers.  Ok ba ang combi na to or shall I get the 440? Mas mahal yata yung 440.   In addition, for my surrounds and center, shall u suggest the WH2 pack or shall I get the diamond center (and wait muna plus 8.1 for surrounds ulit, later pag may cash ulit)?.  

Tnx in advance.

Kevlar
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Oct 27, 2003 at 04:44 PM
Welcome Kevlar sa pinoydvd.com

Okay yung partner na Yamaha and Wharf 8.1, Actually when I purchased my receiver yan yung speaker na kinabit, panalo yung sound reproduction clear na clear yung mid. pero if you want more bass get a sub.

Cheers,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Oct 27, 2003 at 05:04 PM
dear all,

Im a newbie here and I juz want to get some advice for yammie 340 (12.9K).  Bago lang daw 2 sabi dun sa isang store (btw 4.5K lang pair ng 8.1 dun).  I'm planning to get the 340 and a pair of 8.1 speakers.  Ok ba ang combi na to or shall I get the 440? Mas mahal yata yung 440.   In addition, for my surrounds and center, shall u suggest the WH2 pack or shall I get the diamond center (and wait muna plus 8.1 for surrounds ulit, later pag may cash ulit)?.  

Tnx in advance.

Kevlar

ok na combi yan, yammies and wharfs.  440s are around 15.8K 75 or 85 watts ata.  don't know about 340s but definitely mas mababa yung wattage.

my suggestion is get the 440s, 8.1 and the diamond center, gamit ka muna ng speakers nung mini compo (kung meron kang extra) for surround.  kung may budget ka na, move your 8.1 to surrounds and get the 8.3's or 8.4's for fronts.  again this is just a suggestion.  
 ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: obey on Oct 27, 2003 at 05:46 PM
O.T.  Radio shack (Robinson's Galleria) is selling a certain model of Optimus bookshelf speakers for less than P1K!  It has a 6.5 inch woofer and cabinet & finish is very similar to Wharfedale 8.2.  You may want to check it out.  Regardless of the sound quality, I believe it will still be a good buy.  Siguro, pwede rin itong gamitin as surrounds. :D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mojako on Oct 28, 2003 at 08:36 AM
OT:
obey,
mura nga yun ah.

Yammie and wharfs?  hmmm, tanong mo yung mga naka yammie and wharfs dati dito (paging MDsaint)

Hindi ata sila na satisfied, medyo bitin daw yung power ng yammies nila.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Kevlar on Oct 28, 2003 at 09:29 AM
ok na combi yan, yammies and wharfs.  440s are around 15.8K 75 or 85 watts ata.  don't know about 340s but definitely mas mababa yung wattage.

my suggestion is get the 440s, 8.1 and the diamond center, gamit ka muna ng speakers nung mini compo (kung meron kang extra) for surround.  kung may budget ka na, move your 8.1 to surrounds and get the 8.3's or 8.4's for fronts.  again this is just a suggestion.  
 ;D

Thanks. Thats what I thinkin based sa mga nababasa ko d2 sa thread.  Sakto! may mini-compo ako, pwede ung speakers nya for surrounds for the meantime.  Hopefully, hindi naman masyadong noticeable ung magiging "shortcomings" ng yammie and wharf.  I think I can do the shopping this weekend.   Many thanks guys! More suggestions are highly welcomed.    

Lt Cool:  Yup, im planning to get a 1oKbelow sub.  (after the surround setup na ata.) hehehehe.

More power DVDPinoy!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 28, 2003 at 12:05 PM
Kevlar,

Right path yun punta mo sir.. better start with you front and center yun ang important and stick to the trusted na combo wag na mag-experiment magastos yun hehehe kahit ako 8.1 first speaker ko tapos upgrade to floorstander pag may budget na!!

Enjoy hehehe 3 days wlang pasok
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: triplex on Oct 28, 2003 at 12:10 PM
kevlar, welcom to the forum.

nakaka loko mag decide on what to get. daming threads dyan, just have to read thouroughly on everyone's experience on different combi.

just recently bought my setup also, rxv530, wharf 8.1 for my fronts and wh2 sorround and center. so far am satisfied with my investment.  I suggest you get the 440 and 8.1 and diamond center para may center back ka na. just save up for your surrounds and sub. you just have to wait for the diamonds na ma break-in.  also you need to consider your general purpose of your set-up, HT or Audio.  I just use my setup for watching movies, yammy and wharf is i think at par with other combos pang HT.  

enjoy shopping.  btw, inquire from nelrey's for the wharfs, he has one of the lowest prices around.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Kevlar on Oct 28, 2003 at 02:09 PM
Thanks mga 'igan... Ahehehehe.. 3 days na walang pasok.  Solve na ata ang start ng break-in period. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Oct 28, 2003 at 04:39 PM
I agree with you guys, 440 and 8.1 are matched.

A person who is expert on receiver-speaker matching once said to me that if you have 100W rated speaker you should have at least 80W rated receiver to drive them.

http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/index.html (http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/index.html)

RX-V440
95W X 6 Max at 8ohms
65W X 6 RMS at 8ohms
Dynamic Power/Channel 120W at 6ohms

RX-V340
80W X 5 Max at 8ohms
60W X 5 RMS at 6ohms
Dynamic Power/Channel 75W at 6ohms

Diamond 8.1
20-120W RMS

Cheers,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: dingsky on Oct 28, 2003 at 04:53 PM
hello to all, this is nice to hear, kasi kakabili ko din lang ng ht. 440 at wharfs din gamit ko. salamat sa pinoydvd, bago ako bumili ay nakapili muna ako ng amp and speaker setup na match. more power to pinoydvd!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Oct 29, 2003 at 03:23 PM
Thanks mga 'igan... Ahehehehe.. 3 days na walang pasok.  Solve na ata ang start ng break-in period. ;D ;D ;D

buti sa inyo wala pasok sa min meron.   :(  :(  :(
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Oct 29, 2003 at 03:28 PM
oo nga, long weekend kaso alang mapanood o di kaya ala nang pambili ng dvd :'(
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Kevlar on Oct 29, 2003 at 04:29 PM
hello to all, this is nice to hear, kasi kakabili ko din lang ng ht. 440 at wharfs din gamit ko. salamat sa pinoydvd, bago ako bumili ay nakapili muna ako ng amp and speaker setup na match. more power to pinoydvd!

Does anyone has tried 340 and 8.1 combi? Hows the result?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Oct 29, 2003 at 04:45 PM
40 series of yamaha is just new.  i think no one have ever tried it yet.  going for 340 and 8.1 combi? ::)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Kevlar on Oct 30, 2003 at 10:09 AM
40 series of yamaha is just new.  i think no one have ever tried it yet.  going for 340 and 8.1 combi? ::)

Yup. dats what Im thinlkin, but i hv my reservations bout the low wattage of 340 if she can drive 8.1s. Hw about 8mos old na 620 ok na ba for 11K?  Tnx!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: cousin skeeter on Oct 30, 2003 at 10:15 AM
bro kevlar,

ive not auditioned the yamaha x40 series yet but yammies and diamonds are considered a good match. if youre getting 8.1s, youre gonna need a good subwoofer coz when i heard it for me bitin talaga ang bass ng 8.1. if you'll be using this mostly for hometheater, then i dont think you'll be dissappointed but in music its a  whole different story coz even for my untrained ear, i didnt like the sound or maybe its just me. just to let you know, i sold my yamaha 620 and will be getting a harman this weekend. moral of the story? audition all brands available before deciding. malupet ksi ang sars sa bulsa when it hits you eh, hehehe  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Oct 30, 2003 at 11:22 AM
one thing for sure kevlar, wharfs are power hungry speakers.  i would advise to go for 440 or higher.  the 8.1, bitin talaga ang bass niyan and you'll definitely need subs to compliment for the lack of bass.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: indridcold on Oct 30, 2003 at 11:35 AM
OT: cousin skeeter how much mo nabenta yamaha? ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Oct 30, 2003 at 11:42 AM
And Kevlar if you got enough dough go for a model that has pre-outs, if you find music a little bit too dull, you could connect an integrated amp to feed your speakers. IMHO, in HT no other can match the yammies but for music its a questionable arguments, i think it's more on preferences and a lot of elements to be considered (ie. room acoustics, interconnects).

Cheers,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: cousin skeeter on Oct 30, 2003 at 11:55 AM
indricold,

a little more than i got it from you bro, hehehe. mahal ksi dito sa amin mga HT equipment so it was still relatively cheap compared to others. dinagdagan ko ng konti para mag ka harman. although i was really enjoying it for HT, bitin talaga sya sa music.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Kevlar on Oct 30, 2003 at 11:56 AM
Thanks mga 'igan!  Ya, I was eyeing for the 440.  I'm thinkin also of 1603 coz i'm 50/50 for both music and ht.  Can you guyz comment on these 2 receivers.  Halos same lang price nila eh.  I read that 1603 has more "clean sounding" than yammies.  But I dnt know if it will perform well in ht as yammies.  

... bakasyon na bukas.... those speakers/receivers are waiting for me!!! ...  waaa! ubos pera!!!

Mauubusan,

Kevlar! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: cousin skeeter on Oct 30, 2003 at 12:07 PM
pre kevlar,

if you're a 50/50 music/ht user, the 1603 might be the receiver for you. i auditioned it and i liked it, but for me the harman still had a slight edge. it was connected to mission floorstanders though so am not sure if it would be a match with the 8.1s. dont rush your decision bro, audition mo lahat muna, especially the harman and marantz. at least you should hear them out before making your decision.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Oct 30, 2003 at 12:09 PM
word of advise bro wharfedale/yamaha combi ok yan for ht, wharfedale/denons bright masyado yung tunog niyan (been there and i tried that, one of the reasons kaya ako nag-palit ng set-up), again this is just me.  if your 50/50 on music and ht, go for the denons but these avrs' should be paired with the likes i.e. b&w, polkaudio, missions(?) for speakers
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Kevlar on Oct 30, 2003 at 12:40 PM
Ok. thanks for the tips.  It appears na pamahal nang pamahal setup ko.  I might not get the setup ata 2loy dis wkend.  Hintayin ko na lang ata ung december. hehehe.  :'( :'( :'(
Thanks ulit. Morepower to u guys!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: obey on Nov 02, 2003 at 08:17 PM
Kimpao,

I was just wondering how it came to be that a denon-wharf combi would sound bright?  Btw, I'm also a yammie owner and I've always been hearing negative comments about our AVRs as being bright-sounding, etc. ???  

With the wharf tweeter's limitations (weak highs), are you in effect saying that denon receivers are also bright-sounding contrary to what others are saying that they are warm-sounding?  

I'm only a newbie and hence am no expert.  I'm also not the type that auditions a lot.   Just want to learn more about receivers and other HT stuff.  

Peace! :D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: james16 on Nov 02, 2003 at 10:32 PM
Ok. thanks for the tips.  It appears na pamahal nang pamahal setup ko.  I might not get the setup ata 2loy dis wkend.  Hintayin ko na lang ata ung december. hehehe.  :'( :'( :'(
Thanks ulit. Morepower to u guys!

you may also want to consider hk 2550 for that. You may contact Architectural Audio at 811-6715... They have denon and hk receivers...
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Nov 02, 2003 at 11:47 PM
Kimpao,

I was just wondering how it came to be that a denon-wharf combi would sound bright?  Btw, I'm also a yammie owner and I've always been hearing negative comments about our AVRs as being bright-sounding, etc. ???  

With the wharf tweeter's limitations (weak highs), are you in effect saying that denon receivers are also bright-sounding contrary to what others are saying that they are warm-sounding?  

I'm only a newbie and hence am no expert.  I'm also not the type that auditions a lot.   Just want to learn more about receivers and other HT stuff.  

Peace! :D

no problem bro, one thing for sure very subjective yung hobby,diba (iba-iba yung mga preference natin)? plus the fact that you should have the right avr and speaker combination :) denons are warm sounding and its true but i do believe that they should be paired with the right type or kind of speakers.  definitely everyone would agree here that yammies are great for ht and not for music.

by the way, i sent u pm regarding my setup.   :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Nov 03, 2003 at 07:50 AM
Our WH-2 package consists of two bipolar rear speakers and a centre channel for adding to your existing front stereo speakers to produce a multi-channel system with ideal characteristics for Home Cinema and multi-channel music - without the need to trade-in your beloved stereo speakers.
Bipolar means that both sets of drive units respond in phase (at exactly the same time). With a pair of these mounted on a rear wall, the inner set of drive units provides a direct stereo image, whereas the other set of drive units, fires towards and bounces off the wall. This provides the ambient sound and creates a sense of space and openness around the subject.

A centre channel has to have a smooth even frequency response throughout the vocal section of the sonic spectrum - tuned slightly differently from other speakers, the centre channel will handle most of the dialogue and vocals, making it one of the most important speakers in any package - ours is no exception.

So, before you sacrifice your system completely to multi-channel, ask for an audition of WH-2 and enjoy the best of both worlds.

i just bought a set (center & surrounds) last week and installed it last saturday...

not bad! i like the small unobtrusive size, but its still capable of producing decent sounds. even my wife who was turned off on watching dvd's when i sold our HT to go stereo, has rediscovered her addiction, since we again have a 5.1 set-up  :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: james16 on Nov 03, 2003 at 09:30 AM
i just bought a set (center & surrounds) last week and installed it last saturday...

not bad! i like the small unobtrusive size, but its still capable of producing decent sounds. even my wife who was turned off on watching dvd's when i sold our HT to go stereo, has rediscovered her addiction, since we again have a 5.1 set-up  :)

congrats on your new babies and enjoy.... ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Kevlar on Nov 03, 2003 at 09:38 AM
you may also want to consider hk 2550 for that. You may contact Architectural Audio at 811-6715... They have denon and hk receivers...

James16,

Have you tried already HK2550+diamonds? ok ba yung combination.  Juz wondring the fact that 2550 has 40W only, can it drive these  power hungry speakers?  (e.i. 8.1 has 20-120W rating)

Hehehe.  Salamat po!

Akolangnaman - Kevlar
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Nov 03, 2003 at 09:54 AM
James16,

Have you tried already HK2550+diamonds? ok ba yung combination.  Juz wondring the fact that 2550 has 40W only, can it drive these  power hungry speakers?  (e.i. 8.1 has 20-120W rating)

Hehehe.  Salamat po!

Akolangnaman - Kevlar

am using a 2550 with even more power hungry speakers than the diamonds, and can attest that it can carry the load  :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Nov 03, 2003 at 09:56 AM
congrats on your new babies and enjoy.... ;D

thanks! am now saving up for another set of fronts - kakapagod mag switch ng speakers from amp to receiver - tsaka gusto ko umiwas sa murphy's law: baka magdikit yung wires habang naka bukas pala ampli - PZZZZTTTTT!!! (goodbye amp) or baka baliktad kabit sa speakers RRRIIIIPPPP!!! (goodbye speakers)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: indridcold on Nov 03, 2003 at 10:16 AM
di pagpapawisan HK sa diamonds bro.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Kevlar on Nov 03, 2003 at 10:16 AM
Thanks to you guys....  can I ask ng price range ng HK2550?  Lupeet ata sa budget... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Nov 03, 2003 at 10:36 AM
Last price i know was 19.5k for the HK2550.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: james16 on Nov 03, 2003 at 10:41 AM
thanks! am now saving up for another set of fronts - kakapagod mag switch ng speakers from amp to receiver - tsaka gusto ko umiwas sa murphy's law: baka magdikit yung wires habang naka bukas pala ampli - PZZZZTTTTT!!! (goodbye amp) or baka baliktad kabit sa speakers RRRIIIIPPPP!!! (goodbye speakers)

well, goodluck sa pag-iipon para sa fronts...  ;D

wag ka lang magmadali at kung may chance ka, audition them... try to audition sa archi audio or spectra since meron na sila hk2550. very important din ang speaker/receiver/cable matching...
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: james16 on Nov 03, 2003 at 10:42 AM
Thanks to you guys....  can I ask ng price range ng HK2550?  Lupeet ata sa budget... ;D ;D ;D

try to call architectural audio at 811-6715, look for nico or epoy... they have hk and denon recievers there...
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Nov 03, 2003 at 11:13 AM
Thanks to you guys....  can I ask ng price range ng HK2550?  Lupeet ata sa budget... ;D ;D ;D

bro try nelrey, he's selling 2550 at 18.6 or 18.8K :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: antukin on Nov 03, 2003 at 01:07 PM
Hi Antukin,

That's my set-up!  Diamond 8.3 as fronts, Diamond Center, and Diamond 8.1 for surrounds with pioneer AVR.  Very nice for me.  But of course, you'll have to listen to them to really appreciate them and decide for yourself.

if budget permits, go for the 8.3 as fronts and  8.1 surrounds.  try to also audition crystal since pareho sila ng tunog with diamond series, crystals are much cheaper than  diamonds.  


maraming salamats kimpao and losi-phile! i'll be saving for this setup with 440 and an 8" sub. maliit lang ang room e. 2.5mx3m

sana ngayong pasko na.  8)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Nov 03, 2003 at 01:53 PM
buti sa inyo wala pasok sa min meron.   :(  :(  :(
-LtCool-

bro, check-out the assorted buy and sell section. some is selling 8.4s at 6.6k, 1 month palang. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 03, 2003 at 06:04 PM
Kevlar,

40 watts lang Hk2550 don't worry high current naman sya problemahin mo sir yun electric bill mo hehehehe HK and Wharf?? best match sir..  ;D ;D di mabibitin ang Wharf sa power just like sir indridcold, di papawisan hk  ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Nov 04, 2003 at 06:04 AM
Thanks to you guys....  can I ask ng price range ng HK2550?  Lupeet ata sa budget... ;D ;D ;D

Pare try Spectra at Park Square 1 in Makati, HK2550 is around 17K Cash, sayang nga lang nung pumunta ako dun tech person is nowhere in sight so hindi ko na-audition, anyway I bought a yammy 640 at Ambassador tuloy. Wharfs really sing with yammies.

Cheers,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Nov 04, 2003 at 06:08 AM
bro, check-out the assorted buy and sell section. some is selling 8.4s at 6.6k, 1 month palang. ;D ;D ;D


thanks bro, I'll check it out.

Kampay,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: obey on Nov 04, 2003 at 09:07 AM
Kimpao,

Thanks for the reply.  Replied to your pm.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: indridcold on Nov 04, 2003 at 11:57 AM
look for nino sa spectra bro.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: fierari on Nov 04, 2003 at 01:02 PM


ok ba yung nakita kosa greenbelt? yung sa tapat ng true value? wharfs na center at surround 3.7k? bale 3 piraso.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Kevlar on Nov 04, 2003 at 01:05 PM
Hi mga sir!

Any suggestions about 440 and 8.4 fronts, diamond center and 8.1 surrounds?

I'm planning for 8.4 as my fronts, hanep sa porma eh.  Juz wondring for match receivers.

Thanks,

Kevlar
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Nov 04, 2003 at 01:06 PM


ok ba yung nakita kosa greenbelt? yung sa tapat ng true value? wharfs na center at surround 3.7k? bale 3 piraso.

am currently using them for my ht wala ako masabi - patok for the price
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Nov 04, 2003 at 01:17 PM
Hi mga sir!

Any suggestions about 440 and 8.4 fronts, diamond center and 8.1 surrounds?

I'm planning for 8.4 as my fronts, hanep sa porma eh.  Juz wondring for match receivers.

Thanks,

Kevlar


try to audition it first but what i can say is match yan pre! ;D no doubt about it.

swak yan bro sa 440.  try to consider also speaker placement if you're going to get it na, since wharfs tend to  be boomy when placed near room corners plus the fact na 8.4 yung balak mo for fronts.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Nov 04, 2003 at 01:29 PM
obey sent u pm  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: obey on Nov 04, 2003 at 01:40 PM
Kimpao, replied to your PM :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Kevlar on Nov 04, 2003 at 01:56 PM
Kimpao,

Thanks a lot.  

Kevlar
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: p.dividdy2 on Nov 05, 2003 at 02:29 PM
kevlar,

congrats sa bili mo! ehehe
sayang naunahan mo ako sa 8.4s..

review naman dyan ng purchases..  

and a general q...di ba maganda ang 8.2
bakit puro 8.1 lang ang nababanggit dito..?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: indridcold on Nov 05, 2003 at 02:53 PM
kevlar pa sama na rin sa review mo bass output ng 8.4. thaks.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: GC on Nov 05, 2003 at 03:30 PM
I'm just curious though, how would you compare the cheap China made Wharfedales to locally made Dai-ichi speakers especially in terms of sound quality. thanks!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Nov 05, 2003 at 07:46 PM
I'm just curious though, how would you compare the cheap China made Wharfedales to locally made Dai-ichi speakers especially in terms of sound quality. thanks!

For Bass, Daichi.

Mids, Wharfs definitely.

Just my cent.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: p.dividdy2 on Nov 05, 2003 at 11:39 PM
yep the dai-ichi with the silver thing on the woofer has really big bass for a bookshelf speaker..parang may sub.. although it lacks clarity

wharfes generally for me is "magitna".. ma mid nga siya..

i just want to know how the 8.4  and 8.2 sounds.. eh ive tried the 8.1 and 8.3 na kasi..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ArnieSwarzie on Nov 06, 2003 at 10:33 AM
kevlar,

and a general q...di ba maganda ang 8.2
bakit puro 8.1 lang ang nababanggit dito..?

The 8.1 so far excelled from midrange to high freq, and won the competition in the price range, than 8.2. Its size and price add more value. I am just afraid that if you compare 8.1 and 8.2, 8.1 may still be better, considering that low frequency is now delegated to subwoofer.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Kevlar on Nov 06, 2003 at 10:44 AM
kevlar,

congrats sa bili mo! ehehe
sayang naunahan mo ako sa 8.4s..

review naman dyan ng purchases..  

and a general q...di ba maganda ang 8.2
bakit puro 8.1 lang ang nababanggit dito..?
kevlar pa sama na rin sa review mo bass output ng 8.4. thaks.


Thanks mga tsong...

Anyways, I borrowed 1603 from a friend and tested the 8.4 , stereo mode.  Hanep... ala akong masabi... despite the fact that hindi pa nga to nabibreak-in.... im satisfied with the highs, mids and bass.  Mas prominent talaga ung mids, pero it was nice, it has very clear sounding... Ung acoustic guitar tsaka percussions, kala ko nasa tabi ko... kinatok ako ng kapitbahay ko, naku, kala ko patay ??? ??? nakidistorbo na ata.... Un pala usisero!  makikijoin din! ganda daw ng tunog.... hahahahaha!  ;D ;D ;D.  Well, its just me.  Hv to try it with other receivers pa.

Kevlar
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Kevlar on Nov 06, 2003 at 10:46 AM
Audiophile,

Congrats on your new 8.2's. As I told you, d ba alang sabit? the best c zach mag-alaga ng gamit!

Cheers - Kevlar
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Nov 06, 2003 at 11:19 AM


Thanks mga tsong...

Anyways, I borrowed 1603 from a friend and tested the 8.4 , stereo mode.  Hanep... ala akong masabi... despite the fact that hindi pa nga to nabibreak-in.... im satisfied with the highs, mids and bass.  Mas prominent talaga ung mids, pero it was nice, it has very clear sounding... Ung acoustic guitar tsaka percussions, kala ko nasa tabi ko... kinatok ako ng kapitbahay ko, naku, kala ko patay ??? ??? nakidistorbo na ata.... Un pala usisero!  makikijoin din! ganda daw ng tunog.... hahahahaha!  ;D ;D ;D.  Well, its just me.  Hv to try it with other receivers pa.

Kevlar

told you bro, swak yan 8.4 sa yammies.  now does it make you wonder if you still need subs? ;D  congrat pre sa purchase mo, great buy yan! wait til it's broken in before you decide on buying subs (just an advise).  try mo nga pala mag bi-wire for the 8.4s and center. :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Kevlar on Nov 06, 2003 at 01:16 PM
told you bro, swak yan 8.4 sa yammies.  now does it make you wonder if you still need subs? ;D  congrat pre sa purchase mo, great buy yan! wait til it's broken in before you decide on buying subs (just an advise).  try mo nga pala mag bi-wire for the 8.4s and center. :)

Thanks.  I'll try 440 and see what these babies can do.

Kevlar
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ADM202E on Nov 06, 2003 at 02:42 PM
Mga dudes, magkano na ba ang current selling price ng 8.1/2/3/4? Thanks in advance!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Nov 06, 2003 at 02:47 PM
try checking nelrey's thread at assorted buy and sell section :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: GC on Nov 06, 2003 at 03:36 PM

For Bass, Daichi.

Mids, Wharfs definitely.

Just my cent.

yep the dai-ichi with the silver thing on the woofer has really big bass for a bookshelf speaker..parang may sub.. although it lacks clarity

wharfes generally for me is "magitna".. ma mid nga siya..

i just want to know how the 8.4  and 8.2 sounds.. eh ive tried the 8.1 and 8.3 na kasi..

Thanks! I'm seeing a lot of wharfes in stores these days. I'm hoping to audition them soon and the missions as well.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Kevlar on Nov 07, 2003 at 09:04 AM
The 8.1 so far excelled from midrange to high freq, and won the competition in the price range, than 8.2. Its size and price add more value. I am just afraid that if you compare 8.1 and 8.2, 8.1 may still be better, considering that low frequency is now delegated to subwoofer.

Yeah, thats true.  I guess.  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Kevlar on Nov 07, 2003 at 09:33 AM
I have the 8.4 for fronts. it's true that is great for both music and HT. For Ht however, it is nice to have a sub to take care of the below 35hz frequency (this is the freq range na nararamdaman kesa nadidinig.)

Hi Johnlen,

What receiver are you using for your 8.4s? I'm planning to get a match receiver for my 8.4 within the range of 13K-16K.  Thanks in advance.

-Kevlar-
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: johnlen on Nov 07, 2003 at 09:51 AM
Hi Johnlen,

What receiver are you using for your 8.4s? I'm planning to get a match receiver for my 8.4 within the range of 13K-16K.  Thanks in advance.

-Kevlar-

Hi Kevlar,

I am using the legendary Sony STR-DB930 (search the net to see what I mean), this receiver is trully rated at 100w RMS per channel (5.1 nga lang at hindi 6.1).

I've seen this unit still available at one of the stores in Park Square. You may want to audition for a different perspective.

Right now I am driving my fronts (8.4) with a Yamaha MX-1 power amp using the Sony receiver as preamp/processor.

You are welcome if you would want to hear my setup. just let me know.  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Kevlar on Nov 07, 2003 at 10:07 AM
Hi Kevlar,

I am using the legendary Sony STR-DB930 (search the net to see what I mean), this receiver is trully rated at 100w RMS per channel (5.1 nga lang at hindi 6.1).

I've seen this unit still available at one of the stores in Park Square. You may want to audition for a different perspective.

Right now I am driving my fronts (8.4) with a Yamaha MX-1 power amp using the Sony receiver as preamp/processor.

You are welcome if you would want to hear my setup. just let me know.  

Thanks for the reply sir and for the willingness to share your setup to starters like me!

Have you used denon 1603 to your 8.4's? Can you make a review comparing the output of 1603 and Sony STR-DB930 with respect to 8.4.  

More power!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: johnlen on Nov 07, 2003 at 10:19 AM
Thanks for the reply sir and for the willingness to share your setup to starters like me!

Have you used denon 1603 to your 8.4's? Can you make a review comparing the output of 1603 and Sony STR-DB930 with respect to 8.4.  

More power!

Kevlar,

Sorry pal, I have not heard the Denon 1603, and I only have the 8.4's for around 4 months only. I used to have KEF Q15.2 as my fronts until one speaker got busted one day : (  yung natira ginawa ko na lang center.

Were are you from? The invitation still stands, I am sure I will get to answer most of your questions.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Kevlar on Nov 07, 2003 at 12:30 PM
Makati.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Kevlar on Nov 07, 2003 at 12:34 PM
Johnlen,

Here's my cp#0918-929-1838.  Hope we can meet.  Many thanks.

Kevlar
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 07, 2003 at 12:49 PM
Kevlar,

Congrats on your new speaker pre.. HK ang best match for your wharf!!! 100% sure ako pre. 8)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Kevlar on Nov 07, 2003 at 01:09 PM
Hans,

Thanks.  How I wish to go for HK2550, medyo 16K lang budget ko as of today.  Sigh, wait na lang ng konti sa Dec. 3k lang idadagdag, HK na! db? hehehe    ;D ;D ;D


Kevlar
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 07, 2003 at 03:29 PM
Kevlar,

Konting tiis lang pre since christmas bonus is around the corner hehehe.. HK na or check out sa assorted buy and sell baka meron pre-owned sayang din..  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Kevlar on Nov 07, 2003 at 05:31 PM
Kevlar,

Konting tiis lang pre since christmas bonus is around the corner hehehe.. HK na or check out sa assorted buy and sell baka meron pre-owned sayang din..  ;D

Oongi!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Nov 07, 2003 at 07:22 PM
I opted to buy the HK2550 paired with Wharfs din sana kaso la yung tech person sa Spectra that day when I bought my yammy. hehehe, bili na lang ako pag tama ko sa lotto, para hiwalay set-up for music and HT.

Cheers,
LtCool-
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 08, 2003 at 08:26 AM
LTcool,

Mas ok yan path mo sir!!!  iba pa rin ang serapate audio setup magastos lang  ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Nov 10, 2003 at 06:51 AM
Hans,
Your ryt bro, Okay yung separate kaso yung drawback si misis baka ipukpok sa kin yung amp o kaya ibigti ako sa speaker wires, hehehe

Cheers,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Nov 10, 2003 at 01:03 PM
Pre,

Decided ka na on what monitors are you getting?   ;)

Hans,
Your ryt bro, Okay yung separate kaso yung drawback si misis baka ipukpok sa kin yung amp o kaya ibigti ako sa speaker wires, hehehe

Cheers,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 10, 2003 at 06:53 PM
LTcool,

Decision time na sir!! whats gonna be!!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Nov 11, 2003 at 01:13 AM
I just heard out-of-the-box 8.4 at spectra  this afternoon and it sounded good, how much more if it was fully broken-in?

I heard also the KEF Q1 at sound dimension, i think this speaker can sing. btw they pair it with RX-V630. "B&W would be left behind by the sound of it" the guy at the store exclaimed.

Cheers,
-LtCool-

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Nov 11, 2003 at 11:04 AM
Pre,

Pangit ang wharfs out of the box... seriously, nagandahan ka? ahehehe... wait till you hear those after 3 mos (break-in period). Di halos nagkakalayo sa high end speakers... adjust lang ng konti sa tones tsaka paired dapat sa HK siyempre!!  ;D

I just heard out-of-the-box 8.4 at spectra  this afternoon and it sounded good, how much more if it was fully broken-in?

I heard also the KEF Q1 at sound dimension, i think this speaker can sing. btw they pair it with RX-V630. "B&W would be left behind by the sound of it" the guy at the store exclaimed.

Cheers,
-LtCool-


Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpOy on Nov 11, 2003 at 01:44 PM
im contemplating the diamonds as my fronts
which is better 8.3 or 8.4?

and also contemplating on dai ichi cheaper alternative.

dai-ichi vs diamonds?
who will win?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Nov 11, 2003 at 02:01 PM
im contemplating the diamonds as my fronts
which is better 8.3 or 8.4?

and also contemplating on dai ichi cheaper alternative.

dai-ichi vs diamonds?
who will win?

never tried dai-ichis' yet but i've heard that bass is ok.

wharfs, go for the 8.4s
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Nov 11, 2003 at 02:04 PM
Pre,

Pangit ang wharfs out of the box... seriously, nagandahan ka? ahehehe... wait till you hear those after 3 mos (break-in period). Di halos nagkakalayo sa high end speakers... adjust lang ng konti sa tones tsaka paired dapat sa HK siyempre!!  ;D

palibhasa naka-rinig kasi ng B4 itong si slayer ;D ;D ;D
balita ko bili ka daw next month ng b4. ahehehehe
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Nov 11, 2003 at 02:15 PM
Dude,

Suggest you audition first... experiencing "good sound" can be different to different persons.

8.3 or 8.4? Depends on the size on where will you put these goodies.

im contemplating the diamonds as my fronts
which is better 8.3 or 8.4?

and also contemplating on dai ichi cheaper alternative.

dai-ichi vs diamonds?
who will win?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: p.dividdy2 on Nov 11, 2003 at 02:16 PM
i've auditioned both as ive mentioned before except for the 8.4s..

there was one dtx/us audio unit that impressed me ..6.12 ata yung model number niya but as far as
i can remember... mas ma bass siya although the mids are not that prominent if you dont want the prominent mid quality of the wharfes.. i think get this na lang para cheaper.. basta floorstander siya na mas mahal na model than the 5.10..tama ba yun mga model numbers ko?.. im too lazy to find my own post before ehehe ;D

for me kasi maganda yung fronts mo may bass din
mas buo ang sound kahit may sub ka..

anyway.. the other dai-ichi model was kinda harsh or ma treble.. for my taste

the wharfes in general are ma mid nga as we have mentioned before.. but clearer/ cleaner sound..although
mahina ang bass nito.. dont know lang about 8.4s..

i have a valdus 300 lying around here and tried it as my fronts.. dahil wharfedale sya weak bass at ma mid..
kahit may sub ako parang hollow sa akin yung tunog..
parang may kulang..so as i said i think get fronts that
can produce decent bass din..

audition it for yourself and post your observations here

 
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Nov 11, 2003 at 02:16 PM
Idol!!

Parinig ng Scott mo ha!! Ano B4 ka na? ahehehe...

Di pa... pagisipan ko pa route ko.  So far, i'm very much happy with my wharf/hk combo.  ;D

palibhasa naka-rinig kasi ng B4 itong si slayer ;D ;D ;D
balita ko bili ka daw next month ng b4. ahehehehe
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Nov 11, 2003 at 02:53 PM
Idol!!

Parinig ng Scott mo ha!! Ano B4 ka na? ahehehe...

Di pa... pagisipan ko pa route ko.  So far, i'm very much happy with my wharf/hk combo.  ;D

Ah, Opus Series siguro yung balak mo, no! yung black.  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: p.dividdy2 on Nov 12, 2003 at 04:31 AM
mali mali nga ang model number ko ahahah baliw!! ??? :P ;D

yun sinasabi kong ok na dtx..7.6t and model number tapos yung harsh na sabi ko dtx-9.5t  

yun lang..  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 12, 2003 at 02:16 PM
Kimpao,

Sir confirm na meet tayo bukas sa spectra text me the time na lang... audition natin ulit para sigurado tapos paired natin sa B4 or any speaker you like.. hehhehe

Slayer,

Idol kimpao ko na rin hehehe ganda ng scott nya.. ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Nov 12, 2003 at 02:31 PM
Kimpao,

Sir confirm na meet tayo bukas sa spectra text me the time na lang... audition natin ulit para sigurado tapos paired natin sa B4 or any speaker you like.. hehhehe

Slayer,

Idol kimpao ko na rin hehehe ganda ng scott nya.. ;D

shhhhh!!! subok muna tayo b2 tapos b4.  tapos lipat tayo ng thread dahil wharfs yung thread na ito, masisita tayo nyan. aheheheheheh   ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 12, 2003 at 02:33 PM
Idol kimpao,

Sori po kala ko kasi dito yun thread na yun na-excite ako  :D sina slayer and sebman may date din bukas pre gusto nila maki-double date sa atin.. ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Nov 12, 2003 at 02:37 PM
ahahahahaha! ;D

ok lang! mas marami mas masaya ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

hans guru ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 12, 2003 at 02:40 PM
Idol kimpao,

Kailangan natin ng adviser na tulad nila hehehhee..so that were sure of the right combo.. 8) 8)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpOy on Nov 15, 2003 at 12:33 PM
wharfedale 8.4 on Denon1404
is it a good match?

so far eto nakuha kong info sa thread
Yammy+Wharfs=ok for movies
HK+ Wharfs= nice overall, warm, full

how about Denon, Kenwood, Onkyo EntryLevels
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ADM202E on Nov 18, 2003 at 05:13 PM
Guys check this out: Bought my upgrade 8.1 for 4k and 8c for 3.2k, better deal than slightly used units isnt? These came from the sealed box. Best deal?????   :D

Im planning to sell my WH2 center and Grundig 120w 360 degrees speakers.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: cousin skeeter on Nov 18, 2003 at 05:36 PM
peeps,

tanong lang po. how much do the 8.1s weigh? plan to use them as surrounds, wall mounted. wla sa specs sa site ang weight, dimensions lang. anyone with 8.1s and a weighing scale?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Nov 18, 2003 at 05:49 PM
peeps,

tanong lang po. how much do the 8.1s weigh? plan to use them as surrounds, wall mounted. wla sa specs sa site ang weight, dimensions lang. anyone with 8.1s and a weighing scale?  ;D ;D ;D

bro, around 2 to 3 kilos yung bigat niyan.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Nov 19, 2003 at 05:30 PM
cousin,

No problem with wall mounting.  I have a wall mounted 8.1s.

peeps,

tanong lang po. how much do the 8.1s weigh? plan to use them as surrounds, wall mounted. wla sa specs sa site ang weight, dimensions lang. anyone with 8.1s and a weighing scale?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: cousin skeeter on Nov 19, 2003 at 05:39 PM
kimpao,

thanks bro. actually tried emailing the wharfedale site and the did reply. 4.2 kilos per speaker daw :)

slayer,

what did u use for the wall mount pre? did u have to screw into the speaker? (ugh!)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Nov 19, 2003 at 05:57 PM
kimpao,

thanks bro. actually tried emailing the wharfedale site and the did reply. 4.2 kilos per speaker daw :)

slayer,

what did u use for the wall mount pre? did u have to screw into the speaker? (ugh!)

cousin skeeter,

i used perfect view for wall mounts.  bought it at handyman for 1.4k  too bad i really have to drill holes on the bracket for the woodscrews.  yung maiksi lang na wood screws just to hold the speakers since naka-angle yun. mahirap na, baka may ma-bagsakan (mas malaki ang gastos, funeraria ka-agad ang tuloy nun, ahehehehe)  :-X

i would'nt be doing it if it were more expensive speakers
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: triplex on Nov 19, 2003 at 10:14 PM
kimpao, also plan to mount my 8.1s also, yung 1.4k na mounts from handyman, pair na ba? saw one, mga 1.5k isang piraso palang.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Nov 20, 2003 at 11:09 AM
kimpao, also plan to mount my 8.1s also, yung 1.4k na mounts from handyman, pair na ba? saw one, mga 1.5k isang piraso palang.

sir, 1 pair na yun
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Nov 20, 2003 at 11:17 AM
sir, 1 pair na yun

sir, 1 pc lang nilalabas nila for display pero when you get it 1 pair na.  you just have to pick dun sa stocks nila kung complete yung nasa box.  actually, price range in handyman is from 1.1k to 1.6k for all models.  :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: nowhearthis on Nov 20, 2003 at 04:08 PM
Has anyone here tried pairing the 8.3's with an Onkyo 501? How about with a NAD 742?

Planning to get an entry level  AV receiver for HT (60%) /audio (40%) use and I've narrowed down my list to:

1. Onkyo TX SR501
2. HK 2550
3. NAD 742

Speakers: Wharfedale Diamond 8.3 / 8 center / DFS 18 surrounds.
Sub: Hsu Research VTF-2

Thanks in advance for the inputs.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Nov 20, 2003 at 04:28 PM
cousin,

Same as Kimpao... i'm using Perfect View.  Its clip type so you won't have to drill anything to you speakers.  Just make sure you screw the mount securely to the wall.

slayer,

what did u use for the wall mount pre? did u have to screw into the speaker? (ugh!)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Garp on Nov 20, 2003 at 04:29 PM
Has anyone here tried pairing the 8.3's with an Onkyo 501? How about with a NAD 742?

Planning to get an entry level  AV receiver for HT (60%) /audio (40%) use and I've narrowed down my list to:

1. Onkyo TX SR501
2. HK 2550
3. NAD 742

Speakers: Wharfedale Diamond 8.3 / 8 center / DFS 18 surrounds.
Sub: Hsu Research VTF-2

Thanks in advance for the inputs.

I'd go for 8.1 diamond since you already have a nice sub to go with it. Consensus is 8.1 has best midrange in the series.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: nowhearthis on Nov 20, 2003 at 05:35 PM
I've actually thought of that but then I have to buy a good pair of speaker stands. As a result, I'll be spending more. Also, I've read somewhere that these Diamond floorstanders can be sand-filled. How true is this?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 21, 2003 at 10:57 AM
nowhearthis,

8.3 can be sand filling not sure with 8.4 as for bookshelf 8.1 and 8.2 di pwede sir..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpOy on Nov 22, 2003 at 04:19 PM
HK2550+Wharfs

ano ok na budget subwoofer dito?
how much?

thanks
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: tolits on Nov 22, 2003 at 07:52 PM
mga brod yun bang D8"s wharf are 6T priced?  On sale na yan ngayon ah.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: tolits on Nov 22, 2003 at 07:54 PM
mga brod yun bang D8"s wharf are 6T priced?  On sale na yan ngayon ah.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: tolits on Nov 22, 2003 at 07:55 PM
mga brod yun bang D8"s wharf are 6T priced?  On sale na yan ngayon ah.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Nov 22, 2003 at 07:59 PM
mga brod yun bang D8"s wharf are 6T priced?  On sale na yan ngayon ah.

Anong model?

8.3 or 8.4?

For your reference (approximate price only):

8.1 - P4650
8.2 - P5900
8.3 - P6750
8.4 - P8350
center - P3800
DFS - P4300

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Nov 23, 2003 at 08:38 AM
tolits,

anong model ng diamond?

i'm planning to buy 8.4s, is this the one priced at 6T? where?

Thanks,
-LtCool-

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Nov 24, 2003 at 10:29 AM
Kimp0y,

I paired by Wharfs with DQ-12.  So far happy naman ako.  BTW, are the same kimpoy from tsikot?

HK2550+Wharfs

ano ok na budget subwoofer dito?
how much?

thanks
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpOy on Nov 24, 2003 at 10:33 AM
slayer,
one and the same, akala ko naman matagal mo ng alam
dahil sinasagot mo HT thread ko dun he..he
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Nov 24, 2003 at 03:22 PM
 ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: nebula on Nov 28, 2003 at 08:08 AM
I have wharf 8.4s. Mula na-uwi ko ang dalawa (from nelrey - ad) hindi ko na marinig ang active subwoofer ko. tama kaya ang set-up ko? hindi ko alam kung saan galing ang "boom" subwoofer or floorstanders. does it make a big difference for you guys if you can really hear the subwoofer? may avr is a hk, by the way.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Archangel on Nov 28, 2003 at 11:26 AM
I would think that that would indicate na seamless yung bass reproduction ng setup niyo.   I was under the impression that this was a good thing.  HT gurus can better enlighten you on this.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 28, 2003 at 12:14 PM
Nebula,

Sir try mo adjust yun phase switch ng sub mo sir kung meron baka nagca-cancel out sila ng 8.4 mo..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Nov 28, 2003 at 01:29 PM
Dude,

You can set your HKs KFE settings kung LFE+FL/FR o LFE lang.  Tweak your settings.

I have wharf 8.4s. Mula na-uwi ko ang dalawa (from nelrey - ad) hindi ko na marinig ang active subwoofer ko. tama kaya ang set-up ko? hindi ko alam kung saan galing ang "boom" subwoofer or floorstanders. does it make a big difference for you guys if you can really hear the subwoofer? may avr is a hk, by the way.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: nebula on Nov 28, 2003 at 02:52 PM
subukan ko! thanks! padagdag ... (for doctors out der) totoo ba masama ang sobrang subwoofer effect sa heart beat ng mga bata?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jerix on Nov 28, 2003 at 03:25 PM
mga bros,

hows the mids and highs of the 8.4? thnx ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Dec 02, 2003 at 07:01 PM
pareng jerix, ayos na ayos yung mid ng 8.4 and the highs its aOK, heard it at spectra, I'm going for the 8.4s, hindi pa break-in yung speaker when i audition it.

I already ordered kay Nelrey sana mapaaga ng dating yung speakers, i wanna hook it up right away, bili na nga ako kaagad ng wires at banana plugs, parang panic buying, hehehe.

Cheers,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: akyatbundok on Dec 02, 2003 at 08:04 PM
pssst LtCool, congrats pre!!  galing niyan wharfedale diamond, napakaganda ng mids!!  heard my friend's 8.1 lufet ng sound, very deserving of Best Buy award from what-hifi and sound & vision.  yan ang tinatawag na "punching beyond its weight", parang si pacquiao!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Narayan on Dec 02, 2003 at 08:29 PM
congrats LtCool. natagpuan mo na rin ang matagal mo ng  hinahanap.... nasa tabi mo lang pala ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Dec 02, 2003 at 09:16 PM
congrats LtCool, sulit din yan!  hintay ka lang pag na break-in yan 8)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Dec 03, 2003 at 07:55 AM
Congrats LtCool! Fellow Wharfedale owner!  ;D

Congrats din ata hindi ka nagpunta kina akyat kundi nahawaan ka ng sars! Ahehehe...  ;D

Break-in period usually last around 3 mos on regular use (6 hours a day).
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jerix on Dec 03, 2003 at 08:03 AM
pareng jerix, ayos na ayos yung mid ng 8.4 and the highs its aOK, heard it at spectra, I'm going for the 8.4s, hindi pa break-in yung speaker when i audition it.

I already ordered kay Nelrey sana mapaaga ng dating yung speakers, i wanna hook it up right away, bili na nga ako kaagad ng wires at banana plugs, parang panic buying, hehehe.

Cheers,
-LtCool-

bro LtCool,

thnx for the info ---  ;D ill just be waiting for ur review on the performance of the 8.4 here--- hehehe!

How about the zaldek 2000 na audition mo na rin ba bro?  kasi medyo kursunada ko talaga pagkapogi nito-- ;Dthnx
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Dec 03, 2003 at 10:08 AM
jerix,

If you like rock/pop/r&b and other bassy music... ok ang zaldek.  Personally i don't like how it looks.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: cousin skeeter on Dec 03, 2003 at 10:20 AM
hello!

anyone selling their diamond 8.1s (black)? am scouting for surround speakers. thanks!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Archangel on Dec 04, 2003 at 06:49 AM
Cousin skeeter,

Sent you a PM.

Archangel
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: cousin skeeter on Dec 04, 2003 at 10:00 AM
pre archangel,

sent back pm. :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Dec 04, 2003 at 07:03 PM
Thanks Akyat, Narayan, Kimpao, [slayer], jerix and all af you guys out there at pinoydvd.

[slayer], actually i been in akyat's den nung hook-up nila yung B4, though hindi pa broken-in yung B4 ni Hans ganda na ng tunog but i have 2nd thoughts if it would sound better on bright amps like yammies so i decided na lang to settle on wharf, at saka sa budget kasi lagot tayo kay misis baka makita yung receipt. siguro yung S2 na lang later for separate audio setup, iipunin ko muna allowance ko, hehehe.

jerix, yung zaldek poging-pogi rin yung dating sa kin pero sobrang lakas ng bass, na-overwhelmed yung mids and highs, if you want clarity you should not take the zaldek but if you want bass shakers go get it.

Cheers,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Dec 12, 2003 at 05:31 PM
LtCool,

Kamusta Wharfs natin? Broken-in na ba?  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Dec 12, 2003 at 05:53 PM
LtCool,

Kamusta Wharfs natin? Broken-in na ba?  ;D

pre, mukhang busy si LtCool sa pag break-in. ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: van_wilder on Dec 13, 2003 at 12:22 AM
mga ser, i've been reading your posts, and i was wondering to what receiver are you pairing the 8.4's. also, i have a sub made by A Audio, do i need pa the 8.4 or settle for something less? btw, my receiver kasi is a maraantz 4300.
hans, kamusta pre?
advice naman, ituloy tuloy ko na ba na wharf all the way and which one do i get for the fronts? what i have is just a pair of 8.1's and a diamond center.
thanks
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: van_wilder on Dec 13, 2003 at 12:27 AM
pahabol pa, to those who wall mounted their 8.1's , whats the advisable level?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Dec 13, 2003 at 09:08 AM
[slayer],kimpao your right bros. im enjoying my 8.4s, nung una parang gusto kung ibalik kasi medyo muddy yung highs and mids pero i just waited until the speaker were broken-in upto -25 dB pa lang yung volume ko ang lakas na, and clear yung details, i bought pa nga yung best of chesky records test disc vol. 3 para lalong mapadali yung burn-in ng wires, equipment and speakers.

Kahit wala pa sub this babies shake my room when i played Craig David and Jaheim at -20 dB.

Im enjoying listening to Ana Caram, Jacintha, Diana Krall, Ella Fitzgerald and more... on this babies.


Cheers,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Wheelbirth on Dec 13, 2003 at 09:32 AM
LTCool, I just sent you PM. This is regarding your 8.4. Tanx. =)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Dec 13, 2003 at 09:57 AM
[slayer],kimpao your right bros. im enjoying my 8.4s, nung una parang gusto kung ibalik kasi medyo muddy yung highs and mids pero i just waited until the speaker were broken-in upto -25 dB pa lang yung volume ko ang lakas na, and clear yung details, i bought pa nga yung best of chesky records test disc vol. 3 para lalong mapadali yung burn-in ng wires, equipment and speakers.

Kahit wala pa sub this babies shake my room when i played Craig David and Jaheim at -20 dB.

Im enjoying listening to Ana Caram, Jacintha, Diana Krall, Ella Fitzgerald and more... on this babies.


Cheers,
-LtCool-

congrats LtCool,  tiyaga lang bro in breaking in these babies. Ilan months na ba yan 8.4 mo?  The only reason why I sold my 8.4 is that it was too powerful for a 3mX3m room and of course i needed the moolah back then. ahehehehehe.  Now these babies will make you think if you still need subs, right?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Dec 14, 2003 at 08:13 AM
Wheelbirth, i just replied to your pm.

Kimpao, it's a two week old, your right bro kala ko may sub ako, hanggang -20 dB pa lang max na nasubukan ko, baka mahulog yung mga figurine ni misis mayari pa ako, hehehe.

Cheers,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: AudioAddict on Dec 14, 2003 at 11:11 AM
Sa tingin ko proper calibration and positioning lang ang problema ninyo. Anong Amp ba gamit ninyo? Nasa proper amplifier or receiver lang yan. Although I'm using B&W S3 speakers over a Yamaha RX-V730 na compare ko rin naman yung tunong nung wharfedale diamonds. Ok naman sya at di naman na lalayo ang tunog nila. I suggest na you guys get a powerful amp or reciever like Yamaha's, Onkyo, NAD, Rotel or Harman Kardon to maximize the capability of the speaker. Compare mo ang wharfedale sa yamaha speakers. Wala ibubuga ang yamaha speakers. Or if you're out of the budget, get KEF cresta speakers for entry level HT. Try to auditioned it sa Sound Dimension Park Square Makati and if you really decided to buy mura sa kanila pati wharfedale ay cheaper sa kanila.

Read more reviews ng mga owners sa Web, wag basta maniwala sa magazines.

 ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: waycool on Dec 14, 2003 at 03:17 PM
Hi!

Okay na ba ito for entry level HT setup?
Yamaha rx-v440 (14,000 pesos)
diamond 8.1 (4,650 pesos)
diamond center + surrounds (3,850pesos)

pwede ko rin connect yung receiver sa pc ko right?

tsaka pangit ba talaga yung yamaha sa music? or normal lang? If hindi tlaga ganon kaganda, anong receiver dapat gamitin na both okay sa movies and music (same price range)? I plan to use it for dvd, music and games kasi. I'm pretty much set na sa speakers.  Yung receiver na lang isip ko.

san places pa mas mura yang pinost ko na prices? yung mga prices galing sa park square.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: triplex on Dec 14, 2003 at 05:16 PM
waycool,

suggest you get price quotes of the wharfs from nelrey at the assorted buy and sell.  personally, i own a yammy and wharf combi, so far am satisfied with it sa movies, pwede na din for music.  better audition other receivers but if your in a tight budget, your option is already a good entry level HT. try ambasador sa virramall, greenhills also for the yammys.

goodluck pare.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: AudioAddict on Dec 14, 2003 at 11:58 PM
Waycool,

I suggest na Yamaha RX-V540 na kunin mo, mabibitin ka lang sa lakas ng 440. Try no bumili sa ambassador makati or greenhills. Kung wharfedale ang budget mong speakers kapos ang 440. Try to audition it sa Listening Room MegaMall. They have yamaha receivers and wharfedale speakers you can compare the difference. But some times kasi you need to break in your speaker before it really comes out the real capabilities. If you really need a budget speaker, Try to get sa sound dimension sa park sqaure makati. Mura wharfedales doon. Or get KEF cresta or coda British speakers for your entry level. They sound very well in affordable price.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Dec 15, 2003 at 01:15 AM
Hi!

Okay na ba ito for entry level HT setup?
Yamaha rx-v440 (14,000 pesos)
diamond 8.1 (4,650 pesos)
diamond center + surrounds (3,850pesos)

pwede ko rin connect yung receiver sa pc ko right?

tsaka pangit ba talaga yung yamaha sa music? or normal lang? If hindi tlaga ganon kaganda, anong receiver dapat gamitin na both okay sa movies and music (same price range)? I plan to use it for dvd, music and games kasi. I'm pretty much set na sa speakers.  Yung receiver na lang isip ko.

san places pa mas mura yang pinost ko na prices? yung mga prices galing sa park square.

here's my suggestion bro.  seems that you're really in a tight budget.  anyway, here goes,  yamaha definitely is great for HT so 440 is a good choice but for audio it's not, definitely everyone will agree on this. if your into 50% movies and 50% audio then you should get the Harman Kardon but you have to shell-out a little more since the lowest i've seen is around 18k for the hk2550 bnew (triplex is right, try to contact nelrey for the best price). Speakers, diamonds are a good choice but the thing is sa 8.1 baka mabitin ka sa bass especially for movies. although 8.1s are nice you still need to compliment these with sub-woofers to get that "slam" lalo na sa movies.  you may want to consider wharfedale crystals, it's much cheaper and they sound very much like diamonds.  but if you really want diamonds, get 8.3s or 8.4s for fronts.  for the center, get the diamond center and then just save up on the sub-woofer and surround speakers. sa surrounds pwede ka naman gumamit ng speakers nung mini-compo, if you have. pag may "moolah" ka then get the surrounds.
 
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Wheelbirth on Dec 15, 2003 at 07:00 AM
LtCool tanx for the input.  :) I already grab 8.4. HK 2550 with 8.4 for me swak na swak talaga.   :) I was hesitant to get the wharf diamond before because there are many post here na mahina daw sa high ang wharf. When I tested 8.4, for me ayos na ayos sa clarity and high. I'm so glad na nag match sya sa existing HK 2550 ko. And guys, for the bass, talagang na overwhelmed ako. Super bass sya to the point na pinakinggan ko mga audio CDs ko without my sub turned on. Before I decided to buy it, I even tested it side by side with M73i. Fortunately, my untrain ears didn't notice the difference of the two speakers.  :) Para bang they offered me ice creams that are branded with Magnolia and Selecta then asked me which brand taste good. The 8.4 I've got are out of the box. Not yet broken in. Ngayon palang, for me it is already a best buy. I'll update my post here after the break in period.

Because of this site(pinoydvd.com), I end up a very very happy user. Dito ko nakuha ang HK 2550 and wharf combi.  :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 15, 2003 at 10:26 AM
wheelbirth,

Pre very good match yun HK2550 and Wharf diamond.. you mention that you didn't notice diff between M73i and 8.4 aside from bass its maybe because of your HK driving the wharf.. wharf need power just like dynaudio to sing and give its true sound..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: cousin skeeter on Dec 15, 2003 at 10:53 AM
am using diamond 8.1s for my surrounds now and theyre very good sounding speakers for the price. i was able to get mine for 3K (6 months used) which was better for me coz they were fully broken in when i got them  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Dec 15, 2003 at 10:57 AM
Congrats!! Wait till you break-in those babies...

Happy listenting... ;D

LtCool tanx for the input.  :) I already grab 8.4. HK 2550 with 8.4 for me swak na swak talaga.   :) I was hesitant to get the wharf diamond before because there are many post here na mahina daw sa high ang wharf. When I tested 8.4, for me ayos na ayos sa clarity and high. I'm so glad na nag match sya sa existing HK 2550 ko. And guys, for the bass, talagang na overwhelmed ako. Super bass sya to the point na pinakinggan ko mga audio CDs ko without my sub turned on. Before I decided to buy it, I even tested it side by side with M73i. Fortunately, my untrain ears didn't notice the difference of the two speakers.  :) Para bang they offered me ice creams that are branded with Magnolia and Selecta then asked me which brand taste good. The 8.4 I've got are out of the box. Not yet broken in. Ngayon palang, for me it is already a best buy. I'll update my post here after the break in period.

