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Home Theater => Sources => HTPCs => Topic started by: Alfie on Oct 08, 2008 at 08:23 AM
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(http://www.acer.com.ph/pics/products/X3200.gif)
Operating System Genuine Microsoft Windows Vista® Home Basic
Processor AM2 Ath64 X2 5000+ 940 2.6G/512KB
Chipset NVIDIA® GeForce® 8200
Memory 1 x 1GB DDR2 667MHz
Display Screen No Monitor
Video Type NVIDIA® GeForce® 8200 on board graphics with NVIDIA® GeForce®
8400 discrete graphics
Enabled NVIDIA® Hybrid SLI®
Audio Optimized Dolby® Home Theater® audio enhancement, featuring Dolby® Digital, Dolby® Pro Logic® II, Dolby® Headphone, Dolby® Virtual Speaker,
Dolby® Digital Live technologies Embedded high-definition audio with 5.1-channel and EAX® 4.0 audio support
Hard Disk 160GB HDD SATAII 7200rpm
Optical Drive 16x Supermulti Optical Drive
Card Reader with multi-in-one card reader
Network Interface Gigabit Ethernet NVIDIA 10/100/1000 with Modem
Keyboard & Mouse USB Keyboard & USB Optical Mouse
Speakers with External Speakers
I got one last August 10,2008 as I took advantage of the BPI madness sale placing it on a 12 month zero interest with a free Samsung Cellphone and USB Hub.
The AMD chip is compatible in speed with a C2D 2.0.
It's preloaded with Vista, and I was surprised at the boot running for less than 2 minutes.
This is when I changed the Mccaffe to AVG 8.0, and included all the other stuff such as the decrypters, codecs, and burners(just Nero and another).I also got myself a wireless keyboard and mouse(Logitech,cheapest Vista capable in the market).
The NVDIA 8200 configure my setting automatically,and, my old Samsung blended well, although, it only have a maximal resolution of 720p...no problem with that,I'm not into MKV files.
Realtek audio was a breeze, I just configured it to digital, if I know that that the video's capable e.g.DVD
Put it back to stereo for ordinary Divx files.
Surprisingly, the unit was silent, fan noise can be heard only if you'd want to hear it.(which I didn't when I used my amplifier and the realtek audio converts the files to dolby digital).
Of course it's a PC, so, whatever problem I may yet have to encounter in the future,I'll just Goggle it and join a forum.(Minimum 2 days solutions).
It's costs 16.9K, comes with a free Vista OS,which one can back up and restore for future use,just in case, one converted back to XP.(But why will you do that,when MS already announced the support discontinuance of XP).
No hiccups were noted with the files I tried.although I upgraded my RAM to 3 Gigs.(Max for my MB, 4Gigs are for those with 64bit apps).
It's just my choice, I find the AMD a lot faster than my Dual Core,but seemingly still a little bit slower when compared with my office provided C2D 2.66(which is unfair since it runs on XP).
I got this since I believe it's a good value for money gadget, and in fact, will do well with most DLP and LCD front projectors. It's multifunctional, very cheap as compared to the Shuttle boxes,looks professional and dignified,with it's solid color and simply embossed Acer Aspire Logo.
Currently, this is most probably the cheapest HTPC in the market, considering that an entry level AMD 64 X2 2800 chipset clone with a Gigabyte Mobo and same hardware specs would cost around 12K, whereas the Acer Aspire cost's 17K but with an incorporated licensed OS,making it more cost efficient than building yourself a clone.
Right now, this is my favorite desktop, I was able to videoconvert at nearly 3/5 times as fast as my office provided C2D 2.66(probably as fast if I have it running with XP as an OS, like my C2D in the office,although, the videocard did help, and I only have an onboard videocard in the Office). The Vista OS also has a ReadyBoost feature,wherein an external USB Flash Drive will speed up processing by providing extrenal memory.
One thing I love about this, is that I can download a torrent while watching a movie file,and by the time I finish, a message pop out that the download has been completed(noticeable once I clear the screen).
Now, since the share your HTPC thread has been closed, I opted that we have an owner's thread for this lovable HTPC, since as a desktop, we will need to constantly update and modify our units,and it's best that we have our own thread to share both vital and trivial information for our Acer X3200.
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Sir,
Supported or capable din ba ito mag dual view?
Mukhang maganda ang review nyo dito ha!
Satisfied costumer. hehehehe.
TIA,
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Supposedly via Vista OS it has dual view support, however, somebody posted in the old thread that the on board video card doesn't, but that can be remedied by incorporating another video card. ;)
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(http://www.acer.com.ph/pics/products/X3200.gif)
I got one last August 10,2008 as I took advantage of the BPI madness sale placing it on a 12 month zero interest with a free Samsung Cellphone and USB Hub.
The AMD chip is compatible in speed with a C2D 2.0.
It's preloaded with Vista, and I was surprised at the boot running for less than 2 minutes.
This is when I changed the Mccaffe to AVG 8.0, and included all the other stuff such as the decrypters, codecs, and burners(just Nero and another).I also got myself a wireless keyboard and mouse(Logitech,cheapest Vista capable in the market).
The NVDIA 8200 configure my setting automatically,and, my old Samsung blended well, although, it only have a maximal resolution of 720p...no problem with that,I'm not into MKV files.
Realtek audio was a breeze, I just configured it to digital, if I know that that the video's capable e.g.DVD
Put it back to stereo for ordinary Divx files.
Surprisingly, the unit was silent, fan noise can be heard only if you'd want to hear it.(which I didn't when I used my amplifier and the realtek audio converts the files to dolby digital).
Of course it's a PC, so, whatever problem I may yet have to encounter in the future,I'll just Goggle it and join a forum.(Minimum 2 days solutions).
It's costs 16.9K, comes with a free Vista OS,which one can back up and restore for future use,just in case, one converted back to XP.(But why will you do that,when MS already announced the support discontinuance of XP).
No hiccups were noted with the files I tried.although I upgraded my RAM to 3 Gigs.(Max for my MB, 4Gigs are for those with 64bit apps).
It's just my choice, I find the AMD a lot faster than my Dual Core,but seemingly still a little bit slower when compared with my office provided C2D 2.66(which is unfair since it runs on XP).
I got this since I believe it's a good value for money gadget, and in fact, will do well with most DLP and LCD front projectors. It's multifunctional, very cheap as compared to the Shuttle boxes,looks professional and dignified,with it's solid color and simply embossed Acer Aspire Logo.
Currently, this is most probably the cheapest HTPC in the market, considering that an entry level AMD 64 X2 2800 chipset clone with a Gigabyte Mobo and same hardware specs would cost around 12K, whereas the Acer Aspire cost's 17K but with an incorporated licensed OS,making it more cost efficient than building yourself a clone.
Right now, this is my favorite desktop, I was able to videoconvert at nearly 3/5 times as fast as my office provided C2D 2.66(probably as fast if I have it running with XP as an OS, like my C2D in the office,although, the videocard did help, and I only have an onboard videocard in the Office). The Vista OS also has a ReadyBoost feature,wherein an external USB Flash Drive will speed up processing by providing extrenal memory.
One thing I love about this, is that I can download a torrent while watching a movie file,and by the time I finish, a message pop out that the download has been completed(noticeable once I clear the screen).
Now, since the share your HTPC thread has been closed, I opted that we have an owner's thread for this lovable HTPC, since as a desktop, we will need to constantly update and modify our units,and it's best that we have our own thread to share both vital and trivial information for our Acer X3200.
sir did u installed a remote control for movie viewing like those mediaplayer? thanks
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Nope...the wireless Mouse & Keyboard is more than adequate for me, furthermore, what I installed was the PowerCinema, and it seems to respond well with the keyboard and mouse.
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Supposedly via Vista OS it has dual view support, however, somebody posted in the old thread that the on board video card doesn't, but that can be remedied by incorporating another video card. ;)
You can use dual view and clone view with the x3200 using just the onboard video card.
This is my setup.
LCD monitor as my primary display and the Panasonic pv70 as my secondary display connected via hdmi. While my daughter uses the lcd when browsing, i watch downloaded movies on the plasma at full screen mode. No lags. You can configure the resolutions differently for the 2 monitors and resize the desktop to fit the screen.
To configure
1. Turn on the 2nd display then start nvidia control panel( if the 2nd display is not On when you start Nvidia Control, the dual view and clone view options will not show),
2. Select Setup Multiple Display, select Configured Independently ( Dual View). The 2nd monitor will be like an extension of your primary display. Apply changes.
You can move the mouse and drag windowed apps to the 2nd display.
