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Title: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: Ibosotts on Oct 05, 2012 at 06:48 PM
Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog  using dac . how can i configure it ? Thanks
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: G-Racer on Oct 05, 2012 at 06:57 PM
Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog  using dac . how can i configure it ? Thanks

Do you have HDMI in your laptop?
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: Ibosotts on Oct 06, 2012 at 01:40 AM
yes with hdmi... and i will use usb dac for audio analog and hooking it onkyo 809 thanks
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: G-Racer on Oct 06, 2012 at 01:44 AM
yes with hdmi... and i will use usb dac for audio analog and hooking it onkyo 809 thanks

Then all solved. Thats exactly how my laptop is connected...
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: Ibosotts on Oct 11, 2012 at 10:35 PM
mga guro ang problema ayaw madetect ng 809 via hdmi ang dolby at dts sound pero ok naman vdeo nya thanks
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: Courage on Oct 11, 2012 at 11:17 PM
mga guro ang problema ayaw madetect ng 809 via hdmi ang dolby at dts sound pero ok naman vdeo nya thanks

What player are you using for your laptop?
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: Ibosotts on Oct 12, 2012 at 12:31 AM
Sir window media player lang po,
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 12, 2012 at 08:23 AM
Try to update your player with the latest codecs.  Or better yet try another media player like Splash Pro or MPC-HC assuming that you have already configured the audio settings in the control panel to output DD/DTS via HDMI. 
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: gunslinger on Oct 12, 2012 at 08:52 AM
^+1 WMP is limited in terms of codecs especially downloaded files. I encountered the same problem before when I tried using my netbook as media player. But once you get it right, it becomes a very versatile player especially if it comes with a remote.
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: Ibosotts on Oct 12, 2012 at 11:16 AM
 O0 salamat po ng marami sa mga guru na nag replay lahat po ng sugestion ginawa ko okey na po thanks ulit O0 Next Problem anong Usb Dac Ang okey sa laptop ko thanks. yong medyo pang mid entry lang. ok po ba yonng musiland.
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: Stagea on Oct 16, 2012 at 06:16 AM
O0 salamat po ng marami sa mga guru na nag replay lahat po ng sugestion ginawa ko okey na po thanks ulit O0 Next Problem anong Usb Dac Ang okey sa laptop ko thanks. yong medyo pang mid entry lang. ok po ba yonng musiland.

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Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: Ibosotts on Oct 16, 2012 at 01:38 PM
 :DThank you sir :D
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: rhodem24 on Oct 16, 2012 at 04:31 PM
Try to use XMBC sir... Then set the audio settings to HDMI. I'm using my HD 4850 (DVI-HDMI adapter). It can decode DTS and Dolby formats.
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: Ibosotts on Oct 16, 2012 at 10:46 PM
Try to use XMBC sir... Then set the audio settings to HDMI. I'm using my HD 4850 (DVI-HDMI adapter). It can decode DTS and Dolby formats.
salamat sir
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: warmaster on Oct 16, 2012 at 10:57 PM
hindi ba redundant na kung gagamit ka pa ng USB DAC kung 809 AVR naman ang gamit? just saying kasi may built-in DAC na yung 809 when using digital inputs (optical, hdmi & coaxial). eto yung DAC niya TI Burr-Brown 192 kHz/24-Bit DACs (PCM1690) for All Channels
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: Courage on Oct 17, 2012 at 12:07 AM
hindi ba redundant na kung gagamit ka pa ng USB DAC kung 809 AVR naman ang gamit? just saying kasi may built-in DAC na yung 809 when using digital inputs (optical, hdmi & coaxial). eto yung DAC niya TI Burr-Brown 192 kHz/24-Bit DACs (PCM1690) for All Channels

Actually halos lahat naman nang source may DAC...DVD, CD, NMT, Laptop and mga AVR's. Yung quality kasi will depend on how good the DAC is, specially in Music... Like in my Case, yung yamaha ko meron ding DAC na capable of 24/192 but i still use an external DAC for music applilcation, simply because in my Ears mas gumada sa 2 channel music when using an external DAC vs using the DAC of the AVR...
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: warmaster on Oct 17, 2012 at 12:20 AM
that burr brown PCM1690 is, IMO, already a top notch chip. so unless you're going to use a really high end dedicated external DAC i'd say just use the AVR as it is. but if i were to feed it to an analog stereo amp, then that would be a different story  ;D

but ofcourse kung saan ka mas enjoy yun naman ang importante. right now kasi, mas praktikal na lang ako sa buhay  ;)
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: Stagea on Oct 17, 2012 at 12:26 AM
that burr brown PCM1690 is, IMO, already a top notch chip. so unless you're going to use a really high end dedicated external DAC i'd say just use the AVR as it is. but if i were to feed it to an analog stereo amp, then that would be a different story  ;D

but ofcourse kung saan ka mas enjoy yun naman ang importante. right now kasi, mas praktikal na lang ako sa buhay  ;)

