the pioneer plasma offers excellent picture quality and will definitely make one happy in various viewing applications. it is arguably one of the best plasma tvs in the market. you can go to cnet.asia.com for reviews. my only con about this product is the price.
110t is a very good price :o, gusto ko sumama ang loob with the price drop :'( but considering the joy it brings me and my wife, ok lang kasi i got it when it was the best in the field and it hasnt let me down, until now it surprises me with its clarity specially when 576p ang disc upconverted to 1080i ::)! wow! the more you feed it with good copies the more it shines...kaya nga im saving for a HD player para maximized ang full potential nya...tapos na ako sa question ng lcd-vs-plasma...BD-vs-HDDVD na ang dilemna ko >:(
consider mo din suggestion ni mac, when i bought the 42 i thought malaki na sya, but after a week gusto ko na ng 50 kaya lang over na ako sa budget at hindi na talaga mag fit sa built-in entertainment cabinet ko >:( the thing is, everytime you increase the size, you want the next bigger size or the next! hay buhay walang kaligayahan!
DB10, go format neutral na like me. Sulit sa pioneer 427 ko. My wife and I enjoys it talaga. Di ako nagsisisi na nagbayad ng malaking halaga. Worth it talaga.
BTW kamusta pala ung pioneer kapag sa gaming na? Addict kasi ako sa games eh kaya cguradong lagi kong nilalaro ung ps3 and xbox 360 ko dito. Kamusta ung graphics and gameplay ? Thanks... =)
kaso lang the new KURO model might be expensive... =( Around 160 or 190 cguro? Kasi ung dating price range ng binibili ko is around 160 and 190 before, clearance or liquidation sale lang kaya around 110K nalang ngayon.
How much ba ung panasonic na 50 inch? papost naman ng pic =)
I suggest also you audition the PV700 ay naku was there last sunday and have seen the PV700 side by side with other models and and ganda ng PV700. All i can say is "if only" if only nakita ko itong model na ito before, if only hindi nasabay sa audio upgrade ko, if only i can sell my 6 mths old Plasma, if only di magagalit wife ko kapag bibili ulit ako nito. Never ending if only ;D ;D ;D
Its a good time to buy the 427 kasi the new models (Kuro) are coming out. IMO, the 427 has noticeably better PQ than the Panasonic 42PV70 but Php 50,000 better? Definitely not. If Php 20,000 lang ang difference siguro I'll think about it. But I'll definitely choose the 427 over the 42PV700 assuming they are priced equally.
I've seen the Kuro 428 in action. I wasn't blown away but then its never as simple as that. You really have to do a side by side comparo to see the differences. I saw the 42PV70 side by side with the 1080p 42PY70 and in a blind test, I honestly can say that I would've chosen the PV70.
Its a good time to buy the 427 kasi the new models (Kuro) are coming out. IMO, the 427 has noticeably better PQ than the Panasonic 42PV70 but Php 50,000 better? Definitely not. If Php 20,000 lang ang difference siguro I'll think about it. But I'll definitely choose the 427 over the 42PV700 assuming they are priced equally.
I've seen the Kuro 428 in action. I wasn't blown away but then its never as simple as that. You really have to do a side by side comparo to see the differences. I saw the 42PV70 side by side with the 1080p 42PY70 and in a blind test, I honestly can say that I would've chosen the PV70.
Hello lithium
I actually did a side by side with a 427, a pv70 and a pv700 very recently. Allow me to disagree that the 427 has noticeable better pq than the pv70. I found it the other way around but not by much. As for the pv700, way more impressive. But then again, this is just me (my eyes, rather).
Its a good time to buy the 427 kasi the new models (Kuro) are coming out. IMO, the 427 has noticeably better PQ than the Panasonic 42PV70 but Php 50,000 better? Definitely not. If Php 20,000 lang ang difference siguro I'll think about it. But I'll definitely choose the 427 over the 42PV700 assuming they are priced equally.
