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Home Theater => Audio => Setting Up => Topic started by: ricky on Jun 25, 2014 at 06:58 AM
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http://hometheater.about.com/od/hometheaternewsandtrends/ss/Dolby-Atmos-From-The-Cinema-To-Your-Home-Theater.htm?nl=1 (http://hometheater.about.com/od/hometheaternewsandtrends/ss/Dolby-Atmos-From-The-Cinema-To-Your-Home-Theater.htm?nl=1)
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http://hometheater.about.com/od/hometheaternewsandtrends/ss/Dolby-Atmos-From-The-Cinema-To-Your-Home-Theater.htm?nl=1 (http://hometheater.about.com/od/hometheaternewsandtrends/ss/Dolby-Atmos-From-The-Cinema-To-Your-Home-Theater.htm?nl=1)
Pioneer and Onkyo is teaming up sa receivers pero they will be retaining their brands.
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Masaya na ako sa 7.2...
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Masaya na ako sa 7.2...
Pero iba daw ang sound imaging ng Atmos according to reviews. 3D panning kung baga.
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Hanggang 5.1.4 lang ata ako. Though mas immersive nga ang 7.1.4.
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ang atmos ba walang front heights and wides ? 11.2.4?
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ang atmos ba walang front heights and wides ? 11.2.4?
For now parang 7.2.4 pa lang ata doc. S pagka intindi ko, hindi ideal ang wall mounted at dipole s Atmos set up. :(. and if ayaw mo naman ng ceiling speakers, meron add on module ilagay on top s existing speakers mo aside s speakers n made for Atmos.
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Pero iba daw ang sound imaging ng Atmos according to reviews. 3D panning kung baga.
I agree. Nakapanood nako sa Atmos theater sa greenhills and iba talaga especially for overhead panning.
Kaya lang masa bagay ata ang Atmos for large venues like public cinemas, for home theaters, malamang minimal ang improvement from a cost-benefit standpoint. I can hear overhead panning like a car jumping over my head from the back to the front, in my 7.2 setup.
Pero... baka sa kwarto ni streetsmart okay na okay ang atmos.... ;D
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I agree. Nakapanood nako sa Atmos theater sa greenhills and iba talaga especially for overhead panning.
Kaya lang masa bagay ata ang Atmos for large venues like public cinemas, for home theaters, malamang minimal ang improvement from a cost-benefit standpoint. I can hear overhead panning like a car jumping over my head from the back to the front, in my 7.2 setup.
Pero... baka sa kwarto ni streetsmart okay na okay ang atmos.... ;D
Pwede!!!!!
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Wala yatang nakabasa ng post ko kahapon. Cross-post ko na lang:
Dolby Atmos thundering into home theaters
with the help of Onkyo, others
Onkyo leads charge for even bigger living room sound
By JR Bookwalter 11h ago
... Onkyo plans to be first out of the gate with Dolby Atmos support for its upcoming TX-NR1030 and TX-NR3030 network receivers as well as the PR-SC5530 Network A/V Controller, a pair of "home theater in a box" systems and new speaker packages.
http://www.techradar.com/news/home-cinema/home-theatre-audio/dolby-atmos-thunders-into-home-theaters-this-summer-1254510 (http://www.techradar.com/news/home-cinema/home-theatre-audio/dolby-atmos-thunders-into-home-theaters-this-summer-1254510)
Denon, Marantz, Pioneer, Onkyo, Integra
Reveal Dolby Atmos-Equipped Home Theater Gear
By Chris Boylan
Published: 2014-06-23 - 15:50:04
(http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/artman2/uploads/4/dolby-atmos-surround-diagram-700.jpg)
Though we got Onkyo's Dolby Atmos news earlier than the rest, sure enough, other electronics manufacturer are showing their support for Dolby Atmos surround by offering home theater products (mostly A/V receivers) with built-in Dolby Atmos decoding. Pioneer, Denon, Marantz and Integra have all sent out official announcements for upcoming products that will include Dolby Atmos decoding.
http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/Denon-Marantz-Pioneer-Onkyo-Integra-Reveal-Dolby-Atmos-Equipped-Home-Theater-Gear.shtml (http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/Denon-Marantz-Pioneer-Onkyo-Integra-Reveal-Dolby-Atmos-Equipped-Home-Theater-Gear.shtml)
Dolby: Atmos Blu-ray Discs Due This Year
Updated! San Francisco — Dolby Atmos surround sound will
begin appearing on Blu-ray discs and streaming services this fall,
with more titles to come in 2015.
