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DVD Forum => DVD-ROM & DVD Backup => Topic started by: Dowals on Dec 01, 2005 at 10:35 AM
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Need your expert advise guys :-\
I recently purchased a desktop pc with the following specs:
Processor: Pentium 4 2.66 Ghz
Motherboard: Foxconn 661FX LGA (integrated - video SiS 661FX Rev 01 w/ shared 128mb memory)
Memory: 512mb DDR pc333
CD Drive: LITE-ON DVD ROM/CD Writer
HDD: 40gb Seagate
The current diver for the motherboard intaller is directX 9.0b, I've been trying to update it to directX9.0c for two weeks already, so far i've been unsuccessful. I've tried using the generic installers from ATI, Inno3D, the ones from my office pc. I even tried using actual installers from the games itself. :P
please help me update it.
TIA
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sir kung naka win_xp po kayo, try installing sp2, dx9c default dx niya (plus other nice patches)
HTH 8)
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sir kung naka win_xp po kayo, try installing sp2, dx9c default dx niya (plus other nice patches)
HTH 8)
Thanks, but i'm currently running on win_xp sp2. would it be possible that the sp2 installer is defective?
would it be possible also that the integrated video does not support directx 9.0c?
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sir i think sp2 installs dx9.0c. can you try this:
start->run->"dxdiag"
what version of dx is installed?
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sir Dowals, after googling around, i think your chipset, "mirage" is not a dx9 part. :( but you can still install dx9.0c
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what exactly do u mean when u say you "can't install it"??
does it show an error message?
i tried running a distribution installer of directx9.0c (downloaded from microsoft.com) on an sp2 installed machine... and it "seemed" like it didn't install kasi it "finished" before it even started. the mobo was also foxconn (winfast) and the driver disc that came with it also had directx9.0b. (if you try to install that over sp2... it won't install either.) but if you run "dxdiag"... 9.0c na pala ang naka-install. check it first... baka without you realizing it... 9.0c ka na pala all this time. ;D
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start->run->"dxdiag"
what version of dx is installed?
tried that sir stac, directX 9.0b is currently installed
what exactly do u mean when u say you "can't install it"??
does it show an error message?
i tried running a distribution installer of directx9.0c (downloaded from microsoft.com) on an sp2 installed machine... and it "seemed" like it didn't install kasi it "finished" before it even started. the mobo was also foxconn (winfast) and the driver disc that came with it also had directx9.0b. (if you try to install that over sp2... it won't install either.) but if you run "dxdiag"... 9.0c na pala ang naka-install. check it first... baka without you realizing it... 9.0c ka na pala all this time. ;D
That's the same thing happened to me sir, except the upgrading to 9.0b to 9.0c. I have reformatted it (the pc)last night hoping that if i install the directX 9.0c (not the installer of 9.0b that was included) it will be upgraded na. It's been a frustrating past two weekends for me already :'(
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Hi Dowals,
You sure you have all the requirements for the 9.0c? What's your OS pala?
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Hi Dowals,
You sure you have all the requirements for the 9.0c? What's your OS pala?
I'm running on winxp sp2
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I'm running on winxp sp2
No offense ha, but is it genuine (not pirated)? According to microsoft.com, the OS needs to be so.
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No offense ha, but is it genuine (not pirated)? According to microsoft.com, the OS needs to be so.
i don't think genuine or not is the issue here... the fact he was able to install sp2 means the CD-key is at least legit or not yet blacklisted.
i just checked the directx website and there aren't really any harware requirements listed... as long as you run win98 or higher, pwede dapat.
this is very strange....
just wondering... why do u need to manually install directx9.0c pa? i think simply installing SP2 will install it automatically. i guess the next question is... are you installing from an winxp SP2 installer or from a regular winxp installer then manually installing the service packs?
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i don't think genuine or not is the issue here... the fact he was able to install sp2 means the CD-key is at least legit or not yet blacklisted.
i just checked the directx website and there aren't really any harware requirements listed... as long as you run win98 or higher, pwede dapat.
this is very strange....
