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Home Theater => Audio => Setting Up => Topic started by: jeff29jeff2002 on Sep 22, 2015 at 07:05 PM
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Good Evening guys...
My current set-up is media player(cocoon) connected to TV thru HDMI and Audio out (phones) of TV to my mini-component.
Just want to play music and possibly could turn-off the tv if the music is already playing leaving the media player and mini-component to be ON. My current set-up would not permit me to do so. By the way, my mini-component has Aux-in only.
Any help will do..
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Your problem is that you're using the TV to output audio to your mini-comp. That's why your sound goes out when you turn the tv off. You'll need to get the audio signal directly from your media player. Check if your media player has any other output ports aside from HDMI.
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either you pass the cocoon thru a receiver or use the rca feature of cocoon and not the hdmi.
The yellow rca will go to the tv and the red/white will go to the mini-compo.
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yes you plug the 3.5mm jack (with 3 rca on the other end) to the AV socket, plug the yellow to the tv (video in - also yellow). the 2 other color maybe red and white or red and black. plug the red rca to red aux in and white or black to the white or black aux in of the mini component. if the mini component has a 3.5mm aux in, you have buy anothrr cable with female rca in one end and a 3,5mm jack in the other end.
once you have selected your music file or folder or drive, you can now turn off the tv, should the cocoon has no display for you to decide the said music file, folder or drive.
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Your problem is that you're using the TV to output audio to your mini-comp. That's why your sound goes out when you turn the tv off. You'll need to get the audio signal directly from your media player. Check if your media player has any other output ports aside from HDMI.
Got it right sir...it has an RCA out...but I doubt it outputs a signal since I am using the HDMI signal to the TV.
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either you pass the cocoon thru a receiver or use the rca feature of cocoon and not the hdmi.
The yellow rca will go to the tv and the red/white will go to the mini-compo.
Yes sir... I was hoping that simultaneously the player would output in HDMI and in RCA...sayang naman kasi if Id be using only the RCA for the video...sayang yung HD capability nya.
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unfortunately almost all gadgets today that has both hdmi and rca output, the priority is given to hdmi over rca.
Bili ka na lang sir ng second hand na receiver with hdmi in/out. Enjoy ka pa.
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unfortunately almost all gadgets today that has both hdmi and rca output, the priority is given to hdmi over rca.
Bili ka na lang sir ng second hand na receiver with hdmi in/out. Enjoy ka pa.
Yes sir... this would be the next route...thanks for the inputs..
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Yes sir... I was hoping that simultaneously the player would output in HDMI and in RCA...sayang naman kasi if Id be using only the RCA for the video...sayang yung HD capability nya.
I have this current set up with my WD media player, the HDMI and RCA is able to work simultaneously. since Aux in lang yung mini compo baka kailangan mo lang ng jack for the L and R RCA.
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i believe you can use both the tv speakers for your movies and mini component for music.
maintain the hdmi cable from the media player to the tv. this will give you both audio and video feeds. buy an rca cable that has a 3.5mm jack on one end and red+white (or even red, white and yellow) jacks on the other. plug 3.5mm to your media player's av port and red+white to aux in of mini component. make sure to set mini component to play aux. i believe this set-up will do the job. if it doesn't work off the bat, try to adjust the audio settings on your media player. it will probably tell you to choose to output between hdmi or rca. if this works, you can even use your mini component to be your speakers for movies by just turning down volume of tv or muting it. good luck.
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Pagkakaalam ko media players like that output audio to HDMI and RCA line out simultaneously. Nasubukan mo na ba connect directly yung RCA line out to your mini compo? Pag walang audio try playing with the Cocoon audio settings (HDMI audio off, disable DTS/DD output, stereo out only, volume settings, etc).
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Pagkakaalam ko media players like that output audio to HDMI and RCA line out simultaneously. Nasubukan mo na ba connect directly yung RCA line out to your mini compo? Pag walang audio try playing with the Cocoon audio settings (HDMI audio off, disable DTS/DD output, stereo out only, volume settings, etc).
I have tried it sir but I can't let the RCA work with the HDMI on...I will try again sir and try to confirm if the player really outputs simultaneously on HDMI and RCA.
