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Home Theater => Sources => NMTs => Topic started by: frootloops on Sep 16, 2008 at 10:25 PM
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Hoping this POLL will help some members on which route to take. I for one wanted an upscaling player at first, then thought of going all the way BLU, however, in the past days or months, I've noticed that Hi-Def downloads are beginning to enter the scene.
I understand that some might take the BLU with a drop of a hat, some might have all (3) (let's not take into consideration the cost of the players) what I would like to know is the general advantages/disadvantages of each players.
Many thanks!
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PCH for me, or any nmt based player for others. hd downloads specially for materials that are not bluray keepers is the most cost effective way to experience hd. even with great upscalers i think hd mkv files will still trump any upscaled sd material. (unless you have a really really great set up)
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Why not include htpc in your poll sir Loop?
You can play DVD and Blu-ray in your htpc. You can put your pics, videos, huge collection of music, dvd and blu-ray inside your hard disk and just play it in your htpc anytime you want. You can play kick-ass game with your htpc. There's no need to buy new high-end players because all you need to do is just upgrade your hardware and software and you're good to go again. It may be expensive at first but because of the free stuff (latest video and audio codec, hd files and lossless music format) that you can download free I think it's all worth it. Flexibility wise, nothing beats htpc. IMO :) Power comsumption...that's another story. ;D
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@ sir dyerds, sorry for the confusion, the poll is intended for stand alone players for a dedicated Home Theater. But yes, I do agree with you that HTPC is also a good source of HD's, that might go for the others. ;)
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Nice topic Sir Froot! ;) Like you, I am in the stage of choosing which route to take. As seen in my thread..."Going High Def..."
Link: http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=84863.0
I initially wanted to go Blu-ray direct. My current movie collection is composed of DVD's from various regions. I auditioned the Pana BD30 in terms of its upscaling capabilities for viewing dvd's, I was not impressed at all. :( In fact, the Pio DV600 provided the same image like the Blu-ray player, interms of viewing dvd's. :o
Since this was the case, I decided to just go with the upscaling dvd player instead. ::) For one, the price of the unit is cheaper and will already give me the "high def picture" I need that comes with it's upscaling capabilities. ;D
I still have not purchased an upscaling dvd player at this time, as I am still researching what the best option will be. :-\
I hope that his thread you created can benefit me in deciding which way to go. ;D
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you have to consider HD audio too
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Here is my take..
If you are just "watching the movie" and don't really watch special features or want some movies that are not yet out in blu-ray. I would get the popcorn hour. This player is really awesome ;) both pics and sound..Saves you lots of money spending on hd discs.
If you are a collector, lots of dvds, want the best pics and audio, lots of cash to spare, lots of money to buy bluray discs and dvds ;D then I would buy a ps3 or a panasonic standalone. I would also buy a real excellent dvd player for your dvds ONLY, like the oppo 980 or oppo 983.
If you are a collector, lots of dvds, satisfied with the audio, satisfied with a video that is "good enough" where SOME movies can be really close to hidef imo, can wait till bluray players come down to 99 dollars and software at 12 to 15 dollars to justify double dipping titles you already have on dvd ;D ;D, then I would just buy an excellent dvd player first like one of the oppos. I assure you when you buy an excellent dvd player like the oppo 980 ;), you will want to go back to your hundreds and hundreds of dvds and rewatch them all over again with pure satisfaction. The crave is there ;D
If you know somebody with bluray or popcorn, go check it out first before jumping in. I recommend checking out Curse of the Golden Flower in blu-ray and compare it with the dvd version. The blu-ray version is WOW, fantastic imo..Colors, details of armor, etc. You can also check out some other reference quality blurays and compare it to dvds or vice versa.
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I have over 550 reasons (and counting) to prefer HTPC over any other option. I'm addicted to watching anything high def (TV series, documentaries, sports, movies, pron) while the 2nd monitor displays PinoyDVD.com (last week grabe ISTORBO ng Scammer na yan sa panonood ng maayos ;D ;D ;D)
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for me Blu is the way to go, Hi-def to me is both audio & video and i think i can get this by going blu. I am wanting to buy a PCH also but don't have the time to download movies, so my option is limited only to the available movies offered by the seller. Problem is most of the movies available I have either on DVD or BD. I can't really justify buying the PCH at this time not unless somebody will sell it and put in TV series like 24, Prison Break & Heroes. I have seen the PCH at work and indeed it produces good video & audio, but i also can experience the same using my DVDs. The model PCH 110 can output bitstream which is good. Kaya lang a 1080p movie will take up around 40GB in harddisk space, so a 1 TB HDD can only accomodate mga 25 movies. If I compute the cost of the PCH 110 + 1 TB HDD it will be equivalent to buying around the same number of individual BDs ;)
i too am waiting for the price of a standalone player to go down (now Pana BD30 is somewhere around $260 sa Amazon) very tempting indeed. Wanted to let my receiver process data instead of my PS3. Sa PS3 kasi i notice na there are BD titles that sound better if i output in bitstream and others better if I output in PCM ??? kaya papalit palit pa ako ng settings. Yung mga audio na True HD, DTS MA ok sa PCM but the rest for me mas ok sa bitstream.
i might be wrong in my assumptions pero as of now this is how i see it ;)
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for me Blu is the way to go, Hi-def to me is both audio & video and i think i can get this by going blu. I am wanting to buy a PCH also but don't have the time to download movies, so my option is limited only to the available movies offered by the seller. Problem is most of the movies available I have either on DVD or BD. I can't really justify buying the PCH at this time not unless somebody will sell it and put in TV series like 24, Prison Break & Heroes. I have seen the PCH at work and indeed it produces good video & audio, but i also can experience the same using my DVDs. The model PCH 110 can output bitstream which is good. Kaya lang a 1080p movie will take up around 40GB in harddisk space, so a 1 TB HDD can only accomodate mga 25 movies. If I compute the cost of the PCH 110 + 1 TB HDD it will be equivalent to buying around the same number of individual BDs ;)
i too am waiting for the price of a standalone player to go down (now Pana BD30 is somewhere around $260 sa Amazon) very tempting indeed. Wanted to let my receiver process data instead of my PS3. Sa PS3 kasi i notice na there are BD titles that sound better if i output in bitstream and others better if I output in PCM ??? kaya papalit palit pa ako ng settings. Yung mga audio na True HD, DTS MA ok sa PCM but the rest for me mas ok sa bitstream.
i might be wrong in my assumptions pero as of now this is how i see it ;)
very true sir vtec3, but i think the 40gb 1080p per movie is for the fresh rips from bluray. but once put into mkv containers, its roughly 4-6gb for a 720p encoded movie, and 8-10gb for a 1080p encoded movie. and yes, definitely no hd audio only the classic dd and dts. ;D
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Two or three months ago, I would have suggested to go all-out Blu-ray.
Not anymore. Since having a hand in a PCH, my BD purchases have gone south considerably.
Which way to go?? Ill go both ways......
My new strategy:
1. Filtered my Blu-ray purchases. I have no particular criteria in a film (can be a critically-acclaimed film, or a huge blockbuster hit), but it must be a very good BD, in terms of video and audio quality. Leaning over to action films here, since the film's explosive soundtrack will benefit my HT through BD's lossless sound formats.
Sample of my target BD purchases in the coming months: Godfather Collection, Band of Brothers, Ironman, Dark Knight, Hellboy 2, Kung Fu Panda. Thats all...
2. All others I would like to see, I use the PCH. Just like iisnaslao has posted, I just choose the 4-8gb files. Most of my choices in this part are comedies/romance/dramas, which doesnt exactly need to be in lossless sound format.
My 1 TB hard drive contains 140 files. Overwhelmed na nga ako sa content.
This way....I get all movies I want.....and all in HD video. ;)
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hmmmmm..... :-\
Pio or Oppo Upscaling DVD Players = Cheap, Reasonable and Affordable Price, but not "true" HD.
Blu-ray Players = Very expensive machines, very expensive discs as well.
PCH - I still have to experience first hand what this unit can do, co'z I have no idea whatsoever... :(
Hay....decisions...decisions...decisions... :P
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dagdag pa natin yung decision as to what Flat Panel to choose (Plasma vs LCD), PCH 100 or PCH 110 and also what AVR ;D
This thread is giving me new insights ;) dami talaga learnings dito sa forum ;)
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dagdag pa natin yung decision as to what Flat Panel to choose (Plasma vs LCD), PCH 100 of PCH 110 and also what AVR ;D
This thread is giving me new insights ;) dami talaga learnings dito sa forum ;)
Yung Plasma vs LCD....personal na choice na lang yan for a flat panel.
PCH A100 or A110. Yep, nakaka bitstream na ng HD sound format yung huli. BUt the thing is, our broadband infrastructure is still way behind for us to have patience in waiting for 40GB files to be completed. If I want a movie in lossless sound format, bilhin ko na lang sa BD.
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hmmmmm..... :-\
Pio or Oppo Upscaling DVD Players = Cheap, Reasonable and Affordable Price, but not "true" HD.
Blu-ray Players = Very expensive machines, very expensive discs as well.
PCH - I still have to experience first hand what this unit can do, co'z I have no idea whatsoever... :(
Hay....decisions...decisions...decisions... :P
kung pwede lahat. hehehe ;D ;D ;D
but if you are just starting. ideally, get an upscaler, so that you can view your dvd collection in a different way, then decide between bluray player or popcorn. but if you are looking for cost effective way on going hd, for me pch or any network media tank is the way to go.
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Hi froot ;D been contimplating myself on which route to take ;D
Yes you are right, the introduction of mkv players has really made buying stand alone Hd(blu-ray) players quite confusing(more of discouraging ;D). But downloading is not for everyone, I myself would not like to go through the hassle of both uploading and downloading just to see a movie :P Plus I gathered that you need a high speed dsl connection with a reputable internet provider(meron ba nun dito sa pilipinas >:() to get decent files.
Also vtec3 is correct that the cost of buying storage to save those files are not that cheap,actually when you compute it its almost on the same level na as the counterpart :( So buying the blu-ray title would be more practical since may resale value pa sya ;)
Would buying a stand alone bdplayer better? Well better for some But not for me at this time. Most blu-ray titles are not that good based on reviews and most of the recent titles I've watched on dvd are not WORTH TO OWN AND COLLECT :( :( :( so imagine if I bought that in blu-ray, yung P****** copies na nga nakakahinayang na eh(cheap ko noh ;D)
Ano nga ba talaga ang maganda? Well I 've just invested in a good upscaling dvd player so i can still continue to enjoy watching my dvd collection atleast on a 720p resolution plus I dont intend to buy again titles I already have in sd in blu-ray format na naman(waste of money considering how easily it depreciates over time just like what happened to sd :().So would I recommend it? YES only if you really NEED a dvd player and kuhain mo na yung may good up-converting capabilities,otherwise just wait and see what will happen sa economy ;D Also those local R3s are beginning to be offered in a very attractive price na sulit na talaga bilihin ;)
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PCH A100 or A110. Yep, nakaka bitstream na ng HD sound format yung huli. BUt the thing is, our broadband infrastructure is still way behind for us to have patience in waiting for 40GB files to be completed. If I want a movie in lossless sound format, bilhin ko na lang sa BD.
very true, kaya medyo napipigilan ko yung sarili ko to buy the PCH because of the time/patience required to download. better talaga to buy na lang the title sa BD. but the PCH is really a very cool gadget and something nice to have.
ay sana mayron store na puwede puntahan at magpa load ka ng mga movies or series that you want ;)
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very true, kaya medyo napipigilan ko yung sarili ko to buy the PCH because of the time/patience required to download. better talaga to buy na lang the title sa BD. but the PCH is really a very cool gadget and something nice to have.
ay sana mayron store na puwede puntahan at magpa load ka ng mga movies or series that you want ;)
I heard meron, lifetime free uploads daw basta sa kanya binili yung player :)
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But not for me at this time. Most blu-ray titles are not that good based on reviews and most of the recent titles I've watched on dvd are not WORTH TO OWN AND COLLECT :( :( :(
ricky, isang example for me ng BD title na na bili ko na feeling ko talaga sayang is MI-2. I like watching this movie sa DVD so i thought mag enjoy din ako dito sa BD and i am totally mistaken :(
in hindsight the reason why i invested in this HD thing is to be able to maximize the new gears that i bought. started with the TV then AVR and so on. Probably the same thing is happening to bro froot that is why he is contemplating on which path to take ;) not to mention also pala yung palagi ko pagbabasa dito sa PDVD forum, naka apekto ng malaki sa gastos ko para sa hobby na ito ;D
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sir ricky
hehe, don't want to sound like a fanboy but just to clarify a few things about pch.
Yes you are right, the introduction of mkv players has really made buying stand alone Hd(blu-ray) players quite confusing(more of discouraging ;D). But downloading is not for everyone, I myself would not like to go through the hassle of both uploading and downloading just to see a movie :P Plus I gathered that you need a high speed dsl connection with a reputable internet provider(meron ba nun dito sa pilipinas >:() to get decent files.
speed of internet connection does not affect quality of the mkv files we can get from the net, but it definitely affects how long it takes to get a movie, on a 1 mbps dsl connection, a 4gb movie (720p) will take from 15-24 hours to finish downloading.
Also vtec3 is correct that the cost of buying storage to save those files are not that cheap,actually when you compute it its almost on the same level na as the counterpart :( So buying the blu-ray title would be more practical since may resale value pa sya ;)
if we do the math, lets say you get 100 blurays at a flat rate of 800 pesos each that's equals to 80,000 pesos. as for a 100 mkvs (@720p resolution), these will fit a 500 gb hdd which cost around 6,000 pesos, even if we charge 40 pesos per mkv downloaded for equipment depreciation, time and electricity, each movie will cost around 100 pesos only. and lastly if you want all 1080p mkvs it will take a 1 tb to house all of them and a 1 tb hdd cost around 10,000 pesos + the fix cost of 40 pesos per mkv will translate to 140 pesos for each movie, pq is maybe 85-90% of the bluray but for audio, since its only classic dd or dts, bluray defnitely has the edge here.
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ricky, isang example for me ng BD title na na bili ko na feeling ko talaga sayang is MI-2. I like watching this movie sa DVD so i thought mag enjoy din ako dito sa BD and i am totally mistaken :(
in hindsight the reason why i invested in this HD thing is to be able to maximize the new gears that i bought. started with the TV then AVR and so on. Probably the same thing is happening to bro froot that is why he is contemplating on which path to take ;) not to mention also pala yung palagi ko pagbabasa dito sa PDVD forum, naka apekto ng malaki sa gastos ko para sa hobby na ito ;D
;D ;D ;D I just hope you dont end up being a scammer ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Hoy vic12 buhay ka pa? :D
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sir ricky
hehe, don't want to sound like a fanboy but just to clarify a few things about pch.
Yes you are right, the introduction of mkv players has really made buying stand alone Hd(blu-ray) players quite confusing(more of discouraging ;D). But downloading is not for everyone, I myself would not like to go through the hassle of both uploading and downloading just to see a movie :P Plus I gathered that you need a high speed dsl connection with a reputable internet provider(meron ba nun dito sa pilipinas >:() to get decent files.
speed of internet connection does not affect quality of the mkv files we can get from the net, but it definitely affects how long it takes to get a movie, on a 1 mbps dsl connection, a 4gb movie (720p) will take from 15-24 hours to finish downloading. Yeah I know this
Also vtec3 is correct that the cost of buying storage to save those files are not that cheap,actually when you compute it its almost on the same level na as the counterpart :( So buying the blu-ray title would be more practical since may resale value pa sya ;)
if we do the math, lets say you get 100 blurays at a flat rate of 800 pesos each that's equals to 80,000 pesos. as for a 100 mkvs (@720p resolution), these will fit a 500 gb hdd which cost around 6,000 pesos, even if we charge 40 pesos per mkv downloaded for equipment depreciation, time and electricity, each movie will cost around 100 pesos only. and lastly if you want all 1080p mkvs it will take a 1 tb to house all of them and a 1 tb hdd cost around 10,000 pesos + the fix cost of 40 pesos per mkv will translate to 140 pesos for each movie, pq is maybe 85-90% of the bluray but for audio, since its only classic dd or dts, bluray defnitely has the edge here. You are definitly right on this, but 140pesos to view/save a downloaded movie is rather unreasonable for me at this time. Maybe soon I can grasp the sense of it but for now pwede na yung sale R3 and sometimes yung blewrey :-[ upconverted to 720p. Hindi naman ako maselan :D Plus the fact that pch cant up-convert my sd collection to 720p,or can it? ??? Might get the egreat player din soon, might not :D peace ;)
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oo nga sir ricky, the jack sparrow blewrey dvds are something.... ;D
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oo nga sir ricky, the jack sparrow blewrey dvds are something.... ;D
Ah yan may orig ako nyan ;D :D And BTW ricky na lang, pare pareho naman tayo mga addicts dito eh ;) ;D
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Ang problema dito may pera kasi na sobra at pwedeng gastusin, if none, the hell I waste my time here. ;D IOW, nangangati! Caladryl nga dyan! >:( ;D
Okay, I am starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel here (I think..), I just hope that it is not a da*n train. :D
This CONFUSION started when I bought 500gb HDD, got it primarily to back-up all my files, and fortunately or unfortunately, it contains HD's. (got it at the marketplace). So!....then I PM'd several good friends here like sir Munskie about his take on the PCH. Got a +/- feedbacks, however it was more on the good side.
Later!....the OPPO 980 came into mind, given it's very reasonable price, I again asked the expertise of sir Pchin in regards to OPPO player in general (he owns 983), I was advised to get the 983, but told him I was only gearing for the 980. Given a few minutes, I was just about to hit the BUY button when I read that the 980 is only good or prefers for screens up to 42? Eh..I plan to use it my my PJ (90"), so scratched that for the mean time. You may ask why I didn't go for the 983?...reading and based on some feedbacks, the upscaler or some call it cosmetic HD is not that satisfying. Parang pinipilit lang ang feeling ko sa upscaler....which I maybe wrong, based on the feedbacks I read now.