Yes, I agree. But I recall reading about how to make OS installers w/ SP's already in them. i just hope the key starts w/ "FCKGW" ;D Pedeng gawaan ng paraan yan.
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Yes, I agree. But I recall reading about how to make OS installers w/ SP's already in them. i just hope the key starts w/ "FCKGW" ;D Pedeng gawaan ng paraan yan.
LOL... ::) meron din naman legitimate SP2 pre-loaded winxp installers. ;)
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I used a winxp installer loaded with sp2, do you think i should try to install/update the sp2 separately using an different installer?
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What's the serial key? I'll have it validated.
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What's the serial key? I'll have it validated.
i'l check later and post tomorrow
if i may ask, validated for what?
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i'l check later and post tomorrow
if i may ask, validated for what?
If the key is a valid key.
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If the key is a valid key.
thanks, i'll pm it tomorrow
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uh... not to sound weird here. but if the key was invalid he would get a nag screen di ba?
just curious... after a fresh install of winxp sp2 (without installing the video card drivers muna) do the "run >dxdiag" test... check what directx version is installed. it should say that it's 9.0c... if not, well... may problema nga installer mo.
if windows XP correctly identifies your video card... don't install the one on the CD anymore. chances are the drivers in SP2 are newer than the ones in your driver disk.
if you REALLY need the extras that come with the video card vendor's drivers... get the latest ones from the vendor... in your case, it should be here:
http://www.foxconnchannel.com/productsOverview_motherboard.cfm?pSocket=&pChipset=
BTW... i was checking the 661FX chipset boards and they all say they can only share up to 64MB of memory.
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The installer may be the culprit especially if it is not genuine. There are WinXP SP2 versions out there that have a few tampered files that will prevent you from making certain changes to the OS.
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Thanks for the replies guys, i'm planning to buy a dedicated video card january next year. hopefully this might solve my problem. but for the meantime, i'm really trying my best to solve my directX problem
just curious... after a fresh install of winxp sp2 (without installing the video card drivers muna) do the "run >dxdiag" test... check what directx version is installed. it should say that it's 9.0c... if not, well... may problema nga installer mo.
if windows XP correctly identifies your video card... don't install the one on the CD anymore. chances are the drivers in SP2 are newer than the ones in your driver disk.
after installing winxp, it will tell you that a newer version of directX is already installed should you try to load the 9.0b di ba?
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Did you get the serial key?
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Thanks for the replies guys, i'm planning to buy a dedicated video card january next year. hopefully this might solve my problem. but for the meantime, i'm really trying my best to solve my directX problem
after installing winxp, it will tell you that a newer version of directX is already installed should you try to load the 9.0b di ba?
no... it doesn't do that. when i tried to install 9.0b onto a freshly installed winxp sp2 machine (that had 9.0c in it)... it looked like it installed but immediately after clicking "next" nasa "finish" screen ka na. the progress screen didn't even show. ;D
you won't get a warning screen... :-\
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Did you get the serial key?
not yet sir, i went home late, can you pm me your mobile number? i will text it to you tonight
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no... it doesn't do that. when i tried to install 9.0b onto a freshly installed winxp sp2 machine (that had 9.0c in it)... it looked like it installed but immediately after clicking "next" nasa "finish" screen ka na. the progress screen didn't even show. ;D
you won't get a warning screen... :-\
what happened? did the 9.0c downgraded to 9.0b?
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what happened? did the 9.0c downgraded to 9.0b?
nope.... as i said in a previous post, it stayed as 9.0c. ;D
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Hi Dowals.
Sent you PM.
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I upgraded my graphics card last night, purchased a PowerColor 9250 128MB/128bit, weird thing was after installing the drivers, dxdiag showed directX9.0b, good thing a directX9.0c based game played flawlessly, SRS (street racing syndicate) to be exact.
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Actually, Street Racing Syndicate is not really a DX9.0c game. Your dxdiag is still showing directX9.0b because your videocard is only a directX9.0b-based card and does not really support true directX9.0c. Try playing a real directX9.0c-based game like Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War and you'll see what I mean.