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I have this current set up with my WD media player, the HDMI and RCA is able to work simultaneously. since Aux in lang yung mini compo baka kailangan mo lang ng jack for the L and R RCA.
I will try again sir using another RCA. It didnt work with the HDMI on...
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I have this current set up with my WD media player, the HDMI and RCA is able to work simultaneously. since Aux in lang yung mini compo baka kailangan mo lang ng jack for the L and R RCA.
How is the sq bro? i have a omni asus media player and was thinking of using it too as a source
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Just an update guys...tried isolating each connections and have confirmed, the player detects the connections available. If HDMI is connected, the player prioritizes the HDMI connection and disables the RCA connection. If the HDMI connection is removed, the player enables the RCA A/V port. It doesn't give an output to the same port at the same time. With it, thanks guys for your inputs...
As an alternative, I was thinking if there is a small gadget ( converter that caters HDMI output and RCA Output ) so I could connect it this way.
Media Player > Gadget / Converter > Output 1 -HDMI toTV / and Output 2 - RCA to Component
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Just an update guys...tried isolating each connections and have confirmed, the player detects the connections available. If HDMI is connected, the player prioritizes the HDMI connection and disables the RCA connection. If the HDMI connection is removed, the player enables the RCA A/V port. It doesn't give an output to the same port at the same time. With it, thanks guys for your inputs...
As an alternative, I was thinking if there is a small gadget ( converter that caters HDMI output and RCA Output ) so I could connect it this way.
Media Player > Gadget / Converter > Output 1 -HDMI toTV / and Output 2 - RCA to Component
Wala bang audio settings yun media player? Minsan it does the trick.
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Wala bang audio settings yun media player? Minsan it does the trick.
This is true, i have an egreat media player before that you can set sound output to RCA/Coax/HDMI or all
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Wala bang audio settings yun media player? Minsan it does the trick.
Wala sir...eto rin ang hinahanap ko...
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How is the sq bro? i have a omni asus media player and was thinking of using it too as a source
Quite frankly you wouldn't notice the difference between playing a FLAC file or an MP3. Just make sure you use a decent interconnect kasi I used the ordinary free ones that come with the media player and pangit yung contact points, it had a scratchy sound so I just changed it to something else and the sound became cleaner.
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I am using an Media player as audio source playing WAV files from my ripped CDs.
Quality is around 95% of a dedicated CD.
I find it more convenient since I can make a compilation of songs I like and can have a long playlist.
How is the sq bro? i have a omni asus media player and was thinking of using it too as a source
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As an alternative, I was thinking if there is a small gadget ( converter that caters HDMI output and RCA Output ) so I could connect it this way.
Media Player > Gadget / Converter > Output 1 -HDMI toTV / and Output 2 - RCA to Component
this is where my xtreamer has an advantage, it can simuteneously output to hdmi, optical and analog. i am just not sure how better it is with an external dac in playing flac and wav files vis a viz the built in realtek dac. i could not also compare it with a cd sq because i only have a vcd player. also, i still need to listen to other gears by way of eb/s or read reviews to increase my experiences as part of my journey in this hobby.
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Ako gawa ko media player connected to the receiver. and use an android app/DLNA player (Mediahouse) then use my phone to control it without having to turn on the tv.
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I used a mede8er as source. hdmi connected to the TV then analog to an amp. Ok naman SQ pero mapapansin mong manipis tumunog. WAV files sounded like mp3. I added a dacmagic and lumabas ung tunog. Only gripe is lahat ng files converted pa din sa 44.1khz. Seems eto problema ng media players unlike computers. Next, I added a wifi dongle and download an app so I control everything sa ipad. Unfortunately, the interface is not as good and intuitive like the computer set-up of Sir Courage.
My piece of advice is to consider the computer route. SQ is much better and app based control is more superior.
