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Title: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: notaku on Jun 09, 2002 at 04:27 PM
I've read that highly-informative thread on denon receivers and sonus fabers.  I'm now in the same boat, i've looked around, have pretty much seen the same options.  i was impressed by the h/k but reliability horror stories abound; marantz done have no RP distribution in their site so-?  

i'm torn between the dynaudio (listen) and soliloquy (audio den) standmounts, i think the dynaudios are better all-rounders but the sols are good too and a lot less tougher on amps.

if i go for the dynaudios, will denon's -3802 or onk's 797 be up for the long-term of running five (3+ ohms, 86db) at once?

interestingly, i got a pitch from the rotel distributor:  RSX-1065, a 44 lb. beast, 100W*5, DPL-2 and impressive bass setup flexibility (multiple, 'stead of just 80-100 hz). the price: Php 90,000.00, but i haven't tried haggling yet-i'm still recovering from shock. but rotel's got a good rep-anybody here think this is a good deal, or am i being screwed?
Title: Re:Rotel RSX-1065
Post by: cybermms on Jun 09, 2002 at 07:57 PM


interestingly, i got a pitch from the rotel distributor:  RSX-1065, a 44 lb. beast, 100W*5, DPL-2 and impressive bass setup flexibility (multiple, 'stead of just 80-100 hz). the price: Php 90,000.00, but i haven't tried haggling yet-i'm still recovering from shock. but rotel's got a good rep-anybody here think this is a good deal, or am i being screwed?


Rotel is a pretty good performer - Power Amps, Integrated Amps, CD Player, Home Theater Receiver.

After Sales and Warranty services are also reliable.

I have tested and sold a few RSX-965 (predecessor of RSX 1065). The 965's were priced at P42k two years ago and its power output was 75w x 5.

RSX 1065 is rated 5 star in the UK. If you want to validate its price, check it against the buying guide of What Hi-Fi? magazine. The retail price in the UK is about the same as here (Sterling Pounds X Peso fx rate).

cybermms
Title: Re:Rotel RSX-1065
Post by: downtown on Jun 09, 2002 at 08:36 PM
notaku,
i can't comment on the RSX-1065 exactly but i got a RSP-1066 (prepro - DTS-ES/DDEX) and RMB-1075(120x5) combo last March. I have been thrilled with it
Title: Re:Rotel RSX-1065
Post by: levi on Jun 09, 2002 at 09:27 PM
Notaku,

Rotels are expensive but if your in that budget I think its worth it. Just my 1 cent

downtown,

   How much is the rotel pre amp? The preamp is 7.1, but  can you use it as 5.1? I think your using a 5 channel amp, Can you use another 2 channel amp for the front or does it have to be for the rear only? Thanks


levi
Title: Re:Rotel RSX-1065
Post by: downtown on Jun 10, 2002 at 08:40 AM
levi,
I'm using it as 5.1 only since my room is small and can't add anymore speakers. You can use a 2 channel amp anywhere(front/back), which i plan to do later so that my fronts sound better for 2ch audio.
Another good thing is you can upgrade the software thru the internet. They have already released a new update a month ago.
Title: Re:Rotel RSX-1065
Post by: ariel on Jun 10, 2002 at 07:22 PM
Hi downtown. where did you buy the rotels? i'm planning to upgrade my receiver and i have read so many good things about rotel.
Title: Re:Rotel RSX-1065
Post by: levi on Jun 10, 2002 at 07:27 PM
Thanks Downtown. If I can afford, I also want a Rotel.
Title: Re:Rotel RSX-1065
Post by: downtown on Jun 10, 2002 at 08:26 PM
ariel,
i bought the Rotel's in the Philippines from the distributor.
If you go the separates route, check out the RSP-1066 in silver/black. It is so beautiful.
This is a link to it : http://pages.cthome.net/lradden/1066.jpg
Title: Re:Rotel RSX-1065
Post by: RU9 on Jun 12, 2002 at 04:49 AM
Hi Downtown,

May I know who is the distibutor and address of the
Rotel distributor ?

Thanks.

Louie
Title: Re:Rotel RSX-1065
Post by: downtown on Jun 12, 2002 at 08:33 AM
RU9,
Here is their add and email
APOLINARIO & ASSOCIATES
75 Baler St.
San Francisco Del Monte Quezon City
Philippines
Tel: 371-6809
E-mail: [email protected]
Title: Re:Rotel RSX-1065
Post by: cybermms on Jun 12, 2002 at 10:53 AM
Rotel RSX-1065 was reviewed in What HiFi? Mar 2002 vs. Onkyo TX-ds898 and Denon AVC-A11SR.

Verdict: Rotel outperforms its rivals most especially in "music sound".

What HiFi? quotes "....in stereo, the RSX-1065 is the best sounding one box receiver we've yet heard.It's meaty when called upon, tight sounding, and musical whatever the genre. Denon runs in close, but falls away by being just a little too smooth; the Rotel, by contrast, has the energy and timing to capture fast-paced beats crisply, defining each note cleanly in the mix. It rocks, it rolls and it shakes its funky derriere: you can't ask for more from a product of this type..."

Price tag in the UK - 1800 sterling pounds (or around P126000 in local currency).

cybermms
Title: Re:Rotel RSX-1065
Post by: cybermms on Jun 12, 2002 at 03:35 PM
                              (http://rotel.com/html/prodshots/rsx1065.jpg)

THE MOTHER OF ALL RECEIVERS


RSX-1065 Multi-Channel Receiver is the high performance alternative to complex multi-component home theater systems. In honor of Rotel ’s audiophile origins, the amplifier provides enough high current output to drive even the most difficult speakers. In multi-channel mode the RSX-1065 delivers 5 x 100 watts per channel RMS, all channels driven, and up to 200 watts per channel under dynamic conditions. A generous Rotel-made toroidal transformer forms the heart of a prodigious power supply to ensure unblemished reproduction of the most dynamic crescendos and most delicate sonic nuances. The RSX-1065 easily handles the most demanding system configurations. Custom ID capability allows users to program the source selector so that it displays exactly which component has been selected. Digital inputs are assignable. Multi-zone, multi-source capability? Of course. The RSX-1065 also handles two component video sources and provides a component video monitor output. Advanced Crystal Semiconductor microprocessors handle Dolby Digital, dts, and Dolby Pro Logic II decoding as well as several music modes for optimum enjoyment. In addition to conventional 5.1 capabilities, the RSX-1065 boasts two additional preamplifier outputs to feed, through appropriate amplification, an additional pair of speakers. This gives home theater enthusiasts the spatial benefits of the latest enhanced surround modes. For custom-installed systems, the RSX-1065 includes an RS-232 interface, 12 volt “trigger ”outputs, and discrete on/off remote control command codes. A fully programmable remote control is standard.
 
S P E C I F I C A T I O N S
Model  RSX-1065
Surround Sound 100w x 5
Freq. Response (front) 10Hz - 20kHz (+/- 0.3)
Total Harmonic Distortion (front, 1kHz)  <0.05%  
Intermodulation Distortion <0.05%
S/N Ratio IHF A (stereo)  95 dB
Input Impedance 47k ohms  
Frequency Response (video) 10Hz-95kHz +- 1dB (line level)
10Hz - 20 kHz +-0.3dB (digital level)  
S/N Ratio 45 dB
Input/Output Impedance 75ohms
Output Voltage (75 ohm)  1V
Tuner  -
FM S/N Ratio (@65dBf) 70dBf
FM Usable Sens. (mono) 14.2 dBf  
FM 50 db Quieting (75 )  -
mono -
stereo -
FM Harmonic Distortion
(65dBF/1kHz) -
0.3% (stereo)
 
FM Capture Ratio -
Alt Chan. Selectivity -
Spurious Response Ratio -  
IF Response Ratio -  
Stereo Separation
(100Hz/1kHz/10kHz) -
-/45dB/-
AM Sensitivity
AM Selectivity 500 µV/m
-  
Miscellaneous -  
Power Consumption: 550 Watts
Power Requirements:

 -
Dimensions (W x H x D):
 432 x 189 x 427 mm
17&#8221; x 7 ½&#8221; x 16 7/8&#8221;
Weight (net):  20.4 kg, 44.9 lb


Title: Re:Rotel RSX-1065
Post by: notaku on Jun 13, 2002 at 12:35 AM
uh-huh...obviously you folks approve of this product.  it doesn't take two looks at that so kindly-supplied picture to realize that this is one hell of a machine...my question is this:  lucky for me, i'm in the market for something that will last A LIFETIME, and that rotel is within my budget...why the hell will i bother?!  to owners of denons, onkyos...is there something in that rotel that i couldn't get for half the price?  i don't consider myself a (gasp) audiophile, and i think i never will be (as long as i appreciate eminem), but i want to get my damn money's worth-why the hell will i spend P 90,000.00 on a receiver, when there are so many starving goddamn children in the world?!  just askin'...?
Title: Re:Rotel RSX-1065
Post by: ariel on Jun 13, 2002 at 08:53 AM
hi notaku,
i noticed that you are planning to buy either the dynaudio or the soliloquy which are both very good speakers. you can use a cheaper receiver with these speakers but you cannot get the most out of them especially the dynaudio.
Title: Re:Rotel RSX-1065
Post by: cybermms on Jun 13, 2002 at 09:13 PM

..why the hell will i bother?!  why the hell will i spend P 90,000.00 on a receiver, when there are so many starving goddamn children in the world?!  just askin'...?


Bro, you wanted advice...you got it... that's one benefit of being part of the Pinoy DVD community.

The quality of the audio equipment you want to invest in is proportionate to the price you pay... as they say..."You pay peanuts ...you get monkeys..."

cybermms
Title: Re:Rotel RSX-1065
Post by: notaku on Jun 13, 2002 at 11:43 PM
hey! i apologize, people! that rant was, uh, chemically induced...anyway, da point's moot coz upon further inquiry, the rotel dis. admits they got no -1065s in stock: dey proposing order basis, 50% d/p-what? i blow 100,000 peysos, no demo?! i don't think so...

dynaudios: what amp are you proposing, man? i'm seriously interested in the audience series, inefficient and all; i doubt whether an ht rec. will be up to da task (short of the rotel, 'course); if i go 2-channel, will arcams or mf a300 do the job?
Title: Re:Rotel RSX-1065
Post by: cybermms on Jun 15, 2002 at 11:10 AM



dynaudios  what amp are you proposing, man? i'm seriously interested in the audience series, inefficient and all; i doubt whether an ht rec. will be up to da task (short of the rotel, 'course); if i go 2-channel, will arcams or mf a300 do the job?




dynaudios (4oms) will sound best if driven by high-powered amp preferably separates. Try them with a 200 w (RMS) powered amp.

The integrated Arcams (A85 or A75) and the MF A300 have power outputs of 75-100 watts and may not have enough to make the Dynadios sing.

cybermms
Title: Re:Rotel RSX-1065
Post by: downtown on Jun 15, 2002 at 01:04 PM
notaku,
why don't you try the combo i went with - RSP-1066 upgradeable pre/pro and RMB-1075 (120x5) at a little extra cash, and you'll have separates
Title: Re:Rotel RSX-1065
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Sep 24, 2002 at 11:05 AM

how's the after-sales support for ROTEL? anyone here have experience on repairs and warranties for this brand? or is the brand so good that there are hardly any cases?

thanks!
Title: Re:Rotel RSX-1065
Post by: hyperaudio on Sep 24, 2002 at 08:33 PM
hi guys,
hyperaudio (rotel service tech) at your service. of the hundreds of rotel products that have landed our shore, only a handful had had defects. they were usually the 951 & 971 cd players (usually the optical assembly). all rody a. had to do was order the parts (actually the whole assembly inc. the loading tray) and i installed them.  amps and/or receivers that had defects upon opening were shipped back to rotel. i'm sure there's no rotel products out there that are inutile. if there are and even if they're out of warranty i'm sure we can fix them
(rody a. will be always glad to help on the parts).
incidentally and something for you high end ht/music buffs to think about, i have a brand new pre-pro & 5-channel amp combo for sale: RSP-1066 dd ex/dts-es
7.1 pre-pro and RMB-1095 200wx5 power amp (thx).
P75,000 and P110,000 resp.
Title: Re:Rotel RSX-1065
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Sep 26, 2002 at 09:58 AM
hi guys,
hyperaudio (rotel service tech) at your service. of the hundreds of rotel products that have landed our shore, only a handful had had defects. they were usually the 951 & 971 cd players (usually the optical assembly). all rody a. had to do was order the parts (actually the whole assembly inc. the loading tray) and i installed them.  amps and/or receivers that had defects upon opening were shipped back to rotel. i'm sure there's no rotel products out there that are inutile. if there are and even if they're out of warranty i'm sure we can fix them
(rody a. will be always glad to help on the parts).
incidentally and something for you high end ht/music buffs to think about, i have a brand new pre-pro & 5-channel amp combo for sale: RSP-1066 dd ex/dts-es
7.1 pre-pro and RMB-1095 200wx5 power amp (thx).
P75,000 and P110,000 resp.

thanks for the info hyperaudio!

by the way, would you know which pre/pro models preceded the 1066? i'm exploring the possibilities of getting a dedicated pre-pro to match with an rb-985 5 ch power amp that can decode dd or even dd and dts, depending on their price tag. i'm willing to forego dts-es, dpl-2 or even plain dts if i can get a bargain for the older models.

i chanced upon an rsx-965 receiver but i found it quite expensive and slightly underpowered. its not a good match with the rb-985 either - parang sayang din yung built-in amp nya.

thanks!
Title: rotel 930ax any good?
Post by: makicute on Dec 01, 2002 at 09:44 AM
i saw this amp at raon is this amp any good im planning to partner it with my dm303 :) btw the price is 7500, is the price resonable?
Title: Re:rotel 930ax any good?
Post by: madrigal on Dec 02, 2002 at 08:06 AM
Hi,
  It is the best your P7,500 can offer.......  it is a 25W yata.  

 Price is reasonable thinking it is a british design although that is an older model already.

 Where in Raon?  Might get one too.....

I guess you are familiar that amps this small need speakers of 89 above sensitivity and that
it cannot be played real loud for party purposes.  Pang bedroom or small room lang ito..
Title: Re:rotel 930ax any good?
Post by: john5479 on Dec 02, 2002 at 11:28 AM
I think I know where you saw this rotel, that is their only stock, I was supposed to buy it before but wala silang pang-demo. When I asked the peeps there, they said its rated 100 watts x 2...yeah right. Anyway its relatively cheap but its within the 25-30 watt range only,
the B&W's you have should sound good on these amps. My friend though says the ra-931 mkII is better but then again the lowest price I saw for this amp is 11k:)
Title: Re:rotel 930ax any good?
Post by: makicute on Dec 02, 2002 at 12:18 PM
nakalimutan ko yung pangalan ng tindahan pero tanda ko kung galing ka ng lrt eh malapit eto sa kanto kung nasaan ang deeco yung store sa corner subok mo na lang. i think its 35 watts not 25 :)
Title: Re:rotel 930ax any good?
Post by: makicute on Dec 02, 2002 at 12:21 PM
john yung rotel 931 mk2 at 11k saan store ng kaibigan mo nabili yun? maganda ang review ng unit na to sa www.tnt-audio.com
Title: Re:rotel 930ax any good?
Post by: rubhino on Dec 02, 2002 at 03:22 PM
the rotel ra 930ax is 30wpc
Title: Re:rotel 930ax any good?
Post by: john5479 on Dec 02, 2002 at 08:13 PM
I saw this in upscale audio makati, but this was for their last unit, thats why my friend bought it right away. I saw one in upscale megamall but it costs 14k i think.
Title: Re:rotel 930ax any good?
Post by: makicute on Dec 03, 2002 at 12:12 PM
thanks for the reply guys, pero cguro i will look for another brand mukhang 30 watts is not enough for me, i want my amp to have a lot of headroom.

to john:
14k is already too much for me, adding 1k more would buy me a receiver na :)

to rubhino:
do you own this amp? if you do how does it perform with your current setup?
Title: Re:rotel 930ax any good?
Post by: RMN on Dec 05, 2002 at 07:35 PM
I think I saw this unit as well in raon but can't remember the stores name. The sales lady told me that its 100 + a channel as well... to good to be true, I thought, for the price. It is indeed an old model (1993-1994) so I'm curious about warranty and service. Okay kaya yung sound niya?
Title: Re:rotel 930ax any good?
Post by: john5479 on Dec 05, 2002 at 08:01 PM
one thing's for sure, its not a 100 watts per channel. its 30 watts per channel
Title: Re:rotel 930ax any good?
Post by: RMN on Dec 06, 2002 at 02:24 PM
one thing's for sure, its not a 100 watts per channel. its 30 watts per channel

Yes. But for  bedroom purposes...
Title: Re:rotel 930ax any good?
Post by: john5479 on Dec 06, 2002 at 03:15 PM
yep ideal for small rooms, all i'm sayin is that you can't take the salesladies word that its 100w x 2  ;)
Title: Re:rotel 930ax any good?
Post by: RMN on Dec 07, 2002 at 09:31 AM
yep ideal for small rooms, all i'm sayin is that you can't take the salesladies word that its 100w x 2  ;)

exactly. Would you also believe that she also said that it is "the latest model" from rotel? Good thing I checked the net. ;D
Title: Re:rotel 930ax any good?
Post by: rubhino on Dec 07, 2002 at 04:07 PM
it's a mid 90's model.
Title: Re:rotel 930ax any good?
Post by: RMN on Dec 07, 2002 at 04:16 PM
The store, by the way, is Pacific Electronics & Appliances along G. Puyat.
Title: Re:rotel 930ax any good?
Post by: makicute on Dec 13, 2002 at 01:38 PM
btw kung matagal na tong stock di kaya di na maganda ang tunog? is it possible na kahit di ginagamit ehh yung mga electronics nito sa loob ay ma-degrade like electrolytic capacitors? balak ko sanang bilhin...
Title: Re:rotel 930ax any good?
Post by: john5479 on Dec 13, 2002 at 10:11 PM
nah i don't think so, but once you buy it and use don't leave it off for a long time or else when you turn it back it won't sound "right" you'll have to wait for a while for it to warm up  :)
Title: Re:rotel 930ax any good?
Post by: audio_tyro on Dec 15, 2002 at 10:16 AM
thanks for the reply guys, pero cguro i will look for another brand mukhang 30 watts is not enough for me, i want my amp to have a lot of headroom.

to john:
14k is already too much for me, adding 1k more would buy me a receiver na :)

Hi Maki, I used to own a Rotel 931Mk.2. driving a pair of Sonus Faber Concertino. Rhubino visited me and we both concurred that his Rotel 930ax and my 931 are so remarkably powerful that we normally cannot exceed 10 o'clock volume position for it's too loud already. The Rotel integrated amps' power are conservatively rated. So don't be turned off by its 30-watt rating.

If you can find a medium size bag, put your B&W303s inside it and bring it to Raon. Try it with the 930ax. Only then can you verify how loud it can really go, and how good it sounds in music.

The P7,500 is a steal. You get very good sounding amp even beating many receiver in the 20K price range (as far as playing CDs is concerned). When I was in Singapore, I asked the dealer salesman which of the Rotel receivers can better the sound of the 931 integrated amp on demo. He told me only the 972 can do that, but it's already in the P70K range! I ended up getting the Rotel instead, and keeping my prologic receiver na dapat i-upgrade to DTS/DD. But when I hooked it up, I never regretted that decision. All of my CDs sounded much better.

Title: Re:rotel 930ax any good?
Post by: john5479 on Dec 15, 2002 at 11:31 PM
ra-972 for 70k? you might have mistyped on that one. anyways with your speakers 30 watts should be ok i heard that b&w's and rotels sound great together ;D
Title: Re:rotel 930ax any good?
Post by: makicute on Dec 16, 2002 at 10:18 AM
well i tried looking at the unit again last saturday, this time i got a really good look. well i think the unit have been on display for a very long time. i look inside the amp and i found out that some of the components inside are rusting (i cant believe it either) and there seems like a brownish thing besides the power caps.

i didnt ask for a listening demo anymore from what i saw.

bummer :( could have been a good buy
Title: Re:rotel 930ax any good?
Post by: audio_tyro on Dec 16, 2002 at 10:49 AM
ra-972 for 70k? you might have mistyped on that one. anyways with your speakers 30 watts should be ok i heard that b&w's and rotels sound great together ;D

Hi John, referring to the Rotel RSX-972 (top-of-the-line receiver last June, when I went to Singapore). My option was to upgrade my receiver so that I only use one amp both for music and home theater. Well, that didn't happen. I ended up getting the Rotel 931 integrated (not a receiver) but intensely enjoy my music to another level. Anyway, I have a very few DVD  collection so I don't care if I still have the old receiver. Besides, I use the Rotel integrated too for concert DVDs, and the sound is amazing! No regrets. My 5-year old daughter uses my receiver to view her Barney VCDs, her Toy Story DVDs and a lot more. For movies, I am bi-amping (Rotel drives my Sonus Faber) and my Onkyo drives the center and rears.

Title: Re:rotel 930ax any good?
Post by: audio_tyro on Dec 16, 2002 at 11:03 AM
well i tried looking at the unit again last saturday, this time i got a really good look. well i think the unit have been on display for a very long time. i look inside the amp and i found out that some of the components inside are rusting (i cant believe it either) and there seems like a brownish thing besides the power caps.

i didnt ask for a listening demo anymore from what i saw.

bummer :( could have been a good buy


Delikado nga yon Pare'ng Maki. Tinawaran mo na lang sana ng P4-5K. Di na mabebenta yon. hehe. Sent you a PM
Title: Re:rotel 930ax any good?
Post by: john5479 on Dec 16, 2002 at 03:07 PM
ah ok no offense meant just clarifying coz with that price range you can by one of rotels receivers already. as for that 930ax in raon nah don't sweat i'm sure some guys here will be selling their 932's hehehe ;D
Title: Re:rotel 930ax any good?
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Dec 17, 2002 at 11:09 AM
I always liked Rotel integrateds.  Great sound and build quality for the money.
Title: Re:rotel 930ax any good?
Post by: audio_tyro on Dec 17, 2002 at 01:15 PM
I always liked Rotel integrateds.  Great sound and build quality for the money.

Yo, Michael Schumacher! For a guy who is a Dynaco ST70 tube amp fanatic, that's saying a lot, my man! Muchas gratias senyor!
Title: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: cybermms on Dec 28, 2002 at 05:38 PM
                      (http://www.rotel.com/products2002/ra-02.jpg)

Any users / comments on the new range of ROTEL RA-02 and RA-01 - High current stereo integrated amplifier

SPECS:
40 watts x 2 into 8 ohms
 5 inputs: mm phono, tuner, cd, aux 1, and aux 2
 Headphone jack, defeatable tone control
 Pre-outs for bi-amplification  
 12 volt trigger output
 Toroidal transformer, T network caps
 Detachable IEC power cord  



A thoroughly modern classic, the RA-02 adds the convenience of remote control to one of the most praised integrated amplifier circuits ever developed. Power output (40 watts RMS x 2) is more than adequate for all but the largest rooms. High damping factor assures positive loudspeaker control. In addition to a high efficiency Rotel custom-made toroid transformer, the power supply includes low-ESR British-made capacitors specifically designed for enhanced resolution. A system remote control, infrared repeater connections, A/B speaker terminals, five line-level inputs and a MM phono input, independent Listen/Record selectors, headphone jack, and a 12 volt trigger that provides remote turn-on/turn-off of components complete this exceptional product.

RA-01 has the same configuration but without the remote.


Title: Re:Rotel RA-01 / RA-02
Post by: audio_tyro on Dec 29, 2002 at 11:15 AM
Hey, it's rated Five (5) Stars by both HiFi Choice and T3 so it must be good eh? Read more on attached link:

http://www.hifichoice.co.uk/review_print.asp?ID=2374
http://www.t3.co.uk/rev_print.asp?rev_id=2475

Some say you need to avoid partnering it with bright speakers, as the slight forward nature of this Rotel can exaggerate its effects. Hence this amp is perfect for British speakers (Spendor, B&W, Mission, Tannoy, etc.). What speakers will you be driving it with? The best speaker cable to use with Rotels is the Analysis Plus brand.
Title: Re:Rotel RA-01 / RA-02
Post by: notaku on Dec 30, 2002 at 02:44 PM
Saw the RA-02 at Upscale in Megamall early this year, selling for Php 17K.  When I came back for the RCD-02 CD player someone else had bought the amp so I wasn't able to audition it.  

At least in terms of looks pictures don't do it justice, it was a very clean-looking unit, great finish, solid, not plasticky at all.  As far as the sound goes I thought the Silver series were simply repackaged older models, but the RCD-02 CD player sounds slightly different from the identical spec RCD-961, high freqs especially, but regardless for the price alone the RA-02 looks like a great buy if you're into stereo.
Title: Rotel RA-01 / RA-02
Post by: audio_tyro on Dec 30, 2002 at 05:20 PM
Hi Notaku! Repackaged order models kamo? That's great news indeed, since this new model has a remote. In retrospect, I've owned the older Rotel RA-931Mk.2 integrated amp (35watts) which I used to drive a pair of Sonus Faber Concertino Home and REL Strata 3 in sonic heaven! A friend from Cebu also noted that the 931 can drive the 84dB Spendor S3/5 even better than the latest Musical Fidelity A3 integrated amp. But you need the Analysis Plus Oval 12 speaker cable and Oval 1 interconnects to optimize the amp's performance. Changing cables from van den Hul CS-122 (with van den Hul D102Mk3 interconnects) to the Analysis Plus brand catapulted its performance into incredible heights especially if you keep reminding yourself of the amp's cheap price! It can literally put to shame many integrated amps (lalo na HT receivers) twice/thrice its price.
Title: Re:Rotel RA-01 / RA-02
Post by: notaku on Dec 31, 2002 at 04:10 AM
It can literally put to shame many integrated amps (lalo na HT receivers) twice/thrice its price.

Lalo nang HT receivers I'm sure!

Happy New Year!
Title: Re:Rotel RA-01 / RA-02
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Dec 31, 2002 at 01:22 PM
Yup, agree with you guys,  If its ROTEL, it must be good.  Good value for money, period.  ;)

Title: Re:Rotel RA-01 / RA-02
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Jan 11, 2003 at 01:03 AM
Hi Notaku! Repackaged order models kamo? That's great news indeed, since this new model has a remote. In retrospect, I've owned the older Rotel RA-931Mk.2 integrated amp (35watts) which I used to drive a pair of Sonus Faber Concertino Home and REL Strata 3 in sonic heaven! A friend from Cebu also noted that the 931 can drive the 84dB Spendor S3/5 even better than the latest Musical Fidelity A3 integrated amp. But you need the Analysis Plus Oval 12 speaker cable and Oval 1 interconnects to optimize the amp's performance. Changing cables from van den Hul CS-122 (with van den Hul D102Mk3 interconnects) to the Analysis Plus brand catapulted its performance into incredible heights especially if you keep reminding yourself of the amp's cheap price! It can literally put to shame many integrated amps (lalo na HT receivers) twice/thrice its price.

hello boss audio_tyro

any feedback on its performance as a pre-amp for a bigger Rotel amp like the rb-1080? thanks!
Title: Re:Rotel RA-01 / RA-02
Post by: audio_tyro on Jan 11, 2003 at 12:03 PM
Hi Sir Tuff_u_gong,

wag naman 'boss' tawag mo. hehe. kakahiya.

Unfortunately, this 931Mk. 2 does not have preouts, therefore you cannot use it as a Preamp. Corollarily, I have not listened to Rotel 1080 power amp as well. But even my friends in Singapore have very high regard on this brand. Sabi nila Rotel is highend na affordable ang price. On the week of Jan. 20-24, I have scheduled a visit to a friend in BF Heva who has that 1080 power amp, driving a pair of B&W Nautilus 805s. He used his Rotel 965 receiver as preamp only (galit sa pera). He has been urging me to hear his wonderful setup. Will keep you posted.

Pare, what speakers are you using now?

Title: Re:Rotel RA-01 / RA-02
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Jan 12, 2003 at 12:05 AM
Hi Sir Tuff_u_gong,

wag naman 'boss' tawag mo. hehe. kakahiya.

Unfortunately, this 931Mk. 2 does not have preouts, therefore you cannot use it as a Preamp. Corollarily, I have not listened to Rotel 1080 power amp as well. But even my friends in Singapore have very high regard on this brand. Sabi nila Rotel is highend na affordable ang price. On the week of Jan. 20-24, I have scheduled a visit to a friend in BF Heva who has that 1080 power amp, driving a pair of B&W Nautilus 805s. He used his Rotel 965 receiver as preamp only (galit sa pera). He has been urging me to hear his wonderful setup. Will keep you posted.

Pare, what speakers are you using now?



thanks audio_tyro! (hayan sir, wala nang "boss")

i've auditioned the rb-1080 with the rsp-1066 using my speakers and it sounded great, not tube-sounding enough but still great. kaya lang di ako galit sa pera like your friend kaya am looking for a more affordable match.

i think the stereo pre-amp Rotel designed to match with the rb-1080 and 1090 power amps is the rc-1090. haven't seen one
in Manila yet but would be willing to try if i saw one. siempre mas maganda kung mas mura.

i've also heard the rb-1080 with signature 805s (wow!) pero audio research yung naka kabit na pre-amp kaya din siguro maganda.

btw, i'm using a pair of b&w 602s3s.

i look forward to your feedback on the 965/1080 combo, sir.


Title: Re:Rotel RA-01 / RA-02
Post by: stradale on Jan 12, 2003 at 12:28 AM
tuff,

Saan mo na audition yung rb1080?  Meron din silang rb1070?  How was the sound with your 602S3?  Much better ba as compared to using your normal Japanese AVR?  In what way is it better? And lastly, whats the ballpark figure for that rb1080?  Daming tanong ano?
Title: Re:Rotel RA-01 / RA-02
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Jan 12, 2003 at 09:16 AM
tuff,

Saan mo na audition yung rb1080?  Meron din silang rb1070?  How was the sound with your 602S3?  Much better ba as compared to using your normal Japanese AVR?  In what way is it better? And lastly, whats the ballpark figure for that rb1080?  Daming tanong ano?

hi stradale!

kumusta na? sent you a PM

tuff
Title: Re:Rotel RA-01 / RA-02
Post by: slowhand on Jan 12, 2003 at 09:54 AM
Has anybody heard the Rotel 1095 5-channel amp?
Title: Re:Rotel RA-01 / RA-02
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Jan 13, 2003 at 07:51 AM
Has anybody heard the Rotel 1095 5-channel amp?

great HT amp. perfect match with rotel rsp-1066 whether
for HT or 2-channel audio.

not bad for HT when matched with yamaha rxv-630. the
combination is an ear-bleed for 2-channel music, though.
Title: Re:Rotel RA-01 / RA-02
Post by: john5479 on Jan 13, 2003 at 09:20 PM
Has anybody heard the Rotel 1095 5-channel amp?

great HT amp. perfect match with rotel rsp-1066 whether
for HT or 2-channel audio.

not bad for HT when matched with yamaha rxv-630. the
combination is an ear-bleed for 2-channel music, though.


which is due to the yammy not the rotel amp  :)
Title: Re:Rotel RA-01 / RA-02
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Jan 13, 2003 at 11:10 PM
Has anybody heard the Rotel 1095 5-channel amp?

great HT amp. perfect match with rotel rsp-1066 whether
for HT or 2-channel audio.

not bad for HT when matched with yamaha rxv-630. the
combination is an ear-bleed for 2-channel music, though.


which is due to the yammy not the rotel amp  :)

i think the rotel amps contribute to the brightness too. rotel
processors are probably more subdued than normal kaya it matches well with their amps.

got the yamaha kasi cheapest receiver with pre-outs sya with
DPL2.
Title: Re:Rotel RSX-1065
Post by: enygma on Apr 17, 2003 at 11:20 AM

incidentally and something for you high end ht/music buffs to think about, i have a brand new pre-pro & 5-channel amp combo for sale: RSP-1066 dd ex/dts-es
7.1 pre-pro and RMB-1095 200wx5 power amp (thx).
P75,000 and P110,000 resp.

ang ganda ng review ng what hi-fi sa rotel rsp-1066 using a different power amp rmb1075. pinakaleast expensive siya don sa lahat ng tinest nila but for price and performance, 5 stars ang nakuha niya. mapa-ht and music, oks na oks.  :D
Title: Re:Rotel RSX-1065
Post by: Qman on Apr 17, 2003 at 12:02 PM

incidentally and something for you high end ht/music buffs to think about, i have a brand new pre-pro & 5-channel amp combo for sale: RSP-1066 dd ex/dts-es
7.1 pre-pro and RMB-1095 200wx5 power amp (thx).
P75,000 and P110,000 resp.

ang ganda ng review ng what hi-fi sa rotel rsp-1066 using a different power amp rmb1075. pinakaleast expensive siya don sa lahat ng tinest nila but for price and performance, 5 stars ang nakuha niya. mapa-ht and music, oks na oks.  :D

before the end of this year sigurado ikaw ang pinaka maraming post dito sa thread nato ;D

1.5K USD.. yakang yaka pag dating mo UAE :D

eh ano pala ang match nilang speakers dito sa kanilang review?
Title: Re:Rotel RSX-1065
Post by: enygma on Apr 17, 2003 at 08:33 PM

Quote

before the end of this year sigurado ikaw ang pinaka maraming post dito sa thread nato ;D

1.5K USD.. yakang yaka pag dating mo UAE :D

eh ano pala ang match nilang speakers dito sa kanilang review?
Quote

hehehe pre, di naman siguro. ngayon lang ito dahil napasyal lang ako sa website ng rotel.  ;D if ever maghigh end ako- a pre-amp and a power amplifier, i'll be considering this brand. dapat bahay na muna ang asikasuhin ko and next time na lang muna ito. kailangan matuloy muna ako ng dubai noh at kumayod ng kumayod. hehehe ikaw nga diyan panay ang hanap mo ng second receiver to be mo. sa review na nakita ko di ko matandaan iyung speaker na ginamit nila sa test but iyung cables and interconnects na ginamit nila, pwedeng ng bumili ng isang mid-end na receiver. tindi talaga ng set-up na iyon.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Rotel RSX-1065
Post by: john5479 on Apr 17, 2003 at 10:40 PM
dudes mabigat as in mabigat yung 5 channel amp ng rotel, may gulong nga yan e, di puwedeng i hand carry hehehe
Title: Re:Rotel RSX-1065
Post by: Qman on Apr 19, 2003 at 09:31 PM
mabigat nga 20 kgs. both rsx 1065 and 1055.

