Post by: the_w0rks on Jul 22, 2019 at 12:03 PM
I couldn't find the right board for this so sharing it here. Mods, feel free to transfer this to a more appropriate section
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XEvh3tvZD0&t=33m50s
P.S.
Grabe bahay nila.
If I wanna feel how poor I am, I will probably watch this over and over again. haha
Post by: ALICE GO on Jul 22, 2019 at 03:09 PM
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jul 22, 2019 at 04:00 PM
Damn, people without any moral, cultural relevance to society angsarap ng buhay. The guy's got everything, a half-breed wife, beautiful children, and a mansion with a full-pledge home cinema. I'm aspiring all these years to have a Ford E-150 and cannot obtain even a second-hand unit, but this guy got a brand-new Toyota that looks like a Hummer. They're taken to do the commercials left and right, damn they're living it up. Living it up, living out all those fantasies....
He's an athlete and she's an actress, they have far more social relevance to the community than we'll ever have. ;D
Post by: sidewinder on Jul 22, 2019 at 04:58 PM
Post by: t-bone on Jul 22, 2019 at 05:17 PM
Damn, people without any moral, cultural relevance to society angsarap ng buhay. The guy's got everything, a half-breed wife, beautiful children, and a mansion with a full-pledge home cinema. I'm aspiring all these years to have a Ford E-150 and cannot obtain even a second-hand unit, but this guy got a brand-new Toyota that looks like a Hummer. They're taken to do the commercials left and right, damn they're living it up. Living it up, living out all those fantasies....
Team Kramer earns a lot as Influencers and from their family-themed commercials.
We live in a new world now, where people like Kendall and Kanye can earn $$$ millions by just showing off what they use.
Post by: JeromeA on Jul 22, 2019 at 09:38 PM
dba ito yung pinost nya sa FB?na sabi nya 200pesos lang daw entrance kung gusto mo manood dito sa home theater room nya.
Post by: ricky on Jul 23, 2019 at 03:28 PM
House is awesome except for the ht . Tried offering my services thru a connection but cant do it ex-deal. Working now on their friend’s room and baka magkaroon mg comparison hahaha
Post by: kefq on Jul 23, 2019 at 05:39 PM
Post by: Pipo_1925 on Jul 23, 2019 at 05:56 PM
An HT room that big, could have opted for higher end speakers. .right. gaya ng sabi ni bro ricky ex-deal kaya malamang yun ang speakers but if he loves naman the sound then ok na rin for him.
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Post by: RastaSega on Jul 23, 2019 at 07:24 PM
Post by: ricky on Jul 23, 2019 at 08:26 PM
those atmos speakers are upward-firing speakers by design, that they bolted to the ceiling.
🤣😂
Post by: JeromeA on Jul 24, 2019 at 10:16 AM
Post by: crazyhog on Jul 24, 2019 at 11:40 AM
he's a fan of klipsch.. sana sir ricky kahit yung sa sala nalang ikaw nakapag set up baka mas matuwa pa sya sa sala. haha
aside as klipsch fan, probably nag matter din un color para same s theme ng bahay.
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Post by: JeromeA on Jul 24, 2019 at 12:08 PM
aside as klipsch fan, probably nag matter din un color para same s theme ng bahay.
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lahat nalang ng sulok my set up. yung living room lang ng mga katulong ang walang set up. buti nga SVS ang sub nya eh.
Post by: DPT on Jul 24, 2019 at 02:24 PM
Damn, people without any moral, cultural relevance to society angsarap ng buhay. The guy's got everything, a half-breed wife, beautiful children, and a mansion with a full-pledge home cinema. I'm aspiring all these years to have a Ford E-150 and cannot obtain even a second-hand unit, but this guy got a brand-new Toyota that looks like a Hummer. They're taken to do the commercials left and right, damn they're living it up. Living it up, living out all those fantasies....
Do not be envious.
Their house is going to run their lives not the other way around. It is like Maximalism. Maybe at their age they have the stamina to keep up with running that house. But maybe as they grow older they will find it a burden.
E150? I dunno about E150s. But in some places E150s are used as Vegetable deliver vans or AC HVAC service vehicles. They are not glamour vehicles at all.
I am guessing you want an E150 for utilitarian purposes.
Post by: JeromeA on Jul 24, 2019 at 04:43 PM
Do not be envious.
Their house is going to run their lives not the other way around. It is like Maximalism. Maybe at their age they have the stamina to keep up with running that house. But maybe as they grow older they will find it a burden.
E150? I dunno about E150s. But in some places E150s are used as Vegetable deliver vans or AC HVAC service vehicles. They are not glamour vehicles at all.
I am guessing you want an E150 for utilitarian purposes.
sa ganung place siguro hindi magiging burden sakin yun. kung my ganun ako jan ko gugustuhin mag retire. kayang kaya naman siguro i sustain ng business nila yan. sa location palang aT view nakakrelax na sobra.
Post by: ricky on Jul 24, 2019 at 09:14 PM
Ang ganda ng kitchen nila, yun ang pinaka ok part of the house for me.
Yun suites for tue maids medyo overkill pero baka naman part pf the family na talaga.
Overall its a very nice house , including the ht and bedroom. Wala naman talaga perfect na bahay, basta happy sila and hindi naman galing sa
Masama pera, its all good. Im happy for them
Post by: praktikal on Jul 24, 2019 at 10:39 PM
For sure pinag-aralan muna nila bago gawin. Pera nila yan at kaya sila naghahanap-buhay kagaya natin ay para maabot ang mga pangarap. Maaabot mo na di mo pa abutin?
Kanya kanyang trip yan and for as long as wala kang maapakang tao then go for it and inspire others.
Post by: t-bone on Jul 24, 2019 at 11:19 PM
Do not be envious.
