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Title: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: newbieforever on Apr 05, 2016 at 08:09 AM
hi again!

i "inherited" a powered sub from my brother and was thinking of ways to hook it up to my existing setup. i already tried speaker level connections but it introduced a lot of unwanted noise and seemed to degrade the signal altogether. my two options are:

1.  source --> ACTIVE CROSSOVER* --> integrated amp --> speakers
                                                 --> subwoofer
* would most likely be of the pro audio variety given that crossovers for home use are practically non existent

2.  source --> integrated amp --> (preamp out + FMOD PASSIVE FILTER) subwoofer
                                          --> speakers

which among the two would most likely yield the best results? has anyone tried integrating a crossover into their system?

thanks in advance for your time!
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: zram18 on Apr 05, 2016 at 08:27 AM
what brand of powered sub do you have?

kung REL sub yan, kahit sa left and right speakers out puwede i connect thru neutric speakon connection.
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: rochie on Apr 05, 2016 at 10:14 AM
kung meron speaker level input ang sub mo yun na lang gamitin mo.


amplifier speaker out -> sub speaker level in -> sub speaker level out -> speakers
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: newbieforever on Apr 05, 2016 at 10:58 AM
@zram18

JBL SUB 200 (part of an HTIB set). walang input for full range. either LFE or speaker level

@ rochie

na try ko na sir. medyo na degrade yung sound nung speaker level input/output ginamit ko.
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 05, 2016 at 02:32 PM
@ rochie

na try ko na sir. medyo na degrade yung sound nung speaker level input/output ginamit ko.


Sir bale from your amplified line output ng amplifier, you connected it sa speaker level input ng JBL sub in parallel sa current speakers niyo? Could you define kung paano na-degrade?
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: newbieforever on Apr 05, 2016 at 02:44 PM
Sir bale from your amplified line output ng amplifier, you connected it sa speaker level input ng JBL sub in parallel sa current speakers niyo? Could you define kung paano na-degrade?

yup! nagkaroon ng konting noise/hiss (parang static). naging more subdued din ang mids and highs versus kung walang sub.
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 05, 2016 at 02:47 PM
yup! nagkaroon ng konting noise/hiss (parang static). naging more subdued din ang mids and highs versus kung walang sub.

Dapat sir wala kasi very weak signal lang naman ang kinukuha ng speaker input ng sub, unless na may sira ang sub niyo that "may" introduce static or hissing sa line. Have you tried other sub sir? Taga saan kayo sir?
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: uvax on Apr 05, 2016 at 03:03 PM
I had a JBL htib before with the same model sub. From what I recall the sub has L and R speaker level inputs and L and R outputs. You should connect the L/R output of the amp to the L/R line level input of the sub and then connect your speakers to the L/R line level output of the sub.
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: qguy on Apr 05, 2016 at 03:12 PM
I have the same/similar  sub in  my bedroom, no noise or any distortion when adding the  sub via speaker level connection.

Try connecting the main speakers direct to the amp and run a separate speaker wire to the speaker level in of the subwoofer.
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 05, 2016 at 03:44 PM
I have the same/similar  sub in  my bedroom, no noise or any distortion when adding the  sub via speaker level connection.

Try connecting the main speakers direct to the amp and run a separate speaker wire to the speaker level in of the subwoofer.

Yes. Dapat nga ganyan. I see no need to use the speaker output ng sub.
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: newbieforever on Apr 05, 2016 at 04:12 PM
Dapat sir wala kasi very weak signal lang naman ang kinukuha ng speaker input ng sub, unless na may sira ang sub niyo that "may" introduce static or hissing sa line. Have you tried other sub sir? Taga saan kayo sir?

baka nga may sira yung sub... will try cleaning the terminals and trying it out again. wala nako iba sub sir.
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: newbieforever on Apr 05, 2016 at 04:20 PM
Yes. Dapat nga ganyan. I see no need to use the speaker output ng sub.

hmmm... connect ko ang sub and speakers sa same jack sa amp? hindi ba maapektuhan impedance (ie. parallel wiring)?
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 05, 2016 at 07:37 PM
hmmm... connect ko ang sub and speakers sa same jack sa amp? hindi ba maapektuhan impedance (ie. parallel wiring)?