1065 is around 98K pesoses
1055 is around 69k pesoses.

hmmm... enygma....  malapit lapit na ;D  

same time next year?
Title: Re:Rotel RSX-1065
Post by: Qman on Apr 20, 2003 at 02:17 AM
dudes mabigat as in mabigat yung 5 channel amp ng rotel, may gulong nga yan e, di puwedeng i hand carry hehehe

john,

na-audition mo ba ire, ano comments mo?
hanggang tawag lang kasi ako ;D ;D alang tsansa ma audition :D
Title: Re:Rotel RSX-1065
Post by: john5479 on Apr 20, 2003 at 03:05 AM
di ko pa na-audition yung rsx-1065, pero nakita ko na upclose and based on the build quality you'll be impressed, hindi ito basta maiitsa sa labas thats for sure hehe.
Title: Re:Rotel RSX-1065
Post by: Qman on May 19, 2003 at 12:20 PM
enygma,

na-audition mo na ba ang rotel products sa uae?  post naman dine. :D
Title: Re:Rotel RSX-1065
Post by: Courage on May 19, 2003 at 01:17 PM
Wla ba ditong RSX 1055?
Title: Re:Rotel RSX-1065
Post by: john5479 on May 19, 2003 at 03:49 PM
a used 1055 was put on sale here a couple of months ago
Title: Re:Rotel RSX-1065
Post by: levi on May 19, 2003 at 11:05 PM
Wla ba ditong RSX 1055?

   I saw a unit at Sound dimension in PS1.
Title: Re:Rotel RSX-1065
Post by: Qman on Jun 02, 2003 at 12:00 AM
enygma,
paramdam ka naman kumusta ang rotel sa uae.  review naman diyan.

enjoy
Title: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: frieden on Dec 11, 2003 at 02:28 PM
Hi, all
i'm looking for a 971 mkII review or comparison with ra-02, I just want to know if there is a difference with the two model. I'm know that ra-971 mkII is 60wpc, black in color, no remote, it cost 15+ k and ra-02 is a 40wpc, silver in color, with remote, cost 17k. My concern is the sound quality, there is a lot of ra-02 review and write-ups in the web but 971 mkII has only few.

thanks,
frieden


Title: Re:Rotel ra-02 Rotel ra-971 mkII sound quality comparison
Post by: akyatbundok on Dec 11, 2003 at 05:10 PM
maybe you may want to add to your list: Rotel RA-980BX

its in the buy/sell section... see the post from crisel.  there's a link to audioreview.  look for the loooong review that compares the 980BX, 985BX and 971mkII.

taking out the reviewer's long drivel:
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

"Up goes the RCD-991 CD tank, along comes the RA-971mkII to start with. Or goodness! My ears feel like they've been taken ear plugs out and they can hear the music again!!!"

. . .

"So, finished and quite satisfied with the 971mkII and prepared to take it home I spot a RA-980BX sitting on the bottom shelf and ask a dealer to hook it. And, h*ll, what a difference! Although very subtle - the 971 is a great amp by all means - the better quality of the 980BX is pronounced. More air, more details, even more dynamics. Ok, I could live with the 971mkII at the end of the day, but you know you always want better, especially if you still keep yourself within your budget limits and there are more options to choose from. So, 980BX wins over.
Then a dealer tells me about the RA-985 and intrigued from what I just heard I ask him to bring and hook one.
Let's just read the specs. The RA-985 is a more contemporary replacement for the 980BX (now extinct), has a remote control, multi-zone, extra pre-out and based on the 980BX design.
And luckily a demo-sample for US$500 (AU$1000) is available, speaking the same money as a brand new 980BX. The 985 must be a winner?
Let's switch to it and compare.
What?!!!!
The air's gone, treble muddled and suppressed, those precious details are lost. Even it appeared to sound worse than the 971mkII.
So, the utlimate winner is the RA-980BX.
Here are my relative ratings (by 5 points scale):
RA-971mkII: Sound - 4, Value - 5, Features - 4
RA-980BX: Sound - 5, Value - 4, Features - 3.5 (no dedicated pre-out but has an external pre-power sections separation outlets)
RA-985: Sound - 3.5, Value - 3, Features - 5."

. . . end of quote
Title: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: Narayan on Dec 31, 2003 at 01:01 PM
hi, anyone out there who currently owns and enjoys any rotel AVRs or integrated amps/separates? share with us about your rotel gears.

to start with, i have recently acquired a pre-owned but mint condition RB-1080 power amp. it is a 200wpc black beauty that is built like a tank. it has provisions  for both balanced(xlr) and unbalanced(rca) connections for added flexibility.it is connected to the ws tono preamp driving a pair of MS 914s with a rotel rcd 965bx as source. great combination :D
Title: Re:Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: iceman90a on Dec 31, 2003 at 01:08 PM
Yan ba yung galing kay cybermms Sir? Congrats! ganda yan  :)

have you tried using it with just a passive preamp? how does it sound? warm, bright?

thanks!
Title: Re:Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: Narayan on Dec 31, 2003 at 01:27 PM
Yan ba yung galing kay cybermms Sir? Congrats! ganda yan  :)

have you tried using it with just a passive preamp? how does it sound? warm, bright?

thanks!

thanks bro. got the unit from my sister's business associate who is more into tube gears.

have not tried it yet with a passive preamp. so far, have tried it as well with a MF rainbow preamp. the tono showed a little more detail than the MF. i would say it sounds warm enough for me.
Title: Re:Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: ZEPHYR on Dec 31, 2003 at 05:07 PM
hi, anyone out there who currently owns and enjoys any rotel AVRs or integrated amps/separates? share with us about your rotel gears.

to start with, i have recently acquired a pre-owned but mint condition RB-1080 power amp. it is a 200wpc black beauty that is built like a tank. it has provisions  for both balanced(xlr) and unbalanced(rca) connections for added flexibility.it is connected to the ws tono preamp driving a pair of MS 914s with a rotel rcd 965bx as source. great combination :D

I too have recently acquired a pre-owned but mint condition 100wpc RA-980BX stereo intergrated amp., its one of the few Rotel stereo integrated amps with powerrrr. It has provisions for 6 inputs - cd, tuner, phono, 2 tapes and aux.

My Rotel RA-980BX is also connected to the ws "tono" preamp driving a pair of MS 914s. And like Narayan's - the Rotel + WS preamp + MS 914s is one great sounding combination  ;D ;D

Title: Re:Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: Narayan on Jan 02, 2004 at 01:25 PM
Zephyr,

bro, congrats on your excellent acquisition. bagay talaga yan dun sa MS914s. i would dare say not much different from the rb1080. wait till ma break-in na yang mga 914s mo and you will appreciate your set up much more :D
Title: Re:Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: Philander on Jan 02, 2004 at 11:24 PM
Any comment with this amplifier... Rotel Ra-930AX.

Here's the manual:
http://www.rotel.com/support/pdfs/manuals/ra930ax.pdf

Pictures:
(http://i20.ebayimg.com/02/i/01/19/af/1c_1.JPG)
(http://i1.ebayimg.com/01/i/01/1b/12/fb_1.JPG)
(http://i7.ebayimg.com/02/i/01/19/f2/ee_1.JPG)
(http://i14.ebayimg.com/02/i/01/19/b5/a4_1.JPG)

Price is about 10K, is this still a good buy?

Thanks.
Title: Re:Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: Narayan on Jan 03, 2004 at 10:41 AM
bro philander,

looks very similar with zephyr's integrated amp although dont know the power rating and features of this one. suggest you pm bro zephyr as to how much he got his unit so you will have a reference.
Title: Re:Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: john5479 on Jan 03, 2004 at 12:35 PM
i found that same model in a shop at raon selling for 7.5k, I think that model puts out 30w per channel if i am not mistaken.
Title: Re:Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: KD on Jan 03, 2004 at 12:56 PM
Any comment with this amplifier... Rotel Ra-930AX.

I started my audiophile habit with this amplifier more than ten years ago. This amp has excellent midrange and good bass. I have since sold my amp to fund a series of upgrades but from time to time I come across it in shops selling used audio gear. It still gives out good quality sound and I would not mind buying this amp again, if the price is reasonable.

For those of you who wish to get reacquainted with analog, the RA-930AX has a phono stage, which I found quite good.

Today I still own Rotel equipment. The small solid state system in my study room is anchored by a Rotel RX-940AX stereo receiver (40 watts per channel) which was built around the same time as the RA-930AX. My Rotel drives a pair of ProAc Super Tablette mini monitor speakers and I never tire of the sound. This is the system I listen to late at night or early in the morning when it is inappropriate to fill the house with sound from the tube system in the living room.

P7.5k sounds like a steal for the sound you will be getting. What shop in Raon is this?
Title: Re:Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: john5479 on Jan 03, 2004 at 01:16 PM
i think its pacific electronics, its always better to inspect it, as when i did i noticed some rusty spots inside...might be mistaken though.
Title: Re:Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: enygma on Jan 15, 2004 at 06:43 PM
i asked an electronic store in dubai if they do have second hand rotel receivers and amplifiers and they responded by sending me a list of prices of their 2nd hand receivers. actually mga demo unit siya. meron din silang acoustic energy aegis evolution one and three. meron na akong receiver diyan sa pinas hk5500 but curious lang talaga ako how a rotel amp sounds. unluckily nasa abu dhabi ako kaya kailangan ko pang pumunta ng dubai para mademo ang mga ito. ang pinakamurang combi na pinadala sa akin is rotel 966 processor and rmb 1066 6 channel power amp. in pesos less than 40k iyung dalawa....
Title: Re:Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: Narayan on Jan 15, 2004 at 09:33 PM
considering na mga demo units lang and hindi used units, parang ang laki ng kamurahan ng presyo diyan ah :D
Title: Re:Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 16, 2004 at 09:03 AM
I am eyeing the Rotel RMB1066 which is a 60 watt RMS 6-channel power amplifier that can be bridged to 3 channels at more than 130 watts per.  Anybody using this model?  
Title: Re:Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 19, 2004 at 11:57 AM
Finally found this thread with my unanswered querry.  I remember someone selling this at the Buy and Sell section.  Does anyone have anything to say about this unit?  
Title: Re:Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: kid on Mar 19, 2004 at 01:02 PM
Nephilim is selling his RMB1066 until today.
Title: Re:Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 19, 2004 at 02:11 PM
Nephilim is selling his RMB1066 until today.

Hope he visits this thread to tell us how the amp is.  Unless he accepts visa or mastercard, i can't make any offer.  
Title: Re:Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: kid on Mar 20, 2004 at 06:48 PM
Hope he visits this thread to tell us how the amp is.  Unless he accepts visa or mastercard, i can't make any offer.  

send him a PM so he can visit your thread and give some reviews...
Title: Re:Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 22, 2004 at 10:44 AM
Thanks Punk_kid.  Silly me, why didn't i think of doing that.  

Anyway, I've already made my decision.
Title: Re:Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: audi0slave on Mar 23, 2004 at 01:42 PM
any owners of RA-02 int-amp here? compared to NAD C320BEE, which of these two amps would you prefer?

more or less they have the same specs on power capability but it boils down really to one's preference.

 ;)
Title: Re:Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: krets pulpol on Mar 23, 2004 at 01:58 PM
yep audioslave, it boils down to preference!  ;)

and it depends on the speaker you're using.  some speakers might not do well in nad amps.

nad - on the bright side, not recommended if you're using stinging tweeters  ;D

rotel - warm side, much better with the b&ws

both amps are great, good soundstage and oozing with details.

my opinion only  ;)
Title: Re:Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 23, 2004 at 02:01 PM
rotel - warm side, much better with the b&ws


I heard ROTEL is the official amp of B&W, used to design, voice and test B&W speakers.  So the two are a match made in heaven.    

Personally, I'd go for a ROTEL anytime.  Just the solid build quality alone is enough to make me happy.  Let alone the sonics.  

I know of at least 2 owners of ROTEL who say the units they have are very senstive to speaker terminal shorts.  The amps will die earlier than the protection circuit can be activated.  Otherwise, they're great.  Just be careful about such conditions.  

I've also checked-out the NAD C272 power amp recently and was disappointed its front panel appeared to me to be made of plastic.  Don't know about the receivers and integrateds.   Aesthetics and build beside, am sure NAD's sonics are just as great.  
Title: Re:Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: krets pulpol on Mar 23, 2004 at 02:55 PM
yep av_phile1! be careful with the terminals of rotel amps, they are very very sensitive in shorts esp. when bi-wiring and bi-amping.  ;) once it shorts, your amp goes directly to the service center hehe  ;D
Title: Re:Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: audi0slave on Mar 23, 2004 at 03:07 PM

nad - on the bright side, not recommended if you're using stinging tweeters  ;D

rotel - warm side, much better with the b&ws

both amps are great, good soundstage and oozing with details.

my opinion only  ;)

krets,

you might have it merry-mixed up. from my listening experience, I think NAD is the one capable of delivering a warm and soothingly relaxing music but this can be appreciated only at a higher volume where it can definitely stir up a pleasant atmosphere. Rotel, on the other hand, have the advantage of dwelling more on better soundstaging and precised imaging with richer details.




 ;)
Title: Re:Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 23, 2004 at 03:09 PM
yep av_phile1! be careful with the terminals of rotel amps, they are very very sensitive in shorts esp. when bi-wiring and bi-amping.  ;) once it shorts, your amp goes directly to the service center hehe  ;D

Yup, you really have to be extra cautious when bi-wiring.  When my new MS speakers arrived, in my excitement,  I had them bi-wired without removing the shorting plates.  That would have beenjust  fine, but the polarities from my LF and HF were opposite.  Thus, a short existed.  When I turned on the Onkyo Integra, I had only the right channel working and the left had its relay protection circuit activated.  It lasted a good 10 seconds or more, unitl i shut off the receiver with a nervous and palpitating heart.  When the short was corrected, to my relief, the Onkyo resumed normal operation.  No problem.

Such a condition would be enough to ruin a ROTEL.  Not surprisingly, most commerical receivers and amps  have better protection circuits.  I could only guess that they were designed to be IDIOT proof - more tolerant and forgiving of careless users - mostly amateurs.  I guess ROTEL and other hi-end products are designed for the more seasoned and careful audiophiles.  More robust but less forgiving.
Title: Re:Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: krets pulpol on Mar 23, 2004 at 03:55 PM
it's just my observation too audioslave  ;) try listening the nads with b&w speakers for several hours, it can be fatiguing to your ears. that's why pick a better speaker for the nad. by the way, the nad has a quicker thump on the bass.
Title: Re: Rotel RA-01 / RA-02
Post by: audi0slave on Apr 20, 2004 at 04:33 PM
anyone here using the RA-02 as a pre-amp?

it has a pair of pre-outs and the speaker selector knob can be set to OFF position so it can be used as a pre-amp.

 :-*
Title: Re: Rotel RA-01 / RA-02
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 20, 2004 at 05:26 PM
Interesting comment there Audioslave.  I'd be interested in its pre-amp function.  I know this may sound odd or even capricious, my apologies.  But i know some headphones are connected to the pre-outs instead of the usual headphone professional jacks.  And knowing some headphone amps can cost 3x that of the RA-02, I'd be very much interested in using this as a headphone amp.  At the moment,  my set-up (apart from the cassette deck and VCR which I rarely use)  doesn't have any headphone jack nor any spare pre-outs for this purpose. 
Title: Re: Rotel RA-01 / RA-02
Post by: qguy on Apr 22, 2004 at 10:42 AM
hmm ... if this can be done...then a Tube pre amp can work as a head phone amp ???

Interesting comment there Audioslave.  I'd be interested in its pre-amp function.  I know this may sound odd or even capricious, my apologies.  But i know some headphones are connected to the pre-outs instead of the usual headphone professional jacks.  And knowing some headphone amps can cost 3x that of the RA-02, I'd be very much interested in using this as a headphone amp.  At the moment,  my set-up (apart from the cassette deck and VCR which I rarely use)  doesn't have any headphone jack nor any spare pre-outs for this purpose. 
Title: Re: Rotel RA-01 / RA-02
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 22, 2004 at 11:41 AM
I am seriously considering this route.  Most headphones have 16k-38kohm impedances and input voltage requirement of 160mv up to 600 millvolts.  This is within many preamp out specifications. 
Title: Re: Rotel RA-01 / RA-02
Post by: qguy on Apr 22, 2004 at 12:00 PM
some suggestions and a few crazy ideas

1. Can  a SET tube amp be use as a Headphone amp ?...like a 2A3 or an  SE EL84 ?...i mean connect the headphone to the speaker out of these amps ?

2. There are some inexpensive surplus amplifiers at the pier, i guess those 20-30 watt amp should not cost so much...maybe in the 2-3 thousand range...just look for the one with the headphone jack...
Title: Re: Rotel RA-01 / RA-02
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 22, 2004 at 12:25 PM
The thought has crossed my mind.  If i can find one with a pre-out, it would be worth getting for me.

The high impedance of headphones might ruin a tube output stage.  I believe tubes can breathe easier with lower impedance loads than ss amps at the speaker stage.  Maybe you're better off doing that with pre-amps. 


Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: redkoji on Apr 26, 2004 at 02:54 PM
its quite good to see that even in other topic...nad still being mentioned..thanks
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: audi0slave on Apr 28, 2004 at 11:41 AM
... because NAD products are among the best buy though it doesn't necessarily mean they're one of the best. NAD and Rotel are known for their budget priced but musically superior audio gears.

 :-*
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: kid on Apr 28, 2004 at 12:57 PM
Ive seen this Rotel 971mkII selling for 10k in the buy n sell section. Is this a good deal?
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: alanranch on Apr 28, 2004 at 02:05 PM
Is there any1 here who uses a ROTEL RB-03. HOw does it sound. Is it a good amp? Thanks
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 28, 2004 at 02:52 PM
Is there any1 here who uses a ROTEL RB-03. HOw does it sound. Is it a good amp? Thanks

ROTEL RB-03
(http://europe.rotel.com/products/images/rb-03.jpg)

Rated conservatively at 70wpc, this  2-channel torroid powered amp is priced very attractively.  I would have gotten this to power my rears. Had it come in black.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 28, 2004 at 03:01 PM
Ive seen this Rotel 971mkII selling for 10k in the buy n sell section. Is this a good deal?

Is this the Power amp RB971 or the Integrated Amp RA971
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: kid on Apr 28, 2004 at 05:21 PM
Is this the Power amp RB971 or the Integrated Amp RA971

RA971mkII integrated amp rated 60wpc
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 28, 2004 at 05:39 PM
Am not familiar with the mkII but the RA971 is an excellent high current integrated amp that is conservatively rated.  It can easily match some japanese brands specified at twice that power using DIN standards.  For 10T, this is still a good buy.  As an old and discontinued model (maybe more than 5 years), just check out the volume control as this is one weakness of previous Rotel models.  They can oxidize as all potentiometers do and introduce noise. But nothing an LPS cleaner can't correct. (unless its severe enough to merit replacement)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: krets pulpol on Apr 28, 2004 at 05:39 PM
this ra971 mk2 is a good buy for 10k depending how it was used.  i could have gotten this integrated amp (brand new) but it was sold to someone else.  it is rated for 60 watts compared to 40 watts of ra01 and ra02.  some audiophiles and enthusiasts prefer this model than the new ones even if it doesn't have a remote.  you can read the old reviews on different sites.  by the way, this is a rated integrated amp from rotel. 

a good replacement for this is the ra-1062, rated also and hi fi choice's 2003 product of the year (with remote) but at a whoppin' 30k ++

 8)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: kid on Apr 28, 2004 at 05:58 PM
thanks for your comments bros, ill auditioned it first.  ;D
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: KEN on Apr 28, 2004 at 06:14 PM
Any feedback/comment of RA01 or RA02, I'm new to audio and got limited budget and thinking of getting RA01/RA02 to partner with my RCD02, currently using RXV800 receiver for both audio and HT ....

TIA
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: krets pulpol on Apr 29, 2004 at 11:22 AM
hi ken, you can't go wrong with the ra01/02 if you're going to pair with your rcd.  these integrated amps are preferred for your rcd02 cdp by some users, others veer away to nads and hks.  ideally, ra01/02 should be matched to rcd02s.  your choice between ra01 and ra02 will narrow down if you prefer a remote control.  for 40 watts, it can fill up a small to mid-size room without strain and good timing.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 29, 2004 at 02:33 PM
Any feedback/comment of RA01 or RA02, I'm new to audio and got limited budget and thinking of getting RA01/RA02 to partner with my RCD02, currently using RXV800 receiver for both audio and HT ....

TIA

At sound dimension, the RA02 is around 17T. 
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: kid on Apr 29, 2004 at 05:51 PM
If anybody you know who wants to sell there rotel integrated amps, pls. PM me.  ::)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: nephilim on May 04, 2004 at 03:12 PM
Hello everyone.  I only now just stumbled onto this thread as I am guilty of not logging on to PinoyDVD of late.

av_phile1,

I am happy with my RMB1066.  As to giving a review, it would be unfair as I use them primarily for rear channel work.  The reason I got this unit was so that I have the option of using it in a second room in tandem with my RSP1066 pre/pro.  I actually was on the verge of selling this combo after having it for just 2 weeks, as I was headed towards a more serious two channel setup.  But alas, no takers.   :-\

A mistake I made was that I thought of using this in bridged mode to power my rears, which was to be a pair of Audience Dynes.  But I realized too late that it wouldn't match the nominal impedance of the Dynes.  Good thing I hadn't purchased the Dynes yet.  Right now it's powering my B&W LM1s, which was not supposed to be used for rears but for my PC.  They handle the the B&Ws very well though.  For a time, they were actually on bridged mode, and the B&Ws sounded even better.  But like I said, it's hard to give an honest review of the RMB1066 as all I hear from it are sound effects during my HT sessions. 

But am I happy with the RMB1066?  Put it this way, for a 6 channel amp that is bridgeable ... at the price of around P30k, who wouldn't be?

As to the RSP1066 pre/pro, I am more than happy with it.  It does have its bugs (bass doubling issue), which really is only an issue if you use the multi inputs for SACD or DVDA.  Otherwise, I find little fault with it.  I was using an Audio Analogue Paganini CDP with it as a pass thru preamp and it was just sweet.  I also tried using its processor, using my Philips dvd as a transport, and honestly, it sounded better than the Audio Analogue.  Well in fairness, the Audio Analogue Paganini's processor had the older specs (its not the mkII model) ... I think not even 24/96 yet.  Another plus is that the RSP1066's processor also decodes HDCD discs. 

If you're going the route of separates, there's no beating the RSP1066 in value for money.  The next cheapest pre/pro is in the P150k plus range, more than double the 1066's price.  However, the 1066 is being phased out and I think no longer stocked in Manila.  The replacement 1068 should be on its way in though.  The 1068 looks exactly the same but is said to sound better due to the improved processor. 
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: KEN on May 04, 2004 at 04:46 PM
Thanks av,krets yup decided to take Ra01 or Ra02 still saving a little more...thanks again
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: audi0slave on May 20, 2004 at 01:08 PM
If anybody you know who wants to sell their rotel integrated amps, pls. PM me.  ::)

bro, yung akin "for sale" baka gusto mo?

 ;D
Title: Re: Rotel Integrated Amplifiers
Post by: audi0slave on May 20, 2004 at 01:10 PM
Thanks av,krets yup decided to take Ra01 or Ra02 still saving a little more...thanks again

hi KEN, how's your RA-02? do you find it pleasing to the ears or just pleasing to the eyes.... he he he  ::)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: KEN on May 20, 2004 at 04:05 PM
Hi Audioslave...yup your right "pleasing to eyes" he..he..he, I didn't purchase it yet...it will cost me 27.5K at currecnt exchange rate...nakakahinayang compare dyan sa prevailing price sa atin..sayang 4 wks ago dyan ako pinas...1 month lang kasi vacation ko kaya di ko naka pag ikot ng husto. If I only knew of the price difference I could have bought it from there.Specially when I saw your post on assorted buy and sell...kaya eto still thinking/finding a friend who is schedule for vacation and willing to carry it for me....he..he..he

Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: audi0slave on May 21, 2004 at 12:15 PM
bro, seriously... i have no qualms or whinings about the performance of the RA-02. i don't want to disparage its sonic capabilities if you might have the impression that it's not worth it because i'm selling mine but the only reason why i'm disposing of my unit is that i find it icky to bring 2 remote controls every time i listen to music. i'm planning on getting a NAD C352 to complement an all-NAD set up so that I'll be using only one system remote control. The Rotel RA-02 would surely trample any int-amp in the same class of its own like the NAD C320BEE or even the Arcam A-65 (but not the Arcam A-65+, which is a big leap over its predecessor).

Hope you won't change your mind on your planned purchase of the RA-02. It excels on any type of music, even rock or fast beat and it has the thump and oommph that we ocassionally look for in an amp to bring us into a different level of mood if we ever decide to play it out loud.

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: av_phile1 on May 21, 2004 at 01:48 PM
..but the only reason why i'm disposing of my unit is that i find it icky to bring 2 remote controls every time i listen to music.
 ;D ;D

Why not use a universal remote? 
Title: Re: Rotel RA-01 / RA-02
Post by: audi0slave on May 21, 2004 at 03:20 PM


Why not use a universal remote? 

instead of spending around 3-4K for a universal remote control, I would rather add the money to the proceeds of the sale and get a more powerful amp (NAD C352 @ 80wpc), thus complimenting my CD Player as well. it's the most logical upgrade path I could think of right now... ::)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: KEN on May 22, 2004 at 04:31 PM
Bro audioslave, I was referring to my budget when I quote "pleasing to the eyes he..he..he". Honestly when i read your post I did wonder why your selling it so early but as you said it dosn't suit your flavor(remote control).

I still have my sight on the RA02 specially when I read the 12V trigger, coz RCD02 doesnt have standby mode and if I'm not mistaken RA02 have also 12V trigger which I can use to put my RCD02 into standby mode when not in use.

Thanks on your comment regarding the RA02, its the price difference thats really holding me back sayang kasi...but most pobably I will still end up with RA02 .
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: audi0slave on May 22, 2004 at 04:51 PM
Yup, the RA-02 does have a 12V trigger which you can use to interconnect the RCD-02. But just to inform you, the RA-02 can't be turned "off" by its supplied remote control. Instead, pressing the power button would just let it go into the "standby" mode. You still have to push the power button on the amp itself to completely power it off.

If I just have the same CD Player (RCD-02) as yours, I wouldn't be selling the RA-02 at all.

 ;D

BTW, san ba location mo ngayon, bro?
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: KEN on May 22, 2004 at 06:04 PM
Thanks for the tip regarding power off/turn off design of the RA02. just simply having the facility to put  my CDP to standby mode will be enough...Bro dito ko sa lupa ng mga camelleo at langis...Jeddah,Saudi Arabia.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: bayonic on Jul 24, 2004 at 11:49 PM
mabuHI

where can I audition Rotel products in Manila ?
anyone seen the Rotel RSX1056 ?


thanks in advance
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: Narayan on Jul 25, 2004 at 10:08 PM
hi bro bayonic,

you may check out and audition rotel products at sound dimension at park square 1. they may have the model you are looking for :D
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: slayer on Jul 25, 2004 at 10:43 PM
You can also check out watt hifi in makati cinema square.  You have lots of options.  ;D
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: LETOR on Sep 11, 2004 at 12:34 PM
I'm using Rotel Stereo Integrated Amp RA-985BX, its 100 wpc, with damping factor of 400. I paired it with a Wharfedale Diamond 8.1 and a Polk Audio Powered Subwoofer PSW350. Its a performer! Wharfs 8.1 had many citation. I like the end result of this duo. It has a wide soundstage, warm sounding and very natural midrange. No stinging effect of high frequencies which often cause listening fatigue. Wharf and Rotel Amp is just kinda' good combination too.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: Narayan on Sep 11, 2004 at 05:47 PM
hi letor,

welcome to pinoydvd and congrats on your set-up :D may i know what other gears are you using with your rotel amp...thanks
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: LETOR on Sep 14, 2004 at 01:03 PM
hi letor,

welcome to pinoydvd and congrats on your set-up :D may i know what other gears are you using with your rotel amp...thanks

Im using my Rotel Amp for music listening only. My gears attached are  Pioneer DVD/CD Player (SACD/DVD-A) 655A,  a Kenwood CD Player, Denon Tape Deck, Kenwood Turntable (I have a lot of LP collection), Polk Audio PSW350 Powered Subwoofer, Monster Cable Interconnects for Subwoofer and audio sources.  I'm using IXOS speaker cables, bi-wired with banana type connectors for the speakers.

I used to have 30 bands/ch graphic equalizer but lately I removed it because Im more inclined to purist approach now.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: kid on Sep 14, 2004 at 04:52 PM
Welcome to PinoyDVD sir!

I am also a Rotel amp user before................. now its for sale  ;D

i prefer a minimalist setup :P
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: Narayan on Sep 14, 2004 at 09:17 PM


Im using my Rotel Amp for music listening only. My gears attached are  Pioneer DVD/CD Player (SACD/DVD-A) 655A,  a Kenwood CD Player, Denon Tape Deck, Kenwood Turntable (I have a lot of LP collection), Polk Audio PSW350 Powered Subwoofer, Monster Cable Interconnects for Subwoofer and audio sources.  I'm using IXOS speaker cables, bi-wired with banana type connectors for the speakers.



thanks...gamit pala lahat with the various gears connected...sulit :D
Title: Rotel 1065
Post by: odontek on Dec 21, 2004 at 11:28 AM
 :) Hi guys, what would be a good match for this amp. I was thinking of getting either a B&W or Focal JM Lab would this be a good match. Any info can surely help. Thanks and I hope to hear from you soon.  :D
Title: Re: Rotel 1065
Post by: krets pulpol on Dec 21, 2004 at 01:02 PM
what model of b&w and focal jm lab are we talking here?  care to specify bro.

 :D
Title: Re: Rotel 1065
Post by: odontek on Dec 21, 2004 at 01:05 PM
Sir for the B&W the 7 series na floor standing I forgot the # but its not the highest model for the 7 and for the JM Lab the 726 or the 716.  :)
Title: Re: Rotel 1065
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 21, 2004 at 01:41 PM
The 700 series of B&W is among the finest speakers out there, only to be topped by their 800 nautulus line.  Personally, if i were to get a B&W speaker, I'd strart with the 700 series.   Might as well get the flagshp B&W sub as well.  Or Rel.  They'll make a perfect match to any Rotel amp or receiver.  Afterall, B&W voice their speakers on Rotel amps which is their official choice for amps.
Title: Re: Rotel 1065
Post by: odontek on Dec 21, 2004 at 01:57 PM
Sir Av Phile, have you heard the JM Labs? I only read good things about it and I'll be auditioning them this week.  I've heard the Nautilus series with this amp but its too expensive. Sobrang layo ba nang sound diff compared to the 7 series? Would I notice it even if i'm new to this? Pasensya na sir sa mga tanong takot lang to invest on equipments baka magsisi sa huli. :) :)
Title: Re: Rotel 1065
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 21, 2004 at 02:23 PM
Only through ads and some forums.  Haven't heard them first hand. 

The disparity in prices between the nautulus line and the series 700 is really large.  Sonic difference may exist but that is often a matter of personal perceptions. The nautilus is used as monitor speakers for some Telarc recordings.  But their 700 series inherits most of the technologies behind the higher models at a more price-friendly level.

The only way to make sure you'd be content with your investment is to hear your shortlist first hand.  If you can audition them at home, better. You just have to compare them yourself and be prepared to make compromises based on your budget and your listening preferrnces.  Then make your choice based on the compromise that will make you happy.  You may want to google search the net for some specific models and reviews, and listen to recommendations from friends and this forum.  But at the end of the day, your value judgement is what counts.

Title: Re: Rotel 1065
Post by: krets pulpol on Dec 21, 2004 at 02:35 PM
7 series! wow, if i had the budget probably i'll get these to pair with the rotel amp  ;D
the 705 was awarded Eisa European Loudspeaker of the year so i guess that goes to show the series can speak for itself.  malayo ba difference nya sa nautilus?  di naman siguro, but much acclaimed na kasi ang nautilus and proven na sound quality ng nautilus.  yung 7 series was derived from the old cdm series if i recall it correctly.  iba rin signature ng nautilus compared to the 7 series, mas maganda coherence ng highs and lows ng nautilus.

about the focal jm labs chorus line, their floorstanders were acclaimed to have good harmonics and good coherence among tweeters, mid drivers and bass drivers compared with the 7 series floorstanders of b&w.

yep, try mo na lang kung ano gusto ng tenga mo dun sa dalawa.

okidokes  :D
Title: Re: Rotel 1065
Post by: krets pulpol on Dec 21, 2004 at 02:54 PM
nga pala, i'll pick the b&w of course! meron na akong brand loyalty eh hehe  ;D
i like their sound quality!
Title: Re: Rotel 1065
Post by: odontek on Dec 21, 2004 at 03:59 PM
Thanks guys looks like the B&W is winning. I still have to hear the JM's though. Thank you again for all the feedback keep it coming sir.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Rotel 1065
Post by: odontek on Dec 21, 2004 at 04:03 PM
Nga pala sir, meron bang specials for Pinoy DVD members. Where did you get yours?
Title: Re: Rotel 1065
Post by: krets pulpol on Dec 21, 2004 at 04:57 PM
ehehe you still have to listen to jm focal lab, great speakers too! so check mo din kung mas ok para sa 'yo

sadly, wala! or bihira! try mo architectural audio sa greenbelt if they carry both speakers.
yung b&w speakers marami nito, sound dimension in park square carries them.

if i remember it right, the 703 costs 150k+ pair.

