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Title: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: firewired on Apr 13, 2005 at 01:51 PM: Viewed this one last night and it seems identical to the R1 version except for the Asian subs and Thai audio track. According to Warner, this one's priced to move at P495. For a new release, that's unprecedented. Picture quality's okay though grainy during dark scenes. Soderbergh pushed his film stock and it shows despite the high bitrate. Colors are great -- very stylized look -- and this release does it justice.
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: vp_ortiz on Apr 16, 2005 at 10:18 PM: bought this one kanina... 495 na lng, i actually liked the film as much as the first one. so kahit wlang special features (if you consider a theatrical trailer a feature), ok lng ksi i ang habol k nmn is the film itself
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve skipping problems
Post by: electronic70 on Apr 17, 2005 at 08:15 AM: Played my copy on my Denon3910; the disc starting skipping from the 17th chapter (1hour 2 minute mark) onwards. :( No visible scruff marks on the disc.

Thankfully, it played without problems on my Pioneer DVL-919. Since it's the first time I've watched the film, I would have been really peeved if I was not able to finish the film.

It's the 1st disc I have encountered (I have Region 0, 1, 2, 3, and 4 discs) that had problems playing on the Denon, hmmmm...

Just thought I would share

Peace
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: firewired on Apr 17, 2005 at 08:23 AM: Consider having it replaced. Could be a factory defect, or the disc may be slightly warped from handling.
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: hemisphere on Apr 19, 2005 at 12:54 PM: firewired, would they release a twin box of Ocean's 11 and Ocean's 12 locally?

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Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: firewired on Apr 19, 2005 at 01:06 PM: Depends on the demand. Right now, it's not on their radar yet. If Ocean's Twelve delivers, I'm sure they'll consider it.
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: hemisphere on Apr 19, 2005 at 06:42 PM: thanks firewired. i would be waiting for the boxset.

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Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: THX1138 on Apr 20, 2005 at 03:05 PM: Quote from: hemisphere1234 on Apr 19, 2005 at 12:54 PM
firewired, would they release a twin box of Ocean's 11 and Ocean's 12 locally?

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(http://images.cd-wow.com/images/2/1112157817_big.jpg)
R3 Ocean's 11/12 Boxset
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: hemisphere on Apr 21, 2005 at 12:27 AM: Quote from: THX1138 on Apr 20, 2005 at 03:05 PM
(http://images.cd-wow.com/images/2/1112157817_big.jpg)
R3 Ocean's 11/12 Boxset

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sorry cant understand your message...
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: baby on Apr 21, 2005 at 01:02 AM: Quote from: hemisphere1234 on Apr 21, 2005 at 12:27 AM
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sorry cant understand your message...
try it again bro. can't you see the pix? :)
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: baby on Apr 22, 2005 at 11:52 AM: oceans 11,12 boxset Available yesterday at astro at 825 pesos :)
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: ipod fanatic on Apr 23, 2005 at 10:53 PM: got the boxset of ocean's 11 and 12...the bboxset also comes with an inflatable headrest! ;)
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: krets pulpol on Apr 23, 2005 at 11:01 PM: got mine too! di ako nakatiis sa r1! hahaha 'kala ko wristband yun!
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: hemisphere on Apr 24, 2005 at 11:22 AM: ei thanks for posting baby, ipod fanatic and krets.. bili rin ako nyan tomorrow. :)
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: benoy12 on Apr 25, 2005 at 08:05 AM: Hi sirs,

Yung Ocean 11 ba in this set is the same 1 disc version released before with special features? What about Ocean 12, is it the same 1 disc version previously released na bare bones? Thanks!!!!
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: baby on Apr 25, 2005 at 12:26 PM: Quote from: benoy12 on Apr 25, 2005 at 08:05 AM
Hi sirs,

Yung Ocean 11 ba in this set is the same 1 disc version released before with special features? What about Ocean 12, is it the same 1 disc version previously released na bare bones? Thanks!!!!
It's the same as the single disc versions.
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: krets pulpol on Apr 25, 2005 at 12:39 PM: Quote from: hemisphere1234 on Apr 24, 2005 at 11:22 AM
ei thanks for posting baby, ipod fanatic and krets.. bili rin ako nyan tomorrow. :)

ey redge nakabili ka na?! last 2 pieces na yung sa astro glorietta nung sat.

just opened it last night, ok naman yung inflatable headrest. it was placed in a small suede envelope-looking case. sulit na for 825. the two-disc keepcase looks ugly, talo pa ang pirated keepcase. but the prints and carton slipcase are finely printed
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: hemisphere on Apr 25, 2005 at 01:02 PM: nakup.. hindi pa ako nakabili. try ko sa Sm Sucat astrovision. i was out of town kasi nung weekend..