I've seen the Kuro 428 in action. I wasn't blown away but then its never as simple as that. You really have to do a side by side comparo to see the differences. I saw the 42PV70 side by side with the 1080p 42PY70 and in a blind test, I honestly can say that I would've chosen the PV70.
Hello lithium
I actually did a side by side with a 427, a pv70 and a pv700 very recently. Allow me to disagree that the 427 has noticeable better pq than the pv70. I found it the other way around but not by much. As for the pv700, way more impressive. But then again, this is just me (my eyes, rather).
Just went to theaterworks yesterday, naguluhan lang ako nong pinakita ni sir jeff ung panasonic tvs haha. Very sure na kasi ako before sa pioneer tpos ung pinakita ung mga panasonic napadalawang isip ako hehe.
Right now iniisip ko din choice ung 50 inch ng panasonic kasi same price din sya nong pioneer and parang maganda syang tignan na wallmounted hehe. And katulad nong sinagest nong isang member dito na tlagang value for the money sya kasi ang laki ng 8 inches na difference.
Post ako ng mga pic mamaya sa visit ko sa theaterworks and the pics of the tv hehe
Just went to theaterworks yesterday, naguluhan lang ako nong pinakita ni sir jeff ung panasonic tvs haha. Very sure na kasi ako before sa pioneer tpos ung pinakita ung mga panasonic napadalawang isip ako hehe.
Right now iniisip ko din choice ung 50 inch ng panasonic kasi same price din sya nong pioneer and parang maganda syang tignan na wallmounted hehe. And katulad nong sinagest nong isang member dito na tlagang value for the money sya kasi ang laki ng 8 inches na difference.
Good for you. It's a big expense, so it's best to visit a good shop. Sir Jeff's shop is very popular here.
Yes, malaking difference talaga ang 8 inches. Sa umpisa parang ang laki na ang 42"; after some time, parang maliit pa pala ... :D But the advantage is not just a bigger size, actually.
Here's another reason why I recommend a 50 incher:
In appliance stores, I've observed 42" and 50" Vieras side by side at the same viewing distance using a single video source (standard DVD), and the result is consistent --- the picture quality on the 50" panel is always slightly better.
No, I don't think it's because the 50" has a higher native resolution. I think it's because the 50" panel is doing a better job of scaling the image.
The PV4270 and 42PV700, like most other 42" plasmas, have a native resolution of 1024x768. The 1024x768 standard is also called "XGA" (Extended Graphic Array), a standard developed for computer monitors.
Note that a 1024x768 resolution is equivalent to a 4x3 ratio. How do they fit that resolution on a 16x9 TV? They use rectangular pixels instead of square ones.
The 50PV70 and 50PV700, like most other 50" plasmas, have a native resolution of 1366x768. Note that this resolution is almost equivalent to a 16x9 ratio.
On a 16x9 panel, it's probably easier to scale images on square pixels rather than on rectangular ones because less calculations are required from the panel's scaling software.
I think you have a point, kasi less pixelized ung mga images sa 50 inch na tv, when i did a side by side comparison nong pioneer and the panasonic almost same picture quality ung black levels lang tlga nag pinagkaiba ng pioneer...
hay... ano kaya? hehe
btw ano pala tv mo pre?
thanks
btw ano pala tv mo pre?
I've been quoted 160T for the 428 Kuro at Automatic and provisionally, around 20T below that by one of our favorite stores in this forum. Hopefully its going to be lower pa. If so, I'm ready to pull the trigger on this baby.
wow that is lower than what i am expecting! time to sell my 427 cheap and get those 8th gen kuros in my home!!!
wow that is lower than what i am expecting! time to sell my 427 cheap and get those 8th gen kuros in my home!!!
have you seen the difference between the 427 and 428? dun sa 50 inches na pioneer mukang my difference pero sa 42 it is hard to tell.. looks almost similar to me.. or maybe pangit lang ung dvd source nong nakita ko sya in action...
