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Title: Samsung LED-backlit LCD Panels
Post by: Mouldingo on Jul 24, 2008 at 06:17 PM
(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2295/72308samsungle46a950lcdvi5.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)


Can't say we're surprised to see 'em, but Sammy has done its due diligence by pumping out the official verbiage for the 9 Series LCD HDTVs that were leaked late last week. These second-generation LED-backlit sets feature 1080p Ultra Clear panels, Auto Motion Plus 120Hz technology, 1,000,000:1 dynamic contrast ratios, the familiar Touch of Color design and a smattering of networking technologies like InfoLink (RSS access) and WiseLink Pro. Additionally, both the 46-inch LN46A950 (pictured) and 55-inch LN55A950 feature 4-millisecond response times, down-firing speakers with a built-in subbie, an integrated NTSC / ATSC / ClearQAM tuner, four HDMI-CEC ports, a PC input, Ethernet socket and a pair of component jacks. Look for each to land next month for $3,199.99 and $4,199.99, respectively.
Title: Re: Samsung gets official with LED-backlit 9 Series LCD HDTVs
Post by: DViant on Jul 25, 2008 at 11:28 AM
This will solve LCD's slightly worse picture quality and lower your power bills a whole lot more.
Title: Re: Samsung gets official with LED-backlit 9 Series LCD HDTVs
Post by: jackryan on May 01, 2009 at 12:29 PM
hopefully local prices would go down to more reasonable range shortly... otherwise, the alternative is to import this from the US or something...

how much power savings / avoidance do we anticipate once we shift to LED based TV compared to the LCD version?
Title: Re: Samsung gets official with LED-backlit 9 Series LCD HDTVs
Post by: Moks007 on May 05, 2009 at 09:10 AM
I don't know if this is the same model that I saw in Listening in Style last night. But man the 55 inch samsung LED on display I saw last night just wowed me. Grabe awesome talaga, fantastic picture, super thin. Makes you go, yan ang hidef talaga. I'm a pro-lcd guy, so maybe bias ako hehe..Its around 329 thou. Well, can't afford it, just dreaming. ;D
Title: Re: Samsung gets official with LED-backlit 9 Series LCD HDTVs
Post by: pchin on May 05, 2009 at 10:53 AM
I don't know if this is the same model that I saw in Listening in Style last night. But man the 55 inch samsung LED on display I saw last night just wowed me. Grabe awesome talaga, fantastic picture, super thin.

I will check it out in Listening in Style this week! Really gorgeous! :D
Title: Re: Samsung gets official with LED-backlit 9 Series LCD HDTVs
Post by: pooch on May 08, 2009 at 01:14 PM
SRPs  ;D

UA46B6000 SRP: P194,900
UA40B7000 SRP: P174,900
UA46B7000 SRP: P209,900
UA55B7000 SRP: P259,900
Title: Re: Samsung gets official with LED-backlit 9 Series LCD HDTVs
Post by: Moks007 on May 08, 2009 at 10:12 PM
SRPs  ;D

UA46B6000 SRP: P194,900
UA40B7000 SRP: P174,900
UA46B7000 SRP: P209,900
UA55B7000 SRP: P259,900

Is that right? the srp of the 55 inch is 259 thou. Wow great price na..
Cash price probably 220 thou or even less ;D
Title: Re: Samsung gets official with LED-backlit 9 Series LCD HDTVs
Post by: E-reply on May 08, 2009 at 10:31 PM
Is that right? the srp of the 55 inch is 259 thou. Wow great price na..
Cash price probably 220 thou or even less ;D

Call up Sights and Sounds 0917-5413491 for cash deal.
Title: Re: Samsung gets official with LED-backlit 9 Series LCD HDTVs
Post by: DViant on May 09, 2009 at 06:15 PM
I am unsure about the legitimacy but http://remalsales.multiply.com/journal/item/11/Introducing.._Samsung_LED_TV
Title: Re: Samsung gets official with LED-backlit 9 Series LCD HDTVs
Post by: anchit on May 10, 2009 at 10:32 AM
i saw a newspaper ad yesterday, they have LED kahit sa series 7.
Title: Re: Samsung gets official with LED-backlit 9 Series LCD HDTVs
Post by: mac_mini on May 10, 2009 at 04:00 PM
sir vic and others, kamusta performance nito? Mukha na bang plasma? Or still LCD picture quality? Natural looking na ba ang picture nito or mukhang regular LCD?
Title: Re: Samsung gets official with LED-backlit 9 Series LCD HDTVs
Post by: Moks007 on May 11, 2009 at 02:51 PM
i saw a newspaper ad yesterday, they have LED kahit sa series 7.

AFAIK, The newly introduced series 7 on May 8, 2009 are the ones that have LED, the regular series 7 that we have before are not yet the LED series.