Their house is going to run their lives not the other way around. It is like Maximalism. Maybe at their age they have the stamina to keep up with running that house. But maybe as they grow older they will find it a burden.
That house is part of the Team Kramer business. It was meant to "wow" people and serve as an aspiration for the hard working masses. Product placers will keep paying them money as long as they keep the influencer role going.
It is called "Aspirational Marketing". Kendall Jenner perfected this business model and is now worth more than P52,000,000,000.00.
The Kramers are following the Kardashan playbook :)
Post by: comet on Jul 24, 2019 at 11:21 PM
Post by: JeromeA on Jul 25, 2019 at 10:15 AM
Post by: jjjeronimo on Jul 25, 2019 at 10:24 AM
Post by: mhacman on Jul 26, 2019 at 08:29 PM
ex-deal nga kaya including the HT gears? we'll I better watch the YT video in a while -- I commented first hahaha
Post by: t-bone on Jul 26, 2019 at 08:50 PM
The only thing "unfair" about all this is that they were born better looking than us mere mortals, so they can afford to make money out of their looks. Otherwise, they can afford to flaunt as they earned it fair and square. I'm sure many politicians have more lavish lifestyles but can't afford to flaunt their homes like celebrities can.
Some people are given good looks, some people brains, some people have the gift of charisma.
Now what you want to do with it to succeed is up to you :)
Post by: CMac on Jul 27, 2019 at 11:48 AM
Post by: ALICE GO on Jul 27, 2019 at 12:42 PM
I'm bitchin' about the kind of culture that rewards celebrities with a flood of privileges, money and worship - that they go on building houses thats as huge as hotels while the "fans" go home at the end of the day in hovels and in those Camella dwellings na sobrang init at sikip. The culture is celebrity-mad, some schools would even take out their students for excursion trips to ABS-CBN para manood ng Wowowee. Can you imagine, magaling lang mag-dribble yung mama, at napakakinis yung mestizang asawa - and they got a media industry going about them? Guy even got a 4K Sony projector that looks like that $15,000 Sony model, and an 180-inch screen, who wants to leave the house with that cinematic amenity?
Such a surfeit of wealth, I'd pity the maid who'll tidy up such a huge house...
(As to the Ford E-150 car, I read it can carry cargo two tons more than a Mitsubishi L300, hence it might look forbidding with its V8 gasoline engine, but it looks like the hauler we need for the paper supplies.)
Post by: paolorenzo on Jul 27, 2019 at 02:01 PM
Bitch about the stealing politicians.
Mag artista ka rin, if gusto mo yung ganung financial success. These people just use their God given gifts to their advantage. Arguably to the fullest.
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Post by: t-bone on Jul 27, 2019 at 07:20 PM
DI naman ako naiinggit Sir, but I'm bitching about the fortune that came to these people even before they came into their middle age or 40's, as for most non-celebrity folks, chances are they could only build the house of their dreams when they're already in their mid-50s, 60s or 70s. But these people literally has become multi-millionaires by their early 30s, likely making their first million pesos noong mga 20+ pa lang sila. I'd most likely worked till I'm in my 70s, but I cannot conceived being able to afford even a middle-class two-level dwelling in a Camella sub, except if you've the gumption to take out a 5-million loan from your Pagibig.
I'm bitchin' about the kind of culture that rewards celebrities with a flood of privileges, money and worship - that they go on building houses thats as huge as hotels while the "fans" go home at the end of the day in hovels and in those Camella dwellings na sobrang init at sikip. The culture is celebrity-mad, some schools would even take out their students for excursion trips to ABS-CBN para manood ng Wowowee. Can you imagine, magaling lang mag-dribble yung mama, at napakakinis yung mestizang asawa - and they got a media industry going about them? Guy even got a 4K Sony projector that looks like that $15,000 Sony model, and an 180-inch screen, who wants to leave the house with that cinematic amenity?
Such a surfeit of wealth, I'd pity the maid who'll tidy up such a huge house...
(As to the Ford E-150 car, I read it can carry cargo two tons more than a Mitsubishi L300, hence it might look forbidding with its V8 gasoline engine, but it looks like the hauler we need for the paper supplies.)
Life is not fair. It has been like that since the dawn of time.
We all have to live with that. Be happy and thankful for what we have.
Im sure your lifestyle is way better than Billions of other humans :)
Post by: MrDeckard on Jul 28, 2019 at 09:19 AM
No, life is not fair.
Having said that, the kramers are merely playing the cards dealt them very well.
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Post by: CMac on Jul 28, 2019 at 11:12 AM
Post by: DPT on Jul 28, 2019 at 04:20 PM
That house is part of the Team Kramer business. It was meant to "wow" people and serve as an aspiration for the hard working masses. Product placers will keep paying them money as long as they keep the influencer role going.
It is called "Aspirational Marketing". Kendall Jenner perfected this business model and is now worth more than P52,000,000,000.00.
The Kramers are following the Kardashan playbook :)
That is true. But for most people who just envy it because they live in that house and does not have an idea about the headache attached to owning that house, that is another story.
For most part it is a marketing ploy and probably they are in debt somewhat because of that. They might be able to pay all of it in the future.
As with houses or "luxury" it is prone to conspicuous consumption. The Kramer might have a WOW house this week. But someone who feel slighted by that wanton display of wealth will build an even more insane house just to say they can do so. And the Kramer house will be a so so by the new standards. But the debt is still there
I am just saying as a marketing gimmick it might have a short shelf life but the cost goes with it may linger around for years.
4 servants and maybe a building administrator + contracted services would be needed to run that house.
If they are as a couple would try to run that house with so many failure points. It will be burden in the future.