Because of this site(pinoydvd.com), I end up a very very happy user. Dito ko nakuha ang HK 2550 and wharf combi.  :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Wheelbirth on Dec 15, 2003 at 11:59 AM
wheelbirth,

Pre very good match yun HK2550 and Wharf diamond.. you mention that you didn't notice diff between M73i and 8.4 aside from bass its maybe because of your HK driving the wharf.. wharf need power just like dynaudio to sing and give its true sound..

Hans Adriane , I second  that.  HK rules.  Though medyo nabigatan ako sa price nang HK receiver, it's worth every centavo kasi nga naka tipid ako sa speaker without compromising performance. So far, I'm really enjoying HT and stereo music with my entry level setup.  :) :) :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 15, 2003 at 12:04 PM
wheelbirth,

congrats sir on your setup malupet yan!! value for money yan.. kahit upgrade ka speaker ok parin matching sa HK hehehe..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: waycool on Dec 15, 2003 at 08:07 PM
Thanks for all your input!  I'll think about it muna para d magsisi sa huli.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: cousin skeeter on Dec 16, 2003 at 12:41 PM
waycool,

bro, piece of advice, dont go all out on one purchase. if you can't afford the equipment you want now but you think you can save enough to get em after several months, then hold back lang muna. otherwise, i wouldnt be surprised if you sold/upgraded your hastily-bought gears several months down the line. one cant say that he/she is just a casual audio/ht hobbyist because once the audio bug bites and youre starting to really enjoy this hobby, youre gonna wish you had more patience in the first place. :)

last night, i did a two-hour listening session comparing the 8.1s i bought from archangel (6 month used) and my monitor audio b2s. i listened to all kinds of music; rock, pop, acoustic, jazz and the most obvious difference i immediately noticed was the detail and clarity of the b2s. the 8.1s were a bit muddled and boxed-in and seemed to resonate a bit at higher volumes. i did the "knuckle test" on both and b2s did have a deeper "thud" than the 8.1s which explains the resonance. soundstaging of the b2 is definitely better and the only department the 8.1s seem to be at par with the b2s was in the higher mids. i wont comment on the bass as it would be unfair with the 8.1s smaller cone size. im not saying that the 8.1s sound bad, actually they sound great for their size and price and i wouldnt mind using them for audio listening in a smaller room.

why the comparison? before i bought my gears, i did wonder how the 8.1s fared with other speakers and some of the first time buyers might be wondering this too. point is, if i did an all-in-one purchase months ago, i might be selling some of the speakers to fund an upgrade now. patience really pays off.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: p.dividdy2 on Dec 16, 2003 at 02:30 PM
cousin skeeter,

itatanong ko plang nga kung nagkakalayo ba talaga ang sound ng b2 at 8.1  sinagot mo na kaagad!.. ;D

kasi yan din ang iniisip ko..kung konti lang difference nila sa sound mag titipid na lang ako at mag 8.1...
or kahit 8.4 pwede rin di ba.. but if the b2 is better talaga..then ipon pa rin konti ehehe

correct ka sa point na buy the best your budget can handle...pero sometimes din kasi andun din yung fun sa upgrading..although hindi fun sa bulsa..yung bang may new toy ka every once in a while..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Dec 16, 2003 at 02:34 PM
I agree with pdividdy...  once you're settled with your "best" setup... pretty soon you'll be looking for a better more.

And the cycle goes on and on...
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Dec 16, 2003 at 02:40 PM
cousin skeeter,
correct ka sa point na buy the best your budget can handle...pero sometimes din kasi andun din yung fun sa upgrading..although hindi fun sa bulsa..yung bang may new toy ka every once in a while..

this only applies if you have moolahs to play with...  ;D  ;D i totally agree that its always fun to have new toys..  ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: cousin skeeter on Dec 16, 2003 at 02:58 PM
cousin skeeter,

itatanong ko plang nga kung nagkakalayo ba talaga ang sound ng b2 at 8.1  sinagot mo na kaagad!.. ;D

kasi yan din ang iniisip ko..kung konti lang difference nila sa sound mag titipid na lang ako at mag 8.1...
or kahit 8.4 pwede rin di ba.. but if the b2 is better talaga..then ipon pa rin konti ehehe

correct ka sa point na buy the best your budget can handle...pero sometimes din kasi andun din yung fun sa upgrading..although hindi fun sa bulsa..yung bang may new toy ka every once in a while..

no problemo bro. but im not in the position to say if the b2 is better than the 8.4 since ang 8.1 pa lang ang napakinggan ko sa diamond series. the 8.4 being a floorstander, i would assume it has stronger bass. yeah, i think the b2 and the 8.4 would be a fair comparison. it would all depend on your preferences. if you want to have a floorstander, louder bass, not to mention that its still cheaper, the 8.4 might be it for you. but if you prefer imaging, clarity and detail, id go with the b2.

once pa lang ako nag upgrade. yamaha620 to hk2550. but it wasnt a loss for me coz i sold the yammie at a higher price than i bought it. mahal kasi audio/ht gears dito sa amin :)

[slayer],

yah bro, same sa profession natin. you thought u had the fastest PC/server but a few months down the road ur upgrading again, hehehe
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: p.dividdy2 on Dec 16, 2003 at 03:14 PM
cousin skeeter,

are you saying na mas may bass talaga ang b2.. i heard na kasi the 8.1 and 8.3 which is a floorstander and both have relatively weak bass..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Dec 16, 2003 at 03:18 PM
I agree with pdividdy...  once you're settled with your "best" setup... pretty soon you'll be looking for a better more.

And the cycle goes on and on...

you got me right between the eyes, pre  :-X parang may symptoms na ako ng SARS!!!!!!!!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: cousin skeeter on Dec 16, 2003 at 03:23 PM
when compared to the 8.1, of course yes but as i said its not a fair comparison. but compared sa 8.4, the 8.4 might have the edge na sa bass.

i enjoy listening to rock music really loud and when i do, only the bass of a subwoofer can satisfy me in that aspect. iba talaga when u can "feel" the thumping.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Dec 16, 2003 at 03:32 PM
i think it would'nt be fair to compare the b2 against the 8.3 or 8.4 since the later are floorstanders and b2's are bookshelves.  definitely bass on both is different from the b2.  mas may punch yung mga floorstanders than the bookshelves, diba.  i think the b2 should be compared to the 8.2 and the likes.  just my inputs mga bro.  

peace to all and merry christmas!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Dec 16, 2003 at 03:51 PM
Pre,

Kinakati ka nanaman! Ahahaha... ;D

you got me right between the eyes, pre  :-X parang may symptoms na ako ng SARS!!!!!!!!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: cousin skeeter on Dec 16, 2003 at 03:54 PM
the 8.4s being only 8K+ and the B2 at 11K+, it does give one a lot to think about. its already a floorstander, with seperate mid and low freq drivers yet cheaper by almost 3K.

me, i wouldn't mind owning a pair of 8.4s someday. use them as fronts for my ht and use my b2s for a seperate audio setup.

anyway, merry christmas too pre kimpao!!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Dec 16, 2003 at 05:35 PM
Pre,

Kinakati ka nanaman! Ahahaha... ;D

S2 / Dynaco ST-70 Series 1 :'( :'(
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Dec 16, 2003 at 05:42 PM
the 8.4s being only 8K+ and the B2 at 11K+, it does give one a lot to think about. its already a floorstander, with seperate mid and low freq drivers yet cheaper by almost 3K.

me, i wouldn't mind owning a pair of 8.4s someday. use them as fronts for my ht and use my b2s for a seperate audio setup.

anyway, merry christmas too pre kimpao!!

price comparison, definitely its a steal for 8.4 and i definitely agree with you cousin skeeter.  Performance, i used to have 8.4s, ok siya, ask LtCool on what he thinks (di niyo ba napansin, tahimik sa LtCool, masyadong busy sa pag break-in, ahehehehehe ;D ;D ;D).
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: p.dividdy2 on Dec 17, 2003 at 01:16 AM
cousin skeeter,

yan nga ang orig plan ko 8.4 for the fronts..eh tapos nabasa ko yung monitor audio thread...nalito na ako ehehe
kasi mga 40% ht 40% ps2 20% audio ang gamit ko..but i already have a yammy sub..which is nice.. yun lang kasi kung gabi na nayayanig ang wood flooring namin so i need something na may bass...yung tama lang basta huwag naman parang 8.1 ..  if the b2 has that baka b2 na lang...kung medyo kulang pa rin then back to the orig plan of 8.4.. yun nga lang i dont have that much space for a floorstander to breathe..

 
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Dec 17, 2003 at 01:25 PM
Wag mong kalimutan ipamana sakin yang B4 mo kung sakali! ;D Black ba B4 mo?

DAMI MONG PERA!!

S2 / Dynaco ST-70 Series 1 :'( :'(
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: cousin skeeter on Dec 17, 2003 at 02:11 PM
cousin skeeter,

yan nga ang orig plan ko 8.4 for the fronts..eh tapos nabasa ko yung monitor audio thread...nalito na ako ehehe
kasi mga 40% ht 40% ps2 20% audio ang gamit ko..but i already have a yammy sub..which is nice.. yun lang kasi kung gabi na nayayanig ang wood flooring namin so i need something na may bass...yung tama lang basta huwag naman parang 8.1 ..  if the b2 has that baka b2 na lang...kung medyo kulang pa rin then back to the orig plan of 8.4.. yun nga lang i dont have that much space for a floorstander to breathe..

same here pre, i didnt get floorstanders coz once in a while iniiba ang setup ng sala namin and sometimes i need to place them on top of the tv rack. like right now may christmas tree left side ng tv namin so no room for floorstanders. you have more placement options with bookshelves kasi.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: BuLLeT on Dec 17, 2003 at 02:22 PM
It's perfectly ok to desire new pieces of equipment since it's part of progress/change. This drives us to persevere more and not to be stagnant.

But for the time being... let's concentrate on what we have and not on what we do not have. This will make us appreciate our system more. ;)

It's like counting our blessings since most of the people out there do not even have the chance to enjoy a very basic kind of set up.

For the meantime.. let's continue to mate and rock with our system and save moolah to combat the SARS virus.... ahihi

HAPPY HOLIDAYS........ (am I making sense here?) ???
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: cousin skeeter on Dec 17, 2003 at 02:37 PM
It's perfectly ok to desire new pieces of equipment since it's part of progress/change. This drives us to persevere more and not to be stagnant.

But for the time being... let's concentrate on what we have and not on what we do not have. This will make us appreciate our system more. ;)

It's like counting our blessings since most of the people out there do not even have the chance to enjoy a very basic kind of set up.

For the meantime.. let's continue to mate and rock with our system and save moolah to combat the SARS virus.... ahihi

HAPPY HOLIDAYS........ (am I making sense here?) ???

you hit it dead center bro!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpOy on Dec 17, 2003 at 02:41 PM
to whom already made an audition on 8.3 and 8.4,
on your personally opinion malayo ba ang pagkakaiba nila?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Dec 17, 2003 at 02:47 PM
Pre,

The only difference is the bass reproduction.  Merely becuase the 8.4 has a separate driver for the bass.  Highs and Mids are the same.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: BuLLeT on Dec 17, 2003 at 03:26 PM
Has anyone also compared the differences bet. the sound characteristics of an 8.4 and the new Gale Speakers?

Any comment will be much appreciated since I can't audition them for the time being (or at least in the nest 8 months pa. ... hu hu hu :'(.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Dec 17, 2003 at 03:33 PM
Wag mong kalimutan ipamana sakin yang B4 mo kung sakali! ;D Black ba B4 mo?

DAMI MONG PERA!!
black yung b4, pre? Ipamana? Bwahahahaha!!! ;D ;D ;D Yung kahon nalang nung b4 pwede.

MERRY CHRISTMAS and PEACE TO ALL!!!!!!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: van_wilder on Dec 17, 2003 at 08:34 PM
need your advice guys,
i'm presently using 8.1's for fronts pati diamond center, what would be more advisable, getting an 8.3 or an 8.4? or would getting additional 8.1's be advisable too? hope anybody can respond to this. thanks
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Dec 17, 2003 at 09:02 PM
need your advice guys,
i'm presently using 8.1's for fronts pati diamond center, what would be more advisable, getting an 8.3 or an 8.4? or would getting additional 8.1's be advisable too? hope anybody can respond to this. thanks

i'm a fan of the 8.1's so my vote would go to them  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Dec 17, 2003 at 09:11 PM
need your advice guys,
i'm presently using 8.1's for fronts pati diamond center, what would be more advisable, getting an 8.3 or an 8.4? or would getting additional 8.1's be advisable too? hope anybody can respond to this. thanks

8.1. Unless you have a very powerful amp to drive the 8.3 or 8.4
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: van_wilder on Dec 17, 2003 at 09:31 PM
guys, thanks for the quick reply, i appreciate it. my receiver is a marantz 4300 and i'm quite impressed with the combination. so what you are saying is that i-8.1 all the way ko na?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Dec 17, 2003 at 10:36 PM
guys, thanks for the quick reply, i appreciate it. my receiver is a marantz 4300 and i'm quite impressed with the combination. so what you are saying is that i-8.1 all the way ko na?

i used to have a marantz sr4200, 8.1 for fronts and diamond center. in retrospect, i should have just gotten another pair of 8.1's to complete my set-up, and made a new one for audio...

laki pa sana ng natipid ko  ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 18, 2003 at 09:05 AM
Van wild,

Musta na sir?? 8.1 mmhh as PHilander mention if your amp can drive the 8.3 or 8.4 pwede.. or try mo rin ang MA B2 sir..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: van_wilder on Dec 18, 2003 at 11:29 AM
 8)
Hans,
thanks. kamusta na din. it's been a long time since i went back here and yesterday dami ko binasa sa threads.
anyway i have kasi a small room for my ht lang around 3x4 meters lang and i'm really toying between another set of 8.1 or the twin towers. watchatink?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 18, 2003 at 11:42 AM
vAN WILD,

Ok lang ako pre.. marami gastos na sa setup hehehe Sir if got you the budget better buy the floorstander kasi even in small room pwede rin.. solution dyan is cover the hole with a foam or place the speaker far away sa wall..but reminder pre you have to audition first if your AVr can drive the floorstander.. to make sure match sila.. pero kung 8.1 type mo ok pa rin basta may sub ka lang..

or try Gale speaker ( 5th Ave shangrila branch) ok din price audition lang pre..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: van_wilder on Dec 18, 2003 at 12:12 PM
avr ko is marantz4300, will try the floorstander bka tomorrow.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: van_wilder on Dec 18, 2003 at 12:15 PM
also, are you familiar or do you know anyone familiar with old speakers? may na-unearth ako sa bodega ng parents' hse ko, big kenwood speakers circa 1970's ok pa tumunog pero di ko alam specs, took pictures of it nga kanina e
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 18, 2003 at 12:21 PM
van wild,

Look for Sir Akyatbundok baka alam yan... ok yan sir
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: van_wilder on Dec 18, 2003 at 12:22 PM
aprub. thanks ulit
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: yukon on Dec 19, 2003 at 10:01 AM
It's perfectly ok to desire new pieces of equipment since it's part of progress/change. This drives us to persevere more and not to be stagnant.

But for the time being... let's concentrate on what we have and not on what we do not have. This will make us appreciate our system more. ;)

It's like counting our blessings since most of the people out there do not even have the chance to enjoy a very basic kind of set up.

For the meantime.. let's continue to mate and rock with our system and save moolah to combat the SARS virus.... ahihi

HAPPY HOLIDAYS........ (am I making sense here?) ???


You are oh so right!!!
It''s like you tellling me, "hey yukon, tama na..."
Okay sige, just this one na lang... I need a Power Line Conditioner/Filter na lang talaga - eheheh...

Happy Holidays... (yes, you do make sense).
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: cousin skeeter on Dec 19, 2003 at 10:16 AM
8)
Hans,
thanks. kamusta na din. it's been a long time since i went back here and yesterday dami ko binasa sa threads.
anyway i have kasi a small room for my ht lang around 3x4 meters lang and i'm really toying between another set of 8.1 or the twin towers. watchatink?
do you have a sub? if so, i'd go for 8.1s. if not, 8.4s. make sure lang your avr can drive them.  :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Audioboy on Dec 19, 2003 at 10:39 AM
You are oh so right!!!
It''s like you tellling me, "hey yukon, tama na..."
Okay sige, just this one na lang... I need a Power Line Conditioner/Filter na lang talaga - eheheh...

Happy Holidays... (yes, you do make sense).

nad542 pa ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: yukon on Dec 19, 2003 at 11:35 AM
nad542 pa ;D

Waaaaahhhhh!!!  :-[ :'(
lubayan nyo na ako!!!
Waaaaahhhhh!!!  :-[ :'(
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Dec 19, 2003 at 12:14 PM
Waaaaahhhhh!!!  :-[ :'(
lubayan nyo na ako!!!
Waaaaahhhhh!!!  :-[ :'(

atsaka WS amp  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: yukon on Dec 19, 2003 at 02:30 PM
atsaka WS amp  ;D

crispin!?... basilio!?... nasan kayo?...
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Bartman on Dec 19, 2003 at 04:14 PM
anyone using 8.4s with a yamaha rx-v440?  is it powerful enough to drive the Wharfs?

Any feedback would be appreciated.  I was hoping to get this set-up soon. thanks  :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Dec 19, 2003 at 04:27 PM
try asking LtCool
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: van_wilder on Dec 19, 2003 at 06:17 PM
do you have a sub? if so, i'd go for 8.1s. if not, 8.4s. make sure lang your avr can drive them.  :)
cosin skeeter, thanks, yes i do have subs custom made by nirvblakr, and my avr is a marantz 4300
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Audioboy on Dec 19, 2003 at 07:29 PM
atsaka WS amp  ;D

sir yukon,

di ba may souped up tubo kana? ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: yukon on Dec 19, 2003 at 10:47 PM
sir yukon,

di ba may souped up tubo kana? ;D ;D ;D



ssshhhh...  :-X gawa namin (naks sama ako dun sa paggawa ano) ng kaibigan kong balikbayan...  8) 8) 8)
I made sure medyo hands-on ako para pag nag-trouble medyo maintindihan ko.
ssshhh... atin-atin lang...

crispin!!! basilio!!! nasa'n na kayo!!!?...  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: p.dividdy2 on Dec 19, 2003 at 10:54 PM
naki-audition ako kanina sa spectra at sights and sounds..  bakit muddy yung sound ng wharfes.. i heard 8.1 & wh-2..and  8.4.. dahil ba di pa na break in liliwanag ba ang sound kapag tumagal?...o ganon talaga..kasi last time ako nag audition ng 8.3 parang di naman ganon..hmmm...
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Audioboy on Dec 20, 2003 at 09:35 AM
ssshhhh...  :-X gawa namin (naks sama ako dun sa paggawa ano) ng kaibigan kong balikbayan...  8) 8) 8)
I made sure medyo hands-on ako para pag nag-trouble medyo maintindihan ko.
ssshhh... atin-atin lang...

crispin!!! basilio!!! nasa'n na kayo!!!?...  ;D ;D ;D

opppppppps!  :-X

kala ko nawasa pipe lang yan? ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 20, 2003 at 09:39 AM
P.dividdy,

Sir have wharf diamond before and yes kung di pa broken in o out of the box pwede ganyan sound but after some hours of run in clear na sya.. btw what amp was paired with the speaker??.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Dec 20, 2003 at 10:41 AM
anyone using 8.4s with a yamaha rx-v440?  is it powerful enough to drive the Wharfs?

Any feedback would be appreciated.  I was hoping to get this set-up soon. thanks  :)

Sir Bartman, baka mahirapan yung 440 sa 8.4 cause the speakers are rated 150 watts RMS though you may hear sound pero sayang kung hindi ma-i-drive yung speaker to its real potentials.

Instead, try pairing 8.3s for floorstanders or 8.1 if you want bookshelf setup.

Cheers,
-LtCool-


Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Dec 20, 2003 at 10:49 AM
naki-audition ako kanina sa spectra at sights and sounds..  bakit muddy yung sound ng wharfes.. i heard 8.1 & wh-2..and  8.4.. dahil ba di pa na break in liliwanag ba ang sound kapag tumagal?...o ganon talaga..kasi last time ako nag audition ng 8.3 parang di naman ganon..hmmm...

baka out-of-the-box yung mga wharfes, talagang muddy yung  mga speaker pag hindi pag na break-in, I assure you na you would appreciate it when the drivers are fully broken in, It took me weeks to break in the speakers, yung bass drivers medyo hindi pa nga fully break-in.

Though placement of the speaker is neccessary, if proper placement of this floorstanders are attained you would hear the singer's voice just directly at the center (if two speaker setup) parang wala kang floorstander na speaker.

btw im using RX-V640 paired with 8.4s (volume @ -30 dB)

Cheers,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Dec 20, 2003 at 01:18 PM
Yung 8.1 ko, 6 months bago ko naappreciate yung sound. Nung first two months, sobrang pangit ng tunog, bulol, ngongo at garalgal. Muntik nang mapunta sa assorted buy & sell section.

Pero ngayon, ang layo nang iginanda ng tunog. I'm very much satisfied. I'll keep it hanggang sa masira. Pag may kapalit na, I'll  use it as rear speakers.

At the same time, madaling itransport kung kailangang mag-audition ng amp or mapakinggan sa ibang lugar.... or iparinig sa house ng mga friends (to influence them sa HT and audio).  ;)

 :) ;D :) Merry Christmas to all.

Christmas song naman sa audio gears natin!!!!!

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: waycool on Dec 20, 2003 at 07:38 PM
hehe ngayon lang ako ulit nakabasa. Anyways... I'm really on a budget kasi.  I'm not willing to go over 30k for ht audio. So pag bibili ako gusto ko yung tatagal na.

ok so what can i buy for a 30k budget? Including 5.1 setup and a receiver that will be used for (33.3% music, 33.3% video, 33.3% PC games). Actually hindi pa ko bibili now kasi kelangan ko pa ipon. Excited lang ako. hehe.  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 20, 2003 at 10:55 PM
Waycool,

Pre for 30k Wharf pasok dyan sir tapos check out buy and sell assorted section.. to get  AVR.. naman.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kerwin on Dec 20, 2003 at 11:58 PM
is there a wharfedale model that is compact that i can use as rear center?  if there is what model and would it tonally match my existing yamaha p50?  i was considering getting the diamond center. the problem was that the rear wall is right behind the head rest of the bed.  if i would mount the speaker, it would look awkward since it would be protruding too much. i would appreciate any info you can give me
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: p.dividdy2 on Dec 21, 2003 at 12:06 AM
sa spectra.. the setup was wh-2 then 8.1 i dont know what sub was on tapos hk avr..
may tatay kasi na nagpapa-audition naki uzi lang ako..die another day yung movie..nung nag explosions na..sabog na yung tunog galing sa 8.1 kaya lumabas na ako and hindi naman kalakasan ang volume normal lang...

ang impression ko..malabo ang tunog ng whole setup kulang sa highs..ngo ngo sakto sa sinabi ni philander...

then lipat ako sa sights and sounds.. denon ang avr then naka wharf na diamond center, 8.4s tapos rear niya yung galing sa wh-2... may sub kasi kaya di ko masyado na appreciate yung bass ng 8.4 pero ganon din yung tunog ng whole set-up..muddy at ngo ngo..
ang movie saving private ryan... di ko na nga natanong kung magkano yung 8.4 dahil na dismaya na ako..ehehe
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Dec 21, 2003 at 07:10 AM
hehehe, ako rin ganun yung narinig ko sa 8.4 ko na out-of-the box, kasi harsh pa yung mga tweeters but patient is a virtue ika nga nila, try auditioning wharfes that are fully broken in, cause i think wharf's manufaturer didn't burn-in their speakers from their factory unlike other brands, which is ready to hear na parang yung mga RTW na damit.

But that was just my ears.

Cheers,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Wheelbirth on Dec 21, 2003 at 07:31 AM
Buti nalang hindi ngongo wharfs ko.  :) Out of the box, swak na swak na talaga sa HK ko. Highs, mids and bass, ayos na ayos. Although I noticed na when I was playing songs from male artists, medyo parang husky and vocal. Parang strained ang boses nang mga male singers. Pero sa female vocal, swabe talaga. After several days of playing the speakers, nawala na yong problem. Then last nigt, I angled my speakers inward. The result? Wowwwww, lalung gumanda ang tunog. Nag improve ang imaging.  Pati bass, lalong gumanda. Parang sunsilk nga eh. Paganda nang paganda.  :) :) :)

One thing I dislike about wharfs is their grills. Cheapo grills. It's fimsy and it rattles when I'm playing R&B.   :(  Guys, do you have an idea on how to change the grill of wharfs? Or how to imrove it to avoid the rattle? Taking off the grills is not a good idea kasi because I have children. Thanks and merry xmas to all!  :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Dec 21, 2003 at 07:50 AM
Wheelbirth, ako rin pare ayaw ko ng grills nila, i usually took them off when i listen to them, I do have a kid, a 2 and a half year old, at first medyo excited syang pindot pindutin yung drivers, but when i ask him not to do that and just sit beside me, and telling him that those speakers are meant for only listening purposes, and do the whole strategy everytime he approaches the floorstanders and it works, and now he immitates what im doing, he sits beside me when i listen to my system. But one thing you should not show to your child, it is when taking off and returning the grills.

But again this is only one of your options and my opinion.
   
Cheers,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 22, 2003 at 08:44 AM
Wheelbirth,

LtCool is right... as for grill better listen with the grill off mas clear and detail.. replace lang after listening.. ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Yakuini on Dec 22, 2003 at 09:30 AM
Guys, anyone tried pairing 8.1 with Sakura amp? Plan ko kasi is DTX tower but plan ko rin kasing mag upgrade ng receiver to RXV440. So if incase meron na akong 440, I can purchase 8.3 as front then gawin surround yung 8.1.

Pero it will take me months before I can upgrade so I have to make sure first kung okay ang 8.1 sa Sakura. If not, DTX/US Audio na lang ako.

Thanks :D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mojako on Dec 22, 2003 at 02:24 PM
I have a Sakura amp + 8.1 fronts.  Ganda ng tunog!  Very detailed highs and mids.  Pero tweaked to nila Nirv eh.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Wheelbirth on Dec 23, 2003 at 07:22 AM
@Hans Adriane and LtCool,

Ganon nanga lang siguro ang option ko. That's what I'm doing right now. Nag tataka nga si misis why I'm taking them off and on.   ;D   Usually, how many hours does it take before wharfs is fully broken in?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Bartman on Dec 23, 2003 at 09:46 AM
Sir Bartman, baka mahirapan yung 440 sa 8.4 cause the speakers are rated 150 watts RMS though you may hear sound pero sayang kung hindi ma-i-drive yung speaker to its real potentials.

Instead, try pairing 8.3s for floorstanders or 8.1 if you want bookshelf setup.

Cheers,
-LtCool-





thanks a lot sir for your insights
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Bartman on Dec 23, 2003 at 09:46 AM
Sir Bartman, baka mahirapan yung 440 sa 8.4 cause the speakers are rated 150 watts RMS though you may hear sound pero sayang kung hindi ma-i-drive yung speaker to its real potentials.

Instead, try pairing 8.3s for floorstanders or 8.1 if you want bookshelf setup.

Cheers,
-LtCool-




thanks a lot for your insights sir
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: p.dividdy2 on Dec 24, 2003 at 12:26 AM
hello boys and girls... i finally gave in..

i got myself a diamond 8.1 as a xmas gift to myself..
kararating ko lang sa bahay at super traffic sa south super highway grabe!

now why did i get the 8.1?.. i first auditioned the 8.4 then the 8.1..  konti lang pala difference nila sa bass..tapos mas upfront ang tunog ng 8.1 at mas madaling ilipat-lipat as i said wala akong masyadong space for a floorstander.. and kung kulang sa bass i have a sub naman..also i was thinking kung may pera ulit i can buy a new pair of speakers again..tapos lipat ito sa rear..di ba mas masaya?   :D

also i heard the mission floorstander na m73  (tama ba model no. ko).. ganda.. clearer sound and ang bass walang sinabi ang 8.4... ::)  if you have a budget for the 8.4..i think its better to add a little and get missions kahit m72...

anyway, maya maya ikakabit ko na ang aking diamond.. ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Dec 24, 2003 at 08:27 AM
@Hans Adriane and LtCool,

Ganon nanga lang siguro ang option ko. That's what I'm doing right now. Nag tataka nga si misis why I'm taking them off and on.   ;D   Usually, how many hours does it take before wharfs is fully broken in?

They said 24 Hours but i think longer cguro kasi intermitent naman ako magpatugtog, two weeks na nga yung 8.4 ng marinig ko na okay. pero hangang -20dB pa lang yung volume.

I love this speakers, nawawala yung floorstanders ko when i listen to Ana Caram and Jacintha, kala ko their just in front of me.

Cheers,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: doggie on Dec 25, 2003 at 06:13 AM
 Nanonood po ako ng Finding Nemo kahapon, dun po sa part na nasa loob sila ng whale.  Napansin ko po dun sa scene na malakas ang bass na parang may rattle na sound dun sa front speakers ko, so tinanggal ko yun grill and inulit ko yung scene and dun ko nalaman na masyado pala pimapalo yung woofer kaya pala may rattling sound.  Ang ginawa ko ay hininaan ko yung bass control and napansin ko na okay na.

 Yun po ba ang tinatawag na "bottom-out", Normal lang po ba yun.  May damage na po ba yung front speakers ko (diamond 8.3).

salamat po sa tulong :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: p.dividdy2 on Dec 25, 2003 at 07:51 PM
it depends...kasi ang speakers may limit sa frequency na kaya niyang ilabas..

kung kahit sa mahinang volume ay gumagaralgal pa rin.. sira na ang speaker mo...
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: UB40 on Dec 25, 2003 at 08:47 PM
that's the problem with the design of the diamond series... the woofer produces rattling sounds if it can't handle the bass
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: yukon on Dec 26, 2003 at 11:25 AM
some recordings are actually "magaralgal" even at low volume... yon bang ang dating eh naka-maximize ang "record volume" when it was copied to a medium so the output is already distorted dun sa recorded material pa lang, kaya sa playback kahit mahina pa lang eh akala mo sira na speakers mo heheh.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Dec 26, 2003 at 11:31 AM
OT na ito. But sir yukon is right.  there are certain cds and dvds that contain "crappy" signals, especially the "bootleg" ones. ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mojako on Dec 26, 2003 at 02:05 PM
Quote
that's the problem with the design of the diamond series... the woofer produces rattling sounds if it can't handle the bass

that's the job of the speakers' built in CrossOver - filters out frequencies.

No similar prob with my 8.1s
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Dec 27, 2003 at 10:34 AM
i also encountered this ratling sound on my 8.4s when listening to R&B music @ -20dB, i guess the bass drivers aren't fully broken in yet. and maybe because the rubber surround of the drivers have been stretched that far for the first time and that it produced a ratling or harsh sound.

I still have to play some Bass Shakers to break-in this rubber surrounds.

Cheers,
-LtCool-  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: doggie on Dec 27, 2003 at 10:51 AM
 Actually hininaan ko lang yung bass control sa receiver and ok na sya, I repeated the scene na nagbottom-out and wala na yung rattling sound.

  I'm just worried kasi baka na damage yun woofers nung speakers ko  :-\
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: p.dividdy2 on Dec 27, 2003 at 08:34 PM
dahil walang akong masyadong magawa kahapon i biwired my 8.1s...  

first i biwired the right channel to see kung may difference..  tumaba yung sound so i proceeded to biwire the left..  initially lumakas din ang high pero a little harsh..after playing about an hour of music..medyo nabawasan  hindi na ganon ka sama...   i also watched a full movie today and all i can say is that the 8.1s gave depth and detail to my system via its nice midrange also yung bato ng sound is wide ang galing parang bipole ehehe! i placed them in front na naka angle pero you hear sounds coming directly to your left or right!

one more thing i dont play at high volumes dahil super bago pa pero when i tried to increase the volume parang mas gusto niya na malakas...

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpOy on Dec 28, 2003 at 08:05 AM
pdividy2        what cables did you use?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: p.dividdy2 on Dec 28, 2003 at 12:28 PM
kimpoy,

since i frequent the hardware store for materials for my dvd racks.. i just got the thickest speaker cables available ...halos kasing kapal siya ng pang extension cord...

you see im not really a hardcore hifi fanatic so it doesnt matter to me if i use those expensive cable..and the best thing of getting normal cables is that i can run both hf and lf wires from speaker to the amp and not just a small kapiraso to connect them both ehehe.. now it makes me wonder kung pareho lang kung kapiraso lang nga ginamit ko..nakatipid pa ulit ako ehehehe!  

anyway, i was tinkering with the speaker placement kagabi.. kasi i couldnt get enough bass sa seating position ko.. pero kung tumayo ako may bass pag upo manipis na siya..kailangan ko siya ibaba pa kaso wala na akong mapapatungan halos ear level na ang tweeter bat ganon...dapat ba mas lower pa?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Dec 29, 2003 at 10:02 AM
kimpoy,

since i frequent the hardware store for materials for my dvd racks.. i just got the thickest speaker cables available ...halos kasing kapal siya ng pang extension cord...

you see im not really a hardcore hifi fanatic so it doesnt matter to me if i use those expensive cable..and the best thing of getting normal cables is that i can run both hf and lf wires from speaker to the amp and not just a small kapiraso to connect them both ehehe.. now it makes me wonder kung pareho lang kung kapiraso lang nga ginamit ko..nakatipid pa ulit ako ehehehe!  

anyway, i was tinkering with the speaker placement kagabi.. kasi i couldnt get enough bass sa seating position ko.. pero kung tumayo ako may bass pag upo manipis na siya..kailangan ko siya ibaba pa kaso wala na akong mapapatungan halos ear level na ang tweeter bat ganon...dapat ba mas lower pa?


As a general rule, mas malakas ang bass output kapag mas malapit sa wall ang speaker...
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: AudioFan5555 on Dec 30, 2003 at 09:03 AM

Mahina talaga 8.1 when it comes to bass. I was using
the 8.1 as my front before. Been using it as my front channels for atleast 6 months. You really need a good sub to supplement the lack of bass of 8.1. Also, 8.1 tends to resonate or rattle in high volume. Hindi pa masyadong malakas, I'm aleady hearing rattling sound. Maybe because of the small woofer of the 8.1? Parehas lang kasi ang woofer nang 8.1 sa diamond center ko eh. This is the reason why I bought myself an 8.4 and moved my 8.1 to rear channels. Because 8.4 has big woofer compare to 8.1 and it has two woofers, now I'm enjoying my setup in HT and Stereo mode. Both of these speakers are good in highs and mids. They have the same characteristics when it comes to those areas. The only  difference I notice between these two speakers is the BASS. Now, I can even turn off my sub woofer when listening to R&B musics with my 8.4.  :)  I can crank up the volume without distortion. My receiver is Harman Kardon, it has a lot of power to drive those diamond speakers.   :)  I still have one problem though. I still have the rattling sound problem with the 8.4 when playing R&B musics that have lots of BASS. But this problem is only present on extreme high volume like -20 to -15 decibels. Guys, is this normal? Or maybe my 8.4 are not yet fully broken in? If so, do you think the rattling sound will emanate after the break in period?  I think my 8.4 are not yet fully broken in. I've been using them maybe 50 hours already. Hope, somebody here can give me advice on how to remove or atleast improve the rattling sound. Thanks.   :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: bongerds on Dec 30, 2003 at 09:59 AM

I still have one problem though. I still have the rattling sound problem with the 8.4 when playing R&B musics that have lots of BASS. But this problem is only present on extreme high volume like -20 to -15 decibels. Guys, is this normal? Or maybe my 8.4 are not yet fully broken in? If so, do you think the rattling sound will emanate after the break in period?  I think my 8.4 are not yet fully broken in. I've been using them maybe 50 hours already. Hope, somebody here can give me advice on how to remove or atleast improve the rattling sound. Thanks.   :)

Try removing the grill and putting tack on your speaker base.  I suspect it's the grill making the noise.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: AudioFan5555 on Dec 30, 2003 at 11:39 AM
Thanks for the reply.  :) I forgot to tell that I do remove those grills when listening to stereo music.  Any other suggestions? Thank you.  :D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: p.dividdy2 on Dec 30, 2003 at 11:52 AM
halos pareho nga ang tunog ng 8.1 and 8.4 except sa bass niya..kaso di kasing ganda ng bass ng m73 medyo ma mid pa rin  kaya yung 8.1 ang kinuha ko as i said mas upfront pa ang tunog ng 8.1... may bass din naman ito kapag lumapit ako at nakatayo...ibinaba ko na nga yung tweeters to ear level..may konting improvement..

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Dec 30, 2003 at 11:57 AM
Thanks for the reply.  :) I forgot to tell that I do remove those grills when listening to stereo music.  Any other suggestions? Thank you.  :D

i would suggest not to push your 8.4 to its limit since its not yet broken-in. as a rule of thumb, every new speaker needs to be broken-in properly (especially kevlars). atleast mga 100 to 150 hours bago ma break-in ang wharfs.  i previously have 8.4,  halos two months inabot ang break-in at 3 to 4 hrs listening time almost daily. :)

another thing,  try checking the area wherein the speakers are placed.  there might be other things aside from the speakers itself that are vibrating/rattling whenever you push the volume up (ie. shelves, loose items).  i for one, experienced such but i recently discovered that a certain portion of our HT room ceiling is loose and and may nakapatong pang wire dun sa loob sa plywood.  kaya whenever it gets loud, nagra-rattle siya.  ;D

just my 10 cents AudioFan5555.

happy new year bro! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Dec 30, 2003 at 12:22 PM
audiofan555
i also bought 8.1 and i agree with u about the bass (mahina talaga ang bass) u nid 2 have a good sub to do the bass thing.... somebody told me that the speakers should be break-in at low volume at 3 month period, after that the speakers are already broken in. FYI. 8)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Dec 30, 2003 at 12:28 PM
audiofan555
i also bought 8.1 and i agree with u about the bass (mahina talaga ang bass) u nid 2 have a good sub to do the bass thing.... somebody told me that the speakers should be break-in at low volume at 3 month period, after that the speakers are already broken in. FYI. 8)

Sakin 6 months bago na fully broken-in.

On the other side..

Wharfs 8.1 does have bass, please consider the small midrange woofer (not really a bass driver).

I mean, we should not expect much from this speaker. Thats why we have preferences, basically if you want more bass of course you'll choose a 'bass' speakers, if you want clear midrange, you'll choose this kind of speaker and so on....

Put 8.1 close to wall and you'll hear much powerful bass.

I have a receiver that has "Circle II surround" DSP by SRS, once turned on, 8.1 will act as a passive subwoofer...... you'll be amazed.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Dec 31, 2003 at 05:12 AM
another solution is that you course thru your LFE to the main speaker and set your main as large, this setting is applicable if your using 8.1 as main and no subwoofer hook up.

AudioFan5555 , same thing with me, wala pang 1 month yung 8.4s ko, so i'll have to play a lot of music with bass, to break-in the woofers, yung tweeters medyo clear na, i suspect it's the rubber surround of the drivers that causes the rattling sound, heard it @ -20dB volume listening to R&B.

Cheers,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: p.dividdy2 on Jan 01, 2004 at 02:29 AM
Happy New Year!


i just found out that my listening area which is in the center of my small room isnt the best place to hear the wharfs...kundi dapat i should be seated sa bed that's near the wall..may bass na...   di lang pala yung speaker near the wall kundi dapat  pala yung listener near the wal dinl... ;D  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: docritch on Jan 02, 2004 at 10:23 PM
good day guys, need your help.
i will be getting an 8.4,  and a diamond center on the 8th of jan. am currently using an rxv530 and dfs surround. do i need to change my amp? i will be using it for ht/music, 50/50%. am currently using a prosound floorstander 6inch mid driver and 8inch main driver, dq12 sub and dtx center. my budget for a new amp if needed is around 20-25k. thank you in advance.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jan 03, 2004 at 01:49 AM
good day guys, need your help.
i will be getting an 8.4,  and a diamond center on the 8th of jan. am currently using an rxv530 and dfs surround. do i need to change my amp? i will be using it for ht/music, 50/50%. am currently using a prosound floorstander 6inch mid driver and 8inch main driver, dq12 sub and dtx center. my budget for a new amp if needed is around 20-25k. thank you in advance.

Since your going to use your setup for HT and Audio (50/50) better get HK avr as yammies are great for HT and not for audio (correct me if i'm wrong but most members here can attest to that).

just a suggestion, since baka mahirapan din i-drive ng 530 yung 8.4.  try reading thru the HK thread also, bro.

happy new year and peace to all!!!!!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: docritch on Jan 03, 2004 at 08:08 PM
thank you sir kimpao for your advice. what model do you recommend? i  am willing to spend around 20-25 thou.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jan 04, 2004 at 12:57 AM
thank you sir kimpao for your advice. what model do you recommend? i  am willing to spend around 20-25 thou.

sent u pm bro
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: VinceT on Jan 07, 2004 at 07:29 AM
Sirs,

What is the cheapest price of diamond 8 speakers? What HK model is their best match?

thanks :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Jan 07, 2004 at 08:44 AM
Sirs,

What is the cheapest price of diamond 8 speakers? What HK model is their best match?

thanks :)

Im using HK5500 and matched with Diamond 8.3 and diamond center, all i can say is two thumbs up, im looking forward for an 8.1 for my surrounds. :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jan 07, 2004 at 09:29 AM
Sirs,

What is the cheapest price of diamond 8 speakers? What HK model is their best match?

thanks :)

Contact Nerley at assorted buy and sell or check prices at ambassador
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: VinceT on Jan 07, 2004 at 09:32 AM
Thanks Courage, I was planning to match it with HK2550 or HK3550...

Would also like to know what store sells diamond speaker@cheapest price...

Cheers :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Jan 07, 2004 at 09:52 AM
For cash you can contact Nelrey.  Got mine sa ambassador makati.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: cousin skeeter on Jan 07, 2004 at 10:06 AM
Thanks Courage, I was planning to match it with HK2550 or HK3550...

Would also like to know what store sells diamond speaker@cheapest price...

Cheers :)

try posting a willing to buy (WTB) message on the assorted buy and sell thread. im sure youll get lots of replies as i did. wharfs take a looong time to break in and buying several month old speakers would, in my opinion, be better since you wont have to break them in anymore. not to mention the lower prices. thats how i got my 8.1s.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Handyman on Jan 07, 2004 at 03:11 PM
share ko lang..

I am also using 8.4's (made in china) on my system...last friday, after replacing my speaker cable with my DIY spkr cable ( i used multiple pairs of networking cable)...i opened the 8.4's and found out  they used electrical wires inside...since nakabukas na sila...i decided to replace the electrical wires with speaker cable...  Result:  Bumagay sa sistema ko ang ginawa ko..:D :D :D Lalong gumanda ang tunog.

   
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: johnlen on Jan 07, 2004 at 03:48 PM
handyman,

Hmmmm, sana sinubukan mo muna pakinggan yung DIY speaker cable before replacing the internal speaker wires so that we would know which caused the better sound, or complementary silang dalawa (w/c is more likely). Nalaman sana natin which of the 2 tweaks has a better influence on the sound.

I use the TNT CAT5 DIY spkr cable but never attempted (yet) to replace the internal wirings. So far satisfied naman ako sa resulta.  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Handyman on Jan 07, 2004 at 04:17 PM
johnlen,

nasubukan ko rin yun sir...nag improve sya..kaya lang nung mabuksan ko na, naisip ko maganda nga ang cable ko sa labas pagdating sa loob ewan ko..so pinalitan ko na...wala naman akong naging problema...
thank you.. :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Jan 08, 2004 at 02:28 AM
hamdyman...ano wires pinalitan mo? yun from cross over to speaker drivers??? wow hirap ata nun ah.. pano mo nabukas yun 8.4?? ayy..handyman ka nga pala..hehe ..pero really pano?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Jeffster on Jan 08, 2004 at 01:41 PM
newbie here at pinoydvd!

Just replaced my fronts with the 8.1s yesterday.  Thanks for the Ambassador tip.  Sila nga pinaka-mura.

I'm impressed with the sound, pero tama kayo. Kailangan nga i-break in.  Still sounds a bit stiff.  Too bad only the US models have Monster Cables inside (as claimed by their website).  

Question on the setup, do you set your receiver to SMALL or LARGE for these speakers?  diba mas maganda mag roll-off nalang naturally yung bass?  I'm using a Yamaha RX-V520.  What's the crossover point of this if you set it to small?

Thanks!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: indridcold on Jan 09, 2004 at 01:22 PM
I set them to LARGE. So far la naman problema.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 09, 2004 at 04:21 PM
Jeffster,

Small kung may sub ka so para di mahirapan 8.1 mo with the bass and just concentrate sa high and mid production..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Jeffster on Jan 09, 2004 at 09:38 PM
did some comparisons on small/large settings on the 8.1s.  Mas-full yung midrange/mid-bass at mas may-kick pag large setting.. as opposed to having the sub do all the work from 90 Hz down (eto pala cut-off sa mga yamaha receivers).  yun lang nga, di ko lang nilalaksan masyado para di ma-overwork yung speaker.. especially since hindi pa fully broken-in sila.

can't wait to buy more cable so I can bi-wire these things. :D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: johndoe on Jan 20, 2004 at 09:45 PM
nakakita na ba kayo ng wharfedale moviestar 70 speakers?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: MiniCooper on Jan 22, 2004 at 12:30 PM
did some comparisons on small/large settings on the 8.1s.  Mas-full yung midrange/mid-bass at mas may-kick pag large setting.. as opposed to having the sub do all the work from 90 Hz down (eto pala cut-off sa mga yamaha receivers).  yun lang nga, di ko lang nilalaksan masyado para di ma-overwork yung speaker.. especially since hindi pa fully broken-in sila.

can't wait to buy more cable so I can bi-wire these things. :D

jeffster, set the yamaha's front setting to LARGE for you to get more bass in the mains -- let's make good use of those kevlar cones.  ;)  try to tweak the sub by changing freq cutoff or moving it to another location.  

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: rapeez on Jan 23, 2004 at 02:37 PM
bros,

any feedback on wharfs EVO speakers?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Jan 23, 2004 at 06:58 PM
sir ganda ng evo, though i don't have one, mukhang okay sa audio setup yun.

Cheers,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Toquero on Jan 23, 2004 at 09:30 PM
jeffster, set the yamaha's front setting to LARGE for you to get more bass in the mains -- let's make good use of those kevlar cones.  ;)  try to tweak the sub by changing freq cutoff or moving it to another location.  



Yo dudes,

have you tried to combi diamond center with wH2 bipolar surround speakers. Mine kasi after  yung WH2 center ko after a week of operation bumigay yung center. Nasunog daw voice coil. Well anyway nag upgrade ako tuloy sa diamond center nung wala sila ipalit na replacement kaagad.  And mukhang marami na ring ganito ang experience as revealed sa akin ng supplier ko. My supplier mentioned to me na kung mahina na daw ang naging comibi ng diamond center sa wh2 bipolar ko which he said na I wouldexpect, i upgrade niya daw yung rear ko . Di ko maintindihan yung cnabi niya kung papano and mukhang gastos na naman iyan.
Is there anybody in the forum know how to tweak the bipolar speakers to increase sensitivity to match my diamond center?... if there's any ?.... besides changing internal wires....
Is it possible to change mthe tweeter driver to another dome type silk driver... since diamond center uses silk dome tweeters..? Any idea...

thanks...
   
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mojako on Jan 25, 2004 at 10:43 AM
If you need to change the sensitivuty of your rears try contacting Nirvblakr
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: darkwing on Jan 26, 2004 at 09:39 AM
BTW I was wondering if the Wharfedales are magnetically shielded?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Jan 26, 2004 at 09:42 AM
yes they are
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jan 26, 2004 at 09:48 AM
BTW I was wondering if the Wharfedales are magnetically shielded?

Only the 8C.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Toquero on Jan 26, 2004 at 10:04 AM
Yo bros.

Good day to all. Share ko lang sa inyo this experience of my friend re: after sales support of wharfedale speakers. I do't know if this is a the right thread to raise this issue. Pamumanhin lang po kung mali. So here it goes:

Last weekend my friend ask me re: his wh2 center speaker being defective after almost 3 months of use. He told me since I've already undergo this experience what to do if his unit is found defective. I told him that I requested a relpacement but I prefer an upgrade during that time due to stock avaialbility. Medyo mabigat nga ang dinagdag ko eh. Ganyan talaga ang buhay.... I told him to return it the store where he bought it and demand for a replacement. I think the store was in the Makati area.

So when he returned the unit to the store owner and request for a replacement medyo humble pa nga yung approach ng friend ko para yung smpathy ng owner makuha niya. The store owner told him that they will repair it na lang pero hindi irereplace kahit natanong ng friend ko na may stock sila. Medyo nag alangan yung friend ko and he called me  up to ask for advise. Sabi ko wag siyang pumayag, i-convince niya na kailangan palitan. Talking of after sales service talaga matapos kang bentahan hindi kana papansinin at pahirapan ka pa. So i made some phone calls, sa mga kakilala ko re: this problem and luckily one of my friend told me that we could go to a store in Shaw to have the unit replaced kahit hindi sa kanila nabili medyo malakas lang cguro yung friend ko sa store owner doon. Since may warranty covered naman siya. And to our amazment napalitan ito ng bago. Sabi nga ng store owner doon sa shaw pwede naman nilang ibalik sa wharfedale yun eh. ang problema daw kasi sa karamihang audio/video store owners lalo na sa makati area daw hindi sila authorized distributor nag lolocal purchase lang sila parang nagbeneta lang sila ng clone type computer parts. Tapos minsan kung malasin ka pa yung maibenta sa iyo refurbished pa.

Medyo kinabahan nga ako baka yung nabili kong reciever and speaker refubished na rin.

Mga tsong,
 May alam ba kayong mga authorized distributor list para sa wharfdale speakers. Ang hirap atang maginvest sa isang  bagay na walang kasiguruhan ang after sales support.......
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: darkwing on Jan 26, 2004 at 10:11 AM
Only the 8C.

this is the center channel? not the bookshelf ones? I'm just concerned about the magnetic radiation because I might be placing them near my TV, how far do they have to be btw?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Jan 26, 2004 at 10:13 AM
According to the manual... your fronts should be at least 7 mtrs apart.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Jan 26, 2004 at 10:18 AM
According to the manual... your fronts should be at least 7 mtrs apart.

ang layo nyan Sir  :) baka 7 feet  ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jan 26, 2004 at 10:19 AM
this is the center channel? not the bookshelf ones? I'm just concerned about the magnetic radiation because I might be placing them near my TV, how far do they have to be btw?


Yes 8c is the center channel.

I'm using 8.1, 10 inches away from TV. Less than 10" creates video distortion.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jan 26, 2004 at 11:12 AM
sir slayer tama si iceman 7 ft. lang, slayer sintomas na ng SARS yan! early stages palang ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Jan 26, 2004 at 12:13 PM
Oopppss... sorry! 7 Ft. lang.  Kung anu-ano na ty-type ko. ;D

ang layo nyan Sir  :) baka 7 feet  ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: chronic on Jan 26, 2004 at 08:18 PM
akala ko talagang 21ft + hehe
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: darkwing on Jan 26, 2004 at 09:12 PM
wow 7ft? hindi ganyan kalaki yung room ko :( paano na yung speakers ko :(
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 27, 2004 at 09:45 AM
I think that is just a recommended distance.  I've heard adequate sounding set-ups with fronts spaced only 5 fit apart.  Personally,  in a small room, your fronts and your listening couch should form an equilateral triangle at least.  So if the fronts are x-feet apart, you should also be at least x-feet from either the L or R speakers.  But this is just for starters.  Some speakers lend themselves to nearfield or farfield listening.  As long as you get the stereo imaging at your listening position.  In my case, my fronts are spaced about 9 ft apart and i am listening from about 11 ft from either.  But in my earlier room, i had much bigger speakers spaced only 6ft apart and my listening point was only about 5 ft . I get good stereo imaging from both.   Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Jan 27, 2004 at 10:39 AM
Bro,

Recommenation lang yan.  I think mine is 5ft. apart.

wow 7ft? hindi ganyan kalaki yung room ko :( paano na yung speakers ko :(
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: darkwing on Jan 27, 2004 at 12:07 PM
Cool, what does the manual say about being near TVs, monitors, perhaps there is something there about the minimum distance of the speakers to a TV?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Jan 27, 2004 at 01:31 PM
As long as walang effect sa TV.  Remember that only the 8.C are shielded. :)

Cool, what does the manual say about being near TVs, monitors, perhaps there is something there about the minimum distance of the speakers to a TV?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: rapeez on Jan 28, 2004 at 11:03 AM
i'm currently using yammy 440 and plan to buy 8.4. can my yammy drive the 8.4 at its maximum level. or better yet used 8.3 instead of 8.4. help pls.

SPECTRA confirmed that my yammy can drive the 8.4. is it true?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 28, 2004 at 11:18 AM
I don't see why not.  So many here use yammys with wharf diamonds and monitor audio.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Jan 28, 2004 at 11:20 AM
Bro,

Sent you pm.

i'm currently using yammy 440 and plan to buy 8.4. can my yammy drive the 8.4 at its maximum level. or better yet used 8.3 instead of 8.4. help pls.

SPECTRA confirmed that my yammy can drive the 8.4. is it true?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: MJ-JM on Jan 28, 2004 at 12:38 PM
i'm currently using yammy 440 and plan to buy 8.4. can my yammy drive the 8.4 at its maximum level. or better yet used 8.3 instead of 8.4. help pls.

SPECTRA confirmed that my yammy can drive the 8.4. is it true?

hi,

used to have a yammy 440 + 8.4 combo... IMHO, it can drive the wharf kaya lang nipis na ng tunog. kulang sa bass.

thanks,
htnovice
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: antukin on Jan 28, 2004 at 07:40 PM
mga kapatid!

naka 8.3, 8.1, and 8c ako na setup. ano ba pedeng bilhin for my rear center? balak ko sana e isang 8.1, kaso ala namang nabibiling isang 8.1 lang. palaging in pairs.

salamats.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 28, 2004 at 07:45 PM
Why not another 8c?

Or maybe find someone with the same need, share the cost  50-50 and split the pair between the two of you.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jan 28, 2004 at 07:46 PM
mga kapatid!

naka 8.3, 8.1, and 8c ako na setup. ano ba pedeng bilhin for my rear center? balak ko sana e isang 8.1, kaso ala namang nabibiling isang 8.1 lang. palaging in pairs.

salamats.

way to go, bro!!!!!! subs? ok ka na ba? :D :D :D :D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: antukin on Jan 28, 2004 at 07:56 PM
was about to text you bro! i got nirv's AASWF03 sub.

grabe! how did the sub fit in? may i say, it's a beermatch!  ;D

tnx sa mga tips mo bro, also sir levi and philander.

sir avphile, di ko na ata kaya ang gastos para sa isa pang 8c. maghahanap nalang ako dito ng kapareho ko ng sitwasyon. pati na rin yung wallmounts or speaker stand. hati kami. ehehehe.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 29, 2004 at 11:19 AM
was about to text you bro! i got nirv's AASWF03 sub.

grabe! how did the sub fit in? may i say, it's a beermatch!  ;D

tnx sa mga tips mo bro, also sir levi and philander.

sir avphile, di ko na ata kaya ang gastos para sa isa pang 8c. maghahanap nalang ako dito ng kapareho ko ng sitwasyon. pati na rin yung wallmounts or speaker stand. hati kami. ehehehe.

I just saw a DTX center speaker selling at 1.5T sa Buy and Sell section.  Puwede pang tawaran.  You could check that out, the timbre difference is very slight, less bright.   I had both 8c and that last year.  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: rapeez on Jan 29, 2004 at 02:43 PM
av__phile, specifically for 8.4? any idea? thx dude!

Quote from: av_phile1
link=board=10;threadid=1662;start=1140#msg301139 date=1075259904
I don't see why not.  So many here use yammys with wharf diamonds and monitor audio.
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Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: rapeez on Jan 29, 2004 at 02:50 PM
HTnovice, have you encounter any other problem aside sa manipis ang tunog? do you use sub pala? currently i have yammy RXv-440, 8C & DQ12. and now aiming to have 8.4 for fronts.

any other comment from user of combination between yammy 440 and diamond 8.4? comment pls. before i'll buy tomorrow. thx!


Quote from: HTNovice
link=board=10;threadid=1662;start=1140#msg301200 date=1075264696
hi,

used to have a yammy 440 + 8.4 combo... IMHO, it can drive the wharf kaya lang nipis na ng tunog. kulang sa bass.

thanks,
htnovice
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Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 29, 2004 at 03:21 PM
av__phile, specifically for 8.4? any idea? thx dude!