Title: Re: Rotel 1065
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 21, 2004 at 05:35 PM


if i remember it right, the 703 costs 150k+ pair. ;D



Yup, down to earth price. 
(http://www.bwspeakers.com/images/SpeakerModel/images/703/703_main.jpg)
This 703 has been on my wish list for quite some time.  Still wishing and hoping to win the lotto to get it. ;D

(http://www.bwspeakers.com/gfx/globa_gfx/example_image.jpg)
Compare that with the giant $40,000 B&W Nautilus or about P2.3M!!!!  A pair.  And is part of their prestige or signature series. (I heard the landed cost is closer to 3M.)  This model is what started it all.  NOw this needs a lotto jackpot of around 70M.  I mean you probably need at least a 50M mansion to house a 2M speaker pair.  Or else you'd end up with the saying:  "a speaker with a house."  ;D

(http://www.bwspeakers.com/images/SpeakerModel/images/Nautilus_800/main.jpg)
The newer 800 series have been rebranded as Nautilus 800, suggesting their heritage with the signature models   Starting at around 80T for their center models, if I recall right.   The floorstander pictured above I think cost short of 400T.  A pair.  And requires around 3 people to carry each.  Nice talking to the head honcho at Sound Dimension.  ;D
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: nephilim on Jan 03, 2005 at 03:43 PM
av_phile1,

I actually found a Nautilus for sale (2nd hand of course) at a great price of $20,000 only.   ::)  I think it was somewhere in South America or something like that.

Of course, once you get one of these , that would mean you'd need a huge space to house them, plus eight monoblocks amps to power each of its eight drivers.   >:D

Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 04, 2005 at 10:23 AM
Nephilim,

$20,000 for a second hand speaker!!! Wow.  It's half price alright, but still requires a lotto jackpot for me. ;D  And I would hate to imagine what my excess baggage fee will look like.   ;D  Well, if i'm coming from South America, I'll most likely bring home an Inca treasure or something like out of Indiana Jones.  Not a speaker.  ;D 

And yes, you need a mansion to house something like that. Kailangan angkop din yung surroundings.  ;D
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: nephilim on Jan 04, 2005 at 12:25 PM
av_phile1,

You got it.  A mansion would be suitable.  The listening room should also have a Dali or a Picasso to match the contemporary look of the Nautilus. 

 ;)

Sorry to veer away from the topic
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: abj104 on Jan 12, 2005 at 08:52 PM
mga sirs
could somebody post his review of RA-03? Thanks!

any opinion also ,im planning to get either of the 02 or 03 series
kaya lang di ko pa alam difference ng presyo at reasonable ba talaga kung 03 ang kukuhain ko?
thanks sa mga opinion in advance.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: levi on Jan 13, 2005 at 12:11 AM
Pls stick to the topic.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: odontek on Jan 14, 2005 at 03:47 PM
Hi guys thanks for all the info. I finally got a bride for my Rotel  ;D ;D ;D Its the Focal JM Labs Cobals Series. The sound and appeal of this speakers to me are too much to resist. My next problem is the cables, does it really matter?  ???
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 14, 2005 at 03:58 PM
To me it doesn't.  There are no scientific evidence that they matter.   Marketing claims about cables are just that - snake oils. 

Just get a well constructed OFC gauge 10 or 12 from any AV shop.   

Check out www.audioholics.com for their articles on cable snake oils.

Btw, congrats on your Rotel brides.  ;D
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: bumblebee on Jan 14, 2005 at 04:04 PM
Hi guys thanks for all the info. I finally got a bride for my Rotel  ;D ;D ;D Its the Focal JM Labs Cobals Series. The sound and appeal of this speakers to me are too much to resist. My next problem is the cables, does it really matter?  ???

congrats on you new gears odontek :)

as for the cables, some people find it critical. others don't. try using generic cables for now. get used to the sound your system makes. you can get the branded cables after. then you'll know whether they matter or not.


Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: odontek on Jan 23, 2005 at 02:59 PM
Hello again, may tanong ulit mga sir. Whenever naka-on lang ang Rotel RSX 1065 ko I hear a low humming noise from my speakers,  is this normal or something is wrong with it. Is it the amp, kasi if I turn down the volume to "0" the hum disappears. What should I do? ? :-\?? Any suggestion would be most welcome.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: bongerds on Jan 23, 2005 at 08:13 PM
Hello again, may tanong ulit mga sir. Whenever naka-on lang ang Rotel RSX 1065 ko I hear a low humming noise from my speakers,  is this normal or something is wrong with it. Is it the amp, kasi if I turn down the volume to "0" the hum disappears. What should I do? ? :-\?? Any suggestion would be most welcome.

hindi normal yung humming noise, have you tried connecting a different amp to your speaker?
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 24, 2005 at 09:04 AM
You may have some lose or open grounding on the RCA interconnects you used to connect your player.  Check the interconnects. 
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: odontek on Jan 24, 2005 at 01:53 PM
If the cd player is turned off the humm is still there ??? Do you think its the amp? Does ROTEL have a service center here?
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 24, 2005 at 03:51 PM
The people at Sound Dimension Glorietta can answer that.  I think they have an affiliate authorized as a Rotel service center (apart from B&W).
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: Arnel E. on Mar 11, 2005 at 06:23 PM
I am still dreaming of getting a Rotel RSP-1098 and RMB-1095 combo.  Best value prepro/amp combo that I know of.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: 24bit on Apr 07, 2005 at 08:37 PM
Mga sir I recently bought RA-02. I'm quite satisfied with it kaya lang medyo hassle when I change from HT to Audio. I need to pull the speaker plug from AVR to RA-02 and vice-versa. I'm already using banana plug pero hassle pa rin. Can I use the pre-out of the AVR to connect my RA-02? Same sound kaya? If not improvement ba o distortion lang?

Any suggestion that will make my life easier without buying another separate speaker for audio? Thanks guys in advance...
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 08, 2005 at 07:15 AM
i think the preout is the way to go.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 08, 2005 at 11:17 AM
Mga sir I recently bought RA-02. I'm quite satisfied with it kaya lang medyo hassle when I change from HT to Audio. I need to pull the speaker plug from AVR to RA-02 and vice-versa. I'm already using banana plug pero hassle pa rin. Can I use the pre-out of the AVR to connect my RA-02? Same sound kaya? If not improvement ba o distortion lang?

Any suggestion that will make my life easier without buying another separate speaker for audio? Thanks guys in advance...

You have three options.

1.  Get a Speaker selector switch at ACA hardware store.  If i recall right it costs around 1T. This switch box allows you to connect to multiple speakers from a single stereo amp so you can select which stereo pair to use.  But since you have two amps and one set of speakers, you reverse the connection by treating the various speaker selector terminals as your amps and treat the terminals meant for a single amp as your speaker.  This for me is the better option as you benefit from using both gears.

2.   The other option will bypass the power amps of the Rotel.  Use the RA-02's pre-out to connect to the AVR's Main power input, NOT the line input as the pre-out already has gain.  That effectively bypasses the rotel's power amplfication.   So you only use the AVR's power amps for both audio and HT.    I hope your AVR has MAIN IN. 

Otherwise, you could connect the Rotel pre-out to any of the AVR's line ins but just tone down the volume from the Rotel as this could easily overdrive the AVR with all the harmonic distortion products. 

The problem lies if your Rotel has better power amplification than that of the AVR.

Another option will simply bypass everything from the Rotel, reducing it to a mere input selector box.  Connect the rotel's TAPE OUT to any line input of the AVR.  THis is often done if you need more inputs than your gear can accommodate; using an older integrated or preamp as a selector box.    But I don't suppose you'd want to do that with your Rotel. 

3   The Rotel can serve as the front amps for your DVDs and CDs, assuming its power amplification has about the same gain as your AVR's front amps.  That means turning ON both the Rotel and the AVR at the same time when on a 5.1 mode, and turning off the AVR when listening in stereo CD.   You connect the front L and R speakers to the Rotel.  And connect the front L and R of your DVD player to the Rotel as well as the CD player.  (This is analog connection.  Can't do this with digital connection. )   This way your rotel controls the front L and R speakers, while your AVR controls the Center and surrounds.  You can even use the AVR's vacated front L and R as your rears if you want and leave the surrounds vacant instead. Downside: you have two volume controls to fiddle when adjusting in multichannel mode.   And you can't benefit from the DSP settings on the AVR. ;D  But you'd be fine with Stereo CDs.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: 24bit on Apr 08, 2005 at 06:11 PM
You have three options.

1.  Get a Speaker selector switch at ACA hardware store.  If i recall right it costs around 1T. This switch box allows you to connect to multiple speakers from a single stereo amp so you can select which stereo pair to use.  But since you have two amps and one set of speakers, you reverse the connection by treating the various speaker selector terminals as your amps and treat the terminals meant for a single amp as your speaker.  This for me is the better option as you benefit from using both gears.

2.   The other option will bypass the power amps of the Rotel.  Use the RA-02's pre-out to connect to the AVR's Main power input, NOT the line input as the pre-out already has gain.  That effectively bypasses the rotel's power amplfication.   So you only use the AVR's power amps for both audio and HT.    I hope your AVR has MAIN IN. 

Otherwise, you could connect the Rotel pre-out to any of the AVR's line ins but just tone down the volume from the Rotel as this could easily overdrive the AVR with all the harmonic distortion products. 

The problem lies if your Rotel has better power amplification than that of the AVR.

Another option will simply bypass everything from the Rotel, reducing it to a mere input selector box.  Connect the rotel's TAPE OUT to any line input of the AVR.  THis is often done if you need more inputs than your gear can accommodate; using an older integrated or preamp as a selector box.    But I don't suppose you'd want to do that with your Rotel. 

3   The Rotel can serve as the front amps for your DVDs and CDs, assuming its power amplification has about the same gain as your AVR's front amps.  That means turning ON both the Rotel and the AVR at the same time when on a 5.1 mode, and turning off the AVR when listening in stereo CD.   You connect the front L and R speakers to the Rotel.  And connect the front L and R of your DVD player to the Rotel as well as the CD player.  (This is analog connection.  Can't do this with digital connection. )   This way your rotel controls the front L and R speakers, while your AVR controls the Center and surrounds.  You can even use the AVR's vacated front L and R as your rears if you want and leave the surrounds vacant instead. Downside: you have two volume controls to fiddle when adjusting in multichannel mode.   And you can't benefit from the DSP settings on the AVR. ;D  But you'd be fine with Stereo CDs.

Good suggestions av_phile 1, thank you.

Option 1: I think this is the best option for me but is there any degration of sound if I use this since there is another hop before the amp instead of direct?

One more follow-up question since my speaker have 4 connectors used for bi-wiring setup. Since I won't be using bi-wiring can I use 1 pair for AVR and the other pair for Rotel?
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 11, 2005 at 11:49 AM
Degradation in sonic quality will happen if the contact switches are corroded or lose.  As a guide, I'll give the selector switch a 2-year lifespan before some degradation starts. 

You can use the bi-wiring terminals on your speakers for bi-amplification using the ROTEL and the AVR to drive the HIs and the LOs of the speaker, whichever you prefer.    Just make sure both gears get the same input from your sources, using a suitable y-RCA adapter from the player to both amps.    Again your ears will decide on the balance between the hi and lo. 

Ideally, bi-amplification works best bypassing the internal crossovers of your speakers and using electronic crossovers at the pre-amp stage.  In your case, you would be utilizing the internal crossovers of the speakers if you bi-amp using the rotel integrated and a receiver.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: KEN on Apr 11, 2005 at 05:07 PM
Guys/Gurus,

Not sure if this is the right place to post this query...

Anyone using Rotel RC-03 stereo preamp ? Kindly paki post naman your feedback regarding this premp. I 'm thinking of getting one, presently using AVR as stereo preamp.Would it improve my 2ch listening compare to using the AVR (CDP is RCD02) ?


TIA
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 12, 2005 at 11:18 AM
I should think so, unless your AVR is a flagship model.  Most AVRs perform better in multichannel digital mode than in stereo.  If your AVR has stereo direct switch that bypassess the digital circuitry as well as a video off switch that bypass the video switching circuitry, chances are it should perform well in stereo. 

The RA-03 is modestly powered.  So you may not hear much difference with your AVR especially if the AVR has twice the power of the 03.  Unless the 03 has much better stereo separation and imaging, lower THDs as well as lower noise floor for clearer detailing.   Remember that in most situations, people perceive gears that are louder as being better.  BTW, what's your AVR?
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: 24bit on Apr 12, 2005 at 02:20 PM
Degradation in sonic quality will happen if the contact switches are corroded or lose.  As a guide, I'll give the selector switch a 2-year lifespan before some degradation starts. 

You can use the bi-wiring terminals on your speakers for bi-amplification using the ROTEL and the AVR to drive the HIs and the LOs of the speaker, whichever you prefer.    Just make sure both gears get the same input from your sources, using a suitable y-RCA adapter from the player to both amps.    Again your ears will decide on the balance between the hi and lo. 

Ideally, bi-amplification works best bypassing the internal crossovers of your speakers and using electronic crossovers at the pre-amp stage.  In your case, you would be utilizing the internal crossovers of the speakers if you bi-amp using the rotel integrated and a receiver.

Thanks AV_PHILE1, I'm currently looking for a good speaker selector switch. With regards to my question sorry for not making myself clear. What I'm planning to do is to use 1 pair of my speaker terminal to connect my Rotel integrated amp and the other pair to my AVR so in that case if I go for stereo I will turn-off my AVR then for movies turn-off the Rotel Int. Amp. What do you think will be the effect? Is this possible?
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 12, 2005 at 03:00 PM
Sorry for the misunderstanding there.  Let me get this, you want to use the bi-wireable terminals on your speakers to connect to both gears, pressumably without removing the jumper plates between the Hi and Lo termials of each speaker.

What you have in mind might work but kinda risky.  If for some reason you forgot to turn off the amp while using the other, there may be problems as the amp will also load on the other amp in parallel with the speaker, reducing the effective load.  I haven't personally tried this route.  An idle amp does have internal resistance at the output which, though higher than a speaker, will still receive current from another amp driving the same speaker.  As to what adverse effect this would have on the idle amp, I can only recount what a colleague did when, like you, he wired an HK citation power amp and an AVR to the same set of front speakers hoping to achieve like what you want.  After a while the HK Citation developed problems that sent it straight to the service center.  The AVR wasn't affected.  Don't ask me why.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: KEN on Apr 12, 2005 at 03:33 PM
I should think so, unless your AVR is a flagship model.  Most AVRs perform better in multichannel digital mode than in stereo.  If your AVR has stereo direct switch that bypassess the digital circuitry as well as a video off switch that bypass the video switching circuitry, chances are it should perform well in stereo. 

The RA-03 is modestly powered.  So you may not hear much difference with your AVR especially if the AVR has twice the power of the 03.  Unless the 03 has much better stereo separation and imaging, lower THDs as well as lower noise floor for clearer detailing.   Remember that in most situations, people perceive gears that are louder as being better.  BTW, what's your AVR?

Hi av_phile1

Presently I'm using RXV800 AV receiver but I like the sound of my Quad's stereo amplifier so I connected 3 of them on the RXV80O preout(main reason was for 2ch mode but also need to balance HT sound). RXV800 is set to direct process and effect off whenever I'm listening to 2ch stereo. Now I'm thinking of adding Rotel RC03 preamp to separate the CDP and power amps from the receiver and avoid using the Quads while on HT only.

Before I was contemplating of upgrading the RXV800 to either Azur540R or RXV1500/750 but then I will still be force to connect back my Quads, I would gain only the additional DSP,CH...etc. of the new receiver which for now I feel I dont need, happy already with 5.1 setup and adding speaker will eatup my space(2ch audio and HT will share common main via system control switch).

please check my other post http://pinoydvd.com/content/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=28&expv=0&?topic=35662.0


TIA
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 12, 2005 at 04:08 PM
Hi av_phile1

Presently I'm using RXV800 AV receiver but I like the sound of my Quad's stereo amplifier so I connected 3 of them on the RXV80O preout(main reason was for 2ch mode but also need to balance HT sound). RXV800 is set to direct process and effect off whenever I'm listening to 2ch stereo. Now I'm thinking of adding Rotel RC03 preamp to separate the CDP and power amps from the receiver and avoid using the Quads while on HT only.

Before I was contemplating of upgrading the RXV800 to either Azur54C or RXV1500/750 but then I will still be force to connect back my Quads, I would gain only the additional DSP,CH...etc. of the new receiver which for now I feel I dont need, happy already with 5.1 setup and adding speaker will eatup my space(2ch audio and HT will share common main via system control switch).

please check my other post http://pinoydvd.com/content/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=28&expv=0&?topic=35662.0


TIA

This set-up of an AVR acting like pre-amp/processor and  mated to distinct stereo power amps in any number to match the required channels is widely used by many multichanel audio and video enthusiasts in their upgrade paths.  Many mid-priced AVRs with pre-outs make for excellent multi-channel preamp/processor that can in fact rival dedicated multichannel preamps.  In some forums I've visited, they would swear that the preamp/processor section of the already powerful Yamaha Z9 will shame any dedicated Krell or Meridian preamps costing as much. So, they promptly use it as a preamp/processor mated to even more powerful Bryston amps.

If your current AVR can bypass its video-switching and digital circuits for direct analog stereo, adding a dedicated commercial-grade stereo preamp like the RC-03 may not yield dramatic improvements.  What makes for excellent analog stereo is the simplicity in the audio path.  The RC-03 does this, but so would an AVR if it truly bypasses the digital and video-switching circuits for a direct route from source to power amps.  An argument can be made that the volume control of most AVR operates in the digital domain so that a portion of the digital circuitry converting analog input to digital and back remains.  That's valid enough to use a purely analog preamp if you like.  Then again, if you can audition it and compare with the direct-stereo mode of your AVR, let your ears be the judge.

Why do you want to get rid of the Quads in HT mode?    Unless your AVR's power amps are indeed more powerful, your HT will definitely benefit from more musical amps.  But I guess doing so would help reduce the electric bill.  Your unloaded AVR amps are still consuming idle current afterall.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: KEN on Apr 12, 2005 at 06:02 PM
This set-up of an AVR acting like pre-amp/processor and  mated to distinct stereo power amps in any number to match the required channels is widely used by many multichanel audio and video enthusiasts in their upgrade paths.  Many mid-priced AVRs with pre-outs make for excellent multi-channel preamp/processor that can in fact rival dedicated multichannel preamps.  In some forums I've visited, they would swear that the preamp/processor section of the already powerful Yamaha Z9 will shame any dedicated Krell or Meridian preamps costing as much. So, they promptly use it as a preamp/processor mated to even more powerful Bryston amps.

If your current AVR can bypass its video-switching and digital circuits for direct analog stereo, adding a dedicated commercial-grade stereo preamp like the RC-03 may not yield dramatic improvements.  What makes for excellent analog stereo is the simplicity in the audio path.  The RC-03 does this, but so would an AVR if it truly bypasses the digital and video-switching circuits for a direct route from source to power amps.  An argument can be made that the volume control of most AVR operates in the digital domain so that a portion of the digital circuitry converting analog input to digital and back remains.  That's valid enough to use a purely analog preamp if you like.  Then again, if you can audition it and compare with the direct-stereo mode of your AVR, let your ears be the judge.

Why do you want to get rid of the Quads in HT mode? Unless your AVR's power amps are indeed more powerful, your HT will definitely benefit from more musical amps. But I guess doing so would help reduce the electric bill. Your unloaded AVR amps are still consuming idle current afterall.

av_phile1, I'm not sure if the RXV has a direct by pass  it only says "direct process"  but any adjustment on bass or treble control has no effect on the sound however DSP mode can still be selected.

I'm incline on the RC03 bec. I can utilize the 12v trigger of it to control my RCD02.

Sir Baka ma O.T. incase I go for RXV1500 or 750 can you give your feedback on my query here (one advantage of the receiver I guest is for Multich listening).
 
http://pinoydvd.com/content/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=28&expv=0&?topic=35353.msg449749#msg449749

TIA
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 13, 2005 at 10:38 AM
I am not entirely familiar with the Yamaha models you have in mind, except to say that the 1700 is among the current models of Yamaha and newer than the 750. Both seem to share the same specs and features.  Check out the yamaha site:

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/receivers/RXV_series.htm

I personally would go for the newer model.  So I assume you would have a dedicated HT using this Yamaha and a separate stereo set-up using Rotel player/preamp + Quad, right?
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: KEN on Apr 13, 2005 at 04:48 PM
I am not entirely familiar with the Yamaha models you have in mind, except to say that the 1700 is among the current models of Yamaha and newer than the 750. Both seem to share the same specs and features.  Check out the yamaha site:

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/receivers/RXV_series.htm

I personally would go for the newer model.  So I assume you would have a dedicated HT using this Yamaha and a separate stereo set-up using Rotel player/preamp + Quad, right?


Hi Av_phile1...dont have yet the separated system still deciding either to get the Yammy RX1500 or go for the Rotel RC03...but my concern for now is to improve my 2ch audio listening. For now I'm more incline to get Rotel RC03 since I'm still ok with my 5.1 HT setup only holding me back is that since Rotel RC03 is their entry level preamp, improvement I would get might not be that significant as per money spent compare to getting the RXV1500.

But going to the Rotel RCD02/RC03/Quad route will save me enough extra cash to get the RXV750 in the comming months, upgrading both my HT and Audio setup and at the same time partially separating them on the process.

What do you think...?

TIA
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 13, 2005 at 05:16 PM
Try auditioning the 1500 and see if its stereo direct bypass mode is better than what you have now. The Rc-03 is an entry level preamp but like most Rotels, they're still much better designed and constructed than the preamp sections of many entry level to md=priced receivers and integrateds. Separates are still preferred among audiophiles.   Having said that, it's posible that any improvement would be incremental, not dramatic.   

If you can audition and make comparisons between the RC03 and the 1500's stereo direct mode, that should help you decide.  And if you plan to have a separate stereo and HT rigs as your final set-up, then I guess, getting the RC-03 now would finally settle your desire to simplify the stereo set-up since, you already have an HT rig anyway.   Then save up for the desired HT upgrade later. 

The 1500 does have a lot of bells and whistle like the YPAO room equalization feature you can play with.  SOmetimes those features can be very attractive and would overshadow something as simple as the RC03.  And there's a good chance the 1500 can also play great stereo in bypass mode.  Theory is one thing, and actually hearing it is another.  I really suggest you make a test comparison between the two. It's very difficult to give an advice one way or the other expecially when my gut feel tells me the benefits either way could be very incremental.  Let you ears decide, I always say.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: KEN on Apr 16, 2005 at 04:37 PM
Try auditioning the 1500 and see if its stereo direct bypass mode is better than what you have now. The Rc-03 is an entry level preamp but like most Rotels, they're still much better designed and constructed than the preamp sections of many entry level to md=priced receivers and integrateds. Separates are still preferred among audiophiles.   Having said that, it's posible that any improvement would be incremental, not dramatic.   

If you can audition and make comparisons between the RC03 and the 1500's stereo direct mode, that should help you decide.  And if you plan to have a separate stereo and HT rigs as your final set-up, then I guess, getting the RC-03 now would finally settle your desire to simplify the stereo set-up since, you already have an HT rig anyway.   Then save up for the desired HT upgrade later. 

The 1500 does have a lot of bells and whistle like the YPAO room equalization feature you can play with.  SOmetimes those features can be very attractive and would overshadow something as simple as the RC03.  And there's a good chance the 1500 can also play great stereo in bypass mode.  Theory is one thing, and actually hearing it is another.  I really suggest you make a test comparison between the two. It's very difficult to give an advice one way or the other expecially when my gut feel tells me the benefits either way could be very incremental.  Let you ears decide, I always say.

Thanks av_phile1,

Just went to Rotel showroom here last Thursday but they dont have it in stock  and wont probably have it in the near future since according to them it is a very slow moving item.

It seems the situation is pulling me towards the AV/receiver side...I just emailed Dubai, their ME distributor for a quotation incase shipping cost would not be that much I might get it from them...otherwise I have to postpone my upgrade since I'll be home this comming June baka dyan nlang sa atin might even try tube preamp, I'm more on simplifying/improving my 2 ch audio setup for now.

Thanks again...
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: KEN on Apr 23, 2005 at 03:51 PM
Just want to share this...

Got already the Rotel RC-03, it  improved my 2 ch. audio compare to my previous setup aside from simplifying/separating my HT and Audio setup...though its only their entry level preamp. Only drawback is that I cannot go beyond 9 o'clock on the volume knob - very loud already and I'm worried baka masira yung power amp or the preamp. Now my current normal listening volume is set to 7-8 o'clock only...

Just curious is there a way to reduce the output sensitivity of the RC-03 with out openning it (so as not to void the warranty ) and with minimal effect on the sound quality ? My power amp input sensitivity is only 375mV/8ohms while the RC-03 output sensitivity is 1V/100 ohms...a friend told me that it is the reason for my volume adjustment situation.

TIA
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 25, 2005 at 01:15 PM

Just curious is there a way to reduce the output sensitivity of the RC-03 with out openning it (so as not to void the warranty ) and with minimal effect on the sound quality ? My power amp input sensitivity is only 375mV/8ohms while the RC-03 output sensitivity is 1V/100 ohms...a friend told me that it is the reason for my volume adjustment situation.

TIA

That 375 mV input sensitivity is more common on line level inputs than power-ins.  And 8-ohm impedance??? Are you sure?  Pls recheck.  You may have misquoted the amp's input spec that say 375mV input for full power at 8-ohm speakers.  Power amps often have input impedances greater than 10K ohms up to around 47K at their indicated voltage sensitivities. 

If indeed, your power amp can be driven to full power at 375mV, the RC-03's 1V RMS would be high so you can't bring the volume up too far or you risk overdriving the power amp and you get more THDs.  There are voltage dividing passive circuits you can build to halve the preamp's output but I'd just leave it as is.  The volume control actually acts as a continuous voltage attentuator.  So the 9 o'clock position may be spewing out just around 300mV output as compared to 1V at full volume position.   I shouldn't be bothered if the volume level is already loud at 9 o'clock position.  The wel received Tono tube  preamp already has enough gain to drive a small speaker and is reputed to be quite loud at the same position when mated to any power amp.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: KEN on Apr 25, 2005 at 05:04 PM
That 375 mV input sensitivity is more common on line level inputs than power-ins.  And 8-ohm impedance??? Are you sure?  Pls recheck.  You may have misquoted the amp's input spec that say 375mV input for full power at 8-ohm speakers.  Power amps often have input impedances greater than 10K ohms up to around 47K at their indicated voltage sensitivities. 

If indeed, your power amp can be driven to full power at 375mV, the RC-03's 1V RMS would be high so you can't bring the volume up too far or you risk overdriving the power amp and you get more THDs.  There are voltage dividing passive circuits you can build to halve the preamp's output but I'd just leave it as is.  The volume control actually acts as a continuous voltage attentuator.  So the 9 o'clock position may be spewing out just around 300mV output as compared to 1V at full volume position.   I shouldn't be bothered if the volume level is already loud at 9 o'clock position.  The wel received Tono tube  preamp already has enough gain to drive a small speaker and is reputed to be quite loud at the same position when mated to any power amp.

hi av_phile,
I'm not familiar with these figures but here's the full specs of the power amps:

Power output : 50w into 8ohms, 6A peak
                       70w into 4ohms, 6A peak
Distortion(Dtot):<0.01% at 20Hz any level up to 50w
                        <0.01% at 1kHz any level up to 50w
                        <0.03% at 20kHz any level up to 50w
                        (continous sinewave into 8ohms resistive load)
Output,internal
Impedance and DC offset : 1.5uH in series with 0.05ohms.DC offset 7mV
Frequency Response: -0.25dB at 20Hz and 20kHz. ref 1kHz
                                -1.0dB at 13Hz and 40kHz. ref 1kHz
Power Response:        -0.25dB at 20Hz and 20kHz. ref 1kHz   
Input Sensitivity:        375mV for 50w at 8ohms
Input Impedance:       20 Kohms
Input Overload:           Instantaneous recovery up to +15 dB overload
Crosstalk:                   -100dB at 100Hz
                                  -85dB at 1kHz
                                  -65dB at 10kHz
                                  (input loaded by 1kohms)
Hum and noise             Unweighted -105dB ref. 50w
                                  (15.7kHz measurement bandwidth)
Stability                      unconditionally stable with any load and input

I'm already happy with the big improvement on my 2ch listening.
Kindly post your view regarding my amp/preamp. What would happend incase I go beyong the 9'oclock position would it damage my speaker,p.amplifier or preamp ?

TIA
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 25, 2005 at 06:15 PM
 
Input Sensitivity:        375mV for 50w at 8ohms
Input Impedance:       20 Kohms


Yup, the amp can deliver its rated 50W power into 8 ohms with just 375 mV input.  It's quite sensitive.  But its input impedance is, at 20k, very typical of many power amps.   Excellent specs besides.

Your RC-03 is just fine with it.  Just don't turn the volume too far up.  Your amp can handle an overload of +15db which I think translates to about 5 times the 375mV, again, typical of many amps.

Just a thought.  WIth an input sensitivity like that, I wouldn't need a preamp and just connect a CD player's output directly to the power amp, provided the player has output level control.  Most CD players already have 1V - 3V output.    But then you lose out on input selection facility.  Many purist audiophiles do this, the lesser electronics on the audio path, the better.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: KEN on Apr 25, 2005 at 06:27 PM
Yup, the amp can deliver its rated 50W power into 8 ohms with just 375 mV input.  It's quite sensitive.  But its input impedance is, at 20k, very typical of many power amps.   Excellent specs besides.

Your RC-03 is just fine with it.  Just don't turn the volume too far up.  Your amp can handle an overload of +15db which I think translates to about 5 times the 375mV, again, typical of many amps.

Thanks av_phile1...max for me is only 7-8'oclock beyond that point  is already too loud for me.

Just a thought.  WIth an input sensitivity like that, I wouldn't need a preamp and just connect a CD player's output directly to the power amp, provided the player has output level control.  Most CD players already have 1V - 3V output.    But then you lose out on input selection facility.  Many purist audiophiles do this, the lesser electronics on the audio path, the better.

CDP has no volume control was thinking before of passive preamp but these are very rare and if you find one its pricey. CDP is RCD02 one factor I consider in getting the RC03.
 
thanks again...
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: Narayan on Apr 27, 2005 at 03:05 PM
CDP has no volume control was thinking before of passive preamp but these are very rare and if you find one its pricey. CDP is RCD02 one factor I consider in getting the RC03.
 

hi ken,

if you are interested in passive preamps, you may want to check out the ones built by hyperaudio and/or amx. have personally tried one by hyperaudio and i can recommend it bro. hth
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: KEN on Apr 27, 2005 at 03:16 PM
hi ken,

if you are interested in passive preamps, you may want to check out the ones built by hyperaudio and/or amx. have personally tried one by hyperaudio and i can recommend it bro. hth

hi narayan,

thanks for the info., got already the RC03, anyhow I'll be on my annual vacation this comming June I can try to check hyperaudio's place. Also I read from somewhere on the net that the Quad 306's are good on passive preamp but  unfortunately only Rotel and Onkyo has preamp here in Jeddah.

thanks...



thanks...
Title: rotel Ra02 integrated amp.
Post by: jakeadriano on Aug 02, 2005 at 09:46 PM
hi. what is the best speaker to be paired w/RA02? ??? ??? ???thnx
Title: Re: rotel Ra02 integrated amp.
Post by: synchro_01 on Aug 02, 2005 at 10:12 PM
depends on the ff parameters:

1. room size
2. budget
3. type of music

If I were you I would'nt match the RA-02 with speakers that are hard to drive
(4 ohm 88db and below sensitivity type of speakers) because the RA-02's 40 watts can only go so far..it would simply just run out of steam long before it can make a 4 ohm woofer move. cranking it up even further will result into amp clipping and that will ultimately spell doom for the speakers.

Try to audition 8 ohm/88db and up speakers...there are lots of good sounding speakers with those kind of specs. that should significantly narrow down your shortlist.  Happy hunting  :)
Title: Re: rotel Ra02 integrated amp.
Post by: bumblebee on Aug 03, 2005 at 07:42 AM
Having 8 ohm impedance doesn't always mean the speakers are easy to drive. Impedance varies w/ frequency and may dip wildly. An impedance curve is a better indicator, but this is not provided in the specs.

So, listen, listen and listen. When you've narrowed down your choices and can't decide because you like them all, you can look at the specs.
Title: Re: rotel Ra02 integrated amp.
Post by: av_phile1 on Aug 03, 2005 at 10:39 AM
The B&W speaker brand uses Rotel as its official amp for voicing and testing its speakers.  So I guess if you want the best pairing with your Rotel,  a B&W should be a no brainer.  Do try their 300 series bookshelf speakers for starters.  Having said that, I'm pretty sure most mid-powered commercial speakers out there will do.  Just audition them making sure the impedances match.  Though as a high current amp, the RA-02 can drive 4-ohm speakers as well. 
Title: Re: rotel Ra02 integrated amp.
Post by: jakeadriano on Aug 03, 2005 at 09:47 PM
mrami slamat mga bro. ; :)
Title: Re: rotel Ra02 integrated amp.
Post by: boomjam on Aug 04, 2005 at 07:49 AM
Try Kef Q-series.  The Uni-Q design has great imaging and mids that are to die for.  I've heard the Q1s on rotel and they bring out the "live" feeling of music.  Also, even if your listening position is not dead center, detail and imaging are still very good.
Title: Re: rotel Ra02 integrated amp.
Post by: 24bit on Aug 22, 2005 at 07:07 PM
The B&W speaker brand uses Rotel as its official amp for voicing and testing its speakers.  So I guess if you want the best pairing with your Rotel,  a B&W should be a no brainer.  Do try their 300 series bookshelf speakers for starters.  Having said that, I'm pretty sure most mid-powered commercial speakers out there will do.  Just audition them making sure the impedances match.  Though as a high current amp, the RA-02 can drive 4-ohm speakers as well. 

av_phile 1 is correct, I'm using B&W 602 with my RA-02 and it's a very good match.
Title: Re: rotel Ra02 integrated amp.
Post by: docsialu on Sep 11, 2005 at 02:10 PM
good day, how  bout monitor audio b2, would it be a good match for the ra02?
Title: Re: rotel Ra02 integrated amp.
Post by: bumblebee on Sep 11, 2005 at 03:52 PM
good day, how  bout monitor audio b2, would it be a good match for the ra02?

