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Title: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: Destroben on Dec 09, 2014 at 02:54 PM
I need help from the audio GURU's out there, plan kasi namin mag upgrade from a HTIB to something better budget namin is 30k for 2 floorstanders 1 center 2 bookshelf and a receiver no subwoofer. So far ang pinag pipilian ko is:

Pioneer 523 - 13k + Pure AcousticSupernova 8 - 16k or
Pioneer 524 + Wharfedale diamond 10.3 + diamond 10sr + diamond 10cc for 31k or mas ok 10.4 then add nalang ako ng 2k?

Then pag maka ipon plan ko kumuha ng pilyo sub mga 10k budget. Sa opinion nyo guys ano mas ok sa dalawa for sala set up in a condo. Thanks

More on Movies and Games gagamitin yung HT, maybe 70% movies/games 30% music
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: -mhan- on Dec 09, 2014 at 03:07 PM
ayaw mo ba DiY speakers, tulad nung kay anthony audio?

kung sa movies70% music 30% baka mas ok Onkyo Sr313 pero ok narin yang pio 523.


audition is the key and trust your ears.
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: Destroben on Dec 09, 2014 at 03:30 PM
Ok lang sakin DiY pero pasok ba budget ko? Wala kasi ako makita updated pricelist ng speakers ni sir anthony. Regarding sa Onkyo sr313 sa 2 shops na tinanungan ko out of stock na daw.
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: praktikal on Dec 09, 2014 at 03:41 PM
not a guru but just want to share...

- instead of floorstander, mag bookshelf ka then yung natipid mo ibili mo ng sub. wag mong iwanan ang isa sa pinakaimportanteng part ng system. galing ka kamo sa htib, so why left the sub behind?
- no offense sa mga wharf owners but wag mo na kunin yun dahil for sure mag upgrade ka lang.
- the best kung pasyal ka sa mga audio shops. nandyan ang sales talk pero bukod sa first hand experience/info may tips pa. actually, bihira na ang sales talk sa mga reputable shops unlike sa raon.
- abang abang sa marketplace.

be praktikal.
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: Destroben on Dec 09, 2014 at 04:09 PM
Ohhh ok sir thank you. Ok lang ba mag audition ng speakers sa audio shops dito? Kahit na hindi pa bibilhin at the same day? Regarding the sub plano ko din naman bumili pero mga after a week or two pa. :D
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: Courage on Dec 09, 2014 at 04:24 PM
Ohhh ok sir thank you. Ok lang ba mag audition ng speakers sa audio shops dito? Kahit na hindi pa bibilhin at the same day? Regarding the sub plano ko din naman bumili pero mga after a week or two pa. :D

Go to Watts Hi FI and look for Rex in Makati Cinema Square
Go to MLY Entreprise(Message mo si AVSHOP here)

They the two most trusted and accomodating stores here in Pinoydvd..
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: Destroben on Dec 09, 2014 at 05:05 PM
Thank you sir Courage.
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: praktikal on Dec 09, 2014 at 05:40 PM
Ohhh ok sir thank you. Ok lang ba mag audition ng speakers sa audio shops dito? Kahit na hindi pa bibilhin at the same day? Regarding the sub plano ko din naman bumili pero mga after a week or two pa. :D

a week or two? dikit yan ah. why not tsabay tsabayin mo na para isang lakad, isang setup/calibration.

yung 2 weeks na yan magagamit mo sa pag audition. by the time matapos ka ng audition, buo mo na ang budget. praktikal? praktikal. hehe...

pm mo na yung mga shops mentioned ni @courage para pagpunta mo maprepare nila at alam mo rin ang tatargetin mo base sa budget at ihanda mo na rin ang sarili sa adjustment.
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: audiojunkie on Dec 09, 2014 at 06:31 PM

mas maganda kun bilhin package ang speakers + sub para mapakinggan mo as a system sa store at baka makahingi ka pa ng magandang price rate (discount). Lalo na kun bibilhin mo na that same day, kasi it's a good points yan sa salesman sa account nya.
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 09, 2014 at 06:55 PM
not a guru but just want to share...