I am unsure about the legitimacy but http://remalsales.multiply.com/journal/item/11/Introducing.._Samsung_LED_TV

I think there are indeed some stores quoting na cash price  below 200 thou for the 55 inches (have to double check, baka na misquote sa akin hehe)..Hopefully 120 thou na by Christmas.. ;D
Title: Re: Samsung gets official with LED-backlit 9 Series LCD HDTVs
Post by: oReOsHaKe on May 11, 2009 at 03:02 PM
Very nice pic quality ng LED LCD ng samsung.. pero baka na crank up lang rin ang settings sa appliance store kung san ko nakita..
Title: Samsung LED Panels
Post by: Carlo777 on May 15, 2009 at 01:07 PM
Guys, I placed a reservation for one of these new models from Samsung. Now before I finalize my commitment may I hear a few impressions. If any, if ever, and a big thank you in advance.
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on May 15, 2009 at 01:33 PM
Probably you wont be seeing a good number of feedbacks for awhile, since kaka-introduce lang nito sa market.

For me, di muna ako gagastos agad agad for a first generation product, malamang babagsak pa ang presyo niyan after a few months and the next models for sure will be better. 

Pero I'm really excited about the wireless LAN Feature nung LED Series 7 & 8, sana yung Series 7 LCD nila linagyan na nila at sinamahan nung wireless adopter.
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: blued888 on May 15, 2009 at 04:02 PM
Does my memory serve me correct that the 40-inch model of Samsung which uses LED is around 150k thereabouts?
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: comitatus on May 16, 2009 at 12:52 AM
Does my memory serve me correct that the 40-inch model of Samsung which uses LED is around 150k thereabouts?

We (Carlo777 & I ) are looking at the Sammy UA40B7000 that is around 150k, so yep it's within that range. Also on our list is the UA46B7000 clocking in at mga 180k.
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: lucky023 on May 16, 2009 at 10:08 AM
wow you guys are philthy rich!  ;D
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: Carlo777 on May 16, 2009 at 01:25 PM
wow you guys are philthy rich!  ;D

Nah! Anyway, if the LED tech is really nice, we plan to sell off our Tosh, and the 40A650 to cover some of the cost.
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: deo on May 16, 2009 at 01:39 PM
wow...ang mahal..almost 100k ang idadagdag mo compare sa ordinary 40" full hD tv.is really worth it?
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: Carlo777 on May 16, 2009 at 02:16 PM
wow...ang mahal..almost 100k ang idadagdag mo compare sa ordinary 40" full hD tv.is really worth it?

That's why we need some feed back before the plunge ;)
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: E-reply on May 16, 2009 at 04:02 PM
Does my memory serve me correct that the 40-inch model of Samsung which uses LED is around 150k thereabouts?

We have 40B7000 at P150K 12 months. Call for cash price. You may wish to come and take a look and compare with other TVs on display side-by-side.  :)
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: E-reply on May 16, 2009 at 04:04 PM
We (Carlo777 & I ) are looking at the Sammy UA40B7000 that is around 150k, so yep it's within that range. Also on our list is the UA46B7000 clocking in at mga 180k.

UA40B7000, UA46B7000 and UA55B7000 are now available at Sights and Sounds. Free speaker bar HT-SB1 when you purchase the TV before May 31, 2009.  :D

Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: E-reply on May 16, 2009 at 04:06 PM
That's why we need some feed back before the plunge ;)

Carlo, come to the shop and take a look at Samsung LED already on display. Hopefully, you may put up another good review.  ;)
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: Carlo777 on May 16, 2009 at 06:20 PM
Carlo, come to the shop and take a look at Samsung LED already on display. Hopefully, you may put up another good review.  ;)

Yes, I'll drop by around Sunday or Monday late per our conversation. My points of comparison (bec. of the price of the unit) will be the Sony X, Sammy 6 and the PY800. If you have a Kuro, it will also be nice way to throw it in for good measure.

Thank you for accommodating my numerous requests. Mahal kasi ;)
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: eksi on May 16, 2009 at 06:31 PM
bosing request  :)sana may actual pics din pag post nyo ng review, salamat po
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: Carlo777 on May 16, 2009 at 06:51 PM
bosing request  :)sana may actual pics din pag post nyo ng review, salamat po

Maganda yan sir, but 6300 lang ang phone ko and I get "green/blue" dots when I take screen shots. Kung may time wife ko, I guess she can do a video review and upload it over YouTube. It's something we've talked about and hopefully she agrees. Mas sanay siya infront of a camera and mas candid dating nya compared to me.

Plans pa lang yan, and let's just hope hindi kami mag sawa bigla sa hobby. Ako kasi malapit na :D
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: chris69ners on May 16, 2009 at 07:31 PM
Just saw this 7 series yesterday at Anson's trinoma. Yea, very impressive and sharp pic quality, very very thin pa when you look at it from the sides it's like an inch and a half thick lang or even less. Black bars on the hd hulk demo playin produced very inky blacks. Almost as black as the piano finish frame. But after looking at it for a while, I noticed imperfections pa din. The display unit was a 40 inch model priced at 150K+, forgot the specific model though. I dont know if it was the material being played or if it was just me but the pic looked very grainy as my gf also noticed and agreed. Even from a 6 foot distance it was still quite visible.

Another thing was black levels were somewhat crushed. Portions which should still show details were already lost. In my thoughts, maybe this can be easily fixed by tweaking the pic settings.

And lastly, eto ang pamatay, there was already a dead pixel on the lower left corner portion of the screen and sakto pa dun sa lower black bar ng program material!