Now here comes the HTPC, @ dyerds, I agreed with you right? ;D why don't I just upgrade my PC and use it for my PJ, then get a small screen for my personal use, a swiveling arm beside my chair ? (got this idea from sir jay2... ;) ) this I think is the most cost effective way of using my HDD. Baka makabili pa ako ng laptop. ;D However, thinking of the DL part, im which I don't really have the patience and my DSL connection speed is not that fast, but the PCH is very comfortable to use. This will still be second on my list. I'd still prefer going out,shopping for DVD's. I am actually having the same dilemna when I had an iPod, do I rip and get rid of all my CD's and just settle for this thingy? May gusto ko pa rin yung may hinahawakan at nayayakap. ;D
started with the TV then AVR and so on. Probably the same thing is happening to bro froot that is why he is contemplating on which path to take ;) not to mention also pala yung palagi ko pagbabasa dito sa PDVD forum, naka apekto ng malaki sa gastos ko para sa hobby na ito ;D
@sir vtec3, SPOT ON! ka dyan. My audio gears has been with me for over 10yrs now, I initially invested on the PJ which I got a year ago, the construction and treatment of my room, then the furniture. So now back to the drawing board and hoping to get some suggestions to my confusion. I could have gotten the Bluray when it first came out, but after some waiting, now I am asking....did Bluray really win the war? I am thinking there is more to come and more confusion to follow. ;D
OT: btw got the chance to see the Bang Olufsen store at Greenbelt. Inquired about a satellite speaker with what...six 3" woofer, an 8"sub, and a Tuner/CD player standalone (heat sensored, when you are about to press the panel automatically opens) ito yung nasa NipTuck na gamit. Akala ko mahal na yung BOSE ko....when asked 319,000ph daw, may discount naman ng 10%. >:( :D :D
Oh...so which path will I take? Give me a few more days. Maybe joining the 2nd Shoot Out at sir streetsmart's HT might end this dilemna. ;D
Many thanks for all the feedback guys, keep it rollin'! ;)
Later....
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Hi froot ;D been contimplating myself on which route to take ;D
Hi ricky,I think we will end up in the same boat. ::) Let's see....
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Why not include htpc in your poll sir Loop?
edited the poll to others/HTPC. ;)
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Ok Frootloops, since you are now the owner of one of my 1st batch of Buffalos (binura mo na ba?), I'll share some of my opinions about MKV.
1. First, I prepared that Buffalo when I only had about 100 or so titles. It's now over 550 so imagine the potential savings. I'm not telling you to buy another HDD from me. I'm telling you that there are so much more contents available now compared to when I packed that Buffalo in Jan 2008...and the variety of high def contents available in the net is mind-blowing.
2. If you are a big fan of high def US and UK TV series, high def documentaries (National Geographic, Discovery Channel, History Channel, PBS Nova), not to mention high def porn, there is no better option than an HTPC and HD-bits.ro. If you have an NMT, use that exclusively for playback.
My wife is subscribed to the PLDT 999 plan that can only reach about 100Kb/sec max DL speed. Yet she manages (without complain) to enjoy all her favorite TV series in high def non-stop. Local cable PQ is no match to the visual quality of these downloadable contents. By the time they become available in BD, matagal nang natapos yung season. And some of the high TV series and documentaries you'd like to watch would probably not be released in BD at all.
3. Movies. In most cases, the 720p and 1080p MKV encodes become available weeks before the official release dates of the BD. In some cases, high def MKV encodes are available even though the titles are not even released (or will not be released yet) in BD or HD DVD.
4. I have connected my PC to a 32 inch HDTV CRT, a 37V HDTV Sharp and a 50V Panasonic. They all look high def enough (not certainly as "clean" as original discs, but certainly much better than passable) considering the video files are only about 1/4 - 1/6 the original. Even 720p encodes look visually more stunning than any original DVD in my collection (well my Sony DVD players are not really that highly rated as upscalers). PJ, I dont have so I dont know.
5. Catalogue films - no matter how great some of them are, they are never as "tasty" as the first time you watched them on DVD, unless you've totally forgotten the story already. I have no idea when I'll watch the high def versions of LOTR, Matrix, Star Wars, Back To The Future again. The motivation is simply not there. Even for downloads, I get catalogue titles just for the sake of having one in my drives and for those who specifically request, but personally, I tend to prioritize watching new releases as time to sit down in the living room is limited at nights only. As for new releases, some of them really really s*ck like that recent scam, and not worth keeping in my own world. But at least, the MKV encode is available for me to have a taste-test instead of wasting money buying the disk and regretting the purchase later.
Seeing that you've got enough budget to get 2 different systems, I'd follow the Munskie path. Selective buying of originals that you would really want to bring to the grave; MKV for the rest (I still prefer an HTPC but PCH or any NMT should be fine).
I hope I just made your day happier. ;D
PS.
I am more than willing to pay for downloadable contents if such kind of legitimate service (Apple TV, Xbox Live, etc.) is available in the country where Im living right now. Unfortunately it's not, and video rental shops in Tokyo are not offering any BD films for rent yet.
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Ok Frootloops, since you are now the owner of one of my 1st batch of Buffalos (binura mo na ba?), I'll share some of my opinions about MKV.
1. First, I prepared that Buffalo when I only had about 100 or so titles. It's now over 550 so imagine the potential savings. I'm not telling you to buy another HDD from me. I'm telling you that there are so much more contents available now compared to when I packed that Buffalo in Jan 2008...and the variety of high def contents available in the net is mind-blowing.
2. If you are a big fan of high def US and UK TV series, high def documentaries (National Geographic, Discovery Channel, History Channel, PBS Nova), not to mention high def porn, there is no better option than an HTPC and HD-bits.ro. If you have an NMT, use that exclusively for playback.
My wife is subscribed to the PLDT 999 plan that can only reach about 100Kb/sec max DL speed. Yet she manages (without complain) to enjoy all her favorite TV series in high def non-stop. Local cable PQ is no match to the visual quality of these downloadable contents. By the time they become available in BD, matagal nang natapos yung season. And some of the high TV series and documentaries you'd like to watch would probably not be released in BD at all.
3. Movies. In most cases, the 720p and 1080p MKV encodes become available weeks before the official release dates of the BD. In some cases, high def MKV encodes are available even though the titles are not even released (or will not be released yet) in BD or HD DVD.
4. I have connected my PC to a 32 inch HDTV CRT, a 37V HDTV Sharp and a 50V Panasonic. They all look high def enough (not certainly as "clean" as original discs, but certainly much better than passable) considering the video files are only about 1/4 - 1/6 the original. Even 720p encodes look visually more stunning than any original DVD in my collection (well my Sony DVD players are not really that highly rated as upscalers). PJ, I dont have so I dont know.
5. Catalogue films - no matter how great some of them are, they are never as "tasty" as the first time you watched them on DVD, unless you've totally forgotten the story already. I have no idea when I'll watch the high def versions of LOTR, Matrix, Star Wars, Back To The Future again. The motivation is simply not there. Even for downloads, I get catalogue titles just for the sake of having one in my drives and for those who specifically request, but personally, I tend to prioritize watching new releases as time to sit down in the living room is limited at nights only. As for new releases, some of them really really s*ck like that recent scam, and not worth keeping in my own world. But at least, the MKV encode is available for me to have a taste-test instead of wasting money buying the disk and regretting the purchase later.
Seeing that you've got enough budget to get 2 different systems, I'd follow the Munskie path. Selective buying of originals that you would really want to bring to the grave; MKV for the rest (I still prefer an HTPC but PCH or any NMT should be fine).
I hope I just made your day happier. ;D
PS.
I am more than willing to pay for downloadable contents if such kind of legitimate service (Apple TV, Xbox Live, etc.) is available in the country where Im living right now. Unfortunately it's not, and video rental shops in Tokyo are not offering any BD films for rent yet.
Couldnt agree more. I do want to expound more on the advantages of an HTPC/MKV/PCH/Torrents, but I would rather not. ;)
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Initially, was really so into BD. But now with the emergence of the HD rips and torrent sites... add to this the staggering cost difference between the disc and soft files.. then it seems like HDDs may have the inner track. Unless discs really slash away (like what DVDs are doing now), seems like a bleak horizon IMO. :-\
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how can you compare something that is free and something you buy hehehe (HD rips from torrents vs BD), take note bat naging 9GB nalang ang 50GB na BD title? of course nawala ang lossless audio track diyan hehe
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Sir Froot! ;D Looks like we've narrowed down our options to just 2 units:
Oppo and PCH ;D ;D ;D
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Brader Froot, I came across this machine when surfing around...check it out! It's very interesting! ::)
Link: http://www.egreat.nl
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how can you compare something that is free and something you buy hehehe (HD rips from torrents vs BD),
You shouldn't. Just enjoy both if you have them both.
take note bat naging 9GB nalang ang 50GB na BD title? of course nawala ang lossless audio track diyan hehe
I dont have an AVR than can decode any kind of HD audio yet so I definitely do not know what Im missing. Even then, I can appreciate that the experience would have been better particularly for some BDs like that of John Mayer's concert in LA or Iron Man. But for titles like Forgetting Sarah Marshall for instance, I would rather have more pixels on Mila Kunis than lossless sound.
BTW, the compression is mostly on the video stream. Nevertheless, I dont think you can make the same analogy as that of "VHS to film transfer" or "DVD to VCD or DivX", unless perhaps if your HDTV is 65" or bigger. But then even original BDs look more DVD than high def on 103" plasma.
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Ok Frootloops, since you are now the owner of one of my 1st batch of Buffalos (binura mo na ba?), I'll share some of my opinions about MKV.
1. First, I prepared that Buffalo when I only had about 100 or so titles. It's now over 550 so imagine the potential savings. I'm not telling you to buy another HDD from me. I'm telling you that there are so much more contents available now compared to when I packed that Buffalo in Jan 2008...and the variety of high def contents available in the net is mind-blowing.
2. If you are a big fan of high def US and UK TV series, high def documentaries (National Geographic, Discovery Channel, History Channel, PBS Nova), not to mention high def porn, there is no better option than an HTPC and HD-bits.ro. If you have an NMT, use that exclusively for playback.
My wife is subscribed to the PLDT 999 plan that can only reach about 100Kb/sec max DL speed. Yet she manages (without complain) to enjoy all her favorite TV series in high def non-stop. Local cable PQ is no match to the visual quality of these downloadable contents. By the time they become available in BD, matagal nang natapos yung season. And some of the high TV series and documentaries you'd like to watch would probably not be released in BD at all.
3. Movies. In most cases, the 720p and 1080p MKV encodes become available weeks before the official release dates of the BD. In some cases, high def MKV encodes are available even though the titles are not even released (or will not be released yet) in BD or HD DVD.
4. I have connected my PC to a 32 inch HDTV CRT, a 37V HDTV Sharp and a 50V Panasonic. They all look high def enough (not certainly as "clean" as original discs, but certainly much better than passable) considering the video files are only about 1/4 - 1/6 the original. Even 720p encodes look visually more stunning than any original DVD in my collection (well my Sony DVD players are not really that highly rated as upscalers). PJ, I dont have so I dont know.
5. Catalogue films - no matter how great some of them are, they are never as "tasty" as the first time you watched them on DVD, unless you've totally forgotten the story already. I have no idea when I'll watch the high def versions of LOTR, Matrix, Star Wars, Back To The Future again. The motivation is simply not there. Even for downloads, I get catalogue titles just for the sake of having one in my drives and for those who specifically request, but personally, I tend to prioritize watching new releases as time to sit down in the living room is limited at nights only. As for new releases, some of them really really s*ck like that recent scam, and not worth keeping in my own world. But at least, the MKV encode is available for me to have a taste-test instead of wasting money buying the disk and regretting the purchase later.
Seeing that you've got enough budget to get 2 different systems, I'd follow the Munskie path. Selective buying of originals that you would really want to bring to the grave; MKV for the rest (I still prefer an HTPC but PCH or any NMT should be fine).
I hope I just made your day happier. ;D
PS.
I am more than willing to pay for downloadable contents if such kind of legitimate service (Apple TV, Xbox Live, etc.) is available in the country where Im living right now. Unfortunately it's not, and video rental shops in Tokyo are not offering any BD films for rent yet.
Sir pati ako nako-convinve mo na. I just hope lang na free upload for life so Ill just bring my storage sa shop then after a while puno na ng files,magic :D ;D Does seller of popcorn hour offer this? si egreat kasi oo ::)
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;D ;D ;D I just hope you dont end up being a scammer ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Hoy vic12 buhay ka pa? :D
;D ;D hindi naman siguro ;D ;D nagamit din ba yung name ko ng scammer ?
Sir pati ako nako-convinve mo na. I just hope lang na free upload for life so Ill just bring my storage sa shop then after a while puno na ng files,magic :D ;D Does seller of popcorn hour offer this? si egreat kasi oo ::)
ako din malapit ng ma convince na kumuha na ng PCH ;D malalaman natin ito after the 27th of this month ;)
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;D ;D hindi naman siguro ;D ;D nagamit din ba yung name ko ng scammer ?
ako din malapit ng ma convince na kumuha na ng PCH ;D malalaman natin ito after the 27th of this month ;)
Ha ha ha. Congrats pare ;) Basta kung sino mag offer ng free updating ng downloads will get my vote ::) ;) :D
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Ha ha ha. Congrats pare ;) Basta kung sino mag offer ng free updating ng downloads will get my vote ::) ;) :D
i think meet ups and ebs then file swapping will a norm when the time comes. ;D
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ako din malapit ng ma convince na kumuha na ng PCH ;D malalaman natin ito after the 27th of this month ;)
im sure bro maiinlove ka sa PCH :)
bro Frootloops get the oppo dvd upscaler 980 & PCH solve ka na dun promise ;D
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bro Frootloops get the oppo dvd upscaler 980 & PCH solve ka na dun promise ;D
I think that combination produces Virtual High Def and Pseudo High Def. Di ba bitin?
I think the combination of Genuine High Def and Quasi High Def cover both extremes of the spectrum better. So my vote goes to PS3/BD Player and HTPC/NMT.
Sabi ng Sony TV Commercial sa Japan (literal translation) "Meron ka ngang HDTV pero di ka naman nanonood ng high def - sayang!"
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I think that combination produces Virtual High Def and Pseudo High Def. Di ba bitin?
I think the combination of Genuine High Def and Quasi High Def cover both extremes of the spectrum better. So my vote goes to PS3/BD Player and HTPC/NMT.
Sabi ng Sony TV Commercial sa Japan (literal translation) "Meron ka ngang HDTV pero di ka naman nanonood ng high def - sayang!"
bro kamusta ang dami mo na pala hi def ;D
i recommend oppo kay bro frootlops kasi dami nya sd collection.
some hd rips vs original dvds are marginal in terms of picture quality, but some sd dvd might be more detailed in sound quality especially those dts-es soundtrack :)
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I think that combination produces Virtual High Def and Pseudo High Def. Di ba bitin?
I think the combination of Genuine High Def and Quasi High Def cover both extremes of the spectrum better. So my vote goes to PS3/BD Player and HTPC/NMT.
Kayang kaya naman ni Donnel to...kahit isabay mo pa oppo for his SD DVDs. ;) Di ba donnel?
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bro kamusta ang dami mo na pala hi def ;D
i recommend oppo kay bro frootlops kasi dami nya sd collection.
some hd rips vs original dvds are marginal in terms of picture quality, but some sd dvd might be more detailed in sound quality especially those dts-es soundtrack :)
Well kanya kanya lang priorities yan and we have to respect each others' choices. But if my budget is limited, I would prioritize giving myself the chance to watch real high def stuff using true high def technologies rather than enhance the playback quality of my DVD collection, regardless of how big my DVD collection is, regardless of how good the upscaler is. For one thing, I cannot even imagine myself re-watching many of my old DVDs due to limited time to chill out in the house, and the fact the new BD releases are regularly coming out, not to mention the start of new seasons of our favorite TV series in high def and a steady barrage of high def documentaries. Kulang na kulang ang oras.
DTS is becoming a standard among high def encoders due to demand of the community. Even those high def titles released 2006 or 2007 are getting re-encoded with DTS sound stream.
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Yep, iba pa din kung meron ka nung 3 kaso . . . gastus!
PS3 is the most affordable BD player you can watch new releases agad pero nakakahinayang naman gamiting upscaler dahil sa BDL failure 5K yata bagong lens at region locked pa . . . kaya bili ka ng Oppo para sa dvds . . . meron ka na oppo but you might find it bitin dahil di naman talaga hi-def at ma-realize mo yan kasi 90" screen gamit mo . . . bili ka ngayon ng PCH for watching catalogue and not-so good titles as well as great movies that are not avail. in blu-ray yet like Star wars, LOTR, etc. having PCH might minimize your BD purchases bili na lang ng 4 to 5/5 star movies for your BD collection.
Problema kasi maraming namamahalan sa blu-ray disc at hindi lahat ng movies ay available kaya ang PCH meron advantage . . . at kaya hayan dumami ang options.
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Question really has a simple answer.
You want High Definition, then don't settle for anything less, Blu Ray is still the Gold standard, anything else is an alternative. ;) ;)
The only one that can give you high definition aside from the real deal (right now is only Blu Ray) is the HTPC,mainly for the reason that you can always upgrade your Video Card and also install a Blu Disc capable reader/writer. ;)
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Sabi ng Sony TV Commercial sa Japan (literal translation) "Meron ka ngang HDTV pero di ka naman nanonood ng high def - sayang!"
Ouch, para na rin nilang sinabi na "Ang ganda nga ng system mo pero puro pirated naman binibili mong pelikula at musika, worst is hindi ka na bumibili kasi kinukuha mo na lang ng free sa net" :P
For me practicality lang talaga and personal satisfaction ang dapat iconsider, ay pati pala budet ;D ;D ;D Since wala ako budget,sd pa din for now :D Lokong mga HAPON yan >:( :D
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Ouch, para na rin nilang sinabi na "Ang ganda nga ng system mo pero puro pirated naman binibili mong pelikula at musika, worst is hindi ka na bumibili kasi kinukuha mo na lang ng free sa net" :P
For me practicality lang talaga and personal satisfaction ang dapat iconsider, ay pati pala budet ;D ;D ;D Since wala ako budget,sd pa din for now :D Lokong mga HAPON yan >:( :D
These were what Sony meant.
