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High-Def => Blu-ray Players => Topic started by: striderhiryu1 on Aug 07, 2006 at 01:51 PM
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I'll be in RP this weekend. Am Japan based but currently hesitant to buy the Jap version (XA1) because most of my DVDs are region 1 (want to use the player for SD DVD and HD-DVD). May unit na ba from US na avaliable sa HT shops in Manila (Listening Room, Listening in Style, Audio-Visual Driver etc). Thanks. :)
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maybe the a/v shops who are members here too can issue posts as soon as they have stocks so interested early adopters will be informed... :)
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Sights&Sounds in Shangri-La mall will have the Toshiba HD-DVD player (not sure of what model it will be) available by late September with an estimated price of PhP35,000 ;D
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I guess that would be the cheaper version HD-A1...$499 in the US...if I am not mistaken, the higher model XA1 is priced at $799,
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meron na naka demo sa Spectra sa ParkSquare na Toshiba HDHVD :o
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wow....how much sa spectra? :)
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The Toshiba HD player is experiencing high demand worldwide and the supply can't keep up. Europe is importing a lot after the unit got rave reviews from the net, especially in comparison with the underperforming Samsung Blu-Ray player. Enterprising businessmen here may be able to import the units. but HD is not expected to be formally launched here or any part of Asia until next year. Europe has yet to get its HD debut. For P35T, that's a lot, but I'd sooner get one if I can afford it rather than those overpriced upsampling SD DVD players from high end brands. If you already own an HDTV with HDMI connection, I really recommend the Tosh. The AV forums I've visited are going gaga over this. To most HT enthusiasts, it's the best thing that ever happened to their HT viewing experience since getting their first DVD players. The titles are increasing, over 200 at this time, with most blockbusters ranging from $19 to $24 over at amazon. But with discs already encoded at 1080p, compared to a mere 480i in SD DVDs, the prices are not that much compared to regular priced DVDs at amazon. And with the right HDMI-equipped HDTV, the viewing rewards are just awesome, according to those to have seen HD-DVD in comparison with the best upsampling DVD players they have. ;D
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after two or three firmware updates, some issues that have bugged the TOSH player player have been resolved. The only knack now is its painfully slow operation. But well compensated by the grand HD viewing experience. :)
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According to a tosh review on the net, it takes 39secs from power-on for the drawer to open and another 60secs for you to get a screen display after putting the disc into the drawer and the player recognizing it. That's a really long 1min and 38secs before you see anything on screen. Compared to our beloved DVD players that have near-instant response, this can seem to take forever. But as you said, the gorgeous HD display more that makes up for the wait. ;D
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Maybe make it a habit to slip the disc before preparing some snacks and drinks( or take a leak)....then get the food, when you return to the HT room, probably the Menu is on display na... ;D ;D
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Exactly. There are ways to adopt to a slow starter. ;D The Samsung BD player is just a few seconds faster than this, but still slow. I am sure new generation players will address this. Just FYI, accdg to some net articles, the Tosh HD player is actually a PC using Intel pentium 4 chips. Maybe that accounts for the slow boot-up ;D
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meron na rin daw parating sa sound dimension
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Mahal diyan sa sound dimension when new. If the Tosh HD costs around 35T, that would compete with their simlarly priced Rotel DVD players which no matter how exellent their deinterlacing is, would now be garbage compared to HD. ;D
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Maybe make it a habit to slip the disc before preparing some snacks and drinks( or take a leak)....then get the food, when you return to the HT room, probably the Menu is on display na... ;D ;D
Actually, there's no more "menu screen" when you press play on HD DVD/BD movies, it go straight to the start of the movie. The menu now just appears when you press the "menu" button on the remote and appears as a live (realtime) translucent overlay while the movie's playing in the background. My guess on the long startup times is the player has to buffer a large amount of data during that loading time before the movie actually plays
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saw a demo of the Tosh HDDVD at spectra a few days back...jawdropping good! :D it takes a while to load the movie alright. here's the nice part...you can adjust video/audio parameters on the fly while the movie's playing. iba talaga HD. :)
they also sell HDDVDs.
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I have downloaded the 2.0 firmware and Dolby truehd 5.1 is now enabled (previously the hd a1 can only output a 2 channel truehd). this can only be realized with a HDMI connection with a multi channel pcm output from the A1. there are only 4 disc encoded with this Lossless bit for bit algorithm. Training day is one, POTO,Perfect storm and Constantine. All the rest are encoded in DD+ only. I have preordered the mission impossible series in Hd dvd format. It is said all 3 will be encoded using truehd ;D
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hmmm kailangan magipon. ok good bye pioneer 696.
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I have downloaded the 2.0 firmware and Dolby truehd 5.1 is now enabled (previously the hd a1 can only output a 2 channel truehd). this can only be realized with a HDMI connection with a multi channel pcm output from the A1. there are only 4 disc encoded with this Lossless bit for bit algorithm. Training day is one, POTO,Perfect storm and Constantine. All the rest are encoded in DD+ only. I have preordered the mission impossible series in Hd dvd format. It is said all 3 will be encoded using truehd ;D
I am all greeeeen with envvvvyyy!!!!! ;D
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I have downloaded the 2.0 firmware and Dolby truehd 5.1 is now enabled (previously the hd a1 can only output a 2 channel truehd). this can only be realized with a HDMI connection with a multi channel pcm output from the A1. there are only 4 disc encoded with this Lossless bit for bit algorithm. Training day is one, POTO,Perfect storm and Constantine. All the rest are encoded in DD+ only. I have preordered the mission impossible series in Hd dvd format. It is said all 3 will be encoded using truehd ;D
id really want to take some time to preview hd dvd images running on panny ae900....christmas is lurking na... ;D ;D
here's a primer on DOLBY TRUE HD.... you will click here (http://www.highdefdigest.com/feature_introducingdolbytruehd.html).....mukhang na uppercut na naman ang Blu Ray sa round two.... 8)
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DolbyTrueHD uses a Meridian Lossless Packing (MLP) compression, same as DVD-Audio. That's like watching movies with DVD-A sound quality.
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id really want to take some time to preview hd dvd images running on panny ae900....christmas is lurking na... ;D ;D
here's a primer on DOLBY TRUE HD.... you will click here (http://www.highdefdigest.com/feature_introducingdolbytruehd.html).....mukhang na uppercut na naman ang Blu Ray sa round two.... 8)
why did yo say so?
I've read the next gen format (HD DVD and Blu Ray) will carry the next gen surround format (DT HD and DTS HD).
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Tanong lang po.
Do these Next Gen Players (HD DVD and Blu Ray Players) have Multi-Channel Analog Out by default so that you can enjoy DT HD / DTS HD Surround even if your receivers have ni HDMI Input (Decoding to be done by the palyers).
If the Player has the decoder, do they also have bass management feature?
Thanks po.
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tanong din po ...
how would these local stores handle any service issues during the warranty period ?
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why did yo say so?
I've read the next gen format (HD DVD and Blu Ray) will carry the next gen surround format (DT HD and DTS HD).
bro...to give you an idea why im talking about round 2 already....from the WAR BEGINS thread...
an article from HD Digest: BLU-RAY VS. HD DVD: ROUND ONE (click) (http://www.highdefdigest.com/feature_blu-ray_vs_hd_dvd_round_one.html)
heto pa sir.. Blu-ray versus HD DVD: First Head-to-Head Comparisons
(http://www.highdefdigest.com/feature_blurayvshddvd_firstcomparison.html)
beside those reviews and being the first to offer Dolby True HD makes the HD DVD early front runner...but of course, , the Blu-Ray camp still has an ace on its sleeve when it comes to reaching millions of homes...thats the PS3......
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Tanong lang po.
Do these Next Gen Players (HD DVD and Blu Ray Players) have Multi-Channel Analog Out by default so that you can enjoy DT HD / DTS HD Surround even if your receivers have ni HDMI Input (Decoding to be done by the palyers).
If the Player has the decoder, do they also have bass management feature?
Thanks po.
Yes, the HD-DVD and Blu ray audio tracks are decoded and bass-managed right in the player and goes out either as 5.1 analog, LPCM via HDMI or DTS (standard) via toslink. The players do their own transcoding. The Tosh A1 HD-DVD player is said to be a specialized PC using Intel CPU chips. Right now, the DolbyTrueHD and Dolby plus audio tracks are decoded in the player. Content makers have yet to give their go-signal if they want the decoding to be done outside. This is more an audio protection issue than anything. There are still no receiver or preamp or outboard decoder boxes that can process DolbyTrueHD or DTS-HD. No impetus to come out with one precisely for the reasons cited. Even the Tosh A1 cannot ouput in these formats because it still has no HDMI ver 1.3 terminal, just 1.1. ONLY HDMI 1.3 can carry the immense data streams of a DolbyTrueHD or DTS-HD.
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I've read the next gen format (HD DVD and Blu Ray) will carry the next gen surround format (DT HD and DTS HD).
The HD players have them for audio tracks. But the implementation with the launch players was not up to the par. The Tosh HD-DVD players decoded the tracks and output as 5.1 analog and transcoded to stereo LPCM via HDMI 1.1 and maxed-out DTS via toslink. The recent upgrade firmware allowed the Tosh to output 5.1 LPCM via HDMI and is thus the closest thing you can have to hearing the new formats. Content makers still don't want the players to output the DolbyTrueHD and DTS-HD tracks. Transcoding them to 5.1 LPCM via current HDMI 1.1 connection is said to be just as good.
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im gonna audition this afternoon a member's Tosh Hd DVD set-up connected to a panny ae900....and see and hear what the HD DVD camp says the LOOK and SOUND of PERFECT... :) :)
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Thanks AVPhile.
So no need to upgrade my receiver na pala.
No plan of upgrading it just to have those receiver with HDMI even if they arrive.
Buti na lang meron multi-channel input ang receiver ko.
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Current flagship receivers with HDMI still won't hack it. that's because their HDMI is just 1.1, and you need version 1.3 to carry Doby trueHD and DTS-HD. Wait next year to see the first batch of receivers sportng HDMI 1.3. And they'll most likely still be flagships.
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saw na the demo for Tosh HD-A1 HD DVD. courtesy of alvinthx2, with the display PJ panny ae900 at 106in screen, and anthem avm50 as pre/pro. HT experience= WOW!!!! :o :o :o Night and day really vs SD DVD. the experience i had was really awesome. Images are flawless. Yung face na lang ng mga actors ang me flaw coz makikita mo blemishes nila. Colors popped out. Better black level. No artifacts. contrast is great.
Though parating palang yung mga disc nya with Dolby TrueHD, the soundtrack (DD+, DTS) ive heard with the Cronicles of Riddick title was exceptionally good too. Im glad Ber months na. ;D ;D
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Current flagship receivers with HDMI still won't hack it. that's because their HDMI is just 1.1, and you need version 1.3 to carry Doby trueHD and DTS-HD. Wait next year to see the first batch of receivers sportng HDMI 1.3. And they'll most likely still be flagships.
Technology upgrade is sometimes really unfair.
Buy them all and then dispose them all once new technology arrives.
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Manufacturers can only make those HT gears based on latest circuit designs given by industry consortia or tech leaders at the time of production. HDMI was touted as the next standard carrier of HD data. TRUE. But I think that was 2-3 years ago. The only problem was the specs for the HD-DVD and Blu-Ray were still not finalized at that tiime. Soon enough they realized they needed to upgrade the HDMI specs. So while it is true HDMI ushers you into the world of High Definition, you will need the latest HDMI version 1.3 to maximize the HD experience. My heart should bleed for those early adopters of HDMI mistakenly thinking they were future-proofing their investment. Not entirely. (I am now closer to believing there's really no such thing as future proofing in audio and video formats from hereon. ) While the current HDMI 1.1 can deliver the 24-bit HD video and even allow for multichannel LPCM sound, they won't accomodate higher 32-bit color depths promised in the next iteration which i am sure the 3rd or 4th gen HD players will offer within the next 2 years. And certainly not DolbyTrueHD and DTS-HD.
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I just visited Paradigm shop in Shangri-la (formerly B&W Specialist) and apparently, they sold a Toshiba HD-A1 for PhP40k. Listening in Style likewise sold some units for PhP38k according to them.
'Was able to see the Samsung BD-P1000 in action and the detail was just much better than SD. 'Were able to run the HQV disk on it. 'Will try to publish the results (if anyone is interested in how it performs on upconverting SD to HD) at the soonest time possible.
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The Tosh HD-A1 is said to be a PC in its hardware design and for the price, you get really robust hardware. And there are already people who consider this launch player worthy as a collectible investment. At $490, it delivers 6x resolution than the finest upsampling DVD players from Theta, Denon or Rotel costing more. In fact, one poster in an AV forum commented it no onger makes sense to buy upsampling DVD players when you consider most of the titles will already be availalbe in HD-DVD by end of 2007. All I can say, maybe by then, those expensive upsampling players will fall below $200, good enough for bargain hunters still holding on to their DVD collections. ;D When you already have an appropriate HDTV flat screen costing above 120T, 38T really shouldn't be a problem. And the HD titles at Amazon are not overly expensive compared to new DVD releases. So if I own an HDTV, I'd grab a Tosh A1 the first chance I get.
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if i could go back in time.....Di ko na sana nabili tong 2910. Oh well, back in December, news about HD players are so Blu-Ry..... :) :)
tama sir AV...HD DVD titles mostly are in $19.95 range...not bad...just in the price range of 2disc-SE DVDs...hmmmm 38K? iba iba quote ah...
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And that's why I've stopped buying newly released DVDs over the last 9 months. ;D Hintay na lang ng SALE. Unfortunately my savings are not sufficieint to get the Tosh A1, much less a 42' Bravia. ;D
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To those planning to buy or import the Tosh A1, I suggest you wait for the Tosh XE1 - the European version coming out this fall. From two AV forums, I read it will use the Intel Dual Core chip instead of the current Pentium IV 2.5Ghz chip and will sport a better faster drive for faster disc access. I read it will also have 1080p output via HDMI 1.3. And will look slimmer. Not a second generation HD-DVD player, but is said to improve much on the player launched in the US.
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/showthread.php?t=241295
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yikes...the cheaper model, HD-E1 doesnt have 5.1 analog outputs.... :-\
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great link sir AV, from what i read its likely the US versions will carry the names of HD-A2 and HD-XA2 instead of HD-E1 and HD-XE1 (parang 2nd gen na rin.....and they're hurrying yata to release them before PS3 do....)
from that hometheaterforum.com thread:
(http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/imgcache/905.imgcache)
im pretty excited so post ko na rin nabasa ko dun dito...thanks sir AV!!!
Originally Posted by Ken_F
Frank,
We'll know more at CEDIA in two weeks.
If I were a betting man, I would plan on seeing the E1 model in late October or early November at $399-$499. I know Toshiba wants its out before the PS3. I'm sure Toshiba would like to get the XE1 out before December, but I would be surprised if that happens, considering how tight the supply is on HDMI 1.3 parts.
The HD-E1 and HD-XE1 are not really second-generation players, however, they will feature a number of improvements over the A1 product. Forthcoming improvements you won't see on the spec sheet:
* Instead of an Intel P4M 2.5GHz, they'll use a faster and cooler-running Intel Core Duo -- the same dual-core chip found in current Mac notebooks. This improves responsiveness and enables the lower profile design.
* They'll have a new HD-DVD ROM drive with faster access times -- DVDs and HD-DVDs will load faster as a result.
* Other logic board changes to speed loading of the software.
Basically, these will be faster + slimmer versions of the current Toshiba A1 HD-DVD design. The software should be the same. As far as video and sound quality, I wouldn't expect any difference between the A1 and the E1. The E1 will feature a newer HDMI 1.2a part, which should improve display compatibility.
Do note, however, the the HD-E1 lacks 5.1 analog outputs, and thus you would need a receiver with HDMI 1.1 or later to experience Dolby Digital Plus, DTS-HD, and True-HD 5.1 from that product. Only the [current] A1 and the XE1 have 5.1 analog outputs.
The XE1 features a 12-bit/297MHz video DAC for those who rely on component output, HDMI 1.3 with "deep color" support, 5.1 analog outputs, optical and coaxial digital outputs, and a high-performance "I/P Converter & Scaler" to upconvert DVD to 1080p and deinterlace HD-DVD to 1080p for output over HDMI. Toshiba says the scaler/deinterlacer in the XE1 should match or exceed the performance of third-party 1080p solutions costing thousands of dollars. Price unknown but I would guess US$799 MSRP.
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That last paragraph about de-interlacing an HD-DVD seems odd to me. The disc is already encoded at 1080p so there should be no need to de-interlace anything.
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there goes my farfetched plan to acquire the hd-a1.....hahahaha ;D ;D a faster slimmer Toshy HD DVD player...!!! Impressive!!
hmmmm...they made them go on a diet ;D ;D
(http://www.i4u.com/images/2006/toshiba-hd-dvd-HD-E1-HD-XE1.jpg)
SEXiYeah!!! ;D ;D
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Most of the european posters in www.avforums.com that have bought the Tosh A1 declared no regrets importing the model even after realizing the european version would be more sophisticated. They are unanimous that the value of the Tosh as offered in an online AV sh0p was just too good. With free 7 HD titles.
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hmm..the players sold here just play region 1 standard disc right or do they play also region 3?
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hmmm, I believe they are region 1 by default when playing standard DVDs :-\ so you'll be stuck ordering from amazon
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R1 for DVDs. HD-DVDs are regionless at the moment, or so I heard. The Tosh A1 is said to be just so-so as a DVD player. But one doesn't buy this to play std DVD. And I am sure, like most Tosh A1 owners in the forums I've visited, once they've sampled one HD-DVD title on this machine, they lose interest watching standard DVD even if upscaled. ;D
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Will it work on a standard HDMI TV/monitor??
peace and blessing!!!
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Yes. That's what HDMI was intended to do in the first place - carry high resolution video and audio data. But is limited. You will need HDMI version 1.3 to transmit DolbyTrueHD and DTS-HD audio tracks. But for video, no problem.
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Your reply means that i need to get a new A/V receiver.... in that case,still need to think twice..saving for my childrens educational fund.,house mortgage,car payment,utility bills,SOFTWARE...and the list never stops ;D ;D ;D ;D.thanks for the heads up sir.
peace and blessing!!!
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You would need a new receiver. Problem is, there are no receivers at the moment with HDMI 1.3. Neither are there HDTVs with HDMI 1.3. Though they are slowly emerging.
But you don't need them to enjoy true high definition. Your current HDMI equipped display and receiver can already accept the 1080i output from a Tosh HD A1. The discs to start with are encoded at 1080p, The audio tracks are a glorious 5.1 LPCM transcoded in the player from DolbyTrue HD tracks and sent via HDMI which your receiver can handle. For $490, cheaper than many upsampling DVD players, you get 6x the resolution. Accg to many posters in other forums who are early adopters to HD, current DD and DTS and 480p upsampled to 1080i have suddenly become garbage compared to what the Tosh A1 can deliver today at those prices. ;D
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Now im having thought of getting it back again....think twice and fast!! arrrrrrrrrghhhhh!! ;D ;D ;D
Toshiba HD A1 HD DVD player
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Monitor is Sony Wega 42' LCD TV 720p/1080i resolution.
peace and blessing!!!
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If you could wait a few months more, get the euro versions that are coming there too...much better versions... :)
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WHile I was very enthusiastic about the european version earlier, I read that its price tag is substantially higher than the US version but you get the same audio/video quality and features (I had thought the difference would be minimal.) The advantage is the faster uptake of the disc and 1080p over HDMI 1.3, which really won't benefit the consumers much unless they upgrade their expensive HDTVs to the newer more expensive models that can accept 1080p input over HDMI 1.3. The US version is clearly a value proposition for HD over the next 2 years at least. ;D
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No stock locally while I was in Pinas. Mahal pa. I ordered na lang from Amazon since my wife will be in the US this week. Total cost is US$404.84 (free shipping). Also ordered Serenity, Phantom and Million Dollar Baby ;). Can't wait for Sept. 18.
http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/B000E1PTGK/ref=s9_asin_title_1/103-8427550-3296643
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WOW!! thats 20k pesos....I think bababa pa yan, lalo na kung malapit na lumabas yung mga european models. Sana bumaba na rin dito, if ever lalapit na sa 20k, it will be an interesting proposition, specially Xmas lurking around..congrats sir :)
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No need to upgrade. AVRs. That is also why receiver companies didn't have to rush any model to support the new audio formats to match the launch HD players. The current 5.1 analog ins and HDMI equipped recievers are sufficient. But I am sure over time, there'd be receivers with the new HDMI 1.3 as well as internal decoders for the new formats, if and when the studios allow outputting the native audio codecs.
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No stock locally while I was in Pinas. Mahal pa. I ordered na lang from Amazon since my wife will be in the US this week. Total cost is US$404.84 (free shipping). Also ordered Serenity, Phantom and Million Dollar Baby ;). Can't wait for Sept. 18.
http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/B000E1PTGK/ref=s9_asin_title_1/103-8427550-3296643
How much kaya yung tax sa airport?
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hmmmm, the HD-A1 has a pretty large box, if your gonna let it ship from the US and send it via JAC which ive read charges by volume weight, its gonna be pretty expensive..
(http://images.google.com.ph/images?q=tbn:LAYQprYIFOudQM:http://hdvforever.com/blog/HDDVD_OpenBox.jpg)
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mukang kasya naman sa balikbayan box ;)
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Hi Guys!!!
makikisingit na lang ako on the HDMI thing.
I got a philips DVP 5900, which has HDMI. I got it for 1kRMB(6kPHP) and the LCD 8Krmb(around 48k). Did I get a good deal? I did not knew anything on HDMI and I'm only learning now
I got it because I thought it would be a good combination with an LCD philips TV i got also. its 32 inches and it was 8k(48k php) at may "HD" logo yun TV kaya kako, bagay yun "HD" DVD player ;D
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pardon me for my ignorance...thing is, when I play those DVD's I got from the US(after hacking it to be multi region) it tells me that the device is non-HD or something. I reckon kelangan ko ng HD-DVD ;D It does not show any picture(instead blue screen) only. Pero when I use the Yellow(video), red and white(audio) ok naman.
When I play bootleg dvds, it works well with HDMI. does this mean it just "upscales" the video quality?
Also, how much ang DVD players with HDMI sa atin sa pinas(aside from what I read on the toshiba 35k?)? how much ang after market HDMI cable sa atin? I got a philips HDMI cable for 300krmb(1800php). Funny, it did not come with the player, it was offered as a separate sale. medyo namamahalan ako for a stock cable, but I got it anyway.
thanks
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pardon me for my ignorance...thing is, when I play those DVD's I got from the US(after hacking it to be multi region) it tells me that the device is non-HD or something. I reckon kelangan ko ng HD-DVD ;D It does not show any picture(instead blue screen) only. Pero when I use the Yellow(video), red and white(audio) ok naman.
In order to have HD (or near-HD) quality on your display you need an HD DVD player or one that has upscaling, through the HDMI input. I'm not sure if I got your entire post right, but the reason why it's only a blue screen on HD is because its not getting any data through the HD input. If you don't have an HD-DVD player, check if your Philips has upscaling through HDMI output, and that will improve the quality by a considerable margin over the yellow video cable, but don't expect it to be HD quality though. I personally haven't tried HD at home (no funds :)) but from my own experience even the component video has great results over the standard video input.
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toshiba hd dvd now available at $399 sa amazon. if one uses Johnny air cargo at their $5.5/lb + $5 processing fee (exclusive to Pinoydvd members) , and at 26 lbs, shipping would amount to $150 +/-. Converted to Peso, whole package would amount to P28548. Not bad...if you compare it to local prices of 35-40k... (I believe dutes and taxes is inclusive sa shipping fee ng JAC).
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In order to have HD (or near-HD) quality on your display you need an HD DVD player or one that has upscaling, through the HDMI input. I'm not sure if I got your entire post right, but the reason why it's only a blue screen on HD is because its not getting any data through the HD input. If you don't have an HD-DVD player, check if your Philips has upscaling through HDMI output, and that will improve the quality by a considerable margin over the yellow video cable, but don't expect it to be HD quality though. I personally haven't tried HD at home (no funds :)) but from my own experience even the component video has great results over the standard video input.
pero di ba pag may HDMI sya, HD capable na yun player right? or not necessarily? or maybe its just near HD quality because of the HD upscale? :)
actually, on the player it says HDMI. I have it connect thru the HDMI input of the LCD TV. When I put in a DVD I got from the US(reg 1), there's a message its a "non-HD disc or something, not supported etc ok?"... I choose ok and bluescreen comes out. switching to the analog video input of the lcd tv, may picture naman. pag bootleg sinaksak ko, ok naman sya thru HDMI output ng player at meron pic sa tv. ewan ko lang kung "video upscaling" ginagawa nya sa mga bootleg dvd's. what do you think? maybe huh?
hmmm... probably kelangan ko ng orig HD-DVD disc ;D kapag orig DVD disc(like my ultimated jordan dvd) parang hindi nya ginagamit yun HDMI output. is this normal? maybe I bought a crappy player hehehe ;D anyways...
