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Home Theater => Displays => Flat Panels => Topic started by: Dracula on Oct 29, 2004 at 11:41 PM
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Is this plasma television available in the Phiippines?
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Yes! I saw a complete line on display a week ago at ANSONS MAKATI. The picture is AWESOME! as well as the price! ;D
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Yes! I saw a complete line on display a week ago at ANSONS MAKATI. The picture is AWESOME! as well as the price! ;D
How Much?
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If my memory serves me right...42" 350,+++?
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If my memory serves me right...42" 350,+++?
Hi Esi,
Favor naman when you pass by Anson Makati could you make sure what the price is kasi I saw one here in the UK for just £2500 (250k equivalent)......
Is 350k the best price back home?
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As soon as I can visit again I'll post them. Its currently being marketed both in print and tv ads here! Its a kick ass plasma!
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Hi Esi,
Favor naman when you pass by Anson Makati could you make sure what the price is kasi I saw one here in the UK for just £2500 (250k equivalent)......
Is 350k the best price back home?
best price i ask was 320,000 php...
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Grabe!
Been to Listening In style PODIUM. They are selling the 42" 198T! :o. No kidding. Perfect Vision reviewed and voted this set to be the closest plasma could get to present and resolve BLACK! tradeoff is the PAL ONLY tuner. But hey, you might be watching DVDs right? Or you may use it as a monitor only! Check It out! ;D
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Hi guys,
I'm seriously buying a plasma in a couple of months. I've seen the Panasonic VIERA model no. TH-42PV30A. Fantastic picture but no DVI. Has anybody bought it. They're selling it here in Sydney for $4999 aussie dollars. How much is it now there in the Philippines; and any feedback how the model is. One should be careful before buying, it is a big investment. Considering also a Fujitsu but price is very steep, might settle for the Panasonic.
Bonjit
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Please be sure to read the brochures that come with the Plasma Vierra. You will be shocked that it is a EDTV not a HDTV :o :o.
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Please be sure to read the brochures that come with the Plasma Vierra. You will be shocked that it is a EDTV not a HDTV :o :o.
Thanks for the info Mouldingo, I'll try to do some more research before buying :)
Cheers,
Bonjit
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i got one for 308, 18 months to pay. Was supposed to get a samsung for 220 but when we saw the picture quality (of the viera), the difference was like heaven and earth. we're very happy with the purchase (and quite depressed with the bill). :)
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i got one for 308, 18 months to pay. Was supposed to get a samsung for 220 but when we saw the picture quality (of the viera), the difference was like heaven and earth. we're very happy with the purchase (and quite depressed with the bill). :)
Mazzystar, is that the 42 inch that you got, 1024 x 768 pixel resolution. I will be getting one in the very near future. Does it have DVI? Are there no dead pixels? What was the model no . if I may ask?
Cheers
Bonjit
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http://panasonic.com.ph/pphweb/viera/TH42PA30%20specs.htm
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The Viera is now selling for only P190k. This is the cash price given to me by the HT shop in 4/F Shang EDSA mall (Sights & Sounds yata). Listening in Style's pricing is P188k.
Bad lang is that PAL signal siya (as mentioned above). And single tuner lang.
Meron older Panasonic 42" plasma model (2003 model yata), which can go as low as P145k lang (w/ cable box, and not original tuner, and w/o HTIB bonus "freebie"). P155k kung original tuner ang kasama. Sa Listening in Style rin.
Sigh... bababa pa kaya ang price? ???
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Please be sure to read the brochures that come with the Plasma Vierra. You will be shocked that it is a EDTV not a HDTV :o :o.
Nothing wrong with EDTV, especially at 42" and for strictly DVD output since we don't exactly have HDTV broadcasts here in the Philippines. If you're confused between the 2 formats, read the following article:
http://www.projectorcentral.com/hdtv_edtv.htm
Another great thing about the Viera is its 60,000 hour life span which is equivalent to leaving it on 24x7 (continuously) for more than 6 years.
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May sale din yung Panasonic na 50" plasma sa Listening Room MegaMall. 240T at limited quantity lang. Resolution niya ay 1280 x 768.
