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Home Theater => Displays => Standard TV => Topic started by: Furry on Oct 21, 2002 at 12:54 PM
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To anyone who has this TV already, your inputs would be helpful :) Is this better than Sony w/ DRC? I've been to Megatrade Hall for the Citibank appliance fiesta and saw this TV side-by-side with Brand "S". Sabi sa akin Sony DRC daw yun comparison eh. And it does look better talaga.
..But Sony is still Sony :) i'm willing to pay half the price for a 29" Vega trinitron so I'm still exploring my options.
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Hi Furry,
I'm a recent victim of a Philips TV set. I suggest you thoroughly test the set with your AV equipment before you buy. It took a long time til they refunded me.
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Never had a problem with my Philips TV, although not the same model. I have a Matchline 50" RPTV and it worked "1 click" with my HT set-up. :)
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thanks guys. i will definitely research more before buying. your feedback helps a lot!
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;D ;D ;D
Dont have the same model pero same brand.
Saw this one in the BPI in Glorietta and you could really notice the difference. the philips TV is indeed better than brand "S". dun sa philips parang live yung pinapanood mo. the people in the TV really comes alive.
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Saw the demo units on Glorietta 4 (cinema lobby) of the PixelPlus. They were showing the Gladiator and wala akong masabi. Parang nasa likod lang yun camera man! sobrang linaw talaga and yun mga tao sa movie parang hindi nasa TV! it makes me want to think about this TV set. :)
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Yup, saw the same thing earlier but at Anson's naman... for a price of Php 130k for the 34" model, mukhang okay but would be nice if they bring it down below 100k ;-)
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Guys,
any more feedback on this TV model? Who have bought this one na. Im interested in the 34 -in. model.
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Guys,
any more feedback on this TV model? Who have bought this one na. Im interested in the 34 -in. model.
I bought the 29 inches last Dec 31 and will be delivered tomorrow. I will post my observation later.
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hello guys!
no offense meant but i noticed na every AV store i've been to are using Gladiator as demo movie. Last time i watched this movie, they were using a 41 or 42" Panasonic RPTV with Progressive Scan. It was indeed life-like 'ika nga. IMO, wala sa tv yun ganda nun movie kundi andun sa disk. I watched this movie (R2) using my KV-AR25M80 wega flat, noticeable yun difference alright but not that much. Maganda pa rin, bottomline.
;D
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I bought the 29 inches last Dec 31 and will be delivered tomorrow. I will post my observation later.
Thanks, I will wait for your review. Can you post how much for the 29 and any idea for the 34 inch? or just PM me :)
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I bought the 29 inches last Dec 31 and will be delivered tomorrow. I will post my observation later.
Thanks, I will wait for your review. Can you post how much for the 29 and any idea for the 34 inch? or just PM me :)
The 29 inches goes for 88,800 with a free entertainment system worth 20K (I have my friend buy this to reduce my cost) during the promo period with zero interest for 12 months using paylite.
The 34 inches goes for 128,800 with a free entertainment system worth 28,800 (my friend is not willing to buy the free system so i end up buying the 29 only).
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Hmmm,
Quite expensive. The 29 in price is almost double the 29 matchline PIP. Im eager to know if the performance of these TV's will be commensurate to the price. Im planning an upgrade, thats why. Thanks.
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Does anyone know a site to compare the resolution of a philips pixel plus, sony drc, toshiba hdtv, philips hdtv? This might help a lot coz on comparison between a Sony DRC and a Pixel Plus as what was demonstrated in various stores is that, maybe the Brand S picture quality was altered a bit so that the Pixel Plus will stand out. Or maybe the Brand S is an old unit compared to a Pixel Plus. Marketing ploy ya know.... :-\
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I saw a Pixel Plus 29 inch side by side with an ordinary Philips 29 inch (not Pixel Plus) at Automatic Center. The difference is astonishing. The movie being played is Stewart Little. The scene I watched is the toy boat race. The colors are much more alive on the Pixel Plus as if you're looking through a window. :o If I have the dough, I'll buy one.
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;D ;D ;D
Do you think there would be a day when these TVs would become more affordable?
Ang mahal talaga ng presyo. ;)
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i saw one in unimart's automatic centre... the picture was gorgeous! they had other philips tvs showing the same film and the difference is really big. i could only dream of using that with my ps2... if im not mistaken it has a d-terminal, just imagine the display went you use the d-terminal cable for ps2 on that monster tv... (drooling...)
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will the Pixel Plus have a better quality than a normal HDTV playing DVD with progressive scan turned on?
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Does anyone know a site to compare the resolution of a philips pixel plus, sony drc, toshiba hdtv, philips hdtv? This might help a lot coz on comparison between a Sony DRC and a Pixel Plus as what was demonstrated in various stores is that, maybe the Brand S picture quality was altered a bit so that the Pixel Plus will stand out. Or maybe the Brand S is an old unit compared to a Pixel Plus. Marketing ploy ya know.... :-\
home theater magazine has a great face off review on direct view hdtv's.
heres the link to the article:
The 2002 Direct-View HDTV Face Off (http://www.hometheatermag.com/showarchives.cgi?148)
hope this helps
bently
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@ 85-90-96-93-91 rating....looks like nothing beats Sony... ::)
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Philips Pixel Plus had an average of 89 while the Sony has an average of 91 in terms of performance.
Guys be the judge....tsk tsk
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with a very close result on rating, ill go with pixel plus if there if substantial price difference, say P5 K or more on both 34 inchers. Of course, if they are of the same price, Ill go with sony.
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with a very close result on rating, ill go with pixel plus if there if substantial price difference, say P5 K or more on both 34 inchers. Of course, if they are of the same price, Ill go with sony.
but the difference for the 34 inches is about 29K since Philips has a free entertainment system costing 28,800 and both Sony and Philips cost 128,800. I'm still busy to make a review on Philips pero so far hindi ako nagsisi sa Philips...ANG LINAW LINAW TALAGA!!! :o :o :o
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Teka, lets clarify... You mean Phlps pixel plus 34 cost 128,800 with 28,800 worth freebies, while sony 34 cost 128,800 without freebies.. if so, Ill grab the philips blindfold , kaya lang wala pang pera ;D
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Freebies or no freebies-
i'd still go for Sony.... ;D
the stats sez it all... :-*
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Teka, lets clarify... You mean Phlps pixel plus 34 cost 128,800 with 28,800 worth freebies, while sony 34 cost 128,800 without freebies.. if so, Ill grab the philips blindfold , kaya lang wala pang pera ;D
YES and the DVD is progressive scan na with 5 speakers and an active sub-woofer. a basta ang ganda ganda talaga. Im not saying that Sony is not a good TV but it's way way OVER PRICED!
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Teka, lets clarify... You mean Phlps pixel plus 34 cost 128,800 with 28,800 worth freebies, while sony 34 cost 128,800 without freebies.. if so, Ill grab the philips blindfold , kaya lang wala pang pera ;D
You can get a 34" Sony DRC-MF for Php103,000. If I had that much cash I would have gotten that model.
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Teka, lets clarify... You mean Phlps pixel plus 34 cost 128,800 with 28,800 worth freebies, while sony 34 cost 128,800 without freebies.. if so, Ill grab the philips blindfold , kaya lang wala pang pera ;D
For me, those are not freebies; you pay for them.
Some stores are willing to remove the 'freebies' and convert them to a cash discount.
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Teka, lets clarify... You mean Phlps pixel plus 34 cost 128,800 with 28,800 worth freebies, while sony 34 cost 128,800 without freebies.. if so, Ill grab the philips blindfold , kaya lang wala pang pera ;D
For me, those are not freebies; you pay for them.
Some stores are willing to remove the 'freebies' and convert them to a cash discount.
I went back the other day sa Abenson SM North pero wala ng kasamang 'freebies' pag paylite...only cash purchase na lang for 'freebies'.
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@ 85-90-96-93-91 rating....looks like nothing beats Sony... ::)
siguro on small sized TVs... pero on big sized TVs, or RPTVs, most callibrators would say that you either go with Mitsubishi, Pioneer, then Sony... in that order.... :)
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sgc-
with due respect,...discussed here is the 34" class.... :) but even so, at least u state that sony goes before philips-
"siguro on small sized TVs... pero on big sized TVs, or RPTVs, most callibrators would say that you either go with Mitsubishi, Pioneer, then Sony... in that order...."
i've been enlightened! by sony drc-mf..... ;D
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sgc-
with due respect,...discussed here is the 34" class.... :) but even so, at least u state that sony goes before philips-
"siguro on small sized TVs... pero on big sized TVs, or RPTVs, most callibrators would say that you either go with Mitsubishi, Pioneer, then Sony... in that order...."
i've been enlightened! by sony drc-mf..... ;D
Hi tabs,
yup I know it's about 34" class... but my comment was in reply to your comment "looks like nothing beats sony"... it sounded general, that nothing beats sony... so I mentioned that maybe that's true on smaller sized TV's... but on bigger sized TV's... there are better brands than Sony :)
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maganda tvs ng sony, but the best? im not sure everyone will agree
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looks like nothing beats sony - i was merely expressing my opinion.....para sa akin, sony is on the top of list. i've seen, tested, and compared TVs- sony, samsung, LG, panasonic, JVC, 34" class; pero iba talaga ang sony- that's 4 me...
perhaps u'r right, maybe there are other brands better than sony...but i'll stick with sony.... :-*
peace bro!..... ;D
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yeah I know what you mean :) Iba talaga ang Sony..
I just posted my comments baka kasi may newbies, and they might think na it's just Sony, and everything else.... :)
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sony pa rin! mahirap ang service at parts ng philips e
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sgc_wdi :
OT : Were you able to have your Pioneer SD-643HD5 RPTV calibrated locally? By whom? Are they any good? How much? Pls PM...
Teta
;D
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BTW, Philips Pixel Plus has this option to turn off their prog scan or the pixel plus mode to get just the regular interlaced video output.
Question: If you are always using the prog scan mode the whole time, would it lessen the life of your picture tube? Considering that it is using its features to the fullest....hmmm?
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BTW, Philips Pixel Plus has this option to turn off their prog scan or the pixel plus mode to get just the regular interlaced video output.
Question: If you are always using the prog scan mode the whole time, would it lessen the life of your picture tube? Considering that it is using its features to the fullest....hmmm?
Im not sure kung meron to because there are only two options Prog scan or pixel plus. How do you turn off and whats the effect on picture quality ???
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Hi people, this is my second time to post on pinoydvd. :) Just got the 29" pixel plus. Its pretty... :D I have a question about it. How do you take off the AV1 on the top left corner. I can't seem to find it in the manual and have been playing around with the buttons too. But its still there. I have to say, Philips is a bit un user friendly, but otherwise, I would recommend this tv to everyone.
Thanks for all your help.
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donkhoi- I dunno if turning off is the term but then when you take out the pixel plus feature, picture quality wouldnt be as outstanding(as expected). Scenario: so with this, you would always put on the pixel plus feature because it is better right? But how would this effect the picture tube with this feature on the whole time. Would it lessen the picture tube's life? ??? I'm bamboozled....
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Hi people, this is my second time to post on pinoydvd. :) Just got the 29" pixel plus. Its pretty... :D I have a question about it. How do you take off the AV1 on the top left corner. I can't seem to find it in the manual and have been playing around with the buttons too. But its still there. I have to say, Philips is a bit un user friendly, but otherwise, I would recommend this tv to everyone.
Thanks for all your help.
Does your remote control have a display button? Pressing it would show the TVs status and pressing it again takes out the onscreen display. That works universally in all TVs. I am not sure with your TV though.
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I'm not sure in which thread to put this question, but anyway, i posted it in both threads (PixelPlus and Wega).
I really want to see a head to head comparison of these two technologies (Pixel Plus and DRC-MF). I'm not in the market for a new tv right now but I just want to see which is better or the advantages and disadvantages of both. Pwede ba magrequest ng side by side demo of both units sa mga A/V shops or appliance centers? Kakahiya naman kasi kung papademo ako tapos di naman ako bibili. With all the hassle na gagawin nila to setup and given that these are high end models.
Has anyone done this? Pakipost naman findings niyo.
thanks.
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thanks for the help but I was able to find out how lastnight. There's an info+ button on the remote, no display. I found it in the menu for OSD. If I set it the OSD to minimum then the channel/source disappears.
As for the comparison of the DRC-MF and Pixel Plus, you can go to Ansons Main on Pasay road and they have the two units side by side for a demo. The Sony is covered up and the settings, well I don't know what they are, but atleast you get to see the two side by side.
thanks for all the help again.
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thanks bundy, might check that out one of these days. pero di kaya bias yung setup na yon sa pixel plus? :)
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@ 85-90-96-93-91 rating....looks like nothing beats Sony... ::)
have you tried even looking at the Loewe or Grundig 100Hz series? you'll be very happy
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thanks bundy, might check that out one of these days. pero di kaya bias yung setup na yon sa pixel plus? :)
Yup! very biased and syempre altered na ang settings ng Sony. When I went there, I don't think the Sony compared there is a DRC-MF. It is just a WEGA.
I think that the DRC-MF sold in Abensons or Avid is different from the DRC-MF sold in Image Harrison. The models sold at Avid don't have the progressive scan feature only interlaced 1250. Yung nasa Image Harrison (model#29M69 or 34M69) eh merong progressive scan.
You guys might be misled. Eh pareho namang DRC-MF sila. :-\
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Hi I am about to buy the Philips Pixel Plus 29" I am really astounded by the picture quality. I was wondering if anyone has tested the VGA input??? I really want to connect the TV to my PC. Does anyone know what VGA resolution it supports? Ive searched the web for days couldnt find anything about its VGA supported resolutions... anyone who has tested please help me out! thanks!
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Hi I am about to buy the Philips Pixel Plus 29" I am really astounded by the picture quality. I was wondering if anyone has tested the VGA input??? I really want to connect the TV to my PC. Does anyone know what VGA resolution it supports? Ive searched the web for days couldnt find anything about its VGA supported resolutions... anyone who has tested please help me out! thanks!
Test the set with your computer before you buy. You may end up with a lemon just like what happened to me. :)
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I think that the DRC-MF sold in Abensons or Avid is different from the DRC-MF sold in Image Harrison. The models sold at Avid don't have the progressive scan feature only interlaced 1250. Yung nasa Image Harrison (model#29M69 or 34M69) eh merong progressive scan.
You guys might be misled. Eh pareho namang DRC-MF sila. :-\
You are correct in your assumption that the one sold at local authorized dealers are different from Image in Harrison Plaza.
The sets sold in Avid, et al. DOES have progressive scan just like the one being solid in Harrison. The difference is you pay more & you have the official Sony warranty when you buy from authorized retailers unlike Image who only offers in-house warranty.
The only technical difference between the M69/Image & M89/Avid is that the M69 doesn't have MTS Stereo. With the money saved you can get yourself a kick-arse AVR. :)
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Hi I am about to buy the Philips Pixel Plus 29" I am really astounded by the picture quality. I was wondering if anyone has tested the VGA input??? I really want to connect the TV to my PC. Does anyone know what VGA resolution it supports? Ive searched the web for days couldnt find anything about its VGA supported resolutions... anyone who has tested please help me out! thanks!
According to the manual, you cannot connect any VGA device to the tv. Sorry to tell you the bad news. The good news is, I bought the pixel plus 29" recently and I have absolutely no complaints about the picture quality. Its amazing ;D I'm very satisfied with it and have watched all my dvds over again just to see the difference in picture quality.
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Thats weird, I just read the manual (downloaded it from the web pdf) it says that the VGA connector could be used to connect an HD-Set top box or for use as a computer monitor. Anyways I did my own research too. I'm building an HTPC and you can use powerstrip to output 480p and 1080i on your HD set . With power strip you can tailor the the exact output settings of your video card to match your HD-TV. It is possible to upscale a regular DVD using a software dvd player and display it at 1080i on your HD Set!!!! WOW. Who says HD TV's are useless in the philippines... 1080i is achievable using a geforce or an ATI rage card. Since the philips pixel plus is a 480p/1080i HD tv, this is possible! cant wait to start tweaking. Currently what you may be watching is only 480p on a progressive scan DVD player and its already Awsome!!! dude imagine 1080i DVDs thats HD quality.. far superior to 480p. Paired with the True Motion of the pixel plus.. DVD Nirvana is not a far cry. Anyway I'll post more about this stuff once I start tweeking. :) My Pixel Plus is arriving this Saturday.. I'm so excited!!!
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I saw 34" pixel plus sa sm fairview and mabuti na lang inawat ako ng misis ko kung hindi nabili ko na ito kanya lang three to four months silang hapunan lang ang kakainin araw araw ;D ;D ;D ;D
h****ep talaga ito... galing...
Also the good thing about this model eh pinababa niya ang value ng hdtv ng philips ...... kaya dun na lang ako nagkasya :( :( :(
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Hi, I've read a couple of threads regarding the Pixel Plus, and I'd like to share my thoughts. I own a 29" Pixelplus. Got it about a month ago. I don't have any problems with it so far and I should say the picture quality is really great. There are a lot of connections and the great thing about it is that there are 3 component Video Inputs, 1 which has regular component video and 2 others for progressive scan input. 2 svideo connectors (one at the back and one on the side) and the greatest connector of all the RGB/VGA connector.
I have tried all the connections, and the HD connectors (progressive scan) is the best.
Pixel Plus has a built in feature called Natural Digital Motion, which makes any video signal (assuming its a clean one) well... true to life! but like I said it depends on the signal. One draw back is that you may only use this with the regular component, s-video, and composite inputs, but I should say that this is a great way to watch your over DVD's again to experience it in a different way. To give an example, my sister freaked out when she saw me watching Attack of the Clones on DNM (Digital Natural Motion) hairs standing on end... becuase the movement on the screen looked so real especially digitally animated characters like yoda. It's like movie is live and actually happening and you are looking through a glass window (drool).
The HD inputs (progressive scan) is another story. I have never seen anything so sharp. I have set up my HTPC with a direct connection to the Pixelplus Via VGA connector and its pixel perfect. Since I have the ability to totally tweek my DVD player (software and filters) I am able to achieve the best possible picture quality I could possibly imagine. I did a direct comparison, using 2 players with the same DVD. Looking at the regular DVD is already pretty good, but it suddenly looks blurred once you compare it to an HTPC using the VGA connector. All the little details, lines, facial marks, wrinkles on skin are very visible. Down to the grains of sand in Gladiator. This absolutely the best way to watch DVDs.
Final thoughts.
DNM is a great way to watch your DVD's over again. It makes everything life like, pretty freaky the first time you see it, but you'll actually enjoy it! imagine watching saving private ryan, pearlharbor, enemy at the gates... oooh. For film purists, this might not be for them, cause it takes out the film effect. Everything looks like DV, but hey I think it's cool. By the way DNM only works when pixelplus is selected on the setup menu. Pixelplus is great but I have to admit you do see some stairstepping on edges, shimmer where there is disctinct contrast, but its not as irritating as you'd think. Watching using the HD/VGA connection is still the best if you want to see DVD's in all its glory especially Superbit titles (namely 5Th element!!!) Its the sharpest you'd ever see. (this also depends on your player, I'm using an HTPC so that may also attribute to the excellent picture quality)
Oh and one more thing, when you select widescreen mode on the TV, you will see a white line stretching across from left to right. This is not a defect and according to philips that there is no way to remove this.
(this is the only thing I dont like about it) Other than that, I think my purchase was an excellent choice and I have no regrets.
I just wanted to share what I think, being a Pixelplus User, I'd want others to know what its like.
Thanks! post any questions if you want to know more about my experiences with this TV.
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boss jpadua
congrats sa bago mong equipment... may freebie din ito diba? Na auditioned ko rin ito eh last Jan at talagang napanganga ako..... medyo mahal pa noon I assume ganoon pa rin ang presyo ..... Pro kung naghintay hintay pa ako nakaya ko sana eh... tsk tsk tsk... Nauwi tuloy ako sa HDTV lower model ng Philips. Pro galeng pa rin kumpara sa ibang TV na na-auditioned ko....
3 Component input pala ang Pixel plus sa HDTV dalawa isang progressive at isang hindi.. pro sa SVideo pareho lang one on the side at sa rear.
Anyway enjoy ;D
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boss jpadua
congrats sa bago mong equipment... may freebie din ito diba? Na auditioned ko rin ito eh last Jan at talagang napanganga ako..... medyo mahal pa noon I assume ganoon pa rin ang presyo ..... Pro kung naghintay hintay pa ako nakaya ko sana eh... tsk tsk tsk... Nauwi tuloy ako sa HDTV lower model ng Philips. Pro galeng pa rin kumpara sa ibang TV na na-auditioned ko....
3 Component input pala ang Pixel plus sa HDTV dalawa isang progressive at isang hindi.. pro sa SVideo pareho lang one on the side at sa rear.
Anyway enjoy ;D
Sir Qatarman,
May kasama siya na Home Theatre in a Box ni di progressive... sayang :) pero dalawang progressive scan input, and one regular component input, in the event na may set-top box ka and a progressive scan dvd player and a PS2 at the same time, you can hook them up simultaneously to the TV. Actually ginagamit ko talaga mostly yung HD/progressive scan input more than pixel plus. Ang pixelplus is Philips own proprietary digital scaler which takes a video signal and upscales it to almost HD resolution. Ok din, its the digital natural motion that makes the pixelplus really different. Pero honestly I could have saved a little cash if I opted for just the plain HD version, kasi thats what I use more often... the Digital Motion of Pixel Plus is the what made me get the pixelplus instead of the regular HD version :P what can I say... naglaway talaga ako hehehe, but no need to feel bitin, you also made a good choice with your HD TV kung 16:9 lang TV mo I'm willing to swap! heheheh. Kung may lumabas lang dito na 16:9 na pixelplus yun na kinuha ko, or kahit regular HDtv lang na 16:9. Know anyone with 16:9 philips HD or Pixelplus?
By the way you using a progressive scan player na? or just the regular component input?
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boss jpadua,
Im not using the scan connection yet, still figuring out what dvd prog scan player will buy? pro satisfied naman ako sa regular connection. Ive got mine with HTib freebies pro di ko ginagamit ang speakers at sub niya dahil connected sya sa AVR. kya resulta may extra five sattelite speakers at sub ako... im still trying to figure out din kung paano ko naman ikakabit iyon sa pc
Nang binili ko ang HDTV ko for two days iniisip ko pa rin ang pixel plus na yan..... next time na lang siguro pag me rason na bumili uli at kung nakumbinsi ko na maigi si kumander kya dapat maganda ganda ang pasalubong ko ngayon sa kanya pag-uwi ko ;D ;D
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Sir Qatarman,
Ayos yan! pero madali lang i kabit yung PC mo sa HDTV mo, all you need is a good PC kahit P3 better kung P4 or Athlon XP, a good video card, soundblaster live or audigy and a DVD-rom drive. There are ways to configure your video card to match the scan rate of the HDTV set. Pare sinasabi ko sa yo iba talaga, ang layo from conventional component input, its like night and day! trust me, once youve connected through the HD input, di ka na talaga babalik sa conventional DVD player :D I guarantee it! email mo ako turuan kita mag setup ng HTPC. [email protected] ;)
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which philips pixel plus are you guys talking about?
is it the model with speakers all around the screen or the newer model with speakers only on its sides?
i read in some mag that the first one i mentioned sucks big time and has a lot of defects according to buyers in europe.
as for the second one, i just read in What HIFI that it is a damn good tube! was actually considering getting the 32" before i opted to get myself the new drc-mf instead.
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which philips pixel plus are you guys talking about?
is it the model with speakers all around the screen or the newer model with speakers only on its sides?
i read in some mag that the first one i mentioned sucks big time and has a lot of defects according to buyers in europe.
as for the second one, i just read in What HIFI that it is a d**n good tube! was actually considering getting the 32" before i opted to get myself the new drc-mf instead.
It's the one where there are 2 speakers on the side and a center speaker at the bottom of the screen and a subwoofer at the back. The sound is actually pretty good!
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you picked a good tube then. thats one of what HIFI's best buys for 2002. they didn't really focus on the audio, but picture quality wise its a winner.
