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Community => Big Talk => Chit-Chat => Religion => Topic started by: Klaus Weasley on Jan 27, 2016 at 04:11 PM
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The Catholic Church is a powerful force in the Philippines. Apart from the occasional "scandal" of a priest impregnating a woman here and there, I hear nothing of a priest molesting a child here. Imposible naman na totally wala. Ang dami-daming simbahan dito. Meron yata yun. I just want to know if you know of anyone who's been molested/raped/abused by a priest but was kept a secret by the Church.
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hindi ka pa tao, nangyayari na yan, binasa mo ba ang mga nobela ni Rizal?
sino ang tunay ama ni Maria Clara?
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juicy chisms yan ah
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wala namang bago sa mga abuso ng paring katoliko.....lumang balita na yan...
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wala namang bago sa mga abuso ng paring katoliko.....lumang balita na yan...
I've heard no news of priests getting arrested for molesting/abusing children in the Philippines. Please do point it out to me if I'm overlooking anything.
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cased close
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perhaps the news media do not find such cases as newsworthy, that is why...
i suggest you contact new media and ask them why....
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yup di naman bago yan. I've heard, watched, and read alot of stories of pedophile priests here. Problem is, no one would dare prosecute a Catholic priest here dahil ang una nilang babanggain diyan ay ang CBCP which is the number one protector of these pedophiles. Magaling silang mag-cover up. I doubt politicians would also dare to go against them. Why? kailangan ng mga politician ang basbas ng CBCP. Tignan niyo na lang si Duterte. Babangga bangga kuno pero tiklop din naman. Secularism here is nothing but ink on paper.
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A 2004 report by the non-government group Catholics for Free Choice and Likhaan stated that no priest accused of sexual abuse in the Philippines has been successfully prosecuted.
Most of the clergy accused of sexual abuse settled cases out of court, were acquitted, or moved to other parishes by their bishops. There were also priests with pending court cases who were quietly reinstated to pastoral duties, the report said.
http://www.ucanews.com/news/philippine-bishops-accused-of-abuse-cover-up/68411
Classic Catholic Church cover up. That's also how they do it on other countries.
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settled out of court, that is key....
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juicy chisms yan ah
hndi chismax, pareng kastila ang ama ni maria clara.....
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settled out of court, that is key....
problem is, crimes like these should not be settled out of court. worst that the government can do is a slap on the wrist.
The government treats a supposedly civil case as a criminal case (libel) then treats a criminal case as a civil case (Catholic pedophile priests).
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hndi chismax, pareng kastila ang ama ni maria clara.....
hmmm clue naman ? cya ba un magaling sa dama, so...?
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The Catholic Church is a powerful force in the Philippines. Apart from the occasional "scandal" of a priest impregnating a woman here and there, I hear nothing of a priest molesting a child here. Imposible naman na totally wala. Ang dami-daming simbahan dito. Meron yata yun. I just want to know if you know of anyone who's been molested/raped/abused by a priest but was kept a secret by the Church.
Si Duterte nun teen siya... Saka dami na mga kaso... Kaw naman... Basa basa kasi ng balita hindi puro movie lang... ;-)
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The Catholic Church is a powerful force in the Philippines. Apart from the occasional "scandal" of a priest impregnating a woman here and there, I hear nothing of a priest molesting a child here. Imposible naman na totally wala. Ang dami-daming simbahan dito. Meron yata yun. I just want to know if you know of anyone who's been molested/raped/abused by a priest but was kept a secret by the Church.
Bakit nga ba panay Katolikong simbahan pinupuntirya mo. Lumalabas niyan galit ka eh. Ganun din ibang tao simabahang Katoliko rin laging pinupuntirya. Eh kung ikaw na lang puntiryahin ng ibang tao at kakalkalin mga kalokohan mo palagay ko may makikita kami. Hindi ka na puwedeng magmalinis o hindi kaya hindi ka na puwedeng magsabi ng masamang damo ka kasi baka masamang masamang damo ka talaga.