I called the attention of the salesperson and showed him the dead pixel, he looked very surprised when he saw it, nodded, and just smiled at us . I asked him if for example I bought one and I find a dead pixel, let's say within a month, will you replace it immediately? His reply was "I'm sorry sir, it has to be eight or more pixels before we can replace it." Ganun??! Yikes!!! :o Natakot ako sa sagot nya! Umm.. ok thanks! (with fake smiles on our faces as we left) ;D In my mind mag plasma pa rin ako when its time to upgrade.



Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: tebenets on May 17, 2009 at 10:16 PM
katakot yun ah...

but if mas electricity efficient siya compared with plasma, ok siya. pero wait mode muna....
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: junkun13 on May 18, 2009 at 03:23 AM
katakot talaga yon ang mahal sabay sablay ang warranty for dead pixels   :-\
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: arches111 on May 18, 2009 at 08:30 AM
@carlo777 i am to looking for this unit... sayang 'yon free sound bar this month. but what's keeping me off is the uneven luminance around the screen causing dark background to produce deeper black therefore loosing the background details and when you adj colour settings the PQ details to falls to the level of todays LCD. maybe i need more time to calibrate it to produce the accurate colour. can you comment on this... 
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: Moks007 on May 18, 2009 at 04:42 PM
Here is a review of the UA467000. I'm dreaming on the 55 incher ;D
http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/home_av/tvs/0,39037585,44694271p,00.htm
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: anchit on May 19, 2009 at 01:43 AM
i saw the 55 and 40" led in action. Side by side with the 6 and 5 series. 55" being sold for 249k and 159k for the 40incher. They are really  slim! Thats all.ü

No way in hell they will be able to convince me to get the led version versus the 5 and 6 series. Aside from the fact na super slim sya, the very minute improvement in picture quality is not a worth its price tag.

If i were to do a blind test, will tell which one is led and which one is the old series 5 and 6, im pretty suree na mapagpapalit ko sila.

If i have the money to spend for the led model, id rather get 2 series 5s or 6s.


Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: Alfie on May 19, 2009 at 07:54 AM
I also scrutinized the 40" LED at Avent in Greenbelt, and it's my opinion that the prices will soon dive to current LCD levels, or maybe even less.

It may even be the Flat panel of choice for all middle income families, once digital broadcasting becomes the norm, and may at this point send our LCDs to obsolence.(after the demise of the plasma,that is)  :'(

Imagine thier 55" has an introductory price of Php250K, that's a lot cheaper than when the 40" LCDs and 50" Plasma panels were introduced to the public market.(Also remember the Samsung DLPs selling for >250K)  :o

I'll probably shift to LED once the prices hovers down to the current LCD prices, and will probably get myself the 55". As far as PQ & AQ is concerned, I think it approximates the current 1080P LCDs in the market, my only misgiving i sthat this is probably more prone to dead pixels.

I also expect 60" LEDs in the future,and indeed the 42" flat panels (bypass the 32" of the short lived LCDs)will probably be the household set when compared to the 21" of the yesteryears CRTs.  ::)
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: Moks007 on May 19, 2009 at 09:58 AM
i saw the 55 and 40" led in action. Side by side with the 6 and 5 series. 55" being sold for 249k and 159k for the 40incher. They are really  slim! Thats all.ü

No way in hell they will be able to convince me to get the led version versus the 5 and 6 series. Aside from the fact na super slim sya, the very minute improvement in picture quality is not a worth its price tag.

If i were to do a blind test, will tell which one is led and which one is the old series 5 and 6, im pretty suree na mapagpapalit ko sila.

If i have the money to spend for the led model, id rather get 2 series 5s or 6s.




First in showrooms they have to be calibrated to see the "real" diff, and imo bring your batman begins blu-ray or dvd to compare (bec of the dark scenes). If one is going for a 40 incher, then I agree with you that it may be senseless to go with this led tv bec of its price diff. A 46 incher maybe pa..But this tv really looks sexy imo and eventually prices will drop anyway 8). A 52 incher vs this 55 incher, I will take this 55 incher any day if I have the cash ;D ( My preference for lcd over plasma, also no 55 incher for the series 5,6,7).  A place already quoted me cash price of 197 thou. Price diff may be 50 to 80 thou? vs. 52 inchers? I think its worth it, better blacks, sexy, slim, 3 inches more..Kulang lang mga women sa hot or not thread ma view ko dito sa 55 incher. That would look fantastic :D ;D

I can also say the same thing with the panasonic plasma (no bad intention). 50pv70, 80 vs 50py800 or the newer models. Is there really a big difference in pq? I haven't seen them side by side so I can't comment on this, but same points can be made. :)
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: Carlo777 on May 19, 2009 at 01:45 PM
I'll check this unit on Thurs and see if it does give a measure of difference from our current A650 and Sony X. I'm not really into T.V designs, so my decision will be purely based on picture quality.