Recently tried UltraMon Software to manage my 2 displays for different backgrounds and moving apps back and forth between monitors. Works nicely.
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Mga Sir,
Tanong ulit...
Yung bang HDMI output ng ACER Aspire X3200 ay audio at video na?
Walang bang problem just incase na Windows XP ang gamitin kong OS?
Pag ka alam ko kasi Vista Home Edition ang software bundle nito eh!
Lastly, Ma vo-void ba ang warranty nito kapag inupgrade ko yung
HDD from 160gig to 1 Tera and 1gig to 2gig memory?
TIA,
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Walang bang problem just incase na Windows XP ang gamitin kong OS?
Pag ka alam ko kasi Vista Home Edition ang software bundle nito eh!
Lastly, Ma vo-void ba ang warranty nito kapag inupgrade ko yung
HDD from 160gig to 1 Tera and 1gig to 2gig memory?
TIA,
Any reason why you would want to reformat a brand new desktop? Normally, you'd forfeit your warranty if you install another OS.
HDD and addtl. RAM. Who would ever know unless meron seal sa PC case? (I havent seen a brand PC with seal on the case) Kung magkaproblema ka and you want to avail of warranty, you can easily put back the stock 160GB hard drive, then pull out the 2GB memory sticks.
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Saw a unit sa Villman booth last Sunday sa Glorietta. (BPI Madness ata). There is a warranty void sticker or seal at the back of the unit. :)
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Mga Sir,
Tanong ulit...
Yung bang HDMI output ng ACER Aspire X3200 ay audio at video na?
Walang bang problem just incase na Windows XP ang gamitin kong OS?
Pag ka alam ko kasi Vista Home Edition ang software bundle nito eh!
Lastly, Ma vo-void ba ang warranty nito kapag inupgrade ko yung
HDD from 160gig to 1 Tera and 1gig to 2gig memory?
TIA,
Madali lang iyan' ;D
Iyun' 2Gig RAM upgradable talaga :D
Sila pa nga ang mag-papayo sa iyo' na taasan ang RAM....ang sales Talk..."Sir naka VISTA Kayo mas mabuti"
Kung binasa mo ang post ko, na-kalagay nga doon, 3 gig ako, "Kasi ang MoBo pang 3 Gig lang"
Pero hindi totoo iyun' kasi iyun' Vista may 64 bit iyun' pwedeng 4 gig max.
Sa OS naman...pakiramdam ko nga mas maganda ang XP kasi nag video rendering ako,ang magandan lang dito ay Mas bi-bilis siya;
pero... bakit mo tatangalin ang Vista mo ? Maganda naman ang Vista, tapos, Future proof na. Pag pinormat mo ito'
Tangal pati ang incorporated na Acer empowering technology.
Sayang naman ;)
Palitan mo nalang ang HDD nang 250 Gig.kaysa 1 TB...kasi hindi recommendado ang 1Tb na may OS...Magbasa ka...madalasa mag Crash...sa 320 ang recomemdadon' maximum, layo na pag linagyan mo nang games: Ngayon, dito mo i-install ang XP mo. ;)
Kung binasa mo ulit ang mga post dito at sa Acer Vs. Media Player Thread....eh...sana alam mo na ito'
Sa madali't salita...Hindi affectado ang Warranty. ;)
Saw a unit sa Villman booth last Sunday sa Glorietta. (BPI Madness ata). There is a warranty void sticker or seal at the back of the unit.
Iyun' akin, wala akong nakitang warranty sticker, hinid ko sa Vilaman binili, nagkalat naman ito' eh sa iba ka na lang bumili. ;)
Iyun' kasi'ng Laptop ko, sa Acer ko binili, may warranty sitvker, kung saan ang HDD, pero sa RAM wala. ;D
Ngayon....basahin mo ang thread ni Nerveblocker,
Nag-buo siya nang Clone....17K ang inabot.
Ba't mo pa pa-hi-hirapan ang sarili mo, eh...dumeretso' ka na lang sa Clone.
Kuha mo pa lahat nang gusto mo. ;)
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I tore the warranty sticker and put another 1 gb inside. making the unit to 2gb.
My unit is attached to my lcd tv. All it does now are play HD movies, convert divx to psp mp4.
It can't play most games. >:(
The most it can play are lego games. But lego games are fun. :)
I bought a wireless Xbox 360 transmitter for the gamepads.
At least I can still used my Xbox controllers. My Xbox 360 is dead!
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I got mine at Accent Micro, and I'm so sure they didn't put any warranty sticker, since, when I got home, the DVD Writer was not detected, so I called them up,and the Tech person answered "Nakup....hindi ko ho nabalik siguro iyun' SATA...paki bukas, tuturo ko sa inyo', pero alam ninyo naman iyun' di' ba'....paki balik nalang sir....kayo rin, gusto ba ninyong bumalik dito?". ;)
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I got mine at Accent Micro, and I'm so sure they didn't put any warranty sticker, since, when I got home, the DVD Writer was not detected, so I called them up,and the Tech person answered "Nakup....hindi ko ho nabalik siguro iyun' SATA...paki bukas, tuturo ko sa inyo', pero alam ninyo naman iyun' di' ba'....paki balik nalang sir....kayo rin, gusto ba ninyong bumalik dito?". ;)
Sir i think they removed it. Coz yung nakita ko sa Villman was an Acer Warranty sticker. :)
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The Acer Store in Mega Mall Cyberzone is owned by Vilman, hence, they're probably more stickler to rules on warranty,rather than the other stores.
I bought my Acer Laptop there and right now I can visualized my warranty seal. ;)
What I'm saying is that other PC shops like Accent Micro, where I got mine, did not bother to put on the warranty seal, and an Acer employee was there to exchanged pleasantries with me when they gave me the free Samsung Phone and ACER external USB port, and even gave me tips on proper upgrading of the X3200.
So to answer the question asked.....if you wanna, upgrade and not loose the warranty( as what the question was in the 1st place)...buy at another store at the BPI Madness, and clarify the about the warranty sticker thing.....since almost all carry the X3200, including PCXpress. ;)
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Kaso iba pricing nila. Sa Villman the price was 16,900 with 12 months installment. plus free Brother dcp 135C. Sa Accent micro was 16900 cash, if 12months nasa 18,900, both with free Brother printer. I did'n't asked the other stores na.
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If you bothered to read my post above, I got mine for 16,900Php with free Samsung Cell Phone and USB peripheral ports.....but that was last August 10,2008....I guess, they have modified their pricing and Vilman in order to compete had a different freebie.
Don't get me wrong, I am friendly with some Vilman personnel both at the Acer store in Mega Mall and in Katipunan, in fact, I used to exchange notes with one of the Villaroman relatives who loves to DL Divx movies and watch them all day at their store. ;)
Going back to my original answer to the question raised that it's possible to get it at other PC Shops not only at the BPI Madness (but if you're a BPI card holder I suggest to get it in Ayala) but also in Gilmore....sans the questioned warranty sticker. ;)
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Mga Sirs may linabas na bagong AX3200. Any comments about it. Kailan kaya magiging available ito sa pinas?
Acer® AX3200-U3630A: Available now for a MSRP of $679.99
• AMD Phenom(TM) X3 Triple-Core 8450 Processor (2.1GHz, 512KB X 3 L2 Cache)
• 4096MB DDR2 Memory, Dual Channel
• NVIDIA® GeForce® 8200 Chipset
• Integrated NVIDIA® GeForce® 8200 Graphics Solution
• 640GB SATA II (7200RPM, 8MB Cache) (2)
• Blu-ray Disc(TM)/DVD-Super Multi Double-Layer Drive
• Multi-in-One Digital Media Card Reader
• 56K ITU v.92 Ready Fax/Modem (RJ-11 Port)
• Optimized Dolby Home Theater®
• Windows Vista® Home Premium 64-Bit with SP1
• 9 USB 2.0 Ports (5 Front, 4 Rear)
• IEEE 1394 Port
• HDMI Port
• eSATA Port
• Amplified Stereo Speakers (USB Powered)
• Acer USB Keyboard
• USB Optical Mouse
Acer® P244W 24-inch LCD display: Available now for a MSRP of $339
• 24-inch Widescreen
• 0.276mm Pixel Pitch
• 1920x1080 (native and maximum) Resolution
• 1080p High-Def Support
• 75Hz (Maximum) Refresh Rate
• 2ms (Gray to Gray) Response Time
• 20000:1 (ACM) Contrast Ratio
• 300cd/m2 Brightness
• 170° (H)/160° (V) Viewing Angles
• 16.7 Million Colors
• 6 + Hi-FRC Bits
• 2x HDMI, 1x VGA Inputs
• Vesa 100MM Wall Mount
• Internal Power Supply
• Energy Star Compliant
ito link:
http://gizmodo.com/5062908/acer-releases-ax3200-blu+ray-desktop-pc-and-p244w-1080p-lcd-display
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gud evening po,tanong lang about sa videocard,embedded daw ang geforce 8400 nito so it means ba na indi na to matanggal kung may plano ako magchange ng another compatible video card??...kung mag pwede,ano masuggest ninyo na ok na video cards para nito??....kung magchange tau ng HDD to 250 GB or etc.,matatanggal ba ang mga cool features nito like ur dolby at hdmi,acer empowering technology?? ty po.. ???