Post by: DPT on Jul 28, 2019 at 04:26 PM
DI naman ako naiinggit Sir, but I'm bitching about the fortune that came to these people even before they came into their middle age or 40's, as for most non-celebrity folks, chances are they could only build the house of their dreams when they're already in their mid-50s, 60s or 70s. But these people literally has become multi-millionaires by their early 30s, likely making their first million pesos noong mga 20+ pa lang sila. I'd most likely worked till I'm in my 70s, but I cannot conceived being able to afford even a middle-class two-level dwelling in a Camella sub, except if you've the gumption to take out a 5-million loan from your Pagibig.
I'm bitchin' about the kind of culture that rewards celebrities with a flood of privileges, money and worship - that they go on building houses thats as huge as hotels while the "fans" go home at the end of the day in hovels and in those Camella dwellings na sobrang init at sikip. The culture is celebrity-mad, some schools would even take out their students for excursion trips to ABS-CBN para manood ng Wowowee. Can you imagine, magaling lang mag-dribble yung mama, at napakakinis yung mestizang asawa - and they got a media industry going about them? Guy even got a 4K Sony projector that looks like that $15,000 Sony model, and an 180-inch screen, who wants to leave the house with that cinematic amenity?
Such a surfeit of wealth, I'd pity the maid who'll tidy up such a huge house...
(As to the Ford E-150 car, I read it can carry cargo two tons more than a Mitsubishi L300, hence it might look forbidding with its V8 gasoline engine, but it looks like the hauler we need for the paper supplies.)
There is a shift of the roadmap of success nowadays.
We were taught to go to schools, get a degree and work to be rich. That is farthest from the truth. We are victims of that teachings. That is a lie peddle by University and colleges to get people to enroll in schools for them to get rich.
The Kramers are fortunate indeed. They have the Genes and family upbringing to take advantage of their strengths. We cannot fault them for that.
And they are wise enough to recognize the model that a college degree and working 9-5 is not a recipe for being a millionaire.
But non linear earning models are as well multiple income streams as the right model.
That is why financial literacy is really needed to be taught correctly.
Some people are logical enough to recognize that to become a millionaire they have to do other things that 99% of the other people cant, dont do, or wont do.
I have driven and used a E150 before and I really did not like it. It is a pig to drive, and the interior is like from the 1980s. Thick plastics and noisy as hell if you go 140 to 150kph.
Post by: DPT on Jul 28, 2019 at 04:39 PM
sa ganung place siguro hindi magiging burden sakin yun. kung my ganun ako jan ko gugustuhin mag retire. kayang kaya naman siguro i sustain ng business nila yan. sa location palang aT view nakakrelax na sobra.
I meant burden to maintain it. Physically, emotionally, and monetarily.
If you have alot of gizmos and high tech things inside your house. They are failure points. The more things you have in your house that can break. The most failure points you have.
Especially if you just want to live your life and not be bothered by leaky faucets, roof leaks, pool clogs, etc etc. You want to live a life not the house running your life by try to fix issues here and there because it is a high maintenance part of your life.
Imagine a 65 year old retiree living in that house and running it by himself without a support team of maids. dedicated administrator and contracted services?
I bet for each issue you solve, 2 or 3 new problem or task is needed to be done.
Just arranging a schedule for a pool cleaning sessions. How many tasks does it create from calling, scheduling. follow up, monitoring, actual cleaning, follow up. etc etc?
He has an automated house and most probably his app is cloud based and needs an active internet connection to login to his account.
If the internet goes down. I bet he will have a nightmare. Imagine a voice controlled assistant that will reply to you that it does not have an internet connection.
Post by: praktikal on Jul 28, 2019 at 08:27 PM
Post by: keema on Aug 05, 2019 at 11:04 PM
Post by: JeromeA on Aug 06, 2019 at 12:56 AM
I meant burden to maintain it. Physically, emotionally, and monetarily.
If you have alot of gizmos and high tech things inside your house. They are failure points. The more things you have in your house that can break. The most failure points you have.
Especially if you just want to live your life and not be bothered by leaky faucets, roof leaks, pool clogs, etc etc. You want to live a life not the house running your life by try to fix issues here and there because it is a high maintenance part of your life.
Imagine a 65 year old retiree living in that house and running it by himself without a support team of maids. dedicated administrator and contracted services?
I bet for each issue you solve, 2 or 3 new problem or task is needed to be done.
Just arranging a schedule for a pool cleaning sessions. How many tasks does it create from calling, scheduling. follow up, monitoring, actual cleaning, follow up. etc etc?
He has an automated house and most probably his app is cloud based and needs an active internet connection to login to his account.
If the internet goes down. I bet he will have a nightmare. Imagine a voice controlled assistant that will reply to you that it does not have an internet connection.
yan ang nagagawa ng pera nila. kung ganyan ako ka yaman tapos my stable business no need na problemahin yan. call and call nalang ng mga mag aayos. even sa kuryente nila diba sabi ni doug naisip nya na daw yun. kaya nagpa solar siya. very well planned ang bahay nya kaya sigurado alam nya paano i maintain para hindi maging burden sa kanila yun.
Post by: JeromeA on Aug 06, 2019 at 12:56 AM
So may nakaka-alam ba ng setup nya?
speakers lang. klipsch + svs.
Post by: t-bone on Aug 06, 2019 at 04:08 AM
I meant burden to maintain it. Physically, emotionally, and monetarily.
If you have alot of gizmos and high tech things inside your house. They are failure points. The more things you have in your house that can break. The most failure points you have.
Especially if you just want to live your life and not be bothered by leaky faucets, roof leaks, pool clogs, etc etc. You want to live a life not the house running your life by try to fix issues here and there because it is a high maintenance part of your life.
Imagine a 65 year old retiree living in that house and running it by himself without a support team of maids. dedicated administrator and contracted services?