6/23/2014 09:15:00 AM Eastern
http://www.twice.com/news/blu-raydvd/dolby-atmos-blu-ray-discs-due-year/45750#sthash.ox7bLjTJ.dpuf (http://www.twice.com/news/blu-raydvd/dolby-atmos-blu-ray-discs-due-year/45750#sthash.ox7bLjTJ.dpuf)
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Ang mahirap dito mag wiring sa ceiling, hehehe ;D
Mga latest Onkyo receivers Dolby Atmos capable na...
http://www.intl.onkyo.com/products/av_components/av_receivers/ (http://www.intl.onkyo.com/products/av_components/av_receivers/)
AV Processor...
http://www.intl.onkyo.com/products/av_components/av_separates/pr-sc5530/index.html (http://www.intl.onkyo.com/products/av_components/av_separates/pr-sc5530/index.html)
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Magastos sa speakers yang Atmos na yan he he he..
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Si Yamaha meron na din.
http://www.whathifi.com/news/yamaha-unveils-aventage-rx-a40-av-receiver-range
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dagdag gastos nanaman :o
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Pag gusto mo talagang maging updatded sa latest tech, eto ang magiging scenario mo:
Set up ka ng Dolby Atmos. Pag tapos na ang Atmos setup mo, lalabas naman ang open-source MDA ("Multi-Dimensional Audio"), pushed by Barco (Auro) and DTS.
Upgrade ka na naman.
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CinemaCon: Issue Brewing Over Proposed Immersive Sound Standards
Barco and DTS announce support for open format MDA; Dolby
argues that the option won’t ensure consistent playback.
9:49 AM PDT 4/18/2013 by Carolyn Giardina
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/behind-screen/cinemacon-issue-brewing-proposed-immersive-442120 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/behind-screen/cinemacon-issue-brewing-proposed-immersive-442120)
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Eto na naman another dagdag na naman sa AVR to malamang...hehehe
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Wow ang daming speakers sa ceiling. :) Pwede maglagay din sa Comfort Room para immersive. hehehehe
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Merge na din ang Onkyo & Pioneer sa receiver line lang ata.
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Here's an article regarding denon and marantz atmos possible speaker configuration:
http://www.twice.com/news/components/denon-marantz-readying-dolby-atmos-audio-components/45756#sthash.MnZ6EDh7.dpuf
I hope the front wides are included in the so called traditional speaker configuration(in 9.1.2). Ganda pa naman ng effect ng wides IMO.
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Wow, this new tech will probably change my plans of speaker placements in my future project. Gastos na naman :O
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Kailangan din ng speaker switcher pag lumabas na ang DTS format. Kaya dalawa rin ang receiver mo, one for Dolby and the other one for the DTS compatibility. Or kung ayaw mo ng switcher, dalawang HT setup -).
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^ not really, receivers and pre-pros would most likely feature both, just like you don't need separate processors for Dolby and DTS formats today.
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Kailangan din ng speaker switcher pag lumabas na ang DTS format. Kaya dalawa rin ang receiver mo, one for Dolby and the other one for the DTS compatibility. Or kung ayaw mo ng switcher, dalawang HT setup -).
Maglalabas din sir ng katapat ng Atmos na DTS format?
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Does that mean the audio signal should be encoded on Blurays to enjoy that option from a receiver supporting the Atmos?
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Maglalabas din sir ng katapat ng Atmos na DTS format?
MDA ata ang itatapat ng DTS sa Dolby Atmos.
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Madali naman magpagapang ng wires sa ceiling. Ordinary ceiling speakers lang kaya ito?
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Maglalabas din sir ng katapat ng Atmos na DTS format?
DTS UHD ata sir.
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Does that mean the audio signal should be encoded on Blurays to enjoy that option from a receiver supporting the Atmos?
Yes, just like regular Dolby and DTS need to be encoded on DVDs et. al.
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Madali naman magpagapang ng wires sa ceiling. Ordinary ceiling speakers lang kaya ito?
Baka powered speakers kasi hindi na ata magkakasya sa receiver ang additional 4 amps sa module.
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MDA ata ang itatapat ng DTS sa Dolby Atmos.
Hantayin na lang natin maglabas ng receiver na both meron. hehe!
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A better description of Atmos:
http://www.whathifi.com/news/dolby-atmos-what-is-it-how-can-you-get-it
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Will a Dolby Atmos receiver play a DTS soundtrack in Atmos format?