They say the B2 and Rotel are on the "bright" side. The result may be too "bright". Have a listen to the combo as YMMV.
Title: Re: rotel Ra02 integrated amp.
Post by: av_phile1 on Sep 12, 2005 at 04:49 PM
Could be bright to some, just right for you.  Let your ears have the final say.  Having said that, if indeed they are a bright combination,  there are some inexpensive or easy ways to tame bright speakers.  But there's really not much tweaking you can do for dull speakers, except possibly to change tweeters or crossovers  ;D  But ofcourse,  it's always best to get the right stuff for your ears at the very start.  Happy auditioning.  ;D
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: classicman on Jan 04, 2006 at 10:22 PM
(http://europe.rotel.com/products/images/ra-03.jpg)

Rotel RA-03 - does anyone know the prevailing price for this amp., at saan A/V shop po ang pinakamura, TIA 8)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: nephilim on Jan 04, 2006 at 10:24 PM
Try out Sound Dimension at Park Square 1 in Makati 
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: classicman on Jan 04, 2006 at 10:43 PM
Try out Sound Dimension at Park Square 1 in Makati 


thanks a lot, sir....any other stores carrying this brand?
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: whipsaw on Jan 18, 2006 at 10:52 AM
i understand sights and sounds can sell you that but it would be on a per order basis
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 18, 2006 at 10:53 AM
According to the head honcho at Sound Dimension, they're the authorized distributor of Rotel products here.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: gaol on Jan 18, 2006 at 11:25 AM
I think F.M. Apolinario (whose brother is Gerry of Gerry's Grill) distributes Rotel and Velodyne and a brand of speakers (which I forget). Found this out when I bought my Rotel CDP years back from Upscale Audio and had it repaired by them (Apolinario) directly last year.
Title: Rotel RA-03 or RC-03 and RB-03 Combo?
Post by: moks on Jan 24, 2006 at 03:53 PM
Guys,

I just need your comment, i'm planning to purchase an amp to drive a pair of monitor audio rs1's. i'm contemplating on a cost effective approach measure. option 1 is the rotel ra-03, option 2 is rotel rc-03 preamp and rotel rb-03 power amp. the rotel rb-03 power amp is rated at 70w per channel also, same as that of the ra-03 integrated amp. which would i choose?
Title: Re: Rotel RA-03 or RC-03 and RB-03 Combo?
Post by: Narayan on Jan 24, 2006 at 08:30 PM
Guys,

I just need your comment, i'm planning to purchase an amp to drive a pair of monitor audio rs1's. i'm contemplating on a cost effective approach measure. option 1 is the rotel ra-03, option 2 is rotel rc-03 preamp and rotel rb-03 power amp. the rotel rb-03 power amp is rated at 70w per channel also, same as that of the ra-03 integrated amp. which would i choose?

if budget is not a constraint, i will go for separates due to its flexibility for future upgrades :)
Title: Re: Rotel RA-03 or RC-03 and RB-03 Combo?
Post by: classicman on Jan 24, 2006 at 11:07 PM
am also interested in this topic :D......sir moks, what are the prevailing prices for RC-03 & RB-03, thanks in advance 8)
Title: Re: Rotel RA-03 or RC-03 and RB-03 Combo?
Post by: moks on Jan 25, 2006 at 12:59 PM
sa pagkaalam ko the rc-03's srp is 21,000 and the rb-03's srp is also 21,000. I'm just not sure kung pareho silang tumunog what i mean is yung sound characteristics. usually kasi pag compare mo parehong brand and of the same power halos i'm assuming supposedly pareho dapat. though, the damping factor of the rb-03 power amp is greater than the damping factor of the ra-03. can somebody enlighten me about damping factor? malaking factor ba yung damping factor sa isang equipment?
Title: Re: Rotel RA-03 or RC-03 and RB-03 Combo?
Post by: bumblebee on Jan 25, 2006 at 01:10 PM
The higher damping factor (lower output impedance), supposedly, mas ok kc mas maraming speaker options. There are also audible differences (nabasa ko lang din, audioholics) but these differences start to be inaudible beyond 50 (damping factor).

How about the RA-1062? Costs less than the pre-power combo.
Title: Re: Rotel RA-03 or RC-03 and RB-03 Combo?
Post by: dyna52 on Jan 25, 2006 at 06:45 PM
Moks,

Check mo yung Rotel RA 03 kung me jumper wire yung pre amp to amp section nya.  You can verify that with  Apolinario & Associates local dealer of Rotel here in R.P. Call 371-6809 and look for Rudy Valente. Kung merong jumper, sa RA 03 ka na lang kasi mas best buy yun. In the future, mag hybrid ka na lang by using Tube pre amp and your Rotel RA03 amp section.
Title: Re: Rotel RA-03 or RC-03 and RB-03 Combo?
Post by: KEN on Jan 25, 2006 at 11:32 PM
hi,

paki post naman price for RB03, and RA 1062


TIA
Title: Re: Rotel RA-03 or RC-03 and RB-03 Combo?
Post by: bumblebee on Jan 26, 2006 at 08:59 AM
Unlike NADs, Rotel integrateds don't have Main-In's.
Title: Re: Rotel RA-03 or RC-03 and RB-03 Combo?
Post by: moks on Jan 26, 2006 at 01:12 PM
according to the stereophile 2006 buyers guide the rotel ra-1062 integrated amplifier is classified as a class b amp while the ra-03 integrated amp is classified as a class ab amp. what is the difference between a class b amp and a class ab?
Title: Re: Rotel RA-03 or RC-03 and RB-03 Combo?
Post by: bumblebee on Jan 26, 2006 at 01:28 PM
according to the stereophile 2006 buyers guide the rotel ra-1062 integrated amplifier is classified as a class b amp while the ra-03 integrated amp is classified as a class ab amp. what is the difference between a class b amp and a class ab?

http://sound.westhost.com/class-a.htm
Title: Re: Rotel RA-03 or RC-03 and RB-03 Combo?
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 26, 2006 at 02:12 PM
according to the stereophile 2006 buyers guide the rotel ra-1062 integrated amplifier is classified as a class b amp while the ra-03 integrated amp is classified as a class ab amp. what is the difference between a class b amp and a class ab?

That's strange,  As far as I know there are no class B amp among hi-fidelity gears, precisely because of their inherent crossover distortion.  It's always either class A or class AB.  With subwoofers in the class D topography. 
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: MAtZTER on Feb 06, 2006 at 02:45 PM
I am trying to acquire a Rotel rb980B (not BX) from a friend. I cant seem to find pictures or data of this older model.

Is it a 5 channel x 100w amp or an integrated amp?

Is this model a good buy? How old is this model?
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: ronjet on Feb 11, 2006 at 03:37 PM
pa-update po... if more into HT, ano po maganda na power amp? (sorry, di po ako familiar sa power/integrated amp po) don't know pa po kung ano talaga kailangan sa dalawa and kung ano differences. thanks in advance
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: nephilim on Feb 12, 2006 at 01:32 PM
For pure HT, best to just get a decent A/V receiver.  All you'll need are the speakers and the dvd player and you're ready to go. 
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: MAtZTER on Feb 13, 2006 at 11:04 AM
I am trying to acquire a Rotel rb980B (not BX) from a friend. I cant seem to find pictures or data of this older model.


I got the amp already, I posted the wrong model. Its a RB985 5x100w THX amp. Its very powerful and it works great.

In the future I will just get mid-level receivers with pre outs as upgrades and retain this amp.

Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: ATJr. on Feb 13, 2006 at 02:11 PM
Quote
Input Sensitivity:        375mV for 50w at 8ohms

this means that your amp has a closed loop gain of x 53 or 34db, wonder how it sounds at a lower gain...say x25.
Title: Rotel rb-1080 stereo amp
Post by: juvinyl on Feb 14, 2006 at 08:49 PM
Hey guys,

Does anyone here using rotel rb-1080 with b&w speakers?  How's does it sound?  Because, at present i'm using ra-03 with b&w 705 and it seems that my 705 has not reach its maximum potential.  I know this speaker is power hungry and I believe going for a higher wattage amp, like the 1080 (200 wpc) will further improve the sound in all respects. 

I would appreciate reviews for those who have used or have auditioned this amp.  Your opinions will surely help me firm my plan in going to a higher setup, e.g., use my ra-03 as preamp and rb-1080 for the separate amp.  This is also in preparation to upgrading my 705 to 800 series speakers.  Maybe not in the near future, but let's say in 1-2 years. :-\

Thanks.

Juvinyl

PS.  Sorry if there are previous topics similar to this that I've missed. 
Title: Re: Rotel rb-1080 stereo amp
Post by: classicman on Feb 14, 2006 at 09:01 PM
hmmnnnn.......bai juvinyl, i can definitely smell an upgrade, hehehe ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: ZEPHYR on Feb 14, 2006 at 11:37 PM
I got the amp already, I posted the wrong model. Its a RB985 5x100w THX amp. Its very powerful and it works great.

In the future I will just get mid-level receivers with pre outs as upgrades and retain this amp.



Bro ito ba iyan

(http://www.homecinemachoice.com/reviews/hccreviews/PowerAmps/Rotel/RotelRB985.jpg)

o ito

(http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/ro/rotel-rb985.jpg)

I have the RB-985 power amp (first picture above) and I agree that at 100wpc (5 channels) this is very powerful. This is currently connected to a Denon AVD-2000 digital processor - DTS decoding comes from my Philips 5500S DVD players thru the Denon 5.1 analog input.

- The RB-985s high headroom and state of the art signal-to-noise measurements ensure unsullied reproduction of the most dynamic as well as the most delicate sonic nuances
- Complete with gold plated RCA and DB-25 input connectors, the RB-985 is ideally suited for either home theatre applications or bi-amped systems optimised for music reproduction

Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: ricky on Feb 15, 2006 at 12:52 AM
Zephyr yeah first picture is the rb985 and the second one is  the later generation which is rb 985mkII,yung may heat sink na. :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: MAtZTER on Feb 15, 2006 at 10:55 AM
Bro ito ba iyan

(http://www.homecinemachoice.com/reviews/hccreviews/PowerAmps/Rotel/RotelRB985.jpg)
- The RB-985s high headroom and state of the art signal-to-noise measurements ensure unsullied reproduction of the most dynamic as well as the most delicate sonic nuances
- Complete with gold plated RCA and DB-25 input connectors, the RB-985 is ideally suited for either home theatre applications or bi-amped systems optimised for music reproduction

Thanks for the info! I have been looking for any write ups on this.

Yep, I am using the one in the first picture.  And its a great amp.

I am using it for bi-amping and the sound is just awesome in both music and HT. I am only using 3 channels for now though.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: mYKi on Feb 15, 2006 at 04:11 PM
Guys, I just want to share an experience...

I wanted to sell my RMB-1075 because I wasn't watching DVDs or listening to CDs much. I'm using a Marantz SR-5500 as a pre-processor so I thought I can do without the Rotel amp.

When I had a buyer already, I removed the amp to pack it. I then hooked up the speakers to the receiver. When I listened to a CD, I wasn't satisfied with the sound anymore. It really lacked much. I then realized I can't live without the amp so I had to pull-out the sale.

Anyway, since I've took out everything already from the shelf, I decided to vacuum my receiver. I then opened my Marantz SR-5500 receiver and carefully vacuumed the insides. I then saw the amplifier section and it was a separate vertical motherboard with huge heatsinks. Hmmmmm.... since I'm going to use the SR-5500 as a pre-processor only, maybe I can disconnect the amp section. This will save electricity, reduce interference, and eliminate the heat coming from the built-in amps.

So i did!!! I disconnected the power cables leading to the amp section. I then put back the cover, connected everything, and viola! I now have a pre-processor! The SR-5500 is now cool to the touch. Hehehehe.

Don't try this at home.  ;D  I guess I just remembered some things from my Electronics class in High School where we assembled our own amps.

Myki

Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: iceman90a on Feb 15, 2006 at 09:56 PM
sayang - inaabangan ko pa naman sana yung AP interconnects mo ;D
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: ZEPHYR on Feb 16, 2006 at 11:42 PM
Thanks for the info! I have been looking for any write ups on this.

Yep, I am using the one in the first picture.  And its a great amp.

I am using it for bi-amping and the sound is just awesome in both music and HT. I am only using 3 channels for now though.

Bro have you read this review on the RB985

http://www.homecinemachoice.com/reviews/hccreviews/PowerAmps/Rotel/RotelRB985.php?action=setwidth&NewSiteWidth=

Thanks
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: MAtZTER on Feb 17, 2006 at 10:51 AM
Thanks for the link  :)

Yep, the binding posts are indeed the only thing I would complain about.

But when its powering my floorstanding speakers, all I can say is "WOW"  :o
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: ZEPHYR on Feb 18, 2006 at 10:37 AM
Thanks for the link  :)

Yep, the binding posts are indeed the only thing I would complain about.

But when its powering my floorstanding speakers, all I can say is "WOW"  :o

Well mine's already been replaced when I bought it. The original owner had it changed already due the said review and now Im enjoying it as my HT set-up geared for any (I hope ;D) future upgrade in the HT systems  :D :D :D

 
Title: Re: Rotel rb-1080 stereo amp
Post by: juvinyl on Feb 23, 2006 at 09:37 PM
Mukha yatang I won't be able to get opinions in this thread.  Meaning to say, no user or interested of rb-1080? 
Title: Re: Rotel rb-1080 stereo amp
Post by: Narayan on Feb 23, 2006 at 10:11 PM
hi juvinyl,

am using a rotel rb-1080 power amp driving a pair of mordaunt short ms 914s with an onkyo integra as pre-amp. if you want to find out how the 1080 will sound with your B & W speakers, you may come over to my place with your gears :)

pm me if interested so i can provide my home address details
Title: Re: Rotel rb-1080 stereo amp
Post by: juvinyl on Feb 24, 2006 at 04:09 PM
Thanks for your response Narayan.  I think I won't be able to  come b/c...I'm from Cebu ;D ;D.  Anayway, ask lang ako kung mainitinan ba talaga ang amp na to?  I've heard reviews from other forums that says it is.
Title: Re: Rotel rb-1080 stereo amp
Post by: Narayan on Feb 24, 2006 at 05:44 PM
Thanks for your response Narayan.  I think I won't be able to  come b/c...I'm from Cebu ;D ;D.  Anayway, ask lang ako kung mainitinan ba talaga ang amp na to?  I've heard reviews from other forums that says it is.

if what you mean is the unit easily getting warm during use, hindi naman. just normal (not hot) for a solid state amp. this amp btw is also thx ultra certified na
Title: Re: Rotel rb-1080 stereo amp
Post by: ricky on Feb 24, 2006 at 05:57 PM
pasali din,before i bought my rotel 985 (5x100) ang review din ng marami ay nag iinit sya and may warning pa sa site ako nabasa na mabilis sya uminit so they suggest not to put in a tight space,but i have tried using mine for around 8hrs straight on weekends and it did not even became hot to the touch,its just warm enough but never hot . ;)and i watch in high volume levels pa ;D hope this helps you.
Title: Re: Rotel rb-1080 stereo amp
Post by: juvinyl on Feb 24, 2006 at 07:17 PM
Thanks for your post.  Seguro, what the guy claims that it was hot, might be true and not normal for this amp.   Maybe what he got is a factory defect and this happens even in a tight quality control imposed by manufacturers.

BTw, I am now in the selection between rb-1070 and 1080 and I am evaluating the possibility of speaker upgrade in the future.  I'm looking at b&w 803s or 804s.  which is better between the 2 amps that  can give the best wattage per pesos?
Title: Re: Rotel rb-1080 stereo amp
Post by: ricky on Feb 24, 2006 at 09:04 PM
Hi again juv, rb1070 is just 2x130w but bridgeable to 360w mono(for further future upgrades of mono-mono ;D) while rb1080 is already 2x200w(imho is really enough to power a decent floorstanders of any brand and upgrade proof na din naman ).But Its really up to you how far you're willing to go and spend ;) 1080 would be expensive compared to 1070 but its just a one time purchase lang naman unlike if you will buy the 1070 now and later on realize that you're not yet satisfied with the power then you need to buy another unit and end up with 2x360w  ;D ;D ;D

Another option you can consider is to just get the rmb 1075(5x120w) or rmb 1095(5x200w) and use the 4channel to bi-amped your front speakers ;D
Title: Re: Rotel rb-1080 stereo amp
Post by: juvinyl on Feb 25, 2006 at 07:28 PM
Thanks Ricky for your nice presentation of options and it really widens my idea on how my future setup would be.   What is good for separates like this is their flexibility of setups. 


Title: Re: Rotel rb-1080 stereo amp
Post by: ricky on Feb 26, 2006 at 12:42 AM
Glad to be of help bro, and another thing nice about separates is that you can really plan your purchases esp with rotels na halos ang tagal bago new models are introduced ;D It really is a wise investment lalo na kung masaya ka sa basic functions lang.Who needs a lot of dsp choices when the best is the direct mode ;)
Title: Re: Rotel rb-1080 stereo amp
Post by: synchro_01 on Feb 26, 2006 at 03:52 AM
juvinyl

presently have the RA-1070 mated with a B&W 805 Nautilus speakers (on top orig Nautilus stands).  its only 100watts x 2 (conservatively rated) but it can make the 805's really sing out loud.  I do agree that the marriage between Rotel electronics and B&W speakers is one combo that is hard to beat.  Midrange quality is top notch and so realistic. 

BTW, I have a spare Classe CA70 power amplifier that I am not using. Havent tried it yet with the Nautilus but it used to power a set of Dynaudio A50's to very respectable SPL's....sound quality is very neutral.  send me a PM if interested.

Title: Re: Rotel rb-1080 stereo amp
Post by: ricky on Feb 26, 2006 at 12:16 PM
juvinyl

presently have the RA-1070 mated with a B&W 805 Nautilus speakers (on top orig Nautilus stands).  its only 100watts x 2 (conservatively rated) but it can make the 805's really sing out loud.  I do agree that the marriage between Rotel electronics and B&W speakers is one combo that is hard to beat.  Midrange quality is top notch and so realistic. 

BTW, I have a spare Classe CA70 power amplifier that I am not using. Havent tried it yet with the Nautilus but it used to power a set of Dynaudio A50's to very respectable SPL's....sound quality is very neutral.  send me a PM if interested.



Wow synchro big time combo you have there ;) and you have a spare classe amp pa ;D can you compare performance between classe and rotel(even if they have diff wattage) since these 2 are the ones really popular in their respective brackets. congrats bro :)
Title: Re: Rotel rb-1080 stereo amp
Post by: synchro_01 on Feb 27, 2006 at 09:57 AM
ricky

as I have said in my earlier post, I havent tried to A-B both amps to the Nautilus 805's so I dont have any idea on how the Classe will perform when mated to the 805's. Maybe when I have time to spare I might try it out and see. I do however know its performance when mated to Dynaudio speakers.  The CA-70 that im contemplating on selling sounds really great with the Audience 50' s that I have. Since the Dynes really thrive when paired with a muscular amp, the 70 watt per channel of the CA-70 didnt have any problems whatsoever driving the speakers because its easily capable of doubling its load when the impedance drops so in effect it pumped out 140 watts/channel to the small Audience 50 bookshelves. 
Title: Re: Rotel rb-1080 stereo amp
Post by: iceman90a on Feb 27, 2006 at 11:02 AM
ricky

as I have said in my earlier post, I havent tried to A-B both amps to the Nautilus 805's so I dont have any idea on how the Classe will perform when mated to the 805's. Maybe when I have time to spare I might try it out and see. I do however know its performance when mated to Dynaudio speakers. The CA-70 that im contemplating on selling sounds really great with the Audience 50' s that I have. Since the Dynes really thrive when paired with a muscular amp, the 70 watt per channel of the CA-70 didnt have any problems whatsoever driving the speakers because its easily capable of doubling its load when the impedance drops so in effect it pumped out 140 watts/channel to the small Audience 50 bookshelves.

Pre - what replaced the CA-70? The Classe monoblocks?
Title: Re: Rotel rb-1080 stereo amp
Post by: synchro_01 on Feb 27, 2006 at 11:36 AM
I am using a CA-100 to drive the 1.8MKII's. hindi kasi naka balanced XLR option yung CA-70 thats why I decided to upgrade. If I do sell the CA-70 then i'll look for another CA-100 para monoblock pair (mono 400W per at 8 ohms and 800W per at 4 ohms  :o)
Title: Re: Rotel rb-1080 stereo amp
Post by: ronjet on Feb 27, 2006 at 12:15 PM
WOW sir synchro! astig po ng combo niyo ngayon, last time na narinig ko po yan e talagang ang ganda na po nung dyn's.. ;) 8)  pinarinig niyo sa akin kung gaano kaganda tumunog. ang laki pa po ng space niyo kung san nakalagay yung dati niyong setup. 8) galing sir! more power! ;)
Title: Re: Rotel rb-1080 stereo amp
Post by: synchro_01 on Feb 28, 2006 at 02:07 PM
thanks ronjet. BTW, ok na yung HT set up mo?
Title: Re: Rotel rb-1080 stereo amp
Post by: brandon on Mar 01, 2006 at 12:04 PM
Hey guys,

Does anyone here using rotel rb-1080 with b&w speakers?  How's does it sound?  Because, at present i'm using ra-03 with b&w 705 and it seems that my 705 has not reach its maximum potential. 
Juvinyl


Bai,

Upgrading your Rotel amp to another Rotel amp will not bring significant audible improvement
in the sound quality of your bookshelf 705's.
 
Try experimenting with the volume balance of your subwoofer vis-a-vis your main speaker. 
If you don't have a subwoofer, the next significant upgrade would be to add a good quality
subwoofer to your system (Velodyne CHT 12R or bigger).

Try experimenting with the treble and bass tone controls.  Your 705 bookshelfs may benefit from it.

Also try experimenting with your subwoofer crossover and your amp crossover. 
Higher amp crossover settings (100 Hz or >) usually improve midrange clarity/purity. 

Also try experimenting with the 'toe in' angle of your speakers. You'll be amazed that
a slight change in toe in angle of your speakers can dramatically change the size and depth
of the soundstage as well as the speakers' tonal tendencies.  (Bright speakers can be made
to sound less bright or more bright by small changes in the toe in angle.)
 
Try to experiment also with your speaker and subwoofer placement and orientation vis-a-vis
your primary listening position.  Distance between the left and right speakers, distance of
both speakers from the back wall and the side wall, can also dramatically change the overall
soundstage and tonal character of the speakers.  Sub placement and orientation angle
is crucial for subwoofer integration with your speakers.

Also try room/acoustic treatments if you haven't done so (especially if your room is overly
'live' or overly 'damped' which are both not good for music listening).

You will notice that most of these things don't cost a cent but I assure you
they can DRAMATICALLY improve the sound produced from your speakers or ANY SPEAKERS 
for that matter.  Even the most modest 'entry-level' speakers can sound astounding and
'eeriely live' when properly set up and optimally configured in a good listening room. 

Given that you have already 'maximized' the best performance from your current speakers
and equipment through optimum set up and configuration, the next most logical step would
be to upgrade your speakers (not your amp) to the 800 series (the floorstanding models).

Title: Re: Rotel rb-1080 stereo amp
Post by: ronjet on Mar 01, 2006 at 12:18 PM
yup! sir synchro ;)... and thanks for your big help! 8) naghanap ako dati nung sub na sinabi mo sa akin, yung sub mo dati kaya lang wala. ;D

now you have naman rotel! 8) ganda talaga rotel+b&W... parang iba talaga tunog kahit siguro 600 series lang.

malaki ba difference ng 1070 sa 1080 rotel?
Title: Re: Rotel rb-1080 stereo amp
Post by: synchro_01 on Mar 01, 2006 at 12:38 PM
yup! sir synchro ;)... and thanks for your big help! 8) naghanap ako dati nung sub na sinabi mo sa akin, yung sub mo dati kaya lang wala. ;D

now you have naman rotel! 8) ganda talaga rotel+b&W... parang iba talaga tunog kahit siguro 600 series lang.

malaki ba difference ng 1070 sa 1080 rotel?

bro yung sa akin RA-1070 which is an Integrated Amp. I dont know the price of the 1080 and I have no idea on its performance.
Title: Re: Rotel rb-1080 stereo amp
Post by: juvinyl on Mar 04, 2006 at 09:49 PM
Bai,

Upgrading your Rotel amp to another Rotel amp will not bring significant audible improvement
in the sound quality of your bookshelf 705's.
 
Try experimenting with the volume balance of your subwoofer vis-a-vis your main speaker. 
If you don't have a subwoofer, the next significant upgrade would be to add a good quality
subwoofer to your system (Velodyne CHT 12R or bigger).

Try experimenting with the treble and bass tone controls.  Your 705 bookshelfs may benefit from it.

Also try experimenting with your subwoofer crossover and your amp crossover. 
Higher amp crossover settings (100 Hz or >) usually improve midrange clarity/purity. 

Also try experimenting with the 'toe in' angle of your speakers. You'll be amazed that
a slight change in toe in angle of your speakers can dramatically change the size and depth
of the soundstage as well as the speakers' tonal tendencies.  (Bright speakers can be made
to sound less bright or more bright by small changes in the toe in angle.)
 
Try to experiment also with your speaker and subwoofer placement and orientation vis-a-vis
your primary listening position.  Distance between the left and right speakers, distance of
both speakers from the back wall and the side wall, can also dramatically change the overall
soundstage and tonal character of the speakers.  Sub placement and orientation angle
is crucial for subwoofer integration with your speakers.

Also try room/acoustic treatments if you haven't done so (especially if your room is overly
'live' or overly 'damped' which are both not good for music listening).

You will notice that most of these things don't cost a cent but I assure you
they can DRAMATICALLY improve the sound produced from your speakers or ANY SPEAKERS 
for that matter.  Even the most modest 'entry-level' speakers can sound astounding and
'eeriely live' when properly set up and optimally configured in a good listening room. 

Given that you have already 'maximized' the best performance from your current speakers
and equipment through optimum set up and configuration, the next most logical step would
be to upgrade your speakers (not your amp) to the 800 series (the floorstanding models).



Thanks for your post Brandon, but I'm sorry, I'm not inclined in listening to music in 5.1 channel mode.  In fact, I only use bookshelf speakers in my music room.  No offense, but I don't like the sound of the sub while listening to music.  For me, bookshelves are the best, because you will easily achieve "pinpoint" imaging and clarity than floorstanders.  Likewise, I don't adjust bass controls or treble control.  I used "flat" bass and treble in my rotel ra-03.   
Title: Re: Rotel rb-1080 stereo amp
Post by: ricky on Mar 04, 2006 at 11:28 PM
Thanks for your post Brandon, but I'm sorry, I'm not inclined in listening to music in 5.1 channel mode.  In fact, I only use bookshelf speakers in my music room.  No offense, but I don't like the sound of the sub while listening to music.  For me, bookshelves are the best, because you will easily achieve "pinpoint" imaging and clarity than floorstanders.  Likewise, I don't adjust bass controls or treble control.  I used "flat" bass and treble in my rotel ra-03.   

yeah juvinyl,this is the right way to listen to musics ;) and also cht-12r is not a good sub for audio listening :)
Title: Re: Rotel rb-1080 stereo amp
Post by: juvinyl on Mar 05, 2006 at 12:06 AM
Thanks Ricky ;D ;D ;D.  Now I know that I have gained the proper listening habit. 

Anyway, in addition to my previous post, your amp is as important as the other component in the playback chain.  Don't just disregard the importance of the amp.  This is the heart of the system particularly the receiver.  The more power the amp in your receiver is, the more "punch" or "slam" it gives.  The more power it has, the bigger the transformer and the capacitors in restoring transient voltage needed at the height of the battle or gunshot.  Normally, this can be found in expensive amps.


For me I don't use receiver in music system.  Separates is the best way to go, e.g., source, pre-amp and the amp.   Sabi pa nga ng karamihan, in music, 2-channel rules. ;) ;D ;D ;D

I don't consider myself as a real audiophile, but in this hobby, I learned many things.  For me, there are 2 types of music lovers, an audiophile and a music enthusiast (pls correct me if I'm wrong) ;D.  An audiophile can be a music enthusiasts, while a music enthusiasts can not always be an audiophile.  An audiophile listens to music at moderate volume, prefers bookshelf than floorstanders, listen in 2-channel or stereo or monoaural.  While some music enthusiats listens at higher volume, 5 or more channels, big floorstanders speakers.

Well, guys, no offense, whatever you are in, what is important is you enjoy your music. ;D

Title: Re: Rotel rb-1080 stereo amp
Post by: brandon on Mar 23, 2006 at 03:05 PM
Thanks for your post Brandon, but I'm sorry, I'm not inclined in listening to music in 5.1 channel mode.  In fact, I only use bookshelf speakers in my music room.  No offense, but I don't like the sound of the sub while listening to music.  For me, bookshelves are the best, because you will easily achieve "pinpoint" imaging and clarity than floorstanders.  Likewise, I don't adjust bass controls or treble control.  I used "flat" bass and treble in my rotel ra-03.   

You will miss a lot of 'depth' information and sense of 'spaciousness' if you don't use a sub.
A sub that blends well with main speakers especially small/bookshelf ones gives a greater
sense of 'realism' to the recording.  Music from small bookshelf speakers will sound a lot more
'holographic' (not 'flat') if you have correctly and seamlessly integrated a good sub.

Title: Re: Rotel rb-1080 stereo amp
Post by: brandon on Mar 23, 2006 at 03:19 PM
yeah juvinyl,this is the right way to listen to musics ;) and also cht-12r is not a good sub for audio listening :)

Ricky,

There is no right way or wrong way to listen to music.
It all boils down to one's personal preference.  We all have
different ears and we all perceive sound differently.

If a person really hears better music reproduction by using
tone controls vs. not using them, then why not, di ba?
Title: Re: Rotel rb-1080 stereo amp
Post by: brandon on Mar 23, 2006 at 03:35 PM
Thanks Ricky ;D ;D ;D.  Now I know that I have gained the proper listening habit. 

Anyway, in addition to my previous post, your amp is as important as the other component in the playback chain.  Don't just disregard the importance of the amp.  This is the heart of the system particularly the receiver.  The more power the amp in your receiver is, the more "punch" or "slam" it gives.  The more power it has, the bigger the transformer and the capacitors in restoring transient voltage needed at the height of the battle or gunshot.  Normally, this can be found in expensive amps.


For me I don't use receiver in music system.  Separates is the best way to go, e.g., source, pre-amp and the amp.   Sabi pa nga ng karamihan, in music, 2-channel rules. ;) ;D ;D ;D

I don't consider myself as a real audiophile, but in this hobby, I learned many things.  For me, there are 2 types of music lovers, an audiophile and a music enthusiast (pls correct me if I'm wrong) ;D.  An audiophile can be a music enthusiasts, while a music enthusiasts can not always be an audiophile.  An audiophile listens to music at moderate volume, prefers bookshelf than floorstanders, listen in 2-channel or stereo or monoaural.  While some music enthusiats listens at higher volume, 5 or more channels, big floorstanders speakers.

Well, guys, no offense, whatever you are in, what is important is you enjoy your music. ;D



Bai juvinyl,

I disagree with many of the things you mention here but I do respect your opinion.
How about an audition at your place?  By the way, I sent you a personal message yesterday.

Regarding what makes one an 'audiophile' or not is purely up to the person.  There is
no 'certification' body or 'formal schooling' that is required for one to be labeled
an 'audiophile'.  If you think you are an audiophile, then you are one.  If not, then your are not. 
It's that simple.  It has nothing to do with the cost or choice of your equipment or playback
method, and has nothing to do with your personal beliefs in audio which greatly vary from
person to person.  An audiophile is simply a label you confer upon yourself and not a label
somebody imposes upon you.
Title: Re: Rotel rb-1080 stereo amp
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 23, 2006 at 04:03 PM
Ricky,

There is no right way or wrong way to listen to music.
It all boils down to one's personal preference.  We all have
different ears and we all perceive sound differently.

If a person really hears better music reproduction by using
tone controls vs. not using them, then why not, di ba?

From a certain perspective, you're right.  While there are technical aspects in this hobby that can determine what's right or wrong under specific set-ups, personal preferrences supercede technical considerations.  For instance, some people like to listen to dipole speakers placed close to walls, when what is technically right is, they should be positioned farther from walls.  

Personally, I'm inclined to think there's always a right way and a wrong way to doing things.  And that includes listening to music.  The right or the wrong really depends on how you expect home reproducton to happen.  If you meet your expectations, then that's the right way.  If not, then it's wrong.  

And there's also personal education, social position and income level to consider.  It's definitely wrong to have a set of brand new B&W speakers on a Musical Fidelity set-up when you're wife and children are hungry and you can't even pay the rent.   ;D

Last, just a note on tone controls.  If your system has them, by all means use them.  Doesn't really make sense to get a amplifer with tone controls and not use them.  Audio purists who like their signals untouched on a straight-wire-with-gain philosphy begin by getting amps WITHOUT tone controls.  That is what's right for them.  Actually for purists, it's not just wrong, it's an outright SIN to have tone controls.   ;D

But if you're not a purist, then it's not wrong to have tone controls.  

And in case you want to be a purist, not using tone controls in an amp that has them is not enough.  Whether you use them or not, those controls are sitting on the audio path dong nasty things to adulterate the signals.  Your amp simply must have NO tone controls.   ;D
Title: Re: Rotel rb-1080 stereo amp
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 23, 2006 at 04:47 PM

Regarding what makes one an 'audiophile' or not is purely up to the person.  There is
no 'certification' body or 'formal schooling' that is required for one to be labeled
an 'audiophile'.  If you think you are an audiophile, then you are one.  If not, then your are not. 
It's that simple.  It has nothing to do with the cost or choice of your equipment or playback
method, and has nothing to do with your personal beliefs in audio which greatly vary from
person to person.  An audiophile is simply a label you confer upon yourself and not a label
somebody imposes upon you.


To a large extent,  you're correct.  An audiophile simply means a lover of sounds which in practical use, has come to mean music lover.    You don't even have to have home reproduction gears to be an audiophile.  One who always attends and relishes live music in concerts  has more claim to the label than one who owns the most expensive equipment on earth but fails to achieve listening nirvana. 