1. Buy a BD player and/or a BD recorder for your favorite high def TV shows.
2. Buy a high def videocam
2. Why are you using your HDTV to watch only SD?
Well if they were trying to look down at those people watching downloadable stuff (I dont think so), then Sony must not be aware of the many men in suit watching all sorts of video r*ps using their PSPs and their cellphones in the trains. Katabi ko was watching House Season 4 last night and I told him Season 5 just started. He he he. I think kung legal lang ang MKVs, they would even advertise that you can watch MKVs on your fine HDTVs.. So Im cool with that advertisement ;D ;D ;D
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and their sony ps3 plays mkv too. ;D
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and their sony ps3 plays mkv too. ;D
Does it? Diba it has to be converted to VOB first?
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Ok Frootloops, since you are now the owner of one of my 1st batch of Buffalos (binura mo na ba?), I'll share some of my opinions about MKV.
@ clondalkin, many thanks for the very detailed information. Yes, the PCH is now on top of my list. Sayo pala galing yung Buffalo nakuha ko, the movies are still intact, watched some of it, especially the Discovery specials at my PC and boy oh boy! it was really crystal clear. The more itch I feel whenever I think of it watching at my HT.
i think meet ups and ebs then file swapping will a norm when the time comes. ;D
Mas okay ito kung ganun, basta PM/SMS lang ang communication at ng hindi tayo ma-hot seat dito. ;D
Question really has a simple answer.
You want High Definition, then don't settle for anything less, Blu Ray is still the Gold standard, anything else is an alternative. ;) ;)
The only one that can give you high definition aside from the real deal (right now is only Blu Ray) is the HTPC,mainly for the reason that you can always upgrade your Video Card and also install a Blu Disc capable reader/writer. ;)
Hello dear cousin,
I was gearing at first for a PS3 and PCH, unfortunately my PJ and amp doesn't have an HDMI, my present connection is VGA-Component, and the component cable of the PS3 is different, so malamang masayang yung pina DIY ko na 3 meters na compo, unless I upgrade my current CRT to a Plasma (lalo na gumulo..) para dun ko magamit. Now what I am thinking is to wether to just upgrade my PC or get a PCH. I can connect my PJ to my PC right? Okay nga sana kung PS3 and PCH, you get 4 points (BD,Upscaler,games?,PCH), unlike the OPPO and PCH, 2 points lang (Upscale & PCH). No intention of replacing my Optoma PJ for now,sasaya na siguro ako sa 720p nya.
Kayang kaya naman ni Donnel to...kahit isabay mo pa oppo for his SD DVDs. ;) Di ba donnel?
Ilan na ba nabenta bag ni misis? ::) ;D
bro Frootloops get the oppo dvd upscaler 980 & PCH solve ka na dun promise ;D
Eh mukhang dito na nga ako babagsak....esep esep pa. ;D Hirap din kasi pag impulsive ka, and it happened to me a lot of times, bili dito bili doon, tapos hindi naman pala kailangan lahat. Ganda kung all (3) di ba?
Q. What will be the big difference of a PS3 to PCH/NMT in terms of displaying hi-def PQ (720p)? I know that PS3 is orig or should I say the real hi-def, the PCH is downloaded, compressed? DTS/DD only? (I can live with that). But when you watch it over your flats or PJ, will you easily distinguish which is which?
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bro yung ps3 hindi pwedeng pang dvd marathon for upscaling player . magiging less ang lifespan ng ps3 lens
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bro yung ps3 hindi pwedeng pang dvd marathon for upscaling player . magiging less ang lifespan ng ps3 lens
Brader Sanmig...thanks for this very important information. ;D You just confirmed that I should "not" get a PS3. ;D I am so addicted to films that more often than not, I watch about 2 to 3 titles a day...much more on the weekends!!! :P So given this, the PS3 will not work for me! ;)
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anybody have any idea how to decode dolby true hd audio? media player classic, VLC or WMP cant seem to play the english audio... ??? ???
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I was able to make it work through cyberlink powerdvd though I have doubts of its fidelity as apparently it downsamples everything upon conversion. Only tried it with the Nine Inch Nails hd dvd...yes hd dvd ;D
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I would prioritize giving myself the chance to watch real high def stuff using true high def technologies
Are you referring to BD or DL's here?
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Brader Sanmig...thanks for this very important information. ;D You just confirmed that I should "not" get a PS3. ;D I am so addicted to films that more often than not, I watch about 2 to 3 titles a day...much more on the weekends!!! :P So given this, the PS3 will not work for me! ;)
bro i just get my ps3 for gaming & bluray movies.
but honestly speaking since the bluray software is way expensive & order pa sa u.s nag low profile muna tayo.
im watching 1 movie everyday so kung 1k yung bluray for 7 weeks you will spend 7k :o thats may sallary na ;D so honestly hindi ko kaya suportahan
so may combination pa din ng sddvd & mas affordable pa yung sddvd kasi dami sale ngayon.
kaya advisable pa din may upscaling player for your tons of collection :) oppo is a very good upscaling player.
now for you to experience your favorite movies & blockbuster hit in hi def, andyan ang PCH ;)
kaya for the meantime since wala pa dito sa atin yung bluray software, combination of sddvd, bluray from the states & PCH;) & jack sparrow DVD9
if purchase ka naman ng bluray,pipiliin mo din yung bluray na kukunin mo kasi yung ibang pagka transfer hindi ganun ka ganda ang review :(
pag available na dito satin ang bluray software & less 700 masarap na ulit mag collect ;D everybody happy
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bro i just get my ps3 for gaming & bluray movies.
but honestly speaking since the bluray software is way expensive & order pa sa u.s nag low profile muna tayo.
im watching 1 movie everyday so kung 1k yung bluray for 7 weeks you will spend 7k :o thats may sallary na ;D so honestly hindi ko kaya suportahan
so may combination pa din ng sddvd & mas affordable pa yung sddvd kasi dami sale ngayon.
kaya advisable pa din may upscaling player for your tons of collection :) oppo is a very good upscaling player.
now for you to experience your favorite movies & blockbuster hit in hi def, andyan ang PCH ;)
kaya for the meantime since wala pa dito sa atin yung bluray software, combination of sddvd, bluray from the states & PCH;) & jack sparrow DVD9
if purchase ka naman ng bluray,pipiliin mo din yung bluray na kukunin mo kasi yung ibang pagka transfer hindi ganun ka ganda ang review :(
pag available na dito satin ang bluray software & less 700 masarap na ulit mag collect ;D everybody happy
I totally agree with you brader! ;) I will not rush myself into getting a Blu-ray player as I feel, there is still more to come. The format is still, somehow new and we can expect better hi-tech Blu-ray players to come. Until that time, Oppo na muna and PCH! :P
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I totally agree with you brader! ;) I will not rush myself into getting a Blu-ray player as I feel, there is still more to come. The format is still, somehow new and we can expect better hi-tech Blu-ray players to come. Until that time, Oppo na muna and PCH! :P
brader my suggestion
1st PCH
2nd Oppo
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brader my suggestion
1st PCH
2nd Oppo
Whoa! ??? I was planning to get the Oppo first...why do you recommend the PCH to be my first purchase? :)
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I think the third choice should be changed from PCH into Network Media Player para mas generic so as to include Egreat, Elektron, HDX, among others.
I decided to buy egreat for convenience and as an energy saver. DVDs are going to be a thing in the past.. just like VCD, VHS and Betamax. I don't/seldom watch SD movies anymore. Besides there are so many new movies in HD that I prefer to watch them than rewatch my SD collection. Besides, the picture quality in HD is far superior than SD. The audio quality is at par (Dolby Digital and DTS). I'll buy excellent Bluray titles for collection such as Iron Man, Dark Knight, Godfather, LOTR, Indiana Jones (when available).
My suggestion:
1. Network Media Player or HTPC (PCs can upscale DVDs)
2. PS3 or other bluray player
3. Oppo or other DVD player
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Whoa! ??? I was planning to get the Oppo first...why do you recommend the PCH to be my first purchase? :)
Depende sa priorites siguro bro, kasi ako the reason I posted this poll is to experience HD given my existing gears. Mine is also PCH first, then OPPO (maybe) next. Based on the sample HD's I got from my HDD.
I also would like to get PS3 why not, pero madaming balakid dahil nga sa nabanggit ko na existing gears ko. If by chance I be able to buy a Plasma soon, then the PS3 might be the next step, sarap din kasi maglaro minsan, especially the MGS, had the chance to own the PS1 & 2 kasi. ;)
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And we're on the transition period already fr. SD to hi-def. So, IMO buying a dvd upscaler doesn't make a drastic change in your setup esp. if you have an HD capable display.
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Q. What will be the big difference of a PS3 to PCH/NMT in terms of displaying hi-def PQ (720p)? I know that PS3 is orig or should I say the real hi-def, the PCH is downloaded, compressed? DTS/DD only? (I can live with that). But when you watch it over your flats or PJ, will you easily distinguish which is which?
This is a good question froot, I think those guys here who have a 720p native PJ, PCH, PS3, a particular movie title in both BD(1080p) and 720p encoded MKV can answer this. Anyone?
Sagutin ko sana kaso wala pa yung PCH ko eh. ;D Tho' I did a similar test on my xbox360 using a combo disc. 3 tests: upscaled dvd, 720p hd dvd & 1080i upscaled hd dvd.
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Depende sa priorites siguro bro, kasi ako the reason I posted this poll is to experience HD given my existing gears. Mine is also PCH first, then OPPO (maybe) next. Based on the sample HD's I got from my HDD.
I also would like to get PS3 why not, pero madaming balakid dahil nga sa nabanggit ko na existing gears ko. If by chance I be able to buy a Plasma soon, then the PS3 might be the next step, sarap din kasi maglaro minsan, especially the MGS, had the chance to own the PS1 & 2 kasi. ;)
Know what brader, you have a point. ;) Maybe, I should go the same way...PCH muna, tutal may dvd player pa naman ako eh for viewing dvd's. :) At least as PCH, makakaexperience na ako ng high def. ;D
We have the same case here Froot. My gears are old na. 2001 model yung AVR ko...as I can recall, and my speakers were purchased 2003. If I go Blu or PS3, this will only encourage me to upgrade to a better AVR. And I certainly know for a fact, that I do not have the budget for a full upgrade. :(
Question: If you will get the PCH first, what capacity will you go for, 500GB or 1TB? ::)
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And we're on the transition period already fr. SD to hi-def. So, IMO buying a dvd upscaler doesn't make a drastic change in your setup esp. if you have an HD capable display.
Not really bro, I would still patronize SD's, most especially the LE's,CE's,Giftsets etc (baliw ako dito eh). The reason I posted PCH as my priority is having the HDD I got full of HD's, sa PC ko pa lang ang linaw na talaga, what more sa 720p ko na PJ. But who know's, you maybe right, after I got the PCH, that might be the transition period for me. ;)
My wifey is already having a gut feeling of my plan since he often see's me selling lotsa DVD's lately, and will disposing more in the coming days. Oh di ba?....parang transition na nga. ;D Ang hirap mag umpisa ulit pag nakapag umpisa ka na. Parang lahat gustong mag back to zero. :-\
Yup, that question (hopefully) be my final question here. Kasi maganda rin yung napapag-usapan. I've seen some who bought upscalers but later sold it, not satisfied daw. Kasi if you were to ask me, and I've told you this before, I'm happy with my current video set-up, some DVD's really give excellent PQ, just the beauty of having a 90" screen in front of you makes me grin already. :P
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Know what brader, you have a point. ;) Maybe, I should go the same way...PCH muna, tutal may dvd player pa naman ako eh for viewing dvd's. :) At least as PCH, makakaexperience na ako ng high def. ;D
We have the same case here Froot. My gears are old na. 2001 model yung AVR ko...as I can recall, and my speakers were purchased 2003. If I go Blu or PS3, this will only encourage me to upgrade to a better AVR. And I certainly know for a fact, that I do not have the budget for a full upgrade. :(
Question: If you will get the PCH first, what capacity will you go for, 500GB or 1TB? ::)
Ikaw nga naka LCD ka na, so pwedeng pwede ka na mag full HD. :P What's the size of your LCD? Kasi if it is 42" and lower, you may not be able to get what you are looking for in an upscaler. IOW, as some members say here, it is not a night and day difference. (oh di ba...lalong nakagulo ;D ).
Already got 500gb, eh nung pinanood ko pa lang yung Victoria Secret Fashion Show nanginig na ako eh.... :o 8)
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Ikaw nga naka LCD ka na, so pwedeng pwede ka na mag full HD. :P What's the size of your LCD? Kasi if it is 42" and lower, you may not be able to get what you are looking for in an upscaler. IOW, as some members say here, it is not a night and day difference. (oh di ba...lalong nakagulo ;D ).
Simpleng tao lang tayo brader... :P 32 inch lang po LCD ko. Maybe there isn't much difference in PQ with an upscaling dvd player. I would believe that there is a significant difference with the PCH... ::)
Already got 500gb, eh nung pinanood ko pa lang yung Victoria Secret Fashion Show nanginig na ako eh.... :o 8)
Whoa! :o So may PCH ka na? :o When did you get it bro? :)
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Already got 500gb, eh nung pinanood ko pa lang yung Victoria Secret Fashion Show nanginig na ako eh.... :o 8)
;D
2. If you are a big fan of high def US and UK TV series, high def documentaries (National Geographic, Discovery Channel, History Channel, PBS Nova), not to mention high def porn,
Eh papaano pa sir kung eto pa mapanood nyo? ;D :D
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;D
Eh papaano pa sir kung eto pa mapanood nyo? ;D :D
;D :D ;D :D Baka mawalan na ng oras si Froot sa pDvd! ;D :D ;D :D
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Good morning brothers stick and froot :D, Since you still have a working dvd player pa naman then its better and more practical to invest first in an mkv player(nmt) or bdp/ps3. The reason why I got my oppo lang is bec I really need a dvd player(hindi dahil gusto ko ng upscaler). Kung Hindi nasira yung old trusted pioneer dvdp ko malamang nmt ang kinuha ko ;D Kaya nga it all depends on your needs. As for the Bd players medyo mahal pa yung titles and meron next best alternative pa naman which is the nmt. Wink Ngayon ang 15t peso question is anong nmt player ang kukunin nyo? Grin Like i SAID before, kung need nyo talaga ng dvdp then oppo na kunin nyo kasi worth the price talaga pero kung pagkakagastusan lang need nyo eh di try the nmt muna ;D
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Good morning brothers stick and froot :D, Since you still have a working dvd player pa naman then its better and more practical to invest first in an mkv player(nmt) or bdp/ps3. The reason why I got my oppo lang is bec I really need a dvd player(hindi dahil gusto ko ng upscaler). Kung Hindi nasira yung old trusted pioneer dvdp ko malamang nmt ang kinuha ko ;D Kaya nga it all depends on your needs. As for the Bd players medyo mahal pa yung titles and meron next best alternative pa naman which is the nmt. Wink Ngayon ang 15t peso question is anong nmt player ang kukunin nyo? Grin Like i SAID before, kung need nyo talaga ng dvdp then oppo na kunin nyo kasi worth the price talaga pero kung pagkakagastusan lang need nyo eh di try the nmt muna ;D
Brader Ricky...good morning po! ;D Very good advice...PCH na nga ang mauuna para maka experience na ng high def films. ;D
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This is a good question froot, I think those guys here who have a 720p native PJ, PCH, PS3, a particular movie title in both BD(1080p) and 720p encoded MKV can answer this. Anyone?
Sagutin ko sana kaso wala pa yung PCH ko eh. ;D Tho' I did a similar test on my xbox360 using a combo disc. 3 tests: upscaled dvd, 720p hd dvd & 1080i upscaled hd dvd.
i have a pch, hddvd and dv600, my lcd is only a 37", playing same material on all three yielded a quality index of:
hda3 - 95%
pch - 90%
dv600 - 80%
but when viewing animated stuff like cars and shrek, the difference of the three is +/- 2% very little talaga ang pagkakaiba. btw, my lcd is 768 native so my hda3, pch and dv600 are all set to 720p.
now, my lcd is small, what will happen when viewed in a 90"-120" screen, based on my experience in sir mark's ht i would say hddvd and pch (although not same viewing material), my rating will be the same as the above. but its just me. ;D
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Simpleng tao lang tayo brader... :P 32 inch lang po LCD ko. Maybe there isn't much difference in PQ with an upscaling dvd player. I would believe that there is a significant difference with the PCH... ::)
Whoa! :o So may PCH ka na? :o When did you get it bro? :)
truth is sir stick, during the first shoot-out although talo and pioneer dv600 sa oppo 980 and the eventual winner oppo 983, the dv 600 perform pretty well. hirap discern which is which, very subtle lang nag difference. now with a 32" baka lalong hindi na makita ang pagkakaiba. my recommendation for you is get the pch, then get a cheaper upscaler for your dvd collection. so 15k for pch then 6k for an upscaler.