Also, I have it defaulted to 1080i. ok lang naman to ano?
eto pala yun specs nya.
Philips DVP5900/05 DivX DVD Player with HDMI
Product Features:
HDMI digital AV connection for perfect quality
Video upscaling for improved resolution of up to 1080i lines
Displays High Definition pictures (JPEG) in true resolution
Progressive Scan for razor sharp and flicker free images
192kHz/24-bit audio DAC delivers high quality audio
Plays DVD, DVD+R/RW, (S)VCD, DivX 3.11/4.x/5.x/6.x, MPEG4
Plays CD, MP3-CD, CD-R/RW & Windows Media Audio
Picture CD (JPEG) playback
Dimensions [WxHxD] 562 x 85 x 411 mm
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Philips-DVP5900-05-DivX-Player/dp/B000AS1N1M
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toshiba hd dvd now available at $399 sa amazon. if one uses Johnny air cargo at their $5.5/lb + $5 processing fee (exclusive to Pinoydvd members) , and at 26 lbs, shipping would amount to $150 +/-. Converted to Peso, whole package would amount to P28548. Not bad...if you compare it to local prices of 35-40k... (I believe dutes and taxes is inclusive sa shipping fee ng JAC).
How about customs duties? Magkano kaya madadagdag? Might reach 35T. 40T seems to include retailer/importer profit margin and adminsitrative overhead. Actually that's small for consumer electronic profit. ;D
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was just on the phone with JAC, local duties and taxes is already inclusive to the rates. One huge risk.....getting a lemon for a unit. if you order now, you can get it within a week....2 weeks longest.. :)
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pero di ba pag may HDMI sya, HD capable na yun player right? or not necessarily? or maybe its just near HD quality because of the HD upscale? :)
There are only three brands at the moment that can play high definition discs. These are Toshiba HD-A1 and RCA (rebadged Toshiba) for the HD-DVD format, and the Samsung BDP-1000 for the Blu Ray format.
While the HD in HDMI means High Definition, this is just an interface format. Many upscale receivers and DVD players today have HDMI terminals. But except for those two above, and some newer models from Pioneer and Sony just about to launch, all HDMI equipped DVD players at this time are not high definition, only upsampling players. Your Philips is another upscaling DVD player that will NOT play either HD-DVD or Blu ray discs. But it can upsample standard resolution or SD DVDs from their native 480i encoded resolution to something higher often up to 1080i.
Philips DVP5900/05 DivX DVD Player with HDMI
Product Features:
HDMI digital AV connection for perfect quality
Video upscaling for improved resolution of up to 1080i lines
Displays High Definition pictures (JPEG) in true resolution
Progressive Scan for razor sharp and flicker free images
192kHz/24-bit audio DAC delivers high quality audio
Plays DVD, DVD+R/RW, (S)VCD, DivX 3.11/4.x/5.x/6.x, MPEG4
Plays CD, MP3-CD, CD-R/RW & Windows Media Audio
Picture CD (JPEG) playback
Dimensions [WxHxD] 562 x 85 x 411 mm
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Philips-DVP5900-05-DivX-Player/dp/B000AS1N1M
It obviously doesn't play HD-DVD or Blu Ray discs. Nothing in the features say so. As I expect.
Sometimes, if not often, manufacturers can really get into my nerves for taking advantage of less informed consumer market.
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was just on the phone with JAC, local duties and taxes is already inclusive to the rates. One huge risk.....getting a lemon for a unit. if you order now, you can get it within a week....2 weeks longest.. :)
If that's the case, then the online price is a relative bargain.
Most posters at an avforum I vist who ordered this model online also got 7 free HD-DVD titles of their choice from www.movietyme.com. That was late last month and early this. When I checked the other day, the model is out of stock. They have the more expensive XA1 and still offers 6 or 7 free HD-DVD titles.
And from their discussions, I have yet to encounter a complaint about a lemon. But that doesn't mean there won't be sooner or later. ;D
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Also, I have it defaulted to 1080i. ok lang naman to ano?
Check the native resolution of your LCD display. Even if the player outputs at its highest upsampled resolution, if the display cannot go 1080i, it will downscale the input to whatever its native reslution is. Often at 768p. But that doesn't mean you'll get crap. It's still a notch above ordinary displays.
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If that's the case, then the online price is a relative bargain.
Most posters at an avforum I vist who ordered this model online also got 7 free HD-DVD titles of their choice from www.movietyme.com. That was late last month and early this. When I checked the other day, the model is out of stock. They have the more expensive XA1 and still offers 6 or 7 free HD-DVD titles.
And from their discussions, I have yet to encounter a complaint about a lemon. But that doesn't mean there won't be sooner or later. ;D
im just holding the horses.....its really a very good opportunity to enojy HD.
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pardon me for my ignorance...thing is, when I play those DVD's I got from the US(after hacking it to be multi region)
How did you hack it to multi region? I can only guess that the hacking may have adverrsely affected your unit. I find it strange that bootleg DVDs (mostly Region 0) can be upscaled via HDMI while your legit R1 discs can't but will only show via analog connection. Are you sure this happens to ALL legit R1 discs? How about legit R3 discs?
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im just holding the horses.....its really a very good opportunity to enojy HD.
Toshiba is unveiling the next generation HD-DVD players this weekend at the CEDIA 2006 in Denver. But I read it will just be the North American version of the European XE1 using Intel Dual Core plus 1080p and HDMI1.3. So expect the A1 to come down in price further after this. Pre or post Christmas might be a good time to get one.
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this is the steps i got from the net
1) Open tray
2) press "9" "9" "9" "9" "OK" "0" - The 0 is for Any Region
3) "Play"
ah, so the HDMI is just another cool techie way of confusing dummies like me ;D anyway, I think its a level up the component video right?
thanks for the info though. cool stuff :)
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I think its a level up the component video right?
It is way better. HDMI allows the video signal to remain in the digital domain between player and display. No digital to analog conversion when gettting out the component connection route, and no analog to digital conversion when the signal is received at the display side. So no signal conversion losses.
With regards the hacking steps, try to undo it and see if you still have the same problem.
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it would have been much better to wait for the 2nd gen players. It has btter specs in the form of the duo core processor, and sleeker design but the lower priced hd-a2 has no multi-channel analog outs...while x-a2 is priced at $999. waiting for the prices of the hd-a1 to go down a little bit more might pose a risk.....the risk of stocking out.
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I think it already is out of stock. Movietyme no longer has one.
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I saw some HD DVD's here locally yesterday... selling at about P1700+ @ the Paradigm showroom. I saw Dolby digital plus and DTS something at the back...cool!
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I saw some HD DVD's here locally yesterday... selling at about P1700+ @ the Paradigm showroom. I saw Dolby digital plus and DTS something at the back...cool!
if you order at amazon most are priced at $19.95 (some at $23.95), if you get three, you'll have 10 percent discount for a year. add about 3-4 dollars per title for shipping on the average..... after computation and conversion at P51 to a $.....P1100-1200. :)
im waiting for alvinthx2's review on the newest sound format, Dolby TrueHD 5.1, wala pa yung titles nya na meron sound format na ganun.. :)
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if you order at amazon most are priced at $19.95 (some at $23.95), if you get three, you'll have 10 percent discount for a year. add about 3-4 dollars per title for shipping on the average..... after computation and conversion at P51 to a $.....P1100-1200. :)
im waiting for alvinthx2's review on the newest sound format, Dolby TrueHD 5.1, wala pa yung titles nya na meron sound format na ganun.. :)
It's often cheaper buying online for newly released titles.
Regarding DolbyTrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio, there is no known receiver on earth that can yet process these formats. The decoding is strictly confined in the player. And only players with HDMI 1.3 like the second generation Toshiba HD players can carry the immense data of these formats. But they're basically useless as the studios have yet to allow the raw datastream to escape the player. So for most practical HD audio uses, HDMI 1.3 is really irrelevant at the moment. Ofcourse that could change later.
But no matter, the player decodes DolbyTrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio into multichannel LPCM and sends them as such over HDMI 1.1. HDMI equiped recievers can accept these datastreams and you get essentially what the two formats deliver - the finest digital audio quality comparable to SACD and DVD-A. This is now the new paradigm. Whereas before, toslink, i-link and d-link allow a DVD player to become a digital transport unit where the processing is done on the pre/pro section of the receiver, now the players will do the audo decoding. The studios want it that way to minimizie the risk of having pirates capture the escaping raw datastreams via HDMI 1.3. At any rate, the conversion to LPCM is not strictly a conversion as both compressed formats naturally uncompresses into LPCM. And whether done in the player or the receiver via HDMI1.3, the result is the same multichanel LPCM fed to the DAC circuits.
Alternatively, if you have no HDMI facility and you want to use your current s/pdif connection, the audio tracks on the HD-DVD contain standard DTS MAXIMIZED at 1500mbps bit rates so the quality is still awesome compared to existing DTS tracks on SD DVD which are seldom maximized (0ften just half their max bitrates) except for superbit versions.
Last option, and just as good accdg to some pundits, is to use the 5.1 analog connection much like what many use for SACD and DVD-A.
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munskie mukang go na go ka na sa hd-dvd a! ;D pull the trigger pare baka maubusan ka na!
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hmmmm....still waiting.. :)
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Got a good deal on a Japanese Toshiba HD-DVD so I got one as well... while waiting for the US HD-A1
Front
(http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/9364/ax1front2dg7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Back (has the D4 connection in addition to component and HDMI)
(http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/8117/ax1backvr8.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
The default menu is Japanese but can be easily changed to English. The remote however is in Japanese. I was able to upgrade to FW2.0 via web without a hitch
(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/979/ax1menuhs6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Toshiba AX-1 with Panasonic AE-700 . Time to upgrade the projector
(http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/1254/ax1ae700cr7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
I have not watched any HD-DVD as I'm awaiting for my Amazon orders but so far so good with SD DVDs at 720p.
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Got a good deal on a Japanese Toshiba HD-DVD so I got one as well... while waiting for the US HD-A1
wow!! congrats on your new toy!! r u gonna get two hd dvd players? the model you got, the hd-xa1 is the pricier model than the hd-a1, how much did you get for your japan model xa1? better get na lang a universal remote like logitech harmony, the toshiba remote sucks, as reported... :)
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Around US$590 based on current exchange rate. Will be bringing the AX1 sa RP once the G2 units come-out.
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waiting for those HD DVDs is such a pain noh? ;D ;D oh btw, acddg to early CEDIA reports, improvements in loading times between G1 and G2 improved by 20 seconds....and some onlookers are jumping over the g1 units coz it is perceived to give them more value, especially the HD-A1, which is priced now at $399 in amazon. The G2 equivalent unit, HD-A2 doesnt have analog 5.1 outputs (thats a sacrilege!! and will be priced at $499) and maxes out at 1080i. The pricier model HD-XA2, will be priced at $999, but now 1080p capable. Tosh gave "free lunch" over the first gen players........I think they would want to cut losses now on the supposed subsidies they did......
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Nice new toy there. I am very green with envy. ;D
Tosh took a loss and priced its A1 to penetrate the market easily. Typical Jap strategy for new products. And I am sure they'll try to recover with G2 releases. But really now, 20secs faster on those G2 machines doesn't seem impressive enough when you consider the wait on the A1 is around 100 secs. And let's not be overly excited with 1080p - not really needed to enjoy true HD with screens that already upsample to 1080p. At amazon prices, the A1 is indeed a great value at this time for practical HD HT purposes. ;D
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toshiba hd dvd now available at $399 sa amazon. if one uses Johnny air cargo at their $5.5/lb + $5 processing fee (exclusive to Pinoydvd members) , and at 26 lbs, shipping would amount to $150 +/-. Converted to Peso, whole package would amount to P28548. Not bad...if you compare it to local prices of 35-40k... (I believe dutes and taxes is inclusive sa shipping fee ng JAC).
UPS shipping had the package at 13lbs, hmmm, wondering why its specified at 26 lbs in amazon....if its 13 lbs...then shipping charges should be cut by half from there to here.....that would make it P25k+/-
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With the volume of shipments they handle daily, someone may have misread the weighing scales. ;D Either that or they're making a generous 50% discount on shipping. Lucky you. ;D
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Finally got the US HD DVD player and the 3 HD-DVD software. Played Phantom of the Opera in the Japanese AX1... slow loading time compared to current DVD players. The volume of sound in Phantom is very low so have to crank up my 7 yr. old DSP-A1 amp. to compensate. Will check TruHD later. Picture was also soft at times (I though I was watching regular HDTV movie broadcast from my local provider).
I am a fan of the Firefly series so was very excited to watch Serenity. WOW. The picture was amazing even only using AE-700 in a 100 inch screen. Another reason to upgrade to 1080p projection or plasma later. True hometheater fans should go hd-dvd. I wish the software catalog increases since I can only count a few movies I want to buy in current line-up. I’m no longer buying SD DVDs. Either 1080i broadcast/cable or HD-DVD and possibly blu-ray when PS3 comes out or a reasonable blu-ray player comes in.
Anybody using a Panasonic 65PX500 plasma (last years model?)
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wow...congrats strider....nice to hear your comments. come this third quarter, there will be 150-200 titles to choose from.....and hope that some studios cross the line... Its been said that Serenity is a great PQ demo material for HD DVD. again, congrats strider.... ;D when i saw the demo of one of the members here...im convinced too
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Finally got the US HD DVD player and the 3 HD-DVD software. Played Phantom of the Opera in the Japanese AX1... slow loading time compared to current DVD players. The volume of sound in Phantom is very low so have to crank up my 7 yr. old DSP-A1 amp. to compensate. Will check TruHD later. Picture was also soft at times (I though I was watching regular HDTV movie broadcast from my local provider).
I am a fan of the Firefly series so was very excited to watch Serenity. WOW. The picture was amazing even only using AE-700 in a 100 inch screen. Another reason to upgrade to 1080p projection or plasma later. True hometheater fans should go hd-dvd. I wish the software catalog increases since I can only count a few movies I want to buy in current line-up. I’m no longer buying SD DVDs. Either 1080i broadcast/cable or HD-DVD and possibly blu-ray when PS3 comes out or a reasonable blu-ray player comes in.
Anybody using a Panasonic 65PX500 plasma (last years model?)
Same here, after watching what HD-DVD can do, I can't seem to pull myself to buy anymore DVDs. ;D
With regards your plan to get a plasma, compare one with a Bravia or an Aquos LCD. You'd be blown away by either.
If only the prices would come down for the HDTVs and the HD players, then I can say the DVD is DEAD. No ifs no buts. Ofcourse, just like the VHS and the VCDs, DVD zombies will still be around for awhile. Though that won't happen anytime soon.
Finally, you now have an upscale video product your non-high def HT friends can drool about until they reach mass market prices. Congrats and enjoy!!! ;D
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wow...congrats strider....nice to hear your comments. come this third quarter, there will be 150-200 titles to choose from.....and hope that some studios cross the line... Its been said that Serenity is a great PQ demo material for HD DVD. again, congrats strider.... ;D when i saw the demo of one of the members here...im convinced too
This October 10, Warner will release 5 new HD-DVD titles that include Batman Begins, Charlie and the Choc Factory, Willie Wonka and the Choc Factory, The Polar Express and The Corpse Bride.
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wow...congrats strider....nice to hear your comments. come this third quarter, there will be 150-200 titles to choose from.....and hope that some studios cross the line... Its been said that Serenity is a great PQ demo material for HD DVD. again, congrats strider.... ;D when i saw the demo of one of the members here...im convinced too
Thanks. I'm excited about future HD DVD releases. Bought my first DVD player back in 1998 (was into LD at that time - still have the player actually) and I think jump in PQ overall was comparable if not better. I hope HD DVD titles catch-up. I learned a lot from collecting DVDs (maraming titles na hindi ko na naulit panoorin) so will be choiceful in the HD DVDs I watch.
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This October 10, Warner will release 5 new HD-DVD titles that include Batman Begins, Charlie and the Choc Factory, Willie Wonka and the Choc Factory, The Polar Express and The Corpse Bride.
Will order the Batman HD DVD though I already have the 2-Disc Collector's Edition and have watch local HDTV broadcast. What I really want though are the LOTR Trilogy, Indiana Jones, SW, Gladiator etc in HD. Tagal na naman paghihintay. Baka G3 na players at combo pa
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Strider, I'm also Japan based. Is the XA1 region locked or can it play US HD-DVD and DVD discs?
Thanks!
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Same here, after watching what HD-DVD can do, I can't seem to pull myself to buy anymore DVDs. ;D
With regards your plan to get a plasma, compare one with a Bravia or an Aquos LCD. You'd be blown away by either.
Bro, that 65V Pany Viera is tough to beat even by the best LCDs in the market. I only have 2 big issues with the 65V Pany. First, it's too big for my Japanese mansion, 2nd, I simply can't afford it. He he he.
Strider, you seem to be a collector of the "real" best stuff out here. When you bought your Yamaha A1 seven years ago, I could only get the 3rd to the cheapest Yamaha AV (596). Umasenso na ako ng konti this time with a 757 (he he he). Sama lang ng loob ko dahil biglang lumabas yung 759 with Ipod support. Anyway, enjoy your HD-DVD. Personally, I would still prefer a very huge LCD or Plasma than a good projector, pero kanya kanya lang taste diba.
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I read sometime last month that Japan and the US will have the same region coding for blu-ray. That would be real nice ne. More options for us all. I hope HD-DVD would be the same.
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AFAIK, HD-DVD players are not implementing region-locking. Toshi A1 is region-free for HD-DVD discs. Though that may change in the future. But it is region locked at R1 for regular DVDs. Though I think a remote control hack is also available.
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Will order the Batman HD DVD though I already have the 2-Disc Collector's Edition and have watch local HDTV broadcast. What I really want though are the LOTR Trilogy, Indiana Jones, SW, Gladiator etc in HD. Tagal na naman paghihintay. Baka G3 na players at combo pa
King Kong in HD-DVD will be released on Nov 14 this year.
The problem with releases of big budget films like LOTR, Titanic, Star Wars and Gladiator is that the studios seem to be waiting for the trend to settle before committing to the relatively higher expense of putting the masters into the new codecs and releasing them in either formats. If the trend towards one or the other becomes clear, they will commit soon enough. Even if trends shows both formats will coexist, they can commit and might even put the mastered codecs into both formats. In the meantime, most of the releases are so-so with a few that are truly worth getting. Good thing King Kong is one of them.
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AFAIK, HD-DVD players are not implementing region-locking. Toshi A1 is region-free for HD-DVD discs. Though that may change in the future. But it is region locked at R1 for regular DVDs. Though I think a remote control hack is also available.
As long as it is region free for HD-DVD and stays that way, that would be more than good enough for me. Still got region free DVD players anyway. So the general plan would be, find cheap HD-DVD machines at discount shops in Japan, and buy the discs at Amazon...GREAT! If only hollywood would release the latest movies in HD soonest.
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If only hollywood would release the latest movies in HD soonest.
It really won't be fast enough for reasons I gave above. Not only that, the studios need to put in more features on top of what their earlier DVD releases have. Not necessarily the materials, but some re-authoring work is needed to bring the user interactivity feature of HD more prominent.
With regards the new movies, I don't know if the studios have two seperate authoring teams or houses to deliver standard DVDs simultaneosuly with HD-DVDs, but I am sure they'll prioritize on SD-DVDs as they have a larger market.
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As long as it is region free for HD-DVD and stays that way, that would be more than good enough for me. Still got region free DVD players anyway. So the general plan would be, find cheap HD-DVD machines at discount shops in Japan, and buy the discs at Amazon...GREAT! If only hollywood would release the latest movies in HD soonest.
hmmm, thats my plan too. thats why I forsaken my plan to wait for the next gen players. The hd-a1 i believe gives me the most value now. and get the discs at amazon.....where the price is just almost at par of a 2 disc SE dvd. ;)
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King Kong in HD DVD will be released on Nov 14 this year.
i'm all over this...I hope its in extended edition.... :)
oh btw guys, im not being an OC or something ah, just want to share info....ive read somewhere, just cant remember, that the HD DVD camp has made it clear that HD DVD has no hyphen in it...... ;) peace guys....
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Let me also share what I read earlier that the term HD DVD was adopted as the next-generation DVD that includes both Blu ray and HD-DVD. While the HD-DVD camp prefers to drop the hyphen, it is of little moment to me. Maybe the more generic term has the hyphen. Whatever. ;D But I have no problem droping hyphens altogether.
I also prefer to spell Blu-Ray as Blurry if you don't mind. ;D with or without hyphen.
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I also prefer to spell Blu-Ray as Blurry if you don't mind. ;D with or without hyphen.
I think this sums up whats happening to this format war for now.
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I read sometime last month that Japan and the US will have the same region coding for blu-ray. That would be real nice ne. More options for us all. I hope HD-DVD would be the same.
Yes, the Japanese HD DVD (AX1) player can play US HD DVDs (and I assume any HD DVD) as its not region locked. However, for SD DVD, only R2 discs can be played (or discs with no region coding). The menu can be easily change to english as well. Also, I was comfortable updating via internet kasi hindi pa nagkabrownout sa area namin for the past 7 years. :)
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Yes, the Japanese HD DVD (AX1) player can play US HD DVDs (and I assume any HD DVD) as its not region locked. However, for SD DVD, only R2 discs can be played (or discs with no region coding). The menu can be easily change to english as well. Also, I was comfortable updating via internet kasi hindi pa nagkabrownout sa area namin for the past 7 years. :)
Thanks. Are there any laws governing the release of rental versions of those 200+ HD-DVD titles? I was just watching Lethal Weapon 2 last night on Skyperfect TV and was thinking no amount of resolution would make me shell out $20+ to get its HD DVD version and watch all over again.
I remember in 99, I finally decided to get a DVD player and set up an HT once the video rental shops in Tokyo started adding rental DVDs in their library. Initially, rental versions were mostly old titles, but the family got to rent almost every single available title for like 400 yen each (including those ho-hum 2-hour full of slow-mo old Van Damme flicks - those films where he almost didn't say anything - he he he). I remember the very first title I rented was The Killing Fields...brought back good ol memories of my college days in Diliman (not the content of the film but the years when that film was released on betamax).
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Yes, the Japanese HD DVD (AX1) player can play US HD DVDs (and I assume any HD DVD) as its not region locked. However, for SD DVD, only R2 discs can be played (or discs with no region coding). The menu can be easily change to english as well. Also, I was comfortable updating via internet kasi hindi pa nagkabrownout sa area namin for the past 7 years. :)
id probably just find a way to get the firmware update on the CD shipped here.....no blackouts aint a sure thing here in our area....
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Clondalkin - abandoned Skyperfect when I installed a HD Tuner (HD Satellite Broadcast... you have to pay separate though for HD content from WOWOW or STARChannel).
Recently, J-Com provide HD via cable (I now have MovieHD, DiscoveryHD and FoxliteHD). Will decide after 6 months if cable HD is worth keeping kasi mahal din monthly fee.
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Clondalkin - abandoned Skyperfect when I installed a HD Tuner (HD Satellite Broadcast... you have to pay separate though for HD content from WOWOW or STARChannel).
Recently, J-Com provide HD via cable (I now have MovieHD, DiscoveryHD and FoxliteHD). Will decide after 6 months if cable HD is worth keeping kasi mahal din monthly fee.
Still keeping Skyperfect because of The Golf Channel, my wife's TFC and my daughter's channels na wala sa J-com (Nickelodeon for one), but down to basic package nalang ako compared to when I started in 1998 (50K pa Sony tuner non, ngayon may libre pa yata). I also have HD through CS110 and terrestial digital broadcast but my LCD is only 37V (sa yo only lang yong size na yon - he he he). Nagbabayad ka ba properly? he he he. Been thinking about Jcom HD for a while dahil J-com naman phone service ko (and previous internet provider), and daming walang kwentang contents sa Japanese HD broadcasts diba (unless mahilig ka sa Japanese variety shows, sumo, baseball and TV drama) and like you mentioned, optional channels (payment) yung interesting stuff. Di naman pedeng laging foreign documentary or travel show lang.
If you live in the Tokyo, Kanagawa, Chiba area, there probably was a power outage in your area while you were in Manila. August 14 yata ng morning there was an accident sa high tension lines across a river, nasabit ng crane. Pero a few hours lang naman ang outage. Me, I haven't experience brownout here for the past 17 years, or baka nataon lang na wala ako sa Tokyo non. Wag naman sanang lumindol.
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Any news if GAMERA- Little Braves would come out on HD? Or i'm stuck with DVD?
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havent seen that title in the release dates list yet.... :)
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Thanks, Munskie! That would delay furthermore my purchase of any HD player. ;D
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The Toshiba XA1 is gonna cost me about 70K yen at the moment. If the upcoming 19.8K yen add-on HD-DVD drive to the Xbox360 proves to be reasonably comparable with or without hdmi support, I think my HD-DVD switch would start from there instead. I am guessing though that Microsoft would possibly sell another $40 HDMI cable for the X360, but I do not foresee any major difference (yet) connecting an HD-DVD drive through D cable or component video cable as long as the monitor is a real HD panel. I certainly hope I am right.