But...with the way the label has come to mean over the years, commerically and socially, I  am not sure if you can separate the audiophile label with the passion of the hobby.   The passion is rooted on getting the right gears and ceaseless buying of records  to send you to such listening nirvana at home.   So to some extent, the label gets increasingly rooted with the kind of gears and the volume of records you have.  But it's one thing to get the right  gears and records and another to derive listening pleasure from them.  An audiophile expects to have one thing lead to the other - the right gears are just a means to an end.  Too bad the right gears are sometimes quite expensive. You often have to have years of experience in the hobby to know your sources of getting the best value for your gears.   But provided you are happy listening to music with the gears you have so diligently assembled, saved and spent for, you're an audiophile.

There's another breed of passionate people who like to collect gears associated with the audiophile hobby.  I don't know if they have the time listening to music and deriving pleasures from it, compared with the time they spent scrounging for collectible audiophile items and tinkering with them.  Not so sure if the label fits them.  They seem to like the hardware more than the software. 

Bottomline is, a true audiophile enjoys his music.  The gears are just a means to it.  Actually, you can identify an audiophile by the volume of his record collections.   But not just any records - they should be mostly audiophile level recordings.      ;D  And more assuredly, if he frequents concerts and live performances in studios.  I'm not entirely convinced you can call someone an audiophile who hasn't heard and enjoyed listening to how real musical instruments sound in a live performance.  ;D  Just my thoughts.


Title: Re: Rotel rb-1080 stereo amp
Post by: juvinyl on Mar 26, 2006 at 10:32 AM
Very eloquently said, Sir AV_Phile.   ;D

I've read in one of the articles about audiophile. 

"We believe that the sound of music, unamplified, occurring in a real space is a philosophic absolute against which we may judge the performance of devices designed to reproduce music."

My understanding is that If you let somebody sing in an open space, record and the playback sounds exactly or very near to the actual, then being an audiophile, you feel your goal is achieved. 

In that article it further said that gears of today are very far from reproducing what it said to be "philosophic absolute".  So, it is true that people ceaselessly buy expensive hardware just to attaine this philosophic absolute.

The word "unamplified" based on my understanding is that, the sound is being reproduced without using electronic amplifiers, microphones, etc, etc.  I can attest to this, because I don't like to hear music when the sound of the microphone is very noticeable.   

If an audiophile's basis for ultimate sound reproduction is live performance, imagine, there are a lot of microphones, amplifiers, cables, etc. etc. out there. 
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: lakambini on Jul 31, 2006 at 03:05 PM
hello,

how much is the price of the new ra-06?
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: Munskie on Aug 11, 2006 at 12:01 PM
bump ko lang, dami kasi discussion na ng Rotel sa ibang thread.... :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: lakambini on Aug 31, 2006 at 03:39 PM
magkano ang rotel rsx-1056?
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: Full HD 3D on Aug 31, 2006 at 04:36 PM
To all tweakers!
Where can i have my rotel 1066 amplifier binding posts upgraded ? Thanks!
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: nephilim on Aug 31, 2006 at 04:39 PM
Hmmm, that will void your warranty.  But audio stores who have in house technicians should be able to do that. 
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: Full HD 3D on Sep 01, 2006 at 08:10 AM
Hmmm, that will void your warranty.  But audio stores who have in house technicians should be able to do that. 
Sir, what brand of binding post kaya maganda klase
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: nephilim on Sep 01, 2006 at 08:14 AM
WBT should be good. 
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: YrNeH on Sep 02, 2006 at 06:56 AM
tanong lang po sa nakakaalam... magkano sa manila yung rotel RMB-1066 or RMB1075? kahit approx price lang.

thanks :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: et414 on Sep 02, 2006 at 05:49 PM
mga 58K ung 1075. baka pwede pa matawaran :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: indie boi on Oct 03, 2006 at 07:50 PM
What do you guys think of the Rotel RA-920AX? I'm trying to find a review but there is none available online? Is this a good performer?
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: scofield on Oct 20, 2006 at 01:12 PM
Sir,

Maganda ba ang rotel at dali concept 2 combo? how about rotel at wharfedale diamond 9.4 combo?

Balak ko kumuha na lang ng RA02, para sa HK 755. Ok kaya?

ano ba pinag kaiba ng RA02, RA04 at RA05? Maganda pa rin ba ang mga entry level int. amp ng rotel?

salamat po
Title: Re: Rotel rb-1080 stereo amp
Post by: accastil on Oct 28, 2006 at 11:19 AM
there are musophiles and there are audiophiles. those going to the extent of opening up the panels and tweaking from the component level are those so called audiophiles. while those contented with having good music playing for most of their lifetime are musophiles.

a musophile may not care at all about brands, wattage, etc for as long as they like the songs in play...in contrary, an audiophile may want to consider wattages, brands, ratings, reviews, and many other factors in trying to achieve musical nirvana. they may not like the songs but they would love it for its sound quality.

and then of course there are also audiophile musophiles...  :)
Title: Re: Rotel rb-1080 stereo amp
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 28, 2006 at 06:31 PM
You must be refering to  musicophile

The word “audiophile” has many connotations, even as it has only one definition: a person having an ardent interest in stereo or high-fidelity sound reproduction.  The key word is “fidelity.”  The traditional perspective has the audiophile pegged as a classical or jazz-loving music aficionado who strives to hear exactly what she would have heard had she been at the performance itself.  Tonal truthfulness, clarity in detail and realism in micro-dynamic contrast are all key parameters for a satisfying music reproduction system.  What is unique here is the focus on recreating an historical event.  The classic audiophile places great importance on hearing details such as breath patterns, valve clacks, or the echo and decay of the sound reflected from the back of the performance venue.

A “musicophile”, in contrast, listens at an emotional level.  Think here of someone enamored with pop music, a listener who likes to play it loud.  The music is physical, often accompanied by spontaneous dancing, bobbing and singing.  Physical impact, clean frequency extension and macro-dynamic control are likely to be critical.  The “musicophile” listener is likely to be attracted to multi-channel music recordings, recordings that are often re-releases of music originally composed, recorded and released in two-channel.  Why?  Because there is more to hear!


from
http://www.audioholics.com/news/editorials/soundsgreat.php

Though I think the distinction is not entirely black and white.  They dovetail each other. 



Title: RA-02 users please pm me
Post by: scofield on Nov 01, 2006 at 09:53 AM
may tatanong lang po ako regarding sa RA-02. Salamat po ng marami.

for peace of mind lang. :(
Title: Re: RA-02 users please pm me
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 01, 2006 at 02:59 PM
Non-user here but may be able to help. What is it?
Title: Re: RA-02 users please pm me
Post by: scofield on Nov 02, 2006 at 10:23 AM
MAy mga gusto lang sana ako itanong.

1. Pag naka on ba yung amp nyo may naririnig ba kayong mahinang hisssssing sound sa tweeter ng speaker ninyo?

2. Pag nakikinig ba kayo ng cd using your amp. tapos pinihit ninyo yung dial ng input selector sa ibang input eh may maririnig ka pa rin na sound from your cd player pero mahina lang rin?

kase yung sakin meron.

gusto ko lang po malaman for my peace of mind. Thank you very much
Title: Re: RA-02 users please pm me
Post by: RU9 on Nov 02, 2006 at 11:08 AM
MAy mga gusto lang sana ako itanong.

1. Pag naka on ba yung amp nyo may naririnig ba kayong mahinang hisssssing sound sa tweeter ng speaker ninyo?

2. Pag nakikinig ba kayo ng cd using your amp. tapos pinihit ninyo yung dial ng input selector sa ibang input eh may maririnig ka pa rin na sound from your cd player pero mahina lang rin?

kase yung sakin meron.

gusto ko lang po malaman for my peace of mind. Thank you very much



Nakadikit ba ang tenga mo sa tweeter at naririnig anfg hissing sound? Don't worry about this. Int pioneer amp ko meron, Rotel RB-03 + tube preamp me mahinang hum, AMX-EL84 tube amp ko, me hum.

Dumaan na rin ako dyan, want everything to be perfect. Kaya lang hindi pwede.

Title: Re: RA-02 users please pm me
Post by: scofield on Nov 02, 2006 at 11:15 AM
yes sir nkadikit nga, ok lang ako dun sa no. 1. pero yung concern ko nalang is yung crossed talk...
Title: Re: RA-02 users please pm me
Post by: Lucky7 on Nov 02, 2006 at 11:28 AM
warranty pa ba ang amp mo? if so, send it to the dealer para macheck then you will have a peace of mind.if not, that's the problem. I heard a Rotel 1062 int. amp once you power it on and the relay activates, I heard a loud click sa speakers due to the relay pero dapat di ganon.

gud lak
Title: Re: RA-02 users please pm me
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 02, 2006 at 11:30 AM
I think the amp is fine. I believe crosstalk is happening before the circuits. Maybe you can shield those unused input jacks. I'm just not sure if there are locally available connectors of that type.
Title: Re: RA-02 users please pm me
Post by: scofield on Nov 02, 2006 at 11:42 AM
salamat po mga kaibigan,

pero nasubukan ko na ibalik sa dealer, pero lahat ng stock nila ganun. nag punta rin ako sa ibang dealer ng rotel ganun din po...so baka normal lang sa rotel ito? :(

kaya nga gusto ko sana humingi ng feedback sa mga ra02 users eh.
Title: Re: RA-02 users please pm me
Post by: 5Speed on Nov 02, 2006 at 06:09 PM
hmmmm....IMO, it shouldnt be like that....... but I dont have a Rotel anyway, but if the lower class and cheaper amp doesnt exhibit this thing.....then it shouldnt happen  from  a mid to high end brand like rotels...

I can also hear the hissing sound while your ear is very very near the speaker, especially if you put the volume knob to the max....
Title: Re: RA-02 users please pm me
Post by: Reymer on Nov 02, 2006 at 10:07 PM
Im not a rotel user but I experienced that hissing sound once. I used better interconnects between my cd and preamp and it was gone. As for the crosstalk, maybe its inherent in the design of the RA02. This is also one reason why most audio-buffs prefer separates - cleaner sound  :) Nothing to worry, you could just turn ON only the source that you need to eliminate this crosstalk
Title: Re: RA-02 users please pm me
Post by: scofield on Nov 03, 2006 at 08:47 AM
Nag email ako sa rotel ito ang reply nila:

Dear Terry,
 
The amplifier is not faulty; the effect you describe is quite normal.
 
It is eliminated when the unused inputs are put into service - that is connected to other source products such as a tuner or DVD player.
 
Regards
 
Robert Burn
Technical Support
Rotel Europe
 
Tel: +44 1903 221700
Fax: +44 1903 221701
Title: Re: RA-02 users please pm me
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 03, 2006 at 08:51 AM
It implies that cables will be placed on the remaining inputs. Therefore, they will be somewhat shielded.
Title: Re: RA-02 users please pm me
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 03, 2006 at 12:53 PM
Ano ba input selector mechanism ng RA-02? is it mechanical or electronic?

Title: Re: RA-02 users please pm me
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 03, 2006 at 01:02 PM
Electronic daw.
Title: Re: RA-02 users please pm me
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 03, 2006 at 01:25 PM
Electronic daw.

Okidoki then. Most EISS (electronic input source selector) chips does not "ground" the unselected input. I doubt connecting other sources to unused inputs will solve this problem, or even using shielded interconnects.

You probably have reached the chip's limit for cross channel rejection that's why you still hear your cd player even if it is unselected. Unless the  unused inputs are "grounded" (shorted to gorund), this sort of phenomenon will always be present.

EDIT: Connecting other sources (such as suggested by Rotel) may solve the problem because that particular input will see the source's output impedance. Moreover, declaring an input's impedance (done by connecting a source) will be less sensitive (to crosstalk) than an input with infinite impedance.

Title: Re: RA-02 users please pm me
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 03, 2006 at 01:44 PM
How about for mechanical switches?

Mechanical daw yung RA04.
Title: Re: RA-02 users please pm me
Post by: scofield on Nov 03, 2006 at 01:57 PM
kailangan ba naka ON din yung second input ko para makita ng input yung source output impedance?
Title: Re: RA-02 users please pm me
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 03, 2006 at 02:19 PM
How about for mechanical switches?

Mechanical daw yung RA04.

I don't think mechanical source selectors suffer from that even at close proximity. Most EISS are composed of several bi-lateral switches that are contained within the same chip, so it is more prone to crosstalk (cross input/cross channel) than mechanical ones.

Advantages and disadvantages are another issue/story.  ;D

kailangan ba naka ON din yung second input ko para makita ng input yung source output impedance?

nope, it just has to be connected thereby "closing/completing" the circuit. I personally don't like this solution, but if you'll just use one source then don't even bother.

Title: Re: RA-02 users please pm me
Post by: ricky on Nov 03, 2006 at 07:21 PM
Nag email ako sa rotel ito ang reply nila:

Dear Terry,
 
The amplifier is not faulty; the effect you describe is quite normal.
 
It is eliminated when the unused inputs are put into service - that is connected to other source products such as a tuner or DVD player.
 
Regards
 
Robert Burn
Technical Support
Rotel Europe
 
Tel: +44 1903 221700
Fax: +44 1903 221701


This only implies that you buy tuner and dvd player to connect to that inputs :P :(
Title: Re: RA-02 users please pm me
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 03, 2006 at 09:52 PM
 ;D ;D ;D

nevertheless, if you'll just use one source then there is absolutely nothing to worry about.

minsan ang commercial amps parang babae yan... bihira yun matangkad, maputi, balingkinitan, mahaba buhok, maganda mga mata, matangos ang ilong, at higit sa lahat matalino. yun ba tipong nandun na ang lahat... pero sorry, wala nun ganun.

most of the time it's a compromise.  ;D ;D ;D

Cheers

PS: Please excuse me again, it's one of my funny moods...


Title: Re: RA-02 users please pm me
Post by: scofield on Nov 06, 2006 at 09:15 AM
hi,

sinubukan ko lagyan ng input yung mga vacant inputs ng amp ko pero ganun p rin...papaayos ko na lang sa kanila.

salamat po sa mga reply ninyo.
Title: Re: RA-02 users please pm me
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 06, 2006 at 12:10 PM
hi,

sinubukan ko lagyan ng input yung mga vacant inputs ng amp ko pero ganun p rin...papaayos ko na lang sa kanila.

salamat po sa mga reply ninyo.

Balitaan mo kami kung magagawa nila na alisin yun crosstalk.  ;)

Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: lakambini on Nov 08, 2006 at 05:06 PM
where can i buy the ra-03 and for how much?
Title: Re: RA-02 users please pm me
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 18, 2006 at 11:03 AM
I was studying the RA-02 technical manual when I remembered this thread. Here is the input section using electronic source selector chip...

(http://www.filehigh.com/serve/13381/278782.jpg)

I havent studied the TC9163AN chip which handles the input selection but I guess your answer is somewhere there...



Title: Re: RA-02 users please pm me
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 18, 2006 at 06:47 PM
You could also try to short the inputs of the other unused inputs by doing this simple trick that I thought of.  ;D

Buy a pair of those cheap rca plugs (used to terminate diy interconnects), open it up by unscrewing the cover then connect a small wire across the "hot" terminal and the ground. then screw back the cover/sleeve and presto! You now have an input shorting rca plug which should cure your inter-source problems.  8)

Cheers

Title: Re: RA-02 users please pm me
Post by: scofield on Nov 20, 2006 at 02:06 PM
salamat sir jojo. san ka nakakuha ng technical manual?

thanks
Title: Re: RA-02 users please pm me
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 20, 2006 at 03:16 PM
you're welcome. hinahanap ko nga yun nadidinig mo dito sa RA-02 na nasa pero wala ako madinig na cross-talk.

nakita mo na ba laman ng amp mo? eto tignan mo ang kapogian...

(http://www.filehigh.com/serve/13381/278969.jpg)

gaganda ng mga parts, ganda ng tunog... parang gusto ko tuloy i-clone yun amp section.  :-X

 ;D ;D ;D

pinadala lang sa akin yun manual.

Title: Re: RA-02 users please pm me
Post by: scofield on Nov 20, 2006 at 03:25 PM
di ko pa binubuksan eh, pero parang ganyan nga yung nasisilip ko.
gusto mong buksan? ;) hehehehe
Title: Re: RA-02 users please pm me
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 21, 2006 at 01:06 AM
di ko pa binubuksan eh, pero parang ganyan nga yung nasisilip ko.
gusto mong buksan? ;) hehehehe

naku huwag na, baka ma-void pa ang warranty ng unit mo.  ;D ;D ;D

solve na problem ng unit na ito, bilib ako kahit ang baba ng idle current walang distortion sa high frequency.  8)

surprisingly, its a typical topology class ab design which is not new. I think the favorable sonic characteristics of this amp can be attributed to the choice of parts. very strategic placements of polystyrene caps, low noise mf resistors and low esr lytics, and not to mention the use of Sanyo complimentary output devices. It's cool.

Title: Re: RA-02 users please pm me
Post by: scofield on Nov 21, 2006 at 09:33 AM
sinilip ko uli yung amp ko ganyan na ganyan nga din yun nasisilip ko sa loob. magkaiba lang siguro ng selector...bakit sir ano ba problema ng ra02 mo?
Title: Re: RA-02 users please pm me
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 21, 2006 at 09:51 AM
sinilip ko uli yung amp ko ganyan na ganyan nga din yun nasisilip ko sa loob. magkaiba lang siguro ng selector...bakit sir ano ba problema ng ra02 mo?

hindi sa akin ito sir, pinapagawa lang kasi ayaw tumunog ng isang channel. pero oks na siya.  :)

Title: rotel 1075
Post by: thermionics on Nov 24, 2006 at 09:50 PM
anybody using rotel 1075 for ht?

how good is it?
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: et414 on Nov 24, 2006 at 11:31 PM
very good. i was blown away when i hooked up the 1075 to my receiver. i wasn't really expecting much of a difference so i was really surpised. the sound became much more dynamic especially during complex scores like the opening battle in gladator.
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: classicman on Nov 25, 2006 at 08:11 AM
another user here ;)........i would say that acquiring the RMB-1075 was my best upgrade so far, except of course w/ the acoustic treatment that i made on our HT room :D........it really made my speakers sing & very detailed, now i keep on hearing instruments or sound details that i couldn't hear before, it gives the needed ooomph to the overall sound of my set-up & it enhanced the sound of my rear speakers :o........it's a real bang for the buck multi-channel amp. 8)
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 25, 2006 at 11:12 AM
hi guys,

what's the difference between the 1075 and the 1095?

thanks

Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: Oloap on Nov 25, 2006 at 11:43 AM
sirs,

how much is a brand new 1075? 1066? and how much would second hands go?

is the 1066 sufficient to make systems sing?

thanks...
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: et414 on Nov 25, 2006 at 11:59 AM
hi guys,

what's the difference between the 1075 and the 1095?

thanks



basically its 120wpc vs 200wpc. the 1075 is a smaller version of the 1095
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 25, 2006 at 12:27 PM
basically its 120wpc vs 200wpc. the 1075 is a smaller version of the 1095

Ok, so basically it's the same except for the power rating. I asked because I was studying tech manuals of Rotel amps and receivers when this thread was started, kinda looking for clues as to why these buggers sounds good - well at least to my ears.  :)



Thanks



Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: sanmig_ph on Nov 25, 2006 at 12:29 PM
sirs,

how much is a brand new 1075? 1066? and how much would second hands go?

is the 1066 sufficient to make systems sing?

thanks...

yes 1066 can make your speaker sing,6x60w , u can bridge it at 120 w x3 , u can bi amp 3 channel.
1075 nasa 55 to 60 k yata yung brand new not sure bro.
1066 i dont see any store selling this.
hope this helps.
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: et414 on Nov 25, 2006 at 12:32 PM
sirs,

how much is a brand new 1075? 1066? and how much would second hands go?

is the 1066 sufficient to make systems sing?

thanks...

last i checked the 1075 was around 60k while the 1066 was around 35k. a used 1075 sold for 45k at the marketplace a few months ago.

 i think it depends on your other component, your room and how loud you like to play it. most people in other forums recommend the 1075 because of the power difference. from what i read the 1066 was designed mainly for multiroom audio. try demoing both to hear for yourself
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: et414 on Nov 25, 2006 at 12:35 PM
jojo

the 1095 had a bigger power supply. it also had more capacitors i think. i'm not really sure about the technical stuff. i think this is already discontinued though.
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 25, 2006 at 12:44 PM
saw the pics of 1075 and 1095 and it sure is huge, with a spec of 200W@8R and all channels driven, the power supply should be something serious indeed.

looks kinda old though since it still uses 3 pairs of Toshiba's 2SC5200/2SA1943 devices per channel, so you may be correct regarding the amp being discontinued to give way to newer models.

Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: alexg on Nov 25, 2006 at 12:50 PM
Are these ratings, all channels driven simultaneously?

How good are Rotel's rating, or how honest is Rotel?
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: et414 on Nov 25, 2006 at 12:53 PM
yeah it is one serious amp. i think it uses (2) 1kw torroidal transformer while the 1075 uses only (1) 1.2kw :o :o

here's a link to club rotel: http://www.htguide.com/forum/forumdisplay.php4?f=20

lots of interesting reads :)
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: et414 on Nov 25, 2006 at 12:59 PM
rotel is known for conservative ratings. in one test the 1075 was driven to 130wpc all channels driven

correction 1 1.5kw pala sa 1075 and 2 1.2kw transformer sa 1095
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: classicman on Nov 25, 2006 at 01:01 PM
Are these ratings, all channels driven simultaneously?

How good are Rotel's rating, or how honest is Rotel?


alex, rotel is reputed to be honest in rating their power amps., & many users (including me) would attest that these ratings are very conservative, meaning these amps. can actually produce more juice than their posted specs :o..........& yes, multi-channel power amps. of rotel are rated w/ all their channels being driven simultaneously 8)
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 25, 2006 at 01:19 PM
Are these ratings, all channels driven simultaneously?

How good are Rotel's rating, or how honest is Rotel?

The manual suggests that it can. 3 pairs of output devices per channel is conservative at 200W/channel. The psu cap values are more than adequate for a typical amp in this level and uses two power transformers.

However, I take back my original statement stating that the 1095's power of "200W@8R all channels driven" since the manual does not indicate this. I got confused with the 1095's and 1048's (40W@8R - all channels driven) specs since I was reading both of them simultaneously.  ;D

I honestly don't know about Rotel's way of testing their amps but the tech (not user's) manual I have of several Rotel amps and receivers and by looking at their power supply specs and output device specs sheets suggets that their ratings are on the conservative side.

My adventurous hands got a hold of an RA-02 specimen which is rated at 40W/ch that reached 55W before clipping with a 1KHz sinewave input signal and both channels driven into 8ohms resistive load.  :)
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: Oloap on Nov 25, 2006 at 04:08 PM
Thanks for the replies guys. Im more of an HT guy. I have a Harman 235. My room is about 15sqm. Would the you still recommend a 1075 or 1066 is good enough?
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: newbie pa rin on Nov 27, 2006 at 11:18 AM
Im planning on acquiring the 1075.
Whats the effect if I use it for stereo listening only?
Would the other channels can be turned off?
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: Munskie on Nov 27, 2006 at 11:43 AM
Im planning on acquiring the 1075.
Whats the effect if I use it for stereo listening only?
Would the other channels can be turned off?
newbs..you can consider 1070 or 1080...two channel amps for stereo listening.... :)
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: et414 on Nov 27, 2006 at 12:46 PM
i read that at 2 channels driven the 1075 can go 160+wpc. but munskie is right, for 2 channel the rb-1080 would definitely be better
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: mike c on Nov 27, 2006 at 02:36 PM
Thanks for the replies guys. Im more of an HT guy. I have a Harman 235. My room is about 15sqm. Would the you still recommend a 1075 or 1066 is good enough?


I used to have a yamaha rx-v640 powering floorstanders.  when I got the 1066, I bridged the channels to make 150/180wpc.  it made a LOT of difference in the bass department.  but that was during 100+db peaks ... I like the 1066 because of the power:price ratio.  re:1070 vs. 1066 for HT use, I dont think you will hear the better quality of the 1070 for HT use.  stick with the 1066 and you even get one extra channel for the center
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: synchro_01 on Nov 27, 2006 at 02:49 PM
the RB1080 is very good for stereo applications.  its 200W per channel will power almost any speaker out there except the super exotics with very low sensitivity specifications. very musical and provides an effortless presentation even at high levels when called for.

here is our RB1080 powering the mids/midbass drivers of the N805's. tweeters powered by the RA1062 integrated amp. source is the RCD1072 CD Player:

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m236/tuned_2006/sala.jpg)


cheers  :)
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: newbie pa rin on Nov 27, 2006 at 03:01 PM
i read that at 2 channels driven the 1075 can go 160+wpc. but munskie is right, for 2 channel the rb-1080 would definitely be better

Thanks guys but...
I would also use the 1075 for HT.
I just want to know the impact if its being use for 2 channels only.
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: et414 on Nov 27, 2006 at 03:14 PM
if you feed it w/ a stereo signal then the other 3 channels won't be used. there are no individual on/off switches per channel.
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: sanmig_ph on Nov 27, 2006 at 11:08 PM
I used to have a yamaha rx-v640 powering floorstanders.  when I got the 1066, I bridged the channels to make 150/180wpc.  it made a LOT of difference in the bass department.  but that was during 100+db peaks ... I like the 1066 because of the power:price ratio.  re:1070 vs. 1066 for HT use, I dont think you will hear the better quality of the 1070 for HT use.  stick with the 1066 and you even get one extra channel for the center

sir mike,
na try nyo ba yung 1066 sa bi amp? how do you compare it to bridge & bi amp?san mas maganda gamitin if using 3 channel?
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: mike c on Nov 28, 2006 at 08:02 AM
sir mike,
na try nyo ba yung 1066 sa bi amp? how do you compare it to bridge & bi amp?san mas maganda gamitin if using 3 channel?

sir,

haven't tried bi-amping the 1066 specifically, but tried the 1077.  in my opinion, bridging or getting a larger powered amp is better than bi-amping. 
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: mike c on Nov 28, 2006 at 08:03 AM

here is our RB1080 powering the mids/midbass drivers of the N805's. tweeters powered by the RA1062 integrated amp. source is the RCD1072 CD Player:

cheers  :)

sir, where are you from? (if from the Phils., did you buy your 1080 here?)  are you using the 12v trigger on your RB1080?  no problems?
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: classicman on Nov 28, 2006 at 08:52 AM
the RB1080 is very good for stereo applications.  its 200W per channel will power almost any speaker out there except the super exotics with very low sensitivity specifications. very musical and provides an effortless presentation even at high levels when called for.

here is our RB1080 powering the mids/midbass drivers of the N805's. tweeters powered by the RA1062 integrated amp. source is the RCD1072 CD Player:

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m236/tuned_2006/sala.jpg)


cheers  :)


synchro_01, congrats for your great gears & awesome audio set-up, i guess the RA-1062 in your post is a typo coz what i see in your pic is the higher model RA-1070 :o :o :o........since you're using the integrated amp. to "bi-amp" your N805 together w/ your RB-1080, what are you using as your pre-amp?  yun bang nasa ilalim ng rack below the RB-1080?  & what sub are you using to complement your N805? ::)

thanks 8)
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 28, 2006 at 10:17 AM
kinda looking for clues as to why these buggers sounds good - well at least to my ears.  :)



One distinguishing spec of many separate power amps in this range is the damping factor - a trait often overlooked and considered unnecessary by many.  If you look at many receivers, damping factor is quite low, often below 100.  Whereas power amps, like the Rotel, MF, Acurus, Brystons, etc, have damping factors in excess of 500 and into the thousands - indicating their better abilities to control speaker movement for the same cable length and overall load impedance. 

This, on top of other factors, like lower noise floors, flatter and wider frequency response and often more generous power reserves. 
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 28, 2006 at 10:43 AM

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m236/tuned_2006/sala.jpg)


Woohoo!!! Beautiful !!!  :)

Just curious, Did you get your speakers from SD last year? Did we happen to meet? I recall meeting some good looking guy  ;) buying those B&W speakers & B&W stands at SD before.

Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: synchro_01 on Nov 28, 2006 at 01:44 PM

synchro_01, congrats for your great gears & awesome audio set-up, i guess the RA-1062 in your post is a typo coz what i see in your pic is the higher model RA-1070 :o :o :o........since you're using the integrated amp. to "bi-amp" your N805 together w/ your RB-1080, what are you using as your pre-amp?  yun bang nasa ilalim ng rack below the RB-1080?  & what sub are you using to complement your N805? ::)

thanks 8)

20/20 vision sir. Yes it is a RA1070. sorry bout the error.  The RA1070 serves as my Preamp and has 100 watts per channel dedicated to the tweeters of the 805's. There are two pairs of preouts that are provided by the RA1070. One pair is dedicated for the RB1080 (200 watts for the mids) plus the other pair of pre-outs going to the ASW600.  Cables by IXOS plus stands are B&W as well.  The one on the bottom is a line conditioner which is connected to a variac and regulator.  In a nutshell that would be the setup.

RCD-1072 ------------------ RA-1070 integrated -----------------------------------tweeters 805
                                         |   |
                                         |   |
                                         |   |-----RB-1080 power amp---------------------- mid/midbass 805
                                         |
                                         |--line out--------------------------------------------- sub ASW600
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: synchro_01 on Nov 28, 2006 at 01:48 PM
sir, where are you from? (if from the Phils., did you buy your 1080 here?)  are you using the 12v trigger on your RB1080?  no problems?

mike c,

1080 was bought from Sound Dimension. No im not using the remote trigger of the amp.
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: synchro_01 on Nov 28, 2006 at 02:27 PM
Mat,

Yes the entire setup was from Sound Dimension.  Good looking guy? hehe i wish

cheers
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: Narayan on Nov 28, 2006 at 08:45 PM
the RB1080 is very good for stereo applications.  its 200W per channel will power almost any speaker out there except the super exotics with very low sensitivity specifications. very musical and provides an effortless presentation even at high levels when called for.

here is our RB1080 powering the mids/midbass drivers of the N805's. tweeters powered by the RA1062 integrated amp. source is the RCD1072 CD Player:

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m236/tuned_2006/sala.jpg)


cheers  :)

wow :o an all rotel set-up. am also using an all-black RB1080 mated with an onkyo integra pre-amp driving a pair of  meadowlark kestrel 2 :) . btw, the manual states that the damping factor of the RB1080 is 1000 ;D
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: mike c on Nov 29, 2006 at 07:56 AM
mike c,

1080 was bought from Sound Dimension. No im not using the remote trigger of the amp.

thanks for the info synchro, ultra cool audio setup btw.
why don't you use the trigger?  or do you keep your RB1080 always on?
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: synchro_01 on Nov 29, 2006 at 09:37 AM
guys

thanks for the comments. The RB1080 Bi-amp configuration actually is the most recent add on to this system.  The sound of the N805's is entirely different when biamped at 300 watts per channel. In short it improved a lot.  Im quite happy with the system synergy of this system  :)


mike c,

will try to install the trigger this weekend. one less button to press when turning it on and off. thanks  :)
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: newbie pa rin on Nov 29, 2006 at 05:12 PM
i read that at 2 channels driven the 1075 can go 160+wpc. but munskie is right, for 2 channel the rb-1080 would definitely be better

Is it Ok to get the RB1080 and let my receiver(HK235) power the other speakers for HT or better get the 1075 to power the front speaker for audio listening?

What would be the better path to take?
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: sanmig_ph on Nov 30, 2006 at 12:16 AM
Is it Ok to get the RB1080 and let my receiver(HK235) power the other speakers for HT or better get the 1075 to power the front speaker for audio listening?

What would be the better path to take?

for stereo listening rb1080 is much better than 1075 but for ht, ill go for 1075. value for money bro.
get the rb1080 pag hindi ka nasiyahan benta mo sakin kuha ka ng 1075 hehehe.
still looking for pre owned 1080 pero walang nagbebenta sa buy sell eh.
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: mike c on Nov 30, 2006 at 08:31 AM
mike c,

will try to install the trigger this weekend. one less button to press when turning it on and off. thanks  :)

wag muna boss, i was asking because I have read a lot of stories about 1080's na may nasisirang fuse that MIGHT be because of the trigger.  kaya hindi ako makabili ng 1080 kasi takot ako sa trigger, pero ayaw ko namang wala.

just curious kung affected ang philippine units
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: synchro_01 on Nov 30, 2006 at 02:55 PM
mike C

thanks for the info
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: Full HD 3D on Nov 30, 2006 at 03:42 PM
I used to have a yamaha rx-v640 powering floorstanders.  when I got the 1066, I bridged the channels to make 150/180wpc.  it made a LOT of difference in the bass department.  but that was during 100+db peaks ... I like the 1066 because of the power:price ratio.  re:1070 vs. 1066 for HT use, I dont think you will hear the better quality of the 1070 for HT use.  stick with the 1066 and you even get one extra channel for the center
Agree. 40T only/180w.p.c.X 3. Where on earth can you get this. Not noticeable ang bridge comparing to multi-channel amp. or 2 channel. In H.T  pwede na sa ganyan presyo. What i did was 6 channel bridge to 3 channel to drive Left center & right. For surround i used the receiver power.
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: newbie pa rin on Nov 30, 2006 at 03:55 PM
Agree. 40T only/180w.p.c.X 3. Where on earth can you get this. Not noticeable ang bridge comparing to multi-channel amp. or 2 channel. In H.T  pwede na sa ganyan presyo. What i did was 6 channel bridge to 3 channel to drive Left center & right. For surround i used the receiver power.

Sir are you saying that its more advantageous to get the 1066(power:price ratio) against the 1075,1080?
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: Munskie on Nov 30, 2006 at 04:05 PM
Agree. 40T only/180w.p.c.X 3. Where on earth can you get this. Not noticeable ang bridge comparing to multi-channel amp. or 2 channel. In H.T  pwede na sa ganyan presyo. What i did was 6 channel bridge to 3 channel to drive Left center & right. For surround i used the receiver power.
i agree......power where you need it...at the fronts..... :)
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 30, 2006 at 04:45 PM
Sir are you saying that its more advantageous to get the 1066(power:price ratio) against the 1075,1080?