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For the Video card, it's an entry level motherboard with built in video card, hence, you'll need to disable it once you set in a new video card...BTW, with the exception that there's a new video card that will fit and equipped with HDMI.....of course, you'll loose the HDMI.
As for the HDD,in order to keep the other features: you can always use Acronis migrate, then utilized the original HDD as an external storage HDD. ;)
Another thing that you can do, is for you extract the software data (takes give or take 4 gig of space, if I remember right) from the original HDD, including the empowering tech....and install them on your new HDD, after installing a VISTA Basic and using the provided license number pasted on the casing of the X3200. ;)
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mga sirs,
just bought x3200, but I can't seem to output audio through hdmi.. in the realtek audio settings, the only setting for digital is spdif.. i can output through the analog outs.. is there a way to output audio through hdmi?
thanks,
erwin
EDIT: got to output audio through HDMI already.. i should be setting the default in sounds in the control panel..
But I just notice that the video through HDMI is not so good.. the text are blurry and videos are posterized... i've set already in the nvidia control panel the native resolution of my display (lx80) and i've tried different resolution but no improvement.. i've tried different types of videos (avi, mkv m-hd, 720p), they have the same problem.. movies on my previous pc with vga connection in the same display have rendered it nicely, even with a 64mb graphics card... i've purchased this htpc because of its form factor and hdmi connection..
tanong ko lang mga sirs, may iba pa bang dapat akong i-set para umayos yung video sa hdmi connection? (try ko later yung vga connection kung ok)
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Try using a lower resolution.
Lower the contrast on your LCD.
Do let us know if it worked.
BTW...what's your panel? Size and make. ;)
Enjoy. ;)
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thanks sir alfie... my display is 32lx80... i already tried different resolutions, no improvement on the video... anyway, i tried the vga connection.. video is much better and i set the resolution 1366x768 (native resolution of the panel).. i just have to settle with the addt'l analog audio cable...
tapos pala nung nagupdate ako ng driver for the nvidia 8200, nawala yung support for the HDMI audio.. ni-rollback ko na lng.. pero sa ngyon walang use yung HDMI audio kasi kinabit ko na sa analog...
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Sayang naman yung HDMI....kung hindi magamit.
Planning also to buy x3200. Question from the owners, how to maximize hdmi both for vidieo and audio? Any set up tips...
Thanks inadvance.
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For the Video card, it's an entry level motherboard with built in video card, hence, you'll need to disable it once you set in a new video card...BTW, with the exception that there's a new video card that will fit and equipped with HDMI.....of course, you'll loose the HDMI.
If you add a low profile 8400GS, you need not disable the on board video card. I believe you have to enable hybrid sli on your bios. Graphics will improve as it is Hybrid SLI ready. The on board video card (8200) and the additional card (8400 GS) will work together to improve the frame rate on games and power consumption. You will not lose the HDMI function. The on board hdmi and/or vga connections should still be used for connecting your monitors. You don't have to connect your vga monitor to the 8400GS. It should be connected to the on board video card. When installed properly, you should see a new icon on your system tray that allows you to configure the hybrid sli functions.
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Sir what kind or type of 8400GS did you installed? Upgradable pa ba ang processor ng x3200? May owners manual ba na do-download? Thanks.
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If you add a low profile 8400GS, you need not disable the on board video card. I believe you have to enable hybrid sli on your bios. Graphics will improve as it is Hybrid SLI ready. The on board video card (8200) and the additional card (8400 GS) will work together to improve the frame rate on games and power consumption. You will not lose the HDMI function. The on board hdmi and/or vga connections should still be used for connecting your monitors. You don't have to connect your vga monitor to the 8400GS. It should be connected to the on board video card. When installed properly, you should see a new icon on your system tray that allows you to configure the hybrid sli functions.
How much is the 8400GS low profile video card? Where can I get one that sells them at a reasonable price point? TIA.
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I discovered a defect with my Acer, hope that it does not affect yours.
The LAN is susceptible to overheating.
I found this out,when I placed my 512mb usb at the usb port beneath the LAN to act as a ready boost, after converting 2 titles to DVD,at around 2 hours of processing, I lost my network,and the line could not be detected. I took out the line and noticed that the usb was very hot so I turned off the desktop and let it cool down and true enough after an hour the network was back.
This happened the 2nd time when my wireless keyboard and mouse had to have their batteries changed and when I was trying to connect them, again, I lost my network.The usb port was proximal to my LAN; It came back after turning it off for an hour.
I guess this is a problem with mother boards such as these.
Hopefully, I hope it'll give way soon during the warranty, or simply not recur. :-[
Seemingly, building one with a reliably known Mobo is really better as what Nerveblocker did. :P
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What's the maximum video memory ram i can allocate for the onboard video?
I'm planning to upgarde to 4GB Memory. As of now I can barely play Red Alert 3
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Nvidia 8400 GS costs around Php 1,800.00 (Adapter is included in box).
As for upgradeability, i believe it can be upgraded to the latest AMD quad core cpu. See the link http://www.obsessable.com/desktop/acer-aspire-x3200/
Currently, i have 4Gb ram.
As for the manual, not sure kung saan ang download.
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Who among you have added 8400 GS for their X3200? I really wanted to Upgrade my onboard video card. What are my other options?
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Also would like to upgrade the video card. Accdg to this link. http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2008/09/23/lighting-review-of-t.html
"The Integrated IGP is a new bred of Nvidia hybrid SLI. As previous suggested, 8400GS/8500GT can be used to support GeForce Boost (means combine GF8200 IGP and discrete card 3D processing power). You can also hook up with hight GF9xxx, which will use Hybrid power (shut down discrete card power when running 2D and TV output) but not GF Boost (it seems IGP is too slow compared to GF9x, so 3D is delegated to discrete card *entirely*).
Low profile with half hight PCIex16 is required. But I think heat dissipation will become major problem except you mod your case."
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I discovered a defect with my Acer, hope that it does not affect yours.
The LAN is susceptible to overheating.
I found this out,when I placed my 512mb usb at the usb port beneath the LAN to act as a ready boost, after converting 2 titles to DVD,at around 2 hours of processing, I lost my network,and the line could not be detected. I took out the line and noticed that the usb was very hot so I turned off the desktop and let it cool down and true enough after an hour the network was back.
This happened the 2nd time when my wireless keyboard and mouse had to have their batteries changed and when I was trying to connect them, again, I lost my network.The usb port was proximal to my LAN; It came back after turning it off for an hour.
I guess this is a problem with mother boards such as these.
Hopefully, I hope it'll give way soon during the warranty, or simply not recur. :-[
Seemingly, building one with a reliably known Mobo is really better as what Nerveblocker did. :P
Will it be the same if you use an external USB hub?
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I have not tried it yet, I will and hopefully the problem will not recur, best thing really is not to use the usb ports at the back continuously. :P
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Upgrade Options for video card...
New video card released - Nvidia 9500 GT Low profile
Specifications:
Model: PVT95GYALG
Interface: PCI Express 2.0 x16
Chipset: NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT
- Core clock: 550MHz
- Stream Processors: 32
Memory:
- Memory Clock: 800MHz
- Memory Size: 512MB
- Memory Interface: 128-bit
- Memory Type: GDDR2
3D API:
- DirectX: DirectX 10
- OpenGL: OpenGL 2.1
Ports:
- D-SUB: 1
- DVI: 1
- TV-Out: HDTV / S-Video Out
RAMDAC: 400 MHz
Max Resolution: 2560 x 1600
RoHS Compliant: Yes
SLI Supported: Yes
Cooler: With Fan
Dual-Link DVI Supported: Yes
HDCP Ready: Yes
Hope it will be available soon in the local market.
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Same thing here. I noticed na kung babad ang USB sa likod nawawala. At mainit ang USB pag tinanggal. Mukhang di pede matagalang nakakabit ang USB sa likod.
