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Home Theater => Audio => Tubes => Topic started by: s2kov on Oct 12, 2004 at 07:04 PM
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Since there is no dedicated thread for Consonance, this will be the start to reveal the good quality of the amp. I once audition the M100 and 300B amps in shangrila plaza and they were sounds good to my ears....
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lipat natin :)
M99 Plus
with cover, parang ST-70
(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid142/pe4ab867bb84aa621e1331c91a3cb570f/f6b0d687.jpg)
without cover, mas gwapito
(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid142/p864601d16121b85cfe7ae6c4d323c14f/f6b0d69b.jpg)
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Mas maganda yun nakahubad!
Ice,
Kamukha nun remote mo oh! ;D
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shoot out na agad natin yan!! preferably, dun sana kila sir obet para mas madaling magbuhat. ;D
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shoot out na agad natin yan!! preferably, dun sana kila sir obet para mas madaling magbuhat. ;D
hindi problema yan attorney, madami pupunta kaya madami din magbubuhat. ;D very exciting naman!
teka, ano yun mga tubes pala nyan?
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Consonance M99plus tube integrated amplifier
The fifth anniversary model, with volume and input selector. Due to reasonable input sensitivity, can be connected direct to CD source. If connected using the T99 pre-amplifier the sonic result will be even better. The circuit composes of three stages: Sovtek 12AX7LPS (ECC83) as the first SRPP stage, followed by Shuguang 6N8P (6SN7) driver stage with Shuguang 6P3P (6L6GC/KT66/5881) as the final power stage in class push pull class AB configuration. This is a classical circuit and the sonic performance is very high due to the design of the output transformer, tube circuit optimization and years of experience in the development of the M100SE. Uses fixed bias design with external individual bias adjustment for each 6P3P.
Control Functions: Volume, Select, Power On/Off
Inputs: CD, Aux and Line in
Specifications:
OUTPUT IMPEDANCE: 4,8 ohms. (User selectable)
Output Power at 1 kHz for less than 1%THD: 25W x2
Bandwidth at - 3dB: 6Hz to 60kHz
Input Sensitivity for Rated Output: 180mV
Signal / noise: 90dB
Input interfaces: 3 groups (RCA)
Input Impedance: 50k
Consumption: 90W
Tubes: 6P3Px4, 6SN7x2, 12AX7x2
Dimension: 446 (L) x 264 (W) x 155(H) mm
Weigh: 17kg(Net); 21kg(Shipping)
pre, what does SRPP means?
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Shunt Regulated Push Pull
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Consonance M99plus tube integrated amplifier
The fifth anniversary model, with volume and input selector. Due to reasonable input sensitivity, can be connected direct to CD source. If connected using the T99 pre-amplifier the sonic result will be even better. The circuit composes of three stages: Sovtek 12AX7LPS (ECC83) as the first SRPP stage, followed by Shuguang 6N8P (6SN7) driver stage with Shuguang 6P3P (6L6GC/KT66/5881) as the final power stage in class push pull class AB configuration. This is a classical circuit and the sonic performance is very high due to the design of the output transformer, tube circuit optimization and years of experience in the development of the M100SE. Uses fixed bias design with external individual bias adjustment for each 6P3P.
Control Functions: Volume, Select, Power On/Off
Inputs: CD, Aux and Line in
Specifications:
OUTPUT IMPEDANCE: 4,8 ohms. (User selectable)
Output Power at 1 kHz for less than 1%THD: 25W x2
Bandwidth at - 3dB: 6Hz to 60kHz
Input Sensitivity for Rated Output: 180mV
Signal / noise: 90dB
Input interfaces: 3 groups (RCA)
Input Impedance: 50k
Consumption: 90W
Tubes: 6P3Px4, 6SN7x2, 12AX7x2
Dimension: 446 (L) x 264 (W) x 155(H) mm
Weigh: 17kg(Net); 21kg(Shipping)
pre, what does SRPP means?
Correct si master s2kov, ganda yan SRPP sir.
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shoot out na agad natin yan!! preferably, dun sana kila sir obet para mas madaling magbuhat. ;D
SHOOTOUT NA!!
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Tourney,
Puwede ako magbuhat... kaso baka maiuwi ko yung mabuhat ko. ahehehe... ;D
shoot out na agad natin yan!! preferably, dun sana kila sir obet para mas madaling magbuhat. ;D
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Jo, this is what frank's impression re SRPP.