- instead of floorstander, mag bookshelf ka then yung natipid mo ibili mo ng sub. wag mong iwanan ang isa sa pinakaimportanteng part ng system. galing ka kamo sa htib, so why left the sub behind?
- no offense sa mga wharf owners but wag mo na kunin yun dahil for sure mag upgrade ka lang.
- the best kung pasyal ka sa mga audio shops. nandyan ang sales talk pero bukod sa first hand experience/info may tips pa. actually, bihira na ang sales talk sa mga reputable shops unlike sa raon.
- abang abang sa marketplace.

be praktikal.

Maganda naman yun 10 series ng Wharf. Hindi naman ako wharf owner pero yun mga 10 series nila ang mga pinaka-maayos sa akin. minsan lang, underrated lately ang wharfs.
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: praktikal on Dec 09, 2014 at 07:18 PM
Maganda naman yun 10 series ng Wharf. Hindi naman ako wharf owner pero yun mga 10 series nila ang mga pinaka-maayos sa akin. minsan lang, underrated lately ang wharfs.

oks. sabagay kung series 10 naman pala... still, try nya rin muna ang iba.
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: Destroben on Dec 09, 2014 at 09:10 PM
Still thinking about the Pureacoustic Supernova 8 16k kasi sa sns for the complete set w/out subs. Pero the brand is not well known baka mamaya panget yung sound. Ito siya http://www.pure-acoustics.com/design/v4/speaker.php?id=102 (http://www.pure-acoustics.com/design/v4/speaker.php?id=102) and hindi ko siya ma audition kasi wala daw demo unit sa shop.
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: Destroben on Dec 09, 2014 at 10:00 PM
Anyway tinaasan ko na din budget ko with subwoofer 40k
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: praktikal on Dec 09, 2014 at 10:18 PM
ayun oh! ang bilis palakihin ang budget. di ako magtaka later aabot ng 50k o higit pa ang inabot. 40k cash and the rest thru CC. :P

ala eh, kapogi nare eh eh... kumusta ga ang sawnd? sana may demo set na.

(http://p.alejka.pl/i2/p_new/63/39/pure-acoustics-supernova-8_0_b.jpg)

US made pala yan.

vid of the bs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnPVbD1PTD4
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: Destroben on Dec 09, 2014 at 10:23 PM
Nako sir max nayan haha siguro mapipiga ng pa ng 3-5k pero wala nang itataas haha at buti nalang wala akong CC. :D
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: praktikal on Dec 09, 2014 at 10:40 PM
ask sns again at sabihin mo need mo muna mapakinggan at maikumpara man lang sa first choice mo na wharfs then sabihin mo pag nagustuhan mo at kunin magbibigay ka na lang ng + feedback at review sa pdvd. baka pumayag. gandang pang sala nito. fogee!
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: Destroben on Dec 09, 2014 at 10:47 PM
Yun nga ang pogi e haha ang tanong pogi din ba ang tunog? ;D try ko ask uli kay sir vic if pwede pa demo. Ito yung nag iisang review niya online http://floor-standing-speakers.toptenreviews.com/pure-acoustics-supernova-review.html (http://floor-standing-speakers.toptenreviews.com/pure-acoustics-supernova-review.html)
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: praktikal on Dec 09, 2014 at 11:01 PM
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topic/328760-pure-acoustics-supernova/
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: audiojunkie on Dec 10, 2014 at 02:21 AM
Yun nga ang pogi e haha ang tanong pogi din ba ang tunog? ;D try ko ask uli kay sir vic if pwede pa demo. Ito yung nag iisang review niya online http://floor-standing-speakers.toptenreviews.com/pure-acoustics-supernova-review.html (http://floor-standing-speakers.toptenreviews.com/pure-acoustics-supernova-review.html)

Malapit na ang dream come true....;D

Congrats in advance sir...! ;)
Title: Re: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: Destroben on Dec 10, 2014 at 02:45 AM
Malapit na ang dream come true....;D

Congrats in advance sir...! ;)
Haha oo nga sir e 4 years din ako nag tiis sa Htib ko. Thanks :)

@praktikal

Nabasa ko din yan kaya nag dadalawang isip ako sa set nayan e.
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: audiojunkie on Dec 10, 2014 at 02:54 AM
Haha oo nga sir e 4 years din ako nag tiis sa Htib ko. Thanks :)

@praktikal

Nabasa ko din yan kaya nag dadalawang isip ako sa set nayan e.

It's a big difference & improvement from your old system.... ;D

When I setup my first HT system, I started from Denon receiver & floorstander speaker but when I had chance to try separates I never looked back... ;)
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: pchin on Dec 10, 2014 at 08:08 AM
ayaw mo ba DiY speakers, tulad nung kay anthony audio?