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only palit geforce 8400 can fit into its slot coz the other videocards are wider especially the powerful ones,i tried to insert my 8500 but it wont fit in... :'( i mean it can fit into the slot but u have to remove its cover to the sides.....but i heard smaller versions are coming so lets hope that its true....but dnt worry 8400 is not so bad as long as u combine it with 8200 which will become 8500(8200+8400=geforce 8500) :P
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I just want to share to those that are also having problems with their LAN,that I think I've solve my problem but using a Network Port Switch. Hopefully this will cure this malady.
Costs me 380 pesos at CDR-King
(http://www.cdrking.com/images/products/thumbnail/Network%20Devices/enh905nwy00.gif)
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Hopefully Acer gets to hear of this problem. It seems to be a design problem. But hey, for php 380 workaround, the Acer model is still a best buy especially now with XBMC :-)
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Yun talaga ang design nila siguro. Small form factor ika nga...
Space saver...hindi naman kasi talaga yun pang gaming...
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Agree hindi pang gaming :P
Hindi kaya ang Call of Duty World At War....kahit mag SLI nang 8400GS. :P
Pang HTPC lang talaga :(
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do we have an option to upgrade the CPU ?
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Nvidia 8400 GS costs around Php 1,800.00 (Adapter is included in box).
As for upgradeability, i believe it can be upgraded to the latest AMD quad core cpu. See the link http://www.obsessable.com/desktop/acer-aspire-x3200/
Currently, i have 4Gb ram.
As for the manual, not sure kung saan ang download.
I guess, this already answers my question above... question now would be at what cost price point... ;D
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http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2008/09/23/lighting-review-of-t.html
So aside from the memory and HD upgrades, we can do:
1. Video Upgrade - http://www.rsun.com.ph/view_item.php?item=VPC150
(http://www.rsun.com.ph/images/products/VPC150.jpg)
2. CPU UPgrade -
http://www.rsun.com.ph/view_item.php?item=CPU822
http://www.rsun.com.ph/catalog.php?cat=CPU&pageID=2
I guess, we can also do a direct CPU upgrade by using either one of the two and make our units TRIPLE CORE or Quad-Core?
The only catch is that the socket specs required is an "AM2+" while our default CPU uses only "AM2" --- but just found the answer for that too --- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_AM2%2B
(http://www.rsun.com.ph/images/products/phenom.jpg)
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Nice info sir. So this means that an upgrade to phenom triple or quad core is possible? Have anyone already changed their CPU to triple or quad core?
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I hope someone has taken the leap of faith upgrade on this... I am also interested in trying out the quad core approach... now if there is a shop that can test install before I pay, that would be best for me!
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Just incase na ma upgrade yung CPU kailangan din iupgrade yung HSF.
Hindi kaya^ maging bulky na yung HSF? alam naman natin kung gaano
kainit ang AMD processor di ba? Sa SFF na casing baka hindi na kasya
yung bagong HSF...
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good point... ::)
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Agree hindi pang gaming :P
Hindi kaya ang Call of Duty World At War....kahit mag SLI nang 8400GS. :P
Pang HTPC lang talaga :(
Nvidia website claims 55% improvement on Call of Duty using Turbo Boost when using Turbo Boost with 8400 GS
See link
http://www.nvidia.com/object/hybrid_sli_desktop.html
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yep, it does make that claim...
(http://www.filehive.com/files/081117/aspire-graphics.jpg)
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Gren, have you installed the Activision's Call of Duty World At War with your Aspire X3200 ? ???
If so, were you able to play it and at what level ?
Thanks for your info, but as of now, the Datablitz and Accent Micro people advised otherwise. :-\
Really would appreciate info from someone who is playing it with his X3200. :P
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tapos pala nung nagupdate ako ng driver for the nvidia 8200, nawala yung support for the HDMI audio.. ni-rollback ko na lng.. pero sa ngyon walang use yung HDMI audio kasi kinabit ko na sa analog...
I'm having the same problem . . .
How can I get the audio to work again through hdmi?
And how do you "rollback" the Nvidia? This may be the cause of my problem too.
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Nvidia 8400 GS costs around Php 1,800.00 (Adapter is included in box).
As for upgradeability, i believe it can be upgraded to the latest AMD quad core cpu. See the link http://www.obsessable.com/desktop/acer-aspire-x3200/
Currently, i have 4Gb ram.
As for the manual, not sure kung saan ang download.
Geren,
Can you kindly help pm to me where I can get the right 8400GS card. I checked this pm at Park Square IT shops and they're not sure if the 8400GS cards they sell can handle SLI configurations. I saw one shop that can sell the card at almost 2k but they're unsure if that will work with the Aspire default video card.
(http://www.geeks.com/imageshare/S/300x300/SF-PX84GS256U2LP-HP-unit.jpg)
TIA!
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Jack Ryan, I know the question is for Geren, but let me just add that I was at the Alabang Town Center last Sunday and Accent Micro and another PC shop confirmed that "only the 8400GS" can be used with the X3200...however, they advised me not to, since they claimed, "It's better to wait for another one with a low profile adaptor, since it might not be able to carry thru World At War", and they added that I should let Acer Phil in SM Mega to do the upgrade "Bec. I might loose the warranty"
Hope this helps.
Alfie
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Thanks Alfie. I'll put that in consideration but really curious on how much more performance gain we can squeeze from this baby since my son is nagging me to have some newer games in time for Christmas... ::)
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Per Datablitz, recommended card that's good for today's gamer until maybe late next year is the 9600GSO and up(better if GT & GTS).
The 9500 GT low profile posted above is ok, but may last only until early next year.
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Why don't you guys admit to yourself that this acer is not an all in one machine. Mag-buo na lang kayo ng gaming setup para di kayo kinululit ng mga anak ninyo. Sige kayo, magtuturo yan ng kung ano-anong nabili ninyo (using the kids as the excuse) baka mapansin ni es-mi, lalo kayong malintikan. ;D
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Nice info.
Sana post nyo kung saan makabili ng upgrade parts such as video card upgrade, microp and HDD pasama na rin yung price.
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Why don't you guys admit to yourself that this acer is not an all in one machine. Mag-buo na lang kayo ng gaming setup para di kayo kinululit ng mga anak ninyo. Sige kayo, magtuturo yan ng kung ano-anong nabili ninyo (using the kids as the excuse) baka mapansin ni es-mi, lalo kayong malintikan. ;D
bwahahaha... coming from you buddy, we will treat it with much respect owing to your wisdom, age and personal experience it seems on this matter hahaha ::) ;D ;D
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Nice info.
Sana post nyo kung saan makabili ng upgrade parts such as video card upgrade, microp and HDD pasama na rin yung price.
try to consider this - http://www.rsun.com.ph/catalog.php?cat=VPC&pageID=2
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I'm having the same problem . . .
How can I get the audio to work again through hdmi?
And how do you "rollback" the Nvidia? This may be the cause of my problem too.
TomE, naalala ko nung nagupdate ako from device manager dun ko naencounter itong problem sa HDMI audio.. kaya ni-rollback ko lang din from device manager.. ok na ulit yung HDMI audio... pero nagmanual update pa rin ako using latest drivers downloaded from Nvidia site.. ayun ok na.. updated na yung drivers, tpos ok pa rin yung HDMI audio.. tingin ko lng may problem kung sa device manager ka nagupdate...
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Geren,
Can you kindly help pm to me where I can get the right 8400GS card. I checked this pm at Park Square IT shops and they're not sure if the 8400GS cards they sell can handle SLI configurations. I saw one shop that can sell the card at almost 2k but they're unsure if that will work with the Aspire default video card.
(http://www.geeks.com/imageshare/S/300x300/SF-PX84GS256U2LP-HP-unit.jpg)
TIA!
I forgot the name of the shop where i bought mine. I bought mine at Virra Mall. The unit in the pic looks the same as the one i bought and very near the price that i paid for at P 1800.00. I believe all nvidia 8400 GS low profile will work with the x3200. Be sure that it comes with the adapter for the low profile unit. P.S. Also saw a red colored 8400 GS with adapter for low profile. They should work fine.
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TomE, naalala ko nung nagupdate ako from device manager dun ko naencounter itong problem sa HDMI audio.. kaya ni-rollback ko lang din from device manager.. ok na ulit yung HDMI audio... pero nagmanual update pa rin ako using latest drivers downloaded from Nvidia site.. ayun ok na.. updated na yung drivers, tpos ok pa rin yung HDMI audio.. tingin ko lng may problem kung sa device manager ka nagupdate...