I bet for each issue you solve, 2 or 3 new problem or task is needed to be done.
Just arranging a schedule for a pool cleaning sessions. How many tasks does it create from calling, scheduling. follow up, monitoring, actual cleaning, follow up. etc etc?
He has an automated house and most probably his app is cloud based and needs an active internet connection to login to his account.
If the internet goes down. I bet he will have a nightmare. Imagine a voice controlled assistant that will reply to you that it does not have an internet connection.
That doesn't stop people from getting big houses with lots of nice stuff.
If Kramer's finances can maintain his abode, what's the problem?
Post by: RastaSega on Aug 06, 2019 at 06:20 PM
Post by: DPT on Aug 06, 2019 at 07:20 PM
That doesn't stop people from getting big houses with lots of nice stuff.
If Kramer's finances can maintain his abode, what's the problem?
In case you missed the point. That house is not for everyone. If people envy them for having that house they basically just see the rainbows and balloons and have no idea how much effort needed to run that house.
Post by: t-bone on Aug 06, 2019 at 09:13 PM
In case you missed the point. That house is not for everyone. If people envy them for having that house they basically just see the rainbows and balloons and have no idea how much effort needed to run that house.
In case you missed the point. If Kramer can afford to run a big house, what is the problem?
I have many friends who have houses bigger than the Kramer's, but I never hear them bitch about the maintenance. Why? Because they can afford to hire people to fix their problems.
Mindset mo kasi pang poor people, "Ay naku, ayoko ng malaking bahay mahirap kasi i-maintain yan."
You have to think like how the rich think, "Lets work to keep the cashflow running, so we can enjoy our great lifestyle."
Post by: praktikal on Aug 06, 2019 at 09:26 PM
"Walang basagan ng trip"
If they fall, they fall. So far sulit na pagpagawa nila ng bahay dahil napapag-usapan sila. For sure na figure out na nila pros & cons nyan. Mukha naman silang may mga pinag-aralan.
As long as masaya sila na walang inaagrabyadong kapwa, ayos na yun. Yun ang pinili nilang lifestyle then so be it. We have ours naman.
Post by: comet on Aug 06, 2019 at 09:48 PM
Post by: Pipo_1925 on Aug 06, 2019 at 09:51 PM
Post by: DPT on Aug 06, 2019 at 11:02 PM
In case you missed the point. If Kramer can afford to run a big house, what is the problem?
I have many friends who have houses bigger than the Kramer's, but I never hear them bitch about the maintenance. Why? Because they can afford to hire people to fix their problems.
Mindset mo kasi pang poor people, "Ay naku, ayoko ng malaking bahay mahirap kasi i-maintain yan."
You have to think like how the rich think, "Lets work to keep the cashflow running, so we can enjoy our great lifestyle."
No wonder Warren Buffet lives in a modest house that he has since 1960s and nowhere near as grand as Kramers house. Even though he is literally more than 10,000x richer than the Kramers.
The rich mindset is totally the opposite of what you are saying. The rich knows the value of money and knows what is an investment an what is a liability.
They are logical and not subject to conspicious consumption. They can resist their wants and knows their needs.
The Chinese are master of this. Even though they are rich and still follow a frugal lifestyle and keep their lives simple for most part.
To you to have a rich mindset is to throw away money because you can afford to throw money away. Be a slave to your wants and buy Maserati, lambos and toys because you can afford it.
That is not what the rich mindset is. That is actually a poverty mindset. It is a poverty mindset because that is how poor people think.
The only difference is you got money, and the actual poor people do not have.
It is like people buying Iphone on credit cards and earning minimun wages. Or being in debt to buy cars, houses.
The rich mindset people buy expensive things because the cost of that expensive thing is only from the interest of their wealth.\
They can buy a condo just from the interest of the investment.
If you buy a condo or a house like that of the Kramer and you are in debt even it is used as a prop for marketing. How is that a Rich mindset? You are still in debt.
Sorry, but you got your financial education backwards.
Post by: Pipo_1925 on Aug 06, 2019 at 11:32 PM
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Post by: t-bone on Aug 06, 2019 at 11:41 PM
No wonder Warren Buffet lives in a modest house that he has since 1960s and nowhere near as grand as Kramers house. Even though he is literally more than 10,000x richer than the Kramers.
The rich mindset is totally the opposite of what you are saying. The rich knows the value of money and knows what is an investment an what is a liability.
They are logical and not subject to conspicious consumption. They can resist their wants and knows their needs.
The Chinese are master of this. Even though they are rich and still follow a frugal lifestyle and keep their lives simple for most part.
To you to have a rich mindset is to throw away money because you can afford to throw money away. Be a slave to your wants and buy Maserati, lambos and toys because you can afford it.
That is not what the rich mindset is. That is actually a poverty mindset. It is a poverty mindset because that is how poor people think.
The only difference is you got money, and the actual poor people do not have.
It is like people buying Iphone on credit cards and earning minimun wages. Or being in debt to buy cars, houses.
The rich mindset people buy expensive things because the cost of that expensive thing is only from the interest of their wealth.\
They can buy a condo just from the interest of the investment.
If you buy a condo or a house like that of the Kramer and you are in debt even it is used as a prop for marketing. How is that a Rich mindset? You are still in debt.
Sorry, but you got your financial education backwards.
Obviously, konti lang kilala mong mayayaman. Warren Buffett is an exception to how the truly rich live.
Frugal daw mga rich? Si Gokongwei lives in North Forbes , George Tee goes around in a Rolls Royce, Tessie Sy hops about in her Agusta helicopter. Iba na ang panahon ngayon. I know because I came from a premiere Chinoy school. Gone are the days when the business owner wears the same old clothes everyday and sleeps in the bodega.