Same mistakes over and over again: never use a stage with poor PSRR in an amp wich itself uses a topology that has hardly any PSRR to speak of....
Unless of course you're prepared to regulated the whole shebang, don't blame a particular topology unless you know why it fails to deliver....
Cheers,
The SRPP and mostly all stacked tube configurations I know of have poor PSRR so they really need a stiff, well filtered PS to work optimally.
SE amplifiers don't benefit from the PP noise cancelation effects either and have essentially their entire PS in series with the circuit.
Combining both SRPP and SE topology without paying attention to the PSRR problem inherent in both is just begging for a poor performance IMO.
People like John "Budda" Camille, Denis Boyle, Lynn Olson et all, are well aware of this and go through an awful lot of trouble to avoid this pittfall by using regulated supplies.
Preamplifiers, being usually SE designs suffer from the very same problems which is one reason why I so often insist on paying attention to PS design: it is a modulated power supply you'll be listening to in the end.
Cheers,
Correct si master s2kov, ganda yan SRPP sir.
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shoot out na agad natin yan!! preferably, dun sana kila sir obet para mas madaling magbuhat. ;D
Wow! Aga nyan Sir! Di pa nag-iinit hehehe. Anyway, maganda yan using Shuguang Tubes compared to NOS! Gusto mo lang marinig yan using NOS tubes e hehehehe! Fish Atty.
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Jo, this is what frank's impression re SRPP.
Same mistakes over and over again: never use a stage with poor PSRR in an amp wich itself uses a topology that has hardly any PSRR to speak of....
Unless of course you're prepared to regulated the whole shebang, don't blame a particular topology unless you know why it fails to deliver....
Cheers,
The SRPP and mostly all stacked tube configurations I know of have poor PSRR so they really need a stiff, well filtered PS to work optimally.
SE amplifiers don't benefit from the PP noise cancelation effects either and have essentially their entire PS in series with the circuit.
Combining both SRPP and SE topology without paying attention to the PSRR problem inherent in both is just begging for a poor performance IMO.
People like John "Budda" Camille, Denis Boyle, Lynn Olson et all, are well aware of this and go through an awful lot of trouble to avoid this pittfall by using regulated supplies.
Preamplifiers, being usually SE designs suffer from the very same problems which is one reason why I so often insist on paying attention to PS design: it is a modulated power supply you'll be listening to in the end.
Cheers,
Nice read Andy! Thanks for sharing. ;)
Frank sent me a caution on a current project that contains almost the same outline, PSRR and PSU design. This is in line with a SE preamp whose performance relies on the PSU, short of a cct with poor PSRR.
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Frank sent me a caution on a current project that contains almost the same outline, PSRR and PSU design. This is in line with a SE preamp whose performance relies on the PSU, short of a cct with poor PSRR.
What does this mean ??? How does it relate to Consonance's design ???
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What does this mean ??? How does it relate to Consonance's design ???
The 1st stage of the Consonance is an SRPP, studies shows that it is something that needs a very good power supply to perform well. Probably that is why the M99 is ss rectified, for easier psu regulation.
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Atty. Mabilis siguro tunog niyan SS rectified pala yan. Okey yan sa mga kondo drums at big bands. Kahit ilakas mo volume lalong gumaganda tunog niyan. Para ka ng naka 70 watter na solid state niyan. ;D
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shoot out na agad natin yan!! preferably, dun sana kila sir obet para mas madaling magbuhat. ;D
ok lang with me. check ko lang skeds ko and advise best date(s) in advance :D
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with reference to the M99+ amp, which one should make a more noticeable sonic improvement, changing the 12AX7 tubes or the 6SN7 tubes? i'm not inclined to change the 6L6 output tubes at this time. what brand of tubes should I go for?
thanks in advance ;D
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Atty,
12ax7 - Telefunken
6sn7 - Tungsol
My build in active preamp ba yan?? kung meron yun 12ax7 yan..
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Attney,
I think it would be the changing of the 12AX7 that would give you more benefits sonically. As always, YMMV.
JojoD
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totally agree atty!
IMHO, changing output tubes wouldn't bring that much change in sound quality.
