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Title: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Mouldingo on Aug 18, 2008 at 06:24 PM
Forget HD DVD: Toshiba focuses on plain old DVD   :P :P :P

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NEW YORK - After losing out in the battle to define the high-definition successor of the DVD, Toshiba Corp. has turned its attention to the next best thing: the DVD.
 
On Monday, the Japanese electronics company is releasing a new DVD player that it says does more than previous models to improve the look of DVDs on high-definition TVs.

The XD-E500 will sell for a suggested price of $149.99, twice as much as regular "upconverting" players, which also improve the look of a DVD, but it is less than half the price of a Blu-ray player.

The Blu-ray disc, championed by Sony Corp., early this year beat out Toshiba's HD DVD to become the dominant format for high-definition discs. Toshiba has stopped making HD DVD players.

In a demonstration to reporters last week, Toshiba played the same disc in an XDE player and a standard, $70 upscaling model on side-by-side LCD HDTVs. The new player produced a subtle but noticeable sharpening of the image.

Toshiba didn't demonstrate the XDE against a Blu-ray or HD DVD player, and Louis Masses, director of product planning for the audio and video group at Toshiba America Consumer Products, was careful to stress that it's not meant to compete with or replace Blu-ray.


"If you want Blu-ray, go get Blu-ray. This product is meant to improve playback of DVDs," Masses said.

Masses said the XDE technology, for eXtended Detail Enhancement, will be used in other players, and the brand will be promoted extensively in advertising, including on NBC's Olympics site.

Blu-ray players have six times the image detail of a DVD, and upscaling players, even those using XDE technology, can't overcome that. But they can sharpen edges to overcome the blurriness of a DVD when displayed on a large screen.

Three years after their launch, Blu-ray players are popular with home-theater aficionados but have not caught on in the mainstream, except through Sony's PlayStation 3 game console, which can play Blu-ray discs.

In emphasizing DVDs, Toshiba is playing up to a difficulty for Blu-ray marketers: Most U.S. consumers are happy with DVDs, according to a recent study by ABI Research, and don't believe Blu-ray provides as big of a quality jump as DVDs did over VHS tapes.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080818/ap_on_hi_te/tec_toshiba_dvd

Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: barrister on Aug 18, 2008 at 07:46 PM
Toshiba is looking very bad.

First, they announced SRT (Super Resolution Technology), a multiple-frame SR (Super-Resolution) technique that combines 9 frames to produce a 960p video.

It seems that Toshiba's SRT upscaling cannot be done in real time.  That's because SRT takes way too much processing to produce, something like 15 hours of processing per hour of DVD video (?), using a SpursEngine. 

Toshiba gave an SRT demo last June, with video upscaled beforehand (not real-time) using their Qosmio laptops with SpursEngine Quad Core HD Processors.  Unfortunately, it does not look like anybody was impressed:

http://techdigest.tv/2008/06/toshiba_controv.html

This time, they announced their new XDE technology.

Now, if SRT failed to impress, I wonder how XDE can do any better.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: techdude on Aug 18, 2008 at 11:13 PM
Oh well, at least it gives the Oppo some competition...
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Aug 19, 2008 at 07:00 AM
wow, cheaper than an oppo 980.  ;D

hmmm......
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: juanch on Aug 19, 2008 at 09:31 AM
If this performs just as well as the OPPO, then I might as well just get this instead  :)
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: fizo on Aug 19, 2008 at 10:18 AM
Can't wait for it to be available locally. :D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Aug 19, 2008 at 10:28 AM
here is the specs from toshiba usa site.  ;)

Video
Video Upconversion: 720p/1080i/1080p
XDE Upconversion Modes: Sharp, Color, Contrast
Playable Disc Types: DVD-Video/DVD-R/DVD-RW/CD/CD-R/CD-RW/CD-DA
HDMI™-CEC
ColorStream Pro® Progressive Scan Component Video Output
Digital Cinema Progressive (3:2 Pulldown)
Digital Picture Zoom
Fast Scan
Slow Motion
Multi-Camera Angle Select
Multi-Subtitle Select
JPEG Photo Viewer

Audio
Dolby® Digital and DTS® Compatible Output
WMA & MP3 Playback
3D Surround Sound

Convenience
Remote Control
Screen Saver
Tray Lock
HDMI™ LED Indicator (480p/720p/1080i/1080p/1080p-24 fps)
OSD Language: English/French/Spanish

Jackpacks
ColorStream Pro® Component Video Output
S-Video
RCA Video Outputs (1)
L-R Audio (1)
Coaxial Outputs (1)
HDMI™-CEC (1)

Weights and Dimensions
Weight: 3.5 lbs.
Dimensions: 16.93 x 1.97 x 7.80 (WxHxD)
Weight With Packaging: 5.5 lbs.
Dimensions With Packaging: 18.98 x 4.25 x 10.83 (WxHxD)

Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: blackie on Aug 19, 2008 at 11:21 AM
Anybody has one? Feedback please?  ::) ::) ::)

Thanks in adv ;Dance ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 19, 2008 at 11:58 AM
Anybody has one? Feedback please?  ::) ::) ::)

Thanks in adv ;Dance ;D
problem is availability  :(
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Aug 19, 2008 at 12:41 PM
Anybody has one? Feedback please?  ::) ::) ::)

Thanks in adv ;Dance ;D

it has just been launched stateside. don't have much news when this is going to be available in asia, only u.s. toshiba site carries it, singapore site does not have this product yet.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: barrister on Aug 19, 2008 at 12:45 PM
That's right. 

The XD-E500 was announced only a few days ago.  Units have not yet been shipped, but they are expected to be available in the U.S. this month. 

Sobrang bilis lang talaga dito sa pinoydvd ...  :D ;) 8)
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 19, 2008 at 12:56 PM
That's right. 

The XD-E500 was announced only a few days ago.  Units have not yet been shipped, but they are expected to be available in the U.S. this month. 

Sobrang bilis lang talaga dito sa pinoydvd ...  :D ;) 8)


because there are guys here like you and Mouldingo ..  ::)
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Moks007 on Aug 19, 2008 at 03:18 PM
wow, cheaper than an oppo 980.  ;D

hmmm......

I was gonna wait for this player dapat or their so called superupconvert ;D, However, last week ordered na the oppo 980 bec I grew impatient ;D..Itch just won't go away  ;D, na off timing tuloy ;D. If its way better than the 980 I will cry   :'(  hehe
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Aug 19, 2008 at 03:38 PM
I was gonna wait for this player dapat or their so called superupconvert ;D, However, last week ordered na the oppo 980 bec I grew impatient ;D..Itch just won't go away  ;D, na off timing tuloy ;D. If its way better than the 980 I will cry   :'(  hehe

oo nga sir raymond, i actually knew about this player from you. anyway, oppo is not a bad deal any way you look at it.  :)
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: reynold on Aug 19, 2008 at 03:55 PM
Based on the specs above...

What's the difference between ColorStream Pro® Component Video Output and the regular Component Video Output? Anyone? Thanks :)
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: dmaximus on Aug 19, 2008 at 04:05 PM
pag pwede region free ito pwede na to. swak sa budget ko. poormans oppo  ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Aug 19, 2008 at 04:11 PM
Based on the specs above...

What's the difference between ColorStream Pro® Component Video Output and the regular Component Video Output? Anyone? Thanks :)

as seen on their website.

"ColorStream Pro® Progressive Scan Component Video Outputs enhance color purity and image detail."
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: juanch on Aug 19, 2008 at 08:50 PM
I'll be keeping a very close eye on this one  ;)

I'll hold off buying an OPPO for now while I wait for reviews and user feedback on this new Tosh player  :D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Mouldingo on Aug 20, 2008 at 07:33 AM
Eyes-on Toshiba's new XD-E500 upconverting DVD player

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Yes, Toshiba seems resigned to some sort of HD disc-free existence, as it continues to mope about HD DVD's loss to Blu-ray and refrains from releasing a player for the once rival format, but let's set all aside for the moment. We got a look at Toshiba's new XD-E500 in action, and we must say: it does what it sets out to do. Most consumers will see a visible quality improvement when playing their DVDs, particularly in the realm of sharpness. Toshiba's new filters are "intelligent" enough to spice up the grass while leaving the sky and clouds free of noise, and while the contrast and color filters are less necessary, many consumers will enjoy their effect -- even if video purists would scoff at such alterations. As for usability, it couldn't really be much easier to flip on and off the three different enhancements, but there's also no customization of those modes to speak of. This $150 player isn't in any way Toshiba's Blu-ray killer, but thankfully the company actually seems to recognize that, and plans to market to Joe consumer who doesn't want to fork over the dough for a Blu-ray player or doesn't want to invest in a brand new video library, and won't be insulting videophiles' intelligence with claims to the contrary. If you're looking for something to magically make DVDs look like HD, this isn't it, but it bests Toshiba's best upconverter easily, and we'd venture to guess it's probably tops yours as well. All that said, Toshiba will have in store demos of the player at major retailers, and we'd highly recommend taking a gander for yourself before you take the plunge.

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/08/19/eyes-on-toshibas-new-xd-e500-upconverting-dvd-player/
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: dmaximus on Aug 20, 2008 at 10:57 AM
amazon is over pricing it at $180 >:(

http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-XD-E500-Upconverting-Extended-Detail/dp/B001D9IWIY/ref=sr_na_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1219200349&sr=1-1
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Aug 20, 2008 at 11:06 AM
amazon is over pricing it at $180 >:(

http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-XD-E500-Upconverting-Extended-Detail/dp/B001D9IWIY/ref=sr_na_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1219200349&sr=1-1

wala pang stocks siguro, hopefully it will come down to the right level.  ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: juanch on Aug 20, 2008 at 11:27 AM
^ so does this at least match the performance level of the Oppo or Tosh's own HD-XA2?
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: JT on Aug 20, 2008 at 11:29 AM
Mas ok pa cguro, if Toshiba launches upconverting DVD player with USB port and MKV playback capability.

They might be able to bounce back for their loss in HDDVD.




Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: barrister on Aug 20, 2008 at 11:34 AM
I'll be keeping a very close eye on this one  ;)

I'll hold off buying an OPPO for now while I wait for reviews and user feedback on this new Tosh player  :D

Waiting would be the best option.  And both players will surely be cheaper by the time you decide.

But my prediction is that the Oppo will still turn out to be better.

XDE technology seems to be adding filtering and edge enhancement.  Both techniques might look impressive at first glance, but closer inspection will reveal that they actually worsen the image.

CNET was not impressed:

Toshiba XD-E500
CNET editors' take
By: Matthew Moskovciak
Published on: 08/18/2008

http://reviews.cnet.com/video-players-and-recorders/toshiba-xd-e500/4505-6463_7-33224998.html?tag=prod.txt.1

What I can't figure out is how this player can output in 24p (24 frames per second), when SD DVD is already encoded in 30p for NTSC (60 frames interlaced) and 25p for PAL (50 frames interlaced).

Can it reverse the 3:2 pulldown on a commercial DVD, or does it only work on a 24p-encoded home movie from a DVD camcorder?
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: barrister on Aug 20, 2008 at 12:09 PM
I was gonna wait for this player dapat or their so called superupconvert...

Super upconvert was the Toshiba technology I was referring to on my Reply #1 above.  Toshiba calls it "SRT" (Super Resolution Technology), or sometimes "SUC" (Super Upconversion).

Malabo pa ang SRT/SUC.  Hindi pa kaya ng computer processing sa ngayon ang real time 9-frame tech.  Panis ang Quad-Core processor diyan ... sabi ng mga techies you need 150 cores to process SRT/SUC in real time! :o  Hindi pa kaya ng powers nila ilagay sa DVD player yon :-[.   

Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: dmaximus on Aug 20, 2008 at 02:14 PM
^ so does this at least match the performance level of the Oppo or Tosh's own HD-XA2?

i have a tosh-d3 and im not satisfied with it upconverting capabilities. mas ok yung dv600. IMHO
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Aug 20, 2008 at 11:34 PM
i have a tosh-d3 and im not satisfied with it upconverting capabilities. mas ok yung dv600. IMHO

the tosh-d3 is almost the same a the hd-a3 which is my player and yes you are right, dv 600 actually does better upscaling. but the x2 is the top of the line hddvd player of toshiba and uses a different chipset, seen this player in action during the upscaler shootout, came in second only to oppo 983, very good upscaler. so if this xde is capable of what the x2 can do, then its good to go.  ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 20, 2008 at 11:48 PM
the tosh-d3 is almost the same a the hd-a3 which is my player and yes you are right, dv 600 actually does better upscaling. but the x2 is the top of the line hddvd player of toshiba and uses a different chipset, seen this player in action during the upscaler shootout, came in second only to oppo 983, very good upscaler. so if this xde is capable of what the x2 can do, then its good to go.  ;D
pa-ot lang guys ha ..
i remembered during your upscaler shootout that the ps3 did good, ranked #3 ba?
anyway, i have an htpc around 15k worth, (without the branded psu) .. and it upscaled my dvd a bit better that ps3 ...
maybe we can include my htpc on your next shooutout  :) 
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Aug 20, 2008 at 11:57 PM
pa-ot lang guys ha ..
i remembered during your upscaler shootout that the ps3 did good, ranked #3 ba?
anyway, i have an htpc around 15k worth, (without the branded psu) .. and it upscaled my dvd a bit better that ps3 ...
maybe we can include my htpc on your next shooutout  :) 

hmmm... i think its 4th, the 980 was 3rd i think, will have to check the threads again to make sure. as for the htpc on a shootout, why not, problem is, i'm not the organizer of the last shootout, hamak lang na attendee. its sir mark's and sir paul's call, don't even know if there is going to be a 2nd one.  ;)
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 21, 2008 at 12:09 AM
hmmm... i think its 4th, the 980 was 3rd i think, will have to check the threads again to make sure. as for the htpc on a shootout, why not, problem is, i'm not the organizer of the last shootout, hamak lang na attendee. its sir mark's and sir paul's call, don't even know if there is going to be a 2nd one.  ;)
ill look for the thread and post it there .. im thinking kasi that this would benefit the already owners of htpcs .. or planning to setup an htpc .. malaki rin matititpid nila .. :)

*sorry sa hijack mga sir  :)
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Moks007 on Aug 21, 2008 at 09:35 AM
http://www.marketnews.ca/news_detail.asp?nid=3994

If this is true, man I want to hit myself in the head for buying the oppo 980 just a week ago.  ;D..Waiting for more reviews
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Aug 21, 2008 at 09:47 AM
http://www.marketnews.ca/news_detail.asp?nid=3994

If this is true, man I want to hit myself in the head for buying the oppo 980 just a week ago.  ;D..Waiting for more reviews

wow, the canadians really up the ante by setting the player up against bluray unlike in the american launch where there was no bluray comparison. looks like its a good player up to 42", which is the more or less the majority of lcd/plasma owners here in pdvd. hope it can be region unlocked easily.  ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 21, 2008 at 11:41 AM
wow, the canadians really up the ante by setting the player up against bluray unlike in the american launch where there was no bluray comparison. looks like its a good player up to 42", which is the more or less the majority of lcd/plasma owners here in pdvd. hope it can be region unlocked easily.  ;D
hehehe im just glad my htpc upscaled better than my ps3 .. kungdi .. gastos nanaman ito for me.. :)
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: barrister on Aug 21, 2008 at 01:52 PM
Now available on Amazon! ($179.99)

http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-XD-E500-Upconverting-Extended-Detail/dp/B001D9IWIY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1219297262&sr=1-1

We can expect user reviews soon.

Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Mouldingo on Aug 21, 2008 at 06:34 PM
Quote
From eight feet, the XDE picture looked sharper even than the Blu-ray version, though a discerning viewer could see that there was more real detail (as opposed to edge enhancement) on the Blu-ray Disc. From four feet, the additional resolution of the Blu-ray Disc was obvious; it just looked more realistic in every way. While not many viewers will sit this close, the difference between XDE and Blu-ray (in favour of Blu-ray) would be pretty plain on a 55- or 60-inch display at normal viewing distances.

^+1

Luma na yung argument that Full HD is best enjoyed on a screen 50" and above. Smaller screen are compressed enough that its harder to tell the difference between upconverted SD and HD. Kaya mga 1080P screens that are smaller than 50" have little advantage over 720P screens. Unless you do sit closer than 5 feet from the screen :P :P :P
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: jojitv on Aug 22, 2008 at 04:13 AM
It's now priced at $149.99. :)
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 22, 2008 at 05:19 AM
It's now priced at $149.99. :)
what store bro?
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Mouldingo on Aug 22, 2008 at 07:34 AM
It's now priced at $149.99. :)

Bilis magbaba ng Amazon...Free Shipping pa! Currently #2 sa sales in Amazon, # 3 ung Oppo DV-981. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Aug 22, 2008 at 09:59 AM
Bilis magbaba ng Amazon...Free Shipping pa! Currently #2 sa sales in Amazon, # 3 ung Oppo DV-981. ;D ;D ;D


ayos ito, reviews nalang para confirm kung pwedeng alternative sa oppo.  ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Moks007 on Aug 22, 2008 at 11:41 AM
ayos ito, reviews nalang para confirm kung pwedeng alternative sa oppo.  ;D

Ya the only thing is maybe its not region free, hopefully there is a hack ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: juanch on Aug 22, 2008 at 01:23 PM
Possible alternative to OPPO?

Yes, please  :D
sana region free nga
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 22, 2008 at 01:25 PM
hmm .. maybe we can contact toshiba regarding this product!  ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: dmaximus on Aug 22, 2008 at 01:30 PM
tagal ng mga reviews! sana region free!  ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: juanch on Aug 26, 2008 at 08:56 AM
Now available on Amazon! ($179.99)

http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-XD-E500-Upconverting-Extended-Detail/dp/B001D9IWIY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1219297262&sr=1-1

We can expect user reviews soon.



5 Customers Reviews so far. all positive  :)

REGION FREE according to the 3rd reviewer  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: whiteb16a on Aug 26, 2008 at 12:04 PM
wow, this player looks promising...it even outscored the Oppo 981HD in one of the customer reviews ;D

RESULTS:
Oppo DV-981HD UpConverting DVD to 1080P = 5
Toshiba HD-A30 UpConvert DVD to 1080P = 5
Onkyo DV-HD805 UpConvert DVD to 1080P [Reon Edge OFF] = 5.5
Onkyo DV-HD805 UpConvert DVD to 1080P [Reon Edge ON] = 6
Toshiba HD-E500 UpConvert DVD to 1080P = 8 [XDE ON]
Toshiba HD-E500 UpConvert DVD to 1080P = 7.8 [XDE + CONTRAST ON]
Toshiba HD-E500 UpConvert DVD to 1080P = 8.2 [XDE + COLOR MAPPING ON]
Onkyo DV-HD805 HD DVD at 1080P = 9.7 [Reon Edge OFF]
Onkyo DV-HD805 HD DVD at 1080P = 10 [Reon Edge ON]
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Aug 26, 2008 at 12:20 PM
wow, this player looks promising...it even outscored the Oppo 981HD in one of the customer reviews ;D

RESULTS:
Oppo DV-981HD UpConverting DVD to 1080P = 5
Toshiba HD-A30 UpConvert DVD to 1080P = 5
Onkyo DV-HD805 UpConvert DVD to 1080P [Reon Edge OFF] = 5.5
Onkyo DV-HD805 UpConvert DVD to 1080P [Reon Edge ON] = 6
Toshiba HD-E500 UpConvert DVD to 1080P = 8 [XDE ON]
Toshiba HD-E500 UpConvert DVD to 1080P = 7.8 [XDE + CONTRAST ON]
Toshiba HD-E500 UpConvert DVD to 1080P = 8.2 [XDE + COLOR MAPPING ON]
Onkyo DV-HD805 HD DVD at 1080P = 9.7 [Reon Edge OFF]
Onkyo DV-HD805 HD DVD at 1080P = 10 [Reon Edge ON]


wow, layo oppo ah.  :o
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: barrister on Aug 26, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Screenshots:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1058997

I like the contrast mode.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Aug 26, 2008 at 01:32 PM
Screenshots:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1058997

I like the contrast mode.

nice thread, mix reaction from the people. but the player is looking to be a hot item for ht enthusiasts.  ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Moks007 on Aug 26, 2008 at 01:52 PM
Ya it can be made region free daw (they have a procedure in avs forum)..The more and more Im regretting I bought my oppo 980 just 1 WEEK APART from this players release!!! Bad trip man hehe..But I love my oppo naman ;D..Christmas purchase nalang maybe? ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Aug 26, 2008 at 02:03 PM
Ya it can be made region free daw (they have a procedure in avs forum)..The more and more Im regretting I bought my oppo 980 just 1 WEEK APART from this players release!!! Bad trip man hehe..But I love my oppo naman ;D..Christmas purchase nalang maybe? ;D

if ever sir raymond, ako nalang bili ng 980 mo by that time.  ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: reynold on Aug 26, 2008 at 02:44 PM
Wow, tempting. Panregalo sa sarili sa pasko ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: reynold on Aug 26, 2008 at 03:09 PM
According to the 3rd reviewer, you can unlock its region via remote control, nice ;)

Heres how...

Region free via remote control:

- open the tray
- type 2403960
- press 9
- close the tray
- turn the player off and back on again




Source:
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-XD-E500-Upconverting-Extended-Detail/dp/B001D9IWIY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1219297262&sr=1-1
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: dmaximus on Aug 26, 2008 at 04:48 PM
sweeeet!  im soo excited!  :o ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Moks007 on Aug 26, 2008 at 06:39 PM
if ever sir raymond, ako nalang bili ng 980 mo by that time.  ;D

hehehe   ;)
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: juanch on Aug 26, 2008 at 07:51 PM
Seems like a lot of prospective Oppo buyers are planning to buy this instead.  :)
including me
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Aug 27, 2008 at 10:17 AM
Seems like a lot of prospective Oppo buyers are planning to buy this instead.  :)
including me

oo nga bro juancho, if its as good as oppo 980, i'd go with this one, cheaper by 20$, pang dagdag sa shipping na rin.  ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Moks007 on Aug 28, 2008 at 03:51 PM
Ok I wonder who will be the first to own this player ;D ;D..para we can do another shootout haha  :D :D..Calling on Mr. streetsmart and Mr. pchin hehe..My target MAY be December pa if it will be approved hehe.. :D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Moks007 on Aug 29, 2008 at 11:03 AM
More reviews   ;)..I think Im really about to click "add to my cart in amazon" ;D

http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/reviews/review.phtml/3411/4435/Toshiba-xd-e500-dvd-player.phtml

http://news.digitaltrends.com/talk-back/259/toshiba-xde-dvd-player-better-than-blu-ray
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: barrister on Aug 29, 2008 at 11:58 AM
Wow, finally, professional reviews! 

Thanks for the links!
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Aug 29, 2008 at 12:40 PM
the plot thickens....  ;D

nice review links sir raymond.                 
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: dmaximus on Aug 29, 2008 at 02:34 PM
helpful links sir. thank you. now im decided. can't wait for Christmas.  ::)
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Moks007 on Aug 29, 2008 at 04:24 PM
Sure guys, I think there will be more and more reviews that will be coming out in the months ahead. If the majority of the reviews will be great, I think more and more will want this player by Christmas ;D ;D..Me included ;D There are some in avs saying its as good as the xa2 or even better. Stay tuned ;D ;D

I'm already sold at the review that says its better than the ps3 bec lately lang I really see how good  the ps3 is on dvds.