Has anyone seen the new 42 or 50 inch pioneer KURO? read the reviews they said that the picture quality is way better than the older version of the pioneer pdp 427 or the 50 inch...
Any comments or comparisons?
thanks
sir jeff what's to account for the low prices the new models are selling for? the weak dollar or is it really the trend in the industry of maturing technology or competition?
Kuros 42 428 105k lang boys
Kuros 50 508 160k lang. ;)
5 units each available from theater works pioneer phil warrarnty free hdmi 1.3 version ;D
ano itsura nong kuro model? ung nakita ko kasi parang all black na ung color nya unline the 7th gen na may grey sa baba...
which one looks better?
how about the PQ? malayo ba tlga? or almost the same?
kia vs honda
Hindi bagay.... how about Rolex vs Alba :D :D :D
hehe which one dun ung 427? ung kia? alba? hehe
o, the new model just came out. better and cheaper.
buy it while its hot :)
Kuros 42 428 105k lang boys
Kuros 50 508 160k lang. ;)
5 units each available from theater works pioneer phil warrarnty free hdmi 1.3 version ;D
Kuros 42 428 105k lang boys
Kuros 50 508 160k lang. ;)
5 units each available from theater works pioneer phil warrarnty free hdmi 1.3 version ;D
Grabe! :o
Dumami na tuloy option ko! ;D
1. Panasonic PY700 - Full DH
2. Pioneer Kuros 428 - http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/v3/pg/kuro/product/details/0,,2076_310069733_459440994_tab=B,00.html?compName=PNA_V3_ProductDetailsComponent
3. Toshiba42X3500 - Full HD
:D :D :D
Kuro 428 not full hd yet 1080p capable, katumbas ng 42pv70 lang ito. ;D
Grabe! :o
Dumami na tuloy option ko! ;D
1. Panasonic PY700 - Full HD
2. Pioneer Kuros 428 - HD XGA 1024X768 http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/v3/pg/kuro/product/details/0,,2076_310069733_459440994_tab=B,00.html?compName=PNA_V3_ProductDetailsComponent
3. Toshiba42X3500 - Full HD
:D :D :D
OO nga Sir Jeff :D
High-Definition Resolution XGA - 1024 x 768 lang pala to.
Full HD na Pio, mahal sigurado yan
pag ganyang palaging may bago e wag na lang kayang bumili? hahaha :)
There really is no such thing as "future proof".
1080p? Ang baba naman ng resolution ... Wala yan sa lolo ko ...
Sharp already has a prototype 64" LCD with a native resolution of approx. 4000 x 2000 (8.8 megapixels)!
(http://www.cnet.co.uk/i/c/blg/cat/televisions/sharp_ultra_high_definition_tv.jpg)
Sharp ultra-definition: Even higher definition
Firday 16 March 2007
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/televisions/0,39029474,49288581,00.htm (http://crave.cnet.co.uk/televisions/0,39029474,49288581,00.htm)
... I guess contrast ratio is more critical to PQ than resolution.
I'm sure that LCD and plasma makers are both aware that 1080p is an insignificant improvement for smaller screens --- they're only doing it because full HD is what the customer wants. Ask the average flat panel shoppers what they think is the most important aspect in a flat panel's picture quality, and you'll invariably get the same answer: RESOLUTION.
According to the ISF (Imaging Science Foundation), the most important aspects of picture quality are: 1. contrast ratio, 2. color saturation, 3. color accuracy, and 4. resolution, in that order. Resolution is the least important, yet the bandwagon seems to think the opposite.