I had actually considered this option before.  The 1066 bridged delivers 150wpc RMS into 3 channels.  For 40T in 2004 at Sound DImension, it seemed a great value at that time.  Maybe still is.  ;D 
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: mike c on Nov 30, 2006 at 05:13 PM
40T is SRP, actual price is less than that  ;)

oh and also, 150w is rotel's humble rating but ... when asked about the 1066's 4 ohm rating, it is 90 watts.  therefore, 8ohm bridged is 180watts.
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: sanmig_ph on Nov 30, 2006 at 07:41 PM
40T is SRP, actual price is less than that  ;)

oh and also, 150w is rotel's humble rating but ... when asked about the 1066's 4 ohm rating, it is 90 watts.  therefore, 8ohm bridged is 180watts.

the manual says only 8 ohm speaker can be bridged.
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: mike c on Nov 30, 2006 at 09:09 PM
the manual says only 8 ohm speaker can be bridged.

you can determine an amp's bridged rating by adding the 4ohm rating (which is 90 watts)

for example, the rotel rmb 1066 normally does 60w x 6 at 8ohms.  it also does 90w x 6 at 4 ohms.  since you bridge 2 channels to make one channel, the rating is 180w [90w + 90w]

 (but you are required to use 8ohm speakers because in using 4 ohms speakers, the amp will see a 2 ohm load)
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: sanmig_ph on Nov 30, 2006 at 09:56 PM
you can determine an amp's bridged rating by adding the 4ohm rating (which is 90 watts)

for example, the rotel rmb 1066 normally does 60w x 6 at 8ohms.  it also does 90w x 6 at 4 ohms.  since you bridge 2 channels to make one channel, the rating is 180w [90w + 90w]

 (but you are required to use 8ohm speakers because in using 4 ohms speakers, the amp will see a 2 ohm load)

can i bridge the rotel rmb1066 in wharfdale evo30 w/ 6ohm speaker impedance?
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: mike c on Dec 01, 2006 at 10:13 AM
can i bridge the rotel rmb1066 in wharfdale evo30 w/ 6ohm speaker impedance?


if the wharfedale is 6 ohms, no, you can't use the bridged 1066 ... baka magoverheat
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 01, 2006 at 11:40 AM
Bridging power amps can be stressful to the amp as each amp sees half the load requiring twice the current to be extracted.  Using a 6 ohm nominal load will be seen as 3 ohms which can be taxing to amps unless it is also rated at 2 ohms. 

I am not entirely convinced about the wisdom of bridging amps for home high fidelity purposes.  That is why I dropped the idea of doing one and settled for an amp with more muscle to begin with.  I have read and heard that bridging is more a PA solution for getting more power where more power is the priority, not hifi.   Bridging is also used a lot in making subwoofers more powerful where distortions are not as objectionable as in mids and highs.  But bridged amps not only require more caution in setting up and wiring, but also can operate the amps to near stressful conditions where higher distortions can compromise its dynamics. 
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: synchro_01 on Dec 01, 2006 at 12:47 PM
It will all depend on the amp's construction if it would safely and reliably operate in bridged mode without sacrificing sound quality.  The manufacturer wont include instructions on how to bridge the amp if that method would affect the reliability and sound quality of their product.   From my short experience with Rotel amps however, they do not double their rated power when applied with a 4 ohm load in stereo so its safe to say that when bridged it would not automatically give out twice its power but it will definitely operate linearly and with reliabilty even if you bridge it.
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: Full HD 3D on Dec 01, 2006 at 01:39 PM
Sir are you saying that its more advantageous to get the 1066(power:price ratio) against the 1075,1080?
Its not a case of advantageous or not. Its a case of having a fat wallet or not. In this case, I get the best of both world without burning a hole in the pocket. There is 1 unit of Rotel 1066 at Image Harrison. I think the price is 33T only.
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: newbie pa rin on Dec 01, 2006 at 02:34 PM
Its not a case of advantageous or not. Its a case of having a fat wallet or not. In this case, I get the best of both world without burning a hole in the pocket. There is 1 unit of Rotel 1066 at Image Harrison. I think the price is 33T only.
Sir where is Image Harrison and is it OK for them to do home audition?
And how do I do the bridging?
Im using B&W 602S3 and LCR60S3.
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: sanmig_ph on Dec 01, 2006 at 04:28 PM
if the wharfedale is 6 ohms, no, you can't use the bridged 1066 ... baka magoverheat

thanks sir mike, nasa manual din kasi 8ohm lang talaga pwede i bridge.
bi amp na lang pwede pa kaso kulang na ako ng amp to drive the surrounds
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 01, 2006 at 05:49 PM
It will all depend on the amp's construction if it would safely and reliably operate in bridged mode without sacrificing sound quality.  The manufacturer wont include instructions on how to bridge the amp if that method would affect the reliability and sound quality of their product.   From my short experience with Rotel amps however, they do not double their rated power when applied with a 4 ohm load in stereo so its safe to say that when bridged it would not automatically give out twice its power but it will definitely operate linearly and with reliabilty even if you bridge it.

Actually, in a linear amp, the power is doubled at half the load.  When bridged, the power is quadrupled, not just doubled.   An amp that doesn't double the power at half load, strictly, theortetically and ideally speaking,  doesn't behave linearly, it gets to be current-challenged when presented with very low loads.  In real practice then, an amp that closely doubles its power at half the load is good enough.   With an amp that only increases its power 50% or less at half the load, you can suspect it doesn't behave linearly vs load. 

A lot of power amp models out there for home hifi are desgned with bridging as an optional feature, Bryston, Rotel, Arcam, etc.  (Bridging is really the province of professional andconcert amps like Peavey, Behringer, QMC. etc. )  But regardless. I tend to shy away from situations where the amp has to be stressed doubling its current needlessly.  No amp sounds good when stressed.   ;D  Ofcourse listening habits determine the stress on amps more readily.  If you listen at confortable levels, it wouldn't really matter much.  Then again, if you listen at comfortable levels, why bridge?  ;D   To gain better dynamic headroom?  I supposed that's perfectly ok.  But given a choice, i'd prefer not to bridge.  For me, it's the final resort when wanting more power for home playback beyond what is obtainable. Just a thought.
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: mike c on Dec 01, 2006 at 08:49 PM
And how do I do the bridging?
Im using B&W 602S3 and LCR60S3.

go to rotel's website ... you can download the manual - inside there are pics of the front and back of the amp with labels.  that's what I always do, in fact, I have ALL the manuals and pics of many many brands stored on my HD. 

anyway, there are switches at the back to choose stereo or bridged mode
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: mike c on Dec 01, 2006 at 08:52 PM
thanks sir mike, nasa manual din kasi 8ohm lang talaga pwede i bridge.
bi amp na lang pwede pa kaso kulang na ako ng amp to drive the surrounds

sorry wala kasi akong 6 ohm speaker to test it out.

pag bi-amp medyo wala nang benefits, hindi kasi yan 60w + 60w.  its more like 60w for the lows + 5w for the highs.  so in effect ang potential gains lang ay 5w (this is round up pa kasi the tweeter will never use 5w) and the fact that the lows hindi nakikipagagawan sa tweeter ng power.
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: sanmig_ph on Dec 01, 2006 at 10:36 PM
sorry wala kasi akong 6 ohm speaker to test it out.

pag bi-amp medyo wala nang benefits, hindi kasi yan 60w + 60w.  its more like 60w for the lows + 5w for the highs.  so in effect ang potential gains lang ay 5w (this is round up pa kasi the tweeter will never use 5w) and the fact that the lows hindi nakikipagagawan sa tweeter ng power.

kala ko kasi pag bi amp 60w 60w hindi pala ??? but for ht & audio ok na ok cya. i just want to try sana in bi amp.
dati when i bridge it sa b&w 303 BS & kef cresta BS it sound like FS :D 8 ohm kasi sila hindi gaya ng wharf 6 ohm.

Title: Rotel RSP 1066 Processor
Post by: pjohn on Mar 25, 2007 at 04:07 PM
Need help, is my rotel RSP 1066 processor capable of decoding the 7.1 audio format of blu-ray and hd-dvd discs?

Tnx, any comment is welcome   :) :)
Title: Re: Rotel RSP 1066 Processor
Post by: MAtZTER on Mar 26, 2007 at 03:18 PM
Via analog to your multi channel in & if it has 8 inputs (7.1)..YES.

check latest firmware update that turns 1066 to 7.1

If your HD or BD player has no analog outs... NO.

Title: Re: Rotel RSP 1066 Processor
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 28, 2007 at 07:51 PM
Are there already BD and HD DVD titles in 7.1? 
Title: Rotel RB1070 VS. RB1072 Stereo Amp
Post by: bassman on Jul 16, 2007 at 11:53 AM
Sirs I just want to get opinion regarding the differences in terms of performance between RB1070 High Current Amp and RB1072 Class D Amp. I'll be paring it with my old MS908 floorstanders for pure Audio application.

I noticed in their specs that THD of RB1072 is higher than RB1070.

Many thanks!
Title: Re: Rotel RB1070 VS. RB1072 Stereo Amp
Post by: av_phile1 on Jul 16, 2007 at 12:08 PM
I noticed in their specs that THD of RB1072 is higher than RB1070.


THD of class D amps are often higher than in a good class A/B amp of the same power rating (in fact in any power rating)  But you can have excellent quality at volumes way below rated power.  Just FYI, serious audiophiles have yet to consider class D power amps as audiophile-class.  Though the topology is quite successful when used in subwoofers with limited bandwidth.   Class D amps are very efficient (most efficient actually) but new designs are working to overcome inherent limitations.

From the rotel site about the RB 1072:
The RB-1072 features innovative engineering that has transformed the sound of early Class D amplifiers from less-than-stellar products to real audiophile components. Two of these design accomplishments are *MECC (Multivariable Enhanced Cascade Control) and *COM (Controlled Oscillation Modulation) which substantially reduce pulse amplitude and pulse timing errors. Together, these technological solutions, along with Rotel’s BDC, have helped changed the future of power amplification and allowed Class D switching amplifiers to realize their full potential of high power, low heat, reduced chassis size, and first class sound.

http://europe.rotel.com/products/specs/rb1072.htm

So maybe the Rotel's class D designs are worth a try. Personally, I'm no gambler so I'd stick it out with the older class A/B designs of worth.   ;D  I suggest you audition the two side by side, driving the same speakers and having the same source.  Try listening at your comfy levels and see which one you prefer.  I think Sound Dimension might be carrying both models. 
Title: Re: Rotel RB1070 VS. RB1072 Stereo Amp
Post by: mike c on Jul 16, 2007 at 01:14 PM
if you have no space or heat issues, I would go for the (most likely) cheaper RB1070
Title: Re: Rotel RB1070 VS. RB1072 Stereo Amp
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 16, 2007 at 01:18 PM
Due to Class D's efficiency, they require smaller power supplies compared to similarly powered linear counterparts. Also smaller heatsinks. Makes me wonder why they cost more.
Title: Re: Rotel RB1070 VS. RB1072 Stereo Amp
Post by: bassman on Jul 16, 2007 at 02:52 PM
Thanks for the replies, I'd stick to class a/b or conventional amps coz like what mr. av_phile1 said I can't afford the risk and I'm no gambler also. I'm very much concern of THD coz I normally crank the volume to higher level during daytime listening to compensate ambient noise.

Further question, my MS908 is rated 15W-150W and I'm planning to get 200Wpc rotel amps, is it ok or I may damage my speaker at higher volume level? How about 130Wpc amps, or two 70Wpc amps in bi-amp mode? I'm worried that 130Wpc or two 70Wpc in bi-amp mode will not give me the same sonic experience compared with my current setup. Currently, I'm using 100Wpc and 85Wpc amp to drive the LF and HF respectively of my MS908.

To bumblebee and mikec:
How much is RB1070 now?
Title: Re: Rotel RB1070 VS. RB1072 Stereo Amp
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 16, 2007 at 03:01 PM
I don't know the local prices.

MSRP is $699 for the 1070, $899 for the 1072.

No, you won't damage your speakers.
Title: Re: Rotel RB1070 VS. RB1072 Stereo Amp
Post by: mike c on Jul 16, 2007 at 04:27 PM
don't worry, kahit 1 million watts pa ikabit mo sa speakers mo, yung volume control pa rin ang nagdedecide how much power goes into your speakers.

30+k php ata ang RB1070, I don't even know if available na sa pinas ang 1072.

don't worry about the THD, human hearing will not be able to distinguish such small THD differences.

don't bother with bi-amp (sayang investment mo, kasi ang highs ng speaker, wala masyadong demand on wattage).  when you buy your amp, make sure it's the wattage you want (yung malakas na)

Title: Re: Rotel RB1070 VS. RB1072 Stereo Amp
Post by: gearhead on Jul 16, 2007 at 06:24 PM
don't worry, kahit 1 million watts pa ikabit mo sa speakers mo, yung volume control pa rin ang nagdedecide how much power goes into your speakers.

don't worry about the THD, human hearing will be able to distinguish such small THD differences.

don't bother with bi-amp (sayang investment mo, kasi ang highs ng speaker, wala masyadong demand on wattage).  when you buy your amp, make sure it's the wattage you want (yung malakas na)
same three thoughts in my mind, too. as the proponent of hi-power amps here, sir matz, would say... go for higher power in driving your capable speakers. a low power amp's oscillation at clipping volumes will kill your speakers faster. with the hi power, your ears might have given up earlier than the speakers.

about the THD, i have read somewhere that for it to be audible it must be around 10% (???) or thereabouts. not that we now go about buying 5-8% THD amps. what's the more important factor is the power rating measurement. if it says 100w at 10% thd, for sure... even a 50-70w amp @ 1% thd is better, much more so for [email protected]% THD. sometimes kasi we just read what the power rating is and not how they arrived at that figure. even established manufacturers sometimes rate their amps differently.

medyo nagulat din ako dun sa ms-908 na bi-amped pati tweeter. as mike said they're not that power hungry and sometimes me mga current-limiting resistors pa itong mga ito. i would understand a biamped wharfe 9.6 pa siguro. an amp for the sub bass and another for the midbass/hf.
Title: Re: Rotel RB1070 VS. RB1072 Stereo Amp
Post by: accastil on Jul 16, 2007 at 06:52 PM
since its both by rotel, most probably theyd have the same sonic characteristics. effeciency wise, the class D is a winner.
Title: Re: Rotel RB1070 VS. RB1072 Stereo Amp
Post by: bassman on Jul 16, 2007 at 07:46 PM
what really bothers me is which system should I go to accomplished maximum performance at the cost I can afford.my plan is to get a single 200wpc amp or bi-amp of 70wpc for HF and 100wpc for LF.

gearhead,
I have decided to get class a/b amp due to THD spec issues as compared to class d amp and with the help of mr. av_phile1 opinion.I'm comparing same amp maker here so power rating measurement is not an issue since Rotel is known for their concervative power specs.The reason behind why THD is an issue for me because THD of rotel class d amp is 0.2% which is much higher than rotels conventional amp THD of only 0.03%.Correction, only below 1% THD is probably inaudible and 10% THD is very much noticeable especially at higher volume levels therefore 0.2% compared to 0.03% is an issue to me, well its just me.Dont get surprised with a bi-amp MS908 because ms908 will not allow you to bi-amp the tweeter alone. If you will check the terminals of ms908 it will allow you to bi-amp for HF (tweeter and mid/bass) and LF (10" long throw woofer).Mas ok kasi yung sonic experience in bi-amp mode and I can control bass using the volume control of amp connected to LF terminals of my ms908.

mikec,
I'm no audiophile but for me power is not the only deciding factor in choosing power amp. Syempre kailangan yung power nya is within the full bandwidth (20hz-20khz) and power is measured based on 8ohms impedance and the distortion is within limits (mas mababa ok, just me again).finally power should be in rms.Andyan na rin kung reputable yung maker, high current capability, toroidal power supply, symmetrical circuit layout.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Rotel RB1070 VS. RB1072 Stereo Amp
Post by: aHobbit on Jul 17, 2007 at 03:52 PM
what really bothers me is which system should I go to accomplished maximum performance at the cost I can afford.my plan is to get a single 200wpc amp or bi-amp of 70wpc for HF and 100wpc for LF.

gearhead,
The reason behind why THD is an issue for me because THD of rotel class d amp is 0.2% which is much higher than rotels conventional amp THD of only 0.03%.Correction, only below 1% THD is probably inaudible and 10% THD is very much noticeable especially at higher volume levels therefore 0.2% compared to 0.03% is an issue to me, well its just me.
...

I dont want to dampen your belief nor trust for any guru ... If THD of 0.2% matters to you in sound reproduction, I bet you are not using speakers with so much distortion than what your amplifier published! In fact, no speaker published their THD specs - there is no such thing. Too high to be published anyway.

And could you really tell that the amplifier is the one distorting and not the speaker when you hear your 10% distortion?

Am just asking ... all amp has 10% distortion level ... even clipping levels.

Of course, [its you only] you have valid reasons why you will have to trash one over the other. We need consumers like you for the 'high end' audio industry to survive, knowledgable in high current, torroidal, & circuit layout let alone those audio techno jargons. I operate on the same level if I want to trash one over the other.

Pardon my ignorance, what do you mean 'maximum performance'?
Title: Re: Rotel RB1070 VS. RB1072 Stereo Amp
Post by: bassman on Jul 18, 2007 at 12:29 AM
Mikec,
after reading again your reply maybe i misinterpret your suggestion. you're right I'll pick the wattage I prefer, maybe 200Wpc is the best. thanks!

aHobbit,
I mean the best sound reproduction as a result of my own listening acceptance test that is supported by specs and at the cost I can afford.
Title: Re: Rotel RB1070 VS. RB1072 Stereo Amp
Post by: aHobbit on Jul 18, 2007 at 09:50 AM

aHobbit,
I mean the best sound reproduction as a result of my own listening acceptance test that is supported by specs and at the cost I can afford.

I understand ... at the end of the day, it will always be the listening preference (habit) - that subjectivity in each of us. Unless of course you have all the tools to measure what those parameters are, I highly doubt whether you validated the specs to be such ... or you simply trusted those marketing specs typical of casual buyers.

IMHO, you can have at your hand nicely specd-on-paper gears, or even its true metrics (objective), and you still end up with a crappy sound (subjective). I hate to admit it before ... trying to be of substance, but lacking the proof thereof - unless of course your foundation is that "all marketing paper specs from reputable amp makers are correct"! If this is the case, you are just being consistent in your manner of proving things according to your subjectivity.

Enjoy your gears to be!  :)
Title: Re: Rotel RB1070 VS. RB1072 Stereo Amp
Post by: bassman on Jul 18, 2007 at 03:23 PM
Ahobbit,

well said, I just want to review it first spec wise and getting opinions from others who are familiar with it, still my bare ears will decide.

I'm just very cautious in my second audio coz cannot afford further upgrade and I want it something I could pass to my grand children hehehehe.

Thanks for all your suggestions.

Title: Re: Rotel RB1070 VS. RB1072 Stereo Amp
Post by: accastil on Jul 18, 2007 at 07:14 PM
i would have to agree with ahobbit. forget about the specs bro. listen more instead of reading more. of course the specs is important but far more important would be the satisfaction given to your own pair of ears :)

and by the way, there is no better place to have the audition than inside the room where you will be using the gear.
Title: Re: Rotel RB1070 VS. RB1072 Stereo Amp
Post by: bassman on Jul 18, 2007 at 10:30 PM
Sorry bro, but spec is important to me. I'll make sure that before I conduct listening acceptance, I know what I'm buying for my hard earned pesos.

....and spec will tell you the capability of your system for future reference

Does sound dimension will allow me to audition it at home?
Title: Re: Rotel RB1070 VS. RB1072 Stereo Amp
Post by: accastil on Jul 18, 2007 at 11:00 PM
that wud be fine...to each his own...they may if youd request politely or perhaps leave them the full amount and at least ask for return policy if di ka satisfied sa tunog.
Title: Re: Rotel RB1070 VS. RB1072 Stereo Amp
Post by: Narayan on Jul 24, 2007 at 09:52 PM
pasali konti :) bassman, if 200wpc is what you have in mind, then its the rb1080 that you should audition as i understand that the 1070 has lower wpc.
Title: Re: Rotel RB1070 VS. RB1072 Stereo Amp
Post by: bassman on Aug 02, 2007 at 09:43 PM
Narayan,

Thanks for correction. I decided to get the RB1070 (130wpc) in case na mabitin ipon na lang ulit kasi bridgeable naman sya to 330wpc.

To All,

Thanks for all your suggestions. I cant wait na mag sabado na. Ang ganda din ng NAD C162, C272, C542 kita ko kanina sa Spectra AV kaya lang kakahiya iaudition gusto ko sana marinig. Sarap siguro ng NAD and rotel under the same roof like Mr. Classicman.
Title: rotel ra-931mk II upgrade?
Post by: radiohead on Oct 15, 2007 at 03:21 PM
hi,

i currently have a rotel ra-931 mk II integrated amp powering tannoy m1 bookshelf speakers for an audio-only set up. i was just toying with the idea of upgrading/changing the amp...perhaps to attain a fuller bass sound. any suggestions? oh, and a phono line-in is a must....thanks!
Title: Re: rotel ra-931mk II upgrade?
Post by: romymartinez on Oct 15, 2007 at 05:39 PM
Sir radiohead,

You may try to PM gino who did an opamp upgrade of the Rotal 931MkII. He said that base become fuller with the upgrade.  :D
Title: Re: rotel ra-931mk II upgrade?
Post by: edwin on Oct 16, 2007 at 07:44 AM
hi,

i currently have a rotel ra-931 mk II integrated amp powering tannoy m1 bookshelf speakers for an audio-only set up. i was just toying with the idea of upgrading/changing the amp...perhaps to attain a fuller bass sound. any suggestions? oh, and a phono line-in is a must....thanks!

How much is your budget?
Title: Re: rotel ra-931mk II upgrade?
Post by: bassman on Oct 16, 2007 at 11:36 AM
If budget permits get a musical sub and hear the difference.

Title: Re: rotel ra-931mk II upgrade?
Post by: radiohead on Oct 16, 2007 at 04:14 PM
How much is your budget?

i really have no idea pa...i guess i just want to change amps para maiba naman. would you suggest going with separates, so i can get larger speakers in the future? how much would that set me back, just for an entry level separates set up (second hand)? actually for around P25-30k, what would be a nice speaker / amp combo? i listen to mostly to indie rock/ britpop btw. thanks!
Title: Re: rotel ra-931mk II upgrade?
Post by: bassman on Oct 16, 2007 at 09:36 PM
You can audition Nad separates or Cambridge Audio. Dont forget good CDP also.
Title: rotel prices in Singapore or HK?
Post by: kt on Oct 18, 2007 at 06:34 PM
hi guys! anybody knows how much rotels sa SG or HK specifically the RMB1075 or 1066? and kaya ba sya mauwe from balikbayan box dito satin? hehe tnx  ;D
Title: Re: rotel prices in Singapore or HK?
Post by: bhongskie on Oct 23, 2007 at 10:00 AM
hi guys! anybody knows how much rotels sa SG or HK specifically the RMB1075 or 1066? and kaya ba sya mauwe from balikbayan box dito satin? hehe tnx  ;D

bro last March the price for the RMB1075 in one of the shops at Adelphi was approx Singapore $1,000.  Could be cheaper elsewhere.  Some amps are priced at 40% off Philippine prices.

you can put the amp in a big trolley bag and have it as check in baggage para wala kang bayaran sa customs.  that's what i did and didnt pay a cent.  make sure you secure the amp inside the trolley bag. put clothes, styro, etc. to protect the amp.
Title: Re: rotel prices in Singapore or HK?
Post by: kt on Oct 23, 2007 at 12:20 PM
bro tnx for the info! did u just remove the amp from its box nalang?
Title: Re: rotel prices in Singapore or HK?
Post by: bhongskie on Oct 23, 2007 at 05:53 PM
bro tnx for the info! did u just remove the amp from its box nalang?

No, I placed the whole box inside a huge trolley bag then placed clothes all over as cushion.  Bili ka ng malaking trolley bag (very cheap sa carrefour).  Measure mo muna yung box diemnsions kung kasya sa trolley bag.
Title: Re: rotel prices in Singapore or HK?
Post by: kt on Oct 23, 2007 at 06:11 PM
tnx for the idea bro! hehe
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: leomar on May 03, 2008 at 05:15 PM
mga sir, pano po gumagana ung 12v trigger ng rotel?
may 12v output po ung yamaha 659 na gamit ko (control out 12v 15ma MAX), icoconnetct ko lang ba ung free na cable na kasama sa package ng rotel mula dun papunta sa 12v input ng rotel?

then ano ang magiging effect? hindi ko na kelangang manual on/off ung poweramp? ganun po ba un?
maraming salamat po mga gurus!
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: audiojunkie on May 03, 2008 at 05:31 PM
mga sir, pano po gumagana ung 12v trigger ng rotel?
may 12v output po ung yamaha 659 na gamit ko (control out 12v 15ma MAX), icoconnetct ko lang ba ung free na cable na kasama sa package ng rotel mula dun papunta sa 12v input ng rotel?

then ano ang magiging effect? hindi ko na kelangang manual on/off ung poweramp? ganun po ba un?
maraming salamat po mga gurus!

12v trigger works only if your preamp has same function to control the amp. If this activated, the amp has to keep ON all the time like standby, when you power ON the preamp will send few voltage power to wake it up. This priciple is same as SUB with auto ON & OFF function.   ;D

My preamp and amps have this facility but I prefer to turn them ON manually as safety measure.  :D
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: leomar on May 03, 2008 at 06:07 PM
12v trigger works only if your preamp has same function to control the amp. If this activated, the amp has to keep ON all the time like standby, when you power ON the preamp will send few voltage power to wake it up. This priciple is same as SUB with auto ON & OFF function.   ;D

My preamp and amps have this facility but I prefer to turn them ON manually as safety measure.  :D

ah ganun pala yun.. salamat sir! another knowledge gained! manual na lang din gagawin ko para safe din =)
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: leomar on May 04, 2008 at 09:02 AM
astig! another satisfied user!

parang nagiba ang dynamics ng sound... mas clear, mas detailed at MAS MALAKAS!! at least 10db than yamaha659 ang difference...
hindi ako nagsisi sa power amp, a very good investment in HT! astig talaga  ;D ;D
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: macdon on May 04, 2008 at 04:27 PM
I've been seriously considering this power amp but at 60k, medyo masakit sa bulsa ah ;D  May difference kaya eto sa SQ compared to Bada which is almost 3x cheaper? ???
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: audiojunkie on May 04, 2008 at 05:36 PM
astig! another satisfied user!

parang nagiba ang dynamics ng sound... mas clear, mas detailed at MAS MALAKAS!! at least 10db than yamaha659 ang difference...
hindi ako nagsisi sa power amp, a very good investment in HT! astig talaga  ;D ;D

Congratz! Sir another power amps believer.. you'll even more amaze in Bi-amping...
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: Reymer on May 05, 2008 at 11:55 PM
astig! another satisfied user!

parang nagiba ang dynamics ng sound... mas clear, mas detailed at MAS MALAKAS!! at least 10db than yamaha659 ang difference...
hindi ako nagsisi sa power amp, a very good investment in HT! astig talaga  ;D ;D

Wait till you upgrade your AVR, you'll be amazed even more with your 1075  :D. When I replaced my RXV659 with RXV2600  :o . Big difference talaga, the 1075 will really benefit from better processors.
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: leomar on May 06, 2008 at 07:54 AM
Wait till you upgrade your AVR, you'll be amazed even more with your 1075  :D. When I replaced my RXV659 with RXV2600  :o . Big difference talaga, the 1075 will really benefit from better processors.

wala ng pambili sa ngaun sir hehe
gusto ko sana yammy 1800, baka next year pa =)
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: leomar on May 07, 2008 at 04:07 PM
ah ganun pala yun.. salamat sir! another knowledge gained! manual na lang din gagawin ko para safe din =)


babawiin ko ung sinabi ko hehe
ginamit ko na ung 12v trigger, masyado yata akong tamad kaya gusto ko "automatic" na lang na kapag on na ung receiver, gigisingin na rin nya ung power amp... ayos pa naman sa ngaun  ;D
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: Mr.H on May 09, 2008 at 05:31 PM
I've been seriously considering this power amp but at 60k, medyo masakit sa bulsa ah ;D  May difference kaya eto sa SQ compared to Bada which is almost 3x cheaper? ???

we're on the same boat  macdon... ganyan din ang iniisip ko, gusto ng Rotel pero parang masakit sa bulsa hehehehe :D 

Bada o Rotel?  ??? ;D

Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: mike c on May 09, 2008 at 05:43 PM
kung lagyan ni matz ng 12v trigger yung BADA niya ... Rotel beater na po yun.
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: macdon on May 10, 2008 at 10:45 AM
we're on the same boat  macdon... ganyan din ang iniisip ko, gusto ng Rotel pero parang masakit sa bulsa hehehehe :D 

Bada o Rotel?  ??? ;D



Oo nga sir eh - mahirap din lunukin presyo ng Rotel amps dito sa atin ;D  Ano kaya sound quality difference.....if any? ???
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: macdon on May 10, 2008 at 10:49 AM
kung lagyan ni matz ng 12v trigger yung BADA niya ... Rotel beater na po yun.

Kindly correct me nalang po if I'm wrong - but is the 12v trigger a convenience feature in such a way that when you remotely turn on your processor - it also turns on the poweramp?

Oks lang naman sa akin to physically/manually turn on the poweramp button cguro ;D
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: mike c on May 10, 2008 at 11:44 AM
Kindly correct me nalang po if I'm wrong - but is the 12v trigger a convenience feature in such a way that when you remotely turn on your processor - it also turns on the poweramp?

Oks lang naman sa akin to physically/manually turn on the poweramp button cguro ;D

yes, yun lang po ang purpose nun.  dati sabi ko willing din ako mag manually turn on ng amps.  ngayon gusto ko na ng automated :) patanda ng patanda, patamad ng patamad.   ;D
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: macdon on May 10, 2008 at 11:53 AM
yes, yun lang po ang purpose nun.  dati sabi ko willing din ako mag manually turn on ng amps.  ngayon gusto ko na ng automated :) patanda ng patanda, patamad ng patamad.   ;D

Sir - kung mahabang pat-pat na may daliri sa dulo - pwede kaya? ahihihihi :D ;D Parang yung kay Mr. Bean ;D
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: av_phile1 on May 10, 2008 at 12:29 PM
yes, yun lang po ang purpose nun.  dati sabi ko willing din ako mag manually turn on ng amps.  ngayon gusto ko na ng automated :) patanda ng patanda, patamad ng patamad.   ;D

Maglalagay ka rin lang ng DVD or CD sa tray, e di i-ON mo na rin yung amp.  ;D
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: mike c on May 10, 2008 at 12:53 PM
ok lang pag movie ... lalagay talaga ako ng disc.

pero pag music, naka 500GB HD ako with PS3 ... so everything's by remote

:)

tapos pag yung sa tatay ko, di ko na matuturuan yun mag on nito, nito and nito ...

one click remote :) that's why i'm also considering the 1075 or 1070 for my HT.

macdon, im sure puwede yun :)
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: leomar on May 10, 2008 at 03:35 PM
saka iniisip ko rin, baka masira ung "spring" nung button o kaya lumuwag kaya gusto ko rin automatic ehehehe  ;D
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: audiojunkie on May 10, 2008 at 04:29 PM
yes, yun lang po ang purpose nun.  dati sabi ko willing din ako mag manually turn on ng amps.  ngayon gusto ko na ng automated :) patanda ng patanda, patamad ng patamad.   ;D

nahahalata na ang mga edad natin ah... seguro di na rin ako nalalayo sa inyo....  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: mike c on May 10, 2008 at 08:31 PM
haha, lahat naman po tayo tumatanda.  maybe i should have used "tumataba ako" instead of "tumatanda ako"

"habang pataba ako ng pataba, patamad ako ng patamad"   :-*
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: Mr.H on May 10, 2008 at 08:47 PM
saka iniisip ko rin, baka masira ung "spring" nung button o kaya lumuwag kaya gusto ko rin automatic ehehehe  ;D

pde din yung on/off switch nalang ng power strip ang gamitin hehehe :D (ganun gamit ko sa 2 behringer ko eh ;D)
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: Reymer on May 17, 2008 at 08:33 PM
haha, lahat naman po tayo tumatanda.  maybe i should have used "tumataba ako" instead of "tumatanda ako"

"habang pataba ako ng pataba, patamad ako ng patamad"   :-*

Masarap kasi mag-snack habang nanonood, kaya nakakataba lalo ;D
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: mike c on May 17, 2008 at 09:29 PM
tapos yung snack kahit 1 meter away lang, pinapakuha ko pa sa mrs.  ;D
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: Reymer on May 17, 2008 at 10:03 PM
tapos yung snack kahit 1 meter away lang, pinapakuha ko pa sa mrs.  ;D

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: eaferrer on May 18, 2008 at 01:24 PM
haha, lahat naman po tayo tumatanda.  maybe i should have used "tumataba ako" instead of "tumatanda ako"

"habang pataba ako ng pataba, patamad ako ng patamad"   :-*

Sir hehehe di po kaya kayo si MIKE ARROYO heheheh joke lng po...... kaso siya po habang tumataba, pataba din ng pataba ang bulsa ! YAIIKS!!!
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: audiojunkie on May 18, 2008 at 04:59 PM
tapos yung snack kahit 1 meter away lang, pinapakuha ko pa sa mrs.  ;D

sir, ano naman ang inuutos nyo ki yaya?.... joke din... po'...;D :D
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: JcCapco on May 18, 2008 at 06:01 PM
gud day!

mga sir,can i connect two amplifier to my cd player? an A/V receiver and Integrated amp. my cd player have two outputs w/c is the analog L&R and Digital coax out.. For the analog outs, I will connect my integrated amp and for the digital out will connect the A/V receiver. i will also use different speakers on each receiver.so when i'm into 2channel music i will use the integrated amp and when want a prologic music will switch to 5chnel receiver.. I figured out that the integrated amp is better in music than the A/V receiver. Hindi kaya masira yung receivers? or any bad effect on the other receiver not in use?? I need your advice....tnx
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: audiojunkie on May 18, 2008 at 06:11 PM
YES! you can do that nothing to worry, digital and analog outs are from different circuits.  :D
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: JcCapco on May 18, 2008 at 06:17 PM
YES! you can do that nothing to worry, digital and analog outs are from different circuits.  :D

thanks sir audiojunkie!
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: audiojunkie on May 18, 2008 at 06:24 PM
thanks sir audiojunkie!


you're welcome...

my DVD player is connected via digital coax and component video to preamp and the analog outs audio & composite video to TV, this option is anyone can watch movies on TV w/o using the system, esp. if i'm not home,(no worries for me).
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: mike c on May 19, 2008 at 06:00 PM
Sir hehehe di po kaya kayo si MIKE ARROYO heheheh joke lng po...... kaso siya po habang tumataba, pataba din ng pataba ang bulsa ! YAIIKS!!!

kung ako po si FG, sana po mamatay na ako ... pati pamilya ko.   :-X
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: Reymer on May 19, 2008 at 11:37 PM
kung ako po si FG, sana po mamatay na ako ... pati pamilya ko.   :-X


 :D :D :D
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: audiojunkie on May 19, 2008 at 11:47 PM
kung ako po si FG, sana po mamatay na ako ... pati pamilya ko.   :-X


isama mo na pati mga aliporis....  ;D   ;D  ;D
Title: Re: rotel 1075
Post by: John E. on May 20, 2008 at 10:26 AM
kung ako po si FG, sana po mamatay na ako ... pati pamilya ko.   :-X

ako din tumatanda na at tumataba pa  ;D di ka nag iisa sir mike...pero kung sakali man na ako din si FG sana mamatay na ako! alang alang sa pilipinas, sa mag PDVD members at taong mamayan na nag babayad ng tax twing kinsenas at katapusan ng bwan!!
Title: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Aug 05, 2008 at 02:53 PM
Anybody with this power amplifier?  Any issues with heat? Ok kaya eto i-pair sa Dali Ikon speakers ko?
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: mike c on Aug 05, 2008 at 03:12 PM
i have this amp, no problem with heat ... as long as you have at least 4" up top.

it meets its marketed specs and doubles down at 4ohms

unfortunately re: SQ, i am not a believer of signature sound ... i believe all properly designed amps sound the same.
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Aug 05, 2008 at 03:30 PM
i have this amp, no problem with heat ... as long as you have at least 4" up top.

it meets its marketed specs and doubles down at 4ohms

unfortunately re: SQ, i am not a believer of signature sound ... i believe all properly designed amps sound the same.