My order of best players pq wise, from what I own, IMO
1. ps3 - I find it really sharp, parang nga HD on some scenes hehe ;D  especially on closeup faces (I sit around 8 to 10 ft away)
2. oppo 980 - I think it can be tied with ps3. Watching Grease on this player was Wow. Thats a nice copy of Grease I have to say, and combined with this player "truly awesome" ;D
3. Toshiba a35/a30 - very close din to 2nd or first. My wife usually mistake the dvd playing in this player as "high definition ba yan?" No joke, pero she is no videophile ;D..She can't really tell hidef from dvd, no joke  :D
4. Pioneer 600 - returned to my parents na ;D, pero excellent performer din
5. Sony ns75 - was the best player I had couple years back until these new players that I eventually owned.

I just want the "best of the best" for my dvds especially for the sharpness of the picture..Hidef is no challenge or excitement  ;D( for me lang recently) bec one knows it is already sharp diba? hehe, Ive gotten more selective on these  hidef movies bec of this reason (of course still want them but at better prices or just getting my favorites like the bond series in blu :D)...I wanna see You've got mail, Two weeks notice, Star Wars, Raiders, Grease, Ferris bueller's day off in "TRUE DVD GLORY"  ;D. I get excited as the picture gets sharper and sharper using diff players. Call me crazy or weird I guess..You guys may say small diff na lang among these players but sometimes us dvd/home theater addicts want more and more, especially for the picture..Diba? ;D.. Parang gatorade, Quenching for thirst :D, of course at a good price value/budget
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: newbie pa rin on Aug 29, 2008 at 05:31 PM
Hmmm, did I made a mistake in ordering an OPPO 980 ?

Audio is subjective but PQ, another hmmm.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: juanch on Aug 29, 2008 at 05:43 PM
@Moks007

bro, you're not alone.
Just little improvements in PQ makes me go carzy.

And my non-videophile friends & cousins just look at me with a "What's up with him?" look.  :D

---------------------

One thing that is not clear though is how does the XDE stack up against the Oppo 983 or Tosh X-a2.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Aug 29, 2008 at 07:15 PM
@Moks007

bro, you're not alone.
Just little improvements in PQ makes me go carzy.

And my non-videophile friends & cousins just look at me with a "What's up with him?" look.  :D

---------------------

One thing that is not clear though is how does the XDE stack up against the Oppo 983 or Tosh X-a2.

actually sa avs forum, brader jauncho, some owners of the x-a2 are saying its at par or even better than the x-a2, but no comparison yet with 983. for me, if it trumps the 980 and 981, solve na ako. i think it will be hard for the xde to one up the 983. but for its price, oks lang na mas maganda ang 983.

some are even saying come christmas it might go down to 120$ level, yahoo for us.  ;D ;D ;D

btw, some are also saying the region free hack through the remote seems to be not working for everyone.  ??? ???
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Moks007 on Aug 29, 2008 at 07:22 PM
Hmmm, did I made a mistake in ordering an OPPO 980 ?

Audio is subjective but PQ, another hmmm.

No you did not..The 980 is an excellent player in my opinion.. Its just this toshiba player is 20 dollars cheaper and MAY be much better than 980, 981, ps3 etc. Lets wait for more reviewers ;)

Off topic ;D..By the way I might have to redo the order of the best players in my opinion above. I retested the 980 and ps3 just now using Eraser with Arnold. This dvd is not that great in terms of pq imo, thats why I used it for comparison. Im using warner region 3, bought here. The pq of this movie on the 980 looks way better than the ps3. I don't know if its bec my ps3 is not calibrated, firmware or adjusted to better settings for dvd but the 980 is sharper and has definitely less noise. So just based on this its
1. 980
2. ps3 with tosh a35/a30 just a hair behind or same lang with ps3
3. pioneer 600
4. Sony ns75

this is just my eyes and my opinion, others may rank these differently. Equipments, calibration, room conditions etc will have diff results. This is just my humble ranking ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Moks007 on Aug 29, 2008 at 07:44 PM
@Moks007

bro, you're not alone.
Just little improvements in PQ makes me go carzy.

And my non-videophile friends & cousins just look at me with a "What's up with him?" look.  :D

---------------------

One thing that is not clear though is how does the XDE stack up against the Oppo 983 or Tosh X-a2.
;D ;D ;D..This I wanna see also



btw, some are also saying the region free hack through the remote seems to be not working for everyone.  ??? ???

hmmm..thats not good, lets wait for more confirmation before we buy this Christmas? hehe
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: juanch on Aug 29, 2008 at 10:20 PM
The 3 picture modes namely Sharp, Color & Contrast bothers me.  ???

Each movie will have it's own ideal mode, does this mean I'll have to choose at the start of each movie which mode I want?

I want an upconverting player that's simply insert disc & enjoy.
I don't want to find the ideal picture mode for each movie  ???

Maybe if I buy the XDE, I will just leave it in sharp mode.  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: juanch on Aug 29, 2008 at 10:21 PM
btw, some are also saying the region free hack through the remote seems to be not working for everyone.  ??? ???

This one bothers me as well  ???
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Aug 30, 2008 at 05:57 AM
The 3 picture modes namely Sharp, Color & Contrast bothers me.  ???

Each movie will have it's own ideal mode, does this mean I'll have to choose at the start of each movie which mode I want?

I want an upconverting player that's simply insert disc & enjoy.
I don't want to find the ideal picture mode for each movie  ???

Maybe if I buy the XDE, I will just leave it in sharp mode.  ??? ??? ???

sharp mode is always on, its between contrast or color that you have to choose, but based on reviews, professional or otherwise, i think a lot like the contrast mode, brings out deeper blacks. and i think toggling between modes is easily done through the remote. but i see what you mean, its always better if we could just set it once (like calibration) and just enjoy watching.  :D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Moks007 on Aug 30, 2008 at 02:21 PM
A more in-depth review. Buy na?  ;)
http://reviews.digitaltrends.com/review/5531/toshiba-xd-e500-review
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Aug 30, 2008 at 03:29 PM
A more in-depth review. Buy na?  ;)
http://reviews.digitaltrends.com/review/5531/toshiba-xd-e500-review

thanks sir raymond. and for the reviewer to predict that the price will go down to $99 by x'mas......  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: whiteb16a on Aug 30, 2008 at 06:06 PM
Can't wait for this player to hit our shores. I just hope it'll be here before X'mas...really want to upgrade my old DV-300 na for Tosh XDE "Patience is virtue" ;D ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: tambutsoo on Aug 30, 2008 at 10:41 PM
available na ba ito ?
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Aug 30, 2008 at 11:00 PM
available na ba ito ?

sa u.s. palang. you can get it through amazon. $149
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: blued888 on Sep 07, 2008 at 03:58 AM
Some OPPO DV-980H vs. Toshiba XD-E500 image comparisons.

Link (http://www.gfsma.com/xdetest/test.html)
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 07, 2008 at 07:39 AM
Some OPPO DV-980H vs. Toshiba XD-E500 image comparisons.

Link (http://www.gfsma.com/xdetest/test.html)

thanks sa link bro
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Sep 07, 2008 at 07:47 AM
Some OPPO DV-980H vs. Toshiba XD-E500 image comparisons.

Link (http://www.gfsma.com/xdetest/test.html)

the toshiba exhibited a warmer skin tone, although the sharpening effect was done in a good way. seen the links before, but you can better judge it now because of the mouse over thing.

thanks for the links sir blued888
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: blued888 on Sep 07, 2008 at 03:30 PM
Does the Toshiba by default, boost saturation/colors? The Toshiba's images look so much warmer than that of the OPPO and I think it might be overdone during certain scenes and movies.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Sep 07, 2008 at 07:59 PM
Does the Toshiba by default, boost saturation/colors? The Toshiba's images look so much warmer than that of the OPPO and I think it might be overdone during certain scenes and movies.

four settings:

off                      - standard upscaling 
sharp alone          - edge enhancement
sharp + color        - edge enhancement + boost in green and blues
sharp + contrast   - edge enhancement + better blacks
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: blued888 on Sep 07, 2008 at 08:32 PM
four settings:

off                      - standard upscaling 
sharp alone          - edge enhancement
sharp + color        - edge enhancement + boost in green and blues
sharp + contrast   - edge enhancement + better blacks

Ok, yung sa image comparison kasi, kahit XDE sharpness lang nakasulat... May color boosting ginagawa eh.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Sep 20, 2008 at 08:00 AM
$137 nalang sa amazon. hopefully mga $110 nalang by x'mas.  ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Moks007 on Sep 20, 2008 at 08:20 AM
$137 nalang sa amazon. hopefully mga $110 nalang by x'mas.  ;D

hehe sana 99 dollars, my target din maybe this Christmas  ;D..However, Im thinking if I should get this or just the pch hehe..Im really craving for this toshiba tho   8)..the screenshots in avs look really nice
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Sep 20, 2008 at 08:46 AM
hehe sana 99 dollars, my target din maybe this Christmas  ;D..However, Im thinking if I should get this or just the pch hehe..Im really craving for this toshiba tho   8)..the screenshots in avs look really nice

naku sir raymond, since may oppo ka na, prioritize pch nalang, i don't think this toshiba will trump the oopo, its at par lang with the oppo at best. besides the region free thing is still hanging.  ???
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Moks007 on Sep 20, 2008 at 09:30 AM
naku sir raymond, since may oppo ka na, prioritize pch nalang, i don't think this toshiba will trump the oopo, its at par lang with the oppo at best. besides the region free thing is still hanging.  ???

hehe ya addict kasi ako sa dvd hehe..Ya I think the pch is the way to go. I might go now to ehome in annapolis and check it out again and inquire more haha..By the way do you download your own movies or just give it to someone to download for you for a fee? Bagal kasi net ko (I think its worth it if your internet is the 2mb speed or higher) and hassle I might just let the salespeople here download for me for a fee. hehe..

out of topic..How many movies ba 1 terabyte ba yan..hehe dont know the spelling..I like to collect movies and nakakahinayang to delete it and change to other movies haha..Sometimes kasi I like to go back and watch a certain movie out of the blue haha..
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Sep 20, 2008 at 10:35 AM
hehe ya addict kasi ako sa dvd hehe..Ya I think the pch is the way to go. I might go now to ehome in annapolis and check it out again and inquire more haha..By the way do you download your own movies or just give it to someone to download for you for a fee? Bagal kasi net ko (I think its worth it if your internet is the 2mb speed or higher) and hassle I might just let the salespeople here download for me for a fee. hehe..

out of topic..How many movies ba 1 terabyte ba yan..hehe dont know the spelling..I like to collect movies and nakakahinayang to delete it and change to other movies haha..Sometimes kasi I like to go back and watch a certain movie out of the blue haha..

pag 720p file kasi mga 4-5gb so a terabyte of space is roughly 200 movies. pag 1080 p ka naman mga 8-10gb per movie kaya mga roughly mga 100 movies yan, but real world situation you will have both type of files kaya lagay mo sya at 6.5 gb per movie average, so 1 tb is mga 150 movies.

and i do both, download and let someone do it for me for a fee.  ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: [joms] on Sep 22, 2008 at 11:39 AM
a) magkakaron na kaya eto sa market by the end of october? what do you guys think?
b) do you think this will play p*rated DVDs as good as the pioneer dv400/600 and philips 5986?
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Sep 23, 2008 at 10:42 AM
a) magkakaron na kaya eto sa market by the end of october? what do you guys think?
b) do you think this will play p*rated DVDs as good as the pioneer dv400/600 and philips 5986?

sa asia, parang wala pang pending release, now, buying the u.s. model naman, yan nga ang risk, kasi there is no definite answer to the region freeing of this unit. there was a guy who posted at the avs forum that a code works in region freeing the unit which was good news but after a few post someone said the code he posted does not work and nobody has revalidated the code yet, kaya sketchy pa siya at best. but if it reach $100 by xmas, then sure ball na yung region freeing code, i think this will be a popular player even here in the philippines. bili nalang via amazon.  ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: [joms] on Sep 23, 2008 at 02:50 PM
normally ba, if it is released sa US, how many weeks/months before it gets released sa philippines?
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Sep 23, 2008 at 05:42 PM
normally ba, if it is released sa US, how many weeks/months before it gets released sa philippines?