Some members favor the 8.3 over the 8.4 as the latter tends to deliver a more boomy bass courtesy of its dual woofer.  I also prefer the 8.3.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: rapeez on Jan 29, 2004 at 03:43 PM
av_phile, which means tends more boomy sound coz ido own a sub(DQ12) 8.4 + DQ12= super boomy. better yet get 8.3 + DQ12.

will you still prefer 8.3 without the the help of sub. or you are saying because i do have a sub? just asking for my ref only. thx ulit sir.


Quote from: av_phile1
link=board=10;threadid=1662;start=1160#msg301818 date=1075360908
Some members favor the 8.3 over the 8.4 as the latter tends to deliver a more boomy bass courtesy of its dual woofer.  I also prefer the 8.3.
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Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: antukin on Jan 29, 2004 at 04:10 PM
nakalagay sa manual e 65W lang ang channel ng 440. i dunno the effect of loading 8.4s dahil 2 ang woofers nya. better utilized siguro ang 8.4 kung mag uupgrade ng higher wattage na amp.

rapeez, try setting all contols to flat 0dB. yung equalizer, trebble and bass, LFE out. maybe it will minimize, if not eliminate the boominess.

ang setup ko is 8.3, 8c, and 8.1 with 440. using nirv's 10" sub with bass and volume controls set at 9 o'clock.

since i only have a small room, yung MUTE contols ng 440 ko is set to -50dB.

ito yung timpla na gusto ng tenga ko. no boominess or what so ever. maskina yung The Breaking Point episode ng BoB, talagang walang maririnig na boominess. but the depth and feel ng mga sabog is perfect for my taste. same setup will playing Hotel California ng HFO, ok na ok pa rin. no need for me to adjust from HT to music.

i have a small room, siguro ilagay mo nalang sa -20dB or off mo yung MUTE option ng 440 mo.

hope i helped a bit.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 29, 2004 at 05:01 PM
av_phile, which means tends more boomy sound coz ido own a sub(DQ12) 8.4 + DQ12= super boomy. better yet get 8.3 + DQ12.

will you still prefer 8.3 without the the help of sub. or you are saying because i do have a sub? just asking for my ref only. thx ulit sir.

I would prefer the 8.3 with or without sub.  My current MS914 has the same 2-way single woofer onfiguration and it belts good bass even without sub.  But i shouldn't compare the two as the sounds coming from either can be entirely different.  Let your ears decide,  if you want big bass sounds, the 8.4 even wihtout sub should take care of that.  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: rapeez on Jan 29, 2004 at 05:13 PM
av_phile/antukin, based on ur inputs way ahead to buy 8.3 now. :) thx a lot! ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Jan 29, 2004 at 05:20 PM
Bro,

I also suggest you go with 8.3.  The 8.4 would be to boomy for you since you already have the dq12 plus your 440 matches well with the 8.3.  Heard medyo mainipis na nga raw sound ng 8.4 with the 440.

av_phile/antukin, based on ur inputs way ahead to buy 8.3 now. :) thx a lot! ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 29, 2004 at 05:34 PM
av_phile/antukin, based on ur inputs way ahead to buy 8.3 now. :) thx a lot! ;)

You may want to bring your receiver with you to audition the wharfes and confirm what they are saying here that it sounds manipis with it.  That's what many members do when auditioning speakers.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: MJ-JM on Feb 02, 2004 at 10:47 AM
av_phile/antukin, based on ur inputs way ahead to buy 8.3 now. :) thx a lot! ;)

sir rapeez,

OT: Nice meeting you sir.. musta na AE mo sir? galing ng speakers na to kasi ganda din tumunog sa yamaha 440.. may bass kahit nakaset sa 0 lahat ng speaker settings.

HTNovice.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpOy on Feb 02, 2004 at 10:56 AM
i prefer the 8.3 over the 8.4 on audio.
 
on HT naman kaya naman kaya naman saluhin ng sub yung lower freq and a sub is important on HT, to get the low freq "FEEL"

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: rapeez on Feb 02, 2004 at 11:20 AM
sir rapeez,

OT: Nice meeting you sir.. musta na AE mo sir? galing ng speakers na to kasi ganda din tumunog sa yamaha 440.. may bass kahit nakaset sa 0 lahat ng speaker settings.

HTNovice.

HTNovice,

good to know someone was there to help/guide me out buying on good speakers, and it was you dude. Thx and nice meeting you too. nakabili ka n b? OT tayo usap tayo on the right thread.

rapeez
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: berniebau on Feb 13, 2004 at 11:35 PM
Hi all,
ano ba sa palagay nyo kung Onkyo SR500 used with Diamond 8.4??  O should I go with the 8.3??  It's rated at 65W RMS into 8ohms(2chan driven).  Pero sabi nga sa spec sheet. 6ohm amp to, for maximum power.
Would really appreciate any immediate response...
Tnx
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: mdsaint3 on Feb 14, 2004 at 02:55 AM
Baka mahirapang ang sr500 dyan.. Gagana but not as loud or will give the best potential.. used 8.3 before with same receiver, low sensitivity kasi warfs hirap ang onkyo..yun ang oservation ko. 4 8.1's mas ok :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: berniebau on Feb 14, 2004 at 08:02 AM
mdsaint,
nice.. tnx. ano na mga na try mo sa onkyo mo? you still have it?  pero paano naman yung tunog ng 8.3? dun lang kasi ko may budget.  tska nga pala more into movies ako.  I play lots of music too, pero not very particular on the details (of the sound)..
thanks,..

... any more suggestions?? all set na kasi ko to buy. even called up the store to prepare..hehe
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Feb 14, 2004 at 11:05 AM
mdsaint,
nice.. tnx. ano na mga na try mo sa onkyo mo? you still have it?  pero paano naman yung tunog ng 8.3? dun lang kasi ko may budget.  tska nga pala more into movies ako.  I play lots of music too, pero not very particular on the details (of the sound)..
thanks,..

... any more suggestions?? all set na kasi ko to buy. even called up the store to prepare..hehe

since you're more into movies, get the 8.3 and pair it with the yamaha RX-V440. you can't go wrong with this especially on movies.  for music, i've heard that the 440's are warmer than the previous x30 series of yamaha.

just a suggestion, bro. :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: zakkaz on Feb 15, 2004 at 10:13 AM
mdsaint,
nice.. tnx. ano na mga na try mo sa onkyo mo? you still have it?  pero paano naman yung tunog ng 8.3? dun lang kasi ko may budget.  tska nga pala more into movies ako.  I play lots of music too, pero not very particular on the details (of the sound)..
thanks,..

... any more suggestions?? all set na kasi ko to buy.
even called up the store to prepare..hehe

u should try d yamaha rxv440 paired with 8.3 or 8.4
try visiting spectra @ parksquare 1
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: berniebau on Feb 15, 2004 at 07:59 PM
zakkaz,kimpao,
pareho kayo ng suggestion ah.. anyway, i already have an Onkyo SR500 kasi.  btw, I already bought the 8.4.  Ok naman.. kelangan ko lang lagyan ng Bass sa tone control. kapag music depende kung ano papakinggan mo. pero kapg sa movies lalo na types of Revolutions at Two Towers..hehe kelangan mbaba lang, lalo na kapag gabi.  Although  hindi ko pa sya nilalakas ng todo kasi syempre break-in nga.  Tsaka nga pala, ngrarattle sa ibang malakas na bass, pero malamang sa kisame namin o sa tv shelf.  Any experience like this?
Thanks
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Feb 15, 2004 at 08:08 PM
yup, am also experiencing these rattling sound.  well, actually, sa ceiling ko nang gagaling. Bass output of your speakers is still weak since its still on break-in pa naman.  suggestion is try not to place them near corners as they will tend to get boomy.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: berniebau on Feb 16, 2004 at 06:34 AM
Tnx Kimpao,
dapat bibili na ko ng 8.Center kaya lang, wlang 0% interest sa Sights & Sounds. Ayoko naman i cash lahat. Next month siguro.. Tpos surrounds naman.  Ngayon kasi, component speakers gamit ko sa surrounds.. ganon din sa as center. iba-iba tunog. Sa pink noise palang yung isa "shheee"  ung iba "shhuuu" hehehe. Ano nga pala gamit mong surrounds? Ano ba ok? yung DFS o 8.1? kasi medyo sagad sa likod na pader ang sofa.. surrounds ko ngayon nasa likod ng sofa firing up, nakapatong sa kahon nung wharfes.. sometimes, magkaharap.  Salamat sa mga inputs ulit.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Feb 16, 2004 at 08:14 AM
get the center speaker first as hindi naman ganun ka critical yung surrounds. you can get the surrounds (diamond 8.1 is advisable) later on if you have the funds. for surrounds you can buy wall mounting brackets for them sa ace hardware or handyman (around 1.5k per pair).
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: PapaJom on Feb 19, 2004 at 11:42 AM
Any chance of Pacific evo series owner saw some at spectra nice design looks high end. comments and review please also learn that its price higher than MA and AE bookshelf.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: akyatbundok on Feb 19, 2004 at 12:59 PM
anybody know what speaker line from wharfedale has its tweeter contained in a B&W nautilus-like housing?  i heard it last weekend at electronics depot in robinson galeria.. i didn't get to hear the AR speaker next to it but i heard the cutomer say that the cheaper wharfedale floorstander at 18k sounds better than the piano finished AR speaker at 100k+.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Feb 19, 2004 at 01:02 PM
might be the pacific evo series...
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Feb 19, 2004 at 01:11 PM
Akyat,

Remember before with J_albert and JVm na audition namin yun Evo10 ata.. and sound is nice but i feel the amp can't give the enough power.. audition ko nga ulit hehehe.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Feb 23, 2004 at 07:26 PM
im planning to buy a nad 2-ch amp and pair it with my 8.4 for stereo set-up. is it a good combination? what do you think of its sound? will it be too boomy? any comments fellow pdvd...
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: indridcold on Feb 23, 2004 at 08:36 PM
Recently purchased lovan stands for my 8.1s. Sound dramatically improved. BAss was fuller and imaging was better. Dati kasi gamit ko stands for surrounds na medyo manipis.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 24, 2004 at 03:22 PM
im planning to buy a nad 2-ch amp and pair it with my 8.4 for stereo set-up. is it a good combination? what do you think of its sound? will it be too boomy? any comments fellow pdvd...

Don't see any reason why the combi won't work.  The warfedales are rated at 6ohms nominal so this might extract more current from the 8-ohm rated NAD which is a hi-current amp anyway.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: D0Hbert on Feb 25, 2004 at 10:47 AM
Magtatanong lang ho. I have 8.1s and a diamond center. Anyone tried using their diamond centers as main speakers? Parang mas maganda tunog nya sa 8.1s. Highs are much clearer. Tapos you have 2 4inch drivers for mids. Talo lang yung port is nasa likod. Am thinking of taking this route, using diamond centers as my main speakers. Wala masyadong bas parin, but I have separate sub for that. Medyo mahal nga lang, 2 2nd hand diamond centers will cost me 6k, malapit na sa price ng 2nd hand na 6.4s :) Any suggestions?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: BuLLeT on Feb 25, 2004 at 02:00 PM
You may go afer what pleases you most in terms of the sonic performance that you are after to. ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: van_wilder on Feb 26, 2004 at 07:43 AM
ako naman ang magtatanong din,
for dohbert,
 sir san ka nakakita ng whrf diamond center at 3k?
thanks

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: van_wilder on Feb 26, 2004 at 07:44 AM
Recently purchased lovan stands for my 8.1s. Sound dramatically improved. BAss was fuller and imaging was better. Dati kasi gamit ko stands for surrounds na medyo manipis.
where can i look at these lovan stands for the 8.1?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: indridcold on Feb 26, 2004 at 08:50 AM
parksq 1 makati bro for the stands.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Feb 26, 2004 at 09:49 AM
Indridcold,

Pre kung pwede sand filled yun stand mo lagyan mo.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Feb 26, 2004 at 12:49 PM
Don't see any reason why the combi won't work.  The warfedales are rated at 6ohms nominal so this might extract more current from the 8-ohm rated NAD which is a hi-current amp anyway.

I auditioned yesterday the wharfdale 8.4 driven by nad 320bee at sights and sound. It has a very impressive sound quality. Your right bro, nad 320bee easily drives the 8.4even though it is only rated at 50watts per channel at 8ohms.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: van_wilder on Feb 26, 2004 at 02:02 PM
parksq 1 makati bro for the stands.
thanks for the info
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: indridcold on Feb 26, 2004 at 03:27 PM
Indridcold,

Pre kung pwede sand filled yun stand mo lagyan mo.

Nalagyan ko na ng sand bro kaya lang di ko napuno. Naubusan ako e. :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 26, 2004 at 05:18 PM
I auditioned yesterday the wharfdale 8.4 driven by nad 320bee at sights and sound. It has a very impressive sound quality. Your right bro, nad 320bee easily drives the 8.4even though it is only rated at 50watts per channel at 8ohms.

The NAD is a hi-current amp and its 50watt rating can compare with many japanese amps rated twice that much but are not high-current.  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Feb 27, 2004 at 09:17 AM
av_phile,

thanx 4 d advice, i am really amaze with the combination of nad and wharfedale speakers. The sound of my 8.4 became warmer. Now, i can listen to my music anytime.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Kenneth on Feb 27, 2004 at 10:26 AM
Gud am sir. Tanong ko lang po ko affordable ung Whardale Speaker ung 8.5. Mga how much po kaya n where can i buy it. Misyado pala mahal ung nad and ba ung mas murang reciever na maganda ang quality ng sournd both for HT and music cause i love to listend to classical music. I want to hear the sound details of every bit of the intruement. Bata pa ko pangarap ko na ung magkaron ng quality music. Pero sobrang mahal talaga ng mga branded eh. Thanks so much.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: indridcold on Feb 28, 2004 at 11:25 AM
You can try the x40 line of yamaha. Go to park sq 1 makati dami stores don. As for speakers, I think the wharfs are the most practical and affordable.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: darkwing on Feb 28, 2004 at 02:34 PM
BTW How much are the 8.2s?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: dunforgiven on Mar 01, 2004 at 07:54 AM
You can try the x40 line of yamaha. Go to park sq 1 makati dami stores don. As for speakers, I think the wharfs are the most practical and affordable.

good match ba ang yamaha 440 and wharfs?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Mar 01, 2004 at 09:20 AM
Yup, as recommended by our fellow members. An entry level set up for HT, yammy or harman kardon are a good match for wharfedale speakers... just search for other threads to find out more about ht set up.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: dunforgiven on Mar 01, 2004 at 09:45 AM
Yup, as recommended by our fellow members. An entry level set up for HT, yammy or harman kardon are a good match for wharfedale speakers... just search for other threads to find out more about ht set up.
i plan to get 8.1 for my fronts and rears... ok ba ito or do i need a higher model for the fronts like 8.2, 8.3 or 8.4? i'm also considering buying a sub like DQ12 or US Audio
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: indridcold on Mar 01, 2004 at 09:51 AM
If you have a sub ok na ang 8.1. Personally I think the 8.1s are better than the 8.2s. If you plan to use the gear for music din, I suggest you grab the 8.4s.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: alexg on Mar 01, 2004 at 11:04 AM
how much are the 8.1's now? I need to get a pair and a diamond center, am converting my 5.1 to 6.1.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: dunforgiven on Mar 01, 2004 at 12:13 PM
If you have a sub ok na ang 8.1. Personally I think the 8.1s are better than the 8.2s. If you plan to use the gear for music din, I suggest you grab the 8.4s.
thanks for the advice!  :D So i'll just grab a pair of 8.1s plus a sub..... pero bakit pag gamitin ko for music 8.4 dapat ang kunin ko?

and also (OT na ito) kung 8.1, ano mas ok i-partner, dq12 or us audio na sub?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: dunforgiven on Mar 01, 2004 at 12:14 PM
how much are the 8.1's now? I need to get a pair and a diamond center, am converting my 5.1 to 6.1.

checked last saturday sa edsa shang, almost 5k ang 8.1
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ADM202E on Mar 01, 2004 at 12:27 PM
Mga Bro, matagal tagal na rin di ako nakakalog dito. Magkano na ba ang 8.4 ngaun? Im planning to buy one or better yet settle to 2nd hand A1 condition units if anyone interested to sell.

Thanks!  ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: indridcold on Mar 01, 2004 at 12:48 PM
Unless you get a velo or rel sub or some other high end sub mapapansin mo na hindi ganun kabilis sa bass yung sub when it comes to music. Kaya I suggest you get the 8.4 na may dedicated driver for the low freq ng music.
Gamit ko dati DQ12 with 8.1s. Good match. I used DIY coax cable for the sub and nilagay ko sa likod ng sofa para ramdam yung vibrations. If I'm not mistaken 8.1s awardee ng 5 stars sa What Hi Fi.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Mar 02, 2004 at 10:43 AM
Mga Bro, matagal tagal na rin di ako nakakalog dito. Magkano na ba ang 8.4 ngaun? Im planning to buy one or better yet settle to 2nd hand A1 condition units if anyone interested to sell.

Thanks!  ;)

PM mo si Nelrey, he sells wharfdale speakers i think its 8.5k or check sights and sounds sa park square 1 my nakadisplay dun na 8.4 try to audition it. Sa audio set up mo ba gagamitin ung 8.4? Am using a 2nd hand 8.4 bought from a fellow member and i use it for my audio set up.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Mar 02, 2004 at 10:49 AM
pero bakit pag gamitin ko for music 8.4 dapat ang kunin ko?

and also (OT na ito) kung 8.1, ano mas ok i-partner, dq12 or us audio na sub?

Yup, ok ang 8.4 sa music bacause of its 2 drivers u dont nid to have a sub to drive that 8.4 kase ganyan din ang gamit ko sa audio set up ko hehe...

Before, i use 8.1 and a dq-12 sa ht ko, satisfied naman ko sa combination nila.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: dunforgiven on Mar 02, 2004 at 01:04 PM
Yup, ok ang 8.4 sa music bacause of its 2 drivers u dont nid to have a sub to drive that 8.4 kase ganyan din ang gamit ko sa audio set up ko hehe...

Before, i use 8.1 and a dq-12 sa ht ko, satisfied naman ko sa combination nila.

thanks dude
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Mar 03, 2004 at 07:10 AM
Yup, ok ang 8.4 sa music bacause of its 2 drivers u dont nid to have a sub to drive that 8.4 kase ganyan din ang gamit ko sa audio set up ko hehe...

I agree with you, been using 8.4 for quite some time, hanggang -20dB palang max volume ko and 10 o'clock yung trebble and bass, yumayanig na yung paligid when listening to r&b music.

Cheers,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 03, 2004 at 09:32 AM
guys,

Kimpao and I were able to audition the Pacific Evo 10 paired with my amx EL34 tube amp and WOWOWOW!! pwede isang audition pa.. Love the very clean vocals highs are fine and tight bass.. mmmh played Stacy Kent boy next door track 1 and kimpao said yan si Stacy kent.. coz something Stacy's voice sound nasal in other speaker but i maybe wrong.. ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Mar 03, 2004 at 11:25 AM
yup, the pacific evo series (evo10)  that we've heard yesterday was not the usual wharfs that we know of. mukhang promising yung speakers (at may rosemah pa ;D). we were able to do a short audition of both evo 8 and evo 10 i might also be wrong but stacey kent really sounded stacey kent with the evo 10 speakers mukhang nag-decolgen na siya dito.  dun sa evo 8 medyo sinisipon siya.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Mar 03, 2004 at 11:48 AM
yup stacey kent sounds "ngongo" through the evo8, amp used was an hk130
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Mar 03, 2004 at 11:52 AM
i agree sir. btw, nice meeting you yesterday sir john5479  :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Mar 03, 2004 at 01:43 PM
Kailangan ko ma audition ito!! ;D

Kamusta ang body construction? Rigid na ba?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Mar 03, 2004 at 02:32 PM
sir kimpao nice meeting you as well, too bad di ako nakapunta ng mas maaga when u tested the evo10 with the tube amp. btw the evo10's construction is rigid, much better than the diamonds. i'll try to pass by later and test the evo10s wth rock cd's  8)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Mar 03, 2004 at 02:45 PM
[slayer]

bro, body construction is definitely better that the diamonds and the crystals. somehow comparable to the MAs yung body construction, rear portion of the speakers seems to be solid since cone shape yung body niya plus heavy duty binding posts somewhat similar to the dynes.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 03, 2004 at 02:53 PM
Kimpao,

Try ko ulit audition later yun Evo10.. heheh pick up ko na yun amp ko heheh ready na sya
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Mar 03, 2004 at 03:51 PM
Sayang mini-eb sana... coding ako.  :-[
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 04, 2004 at 09:32 AM
guys,

Balita ko meron na Diamond 9 series learned thru What hifi ang ganda ng design compare sa 8 series..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: dunforgiven on Mar 05, 2004 at 07:53 AM
guys,

Balita ko meron na Diamond 9 series learned thru What hifi ang ganda ng design compare sa 8 series..

how about the performance and price?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 05, 2004 at 08:50 AM
dunforgiven,

Pre no reviews yet from What hifi they only introduced the 9.1.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 08, 2004 at 09:17 AM
Guys,

Any owner of Pacific evolution 10,20, &30?? reviews and comment please.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Mar 10, 2004 at 10:52 AM
have anyone here tried to bi-wire their 8.1s using a 14 and 16 guage wires? puresonic 14(gold) for the hf and audiopro 16 (silver) for the lf (the tindera in the store told me that is was only a 12 mas malaki daw mas mabba).

ive noticed kasi that although change indeed occured to the sound output, there are certain rock cds that i play that emits a very annoying twets.... masakit na nga sa tainga e. am i in the wrong path here?

what about tweaking the 8?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Mar 10, 2004 at 11:47 AM
Guys,

Any owner of Pacific evolution 10,20, &30?? reviews and comment please.

Ahahahahahahha! ;D ;D ;D Esep-esep. Mwehehehehehe. cige ka, alam ko balak mo ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 10, 2004 at 01:28 PM
Guys,

Any owner of Pacific evolution 10,20, &30?? reviews and comment please.
(http://www.avland.co.uk/wharfedale/evo10/evo10.jpg)
(http://www.avland.co.uk/wharfedale/evoc/evoc.jpg)
(http://www.avland.co.uk/wharfedale/evo20/evo20.jpg)
(http://www.avland.co.uk/wharfedale/evo30/evo30.jpg)

(http://www.avland.co.uk/wharfedale/evoterm.jpg)
(http://www.avland.co.uk/wharfedale/evo40/top.jpg)
(http://www.avland.co.uk/wharfedale/evocone.jpg)

Saw the bookself one at Spectra but with Rosewood finish like the one pictured below and was instantly attracted to their finish and design.  The curved angled sides should greatly eliminate internal standing waves that usually attends speakers with parallel sides, making the cones less stiff.  Sharing the same Kevlar cones, they appear to be superior to the diamonds.  And, understandably, more pricey too.  Haven't heard them though.  Maybe you could try auditioning them at Spectra.

(http://www.monsieurprix.com/photosProduits/715/ME0000277715_1.gif)

This is the Evo 100 which shares the same geometry as the 10.  Just not sure which model came earlier.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Mar 10, 2004 at 03:54 PM
I think hans went to spectra today hehe 8)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 10, 2004 at 03:59 PM
have anyone here tried to bi-wire their 8.1s using a 14 and 16 guage wires? puresonic 14(gold) for the hf and audiopro 16 (silver) for the lf (the tindera in the store told me that is was only a 12 mas malaki daw mas mabba).

ive noticed kasi that although change indeed occured to the sound output, there are certain rock cds that i play that emits a very annoying twets.... masakit na nga sa tainga e. am i in the wrong path here?

what about tweaking the 8?

If i recall right, there are some diamond owners who tweaked their stuff with better grade crossover networks producing better sonics.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 10, 2004 at 04:01 PM
I think hans went to spectra today hehe 8)

Sa totoo lang, had this model been available early last year, I probably would have bought them instead of the MS. The Evo is more expensive than the MS if not mistaken.  Not that I regret getting the MS though.  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 11, 2004 at 09:33 AM
John,

Paano mo nalaman sir?? hehehe was there to audition Evo 10 & 8 my impression of the Pacific EVo series are mmmh very very very nice.  8) 8) calm with self control speaker IMHO.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Mar 11, 2004 at 09:38 AM
Hans, I passed by park square, may imemeet lang hehe, saw you at spectra with kimpao i think. ok ba sa rock yung evo 10 sir?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 11, 2004 at 09:41 AM
John,

For me sir pwede.. :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Mar 11, 2004 at 11:25 AM
Hans, I passed by park square, may imemeet lang hehe, saw you at spectra with kimpao i think. ok ba sa rock yung evo 10 sir?

Sir pwede ka nang sidekick ni mike enriquez ng "Imbestigador" Ahahahahahahaha! ;D ;D joke only sir, peace tayo :)  Thoughts on the pacific evo series. Nice on tube amps (i just hope these babies are friendly with tubes lower than 20 watts) as hans would say "swabe rin siyang tumunog". both models were driven by the el34.

hans "kaha de yero" at yan amp mong yan! >:( ang bigat pre!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Mar 11, 2004 at 11:28 AM
kimpao:nagkataon lang na nakita ko kayo doon, I usually pass by spectra pag nasa area ako. bibili na ba si hans ng evo10? hehe.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Mar 11, 2004 at 11:32 AM
actually bro, ako pa ata ang bibili. nice yung evo 8 sa tube amp.  i might audition it using my scott one of these days.  mahirap sir kasama si hans, magastos. ahahahaha! ;D sir hans peace tayooooo!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Mar 11, 2004 at 11:45 AM
mukhang sold na si hans sa wharfedale na to a.. congrats..  :D  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Mar 11, 2004 at 11:57 AM
mukhang sold na si hans sa wharfedale na to a.. congrats..  :D  ;D

sir may pm ka pre!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Mar 12, 2004 at 07:33 AM
hans congrats sa bago mong toy sana mastress test na natin tsaka marami thank sa paghatid mo hehehe sana huli na nga yan pagpalit mo gwaping ganda  ;D ;D ;D

kimpao bili ka na Evo 8 wag lang uli ako bigyan pagkakataon hehehehe thank din sa iyo kung dahil sa iyo napunta sa ibang kamay isang mahalagang gamit ni hans
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Mar 12, 2004 at 08:31 AM
hans congrats sa bago mong toy sana mastress test na natin tsaka marami thank sa paghatid mo hehehe sana huli na nga yan pagpalit mo gwaping ganda  ;D ;D ;D

congrats Hans.. stress test na agad yan..  ;D  :D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Mar 12, 2004 at 08:42 AM

kimpao bili ka na Evo 8 wag lang uli ako bigyan pagkakataon hehehehe thank din sa iyo kung dahil sa iyo napunta sa ibang kamay isang mahalagang gamit ni hans

uuuyyy - mukhang may bagong may ari ng B4 ah  :D :D congrats pare - samahan mo na ng hafler  ;D ;D

naka pacific ka na Hans? (para wag ma OT)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Mar 12, 2004 at 10:39 AM
congrats sa mga may bagong laruan. ;D mga di naka-log in, sigurado mga puyat ;D ;D ;D ;D.  

OT, salbahe ka j_albert, pinuyat mo ko ng husto >:( diyan. Ahehehehehe, joke only!!!!!  ;D ;D

Rosemah ba ang nakuha? Ganda niyan.

IMO, i think this would be another contender for MS, MA, and AE.  Nice looks and yet has a clean sound.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Mar 12, 2004 at 12:20 PM
price quote naman dyan mga dre for the evo series.  ganda ng pics e.....
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Mar 12, 2004 at 12:27 PM
yup rosemah hirap nang walang tulog advice ko nga medyo taasan yong spacer sa baba para mas lalong elegant tignan hehehe St president maraming salamat meron naman tayong pagkakaabalahan hehehe
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Mar 12, 2004 at 12:28 PM
price quote naman dyan mga dre for the evo series.  ganda ng pics e.....

pre di lang ganda nang pic mamamangha ka rin kapag tumunog :o :o
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 12, 2004 at 02:09 PM
Is it the Evo 100 series or the 10 series at Spectra? If not mistaken they look identical.  What's the price tag for a 2-way floorstander?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: dunforgiven on Mar 12, 2004 at 02:48 PM
Tanong lang po: which would be better...

8.1 and subwoofer or 8.4 and subwoofer? mararamdaman ba ang difference between 8.4 and 8.1 kung may subwoofer naman? for home theater use po ito.

thanks
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Mar 12, 2004 at 02:57 PM
Huling huli na talaga ako sa balita.  Anong bagong laruan ni Hans?!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Mar 12, 2004 at 03:33 PM
congrats sa mga may bagong laruan. ;D di naka-log in, sigurado mga puyat ;D ;D ;D ;D.  


OT Pao malamang bukas nangangalumata si hans hindi naglog-in ngayon di naparamdam  ;D ;D ;D cguro tulog pa hanggang ngayon hehehe  ;D

pre mas maganda talaga ung mabigat at di gumagalaw ung speaker mas maganda rolling nung bass kaya hanap na ko nang marble sa raon and do our project :D ano kaya maganda kulay sana may mahanap akong Black marble ;D 10'X12' by 1inch ang kapal pwede na ba yon....... ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: 7Even on Mar 12, 2004 at 03:43 PM
Para san yung marble?


OT Pao malamang bukas nangangalumata si hans hindi naglog-in ngayon di naparamdam  ;D ;D ;D cguro tulog pa hanggang ngayon hehehe  ;D

pre mas maganda talaga ung mabigat at di gumagalaw ung speaker mas maganda rolling nung bass kaya hanap na ko nang marble sa raon and do our project :D ano kaya maganda kulay sana may mahanap akong Black marble ;D 10'X12' by 1inch ang kapal pwede na ba yon....... ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Mar 12, 2004 at 03:52 PM
pre pabigat lang at para di gaano magvibrate, don ko ituturnilyo ung speaker at spike footing ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: 7Even on Mar 12, 2004 at 04:48 PM
Aahhh..........


pre pabigat lang at para di gaano magvibrate, don ko ituturnilyo ung speaker at spike footing ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: p.dividdy2 on Mar 13, 2004 at 05:19 AM
Tanong lang po: which would be better...

8.1 and subwoofer or 8.4 and subwoofer? mararamdaman ba ang difference between 8.4 and 8.1 kung may subwoofer naman? for home theater use po ito.

thanks

i think ok na ang 8.1 and a sub...  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Mar 13, 2004 at 05:22 AM
Hans parang kailan lan yung B4 mo ah, heard it perform pa nga, mukhang iba dating ng Evo ha.

Cheers,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: akyatbundok on Mar 14, 2004 at 12:49 PM
pacific evo 30
(http://203.131.66.146:8080/pac1.jpg)

driven by scott 222a
(http://203.131.66.146:8080/pac3.jpg)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: akyatbundok on Mar 14, 2004 at 12:54 PM
evo 30 / b4 shootout!

(http://203.131.66.146:8080/pac2.jpg)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Mar 14, 2004 at 01:36 PM
hmnn wonder how the evo30 sounds with han's el34 amp ::)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Mar 14, 2004 at 02:04 PM
evo 30 / b4 shootout!

(http://203.131.66.146:8080/pac2.jpg)

ang pogi pala naman ng pacific evo 30.. no wonder kaya nagpalit si kuya..  ;D  :D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Mar 14, 2004 at 02:23 PM
I saw sa website that you can order the evo series in gloss piano black...hmmn ganda siguro ng evo10s in piano black ::)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: akyatbundok on Mar 14, 2004 at 02:54 PM
on the wharfedale website it says:

"The PACIFIC EVOLUTION-30 has beaten all the leading competitors in a star-studded supertest shoot-out from What Hi-Fi Magazine. Not only that, it is the only product awarded the illustrious 5 stars!"

i think i've found the review (http://www.smarthouse.com.au/articlesbytopic/hi-fiandsound/speakers/1313?print=1).

the roster looks star-studded alright:
- AAD E48
- KEF Q5  :o
- Mission m53  :o
- Monitor Audio S6  :o
- Rega Ela
- Wharfedale Pacific Evo 30

interesting tidbit -- the review says the same design team behind loudspeaker of the year Quad 11L is also responsible for the Pacific Evo 30.

and it's confirmed, the finish is real wood veneer!  kaya pala naisip namin ang galing naman ng imitation nito, wala man lang tiklop sa ilalim, yun pala totoong kahoy.  the vinyl wraps usually meet at the bottom. ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Mar 14, 2004 at 02:57 PM
yup confirmed, you can order these babies in piano finish  8)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 14, 2004 at 05:20 PM
Guys,

Thanks.. we were able to listen to the pacific evo 30 (biglaan) together with Kimpao (host..ess), Narayan, Akyatbundok, Nels76 and J_albert.. yesterday and okie naman ang result..

Akyat,

Galing mo talaga mag-picture sir!!

John,

Kung pwede piano finish naku order na sir..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Mar 14, 2004 at 06:41 PM
maraming thank's kay kimpao 4 hostestt ayyyyy hosting pala sarap nang spagettiiiiiiii pababa tsaka ala kenny roger's homemade fried chicken at higit sa lahat di gaganda ang kwentuhan pag walang gulamannnnnnnn hhehehehehe ;D ;D sana maulit muli  ;) ;) ;)

good news din para kay nels gumana na uli sony nya live and kicking ;D ;D ;D ;D congrat enjoy the music rock your house  ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 14, 2004 at 06:46 PM
J_albert,

OO nga buti naman at okie na sony ni Nels76 (golden ears) hehehe peace..

Kimpao,

Salamat sa gulaman di mapigil.. hehehe
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Mar 14, 2004 at 07:15 PM
sir hanstxt mo ko kung tuloy ka kina john sama ko malapit sa amin yon
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Mar 14, 2004 at 08:59 PM
kaya ang sigaw ng bayan "PACIFIC EVO na tayoooooo"!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D

Opssss, kung ako ang ST president at si Sebman ang vice, si Hans naman and Exec. Secretary  ;D ;D. Lumalaki na ang union. ;D

Congrats kay Nels76! Alive and kicking nanaman ang Sony niya "Raise the Roof" nanaman.

Kuya Hans, ganda talaga ng Evo 30. Bagay na bagay sa sala ko. napa-isip tuloy ako ngayon kung upgrade na ba kaagad ng HT speakers pero bili muna ako ng tube amp uli. ;D ;D ;D

IMHO, i'd say this is definitely a contender.  Solid construction (as in solid), nice mids and highs, tight bass.  What else can you ask for. Definitely, bang for the buck.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Mar 14, 2004 at 09:17 PM
balimbing ka ha....... bago lang yon nagsasawa ka na rin ba sa B4?........nahawaan ka na rin ni kuya HAns hehehe maraming mag aampon nang B4 mo
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Mar 14, 2004 at 09:23 PM
Shhhhhhhh!!!! Wag ka maingay!!! Dahil pareho ako meron MA at Wharf dito (yun nga lang crystals). B4 ko?!!!! di ko paaampon yan!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Mar 14, 2004 at 09:32 PM
patay ka uulanin ka ngayon nang PM hehehehe tatanungin kung bibitawan mo na yang B4 mo  ;D ;D
OT ganda nung CD mo TOTO linis nang tunog pre yong Jazz ni sir obet ha don't forget me ;D ;Dhinahanap ko yong tunog e
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Narayan on Mar 14, 2004 at 10:05 PM

Kuya Hans, ganda talaga ng Evo 30. Bagay na bagay sa sala ko. napa-isip tuloy ako ngayon kung upgrade na ba kaagad ng HT speakers pero bili muna ako ng tube amp uli. ;D ;D ;D

IMHO, i'd say this is definitely a contender.  Solid construction (as in solid), nice mids and highs, tight bass.  What else can you ask for. Definitely, bang for the buck.


totally agree bro... great looks and sound :D biro mo tinalo pa ang MA S6 :o

btw, bro kimpao, thanks for being an excellent host...wag mo lang kalimutan yung order ng pila dun sa scott ha ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Mar 14, 2004 at 10:11 PM
totally agree bro... great looks and sound :D biro mo tinalo pa ang MA S6 :o

btw, bro kimpao, thanks for being an excellent host...wag mo lang kalimutan yung order ng pila dun sa scott ha ;D ;D ;D

sir mapapasaiyo yan pag nabili na yong Scott 299 hehehe kim peace tayo hehehe bili na lam ko nahawa ka kay Hans....
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: nels76 on Mar 15, 2004 at 12:19 AM
Uy, huli na pala ako sa posting.  :o

Nag-post na pala mga excited. Lalong lalo na iyong trendsetter. May bago nanaman siyang toy. This time it's a Warf Pacific Evo 30.

Congrats Hans!!!.  ;) Follow the leader nanaman.

Baka magkabentahan nanaman ng mga speakers.


Kimpao,

Sarap spags and Chicken (Tama si J_albert - ala K.R.)
May gulaman pa sa gabi at overlooking sa B4 over the window. Parang nasa loob ng bahay ni kimpao si jheena while we were having gulaman outside.

Thanks Kimpao for hosting.

Ganda setup.

Rotel HDCD - Scott - B4. yum yum yum.

And the HT. Pre, you do not need Bass Shakers. Your DQ12 was shaking the room. May libre masahe sa "behind".

itaas mo gulaman.  

And Yes. SONY ES is alive and kicking. Thanks to joan2's advice and free fuse. Pati na rin kay j_albert.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Mar 15, 2004 at 12:25 AM
thanks pre, you guys are always welcome sa house. :)

Ganda talaga nung bagong toy! :o Sayang dapat pala dinamihan ko pa yung gulaman ni hans para yung B4 ang nai-uwi hindi yung EVO. ;D ;D ;D

Hans,

peace tayoooooo!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: nels76 on Mar 15, 2004 at 12:35 AM
Kim,

gising ka pa?

Pinagpupuyatan mo nanaman iyang Rotel - Scott - B4 mo ha.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Mar 15, 2004 at 12:49 AM
Tumpak ka dun sir! dinala ko na nga yung laptop sa sala. ahehehehehehe. Sarap makinig, pampatulog baga.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Mar 15, 2004 at 12:56 AM

Ganda talaga nung bagong toy! :o Sayang dapat pala dinamihan ko pa yung gulaman ni hans para yung B4 ang nai-uwi hindi yung EVO. ;D ;D ;D



kaya nagcguro c hans maaga pa e pack up na  ;D ;Dhehehehe ;D ;D ayaw madagdagan ung scratch
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 15, 2004 at 09:21 AM
Kimpao,

Sir ganda pala crystals mo for HT tapos yun bass na kaka.. ang galing.. kahit sa middle kami ni Nels golden ears eh feel na feel mo..


pssst.. bili na ng evo 8..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Mar 15, 2004 at 09:39 AM
sayang nde ako nakasama..  :-[ pero d bale sana magkaroon ng part 2..  ;D  :D gulamanan na ulit..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: dunforgiven on Mar 15, 2004 at 09:51 AM
magkano evo 8 and evo 10?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 15, 2004 at 09:56 AM
You guys should start a new thread on Wharfedale Evolution so as not to crowd out those discussing about the diamonds.  What do you think?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: dunforgiven on Mar 15, 2004 at 10:00 AM
oo nga, kasi i'm still all in for the diamonds
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 15, 2004 at 10:20 AM
Dunforgiven,

Pre Evo 8 12+++, Evo 10 15,+++ ata kindly check out spectra sir..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: dunforgiven on Mar 15, 2004 at 10:24 AM
Dunforgiven,

Pre Evo 8 12+++, Evo 10 15,+++ ata kindly check out spectra sir..

thanks a lot hans! i guess that settles it for me, hanggang diamonds lang talaga ang budget ko  :'(
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 15, 2004 at 10:34 AM
Guys,

Try to give Diamond 8.1 another listen now paired with a tube amp and wowow soundwise ibang iba pwede mo ilaban side by side sa much higher price speaker

dunforgiven,

sir building a HT ba o separate audio??
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 15, 2004 at 10:43 AM
Dunforgiven,

Pre Evo 8 12+++, Evo 10 15,+++ ata kindly check out spectra sir..

Is the evo 10 a floorstander, 2 way?  Is it the same as the evo 100?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: voj on Mar 15, 2004 at 10:43 AM
You guys should start a new thread on Wharfedale Evolution so as not to crowd out those discussing about the diamonds.  What do you think?

I'm sure it will be merged again to this thread.  Imagine kung lahat ng model ng speakers, receivers, etc will have their own thread.  Dagdag trabaho lang sa mga moderator.  Baka naman...
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 15, 2004 at 10:47 AM
avphile,

Pre evo 8 and 10 - bookshelf
      evo 20, 30 & 40 floorstanders naman
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 15, 2004 at 10:51 AM
I'm sure it will be merged again to this thread.  Imagine kung lahat ng model ng speakers, receivers, etc will have their own thread.  Dagdag trabaho lang sa mga moderator.  Baka naman...

I have no problem with that.  Maybe the title of the thread should just be Wharfedale speakers, without naming a series.  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 15, 2004 at 10:51 AM
avphile,

Pre evo 8 and 10 - bookshelf
      evo 20, 30 & 40 floorstanders naman

Any idea how much a two way florstander cost?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: dunforgiven on Mar 15, 2004 at 10:52 AM
Guys,

Try to give Diamond 8.1 another listen now paired with a tube amp and wowow soundwise ibang iba pwede mo ilaban side by side sa much higher price speaker

dunforgiven,

sir building a HT ba o separate audio??

hans, i'm planning to build an HT.... i was already inclined on buying 8.1 or 8.4 pero biglang pumasok sa thread yung mga evo. pero based on pricing, i don't have any choice.

malaki ba kaibahan ng evo sa diamonds?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 15, 2004 at 12:41 PM
dunforgiven,

Syempre naman sir kung tight budget you can get 4 pcs 8.1 and center for sub pwede na DQ12 or US audio. tapos get HK AVR.. yan setup na yan HT and Audio ok na ok sir will rock your house 100% sure ako.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 15, 2004 at 12:47 PM
avphile,

Pre EVo 20 - P 19+++
      EVo 30 - P 25+++
      Evo 40 - P 30+++

pre for exact pricing call spectra I know may discount pa yan..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: dunforgiven on Mar 15, 2004 at 12:54 PM
dunforgiven,

Syempre naman sir kung tight budget you can get 4 pcs 8.1 and center for sub pwede na DQ12 or US audio. tapos get HK AVR.. yan setup na yan HT and Audio ok na ok sir will rock your house 100% sure ako.

sir hans, may nagpost na kung gusto ko rin daw gamitin yung setup ko sa audio, hindi dapat 8.1 ang bilhin ko.... dapat daw 8.4 for the fronts. what do you think?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 15, 2004 at 12:58 PM
dunforgiven,

Pre kung may extra pa go for 8.3 than 8.4 pero minsan depend on your room baka kasi ma-over sa bass kung 8.4 tsaka may sub ka naman so 8.3 will be fine..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: dunforgiven on Mar 15, 2004 at 01:00 PM
dunforgiven,

Pre kung may extra pa go for 8.3 than 8.4 pero minsan depend on your room baka kasi ma-over sa bass kung 8.4 tsaka may sub ka naman so 8.3 will be fine..

ayos! salamat ulit!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Mar 15, 2004 at 01:01 PM
Tama si idol Hans. ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Mar 15, 2004 at 01:31 PM
I think the thread should be renamed Wharfedale Speakers instead, rather than creating a new thread.

kaya ang sigaw na ngayon "PACIFIC EVO tayoooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



balimbing talaga. Ahehehehehe

slayer,

ano hinihintay, bili na! 8)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Mar 15, 2004 at 01:35 PM
hmmmn pacific evo10 in piano black finish  8)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Mar 15, 2004 at 01:36 PM
hmmmn pacific evo10 in piano black finish  8)

Ganda yan sir! Order kaagad! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 15, 2004 at 01:53 PM
I think the thread should be renamed Wharfedale Speakers instead, rather than creating a new thread.

kaya ang sigaw na ngayon "PACIFIC EVO tayoooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



balimbing talaga. Ahehehehehe

slayer,

ano hinihintay, bili na! 8)

The Pacific Evo seems to be the "Flavor of the month"  Dati yung MS.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Mar 15, 2004 at 01:54 PM
The Pacific Evo seems to be the "Flavor of the month"  Dati yung MS.

Sir av_phile1,

upgrade ka na rin ba? 8)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Mar 15, 2004 at 01:56 PM
The Pacific Evo seems to be the "Flavor of the month"  Dati yung MS.

to some maybe  ;D but i've been eyeing these speakers. I'll wait for my amps to be finished and then test the evo10's with them. thats the time i'll decide if i'll get them 8)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 15, 2004 at 02:02 PM
Sir av_phile1,

upgrade ka na rin ba? 8)

Nope.  Like i said in one of my previous post, had i seen this model first last year, i would have gotten it instead of the MS.  But having done so, I don't consider it an upgrade to go from MS Declaration to Wharfedale Evolution.  I am just entertaining some bad thoughts of getting an ALTERNATE speaker set.  ;D  Maybe as a replacement, but not an upgrade.  I have to be convinced first the evo sounds better.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: akyatbundok on Mar 15, 2004 at 02:02 PM
john5479,

in case u decide to order piano black, could you post how much dearer than ordinary wood veneer?

baka maka mura kung may sasabay... evo 8 naman ako, but have to compare side-by-side with AE first...  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Mar 15, 2004 at 02:04 PM
akyat, initial quotation is plus 1.5k daw. but to me if the evo 10's match my amps i might take the hit  :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: akyatbundok on Mar 15, 2004 at 02:06 PM
1.5k isn't bad at all, i was expecting a 25% premium as stated in a UK website.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Mar 15, 2004 at 02:08 PM
well i hope its correct  :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Mar 15, 2004 at 02:24 PM
Nope.  Like i said in one of my previous post, had i seen this model first last year, i would have gotten it instead of the MS.  But having done so, I don't consider it an upgrade to go from MS Declaration to Wharfedale Evolution.  I am just entertaining some bad thoughts of getting an ALTERNATE speaker set.  ;D  Maybe as a replacement, but not an upgrade.  I have to be convinced first the evo sounds better.

sabagay kanya-kanyang preference yan ::) anyway, tuloy ang ligaya. Ahehehehehe
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Mar 15, 2004 at 07:55 PM
sabagay kanya-kanyang preference yan ::) anyway, tuloy ang ligaya. Ahehehehehe


kung san ka maligaya suportahan taka ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 16, 2004 at 09:06 AM
Guys,

Flavor of the month?? hehehehe di naman siguro..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Qman on Mar 17, 2004 at 04:22 AM
senyors

eto ba lumabas na sa pinas?  opus

(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/OPUS14.jpg)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: nels76 on Mar 17, 2004 at 05:10 AM
Wowow. :o Angporma ng OPUS na iyan. Seems like paper cone lang siya. But the finish is very good.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Mar 17, 2004 at 08:26 AM
the drivers for the opus are either carbon fiber or kevlar, its an expensive line i think with its price range at par with the b&w nt floorstanders
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 17, 2004 at 08:51 AM
Qman,

Per order basis ata Opus.. pacific evo series are limited stock din..  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Mar 17, 2004 at 11:01 AM
opus is per order basis as what i've read in their website cost would be 2.5k to 3k USD. Mahal!!!!!! :-\
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 17, 2004 at 11:40 AM
Kimpao,


Ganda naman yan Opus pre.. order ka na piano finish wowow.. ilan araw kaya transit nyan.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Mar 17, 2004 at 12:25 PM
kuya hans,

buwan yung bibilangin diyan sa transit, puwera nalangkung ikaw pupunta sa uk tapos dun mo bilihin tapos uwi kaagad. Ahehehehehe ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 17, 2004 at 12:29 PM
ST kimpao,

Pre di kaya 100x ang mahal nun opus ko pagnakataon hehehe kasi yun air fare ko + fare nun Opus.. hahaha
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Mar 17, 2004 at 12:31 PM
mas makatipid kung oneway lang yung airfare (papunta dun sa uk). Bili ka sagwan para yung opus sakyan na lang pabalik sa pinas tutal hugis bangka naman siya ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 17, 2004 at 12:34 PM
ST kimpao,


Sino na kaya meron Pacific EVo series dito... naku baka ako lang  :'( :'(  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Mar 17, 2004 at 12:39 PM
Sir ikaw lang, ayaw mo nun ikaw lang ang nagkamali. Ahahahahaha ;D ;D ;D ;D joke only sir, peace tayo!!!!!!!......

seriously, am planning on getting a pair of these "babies" (bookshelf, evo 8) before early next month for my 2 channel audiosetup (additional speaker kung baga). Nice sound talaga sir, been having sleepless nights because of these "babies". :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 17, 2004 at 12:45 PM
ST kimpao,

Buy ka na sir para dalawa na tayo....... nagkamali??? I don't thinks so. ;D 8)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Qman on Mar 17, 2004 at 01:38 PM
mahal pala ang opus at limited pa rin ang mga review nya.

Hans, me wharf din sa Malaysia mas mura pamasahe doon  ;D  available siguro iyon opus doon

OT, hows your EVO sa tube mo
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Mar 17, 2004 at 03:31 PM
hayaan mo hans next month "magkakamali" rin akong bumili ng evo 10 hehe 8) baka rosewood na lang bilhin ko
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: cousin skeeter on Mar 17, 2004 at 08:42 PM
psssst, magkano evo ngayon?  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Mar 17, 2004 at 11:30 PM
psssst, magkano evo ngayon?  ::) ::) ::)

evo 8 - 12k plus
evo 10 - 18k plus
evo 20 - 20 to 23 (not so sure
evo 30 - 25k plus

try to visit spectra so they could give you the exact figures. bili na cousin skeeter para medyo maramirami tayong magkakamali......i don't think so ;D ;D ;D 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Mar 18, 2004 at 08:45 AM
ST kimpao,

Buy ka na sir para dalawa na tayo....... nagkamali??? I don't thinks so. ;D 8)

paano sasabihing nagkamali kayo - eh pera nyo gamit nyo  ;)

maganda nga yan eh, dami na tayo flavor na madidinig - sana maisama ko barkada ko na kumuha ng AE Evo1 sa susunod... kailan ba?

naintindihan ko na yata kung ano yang gulaman  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 18, 2004 at 08:53 AM
Iceman,

Alam ko magugustuhan mo yun gulaman pre.. pssst pag next gulamanan.......  este session pala eh advise kita..


Pinsan Skeeter,

yun price na mention is ST kimpao may discount pa yan sir..

John, & ST kimpao,

sana naman para di ako lonely... ;D ;D

Qman,

Malaysia...Uy pwede...  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Mar 18, 2004 at 10:44 AM
Iceman,

Alam ko magugustuhan mo yun gulaman pre.. pssst pag next gulamanan.......  este session pala eh advise kita..


Pinsan Skeeter,

yun price na mention is ST kimpao may discount pa yan sir..

John, & ST kimpao,

sana naman para di ako lonely... ;D ;D

Qman,

Malaysia...Uy pwede...  

Kuya Hans,

As I said ityempo k yung pagbili a couple of days before the holy week para pag-bakasyon may pinagkaka-abalahan ako. Mwehehehehehehe. EVO 8 moi guwapito talaga yung looks para sa bookshelf, ganda pa tumunog.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Mar 18, 2004 at 11:09 AM
bili ka na para pagdating ng Holy Week - break in na di ba?  ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Mar 18, 2004 at 02:43 PM
matanong ko lang mga bro bgo tyo mag evo uli, is the diamond 8 center magnetically shielded? i just rmembered kasi, the 1st time i plced my 8 above my tv nagkaroon ng discoloration yung tv e, a sign na my magnetic interruption ryt?

pls help baka mawalan ako ng monitor nito kayo din.... hehehe.

thnax.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Mar 18, 2004 at 03:20 PM
is the diamond 8 center magnetically shielded?

thnax.

YES.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Mar 19, 2004 at 07:12 AM
Kuya Hans,

As I said ityempo k yung pagbili a couple of days before the holy week para pag-bakasyon may pinagkaka-abalahan ako. Mwehehehehehehe. EVO 8 moi guwapito talaga yung looks para sa bookshelf, ganda pa tumunog.


Cge bili na para dyan tayo magbakasyon ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 19, 2004 at 09:13 AM
wanderlust,

Magnetically shielded po diamond center
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 19, 2004 at 11:15 AM
Just visited Spectra yesterday looking for power amps and got a closer look and feel of the evo bookshelfs.  Seems they share the same kevlar drivers as diamonds.  The cabinet design and construction as well as the speakers terminals appear more robust though. Spectra apparently doesn't carry floorstanders in their inventory, on orders only.  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Mar 19, 2004 at 11:42 AM
yep same drivers, but i feel the new cabinet is more appropriate and maximizes the driver's performance. I bet jim of spectra was surprised on how these babies performed 8)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Mar 19, 2004 at 11:45 AM
yep, john5479. sounded great with tubes.  cabinet construction did made a great difference, tighter bass response which is somehow evident.  si jim ::), to the point na nagkamot ng ulo at napangiti. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: juneaki on Mar 19, 2004 at 12:15 PM
Mga bro, meron ba gumagamit ng wharfe atlantic sa inyo? Nabasa ko kasi sa mga reviews na maganda raw sa music ang mga speakers na ito. Accordingly, the atlantic 400 and 500 can go to 92-93 dB per watt in terms of efficiency. Baka namimili din ng AVR? Mine is onkyo tx-dr 484.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 19, 2004 at 04:40 PM
Kimpao, & John,

Kahit ako sir still amazed with my Pacific EVo30.. out of the box detail high & mid you'll love tapos bass just right..  8)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 19, 2004 at 04:41 PM
juneaki,

yun friend ko own valdus naman match with his HK avr.. pero atlantic.. sino kaya meron.??
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Mar 20, 2004 at 01:44 AM
Kimpao, & John,

Kahit ako sir still amazed with my Pacific EVo30.. out of the box detail high & mid you'll love tapos bass just right..  8)
hans, since one wek old na yung evo30 pwede ikabit sa hafler yan ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Mar 20, 2004 at 02:01 PM
hans, since one wek old na yung evo30 pwede ikabit sa hafler yan ;D ;D ;D

Onggiiiiiiiiii masusubukan din yan sa next session hehehehe
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 20, 2004 at 05:59 PM
J_albert,

Naku sir.... wag na magrequest at baka madagdagan yun tama.. huhuhuh  ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: nels76 on Mar 21, 2004 at 02:29 PM
Hans,

Oo ngi naman. Baka hindi pa talaga natin naririnig potential niyan.

Malay mo lalo ka ma-impress 'pag kinabit sa hafler. ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Mar 21, 2004 at 03:34 PM
Hans,

Oo ngi naman. Baka hindi pa talaga natin naririnig potential niyan.

Malay mo lalo ka ma-impress 'pag kinabit sa hafler. ;D

kaya ang sigaw namin

HAFLER + WHARFEDALE  ;D ;DHAFLER + WHARFEDALE  ;D ;DHAFLER + WHARFEDALE  ;D ;DHAFLER + WHARFEDALE  ;D ;DHAFLER + WHARFEDALE  ;D ;D
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Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Mar 21, 2004 at 04:37 PM
kaya ang sigaw namin

HAFLER + WHARFEDALE  ;D ;DHAFLER + WHARFEDALE  ;D ;DHAFLER + WHARFEDALE  ;D ;DHAFLER + WHARFEDALE  ;D ;DHAFLER + WHARFEDALE  ;D ;D
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balimbing ka rin pala ;D ;D talagang dapat magsama-sama tayo. ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Mar 21, 2004 at 04:47 PM
di naman meron lang akong gustong malaman nakakaintriga lang po manay ST kimpao ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Mar 21, 2004 at 11:20 PM
tsk tsk tsk ano nanaman yan, pre ::)

di ko sure pre, medyo magulo isip ko ngayon.  unahin ko muna evo 8 then the tube amp. di ko malaman kung upgrade ba o additional amp para may choices ako, hirap, pre. :-\
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Mar 21, 2004 at 11:59 PM
I auditioned the evo10's with an all NAD setup, unfortunately i wasn't impressed, it sounded ok at low volumes but once we turned it up, parang sumisigaw, might have been because its not broken in or hindi lang talaga match ::)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Mar 22, 2004 at 12:40 AM
I auditioned the evo10's with an all NAD setup, unfortunately i wasn't impressed, it sounded ok at low volumes but once we turned it up, parang sumisigaw, might have been because its not broken in or hindi lang talaga match ::)

hans and i also experienced the same with the evo10 paired with the NAD. sir john an dun pa ba yung evo8 na rosewood? :-\ :-\
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Mar 22, 2004 at 07:54 AM
kimpao, the rosewood evo8 is still there, have u tried it with the scott?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Mar 22, 2004 at 08:56 AM
kimpao, teh rosewood evo8 is still there, have u tried it with the scott?

we were able to try hans' evo 30 with the scott, tad difference on mids and highs compared with the b4, bass, it was understandable that the b4 excelled in this category since the evo30's were not broken-in yet.  :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Mar 22, 2004 at 10:13 AM
we were able to try hans' evo 30 with the scott, tad difference on mids and highs compared with the b4, bass, it was understandable that the b4 excelled in this category since the evo30's were not broken-in yet.  :)



galing talaga ni ST president a proud owner of B4 kaya si hans parang nagsisisi tuloy :P wag ganyan hinay hinay lang baka mapaiyak na yon  ;D ;D ;D

peace tayo bro ha ;D ;D ;D ;D mag gulaman na lang tayo masarap magkwetuhan pag may kaharap na gulaman  :o ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Mar 22, 2004 at 10:48 AM
gulaman.. gulaman.. gulaman.... uhaw na uhaw na ako.. kelan ba mauulit yun..  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Mar 22, 2004 at 10:58 AM
galing talaga ni ST president a proud owner of B4 kaya si hans parang nagsisisi tuloy :P wag ganyan hinay hinay lang baka mapaiyak na yon  ;D ;D ;D

peace tayo bro ha ;D ;D ;D ;D mag gulaman na lang tayo masarap magkwetuhan pag may kaharap na gulaman  :o ;D ;D

kayo talaga! ;D di pa broken in yung evo 30 panay na ang pintas. ahahahhahahaa! ;D ;D IMHO, di pa broken-in yung evo 30 kaya ala pa gaano bass.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Mar 22, 2004 at 11:02 AM
 ;D ;D ;D kaya di pa naglolog yon puyat na naman hehehehe
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Mar 22, 2004 at 11:07 AM
kayo talaga! ;D di pa broken in yung evo 30 panay na ang pintas. ahahahhahahaa! ;D ;D IMHO, di pa broken-in yung evo 30 kaya ala pa gaano bass.

wait for the rubber surrounds and kevlar cones to loosen up, tsaka magcompare, partida na yung B4 na fully broken in  ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Mar 22, 2004 at 12:58 PM
YES.

thank you, i could now rest in peace.....
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Mar 22, 2004 at 01:00 PM
wanderlust,

Magnetically shielded po diamond center

marami pong salamat , sa uulitin.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 23, 2004 at 09:02 AM
Guys,

Excited naman kayo... hehehehe teka gulaman muna..