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you picked a good tube then. thats one of what HIFI's best buys for 2002. they didn't really focus on the audio, but picture quality wise its a winner.
cooooool! yup actually, for the price I paid for it, I'd really have to love the picture quality DVDs are great, the internal scalers are good too upconverts any signal to almost HD quality! and I love the digital natural motion... I also use it as my Computer Monitor so I surf the web, check my email and best of all play PC games on 29"!!!! game resolution is perfect at 1280x1024i on 1080i Timings. Full screen 4:3 Whoa! since its interlaced, there is not much strain on your graphics card so games are still fast at that high a resolution. If only I had a radeon :D
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Sir Qatarman,
Ayos yan! pero madali lang i kabit yung PC mo sa HDTV mo, all you need is a good PC kahit P3 better kung P4 or Athlon XP, a good video card, soundblaster live or audigy and a DVD-rom drive. There are ways to configure your video card to match the scan rate of the HDTV set. Pare sinasabi ko sa yo iba talaga, ang layo from conventional component input, its like night and day! trust me, once youve connected through the HD input, di ka na talaga babalik sa conventional DVD player :D I guarantee it! email mo ako turuan kita mag setup ng HTPC. [email protected] ;)
tenx sir jpadua, will send you email later. :D
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Mga pare ito bang pixel plus na to, is this the same as the 21 inch na 21pt4320 model. I bought a 21 inch tv kasi last fri. model no. 21pt4320, it has the word dvd terminal at the front.
May napansin kasi akong negative dito, the audio output is quite weak, lalo na pag kinabit mo sa dvd, mas mahina. I connected my xbox to it and mahina sya talaga, nasa 40 - 50 na volume para ma appreciate mo.
I verified this to the salesguy at abensons and they told me that ganun talaga. I notice this kasi I have the old model of philips mas malakas pa sya, sabi nung salesguy max vol ng luma is 60 while the newer versions are up to 100. Nagtataka lang ako kasi rms ng new tv ko is 2x10 while yung luma is 2x3 lang. Any insights with this.
Well sana theres nothing wrong with my tv, anyway sana may magreply naman kasi sa post ko walang reply kahit isa. :)
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I saw this Pixel plus Philips TV while waiting in-line at the LOTR: TT premiere last year, and my jaw dropped when I was watching the Galdiator demo. :oTangining!!! Parang buhay na buhay yung picture at pwede na kong pumasok sa TV. Imagine kuna anong itsura ni Sadako pag sa Pixel Plus tV sya lumabas. He he he.
Kung may pera lang ako, Id buy this TV na, para mai-akyat ko na sa bedroom yung lumang Samsung TV ko.
Aaarrgghh!!!
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I saw this Pixel plus Philips TV while waiting in-line at the LOTR: TT premiere last year, and my jaw dropped when I was watching the Galdiator demo. :oTangining!!! Parang buhay na buhay yung picture at pwede na kong pumasok sa TV. Imagine kuna anong itsura ni Sadako pag sa Pixel Plus tV sya lumabas. He he he.
Kung may pera lang ako, Id buy this TV na, para mai-akyat ko na sa bedroom yung lumang Samsung TV ko.
Aaarrgghh!!!
btw. saw this being sold at anson's i think with free "HTsystem". i was in a hurry so i didnt really get to check what they meant by "HTsystem" if it was just a conponent, just a dvd player or one of those HTIBs
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it's HTib as freebie.. got mine na DVD580M complete 5.1. system :D
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it's HTib as freebie.. got mine na DVD580M complete 5.1. system :D
ey!!! not bad bro. congratulations on your purchase. thats a sweet deal!
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Yeah I got mine with a free HTIB, its a rather simple player that comes with powered 5.1 speakers, nothing really great but its ok being a freebie. Its actually worth about 20k. Its a small player thats a slot loader and can be positioned upright or flat. It actually reminds me of the generic dvd players. When you press the setup button, the interface is very much the same as the generic DVD players...
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it's HTib as freebie.. got mine na DVD580M complete 5.1. system :D
ey!!! not bad bro. congratulations on your purchase. thats a sweet deal!
yap separate price ng Htib na yon ay 20K+ ata eh... indeed it was a good catch. ;D
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Would anyone know if the 32" PixelPlus (widescreen) will be available here in the Philippines?
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I spoke to one of the philips distributors, although there is a widescreen model, they will not be selling it here in the philippines:( they have it available only in singapore, and hongkong I think... I really wish I had the 32" widescreen since I watch DVDs more than TV programs.
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jpadua,
ano raw ang dahilan bakit di nila ibebenta sa pinas?
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Di daw marketable dito, CRT kasi daw.. I dont know.. yung 4:3 lang daw talaga ang bebenta nila dito, regarding mga 16:9 panay projection lang ang ipapasok nila. sayang noh! ako naman I'm not really into the size of the TV the 32" wide would be perfect for me! CRT talaga is the sharpest.. sayang talaga..., I heard from a friend of mine this guy wants to trade in his 34" Pixelplus widescreen he got in singapore for a Toshiba 52" projection TV at focal... I told the guys to inform me if they get the TV, I might tradein my Pixelplus for the Widescreen... no word yet though.
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Sayang yun 32"!!!! :( oh well, nabawasan din yun choices ko.. *sigh* thanks for asking Philips pre.
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magkano na yun 29" Pixelplus ngayon. Do all stores have consistent prices? saan ba makakakuha ng good price and discount?
Thanks!
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;D ;D ;D
Sa Automatic Center I think it goes for P88+++ for the 29" Pixel plus TV.
HAnep talaga ang pictures na pino-produce nitong TV na to. parang live yung movie. It's like you're watching the actors and actresses live like you're there in the set. ;)
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how does the 29" pixel plus tv compare to the previous hdtv model? i mean, assuming i use it mostly for watching dvd movies using a prog scan dvd player. is the 39k price difference worth it?
btw, i'm also thinking about the poor quality reception of our cable lines, is it more evident on this tv?
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how does the 29" pixel plus tv compare to the previous hdtv model? i mean, assuming i use it mostly for watching dvd movies using a prog scan dvd player. is the 39k price difference worth it?
btw, i'm also thinking about the poor quality reception of our cable lines, is it more evident on this tv?
I also have a poor cable reception but when I used the tv's Digital Noise Reduction feature, it clears up! Even better, if I use the VCR as a channel box, the quality of the reception is more like an original VHS movie. ANG LINAW :o :o :o
Everything that the tv promised and I'm not even using a progressive scan DVD, it delivered very nicely...it Exceeded my Expectation!!! ;D
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how does the 29" pixel plus tv compare to the previous hdtv model? i mean, assuming i use it mostly for watching dvd movies using a prog scan dvd player. is the 39k price difference worth it?
btw, i'm also thinking about the poor quality reception of our cable lines, is it more evident on this tv?
the previous model has a lot of defects and bugs. check it out in What HIFI magazine
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thanks for the heads-up. wud you know which issue of What HIFI was this?
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I also use it as my Computer Monitor so I surf the web, check my email and best of all play PC games on 29"!!!! game resolution is perfect at 1280x1024i on 1080i Timings.
Jpadua, can you share your output setup pls.. I have a htpc setup w/ an AIW 8500dv video card w/ component ouput dongle and am planning to buy the 34 " pixel plus as i saw it was offered at 12 months zero interest....
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magkano na yun 29" Pixelplus ngayon. Do all stores have consistent prices? saan ba makakakuha ng good price and discount?
Thanks!
Try to get your Pixel Plus at Anson's. They have lower prices than Abensons or other appliance centers. Syempre ask for a manager's discount para mas mababa pa. Good Luck!
Best TV there is.....
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Jpadua, can you share your output setup pls.. I have a htpc setup w/ an AIW 8500dv video card w/ component ouput dongle and am planning to buy the 34 " pixel plus as i saw it was offered at 12 months zero interest....
YESSS!!! I am back! couldn't log on for the past 2 months! due to some cookie problem but it works now! wierd, anyway to answer your question, my output settings are as follows: I'm using a Geforce4 Ti4200. The Pixelplus has an RGB connector on AV4 (vga input) you need a VGA cable to go direct so no need for a component output dongle. The dongle will limit the resolutions of your card to only 480i 480p 720p and 1080i. I have a male to male VGA cable which you can find in some computer shops. Then I use this free utility called powerstrip. Using powerstrip, they have presets that include 480p 540p 720p 1080i and other resolutions like 800x600i 1024x768i 960x720i 1280x1024i
The pixel plus is a fixed frequency monitor so you have to know what frequency works with the pixel plus. In my experience, the PixelPlus can accept horizontal hz from 50hz to 63hz and the vertical khz anything near 34khz so when setting your output resoultion keep in mind the vertical and horizontal frequencies. Once you have set all the resolutions, you can make presets so you you can switch on the fly. My current output is 540p (which is equivalent to 1080i) and I am using Theatretek with FDshow. The output of which is the closest you'll ever get to High Definition Content. I just watched T2 Extreme on my setup, then watched on a Sony Projection TV using a regular DVD setup... Its like I turned blind... like taking off your glasses so to speak. If you need any more clarifications please do continue this thread! HTPC Rulez!!!
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hi there !
where can you get the latest version of POWERSTRIP?
thanks,
-jackryan 8)
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Try to get your Pixel Plus at Anson's. They have lower prices than Abensons or other appliance centers. Syempre ask for a manager's discount para mas mababa pa. Good Luck!
Best TV there is.....
Hi Nirvblakr,
How do you go about getting a manager's discount? In addition, approximately how much percentage is this? I am eyeing the 34" model of pixelview :-)
thanks,
-jackryan 8)
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YESSS!!! I am back! couldn't log on for the past 2 months! due to some cookie problem but it works now! wierd, anyway to answer your question, my output settings are as follows: I'm using a Geforce4 Ti4200. The Pixelplus has an RGB connector on AV4 (vga input) you need a VGA cable to go direct so no need for a component output dongle. The dongle will limit the resolutions of your card to only 480i 480p 720p and 1080i. I have a male to male VGA cable which you can find in some computer shops. Then I use this free utility called powerstrip. Using powerstrip, they have presets that include 480p 540p 720p 1080i and other resolutions like 800x600i 1024x768i 960x720i 1280x1024i
The pixel plus is a fixed frequency monitor so you have to know what frequency works with the pixel plus. In my experience, the PixelPlus can accept horizontal hz from 50hz to 63hz and the vertical khz anything near 34khz so when setting your output resoultion keep in mind the vertical and horizontal frequencies. Once you have set all the resolutions, you can make presets so you you can switch on the fly. My current output is 540p (which is equivalent to 1080i) and I am using Theatretek with FDshow. The output of which is the closest you'll ever get to High Definition Content. I just watched T2 Extreme on my setup, then watched on a Sony Projection TV using a regular DVD setup... Its like I turned blind... like taking off your glasses so to speak. If you need any more clarifications please do continue this thread! HTPC Rulez!!!
jpadua,
I'm planning to build an HTPC and a gaming PC to use for my 29" pixel plus. How much will it cost to have a decent set-up and can you give me the spec?
By the way I don't have any computer background so whatever you give me, I'm just going to show it to the computer shop ;D
Thanks
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Hi Nirvblakr,
How do you go about getting a manager's discount? In addition, approximately how much percentage is this? I am eyeing the 34" model of pixelview :-)
thanks,
-jackryan 8)
jackryan- you can go there and just ask for a manager's discount. If everything fails ask vacuumtubes ;D
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jpadua,
I'm planning to build an HTPC and a gaming PC to use for my 29" pixel plus. How much will it cost to have a decent set-up and can you give me the spec?
By the way I don't have any computer background so whatever you give me, I'm just going to show it to the computer shop ;D
Thanks
Hi Dongkhoi, isnt the Pixelplus just great!!! anyways it depends on how far you want to go.. but I'll tell you that in a bit, for you to be able to play stutterfree DVD and use FDshow (the post processor software I use to upscale regular DVD 720x480 to 960x720) you need a fairly strong computer. Start off with at least an Athlon XP 2000 or P4 Equivalent. The more ram the better 256 could probably do but I'd go for 512. For a video card, Nvidia is pretty good, but it doesnt support interlaced resolutions, so I'd go for a Radeon 9500 it about 8k I think, but you can do full 1080i with this one. For your sound card, as long as it has a digital spdif output. so you can use an SB Audigy. Standard DVDrom drive, and a Decent Software DVD player.
Recommended setup:
Hardware
Athlon XP 2600 or higher (the higher the better)
Nforce2 Motherboard with Spdif output (built in Audio processor)
512mb Ram
Radeon 9500 (good for games too)
Decent DVDrom Drive(I use a liteon)
Standard Hard Drive
VGA Cable Male to Male (a little bit hard to find, but keep looking you'll find one... got mine from PC Bodega)
Software
Windows XP
Theatretek Software DVD Player
FDshow post processor (free download on the web)
Powerstrip (free)
DVD Region Killer (to enable multi region)
Your all Set! Have fun!
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hi there !
where can you get the latest version of POWERSTRIP?
thanks,
-jackryan 8)
Hi Jackryan, I'm not sure of the exact website, but you can just try using google... search for Powerstrip Download... look for the latest version.
Cheers!
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jpadua, thanks for the info...so it is take the powerstrip presets and then tweak to the refreash rate of the tv..
If I read it right , you said that you are not using the pixel plus setting w/ your HTPC setup. if yes I can save a lot of money if I just by the HDTV model and hopefully get the same quality output..
also another question does the pixel plus dramaticaly improve on the normal cable broadcast....
I have a RPTV toshiba HDTV w/c looks great w/ DvD but not too good picture w/ cable reception. This one needs the dongle as it only accepts RGB thru the components input connector...
P.S. The biggest expense for the HTPC is getting a proper case so I got this one..
http://www.lian-li.com/product.php?action=viewPD&prdid=778&PHPSESSID=7247ff951778cc5b635aed52185b720c
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Hi Nirvblakr,
How do you go about getting a manager's discount? In addition, approximately how much percentage is this? I am eyeing the 34" model of pixelview :-)
thanks,
-jackryan 8)
I just recently went to Ansons ATC on the weekend. They have a 46" widescreen HD capable projection TV, I believe the price is almost the same with the 34" Pixelplus. The inputs allows progressive and VGA inputs. Plus they are offering 20% for the Display units, which arent that bad at all! Pixelplus is great, but this projection seems to be a winner for the price best of all its widescreen. No digital natural motion for this one though, unlike the pixelplus (the feature that makes the pictures look real). This is good too and worth getting for the Pixelplus. Oh and did I mention it comes with a free Home theatre in a box too? Progressive scan DVD player I believe.
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P.S. The biggest expense for the HTPC is getting a proper case so I got this one..
http://www.lian-li.com/product.php?action=viewPD&prdid=778&PHPSESSID=7247ff951778cc5b635aed52185b720c
This is quite nice and how much did you get this for???
-jackryan 8)
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jpadua, thanks for the info...so it is take the powerstrip presets and then tweak to the refreash rate of the tv..
If I read it right , you said that you are not using the pixel plus setting w/ your HTPC setup. if yes I can save a lot of money if I just by the HDTV model and hopefully get the same quality output..
also another question does the pixel plus dramaticaly improve on the normal cable broadcast....
I have a RPTV toshiba HDTV w/c looks great w/ DvD but not too good picture w/ cable reception. This one needs the dongle as it only accepts RGB thru the components input connector...
P.S. The biggest expense for the HTPC is getting a proper case so I got this one..
http://www.lian-li.com/product.php?action=viewPD&prdid=778&PHPSESSID=7247ff951778cc5b635aed52185b720c
OOOh boy do I wish I had an HTPC desktopcase! it will look good on my rack! I personally like the Coolermasters they really mix well with your Hometheatre setup. http://www.coolermaster.com/case/p620.htm
Technically you may just buy an HD only Philips TV instead of the Pixelplus and save a lot of money... I'm not very sure though but Ive heard that the previous HD TVs of philips werent that good and had problems, the newer Pixelplus line supposedly had all the bugs ironed out. I'd still go for the Pixelplus reviews are all good on this one.
With regards to cable, hmm I'm sorta iffy on that. There are a lot of factors to affect this. The cable connection is vital, some are clear some are not right? Sometimes the pixelplus is so clear that you can see all the grain and video anomalies of your cable signal... so sometimes a regular TV looks better cause its not so hi resoluution. But then again with some tweeking, like digital noise reduction, dynamic contrast, you can get a great picture on the pixelplus! it really boils down to how clean your cable conneciton is. hmmm My guess is HDTVs are too good for regular cable connections hehehehe, but then again it was really made for HD signals right? Like the magic an HTPC can do with regular DVDs :)
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jack....
cost is 8K ..but it matches the pixel plus stand perfectly
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jack....
cost is 8K ..but it matches the pixel plus stand perfectly
This case is available here!?!??!?! where? I find it so diffucult to find an aluminum desktop case here.. where did you get it? are there other designs? I WANT ONE! heheh
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Jambam,
where did you get the casing? do you have any contact info?
thanks,
-jackryan 8)
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OOOh boy do I wish I had an HTPC desktopcase! it will look good on my rack! I personally like the Coolermasters they really mix well with your Hometheatre setup. http://www.coolermaster.com/case/p620.htm
Actually this was my alternate case but there as one Lian li locally available .
where did you get the casing? do you have any contact info?
PC Trends, Inc.
Tel.(632)727-6449,727-6142; 727-6172;
Fax.No. (632)727-6241
#7 Francisco Court
1st Street, New Manila,
Quezon City, Philippines
Website:www.pctrends.com.ph
Pc trends is the local distro for Lian-li , they only had one pc , in fact it was used as a demo , so I had to ask for a discount..
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Hi Dongkhoi, isnt the Pixelplus just great!!! anyways it depends on how far you want to go.. but I'll tell you that in a bit, for you to be able to play stutterfree DVD and use FDshow (the post processor software I use to upscale regular DVD 720x480 to 960x720) you need a fairly strong computer. Start off with at least an Athlon XP 2000 or P4 Equivalent. The more ram the better 256 could probably do but I'd go for 512. For a video card, Nvidia is pretty good, but it doesnt support interlaced resolutions, so I'd go for a Radeon 9500 it about 8k I think, but you can do full 1080i with this one. For your sound card, as long as it has a digital spdif output. so you can use an SB Audigy. Standard DVDrom drive, and a Decent Software DVD player.
Recommended setup:
Hardware
Athlon XP 2600 or higher (the higher the better)
Nforce2 Motherboard with Spdif output (built in Audio processor)
512mb Ram
Radeon 9500 (good for games too)
Decent DVDrom Drive(I use a liteon)
Standard Hard Drive
VGA Cable Male to Male (a little bit hard to find, but keep looking you'll find one... got mine from PC Bodega)
Software
Windows XP
Theatretek Software DVD Player
FDshow post processor (free download on the web)
Powerstrip (free)
DVD Region Killer (to enable multi region)
Your all Set! Have fun!
Jpadua,
Thanks for the info ;D
PIXEL PLUS ROCKS ;D ;D ;D Up to now, no hang ups yet.
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oooh wow, sayang.. I hope they can re-order... I'll give them a call :) Thanks for the info! by the way I started a new thread under DVD-ROM & DVD-R, It would be nice to have an HTPC thread!
http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=17;action=display;threadid=13274;start=0#lastPost
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Actually this was my alternate case but there as one Lian li locally available .PC Trends, Inc.
Tel.(632)727-6449,727-6142; 727-6172;
Fax.No. (632)727-6241
#7 Francisco Court
1st Street, New Manila,
Quezon City, Philippines
Website:www.pctrends.com.ph
Pc trends is the local distro for Lian-li , they only had one pc , in fact it was used as a demo , so I had to ask for a discount..
by the way, I was looking at the pic of that Lian Li Desktop case, and couldnt see any ventialtion, are there any heat issues? I'm using an Athlon XP and they are known to well heat up quicker than Intel Processors. How many case fans are allowed? is it spaceous?
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How many case fans are allowed? is it spaceous?
Actually the case is still w/ my dealer, just have not picked it up yet
It has 2 fans included . I am using a micro atx board and it fits just right.
My other rig is using an athlon 1600 , it gets hot but no issues so far. this is another micro atx case w/ only the psu fan as an exhuast.
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Actually the case is still w/ my dealer, just have not picked it up yet
It has 2 fans included . I am using a micro atx board and it fits just right.
My other rig is using an athlon 1600 , it gets hot but no issues so far. this is another micro atx case w/ only the psu fan as an exhuast.
I wonder if it would fit my mobo, K7vta3 ata hmm... 8k?? sana bumaba presyo.. I really want an HTPC case
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If your mobo is micro atx it will fit, size . 9.6 x 9.6" square.. normally 3 pci slots lang..
Check out this case if you need.
http://www.directron.com/enlight7180.html (http://www.directron.com/enlight7180.html)
I was doing a lot of research on what could be avail. and this was another alternate choice. w/ cost about 2.5K ..
I think we are off topic , better we take this w/ Pm's if you want to continue further.
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If your mobo is micro atx it will fit, size . 9.6 x 9.6" square.. normally 3 pci slots lang..
Check out this case if you need.
http://www.directron.com/enlight7180.html (http://www.directron.com/enlight7180.html)
I was doing a lot of research on what could be avail. and this was another alternate choice. w/ cost about 2.5K ..
I think we are off topic , better we take this w/ Pm's if you want to continue further.
Yup I think this thread should continue here.
http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=17;action=display;threadid=11574
Sorry Mr. Moderators! :D
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Hello all PixelPlus Users, ever wanted to be able to adjust your screen vertically horizontally? besides the tilt control thats on the OSD.
There's service code that you punch in your remote to access the service menu. I used to have an iritating colored line right on the top edge of the screen whenever I use it as a computer monitor for my computer. I was able to adjust the horizontal alignment and natago ko yung line! hehehe
anyway I have the service code here, don't want to broadcast it yet, baka masira nyo TV nyo hehe sayang...
If you want the service code, ask me nalang :D
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jpadua,
PLEASE HELP :-[ I assembled my PC but the bad thing is I didn't follow your advice on the spec of an HTPC. My setup are as follows:
AMD Athlon 2.4 XP Copper Cool
Asus A7V8X 8X gp kt400 DDR
INNO3D GF4 MX440SE 64MB DDR TV
VOLCANO 6 CU+ FAN
VGA EXTENSION CABLE 6 FT.
SEAGATE 40 GIG 5400RPM
SAMSUNG COMBO 48/24/48CDRW/16X
256MB PC333 DDR
Now, the installation of the windows XP worked fine with some visible wavy lines, then when the windows was loading after the installation, it went blank.
Hindi ba kaya ng set-up ko yung resolution na kailangan ng pixelplus? the screen prompted that the pc set up resolution is set to low and asked whether to adjust the resolution to fit the current monitor (pixelplus). When we clicked yes it went blank.
Will increasing the RAM from 256 to 512 or more will do the trick? Masyado na kasing mahal kung bibili pa ako ng Raedeon na video card worth P8k right? Hindi ba enough yung videocard ko or yung setup ko ??? What should I do to make it work without incurring additional cost aside from increasing the RAM ???
I hope you can help me and also the other guru out there.
Thanks :)
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jpadua,
PLEASE HELP :-[ I assembled my PC but the bad thing is I didn't follow your advice on the spec of an HTPC. My setup are as follows:
AMD Athlon 2.4 XP Copper Cool
Asus A7V8X 8X gp kt400 DDR
INNO3D GF4 MX440SE 64MB DDR TV
VOLCANO 6 CU+ FAN
VGA EXTENSION CABLE 6 FT.
SEAGATE 40 GIG 5400RPM
SAMSUNG COMBO 48/24/48CDRW/16X
256MB PC333 DDR
Now, the installation of the windows XP worked fine with some visible wavy lines, then when the windows was loading after the installation, it went blank.
Hindi ba kaya ng set-up ko yung resolution na kailangan ng pixelplus? the screen prompted that the pc set up resolution is set to low and asked whether to adjust the resolution to fit the current monitor (pixelplus). When we clicked yes it went blank.
Will increasing the RAM from 256 to 512 or more will do the trick? Masyado na kasing mahal kung bibili pa ako ng Raedeon na video card worth P8k right? Hindi ba enough yung videocard ko or yung setup ko ??? What should I do to make it work without incurring additional cost aside from increasing the RAM ???
I hope you can help me and also the other guru out there.