Pakiusap lang huwag kang pumuntirya ng iba at baka ikaw din mapuntiryahang balang araw. At sa aking palagay hindi mo magugustuhan.
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Bakit nga ba panay Katolikong simbahan pinupuntirya mo. Lumalabas niyan galit ka eh. Ganun din ibang tao simabahang Katoliko rin laging pinupuntirya. Eh kung ikaw na lang puntiryahin ng ibang tao at kakalkalin mga kalokohan mo palagay ko may makikita kami. Hindi ka na puwedeng magmalinis o hindi kaya hindi ka na puwedeng magsabi ng masamang damo ka kasi baka masamang masamang damo ka talaga.
Pakiusap lang huwag kang pumuntirya ng iba at baka ikaw din mapuntiryahang balang araw. At sa aking palagay hindi mo magugustuhan.
why the need to get so personal? relax lang sir. he's not dissing a person. he's dissing an organization.
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@Klaus, kung wala ka rin magagawang kabutihan mabuti pang manood ka na lang ng sangkatutak na pelikula at sabihin sa amin kung anu ano ang pananaw mo.
Imbes na tumira ka bakit hindi mo bigyang pugay mga ginagawang kabutihan ng Katolikong simbahan. Bakit ba hindi ka marunong magmahal o magbigay ng tulong sa mga nangangailangan? Bakit ba laging tira? May kasabihan nga ng kung sino madalas magsumbong siya rin ang may sala. Samakatuwid ginagawa mo rin ito pero gusto mong ikubli ang ginawa mo sa pagpuntirya ng iba.
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why the need to get so personal? relax lang sir. he's not dissing a person. he's dissing an organization.
Lagi na lang niya ginagawa kaya personal para sa kanya tumira tsaka miyembro ako ng simbahan - kaya tinitira niya rin ako. Sinasabi niya hinahayaan natin mga pari kaya gumagawa sila ng kalokohan.
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Bakit nga ba panay Katolikong simbahan pinupuntirya mo. Lumalabas niyan galit ka eh. Ganun din ibang tao simabahang Katoliko rin laging pinupuntirya. Eh kung ikaw na lang puntiryahin ng ibang tao at kakalkalin mga kalokohan mo palagay ko may makikita kami. Hindi ka na puwedeng magmalinis o hindi kaya hindi ka na puwedeng magsabi ng masamang damo ka kasi baka masamang masamang damo ka talaga.
Pakiusap lang huwag kang pumuntirya ng iba at baka ikaw din mapuntiryahang balang araw. At sa aking palagay hindi mo magugustuhan.
The Catholic Church is very powerful organization in the Philippines who takes it upon themselves to impose moral authority over people. OF COURSE, it needs to be criticized and taken down AS MUCH AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE because I do believe they're every bit as corrupt as our government. The fact that they have so much sway in our political system is one of the reasons hindi tayo nakakaunlad as a nation.
Rizal has warned us of Padre Damaso's and Padre Salvi's. We still have not learned that lesson.
(NOTE: Before you say anything else, no, I was never molested by a priest.)
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why the need to get so personal? relax lang sir. he's not dissing a person. he's dissing an organization.
Because one's religion is indeed personal. There's no other way around it. Whether your a Catholic, Christian, Muslim, etc... all treat their own religion as personal. It's just the way it is.
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The Catholic Church is very powerful organization in the Philippines who takes it upon themselves to impose moral authority over people. OF COURSE, it needs to be criticized and taken down AS MUCH AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE because I do believe they're every bit as corrupt as our government. The fact that they have so much sway in our political system is one of the reasons hindi tayo nakakaunlad as a nation.
Rizal has warned us of Padre Damaso's and Padre Salvi's. We still have not learned that lesson.
(NOTE: Before you say anything else, no, I was never molested by a priest.)
So it's no longer about Priests even if the title of the thread says so? It's really about the Catholic Church?
Klaus do you still go to church every Sunday with your parents?
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Because one's religion is indeed personal. There's no other way around it. Whether your a Catholic, Christian, Muslim, etc... all treat their own religion as personal. It's just the way it is.