The DAC chip is only a small fraction of the equation when selecting a DAC. The same chip in different DAC implementations will perform very differently.

Though I do agree na check muna if the onboard one is good enough for the person's needs. Tutal libre na yun eh. If ever bibili ng iba, subukan muna if it'd make an improvement sa target system.
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: warmaster on Oct 17, 2012 at 07:24 AM
or TS can invite PDVD peeps over to his place and bring their external DACs para ma test niya sa system niya  ;)

may audio session ka na may new friends ka pa in the process  ;D
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: Courage on Oct 17, 2012 at 10:28 AM
or TS can invite PDVD peeps over to his place and bring their external DACs para ma test niya sa system niya  ;)

may audio session ka na may new friends ka pa in the process  ;D

+1 he he he
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: Ibosotts on Nov 01, 2012 at 03:26 AM
ok bumili na ako Dac sa what HiFi ... Musiland.... Ok ang Match sa system lumabas ang mids at high at naging claro ang vocals... Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: Stagea on Nov 01, 2012 at 09:14 AM
ok bumili na ako Dac sa what HiFi ... Musiland.... Ok ang Match sa system lumabas ang mids at high at naging claro ang vocals... Thanks a lot.

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Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: RadioPhono on Nov 08, 2012 at 06:53 AM
anong software player ang gamit pag dts at dd. master audio ang file. ang pwede sa musiland dac. thanks
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: miccollo on Nov 08, 2012 at 07:19 AM
Mga sir,

Does anyone here use or know how to use their laptops as htpc for 3D movie?

I'm thinking if I can go this way as I plan my projector setup.

Thanks


Miccollo
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: gunslinger on Nov 08, 2012 at 08:08 AM
Look for the Acer Projector thread. Most of them used HTPC for 3D viewing.
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: Stagea on Nov 10, 2012 at 05:25 AM
Mga sir,

Does anyone here use or know how to use their laptops as htpc for 3D movie?

I'm thinking if I can go this way as I plan my projector setup.

Thanks


Miccollo

This is very doable with the right computer and software.
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 10, 2012 at 06:27 AM
Mga sir,

Does anyone here use or know how to use their laptops as htpc for 3D movie?

I'm thinking if I can go this way as I plan my projector setup.

Thanks


Miccollo

Use powerdvd for the 3D bluray viewing.  ^-^ ^-^ ^-^
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: rhodem24 on Nov 10, 2012 at 02:38 PM
Pwede po ba 3D movie pero hindi 3D yung tv?
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: sdliddo on Nov 21, 2012 at 06:33 AM
Mga sir. Question lang po since I plan to buy a new entry level lang na home theater setup. Tanong ko lang po eh kung kakayanin ba ng laptop ko na maging HTPC set? Gamit ko eh installed CCCP codec with the mediaplayer na kasam niya. HDMI gamit ko sa laptop. Asus L43SJ laptop.

http://ph.asus.com/Notebooks/Versatile_Performance/K43SJ/

Just need to know kung yung audio ng mga movies ko will pass through and be recognized by the a/v reciever? Sayang naman tong mga 1080p movies ko kung eh lalabas lang eh puro stereo lang.

I am thinking of actually bringing my laptop over to the place I plan to check up on some receivers. Pero I thought to ask muna here.

Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: Stagea on Nov 21, 2012 at 06:38 AM
Mga sir. Question lang po since I plan to buy a new entry level lang na home theater setup. Tanong ko lang po eh kung kakayanin ba ng laptop ko na maging HTPC set? Gamit ko eh installed CCCP codec with the mediaplayer na kasam niya. HDMI gamit ko sa laptop. Asus L43SJ laptop.

http://ph.asus.com/Notebooks/Versatile_Performance/K43SJ/

Just need to know kung yung audio ng mga movies ko will pass through and be recognized by the a/v reciever? Sayang naman tong mga 1080p movies ko kung eh lalabas lang eh puro stereo lang.