The reason why I will opt for this over the 1075 is because of space constraints and its already 7 channel.  I don't need to buy a 5 channel and a 2 channel amp anymore... Ok kaya eto i pair with my Dali Ikons?
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: mike c on Aug 05, 2008 at 03:36 PM
yes, exactly the same reasons i got this as well.

a 1075 + 1070 is almost as expensive

this one fits nicely in small spaces (as compared to the 1075 and 1070)

heat wise, hindi maluluto ang audio rack mo

-regarding the dali ikon or any speaker - i believe if the amp is stable to any load, it will play ANY speaker with no problem (granted you are within the SPL range of the wattage)

e.g. the front two channels on the 1077 is capable of 125w at 8 ohms, 250w at 4 ohms
the 5 other channels have 100w at 8 ohms and 200w at 4 ohms

as long as you make sure your amp and other equipment is capable, all SQ is 50% speaker and 50% your room acoustics 0% amp 0% cables 0% player 0% preamp
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Aug 05, 2008 at 03:52 PM
yes, exactly the same reasons i got this as well.

a 1075 + 1070 is almost as expensive

this one fits nicely in small spaces (as compared to the 1075 and 1070)

heat wise, hindi maluluto ang audio rack mo

-regarding the dali ikon or any speaker - i believe if the amp is stable to any load, it will play ANY speaker with no problem (granted you are within the SPL range of the wattage)

e.g. the front two channels on the 1077 is capable of 125w at 8 ohms, 250w at 4 ohms
the 5 other channels have 100w at 8 ohms and 200w at 4 ohms

as long as you make sure your amp and other equipment is capable, all SQ is 50% speaker and 50% your room acoustics 0% amp 0% cables 0% player 0% preamp

Thanks.  Will study the specs of my speakers muna pala before I buy this power amp..

When playing blu-ray with DTS-MA or Dolby TruHD audio, will these audio formats be outputted as such by any Power amp or kailangan capable ang power amp in decoding these hidef formats as well?  or let the AV Receiver decode these hidef formats and pass in on to the power amp for "amplification"? 
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: mike c on Aug 05, 2008 at 03:58 PM
the power amps are oblivious as to what you input :)

kahit karaoke pa ipasok mo :)

so to answer your q, yes, any amp can play even the hi def sound formats
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Aug 05, 2008 at 04:16 PM
Would you know how much ang 1077 dito sa atin?  Are there audio-video store selling it here?
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: STRIKER on Aug 05, 2008 at 04:33 PM

as long as you make sure your amp and other equipment is capable, all SQ is 50% speaker and 50% your room acoustics 0% amp 0% cables 0% player 0% preamp

pls be mindful with your claims.
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: mike c on Aug 05, 2008 at 04:42 PM
Would you know how much ang 1077 dito sa atin?  Are there audio-video store selling it here?

yes, may rotel importer dito.  i bought mine sa audioworld
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: mike c on Aug 05, 2008 at 04:44 PM
 ::)

haching!
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Aug 05, 2008 at 04:51 PM
yes, may rotel importer dito.  i bought mine sa audioworld

thanks.. will try to inquire.. marami 2nd hand sa audiogon pero concern ko kasi 110-120 volts sila..
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: mike c on Aug 05, 2008 at 04:55 PM
thanks.. will try to inquire.. marami 2nd hand sa audiogon pero concern ko kasi 110-120 volts sila..

me too, i'm very afraid of 110v because i regularly move equipment, baka makalimutan ko and masaksak sa 220v.
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: mike c on Aug 05, 2008 at 05:55 PM
pls be mindful with your claims.

i am very mindful.  thank you.

but you have the right to your opinion, and i have the right to dispense information.

amps
http://www.matrixhifi.com/contenedor_ppec_eng.htm

http://bruce.coppola.name/audio/Amp_Sound.pdf
http://www.hometheaterfocus.com/receivers/amplifier-sound-quality.aspx

assorted
http://www.theaudiocritic.com/downloads/article_1.pdf

wire challenge - unbeaten mind you
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/calling-bulls**t/james-randi-offers-1-million-if-audiophiles-can-prove-7250-speaker-cables-are-better-305549.php
(replace ** with hi )
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: bumblebee on Aug 05, 2008 at 06:22 PM
I would agree that the room and speakers have greater impact than the other components. Maybe 50% room, 35% speakers and 15% for the rest.
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: leomar on Aug 05, 2008 at 06:49 PM
magkasing presyo ata ang 2*1075 sa 1077  ;D
pero kung may space constraints, 1077 will be the solution kasi manipis lang siya...

hindi ko lang alam kung ano ang effect ng 2 1075 on a bi-ampable speaker hehe
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: mike c on Aug 05, 2008 at 08:55 PM
i hear the b&o modules used in the 1077 for the front two channels are stable to 2 ohms, though i've never seen third party tests, i'd say that would be a good reason to go 1077 over 1075 - but if i could turn back time, i'd probably get the 1095.

Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Aug 05, 2008 at 08:59 PM
How much na kaya ang 1077 dito sa atin?  Anybody knows of anybody selling a 1077?  ;D
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: mike c on Aug 05, 2008 at 09:03 PM
SRP 123500 php

of course may discount pa yan
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: mike c on Aug 05, 2008 at 09:05 PM
magkasing presyo ata ang 2*1075 sa 1077  ;D
pero kung may space constraints, 1077 will be the solution kasi manipis lang siya...

hindi ko lang alam kung ano ang effect ng 2 1075 on a bi-ampable speaker hehe

i've tried bi-amping with my 1077.  no audible difference.

also, if you consider that the upper binding posts power the tweeter, which needs about 1-2w ; you'd actually have 100w to the woofers and 2w to the tweeters for a grand total of 102w :)
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Aug 05, 2008 at 09:10 PM
SRP 123500 php

of course may discount pa yan

Wow.. Expensive pala dito sa tin..
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: leomar on Aug 05, 2008 at 09:45 PM
i've tried bi-amping with my 1077.  no audible difference.

also, if you consider that the upper binding posts power the tweeter, which needs about 1-2w ; you'd actually have 100w to the woofers and 2w to the tweeters for a grand total of 102w :)

so kung may 120w per channel into 8ohms ka na amp, mas logical na mag-biwire instead of bi-amp, tama po ba?
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: mike c on Aug 05, 2008 at 10:15 PM
so kung may 120w per channel into 8ohms ka na amp, mas logical na mag-biwire instead of bi-amp, tama po ba?

it won't hurt, but it won't help either.  :)

but in theory, if bi-amping is inaudible, bi-wiring would be even more inaudible.

buy a bigger amp na lang  ;)
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: STRIKER on Aug 07, 2008 at 01:35 PM

 SQ is 50% speaker and 50% your room acoustics 0% amp 0% cables 0% player 0% preamp

sir eto po claim nyo.....
so you mean given that everything is the same, if i play music from the tuner function of my receiver and i use a cd.... based on your claim they should sound the same?

or to be more specific if i use a branded RCA and compare it with a generic freebie RCA they should sound the same?
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: ivannn on Aug 07, 2008 at 01:48 PM
@STRIKER

medyo malayo na ata if you use the tuner for comparison to a cd. :)
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: mike c on Aug 07, 2008 at 02:16 PM
sir eto po claim nyo.....
so you mean given that everything is the same, if i play music from the tuner function of my receiver and i use a cd.... based on your claim they should sound the same?

medyo hindi nag-connect.  medyo lang.  pero kaya pala nag o-object ka. 

or to be more specific if i use a branded RCA and compare it with a generic freebie RCA they should sound the same?

if there is no interference on the crappy free RCA, they should sound the same.

please read yung matrixhifi that i linked.  they used wooden bangko, crappy RCA and cheapy (but well designed) amp - no one was able to distinguish
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: iiinas on Aug 07, 2008 at 03:05 PM
sir eto po claim nyo.....
so you mean given that everything is the same, if i play music from the tuner function of my receiver and i use a cd.... based on your claim they should sound the same?

or to be more specific if i use a branded RCA and compare it with a generic freebie RCA they should sound the same?

everything is the same, so even the source should be. sound from the receiver and one playing from a cdp will definitely have audible difference.
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: aHobbit on Aug 07, 2008 at 03:07 PM
...
as long as you make sure your amp and other equipment is capable, all SQ is 50% speaker and 50% your room acoustics 0% amp 0% cables 0% player 0% preamp
...

 8)

Indeed ... and I may add ... the others should be the one mindful of their claims ... and without any doubt, Rotel 1077 is also one of them, a good power amplifier!
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: STRIKER on Aug 07, 2008 at 03:20 PM
ivan - yun talaga point ko. kasi acc to him it should not matter.

medyo OT na tayo sorry po.... the rotel is a very good amp, how i wish na one day i could get a chance to own one. to be more specific the rotel 1077.
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: macdon on Aug 07, 2008 at 03:21 PM
Anybody with this power amplifier?  Any issues with heat? Ok kaya eto i-pair sa Dali Ikon speakers ko?

Doc Jun - last month in Sing I was offered a Rotel RMB 1085 class D 100wpcx5 for S$1300 - napaisip ako eh ;D
Too bad, I didnt have time to audition it.

Since the RMB 1077 has 2ch more (7ch), then I would say baka nasa S$2k cguro ang presyo ::)
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: aHobbit on Aug 07, 2008 at 03:22 PM
...
so you mean given that everything is the same, if i play music from the tuner function of my receiver and i use a cd.... based on your claim they should sound the same?
....

am not mike c ... but will answer ur q ... player will not impact on your sq if you use tuner  ;D

kidding aside, mike c is down right into the issue. My equation is 1/3 - 1/3 - 1/3 (source program, not player - speaker - listening room).

So if it is your CD vs tuner, it has difference.

But for your audiophile gear, 50-50 (speaker/listening room). The trash you load to your CD player, is the trash you will hear ++distortion of your speakers & listening room. Even if you change your player, it will be the same trash you will hear with the ++D in it. The amp/pre-amp/player being the good guys in the chain.


...
or to be more specific if i use a branded RCA and compare it with a generic freebie RCA they should sound the same?
...

This is a very old barbers' story sir. Proven to be a non-issue in SQ, unless you are comparing dilapidated cables - hands up na ko!


To give you more local discussion ...
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=47979.420


Welcome to PinoyDVD


Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: leomar on Aug 07, 2008 at 04:28 PM
Doc Jun - last month in Sing I was offered a Rotel RMB 1085 class D 100wpcx5 for S$1300 - napaisip ako eh ;D
Too bad, I didnt have time to audition it.

Since the RMB 1077 has 2ch more (7ch), then I would say baka nasa S$2k cguro ang presyo ::)

S$2.6k daw sir, kaya currently 2 1075 ang presyo niya  ;D
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: macdon on Aug 07, 2008 at 04:32 PM
S$2.6k daw sir, kaya currently 2 1075 ang presyo niya  ;D

Ganun? :o

Taragis - 10ch na halaga nun ah! :D ;D

Dun na ako sa 10ch..........yung extra, pang zone 2 or additional stereo ;)
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: bumblebee on Aug 07, 2008 at 04:40 PM
Why are digital amps so much more expensive than their Class AB counterparts?
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Aug 07, 2008 at 05:21 PM
S$2.6k daw sir, kaya currently 2 1075 ang presyo niya  ;D

Ang mahal talga dito sa Asia region mga gears.. Sa Audiogon.com nasa $1,200.00 ang used 1077.. Kaso ang problem ang warranty if ever may problem.. Tapos 110-120v pa pag galing sa US..  >:( >:( >:(  Although sabi naman sa Rotel.com, you can actually convert the 120v to 220-240v by tweaking something inside.. un lang mag hire ka pa ng magaling na technician for that..
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 07, 2008 at 05:27 PM
Ang mahal talga dito sa Asia region mga gears.. Sa Audiogon.com nasa $1,200.00 ang used 1077..

But doc, thats a pre-owned price..  :-\
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: john5479 on Aug 07, 2008 at 05:48 PM
I find the highs polite on the ice modules used in the rotels, advantage would be space and power consumption per watt :) There are other brands to consider as far as class d is concerned, also there are still far more expensive linear amps as far as i'm concerned.

If i had a rotel 1075 i would fix my speaker placement and room acoustics before changing my amps.

As for biamping, it depends if the speaker is designed for it, you might get better results switching to a higher power amp instead. Ideally biamping requres two amps with the same gain and an outboard electronic crossover.
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: macdon on Aug 07, 2008 at 06:31 PM
Ang mahal talga dito sa Asia region mga gears.. Sa Audiogon.com nasa $1,200.00 ang used 1077.. Kaso ang problem ang warranty if ever may problem.. Tapos 110-120v pa pag galing sa US..  >:( >:( >:(  Although sabi naman sa Rotel.com, you can actually convert the 120v to 220-240v by tweaking something inside.. un lang mag hire ka pa ng magaling na technician for that..

Doc - ganyan talaga going ng preowned. But thats an amp - sabi nga ni brader matz, amps last a lifetime ;)

About the 110v-220v, sabi nga sa akin ni jojod - the parts made for the 220v countries & 110v countries is basically the same part lang as Rotel's Toroidal can take both powers. Its just a matter of tapping wires.

When I planned on buying a Rotel poweramp sa states, I contacted George Miller of B&W Group of companies, USA. The conversion of 110v to 220v is straightforward. All you need is a tech Manual/schematic diagram of the specific amp - which Mr. Miller sent thru email.

As for the conversion - kayang-kaya yan ni Jojod  ;) ;D

Below is the email of Mr. Miller to my question about the conversion:


Hi Mardon;
 
Converting Rotel equipment for 220 volt operation is a fairly simple procedure.
 
If you can give me the model number perhaps I can give you some more specific information.
 
If you would like to do the conversion yourself I can send you the tech manual however this would void you warranty if it still applies.
I would also recommend that you be familiar with voltage conversions and have a good deal of technical knowledge. On a scale of “1” to “10” I would rate a voltage conversion as a “7”.
 
 
Best Regards;

George Miller
B&W Group USA
Technical Support Specialist
54 Concord Street
North Reading Ma. 01864
1-800-370-3741 Ext 236
[email protected]

If however you do the conversion yourself - it voids the warranty. Ipagawa mo sa Rotel dealer dito para hindi void......but price may be steep ::)
 
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Aug 07, 2008 at 08:08 PM
Magkano kaya ang voltage conversion dito ng Rotel Power Amp?  Have you done the conversion yourself as per the email of Miller?  Magkano kaya rate ni JoJoD?   ;D ;D ;D  Gustong-gusto ko na bilhin yong nasa Audiogon.com..
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: macdon on Aug 07, 2008 at 08:20 PM
Magkano kaya ang voltage conversion dito ng Rotel Power Amp?  Have you done the conversion yourself as per the email of Miller?  Magkano kaya rate ni JoJoD?   ;D ;D ;D  Gustong-gusto ko na bilhin yong nasa Audiogon.com..

Doc - if conversion lang problem mo, no worries - madali lang yan. I already saw the tech manual & could understand a bit kahit wala ako alam sa electronics.
Inaantay pa nga namin yung amp ko eh - mukang delayed ang barko :P

Talk to Jojod about it - I'm sure madaling kausap yan si brader ;) Bigyan mo lang ng chicks......ay este, chiksilog yan magkakasundo na kayo ahihihihi :D ;D
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Aug 07, 2008 at 08:28 PM
Doc - if conversion lang problem mo, no worries - madali lang yan. I already saw the tech manual & could understand a bit kahit wala ako alam sa electronics.
Inaantay pa nga namin yung amp ko eh - mukang delayed ang barko :P

Talk to Jojod about it - I'm sure madaling kausap yan si brader ;) Bigyan mo lang ng chicks......ay este, chiksilog yan magkakasundo na kayo ahihihihi :D ;D

1077 din binili mo? 
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: macdon on Aug 07, 2008 at 08:29 PM
1077 din binili mo? 

Nope, just a 2ch poweramp.
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: xxx-s on Aug 07, 2008 at 10:32 PM
mike c.


just curious... why in hind sight would you say that you should have gotten the 1095 over the 1077?

Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: mike c on Aug 08, 2008 at 08:22 AM
mike c.


just curious... why in hind sight would you say that you should have gotten the 1095 over the 1077?



to be honest, majority of my decision in buying the 1077 was because of what I read on htguide.com (rotel sub forum) - sabi nila super ganda daw nito tumunog, better than the 1095 and any other rotel amp save the 1090.  baka pagtimplahin ka pa ng kape.  when i got it, i found that I prefer more power for more SPL than the supposed better SQ.  the 1095 has 200wpc, though still less than what i am currently using (360wpc) it would still have been a better investment (for me) since my 1077 is now parked in my bedroom with just two channels being used.
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Aug 08, 2008 at 11:52 AM
to be honest, majority of my decision in buying the 1077 was because of what I read on htguide.com (rotel sub forum) - sabi nila super ganda daw nito tumunog, better than the 1095 and any other rotel amp save the 1090.  baka pagtimplahin ka pa ng kape.  when i got it, i found that I prefer more power for more SPL than the supposed better SQ.  the 1095 has 200wpc, though still less than what i am currently using (360wpc) it would still have been a better investment (for me) since my 1077 is now parked in my bedroom with just two channels being used.

wala ka ba plan ibenta 1077 mo bro?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: mike c on Aug 08, 2008 at 01:26 PM
wala ka ba plan ibenta 1077 mo bro?  ;D ;D ;D

may mga nagtatanong nga e, pag nakikita nila sa bedroom ko :)

pero sayang kasi e, hindi naman nag we-wear and tear and amp.
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: leomar on Aug 08, 2008 at 06:04 PM
pero sayang kasi e, hindi naman nag we-wear and tear and amp.

nice  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: LETOR on Aug 10, 2008 at 03:07 PM
Anybody with this power amplifier?  Any issues with heat? Ok kaya eto i-pair sa Dali Ikon speakers ko?
In one of the reviews of this power amp, Dali Ikon speakers were used. Check this out. http://www.rotel.com/UK/Products/ProductReviews.htm?prod=1
Check the Mar 2007 review by Barry Willis of The Absolute Sound
Title: Rotel AV Receivers
Post by: macdon on Sep 02, 2008 at 08:33 AM
It seems Rotel will be coming out with its new "15 series" AVRs, amps & pre-pro:

http://www.nicollpr.com/ROTEL/Files/15%20Series/Rotel_15_Series_Press_Release.pdf

All "Class D" technology & utilizing new codecs ;D
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers
Post by: milken on Sep 05, 2008 at 08:24 PM
Finally. Rotel is incorporating HDMI 1.3 and can decode lossless HD audio.  Price is steep as expected!  :D
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: main_man04 on Sep 15, 2008 at 03:10 PM
SRP 123500 php

of course may discount pa yan


sir mike may idea kaba how much yung ROTEL RA-1070 amp?

thanks.... ;D
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: dobler on Sep 15, 2008 at 03:13 PM

sir mike may idea kaba how much yung ROTEL RA-1070 amp?

thanks.... ;D

43k quote sakin ni E-reply
Title: Re: Rotel 1077 - Is this a good Power amplifier?
Post by: main_man04 on Sep 16, 2008 at 11:41 AM
43... san kaya meron nyan sir balak ko kasi mag up grade eh... thanks uli...
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers
Post by: jay2 on Oct 27, 2008 at 04:48 PM




(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj237/jay_jdaci/rsx1560_sr.jpg)


will be arriving next month SRP P130k  8)


(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj237/jay_jdaci/rsp1570_sr.jpg)

SRP P110k   ::)
Title: New Rotel RA-1520
Post by: lakambini on May 14, 2009 at 04:53 PM
(http://www.rotel.com/images/managed/productimages/fullsize/integrated%20amplifiers/ra1520_front.jpg)

Gentlemen:

Any idea how much does this cost?

Tnx
Title: Re: New Rotel RA-1520
Post by: Tootsie on Sep 01, 2009 at 04:35 PM
RA 1520 is around 44k
Title: Re: New Rotel RA-1520
Post by: ayosbathere on Apr 26, 2010 at 01:50 PM
RA 1520 is around 44k

saan meron? contact info please
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: obsi on Jun 02, 2010 at 12:38 PM
Bro have you read this review on the RB985

http://www.homecinemachoice.com/reviews/hccreviews/PowerAmps/Rotel/RotelRB985.php?action=setwidth&NewSiteWidth=

Thanks


This link doesn't work, anywhere else i can find that review?  TIA  ;D
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: lrdcly on Jul 08, 2010 at 08:49 AM
ladies and gents ;D any idea kung magkano yung RC-06 and RB-06? can i connect my cd player directly sa amplifier? hindi na muna ko gagamit ng pre-amp. thanks
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 08, 2010 at 09:21 AM
ladies and gents ;D any idea kung magkano yung RC-06 and RB-06? can i connect my cd player directly sa amplifier? hindi na muna ko gagamit ng pre-amp. thanks

I think this could work if the output of the impedance player matches the input impedance of the amp and the cd player's voume control works.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: av_phile1 on Jul 08, 2010 at 10:12 AM
CD players have enough output voltage in the analog domain to drive a power amp, often in the range of 300mV to 1V RMS. In fact, unity-gain pre-amps preferred by serious audiophiles, apart from a phono preamp, simply consists of a passive input selector and a volume control.  So yes, if your CD player has an output control which can serve as a volume control, you can connect it directly to a commercial stereo main  power amp.  It's actually the preferred route taken by audio purists.

Just be aware of the trade offs,  You won't get the convenience of an input selection feature.  Also no digital processing of DTS CDs.  Depending on the power amp, you may not be able to drive it to its rated power especially if the power was rated at 2VRMS input.  But no matter, you don't listen at full power.
 
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: lrdcly on Jul 08, 2010 at 02:47 PM
thanks guys. ano ma recommend nyo na cdp and a 2ch amp from rotel? un budget friendly lang ;D
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 08, 2010 at 03:09 PM
Depends on how you define budget friendly :) Entry level is RCD-06.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: meister_r on Oct 07, 2010 at 07:54 PM
Hi mga gurus, ask ko lang kung how much the rmb 1075? San kaya maka pag audition? any idea rin mga sir kung how much ito? TIA! ;D
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: macdon on Oct 07, 2010 at 08:16 PM
Hi mga gurus, ask ko lang kung how much the rmb 1075? San kaya maka pag audition? any idea rin mga sir kung how much ito? TIA! ;D

SRP 60-70k. Try Sound Dimensions in Parksquare, Mkti.  752-7802

or you can call the distributor "Apolinario & Associates" - 371-8128
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: meister_r on Oct 08, 2010 at 06:55 PM
SRP 60-70k. Try Sound Dimensions in Parksquare, Mkti.  752-7802

or you can call the distributor "Apolinario & Associates" - 371-8128

Thanks sir macdon for the info! mukhang ipon mode muna ito.. ;D
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: Stagea on Aug 29, 2011 at 04:59 PM
Buhayin natin ang tulog na thread. Marami na bagong Rotels sa local market. :)

One of the interesting products na bagong labas:
(http://www.rotel.com/images/managed/productimages/fullsize/2010/rsx1500front.jpg)
RCX-1500
http://www.rotel.com/UK/Products/ProductDetails.htm?id=497 (http://www.rotel.com/UK/Products/ProductDetails.htm?id=497)

The Arcam Solo Neo has a new rival at its price point. :)

I can think of 2 other similar one-box systems with excellent credentials, the Naim Uniti (higher priced) and the Marantz M-CR603 (lower price segment).
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Oct 28, 2011 at 08:54 PM
We'll be having Rotel products very soon!  :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: Stagea on Oct 31, 2011 at 04:17 AM
We'll be having Rotel products very soon!  :)

Congrats! :) Their Class-D power amps can handle a lot of current, while the Class-AB models deliver great grip. :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: james16 on Nov 28, 2011 at 06:53 PM
recently acquired this:

Rotel RA-930BX intg. amp

(http://images.bidorbuy.co.za/user_images/340/318340_100517210920_Rote_front_2.JPG)

sa wakas may sound ulit coming from my AE Evo 3, matagal napahinga ng mabaneta ko yung hk receiver ko
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Nov 29, 2011 at 08:31 AM
We have the new Rotel integrated amps available in the shop. :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: mike c on Nov 29, 2011 at 08:32 AM
We have the new Rotel integrated amps available in the shop. :)

may pricelist ba sir marc?
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Nov 29, 2011 at 08:34 AM
may pricelist ba sir marc?

Let me fix it. Will post by tonight. :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Dec 12, 2011 at 10:15 AM
we now carry rotel products. :)


SE SERIES
RA-04SE - 20,500 SRP
RA-06SE - 29,425 SRP
RCD-O6SE - 26,750 SRP

15 SERIES
RA-1520 - 50,000 SRP


pm for other models and for special pdvd discount. :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: Stagea on Dec 13, 2011 at 07:21 AM
we now carry rotel products. :)


SE SERIES
RA-04SE - 20,500 SRP
RA-06SE - 29,425 SRP
RCD-O6SE - 26,750 SRP

15 SERIES
RA-1520 - 50,000 SRP


pm for other models and for special pdvd discount. :)

Nice! The RA-1520 is a worthy amp for 50k. One can get good current capacity and lots of detail for this moderate outlay. :)

Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: edwin on Dec 18, 2011 at 07:46 PM
recently acquired this:

Rotel RA-930BX intg. amp

(http://images.bidorbuy.co.za/user_images/340/318340_100517210920_Rote_front_2.JPG)

sa wakas may sound ulit coming from my AE Evo 3, matagal napahinga ng mabaneta ko yung hk receiver ko

Nice int amp. For sure mas maganda pa itong tumunog sa hk avr mo :D.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: mike c on Dec 18, 2011 at 08:21 PM
we now carry rotel products. :)


SE SERIES
RA-04SE - 20,500 SRP
RA-06SE - 29,425 SRP
RCD-O6SE - 26,750 SRP

15 SERIES
RA-1520 - 50,000 SRP


pm for other models and for special pdvd discount. :)

taste ko pang 1520.  budget ko pang 04  ;D
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: james16 on Dec 24, 2011 at 07:47 AM
Nice int amp. For sure mas maganda pa itong tumunog sa hk avr mo :D.

correct :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: niceNslow on Dec 24, 2011 at 10:39 AM
recently acquired this:

Rotel RA-930BX intg. amp

(http://images.bidorbuy.co.za/user_images/340/318340_100517210920_Rote_front_2.JPG)

sa wakas may sound ulit coming from my AE Evo 3, matagal napahinga ng mabaneta ko yung hk receiver ko

magkano score mo dyan sir?
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: niceNslow on Dec 24, 2011 at 10:40 AM
ano ba entry level at budget friendly na integrated amplifier ng rotel ngayon?
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: Conan on Dec 24, 2011 at 12:11 PM
ano ba entry level at budget friendly na integrated amplifier ng rotel ngayon?

RA 04 and RA 04SE.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: james16 on Dec 25, 2011 at 08:56 AM
magkano score mo dyan sir?

pm ko na lang sa inyo..  ;D
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: jerrylodi on Jan 16, 2012 at 09:00 AM
Mga sirs, mag mmatch po ba yung rotel ra-04se w/ marantz cdp 6003 using b&w 685 speakers? TIA :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Jan 18, 2012 at 10:20 AM
rotel and b&w matches very well. :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Jan 19, 2012 at 08:36 PM
We have the Rotel rsx-1560 available for audition. :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: [r0n1n] on Jan 20, 2012 at 10:10 AM
We have the Rotel rsx-1560 available for audition. :)

sir marc pa-PM naman po ng 1560 at 1550 if available din. thanks!
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Jan 20, 2012 at 10:22 PM
sir marc pa-PM naman po ng 1560 at 1550 if available din. thanks!

sent you pm :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Jan 20, 2012 at 10:24 PM
the rotel rsx-1560 is quite impressive. despite the lack of audyssey calibration, it's able to convey a lot of detail and impact expected from it. i highly recommend giving it a listen while we have it. :)

Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: Stagea on Jan 21, 2012 at 04:46 AM
We have the Rotel rsx-1560 available for audition. :)

Nice. This is a true high current AVR.

It is a match to the Pioneer Class-D Elites when it comes to output stiffness. :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: Courage on Jan 21, 2012 at 02:50 PM
the rotel rsx-1560 is quite impressive. despite the lack of audyssey calibration, it's able to convey a lot of detail and impact expected from it. i highly recommend giving it a listen while we have it. :)



Ang pogi nito... Siguradong mahal... 100k+++?
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Jan 21, 2012 at 05:49 PM
Ang pogi nito... Siguradong mahal... 100k+++?

Yup. :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Feb 07, 2012 at 06:56 PM
Rotel ra04se and ra06se available. :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Feb 29, 2012 at 11:44 PM
Come check out the Rotel ra04se. Sounds great with an srp of only 20.5k. :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Mar 26, 2012 at 09:21 PM
last unit rotel ra04se available.

2 units of rotel ra1520 available. :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: defmacro on Apr 12, 2012 at 04:29 PM
last unit rotel ra04se available.

2 units of rotel ra1520 available. :)

Hello,
Is this still available (ra04se)? can you PM me the price please?
I am in Cebu by the way, do you deliver it here?

I am also looking at Marantz PM6004, would be good if you have this in stock.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: TeeGoY on Apr 20, 2012 at 11:09 AM
How are the vintage 1970-ish Rotel's?  Were they any good?  I found a couple of ads for vintage Rotel's and was wondering if any of them were worth purchasing for stereo use.  :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: armymanhaha on May 06, 2012 at 05:43 AM
Im planning to get a sealed powered subwoofer. Will the pre-out of a rotel RA-1520 be sufficient enough to use as a sub-out?
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: Stagea on May 06, 2012 at 06:20 AM
Im planning to get a sealed powered subwoofer. Will the pre-out of a rotel RA-1520 be sufficient enough to use as a sub-out?

If your subwoofer has an adjustable LPF that can match your speaker's LF rolloff in your room, then you'd probably be okay. A continuous phase control knob can also be useful for integration purposes.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: haboky on May 12, 2012 at 10:31 AM
Hello,
Is this still available (ra04se)? can you PM me the price please?
I am in Cebu by the way, do you deliver it here?

I am also looking at Marantz PM6004, would be good if you have this in stock.


bai defmacro, what speakers will you match with the rotels? i was able to audition them paired b&w 865 in soundroom sm. Sound was good but on the warm side or maybe because the cdp used was just an entry level pioneer.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: haboky on May 12, 2012 at 12:38 PM
are rotels still made in japan?  :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: armymanhaha on May 12, 2012 at 01:18 PM
may nabasa akong ganyang tanong thru email sa rotel. rotel gave an honest, and revealing answer. wala ako sa bahay ngayon, i can repost that email mamaya but to answer your question, rotels are made in china na.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: haboky on May 12, 2012 at 10:15 PM
may nabasa akong ganyang tanong thru email sa rotel. rotel gave an honest, and revealing answer. wala ako sa bahay ngayon, i can repost that email mamaya but to answer your question, rotels are made in china na.

thanks @armymanhaha for the information.. i hope there won't be any quality issues even thou they are already made in china.. i plan to get ra-06se..  :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: armymanhaha on May 13, 2012 at 03:52 AM
"The Rotel Company is a family owned company who has been in business for 40
years. Although presently located in China, the company is actually operated
through the Tokyo office and is therefore seen as a Japanese operation. The
Japanese government is very conscious that Japanese companies are fair to
their Chinese employees and have a system in place that ensures a minimum
standard.

The present factory is in Baoan, southern China however very soon Rotel and
its employees will be moving to Zhuhai close to Macao, where a new purpose
built 9000 sqmt factory and 200 room condominium are being built. Perhaps
the thought of living at the factory condominium and eating with your
coworkers would be considered unacceptable in the west but it's a big plus
in China as the majority of the employees send money home for their families
and welcome the 'pay rise'.