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Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: hemisphere on Apr 25, 2005 at 05:58 PM: got mine.. nagkamali pa ng punch ang cashier since Ocean's 11 and the twinbox have the same UPC.. initially, i paid P495 lang ata.. bumalik pa ako to pay extra P350.00. dyahe naman.. nagpasalamat naman ang sales assistant sa SM Sucat.

:)
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: krets pulpol on Apr 25, 2005 at 06:44 PM: sayang! steal na sana yan redge! hahahaha but you did the right thing!
pagpalain ka lalo, more dvds to come! ehehehe
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: baby on Apr 25, 2005 at 07:14 PM: Quote from: hemisphere1234 on Apr 25, 2005 at 05:58 PM
got mine.. nagkamali pa ng punch ang cashier since Ocean's 11 and the twinbox have the same UPC.. initially, i paid P495 lang ata.. bumalik pa ako to pay extra P350.00. dyahe naman.. nagpasalamat naman ang sales assistant sa SM Sucat.

:)
limited lang ba eto? :)
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: hemisphere on Apr 25, 2005 at 07:19 PM: i guess.. it's limited lang. :) Astro Sucat has only few copies and no plans of replenishing stocks on hand.
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: baby on Apr 25, 2005 at 07:28 PM: i guess double dip nalang ako to get boxset ??? :-\
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: Neverwinter on Apr 25, 2005 at 10:26 PM: Guys, astro megamall is selling the boxset for 895, not 825 ???
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: benoy12 on Apr 26, 2005 at 08:04 AM: Thanks for the reply.

Quote from: baby on Apr 25, 2005 at 12:26 PM
It's the same as the single disc versions.
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: hemisphere on Apr 26, 2005 at 11:09 PM: a free inflatable head rest comes with the Ocean's 11 and 12 LE boxset..

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Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: classicman on Apr 26, 2005 at 11:17 PM: uy maganda naman pala ito ah :o :o :o....i've already made my reservation earlier w/ sir darius of warner's, at least may 10% discount sa kanya, hehehe ;D 8)
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: krets pulpol on Apr 27, 2005 at 09:51 PM: saw copies at m1 tonight but they don't have the free portable headrest.
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: jerq on Apr 28, 2005 at 07:27 PM: just bought the ocean's 11 n ocean's 12 single pack at the sale at rockwell today, but when i read all your post :o i sell the two immediately and went straight to glorieta to buy the limited edition box set of ocean's 11 + ocean's 12.

and sa wakas na kontento din ako. ang ganda nga nung slipcase nya.... tnx to you guys....

cheers!
:)
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: firewired on May 03, 2005 at 06:59 PM: Have you read Noel Vera's review of Ocean's Twelve? It's a shocker. :D

One more by Noel Vera

Frank Sinatra did "Ocean's Eleven" in 1960 as an excuse to have a lark, roping in Lewis Milestone (a filmmaker who started in the silent era, did the powerful 1930 anti-war film "All Quiet on the Western Front," and by this time was an antediluvian anachronism) to direct traffic; Steven Soderbergh is luckier than Milestone, in that it was he who decided he was going to have fun, along with everyone else he happened to cast, in remaking the picture. This "Ocean's Eleven" bears all the marks of a relaxed, no-fuss movie, with Soderbergh recycling actors and images and jokes where necessary (George Clooney plays Sinatra's Danny Ocean as a reworking of his convict-out-of-prison characters in "Out of Sight" and "O Brother, Where Art Thou?"; the ending where Danny and his crew watch a fountain show is inspired by a similar sequence in "The Right Stuff"). Thanks to Soderbergh's not inconsiderable filmmaking skills, it turned out to be a fairly good caper flick, better than the material deserved, which was the whole point, I suppose--to prove that he can slum it (or whore it) with the best of them, and better than most. Don't mean he has made a slapdash picture, no--I'm sure he applied every bit of passion and skill into the project as he does his more serious ones--but it has the appearance of being effortlessly done, which is, of course, the hardest effect of all to produce.

