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Title: DVD-9: Why very expensive?
Post by: Blu-Ray on Feb 08, 2005 at 08:28 PM: Anybody knows why this dual layer disk >:( is far high than single layer disk? I don't think it is an idea to lessen piracy. Even without dvd-9, parates can have alternatives. Sa tingin nyo anong dahilan, or alam nyo ba kung bakit almost P500 isang blank dvd9? Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: DVD-9: Why very expensive?
Post by: idlewild on Feb 09, 2005 at 08:26 AM: from an article @cooltechzone:

"...generating DL media in mass quantities is far more complicated than regular CD-R and CD-RW discs, and it requires quite a bit of financial resources in the production stage. The failure rate of DL disc in production is also one of the highest among all media variations, which also explains higher prices for these products."

u can read the full article here (http://cooltechzone.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=918&itemid=0")
Title: Re: DVD-9: Why very expensive?
Post by: Philander on Feb 09, 2005 at 10:08 AM: just give a year or two, less than 50 pesos na lang yan...
Title: Re: DVD-9: Why very expensive?
Post by: Blu-Ray on Feb 09, 2005 at 02:45 PM: Thank you very much idlewild for the info. Kaya pala wala tayong mabili dito...kulang sa production at mahirap gawin. Philander sana magdilang anghel ka.
Title: Re: DVD-9: Why very expensive?
Post by: 500 Gig on Mar 15, 2005 at 02:44 PM: What's the latest news for this media? Anybody?
Title: Re: DVD-9: Why very expensive?
Post by: DVD-KiD! on Apr 02, 2005 at 11:27 PM: yeah! how much na siya 2day? anychance dropping the price to Php200. ;D
Title: Re: DVD-9: Why very expensive?
Post by: firewired on Apr 03, 2005 at 08:18 AM: Actually, it's about US$6 now for the Riteks based on quotes from online sellers. Is it worth the extra expense? Depends.

DVD backup tools have evolved significantly in the last 12 months. IMHO, unless you have a really large screen, the differences are minimal. And today's faster PCs can spit out transcoded DVDs in 15 minutes and reencoded DVDs in 3 hours.

Also, single layer media is getting cheaper everyday. Taiyo Yudens 4X DVD-Rs can be ordered online for P15/pc while Verbatim 8X DVD-Rs are going for about P18/pc. Here in Manila, the Iomega's are doing P22 and P28 for the 4X and 8X discs respectively.
Title: Re: DVD-9: Why very expensive?
Post by: bartleby on Apr 19, 2005 at 11:02 AM: Boss firewired,
Where can we purchase Taiyo Yudens DVD-Rs online?

Thanks.
Title: Re: DVD-9: Why very expensive?
Post by: hubes on Apr 19, 2005 at 11:43 AM: Quote from: bartleby on Apr 19, 2005 at 11:02 AM
Boss firewired,
Where can we purchase Taiyo Yudens DVD-Rs online?

Thanks.

me too. where can u buy on-line. cdr king's iomega and ritek dvds always no stock.
Title: Re: DVD-9: Why very expensive?
Post by: firewired on Apr 19, 2005 at 12:15 PM: Try Meritline. Here's the link to their TY page:
http://meritline.com/taiyo-yuden-dvd-media.html

Taiyo-Yuden is classified as professional grade media but the 4X DVD-Rs can be had for as low as US$0.33 each per 100 pieces. Sorry, I used P50:$1 conversion when I quoted prices in my previous post. This isn't a local website btw, so I order from them and take advantage of free ground shipping to relatives who're planning visits to the Philippines.
Title: Re: DVD-9: Why very expensive?
Post by: DVD-KiD! on Apr 23, 2005 at 03:58 AM: Quote from: firewired on Apr 19, 2005 at 12:15 PM
Try Meritline. Here's the link to their TY page:
http://meritline.com/taiyo-yuden-dvd-media.html

Taiyo-Yuden is classified as professional grade media but the 4X DVD-Rs can be had for as low as US$0.33 each per 100 pieces. Sorry, I used P50:$1 conversion when I quoted prices in my previous post. This isn't a local website btw, so I order from them and take advantage of free ground shipping to relatives who're planning visits to the Philippines.

man! your indeed lucky!! buti ka pa may relatives sa abroad. I'm waiting and hoping na magkaron din ang CD-R King na dual layer at a cheaper price. ;D
Title: Re: DVD-9: Why very expensive?
Post by: bartleby on Apr 28, 2005 at 10:07 AM: Quote from: firewired on Apr 19, 2005 at 12:15 PM
Try Meritline. Here's the link to their TY page:
http://meritline.com/taiyo-yuden-dvd-media.html

Taiyo-Yuden is classified as professional grade media but the 4X DVD-Rs can be had for as low as US$0.33 each per 100 pieces. Sorry, I used P50:$1 conversion when I quoted prices in my previous post. This isn't a local website btw, so I order from them and take advantage of free ground shipping to relatives who're planning visits to the Philippines.
Thanks for the reply boss firewired. No prob with the conversion. Even if it costs P30, it still Taiyo-Yuden and I've been looking for it for a long time.
Title: Re: DVD-9: Why very expensive?
Post by: Dunedain on Jun 30, 2005 at 03:01 AM: This could come in handy for those who purchases stuff at eBay.