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Yes you are right. For NOW. Studios have not implemented puting in the HDCP watermarking that would flag the proper circuit to downgrade the signal going though component. So you still don't really need HDMI to carry the full 1080i signal. At least that's what i heard about HD-DVD. I don't know about BD.
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Yes you are right. For NOW. Studios have not implemented puting in the HDCP watermarking that would flag the proper circuit to downgrade the signal going though component. So you still don't really need HDMI to carry the full 1080i signal. At least that's what i heard about HD-DVD. I don't know about BD.
Both HD DVD and BD have ICT (Image Constraint Token) built into the specs and while the studios have said they're not going to use ICT for now, that could change in the future once TV's and HT receivers with HDMI inputs become more common. I've read somewhere that the aim is to eliminate analog (composite, S-video, component) input/outputs on future TV's and go entirely HDMI
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More 'Superman' for HD DVD (http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Warner/Disc_Announcements/More_Superman_for_HD_DVD/256)...good!!! ;D ;D
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Im very interested in the Toshiba HD-A1 HD DVD. I called Spectra in Park Square and was told it costs P39,000. Now im just waiting for sony phils to release their new 1080p Bravia LCD lineup :)
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bro toink, the HD-A1 doesnt have video output for 1080p, just 1080i and 720p....though HD DVD titles are encoded 1080p. If you really want 1080p, you can wait for the gen 2 players HD-A2 or HD-XA2 due out October and December respectively in the US....just for your info coz I saw ur waiting for the sony 1080p LCD TV
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@Munskie
thanks for the info. I will definitely wait on the gen 2 hd dvd players :)
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wow...Batman Begins hit it right on the spot. It was just declared the first genuine a-list reference title for HD DVD.
(http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/images/post/0/784/original.jpeg)
Here's the link for the highdefdigest review:
Batman Begins HD DVD review (click) (http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/batmanbegins.html)
and the reviewer's final thoughts:
Final Thoughts
'Batman Begins' is a no-brainer. Even if you are only casually interested in the film, you should definitely check this one out to see the HD DVD format at the top of its game. Terrific transfer, awesome Dolby TrueHD soundtrack and tons of extras -- including some genuine HD bonus content -- make this one the A-list HD DVD release to beat. Now is a very good time to be an early adopter!
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bro toink, the HD-A1 doesnt have video output for 1080p, just 1080i and 720p....though HD DVD titles are encoded 1080p. If you really want 1080p, you can wait for the gen 2 players HD-A2 or HD-XA2 due out October and December respectively in the US....just for your info coz I saw ur waiting for the sony 1080p LCD TV
Having a 1080p output is not necessary because the HDTV will simply upconvert the 1080i input to 1080p. And since the 1080i signal has ALL the video information that is simply streamed as interlaced data, the de-interlacing display will reconstitute a 1080p display with no motion artifacting and identical to 1080p input. Pundits on avforums could not distinguish between the two.
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Thanks AV...so Toink, there you have it, you can have a HD A1 now...which I think has more value than the 2nd Gen HD-A2.... ;D ;D
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Just for reference, this was how a Japanese AV reviewer tried to check the difference between HDMI and D4/D5 in HD. He captured some HD video frames and magnified it like XX times...there you would see some difference.
But personally, I tend to be believe in "potential" difference due to specs. Perhaps when the equipment and engine and codecs have been optimized.
I wonder how a 1080p encoded movie will look in a 2160p LCD panel like the prototype shown by Sharp in Tokyo this week?
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I wonder how a 1080p encoded movie will look in a 2160p LCD panel like the prototype shown by Sharp in Tokyo this week?
Well, if it has the right upsampling, it should lookd as good as a 480i content upsampled on a 1080i screen.
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hello just have a couple of questions. My cousin was saying that it is available now to buy generic parts pc assemble it and be able to play hddvd or blueray. Is that true? Will it cost the same lang as the hd-a1 player? I did not believe him and I know they will come out with a toshiba laptop that have a hddvd drive. Thats all I know. My second question is anybody have experience buying this player abroad and brought it in here, how much did it cost if ever. Will it be way cheaper than the one they sell locally here at 39000. Thanks
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hello just have a couple of questions. My cousin was saying that it is available now to buy generic parts pc assemble it and be able to play hddvd or blueray. Is that true? Will it cost the same lang as the hd-a1 player? I did not believe him and I know they will come out with a toshiba laptop that have a hddvd drive. Thats all I know. My second question is anybody have experience buying this player abroad and brought it in here, how much did it cost if ever. Will it be way cheaper than the one they sell locally here at 39000. Thanks
I have no idea about building a combo hd dvd/blu-ray htpc, but I know Toshiba has already released a laptop Toshiba Qosmio G35-AV650 Laptop PC which costs $2999 :o :o. I did that route, bought a HD-A1 online and had it ship thru a Philippine Shipper's US address, and then had it shipped here. 30 percent cheaper than that price, but there are risks. Risk of damage or loss and some difficulty of aftersales service if something went wrong with the player (Toshiba Philippines wont be a help coz its not officially launched here, but at least the local vendor might offer some form of after sales help).
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HD DVD- DVD comparison pics... Troy (from xradman, avsforum)
(http://www.highdefdigest.com/images/post/0/894/original.pjpeg)
(http://www.highdefdigest.com/images/post/0/895/original.pjpeg)
(http://www.highdefdigest.com/images/post/0/896/original.pjpeg)
(http://www.highdefdigest.com/images/post/0/897/original.pjpeg)
(http://www.highdefdigest.com/images/post/0/921/original.jpeg)
(http://www.highdefdigest.com/images/post/0/922/original.jpeg)
(http://www.highdefdigest.com/images/post/0/916/original.jpeg)
(http://www.highdefdigest.com/images/post/0/917/original.jpeg)
(http://www.highdefdigest.com/images/post/0/900/original.pjpeg)
(http://www.highdefdigest.com/images/post/0/899/original.pjpeg)
(http://www.highdefdigest.com/images/post/0/901/original.pjpeg)
(http://www.highdefdigest.com/images/post/0/902/original.pjpeg)
(http://www.highdefdigest.com/images/post/0/914/original.jpeg)
(http://www.highdefdigest.com/images/post/0/915/original.jpeg)
Notes about these photos from xradman (avsforum):
The pictures are taken from projected image on my HT. The screen is ~12 feet wide (150" diagonal for this 2.35:1 film) and painted in light grey color. The specifics are as follows:
Projector: Dukane Image Pro 9000D D-ILA (Same as JVC G10) 1365x1024 native resolution
HD-DVD Player: Toshiba HD-XA1 FW 2.0 connected using component output at 1080i
SD-DVD Player: HTPC running ZoomPlayer and FFDSHOW (2005-11-15) with following parameters connected using VGA (resolution 1360 x 850 via Powerstrip and perfect 1:1 pixel match)
WinDVD Video Filter
VMR9 Renderless
HQ Denoise 3D Chroma 2.0 Time 4.0
Resize 1360x850
Multiply 2.00
Lanczos 2.00
Luma Sharpen 1.20 Chroma Sharpen 0
The projected images were captured with Nikon Coolpix 8800VR at 3264x2448.
The image was then cropped in Photoshop and resized to 50%. The image was then saved in JPG (High Quality 8).
The caveats with this method are as follows:
1. Projector is unable to fully resolve HD-DVD resolution
2. The 1080i image is somewhat cropped (overscan) compared to HTPC image (no overscan)
3. The colors have not been correctly calibrated
4. The image is a photo that has been resampled and reduced in size
5. Unclear whether paused image on HD-DVD is at full resolution or half since it's 1080i
6. Finally, it's very difficult to find an image that is not in motion; the moving image looks much better than the still image
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1. Projector is unable to fully resolve HD-DVD resolution
2. The 1080i image is somewhat cropped (overscan) compared to HTPC image (no overscan)
3. The colors have not been correctly calibrated
4. The image is a photo that has been resampled and reduced in size
5. Unclear whether paused image on HD-DVD is at full resolution or half since it's 1080i
6. Finally, it's very difficult to find an image that is not in motion; the moving image looks much better than the still image
Inspite of these, those comparative pics are quite telling about HD's superirority. I suppose an LCD screen is still best for more riveting detail.
Just confirms what every HD early adopters have said: high def is so detailed it shows skin imperfections very clearly. And some hollywood stars don't lonk good in it. Makes me guess it won't be good on porn. ;D
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thanks sir Munskie, ya want to get my hands on one of these. Im thinking ordering maybe from amazon, if they have it. wonder how the shipping will be safe from damage, and also meron return policy ata kung na damage. Another route is pabili from my parents in Houston and have them ship it thru FRS. They have branch in Houston and here in timog ave. Send as balikbayan box but yun lang ulit im scared masira thru this kind of shipping. Its such hassle to return etc. etc. Better talaga to just buy it here but unfortunately layo ng price niya dito
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if you want to get a HD-A1, better decide fast coz the 2nd gen units will be released soon, especially the HD-A2. The HD-A1 is perceived(especially in avsforum) to be of better value than the HD-A2 for the simple fact that the 2nd Gen model has no analog 5.1 outputs...which is essential if you dont have a hdmi switching AVR. With the analog 5.1, you can have access to Dolby Digital Plus and Dolby TrueHD plus any other new surround formats that could be introduced. Plus HD-A1 can be had at $399 now thats a full $100 off from its msrp. The higher 2nd gen model, HD-XA2 which has the 5.1 analogs, will now be priced at $1000....
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to release this october 31:
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A good samaritan from avsforum sent me his official Toshiba Firmware 2.0 disc update and just received the CD today. This will enable the HD-A1/HD-XA1 to have Dolby TrueHD 5.1 support, and improvements in 720p resolution. Ive already updated my unit and it took me just 8-10 minutes to update from 1.4 to 2.0. If someone is interested, you can pm me. thanks. :)
Thanks a lot Dr. David Susilo.... :)
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Saw the Toshiba HD DVD player awhile ago with a 42" plasma at Spectra.
Cool! very detailed PQ. But still I (and my pocket ;D) can & will wait for the format war to settle down first.
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I was there last night and saw SAHARA playing on their Tosh A1. Price tag is 39T. I didn't ask about the connection, it was impressive alright but I could have sworn there was some jaggedness in a diangonal line in one scene. Maybe the setting was not optimized for HD. Or maybe it was the plasma. It wasn't as impressive as a Bravia LCD.
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I saw those jaggies too! specially on the dark scenes of the first part of Sahara.
The first part with lots of dark scenes wasnt impressive too. Not much difference from SD. But when the intro started and showed the details of the office...W :o W
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hmmm.....buti diko kinonsider ang Sahara.....but heres the review from highdefdigest for reference:
" Indeed, just about every aspect of this presentation is quite excellent. The source material is pristine, with not a speckle of dirt or other blemishes noticeable, and the kind of smooth, grain-free look that looks more like a digital photo than film. Color reproduction is also impressive -- hues are rich, vivid and free of chroma noise and smearing. Fleshtones are also a realistic shade of orange, which gives the film a warm glow that is very appealing. Blacks and contrast are also excellent, with even the film's few dark scenes (indeed, the vast majority of 'Sahara' takes place in sunshine-soaked daytime exteriors) boasting above-average shadow delineation. At times the level of detail and depth to the image closes in on the best HD DVD transfers I've seen, with the kind of three-dimensional appearance that really shows off the high-resolution capabilities of the format.
However, I will say that there are the occasional moments that are lacking in sharpness, or when colors look overpumped. Still, these are fairly minor quibbles. I can't imagine anyone failing to be impressed in gneeral by this transfer, and with 'Sahara' Paramount has certainly announced itself as being more than capable of delivering high-quality pre-recorded HD content."
The reviews for Mission: Impossible III for Blu-Ray and HD DVD are already up too.....the result? acddg to the reviewer...its a dead heat as far as PQ is concerned (MPEG2 vs VC1)....its just in the exclusive HD bonus content that HD DVD outshines Blu-Ray.....there was no PIP interactive commentary for Blu-Ray.
Mission: Impossible III (Blu-Ray) (http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/missionimpossibleiii.html)
Mission: Impossible III (HD DVD) (http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/missionimpossibleiii.html)
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It is only now that BD is coming out with excellent PQ for its releases. Thanks to a higher bitrate and large file sizes than can be put into a dual layered BD50. But it is not representative of the entire BD releases todate. The inconsistent PQ in the BD releases doesn't speak nicely about the BD format in the face of a more consistent PQ in HD DVD. The culprit is Sony's insistent use of the old mpeg2 codec which has been shown to be inferior to VC-1. When all the other studios are using VC-1 and/or AVC, Sony's use of the mpeg2 handicaps the format from being a NEXT GEN format. From a technological point, using mepg2 can only bring at par with hd dvd's vc1 codes, but never exceed it in quality. And how can it be considered NExt Gen when it is using a decades old compression codec designed for standard DVD. Untoil Sony start using VC-1, which is rumored to be happen soon, BD will continue to be handicapped with inconsitent PQ with the need for large storage capacity. VC-1 is a more efficient codec requring only half the bitrates and file sizes to achieve the same PQ. So it would be in the interest of SOny to adopt it.
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Here's Highdefdigest's interview with a Sony Executive. It was later described in forums that Sony Execs were arrogant and being defensive about its initial releases (blaming the mediocre PQ of its initial releases as a result of consumer's uncalibrated screens and the film's masters)...even branding the VC-1 as a major propaganda push by Microsoft. Here's the full interview:
Into the Blu: A Visit with Sony Pictures Home Entertainment (http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/feature_visitwithsony.html)
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Yes, this interview with Don Eklund has been ridiculed and laughed at by pundits in the AV forums I've visited.
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Saw the Toshiba HD DVD player awhile ago with a 42" plasma at Spectra.
Cool! very detailed PQ. But still I (and my pocket ;D) can & will wait for the format war to settle down first.
m also drooling on this player...but to me there are some plus and minuses waiting for the war to settle down or purchase it now
pluses: enjoy real HD now, reasonable prices on hddvd disc
minus: 1. if we wait for the war to settle, we will still be buying standard disc which we can already buy the hddvd version, which I think buying standard disc now will just go to waste if we are heading toward hddvd or bd..unless we buy those dual sided (I think hddvd and standard) but more expensive.
2. What if hddvd loses out..but to me there is still a solution (for hddvd) because already enjoyed the hidef and can continue viewing hddvd disc one owns..Just have to buy BD player which I will think will already be down to a reasonable price when the war settles, just have to buy BD disc again.. If hddvd wins (which I preferably want to settle this war faster) no problemo for hddvd owners..
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Couldn't agree more, plus the fact that the Tosh A1 is an excellent upsampling player for your SD DVDs. Now if only I had to moolah to get a 42" Bravia, a $399 player from amazon shouldn't be a problem. ;D
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m also drooling on this player...but to me there are some plus and minuses waiting for the war to settle down or purchase it now
pluses: enjoy real HD now, reasonable prices on hddvd disc
minus: 1. if we wait for the war to settle, we will still be buying standard disc which we can already buy the hddvd version, which I think buying standard disc now will just go to waste if we are heading toward hddvd or bd..unless we buy those dual sided (I think hddvd and standard) but more expensive.
2. What if hddvd loses out..but to me there is still a solution (for hddvd) because already enjoyed the hidef and can continue viewing hddvd disc one owns..Just have to buy BD player which I will think will already be down to a reasonable price when the war settles, just have to buy BD disc again.. If hddvd wins (which I preferably want to settle this war faster) no problemo for hddvd owners..
thats the risk/gamble one has to take in the pursuit and desire to watch HD. For me, I have taken the HD DVD route for now for the simple fact that it is the most logical and affordable way I could get my hands on pre-recorded HD video. The HD-A1 is half the price of the cheapest stand-alone player available for BD......
Moks has a good point too...I dont have to buy the HD versions of titles I could have bought in SD if I decided to wait.
For now, BD releases are getting better....so the war is just starting to heat up. Maybe in a year or two, worst case scenario for me, If HD DVD loses, I still wont regret it....by that time I should have watched a considerable amount of great titles through it.......and I reckon, by that time, theres already a cheaper, affordable gen2 or gen3 Blu-ray player waiting in the wings...
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I don't see how BD can exceed the HD-DVD offerings. They were pathetic at the start, inconsitent over the last months and only now getting up to speed. With SOny's lackluster treatment of its markets, I wouldn't get a BD at all. If all the HT market were to snub BD, I think we should have a clear winner by december 2007. Then all the studios will be swinging to Hd Dvd.
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Hoping LionsGate and Disney will cross the line and announce HD DVD tiles by January 2007...around the CES in Vegas.....as analyzed by industry insiders ;)
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I think this is well anticipated by early HD adopters - that these studios will support both formats at least - finally realizing the folly of their earlier decision.
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OK na po ba ang price na P29,450 for the Toshiba HD-A1?
TIA
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yes. I think ok na ok na yan....sino na nagbibigay ng ganyang price? :) I have firmware CD 2.0 if you are interested.
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yes. I think ok na ok na yan....sino na nagbibigay ng ganyang price? :) I have firmware CD 2.0 if you are interested.
Thanks :). A seller from tipidPC is selling laptops and also offering imports of PC parts fro US - http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=651070 . tanong ko rin kung paano payment, delivery/time, and warranty. new seller po ito dun sa site kaya wala pa record o feedback on how he transact- sana totoo.
sir, thanks for the offer on the firmaware. pahiram na lang pag natuloy :)
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Thanks :). A seller from tipidPC is selling laptops and also offering imports of PC parts fro US - http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=651070 . tanong ko rin kung paano payment, delivery/time, and warranty. new seller po ito dun sa site kaya wala pa record o feedback on how he transact- sana totoo.
sir, thanks for the offer on the firmaware. pahiram na lang pag natuloy :)
sir, i have no idea regarding the reliability of tipidpc. I went the amazon--johnny air cargo route, medyo delikado nga lang sa shipping, but saved me a lot. :)
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sir, i have no idea regarding the reliability of tipidpc. I went the amazon--johnny air cargo route, medyo delikado nga lang sa shipping, but saved me a lot. :)
medyo me risk nga pero pag COD ang arrangement baka order ako :). sir, pa-PM naman nung total cost kung mag amazon-JAC route ako.
TIA
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kuha ka na sir.....you got pm... ;D
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many thanks sir, got your PM.
konting pagpipigil pa ;D ... kulang pa budget ;D
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Thanks :). A seller from tipidPC is selling laptops and also offering imports of PC parts fro US - http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=651070 . tanong ko rin kung paano payment, delivery/time, and warranty. new seller po ito dun sa site kaya wala pa record o feedback on how he transact- sana totoo.
in case others are interested, the seller informed me that arrangement is COD with Toshiba international warranty - 90 days labor warranty and 1 year parts. seller will also give 2 weeks personal warranty ( refund money 2weeks upon return of item ). very tempting offer :)
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kuha ka na sir.....you got pm... ;D
sir , may i have the same pm ???
papaano naman ang warranty kapag Amazon-JAC route ?
did Amazon arrange for special packaging or is it just the original Toshiba box ?
thanks
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bro, i forgot to add sa pm, the player came with the original box of toshiba, but originally, the reseller used a bigger box for extra protection, but pinaalis ko sa JAC coz it so big, malaki rin yung shipping charge.... :)
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Ive decided to hold off and wait for a couple of years My reasons are
1. Hassle of shipment from the states, might be risky from damage
2. Hddvd disc is too costly for me in the long run, more than a 1000 pesos for each film, unlike dvd at the moment they have 299, 375, 550 etc.
3. If I use this partly for upconversion, I have about 70 to 80 percent Region 3 disc. Useless for its for Region 1 only.
I might just get the Sony NS76H for the meantime, I read nice PQ for this machine..
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Just in.....
Toshiba HD-A1 HD DVD player..available at SGT Home Theater for P33k........ for details...812-5235.. ;D ;D
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wow best price so far in Phils. I was at the hifi show last Sunday and saw a toshiba hddvd on a panasonic plasma, 42 inch or 50 m not sure, they were playing the last samurai, man it was awesome looking..I just wish at that moment I have so much money.. hehehe
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ok na ok na 33k......wla na risk of loss and damage to kumpara sa ginawa ko na nag import........ :)
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If I had a 42" 1080i HDTV worth 160T+, 33T for a player to really max the display shouldn't be a problem. ;D
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thats the catch.... ;D ;D cant dance without that HDTV.....but prices are falling....made easier by zero interest installment plans.....
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makikisingit lang po. ang pagkakaalam ko meron na mga bago models lalabas toshiba hd dvd. the HD-XF2 and HD-XA2. sa december ata
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makikisingit lang po. ang pagkakaalam ko meron na mga bago models lalabas toshiba hd dvd. the HD-XF2 and HD-XA2. sa december ata
yes mac mac....the US models are the $500 HD-A2 and the $1000 HD-XA2.....but the HD-A2 doesnt have 5.1 analog outputs.....which the first gen HD-A1 have.....you have to go shell out for the higher model to experience the new surround formats through the 5.1 analogs...
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A seller from tipidPC is selling laptops and also offering imports of PC parts fro US - http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=651070 . tanong ko rin kung paano payment, delivery/time, and warranty. new seller po ito dun sa site kaya wala pa record o feedback on how he transact- sana totoo.
I just got my HD-A1 from a tipidPC seller. he delivered it to my house. made some quick test (composite video connection on 29"TV) just to see if it works. tried a HD-DVD, R1 DVD, and p..DVD discs ;D - all played without problems. paid P29,450 for the unit. :)
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I just got my HD-A1 from a tipidPC seller. he delivered it to my house. made some quick test (composite video connection on 29"TV) just to see if it works. tried a HD-DVD, R1 DVD, and p..DVD discs ;D - all played without problems. paid P29,450 for the unit. :)
congrats sir on yer new toy... ;D ;D
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at 29 thou I wouldnt play p****d disc on it
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Well, don't worry, there won't be pirated HD DVD discs for a long long time. And it's region locked to R1 for regular SD-DVD discs anyway. ;D
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congrats sir on yer new toy... ;D ;D
Munskie, thanks. :)
balik kahon muna yung player :( kailangang mag-upgrade ng projector with long HDMI cable. hay...gastos nanaman ;D ;D.
sir, open pa ba yung offer mo dun sa CD2.0 firmware?
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yes sir, just pm me your name and address, i can send the firmware 2.0 CD....
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yes sir, just pm me your name and address, i can send the firmware 2.0 CD....
sir, many thanks.
you got PM :)
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Well, don't worry, there won't be pirated HD DVD discs for a long long time. And it's region locked to R1 for regular SD-DVD discs anyway. ;D
ya thats what I know also but if you notice on rmpmla's quote, he stated p..dvd disc as one of the disc he tried that worked. I assume this is pirated discs?
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Tried p*****d disc with the HD-A1 and it played fine rin.... :)
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ya thats what I know also but if you notice on rmpmla's quote, he stated p..dvd disc as one of the disc he tried that worked. I assume this is pirated discs?
the HD-A1 player is locked to R-1. but it can also play All Region DVD disc and most P......dvd discs are R-ALL :)
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hi munskie. have a 3 week old toshiba HD-A1 as well but still with the old firmware. was wondering if you
could loan your CD to me after rmpmla is done with it? i have inquired from my dealer about this upgrade but it's taking them quite a long time to procure the software. with your help, i believe i could maximize the full potential of this player.
the video display resolution that this player provides my monitor is simply awesome and breathtaking! even my wife who doesn't share the same interest i do in HT, noticed the big difference. she even found out that tom cruise in THE LAST SAMURAI was not flawless afterall :) his skin blemishes, pimples and even skin pores could be easily seen in some scenes. talk about detail!
i just hope HD DVD players/softwares does not go into extinction coz according to my brother in law who got me my HD DVD softwares from the US, blu ray has caught up with the HD DVD fad in terms of sales with a full potential of overtaking it in a few months. when he went to circuit city to get me some HD DVD titles, he noticed that there were no HD DVD softwares displayed on their racks. only blu ray discs were on displayed. when he inquired from one of the attendants about the availability of of HD DVD, the attendant said that they have some titles in"stock", and literally speaking. attendant was referring that the HD DVD softwares were all in the stock room. when asked why this is so, the attendant simply said, that the HD DVD weren't selling as hot as the blu ray. oh well, i hope this is just an isolated incident going on in that area.
my brother in law still managed to stash me about 7 titles though not the ones i originally preferred. can anybody point me to the right people in the PDVD community who sells HD DVD softwares at reasonable prices? good day to everyone!
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rmpmla and ninja,
sorry for the delay. I was so busy the whole week. Ill send the firmware disc tomorrow to rmpmla. ninja, you could coordinate with him how the disc can be send out to you. about the circuit city incident, you could also look up avsforum regarding propaganda and strategies in display shelves.....youll be surprised......