For example, if you have a BD of 300: Rise of an Empire, the only English track is in DTS HD MA:
Audio
English: DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 (48kHz, 24-bit)
French: Dolby Digital 5.1 (448 kbps)
Spanish: Dolby Digital 5.1 (448 kbps)
Portuguese: Dolby Digital 5.1
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/300-Rise-of-an-Empire-Blu-ray/96080/ (http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/300-Rise-of-an-Empire-Blu-ray/96080/)
Will you be able to play that DTS HD MA track in Atmos format?
Even if you can, I'm thinking the sound placements will be inaccurate, because the software will just be guessing the placements, unlike true Atmos metadata encoded on the BD, where coordinates are assigned to the sound at source.
Similar to a 2.0 source played back with multi-channel Dolby Pro-Logic IIx vs. a true Dolby 7.1 source played back as Dolby 7.1. The matrixed 2.0 sound can never be as good as the true discrete 7.1 sound.
So the best option would be to double dip on the same title when a new BD with true Dolby Atmos sound is released? Walang katapusang gastos yan.
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Will a Dolby Atmos receiver play a DTS soundtrack in Atmos format?
For example, if you have a BD of 300: Rise of an Empire, the only English track is in DTS HD MA:
Audio
English: DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 (48kHz, 24-bit)
French: Dolby Digital 5.1 (448 kbps)
Spanish: Dolby Digital 5.1 (448 kbps)
Portuguese: Dolby Digital 5.1
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/300-Rise-of-an-Empire-Blu-ray/96080/ (http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/300-Rise-of-an-Empire-Blu-ray/96080/)
Will you be able to play that DTS HD MA track in Atmos format?
Even if you can, I'm thinking the sound placements will be inaccurate, because the software will just be guessing the placements, unlike true Atmos metadata encoded on the BD, where coordinates are assigned to the sound at source.
Similar to a 2.0 source played back with multi-channel Dolby Pro-Logic IIx vs. a true Dolby 7.1 source played back as Dolby 7.1. The matrixed 2.0 sound can never be as good as the true discrete 7.1 sound.
So the best option would be to double dip on the same title when a new BD with true Dolby Atmos sound is released? Walang katapusang gastos yan.
Makha ngang walang ganun ang Atmos. hindi pa ata niya kaya. So ang lalabas sa system mo, is yun 5.1 or 7.1 pa lang din. Though in the works na daw yun add-on box sa mga non-Atmos type of receiver. Hindi ko lang alam ang connection kung paano. Maski yun front height or width, prologic din ang gamit.
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magkano kaya ang mininum budget for dolby atmos for home theater? ano ba pinaka ok na speaker setup or configuration ng atmos?
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Sa tingin ko maglalabas ng ceiling mounted speakers specifically for the Atmos.
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Onkyo is planning to drop the Audyssey feature sa coming models (possibly entry levels) nila to give way to Atmos. Mabigat kasi sa processing ang Atmos.
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May available na ba Atmos-compatible ceiling speakers dito sa atin?
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May available na ba Atmos-compatible ceiling speakers dito sa atin?
I think you can use any speakers, whether the in-ceiling versions or the bookshelf types with proper mounting. I am currently building the mk sound demo room and the owner plans to use the triple surround for the ceiling speakers. Sana matuloy.
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Good reference. http://dolbyatmos.onkyousa.com
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I think you can use any speakers, whether the in-ceiling versions or the bookshelf types with proper mounting. I am currently building the mk sound demo room and the owner plans to use the triple surround for the ceiling speakers. Sana matuloy.
ganda ng project bro ricky. btw bro anong bracing plano gamitin for the ceiling speakers?
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hmm
planning this one
http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-NR838-7-2-Ch-Network-Receiver/dp/B00JPITXBK/ref=sr_1_2?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1411405870&sr=1-2&keywords=dolby+atmos
eto so far kita ko receivers
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_p_n_feature_keywords_4?rh=n%3A3213035011%2Ck%3Adolby+atmos%2Cp_89%3AOnkyo%7CYamaha%7CPioneer%7CDenon%7CMarantz%7CDefinitive+Technology%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_two_browse-bin%3A7306174011&keywords=dolby+atmos&ie=UTF8&qid=1411405864&rnid=5107791011
ano ok speakers for these
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uy ! lapit na onkyo firmware update :). and i have yet to switch the 2 amps from dining room and bed room to do the firmware update and see if my receiver says ATMOS in age of extinction.