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Got my plasma from the US for P150,000 inc. of shipping/taxes/duties. Model name is TH42PD50u. To compare with locally available Panny model (42PA30)- 8th gen plasma (vs. 6th gen local), 8.5+billion colors (vs. 1.04B), 4000:1 contrast (same), 2048 shades of gradation (1024 local), 60,000 hrs (same), ntsc tuner (vs. pal). They claim burn-in is practically a non-issue with 8th gen plasmas- you can use it as your pc monitor or play videogames hours on end without worries.
Only drawback is, warranty is not honored by local Panasonic dealers. To be honest, I didnt care since the 42PA30 is P320K, I dont think Id spend 170K for repairs. In fact its cheaper to buy another one in case my current unit bogs down.
Of course its up to you if you will follow my lead and get the latest plasma for half the price. If you think it's too much of a hassle having one shipped from abroad, then just get the local model, which is still way better than the rest.
One last thing, I dont recommend buying HD panels now. This model can rival those HD plasmas twice its price when viewing DVDs, even when placed side by side. Trust me on this. As of now, we have no use for HD units since HD programming isnt available locally, HD-DVD/bluray will only be available at the end of the year (inc. HD-DVD/Bluray players) and same with Xbox 360 (4th qtr 05) and PS3 (2nd qtr 06). Plasma prices are on the decline at a rate of 20%/annum. By the time these new tech becomes the standard, HD plasmas would be 40%-60% cheaper!
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Sir watdhek, I think I'm going to follow your lead - to have a unit shipped here from the U.S. I'm just a little concerned with the warranty but defects should come out early, right? How is your unit now? If it's still ok, chances are it should be fine for a long time. Wala ba talaga silang international warranty? anyway, ganda ng reviews sa TH42PD50U. At first I was thinking of the Samsung with 10000:1 contrast but the reviews weren't good. So, if all goes well, I will be ordering the same unit as yours.
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May sale din yung Panasonic na 50" plasma sa Listening Room MegaMall. 240T at limited quantity lang. Resolution niya ay 1280 x 768.
sir would you know which model it is? thanks
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watdhek: few questions if you dont mind...
1) online order ba? which online store?
2) which courier and what type of shipping did you use? how much did shipping cost?
3) how much did you pay in way of taxes/duties? pwede ba under the table? :-D
tia!
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I attended Listening in Style's launch of the Yamaha's New YSP-1
Digital Sound Projector last night. They had an on-the-spot promo for 2 Pana Plasmas:
1. Panasonic TH-42PW5 (Php125-K with modules/NTSC tuner)
2. Panasonic TH-42PW7 (Php125-K w/o modules/tuner)
The only major differences seem to be the contrast ratio (3000:1 for the PW5, 4000:1 for the PW7), advanced anti-burn circuitry, and the number of colors. In realworld testing, the sales rep said you'd be hard pressed to see the differences especially when viewing DVDs under ideal HT conditions. Both are 42" EDTV monitors meaning they upscale only up to 852x480. They demoed the PW7 unit by playing Jurassic Park III for us. Sitting about 8 feet away, the images were pretty spectacular despite the less than ideal conditions of the EDGE Showroom in
One McKinley.
Not sure if the promo is still valid after the event, but you can inquire through their stores in the Shang, Power Plant, or Festival malls.
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Sir watdhek, I think I'm going to follow your lead - to have a unit shipped here from the U.S. I'm just a little concerned with the warranty but defects should come out early, right? How is your unit now? If it's still ok, chances are it should be fine for a long time. Wala ba talaga silang international warranty? anyway, ganda ng reviews sa TH42PD50U. At first I was thinking of the Samsung with 10000:1 contrast but the reviews weren't good. So, if all goes well, I will be ordering the same unit as yours.
Got my plasma about 2.5 months ago and so far I have yet to encounter problems. Well to be honest I dont use it that often, just 2-3 dvds and roughly 6 hrs of cable tv per week since Im still breaking it in (reduced brightness, picture, and sharpness levels).Last time I checked, it has logged just 80+hrs. When it reaches 100+hrs, I plan to use it more often.
