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Home Theater => Displays => Flat Panels => Topic started by: tambutsoo on Sep 19, 2006 at 10:25 PM
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Is Hitachi 42PD8900TA available here Phil.? How much?
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Is Hitachi 42PD8900TA available here Phil.? How much?
http://www.hardwarezone.com/news/view.php?id=5005&cid=6
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i think so..nakita ko na sa newspaper ad ito and its around 165k cash price :) mura na sya
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:) tnx
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There's also a stripped down version, the 42PD8500 (successor of the discontinued 42PD380TA ED plasma panel). Same HD ALiS plasma panel as the 8900 (1024x1024), 2-tuner PIP, dual HDMI. It doesn't have the memory card slot, lower contrast ratio (3k:1), and non-motorized desk stand.
I think this can be had for about P135k. A really good deal, IMHO.
pambili na lang ang problema... :'(
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I am not really sure if this is the same model being sold at the Image Store, Harrison Plaza; but seems to be a good buy at 99K. ;)
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There's also a stripped down version, the 42PD8500 (successor of the discontinued 42PD380TA ED plasma panel). Same HD ALiS plasma panel as the 8900 (1024x1024), 2-tuner PIP, dual HDMI. It doesn't have the memory card slot, lower contrast ratio (3k:1), and non-motorized desk stand.
I think this can be had for about P135k. A really good deal, IMHO.
pambili na lang ang problema... :'(
yup 130k sya cash price..nagsisi nga ako coz i bought the pd8800ta..tapos lumabas yung 8500 after a few months..oh well..
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I am not really sure if this is the same model being sold at the Image Store, Harrison Plaza; but seems to be a good buy at 99K. ;)
the one they are selling in harrison plaza at 99k is hitachi 42pd380ta
is this any good?
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i saw another plasma 42 at the same price 99k. its a toshiba.
how does toshiba or hitachi compare? im leaning to get the toshiba within this week unless of course i hear a lot of negative issues on this mfg.
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i saw another plasma 42 at the same price 99k. its a toshiba.
how does toshiba or hitachi compare? im leaning to get the toshiba within this week unless of course i hear a lot of negative issues on this mfg.
saw that also, medyo tempting nga sya considering na plasma na 42nch pa, i wonder kung bakit mababa ang selling nila dito? ??? anyway, toshiba naman sya eh kaya ok lang cguro.
any comment po mga owners of toshiba plasma 42.
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Hitachi 42PD8900TA ---- How much na ito today? Bumaba ang price ?
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We couldn't help but fall in love with the screen; even before we switched it on. And after we did, there was no change in the feeling. The Hitachi 42PD8900TA is a class above the rest. By pushing the pixels from 1024 to 1080, Hitachi is all set to keep it a cut above the rest, announcing it as the 'World's first HD 1080 42V Plasma'. Armed with ALiS (Alternative Lighting of Surfaces), this panel is big in size and rich in features and offers an ultimate optimal viewing pleasure.
http://www.livingdigitalindia.com/content/Reviewed/2006/106102006.asp
Never mind the ongoing finalization of differing HD standards and the divided support from a contingent MNCs. The HD revolution that promises everyone spectacular visuals is still sometime away from taking the centre stage in your living room - but that is not to say you should continue freezing your wallet in replacing that flickering, fish-bowl shaped visual equipment you once proudly prized as your television set.
With movies already finding their way onto both HD-DVD and Blu-ray formats, the timeliness of hopping onboard the high-definition bandwagon has never been more current. Already, we have familiar household names throwing ever bigger flat panels at us to tempt us into parting with our savings in exchange for the ultimate optimal viewing pleasure. One such name is Hitachi, a company who has so far been a lonely combatant in its push of its own ALiS technology that organizes pixels in a configuration that's different from all her competitors. Recently, they have introduced the Hitachi 42PD8900TA, a 42-inch plasma TV that they coined as the “World’s First HD1080 42V Plasma TV".
http://www.hardwarezone.com.au/firstlooks/view.php?cid=6&id=5005
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I decided to get Hitachi 42PD8900TA, 160000 12 months :) Awesome picture quality :)
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@Ptoys
What store sir?
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@Ptoys
What store sir?
anson pasay road.
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tnx
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Sir Ptoys, please post your observations on your Hitachi 42PD.