Thanks :)
Hi Dongkhoi, I'll be glad to help you out, I'll answer your question in the HTPC thread, baka mapagalitan tayo ng mga mods dahil off topic na toh heheh ;D
Follow this link.
http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=17;action=display;threadid=13274;start=20
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Hi, I've read a couple of threads regarding the Pixel Plus, and I'd like to share my thoughts. I own a 29" Pixelplus. Got it about a month ago. I don't have any problems with it so far and I should say the picture quality is really great. There are a lot of connections and the great thing about it is that there are 3 component Video Inputs, 1 which has regular component video and 2 others for progressive scan input. 2 svideo connectors (one at the back and one on the side) and the greatest connector of all the RGB/VGA connector.
I have tried all the connections, and the HD connectors (progressive scan) is the best.
Pixel Plus has a built in feature called Natural Digital Motion, which makes any video signal (assuming its a clean one) well... true to life! but like I said it depends on the signal. One draw back is that you may only use this with the regular component, s-video, and composite inputs, but I should say that this is a great way to watch your over DVD's again to experience it in a different way. To give an example, my sister freaked out when she saw me watching Attack of the Clones on DNM (Digital Natural Motion) hairs standing on end... becuase the movement on the screen looked so real especially digitally animated characters like yoda. It's like movie is live and actually happening and you are looking through a glass window (drool).
The HD inputs (progressive scan) is another story. I have never seen anything so sharp. I have set up my HTPC with a direct connection to the Pixelplus Via VGA connector and its pixel perfect. Since I have the ability to totally tweek my DVD player (software and filters) I am able to achieve the best possible picture quality I could possibly imagine. I did a direct comparison, using 2 players with the same DVD. Looking at the regular DVD is already pretty good, but it suddenly looks blurred once you compare it to an HTPC using the VGA connector. All the little details, lines, facial marks, wrinkles on skin are very visible. Down to the grains of sand in Gladiator. This absolutely the best way to watch DVDs.
Final thoughts.
DNM is a great way to watch your DVD's over again. It makes everything life like, pretty freaky the first time you see it, but you'll actually enjoy it! imagine watching saving private ryan, pearlharbor, enemy at the gates... oooh. For film purists, this might not be for them, cause it takes out the film effect. Everything looks like DV, but hey I think it's cool. By the way DNM only works when pixelplus is selected on the setup menu. Pixelplus is great but I have to admit you do see some stairstepping on edges, shimmer where there is disctinct contrast, but its not as irritating as you'd think. Watching using the HD/VGA connection is still the best if you want to see DVD's in all its glory especially Superbit titles (namely 5Th element!!!) Its the sharpest you'd ever see. (this also depends on your player, I'm using an HTPC so that may also attribute to the excellent picture quality)
Oh and one more thing, when you select widescreen mode on the TV, you will see a white line stretching across from left to right. This is not a defect and according to philips that there is no way to remove this.
(this is the only thing I dont like about it) Other than that, I think my purchase was an excellent choice and I have no regrets.
I just wanted to share what I think, being a Pixelplus User, I'd want others to know what its like.
Thanks! post any questions if you want to know more about my experiences with this TV.
Hi Im planning to buy Pixel Plus instead of the HDTV 29" Philips, can you please clarify something for me. I would really appreciate it. :)
If I wanted to take advantage of the Digital Natural Motion does it mean the I have to plug in my input connector to a specific A/V connection you mentioned, which is the regular component, s-video, and composite inputs. Does it also means that if I do that I would not be able to use the pixel plus feature and progressive scan feature and vice versa?
Am I correct in assuming that you can only choose one from these features. Its either you go for DNM or Pixel Plus or Progressive Scan? Is that accurate?
Will I be able to connect my DVD unit to all three A/V inputs so I can conviniently switch to a specific input to take advantage of their respective features?
Finally which feature do you recommend I used, thanks! :)
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Hi Im planning to buy Pixel Plus instead of the HDTV 29" Philips, can you please clarify something for me. I would really appreciate it. :)
If I wanted to take advantage of the Digital Natural Motion does it mean the I have to plug in my input connector to a specific A/V connection you mentioned, which is the regular component, s-video, and composite inputs. Does it also means that if I do that I would not be able to use the pixel plus feature and progressive scan feature and vice versa?
Am I correct in assuming that you can only choose one from these features. Its either you go for DNM or Pixel Plus or Progressive Scan? Is that accurate?
Will I be able to connect my DVD unit to all three A/V inputs so I can conviniently switch to a specific input to take advantage of their respective features?
Finally which feature do you recommend I used, thanks! :)
Hi,
Yes that is correct, you can only use Digital Natural Motion when using either Regular Component, S-Video, and Composite.
(by the way to answer your quesiton DNM is a part of the pixel plus feature, progressive scan is just converts non-progressive signals into progressive using the internal scaler minus DNM)
DNM is a feature of the pixelplus... The reason the TV is called a Pixel plus is because of its internal scaler. An internal scaler is what converts standard signals into a progressive scan. DNM is a feature of the Pixel Plus's Internal Scaler only TV broadcast, Composite, S-video and regular Component use this internal scaler. If you were to choose the Progressive input, this bypasses the internal scaler since your progressive scan dvd does the scaling of the DVD into 480p instead of the TV, so no DNM effect.
DNM is a part of the TVs internal scaler. DNM converts 24fps into 30fps using motion compensation, thus giving it the Video, like real effect.
And yes you can connect your DVD into the Progressive and non Progressive Component Inputs on the TV.
Usually progressive scan DVD players have a button to turn on progressive scan. Progressive scan off on DVD - use Pixelplus with DNM, Progressive scan on on the player, switch to Progressive scan input.
For me the best is Progressive Scan Input, since this doesnt use any artifical scaling. What your DVD will be displayed in exactly how the DVD is supposed to be Viewed. My suggestion is to use DNM if you want to feel like you are in the middle of the action, and Progressive scan input if you want to watch the DVD in its pure form.
;D
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by the way, I was looking at the pic of that Lian Li Desktop case, and couldnt see any ventialtion, are there any heat issues? I'm using an Athlon XP and they are known to well heat up quicker than Intel Processors. How many case fans are allowed? is it spaceous?
Have you seen the Thermaltake full tower case? I'd choose that over the Lian Li if looks and ventilation are my main concerns. Saw it at PC Express. Around 7T.
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JPadua thank you very much for the help. It's now clearer to me. So if I used the progressive scan input for my progressive scan DVD player I would not be able to take advantage of DNM and vice versa.
The DNM demo is what convinced me to get Pixel plus in the first place and also the progressive scan feature of the DVD player which comes with the TV for free helps in convincing me too, unfortunately you can't use both of them at the same time pala. I saw Charlie's Angels being played with the DNM turned on and the picture was indeed awesome. It's really like watching it live but it does take away that movie quality away from the film.
One final question, if I would choose to use my progressive scan feature on my DVD player instead of DNM is it worth it to get this TV at all instead of the cheaper one which also is HDTV and progressive scan capable? Will it make a difference at all in term os clarity?
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'just got my new 29" pixel plus and all i can say is i am very happy with it. baka matagalan bago magpalit ulit ng tv.
jpadua, can you please pm me the service codes, thank you.
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'just got my new 29" pixel plus and all i can say is i am very happy with it. baka matagalan bago magpalit ulit ng tv.
jpadua, can you please pm me the service codes, thank you.
Just sent you a PM :)
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JPadua thank you very much for the help. It's now clearer to me. So if I used the progressive scan input for my progressive scan DVD player I would not be able to take advantage of DNM and vice versa.
The DNM demo is what convinced me to get Pixel plus in the first place and also the progressive scan feature of the DVD player which comes with the TV for free helps in convincing me too, unfortunately you can't use both of them at the same time pala. I saw Charlie's Angels being played with the DNM turned on and the picture was indeed awesome. It's really like watching it live but it does take away that movie quality away from the film.
One final question, if I would choose to use my progressive scan feature on my DVD player instead of DNM is it worth it to get this TV at all instead of the cheaper one which also is HDTV and progressive scan capable? Will it make a difference at all in term os clarity?
Actually, I also had that in mind before, why get the pixel plus over the cheaper HD only Philips, well, the older HDs had problems, and some even had bad reviews for the TV consistently having problems, but in anycase, I wanted to be sure, so I got the more expensive pixelplus.. most of the old issues with their previous HDTVS are fixed, plus it has Awsome Reviews... If you really didnt need DNM and just went for HD, if you could find a cheaper HD only TV dont go for Philips. But then again, most HD tvs na hindi philips I know of are all projection, LCD and Plasma na and no CRT.
Its nice to have the option of DNM just to impress people visitors sa bahay or to simply enjoy DVDs a whole new different way... Imagine watching Saving Private ryan... its almost like watching CNN live! hehehe anyway this TV is definately cool.
I only have a few complaints.. minor lang and sana lang Philips addressed them before releasing the Pixel Plus
1. separate Progrogressive and non Progressive inputs.
it would be nice if all the component inputs, can detect wether its standard or progressive signal so you dont need to plug your progressive scan DVD to two inputs when switching from progressive to non progressive.
(I have this problem when playing PS2 games that switch to progressive, I have to interchange inputs pa at the back, so I had to get a video switcher pa)
2. Vertical Squeeze- when you do a vertical squeeze there is a white line on the top of the sqeezed picture.
Even the old HDTVs of philips had these, it says in the manual that the TV is really like that and not a defect. But I do find it irritating, I Dont use vertical squeeze.
I think thats it! the rest.. champion TV na talaga toh.
DNM is really awsome and no other TV can do it.
I have 2 players.. HTPC and PS2
HTPC uses the HD input (no DNM) super sharp picture
PS2 uses standard component. DVD quality is good tapos naka DNM ako.
So depending on my mood, I can choose HD or DNM :D besides... DNM brings standard DVD resolution close to HD too so its also pretty sharp!
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was at ansons alabang last night. saw that the pixel plus 34" was bundled with a philips HTIB. not a bad deal :)
the philips hdtv projector wasnt bad either. much cheaper than the sony and toshiba, but whose resolution was in another league when put side to side with the others in the same "category"
wasnt impressed with the new sony DTEs though. picture is no improvement from that of the olde WEGA models that come at a cheaper price. their top of the line new 34" DRC model was sweet though. picture quality was ultra "glass like". couldn't see any grain or lines at even a close distance. the only problem with it is the price which was jacked up just because the thing comes with a Sony memory stick port. dont think a memory stick port warrants the exorbitant price
value for your money and sure ball quality would mean going for the pixel plus and the hdtv IMHO
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Hi! I have noticed in my friend's Pixel Plus that when we watch cable TV the edges of pictures aren't as sharp and refined. Is this because Pixel Plus was made for HD Broadcasts and not compatible with our present analog cable signals here?
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Hi! I have noticed in my friend's Pixel Plus that when we watch cable TV the edges of pictures aren't as sharp and refined. Is this because Pixel Plus was made for HD Broadcasts and not compatible with our present analog cable signals here?
Actually the pixel plus is only a HDTV monitor, so it does not have the ATSC tuner built in, you need a set top box, to connect to the HD input on the TV. Pixel plus has a built in NTSC Tuner which is for regular analog Cable broadcasts. Although you are correct, I can also see that its not as sharp when using cable, hmmm although it could be my cable connection. When I turn off all special features like, sharpening, Dynamic Contrast, Color Enhancement and Digital Noise reduction... the picture is grainy... I'm switching to another Cable company.. which I know is much clearer than Destiny.. malabo talaga ang reception ng destiny and sky cable ang linaw compared to it.
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jpadua,
Im looking for a new TV. Im looking at the 34" Akira or TCL but if I go for Philips most probably I will be getting a 29" only. Based from your explanation do I have to get a Pixel Plus model if it is only for HDTV? How do you explain about the DRC of Sony compared to Philips and when and how do you use these features? Thanks
Levi
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jpadua,
Im looking for a new TV. Im looking at the 34" Akira or TCL but if I go for Philips most probably I will be getting a 29" only. Based from your explanation do I have to get a Pixel Plus model if it is only for HDTV? How do you explain about the DRC of Sony compared to Philips and when and how do you use these features? Thanks
Levi
Hi Levi
Actually it really depends on what you want to get it for,
Lets skip the Akira and the TCL... you want a TV that can support progressive scan, you might just end up buying another TV ma bitin ka lang sa hindi progressive.
So Pixel Plus or Sony.. this is another issue, Pixel Plus is an upgraded version of their recent HDTV only Model, which had a lot of problems daw. So if you are after only the HDTV lang I dont suggest you get the philips, go with Sony.. Although I'm not so familiar with Sony, just make sure that it can handle 480p 720p or 1080i
and also very important is that it has a VGA connector at the back. The VGA connector allows HDTV Set Top Boxes to be connected to your HDTV in the future. If your HDTV does not have a vga input, you might have to buy a VGA to Component Transcoder which is not readily available here and is expensive. What ever you decide, just make sure your TV has a VGA input at the back... this will allow future upgrades to your player and set top box. The pixel plus is not a bad choice either if you want a CRT based TV for the price.
I was comparing a sony DRC29" of the same price and the Pixel plus kicks ass... pixel plus has progressive scan, regular component, VGA in... has Digital Natural Motion (which makes regular component and s-video and composite signals look lifelike)
pts to remember...
VGA in (RGB)
Progressive Scan input 480p
HDTV output 720p 1080i
Hope this helps you make your decision :)
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So Pixel Plus or Sony.. this is another issue, Pixel Plus is an upgraded version of their recent HDTV only Model, which had a lot of problems daw.
I can vouch for the problems. I bought a 29" Philips HDTV Matchline TV and I couldnt get the other component to work. Neither could Philips Philippines & they made me try out 2 other sets. All duds. It was really a bad experience for me and wasted my time. Just show how primitive customer-oriented service is here in the Philippines is.
So if you are after only the HDTV lang I dont suggest you get the philips, go with Sony.. Although I'm not so familiar with Sony, just make sure that it can handle 480p 720p or 1080i
and also very important is that it has a VGA connector at the back. The VGA connector allows HDTV Set Top Boxes to be connected to your HDTV in the future. If your HDTV does not have a vga input, you might have to buy a VGA to Component Transcoder which is not readily available here and is expensive. What ever you decide, just make sure your TV has a VGA input at the back... this will allow future upgrades to your player and set top box. The pixel plus is not a bad choice either if you want a CRT based TV for the price.
Image at Harisson Plaza is offering the Sony 36"XBR800 for P125-130K. Only drawback with this set is the weight. I think it's about 230lbs. You'd need at least 4 people to help you lug that thing around.
I was comparing a sony DRC29" of the same price and the Pixel plus kicks ass... pixel plus has progressive scan, regular component, VGA in... has Digital Natural Motion (which makes regular component and s-video and composite signals look lifelike)
pts to remember...
VGA in (RGB)
Progressive Scan input 480p
HDTV output 720p 1080i
Hope this helps you make your decision :)
I havent had any experience with the Pixel Plus but a lot of review magazines love it. Question is what type of service can you expect from Philips. If you're considering getting the Pixel Plus Philips is offering a 16:9 model. Perfect for anamorphic widescreen DVD viewing. :)
jpadua: dude how did you manage to get the extra lines of resolution out of your DVD? If I recall correctly NTSC DVDs only support up to 720 x 480.
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jpadua,
Im looking for a new TV. Im looking at the 34" Akira or TCL but if I go for Philips most probably I will be getting a 29" only. Based from your explanation do I have to get a Pixel Plus model if it is only for HDTV? How do you explain about the DRC of Sony compared to Philips and when and how do you use these features? Thanks
Levi
The current gen Sony DRCs can convert any Video source into progressive scan. It also serves as a line multiplyer. It also accept progressive scan signals from any source may it be a DVD video player or current gen game console.
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and also very important is that it has a VGA connector at the back. The VGA connector allows HDTV Set Top Boxes to be connected to your HDTV in the future.
or DVI input
I was comparing a sony DRC29" of the same price and the Pixel plus kicks ass... pixel plus has progressive scan, regular component, VGA in... has Digital Natural Motion (which makes regular component and s-video and composite signals look lifelike)
then ull be happy to learn that the new philips sets feature a revamped version of PixelPlus...
http://www.homecinemachoice.com/news/frame.html?http://www.homecinemachoice.com/cgi-bin/displaynews.php?id=4194
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The current gen Sony DRCs can convert any Video source into progressive scan. It also serves as a line multiplyer. It also accept progressive scan signals from any source may it be a DVD video player or current gen game console.
This is what Im looking for. Something like a line doubler that would convert any source to progressive scan. Is the Pixel Plus the same function as the DRC or the DNM? Does this Progressive scan feature of Sony and Philips the same for all models of TV that are equipped with DRC and Pixel Plus? Is there an advantage getting newer models compared to older models in terms of function( prog scan ) other than looks. Im not yet after the HDTV because I doubt if we will have this for the next 5 years and I dont want to spend too much for the TV. I just want to upgrade my set to a bigger TV that is why Im also considering the 34" unknown brands as long they have component input or stick with a 29 but prog scan and better brand.
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This is what Im looking for. Something like a line doubler that would convert any source to progressive scan. Is the Pixel Plus the same function as the DRC or the DNM? Does this Progressive scan feature of Sony and Philips the same for all models of TV that are equipped with DRC and Pixel Plus? Is there an advantage getting newer models compared to older models in terms of function( prog scan ) other than looks. Im not yet after the HDTV because I doubt if we will have this for the next 5 years and I dont want to spend too much for the TV. I just want to upgrade my set to a bigger TV that is why Im also considering the 34" unknown brands as long they have component input or stick with a 29 but prog scan and better brand.
Hi levi,
I actually dont use the DRC1250 (line multiplyer. I preffer DRC progressive as the images from VCD, SVCD or DVDs rarely, if ever, shakes. The image using either DRC1250 or progressive is still dense. I dont see the black gaps between the lines. The problem with my DRC-MF is that if it isn't well encoded (high bitrate) SVCD or p* DVD (DVD-5) disc the image looks awful. My DRC-less Wega looks better when the source isn't that great. Heck a 15" Singer TV beats the crap out of my DRC-MF when it comes to SVCDs. Ang ganda. It beats the Solar showing of Star Trek DS9
Actually you only need pscan when your monitor's bigger than 27" so if you're planning to get a 34" I'd suggest the 34" ver of my set. It's going for 105T last time I checked with Image at Harrison.
If i didn't get my X1 projector I would have swapped my 29" DRC-MF for a 36" XBR800. I would get the pixel plus but my experience with philips and there local reseller left a bad taste in my mouth.
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This is what Im looking for. Something like a line doubler that would convert any source to progressive scan. Is the Pixel Plus the same function as the DRC or the DNM? Does this Progressive scan feature of Sony and Philips the same for all models of TV that are equipped with DRC and Pixel Plus? Is there an advantage getting newer models compared to older models in terms of function( prog scan ) other than looks. Im not yet after the HDTV because I doubt if we will have this for the next 5 years and I dont want to spend too much for the TV. I just want to upgrade my set to a bigger TV that is why Im also considering the 34" unknown brands as long they have component input or stick with a 29 but prog scan and better brand.
Yeah the pixelplus has its own line doubler, whatever you plug into the set, its automatically converted to progressive scan.
The Pixel Plus has two kinds of built in scalers
There is an option for Progressive Scan and Pixel Plus
The progressive scan option simply converts any signal into progressive (normal 480i is now single scanned into 480p). really good too. Pixelplus option uses the Pixelplus scaler which also includes DNM and upsampling of the pixels: here are the comparisons:
Standard NTSC
Vertical - 525 Horizontal -720
pixelplus
Vertical - 2048 Horizontal - 1050
HDTV
Vertical - 1920 Horizontal - 1050
As you can see the upsampling of the pixel plus is really huge, you can really see the difference in clarity when you switch on the Pixelplus Demo, colors are more vibrant, detail is much sharper (you can actually see the skin pores on the actors in a movie hehehe) really sharp!
So the Pixelplus actually does a really good job in upconverting standard NTSC signals into Progressive whether be it uses the Progressive Scan Option or the Pixel Plus option.
I'm not so sure about the service, according to Dviant the service daw isnt great, but I guess I never really had to deal with service cause the Pixel plus was great out of the box. Beware lang talaga of the Older models, dahil maraming complaints about it.. so far sa lahat ng na research ko, pixelplus has great reviews, and no problems that Ive heard of so far.
If you want more info about the pixel plus this is the
official website:
http://www.pixelplus.philips.com/index_main.htm
If you can find the 16:9 version, thats way better pa... Too bad I already asked a philips rep, and they said they dont sell that daw in the philippines kasi daw ang market dito is mostly for 4:3 daw... but I'm hoping i pasok nila since most RPTVs being sold here are mostly widescreen. CRTs wala pa akong nakikita.
Oh and also, if you plan to use the TV lang for the Sound, it comes built in with Dolby Pro Logic... and has and option for Rear surrounds. Ive tried it na.. pretty good too :)
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jpadua: dude how did you manage to get the extra lines of resolution out of your DVD? If I recall correctly NTSC DVDs only support up to 720 x 480.
Good question friend! Regular Component Inputs (NTSC) is natively 720x480. The RGB input is natively for HDTV set top boxes which is either 720p or 1080i
These are higher resolutions than the standard 720x480
by using the HDTV input, I am able to use higher resolutions. Particularly 960x540p (540p is the same as 1080i only progressive)
Currently I am emulating the same output frequency of an HDTV Set Top box by using the Video card on my PC.
HDTV Broadcast:
ATSC Signal -->Set Top Box -->HDTV Frequency-->HDTV monitor
Upsampled DVD:
DVD Source-->HTPC video Scaler-->HDTV Frequency-->HDTV monitor
I am basically emulating a Set Top Box and using Regular DVDs as my Video Source. ;D
Another issue, DVD's are natively 720x480 right? With software I am able to upsample the current resolution to 1440x960, and my Video Card translates it into an acceptable HDTV frequency and resolution of 960x540p
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or DVI inputthen ull be happy to learn that the new philips sets feature a revamped version of PixelPlus...
http://www.homecinemachoice.com/news/frame.html?http://www.homecinemachoice.com/cgi-bin/displaynews.php?id=4194
Waaaaaaah! another Pixelplus!? this is great news for those planning to buy a new TV as for me nakabili na ako! heheh pero ok lang... I'm happy with my pixelplus naman eh ;D
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JPadua,
Thank you very much for the info. Im only planning to get a 29" if ever I choose Sony or Philips. At least I get to understand more about the Prog Scan of Philips.
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nah dun worry bout it, i doubt if the new pixelplus will reach our shores anytime soon (indi pa nga ata available overseas). baka labas na yung ps3 wala pa yang bagong pp dito, hehehe.
Waaaaaaah! another Pixelplus!? this is great news for those planning to buy a new TV as for me nakabili na ako! heheh pero ok lang... I'm happy with my pixelplus naman eh ;D
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JPadua,
Thank you very much for the info. Im only planning to get a 29" if ever I choose Sony or Philips. At least I get to understand more about the Prog Scan of Philips.
Hi Levi, have you decided on a TV yet? get na the 34" para di ka mabitin! :D
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Im only planning to spend 30-40T for the TV so my only option would be a 29 or if I decide to get a 34, I can only get an Akira or TCL. Im still checking if they have components input but I just have to give up the Prog Scan features. I went to Sights and Sound this afternoon and they were offering Sony 29M66, They said its DRC equipped but I need to check the features. They dont have stock of Pixel Plus only older Philips.
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JPadua can you please send me the service code for the Pixel Plus, Thanks.
How do I know if my DVD is progressive kasi the one that comes with the TV LX2000D - I think is not progressive. Its the one with a built-in amplifier and radio tuner and with 6 speakers.
Another thing, in the instruction manual it was mention when connecting the cable to the TV - "For best picture quality use the supressor-aerial cable supplied" what is a supressor-aerial cable, there was no other cable only the male-male coax cable that comes with the TV.
Thanks.
P.S. The TV is AWESOME, when it comes to playing DVD atleast. The clarity is mind blowing I watched Ice Age, Shreck and Fifth Element wala akong masabi sobrang linaw. But the Cable TV reception is another story medyo noisy ang picture even when DNR is in maximum. I hope I can find a way to improve the Cable TV picture.
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is the 29pt8419 matchline hdtv 29' a good buy at 49.8k with free philips progressive scan dvd player? been thinking about it. kasi
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is the 29pt8419 matchline hdtv 29' a good buy at 49.8k with free philips progressive scan dvd player? been thinking about it. kasi
prog scan dvd na pala ang free niya. Ive got the same tv last jan pro ang free niya ang HTiB. That was a good catch kasi the HTiB alone cost around 20K kahit hanggang ngayon with free upgrades pa kasi initially the dvd can only read R3 and P***disk then me umbrella pa ;D.