In which case, "Ocean Twelve" would be--what, a sequel to the remake of a lark? Whatever it is, Soderbergh, having proven the commercial viability of the exercise, must have felt freer to do what he wished, and bent upon doing it with a will. The sequel is visually a touch more baroque than the original, with bright colors, handheld shots, freeze-frames, jumps forward and backward in time, and editing hiccups inherited from Jean-Luc Godard. Plotwise it's also more complex, beginning as a "long arm of the past catches up" type movie, as Terry Benedict (Andy Garcia), villain of the previous flick, appears beside each of the main characters wielding threats and a cane, demanding his money back plus interest (in Danny's case he makes representation to Tess Ocean (Julia Roberts), Danny's wife and Terry's ex-squeeze); it becomes a "cop pursues thieves across Europe" sort of picture, as a police officer (Catherine Zeta-Jones) and former girlfriend of Rusty Ryan (Brad Pitt), one of the eleven, puts herself on their trail with illegally signed orders; it finally morphs into a "greatest criminal in the world" challenge as Night
Fox, a rival burglar whose real name is Francois Toulour (Vincent Cassel) challenges Ocean to steal the same object he had stolen years before: the Faberge Coronation Egg (one of my favorites from the collection, complete with a beautifully made little golden carriage inside). Soderbergh tops the overstuffed dish with a sprinkling of improvised banter, in-jokes, homages to other movies, plus a flourish of cameos (Robbie Coltrane, Jeroen Krabbe, and Albert Finney (who worked with both Roberts and Soderbergh in "Erin Brokovich") being my favorites) peeking out from the margins.

The key to making the whole thing work is the same as that of a successful soufflé: experience, balls, timing. It's to Soderbergh's credit that he has enough of all three to push the outside of the envelope a tad bit, include one or two conceits that actually seem daring, if not actually imaginative (the best demonstrates a self-reflexive humor worthy of Pirandello, or at least Chuck Jones, or at the very least maybe Joe Dante); if the movie fails, it's in the moments when it takes itself seriously. I thought the character of Tess was criminally wasted in "Eleven" because she represented the most dramatic thread in that picture, the sexual rivalry between Danny and Terry. That was supposed to provide "heart," to show that Danny had something truly at stake when he chose Terry's casinos to rob; what the subplot actually did was drag the movie down just when it was supposed to gather momentum. In "Twelve," Robert's Tess actually gets to do something, and it's the single best joke in the movie--so good it tends to put the rest in shadow (if the movie were all on this level of inventiveness, it might actually amount to
something). Here it's Catherine Zeta-Jones who gets the big drama scene, and for about a few minutes, the picture falls flat (loved the cameo, it's Zeta-Jones who I thought was inadequate)--recovers somewhat after, but not on the same spirited level.

The cast is as competent as ever; Clooney may not be anywhere near as good a singer as Sinatra, but he's at least as smooth an actor, funnier and more willing to take risks; Brad Pitt is less offensive and more credible than usual (he's always better in comic roles); Roberts is a blast here where, as I noted, in "Eleven" she was dead weight; Don Cheadle isn't any more convincing doing his alleged cockney a second time around (at least he's toned down the rhyming slang), but is still a welcome presence. My favorites, of course, are the old timers--Elliot Gould as the irascible Reuben Tishkoff, Carl Reiner as the mournful Saul Bloom. Vincent Cassel doesn't do much as Francois (he made a much bigger impression in Gaspar Noe's "Irreversible"), but does do a smashing dance number.

As for Soderbergh--he's one of America's most intelligent and versatile filmmakers, of course, though I've always suspected that when it comes to filmmaking (or to art in general) intelligence and versatility aren't all that crucial. His best works aren't necessarily his most serious ("Traffic" and "Solaris" come to mind), and when he tries for big moments, he's not as good as a less intelligent, less tasteful, more imaginative filmmaker might be. He's best when he's channeling a pretty good writer who does convincing characters (his adaptation of Elmore Leonard's "Out of Time"), or when he's lucked upon a good screenplay and an actor ripe for a great performance (Lem Dobbs and Terence Stamp, respectively, in "The Limey"). He's an interesting filmmaker--or, at least, interesting enough; the aforementioned films and the "Ocean" movies may represent the best of his range.

First published in Businessworld, 1/7/05
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: b0b0genius on May 04, 2005 at 07:39 AM: Just a question for those who have the Ocean's 11 and 12 LE boxset.

Do you get anything at all from your surround channels when viewing Ocean's 11? Had this disc played yesterday but it seems nothings comung out from my surround channels though have properly selected english Dolby Digital 5.1.

just curious... ???
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: vp_ortiz on May 16, 2005 at 06:21 AM: tanong ko lang, are we the only country getitng this release?!
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: classicman on May 16, 2005 at 07:51 AM: got this limited box set last week, the inflatable headrest is so cool a freebie it makes this set a steal at its price of Php825.00...... 8)
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: Hot Mama on May 17, 2005 at 06:23 PM: I got the ocean's 11/12 set... but no inflatable head rest... just the DVDs. I got it from Music One Greenbelt. Would there be differences with the stores giving out freebies? Say Astro vs. M1 vs. O?
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: vp_ortiz on May 18, 2005 at 09:03 PM: i think for astro buyers lang to...
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: classicman on May 18, 2005 at 10:20 PM: Quote from: vp_ortiz on May 18, 2005 at 09:03 PM
i think for astro buyers lang to...

