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Home Theater => Sources => HTPCs => Topic started by: jrcrunch on Aug 14, 2013 at 08:28 PM
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i want to have a media server at home so my family members wont bug me anymore when they want to copy/borrow movies my hard drive and i have set up everything in their rooms
looking at this device?
http://www.zyxel.com/products_services/nsa325.shtml?t=p
or should i just make my own but the problem i dont know how or maybe baka mura and doable naman
i want it to be accessed in all rooms thru wireless but hoping the movie quality wont suffer and wont stutter
was also looking at this device too
http://www.zyxel.com/products_services/pla4201.shtml?t=p
thanks
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sir, ive been using the etrayz for 4 years na ata, wala naman akong naging problema kaya lang max of 2 hdd's lang at 2tb each, baka mabitin ka, kung medyo marami kang movies i suggest gawa ka na lang sir madami naman free software for servers
kung puro hd videos ang ii-stream kailangan mag setup ng wired network
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sir, ive been using the etrayz for 4 years na ata, wala naman akong naging problema kaya lang max of 2 hdd's lang at 2tb each, baka mabitin ka, kung medyo marami kang movies i suggest gawa ka na lang sir madami naman free software for servers
kung puro hd videos ang ii-stream kailangan mag setup ng wired network
thanks for the rep. kaya thinking of using a powerline para hindi na wired ang network. any feedback on powerline? 500mbps daw data transfer
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nagtanong ako noon... regarding powerlines dito sa pdvd.. hindi daw ok yung ganun.. lalo na pag magkahiwalay ng breaker...
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nagtanong ako noon... regarding powerlines dito sa pdvd.. hindi daw ok yung ganun.. lalo na pag magkahiwalay ng breaker...
sorry sir medyo newbie ako sa ganito. hindi ko gets. i couldnt find any post about here dito sa pdvd. salamat
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@jrcrunch
Gaano ba kalaki yung collection mo? If malaki talaga why not build a windows server then lagyan mo madami HDD via gigabit network mo share.
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3TB sir.
are you familiar with mga hotel ppv. gusto ko maduplicate yun para hindi na ako kulitin ng fam members ko sa kakahiram ng movies sa akin haha.
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3TB sir.
are you familiar with mga hotel ppv. gusto ko maduplicate yun para hindi na ako kulitin ng fam members ko sa kakahiram ng movies sa akin haha.
May software and hardware ata sila na gamit jan chief. Pay per view yan di ba?
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i want to have a media server at home so my family members wont bug me anymore when they want to copy/borrow movies my hard drive and i have set up everything in their rooms
looking at this device?
http://www.zyxel.com/products_services/nsa325.shtml?t=p
or should i just make my own but the problem i dont know how or maybe baka mura and doable naman
i want it to be accessed in all rooms thru wireless but hoping the movie quality wont suffer and wont stutter
was also looking at this device too
http://www.zyxel.com/products_services/pla4201.shtml?t=p
thanks
ZyXEL makes good powerline adapters, but the performance varies depending on your home wiring. If you're using them, plug them straight to the wall (no surge protector, extension cord, etc.).
They can usually jump across circuit breakers as long as the home has good wiring. They are sometimes affected by ground fault interrupters (if you have them) and shunt filters, however.
The 600Mbps "Gigabit" powerline adapters perform a little better than the 500Mbps counterparts and take advantage of home grounding (if you have it) by sending signals using all three prongs.
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May software and hardware ata sila na gamit jan chief. Pay per view yan di ba?
i want parang same experience ng ppv na walang bayad sa each room sa house. ako lang kasi marunong magsetup sa family. medyo hindi techie mga fam members ko at ako na yung medyo may alam hehe.
im doing this for my own convenience and theirs na din.
i want to achieve is that every room can access the hard drive from my room and play hd movies- parang yung sa mga hotels na ppv but eto of course libre :)
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ZyXEL makes good powerline adapters, but the performance varies depending on your home wiring. If you're using them, plug them straight to the wall (no surge protector, extension cord, etc.).
They can usually jump across circuit breakers as long as the home has good wiring. They are sometimes affected by ground fault interrupters (if you have them) and shunt filters, however.
The 600Mbps "Gigabit" powerline adapters perform a little better than the 500Mbps counterparts and take advantage of home grounding (if you have it) by sending signals using all three prongs.
hi sir, thanks for the rep. my movies are 8-25gb. will wireless N be enough to stream these files? our house is quite old na din so better if i have a transformer each powerline? tama ba?