He's not criticizing the members but how the organization handles pedophile priests. He's not criticizing how people pray, or give praise to their God. He's criticizing those who handle the organization not the religion.
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He's not criticizing the members but how the organization handles pedophile priests. He's not criticizing how people pray, or give praise to their God. He's criticizing those who handle the organization not the religion.
He just said so himself......
The Catholic Church is very powerful organization in the Philippines who takes it upon themselves to impose moral authority over people. OF COURSE, it needs to be criticized and taken down AS MUCH AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE because I do believe they're every bit as corrupt as our government.
It's no longer about the priests... which the title clearly states.
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He's still criticizing the organization. How the clergy runs things. Klaus is not attacking how you want to praise God. The discussion was about pedophile priests until rascal made did personal.
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Instead of attacking the person who made the argument, why not counter his argument and point out why he's wrong? Logic and reasoning. Not everything should be taken personally.
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He's still criticizing the organization. How the clergy runs things. Klaus is not attacking how you want to praise God. The discussion was about pedophile priests until rascal made did personal.
So that would mean the thread really is about the organization. Why title the thread Priestly abuse then if in the last post.... there was no mention of a case of priestly abuse whatsoever? Then change the title CATHOLIC CHURCH ABUSES.
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So that would mean the thread really is about the organization. Why title the thread Priestly abuse then if in the last post.... there was no mention of a case of priestly abuse whatsoever? Then change the title CATHOLIC CHURCH ABUSES.
Don't be dense sir. The thread was about pedophile priests until rascal made it personal.
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Don't be dense sir. The thread was about pedophile priests until rascal made it personal.
Dense? I know iba POV natin. Atheist right? If the organization naman talaga ang target, then be brave enough to title the thread appropriately.
So where was the pedophile priests in his post?
The Catholic Church is very powerful organization in the Philippines who takes it upon themselves to impose moral authority over people. OF COURSE, it needs to be criticized and taken down AS MUCH AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE because I do believe they're every bit as corrupt as our government. The fact that they have so much sway in our political system is one of the reasons hindi tayo nakakaunlad as a nation.
Rizal has warned us of Padre Damaso's and Padre Salvi's. We still have not learned that lesson.
(NOTE: Before you say anything else, no, I was never molested by a priest.)
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That was a reply to rascal. Read the posts before rascal posted his personal attack against Klaus. Again, thread was about pedophile priests UNTIL RASCAL MADE IT PERSONAL.
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And again, I'm no atheist. I'm just secular. I don't follow any religion.
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That was a reply to rascal. Read the posts before rascal posted his comment again Klaus. Again, thread was about pedophile priests UNTIL RASCAL MADE IT PERSONAL.
Then don't be dense din sir. Klaus just stated his real agenda behind starting the thread.
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wala bang juicy sa mga pinoy clergy? wag un banyaga, corny
exampol kunwari lang.... c fr.sonny ramirez..ganito ganyan...
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Then don't be dense din sir. Klaus just stated his real agenda behind starting the thread.
There are already lots of threads that generally talk about that. That is the main idea but this is just more specific. There's nothing wrong with being specific, is there?
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The Catholic Church is a powerful force in the Philippines. Apart from the occasional "scandal" of a priest impregnating a woman here and there, I hear nothing of a priest molesting a child here. Imposible naman na totally wala. Ang dami-daming simbahan dito. Meron yata yun. I just want to know if you know of anyone who's been molested/raped/abused by a priest but was kept a secret by the Church.
and why do you want to know sir? what's the motivation? ;D
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Just like in the Hobbies & interests section. Different threads about automobiles discussing specific parts of car care but the general idea is how to take care of your car. Ganun din 'tong thread.
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There are already lots of threads that generally talk about that. That is the main idea but this is just more specific. There's nothing wrong with being specific, is there?
Of course not. That's why I specifically asked....
So where was the pedophile priests in his post?
The Catholic Church is very powerful organization in the Philippines who takes it upon themselves to impose moral authority over people. OF COURSE, it needs to be criticized and taken down AS MUCH AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE because I do believe they're every bit as corrupt as our government. The fact that they have so much sway in our political system is one of the reasons hindi tayo nakakaunlad as a nation.