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Good morning brothers stick and froot :D, Since you still have a working dvd player pa naman then its better and more practical to invest first in an mkv player(nmt) or bdp/ps3. The reason why I got my oppo lang is bec I really need a dvd player(hindi dahil gusto ko ng upscaler). Kung Hindi nasira yung old trusted pioneer dvdp ko malamang nmt ang kinuha ko ;D Kaya nga it all depends on your needs. As for the Bd players medyo mahal pa yung titles and meron next best alternative pa naman which is the nmt. Wink Ngayon ang 15t peso question is anong nmt player ang kukunin nyo? Grin Like i SAID before, kung need nyo talaga ng dvdp then oppo na kunin nyo kasi worth the price talaga pero kung pagkakagastusan lang need nyo eh di try the nmt muna ;D
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if you like marathon movie watching then PS3 is not recommended. there is however an alternative Panasonic BD-30 selling at a little over than $250 sa Amazon. Yun nga lang R1 lang sa DVD ang puwede. Most of froots DVD naman is R1 diba ;)
ako yung binibili ko na BDs is mostly action movies which has very good reviews for PQ & SQ ;D
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truth is sir stick, during the first shoot-out although talo and pioneer dv600 sa oppo 980 and the eventual winner oppo 983, the dv 600 perform pretty well. hirap discern which is which, very subtle lang nag difference. now with a 32" baka lalong hindi na makita ang pagkakaiba. my recommendation for you is get the pch, then get a cheaper upscaler for your dvd collection. so 15k for pch then 6k for an upscaler.
Good morning Sir iiinaslao! ;D I would say, I'd still get the Oppo as my upscaling dvd player...coz, I read the thread on the Pio 610 and it's starting to look like the player is not too reliable at all. :( Regarding the PCH, sure na yan... :P
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Good morning Sir iiinaslao! ;D I would say, I'd still get the Oppo as my upscaling dvd player...coz, I read the thread on the Pio 610 and it's starting to look like the player is not too reliable at all. :( Regarding the PCH, sure na yan... :P
good to hear, its sad kung may issues ang 610, im using a 600 kasi, and its reliable naman. ;D
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truth is sir stick, during the first shoot-out although talo and pioneer dv600 sa oppo 980 and the eventual winner oppo 983, the dv 600 perform pretty well. hirap discern which is which, very subtle lang nag difference. now with a 32" baka lalong hindi na makita ang pagkakaiba. my recommendation for you is get the pch, then get a cheaper upscaler for your dvd collection. so 15k for pch then 6k for an upscaler.
Ya this is what I would do also (Stick, froot assure ko ma in love kayo sa pch if you attend the shootout) and Sir Marks audio, its mindblowing..Tulo laway ko sa Celin Dion concert in blu...At the end of this month there is news sony will lower the msrp of the Sony s350 to 299 ata. So possible na ata this player at 220 to 230 dollars or maybe even lower ;D..Don't you wish meron buy a player and 5 free discs ;D..Baka that will be their 4th quarter push. Kung meron ka extra budget I would also get this s350 or ps3 ;D..One time gastos nalang ;D..then do what Sir Munskie is doing na buying those great movies na type mo in Blu. Im also doing that na, I haven't bought anything since April-May hehe ;D, I haven't posted in Whats your Lastest HD purchase na for the longest time ;D ;D, more selective na ako, however I still don't have the pch and I'm just rewatching those movies on dvd nalang on my oppo 980 muna until these movies in blu get down to at least 15 dollars for me to justify double dip haha.
After a while nga its getting painful sa pocket ;D..By the end of the year I just see myself buying the following lang ;D, Shawshank redemption, Austin powers collection, the Godfather collection, Ironman, Ronin, JFK and maybe a couple more. Usually they will have some sale coming this holiday season (sana BOGO) so nice to add to your collection. To me worth it if its 10 to 15 dollars. ;D. Sana mag sale na amazon..Ganda din talaga collecting blu discs, its the best siempre with special features and everything, also nice looking sa rack mo if your a collector.
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I have owned different types of upscaling dvd players like Pioneer and Oppo. All I can say is - "480p will be always just be 480p no matter how you upscale it". This is why I decided PCH over Oppo 983. 720p rocks! ;)
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And since nasa transition na tayo to HD, my suggestion is to stop purchasing SD DVDs sa mga new releases. If you dont stop kasi, the more you pad your SD DVD collection, the more you have to justify using upscalers to continously enjoy the collection. I have stated this suggestion, coz there is already a new option to view your catalog movies into HD (via PCH/torrents).
May transition na rin sa movie collection. Depende rin kasi talaga sa enthusiast, kung gaano talaga ka persistent to plunge into the Highdef experience.
In my end, the minute I decided to embrace the HD format:
1. I stopped buying SD DVDs.
2. I sold my DVD collection to partially fund the HD investment.
3. Bought only worthy Blu-ray titles (good movie/great disc in terms of AQ/PQ)
The arrival of this NMTs/PCH hiked my enthusiasm even more. Now, all the movies I want, I can view them in 720p/1080p.....and that at the cost of hard disc space, PC use and broadband fee. ;)
Of course, as Ive stated before, andyan pa rin Blu-ray. Piling pili na nga lang. Theres still that part of me who wants to see my collection na meron physical optical disc. Buti na lang, maliit lang a ng rack ko, pero malaki naman hard disc space ko ;)
Suggestion lang po....
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Plus the fact that mkvs are for FREE, I find it ridiculous to spend a lot on an expensive upscaling dvd player. Besides you still have to spend more to have a good quality dvd. IMO
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2. I sold my DVD collection to partially fund the HD investment.
Suggestion lang po....
Give me a few more weeks to think about this. But I am definitely considering the matter. :o :-\
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Not really bro, I would still patronize SD's, most especially the LE's,CE's,Giftsets etc (baliw ako dito eh). The reason I posted PCH as my priority is having the HDD I got full of HD's, sa PC ko pa lang ang linaw na talaga, what more sa 720p ko na PJ. But who know's, you maybe right, after I got the PCH, that might be the transition period for me. ;)
My wifey is already having a gut feeling of my plan since he often see's me selling lotsa DVD's lately, and will disposing more in the coming days. Oh di ba?....parang transition na nga. ;D Ang hirap mag umpisa ulit pag nakapag umpisa ka na. Parang lahat gustong mag back to zero. :-\
Yup, that question (hopefully) be my final question here. Kasi maganda rin yung napapag-usapan. I've seen some who bought upscalers but later sold it, not satisfied daw. Kasi if you were to ask me, and I've told you this before, I'm happy with my current video set-up, some DVD's really give excellent PQ, just the beauty of having a 90" screen in front of you makes me grin already. :P
Aba aba . . . at nag-order na ;D
Congrats sa PCH bro!
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And since nasa transition na tayo to HD, my suggestion is to stop purchasing SD DVDs sa mga new releases. If you dont stop kasi, the more you pad your SD DVD collection, the more you have to justify using upscalers to continously enjoy the collection. I have stated this suggestion, coz there is already a new option to view your catalog movies into HD (via PCH/torrents).
May transition na rin sa movie collection. Depende rin kasi talaga sa enthusiast, kung gaano talaga ka persistent to plunge into the Highdef experience.
In my end, the minute I decided to embrace the HD format:
1. I stopped buying SD DVDs.
2. I sold my DVD collection to partially fund the HD investment.
3. Bought only worthy Blu-ray titles (good movie/great disc in terms of AQ/PQ)
The arrival of this NMTs/PCH hiked my enthusiasm even more. Now, all the movies I want, I can view them in 720p/1080p.....and that at the cost of hard disc space, PC use and broadband fee. ;)
Of course, as Ive stated before, andyan pa rin Blu-ray. Piling pili na nga lang. Theres still that part of me who wants to see my collection na meron physical optical disc. Buti na lang, maliit lang a ng rack ko, pero malaki naman hard disc space ko ;)
Suggestion lang po....
Pareho tayo ng thinking marvin . . . I really did stop buying dvds for quite some time now. But yung dvd collections ko parang ayaw ko na ibenta . . . P100 na lang yata ang resale value per disc ngayon. Gawin ko na lang diffuser sa HT rm.
Parang nung time ng vhs to dvd transition kahit marami ang for rent dati, madami pa din ang inamag na lang.
And I think many will jump in already to Hi-def due to the arrival of these NMTs . . . much more when the price gets more affordable.
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And since nasa transition na tayo to HD, my suggestion is to stop purchasing SD DVDs sa mga new releases. If you dont stop kasi, the more you pad your SD DVD collection, the more you have to justify using upscalers to continously enjoy the collection. I have stated this suggestion, coz there is already a new option to view your catalog movies into HD (via PCH/torrents).
May transition na rin sa movie collection. Depende rin kasi talaga sa enthusiast, kung gaano talaga ka persistent to plunge into the Highdef experience.
In my end, the minute I decided to embrace the HD format:
1. I stopped buying SD DVDs.
2. I sold my DVD collection to partially fund the HD investment.
3. Bought only worthy Blu-ray titles (good movie/great disc in terms of AQ/PQ)
The arrival of this NMTs/PCH hiked my enthusiasm even more. Now, all the movies I want, I can view them in 720p/1080p.....and that at the cost of hard disc space, PC use and broadband fee. ;)
Of course, as Ive stated before, andyan pa rin Blu-ray. Piling pili na nga lang. Theres still that part of me who wants to see my collection na meron physical optical disc. Buti na lang, maliit lang a ng rack ko, pero malaki naman hard disc space ko ;)
Suggestion lang po....
Plus the fact that mkvs are for FREE, I find it ridiculous to spend a lot on an expensive upscaling dvd player. Besides you still have to spend more to have a good quality dvd. IMO
I think dvd is here to stay for a long time and still the choice no matter what, there are just too many title selections. If the pch/torrents have all these movies that are available in dvds, and ready for download (hidef version) then I also say forget buying an upscaling player also, especially the expensive ones, just buy the pch. Waiting a lot of titles to come out in blu might take forever or one is not even sure it will come out on blu or what is blus future.
To me ok to buy the oppos, toshiba xde500 (some do like this) if one wants to buy a dvd player. Denon 3930, thats another story. I would buy a great dvd player especially if you have a big dvd library. At the prices of dvds right now its just senseless to sell them (just my opinion). Might as well just keep it. I don't have a pch and I dont know what titles are available in the torrents but if they have Ferris buellers day off, pretty in pink, Jaws, Back to the future series, Star wars series 1 to 6, Night at the roxbury, the good the bad and the ugly, Ruthless people, Down and out in beverly hills, Beverly hills cop, Two weeks notice etc. hehe, mga type ko itong movies..then Im almost totally convinced/sold na to go for downloading and get a pch. If majority of films are not yet in the torrents then Im still going for dvd. Anytime I want to watch these films I will just go to my rack, get it and put it in the player. I don't have to wait na. ;D..When dvds are phased out na then Oh well ;D..Enjoyed everything while it lasted and they will still work.
Regarding buying dvds pa or selling them to get lets say the bluray copies, sorry to me I don't see any benefit from this for the following reasons.
My reasons are:
1. Dvds are super cheap now. Times are different from couple years ago. You can get warners at 125 ata sa sale to lets say 199. I think the movie jumper hit 175 or 199. Bluray is 22 dollars. If you get these movies sa downloads yes ok yan. But lets say I have a copy of eraser. I bought it ata 375pesos with collateral ata (so it comes out to 187.50 pesos). I want to sell this to finance my Eraser bluray copy which is now 13.95 at amazon. Market value of my eraser dvd if I wanna sell is I think only down to 100 pesos, maybe 150. I also have lots of vivas that maybe I can sell for 100 to 150 pesos, I need like at least 4 dvd movies to finance my eraser bluray. With a hundred of my cheap dvds I can only get around 20 blurays for it (assuming I don't want to shell out any money) Iba ang usapan if your copies are region 1, collectors maybe, tin copies, limited edition, criterion, gift set etc. They have better value, but if I have those copies Im not wlling to sell them, thats just me tho..I have The rock Criterion, Im not selling it even if I have the blu version. Again thats just me. Another example is JFK, its coming out in blu and dvd I think a month from now. Dvd version is 29.99 and blu is 23 ata in amazon. I like the dvd version bec of the collectibles, features ( I think dvd has a feature wala sa bluray), I want to get both versions bec Im a fan of JFK and this movie hehe..So it gets me ???..
2. Not buying new releases anymore: I also can't justify this because lets take the sample of speed racer. They are selling it here ata at 550 pesos? The blu-ray copy is around 1200 pesos. Risky business 20th anniversary is 475, blu is 937 plus lets say 100 pesos shipping pa..Just a couple of these titles is already how much sa pockets natin versus the dvd copy. Again if we get these sa downloads then justifiable. Parang kasi double the price all the time versus dvd. Imagine maybe in 2 months nga speed racer will maybe be 299 to 375 nalang. In amazon its still 24 bucks. Prices are just too attractive here right now sa pinas for dvds. Eh kung mga jack sparrows pa ;D..
So to me dvd pa rin (worth to buy excellent player), or combination with downloads for the pch, Blu for those who can really afford the discs and just want the best pq and aq, special features etc.
This is just my opinion. :)
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actually with the pch or any other nmt, many people forget that it can play other files as well including divx xvid which is full of rips of tv shows and movies (dvd quality) from the torrents too. my take is:
really really good sci-fi / action movie = bluray or hddvd (for the old collectibles) purchase
other sci-fi / action movies = mkv download (4-6gb = 18-24hrs download time)
chick flick and comedies = divx/avi download (700mb 4-5hrs download time)
tv series = divx/avi download (400mb 1.5-2 hrs download time)
its been a while that i have purchase any sd dvds (origs or jack sparrow blewreys). as they say, "everythings on the net!" ;D ;D ;D
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I think dvd is here to stay for a long time and still the choice no matter what, there are just too many title selections. If the pch/torrents have all these movies that are available in dvds, and ready for download (hidef version) then I also say forget buying an upscaling player also, especially the expensive ones, just buy the pch. Waiting a lot of titles to come out in blu might take forever or one is not even sure it will come out on blu or what is blus future.
To me ok to buy the oppos, toshiba xde500 (some do like this) if one wants to buy a dvd player. Denon 3930, thats another story. I would buy a great dvd player especially if you have a big dvd library. At the prices of dvds right now its just senseless to sell them (just my opinion). Might as well just keep it. I don't have a pch and I dont know what titles are available in the torrents but if they have Ferris buellers day off, pretty in pink, Jaws, Back to the future series, Star wars series 1 to 6, Night at the roxbury, the good the bad and the ugly, Ruthless people, Down and out in beverly hills, Beverly hills cop, Two weeks notice etc. hehe, mga type ko itong movies..then Im almost totally convinced/sold na to go for downloading and get a pch. If majority of films are not yet in the torrents then Im still going for dvd. Anytime I want to watch these films I will just go to my rack, get it and put it in the player. I don't have to wait na. ;D..When dvds are phased out na then Oh well ;D..Enjoyed everything while it lasted and they will still work.
Regarding buying dvds pa or selling them to get lets say the bluray copies, sorry to me I don't see any benefit from this for the following reasons.
My reasons are:
1. Dvds are super cheap now. Times are different from couple years ago. You can get warners at 125 ata sa sale to lets say 199. I think the movie jumper hit 175 or 199. Bluray is 22 dollars. If you get these movies sa downloads yes ok yan. But lets say I have a copy of eraser. I bought it ata 375pesos with collateral ata (so it comes out to 187.50 pesos). I want to sell this to finance my Eraser bluray copy which is now 13.95 at amazon. Market value of my eraser dvd if I wanna sell is I think only down to 100 pesos, maybe 150. I also have lots of vivas that maybe I can sell for 100 to 150 pesos, I need like at least 4 dvd movies to finance my eraser bluray. With a hundred of my cheap dvds I can only get around 20 blurays for it (assuming I don't want to shell out any money) Iba ang usapan if your copies are region 1, collectors maybe, tin copies, limited edition, criterion, gift set etc. They have better value, but if I have those copies Im not wlling to sell them, thats just me tho..I have The rock Criterion, Im not selling it even if I have the blu version. Again thats just me. Another example is JFK, its coming out in blu and dvd I think a month from now. Dvd version is 29.99 and blu is 23 ata in amazon. I like the dvd version bec of the collectibles, features ( I think dvd has a feature wala sa bluray), I want to get both versions bec Im a fan of JFK and this movie hehe..So it gets me ???..
Yeah, I must admit. What I did two years ago wont be so advisable now. Back then, that was what Im thinking. I should sell fast before DVD prices drop down. I did. It was actually a hard choice back then, kasi lugi talaga pag nagbenta ng collection, but it was not so bad at all. I came off with a PS3 because of my DVD disposal plus some HD titles.
Yung natira na DVD sa akin kokonti na lang, so the part in me to buy an upscaling player is no longer prevalent, which is something I was also trying to avoid. Having a huge collection na diko maiwan iwan.
2. Not buying new releases anymore: I also can't justify this because lets take the sample of speed racer. They are selling it here ata at 550 pesos? The blu-ray copy is around 1200 pesos. Risky business 20th anniversary is 475, blu is 937 plus lets say 100 pesos shipping pa..Just a couple of these titles is already how much sa pockets natin versus the dvd copy. Again if we get these sa downloads then justifiable. Parang kasi double the price all the time versus dvd. Imagine maybe in 2 months nga speed racer will maybe be 299 to 375 nalang. In amazon its still 24 bucks. Prices are just too attractive here right now sa pinas for dvds. Eh kung mga jack sparrows pa ;D..
So to me dvd pa rin (worth to buy excellent player), or combination with downloads for the pch, Blu for those who can really afford the discs and just want the best pq and aq, special features etc.
This is just my opinion. :)
It was "no turning back decision for me". I contemplated back then, if I were to keep my collection (reaching 300) and still buy new releases, medyo mahihirapan ako to embrace highdef. I was just so engrossed with it that I really have no choice but to leave the DVD format.
Buti na lang I came to love the PCH. Even if new releases in DVD goes below the P500 barrier, di na ako nanghihinayang......sa torrents, patience lang in downloading...HD quality video pa.
THats why I posted this....
Depende rin kasi talaga sa enthusiast, kung gaano talaga ka persistent to plunge into the Highdef experience.