ST Kimpao,

pre kuha na ng Evo8.

J_albert,

Mukhang mapapahiya yun alaga ko sa alaga mo sir.. sino ba dating nagtraining dyan.. hehehe
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 23, 2004 at 09:08 AM
J-albert,

Sir i was at Cabanatuan yesterday kaya di naka-log in.. hehehehe.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Mar 23, 2004 at 10:16 AM
hmmn bakit kaya ganun, the evo10 didn't sound good on a all nad system ???
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 24, 2004 at 09:05 AM
John,


same here... high current naman yun NAD mmmh.  ???
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Mar 24, 2004 at 04:14 PM
Hans,

Na testing na ba yang evo30 mo sa HK? ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 25, 2004 at 09:11 AM
slayer,

Pre wasn't able to try with my HK pero sa spectra meron naman HK and Pacific Evo dun pwede mo audition sir..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Mar 25, 2004 at 09:41 AM
Salamas ;D

slayer,

Pre wasn't able to try with my HK pero sa spectra meron naman HK and Pacific Evo dun pwede mo audition sir..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 25, 2004 at 09:41 AM
Guys,

I was at spectra yesterday to help a friend... diamond 8.3 yun buy nya.. ganda pala yun sa Hafler ko.. detail and bass you'll love kahit wlang sub..


8.3 owner talaga bang may plint yun??
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Mar 25, 2004 at 09:45 AM
plint?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Mar 25, 2004 at 09:47 AM
plinth - yung patungan ng speaker...

wala yatang stock na kasama pre, alam ko spikes lang
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 25, 2004 at 09:47 AM
Slayer,

may extra wood (paa) sya to be attached sa bottom bago yun spike.. kasi yun 8.3 ng friend ko meron.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Mar 25, 2004 at 09:49 AM
ang alam ko rin walang plint yung diamond 8 na mga floorstanders, spikes ang meron. swerte naman niyan.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 25, 2004 at 09:58 AM
Kimpao & Slayer,

Pre meron and mas pogi ang dating tapos out of the box pre ok ang bass parang naka-sub kami.. you vocals and intruments are there na. :) :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: akyatbundok on Mar 25, 2004 at 11:09 AM
pre di kaya yan may plinth ay yun 70th anniversary edition na may wood veneer at upgraded binding posts?  parang may nakita akong ganun na maple finish sa mcs, hindi siya vinyl, real wood!
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Mar 25, 2004 at 11:31 AM
Hans,

Wala bang plinth yung iba? Yung akin meron kaso di masyado maaninag kasi malayo.

(http://ltp.com.ph/~slayer/hk.jpg)

Akyat,

May difference pala? I'll check sa box pero i think may sticker nga ng 70th anniv yung box ko.  Have to double check.

Guys,

I was at spectra yesterday to help a friend... diamond 8.3 yun buy nya.. ganda pala yun sa Hafler ko.. detail and bass you'll love kahit wlang sub..


8.3 owner talaga bang may plint yun??
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Mar 25, 2004 at 03:25 PM
hmmnn wonder how the diamond 9 series performs? the cones are black colored but kevlar, similar to the ones used for the quad lls.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Mar 25, 2004 at 03:32 PM
Is the 9s true? No sight on thier website and even googling.  :-\
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Mar 25, 2004 at 03:34 PM
its on the what hi fi issue for march 2004. they look nice and is said to be a step up from the diamond 8s
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Mar 25, 2004 at 03:56 PM
Kewl! Sana may pics... i was checking out what hifi site pero ala akong makita.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 26, 2004 at 09:01 AM
Slayer,

Saw that also sa What's hifi magazine.. mas maporma sa 8 tapos black yun woofer and have 2 bass port.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 26, 2004 at 09:03 AM
Guys,

Si ST president baka magkamali next week... hehhee i can feel a Evo 8.. mmmh.
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Mar 26, 2004 at 11:06 AM
shhhhhh!!!! wag-maingay muna sir. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: qguy on Mar 26, 2004 at 01:13 PM
where can I audition the 8.3 ..

how do they sound ? bright laid back etc..

price ?

thanks
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Mar 26, 2004 at 01:32 PM
where can I audition the 8.3 ..

how do they sound ? bright laid back etc..

price ?

thanks

Try to audition in Spectra park square makati look jim ......or architectural audio
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: qguy on Mar 26, 2004 at 02:20 PM
Arch audio...they dont carry the brand...anyone knows the number ng Spectra ?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: cousin skeeter on Mar 26, 2004 at 05:18 PM
was able to hear out the evo at electronic depot in galleria. they sound great but preference-wise, i still like my b2s. i guess it boils down to ones preference.  ::) ::)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Mar 26, 2004 at 05:29 PM
Bro,

I suggest you audition a broken-in 8.3.  You won't like the sound of it out of the box. ;D

where can I audition the 8.3 ..

how do they sound ? bright laid back etc..

price ?

thanks
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 26, 2004 at 07:15 PM
Arch audio...they dont carry the brand...anyone knows the number ng Spectra ?


Spectra at park square, try 818 5493
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: berniebau on Mar 28, 2004 at 01:49 AM
Eto kaya ang Diamond 9?? o Black na Evo??



(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0QwDhAiQUw6qSvP5NRzJd*kvX8zbWLu0eN!oEKo!DghSzjvRkzfYJWtlovwiKN9ApZ!ZA66zxXYrq*sa6RhKFdWGPL0cqYOOy3kGCnsF983E/Wharfs01.jpg?dc=4675465582785983371)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Mar 28, 2004 at 07:09 AM
yup those are diamond9s all right 8)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: dunforgiven on Mar 29, 2004 at 07:56 AM
yup those are diamond9s all right 8)

meron na ba ito locally?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 29, 2004 at 09:03 AM
dunforgiven,

Wala pa ito sir sa local market..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Mar 29, 2004 at 09:07 AM
mukhang mas ok ito ha, hintayin ko na lang kaya itong lumabas? (magiipon pa naman ako e hehehe ;D)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 29, 2004 at 09:22 AM
John,

Sir mukhang ok nga new line ng Diamond series.. dapat meron na tayo dito hehehe
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Mar 29, 2004 at 09:26 AM
The drivers look similar to those used sa quad 11L, sana hindi ito yung kinulayan lang na black na kevlar 8)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 29, 2004 at 12:59 PM
Those midrange drivers on the floorstanders look kinda large to give good mids.  Reminds me of the valdus line sporting 8" mid/woofers.  Most valdus reviews talk about good bass but less detailed mids.  
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 30, 2004 at 09:30 AM
ST president kimpao,


Congrats pala sa bago mong..... tototot. :-X
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Mar 30, 2004 at 10:53 AM
evo8 ba?? ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: garee on Mar 30, 2004 at 12:57 PM
how would you rate the crystal series against the diamond series?
what are the pros and cons? which is much bettter over-all?
inputs will be appreciated, thanks  :-*
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 31, 2004 at 09:14 AM
garee,

Try to pm kimpao my crystal series sya..
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: berniebau on Mar 31, 2004 at 11:15 AM
garee,
narinig ko na side by side ang crystal at diamond. (at tech central at Mkti Cinema Sqr). both not yet broken in then, mas ma-Bass ang crystal. mas detailed naman ang highs ng diamond. pero hindi ko lang alam after break-in kung gaganda ang highs ng crystal.  kasi the diamonds, bumabayo na after using it for a month  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 01, 2004 at 08:53 AM
garee,
 
Kung audio i suggest get the diamond series..

Guys,

naka-50 hours na Pacific Evo 30 ko hehehe lumalabas na yun singer sa wall.....




este yun vocals pala hehehehe.. 8)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: akyatbundok on Apr 01, 2004 at 11:26 AM
nice!! tumatagos na ba sa pader ang soundstage..?  ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Apr 01, 2004 at 11:34 AM
Hans,

Ang lupit niyan!! ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 02, 2004 at 09:17 AM
akyat & Slayer,

Made some adjustment again sa positioning notice nawala yun pacific evo 30 kooooo...  :o :o
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Apr 02, 2004 at 09:49 AM
akyat & Slayer,

Made some adjustment again sa positioning notice nawala yun pacific evo 30 kooooo...  :o :o

what?? asan na? bilis naman manakaw hehehe jk :D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 02, 2004 at 10:26 AM
John,

Buy na kasi ng pacific evo 10 hehehehe ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Apr 02, 2004 at 10:41 AM
Hans,

Hintayin ko yung Diamond 9. Ahehehe... ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Apr 02, 2004 at 10:43 AM
akyat & Slayer,

Made some adjustment again sa positioning notice nawala yun pacific evo 30 kooooo...  :o :o

pre, baka naman kinahon at tinago na ni misis. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [slayer] on Apr 02, 2004 at 11:28 AM
Abangan na natin yan sa assorted buy and sell... post na ng misis ni Hans.

Boxed, not yet broken-in. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: BGA VI on Apr 02, 2004 at 07:32 PM
sir qguy, sent you a pm. :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: bridgebolt on Apr 04, 2004 at 03:07 PM
hehehe, ano ba yung evo>> inosente po e, wharfedale din ba yun o acoustic energy?
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Apr 04, 2004 at 09:49 PM
wharfedale pacific evolution aka pacific evo
acoustic energy evolution aka ae evo

 ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: bravoexo on Apr 04, 2004 at 09:59 PM
Kasya kaya under 50k ang isang AVR330 at isang set ng Pacific Evo 30?   :o
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Apr 04, 2004 at 10:03 PM
Kasya kaya under 50k ang isang AVR330 at isang set ng Pacific Evo 30?   :o


evo30 - 23k+
hk330 - 30k+

 :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: bravoexo on Apr 04, 2004 at 10:05 PM
konti na lang!!  ;D

Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 06, 2004 at 10:22 AM
bravoexo,

Make it Pacific evo 24,500
            HK 330      29+++
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Apr 06, 2004 at 10:28 AM
konti lang sobra sa 50T... bili bili na..  ;D  :D
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 06, 2004 at 10:39 AM
bravoexo,

Better audition the combo to make sure.. :)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Apr 06, 2004 at 08:10 PM
bravoexo,

Better audition the combo to make sure.. :)
san kaya mag aaudition e binili mo na yong kaisa isang stock nang Pacific evo....... ;D ;D ;D pwede ba sa inyo ;)
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Narayan on Apr 06, 2004 at 08:56 PM
san kaya mag aaudition e binili mo na yong kaisa isang stock nang Pacific evo....... ;D ;D ;D pwede ba sa inyo ;)
Quote


sama kami hane ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 12, 2004 at 09:03 AM
J_albert & Narayan,

Sure pwede naman eh kaso.... psst not now kasi di ko pa mapatino yun listening room ko hehehehe hirap pala ng all wood.. huhuhuhuh :'( :'(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: bravoexo on Apr 12, 2004 at 09:22 AM
Wala ng Pacific Evo?   :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 12, 2004 at 10:44 AM
bravoexo,

Sir meron kaso tig isang pair lang ata pinarating kaya yun EVo30 eh wla na but if you like the Evo30 pwede naman order kaso wait ka lang konti... O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 12, 2004 at 10:49 AM
Bravoevo,

I think yun EVo 8 & 10 nasa Spectra... yun Evo 20 Electronic Depot (Galleria) yun Evo 40 ( no idea ).. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: bravoexo on Apr 12, 2004 at 10:54 AM
Thanks for the info. Now if I can just find a 7.1 AVR under 25k... he he he mukhang KRF-6090D's lang ang aabot...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 12, 2004 at 11:00 AM
bravoexo,

Goodluck sa 7.1 hunting mo hehehe.. pre friends advice better not put your money AVR kasi yearly may new features and model so mabilis maluma..  :) :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: bravoexo on Apr 12, 2004 at 11:09 AM
I hear ya... 7.1 na dapat talaga ang hanapin ko if I've in the market now... not 6.1 anymore.  Besides, our living room rear end is already ready for 7.1 (thanks to those two 5.1's I have setup)...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: BGA VI on Apr 12, 2004 at 10:13 PM
hi, anybody know kung magkano na ngayon yung Diamond 8.4 ? :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 13, 2004 at 09:34 AM
BGA VI,

Sir try to contact JIM of spectra 8185493 for Wharf 8.4.. yun 8.3 si around 6,800.00 ata.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: BGA VI on Apr 13, 2004 at 11:49 AM
ok thanks ! ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimosabe on Apr 13, 2004 at 12:20 PM
Hi guys, sale daw yung Marantz SR 4300, P13,995 daw ang price.  I would like to ask you wharf owners na maganda bang i-pair ang Wharf speakers to the said AVR?

Thanks. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: berniebau on Apr 13, 2004 at 09:25 PM
hi, anybody know kung magkano na ngayon yung Diamond 8.4 ? :)

alam ko:
8.4 = 8400
8.3 = 6000
ambasador mura, pede pa 0%. kaya lang not very helpful/accomodating minsan. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 14, 2004 at 10:06 AM
berniebau,

Sir correct ka dyan wala sa vocabulary nila yun customer service.. hehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: zakkaz on Apr 14, 2004 at 03:22 PM


alam ko:
8.4 = 8400
8.3 = 6000
ambasador mura, pede pa 0%. kaya lang not very helpful/accomodating minsan. :)

if ever accomodating sila sa pagbenta lang after that wala na
magaling sila magbagsak ng presyo pro pagdating sa service pahirapan yan
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: obey on Apr 14, 2004 at 04:29 PM
Very True >:(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 14, 2004 at 04:44 PM
Are wharfs better priced at Ambassador than at Spectra?  Sino ba authorized agent/aftersales ng Wharfes?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Apr 14, 2004 at 04:47 PM
Bro,

Ambassador can you give 0% int anytime kahit walang promo! ;D ;D ;D

Konting kulit lang and they'll give you big discounts.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 14, 2004 at 06:35 PM
Slayer,

musta pala 8.3 mo sir?? broken in na.. yun Pacific Evo 30 still have long hour to log pa.. hehehe  O0 O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Apr 14, 2004 at 06:38 PM
Master,

Fully broken-in na po...  haven't sandfilled parin though... i wonder kung anong improvement neto.  So far i'm quite contented with my 8.3 (simula nung hindi na ako nakakasama sa bundok ni akyat). Ahehehee... seriously, very satisfied ako... some tweak lang with the treble at lumalapit siya sa MA. ;D ;D ;D

Slayer,

musta pala 8.3 mo sir?? broken in na.. yun Pacific Evo 30 still have long hour to log pa.. hehehe  O0 O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 14, 2004 at 06:41 PM
Slayer,

Experiment with some toe in and forward/back movement and bass and high/mid will improve kahit 1 cm lang hehehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Apr 14, 2004 at 06:45 PM
Sir,

Napagalitan na nga ni kumander kasi di daw ako mapakali sa speakers ko! Aehehehhee... ;D ;D ;D

Slayer,

Experiment with some toe in and forward/back movement and bass and high/mid will improve kahit 1 cm lang hehehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Apr 14, 2004 at 07:05 PM
try sand filling the 8.3 para mas sturdy yung enclosure. i doubt it if it would'nt give you a big improvement
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Apr 14, 2004 at 08:46 PM
Hi guys, sale daw yung Marantz SR 4300, P13,995 daw ang price.  I would like to ask you wharf owners na maganda bang i-pair ang Wharf speakers to the said AVR?

Thanks. 

AVERAGE. I'm using this pair. Get "better" speakers.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimosabe on Apr 15, 2004 at 09:30 AM


AVERAGE. I'm using this pair. Get "better" speakers.

Yup di nga ganon kaganda, narinig ko sya sa Electronic Depot sa Galleria. I'm having second thoughts tuloy. Si HTNovice binebenta nya yung HK 130 nya sana mabigyan nya ako ng good deal para HK/Wharf na lang.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 15, 2004 at 05:06 PM
Kimosabe,

Kulitin mo na yan for best deal iba ang HK/wharf combo.. >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on Apr 15, 2004 at 10:57 PM
Kimosabe,

Kulitin mo na yan for best deal iba ang HK/wharf combo.. >:D >:D

I agree with hans, im very satisfied with my wharfs and HK combi, still looking forward to buy the 8.1 for my rears ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimosabe on Apr 16, 2004 at 12:03 PM
I texted him yesterday ngayon lang nag-reply, nainip na tuloy ako bumili na lang ako sa Architectural Audio kahapon ng HK 130 for P18,900. Speaker na lang proproblemahin ko, ipon ulit  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Apr 16, 2004 at 01:44 PM
Hit man!! Congrats pre!! ;D

I texted him yesterday ngayon lang nag-reply, nainip na tuloy ako bumili na lang ako sa Architectural Audio kahapon ng HK 130 for P18,900. Speaker na lang proproblemahin ko, ipon ulit  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 19, 2004 at 09:58 AM
Kimosabe,

Congrats pre at HK 130 na!!  O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimosabe on Apr 19, 2004 at 12:09 PM
Thanks guys, ganda talaga HK 130 hindi ako nagkamali ng bili.  I'm using my current speakers from my Sony Mini-Compo and lalong gumanda ang tunog ayoko na nga ikabit ulit sa mini-compo yung speakers kaya lang ayaw ni misis hindi daw nya alam gamiting yung AVR  ;D  ;D  ;D

Ipon ulit para Wharf naman.  O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 20, 2004 at 06:23 PM
kimosabe,

Pre iba talaga HK from audio to ht panalo yan.. O0 kung wharf type mo Hk talaga match nya..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimosabe on Apr 21, 2004 at 09:30 AM
kimosabe,

Pre iba talaga HK from audio to ht panalo yan.. O0 kung wharf type mo Hk talaga match nya..

Actually, nung time na tinetest namin sa Archi Audio yung HK 130 nakapair sya sa AE Evo 3 na speaker yata yun. Mas maganda parang yun na gusto ko kaya lang medyo hindi kaya ng budget. 

So esep esep muna ako kung tiis tiis muna sa current speaker ko hanggang maka ipon ng pambili ng Evo3.  Problema lang pag nainip ako baka wharfedale ang mabili ko.  ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Apr 21, 2004 at 10:09 AM


Actually, nung time na tinetest namin sa Archi Audio yung HK 130 nakapair sya sa AE Evo 3 na speaker yata yun. Mas maganda parang yun na gusto ko kaya lang medyo hindi kaya ng budget. 

So esep esep muna ako kung tiis tiis muna sa current speaker ko hanggang maka ipon ng pambili ng Evo3.  Problema lang pag nainip ako baka wharfedale ang mabili ko.  ???

sir kimosabe,
if kaya naman ng budget.. go for the Evo3.. mas maganda yung isang bilihan na lang.. kesa bili ka ng wharf then lalo napakinggan mo na yung evo.. nde mo maiiwasan hanapin yung tunog nung evo.. then benta mo ulit yang wharf mo.. mas lalaki gastos mo...   ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 21, 2004 at 10:11 AM
kimosabe,

its always better to wait... para makuha mo yun best speaker na type mo.. speaker are like singers.. kung pangit singer wla kwenta yun song.. O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimosabe on Apr 21, 2004 at 11:34 AM
hintay na nga siguro ang best move, baka i will regret it pa later on.  Medyo matagal tagal nga lang paghihintay at pagiipon but at least happy naman. 

Ganda talaga kasi eh ngayon pa lang eh namimiss ko na yung tunog ng AE EVO3. kung ano ano nga kinalikot ko sa AVR ma achieve ko lang yung tunog ng AE EVO3 pero wala talaga  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: bravoexo on Apr 21, 2004 at 04:03 PM
H/K + Wharf fronts + Philips center & surrounds = hayop!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Jairus on Apr 23, 2004 at 05:30 PM
Bought my HK3550 and Wharfs last year...I'm still very satisfied...lalong gumaganda tunog (with the Wharfs fully broken in) ;) -- because I stopped reading this forum after ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: aHobbit on Apr 23, 2004 at 06:18 PM
Bought my HK3550 and Wharfs last year...I'm still very satisfied...lalong gumaganda tunog (with the Wharfs fully broken in) ;) -- because I stopped reading this forum after ;D

P'reho tayo bro. After I tried the gainclone, my 8.3 suddenly shew its true color - high end performance. I still read this forum, though, but very seldom na lang ngayon and hardly convinced easily.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 23, 2004 at 06:26 PM
ahobbit and jairus,

Guys galing yan.. usually a year or two eh fully broken in na speaker mo.. kaya now enjoy the music na lang..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 23, 2004 at 06:47 PM
guys,

Now is the best time to tweak the speaker placement ulit hehehe coz broken in na hirap magtimpla ng new speaker sir..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LtCool on Apr 29, 2004 at 01:28 AM
Sir Hans kamusta pacific mo?

Cheers,
-LtCool-
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 29, 2004 at 08:54 AM
LTcool,

Ok naman still break in stage pa tayo.. pero still tweaking my room kalilipat ko lang kasi and all wood yun room hayyyy hirap..

Pero even not yet broken eh promising na talaga sya yun overall balance ang performance even at high volume.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 29, 2004 at 09:01 AM
LT cool,

Musta speaker mo sir broken in na ba??
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Apr 29, 2004 at 10:46 AM
Master,

San ka na ngayon? Lumapit na ba? ;)

LTcool,

Ok naman still break in stage pa tayo.. pero still tweaking my room kalilipat ko lang kasi and all wood yun room hayyyy hirap..

Pero even not yet broken eh promising na talaga sya yun overall balance ang performance even at high volume.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 29, 2004 at 04:15 PM
Master slayer,

sir lumapit ng konti sa office mo... hehehe pre kailan ba kami makakagulo sa mansion mo?? O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Apr 29, 2004 at 04:35 PM
Aba! Puwede ba tumambay pag lunch break? Ahehehhee... Sana nga may mansion ako para may dedicated a/v room para sa Diamond 8.3 ko (para di OT). ;D ;D ;D

Balita ko paglabas daw ng amp na pinapagawa ni jetok session uli. ;D

Master slayer,

sir lumapit ng konti sa office mo... hehehe pre kailan ba kami makakagulo sa mansion mo?? O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 29, 2004 at 05:21 PM
Slayer,

Yes balita ko nga rin.. was thinking dapat eh dinadala ko Evo30 ko para ma-break in sa session hehehhee kaso lang heavy weight ito sa size..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Apr 29, 2004 at 06:04 PM
Kabit mo nalang sa Hafler (nasa iyo pa ba?) mo para ma break in ng TODO ang Evo30 mo. ;D

Slayer,

Yes balita ko nga rin.. was thinking dapat eh dinadala ko Evo30 ko para ma-break in sa session hehehhee kaso lang heavy weight ito sa size..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: vvt-i on Apr 29, 2004 at 10:07 PM
Aba! Puwede ba tumambay pag lunch break? Ahehehhee... Sana nga may mansion ako para may dedicated a/v room para sa Diamond 8.3 ko (para di OT). ;D ;D ;D

Balita ko paglabas daw ng amp na pinapagawa ni jetok session uli. ;D




slayer,

balita ko rin kay kimpao yan eh pero sana in the next session hans can bring the evo30 para naman marinig ko.  sa picture ko lang nakita evo30 nung session kina kimpao eh ang ganda. O0 O0


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 30, 2004 at 09:58 AM
Jetok,

Pre will try to bring it next session pag release ng tube amp mo sir..  O0 hirap lang kasi heavy and bulky pa.. last time a bought it along eh naka-dent hehehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Apr 30, 2004 at 11:22 AM
Jetok,

Kelan labas ng amp? Ako rin curious sa evo30 si master hans... gusto ko siya matest with HK. ;D



slayer,

balita ko rin kay kimpao yan eh pero sana in the next session hans can bring the evo30 para naman marinig ko.  sa picture ko lang nakita evo30 nung session kina kimpao eh ang ganda. O0 O0



Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Apr 30, 2004 at 12:22 PM
Jetok,

Kelan labas ng amp? Ako rin curious sa evo30 si master hans... gusto ko siya matest with HK. ;D




Hmmmmm..... Interesting ::) ::) Ano kaya ang balak nito tubeamp o evo30? ::) ::) Sa bagay, either way panalo siya.





Pre, EVO30 na!!! :o :o >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Apr 30, 2004 at 01:16 PM


Hmmmmm..... Interesting ::) ::) Ano kaya ang balak nito tubeamp o evo30? ::) ::) Sa bagay, either way panalo siya.





Pre, EVO30 na!!! :o :o >:D >:D

tube amp...  >:D  ;D  >:D  O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Apr 30, 2004 at 02:56 PM
Magsilayo kayo mga TUKSO! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 30, 2004 at 06:07 PM
Slayer,

Tube amp and EVO30na lang!!  >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Apr 30, 2004 at 06:21 PM
Slayer,

Tube amp and EVO30na lang!!  >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D

tama ka dyan pre... go go go slayer...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 04, 2004 at 08:53 AM
slayer,

Will try to bring the speaker sa next session.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: vvt-i on May 04, 2004 at 11:45 PM
Jetok,

Kelan labas ng amp? Ako rin curious sa evo30 si master hans... gusto ko siya matest with HK. ;D




according to andrew he will try to release it on or before may 20.  evo30 was in my list when i was scouting for speakers pero sabi sa spectra minimum one month waiting and they are not yet sure kelan magkakaroon ng evo-center kaya i opted for another brand.  O0 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 05, 2004 at 02:16 PM
Jetok,

Suppose to get the pacific evo center kaso order basis pa nga pero oks lang since pure audio na ako today.. hehehehe O0 O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: dunforgiven on May 06, 2004 at 01:03 PM
medyo OT, pero meron ba sa inyo merong experience with Wharf subs? i'm looking for budget subs kasi, so please don't compare it with the velo, rel and the rest of the high-end subs.

thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 11, 2004 at 03:51 PM
Guys,

Update sa Diamond 9 meron na ba?? >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: stan on May 12, 2004 at 05:06 PM

Guys,

I read that you can tweak the Diamond 8s by installing crossovers on them.

Can someone tell me where to go to get that done?

thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on May 12, 2004 at 05:07 PM
Dude,

It already has crossovers.  Some people change it.



Guys,

I read that you can tweak the Diamond 8s by installing crossovers on them.

Can someone tell me where to go to get that done?

thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on May 12, 2004 at 05:13 PM

Guys,

I read that you can tweak the Diamond 8s by installing crossovers on them.

Can someone tell me where to go to get that done?

thanks

PM sir nirv, we already ask him about it, charge is around 1k+.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 13, 2004 at 10:25 AM
Slayer,

Musta pala new cable mo sa 8.3??

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on May 13, 2004 at 11:40 AM
D pa ata nakukuha ung cables kaya quite lang sya  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on May 13, 2004 at 12:52 PM
Master hans,

di ko pa nakukuha... mamaya palang! ahehehe... ;D

punk,

;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 13, 2004 at 03:37 PM
slayer,

Ay sori po  i thought you got it na opppsss hehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 14, 2004 at 08:33 AM
guys,

Have anyone try hooking your Diamond series with Tube amp?? pre ganda!! >:D >:D >:D tried it with ST DON kimpao when we are audition Pacific Evo at Spectra curious lang kami so we ask Jim (spectra ) to paired it with 8.3 tapos 8.1 naman.. result was WOW.. high and mid are prominent nagkatinginan kami ni Kimpao hehehehe.. Try nyo!! >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on May 14, 2004 at 10:18 AM
Hindi ko yan babasahin! Iwas sars! ahahahha.... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on May 14, 2004 at 11:31 AM
guys,

Have anyone try hooking your Diamond series with Tube amp?? pre ganda!! >:D >:D >:D tried it with ST DON kimpao when we are audition Pacific Evo at Spectra curious lang kami so we ask Jim (spectra ) to paired it with 8.3 tapos 8.1 naman.. result was WOW.. high and mid are prominent nagkatinginan kami ni Kimpao hehehehe.. Try nyo!! >:D >:D

ok ba sa 8.3? kaso push pull? wala ba pwede magdala bukas?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on May 14, 2004 at 11:56 AM
guys,

Have anyone try hooking your Diamond series with Tube amp?? pre ganda!! >:D >:D >:D tried it with ST DON kimpao when we are audition Pacific Evo at Spectra curious lang kami so we ask Jim (spectra ) to paired it with 8.3 tapos 8.1 naman.. result was WOW.. high and mid are prominent nagkatinginan kami ni Kimpao hehehehe.. Try nyo!! >:D >:D

Hay naku sir hans, you gave diamond owners an idea hahahaha!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on May 14, 2004 at 12:44 PM


ok ba sa 8.3? kaso push pull? wala ba pwede magdala bukas?

Yup push pull.  was able to try the scott and the dynaco with my wharfedale crystal40 and crystal10 (mas mababa sensitivity compared to diamonds) ok din tumunog, malinis, nice din vocals. wag mo lang hanapan ng bass, although meron din pero bitin.

If one is really on a tight budget, would suggest an AMX push pull amp paired with wharfs. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on May 14, 2004 at 02:39 PM
iceman,

Sayang, kung makasama sana ako puwede ko dalin 8.3 ko.



ok ba sa 8.3? kaso push pull? wala ba pwede magdala bukas?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on May 14, 2004 at 02:45 PM
ot.. pre slayer.. tuloy meet nyo mamaya sa makati ni john.. saka yung cd na rin.. thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 14, 2004 at 03:00 PM
Iceman,

Pre we tested it with my AMX push pull amp 30watts.. pero not yet sa SET amp. :)

PUnk kid,

Sir mukhang magandang combo ito Diamond 8.3 + AMX push pull!! sa totoo lang you'll be SURPRISE with the 8.3 hehehehehe  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on May 14, 2004 at 03:04 PM
sigurado ba kayo na maganda yung 8.3 sa tubes? bibili ako hehehe O0 OT kita kami ni slayer mamaya...dala ko na yung epektus hehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on May 14, 2004 at 03:13 PM
sigurado ba kayo na maganda yung 8.3 sa tubes? bibili ako hehehe O0 OT kita kami ni slayer mamaya...dala ko na yung epektus hehe

sigurado yan sir! ewan ko nalang kung di mapakanta ng mono-blocks mo yan, sir. 8.4 ba. Ahehehehehhhe >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on May 14, 2004 at 03:17 PM


sigurado yan sir! ewan ko nalang kung di mapakanta ng mono-blocks mo yan, sir. 8.4 ba. Ahehehehehhhe >:D >:D

pwede....OT: me xlo burn in cd ka kimpao?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on May 14, 2004 at 03:20 PM
Sir,

Wag kang maingay baka may raid tayo! Ahehehe...  >:D

sigurado ba kayo na maganda yung 8.3 sa tubes? bibili ako hehehe O0 OT kita kami ni slayer mamaya...dala ko na yung epektus hehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 14, 2004 at 03:20 PM
John,

syempre nakataya ata reputasyon ni ST DON Kimpao dito hehehehe joke only
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on May 14, 2004 at 03:30 PM
sigurado ba kayo na maganda yung 8.3 sa tubes? bibili ako hehehe O0 OT kita kami ni slayer mamaya...dala ko na yung epektus hehe

ot.. sama ako dyan.. meet ko din mamaya si slayer to get some audio cdrs..  ;D  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on May 14, 2004 at 03:31 PM
hmmn magkano na kaya yung 8.4 ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 14, 2004 at 03:49 PM
John,

roughly 8k cguro... ::) ::) 8.3 is 6,500 na..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on May 14, 2004 at 03:56 PM
Iceman,

PUnk kid,

Sir mukhang magandang combo ito Diamond 8.3 + AMX push pull!! sa totoo lang you'll be SURPRISE with the 8.3 hehehehehe  >:D >:D

buti na lang wala kong 8.3, kundi mapapabili mo ko ng AMX push pull nyan  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on May 14, 2004 at 05:07 PM


pwede....OT: me xlo burn in cd ka kimpao?
Ala tayo niyan sir pero kung makakuha ka sir pa-k*%@* ahehehehehehe ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on May 14, 2004 at 05:08 PM


buti na lang wala kong 8.3, kundi mapapabili mo ko ng AMX push pull nyan  >:D >:D

Sir bili ka rin ng 8.3 Ahehehhehe Joke Only!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 14, 2004 at 05:22 PM
kIMPAO,

sir yun friend ko may 8.3.. kaso dala ko na Evo30 di na kasya sa oto ko..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 14, 2004 at 07:23 PM
guys,

after that we paired it with diamond 8.1. we notice the What hifi best buy 2001 speaker shines panalo talaga.. for detail and resolution it will amaze even the most sceptical listener..  :o :o :o

Try nyo!! 8.1 owners.. >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on May 14, 2004 at 07:48 PM
guys,

after that we paired it with diamond 8.1. we notice the What hifi best buy 2001 speaker shines panalo talaga.. for detail and resolution it will amaze even the most sceptical listener..  :o :o :o

Try nyo!! 8.1 owners.. >:D >:D


e na swap ko na 8.1 ko for an m70 e............. :-[ hayyyyyyyyyyy......... nga pla wala din pla akong tubes. hehehe.......... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on May 14, 2004 at 08:11 PM
hmmnn isip isip
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 14, 2004 at 08:16 PM
John,

skeptical.. try mo  >:D >:D >:D panis yan lalo na sa MONOblock mo...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on May 14, 2004 at 10:33 PM
hmmnn isip isip

Akala ko Pacific Evo 10 ang kukunin mo? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on May 15, 2004 at 11:17 AM


Akala ko Pacific Evo 10 ang kukunin mo? ;D ;D ;D

kaya nga isip isis...but if the 8.3 performs good...dun na sa mas mura O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on May 16, 2004 at 12:56 AM


Akala ko Pacific Evo 10 ang kukunin mo? ;D ;D ;D

j_albert22

Di daw Evo 10, pre. Ayaw na raw ni john5479 niyan kaya 8.1 or 8.3 nalang daw. Sabi ni sir isak, 4 years daw bago ma break-in ang pacific evo. Bwahahahahahaha :D :D :D

kuya hans,

joke only!!! ;D ;D ;D Peace tayoooooooooo!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 16, 2004 at 06:55 PM
Kimpao,

pre napa-isip ako 4 years!!  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 16, 2004 at 07:01 PM
Kimpao,

Salamas pala sa pagtulong nyo up and down ng Evo30 ko.. hehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on May 16, 2004 at 09:47 PM
Kimpao,

pre napa-isip ako 4 years!!  ::) ::)

pahiram mo sa akin...breakin ko sa monoblocks...tutal 4 years pa bago gumanda e...hehehe ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on May 17, 2004 at 09:06 AM
Kimpao,

pre napa-isip ako 4 years!!  ::) ::)

pre oks nga yan.. atleast nakakasiguro kang after 4 years.. buhay pa speakers mo..   ;D  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimosabe on May 17, 2004 at 09:33 AM
John,

roughly 8k cguro... ::) ::) 8.3 is 6,500 na..

Just bought 8.3 last saturday P7,900 na ang price matatawaran mo hanggang P7.4K.  Price increase na naman  ??? ??? ???  >:( >:( >:(

Pero kahit na nagmahal ng kaonti happy naman ako.... gandang tumunog  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on May 17, 2004 at 10:17 AM


Just bought 8.3 last saturday P7,900 na ang price matatawaran mo hanggang P7.4K.  Price increase na naman  ??? ??? ???  >:( >:( >:(

Pero kahit na nagmahal ng kaonti happy naman ako.... gandang tumunog  ;D ;D ;D

Saan ka nakabili? Medyo napamahal ka.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimosabe on May 17, 2004 at 10:24 AM


Saan ka nakabili? Medyo napamahal ka.

Listening Room sa Megamall - 7,500

Pero nagtanong din ako sa Spectra - 7,900 and Ambassador Shang - 7,900 matatawaran hanggang 7,400.  Sabi nung taga spectra nahuli daw ako ng pagbili kasi last month daw eh P6,900 ang price nila nakasale daw.

Alam ko nga eh w/in 6 - 7 thousand ang price kaya lang tinamad na akong maghanap kasi parepareho rin ang sinasabi nilang price.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on May 17, 2004 at 10:34 AM
How about in Sound Diemnsion?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimosabe on May 17, 2004 at 11:05 AM
How about in Sound Diemnsion?

Sa Parksqure ba yun? Beside Odyssey? if dun nga may nakadisplay dun price is P6,900.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on May 17, 2004 at 11:09 AM


Sa Parksqure ba yun? Beside Odyssey? if dun nga may nakadisplay dun price is P6,900.

Yes. Passed there yesterday and the price is still 6.9K, which I think pwede pa tumawad.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: zakkaz on May 17, 2004 at 11:19 AM


Listening Room sa Megamall - 7,500

Pero nagtanong din ako sa Spectra - 7,900 and Ambassador Shang - 7,900 matatawaran hanggang 7,400.  Sabi nung taga spectra nahuli daw ako ng pagbili kasi last month daw eh P6,900 ang price nila nakasale daw.

Alam ko nga eh w/in 6 - 7 thousand ang price kaya lang tinamad na akong maghanap kasi parepareho rin ang sinasabi nilang price.
7900? its impossible the srp is just only 7500
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimosabe on May 17, 2004 at 11:23 AM


Yes. Passed there yesterday and the price is still 6.9K, which I think pwede pa tumawad.

Pwede pa nga siguro sayang nga eh, kasi last tuesday pa ako nakapunta duon wala pa akong pambili last saturday lang nagkaroon. Sa shangrila at megamall na ako pumunta akala ko makakamura ako dun MAPAPAMURA pala  ;D. At tinamad na rin ako pumunta sa makati kakapagod mag-shopping ng speaker eh ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: bravoexo on May 17, 2004 at 01:43 PM
On the day I finally bought my HK and Wharf 8.4s... I visited Robinsons' Galleria, Podium, Megamall, Shangrila, and eventually went to Parksquare 1 for the buy.  Yes, very tiring indeed.  Not to mention that 8.4s weighed a ton each... the next day, my arms hurt like hell.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 17, 2004 at 05:54 PM
Kimosabe,

Congrats!! 8.3.. break in agad.. gaganda pa lalo...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 17, 2004 at 05:54 PM
John, & Sebman,

Wag wala ako magagamit hehehehe... ::) ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: berniebau on May 18, 2004 at 02:08 AM
TINAMAAN NG ISA!!! Ganon na ba kataas ang presyo ng Wharfs??? May nakakaalam ba kung magkano ng ang 8Center?

Peace to all  O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on May 18, 2004 at 07:49 AM
On the day I finally bought my HK and Wharf 8.4s... I visited Robinsons' Galleria, Podium, Megamall, Shangrila, and eventually went to Parksquare 1 for the buy.  Yes, very tiring indeed.  Not to mention that 8.4s weighed a ton each... the next day, my arms hurt like hell.

Ganyan talaga, masakit nasa bulsa masakit pa sa braso lol ;D, I remember carrying my AVR from spectra hanggang dun sa carpark sa parksquare sa sobrang excitement na makauwi agad at ma testing, hindi ko na naintay yung assistant ni Jim para mag pa assist lol
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 18, 2004 at 08:17 AM
Guys,

Pati na Wharfedale nag-price increase..


Courage,

But pala ako nakatiis pa di magbuhat... hehehehe kaso nauna pa ako sa oto ko kaysa sa speaker. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimosabe on May 18, 2004 at 10:20 AM
Kimosabe,

Congrats!! 8.3.. break in agad.. gaganda pa lalo...

Thanks, hindi ko masyado mabreak in every weekend ko lang nagagamit ayaw ni misis eh manonood daw kasi sya ng Marina hehehe

Sub naman proproblemahin ko then surround then dedicated cd player then.... hayyy wala bang katapusan ito  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on May 18, 2004 at 10:24 AM


Thanks, hindi ko masyado mabreak in every weekend ko lang nagagamit ayaw ni misis eh manonood daw kasi sya ng Marina hehehe

Sub naman proproblemahin ko then surround then dedicated cd player then.... hayyy wala bang katapusan ito  ;D ;D ;D

congrats.. ganyan talaga yan sir.. next na nyan.. tube na... then syempre.. never ending gastos para sa dvd.. remember
walang katapusan ang paglabas ng bagong movie...  ;D  :D   O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on May 19, 2004 at 09:59 AM


j_albert22

Di daw Evo 10, pre. Ayaw na raw ni john5479 niyan kaya 8.1 or 8.3 nalang daw. Sabi ni sir isak, 4 years daw bago ma break-in ang pacific evo. Bwahahahahahaha :D :D :D

kuya hans,

joke only!!! ;D ;D ;D Peace tayoooooooooo!!!!!!!!


4 year e sa Hafler di aabot nang isang taon yan hehehehehehe ;D ;D ;D kuya hans ikabit mo nasa hafler ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on May 19, 2004 at 01:04 PM
sino kaya ang me 8.3 na ibebenta...just pm me if you plan to sell your 8.3 O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on May 19, 2004 at 01:07 PM
Aha! may binabalak kang masama pre  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on May 19, 2004 at 01:28 PM
Aha! may binabalak kang masama pre  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

di naman, baka kako merong me balak ipaampon ang 8.3 nila e ako na ang aako hehe ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on May 19, 2004 at 01:30 PM


di naman, baka kako merong me balak ipaampn ang 8.3 nila e ako na ang aako hehe ;D

Si [slayer] balak ata ipaampon yung 8.3 >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on May 19, 2004 at 01:53 PM
Oi! Pano ako nasali sa usapan! Ahehehee... love ko 'to! ;D

Not today siguro... in due time. ;) Price increase narin pala Wharfs ngayon...  :o



Si [slayer] balak ata ipaampon yung 8.3 >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on May 19, 2004 at 02:13 PM

di naman, baka kako merong me balak ipaampon ang 8.3 nila e ako na ang aako hehe ;D

curious ba sa tunog ng 8.3 powered by push pull tube amp?  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on May 19, 2004 at 02:16 PM
Oi! Pano ako nasali sa usapan! Ahehehee... love ko 'to! ;D

Not today siguro... in due time. ;) Price increase narin pala Wharfs ngayon...  :o


sama ka sa session..... cgurado mapapaampon mo na yan ke john  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 19, 2004 at 04:31 PM
Guys,

Up next ata sa session eh push pull showdown kaya bring your 8.3.. para magkaSARS...  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: oyie_delapaz on May 19, 2004 at 04:42 PM
hi! anybody interested in trading their 8.1's with my 8.3's?

i use 8.3 for my fronts and 8.1 for my rear, diamond center and a wharfedale 10" sub (downfiring).
sarap gamitin neto, lalo na kapag +10db yung setting ng amps ko :D 

im trading my 8.3 kasi i want to reclaim some space in my very small apartment.  pm me if anybody of you is interested.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 19, 2004 at 05:06 PM
J_albert,

Pre Hafler ba.... naku nasa friend ko...... hehehehe ganda na nga yun 8.3 nya coz of my power amp..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on May 19, 2004 at 05:16 PM
Sir,

Baka lalo kong maging mahal yung 8.3 ko pag na hook ito sa push-pull. ;D



sama ka sa session..... cgurado mapapaampon mo na yan ke john  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 19, 2004 at 07:46 PM
slayer,

Ito lang masasabi ko  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)  :o :o :o :o >:D >:D :'( :'( :-\ :-\ :-X :-X :) :) :D :D ;D ;D ;D 8) 8) O0 O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on May 19, 2004 at 07:59 PM
SARS is all around >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on May 20, 2004 at 08:09 AM
Sir,

Baka lalo kong maging mahal yung 8.3 ko pag na hook ito sa push-pull. ;D




try na yan para mapatunayan at magkaalaman na hehehehe ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Courage on May 20, 2004 at 12:26 PM
SARS is all around >:D

Im glad im cured, pag wala palang pera nawawala ang pagkalat nang infection nang SARS lol
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: skramm on May 20, 2004 at 12:50 PM
oks ba yung Wharfs sa analog (phono/turntable)?  ty.   O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: antukin on May 20, 2004 at 03:57 PM
question lang po regarding 8.3.  when i have available time, i try to tweak my setup. first naka small lahat ng speakers ko. then i tried large for the fronts. mas maganda ang effect. but when i tried playing StarshipTroopers in the scene na 1st time magpaandar ng carrier si denise richards, naging boomy na sya. then i tried covering the port of my sub, nabawasan. when i set the fronts to small, nawala yung boominess, kaso nga lang, patay naman yung ibang low freq. ang question ko e, will it be safe to cover the ports of the 8.3? o baka masira ang 8.3 pagcovered ang port nya?

btw, naka -20db na ang LFE control of the yammy440. wala ring xover controls ang sub.

salamats
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on May 20, 2004 at 04:05 PM
sir, placement yan.  Wharfs tend to be boomy when placed near walls.  You have to place them atleast 2.5 to 3 feet away from the side walls and 2 feet from the rear and there shouldn't be anything in between those spaces.  that was a problem for me when i  was using diamonds previously.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on May 20, 2004 at 04:22 PM
If your set-up sounds OK to you with majority of the source materials you put in, then getting a less than ok from just one or two sources may simply point to the sources as the culprit.  It's possible that the LFE mix on the DVD is simply boomy.  Try another bass rich material if you get the same boominess.

Boominess at your listening position may result from LF peaks anywhere from 100hz down.  This can come from the speaker themselves or from speaker interaction with the room's accoustic properties.  Speaker placement result in room excitation nodes which may occur where your are listening.  It can be boomy in one location but not in another. Try walking around the room to verify this.  Correcting this may require changing speaker placement or treating the room with bass traps.  Corner placements enhance bass but can result in boominess.

Or you could tame the speakers' bass.  Covering the port of a ported enclosure will simply stiffen the internal pressure to the woofer and thus yield tighter bass.  In fact, it can better conserve the woofer surrounds and spider suspension by reducing wild woofer excursions that otherwise would result.  This can help if the speakers are indeed boomy to begin with.

Another option is to install a paramteric equalizer between the reciever and the subwoofer to tame the peaks (but you can't use this to compensate for LF cancellations, only bass traps do).  While I frown on using tone shaping devices to compensate for room accoustic abberations, preffering instead to treat the room, I've seen how effectively equalizers, used judiciously,  can do a good job at enabling flat LF response at your listening position.  But only to tame peaks in the bass region.  Bass is the hardest to control in treating room accoustics, so an equalizer can really help.  But if there's a frequency dip resulting from severe cancellation, boosting the dipped frequency will only boost the secondary reflections to yield the same cancellation.  No improvement.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: johnlen on May 20, 2004 at 04:48 PM
question lang po regarding 8.3.  when i have available time, i try to tweak my setup. first naka small lahat ng speakers ko. then i tried large for the fronts. mas maganda ang effect. but when i tried playing StarshipTroopers in the scene na 1st time magpaandar ng carrier si denise richards, naging boomy na sya. then i tried covering the port of my sub, nabawasan. when i set the fronts to small, nawala yung boominess, kaso nga lang, patay naman yung ibang low freq. ang question ko e, will it be safe to cover the ports of the 8.3? o baka masira ang 8.3 pagcovered ang port nya?

btw, naka -20db na ang LFE control of the yammy440. wala ring xover controls ang sub.

salamats

try getting a powered sub with with crossover control. this way, it would be easier to integrate the sub with the rest of the speakers.

cheers!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: antukin on May 20, 2004 at 05:17 PM
thanks so much for your replies, sirs kimpao, avphile, and johnlen.  well, i don't have any provisions for a new sub, neither do i have enough space for proper placement. i have 19" from the rear and 14" on one side. the fronts are only 36" apart.  :(

i forgot to post that i also tested hellfreezesover, bob, and nemo.  there were no boominess. kaasar lang kasi yung tweak on every movie. ehehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 20, 2004 at 06:46 PM
Antukin,

Sa Dvd disc yan sir... if you want try this way.. first turn off your Sub volume to zero then so walang sound then turn your AVR volume up to the level your familiar or highest level you can tolerate then from there adjust your sub match the level of the other speaker to your preference.. at least next time kahit anong volume di magover yun sub against over speaker mo.. for HT now for audio.. ganun din tapos lagyan mo na ng mark yun volume levels. for HT and audio.. pero if your AVR have separate levels of LFE for audio and HT mas ok sir..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: antukin on May 20, 2004 at 08:08 PM
tnx hans & france. this is wat i actually did last monday. i tried the combi of 1) small w/ sub 2) large without sub 3) large w/ sub, also the tone and vol settings of the sub for (1) and (3). i also tried this with audio, though i prefer not using the sub with audio only.

akala nga siguro ng family and neighbors ko e nababaliw na ko dahil paulit ulit ang mga scenes sa testing na ginagawa ko. siguro nga baliw nako sa hobby na to. ehehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on May 21, 2004 at 10:09 AM
d malayo bro........... hehehehe..............peace! ;D

Quote
akala nga siguro ng family and neighbors ko e nababaliw na ko dahil paulit ulit ang mga scenes sa testing na ginagawa ko. siguro nga baliw nako sa hobby na to. ehehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 21, 2004 at 02:10 PM
antukin,

Sir start lang yan... HT ba... wait till you get to audio.. wawawaw.. :'( :'(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on May 21, 2004 at 02:20 PM
kuya hans,

musta nga pala speakers mo >:D >:D >:D "KABOOM" na ba dun sa Magic CD. Ahehehehehe. Kakatakot gamitin yan 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: antukin on May 21, 2004 at 02:24 PM
antukin,

Sir start lang yan... HT ba... wait till you get to audio.. wawawaw.. :'( :'(

well, i'm not really into audio. mahilig lang ako mag audio kapag nasa auto & office. pero sa bahay ht talaga. 1s a week lang ako nakakanood e.

i'm more into playing the music. baka meron din ditong enthusiast in making acoustic guitar tube amps, papaturo ako  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 21, 2004 at 02:25 PM
kimpao,

pre overnight ko lagay.. hehehe lumabas konti vocals
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 21, 2004 at 02:35 PM
antukin,

DIY ba.. si JojoD can help you.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: antukin on May 21, 2004 at 02:57 PM
naku bakit mo ko binigyan ng kontak. mahihiritan na naman ako ni misis pag may nakita syang bagong kinakalikot na gear sa bahay. i'll look for jojoD.

salamats
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 21, 2004 at 03:27 PM
antukin,

your welcome sir...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on May 21, 2004 at 04:07 PM
sir hans,

musta na evo mo? my marked improvement naba since the session? even without the monarchy, hehehe.

mukhang na miss ko rin yan e.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 21, 2004 at 04:26 PM
wanderlust,

Funny sir.. when we just played music without the DAC.. mas natural ang music one track we thought somebody snap his fingers..and knock yun pala eh yun CD lang pala.. btw next session present ulit EVO30 sa pushpull showdown.. request ni Sir Jetok..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on May 21, 2004 at 04:38 PM
wanderlust,

Funny sir.. when we just played music without the DAC.. mas natural ang music one track we thought somebody snap his fingers..and knock yun pala eh yun CD lang pala.. btw next session present ulit EVO30 sa pushpull showdown.. request ni Sir Jetok..

its probable because overkill na yong pagsasala, bro mo from hk to the monarchy tapos preamp, then  tube amp......

oo, dapat andon Evo mo uli para my babantayan ka na naman, hehehe, joke lang. kidding aside, it would be a better gauge for comparison since we heard it na during the last session, how it fairs now with push and pull amps..... or better termed, how the push and pull fairs using the same set of speakers.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on May 21, 2004 at 04:41 PM
If thats the case I will bring my monoblocks....sino tutulong magbuhat? hehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on May 21, 2004 at 04:44 PM
If thats the cae I will bring my monoblocks....sino tutulong magbuhat? hehehe

sama ako ha!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on May 21, 2004 at 04:46 PM
ako sir, kung maaga aga ako abangan kita. ganda yan, d ko pa narinig yan humataw e, wla kasi yan during the last session no?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on May 21, 2004 at 04:47 PM


its probable because overkill na yong pagsasala, bro mo from hk to the monarchy tapos preamp, then  tube amp......

oo, dapat andon Evo mo uli para my babantayan ka na naman, hehehe, joke lang. kidding aside, it would be a better gauge for comparison since we heard it na during the last session, how it fairs now with push and pull amps..... or better termed, how the push and pull fairs using the same set of speakers.

Sir,

pushpull amps has more power than SETs. definitely the evos can be driven easily by these amp. even my 12 watt push pullcan easily drive akyat's MS908 :o :o Definitely, you'll be hering a more dynamic tubey sound than SETs, andun din yung highs, mids but mids are not as sweet sounding as SETs.  definitely this should be a must hear for you bros >:D >:D  >:D especially for those who prefer all around performer tube amps. >:D >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on May 21, 2004 at 04:55 PM
hehehe.... another level of SARS infection is what you most probably mean sir kimpao....

on the other hand, at least i have enough room/experience to make a better judgement before i bite the dust.....

peace tayo...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on May 21, 2004 at 05:02 PM
hehehe.... another level of SARS infection is what you most probably mean sir kimpao....

on the other hand, at least i have enough room/experience to make a better judgement before i bite the dust.....

peace tayo...

