PinoyDVD: The Pinoy Digital Video & Devices Community
Home Theater => Audio => Setting Up => Topic started by: flashDB on Oct 03, 2015 at 09:00 AM
-
i read couple of threads re subwoofer but quite old. i also read the first two articles that appeared when googling it - how to choose. just to be sure that im the right direction, i wanted to read facts/opinions here...
how do i choose the correct subwoofer? i was told couple of guys it's better to have 2.1 first than get a center speaker.
i have small room with limited space. thanks.
another question: how do you add a second subwoofer if there is no 2nd sub out?
===== UPDATE =====
after auditioning several wharfedales, missions, polks, anthony audio, psb too... ended up with SVS PB1000. i dont want to spend too much and i also dont want to spend again because i made a mistake.
i picked SVS based on recommendation even though i haven't heard it yet. naisip ko lang pag ayaw ko madali ibenta kasi marami naman nagre-recommend.
assuming not SVS, i probably went for Anthony Audio's 10" dual sub because of the price.
-
it depends on your budget sir. price range is needed to answer your question.
it depends on your application: is it for music or movies?
it depends on your preferences: are you a normal listener or a basshead?
since you have small room, i think sealed subwoofer might be enough.
and since you have limited space, choose subs which has the smallest footprint.
-
i read couple of threads re subwoofer but quite old. i also read the first two articles that appeared when googling it - how to choose. just to be sure that im the right direction, i wanted to read facts/opinions here...
how do i choose the correct subwoofer? i was told couple of guys it's better to have 2.1 first than get a center speaker.
i have small room with limited space. thanks.
another question: how do you add a second subwoofer if there is no 2nd sub out?
For HT get an SVS. But again depends on your budget. I made a mistake of not getting this when i started. Tried different brands of sub from JBL, Klipsch and Mordaunt Short simply because they are cheaper. Nung nagka budget na ako i tried SVS and sold the other brand. Then upon hearing it, i realized that i should have saved and get the SVS from the start.
For music, SVS has selead sub that works well. But if you have a budget, get A Rel.
This is just my opinion based on experience of ownership. It might be different from yours..
For additional sub without a 2nd sub out, use a Y splitter to connect both subs.
-
Sige sir I'll check. From your description it sounds expensive :)
I tried couple today: mission, polk, wharfe so far polk is the one that got my attention with budget consideration. Dami ko inikot today
-
Sige sir I'll check. From your description it sounds expensive :)
I tried couple today: mission, polk, wharfe so far polk is the one that got my attention with budget consideration. Dami ko inikot today
waiting mode lang sir s MP for SVS... kahit 2nd hand oks naman yan
-
what's your budget sir?
-
Sir, the determining factor for a sub is your misbass. The hardest part is to integrate the sub to your bookshelves/floorstand. Sometimes the simpliest route is to have the same brand of speakers all the way. Usually, bookshelves or floorstands that are ported is quite hard to integrate.
-
what's your budget sir?
10-15k. pero depende parin if there is a compelling reason to go a little bit higher. here are the models im checking: wharfedale sw150, wh-s10; mission ms-150; pol audio psw110.
Sir, the determining factor for a sub is your misbass. The hardest part is to integrate the sub to your bookshelves/floorstand. Sometimes the simpliest route is to have the same brand of speakers all the way. Usually, bookshelves or floorstands that are ported is quite hard to integrate.
hmmm. i have to consider this sir sige.
-
10-15k. pero depende parin if there is a compelling reason to go a little bit higher. here are the models im checking: wharfedale sw150, wh-s10; mission ms-150; pol audio psw110.
hmmm. i have to consider this sir sige.
I suggest you save a little more and aim for at least the SVS PB-1000
-
10-15k. pero depende parin if there is a compelling reason to go a little bit higher. here are the models im checking: wharfedale sw150, wh-s10; mission ms-150; pol audio psw110.
hmmm. i have to consider this sir sige.
if you have the space, consider Anthony Audio's Philippians Dual 10" sub for 15k or the Titus Dual 12" sub for 20k. ;) :)
-
Sige sir hanap ako malapit to audition. I hope sulit. Still open to other suggestions
-
I suggest you save a little more and aim for at least the SVS PB-1000
+1
Pondohan mo na ng maayos sir ang sub..one time lang para iwas kamot...
-
+1
Pondohan mo na ng maayos sir ang sub..one time lang para iwas kamot...
ayan na, may nangkukulam na..he he
-
+1
Pondohan mo na ng maayos sir ang sub..one time lang para iwas kamot...