Dapat hindi sir kasi hindi naman malaki ang kinakain ng speaker level input. Baka malakas pa kumain ang LED light na naka-parallel sa speaker level signal.
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: sovrain on Apr 05, 2016 at 07:58 PM
Hmmmm.......mailabas nga yung kasamang sub ng lumang tv.... :)
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 05, 2016 at 08:09 PM
Hmmmm.......mailabas nga yung kasamang sub ng lumang tv.... :)

Hehe! Baka walang amp yun sir.
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: sovrain on Apr 05, 2016 at 08:12 PM
Hehe! Baka walang amp yun sir.
oonga ano, he he...pero, ang alam ko may volume control...so, baka may amp....;D
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 05, 2016 at 08:24 PM
oonga ano, he he...pero, ang alam ko may volume control...so, baka may amp....;D

Kung sakaling built-in sir sa TV, may mga murang amps na ngayon. Baka yun mga Lepai, kung bridgeable, pwedeng gamitin. Xover na lang.
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: sovrain on Apr 05, 2016 at 09:09 PM
Kung sakaling built-in sir sa TV, may mga murang amps na ngayon. Baka yun mga Lepai, kung bridg09983777539 20eable, pwedeng gamitin. Xover na lang.
nakita ko na sir, hindi sya built in, may sarili g box,  meron syang 2 pairs terminals (white and red) na suspetsa ko ay speaker input and output, tas my tatlong pot sa likod din at my volume control sa harap at may power button. Brand is sharp tapos may nakalagay na super woofer xb-30...I hope, hindi binahayan ng daga kasi may dalawang port ;D kapag may time to butingting na, balik ako sa thread na ito para sa how to's....
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 05, 2016 at 09:22 PM
nakita ko na sir, hindi sya built in, may sarili g box,  meron syang 2 pairs terminals (white and red) na suspetsa ko ay speaker input and output, tas my tatlong pot sa likod din at my volume control sa harap at may power button. Brand is sharp tapos may nakalagay na super woofer xb-30...I hope, hindi binahayan ng daga kasi may dalawang port ;D kapag may time to butingting na, balik ako sa thread na ito para sa how to's....

the usual giveaway clues sir kung powered siya is may power cord that needs to be plugged sa outlet.
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: sovrain on Apr 05, 2016 at 09:38 PM
the usual giveaway clues sir kung powered siya is may power cord that needs to be plugged sa outlet.
yes sir, may power cord nga pala sya...I hope hindi pa sya sira. This is good for small audio set up....
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: Gino on Apr 06, 2016 at 09:40 AM
When you said "degrade signal altogether" I was thinking that your main speakers connected to the sub's main speaker pass through terminals. If this is the case, that explains degradation.

You can try keeping the main speakers connected to the stereo amp and then connect the main speakers to the subwoofer's speaker level inputs. That way the main speakers do not pass through the subwoofer's circuit.
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: newbieforever on Apr 07, 2016 at 06:29 PM
When you said "degrade signal altogether" I was thinking that your main speakers connected to the sub's main speaker pass through terminals. If this is the case, that explains degradation.

You can try keeping the main speakers connected to the stereo amp and then connect the main speakers to the subwoofer's speaker level inputs. That way the main speakers do not pass through the subwoofer's circuit.

yup, i initially used the sub's pass through terminals. noticeable degradation.

i'll try your suggestion too, but again, won't it affect impedance? should i even be worried about that?
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: bogart.2006 on Apr 08, 2016 at 07:46 AM
yup, i initially used the sub's pass through terminals. noticeable degradation.

i'll try your suggestion too, but again, won't it affect impedance? should i even be worried about that?

I connected an active sub to my amp in series with my bookshelf speakers (they share the same terminals).  I then adjusted the subwoofer crossover to the lowest frequency that the bookshelfs can handle, I think the idea there is so that the subwoofer will take over those frequencies.