The only drawback, as Ive mentioned before, is the lack of int'l warranty. Ive already asked Listening in Style, Abenson, and Automatic Centre and all of them said they will not honor the warranty. I dont know if this is a store policy or a manufacturer policy, better ask them yourself if you do get one. Another advice, get a APC smart UPS with the plasma since it is 110V. I can email you an online shop where you can get a refurbished one with a b/n battery. Definitely a bang for the buck deal!
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The listening group has the 50PHW6 (6th gen panel, 50", HDTV resolution - 1366x768) plasma monitor (commercial model) for sale at just over P200k. Though it only comes with VGA input, no tuner, no other inputs, no speakers, not even a tabletop stand or wall bracket. Expansion modules for adding component inputs, tuner, composite/s-video inputs and DVI (HDMI module only works with the 7th gen model) are available separately. I think this plasma from Panny's commercial line first came out in 2003. The reviews I've seen for this panel are all positive.
I believe in the US they currently have the 7th gen commercial plasmas, with the 8th gen panels to be released anytime soon (or released na??).
Sabi ng friend ko sa US, the 7th gen commericial models are about to be phased out and are currently going for less than P200k, kasama na yung component and composite/s-video modules.
Sigh, sana eto na lang yung binebenta satin na mura instead of the 6th gen. But then wala rin yata choices locally, yung 6th gen na panny still seems to be the cheapest 720p HD plasma available locally. And just because it's an older gen panel shouldn't mean its no good eh?
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v0elker,
re your queries:
1. Bought it from PC Richard and Son since my Uncle knows the manager. Gave us a good deal, 20% off list price. I dont recommend buying a plasma from an internet store since shipping will be very expensive (they charge by weight)!
2. Shipping was thru Port Jersey. I paid roughly $550 net for door-door delivery, inc. insurance (4%).
3. Local tax and duties = 10% of purchase price (they will ask for a copy of the receipt). I dont think dealing with them under the table is worth it.
One more thing, the Panny 8th gen commercial model will be available this month. The 7th gen sells for $1500 without the bells and whistles.
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I called listening room at megamall , and was quoted P148k for a pw7 w/ vga+composite+component inputs and choice of wall or pedestal mounting and a cable box (generic tuner) but no speakers.
I would say good enough considering that buying from the US you would pay for shipping and have no warranty.
A Pw6 was quoted for P135K
I plan to visit them and maybe get one of the PW7's since all the reviews in the net are very positive.
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Hi guys,
I had a look at the new 8th generation plasma Panasonic Viera model no TH-42PV500A; quite impressed with the plasma, 42 inch (106 cm) high definition monitor. I was watching a high def broadcast, totally impressed with the monitor, excellent brightness, color & deeper richer blacks. It also has a HDMI input, only thing is you should have a HDMI dvd player to use it. Price of the plasma is $5499 ausie dollars but the dealer is giving it to me for $4499 good discount. I'd like to wait a couple of weeks more before I buy it. It is cheaper than the Fijitsu or the Pioneer so I think I'll settle for this one. Good thing I waited instead of me buying the older model.
Cheers
Bonjit
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i suppose, after reading this thread, that listening in style and sights and sounds are better places to buy panasonic plasma panels, right? the prices given by the bigger chains seem to be stuck at 220k+ for current models, not to mention having limited models. i've tried lg, hitachi and panasonic and it seems panasonic gives better picture quality (without having to go through empirical tests, of course) so i'm looking to find more models, as well as better prices. any additional info here folks?
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gren,
I have my panny PW7 for almost 2 weeks now ,and we're really happy with it. With my rear projection TV , I always had to adjust contrast/brigthness even just switching channels but now I get a balanced picture even switching inputs ( dvd and cable). The built in tuner is something that you can buy or delete as an option , depending on how you want to use it. We use it as our normal tv set.. Viewing from 8 to 10 ft it is really great even w/ the HD shows I have collected.
One thing though about these particular model w/c is a commercial type is the no of inputs is a lot less than other types of plasma , not an issue for me.
Yes Listening room would be the cheapest place to get it .. They have the panny , toshiba and hitachi...
Panny w/out speaker is <140k ... while range of Panasonic/Toshiba/Hitachi w/ speakers is aroun 160K just EDTV resolution of course.