Thank you for your valuable inputs.
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: Moks007 on May 19, 2009 at 02:16 PM
Sir Carlo, here is something to confuse you even more ;D if you are looking at the samsungs :)

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1147862
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: arches111 on May 19, 2009 at 09:39 PM
@Carlo

the new Sammy's B750 & Sony's W5500  :D are out better include them on your review! I saw the new Samsung B Series7 on display at MOA this afternoon.. kaka display lang ata nila w/t LED's. Too bad i did not have the chance to test them side by side coz no player was attached :( panay USB gamit nila :-\


I'll check this unit on Thurs and see if it does give a measure of difference from our current A650 and Sony X. I'm not really into T.V designs, so my decision will be purely based on picture quality.

Thank you for your valuable inputs.
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: Carlo777 on May 20, 2009 at 02:09 AM
@Carlo

the new Sammy's B750 & Sony's W5500  :D are out better include them on your review! I saw the new Samsung B Series7 on display at MOA this afternoon.. kaka display lang ata nila w/t LED's. Too bad i did not have the chance to test them side by side coz no player was attached :( panay USB gamit nila :-\



Sure my lord^

I'll go to Sights and Sounds and Abenson within the week so if you guys want me to check out a particular model just let me know.

 ;)
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: Carlo777 on May 20, 2009 at 02:10 AM
Sir Carlo, here is something to confuse you even more ;D if you are looking at the samsungs :)

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1147862


Hehehe, sure boss will read them :)
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: Mouldingo on May 20, 2009 at 08:18 AM
Interesting very in-depth review from avforums...

Review: Samsung UE40B6000 LED LCD TV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHv-sonQu8I)

May isang test na may obvious dimming issue  :P :P :P

"I just can't bring myself to recommend this to enthusiast or videophiles..."
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: eksi on May 20, 2009 at 12:45 PM
Was about to see Samsung LED Series 7 in Shangrila
IMO the picture quality can't still match the Pioneer Kuro
For me the Panasonic plasma is still next to Kuro
However, the other features of Samsung LED are impressive (especially its slim feature)
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: TeddyCuds on May 20, 2009 at 01:31 PM
UA40B7000, UA46B7000 and UA55B7000 are now available at Sights and Sounds. Free speaker bar HT-SB1 when you purchase the TV before May 31, 2009.  :D



Sir Vic, how much lang yun soundbar HT-SB1? Pls PM me the price. thanks!
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: Nemesis91 on May 21, 2009 at 03:30 PM
Interesting very in-depth review from avforums...

Review: Samsung UE40B6000 LED LCD TV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHv-sonQu8I)

May isang test na may obvious dimming issue  :P :P :P

"I just can't bring myself to recommend this to enthusiast or videophiles..."

Yup too pale for my eyes. ;)

Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: Mouldingo on May 21, 2009 at 05:14 PM
Samsung UE40B6000VW LED LCD TV Review
Does LED lighting have the edge? Phil Hinton examines Samsung’s slimmest TV…so far!


Conclusion
If you have made it this far and just finished the last paragraph you will quite rightly assume I can’t recommend this screen for those who want the very best in picture performance – you see I can state the obvious! However that doesn’t mean that this screen won’t sell and that people won’t think it’s fantastic. Obviously, AVForums members will want the very best their money can buy, and may well have doubts about the B6000. I really wanted to like this TV and its slim design does look stunning. Indeed, it is almost a piece of contemporary art. Obviously, we would always recommend a screen that can produce accurate images to the standards for film and broadcast when properly calibrated. To watch it in any other way, is to choose your personal preference over what is defined as 'correct'. That is definitely not something we would ever recommend, but understand that there will be many that do.

With bright and vibrant images and set up in its standard mode, it will look good in a retail environment to the casual consumer. And as such it will find its market if used as just a living room work horse with freeview by a customer not looking for the ultimate in image quality or accuracy. It will do well in most homes where normal LCD screens would fit the bill and it will fulfil its promise. But this LCD TV will never look accurate due to these flaws.

The UE40B6000 is a frustrating product that is likely to split opinions over its picture attributes. On the one hand its design looks stunning, the thinness of the screen is sublime and the SD picture processing is first class. On the other, it fails to produce accurate images, (even after calibration), and it’s auto dimming with gamma shifts just causes more issues than it solves. I have never been so enthralled, yet so utterly disappointed with a display product so far in my reviewing career. It will find many new homes and sell very well, of that I have no doubt, and I would be surprised if it didn’t. And for a new technology it is also reasonably priced at £1260 online from suppliers Direct TVs. But for me and based on testing, retesting and watching hours of material, the B6000 is just too much of a compromise to recommend it to anyone looking for accurate image quality. And that’s an outcome we could have done without, because as a TV and technology statement, it should have been so much better.

Pros
-Stunning design and seriously thin!
-Plenty of added features, such as iPod connectivty
-Well designed EPG
-Menu control and layout is straight forward and well designed
-Calibration tools included as standard in main menu system
-Excellent scaling and picture processing for material

Cons
-Calibration results look good in software, but ineffective in actual control over the on screen image - hence score below, even though graphs looked ok.
-Edge LED technology is flawed with uniformity issues and auto dimming which cannot be defeated due to how the technology works :-\
-Gamma issues across stimulus points and on screen
-Inaccurate colour and greyscale performance
-Laclustre audio performance

http://www.avforums.com/reviews/Samsung-UE40B6000VW-LED-LCD-TV-Review.html
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: E-reply on May 21, 2009 at 06:00 PM
Sir Vic, how much lang yun soundbar HT-SB1? Pls PM me the price. thanks!