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munskie and ninja,
very sorry for not replying earlier. ngayon ko lang uli nabasa yung thread an ito :-[.
ninja, i have the firmware 2.0 CD courtesy of sir Munskie. ngayon ko pa lang na-install yung HD-A1 ;D kasi meron na ko nito -
blue jeans 25 ft 24AWG HDMI cable
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ninja, pa PM na lang sir your address and i will send the firmware CD to you. or if you're in metro manila pwede ko i-deliver :)
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hi rmpmla. thanks for the notice. sent you a PM.
munskie, will send the CD back to you soon as i'm done. thank you very much.
happy holidays to everyone!
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hi rmpmla. thanks for the notice. sent you a PM.
munskie, will send the CD back to you soon as i'm done. thank you very much.
happy holidays to everyone!
sir, replied to your PM.
see you :)
Merry Christmas!
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hello, I think im about 80 percent ready to go into the hd market, can you guys give me few suggestions. Ok Im thinking of buying a modified xbox 360 ( Is it ok to state this here in the forum, if not pls delete this moderators ) I have to choose this because for 21 thousand with 10 games included, its ok with me because regular xbox game disc cost 3 to 4 thousand bucks per disc. Anyway as Milk stated the hddvd drive will work on these asian versions, so since my parents are in america will ask them to get one for me, its now about 189 usd in amazon. Should I go into this since I also love gaming (mostly sports). One thing with this addon drive I heard the audio is not that good. My other option is of course the toshiba A1 but no gaming, So this is my thinking if hddvd loses out I only lose 189 usd and the hddvd discs I bought, of course. However, I will still have the gaming machine. On the other hand, If I bought the A1 I will blow around 36 thou if hddvd loses. Of course we will not know what will happen down the road which nobody knows it will take maybe 3 to 4 years (earlier or later) to declare the winner, which of course "sulit" na with the toshiba A1. So what do you guys think I should do. Thanks
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I'm no gamer so I'd prefer the Tosh A1. The format wars will last a long while. And we're not talking 3 years here, more like 5 years. Your Tosh A1 could already be dead by that time and prices of new HD DVD players would have come down to maybe less than $200. Should the war swing to Blu ray's favor at that time, it's not as if it will come instantly. Remember that the Betamax lingered years after the dominance of the VHS became clear. So even if you've already stacked a lot on HD DVD titles, they'd still be viewable years after blu ray has become dominant, with HD DVD players selling for just a song. If even if that happens, HD DVD would still look great.
Also, if the war lasts any longer than 2 years, expect dual format players to arrive and many studios to start releasing in both formats. Todate, apart from Warner and Paramount releasing in both foramts, many Blu Ray exclusive tiltles in the US market are released as HD DVD in Europe, and I heard vice versa. So I am confident, 2 years down the road, when both formats already enjoy some market following too large to ignore, the rest of the major studios would start releasing titles in both. (And there are rumors Disney would start to support HD DVD next year.) They are not stupid to overlook revenue potnetials. Their loyalty to formats will end when their treasury department starts asking for more revenues. ;D
So you're next player could very well be a dual format player. And with that, consumers wouldn't bother about formats as they'd just get the titles they want regarless of which format they're in. And should one format win eventually, dual format players guarantee that won't matter at all.
OTH, if you're a gamer and already own a 360 (which I asumme you will own anyway), the HD DVD add-on is a natural. PQ is no less than what you'd get with the Tosh A1. But yes, you won't get DobyTrueHD because it has no HDMI to get uncompressed LPCM from those lossless codecs. You'd get a downmixed Dolby 5.1 thru its toslink out. Bottomline, the audio would be no better from your current DVD audio on DD. IF that matters a lot to you, then I'd skip on the add-on and get a standalone player. ;D And I don't really buy the argument that if BD wins you'd still have a gaming console to use. Perhaps. But I am more inclined to think that by the time BD wins, either your 360 console would have died on you or would most likely be obsolete and superceded by a new xbox game console. ;D
Personally, I'd leave the games for game consoles and HT viewing to standalone players. I read somewhere that serious HT enthusiasts really won't want to be caught dead with a game console as their video player in their AV racks. ;D Snobbish but mostly true I would think.
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ok thanks so much, yes I read somewhere NEC already came out with a chip (I think) that can read both blue ray and hddvd. Ya I think it will come down to the studios on which format will eventually survive. I dont know if studios will prolong their dual support because of cost, (if one doesnt sell as much as the other they might withdraw support.) I think maybe these studios are just testing the waters at the moment to see which format will come out stronger and eventually withdraw from the weaker one, thats the possibility im looking at...
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NEC, Ricoh have the patents to make dual format players and I heard Samsung and Pioneer are quite ready for that. The rumor is that $ony et al don't want to license their BD to such players because that would essentially cement its coexistence with HD DVD - something they don't want because it has been their aim from the very start for BD to be the ONE and ONLY ONE high definition format to succeed DVD. No one else. At this point in time, they want to win. Not coexist with another format.
For me, their arrogance will be their downfall. Right now. BD is leading only in Japan, Not in Europe, Not in the US, Too early they say, but for me it's fast starting to look like a repeat of the betamax fiasco when it was leading only in Japan while the rest of the world was going VHS.
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hello, I just got the xbox 360 and playing it on my Samsung 32R71 and wow I can say it is fantastic. Never had this kind of gaming and graphics so im so happy, Just a question will these game machines ruin my lcd in the long run? I heard before these console game machines are not recommended for your tv. One should have a cheaper or separate tv for it?
Another thing now is im thinking to get the hddvd drive, saw one in data blitz park square for 12 plus thou, but when thinking about it, is it worth it for now because come to think of it...
Here goes.
1. Is it really worth it to upgrade to the hidef market, spend some more money to watch clearer videos. I said this because I will
a. double dip on titles, of course hddvd or blue ray is way better than standard dvds and I can sell the old dvds which will solve my double dipping. But to spend all over again, im reconsidering..
b. at 20 to 30 dollars a movie and at the moment selected movies for hddvd and blue ray. Also considering one will just watch a movie once the most 2 or 3 times, Is it worth it. For me I cant watch movies more than 3 times per title.
C. Selected titles (need more studio support) and budget hehe, From the list of titles at the moment I might end up with just 5 to 10 titles by year end 2007. I just dont see buying average movies at high definition when I already have it on standard dvd. I would buy titles like last samurai, batman begins, v for vendetta, and some others but the others I may pass...In other words I will buy truly good and favorite movies for my taste and selection, which for me is worth it for the hi def, but other titles that I already have for dvds, its not worth it for me..
Its really tempting to buy the add on drive for such a good price, but the things I stated above is making me reconsider. Any input from you guys( owners and non-owners of hddvd) for me to decide would be appreciated. Thanks
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sir, congrats on your new XBOX 360. I think Plasma displays and CRT rear PJTVs are more susceptible to burn in than LCD sets. Kaya have no fear playing games with your LCD tv.
1. Is it really worth it to upgrade to the hidef market, spend some more money to watch clearer videos.
as far as PQ is concerned. definitely yes. after watching HD...(regardless of format, especially reference titles), theres just no turning back. Experience though vary. You may not see much difference with smaller screens, but definitely a night and day difference with those having 50 inches + flat displays or those with PJs.
a. double dip on titles, of course hddvd or blue ray is way better than standard dvds and I can sell the old dvds which will solve my double dipping. But to spend all over again, im reconsidering..
Heres my strategy on double dipping....(this would have been an easier decision if theres no format war, as ive could have made a stronger recommendation)...ill only buy HD versions of titles i already own in SD DVD only if I really like the movie....and are considered a top or 2nd tier in terms of PQ and SQ. But far as HD releases of catalog titles I dont own in DVD, and HD releases of new titles, my pre req for purchasing is also the same...though I dont factor in the double dipping cost now. Since upgrading, ive purchased only 1 DVD (da vinci code..i just have to watch it) I have stopped since then.....first, theres just really no turning back as far PQ is concerned...2nd, i wont be susceptible for double dips anymore.....at least from DVD to HD.
b. at 20 to 30 dollars a movie and at the moment selected movies for hddvd and blue ray. Also considering one will just watch a movie once the most 2 or 3 times, Is it worth it. For me I cant watch movies more than 3 times per title.
this is definitely a cost standpoint....kaya its a personal decision actually if its worth it or not. At my average of 22-25 dollars (that includes shipping for me), price is really close to 2 disc SE/LE/DE/CE versions in DVD, thats the way I look at it. but IMO...the price I pay experincing HD at home is really worth it....even more.
C. Selected titles (need more studio support) and budget hehe, From the list of titles at the moment I might end up with just 5 to 10 titles by year end 2007. I just dont see buying average movies at high definition when I already have it on standard dvd. I would buy titles like last samurai, batman begins, v for vendetta, and some others but the others I may pass...In other words I will buy truly good and favorite movies for my taste and selection, which for me is worth it for the hi def, but other titles that I already have for dvds, its not worth it for me..
this is where the format war costs me, as far as my decision to go HD DVD is concerned. some titles in Blu-ray like tears of the sun...kingdom of heaven...X3....these are some titles i covet over at BD camp (thats why im sitting at the fence of a PS3). but no need to worry....12k for me is a steal for the HD DVD add-on player. HD DVD may trail as far as studio support is concerned, but its still has neutrals Warner and Paramount..and backer UNiversal on its side. Just wait for more announcements.....studios are looking at HD as the future goldmine...kaya HD format in general is just in its infancy. imagine people buying catalog titles again (even if they the dvd copies), but this time in HD? maybe in 3-5 years.
hope this helps in your decision. ;D ;D
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Once you have a high def player, it gets very tempting to double dip with HD titles you already have on SD. But I think that will happen only with your excitement to savour the experiential beneifts watching HD on your HDTV set at the start. After a while, you'd be wiser to get the HD titles of your preference. I know many early adopters who have likewise realized that the 200+ SD titles they have acumulated are just sitting on shelves rarely watched more than once. And so have promised themselves only to get HD titles that really matter to them and just go with the rental route. But that's in the US and Britain. I figure it will take another 5 years for Video City to carry HD DVD and Blu Ray discs for rent.
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this is where the format war costs me, as far as my decision to go HD DVD is concerned. some titles in Blu-ray like tears of the sun...kingdom of heaven...X3....these are some titles i covet over at BD camp (thats why im sitting at the fence of a PS3).
It may be interesting to note that some if not many of the BD exclusives in the US will be released as HD DVD in Europe and Japan. Miramax/Disney and Bueva Vista are BD exclusive territory right? But only in the US. Their Brothers Grimm, Equilibrium, Finding Neverland are released as HD DVD in Japan. Don't ask me why. Still researching on this. ;D
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Yup sir AV, the film distributors (which are different from the US distributors) in some areas like europe and japan are HD DVD friendly.........if not for the costs (they are priced from $35-50, which is exorbitant), i would definitely consider them. Its great that HD DVD until now is region coding free....though the DVD forum is planning to install one..... ;D ;D
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That may be. But my understanding is that region coded HD DVD discs will be backwards compatible, hence playable on early region-free players. So in that regard, early HD DVD adopters are lucky. ;D
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BD has already worked out its bugs and a lot of companies (Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips, Samsung, Sony, Sharp, Lite-On, Mitsubishi...) came out or will soon release different choices of BD players, unlike HD DVD which only has Toshiba and RCA(?) waving the flag. Maraming industry forces are working against HD DVD :-[ Kailangan pa mag-petition yung HD-DVD adopters para lang manood ng Disney pictures :'( :'(
http://www.blu-ray.com/players/
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/193126108?ltl=1167132114
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No need, Disney films and other BD exclusives in the US are starting to sprout as HD DVD in Europe and Japan and some even ahead of their exclusive BD releases in the US.
Brothers Grimm is Disney BD exclusive released as HD DVD in Japan.
Reign of Fire is Disney BD exclusive in the US released as HD DVD in Japan
Terminator 2, Lionsgate in the US (BD exclusive) is released as HD DVD in Europe courtesy of Studio Canal.
Saw 1,2,3, another Lionsgate BD exclusive in US is released as HD DVD in Europe by Studio Canal
Rambo Trilogy, anther Lionsgate BD in the US is released as HD DVD in Europe
Basic Instinct 2, Sony/MGM BD exclusive in the US released as HD DVD in europe also by Studio Canal.
XXX and Equilibirum, BD exclusives in the US released as HD DVD in Japan,
Resident Evil is Sony Columbia Tristar released as HD DVD in Japan.
There are presumably more titles. Disney films exclusive to BD in the US but not everywhere else in the world. Distribution deals in different continents apparently account for this. Ain't it GREAT not having region coding for HD DVD users. ;D
The only studios that have real format exclusivity are FOX (BD) and Universal (HD DVD) because they handle their title distribution world wide. WARNER and PARAMOUNT also handle their distribution worldwide, but they already release in BOTH formats so they don't figure. ;D
BTW, don't shoot me as I got the information from another av forum. ;D Feel free to verify.
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Maraming industry forces are working against HD DVD :-[
Nothing new there. HD DVD was and has always been the UNDERDOG in this war eversince.
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BD has already worked out its bugs and a lot of companies (Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips, Samsung, Sony, Sharp, Lite-On, Mitsubishi...) came out or will soon release different choices of BD players, unlike HD DVD which only has Toshiba and RCA(?) waving the flag. Maraming industry forces are working against HD DVD :-[ Kailangan pa mag-petition yung HD-DVD adopters para lang manood ng Disney pictures :'( :'(
http://www.blu-ray.com/players/
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/193126108?ltl=1167132114
sana lets bring this stuff sa War Begins Thread..... :)
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i bought an hd dvd add on with my xbox360 and i like it so far, the unit with the console is silent in operation which is in contrast when playing games. still there are titles on blue ray that i wish will be in hd dvd. thats why i am waiting for my ps3. HD rocks!!!
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i bought an hd dvd add on with my xbox360 and i like it so far, the unit with the console is silent in operation which is in contrast when playing games. still there are titles on blue ray that i wish will be in hd dvd. thats why i am waiting for my ps3. HD rocks!!!
Congrats!!! Happy HD viewing in the New Year. ;D
And don't worry. A lot of BD exclusives in the US are being released as HD DVD in Europpe and Japan. And because HD DVD is region-free, you can order these titles you like online. See my post above. ;D
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Tosh-A2 (http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-HD-A2-HD-DVD-Player/dp/B000IJV4BC/ref=br_lf_m__1_1_clkmr/104-2008173-0418310?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=electronics)
;D
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ok thanks very much sir Munskie, I will let you guys know my decision hehe...
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Tnx for the advice to both av_phile1 & Munskie. I'm convinced & have jumped into the bandwagon. I've ordered the Tosh HD-A2 as well...gosh so excited na ;D
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From the topic above and what I’ve understood the bottom line is current HD-DVD players from Toshiba beats most if not all up sampling DVD players in the market these days that costs almost the same if not more expensive, right? And if one wishes to go the extra mile when comes to upgrading ones HT, he should watch out for the Toshiba HD-DVD XE1 (Europe release), a receiver that has HDMI 1.3 input, and a TV in form of Plasma, Projector, or LCD that has HDMI of the same.
:)
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The spec of the HD-XE1 is similar to the HD-XA2. Instead of A (America), it uses E (European) lang. ;D
Yeah, it would be nice if we have deep pockets to upgrade & get all the goodies...yummy :P Those who bought the XA2 or XE1, if wish to upgrade will have to wait for a while as currently there's no AV receiver & HDTV that conform to the newest HDMI 1.3 spec.
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thanks also sir av_phile1 and the rest for your inputs...Im really tempted called park square data blitz yesterday inquiring about the addon its out of stock..Thats one thing here in the Phil not much supply. Thou its also hot item in America its little bit hard to find but I think after Christmas should be ok...The thing is waiting for the next supply here will take a while I think. Oh well..at least hold off sa gastus.
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There is also expected announcements this coming CES I think in Vegas this Jan. 7... by both camps I wonder what its gonna be...Stay tuned
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Everyone is very curious what's the news that Tosh will announce. Cheaper price on their new upcoming models? The soon to be released 3rd gen players? ;D
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Yeah, enthusiasts are earnestly waiting for some big announcements....specifically hoping for some studios crossing over and going neutral. HD DVD backers are waiting for more title releases as the BD camp had already swamped the first two months with announced releases. If no big announcements are made for HD DVD, I guess I wont be sitting in front of PS3's fence for long......my wife promised me one for my Birthday.....in September!!! hahahaha ;D ;D ;D
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Yeah, enthusiasts are earnestly waiting for some big announcements....specifically hoping for some studios crossing over and going neutral. HD DVD backers are waiting for more title releases as the BD camp had already swamped the first two months with announced releases. If no big announcements are made for HD DVD, I guess I wont be sitting in front of PS3's fence for long......my wife promised me one for my Birthday.....in September!!! hahahaha ;D ;D ;D
HI marv,just want to ask if its true that hddvd are the same as sd dvd in terms of material?meaning its still prone to scratches? I also heard that blu ray dvds are scratch proof na and also washable(in case its full of finger prints ;D)
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ricky, HD DVD essentially has the same disc structure as SD DVD....kaya its cheaper to reproduce.....in terms of scratches...the data in Blu-ray is closer to the the surface of the disc so the consortium decided to put some kind of a hard coat technology....i dont know if they are washable, but they can be safely cleaned with tissue..... :) :) salamat sa wikipedia... ;D ;D
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Everyone is very curious what's the news that Tosh will announce. Cheaper price on their new upcoming models? The soon to be released 3rd gen players? ;D
I read rumours on some other forums that Toshiba plan to go for the kill - slashing prices down to $299 for their models - somethng BD is not prepared to go into: a price war. Rumor lang naman. ;D
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I read rumours on some other forums that Toshiba plan to go for the kill - slashing prices down to $299 for their models - somethng BD is not prepared to go into: a price war. Rumor lang naman. ;D
wow!!! if that is indeed true...thats essentially less than P15k!!! you get a very good upconverting player...and a HD player to boot.....
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For small fries like me, problema lang yung titles. Wala pang pirated. ;D And if AACS hold out, baka mas mahal pa pirated. ;D
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Tnx for the advice to both av_phile1 & Munskie. I'm convinced & have jumped into the bandwagon. I've ordered the Tosh HD-A2 as well...gosh so excited na ;D
Good to know the HD tribe in increasing. Online ba? When do you expect delivery? Any titles you've ordered with it?
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Yep, I ordered it from an independent supplier thru Amazon. The supplier notified me today that the good has been received na by JAC in New York. As per Aura Black, there's a sked delivery tomorrow so this mean I can get my new Tosh by next week na..hooray! :D
As for the HD-DVD movies, placed an order for: Hulk, Poseidon, We were soldiers & Fearless but looks like these will arrive the week after my HD player :-[
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Yep, I ordered it from an independent supplier thru Amazon. The supplier notified me today that the good has been received na by JAC in New York. As per Aura Black, there's a sked delivery tomorrow so this mean I can get my new Tosh by next week na..hooray! :D
As for the HD-DVD movies, placed an order for: Hulk, Poseidon, We were soldiers & Fearless but looks like these will arrive the week after my HD player :-[
great timing....Peso is appreciating versus the dollar.... ;D ;D
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Pchin, how much were you able to get your HD-DVD Player? The price increased when I checked this morning.
??? :( 8)
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I didn't buy it from ANTOnline. My seller is Electronics Expo LLC which much cheaper. I got mine at $379.88. Total amt including shipping is $398.88. Try checking it from time to time as the price/seller in Amazon page will vary (probably due to stock level...)
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Guys read from other forums there MIGHT be an announcement on the CES of a dual player coming out by LG electronics...If this is so format war might be over..Stay tuned
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Moks007, actually it has been discussed & informed by our own member in this Forum in the "The War Begins..." thread ;)
A lot of exciting news (& surprises?) are coming our way :)
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hehehe ok thanks..
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I didn't buy it from ANTOnline. My seller is Electronics Expo LLC which much cheaper. I got mine at $379.88. Total amt including shipping is $398.88. Try checking it from time to time as the price/seller in Amazon page will vary (probably due to stock level...)
Thanks for the heads up! After reading a number of reviews, I am now considering getting an HDDVD Player instead of PS3. The choice is really risky. Fact is ... One might end having a big expensive paperweight after the war.
Will watch price drops for a better deal.
8)
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One might end having a big expensive paperweight after the war.
If and when a winner emerges, that would take a long time. By that time, the player you bought today might indeed become a paperweight because it's already long dead. ;D
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I just got the xbox360 hddvd addon last nite in data blitz megamall, tried it last night with king kong it was indeed clear, However just have a 32 inch I wish my screen is bigger. I have nothing to compare it to because I dont have an original king kong dvd..I compared it to a p....ted king kong and yes I can use the p.....ted disc as a frisbee...hehe..Its way off...Hopefully a good buy for me because of my screen size..I will be a little disappointed I guess if its almost the same pq wise to a standard dvd based on my 32 inch screen..Thanks
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Congrat Moks007 for entering into the HD world! ;)
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Moks007: pq between standard dvd and hd dvd is a very big difference. from the lighting to king kong's hair 8)
edit: I also have a 32" screen for viewing as well
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I just got the xbox360 hddvd addon last nite in data blitz megamall, tried it last night with king kong it was indeed clear, However just have a 32 inch I wish my screen is bigger. I have nothing to compare it to because I dont have an original king kong dvd..I compared it to a p....ted king kong and yes I can use the p.....ted disc as a frisbee...hehe..Its way off...Hopefully a good buy for me because of my screen size..I will be a little disappointed I guess if its almost the same pq wise to a standard dvd based on my 32 inch screen..Thanks
The limitations of my 32" lcdtv in terms of screen size won't stop me from enjoying high definition.8)
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Guys read from other forums there MIGHT be an announcement on the CES of a dual player coming out by LG electronics...If this is so format war might be over..Stay tuned
The rumours are quite plenty that LG will release a dual format player by summer to be announced next week at CES. Rumours abound it would sell around $1100. Still expensive. And there are also rumours Tosh will anounce $299 HD DVD players as well. So let's wait for the CES.
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I've been itching to get a upconverting DVD player. But with this rumours, I'll wait for it to materialize. An upconverting DVD player that can also play a HD DVD. Not bad for a $299 machine. :) With dollar a day lang, sulit na siya after 10 months. ;D
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Thanks very much guys for all your help. Yes I am putting my doubts to rest regarding seeing a big diff in a smaller screen. I was stupid to doubt in the first place.. After watching king kong again yesterday and comparing to other dvds.. Yes to me it is a big big difference. From hair, lighting, scenery sharpness and detail, face to me dont look flat , etc etc. Im so happy with my purchase. I have to save up for more titles hehe... :)
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Toshiba Announces $599 1080p HD-A20 HD DVD Player
Instead of the $299 player we have been hoping for, Toshiba announced the third new player in their 2nd Generation units. Upon introduction though, expect the recently released $499 HD-A2 player to drop within the $299-399 range. Sweet!!! ;D ;D Essentially, Toshiba will have an entry level (HD-A2), mid level (HD-A20), and hi end (HD-XA2) players to choose from.
(http://www.cepro.com/asset/6801.jpg)
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Here are the announcements we've been waiting for:
Warner Home Video 2007 High Definition Slate Best Films of 2006 and 2007 and Classic Favorites on HD DVD
2007 International CES
LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--In 2007 Warner Home Video (WHV) will offer consumers a dynamic slate of titles on HD DVD including the critically acclaimed and highly anticipated Martin Scorsese gangster drama The Departed on February 13. The Departed is the proud recipient of six Golden Globe™ nominations this year including Best Motion Picture, Best Actor (Leonardo DiCaprio), Best Supporting Actor (Jack Nicholson, Mark Wahlberg), Best Director (Martin Scorsese) and Best Screenplay (William Monahan). The Departed will be available on HD DVD Combo for $39.99 SRP.
Since the inception of the format in April 2006, WHV has released 53 titles on the HD DVD format and has six of the top 10 selling HD DVDs for 2006 including the #1 selling title, Superman Returns.
Also coming to HD DVD will be the riveting thriller The Wicker Man which will be available on January 30 and includes an alternate ending not seen in theaters. The slapstick comedy Beerfest (Unrated) from the Broken Lizard comedy group will also arrive to stores on the 30th. Both HD DVD titles will be available for $28.99 SRP. All bonus materials on the standard DVD version will be included on the high definition versions.
Warner Bros. recent theatrical hit Happy Feet and the critically acclaimed films Blood Diamond and We Are Marshall will make their HD DVD debuts in 2007. Dates and specifics for these titles will be announced soon.
WHV will be opening the vaults and bringing out fan favorites and top franchises for all genres. Planned releases for 2007 include The Matrix franchise, all of the Harry Potter films and Oceans 11 and Oceans 12. Other classic titles to be released in the first quarter of 2007 include Bullitt and The Getaway (1972) starring Steve McQueen. Also being released in 2007 is Alexander Revisited: The Unrated Final Cut.
Warner Home Video, which has the largest film library of any studio, will continue to release a wide variety of the most successful titles from its collection on HD-DVD and Blu Ray Disc to bring the high definition viewing experience home to more consumers than ever before. In 2006, Warner Home Video released The Forbidden Planet Ultimate Collector’s Edition HD DVD and will continue to release Ultimate Collector’s Edition HD DVDs and Blu-ray Discs to meet high definition and collector consumer needs.