While China is not like anywhere else, the people are the same and all
aspire to attain the norm - home, auto, etc. They have TV's and lots of off
time. They mostly live in the condo units because they come from all over
China. Certainly, the wages are less than in the west but taken within the
context of China, Rotel employees earn a fair wage and have good living
conditions. They are free to change jobs at will and actually the employer
cannot let staff go without going through a somewhat complicated process.
And, city regulations do not allow overtime of more than 20%.

Problems seem to be more apparent when companies in Europe and America carry
goods made in China by local manufacturers who do not need to be so careful
how they look after their people, particularly when they are being driven to
meet the lowest price. Worse, of course, is that you can't write to these
offending companies because you don't know who they are. Rotel may not be in
the big leagues, but we do operate our business in the open.

While the labor is sourced in China many of the component parts are sourced
from Europe, Japan and America Rotel uses parts from Wellwyn, Vishay, Analog
Devices, Cirrus Logic and Toshiba and others. Being in a Chinese base
enables the Rotel engineers to recommend and use only the very best parts to
build our products and we don't try to cut corners by using unbranded
inexpensive parts from Chinese vendors. Rotel winds the transformers for
their models not because it's 'cheaper' but so they can use a better
component to make a better sound.

Whatever you decide to buy, I can assure you that if you do buy Rotel
equipment, it will provide many years of musical enjoyment we have more and
more testimonials every year from the worldwide press confirming our
commitment to better sound!

Please feel free to contact us if you have any further questions.

Best Regards,"
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: armymanhaha on May 13, 2012 at 03:53 AM
my ra-1520 is flawless in terms of its build. nakakahinayang nga pag nakikita kong nagiging dusty siya, im not a worthy owner.  ;D
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: haboky on May 13, 2012 at 07:55 AM
my ra-1520 is flawless in terms of its build. nakakahinayang nga pag nakikita kong nagiging dusty siya, im not a worthy owner.  ;D

maganda sana ung ra-1520 kaso lampas na sa budget ko.. hehe.. malaki ba difference in terms sound quality compared to SE series?  :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: haboky on May 13, 2012 at 07:56 AM
"The Rotel Company is a family owned company who has been in business for 40
years. Although presently located in China, the company is actually operated
through the Tokyo office and is therefore seen as a Japanese operation. The
Japanese government is very conscious that Japanese companies are fair to
their Chinese employees and have a system in place that ensures a minimum
standard.

The present factory is in Baoan, southern China however very soon Rotel and
its employees will be moving to Zhuhai close to Macao, where a new purpose
built 9000 sqmt factory and 200 room condominium are being built. Perhaps
the thought of living at the factory condominium and eating with your
coworkers would be considered unacceptable in the west but it's a big plus
in China as the majority of the employees send money home for their families
and welcome the 'pay rise'.

While China is not like anywhere else, the people are the same and all
aspire to attain the norm - home, auto, etc. They have TV's and lots of off
time. They mostly live in the condo units because they come from all over
China. Certainly, the wages are less than in the west but taken within the
context of China, Rotel employees earn a fair wage and have good living
conditions. They are free to change jobs at will and actually the employer
cannot let staff go without going through a somewhat complicated process.
And, city regulations do not allow overtime of more than 20%.

Problems seem to be more apparent when companies in Europe and America carry
goods made in China by local manufacturers who do not need to be so careful
how they look after their people, particularly when they are being driven to
meet the lowest price. Worse, of course, is that you can't write to these
offending companies because you don't know who they are. Rotel may not be in
the big leagues, but we do operate our business in the open.

While the labor is sourced in China many of the component parts are sourced
from Europe, Japan and America Rotel uses parts from Wellwyn, Vishay, Analog
Devices, Cirrus Logic and Toshiba and others. Being in a Chinese base
enables the Rotel engineers to recommend and use only the very best parts to
build our products and we don't try to cut corners by using unbranded
inexpensive parts from Chinese vendors. Rotel winds the transformers for
their models not because it's 'cheaper' but so they can use a better
component to make a better sound.

Whatever you decide to buy, I can assure you that if you do buy Rotel
equipment, it will provide many years of musical enjoyment we have more and
more testimonials every year from the worldwide press confirming our
commitment to better sound!

Please feel free to contact us if you have any further questions.

Best Regards,"


thanks for the repost sir..  :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: Stagea on May 20, 2012 at 08:06 AM
They have the RCX-1500 in MLY/AV Shop. Yesterday was my third encounter with this all-in-one.

It's a very decent solution, and an amazing bargain for what it can do.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: haboky on May 20, 2012 at 10:30 PM
match ba ung rotel sa polk audio RTiA series?
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: mikeer2002ph on May 25, 2012 at 12:22 AM
my ra-1520 is flawless in terms of its build. nakakahinayang nga pag nakikita kong nagiging dusty siya, im not a worthy owner.  ;D

I can relate.

I actually had my mother in law (Japz's mom) who's good with sewing/stiching make a custom cover for the the RA-06SE/RCD06SE made of flanella. Had the same material sewn for the LSi9s since naaalikabukan when left by itself without coverings.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

maganda sana ung ra-1520 kaso lampas na sa budget ko.. hehe.. malaki ba difference in terms sound quality compared to SE series?  :)

Pricewise, there's a 15-18K difference between the RA-06SE and the RA-1520


Soundwise, the RA-1520 sounds a bit more refined than the RA-06SE overall, RA-06SE is bass plenty, while RA-1520 has better sounding midrange and treble.


Technical differences between the RA-06SE vs. RA-1520:

1. Predriver stage: RA-06SE = single board for the 2 channels , RA-1520 = individual board for each channel

2. Phono stage: RA-06SE = IC (chip) based phono stage, RA-1520 = discrete (JFET) based phono stage

3. Tape Monitor Out: RA-06SE =  1 Tape Monitor , RA-1520 = 2 Tape Monitors

4. Tone Control: RA-06SE =  +/- 6dB bass and treble control , RA-1520 = +/- 3dB bass and treble control

5. Front Panel: RA-06SE = Plastic , RA-1520 = Brushed aluminum

6. Power Output: RA-06SE = 70W RMS per channel , RA-1520 = 60W RMS per channel

7. Speaker Terminals: RA-06SE = basic gold plated 5 way binding post that accepts 16AWG bare speaker cable (I had issues using the binding post with my bare AWG 12 speaker cable = requiring me to get banana plugs for the speaker cables to work), RA-1520 = Premium gold plated 5 way binding post that accepts 12-10AWG bare speaker cable

8. Power Amp Power Supply Capacitors: RA-06SE = BHC Slit Foil Capacitors , RA-1520 = BHC T-Network (Slit Foil Capacitors on steroids)

The rest (Torroidal transformer, output stage transistors and configuration, brand of parts used all throughout are the same)

If you ask me, both RA-06SE and RA-1520 are bang for the buck amps considering the technology/parts stuffed within it, just so happens that the RA-1520 has a more 'purist' appeal hence the premium price.

Also, What!HiFi rates the RA-1520 with 5 stars, while the RA-06SE only gets 4 stars. *For some people in the audio community, this in itself is the price to pay.

*pun intended at baka me magreact nanaman

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

match ba ung rotel sa polk audio RTiA series?

It may be too bright (Polk RTiAs are known to be bright, and the Rotels are also bright) , but listen to it first with your Polk RTiA model

There's the tone control anyway.

As for me, the reason I shifted from Harman/Kardon to Rotel is to cajole the LSi9's ring radiators to the brightness I need. Harman/Kardon HK3470 finally showed its dark side with the LSi9s LOL

If you own an RTiA(x) which is already relatively bright, pairing it with the Rotel may even ante up the brightness to the point of harshness.

key here is audition..audition..audition.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: haboky on May 25, 2012 at 07:50 AM
I can relate.

I actually had my mother in law (Japz's mom) who's good with sewing/stiching make a custom cover for the the RA-06SE/RCD06SE made of flanella. Had the same material sewn for the LSi9s since naaalikabukan when left by itself without coverings.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Pricewise, there's a 15-18K difference between the RA-06SE and the RA-1520


Soundwise, the RA-1520 sounds a bit more refined than the RA-06SE overall, RA-06SE is bass plenty, while RA-1520 has better sounding midrange and treble.


Technical differences between the RA-06SE vs. RA-1520:

1. Predriver stage: RA-06SE = single board for the 2 channels , RA-1520 = individual board for each channel

2. Phono stage: RA-06SE = IC (chip) based phono stage, RA-1520 = discrete (JFET) based phono stage

3. Tape Monitor Out: RA-06SE =  1 Tape Monitor , RA-1520 = 2 Tape Monitors

4. Tone Control: RA-06SE =  +/- 6dB bass and treble control , RA-1520 = +/- 3dB bass and treble control

5. Front Panel: RA-06SE = Plastic , RA-1520 = Brushed aluminum

6. Power Output: RA-06SE = 70W RMS per channel , RA-1520 = 60W RMS per channel

7. Speaker Terminals: RA-06SE = basic gold plated 5 way binding post that accepts 16AWG bare speaker cable (I had issues using the binding post with my bare AWG 12 speaker cable = requiring me to get banana plugs for the speaker cables to work), RA-1520 = Premium gold plated 5 way binding post that accepts 12-10AWG bare speaker cable

8. Power Amp Power Supply Capacitors: RA-06SE = BHC Slit Foil Capacitors , RA-1520 = BHC T-Network (Slit Foil Capacitors on steroids)

The rest (Torroidal transformer, output stage transistors and configuration, brand of parts used all throughout are the same)

If you ask me, both RA-06SE and RA-1520 are bang for the buck amps considering the technology/parts stuffed within it, just so happens that the RA-1520 has a more 'purist' appeal hence the premium price.

Also, What!HiFi rates the RA-1520 with 5 stars, while the RA-06SE only gets 4 stars. *For some people in the audio community, this in itself is the price to pay.

*pun intended at baka me magreact nanaman

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

It may be too bright (Polk RTiAs are known to be bright, and the Rotels are also bright) , but listen to it first with your Polk RTiA model

There's the tone control anyway.

As for me, the reason I shifted from Harman/Kardon to Rotel is to cajole the LSi9's ring radiators to the brightness I need. Harman/Kardon HK3470 finally showed its dark side with the LSi9s LOL

If you own an RTiA(x) which is already relatively bright, pairing it with the Rotel may even ante up the brightness to the point of harshness.

key here is audition..audition..audition.

thank you very much sir mikeer2002ph for the thorough comparison between models.. now i'm a bit confused which model to get.. hehehe.. Ra-06se is really bang for the buck.. my preference is on the bright and detailed sound (say in your face sound). I find rotel + b&w 865 a bit warm..  :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: mikeer2002ph on May 25, 2012 at 09:38 AM
thank you very much sir mikeer2002ph for the thorough comparison between models.. now i'm a bit confused which model to get.. hehehe.. Ra-06se is really bang for the buck.. my preference is on the bright and detailed sound (say in your face sound). I find rotel + b&w 865 a bit warm..  :)

Audition the RA-06SE with the RTiAs, The brightness should appeal to you then
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: haboky on May 25, 2012 at 12:40 PM
Audition the RA-06SE with the RTiAs, The brightness should appeal to you then
thanks..
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: mikeer2002ph on May 25, 2012 at 11:02 PM
thanks..

You're welcome! =)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Jun 06, 2012 at 04:47 PM
We have the following units available:

Ra04se
Rao6se
Ra1520

Rc1550
Rb1552
Rb1582

:)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Jun 13, 2012 at 02:58 PM
We have the Rotel rc1550 and rb1582 combo set up at THE GREY MARKET. :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: x59 on Jul 16, 2012 at 11:12 AM
Pa-PM naman po ng price ng RA-04SE. Thanks
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Jul 16, 2012 at 03:59 PM
Pa-PM naman po ng price ng RA-04SE. Thanks

sent you pm :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: ricky on Jul 16, 2012 at 05:42 PM
Ang ganda ng mga bagong labas na models. Marc kumpleto yata line sa store mo :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Jul 19, 2012 at 09:00 AM
Ang ganda ng mga bagong labas na models. Marc kumpleto yata line sa store mo :)

we're hoping to get the new rb1592 as well. :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: jcfernandez on Jul 19, 2012 at 07:11 PM
Sir, im from dagupan city, and on hunt for my audio setup. can you please send me pricelist of your rotel,marantz, and NAD amplifier/receiver.   Can you recommend amplifier best suited for GoldenEar  Aon3?
TIA
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Jul 19, 2012 at 08:25 PM
Sir, im from dagupan city, and on hunt for my audio setup. can you please send me pricelist of your rotel,marantz, and NAD amplifier/receiver.   Can you recommend amplifier best suited for GoldenEar  Aon3?
TIA

for the aon3 i suggest going for the rotel ra1520. but if you can afford it go for the rotel rc1550 with rb1582 combo. :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: mikeer2002ph on Jul 19, 2012 at 09:12 PM
we're hoping to get the new rb1592 as well. :)

The Rotel RB1592 is a monster dual mono power amp

to wit:

(http://www.audio-romanesque.com/rb1592/rb1592no01.jpg)

(http://www.audio-romanesque.com/rb1592/rb1592no02.jpg)

(http://www.audio-romanesque.com/rb1592/rb1592no03.jpg)

(http://www.audio-romanesque.com/rb1592/rb1592no05.jpg)

(http://www.audio-romanesque.com/rb1592/rb1592no06.jpg)

(http://www.audio-romanesque.com/rb1592/rb1592no04.jpg)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: Stagea on Jul 19, 2012 at 09:43 PM
The Rotel RB1592 is a monster dual mono power amp

I heard it's largely based on the RB-1090. The RB-1090 did quite well during its time.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: mikeer2002ph on Jul 19, 2012 at 09:48 PM
I heard it's largely based on the RB-1090. The RB-1090 did quite well during its time.

yep, a rehash akin to the 1080 then and the 1582 now.

although I have never seen someone with a 1090 here, only in SG and HK.

Anyway,

Interesting porn pics of a 1090 being 'maintained'

(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/223137_2307230926832_1431080466_32685081_4664233_n.jpg)
Dual torroids and the bottom/rear panel

(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/252014_2307231166838_1431080466_32685082_2474150_n.jpg)
Right Channel

(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/284260_2307231246840_1431080466_32685083_1015784_n.jpg)
Left Channel

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/267289_2307231366843_1431080466_32685084_1264038_n.jpg)
Slit Foil Capacitor Bank

(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/285574_2307231566848_1431080466_32685085_4972890_n.jpg)
This is what I miss with the old 10xx amps = the very industrial (heatsink effect) front panel
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jul 20, 2012 at 12:54 PM
bro mikee ang lalake ng torroids.....kaingit.....
sarap siguro tumunog nyan
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Jul 23, 2012 at 09:30 AM
last unit ra1520 available. :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Aug 23, 2012 at 08:03 PM
trying to bring in a set of rotel rc1580 and rotel rb1592 combo. anyone interested to audition? :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Aug 28, 2012 at 08:14 AM
Rotel DAC coming soon. :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: whill_ on Aug 31, 2012 at 02:19 PM
Rotel DAC coming soon. :)


yun oh, may DAC na kailan kaya darating yan...  ;D
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Sep 03, 2012 at 12:25 PM
rotel DAC review. :)



http://www.witchdoctor.co.nz/index.php/2012/05/rotel-rdd-06-dac-review/
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: whill_ on Sep 04, 2012 at 08:49 AM
how much kaya ito Sir Marc when it lands here. :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Sep 04, 2012 at 08:26 PM
how much kaya ito Sir Marc when it lands here. :)

25-30k siguro. :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Sep 05, 2012 at 04:06 PM
ROTEL RB-1592

(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff26/marcyao/ROTELRB1592.jpg)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Sep 13, 2012 at 09:49 AM
ROTEL RB-1592

(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff26/marcyao/ROTELRB1592.jpg)

now available for audition. :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: shoktongxxx on Oct 15, 2012 at 09:06 PM
Rotel DAC coming soon. :)
sir meron na ba available?
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Oct 15, 2012 at 09:33 PM
sir meron na ba available?

Hopefully before end of the month. :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: shoktongxxx on Oct 15, 2012 at 09:36 PM
Hopefully before end of the month. :)
nice, more power sir..thanks! ;)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: shoktongxxx on Oct 15, 2012 at 09:45 PM
(http://clefhifi.com.au/catalog/images/Rotel%20RDD06.jpg)

gusto ko ganito..black.  O0
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: synchro_01 on Oct 18, 2012 at 06:09 PM
Re the new Rotel amps....are they digital in design? Do they sound much better than the previous behemoths that they have to offer?
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: Stagea on Oct 23, 2012 at 02:17 AM
Re the new Rotel amps....are they digital in design? Do they sound much better than the previous behemoths that they have to offer?

Most are still conventional Class-AB, except for the Icepower-based models. Icepower designs are still analogue, but they run Class-D topology.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: synchro_01 on Oct 23, 2012 at 03:12 PM
Most are still conventional Class-AB, except for the Icepower-based models. Icepower designs are still analogue, but they run Class-D topology.


I see. Thanks for answering my question. Many people say that the class D topology is the future of amp designs. I marvel at the compact design and efficiency of those amps though I'm not quite sure how they stack up sound wise to the old designs.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: mikeer2002ph on Oct 23, 2012 at 03:58 PM
I know its off topic pero since napagusapan naman ang RDD-06...

Here's my porn collection for it:

(http://www.audio-romanesque.com/rdd06.files/rdd06no00.jpg)

(http://www.audio-romanesque.com/rdd06.files/rdd06no001.jpg)

(http://www.audio-romanesque.com/rdd06.files/rdd06no01.jpg)

(http://www.audio-romanesque.com/rdd06.files/rdd06no02.jpg)

(http://www.audio-romanesque.com/rdd06.files/rdd06no03.jpg)

(http://www.audio-romanesque.com/rdd06.files/rdd06no04.jpg)

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: shoktongxxx on Oct 24, 2012 at 01:26 AM
^woot! salamat sa pics paps.. :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: Stagea on Oct 24, 2012 at 02:22 AM
I see. Thanks for answering my question. Many people say that the class D topology is the future of amp designs. I marvel at the compact design and efficiency of those amps though I'm not quite sure how they stack up sound wise to the old designs.

You're welcome, sir. Just like conventional linear amplifiers, there are good ones and there are bad ones. :)

Mark Levinson, Roksan, Lyngdorf, TaCT, NuForce, NAD, PS Audio, Peachtree, Jeff Rowland, Bel Canto, Vazari Audio, Wyred4Sound, Wadia, Sonneteer, Anthem, Bryston, Spectron, Sonos, Meridian, Primare, Audio Research, Pro-Ject, Cary, and so many others are dabbling with Class D because of the advantages that you mentioned. I don't think many of them would risk their reputation with a poor product. The mainstream Japanese and Korean brands are also onboard for the most part.

Full-range Class D is gathering quite a bit of support in the mobile audio environment. Cars and portable devices don't have much power to spare, and the high efficiency of Class-D devices make the most out of it (plus of course it makes the devices more compact and cooler-running).
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Oct 30, 2012 at 06:38 PM
we have rotel separates on sale. pm me if interested. :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Nov 12, 2012 at 09:38 AM
rotel DAC now available for audition at MLY. :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Nov 14, 2012 at 07:32 PM
new stock have arrived.

rotel rc1550, rotel rb1552, rotel rb1582. black finish. :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: nesty on Nov 15, 2012 at 08:10 PM
Yung RA12/11 Sir kailan kayo magka stock?
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Nov 16, 2012 at 02:06 PM
Yung RA12/11 Sir kailan kayo magka stock?

No stock yet. You might want a rotel ra06se partnered with the rotel DAC. :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: fatboyslim on Dec 08, 2012 at 08:53 AM
What would be the best CDP that would pair up with RA06SE?
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Dec 08, 2012 at 09:44 AM
What would be the best CDP that would pair up with RA06SE?

Rotel Rcd06se. :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Dec 11, 2012 at 12:08 AM
check out the rotel rdd-06 DAC hooked up to the rotel rc1550 pre amp and rotel rb1582 power amp. :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: Lynn on Jan 20, 2013 at 10:43 PM
Just Sharing my Rotel RA-04SE.

I am very happy on this Amp.

Solid build (sana lang steel aluminum yun mga nob), lahat ng gusto kong input meron (lalo't na yun Media Player at Aux2), for future yun phono input naman. For the 40watts not bad na rin para i-drive nya yun PSB Image B6. Ganda ng Low's at Mid's, issue lang yun High minsan matalas na sa tenga.

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a346/hshaun05/408767_468895993167201_721964436_n.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a346/hshaun05/64590_468896003167200_1236787816_n.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a346/hshaun05/406006_468896206500513_1498331257_n.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a346/hshaun05/431190_468896603167140_1424960452_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 21, 2013 at 07:43 PM
For a typical room size, that's an exquisite choice for an integrated amp.  Slim but powerful.   
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: mikeer2002ph on Jan 21, 2013 at 08:16 PM
Just Sharing my Rotel RA-04SE.

I am very happy on this Amp.

Solid build (sana lang steel aluminum yun mga nob), lahat ng gusto kong input meron (lalo't na yun Media Player at Aux2), for future yun phono input naman. For the 40watts not bad na rin para i-drive nya yun PSB Image B6. Ganda ng Low's at Mid's, issue lang yun High minsan matalas na sa tenga.


They (Rotel) have to cut costs somewhere to stay competitive hence I can forgive them for the use of plastic knobs, cheaper speaker binding posts on the 06SE series - as compared to the higher model 15XX series which is brushed aluminum all the way

Consideration here is they did not neuter the internal circuitry where it matters the most, or downgrade the quality and quantity of parts used in the construction/design of the amp.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: labuyo888 on Jan 21, 2013 at 08:33 PM
rotel DAC now available for audition at MLY. :)
how much is the rotel dac sir?
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: musicbob on Feb 01, 2013 at 09:06 AM
Hi sirs. I'm using a RA06Se amp for almost 2 years. My first time to use this brand of an amp and very satisfied which perfectly fits my sound preference especially for my music audio listening pleasure. I have a very simple and basic set up, Nad C541i cdp, REga RP1 TT and Monitor Audio BX2 bookshelf speakers. Unfortunately this last few weeks, the unit won't work after turning it on although the blue lights on buttons are glowing bright. At first I have to wait for several minutes ( 5 to 10 mins.) to " warm up" and would play which is tolerable. But as days go by the warm up period gets longer and longer. Now it takes more than an hour!!!. This is very annoying. I really don't know if this is the characteristic of this brand after years of use or I'm just missing something to get this right. Your advise and help will be greatly appreciated. Have an nice day and thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: synchro_01 on Feb 01, 2013 at 09:48 AM
Music bob,

As a first hand user of Rptel gear I would say that isn't not normal. Once you turn the unit on it cycles through power up and a self diagnostic mode. Anything wrong with the connections or the unit itself then it goes into protect mode. From the box until now the CDP, preamp and amp that we are using all cycles up within 5 seconds or so before it is ready. Mind you its been 6 years old already since new. Waiting for it to power up for an hour isn't normal.  Have it checked by a qualified Rotel tech before anything worse happens.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: musicbob on Feb 01, 2013 at 07:00 PM
Music bob,

As a first hand user of Rptel gear I would say that isn't not normal. Once you turn the unit on it cycles through power up and a self diagnostic mode. Anything wrong with the connections or the unit itself then it goes into protect mode. From the box until now the CDP, preamp and amp that we are using all cycles up within 5 seconds or so before it is ready. Mind you its been 6 years old already since new. Waiting for it to power up for an hour isn't normal.  Have it checked by a qualified Rotel tech before anything worse happens.

Hi, Sir synchro. Thanks for your inputs. This ain't normal I agree with you.  Sadly Rotel's quality seems not as good as its sound. Or maybe I'm just the unlucky one to have this poor quality unit. I will have this checked for sure.  Any good and reliable repair shop you can recommend will be highly appreciated. Tks bro.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Feb 01, 2013 at 11:58 PM
Hi, Sir synchro. Thanks for your inputs. This ain't normal I agree with you.  Sadly Rotel's quality seems not as good as its sound. Or maybe I'm just the unlucky one to have this poor quality unit. I will have this checked for sure.  Any good and reliable repair shop you can recommend will be highly appreciated. Tks bro.

we can have the rotel distributor check it out. :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Feb 10, 2013 at 09:30 AM
Hi Marc, I want the RB 1592! O0 

Credit terms, 10 years to pay. >:D

This should come with a free supporter brief ;D ;D
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: mikeer2002ph on Feb 10, 2013 at 06:10 PM
LOL!
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: stevesonk on Feb 12, 2013 at 03:56 PM
Yung RA12/11 Sir kailan kayo magka stock?
how much po ang package deal ng mga rotel sir..??
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: stevesonk on Feb 13, 2013 at 10:32 PM
Yung RA12/11 Sir kailan kayo magka stock?
pards...how much ung rotel rb1582 lang..??
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: armymanhaha on Feb 14, 2013 at 05:15 AM
may 1090 naka post sa sulit 80k O0
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: stevesonk on Feb 18, 2013 at 05:06 PM
ty for the info ^_^
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: docelmo on Feb 24, 2013 at 09:48 PM
Rotel RA04 SE...on Home audition courtesy of sir tormentor!
(http://i678.photobucket.com/albums/vv150/docelmo/rotel1_zpsbed45b24.jpg)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: mikeer2002ph on Mar 03, 2013 at 12:38 PM
Rotel RA04 SE...on Home audition courtesy of sir tormentor!
(http://i678.photobucket.com/albums/vv150/docelmo/rotel1_zpsbed45b24.jpg)

Looks like that Black RA04SE is travelling places. =)

anyway, here is my share of updated pics

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/150761_10200183979816739_1394330552_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: Hammerheart on Mar 03, 2013 at 02:58 PM
Hehe I'm going for a higher power to feed my floorstanders mikee. :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: avshop on Mar 03, 2013 at 03:37 PM
Hehe I'm going for a higher power to feed my floorstanders mikee. :)

Go for rotel separates. :)
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: stevesonk on Mar 05, 2013 at 10:49 PM
price list po ng mga rotel please... ^_^
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: Lynn on Apr 25, 2013 at 11:39 AM
HI guys, paano nga pala ang pre-amp and power amp combo? si pre-amp RA06SE mag process ng signal then lalabas kay RB1582 na 200w, meaning ba nito 200watts ang pupunta kay speaker or plus 70watts dahil kasama si RA06SE.

Also gusto ko sana mag Bi-amp. may dalawa kasi ako Amp, issue ko lang yun source ko... paano yun need ko pa ng dalawang iPod then dapat sabay ko sila play... nabasa ko kasi eh need pa ng external crossover.

Thanks
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: mikeer2002ph on Apr 26, 2013 at 11:39 AM
HI guys, paano nga pala ang pre-amp and power amp combo? si pre-amp RA06SE mag process ng signal then lalabas kay RB1582 na 200w, meaning ba nito 200watts ang pupunta kay speaker or plus 70watts dahil kasama si RA06SE.

Also gusto ko sana mag Bi-amp. may dalawa kasi ako Amp, issue ko lang yun source ko... paano yun need ko pa ng dalawang iPod then dapat sabay ko sila play... nabasa ko kasi eh need pa ng external crossover.

Thanks
Pure Preamp
If you use the RA06SE as pure preamp, preamp lang sya, so it only processes inputs from your CD/LineIn/Phono then passes it to the RB1582 power amp via the pre-outs. Speaker selector switch is set to off

The RA06SE's 70W power amp stage isnt used at all. 200W all comes from the RB1582.

==============
Preamp (BiAmp)
Pwede din namang bi amp mode for the Rotels = RA06SE for tweeters + RB1582 for woofers. Speaker selector switch is set to A

What you do is simply take out the biamp/biwire jumper strip from your speaker, and hookup the tweeters to the RA06SE, then the woofers to the RB1582.

RA06SE's 70W goes to the tweeters, RB1582's 200W goes to the woofers

====================
Preamp (Speaker 1/Zone 1 + Speaker 2/Zone2)
Another one of my experiments on the Rotels = RA06SE powers speaker pair # 1 (small bookshelf) and the RB1582 powers speaker pair # 2 (big bookshelf or floorstander). Speaker Selector switch is A

So its possible to have 2 pairs of speakers, each connected differently which can be placed sa ibang room/zone

Small bookshelf powered by the 70W of the RA06SE - sa bathroom or kitchen or bedroom or balcony
Big bookshelf/floorstander powered by the 200W of the RB1582 - sa living room

only problem with this is 1 source lang so what you hear with the RB1582 is also what you hear with the RA06SE.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: Lynn on Apr 26, 2013 at 11:47 AM
Pure Preamp
If you use the RA06SE as pure preamp, preamp lang sya, so it only processes inputs from your CD/LineIn/Phono then passes it to the RB1582 power amp via the pre-outs. Speaker selector switch is set to off

The RA06SE's 70W power amp stage isnt used at all. 200W all comes from the RB1582.

==============
Preamp (BiAmp)
Pwede din namang bi amp mode for the Rotels = RA06SE for tweeters + RB1582 for woofers. Speaker selector switch is set to A

What you do is simply take out the biamp/biwire jumper strip from your speaker, and hookup the tweeters to the RA06SE, then the woofers to the RB1582.

RA06SE's 70W goes to the tweeters, RB1582's 200W goes to the woofers

====================
Preamp (Speaker 1/Zone 1 + Speaker 2/Zone2)
Another one of my experiments on the Rotels = RA06SE powers speaker pair # 1 (small bookshelf) and the RB1582 powers speaker pair # 2 (big bookshelf or floorstander). Speaker Selector switch is A

So its possible to have 2 pairs of speakers, each connected differently which can be placed sa ibang room/zone

Small bookshelf powered by the 70W of the RA06SE - sa bathroom or kitchen or bedroom or balcony
Big bookshelf/floorstander powered by the 200W of the RB1582 - sa living room

only problem with this is 1 source lang so what you hear with the RB1582 is also what you hear with the RA06SE.

Mike, paano kung meron ako Rotel 04 then HK 3390. let say si 04 sa LF then HK sa HF. issue ko yun pagpasok ng signal. let say gamit ko eh iPod via LOD to RCA. paano?


Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: mikeer2002ph on Apr 26, 2013 at 12:09 PM
oh, for the HK 3390, you have to take out the preamp/power amp jumper sa likod. This jumper connects the preamp and the poweramp inside the 3390 together

(http://images.frys.com/art/product/alt_shots/5621901_1.jpg)

so in this case, the signal would have to go from the RA04SE (connect your ipod via rca in aux), then connect the preout of the RA04SE to the power amp input of the 3390 (i think they still call it main in - yan yung nakalagay sa HK3470 ko dati) then connect the LF to your 04SE (speaker a), HF to your 3390 (speaker a). make sure your volume control on both amps are on minimum and then turn on.

by the way, in this configuration, everything is controlled from the RA04SE including volume. The 3390 simply becomes a poweramp (the 3390's preamp functions are now disconnected so wala nang silbi yung volume control sa 3390).
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: Lynn on Apr 26, 2013 at 12:26 PM
oh, for the HK 3390, you have to take out the preamp/power amp jumper sa likod. This jumper connects the preamp and the poweramp inside the 3390 together

(http://images.frys.com/art/product/alt_shots/5621901_1.jpg)

so in this case, the signal would have to go from the RA04SE (connect your ipod via rca in aux), then connect the preout of the RA04SE to the power amp input of the 3390 (i think they still call it main in - yan yung nakalagay sa HK3470 ko dati) then connect the LF to your 04SE (speaker a), HF to your 3390 (speaker a). make sure your volume control on both amps are on minimum and then turn on.

by the way, in this configuration, everything is controlled from the RA04SE including volume. The 3390 simply becomes a poweramp (the 3390's preamp functions are now disconnected so wala nang silbi yung volume control sa 3390).

galing... thank Mike! how about sa Onkyo 313 avr? pwd din b? same pattern sa 3390?
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: mikeer2002ph on Apr 26, 2013 at 12:49 PM
ay sa Onkyo 313 wala atang provision yun for using the avr's power amp section.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: Lynn on Apr 27, 2013 at 12:20 AM
ay sa Onkyo 313 wala atang provision yun for using the avr's power amp section.

Salamat brader!
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: h.man on May 06, 2013 at 02:33 PM
Gudpm sir baka u might be interested in upgrading ur amp para wala mismatch. ;D I have a Rotel power amp RB1080 na bagay sa preamp nyu sir. Mine is black w/ silver plate sa gitna, 35k neg. po. Made in japan,220v, 9/10 condition, no issues, no repair. Pki-check po ads ko dito sa market for more details thanks! I-reserve ko na po ba?  ^-^
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: Hammerheart on May 17, 2013 at 03:39 PM
Enjoying my rotels.
Rb 1080 power amp
Rc 1550 pre amp
Rcd 06se cd player

On Monitor Audio Bronze BR6
Music varies from audiophile music to rock, to thrash/death metal.

 The bass of br6 is excellently controlled by rb1080. Sound is big without fatigue, music goes loud (within tolerable volume of course) without shouting.

Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: blackd70s on Jul 08, 2013 at 11:27 AM
Sorry I maybe OT but do you guys know where i can get hold of a 1050 Remote Control? I currently cannot tweak my 1066 Processor since the remote conked out. Brought the remote at Sound Dimension (a Rotel Distributor/ Reseller) and they told me it cant be repaired anymore.

Or is there anybody who can lend me their remote for a day so that I can copy it via another Learning RC?

Salamat Sirs!
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: rochie on Jul 08, 2013 at 02:20 PM
Sorry I maybe OT but do you guys know where i can get hold of a 1050 Remote Control? I currently cannot tweak my 1066 Processor since the remote conked out. Brought the remote at Sound Dimension (a Rotel Distributor/ Reseller) and they told me it cant be repaired anymore.

Or is there anybody who can lend me their remote for a day so that I can copy it via another Learning RC?

Salamat Sirs!

bro if ever yo you get one pa pm naman ako,i am also looking for the remote of 1066 prpcessor.
Title: Re: Rotel AV Receivers/Amplifiers
Post by: mikeer2002ph on Jul 09, 2013 at 12:49 AM
I think Marc (AVShop) still has an RR-1050 remote for a Rotel av processor. you may want to get in touch with him.