Ahahahaha!!!! Pero bro, tama yan! Pakinggan mo muna lahat before making the final choice para iwas pagkakamali din. :)

I'll try to bring both my vintage amps so you can also compare these amps against newer tube amps >:D >:D >:D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on May 21, 2004 at 05:10 PM
wala pa kasi kaming alam sa tube kaya hanggang dinig lang muna hehehe

samahan mo na ng konting lecture  ;D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on May 21, 2004 at 06:59 PM
wala pa kasi kaming alam sa tube kaya hanggang dinig lang muna hehehe

samahan mo na ng konting lecture  ;D >:D

nakowwwwwwww simula na yan hehehehe nagsasama ka pa kay kimpao level 10 na ans SARS nyan



















peace tayo kim ha :P :P
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 21, 2004 at 07:00 PM
Punk_kid,

Quote
samahan mo na ng konting lecture 

 
OT...SenyoR technical ba??? naku problema more of SOUND quality kami than spec sir...hehehehhe joke onli...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on May 21, 2004 at 07:03 PM
Punk_kid,


 
 
OT...SenyoR technical ba??? naku problema more of SOUND quality kami than spec sir...hehehehhe joke onli...


tama ka don kuya hans hehehe let your ear decide then your pocket  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on May 21, 2004 at 07:05 PM


nakowwwwwwww simula na yan hehehehe nagsasama ka pa kay kimpao level 10 na ans SARS nyan



















peace tayo kim ha :P :P

pag-tumabi sa akin yan kailangan naka-hasmat yan!!! Kundi Level 10 kaagad ang SARS niyan (simot ang gears, palit ng bago lahat yan)!!!!!!!Ahahahahaha ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 21, 2004 at 07:09 PM
SenyoR kimpao,

Baka you can bring your B4??? para naman meron ka partner yun EVO30 para di tayo OT...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on May 22, 2004 at 12:46 PM
SenyoR kimpao,

Baka you can bring your B4??? para naman meron ka partner yun EVO30 para di tayo OT...

dadalhin uli yong 1st Speaker Stress test and then shoot out sa EVo30 ba kuya hans?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 24, 2004 at 08:49 AM
J_albert,

Pre was at Kimpao house yesterday... mukhang wag na dalhin yun B4... hehehhe mapapahiya yun speaker ko  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on May 24, 2004 at 08:54 AM

nakowwwwwwww simula na yan hehehehe nagsasama ka pa kay kimpao level 10 na ans SARS nyan


OT, gusto ko lang malaman konti sa tube amp ehehehe pero la pa kong balak bumili nyan
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on May 24, 2004 at 08:54 AM
J_albert,

Pre was at Kimpao house yesterday... mukhang wag na dalhin yun B4... hehehhe mapapahiya yun speaker ko  ;D ;D

oks lang yan pre... dba sabi nga ni sir isak... after 4 years break-in na yang evo mo.... hehehe 3 1/2 years na lang iintayin mo.. peace tayo kuya....  ;D  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on May 24, 2004 at 10:06 AM
Kabit mo na Hans sa hafler at iwan mo ng 2 weeks... at 12 o'clock volume setting. Ahehehehe...  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on May 24, 2004 at 12:07 PM
Kabit mo na Hans sa hafler at iwan mo ng 2 weeks... at 12 o'clock volume setting. Ahehehehe...  >:D

KABOOOM!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on May 24, 2004 at 12:11 PM
Kabit mo na Hans sa hafler at iwan mo ng 2 weeks... at 12 o'clock volume setting. Ahehehehe...  >:D

pre ilang beses ko nang cnabi yan  >:D >:Dkaso natatakot hehehe  ;D ;D ;D (precious Pacific EVO 30) kc nakita nya noon yong kay DON ST kimpao kung pano magresponse yung B4 sa hafler (kaso di makapalag noon c DON ST kimpao dahil dami nakaharap baka magalit kaya dinaan na lang sa pag-inom nang coke sa gilid lagok nang lagok ;D ;D ;D ;D peace tayo kim).... O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on May 24, 2004 at 02:39 PM
Preng Bong,

Kevlar naman yung Evo30! Di nga tatablan ng bala yan!! BREAK-IN NA!!  ;D  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on May 24, 2004 at 02:52 PM
Preng Bong,

Kevlar naman yung Evo30! Di nga tatablan ng bala yan!! BREAK-IN NA!!  ;D  >:D

ot..pre mixed-up yung name mo.. si henry si hans.. si bong si j_albert22.. heheehe  ;D  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on May 24, 2004 at 03:23 PM
Sir,

Kay master j_albert22 naka address talaga yung post ko... pinariringgan namin si master Hans.



ot..pre mixed-up yung name mo.. si henry si hans.. si bong si j_albert22.. heheehe  ;D  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on May 24, 2004 at 03:53 PM
Sir,

Kay master j_albert22 naka address talaga yung post ko... pinariringgan namin si master Hans.




ay sori master...  ;D  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 24, 2004 at 06:34 PM
Slayer & J_albert,


Magsitigil kayooooooooooo!!!.... abangan..... at maghanda....sa session... at
















wla na tayong food for lunch hehehehe..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 26, 2004 at 04:16 PM
punk_kid,

Quote
OT, gusto ko lang malaman konti sa tube amp ehehehe pero la pa kong balak bumili nyan


Pre dyan din ako nagstart sa tube..  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on May 26, 2004 at 04:31 PM
kuya hans,

lam ko na ibig mong sabihin  ;D ;D ;D

OT na tayo dito baka ma ban tayo ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on May 27, 2004 at 01:09 PM
Slayer & J_albert,


Magsitigil kayooooooooooo!!!.... abangan..... at maghanda....sa session... at
















wla na tayong food for lunch hehehehe..

ok lang basta may tubig coke at siopao oki na yon hehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 27, 2004 at 03:34 PM
J_albert,

No problem will bring Evo30 basta meron na tayong venue... hehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: akyatbundok on May 31, 2004 at 01:50 PM
guys, what's the best receiver to match with Diamond 8.3's ?

my friend is planning to buy a complete setup, probably based on the wharf diamonds... complete with receiver, DVD player and cables... total budget is 50k... 2nd hand welcome as long as it's a relatively new model.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on May 31, 2004 at 01:52 PM
Sir HK/Wharf all the way yan!!  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on May 31, 2004 at 01:55 PM
HK5500 gusto mo? :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on May 31, 2004 at 01:57 PM
Depende sir! kumg 50/50 audio and HT ok na ok ang HK pero kung leaning towards HT yammies. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: akyatbundok on May 31, 2004 at 02:10 PM
HK5500 gusto mo? :D

kaya magbigay ng kalansing sa soft-dome tweeter ng diamond ang HK?  sir iceman, kasya kaya sa 50k budget kung mag-diamond speakers and entry level player?  kasama na pala sa budget yung sub.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on May 31, 2004 at 02:15 PM


kaya magbigay ng kalansing sa soft-dome tweeter ng diamond ang HK?  sir iceman, kasya kaya sa 50k budget kung mag-diamond speakers and entry level player?  kasama na pala sa budget yung sub.

kung ibibigay ni sir iceman ng 20K yung HK5500 mau-una na ako sa inyo kahit sa laguna pa yan. ;D ;D ;D ;D  sir iceman, joke only. feeeeeesh tayooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on May 31, 2004 at 02:20 PM
Lets see:

Diamond
8.3 - 6,800
8.1 - 4,200
cntr- 4,800

Sub
Nirv - 6,500

HK - 27,800

he he he pwede :D

si Slayer makaka sagot kung kakalansing Wharfes sa HK... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on May 31, 2004 at 02:27 PM
sir kulang pa ng dvd player  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on May 31, 2004 at 02:29 PM
sir kulang pa ng dvd player  :D

tsaka na yun! hihihi

este - i card na lang yun :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on May 31, 2004 at 02:30 PM
Sir iceman,

Balita ko tumaas naraw Wharfedale... nasa 7k+ na ang 8.3!!

Kumakalansin naman ang silkdome ng 8.3 ko... paird with my measly HK2550.  >:D

Lets see:

Diamond
8.3 - 6,800
8.1 - 4,200
cntr- 4,800

Sub
Nirv - 6,500

HK - 27,800

he he he pwede :D

si Slayer makaka sagot kung kakalansing Wharfes sa HK... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on May 31, 2004 at 02:35 PM
Lets see:

Diamond
8.3 - 6,800
8.1 - 4,200
cntr- 4,800

Sub
Nirv - 6,500

HK - 27,800

he he he pwede :D

si Slayer makaka sagot kung kakalansing Wharfes sa HK... ;D

sir mas maganda kaya para maka-mura is dtx nalang yung surrounds tapos dq-12 sa sub. or mag wharf crystals nalang for center, front and rear. :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on May 31, 2004 at 02:45 PM
teka Sir kayo ng Sir parang antanda ko na ah!
(huwag din Ma'am ha) :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on May 31, 2004 at 02:47 PM
O sige, kuya nalang.... ;D ;D ;D Ahihihi
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on May 31, 2004 at 02:53 PM
Ok sir! Nyak! Ahehehe... ;D

teka Sir kayo ng Sir parang antanda ko na ah!
(huwag din Ma'am ha) :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on May 31, 2004 at 02:54 PM
ht ko dati yamy lang gamit ko...... all wharfs din speakers. ok naman pro, when it comes to audio, aba'y ibang usapan na.

btw, i was using a dq-12 as sw.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: cousin skeeter on May 31, 2004 at 03:04 PM
am falling in love with my diamonds again ;D ;D. am using them now in my bedroom with my opa549 gc amp and they sound excellent for easy listening. sometimes kasi the b2s highs get irritating especially with rock music, so now wharfs nman. pag masawa na sa diamonds, swap again with the b2 sa living room, hehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 31, 2004 at 06:00 PM
Akyat,

I'll go for Iceman HK5500 then get 8.3, WH-2 center and surrounds... sub USaudio 8" or 12" ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: akyatbundok on May 31, 2004 at 06:44 PM
hmmmmm sige i'll ask him kung ok sa kanya lumampas ng 50k..... pero i doubt it mga pare, di naman daw niya balak patalbugin ang sinehan hehehe.... di na kasya ang DVD player & cables sa budget na 50k.... lampas kalahati ng budget amp pa lang hehehe.... how about yung lower model na HK3550 nakita ko sa B&S section 16k na lang.... kaya ba nun i-drive ang 8.3?  haaayyy pati ako nalilito, kung ako kasi unti-unti ko bibilihin eh, hindi yun isang bagsakan lang.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on May 31, 2004 at 06:46 PM
Kayng kaya ng 3550 yan sir!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on May 31, 2004 at 06:50 PM
Akyat,

Kahit 2550 paired mo sa Diamond 8.3 sir kaya may sub ka naman eh for LFE.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: akyatbundok on May 31, 2004 at 06:55 PM
ty sa mga suggestions..... yoko pa naman mapahiya........salamas!

spectra might be a good place to audition right?  hirap pag audition time na, nagbabago palagi ang plano..... ang budget tumataas!! .....at ang brand ng gears nagiiba rin depende sa husay ng audition..... hopefully pag audition namin maganda ang pagka-setup.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on May 31, 2004 at 06:57 PM
sir akyat mas ok sa spectra eastwood hindi magulo at ideal yung space dahil pahaba. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: BGA VI on May 31, 2004 at 09:11 PM
sir akyat,

si sir isak0411 binebenta yung denon 1603, 12.5k lang may warranty pa,  bago pa yun ilan months palang gamit.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on May 31, 2004 at 09:22 PM
or check out the NAD T770 na binebenta sa buy&sell thread - that would be more than enough for the diamond 8.3, mura pa :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on May 31, 2004 at 11:56 PM
sir, nad at buy and sell thread doesn't have DTS :-\ DD lang, pre. :-\
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Jun 01, 2004 at 07:00 AM
sir akyat mas ok sa spectra eastwood hindi magulo at ideal yung space dahil pahaba. :)

maganda pa rin nandon palagi c jim makakahingi ka pa discount
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 01, 2004 at 07:45 AM
Akyat,

Spectra ba... just mention J_albert less 50% agad!!.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jun 01, 2004 at 10:59 AM
Master,

Welcome kayo sa bahay... home audition my 2550/8.3 and dq-12 combo.  ;D

ty sa mga suggestions..... yoko pa naman mapahiya........salamas!

spectra might be a good place to audition right?  hirap pag audition time na, nagbabago palagi ang plano..... ang budget tumataas!! .....at ang brand ng gears nagiiba rin depende sa husay ng audition..... hopefully pag audition namin maganda ang pagka-setup.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jun 01, 2004 at 11:32 AM
Master,

Welcome kayo sa bahay... home audition my 2550/8.3 and dq-12 combo.  ;D




kami hindi :-\ :-\ kala ko diyan gaganapin yung susunod na tube amp shootout para naman marinig natin sa diamond 8.3 (para hindi OT).Ahehehehehe ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: zakkaz on Jun 01, 2004 at 04:21 PM
sir akyat mas ok sa spectra eastwood hindi magulo at ideal yung space dahil pahaba. :)
ang alam ko iba ang name nila dun
i think the name of the store is AUDIO EXCELLANCE
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jun 01, 2004 at 04:25 PM

ang alam ko iba ang name nila dun
i think the name of the store is AUDIO EXCELLANCE

ah ok. naipaskil na pala nila sa labas yun name nung shop. ahehhehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 03, 2004 at 08:45 AM
Kimpao,

Pre ok ba pacific Evo8?? hehehehe bili na!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jun 03, 2004 at 11:13 AM
Kimpao,

Pre ok ba pacific Evo8?? hehehehe bili na!!

Oo pre! Confirmed ang ganda niya sa tube amp. small speakers yet big sound.  Bass was that of an evo30. Ahehehehehe ;D ;D ;D ;D Kuya feeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssshhhhhhhh tayoooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 03, 2004 at 05:28 PM
Kimpao,

OT btw just bought my amp for tweaks.. heheheh idol ko ngayon amp ni Jetok.. ;D ;D  pre talaga naman maganda Evo 8 sa tubes.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: akyatbundok on Jun 03, 2004 at 05:44 PM
confirmed sir!  evo 8 is a major contender.... ganda pa ng looks, sana magkaroon ng piano black.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jun 03, 2004 at 05:52 PM
confirmed sir!  evo 8 is a major contender.... ganda pa ng looks, sana magkaroon ng piano black.

sir text mo si jetok! alamko he was able to get a price quote in singapore regarding piano finish for pacific evo.  if i remember ang kwento niya sir is almost half the price ang additional for the piano finish.  parang ang lalabas is kung evo 8 at 12k mga 18k kung piano finish, parang ganun sir.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: akyatbundok on Jun 03, 2004 at 05:54 PM
nakupo.... makakabili na ko ng 2nd hand B4 nyan.... isip ulet.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 03, 2004 at 05:56 PM
Akyat & Kimpao,

So if your scouting for bookshelf ito kasama na sa list nyo?? hehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jun 03, 2004 at 05:57 PM
nakupo.... makakabili na ko ng 2nd hand B4 nyan.... isip ulet.
gusto mo sir bili ka ng evo 8 ako mismo magva-varnish i oven bake pa natin para mas makintab. ano gusto mo du-pont o sikkens ang top coat? Ahehehehehe >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Jun 03, 2004 at 06:00 PM

gusto mo sir bili ka ng evo 8 ako mismo magva-varnish i oven bake pa natin para mas makintab. ano gusto mo du-pont o sikkens ang top coat? Ahehehehehe >:D >:D

magandang proposition yan...magkano charge mo? hehehe ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jun 03, 2004 at 06:01 PM
Akyat & Kimpao,

So if your scouting for bookshelf ito kasama na sa list nyo?? hehehehe


Syempre Master!!!!!! unang-una sa listahan yan! ;D :D :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jun 03, 2004 at 06:02 PM


magandang proposition yan...magkano charge mo? hehehe ;D

kape at yosi lang yan sir!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Jun 03, 2004 at 06:08 PM
evo10 kaya ok??? sige pagiisipan ko yang evo8 8)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: akyatbundok on Jun 03, 2004 at 06:24 PM
Akyat & Kimpao,

So if your scouting for bookshelf ito kasama na sa list nyo?? hehehehe

yup.... yan pinakapogi sa 12k price range eh.... nasa listahan ko: evo8, evo1, es14.... tentative lang naman hindi pa seryosong bibili dahil di pa ko nakakaluwag sa finances..... eh di ba mas mura yun lunch box na amp baka yun na lang hehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jun 03, 2004 at 06:25 PM


yup.... yan pinakapogi sa 12k price range eh.... nasa listahan ko: evo8, evo1, es14.... tentative lang naman hindi pa seryosong bibili dahil di pa ko nakakaluwag sa finances.

isang sansui amp at accuphase amp lang yan! Yakang yaka mo yan sir!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: akyatbundok on Jun 03, 2004 at 06:36 PM
isang sansui amp at accuphase amp lang yan! Yakang yaka mo yan sir!

nyeheks... mapapabenta ko ng peborit ss amp nyan hehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jun 03, 2004 at 06:54 PM
evo10 kaya ok??? sige pagiisipan ko yang evo8 8)

IMHO, the 8 sounds sweeter than the 10. Just me, sir. 8)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 04, 2004 at 08:17 AM


IMHO, the 8 sounds sweeter than the 10. Just me, sir. 8)



Senyor Kimpao,

Kung ganun di EVo8 na....

Akyat,

Sir oo nga naman nakastock lang sila eh why waste...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jun 04, 2004 at 10:36 AM


Senyor Kimpao,

Kung ganun di EVo8 na....


Esep esep muna dahil dami nakapila. RTX, preamp, wires.......... hay :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ pero one thing i've notice last night is that basts't kaya i-drive ng tube amp yung speakers kahit cheapy-cheapy na speakers, gumaganda. ;D ;D  was able to test my crystal 10 paired with the st70, ganda rin!  nice imaging and detail.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 04, 2004 at 10:40 AM
kimpao,

Tama easy lang muna... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jun 04, 2004 at 10:43 AM
OT lang.

Master, ano sabi nung friend mo tungkol dun sa passive attenuator niya?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 04, 2004 at 10:47 AM
Kimpao,

text you update sir..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 09, 2004 at 04:15 AM
OT lang.

Master, ano sabi nung friend mo tungkol dun sa passive attenuator niya?

Senyor Kimpao,

Nabenta nya na raw yun attenuator nya.. sorry OT
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 15, 2004 at 09:15 AM
SenoR ST kimpao,

Mali ata source natin sa Evo8 hahahaha :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jun 15, 2004 at 09:19 AM
napahiya tuloy kami ni hans pag congrats sa bagong evo8 ni john ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Jun 15, 2004 at 09:25 AM
relax lang darating din tayo sa evo8 na yan ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jun 15, 2004 at 10:38 AM
Kimpao,

text you update sir..

Ongiiii  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 15, 2004 at 10:42 AM
SenoR Kimpao,

OT..Musta pala passive preamp?? ok ba gusto mo active??  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jun 15, 2004 at 10:44 AM
SenoR Kimpao,

OT..Musta pala passive preamp?? ok ba gusto mo active??  >:D >:D

Yan ang hirap sir pag naka-rinig na ng active tapos tube pa! :'( :'( :'( pero on the other hand Pwede na rin! ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 15, 2004 at 10:45 AM


Yan ang hirap sir pag naka-rinig na ng active tapos tube pa! :'( :'( :'( pero on the other hand Pwede na rin! ;D

OT since wala yun power amp ko pwede mo borrow muna yun preamp sir..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 22, 2004 at 12:36 PM
guys,

Learn from Jim spectra meron daw Pacific Evo30 available... will check it out Saturday..  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Jun 22, 2004 at 12:39 PM
guys,

Learn from Jim spectra meron daw Pacific Evo30 available... will check it out Saturday..  >:D >:D

hmmmmmm. ................... naghahanap nang karamay hehehehe >:D ....................pis tayo ;D     
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: bayonic on Jun 22, 2004 at 12:44 PM
hi guys,

currently canvassing prices for my first ever HT ...

wondering how much a new pair of wharfedale evo 10 costs in Manila ... ( or an EVO8 for that matter )

here in HK , i saw a pair going for 5440 HKD or roughly 40K pesos



thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 22, 2004 at 12:46 PM
hi guys,

currently canvassing prices for my first ever HT ...

wondering how much a new pair of wharfedale evo 10 costs in Manila ... ( or an EVO8 for that matter )

here in HK , i saw a pair going for 5440 HKD or roughly 40K pesos

thanks.

Sir Evo8 would be around P12k while Evo10 is P15k to P16k..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 22, 2004 at 12:47 PM


hmmmmmm. ................... naghahanap nang karamay hehehehe >:D ....................pis tayo ;D     

Di naman hehehehe... pero iba na nauna masarap... >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: bayonic on Jun 22, 2004 at 12:55 PM


Sir Evo8 would be around P12k while Evo10 is P15k to P16k..

hello H&F ...... ( bodybuilder ka rin ba ??? :) )

pasensiya ka na at baguhan lang ako pero yung presyo na yan eh isang pares ?? at brand-new ??

if both your answers are yes ... where can I go to get a pair ???

tsaka isa pa pala .... sa naguumpisa , ano ba dapat unahin ? yung receiver or speakers ? or dapat receiver and at least the front speakers

salamat

 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 22, 2004 at 01:02 PM


hello H&F ...... ( bodybuilder ka rin ba ??? :) )

pasensiya ka na at baguhan lang ako pero yung presyo na yan eh isang pares ?? at brand-new ??

if both your answers are yes ... where can I go to get a pair ???

tsaka isa pa pala .... sa naguumpisa , ano ba dapat unahin ? yung receiver or speakers ? or dapat receiver and at least the front speakers

salamat

 


Pre the prices are in pair na... you can audition the Pacifie Evo speakers at Spectra Park square 1.. start with your speaker...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Jun 22, 2004 at 01:11 PM


Di naman hehehehe... pero iba na nauna masarap... >:D

kaya pag may problema ikaw ang unang tatakbuhan  ;D ;D ;D marami kang matatanggapp na sir, sir ano nag ..sir bakit....etc ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 23, 2004 at 03:38 PM
J-albert,

di naman siguro.. hehehhee ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Jul 01, 2004 at 08:48 AM
question: Sino distributor ng Wharfedale sa Phils.? any contact numbers?

ty
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 01, 2004 at 05:14 PM
From Wharfedale's website:

PHILIPPINES MICRO ACOUSTICS IND INC MR HERBERT CO +63-2-8526706 +63-2-8520029 [email protected]
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 01, 2004 at 05:26 PM
mukhang magtatayo na rin ng shop si vince, distributor na ang kokontakin!  ;D ;D sir fishhhhh tayooooo!!!!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 01, 2004 at 09:58 PM
SenyoR Kimpao,

Pwede pwede... >:D >:D para naman meron akong extra discount..


Sir Iceman,

Accomodating yan si Herbert....  :) :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Jul 02, 2004 at 06:55 AM
thanks - pero may nagpapatanong lang :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 05, 2004 at 07:59 PM
Iceman,

Ok yan sir...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 05, 2004 at 11:06 PM
Tsk tsk tsk...

It has been already said a couple of times... 1st stage of SARS... DENIAL!!!

thanks - pero may nagpapatanong lang :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 06, 2004 at 08:59 AM
slayer,

Ha... if thats the case... hirap pala SARS. :D :D :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 07, 2004 at 11:10 AM
sinabi mo sir!

buti na lng my gamot pa, yon nga lang pamsamantala lang, at meron ako yan ngayon. hehehe. kaya SARS lumayo layo k muna.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 07, 2004 at 09:19 PM
sinabi mo sir!

buti na lng my gamot pa, yon nga lang pamsamantala lang, at meron ako yan ngayon. hehehe. kaya SARS lumayo layo k muna.

Sir SARS lalapit yan after you bring your speaker sa push pull shootout.. >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 07, 2004 at 11:45 PM
sinabi mo sir!

buti na lng my gamot pa, yon nga lang pamsamantala lang, at meron ako yan ngayon. hehehe. kaya SARS lumayo layo k muna.

sir wanderlust, heto na kami ng SARS! Ahehehehehe ;D ;D >:D >:D Sir musta nga pala bago mong toy?

Master Hans, kamusta EVO30 broken-in na ba? :D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: chatstix on Jul 08, 2004 at 07:20 AM
How does one know if the wharfedales (spec. diamond 8.4) that are being sold here is made in china or uk? Are there any identifications printed on the speakers?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 08, 2004 at 07:24 AM
chatstix,

Sir usually they indicate it at the back of the speaker.. i think diamond series available here are China made..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 08, 2004 at 07:27 AM


Master Hans, kamusta EVO30 broken-in na ba? :D



senYOR Don ST,

Ready na po... kailan ba yan shootout?? >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 08, 2004 at 07:30 AM
Senor Don ST kimpao,

Can i suggest instead of Pacific Evo30 lets try Diamond 8.3?? >:D >:D or can we include 8.3 on the list?? ::) ::) ::)





Slayer,

Get ready... oppps ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: chatstix on Jul 08, 2004 at 07:44 AM
Thank you sir for the quick reply.

I inspected the back of a diamond 8.4 unit, and the country I saw on the back is England.  No China printed at the back.  What do you think?

chatstix,

Sir usually they indicate it at the back of the speaker.. i think diamond series available here are China made..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 08, 2004 at 08:36 AM
Chatstix,

Btw where did you saw or bought the 8.4?? if its local then china made po..  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: chatstix on Jul 08, 2004 at 08:49 AM
hans & france,

I saw it at tech central, makati cinema square.  Guess it's made in china then. Auditioned it there and I find the sound impressive for such a cheap price.  But when it was switched to a b&w speakers (I don't know the model, but it's a bookshelf type), b&w sounded better but it's not enough to justify almost 3x higher than the price of the diamond 8.4.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 08, 2004 at 08:57 AM
my previous wharf speakers were made from china. well, nowadays, locally made speaker are now manufactured by asian countries especially china.

hans,

ready na pala ung evo30 mo sa shoot out, dapat may mag volunteer magdala ng 8.3 para maconfirm namin ung sinasabi nyo ni kim na bagay din ito sa tot....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 08, 2004 at 09:54 AM
Go ang 8.3 ko... wag lang sa naotorious na Hafler na yan!! Ahahahaha...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Jul 08, 2004 at 10:00 AM
Go ang 8.3 ko... wag lang sa naotorious na Hafler na yan!! Ahahahaha...  ;D

kaya yan pre... break-in naman na yang 8.3 mo e.. saka kabit natin sa bagong tube ni master hans.. sana nakuha na nyan before the session.. para mahawa ka na din nila master...  ;)  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 08, 2004 at 10:35 AM
master sebman,

Di puwede mahawahan... walang pondo ngayon! Ahehehhe...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 08, 2004 at 11:02 AM
slayer,

madugo nga kung hafler gagamitin baka matanggal yung cone ng driver mo hehehe....

dapat ma try sa PP amp yan, may padating kong konting pondo hehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 08, 2004 at 11:04 AM
Mga sirs, maganda sa hafler yan! ;D :o pagkatapos niyan broken ay este .............. broken-in na yan. ;D >:D ;D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 08, 2004 at 11:13 AM
ganda nga ng resulta nyan, broke na 8.3 mo ahahaha
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 08, 2004 at 05:17 PM


Sir SARS lalapit yan after you bring your speaker sa push pull shootout.. >:D >:D

d sir, mas malakas AIDS ko ngayon eh, hehehe.  kaya lang......



sir wanderlust, heto na kami ng SARS! Ahehehehehe ;D ;D >:D >:D Sir musta nga pala bago mong toy?

lumayo kayo..... yo ....... yo...... yo......

the best sir, laking pag babago ng system ko! Heavenly! salamas sa SARS mo sir ha! hehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 09, 2004 at 07:20 AM
Slayer,

8.3 paired with Hafler... prepare yourself at baka bilhin mo agad yun amp..  ;D ;D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 09, 2004 at 09:53 AM
Nako sir... ala tayong pondo kahit gusto ko man... ahehehe...  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: BGA VI on Jul 09, 2004 at 10:04 AM
mga sir, kelan ba shootout sama ko ? saan ? ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 09, 2004 at 07:15 PM
Go ang 8.3 ko...

Get ready Don Slayer... malapit na..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 11, 2004 at 08:24 PM
slayer,

Amo ayos ba 8.3 sa tube??  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 11, 2004 at 10:32 PM
Master Hans,

AYOS!! Binugbog niyo 8.3 ko! ahehehe... swabe pre!! Nawawala din pala yung 8.3 pag tinubo!!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 12, 2004 at 11:38 AM
Saludo ako dyan sa 8.3 ni slayer - nakakabilib ang tunog!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 12, 2004 at 11:49 AM
ang ganda ng 8.3 mo sir slayer! lalim ng bass! parang naka seperate sub!

naka tweak ba yan?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 12, 2004 at 11:59 AM
pwede pala talaga yung 8.3 sa tot.... ;D



lengga tunog!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 12, 2004 at 12:08 PM
8.3 ko binugbog ng AMX David1 preamp tsaka AMX EL34 PP. PUWEDE!!  >:D

(http://www.phlog.net/pics/b1/b1e0fc8ca534f20690872ae10d658951.jpg)

Sir wanderlust,

No tweak sir... di ko parin nasa-sandfilled.  ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 12, 2004 at 12:16 PM
d naman nabugbog eh....




nalamog lang  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Jul 12, 2004 at 12:25 PM
di ako naimbita dito ha..sayang di ko nadinig >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 12, 2004 at 12:37 PM
wala pang tweak yan ha! abay kung na tweak pa pala yan at na sandfilled heaven na! nakuw, punk_kid eto na ang sagot sa matagal mo ng tanong sakin, kung ok ba ang ang 8.3!

takbo na sa tindahan pre! >:D

 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 12, 2004 at 12:52 PM
Sarap talaga manghawa ng SARS!!!!! >:D ;D >:D ;D Sino naman kaya ang tinamaan. Mwehehehehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 12, 2004 at 01:01 PM
Parang commercial...

"Sa hirap nang buhay ngayon...  BAWAL MAGKASAKIT!" Aehehehehe...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 12, 2004 at 04:07 PM
Hanap ka ng construction site para makahingi ng buhangin! Tapos salain mo muna para yun pino lang makuha mo. Kawawa naman magbubuhat nyan speakers mo.

Sumakit bewang ko sa pagbuhat ng amp ni Jet!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 12, 2004 at 04:16 PM
Sir Jojo,

Nung nag email ako sa Wharfedale... sabi nila dapat daw Kiln dried sand lang daw... ahehehee... san kaya meron nun?! Tsaka malaki daw difference.  :o  :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 12, 2004 at 04:19 PM
Sir Jojo,

Nung nag email ako sa Wharfedale... sabi nila dapat daw Kiln dried sand lang daw... ahehehee... san kaya meron nun?! Tsaka malaki daw difference.  :o  :o

Ang alam ko lang Kiln dried eh lumber eh?!? Meron pala Kiln dried na sand  ???.

Hanap kita, madami ako kilala hardware stores.  ;) Konti lang naman kailangan diba?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 12, 2004 at 04:26 PM
baka pinong kiln dired na wood yun ahihihihih
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 12, 2004 at 04:27 PM
Di ko lang alam sir... di ko pa nagagalaw yung bung sa likod... para dapat daw half-filled. Si kimpao ata na sandfill na niya yung Crystals niya.  ;D



Ang alam ko lang Kiln dried eh lumber eh?!? Meron pala Kiln dried na sand  ???.

Hanap kita, madami ako kilala hardware stores.  ;) Konti lang naman kailangan diba?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 12, 2004 at 04:38 PM
Punk_kid,

bka naman sawdust yun sinasabi mo? hehehe

slayer,

tanong muna tayo, malay mo meron talaga nun kiln dried na sand.

para tipid, pag nagpunta ka sa boracay eh maguwi ka na ng sand.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 12, 2004 at 04:43 PM
Oo nga... kukuha sana ako nung nakaraang summer... kaso Laiya Batangas sand lang! Ahehehehe...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 12, 2004 at 04:57 PM
kiln dried, eto yung, pinatuyo sa oven (mala oven baked). slayer, gamitin mo yung finewhite sand na ginagamit sa aquarium. meron ka makukunan niyan sa cartimar, 20/kilo (yung fine ang kunin mo). ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 12, 2004 at 04:58 PM
Punk_kid,

bka naman sawdust yun sinasabi mo? hehehe

slayer,

tanong muna tayo, malay mo meron talaga nun kiln dried na sand.

para tipid, pag nagpunta ka sa boracay eh maguwi ka na ng sand.  ;D

ok na alternatib yun sir ah, pure sand talaga kaya lang nakakahiya kung isang sako ang kukunin mong souvenir  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 12, 2004 at 05:00 PM


ok na alternatib yun sir ah, pure sand talaga kaya lang nakakahiya kung isang sako ang kukunin mong souvenir  ;D ;D ;D

Subukan niyo kumuha ng white sand sa mga beaches, "kulong" ang abot niyan. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 12, 2004 at 05:05 PM
palagay mo sa yung iba sa kasama nyo para may kasama ka sa kulungan hihihi

OT na tayo  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 12, 2004 at 05:08 PM
Maka ma charge tayo niyan sir pag check-in sa eroplano... 2Kg lang ang max per passenger.   ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 12, 2004 at 06:51 PM
Sabihin nyo lang remembrance lang kaya maguuwi kayo ng sand.

Pero nakita ko na din yun white fine sand sa cartimar and mas dense ito. kadalasan ginagamit sa salt water aquarium yun. kung maganda sa aquarium yun, i'm sure maganda din sa wharfs mo yun.  ;D ;D ;D

seriously, yun na ang da best, oven bake mo na lang para sure na tuyo.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 12, 2004 at 09:07 PM
Don Slayer,

Correction Rotel 1072 + Contodo preamp + Amx EL34 STC PP yun nangboubug sa 8.3 mo... report mo na sa police pre.. >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 12, 2004 at 11:13 PM
Don Slayer,

Correction Rotel 1072 + Contodo preamp + Amx EL34 STC PP yun nangboubug sa 8.3 mo... report mo na sa police pre.. >:D >:D >:D

sana sinama mo na din yun IC para kumpleto detalye sa report.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 12, 2004 at 11:54 PM


sana sinama mo na din yun IC para kumpleto detalye sa report.  ;D ;D ;D

report mo na sa pulis slayer, bilis at baka mag-tawag pa yan balita ko Hafler XL-280 daw ang resback niyan!  :o ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 13, 2004 at 10:00 AM
Naka blotter na po yung mga gumahasa sa 8.3 ko! ahehehe...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 13, 2004 at 10:12 AM
Naka blotter na po yung mga gumahasa sa 8.3 ko! ahehehe...  ;D

eh yun cd na round-up ang ginamit na panggahasa eh? yun pang cowboy.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: vvt-i on Jul 13, 2004 at 10:19 AM
slayer,

nakakabilib yung 8.3 mo gumagapang yung base (nalaglag tuloy yung curtain rod nila akayt)  :-[.  sa boracay ka kuha sand para pinong-pino. ahehehe ;D

akyat,

sorry  :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 13, 2004 at 10:37 AM
Sir Jojo,

Meron din ako niyan... Ahehehe... bang break-in ko yung track 1.  Yung "Mooooo" nung baka! Ahehehe...  ;D

Sir Jetok,

Yung Amp mo nagdala! ahehehe... buti hindi tayo napagalitan ni boss akyat!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 13, 2004 at 11:59 AM
Sana nga we had more time to listen, ang sarap pampatulog eh.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 13, 2004 at 01:04 PM
nga pala mga sir, ano yong speaker cable na dala ni bobby? belden ba yon? kasama dapat sa blotter yon!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 13, 2004 at 02:25 PM
wanderlust,

Mas nagustuhan ko yung Kimber ni boss akyat... mas airy kesa dun sa belden.... pero panalo parin yung belden. Hooked nga pala ito sa 8.3 para hindi OT.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 13, 2004 at 02:38 PM
di kaya dun sa amp yung pagka airy ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 13, 2004 at 04:23 PM
di kaya dun sa amp yung pagka airy ;D

i know what you mean...  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Jul 13, 2004 at 04:35 PM
master slayer.. panalo yung 8.3 mo.. ang mahiwagang tanong pa din e.. alin ba ang nagpaganda talaga... yung amx amp ni masters jetok and hans.. or yung cdp ni ST Paldo Kimpao?  ;D  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 13, 2004 at 04:35 PM
O sige na nga... less airy ang tamang term.  Ahehehee...

di kaya dun sa amp yung pagka airy ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 13, 2004 at 04:40 PM
master slayer.. panalo yung 8.3 mo.. ang mahiwagang tanong pa din e.. alin ba ang nagpaganda talaga... yung amx amp ni masters jetok and hans.. or yung cdp ni ST Paldo Kimpao?  ;D  :D

pre, ang masama niyan eh kung parehong amp at cdp. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Jul 13, 2004 at 04:42 PM


pre, ang masama niyan eh kung parehong amp at cdp. ;D ;D

ot.. pre masama nga yan.. pero nde bale.. meron na naman si slayer nung rotel cdp e..  ;D amx na ang pag-iipunan.. or baka naman mag-st 70 na rin yan... go go go slayer  ;D  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 13, 2004 at 04:53 PM
Hoy! OT na kayo!! Ahahahaha... mga walanghiya!! Bawal magkaSARS!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 13, 2004 at 05:41 PM
Actually it's not OT, because we're trying to figure out what made the Wharfs to sound so good.

Palusot pa oh.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 13, 2004 at 06:54 PM
Guys,

Grabe di pa rin nahuli kung ano nagdala??? syempre yun CONTODO preamp hehehehe >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 13, 2004 at 06:59 PM
Guys,

Galing ng 8.3 for the performance and sound.. best buy talaga!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 13, 2004 at 08:18 PM
Guys,

Galing ng 8.3 for the performance and sound.. best buy talaga!!

Nadali mo! For the price, it's a sure winner.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sillyputty on Jul 14, 2004 at 12:11 AM
from my experience on 8.4, ang kailangan ng wharfs e powerful amp.
pag ok yung amp, solb na solb ang wharfs. kumbaga e value for money winner.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: bravoexo on Jul 14, 2004 at 12:20 AM
my 8.4 's are paired with an HK AVR330...solb na solb!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 14, 2004 at 08:57 AM
Guys,

Grabe di pa rin nahuli kung ano nagdala??? syempre yun CONTODO preamp hehehehe >:D >:D

mali, yung belden speaker cable nagdala don  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 14, 2004 at 09:57 AM
Gusto sana niyan kahi balita ko mahal na raw...  :-[

Guys,

Grabe di pa rin nahuli kung ano nagdala??? syempre yun CONTODO preamp hehehehe >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 14, 2004 at 11:15 AM
Gusto sana niyan kahi balita ko mahal na raw...  :-[




Hehehe, di baleng mahal - maganda naman... kaysa yun iba na ang mahal-mahal - pangit naman pala.  ;D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 14, 2004 at 11:49 AM
hanggang ngayon ba pinagtatalunan pa rin kung sino ang nagdala, eto listahan ng mga nagdala!

 slayer - Wharfedale Diamond 8.3 (para di OT)
 Hans and France - ConTodo PP el-34 amp, ConTodo Preamp
 isak - diy belden speaker wires (langya bobby! aminin mo na! Audionote yung dala mo! ;D ), tubes
 kimpao - rcd-1072, silver ic


 ;D ;D ;D

 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 14, 2004 at 12:09 PM
Eh binura ni sir isak yung markings sa jacket! Baka nga Audionote yun?! ahehehehe...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 14, 2004 at 01:59 PM
Here's the email replay i got from Wharfedale UK.

Quote
Dear Sir,

You need to remove the rubber bung at the rear of the loudspeaker. You must use 'Kiln-dired' sand and no other sort.

We find here that filling the chambers about half-full produces the best mix of dynamics. Weigh out each side carefully, to ensure both get equal volumes of sand.

Best Regards

David Patching
Marketing
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 14, 2004 at 02:03 PM
wanderlust,

Mas nagustuhan ko yung Kimber ni boss akyat... mas airy kesa dun sa belden.... pero panalo parin yung belden. Hooked nga pala ito sa 8.3 para hindi OT.  ;D

i didnt quite notice the difference, kung sabagay sandali lang ako din don. but i heard sir akyats kimber is much much more pricey than the belden, double than it kaya? btw, magkano yong speaker wire na yon?

nga pala whats better, the 8.4 0r the 8.3? i once have used an 8.4 e, and i wasnt convinced by its performance, ms nagustuhan ko pa yng 8.1 ko.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 14, 2004 at 02:20 PM
I wouldn't swap my 8.3 to an 8.4.  The 8.4 is too boomy for me... kung yung 8.3 boomy na lalo na yung 8.4. You really need a big space from the backwall pag naka 8.4 ka.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 14, 2004 at 02:22 PM
I wouldn't swap my 8.3 to an 8.4.  The 8.4 is too boomy for me... kung yung 8.3 boomy na lalo na yung 8.4. You really need a big space from the backwall pag naka 8.4 ka.

Kaya ko nga binenta yung 8.4 ko dati dahil diyan ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: bravoexo on Jul 14, 2004 at 02:27 PM
ah... no wonder... there's no wall directly behind my 8.4's, nearest one are glass sliding doors around 3 meters behind it.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Jul 14, 2004 at 02:31 PM
I wouldn't swap my 8.3 to an 8.4.  The 8.4 is too boomy for me... kung yung 8.3 boomy na lalo na yung 8.4. You really need a big space from the backwall pag naka 8.4 ka.

e di kung marami kang open space ang ganda ng tunog nito.... >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 14, 2004 at 02:34 PM


e di kung marami kang open space ang ganda ng tunog nito.... >:D

Lagay mo sa gitna ng basketball court para ma-control mo yung bass para di na siya boomy. ;D ;D ;D ;D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 14, 2004 at 02:36 PM
bravoexe,

Good for you.  :)

john,

Mahal na tweak yan pre... kelangan mo ng bagong bahay o kwarto na malaki! Ahehehee...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Jul 14, 2004 at 02:59 PM
baka pwede pang gawing pogi yang 8.3...piano finish kaya?  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 14, 2004 at 04:57 PM
lagyan mo na lang ng pillow este stuffings... hindi naman boomy ah?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 14, 2004 at 05:09 PM
guys,

Baka pwede ma-control 8.4's bass with foam sa port?.. pero i think its more of matching na rin.. :D :D..

who has an 8.4 try natin sa tube?? >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 14, 2004 at 05:10 PM
Ahaahaha....  >:D

who has an 8.4 try natin sa tube?? >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 14, 2004 at 05:11 PM
hanggang ngayon ba pinagtatalunan pa rin kung sino ang nagdala, eto listahan ng mga nagdala!

 slayer - Wharfedale Diamond 8.3 (para di OT)
 Hans and France - ConTodo PP el-34 amp, ConTodo Preamp
 isak - diy belden speaker wires (langya bobby! aminin mo na! Audionote yung dala mo! ;D ), tubes
 kimpao - rcd-1072, silver ic


 ;D ;D ;D


Senyor Kimpao,

kindly add..

Jetoks - AMX Contodo EL34 STC PP amp..

 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Jul 14, 2004 at 05:14 PM
Hans, Kimpao , at sa mga dating owner ng diamonds na nakadinig na partner ito ng tubes: if you could turn back time - having heard what you heard... magpapalit pa kayo to your new speakers or gagamitin na lang to upgrade source and amp?

:)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 14, 2004 at 05:15 PM
Gandang question yan Boy Paldo Iceman90.  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 14, 2004 at 05:19 PM
Upgrade is Inevitable! ;D >:D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 14, 2004 at 05:29 PM
Iceman,

I started with Wharfedale Diamond and end up using Wharfedale din... ;D ;D ;D hehehe love its soft dome tweeter and yellow kevlar woofer.. with proper matching ( tube or SS amp) you'll have long hour of sweet, pure, harmonious and inviting sound.. easy on the ear talaga :) :) rock or jazz panalo..

I quote my wife kidding me "Wharfedale babalik ka rin pala dyan eh sana di muna benta dati sus"..  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 14, 2004 at 05:34 PM
Upgrade is Inevitable! ;D >:D ;D

SARS is inevitable or predestined??  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Jul 14, 2004 at 05:40 PM
Quote from: kimpao
Upgrade is Inevitable!

so may hahanapin pa?

Quote from: hans
Iceman,

I started with Wharfedale Diamond and end up using Wharfedale din...    hehehe love its soft dome tweeter and yellow kevlar woofer.. with proper matching ( tube or SS amp) you'll have long hour of sweet, pure, harmonious and inviting sound.. easy on the ear talaga   rock or jazz panalo..

I quote my wife kidding me "Wharfedale babalik ka rin pala dyan eh sana di muna benta dati sus".. 

true - pero laki ng price difference, unless sinasabi mo na pareho lang tunog

devil's advocate lang po - huwag mapikon, para makapagdesisyon na agad si slayer ;D

Quote from: slayer
Gandang question yan Boy Paldo Iceman90. 

para sa iyo talaga yung tanong pre, huwag mo na pigilin - lalagnatin ka nyan  ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 14, 2004 at 05:43 PM


so may hahanapin pa?



true - pero laki ng price difference, unless sinasabi mo na pareho lang tunog

devil's advocate lang po - huwag mapikon, para makapagdesisyon na agad si slayer ;D



para sa iyo talaga yung tanong pre, huwag mo na pigilin - lalagnatin ka nyan  ;D



Oo sir! Mahirap pigilan ang SARS! >:D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 14, 2004 at 05:47 PM


so may hahanapin pa?



true - pero laki ng price difference, unless sinasabi mo na pareho lang tunog

devil's advocate lang po - huwag mapikon, para makapagdesisyon na agad si slayer ;D



para sa iyo talaga yung tanong pre, huwag mo na pigilin - lalagnatin ka nyan  ;D



sEnyor DON iceman,

The character is there but more Refined, cultured & advanced..IMHO >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 14, 2004 at 05:48 PM


si slayer[/i] ;D

para sa iyo talaga yung tanong pre, huwag mo na pigilin - lalagnatin ka nyan  ;D



Sagot na ST-2 Slayer...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Jul 14, 2004 at 06:43 PM
my caveat with the diamonds before is they can get muddy at times, pero i haven't tried the diamonds with tube amps of adequate power. I tried the 8.1 with an 8 watt single ended el34 and it sounded thin. That's why i'm curios on how the 8.3 sounds with a push pull tube amp...i know bass will be there but i want to see if the mids are much better ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 14, 2004 at 08:49 PM


Oo sir! Mahirap pigilan ang SARS! >:D ;D

SARS? dba may vaccine na para dyan? kaso nakakalagnat daw pag pinipigilan.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 15, 2004 at 09:39 AM
my caveat with the diamonds before is they can get muddy at times, pero i haven't tried the diamonds with tube amps of adequate power. I tried the 8.1 with an 8 watt single ended el34 and it sounded thin. That's why i'm curios on how the 8.3 sounds with a push pull tube amp...i know bass will be there but i want to see if the mids are much better ;)

John,

The setup Contodo preamp + Rotel 1072 + Contodo EL34 STC PP amp + Wharf 8.3 =  >:D >:D >:D ;D ;D ;D the 8.3 even not broken in provided a balance performance, with nice airy high and mid, with right placement the 8.3 disappeared :) :) you'll never think that its budget speaker.. :) :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Jul 15, 2004 at 09:41 AM
hehehe e di dapat pa piano finish na natin yang 8.3 para mukhang mahal hehehe >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 15, 2004 at 09:42 AM
Kwela boys,

Di ako magkakaSARS!! Bawal magkasakit!! ahehehee...


john,

8 watts? What ohms? Wharfs are kinda hard to drive because of its low sensitivty and its 6 ohms characteristics.  My HK2500 is driving them with ease... with very good imaging, sound stage, clarity and airiness (thanks to the rotel).  When we hooked it up with Jetok's EL34 PP STC using 4 ohms/ CoNTodo Preamp/RCD-1072... it was NIRVANA!!  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 15, 2004 at 09:45 AM
hehehe e di dapat pa piano finish na natin yang 8.3 para mukhang mahal hehehe >:D

John,

pwede din sir... btw 8.3 was tested with round up tracks.. and Panalo!!! >:D >:D walang distortion even at high/loud volume.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 15, 2004 at 09:48 AM
Wag po koya!!! Wag po!!  ;D




John,

pwede din sir... btw 8.3 was tested with round up tracks.. and Panalo!!! >:D >:D walang distortion even at HIGH/LOUD VOLUME.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Jul 15, 2004 at 09:51 AM
slayer: tried it at 4 ohms, it sounded thin.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 15, 2004 at 09:51 AM
For it's price and performance, nakakabaliw din ano?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Jul 15, 2004 at 09:51 AM


John,

pwede din sir... btw 8.3 was tested with round up tracks.. and Panalo!!! >:D >:D walang distortion even at high/loud volume.

di lang bulletproof ang 8.3...pang cowboy/rodeo pa..yeehahhh!!! hehe >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 15, 2004 at 09:52 AM
Senyor ST-2 Slayer,

Your officially a member of the Stress test group.. hehehhee Congrats  >:D >:D

Ka member mo..

ST president Kimpao MA B4
ST Vice Sebman  MA B4
ST Secretary Slayer Diamond 8.3

hahahahahahaha fish sa inyo lahat... hehehehe ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 15, 2004 at 09:55 AM
Senyor ST-2 Slayer,

Your officially a member of the Stress test group.. hehehhee Congrats  >:D >:D

Ka member mo..

ST president Kimpao MA B4
ST Vice Sebman  MA B4
ST Secretary Slayer Diamond 8.3

hahahahahahaha fish sa inyo lahat... hehehehe ;D ;D ;D

Basta kami nakikinig lang ha. Walang stress.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Jul 15, 2004 at 09:57 AM
Senyor ST-2 Slayer,

Your officially a member of the Stress test group.. hehehhee Congrats  >:D >:D

Ka member mo..

ST president Kimpao MA B4
ST Vice Sebman  MA B4
ST Secretary Slayer Diamond 8.3

hahahahahahaha fish sa inyo lahat... hehehehe ;D ;D ;D

ikaw kailan ka sasama? bi-amp natin ng 2 st-70 ang evo30 para maging director ka >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Jul 15, 2004 at 10:39 AM

The setup Contodo preamp + Rotel 1072 + Contodo EL34 STC PP amp + Wharf 8.3 =  >:D >:D >:D ;D ;D ;D the 8.3 even not broken in provided a balance performance, with nice airy high and mid, with right placement the 8.3 disappeared :) :) you'll never think that its budget speaker.. :) :)

mga sirs.. medyo awkward lang tong setup na to.. parang unconventional pero panalo...  ;D mas mahal pa yung preamp sa speakers...   :o  ;D  ^-^
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Jul 15, 2004 at 10:40 AM
Senyor ST-2 Slayer,

Your officially a member of the Stress test group.. hehehhee Congrats  >:D >:D

Ka member mo..

ST president Kimpao MA B4
ST Vice Sebman  MA B4
ST Secretary Slayer Diamond 8.3

hahahahahahaha fish sa inyo lahat... hehehehe ;D ;D ;D

welcome to the group master slayer.. buti nde naikabit sa hafler ni master hans yang 8.3 mo..  ;)  :D nalugi ata kami don ni ST Paldo master kimpao a...  ;D sama nyo na dyan si master akyatbundok.. kada session e yung 908 nya yung nakakabit...  ;D saka yung kotse nya na rin... na-stress test na din namin yun.. bundok ng binangonan papuntang pier  ;D  :D peace master akyat..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 15, 2004 at 11:14 AM
slayer: tried it at 4 ohms, it sounded thin.

saan mo sinubukan? ano amp? ano cdp? ano IC? ano speakerwires? O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: losi_phile on Jul 15, 2004 at 03:59 PM
Just want to share my experience with Diamond 8.3.

I’ve been using Wharfdale Diamond 8.3s since October 2002 and I would say it sounded great with my budget, surplus gears : Pioneer VSX-D509S AVR (with learning remote) and JVC XV-723GD DVD Audio/Video Player and Xenon 810D (not surplus though).  I made myself a Belden Cat 5 (Ven Haus recipe) speaker cables.  This year, I added a Surplus Sansui Alpha AU-607 Integrated Amp and a Technics SL-6 Direct Drive Linear Tracking turntable.  Enjoy ako lalo sa tunog ng 8.3s using LPs.  Recently, somebody told me to use my almost 15 yrs old Sony mini-compo (which have been collecting dust since the arrival of Pioneer AVR) to drive the 8.3s.  Pwede ba yon? ??? ::)  So I did try hooking the 8.3s sa Sony mini-compo and guess what, na-mute ang tunog ng Pioneer at Sansui sa tunog ng Sony.  Parang kinabitan ng subwoofer yung 8.3 nung naikabit sa Sony (tested using Jheena Lodwick’s Getting To Know You HDCD using Xenon 810D DVD player for the HDCD decoding) at adjustable pa (kung kailangan) ang mid and high via graphic equalizer ng Sony.  Paano nangyari yon ??? ??? ???,  a Sony mini-compo-Wharf 8.3 combo beating a Pioneer AVR-Wharf and Sansui Int. Amp-Wharf combos?  ??? ::) So ngayon,  I’m using my Sony mini-compo as main amplifier with Diamond 8.3s (panalong combination – no need for subwoofer sa stereo listening – sa HT, set ko lang sa PLUS ung Subwoofer setting sa Pioneer AVR),  the Sansui as phono pre-amp na lang and the Pioneer AVR as surround, center, and subwoofer amplifier for HT application. 

I guess, for most budget audio applications, Wharfdale Diamond 8.3 will be hard to beat.  But if you have the resources to get that “Vaccine” against “SARS” as discussed in this thread then go ahead inflict yourself with “SARS” but be warned,  mahirap gumaling ang sakit na “SARS”.  If you don’t have the resources for the “Vaccine” against “SARS”, then stay away from people/places with possibility of “SARS” contamination  unless you’re very sure na you have enough protection and you’ll not get contaminated with the “SARS” virus.  Suggestion lang po. 8)

Wharfdale Diamond 8.3 RULES…sa budget speakers arena! :D

That’s just me! ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 15, 2004 at 04:13 PM
losi_phile,

Nice to hear you'll love the 8.3 kami rin nabigla sa performance..  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 15, 2004 at 04:17 PM
Syempre maganda yun Sony ni losi_phile kasi gainclone yun laman nun eh (shameless plugging).  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 15, 2004 at 04:19 PM
losi_phile,

That's matching exampled.  No matter how expensive your gears are... it all boils down to matching.

Nice to know a fellow happy 8.3 owner.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 15, 2004 at 04:19 PM


ikaw kailan ka sasama? bi-amp natin ng 2 st-70 ang evo30 para maging director ka >:D

Sir oo ba minsan lang ito ST70 monoblock config... go ako dyan.. EVO30.. >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 15, 2004 at 04:20 PM
This i gotta hear...  >:D

Master Hans,

Fully broken-in na ba si Evo30?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 15, 2004 at 04:22 PM
Master, break-in pa natin yang evo30 mo. Willing ako. Ahehehehehehe ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 15, 2004 at 04:26 PM
Senyor ST-2 Slayer,

Mukhang ready na Evo30 ko once lang ito kaya go go go ako sa ST70 mono..hehehe

TEka update:

STress test member:

ST Kimpao
ST Akyatbundok
ST Sebman
ST Slayer
ST Hans Adriane.. hehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 15, 2004 at 04:26 PM
Master, break-in pa natin yang evo30 mo. Willing ako. Ahehehehehehe ;D

ikaw talaga, basta break-in willing ka palagi!  ;D >:D :P
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 15, 2004 at 04:27 PM
Master, break-in pa natin yang evo30 mo. Willing ako. Ahehehehehehe ;D

SEnor Kimpao,

Pwede bakit hindi para naman di mapahiya..EVO30
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 15, 2004 at 04:33 PM


ikaw talaga, basta break-in willing ka palagi!  ;D >:D :P

Another way alleviating the dreaded disease called "SARS"!!!! ;D ;D
Teka hindi na ata natanggal sa akin ito, ah. :-\ :'( >:D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Jul 15, 2004 at 04:38 PM


Sir oo ba minsan lang ito ST70 monoblock config... go ako dyan.. EVO30.. >:D

di pwede mono st70 ko eh kaya bi-amp tayo  ;)

... oh kimpao game daw! ano sa iyo? mids&highs o bass? di ko pa kabisado amp ko eh >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 15, 2004 at 04:39 PM
sir, no pun intended but i think your the living epitome of living under the influence of SARS! ;D >:D


nakakahawa pa!  :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 15, 2004 at 04:43 PM


di pwede mono st70 ko eh kaya bi-amp tayo  ;)

... oh kimpao game daw! ano sa iyo? mids&highs o bass? di ko pa kabisado amp ko eh >:D

Try natin lahat hehehe.. next week?? hehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Jul 15, 2004 at 04:51 PM
wag this saturday ha (July 17) - July 24 tayo!  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 15, 2004 at 04:53 PM


di pwede mono st70 ko eh kaya bi-amp tayo  ;)

... oh kimpao game daw! ano sa iyo? mids&highs o bass? di ko pa kabisado amp ko eh >:D

Sir may triode switch ba yung sa iyo? Sayang sir, yung mono switch ko kasi working. Ganda sana kung monoblock! :D  Sir sa iyo mids and highs kung may triode switch yung sa iyo, bass yung sa akin.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 15, 2004 at 04:55 PM
sir, no pun intended but i think your the living epitome of living under the influence of SARS! ;D >:D


nakakahawa pa!  :o


 ;D ;D ;D >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 15, 2004 at 04:56 PM
Iceman,

Tama wag this 17... pwede 24.. excited na ako.. hehehe high & Mid kay Iceman tapos bass senyor Kimpao. O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 15, 2004 at 04:58 PM
Saan ang venue ng ST nato?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 15, 2004 at 04:59 PM
Saan ang venue ng ST nato?
Sir dalhin mo uli yung 8.3 Mwehehehehehehe!!!!!! >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Jul 15, 2004 at 05:01 PM


Sir may triode switch ba yung sa iyo? Sayang sir, yung mono switch ko kasi working. Ganda sana kung monoblock! :D  Sir sa iyo mids and highs kung may triode switch yung sa iyo, bass yung sa akin.

triode switch meron :) mas ok bi-amp, balanse tunog - saan gagawin?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 15, 2004 at 05:06 PM
agree sir dahil magka-iba yung specs nung st70 natin. dapat identical yung dalawa. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 15, 2004 at 09:45 PM
Bi-amping na? Dapat may active tube crossover!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 16, 2004 at 08:28 AM


San
Bi-amping na? Dapat may active tube crossover!  ;D ;D ;D


Masta JojoD,

ok yan... pero san muna venue??
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 16, 2004 at 08:55 AM


San
 

Masta JojoD,

ok yan... pero san muna venue??

Hehehe, kaso mo wala na sa akin yun crossover! Pero sama pa din ako dyan ha, kahit taga punas lang ng ST70 ni don!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 16, 2004 at 08:58 AM
meron na naman tayong prayer meeting mga bros  ;D

saan gaganapin?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 16, 2004 at 09:03 AM
meron na naman tayong prayer meeting mga bros  ;D

saan gaganapin?

maingay yun prayer meeting na yan.  ;D paghahaluin ko ulit yun v-cut at piatos. hehehehe  ;D  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 16, 2004 at 09:05 AM
meron na naman tayong prayer meeting mga bros  ;D

saan gaganapin?