And in my case. It was a clear cut decision to embrace HD and leave the DVD format (and admittedly sinubukan rin yung mga jack sparrow BD copies, na iniwan na rin dahil sa PCH). ;D ;D
Kanya kanya strategy talaga...... ;)
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actually with the pch or any other nmt, many people forget that it can play other files as well including divx xvid which is full of rips of tv shows and movies (dvd quality) from the torrents too. my take is:
really really good sci-fi / action movie = bluray or hddvd (for the old collectibles) purchase
other sci-fi / action movies = mkv download (4-6gb = 18-24hrs download time)
chick flick and comedies = divx/avi download (700mb 4-5hrs download time)
tv series = divx/avi download (400mb 1.5-2 hrs download time)
its been a while that i have purchase any sd dvds (origs or jack sparrow blewreys). as they say, "everythings on the net!" ;D ;D ;D
Paano yung "Pron"?? HD quality ba dapat??? hehehehe....either its a good thing or a bad thing... ;D ;D
Seriously....good strategy to..... ;)
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actually with the pch or any other nmt, many people forget that it can play other files as well including divx xvid which is full of rips of tv shows and movies (dvd quality) from the torrents too. my take is:
really really good sci-fi / action movie = bluray or hddvd (for the old collectibles) purchase
other sci-fi / action movies = mkv download (4-6gb = 18-24hrs download time)
chick flick and comedies = divx/avi download (700mb 4-5hrs download time)
tv series = divx/avi download (400mb 1.5-2 hrs download time)
its been a while that i have purchase any sd dvds (origs or jack sparrow blewreys). as they say, "everythings on the net!" ;D ;D ;D
reming
hehe..ya I use to download also in these torrent sites. I usually download mostly tv series like cheers, remington steele etc. But the video quality is not that good. I dont know what im doing wrong. Divx nga or avi ata mga download ko. I also don't want to wait for the download, Mine is the 999 plan ;D.. It takes so long kasi ;D..Do you have the 2mb above plan, 2 to 3 thou a month? Man 400mb in 2 hrs is fast. I think before mine took couple of days for a 400mb >:(.Thats why I gave up on downloading..Some chick flick, comedies I like in hidef ;D
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@ Moks007, I think we are in the same boat. My plan to use HD is just an alternative. SD's will still be on my list. As I've said, I'm a sucker for LE's,CE's,Giftsets etc. My buying habit really declined for the past months, the only time I buy SD's (r3) now is when there is a sale. Minsan nga nakakainis pa, during the last Trinoma sale, I had to travel pa almost 30kms just reach the sale, bought a title for 275ph, kinabukasan 199ph na lang. >:( ganun ka mura na talaga ngayon. I'm running out of space na rin kasi for my DVD's, kaya had to think of something else, something more economical and convenient.
One more thing that I will be happy about is (hopefully) magkaron ng EB of some sort for file sharing, and I'm pretty sure sooner or later, baka meron na sa Greenhills ng downloads for a fee.
other sci-fi / action movies = mkv download (4-6gb = 18-24hrs download time)
Now this made me think twice. :-\
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Whoa! ??? I was planning to get the Oppo first...why do you recommend the PCH to be my first purchase? :)
ganda ng picture ng PCH :D
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Paano yung "Pron"?? HD quality ba dapat??? hehehehe....either its a good thing or a bad thing... ;D ;D
Seriously....good strategy to..... ;)
oo nga pala sir munskie, i forgot about that. pag may hd ang pron, i'll go hd, so far i have 6 in my library. ;D
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reming
hehe..ya I use to download also in these torrent sites. I usually download mostly tv series like cheers, remington steele etc. But the video quality is not that good. I dont know what im doing wrong. Divx nga or avi ata mga download ko. I also don't want to wait for the download, Mine is the 999 plan ;D.. It takes so long kasi ;D..Do you have the 2mb above plan, 2 to 3 thou a month? Man 400mb in 2 hrs is fast. I think before mine took couple of days for a 400mb >:(.Thats why I gave up on downloading..Some chick flick, comedies I like in hidef ;D
i have a 1mbps dsl (bayantel), reliable naman. i think for a dvd quality rip to be good in divx, it should atleast be 700 mb, there are sources that are smaller than that and i think its unwatchable, one think good about pch, it upscales too, not as good as the stand alone upscalers but it improves divx/avi files. kaya oks narin, tv series mga 300-400 mb per episode.
tingnan natin sa shootout 2 i'll bring some divx kung uubra sa taste nyo yung quality.
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Q. What will be the big difference of a PS3 to PCH/NMT in terms of displaying hi-def PQ (720p)? I know that PS3 is orig or should I say the real hi-def, the PCH is downloaded, compressed? DTS/DD only? (I can live with that). But when you watch it over your flats or PJ, will you easily distinguish which is which?
Natabunan na yung golden question ko. ;D
sir Munskie, care to comment since you have both? ;)
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One more thing that I will be happy about is (hopefully) magkaron ng EB of some sort for file sharing, and I'm pretty sure sooner or later, baka meron na sa Greenhills ng downloads for a fee.
Now this made me think twice. :-\
actually sir froot, meron na, will just tell you when we meet, i think alam ma na rin ito. charges are very reasonable. quality very good. :o
what i do narin, is just leave my computer to do the deed, at night, ika nga "while you were sleeping", so mga 8 hours din yon, so 2 to 3 nights isang movie. ;D
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Natabunan na yung golden question ko. ;D
sir Munskie, care to comment since you have both? ;)
Actually I havent compared a BD title to its MKV counterpart. But with my (I suppose) trained eye in two years of seeing highdef, I can say that 720p and 1080p MKVs really do look good (syempre depende pa rin sa title).
I have watched Ironman in 1080p MKV, and all I can say, there are scenes that are really tact sharp. :o :o :o Now Im trying to convince myself if I would still buy the Ironman BD......
Can I distinguish which is which?? Only a blind a/b test will tell. Which I havent really tried.
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actually sir froot, meron na, will just tell you when we meet, i think alam ma na rin ito. charges are very reasonable. quality very good. :o
Really? PM na lang please sir. ;)
Actually I havent compared a BD title to its MKV counterpart. But with my (I suppose) trained eye in two years of seeing highdef, I can say that 720p and 1080p MKVs really do look good (syempre depende pa rin sa title).
I have watched Ironman in 1080p MKV, and all I can say, there are scenes that are really tact sharp. :o :o :o Now Im trying to convince myself if I would still buy the Ironman BD......
Can I distinguish which is which?? Only a blind a/b test will tell. Which I havent really tried.
Thank you po. ;) I guess the only way for me to answer my own question is to audition it at my HT. ;D
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Shoot-out II will be a good opportunity to have an objective response to froot's dilemma. I have a BD copy of Batman Begins, 2 SD copies and a PCH version. We will do blind test of video on:
1. BD player, 1080p
2. PCH, upscaled to 1080p at the player
3. Oppo 980, upscaled to 1080p at the player
4. Pio 696, sending 480i to video processor and outputting 1080p
Iiinaslao is helping me do the set-up. We plan to have 3 different scenes of "Batman Begins." Maybe a bright scene, a dark scene and an action scene. Each person will give a grade per player per scene, and then we will get the average.
After this, we will do several BD movies, comparing Dolby TruHD or DTS-MA vs ordinary DD/DTS.
I think the shoot-out will be very interesting. ;D ;D
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Shoot-out II will be a good opportunity to have an objective response to froot's dilemma. I have a BD copy of Batman Begins, 2 SD copies and a PCH version. We will do blind test of video on:
1. BD player, 1080p
2. PCH, upscaled to 1080p at the player
3. Oppo 980, upscaled to 1080p at the player
4. Pio 696, sending 480i to video processor and outputting 1080p
Iiinaslao is helping me do the set-up. We plan to have 3 different scenes of "Batman Begins." Maybe a bright scene, a dark scene and an action scene. Each person will give a grade per player per scene, and then we will get the average.
After this, we will do several BD movies, comparing Dolby TruHD or DTS-MA vs ordinary DD/DTS.
I think the shoot-out will be very interesting. ;D ;D
ayos ito! ;D
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Shoot-out II will be a good opportunity to have an objective response to froot's dilemma. I have a BD copy of Batman Begins, 2 SD copies and a PCH version. We will do blind test of video on:
1. BD player, 1080p
2. PCH, upscaled to 1080p at the player
3. Oppo 980, upscaled to 1080p at the player
4. Pio 696, sending 480i to video processor and outputting 1080p
Iiinaslao is helping me do the set-up. We plan to have 3 different scenes of "Batman Begins." Maybe a bright scene, a dark scene and an action scene. Each person will give a grade per player per scene, and then we will get the average.
After this, we will do several BD movies, comparing Dolby TruHD or DTS-MA vs ordinary DD/DTS.
I think the shoot-out will be very interesting. ;D ;D
Can't wait na for this! I feel the shoot out will really be helpful in making me decide how to move forward. ;D
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Upscaling Players 4 (19%)
Blu-Ray 7 (33.3%)
NMT's 7 (33.3%)
others/HTPC 3 (14.3%)
I guess this poll will change after the 2nd Shoot-Out which happened today. Let's see.
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Upscaling Players 4 (19%)
Blu-Ray 7 (33.3%)
NMT's 7 (33.3%)
others/HTPC 3 (14.3%)
I guess this poll will change after the 2nd Shoot-Out which happened today. Let's see.
brader tahimik na tong thead ah ;D
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brader tahimik na tong thead ah ;D
Mismo mo brad. Mukhang nagulanta talaga ang lahat sa nagyari. ;D Sana makabili na kayo ni DTS-HD para ma try ko na sa bahay. ;)
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Mismo mo brad. Mukhang nagulanta talaga ang lahat sa nagyari. ;D Sana makabili na kayo ni DTS-HD para ma try ko na sa bahay. ;)
organize pa lang ng group buy si brader Esi,hopefully bukas may linaw na kung ilan kami.
sa sta rosa mafia mukahg wala pang kulam eh, busy sa mga tubo ;D
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Know what brader, you have a point. ;) Maybe, I should go the same way...PCH muna, tutal may dvd player pa naman ako eh for viewing dvd's. :) At least as PCH, makakaexperience na ako ng high def. ;D
We have the same case here Froot. My gears are old na. 2001 model yung AVR ko...as I can recall, and my speakers were purchased 2003. If I go Blu or PS3, this will only encourage me to upgrade to a better AVR. And I certainly know for a fact, that I do not have the budget for a full upgrade. :(
Question: If you will get the PCH first, what capacity will you go for, 500GB or 1TB? ::)
brader stickfighter sama ka sa group buy ?
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care to share the results of the shootout? :)
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care to share the results of the shootout? :)
andito (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=81472.msg875144#msg875144) po. click na lang. :)
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brader stickfighter sama ka sa group buy ?
bili na bili na bili na bili na!!!!
;D ;D ;D
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bili na bili na bili na bili na!!!!
;D ;D ;D
Bro PCH or Egreat? ??? :D
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dadami ang benta ng mga AV stores dahil sa shootout ;D huwag lang sana major overhaul ng gears masyado mahal yun ;)
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Bro PCH or Egreat? ??? :D
great -e pare ;D
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Bro PCH or Egreat? ??? :D
sir ricky,
i think mas mahal kasi ng kaunti yung egreat but it has better features than popcorn (harware wise) but the firmware is basically the same. kaya it performs the same in terms of playing the files. sa harware naman the main difference is may e-sata na ang connection ng egreat while usb lang ang popcorn, super bilis kasi file transfer ng e-sata. but question is do you need it. and i think the egreat has higher memory 512mb vs 256mb for popcorn, what this means is this helps in terms of stutter free playing of files. so i think egreat tops popcorn here. ;D
ako kasi i have a popcorn, and have stuttering issue early on and i thought its got to do with the encode of the mkv files and internal memory of popcorn which some says is too small. but after the august 2008 firmware release all the stuttering is gone, even with files that stutters before does not anymore. so question is does the higher amount of memory really needed. :)
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sir ricky,
i think mas mahal kasi ng kaunti yung egreat but it has better features than popcorn (harware wise) but the firmware is basically the same. kaya it performs the same in terms of playing the files. sa harware naman the main difference is may e-sata na ang connection ng egreat while usb lang ang popcorn, super bilis kasi file transfer ng e-sata. but question is do you need it. and i think the egreat has higher memory 512mb vs 256mb for popcorn, what this means is this helps in terms of stutter free playing of files. so i think egreat tops popcorn here. ;D
ako kasi i have a popcorn, and have stuttering issue early on and i thought its got to do with the encode of the mkv files and internal memory of popcorn which some says is too small. but after the august 2008 firmware release all the stuttering is gone, even with files that stutters before does not anymore. so question is does the higher amount of memory really needed. :)
Bro baka bago ako makabili eh 768 na memory ;D Thanks again
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Bro baka bago ako makabili eh 768 na memory ;D Thanks again
pag walang 1.5k ang difference between pch and egreat, get the egreat nalang, better tech is always good, future proofing din yan. ;D
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My PJ is only 480p native and 720p compatible. Does it matter if I get this NMT? Or preferrably 720p native dapat? TIA
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My PJ is only 480p native and 720p compatible. Does it matter if I get this NMT? Or preferrably 720p native dapat? TIA
Psst yung ae2000 on sale na pare para bagay na sa NMT to play downloaded files :o ;D ;D ;D
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My PJ is only 480p native and 720p compatible. Does it matter if I get this NMT? Or preferrably 720p native dapat? TIA
i think walang issue, since 720p compatible naman ang pj mo, pero as the saying goes, pinaka maganda is to test the pch sa pj mo sir froot.
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My PJ is only 480p native and 720p compatible. Does it matter if I get this NMT? Or preferrably 720p native dapat? TIA
I think I'd be a little bit worried (para may kumontra ;D). The NMT will output in either 720p, 1080p, pseudo-720p and quasi-1080p, but the PJ will have to downscale that to 480p. Will there be any PQ degradation?
Pero the 80-peso BeeDees in St Francis that play in regular DVD players are outputted at 480p anyways. :)
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I think I'd be a little bit worried (para may kumontra ;D). The NMT will output in either 720p, 1080p, pseudo-720p and quasi-1080p, but the PJ will have to downscale that to 480p. Will there be any PQ degradation?
Pero the 80-peso BeeDees in St Francis that play in regular DVD players are outputted at 480p anyways. :)
I agree. If the pj is 480p, it might not be worth it to get NMT.
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I agree. If the pj is 480p, it might not be worth it to get NMT.
Buti na lang!..... ;D Since my desktop is scheduled for an upgrade, then I might just settle for an HTPC.
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HTPC
my reasons:
1. you can buy a bluray ROM for 6k (or less) / combo drive (hddvd/bluray is under 10k)
2. with the right motherboard or video card you can output 1080p through HDMI
3. you can easily run HD files and SD files without any hiccup, given that you know how to use it .. ;D
4. you can easily play HD downloads (.mkv)
5. upgradeable ..
and ofcourse, me being familiar with the hardware .. its easy for me to tinker with it .. :)
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btw how much does NMT's costs?
i can only recommend getting these if its around 8k or something ... but definitely not over 13k .. :)
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Buti na lang!..... ;D Since my desktop is scheduled for an upgrade, then I might just settle for an HTPC.
Hi Frootloops. With an HTPC, how do you plan to watch? Through the PC monitor only?
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Hi Frootloops. With an HTPC, how do you plan to watch? Through the PC monitor only?
Yes, and also through my 42" plasma at my bedroom. Next na siguro for my projector, when the day comes that I upgrade.
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Yes, and also through my 42" plasma at my bedroom. Next na siguro for my projector, when the day comes that I upgrade.
Eh meron ka naman palang 42 plasma Bro hindi mo agad sinasabi ;D ;D ;D
Baka mas madali interface with NMT instead of HTPC in your case? I'm connecting my HTPC to the HDTVs using either DVI or the special HDTV out (with component video dongle) of my ATI 4850 card. Havent tried the ATI supplied DVI/HDMI adapter pero I think pareho lang. HTPC loyalist here!
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HTPC
my reasons:
1. you can buy a bluray ROM for 6k (or less) / combo drive (hddvd/bluray is under 10k)
2. with the right motherboard or video card you can output 1080p through HDMI
3. you can easily run HD files and SD files without any hiccup, given that you know how to use it .. ;D
4. you can easily play HD downloads (.mkv)
5. upgradeable ..
and ofcourse, me being familiar with the hardware .. its easy for me to tinker with it .. :)
very true. tapos may computer ka pa. sir ninja, mga how much will it cost to do all those things above. tia!
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Eh meron ka naman palang 42 plasma Bro hindi mo agad sinasabi ;D ;D ;D
I'm not too much counting on it, kasi kay misis at mga bata lang di nako makasingit. Pero since maraming series, (Gossip Girls?) malamang magamit ko na. ;D
Baka mas madali interface with NMT instead of HTPC in your case? I'm connecting my HTPC to the HDTVs using either DVI or the special HDTV out (with component video dongle) of my ATI 4850 card. Havent tried the ATI supplied DVI/HDMI adapter pero I think pareho lang. HTPC loyalist here!
I will just hit two birds with one stone. Since nasa bedroom din naman yung PC, eh dun na lang. Eh mukhang wala ng pag-asa sa HT room ko yan. I dont think I can maximize the use of an NMT if purely for playback only, sayang di ba? Who knows, I might become one of the loyalists just like you. ;)
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I will just hit two birds with one stone. Since nasa bedroom din naman yung PC, eh dun na lang. Eh mukhang wala ng pag-asa sa HT room ko yan. I dont think I can maximize the use of an NMT if purely for playback only, sayang di ba? Who knows, I might become one of the loyalists just like you. ;)
Good plan I should say.
Ganun din feeling ko about NMTs because I've been doing a lot of personal computing since 1985, that my life is so attached to a PC. The PC can do everything an NMT can plus a lot more functions and tools that I cant live without. Besides, when you take mkv seriously, fast and reliable content acquisition is just as important as playback.
Pero if you really just want to experience high def, I would say the prevailing prices of NMTs are quite fair for what they're capable of doing. You need a powerful PC for "nearly" trouble free handling of mkvs (1080p encodes are still headaches). I dont know how much a capable PC would cost in Manila, but here in Tokyo, I certainly won't be able to buy a 14K-peso PC that can smoothly play 720p mkvs. So that 16K package that includes 500GB or the 20K package with 1TB are good buys in my opinion. Medyo borderline level nga lang ang 20K pesoss because at that price, I can have a 720p mkv capable PC already
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Good plan I should say.