Warner Home Video HD DVDs offer resolution six times higher than standard definition DVDs, as well as extraordinarily vibrant contrast and color and beautifully crisp sound. HD DVDs also provide a higher level of interactivity, with instant access to extra features via a seamless menu-bar where viewers can enjoy features without leaving or interrupting the film.
With operations in 90 international territories, Warner Home Video, a Warner Bros. Entertainment Company, commands the largest distribution infrastructure in the global video marketplace. Warner Home Video's film library is the largest of any studio, offering top quality new and vintage titles from the repertoires of Warner Bros. Pictures, Turner Entertainment, Castle Rock Entertainment, HBO Home Video and New Line Home Entertainment.
Article didnt mention if titles other than Beerfest and Wicker Man will be released also in Blu-ray.
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Announcements still....from CES
HD DVD Studios Project $600 Million in Revenue for 2007; Market to Grow 40
Times the Rate of 2006
LAS VEGAS, Jan. 7 /PRNewswire/ -- At a press event today at the 2007
Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, the companies of the North American
HD DVD Promotional Group recapped a strong year for the high definition
format, surpassing significant milestones for 2006, announcing more than
300 additional movie titles that will be available this year, for an
expected total of more than 600 titles worldwide. The group also revealed
compelling revenue and growth projections for HD DVD in 2007, and showcased
a live demonstration of the next level of internet connectivity to give
consumers a more personalized experience.
In just nine months time, "The Look and Sound of Perfect(TM)" has
struck a chord with consumers, showing strong movie title sales and high
attach rates. As of January 5th, there are estimated to be more than
175,000 HD DVD players sold in North America, with new models in high
demand. Using Nielsen data and retailer reports for title sales to date,
the HD DVD studios projected an annualized attach rate of 28 movies per
player. Based on an expected install base of more than 2.5 million players
by the end of 2007, the HD DVD Promotional Group estimates HD DVD movie
title sales to exceed $600 million in North America for 2007. This is more
than 40 times the revenue accrued in 2006 by the format.
"HD DVD is a well recognized brand name, and it's the best way for
consumers to make the transition from DVD into the high definition world,"
said Craig Kornblau, president of Universal Studios Home Entertainment and
chairman of the North American HD DVD Promotional Group. "Look at the
facts: HD DVD has the most reasonably priced players and drives on the
market, the highest quality picture and sound possible, and our hardware
sales and attach rates are high. By the holidays, we'll have more than 600
movies available globally, and offer an advanced level of internet
connectivity to drive HD DVD sales."
Attendees of the press event saw a live demo of HD DVD's new advanced
interactive features, working on both multiple PC platforms and consumer
electronics based players -- effectively showing the wide breadth of
support for these features. HD DVD titles with advanced interactivity will
take advantage of HD DVD's mandatory specifications for network
connectivity, secondary video decoders and persistent storage. Titles using
player memory as well as the secondary video encoder for picture-in-picture
were shipping throughout 2006, and titles using network connectivity are
expected to be available in 2007. Using Microsoft's HDi(TM) interactive
technology, the live demo showed how to save and share favorite scenes from
a movie with other HD DVD owners, and how to download HD trailers and other
content from the Internet. To date, HD DVD is the only format delivering
titles using true picture-in-picture.
Fueled by brisk sales of second-generation Toshiba HD DVD players, the
HD DVD drive for Xbox 360, and HD DVD-enabled Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo
laptops and desktop PCs from companies like Acer, HP, Niveus and Toshiba,
HD DVD's installed base is estimated to have exceeded 175,000 in North
America.
Several of the more innovative of the Asian manufacturers such as Alco,
Jiangkui/ED Digital, Lite-On, and Shinco will add competitively priced HD
DVD products to the market, and well-known brands such as Meridian and
Onkyo will create HD DVD players as well.
"With the addition of new consumer electronics companies to HD DVD,
we're predicting more than 2.5 million units in the market by the end of
2007," stated Yoshihide Fujii, president and CEO of Toshiba's Digital Media
Network Company. "This growing level of manufacturer support is a clear
result of HD DVD winning over enthusiasts and movie lovers alike."
Earlier today, Toshiba released news of the HD-A20, a 1080p HD DVD
player priced competitively at $599, offering a more affordable path to get
the highest resolution output. The players will be available in the U.S. by
Spring 2007.
Microsoft announced that the HD DVD player for the Xbox 360 video game
console continues to sell rapidly at $199, bundled with the Universal
Studios title "King Kong." Microsoft executives stated that the company
will continue to manufacture players for the Xbox 360 to keep up with
expected demand from gamers in 2007. With the knowledge that every Xbox 360
HD DVD player sold is purchased by someone who wants to watch high
definition movies, studios supporting HD DVD see significant value in the
player, as a great way to bring "The Look and Sound of Perfect" to gamers
while helping ensure strong movie attach rates for each and every player
sold.
Of the more than 41 studios and distributors supporting HD DVD
worldwide, Warner Home Video, Paramount Home Entertainment, Universal
Studios Home Entertainment, HBO Home Video, New Line Home Entertainment,
Genius Product, Inc., The Weinstein Company, Studio Canal, and Bandai
Visual, one of the largest animation companies in the world, collectively
announced more than 300 additional HD DVD titles will be released this
year. The list included acclaimed hits such as: "The Departed," "The Good
Shepherd," "Flags of Our Fathers," "Babel," the entire "Harry Potter"
series, "The Matrix" trilogy and "Blade Runner". Hit TV series will also
appear on HD DVD, including "Battlestar Galactica," "The Sopranos", and the
original episodes of "Star Trek," which have been digitally remastered.
Another reason consumers are finding the transition from DVD to HD DVD
easy and compelling is the release of many of the most anticipated day-and-
date releases on "combo discs" -- with an HD DVD version on one side, and a
standard DVD version on the other. This combo feature, unique to HD DVD,
gives consumers the option of building their library of HD DVDs before they
purchase an HD DVD player, and lets consumers buy one movie that will play
on HD DVD players as well as in standard DVD players elsewhere in the home
or in the car. The release of combo discs was another milestone the HD DVD
camp promised from CES 2006.
As the official successor to DVD, HD DVD is successfully building on
the heritage of the most successful consumer electronics format ever. An
important element of the group's strategy was a nationwide, 18-wheeler tour
known as the HD DVD Mobile Experience. Over five months, the Mobile
Experience helped educate more than 25,000 consumers on the benefits of HD
DVD, showcasing stunning 1080p movie experiences in a home theater, with
PCs and laptops, and through the Xbox 360. New scenarios continue to be
added, including a concept demonstration by Alpine of an HD DVD player
system for use in vehicles. The Mobile Experience will be featured inside
the Main Hall at CES (booth #7914).
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That's great.... more good news awaiting HD-DVD owners! :)
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Article didnt mention if titles other than Beerfest and Wicker Man will be released also in Blu-ray.
Isn't that a given? Warner is committed to releasing titles in both formats.
Toshiba's licensing the HD DVD technology to the Chinese is starting to bear fruit. From CES, Microsoft and Broadcom have collaborated to arrive at cheaper HD DVD playback solutions that will appear in future HD DVD gears starting with Lite-On, Jiankui, Alco, and Shinco.
http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=454373
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Toshiba's clever marketing strategy will certainly take the lead & give a great positive impact to their market share in the great format war. By licensing the HD DVD technology to the Chinese, it's a clever decision & will indeed kill its competitor easilly. :)
Looks like the format war could end sooner than we thought. ;D
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Licencing the format to Chinese is indeed a wonderful news for people like me who are looking for cheap player. But I would question their durability. Especially me, an abusive user. ;D
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To me excellent strategy to go with the CHinese. I have been waiting for this, but already bought the addon for xbox 360. I dont think we have anything to worry about in terms of quality from the chinese, If you look at it its all circuit boards (I think) inside these players, I have an orange dvd and its made in china I think and I abuse it left and right using it for Pir...d dvds and until now its standing. I read on another forum (not this forum) stating WTF? HDDVD have to go with the chinese etc. etc., if you guys look at it most of the things now in america is made in China, not only in america can you find things made in China. Even the addon on my xbox 360 is made in china, parts of course I think from america. Whether its chipset, board or whatever that is inside these dvd players I think they are all the same, they are just like computers. I may be wrong but thats what I think. The only thing I wont buy made in china or taiwan at the moment is maybe lcd or plasma, I dont want to put anybody down or any country down purchasing these, but of course I would like to give the chinese more time to build an established brand on these lcd or plasma. This is just my opinion.
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Toshiba Announces $599 1080p HD-A20 HD DVD Player
Instead of the $299 player we have been hoping for, Toshiba announced the third new player in their 2nd Generation units. Upon introduction though, expect the recently released $499 HD-A2 player to drop within the $299-399 range. Sweet!!! ;D ;D Essentially, Toshiba will have an entry level (HD-A2), mid level (HD-A20), and hi end (HD-XA2) players to choose from.
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available na po ba ito sa philippine?
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available na po ba ito sa philippine?
AFAIK, only gen 1 players are available locally.....and thats HD-XA1 and HD-A1. :)
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Isn't that a given? Warner is committed to releasing titles in both formats.
yes, just announced, Warner's Blu-Ray release mirror that of HD DVD..... :)
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A typical electronic savvy consumer steps in the store, ask the store clerk what any new product item do they have would go with his top of the line set up. "Oh we have this new items from some Chinese companies I can't pronounce (no pun intended)."
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Tell that to the masses who have long patronized cheap china made DVD players and who will determine the outcome of this war if and when high def reaches the masses. Not the few rich people who are just now starting with high def players. IF it were not for these china made unpronouceables, there'd be no $60 DVD players. ;D
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Soooo many of my friends bought Shico, Next Base, etc...the list go on..
Yeah, I guess in a way the masses still go for cheapo regardless if it's from China..many of the players are stiall reliable after years of playing (and abuse?) ;D
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Tell that to the masses who have long patronized cheap china made DVD players and who will determine the outcome of this war if and when high def reaches the masses. Not the few rich people who are just now starting with high def players.
Which "masses" are you refering too? Sorry if that offended anyone :( :( If you are pointing to those in the US, content again, which is a "non-issue" for some, will be a determining factor.
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Since you obviously are also following the titles being announced at CES, the Warner titles to be released for both suggests that content is less an issue today as it seemed when this war started. Then there's Paramount releasng also in both formats, then there's Universal, New Line Cinema, Studio Canal, Pathe, Image Entertainement, HBO, all exclusive to HD DVD. With Studio Canal and Pathe releasing HD DVD in Europe for some Disney, Buena Vista and Sony BD exclusives in the states. The number of films available to both are pretty much about even, slightly favouring BD with a 55/45 or 60/40 ratio. Not bad. Real wars have been fought with more lopsided ratios with the underdog sometimes winning. I'd be alarmed and would agree with you if the ratio between titles is 90/10.
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Since you obviously are also following the titles being announced at CES, the Warner titles to be released for both suggests that content is less an issue today as it seemed when this war started. Then there's Paramount releasng also in both formats, then there's Universal, New Line Cinema, Studio Canal, Pathe, Image Entertainement, HBO, all exclusive to HD DVD. With Studio Canal and Pathe releasing HD DVD in Europe for some Disney, Buena Vista and Sony BD exclusives in the states. The number of films available to both are pretty much about even, slightly favouring BD with a 55/45 or 60/40 ratio. Not bad. Real wars have been fought with more lopsided ratios with the underdog sometimes winning. I'd be alarmed and would agree with you if the ratio between titles is 90/10.
Release Dates Pending
The following titles are planned for release in the Blu-ray format (as indicated by press release or previous public statements made by the distributor), but release dates have not been announced:
Angels in America (HBO)
Deadwood: Season One (HBO)
From the Earth to the Moon (HBO)
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http://shopping.discovery.com/product-63528.html?jzid=40587881-9-0
http://www.amazon.com/Discovery-Atlas-Brazil-Revealed/dp/B000JRYP0U/ref=pd_sim_d_3/002-3652784-5575245
Also you mentioned New Line Cinema not 100% sure exclusivity on HD DVD due to AOL Time Warner Parent company.
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Which "masses" are you refering too? Sorry if that offended anyone :( :( If you are pointing to those in the US, content again, which is a "non-issue" for some, will be a determining factor.
Who these "masses" are? These are the people who are going to adopt the new formats if they see them near the $50 DVD players they find in their favourte supermarkets like in K-mart or Wal-mart in the US or Tesco in Britain and Uniwide locally. Content to a large extent won't matter if the prices of these toys are beyond the reach of the masses. Penetrating the price-sensitive mass markets is what will determine the new video format winner. And it's basically a given as I posted above that content is about the same for both. So if at all content is an issue, it's no longer the number of studios or even films available to either, but how fast the studios can release them to market. And rght now, neither camps are releasing fast enough for either to gain momentun fast enough. The 350 or so announced titles for 2007 from HD DVD are really nothing when you consider a catalogue of 40,000 titles.
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Release Dates Pending
The following titles are planned for release in the Blu-ray format (as indicated by press release or previous public statements made by the distributor), but release dates have not been announced:
Angels in America (HBO)
Deadwood: Season One (HBO)
From the Earth to the Moon (HBO)
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http://shopping.discovery.com/product-63528.html?jzid=40587881-9-0
http://www.amazon.com/Discovery-Atlas-Brazil-Revealed/dp/B000JRYP0U/ref=pd_sim_d_3/002-3652784-5575245
Also you mentioned New Line Cinema not 100% sure exclusivity on HD DVD due to AOL Time Warner Parent company.
So far that's the information I have. New Line is with HD DVD, though I did say there's a good chance they'd be on BD eventually because of sister Warner. Same with HBO( which is also in AOL time warner group) though I could have sworn they're exclusive to HD DVD.
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http://www.highdefdigest.com/tags/show/HBO
But if you have better information on the contrary, I have no problem being corrected. But even so, since they support both, then it won't change the color of my argument that content would not be an issue. The more studios support both, the more content becomes irrelevant.
Oh, I forgot the Weinstein group as exclusive to HD DVD and Dreamworks via Paramount supporting both.
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If you were a lawyer with the case of the century...I wonder what would the judge say. If this was AVS forum you'd probably skinned alive.
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I don't think so, AVS forum is too pro-HD DVD to do that. ;D And good I'm not in the trial of the century. High Def video formats are really NOTHING in the overall scheme of things on this planet and on world affairs. We're really argung and debating over nothing. I doubt if the common person has even heard of Blu ray or HD DVD. And to think majority of local HT afficionados are still using VCD. ;D
So yes, I don't mind rumbling away my thoughts based on the information I have at the moment. I did say I have no problem being corrected if the error is clear. But still, it didn't change the color of my argument. And for something as trivial as high def formats, I really have no strong convictions one way or the other. I just happen to side with one camp for reasons of my own that has yet to be disproved. And anyone is welcome to do that. So far none has succeeded. ;D
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Top Porn Publisher Changes Mind on Blu-ray, Ships 4 HD DVD Titles :o :o :o
Posted by Julie Jacobson on Jan 9 2007
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HD DVD will be getting the 2nd best thing to Pirates of the Carribean ;D ;D
In some circles, they say Betamax lost to VHS because VHS had more porn titles. Will the adult video industry hold similar sway in the high-def DVD battle?
If so, look no further than Digital Playground, which may not be the most prolific publisher of adult videos, but is probably the most highly regarded, with scores of key awards under its belt--so to speak.
Last year, I spoke with Digital Playground founder Joone--that's the whole name, just like Cher--after reading that his company would support Blu-ray.
"First and foremost," he said during the interview, "you get more space with Blu-ray. You usually run out. A person could buy a DVD, and there might be four movies on it. They could just pay to unlock them."
At the time, he also cited the security of Blu-ray, supposedly superior to HD DVD.
Finally, he said that the Sony Playstation would provide a huge boost to the Blu-ray format, and that "gamers usually buy our stuff a lot."
Yet, Digital Playground just announced its first four HD titles, and they're all in HD DVD.
Who cares? Well, a lot of technology developers should. Some $4.28 billion worth of adult videos were sold or rented in 2005, according to Adult Video News. About 1 billion adult videos were rented in 2005. And statistics show that there is affluence among porn aficionados. Some 35% of them have incomes over $75,000. That's enough to buy a high-def DVD player or two.
Digital Playground on Tech Forefront
Digital Playground is no low-brow porn producer. Joone takes great pride in his cinematography, and in some of the key technologies that emanated from his company.
"It's so much fun to play with technology," Joone says. "It's almost like an R&D place, where you can try new things and not really be worried."
One of those new things was "interactive sex," which Joone pioneered in the early 1990s with CD ROM-based videos that put you in the middle of the action.
"You have this girl, and you can put her in any position, change camera angles, change demeanor," he says. "She can be innocent or nasty. You can record what you're doing and play it back."
The folks at Digital Playground were kind enough to send me a care package last year, and the CD ROM isn't quite as interactive as Joone makes it sound, but still it was pretty darn innovative in its day.
"We pretty much stayed on the forefront of CD ROM, as other companies would basically take their [VHS] titles and put them on a CD ROM. They weren't creating titles specifically for the format."
The same would hold true with DVD, as that technology emerged. In 1997, Joone "bet the whole company on DVD. We felt that would be the way. We did not do anything on VHS."
In fact, the company has been shooting, editing and mastering in HD for more than 3 years. Last year, Joone said, "We have a good library all ready to go." At the time, Digital Playground had two titles that could be watched in HD via PC: Island Fever 3 and Pirates. Again, Digital Playground was kind enough to send samples, although I didn't have the gear to watch in HD.
Would I really want to? According to Joone, most definitely.
"People, especially who have never seen high definition, are blown away by it," he says. "With adult material, when people are having sex in high definition, it feels like they're in your living room, close to the action."
That's a good thing, I guess.
Just don't let your kumander know about this...
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Yeah. This is also the subject in many AV forums that say the Porn industry initially in favour of BD has swung to the HD DVD side. It may be good for the format. But personally, Porn is really one aspect of the high def war I am not convinced would swing the tide one way or the other. It may have contributed to VHS winning the first format war, but things have changed since. One very telling change is the distribution of porn. There were no internet then. Now porn downloads is a big business.
Firstly, I am curous, how many DVD porn do you have in relation to your total DVD collection? I would say even with DVD, the percentage of people going DVD for porn is small. Afterall, I am not sure if the OOHs and AAAHs and the squishing and squashing would matter in 5.1 surround. Or what beneft a subwoofer has on porn. If not for those pirated porn DVDs, I don't have a single genuine porn DVD.
Second, I am not sure mainstream DVD collectors would like to flaunt their DVD porn collection. Most porn materials at home are kept in the closet or under the bed. Unless ofcource you're a porn business executive. You must really be a porn additct to a have any serious porn DVD collection on your shelves. (Maintream xxx movies OTH are another matter, like 9 songs or Baise Moir)
Now I must wonder whether all the high def resolution will make watching porn more enjoyable. I am sure the freckles would be more visible. Observes say that many Hollywood actors and actresses don't look very flatterrng on high def. With perhaps the exception of Catherine Zeta Jones who reveals flawless skin on HD. With regard porn actors and actress, I would think many would look horrible on high def. You'd see all the warts and moles and freckles and lines and creases in all their glory on close-ups. ;D
I won't discount that maybe Porn can lend weight to HD DVD winning. Porn video is said to be a $5B market worldwide. That's still a lot. Even bigger than some of the mainstream video market from hollywood studios. And while I am rooting for HD DVD to win, I am just not comfortable with the thought that HD DVD wins because of the support from Porn. ;D
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I am sure the freckles would be more visible. Observes say that many Hollywood actors and actresses don't look very flatterrng on high def. With regard porn actors and actress, I would think many would look horrible on high def. You'd see all the warts and moles and freckles and lines and creases in all their glory on close-ups. ;D
Whoa...now I'm curious to get a porn HD-DVD just to check those up-close freckles, warts and moles LOL ;D
By the way, JAC called up that my Tosh HD-A2 is ready for pick up....ooh yeah!! :D
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Cool... Congrats Pchin. I hope it arrives without a scratch. You'd have a busy weekned then. ;D
What titles did you order?
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Toshiba's clever marketing strategy will certainly take the lead & give a great positive impact to their market share in the great format war. By licensing the HD DVD technology to the Chinese, it's a clever decision & will indeed kill its competitor easilly. :)
Looks like the format war could end sooner than we thought. ;D
Yes indeed, its something Sony would NEVER do.
Who these "masses" are? These are the people who are going to adopt the new formats if they see them near the $50 DVD players they find in their favourte supermarkets like in K-mart or Wal-mart in the US or Tesco in Britain and Uniwide locally. Content to a large extent won't matter if the prices of these toys are beyond the reach of the masses. Penetrating the price-sensitive mass markets is what will determine the new video format winner.
I think the problem with this is it can only be possible w/ the "masses" as long as HDTV's reach rock bottom prices. Even if HD DVD players breach the $100 barrier, if HDTV's are still not affordable to the masses, I dont see this reaching the "masa" level, specially locally w/ our economy :(. VCD's are still strong sellers in this country w/c is enough for a non HT enthusiast "masa" watching on a 20 in TV.
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what shop in our country sells the HD-A1 cheapes and how much?
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sonny tuason of the home theater sells it for 33k
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what shop in our country sells the HD-A1 cheapes and how much?
If u can import it directly thru Johnny Air Cargo, you can save a lot. Probably it will cost a total of around 26k only in view of the peso appreciation :)
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I think the problem with this is it can only be possible w/ the "masses" as long as HDTV's reach rock bottom prices. Even if HD DVD players breach the $100 barrier, if HDTV's are still not affordable to the masses, I dont see this reaching the "masa" level, specially locally w/ our economy :(. VCD's are still strong sellers in this country w/c is enough for a non HT enthusiast "masa" watching on a 20 in TV.
You're absolutely correct. I was opining purely on the subject of players without regard to the fact that HD players and sources would be utterly unappreciated without the right HDTVs to display the advantage of high def. HD players must go hand in hand with HDTVs. And ofcourse HD materials.
In the US I read that HDTVs are now mostly in the sub-$1000 region which is already an improvment when I recall they started out costing thrice that. Observers are saying that with the digital TV broadcast mandate this coming February, the downward fall in prices can see some acceleration. (Though I am sure many CEs will dump their CRT TVs to thrid world countries because of that, thereby further delaying our adoption of digital TV. ;D) Already now, 720p DVI-equipped AOL 19" LCD can be had for 10T. I am hoping that byChirstmas 2007, I can see Korean or China made 720p 36" HDMI-equiped HDTVs in the 20T range. (I think there's already a 32" LCD HDTV retailing for 40T in one thread at the Display section a few months back.) And if our peso exchange rate further improves, I would not be surprised if 1080p 42" HDTVs would be less than 70T by Christmas 2008. Still pricery for the Pinoy masa, but not to the midde class who I imgine can more easily charge that amount to their card on deferred payment. By that time, a good 2 years from now, I am sure we'd have cheap china made dual format players in the price range of Oppo. So the two should meet up on the same affordability range by then. I hope. ;D
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sonny tuason of the home theater sells it for 33k
whats his location and contact number?
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If u can import it directly thru Johnny Air Cargo, you can save a lot. Probably it will cost a total of around 26k only in view of the peso appreciation :)
true but i prefer to get it here :)
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true but i prefer to get it here :)
Yes that's true esp if $ has no objection & hassle free ;)
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hirap na pag dating dito mag charge ang customs tapos player is defective :) at least ma test ko muna bago bili :)
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You're absolutely correct. I was opining purely on the subject of players without regard to the fact that HD players and sources would be utterly unappreciated without the right HDTVs to display the advantage of high def. HD players must go hand in hand with HDTVs. And ofcourse HD materials.
In the US I read that HDTVs are now mostly in the sub-$1000 region which is already an improvment when I recall they started out costing thrice that. Observers are saying that with the digital TV broadcast mandate this coming February, the downward fall in prices can see some acceleration. (Though I am sure many CEs will dump their CRT TVs to thrid world countries because of that, thereby further delaying our adoption of digital TV. ;D) Already now, 720p DVI-equipped AOL 19" LCD can be had for 10T. I am hoping that byChirstmas 2007, I can see Korean or China made 720p 36" HDMI-equiped HDTVs in the 20T range. (I think there's already a 32" LCD HDTV retailing for 40T in one thread at the Display section a few months back.) And if our peso exchange rate further improves, I would not be surprised if 1080p 42" HDTVs would be less than 70T by Christmas 2008. Still pricery for the Pinoy masa, but not to the midde class who I imgine can more easily charge that amount to their card on deferred payment. By that time, a good 2 years from now, I am sure we'd have cheap china made dual format players in the price range of Oppo. So the two should meet up on the same affordability range by then. I hope. ;D
Sir, AOC, not AOL. hehe :D
Hopefully the price drop of HDTV's happens, when HDDVD's & Blurays reach the masses, prices will drop because of volume.
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Toink: call sonny tuason at 813-8443 thanks
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Sir, AOC, not AOL. hehe :D
He he, mas malakas kasi brand recall for AOL. ;D
Hopefully the price drop of HDTV's happens, when HDDVD's & Blurays reach the masses, prices will drop because of volume.