Punk_kid,

Heavy weight naman hehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 16, 2004 at 09:10 AM
Sasakit na naman balakang natin pagbuhat ng precious! hehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 16, 2004 at 09:15 AM
mukhang jampacked yan pre, ST70 ba ang maglalaban dyan

ready to rumble  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Jul 16, 2004 at 09:20 AM
pwede po bang makisali??
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 16, 2004 at 09:20 AM
Sasakit na naman balakang natin pagbuhat ng precious! hehehehe

Masta JojoD,

Light lang yun precious ni Senor Kimpao pero yun Precious ko mabigat Evo30hehehhe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 16, 2004 at 09:25 AM


Masta JojoD,

Light lang yun precious ni Senor Kimpao pero yun Precious ko mabigat Evo30hehehhe

sana malapit lang yun parking mo.... ang bigat nyan EVO!  ;D

Di lang balakang punk kid, bka magka almuranas pa tayo nyan!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 16, 2004 at 09:26 AM


Masta JojoD,

Light lang yun precious ni Senor Kimpao pero yun Precious ko mabigat Evo30hehehhe

heavy weight nga talaga sir  ;D

Sasakit na naman balakang natin pagbuhat ng precious! hehehehe

ahahahaha...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 16, 2004 at 09:37 AM
Hiramin ko na lang sa anak ko yun push cart nya para may gulong! hahaha
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 16, 2004 at 10:42 AM
Mga sir baka pwede nating isabay yung shootout ng 1072 vs. usher cdp(na-tweak na raw yung usher?).Mwehehehehehehehe  >:D >:D ^-^
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Jul 16, 2004 at 10:44 AM
sama ako dyan...dalhin ko yung audio alchemy ko hehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 16, 2004 at 10:56 AM
Pag puwede ako dalin ko yung 971.  >:D

Mga sir baka pwede nating isabay yung shootout ng 1072 vs. usher cdp(na-tweak na raw yung usher?).Mwehehehehehehehe  >:D >:D ^-^
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 16, 2004 at 10:59 AM
Pag puwede ako dalin ko yung 971.  >:D




ganda yan sir, subok muna natin yung usher diyan!  pag pumasa eh di yung 1072 na.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 16, 2004 at 12:21 PM
ayan shoot-out uli.....  sali ha.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 16, 2004 at 02:08 PM
Yun mga pupunta sa pending na shootout kailangan malakas ang katawan dahil mabigat yun mga precious.... pupunta kaya si Jet?  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 16, 2004 at 05:34 PM
inom kayo ng rogin e para kayo ng magbuhat ng evo30 ni masta hans  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Jul 16, 2004 at 05:39 PM
Yun mga pupunta sa pending na shootout kailangan malakas ang katawan dahil mabigat yun mga precious.... pupunta kaya si Jet?  ;D

kaya ako - dadating na lang pag naka set-up na >:D naka buhat na ako ng evo30 ni Hans eh ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 16, 2004 at 05:41 PM


kaya ako - dadating na lang pag naka set-up na >:D naka buhat na ako ng evo30 ni Hans eh ;D

tapos aga uwi bago matapos ang session  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 16, 2004 at 06:33 PM
Guys,

Wawa naman ata EVo30 wala amp ngayon baka mabigla sa session hehehehe.. >:D >:D

Senyor Kimpao,

Uy shootout again ng cdp??

Slayer,

Bring the 8.3 and Rotel 971.. para 8.3 compare sa Evo30 baka gumastos lang pala ako eh same naman pala sound.. arayyy!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: vvt-i on Jul 16, 2004 at 10:14 PM
Yun mga pupunta sa pending na shootout kailangan malakas ang katawan dahil mabigat yun mga precious.... pupunta kaya si Jet?  ;D

sa 24 ba yan? sama ko jan.....heavyweight yung shootout eh. O0 O0 O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 16, 2004 at 11:11 PM


kaya ako - dadating na lang pag naka set-up na >:D naka buhat na ako ng evo30 ni Hans eh ;D

aha, ako naman mauunang umuwi! hehehe  >:D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 16, 2004 at 11:15 PM


sa 24 ba yan? sama ko jan.....heavyweight yung shootout eh. O0 O0 O0

ayan, magdadala ulit ng heavyweight! naku, iinom na ako ng maraming vitamins para wag mahawa ng SARS at makabuhat ng mabigat!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: BGA VI on Jul 16, 2004 at 11:26 PM
mga Sars, este sirs pala,  ;D

pwede ba ko sama ? san gaganapin?   ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 18, 2004 at 12:17 PM
mga Sars, este sirs pala,  ;D

pwede ba ko sama ? san gaganapin?   ;D

Kailangan mo muna uminom ng madamig vitamins para di ka mahawa.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 18, 2004 at 06:38 PM


Kailangan mo muna uminom ng madamig vitamins para di ka mahawa.  ;D ;D ;D

Di ako mahahawa, manghahawa lang.  >:D >:D ;D ;D ;D

Mga sirs, di po shootout ng st70 ang gagawin, bi-amp using 2 st70s' ang magaganap! "MALUFET" yung st70 ni fafa iceman, fully "rivoed" yan!  :o   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 18, 2004 at 08:40 PM


Di ako mahahawa, manghahawa lang.  >:D >:D ;D ;D ;D

Mga sirs, di po shootout ng st70 ang gagawin, bi-amp using 2 st70s' ang magaganap! "MALUFET" yung st70 ni fafa iceman, fully "rivoed" yan!  :o   ;D ;D

I'm sure magiging plague na naman yan don ST!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Jul 19, 2004 at 10:57 AM


Di ako mahahawa, manghahawa lang.  >:D >:D ;D ;D ;D

Mga sirs, di po shootout ng st70 ang gagawin, bi-amp using 2 st70s' ang magaganap! "MALUFET" yung st70 ni fafa iceman, fully "rivoed" yan!  :o   ;D ;D

sir san ito at kailan???? ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Jul 19, 2004 at 10:58 AM


Di ako mahahawa, manghahawa lang.  >:D >:D ;D ;D ;D

Mga sirs, di po shootout ng st70 ang gagawin, bi-amp using 2 st70s' ang magaganap! "MALUFET" yung st70 ni fafa iceman, fully "rivoed" yan!  :o   ;D ;D

sir san ito at kailan???? ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Jul 19, 2004 at 10:59 AM


Di ako mahahawa, manghahawa lang.  >:D >:D ;D ;D ;D

Mga sirs, di po shootout ng st70 ang gagawin, bi-amp using 2 st70s' ang magaganap! "MALUFET" yung st70 ni fafa iceman, fully "rivoed" yan!  :o   ;D ;D

sir san ito at kailan???? ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 19, 2004 at 11:13 AM
fully "rivoed" yan!

malupetsie nga tlaga eto! kailangan d ako mag-absent nito!

bro ice congrats!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 19, 2004 at 11:54 AM
Mga FAFa,

Do we have a venue already?? calling Sir ST Akyat.. hehehe >:D >:D


Senor Kimpao,

CDP shootout ba.. tapos EVo 30 + ST70 (bi-amp) wowow.. side show naman 8.3 + AMX STC EL34..  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 19, 2004 at 03:16 PM
mga Sars, este sirs pala,  ;D

pwede ba ko sama ? san gaganapin?   ;D

Pwede sir..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 19, 2004 at 03:35 PM
hmmm san kaya venue, sa arts venue na lng tamang tama yong place. ahihihihi. ;D

my kilala akong my planong kumuha ng 8.3 within the week, abagan susunod na kabanata. >:D :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 19, 2004 at 03:50 PM
Sino kaya ito... sigurado kasama ito nung ST ng 8.3 ko. Ahehehehehe...  >:D

my kilala akong my planong kumuha ng 8.3 within the week, abagan susunod na kabanata. >:D :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 19, 2004 at 03:56 PM
Sino kaya ito... sigurado kasama ito nung ST ng 8.3 ko. Ahehehehehe...  >:D

Pre, na damay sa karahasan ng SARS. ;D Kilala ko kung sino yan. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 19, 2004 at 03:58 PM
Masyadong marahas yan SARS na yan!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 19, 2004 at 03:58 PM
korekek! kilala mo sya!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Jul 19, 2004 at 04:00 PM
go go go with this shootout.... sama ako dyan...  ;D congrats sa future owner ng 8.3 para nde tayo ot...  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 19, 2004 at 04:08 PM
pag nagkataon may bagong sakit na naman na kakalat!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 19, 2004 at 04:15 PM
uy! blind item na naman, pag nawala yung nakadisplay sa spectra siya na yun  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 19, 2004 at 04:16 PM
Kung sino ka man... congrats!! Matagal lang ang break-in period pero sulit yan...  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 19, 2004 at 04:17 PM
basta ako walang cnabing pangalan...... ;D

tip: >:D

sya nakabili ng tono ni supes. ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 19, 2004 at 04:23 PM
at e2 pa!

OT nga lang, meron din akong isang kilala na naka lafayette ngayon! kahapon nya lang nakuha new toy nya!

tindi, ng SARS dito!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 19, 2004 at 04:36 PM
Outbreak na ang SARS sa pinoydvd!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 19, 2004 at 04:40 PM
takbo!!!!  :P
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 19, 2004 at 04:42 PM
Outbreak na ang SARS sa pinoydvd!  ;D ;D ;D
Dati pa may outbreak sir!!!! ;D ;D  Lalo na ngayon!!!! Yung isa bibili kaagad ng 8.3 (para di OT).
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 19, 2004 at 04:42 PM
takbo!!!!  :P

magsusuot ako ng protective suit sa dadating session! Ahahaha

Oks talaga ang 8.3 na yan!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 19, 2004 at 04:57 PM
yan ang nagagwa ng panay shoot out hihihi

kaya tuloy tuloy ang outbreak ng SARS dito sa pdvd  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 19, 2004 at 05:00 PM
yan ang nagagwa ng panay shoot out hihihi

kaya tuloy tuloy ang outbreak ng SARS dito sa pdvd  >:D

actually tayo ang na-shootout eh.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 19, 2004 at 05:03 PM
oy andito ka pala sir punk_kid. musta? ::)

d OT to alam nyo kung bakit...... tan tataran!!!!!! >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 19, 2004 at 05:03 PM
tama ka sir jojoD tayong mga nag aattend ng shoot out nag nabiktima  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 19, 2004 at 05:10 PM
Ganun talaga, wala naman tayo ibang hilig kungdi audio eh.  O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 19, 2004 at 05:14 PM
oy andito ka pala sir punk_kid. musta? ::)

d OT to alam nyo kung bakit...... tan tataran!!!!!! >:D

musta tunog ng tot... mo ngayon hehehe balita ko naka Tele........ phone ka daw ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 19, 2004 at 05:47 PM

Dati pa may outbreak sir!!!! ;D ;D  Lalo na ngayon!!!! Yung isa bibili kaagad ng 8.3 (para di OT).

Ganda talaga yan 8.3, congrats sa bagong bibili!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 20, 2004 at 08:55 AM
Punk_kid,

Malupet talaga yun batang ito wharf 8.3 + Tono preamp agad.. Congrats sa kanya!!!  ;D ;D

YUn naka Lafayette Congrats din ha!!.. ;D ;D ;D

BTW meron exhibit Spectra sa Park square 1 July 16 to 28, 2004 ata.. baka makadiscount tayooo.. hehehehe. >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 20, 2004 at 09:48 AM
Punk_kid,

Malupet talaga yun batang ito wharf 8.3 + Tono preamp agad.. Congrats sa kanya!!!  ;D ;D

YUn naka Lafayette Congrats din ha!!.. ;D ;D ;D

BTW meron exhibit Spectra sa Park square 1 July 16 to 28, 2004 ata.. baka makadiscount tayooo.. hehehehe. >:D >:D

tindi nga nung batang iyon, pati yung isang naka tube amp na din, ala pa sa mga session natin yun ah  ;D ;D

congrats sa inyo! paramdam naman kayo  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 20, 2004 at 02:51 PM
Hanggang congrats na lang ako kaya congrats sa may mga bagong toys!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 20, 2004 at 03:32 PM
ay lalo na ako, pakungrats kongrats sa mga boy paldo dito, hayyy kaingit kayo! Malufetshe SARS nyo!

punk,

tele...... bisyon yon kanya! sarap nga daw tumunog e, kakahigop sa lambing! laking imprvemnt from sylva ............ nya! mag tele ka na din kasi boy!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 20, 2004 at 05:26 PM
ay lalo na ako, pakungrats kongrats sa mga boy paldo dito, hayyy kaingit kayo! Malufetshe SARS nyo!

punk,

tele...... bisyon yon kanya! sarap nga daw tumunog e, kakahigop sa lambing! laking imprvemnt from sylva ............ nya! mag tele ka na din kasi boy!

ala pa tayong tube preamp pre  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 20, 2004 at 05:57 PM


ala pa tayong tube preamp pre  >:D

 :P daig pa kita... ako meron na tube preamp  :P Hahahaha! Fish food tayo pre!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Jul 20, 2004 at 07:06 PM


ala pa tayong tube preamp pre  >:D

Tono preamp gusto mo?

(http://www.thecute.dyndns.org/phpbb2/files/resize_of_dsc02260.jpg)

(http://www.thecute.dyndns.org/phpbb2/files/resize_of_dsc02261.jpg)

madali ako kausap ;D


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 20, 2004 at 07:32 PM
O ayan, may pagkakataon ka na pre. Susunod nyan tube amp na.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 21, 2004 at 09:41 AM
 ;D >:D ;D >:D ;D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 21, 2004 at 11:59 AM


Tono preamp gusto mo?

(http://www.thecute.dyndns.org/phpbb2/files/resize_of_dsc02260.jpg)

(http://www.thecute.dyndns.org/phpbb2/files/resize_of_dsc02261.jpg)

madali ako kausap ;D


oyyy, pwedeng pwede to kay BGA, calling benjie, eto ng hinahanap mo!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 21, 2004 at 12:04 PM
Mga Fafa,

OT na kayo... sino ba yan batang meron 8.3.. umamin na!! hehehhee
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 21, 2004 at 12:07 PM
todays the day mga sir, etong kid na to bibili na ng 8.3!

sama kayo!

paalis na kami! ;D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 21, 2004 at 12:08 PM
wanderlust,

kaya mo yan KID... Congrats ha.. uy uy excited di muna mag lunch hehehehe..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Jul 21, 2004 at 12:10 PM
;D >:D ;D >:D ;D >:D

ha ha ha! meron na pala! ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 21, 2004 at 12:13 PM
Senyor Iceman,

Tuloy sa Sat?? meron na tayo venue kaso baka yun ST70 mo lang present hehehe wala ata tsikot si ST kimpao.. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 21, 2004 at 12:15 PM
ewan ko ba kng masukista etong batang e2, pinapatagal pa, maya na lng dw at antayin pa namin free lunch ng opis (aniv nmn!!!). ano ga ere akoy d na mapakali! >:D

sabi ko kasi sa kanya mas ok ang evo e! ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 21, 2004 at 12:18 PM
wanderlust,

Pacific Evolution series na sabihin mo kay KID para naman meron akong kasama.. >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Jul 21, 2004 at 12:19 PM
Senyor Iceman,

Tuloy sa Sat?? meron na tayo venue kaso baka yun ST70 mo lang present hehehe wala ata tsikot si ST kimpao.. :)

akyat tayo? ;D sure!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Narayan on Jul 21, 2004 at 12:21 PM


Tono preamp gusto mo?

madali ako kausap ;D


ayan na...nagpahiwatig na...ano kaya ang balak ipalit ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 21, 2004 at 12:23 PM


akyat tayo? ;D sure!

Sir elevator naman.. taas nun eh.. 9th floor. >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 21, 2004 at 01:08 PM
tsismis to pre, sino ba yung kid na yun?  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 21, 2004 at 01:18 PM
tsismis to pre, sino ba yung kid na yun?  ;D

ewan ko si disco_kid ata yun? ::) ;D ;D ;D kid, Fish Tayoooooooo!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 21, 2004 at 01:21 PM
Baka naman si Super Kid_lat?!  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 21, 2004 at 01:23 PM
oo nga, eh! mukhang kidlat din nung tinamaan ng SARS!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Jul 21, 2004 at 01:48 PM
oo nga, eh! mukhang kidlat din nung tinamaan ng SARS!!!! ;D ;D ;D

dapat talaga ikulong muna yong malakas manghawa.... ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 21, 2004 at 01:48 PM
wanderlust,

Pacific Evolution series na sabihin mo kay KID para naman meron akong kasama.. >:D >:D

sabi ko nga ka kanya sir, MAKISAMA KA NAMAN. ehehehe. pacific evo kan na!

ahihihi, d pa kami nakaka-alis ni kid_lat!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 21, 2004 at 01:52 PM

ahihihi, d pa kami nakaka-alis ni kid_lat!

Sir, parang kid_lat din yan mamaya sa pag-punch out sa opis. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 21, 2004 at 01:53 PM
nawawala na nga e, ahihihi.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Jul 21, 2004 at 03:28 PM
congrats kung sino man yung kid na yan... panalo yang 8.3... now tube amp na lang kulang mo...  ;D  :D para gumaling ang sars ng konti...  ^-^  O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: james16 on Jul 21, 2004 at 03:39 PM
congrats kung sino man yung kid na yan... panalo yang 8.3... now tube amp na lang kulang mo...  ;D  :D para gumaling ang sars ng konti...  ^-^  O0

i agree, ganda nga nung 8.3!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 21, 2004 at 06:29 PM
Guys,

Mukhang sold na 8.3 ah.. Congrats.. ;D  KID_lat >:D >:D ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 21, 2004 at 06:39 PM
Guys,

Mukhang sold na 8.3 ah.. Congrats.. ;D  KID_lat >:D >:D ::)

Ayus yan ah, puro blind item!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 21, 2004 at 06:44 PM


Ayus yan ah, puro blind item!  ;D ;D

Pre kilala natin yan.. palaging makasama parang dynamic duo, Batman & Robin, Starsky & Hutch,.....Superman & Wonderwoman?? ::) ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 21, 2004 at 06:57 PM


Pre kilala natin yan.. palaging makasama parang dynamic duo, Batman & Robin, Starsky & Hutch,.....Superman & Wonderwoman?? ::) ::)

Pre, sino dun sa dala si Wonderwoman? ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 21, 2004 at 07:03 PM


Pre, sino dun sa dala si Wonderwoman? ;D ;D

Opss ssshh di naman nila alam eh.. hehehehe later aamin din yan..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 21, 2004 at 11:38 PM


Pre kilala natin yan.. palaging makasama parang dynamic duo, Batman & Robin, Starsky & Hutch,.....Superman & Wonderwoman?? ::) ::)

Nakuh poh! Hehehe ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 21, 2004 at 11:49 PM


Pre, sino dun sa dala si Wonderwoman? ;D ;D

 ;D ;D ;D Hindi ba si Darna yun?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: torque on Jul 22, 2004 at 05:37 AM
mga senores, meron ba sa inyong naka Onkyo-Wharfe diamond combi...review naman, thanks!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 22, 2004 at 09:13 AM
meron din tayong tito, vic and joey  ;D



Pre kilala natin yan.. palaging makasama parang dynamic duo, Batman & Robin, Starsky & Hutch,.....Superman & Wonderwoman?? ::) ::)



Pre, sino dun sa dala si Wonderwoman? ;D ;D

fish tayo mga senyor  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 22, 2004 at 09:37 AM
mga senores, meron ba sa inyong naka Onkyo-Wharfe diamond combi...review naman, thanks!  ;D

Sir had the chance to own an Onkyo 484 + Wharf 8.2, 8.1 & Center, my first setup for Audio, these gears are warm with a little detail, not fatiguing even long hours of listening, love the soft dome tweeter sound of Wharf, female vocals are smooth and high that just right but lack bass maybe due to 8.2 ( bookshelf ) For HT, this combo is fine, paired it with a good sub and placement yari na hehehehe.. pero mas type ko combo for audio than HT.. Yamaha naman sa HT kasi  ;D ;D ;D have this combo for 2 years..  :) :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 22, 2004 at 09:40 AM
meron din tayong tito, vic and joey  ;D

Uy sino mga ito?? idol yan..  ;D ;D ;D

Teka musta kaya  yun bili ni KID_lat?? Congrats ha.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 22, 2004 at 10:01 AM
Mukhang PUYAT si kid_LAT ah!!  ;D

Dinidibdib yung break-in, sineryoso ata yung 4 years daw ang break-in ng Wharfedale.  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 22, 2004 at 10:57 AM
Slayer,

Naku po... 4 years nga pala eh ilan hours palang.. >:D >:D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 22, 2004 at 11:08 AM
Ang chismis pa eh... after 4 years eh tunog Sonus Stradivari naraw!  :P
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 22, 2004 at 11:38 AM
Slayer,

Naku po... 4 years nga pala eh ilan hours palang.. >:D >:D ;D


Master, sgurado ako naka anim na oras yan kagabi kaya KID_lat  may 35,034 hours ka pang bubunuin. ;D ;D  KID_lat fish tayoooooo!!!! Congrats sir! Tube Amp ka na, tutal may tube preamp na eh! Lubuslubusin mo na! >:D

Ahahahahaha!!!! Pag na break-in na yan nasa diamond 12 na yung series. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 22, 2004 at 12:19 PM



Master, sgurado ako naka anim na oras yan kagabi kaya KID_lat  may 35,034 hours ka pang bubunuin. ;D ;D  KID_lat fish tayoooooo!!!! Congrats sir! Tube Amp ka na, tutal may tube preamp na eh! Lubuslubusin mo na! >:D

Ahahahahaha!!!! Pag na break-in na yan nasa diamond 12 na yung series. ;D ;D ;D

Tagal pala break-in nun!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 22, 2004 at 12:33 PM
salamat sa mga panlalait nyo  ;D ;D ;D

para sakin panalo  >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D kayo!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 22, 2004 at 12:46 PM

Master, sgurado ako naka anim na oras yan kagabi kaya KID_lat  may 35,034 hours ka pang bubunuin. ;D ;D  KID_lat fish tayoooooo!!!! Congrats sir! Tube Amp ka na, tutal may tube preamp na eh! Lubuslubusin mo na! >:D

Ahahahahaha!!!! Pag na break-in na yan nasa diamond 12 na yung series. ;D ;D ;D

next project natin yan  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 22, 2004 at 01:08 PM
nakow, d lang ako naka on-line for half a day haba haba na nitong thread nato ah!  :o

wonderwoman, tunog wanderlust yon ah, lang ya...... kayo mga fafa ha mga intriguera kayo! charing!!!! :-*

pro lam nyo mas sikat ang 3 stooges e. >:D

fisshhhhh lng tayo dyan ha, nyak nyak nyak! ;D, woohhh hoo..... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 22, 2004 at 01:12 PM
nga pala congrats sa new 8.3 owner ha! ngayon nya lang kinuha mga pre, though kahapon pa SOLD na yon, bagong bago pa yong 8.3, kararating lang. new stock sold agad!

on audition kinabit lang yong 8.3 sa rotel combi! panalo na agad tunog, lalo na bass!

 :-[ kakaingit naman!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 22, 2004 at 01:16 PM


next project natin yan  >:D >:D >:D

Umamin ka rin ah!  ;D Musta sir ang bago nating laruan? Sir, ingat lang dun sa grills niyan dahil madaling masira. :D  Sir bagay na bagay sa tube amp yan. EL-34 STC Pushpull, shoot na shoot yan tapos naka tube preamp, ay siya!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 22, 2004 at 01:17 PM
Nako!! UMAMIN DIN!!

Congrats SENYOR PUNK_KID sa Diamond 8.3!! Puyatan nanaman yan!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: benlouie on Jul 22, 2004 at 01:33 PM
i even heARD OUT THAT WHARFDALE SPEAKERS ARE INDEED MADE IN ASIA RYT NOW AND NOT MADE OF KEVLAR ANYMORE...
IT IS LIKE TO BE COMPARED TO AS SYNTHETIC LEATHER SHOES.
SOME AUDIO STORES MAY SAY BUY DAI-1CHI INSTEAD; IVE HEARD IT MYSELF, SOUND QUALITY IS EXCELLENT.....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 22, 2004 at 01:43 PM
i even heARD OUT THAT WHARFDALE SPEAKERS ARE INDEED MADE IN ASIA RYT NOW AND NOT MADE OF KEVLAR ANYMORE...

Majority of the speakers being sold right now are made china,indonesia, taiwan and the likes  but it doesn't mean that they are purely made in those countries but rather, are assembled there (cheap labor, perhaps). Another thing, it also doesn't mean that once a manufacturer bids out its' assembly line means that they also will be using low cost materials ::)

SOME AUDIO STORES MAY SAY BUY DAI-1CHI INSTEAD; IVE HEARD IT MYSELF, SOUND QUALITY IS EXCELLENT.....

Still boils down to proper matching/synergy of equipment, bro. BTW, was the unit you were able to listen to already broken-in?

Just my thoughts, peace bro. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Jul 22, 2004 at 01:46 PM
i even heARD OUT THAT WHARFDALE SPEAKERS ARE INDEED MADE IN ASIA RYT NOW AND NOT MADE OF KEVLAR ANYMORE...
IT IS LIKE TO BE COMPARED TO AS SYNTHETIC LEATHER SHOES.
SOME AUDIO STORES MAY SAY BUY DAI-1CHI INSTEAD; IVE HEARD IT MYSELF, SOUND QUALITY IS EXCELLENT.....

Yes indeed, made in ASIA but still made of KEVLAR, if not then you can sue Wharfedale.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Jul 22, 2004 at 01:57 PM
i even heARD OUT THAT WHARFDALE SPEAKERS ARE INDEED MADE IN ASIA RYT NOW AND NOT MADE OF KEVLAR ANYMORE...
IT IS LIKE TO BE COMPARED TO AS SYNTHETIC LEATHER SHOES.
SOME AUDIO STORES MAY SAY BUY DAI-1CHI INSTEAD; IVE HEARD IT MYSELF, SOUND QUALITY IS EXCELLENT.....

better post in the dai-1chi thread instead if you find the dai-1chi speakers better :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 22, 2004 at 02:00 PM


better post in the dai-1chi thread instead if you find the dai-1chi speakers better :)

sir, mukhang "trolling". Ahehehehehe ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Jul 22, 2004 at 02:01 PM
took the words out of my mouth kimpao  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 22, 2004 at 02:32 PM
made in asia? yes it is, in fact right at the back of every diamond being sold locally are the markings of MADE IN CHINA, so are missions, MADE IN INDONESIA (or at least my m70 is) and many other speaker brands, and this is mostly due to low cost of labor in the asia pacific region, specially CHINA and VIETNAM. in fact most products being sold here that used to be marked MADE IN THE PHILIPPINES are now imported from our neighboring countries.

Not Kevlar? i doubt it, otherwise wharedale instead of earning millions will lost billions by law suits for misleading the consumer public. and would a well-known speaker manufacturer whos already established a name in the industry take such lossing stance and risk?

comparing a relative possibility by jaxtaposing one that is made in china by  manufacturers who are so called "fly-by-night", those whos only intention is to decieve the public by unknown products and exaggerated claims, and to those whos intent is to reduce its over-head expenses so that it can offer its product more competitively in the market, is a way ward excuse for a rational being. much like watching a sat afternoon talk show, tsismis ika nga.

and let us not condemn all china made products as worthless wares, are there are lot of legit manufacturers and good products coming from there, what comes to mind are the kebao and other dvd players being sold locally which are all china made.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 22, 2004 at 05:28 PM
here we go.....  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 22, 2004 at 07:53 PM
i even heARD OUT THAT WHARFDALE SPEAKERS ARE INDEED MADE IN ASIA RYT NOW AND NOT MADE OF KEVLAR ANYMORE...
IT IS LIKE TO BE COMPARED TO AS SYNTHETIC LEATHER SHOES.
SOME AUDIO STORES MAY SAY BUY DAI-1CHI INSTEAD; IVE HEARD IT MYSELF, SOUND QUALITY IS EXCELLENT.....

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 22, 2004 at 10:16 PM
 ;D ;D ;D

My tummy is aching  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: losi_phile on Jul 22, 2004 at 10:39 PM
Anybody here who tried using Diamond 8.1s sa tube amp or GC nila?  How does it sound?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: torque on Jul 22, 2004 at 11:43 PM


Sir had the chance to own an Onkyo 484 + Wharf 8.2, 8.1 & Center, my first setup for Audio, these gears are warm with a little detail, not fatiguing even long hours of listening, love the soft dome tweeter sound of Wharf, female vocals are smooth and high that just right but lack bass maybe due to 8.2 ( bookshelf ) For HT, this combo is fine, paired it with a good sub and placement yari na hehehehe.. pero mas type ko combo for audio than HT.. Yamaha naman sa HT kasi  ;D ;D ;D have this combo for 2 years..  :) :)

h & f,
thanks for the feedback, the combo is better on audio pala...hmmm ipon muna ako pangbili ng receiver... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: positive_noise on Jul 23, 2004 at 08:51 AM
Hi Bro Torque,

mukhang mag oOnkyo kana w/ wharf diamond combi ah...  ;D

enjoy!
positive_noise. ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 23, 2004 at 09:17 AM


Umamin ka rin ah!  ;D Musta sir ang bago nating laruan? Sir, ingat lang dun sa grills niyan dahil madaling masira. :D  Sir bagay na bagay sa tube amp yan. EL-34 STC Pushpull, shoot na shoot yan tapos naka tube preamp, ay siya!

Nako!! UMAMIN DIN!!

Congrats SENYOR PUNK_KID sa Diamond 8.3!! Puyatan nanaman yan!!!  ;D

lubog na nga yung mga mata ko sa letcheng ganda ng tunog ng 8.3  ;D ;D ;D

lalo na siguro sa EL34 STC  >:D

tinanggal ko na yung grill nya pre lam kong mahina ito.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 23, 2004 at 09:22 AM
Panalo talaga noh?! Lalo na't naka XLO ka pa!! Igapang mo ang lows baybi!!   >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 23, 2004 at 09:22 AM
i even heARD OUT THAT WHARFDALE SPEAKERS ARE INDEED MADE IN ASIA RYT NOW AND NOT MADE OF KEVLAR ANYMORE...
IT IS LIKE TO BE COMPARED TO AS SYNTHETIC LEATHER SHOES.
SOME AUDIO STORES MAY SAY BUY DAI-1CHI INSTEAD; IVE HEARD IT MYSELF, SOUND QUALITY IS EXCELLENT.....

I definitely disagree with you bro. Wharfedale will not destroy their reputation by installing non-kevlar speaker even if they are assembled in asian countries.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on Jul 23, 2004 at 10:32 AM
Correct me here guys.  I heard kevlar is used be SWAT teams for their bullet-proof vests.  So maybe the only way to find out if the speaker driver is made of kevlar is..... ;D   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 23, 2004 at 11:29 AM
av_phile 1

Bro learned that also so in case your wife throw something at you pwede sya shield?? hehehehe  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 23, 2004 at 01:17 PM
guys, just a thought, maybe we could have an actual shoot-out this time, using GUNS ;D to test the sufficiency of the kevlar to expel bullets. >:D

the real stress test eto! ;D

gamitin natin guinea pig yong 8.3 ni punk_kid, eto alam kung pina ka bagong speaker na alam ko e! >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 23, 2004 at 01:22 PM
wanderlust,

Tama... matigas pa yan kasi bago pa!  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 23, 2004 at 01:28 PM
calling punk_kid........

o ano shoot-out na! ill provide the bullets! ;D >:D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Jul 23, 2004 at 02:08 PM
wag nyo lang tamaan yung dust cap..di yon kevlar hehe ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 23, 2004 at 02:16 PM
av_phile 1

Bro learned that also so in case your wife throw something at you pwede sya shield?? hehehehe  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Sir, mas mahirap kung yung 8.3 mismo ang ihahagis sa iyo!!!!!Bwahahaha!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: lance on Jul 23, 2004 at 02:27 PM
ha ha ha.pambihirang patis......niyayari nyo naman yung mga naka kevlar cone dyan eh.  ;D eh di pag sa gyera pla eh pwede kang magpatugtog habang nakasuot sa katawan mo yun. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 23, 2004 at 04:13 PM
ha ha ha.pambihirang patis......niyayari nyo naman yung mga naka kevlar cone dyan eh.  ;D eh di pag sa gyera pla eh pwede kang magpatugtog habang nakasuot sa katawan mo yun. ;D

Bro sila walang protection hehehehehe  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 23, 2004 at 04:24 PM


Bro sila walang protection hehehehehe  ;D ;D ;D ;D


payo nga ng DOH, dapat laging my suot na protection!  ::);D

kaya lng kung sa gyera mo gawin yan tukoy ka agad! malakas "bumayo"  ::)yong 8.3 e lalo pag ikinabit sa el-34 con todo! pero, panalo pa rin!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 23, 2004 at 04:32 PM
wanderlust,

8.3 try natin sa Hafler yan mas maganda for sure!!! >:D >:D

Prend Punk_kid,

baka gusto mo lang naman?? to hear what your 8.3 can do.. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 23, 2004 at 05:26 PM
wanderlust,

8.3 try natin sa Hafler yan mas maganda for sure!!! >:D >:D

Prend Punk_kid,

baka gusto mo lang naman?? to hear what your 8.3 can do.. ;) ;)

hintayin muna nating ma break-in tong manok ko para d mapahiya  >:D

balik kevlar din ko senyor  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 23, 2004 at 05:37 PM


hintayin muna nating ma break-in tong manok ko para d mapahiya  >:D

balik kevlar din ko senyor  ;D ;D ;D

prend punk_kid,

tweak mo agad ng sand filling para mas tighter yun bass and clearer mids.. hehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 23, 2004 at 05:48 PM


prend punk_kid,

tweak mo agad ng sand filling para mas tighter yun bass and clearer mids.. hehehehe

tweak na agad di pa nga break-in, parang kuntento na ko sa bass nya maliit lang kasi listening place ko eh.

obserbahan ko muna prend
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 23, 2004 at 05:50 PM
Senyor punk_kid,

Iba ang mabigat senor hehehehe may dating.. >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 23, 2004 at 05:51 PM
kid_lat,

Oo nga... ako pinagiipunan ko pa yung pang tweak ko.  Mahal kasi ticket papuntang boracay eh! Ahehehehe...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 23, 2004 at 05:55 PM
kid_lat,

Oo nga... ako pinagiipunan ko pa yung pang tweak ko.  Mahal kasi ticket papuntang boracay eh! Ahehehehe...  ;D

kuha mo na rin ko pag punta mo don ahehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 23, 2004 at 10:54 PM
guys, just a thought, maybe we could have an actual shoot-out this time, using GUNS ;D to test the sufficiency of the kevlar to expel bullets. >:D

the real stress test eto! ;D

gamitin natin guinea pig yong 8.3 ni punk_kid, eto alam kung pina ka bagong speaker na alam ko e! >:D >:D >:D

Pwede ako dyan... meron ako Taurus PT-92 9mm, Colt Goldcup 45ACP, at STI 45ACP stock racegun... hhmmm... basta kevlar na speaker shootout call ako dyan.

Punk_kid, try natin!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 25, 2004 at 08:12 PM
Masta JOJOd,

Gusto mo ma KID_latan!!!




fish fish...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [r0n1n] on Jul 26, 2004 at 07:59 AM
makikisingit lang poww...

spectra had this demo at park square and i was intrigued to look for the pacific evo series. when i saw their price list, they had a separate list for their pacific AND evo series. i thought at first they're one and the same pero mukhang magkaiba ata (based dun sa price list). please enlighten me mga gurus  :D

also i saw the wharf's crystal series, cheaper compared to diamonds. had anyone ever auditioned these stuff?

thanks!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 26, 2004 at 08:46 AM
makikisingit lang poww...

spectra had this demo at park square and i was intrigued to look for the pacific evo series. when i saw their price list, they had a separate list for their pacific AND evo series. i thought at first they're one and the same pero mukhang magkaiba ata (based dun sa price list). please enlighten me mga gurus  :D

also i saw the wharf's crystal series, cheaper compared to diamonds. had anyone ever auditioned these stuff?

thanks!  ;D



Bro yun Pacific Evolution series are new released of Pacific series yun former was Pacific PI..   :) :) :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 26, 2004 at 08:52 AM
Masta JOJOd,

Gusto mo ma KID_latan!!!




fish fish...

Kailangan magsuot ako ng kevlar para hindi ma KID_latan!!! Baka mapasigaw ako ng VOLTA!!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [r0n1n] on Jul 27, 2004 at 12:10 PM
Bro yun Pacific Evolution series are new released of Pacific series yun former was Pacific PI..   :) :) :)

sir hans guru ka talaga!  ;) e yung Evo series iba pa din yun? same price range sya ng B&W at mission e  ??? sensya na madami tanong  :D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 27, 2004 at 02:41 PM


sir hans guru ka talaga!  ;) e yung Evo series iba pa din yun? same price range sya ng B&W at mission e  ??? sensya na madami tanong  :D



Sir Wharfedale Pacific Evolution Series is different from Aegis EVO series.  The previous Wharfedale Pacific Evolution Series sports a protruding tweeter or has a separate tweeter enclosure on top of the speaker enclosure. The newer one has its tweeter embedded on the enclosure.  EVO series is a different story, this one is made by Acoustic Evolution.  Sir, alin ba dito sa dalawa ang nakita o type natin?  ;D

Wharfedale Pacific Evolution 30

(http://img14.photobucket.com/albums/v41/kimpao/evo30.jpg)

Acoustic Energy Aegis EVO3

(http://img14.photobucket.com/albums/v41/kimpao/aegis_evo3.gif)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimosabe on Jul 27, 2004 at 03:02 PM
Guys,

Saan naba makakabili ngayon ng murang 8.4? Brand new ha.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 27, 2004 at 03:26 PM
Tumaas na talaga presyo... 7+ na ang 8.3 at 8+ naman ang 8.4.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: zakkaz on Jul 27, 2004 at 04:08 PM
Guys,

Saan naba makakabili ngayon ng murang 8.4? Brand new ha.

Thanks.
u can try visit spectra @ parksquare 1 ayala center
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 27, 2004 at 04:10 PM
Tumaas na talaga presyo... 7+ na ang 8.3 at 8+ naman ang 8.4.
Kagagawan mo yan slayer! Ikaw ang salarin kung bakit tumaasa ang presyo niyan! Ahehehehehehe >:D >:D  fish sticks tayo!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 27, 2004 at 04:15 PM
at ni kid_lat, hihihihik.

fish pre!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 27, 2004 at 04:48 PM
Hindi ako... si FPJ.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimosabe on Jul 27, 2004 at 04:53 PM
Guys, wag nyo munang puriin ng husto ang wharfedale baka magkaroon ulit ng price increase hintayin nyo muna kaming makabili. Parang awa nyo na hirap na hirap na kami :'(  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 27, 2004 at 04:56 PM
Guys, wag nyo munang puriin ng husto ang wharfedale baka magkaroon ulit ng price increase hintayin nyo muna kaming makabili. Parang awa nyo na hirap na hirap na kami :'(  ;D ;D

bumili na kayo at baka abutan pa ng price increase  ;D tested na sa tubo ito  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 27, 2004 at 05:14 PM
Tried and tested di lang sa tubo... pati narin sa HK/XLO combi!  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 27, 2004 at 05:17 PM
ganda rin sa rotel/xlo combi  ;D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 27, 2004 at 06:18 PM
Tried and tested di lang sa tubo... pati narin sa HK/XLO combi!  >:D

ganda rin sa rotel/xlo combi  ;D >:D

Kanya-kanya ng buhatan ng bangko! Ahehehehehehe!!!!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 27, 2004 at 10:09 PM
Senyor Kimpao,

Price increase pati pala Wharf nadale..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 28, 2004 at 12:20 AM
Senyor Kimpao,

Price increase pati pala Wharf nadale..

Ahahahahahaha!!!!!! Kayo kasi, ikinabit-kabit pa kasi sa tubo ayan tuloy nag-taasan ang presyo ng whafdale lalo na yung diamond series. >:(  slayer at KID_lat, hala kasalanan niyo yan! ;D ;D ;D Ahehehehehehe!!!!! fish salciado po tayooooooo!!!!!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 28, 2004 at 09:13 AM
sENYOR kIMPao,

Kahit naman Monitor Audio eh kayo may kagagawan.. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Jul 28, 2004 at 09:20 AM
Master, sa MA hindi kayo kundi tayo. :o :o Ahehehehehe!!!!!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Jul 28, 2004 at 09:31 AM
Langhiya! Nagutom ako bigla sa salciado...  ;D



Ahahahahahaha!!!!!! Kayo kasi, ikinabit-kabit pa kasi sa tubo ayan tuloy nag-taasan ang presyo ng whafdale lalo na yung diamond series. >:(  slayer at KID_lat, hala kasalanan niyo yan! ;D ;D ;D Ahehehehehehe!!!!! fish salciado po tayooooooo!!!!!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 28, 2004 at 10:00 AM
Master, sa MA hindi kayo kundi tayo. :o :o Ahehehehehe!!!!!! ;D ;D

Opsss oo nga pala..  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 28, 2004 at 01:22 PM
kaya ako sa tot....... na lng! affordable na, wla pang price increase my 50% sale and free delivery pa. hanep din after sales service. hikihikihik. ;D


panalo din sa tunog, buy pinoy pa. o dba patriotic ang dating. ahehehe. ;D wag lang don sa mga nang aaway.  >:D
 
fish po tayo..... ha. :-[
O0 O0 O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 28, 2004 at 05:41 PM


Ahahahahahaha!!!!!! Kayo kasi, ikinabit-kabit pa kasi sa tubo ayan tuloy nag-taasan ang presyo ng whafdale lalo na yung diamond series. >:(  slayer at KID_lat, hala kasalanan niyo yan! ;D ;D ;D Ahehehehehehe!!!!! fish salciado po tayooooooo!!!!!!!!!! ;D

si slayer lang  ;D dinala pa kasi yung 8.3 nya pati tuloy ako napabili hikhikhik


ST slayer fish feley po!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 28, 2004 at 05:42 PM
kaya ako sa tot....... na lng! affordable na, wla pang price increase my 50% sale and free delivery pa. hanep din after sales service. hikihikihik. ;D


panalo din sa tunog, buy pinoy pa. o dba patriotic ang dating. ahehehe. ;D wag lang don sa mga nang aaway.  >:D
 
fish po tayo..... ha. :-[
O0 O0 O0

wonder......,

mali ata ang post mo ahihihihi

congrats! napa floorstander ka rin pala bwahahahaha
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [r0n1n] on Jul 28, 2004 at 06:10 PM
Sir Wharfedale Pacific Evolution Series is different from Aegis EVO series.  The previous Wharfedale Pacific Evolution Series sports a protruding tweeter or has a separate tweeter enclosure on top of the speaker enclosure. The newer one has its tweeter embedded on the enclosure.  EVO series is a different story, this one is made by Acoustic Evolution.  Sir, alin ba dito sa dalawa ang nakita o type natin?  ;D
Wharfedale Pacific Evolution 30

(http://img14.photobucket.com/albums/v41/kimpao/evo30.jpg)

Acoustic Energy Aegis EVO3

(http://img14.photobucket.com/albums/v41/kimpao/aegis_evo3.gif)

sir kimpao,
thanks for the info. i believe pacific evo 10 (bookshelf) ang nakita ko kaya lang as usual hanggang pangarap lang muna  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 28, 2004 at 07:54 PM
rOnin,

Kaya yan sir.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 29, 2004 at 09:14 AM
uy, ganda nun speaker na nasa pic!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 29, 2004 at 01:54 PM
nga e mali ata ako..... cge na nga 8.3 na uli sir punk, musta na pala 8.3 mo, gumganda ba lalo? dinig ko lagi ka raw namimis nya. hehehe.

wharfedale owner pa rin din nman ako e, center na nga lang. hehehe. oy, babalik na pala sya ngyn sa akin, pina tweak ko e. HT n uli ako.  ;Dhehehe.

sir punk bagay dyan sa 8.3 mo center ko, gusto mo para nasa center tlga yong 2nog pag nagpatugtug ka. ahihihihi. >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 29, 2004 at 03:50 PM
nga e mali ata ako..... cge na nga 8.3 na uli sir punk, musta na pala 8.3 mo, gumganda ba lalo? dinig ko lagi ka raw namimis nya. hehehe.

wharfedale owner pa rin din nman ako e, center na nga lang. hehehe. oy, babalik na pala sya ngyn sa akin, pina tweak ko e. HT n uli ako.  ;Dhehehe.

sir punk bagay dyan sa 8.3 mo center ko, gusto mo para nasa center tlga yong 2nog pag nagpatugtug ka. ahihihihi. >:D >:D >:D

nasa break-in process pa bro. late na rin kasi ko nakakauwi eh kaya miss nya ko hehehe.

parang nasa harap ko na yung singer kaya no need na sa center mo hihihi
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 29, 2004 at 04:46 PM
Punk_kid,

Balita ko 4 years to break in Wharf ;D ;D kaya dapat pala sir 24/7??



fish sticks...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Jul 29, 2004 at 04:58 PM
Punk_kid,

Balita ko 4 years to break in Wharf ;D ;D kaya dapat pala sir 24/7??



fish sticks...

ok lang madami naman tayong naka wharf dito hehehe

may PM ka senyor
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 29, 2004 at 11:29 PM
punk_KID,

Confirmed from Mr Andrew pwede sa pagburn ng cd kaya meron distortion tweeter to make sure interchange your speaker and play the cd again if initially sa left yun distortion dapat dun pa rin when you repeat it..  :) :) kaya don't worry po. O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Aug 04, 2004 at 12:59 PM
mukhang my prolema agad wharfe natin sir ah, dont worry ur just being paranoid, ganyan tlga pag mahal mo gamit mo, ingat na ingat ka!

but i seriously hope wlang problem sir, otherwise, warranty time!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Aug 04, 2004 at 02:11 PM
punk_KID,

Confirmed from Mr Andrew pwede sa pagburn ng cd kaya meron distortion tweeter to make sure interchange your speaker and play the cd again if initially sa left yun distortion dapat dun pa rin when you repeat it..  :) :) kaya don't worry po. O0

yan din yung suspect ko pre, sa burning ng cd may konting distortion sa tweeter. i'll try that suggestion. salamas!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: vircor on Aug 04, 2004 at 06:42 PM
Trolling lang...

I was at the listening room megamall last sunday window shopping (again  ;D ) and canvass the price of wharfs which were as follows:

8.4 = 9,000/pair
8.3 = 7,500/pair
8.1 = 5,000/pair
center = 4,200

Mga bro parang tumaas yata? ???

Anyway, I never had the chance to audition them though coz the wife and kids were waiting outside the store.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: vircor on Aug 04, 2004 at 06:47 PM
Meron bang store bandang north selling wharfs? kahit bandang sm north?

Dun sa mga owners, ano masasabi nyo sa 8.4, 8.3, 8.1 in terms of sound quality? I'm particular kasi sa mids then sa highs - gusto ko clean, clear and crisp yung sound. am planning to use it for ht and audio pairing with my Yam 440, kaya kaya?
Ano kaya kung puro 8.1?  :) :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 05, 2004 at 07:18 AM
vicor,

It would be best to audition Wharf and yamaha.. I heard HK paired with Wharf and its a good combo..as for store i don't think meron near SM city.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 05, 2004 at 07:21 AM
mukhang my prolema agad wharfe natin sir ah, dont worry ur just being paranoid, ganyan tlga pag mahal mo gamit mo, ingat na ingat ka!

but i seriously hope wlang problem sir, otherwise, warranty time!

Punk_kid,

OO nga hehehhe walang problem yan.. btw meron akong magic cd for break in mas maganda ito.. kasi puro pink noise and pwede specific area bass, mid and high..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Aug 05, 2004 at 07:50 AM


Punk_kid,

OO nga hehehhe walang problem yan.. btw meron akong magic cd for break in mas maganda ito.. kasi puro pink noise and pwede specific area bass, mid and high..

pre wink wink alam mo na ;) tunkol sa cd na yan ;D

para di OT - i was at electronics depot at festival mall yesterday and they had a pacific evo floorstander pero 2 way lang, same color as your Hans
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on Aug 05, 2004 at 12:35 PM
Trolling lang...

I was at the listening room megamall last sunday window shopping (again  ;D ) and canvass the price of wharfs which were as follows:

8.4 = 9,000/pair
8.3 = 7,500/pair
8.1 = 5,000/pair
center = 4,200

Mga bro parang tumaas yata? ???

Anyway, I never had the chance to audition them though coz the wife and kids were waiting outside the store.

Parang hindi.  Those asking prices are kinda familiar from early last year when I got the center before settling for the MS.  But I think I got one with some discounts.   

And I know the pressures of having the wife and kids at the mall.   ;D  Suggest you audition them alone or with friends of the same hobby.  And surprise them when you bring your new toys home.   ;D  Or is it the wifey who heads the treasury department?   ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Aug 05, 2004 at 01:13 PM


Punk_kid,

OO nga hehehhe walang problem yan.. btw meron akong magic cd for break in mas maganda ito.. kasi puro pink noise and pwede specific area bass, mid and high..

oy, ok yan sir ah. pahiram ako! d pa cgro alam ni punk e, d pa nagrereact, kaya unahan ko na.  >:D ;Dhehehe.

meron naman akong xlo burn-in reference.  ;) just in case ur intrested. been using this to burn in the new floor standers.
 :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Jan3 on Aug 05, 2004 at 02:09 PM
pwede kaya dito yung Pioneer Vsx-d812-s, specs nya 100W x 6, continous power @10 % THD, 6-16 ohms, 80 W stereo [email protected]% THD(20hz~20khz), 6~16 ohms. ano kayang sub ang pwede ko i match at aling combi para sa front & rear speakers. advise lang mga gurus. thanks.
Trolling lang...

I was at the listening room megamall last sunday window shopping (again  ;D ) and canvass the price of wharfs which were as follows:

8.4 = 9,000/pair
8.3 = 7,500/pair
8.1 = 5,000/pair
center = 4,200

Mga bro parang tumaas yata? ???

Anyway, I never had the chance to audition them though coz the wife and kids were waiting outside the store.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: vircor on Aug 05, 2004 at 05:00 PM
Last sunday I was at the Listening Room in Megamall doing some window shopping (again ;D ) ask for the prices of the wharf diamonds which were as follows:

8.4 = 9,000/pair
8.3 = 7,500/pair
8.1 = 5,000/pair
center = 4,200

Parang ang taas na yata mga bro?  ??? ??? ???

Anyway, I was not able to audition thoroughly the units coz the wife and the kids were waiting outside the store so  I guess next time na lang.

 :) :) :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: vircor on Aug 05, 2004 at 05:01 PM
Ano ba masasabi ng mga owners jan regarding sound quality ng 8.4, 8.3 and 8.1 especially kung broken-in na?
Is it ok kaya kung puro 8.1 kunin ko? I'm very particular on the quality of the mids, second yung highs - gusto ko clear, clean and crisp yung combi nila. I'll be using it on my entry level Yam 440.

 :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: vircor on Aug 05, 2004 at 05:03 PM


Parang hindi.  Those asking prices are kinda familiar from early last year when I got the center before settling for the MS.  But I think I got one with some discounts.   

And I know the pressures of having the wife and kids at the mall.   ;D  Suggest you audition them alone or with friends of the same hobby.  And surprise them when you bring your new toys home.   ;D  Or is it the wifey who heads the treasury department?   ;D



Ahahahaha!  ;D NO COMMENT!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Aug 05, 2004 at 05:07 PM


Punk_kid,

OO nga hehehhe walang problem yan.. btw meron akong magic cd for break in mas maganda ito.. kasi puro pink noise and pwede specific area bass, mid and high..

ok pahiram na lang nyan bago c wanderwoman  ;D fish cake tayo wanderlust

Trolling lang...

I was at the listening room megamall last sunday window shopping (again  ;D ) and canvass the price of wharfs which were as follows:

8.4 = 9,000/pair
8.3 = 7,500/pair
8.1 = 5,000/pair
center = 4,200

Mga bro parang tumaas yata? ???

Anyway, I never had the chance to audition them though coz the wife and kids were waiting outside the store.

they have a 5% discount on wharfs.

Meron bang store bandang north selling wharfs? kahit bandang sm north?

Dun sa mga owners, ano masasabi nyo sa 8.4, 8.3, 8.1 in terms of sound quality? I'm particular kasi sa mids then sa highs - gusto ko clean, clear and crisp yung sound. am planning to use it for ht and audio pairing with my Yam 440, kaya kaya?
Ano kaya kung puro 8.1?  :) :)

i suggest you use 8.3 for fronts and 8.1 for rear para di ka mabitin sa bass. i heard  yamaha and wharfs are also a good combo.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: vircor on Aug 05, 2004 at 05:17 PM
OK, will do kung libre na. TY! :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Aug 06, 2004 at 12:47 PM
kid_lat,

cge pahiram ko n din syo yong xlo reference burn-in cd, para mahiram ko din yang kay hans from you. myehehehe. ikaw ng bahala sa mga spaceship at alien na yan ha. gamitan mo na lng ng kidlat (aka. volta) pag pumalag! ahahaha.

sir, vircor, the 8.4 will be quite boomy for the yammy wharf set-up, so the 8.3 would be the best option. an all out 8.1 set-up (L, R, RL, RR) will be suffecient for a small room setting, just dont forget the Subs, as the 8.1 lacks all the punch needed in an HT viewing experience more so in audio.

personally i think a yammy wharf combi (i used to have one, still have the yammy) will not be able to meet your rated expectations as i can wharfs specially the diamond series needs serious power to be able to perform well enough (i suggest the HK then). or maybe you can have them tweaked (for an additional cost). this is just me of course.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 06, 2004 at 04:33 PM
wanderlust,

HK and wharf are very good combo..due to wharf are power hungry and HK can provide the power it need to SING.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Aug 06, 2004 at 04:55 PM
my point really sir. thnx for clarifiying it.

if not for the darn all audio bug, i would have upgraded my yammy to an HK and retained my all diamond set-up. now i only have my center (tweaked) to remind me how it is to have SARS!

hay......
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 06, 2004 at 04:59 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D opss
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Aug 06, 2004 at 05:27 PM
wanderlust,

HK and wharf are very good combo..due to wharf are power hungry and HK can provide the power it need to SING.. ;D ;D

if wharfs are power hungry then it needs the power of an EL34 PP amp  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 06, 2004 at 05:31 PM
Kid_lat,

Ganyan combo ng audio ko.. hehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Aug 06, 2004 at 05:33 PM
Kid_lat,

Ganyan combo ng audio ko.. hehehehe

kaya nga idol ka namin eh  ;D konting tiis pa malapit na naman bonus  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: odyopayl on Aug 06, 2004 at 05:49 PM
Kid_lat,

Ganyan combo ng audio ko.. hehehehe
Ganda ng Speaker ni Master Hans, shhhh di siya Diamond 8, higher model than that! Pacific evolution series ba yun? (like B&W 800 series) Ibang klase soundstage!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 06, 2004 at 05:56 PM

Ganda ng Speaker ni Master Hans, shhhh di siya Diamond 8, higher model than that! Pacific evolution series ba yun? (like B&W 800 series) Ibang klase soundstage!

Odyopayl,

Senor mas maganda combo ng Amp and target speaker mo na tulad kay Sir levi..  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Aug 08, 2004 at 03:25 AM

Ganda ng Speaker ni Master Hans, shhhh di siya Diamond 8, higher model than that! Pacific evolution series ba yun? (like B&W 800 series) Ibang klase soundstage!

tsaka nag iisa lang yan dito sa pinoy hehehehe .............kuyang hanssssssss pis ta u
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 08, 2004 at 07:09 PM


tsaka nag iisa lang yan dito sa pinoy hehehehe .............kuyang hanssssssss pis ta u

J_albert,

Mahilig ako magsolo.. hehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Aug 09, 2004 at 07:31 AM


J_albert,

Mahilig ako magsolo.. hehehehe


PANO KC KAYA NAGSOSOLO DAHIL ISA LANG EVO 30 MO NA DUMATING DITO SA PINAS HEHEHHEHEHE
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 09, 2004 at 08:17 AM



PANO KC KAYA NAGSOSOLO DAHIL ISA LANG EVO 30 MO NA DUMATING DITO SA PINAS HEHEHHEHEHE

pssst meron na 3 pairs sold after a few months hehhehehe kaya di na ako nag-iisaaaa.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Aug 09, 2004 at 08:30 AM


pssst meron na 3 pairs sold after a few months hehhehehe kaya di na ako nag-iisaaaa.. ;D ;D

oks lang yan hans...proud ka naman sa evo30 mo...di ba??? jk jk jk fish!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 09, 2004 at 08:32 AM


oks lang yan hans...proud ka naman sa evo30 mo...di ba??? jk jk jk fish!