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hi sir, thanks for the rep. my movies are 8-25gb. will wireless N be enough to stream these files? our house is quite old na din so better if i have a transformer each powerline? tama ba?
hindi kakayanin ng wireless n ang hd files sir, kailangan talaga ng wired network. and hindi rin sir ibig sabihin na pag wired na network mo e wala ng stutter, it will also depend on the server and the hdd's in the server.
btw, what will they be using in watching? laptop/notebook? htpc? or media player?
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hindi kakayanin ng wireless n ang hd files sir, kailangan talaga ng wired network. and hindi rin sir ibig sabihin na pag wired na network mo e wala ng stutter, it will also depend on the server and the hdd's in the server.
btw, what will they be using in watching? laptop/notebook? htpc? or media player?
they'll be watching from their media player connected sa tvs nila on their own room all connected sa hard drive sa room ko :)
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I think you need a high transfer rate na router. I tried streaming a 10G movie from the pc to the ps3 using a belkin entry level router grabe ang lag. pero yung mga 2G ok naman. kaya na wired ako.
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hi sir, thanks for the rep. my movies are 8-25gb. will wireless N be enough to stream these files? our house is quite old na din so better if i have a transformer each powerline? tama ba?
Don't use a transformer as it will attenuate the signal dramatically. Plug the device straight to the wall as much as possible.
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I think you need a high transfer rate na router. I tried streaming a 10G movie from the pc to the ps3 using a belkin entry level router grabe ang lag. pero yung mga 2G ok naman. kaya na wired ako.
Saka minsan kaya pag one stream lang pero pag nagsabay gumamit saka nagkakaproblem. There are some compelling 802.11ac solutions.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/wi-fi-802.11ac-router,3386-17.html (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/wi-fi-802.11ac-router,3386-17.html)
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Dapat talaga wired with gigabit ethernet and CAT6 lan cbales.
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gusto ko din yung balak ni sir jcrunch... balak ko din bumili wifiN... wifiG parin kasi ako sa house.. wala din pala maitutulong wifiN... hehe wifiAC di ko pa afford.. kaya naba ng wifiAC? hindi din ako willing ipon 10k for router e.. abangers nalang bumaba price.. hehe
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this is my planned setup if hindi nyo maintindihan or sorry malabo ako magexplain
the hard drive will be at my room and everyone at home can access from my hard drive via network pero sana wireless
all rooms have media players and can choose what movies to watch from network linked to my hard drive. movies i have have are 8gb -30gb pala
what is important it can play 1080p movies w/o stutter. sana at least 2 tvs can play movies at the same time with different movies. so ang experience parang ppv ng hotels pero libre kasi sa bahay :)
--- so far it seems wired is the way to go. gigabit ethernet ata kailangan.
many thanks sa mga nagrep. laking ginahawa to if magawa natin to hehe. wala na magkukulet sa akin magplay ng movies sa room nila
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this is my planned setup if hindi nyo maintindihan or sorry malabo ako magexplain
the hard drive will be at my room and everyone at home can access from my hard drive via network pero sana wireless
all rooms have media players and can choose what movies to watch from network linked to my hard drive. movies i have have are 8gb -30gb pala
what is important it can play 1080p movies w/o stutter. sana at least 2 tvs can play movies at the same time with different movies. so ang experience parang ppv ng hotels pero libre kasi sa bahay :)
--- so far it seems wired is the way to go. gigabit ethernet ata kailangan.
many thanks sa mga nagrep. laking ginahawa to if magawa natin to hehe. wala na magkukulet sa akin magplay ng movies sa room nila
What server you will use? Or will you setup NAS? I doubt kakayanin ng wireless lalo na simultaneous puwedeng 2 or 3 or more pa ang gagamit ng connectivity since all room is connected on the said server. You need a HDD for NAS like WD RED i don't know kung kakayanin ng WD Green ang ganyan setup. ;) ;)
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What server you will use? Or will you setup NAS? I doubt kakayanin ng wireless lalo na simultaneous puwedeng 2 or 3 or more pa ang gagamit ng connectivity since all room is connected on the said server. You need a HDD for NAS like WD RED i don't know kung kakayanin ng WD Green ang ganyan setup. ;) ;)
di ko alam sir. ano advice nyo? hehe. honestly not in a hurry to do this. puro research muna para sure ako sa tamang bibilihin ko na gamit especially sa november ang black friday. we are moving to a new house hopefully next year para mapahanda ko to and in case wired ang only way to go mapaayus ko na sa electrician para malinis tingnan :)
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eto sir mamili ka, pwedeng 2, 4, 5 bays etc..