Better to change the 12ax7 first with any of the following, IMO:
telefunken - very musical
amperex "bugle boy" 12ax7 (this is a different tube variant from amperex 12ax7) - full of detail
rca "blackplates" - mids are airy
;) ;)
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Atty,
Better borrow different brands muna para ma home audition mo and find out ano type mo.. :)
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Atty. Sir Rony and I met at Starbucks Magallanes last night, he can't believe about your interest with analog gear hehehe. BTW, sama naman ako sa session nyo, it seems he will bring his collection of 6sn7 (Tungsol), 12ax7(Tele) & many more...!
Kailan ba? gusto ko rin marinig para may idea na ako!
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I'm not an avid fan of tube-equipped gears until I auditioned the Consonance m99plus integrated tube amp. Tube amps are misconceived as expensive pieces of equipment and are available only to a privileged and moneyed audiophiles. Inasmuch as this amp had been mass-produced in China, they are reasonably priced to afford tube newbies like me to explore and experience the wonderfully magical sound of tubes. Thus, owning this competitively priced tube amp, sporting the Consonance brand, adds pride of ownership and brings tube quality sound within the budget of almost every music lover.
My sudden swing of preference and growing interest to tube amps was the result of my latest conclusion that CD sound can never approximate the analog sound of the resurrected vinyls. Be that as it may, a tube amp can nonetheless, give life to the clinical and harsh sound of most CD players, which can often sound smoother and more musical when played through a tube amplifier. This premise goes without saying that tube amps are the better amps if compared to solid state amps but since my musical preference is now leaning towards the quieter genre and more relaxing music, it necessarily follows that I have to follow the route that would put me closer to the music. Gone are the days when I crave for the slam-bang and kick-ass bass of a solid state amp. Now, my aural experience begins when I listen to the more soothing sound of tubes that occasionally brings shivers to the bone and spine-tingling sensation when playing some of my favorite CD tracks.
The m99plus features 4 Shuguang 6P3P output tubes (which can be replaced by 6L6s, KT-66s and 5881s), 2 Shuguang 6N8P driver tubes (which can be replaced by 6SN7s and VT-231s), 2 Electro-Harmonix 12AX7EH pre-amp tubes configured in a SRPP circuitry, 3 toroidal transformers, 3 gold plated line inputs, large high quality gold plated 5-way speaker binding posts in 8 ohms and 4 ohms tap, all housed in a massive metal chassis with wooded side panels, weighing almost 18 Kgs. The m99plus is a solid-state rectified amp and equipped with a solidly-built remote control allowing you to adjust the volume.
After almost 1 month of breaking-in, the transformers may have already settled down and are now bringing out the best sound they can get. The bass is fuller, the mids warmer and sweeter but the highs needs further extension and relatively rolled-off without much air. I went to the boondocks to test my amp with the new Wharfedales Diamond 9.2 and 9.4 which were loaned on home audition by Spectra Audio Video to hans adriene. Using a turn table as the source, the amp can easily cope up with fast beat music playing some tracks from the album of the Queen and The Cure without muddling the sound and faithfully bringing out each instrumentation with clarity and detail. Playing around with 6sn7s and 12ax7s spare tubes of some fellow members, we tried tube rolling different tubes to get a combination that would give a better sound. First, we tried changing the stock Shuguang 6N8P driver tubes to Sylvania 6SN7GTB. Remarkably, the amp began to breathe with so much atmosphere and seemingly unrestricted airiness. The soundstage simply became so expansive with dramatic improvement in the high frequency extension. Then we plugged RCA 6SN7GTBs and still obtained a similarly desirable sound than that offered by the stock Chinese tubes but the Sylvania 6SN7GTBs have smoother highs and better soundstage. We did try replacing the Electro-Harmonix 12ax7s with Telefunken 12ax7s and retained the RCA 6SN7GTBs as driver tubes - the result was, I guessed, the most optimal sound the m99+ can muster. Changing the RCA 6SN7GTBs with Sylvania 6SN7GTBs at the driver stage and retaining the Telefunkens on the linestage is a bit overkill and would somewhat give a hint of sibilance playing some Jeena Lodwick tracks. All these tubes were tried with the new Wharfedale Diamond 9.2 speakers bi-wired to the amp using XLO ER-14 and XLO PRO650F.