... If you want a Pioneer plasma, wait for the Kuro. I think buying the previous generation's model now would be a waste of money. The Kuro is the new king of black levels.
pag ganyang palaging may bago e wag na lang kayang bumili? hahaha :)
what's next 2gp = 2 giga pixel resolution
Kuros Xmas Promo gift ito. 428- Php100k cash
Ipon ipon muna :D
kabibili ko lang ng 42pv70! wala pa 1 week tapos eto na kuro! ano ba yan! grabe ka jeff, dapat i ban ka for 1 month para wala bago dito...
ha ha ha ha! kainis ka :D :D :D
You may wish to consider this price from Jeff himself
Kuros Xmas Promo gift ito. 428- Php100k cash and 508- Php155k
Nemesis91 (Jeff) of Theater Works - M3 TRINOMA MALL EDSA 3016B near Mindanao parking area 3rd floor. Quezon City
Tel: 901-39-75
Or check his thread here
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=60748.0
Hi.
That was really fast. And very helpful!
Thank you so much.
vir.2.oso
Happy hunting
Haayy, napagod na ako sa kabila dito naman ako. hehehe.. ;D
May I ask if this 50 inch you mentioned here is different from the 508 model mentioned above at 155k? Thanks
Yes they are different. The 265K one is 1080p while the 155K one is 720p.
50" PDPLX508G at P265,000.00 (tentative price; price subject to change)
Release date will be December 15, 2007 or earlier
Arrival on second week of January, 2008
60" PDPLX608G at P320,000.00 (tentative price; price subject to change)
Holy-santa-banana! It's like hanging half of my car on the wall. How I wish I'm rich enough to buy such a monster. :D Ang ganda siguro nito! ;D
Paul of Sights & Sound came over late this afternoon and calibrated the 428XG using the Spyder. He was done in about 30 minutes. He commented that the calibrated settings (saved in User mode) were very close to the TV's default setting under Optimum mode. Some TV's daw are way off the D65 ideal but this one was almost spot-on out of the box.
How do I compare it to my Movie mode setting which I got from Pio 8G owners on AVS forum and which is my current favorite? Paul's is obviously more colorful. Mas tuminkad yung colors with the general tint nudged closer to yellow compared to the AVS setting. Other than that, both have the same easy-on-the-eye presentation. Which do I like better? Of course I like the more colorful one but the jury's still out on which looks more natural. I'll have to watch more Blurays before I can decide. Maybe I'll post some pics so you guys can decide which looks more natural.
Nevertheless, I would like to thank Sights & Sounds and Vic for delivering this great value added service. More power sir.
I saw some reviews on the DV600 and medyo ok mga comments...
Please advise naman on the DV600 if you have ever encountered this machine before.
Hi Adonis,
Seems may room for improvement pa ang DV600... around how much is the unit kaya and where would be the best place to buy it?
Many thanks!
Pre eto ba ung calibration on the spyder na ginawa ni Paul of sights and sounds? Is it possible that you post that too?
thanks...
Paul of Sights & Sound came over late this afternoon and calibrated the 428XG using the Spyder. He was done in about 30 minutes. He commented that the calibrated settings (saved in User mode) were very close to the TV's default setting under Optimum mode. Some TV's daw are way off the D65 ideal but this one was almost spot-on out of the box.
How do I compare it to my Movie mode setting which I got from Pio 8G owners on AVS forum and which is my current favorite? Paul's is obviously more colorful. Mas tuminkad yung colors with the general tint nudged closer to yellow compared to the AVS setting. Other than that, both have the same easy-on-the-eye presentation. Which do I like better? Of course I like the more colorful one but the jury's still out on which looks more natural. I'll have to watch more Blurays before I can decide. Maybe I'll post some pics so you guys can decide which looks more natural.
Nevertheless, I would like to thank Sights & Sounds and Vic for delivering this great value added service. More power sir.
Hi E-reply,
Is the wall mount that you are bundling in the Pio428XG the one with the "movable arm" that can help users connect additional cables for new devices after the wall mount has been installed?
thanks!
Papost nalang dito ng settings pre kasi taga pampanga pa ako =) and para makita narin ng ibang members kasi rami din yta nakabili dito =) also pano pwede pagandahin ung tv or cable viewing? naka dream satellite kasi ako medyo dull ung colors, ang gamit ko is composite kasi un ung kasama dun sa dream box, bumili na ako ng better cables pero halos ganon padin.. what do you think?