Totally agree with this. Incessant upgrades will cost you more in the long run.
-
I suggest you save a little more and aim for at least the SVS PB-1000
This.
-
so i check the price of the SVS and way out of budget. pero tama kayo go for the big gun na para tipid.
pero eto yun "bisyo" hindi ko masyado gusto i-bloat yun budget unless may compelling reason to go for it and ma-audition ko, magustuhan ko.
so right now the "better" option sub for me is the QA din kahit di ko pa na audition simply to match the brand. pero syempre, meron siguro, sana, na sub that delivers without breaking the bank meant for another bisyo :)
-
One of the best budget subs I have tried. Polk 505 and sold here for only 11K.
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,202214.0.html
-
One of the best budget subs I have tried. Polk 505 and sold here for only 11K.
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,202214.0.html
I have this model too. It was the best for my budget. its 12" for the price for an 8-10" sub. But it's has a large footprint so you might want to consider that as well.
-
so i check the price of the SVS and way out of budget. pero tama kayo go for the big gun na para tipid.
pero eto yun "bisyo" hindi ko masyado gusto i-bloat yun budget unless may compelling reason to go for it and ma-audition ko, magustuhan ko.
so right now the "better" option sub for me is the QA din kahit di ko pa na audition simply to match the brand. pero syempre, meron siguro, sana, na sub that delivers without breaking the bank meant for another bisyo :)
I bought my svs pb1000 for 19k used. Mukhang bago pa din tunog bago.
-
so i check the price of the SVS and way out of budget. pero tama kayo go for the big gun na para tipid.
pero eto yun "bisyo" hindi ko masyado gusto i-bloat yun budget unless may compelling reason to go for it and ma-audition ko, magustuhan ko.
so right now the "better" option sub for me is the QA din kahit di ko pa na audition simply to match the brand. pero syempre, meron siguro, sana, na sub that delivers without breaking the bank meant for another bisyo :)
Way out of budget.."NOW"...if you save and learn how to practice patience, it will be within budget and will not seem like it broke the bank. there is no need to get an over the top sub, just choose a size that is appropriate for your room.
This hobby is expensive but also worth it. What makes things sweeter is the journey that you take in order to achieve the level of satisfaction that you want.
-
sige sir as what i have said i'm still considering it once na ma audition ko.
-
mas ok sir kung ayusin mo muna ang budget para sa sub, mas madali maghanap pag nandiyan na ang budget, ganyan ginagawa ko ngayun tinitiis ko ang kati, kaya di ko muna benenta ang DiY Sub ko para may magamit parin, pag nandiyan na budget madali nalang, hope and pray this end of october makuha ko na. 4 months ko din pinagipunan yun.
good luck sa hobby mo sir.
-
One of the best budget subs I have tried. Polk 505 and sold here for only 11K.
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,202214.0.html
I have this model too. It was the best for my budget. its 12" for the price for an 8-10" sub. But it's has a large footprint so you might want to consider that as well.
sorry didn't notice this post. i will check this sub too.. thanks for the suggestion.
mas ok sir kung ayusin mo muna ang budget para sa sub, mas madali maghanap pag nandiyan na ang budget, ganyan ginagawa ko ngayun tinitiis ko ang kati, kaya di ko muna benenta ang DiY Sub ko para may magamit parin, pag nandiyan na budget madali nalang, hope and pray this end of october makuha ko na. 4 months ko din pinagipunan yun.
good luck sa hobby mo sir.
tama ka naman dyan sir kaso may ibang priorities :) im still open to options. same recommendation din ba kayo sir? yun pb1000?
-
good info
-
pb12nsd po.
baka mabitin ka sa pb1000. sagad mo na.
sorry didn't notice this post. i will check this sub too.. thanks for the suggestion.
tama ka naman dyan sir kaso may ibang priorities :) im still open to options. same recommendation din ba kayo sir? yun pb1000?
-
lol so this is what i've been reading here as "mangkukulam"...
until there is compelling reason to do so and budget permits sir pede pero right now i will try to stick to budget setup :)
-
Baka kasi bigla kang magsisi....sana pala nagpakulam na ko. ;D
-
Baka kasi bigla kang magsisi....sana pala nagpakulam na ko. ;D
+1.. ;D ;D ;D
bitin ang 10 inch sub..kaya mag 12 inch ka na. O0
-
Bitin lahat ng suggestion nila, mag 18" ka na lang! >:D
-
Should be DUAL SUB both ported.