For the impendance, CMIIW, but I think wiring the speakers in series actually increases the impendance and lowers the load on your amplifier.  If you wire full range speakers in series, this will result in lower power to the speakers.  But since you're wiring a sub which will only take over in low frequencies, I think any power loss is negligible.  I didn't notice too much with mine in case you were wondering :-)   
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: newbieforever on Apr 08, 2016 at 08:24 AM
I connected an active sub to my amp in series with my bookshelf speakers (they share the same terminals).  I then adjusted the subwoofer crossover to the lowest frequency that the bookshelfs can handle, I think the idea there is so that the subwoofer will take over those frequencies.

For the impendance, CMIIW, but I think wiring the speakers in series actually increases the impendance and lowers the load on your amplifier.  If you wire full range speakers in series, this will result in lower power to the speakers.  But since you're wiring a sub which will only take over in low frequencies, I think any power loss is negligible.  I didn't notice too much with mine in case you were wondering :-)   

from what i gather from this and other posts, i have two options

option 1
speaker terminal (amp) ------> powered sub
                                 ------> (bookshelf) speakers

option 2
speaker terminal (amp) ------> (bookshelf) speakers --------> powered sub

i think both options would mean i would be wiring in PARALLEL (right?), which would mean i would be halving the impedance (ie. if sub is 8 ohm and speakers are 8 ohms, load for both would be 4 ohms), right? don't have the specs of my bookshelves (Anthony Audio Proac D1 clone) but i'll try to measure them later with a multimeter.

(http://www.bass-guitar-info.com/image-files/series_parallel_speakers.jpg)
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: bogart.2006 on Apr 08, 2016 at 08:40 AM
from what i gather from this and other posts, i have two options

option 1
speaker terminal (amp) ------> powered sub
                                 ------> (bookshelf) speakers

option 2
speaker terminal (amp) ------> (bookshelf) speakers --------> powered sub

i think both options would mean i would be wiring in PARALLEL (right?), which would mean i would be halving the impedance (ie. if sub is 8 ohm and speakers are 8 ohms, load for both would be 4 ohms), right? don't have the specs of my bookshelves (Anthony Audio Proac D1 clone) but i'll try to measure them later with a multimeter.

(http://www.bass-guitar-info.com/image-files/series_parallel_speakers.jpg)

Not an expert bro, newbie lang din ako and my knowledge is all from car audio setups

I don't think wiring the sub in parallel to your bookshelves will work, but I could be wrong :-)  In car audio setups, we would normally wire subwoofers in parallel to get a louder "bayo", but it stresses the amp unless it's 2 ohms stable (car subwoofers are normally at 4ohms)

For a home setup, I think wiring it in series would be ok as you don't stand to lose that much power
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: Gino on Apr 08, 2016 at 08:49 AM
He has an active sub. We are not dealing with one amp and raw drivers here. The load of the sub's amp speaker level input is hardly seen by the main amp.

Option 1 is fine for single ended amps (parallel). Meaning it shares a common ground. This option will not work with t-amps. For most tube and solid state amps this will work.
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 08, 2016 at 09:34 AM
Sir newbieforever, your active sub is not basically considered a load kasi active siya sir, meaning amplified. From your diagram, you are considering your active sub to be a passive load.
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: newbieforever on Apr 08, 2016 at 09:42 AM
Aaaaahhhhhh ok! hahaha! now it makes perfect sense!

my amp is solid state (NAD 304) so i guess im going with Option 1.

Thanks for all the help guys! :)
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: newbieforever on Apr 08, 2016 at 09:45 AM
Sir newbieforever, your active sub is not basically considered a load kasi active siya sir, meaning amplified. From your diagram, you are considering your active sub to be a passive load.

hindi ko na gets yung nauna mong post. ngayon gets ko na! hehe. thanks sir!
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: newbieforever on Apr 12, 2016 at 10:37 AM
quick follow up....

went ahead and connected my active sub to the speaker terminals along with my bookshelf speakers. sounded much better than using the sub's speaker level inputs (and outputs). thanks guys!
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: Gino on Apr 12, 2016 at 10:50 AM
Congrats. Enjoy!
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 12, 2016 at 10:51 AM
quick follow up....

went ahead and connected my active sub to the speaker terminals along with my bookshelf speakers. sounded much better than using the sub's speaker level inputs (and outputs). thanks guys!