To those who are thinking of buying a plasma pioneer i posted my setup here:
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=76469.0
thanks to all who helped me get this unit!
newbie here, im planning to buy 428xg..after a thorough canvassing, i learned that you are entitled for an isf calibration from authorized technician straight from pioneer philippines (although calibration settings for 8th gen isnt available as of yet) for free when purchasing 8th gen pioneer kuros.
Can anyone tell me what should I expect after an ISF calibration? Has anyone been disatisfied with the picture after the ISF calibration?
Thanks in advance.
9G kuros may have been marketed in the states already.
@Nemesis and E-reply
Any news about the incoming 9G Kuro? Are there tentative prices already?
What about prices on the '07 Kuro's? nagbabaan na po ba? Been admiring kuro's since I've seen the displays. Please PM me sale prices if it's not too much trouble. Thanks in advance! :)
There are none yet of the 9G Kuro in the Philippine market. By the way, the series '07 are not KURO, but regular Pioneer plasma TVs. Pioneer started KURO series on its 8 seires line-up.
hehe. i was referring to 2007 models ('07). pa-pm sale prices kung meron including 50 inchers. last time i checked with your guys shops it was tagged at 95 to 97k for the 42":)
Just an FYI.
March 2008:
Pioneer to stop production of plasma panels
http://www.digitalhome.ca/content/view/2362/206/
Just an FYI.
March 2008:
Pioneer to stop production of plasma panels
http://www.digitalhome.ca/content/view/2362/206/
Plasma news:
Pioneer to stop making 42-inch plasma panels: report
Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:16am EST
TOKYO (Reuters) - Pioneer Corp will stop making 42-inch plasma panels and instead buy panels in that size and smaller from Panasonic maker Matsushita Electric Industrial or Hitachi Ltd to turn around its loss-making flat TV business, the Asahi newspaper said.
Japanese consumer and auto electronics maker Pioneer will end output of such panels at a plant in Kagoshima prefecture in southern Japan as early as by March 2009, the paper said in the report on Saturday.
It will focus on making panels 50 inches or larger at other plants, the Asahi said.
http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUST34259620080225
Pioneer says goodbye to plasma manufacturing :o :o :o
Posted Mar 3rd 2008 6:42PM by Richard Lawler
We wondered why its so hard to find one of Pioneer's award winning Kuro plasmas on shelves these days, and here is the answer. The Nikkei is reporting that Pioneer plans to stop producing plasma panels altogether, and only put together HDTVs with panels purchased from other sources. Panasonic and Hitachi remain as the only Japanese plasma manufacturers, Pioneer already has a deal with the former to purchase plasmas for its 42-inch model, and will expand that agreement according to The Nikkei. Honestly, this wouldn't be a big deal for most companies, as we've seen with the Sony/Sharp/Samsung triangle in LCD manufacturing, but since Pioneer is the only manufacturer promising the blackest black levels this side of carbon nanotubes, we're freaking out a bit. Here's hoping Pioneer slides over the blueprints to the infinite contrast concept (and that sexy 9mm model) and keeps the party going.
http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/03/pioneer-says-goodbye-to-plasma-manufacturing/
KURO at its best ;)
from CNET/ASIA review
"In a nutshell, you are paying for an LX Kuro clone with a near-identical feature set and an impressive 70 to 80 percent performance margin. The PDP-428XG may not be the most affordable 42-incher in the market, but then you're obviously not forking out twice and more to savor the renowned Kuro blacks and reference-grade picture quality. Now that’s a steal and great value for money."