Tough question, iba iba, smetimes simultaneous, smetimes mnths apart, smetimes the model does not see the light of day in the philippines. Look at oppo, not even a distributor to represent them, hopefully since there is toshiba here, bka magkaroon, but look at the ps3, may sony phils, naman, pero they dont sell it officially here.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: [joms] on Sep 23, 2008 at 10:30 PM
hmmm i guess you're right. Wala bang may kilala dito ng tiga Toshiba? baka may inside info sya kung lalabas nila yung XD-E500 dito .......
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Sep 24, 2008 at 05:19 PM
hmmm i guess you're right. Wala bang may kilala dito ng tiga Toshiba? baka may inside info sya kung lalabas nila yung XD-E500 dito .......

i think the distributors of toshiba products like sir e-reply can help us get info.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: firewired on Oct 07, 2008 at 09:19 PM
Any info if this is now available locally? It's down to US$127 in the Amazon Marketplace but sadly, without free shipping.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Oct 07, 2008 at 09:27 PM
Any info if this is now available locally? It's down to US$127 in the Amazon Marketplace but sadly, without free shipping.

kapitan, no news yet whether it will be available in the philippines by x'mas time. hopefully its $99 by x'mas.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: barrister on Oct 08, 2008 at 09:37 AM
Malabo yata iyan.  Parang bale wala yata sa Toshiba ang mga Pilipino.

In 1998, sabi sa internet, maganda raw ang Toshiba CRT 29", but I could not find any Toshiba CRT in our appliance stores.  I ended up with a 29" Sharp CRT, a cheap but very good set.  Buti na lang.

When I was looking for an HD DVD player last year, I could not find one in our appliance stores, despite the fact that it was widely available abroad.  BUTI NA LANG!   :D     
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: R1DVD on Oct 14, 2008 at 08:23 PM
If anyone is interested to get the XDE, a fellow pdvd member (TOYO1) is willing to source this unit from the US. 
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=83130.msg887590#msg887590
Already got a price quote (just PM him because I don't know if I'm at liberty to announce the price quote), but I'm still researching if this unit is autovolt and if it can really be region-unlocked. Medyo conflicting kasi ang reports about region-unlocking
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: TOY 01 on Oct 16, 2008 at 08:09 PM
If anyone is interested to get the XDE, a fellow pdvd member (TOYO1) is willing to source this unit from the US. 
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=83130.msg887590#msg887590
Already got a price quote (just PM him because I don't know if I'm at liberty to announce the price quote), but I'm still researching if this unit is autovolt and if it can really be region-unlocked. Medyo conflicting kasi ang reports about region-unlocking
Ok lang sir no problem. Sabihan niyo lang ako kung interested kayo.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Oct 19, 2008 at 10:04 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-XD-E500-Upconverting-Extended-Detail/dp/B001D9IWIY/ref=pd_bbs_9?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1224381167&sr=8-9 (http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-XD-E500-Upconverting-Extended-Detail/dp/B001D9IWIY/ref=pd_bbs_9?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1224381167&sr=8-9)

grabe! 85$ nalang, wala pang black friday. with the u.s. economy almost in recession, mukhang nag babaan na mga gears. this is now officially less than 5k pesos with shipping baka mga 9k nalang ito. if not for region locking, best buy ito ngayon sa mga upscalers.  ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: juanch on Oct 19, 2008 at 02:32 PM
^ Wowee! very tempting na talaga  :P
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Moks007 on Oct 19, 2008 at 02:39 PM
Wow indeed so tempting..ok na ok ang price :)
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: firewired on Oct 22, 2008 at 05:58 AM
Currently $97.70 direct from Amazon (higher than iiinas link above to 6th Avenue) but comes with free shipping!
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Alfie on Oct 22, 2008 at 10:06 AM
It's best to wait for Toshiba Philippines to market the XD-E500 here.

Estimating from their previous models,It'll probably be region free. ;)
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: cHess on Oct 22, 2008 at 04:55 PM
Any ideas when will come out in the Philippines? Nice!
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: stickfighter on Oct 22, 2008 at 10:16 PM
We should watch out for this player....looks promising! ::)
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: [joms] on Oct 23, 2008 at 03:49 PM
wala bang tiga Toshiba dito that can answer if lalabas eto sa pinas? and if so... when?  ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: dmaximus on Nov 05, 2008 at 02:48 PM
might be able to grab one next week. fingers crossed  :-X
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Nov 05, 2008 at 02:50 PM
might be able to grab one next week. fingers crossed  :-X

goodluck sir, para meron ng first hand info from a pdvd member!  ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Moks007 on Nov 05, 2008 at 03:28 PM
goodluck sir, para meron ng first hand info from a pdvd member!  ;D

Ya wanna get some local reviews. I wanna know if its worth buying for I already have the oppo 980.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Nov 05, 2008 at 03:38 PM
Ya wanna get some local reviews. I wanna know if its worth buying for I already have the oppo 980.

less than 100$ nalang sir raymond!  ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Moks007 on Nov 05, 2008 at 05:28 PM
less than 100$ nalang sir raymond!  ;D

hehe ya so tempting na. I'm thinking of an excuse to give my wife for this player hehe..I think I used na the excuse of Self Christmas gift on the Sony s350, so can't use that excuse na hehe..
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: dmaximus on Nov 08, 2008 at 11:31 PM
mukang i have to wait pa til dec mga kapatid. sarado na yun balikbayan box when i asked my sis to get me one. hahabol nalng. kakabitin. :-\
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Moks007 on Nov 11, 2008 at 10:14 AM
I was looking all over metro manila for Home Cinema Choice magazine with the xd-e500 review, couple months ago pa >:(. I was so disappointed that I can't find any.  :(..I love Home Cinema Choice ;D..Magazine is great for me. Hey guys look what I found ;D.. I'm sold on this player na. ;) I will buy one maybe the first quarter of next year. Sure na haha ;D..Kahit maybe small na the difference to other players (like my 980), Im up for the extra detail haha.. :o
Link
http://www.homecinemachoice.com/files/hcc_content/software/XDEtoshiba.pdf
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: SirLaw11 on Nov 19, 2008 at 02:17 PM
I have this piece in my store since sept of this year, didnt pay much attention to this since it is still regular dvd. What do you want to know about this piece? Just ask me some questions and i will try to answer to the best of my ability. Pictures will be included.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: reynold on Nov 19, 2008 at 03:45 PM
I have this piece in my store since sept of this year, didnt pay much attention to this since it is still regular dvd. What do you want to know about this piece? Just ask me some questions and i will try to answer to the best of my ability. Pictures will be included.

Hi, we are hoping that you can give us your review on this player as well as the region locking issue, region free na ba yung unit sa store mo?

btw, where's your store and how much 'to sa'yo?


thanks,
reynold
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: TOY 01 on Nov 19, 2008 at 04:33 PM
Hi, we are hoping that you can give us your review on this player as well as the region locking issue, region free na ba yung unit sa store mo?

btw, where's your store and how much 'to sa'yo?


thanks,
reynold
Bro sa u.s yun store ni SirLaw11...
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: dmaximus on Nov 19, 2008 at 05:27 PM
Bro sa u.s yun store ni SirLaw11...

sir TOY01 is offering it. sana may makabili na from pdvd.  :) boss SirLaw11 were hoping you can give us a review and comparison from the oppo players. TIA  :)
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Nov 19, 2008 at 06:52 PM
sir TOY01 is offering it. sana may makabili na from pdvd.  :) boss SirLaw11 were hoping you can give us a review and comparison from the oppo players. TIA  :)

pag may definite hack code lang to region free this player. sulit na sa presyo ni sir toy01 at 7.5k. lots of review that this performs at par or even better thanthe 980, but cheaper.  ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: reynold on Nov 19, 2008 at 07:41 PM
Bro sa u.s yun store ni SirLaw11...


Nyek, ganun ba? Anyway, i hope he can give us some review about this player :)


pag may definite hack code lang to region free this player. sulit na sa presyo ni sir toy01 at 7.5k. lots of review that this performs at par or even better thanthe 980, but cheaper.  ;D

Yup, you're right bro, sulit na sulit na talaga, but the one thing that worries me about this player is the region locking, sana pwede na i-region-free :)
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: SirLaw11 on Nov 20, 2008 at 08:39 AM
This player has 3 mode for picture quality, they are SHARP, ORIGINAL, CONTRAST and OFF. For the Audio it has Bitstream and PCM mode.

Ive played them thru series of tv including the Elite 111FD and 101FD. They all look fantastic. I also included the Toshiba 52RV530 and Mitsubishi LT52149 for the testing. With the mitsubishi having the 120hz on the introduction has a lot of combing effect. But once the movie starts, that fade away. The combing effect wasnt apparent in the 2 elite that i use. Picture was crystal clear using the gladiator movie. Once i put an animation everyone thought that it was HD. The picture quality was very good considering it is just an upconverted movie. The only gripe that i can say is that it is not as vibrant and colorful as HD. But that is to be expected. With the proper tweaking and calibrating this machine is a force to recon with. This is a very good machine and the price is decent.

Lastly it does play boot leg and this is not region free. It is lock here in the US. I will include the picture setup later. I am still too busy with setting up my store for the early black friday sale. =)
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: SirLaw11 on Nov 20, 2008 at 11:21 AM
Here are the pictures for this player:

(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q231/clarck976/DSC00242.jpg)

(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q231/clarck976/DSC00244.jpg)

(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q231/clarck976/DSC00245.jpg)

(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q231/clarck976/DSC00246.jpg)

(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q231/clarck976/DSC00241.jpg)

Lastly as far as resolution is concern there are 6 settings from this player. They are Auto, 480P, 720P, 1080I, 1080P and 1080/24
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Moks007 on Nov 20, 2008 at 01:14 PM
This player has 3 mode for picture quality, they are SHARP, ORIGINAL, CONTRAST and OFF. For the Audio it has Bitstream and PCM mode.

Ive played them thru series of tv including the Elite 111FD and 101FD. They all look fantastic. I also included the Toshiba 52RV530 and Mitsubishi LT52149 for the testing. With the mitsubishi having the 120hz on the introduction has a lot of combing effect. But once the movie starts, that fade away. The combing effect wasnt apparent in the 2 elite that i use. Picture was crystal clear using the gladiator movie. Once i put an animation everyone thought that it was HD. The picture quality was very good considering it is just an upconverted movie. The only gripe that i can say is that it is not as vibrant and colorful as HD. But that is to be expected. With the proper tweaking and calibrating this machine is a force to recon with. This is a very good machine and the price is decent.

Lastly it does play boot leg and this is not region free. It is lock here in the US. I will include the picture setup later. I am still too busy with setting up my store for the early black friday sale. =)








Sir, have you compared it to an oppo 980. The reason is I already have an oppo 980 and I'm thinking of getting this player. I wanna make sure if its worth the purchase.  If its slightly better than the 980 I wanna get this toshiba  ;D bec of its price, if same or worse I will pass. I really want the best for my dvds, even if it means seeing an extra pimple in a dudes face  ;D, better colors etc., etc.

For those questioning the region hack. I posted a link on a review on home cinema choice above, you can see on the right side on the summary ata they have instructions on how to do the region hack. Whether this is confirmed I don't know na but there are a lot saying it works. I don't think they will post it in a magazine if it doesn't work. I will take my chances ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: SirLaw11 on Nov 20, 2008 at 01:48 PM

Sir, have you compared it to an oppo 980. The reason is I already have an oppo 980 and I'm thinking of getting this player. I wanna make sure if its worth the purchase.  If its slightly better than the 980 I wanna get this toshiba  ;D bec of its price, if same or worse I will pass. I really want the best for my dvds, even if it means seeing an extra pimple in a dudes face  ;D, better colors etc., etc.

For those questioning the region hack. I posted a link on a review on home cinema choice above, you can see on the right side on the summary ata they have instructions on how to do the region hack. Whether this is confirmed I don't know na but there are a lot saying it works. I don't think they will post it in a magazine if it doesn't work. I will take my chances ;D

I can't comment on the oppo because we dont sell there product. But base on what i read online from various forums, i would say the XDE-500 has better picture quality than the 980.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Moks007 on Nov 20, 2008 at 02:05 PM
I can't comment on the oppo because we dont sell there product. But base on what i read online from various forums, i would say the XDE-500 has better picture quality than the 980.