I am thinking of actually bringing my laptop over to the place I plan to check up on some receivers. Pero I thought to ask muna here.



That notebook should work.
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: sdliddo on Nov 21, 2012 at 06:48 AM
I guess medyo malabo yung question ko po.

I am more concerned po ako sa audio decoding really. I understand that the CCCP audio codecs handle the decoding of the audio portion of a movie.

Question ko po is kung DTS yung audio stream ng movie... eh will the a/v receiver properly recognize it? I hear some saying na yung HDMI will automatically pass through to the receiver therefore allowing the receiver to decode the audio stream.

I know I am missing something in how the whole thing works pero bottom line is i want to be sure that kung 5.1 o DTS o HD-DTS yung audio source eh the av receiver will recognize it without me having to buy any extra equipment.
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: Stagea on Nov 21, 2012 at 07:26 AM
I guess medyo malabo yung question ko po.

I am more concerned po ako sa audio decoding really. I understand that the CCCP audio codecs handle the decoding of the audio portion of a movie.

Question ko po is kung DTS yung audio stream ng movie... eh will the a/v receiver properly recognize it? I hear some saying na yung HDMI will automatically pass through to the receiver therefore allowing the receiver to decode the audio stream.

I know I am missing something in how the whole thing works pero bottom line is i want to be sure that kung 5.1 o DTS o HD-DTS yung audio source eh the av receiver will recognize it without me having to buy any extra equipment.

If you use a player that can pass-thru the audio bitstream, you should be fine. Otherwise, you would have to configure your audio codec to do so. No extra hardware is necessary.
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: Ibosotts on Nov 21, 2012 at 12:18 PM
+ 10 ako i download the  CCCP audio codecs and work like magic on my laptop using MPC.Na decode nya dd at dts sound. Im using  onkyo 809.
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: sdliddo on Nov 22, 2012 at 12:14 AM
Na-test ko yung Yamaha RX-V467 along with a 5.1 speaker setup na  Mordaunt Short. Di ko natanong maiigi anong model ng speakers pero the whole setup was interesting.

Seems na configure ko lang yung HDMI setup ng laptop to play at 5.1 surround eh it played nicely on the reciever. Pansin ko nga lang na on the reciever, I couldn't even cycle through the surround setups. Naka STRAIGHT lang siya.

From the way it looks. CCCP audio codec or maybe even the HDMI configuration of the laptop was responsible for decoding the audio stream and simply instructed yung reciever to play it as 5.1. Honestly wala naman ako masyadong alam sa home theater setup and given na I usually just buy entry level stuff, I am thinking na pwede na siguro ito.

Anyone have suggestions on a build? I am trying to setup a home theater with around only 50k to play with.
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: Ibosotts on Nov 22, 2012 at 05:13 AM
sa reciever hunting ka sa market place ang daming brand  na ka post pwede mo pang iudition.
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: Verbl Kint on Nov 22, 2012 at 08:01 AM
Na-test ko yung Yamaha RX-V467 along with a 5.1 speaker setup na  Mordaunt Short. Di ko natanong maiigi anong model ng speakers pero the whole setup was interesting.

Seems na configure ko lang yung HDMI setup ng laptop to play at 5.1 surround eh it played nicely on the reciever. Pansin ko nga lang na on the reciever, I couldn't even cycle through the surround setups. Naka STRAIGHT lang siya.

From the way it looks. CCCP audio codec or maybe even the HDMI configuration of the laptop was responsible for decoding the audio stream and simply instructed yung reciever to play it as 5.1. Honestly wala naman ako masyadong alam sa home theater setup and given na I usually just buy entry level stuff, I am thinking na pwede na siguro ito.

Anyone have suggestions on a build? I am trying to setup a home theater with around only 50k to play with.

Puwede na yang set up mo.  Software at configurations lang ang kailangan.

What type of file are you playing? 
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: gunslinger on Nov 22, 2012 at 08:24 AM
Baka kayang sagutin dito para hindi na ako gagawa ng separate post.