Thank you. ;)
20K pesos because at that price, I can have a 720p mkv capable PC already
I can live with the 720p. And at 20k...pogi na pogi na yang PC mo dito.
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Sir froot tanong ko lang kung you are planning for an upgrade or you want a bnew setup? Sorry hindi ko na binasa yung ibang replies dito kaya hindi ko alam. Kung upgrade lang sakto na ang 20k kung bnew mga 25k-35k kasama na yung mga pogi points dito. :)
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Buti na lang!..... ;D Since my desktop is scheduled for an upgrade, then I might just settle for an HTPC.
Upgrade pala. ;D Why not build a bnew pc na lang worth 30k kasi malamang ang matitira lang talaga sa inyo yung case, at psu (baka nga palitan nyo na rin 'to). I would still prefer dvd drive instead of blu-ray dami pa ako nababasa na problems about blu-ray drives. For now MKV happy ka na. I would say na mag-invest kayo processor tapos mobo to future proof your htpc and then RAM. Video card...is an option but I would recommend na mid-range na kunin nyo na mga 5k-8k. Siguro future upgrade nyo na lang yung sound card.
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I've got a pretty good amount of stuff in my hard drives that completely made me ignore/forget BD. If I have to make a list of things to buy for my PC, a BD drive would be at the bottom of the list. Hard drives and DVD-Rs are tops at the moment.
I still love my HD DVD add on drive though.
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@dyerds, I will actually build a new one. Right, no BD tray in my plan. Kasi yung 500gb HDD I got (from Clondalkin) eh happy na ako. Victoria Secret Fashion Show, HOT!! and the other Discovery Specials, that alone might take me months to finish. ;) not to mention the movies.
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I've got a pretty good amount of stuff in my hard drives that completely made me ignore/forget BD. If I have to make a list of things to buy for my PC, a BD drive would be at the bottom of the list. Hard drives and DVD-Rs are tops at the moment.
I still love my HD DVD add on drive though.
Bro, what's the best 1080p / 720p encoder that I can use on an Acer X3200 (AMD X2 powered) ?
Also, look forward to your next visit in December? Need my next 1TB media and content fix, bro... :-)
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Bro, what's the best 1080p / 720p encoder that I can use on an Acer X3200 (AMD X2 powered) ?
Also, look forward to your next visit in December? Need my next 1TB media and content fix, bro... :-)
Hi Tony. Can you please clarify. Do you intend to do the encoding yourself of original BDs and HD DVDs? Life is so much easier and happier if you'd just DL the readily encoded stuff from sites like HD bits.ro. Or do you mean the software decoder/player?
Yeah, looking forward to seeing you again come Dec 2008 Bro. Nahihilo ako sa dami ng bagong contents recently. ;D
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Thank you. ;)
I can live with the 720p. And at 20k...pogi na pogi na yang PC mo dito.
make that 1080p .. ;)
very true. tapos may computer ka pa. sir ninja, mga how much will it cost to do all those things above. tia!
well mine was around 18k - 20k (prolly cheaper now)
make that 23k - 25k cause im gonna add a bluray rom soon .. :)
medyo nag eenjoy nako sa ps3 (initial plan for my ps3 was for bluray playback lang) .. so im planning to integrate all my HT stuff on my htpc and pure gaming for my ps3 ..
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This is where we should go RIGHT NOW.
Go to your PC room and get Indy Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull high def. ;D Yeah right now (actually kahapon pa). Enjoy!
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@dyerds, I will actually build a new one. Right, no BD tray in my plan. Kasi yung 500gb HDD I got (from Clondalkin) eh happy na ako. Victoria Secret Fashion Show, HOT!! and the other Discovery Specials, that alone might take me months to finish. ;) not to mention the movies.
ei are you anywhere near makati?
maybe we can schedule a meetup :)
can i copy your discovery specials? i can return the favor when i get my 1tb ext drive back :)
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This is where we should go RIGHT NOW.
Go to your PC room and get Indy Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull high def. ;D Yeah right now (actually kahapon pa). Enjoy!
What site sir? hdbits.ro seems to be upgrading.
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Nahihilo ako sa dami ng bagong contents recently. ;D
Pwede ba pa-update din nung HDD ko? ;D
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ei are you anywhere near makati?
maybe we can schedule a meetup :)
can i copy your discovery specials? i can return the favor when i get my 1tb ext drive back :)
Sure, will PM you when I am in the area. ;)
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Pwede ba pa-update din nung HDD ko? ;D
You want me to reformat it? ;D
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I have a copy of indy as well, used rapidshare though.
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What site sir? hdbits.ro seems to be upgrading.
Punta ka muna sa public sites.
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Sir froot tanong ko lang kung you are planning for an upgrade or you want a bnew setup? Sorry hindi ko na binasa yung ibang replies dito kaya hindi ko alam. Kung upgrade lang sakto na ang 20k kung bnew mga 25k-35k kasama na yung mga pogi points dito. :)
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Upgrade pala. ;D Why not build a bnew pc na lang worth 30k kasi malamang ang matitira lang talaga sa inyo yung case, at psu (baka nga palitan nyo na rin 'to). I would still prefer dvd drive instead of blu-ray dami pa ako nababasa na problems about blu-ray drives. For now MKV happy ka na. I would say na mag-invest kayo processor tapos mobo to future proof your htpc and then RAM. Video card...is an option but I would recommend na mid-range na kunin nyo na mga 5k-8k. Siguro future upgrade nyo na lang yung sound card.
id invest on the ram and OS .. (im a cheap b@st@rd been using 30 day trial version of vista ultimate .. reformat every 3 weeks ;D )
if youre into gaming then i suggest that you add another 10k - 15k for your videocard .. dont settle for a sub 10k video card if youre into gaming .. ;)
bluray roms per se doesnt have any issues ... its the software that drives them (the bundled software that is).. yun mga paid version nung software magaganda :)
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I would invest with the ram and a fast processor, if you won't do any gaming you can do with a motherboard with built in video, especially the new ones with hdmi.
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You want me to reformat it? ;D
Nyay! I haven't watch a fraction of it. ;D December pa naman, baka by then I'm done with all of it. SURE! ;D
I would invest with the ram and a fast processor, if you won't do any gaming you can do with a motherboard with built in video, especially the new ones with hdmi.
Correct. No heavy gaming for me. I just play with my daughter's DS lite. ;D
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Hi Tony. Can you please clarify. Do you intend to do the encoding yourself of original BDs and HD DVDs? Life is so much easier and happier if you'd just DL the readily encoded stuff from sites like HD bits.ro. Or do you mean the software decoder/player?
Yeah, looking forward to seeing you again come Dec 2008 Bro. Nahihilo ako sa dami ng bagong contents recently. ;D
Bro, pm me ha in advance... I need to add to my TB drives addiction, which you influenced greatly... :-) bwahahaha...
Yep, I meant encoding. I have a bunch of BD and HD-DVD titles and my kids want them ala jukebox style in either the EGreat, NOvatron or the Acer X3200 unit that I got which also has a built-in HDMI.
For PC player, right now I am just using KMPlayer. I wanted to reconfigure it with Windows Media Center though it only comes with licensed Vista Home for now...
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I would invest with the ram and a fast processor, if you won't do any gaming you can do with a motherboard with built in video, especially the new ones with hdmi.
yuff x2 4200+ is the sweet spot for smooth HD playback (bluray movies and mkv movies), im using x2 4600+ just to be sure .. :)
but ram is a big factor also .. 2gb for 32bit OS .. :)
Nyay! I haven't watch a fraction of it. ;D December pa naman, baka by then I'm done with all of it. SURE! ;D
Correct. No heavy gaming for me. I just play with my daughter's DS lite. ;D
get a 1tb drive and a dvdwriter cause youre in for a treat (darn western digital distro, 2 weeks na wala pa yun rma ko :( )
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Bro, pm me ha in advance... I need to add to my TB drives addiction, which you influenced greatly... :-) bwahahaha...
Yep, I meant encoding. I have a bunch of BD and HD-DVD titles and my kids want them ala jukebox style in either the EGreat, NOvatron or the Acer X3200 unit that I got which also has a built-in HDMI.
For PC player, right now I am just using KMPlayer. I wanted to reconfigure it with Windows Media Center though it only comes with licensed Vista Home for now...
i like the km player .. its like having the PQ of windows media center and the extra controls of the classic media player .. :)
add avc codec and youre good to go .. :)
btw your acer laptop, did it come with a bluray rom? my friend got an hp laptop from ebay for 50k, with bluray rom and hdmi out ... kailan kaya magiging ganun ang pricing dito satin .. :(
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yuff x2 4200+ is the sweet spot for smooth HD playback (bluray movies and mkv movies), im using x2 4600+ just to be sure .. :)
but ram is a big factor also .. 2gb for 32bit OS .. :)
Exactly, 2gb is the minimum, tried using just 1gb and i still get some stutters. Looking to try the new low power processors soon. I still prefer an htpc because of the tweaks you can do. The acer x3200 is a desktop, I like it though because its pretty small and slim and not that demanding power wise...instant htpc:)
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Exactly, 2gb is the minimum, tried using just 1gb and i still get some stutters. Looking to try the new low power processors soon. I still prefer an htpc because of the tweaks you can do. The acer x3200 is a desktop, I like it though because its pretty small and slim and not that demanding power wise...instant htpc:)
ive seen a lot of those lately (small media center pc) ... they really look good .. :)
im sure it has a builtin card reader and some add ons .. :D
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Yep, I meant encoding. I have a bunch of BD and HD-DVD titles and my kids want them ala jukebox style in either the EGreat, NOvatron or the Acer X3200 unit that I got which also has a built-in HDMI.
For PC player, right now I am just using KMPlayer. I wanted to reconfigure it with Windows Media Center though it only comes with licensed Vista Home for now...
Bro, the following link is my "bible" for HD DVD ripping and converting to mkv. "Bible" meaning I've read and understood it well (or so I thought), but in real life, it's certainly not that convenient to do especially with the time constraints. :) The ripping part is quite straightforward and fast using AnyDVD HD. The conversion part is the headache (or could be the fun part depending on your outlook). Can be done but DL is much more convenient especially for simultaneous acquisition. :)
I havent tried a BD yet because I don't have BD, but it appears to me that BD conversion is even more complicated than that of of HD DVD. Good luck anyways and have fun.
http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=14452
Havent tried Windows Media Center with mkv yet.
Cheers
BTW Bro, any playback problems with some of the 1080ps using your gadgets? Since I came back to Tokyo, I spent some time "actually watching" and set aside some very problematic 1080ps. Even my C2D powered PC gumagapang sa bigat somewhere along the 2-hour playback.
So what I have been doing is replacing those titles with ones that play well (720p nga lang). For instance, that great 10-part WW2 classic about the 101st Airborne, I have gotten the 45GB "smooth" version because the 50GB+ version that you have is so bloody heavy on my systems. Pati si Arnold sa Mars, kinuhaan ko na ng watchable version. Still in the process of finding smooth versions of Keanu extracting hydrogen from water and recently, that movie about a highly placed CIA mole.
If your NMT(s) can play all those 1080ps well, then that would be the biggest advantage of an NMT over a PC. Would really appreciate if you could share your experience with the 1080ps Bro - kung may problem I'll find the alternatives here. Thanks
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If your NMT(s) can play all those 1080ps well, then that would be the biggest advantage of an NMT over a PC. Would really appreciate if you could share your experience with the 1080ps Bro - kung may problem I'll find the alternatives here. Thanks
Have you tried installing CoreAVC as video codec? It doesn't use as much CPU resources as ffdshow and cyberlink.
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BTW Bro, any playback problems with some of the 1080ps using your gadgets? Since I came back to Tokyo, I spent some time "actually watching" and set aside some very problematic 1080ps. Even my C2D powered PC gumagapang sa bigat somewhere along the 2-hour playback.
So what I have been doing is replacing those titles with ones that play well (720p nga lang). For instance, that great 10-part WW2 classic about the 101st Airborne, I have gotten the 45GB "smooth" version because the 50GB+ version that you have is so bloody heavy on my systems. Pati si Arnold sa Mars, kinuhaan ko na ng watchable version. Still in the process of finding smooth versions of Keanu extracting hydrogen from water and recently, that movie about a highly placed CIA mole.
If your NMT(s) can play all those 1080ps well, then that would be the biggest advantage of an NMT over a PC. Would really appreciate if you could share your experience with the 1080ps Bro - kung may problem I'll find the alternatives here. Thanks
Yesterday, I watched Ironman and Vantage Point on the egreat 31b. Both movies were 1080p and both were excellent! No stutters. No artifacts. No problems... except maybe the need to stop and exit first when you need subtitles. I will keep posting my experience as I watch other 1080p movies. Dami pa. ;D ;D
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My take:
Kung PC enthusiast ka who knows about tweaking and configuring software, then HTPC is a great bet.
Kung hindi, for the rest, NMTs are pretty convenient to use. ;)
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Have you tried installing CoreAVC as video codec? It doesn't use as much CPU resources as ffdshow and cyberlink.
CoreAVC is highly overrated in my experience. It doesnt solve the problem of out-of-synch or stuttering even in my C2D PC. In my observation, CPU resource is not necessarily that critical for stutter free playback. Ive watched titles that consistently pushed CPU usage around 90%, yet played the entire 2 hours just fine.
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Let's take the 1080p challenge.
Please watch the following 1080p titles using your NMTs and share your experience. These titles can turn my C2D PC to a zombie.
1. 3:10 Yuma
2. Chain Reactions
3. Elizabeth The Golden Age
4. Total Recall
5. The Other Boleyn Girl
6. Band of Brothers
7. Breach (BTW, C2D managed to play this but the audio and video are out of synch. If its any consolation, 780G chipset based PC of my friend is NO GO)
If you dont any of the above, I can let you have them during my next vacation to test your NMTs.
Meron talagang maayos na encodes (or magaling na encoders - those whose MEGUI does not crash during the conversion to mkv), or tolerable yung frequency ng stutters and/or out-of-synch. Sana ganon lahat.
Mga OK na 1080ps I've watch so far (well Ok for my C2D but not ok for my Pentium D). Still not perfect for some but tolerable enough to completely watch.
Ironman
Vantage Point
Michael Clayton
Anger Management
John Mayer LA Concert
Batman Begins
Shinobi
Basic Instinct
Street Kings
Mummy 1
Mummy 2
Million Dollar Baby
Xmen 3
The Usual Suspects
Spiderwick Chronicles
The Ruins
The Island
The Bank Job
Star Wars 1 - 6
Sin City
Reign Over Me
Ratatouille
Rambo 1-4
National Treasures 1
National Treasures 2
Matrix 1 - 3
LOTR 1 - 3
Indy Jones 1 - 3
Ice Age 2
Hitch
Heroes Season 2
Gangs Of New York
Fool's Gold
Fantastic 4
Elizabeth
Drillbit Taylor
Catch and Release
Brave One
Blood Diamond
Black Hawk Down
Behind Enemy Lines
Batle Of The Bulge
A Mighty Heart
88 Minutes
50 First Dates
2001 Space Odyssey
12 Monkeys
Again, some are not as perfect as 720ps in terms of playback but acceptable imperfections.
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Let's take the 1080p challenge.
Please watch the following 1080p titles using your NMTs and share your experience. These titles can turn my C2D PC to a zombie.
1. 3:10 Yuma
2. Chain Reactions
3. Elizabeth The Golden Age
4. Total Recall
5. The Other Boleyn Girl
6. Band of Brothers
7. Breach (BTW, C2D managed to play this but the audio and video are out of synch. If its any consolation, 780G chipset based PC of my friend is NO GO)
If you dont have any of the above, I can let you have them during my next vacation to test your NMTs.
KELAN? KELAN? Santa Claus! ;D
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Let's take the 1080p challenge.
Please watch the following 1080p titles using your NMTs and share your experience. These titles can turn my C2D PC to a zombie.
1. 3:10 Yuma
2. Chain Reactions
3. Elizabeth The Golden Age
4. Total Recall
5. The Other Boleyn Girl
6. Band of Brothers
7. Breach (BTW, C2D managed to play this but the audio and video are out of synch. If its any consolation, 780G chipset based PC of my friend is NO GO)
If you dont any of the above, I can let you have them during my next vacation to test your NMTs.
oo nga sir clondalkin, sabihan mo lang kami, and will like to have the above stuff. ;D
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oo nga sir clondalkin, sabihan mo lang kami, and will like to have the above stuff. ;D
Ito ang da best na Xmas EB! Pasko talaga! ;D ;D
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Ipanalangin nating makakuha ako ng Jan 3,4,5 booking back to Tokyo para sa isang makabuluhang Kapaskuhan.
Otherwise, as Yoda said, there is another one... ;D ;D
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Ipanalangin nating makakuha ako ng Jan 3,4,5 booking back to Tokyo para sa isang makabuluhang Kapaskuhan.
Otherwise, as Yoda said, there is another one... ;D ;D
Hayy ... suspense pa pala.
Pagdating mo sa airport, meron na banner din greeting you at may rondalla, c/o frootloops. ;D ;D
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Hayy ... suspense pa pala.
Pagdating mo sa airport, meron na banner din greeting you at may rondalla, c/o frootloops. ;D ;D
Uy wag naman mga Bro. Magtatago ako non. ;D
Bro Jack Ryan, you're our biggest hope for feedback on 1080p playback of NMTs right now. ;D Cheers Bro.
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Ipanalangin nating makakuha ako ng Jan 3,4,5 booking back to Tokyo para sa isang makabuluhang Kapaskuhan.
Otherwise, as Yoda said, there is another one... ;D ;D
sir, I am just a PM away if you need any help regarding your booking. Just let me know.