According to my wife (she was the last one to use the X3200 before it lost its audio), the audio was lost after an "update of something"; she wasn't sure what it was daw.
I was able to rollback the Nvidia already via the Device Manager but still no audio through hdmi.
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Why don't you guys admit to yourself that this acer is not an all in one machine. Mag-buo na lang kayo ng gaming setup para di kayo kinululit ng mga anak ninyo. Sige kayo, magtuturo yan ng kung ano-anong nabili ninyo (using the kids as the excuse) baka mapansin ni es-mi, lalo kayong malintikan. ;D
Agree with you Vojie....was at various PC shops in Gilmore earlier today, and the verdict was World AT War can be played flawlessly with a DDR3 utilizing Video card and the cheapest available (but really approximates the price of the 9 series) is the 8800GT.
So far, DDR3 starts with the 9500, but still what they recommend is the 9600 GSO or GT.
Only problem though is that you should have a bigger watt capacity for your PC somewhere in the 550watts, so far the cheapest is Hec at 2.8K.
So I guess, this concludes that the Acer cannot be upgraded to the 9500, since it's another power hungry video card, and we better resign ourselves that this is a good enough HTPC....well...maybe until we need to upgrade to bluray. ;)
....but then...that'll be another day. :D
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According to my wife (she was the last one to use the X3200 before it lost its audio), the audio was lost after an "update of something"; she wasn't sure what it was daw.
I was able to rollback the Nvidia already via the Device Manager but still no audio through hdmi.
TomE, bka nawala lng sa default yung HDMI audio... nung una rin ksi di ko mapagana yun, kasi wala yung HDMI audio sa realtek control panel.. yun pala maset mo lang as default yung HDMI audio sa Sound properties ng control panel ng windows (or kung KMplayer gamit mong media player, makikita mo yun as one of the choices sa Audio renderer)... dapat 4 choices makita mo dun Sound properties ng control panel: HDMI audio, Speakers, Realtek HD Audio 2nd outout (headphones) at yung Realtek Digital output.. dun maset mo na as default yung HDMI audio... pero kung 3 na nga lng yung choices dun, at wala yung HDMI audio, at wala pa din after mo magrollback, try mo na lng magupdate ng latest whql drivers ng Nvidia (ver 178.24)... sa ngayon, mula nung nagupdate ako, wala pa naman akong nkitang problema dun sa latest drivers ng nvidia.
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^ @erwin111: Thanks alot for the help! Finally got it to work again! Next step is to manually update from the website. Thanks again!
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Gren, have you installed the Activision's Call of Duty World At War with your Aspire X3200 ? ???
If so, were you able to play it and at what level ?
Thanks for your info, but as of now, the Datablitz and Accent Micro people advised otherwise. :-\
Really would appreciate info from someone who is playing it with his X3200. :P
Call of Duty 4 FPS on Acer X3200 with 8400GS (Boost Performance Set)
Optimal settings (Software Recommended)
800x600
Anti aliasing 2x
Average fps = 30
Manual Settings
1024x768
Anti aliasing= 2x
Ave = 25fps
1024x768
Anti aliasing=0ff
Ave = 29fps
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Call of Duty 4 FPS on Acer X3200 with 8400GS (Boost Performance Set)
Optimal settings (Software Recommended)
800x600
Anti aliasing 2x
Average fps = 30
Manual Settings
1024x768
Anti aliasing= 2x
Ave = 25fps
1024x768
Anti aliasing=0ff
Ave = 29fps
Yeah...right. :P
Question was simple.....#1 have you installed the Activision's Call of Duty World At War with your Aspire X3200 ?
#2 If so, were you able to play it and at what level ?
Guess, you indirectly answered,(something easily cut & paste from whatever forum. ::)...... but let me tell you World at War is Call of Duty 5, and Call Of Duty 4 is Modern Warfare, you could have fooled us if you bother to edit your post)
You see there's nothing wrong in admitting you have not, since we just all want to share our experience in improving our wares and a simple yes or no would have sufficed. :P
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Yeah...right. :P
Question was simple.....#1 have you installed the Activision's Call of Duty World At War with your Aspire X3200 ?
#2 If so, were you able to play it and at what level ?
Guess, you indirectly answered,(something easily cut & paste from whatever forum. ::)...... but let me tell you World at War is Call of Duty 5, and Call Of Duty 4 is Modern Warfare, you could have fooled us if you bother to edit your post)
You see there's nothing wrong in admitting you have not, since we just all want to share our experience in improving our wares and a simple yes or no would have sufficed. :P
I'm sorry if you feel my post was meant to fool you. That was never my intention. I merely posted the figures to give you an idea of how the unit performs with regards to playing Call of Duty with an 8400GS. That is why i indicated Call of Duty 4 on my post. I was assuming that the system requirements for the game would not be much different between COD4 and COD5.
Secondly, the figures i posted were personally recorded based on the available game i have, and not through Cut and Paste as you have presumably thought so.
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Geren, apologies accepted and thanks for your clarification.
I actually appreciate the posts here in the Acer thread and am learning from it, thus, my question, however, my experience (in fact while installing the COD-WAW) is far different from your post that's the reason for the clarification, anyway, hope it's all water under the bridge. ;)
....and keep on posting. ;D
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Have anyone played a 1080p mkv on their x3200? Any problems with it? What player did you use? Settings if any? Thanks in advance.
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Have anyone played a 1080p mkv on their x3200? Any problems with it? What player did you use? Settings if any? Thanks in advance.
Chess, what you have right now is a very good test data because it's very high bitrate but very efficient encode. So this weekend, try it with MPC + FFDshow + AC3Filter on your Acer. Kung di kakayanin yung test data mo with that player set-up, walang magagawa. But good luck!!!
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Thanks bro will do. Just asking the owners of x3200 with their experiences with 1080p...
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I dont have problems playing 1080p mkv
btw, will this fit and run?
http://www.inno3d.com/products/graphic_card/gf8/8400gs.htm
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I dont have problems playing 1080p mkv
btw, will this fit and run?
http://www.inno3d.com/products/graphic_card/gf8/8400gs.htm
I believe so. Looks the same as the others.
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Upgraded my unit to 4GB and installed the 8400GS... will be doing the HD upgrade this weekend... ::)
Still trying to re-assess whether it is worth the risk to try to upgrade from dual-core to tri-core or quad-core CPU equivalent...
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Jackryan,
Check mo muna yung power consumption ng upgrade mo. Add ka ng 4Gig memory, add ka ng Video card 8400GS,
upgrade ka ng CPU...Baka bumigay na yung PSU mo. Pagka alam ko 200W lang ang PSU nito...
suggestion lang po sir.
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Good point...
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However, I suspect that our units can handle a major upgrade judging from how the same model is configured for other international markets ---
http://www.itechnews.net/2008/09/22/acer-aspire-x3200-mini-desktop-pc/
"In addition to X1200, Acer offers also the brother, Aspire X3200 mini desktop PC. The Acer Aspire X3200 is powered by a AMD Phenom quad-core processor, up to 4GB of RAM, NVIDIA GeForce 8200 and NVIDIA Hybrid SLI graphics. X3200 packs up to 1TB of hard drive and has a blu-ay optical drive.
It offers also a multimedia card reader, an HDMIT port, nine USB 2.0 ports and 7.1-channel audi output."
http://www.cybertheater.com/acer-aspire-x3200-mini-desktop-pc/
"Acer has just come up with its new edition Aspire X3200 Mini Desktop PC. The latest desktop PC supports an AMD Phenom quad-core processor, up to 4GB of RAM, NVIDIA GeForce 8200 and NVIDA Hybrid SLI graphics.
The Aspire X3200 desktop PC supports plenty of excellent features including an HDMI port, a multi-in-one card reader, nine USB 2.0 ports, and 7.1 channel audio support. It comes in a stylish black colored casing and supports advanced technologies.
The latest Aspire X3200 desktop PC incorporates with a multimedia card reader, as well as 1 terabyte of storage capacity. Its built-in NVIDA GeForce 8200 chipset delivers high-intensity graphics and higher system presentation."
http://www.cybertheater.com/aspire-x3200-desktop-and-24-inch-lcd/
"Acer, known as the third largest vendor of PCs in the market, has unveiled its new X3200 Desktop and 24-inch LCD. Both these new products launched by Acer come packed with advanced features. Not only are they space saving but ideal for a complete entertainment experience.