3rd sub should be sealed for mid-bass >:D
Bitin lahat ng suggestion nila, mag 18" ka na lang! >:D
-
Bitin lahat ng suggestion nila, mag 18" ka na lang! >:D
Should be DUAL SUB both ported.
3rd sub should be sealed for mid-bass >:D
Dual-Double 18" ka na agad sir para di talaga bitin! Plus dual sealed sub na din. Or sundin mo nalang lahat ng nababasa mo dito para di magsisi >:D
-
so based on reading some stuff, while working, lol, minimum 10" size. :)
haay...
-
Audi lang ng audi at find the best subs that will satisfy your fantasy. One piece of advise... SVS brand for subs and you will never go wrong. The only upgrade you will dream about after SVS, is another SVS.
Another good thing about SVS is never mananakaw. Dahil sobrang bigat. Lalo na yung TOTL. Pang macho lang. 75 kilos.
-
hello experts here... so because most recommended SVS im already considering it until someone told me - how loud will i be playing it? if i cant maximize it then better get a cheaper option. of course i also thought of quality on lower volume and im assuming it delivers too.
that cheaper options are yet to be determined. and while reading this thread again didn't notice Anthony Audio dual sub... any reviews on that?
-
i personally auditioned anthony audio dual subwoofer (the one with 12 inches woofer size)at makati cinema square. this is not an entry level subwoofer. We tested it with music first, sounds ok. then we further tested it with the movie Transformer.since the movie is quite familiar to me, some scenes create better sound effects including the deeper sound on bass scenes of the movie as compared to a normal subwoofer. this subwoofer has excellent build quality,produces earthshaking subsonic deep bass especially in movies, best for medium to large size room. if you have small room,you can get the anthony audio dual 10 inches subwoofer or a single downfiring sub.
As to the dual subwoofer 12 inches, it has a dual subwoofer-one front firing and one downfiring, i think it has the same design and concept with the M&K subwoofer X series(just my opinion though) but available in the US at US$2,000-3000. anyway, sir anthony if you dont know is likewise producing proac clone speakers before and recently the JBL everest type,hehe.
it looks like imported subwoofer considering that it has shiny piano black and looks beautiful(higher wife approval factor). if you are more adventurous and not after "branded" products produced abroad and shipped here in the phils, then this one is for you.
and it will not cost you an arm and leg. i think it has only a price tag of P17k pesos cash price. high quality at an affordable price, you can spend your excess fund to other audio gears you still need to buy. the only drawback i think is that the controls are placed at the back. though almost all subwoofers' controls are placed at the back.i prefer the controls in front or on top for convenience.
this is just my opinion though,better audition it yourself. :)
-
you'll never go wrong with anthony audio dual sub. ;D
-
thanks for the feedback. making it one of the top options... pero im still open to other depending auditions and feedback... wala ba sila malapit na showroom sa QC? hassle sa traffic... hehe
-
thanks for the feedback. making it one of the top options... pero im still open to other depending auditions and feedback... wala ba sila malapit na showroom sa QC? hassle sa traffic... hehe
you can audition SVS subs at mike c's place in QC. ;)
btw, this online tool can help in choosing an SVS sub: :)
http://www.svsound.com/merlin (http://www.svsound.com/merlin)
-
hello experts here... so because most recommended SVS im already considering it until someone told me - how loud will i be playing it? if i cant maximize it then better get a cheaper option. of course i also thought of quality on lower volume and im assuming it delivers too.
that cheaper options are yet to be determined. and while reading this thread again didn't notice Anthony Audio dual sub... any reviews on that?
Important talaga proper room for that real theater experience. The cheapest and effective I can think of even in lower volumes(pang condo, small rooms, etc... sealed sub and tactile transducers/bass shakers! Di nakakabulahaw pero ramdam mo bass! ;)
-
my soon to be sub will be placed half meter away from the left side of the wall, may cabinet dun so basically few inches away, right side of that.
hopefully i can audition today yun mga di ko pa na try... na curious ako sa anthony audio na dual sub. yun svs perhaps last to audition since QC area naman and besides super highly recommended.
curious lang, may naka ayaw na ba sa SVS? wala atang may ayaw neto :) pero im putting it as my top choice - blind audition.