Good buy na yan pre, If the prog scan dvd player was offered to me before malamang iyan ang kinuha ko kasi di ko rin nagagamit ang speakers ng free HTib ko ngayon. The TV itself is a prog scan na rin eh.
pero kung kaya mo pang i-stretch budget mo better get the pixel plus it's the best
What's the model of the free prog scan dvd player?
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i think its the 727. the pixel plus is almost twice the price eh of this model. at this rate, i mite just wait for them to bargain that model na lang.
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is the 29pt8419 matchline hdtv 29' a good buy at 49.8k with free philips progressive scan dvd player? been thinking about it. kasi
Hi Diagoro, based on reviews I've read about the older Philips HDTVs, it might not be a good buy. Some say they are problematic. If you are really ready to splurge, I suggest you go for the PixelPlus, they have covered most of the bugs from their previous models, and has excellent reviews. I have one.. and I have no complaints, a few small hindrances but the pros outweigh the cons. And if you can splurge even more.. get the 34" baka mabitin ka sa 29" I'm happy with it, but I'd have to admit, I wish it were a 34" di lang nakayanan ng budget ko hehehe.
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first of all i just bought my tv last january before buying, i looked around for what suit my taste within my working budget, im looking a 34 or 36 incher flat crt tv, why crt ? simply because of picture quality, black level, and stuff.
we (me and my audition buddy name ORVEN) first we saw sony drc 34 and philips pixel plus together so we ask the salesboy to demo us both tv using one source with splitter to compare the picture quality, and wow the pixel plus have the advantage when it comes to detailed pictures but you can see artifacts with it , which is for me a big turn off and really annoying. and the SONY DRC much less detailed picture but no artifacts. (but i didnt buy the sony drc)
when i san the sony 36inch xbr 800 series , i fell in love with it .
picture quality is far superior than the asian counterpart DRC SERIES (Picture more redish).
plus a memory stick slot for picture viewer. and 7 video inputs, styling wise different than drc (better looking) hdtv ready, and only negative thing is it is only NTSC unlike DRC is multisystem. and really heavy about 220lbs.
audition for this unit, wont let u dont
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jpadua can you please send me the Pixel Plus service code please. Or can you tell me where I can get them from. Thanks
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Jpadua,
Would you know if DNM is a third party technology under license with Philips or it is more of a proprietary technology that we won't ever get from the likes of Sony in the near future.
I think that is the main selling point of Philips Pixel Plus units --- digital natural motion (DNM).
-jackryan 8)
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Jpadua,
Would you know if DNM is a third party technology under license with Philips or it is more of a proprietary technology that we won't ever get from the likes of Sony in the near future.
I think that is the main selling point of Philips Pixel Plus units --- digital natural motion (DNM).
-jackryan 8)
I think it's proprietary, every company has their own special features for added market pull and I believe DNM is a philips only thing, I could be wrong, pero DNM has been out for about 2 yrs na havent heard anything like it from Sony. In anycase, if a TV claims to have Motion Judder Elimination, then that should be similar to DNM, the only product I know with motion judder eliminator would be DScaler (software) for TV PC/TV cards, but still not as good as DNM of the PixelPlus.
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jpadua can you please send me the Pixel Plus service code please. Or can you tell me where I can get them from. Thanks
USE AT YOUR OWN RISK-- but of course you should know what you're doin when you tweek right? heheh so here it is...
Press the power off button on the remote. As soon as the TV shuts down key in 062596 + on the remote.
On some remotes, instead of you have to hit the [menu] See what works... if the code doesnt work you can try these:
162596 + - adjustment mode
062597 + - convergence mode
The TV should turn on, but with the service menu open.
Look for the geometry settings... you should only tweek that area for the moving the picture around. Since I am not familiar with the others settings, Id rather not touch them cause I might screw up the TV hehe.
Always remember original settings before you change anything so you know where to put it back to incase of problems.
kakahiya naman if you have it serviced cause of a setup screw up hehehe.
Happy Tweaking!
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tanong lang ulit bago gawin, pag nakapasok ka na sa setup at nag-tweak ka na, paano ka naman lalabas ng setup? thanks :)
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tanong lang ulit bago gawin, pag nakapasok ka na sa setup at nag-tweak ka na, paano ka naman lalabas ng setup? thanks :)
make sure to save settings first.. tapos i power off and on mo lang yung TV
Jay
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USE AT YOUR OWN RISK-- but of course you should know what you're doin when you tweek right? heheh so here it is...
Press the power off button on the remote. As soon as the TV shuts down key in 062596 + on the remote.
On some remotes, instead of you have to hit the [menu] See what works... if the code doesnt work you can try these:
162596 + - adjustment mode
062597 + - convergence mode
The TV should turn on, but with the service menu open.
Look for the geometry settings... you should only tweek that area for the moving the picture around. Since I am not familiar with the others settings, Id rather not touch them cause I might screw up the TV hehe.
Always remember original settings before you change anything so you know where to put it back to incase of problems.
kakahiya naman if you have it serviced cause of a setup screw up hehehe.
Happy Tweaking!
Thanks a lot. My only concern for tweaking is the horizontal alignment medyo curvy yung pic lalo na pag letterbox halatang halata.
Thanks again :)
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I really hope that I am in the right thread this time. The XBR-800 was mentioned here a while back. Anyway, i am deciding among a 34" Philips Pixel Plus (with stand and a supposedly HTIB thrown in for free), a Sony KV-DR34 (with only the stand thrown in for free), and a 36" XBR-800 (with no stand and no freebies whatsover). Listening in Style informed me that the 36" XBR-800 is 110volts, takes only NTSC (US) and original stand will cost around 20k). Question now is what are the pros and cons to purchasing the 36" XBR-800 (it appeared to me to have the best display of DVD material)? Are the other two better alternatives considering that I will be watching around 80% cable feed and only 20% Movies via DVD?
Would really appreciate your thoughts on this.
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I really hope that I am in the right thread this time. The XBR-800 was mentioned here a while back. Anyway, i am deciding among a 34" Philips Pixel Plus (with stand and a supposedly HTIB thrown in for free), a Sony KV-DR34 (with only the stand thrown in for free), and a 36" XBR-800 (with no stand and no freebies whatsover). Listening in Style informed me that the 36" XBR-800 is 110volts, takes only NTSC (US) and original stand will cost around 20k). Question now is what are the pros and cons to purchasing the 36" XBR-800 (it appeared to me to have the best display of DVD material)? Are the other two better alternatives considering that I will be watching around 80% cable feed and only 20% Movies via DVD?
Would really appreciate your thoughts on this.
with regards to XBR800 pros & cons, you can ask critical listener as he has one. the only cons i can think of as this moment is the $$$price being a sony tv. being a pixel plus owner, i'm satisfied for now kasi tumigil muna ako ng kaa-upgrade. pixel plus was my 3rd tv in 7 months. cguro kung magkapera ulit, baka mag-upgrade sa pixel plus widescreen.
shalom :)
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Thanks Shalom
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I really hope that I am in the right thread this time. The XBR-800 was mentioned here a while back. Anyway, i am deciding among a 34" Philips Pixel Plus (with stand and a supposedly HTIB thrown in for free), a Sony KV-DR34 (with only the stand thrown in for free), and a 36" XBR-800 (with no stand and no freebies whatsover). Listening in Style informed me that the 36" XBR-800 is 110volts, takes only NTSC (US) and original stand will cost around 20k). Question now is what are the pros and cons to purchasing the 36" XBR-800 (it appeared to me to have the best display of DVD material)? Are the other two better alternatives considering that I will be watching around 80% cable feed and only 20% Movies via DVD?
Would really appreciate your thoughts on this.
are you married to a lawyer ba? ::)
kasi i gave this same advice to an ex-colleague who is a lawyer rin... ::) ;D
If you have more than enough funds, then go for Sony's XBR. If not, you may want to reconsider the Philips Pixel Plus. The reason is that if you buy less than what you can really afford there is still that psychological issue that you want there best out there and bleeding edge at that doesn't matter as long as you get the most latest model.
I hope this helps.
-jackryan 8)
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JackRyan,
Yes I am. Thanks for your thoughts. Only drawback to XBR is that there seems to be no matching stand available in the market right now.
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JackRyan,
Yes I am. Thanks for your thoughts. Only drawback to XBR is that there seems to be no matching stand available in the market right now.
Pixelplus ka na! give in to the Dark Side hehehe
Jay - Pixelplus Addict
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Aha... so I know you siguro ! ;-)
Kamusta na lang sa lawyer wifey mo... I am sure you can convince her being one yourself... you can use me and jay for witness in support of your upcoming addiction.
Btw, hanap pa ako buyer ng Sony RPTV ko para maging Pixel addict na rin ako na certified...
::)
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Aha... so I know you siguro ! ;-)
Kamusta na lang sa lawyer wifey mo... I am sure you can convince her being one yourself... you can use me and jay for witness in support of your upcoming addiction.
Btw, hanap pa ako buyer ng Sony RPTV ko para maging Pixel addict na rin ako na certified...
::)
JackRyan... right you are! give in to the Darkside!
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dayday,
by any chance you belong to the serapio, medieldea, de borja law firm? think i've heard of a lawyer named dayday from that firm :)
anyway. did you decide to get the pixel plus or xbr? xbr 36" is going for P130K at listening room btw
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JackRyan,
I will use you as a vital witness. Will try to find a buyer for your RPTV. PM me your price please.
By the way, can you help me install a LAN in my office?
Is there a 36" Pixel Plus? If so, can you buy one here?
BunkieBoy
Yes I did use to work for that Firm. Anyway, did see the XBR-800 over at Listening in Style. Only reason why I am more interested in it right now that the Pixel Plus is the size. Hope that I can a source for the matching stand (SU-36XBR8).
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Suggest ko lang go for a wireless LAN na lang... I'll pm you my price for the RPTV.
As for the Pixel, I think locally 34" lang... I am waiting for the next model release... baka by December andito na yun... right now... naka-post na sa Philips website eh.
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Jack Ryan,
can you pm me the price, too :)
thnx much..
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Hi guys,
I'm new here and I'm glad I found this board. I just bought a Pixel Plus myself. It will be delivered this Saturday. The free HTIB that came with it is an LX2000D. But I saw the LX3700D and it has Pro Logic II, which I need for my PS2 and GameCube. I've decided to upgrade (with additional charge), but is the LX2000D good or better in sounds? The guy was telling me it is bec. of the active sub, coz 3700 only has passive. Can anyone help me out if I should shell out P2000 for the upgrade (i haven't paid the add'l yet, upon delivery na yun) mainly for my gaming need or to simply stick with the free LX2000D. And am I being duped by the sales guy since he originally told me na 1000 lang ang add'l? Then when I came to buy, he increased it to 2000, yun daw ang gusto ng Philips. Does anyone know how much LX2000D is?
Thanks in advanced!
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Hi guys,
I'm new here and I'm glad I found this board. I just bought a Pixel Plus myself. It will be delivered this Saturday. The free HTIB that came with it is an LX2000D. But I saw the LX3700D and it has Pro Logic II, which I need for my PS2 and GameCube. I've decided to upgrade (with additional charge), but is the LX2000D good or better in sounds? The guy was telling me it is bec. of the active sub, coz 3700 only has passive. Can anyone help me out if I should shell out P2000 for the upgrade (i haven't paid the add'l yet, upon delivery na yun) mainly for my gaming need or to simply stick with the free LX2000D. And am I being duped by the sales guy since he originally told me na 1000 lang ang add'l? Then when I came to buy, he increased it to 2000, yun daw ang gusto ng Philips. Does anyone know how much LX2000D is?
Thanks in advanced!
Hi Miroku, welcome to Pinoy DVD! I think my very first post was also here in the pixelplus thread. I own one too, but its only 29" the HTIB that came with it isnt progressive scan but I believe it was worth 19,000. Kasi I checked the store if they sold it separately and the list price was 19,000. I dont know if it's the same as the LX2000D.
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Hi jpadua,
Thanks for the welcome. I actually called up some of the store's branches and other stores and the price I got of 2000d is only 1,000 less than lx3700d. So i informed the sales guy about it, and finally, he agreed to let me have the upgrade without paying any cent! that's great considering it has full range speakers compared to 2000d's satellites. BTW, I also have a 29". That's big enough for my room. :)
I'm currently enjoying Pixel Plus. It's incredible when you watch DVD, but for cable, there are some channels that have terrible colors and some noise (probably the Pixel Plus made the noise more obvious since it makes the picture sharper?) Nonetheless, I am happy with it. The lx3700d home theater cranks out average to above average sounds (DTS is still best). But still, it was free and you can't expect any super powerful performance from an HTIB.
I highly recommend Pixel Plus if you watch a lot of DVD's. You won't want to watch movies ever again. I plan to skip Pirates of the Caribbean and wait for the DVD to come out! Hehe! ;D
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Jpadua and the rest of pixelplus fanatics :D i'm not sure if this question has been asked before.. which is better: Progressive scan mode or Pixel plus? Can you do both at the same time?
Are there cable requirements to maximize the feature of pixel plus or pscan such as Component or S-Video cables?
I have been converted now from a Sony DRC fan to a PixelPlus ;D
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Jpadua and the rest of pixelplus fanatics :D i'm not sure if this question has been asked before.. which is better: Progressive scan mode or Pixel plus? Can you do both at the same time?
Are there cable requirements to maximize the feature of pixel plus or pscan such as Component or S-Video cables?
I have been converted now from a Sony DRC fan to a PixelPlus ;D
Before anything else, I just saw a 36" Pixelplus widescreen CRT in Ansons Alabang for 199K tulo laway ko!!!!! arrrgh anywayz.,.. to the question
I assume you are talking about the Digital Feature of the pixel plus (progressive scan/Pixelplus).
first of best cable to use would be component.
next its a matter of taste, to use progressive or pixelplus.
Progressive just makes any analog signal into progressive. You still have the same film like quality.
Pixelplus, Doubles the resolution, and adds Digital Natural Motion which in effect makes any analog siglanl look like video at 30 frames per second.. you lose the film style... if you watch a DVD film, it would look like watching from a DV cam.
So like I said its a matter of taste lang.. if you want to see it the way the director intended then progressive is ok. If you want to view it a whole different way.. then use Pixelplus. You can switch naman anytime. :)
Hope this helps
Jpaaaaduaaaah
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Jpadua and the rest of pixelplus fanatics :D i'm not sure if this question has been asked before.. which is better: Progressive scan mode or Pixel plus? Can you do both at the same time?
Are there cable requirements to maximize the feature of pixel plus or pscan such as Component or S-Video cables?
I have been converted now from a Sony DRC fan to a PixelPlus ;D
Hi, that was my concern too when I got myself the Philips Pixel Plus TV. As JPadua explains, when watching DVDs on this TV you can only choose one of the feature either you see it with the progressive scan feature or Pixel Plus Mode with DNM.
In my case I prefer watching DVDs in Pixel Plus mode because that's the whole point why I bought this TV in the first place and it is what caught my attention when I was window shopping. The coolest feature of the Pixel Plus is the Digital Natural Motion at first it will give you that feeling of watching videos instead of movies but you'll love it and appreciate it way before the movie ends believe me.
Hope you will enjoy your new set as we did. This TV really make me a believer in Phillips TV. Like you I was planning on getting the Sony DRC TV but as soon as I saw Philips Pixel Plus quality I forgot about Sony instantly.
One more thing the preset video adjustment sucks personalize them maybe try to stay close to the middle of the contrast, bright and color it works best for me and minimize the active control, just a suggestion.
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I'm one of those Pixel Plus fanatics. :) You can only choose between progressive and pixel plus, and both cannot be turned off nor can they be used at the same time. When watching Cable TV I use Pixel Plus as the Progressive mode give certain images some jagged edges (aliasing problems). The drawback is if there's any degradation in signal (i.e. during heavy rains), the noise or "snow" also becomes more obvious. Pixel Plus presents everything clearer, it makes you see objects (including noise) that are otherwise not visible on ordinary TV.
As I learned from Pixel Plus guru jpadua, and testing it for myself, using component cable with Pixel Plus mode is still better than using composite (RCA) cable with Pixel Plus (even if the TV can turn the latter's signal into progressive).
Is you use component cable for your player, connecting it to the 480 interlaced input (AV1) will only allow you to use the TV's internal digital processor (Pixel Plus or Progressive). The Pixel Plus gives the picture a digital look, like a digital home video, that seems almost 3D. Some purists don't like this as it removes the video's film-like quality.
If you have a progressive player, try using the player's progressive feature and connect the component cable into AV3 or AV4 (480p). This bypasses the TV's scaler. It does look more natural, but during special effects like fire, I can't get the same ooomph as Pixel Plus.
Try to experiment, even try connecting your PC to the vga port just to see what this baby can do. As for the picture and sound adjustments, I agree with Big Boy, try configuring your own. I never liked any of the preset ones. Besides, this will give you ideas on how to tinker with the TV according to your taste.
That's it, now enjoy Pixel Plus! :)
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I'm one of those Pixel Plus fanatics. :) You can only choose between progressive and pixel plus, and both cannot be turned off nor can they be used at the same time. When watching Cable TV I use Pixel Plus as the Progressive mode give certain images some jagged edges (aliasing problems). The drawback is if there's any degradation in signal (i.e. during heavy rains), the noise or "snow" also becomes more obvious. Pixel Plus presents everything clearer, it makes you see objects (including noise) that are otherwise not visible on ordinary TV.
As I learned from Pixel Plus guru jpadua, and testing it for myself, using component cable with Pixel Plus mode is still better than using composite (RCA) cable with Pixel Plus (even if the TV can turn the latter's signal into progressive).
Is you use component cable for your player, connecting it to the 480 interlaced input (AV1) will only allow you to use the TV's internal digital processor (Pixel Plus or Progressive). The Pixel Plus gives the picture a digital look, like a digital home video, that seems almost 3D. Some purists don't like this as it removes the video's film-like quality.
If you have a progressive player, try using the player's progressive feature and connect the component cable into AV3 or AV4 (480p). This bypasses the TV's scaler. It does look more natural, but during special effects like fire, I can't get the same ooomph as Pixel Plus.
Try to experiment, even try connecting your PC to the vga port just to see what this baby can do. As for the picture and sound adjustments, I agree with Big Boy, try configuring your own. I never liked any of the preset ones. Besides, this will give you ideas on how to tinker with the TV according to your taste.
That's it, now enjoy Pixel Plus! :)
I personally have both options open 2 me, If I want the best DVD picture and quality, I use the HTPC connected via VGA. Sometimes I feel that I want to watch the Movie differently (DNM) then I use my regular DVD player hooked up through Component. Right now I'm playing with a new toy, I have a new Asus TV card with the latest Philips TV Decoder Chip. Now I'm watching cable through, VGA using the HTPC as a scaler (bypassing the TV's internal scaler again). I have a much sharper picture watching TV. Cinemax is so clear almost like watching a DVD... native 720x480 scaled to 1280x1024i sweet!
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darn good :) thank you all! Pixelplus DNM is really a whole new way of watching DVDs.. it feels like you are inside the film itself.. or like jpadua said, you are watching from a DVCAM.. it's unbelievable! Planning to buy one pa lang this Christmas :) ipon muna ako.. thanks for all the inputs guys.. i'll be ready when i have the unit. (sana hindi maubos by that time).. heheheh :)
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darn good :) thank you all! Pixelplus DNM is really a whole new way of watching DVDs.. it feels like you are inside the film itself.. or like jpadua said, you are watching from a DVCAM.. it's unbelievable! Planning to buy one pa lang this Christmas :) ipon muna ako.. thanks for all the inputs guys.. i'll be ready when i have the unit. (sana hindi maubos by that time).. heheheh :)
Hintay intay ka lang, I heard na may bagong pixelplus na lalabas which suposedly improves on the current pixel plus... I think its called the pixel plus 2 or something. I'm sure thats probably another gian leap for the pixelplus technology.
I just saw a 36" widescreen pixel plus! yun talaga naglalaway ako!!!! pero sasakit ulo mo sa presyo 200k!!! omy gad!!! Halos Plasma na yung presyo.. pero of course Id still get this over a plasma... Kung kaya mong pag ipunan ang 200k heheheh mag 16:9 pixel plus ka na! heheheheh don't we all wish we could!
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Hi Jpadua,
Would you know if the 32" Widescreen Pixel Plus is also available? 'Cause when I bought mine, I asked if there will be a widescreen and the saleman told me that a 32" will be available at around 150-160K. A friend of mine is interested after seeing the quality of my TV, but he wants widescreen na hindi kasing mahal ng 36" widescreen you mentioned. For 200K, I'd definitely go Plasma. ;)
As for Pixel Plus 2, I read that they plan to introduce it next year, most probably mid next year the earliest. I would assume that this time, it will not be HDTV-ready, but it will already have an HDTV tuner built in. As for quality it's just hard to imagine how they're gonna top the current gen. An ability to remove artifacting on older movie would be nice. :D Sana hindi ako magsisi na hindi ako naghintay. ;D
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Nakita ko kahapon tong 36" widescreen sa ATC....at naka 0% interest installment pa for BPI, Citibank etc....KAINIS!!!...la rin sagad na cards ko eh.....sana hanggang December tong promo
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Nakita ko kahapon tong 36" widescreen sa ATC....at naka 0% interest installment pa for BPI, Citibank etc....KAINIS!!!...la rin sagad na cards ko eh.....sana hanggang December tong promo
Yup Tulo Laway Ko! its 198k! mahal! but you should also checkout the Samsung DLP RPTV hayop its 199k pero 60" Widescreen, picture quality is excellent and its really slim for an RPTV about a foot wide. Has DVI and VGA. And very clear in various viewing angles. I'd get this over a plasma any day.
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OT ang question ko sa thread. Bakit sa sm appliance center (powerplant) 240k ang 61" na samsung dlp, tapos yung 50" is 199k or 200k. Lahat 0% interest for 12months. Or you are referring to 50" not the 61" or talagang mas mura lang dyan sa tinignan mo.
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OT ang question ko sa thread. Bakit sa sm appliance center (powerplant) 240k ang 61" na samsung dlp, tapos yung 50" is 199k or 200k. Lahat 0% interest for 12months. Or you are referring to 50" not the 61" or talagang mas mura lang dyan sa tinignan mo.
oops my bad! tama ka its the 50"
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How much is cheapest pixelplus 29" out in the market? exclusive of home theater packages.. tv only.. thanks!
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How much is cheapest pixelplus 29" out in the market? exclusive of home theater packages.. tv only.. thanks!
Try & check out the jbl dealer in sm ne cyberzone. I think they are offering the 29" pixel plus for only 75k cash. I already ordered a unit & am quite excited to receive it na tomorrow! ;D
I opted to buy a 29" set at Abensons bec. of the ff:
1. free Phlips HTIB 8)
2. free Philips matching TV Stand (had to haggle on this one) 8)
3. 0% interest @ 12 months for Citibank 8)
4. extended 2 year warranty on top of the first year (additional P3,995 ata) 8)
5. excellent customer service pa! 8)
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welcome to the pixelplus club, BOKS :D
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welcome to the pixelplus club, BOKS :D
Thanks Yrneh ano ba priveleges natin sa club? hehe ;) ;D 8)
(http://www.consumer.philips.com/global/b2c/ce/catalog/assets/products/29pt9420_m.jpg)
Philips 29" Pixel Plus (29PT9420)
Anyway, I'd just like to share with you my first experience with this set. The moment the unit arrived, I installed the stand & mounted the set right away! Can't contain my excitement talaga hehe. ;D Was really worth the wait! The following day an installer from Philips came by to check the unit. To his surprise everything was set up na (channels, picture & sound)! I just asked the guy to adjust the internal picture settings (v&h-shift, parabola, etc.) using the service mode but he had no idea what I was talking about. I displayed some test patterns from S&V Home Theater Tune-Up and he was like DUHHHH! :o ??? ::) :-[ He had to call his supervisor & the guy even thought that I was a technician & that I inadvertently misaligned the set! After talking with the guy, he promised to send another personnel the following day pa. I was actually hesitant to play around with the service mode, although the settings were already posted by jpadua, before an installer showed me how & what to adjust to get the "more accurate" & aligned picture.