Oh sige, wala ng banner, magandang babae na lang to assist you, at ako ang bodyguard. ;)
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@Clondalkin, ayos ah! Ang dami mong 1080p. I only download 1080p for those movies I want to rewatch again should I get a 1080p pj someday. CoreAVC works fine for me in 1080p playback. If you have a dxva complaint video cards (e.g. ATI HD2000, HD3000, HD4000 and NVIDIA 8000 and 9000 video cards), I suggest looking for mkv rips which are encoded in Profile High @ Level 4.1 dxva compliant. AFAIK, the video card will share in the processing to ensure smooth video playback. I know EuReKa group encodes 1080p in L4.1 dxva compliant.
I have 8600GTS, HD3870 and HD4850. Wala talagang epek ang CoreAVC dun sa problematic 1080ps so I felt totally ripped by CoreAVC. >:( Tried configuring various software players to use that as external decoder. It was recognized as working properly pero I couldn't see the effect. Baka naman peke yung CoreAVC ko ne. ;D
So even though I have preference for 1080p sana because my displays can show marked improvements over 720p (720ps are comparatively soft ne - quite gentle on the eyes though especially for marathon viewing), I've become selective. Dati kase kuha lang ng kuha whatever becomes available basta within 8.5GB to 15GB range per title. Biggest disappointment ko is the 50GB Band of Brothers. Got that and seeded 10x over for many hours, yun pala hindi ko rin mapanood ng maayos so sayang ang oras and energy spent. Di ko naman maatim i-delete because I thought I might find a better player someday. Now, I always check first for Level 4.1 dxva compliant encode. Dumudugo yung PC kapag nag-play ng Level 5.1 or any kind of exotic encode. The only time Ive been able to detect significant improvement in handling high def is when I play original HD DVD disks. Yes, Eureka encodes are quite reliable indeed ne.
You got the same handle in the Romanian site right? Question Bro, if a stranger asks for invite, is it safe/advisable to give?
BTW, Iron Man 1080p in DTS is available na no. Meron kayang difference dun sa first one with AC3 sound stream?
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sir, I am just a PM away if you need any help regarding your booking. Just let me know.
Oh sige, wala ng banner, magandang babae na lang to assist you, at ako ang bodyguard. ;)
Bro Frootloops. Serious Xmas Xchange gift offer. A confirmed seat either on Jan 3, 4 (Manila-Tokyo) for a 500GB internal hard drive (kung gusto mo ng totally blank ok lang).
And kung maganda talaga yung babae, could you kindly leave us two alone? ;D ;D ;D
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Bro, so far I've done Band of Brothers 1080p and I am a happy camper on the NMT ::)
Is there a particular scene you want me to zero-in on ?
National Treasures 2 was also fantastic on the NMT / Egreat 31B !
Cheers,
-JackRyan
Let's take the 1080p challenge.
Please watch the following 1080p titles using your NMTs and share your experience. These titles can turn my C2D PC to a zombie.
1. 3:10 Yuma
2. Chain Reactions
3. Elizabeth The Golden Age
4. Total Recall
5. The Other Boleyn Girl
6. Band of Brothers
7. Breach (BTW, C2D managed to play this but the audio and video are out of synch. If its any consolation, 780G chipset based PC of my friend is NO GO)
If you dont any of the above, I can let you have them during my next vacation to test your NMTs.
Meron talagang maayos na encodes (or magaling na encoders - those whose MEGUI does not crash during the conversion to mkv), or tolerable yung frequency ng stutters and/or out-of-synch. Sana ganon lahat.
Mga OK na 1080ps I've watch so far (well Ok for my C2D but not ok for my Pentium D). Still not perfect for some but tolerable enough to completely watch.
Ironman
Vantage Point
Michael Clayton
Anger Management
John Mayer LA Concert
Batman Begins
Shinobi
Anger Management
Basic Instinct
Street Kings
Mummy 1
Mummy 2
Million Dollar Baby
Xmen 3
The Usual Suspects
Spiderwick Chronicles
The Ruins
The Island
The Bank Job
Star Wars 1 - 6
Sin City
Reign Over Me
Ratatouille
Rambo 1-4
National Treasures 1
National Treasures 2
Matrix 1 - 3
LOTR 1 - 3
Indy Jones 1 - 3
Ice Age 2
Hitch
Heroes Season 2
Gangs Of New York
Fool's Gold
Fantastic 4
Elizabeth
Drillbit Taylor
Catch and Release
Brave One
Blood Diamond
Black Hawk Down
Behind Enemy Lines
Batle Of The Bulge
A Mighty Heart
88 Minutes
50 First Dates
2001 Space Odyssey
12 Monkeys
Again, some are not as perfect as 720ps in terms of playback but acceptable imperfections.
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Bro, so far I've done Band of Brothers 1080p and I am a happy camper on the NMT ::)
Is there a particular scene you want me to zero-in on ?
National Treasures 2 was also fantastic on the NMT / Egreat 31B !
Cheers,
-JackRyan
Holy crap! So my C2D HTPC is a crap compared to an NMT! My PC gets a lot of AV out of synch in BOB 1080p sa simula palang while the 101st Airborne were waiting for "go signal" to start the invasion.
Mga kababayan, NMT is the best!!! (Frootloops Bro, you might want to consider this. A 1080p encode will blow you away on your 42 inch plasma).
Bro, both the Popcorn and the Egreat are able to do that? What about your new PC? Thanks Bro!
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Holy crap! So my C2D HTPC is a crap compared to an NMT! My PC gets a lot of AV out of synch in BOB 1080p sa simula palang while the 101st Airborne were waiting for "go signal" to start the invasion.
Mga kababayan, NMT is the best!!!
Hold your horses... the only thing I've noticed is that in some mkv files the subtitles are not in sync though... :-)
so far my kids are making the best out of the NMT... i have to take out the interesting titles that you and I cherish much hahaha... the 2TB I got from you are really sulit !!! ::) ;D ;)
can't wait for the next drop... ::) ;D :D
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Bro, both the Popcorn and the Egreat are able to do that? What about your new PC? Thanks Bro!
Popcorn A100 is a goner... it's no longer with me. I've shifted to the EGreat 31B and Novatron NMT's.
As for the Acer X3200, it's still in the box. I have to find a good time to make it "appear" without the wifey making a big deal about another gadget "kalat"... ::) ;D
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Hold your horses... the only thing I've noticed is that in some mkv files the subtitles are not in sync though... :-)
so far my kids are making the best out of the NMT... i have to take out the interesting titles that you and I cherish much hahaha... the 2TB I got from you are really sulit !!! ::) ;D ;)
Oh if there's one thing the HTPC is consistently good at is that the subtitles would almost always sync with the audio even though the audio is out of sync with the video ;D ;D ;D And with an HTPC, it is quite convenient to re-sync the subs and the audio on the fly with a little bit of mental arithmetic.
Maybe Im really getting old but those titles that I used to cherish so much...they all taste the same. Parang 7-pairs of underwear na pareho-pareho lang ang feel kahit anong isuot, basta nakasuot. So whether it be Teagan or Tara or Jesse Jane or the scary looking ones, parang generic ;D But I keep on getting them though. ;D ;D
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I have 8600GTS, HD3870 and HD4850. Wala talagang epek ang CoreAVC dun sa problematic 1080ps so I felt totally ripped by CoreAVC. >:( Tried configuring various software players to use that as external decoder. It was recognized as working properly pero I couldn't see the effect. Baka naman peke yung CoreAVC ko ne. ;D
So even though I have preference for 1080p sana because my displays can show marked improvements over 720p (720ps are comparatively soft ne - quite gentle on the eyes though especially for marathon viewing), I've become selective. Dati kase kuha lang ng kuha whatever becomes available basta within 8.5GB to 15GB range per title. Biggest disappointment ko is the 50GB Band of Brothers. Got that and seeded 10x over for many hours, yun pala hindi ko rin mapanood ng maayos so sayang ang oras and energy spent. Di ko naman maatim i-delete because I thought I might find a better player someday. Now, I always check first for Level 4.1 dxva compliant encode. Dumudugo yung PC kapag nag-play ng Level 5.1 or any kind of exotic encode. The only time Ive been able to detect significant improvement in handling high def is when I play original HD DVD disks. Yes, Eureka encodes are quite reliable indeed ne.
You got the same handle in the Romanian site right? Question Bro, if a stranger asks for invite, is it safe/advisable to give?
BTW, Iron Man 1080p in DTS is available na no. Meron kayang difference dun sa first one with AC3 sound stream?
Hmmm...wait a minute, are you sure you've configured your video codec correctly? Installing coreavc doesn't automatically make your player use it. You can check if coreavc is the one being used in media player classic by clicking the "Play" tab then "filter", you must see coveavc instead of the default "ffdshow video decoder" (or cyberlinks in case you've installed powerdvd). To change it, click "ffdshow" then disable "libavcodec" decoder in "H264.avc" format. You can now see "coreavc" in the filter tab instead of "ffdshow". If the playback still stutters, maybe there's something wrong with the source. The latest CoreAVC is 1.800 I think.
Giving out invites to strangers is not really advisable since you might get banned should your invitee cheat using software that increase upload amount or seriously violate the trackers rules. So I'll be very careful if I like the site very much. But I do give invites to strangers to non-critical sites, those I don't mind getting banned. :D
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I tried fiddling my egreat and I notice that you can turn on or off the subtitle, change its location, increase the font size, change color and even change the timing of the subtitle so that it will be in sync with the video. I haven't tried it though.
As to syncing audio to video, it's really a pain in the ass. I have files that are really out of sync (e.g. Ratatouille Septic encode). In that case, either find a "fix file" which the encoder group would later release or resync it yourself using mkvmerge and tinker with the timing of the audio to sync with the video. Hassle masyado. >:(
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I tried fiddling my egreat and I notice that you change the timing of the subtitle so that it will be in sync with the video. I haven't tried it though.
tried this with out of sync subs with my egreat m31a, you can adjust the subtitles up to 0.5 second increments, plus or minus :)
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Bro Frootloops. Serious Xmas Xchange gift offer. A confirmed seat either on Jan 3, 4 (Manila-Tokyo) for a 500GB internal hard drive (kung gusto mo ng totally blank ok lang).
And kung maganda talaga yung babae, could you kindly leave us two alone? ;D ;D ;D
How about your Tokyo-Manila? Kindly email me (donnel111@yahoo) your info so we can discuss further. Yup, those dates you mentioned is heavy so let's better do it early.
And regarding sa babae, no problem at all, basta isoli mo lang ng buo. ;D
Mga kababayan, NMT is the best!!! (Frootloops Bro, you might want to consider this. A 1080p encode will blow you away on your 42 inch plasma).
Yes, the NMT will still be on my wishlist. Anyway, Xmas is just around the corner, have to be good from now on, request ko kay Santa yan. :D
Btw, wala pa ba NMT dyan sa Japan? or bawal. I can imagine how easy to DL at your end, when I was at my friends house at Narita, I saw his unbelievable connection speed, parang naawa ako sa 999 plan ko sa PLDT. And when I say unbelievable, meron palang ganun talaga kabilis na connection. :o
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I tried fiddling my egreat and I notice that you can turn on or off the subtitle, change its location, increase the font size, change color and even change the timing of the subtitle so that it will be in sync with the video. I haven't tried it though.
As to syncing audio to video, it's really a pain in the ass. I have files that are really out of sync (e.g. Ratatouille Septic encode). In that case, either find a "fix file" which the encoder group would later release or resync it yourself using mkvmerge and tinker with the timing of the audio to sync with the video. Hassle masyado. >:(
I didn't know you could manipulate the subtitles that way with egreat. Gotta try it.
With regard to audio-video sync, on many newer AVR's, there is an audio delay function. That should solve the problem -if you use an NMT connected to an AVR-, unless the audio delay is not consistent.
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brader stickfighter sama ka sa group buy ?
Brader sanmig, sorry sa late reply. My brother came home from the US and had to spend time with him. Now nalang ako naka log-in! :) Anyway, still have to go to Ehome to audition the Egreat. :P Di pa ako naka pag-decide! ::)
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Brader sanmig, sorry sa late reply. My brother came home from the US and had to spend time with him. Now nalang ako naka log-in! :) Anyway, still have to go to Ehome to audition the Egreat. :P Di pa ako naka pag-decide! ::)
Tira na bro!!! Highly recommended. So far the rips I've seen really rival or surpass the output generated by my BD and HDDVD players. May ilang problematic title pero madali lang naman palitan - very low barrier to entry in this new territory! ;)
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Tira na bro!!! Highly recommended. So far the rips I've seen really rival or surpass the output generated by my BD and HDDVD players. May ilang problematic title pero madali lang naman palitan - very low barrier to entry in this new territory! ;)
Good evening Sir Marl! ;D So, in your opinion, between BD and Egreat, the later is the better choice, in terms of PQ? ;D
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Good evening Sir Marl! ;D So, in your opinion, between BD and Egreat, the later is the better choice, in terms of PQ? ;D
You know what I noticed after the shoot-out? Parang andaming lumabas na followers ng hd rips. ;D Does the hd rips really exceeded the expectations of many people who where there?
How ironic that htpc lost in votes in this thread but the OP decided to build one. ;D Sir froot baka kapag nagkaroon na kayo ng htpc magdalawang isip na kayo bumili ng Egreat. ;D
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You know what I noticed after the shoot-out? Parang andaming lumabas na followers ng hd rips. ;D Does the hd rips really exceed the expectations of many people who where there?
How ironic that htpc lost in votes in this thread but the OP decided to build one. ;D Sir froot baka kapag nagkaroon na kayo ng htpc magdalawang isip na kayo bumili ng Egreat. ;D
I guess the only down side with the Egreat vs the BD is the audio output. ::) Can the Egreat output 5.1 Dolby or DTS Surround Sound? :P
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You know what I noticed after the shoot-out? Parang andaming lumabas na followers ng hd rips. ;D Does the hd rips really exceed the expectations of many people who where there?
How ironic that htpc lost in votes in this thread but the OP decided to build one. ;D Sir froot baka kapag nagkaroon na kayo ng htpc magdalawang isip na kayo bumili ng Egreat. ;D
If you were to look at my score during the shoot-out, it turned out that I ranked BD the highest, next is the PCH. But with the rate new NMT's are coming out now, this is still on my wishlist. It's getting better and easier to use. So a bit of wait pa. Akala ko kasi pwede na sa pj ko, kapos pala. :'( So now upgrading my pj is a thing to consider pa. Dito ko kasi talaga gusto gamitin.
Why I decided to go HTPC now? since purely plug & play lang at naghihingalo na PC ko, eh bago, dadamihan ko na pogi points para bago dumating si Clondalkin, I maybe able to watch all the contents at ma-reformat na HDD ko. ;D dun muna ako sa plasma ni misis. :P
So I think I found my way (for now ;D ) PC first, then PS3 or OPPO, finally NMT come Christmas. Everybody happy na tayo.
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I guess the only down side with the Egreat vs the BD is the audio output. ::) Can the Egreat output 5.1 Dolby or DTS Surround Sound? :P
YES it can! ;D And since it is already HDMI 1.3 it IS ready to deliver Dolby Digital Plus, dolby TRUEHD and DTS MASTER AUDIO. :o
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YES it can! ;D And since it is already HDMI 1.3 it IS ready to deliver Dolby Digital Plus, dolby TRUEHD and DTS MASTER AUDIO. :o
Mukhang masaya ang isang bata jan ah. ;D ;D ;D
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YES it can! ;D And since it is already HDMI 1.3 it IS ready to deliver Dolby Digital Plus, dolby TRUEHD and DTS MASTER AUDIO. :o
Whoa! :o That's EGREAT news! ;D Thanks for this info brader! ;D This is definitely a machine to consider. ;)
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Good evening Sir Marl! ;D So, in your opinion, between BD and Egreat, the later is the better choice, in terms of PQ? ;D
I can't say absolutely, but per the shootout results and my personal observations so far, it runs at least at par or even better (there are really crappy BD releases kse). Conversely, there are also some kick-ass reference BDs in all their 50gig glory which can blow away any 8gig mkv rip any day.
HOWEVER, when you consider the extremely wide investment gap - there is no question which is the better choice. ;)
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YES it can! ;D And since it is already HDMI 1.3 it IS ready to deliver Dolby Digital Plus, dolby TRUEHD and DTS MASTER AUDIO. :o
Correctamundo!!! One can experience TrueHD with EG 31B (though I haven't verified it). From what I gather (and correct me if I'm wrong), you just need to hook up your 1.3 capable EG to an HDMI AVR and play a TrueHD rip which runs to around 30 gig ata. Check out 10,000 BC in the mkv titles - it has a TruHD option if I recall right...
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Whoa! :o That's EGREAT news! ;D Thanks for this info brader! ;D This is definitely a machine to consider. ;)
haha... upak na bro! :D
ang problema ata, magkaka-stock out na ng ilang 'components'! ::)
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Correctamundo!!! One can experience TrueHD with EG 31B (though I haven't verified it). From what I gather (and correct me if I'm wrong), you just need to hook up your 1.3 capable EG to an HDMI AVR and play a TrueHD rip which runs to around 30 gig ata. Check out 10,000 BC in the mkv titles - it has a TruHD option if I recall right...
Ok...question, if I only have a regular AVR with no HDMI connection, can I still experience 5.1 surround sound while viewing film via the Egreat? :P
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Ok...question, if I only have a regular AVR with no HDMI connection, can I still experience 5.1 surround sound while viewing film via the Egreat? :P
You don't need HDMI to get 5.1 surround. Just use your normal coax in --- wait, wait ... eGreat31b has optical out. PCH100 has coax out. You need to check compatibility with your AVR
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Yesterday, I watched Ironman and Vantage Point on the egreat 31b. Both movies were 1080p and both were excellent! No stutters. No artifacts. No problems... except maybe the need to stop and exit first when you need subtitles. I will keep posting my experience as I watch other 1080p movies. Dami pa. ;D ;D
I watched "The Kingdom". 1080p. Perfect again!
I tried to be alert, watching for any possible flaws -video or audio. Wala ako makita.
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I watched "The Kingdom". 1080p. Perfect again!
I tried to be alert, watching for any possible flaws -video or audio. Wala ako makita.
So I think I found my way (for now ;D ) PC first, then PS3 or OPPO, finally NMT come Christmas. Everybody happy na tayo.