“Offering 64-bit Windows, a Blu-ray drive and significant memory, the Aspire X3200 packs plenty of power for tackling the demands of multitasking and the latest digital entertainment,” said Stephanie Eggert, Senior Manager, Retail Desktop Product Planning for Acer America. “The P244W display’s stunning picture quality and user-friendly design make it a must-have for the home. Users choosing to combine the 24-inch display with the compact desktop, will have an excellent system for enjoying productivity, movies, music and games without taking up a lot of space.”
The new Acer X3200 incorporates Blu-ray Disc Technology, Dolby Home Theater sound and NVIDIA GeForce graphics. It delivers 1080p full HD support and a brilliant 1920 x 1080 resolution. On the other hand, the newly launched Acer P244W 24-inch LCD features SensorTouch technology and a touch-sensing solution.
Acer X3200 and Acer P244W 24-inch LCD are priced at $ 679.99 and $ 339 respectively."
http://shopping.msn.com/specs/acer-aspire-x3200-ef9100a-phenom-x4-9100e-1-8-ghz/itemid1089847235/?itemtext=itemname:acer-aspire-x3200-ef9100a-phenom-x4-9100e-1-8-ghz
Acer Aspire X3200-EF9100A - Phenom X4 9100e 1.8 GHz
http://espn.com.com/desktops/acer-aspire-ax3200-u3600a/4505-3118_7-33345347.html
Acer Aspire AX3200-U3600A
Specifications:
Processor: AMD Phenom X3 8400 (2.1 GHz); RAM installed: 4 GB DDR2 SDRAM; Hard drive: 320 GB Standard;
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So based on this, it seems that the only quad-core CPU "fit" for our X3200 is this particular AMD CPU ---
http://www.amazon.com/Processor-Phenom-Energy-Efficient-Socket/dp/B001CIYQ2W/ref=sr_1_26?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1227534612&sr=8-26
Processor - 1 x AMD Phenom X4 9150e / 1.8 GHz Energy Efficient - Socket AM2+ - L3 2 MB - Box
http://www.amazon.com/Processor-Phenom-Energy-Efficient-Socket/dp/B001CIYQ5E/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1227534711&sr=1-9
Processor - 1 x AMD Phenom X4 9350e / 2 GHz Energy Efficient - Socket AM2+ - L3 2 MB - Box
$181.49 +
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Will the processor be compatible to own domestic/local x3200? baka iba ang specs ng phdm na x3200? Anyways, saan mo binili yung 8400gs mo? how much bro?
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yeah, they mentioned the new x3200 has Phenom x4 but they failed to mention the power supply,it must have upgraded also im sure...i also want to upgrade the works but im so worried the way the LAN area overheating problem,next time u gionna saw theres already a meltdown..comments from the experts are highly appreciated.
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check one of the threads for specs, also 220watts
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So based on this, it seems that the only quad-core CPU "fit" for our X3200 is this particular AMD CPU ---
http://www.amazon.com/Processor-Phenom-Energy-Efficient-Socket/dp/B001CIYQ2W/ref=sr_1_26?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1227534612&sr=8-26
Processor - 1 x AMD Phenom X4 9150e / 1.8 GHz Energy Efficient - Socket AM2+ - L3 2 MB - Box
http://www.amazon.com/Processor-Phenom-Energy-Efficient-Socket/dp/B001CIYQ5E/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1227534711&sr=1-9
Processor - 1 x AMD Phenom X4 9350e / 2 GHz Energy Efficient - Socket AM2+ - L3 2 MB - Box
$181.49 +
If you check AMD's comparative table, this shows that both CPU quad-core models above are only requiring 65watts
http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUResult.aspx (check quad core)
http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUSideBySide.aspx?id=402&id=448&id=450&id=488
http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUDetail.aspx?id=402
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This also shows that the current CPU installed as a default on our local version is a 65watts version...
http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUResult.aspx (choose X2-dual core)
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Will the processor be compatible to own domestic/local x3200? baka iba ang specs ng phdm na x3200? Anyways, saan mo binili yung 8400gs mo? how much bro?
Got it from GH, for only Php 1.8k
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Please try to test the 8400GS playing games. I wonder how will it handle with demanding games. Thanks!
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Will have time for it over the long weekend...
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Got it from GH, for only Php 1.8k
Thanks bro but GH? sorry don't understand? Where is this?
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Such a tight place for the empty slot. I wonder it the fan or heat sink will hit the casing.
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Thanks bro but GH? sorry don't understand? Where is this?
Chess this is like d**ned if you do d**ned if you dont situation Bro. If you want to play games with your machine, the most "effective" option is a low profile 9500GT which is probably like $100, instead of hybrid SLI with a 8400 or 8500. Would anyone be willing to spend an extra 5K pesos to play games? Ang masakit nito, you can buy a very powerful full size graphics card like an HD3870 for about $100 now. - and there's the question of whether the supplied PSU has enough juice to power a 9500GT.
BTW, I dont think any graphics card would solve the issue with that "heavy sample".
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Thanks bro but GH? sorry don't understand? Where is this?
Greenhills (New Virra Mall)
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Such a tight place for the empty slot. I wonder it the fan or heat sink will hit the casing.
are you referring to the extra low profile video card or the upgraded CPU?
for the low profile video card, it fits nicely... i got pics and will try to post some later...
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From this site, the X3200 has several flavors...
http://us.acer.com/public/page9.do?sp=page4&dau34.oid=42001&UserCtxParam=0&GroupCtxParam=0&dctx1=25&CountryISOCtxParam=US&LanguageISOCtxParam=en&ctx3=-1&ctx4=United+States&crc=857090505
Aspire® X3200
Technical specifications
Processor
AMD Phenom™ X4 Quad-Core Processor 9100e
(4 x 512KB L2 cache, 1.8GHz)
or
AMD Phenom™ X3 Triple-Core Processor 8450
(3 x 512KB L2 cache, 2.1GHz)
or
AMD Phenom™ X3 Triple-Core Processor 8400
(3 x 512KB L2 cache, 2.1GHz)
Chipset
NVIDIA® GeForce® 8200
Memory
4GB (2GB installed in each of two memory slots) DDR2 SDRAM
Storage
Up to 640GB* SATA hard drive
Variable-speed Super-Multi drive
or
Variable-speed Super-Multi drive with Labelflash™
or
Variable-speed Blu-ray Disc™ drive / Super-Multi drive combo
Multi-in-one card reader supporting optional CF+™ Microdrive, CompactFlash® I/II, Memory Stick®, Memory Stick Duo™, Memory Stick PRO™, Memory Stick PRO Duo™, MMCmobile™, miniSD™, MultiMediaCard™, Reduced-Size MultiMediaCard (RS-MMC), Secure Digital, xD-Picture Card™, USB 2.0 port or FireWire® (IEEE 1394) port
*When referring to storage capacity, GB stands for one billion bytes and MB stands for one million bytes. Some utilities may indicate varying storage capacities. Total user-accessible capacity may vary depending on operating environments.
Video
Integrated NVIDIA® GeForce® 8200 graphics
or
Discrete NVIDIA® GeForce® 9300GE graphics
VGA and HDMI™ (High-Definition Multimedia Interface™) ports
Aspire® X3200-B3530A: 22" LCD
Audio
Dolby® Home Theater™
Embedded high-definition audio with 5.1-channel audio support
Two external speakers
Headphones, microphone and five audio ports
Interface Ports
RJ-45 LAN
VGA
Headphones
Microphone
HDMI™ (High-Definition Multimedia Interface™)
eSATA
FireWire® (IEEE 1394)
Two PS/2®
Five audio
Nine USB 2.0 (five front, four back)
AX3200-EF9100A only: DVI-D (graphics card), optical SPDIF
AX3200-U3600A, AX3200-U3630A only: SPDIF
Communications
Gigabit LAN
V.92 modem
Included Software
Acer® Arcade Live
Acer® Empowering Technology (eRecovery, ePerformance, eDataSecurity Management)
Adobe® Acrobat® Reader
eSobi™*
Microsoft® Works 8.5 (full version)
Microsoft® Office Home & Student 2007 (60-day trial)
McAfee® Internet Security Suite (60-day trial)
NTI Media Maker™*
AX3200-U3630A, AX3200-U3600A only: Dolby® Home Theater™
*OEM, not full-featured, version.