Like I said in the earlier post, Doug's house is part of the Team Kramer business. They are projecting themselves as the "ideal" family. WIth this image, they earn Millions every year endorsing and being seen with sponsored products.
If they maintain their Kramer business cashflow, the house will eventually pay for itself.
Don't worry about them, worry more about yourself.
Post by: Pipo_1925 on Aug 06, 2019 at 11:51 PM
Obviously, konti lang kilala mong mayayaman. Warren Buffett is an exception to how the truly rich live.baka umabot pa ang usapan sa lifestyle ni MJ.
Frugal daw mga rich? Si Gokongwei lives in North Forbes , George Tee goes around in a Rolls Royce, Tessie Sy hops about in her Agusta helicopter. Iba na ang panahon ngayon. I know because I came from a premiere Chinoy school.
Like I said in the earlier post, Doug's house is part of the Team Kramer business. They are projecting themselves as the "ideal" family. WIth this image, they earn Millions every year endorsing and being seen with sponsored products.
If they maintain their Kramer business cashflow, the house will eventually pay for itself.
Don't worry about them, worry more about yourself.
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Post by: JeromeA on Aug 07, 2019 at 11:16 AM
Post by: ALICE GO on Aug 07, 2019 at 12:36 PM
Post by: JeromeA on Aug 07, 2019 at 12:53 PM
TAMA si Sir DPT. My thinking, if it may sound crab-like and self-pitying, was altered from the insights he has shared here. Its like getting a fastracked, in-a-nutshell course in financial & estate planning. Could it be that he has written a column for a business daily before?
whatever it is, it's not our problem anymore. as what sir RastaSega said lets just talk about his set up.
Post by: DPT on Aug 07, 2019 at 02:03 PM
Obviously, konti lang kilala mong mayayaman. Warren Buffett is an exception to how the truly rich live.
Frugal daw mga rich? Si Gokongwei lives in North Forbes , George Tee goes around in a Rolls Royce, Tessie Sy hops about in her Agusta helicopter. Iba na ang panahon ngayon. I know because I came from a premiere Chinoy school. Gone are the days when the business owner wears the same old clothes everyday and sleeps in the bodega.
Like I said in the earlier post, Doug's house is part of the Team Kramer business. They are projecting themselves as the "ideal" family. WIth this image, they earn Millions every year endorsing and being seen with sponsored products.
If they maintain their Kramer business cashflow, the house will eventually pay for itself.
Don't worry about them, worry more about yourself.
Oh well.. You know you can deduct expenses that is related to your business. Or the Augusta Helicopter is under a business whose depreciation cost can be deducted as an expense or the cost of flying it can be deducted as a cost of doing business.
Basically George Tee can buy a Rolls Royce without doing nothing. That is rich. He makes his money do the working while he bum around all day.
But if you do blogging like the Kramers or spend time building a house, making videos, appearing in commercials etc etc. They are not really rich. It is basically they are not on the same Quadrant as defined by R. Kurosaki. They still trade time for money. They are basically highly paid professionals. If they stop appearing in commercials or by absurdity they got banned appearing in public, on TV, cinema and youtube. Their income stream is cut
Buying a house in the Philippines is a big expense financially. You cannot deduct interest expense. Unlike in the States where interest paid on mortgages you can deduct it somehwhat.
The Pinoy mindset is. They want to get rich to get all the luxury they want. As opposite to the rich mindset where they want to get rich because it is the proper way of living.
I hope you see the difference now. I respect your opinion. But if you ask me. You have to be updated. Financial education is evolving like everything else.
Post by: JeromeA on Aug 07, 2019 at 03:02 PM
They are basically highly paid professionals. If they stop appearing in commercials or by absurdity they got banned appearing in public, on TV, cinema and youtube. Their income stream is cut
ah grabe. super negative. inunahan mo na agad sir ah.
first of all expected mo na high cost ang maintenance ng lifestyle mo you will stop appearing in commercials?i bet bago sila mag retire jan sir 100% sure meron ng very stable business or other source of income to maintain their lifestyle.
Post by: DPT on Aug 07, 2019 at 07:46 PM
ah grabe. super negative. inunahan mo na agad sir ah.
first of all expected mo na high cost ang maintenance ng lifestyle mo you will stop appearing in commercials?i bet bago sila mag retire jan sir 100% sure meron ng very stable business or other source of income to maintain their lifestyle.
It is a fact of life that nothing is certain. We are saying what if?
That is a classic case of a hamster inside a turn wheel or in a rat race. If you stop or for some unknown reason something stopped you what you are doing now you to earn you will be in a financial crisis.
Before you be able to retire 100% in the future you have to contend with the present.
Alot of people dream of a retirement lifestyle without doing anything now. Or what they are doing now is disconnected with their future retirement plan.
They are thinking it "will just fix itself" or they will win a lotto in the future.
Like for example now. If you have a house and in debt. And you want to retire in the future at a certain date. Everything you do now will either make it happen or not. How big of a house or debt interest you will pay will affect your future retirement plan.
But alot of people are too oblivious to face that fact and still hope that they will retire without putting in the effort needed.
Post by: jjjeronimo on Aug 07, 2019 at 08:26 PM
Post by: ricky on Aug 07, 2019 at 11:00 PM
sino kaya nag setup ng HT niya? naintriga ko kung sino gumawa.
He bought the top of the line sony laser projector from avdi also the crestron automation system. I heard he designed and planned everything. Sya nasunod talaga even with the time line of build. Passionate din sya sa hobby na ito and im sure he is very happy with the result. Wala naman talaga perfect na scenario eh.
Also if 11.2.4, baka nag parallel or series or Y connection sya ng 2pairs ng surrounds. Wala pa kasi 15ch processor/avr na alam ko.
To sum it up, kanya kanyang passion yan.