The amp became more imposing when hooked to kimpao's AMX tube pre-amp tweaked by no less than the emerging tweak master - JojoD. The m99+ with an active tube pre-amp is a tough act to follow as they jointly stirred up so much bloom and ambience. Even fingertip-friction sounds of the guitars can be heard with similar likeness. The sonic improvement conveyed by the pre-amp is like getting the singer closer to the audience, thus, bringing more life to the music.
With better tubes plugged to a good amp like m99+, the Wharfedale Diamond 9.2s suddenly became an instant hit among the listeners. In fact, the 9.2s are preferred over the 9.4s by many since the floorstander would sound boxy and sometimes boomy. One lesson learned is that - spending so much on speakers is not at all necessary as long as you have a good tube amp like the m99+.
Associated Equipment:
Yamaha CD Player
Technics Turn Table
AMX ConTodo MkII Pre-amp
XLO Pro650F
XLO ER14
DIY silver wire interconnects
Wharfedale Diamond 9.2s and 9.4s
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that was an entertaining review parekuy.
i thought i was reading a review on audio equipment in an audiophile magazine.
congrats again.
wish i can give your amp a listen.
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audioslave,
salamat sir at nadinig na din namin yan amp mo! ;) enjoy ako sa session, ang gaganda ng mga gears. ;D
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salamat attorney amp mo maganda lalo na nung naka TELEFUKEN hehehe upgrade na hirap makalimutan yan at ito rin hirap sa tube di ka pwedeng magcustomize nang tube para isang gastusan na yong bang parang bumibili nang pizza may pangalan na ito lagay mo dyan,ito gusto
e ung MB100 kailan kaya baka drawing lang ito ;D ;D ;D ;D
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salamat attorney amp mo maganda lalo na nung naka TELEFUKEN hehehe upgrade na hirap makalimutan yan at ito rin hirap sa tube di ka pwedeng magcustomize nang tube para isang gastusan na yong bang parang bumibili nang pizza may pangalan na ito lagay mo dyan,ito gusto
e ung MB100 kailan kaya baka drawing lang ito ;D ;D ;D ;D
Niloloko mo naman ako eh, van ng mercedes yun mb100 eh, baka yun m100+ ang sinasabi mo manong! ;D ;D ;D
bawal ang pikon ha! ;D
joke joke joke!
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e ung MB100 kailan kaya baka drawing lang ito ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D mali nga ata spelling
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salamat attorney amp mo maganda lalo na nung naka TELEFUKEN hehehe upgrade na hirap makalimutan yan at ito rin hirap sa tube di ka pwedeng magcustomize nang tube para isang gastusan na yong bang parang bumibili nang pizza may pangalan na ito lagay mo dyan,ito gusto
e ung MB100 kailan kaya baka drawing lang ito ;D ;D ;D ;D
ay mali ito pala tama M100+ >:D >:D >:D
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Niloloko mo naman ako eh, van ng mercedes yun mb100 eh, baka yun m100+ ang sinasabi mo manong! ;D ;D ;D
bawal ang pikon ha! ;D
joke joke joke!
Dr KYgelli, pwede bang ma-arkila yan? Ahahahahaha............
VERY NICE amp atty. Better go hunting for NOS tubes. IMHO, I'd go for the RCA / Telefunken combi for driver and linestage as this can bring much bloom and soundstage with a balance of detail. :D
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Sir Audioslave,
That was a nice and comprehensive review. I thought I was on the wrong site, kala ko Stereophile or Audioholic reviews yung nabasa ko. Congrats on your amp...
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Niloloko mo naman ako eh, van ng mercedes yun mb100 eh, baka yun m100+ ang sinasabi mo manong! ;D ;D ;D
bawal ang pikon ha! ;D
joke joke joke!
;D ;D ;D
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audioslave,
Panalo yan m99 mo sir!!! Saludo ako dyan.. buti na lang di ko inakyat amp ko hehehehehe ;D ;D
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Sir Audioslave...hataw yung m99 mo nakakabilib...nakaka-enganyong bumili...kaso mukhang matinding preparasyon ang kailangan ;D
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Sir Audioslave...hataw yung m99 mo nakakabilib...nakaka-enganyong bumili...kaso mukhang matinding preparasyon ang kailangan ;D
Sir mukhang na SARS ka ng m99 ah? Ahahaha! ;D ;D ;D
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Sir Audioslave...hataw yung m99 mo nakakabilib...nakaka-enganyong bumili...kaso mukhang matinding preparasyon ang kailangan ;D
senor Control,
Mukhang out of control ka ha... nun weekend speaker binanatan mo ngayon naman tube amp.. tsk tsk tsk SARS!! >:D
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sir congrats!
great lookinh great sounding amp! panalo ka sir.