Drive Bays
One internal 3.5" (occupied)
One external 5.25" (occupied)
AX3200-U3630A only:
Four internal 3.5" (one occupied, three available)
Two external 5.25" (one occupied, one available)
Two external 3.5" (one occupied, one available)
Expansion Slots
One PCI Express® x1 (occupied)
One PCI Express® x16 (one available)
Dimensions
10.4" (265mm) W x 12.4" (315mm) D x 3.9" (100mm) H
User Interface
USB keyboard and optical mouse
Power Supply
220 watts
Limited Warranty*
One-year limited warranty*
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(http://www.filehive.com/files/081124/X3200.jpg)
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Since dq trip ang Vista naginstall ako ng XP professional.. ndi gumagana... hanggang dun lang sya sa loading page tapos magkakaron ng blue screen saying Error... Mga tol help me nmn... pwd b tlg ang XP Professional s X3200...
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I think you have to set the SATA to IDE(via Bios), if you plan to use XP as your OS.
This is what I did with my Laptop,and I'm not sure if the same priniciple applies.
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Kuya Alfie.. dq makita yun cnsbi mo na SATA to IDE s BIOS.. konting tulong nmn.. i'm a noob po kc...
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If you're a newbie with PCs kindly just ask someone(experienced techie) to do it for you.
It's in the Bios of your motherboard, so if you don't know what you're doing; ask somebody who does.
Now if you want to learn, you can read all about it in your Motherboard's manual. ;)
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Since dq trip ang Vista naginstall ako ng XP professional.. ndi gumagana... hanggang dun lang sya sa loading page tapos magkakaron ng blue screen saying Error... Mga tol help me nmn... pwd b tlg ang XP Professional s X3200...
Paki kwento mo how exactly you went through the XP install process.
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nkpnta nmn ako BIOS tapos nagchance nmn ako ng 1st boot device.. nacheck ko nmn lahat s BIOS.. ang problema lang wala tlg un SATA to IDE.. baka meron paraan para nmn magkaron ang BIOS ko nun... wala ako pambayad s techie e.. sensha na, kya nagpipilit nlng ako matuto at magtanung tanung sa inyo...thx :(
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normally installation lang gnwa ko.. set sa bios ng boot 1st boot device tapos sinaksak un XP PRO cd.. den install.. supposed to be gnun lang yun dba... ndi ako umaabot s part na magpapartition na.. nagkakaron na xa ng BLUE screen ERROR message.. puro number un nakasulat e.. d nmn ako marunong magbsa ng gnun... hehe.. since SATA nga yun HD ko tama c kuya alfie n dpat maging IDE un para gumana un XP.. kaso nacheck ko na yun BIOS setup q.. wala ako makita dun na chance SATA to IDE.. :( help pls..
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normally installation lang gnwa ko.. set sa bios ng boot 1st boot device tapos sinaksak un XP PRO cd.. den install.. supposed to be gnun lang yun dba... ndi ako umaabot s part na magpapartition na.. nagkakaron na xa ng BLUE screen ERROR message.. puro number un nakasulat e.. d nmn ako marunong magbsa ng gnun... hehe.. since SATA nga yun HD ko tama c kuya alfie n dpat maging IDE un para gumana un XP.. kaso nacheck ko na yun BIOS setup q.. wala ako makita dun na chance SATA to IDE.. :( help pls..
Kung tama ang intindi ko sa yo, you were not able to go through the installation process fully diba.
Ganito try gawin mo. punta ka muna ulit sa system set-up. Dun so HARD DRIVE CONTROLLER setting, set mo sa "AUTODETECT/SATA" OR EQUIVALENT MEANING - The term "AUTODECT/SATA" might be a DELL standard..Im not sure.. Iisang setting lang yon within system set-up. The default setting of brand PC is usually AUTODETECT/AHCI OR EQUIVALENT TERM. You wont be able to access your hard drive that way and hindi matutuloy ang installation ng OS. Good luck.
Other term for AUTODETECT/SATA is AUTODETECT/ATA.
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When your X3200 was still under Vista, it worked well?
When you attempted to re-install your XP did you re-format or just attempted to re-install on top of Vista? Also, what kind of Windows XP installer are you using? OEM version? Licensed version?
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From this site, the X3200 has several flavors...
http://us.acer.com/public/page9.do?sp=page4&dau34.oid=42001&UserCtxParam=0&GroupCtxParam=0&dctx1=25&CountryISOCtxParam=US&LanguageISOCtxParam=en&ctx3=-1&ctx4=United+States&crc=857090505
Aspire® X3200
Technical specifications
Processor
AMD Phenom™ X4 Quad-Core Processor 9100e
(4 x 512KB L2 cache, 1.8GHz)
or
AMD Phenom™ X3 Triple-Core Processor 8450
(3 x 512KB L2 cache, 2.1GHz)
or
AMD Phenom™ X3 Triple-Core Processor 8400
(3 x 512KB L2 cache, 2.1GHz)
Chipset
NVIDIA® GeForce® 8200
Memory
4GB (2GB installed in each of two memory slots) DDR2 SDRAM
Storage
Up to 640GB* SATA hard drive
Variable-speed Super-Multi drive
or
Variable-speed Super-Multi drive with Labelflash™
or
Variable-speed Blu-ray Disc™ drive / Super-Multi drive combo
Multi-in-one card reader supporting optional CF+™ Microdrive, CompactFlash® I/II, Memory Stick®, Memory Stick Duo™, Memory Stick PRO™, Memory Stick PRO Duo™, MMCmobile™, miniSD™, MultiMediaCard™, Reduced-Size MultiMediaCard (RS-MMC), Secure Digital, xD-Picture Card™, USB 2.0 port or FireWire® (IEEE 1394) port
*When referring to storage capacity, GB stands for one billion bytes and MB stands for one million bytes. Some utilities may indicate varying storage capacities. Total user-accessible capacity may vary depending on operating environments.
Video
Integrated NVIDIA® GeForce® 8200 graphics
or
Discrete NVIDIA® GeForce® 9300GE graphics
VGA and HDMI™ (High-Definition Multimedia Interface™) ports
Aspire® X3200-B3530A: 22" LCD
Audio
Dolby® Home Theater™
Embedded high-definition audio with 5.1-channel audio support
Two external speakers
Headphones, microphone and five audio ports
Interface Ports
RJ-45 LAN
VGA
Headphones
Microphone
HDMI™ (High-Definition Multimedia Interface™)
eSATA
FireWire® (IEEE 1394)
Two PS/2®
Five audio
Nine USB 2.0 (five front, four back)
AX3200-EF9100A only: DVI-D (graphics card), optical SPDIF
AX3200-U3600A, AX3200-U3630A only: SPDIF
Communications
Gigabit LAN
V.92 modem
Included Software
Acer® Arcade Live
Acer® Empowering Technology (eRecovery, ePerformance, eDataSecurity Management)
Adobe® Acrobat® Reader
eSobi™*
Microsoft® Works 8.5 (full version)
Microsoft® Office Home & Student 2007 (60-day trial)
McAfee® Internet Security Suite (60-day trial)
NTI Media Maker™*
AX3200-U3630A, AX3200-U3600A only: Dolby® Home Theater™
*OEM, not full-featured, version.
Drive Bays
One internal 3.5" (occupied)
One external 5.25" (occupied)
AX3200-U3630A only:
Four internal 3.5" (one occupied, three available)
Two external 5.25" (one occupied, one available)
Two external 3.5" (one occupied, one available)
Expansion Slots
One PCI Express® x1 (occupied)
One PCI Express® x16 (one available)
Dimensions
10.4" (265mm) W x 12.4" (315mm) D x 3.9" (100mm) H
User Interface
USB keyboard and optical mouse
Power Supply
220 watts
Limited Warranty*
One-year limited warranty*
Wow, so upgradable pala ang x3200 natin hanggang quadcore AMD. Nice!
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Wow, so upgradable pala ang x3200 natin hanggang quadcore AMD. Nice!
I think it is... but you break your warranty and you have to do it knowing you upgrade at your own risk... in my case, I am doing it for the challenge of being able to do so and also as a bonus, if it works, make this baby more productive... however, the risk is significantly higher since I am doing it myself... the Acer hotline has not really been helpful...
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Subject: CPU Upgrade for the X3200 [Incident: 081124-00abcd]
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Discussion Thread
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Response (XXXXXX Z.) - 11/25/2008 02:01 AM
Thank you for contacting Acer America. I’ll be happy to assist you. Since we have a large variety of products, the easiest way to compare them is to visit our website. Please visit http://www.acer.com/us (if you are in the US) or http://www.acer.ca (if you are in Canada). If you have further questions, after reviewing them online, you may call the presales department. Presales provides technical and warranty information for future customers. For assistance with this please call the Presales information line at 1-800-571-2237. Hours of operation are 8am-6pm CST, Mon-Fri. I hope this was helpful.