It should over time. But those players must first come down in prices before the masses can afford them. But once they have a foot into the masses, then their prices wll further go down due to volume.
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gusto ko sana bumili ng Tosh HD E2 dito sa Germany para iuuwi ko dyan sa March pero mas mahaaal compared sa US... haaaay... :'( Magaganda rin sana yung mga Limited Edition nila na DVDs kaso in German... hehehe ;D
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the toshiba hda1 can be bought for below 30k in infomaxx and SGHT. just bought one.
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the toshiba hda1 can be bought for below 30k in infomaxx and SGHT. just bought one.
Whoao! Review naman dyan sir. ;)
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the toshiba hda1 can be bought for below 30k in infomaxx and SGHT. just bought one.
wow...ok na ok to. no more hassle and fear kung mag import. :)
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Congrat john5479 & welcome to the HD bandwagon! You'll have great enjoyment with your new acquisition! ;)
HD-A1 received the Editor's Choice Award 2006 in Sound & Vision. :D
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I paid in cash thats why i got it below 30k, they initially offered it for 30k but i did some haggling. Its firmware was already updated to 2.0 when i bought it.
Initial impressions:
My Caveats:
HD DVD loading time is 45 seconds
DVD loading time 30 seconds
CD loading time 15 seconds
Picture Quality:
I have this unit connected to a samsung 32" TV through HDMI, picture quality is better than the hd dvd add on i had for the xbox360. It was better but not that much,i guess i need a bigger screen ;)
As a DVD player it does its job very well, the picture is much sharper, colors are richer,in comparison with the video output from a ps3 (which does not upscale) through HDMI.Please note though that i only tried animation titles (cars and over the hedge) so this impression will change.
Build Quality:
This thing is heavy, built like a tank. The remote is covered in brushed aluminum but no backlight :-[
Sound Quality:
This unit does it job in movies very well as expected, what surprised me was how well it played in two channel, I lugged the unit and connected it to my two channel system, using the analog out i played some vocals and percussion tracks. There was very good separation and bass weight.
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If you haven't got a HDMI equiped receiver, take advantage of the analog connections of yor player for Dolby TrueHD playback! :D
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the toshiba hda1 can be bought for below 30k in infomaxx and SGHT. just bought one.
Wow! Quite a price drop from the original price of P40k infomaxx was selling hda1 last december & by order basis pa. Did you get a new sealed unit?
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aeris30: it was initially sealed but i requested that they update the firmware :)
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Wow! Quite a price drop from the original price of P40k infomaxx was selling hda1 last december & by order basis pa. Did you get a new sealed unit?
True! :) Esp after the release of the second gen player HD-A2, guess they have to lower it to attract customers. Good timing for John & it's a good buy! ;)
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Who owns the Toshiba HD-A2? Have you tried the firmware upgrade thru the internet connection? :-\
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Who owns the Toshiba HD-A2? Have you tried the firmware upgrade thru the internet connection? :-\
Hi Paul,
Try infomaxx, they might have the firmware upgrade on cd...they're already selling the HD-A2 for P35,000. No more stocks of the HD-A1.
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Tnx aeris, I hope infomaxx has the CD firware & willing to sell it to buyers that didn't get from them ::)
Many HD-A2 owners tried to upgrade tru internet but failed :-[ Guess using the CD is my only option now
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If you haven't got a HDMI equiped receiver, take advantage of the analog connections of yor player for Dolby TrueHD & DTS HD playback! :D
hi pchin. i have a question that you might help me with. to the others who might know the answer on my inquiry, please feel free to answer.
since you've raised the topic of Dolby True HD and DTS HD, i was wondering how this two new playbacks common in HD DVD softwares differ from the ordinary Dolby Digital and DTS playback seen in Standard DVD in terms of audio quality?
i'm currently using a toshiba HDA1 upgraded to the latest firmware 2.0(thanks to munskie and rmpmla :)) and connected via HDMI cable to an HDMI equiped AVR but somehow could hardly detect the difference in terms of audio quality if i am to compare it with a standard DVD DD and DTS playback. most of my HD DVD softwares are Dolby True HD encoded and most likely the only thing that probably changed is, the volume of the sound just got a bit louder or powerful than the standard DVD playback.
i dunno if it's my ears or am i just missing out on something in my connections.
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i'm currently using a toshiba HDA1 upgraded to the latest firmware 2.0(thanks to munskie and rmpmla :)) and connected via HDMI cable to an HDMI equiped AVR but somehow could hardly detect the difference in terms of audio quality if i am to compare it with a standard DVD DD and DTS playback. most of my HD DVD softwares are Dolby True HD encoded and most likely the only thing that probably changed is, the volume of the sound just got a bit louder or powerful than the standard DVD playback.
Is your HDMI equipped AVR capable of decoding dolby truehd & dts hd? And have you tried using the analog pre-outs of the HDA1?
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i doubt if ninja's avr already have the decoders for the new surround formats. Decoding is done on the player, in this case the hd-a1. I can relate to ninja's predicament. There are times you got to have the ears to notice the improvement. sometimes its in the subtle details. Based on the statements of the sites of DTS and Dolby..ive made a chart
Dolby Digital DTS Good (core soundtrack)
Dolby Digital Plus DTS-HD High Resolution Better (higher bitrates than the core)
Dolby TrueHD DTS-HD Master Audio Best (lossless)
base on this, with proper equipment and connections, we should hear an improvement.
the hd-a1 can decode dolby digital plus, dolby trueHD, and only the core of any any DTS-HD title we might encounter (meron pala, sa mga european releases). One caveat though with some hd dvd titles, as noticed by highdef's peter bracke. There are HD DVD titles designated with dolby digital plus but with bitrate of just 640kbps. their counterpart at blu-ray (same title) designates it only as dolby digital, also at the same bitrate. Maybe just a marketing ploy? the Plus designation should at least have a healthy 1.5mbps IMO... ;)
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Great explanation on the various audio formats Munskie ;) Perhaps you can refer to this thread started by Munskie to gather more info:
Receivers/Pre-Pro with HDMI 1.3 (and with Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD)..
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=61906.0
Source from DTS online
High Definition Player with DTS-HD Decoder to Current AV Receiver
You can enjoy DTS-HD Master Audio and DTS-HD High Resolution Audio if you have a new Blu-ray Disc or HD-DVD player with a DTS-HD Audio decoder built into the player. The audio will be decoded inside the player and passed to the receiver in two different ways.
HDMI 1.1 or 1.2 Connection:
In this scenario, the high definition player would output the audio as an uncompressed 6 to 8 channel linear PCM digital audio stream. You will need a player with a built-in DTS-HD Decoder, and both player and AV Receiver need to include HDMI version 1.1 or 1.2* outputs/inputs. HDMI stands for High Definition Multimedia Interface, and is a single-cable connection designed to accommodate digital multi channel audio and video. Simply connect the HDMI cable from the output of the player to the HDMI input of the AV Receiver. The DTS decoder inside the AV Receiver will "ignore" the Linear PCM stream and pass the audio stream on to your receiver's digital-to-analog converters and then on to the 5.1 or 7.1 amplifier. This way you can enjoy DTS-HD Master Audio that is a bit-for-bit identical to the studio master.
6 to 8 Channel Analog Connection:
In this scenario, the high definition player will output DTS-HD Audio through the analog outputs of the player to your AV Receiver. The DTS-HD Master Audio or DTS-HD High Resolution will be decoded by the player and sent out as analog audio signals to the AV Receiver. You would Simply connect 6, 7, or 8 RCA cables from the analog outputs of the player to the analog inputs on your AV Receiver. The number of analog cables will be determined by the number of analog output/inputs on the player and receiver. The analog signals will go directly to the receiver's amplifier section. In this way you can enjoy DTS-HD Master Audio that is bit-for-bit identical to the studio master.
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hi pchin. i have a question that you might help me with. to the others who might know the answer on my inquiry, please feel free to answer.
since you've raised the topic of Dolby True HD and DTS HD, i was wondering how this two new playbacks common in HD DVD softwares differ from the ordinary Dolby Digital and DTS playback seen in Standard DVD in terms of audio quality?
i'm currently using a toshiba HDA1 upgraded to the latest firmware 2.0(thanks to munskie and rmpmla :)) and connected via HDMI cable to an HDMI equiped AVR but somehow could hardly detect the difference in terms of audio quality if i am to compare it with a standard DVD DD and DTS playback. most of my HD DVD softwares are Dolby True HD encoded and most likely the only thing that probably changed is, the volume of the sound just got a bit louder or powerful than the standard DVD playback.
i dunno if it's my ears or am i just missing out on something in my connections.
try setting your hdmi audio output to pcm
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thanks everyone for the overwhelming response to my inquiry.
Is your HDMI equipped AVR capable of decoding dolby truehd & dts hd? And have you tried using the analog pre-outs of the HDA1?
munskie is correct. my avr cannot decode dolby trueHD nor DTS HD. all my HD DVD softwares are only read as DTS Surround playback by my avr.
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i doubt if ninja's avr already have the decoders for the new surround formats. Decoding is done on the player, in this case the hd-a1. I can relate to ninja's predicament. There are times you got to have the ears to notice the improvement. sometimes its in the subtle details. Based on the statements of the sites of DTS and Dolby..ive made a chart
Dolby Digital DTS Good (core soundtrack)
Dolby Digital Plus DTS-HD High Resolution Better (higher bitrates than the core)
Dolby TrueHD DTS-HD Master Audio Best (lossless)
base on this, with proper equipment and connections, we should hear an improvement.
the hd-a1 can decode dolby digital plus, dolby trueHD, and only the core of any any DTS-HD title we might encounter (meron pala, sa mga european releases). One caveat though with some hd dvd titles, as noticed by highdef's peter bracke. There are HD DVD titles designated with dolby digital plus but with bitrate of just 640kbps. their counterpart at blu-ray (same title) designates it only as dolby digital, also at the same bitrate. Maybe just a marketing ploy? the Plus designation should at least have a healthy 1.5mbps IMO... ;)
hi munskie. as always, you've been very precise and accurate in all the information that you share! thanks a lot!
by the way OT lang. your firmware 2.0 is still with me. ernie is still a bit busy and couldn't drop by for it yet.
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try setting your hdmi audio output to pcm
actually did that yesterday, the avr defaulted and read the HD DVD dolby true HD playback as dolby pro logic II. thanks for the advice :)
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Ninja, how about using your analog connection? :)
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Ninja, how about using your analog connection? :)
i can try that. but, how do i go about that? can you describe or illustrate how i go about it? thanks!
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ninja what brand and model is your AVR?
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hi munskie. i'm using a denon 3806.
PMed you by the way. thanks
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i can try that. but, how do i go about that? can you describe or illustrate how i go about it? thanks!
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Simply put, just connect each analog input for each respective channel at the back of your AVR (assuming your AVR has those inputs) to the corresponding analog output at the back of the player.
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Simply put, just connect each analog input for each respective channel at the back of your AVR (assuming your AVR has those inputs) to the corresponding analog output at the back of the player.
thanks a lot. will try that out over the weekend.
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then toggle your avr to EXT IN. :)
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once i've connected the analogue cables, do i detach the hdmi cable? the optical digital cable? the left and right audio analogue cables?
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(http://usa.denon.com/avr3806_back_rdax_1200x464.jpg)
Denon avr3806 (http://usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/623.asp#)
This is the back of the denon avr3806...it has 8 channel external analog input...
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thanks for providing me the link and illustrated backpanel aeris30.
just found out that it has 8 channel external input. don't have to worry about loosing the back surrounds in a 6.1 format anymore. initially thought i might not be able to playback DD-ex and DTS-es playbacks in SD .
truely appreciate it :)
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actually did that yesterday, the avr defaulted and read the HD DVD dolby true HD playback as dolby pro logic II. thanks for the advice :)
i think thats the way it's suppose to work
thanks for providing me the link and illustrated backpanel aeris30.
just found out that it has 8 channel external input. don't have to worry about loosing the back surrounds in a 6.1 format anymore. initially thought i might not be able to playback DD-ex and DTS-es playbacks in SD .
truely appreciate it :)
correct me if i'm wrong but does'nt the hd-a1 only have 5.1 outputs? i think you would be better off using hdmi. one cable to rule them all ;) here is a hd-a1 faq thread. hope this helps http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=667756&page=1 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=667756&page=1)
besides i read somewhere that some people find little to no improvement w/ a well mastered dd/dts track over ddplus/true-hd so it may not have to do anything w/ your connections
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i think thats the way it's suppose to work
correct me if i'm wrong but does'nt the hd-a1 only have 5.1 outputs? i think you would be better off using hdmi. one cable to rule them all ;) here is a hd-a1 faq thread. hope this helps http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=667756&page=1 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=667756&page=1)
besides i read somewhere that some people find little to no improvement w/ a well mastered dd/dts track over ddplus/true-hd so it may not have to do anything w/ your connections
i'm afraid you're correct ET414. tried fiddling today with the connections using the analogue outputs and there was minor improvement in sound quality. so i just decided to put it all back to its previous connections.
thanks a lot for the link. learned a lot of stuff about my player :)
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Tnx aeris, I hope infomaxx has the CD firware & willing to sell it to buyers that didn't get from them ::)
Many HD-A2 owners tried to upgrade tru internet but failed :-[ Guess using the CD is my only option now
Luckily I managed to upgrade my player's firmware tru CD :D
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Who owns the Toshiba HD-A2? Have you tried the firmware upgrade thru the internet connection? :-\
Is the HD-A2 already available locally? How about the HD-XA2? Are these players multi-region? Planning to upgrade..
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Yep Jun, the 2nd gen HD player is available na at Infomax in Park Square selling at 36k :) Only the HD-A2 but you may ask them about the HD-XA2 in case they will take special order. :)
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i have a hd-a1 for sale, just check out the buy and sell section ::)
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bro's
since the toshiba hd-a1 is better in dolby digital plus soundtrack (multichannel 5.1 analog) ,w/c supports a max bitrate than sddvd,
is it also better soundtrack in sddvs if it sets to multchannel setting in avr? or much better pa ang optical sa sddvd?
thanks
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the DTS identification on avr when set to multichannel at dolby digital plus,is it normal?
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if your using coaxial or optical out, the hd-a1 converts dd plus to DTS
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if your using coaxial or optical out, the hd-a1 converts dd plus to DTS
when using multichannel in receiver 5.1 analog in hd toshiba. the receiver defaults to dts when audio settings is dolby digital plus.
but when playing sddvd the receiver is set to proper audio w/ regards to dts or dolby.
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toshiba x1 plays r3 dvd but superbit only.
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toshiba x1 plays r3 dvd but superbit only.
That's because most if not all R3 superbit titles are region free. I have an R3 Spiderman Superbit 2 discs korean release & the disc that contains the movie is region free & plays in my region 1 dvd player while disc 2 which contains the special features is locked to region 3. There was a thread before which discusses & list all "supposed to be R3" dvds which are actually region free.
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FW 2.1 for Japanese Toshiba XA-1 HD-DVD is now available. Tried upgrading my HD-A1 but no go.
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The Toshiba HD DVD players in the US are reducing their prices once again...at the tune of $100 off.....for the HD-A2, HD-A20, and HD-XA2..me libre 5 titles pa....
Act of desperation or a good marketing strategy???? Your call folks.....
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The Toshiba HD DVD players in the US are reducing their prices once again...at the tune of $100 off.....for the HD-A2, HD-A20, and HD-XA2..me libre 5 titles pa....
Act of desperation or a good marketing strategy???? Your call folks.....
Meron na ba HD-XA2 dito sa tin? san makabili nyan? Worth it kaya?
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Meron na ba HD-XA2 dito sa tin? san makabili nyan? Worth it kaya?
posted this a million times..... PQ wise its all worth it. Format war cost? its your decision........I do reckon though that you have at least a sizable (40in plus) 720p monitor to appreciate the PQ part... :)
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i have an xa2...and i need a bigger screen ;D
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i have an xa2...and i need a bigger screen ;D
Magkano bili mo bro? San mo nabili?
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Hi Guys,
I'm wondering if someone could give me the difference between Toshiba’s HD-XA2 and HD-XE1, besides that ‘XE1’ is from the UK and the other is from the States. I tried going to their dedicated sites and found no difference at all. Am I missing something due to too much reading or I need not worry because specs-wise they’re both exactly the same.
Thanks guys, much appreciated.
:)
SIGHT
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difference is just model name....they're essentially the same. :)
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Thanks, Munskie. I thought so as well.
:)
SIGHT
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The difference btw HD-XA2 and HD-XE1 is where:
A = America
E = Europe
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Thanks Pchin and Munskie.
By The way after checking the net the XE1 is way more expensive than the XA2 at around 100 quid. With that in mind I'm hoping someone could point me to a shop in the Philippines where I can get the XA2 and for how much. My friend is going home on April and I've asked him to look it up and buy one for me.
I hope you guys could help me out. Any message is much appreciated, Shop name, location, price, and availability.
Thanks again.
SIGHT
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The last time I visited Listening in Style in Edsa Shangrila Mall, they have the Tosh HD-A2 in stock. Regret to tell you that I didn't ask the unit price since I already have it. If you have friend or relative that can buy & bring it over, it will certainly much cheaper for any model. Probably now they have the latest models or you can ask for special order.
Try also Infomaxx or check-out online stores such as Amazon which gives great deal with FREE shipping (in US). :)
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Thanks Pchin, I'll have my friend visit the shop and hopefully they'll have it on stock. By the way roughly how mush is the XA2 player? One more thing, as much as I wanted to buy it online but amazon won't deliver it here in Dubai, so right now my best chance it to get it from the Philippines. Fingers crossed 'Listening in Style' will have my Tosh-XA2 player this April.
:)
Sight
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Oh I see, you're in Dubai pala :) Currently Amazon's best price for XA2 is $600 with free shipping in US. This may cost around 36k-39k if shipped to Philippines but expect our local shops to sell it above 50k (if available).
The other cheaper option is get a relative to buy/import from Amazon to Philippine if the local shop price is too high. :)
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Thanks Pchin. Don't worry I'll ask my friend to look around (Edsa Shangrila and Park Square).
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After much reading now I’m confused.
Besides Toshiba’s up scaling capability for normal DVDs, will it be a multi-region DVD player as well? I’m a bit worried because my DVDs are bought not just from the Philippines, the US, but also back here in Dubai and in the UK. So what do you think guys will I have a problem region-wise?
One more thing, if I bought the player in the Philippines, and purchased HD titles from the US, will I have problems as well due to ‘REGION’?
Thanks.
SIGHT
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One more thing, if I bought the player in the Philippines, and purchased HD titles from the US, will I have problems as well due to ‘REGION’?
The Tosh HD player can only play region 1 SD-DVD. It's not a universal DVD player. There's no known hack at the moment but in future things may change. So you will still need your other DVD player to watch your regular DVDs that are not R1.
As for HD-DVD, there's no region implementation yet so a HD-DVD movie bought regardless from any country will be able to playback in the Tosh HD player.
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Again, thanks Pchin for the info.
:)
SIGHT
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sa amazon.com, the newest toshiba HD DVD Player (XA2) its worth 599 usd which translates to almost 30k php including shipping within the US. Outside shipment probably plus 5-7k. then taxes around 5k. mura pa din for 40k plus compared to spectra na 60k ang benta.. haaaaayy..
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Whoa... Spectra is selling at 60k? :o
Yep, it will be much cheaper (big saving) to import direct from Amazon ;)
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People who can afford to shell out that kind of money probably have access to get them online. ;D I really hope Toshiba makes some formal launching of HD DVD locally to set their pricing straight. My goodness, $600 is just 29T and they have the gall too sell it at 60T.
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O nga..60k is way too much....taking advantage of the situation & prey on some 'rich' victims >:( I just hope no one would simply walk to their door & get one (that mean he is overloaded with $$) ;D
Not sure how much Listening in Style would sell a similar model. I'm sure it should be cheaper than 60k.
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cardinal audio can get the xa2 for 50k
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palagi namang ganyan dyan sa spectra, parang hindi mga pilipino ang nagpapalakad. Mapagsamantala.
any ideas on how much taxes would be for a shipment from amazon.com?
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Not sure for the others but for the Ermita main post office, normally the custom will charge btw 30-40% (no fix rate) of the total item value + shipping cost, depending on your negotiation & the official's mood. Sometimes you can talk your way out by paying "the minimal fee" :)
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Not sure for the others but for the Ermita main post office, normally the custom will charge btw 30-40% (no fix rate) of the total item value + shipping cost, depending on your negotiation & the official's mood. Sometimes you can talk your way out by paying "the minimal fee" :)
How bout through JAC will it be more expensive than buying at SPECTRA?
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Yes, that's another good option. If ship tru JAC, this will indeed be much cheaper. Based on my HD-A2 weight I paid around 5k lang
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Yes, that's another good option. If ship tru JAC, this will indeed be much cheaper. Based on my HD-A2 weight I paid around 5k lang
Talga paul? so i can order from amazon and have it shipped to JAC NY and I pay around 5 thou lang? hmmm.. but can the HD-XA2 play DVDs from all regions?
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Just got back from Parksquare 1, Makati. Both Spectra & Infomax are selling the Tosh HD-A2 at 38k!! :o If import direct from Amazon tru JAC, total cost could be less than 23k..that's over 60% mark-up! :o
so i can order from amazon and have it shipped to JAC NY and I pay around 5 thou lang? hmmm.. but can the HD-XA2 play DVDs from all regions?
Yes you can but that was based on my HD-A2. To be safe, give it some allowance btw 5-7k. :)
Pls refer to my previous reply:
The Tosh HD player can only play region 1 SD-DVD. It's not a universal DVD player. There's no known hack at the moment but in future things may change. So you will still need your other DVD player to watch your regular DVDs that are not R1.
As for HD-DVD, there's no region implementation yet so a HD-DVD movie bought regardless from any country will be able to playback in the Tosh HD player.
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Just got back from Parksquare 1, Makati. Both Spectra & Infomax are selling the Tosh HD-A2 at 38k!! :o If import direct from Amazon tru JAC, total cost could be less than 23k..that's over 60% mark-up! :o
Yes you can but that was based on my HD-A2. To be safe, give it some allowance btw 5-7k. :)
Pls refer to my previous reply:
Yup the prices here are so ridiculous from hdtv to players etc. It seems like a sin for us local people here to buy these kind of equipment. I know they want to make money but the prices are a joke. By the way how is the warranty on these. Lets say you bought it here or shipped from amazon.
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I don't think online orders enjoy local warranties. Not even sure if international warranties are honored here.
And I also would consider it a sin to spend so much. Especially when there are so many hungry pinoys out there. (And to think we're not even talking about players from renowned audiphile brands like Meridian and Onkyo said to come out with their HD DVD players soon.)
But I heard among the rich and famous, sin is a non-issue. ;D (No offense meant to those who already spent that much on a player.)
Then again, that's the price you pay for being an early adopter of new technologies in a third world country. ;D
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Yup the prices here are so ridiculous from hdtv to players etc. It seems like a sin for us local people here to buy these kind of equipment. I know they want to make money but the prices are a joke. By the way how is the warranty on these. Lets say you bought it here or shipped from amazon.
Hehe...Let me just clarify this statement of mine, people might misunderstand me in a bad way hehe (no offense also on those with hi-end)... What im saying here is these stores, appliance stores, etc. that price these equipments at these ridiculous levels make it seem like these stuff are illegal/unholy or something. That we must not buy into these because its a sin to buy hidef equipment. They price it like they dont want to sell it..
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It's indeed a fact the local shop price is ridiculous high... :-\
Good thing there's online store & JAC to the rescue... ;D
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can somebody pls post how can i order an AX2 the 1080p hd dvd player of toshiba at amazon thru JAC? thanks
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can somebody pls post how can i order an AX2 the 1080p hd dvd player of toshiba at amazon thru JAC? thanks
email mam Leiden at this address ([email protected]). State your intention to order the item and then she will give you instructions and the rates. She will give you their New York address. Forward your amazon order to this address.
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Yes mam Leiden is very friendly & helpful. Don't forget to mention you're from PinoyDVD ;)
After the initial application is over, the rest is easy na...just a few clicks away at Amazon.
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pre,
im still confused on audio settings on toshiba a1.
if watching :
SD DVD- in audio settings is it discrete or pcm?IF PCM the settings on processor is multichannel?
Which is better settings optical or using analog multichannel?
hindi ko makita yung difference pag yung settings digital.
i know is pag true hd better yung pcm-multichannel settings
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pre,
im still confused on audio settings on toshiba a1.
if watching :
SD DVD- in audio settings is it discrete or pcm?IF PCM the settings on processor is multichannel?
Which is better settings optical or using analog multichannel?
hindi ko makita yung difference pag yung settings digital.
i know is pag true hd better yung pcm-multichannel settings
joel,
Connect your HD-a1 with optical/coaxial to your avr, as well as thru analogs 5.1(or PCM multichannel). When you watch SD DVD, pwede sya sa dalawa. preference mo na yan. pag dolby trueHD, analog 5.1 or PCm multichannel is your one and only option, unless you have a hdmi receiver.