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senor Control,
Mukhang out of control ka ha... nun weekend speaker binanatan mo ngayon naman tube amp.. tsk tsk tsk SARS!! >:D
;D ;D ;D Sir mukhang matinding SARS ito pag-nagkataon... >:D
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Nice review Sir Rony, pwede na pang "Stereophile Review"! My new 100+ (with grills of course) will be available mga 2nd to 3rd week this month! Yung luma di na binitiwan ng pinsan ko, however i decided to get M100+ pa rin but this time with grills like your M99+
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Audioslave,
That was a very comprehensive review you got there. Worthy of a corner at The Absolute Sound. But I will have to make a remark that the Consonance only has a toroidal power transformer. The output transformers are the standard EI core.
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Nice review Sir Rony, pwede na pang "Stereophile Review"! My new 100+ (with grills of course) will be available mga 2nd to 3rd week this month! Yung luma di na binitiwan ng pinsan ko, however i decided to get M100+ pa rin but this time with grills like your M99+
I was looking forward to hearing your old m100+ but unfortunately hindi na pala available. Anyway, I hope this time madidinig ko na yan. I'm sure marami dito especially yun mga taong bundok na gusto madinig yan. Good luck, and advance congrats! ;D
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I was looking forward to hearing your old m100+ but unfortunately hindi na pala available. Anyway, I hope this time madidinig ko na yan. I'm sure marami dito especially yun mga taong bundok na gusto madinig yan. Good luck, and advance congrats! ;D
M100 iluluto (Break in) pa yan.. para swabe na sound.. ;D ;D ;D
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M100 iluluto (Break in) pa yan.. para swabe na sound.. ;D ;D ;D
So matatagalan pa pala ano? Teka, out of the box na lang! Pwede na yun.. ;D ;D ;D
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So matatagalan pa pala ano? Teka, out of the box na lang! Pwede na yun.. ;D ;D ;D
nga naman! sabak kaagad para mas madali ang break-in! ;D ;D ;D
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well attorney's m99+ was impressive, i'm sure the m100+ has it's own character... can't wait! ;D
go go go odyopayl! ;D
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Audioslave,
But I will have to make a remark that the Consonance only has a toroidal power transformer. The output transformers are the standard EI core.
thanks for the correction. napaghahalatang di ako nagbubukas ng gears kaya di ko alam na EI lang pala OPT ng mga Consonance Value Series.
btw, what upgrades have you done to your m100+? pa-share naman, sir. :)
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btw, what upgrades have you done to your m100+? pa-share naman, sir. :)
Uy meron na ba talaga?? session na yan!! ;D ;D
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Let's hear the stock M100+ first before you made those tweak para naman madinig namin. :D
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This can make a huge improvement:
(http://mysite.verizon.net/vze22yzp/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/aricaps_installed.jpg)
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Atty, Sir how's the new turntable? Oks ba tunog with your m99? :)
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kaya pala nagmamadali kayong umalis sa Audio Fair last sat ha ;D ;D Project TT na ba Atty. Congrats!!!
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This can make a huge improvement:
(http://mysite.verizon.net/vze22yzp/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/aricaps_installed.jpg)
nice, naka auricaps na. how about those Wima and electrolytic caps, kaso babaligtarin pa pala yun pcb. ;D
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kaya pala nagmamadali kayong umalis sa Audio Fair last sat ha ;D ;D Project TT na ba Atty. Congrats!!!
correction bro!! it was Bogsle who purchased a new Arcam CD-73T and not me buying a TT. ;D
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oy ok na tweak yan ah... oh panyero anong plano? tweak naba? sayang din yong warranty..... hehehehe.
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Atty. Rony,
musta na consonance natin, nakabili ka na ng tele?
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This can make a huge improvement:
(http://mysite.verizon.net/vze22yzp/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/aricaps_installed.jpg)
Thanks Bruno, is that an Auricap?
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Actually that wasn't my amp. I just found that on the net.
Here is mine:
(http://img112.exs.cx/img112/1727/M100pcb.jpg)
Yup those are Auricaps.