After successfully aligning the set, I had no further reason to complain. The whole picture perfectly fits into the entire screen with the test patterns I used. The picture is indeed very sharp & movements are very "life-like". :o The only problem now is that the matching TV stand is quite low from my viewing position so am still planning to buy a separate platform to place the whole set-up on to increase its height. :-\
BTW, I have a few questions or clarifications and included some of my observations as well for my fellow Pixel Plus owners. Would really appreciate your feedback guys. ;)
1. Tried to connect my laptop to my set using a VGA connector cable & noticed that the set can only receive a resolution of 640x480 only. Aside from this, the picture looked like it was in widescreen mode (didn't occupy the whole screen vertically). Is this really the case or should I adjust or program something pa?
2. Do you prefer turning on the DNR, Active Control, Active Contrast & Color Enhancement modes? I opted to turn-on only DNR & Color Enhance coz I noticed some improvements on picture quality but ain't I distorting the picture somehow? Active Controls seem unstable & confusing.
3. I also turn-on the Antenna Attenuator to decrease noise & overlapping caused by strong signals between two channels.
4. I set the Picture Format to 4:3 (LB) coz the picture looks more natural this way.
5. Lastly, here are my picture settings calibrated using S&V. Try & see if this works for you too.
Contrast - 45
Brightness - 55
Color - 50
Sharpness - 3
Hue - 0
Tint - Normal
8) Come & enjoy the Pixel Plus experience! 8)
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oops my bad! tama ka its the 50"
Jay,
I am a real DNM fan.
However, I seem to be more being sucked into the Samsung DLP tunnel... I wonder why?
I guess, the article I read that Philips, will be doing OEM type arrangement to license the DNM engine to third-party gives me hope that next time, it will no longer be the TV monitor to provide DNM functionality but any other dvd player or conversion box :-)
Okay, please give me a sanity check why I wouldn't go for a Samsung DLP which is also widescreen btw. Except for the DNM / Pixelview functionality that it lacks and have to concede that one to Philips, the price of the 36" WS Philips Pixel model is almost the price of a 50" Samsung unit that I found, got an additional 20k discount if you pay cash right away.
Am I nuts? Anyway, on the brighter side, I got another PC to use dedicatedly for a HTPC engine.
One I settle in my new job and find more time to have spend on leisure entertainment, I'll work on this.
I am going to place my order this week and I am having 2nd thoughts... it's like getting married and last minute this other prospective wifey material comes along :-)
-jackryan 8)
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Thanks Yrneh ano ba priveleges natin sa club? hehe ;) ;D 8)
(http://www.consumer.philips.com/global/b2c/ce/catalog/assets/products/29pt9420_m.jpg)
Philips 29" Pixel Plus (29PT9420)
2. Do you prefer turning on the DNR, Active Control, Active Contrast & Color Enhancement modes? I opted to turn-on only DNR & Color Enhance coz I noticed some improvements on picture quality but ain't I distorting the picture somehow? Active Controls seem unstable & confusing.
3. I also turn-on the Antenna Attenuator to decrease noise & overlapping caused by strong signals between two channels.
4. I set the Picture Format to 4:3 (LB) coz the picture looks more natural this way.
5. Lastly, here are my picture settings calibrated using S&V. Try & see if this works for you too.
Contrast - 45
Brightness - 55
Color - 50
Sharpness - 3
Hue - 0
Tint - Normal
8) Come & enjoy the Pixel Plus experience! 8)
I agree with you with the active control settings. I also turn mine to its minimum setting, medyo unstable kasi pag nasa medium paiba-iba yung brightness and color kakailang.
Also use the Antenna Attenuator its really a big help it improve the signal significantly specially HBO's.
I tried your picture setting medyo masyadong maliwanag for my taste, here's my setting baka mas ok ito if you try them. ;D
Contrast - 47
Brightness - 42
Color - 45
Sharpness - 4
Hue - 0
Tint - Normal
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Jay,
I am a real DNM fan.
However, I seem to be more being sucked into the Samsung DLP tunnel... I wonder why?
I guess, the article I read that Philips, will be doing OEM type arrangement to license the DNM engine to third-party gives me hope that next time, it will no longer be the TV monitor to provide DNM functionality but any other dvd player or conversion box :-)
Okay, please give me a sanity check why I wouldn't go for a Samsung DLP which is also widescreen btw. Except for the DNM / Pixelview functionality that it lacks and have to concede that one to Philips, the price of the 36" WS Philips Pixel model is almost the price of a 50" Samsung unit that I found, got an additional 20k discount if you pay cash right away.
Am I nuts? Anyway, on the brighter side, I got another PC to use dedicatedly for a HTPC engine.
One I settle in my new job and find more time to have spend on leisure entertainment, I'll work on this.
I am going to place my order this week and I am having 2nd thoughts... it's like getting married and last minute this other prospective wifey material comes along :-)
-jackryan 8)
I know what you mean, I'm a pixelplus fanatic as you well know.. but judging on price and screensize... the Samsung DLP might be a better alternative than having DNM in 36" inches. Besides, I watch DVDs using the HTPC meaning I dont have DNM turned on, DNM is a cool feature.. but I go for resolution and better PQ so I opt for the VGA connection (which doesnt have DNM).
The samsung is a great buy if you ask me, 50" very slim and light, in my opinion it has better PQ than a plasma. Its HD up to 720p, but can do 1280x1024 computer resolution (which means you can tweek this via powerstrip to get 1440x1024p--just a theory) Very clear at most viewing angles. Id say this is perfect for an HTPC Monitor. Price range is adequate considering its features.
Naku Jackryan! did I give you more of a headache!??! but seriously... If I had that same choice... I'd go samsung DLP 5stars din siya in some review I read. It's the closest you'll get to plasma looking PQ even better. Most importantly you get 50" of pure widescreen. at 720p HD res, you'll get the best picture quality with an HTPC. Maiinggit talaga ako!!!! I'll be the first volunteer to tweek your HTPC if you get that samsung!!! :D
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Go look at the 40" XBR too.
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wow! another pixelplus convert! congrats yrneh!
clubmembers, question ko lang.. please help me prove it wrong.. a salesperson told me that during fast action scenes on the pixelplus, a shadow tends to lag or doesn't catch up with the image. Is this true?
i'm like 90% planning to buy this set but the other 10% is considering a 29" DRC.. the price is relatively low now at 60k.. but it is not HDTV.. hehehehe :)
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hi furry, di ko naman napapansin sa tv ko yung nagla-lag. tanong ko lang, yung 29"na DRC ba ay 100Hz at flicker-free na? in my experience kasi, nung nagka-100hz matchline ako before my pixel plus, i told myself na i'll stick to 100hz dahil flicker-free sila at nakakapanibago pag nanonood ako sa lumang tv ko na nasa bedroom dahil 50hz lang yon. pero kung makakamura ka sa DRC at may paggagamitan ka ng sobra na sa dapat para sa pixel plus, then be practical na lang. sayang din ang perang pinaghirapan. pero if your budget permits, sumanib ka na sa amin ;D
my1cent
shalom :)
ps mukhang maganda nga yung samsung dlp kaso ang MAHAL :(
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...pero if your budget permits, sumanib ka na sa amin ;D
my1cent
shalom :)
Parang kulto naman pakinggan yan - "sumanib" hehehe...
Oo Furry sumaaaniiib ka na sa amin... Brotherhood of Pixel Plus. ;D
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hi furry, di ko naman napapansin sa tv ko yung nagla-lag. tanong ko lang, yung 29"na DRC ba ay 100Hz at flicker-free na? in my experience kasi, nung nagka-100hz matchline ako before my pixel plus, i told myself na i'll stick to 100hz dahil flicker-free sila at nakakapanibago pag nanonood ako sa lumang tv ko na nasa bedroom dahil 50hz lang yon. pero kung makakamura ka sa DRC at may paggagamitan ka ng sobra na sa dapat para sa pixel plus, then be practical na lang. sayang din ang perang pinaghirapan. pero if your budget permits, sumanib ka na sa amin ;D
my1cent
shalom :)
ps mukhang maganda nga yung samsung dlp kaso ang MAHAL :(
Just as an FYI, 100hz is the PAL counterpart of Progressive Scan. Why? well, here is the difference, an NTSC signal is scanned at 60HZ 720x480 while a PAL signal is scanned at 50hz 720x576.
Progressive scan (or scan doubling) does a 60hz sweep for both odd and even lines simultaneously as compared to the non-progressive scan which scans odd lines and even lines one after the other creating the flicker effect.
As for 100hz digital scan (this is just another name used to describe scan doubling for 50hz PAL sets) does exactly the same thing.
So even if you have a 100hz digital scan TV, it is not actively being used if you are watching an NTSC broadcast or an NTSC DVD. It is most likely doing progressive scan.
I noticed this with the pixel plus, under the digital options, you only have a choice between progressive scan and pixel plus. If I place a PAL DVD on my player... when I go back to the digital options, the menu changes... Progressive scan is not available but a new item 100hz is now selectable.
Try it at home boys and girls! :)
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Most probably pixelplus na nga kunin ko eh.. sinaniban na!!! gusto ko din kasi HDTV para hindi naman sayang bibilhin ko. Sana lang talaga durable ang Philips and will last for many years.. heheheh..
gusto ko kasi panoorin si Sadako lumalabas sa TV and Pixelplus is the best way to do it! hehehehe :)
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furry, pag nakabili ka na, isa sa mga unang pang-test mo ay toy story 1&2 and a bugs life at tiyak dun pa lang e matutuwa ka na :)
jay, so does that mean na parang progressive scan na rin ba ang video output ko (dvd & tv boradcast) dahil PAL broadcast dito sa australia? also napansin ko rin dahil kanina, nanood ako ng gladiator region1 e pixel plus at progressive scan lang ang digital options. korekek me if im wrong (again :))
shalom
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YrNeh.. will do that :) and of course, to top it all.. we've got the best tech support of PixelPlus TV.. it's all here in this forum with you guys!
Gusto ko na mag Pasko :)
Furry
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furry, pag nakabili ka na, isa sa mga unang pang-test mo ay toy story 1&2 and a bugs life at tiyak dun pa lang e matutuwa ka na :)
jay, so does that mean na parang progressive scan na rin ba ang video output ko (dvd & tv boradcast) dahil PAL broadcast dito sa australia? also napansin ko rin dahil kanina, nanood ako ng gladiator region1 e pixel plus at progressive scan lang ang digital options. korekek me if im wrong (again :))
shalom
Yeah thats correct! pag PAL ang broadcast mo, 100hz means is the same as progressive scan except that its dual scanning at 50hz dahil 50hz lang ang PAL signal, while NTSC is 60hz.. in other words it would be safe to say the if PAL in progressive is 100hz NTSC progressive is 120hz :)
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Right now my home theater's about to be completed. I have Mission M70i series for 6 channels and a polk audio sub of 300 watts. I got a new Onkyo 701 THX and just yesterday, the newest pioneer dvd player 667A with dvd a and sacd plus purecinema progressive feature.
Now my Display is not that good, the philips Matchline 29" I brought from SM last december (interlaced and non-progressive although it seems the flatness is picture quality).
What model and how much is the cheapest 29" or 34" progressive Display should I get and does anybody accept trades?
Will appreciate your thoughts. Thanks
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markymark!!! :D
tlagang on a shopping spree ka ha...hhehehe 0% @ 12 and 18 months yung mga pixel plus sa ansons...hehe...free dvd htib pa ;D
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I agree with you with the active control settings. I also turn mine to its minimum setting, medyo unstable kasi pag nasa medium paiba-iba yung brightness and color kakailang.
Also use the Antenna Attenuator its really a big help it improve the signal significantly specially HBO's.
I tried your picture setting medyo masyadong maliwanag for my taste, here's my setting baka mas ok ito if you try them. ;D
Contrast - 47
Brightness - 42
Color - 45
Sharpness - 4
Hue - 0
Tint - Normal
Hi will also try your settings pre. BTW, mine was based on a completely dark room kasi kaya baka medyo bright. Thanks! :)
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Guys.. yun widescreen ba ng PixelPlus okay ba? is it only compressed or like a virtual widescreen?
Ilayo ninyo ako sa MegaTrade Hall Citibank sale! Saw the 29" pixelplus.. free home theater, tv rack and option for extended warranty... tapos 0% interest for 12 months!!!
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I am now officially a PixelPlus member ;D The unit is arriving on the 31st! rock on!!!
I'll be selling the HITB that comes along with it... it's the MX3000, would anybody be interested? :) i'll post this on the buy&sell thread later :)
Guys, should i have waited for the PixelPlus2? i shouldn't have went to Megamall yesterday.. ehehehehe... ;D
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Do I need to have a progressive scan dvd player to use with the Pixel Plus TV or does the TV have its own progressive scanning so i can connect my ordinary dvd player and still get progressive scan quality?
Thanks.
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It actually depends on your taste... The pixel plus automatically turns any signal into progressive via its own internal scaler. Its also pretty good, but it does its own calculations, sharpening, and such. If you are a purist and want to see the DVD in its pure progressive form, then get a progressive scan player so that the signal fed into the TV is already a progressive signal the TV will just display it. No more conversion goin on in the TV. I prefer and most others would also agree to get a progressive scan DVD player. In my case I use an HTPC for superior DVD playback. Better than any progressive scan DVD player Ive seen so far. Not unless its the new samsung 1080i DVD player which costs hundreds of thousands :D
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I am now officially a PixelPlus member ;D The unit is arriving on the 31st! rock on!!!
I'll be selling the HITB that comes along with it... it's the MX3000, would anybody be interested? :) i'll post this on the buy&sell thread later :)
Guys, should i have waited for the PixelPlus2? i shouldn't have went to Megamall yesterday.. ehehehehe... ;D
Congrats!!!! Welcome to the Pixel Plus Cult group hehehe... may initiation ba boys?
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time to go into service mode.. heheheh ;D nainip na akoooh!
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hey furry , since its a new TV make sure to watch full screen flicks first or a lot of TV for maybe a day.. para ok yung burn in.. if you watch a widescreen anamorphic, na naka letter box, baka magkaroon ka ng bad burn in.. may ghosting ka na bars sa taas at ilalim :D just a reminder! some people dont do it, but better safe!
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sounds like good advice to me :) thanks jpadua! you can be sure i'll post some questions here later.. hehehe.. that is after when i read the manual :)
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It actually depends on your taste... The pixel plus automatically turns any signal into progressive via its own internal scaler. Its also pretty good, but it does its own calculations, sharpening, and such. If you are a purist and want to see the DVD in its pure progressive form, then get a progressive scan player so that the signal fed into the TV is already a progressive signal the TV will just display it. No more conversion goin on in the TV. I prefer and most others would also agree to get a progressive scan DVD player. In my case I use an HTPC for superior DVD playback. Better than any progressive scan DVD player Ive seen so far. Not unless its the new samsung 1080i DVD player which costs hundreds of thousands :D
pre, i know that downtown bought a Momitsu DVD player that has native DVI interface that can go this mode... i also ordered one from the HK online merchant but they are currently still out of stock... nevertheless, i guess your HTPC set-up can go this mode right?
the other question related to this, is for the interim i am using an xbox console with the advanced video interface and enable 720p and 1080i modes but not sure if it can really deliver such modes... no way to check it out except believe that it doesn on my non-Philips set-up (Samsung DLP 50)... nevertheless, i am still convincing my wife to get another Philips Pixel Plus tv monitor for our bedroom so that I can get the best of both worlds :-)
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Few pixelplus questions :)
- Is DNR = Pixelplus?
- Do you always have DNR set to Maximum?
- When i press the volume to adjust it, i do not see an indicator bar for the current volume unlike other TVs. Is this normal?
- I can't get a good reception on my cable TV (kinda snowy) but i was thinking since the feed is the 2nd or 3rd one already kaya medyo mahina.
That's all for now :) i still haven't gone into service mode.. parang hindi ko na kailangan adjust yun tilt eh.. looks good to me. Maybe the tech adjusted it beforehand or something.
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DNR is a feature of the TV, you can have DNR with or w/o pixel plus feature on
My DNR is set to the lowest setting, too much DNR makes the picture look pasty
There is really no volume OSD indicator on screen this is normal
The TV is very clear, too clear that it even see's cable reception flaws, where as in normal TV's it would not be noticable due to the lower resolution
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thanks jpadua! hyew :) just one more question.. is there a way to turn off pixelplus? or you would only have two options? either pixeplus or progressive?
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- When i press the volume to adjust it, i do not see an indicator bar for the current volume unlike other TVs. Is this normal?
- I can't get a good reception on my cable TV (kinda snowy) but i was thinking since the feed is the 2nd or 3rd one already kaya medyo mahina.
If you like to see the volume indicator bar, you should turn the OSD adjusment to normal. If the OSD setting is in minimum the channel indicator and volume indicator would not show up on screen. To turn ODS to normal go to - Settings - General - OSD.
I used to have a snowy and noisy reception when my Pixel Plus was newly installed, I think the TV needs time to adjust before reception really get clearer. And when it do get clear talagang ang linaw. You can try turning the Antenna attenuator in the Channel setting it will help a lot, you have to do this for each of the channel.
;)
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Oh hey cool! :) i'll try both of your suggestions when i get home tonight.
So even if i'm using cable, the Antenna attenuator helps?
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If you like to see the volume indicator bar, you should turn the OSD adjusment to normal. If the OSD setting is in minimum the channel indicator and volume indicator would not show up on screen. To turn ODS to normal go to - Settings - General - OSD.
I used to have a snowy and noisy reception when my Pixel Plus was newly installed, I think the TV needs time to adjust before reception really get clearer. And when it do get clear talagang ang linaw. You can try turning the Antenna attenuator in the Channel setting it will help a lot, you have to do this for each of the channel.
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hey Mr. Big Boy thats really good advice! I did notice though that if I turn the OSD to normal, it always shows what connection you are using, lets say AV1 AV2 AV3 kinda irritating, so I always keep the OSD off, is there a way to turn on the OSD where are you do see the volume slider but the AV1 AV2 etc. doesnt stay in the upper left hand corner?
About the attenuation I just found out about it from you now!!! thats great! I'll go try it.. my cinemax is super clear, but HBO is a bit snowy I'll try that attenuator thingi... thanks man! good advice
by the during the time of this post, we are all online at the same time heheh... sana pinoyDVD had a chat feature :D
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Yes, I think the Antenna Attenuator was meant for cable reception. What it does is to try to insulate the cable signal from other alien TV signals such as free TV so it enhances the signal make it clearer and cleaner. You will really notice a big difference.
;D
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I shall try that as soon as I get home... :) but what about the AV1 AV2 AV3 osd appearing on the upper left when osd is on? is there a way to get rid of it?
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hey Mr. Big Boy thats really good advice! I did notice though that if I turn the OSD to normal, it always shows what connection you are using, lets say AV1 AV2 AV3 kinda irritating, so I always keep the OSD off, is there a way to turn on the OSD where are you do see the volume slider but the AV1 AV2 etc. doesnt stay in the upper left hand corner?
About the attenuation I just found out about it from you now!!! thats great! I'll go try it.. my cinemax is super clear, but HBO is a bit snowy I'll try that attenuator thingi... thanks man! good advice
by the during the time of this post, we are all online at the same time heheh... sana pinoyDVD had a chat feature :D
There is no way to turn the volume indicator on without turning the channel indicator on with it as far as I know.
I agree with you, the channel indicator is really distracting when you're watching DVD's or video's (AV1 AV2 etc), I always turn mine to minimun to get rid of the channel indicator when I'm watching DVD's. You don't need the TV volume anyway if you're using an audio seperate amplifier. But I turn it to normal again when I go back to TV.
I think Philips should have place a setting to turn off the channel indicator independently from the volume indicator.
I think you have to use the Cable supplied with the TV with the antenna attenuator.
:)
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I don't think i would be able to use that cable unless i have another splitter :) i'll try it out anyway. Thanks a lot!
Last question.. so even if i have pixelplus enabled and DNR turned off, it is still pixelplus quality right?
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I don't think i would be able to use that cable unless i have another splitter :) i'll try it out anyway. Thanks a lot!
Last question.. so even if i have pixelplus enabled and DNR turned off, it is still pixelplus quality right?
Yes. DNR is only for Noise reduction it has nothing to do with the Pixel Plus feature and just like what jpadua mentioned, too much DNR makes the picture pasty or fudgy so it's best to set it to a minimum.
BTW you might be confusing DNR from DNM they are different.
;D
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you know.. i think i am! i'll get back to you guys again after i play around with the system :)
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Mr Big Boy, you're right, the attenuation works great! I noticed that my antenna setting for HBO was set to High, when I set it to low, a significant amount of snow dissapeared! its great! thanks!
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Great! ;D
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I saw a 36 inch widescreen Philips pixel plus at SM City. I cant afford the hundred thousand plus price but I hope this would be the return of widescreen again.
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mga kaanib na pixel plus owners, tanong lang. yung antenna attenuator ba e yung antenna signal option na may high/low? kung mali e saan ba makikita yun kasi snowy yung picture at ewan ko kung sa antenna ko lang yun (wala ako cable) o magbabago ba kung kakabitan ng hdtv setup box? bago kasing palit itong pixel plus ko kasi nakidlatan yata yung una kaya pinalitan ng philips kaso mas gusto ko yung nauna dahil hindi snowy yung picture nya. help plis.
shalom :)
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yeah its the antenna high low... high = low attenuation low = high attenuation weird nga eh baliktad. High produced more snow sa HBO ko so I kept it in low.
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actually sa akin walang high/low option :( saan ko ba makikita yun.. either on or off lang.. i enabled the attenuator and i still get the same snowy picture
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actually sa akin walang high/low option :( saan ko ba makikita yun.. either on or off lang.. i enabled the attenuator and i still get the same snowy picture
Meron yan :) well sa alam ko dapat... baka iba ang firmware... same din naman... if the attenuation on off doesnt work it must be your cable connection na.
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Jpadua.. i did the ff:
Menu->TV->Channels->Antenna Attenuator and choices are on or off only. Help!
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Any comments about the 29" matchline? Any problems? I am choosing between two models, one is a multisystem but 40 plus and another model which is not a multisystem but only 33T. I was going around this afternoon until I saw the JVC. I also like the video quality and features but after reading the JVC thread, I lost interest. I think Im going back to Philips or maybe a Sony. Someone told me that there is a problem with the matchline series but I cant recall. Im also looking at the 34 inch matchline being sold at Assorted Buy and Sell but I am having doubts with 2nd hand TV's.
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what i remember about the posts on the pre-pixel plus matchlines was that the component inputs only accepted progressive signals.
question though: is there a difference between the matchline crts and the pixel plus? Is pixel plus just an upsampling circuitry displayed on the same picture tube?
The reason I ask this is that the 34" matchlines have vga inputs. If your going the htpc route, this is a viable alternative since the 34" matchline costs less than the 29" pixel plus.
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Jpadua.. i did the ff:
Menu->TV->Channels->Antenna Attenuator and choices are on or off only. Help!
hmm, Iba yan ah, I havent tried that.... what I did was
Menu->Setup->Install->Manual->Antenna - Low
Not exactly sure if thats the exact way to get there, basta I know its under install tapos manual then antenna low..
I'll try yours
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ganyan din yung sa akin jay kaso snowy pa rin pag nanonood lang ako ng local tv channel
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ganyan din yung sa akin jay kaso snowy pa rin pag nanonood lang ako ng local tv channel
Pag ayaw mo na iyan, ipadala mo sa akin dito sa haus para mapalitan ko na ang JVC ko. ;D
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what i remember about the posts on the pre-pixel plus matchlines was that the component inputs only accepted progressive signals.
question though: is there a difference between the matchline crts and the pixel plus? Is pixel plus just an upsampling circuitry displayed on the same picture tube?
The reason I ask this is that the 34" matchlines have vga inputs. If your going the htpc route, this is a viable alternative since the 34" matchline costs less than the 29" pixel plus.
That is what I have read here. You mean all matchline without pixel plus have this problem? Im interested pa naman with the 34 inch elcid is selling or a brand new 29 inch matchline. Someone told me the HDTV matchline were the one affected, the ordinary matchline does not have this problem.
jpadua,
any idea on this? Thanks
levi
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levi,
I was also struggling when deciding between the matchline & pixel plus but IMHO the pixel plus will give you more satisfaction in the long run. I thought of its as more "future-proof" than the matchline. ;)
BTW, does any of you fellow pixel plus owners notice the difference between Color Enhancement On/Off? 8)
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I went back again to Abenson and western. This time I saw a prog scan Philips 29PT8321. The salesman said that it is a progressive for all inputs including Tuner. Tama ba yon? The Pixel Plus is way out of my budget but Im also looking at the non progressive because its only 38 and 33T. Do you think the price difference is worth for the progressive?