Ok thanks sir, Im so hot with this player, Im like a "dog in heat". It's good its now below the 100 dollar range ;D..Easier for wifes approval ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: juanch on Nov 20, 2008 at 03:22 PM
@SirLaw11

I read somewhere that the XDE-500 stretches a 4:3 image to make it fit wide screens.
And there is no way to make the picture square.

Can you confirm this?

TIA  ;)
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: dmaximus on Nov 20, 2008 at 04:56 PM
sorry OT. SirLaw11, was wondering where is your shop? will you include the XD-E500 on sale? ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: SirLaw11 on Nov 22, 2008 at 07:12 AM
@SirLaw11

I read somewhere that the XDE-500 stretches a 4:3 image to make it fit wide screens.
And there is no way to make the picture square.

Can you confirm this?

TIA  ;)

I will try to get a hold of 4:3 dvd first. Then i will let you know the outcome.


sorry OT. SirLaw11, was wondering where is your shop? will you include the XD-E500 on sale? ;D

Unfortunately not =(
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: jchilado on Nov 22, 2008 at 02:24 PM
Another good review for the XD-E500. 
http://whathifi.com/Review/Toshiba-XD-E500/

Got mine for $100 Canadian in Best Buy.  Asked my brother to bring it when he comes home next month.
$100 X 39 = Php3,900!!!  Cheaper than Philips or Pioneer. ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: ronjet on Nov 22, 2008 at 03:13 PM
sir jchilada, baka pwede magpasabay dyan? hehe
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: jchilado on Nov 23, 2008 at 08:38 AM
@ronjet

Isa lang kayang dalhin sir.  50 lbs. na lang kasi ang check-in baggage ngayon ng US/Canada flights.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: t1empo on Nov 24, 2008 at 12:16 PM
Hello everyone.. does anyone know where I can buy XD-E500 DVD player here in Manila? Of course for a good price  :) thanks!
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: jchilado on Nov 24, 2008 at 08:30 PM
@t1empo

I think TOY 01 was selling it at 7.5k.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: t1empo on Nov 25, 2008 at 07:05 AM
@t1empo

I think TOY 01 was selling it at 7.5k.

@jchilado - thanks for the reply... is this brand new?
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Nov 25, 2008 at 07:08 AM
@jchilado - thanks for the reply... is this brand new?
brand new yan, pinaparating pa ni sir toy01 from the states.  ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: CMac on Nov 26, 2008 at 05:20 PM
Mahaharangan kaya to ng customs if i let a relative carry this in with the box? 89 dollars na lang sa amazon kase with free shipping pa.  :-[ wag na lang i-declare siguro?
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Nov 26, 2008 at 05:24 PM
Mahaharangan kaya to ng customs if i let a relative carry this in with the box? 89 dollars na lang sa amazon kase with free shipping pa.  :-[ wag na lang i-declare siguro?

may risk syempre, pero pag balikbayan at may check in na balikbayan box, usually hindi nila hinahassle. pero pag walang bb box baka mapuna, laki din kahon nyan, tapos wala kang i-dedeclare. baka pag initan. pero syempre, pwedeng lumusot.  ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: CMac on Nov 26, 2008 at 05:26 PM
may risk syempre, pero pag balikbayan at may check in na balikbayan box, usually hindi nila hinahassle. pero pag walang bb box baka mapuna, laki din kahon nyan, tapos wala kang i-dedeclare. baka pag initan. pero syempre, pwedeng lumusot.  ;D

oh i see. so laking tulong tlaga ng balikbayan box. ok, tanong ko sa kanya kung meron siyang ganyan. thanks bro. yoko lang ma-hassle, bibisita na nga lang binigyan ko pa ng problema. hehe
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: redram on Dec 08, 2008 at 02:58 PM
Got my Toshiba XD-E500 package today. Will try to connect this tonight and will give impressions of this player later.

Hopefully it gives noticebale improvement to DVD viewing.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: simonzaide on Dec 08, 2008 at 03:04 PM
sir redram

where did u buy your toshiba ? im currently looking for this ? did u purchase it locally ?
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: reynold on Dec 08, 2008 at 03:29 PM
Got my Toshiba XD-E500 package today. Will try to connect this tonight and will give impressions of this player later.

Hopefully it gives noticebale improvement to DVD viewing.


Hope you can give us some review :)
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: redram on Dec 09, 2008 at 07:20 AM
The XD-E500 was purchased in Canada. I asked my sis the cost but she won't tell. I assumed it was bought at BestBuy 'coz of the plastic bag. I googled the site - 99 canadian dollars, slightly less than 4k.

My quick review.
1. The unit is light but well built. At the back the A/V connections seem complete (component, HDMI, optical out, etc.) The LED display is vey limited bordering useless, shows only chapter#.

2. Linked the DVD player with my Toshiba 37C3500 via HDMI (audiopro) for reference. Regza link worked! Decided to use TV remote.

3. Partly watched Region 1 LOTR-TROTK and Happy Feet. For LOTR was impressed with the improved detail (@ sharp mode by default). The picture seems richer and more alive than before. Played around with color and contrast mode and you can see subtle chages. Next was HF, was dismayed I never recalled seeing so many artifacts (don't know the proper term) specially between the letters on the starting credits. It improved a bit, less harsh, when I turned the enhancer off. I think the DVD resolution of this movie was at fault. But clearly I noticed new details I havent seen before like the penguin's coat (fur) so much more apparent.

4. For HDMI connection the resolution available are only the ff; 1080i, 1080p, 1080p-24 and auto.

5. Tried to make it multi region to test my local Region 3 discs. It worked liked a charm. Inserted another animation "Meet the Robinsons" to confirm the artifacts I saw in HF. None this time, the copy was better. Also, this is the first time I noticed little Goob has slight redness in the veins of his eyes due to lack of sleep while 4-eyes was making his pb & j gadget.

6. Connected  my Nextbase DVD via component, upscale to 720p and rerun HF to observe the difference in pq. To my surprise the artifacts seen previously was less significant. The pq is better it seems.

7. For its price I think this multi-region DVD upscaler is worth it specially if you alrady have a collection of DVDs and until Blu ray player & disc become more affordable.

8. The only negative so far, its 110v as I was impatient to wait for local distribution.

will do more tinkering later this week.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Dec 09, 2008 at 07:38 AM
The XD-E500 was purchased in Canada. I asked my sis the cost but she won't tell. I assumed it was bought at BestBuy 'coz of the plastic bag. I googled the site - 99 canadian dollars, slightly less than 4k.

My quick review.

5. Tried to make it multi region to test my local Region 3 discs. It worked liked a charm. Inserted another animation "Meet the Robinsons" to confirm the artifacts I saw in HF. None this time, the copy was better. Also, this is the first time I noticed little Goob has slight redness in the veins of his eyes due to lack of sleep while 4-eyes was making his pb & j gadget.

will do more tinkering later this week.

nice review!

question, how did you go about making it region free. thanks!
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: juanch on Dec 09, 2008 at 10:34 AM
@redram

Thanks for the review bud, can you test an old 4:3 movie.

I just want confirmation whether this unit retains the square image or does it stretch it to fill the widescreen.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: redram on Dec 09, 2008 at 12:26 PM
to make it region free

- open the tray
- type 2403960
- press 9  (9 appears on the upper right of the screen)
- close the tray
- switch player to standby
- turn on

enjoy your DVD collection
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: simonzaide on Dec 09, 2008 at 12:39 PM
thanks for the review sir would u know if it can play jack sparrow dvd's
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: sechiong on Dec 09, 2008 at 08:15 PM
meron bang optical output? i thought coaxial output lang meron.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: jchilado on Dec 11, 2008 at 09:43 PM
Got mine yesterday from Canada also.  Yes, it has an optical as well as coaxial output.  Better leave the enhancements off as introduces a lot of artifacts.  Its a great upscaler for the price.  $99 Canadian
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Moks007 on Dec 12, 2008 at 09:53 AM
Got mine yesterday from Canada also.  Yes, it has an optical as well as coaxial output.  Better leave the enhancements off as introduces a lot of artifacts.  Its a great upscaler for the price.  $99 Canadian

Got my Toshiba XD-E500 package today. Will try to connect this tonight and will give impressions of this player later.

Hopefully it gives noticebale improvement to DVD viewing.

Do you guys have other dvd players to compare it to like oppos 980, sony 708 (don't really know the model ;D), pioneer 600, 610, philips etc etc. I already have the oppo 980, so wanna  make sure first if its worth it to get one hehe..As long as its better than 980 I wanna get one, especially for 80 bucks :) There are some reviews saying this toshiba is excellent and some saying its not good. There are some saying you have to adjust your tv settings to get the best picture. Do you guys adjust your tv settings? bec it may oversharpen etc. etc. when you turn the enhancements on.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: jchilado on Dec 13, 2008 at 11:16 PM
@Moks007

My other player is a Pioneer DV-380.  I have no other unit to compare it with. 
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: jchilado on Dec 13, 2008 at 11:23 PM
@simonzaide

Yes, it plays our jack sparrow blu-ray r****d dvds.  Loading time is tad slower when using scratched discs.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Dec 14, 2008 at 06:22 PM
to make it region free

- open the tray
- type 2403960
- press 9  (9 appears on the upper right of the screen)
- close the tray
- switch player to standby
- turn on

enjoy your DVD collection

thanks!  ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: simonzaide on Dec 15, 2008 at 01:06 PM
@simonzaide

Yes, it plays our jack sparrow blu-ray r****d dvds.  Loading time is tad slower when using scratched discs.

thanks sir :)
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: mika888 on Dec 15, 2008 at 04:23 PM
Bought a bnew Toshiba XD-500 player yesterday from the US in my last minute shopping.  I will test it tonight.

(http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/6373/dsc2458kq5.jpg)

(http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/4735/dsc2459mt7.jpg)
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: mika888 on Dec 17, 2008 at 07:00 PM
Results so far upon testing the XDE. (this is my own personal opinion :) )

PQ
Compared to Samsung HD841, the PQ is sharp, vibrant as compared.  At 1080i more details can be seen specially in "sharp" mode. I used a John Meyer concert DVD.  I know very well that this is subjective to whoever is viewing it. 

I will try to shoot some images of a certain scenes for you guys to see the comparison.

I dont know yet about the oppo because I have not seen how good the PQ is.  (Considering that mountain view -oppo office is just less than 30 miles from my place  ;D)

You cannot compare the XDE with Blu-ray. But if you are going to compare it to any existing DVD upconverting player, i think XDE will stand out. 

Latest technology is better and the XDE is the latest.

Check this out> http://www.toshibaxde.com/

   
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: mika888 on Dec 18, 2008 at 11:57 AM
Anyone here who is near merville park or makati area that have an oppo? I would like sana to test the player against the oppo for comparison.

Im willing to bring my unit then use a dvd disc of choice of whoever owns the oppo.  Pm lang. Thanks
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: eksi on Dec 18, 2008 at 01:04 PM
Anyone here who is near merville park or makati area that have an oppo? I would like sana to test the player against the oppo for comparison.

Im willing to bring my unit then use a dvd disc of choice of whoever owns the oppo.  Pm lang. Thanks

bro mika888, u can try po yung shop that sells oppo sa rockwell (forgot the name of shop), located near cinema baka they can accomodate you
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: mika888 on Dec 18, 2008 at 02:17 PM
bro mika888, u can try po yung shop that sells oppo sa rockwell (forgot the name of shop), located near cinema baka they can accomodate you

Thanks bro... but I just hope they can accomodate me.   ;D  i really would love to test side by side the XDE with the Oppo.  ;)
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: jughn on Dec 19, 2008 at 08:58 AM
Yes, just got my Toshiba XD-E500 last night. Gwapo, very light. Brought in by my kumpadre ARRIGO from Toronto, Canada. Nabili sa Best Buy for Can$99.99 + 13.00 taxes = Can$112.99 landed cost.