The Samsung Sound Bar HTSB1 costs P11990. It is free for LED TV.
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: E-reply on May 21, 2009 at 06:59 PM
1 Unit Left...

55" LED 55B7000 at 12 months P224500. Call for cash deal.

Available at Sights and Sounds 6341789 to 90.
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: pantellica on May 23, 2009 at 10:05 PM
hehe plano mo pala to bro ha...nung bumile ako ng plasma last thursday..inusisa ko talaga tong LED since im also a fan of samsung lcd tv..and masasabe ko sa LEd nila na bago...wow! and ganda and malinaw talaga...pero sobrang mahal naman...saka nung tinitigan ko mabute may napansen pa din akong pixelated sa kanya..kumbaga plasma pa din best for me...so for me kesa dito sa overprice na LED na to..much better to buy na lang ng samsung 5 series or 6....price difference is huge na konte lang ang linaw na difference sa lcd na 5 to 6....

and sa tingen ko sa mga expert na mas sanay na at mas magaling tumingen saken ng linaw..tingen ko di nila recommended to..lalo na sa price nya.

just my opinion to LED tv. :D

OT....just want to extend my thanks to you  and post it here in forum for helping me to decide which tv to buy...i really appreciate it bro..you really helps a lot.  keep up the good work.GOD bless! :D mabuhay ka pare.
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: Carlo777 on May 24, 2009 at 01:17 PM
hehe plano mo pala to bro ha...nung bumile ako ng plasma last thursday..inusisa ko talaga tong LED since im also a fan of samsung lcd tv..and masasabe ko sa LEd nila na bago...wow! and ganda and malinaw talaga...pero sobrang mahal naman...saka nung tinitigan ko mabute may napansen pa din akong pixelated sa kanya..kumbaga plasma pa din best for me...so for me kesa dito sa overprice na LED na to..much better to buy na lang ng samsung 5 series or 6....price difference is huge na konte lang ang linaw na difference sa lcd na 5 to 6....

and sa tingen ko sa mga expert na mas sanay na at mas magaling tumingen saken ng linaw..tingen ko di nila recommended to..lalo na sa price nya.

just my opinion to LED tv. :D

OT....just want to extend my thanks to you  and post it here in forum for helping me to decide which tv to buy...i really appreciate it bro..you really helps a lot.  keep up the good work.GOD bless! :D mabuhay ka pare.

You're welcome, plasma is really perfect for your needs. Enjoy!

Back to topic, saw the LED model already, I'll do put down my observations later or tomorrow morning.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: Mouldingo on May 27, 2009 at 01:19 PM
Samsung UN46B6000

Product summary
The good:
 Produces relatively deep black levels; accurate color; very good dejudder processing; sleek styling with 1.2-inch thick panel; extensive picture controls; extremely energy-efficient.

The bad:
 Expensive; less-uniform screen than other LCDs; poor off-angle viewing; backlight fluctuates with program brightness; dark areas tinged bluer; shiny screen can cause reflections in bright rooms; red frame isn't for everyone.

The bottom line:
 Although it delivers fine picture quality, except for a few flaws, the ultrathin Samsung UNB6000 series will appeal mainly to style seekers who don't mind spending more money.

We're not the biggest fans of the UNB6000's fluctuating backlight, and we'd like to see a more-uniform picture for this much scratch, but otherwise its image quality leaves little to be desired. That said, numerous other HDTVs offer equal or better picture quality for less money, which makes high style and higher technology the main selling points of the UNB6000 series.

Series note: We performed a hands-on evaluation of the 46-inch Samsung UN46B6000 ($2,799), but this review also applies to the 40-inch UN40B7000 ($2,299) and the 55-inch UN55B7000 ($3,599). All three sizes share identical features and specifications.

(Editors' Note: Many elements are identical between the UNB6000 and the UNB7000 series we reviewed earlier, so readers of the earlier review may experience some deja vu when reading the same sections below.)

Features

Edge-lit LED backlighting heads the UNB6000's feature set. Samsung calls these sets "LED TVs," but it's important to remember they're actually otherwise normal liquid-crystal display TVs that use light-emitting diodes instead of the standard fluorescent backlights. Unlike the Sony KDL-55XBR8 and Samsung LN46A950, which both use local dimming technology that mounts the LEDs behind the screen, the UNB6000 series is edge-lit, with LEDs arranged around the edge of the screen.

http://reviews.cnet.com/2300-12982_7-10000628-1.html

The main difference between the UNB6000 series and the more-expensive UNB7000 models is its interactive capability.

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/samsung-un46b6000/4505-6482_7-33488069.html?tag=aislebut
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: arches111 on May 27, 2009 at 10:03 PM
more review from CNET.de
 
We think: The Samsung 40B7000 is a truly stunning TV. The Samsung 40B7000 is a truly stunning TV. While plasma TVs in the Bildqulität so far ahead had his Samsung shows ultra-shallow 40-inch frame-up with the LED backlighting LCDs that really are competitive. While plasma TVs in the Bildqulität so far ahead had his Samsung shows ultra-shallow 40-inch frame-up with the LED backlighting LCDs that really are competitive. Also convinced of 40B7000 through the integrated features such as Yahoo Widgets, and its ability to multimedia files from network media play. So convinced of 40B7000 through the integrated features such as Yahoo Widgets, and its ability to multimedia files from Network MediaPlayer. On top of the TV dominates the playing of files in the open MKV container format. On top of the TV dominate the playing of files open in the MKV container format.
 