I buy my 2.4X DVD+R DLs in eBay from several sellers just to get the best bang for the buck. Who doesn't anyway? I was able to come across a seller named "dvdmedias4less (http://stores.ebay.com/DVDMedias4Less)" who was selling 2x 5-pack Ritek/Ridata 2.4X 8.5GB DVD+R DL for $40 (+8.25% CA tax) and US$10 for S/H. I purchased and paid a total of US$53 and the delivery took a little over a week. At that cost, if I'd ignore the S/H. each disc was a little over US$4 but no more than $4.50. Not bad since most stores sell them US$6 and above for each media (not including sales tax).
Title: Re: DVD-9: Why very expensive?
Post by: av_phile1 on Jun 30, 2005 at 04:40 PM: Just curious. Once you've ripped a DVD-9 title onto the hard disk, will the Nero DVD burning software seamlessly and transparently write it onto a blank DVD-9 like an ordinary DVD-5? Or will be prompted for layer change? TIA
Title: Re: DVD-9: Why very expensive?
Post by: Dunedain on Jul 10, 2005 at 08:36 AM: Quote from: av_phile1 on Jun 30, 2005 at 04:40 PM
Just curious. Once you've ripped a DVD-9 title onto the hard disk, will the Nero DVD burning software seamlessly and transparently write it onto a blank DVD-9 like an ordinary DVD-5? Or will be prompted for layer change? TIA

Not entirely sure on the layer change but here are a couple of experiences that I had. My kid would always hold onto my collectible DVDs (especially Disney ones) and have smudges. Fortunately, no scratches yet. I backed up a copy of Toy Story on a DVD-9 and there are scenes where the video would freeze up for a fraction of a second. I supposed there is a layer change. But when I backed up Tarzan on a DVD-9, it's no different from the original. My only hunch is that instead of burning at 2.4x (as specified on the disk), burn it at a lower speed like 2x or even lower.
Title: Re: DVD-9: Why very expensive?
Post by: Blu-Ray on Sep 10, 2005 at 05:07 PM: Saw Imation dvd-9 (8.5Gig) in CDR King costs P350. Still expensive for me. :'(

Meron b tyo dito pinas nito? Saan store kya?

http://meritline.com/dvd-r-blank-media-94.html
Title: Re: DVD-9: Why very expensive?
Post by: ralfy on Aug 24, 2006 at 01:38 AM: I think Taiyo Yuden has a factory and office in the Philippines.

http://www.yuden.co.jp/e/company/index03.html
Title: Re: DVD-9: Why very expensive?
Post by: SPaCeMaN SPiFF on Aug 24, 2006 at 04:32 AM: right... from here: http://www.yuden.co.jp/e/company/03c.html ... these addresses were posted.

TAIYO YUDEN (PHILIPPINES) INC.
Mactan Economic Zone
Lapulapu City, Cebu, Philippines 6015
TEL:+63-32-340-0574~9 FAX:+63-32-340-0584

TAIYO YUDEN CO., LTD.
Manila Representative Office
Unit 901 Antel 2000 Corporate Centre, 121 Valero Street,
Salcedo Village, Makati, Metro Manila, Philippines 1227
TEL:+63-2-751-8602·8603 FAX:+63-2-751-8604
Title: Re: DVD-9: Why very expensive?
Post by: strangebrew on Aug 24, 2006 at 12:40 PM: Quote from: SPaCeMaN SPiFF on Aug 24, 2006 at 04:32 AM
right... from here: http://www.yuden.co.jp/e/company/03c.html ... these addresses were posted.

TAIYO YUDEN (PHILIPPINES) INC.
Mactan Economic Zone
Lapulapu City, Cebu, Philippines 6015
TEL:+63-32-340-0574~9 FAX:+63-32-340-0584

TAIYO YUDEN CO., LTD.
Manila Representative Office
Unit 901 Antel 2000 Corporate Centre, 121 Valero Street,
Salcedo Village, Makati, Metro Manila, Philippines 1227
TEL:+63-2-751-8602·8603 FAX:+63-2-751-8604

question is where can we buy their products here...

imation lang ba ang mer0n ng dl dito sa pinas?
Title: Re: DVD-9: Why very expensive?
Post by: ralfy on Sep 25, 2006 at 08:38 PM: You can get Ridata and TDK for P200 at CD-R King. There are prob. cheaper prices and brands elsewhere, like stores in Manila, etc. The burners are also cheaper now: around P2T-3T for an internal drive.
Title: Re: DVD-9: Why very expensive?
Post by: Blu-Ray on Sep 26, 2006 at 02:10 AM: Sir, which one is better... in terms of quality?
Title: Re: DVD-9: Why very expensive?
Post by: ralfy on Oct 02, 2006 at 03:47 PM: I can't tell, but they all work.

Quote from: Blu-Ray on Sep 26, 2006 at 02:10 AM
Sir, which is better... in terms of quality?
Title: Re: DVD-9: Why very expensive?
Post by: Blu-Ray on Oct 02, 2006 at 09:47 PM: K thanks sir ralfy...we'll try one tdk nalang muna (for our demo disk)