Rizal has warned us of Padre Damaso's and Padre Salvi's. We still have not learned that lesson.
(NOTE: Before you say anything else, no, I was never molested by a priest.)
So why not be very specific with the thread title as well since there's nothing wrong with being specific? Title it... Catholic Church Abuses.
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name names ...this threads getting nowhere
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So how many times do I have to tell you that it is a reply specifically to rascal's attack on him? It's is just a case of him being off topic. Sinagot ko na ng ilang beses pero you're still looking for an answer na papasok sa argument mo.
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typical
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So how is making the title "Catholic Church Abuses" make it more specific? Do you not know what specific means?
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So how many times do I have to tell you that it is a reply specifically to rascal's attack on him? It's is just a case of him being off topic. Sinagot ko na ng ilang beses pero you're still looking for an answer na papasok sa argument mo.
It was rhetoric sir....
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Of course. Saying it's rethoric is convenient. Nice cop-out.
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So how is making the title "Catholic Church Abuses" make it more specific? Do you not know what specific means?
So being specific is like you said.... being off topic?
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Of course. Saying it's rethoric is convenient. Nice cop-out.
Because it was.... I was citing my post as an example of being very specific. I didn't press you to answer it did I?
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"if you can't win an argument, make it blurry"
Don't make it complicated than it needs to be, DVD_freak. Just answer this non-rethorical question. Was the thread specifically about pedophile priests before rascal personally attacked Klaus?
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"if you can't win an argument, make it blurry"
Don't make it complicated than it needs to be, DVD_freak. Just answer this non-rethorical question. Was the thread specifically about pedophile priests before rascal personally attacked Klaus?
It started that way. But was Klaus' response no longer specifically related to priestly abuse?
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No buts. You already admit that the thread was about pedophile priests until that comment by rascal. Rascal was the one who made it off topic. I rest my case.
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No buts. You already admit that the thread was about pedophile priests until that comment by rascal. Rascal was the one who made it off topic. I rest my case.
Hahaha! Now that is both convenient and a cop out answer.
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and why do you want to know sir? what's the motivation? ;D
I want to know if justice is served or are the victims either paid off or are made to feel guilty out of pressing charges against a priest to avoid scandal kasai wala akong naririnig na balita ng mga pari nakukulong dahil sa pag-momolestiya o pag-rape ng mga bata o kababaihan.
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just look at it this way....religions are comprised of men and men are sinners, it is just that...
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That was a reply to rascal. Read the posts before rascal posted his personal attack against Klaus. Again, thread was about pedophile priests UNTIL RASCAL MADE IT PERSONAL.
I never made it personal. The fact is Klaus always attacks the Catholic Church. Never heard a good thing from him. I clearly stated that in my responses. Why can't things be putting the Catholic Church and the priests who deliver the mass to the people in better light? Why the need to always criticize?
For me he is being very personal so might as well go with the flow.
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I want to know if justice is served or are the victims either paid off or are made to feel guilty out of pressing charges against a priest to avoid scandal kasai wala akong naririnig na balita ng mga pari nakukulong dahil sa pag-momolestiya o pag-rape ng mga bata o kababaihan.
Wala ka siguro marinig dahil sarado tenga mo :)
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problem is, crimes like these should not be settled out of court. worst that the government can do is a slap on the wrist.
The government treats a supposedly civil case as a criminal case (libel) then treats a criminal case as a civil case (Catholic pedophile priests).
that is your opinion, but the reality is, these things can be settled out of court...
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The Catholic Church is very powerful organization in the Philippines who takes it upon themselves to impose moral authority over people. OF COURSE, it needs to be criticized and taken down AS MUCH AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE because I do believe they're every bit as corrupt as our government. The fact that they have so much sway in our political system is one of the reasons hindi tayo nakakaunlad as a nation.
Rizal has warned us of Padre Damaso's and Padre Salvi's. We still have not learned that lesson.