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Actually, Street Racing Syndicate is not really a DX9.0c game. Your dxdiag is still showing directX9.0b because your videocard is only a directX9.0b-based card and does not really support true directX9.0c. Try playing a real directX9.0c-based game like Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War and you'll see what I mean.
really ??? i purchased a wrong video card? i shell'ed out 2+k and didn't even solve my problem :'(
i gonna kill myself :-X
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uh... i don't think that's completely true ...
i use an OLD OLD OLD radeon VE 7000 ... and it still shows directx 9.0c.... ;)
i really think it's your installer mr. dowals... get a new one. ;D
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I made a mistake. Sorry, I got confused there. Posted the reply when I haven't had enough sleep. Anyway, what I meant to say was that the ATI 9200 is a Direct X 8-based videocard. You can still install the DX9 drivers but if you will try to play a true DX9-based game, you'll get a video error because the hardware doesn't really support programmable pixel and vertex shaders higher than DX8.1. I'm not sure about the ATI 9250 though, but I think it's also a DX8-based card since it's a somewhat higher version of the 9200.
Again, try a true DX9-based game like Warhammer: Dawn of War and see what happens.
Sorry to hear that you spent over 2k when your intent was to play DX9-based games but my rule of thumb is, if I can't spend well over 10k for a new videocard, better spend the money somewhere else. Otherwise, I won't really see a significant increase in performance. But the good news is that true DX9-based PC games are very few since the programmers take into account the aging hardware of the purchasers. Heck, his Doom3 engine even runs on an ancient Riva TNT!
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I made a mistake. Sorry, I got confused there. Posted the reply when I haven't had enough sleep. Anyway, what I meant to say was that the ATI 9200 is a Direct X 8-based videocard. You can still install the DX9 drivers but if you will try to play a true DX9-based game, you'll get a video error because the hardware doesn't really support programmable pixel and vertex shaders higher than DX8.1. I'm not sure about the ATI 9250 though, but I think it's also a DX8-based card since it's a somewhat higher version of the 9200.
Again, try a true DX9-based game like Warhammer: Dawn of War and see what happens.
Sorry to hear that you spent over 2k when your intent was to play DX9-based games but my rule of thumb is, if I can't spend well over 10k for a new videocard, better spend the money somewhere else. Otherwise, I won't really see a significant increase in performance. But the good news is that true DX9-based PC games are very few since the programmers take into account the aging hardware of the purchasers. Heck, his Doom3 engine even runs on an ancient Riva TNT!
okay... bit of an aging gamer here who has gone astray (an currently clueless re: these new PC games)... but i am curious, won't these directx 9.0 games play sufficiently on directx 8.0 (or lower) -designed vidcards albeit at a lower framerate, less than ideal textures, etc etc.?
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It would really depend on the game engine. There are some games that really require a DX9-based videocard like Deus Ex: Invisible War, Silent Hill 4, and Warhammer: Dawn of War. They won't play on DX8-based videocards. But I've never tried these games on DX8 videocards myself since my last three videocards were all DX9-based. But a friend of mine gets a Direct X error whenever he tries to play Dawn of War on his GeForce 4 MX400.
But these games are few. Most games would play on DX8-based videocards or lower, but of course, you won't be seeing much.
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Thanks for the replies guys, been a learning a lot
the ATI 9250 i bought was my first vidcard. I'm not really an extreme gamer, i just do this during my spare time on weekends. I prefer FPS games; Medal of Honor series, Call of Duty & others
I wanted to try Medal of Honor Pacific Assault which i think requires directX 9.0c
I will try to get a new winxp installer.
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Also take note of the fact that Medal of Honor: Pacific Assault requires at least 512MB of RAM.
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whoa! these games are resource hungry!... sheesh! :-[
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Happy to tell you guys that i have already upgraded to 9.0c ;D
Thanks to all that replied :) Special thanks to Bumblebee for the valid keys
I was able to finish twice CALL OF DUTY 2 during the 3 day break