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Hi guys, first time to post here sa forum. I got my Hitachi 42PD8900TA from Listening Room Megamall for 145,000 last December. So far, I am very very satisfied with the performance especially the double tuner. I can watch other programs while the other is in commercial break. Then get back again after the break. Don't have to miss anything. :) Picture quality is also very good. The SD card reader is also useful. Overall, it's a real value for moeny. Thanks.
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hi is the 42PD8900TA an ALIS panel? do you notice any flickering issue as mentioned in other forums?
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hi is the 42PD8900TA an ALIS panel? do you notice any flickering issue as mentioned in other forums?
Yes it's an ALIS panel. No flickering noticed so far.
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thats good to hear, i often read that from other forums i visit, give us more update in the future please, happy viewing on your set :)
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thats good to hear, i often read that from other forums i visit, give us more update in the future please, happy viewing on your set :)
thanks db10. I will keep you posted on my observations of my 42PD8900TA. So far so good. Are you planning on getting one? :)
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just keeping tabs with the market and users, :) ;)
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any other pd8900ta users who care to give their observations/comments on this unit? cnet asia has some mixed reviews on it.
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Guys, I just noticed last night while watching Bourne Identity that there was indeed flickering on my Hitachi panel. The flickering occurs on dark scenes. Very strange. Care to shed some light into this matter? TIA. :)
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Our problem in the Philippines is that the plasma owners here are so few and far between that it's hard to find someone with an answer, not even in this forum. As a result, our only option is to browse foreign forums.
I first read about the Hitachi plasma flicker here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=715147 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=715147)
As far as I understand it, it's not a fast flicker as in CRTs, but a contrast fluctuation.
If it's a contrast fluctuation, the logical cause is most probably a software issue. There's some software problem that causes the picture's contrast to fluctuate depending on the picture displayed.
If the software problem is being caused by the TV's picture enhancements, try turning off all enhancements. Those things seem to do more harm than good.
If unsuccessful, only a firmware update can solve the problem.
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The Australian DTV forum is presently offline. I think the site was attacked by hackers today. I'll post a link as soon as they're on.
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Guys, I just noticed last night while watching Bourne Identity that there was indeed flickering on my Hitachi panel. The flickering occurs on dark scenes. Very strange. Care to shed some light into this matter? TIA. :)
I also noticed this contrast fluctuation with my 42PD8500TA. First when I watched Jarhead. It usually happens with dark scenes with with some bright parts. But it is not true for all movies I've watched so far. It seems that it depends on the source too.
What I did, as what I have read at AVSForums, is to set the Black Level Enhancement to LOW, turn OFF Luminance Manager. Set contrast at or little lower the middle of scale.
With HDMI, this "flickering" is minimized or eliminated depending on the movie. I watched Jarhead again, the movie where I first noticed this "flickering", and watched the scenes where the I noticed it, and I don't see the flicker anymore.
With HDMI connection, Black Level Enhancement is set to OFF. Contrast setting is still at Mid or a little lower than Mid. Luminance Manager is still OFF.
Another movie that I noticed this is with Mirrormask. The scenes are a mix of bright, shining/shimmering effects, plus dark parts. Flickering is less with HDMI than with Component connection.
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As promised:
http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=30831 (http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=30831)
Hitachi Australia seems to have a fix for the 8800 via service menu. Page 6 of the linked DTV Forum thread says:
Hey everyone,
Hitachi service agent - Probe - came out tonight and fixed the problem.
All the guy did was get into the service menu (you can find out how to do this from other posts in the forum) and altered service item number 275. The value was 0 and this was changed to 1.
That simple. Seems to have resolved the issue from the brief 5 mins of testing I did afterwards.
Just letting you all know in case some of you who are more adventurous wish to get in and do the change yourself.
Whoever has the service manual can perhaps tell us all what option 275 is?
I have a feeling that a service menu adjustment is the correct solution.
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As promised:
http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=30831 (http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=30831)
Hitachi Australia seems to have a fix for the 8800 via service menu. Page 6 of the linked DTV Forum thread says:
Hey everyone,
Hitachi service agent - Probe - came out tonight and fixed the problem.