Post by: Pipo_1925 on Aug 08, 2019 at 02:12 AM
He bought the top of the line sony laser projector from avdi also the crestron automation system. I heard he designed and planned everything. Sya nasunod talaga even with the time line of build. Passionate din sya sa hobby na ito and im sure he is very happy with the result. Wala naman talaga perfect na scenario eh.
Also if 11.2.4, baka nag parallel or series or Y connection sya ng 2pairs ng surrounds. Wala pa kasi 15ch processor/avr na alam ko.
To sum it up, kanya kanyang passion yan.
Nice. Im assuming he bought the speakers somewhere else. Correct me if i’m wrong. avdi does not carry klipsch and svs. Si mike c ang alam ko pag svs then klipsch marami namang shop ang nagbebenta.
Post by: Ice Storm on Aug 08, 2019 at 03:25 AM
Grabe the personal attacks on these celebs.
It's disgusting.
I'd expect it from TipidPC, PEx or r/Philippines but I'd think PDVD wouldn't have this mental illness.
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 08, 2019 at 05:50 AM
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Post by: jjjeronimo on Aug 08, 2019 at 06:38 AM
The overlooking infinity pool! Any ideas where's the place located? Obviously I'm not from Manila. Very nice location they got.
Looks like it's somewhere in Antipolo.
Post by: anya618 on Aug 08, 2019 at 07:15 AM
Post by: JeromeA on Aug 08, 2019 at 11:32 AM
It is a fact of life that nothing is certain. We are saying what if?
That is a classic case of a hamster inside a turn wheel or in a rat race. If you stop or for some unknown reason something stopped you what you are doing now you to earn you will be in a financial crisis.
Before you be able to retire 100% in the future you have to contend with the present.
Alot of people dream of a retirement lifestyle without doing anything now. Or what they are doing now is disconnected with their future retirement plan.
They are thinking it "will just fix itself" or they will win a lotto in the future.
Like for example now. If you have a house and in debt. And you want to retire in the future at a certain date. Everything you do now will either make it happen or not. How big of a house or debt interest you will pay will affect your future retirement plan.
But alot of people are too oblivious to face that fact and still hope that they will retire without putting in the effort needed.
simple... just put it to your mind, mas may alam sila sa pinag gagawa nila kesa sayo... no need to explain blah blah blah.
grabe sa reaction, sobrang negative. samantalang ako, naisip ko lang ang cool nun playroom nung mga kids and ofcourse better speakers ^_^
exactly bro. lahat ng comments dito prior sa comment ni DPT ay all about HT. biglang binasag ang trip. haha.
Post by: JeromeA on Aug 08, 2019 at 11:33 AM
kung sa isang member kaya dito ang bahay na yan, same comments pa rin kaya? >:D
malamang hindi. palibhasa hindi mababasa ni doug to eh. kung member lang dito si doug malamang baka lumuhod pa yan sa harap ni doug.
Post by: praktikal on Aug 08, 2019 at 12:17 PM
Naalala ko sabi ng prof ko dati, "what is beautiful to you may not be beautiful to others".
Meron tayong mga "sana", "dapat", etc. Meron tayong mga wants and needs. May mga "walang magawa sa pera". Meron namang kuripot, matipid o praktikal na kagaya ko. Pero ang pinakamahalaga, masaya ka na nakakapagpasaya sa iba na walang inaagrabyado. Hindi galing sa iligal ang angking yaman.
Bawat nakikita natin sa iba ay sapat na para malinawan ang ating kaisipan kung gagayahin ba natin o hindi. You don't need millions to be happy and contented.
Kung ganun sila eh di sila na. Hindi naman lahat sa atin ay iisa ang direksyong tatahakin. Sagwan ka sa kung saan ka masaya at bahala na ang iba. Kung may sasama syo eh di ayos pero hindi natin kayang hikayating sumama sa atin lahat kahit na gaano kaganda ang iyong nasa isip.
Dahil tayo ay tao. Unique. Different folks with different?
Post by: t-bone on Aug 08, 2019 at 12:42 PM
That is a classic case of a hamster inside a turn wheel or in a rat race. If you stop or for some unknown reason something stopped you what you are doing now you to earn you will be in a financial crisis.
Before you be able to retire 100% in the future you have to contend with the present.
Alot of people dream of a retirement lifestyle without doing anything now. Or what they are doing now is disconnected with their future retirement plan.
They are thinking it "will just fix itself" or they will win a lotto in the future.
Like for example now. If you have a house and in debt. And you want to retire in the future at a certain date. Everything you do now will either make it happen or not. How big of a house or debt interest you will pay will affect your future retirement plan.
But alot of people are too oblivious to face that fact and still hope that they will retire without putting in the effort needed.
You are bashing the Kramers without knowing their real financial capability.
Doug has been playing pro basketball for many years, earning Millions annually. He was an Atenean, so hindi siya Poor and may brains din. His wife comes from a middle class background.
In addition to their healthy income, the couple may have some access to family assets you do not know of. Yet you judge and put them down.
When my dad bought our property in the Metro, he had to sell a provincial lot and my Lolo's longtime San Miguel shares. The Kramers could have done the same.
Let us just enjoy the success of others, as we aspire to achieve ours.
Post by: thebat on Aug 08, 2019 at 01:01 PM
Post by: Pipo_1925 on Aug 08, 2019 at 01:28 PM
malamang hindi. palibhasa hindi mababasa ni doug to eh. kung member lang dito si doug malamang baka lumuhod pa yan sa harap ni doug.anong gagawin niya pag nakaluhod siya kay kramer? :-)
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Post by: wheelee on Aug 08, 2019 at 04:32 PM
You are bashing the Kramers without knowing their real financial capability.