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bruno,
did you modify your amp already? saw some auricaps and riken ;) how about the tubes, have you upgrade?
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Here is mine:
(http://img112.exs.cx/img112/1727/M100pcb.jpg)
Yup those are Auricaps.
Hi Bruno, did you change those resistors & some internal wirings? Can you post improvements after the tweak?
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Anybody heard Consonance M500S monoblocks?
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I haven't done any tube rolling yet. That will have to wait for a while.
A brief description of the tweaks and their effects.
Auricaps - more natural sound compared to the Wima MKP-10.
Riken - in the signal path takes away the graininess and washed out vocals produced by the metal-oxides.
Soundcare - superspike feet for electronics better grip on the bass.
Vishay Dale - in the feedback loop. Not much difference, just gives me peace of mind.
Alps - motorized potentiometer. Wala lang. Masarap lang pihitin. Mas smooth.
Blackgate - noise filter. Wala rin.
Haven't changed wirings yet. Saka na yun pati yung cap sa feedback papalitan ng silvered mica.
Got some fast-soft recovery diodes for the ps pero la pa time ikabit.
Kati na kamay ko magpalit ng electrolytic caps (my favorite tweak of all time) pero masyado masikip sa loob para maglagay ng Blackgates or Elna cerafines.
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the most effective and easiest tweak after all is to replace your stock tubes with better tubes. i'm now using the following tubes in my m99 plus:
Svetlana 6L6GC output tubes
GE 6SN7 (nos) driver tubes
there is no more need to replace the stock Electro Harmonix 12AX7EH in the SRPP stage coz the amp is now at its peak.
i'm now a happier listener ;D ;D ;D
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the most effective and easiest tweak after all is to replace your stock tubes with better tubes. i'm now using the following tubes in my m99 plus:
Svetlana 6L6GC output tubes
GE 6SN7 (nos) driver tubes
there is no more need to replace the stock Electro Harmonix 12AX7EH in the SRPP stage coz the amp is now at its peak.
i'm now a happier listener ;D ;D ;D
Uy Congrats Atty at very happy ka na sir..
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congrats attorney! 8)
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Attny!
Congrats at natuklasan mo na ang iyong happiness! ;D
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ok ah si audioslave naging si happier! e tlgang happy nga!
congrats sir! were happy for you.
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there is no more need to replace the stock Electro Harmonix 12AX7EH in the SRPP stage coz the amp is now at its peak.
congrats din atty, sayang binabantayan ko pa naman yun 12ax7EH mo in case ibenta mo hehehehe.... buti keep mo sir, maganda ang nababasa ko tungkol dyan from actual users sa ibang forum.
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the most effective and easiest tweak after all is to replace your stock tubes with better tubes. i'm now using the following tubes in my m99 plus:
Svetlana 6L6GC output tubes
GE 6SN7 (nos) driver tubes
there is no more need to replace the stock Electro Harmonix 12AX7EH in the SRPP stage coz the amp is now at its peak.
i'm now a happier listener ;D ;D ;D
Uy! Congrats Sir! Sana marinig namin yan sa next session. ;D
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i saw the m100 plus 10th anniversary edition at architectural audio. i heard it has a new set of tubes and power supply when i spoke to the distributor in mandarin during the 2nd hi-fi show. but to my surprise, it was packaged in a newer silver casing with different sets of tubes unlike the el34s of m100 plus. all i can say is "ganda" sobra. aesthetically and musically! i couldn't find a decent pic of this modified m100, maybe others can.
;D 8)
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congrats din atty, sayang binabantayan ko pa naman yun 12ax7EH mo in case ibenta mo hehehehe.... buti keep mo sir, maganda ang nababasa ko tungkol dyan from actual users sa ibang forum.
yeap, i've read some good reviews on the 12ax7EH that's why i'm keeping them. among the newer 12ax7s, the EH is a winner beating even the reference JAN-Philips 12ax7WA and the highly acclaimed Sovtek 12ax7LPS which has a marginal edge only on musical details and dynamics. ;D
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Sabi ko na maganda yun EH mo attny. factoiry stock pa yan dba?
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i saw the m100 plus 10th anniversary edition at architectural audio. i heard it has a new set of tubes and power supply when i spoke to the distributor in mandarin during the 2nd hi-fi show. but to my surprise, it was packaged in a newer silver casing with different sets of tubes unlike the el34s of m100 plus. all i can say is "ganda" sobra. aesthetically and musically! i couldn't find a decent pic of this modified m100, maybe others can.