http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/home_av/tvs/0,39037588,42041631p,00.htm
I personally have noticed juddering with the 428xg that was not present on the 50 incher (displays in malls and I've seen it numerous times). I've read a comment that barrister wrote about 1024 x 768 not being able to display a natural 16:9 aspect ratio. This could probably be a contributing factor for the issues I've seen on the 42 inch kuro. I believe that I would rather get a 1366 x 768 screen just to be on the safe side. You're going to spend big money anyway, might as well be in debt for a few more months. haha.
i change the default settings of film mode from standard to advance/smooth under pro adjust>pure cinema>film mode to eliminate motion judder :) this is one feature that kuro has.. the ones displayed in malls are in default settings. if i just have a space for a 50 incher in my room, id definitely didnt hesitated to pick that over the 42's ;) yet i'm still loving my kuro daily:D ;)
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pio/pe/images/portal/cit_3424/461076357Brochure-PDP-4280HD.pdf
Thanks for the input. Is that the setting to activate the 24p 72Hz film mode? I also thought that would help, but i'm not sure if the judder that i'm referring to is the same with what the film mode will rectify. Well better test it out myself in i can get a hold of one (with the coop of my wallet). :)
To all pioneer Kuro 428XG owners, have you had burn-in problems with your plasma when used for gaming. How about image retention? How long does it take for IR to disappear? I plan to get the 42" kuro and it will be used 50% for gaming and 50% for dvd. Need your advice. Thanks
To all pioneer Kuro 428XG owners, have you had burn-in problems with your plasma when used for gaming. How about image retention? How long does it take for IR to disappear? I plan to get the 42" kuro and it will be used 50% for gaming and 50% for dvd. Need your advice. Thanks
I'm really thinking about getting this unit over a Panasonic Plasma, since this will be a living room T.V hows the Cable performance? (I already know the DVD/Blu-Ray capability)carlo777....
Any other site where I can get reviews about this T.V? More links will really be helpful!
Thank you very much in advance.
Regards,
Finally got my 42" Kuro yesterday c/o E-reply (thanks Vic for the nice deal). I was really impressed by the black level of this Kuro that's why I chose it over the Panasonic plasma. Carlo777, cable performance is quite good. Cableviewing-wise, I wasn't really expecting much (since I bought this mainly for DVD and gaming). I was actually expecting it to be worse than on my Samsung 32R81 since cable noise is usually magnified on a larger screen, or so I thought. I was really surprised by the PQ from cable signal. Also, compared with my samsung LCD, cable set-up is much easier. With my Samsung, after 'auto-programming', the channels are jumbled and it took me a while to place them in proper order. Not with this TV. Cable channels are assigned to the correct channel numbers.
So far, after a day of watching, I'm very impressed by the PQ of this plasma. My only minor gripe is the lack of a dedicated sleep button on the remote (sleep mode can be activated by going to the menu).
I always gawk at these pics pag walang magawa.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=920011 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=920011)
:o :o ganda ng kuro talaga..its like your looking outside the window sa sobrang ganda ng pq. its really nice to have a bigger panel ;D
baka lang merong hindi pa alam yung link na ito sa AVS.
I always gawk at these pics pag walang magawa.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=920011 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=920011)
thanks contacted them already and it looks like somethings wrong with the control board in the TV :(please update us with what happened after the repair and what caused it :D
Hi Guys,
I have a problem with my plasma screen. I have a Pioneer PDP series 42", I moved my stuff for cleaning and when I reconnected all of them when I turned on the TV to my surprise instead of having 1 single scene in the monitor the scene appeared like a puzzle divided into 8. Parang puzzle sya na ginulo into 8pcs. What could have caused this? To those who have experienced the same please advice on how to fix this. :) thanks and I hope to hear from you soon.
@jambam,
How much did it cost to bring it to manila?
$210 inland US shipping + $400 shipping US to manila
how much is the custom duties?
The shipping charges to Manila was all inclusive door to door
Did you have the shipment insured? If so, was it included in the shipping charges? :)
Congrats jambam, siguradong hindi ka magsisisi, yung akin mag 1 year na, always takes my breath away ;)
Salamat ...talagang maganda siya , kaya nagpakuha ako ng pangalawa bago maubos o tumaas ang price pa...