Binili din nya ko ng BELKIN HDMI cable 1.3 version, 1.8m for Can$16.94

PQ and AQ both excellent.

It doesn't work well on p******dvd. Nag mo mosaik siya. Buy orig. Panalo!

Fast Forward niya hanggang 100X. Pag 4:3 aspect ratio, pwede mo siya stretch to 16:9 by simply pressing
FILL IN or PAN n SCAN sa set up under video.

Mayron din siyang DIGITAL & COAXIAL OUTPUT. Siempre kasama din COMPONENT VIDEO & S-VIDEO output.

Na unlocked ko rin region coding. Tnx to Redram.

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL PDVD MEMBERS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: mika888 on Dec 19, 2008 at 09:26 AM
Yes, just got my Toshiba XD-E500 last night. Gwapo, very light. Brought in by my kumpadre ARRIGO from Toronto, Canada. Nabili sa Best Buy for Can$99.99 + 13.00 taxes = Can$112.99 landed cost.

Binili din nya ko ng BELKIN HDMI cable 1.3 version, 1.8m for Can$16.94

PQ and AQ both excellent.

It doesn't work well on p******dvd. Nag mo mosaik siya. Buy orig. Panalo!

Fast Forward niya hanggang 100X. Pag 4:3 aspect ratio, pwede mo siya stretch to 16:9 by simply pressing
FILL IN or PAN n SCAN sa set up under video.

Mayron din siyang DIGITAL & COAXIAL OUTPUT. Siempre kasama din COMPONENT VIDEO & S-VIDEO output.

Na unlocked ko rin region coding. Tnx to Redram.

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL PDVD MEMBERS!!!!!!!!!!!!


Congrats sir.  i guess you had already set it to multi-region.

About the *******dvd, i guess what you have are "not so good" copies.  There are lot of things that you need to check and consider when buying such.  Anyway, to delicate to discuss here.  ;D 

So far, they work well with my unit. Great PQ and Sound! 
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: anya618 on Dec 31, 2008 at 11:37 AM
how to make ur xd-e500 region free
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdhacks?dvdplayer=xd-e500&hits=50&Search=Search
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: lithium_deuteride on Dec 31, 2008 at 07:13 PM
Nice having you around mika888.  You got a winner there in your XD-E500.  Beat my Oppo 983 on detail retrieval though I thought the Oppo had a more natural lighting - with the XD, my plasma rendered a bit like an LCD, not necessarily a bad thing especially if you are an LCD fan. Bang for the buck, the XD-E500 wins. Congrats.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: mika888 on Dec 31, 2008 at 07:42 PM
Nice having you around mika888.  You got a winner there in your XD-E500.  Beat my Oppo 983 on detail retrieval though I thought the Oppo had a more natural lighting - with the XD, my plasma rendered a bit like an LCD, not necessarily a bad thing especially if you are an LCD fan. Bang for the buck, the XD-E500 wins. Congrats.

I was surprise to see the difference.  In regard to the color, a viewer may calibrate their display to their own specifications.  I guess toshiba really made the XDE the alternative.

Thanks bro....  :)

Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: jchilado on Jan 15, 2009 at 09:44 PM
OT

I'm selling my Toshiba XD-E500

-Used only for a month
-Complete w/ box, manual and remote
-Reason for selling: I will be working abroad - totally unexpected
-Price: P6,000 negotiable

For those who are interested just PM me.  We can do meet-ups in QC, Makati or Alabang Area.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: dmaximus on Jan 16, 2009 at 01:31 AM
OT

I'm selling my Toshiba XD-E500

-Used only for a month
-Complete w/ box, manual and remote
-Reason for selling: I will be working abroad - totally unexpected
-Price: P6,000 negotiable

For those who are interested just PM me.  We can do meet-ups in QC, Makati or Alabang Area.


YGPM  ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: rage1018 on Jan 17, 2009 at 09:16 AM
OT

I'm selling my Toshiba XD-E500

-Used only for a month
-Complete w/ box, manual and remote
-Reason for selling: I will be working abroad - totally unexpected
-Price: P6,000 negotiable

For those who are interested just PM me.  We can do meet-ups in QC, Makati or Alabang Area.




sir YGPM. very interested
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: dmaximus on Jan 17, 2009 at 09:23 PM


sir YGPM. very interested

may sinwerte na na nauna sir. naunahan tyo.  ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: anya618 on Jan 17, 2009 at 09:26 PM
may sinwerte na na nauna sir. naunahan tyo.  ;D

if you are willing to wait i can get one for you. ETA is end of february
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: tonedeaf on Jan 25, 2009 at 09:56 AM
the prices quoted by those willing to bring this to the Philippines is getting more interesting :) kudos to everyone for the price drop!
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Invinciible on Jan 26, 2009 at 08:45 PM
the prices quoted by those willing to bring this to the Philippines is getting more interesting :) kudos to everyone for the price drop!

I got my xde500 right before the last price adjustment :'(  The thing is... at the price i got it this model is still my best buy so far this year  in terms of value for money.   ;D 
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Moks007 on Feb 25, 2009 at 12:26 PM
Ok guys here it is "the benchmark".
It has its positives and negatives. But the benchmark scored a 100- awesome.
The only other that scored a hundred is oppo 983.
Dudes 75 dollars for this. Imo, I think its a great buy if you will stay with dvd or have lots of dvd.

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/dvd-player-and-cd-player-reviews/dvd-players/toshiba-xd-e500-dvd-player.html
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: juanch on Feb 26, 2009 at 10:08 AM
^ nice review sir Raymond  ;)

seems really worth the 75 bucks
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: stryder on Mar 01, 2009 at 12:00 AM
i got my toshiba today and i just noticed that kung naka on ang pic mode (sharp, color, contrast), hinde puede i-set ang hdmi to 720p...default nya is 1080...kaso, lcd ko max res is only 720p..mga sirs, what do you recommend - i-off ko na lang ang pic mode and set it to 720p or i-set to on ang pic mode na lang ( anyway, my lcd can display 1080p inputs...btw, lcd ko is samsung series 3
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: james16 on Mar 01, 2009 at 10:31 AM
i would just suggest that you don't turn on the pic mode (that is kung ok sa mata mo na nde naka-on yun)
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: ericgnu on Mar 01, 2009 at 11:47 AM
mga sirs,

also read in another forum na the xde does not have a "last memory" feature?

minus points yun di ba?

cheers
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: stryder on Mar 01, 2009 at 11:53 AM
i would just suggest that you don't turn on the pic mode (that is kung ok sa mata mo na nde naka-on yun)
well i did tried it and so far ok lang naman visually...btw, sir, if my unit outputs at 1080 and my lcd converts it to its native resolution, would that pose a danger to my lcd in the long run?

mga sirs,

also read in another forum na the xde does not have a "last memory" feature?

minus points yun di ba?

cheers


just tried it now and yup, indeed wala nga yun "last memory" feature unlike my OPPO 980...for me, tho, it doesnt matter that much..but you're right, its a minus

btw, OT muna - mga peeps and gurus, ive posted this query of mine sa display forum but wala pang reply till now, so, perhaps dito meron makasagot - kasi i do play my ps2 sometimes using yun light gun (time crisis games etc.)..kaso, walang effect sa lcd...is this because hinde sila compatible? playing it with my crt tv wala naman problema...


Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: oneirogmophobic on Mar 03, 2009 at 10:54 AM
hi guys,

i just wanted to ask if any of you experience judder when the xde is set to 1080p/24? thanks.

Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: stryder on Mar 03, 2009 at 04:56 PM
hi guys,

i just wanted to ask if any of you experience judder when the xde is set to 1080p/24? thanks.


my unit is set to 1080p/f24 and im using a samsung lcd series 3 and so far, there's no judder or any hiccups videowise
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: crossedge on Mar 12, 2009 at 06:20 PM
Anyone knows how much is this unit in Singapore? Kung meron sa Singapore, and kasing mura ng price sa US, then I may opt to buy from there since I'll be there by next month.

All region naman to right? So kahit saang country bumili ok lang?
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: DVD_Freak on Mar 12, 2009 at 07:00 PM
I think the US units are region 1 locked.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Superman on Mar 20, 2009 at 12:56 PM
Got my unit c/o anya last weekend but I was on official business trip/s...Didn't have time yet to "set-up" last night as I was too tired due too the long trip (CDO to Davao)...but I will try tonight and will post my impressions ASAP, thanks! :D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: TOY 01 on Mar 20, 2009 at 01:31 PM
Anyone knows how much is this unit in Singapore? Kung meron sa Singapore, and kasing mura ng price sa US, then I may opt to buy from there since I'll be there by next month.

All region naman to right? So kahit saang country bumili ok lang?
I think sir pwede na siya gawin region free... ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Invinciible on Mar 22, 2009 at 06:52 AM
I think sir pwede na siya gawin region free... ;D

I can attest to this.  ;)
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: crossedge on Mar 23, 2009 at 05:53 PM
I can attest to this.  ;)

Thanks . . how much po ba SRP nito sa Pinas? I know meron nagbebenta dito na galing from US, pero medyo paranoid ako sa warranty e, kaya gusto ko sana yung galing dito yung bilhin for the warranty. Or kung mura sa Singapore dun nalang, kasi madali naman padala dun kung sakali may deffect.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Superman on Mar 24, 2009 at 08:14 PM
Thanks . . how much po ba SRP nito sa Pinas? I know meron nagbebenta dito na galing from US, pero medyo paranoid ako sa warranty e, kaya gusto ko sana yung galing dito yung bilhin for the warranty. Or kung mura sa Singapore dun nalang, kasi madali naman padala dun kung sakali may deffect.

I don't think this is available locally except from toy01 and anya618 w/c is on order basis...Try also SG...they might have them there...Check it out at Sim Lim Square
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: sjss on Mar 25, 2009 at 10:55 AM
i saw xd-e500 at the former "Image" in harrison plaza for about 8k
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: muhlach on Mar 29, 2009 at 11:28 AM
got my xde 500 yesterday c/o anya,very nice picture hook up with my panasonic pv7 compared to my pio 600.TNX AGAIN SIR ANYA!



Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Carlo777 on Mar 29, 2009 at 07:04 PM
XDE-500 initial impression/s:

Connected to a Panny PV80:

Connecting the player to the T.V via HDMI it automatically set the resolution to 720p and the XDE mode was kept at "sharp" by default. I did not bother going to 1080p because I don't use FULL HD resolutions on an HD-Ready T.V.

Underworld Evolution DVD: (XDE=ON)

At first I really noticed a significant "jump" in terms of picture quality over a Pioneer DV-410v and DV-600. I even thought for a moment, that the picture definition finally brought DVD to near true "high-def" standards. That, unfortunately was simply "biglang tingin" and after a few moments and a close inspection of the of picture quality. I noticed that the film was smothered with "edge-enhancement" marring intricate details. This is a very subjective issue as some folks in the house seem to like the effect. However, I was not too blown away by it because it made the film a little less than film like.

XDE=OFF

Now, this was a better picture definition for me, it's natural sharpness does not give it a more "digital" image, but it's still crisper and cleaner over my Pioneers without the bugs of edge enhancement.

My observation:

Still a good upscaler that surprisingly performs better without the bannered "enhancements".

More on this later, when we get to try it on a native 1080p set like the PY800 and the A650.

POST UPDATE:

Quick questions I got from my PM box and my answers:

1) Is it close to High-Def?

When the XDE is switched-on, it gives a somewhat "high-def" look.

2) Better than Pioneer 410v or 600?

Yes, cleaner, sharper and better defined colors even with XDE switched-off




Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: reynold on Apr 04, 2009 at 03:37 PM
Got mine from anya yesterday, Panalong-panalo for its price, wala akong masabi sa performance, picture quality is near HD, i like the XDE mode and its 3D effect  :D

Now it is set to 1080p/24f, kinaya ng 42PV80 ko, oks na oks pag Fast Action scene (Transformers (SD)) 
 8) 8) 8)


btw, my unit is already region free na so di ko na nagamit yung pag-unlock nya ;)
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: crossedge on Apr 16, 2009 at 02:14 PM
Just got this unit from SG, but I'm having a problem, walang lumalabas na audio sa TV using HDMI.