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(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu220/caco2009/nxpe9ksoh1gg5ldjysb3_zpse80072ad.jpg)
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may mga nakabili na ng atmos receivers?
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they use an Onkyo 3030 at their showroom. compared to a standard theater, their setup blows the standard theater away! (lamang lang ang sinehan sa screen size) but compared to at Atmos movie house, it comes close. it really provides a sound sphere, not just 360 sound. btw, Toyama's setup was a 7.2.4 all B&W except for 1 Onkyo subwoofer, source was an Onkyo BD-SP809, and the display was a JVC X35 projected to an 80 or 90 inch screen.
I was also there earlier and imho it's way better than atmos cinemas in greenhills. The side and rear surround are just above ear level, not our usual 6' clearance. That is why at the dinosaur scene , it feels like you are running with them. Major revamp sa speaker placement as atmos wants the side and rear surround as low as possible for us to notice the sound from the top. Panalo talaga!
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I was also there earlier and imho it's way better than atmos cinemas in greenhills. The side and rear surround are just above ear level, not our usual 6' clearance. That is why at the dinosaur scene , it feels like you are running with them. Major revamp sa speaker placement as atmos wants the side and rear surround as low as possible for us to notice the sound from the top. Panalo talaga!
what demo movie did you watch? I watched Transformers Age of Extinction. btw, I wished Toyama's screen was bigger. ang liit eh. ;D :P
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what demo movie did you watch? I watched Transformers Age of Extinction. btw, I wished Toyama's screen was bigger. ang liit eh. ;D :P
Transformers and atmos demo disc sir. Yeah the screen was a little small and the pj was not even calibrated kaya medyo grainy but its still awesome! Maganda talaga pag malaki ang room, its approx 6m width x10m length by 9' height kaya maganda yung surround sound. Nice chairs too but very expensive
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Transformers and atmos demo disc sir. Yeah the screen was a little small and the pj was not even calibrated kaya medyo grainy but its still awesome! Maganda talaga pag malaki ang room, its approx 6m width x10m length by 9' height kaya maganda yung surround sound. Nice chairs too but very expensive
yeah. I still noticed some image noise despite the high-end gears like Onkyo 3030, BD-SDP809, and JVC X35. I also agree about the chairs. very comfy! ;D
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saan ang showroom ng onkyo?
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saan ang showroom ng onkyo?
Timog ata.
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Here's the video counterpart that will complement Atmos; finally something that supports deep color and high dynamic range.
http://www.dolby.com/us/en/technologies/dolby-vision.html (http://www.dolby.com/us/en/technologies/dolby-vision.html)
Netflix, Amazon Instant Video and XBox Video are expected to have this soon.
(http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/adam/f7536a05f11d07a133b38b8689ec281b/IMG_0484.jpg)
Local dimming LED or OLED panels are required to make full use of this technology. For projectors, laser is the current benchmark for this tech.
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Here's the video counterpart that will complement Atmos; finally something that supports deep color and high dynamic range.
http://www.dolby.com/us/en/technologies/dolby-vision.html (http://www.dolby.com/us/en/technologies/dolby-vision.html)
Netflix, Amazon Instant Video and XBox Video are expected to have this soon.
(http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/adam/f7536a05f11d07a133b38b8689ec281b/IMG_0484.jpg)
Local dimming LED or OLED panels are required to make full use of this technology. For projectors, laser is the current benchmark for this tech.
Yan yun laser PJ eh. Hehe!
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saan ang showroom ng onkyo?
here:
Toyama Inc
Mezzanine Floor The West Wing Building,
107 West Avenue, Quezon City Philippines
Tel.: 374 72 09
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Yan yun laser PJ eh. Hehe!
No, the demo used flat panels. Cinemas need laser projectors though to reach the required intensity.
The actual image quality wouldn't be visible by using the demo images alone. The reason for this is because the image format used to capture the difference does not resolve nearly as much (and most devices can't anyway).
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medyo ot. sharing po:-) meron na si dts:-)
http://hometheaterreview.com/dts-announces-its-own-object-based-audio-codec/
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medyo ot. sharing po:-) meron na si dts:-)
http://hometheaterreview.com/dts-announces-its-own-object-based-audio-codec/
Good thing I did not buy the Denon X5200W recently...
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Hopefully current receivers with Dolby Atmos will be capable of these object based audio format through software updates... :)
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Hopefully current receivers with Dolby Atmos will be capable of these object based audio format through software updates... :)
Yes sana talaga.