Doug has been playing pro basketball for many years, earning Millions annually. He was an Atenean, so hindi siya Poor and may brains din. His wife comes from a middle class background.
In addition to their healthy income, the couple may have some access to family assets you do not know of. Yet you judge and put them down.
When my dad bought our property in the Metro, he had to sell a provincial lot and my Lolo's longtime San Miguel shares. The Kramers could have done the same.
Let us just enjoy the success of others, as we aspire to achieve ours.
Nice! I like that last line 8)
Post by: JeromeA on Aug 08, 2019 at 04:35 PM
anong gagawin niya pag nakaluhod siya kay kramer? :-)
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baka di na nga kailangan lumuhod sa tangkad ni kramer bro. haha
Post by: Pipo_1925 on Aug 08, 2019 at 05:08 PM
baka di na nga kailangan lumuhod sa tangkad ni kramer bro. hahahahahaha. OT na tayo. balik na tayo sa HT setup niya.
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Post by: Ice Storm on Aug 08, 2019 at 05:41 PM
Rather than getting consumer-grade equipment I'd get the same commercial-grade hardware that malls like Evia uses in their smallest laser projected theaters.
Or better yet a Samsung microLED theater display https://youtu.be/ZcaCANnihMw
And ditch blu-ray Kramer...
Go Red Carpet (https://www.redcarpethomecinema.com/how-it-works/)
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/07/business/media/movie-rentals-red-carpet-home-cinema.html
The Kramers are known to rent out the smallest Evia theater for private viewings for family and friends.
Post by: DPT on Aug 08, 2019 at 06:58 PM
You are bashing the Kramers without knowing their real financial capability.
Doug has been playing pro basketball for many years, earning Millions annually. He was an Atenean, so hindi siya Poor and may brains din. His wife comes from a middle class background.
In addition to their healthy income, the couple may have some access to family assets you do not know of. Yet you judge and put them down.
When my dad bought our property in the Metro, he had to sell a provincial lot and my Lolo's longtime San Miguel shares. The Kramers could have done the same.
Let us just enjoy the success of others, as we aspire to achieve ours.
To you it is bashing. To me I am calling a spade a spade. Its their money and their life. I really do not care what they do. I bet they have millions or so. But you have to think that they are still active in show biz, making a decent living, working. They might be doing this for fun.
But you might also think that they have to do it because its their bread or butter.
If you want to live in a fairy tale dream and someone told you the basic facts of life that shattered it. You might call him a negative person. etc etc.
As I said. I was just explaining to someone that she/he should not be envious about big houses or flashy cars. But you reacted like I am attacking you personally by hitting a nerve when you are reading that explanation.
If i hit a nerve accidentally . Maybe it is a good thing and something for you to think about.
Post by: shuttertrigger on Aug 09, 2019 at 10:55 PM
Post by: Pipo_1925 on Aug 09, 2019 at 11:21 PM
Just saw the video. Astig HT room at hot na hot pa din si Francesca! :-*oh yeah. 100% agree ako kay Cheska
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Post by: t-bone on Aug 10, 2019 at 03:59 AM
To you it is bashing. To me I am calling a spade a spade. Its their money and their life. I really do not care what they do. I bet they have millions or so. But you have to think that they are still active in show biz, making a decent living, working. They might be doing this for fun.
But you might also think that they have to do it because its their bread or butter.
If you want to live in a fairy tale dream and someone told you the basic facts of life that shattered it. You might call him a negative person. etc etc.
As I said. I was just explaining to someone that she/he should not be envious about big houses or flashy cars. But you reacted like I am attacking you personally by hitting a nerve when you are reading that explanation.
If i hit a nerve accidentally . Maybe it is a good thing and something for you to think about.
Why should I get affected by this.
Like you, I call a spade a spade.
You say that the Kramers made a mistake building a big house. I say if they are financially capable of doing it, it is not a problem. Yun lang yun.
Many years down the road, that property would be worth many times what it is now. And the Kramers will tell you that is the best investment they ever made. And the pride and happiness it brings would be immeasurable.
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 10, 2019 at 04:08 AM
oh yeah. 100% agree ako kay Cheska
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Just saw the video. Astig HT room at hot na hot pa din si Francesca! :-*
kay doug wala kayo masabi? ;D ;D
Post by: JeromeA on Aug 10, 2019 at 04:32 AM
Why should I get affected by this.
Like you, I call a spade a spade.
You say that the Kramers made a mistake building a big house. I say if they are financially capable of doing it, it is not a problem. Yun lang yun.
Many years down the road, that property would be worth many times what it is now. And the Kramers will tell you that is the best investment they ever made. And the pride and happiness it brings would be immeasurable.
matindi ang paninindigan nya bro hein. hayaan mo nalang.
Post by: keema on Aug 10, 2019 at 05:04 AM
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 10, 2019 at 05:08 AM
matindi ang paninindigan nya bro hein. hayaan mo nalang.paninindigan pala yun? ;D
Post by: praktikal on Aug 10, 2019 at 06:14 AM
Post by: kefq on Aug 10, 2019 at 08:15 AM
OT konti, sino na kaya ang gumagamit sa HT ni Kuya Germs? Mga ilang years nya ba yun napakinabangan? Nagkaroon ba ng upgrade yun?
Nice question, I remember envying kuya Germs' setup whenever he flashes, even for a glimpse. the grandeur of his theater during the time of Mastershowman. Anyway this is another topic which may spur differences in opinion.
Post by: oznola on Aug 11, 2019 at 06:05 PM
Post by: Chancellor on Aug 11, 2019 at 07:00 PM
Looks like it's somewhere in Antipolo.