My TV is a Pana 42PV70 and I'm using a generic HDMI cable (yung libre sa TV :)). I have set the TV to accept digital audio input and set the XDE to ouptut PCM (this was indicated on the manual) but still no sound. There were no problems using component cables.

Any help will be very much appreciated, hopefully di ako nakakuha ng bad unit. May kinalaman kaya sa HDMI cable or dahil **** dvd's gamit ko?
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: reynold on Apr 16, 2009 at 08:19 PM
Hmmm...di ko pa na-try 'to ah... will try it tonight, i'll give you feedback tom, hopefully the same lang HDMI capabilities ng tv natin, mine is 42PV80 :)
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Apr 16, 2009 at 09:24 PM
Got my unit c/o anya last weekend but I was on official business trip/s...Didn't have time yet to "set-up" last night as I was too tired due too the long trip (CDO to Davao)...but I will try tonight and will post my impressions ASAP, thanks! :D

have you tried your unit jen?  unlocked already?
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: anya618 on Apr 16, 2009 at 10:24 PM
tried this on kylierod's units and it worked perfectly ;D
Quote
Codefree via remote control:

- open the tray
- type 2403960
- press 9
- close the tray
- turn the player off and back on again
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Invinciible on Apr 17, 2009 at 01:31 AM
tried this on kylierod's units and it worked perfectly ;D

I did it as soon as I got my unit... worked flawlessly...
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Apr 17, 2009 at 05:06 AM
tried this on kylierod's units and it worked perfectly ;D

thanks for this philip will try today.  ;)
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: crossedge on Apr 17, 2009 at 11:19 AM
Hmmm...di ko pa na-try 'to ah... will try it tonight, i'll give you feedback tom, hopefully the same lang HDMI capabilities ng tv natin, mine is 42PV80 :)

Paano po original setup nyo?
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: reynold on Apr 17, 2009 at 03:47 PM
Paano po original setup nyo?

Im using Standard Setup of my PV80, i just changed the color temperature to Cool, then set my XDE500 to 1080p, in this case i set the XDE mode to Contrast... the result is near HD ;)
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: crossedge on Apr 20, 2009 at 10:00 AM
Im using Standard Setup of my PV80, i just changed the color temperature to Cool, then set my XDE500 to 1080p, in this case i set the XDE mode to Contrast... the result is near HD ;)

Thanks for the info but what I mean is paano po setup nyo with the cables? HDMI for the video and analog cables for the audio?
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: demmet on Apr 20, 2009 at 10:33 AM
Dont want to pour rain to your parade but you better read this..

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8970722&st=XDE500+&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1218010258625#tabbed-customerreviews

mean to harm..fyi only.

peace!
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: reynold on Apr 20, 2009 at 10:35 AM
Thanks for the info but what I mean is paano po setup nyo with the cables? HDMI for the video and analog cables for the audio?

HDMI lang for the TV audio and video, no audio cables connected from my dvd player to the TV :)  ...though napansin ko lang that you need to increase the volume level of your tv when watching dvds if TV speakers lang ang gamit mo..
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: reynold on Apr 20, 2009 at 10:48 AM
Dont want to pour rain to your parade but you better read this..

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8970722&st=XDE500+&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1218010258625#tabbed-customerreviews

mean to harm..fyi only.

peace!

Well, those are unbiased reviews from the users of xde500, hopefully mine will last longer, hehe but im right though... about the picture quality thing ;)

Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: crossedge on Apr 20, 2009 at 09:56 PM
HDMI lang for the TV audio and video, no audio cables connected from my dvd player to the TV :)  ...though napansin ko lang that you need to increase the volume level of your tv when watching dvds if TV speakers lang ang gamit mo..

Eto ang di ko mapaandar. Ano po settings ng TV nyo and player nyo para mapalabas yng audio through HDMI? Actually I gave up on this setup and settled with audio cables nalang, naisip ko kasi baka walang capability yung tv(Pana 42PV70) ko to accept digital signals and di nya madecode kaya walang sound, anybody who can confirm this? :)

I just have to settle with good PQ with analog audio, works fine with me for now, pag bumili nalang ako speaker system tsaka ko problemahin yun. :)
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Carlo777 on Apr 20, 2009 at 10:13 PM
Eto ang di ko mapaandar. Ano po settings ng TV nyo and player nyo para mapalabas yng audio through HDMI? Actually I gave up on this setup and settled with audio cables nalang, naisip ko kasi baka walang capability yung tv(Pana 42PV70) ko to accept digital signals and di nya madecode kaya walang sound, anybody who can confirm this? :)

I just have to settle with good PQ with analog audio, works fine with me for now, pag bumili nalang ako speaker system tsaka ko problemahin yun. :)

Read your post and went down to our PV70 with my player (XDE-500) and tested it - Ok naman sir!

Video set to "Auto" lumabas 720p

Audio set to "PCM" and Night Mode "Off"

Using generic HDMI cable! Playing "I AM LEGEND" now.

Baka cable nyo boss ;)

Actually sir, my wife who still often watches movies say na mas "theatre" like nga ang PV70 namin with this player over our newer PV80 and PY800!

Settings nya

Cinema

Contrast 50
Brightness 48
Color 50
Sharpness 50
Tint Middle
Temp Warm
Color Management Off

Tapos close all yer lights!
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: redram on Apr 21, 2009 at 09:28 AM
@ crossedge - I have this toshiba xde connected to my toshiba regza lcd. No problem at all using HDMi connecion.

Note, however that some lcd have two types of HDMi input capabilty.
   1) with video and audio support. (usually found at HDMi 1)
   2) with video support ONLY. (usually found at HDMi 2).
   You are then required to use analog coonections for audio.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: crossedge on Apr 21, 2009 at 01:08 PM
Thanks for all your replies. Baka nga hdmi ko may problem. Try ko muna manghiram ng ibang hdmi to test it out.

Sir Carlo may sinet pa po ba kayo sa TV nyo to accept audio from hdmi?

May kinalaman din po kaya yung version ng hdmi cable, although I'm not sure though kung ano version ng sa akin, dapat ba 1.3? Pero nabasa ko naman somewhere na dapat backwards compatible yng mga hdmi cables so dapat walang problema sa version. Just confirming kung tama to or kailangan ko na bumili ng newer version ng cable?
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Carlo777 on Apr 21, 2009 at 11:49 PM
Thanks for all your replies. Baka nga hdmi ko may problem. Try ko muna manghiram ng ibang hdmi to test it out.

Sir Carlo may sinet pa po ba kayo sa TV nyo to accept audio from hdmi?

May kinalaman din po kaya yung version ng hdmi cable, although I'm not sure though kung ano version ng sa akin, dapat ba 1.3? Pero nabasa ko naman somewhere na dapat backwards compatible yng mga hdmi cables so dapat walang problema sa version. Just confirming kung tama to or kailangan ko na bumili ng newer version ng cable?

Nope, the audio is at default so there was no set-up of any kind. Plug and play^

HDMI is the 1.3 version but will have to verify that.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: crossedge on Apr 22, 2009 at 03:59 PM
Nope, the audio is at default so there was no set-up of any kind. Plug and play^

HDMI is the 1.3 version but will have to verify that.

Thanks sir. Ok, I'll give it a shot again this weekend. :) Paano po nachecheck version ng hdmi cable?
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: keymaker on May 31, 2009 at 07:45 PM
  Does this play avi files burned to dvd's?
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: TOY 01 on May 31, 2009 at 09:19 PM
  Does this play avi files burned to dvd's?
yup...yan ba yun divx
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: keymaker on Jun 02, 2009 at 05:42 PM
yup...yan ba yun divx

  Yup, divx and xvid, ganda rin ba or should i first convert to dvd format?
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: trojan on Jun 06, 2009 at 12:14 PM

I really love this player.  ;D
No regrets in getting one from Sir Anya.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: ramgos on Jul 03, 2009 at 06:14 AM
I got my 3 units Toshiba XD-E500 from sir Anya yesterday. Tested all 3.and pq was consistently great.I played Tears of the Sun and paused the screen showing the face of Bruce Willis, then tested the 3 modes while screen is at paused. and found out that the picture is more natural at "Sharp". Mas kita yung mga butas sa mukha ni Bruce Willis. ;D

While the pq of XDE is better than my Pioneer dv600. The sound volume of XDE is very low compared to the dv600. halos kalahati yung difference. The sound of dv600 is adequate on my 42pv80 at 30, but I need to adjust to 50-60 when using the XDE. I set it PCM. Is there a way to adjust the volume sa  unit of XDE? Please advise mga sirs.   :D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: ramgos on Jul 03, 2009 at 01:59 PM
By the way, Thank you sir Anya for the great deal.  ;D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: dmaximus on Jul 16, 2009 at 12:55 AM
Guys question does the xde really make a noise when playing a dvd? Mine does e. TIA
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: cire6 on Jul 16, 2009 at 09:37 AM
baka may grounded kang connections?
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: dmaximus on Jul 16, 2009 at 10:15 AM
baka may grounded kang connections?

I'll check sir. The sound comes from the disc spinning. Thanks bro.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: Superman on Jul 16, 2009 at 10:55 AM
Guys question does the xde really make a noise when playing a dvd? Mine does e. TIA

Mine, no noise sir, thanks!
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: dmaximus on Jul 16, 2009 at 01:52 PM
Mine, no noise sir, thanks!

patay. i texted the seller this morning pa hindi nagrereply e.  :-\
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: cire6 on Jul 16, 2009 at 03:57 PM
akala ko sa speaker yung sound  ;D, walang sound yung xde ko pag nag play.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: dmaximus on Jul 16, 2009 at 05:14 PM
akala ko sa speaker yung sound  ;D, walang sound yung xde ko pag nag play.

hehe. sana mabalik ko pa kung di maayos  :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: CeeV on Jul 16, 2009 at 06:41 PM
 ::) hala...sana nd na nainip.. ;)
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: dmaximus on Jul 16, 2009 at 07:03 PM
::) hala...sana nd na nainip.. ;)

toink! :'(  I know bro. try ko nga ulit mamaya. last night ko lang kasi na test e.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: chris69ners on Jul 16, 2009 at 10:43 PM
Try different dvds, if you still experience the noise to whatever disc you play then it could be a spindle motor problem.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: dmaximus on Jul 17, 2009 at 01:41 AM
Try different dvds, if you still experience the noise to whatever disc you play then it could be a spindle motor problem.
Bro i tried using different discs. It worked!!!  ;D ;D whew! Thanks for all the help i got. Peace 8)
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: chris69ners on Jul 17, 2009 at 06:45 AM
Good for you sir!  :D
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: amdxp on Jul 20, 2009 at 01:05 AM
what are your usual setup? direct connection to tv or connect the hdmi to avr first then out to tv> which one would look better in terms of picture quality> pls advice thanks.
Title: Re: Toshiba stubbornly launches the un-Blu-ray, XD-E500 DVD player
Post by: iiinas on Jul 20, 2009 at 06:45 AM
what are your usual setup? direct connection to tv or connect the hdmi to avr first then out to tv> which one would look better in terms of picture quality> pls advice thanks.

the right way imho is to connect it directly to the panel's hdmi input for unadulterated signal, but using the avr as switcher has its merits too. most panels has two hdmi inputs, with a dvd upscaler, maybe a ps3 or bluray player, your panel's hdmi inputs can be used up quite fast. hence video switching through avrs. if ever there will be degradation using the avr to pass through video signal, i would say its close nothing.

so for me, i would use the avr connection as this is one of the reasons we use an avr (besides audio reproduction), is to use its multiple inputs for easy and convenient video switching.
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Post by: amdxp on Jul 20, 2009 at 09:07 AM
the right way imho is to connect it directly to the panel's hdmi input for unadulterated signal, but using the avr as switcher has its merits too. most panels has two hdmi inputs, with a dvd upscaler, maybe a ps3 or bluray player, your panel's hdmi inputs can be used up quite fast. hence video switching through avrs. if ever there will be degradation using the avr to pass through video signal, i would say its close nothing.