(NOTE: Before you say anything else, no, I was never molested by a priest.)
indeed, and if we wanted we can make the INC look very tiny as king maker...
but the RC is above all that....
and yes, because priests are people too, some of them commit sins/crimes just like any other men...
but who are we to judge them?.....
if they broke any law, then throw the book at them....end of discussion...
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There are priests in other religions who are also pedophiles - imposible naman na wala. Kalkal na lang tayo ng balita tungkol sa kanila.
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that is your opinion, but the reality is, these things can be settled out of court...
Didn't claim it as fact. But seriously, how can they let a crime that f*cks up children's minds be settled out of court?
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Didn't claim it as fact. But seriously, how can they let a crime that f*cks up children's minds be settled out of court?
go ask the judge why he allowed it to happen....
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It's a "rethorical" question.
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There are priests in other religions who are also pedophiles - imposible naman na wala. Kalkal na lang tayo ng balita tungkol sa kanila.
Yes. I have no doubt that there are priests, rabbis, ministers, imams, etc. who are also pedophiles but I do think what makes the Catholic priest pedophile scandal worse is that the Pope and the Vatican, instead of removing the priest from duty and surrendering him to the authorities, they send him to "counseling", they pay off the kids and parents for their silence and, stupidly believing that he's "cured", move him around parishes, allowing that priest to molest/rape even MORE children.
For the Catholic Church to do that and then turn around and tell people how it's a sin to use a condom, to have premarital sex, to be gay, to masturbate, etc. is complete and utter hypocrisy. Nagmamalinis sila at naghuhusga sila sa sex lives ng iba at sila nagapapayag sila ma-rape ang mga bata. Mga demonyo. They lost any right to a moral high ground in my eyes.
Up until now, marami pa rin nahahalungkat na scandal sa simbahan abroad. Ano kaya mahahalungkat dito sa Pinas? Madami siguro kasi maraming deboto dito. Mahirap pa. Siguro mas maraming mauuto, mababayaran o di kaya tatakutin na pupunta sila sa impiyerno kung hindi nila i-forgive si Father sa pag-rape ng anak nila.
rascal, you are very defensive of the Church. I understand. But you, the devout Catholic, should hold your Church the MOST accountable for these crimes. The Church is still ran by men (oh, there's another issue I have with the Church which would entail a whole new thread), men who can be sinners, men who can be short-sighted, men who can do stupid things and men who can be utter hypocrites.
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I am no more devout than the typical Catholic. However, I find it disheartening that you put undue emphasis on the Catholic church. Do you have nothing better to do? If such priests have done sin against then they should be tried in court and proper judgment be rendered. End of story.
The question is why the need to highlight. You are going in circles. You've mentioned this in another thread and here you are again harping. Guess it must be you have nothing better to do.
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Parang sinasabi eh naku may pari mangmomolestya ng bata. Sigurado iyun sa hinaharap at sa dahil sa dami ng Katoliko mangyayari at mangyayari iyun.
Kung sa kasalukuyan nangyayari nga ito eh dapat isumbong sa mga pulis para maparusahan mga ito. Pero kung haka haka lang eh buti pa tahimik lang.
Puwede ko rin naman sabihin eh dahil nabubuhay pa si xxx palagay ko gagawa at gagawa ng kalokohan. Sigurado iyun. Masamang tao siya kasi nga tatahakin niya iyun sa hinaharap.
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Didn't claim it as fact. But seriously, how can they let a crime that f*cks up children's minds be settled out of court?
Kultura na natin e.
If you're from a poor family, settle na lang. Easy money. Iligo na lang daw.
If you're from a conservative family, keep quiet na lang. Kasi malalagay sa kahihiyan ang pamilya. Baka mawalan pa ng connections sina Mama at Papa.
And if you're from liberal background, it's an uphill battle. You'll likely be accused of attacking the Church. And we all know what that means.
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The Catholic Church is a powerful force in the Philippines. Apart from the occasional "scandal" of a priest impregnating a woman here and there, I hear nothing of a priest molesting a child here. Imposible naman na totally wala. Ang dami-daming simbahan dito. Meron yata yun. I just want to know if you know of anyone who's been molested/raped/abused by a priest but was kept a secret by the Church.