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heya jambam,
i called sights and sounds and listening in style and they did provide very low prices for them 42" plasmas. so much so that the 50" toshiba 50xp47 is within reach (just not sure if its worth it). would you know whats the diff between the pa30 and the pw7? the pw7 seems much cheaper.
alternatively, i'm eying the hitachi 42pd7800. not sure if 1024x1024 and 68billion colours are worth it though (almost 100k difference, probably more comparable to the 50" in terms of price).
what other panels did you look at?
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gren..
The PW7 is a commercial model and just a monitor if you don't add a tuner /speaker , cheaper if you don't need it. while the PA30 is a consumer model, so it's a complete TV set. The PA30 looks better ... How much was the PA30 quote?
I was really tempted to buy the hitachi 7800 at first but cash price was still too expensive, the color really looks good and even normal broadcast was nice..Almost bought one , luckily was able to control myself. I could buy 2 x PW7 for the price.
The fujitsu and Toshiba's are nice too they use panasonic panels but their own electronics., but the toshiba was bulkier , while a fujitsu was 60 k more .... In the showroom the hitachi picture looked better , but i was really looking too closely on the display that is why the higher resolution made the hitachi better. and the color saturation was gorgeous. And you are right for the price of a 7800 hitachi I would get the 50"
The reviews on the net all pointed out the panasonic and the price and size was right for me... The trigger for me was I could get it at < P120k w/ stand and component input only , which would have been good as a video monitor for my PC and dvd's .. But during delivery I asked them to demo the cable tuner so that i see how it performs w/ my cable connection . but the pictures i got was nice enough that i ended up paying an additional 21k for the cable tuner . And that is how my plasma ended up as our main TV, not as our home theather. ..
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gren..
The reviews on the net all pointed out the panasonic and the price and size was right for me... The trigger for me was I could get it at < P120k w/ stand and component input only , which would have been good as a video monitor for my PC and dvd's .. But during delivery I asked them to demo the cable tuner so that i see how it performs w/ my cable connection . but the pictures i got was nice enough that i ended up paying an additional 21k for the cable tuner . And that is how my plasma ended up as our main TV, not as our home theather. ..
Hi jambam,
May I know what is your cable TV provider? Im also interested to buy a plasma TV but it will be used primarily for viewing TV programs, howevr, current feedbacks on reception is discouraging me. Im using destiny as cable provider. thanks
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ti.. I am also using destiny..my cable signal was really bad awhile back because of illegal connections along the line going thru our street and i complained for a month until they fixed it. Once fixed I really had a good signal..
All the showrooms and dealers I went to did not have any decent cable or ariel anttenna for me to try out . That is why i requested a demo of the tuner.. And our previous main TV was a 50" rear projection , and it was a big difference. Just like my 21" wega except bigger in our darkened bedroom.
Of couse you have to view it from you standard viewing distance
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jambam,
the pa30 was approx 190k. i did not manage to get a quote for the pa50 but it seems a bit cheaper than the pa30.
the hitachi 7800 was 240k, but i'm a bit wary about the ASIM? technology they used to have a 1024 x 1024 resolution (not to mention the fact its rectangular pixels working here).
actually, the more i read the more i'm discouraged about having the plasma serve as a monitor, even part time. burn in issues, resolution issues (too low, rectangular pixels), as well as high cost associated with high definition (lite) plasmas don't seem to be worth it. if i'm considering resolution as my main requirement, i'd have to get either the 50 in pw6 or a 37" lcd tv (still haven't looked at lcds much, the lg lcd monitors i use aren't exactly encouraging).
thing is, as of now, plasmas look best for me, and the price is coming down. its just hard having to think of plunking down this much and having the perception that your stuff might get obsolete.
buying electronics is ever so fun :D
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gren,
If you are worried about resolution . I suggest you just have to compare it really . Hopefully you have access to 720p and 1080i content so that you can best decide for yourself..
As for me really close like 3 feet the HD display is better , but at 8 feet away I see no difference and for the past 2 weeks I forgot about my concern. I really wanted to get something soon so I could not wait.. But if your not in a hurry just pull the trigger when you really need it ...