All the guy did was get into the service menu (you can find out how to do this from other posts in the forum) and altered service item number 275. The value was 0 and this was changed to 1.
That simple. Seems to have resolved the issue from the brief 5 mins of testing I did afterwards.
Just letting you all know in case some of you who are more adventurous wish to get in and do the change yourself.
Whoever has the service manual can perhaps tell us all what option 275 is?
I have a feeling that a service menu adjustment is the correct solution.
Nakakatakot ;D Baka magkamali, patay warranty.
Try ko nga i-communicate sa Hitachi Philippines etong issue na ito.
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Remember, the service menu fix they're discussing is for 8800 model. Baka iba ang numbers para sa model mo. Dapat yung may hawak ng warranty ang gagawa, either Hitachi Phil. for authorized models, or yung retailer for the parallel imports.
Delikado talaga. Kahit nga authorized technician, puwede pa rin pumalpak. At least, alam natin na tama ang solution sa DTV Forum. Sa AVS Forum, hindi yata umepek ang firmware upgrade fix nila.
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Remember, the service menu fix they're discussing is for 8800 model. Baka iba ang numbers para sa model mo. Dapat yung may hawak ng warranty ang gagawa, either Hitachi Phil. for authorized models, or yung retailer for the parallel imports.
Delikado talaga. Kahit nga authorized technician, puwede pa rin pumalpak. At least, alam natin na tama ang solution sa DTV Forum. Sa AVS Forum, hindi yata umepek ang firmware upgrade fix nila.
Mukhang mixed results din pati firmware upgrade.
Try ko nga kausapin yong salesman ng Hitachi na pinagkunan ko at patignan ko nga.
Pero di naman na annoying para sa akin dahil di naman lahat ng movie kita yong concern. Saka kung mayroon man, minimal na since nag-HDMI connection gamit ko. Pero sana may fix sila para solid ang performance.
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Digital Tuner na ba ito?
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Guys, I just noticed last night while watching Bourne Identity that there was indeed flickering on my Hitachi panel. The flickering occurs on dark scenes. Very strange. Care to shed some light into this matter? TIA. :)
I just called Hitachi Service Center (412-4755), and asked about this flicker issue. They said they haven't got any complaints about this issue. They said they'll call Hitachi main to inquire about this.
I encourage the Hitachi owners who have experienced this "flickering" to also call them and inform them of this issue. So that they'll be aware of it and not just dismiss it as an isolated case.
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Guys how about 42PD9800TA model of hitachi or the new 50PD9800TA? Does it have the same flicker issues mentioned in this thread? I appreciate all inputs before I pull the trigger on the 50-incher. Thanks
The Cnet review on this model was superb though - giving it the editor's choice award.
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I just called Hitachi Service Center (412-4755), and asked about this flicker issue. They said they haven't got any complaints about this issue. They said they'll call Hitachi main to inquire about this.
I encourage the Hitachi owners who have experienced this "flickering" to also call them and inform them of this issue. So that they'll be aware of it and not just dismiss it as an isolated case.
They'd better know about it. It's discussed on the 3 biggest English-speaking forums (AVS Forum, AV Forums and DTV Forum), so they should be aware of the market situation. There are already 2 pinoydvd members who have noticed the problem.
Why not send them an email with a link to the 4 forums. Also, inform them that Hitachi Australia already has a service menu fix.
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They'd better know about it. It's discussed on the 3 biggest English-speaking forums (AVS Forum, AV Forums and DTV Forum), so they should be aware of the market situation. There are already 2 pinoydvd members who have noticed the problem.
Why not send them an email with a link to the 4 forums. Also, inform them that Hitachi Australia already has a service menu fix.
I'm starting to doubt the customer service quality of Hitachi here. The technician that I talked to said that he will call me back upon consulting this issue with Hitachi's main. But I have to call them back for their feedback. Just called them and the technician was said to be out on home service. The lady on the customer service doesn't even know what was my complaint before, which means they haven't recorded it, which means they have not taken my concern seriously.
I'm crossing my fingers, I hope I'm wrong with my perception of their service quality. I'll wait again for the call of the technician.
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A technician from Hitachi visited me last Saturday to see what was the flickering issue that I raised. Unfortunately the flickering did not show up. Exactly what I'm afraid about when I raised the complaint. If there were, they're so subtle that if you have not seen it before, you wont notice it. Some of the instances that I pointed out is considered by the technician as just because of the shift in the lightings from the scene.