http://www.qnap.com/en/index.php?lang=en&sn=822&c=351&sc=514&t=522
pwede rin Synology, yan gamit ko 5 bays...
http://www.synology.com/products/index.php?lang=enu
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di ko alam sir. ano advice nyo? hehe. honestly not in a hurry to do this. puro research muna para sure ako sa tamang bibilihin ko na gamit especially sa november ang black friday. we are moving to a new house hopefully next year para mapahanda ko to and in case wired ang only way to go mapaayus ko na sa electrician para malinis tingnan :)
Dapat pawired mo na nothing beat wired lalo na video streaming. Gamumit ka ng original Panduit na CAT 6 to support the gigabit connection. Get the best router that you can avail na gigabit na. Yung wireless mo pang internet na lang. Isa pa yung you will stream video via wifi plus yung internet mo pa via wifi din magcocongest yan for sure. I suggest get a NAS or build a computer that can accomodate a lot of HDD. If you go NAS get Synology as this NAS is expandables pag lumaki ang collection mo medyo pricey nga lang. ;) ;)
Main NAS Synology DS1513 can expand to 2x Synology DX513. ;D ;D
(http://www.synology.com/products/img/products/ds1513+_index_bottom.jpg)
Puwede din 8 bay agad. >:D >:D
Synology DiskStation 8-Bay DS1813+
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/417wolQU1xL.jpg)
Yung Synology can be also act as a download station so mga new downloads mo will be directly save sa NAS.
eto sir mamili ka, pwedeng 2, 4, 5 bays etc..
http://www.qnap.com/en/index.php?lang=en&sn=822&c=351&sc=514&t=522
pwede rin Synology, yan gamit ko 5 bays...
http://www.synology.com/products/index.php?lang=enu
Mas like ko Synology than Qnap. >:D >:D
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Luma na pala yung sakin...hehehe..may DS1513+ na...Mapupuno na nga yung 15TB ko..ano ba yan..ipon na para sa expansion bay DX513 plus 20TB na hard disk...wossshhh...waldas na naman brader...hahaha
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What server you will use? Or will you setup NAS? I doubt kakayanin ng wireless lalo na simultaneous puwedeng 2 or 3 or more pa ang gagamit ng connectivity since all room is connected on the said server. You need a HDD for NAS like WD RED i don't know kung kakayanin ng WD Green ang ganyan setup. ;) ;)
im using green, there are files na nag i-stutter/lag sa 100mbps network, so sometimes i end up copying a certain movie sa usb then kabit na lang sa media player, nasa mga 4gb lang na file yun sir, what more sa 8gb up :)
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If going the NAS route, go for WD Red for better performance since optimized sya for server.
Suggestion:
Synology with WD Red wired to Airport Extreme Base Station on your room
Airport Express wired connected to media player on every other room getting signal from the Base Station.
Access files via UPnP.
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why synology mga sir? why not zyxel, buffalo or netgear?
eto kasi 88usd lang. or should i go for the high performance version na 176usd na high performance version? or bitin mga to dapat synology talaga?
http://www.amazon.com/ZyXEL-High-Performance-Digital-Attached-NSA325/dp/B007JLDTRY
my current collection is 2TB of movies pa lang. if panget kasi bura kaagad. esp if we wont watch it again hehe. so 2 wd red na 3TB or 6TB happy na ako. mga 300+ movies na yun :)
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Maliit pa lang naman pala collection mo. Or maybe try WD MyBook Live instead.
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Maliit pa lang naman pala collection mo. Or maybe try WD MyBook Live instead.
baka di kayanan ng wdlive if 2 tv or media player magplay ng hd movies na sabayan or kaya ba sir?
how big is your collection pala?
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synology and qnap, medyo nasa top tier sila for soho kaya medyo pricey compared sa iba.
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baka di kayanan ng wdlive if 2 tv or media player magplay ng hd movies na sabayan or kaya ba sir?
how big is your collection pala?