Kultura na natin e.
If you're from a poor family, settle na lang. Easy money. Iligo na lang daw.
If you're from a conservative family, keep quiet na lang. Kasi malalagay sa kahihiyan ang pamilya. Baka mawalan pa ng connections sina Mama at Papa.
And if you're from liberal background, it's an uphill battle. You'll likely be accused of attacking the Church. And we all know what that means.
sana naman nasagot na ang inquiry ng TS :)
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haaay akala ko nmn, may juicy chisms naming bishops, priests etc
sino naabuso
mukang c duterte lang hahaha
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Di na kayo nasanay sa TS. Ginagamit lang kayo nyan sa mga social experiments nya. Wag na lang mag react.
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To be fair, this entire forum is a social experiment.
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Di na kayo nasanay sa TS. Ginagamit lang kayo nyan sa mga social experiments nya. Wag na lang mag react.
Hehe ....... ganyan talaga si TS.
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To be fair, this entire forum is a social experiment.
you mean this thread is?
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Just like in the Hobbies & interests section. Different threads about automobiles discussing specific parts of car care but the general idea is how to take care of your car. Ganun din 'tong thread.
You are correct sir in the parallelism but this is a hot topic like opening a can of worms.
Why does KW want to open a can of worms? Ang dating sa akin sir eh parang may pakay sya.
Peace. ;D
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you mean this thread is?
I mean this whole forum is. Not that anything's wrong with that.
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I mean this whole forum is. Not that anything's wrong with that.
oh, yes, this is the only forum i am in wherein topics about religion and politics are allowed...
it would be interesting to find out the statistics as to the ratio of the technical posts and these posts....;)
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I didn't it mean it that way, but I know what you mean :)
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Kultura na natin e.
If you're from a poor family, settle na lang. Easy money. Iligo na lang daw.
If you're from a conservative family, keep quiet na lang. Kasi malalagay sa kahihiyan ang pamilya. Baka mawalan pa ng connections sina Mama at Papa.
And if you're from liberal background, it's an uphill battle. You'll likely be accused of attacking the Church. And we all know what that means.
This is why I'm interested in finding out about the priest abuse situation in the Philippines. The Catholic Church is powerful. There are lots of devout Catholics here, a lot of them are poor, some of them uneducated (madaling mauto ni Father).
A priest in charge of a poor, provincial parish, if that priest is a sexual predator/pedophile, that would be a real paradise for him. He can practically rape/molest any child or woman he wants to and have them pay off and/or brainwash them to think that they're the ones at fault and not him.
Now, I'm not saying all priests are like that. I'm sure 99% of priests are decent men. But conditions being what they are in the Philippines, you can see how a sexually perverted priest can easily get away what with the power the Catholic Church has over the populace.
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Kung magaling magtago ng kalokohan kahit sino pa man makakalusot ke pari ka ng simbahang Iglesia ni Kristo, Jesus Is Lord o pari pa ng "Atheist" - iyung mga taong nagtuturo o nangangaral patungkol dito.
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why not - all kinds of abuses by religions/ churches in d pilipins?
o trip mo lang talaga rcc?
3pages na, saan napunta usapan
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The issue was recently raised when Pope Ratzinger stepped down. Abuses by priests were never touched and most cases remain unresolved.
Baka naman fresh pa yung movie "Spotlight" hehe
There were stories our Bishop fathered two women in the province. It's not far fetched.
Abuses happen anytime, anywhere. Most cases were recorded in the US the past few decades. Dito ewan, takot pa rin ang mga tao sa prayle. hehe
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Hindi naman siguro lahat ng kaso eh abuso. Iyung iba naman eh payag kasi may kasamang pabuya.
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why not - all kinds of abuses by religions/ churches in d pilipins?
o trip mo lang talaga rcc?
3pages na, saan napunta usapan
Papunta na sa ika apat na pahina ...
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Instead of saying priest... Pwede rin title ng thread... Homosexuals dressing like a priest abuses in the philippines.