Mainit nga lang talaga ang plasma lalo na pag 50" or more ..
Yup, mainit sya, pero mararamdaman mo lang syang mainit pag lumapit ka ng maigi sa screen. Nagpa calibrate ka ba? If not, you may want to try calibration ni Bumptious ng avforum, use the 8 G D65 HDMI Settings
http://www.avforums.com/forums/plasma-televisions/544315-pioneer-8g-owners-thread.html
IMHO, maganda kaysa sa suggested settings ni D-nice ng avsforum, below is the link of d-nice settings
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=858851
Enjoy!!!
Yun Panasonic 42" di gaano maramdaman ang init kung hawakan mo lang . pero itong Kuro na 50" pag daan mo lang sa harap mga 1ft in front alam mo ng mainit.
Thanks sa links ... Yes I am using D-nice settings fior the 5010 na 8G
Ah oo nga pala, US version ka nga pala. anyways kumusta viewing experience mo?
sirs,
you might be interested to download the pioneer demo - The Kuro Experience ... here's the link - http://www.demo-world.eu/trailers/high-definition-trailers.php
other HD demo video are also available on that site
sirs,
you might be interested to download the pioneer demo - The Kuro Experience ... here's the link - http://www.demo-world.eu/trailers/high-definition-trailers.php
other HD demo video are also available on that site
bro anong format ng files dito? .mkv?
thanks!
I downloaded this myself. It's in .m2ts file container.
yeah i download some clips too, hirap laptop ko iplay humihinto.
would you know if WDTV can play this format bro? thanks!
would you know if WDTV can play this format bro? thanks!
Yes it can.
I can probably only tell the difference between the black bars and the bezel because I know the black bars are there.
You are not seeing things. The 500M and snobby brother (PRO-101FD) share a revised version of original 9G PDP module. These revised PDP models add additional Kuro tech that we would have seen on the 10G Kuros. The difference between the 500M and 111FD I have is almost as dramatic as the difference between the 8G Kuros and "Rev A" 9G Kuros.
Jambam, where will you get a stand for that? Wall mount mo ba? Thats the model that i can only afford sa pioneer hehe. Its on sale in the US and want to get one kahit na monitor lang. External tuner box na lang ako.
sir if i may ask. magkano na sya sa US? thanks!
How much are they selling the KRP-500M and KRP-600M here in the Philippines?
Since these are being sold here in Asia, does it mean it has less features (compared to the ones sold in the US)? Read somewhere that Panasonic units being sold here have less features than those sold in the US. I don't know if Pioneer subscribes to the same practice.
Jambam, where will you get a stand for that? Wall mount mo ba? Thats the model that i can only afford sa pioneer hehe. Its on sale in the US and want to get one kahit na monitor lang. External tuner box na lang ako.
http://www.beachcamera.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=PRKRP500M
$1,594 with Free Shipping after CB (w/o stand)
http://www.monitoroutlet.com/product/pioneer_krp_500m_kuro_50_quot_plasma_hdtv_1080p_with_krp_ts02pm_tabletop_stand,36651.html
$1,634.99 free shipping (with stand)
Sir Toy, quote mo naman ako ng shipping for that (Pioneer 50"). I can buy it in the US and just have it shipped sa brother mo.
greabe pala price difference ha.
how much will it cost kaya shipping it here to manila?
And how come it is being sold in the US so cheap, while they are *really* squeezing potential buyers here?
how i wish for the 428xg to be still available. :(
Company just called up. There is still one sealed unit of 428XG at P103K. :D
Will there be new Kuro model for this year (2009)? KRP600 and 500M are from last year, right? I want to get the last generation of Kuro before Pioneer exits the business.
im just afraid how HMR handle warranty issues. :(
my boss is inclined to get the 60" krp600m, any downside aside from it not having a tuner? thanks!
my boss is inclined to get the 60" krp600m, any downside aside from it not having a tuner? thanks!magkano naman bro francis? :)
May nabibili pa bang KURO here in the Phils and in the US,..?yeah, meron pa. Your last chance to buy the last of the kuros. Pioneer says around 20 krp500a left and probably a few more Lx508 8th gen panels.