Pwede ngang di kayanin. Collection ko is around 12TB up. Size per movie is 20GB up. You can try then sell if it doesn't work out. Its the cheaper option kasi. Dlink has a NAS also which fits 2 HDD and retails maybe less than 5k. You may look into that as well. Another would be to put a hard drive on the media player and access it on your pc via upnp then transfer movies on demand to it.
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kaya ba ng pogoplug share ng videos sa house? alam ko designed siya pang... internet.. pero pag within the network... kakayanin kaya mag stream?
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kaya ba ng pogoplug share ng videos sa house? alam ko designed siya pang... internet.. pero pag within the network... kakayanin kaya mag stream?
I am certain it can , its been clocked at 23 to 28 Mbps on a gigabit network. Functioning as a nas .With optimizations ..
Early marketing ;)
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thanks sir jambam for info:D hehehe
pati sa marketing.. hehe
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I am certain it can , its been clocked at 23 to 28 Mbps on a gigabit network. Functioning as a nas .With optimizations ..
Early marketing ;)
kaya pati 30gb in full resolution? hehe
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kaya pati 30gb in full resolution? hehe
30Gb would be a Blu-ray remux , if my memory serves me right is about 40Mbps (mega bits) peak maybe more . As the Pogo can do 20 MBps ( Mega Bytes) , it should be well within .
How many streams , i don't know , but you should scale your expectations with the price you pay for ...
If this what you plan to stream . you better ensure you're wireless system is also up to that task ;)
or scale you files to what the system is capable of
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shopping list
router
http://www.amazon.com/RT-N66U-Dual-Band-Wireless-N900-Gigabit-Router/dp/B006QB1RPY
or eto
http://www.amazon.com/RT-AC66U-Dual-Band-Wireless-AC1750-Gigabit-Router/dp/B008ABOJKS
nas
http://www.amazon.com/Synology-DiskStation-Diskless-Attached-DS213j/dp/B00CRB9CK4/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1377107029&sr=1-2&keywords=synology+ds213
or
http://www.amazon.com/Synology-DiskStation-Diskless-Attached-DS213/dp/B008U68UHG/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1377107029&sr=1-1&keywords=synology+ds213
kailangan ba ng NAS hard drive like WD red or WD green ok na? thanks :)
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Second option for both router and nas, imo.
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shopping list
router
http://www.amazon.com/RT-N66U-Dual-Band-Wireless-N900-Gigabit-Router/dp/B006QB1RPY
or eto
http://www.amazon.com/RT-AC66U-Dual-Band-Wireless-AC1750-Gigabit-Router/dp/B008ABOJKS
nas
http://www.amazon.com/Synology-DiskStation-Diskless-Attached-DS213j/dp/B00CRB9CK4/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1377107029&sr=1-2&keywords=synology+ds213
or
http://www.amazon.com/Synology-DiskStation-Diskless-Attached-DS213/dp/B008U68UHG/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1377107029&sr=1-1&keywords=synology+ds213
kailangan ba ng NAS hard drive like WD red or WD green ok na? thanks :)
both routers are top of the line, advantage lng nung isa is support for AC standard. you can never go wrong with either of the two.
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anybody tried making their own network attached server? if yes, will it be cheaper? :)
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anybody tried making their own network attached server? if yes, will it be cheaper? :)
You can build a basic PC that can serve as a file server.
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anybody tried making their own network attached server? if yes, will it be cheaper? :)
I built mine around 4 years ago , if only 2 drive capacity you may not save a lot . But maybe for 8 to 10 drives then youll save , its also worth it to buy used or recycle old pcs as you dont need the latest processors.
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anyone have an AC router or using gigabit ethernet at home? any feedbacks?
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Main disadvantage of server based NASes (e.g. freenas / Windows Server) is electricity consumption (150-200 watts) + large foot print (maybe not a deal breaker for some). However, it is much more powerfull and I would say 'full-proof'. It can be easily modified / upgraded by just adding memory modules or PCI cards.
Main advantage naman for Synology NASes are MUCH lower power consumption (~20 watts) + lesser foot print. However for Home based Synology products like DS213, you cannot upgrade its hardware. For business / enterprise grade Synology NASes, however, you're limited to a few upgrades (e.g. memory) but they cost $$$$$.