Yes, it's worth taking A-Audio into consideration. There's a Dec promo ongoing. I did an audition  on the Titus Gold BS & it sounded as good as if not better than some of the branded speakers I supposed to buy hence I bought a pair.

As for price it's bang for the buck. Try PM Anthony for the FS speakers.  :)
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: Destroben on Dec 10, 2014 at 06:34 PM
Mukhang di pasok sa budget ko yung a-audio. :( iniisip ko mag wharfe 155, 101c or diamond 10cs + 10sr. Then yamaha v377 for 17k + us audio or jamo sub or yamaha 375 sa marketplace + a better sub.

Any other tips guys for a 45k budget.
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: Kakashi03 on Dec 10, 2014 at 06:58 PM
ayun oh! ang bilis palakihin ang budget. di ako magtaka later aabot ng 50k o higit pa ang inabot. 40k cash and the rest thru CC. :P

ala eh, kapogi nare eh eh... kumusta ga ang sawnd? sana may demo set na.

(http://p.alejka.pl/i2/p_new/63/39/pure-acoustics-supernova-8_0_b.jpg)

US made pala yan.

vid of the bs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnPVbD1PTD4

Bro ganito gamit ng bayaw ko pair with onkyo 809 and Pioneer 1121 ok naman sya para sakin deep ang bass at hinde nakakapagod sa tenga pero depende parin sympre sa gagamit..
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: praktikal on Dec 10, 2014 at 08:36 PM
^ sana pumayag sila sa SnS magpa demo kahit ang BS lang. malay natin baka ok na ok pala. ka-pogi eh eh....

kung di ka maselan basta mas sub na maganda solve na yan hehe... audition pa rin talaga ang best.

45k? naku 5k na lang 50k na... ^-^
Title: Re: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: Destroben on Dec 10, 2014 at 09:14 PM
^ sana pumayag sila sa SnS magpa demo kahit ang BS lang. malay natin baka ok na ok pala. ka-pogi eh eh....

kung di ka maselan basta mas sub na maganda solve na yan hehe... audition pa rin talaga ang best.

45k? naku 5k na lang 50k na... ^-^
Oo nga e lapit na maging 50k, sa pasko ko pa malalaman sana konti lang ang gastusin sa handa at "mga" inuman haha. Regarding sa supernova speakers baka bang for the buck pala ito pero naka tatak parin sa isip ko yung "if its too good to be true" na kasabihan kaya sana pwede i demo.

Yung pilyo sub hindi ba masyado bulky? And hindi kaya siya overpowered sa plan ko na set? Habol ko kasi talaga yung bass na gumagapang when watching movies.
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: Kakashi03 on Dec 11, 2014 at 05:48 PM
Oo nga e lapit na maging 50k, sa pasko ko pa malalaman sana konti lang ang gastusin sa handa at "mga" inuman haha. Regarding sa supernova speakers baka bang for the buck pala ito pero naka tatak parin sa isip ko yung "if its too good to be true" na kasabihan kaya sana pwede i demo.

Yung pilyo sub hindi ba masyado bulky? And hindi kaya siya overpowered sa plan ko na set? Habol ko kasi talaga yung bass na gumagapang when watching movies.
bro ok yang Supernova papayag naman yan si sir vic na demo mo muna bago bilihin
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: Destroben on Dec 11, 2014 at 11:47 PM
bro ok yang Supernova papayag naman yan si sir vic na demo mo muna bago bilihin

Pero sir compared sa wharfe mo na nasa sig niyo comparable ba sila?
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: dodie on Dec 12, 2014 at 12:43 AM
just my two cents boss......since you already have 50k, magtitiis na muna ako ng konting panahon and will not force myself to buy something just to satisfy the itch of having a home theater asap.......

since your a bass guy, i suggest you get the onkyo525, para left and right ang sub input mo....
its 27k srp kay avshop

you can audition the mission mx series sa sound and vission, skip the mv & m3i series pero kung may budget constaint talaga you can ask for a demo too and their infinity lineup! you can go all bookshelves if you wish too but you nedd a sub agad....