Congrats sir! Padinig naman niyan!
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: newbieforever on Apr 12, 2016 at 10:52 AM
Congrats sir! Padinig naman niyan!

haha! pag medyo decent na system ko sir! sa ngayon pang newbie pa rin talaga. hehe.
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 12, 2016 at 10:54 AM
haha! pag medyo decent na system ko sir! sa ngayon pang newbie pa rin talaga. hehe.

Hehe! I hope you enjoy your system. Calibration na lang ang kailangan niyan para seamless integration.
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: Courage on Apr 14, 2016 at 01:39 PM
Hehe! I hope you enjoy your system. Calibration na lang ang kailangan niyan para seamless integration.

Dito ako hirap na hirap he he he
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: JojoD818 on Apr 14, 2016 at 04:51 PM
si Tukayo lang ang sagot diyan hehehe...
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 14, 2016 at 04:53 PM
Dito ako hirap na hirap he he he


si Tukayo lang ang sagot diyan hehehe...

Huwag lang makalaban ang room mode. Hehe!

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Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: JojoD818 on Apr 14, 2016 at 04:55 PM
Lapid's chicharon lang katapat niyan diba?
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 14, 2016 at 05:14 PM
Lapid's chicharon lang katapat niyan diba?

Pwede!!!

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Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: JojoD818 on Apr 14, 2016 at 05:16 PM
sama ako... ako hawak ng chicharon habang nag calibrate ka... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 15, 2016 at 01:37 AM
sama ako... ako hawak ng chicharon habang nag calibrate ka... ;D ;D ;D

Baka tamaan agad tayo ng sebo and taba. Kailangan ng pampatunaw. Hehe!
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: markcrenz on Apr 15, 2016 at 08:51 AM
quick follow up....

went ahead and connected my active sub to the speaker terminals along with my bookshelf speakers. sounded much better than using the sub's speaker level inputs (and outputs). thanks guys!
When you say better, may specific frequency range (bass/mid/treble) lang bang apektado?



Sir newbieforever, your active sub is not basically considered a load kasi active siya sir, meaning amplified. From your diagram, you are considering your active sub to be a passive load.
Yes negligible na as load dahil sa taas ng impedance. May resistors yan from sub high level input to the board on both the + and - terminals, at least 10k nag resistance from + to - ng high level input.



He has an active sub. We are not dealing with one amp and raw drivers here. The load of the sub's amp speaker level input is hardly seen by the main amp.

Option 1 is fine for single ended amps (parallel). Meaning it shares a common ground. This option will not work with t-amps. For most tube and solid state amps this will work.
It will work with any amp, be it single-ended or bridged. There is a differential input circuit that ensures the high level input terminals are not directly connected to each other or to ground.
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: Courage on Apr 15, 2016 at 09:23 AM
sama ako... ako hawak ng chicharon habang nag calibrate ka... ;D ;D ;D

With coke or with beer? Mamili kayo he he he
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: JojoD818 on Apr 15, 2016 at 09:49 AM
Baka tamaan agad tayo ng sebo and taba. Kailangan ng pampatunaw. Hehe!


Mag exercise lang tayo pagkatapos! ;D
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: JojoD818 on Apr 15, 2016 at 09:50 AM
With coke or with beer? Mamili kayo he he he


Ayun oh! Naku gandang calibration niyan with beer hehehe...
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 15, 2016 at 10:32 AM

Mag exercise lang tayo pagkatapos! ;D

If there's a will, there's always a way. :D



Ayun oh! Naku gandang calibration niyan with beer hehehe...

Sounds like a plan!!!