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Not sure if DS213 is capable of streaming 2 or 3 (~20-30gb) BD movies over the network via uPnP. Has anyone tried it?
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I have a Window Home Server which consumes for about 40-60watts
Sandy Bridge: G620
Mobo: z68 Pro3 m
HDD: 4x 2tb Green
PSU: Seasonic 520w (SII) 80+ Silver
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I have a Window Home Server which consumes for about 40-60watts
Sandy Bridge: G620
Mobo: z68 Pro3 m
HDD: 4x 2tb Green
PSU: Seasonic 520w (SII) 80+ Silver
mga how much nagastos mo sir? thanks
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Hi Bros. After trying for quite a while, I've settled on a mixed wired/wireless network that is served by a hefty custom built Windows desktop/server. I was especially pleased last month when I could access our home media library from the airports and my hotel rooms in South Korea and Singapore, and continue watching the TV series I'd been watching, and a few movies as well. Sure, those countries have great Internet infra but my watching would not have been possible if our media server were not up to playing its critical role.
Our media server is built around an Asus Z87I-PRO MOBO in a Bitfenix Phenom Mini-ITX case. I opted for a Intel i7-4770K CPU and 16GB of 2133MHz OC'd memory because it would have to transcode possibly several streams at the same time. It does also have a AMD R7 200 card that is used somewhat (the CPU is shows heavy loading) when transcoding.
Transcoding is very CPU intensive which translates to heat generated. Getting rid of that heat is very important if you want your electronics to have a long and productive life. So the CPU, which is setup to dynamically overclock depending on the workload, has a gaming rig water cooling system. The GPU card as can be expected has its own built-in fan. And there are another 3 high grade fans installed on the front, back and top sides of the chassis. Actually, there would have been 4 chassis fans but the CPU cooling system tubes got in the way.
For storage, the server has an SSD for boot and 4 HDDs with a total label capacity of 14T over which our media files are spread. The Bitfenix case is nice because it can hold up to 6 HDD in its cages which is important to me to avoid external drive cages connected via USB and the heartache we experienced involving about 9TB of storage.
With so many HDDs and near gaming rig hardware, I was actually worried about the power consumption. Surprisingly, according to the APC Backup-UPS 1100, supplying the server, only about 2.74 kWH (114 watts) are consumed on a daily basis and that even includes the 25" LCD screen, a network switch and access point. When transcoding the consumption does go up to 190 watts. Really not that bad IMHO.
The server connects to the network through a gigabit Ethernet port on the Z87I-PRO, which also includes an 802.11 a/b/g/n NIC but we only use the Ethernet.
Our wireless network is pretty hefty and I'll get to that shortly, but IMHO there is nothing like a wired network by far. So as a rule, if the end device is not going to move then it will be wired. Anyway, nowadays, ready to use CAT6 cables are easy enough to find, and gigabit switches are affordable enough. The slightly higher unsightliness or hassle of installing the cables is IMHO well worth it.
Right now, we are still using the built-in gigabit switches on the old SOHO wireless routers we still have around. I don't really recommend this path for the non-technically inclined because it requires fiddling with the router's settings, and gigabit switches are relatively cheap. I'm just being patient enough to save up so we can replace these with managed switches.
Wireless access in our network is provided through three Ubiquity UniFi AP-PRO access points. A bit of an overkill as these high-end access points with both 2.4GHz and 5GHz radios, a gigabit Ethernet port, mesh capability, and other you-don't-need-them features. From experience however, you can't be skimpy when it comes to wireless because links speeds degrade very quickly from the label speeds, as do other label "promises" wireless routers manufacturers make. In fairness, the Asus RT-N65U and Buffalo G450 and G300 wireless SOHO routers did do fairly well. They could even do wireless streaming to some degree but they cannot of course compare to the Ubiquity APs that with just one streamed to 2 laptops, 2 tablets and 3 android phones all at the same time.
This is I guess already off-topic but another key to being able to access our home media server from South Korea and Singapore, is the pfSense 2.1 gateway that is running on a PC Engines APU-04 box. The server was running Serviio and I had my laptop set to "medium" resolution on the browser UI. Our library material is all ripped at 1080p with lossless audio so it safe to say the server was transcoding everything.
The above was not a "straight shot" with he setup went through several iterations. I thought to share this so that other might take a straighter path.
Cheers