;D 8)
New version & with tube cover (protection) just like new M99+
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yung basket standard naman sa m99+ and m100+. yung anniv. edition nila all silver parang signature series ng opera audio, wala nang wood and all new circuits na. and difference lang ng basket nya eh may square opening at the rear part for the logo of the 10th anniv plate.
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i saw the m100 plus 10th anniversary edition at architectural audio. i heard it has a new set of tubes and power supply when i spoke to the distributor in mandarin during the 2nd hi-fi show. but to my surprise, it was packaged in a newer silver casing with different sets of tubes unlike the el34s of m100 plus. all i can say is "ganda" sobra. aesthetically and musically! i couldn't find a decent pic of this modified m100, maybe others can.
;D 8)
heard that too.
priced at 70k+
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77k daw 'yos ba hehe isang m100+ and m99+ na yun hehe
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tubes lang katapat nyan... replace the stock Shuguang tubes with better tubes and you'll get an instant upgrade!! 8)
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hahahaha yep mr. slave, i believe you changed most of your tubes to better ones! congrats
agree! nung una kong makausap yung distrubutor ng consonance, i told myself "what if" i just replace the old tubes with new ones eh di ganun din hehehe baka mas maganda pa. pero mahihirapan yata akong makahanap ng tweaked na power supply. hehe so bahala na!
:D
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uyy, congratulations to the new happy owner of Consonance m99 plus. he immediately upgraded the stock tubes and replaced them with GE 6L6GC power tubes and Trigon 6sn7 driver tubes.
enough of the buzz coz you've seen the lite which will last you years of listening pleasure ;D ;D ;D
i'm sure you had a merrier christmas and will have a happier new year!!
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Audioslave:
enough of the buzz coz you've seen the lite which will last you years of listening pleasure ;D ;D ;D
Galing galing mo talaga Atty.
FYI guys in PDVD i owe a lot to Atty. about this upgrade. ;D Maraming salamat talaga ;D ;D ;D
Merry Christmas!! ;)
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Here's a picture of the M100 10th Anniversary Signature Edition
(http://www.operaudio.com.cn/company/operaudio/tu/new/m100-10-1.jpg)
Yes it's about as expensive as M100+ and M99+ combined but it's a completely different amplifier unlike the two siblings that share the same chassis and parts. For one, it has a different set of tubes: 1 x NOS GE 6201 + 2 x NOS JAN Philips 5687 + 4 x 6CA7EH and 2 x Sovtek 5AR4 tube rectifiers. The output tubes are run at full class A which results to a cleaner smoother and more refined sound especially in combination with tube rectification. It has much bigger power and output transformers too which is evident when you lift it - its a heavier and chunkier amp.
This model was not supposed to be sold outside China/HK (which is why its manual is in chinese and there is no mention of it in the english opera website) but we got a sample and we liked it so much that we had to beg and make kulit before Consonance Beijing agreed to send us more.
It is my personal favorite especially with Living Voice speakers so much so that my trusty ole CJ Premier 11a has taken an extensive vacation hehehe ...
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Here's a picture of the M100 10th Anniversary Signature Edition
(http://www.operaudio.com.cn/company/operaudio/tu/new/m100-10-1.jpg)
Yes it's about as expensive as M100+ and M99+ combined but it's a completely different amplifier unlike the two siblings that share the same chassis and parts. For one, it has a different set of tubes: 1 x NOS GE 6201 + 2 x NOS JAN Philips 5687 + 4 x 6CA7EH and 2 x Sovtek 5AR4 tube rectifiers. The output tubes are run at full class A which results to a cleaner smoother and more refined sound especially in combination with tube rectification. It has much bigger power and output transformers too which is evident when you lift it - its a heavier and chunkier amp.
This model was not supposed to be sold outside China/HK (which is why its manual is in chinese and there is no mention of it in the english opera website) but we got a sample and we liked it so much that we had to beg and make kulit before Consonance Beijing agreed to send us more.
It is my personal favorite especially with Living Voice speakers so much so that my trusty ole CJ Premier 11a has taken an extensive vacation hehehe ...
how much?? ;D
m100plus 10th Anniv. -----
m100+ ------------------------
m99+ --------------------------
Thanks. ;)