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That's one of the main advantages of having a HD-A1. You'll be able to enjoy THD tru the analog connections if your A/V receiver can handle multichannel PCM signal.
A big saving without getting a HDMI receiver. Unlike the 2nd gen HD-A2 that has no analog connections :-[
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joel,
Connect your HD-a1 with optical/coaxial to your avr, as well as thru analogs 5.1(or PCM multichannel). When you watch SD DVD, pwede sya sa dalawa. preference mo na yan. pag dolby trueHD, analog 5.1 or PCm multichannel is your one and only option, unless you have a hdmi receiver.
thanks pare,
kanya kanya na lang palang preference pag dating sa sd dvd.
kasi hindi ko din ma identify kung anung options ang ok,optical or pcm-multichannel.
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That's one of the main advantages of having a HD-A1. You'll be able to enjoy THD tru the analog connections if your A/V receiver can handle multichannel PCM signal.
A big saving without getting a HDMI receiver. Unlike the 2nd gen HD-A2 that has no analog connections :-[
bro toshiba hd-xa2 ba player mo? sa avs forum its the best upscaling for sd dvd.
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I'm using the entry level HD-A2. Yep, HD-XA2 with the Silicon Optix Reon-VX chip does a great job but it has both pro & con. :)
You may check out the HD-XA2 review at
http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/hreview_hdxa2030207.html
HD-A2 review is at http://www.hometheaterblog.com/hometheater/2007/01/toshiba_hda2_re.html
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That's one of the main advantages of having a HD-A1. You'll be able to enjoy THD tru the analog connections if your A/V receiver can handle multichannel PCM signal.
A big saving without getting a HDMI receiver. Unlike the 2nd gen HD-A2 that has no analog connections :-[
hi pchin, how do you connect your HD-A2 to your receiver? I am planning to buy HD-A2 also instead of 360 + HDDVD drive ;D
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Hi Lantis, initially I connected my A2 to my old Denon receiver using the Optical connection but recently I upgraded to a Yamaha HDMI receiver. :)
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Hi Lantis, initially I connected my A2 to my old Denon receiver using the Optical connection but recently I upgraded to a Yamaha HDMI receiver. :)
wowowoow..! you're very fast to upgrade! Sige I'll settle for optical connection muna then wait for two-three years as I have only bought my receiver last weekend ;D
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I see congrat on your new receiver :) Yeah use it for at least the next 3 years or more to mamimize your investment return & then see how it goes with the market.
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To All Early Adapters of HD-DVD,
My friend bought an HD-DVD from Home Theater last December, Anybody encounter a problem of skipping when playing a concert HD-DVD?, But while playing movies it is just fine. We have tested 2 disc. Manilow Live & Chicago & E.W.F Greek theater concert and it produces the same result of skipping.Thanks a Bunch
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Ernie, what HD player did your friend use?
Some Xbox 360 owners reported both the mentioned tittles are unable to play properly in their HD add-on. Not sure if there's a latest firmware that can resolve the problem. Perhaps those actual Xbox 360 HD owners can shed some light.
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anybody bought Tosh HD-DVDs and shipped to JohnnyAir AND claimed the free 5 Toshiba HDDVDs from their promo? ;D ;D ;D
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Don't mention the 5 HD-DVDs rebate...my 3 HD-DVD rebate form had been sent out since in Jan until now after counting the countless stars...wala pa. I think someone will have to wait till 2008 :-[
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Ernie, what HD player did your friend use?
Some Xbox 360 owners reported both the mentioned tittles are unable to play properly in their HD add-on. Not sure if there's a latest firmware that can resolve the problem. Perhaps those actual Xbox 360 HD owners can shed some light.
My friend have the 1st generation HD-A1.Thanks!Paul
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Wow..Amazon is selling its HD-A2 at the lowest so far $309! :o
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Anyone who can share their knowledge on how to make the dvd region free on an hd-dvdplayer? Thanks!
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Wow..Amazon is selling its HD-A2 at the lowest so far $309! :o
hmmmmmm, let me compute if you import......more or less, around 20k...including shipping here.....its getting down....
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Anyone who can share their knowledge on how to make the dvd region free on an hd-dvdplayer? Thanks!
Ernie, you may check out the links below:
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdhacks.php?select=Toshiba+HD-A1
http://geekswithblogs.net/lorint/archive/2006/04/21/75795.aspx
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hmmmmmm, let me compute if you import......more or less, around 20k...including shipping here.....its getting down....
hmmm... bababa pa ng around 10k yan bibili na ako.. :) :) :)
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hmmm... bababa pa ng around 10k yan bibili na ako.. :) :) :)
Konti nalang. 10k narin yan. But at 20k. That's a steal. :)
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20k is cheap na...some cellphone cost 25k & above na... ;D
Maybe by year end it will be 10k :P
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20k is cheap na...some cellphone cost 25k & above na... ;D
Maybe by year end it will be 10k :P
Hintayin ko na lang.. :) :) :)
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Still fighting the itch. How long would i last? ;D
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That's indeed a very hard question to answer.
The mind is always in conflict with the heart. :-X
Do you have a HDTV na?
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Yes! I have a 27" 720p LCD TV. not ideal i know. Would this HD player give me an edge over the SD DVD player?
Given the value of the 5 free disc, The player would only cost around $200.[one of my basis] not a bad deal eh?
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still itching... to pay taxes or to buy HD-A2? I have around 15k of witholding tax tumaas kasi bracket ko eh :'( :'( :'(
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still itching... to pay taxes or to buy HD-A2? I have around 15k of witholding tax tumaas kasi bracket ko eh :'( :'( :'(
Pay your taxes first.. Help the government.. hehehe
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Pay your taxes first.. Help the government.. hehehe
::)
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Oh that's right, your obligation to the Government must come first :P
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I heard that when you buy from legit local vendors of imported stuff, you're helping the economy prosper and supporting imported stuff is a way of indirectly paying customs duties and taxes. At least you benefit from your purchase.
Ofcourse, paying taxes is an obligation that carries imprisonment and fine if you fail to do it correctly. ;D
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Ofcourse, paying taxes is an obligation that carries imprisonment and fine if you fail to do it correctly. ;D
So Lantis the answer is obvious naman.... :D
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Arrgghhh.....gusto ko na mag HD!!!!!! bitin yung Pioneer 696!!!! ;D ;D ;D....kainis yang HD-A2 ng toshiba....Sana HD-DVD na ang manalo sa format wars ;D ;D ;D
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I heard that when you buy from legit local vendors of imported stuff, you're helping the economy prosper and supporting imported stuff is a way of indirectly paying customs duties and taxes. At least you benefit from your purchase.
Ofcourse, paying taxes is an obligation that carries imprisonment and fine if you fail to do it correctly. ;D
I won't drag this thread to a government tax stuff since it's OT na hehehe.. I wanted to see Matrix in full HD so I will just wait until May then I'll buy one ;D
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I wanted to see Matrix in full HD so I will just wait until May then I'll buy one ;D
Not a problem. You're welcome to visit my Comfort Zone in May to witness the movie first hand in HD ;)
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Toshiba Second-Gen HD DVD Firmware Upgrade V1.5 Now Available
Thu Apr 12, 2007
Toshiba has released a new firmware upgrade for its second-generation HD DVD disc players, dubbed Version 1.5.
The upgrade follows on the heels of Version 1.3, which the company issued only just issued this past February. This new download first appeared this week on Toshiba's official support site, and according to the documentation from Toshiba, does not offer any new features or enhancements. However, it does fix certain connectivity and playback issues, according to this statement:
"As part of our commitment to provide world-class service to our customers, Toshiba is supplying this firmware update for use by purchasers of Toshiba HD DVD Player models HD-XA2, HD-A20, HD-A2, HD-A2W and HD-D2. This firmware update addresses certain disc playback and HDMI/DVI related problems identified by Toshiba."
Note that if you cannot (or choose not) to download the upgrade directly via your player's Ethernet port (refer to your deck's manual for instructions), you can contact Toshiba directly for a firmware CD, which the company will ship to all registered HD-XA2, HD-A20, HD-A2, HD-A2W and HD-D2 owners, free of charge.
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Not a problem. You're welcome to visit my Comfort Zone in May to witness the movie first hand in HD ;)
thanks pchin! I'll take that offer if I don't have the my own player by then ::)
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someone sold me a brand new hd dvd add on for the xbox 360 40% less SRP no warranty though since bought sa states. he bought it for $150
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I survived the itch. I just wait for a price drop on PS3. I believe, it will happen sooner since they cancelled the 20 Gb model.
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In that case, I'm waiting for a price drop on BD players ;D
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I survived the itch. I just wait for a price drop on PS3. I believe, it will happen sooner since they cancelled the 20 Gb model.
another dark side supporter ;D I want to import the Tosh A20, but for PS3 having almost the same price and also a game console which is readily available here... haaaay.. :-[
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In that case, I'm waiting for a price drop on BD players ;D
Are you also getting a BD player? I thought you are a die-hard HD-DVD fan? :) :) :)
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I am I am still a strong HD-DVD advocater...I'm just waiting a price drop in BD players until at a very affordable 10k level which may take a few years... ;D
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I am I am still a strong HD-DVD advocater...I'm just waiting a price drop in BD players until at a very affordable 10k level which may take a few years... ;D
pchin, maybe you want to change your profile from "100% HD-DVD Supporter" to "99% HD-DVD 1% Blu-Ray Supporter" :P
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I'm waiting for the combo player but it seems it may take a while... :( :( :(
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I'm waiting for the combo player but it seems it may take a while... :( :( :(
oreoshake, I agree with Munskie in response to doughn's intention to get a combo player :) Pls refer below:
if i were you, ill avoid this one.....with its SRP of $1200, you can get a stand alone HD DVD player (around $350) and a PS3 ($600) and still have change...........and LG isnt even supporting HD DVD's iHD heatures....
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oreoshake, I agree with Munskie in response to doughn's intention to get a combo player :) Pls refer below:
Hmmm... how bout the combo disc? Is it already in the pipeline?
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Yep HD-DVD Combo (consist both SD-DVD & HD-DVD) is available na but only for certain movies. :)
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Toshiba HD-A2 has just increased from $309 to $339 in Amazon. Ano ba yaaaaan..! Kung kelan decided na ko napaisip tuloy ulit ako..!! >:(
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Just get the AX-2. The superior upconversion of SD DVD alone is worth the current price.
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Just get the AX-2. The superior upconversion of SD DVD alone is worth the current price.
Considering I have a Pioneer 696 already and my LCD is only 32" not to mention the price difference... :'(
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Just get the AX-2. The superior upconversion of SD DVD alone is worth the current price.
How did you find the unit striderhiryu1? Any problems so far? Have you tried the latest 1.5 firmware na? :)
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Just get the AX-2. The superior upconversion of SD DVD alone is worth the current price.
Where did you get the unit? How much? My display is a 40" lcd 720P will it be enough to enjoy HD?
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Yep HD-DVD Combo (consist both SD-DVD & HD-DVD) is available na but only for certain movies. :)
How bout combo HD-DVD and Blu ray? Meron na ba?
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No, I do not have the AX-2 (or XA-2 ba?)yet. I have the first gen units a Japanese Toshiba XA-1 and US Toshiba HD-A1. Both units are working fine pa naman esp. with FW2.1 so no immediate plan to upgrade. XA-1/A-1 upconversion is already top notch and feedback from AVS forum is tha XA-2 is even better. You have to have 1080p unit though to fully take advantage of the units capability. I recently bought the Bravia 46V2500 and couldn't be happier (PS3, XA-1 connected via HDMI and XBOX 360 via VGA)
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How bout combo HD-DVD and Blu ray? Meron na ba?
Yes there is one being developed by Warner and they call it Total HD, they plan to release one as early as June this year. You can check more of it here (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/home-entertainment/total-hd-discs-coming-in-june-format-war-continues-244804.php).
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How bout combo HD-DVD and Blu ray? Meron na ba?
yup. naglabas ang LG ng combo blu-ray and hd-dvd player i saw one sa megamall.
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yup. naglabas ang LG ng combo blu-ray and hd-dvd player i saw one sa megamall.
How much? Is it any good?
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that lg player does not implement the full features of hd dvd
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How much? Is it any good?
Bro, you asked a similar question previously where Munskie had answered: ;D
if i were you, ill avoid this one.....with its SRP of $1200, you can get a stand alone HD DVD player (around $350) and a PS3 ($600) and still have change...........and LG isnt even supporting HD DVD's iHD heatures....
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Bro, you asked a similar question previously where Munskie had answered: ;D
forgot bout it.. ;D ;D ;D
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Anyone else here also own the HD-A2? Have you updated to the latest firmware & experience any playback issues? :)
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With Toshiba giving a rebate of $100, I might order one at Amazon. One thing that bugs me is how much improvement is it from upscaled SD to HD: nung nagmeet kami ni sir jojit sa ParkSquare Spectra they were playing Punisher Bluray at 1080i in a Toshiba 37" LCD.. two feet away I think the PQ is the same as my player (Pioneer 696) so my enthusiasm with HD went down :'( anyone care to convince me otherwise? Baka pangit lang configuration ng Spectra ::)
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ParkSquare Spectra they were playing Punisher Bluray at 1080i in a Toshiba 37" LCD.. two feet away I think the PQ is the same as my player (Pioneer 696) so my enthusiasm with HD went down :'( anyone care to convince me otherwise? Baka pangit lang configuration ng Spectra ::)
The poor PQ could due to a number of probable reasons such as:
1. Poor cable connection (using composite ba?) ;D
2. The LCD Configuration isn't optimized
Lantis, you may visit my HT Comfort Zone to experience HD upclose & personal! Just PM me if you're interested. :D
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With Toshiba giving a rebate of $100, I might order one at Amazon. One thing that bugs me is how much improvement is it from upscaled SD to HD: nung nagmeet kami ni sir jojit sa ParkSquare Spectra they were playing Punisher Bluray at 1080i in a Toshiba 37" LCD.. two feet away I think the PQ is the same as my player (Pioneer 696) so my enthusiasm with HD went down :'( anyone care to convince me otherwise? Baka pangit lang configuration ng Spectra ::)
Exactly what I noticed also, the menu was really sharp diba, but when I checked the movie, its really not impressive PQ wise. I also noticed this way before when they were playing Italian Job on hddvd (same screen ata), It is also not impressive, as in parang dvd. This made me pass on the Italian Job on hddvd bec of what I saw. But I agree with Pchin, it may be configuration, or cable connection. I just have a 32 inch and I tell you some movies that I have on hddvd have truly amazing PQ.
Titles for me that are really great PQ wise are
The Mummy, The Mummy returns, King Kong, Robin hood, Bourne supremacy, Happy Feet, Fast and the furious..just to name a few..
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Or probably they using a low performance HD Toshiba 37" LCD.
As far as the movie Punisher is concerned, it's in 1080p & received a 4.5-star rating. The reviewer writes:
"The Punisher' is definitely one of the best Blu-ray releases I've seen yet. It is certainly the most consistent, delivering a picture that clearly looks like high-definition for most of its runtime."
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/punisher.html :)
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Is it really worth it to buy HD-DVD player now? A friend is planning to go to the US soon and I was wondering if I buy the XA2 from Amazon and have it delivered to his address in the US. Will he be taxed in the customs here in the Phil when he gets back?
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oreoshake, perhaps this link may answer some of your questions :)
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07139/787313-28.stm
For new players, you will indeed be taxed but you could pretend it's a old or used gift provided it's not brand new sealed. Your friend could open the new box, remove the manual, batteries, sricker, etc & re-packaged so taht it won't appear to be new... ;)
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am currently using a panasonic projector pt ae 1000 in 36 sqm basement room.
Through a relative, I have placed an order with amazon for a toshiba xa2 and unit is expected to arrive end of this month.
can someone recommend best brand for hdmi 1.3 cable and 120 in. screen available locally and names of a/v shops that i can deal with.
thanks in advance.
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Thought you should know --
TOSHIBA HD A20 HD-DVD. Now Available at The Home Theater -
(http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9608/dsc00144ri4.th.jpg) (http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00144ri4.jpg)
Last week pa available, not sure kung meron pa. Just give them a call - 813-8443 (Sonny Tuazon)
Cheers!!!
Compaq
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Thought you should know --
TOSHIBA HD A20 HD-DVD. Now Available at The Home Theater -
(http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9608/dsc00144ri4.th.jpg) (http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00144ri4.jpg)
Last week pa available, not sure kung meron pa. Just give them a call - 813-8443 (Sonny Tuazon)
Cheers!!!
Compaq
ang mahal pa nagtanong ako hehehe ;D baka HD-A2 na lang muna ako ::)
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Lantis, what are u waiting for...?? :P
Maybe they also sell HD-A2... ;D
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Those of you who have friends or relatives staying abroad may able to help out. :)
Deal of the day: Toshiba HD DVD player for $299
Posted by CNET News.com Staff. May 21, 2007
Down from its debut price of $500, this mid-high-end HD DVD player is offered at a $200 discount at several sellers right now. We did the research for you: read on for a great deal with free shipping. We like this one because Circuit City also posts a rebate for 5 free DVDs to go with your new equipment. Check CNET Reviews (link below) for plenty of details & consumer feedback.
What: Toshiba HD DVD Player (HDA2)
How much: $299
Shipping: Free
Where: Circuit City (via Dealhack)
http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9721334-7.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20
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Lantis, what are u waiting for...?? :P
Maybe they also sell HD-A2... ;D
sonny told me to call later ;D
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Lantis, let us know the price after you've spoken to Sonny.
Looks like you can still able to make it in time for the Ultimate Matrix Trilogy!! ;D
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Lantis, let us know the price after you've spoken to Sonny.
Looks like you can still able to make it in time for the Ultimate Matrix Trilogy!! ;D
he said he'll give me discount if I'll get the A20 but it's a secret price for me ::)
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That's great bro! Looking forward to welcoming you to the world of HD DVD...
The Look & Sound of Perfect! ;)
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he said he'll give me discount if I'll get the A20 but it's a secret price for me ::)
Any hint how much?
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Any hint how much?
sir jvm, the price is still too steep with the discount... masyadong mahal I think it's still cheaper to ship from Amazon... no warranty though :-\
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sir jvm, the price is still too steep with the discount... masyadong mahal I think it's still cheaper to ship from Amazon... no warranty though :-\
Kaya pala secret, kasi mahal pa ;D
Thanks bro.
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sir jvm, the price is still too steep with the discount... masyadong mahal I think it's still cheaper to ship from Amazon... no warranty though :-\
Hi Lantis,
Try do some computations. Yung landed cost mo kung sa Amazon ka bibili (free shipping to US territory, ship to Phils via JAC, 5k to 6k), mukhang malapit na rin sa presyo ni Sonny ::)
But yeah, the fact remains that it's not cheap :P
Was supposed to get one, but got a BIG HALT from wifey. Malaki na raw gastos sa HT renov hehe ;D
Cheers!!!
Compaq
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Seven Free HD DVDs with Purchase of Toshiba HD-A2 HD DVD Player and The Matrix Trilogy from Amazon
Here's a great way to get started in HD DVD. Buy a Toshiba HD-A2 HD-DVD Player from Amazon.com and either The Ultimate Matrix Collection or The Complete Matrix Trilogy and then get up to seven HD DVDs free. See the full details below.
Step 1:
Add the Toshiba HD-A2 HD-DVD Player to your Shopping Cart. The HD-A2 is now at our lowest price ever--less than $300. (Applies only to products sold by Amazon.com. Does not apply to products sold on our site by third-party merchants or through third-party areas such as Amazon.com Marketplace, Auctions, or zShops.)
Step 2:
With the purchase of the Toshiba HD-A2 HD-DVD Player, you qualify to receive five free HD DVDs from Toshiba after mail-in rebate. Download and print out the rebate form. Choose your five free HD DVDs from the 15 shown on the rebate form and follow the instructions on that form for mailing it to Toshiba after your purchase. Toshiba will send you the five free HD DVDs by mail.
Step 3:
After you add the Toshiba HD-A2 HD-DVD Player to your shopping cart, add either The Ultimate Matrix Collection or The Complete Matrix Trilogy on HD DVD. Then choose two HD DVDs from the list below (*I think the list is all of the HD-DVD's released minus Matrix and Planet Earth) and add them to your cart and proceed to checkout. When you have all of the Toshiba HD-A2 HD-DVD Player, one of the Matrix collections, and the two HD DVDs in your order, the price of the two HD DVDs you choose will be deducted from your order at checkout. (Applies only to products sold by Amazon.com. Does not apply to products sold on our site by third-party merchants or through third-party areas such as Amazon.com Marketplace, Auctions, or zShops.)
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Wow..there you go..the choice is obvious! ;D
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i think people are now listening that's the way to win a war ;)
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Wala bang kukuha sa Amazon ng HD-A2 as what Lantis have suggested? Makikisabay sana ako :)
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have some conflicts jct_27 :-[ but get one now it's only $266 the price is fluctuating heavily ::)
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Toshiba Reports Strong Sales For HD DVD Player Promo
A week into Toshiba's month-long HD DVD player rebate offer, the manufacturer is reporting a five- to ten-fold increase in sales at some retail outlets.
As we recently reported, Toshiba is offering a $100 rebate on their HD-A2 model player through June 12, dropping the entry-level price for an HD DVD player to an all-time low of $299. Amazon.com has added its own discount to the mix, offering the player at the bottom-line price of $238. As a result, the player jumped to the top of Amazon's best-selling DVD players list over the weekend, where it still remains today, even though Amazon itself is now out of stock, and is offering the player through its Crutchfield (at $299).
In an interview with Video Business, Jodi Sally, VP of marketing for Toshiba said "We’re thrilled to see that consumers are, by far, choosing Toshiba’s HD DVD players as their source for high-definition."
The second phase of Toshiba's HD DVD player promo runs June 10-16th, when the $100 rebate will be extended to all Toshiba HD DVD players.
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Toshiba Reports Strong Sales For HD DVD Player Promo
A week into Toshiba's month-long HD DVD player rebate offer, the manufacturer is reporting a five- to ten-fold increase in sales at some retail outlets.
As we recently reported, Toshiba is offering a $100 rebate on their HD-A2 model player through June 12, dropping the entry-level price for an HD DVD player to an all-time low of $299. Amazon.com has added its own discount to the mix, offering the player at the bottom-line price of $238. As a result, the player jumped to the top of Amazon's best-selling DVD players list over the weekend, where it still remains today, even though Amazon itself is now out of stock, and is offering the player through its Crutchfield (at $299).
In an interview with Video Business, Jodi Sally, VP of marketing for Toshiba said "We’re thrilled to see that consumers are, by far, choosing Toshiba’s HD DVD players as their source for high-definition."
The second phase of Toshiba's HD DVD player promo runs June 10-16th, when the $100 rebate will be extended to all Toshiba HD DVD players.
great news for hddvd. also sales in hddvd disc is picking up on eproductwars.com :)
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The toshiba A2 is now number one in the amazon dvd section. Wow excellent..Also planet earth hddvd is now again at #4, maybe picking up steam again after stronger sales of hddvd players when it hit 299 bucks..Recently just asked Spectra just for kicks and the Toshiba A2 they are selling is still at 38 thousand pesos. Wow still more than a thousand bucks.
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Thinking of getting the HD-A2 Ray? ;)
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..Recently just asked Spectra just for kicks and the Toshiba A2 they are selling is still at 38 thousand pesos. Wow still more than a thousand bucks.
What? More expensive than HD A20 available from other HT shop?
Cheers!!!
Compaq
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I always find Spectra's price more expensive than the other stores.
There's one time they tried to sell a used HD DVD demo movie at P1,600 & refuse to give any discount at all! :o
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Thinking of getting the HD-A2 Ray? ;)
hehe..dreaming pa at the moment. I really would like a standalone sana
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gud am guys.. i got question.
how much it cost in peso when i order the HD-A2 hd dvd player? with the standard shipping rates? how many weeks? ok ba order online? thanks po..
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jowi, you can refer to earlier posts discussing the unit & shipping cost to the Philippines or purchasing it locally (with warranty).
Basically, you can check at Amazon & convert it to peso using today's exchange rate. Shipping via JAC is around 6k & delivery is less than 2 weeks. ;)
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Just got my Toshiba HD A20 from Amazon for 320 dollars and 6 thousand pesos shipping from Johnny Air Cargo. :D Shipping time is just 1 week, Just updated my firmware and it was the longest 30 minutes of my life whew!! ;). Just have to get rid of my xbox360 add on. Any takers? very very slightly use :Dd
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z91/mulawin789/DSC00090.jpg)
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maximus you got pm ;D
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Congrats Maximus! neutral ka pala!
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Just got my Toshiba HD A20 from Amazon for 320 dollars and 6 thousand pesos shipping from Johnny Air Cargo. :D Shipping time is just 1 week, Just updated my firmware and it was the longest 30 minutes of my life whew!! ;). Just have to get rid of my xbox360 add on. Any takers? very very slightly use :Dd
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z91/mulawin789/DSC00090.jpg)
I'm tempted to buy the Toshiba HD XA2!!! ??? ??? ???