He said that it could be my settings are too low. We even had a small argument on how to set, because I said that I based my settings on the THX Optimizer and also on how movies looked like.
He may think I don't know what I was talking about and was just paranoid. ;D
I just shared to him the site of AVS forums so he can read about what I was talking about.
If other owners of Hitachi here can also raise this issue if they have it, maybe they'll believe it.
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if you can, try to catch it on photo or video, or try to remember what scene of a particular dvd movie displays the flickering.
try the first scene of JURASSIC III, when the chute is near the island with the mountains in the background and see if you can notice flickering on the parachute's ropes as it glides.
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A technician from Hitachi visited me last Saturday to see what was the flickering issue that I raised. Unfortunately the flickering did not show up. Exactly what I'm afraid about when I raised the complaint. If there were, they're so subtle that if you have not seen it before, you wont notice it. Some of the instances that I pointed out is considered by the technician as just because of the shift in the lightings from the scene.
He said that it could be my settings are too low. We even had a small argument on how to set, because I said that I based my settings on the THX Optimizer and also on how movies looked like.
He may think I don't know what I was talking about and was just paranoid. ;D
I just shared to him the site of AVS forums so he can read about what I was talking about.
If other owners of Hitachi here can also raise this issue if they have it, maybe they'll believe it.
Well, at least may dumating na technician. Unfortunately, he did not seem to know anything about the flicker issue.
In your post #34 above, you said that they will consult this issue with "Hitachi's main". What I'd like to know is whether or not they did in fact consult it, and if they did, the outcome of the consultation.
Are they or are they not aware of the flicker issue? Have they ever heard of the firmware update (even if the same appears to be ineffective)? Are they or are they not aware of the service menu fix (which seems to have solved the problem in the Australian forum)?
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Well, at least may dumating na technician. Unfortunately, he did not seem to know anything about the flicker issue.
In your post #34 above, you said that they will consult this issue with "Hitachi's main". What I'd like to know is whether or not they did in fact consult it, and if they did, the outcome of the consultation.
Are they or are they not aware of the flicker issue? Have they ever heard of the firmware update (even if the same appears to be ineffective)? Are they or are they not aware of the service menu fix (which seems to have solved the problem in the Australian forum)?
At least nga dumating, mas maaga pa sa usapan namin.
He consulted Hitachi Singapore daw. Wala daw flickering issue sa Asia. I also mentioned about the firmware and service menu fix. He even asked me what I meant by firmware. ;D They really don't know about it.
Sana may iba pang mag-complain, to make them aware of the extent of this issue.
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He even asked me what I meant by firmware. ;D
I really hate it when somebody puts it that way. Instead of asking, "What do you mean by firmware", he should have candidly asked, "What is a firmware", para mas honest ang dating ;D .
Sana may iba pang mag-complain, to make them aware of the extent of this issue.
As far as I know, there are only you and axn8882003 in this forum who have noticed the problem. Dapat magreklamo din siya. Munskie has a new Hitachi plasma 42PD9500TA, I'm waiting for him to say whether the flicker is present on his panel or not.
In the meantime, maybe you can email Hitachi Australia and request them to forward the service menu settings to Hitachi Philippines. Let's see what happens.
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Guys, I just called Hitachi and talked to a guy named Jas. He said that the flickering is "normal". "Para lumiwanag ang mga dark scenes." ??? >:( Diba kaya nga dark scenes, kasi kelangan "dark".
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Now that confirms it ... Confirmed na wala ka na talagang pag-asa sa Hitachi Philippines kung may reklamo ka sa flickering.
Huwag nilang sabihing walang problema, since this is a known issue. At huwag nilang sabihin na maarte lang tayo. Kaya nga tayo bumili ng plasma dahil maarte tayo, e. Pasalamat pa sila dahil kung walang maarte, e di wala na sigurong bumili ng plasma ::).
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Guys, I just called Hitachi and talked to a guy named Jas. He said that the flickering is "normal". "Para lumiwanag ang mga dark scenes." ??? >:( Diba kaya nga dark scenes, kasi kelangan "dark".
Nakakatawa ;D; Nakakainis >:(.