Paeng
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^_Brader match po ba yang dacmagic na yan sa Mede8er 800? nasa magkano po kaya at saan nabibili? meron pa ba mas ok ang SQ na dac bukod dyan sa dacmagic? TIA! po. ;)
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^_Brader match po ba yang dacmagic na yan sa Mede8er 800? nasa magkano po kaya at saan nabibili? meron pa ba mas ok ang SQ na dac bukod dyan sa dacmagic? TIA! po. ;)
sa dac kasi brad pananaw ko dapat imatch sa speaker and amplifier hindi sa source. Ung system ko kasi dati eh warm sounding so gusto ko lagyan ng konting "angas", hence, I need a neutral-bright, slight forward sounding and detailed or a bit clinical sounding dac kaya ginamitan ko ng Cambridge. Depende sa system mo yan, if your system is quite bright and you want to tame it a bit, ok din ung Teac UD-H01. If you want to add a somehow tubey midrange, gamitan mo nang musical fidelity v90 para creamy ung midrange.
Pananaw ko kasi eh walang pangit na gamit. Asa pagluluto yan. Matching gears is very important, at the end of the day you will hear the system as a whole, hindi per piece.
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What is the max format of a WAV file from a CD rip?
I used a mede8er as source. hdmi connected to the TV then analog to an amp. Ok naman SQ pero mapapansin mong manipis tumunog. WAV files sounded like mp3. I added a dacmagic and lumabas ung tunog. Only gripe is lahat ng files converted pa din sa 44.1khz. Seems eto problema ng media players unlike computers. Next, I added a wifi dongle and download an app so I control everything sa ipad. Unfortunately, the interface is not as good and intuitive like the computer set-up of Sir Courage.
My piece of advice is to consider the computer route. SQ is much better and app based control is more superior.
Paeng
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Me, i am using my laptop with foobar installed through smsl m8 dac being controlled using smartphone android with foobar controller. Pag tinatamad mag open ng laptop, i use my fiio x5 as player. So far wala na ko hahanapin pa.
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What is the max format of a WAV file from a CD rip?
the ripped cds is only 44.1khz. what im talking are the hires files that are 192kz, binababa talaga nung media player. everything is set at 44.1khz kahit naka "passthrough" ung settings.
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Gusto lang daw ni TS mapatunog sa mini compo ang media player nya. Gusto nyo pa yata pabilihin ng PC/laptop at DAC. >:D
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Thank you for the clarification. I thought something was wrong with my settings.
the ripped cds is only 44.1khz. what im talking are the hires files that are 192kz, binababa talaga nung media player. everything is set at 44.1khz kahit naka "passthrough" ung settings.
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Gusto lang daw ni TS mapatunog sa mini compo ang media player nya. Gusto nyo pa yata pabilihin ng PC/laptop at DAC. >:D
You've got me loud and clear sir.... Anyway thanks for the inputs.
Last night, I have closed also the option of using the RCA output because the sound and video was also far more inferior compared to the HDMI output.
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Hehe at least you have the options na when you want to upgrade. I think for an audio, it isbeeter to use rca talaga than hdmi imo.
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Hehe at least you have the options na when you want to upgrade. I think for an audio, it isbeeter to use rca talaga than hdmi imo.
I think depende rin sa Conversion capability ng gadgets natin sir....in my old set-up, much better ang audio if from my DVD player I get the Digital audio and my receiver does the conversion ...compared if I get the RCA audio out and takes into my receiver thru RCA IN ( conversion is done by the DVD player ).
I think this is the fun of our hobby...exploring our gadgets capability to meet our wants...
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I agree. The reason kaya tayo nagpapalit ng mga gears kasi may hinahanap yung tenga natin. Not necessarily by upgrading but only by changing gears which sometimes in the same price range. Pag nag match, ayos!
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sa dac kasi brad pananaw ko dapat imatch sa speaker and amplifier hindi sa source. Ung system ko kasi dati eh warm sounding so gusto ko lagyan ng konting "angas", hence, I need a neutral-bright, slight forward sounding and detailed or a bit clinical sounding dac kaya ginamitan ko ng Cambridge. Depende sa system mo yan, if your system is quite bright and you want to tame it a bit, ok din ung Teac UD-H01. If you want to add a somehow tubey midrange, gamitan mo nang musical fidelity v90 para creamy ung midrange.
Pananaw ko kasi eh walang pangit na gamit. Asa pagluluto yan. Matching gears is very important, at the end of the day you will hear the system as a whole, hindi per piece.
Many thanks sa TIP... :)