@abc - apparently its available here. im surprised really. its in all sm appliance and sns.
The brand new models are krp 500A and the display units are krp 500M. One difference between them is the pure AV mode which makes me quite curious on the difference.
Can anyone here share if the pure av mode makes a huge difference? From what i read, this mode doesnt make the plasma process anything and just replicates the dvd/blu ray source directly.
Also the 500A in europe has the pure AV mode, philippines and hk dont have this option...Why?
Thanks in advance guys.
the other day it was 149k tag price sa sm, i think without the bundles 120k nalang cash or card
Thanks. Same market price as the VT30. To 3D or not to 3D. Hehehe
nope. Pansonic Philippines will obviously price its new VT30 for around 300k+ like the old vt25 when it was first released. Price point the GT30 will probably be priced closer to the krp500A in today's market.
300K for a 50 inch HDTV? What??? If that is the case, then the GT30 which is 30% less than the VT30 will be more than 200K. So that leaves the ST30 as the possible choice, but who will buy a mirror like TV, prone to glare for 150K? No la. ;DThe 65 and not 55 inch will be around 300k. This is just based on last years vt25 prices. Cross your fingers that's will not be the case.
Mirror like TV? Glare?
magkano naman bro francis? :)
it was @190k last month amigo, pero di namen inabutan yung last unit. they confirmed and when ipapadeliver na wala na daw pala. >:( nauwi kame sa 63" ng Samsung, C7000.mura narin pala bro. pero wala parin pambili ;D
saw a display unit at sm san lazaro 50 inches kuro forgot the model 80k pwde pa raw ibaba pag sure buyer at cash...wow pwede na ito dun sa di maselan sa gadgets :)
Almost 4 years na pala yung Kuro ko. Amazing TV, zero issues, no dead pixels, no image retention/screen burn - not even a hint of it - ever, as good as when it came out of the box. I've bougt a couple of LCD's since then but they can't hold a candle to the Kuro.
Got me one of these before they disappear forever - a circa 2009 but new-in-box KRP-500A. 9th and last generation of the vaunted Kuro line.
^unfortunately phillipine model doesnt have av pure mode on the 500A
bit the 600M has
HTH
Congrats!! I hope you got a great deal. :D
Thanks Mandy. I should've browsed the previous posts on this thread as there was a discussion on this pala. Yup, Pure mode is not here and the on screen user interface, as far as I can tell, is the same as my 2007 428XG's. The monitor I have is actually a KRP-500P, an August 2009 Japan build. This makes me wonder about the post in the website linked by Tavus (http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=45450.1410), that Pio halted production of Kuros in April 2009.
I dialed in the D-Nice KRP-500 calibration settings in User Mode and got a very realistic and natural looking picture. This is very likely close to the missing Pure settings cause all the TV processing features are turned off.
Merong ding 50" di ko na kinuha model number at more than 200k ang price
Hi Lithium,
Remember me? I got the 508XG and VERY VERY HAPPY WITH MY INVESTMENT SINCE 3 years ago!!!
I saw the 60 incher being sold by sir Vic last year, almost had the biggest temptation of my life on TV's happen ahahahaha.
Kuro is the best. Well I can say maybe the most proven.
more power!
hey i notice that every time i watch cable TV the black levels of the krp 500 become greyer and then when i play DVDs, it becomes really black. is the TV suppose to do that?
Yes the kuros blacks are excellent and still unbeaten when watching DVDs but sayang lang its excellent blacks don't seem to apply to local Tv well for my unit.
the unit is a krp500a with tuner
does this happen when you watch regular cable shows with your tv ?