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BTW, does any of you fellow pixel plus owners notice the difference between Color Enhancement On/Off? 8)
Yup, watch a DVD or a TV program, where there is a scene with a field of grass or something. then switch the color enancement on and off, you'ld notice that the grass is more vibrant greener in otherwords than with color enhancement off. Looks much better.
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I went back again to Abenson and western. This time I saw a prog scan Philips 29PT8321. The salesman said that it is a progressive for all inputs including Tuner. Tama ba yon? The Pixel Plus is way out of my budget but Im also looking at the non progressive because its only 38 and 33T. Do you think the price difference is worth for the progressive?
Ive read a lot of reviews saying that the previous matchlines before the pixel plus were "sirain daw" and you might have a problem dealing with Philips service.
On the other hand, if all inputs are progressive, if you have a progressive scan DVD player then you dont have a problem with that. But I've looked at the previous HD matchlines na hindi pixel plus. It has 2 component inputs (one non-progressive) and a vga input pang HD set top box (or HTPC) :) it really depends. Make sure to check the back of the TV and look at all the inputs and have them test a DVD player and a Progressive DVD player... thats what I did sa ansons, they were kind enough naman to do test it for me. So sa kabaitan nila saakin I ended up getting the pixel plus from them... it pays to be a friendly sales person :D
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medyo ot pero jackryan yung sa xbox kung kaya mag 720p why dont u use it for viewing dvd's in 720p mode?para matest
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medyo ot pero jackryan yung sa xbox kung kaya mag 720p why dont u use it for viewing dvd's in 720p mode?para matest
Hi Pasingit lang :) all the progressive modes of the XBOX only works for games, when using the DVD software of the XBOX it switches back to non-progressive.
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is the pixelplus a multi-system? i've played a PAL disc but only got a black&white display.. are there any settings to activate it?
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Ive read a lot of reviews saying that the previous matchlines before the pixel plus were "sirain daw" and you might have a problem dealing with Philips service.
On the other hand, if all inputs are progressive, if you have a progressive scan DVD player then you dont have a problem with that. But I've looked at the previous HD matchlines na hindi pixel plus. It has 2 component inputs (one non-progressive) and a vga input pang HD set top box (or HTPC) :) it really depends. Make sure to check the back of the TV and look at all the inputs and have them test a DVD player and a Progressive DVD player... thats what I did sa ansons, they were kind enough naman to do test it for me. So sa kabaitan nila saakin I ended up getting the pixel plus from them... it pays to be a friendly sales person :D
Thanks. Someone advised me that if I cant get the pixel plus then just get the cheaper Philips. For the 29 inch, the price difference is not worth the progressive scan ( I am not really particular about video) . I think I will just follow that and I will upgrade when the pixel plus price goes down.
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is the pixelplus a multi-system? i've played a PAL disc but only got a black&white display.. are there any settings to activate it?
yes multi-system sya. bka naka ntsc ang default color system nya, gawin mo na lang na AUTO. kung naka-AUTO na sya at ganun pa rin, check your dvd player baka hindi naka-auto (kung multi-system din sya).
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Levi,
Why not consider my offer dun sa assorted buy and sell? yung matchline III ko na 29" eh gud buy yun! parang display unit lang sya kung tutuusin. i send you a pm paki check na lang.. im markymark and kobebryant at the same time..
Thanks po
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Thanks, Im also considering your offer including elcid's but Im still looking at brand new units also. If ever saan pala pwede kunin ang unit mo?
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Yrneh, sa service mode ba babaguhin yun COLOR system? i can't find it on any of the menus.
Guys, did Philips call you up for servicing after you purchased the TV? i'm kinda dissatisfied with their customer service.. bummer..
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sobrang crystal clear nung picture, parang 3-dimensional na nga. 8)
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Yrneh, sa service mode ba babaguhin yun COLOR system? i can't find it on any of the menus.
Guys, did Philips call you up for servicing after you purchased the TV? i'm kinda dissatisfied with their customer service.. bummer..
Color System nasa menu lang, no need to go to service menu :) just leave it at auto and it will autodetect wether the incoming signal is NTSC or PAL
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Sana I could demo to you guys... the HD input of the pixelplus using an HTPC.... If you think the output quality resolution wise is excellent on the internal scaler of the Pixel plus.. wait till you see my HTPC pump out, a 1080i signal into the HD input. Almost lifelike
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jpadua.. sent you a pm ;D
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Yup, watch a DVD or a TV program, where there is a scene with a field of grass or something. then switch the color enancement on and off, you'ld notice that the grass is more vibrant greener in otherwords than with color enhancement off. Looks much better.
Thanks for the input jp. will try that right away! :)
Can I ask you one more question about the VGA input naman? I tried connecting my regular laptop to the TV but the image became distorted somehow. Looked kinda like it was shown using the vertical squeeze but I didn't turn it on naman. I also noticed that the tv can only view 640x480 pixels only. I tried using powerstrip but I really don't know what values to plug in. Please help anyone ??? Thanks in advance guys!
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Yrneh, sa service mode ba babaguhin yun COLOR system? i can't find it on any of the menus.
Guys, did Philips call you up for servicing after you purchased the TV? i'm kinda dissatisfied with their customer service.. bummer..
no need to go to service mode.
menu-->setup--->general--->color - set to AUTO
shalom :)
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I guess OT ito but I saw a Philips 30" widescreen HDTV sa Image Harrison, 70K ang asking price.
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Thanks for the input jp. will try that right away! :)
Can I ask you one more question about the VGA input naman? I tried connecting my regular laptop to the TV but the image became distorted somehow. Looked kinda like it was shown using the vertical squeeze but I didn't turn it on naman. I also noticed that the tv can only view 640x480 pixels only. I tried using powerstrip but I really don't know what values to plug in. Please help anyone ??? Thanks in advance guys!
HI, yup natively your TV supports the standard 640x480@60hz. With power strip you have the ability to create other resolutions that are close to 60hz refresh rate. If you simply change the resolution in your desktop, your laptop also changes the refresh rate that the TV wont support. FYI pixelplus only supports refreshrates between 50hz to 60hz.
Regarding the vertical squeeze... yes the tv automatically sets it on cuase it assumes that its an HD broadcast which is normally wide screen. You can turn it off by just setting the TV vertical sqeeze off or on 4:3.
If you need information on how to setup powerstrip, I have a tutorial on www.htpcnews.com
http://www.htpcnews.com/main.php?id=hdguide
there are other guides there so check it out. :)
Jay
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Yrneh.. just found out that the reason why i didn't have the Color system is that i have a NTSC TV.. bad trip :(
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are you sure? alam ko multi system anfg pixelplus... I didnt know there were NTSC only models :(
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oo nga eh.. sa manual nakalagay sa cover page NTSC.. bummer. :( kaya pala wala din ako nun antenna atenuator low/high option. Bad trip talaga... oh well, i don't think i can do anything now. i'm stuck with this tv...
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before I purchased mine, I asked them if it was a multi system, kaya ko binili, but anyhow.. most of our DVDs naman here are NTSC and TV broadcast is NTSC so you dont really need PAL not unless you own Region 2 DVDs that are PAL... besides.. masakit sa mata yung PAL kasi ang refresh rate nya is only 50hz.. so actually you're not suffering that much of a loss :)
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Thanks Jpadua. Kaya pala kahit anong kulit ko sa technician ng Philips di nila mapalabas mga options na gusto ko. heheheh. Anyway, after 2-3 weeks of using the pixelplus, here are my comments:
- Remote control is not user-friendly to the hands :) nasanay lang ako sa Sony Remote siguro ;D
- I am unable to place my Center Speaker on top of the TV.. (bummer) .. hindi ko napansin ito mabuti before i bought the unit.
- Unable to calibrate/tune the TV settings properly using AVIA.
- Menu interface response is a little slow
- Some cable channels does not receive audio very well and snowy reception
Dami pala nakikita once you own the unit na. heheheh.. :) anyway, much better than the DRC pa rin 'coz it's HDTV and 100hz :) and watching DVD is still a blast!
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Thanks Jpadua. Kaya pala kahit anong kulit ko sa technician ng Philips di nila mapalabas mga options na gusto ko. heheheh. Anyway, after 2-3 weeks of using the pixelplus, here are my comments:
- I am unable to place my Center Speaker on top of the TV.. (bummer) .. hindi ko napansin ito mabuti before i bought the unit.
- Menu interface response is a little slow
- Some cable channels does not receive audio very well and snowy reception
Yan rin isa sa mga naging problema ko, hindi ko mapatong center speaker sa TV. Kaya napilitan akong isabit na lang sa wall, kaso nga lang medyo lumayo na yung center speaker kasi nga naka mount sa wall.
Menu di ko naman napuna na mabagal response. Remote is not ergonomically designed mabigat at bulky. I like the lght though
The Cable reception was also my concern but after awhile lilinaw siya I think the TV just need time to adjust.
;D
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akala ko lahat ng pixel plus ay multisystem, ano ba yung model nung sa inyo? sa akin ay 29PT9420. regarding center speaker, may ginawa kasi akong small piece of wooden wedge kaya nakapatong yung center ko sa pixel plus ko. pag nakunan ko sa digicam ipo-post ko.
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I I had no problem placing the Center Channel speakers on the pixel plus. Since I dont use the controls on top of the TV, its ok to cover it with the speaker.
(http://www.jaypadua.com/ht2/ht1b.jpg)
Just placed 2 velcro pads on the corners of the center speaker then I placed a thick folded piece of paper to wedge between the speaker and the tv to compensate for the curved shape of the top.
here's a clearer but older photo of the center speaker on the TV
(http://www.jaypadua.com/ht/ht1.jpg)
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oo nga eh.. hindi na nasundan yun home theater setup ko na dapat aligned ang front and center speaker.. haay :) i still have Sony DRC at the back of my mind.. heheheh.. yun mga "what if" scenarios :)
I really could not use the service codes.. maybe because it is a NTSC unit only and requires a different one?
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Thanks Jpadua for the tip! siguro i'll try it out too.. bibili na lang din ako ng mat na may grip. :)
The model of my unit is 29PT9420/71R
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JPadua di kaya masira yung buttons ng TV, medyo mabigat rin yung center speaker diba? Also the casing of the TV is not that hard dun sa bandang exhaust slits.
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The velcro pads are thick enough for the speaker not to touch the buttons :) actually the speaker is sitting on only 3 contacts to the TV body, the 2 velcro pads on the corners and one paper wedge behind, the wedge gives it the exhaust space to breathe naman... my setup has been like that since I got the TV... well now that I got new speaker stands, my fronts are now inline with the center :)
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Paano mo dinikit yung velcro pads sa TV? ???
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also.. dikit mo din velcro pads sa speaker di ba.. and what if there comes a time na tanggalin mo na velcros.. eh di matanggal yun paint ng speakers case and tv? i'm curious too! yan ang Philips... "some things just keeps getting better!" hehehe"
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I think the silver finish of the TV is the actual color of the plastic... the velcro pads are stick ons, so you can easily peel them off and clean the goo with alcohol or water...
I stuck the tiny velcro pads on the to front corners of the speaker first then positioned it on the edge of the TV. The velco pads are about 1x1 or a bit smaller and is about 3-4mm thick when magkadikit both ends you theres a little bit of clearance from the speaker to the TV.
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kung ayaw mong gamitan ang velcro pads, gamitan mo ng blu-tack gaya ng ginawa ko para ma-stabilize yung wedge na ginawa ko para sa center speaker. so far, stable naman yung center spkr kahit yugyugin mo pa yung buong tv rack.
shalom :)
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Guys.. napatong ko na center speaker ko! yahoo :) Philips ain't bad at all.. hehehe.. i used the rubber non-slip mat na ginagamit sa mga car and meron pala ako nun dinidikit sa ilalim ng speaker na rubber stands to minimize inclination :) awesome!
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HI, yup natively your TV supports the standard 640x480@60hz. With power strip you have the ability to create other resolutions that are close to 60hz refresh rate. If you simply change the resolution in your desktop, your laptop also changes the refresh rate that the TV wont support. FYI pixelplus only supports refreshrates between 50hz to 60hz.
Regarding the vertical squeeze... yes the tv automatically sets it on cuase it assumes that its an HD broadcast which is normally wide screen. You can turn it off by just setting the TV vertical sqeeze off or on 4:3.
If you need information on how to setup powerstrip, I have a tutorial on www.htpcnews.com
http://www.htpcnews.com/main.php?id=hdguide
there are other guides there so check it out. :)
Jay
Thanks for the help dude! I'll try it out right away. 8)
Btw, my pixel plus is also the NTSC version only. I actually asked the sales person about this before buying & he said that all models of pixel plus in the Phil. are only NTSC & not multi-system TVs. ???
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Boks, did you get the service code to work for you?
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Boks, did you get the service code to work for you?
Sorry but haven't tried it yet. Had a technician from Philips come over my place when it was newly bought & we adjusted the tv using the S&V Home Theater Set-up DVD.
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pre, i know that downtown bought a Momitsu DVD player that has native DVI interface that can go this mode... i also ordered one from the HK online merchant but they are currently still out of stock... nevertheless, i guess your HTPC set-up can go this mode right?
the other question related to this, is for the interim i am using an xbox console with the advanced video interface and enable 720p and 1080i modes but not sure if it can really deliver such modes... no way to check it out except believe that it doesn on my non-Philips set-up (Samsung DLP 50)... nevertheless, i am still convincing my wife to get another Philips Pixel Plus tv monitor for our bedroom so that I can get the best of both worlds :-)
Off-topic, but slightly related as well... re-thinking of probably getting another *new* TV for our bedroom... and inclined to get the Philips DNM enabled model...
for now however, I finally got my Momitsu dvd player and purchased the necessary DVI cable from VM and man, it works well at 720p and also 1080i... problem is now, it is so crystal screen on my Samsung DLP that you seem to notice now that during DVD plays, movie actors/actresses skin blemishes or too much make-up put on them...
still waiting for my special TV tuner that can also pump out 1080i... it should be here tom morning since my wife's flight from LA got delayed by a day... I thought I would be playing with it by now...
Anyway, does your HTPC also have tv tuner and pump them out through you HTPC via powerstrip??? That'll really be cool if that is set-up that way... and really brings out the max best of your Philips unit !
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Off-topic, but slightly related as well... re-thinking of probably getting another *new* TV for our bedroom... and inclined to get the Philips DNM enabled model...
for now however, I finally got my Momitsu dvd player and purchased the necessary DVI cable from VM and man, it works well at 720p and also 1080i... problem is now, it is so crystal screen on my Samsung DLP that you seem to notice now that during DVD plays, movie actors/actresses skin blemishes or too much make-up put on them...
still waiting for my special TV tuner that can also pump out 1080i... it should be here tom morning since my wife's flight from LA got delayed by a day... I thought I would be playing with it by now...
Anyway, does your HTPC also have tv tuner and pump them out through you HTPC via powerstrip??? That'll really be cool if that is set-up that way... and really brings out the max best of your Philips unit !
Yeah I'm using a TV Tuner, although its not an HD Tuner, its set to 720x480 (as compared to normal TV which is 320x240i) then using powerstrip, I'm watching at 1280x1024i hehe close enough to HD... Cinemax is wow! lalo na ang Hallmark channel! ang linaw... pero depende ulit sa Cable Company..... yung HBO ko di ganun ka clear
Pero.... dream TV ko yung Samsung DLP I want that talaga!!!
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Arrgghhh!!! hindi ko talaga mapagana service codes! hahahah :)
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Arrgghhh!!! hindi ko talaga mapagana service codes! hahahah :)
tawag ka na lang ng tech tapos patsibugin mo para maibigay yung service code ;D
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hehehee i like dat idea! :)
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Wondering if anyone can help. I just got a Philips Pixel Plus and there is a portion on the screen that is dark. When there's a picture on, it's not noticeable. But on a blue screen, it's clearly seen. This is at the top right portion to be exact. Is this from burn in or something? Does anyone have their own theories?
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had my pixelplus calibrated last week and reduced the Red value. Medyo matingkad pa din ng konti yun red and minsan the people looks pink :)
Can anyone tell me their RGB settings on service mode so i can have it re-calibrated by the tech? i still can't get in on service mode and ayaw ibigay sa akin! hahahaha :)
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mine has none, perfect blue screen....never had it calibrated or something....maybe you could have it checked by their authorized servicemen.
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Dongkhoi,
Were you able to sell the included HT in a box? How much?
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Jpadua,
Question 1 Does the pixelpus feature work on antenna input (Cabletv etc)
Question 2: on S Video input
Question 3: on RCA video input (for older Laser disc players)
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Jpadua,
Question 1 Does the pixelpus feature work on antenna input (Cabletv etc)
Question 2: on S Video input
Question 3: on RCA video input (for older Laser disc players)
Question 1 - Yes
Question 2 - Yes
Question 3 - Yes
Anything but prgressive scan inputs (eg. Progressive scan DVD player, VGA from Computer)
;D
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what's the exact model number of the 34 inc pixel plus TV
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at its current price range, is it still worth it to buy the pixel plus over rear projection hdtv's? a lot of these are priced just above 100k.
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what's the exact model number of the 34 inc pixel plus TV
34PT9420 kung di ako nagkakamali
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how are your pixel plus units functioning? ok pa ba after several months? any quirks or peculiarities?
nag mura na ba o ganun pa rin? (88k - 29")
ty
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check it out this weekend sir iceman90a....pressure ba? :) bili na kasi ;D
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check it out this weekend sir iceman90a....pressure ba? :) bili na kasi ;D
di pa ba umaabot ng 60k man lang? ??? ???
pwede ba swap be976?
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make me an offer i cannot refuse ;)
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how are your pixel plus units functioning? ok pa ba after several months? any quirks or peculiarities?
nag mura na ba o ganun pa rin? (88k - 29")
ty
Mine is about 6 months old now and still functioning perfectly like the day it was delivered. I'm very satisfied and happy with it, specially when I see other TV's playing DVD titles that I already saw with my Pixel Plus ibang-iba talaga ang Pixel Plus!
Plus if you got a Game console like PS2 or X-Box lalo mong ma aappreciate and Pixel Plus. It enhances the gaming experience sulit talaga.
If I got the money I would buy the widescreen version of this TV.
;D
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I know what you mean about the wide screen Mr. Big Boy,
I've had mine for about two weeks and I love it. Sad part is the nimrod in Automatic said that the 34" is the biggest sized screen Pixel Plus in Manila. Always happens, I bought the 34", then I saw the 36" wide screen in Abenson a week later. :-\
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Oo nga sayang, pero I asked the Philips rpresentative if they have a bigger screen for the Pixel Plus widescreen and he said they only have 36" available here.
Parang maliit ang 36" if you going to watch a 4X3 fullframe feature or a TV program. Lalabas mas malaki ang 29" dun. Mas malaki yung screen if DVD widescreen panonoorin mo but we watch TV programs more than we watch DVDs naman diba.
Pero ganda talaga ng widescreen ng Pixel Plus sobrang mahal nga lang.
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Na-spoil kasi ako with my old Mitsubishi na widescreen. Thing is nasira siya and walang parts. I think there were only like 6 units that were brought to the Philippines. That was more than a year ago (maybe even more than 2, I can't remember anymore ) and it's still with the Mitsubishi dealer. Up til now I still have their service unit, which isn't really that good.
But what you say is true, if you watch a lot of 4:3 aspect movies/tv, better stick with the regulare 4:3 screen.
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Hey, I just saw the new Pixel Plus RPTV's at the Glorietta this afternoon.... damn, 55pp9257 model, 218k only. ^_^
Kaso, I have to say their demo unit needed a good calibration coz I swear my non PixelPlus version (55pp8620) gets a better picture... the demo video was Bug's Life, and sobrang jaggie and rainbow ng picture... mas maganda yung demo ng unit ko, w/ Stuart Little 2.. ^_^ (o baka bias lang ako...ngek.)
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Hi All,
I'm planning to buy the pixel plus TV. What do u guys usually bring to the shop for testing?
thanks in advance :)
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Hi All,
I'm planning to buy the pixel plus TV. What do u guys usually bring to the shop for testing?
thanks in advance :)
Bring 2 DVD's isang super pangit na pirated na DVD na medyo parang film transfer... and bring a superbit DVD.
The TV is so good that it makes the picture so clear.. that bad DVD copies look worse cause you can see more of the dirt, compression, video artifacts. It also makes good DVDs look much better. So its a double edged sword.
I'm saying this cause on most normal TVs you cannot see the compression and video artifacts simply because the TV is not clear enought to show it. heheh
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Thanks Jpadua, I'll bring two pirated DVDs. R u using the free HTIB that comes with the pixel plus? What's ur feedback?
I saw many forumers having problem with the setup of the picture quality of this TV. Do you guys suggest I let them set it up first in the store then deliver it? Or the picture Q. depends on the cable provider and signal?
thanks in advance :)
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Thanks Jpadua, I'll bring two pirated DVDs. R u using the free HTIB that comes with the pixel plus? What's ur feedback?
I saw many forumers having problem with the setup of the picture quality of this TV. Do you guys suggest I let them set it up first in the store then deliver it? Or the picture Q. depends on the cable provider and signal?
thanks in advance :)
The TV itself is great! The common problems on the boards here were mostly due to just cable signal. DVD output is excellent! Remember.. quality is only as good as its source! so bad source (pDVD, bad cable reception).. bad picture.. good source(superbit dvd, good cable reception, directTV) good picture. But of course I would suggest that you go to the store and really test the unit before having it delivered para sure. Pwede kasing may calibration problems, so hassle if you have to return the TV pero bihira naman mangyari yun.
I am very satisfied with my pixelplus.. would not want to let it go not unless I get a Samsung 50" DLP heheh but what are the chances of that! hahaha.
Actually the Free HTIB I gave to my sister... its ok... nothing great... it sounds a bit small and boxed though.. parang nasa loob ka ng karton.. its not very loud, good for small rooms.. pang living room baka di kaya... you'll endup maxing the volume.. of course mas pangit tunog nun... may distortion na. If your not that particular about sound... its ok I guess.. my mother couldnt tell the difference.
I'm using an HTPC connected via VGA to the High Definition Input of the pixel plus. I have yet to see a better picture from others... so far the best ive seen.
you can checkout my HTPC setup here
http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=17;action=display;threadid=13274;start=180
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Hehehe Thanks. For how much did you sell your pixel tv?
Samsung DLP is great compare to other projectional TV.
If the free HTIB doesn't sound very good. I might opt to sell it and get a receiver+speaker.
Or I'll just get a subwoofer and plug it in the tv? Sorry don't know if thats possible...
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Hehehe Thanks. For how much did you sell your pixel tv?
Samsung DLP is great compare to other projectional TV.
If the free HTIB doesn't sound very good. I might opt to sell it and get a receiver+speaker.
Or I'll just get a subwoofer and plug it in the tv? Sorry don't know if thats possible...
nope I didnt sell the pixel plus.. I mean I wanted a samsung DLP heheh.
Yup better sell the HTIB nalang, brand new its 20k.. so you can buy a nice amp na with that.. bili ka nalang ng magandang speakers. Yung Sub you can connect to the TV I guess.. pero walang subwoofer out.
in anycase.. the TV itself maganda yung sound. It has a virtual surround thing. Of course mas maganda talaga ang A/V Amp and Good speakers and a sub.
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Thanks Jpadua, I'm looking forward on testing the pixel plus.
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Just tested the pixel plus TV set @ Anson Landmark.
I bring two pirated DVD disk to test:
Superbit Matrix reloaded and Black hawk down
Their initial setup: composite yellow connection to the video connector of pixel TV
result: Not very satisfied with the output, a lot of pixels surrouding the screen.
Another setup: they connect 3 connector to the tv and used another DVD unit. *not sure if it's progressive scan enabled*
result: there's still alot of pixels showing up in the movies.
I've questioned the sales personnel that why is it the outcome differ comparing to the Demo Gladiator. He told me it's because my disc is pirated.