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I am a loyal Catholic but immorality and crime should be punished including those committed by priests and bishop. I am sure the Pope believes the same. If you follow Rappler, they published a couple of months ago a case similar to what you are asking about.
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why not - all kinds of abuses by religions/ churches in d pilipins?
o trip mo lang talaga rcc?
3pages na, saan napunta usapan
Kasi RC ang pinakamalaki.why not - all kinds of abuses by religions/ churches in d pilipins?
o trip mo lang talaga rcc?
3pages na, saan napunta usapan
Because RC is the biggest religion here. Mas malaki impact as compared to say, Simbahan ni <insert name>. Again, this isn't an attack on us Catholics, nor our beliefs (although I can think of a dedicated thread for that :) ).
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bigla tuloy ako napanood ng mga video ni madonna... live to tell, like a prayer n d uproar it made dati hehe
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I am a loyal Catholic but immorality and crime should be punished including those committed by priests and bishop. I am sure the Pope believes the same. If you follow Rappler, they published a couple of months ago a case similar to what you are asking about.
i am a baptized catholic and will die one...
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Found this article! (http://www.philstar.com/cebu-news/2016/02/07/1550625/clergy-sex-abuse-cases-cbcp-vows-cooperate)
It's recent too. Good to know.
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Zzzzzzzzz.
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Found this article! (http://www.philstar.com/cebu-news/2016/02/07/1550625/clergy-sex-abuse-cases-cbcp-vows-cooperate)
It's recent too. Good to know.
you feel good? at least the RC does not file libel charges on the whistle blowers.... >:D
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CBCP strangely quiet about one of their priests facing rape charges. (http://aboutstuff-stuff.blogspot.com/2016/04/cbcp-seals-its-lips-on-butuan-priests.html)
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^what did you expect? CBCP going around town proclaiming it?
we are fortunate now that we can talk about it...
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^what did you expect? CBCP going around town proclaiming it?
we are fortunate now that we can talk about it...
CBCP is not running for president anyway so people are mum about it.
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^what did you expect? CBCP going around town proclaiming it?
No but the CBCP is going around town telling people how to be moral as if mga inosente sila. Hypocrites.
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No but the CBCP is going around town telling people how to be moral as if mga inosente sila. Hypocrites.
is that wrong?, should they be telling people to be immoral instead?
hypocrites were present during the time of Jesus and even before that....nothing new there....
so what is your problem?
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is that wrong?, should they be telling people to be immoral instead?
hypocrites were present during the time of Jesus and even before that....nothing new there....
so what is your problem?
For me, it's a problem because they often meddle in politics and try to influence public policy. I would be tolerant of them if they just keep their opinions in the pulpit. Pero hindi eh. Nakahawak pa rin sila sa bayag ng mga politiko natin.
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For me, it's a problem because they often meddle in politics and try to influence public policy. I would be tolerant of them if they just keep their opinions in the pulpit. Pero hindi eh. Nakahawak pa rin sila sa bayag ng mga politiko natin.
which religion never meddled with politics? and what is your proposed solution?
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arent they all? not only the rcc
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which religion never meddled with politics? and what is your proposed solution?
No religion should meddle in politics. There should be a COMPLETE separation of Church and State. My proposed solution: Any Church that endorses a candidate and backs a political party or party-list (I'M LOOKING AT YOU, BUHAY PARTY-LIST) should lose their tax exempt status and be taxed extensively.
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CBCP strangely quiet about one of their priests facing rape charges. (http://aboutstuff-stuff.blogspot.com/2016/04/cbcp-seals-its-lips-on-butuan-priests.html)
hmmm,will watch spotlight again later
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No religion should meddle in politics. There should be a COMPLETE separation of Church and State. My proposed solution: Any Church that endorses a candidate and backs a political party or party-list (I'M LOOKING AT YOU, BUHAY PARTY-LIST) should lose their tax exempt status and be taxed extensively.
101% agree with you.