Its in Valley golf Antipolo
Post by: JeromeA on Aug 11, 2019 at 11:46 PM
featured sa Rated K ngayon ito
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoUlmlodOEE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoUlmlodOEE)
Post by: neilc on Aug 12, 2019 at 09:25 AM
Damn, people without any moral, cultural relevance to society angsarap ng buhay. The guy's got everything, a half-breed wife, beautiful children, and a mansion with a full-pledge home cinema. I'm aspiring all these years to have a Ford E-150 and cannot obtain even a second-hand unit, but this guy got a brand-new Toyota that looks like a Hummer. They're taken to do the commercials left and right, damn they're living it up. Living it up, living out all those fantasies....
Are you sure they don’t have social relevance? And if they don’t have, they don’t have the right to have a good life?
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Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 13, 2019 at 02:35 AM
Are you sure they don’t have social relevance? And if they don’t have, they don’t have the right to have a good life?
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bro naalala ko bigla itong kantang ito ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjD-3os8oyI
Post by: JeromeA on Jan 25, 2021 at 11:40 PM
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1715659708725297/permalink/2609545296003396/?sale_post_id=2609545296003396 (https://www.facebook.com/groups/1715659708725297/permalink/2609545296003396/?sale_post_id=2609545296003396)
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Post by: thebat on Feb 16, 2021 at 09:35 PM
https://youtu.be/VDvvQe0qhiE
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 17, 2021 at 05:43 AM
Post by: comet on Feb 17, 2021 at 01:46 PM
Post by: Peorth on Feb 17, 2021 at 03:48 PM
Speakers
JTR Noesis 215RT (upright speakers) - 3,999$ x 2 = $7,998
JTR Captivator 40000ULF-ST (front subs) - $4,299 x 2 = $8,598
JTR Noesis 210HT ($1799) or 210RM ($2699) (center) - $2,699 (assuming it's the latter, the video isn't clear enough to distinguish what model it is)
JTR Captivator 2400 (rear subs) - $2999 x 2 = $5,998 (said to be "3200 Captivator" but there is no such model in JTR's product page)
JTR 110HT SL surrounds - 1,249$ x 12 = $14,988
Amps
D Sonic M3a-4500-3 - $3,275.00
D Sonic M3a-2800-7 - $3,275.00 x 2 = $6,550
Denon AVC-X8500H (£2,999.00) = $4,161.67
$54,267.67 x 48.36 = PhP 2,624,140.32
AVRs (servo motor)
Stavol ST-5kVA AVR x 2 (for front subwoofers) - PhP 8,399
Imarflex SED-5000S (3500W) AVR - PhP 19,000
TOTAL: PhP 2,651,539.32
Excludes other stuff like the projector since it wasn't mentioned in the video.
Post by: thebat on Feb 17, 2021 at 05:10 PM
Post by: Peorth on Feb 17, 2021 at 06:18 PM
Incidentally, I was surprised at how expensive the Imarflex 3.5 kW AVR (19k) is, considering the Stavol 5 kW AVR is only 8.4k.
Post by: shuttertrigger on Feb 17, 2021 at 10:00 PM
I have no knowledge or interest in home theater stuff but I did watch the FB video. I was curious how much the whole thing cost so I did a little digging. Here's the setup shown in the video:
Speakers
JTR Noesis 215RT (upright speakers) - 3,999$ x 2 = $7,998
JTR Captivator 40000ULF-ST (front subs) - $4,299 x 2 = $8,598
JTR Noesis 210HT ($1799) or 210RM ($2699) (center) - $2,699 (assuming it's the latter, the video isn't clear enough to distinguish what model it is)
JTR Captivator 2400 (rear subs) - $2999 x 2 = $5,998 (said to be "3200 Captivator" but there is no such model in JTR's product page)
JTR 110HT SL surrounds - 1,249$ x 12 = $14,988
Amps
D Sonic M3a-4500-3 - $3,275.00
D Sonic M3a-2800-7 - $3,275.00 x 2 = $6,550
Denon AVC-X8500H (£2,999.00) = $4,161.67
$54,267.67 x 48.36 = PhP 2,624,140.32
AVRs (servo motor)
Stavol ST-5kVA AVR x 2 (for front subwoofers) - PhP 8,399
Imarflex SED-5000S (3500W) AVR - PhP 19,000
TOTAL: PhP 2,651,539.32
Excludes other stuff like the projector since it wasn't mentioned in the video.
:o :o :o
Post by: synchro_01 on Feb 17, 2021 at 11:07 PM
Mukhang passion naman ni Kramer yung HT. I just hope he enjoys and uses it daily instead of it being just a room to wow guests and friends when they come over.
Post by: JeromeA on Feb 17, 2021 at 11:51 PM
That total doesn't include the room itself, the acoustics, the seats, lighting, wiring, AC, design, installation, projector, screen, automation etc. My best guess is that if all of those are included then the total might breach 4M to 5M.
Mukhang passion naman ni Kramer yung HT. I just hope he enjoys and uses it daily instead of it being just a room to wow guests and friends when they come over.
Yes pag pinanood mo video kinuwento nya bata plang talaga sya yan na pangarap nya..
By the way shout out kay manong Wayne Pamposa. Sya pala nag set up and calibrate nito..
Post by: CMac on Mar 09, 2021 at 05:09 PM
WAF is non-existent though. Getting vibes that she is tired of the lifestyle.
Post by: shuttertrigger on Jun 10, 2021 at 09:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKPD9ayvNcU
Post by: Peorth on Jun 10, 2021 at 09:44 PM
Post by: synchro_01 on Jun 10, 2021 at 09:55 PM
Post by: t-bone on Jun 10, 2021 at 10:05 PM
nag Solar na daw sila Kramer. From 80K/month down to 35K/mo. Great move
5 Aircons naka on daw sabay-sabay...
Wow :D
Post by: TeddyCuds on Jun 18, 2021 at 12:22 PM