What we like: excellent picture quality excellent image quality superior design outstanding design good online functionality good online functionality supports playback of media on the network supports playback of media on the network an impressive sound impressive sound.
 
What we do not like: light stains in the corners during very dark scenes Light stains in the corners during very dark scenes.

http://translate.google.com.ph/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnet.de%2Ftests%2Ftv%2F41002092%2Fsamsung%2B40b7000%2Bdrei%2Bzentimeter%2Bdicker%2Bled_hdtv.htm&sl=de&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: barrister on May 28, 2009 at 01:39 AM
Too bad.  Akala ko magaling na talaga ang LED LCD.

Uneven black levels and auto dimming are just unacceptable for me.
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: fernando_montalban on May 29, 2009 at 12:23 AM
Edge-lit LED backlighting heads the UNB6000's feature set. Samsung calls these sets "LED TVs," but it's important to remember they're actually otherwise normal liquid-crystal display TVs that use light-emitting diodes instead of the standard fluorescent backlights. Unlike the Sony KDL-55XBR8 and Samsung LN46A950, which both use local dimming technology that mounts the LEDs behind the screen, the UNB6000 series is edge-lit, with LEDs arranged around the edge of the screen.

Edge-lit LED backlighting = Dealbreaker
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: vx2 on May 29, 2009 at 12:25 AM
In a more optimistic news, HDGuru has christened the 8000 the best LCD out in the market...of course before the incoming release of Sony's 09 XBRs. :D

HDGuru (http://hdguru.com/samsung-un46b8000-240hz-lcd-led-tv-exclusive-first-review/429/)
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: Carlo777 on May 31, 2009 at 12:58 AM
Ok, I saw the unit already and did my usual round of "tests", I'll have to re-do the whole thing again on Monday. So far, I was not totally blown away by it, and maybe I need to refresh my eyes.

For those who sent me PM's for this model, I may have to delay my personal findings til Monday or Tuesday late. But I can answer one question already...

Q: Is the Samsung LED better than your "measuring rod" Sony X450 LCD? (pq)

No...Nope...No! Sorry it's a no!
Title: Samsung Series 7 LED TV
Post by: raptor on Jul 12, 2009 at 12:38 PM
Hi Guys,

I'd like to start this new topic to get feedback and observations from those who bought this new TV and for our sellers who get to compare the performance side-by-side with the othe other brands their selling.

I saw this model (Series 7 - 40inch) initially during my recent trip in Bangkok, and was able to thoroughly check it again yesterday at Robinsons Place in Manila.  Aesthetically, this seems to have no equal with the current competition - the unit is so thin, and the reddish blend on the external glass-like frame is really an eye catcher.  The demo is just showing slide show of stills (this is similar to what they are showing in Bangkok) - reason probably is that this model is really excellent on still pictures, colors are perfect including the blacks (but i haven't seen it side-by-side with a plasma tv).  Not sure however if the fast action movies would still be that impressive - need feedback here.

For those who are giving a lot of weight on aesthetics, this is an excellent choice.

Another quality that Samsung sellers are promoting about this new model is that it consumes 20% lesser energy than similar size LCD TV's and likely much lesser compared to plasma TV's.  The price on AC Surfer however is quite stiff - PhP 170k card price, PhP 150k cash ... not sure if how much our PDVD sellers is giving this away
Title: Re: Samsung Series 7 LED TV
Post by: E-reply on Jul 13, 2009 at 03:33 PM
Hi Guys,

I'd like to start this new topic to get feedback and observations from those who bought this new TV and for our sellers who get to compare the performance side-by-side with the othe other brands their selling.

I saw this model (Series 7 - 40inch) initially during my recent trip in Bangkok, and was able to thoroughly check it again yesterday at Robinsons Place in Manila.  Aesthetically, this seems to have no equal with the current compe***on - the unit is so thin, and the reddish blend on the external glass-like frame is really an eye catcher.  The demo is just showing slide show of stills (this is similar to what they are showing in Bangkok) - reason probably is that this model is really excellent on still pictures, colors are perfect including the blacks (but i haven't seen it side-by-side with a plasma tv).  Not sure however if the fast action movies would still be that impressive - need feedback here.

For those who are giving a lot of weight on aesthetics, this is an excellent choice.

Another quality that Samsung sellers are promoting about this new model is that it consumes 20% lesser energy than similar size LCD TV's and likely much lesser compared to plasma TV's.  The price on AC Surfer however is quite stiff - PhP 170k card price, PhP 150k cash ... not sure if how much our PDVD sellers is giving this away

We sell US40b7000 at P133K with free HT-SB1 sound bar.  :D

Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: djdeejay on Jul 13, 2009 at 07:11 PM
where is the chreapest to buy?
Title: Re: Samsung Series 7 LED TV
Post by: Mouldingo on Jul 14, 2009 at 07:12 AM
If you want to spare yourself any regrets for purchasing an overpriced LCD purely on aesthetics... :P :P :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHv-sonQu8I

http://www.avforums.com/reviews/Samsung-UE40B6000VW-LED-LCD-TV-Review.html

Edge LED technology is flawed with uniformity issues and auto dimming which cannot be defeated due to how the technology works
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: E-reply on Jul 14, 2009 at 02:32 PM
where is the chreapest to buy?