so for me, i would use the avr connection as this is one of the reasons we use an avr (besides audio reproduction), is to use its multiple inputs for easy and convenient video switching.

good to know man... i was contemplating on whether the the upscaler of the receiver or the player would be used to produce the picture.. and i don't know which one does it better..  thanks again.
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Post by: iiinas on Jul 21, 2009 at 06:38 AM
good to know man... i was contemplating on whether the the upscaler of the receiver or the player would be used to produce the picture.. and i don't know which one does it better..  thanks again.

really depends, the best way is to test it. since the xde's upscaling has been likened to the oppos, then it should be good. but its still best to try your avr's upscaling capabilities. if ever the xde does better, you can still use the avr for switching by turning the avr's upscaling off so it only does pass through.  :)
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Post by: amdxp on Jul 22, 2009 at 12:04 PM
really depends, the best way is to test it. since the xde's upscaling has been likened to the oppos, then it should be good. but its still best to try your avr's upscaling capabilities. if ever the xde does better, you can still use the avr for switching by turning the avr's upscaling off so it only does pass through.  :)

thanks man... as for the audio? many of the users here use pcm? i read in the manual that if you have an avr that has dts decoder then use the bitstream instead?which ones better of the two? i had issues with the audio im not sure if its regarding this audio or an avr problem..
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Post by: iiinas on Jul 23, 2009 at 06:46 AM
thanks man... as for the audio? many of the users here use pcm? i read in the manual that if you have an avr that has dts decoder then use the bitstream instead?which ones better of the two? i had issues with the audio im not sure if its regarding this audio or an avr problem..

for audio, i think it will be best if you use the receiver to decode all surround sound, may it be the classic dolby d, dts or the newer hd surround format like dolby tru hd or dts ma.

for classic surround sound just make sure your receiver have either a digital audio coax input or an optical audio input. both connections will output the surround sound. but for hd surround sound, this will only output through hdmi. but if its the xde we are talking about, i think the connections will be:

video:

xde hdmi out ---> receiver hdmi in
                         receiver hdmi out ---> to lcd/plasma hdmi in

audio:

xde coax/optical out ---> receiver coax/optical in ---> surround sound output through speakers
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Post by: amdxp on Jul 23, 2009 at 10:41 AM
for audio, i think it will be best if you use the receiver to decode all surround sound, may it be the classic dolby d, dts or the newer hd surround format like dolby tru hd or dts ma.

for classic surround sound just make sure your receiver have either a digital audio coax input or an optical audio input. both connections will output the surround sound. but for hd surround sound, this will only output through hdmi. but if its the xde we are talking about, i think the connections will be:

video:

xde hdmi out ---> receiver hdmi in
                         receiver hdmi out ---> to lcd/plasma hdmi in

audio:

xde coax/optical out ---> receiver coax/optical in ---> surround sound output through speakers


thanks man.. but hdmi itself could cover both the audio and the video right? or do you suggest i connect the digital audio too? nwy abt the xde audio..  my connection is thru hdmi and yeah i let the receiver handle both vid and audio.. bt was just wondering about the option in xde which is bitstream and pcm. would it still be used when i connect the xde to the receiver.. i dnt have the option off as i rmmbr.. 
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Post by: iiinas on Jul 23, 2009 at 04:19 PM
if you choose bitstream then you let the receiver do the encoding, this is when you will see the receiver display the words dolby d or dts for whatever encode the disc is playing. but by choosing pcm, the xde will output audio in multi-channel lossless pcm format, but what you will see in your receiver's display is multichannel (regardless of what you choose in the dvd audio menu; dts or dolby). both will work, but most people will choose bitstream so that its the receiver that does the audio decoding.
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Post by: amdxp on Jul 24, 2009 at 09:57 AM
if you choose bitstream then you let the receiver do the encoding, this is when you will see the receiver display the words dolby d or dts for whatever encode the disc is playing. but by choosing pcm, the xde will output audio in multi-channel lossless pcm format, but what you will see in your receiver's display is multichannel (regardless of what you choose in the dvd audio menu; dts or dolby). both will work, but most people will choose bitstream so that its the receiver that does the audio decoding.

thank you sir.
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Post by: halvert on Aug 25, 2009 at 02:04 PM
to anyone who knows, how does this compare to the generic xtreme upscaler?
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Post by: jepoi on Sep 03, 2009 at 04:03 AM
to those who own this unit, is it true that it has a subpar performance when playing p*dvds?

that could be a deal breaker for me as, i have to admit, majority of my movies are jack sparrow sourced.  i won't go into details as it might already fall under banned topics.   :-X

just a confirmation of this would be really appreciated as i'll be getting my player this weekend.

thanks in advance!
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Post by: keeper on Sep 07, 2009 at 07:00 PM
to those who own this unit, is it true that it has a subpar performance when playing p*dvds?

that could be a deal breaker for me as, i have to admit, majority of my movies are jack sparrow sourced.  i won't go into details as it might already fall under banned topics.   :-X

just a confirmation of this would be really appreciated as i'll be getting my player this weekend.

thanks in advance!

it actually depends on the quality of ur jack sparrow dvds. i tried some of my jack sparrow dvds ( ung maganda packaging, may slipcase) on the XDE and projected it using AX200 to a 90in screen, its ok/acceptable naman. i just set the XDE to auto not 1080p/24p coz at that setting, that would be asking too much of the jack sparrow dvd. ;)
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Post by: keeper on Sep 07, 2009 at 07:03 PM
il try to post some pics for u this wed cguro. so u can judge for urself.  ;)
so far, am very satisfied with this player.
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Post by: titopepe on Sep 08, 2009 at 04:55 PM
may noise ka rin minsan yung xde ko...

pag try ok 1080p 24p nag fflicker na yung tv.

and ayaw gumana ng digital out. di madecode yung dts.
kagabi ko pa kinakalikot ayaw gumana.
i'm using belden coax cable...

pano pala i-off yung hdmi audio?

saka pag minsan press ko eject, ayaw mag eject ng cd. kelangan pa press ulit.


sino pwede magpahiram ng ibang dvd upscaler? gusto ko lang makita difference... =)
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Post by: keeper on Sep 09, 2009 at 12:33 AM
as promised. images from good quality jack sparrow dvds using Auto setting of XDE 500.

(http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz101/keeper76/pirateddvd.jpg)

(http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz101/keeper76/pirateddvd1.jpg)

too bad i cant give yet a comparison pic using the original DVDs of LOTR. my bro borrowed it..  ;D
but may difference talaga.  w/c means that if ur impressed with this screenshot from jack sparrow dvds... den imagine what the original ones look like.. ;)
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Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 11, 2009 at 08:18 AM
keeper, anong display gamit mo bro?
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Post by: iiinas on Sep 11, 2009 at 09:33 AM
keeper, anong display gamit mo bro?

i believe naka ax200 panny pj si brader keeper.  ;)
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Post by: keeper on Sep 11, 2009 at 09:29 PM
keeper, anong display gamit mo bro?

i believe naka ax200 panny pj si brader keeper.  ;)

yup!  ;D
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Post by: titopepe on Sep 12, 2009 at 02:13 AM
swabe nga yang LOTR sa xde...
kakatapos lang namin ng trilogy.
jack sparrow dvd rin..

question ko lang bakit nag flicker sa 1080p/24hz...
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Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 12, 2009 at 02:50 AM
i believe naka ax200 panny pj si brader keeper.  ;)
panalo yun upscaling ah .. :D
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Post by: keeper on Sep 12, 2009 at 07:15 AM
swabe nga yang LOTR sa xde...
kakatapos lang namin ng trilogy.
jack sparrow dvd rin..

question ko lang bakit nag flicker sa 1080p/24hz...

sir, yan po ang point na ni raise ni sir barrister at the beginning of this thread.


What I can't figure out is how this player can output in 24p (24 frames per second), when SD DVD is already encoded in 30p for NTSC (60 frames interlaced) and 25p for PAL (50 frames interlaced).

Can it reverse the 3:2 pulldown on a commercial DVD, or does it only work on a 24p-encoded home movie from a DVD camcorder?


anyway, i did experience the flicker pag naka set sa 1080p/24, kahit sa orig na DVD ( casino royale, true lies). kaya ginawa ko, set to 1080p nalang. :) hindi ko rin na notice ung diff eh. ;D

dis s my setting
orig dvd = 1080p
jack sparow = auto.
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Post by: titopepe on Sep 14, 2009 at 12:25 PM
pano palitan yung display niya?
from TOSHIBA to XDE?
and yung chapters to time?
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Post by: barrister on Sep 16, 2009 at 12:01 PM
...question ko lang bakit nag flicker sa 1080p/24hz...

Nasa TV yata talaga ang problema sir. 




Related posts:

... At SM appliance in V-Mall Greenhills, I requested a 24p demo on their 50S10.  They showed me a BD clip of Fast & Furious at 24p. 

Surprisingly, 24p looked worse than standard 60p (from the short audition I got, at least).  And I noticed very obvious flicker in the sky on one scene.

... about yung flicker po, even the py800 has it when 24p is activated.
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Post by: boogel on Sep 18, 2009 at 12:44 AM
i got my unit from sir anya yesterday, very satisfied with the xde's performance. hooked it up with my panasonic avr using the optical out and hdmi, great sound and pq! kahit yung mga downloaded movies ko from the net ang layo ng difference i terms of pq dun sa old player (panasonic) ko... i was already set to buy the pioneer av420, buti na lang nakita ko yung thread ni sir phillip!  :)
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Post by: praktikal on Sep 18, 2009 at 01:32 PM
i got my unit from sir anya yesterday, very satisfied with the xde's performance. hooked it up with my panasonic avr using the optical out and hdmi, great sound and pq! kahit yung mga downloaded movies ko from the net ang layo ng difference i terms of pq dun sa old player (panasonic) ko... i was already set to buy the pioneer av420, buti na lang nakita ko yung thread ni sir phillip!  :)

uy! manny, andito ka na rin ha, welcome sa pdvd!  ;)
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Post by: boogel on Sep 19, 2009 at 12:13 AM
noli! thanks sa pag welcome sir...
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Post by: thebat on Oct 26, 2009 at 03:26 PM
Saan store mura benta ng XDE500? Listening In Style is offering P6,500. Me mas mura pa ba dito?
Can this unit play jack sparrows (and all formats/regions)?
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Post by: keeper on Oct 26, 2009 at 07:38 PM
Saan store mura benta ng XDE500? Listening In Style is offering P6,500. Me mas mura pa ba dito?
Can this unit play jack sparrows (and all formats/regions)?

try sir philip/anya618. got my unit from him, 110V US. P4,500. i posted a pic using JS dvds.
yes, it can be made region free. ;)
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Post by: Pillow on Oct 28, 2009 at 09:22 AM
try sir philip/anya618. got my unit from him, 110V US. P4,500. i posted a pic using JS dvds.
yes, it can be made region free. ;)
pde ba ipa service locally just in case nag conk out?
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Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 28, 2009 at 10:10 PM
ot:  are all tosh players using the same process of region unlocking?
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Post by: keeper on Oct 28, 2009 at 11:58 PM
pde ba ipa service locally just in case nag conk out?

i asked around here in Cebu before i ordered the XDE unit from anya618, they say they'll accept it naman. this shop was referred by the sales people in the dept stores when i asked for the service centers of Toshiba. ;)
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Post by: simonzaide on May 13, 2010 at 11:45 PM
guys quick question most of us got the 110 version of this unit. do u think having it converted to 220 would affect the performance in any way ?
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Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 09, 2010 at 06:51 AM
Is the region hack of the XDE500 only for regions 1&3?  I tried both regions and they played ok.  Yesterday, I tried loading my WOTW R2 (Japan) and it displayed on the screen that the REgion is not compatible.  Should I just do the region unlocking again? (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/39.gif)