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Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: JojoD818 on Apr 15, 2016 at 10:47 AM
basta chicharon at beer hawakan ko habang nag calibrate ka tukayo... ;D
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 15, 2016 at 10:55 AM
basta chicharon at beer hawakan ko habang nag calibrate ka tukayo... ;D

Hantayin natin si Courage. Makakatikim na din tayo ng high end system. Most likely yan, high end din ang chicharon. :D

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Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: JojoD818 on Apr 15, 2016 at 10:57 AM
ikaw na bahala sa high end system, ako na bahala sa high end chicharon hehehe ;D

Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 15, 2016 at 11:03 AM
ikaw na bahala sa high end system, ako na bahala sa high end chicharon hehehe ;D

Hantayin natin reply ni high end courage. Hehe!

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Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: Courage on Apr 15, 2016 at 11:52 AM
Hantayin natin si Courage. Makakatikim na din tayo ng high end system. Most likely yan, high end din ang chicharon. :D

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Mukang inuman ang kahihinatnan natin ah he he he
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: newbieforever on Apr 15, 2016 at 04:04 PM
When you say better, may specific frequency range (bass/mid/treble) lang bang apektado?

parang across the board sir... when i used speaker level inputs and outputs, parang na degrade ang signal. not dramatic pero audible. less detailed yung tunog (as opposed to removing the amp altogether). meron ding slight hisses/cracking noises when listening up close. baka nga may sira yung sub (or placebo effect? hehe). anyway, much better when all speakers were connected directly to the amp.

eventually ditched the entire setup altogether since i upgraded my speakers. no need for the sub! hehe.
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 15, 2016 at 07:00 PM
parang across the board sir... when i used speaker level inputs and outputs, parang na degrade ang signal. not dramatic pero audible. less detailed yung tunog (as opposed to removing the amp altogether). meron ding slight hisses/cracking noises when listening up close. baka nga may sira yung sub (or placebo effect? hehe). anyway, much better when all speakers were connected directly to the amp.

eventually ditched the entire setup altogether since i upgraded my speakers. no need for the sub! hehe.

Parang wala pa atang naka-post sa "What's The New Addition To Your System" thread.  ;D
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: JojoD818 on Apr 15, 2016 at 10:52 PM
Mukang inuman ang kahihinatnan natin ah he he he

Hahaha! Naku naku tinuluyan na yata ang biro ko! hehehe...

Tukayo, kayang kaya mo yan.. tirahan mo na lang ako ng chicharon ha... ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 16, 2016 at 12:40 AM
Hahaha! Naku naku tinuluyan na yata ang biro ko! hehehe...

Tukayo, kayang kaya mo yan.. tirahan mo na lang ako ng chicharon ha... ;D ;D ;D

We'll wait for you. Makatikim tayo ng audiophile grade high end chicharon. Hehe!

Joke lang yan master courage ha. Hehe! Pero tuloy natin. Gawin na lang natin picnic. Hehe!

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Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: newbieforever on Apr 16, 2016 at 12:34 PM
Parang wala pa atang naka-post sa "What's The New Addition To Your System" thread.  ;D

haha! may ganun bang thread? mahanap nga...  :)
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: newbieforever on Apr 16, 2016 at 03:43 PM
We'll wait for you. Makatikim tayo ng audiophile grade high end chicharon. Hehe!

Joke lang yan master courage ha. Hehe! Pero tuloy natin. Gawin na lang natin picnic. Hehe!

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pwede rin ba ako magpa calibrate? mukhang masaya yan a!  ;D
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 16, 2016 at 08:07 PM
pwede rin ba ako magpa calibrate? mukhang masaya yan a!  ;D

Pwedeng pwede sir!
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: Courage on Apr 16, 2016 at 08:09 PM
Pwedeng pwede sir!

Mag inuman muna tayo bago mag calibrate... Masarap mag calibrate ng naka inom ha ha ha
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: Gino on Apr 16, 2016 at 08:52 PM
Humihina ang bass paglasing.
Title: Re: Adding a subwoofer to a stereo set up (without sub-out)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 16, 2016 at 08:55 PM
Mag inuman muna tayo bago mag calibrate... Masarap mag calibrate ng naka inom ha ha ha

Nakow baka instad of seamless integration maging party party calibration! Haha!

Humihina ang bass paglasing.

I've also noticed that. Is that just psycho-acoustics like having to want more bass to make yourself livelier or is there a scientific explanation for that?