Check out our prices. Sent you pm.
Title: Re: Samsung Series 7 LED TV
Post by: DViant on Jul 17, 2009 at 06:29 PM
If you want to spare yourself any regrets for purchasing an overpriced LCD purely on aesthetics... :P :P :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHv-sonQu8I

http://www.avforums.com/reviews/Samsung-UE40B6000VW-LED-LCD-TV-Review.html

Edge LED technology is flawed with uniformity issues and auto dimming which cannot be defeated due to how the technology works
Thanks for the heads up. I would like to know if the flaw in the Series 6 LED HDTV also manifests in the Series 7 LED HDTV. It could be a flaw on the Series 6 and not the Series 7.

I did an audition between a 50-inch Kuro and a 46-inch Series 6 LED HDTV and on a Xbox 360 it just didn't look vibrant enough. Also how heavy are plasmas these days? I am concerned that my marble table will break from the weight.
Title: Re: Samsung LED models
Post by: DViant on Jul 17, 2009 at 07:20 PM
In a more optimistic news, HDGuru has christened the 8000 the best LCD out in the market...of course before the incoming release of Sony's 09 XBRs. :D

HDGuru (http://hdguru.com/samsung-un46b8000-240hz-lcd-led-tv-exclusive-first-review/429/)
Wish Samsung would bring em in. I'm about to commit already. ;)
Title: Re: Samsung Series 7 LED TV
Post by: DViant on Jul 17, 2009 at 07:36 PM
3,000,000:1 Contrast Ratio

Series 7 LED HDTV video review

http://g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/gadgetpr0n/67414/Samsung-LED-TV-Review.html


Conclusion
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/samsung-ue40b7020-ue40b7000-20090502147.htm

Pros

    * Accurate colour chromaticities and decoding
    * Capable of 0.01 cd/m2 blacks (though with auto-dimming; see Cons)
    * Impressive SD video processing
    * “Custom” [100Hz Motion Plus] setting allows for blur reduction independent from dejudder processing
    * Stunning super-slim styling
    * Extensive networking and media playback versatility (Internet@TV, Media Play, DLNA, etc.)
    * Consumes less power than LCD televisions of similar size

Cons

    * Auto-dimming/ black level fluctuation at low Average Picture Level (APL), unless [Game Mode] engaged and [Dynamic Contrast] set to “Off“
    * Mild clouding and backlight bleeding
    * Input lag may affect sensitive gamers


The Series 7 LED HDTV uses GPL/LGPL software

GPL software: Linux Kernel, Busybox, Binutils
LGPL software: Glibc, ffmpeg, smpeg, libgphoto, libusb, SDL

User Manual = http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/UM/200905/20090508194037421/BN68-02077A-00Eng-0311.pdf
Title: Re: Samsung Series 7 LED TV
Post by: E-reply on Jul 17, 2009 at 08:41 PM
3,000,000:1 Contrast Ratio

Series 7 LED HDTV video review

http://g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/gadgetpr0n/67414/Samsung-LED-TV-Review.html

You really have to see LED in actual demo. The product that reveals good specifics on paper may not look good in actual.

At our showroom, we have both plasma and LED on display side-by-side. With both TVs set at factory default, the plasma reveals richer in color. The too much brightness of LED somehow washes out color to become a bit light and pale.

Also, the LED presents movie to be like digital JPEG picture. It delivers the picture as if it was taken by a home-video camera. It loses the cinema quality movie.

Another issue that you have to consider is that of viewing angle. Like LCD, the sweet spot to watch the LED is at the center. Moving your viewing position to side will already wash out the picture color and contrast.

I invite you to come and audition both TVs. Hopefully, after comparing, you may choose the right Tv that pleases your eyes. Afterall, it's your eyes that should do the right judgment to whatever picture presented.  :D
Title: Samsung Series 9 LED HDTV
Post by: DViant on Jul 18, 2009 at 04:59 PM
Was it ever officially brought in by Samsung Philippines?
Title: Samsung LED Panels
Post by: jupacabra on Aug 30, 2009 at 10:11 AM
Anyone noticed yung price difference ng Samsung LED TV 40 inch. Series 6 vs. Series 7 kapag cash babayaran halos 1k lang ang difference sa SNS? Tama ba talaga na 1k lang ang difference ng series 6 na LED vs sa series 7?

kasi parang ang lapit, instead of settling with the Samsung series 6 40" LED TV, then just add 1k for the Samsung series 7 40" LED TV...

isn't that a typo or talagang ganun siya kalapit?  :o :o
Title: Re: Samsung LED Panels
Post by: E-reply on Aug 31, 2009 at 02:32 PM
Anyone noticed yung price difference ng Samsung LED TV 40 inch. Series 6 vs. Series 7 kapag cash babayaran halos 1k lang ang difference sa SNS? Tama ba talaga na 1k lang ang difference ng series 6 na LED vs sa series 7?