I really really doubt their knowledge about their technology, and their ability to troubleshoot and correct problems that may be experienced by their consumers.
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In the meantime, maybe you can email Hitachi Australia and request them to forward the service menu settings to Hitachi Philippines. Let's see what happens.
Good suggestion Atty. I think I'll do this. I just got the email of Hitachi's service provider this morning. It will be easy to look for Australia's.
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Good suggestion Atty. I think I'll do this. I just got the email of Hitachi's service provider this morning. It will be easy to look for Australia's.
Hi, might as well post the email address of Hitachi Australia here. I am going to shoot them an email too. Thanks.
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Ninerbiyos naman ako sa yo... I thought you were going to shoot them all at Hitachi... shoot them an email pala... ;D
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atty kung puede lang naunahan ko na si jvm nung november 06 pa, pero magtitira ako ng isa para 'shoot' ni jvm, kita na lang kami sa munti ;D
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atty kung puede lang naunahan ko na si jvm nung november 06 pa, pero magtitira ako ng isa para 'shoot' ni jvm, kita na lang kami sa munti ;D
Gamitan natin ng plasma ray gun ;D
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plasma ray bazooka!!! ;D
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Ninerbiyos naman ako sa yo... I thought you were going to shoot them all at Hitachi... shoot them an email pala... ;D
;D ;D ;D
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Guys have you seen the 50PD9800TA plasma from Hitachi? I hooked it up on cable TV (no booster) and changed the cheap power cord to aftermarket one and the result was very good. You should check this model out.
This wkend I plan to audition a DVD player with HDMI. No affiliation with hitachi whatsoever. Just one happy camper.
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9800 is essentially the 9500 model but with motorized swivel and memory card reader.... :) :) might save you some bucks if you dont care about those features...
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9800 is essentially the 9500 model but with motorized swivel and memory card reader.... :) :) might save you some bucks if you dont care about those features...
Actually I think only the 9500 has the 2-tuner PIP feature, which makes it considerably more expensive. Unlike last years series where both the 8500 and the 8800 had the 2-tuner PIP. I may be wrong though.
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Actually I think only the 9500 has the 2-tuner PIP feature, which makes it considerably more expensive. Unlike last years series where both the 8500 and the 8800 had the 2-tuner PIP. I may be wrong though.
paolo im sure you mean the 9800 has the features you mention ;) i think you skipped coffee this morning ;D
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I watched The Last Samurai last night and boy, it was a flicker frenzy movie. :( Call me O.C. but it is really annoying.
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I watched The Last Samurai last night and boy, it was a flicker frenzy movie. :( Call me O.C. but it is really annoying.
Ask them to visit you. Call them again. I hope they'll see it on your set. Just be patient, because you might disagree on the technician's assessment. What matters will be for them to see it for themselves.
Ako kinulit ko sila para puntahan nila. Kaya lang di masyado naging obvious noong pumunta sila >:(.
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I was also advised by their technician to turn off the Black Enhancement feature to reduce the "flickering".
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paolo im sure you mean the 9800 has the features you mention ;) i think you skipped coffee this morning ;D
My bad... :-[
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I was also advised by their technician to turn off the Black Enhancement feature to reduce the "flickering".
did doing so help reduce or eliminate the flickering?
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did doing so help reduce or eliminate the flickering?
It somehow reduced it.
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well i hope they finally get a permanent fix on this soon, nothing like having peace of mind while trying to relax watching on your tv (which is the reason you bought it on the first place)
the least service/customer care people could do is to be pleasant and patient with our questions if they cant provide an immediate solution, and not being dismissive and claim to be 'unaware' ( they equate this word with innocence not ignorance) of the problem
best of luck jvm
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He consulted Hitachi Singapore daw. Wala daw flickering issue sa Asia.
Here are links to 2 Singaporean forums:
http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=42096.90
http://forums.hardwarezone.com/showthread.php?t=1516863
Flickering on Hitachi 42PD9500, in Singapore, in Asia.
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Here are links to 2 Singaporean forums:
http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=42096.90
http://forums.hardwarezone.com/showthread.php?t=1516863
Flickering on Hitachi 42PD9500, in Singapore, in Asia.
I just sent the links to the Customer Service of Hitachi Phils.