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No religion should meddle in politics. There should be a COMPLETE separation of Church and State. My proposed solution: Any Church that endorses a candidate and backs a political party or party-list (I'M LOOKING AT YOU, BUHAY PARTY-LIST) should lose their tax exempt status and be taxed extensively.
yes, you are correct, but religions do, so what are going to do about it? whine?
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yes, you are correct, but religions do, so what are going to do about it? whine?
I think the correct term would be "inform".
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I think the correct term would be "inform".
sure, that is all we can do....for as long as the religious are people too, things like this happen...
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yes, you are correct, but religions do, so what are going to do about it? whine?
I'd be perfectly happy if they're just taxed. Yun lang. If you're gonna endorse candidates, form party-lists, speak out against bills being passed etc. you should pay taxes. Bunganga sila ng bunganga sa politika, hypokrito na sila, hindi pa nagbabayad ng buwis. Eh di magbayad sila ng buwis. Put their money where their mouth is. Okay na ako dun.
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they are now being taxed according to Kim Henares, at least their business activities...
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No but the CBCP is going around town telling people how to be moral as if mga inosente sila. Hypocrites.
It's their role to tell people how to be moral otherwise sino ang pwedeng magsabi sa tao kung ano ang tama't mali kung ang pakikinggan mo lang ay ang taong walang pagkakamali. Wala naman taong hindi nagkakamali. Kung meron man naging tao na hindi nagkamali, willing ka bang pakinggan siya?
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It's their role to tell people how to be moral otherwise sino ang pwedeng magsabi sa tao kung ano ang tama't mali kung ang pakikinggan mo lang ay ang taong walang pagkakamali. Wala naman taong hindi nagkakamali. Kung meron man naging tao na hindi nagkamali, willing ka bang pakinggan siya?
si Kristo isinilang na walang kasalanan....
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si Kristo isinilang na walang kasalanan....
Yeah! I partially agree naman with KW pero kasi lahat ng tao may kapintasan or kasalanan. Kung ang sasabihan natin na before ka magturo ng mali, kailangan hindi ka nagkakamali, then that would only point out to a diety. So the question mould be, will you listen to that person who is blameless?
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CBCP strangely quiet about one of their priests facing rape charges. (http://aboutstuff-stuff.blogspot.com/2016/04/cbcp-seals-its-lips-on-butuan-priests.html)
Strangely quiet? What's so strange about withholding comment until the priest's guilt is conclusively determined?
The article states:
CBCP seals its lips on Butuan priest's pending rape charges but vocal about Duterte's 'Rape Comment
The Church is quick to vocally criticize other people's morality but quiet when their priest are involved
Here's the difference between the two incidents:
(a) The priest denies the accusations against him. Therefore, as of now, we don't know if the accusations are true or not.
(b) In contrast, Duterte's statement was caught on video, the authenticity of which he admits. Therefore, as of now, the fact that Duterte uttered that statement about the alleged rape-murder victim is undisputedly true.
The CBCP declined to comment about an alleged incident that is denied by the priest, but the CBCP commented about a statement that is admitted by Duterte.
There is no parallelism between the two incidents, so the allegation of hypocrisy against the CBCP is without basis.
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Filipino evangelist running a child sex ring in Hawaii. (http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2018/10/03/philippines-evangelist-accused-running-child-sex-ring-hawaii/)
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^^^why am i not surprised???
Jose Rizal was martyred at the Luneta for his two novels exposing the corruption of the spanish friars...
Jim Jones, David Koresh, and many other cults....what is new under the sun???
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U.S. priest arrested in Philippine village. (http://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/national/a-us-priest-a-philippine-village-and-decades-of-secrecy/ar-AAH0EgH?ocid=sf)
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that is good throw the book at him and send him to jail, that is how justice needed to be..
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U.S. priest arrested in Philippine village. (http://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/national/a-us-priest-a-philippine-village-and-decades-of-secrecy/ar-AAH0EgH?ocid=sf)
A priest sexually abuse boys for decades.... Tsk tsk tsk a gay pedophile priest...
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such episodes are not limited to the RC, all churches and religious aggregations have their share of corruptions, after all, they are only humans and subject to human frailties, send them all to jail...