Need confirmation from you guys if he is telling the truth. Also, got the ff questions:
-If i'm using a progressive scan DVD then I enable the DNM in pixel plus, Will I get a better display?
-What's the best connectivity between DVD and pixel TV to get the best display?
Thanks in advance :)
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yup its the pirated DVD's. Prated Discs are really encoded in low bitrates thats why you can see a lot of video artifacts. The reason that these discs may look clearer on normal tvs is actually paradoxial.... They look clearer because normal TVs are not that sharp, and blur the image thus unruly pixels are blurred off giving you the impression that the DVD is clear. Now if you you use an Original or good quality disc lets say, a superbit or Attack of the clones DVD (this is a good disc for testing). You'll see every little detail in the picture minus the video artifacts because this is a high bitrate encoded DVD.
DNM only works with non progressive inputs. DNM is automatically turned off when using progressive scan.
The best connection would be a progressive scan DVD player.
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Thanks again JP, Ur the master!!!
Does DNM also work on TV programs? and VCDs?
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Thanks again JP, Ur the master!!!
Does DNM also work on TV programs? and VCDs?
Yup! DNM works with all analog inputs.
TV
Composite
S-video
Component (480i, non-progressive)
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VinceT,
As far as I know is that if you have a progressive scan DVD player, you will not be able to use the pixel plus feature of your philips.
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I have an extreme brand dvd player and it's progressive scan capable.
the pixel plus feature was great but now i'm not sure if i'm going for it coz I will be using it more on VCDs and tv viewing
I might consider the panasonic giga series with progressive scan Or the philips PT8321 model also progressive scan capable.
Please help :) thanks
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Guys,
I dont' know where to place this topic, pero I just came from Automatic Center-ATC this morning. And I found this Toshiba projection TV model 38" and it's already digital, it costs around 89,000.00. Malinaw, grabe!!!! VinceT, if I were you check this out pare.
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Hi Wind, I also saw that model in automatic center. But never had the chance to test it.
Whats the model # and features of the set?
Hmmm almost same price with pixel plus TV. The toshiba maybe the "One".
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Wow.. Toshiba 38" ha.. anybody wants to buy my PixelPlus? hehehehe :)
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Hehehe Furry How much?
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Hehehe Furry How much?
60k? hehehe may kakagat?
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VinceT,
Sorry pare, wasn't able to get the model number. Kasi was so excited of the TV, Hehehehehehehehe. Kasi at first, I thought It wasa tube TV, kasi nga napakalinaw, then I ask the salesman at ang sabi nga eh projection TV nga daw. I ask him kung capable of progressive scan na, capable na raw. am not so sure. pero kaya na rin ata ang 1080i eh. Pero di ako sigurado. And then this afternoon sinamahan ko pamangkin ko sa Filinvest mall and I went to SOGO. Aba, meron silang Toshiba Tube TV, 34", 68,000. Meron ng component video input. Di nga lang capable of progressive. HHHHmmmmmmmmmmm...... It seems Toshiba is starting to make presence in the Philippine market.
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60k? hehehe may kakagat?
SOLD! where do we transact? ;D
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Windrider,
Thanks Pare, Pixel plus vs toshiba naman ngayon hehehe mukhang lumalamang ang toshiba coz progressive n cya n 38 inches.
Okz naman ang warranty ng toshiba?
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If I'm not mistaken, you're talking about a Toshiba Projection-LCD screen. I honestly don't know how a projection LCD screen works but I personally wasn't too fond of its picture. Instead of the usual horizontal lines lines that one is used to in CRTs, this one had like diagonal lines. Weird really. I still think the Sony DCR and Philips Pixel Plus is clearer.
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SOLD! where do we transact? ;D
hahaha... meron nga! wala pa akong maipapalit heheh
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hahaha... meron nga! wala pa akong maipapalit heheh
tease :-*
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hehehehe.. i have to see this Toshiba TV myself :) tignan ko kung worth it ba palitan si Pixelplus! heheheh.. wag naman 60k.. maawa kayo :)
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Guys,
I dont' know where to place this topic, pero I just came from Automatic Center-ATC this morning. And I found this Toshiba projection TV model 38" and it's already digital, it costs around 89,000.00. Malinaw, grabe!!!! VinceT, if I were you check this out pare.
Hi! ;D Gaano kalinaw yung Toshiba na yan?
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hehehehe.. i have to see this Toshiba TV myself :) tignan ko kung worth it ba palitan si Pixelplus! heheheh.. wag naman 60k.. maawa kayo :)
Furry, nakita ko na yung Toshiba na 38" hehe dont worry mas maganda parin yung Pixel Plus =) It's cute, a small projection TV. Its the Toshiba Quadro. But its only 480p and not HD ready... so I'm out hehe need the HD input for my HTPC. It do has a VGA input port, but I'm not sure up to what resolution it could take. Feeling ko 640x480 lang yun. I'd sure like to test it if it could do 1080i through powerstrip :) Iba parin ang pixelplus malaki lang yung quadro. It would have been perfect if it were 16:9 and 1080i I would have considered it.
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Question yung Motion sometething ba ng Philips for the 34 inch picture yube ie pixel plus available sa 43 inch projector nila?
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Question yung Motion sometething ba ng Philips for the 34 inch picture yube ie pixel plus available sa 43 inch projector nila?
You have to check if the projector is also a pixelplus model. I have seen HDTV rptvs by philips that are non-pixelplus and pixelplus models. The pixelplus models are the ones with the Digital Natural Motion.
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Thanks jpadua! saviour! hehehe :) long live pixelplus! sayang at hindi widescreen yun toshiba.. that would have been awesome :)
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Thanks jpadua! saviour! hehehe :) long live pixelplus! sayang at hindi widescreen yun toshiba.. that would have been awesome :)
Naku kung 16:9 yung toshiba na yun.. mangangati nanaman ako! I mean.. for 89k 38" tapos HD pa? patay!
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For sure dude.. gagawa na tayo ng new forum... PixelPlus for sale! ;)
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thats what i was trying to say, jpadua. Imagine a 38" TV for 89k and then toshiba pa. di ba thats a steal na halos!!!!
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Hi All,
Found the specs of Toshiba Quadro in the website below:
http://www.eprodz.com/ep/products.cgi?prod=3430&tab=1
Hmmm mukhang maganda .....hrap mag decide pixel plus or toshiba or panasonic giga
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Hi All,
Found the specs of Toshiba Quadro in the website below:
http://www.eprodz.com/ep/products.cgi?prod=3430&tab=1
Hmmm mukhang maganda .....hrap mag decide pixel plus or toshiba or panasonic giga
What are the specs of the giga?
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Ang alam ko lng is progressive scan cya n 100mhz then has VGA port ata. I might go to ATC greenbelt later to check out the unit.
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VinceT,
Bilib ako sa iyo pare humanap sa internet!!!! Hehehehehehehehe!!! Yan nga ang nakit ako kahapon sa ATC, Alabang. If only I found that first before i bought my sony xbr-800. Technology nga naman, always on the go!!! Kainis talaga oo!!! hehehehehehe!!!
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Ang alam ko lng is progressive scan cya n 100mhz then has VGA port ata. I might go to ATC greenbelt later to check out the unit.
Yeah I saw it in automatic center in ATC. its 100hz and Progressive scan alright. VGA is only 640x480 unfortunately... 480p lang kasi ang kaya ng TV since its only progressive... sayang talaga! I want to bring my HTPC and hook it up and test it! hehehe... cge.. Vince pag nabili mo testing naten hehehe.
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Hehehe I can't make up my mind whether to choose pixel plus or Giga
Giga is around 57k ata....pixel naman 80+ hmmmm
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Hehehe tested the Toshiba Quadro, HD n cya but the vga port support 800x600 lng and medyo mahina ang sound and NTSC lng but the PQ is excellent. Ang linaw tlaga!!!
Asked the sales personnel regarding Panasonic Giga, d ko na natest coz late na. Ang nasabi nya there's no PIP feature.....Multi-system...
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common remark sa panasonic GIGA models is the defect at the corners of the screen....may slight pic distortion daw....though a lot of them are saying that you won't see it unless you look for it...meaning di naman daw ganon ka -noticeable.....(I have to see that for myself... if it would really matter)
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Hehehe tested the Toshiba Quadro, HD n cya but the vga port support 800x600 lng and medyo mahina ang sound and NTSC lng but the PQ is excellent. Ang linaw tlaga!!!
Asked the sales personnel regarding Panasonic Giga, d ko na natest coz late na. Ang nasabi nya there's no PIP feature.....Multi-system...
What do you mean by HD na siya? I looked at the features and its only capable of 480p.... its only a progressive scan TV not High Definition, I did not see any where it says that it does HD or 1080i. How do you know its HD?
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Hi Jp, accrdng to ATC, sales personnel na HDTV n daw and capable of 1080i...Sorry don't know how to test it...
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Hi Jp, accrdng to ATC, sales personnel na HDTV n daw and capable of 1080i...Sorry don't know how to test it...
Aaah okey :) make sure lang na if you get it you know talaga if it is before you shell out your Moolah :D I'm not so sure if the sales person is accurate, I remember talking to a salesperson before asking about the pixel plus... turns out he didnt really know what he was saying. Heheh just testing them kung nang bobola talaga sila :D was i mean? :p
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Hehehe okzz Jp, how to test if it's HDTV and support 1080i? thankss :)
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Hehehe okzz Jp, how to test if it's HDTV and support 1080i? thankss :)
well usually may nakasulat sa harap ng TV HDTV or 1080i kung wala it should be at least on the brochure or on the spec sheet. Para saakin naman progressive scan is not that big a deal.
Kasi the resolution is just the same 720x480 pero progressive lang...There are TVs half the price that have their own internal scalers upconverting normal analog signals to progressive. These are not Progressive scan TVs but they are good enough for you not to really see that big a difference.
I'm still sold on the Pixelplus as compared to the Quadro :) but thats me, pero kung ang habol mo talaga is screen size then I think the quadro is good. :)
sorry pero I'll confuse you a bit more :D meron ang philips na 100hz progressive din pero widescreen RPTV di sya HD 1080i pero I think its like 48" ? lam ko mas mahal lang ng konti sa 87k meron din ganun ang Samsung.
Take a look at ansons sa ATC I think nandun... check mo muna...
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Hehehe confused n ako, I saw that model in Anson I think you're referring to PT8321, 48k cya with free 727k dvd player.
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Just curious what Pixel plus owners here prefer, the progressive scan or the pixel plus feature on their tvs. I actually prefer the pixel plus feature rather than the progressive scan.
Also, has anyone had a problem with a white line near the top when using the progressive scan?
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Just curious what Pixel plus owners here prefer, the progressive scan or the pixel plus feature on their tvs. I actually prefer the pixel plus feature rather than the progressive scan.
Also, has anyone had a problem with a white line near the top when using the progressive scan?
Meron talaga yun. Cause the pixel plus is expecting 16:9 input, it automatically defaults to vertical squeeze. During the vertical squeeze, the Pixel plus compresses the 4:3 image into 16:9. The white line is really there, it is not a factory defect. I've already looked at forums around the web and Philips claims that it is not a defect but rather a side effect of the vertical squeeze.
We really cant remove that :(
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So do you mean if you default your player to an aspect ratio of 16:9, the line won't appear?
Thanks.
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hmm, I was just wondering... I'm planning to get a bigger TV, and the thought occured to me...
Would there be any takers for a 29" Pixelplus TV at 65k?
Purchased January lastyr so its roughly a yr old, but of course very good condition.
if there's anyone.. offer me.. I might just... heheh .. bahala na :)
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hmm, I was just wondering... I'm planning to get a bigger TV, and the thought occured to me...
Would there be any takers for a 29" Pixelplus TV at 65k?
Purchased January lastyr so its roughly a yr old, but of course very good condition.
if there's anyone.. offer me.. I might just... heheh .. bahala na :)
pls. sms 09175003698 - very much interested
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pls. sms 09175003698 - very much interested
Thanks, I'm still contemplating if I would sell it, but i'll text you :) I still have to convince myself if I'm willing to shell out more money for another TV hehe..
but I am bordering 65% on selling... unti nalang :D
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ano balak mo bilhin jay? aalis ka na sa kulto ng pixel plus matapos mapasanib si furry? :) :)
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Iiwan mo na kami JPadua? Ikaw pa naman ang GURU ng Pixel Plus.
Don't get seduced by the dark side...
;D
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heheh di pa naman... pixelplus boy parin ako :) I really need to be convinced that I want a bigger screen :) thats all... if I find a nice HDTV na widescreen na within price range.. hard to resist! oh well.. di pa naman ako sold on any tv yet.. :D
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guys i'm selling my Fujitsu 42" plasma, you may see the details at the assorted buy and sell section
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it's HTib as freebie.. got mine na DVD580M complete 5.1. system :D
dang.....
sunog ang tv ko... ayon sa assessment ng Philips technician. after 13 months tsk tsk tsk... di pa inabot ng warranty
assessment fee 250
pick up and labor 1.5K
parts = TBA
sakit sa ulo.....
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nope I didnt sell the pixel plus.. I mean I wanted a samsung DLP heheh.
Yup better sell the HTIB nalang, brand new its 20k.. so you can buy a nice amp na with that.. bili ka nalang ng magandang speakers. Yung Sub you can connect to the TV I guess.. pero walang subwoofer out.
in anycase.. the TV itself maganda yung sound. It has a virtual surround thing. Of course mas maganda talaga ang A/V Amp and Good speakers and a sub.
jpadua,
pre, i am back at a cross-road.... i can't decide whether i should be getting a Sony based DRC series or a Pixel Plus with DNM.
I find it also interesting that here you are wanting a Samsung DLP while I already with a Samsung DLP wants to get a Pixel Plus or a DRC to for our master bedroom.
Now here is the quick questions:
1) Where did you get your unit before and by how much?
2) Did you get a free HTIB and a stand with it ?
3) There is a store selling the 29" Pixel Plus at php 88k (php 82k if cash) but not sure if the stand and/or there is a free HTIB
salamat,
-jackryan 8)
0917 528 5618
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alam ko na trade tayo! :D hehehe
1. I got my 29" pixel plus sa Ansons alabang with Stand 86k
2. yes may free HTIB dati pero mahina mas maganda pa tunog ng computer speakers na 5.1
3. dapat may free yun na HTIB 82k malamang wala pang stand yun kasi stand ko was 4k = 86k
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you got a dead deal hehehe ;-)
talaga... hmmm... i'll check with the store...
would i be missing at a lot of it got a Pixel Plus over a Sony's XBR or equivalent series ???
-jackryan 8)
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jpadua.. okay lang iwan mo kami.. kunin mo na lang yun 32" flatscreen na pixel plus.. hehehehe :)
so far my TV is doing okay naman.. when i watch movies, i have no regrets i bought this baby! >:D
..also.. playstation2 games look awesom too!
comment: the remote just really sucks though :)
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Jackryan, heheh you cant go wrong with the PixelPlus, its worth every peso talaga, namamaximize ko na talaga yung Pixelplus ko ngayon, eto nakakatawa, kala ko ganun lang talaga yung cable signal ko, pero after ko ginalaw galaw yung cable ko, and linaw ng cableTV!!! I used to think na soso and TV viewing, pero now, ok talaga, very crisp and clear. I suggest going for the 32" nalang na Pixel plus dahil bitin na bitin ako sa size ng 29" kala ko ok lang yun pero B-I-T-I-N ako!
and DNM really kicks in now with cable, minsan nakakalimutan ko na naka on ang DNM, dahil nasasanay na ako sa fluid movement ng motion.
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do they sell the widescreen version of the pixel plus here in the philippines? Its not good investing on the 4:3 tv screen anymore.
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number1, yes they still do and astig talaga siya :)
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sayang lang masyado mahal yung widescreen nila, P199k ata yung SRP a few months ago. if they sold it at P130k or less mas sulit. dati, samsung was demoing a widescreen crt tv for P120k, though parang di ko yata nakikita sa stores
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sayang lang masyado mahal yung widescreen nila, P199k ata yung SRP a few months ago.
With that kind of price, everyone is better off purchasing a 55+ widescreen rptv.
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i was even thinking of getting the LG 40 or 42" yata yun na widescreen projection. It's around 80k eh... pero hindi na lang.. napamahal na ako sa pixelplus.. nakalimutan ko na mga Sony series :)
Jpadua... stay on the dark siddeeeeee.... >:D
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furry, those lg rptv's dont look that good. maganda yung DLP RPTV nila, but at P175k srp for the 42", medyo high. if they priced it much, much lower than comparable samsung models, dami siguro bibili. as it is, parang mas okay pa rin bumili ng samsung dlp diba?
i was even thinking of getting the LG 40 or 42" yata yun na widescreen projection. It's around 80k eh... pero hindi na lang.. napamahal na ako sa pixelplus.. nakalimutan ko na mga Sony series :)
Jpadua... stay on the dark siddeeeeee.... >:D
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yeah... we home theater addicts don't get contented at some point.. hahahah :) upgrade! upgrade!
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Jackryan, heheh you cant go wrong with the PixelPlus, its worth every peso talaga, namamaximize ko na talaga yung Pixelplus ko ngayon, eto nakakatawa, kala ko ganun lang talaga yung cable signal ko, pero after ko ginalaw galaw yung cable ko, and linaw ng cableTV!!! I used to think na soso and TV viewing, pero now, ok talaga, very crisp and clear. I suggest going for the 32" nalang na Pixel plus dahil bitin na bitin ako sa size ng 29" kala ko ok lang yun pero B-I-T-I-N ako!
and DNM really kicks in now with cable, minsan nakakalimutan ko na naka on ang DNM, dahil nasasanay na ako sa fluid movement ng motion.
ahem... i was surprised with the soso... i thought you were trying to tell me something else hehehe ;D ::)
yeah, i agree... i have to go back to the store to get either the 34" or the 29"... the 32" is still too high to consider for a WS considering that I'll just be using this for our bedroom and I already have the Samsung DLP 50" for the main HT area...
the package you got had the stand and the HTIB ? Is the HTIB already progressive capable --- if yes, what exact model???
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the stand is optional, and the HTIB is not progressive, I dont know about the 32" model baka iba yung bundle nila, check again kung ano yung available bundle.
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jpadua.. okay lang iwan mo kami.. kunin mo na lang yun 32" flatscreen na pixel plus.. hehehehe :)
so far my TV is doing okay naman.. when i watch movies, i have no regrets i bought this baby! >:D
..also.. playstation2 games look awesom too!
comment: the remote just really sucks though :)
i agree with you furry :), pag naglalaro ako ng xbox tuwang tuwa ako sa pix quality at syempre lalo na pag watching movies. sinubukan mo ba yung settings na pinadala ko sa iyo?
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the stand is optional, and the HTIB is not progressive, I dont know about the 32" model baka iba yung bundle nila, check again kung ano yung available bundle.
finally have a 34" unit to be delivered this weekend... for some strange reason after buying the unit and still holding on my Samsung DLP, I am inching towards getting a plasma or an lcd once i get more play funds... it really never ends!
however, was amazed how the LG DLP unit performs next to the same similar Samsung DLP unit model that I own... amazing these Korean technologies... for some reason, they are more technology attractive than equivalent Sony models...
-jackryan 8)
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Jay,
What settings would you recommend to tweak and also how do i get into the service mode menu?
I got the progressive scan capable HTIB, would you know how I can dispose it for ?
thanks,
-jackryan 8)
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Yrneh.. yes, i tried the settings and nag adjust din ako ng konti :)
I wasn't able to get into service mode and mukhang hindi ko na rin naman kailangan.
Go PixelPlusPipol!
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Go PixelPlusPipol!
may bago tayong kaanib ---> jackryan :) cool u got the 34", i would have bought that model but sad to say it's not available here downunder then phased out na kaagad yung 29" at puro widescreen na lang.
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Hi people. Can I join this discussion?
I am from Philips Semiconductors. The TV is from the Philips Consumer Electronics (Sister Company).
Pixel Plus is our newest technology. We have the best video in all of the TVs.
By the way, I am one of those guys, who makes that quality transistors for your TV. Yes, many of those transistors, are made here in the Philippines.
We are also proud that our sister company is the co-inventor of the DVD Technology.
I saw the Pixel Plus TV at our Staff Shop. I say Pixel Plus and Progressive Scan is the best. Better video, better life. ;)
Irvin
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Hi people. Can I join this discussion?
I am from Philips Semiconductors. The TV is from the Philips Consumer Electronics (Sister Company).
Pixel Plus is our newest technology. We have the best video in all of the TVs.
By the way, I am one of those guys, who makes that quality transistors for your TV. Yes, many of those transistors, are made here in the Philippines.
We are also proud that our sister company is the co-inventor of the DVD Technology.
I saw the Pixel Plus TV at our Staff Shop. I say Pixel Plus and Progressive Scan is the best. Better video, better life. ;)
Irvin
Welcome to the club...
However, I am a little bit disappointed on the unit that I got. Maybe it's just me since I got spoiled with the Samsung DLP that I am using... would you know why this unit doesn't support 720p ?
-jackryan 8)
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may bago tayong kaanib ---> jackryan :) cool u got the 34", i would have bought that model but sad to say it's not available here downunder then phased out na kaagad yung 29" at puro widescreen na lang.
salamat pre... but i think having started off first with samsung dlp has made me more jaded about getting this unit... i meant the expectations seems higher for me... or i guess, i am into this mode of should i be better off watching this on the DLP downstairs or on the Pixel tv in our bedroom... maybe, it takes a little bit more time for me to get warm to this...
i have a quick question though... what sound settings do you use?
jay, you mentioned using surround speakers with it... did you had to use passive or active ones?
also need to understand is the tv attenuator setting for each channel or applies generally to all channels???
and one more thing to add, i think one is better off with the 29" vs the 34" for the price difference is really significant...
lastly, anyone interested in getting the still in a box, brand new progressive HTIB unit that came with this bundle...????
-jackryan 8)
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Okey 720P is good, but we only have it on plasma TV.
On the other hand, 720P has only 720 lines, while Pixel plus has more than 1,000 lines.
Many of my colleagues said Pixel Plus is better than 720P.
Hope this helps.
Irvin
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I hope you don't mind my butting in. I just thought I'd float this. I actually prefer the Pixel Plus over the Progressive Scan feature. Does anyone agree? Or do most you guys prefer the Progressive Scan feature?
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Yup, same here.
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wow dami ko na miss na messages hehehe. dont know where to begin...
Jackryan, welcome to the Pixelplus Club, hehehe.... I dont think you really need the service menu not unless the Picture is realy distorted which I doubt it is. Iba yung HTIB na kasama with the 29" so i dont know how much yours would cost... maganda na rin yan progressive na naman. Wala bang kasamang speakers yung HTIB?
nephilim, I use the pixel plus feature mainly for TV, it really improves the viewing of TV material, as for movies, it offers a different way of viewing... Soap Opera style! hhehe... but still good, although I mainly use the VGA input so I dont get to use the DNM feature...on the pixel plus.
Irvin, hello! welcome to this thread ng mga taong sumasanib sa pixelplus. By the way since nandito ka narin, might as well ask a pixelplus related question... would you happen to know what the native resolution of the pixelplus is?
I'm using it with my HTPC, I get to display 720x480, 720x540, 800x600@50hz, 1024x768i, 1280x960i, 1280x1024i, and 1920x1080i.
I know most of those resolutions are based on 1080i timings, but I want to know what the real native resolution is so I can create a resolution that is machted pixel per pixel on the pixel plus.
Alam ko yung Samsung DLP has a native resolution of 1024x768p tama ba jackryan?
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wow dami ko na miss na messages hehehe. dont know where to begin...
Jackryan, welcome to the Pixelplus Club, hehehe.... I dont think you really need the service menu not unless the Picture is realy distorted which I doubt it is. Iba yung HTIB na kasama with the 29" so i dont know how much yours would cost... maganda na rin yan progressive na naman. Wala bang kasamang speakers yung HTIB?
nephilim, I use the pixel plus feature mainly for TV, it really improves the viewing of TV material, as for movies, it offers a different way of viewing... Soap Opera style! hhehe... but still good, although I mainly use the VGA input so I dont get to use the DNM feature...on the pixel plus.
Irvin, hello! welcome to this thread ng mga taong sumasanib sa pixelplus. By the way since nandito ka narin, might as well ask a pixelplus related question... would you happen to know what the native resolution of the pixelplus is?