-
ok finally made the jump - svs pb1000 it is.
after auditioning several wharfedales, missions, polks, anthony audio - indeed svs delivers. fund well spent
honestly i wasn't able to audition this. i just relied on the feedback and thought of selling it if i dont like it which happens to be favored by many.
assuming it wasn't able to get one, probably ended up with anthony's dual 10" sub or velodyne impact 10.
thanks for the help. on to the tuning part!
-
nice choice. SVS PB1000 is worry free, risk free and opkors high resale value.
just enjoy your SVS. Congrats!
-
ok finally made the jump - svs pb1000 it is.
after auditioning several wharfedales, missions, polks, anthony audio - indeed svs delivers. fund well spent
honestly i wasn't able to audition this. i just relied on the feedback and thought of selling it if i dont like it which happens to be favored by many.
assuming it wasn't able to get one, probably ended up with anthony's dual 10" sub or velodyne impact 10.
thanks for the help. on to the tuning part!
setup natin yan bro jan, basta weekend 10pm onwards :)
-
jackpot ka na jan bro, congrats and enjoy your new toy! :)
-
@ninjababez® - tnx pards. perfectly fits underneath, the one i showed you on my phone. :-) if it was velodyne, it will be protruded couple of inches.
@zram18 - yup, i think i made the right choice.
on the next stuff - making the LR unite with the sub then surround :)
-
You made the right choice on SVS. Make it dual PB1000 FTW! >:D
-
You made the right choice on SVS. Make it dual PB1000 FTW! >:D
+1
Theres no such thing as "too much bass"... >:D
Congrats bossing sa new toy mo.
-
@mbtorn - lol too much. :) meron ibang kinalolokohan :D
@jh@meeh - enjoying it!
i'll update my first post on the subs i tried para sa makatulong din sa iba
i modified the title too... "how to tune..."
where should i control the cut off, from the sub or AVR ba? and what does LFE+Main mean sa AVR settings
-
^ set the sub gain knob into the maximum volume without clipping or any audible distortion. Then you can adjust the volume from your AVR from there. This way, it will be easier to tone down your sub using your remote.
Congrats on the sub btw! ;)
-
Ano bang AVR mo? Normally cut off, you can find in avr settings. Lagay mo sa 80hz. Yung sa sub cutoff, turn to max settings.
-
Try this, hope this can help:
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=38765
-
im using denon x520bt.
im reading some stuff about making it sound as one... currently on this one and trying to figure it out...
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/113-subwoofers-bass-transducers/1238901-sub-woofer-cut-off-frequency-setting.html
i dont know some terms so im taking it to another tab for the explanations...
i'll read that link as well. thanks.
-
Set mo sa "Small" lahat ng speaker mo sa spkr configuration ng avr. Set Cross over to 80hz. Para yung earth shaking bass eh mapunta lahat sa subwoofer.
Yung "Large" gagamitin mo lang kung confident ka na yung speaker mo e kayang bumuga ng shaking bass (below 80hz). Bibihira ang ganitong speaker at may built in na active subwoofer. Kung ganito spkr mo, pwede mong gamitin yung LFE+Main.
Since may subwoofer ka na, mas maganda, ibato mo na lahat sa subs ang LFE (80hz below)
Sa sub naman, yung crossover i-set mo sa 150hz or kung ano man ang max setting ng sub. Yung avr mo nman ay naka crossover na sa 80hz, so automatic lahat ng freq below 80 ay ibabato na nya sa Sub.
-
Mga bros wag nyo na muna kulamin si bro jan going dual pb1000, ako na bahala hahaha
-
hahaha! pambihira... may iba pa ako gusto matapos hahaha tingi-tingi muna 'to...
dun muna ko tuning ng matutunan ko...
-
Mga bros wag nyo na muna kulamin si bro jan going dual pb1000, ako na bahala hahaha
hahaha! pambihira... may iba pa ako gusto matapos hahaha tingi-tingi muna 'to...
dun muna ko tuning ng matutunan ko...
Mas masarap mag tune pag dual pb1000 >:D
-
hahaha sabi nga ng kasama ko dati sa opisina... "damonyo" hahaha wala out muna yan... tune, surround, center then yan na muna hehehe
-
sa proper placement naman ng subwoofer, use the "crawling" method....tyagaan lang yan pero sulit ang pagod.
-
wala ako ibang lugar except underneath left or right speaker. :(
naka pinpoint AM41/wall-mounted bookshelf ako due to limited space.