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Wow congrat Maximus! :D
Btw, how did u get your Blood Diamond so early? ???
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Have a local supplier here for my hi def dvds. Usually a week earlier than the listed release date in the US. I get it every Wednesdays :D
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Wow congrat Maximus! :D
Btw, how did u get your Blood Diamond so early? ???
I just got back from hong kong and they also have blood diamond already in hmv hong kong. I was indecisive on purchasing it and when I got back to the store its already gone. Shucks..I have no time na to go to other branches to get it. Its pretty expensive compared to prices at amazon. Its around 230 hkd, almost 30 dollars. Cd warehouse in times square also have Dantes Peak already, A July 10 release in amazon, Im also indecisive, and did not get it hehe..Oh well... I will just wait a couple of weeks for these. However I got the following in advance, The untouchables and The warriors..
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amazon price for the A2: US$243.88..free shipping...hope word reaches our local sellers and we finally get affordable HD players.
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The HD A20 is $284 though-- free shipping is only in the US.
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amazon price for the A2: US$243.88..free shipping...hope word reaches our local sellers and we finally get affordable HD players.
Just checked at Amazon & it's now selling at $238.88 + FREE Shipping in US!! :D
If we import it in plus shipping fee, etc the unit will cost around 19k only!! :o
Geez..it's getting cheaper & cheaper thus, making it a great choice for those who want to get their feets wet & jump into the HD band wagon. ;)
oreoshake, it's time to get one na.... ;D
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I heard that the hd-e1 launched here is region 3 for sd dvds, can anyone confirm?
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Just checked at Amazon & it's now selling at $238.88 + FREE Shipping in US!! :D
If we import it in plus shipping fee, etc the unit will cost around 19k only!! :o
Geez..it's getting cheaper & cheaper thus, making it a great choice for those who want to get their feets wet & jump into the HD band wagon. ;)
oreoshake, it's time to get one na.... ;D
I'll wait it out muna.. 3rd gen HD players (Bluray and HD-DVD) are coming out Q4 2007 and beyond.. ;D ;D ;D
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I heard that the hd-e1 launched here is region 3 for sd dvds, can anyone confirm?
As far as I know, HD DVD has never officially launched in the Phil. If the supplier imported it then it will play R2 & R4. Unless they have modified or unlock the region coding to be a universal SD player.
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From the toshiba seller I talked to last weekend, he said that the HDDVD player that they are selling here in the Phils is coded as region 3 if you are playing SD. For the HDDVD itself, obviously, it not.
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and aw yeah, I saw a Toshiba HD-E1 being sold at Robinsons Metro East for 39+++k.
but if you buy an LCD with them, you automatically get a 10k discount on buying the HD DVD.
At last, you can buy it locally with a year warranty but... There is no free HD DVD unlike in the US but... the salesman told me that he can arrange or request their distributor to provide one, at least. Plus, it comes with free HDMI cable. Also, it is DVD coded as region 3, for HD DVD obviously its not and its firmware is already up to date.
pchin told me that it was the european counterpart of HD-A2, which cost about 200+ dollars in Amazon. Much cheaper indeed.
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and aw yeah, I saw a Toshiba HD-E1 being sold at Robinsons Metro East for 39+++k.
1080i only sir 8).
Looks like it's going to be a long wait, online purchase is the next best option :)
Cheers!!!
Compaq
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Yesterday was in megamall and checked out infomax. They have the toshiba A2, I asked the lady how much she quoted me 19,900, I went wow thats great price already, but the other lady reconfirmed it and said its around 24 or 26 thousand (have to reconfirm) I cant remember. I think this may be one of the lowest prices offering here for this player. I dont know about other stores, but for sure those appliance stores like automatic center, Ansons etc are more expensive. E1 is 39,900 so its way overpriced.
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Yesterday was in megamall and checked out infomax. They have the toshiba A2, I asked the lady how much she quoted me 19,900, I went wow thats great price already, but the other lady reconfirmed it and said its around 24 or 26 thousand (have to reconfirm) I cant remember. I think this may be one of the lowest prices offering here for this player. I dont know about other stores, but for sure those appliance stores like automatic center, Ansons etc are more expensive. E1 is 39,900 so its way overpriced.
Hope it's a new stock & not the one they are using on display for some time now.
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They have the toshiba A2, I asked the lady how much she quoted me 19,900, I went wow thats great price already, but the other lady reconfirmed it and said its around 24 or 26 thousand (have to reconfirm) I cant remember.
Yes if selling at 19.9k that's considered a very very good price :)
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hi. are these toshiba hd dvd players region free when playing dvds or locked to r1 titles only?
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hi. are these toshiba hd dvd players region free when playing dvds or locked to r1 titles only?
The Toshiba A2 (US model) is locked to R1 dvds.
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^ i thought there was no region coding for HD dvds? (according to wikipedia, that is ;D)
doesn't the region coding for US sold dvd players refer only to regular or standard dvds?
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That's what aeris30 actually meant. The region coding is applicable for R1 SD DVD only. ;)
As for HD DVD, there's no region coding implementation as of this moment. :)
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^if that's the case pala, if i get the gen 2 or gen 3 toshiba hd-dvd player pala from abroad, it will only be able to read and upscale my R1 dvds? which means i need a locally sourced upscaling dvd player to upscale my R3 dvds? darn. >:(
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That's right tonedeaf. Not unless a hack code will be available in the near future to open the region lock of the player.
Meanwhile, I'm afraid you will need either a R3 or universal up-scale player to playback your R3 DVDs. :-[
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ok, dvd region coding check :D
R1 use hd dvd player to upscale,
R3 use ps3 to upscale
R2 how?
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For R2 DVDs, you can use an universal DVD player that has up-scale capability. :)
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no pooint getting so many dvd player ;D
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Agreed. No point buying so many different region DVDs...So I guess you will have to avoid buying R2 DVDs or try to unlock your PS3. ;D
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u got any idea how to unlock? with a key? ;D
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no pooint getting so many dvd player ;D
Hello, sorry I dont agree with this for the following reasons
1. those upscaling dvds are very cheap now. Pioneer have it at around 6 to 8 thousand. Unless you want hi ends like the denons etc. If space is a prob, Im not sure what the solution is but to me well worth it to buy separate upscaler and find space for it.. The main reason for me is: I will not use the ps3 as an upscaler bec I would limit it very much to bluray and games, some people have problems already with their lens, rom etc. in their PS3( I read on other sites, this is not to scare you, it may be just lemon units) so I dont know, its just me that I want to limit my ps3 to bluray and games. The lesser abuse the better. Of course this is just me. Maybe im little more paranoid (especially on something worth over 20 thousand pesos) hehe..
2. If you watch hd, no need to concentrate on upscaling unless you have a huge dvd collection. But of course we will still buy dvds, I still do buy dvds bec those hd discs are way more expensive, especially now the dvds are better priced at 199 to 299, so I just have a sony n76 upscaler, to play all dvds.
3. I have a separate dvd for those p......td discs, those china made. 2 to 3 grand you can get one. The prob I have now is the component connections in that player will not work, so im using my old pioneer 393 for p....td hehe..
I dont know, this is just my opinion but 6 to 8 thousand for a upscaling player that will play every region to me is well worth it. Then if you have those excellent hddvd players that can upscale, I would use this for upscaling region 1, These are standalones so to me better than lets say a ps3, which is a gaming machine.
Of course just my opinion..
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thanks for ur opinion, spoiled ps3, my frend in singapore and kuala lumpur are affected, almost 10 units aredi, those with warranty are luckier, spore sony will change the lense, wherelese those without will have the option to either shipped the unit back to hong kong or wherever they bought it from or like my fren who bought hte lense from ebay for abt 50 usd incl shipping
well, its just tat i aredi have a dvd player, (htib type) so i would have to retain tat, and by adding a hd dvd player, i would need to stack it up on my current player, the 76 sony upscaler is a good one, i bought it early this year for my mother in law to go with their LCD, plays all disc 8)
u cant expect much from a china player eh? :D
well, i was hoping the hd dvd player has region free for dvd, im not sure whether those sold in spore is region free or limited to region 3
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rx330,
we have same problem regarding toshiba hd, hindi ma maximize sa r3 SdDvd. I hope
someone can help us to hack our unit para no need to buy seperate upscaling dvd player.
toshiba is very good in upscaling r1 SdDvd.
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Tampering the firmware may prove to be a hazardous proposition.
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So even the Toshibas in Singapore and other asean countries are locked to upscaling R1 dvds only? thanks
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im not sure, maybe later i will email to toshiba spore and check on it, hopefully they know, but for the official price they are selling i can get 2 units of A2 ;D
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rx330,
we have same problem regarding toshiba hd, hindi ma maximize sa r3 SdDvd. I hope
someone can help us to hack our unit para no need to buy seperate upscaling dvd player.
toshiba is very good in upscaling r1 SdDvd.
These early gen players are very unstable, so hacking or fiddling with firmwares is not a good proposition. You have to admit that when you bought these players that playing R3 dvds just wont do. I would have suggested that you buy an asian version of the Ps3 so you'll be format neutral and at the same time, multi-region on dvd, (at least on R1 and R3). But since budget is an issue, you just have to live with playing R1 DVDs on that Tosh Hd-A1.
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These early gen players are very unstable, so hacking or fiddling with firmwares is not a good proposition. You have to admit that when you bought these players that playing R3 dvds just wont do. I would have suggested that you buy an asian version of the Ps3 so you'll be format neutral and at the same time, multi-region on dvd, (at least on R1 and R3). But since budget is an issue, you just have to live with playing R1 DVDs on that Tosh Hd-A1.
sir my asian ps3 only plays r3 dvds, tried playing r1 dvds ayaw :(
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sir my asian ps3 only plays r3 dvds, tried playing r1 dvds ayaw :(
hindi talaga. I was suggesting sanmig to add the asian ps3. He already have a HD-A1 That way, hell be format neutral, and multi-region in DVD (at least to r1 and r3).
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hindi talaga. I was suggesting sanmig to add the asian ps3. He already have a HD-A1 That way, hell be format neutral, and multi-region in DVD (at least to r1 and r3).
hehe my bad.. thought you meant the asian ps3 plays r1 and r3 dvds :D
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These early gen players are very unstable, so hacking or fiddling with firmwares is not a good proposition. You have to admit that when you bought these players that playing R3 dvds just wont do. I would have suggested that you buy an asian version of the Ps3 so you'll be format neutral and at the same time, multi-region on dvd, (at least on R1 and R3). But since budget is an issue, you just have to live with playing R1 DVDs on that Tosh Hd-A1.
ps3 for upscaling r3 is ok, medyo delikado lang sa lens , budget issue pare.
im looking for upscaling dvd player for component & hdmi para sa pj ma upscale din.
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i need a hd dvd player.... transformer is out soon :'(
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It's time to consider investing in a HD DVD player + FREE HD DVDs.
The price has dropped to $230 at Amazon. ;)
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whichi model is tat? i got a qout, hd a2 for 235.99, no free hd dvds , but they ship to malaysia
i dun think amazon is willing to ship over, shud i get the A2? or the A3 or the A20?
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bestbuy offers hd-a2 for $249.99 plus you get 7 hd dvd, while hd-a30 is priced at 399.99 plus 9 hd dvd.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp;jsessionid=RC443WDF35ZGXKC4D3KVAIA?id=pcat17053&type=page&skuId=8021767&productId=1158323325814&h=387
http://bestbuy.shoplocal.com/bestbuy/default.aspx?action=browsepageflash&storeid=2413001&pagenumber=16&rapid=455925&prvid=093007ba
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for those thinking to getting this player from amazon thru Johnny air, shipping cost is around 6,800 pesos. Actual weight of the player is only 15 lbs, but because of the box size, volume weight was used. It became 26 lbs. :o
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^ hu-wat? kala ko pa naman an additional 3k lang on the price. darn.
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anybody wanna do a group buy? :D i have a sister in the US and she can have it shipped door to door. I can card it from here then we split everything right down equally.
100$ ang balikbayan box which can probably hold 5 units.
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Bro! Iam interested in the groupbuy, u can just pm me the details!
Thanks!
;D
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anybody wanna do a group buy? :D i have a sister in the US and she can have it shipped door to door. I can card it from here then we split everything right down equally.
100$ ang balikbayan box which can probably hold 5 units.
puwede ako pasama oppo 980H sa group buy nyo? ;D ;D ;D
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(http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/images/post/4/4540/original.jpeg)
"Both high-def disc formats will be featured in Wal-Mart's next "secret sale" on Friday, but those hoping for price cuts akin to last month's $99 HD DVD player will be disappointed. Instead, the word of the day appears to be "value-add," with the discount retailer offering up different freebies with purchase of hardware on both sides of the high-def format war." DETAILS BELOW
New Wal-Mart "Secret Sale" Details Confirmed (http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/news/show/High-Def_Retailing/Wal-Mart/PlayStation_3/Toshiba/New_Wal-Mart_Secret_Sale_Details_Confirmed/1244)
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I read theaterworks has the A35 for sale...
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Helloo, I'm interested also in group buy, pls, pm me the deatils also, thanks..( :) toshiba A30 or A35)
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I read theaterworks has the A35 for sale...
How much is it at sir - would you know? :)
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How much is it at sir - would you know? :)
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=60748.msg759158#msg759158
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HD A3 up for grabs. Its arriving in 6-8 weeks.
I have an extra unit...PM me if interested. This includes 300 and Bourne Supremacy. I got 2 units...keeping one and disposing of one unit
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accepting reservations now... (prices subject to change [could get lower] when units arrive...) ETA FEB.15 or earlier
all units comes with 300 and bourne identity.. units are sealed and guaranteed bnew in box.
2 units Toshiba HD A3 - 14k
1. crisg0219
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2 units Toshiba HD A30 - 18k
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reserve now via pm.. (dont want to clutter this thread)
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May HD Marketplace forum na pala dito... :o :o :o
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sorry...bawal ba? kung bawal, tanggalin ko post ko asap... :-\
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update lang...
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units have arrived.. for those who are interested.. just pm me for price...or text me...
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We just got A-30 fot only $199.00 plus 7 HD DVDs.
Kahit ipadoor to door pa yun I guess mas makakamura (45$ for 20 x 20" box).
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saan itong 199 dollars na hd dvd a3 ng toshiba? Ito ung 1080i lang diba?
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saan itong 199 dollars na hd dvd a3 ng toshiba? Ito ung 1080i lang diba?
A3 - 1080i - $ 149.00
A30 - 1080p - $ 199.00
A35 - 1080p w/ audio decoders - 299.00
Bestbuy, circuitcity, frys, etc.
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A-35 Amazon price $226
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tempting price but is it true that hd dvd is dying? The last time i check transformers the movie was their last big movie release. Ok pa kaya bumili nito. Considering that i don't have region 1 sd dvd's?
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tempting price but is it true that hd dvd is dying?
its being murdered at this moment, ;D ;D
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its being murdered at this moment, ;D ;D
...and got its back stabbed too. :-X
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Wait, i thought HD DVD will emerge as the winner since the porn industry support the format?
Please enlighten.
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why buy for porn when you can dl it ;D
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Wait, i thought HD DVD will emerge as the winner since the porn industry support the format?
Please enlighten.
Hehe..Not enough hot actresses? ;D
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tempting price but is it true that hd dvd is dying? The last time i check transformers the movie was their last big movie release. Ok pa kaya bumili nito. Considering that i don't have region 1 sd dvd's?
First, I have to say there is nobody that can make that decision but you. If it was me I will look at several factors before buying.
1. Nobody knows when hddvd will die, but it will probably be within the year. Depends now on toshiba, universal and paramount.
2. Check out the sale right now in amazon and see how many exclusive movies you like, Prices are at 14.95, 19.99. They also have buy 2 take 3 now, but I think mostly warner, which you can find in bluray. They have the matrix set, Batman Begins, and I think a few universals like Mummy (Im not sure) If you cant wait for Batman Begins and matrix to come out in bluray..Its up to you na. Also check out their new releases, which is not much but there are some quality ones.
3. For all the titles, when will they come out on bluray is the big question. Also when they come out, Do you think the prices will be at 14.95 and 19.99. I don't think so unless of course they have a sale like buy one get one, Buy 2 take 3, 50% off etc etc. Recently, I just wait for these sale bec buying movies at regular prices has been costing me an arm and a leg na..
4. A negative factor for you is you dont have region 1 dvds.
5. When you convert the prices of these toshibas they are as cheap as those dvd upconverters here, Pioneer 600, Sony N77, all 1080p upconverters. Yun lang these are all regions unlike the toshibas . However, You can enjoy hidef.
6. The risk is your player conking out in the future and you cant find any replacement.
These are the factors you have to consider. I might have left some out but these are the ones that come to my mind. If it was me and from the list I like 20 to 30 movies I would go for it. Nobody knows when these will come out in bluray. Im a person that cant wait. I just love movies. You might regret it in the future, thats the risk you've taken for buying hddvd at this time. Basta dont blame me if you buy a unit ;D
Good luck
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Actually, i don't like much of the hd dvd exclusives so far. My only concern is that Transformers isn't coming to blu ray which is one of the movies i can't not have in hd format. i have my ps3 that can upscale my r3 movies though
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Good points from Moks007. nukee, if Transformers HD DVD is the only movie you want then perhaps it's not worthwhile to get a HD DVD player. :)
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Nukee if you only want 1 title for any particular HD format, just download it while waiting for the release of your chosen format. I just don't know how many days it will take you to download a 7GB file in mkv container. I don't have to mention it's illegal but for one title...well.
But if money is not an object, what's $200 and a selection of 400 titles?
HD DVD will most likely not win the high def war because studios and the porn industry "supot" it.
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http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=toshcq1.jpg
sali ako sa group buy Tosh A35 12k plus sweet :)
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Where can i download it. Actually its not the money that is the issue. Actually, its super cheap. But its like spending money on something that you will hardly use after a few weeks of owning at and will die out soon? It's like buying goldfish.
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Actually, i don't like much of the hd dvd exclusives so far. My only concern is that Transformers isn't coming to blu ray which is one of the movies i can't not have in hd format. i have my ps3 that can upscale my r3 movies though
First Im not telling or forcing you to buy a hddvd player. But it looks like your mind is already made up beforehand (Not judging you of course). ( No offense intended) But paramount and universal have so many great movies. To just like or must own lang transformers is ??? to me...They have the bourne series, mission impossible series, Face off, untouchables, trading places, Shooter, Italian job, The mummy, Fast and the furious, top gun, notting hill, Heroes, Star trek, comedies from will ferrell and the actor in knocked up. Jack ryan series (supposedly to be releasing in march) and many more. Of course people have diff taste in movies but to me the ones I listed are awesome to me. I think most are avoiding hddvd bec its near death, but its not the movies they offer. Just my opinion.
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HD DVD: Time to quit?
Opinion - The HD DVD camp suffered two major blows today and no matter you look at it, begins to look like the certain loser of the high-def format war. HD DVD better has a secret weapon that it can aim at Blu-ray now. Otherwise Toshiba can only hope for a miracle or actually admit defeat. But it is not only Toshiba that loses: A victory of Blu-ray may actually be much more painful for Microsoft.
If you own a HD DVD player and hoped that the format will win in the end, I can feel your pain. I am among those people who purchased such a player, although for different reasons than your typical HD customer: My player was actually cheaper than an upscaling DVD player, I got seven free HD DVD movies and I knew that even if the format doesn’t win in the end, I still can use it as a DVD player. I am still happy with that decision, but if I have to say that the 35-second startup time of the player and the loud fan noise (there’s a Pentium 4 processor inside) is annoying.
If you have spent $400 or more on a HD DVD player, you may be upset about the HD news recently hitting the web. But then, you’ll also have to admit that you should have waited with the purchase and if you are upset that those $400 and perhaps several hundred dollars more (because you obviously purchased HD DVD movies) are thrown out the window, you have to realize that couldn’t afford this HD DVD player in the first place. Part of being an early adopter means that you can swallow such a loss and you shouldn’t complain about it.
No one right in his mind (and a budget) would have bought an HD DVD player within the past few weeks after the Blu-ray camp began scoring one success after another. Interestingly, if you look at it, the pendulum started moving towards Blu-ray only two months ago. Right before CES 2008, Warner Home Video announced that it would begin backing Blu-ray exclusively (even if HD DVD support was a bit extended afterwards). This announcement sent a shockwave through the industry and was widely seen as a sign that the movie industry would begin focusing on Blu-ray. Following the announcement, Blu-ray player sales skyrocketed, HD DVD player sales plummeted and we heard more movie studios and retailers saying they would move towards Blu-ray. In late January, Gartner said that it expects Blu-ray to be winning the format war.
It is interesting to note that we are under embargo on some of these announcements, as they are planned to be made at the end of Q1 or in Q2. Given the situation, we can say that a handful of smaller movie studios told us that they would be supporting Blu-ray exclusively, but decided to hold back such an announcement as they were sitting on a pile of HD DVDs they still wanted to get rid of. Plus, remember there’s quite some marketing money floating around which no one wants to lose. As reported earlier, industry sources told us that Chicago retailer Grant’s Appliances had no intentions of supporting HD DVD anymore and another source told us that Blockbuster is also focusing on Blu-ray (some stores are still stocking HD DVDs at this time).
Today may actually have been the most critical day in the high-def battle yet. Netflix dropped HD DVD and Best Buy now sides with Blu-ray as well. It’s clear that there is still support for HD DVD out there, but the walls are crumbling and the HD DVD camp should reveal their last ace soon, if they have one.
If you look at the past 20 months, the HD DVD camp always has fought this battle highlighting the lower price of HD DVD players. Not really a bad idea considering the fact that Toshiba was out with players months before the first (Samsung) Blu-ray player became available, which was offered for the ridiculous price of $999 initially. However, we have to recognize that even this lower price point was much too high even for the enthusiasts among consumers. So it probably did not really matter whether such a player was priced at $600 or $1000. Turns out that Sony in fact may have won the war with what many of us considered a failure – the Playstation 3.
Part 2 Why video gamers are critical for HD success (http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/36017/128/1/1/)
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/36017/128/
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Where can i download it. Actually its not the money that is the issue. Actually, its super cheap. But its like spending money on something that you will hardly use after a few weeks of owning at and will die out soon? It's like buying goldfish.
Bro, I have more than 150 titles downloaded and about 30 originals and I don't have any idea how to watch them all and when I'll finish watching them all. I'm positive many members with 300 plus titles in their collection spend more time staring at their shelves than watching. Ok money is no object for you so I suppose you can afford to buy 150-400 original disks instead. So do you think you can watch that much title in a few weeks or within the short lifespan of a goldfish? What is your average rate of viewing BD films at the moment?
I would have to agree with Moks-san. You sound as if you have already made up your mind so what's the point of considering...and if it's really 1 title you want among the 400 available title, it's definitely not worth it. Just hope that Transformers gets released in BD within a year.
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hindi na yata mawawala ang HD DVD Player sa halaga lang ng 6 K pesos ewan ko na lang but i sure mawawala pa sa market ang blu ray player kung hindi nila ibaba ang price
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Actually, i didn't say that money is no object to. That is false. Because even if your a billionaire. Money is still an object to you. Otherwise, you won't get rich if you keep on spending money on things you think you need but actually don't.
To be honest, i'm not a home theater or dvd movie buff. Probably my average bd watching is around 3 to 4 times a year. Initially, when i saw the prices of the hd dvd players i was so into buying it already that i contacted my relative from the states. But a few minutes after reading here. I've learned that hd dvd is dying. Then lies the problem of buying something that is dying and which i can only use as a hd dvd player as i really don't have r1 dvd's unless this can read pirated discs which i doubt. So to me, everything changed that is why i'am having second thoughts which i asked for your guys opinion.
I'am not arguing with what you are saying, i'm just gathering facts and listen and making my own decision about whether to get a player or not. If it can be used as a playe for me, then my 6t plus is worth it. But i can't use it. That is why maybe i'm still convincing myself.
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Based on the info that you just gave, only a hardcore fanatic senseless inconsiderate HD DVD fanboi would advise you to purchase an HD DVD player.
And if you only watch BD for 3 to 4 times a year, then you should have no problem waiting for Transformers' release in BD. I might even give you a dl'd copy for free in June pagbakasyon ko.
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cge please give me a free copy na lang. hehehehehe. Nway, i don't mind waiting pero before kasi they said the Transformers isn't coming to bluray that is why i considered buying an hd dvd player. Thanks for the offer of the download.
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so you have already purchased it? if you have, then you might as well buy all the hd dvd titles you want now. para sulit naman ang 6k mo.
if you havent paid yet or your relative hasnt yet, the cancel it... may ps3 ka naman for BD viewing right?
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I didn't buy it. I do have the ps3 for blu-ray viewing. I'm just hoping that if ever hd dvd dies. they will release transformers in bd.
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thats a sure thing. no need to worry... just a question of how long.
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Siguro more sooner than later, since rumoured na they were already stocked sa warehouse until Toshiba bribed Paramount to jump on the wrong side of the fence...