I'm using it with my HTPC, I get to display 720x480, 720x540, 800x600@50hz, 1024x768i, 1280x960i, 1280x1024i, and 1920x1080i.
I know most of those resolutions are based on 1080i timings, but I want to know what the real native resolution is so I can create a resolution that is machted pixel per pixel on the pixel plus.
Alam ko yung Samsung DLP has a native resolution of 1024x768p tama ba jackryan?
I think you're right...
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Jackryan, welcome to the Pixelplus Club, hehehe.... I dont think you really need the service menu not unless the Picture is realy distorted which I doubt it is. Iba yung HTIB na kasama with the 29" so i dont know how much yours would cost... maganda na rin yan progressive na naman. Wala bang kasamang speakers yung HTIB?
Thanks pre... yes, the HTIB has speakers and everything included. It's a model LX3600D. I am still having a hard time disposing my current Sony HTIB/component for this baby. I figured that I am better off selling it untouched, brand-new and still in box. I found that current brand new selling price is about Php 21k. So I am thinking of dumping it for php 18k or so.
-jackryan 8)
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I hope you don't mind my butting in. I just thought I'd float this. I actually prefer the Pixel Plus over the Progressive Scan feature. Does anyone agree? Or do most you guys prefer the Progressive Scan feature?
i agree :) i've been thinking of upgrading to a widescreen tv but when i see those non-pixel plus tvs, i just can't help to think that i woulld be missing pixel plus a lot. kaya aabangan ko na lang cguro ang pagmura ng widescreen na pixel plus at sangayon ni misis ;D
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im dreaming to own one, and continously dreaming. kailan kaya? ???
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im dreaming to own one, and continously dreaming. kailan kaya? ???
Kung nahabol mo yung sale kahapon nag sale sila ng 53% off.
From Php 128,800.00 down to Php 59,900.00 for the model 34PT9420 (34" Real Flat, Pixel Plus)
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Philander, is this true? what's the catch? any idea? kung may nakabili nun.. that was a darn good deal!
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Philander, is this true? what's the catch? any idea? kung may nakabili nun.. that was a darn good deal!
Its true, nakabili ako last Tuesday but not Pixel Plus (di ko pa rin kaya ang price) just the 34" HDTV Progressive scan from 82,800 down to 39,900.00
http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=23796.0
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My new TV:
(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0RwAXA9gUCuute7RYFE1AvqhKk6C9JotKNRBxwMlC4q8HCOIQJtvn5JN2vR7eC9D5VOnQr!BZYw26eOz3Xj!1dvgdwcHvyGiP4dlIi!hk!iA/Philips340.jpg?dc=4675477779787658814)
With my Mordaunt Short 914
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SWEEEEET! ;D
Congratulations on your purchase bro!
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Its true, nakabili ako last Tuesday but not Pixel Plus (di ko pa rin kaya ang price) just the 34" HDTV Progressive scan from 82,800 down to 39,900.00
http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=23796.0
:o WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!! I missed this!!! I cant believe it had I known!!!! huhuhuhuhuhuh.... nakabili sana kami ng bagong TV! waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
sana i extend nila yung sale.... :-[
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:o WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!! I missed this!!! I cant believe it had I known!!!! huhuhuhuhuhuh.... nakabili sana kami ng bagong TV! waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
sana i extend nila yung sale.... :-[
i am in shock... ako rin... how could I have missed this....
may extension period pa kaya ????????????????????????????????????????
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does anybody own the Philips PW9527 36" Widescreen Pixel Plus TV? Just want to confirm if what the salesman told me is true that it does not have PIP. Their website says that the model has Dual Window and PIP but the local brochure doesn't. Can anyone confirm if this TV doesn't have PIP?
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to those who bought the philips tv's dun sa sale.......I ENVY YOU!!! my main fault was not checking with pinoydvd regularly for this one hellofa sale! why? when all the time i've been checking out the 29 pixel or hdtv at the appliance stores. shame on me!!!!
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to those who bought the philips tv's dun sa sale.......I ENVY YOU!!! my main fault was not checking with pinoydvd regularly for this one hellofa sale! why? when all the time i've been checking out the 29 pixel or hdtv at the appliance stores. shame on me!!!!
Well, now's your chance, there will be another sale starting monday (July 19)...
Good luck!
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Well, now's your chance, there will be another sale starting monday (July 19)...
Good luck!
Philander,
Can you please re-post the URL for the price and direction to the bodega sale?
salamat,
-jackryan 8)
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Philander,
Can you please re-post the URL for the price and direction to the bodega sale?
salamat,
-jackryan 8)
Please check the Philips Bodega Sale thread.
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Jackryan!!! nows our Chance!!!! mey sale ulit!!!
Philander..pls link the Bodega sale thread... tnx
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Jackryan!!! nows our Chance!!!! mey sale ulit!!!
Philander..pls link the Bodega sale thread... tnx
Okay, here it is:
http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=23796.0
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FS: BRAND NEW 36" PIXEL PLUS TV DISCOUNTED PRICE!!!
Guys,
I'm selling the NEW Philips PIXEL PLUS 36 INCHES WIDE ANGLE
PRICE is DISCOUNTED compared to the MALL price of P198,000.00
* BRAND NEW
* with 1 year HOME service warranty
* 2 years warranty on PICTURE TUBE
For INTERESTED BUYERS, please CALL: 09175003551; 09106649714
or email me at: [email protected] or U2U me.
visit link for PHOTO reference: http://www.audioenz.co.nz/2002/Philips_36PW9527.shtml
-ake
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Hi, just got my new 34 inch , 34pt9420 pixel plus TV from Philips bodega sale at 61 % discount from SRP. Picture is really amazing compared to my 29pt6360 flat interlaced TV. I have read posts re problem on cable TV signal ( im using destiny). There is this picture lag where a shadow is left out during fast scenes or when picture is moving. Has any owner of pixel plus connected with other cable network, like skycable experienced this? Im planning to make adjustments on antenna attenuator and to use a cable tv signal amplifier. Ill post my observations later.
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Hi, just got my new 34 inch , 34pt9420 pixel plus TV from Philips bodega sale at 61 % discount from SRP. Picture is really amazing compared to my 29pt6360 flat interlaced TV. I have read posts re problem on cable TV signal ( im using destiny). There is this picture lag where a shadow is left out during fast scenes or when picture is moving. Has any owner of pixel plus connected with other cable network, like skycable experienced this? Im planning to make adjustments on antenna attenuator and to use a cable tv signal amplifier. Ill post my observations later.
Akala ko ba sa 25/Nov~02/Dec yung Bodega Philips Sale. Saang sale ka nakabilli?
Thanks.
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Hi, just got my new 34 inch , 34pt9420 pixel plus TV from Philips bodega sale at 61 % discount from SRP. Picture is really amazing compared to my 29pt6360 flat interlaced TV. I have read posts re problem on cable TV signal ( im using destiny). There is this picture lag where a shadow is left out during fast scenes or when picture is moving. Has any owner of pixel plus connected with other cable network, like skycable experienced this? Im planning to make adjustments on antenna attenuator and to use a cable tv signal amplifier. Ill post my observations later.
that is a significant discount you got there... was it a display demo unit ? when and where did you get this btw ?
i think that's the feature of pixel plus... makes some scenes appear as if you are the one holding a DV cam infront of you.
-jackryan 8)
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I think its a demo unit. The sale is exclusive to philips employees for the moment and I happen to know some of them. The public bodega sale will be on Nov 25 to Dec 2 as posted here earlier. ;)
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I think its a demo unit. The sale is exclusive to philips employees for the moment and I happen to know some of them. The public bodega sale will be on Nov 25 to Dec 2 as posted here earlier. ;)
Sulit pa rin yan at 61% discount... did you also get the HTIB and also the stand for it ?
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Sulit pa rin yan at 61% discount... did you also get the HTIB and also the stand for it ?
Wala ng HTIB and stand but I got the original remote and manual. I have adjusted the antenna attenuator for all channels last night and majority of the cable channels improved a lot. Only those channels with weak signals are now affecte with visible picture shadows. I also tried viewing a p*dvd using progressive scan and the picture is really different as in 3 dimensional ang dating. Hek, even tv commercials looks a lot better. Ill post other observations once I connect the cable signal amplifier to further improve signal strength.
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Hi everybody. I just purchased a 29" pixelplus tv from the bodega sale at WTC. It is class c so that means I don't have the remote and manuals. I need your help in a couple of things: 1) for those who have the pdf version of the user's manual, please email it to me at [email protected]. I have looked all over the web and didn't find anything. 2) for those who have contact with philips service, can you please refer them to me, I want to order a remote control for my tv set. Thanks in advance for your help :)
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Hi everybody. I just purchased a 29" pixelplus tv from the bodega sale at WTC. It is class c so that means I don't have the remote and manuals. I need your help in a couple of things: 1) for those who have the pdf version of the user's manual, please email it to me at [email protected]. I have looked all over the web and didn't find anything. 2) for those who have contact with philips service, can you please refer them to me, I want to order a remote control for my tv set. Thanks in advance for your help :)
wow, lucky you... how much did you get it for ? I think you can use a universal remote for the Pixel Plus CRT.
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wow, lucky you... how much did you get it for ? I think you can use a universal remote for the Pixel Plus CRT.
Thanks, picture quality is really good as all of you have mentioned :) I got the unit for Php49900. Question: Can the universal RC control such settings as Pixel plus,DNM, etc...
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Hey guys,
By the way I might be selling my 29" inch Pixel Plus. Bought brandnew for 85k w stand which I bought for 4k. Thinking of selling the TV kasama stand for 68k. Been with me for 2 yrs pero alaga, never had to calibrate. Never left the comfort of my room.
Its a great set! I hate to say goodbye, love this TV.... but I have to move on and spend more for a bigger screen :D so I need the cash pan dagdag sa whatever TV I decide to purchase.
If anybody is interested txt nyo lang ako... 09178955717 I might just sell it outright (hard to let go of this TV eh!). The TV can be demo'd sa bahay, just let me know.. demo ko na rin ang HTPC ko hehehe.
Sorry mods alam ko dapat sa buy and sell, pero this is where people who are interested in the pixelplus hang out so this is the best place to put this special Item.
Thanks!
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Jpadua, nabenta mo na ba yun Pixelplus mo? I was thinking of selling mine too.. i'm going to move to a small condo unit soon.. as in small (studio) and baka palitan ko na lang ng lower inch plasma... i saw the 20-incher Hitachis and they may be a good replacement. Hindi ko na malalagay ang pixelplus ko sa loob kasi wala na talagang space.. it pains me to do this.. pero it's for the greater good of hometheater kind!
If anyone is interested din in my Pixelplus.. lemme know. PM or text me at 0920-9128978.
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Does anybody know how to remove the annoying "AV1" or "AV2" that appears when you select those channels when watching a movie? kinda irritating especially when they cross the area below the black bars
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Does anybody know how to remove the annoying "AV1" or "AV2" that appears when you select those channels when watching a movie? kinda irritating especially when they cross the area below the black bars
try pressing the "Display" button.
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go to picture menu, look for the display ____ something, I forgot, then select minimum.
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That's the OSD or OnScreenDisplay. Titanium is correct, set it to minimum. But if you do so, you won't be seeing a display when you adjust the volume of the tV
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That's the OSD or OnScreenDisplay. Titanium is correct, set it to minimum. But if you do so, you won't be seeing a display when you adjust the volume of the tV
Thays right, no OSD even for volume. Correction, the menu is found in Setting, General then OSD, select minimum. ;)
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thanks! ok lang walang display for volume. i set the volume to zero when watching dvds as i use the receiver's volume.
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i have the 29PT9420 pixelplus. anyone here know how can i make use of the AV3 and AV4 progressive scan inputs? i can't seem to make mine work.... or is it that mine is just busted?
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You can use the AV3-AV4 for progressive scan inputs. your dvd has to be set to output progressive output first before you can get any signal.
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Hi question lang po. Kasi may nacanvass ako dito sa Dubai na Pixel Plus model 29PT9421, nasa 42K pesos lang. If ever ipapaship ko yung dyan sa pinas. magkano aabutin lahat lahat and kung mas makakamura ba ako kung dyan ko bibilhin? Thanks.
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just want to share. philips flat tv's are on sale at mc home depot (fort). price ranges from 19-20k++. i think they are display units. i checked them out and they seem to look as good as new.
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I just bought 29PT9420 from a local friend. Can i join this club? Do u have jackets ... hehehe.
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Congrats to the Pixel Plus members :) so far yun 29" ko buhay pa rin :) hihi
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Hi question lang po. Kasi may nacanvass ako dito sa Dubai na Pixel Plus model 29PT9421, nasa 42K pesos lang. If ever ipapaship ko yung dyan sa pinas. magkano aabutin lahat lahat and kung mas makakamura ba ako kung dyan ko bibilhin? Thanks.
Same price dito sa Singapore (1.3ksgd=42K pesos). Check mo dyan sa mga cargo services sa Dubai. Dito sa Singapore, delivery can cost u around 200sgd (=6.6kpesos) when sending to Manila.
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To the veteran members of this club:
Advise naman kung ano ang best o recommended video settings (eg contrast, brightness etc) for model 29PT9420.
Thanks.
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Need help!! My pixel plus 29" is acting up. Its been running smooth for almost 3 years now. But now I'm getting weird horizontal distortion when watching normal tv broadcast and nagkaroon ng white line sa taas pag progressive. Anybody encountered these problems before? Do any of you know if philips does home service and what the number is? Masyadong mabigat dalin yung tv sa service center. I'm sure you guys all know that. Hehehe.
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You can use the AV3-AV4 for progressive scan inputs. your dvd has to be set to output progressive output first before you can get any signal.
I got the same problem. It is working on AV1 component input but not on AV3 & AV4 even when dvd player prog scan is enabled and upscaled. Any further advise?
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I got the same problem. It is working on AV1 component input but not on AV3 & AV4 even when dvd player prog scan is enabled and upscaled. Any further advise?
Try this. This is what I do with my pixel plus and enjoying progressive scan. Note : Im using a philips prog scan DVD player.
You cannot switch to prog scan by just connecting your prog scan dvd player to AV3 or 4. To connect propertly follw thses steps:
1. Connect your DVD player to the the AV 3 or 4 using YBR component inputs.
2. Use another interconnect and connect dvd player to another non-progressive TV input, say side input using the ordinary composite connection.
3. Select the non-progressive channel on TV, open dvd player, go to set up menu.
4. On set up menu, go to selection of progressive scan, select YES,then shift the tv channel to AV3 or 4 quickly. Dont forget to remove the side/or non-progressive connection.
5. You are now tuned to progressive scan using AV3 or 4.
Hope this helps. I dont know for other brand of DVD players.
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Try this. This is what I do with my pixel plus and enjoying progressive scan. Note : Im using a philips prog scan DVD player.
You cannot switch to prog scan by just connecting your prog scan dvd player to AV3 or 4. To connect propertly follw thses steps:
1. Connect your DVD player to the the AV 3 or 4 using YBR component inputs.
2. Use another interconnect and connect dvd player to another non-progressive TV input, say side input using the ordinary composite connection.
3. Select the non-progressive channel on TV, open dvd player, go to set up menu.
4. On set up menu, go to selection of progressive scan, select YES,then shift the tv channel to AV3 or 4 quickly. Dont forget to remove the side/or non-progressive connection.
5. You are now tuned to progressive scan using AV3 or 4.
Hope this helps. I dont know for other brand of DVD players.
Pre, did this before but still no picture showing when selecting AV3 or AV4. Must be on my panasonic player, i will try on my pioneer this weekend. Thanks.
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Pre, did this before but still no picture showing when selecting AV3 or AV4. Must be on my panasonic player, i will try on my pioneer this weekend. Thanks.
Oks na, sa panasonic player ko nga. I still have to set as 480p on a different paramter although naka-default na as progessive scan.
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Good for you Jt, enjoy your tv. ;D
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To anyone near Sucat area, there's a 36" tru-flat widscreen Philips Pixel plus TV at SM Appliance Sucat selling for less than 60T cash and about 64T card. I believe this is a display model which I was drooling at early this year. It was selling for around 150T if i recall right. Didn't get the model but it could be a 2004 model.
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Help!!! Help!!! Help!!!
:'(
I just got a call from Philips service center telling me that my 29" Pixel Plus has to have its SSB replaced cuz the technician can't fix it anymore. That's the central processing board of the tv. Which brings me to my next declaration. Its P37,000.00!!!! for that part alone!
Can somebody help me out?!?! Anyone know whereelse I might be able to have it repaired. I can't afford or wouldn't like to spend P40,000 (inclusive of labor) just to have it repaired.
Otherwise, it'll just be junk in my room.
Help!!
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Wow, you can buy a new 29" TV for that amount. ???
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Yup! Thats exactly what I told the Philips service center people. Any suggestions??
Maybe I should just sell it.... ???
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bundy, try to contact direct sa philips plant service dept ( las Pinas) I think the part is only P15k but you can even get it lower ( used ) kung makiusap ka. I hope this helps.
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Talaga????? Thanks!!! Sige, I'll try that
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I don't know if I'm lucky or minamalas.... but finally my tv's been repaired and I only had to pay P3k for labor charges... Here's the thing, the technicians at Philips are, to put it lightly, slightly incompetent. It took an engineer from their head office to happen to pass by, to see the problem, troubleshoot it... and diagnose that it just needed to be recalibrated. I'm relieved and so happy that my tv's ok again... but I really don't know what to make of those technicians who couldn't repair my tv and thus recommended replacing the entire short signal board....
What do you guys think?
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Good for you. Philips plant engineers are really more competent, They know the real in and outs of the unit. Philips Tvs are imported from China though Singapore. In Singapore, they dismantle the tvs and export to the Phils. as unassembled Tv's so that tax is cheaper. Philips engineers then re assemble the tvs using coded parts as guide and conduct tests. Thats why they know the parts well and they have all the parts needed in case of repairs. In case of problems on Philips TV's try to contact plant technicians in their Las Pinas factory. Im not connected with Philips, I happen to have friends lanf doon. ;)
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Yeah. I spoke with the engineer who fixed my tv. There was just a small resistor or something that he replaced. Di na nga niya sinama sa service fee kasi maliit lang na part. Tapos ni-recalibrate na niya. Tapos ok na. He also advised me to not leave my tv on in standby mode for longer than a few minutes. Tumatakbo pa kasi yung power supply pag ganun at pag nag spike ang kuryente, baka maapektuhan yung tv. I should turn it off completely.
But all in all I was satisfied with the engineer's service. I'm not too happy about the actual service center. I wish they'd train they're technicians better.
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Mga Fafi, what the difference between a 34PT9420/69R and a 34PT9420/71. the XXXX/71 now retails for about 50K in SM appliance stores but have not seen the XXXX/69R? Just curious.
Thanks.
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Hi guyz! I also bought a 34" Philips Pixel plus at a discounted price for only P49.9++ and I believe it is a display unit. I bought it only last March of this year and already I am planning to sell it. The reason is, I can't use the 1080i signal that it can display with the use of upscaling dvd players. By the way, I need your suggestions of how I can utilize the 1080i that this set can display using any dvd upscaling players? Most dvd-upscaling players which outputs 1080i high definition signals uses either HDMI or DVI interface, and it seems I cannot use this pixel plus to output this high definition signal since it does not have any of these terminals at the back. It only have both the component and RGB/VGA connections at the rear side (AV3 and AV4 input for HD signals). I'm thinking of using a DVI to VGA converter to hook-up this set with an up-scaling dvd player such as samsung. Do u guyz think if it would work? By the way, this may be the primary reason y am planning to sell this t.v. set. To avoid the hassle and just buy an lcd or plasma with that has these types of terminals. Anybody interested? Just email me at [email protected] or text me at 09192801529.
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xx xx xx. He also advised me to not leave my tv on in standby mode for longer than a few minutes. Tumatakbo pa kasi yung power supply pag ganun at pag nag spike ang kuryente, baka maapektuhan yung tv. I should turn it off completely.
xx xx xx.
My TV is autovolt and always plugged to a 110V socket as protection against current surges. I turn it off completely only when I am away for extended periods.
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Good for you. Philips plant engineers are really more competent, They know the real in and outs of the unit. Philips Tvs are imported from China though Singapore. In Singapore, they dismantle the tvs and export to the Phils. as unassembled Tv's so that tax is cheaper. Philips engineers then re assemble the tvs using coded parts as guide and conduct tests. Thats why they know the parts well and they have all the parts needed in case of repairs. In case of problems on Philips TV's try to contact plant technicians in their Las Pinas factory. Im not connected with Philips, I happen to have friends lanf doon. ;)
Sir, can I have the number of the plant technicians in Las Pinas. I live nearby e. Thanks.
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Hi guyz! I also bought a 34" Philips Pixel plus at a discounted price for only P49.9++ and I believe it is a display unit. I bought it only last March of this year and already I am planning to sell it. The reason is, I can't use the 1080i signal that it can display with the use of upscaling dvd players. By the way, I need your suggestions of how I can utilize the 1080i that this set can display using any dvd upscaling players? Most dvd-upscaling players which outputs 1080i high definition signals uses either HDMI or DVI interface, and it seems I cannot use this pixel plus to output this high definition signal since it does not have any of these terminals at the back. It only have both the component and RGB/VGA connections at the rear side (AV3 and AV4 input for HD signals). I'm thinking of using a DVI to VGA converter to hook-up this set with an up-scaling dvd player such as samsung. Do u guyz think if it would work? By the way, this may be the primary reason y am planning to sell this t.v. set. To avoid the hassle and just buy an lcd or plasma with that has these types of terminals. Anybody interested? Just email me at [email protected] or text me at 09192801529.
One solution is to find a dvd player that upconverts thru component video if Im not mistaken. Sayang naman yan kung yan lang reason for letting it go di ba? Other members can help you!! ;D
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yung pixel plus ko na 29", medyo nagkaproblema. nabuksan ng tatay ko sa channel na mahina signal kaya nag-auto mute. kaso halos naitodo naman volume kaya paglipat sa ch na maganda signal sumobra naman sa lakas. pansin ko ngayon, nag-blurred ang graphics niya. soft na edges kahit yung mga on-screen graphics ny. anyone encountered this? me idea ba kayo kung ano problema nito? saan kaya pwede patingnan? thanks po.
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update on my 29" pixel plus. my previously defective unit is now fixed and perfectly working. sabi from the philips service center eh flyback daw naging problema. thanks for the extended warranty, wala akong ginastos kundi yung transpo pagpunta at pagkuha sa service center. sulit na sulit ibinayad ko dun sa extended warranty. even as naka-extended din 5500s na dvd player ko, sana naman di ito magluko. hassle din talaga lalo na sa bulky item as large screen tv.
Try this. This is what I do with my pixel plus and enjoying progressive scan. Note : Im using a philips prog scan DVD player.
You cannot switch to prog scan by just connecting your prog scan dvd player to AV3 or 4. To connect propertly follw thses steps:
1. Connect your DVD player to the the AV 3 or 4 using YBR component inputs.
2. Use another interconnect and connect dvd player to another non-progressive TV input, say side input using the ordinary composite connection.
3. Select the non-progressive channel on TV, open dvd player, go to set up menu.
4. On set up menu, go to selection of progressive scan, select YES,then shift the tv channel to AV3 or 4 quickly. Dont forget to remove the side/or non-progressive connection.
5. You are now tuned to progressive scan using AV3 or 4.
Hope this helps. I dont know for other brand of DVD players.
thanks to titanium, i tried this approach and it worked. ganda din pala deinterlacer ng 5500s kahit walang upscaler. comparable or better than the tv's pixel plus.
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Anyone knows if this model 36PW9527 can take 720p/1080i via one of its component input?
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just got my oppo 980. i wanted to try the 1080i inputs of my pixel plus. as jpadua as said before, there is a white line on top and the screen will seem to be compressed. I even had a philips technician adjust it but the settings didn't hold when he left. out of desperation, i pressed the stretch button below the hd button on my remote and suddenly the white line disappears and the picture is in the right aspect ratio. :D just sharing for owners of this tv.
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bump...
any sighting of this type of TV? i'm in the market for a 29" and based on the posts here, Pixel Plus talaga pinaka-okay.
did Philips stop production for this model na ba?
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theres somebody in PDVD selling this TV, second hand. Just search for it.
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Titanium & bundy, sent you PMs.
Than you.