hindi naman siguro, i got my copy w/ the inflatable headrest at the records section of SM department store 8)
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: vp_ortiz on May 24, 2005 at 10:13 AM: i got mine from tower records but no infalatable headrest ???
ok lng, the movies were great and since i don't have the previous single disc releases of these films, this a good buy. ;D cute pa nung cover...
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: classicman on May 24, 2005 at 11:45 AM: Quote from: vp_ortiz on May 24, 2005 at 10:13 AM
i got mine from tower records but no infalatable headrest ???
ok lng, the movies were great and since i don't have the previous single disc releases of these films, this a good buy. ;D cute pa nung cover...

i absolutely agree w/ you that even w/o the inflatable headrest, it is still a good buy, ang mahal kasi ng r1 at hindi pa box set ;)......but w/ the freebie, it becomes a steal ;D
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: boybi on May 25, 2005 at 07:52 PM: available pa ba ito? saan pa kaya meron?
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: vp_ortiz on May 25, 2005 at 09:58 PM: ewan ko sa manila branches kasi i'm form pampanga. ;D

pero here, sa astrivion branches sa sm at robinson's dito, they have at least 5 copies pa nung boxset.

and the good thing is, wala man masyadong bumibili.
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: jeckjeck on May 25, 2005 at 10:02 PM: saw a couple of copies at Astro Festival
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: boybi on May 25, 2005 at 10:37 PM: Quote from: vp_ortiz on May 25, 2005 at 09:58 PM
ewan ko sa manila branches kasi i'm form pampanga. ;D

pero here, sa astrivion branches sa sm at robinson's dito, they have at least 5 copies pa nung boxset.

and the good thing is, wala man masyadong bumibili.

ganun ba? magpareserve nga ako sa astro sm pampanga. buti nalang taga tarlac ako ;D

diba wala na yung astro sa robinson's? linipat na yata sa big R dyan sa angeles city?
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: vp_ortiz on May 26, 2005 at 08:57 AM: yes, i was talking about robinson's in angeles city.

sa sm pampanga, mas madaming copies nung boxset sa tower records, kaso walang free na headrest. ewan ko lang sa astrovsion kung meron...
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: boybi on May 26, 2005 at 08:27 PM: Quote from: vp_ortiz on May 26, 2005 at 08:57 AM
yes, i was talking about robinson's in angeles city.

sa sm pampanga, mas madaming copies nung boxset sa tower records, kaso walang free na headrest. ewan ko lang sa astrovsion kung meron...

called up astro sm pampanga a while ago, out of stock na yung boxset sa kanila :(
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: vp_ortiz on May 27, 2005 at 08:53 AM: :( sorry to hear.

last resource mo na sa tower records.
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: jas on May 27, 2005 at 09:01 PM: just saw a couple of copies today at Tower Records MegaMall.
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: godric on Jun 09, 2005 at 12:00 AM: found at least 5 copies at odyssey greenbelt 1.
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: vtec3 on Jun 18, 2005 at 10:16 PM: Quote from: boybi on May 26, 2005 at 08:27 PM
called up astro sm pampanga a while ago, out of stock na yung boxset sa kanila :(

got this set kanina sa Tower SM City and saw at least 1 copy pa ;) kaya lang walang inflatable headrest ???
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: DVD_Freak on Jul 15, 2005 at 10:55 PM: Planning to get the boxset for the longest time. Nasa 825 pa rin siya ngayon. Pag nagsale na lang.
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: upinsmoke on Jul 26, 2005 at 06:50 PM: I saw the limited edition Ocean 11 & 12 box set for P825 but without the headrest. Do you guys think it's worth it? It comes down to P412 per disc. I'd be kicking myself if I find these on the P350 rack a month from now. It has the same features as the tingi version isn't it? Without the headrest, we're just paying extra for the limited edition box.
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: vp_ortiz on Jul 26, 2005 at 06:54 PM: i have bought this set even without the headrest, and i can say that i am satisifed with my pruchase... ;D
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: DVD_Freak on Jul 26, 2005 at 08:28 PM: Quote from: upinsmoke on Jul 26, 2005 at 06:50 PM
I saw the limited edition Ocean 11 & 12 box set for P825 but without the headrest. Do you guys think it's worth it? It comes down to P412 per disc. I'd be kicking myself if I find these on the P350 rack a month from now. It has the same features as the tingi version isn't it? Without the headrest, we're just paying extra for the limited edition box.

I think it's more prudent to wait a while. Malapit na rin naman magsale ang mga mall. Even if di siya lumabas sa 350 price tag, dun sa mga mall wide sale eh makaka discount ka pa rin ng mga 10% at the least.