Hmmmm...let me rephrase that to PC-->NMT-->OPPO. ;D ;D ;D
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How about your Tokyo-Manila? Kindly email me (donnel111@yahoo) your info so we can discuss further. Yup, those dates you mentioned is heavy so let's better do it early.
And regarding sa babae, no problem at all, basta isoli mo lang ng buo. ;D
Btw, wala pa ba NMT dyan sa Japan? or bawal. I can imagine how easy to DL at your end, when I was at my friends house at Narita, I saw his unbelievable connection speed, parang naawa ako sa 999 plan ko sa PLDT. And when I say unbelievable, meron palang ganun talaga kabilis na connection. :o
Hi Frootloops. I sent you an email today. I assumed that extension is yahoo.com and not yahoo.co.ph or yahoo.co.jp.
You can buy a Popcorn online through a Japanese dealer for nearly 30K yen so pareho rin halos price in Manila. Havent checked about other NMT makers though. NMTs are not popular in Japan because the preferred method of delivery (ika nga) right now in the home network is through the PS3 or, HDD recorders, or the PSP, or PCs connected to the HDTV, or standalone desktops with very very high quality high def monitors, or even directly through web enabled HDTV. Besides, most Japanese need the Japanese subs which are not readily available in any of the popular overseas high def sites. In many cases kase, BD release of certain titles in Japan is delayed by months compared to overseas.
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Hmmmm...let me rephrase that to PC-->NMT-->OPPO. ;D ;D ;D
Perhaps this is a better sequence
PC - NMT - PJ
NMT - PC - PJ
Do you really need an upscaler? Your DVDs have served their purpose already, and they will always be watchable anyways using the cheapest players in the market. Parang switch din yan from VHS, to C-VHS, to Video8, to Video Hi-8, to Mini DV, to high def in home video. As long as the content is great, you'd live happily ever after. Have you watched the Japanese movie Love Letters? I'm praying hard that it would be released in any form of high def soon, but even in "lossy" DVD or avi format, my wife and I cant stop watching it again and again.
And once you start using a PC or NMT for high def viewing, sa dami ng laman ng hard drives, do you think you'd have sufficient time to re-watch your DVD collections? Yung 100 Greatest Discoveries mo palang ubos na buong week mo diba? ;D
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Hi Frootloops. I sent you an email today. I assumed that extension is yahoo.com and not yahoo.co.ph or yahoo.co.jp.
Got the mail. Replied na.
PC - NMT - PJ
This is the better sequence for me. Happy na! ;D
I normally have a visitor almost every week, family members and friends who watch here. So sulit na rin sa akin ito. If you are to check my SD titles, parang 50/50 kami ng mga bata, most of what's left of me are titles which I can rewatch over and over. ;) some are already on its way to the Marketplace.
Yung 100 Greatest Discoveries mo palang ubos na buong week mo diba?
The problem with this show is when you start watching, it's so hard to stop. Super ganda eh. I will be on-leave next week, yari sa akin ito. ;D Last weekend I watched the DRIFTING, and boy..sa desktop ko pa lang ang pogi na. ;)
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Hmmmm...let me rephrase that to PC-->NMT-->OPPO. ;D ;D ;D
pssst froot how about this?
PJ-NMT-extreme-MAC ;D
Pare next week ko na get yung mask ha ;) short this week eh ;D
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Ok...question, if I only have a regular AVR with no HDMI connection, can I still experience 5.1 surround sound while viewing film via the Egreat? :P
pwede, use hdmi to your panel directly, then coax/optical to your avr (almost all avrs have both audio outs anyway) so you get great video and great sound too. ;D
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I can't say absolutely, but per the shootout results and my personal observations so far, it runs at least at par or even better (there are really crappy BD releases kse). Conversely, there are also some kick-ass reference BDs in all their 50gig glory which can blow away any 8gig mkv rip any day.
HOWEVER, when you consider the extremely wide investment gap - there is no question which is the better choice. ;)
very true sir marl! ;D
edit: took out some computations... ;)
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Correctamundo!!! One can experience TrueHD with EG 31B (though I haven't verified it). From what I gather (and correct me if I'm wrong), you just need to hook up your 1.3 capable EG to an HDMI AVR and play a TrueHD rip which runs to around 30 gig ata. Check out 10,000 BC in the mkv titles - it has a TruHD option if I recall right...
30 gb for added tru hd mkvs. hmmm.... sayang ata yung hard disc space. pang 4 na 1080p movies na yan. or 6-7 720p movies. ;D ;D ;D
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very true sir marl, my computation is 60 pesos for 720p mkvs (5gb x 7 pesos = 35 pesos + 25 pesos for electricity and dsl time) vs. 800-1000 pesos for bds. ;D ;D ;D
I think we would be at the safe side of a very fine line if we would just mention that a hard disk drive costs x thousand pesos and other costs related to the use of the hard disk drive (if any) are incidental? :)
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I think we would be at the safe side of a very fine line if we would just mention that a hard disk drive costs x thousand pesos and other costs related to the use of the hard disk drive (if any) are incidental? :)
oo nga pala.... ;D
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30 gb for added tru hd mkvs. hmmm.... sayang ata yung hard disc space. pang 4 na 1080p movies na yan. or 6-7 720p movies. ;D ;D ;D
Sayang nga. If I want a movie to have lossless sound, bilhin ko na lang yung BD copy nya. Masyado matagal download ng 30-40gb na file. Ok lang sana kung meron 10 mbps plan sa atin na mura yung fee, pwede pa. Kaya lang medyo matagal pa tayo dun eh.
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Good evening Sir Marl! ;D So, in your opinion, between BD and Egreat, the later is the better choice, in terms of PQ? ;D
You have to consider that most mkvs are enhanced by the encoders. So with proper knowledge about ripping and encoding, the right hardware and application and sufficient time, you can make a BD or HD DVD rip look any way you want. But for practical purposes, why bother if some brilliant enthusiasts have already done the hard job well enough?
Even in extreme cases, sabi nga ng matatanda, ang pangit nakakasanayan in 3 days...ang maganda nakakasawaan in X months. ;D ;D ;D ------ paano na yung halos di mo ma-recognize ang difference under normal conditions?
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Sayang nga. If I want a movie to have lossless sound, bilhin ko na lang yung BD copy nya. Masyado matagal download ng 30-40gb na file. Ok lang sana kung meron 10 mbps plan sa atin na mura yung fee, pwede pa. Kaya lang medyo matagal pa tayo dun eh.
Hypothetical question. What if I already have those 25GB-40GB stuff with everything in it, any takers? ;D ;D ;D
Everytime I look at the link of some movies I really enjoyed, but show something like 30GB in size, my mind sings "Im caught between goodbye and I love you" ;D ;D ;D
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Hypothetical question. What if I already have those 25GB-40GB stuff with everything in it, any takers? ;D ;D ;D
Everytime I look at the link of some movies I really enjoyed, but show something like 30GB in size, my mind sings "Im caught between goodbye and I love you" ;D ;D ;D
My take:
Based on the results of the Blind Test and my own personal experience, I think its very difficult to detect the difference between lossless and legacy audio, unless you are watching reference concert material. For ordinary movies, including those with lots of effects, I believe that the difference is marginal.
Therefore, I would not waste my 30GB of hdd space on movies. All of the movies I have watched on NMT's have pretty good audio and sometimes, depending on the material, the audio has been pretty incredible, even if none of them were lossless.
On the other hand, if there is a concert with reference audio (which I like), I'd prefer to buy the BD version. Besides, parang kaunti lang naman ang concert rips.
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Sayang nga. If I want a movie to have lossless sound, bilhin ko na lang yung BD copy nya. Masyado matagal download ng 30-40gb na file. Ok lang sana kung meron 10 mbps plan sa atin na mura yung fee, pwede pa. Kaya lang medyo matagal pa tayo dun eh.
Based on my experience it took me more than 15 days to download a 22-gig file (Spider-man 1,2 and 3). Saya di ba? ;D This is the largest file I downloaded siguro matagal na bago masundan ng ganito kalaki. ;D Of course I did not leave my pc open for 15 days, siguro an average of 6 hrs a day lang. Well I don't have enough time to watch all those movies naman on my rest day kaya okay lang din maghintay ng mga downloads. Dami pa rin naman nakapila hd-rips at dvd's. :)
IMO, I wouldn't waste my time downloading a 30-40 gig movie because it's not worth it. As what sir street, posted pretty good naman audio ng mga 6-8 gigs ng mga rips. Beside, that's why we are into rips para makatipid di ba? ;D
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Clondalkin have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling your old codecs?
this worked for me when i experience delays in audio .. hope this helps cause i really cant believe your c2d system could not play it properly .. btw have you tried overclocking the processor? :D
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Clondalkin have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling your old codecs?
this worked for me when i experience delays in audio .. hope this helps cause i really cant believe your c2d system could not play it properly .. btw have you tried overclocking the processor? :D
Please try watching the problematic 1080p encodes I listed and kindly give feedback. The ffdshow I installed was the latest version available when I got the C2D system in Oct 2007. I havent touched it since. Malamang marami na ngang updates. Aside from Vista Home Premium (which is certainly heavier than XP), I'm also running Norton 2008 and all other sorts of background processes which could be contributing to the problem. However, resource usage is still quite low when I experienced unrecoverable out of sync issues. So I thought the problem was inherent in the encode until Jack Ryan posted that he plays the BOB 1080p with his eGreat greatly well.
But it's no big deal really because 5 to 10 stuttery titles out of approx. 600 is easily acceptable. Growing up pains. Besides, the newer encodes are almost always reliable.
Oh I know MPC is kinda smoother on the 1080p than KMP when I tested it on a Dell Pentium D. I havent got the time to test it on C2D though. Need to prioritize watching kase. :)
Overclocking processor is no longer my cup of tea, because stability and reliability of PC operation are tops in my personal situation. I just like to add memory, hard drives and connect whatever external peripherals I got.
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Please try watching the problematic 1080p encodes I listed and kindly give feedback.
I scanned through Ep 1 of Band of Brothers 1080p hV rip using Media Player Classic and ffdshow as codec. No prob naman. My processor is Intel E4300 not overclocked. Which particular scene ang problematic? Mas okay if you can indicate which particular episode and time.
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I scanned through Ep 1 of Band of Brothers 1080p hV rip using Media Player Classic and ffdshow as codec. No prob naman. My processor is Intel E4300 not overclocked. Which particular scene ang problematic? Mas okay if you can indicate which particular episode and time.
Start palang. When the Airborne guys were anxiously waiting for weather. Lots of out of synch scenes, tapos hahabol..tapos di na naman sabay..tapos hahabol. Playback is very smooth actually, it's just that the audio wouldnt sync with the video in many cases and it gets irritating. But it's Ok. Jack Ryan verified that the issue is with my PC and not the content. And I'm glad I havent thrown away the file yet. I actually have 3 versions of BOB (the 25GB first release, the 45GB 720p HD DVD and the 50+GB 1080p HD DVD) so tsaka ko na iintindihan i-solve the issues of my PC once I've finished watching movies and TV shows and kung ano ano...too much backlog at the moment. :)
Yeah I think MPC would solve it because it solved "some" when I tested 1080ps with my Wife's Pentium D in Manila. Masubok nga tonight tutal pedeng mapuyat.
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pssst froot how about this?
PJ-NMT-extreme-MAC ;D
Pare next week ko na get yung mask ha ;) short this week eh ;D
Ayan naman eh oh! Pero yang Extreme for 2,500ph, why not! pwede!! ;D At bakit nagkaron ng MAC? Wala ako pambili nyan. ;D Baligtarin na lang natin Extreme-->NMT-->PJ-->MACdo (sagot na kita value meal). :D
No problem at all re the mask. 8)
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I scanned through Ep 1 of Band of Brothers 1080p hV rip using Media Player Classic and ffdshow as codec. No prob naman. My processor is Intel E4300 not overclocked. Which particular scene ang problematic? Mas okay if you can indicate which particular episode and time.
MPC just solved my problem 1080ps. ;D Stupid me, it's not the PC, it's the software player.
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You don't need HDMI to get 5.1 surround. Just use your normal coax in --- wait, wait ... eGreat31b has optical out. PCH100 has coax out. You need to check compatibility with your AVR
Hello Sir Mark! ;D Musta na po! ;D I went to Ehome this morning to audition the Egreat and it really is amazing! ;D Bilib ako sa PQ at SQ...kayang kayang tapatan ang Bluray! ;D Also, found out that 5.1 is achieveable via optical cable...so, that basically sealed the deal for me! ;) I love watching films in surround sound kasi eh... :P
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pwede, use hdmi to your panel directly, then coax/optical to your avr (almost all avrs have both audio outs anyway) so you get great video and great sound too. ;D
Thanks for the input Sir iiins. ;) Was at Ehome this morning and Richie explained to me how the Egreat can achieve 5.1 surround sound. ;D Value for money, this is the best machine by far. ;) Awesome video, great sound! :P
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MPC just solved my problem 1080ps. ;D Stupid me, it's not the PC, it's the software player.
Glad to hear that, the latest version of ffdshow works better with multicore processors :)
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Ayan naman eh oh! Pero yang Extreme for 2,500ph, why not! pwede!! ;D At bakit nagkaron ng MAC? Wala ako pambili nyan. ;D Baligtarin na lang natin Extreme-->NMT-->PJ-->MACdo (sagot na kita value meal). :D
No problem at all re the mask. 8)
May contact ako na murang mac ;) cheaper than us prices,authorized seller pa at hindi gray market ;) Wag mo na ayusin pc mo, give that to your kid to play with toonuniversity.com, syo bagay ang mac kasi mahilig ka VIRUS prone sites ;D Atleast pare gumanda yung line-up mo na promote si NMT ngayon ;D
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Thanks for the input Sir iiins. ;) Was at Ehome this morning and Richie explained to me how the Egreat can achieve 5.1 surround sound. ;D Value for money, this is the best machine by far. ;) Awesome video, great sound! :P
good to hear. go go go na! ;D
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good to hear. go go go na! ;D
Malapit na malapit na Sir iiins...just waiting for the funds to come in!!! ;D
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May contact ako na murang mac ;) cheaper than us prices,authorized seller pa at hindi gray market ;) Wag mo na ayusin pc mo, give that to your kid to play with toonuniversity.com, syo bagay ang mac kasi mahilig ka VIRUS prone sites ;D Atleast pare gumanda yung line-up mo na promote si NMT ngayon ;D
50% off din? :D Sige nga PM mo sa akin please. ;)
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not sure if you guys have also tried hooking up an external USB connected DVD drive. It works. That is, you can also play regular DVD media via the external USB DVD drive connected to the EGREAT. :-)
I did the same via XBOX360's HD-DVD add-on kit, it can see the HD media, but can't play it. On the other hand, using the same external USB HD-DVD drive, it can read regular (legacy) DVD titles without a hitch.
Hope this helps.
-JackRyan
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not sure if you guys have also tried hooking up an external USB connected DVD drive. It works. That is, you can also play regular DVD media via the external USB DVD drive connected to the EGREAT. :-)
I did the same via XBOX360's HD-DVD add-on kit, it can see the HD media, but can't play it. On the other hand, using the same external USB HD-DVD drive, it can read regular (legacy) DVD titles without a hitch.
Hope this helps.
-JackRyan
Richie, actually mentioned this to me earlier today when I was at Ehome. :) He told me that if I had an external dvd drive, that I can connect it to the Egreat via USB and be able to view dvd's. ;)
I forgot to ask if the Egreat "upcales" the viewing to a higher resolution...would you know Sir Jack? :)
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Richie, actually mentioned this to me earlier today when I was at Ehome. :) He told me that if I had an external dvd drive, that I can connect it to the Egreat via USB and be able to view dvd's. ;)
I forgot to ask if the Egreat "upcales" the viewing to a higher resolution...would you know Sir Jack? :)
since pareho lang kaluluha nyan ng pch, it does! through hdmi and component!
i also got a lot of 480p sd files, and it looks ok naman when upscaled to 720p. have not tried upscaling a real dvd through external drive though. ;D
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I cannot believe this thread. :o :o :o Why do I get this feeling this thread openly promotes program piracy. "What kind of HD collection do you have?" "Oh, I collect free HD material downloaded from the 'net" "Isn't it piracy?" "Libre naman 'to at pinaghirapan ko idownload ng matagal, binayad ko naman ung DSL ko" Pareho lang iyan sa peke na DVD..." HD naman 'to" "Anyway I will sooner or later buy an original" Yeah right...
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not sure if you guys have also tried hooking up an external USB connected DVD drive. It works. That is, you can also play regular DVD media via the external USB DVD drive connected to the EGREAT. :-)
I did the same via XBOX360's HD-DVD add-on kit, it can see the HD media, but can't play it. On the other hand, using the same external USB HD-DVD drive, it can read regular (legacy) DVD titles without a hitch.
Hope this helps.
-JackRyan
Is it possible for egreat to read mkv burned in DVD+R via external USB DVD drive? As of now, DVD media are cheaper than HDD for storage. :)
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I cannot believe this thread. :o :o :o Why do I get this feeling this thread openly promotes program piracy. "What kind of HD collection do you have?" "Oh, I collect free HD material downloaded from the 'net" "Isn't it piracy?" "Libre naman 'to at pinaghirapan ko idownload ng matagal, binayad ko naman ung DSL ko" Pareho lang iyan sa peke na DVD..." HD naman 'to" "Anyway I will sooner or later buy an original" Yeah right...
I tend to agree with this and with a complaint about this thread that I received via PM today. What started out as an interesting poll has evolved into a piracy thread, complete with little smileys that seem to indicate "I know I'm doing something not allowed here, but I termed it properly." Locking it for now until I get further advice from the Admin.
Please don't get your panties in a bunch and start half a dozen "Dear kapitan, why lock this thread???" threads right away, okay? I've already explained why I'm locking it for now, and am getting an opinion from the site owner if this sort of discussion will be allowed here. For all you know this thread may be reopened if it's gray enough...
Thank you for your attention.