these are the mx series srp
MXs - P10,000 srp
MX1 - P12,000 srp
MX2 - P16,000 srp
MX3 - P28,000 srp
MX4 - P40,000 srp
MX5 - P48,000 srp
MXc1 - P10,500 srp
MXc2 - P14,500 srp

also consider the mht-ds (13k srp) if you will not be using a bookshelf for surround. if you plan on hanging it, better to use this dipole thing.

then after the demo, punta ka naman kay avshop for another round and ask for the bx series of monitor audio.

these are the bx series prices
BRONZE BX SERIES
BX1 - 14,000 srp
BX2 - 18,500 srp
BX5 - 36,800 srp
BX6 - 49,500 srp
BX Centre - 11,900 srp
BXFX - 18,500 srp
BXW10 - 31,500 srp

saka mo na na chief bilhin yung subs na dalawa. you can live with these setup na. ipon mode na lang uli. :)
these options are not just for HT purposes sir, kht ipang audio mo yang mga speaker na yan, maganda!

but dont forget to visit whathifi sa MCS after you do your rounds, rex and the gang might have something that fits your budget.....happy hunting :)

but if you will ask me if ill go wharf all the way............. ill be choosing an all bookshelf setup using dentons. >:D

pics of DEIST dentons...kaganda :D
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2861/9202141878_127a9153f6_b.jpg)

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3665/9199679567_0033ab20c2_c.jpg)


Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: audiojunkie on Dec 12, 2014 at 02:06 AM
just my two cents boss......since you already have 50k, magtitiis na muna ako ng konting panahon and will not force myself to buy something just to satisfy the itch of having a home theater asap.......

since your a bass guy, i suggest you get the onkyo525, para left and right ang sub input mo....
its 27k srp kay avshop

you can audition the mission mx series sa sound and vission, skip the mv & m3i series pero kung may budget constaint talaga you can ask for a demo too and their infinity lineup! you can go all bookshelves if you wish too but you nedd a sub agad....

these are the mx series srp
MXs - P10,000 srp
MX1 - P12,000 srp
MX2 - P16,000 srp
MX3 - P28,000 srp
MX4 - P40,000 srp
MX5 - P48,000 srp
MXc1 - P10,500 srp
MXc2 - P14,500 srp

also consider the mht-ds (13k srp) if you will not be using a bookshelf for surround. if you plan on hanging it, better to use this dipole thing.

then after the demo, punta ka naman kay avshop for another round and ask for the bx series of monitor audio.

these are the bx series prices
BRONZE BX SERIES
BX1 - 14,000 srp
BX2 - 18,500 srp
BX5 - 36,800 srp
BX6 - 49,500 srp
BX Centre - 11,900 srp
BXFX - 18,500 srp
BXW10 - 31,500 srp

saka mo na na chief bilhin yung subs na dalawa. you can live with these setup na. ipon mode na lang uli. :)
these options are not just for HT purposes sir, kht ipang audio mo yang mga speaker na yan, maganda!

but dont forget to visit whathifi sa MCS after you do your rounds, rex and the gang might have something that fits your budget.....happy hunting :)

but if you will ask me if ill go wharf all the way............. ill be choosing an all bookshelf setup using dentons. >:D

pics of DEIST dentons...kaganda :D
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2861/9202141878_127a9153f6_b.jpg)

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3665/9199679567_0033ab20c2_c.jpg)





Kaganda naman nyan bossing... ;)
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: Destroben on Dec 12, 2014 at 04:02 PM
Ganda ng wharfe nayan ah pero mukhang masakit sa bulsa! :D Thanks for the suggestions sir dodie, mukhang mapapaisip ako ng todo for 2 weeks. haha
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: praktikal on Dec 12, 2014 at 04:28 PM
mas magandang sumakit na agad ang ulo mo ngayon kesa nakabili ka na unless lang na di ka na nakakatulog mula nagpost ka hehehe...

uso naman ang upgrade kaya buy na hehehe joke.

plan well, audition audition, ipon ipon malay mo by the time pagbili mo 60k na budget mo hehehe
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: Destroben on Dec 13, 2014 at 12:44 AM
Actually tama ka, na pupuyat ako kakaisip tuwing gabi at kaka check dito sa forum and other forums. :D
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 13, 2014 at 12:47 AM
Correct. Iba na yun you do it right the first time without regrets. Regret and dissatisfaction lang naman ang kalaban mo.
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: rhizom3 on Dec 24, 2014 at 06:27 PM
You can have a look at Tannoy Mercury series and pair them with Yamaha v377.  They're very musical! They're good in HT too.