I have a 5.1 multimedia speakers that was used before on a desktop. I want to try using it with my laptop but I don't know what to buy to be able to use all the channels on the multimedi speaker. It has 3 inputs(3.5mm) at the back of the sub for front, center and rear. Kaso yung laptop has only 1 (3.5mm) output. I use this currently for stereo listening in my bedroom (using front input)but looking for ways to maximize the speakers since the center and rear are just kept in storage.
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: Stagea on Nov 22, 2012 at 08:40 AM
Baka kayang sagutin dito para hindi na ako gagawa ng separate post.

I have a 5.1 multimedia speakers that was used before on a desktop. I want to try using it with my laptop but I don't know what to buy to be able to use all the channels on the multimedi speaker. It has 3 inputs(3.5mm) at the back of the sub for front, center and rear. Kaso yung laptop has only 1 (3.5mm) output. I use this currently for stereo listening in my bedroom (using front input)but looking for ways to maximize the speakers since the center and rear are just kept in storage.

External sound card po (normally connected via USB). How much are you willing to spend?

Encore ENMAB-8CM ata ang cheapest solution at 990 pesos. Creative and other brands meron din.
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: gunslinger on Nov 22, 2012 at 09:04 AM
Thanks sir Stagea. No idea on the budget for now. But i guess the soundcard solution will only limit the use to a laptop. What if i want to extend the use to a cd player/dvd player or a portable music player? Are there options that can utilize a 3.5mm input or RCA input with the 3 (3.5mm) output that can be connected to the multimedia speaker? 

TIA.
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: Stagea on Nov 22, 2012 at 09:17 AM
Thanks sir Stagea. No idea on the budget for now. But i guess the soundcard solution will only limit the use to a laptop. What if i want to extend the use to a cd player/dvd player or a portable music player? Are there options that can utilize a 3.5mm input or RCA input with the 3 (3.5mm) output that can be connected to the multimedia speaker? 

TIA.

Portable music players generally don't output multichannel surround, unless you have an external decoder. A dedicated pre-pro might cost more than a proper AV receiver.

What speakers are these anyway?
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: gunslinger on Nov 22, 2012 at 09:24 AM
I think the brand is Labtec. Used to be midlevel during its day. Just looking for ways on how to re-use instead of keeping it in storage. Helps with WAF in getting new gears since the old ones are put to use in other areas.

This was connected before with a desktop rig for gaming.
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 22, 2012 at 09:47 AM
Mga sir. Question lang po since I plan to buy a new entry level lang na home theater setup. Tanong ko lang po eh kung kakayanin ba ng laptop ko na maging HTPC set? Gamit ko eh installed CCCP codec with the mediaplayer na kasam niya. HDMI gamit ko sa laptop. Asus L43SJ laptop.

http://ph.asus.com/Notebooks/Versatile_Performance/K43SJ/

Just need to know kung yung audio ng mga movies ko will pass through and be recognized by the a/v reciever? Sayang naman tong mga 1080p movies ko kung eh lalabas lang eh puro stereo lang.

I am thinking of actually bringing my laptop over to the place I plan to check up on some receivers. Pero I thought to ask muna here.



Try to use splash pro player and via HDMI pass through ng audio mo no codec is needed. ^_^
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: Stagea on Nov 22, 2012 at 11:10 AM
I think the brand is Labtec. Used to be midlevel during its day. Just looking for ways on how to re-use instead of keeping it in storage. Helps with WAF in getting new gears since the old ones are put to use in other areas.

This was connected before with a desktop rig for gaming.

Connecting it to a DVD player with multichannel outs isn't ideal because you won't have time alignment. A CD player will only use 2 of its channels (does it have internal bass management or not?).

I suggest using it for its intended purpose (PC speakers).
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: gunslinger on Nov 23, 2012 at 08:06 AM
You maybe right. I tried connecting it last night to a cheap dvd player that has a multi channel out. Using RCA to 3.5mm adaptors, I was able to connect the multi media speakers. It sounded fine but the panning was awful. will just keep it for stereo listening now.
Title: Re: Laptop as htpc and Audio source analog
Post by: Stagea on Nov 23, 2012 at 09:54 AM
You maybe right. I tried connecting it last night to a cheap dvd player that has a multi channel out. Using RCA to 3.5mm adaptors, I was able to connect the multi media speakers. It sounded fine but the panning was awful. will just keep it for stereo listening now.

That's the problem. Higher end players often do have time alignment and bass management, but they cost a little more than the usual ones.