OO naman iba na sexy curves. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Aug 09, 2004 at 04:56 PM
i second that, seen it heard it and touch the one and only evo of sir hans.... one of a kind!!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Aug 09, 2004 at 05:43 PM
i second that, seen it heard it and touch the one and only evo of sir hans.... one of a kind!!!!

di naman daw, may bumili na rin ng evo30 bumbay nga lang  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Aug 09, 2004 at 07:19 PM
i second that, seen it heard it and touch the one and only evo of sir hans.... one of a kind!!!!

Sus! ikaw nadinig at nahipo lang, ako nabuhat ko na evo ni hans! hahahaha
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 09, 2004 at 10:19 PM
Guys,

Pag break in ng Evo30 after 4 years daw eh.. shootout ulit hehehehe ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Aug 09, 2004 at 10:31 PM
Guys,

Pag break in ng Evo30 after 4 years daw eh.. shootout ulit hehehehe ;D ;D

Yan ka na naman, tpos natatakot ka pag nilalakas namin volume.  :P  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 09, 2004 at 10:42 PM


Yan ka na naman, tpos natatakot ka pag nilalakas namin volume.  :P  ;D ;D ;D

Mahina loob ko sir.. di ko matiis na mabugbog sya..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Aug 09, 2004 at 10:59 PM


Mahina loob ko sir.. di ko matiis na mabugbog sya..

eh ang ganda kasi tunog ng speakers mo eh, di mapigil ilakas yn volume.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Aug 10, 2004 at 09:45 AM
Guys,

Pag break in ng Evo30 after 4 years daw eh.. shootout ulit hehehehe ;D ;D

sir, baka Evo70 na makalaban nyan sa shoot out hihihihi
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 10, 2004 at 10:02 AM


sir, baka Evo70 na makalaban nyan sa shoot out hihihihi

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D sir musta 8.3??
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Aug 10, 2004 at 10:18 AM


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D sir musta 8.3??

ganda na tumunog sir pero di pa break in kasi wala pang 4 years eh  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Aug 10, 2004 at 11:30 AM


ganda na tumunog sir pero di pa break in kasi wala pang 4 years eh  ;D

shootout palagi para mabilis breakin.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Aug 10, 2004 at 11:58 AM
kung pwede nga lang kaso la kong sasakyan para bitbitin ko lagi tong 8.3 ko hehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Aug 10, 2004 at 12:03 PM
kung pwede nga lang kaso la kong sasakyan para bitbitin ko lagi tong 8.3 ko hehehe

eh di shootout ka palagi dyan sa inyo! hahaha  ;D ;D ;D parang palagi may party sa bahay nyo pre.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Aug 10, 2004 at 01:02 PM


eh di shootout ka palagi dyan sa inyo! hahaha  ;D ;D ;D parang palagi may party sa bahay nyo pre.  ;D

langya nga pre! panay tuloy ang gulaman sa amin dahil ang ganda daw ng sounds ko  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Aug 10, 2004 at 01:05 PM


langya nga pre! panay tuloy ang gulaman sa amin dahil ang ganda daw ng sounds ko  ;D ;D


ayus! pati ikaw na-break in din! hik hik hik  ;D  fish fries tayo! hik


 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Aug 10, 2004 at 01:05 PM


eh di shootout ka palagi dyan sa inyo! hahaha  ;D ;D ;D parang palagi may party sa bahay nyo pre.  ;D

langya nga pre! panay tuloy ang gulaman sa amin dahil ang ganda daw ng sounds ko  ;D ;D napupuyat lalo tuloy ako  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Aug 10, 2004 at 04:16 PM


langya nga pre! panay tuloy ang gulaman sa amin dahil ang ganda daw ng sounds ko  ;D ;D napupuyat lalo tuloy ako  ;D


hehehe, di bale sa sounds ka mapuyat sir, wag lang sa ibang dahilan.  >:D ;D ;D Fish!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Aug 10, 2004 at 04:40 PM

hehehe, di bale sa sounds ka mapuyat sir, wag lang sa ibang dahilan.  >:D ;D ;D Fish!

nakakapuyat talaga sir mag break-in ng mga gears, may warning memo na ko sa work dahil dito sa hobby natin  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Aug 10, 2004 at 04:42 PM


nakakapuyat talaga sir mag break-in ng mga gears, may warning memo na ko sa work dahil dito sa hobby natin  ;D ;D

dalhin mo na lang sa work para lagi maaga pasok mo and gusto mo lagi overtime.  ;D

Good idea no?!?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Aug 10, 2004 at 04:50 PM
good idea yan bro, kaya lang baka next working day tanggal na ko ahehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 10, 2004 at 07:09 PM
Ako din panay na late sa work.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Aug 10, 2004 at 07:20 PM
pag laging 2am ang soundtrip mo, sigurado laging late tayo hehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 10, 2004 at 07:44 PM
pag laging 2am ang soundtrip mo, sigurado laging late tayo hehehe

Grabe ka Senor PUnk.. 2 am ako 12mn eh hirap na..iba talga meron 8.3 bago..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Aug 10, 2004 at 08:08 PM
kailangan kasi ma breakin mabuti kaya inaabot ng 2am.

eh ako nga kagagawa ng gainclone inaabot ng 4am eh. kaya tuwing tatawag si hans sa bahay bagong gising ako. hehehe  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Aug 11, 2004 at 09:07 AM


Grabe ka Senor PUnk.. 2 am ako 12mn eh hirap na..iba talga meron 8.3 bago..

hinahabol ko kasi yung 4 year break-in period  ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Aug 11, 2004 at 04:58 PM
kailangan kasi ma breakin mabuti kaya inaabot ng 2am.

eh ako nga kagagawa ng gainclone inaabot ng 4am eh. kaya tuwing tatawag si hans sa bahay bagong gising ako. hehehe  ;D

oy.... gainclone my nagpagaw ba syo sir? kilala ko kaya e2?

sir punk @ hans,

e ako nga hangang 3 am e. buti na lang wala akong time in, pero puro padinig na ako dito sa opis...... hehehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Aug 11, 2004 at 05:41 PM


oy.... gainclone my nagpagaw ba syo sir? kilala ko kaya e2?

sir punk @ hans,

e ako nga hangang 3 am e. buti na lang wala akong time in, pero puro padinig na ako dito sa opis...... hehehehe.

kaya pala lagi wala sa table pag umaga eh hahaha
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 11, 2004 at 05:51 PM
Wonderlust and Punk_kid,

Yan mahirap eh....palaging kayong late..








tigil na work!!!  :P :P :P  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Aug 11, 2004 at 05:55 PM
May nagpagawa nga.... panibagong evolution na naman ng hybrid gc ito. Sure bagay na bagay sa Wharfs ito.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Aug 11, 2004 at 05:57 PM
Wonderlust and Punk_kid,

Yan mahirap eh....palaging kayong late..








tigil na work!!!  :P :P :P  ;D ;D ;D

delikado pag ala ng work....


ala na rin audio hehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Aug 11, 2004 at 09:47 PM
matindi na yan pag wala na work!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Aug 11, 2004 at 09:55 PM
May nagpagawa nga.... panibagong evolution na naman ng hybrid gc ito. Sure bagay na bagay sa Wharfs ito.  ;D

uy may pinahihiwatig ka yata ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Aug 11, 2004 at 09:58 PM


uy may pinahihiwatig ka yata ;D

nakuh wala naman. sinabi ko lang bagay yun sa Wharfs para di OT  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 11, 2004 at 10:23 PM
Masta JOJOd,

Kala ko blind item naman showbiz!! ;) ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Aug 11, 2004 at 10:26 PM
Masta JOJOd,

Kala ko blind item naman showbiz!! ;) ;)


Oo nga, sa showbiz yan blind item.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 12, 2004 at 11:08 AM
Punk_kid,

Bro try to replace the jumpers of you 8.3 for must cleaner sound.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Aug 12, 2004 at 11:10 AM
Punk_kid,

Bro try to replace the jumpers of you 8.3 for must cleaner sound.. ;D ;D

Sir san nakakabit yun jumpers na yan? sa terminals?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Aug 12, 2004 at 11:14 AM
Punk_kid,

Bro try to replace the jumpers of you 8.3 for must cleaner sound.. ;D ;D

i already put a jumper on the speaker terminal using my xlo vdo speaker cable and i agree that it has more cleaner sound.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 12, 2004 at 11:15 AM
JojoD Masta,

OO naman di pwede sa meralco... hehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Aug 12, 2004 at 11:17 AM
JojoD Masta,

OO naman di pwede sa meralco... hehehehe

Nakuh takot ako dyan.... basta jumper ayaw ko nyan.  ::) ;D ;D ;D

Meron nga ako jumper na maong pero di ko sinusuot. Gulo no? ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Aug 12, 2004 at 11:19 AM


Nakuh takot ako dyan.... basta jumper ayaw ko nyan.  ::) ;D ;D ;D

Meron nga ako jumper na maong pero di ko sinusuot. Gulo no? ;D

Uy meron din kami niyan sa bahay, kumakahol at na ngangagat pa! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 12, 2004 at 11:24 AM
Guys,

Puro kaya kalokohan...







Kim, gulaman later?? text akyat.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Aug 12, 2004 at 11:26 AM
Guys,

Puro kaya kalokohan...







Kim, gulaman later?? text akyat.

OKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sigue sir! PC o Nipa?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 12, 2004 at 11:30 AM
Kimpao,

Pag ulan... nipa
Pag di ulan PC
 ;D ;D
OT
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Aug 12, 2004 at 12:12 PM
Kimpao,

Pag ulan... nipa
Pag di ulan PC
 ;D ;D
OT

Hhmmm.... iba pa ba yun NIPA & PC sa TT & PP?  ::)

Wish I can come, kaso papaluin na ako nyan.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ricky on Aug 12, 2004 at 12:40 PM
Sir HANS,KIMPAO and AKYAT,sorry to butt in pro i think we live in the same area.been reading your posts eversince pro hiya lang ako singit since im quite new sa forums until kita ko pc(pioneer center?) and nipa(nipahut?pasig)na malapit where i live.Sana if im not impossing too much baka i can join any one of your sessions,hilig din ako sa gulaman lalo na pag may SAGO,hehehe. ;D have a nice day guys.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Aug 12, 2004 at 12:46 PM
welcome naman kahit sinong member dito ang pupunta sa mga sessions namin.

bring your own baon nga lang  ;D

guys,

muhkang regular session nyo na yan ah.... sarap siguro sumama.... puro kwela este audio ang topic  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: vircor on Aug 12, 2004 at 04:49 PM
I would want to use four 8.3s sana but basing on some computations and judging from the specs alone, it seems that I cannot use my RXV440 with the Diamond 8's. :P

8.1, 8.2, 8.3 & Center all have 86dB Efficiency at 6 ohms. Although all have recommended amplification of 20-120 Watts RMS, iiyak yung receiver ko rated only at 65 Watts RMS (20 Hz to 20 kHz, 0.06% THD, 8 ohms ) or 105 Watts of dynamic power at 6 ohms. If ever kasi na makumpleto setup ko, I'll setup a dedicated ht at the spare bedroom with a room volume of 1,600+ cubic feet and the mimimum amplification of an 86dB speaker on this size is 76 Watts na plus around 20-30% headroom that would be uhm... ::) 100W or more. Since taghirap ako, it would be much practical for me to buy speakers with at least 88dB Efficiency and also the power of the 440 is more than enough to play this at maximum listening level before clipping and distortion.

I think I'll shy away from wharfe's muna, anyway thanks guys for the inputs. :) BTW, are there owners here of Wharfe's Zaldek series?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Aug 12, 2004 at 05:58 PM
vircor,

What do you plan to purchase? How big would be the room? The 440 can handle this... no problem. I suggest you give it a audition and hear for yourself.  Don't bother getting the Zaldek... if you like lots of bass i think you'll like it. Oh did i mention lots of bass?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 13, 2004 at 08:16 AM
Sir HANS,KIMPAO and AKYAT,sorry to butt in pro i think we live in the same area.been reading your posts eversince pro hiya lang ako singit since im quite new sa forums until kita ko pc(pioneer center?) and nipa(nipahut?pasig)na malapit where i live.Sana if im not impossing too much baka i can join any one of your sessions,hilig din ako sa gulaman lalo na pag may SAGO,hehehe. ;D have a nice day guys.

Sure bro next week ulit..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ricky on Aug 13, 2004 at 11:03 AM
Sir hans and punk,ok po ill try my best to come and wil surely bring my baon ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Aug 13, 2004 at 11:39 AM
ricky,

pre, meron tayong session sa house ni doc mel aka. nirvblark this coming sat.
baka you can join us.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Aug 13, 2004 at 12:50 PM
yes, start infecting yourslef with SARS sir, marami rami din tayo nyan. hehehe

fish...........

but more than anything elsa youll learn a lot form the sessions sir, i know i did, and blieve me, youll be most wlcome there. see you in one of this session sir ricky.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Aug 13, 2004 at 12:57 PM
tama ka wanderlust, part of learning is SARS infection. para malaman mo kung ano bagay sa audio system mo di ba sir  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 13, 2004 at 01:18 PM
Ricky,

Join us sa mga session.. its more than Audio pre.. :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Aug 13, 2004 at 01:22 PM
Ricky,

Join us sa mga session.. its more than Audio pre.. :D

and its more of craving for those gears playing during the session  ;D >:D

ricky,

di ka namin tinatakot ha  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Aug 13, 2004 at 01:53 PM
Ricky,

Join us sa mga session.. its more than Audio pre.. :D

hehehehe pati sa gulaman dami na rin nahawa  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Aug 13, 2004 at 02:05 PM
Ricky,

Join us sa mga session.. its more than Audio pre.. :D


".. its more than Audio pre.." its SARS!!!!!............... Mwehehehehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ricky on Aug 13, 2004 at 02:07 PM
Sirs,parang hindi ko po kaya yatang mag ka SARS at this time  ;D hehehe,lapit na second sem kaya start saving money na pang tuition. :-[ huhuhu. sir try ko po attend sa saturday although mukhang malabo since weekend is for the kids,anyways san po ba venue and what time start?just in case makapuslit ako  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Aug 13, 2004 at 02:12 PM
Sirs,parang hindi ko po kaya yatang mag ka SARS at this time  ;D hehehe,lapit na second sem kaya start saving money na pang tuition. :-[ huhuhu. sir try ko po attend sa saturday although mukhang malabo since weekend is for the kids,anyways san po ba venue and what time start?just in case makapuslit ako  ;D

check this thread:

http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=21816.300

PM alanranch, meron din session this sat.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ricky on Aug 13, 2004 at 02:20 PM
Sir punk kid 8am pala start so definitly i cant come,may work ako pag saturday  :-[ :-[ :-[ although matagal ko na gusto magprotesta na sana wala na lang. ;D Take care guys and have fun,easy on the gulaman ha >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Aug 13, 2004 at 02:30 PM
Kayo talaga, tinatakot nyo yun tao eh.

Sir, SARS is a very wonderful sickness inflicted by our fellow members here. It is painless and the only way you'll know it is when your wallet is empty, then you know you have SARS.

Excempted si Don ST Kimpao sa wallet sickness... laging paldo yan si sir! Fishy fishy!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Aug 13, 2004 at 02:33 PM
Excempted si Don ST Kimpao sa wallet sickness... laging paldo yan si sir! Fishy fishy!  ;D

Ala nga ngayon, eh! Austerity mode tayo ngayon, panay cds lang Ahehehehehehe!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Aug 13, 2004 at 03:56 PM
hu............. maniwala ako. my niluluto k lang sir ngayon kaya good boy muna dating. tsaka 1 wk p lng mkII mo e kaya at peace ka pa. mwehehehe.

cge rick punta kaya mo yang SARS n yan......

fish..... ulam ko knina.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 17, 2004 at 08:29 PM
hu............. maniwala ako. my niluluto k lang sir ngayon kaya good boy muna dating. tsaka 1 wk p lng mkII mo e kaya at peace ka pa. mwehehehe.

cge rick punta kaya mo yang SARS n yan......

fish..... ulam ko knina.


Senor Kimpao,

Ikaw pa palagi kang di mapakali..






fish balls...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Aug 17, 2004 at 10:58 PM



Senor Kimpao,

Ikaw pa palagi kang di mapakali..






fish balls...

IDOL!!!!!!!!  :o :o  ;D ;D ;D Ahehehehehe..................










flying fish po tayo kuya...........
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Aug 18, 2004 at 08:47 AM


IDOL!!!!!!!!  :o :o  ;D ;D ;D Ahehehehehe..................


flying fish po tayo kuya...........

nangangamoy na nga yong bagong niluluto ni don st kimpao
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Aug 18, 2004 at 11:35 AM
malapit ko ng matikman yng luto no kim...............   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 18, 2004 at 01:55 PM
Guys,

Any update sa new Diamond 9 series?? :) :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Aug 18, 2004 at 02:06 PM
Guys,

Any update sa new Diamond 9 series?? :) :)

meron na ba dito sa pinas nyan pre? no plans for ugrade ha  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 18, 2004 at 02:11 PM
punk_kid,

Si jetok nakita na yun new Diamond 9 series according to him the 9 sports a new enclosure same as pacific Evo ata.. :) :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Aug 18, 2004 at 02:22 PM
ano kaya ang bagong features ng diamond 9 series? mas pogi lang siguro sa Evo series ahehehe



fishbone po!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Aug 18, 2004 at 03:44 PM
tried surfing the net for the diamond 9 yet i couldnt find any, even at the wharfedale site, how could it be?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 18, 2004 at 08:39 PM
wanderlust,

Ako just saw the pictures at What hifi magazine.. kya nalaman ko while jetok when he went to singapore saw the diamond 9 displayed at a audio shop.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Aug 19, 2004 at 04:12 PM
wanderlust,

Ako just saw the pictures at What hifi magazine.. kya nalaman ko while jetok when he went to singapore saw the diamond 9 displayed at a audio shop.

but why is it not posted in the official websiteof wharfedale sir? kinda strange as manufactures have the habit of parading any new product their company has realeased or even those that they are about to release thought not yet in the market.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sillyputty on Aug 23, 2004 at 11:16 PM
nabasa ko din sa magazine pero di ko tanda kung anong magazine ???
same enclosure as evo, kevlar pa din pero itim di tulad ng sa 8series na dilaw
di ko lang matandaan kung silk dome pa din ang tweeter....
next month daw irereview...
pag nakita ko uli yung magazine iupdate ko kayo hehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 24, 2004 at 08:57 AM
nabasa ko din sa magazine pero di ko tanda kung anong magazine ???
same enclosure as evo, kevlar pa din pero itim di tulad ng sa 8series na dilaw
di ko lang matandaan kung silk dome pa din ang tweeter....
next month daw irereview...
pag nakita ko uli yung magazine iupdate ko kayo hehehe

Yes sir the Diamond 9 series sports a black kevlar cones and same silk dome tweeter.. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Aug 24, 2004 at 09:18 AM
Uy! mas mascular pala ang dating ng diamond 9 series  ;D ;D ;D

makulayan nga ng black yung kevlar cone ng 8.3 ko  :P
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 24, 2004 at 10:11 AM
Kid,

oOnga eh type ko din yun black compare to yellow ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Aug 24, 2004 at 10:23 AM
tried surfing the net for the diamond 9 yet i couldnt find any, even at the wharfedale site, how could it be?


bka niluluto pa?


fish balls!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Aug 24, 2004 at 04:46 PM
hmmmm baka nga sir jo, pinapaganda pa bago ipost.... commercialism!!!

basta ako type ko yng yellow mga fafa, malayo pa lang kita mo na. attitude!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: vircor on Aug 25, 2004 at 03:57 PM
Makikisingit lang po sa kwentuhan... :)

Two & half way system: 2.5 way systems employs 2 bass/mid-bass drivers usually identical in design and size and a tweeter. Usually the bottom woofer is crossed over to produce bass frequencies below 200Hz and the top woofer is crossed over to produce midrange frequencies between 200Hz - 4 KHz. The interesting thing about this design is that although the two woofers are crossed over at different frequencies, they acoustically couple to constructively interfere and enhance overall system bass response.

(http://www.monitoraudio.com/img/bronze/b4.gif)
Monitor Audio Bronze Series B4

2-way or 3-way in a speaker system doesn't necessarily refers to the number of drivers of the loudspeaker but instead it refers to how the drivers are CROSSED-OVER to produce the desired frequency ranges (low, mid, high) We can always see designs that have 2 woofers for the mid & 1 tweeter for the high in a 2-way loudspeaker whether bookshelf or towers, also there are 3-way designs composed of multiple drivers (1 tweeter, 1-2 woofer for mid, 1 or more woofer for the low frequencies).

(http://www.monitoraudio.com/img/gold/gold60_2.gif)
Monitor Audio Gold Reference GR60 3-way 4-speaker tower

(http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/products/ht/img/ns4hx.gif)
Yamaha NS-4HX 2-way 3-speaker bookshelf

(http://www.polkaudio.com/images/home/small/rti12.jpg)
Polk Audio RTi12 3-Way 6-speaker tower




Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Aug 25, 2004 at 05:09 PM
Diamond 9.1
(http://www.dynamik-akustik.de/wharfedale/d-9-1.jpg)

Diamond 9.2
(http://www.dynamik-akustik.de/wharfedale/d-9-2.jpg)

Diamond 9.3
(http://www.dynamik-akustik.de/wharfedale/d-9-3.jpg)

Diamond 9.4
(http://www.dynamik-akustik.de/wharfedale/index.23.jpg)

Diamond 9.5
(http://www.dynamik-akustik.de/wharfedale/index.2.gif)

Diamond 9.6
(http://www.dynamik-akustik.de/wharfedale/d-9-4-6.jpg)

Diamond 9.CS
(http://www.dynamik-akustik.de/wharfedale/d-9-cs.jpg)

Diamond 9.CM
(http://www.dynamik-akustik.de/wharfedale/d-9-cm.jpg)

Diamond 9.SR
(http://www.dynamik-akustik.de/wharfedale/9-sr.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 25, 2004 at 08:12 PM
slayer,

Senor ST slayer notice the woofer have some plup.. type ko 9.3.. >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Aug 25, 2004 at 09:48 PM
slayer,

Senor ST slayer notice the woofer have some plup.. type ko 9.3.. >:D >:D

pangalawa ako ;D ;D ;D magkano kaya ????
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 25, 2004 at 09:59 PM
J_albert,

Sana meron para ma audition and hope reasonable ang price.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Aug 25, 2004 at 10:01 PM
J_albert,

Sana meron para ma audition and hope reasonable and price.. ;D

oo nga e nahahanap pa naman ako nang pang music lang sana para diamond 8 lang ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 27, 2004 at 01:19 PM
J_albert,

Try mo surplus speaker kung super buget conscious ka.. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Sep 01, 2004 at 01:32 PM
i concur.... surplus speakers sir, try nyo.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 01, 2004 at 08:41 PM
Guys,

Diamond 9 series for launch October 2004

"A bar-raising effort from Wharfedale: these are ridiculously good speakers at this budget price level" - What Hi-Fi? October 2004

"The bass has detail and definition, and it's delivered in a controlled and cohesive manner." (SW-150) - What Hi-Fi? October 2004

Diamond 9 offers new standards in performance for Home Cinema and Hi-Fi musical reproduction, the result of over seventy years continuous experience at the cutting edge of loudspeaker design.

Although Diamond has for two decades been the audiophile’s favourite compact loudspeaker range, the new Diamond 9 series introduces a level of performance until now only available from high-end loudspeakers.

A wealth of experience, the application of advanced technologies and specially developed materials have been crafted into a range that is as versatile as it is competent.

A wide range of product options allows a system to be tailored to your exact requirements with complete tonal matching and the same articulate delivery from each model.

http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/tech.htm

Hope Affordable din like 8 series.. :) :)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Sep 02, 2004 at 09:28 AM
Naku!!! mapaphase-out na yung diamond 8 ko, di pa nga break-in waaaahhhhhh...  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Sep 02, 2004 at 09:39 AM
Sana nga as affordable as the 8 series... para maipost ko na 'tong 8 series ko! Ahehehehe...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Sep 02, 2004 at 09:47 AM
i think the price range of these diamond 9 series is around 10k-15k pero mas ok kung below 10k para affordable.

sana pwedeng trade-in sa mga diamond 8 owners as promo nila  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Chito C. on Sep 02, 2004 at 10:23 AM
tanong lang po. I'm buying a warf wh2 (surround and center) from iceman to pair it with my yamaha 440. Ok ba to? What front speakers will I buy? Just got a quote  from listening in style 8.4 ata yun at P8.5K. Budget is 10K below. Planning on buying a sub once I get my 13th month pay.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Sep 02, 2004 at 11:07 AM
chito c,

i suggest you pair it with diamond 8 series speakers. you can choose from 8.1, 8.3 and 8.4. as for the sub, there are a lot of brands out there or customize sub of jojoD and anthony.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Sep 02, 2004 at 11:13 AM
May naka test na ba sa series 9? Mukhang ang ganda ng construction eh. Yun pics sa post ni slayer ang gaganda!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Sep 02, 2004 at 11:22 AM
di na ko mageevo nito...diamond 9 na lang hehe....audition muna syempre ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Sep 02, 2004 at 11:41 AM
ala evo series design at a lower price  ;D ;D ;D

pag may dumating na stock nito sigurado ko magkakagulo ang mga members dito papunta sa AV shop to audition and take a glimpse of these diamond 9 series  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Sep 02, 2004 at 11:45 AM
Wonder how the bookshelves will fare with the quad bookshelves arriving? yan dami nang choices ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Sep 02, 2004 at 11:56 AM
naku!!! nakakalito nga yan bro daming choices  ;D ;D daming speaker nito sa buy n sell section pag nagkataon  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Sep 02, 2004 at 03:45 PM
at ang gaganda pa ng designs lahat!

kailan kaya pwdeng ma audition mga yan?

palitan na natin ang title ng thread to Diamond 9.

hehehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 02, 2004 at 04:14 PM
Guys,

Notice the new Diamond 9 series come the same box contruction as the Pacific Evo series.. Naku baka same sound sila?? tapos affordable pa hay... ;D ;D the box usually greatly influence the sound  ;D ;D ;D

Kasi notice with  Evo series new box design the bass is tight, no overhang and trancient response in fast music is very good accurate ika nga.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Sep 02, 2004 at 04:22 PM
ganda ng 9.6..mas mura pa ata sa evo30 hehehe jk jk jk FISH!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Sep 02, 2004 at 04:38 PM
kung nagkataon my magsisisi nyan. parehong pareho design, tunog, at mas bago at mura pa.........

hayyy, pano na lang yan, e mukhang mas pogi pa ang nwebe kaysa evo...

hehehe.

fish...... in me.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 02, 2004 at 05:13 PM
kung nagkataon my magsisisi nyan. parehong pareho design, tunog, at mas bago at mura pa.........

hayyy, pano na lang yan, e mukhang mas pogi pa ang nwebe kaysa evo...

hehehe.

fish...... in me.

Hope not... kasi pag release ng Diamond 9 eh broken in na Evo 30 ko so mas maganda talaga hehehehe

ganda ng 9.6..mas mura pa ata sa evo30 hehehe jk jk jk FISH!

PRe oo nga mas pogi jaform ng 9.6 meron pa separate midrange woofer... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Sep 02, 2004 at 05:17 PM
hans,

pa reserve na ba tayo ng 9.4 at 9.6 pag dumating na  ;D si slayer may balak na  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 02, 2004 at 05:20 PM
punk_kid,

Plan ko yun center and 9.1 para HT setup hehehe for front pwede na Evo 30.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Sep 02, 2004 at 05:32 PM
hans,

nice plan yan pre eventually pag sawa na sa music pwedeng mag HT muna  ;D group audition tayo nyan pag dumating na >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 02, 2004 at 06:19 PM
punk_kid,

Ok tamang tama bka end of October to early November release sa Pinas eh meron na christmas bonus..  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Sep 02, 2004 at 06:24 PM
punk_kid,

Ok tamang tama bka end of October to early November release sa Pinas eh meron na christmas bonus..  ;D ;D

Tamang-tama talaga! Sir wag mo kakalimutan yun christmas bonus ko ha!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Sep 02, 2004 at 06:30 PM
Tumpak! swak na naman mga bonus natin nito  ;D sana may midnight sale din ang mga AV shops pag dating ng bonus mwehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Sep 02, 2004 at 06:43 PM
Interesado ako sa 9.6, by that time me budget na ko para sa hafler at ito ipapares ko...sana match hehe >:D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Sep 02, 2004 at 06:48 PM
siguradong match yan, kayang kaya pang ibalibag yang 9.6  ;D



fishy fish...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Sep 02, 2004 at 06:52 PM
sana hehe...mukhang maganda yung specs ng 9.6.."budget" full range na pwedeng pambalibag...sana ok din sa mellow ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Sep 02, 2004 at 06:58 PM
we will see after it arrives here and let our ears decide (sabay sabay tayo mag-audition)  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 02, 2004 at 08:53 PM
John and PUnk,

Palibagan pala.. pre meron mas cheap..  ;D ;D teka sa kabila na thread ng 9 series..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Sep 03, 2004 at 03:47 PM
maku wag na akyong umusa sa bonus nyo..... sabi ni gloria lahat ng bonuses ibibigay sa govt daw para tulong nyo sa bayan..... special mention pa yong mga my plano ng pagkakagastosan for hobby only....

pambayad nya daw sa pamasahe ng mga katulong na sumama at nagbantay sa mga apo nya during her trip to china!!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: backdraft on Sep 13, 2004 at 04:03 AM
mga sirs, tanong ko lang kung kayang i-drive ng sakura amps itong diamond 8's. OK kaya itong setup na to;


im planning to use the 8.4/DFS/and the center with the Sakura 387 amp(not enough moolah on a decent amp! :'( ), anyone of you guys tried this combo.

and anong mas magandang gawing rear yung DFS or yung 8.1.

tnx!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Sep 13, 2004 at 09:19 AM
i suggest you use at least a yamaha avr to drive those wharfs speakers of your choice. as for the rear speaker, try to hook them first and decide which do you prefer is the better sounding rear speaker.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: zakkaz on Sep 13, 2004 at 10:53 AM
mga sirs, tanong ko lang kung kayang i-drive ng sakura amps itong diamond 8's. OK kaya itong setup na to;


im planning to use the 8.4/DFS/and the center with the Sakura 387 amp(not enough moolah on a decent amp! :'( ), anyone of you guys tried this combo.

and anong mas magandang gawing rear yung DFS or yung 8.1.

tnx!  ;D
i suggest you use branded amp to be able to enhance the quality of the speakers
try yamaha amp (more into video) denon (audio) harman kardon (both)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 13, 2004 at 11:51 AM
mga sirs, tanong ko lang kung kayang i-drive ng sakura amps itong diamond 8's. OK kaya itong setup na to;


im planning to use the 8.4/DFS/and the center with the Sakura 387 amp(not enough moolah on a decent amp! :'( ), anyone of you guys tried this combo.

and anong mas magandang gawing rear yung DFS or yung 8.1.

tnx!  ;D

Kaya sa kaya pero better audition them together to get an idea of the sound it will produce..  :) :)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Sep 13, 2004 at 11:57 AM
Dapat talaga, test and listen muna before buying lalu na pag budgeted ang funds.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: aHobbit on Sep 13, 2004 at 01:17 PM
Dapat talaga, test and listen muna before buying lalu na pag budgeted ang funds.  ;)

and bring your favorite CDs and check whether your music has been recreated by the tandem (amp/speaker) according to your taste / preference / expectations. If it is the bass slam or if it is the midrange magic or is it the high frequency air and details - and is it loud enough to destroy your ear and yet has no perceived distortions not to your liking.

Tell you, if you did this - you will retain your amp and speakers for many years.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: qguy on Sep 13, 2004 at 07:54 PM
Will the 8.4 work well for HT even w/o a sub ?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LETOR on Sep 13, 2004 at 08:19 PM
You need to have a powered sub if you are into HT because bass frequency is specially recorded and routed to the sub-out of the AV receiver on a Dolby Digital 5.1  or DTS 5.1 playback mode. Yes the 8.4 can reproduce the bass but the intensity is much different compared to dedicated bass channel during the surround mode. The 8.4 can reproduce respectable bass if you listen to stereo mode or for ordinary music listening without the subwoofer. But in HT theater application, powered sub is a must.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: backdraft on Sep 13, 2004 at 09:49 PM
thanks for ur inputs, bros
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Sep 15, 2004 at 12:52 PM
just my cent bro....

i once had an 8.4 as main speakers............  to heavy on the bass things get to bommy and tiring........ why not use an 8.3 instead....... well rounded pa foe HT and audio....

btw, are you sure the sakura could decode dts or at dolby 5.1 sound? baka AC3 lng yan?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LETOR on Sep 15, 2004 at 07:47 PM
If the 8.4 sounds boomy you may try reducing bass control level or switch-off the loudness control if any or set bass control level to flat position. In that way you'll reduce bass signal and eventually reduce boominess and improve midrange response.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: chatstix on Sep 16, 2004 at 07:28 AM
yup, i agree. that's what those knobs or what-have-u-buttons to regulate bass & treble levels are for. but then again, some people just hate or find it tiring to adjust those.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: backdraft on Sep 16, 2004 at 11:15 AM
just my cent bro....

i once had an 8.4 as main speakers............  to heavy on the bass things get to bommy and tiring........ why not use an 8.3 instead....... well rounded pa foe HT and audio....

btw, are you sure the sakura could decode dts or at dolby 5.1 sound? baka AC3 lng yan?

im planning to use a Nextbase DVD player with onboard DD and DTS decoders? hehehe  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Sep 17, 2004 at 01:11 PM
letor,
chatstix,

been there done that.........  still it persists, now the 8.4 is long gone.

and isnt it an over kill to use a bass heavy designed speakers togehter with a sub? even for HT.....  maybe a tweak is in order but then again why not just get an 8.3, less hassle, much lesser price and there was no improvement to the mid range btw.  i also did try to reduce the bass to the extent of going down up to -0.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Sep 17, 2004 at 01:12 PM
backdraft,

i see.... well in that case let now," let your ears decide...."

good luck.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 17, 2004 at 03:40 PM
Guys,

Would rather check the quality of mids and highs of the speaker than the bass you can always add a sub if you like bass tsaka for HT sub is a must also help lessen the load of your Amp.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Sep 17, 2004 at 04:04 PM
Guys,

Would rather check the quality of mids and highs of the speaker than the bass you can always add a sub if you like bass tsaka for HT sub is a must also help lessen the load of your Amp.

amen galing talaga idol ;D ;D ;D ;D kaya nga legend na dito
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Sep 17, 2004 at 04:19 PM
ayan na, legend na ang nagsabi nyan ha.... hehehehe. idol ko rin to oy!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Sep 17, 2004 at 04:22 PM


amen galing talaga idol ;D ;D ;D ;D kaya nga legend na dito

Buhay Pa! Alamat Na!!!! Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

kuya fish tayooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!...................
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 17, 2004 at 04:28 PM
J-albert, wanderlust, & kimpao,

Mga bossing ako naman nakita nyo ha... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Sep 20, 2004 at 04:05 PM
hehehehe.....

d naman sir, humahanga lang. ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: allvin_98 on Sep 23, 2004 at 12:18 PM
Mga sir tanong ko lang po, ano sa tatlong ampli HK/NAD/YAMAHA ang babagay sa 8.4 speakers para sa  50% music, 50% movie. thanks

Allvin_98

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: chatstix on Sep 23, 2004 at 12:26 PM
i'm using hk avr230 with diamonds 8.4 as fronts (8.2 rears, and diamond.center as center). so far i'm quite impressed sa performance and sound nya. I used onkyo tx-sr502 before.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jacorb88 on Sep 23, 2004 at 01:53 PM
how's the wharfedale 8.3 center speaker? Wharf diamond 12" sub as compared to USAudio 512MK2/DQ12/DTX4.12?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: zakkaz on Sep 24, 2004 at 10:45 AM
Mga sir tanong ko lang po, ano sa tatlong ampli HK/NAD/YAMAHA ang babagay sa 8.4 speakers para sa  50% music, 50% movie. thanks

Allvin_98


HK will be better than the two wharf speakers are hard driven so u need a high current amp to drive it
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: zakkaz on Sep 24, 2004 at 10:51 AM
how's the wharfedale 8.3 center speaker? Wharf diamond 12" sub as compared to USAudio 512MK2/DQ12/DTX4.12?
8C speaker definitely will be paired for 8.3
for the sub i'l suggest go for polk audio or if have a little bit more budget go for definitive sub
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jacorb88 on Sep 24, 2004 at 11:10 AM
due to budget constraints, i can go initially for either 8.3 fronts and DTX4.12/USAudio512 or 8.3 fronts and center. If you're suggesting a better sub than DTX4.12/USAudio512 then the sub has to wait until enough funds are raised and go for 8.3 fronts and center for the time being. do you think i'll appreciate my ht without the dedicated sub and let the fronts do the job (ofcourse to some extent).

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: john5479 on Sep 24, 2004 at 11:35 AM
just cope with it for now and just save more so you can get a better sub, para hindi papalit palit :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Sep 24, 2004 at 11:51 AM
Stick with the 8.3 and 8c for your HT setup. the sub can wait. using 8.3 as front is good enough although in the low freq section, medyo bitin nga lang.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 24, 2004 at 01:12 PM
due to budget constraints, i can go initially for either 8.3 fronts and DTX4.12/USAudio512 or 8.3 fronts and center. If you're suggesting a better sub than DTX4.12/USAudio512 then the sub has to wait until enough funds are raised and go for 8.3 fronts and center for the time being. do you think i'll appreciate my ht without the dedicated sub and let the fronts do the job (ofcourse to some extent).



Pre go for the 8.3 and sub combo.. meron naman DSP for 2 speaker lang yan AVR mo tapos add na lang center pag may budget na... DTX and usaudio are both good brand any of the two ok na..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: allvin_98 on Sep 24, 2004 at 02:32 PM

HK will be better than the two wharf speakers are hard driven so u need a high current amp to drive it

Ah ok. but  how about the performance when it comes to music and movies? ok ba cya?much better ba un HK kesa sa NAD and YAMAHA?

thanks

allvin_98
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Sep 24, 2004 at 03:17 PM
HK and NAD are both high current receivers but some prefer HK over NAD and vice versa. so it depends on your preference, audition them first and compare which one like.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: zakkaz on Sep 25, 2004 at 11:14 AM


Ah ok. but  how about the performance when it comes to music and movies? ok ba cya?much better ba un HK kesa sa NAD and YAMAHA?

thanks

allvin_98
when it comes to music for the yamaha it sounds terrible but wen into movies definitely good
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: spectraav on Sep 25, 2004 at 11:21 AM
if ur in makati area try to drop by Spectra @ parksquare 1 so that you'll be able to compare it
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: allvin_98 on Sep 25, 2004 at 01:20 PM
ok. subukan ko punta sa spectra to audition.thanks guys.

allvin_98
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jacorb88 on Sep 28, 2004 at 01:13 PM
comparison of wharf 8.3 and 8.4...is the price difference justificable for the improvements made?
thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 28, 2004 at 03:03 PM
comparison of wharf 8.3 and 8.4...is the price difference justificable for the improvements made?
thanks.

Bro it depend on you preference in music and how big is your room.. but the 8.3 is more than enough if bass is your concern pero i suggest get a sub for LFE specially for HT a sub is a must.. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: juneaki on Oct 01, 2004 at 08:37 AM
Guys, this might be out of topic kasi this thread is about Diamond 8s but still i posted. Meron bang authorized repair shop ng mga wharfedale speakers? Meron kasi akong wharfedale modus 3 na medyo busted na yung cone ng mid/woofer at gusto kong ipa-repair o palitan, could you help me with this.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ADM202E on Oct 01, 2004 at 10:59 AM
Guys sorry for OT, ask ko lang mga magkano ba pwede ibenta ang WH2 complete set? slightly used pa lang ito ang complete with box and all stuff. Tnx.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Oct 01, 2004 at 11:32 AM
Quote from: ADM202E
Guys sorry for OT, ask ko lang mga magkano ba pwede ibenta ang WH2 complete set? slightly used pa lang ito ang complete with box and all stuff. Tnx.

Bro, check out the buy n sell section to get an idea of their selling price.  I think they sell it around 3k to 4k.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ADM202E on Oct 01, 2004 at 11:36 AM


Bro, check out the buy n sell section to get an idea of their selling price.  I think they sell it around 3k to 4k.



Thanks bro, im plannig to get an 8.4 with 8c kasi, or kung makabenta ng stocks B4 sana hopefully. Sayang naman kasi kung di mapapakinabangan ang WH2.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Oct 01, 2004 at 11:53 AM
ADM202E,

dapat idispose natin yung di nagagamit para sa mga fellow members na gustong magkaroon ng bagong lumang gears ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 01, 2004 at 12:31 PM
Guys, this might be out of topic kasi this thread is about Diamond 8s but still i posted. Meron bang authorized repair shop ng mga wharfedale speakers? Meron kasi akong wharfedale modus 3 na medyo busted na yung cone ng mid/woofer at gusto kong ipa-repair o palitan, could you help me with this.

Thanks in advance.

Distributor ng Wharfedale, Pioneer, & Dynaquest sub

MICRO ACOUSTICS IND INC
MR HERBERT CO
+63-2-8526706
+63-2-8520029
[email protected]
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: juneaki on Oct 01, 2004 at 01:33 PM


Distributor ng Wharfedale, Pioneer, & Dynaquest sub

MICRO ACOUSTICS IND INC
MR HERBERT CO
+63-2-8526706
+63-2-8520029
[email protected]

Hans, tenks sa info. I just sent e-mail to Micro Acoustics c/o Mr. Co.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Oct 05, 2004 at 01:03 PM
Mga bossing...ano po ba ang mas magandang i-pair na wharfdale front speaker sa Yamaha 650? 8.3 or 8.4? Thanks po....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Oct 05, 2004 at 02:21 PM
Bring your Yamaha 650 when auditioning and compare both speakers. For me, i like the sound of 8.3. you need to have a large room to appreciate the capability of 8.4.

just my 5 centimo
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Chito C. on Oct 05, 2004 at 02:29 PM
Mga sirs,

Pag dumating yung sars late this year o early next year (c/o warfs 9) ako una sa listahan nyo pagbenta ng 8.3.

Salamat.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Oct 05, 2004 at 03:27 PM
Ahahahaha ................. abangan na lang sa buy n sell thread

 >:D ;D >:D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Oct 05, 2004 at 07:58 PM
Bring your Yamaha 650 when auditioning and compare both speakers. For me, i like the sound of 8.3. you need to have a large room to appreciate the capability of 8.4.

just my 5 centimo

Thanks sir punk....based on what you have just said I guess I just need 8.3 coz my area is not that large...  8)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Oct 05, 2004 at 08:02 PM
Mga sirs,

Pag dumating yung sars late this year o early next year (c/o warfs 9) ako una sa listahan nyo pagbenta ng 8.3.

Salamat.

Wow...Sir pwede pa reserve na? hehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 05, 2004 at 09:01 PM
Control and Chito,

Mukhang better option yan since yun preowned units are pwedeng broken in na so what you hear is what you get na.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: markygail on Oct 05, 2004 at 10:02 PM
Guys, just bought the WH2 center and rears yesterday. ilang hrs of use ba bago siya ma break in? anong setting ng volume? and may nabibili bang cd na pang speed up ng break in?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Oct 06, 2004 at 06:24 AM
Control and Chito,

Mukhang better option yan since yun preowned units are pwedeng broken in na so what you hear is what you get na.. ;D ;D

 :'( :'(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 06, 2004 at 07:18 AM
Guys, just bought the WH2 center and rears yesterday. ilang hrs of use ba bago siya ma break in? anong setting ng volume? and may nabibili bang cd na pang speed up ng break in?

100 hours and just used it pwede na at moderate volume lang..

Congrats!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 06, 2004 at 07:20 AM


 :'( :'(

What i mean is run in na not broken or damage.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Oct 06, 2004 at 07:25 AM


What i mean is run in na not broken or damage.. ;D ;D

Ah..hehehe...but if the price gap is close maybe i'll just consider buying a new one..  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Oct 06, 2004 at 09:19 AM
Quote from: Control
Ah..hehehe...but if the price gap is close maybe i'll just consider buying a new one..

The problem with new ones is the 4 year break-in period ;D ;D ;D with pre-owned ones you'll be amazed of its sound which you will not find in a freshly opened new one ;D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Chito C. on Oct 06, 2004 at 10:00 AM
una ako sa pila mga sirs. reserve na 13th month ko para sa inyo.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Oct 06, 2004 at 10:17 AM


The problem with new ones is the 4 year break-in period ;D ;D ;D with pre-owned ones you'll be amazed of its sound which you will not find in a freshly opened new one ;D >:D

Ok lang ito kung hindi ka uutakan ng mabibilhan mo.....kasi baka mamaya ang ibigay sa iyo eh yung broken na...wawa...  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: markygail on Oct 06, 2004 at 10:20 AM


100 hours and just used it pwede na at moderate volume lang..

Congrats!!

wow. ang daming hours nun ah. hehe. mga 2hrs a day lang ako nakakapag music or nood ng movies. so kung ganun mga 2 months to 3 months. ang tagal pala. hehe. ano ba mas magandang pang break in? r & b or movies? pero alam niyo guys grabe pala yung DTS. naka dd 5.1 kasi ako tapos switch bigla sa DTS, ang lakas ng volume at mas crisp and detailed yung sound. pati separation. tinesting ko sa kill bill vol 1 ko then naka DTS. yung first scene na duguan si "the bride" tapos kinakausap siya ni bill, then suddenly.....BANG!!!!! grabe.  :o :o nagulat kaming lahat sa lakas ng bass at sound.  :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Oct 06, 2004 at 10:44 AM
Chito C,

sa tagal ko na rin bumibili ng mga pre-owned dito sa pdvd eh di pa naman ko nakaka-encounter ng sirang unit tsaka you will audition it naman before buying it unless kung masyado ka na atat sa unit na gusto mong bilhin ;D

Markygail,

you can break-in your speakers by listeining to an FM station at a tolerable volume for many hours. yun isa nga dyan 3 days iniwan yung system naka ON ;D ;D ;D pero gumanda naman daw yung tunog ng speaker nya afterwards
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 06, 2004 at 11:07 AM
J-albert, wanderlust, & kimpao,

Mga bossing ako naman nakita nyo ha... ;D ;D

Eh Idol ka namin eh! Woohhhh! IDOL!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Chito C. on Oct 06, 2004 at 11:45 AM
Chito C,

sa tagal ko na rin bumibili ng mga pre-owned dito sa pdvd eh di pa naman ko nakaka-encounter ng sirang unit tsaka you will audition it naman before buying it unless kung masyado ka na atat sa unit na gusto mong bilhin ;D


Bought iceman's wharf whc2 center and surrounds a month or 2 ago. Currently enjoying it tapos wharf 8.3 kunin ko sa inyo para kumpleto ko.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Oct 06, 2004 at 12:08 PM
nice setup nya bro wharfedale all the way ;)

eto pa mas magandang speaker setup:

Diamond 8.3 - front
Diamond 8.1 - rear
Diamond C - center

 >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Oct 06, 2004 at 12:30 PM
nice setup nya bro wharfedale all the way ;)

eto pa mas magandang speaker setup:

Diamond 8.3 - front
Diamond 8.1 - rear
Diamond C - center

 >:D >:D >:D

Sir punk....how about the subs? Diamond subs din ba? Nakalimutan mo kasing ilagay dun sa taas kung anong subs..  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 06, 2004 at 12:34 PM
kahit dq-12 lang sir ok na for the sub, but if ever you have the budget got with either polk or ms subs......

hmmmm funny i never have auditioned a wharf sub before......
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Oct 06, 2004 at 12:42 PM
kahit dq-12 lang sir ok na for the sub, but if ever you have the budget got with either polk or ms subs......

hmmmm funny i never have auditioned a wharf sub before......

Sir wanderlust, mga magkano kaya ang aabutin ng ms subs ngayon? Kasi as I have read dito sa mga thread dq12 is @ 6-10k at medyo mahirap maghanap..  ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Oct 06, 2004 at 12:43 PM
it depends on your preference but the above-mentioned subs can do the job. If you're more into auido, you can consider smaller woofer subs say an 8" will do. The general rule is audition it first.

Good Luck!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Oct 06, 2004 at 12:46 PM


Sir wanderlust, mga magkano kaya ang aabutin ng ms subs ngayon? Kasi as I have read dito sa mga thread dq12 is @ 6-10k at medyo mahirap maghanap.. ???

you can also try US Auido sub around 6k din
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Oct 06, 2004 at 12:50 PM


you can also try US Auido sub around 6k din

Ok Sir punk....salamat ng marami now all I have to do is wait,  tagal kasi ng October 30 (para makuha ko na yung loan ko na pambili ng A/V & speakers) ...... haaaaayyyyyyyy   :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Oct 06, 2004 at 12:56 PM


Ok Sir punk....salamat ng marami now all I have to do is wait, tagal kasi ng October 30 (para makuha ko na yung loan ko na pambili ng A/V & speakers) ...... haaaaayyyyyyyy :'( :'( :'(

konting tiis lang bro mawawaldas mo rin yan  ;D ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 06, 2004 at 12:57 PM
try looking at the buy n sell section sir, a preowned ms sub cost around 8k up.

good luck sir, pro once nakuha wag nagmadali.... use your time now to audition para pag my pera na bili bili na.......
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Oct 06, 2004 at 01:04 PM
kapag pumayag yung seller, home audition mo to hear the compatibility in your HT setup.

daming tip na yan sir sa susunod may bayad na yan ahehehehe jok lang
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Oct 06, 2004 at 01:09 PM


konting tiis lang bro mawawaldas mo rin yan  ;D ;D



nyahahaha.....kating-kati na kasi ako....sana ngayon lang itong kating to...at mahirap din kung early stages na ng SARS ito...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Oct 06, 2004 at 01:13 PM


nyahahaha.....kating-kati na kasi ako....sana ngayon lang itong kating to...at mahirap din kung early stages na ng SARS ito... ;D

symptoms na yan ng SARS lalo na pag laging naka online dito ;D OT na tayo :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Oct 06, 2004 at 01:16 PM


symptoms na yan ng SARS lalo na pag laging naka online dito ;D OT na tayo :D

waaaa...sige pahinga muna ako...  :-X
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 06, 2004 at 01:21 PM
control,

Oct 30 pa pala.. di audition ng audition pre para pagdating ng fund eh sure ka na sa combo mo.. SUB hmmm suggest get a 10" sub USaudio or DTX ok na..

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Oct 07, 2004 at 11:03 AM
control,

Oct 30 pa pala.. di audition ng audition pre para pagdating ng fund eh sure ka na sa combo mo.. SUB hmmm suggest get a 10" sub USaudio or DTX ok na..



Thanks Sir Hans..actually yung subs na lang ang pinoproblema ko...these are my choices.
1. dq-12
2. 10" USAudio
3. DTX
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Oct 07, 2004 at 12:55 PM
Audition na sir! malapit na ang Oct 30 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 07, 2004 at 01:13 PM


Thanks Sir Hans..actually yung subs na lang ang pinoproblema ko...these are my choices.
1. dq-12
2. 10" USAudio
3. DTX

Sir depend on your room how big? tsaka the 3 brands are tested na to be reliable and best buy.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Oct 07, 2004 at 01:20 PM


Sir depend on your room how big? tsaka the 3 brands are tested na to be reliable and best buy.. ;D

Sir, my room is approximately 4 meters x 6 meters....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 07, 2004 at 01:27 PM
control,

Kaya na 10" dyan..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Oct 07, 2004 at 01:32 PM
control,

Kaya na 10" dyan..

Thank you very much Sir Hans.....grabe...naatat na naman akong bumili kagad.....haaaayyyyy....ang tagal..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: hans_adriane on Oct 07, 2004 at 01:46 PM


Thank you very much Sir Hans.....grabe...naatat na naman akong bumili kagad.....haaaayyyyy....ang tagal..


Your welcome sir..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Nov 04, 2004 at 11:24 AM
Muling itaguyod ang DIAMOND 8... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Nov 04, 2004 at 11:26 AM
Muling itaguyod ang DIAMOND 8... ;D

Sir napaghahalata na tinamaan ka ng SARS, ah. Ahehehehehehe  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Chito C. on Nov 04, 2004 at 11:34 AM
May nagbebenta na ba ng 8.3?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Nov 04, 2004 at 11:35 AM


Sir napaghahalata na tinamaan ka ng SARS, ah. Ahehehehehehe  ;D ;D ;D

Contained pa naman as of now Sir..  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kimpao on Nov 04, 2004 at 11:44 AM


Contained pa naman as of now Sir..  ;D

Gusto mo pawalan natin yan.  >:D  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 04, 2004 at 01:31 PM


Gusto mo pawalan natin yan.  >:D  ;D


Hahahaha! Parang nakikita ko na kayo na sasamahan si Control para malunasan ang kanyang SARS!  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 05, 2004 at 08:50 AM


Contained pa naman as of now Sir..  ;D

Senor Off_CoNtrol,

Si chito naghahanap na ng 8.3... now the chance hehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Nov 05, 2004 at 08:52 AM


Senor Off_CoNtrol,

Si chito naghahanap na ng 8.3... now the chance hehehehe

 ;D Hirap pang pakawalan 8.3 Sir Pasok...bili na lang ako ng bago 9.2 para sa toooooot.....  :-X >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Nov 05, 2004 at 08:58 AM
Aha! may bagong project si Off_Control...... eto forecast ko dyan

9.2.....................GC......................Xlo................... ::) >:D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 05, 2004 at 09:00 AM


 ;D Hirap pang pakawalan 8.3 Sir Pasok...bili na lang ako ng bago 9.2 para sa toooooot.....  :-X >:D

Senor Control,

Sama kami pag bili mo ha.. kay suki tayo.. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 05, 2004 at 09:01 AM
Aha! may bagong project si Off_Control...... eto forecast ko dyan

9.2.....................GC......................Xlo................... ::) >:D ;D

Senor oFF_conTrol,

GC ba?? pssssst meron si Tummy bagong GC project dalawa ang Toot...  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Nov 05, 2004 at 09:02 AM


Senor Control,

Sama kami pag bili mo ha.. kay suki tayo.. ;D ;D ;D

uu naman..sama ko na rin yung stands  ;D ala kasing mag-bitiw ng stands eh..  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Nov 05, 2004 at 09:03 AM
Aba!!! P. Gubat left and right channel ba ang tooot...... parang may tooot na pala yan sa loob ;D ;D ;D

Off_Control,

Tama dun tayo bumili sa suki ni P. Gubat aka KOya ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Nov 05, 2004 at 09:05 AM


Senor oFF_conTrol,

GC ba?? pssssst meron si Tummy bagong GC project dalawa ang Toot...  ;D ;D

 ;D Uunahin ko muna yung speakers Sir... tamang tama sa bigayan ng bonus  >:D Sayang baka may additional x-mas discount....  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Nov 05, 2004 at 09:06 AM
meron akong stand kaso pinag iisipan ko pa kung may ipapatong akong......... tooooot

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Nov 05, 2004 at 09:07 AM
meron akong stand kaso pinag iisipan ko pa kung may ipapatong akong......... tooooot

;D ;D ;D

Score ko na lang Sir..maawa ka na...  :'( >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 05, 2004 at 09:08 AM


 ;D Uunahin ko muna yung speakers Sir... tamang tama sa bigayan ng bonus  >:D Sayang baka may additional x-mas discount....  >:D

Tama pre... ako din wait for the right time... kaso palaging out of time.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Chito C. on Nov 05, 2004 at 09:33 AM
Wait lang ako sa 8.3 nyo pero wait din ako sa mga reviews ng 9's.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Nov 05, 2004 at 11:25 AM
Wait lang ako sa 8.3 nyo pero wait din ako sa mga reviews ng 9's.

Sir Chito, for bookshelf I can recommend the 9.2, as for floorstander 9.4 ...we both have tested it and proved that they are both good for the price..  ;D For fronts nga pala yan ha..  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Chito C. on Nov 05, 2004 at 11:31 AM
Benta nyo na 8.3 nyo.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Nov 05, 2004 at 11:42 AM
Benta nyo na 8.3 nyo.

 ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 05, 2004 at 01:01 PM


Sir Chito, for bookshelf I can recommend the 9.2, as for floorstander 9.4 ...we both have tested it and proved that they are both good for the price..  ;D For fronts nga pala yan ha..  ;D

Why not all around?  If you're into multi-channel hi-res music, they demand identical full rangers even at the back.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 05, 2004 at 03:00 PM


Why not all around?  If you're into multi-channel hi-res music, they demand identical full rangers even at the back.