kasi parang ang lapit, instead of settling with the Samsung series 6 40" LED TV, then just add 1k for the Samsung series 7 40" LED TV...

isn't that a typo or talagang ganun siya kalapit?  :o :o

Please check for the new Samsung TV prices. There is a difference now in the prices of every TV.  :D
Title: Re: Samsung LED Panels
Post by: jupacabra on Aug 31, 2009 at 02:59 PM
Wow!!!!!! What a HUGE drop in prices for the samsung brands!!! woot!!!!
Title: Re: Samsung LED Panels
Post by: E-reply on Aug 31, 2009 at 03:48 PM
Wow!!!!!! What a HUGE drop in prices for the samsung brands!!! woot!!!!

That's right. Bili na.  :D
Title: Re: Samsung LED Panels
Post by: jupacabra on Aug 31, 2009 at 11:41 PM
pero teka bakit ganun iba yung na-PM mo sakin sir Vic compared dun sa pinost mo dito >> http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=100915.0 nung isang araw lang ang laki pa ng ibinaba ng prices nung sa sinend mo sakin... which is which? hehe...

tempted na tuloy ako bumili
Title: Samsung LED TV S6 & S7 walang Internet@TV!?
Post by: jupacabra on Sep 01, 2009 at 02:39 AM
totoo ba yun? ang alam ko meron, kasi nakalagay din sa site ng Samsung na meron, pero may nagsabi sa akin na yung Series 6 wala pero mga Series 7 meron na...

I know na yung phrase na sa "Series 6 wala sa series 7 meron Internet Connectivity" applies to the Samsung LCD but on LED wala daw maski Series 7? sa Series 8 pa lang daw magkakaroon??

is that true?? yung friend ko kasi bumili yung Series 7 na LCD kasi daw habol nya is the Internet@tv, LED series daw sana kaso wala daw ganun yung LED na internet@tv...

can anyone confirm this? Salmat!!
Title: Re: Samsung LED Panels
Post by: ayosbathere on Sep 02, 2009 at 09:59 AM
grabe binagsak ng Samsung LED prices

bakit kaya biglang bagsak.. halos same na sila ng price ng ibang Non-LED LCD TV.. sobrang bigla talaga ang pag bagsak ng price
Title: Re: Samsung LED Panels
Post by: Alfie on Sep 02, 2009 at 10:59 AM
The 55" LED was initially  quoted  at a 180K price (told me it was introductory) to me at the Samsung Showroom at Eastwood when I went there 3 or 4 months ago(they were still in their soft opening period) and I was surprised to learn that it jumped to >200K when I went to Greenbelt a month ago.

Anyway, I think that's the real suggested retail price of Samsung, however, they tried to sell it a a higher price, but maybe the sales were not that good, hence they reverted to their original price.

Well...good for us. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Samsung LED Panels
Post by: E-reply on Sep 02, 2009 at 03:37 PM
grabe binagsak ng Samsung LED prices

bakit kaya biglang bagsak.. halos same na sila ng price ng ibang Non-LED LCD TV.. sobrang bigla talaga ang pag bagsak ng price

Lahat naman, pati LCD, binabaan ng price. That's how Samsung dominate the market. First, they introduce variety series/models TVs. Then, they kill the market with the low prices.  ;)
Title: Re: Samsung LED Panels
Post by: jupacabra on Sep 02, 2009 at 09:39 PM
so, yung LED panels po ba sir eh may internet capability just like yung 46b750 na lcd? kasi sabi sakin wala daw, sa series 8 pa daw magkakaroon ng internet capability ang led. Pero if you would check naman sa site ng Samsung Philippines, meron naman sa series 7 ng LED pataas...

di ko alam tuloy kung alin ang tama... can anyone confirm this? Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Samsung LED Panels
Post by: stud on Sep 03, 2009 at 08:19 AM
I inquired about the samsung 55 inch led series 7 and it is priced at 180k if you are paying in cash. I think series 7 has internet capability. I just don't know the difference of series 7 and series 8. May series 9 na nga abroad eh.
Title: Re: Samsung LED Panels
Post by: Mouldingo on Sep 03, 2009 at 12:56 PM
 :D :D :D

Quote
Truth in advertising prevails in UK, Samsung to re-word 'LED TV' ads

(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1507/20090901samsungledtvad1.jpg) (http://img199.imageshack.us/i/20090901samsungledtvad1.jpg/)


Turns out it's not only us HD geeks that were irked by Samsung's ad-speak pitching LED-backlit LCDs as 'LED TVs' -- and in the UK, at least, there's been some corrective action. The Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) has found that the terminology doesn't comply with marketing regulations and is misleading because unless you've got a set like Jerry Jones', the display isn't made of LEDs. Spot on, ASA! To be sure, Sammy's new sets do have plenty of redeeming qualities, but whatever marketing genius came up with the 'LED TV' phrase is going to have to go back to the drawing board. Now, if only we could get some of this reasoning applied to US marketing and/or rein in wacky contrast ratio figures, we'd really be onto something.
Title: Re: Samsung LED-backlit LCD Panels
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