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ti.. I am also using destiny..my cable signal was really bad awhile back because of illegal connections along the line going thru our street and i complained for a month until they fixed it. Once fixed I really had a good signal..
All the showrooms and dealers I went to did not have any decent cable or ariel anttenna for me to try out . That is why i requested a demo of the tuner.. And our previous main TV was a 50" rear projection , and it was a big difference. Just like my 21" wega except bigger in our darkened bedroom.
Of couse you have to view it from you standard viewing distance
Thanks, thats very encouraging. Have to audition plasma TV's next week. ;D
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well, took a better look today
between the pw7 and the hitachi 7800, both plasma, both 42"
you see more 'noise' on the 7800, i would attribute this to higher resolution actually making things more detailed, but the overall result was that it's noisier.
the pw7 looked the way it did, still good.
i also took a look at the 50 inch toshiba, 50xp47. not bad really, only bad thing about it is the external tuner, aside from being an older model (i presume). upcoming toshiba's are 55 series, with 48 as the one's that are currently in the market. don't take my word for this, i'm only guessing.
lastly, comparing plasmas to lcds, it seems that as far as detail goes, lcd wins. lcd wins in terms of brightness as well. but when it comes to big areas of non-detail, you see all sorts of banding effects, which only disappear when you're viewing the screen from afar. still, the 37" tosh lcd is priced the same as the 50" tosh plasma :P
oh, one more thing, i finally managed to view dlp rptvs right. the tosh 62" dlp looked grrreeat, but only at 10-15' away. otherwise, it sucks.
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Gren,
I got curious and checked . The toshiba 50xp47 is currently in their latest brochure, and I believe it is a panasonic panel w/ toshiba electronics. I would just verify if the life is rated for 60K hours and if yes it is a 7th gen panel or same generation as my PW7.
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yeah, funny that. the menus were identical (pwd7 vs 50xp47). i'm just verifying the specs and i could not, for the life of me, find anything definitive on it. all i gathered is that the tosh has an external tuner, 2 component inputs and a vga input.
i'm still not sure which i'll get, panny, tosh or hitachi (7800).
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Model Info:
http://www.glaucobruzzi.com/plasma-faq/showthread.php?t=136
Great Panasonic FAQ
http://www.glaucobruzzi.com/plasma-faq/forumdisplay.php?f=16
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I have used a Neuneo hdv2085 with a toshiba 52 inch projector. At a distance of 8 ft. the picture is very impressive. What if the real problem is the source and the cable? I have another dvd player at home which outputs 720p with its hdmi (pioneer s969) and I use it with my scaler using a crt projector and the picture is spectacular.
What I am driving at is, to really judge the capability of plasma or lcd display, one has to use a source that can show the true potential of the display. Take for example the toshiba 50x47, it has to receive a signal close or at its native resolution. If it receive a signal lower than 720p, the set will interpolate the signal and convert it to its native resolution. This will almost always be a trade off and you will not get the best picture possible.
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true enough. unfortunately, upscaling players seem to be quite a rarity here. would be nice to use a single dvd player to use with all the displays but unfortunately, i'll probably need to bring my own.
my best option so far would be to use a htpc setup with some funky postprocessing software to heighten the details (FFDShow http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/archive/index.php/t-246752.html for FAQ) but bringing my pc to shops is a tad difficult.
so in the end, it boils down to educated guesses.
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check the availability of the neu neo upscaling dvd player at audible illlusions timog qc (besides former lexus ktv).
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Anybody shopped around for a viera recently? Saw a 42" hitachi being sold for 150k and can be paid for in 24 months 0% interest.....
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42" Panasonic is ranked number 1.
http://www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/
Don't look at anything else if you are looking for a 42".