You can audition them in SM megamall appliance beside ace hardware.

At first, I was eyeing/auditioning the Warfs 100 series but when I auditioned the Tannoys, my jaw dropped bigtime!  Super crystal clear!  I can distinguish individual instruments playing at the same time.
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: Destroben on Dec 24, 2014 at 10:59 PM
Thanks for the tip sir rhizom, will pass by sm appliance to check it out.
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: Destroben on Dec 30, 2014 at 07:32 PM
Just got Wharfedale 155, 102c and DFS from Watt HiFi and Pioneer VSX 524k from Listening Room Mega and Wharfe SPC10 from the marketplace. :D Kaso di pa dumarating delivery ng speaker wires ko T_T mukhang sad ang new year ko.

PS - Thank you din pala sa lahat ng tumulong :D Merry Christmas and Happy New Year sa inyo guys.
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: zram18 on Dec 30, 2014 at 09:51 PM
wow congrats sir,at least almost complete na.konting konti na lang,ur almost there except for the wirings. ask ko lang magkano po kuha nyo dito? ang alam ko 15k yata ung 155, 7k ung 102, dfs i dont know and pioneer 524 14k tama po ba?

magkano na po speaker wires? di ba meron din speaker wires for sale sa listening room. btw, except for the sub, im also planning to buy exactly the same gears like yours..ty

ps. kaya ba i power ng pioneer 524 ang wharfedale 155 or di ba cya bitin? pero maganda po ginawa nyo same brand for better timbre matching.

mukhang sad ba new year nyo? pero happy new gear naman.. :)
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: Destroben on Dec 30, 2014 at 11:36 PM
27k for the set of speakers tapos 14k yung 524k. Yung speaker wires kay sir anya ako kumuha kahapon, yung monoprice na 12awg cl2 and sub wires (3.1k overall) kaso yung metrowide courier express hindi dumating today at sarado na sila bukas sa Jan 2 pa mag resume. T_T So display lang sila for now haha.

Regarding sa 524k kaya naman siguro di naman ganun kalaki place ko. :D Update kita pag makuha ko na wires.

Pwede ko kaya gamitin yung wires ng HTiB ko? Sobra nipis kasi nito e.
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: zonks on Dec 30, 2014 at 11:58 PM
pwede naman yun munang wires ng htib
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: Destroben on Dec 31, 2014 at 12:34 AM
Ayun thanks sir zonks! Howbout sa sub pwede ba yung normal component cable lang? Nipis din haha.
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 31, 2014 at 12:50 AM
Maski flat cord naman pwede.
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: Destroben on Dec 31, 2014 at 01:56 AM
Thanks guys, hay salamat na gamit ko na din. :D
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: zonks on Dec 31, 2014 at 06:59 AM
hehe habol sa new year
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: Destroben on Jan 01, 2015 at 12:53 AM
Happy New Year Guys! :D
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: rey031 on Jan 06, 2015 at 04:01 PM
Just got Wharfedale 155, 102c and DFS from Watt HiFi and Pioneer VSX 524k from Listening Room Mega and Wharfe SPC10 from the marketplace. :D Kaso di pa dumarating delivery ng speaker wires ko T_T mukhang sad ang new year ko.

PS - Thank you din pala sa lahat ng tumulong :D Merry Christmas and Happy New Year sa inyo guys.

Hi sir, have your wires arrived and has your home theater been set up? What are your impressions? May photos ba? :)
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: zram18 on Jan 06, 2015 at 07:11 PM
oo nga, nakalimutan na ni doedoe magbigay ng kahit konting feedback/review sa kanyang setup nung dumating yung actual wires,hehe. maganda cguro, mukhang enjoy at happy cya sa bago nyang gears kaya tumahimik... :)
Title: Re: Building a my 1st HT system (need advice)
Post by: Destroben on Jan 07, 2015 at 04:30 PM
Haha sorry guys medyo busy lang, will post pics later or tomorrow. Regarding sa music ang sarap pakinggan ng Hotel California! Ang dami ko ding naririnig na bagong instruments na di ko naririnig noon sa HTiB ko. Sa movies naman feeling ko nasa sinehan ako haha super effective din yung DFS sa pag produce ng ambient/directional sound. Masaya na din ako isang HDMI out nalang gamit ko for all my gears isang calibration nalang ng plasma ko para sa lahat ng sources.