Actually all rounder sya.. plan ata ni Control eh Diamond 8 sa rear and Diamond 9 for fronts.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 08, 2004 at 05:43 PM
alin sir yong 8.3 nya sa back? din the 9.2 sa fronts? hmmmmmm.......
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Nov 09, 2004 at 07:45 AM


Actually all rounder sya.. plan ata ni Control eh Diamond 8 sa rear and Diamond 9 for fronts.. ;D

Para sa akin Sir medyo overkill na yata kung 8.3 sa back and 9.2 sa fronts.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 10, 2004 at 03:33 PM
o cge patong natin yong 8.3 sa stands pa, para d na overkill. sorround na din ang dating. ahehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Nov 10, 2004 at 03:37 PM
o cge patong natin yong 8.3 sa stands pa, para d na overkill. sorround na din ang dating. ahehehe

Pag ganito ang setup baka kailangan batuhin ka na ng tumatawag sa iyo para lang mapansin mo..lalo na kapag nasa sweet spot ka...  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 19, 2004 at 04:51 PM
sweeetttt............  d ka babatuhin sir kakalabitin lang kasi nakikinood na din yon! hehehehe
Title: Re: Diamond 8 Xmas Promo-Free Center/Surround
Post by: cybermms on Nov 21, 2004 at 09:52 AM
Wharfedale is now offering a special promo for Diamond 8.3 and Diamond 8.4. You can win a free Diamond DFS8 Surround with a Diamond Center or with a Diamond 8.1.

Please go to the Asst. Buy and Sell for HT to get more details.

cyber
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 22, 2004 at 02:29 PM
hmmmmm, ibig bang sabihin nito mas lalong bumaba resale value ng diamond 8?

waaaaahhhh.........


for sale na sakin! bago p man mahuli ang lahat.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 23, 2004 at 11:19 AM

for sale na sakin! bago p man mahuli ang lahat.

Huli na ang lahat ;D

Meron na nga nagsale ng 1-month old Diamond 9 sa Buy and Sell.   ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Nov 23, 2004 at 12:23 PM
parang cellphone na binenta ;D pero yung 8.3 solid pa kami ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Nov 23, 2004 at 12:27 PM
SOLIIIIIIIIIIID!!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Nov 23, 2004 at 01:10 PM
Yep! SOLID and fully broken-in...  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 23, 2004 at 03:53 PM
Uy UY mga Diamond 8 boys and girls nagpapalakas ng loob.. hehehehe



joke joki joke...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jcob on Nov 23, 2004 at 04:02 PM
For HT application..

Solid na solid ako sa Diamond 8.3 ko. No need to upgrade..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Nov 23, 2004 at 04:08 PM
Nakita nyo naman kung gaano ka SOLID mga owners ng 8.3 ;D

 ;D8.3 all the way ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jcob on Nov 23, 2004 at 04:12 PM
Nakita nyo naman kung gaano ka SOLID mga owners ng 8.3 ;D

 ;D8.3 all the way ;D

Actually sir, kasama na rin yung plug-in. Para alam nung mga nag aabang ng Diamond 8 kung sino bibilhan nila. Double purpose ika nga.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 23, 2004 at 04:21 PM
KID_lat,

Galing pa ako sa house ni wanderlust heard his 8.3 hmmm PANALO hybrid setup nya..  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Nov 23, 2004 at 04:37 PM
Sansui at PRErotica ba naman eh..... siguradong PANALO yan!





at si Victor K2 Wood pa pala ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: cybermms on Nov 23, 2004 at 08:32 PM
hmmmmm, ibig bang sabihin nito mas lalong bumaba resale value ng diamond 8?

waaaaahhhh.........


for sale na sakin! bago p man mahuli ang lahat.

Sir wanderlust,

Don't think so. Diamond 8's are still in the 2005 edition of Stereophile's Buyer's guide. I just got approval from the Wharfedale distributor to bundle a couple of DFS 8 surround, 8.1 and center for those who will remain loyal to the 8's. This is their way of thanking the pinoydvd community. This offer is exclusive to members only.

Hang on to your 8.3. It is still a highly rated pair of HT front speakers (or even front/rears for a good DTS set-up).

Pwede ka pang bumili ng 2nd pair for your rear, baka manalo ka ng DFS 8 and Center.

cyber
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: macks75 on Nov 26, 2004 at 04:33 PM
magkano 8.3 na bago ngayon?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 26, 2004 at 05:45 PM
nasa 6.8k ata.... not sure though. sabi lang to ni hans sakin when he was getting my 8.3 (duda nga ako e) hehehehe.  ;D

fish k0yang.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Nov 26, 2004 at 05:51 PM
7k+ na po matagal na.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Nov 28, 2004 at 10:01 AM
nasa 6.8k ata.... not sure though. sabi lang to ni hans sakin when he was getting my 8.3 (duda nga ako e) hehehehe.  ;D

fish k0yang.

heheh....kOya knows best Sir...  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: aHobbit on Nov 30, 2004 at 12:33 PM
I experimented on the x-over of the 8.3 and I posted this in the wharf diamond 9 thread.

In the x-over, 2 resistors (in parallel) are in series with the tweeter, limiting power into the tweeter - making the tweeter kind of soft sounding. Shorting the resistor increased the loudness of my 8.3 tweeter. So you can tweak your 8.3 tweeter doing the asme. If outright shorting of the resistor too loud for your high frequency taste, you can parallel values of resistor to those resistors already in place (2 x 5.5 ohms/5watts).

I already put mine in a shorted position, and for my taste, I will leave it shorted. I replay all my favorite and reference CD and I like the 8.3 even better now in the high frequency audio spectrum.

Bycomputation, Your tweeter has 2.75ohms/10watts in series to tweeter. You can vary this value (to suit your sound inclination) by putting parallel resistor to the one already installed. If the tweeter is assumed to be at 6 ohms also, the following power increase to the tweeter can be approximated:

paralleled     increase in tweeter
 resistor       power     loudness
ohms/5W        %            dB
-----------   --------    ----------
   none             0             0
   8-10             7           0.3
   6-7               9           0.4
     5               12          0.5
     4               14          0.6
     3               17          0.7
     2               21          0.8
   1.5              25            1
     1               29          1.1
    0.5             35          1.3
 shorted         45           1.6
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Nov 30, 2004 at 12:40 PM
is there no risk of damaging the tweeter at shorted position? what would the max receiver setting be?

thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: aHobbit on Nov 30, 2004 at 04:39 PM
is there no risk of damaging the tweeter at shorted position? what would the max receiver setting be?

thanks

As avphile1 said, such resistor is just there to supposedly even-out the freq spectrum of the speaker (by setting the power - like a volume control to tweeter). The resistor can be seen also as a protection unit for the simple reason that it cuts power to the tweeter at a certain extent. Of course, this also means your tweeter also will sound softer. But since tweeter still has the frequency cutover to divert into it only the high frequency (typically few watts, even at volumes), safety of the tweeter is not at all an issue. It is more potent for a low-powered amp to destroy a tweeter (due to DC caused by clipping) than high powered amps. Even the resistor can not not even prevent such.

I tried mine at loud volumes - high frequency flies!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: backdraft on Dec 01, 2004 at 08:48 AM
I'm planning to have a separate setup for audio, I already have an ONKYO TX 800 amp rated at 160W 8ohms paired with a surplus CDP , do you guys think that it can make an 8.3 sing or is the 9.2 better, or do you have any suggestion for a better speaker for the same price range. How about an 8.1?

Thanks!  ;D for the help.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 01, 2004 at 11:00 AM
I'm planning to have a separate setup for audio, I already have an ONKYO TX 800 amp rated at 160W 8ohms paired with a surplus CDP , do you guys think that it can make an 8.3 sing or is the 9.2 better, or do you have any suggestion for a better speaker for the same price range. How about an 8.1?

Thanks!  ;D for the help.

Check out the mordaunt shorts.  Pardon me, but  I'm a biased user of Mordaunt. (Notwithstanding their lousy after sales)

I personally don't see any problem pairing an Onkyo with a diamond (8 or 9).  Though some say  both onkyo and wharfes are on the warm side.  I wouldn't really classify the MS as bright.  Just more detailed in the highs.  And a warm sounding onkyo can better be served with a more detailed speaker.  I've tried them in my transistion set-up last year, great detailing. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: backdraft on Dec 01, 2004 at 11:13 AM


Check out the mordaunt shorts.  Pardon me, but  I'm a biased user of Mordaunt. (Notwithstanding their lousy after sales)

I personally don't see any problem pairing an Onkyo with a diamond (8 or 9).  Though some say  both onkyo and wharfes are on the warm side.  I wouldn't really classify the MS as bright.  Just more detailed in the highs.  And a warm sounding onkyo can better be served with a more detailed speaker.  I've tried them in my transistion set-up last year, great detailing. 

Thanks sir av_phile1, how much are those mordaunts costs, do you have any model to suggest and where can I audition it.

Thanks!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Dec 01, 2004 at 11:29 AM
you can check out auido shops at park square 1, i saw MS speakers in 5th Ave
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 01, 2004 at 11:36 AM
5th Avenue is the local distributor of MS.  I recall their sister companies like Abenson also carries MS. 

What I have is the MS914 floorstander.  I think the smaller MS904 floorstander is closer to the 9.4/8.4 in price.    You can audition them at the Park Square or at Shangri-la Edsa's 5th avenue branches. 

When I got my 914 last Chrsitmas, the 904 can be had for 10T cash discounted, close to the 8.3 at around 9T.  Haven't checked lately but they may have reduced their prices as well.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: backdraft on Dec 01, 2004 at 11:51 AM
Thanks for your help guys  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LETOR on Dec 04, 2004 at 10:18 PM
Anybody.... guys based on your experience, what do you think is the best matched AVR for diamond 8.3 for music and video application(50 - 50)? Thanks for any feedback!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Dec 04, 2004 at 10:25 PM
Sir LETOR, Harman Kardon is the answer.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LETOR on Dec 05, 2004 at 08:44 AM
Sir LETOR, Harman Kardon is the answer.  ;)

Thanks!!!!  Control.

How about the with the 8.1. I know that this speaker has a different frequency characteristics from the 8.3 on the mids and highs (disregard the bass its understandable because of its big enclosure and driver ).  Will the H/K make it sing too?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: zakkaz on Dec 05, 2004 at 11:15 AM


Thanks!!!!  Control.

How about the with the 8.1. I know that this speaker has a different frequency characteristics from the 8.3 on the mids and highs (disregard the bass its understandable because of its big enclosure and driver ).  Will the H/K make it sing too?
if you want you can audition the wharf n harman @ spectra Parksquare 1 so that you'll be able to differentiate the two
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LETOR on Dec 05, 2004 at 12:02 PM
If only I could, the problem is I'm outside metro manila. Thanks for the advice..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 05, 2004 at 08:04 PM
Letor,

HK can drive all the Diamond 8 series from is smallest model 8.1 to 8.4.. even the 9 series match. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Dec 05, 2004 at 09:08 PM
Letor,

HK can drive all the Diamond 8 series from is smallest model 8.1 to 8.4.. even the 9 series match. :)

I second the motion..  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LETOR on Dec 05, 2004 at 10:39 PM
Thanks hans & control....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Dec 06, 2004 at 06:38 AM
Thanks hans & control....

You're very much welcome Sir.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Dec 07, 2004 at 05:46 PM
who said the diamond 8 series is for cheap set-ups only?

(http://gallery.audioreview.com/data/audio//2/0/IMG_0131-med.JPG)

btw - di akin yan ha... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Philander on Dec 07, 2004 at 05:57 PM
Reposting for iceman90a...


(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SQDCG60UxOWaO6Xyfcavz!6Bj4*nXNuXkGhf4WWh2ybv2lPuMhIeuZFGRVU3!aNO3Q2WJ2fPzBT3r0X0qNMdU*an04gRnqs*c7nAbG8R!AqalAJhyMFguw/IMG_0131-med.jpg?dc=4675500584943491328)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Dec 07, 2004 at 06:12 PM
Who said so?  ;D ;D ;D galing nga ng setup eh  :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: iceman90a on Dec 07, 2004 at 07:00 PM
thanks Philander :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Dec 07, 2004 at 07:45 PM
Reposting for iceman90a...


(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SQDCG60UxOWaO6Xyfcavz!6Bj4*nXNuXkGhf4WWh2ybv2lPuMhIeuZFGRVU3!aNO3Q2WJ2fPzBT3r0X0qNMdU*an04gRnqs*c7nAbG8R!AqalAJhyMFguw/IMG_0131-med.jpg?dc=4675500584943491328)

Ang ganda Sir! Blend na blend yung kulay ng diamond 8 series sa room...  :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: aHobbit on Dec 08, 2004 at 10:06 AM
who said the diamond 8 series is for cheap set-ups only?


Diamond 8 (and 9) is in fact a cheap setup . . . . .  :o

. . . . . . but the sound performance surpasses that of many high-priced high ends!  ;D

- with the right amp of course!  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 08, 2004 at 01:30 PM


Diamond 8 (and 9) is in fact a cheap setup . . . . .  :o

. . . . . . but the sound performance surpasses that of many high-priced high ends!  ;D

- with the right amp of course!  ;)

Tama!! 8) 8)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Dec 08, 2004 at 05:08 PM
its never the price for me............ its how it will perform and how ill enjoy it.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Dec 08, 2004 at 05:55 PM
its never the price for me............ its how it will perform and how ill enjoy it.

Sir mas magandang mag-perform ang LS3 kaysa sa wharfedale..  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: backdraft on Dec 10, 2004 at 09:51 AM
mga sir, kasama ba yung mga speaker spikes when you buy these diamond series.

thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 10, 2004 at 10:43 AM
Dapat kasama.  I hardly see any speaker spikes for sale separately, meron ba?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Dec 10, 2004 at 10:50 AM
It should have speaker spikes plus a wood panel inside the box
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: garee on Dec 10, 2004 at 11:18 AM
kahit bookshelfs speakers may kasama rin spikes?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Dec 10, 2004 at 11:28 AM
Iba talaga ang 8.3!  ;D

Ayan nanaman tayo... Ahehehe...   ;D  :P
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Dec 10, 2004 at 11:28 AM
Bookshelf doesn't have it, they need speaker stands with spikes 8)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Dec 10, 2004 at 11:34 AM
slayer,

nagsisimula ka na naman ;D Lufet ng 8.3 mo... di pa ba magreretiro yan ;D may 9 series na pre >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Chito C. on Dec 10, 2004 at 11:36 AM
Nagka interest na yung naka set aside kong para para sa 8.3 nyo.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Chito C. on Dec 10, 2004 at 11:38 AM
pera pala
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: backdraft on Dec 10, 2004 at 11:40 AM
It should have speaker spikes plus a wood panel inside the box

sir, para saan yun wood panel?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Dec 10, 2004 at 11:45 AM
backdraft,

di ko rin alam kung ano purpose nung wood panel na kinakabit sa ilalim ng speaker, siguro parang stabilizer ng speaker.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 10, 2004 at 12:20 PM
Maybe the spikes are to be attached to the wood panel.  Then put the speaker on top.  Not sure if that would afford better isolation though. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LETOR on Dec 10, 2004 at 12:22 PM


sir, para saan yun wood panel?
yung speaker mo dyan naka patong sa wood panel tapos ang spikes sa wood panel naka mount. protection ng speaker box mo yung panel para hindi dali ma sira yung base nya at saka vinyl wood finishing nya. dyan ang mounting provision ng spikes sa panel eh.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 12, 2004 at 07:07 PM


sir, para saan yun wood panel?

Yun plinth ba?? i think to add some pogi point sa 8.3.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LETOR on Dec 12, 2004 at 11:00 PM
yup! isa pa yun!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Dec 13, 2004 at 11:07 AM
Quote from: Control
Sir mas magandang mag-perform ang LS3 kaysa sa wharfedale..


ano to ha..... anong ibig mong sabihin nito?

kukuha ka ng ls3 sir? oist, congrats ha! padinig nyan sir! ganda nyan!   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Dec 13, 2004 at 11:09 AM
my take on the plinth.... protector ang pogi points yan. gusto nyo tanong natin sa wharfe designers ng diamond 8 series, para sure tayo? hehehehe  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Dec 13, 2004 at 11:16 AM



ano to ha..... anong ibig mong sabihin nito?

kukuha ka ng ls3 sir? oist, congrats ha! padinig nyan sir! ganda nyan!   

wows ls3... congrats control..  ;D  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Dec 13, 2004 at 11:28 AM
Nyahaha..Mga Sir, nde po ako bibili nyang ls3 na yan at uunahin ko muna ang tube amp bago yan  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jdg on Dec 13, 2004 at 11:29 AM
ano yung speaker spikes and plinth? ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Dec 13, 2004 at 12:27 PM
speaker spikes- yong matatalim at pahaba na metal na nakalagay sa ilalim ng speaker o d kayay, speaker stands.  ;D

and it looks like this:
(http://images.google.com.ph/images?q=tbn:WDX6SOGLChIJ:www.nexxia.co.uk/images/NX-SF-011.jpg)

(http://images.google.com.ph/images?q=tbn:lUHazf6qX-0J:www.midsouthcable.com/OmageSpeakerStandsSpikes220.jpg)

(http://images.google.com.ph/images?q=tbn:t4_WpK3QMEQJ:www.barstools4u.com/JPGS/Speakerstands/7070wire.jpg)

plinth-yong malapad na bagay (karamihan gawa sa kahoy o metal) na pinapatongan ng speaker at kadalasan e dito kinakabit yong spikes  ;D

tulad nito:

(http://images.google.com.ph/images?q=tbn:Djt21iVHOAYJ:www.angelfire.com/alt/tryrrthg/DIY/spikes.JPG)

(http://images.google.com.ph/images?q=tbn:vayeQNpXQ_oJ:www.oregondv.com/Floor%2520Speaker%2520Spur%2520Small%25203.jpg)

(http://images.google.com.ph/images?q=tbn:zD41D_Ay7i4J:www.oregondv.com/Floor%2520Speaker%2520Spur%2520with%2520sub%2520front%2520small.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Dec 13, 2004 at 12:34 PM
Nicely done Sir wanderlust!  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: backdraft on Dec 14, 2004 at 06:07 AM
Mga sir, wala ba sa inyo may balak mag benta ng 8.3 dyan!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 14, 2004 at 07:45 AM
Mga sir, wala ba sa inyo may balak mag benta ng 8.3 dyan!  ;D

KID_lat & oFFContROL,

Uy chance to jump into the 9 series na ito pre..  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: backdraft on Dec 14, 2004 at 07:53 AM


KID_lat & oFFContROL,

Uy chance to jump into the 9 series na ito pre..  ;D ;D ;D

OO nga! hehehe  ;D Upgrade na!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 14, 2004 at 07:56 AM
May nakita ako na shop ng shoes sa Tutuban Center kahapon na apat na Wharf bookshelfs ang nasa 4 corners nun store at may sub na gamit. Ang galing nun setup dun, actually nag enjoy ako sa sounds nun shop at hindi dun sa tinda nila eh!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Dec 14, 2004 at 09:37 AM
kaya kayong mga 8.3 owners dyan follow my lead... benta benta na! din mamob-lema na sa palit........... up to now wla pang palit.......... waahhhhhhhh!

galing nga shop na yan sir ah, pwede kayang mag session don sir?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Dec 14, 2004 at 10:03 AM
Nagtataka lang ako... nagbigayan na ng bonus ngunit wala parin nag uupgrade sa 9s? Ano ba mga 8 boys?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 14, 2004 at 10:10 AM
Nagtataka lang ako... nagbigayan na ng bonus ngunit wala parin nag uupgrade sa 9s? Ano ba mga 8 boys?

ano wala pa? meron na si KoyA ah... si attorney kumukuha lang ng tyempo yan eh!  >:D

o baka humahanap lang ng mahihiram na sasakyan dahil 9.4 yata ang kukunin nyan.  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: sebman on Dec 14, 2004 at 10:14 AM
uy congrats attorney.. floorstander na agad para di na kailangan ng sub....  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Dec 14, 2004 at 10:16 AM
Bigatin pala sir jojo... di kaya 9.6 ang kakanain?  ;D  >:D



ano wala pa? meron na si KoyA ah... si attorney kumukuha lang ng tyempo yan eh!  >:D

o baka humahanap lang ng mahihiram na sasakyan dahil 9.4 yata ang kukunin nyan.  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 14, 2004 at 10:49 AM
talaga naman bigatin yan si attorney kaya yan tahimik, nagiisip kung kasya na sa FX taxi yun kukunin nya na wharfs!  ;D


Wanderlust! Fish Fish!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Dec 14, 2004 at 11:26 AM
Naghihintay lang ng ibang kulay ng 9._... pero mas priority nya yung isang project >:D di ba attorney wander_ _ _ _ _ ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: wanderlust on Dec 14, 2004 at 11:29 AM
lang ya kayo, hehehehe.

tahimik ako dhil ala pang pambili tsaka mas my pinaghahahndaan ako no, hehehehe. mas exciting, mas rewarding. hula hula  ::)  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 14, 2004 at 11:29 AM
Naghihintay lang ng ibang kulay ng 9._... pero mas priority nya yung isang project >:D di ba attorney wander_ _ _ _ _ ;D

And who knows baka may tinatapos lang na kaso yan, magugulat na lang tayo at naka 9.something na yan!  ;D

Bilib talaga ako dun sa Wharfs sa tutuban, pati nga yun mga nag-gagandahang mga saleslady eh napapa-indak sa music.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: zakkaz on Dec 14, 2004 at 11:46 AM


And who knows baka may tinatapos lang na kaso yan, magugulat na lang tayo at naka 9.something na yan!  ;D

Bilib talaga ako dun sa Wharfs sa tutuban, pati nga yun mga nag-gagandahang mga saleslady eh napapa-indak sa music.  ;D
anong store yun?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 14, 2004 at 11:57 AM

anong store yun?


ang totoo nyan i didn't bother to look at the store name since ang nakita ko agad is yun Wharf bookshelfs. walang grills at four pices sya (one on every corner of the store). feel ko na may sub sya although hindi ko na nakita kung san nakalagay yun sub nila at baka magmukhang suspicious na ako eh.  ;D i think the store sells shoes.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 14, 2004 at 03:49 PM


ano wala pa? meron na si KoyA ah... BOnus ba Masta JOJO

Naku bonus di uso sa office namin yan..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 14, 2004 at 10:12 PM


Naku bonus di uso sa office namin yan..

Ows, ikaw talaga KoYA napaka humble mo eh ikaw pa naman ang hinirang na "Salesman of the Year", di lang ako sure kung sa office yan o sa audio (SARS)!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: garee on Dec 15, 2004 at 03:51 PM
question lang po...

would you trade your 8.3 with a 9.2?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 15, 2004 at 03:53 PM
question lang po...

would you trade your 8.3 with a 9.2?

Bro may kilala ako ginawa yan..  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Dec 15, 2004 at 04:01 PM


Bro may kilala ako ginawa yan..  ;D ;D ;D

Ako rin Sir may kilala  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: garee on Dec 15, 2004 at 04:43 PM
talaga mga sir,
mas satisfied kaya sila ngayon kesa dati o parehas lang ang feeling?  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Dec 15, 2004 at 04:47 PM
sino ba may balak makipag swap ng 9.2 sa 8.3? ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 15, 2004 at 05:08 PM
Palagay ko masarap ang feeling nun mga nag swap.....


Pero may kilala ako na may guilty feeling eh...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 15, 2004 at 05:46 PM
talaga mga sir,
mas satisfied kaya sila ngayon kesa dati o parehas lang ang feeling?  ;)

Actually he prefer 9.2 but his budget was short that time so when the right amount came he sold his 8.3 to a friend and got a 9.2..

performance wise depend talaga sa room and preference mo sa music.. alam ko kasi meron na yun floorstander so talaga bookshelf na next buy nya.. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Dec 15, 2004 at 07:32 PM
Palagay ko masarap ang feeling nun mga nag swap.....


Pero may kilala ako na may guilty feeling eh...  ;D

May kilala rin akong ganyan Sir  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: j_albert22 on Dec 15, 2004 at 07:51 PM


May kilala rin akong ganyan Sir  ;D
::)
oo nga di na nakatiis bumili na agad at ano kayang kulay ang nabili? ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Dec 16, 2004 at 06:55 AM

 ::)
oo nga di na nakatiis bumili na agad at ano kayang kulay ang nabili? ::)

Hmmm....ang nabili nya ay wharfe 9x at color toooooot  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 16, 2004 at 08:44 AM

 ::)
oo nga di na nakatiis bumili na agad at ano kayang kulay ang nabili? ::)

Di nga nakatiis Black na lang binili.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Dec 16, 2004 at 08:49 AM


Di nga nakatiis Black na lang binili.. ;D

 ;D Sir, paki sabi kung ayaw nya yung black sa akin na lang ipaampon  ;D >:D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: nels76 on Dec 16, 2004 at 12:49 PM
Nasa magkano ba ang pinakamurang 9.x series?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 16, 2004 at 09:36 PM
Nasa magkano ba ang pinakamurang 9.x series?

9.1 start at 5,500 ata next is 9.2 at 7k
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Dec 17, 2004 at 08:58 AM
dealer na dealer ang dating mo Koya ;D :P Btw, musta na yung toooooot mo? ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Dec 17, 2004 at 10:00 AM
dealer na dealer ang dating mo Koya ;D :P Btw, musta na yung toooooot mo? ;)

Sir hindi dealer yang si kOya... tooootttttt yan.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 17, 2004 at 11:39 AM


Sir hindi dealer yang si kOya... tooootttttt yan.  ;D

Salesman of the Year!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: kid on Dec 17, 2004 at 11:41 AM
Quote from: JojoD
Salesman of the Year!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 17, 2004 at 02:49 PM
Yan baka akala naman ng people eh totoo connected ako sa mga shop.. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: allvin_98 on Dec 17, 2004 at 03:23 PM
mga sir(s),

ask ko lang. ka level na ba ng wharf 9.2 yun AE EVO 1, B2, B&W bookshelves when it comes to output performance?

kung ka-level na sila eh sa wharf 9.x na lang ako.hehehe

thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Dec 17, 2004 at 04:49 PM
Yan baka akala naman ng people eh totoo connected ako sa mga shop.. ;D ;D ;D

Disclaimer...disclaimer... Hans Andriane is not connected whatsoever on any audio/video shops in the Philippines.  ;D

Okay na ba yan kOya?  ::) ;D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LETOR on Jan 02, 2005 at 01:20 PM
http://groups.msn.com/PinoyDVD/mixture.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=3210

another look of diamond 8.1
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: berniebau on Jan 02, 2005 at 11:39 PM
http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0RgAPA5cUxNpstCf8xyJvGq!

another look of diamond 8.1

bro,
hindi mo yata na paste ng kumpleto yung link. usually around 4 lines yan kapag sa msn.  O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LETOR on Jan 03, 2005 at 06:18 AM
okay tnx for the advice. pls check if okay already. na edit ko na.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Control on Jan 03, 2005 at 07:28 AM
okay tnx for the advice. pls check if okay already. na edit ko na.

Okay na Sir! The link is working perfectly now.. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: backdraft on Jan 10, 2005 at 12:58 PM
wala ba mag-papa ampon ng 8.3 dyan  >:D >:D >:D

http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=32849.0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: masterjericho on Jan 19, 2005 at 01:01 AM
new owner of an 8.4

masasabi ko lang... kewl  O0

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: bumblebee on Jan 19, 2005 at 11:01 AM
new owner of an 8.4

masasabi ko lang... kewl  O0



congrats masterjericho :) what amp are you using?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: allvin_98 on Jan 19, 2005 at 07:28 PM
new owner of an 8.4

masasabi ko lang... kewl  O0



congrats! same questions from bumblebee, what amp are you using?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: masterjericho on Jan 20, 2005 at 04:09 PM
thanks!  :)

im using yammy 440

okie naman... usually mula -60db to -40db lang vol ko and

great improvement since satellite speakers lan gamit ko dati

(yamaha nsp 106). me difference talaga pag me mid bass at

least mas buo tunog kapag kikinig ako ng music and tulong

din yung sub ko sa lower frequencies. kaya panalo hehe  :D

pag pumikit ako... kala ko nasa harap ko si kyla  ;D

lalo na sa HT, mas naging powerful yung sound.


teka, pano nyo ba break-in wharfedale? saka sabi sa thread,

mas matagal daw to break-in.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: bumblebee on Jan 20, 2005 at 04:24 PM
thanks!  :)

im using yammy 440

okie naman... usually mula -60db to -40db lang vol ko and

great improvement since satellite speakers lan gamit ko dati

(yamaha nsp 106). me difference talaga pag me mid bass at

least mas buo tunog kapag kikinig ako ng music and tulong

din yung sub ko sa lower frequencies. kaya panalo hehe  :D

pag pumikit ako... kala ko nasa harap ko si kyla  ;D

lalo na sa HT, mas naging powerful yung sound.


teka, pano nyo ba break-in wharfedale? saka sabi sa thread,

mas matagal daw to break-in.



basta wag mo muna itodo yung volume ng husto. siguro as time goes by, unti unti mong dagdagan yung volume.

good to know that you can feel kyla in front of you :) pag nagpapatugtog ako ng michael buble, iiwasan kong pumikit hehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: allvin_98 on Jan 20, 2005 at 06:44 PM
basta wag mo muna itodo yung volume ng husto. siguro as time goes by, unti unti mong dagdagan yung volume.

good to know that you can feel kyla in front of you :) pag nagpapatugtog ako ng michael buble, iiwasan kong pumikit hehehe.

hehehe.bakit sir ayaw mong pumikit? baka ma-in-love ka ba kay michael buble? at maiyak...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: bumblebee on Jan 20, 2005 at 07:05 PM
hehehe.bakit sir ayaw mong pumikit? baka ma-in-love ka ba kay michael buble? at maiyak...

ayokong imaginin...yukkki. si kyla na rin lang :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: masterjericho on Jan 20, 2005 at 07:20 PM
@bumblebee

haha  O0 pakinggan na lang wag na imaginin

thanks for the tip.

anyways, most ata na vol  -35db lang..

nde na kami magkarinigan ng kasama ko nanood.






Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 23, 2005 at 09:08 AM
Hi guys, I was planning to buy either Wharfedale 8.DFS or 9.DFS to replace my WH-2 bipole speakers (120 w). I love the way the WH2 bipoles throw the sound around our HT environment. Its just that sometimes bumibigay yung sound when its very loud (Air Force 1, for example). I auditioned the WH3 and it sounds like a loud transistor radio.

The DFS is just 100w but a dealer said that it uses bigger drivers and therefor its louder. But I was never able to audition it.

Can anyone using 8 or 9.DFS give any feedback please? Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ampalaya_juice on Feb 11, 2005 at 07:02 PM
Hi guys, im new here...so i would like to ask for your advice. I am purchasing a wharf diamond 8.4 tommorrow and after reading the threads im having a dilemna of which receiver is compatible with the 8.4 (On a tight budget)?

My choices are:
Yamaha rxv-440 (10k secondhand 5 mnth old)
Yamaha rxv-450 (15k Brandnew)

Its gonna be use for both DVD playing and music.

Are there any significant differences with these 2? Because im tempted of getting the 440 instead.

Any other suggestions or advice for alternative AVR's will be much appreciated.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: obey on Feb 12, 2005 at 05:09 PM
Try to check the buy and sell section.  I think there is someone there who is selling his RX-V730 for P12K+.  Sobrang bargain ito kung sakali.  I think this receiver also has pre-outs so pwede mong kabitan ng separate na 5-ch power amp kung gusto mo ng additional power.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: MAtZTER on Feb 12, 2005 at 09:42 PM
Hi guys, I was planning to buy either Wharfedale 8.DFS or 9.DFS to replace my WH-2 bipole speakers (120 w). I love the way the WH2 bipoles throw the sound around our HT environment. Its just that sometimes bumibigay yung sound when its very loud (Air Force 1, for example). I auditioned the WH3 and it sounds like a loud transistor radio.

The DFS is just 100w but a dealer said that it uses bigger drivers and therefor its louder. But I was never able to audition it.

Can anyone using 8 or 9.DFS give any feedback please? Thanks in advance.


No need to answer anymore. Got myself a set of Mission speakers with M7ds dipole surrounds  ;D. Now I need to test Air Force 1 on this baby...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: masterjericho on Mar 16, 2005 at 10:30 PM
Wharfedale site has a new look

click and see : http://www.wharfedale.co.uk

anyways,

what will you advice, an all diamond set up (FR FL C RR RL RC) or a diamond fronts w/ wh-3 for rears?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: slayer on Apr 07, 2005 at 10:39 AM
Hi,

Depends on your room, if you have an equal distance for the side wall, a dipole is very good for this application since bounced sound will travel the same distance. If you have an awkard room size... go with a bookshelf instead. HTH.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: migs26 on Apr 28, 2005 at 12:49 PM
mga bro,

planning to buy my 1st wharf eh...budget is 10k..but can stretch it a bit kung OK..

what is the best buy ba?
I've auditioned an 8.4 eh OK naman para sa akin..
pero di ko pa na try mag pa audition ng 9s eh...ano ba katapat ng 8.4 sa 9 series in term of price and quality?


thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 28, 2005 at 12:54 PM
mga bro,

planning to buy my 1st wharf eh...budget is 10k..but can stretch it a bit kung OK..

what is the best buy ba?
I've auditioned an 8.4 eh OK naman para sa akin..
pero di ko pa na try mag pa audition ng 9s eh...ano ba katapat ng 8.4 sa 9 series in term of price and quality?


thanks!

pricewise, 9.4 kaso 2-way it o like the 8.3. yung 9.5 2 1/2-way just like the 8.4.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: masterjericho on Apr 28, 2005 at 01:37 PM
i have an 8.4 and satisfied with it...

but if you have a little more money... then get the 9.5

para nde ka mag ka SARS

hehehe  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: migs26 on Apr 28, 2005 at 03:49 PM
i have an 8.4 and satisfied with it...

but if you have a little more money... then get the 9.5

para nde ka mag ka SARS

hehehe  ;D

how much is the 9.5 ? baka malapit na rin sa price ng Mission speakers..eh di mag Mission na lang ako.. hay naku?!?  hehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 28, 2005 at 03:54 PM
how much is the 9.5 ? baka malapit na rin sa price ng Mission speakers..eh di mag Mission na lang ako.. hay naku?!?  hehe

12.5k
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's - Matching
Post by: LETOR on Aug 22, 2005 at 08:56 PM
Need Help!!!!   Mga sirs, my brother has a Diamond 8.3 speakers and is planning to buy a new surround receiver. The choices are Harman/Kardon AV635,  Denon AVR 885 or 985. Sa may mga experience sa Denon at HK, which do you think is the best receiver that will match with Wharfedale Diamond 8.3. Preference is 50/50 for HT and Music listening. Thanks for any expert advise....Need the advise before Wednesday since the above products are in promo.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's - Matching
Post by: edboy7 on Aug 22, 2005 at 10:03 PM
Need Help!!!!   Mga sirs, my brother has a Diamond 8.3 speakers and is planning to buy a new surround receiver. The choices are Harman/Kardon AV635,  Denon AVR 885 or 985. Sa may mga experience sa Denon at HK, which do you think is the best receiver that will match with Wharfedale Diamond 8.3. Preference is 50/50 for HT and Music listening. Thanks for any expert advise....Need the advise before Wednesday since the above products are in promo.
very easy dude....go for the HK635 ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's - Matching
Post by: LETOR on Aug 23, 2005 at 08:21 AM
very easy dude....go for the HK635 ;)

sir, any short comment or description regarding the HK + D8.3 combination and the Denon + D8.3 if you have tested it. Thanks...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's - Matching
Post by: zakkaz on Aug 24, 2005 at 10:57 AM
sir, any short comment or description regarding the HK + D8.3 combination and the Denon + D8.3 if you have tested it. Thanks...
HK is high current amplifier eventhough low wattage indicated but definitely its very powerful
D8.3 is using kevlar so its sort of very hard to drive and speakers need current to drive it.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: fweyd on Aug 24, 2005 at 11:55 AM
how can the diamond 8's compare to diamond 9's ??

preferably the diamond 8.4 and diamond 9.5 ??

also the Diamond 8.1 and Diamond 9.1 ? cause im planning on getting a used set of 8 series since maliit lang budget ko :(

btw, it'l be powered by a Yamaha RXV-490 AVR
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's - Matching
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 24, 2005 at 02:26 PM
Need Help!!!!   Mga sirs, my brother has a Diamond 8.3 speakers and is planning to buy a new surround receiver. The choices are Harman/Kardon AV635,  Denon AVR 885 or 985. Sa may mga experience sa Denon at HK, which do you think is the best receiver that will match with Wharfedale Diamond 8.3. Preference is 50/50 for HT and Music listening. Thanks for any expert advise....Need the advise before Wednesday since the above products are in promo.

Go for the HK635. How much is it w/ promo?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's - Matching
Post by: zakkaz on Aug 25, 2005 at 11:12 AM
Go for the HK635. How much is it w/ promo?
try asking spectra @ 8185493
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: zakkaz on Aug 25, 2005 at 11:16 AM
how can the diamond 8's compare to diamond 9's ??

preferably the diamond 8.4 and diamond 9.5 ??

also the Diamond 8.1 and Diamond 9.1 ? cause im planning on getting a used set of 8 series since maliit lang budget ko :(

btw, it'l be powered by a Yamaha RXV-490 AVR
diamond 9 mas improve ang high frequency nya compared sa diamond 8
y not buying a net set of 8 series may sale sa Spectra ang mga 8 series
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: masterjericho on Aug 26, 2005 at 09:41 PM
how can the diamond 8's compare to diamond 9's ??

preferably the diamond 8.4 and diamond 9.5 ??

also the Diamond 8.1 and Diamond 9.1 ? cause im planning on getting a used set of 8 series since maliit lang budget ko :(

btw, it'l be powered by a Yamaha RXV-490 AVR

ive asked myself that question also... but i did settle for wharf 8.4  ;D hehe

hmm if you feel na ok na sayo yung 8-series then go for it

try to audition and see what your options.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LETOR on Aug 26, 2005 at 11:01 PM

also the Diamond 8.1 and Diamond 9.1 ? cause im planning on getting a used set of 8 series since maliit lang budget ko :(


Sir, you can read my observation on the Diamond9's thread. D8.1 vs D9.1 « Reply #1276 on: Jul 24, 2005 at 10:43 AM »
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: atomicat10 on Dec 26, 2005 at 07:21 PM
My pre-owned Wharfedale 8.4 produces  annoying crackling sounds (Volume 35) during rocket scene (the Incredibles R3) and some other loud sounding scenes but never did on the entire Batman Begins DE R3(same volume)

Is it the sound track or is it my speakers (damaged goods?) I noticed that when I lowered the volume to 30, no crackling/ "katok"/ tunog sira. The dvd was great for surrounds but too harsh for my fronts (I thought this floorstanders can handle the heat) anyway as I mentioned, parang special case ung Incredibles.

I also tried decreasing the specefic volume of the fronts(level 0 and -7) and crackling disappeared but didn't produced the same sound production (too little bass, I have no Subwoofer). 

The front channels were the only ones affected, the rest were ok.

Please advise.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Toquero on Dec 27, 2005 at 07:32 AM
My pre-owned Wharfedale 8.4 produces  annoying crackling sounds (Volume 35) during rocket scene (the Incredibles R3) and some other loud sounding scenes but never did on the entire Batman Begins DE R3(same volume)

Is it the sound track or is it my speakers (damaged goods?) I noticed that when I lowered the volume to 30, no crackling/ "katok"/ tunog sira. The dvd was great for surrounds but too harsh for my fronts (I thought this floorstanders can handle the heat) anyway as I mentioned, parang special case ung Incredibles.

I also tried decreasing the specefic volume of the fronts(level 0 and -7) and crackling disappeared but didn't produced the same sound production (too little bass, I have no Subwoofer). 

The front channels were the only ones affected, the rest were ok.

Please advise.

What AVR are you using do drive these speakers?... :( I've encountered this before with my 8.3 way back when I was using a rxv440 avr parang magaralgal. I thought sira yung  speakers, But there are things that I've learned in this hobby and there are some limitations need to consider:

  a. Diamond 8.4 floorstander or 8.3 for my case actually cannot handle and produce all the LFE that you need considering
      the size of the bass/mid  driver.
  b. The reciever also limits the performance of any HT experience. Distortion may occur if the reciever cannot handle the
      load. When I replaced my reciever with a much better model (mid-level) to drive this speakers, Distortion on higher 
      volume level (-5.00db) on non-stop action movies including "The Incredibles" :) was not experienced.
  c. And lastly, on a HT system ,a subwoofer is a must .... :) You will not fully be satisfied on movie watching. Unless you are
      into music.

But that's just me.... ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: atomicat10 on Dec 27, 2005 at 08:39 AM
Thanks.

I'm using an Onkyo 501 but I doubt it's got anything to do with it because it was in a major way, case specific to the Incredibles movie only. I have not experienced it sa other movies and never happened on music neither.

The one I am considering right now (thanks to you) is the the lack of subwoofer. On the island(the Incredibles) where Dash was running from the launching rocket, the sound produced by the rocket boosters, was that LFE extensive or will these sounds be subwoofer dependent? In that case my 8.4 are not the culprit.

What is the cheapest subwoofer out there? I have seen online a WH2 subs.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: devo on Dec 27, 2005 at 10:42 AM
Quote from: atomicat10 link=topic=1662.msg526973#msg526973 date=1135643952

What is the cheapest subwoofer out there? I have seen online a WH2 subs.
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go for US Audio 508 (minimum)........ I have this hooked with my 501 and there is no irrritating sound with the volume even on the 50 level. Then have the BASS set to zero. I have sent you another message on how to set up the subs on the ONKYO AVR thread. hope these can help.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Toquero on Dec 27, 2005 at 10:45 AM
Thanks.

I'm using an Onkyo 501 but I doubt it's got anything to do with it because it was in a major way, case specific to the Incredibles movie only. I have not experienced it sa other movies and never happened on music neither.

The one I am considering right now (thanks to you) is the the lack of subwoofer. On the island(the Incredibles) where Dash was running from the launching rocket, the sound produced by the rocket boosters, was that LFE extensive or will these sounds be subwoofer dependent? In that case my 8.4 are not the culprit.

What is the cheapest subwoofer out there? I have seen online a WH2 subs.

I think dynaquest subs is more enough for movies. Sa buy n sell forum, I think they are selling mordaunt short subs, B&W subs, JPL subs pa nga eh. For a budget 6K-10K you can acquire bnew Wharf SW150, Gale subs, us audio,dtx sub,Dynaquest,mordaunt short subs. For a 11K - 20K, (mordaunt short mid level sub, velodyne vx-10 ,velodyne cht-8, yammy sw350,jammo i series sub,polk audio subs) . For pre owned subs,you can acquire it for 4K-5K hintay ka lang post sa thread. Timing lang ang kailangan mo... ;D marami na cgrong nakapag upgrade na ng gears nila by the end of this year... ;D

"On the island(the Incredibles) where Dash was running from the launching rocket, the sound produced by the rocket boosters, was that LFE extensive or will these sounds be subwoofer dependent? In that case my 8.4 are not the culprit."

Yes indeed , the LFE on that scene is actually extensive (20Hz below). Imagine yourself ,infront of an airplane taking off  ;D ;D . For ease of mind try to set the speaker settings of front to small ,and crank up the volume on that scene where the distortion occurs and hear the difference... :)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 27, 2005 at 03:49 PM
Bro, your AVR maybe be clipping on that particular scene try to add a sub so all the LFE sya na maghandle less stress sa AVR and front speaker mo tapos follow mo na lang advise nila.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: atomicat10 on Dec 28, 2005 at 12:23 AM
Thanks.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: keema on Jan 05, 2006 at 08:10 AM
sir, magkano nalang po kaya ang diamond 8.4? tyaka sa diamond 9, hindi ko alam yung model nung floorstander eh...pero magkano din kaya?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: zakkaz on Jan 05, 2006 at 09:31 AM
sir, magkano nalang po kaya ang diamond 8.4? tyaka sa diamond 9, hindi ko alam yung model nung floorstander eh...pero magkano din kaya?
ang price ng 8.4 dati ay 9000 pero bumaba na ang price. ang katapat ng 8.4 ay 9.5 same dual driver nasa 12500 nman.
subukan mong pumunta sa spectra meron sila ng mga wharf
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: keema on Jan 05, 2006 at 08:51 PM
ang price ng 8.4 dati ay 9000 pero bumaba na ang price. ang katapat ng 8.4 ay 9.5 same dual driver nasa 12500 nman.
subukan mong pumunta sa spectra meron sila ng mga wharf

san po ba spectra? palagi ko kseng nakakalimutan eh....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Assassin101 on Jan 11, 2006 at 09:28 AM
san po ba spectra? palagi ko kseng nakakalimutan eh....

spectra is located at park square makati.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Assassin101 on Jan 13, 2006 at 02:08 PM
mga peeps... kaya po ba ng RX-V650 un wharfedale 8.4?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: masterjericho on Jan 31, 2006 at 04:06 PM
kayang kaya bro...

mga peeps... kaya po ba ng RX-V650 un wharfedale 8.4?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: aldrinpsx on Jan 31, 2006 at 07:33 PM
Mga Sir.....Contact info ng stores that sells Wharfedale Pacific Evo Series10 Bookshelf ..maraming salamat.

(http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/6214/evo5uo.jpg)

peace!!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: zakkaz on Feb 01, 2006 at 10:47 AM
Mga Sir.....Contact info ng stores that sells Wharfedale Pacific Evo Series10 Bookshelf ..maraming salamat.

(http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/6214/evo5uo.jpg)

peace!!!!
Sir sa spectra meron sila located sa parksquare 1 8185493
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Assassin101 on Feb 01, 2006 at 04:32 PM
kayang kaya bro...


thanks! just got my pre-owned 8.4 n 8cs. sound really great. wow heaven.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: juneaki on Mar 23, 2006 at 04:15 PM
Is it true that sandfilling will enhance the sound of a speaker? For example a Diamond 8.3? Anybody has actual experience on sandfilling their speakers? What's the effect?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ProtegeManiac on May 11, 2006 at 08:13 AM
anyone tried using "dark" or "warm" IC's wih the 8.1's, and one with a more "dynamic" sound? mine's a little thin, had significant improvement when I bi-wired but Im looking for a little bit more bass response (or Im probably comparing it to my car's, which means Im comparing oranges to apples?).

of course I don't want both these cables to be over P200/m since I'd want one of each so I'd be able to test them both and see which one i like.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: qguy on May 11, 2006 at 11:10 AM
yes your comparing apples and oranges - just look at the size of the room and the car

bass response, I dont think any cable no matter how expensive will improve the bass performance of any system, try positioning the 8.1 nearer the walls or corners or get a larger loudspeaker or add a sub


anyone tried using "dark" or "warm" IC's wih the 8.1's, and one with a more "dynamic" sound? mine's a little thin, had significant improvement when I bi-wired but Im looking for a little bit more bass response (or Im probably comparing it to my car's, which means Im comparing oranges to apples?).

of course I don't want both these cables to be over P200/m since I'd want one of each so I'd be able to test them both and see which one i like.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ProtegeManiac on May 11, 2006 at 04:12 PM
yes your comparing apples and oranges - just look at the size of the room and the car

bass response, I dont think any cable no matter how expensive will improve the bass performance of any system, try positioning the 8.1 nearer the walls or corners or get a larger loudspeaker or add a sub



Thanks. I thought atfirst that all the tuning features on the Alpine HU were necessary since the car is a less ideal environment than a (non-rectangular) room, plus the car's noisefloor and the specifically designed speaker enclosure vs. car doors.

I was already using a sub, a few minutes ago I played around with the gain and got a little bit more punch, took a few minutes before I got rid of the unwanted extensions. the midrange was still noticeably thin when I switched the system off yesterday, and even this morning, but by now (after 5 hours) it's warmed up a little. probably just needed a little break-in/warm-up time. :)

the reason why I asked about hte cables was because my installer was telling me about a car he was working on where the owner added a meter of Dutch wire (I can't recall, but I remember the name SOUNDED like a dutch name) to the generic rca to the amp. the bass response wasn't "louder", but its perceivd to be so because the high freq roll-off was a little lower than usual. they actually had to reverse most of the tweeter tuning (attenuation level, EQ, etc).
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: juneaki on May 18, 2006 at 07:59 AM
Mga bro, newbie question lang po: Diamond 8.3 is a 6 ohms speaker, if bi-wired ano po ang magiging effective impedance nito? Will it be the same at 6 ohms?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: bumblebee on May 18, 2006 at 08:03 AM
Mga bro, newbie question lang po: Diamond 8.3 is a 6 ohms speaker, if bi-wired ano po ang magiging effective impedance nito? Will it be the same at 6 ohms?

Yes.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: juneaki on May 22, 2006 at 08:30 AM
Thanks bumblebee. I was apprehensive kasi na baka di kayanin ng Denon PMA 920 (acquired 2nd hand from a fellow PDVD member) ko yung 8.3 kung bababa pa sa 6 ohms ang impedance kung i-bi-wire ko. So i hooked it (the 8.3) to the PMA 920 at ang ganda palang tumunog ng 8.3 kung mabibigyan ng tamang power amplification. The lows and the highs are perfect, sarap pakinggan lalo na kung i-enhance mo by adding activ subwoofer. What i can say is . . . wow! Ngayon ko lang na-appreciate ang speaker na ito (8.3).
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: lakambini on Jun 15, 2006 at 11:21 AM
Fellow diamond8 users,

Anyone tried comparing the sound of diamond 8 to the newer 9s?  Is it true that the 9 series has a wider soundstage than the 8s?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Speaker Doctor on Jul 11, 2006 at 02:20 PM
sirs,

tanong ko lang kung meron kayong alam na mabibilhan ng tweeter para sa 8.1.  Nagtanong na ako sa country distributor, authorized service center & a/v shops selling wharfs products pero wala daw.  ??? ??? ???

thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: av_phile1 on Jul 11, 2006 at 04:31 PM
That's odd.  The local distributer or service center should have replacement tweeters for the products they carry.  Whether under warranty or outside.  Reminds me of my plaint with 5th Ave's Mordaunt Short speakers.  They had to order the drivers from England yet and have it shipped from China. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: spectraav on Jul 12, 2006 at 01:27 PM
sirs,

tanong ko lang kung meron kayong alam na mabibilhan ng tweeter para sa 8.1.  Nagtanong na ako sa country distributor, authorized service center & a/v shops selling wharfs products pero wala daw.  ??? ??? ???

thanks
sir meron po sila stock ng tweeter ng 8.1
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: alz on Jul 12, 2006 at 07:14 PM
Nka-order ako ng tweeter sa sights and sound Shangri-la, Hindi ko pa nakukuha pero sabi nila 500php daw each...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: skylynx888 on Jul 12, 2006 at 09:31 PM
ok lang kaya gawing surrounds ang 8.3? ??? ???
comments are welcome........
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: aHobbit on Jul 13, 2006 at 06:02 PM
ok lang kaya gawing surrounds ang 8.3? ??? ???
comments are welcome........

bakit hindi 8.4, o 9.6?  :o  :o

 ;D  ;D  ;D

bakit hindi?  8)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: atomicat10 on Jul 14, 2006 at 08:42 PM
I use 8.3 for surrounds it was a cheaper alternative for me coz I don't have to buy stands and at the same time bagay na bagay sa 8.4 maple ko but sound remains to be priceless specially on music dvds but recently I appreciated it also on movies kasi dapat pala very capable din ang surrounds because as a lot of us can observe a lot of the surround effects are quite harsh and demanding sounds na will make a cheap surround spkr sound...well...cheap.

Question: Are there wharfedale Diamond 8 speakers which are (native) made in England o lahat made in China?

My 8.4 have the label made in China at the back but my 8.3 doesn't have them nakalagay lang England. ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: skylynx888 on Jul 14, 2006 at 10:34 PM
  Thanks for the infos  :), binenta ko na kc wh2 surrounds ko, naisip ko lang na instead of upgrading my surrounds, ang gawin ko na lang e move my fronts [wharf 8.3] and make them as my rear surrounds, and scout for new front speakers  ;D ;D ;D.  Currently my HT room is under construction, and the room size is approximately 4.5 by 5 meters.
 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: atomicat10 on Jul 15, 2006 at 06:22 PM
nice decision.

ask ko lang kung made in england ba 8.3 mo? I had 8.4 thrice all made in china but my 8.3 lacks the made in china sticker.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: skylynx888 on Jul 15, 2006 at 07:14 PM
nice decision.

ask ko lang kung made in england ba 8.3 mo? I had 8.4 thrice all made in china but my 8.3 lacks the made in china sticker.

   nakapatong yun  "Made in China" sticker sa nakaprint na Made in England  ??? ???, been using it for almost three years na. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jdg on Aug 09, 2006 at 02:01 PM
anyone knows the current prices of these speakers? btw ok ba ito i pair sa yamaha RX-V357? tnx!

diamond 8.3
diamond 8.4
diamond 8 DFS
diamond 8 Centre
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ericag_ph on Aug 10, 2006 at 09:45 AM
8.4 = P8500
8 DFS = P4500 to P5500
8 Centre = P4500 I think

anyone knows the current prices of these speakers? btw ok ba ito i pair sa yamaha RX-V357? tnx!

diamond 8.3
diamond 8.4
diamond 8 DFS
diamond 8 Centre
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: jdg on Aug 10, 2006 at 10:56 AM
ok na ba yung ganitong set up 8.2 pang front and 8.1 pang surround?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: atomicat10 on Aug 10, 2006 at 08:35 PM
ok na ba yung ganitong set up 8.2 pang front and 8.1 pang surround?

8.4 sa fronts then either the 8.1 or 8.2 sa surrounds.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ericag_ph on Aug 11, 2006 at 12:45 PM
Here's my 8.4 setup: 
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=55046.0

Between 8.1 and 8.2...
I suggest 8.1 (these should sound better) for front rather than 8.2
then 8.DFS for rear rather than 8.1 for rear.

ok na ba yung ganitong set up 8.2 pang front and 8.1 pang surround?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Miguel^ on Aug 11, 2006 at 01:03 PM
anybody know where I can get the 8.4's for cheap?     




or if anybody wants to let go of their pair PM me.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: atomicat10 on Aug 11, 2006 at 10:39 PM
Already sold 2 pairs of these and I currently own one pair pa rin (maple kasi trip ko)

Check out the black pair sold at the b&s section, it's for 6k bnew condish daw. Good luck!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: Miguel^ on Aug 13, 2006 at 10:14 PM
@atomic

sayang nga ung sa b&s naunahan ako. Oh well abangers mode uli. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: atomicat10 on Aug 15, 2006 at 06:41 PM
Oo nga sayang :(

Anyway if you get one make sure that you'll pick a a surround speaker which can handle the bass well. If you can get another tower good but a 9.1 can do better than any DFS.

Some surround effects specially on concert dvds carry intense bass that will sound garbled on speakers not designed for music.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: masterjericho on Oct 25, 2006 at 08:25 AM

hmm balak ko pa naman 8.3 as my sorrounds  ??? . may need to check that DFS.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: masterjericho on Oct 31, 2006 at 05:04 PM

 ;D malapit na bonus!!!

parang magkaka SARS ata ako...  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: [r0n1n] on Oct 31, 2006 at 05:54 PM
;D malapit na bonus!!!

parang magkaka SARS ata ako...  ;)

mag diamond 9 ka na kasi, laki laki sweldo mo eh  ;D  :P :D ;) wala na ata diamond 8 (correct me if im wrong) unless old new stock or sa second hand market

btw, kelan ba bonus natin?  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: masterjericho on Nov 06, 2006 at 12:30 PM
@r0n1n

basta dis november heheh  ;D

gusto ko nga sana eh kaso sayang yun 8.4 ko... nde ko lam kung timber match sya kung mag 9 center saka surround ako...

meron pa namang b/n na 8... by order nga lang daw  :'( ... but am also waiting sa b n s section.

ika nga, someone's gold would be another one's diamonds.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: markmlists on Jan 13, 2007 at 03:12 PM
To anyone with an 8.3/8.4, may I kindly request for a pic of the original spikes the set came with? PM would be fine. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ProtegeManiac on Apr 06, 2007 at 07:45 AM
just acquired an 8.4 this week, and I noticed yesterday that the speaker cone surrounds are inverted... is it really like this? my old 8.1's had the usual surrounds. I don't hear anything wrong with the sound (normal staging so can't have phase issues, strong enough lows I don;t even hook up my sub anymore) but if this isn't normal then I'm missing out on something, right?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: ProtegeManiac on Apr 09, 2007 at 09:42 PM
^ up
Title: Re:Wharfedale Diamond 8's
Post by: LETOR on Aug 04, 2012 at 08:55 PM
nad integrateds and a diamond 8.1 sounds real good ;)

sir, are you still having this set-up for music listening? by the way I am using also D8.1 with Rotel Integrated amp for several years already for music listening too. am happy with it...