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Hi guys,
It's been a while since I did some posting. Ngayon lang dahil nagupgrade na ako at last ng tv. I bought a Panasonic plasma TH42pv500a high def. This is only an eighth generation plasma, I didn't get the new model, malaki rin ang difference $800 aussie dollars. I paid $2700 for the older model 20% dp and 24 months interest free, preety good deal; mas gusto ko ang cosmetic design nitong older Vierra kaysa noong bago. Silver is the new color of the new ninth generation plasma TH42pv60, hindi ko type yung kulay kaya yung older model na lang. If you compare the difference of the two mas detailed yung bago but if you're watching it 3 or 4 meters away hindi mo mapapansin, this is based on a high def broadcast. It will be delivered on Tuesday, can't wait till it gets here. I'll try to post some pictures once I've set it up :)
Cheers,
Bonjit
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Hi guys,
I was able to set up my vierra last week, It took me the whole day. I had to transfer the old tv downstars and set it up too. The vierra is very heavy too, it weighs around 52 kgs with the table top stand. It took me quite a while to assemble the rack too and the connections. I hooked it up to my sony dvd player and played George Benson, amazed at the screen size, i.m not used yet to a big 42 inch ws at the moment, it looks so big and hugh, hooked it up to my standard definition set up box and I was amazed at the clarity of it. I still have to buy a high def set up box, once I have the money I will, malaki na ang nagastos ko na nagagalit na si misis, malaki na ang utang sa card kaya lang masaya naman iyun ang importante. I'll post some pictures later in the ht gallery once I vave time.
Cheers,
Bonjit
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Updated Review: 42" Viera TH-42PA60M, EDTV 9th generation, purchased January 2007.
Break-in Procedure Used:
100 hrs.; 10 hrs. a day for 10 days using ABS-CBN / GMA free TV broadcast, zoomed to crop station logos from the picture.
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Burn-in / Image Retention:
After 6 months, no burn-in, no IR.
Black Levels in a Dark Room:
Similar or better than CRT when displaying a combination of bright and dark areas. But when displaying a scene that is nearly all-dark, the CRT is better. Still, it's similar to what you would see in a movie theater, so it's good enough.
Motion Judder:
Judder is present on very slow camera pans.
Video Processing Delay:
Audio on my AV Receiver (Yamaha 657) requires adjustment to synchronize with the delayed video. I use 16 ms audio delay for component video, and 8 ms audio delay for HDMI video connection.
"Screen Door" Effect:
Native pixels are visible from a viewing distance closer than 6 feet. Recommended viewing distance is a minimum of 8 feet (My couch is 10 feet away).
"Purple Snakes" or Magenta Bands, and "Purple Ants":
None.
False Contouring/Solarization/Posterization:
Posterization is sometimes present on blurred backgrounds and underwater scenes of some DVDs, but they seem to be caused by the disc rather than by the panel itself.
"Green Tinge":
None.
Green Phosphor Lag:
There is green phosphor lag on fast-moving black-on-white objects. I've also seen this artifact on the latest Pioneer 42" plasma, so the problem is probably present on all plasma units.
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If my memory serves me right...42" 350,+++?
Overpriced....dito sa Dubai it only cost AED5,000+ x Php12.60=Php63,000 + US$100 for the airfreight.
Depende sa model but you can get here some 42" HD-LCD or HD-Plasma at AED5K-6K price range. Kahit pa sabihin gumastos ako ng Php100K including the cargo...Mura pa rin compared sa Php320K diyan sa Pinas.
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Overpriced....dito sa Dubai it only cost AED5,000+ x Php12.60=Php63,000 + US$100 for the airfreight.
Depende sa model but you can get here some 42" HD-LCD or HD-Plasma at AED5K-6K price range. Kahit pa sabihin gumastos ako ng Php100K including the cargo...Mura pa rin compared sa Php320K diyan sa Pinas.
dude, you're quoting 2004 prices, ang layo na ng presyo ngayon!
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Got my Panasonic Plasma 42PV70H for P85T with freebies pa (MP3 player and 3 R1 DVD movies), Theater Works, Trinoma Mall QC.
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Overpriced....dito sa Dubai it only cost AED5,000+ x Php12.60=Php63,000 + US$100 for the airfreight.
Depende sa model but you can get here some 42" HD-LCD or HD-Plasma at AED5K-6K price range. Kahit pa sabihin gumastos ako ng Php100K including the cargo...Mura pa rin compared sa Php320K diyan sa Pinas.
Bro, baka naman 65" yung nakita mo. ::)