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Customer (customer-name-here) - 11/24/2008 10:27 PM
Hi !
I have an Acer X3200 and noticed that US models have the quad-core AMD CPU ( AMD Phenom™ X4 Quad-Core Processor 9100e(4 x 512KB L2 cache, 1.8GHz) )
Is it possible then to have dual-core AMD CPU upgrade updated upward to this model using the same X3200 unit?
Question Reference #081124-00abcd
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Escalation Level: Updated 2 Hr
Product Level 1: Desktop
Product Level 2: Aspire
Product Level 3: Aspire X3200
Date Created: 11/24/2008 10:27 PM
Last Updated: 11/25/2008 02:01 AM
Status: Solved
Date Purchased: 10/25/2008
Operating System: Windows Vista
Serial Number
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normally installation lang gnwa ko.. set sa bios ng boot 1st boot device tapos sinaksak un XP PRO cd.. den install.. supposed to be gnun lang yun dba... ndi ako umaabot s part na magpapartition na.. nagkakaron na xa ng BLUE screen ERROR message.. puro number un nakasulat e.. d nmn ako marunong magbsa ng gnun... hehe.. since SATA nga yun HD ko tama c kuya alfie n dpat maging IDE un para gumana un XP.. kaso nacheck ko na yun BIOS setup q.. wala ako makita dun na chance SATA to IDE.. :( help pls..
I checked mine, once I got home, the MoBo Bios is not the same as my Acer Laptop and the HDD does not have the IDE config, so that means this is probably for Vista OS only. :-\
I've heard that some branded pc's are designed specifically for Vista, so it's probably best that you just repair back your Vista(hopefully you burned a recovery disc prior to this exercise)..... :P
or try this...
Get another HDD formatted and partitioned.
Change the HDD.(either physical or if you have an enclosure with esata, incorporate...then go bios boot via optical, the boot will then ask where to install, then choose the newly formatted HDD)
Do a clean install...PRAY it works. :o
(reason for this is that I noticed the HDD is incorporated within a 4.5G space for the Vista OS as well as the Acer software,and this might be the one causing the error)
Other than this I don't know what else to do. ???
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Looks like we have to source for the 65watts quad-core AMD Phenom X4 9100eCPU somewhere else since it is only for OEM use...
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http://forum.xcpus.com/xtreme-news/12217-amd-phenom-x4-9100e-review.html
Quote:
Originally Posted by beerandcandy
is there a place to buy one? cant find it for sale
Nowhere
Quote:
Originally Posted by THG
For the time being, the Phenom X4 9100e will only be offered to OEMs; this decision is based on the faulty B2 stepping of the CPU. AMD wants to make sure that retail buyers are only offered Phenom CPUs without any TLB problems. Thus, the Phenom X4 9150e will be the first low-power version that will be sold to the general public. In the USA, PC systems with X4 9100e are already on the shelves.
Nevertheless, the low-power quad core may surface in some shops. This would not be the first time that CPUs intended exclusively for OEM hit the retail market.
AMD quotes a price of US$ 200 (approximately EUR 130) for the Phenom X4 9100e/9150e.
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The ff. refers to the 65watts Phenom X4 Quad-core CPU as the enabler for playing games a PC with this particular CPU with an overclock capability... BUT, price is a key consideration...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-phenom-x4,1935.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-phenom-x4,1935-2.html
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since wala akong makitang SATA to IDE sa BIOS setup ko natry ko na yun diskette na Via RADI drivers... when installing OS XPPRO i keep pushing F6 para magamit na yun driver n nadownload.. oo akala ko okey na xa hanggng s windows starting to setup, again, hindi ulit umabot s format.. dalawang klase n nagwa ko either papatungan yun vista/whole hdd and reformat muna yun full HDD.. same thing.. nagkakaron pa din ng error.. dalawang CD na nagamit ko.. XP HOME, XP professional... tulungan nyo nmn ako ow.. kahapon pq straight nakatutok sa pc and googling up to search for an answer just to install the XP version for x3200..
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since wala akong makitang SATA to IDE sa BIOS setup ko natry ko na yun diskette na Via RADI drivers... when installing OS XPPRO i keep pushing F6 para magamit na yun driver n nadownload.. oo akala ko okey na xa hanggng s windows starting to setup, again, hindi ulit umabot s format.. dalawang klase n nagwa ko either papatungan yun vista/whole hdd and reformat muna yun full HDD.. same thing.. nagkakaron pa din ng error.. dalawang CD na nagamit ko.. XP HOME, XP professional... tulungan nyo nmn ako ow.. kahapon pq straight nakatutok sa pc and googling up to search for an answer just to install the XP version for x3200..
Hijo, basahin mo ulit yung post ko sa taas. I have encountered your error so many times with other brands. Pati mga technician sa Cyberzone di nila alam eto with brand PCs. Ang problem mo is due to wrong drive controller setting in the BIOS. You want to set it to ATA or SATA properly. You are NOT looking for IDE setting because your PC is SATA. If you dont set it properly, hindi tutuloy ang install mo ng OS kahit anong gawin mong F6 or whatever - ni hindi ka lalagpas dun sa format.
Ganito gawin mo, pasok ka ulit sa system set-up and then hanapin mo yung current setting ng drive controller. Scroll through all the pages. It can look something like RAID/AUTODETECT/xxxxxxx - then isulat mo dito sa thread yung available options -usually 2 or 3 options ang available depending sa model ng PC mo.
Kung ayaw mong maniwala, try to google about RAID/AUTODETECT/ATA and RAID/AUTODETECT/AHCI
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Clondakin- Tinignan ko rin ang akin X3200, walang drive controller iyun' MoBo mukhang naka-autodetect na siya, di tulad nang ibang mga MoBo, siguro ang MoBo na ito ay design lang para sa Vista, may naka-enkwento na akong Laptop na ganyan, ACER din' na di' pwedeng install ang XP. :P
Siguro ang dapat na ituro mo sa kanya kung saan madalas makita iyun' sina-sabi mong autodetect.
Pero ako ay walang talagang makita. :-[
Hindi ko rin alam kung may flash upgrade O' downgrade ang MoBo na ito'. ???
goodguy939, irestore mo na ang Vista mo, tutal, da-dating naman ang panahon lahat eh' Vista na, mabuti rin' mag -sanany ka na, baka ma-maya, tuluyan pang bumigay ang X3200 mo, sayang naman, pag nagkataon wala na ang warranty mo. :'( :-\
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since wala akong makitang SATA to IDE sa BIOS setup ko natry ko na yun diskette na Via RADI drivers... when installing OS XPPRO i keep pushing F6 para magamit na yun driver n nadownload.. oo akala ko okey na xa hanggng s windows starting to setup, again, hindi ulit umabot s format.. dalawang klase n nagwa ko either papatungan yun vista/whole hdd and reformat muna yun full HDD.. same thing.. nagkakaron pa din ng error.. dalawang CD na nagamit ko.. XP HOME, XP professional... tulungan nyo nmn ako ow.. kahapon pq straight nakatutok sa pc and googling up to search for an answer just to install the XP version for x3200..
goodguy939- turo ito' nang techie dito sa opis, so wag mo akong si-sihin. ;)
1) Restart, go F8
2) Choose MSDOS
3) type system.ini
4) look for Ide
5) save
6) refresh
afterwhich try again, hope this works. ;)
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In the BIOS Set-Up, the heading is usually "SATA Operation". So if the ACER System Set-up menu does not show that option, it is autodetect indeed.
However in goodguy's case, when installing XP SP2 CD, apparently the driver for the hard drive controller is not able to be "auto-detected." The implication is, the CORRECT driver for ACER's particular hardware is not included in his XP CD. Since this is a brand PC with legit Vista, it should have the restore disk that contains that correct driver. So the easiest way out is to restore Vista.
Kung adventurous si goodguy, he can try to find the CORRECT hard drive controller (if you can identify that file sa recovery disk provided with your PC, or consult with ACER), and slipstream that file into the XP Install CD, or, save that appropriate driver into a floppy and install separately using F6 - then tsaka palang mag-reinstall ng XP. Too much headache. Just go back to Vista.
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guys, meron na ba nagtry mag upgrade ng x3200 with a bluray drive? kaya ba with the current processor? is this a practical setup to have a bluray HTPC player?
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guys, meron na ba nagtry mag upgrade ng x3200 with a bluray drive? kaya ba with the current processor? is this a practical setup to have a bluray HTPC player?
The processor of the X3200 should be able to handle BD since a member has already tested his X3200 on a very heavy content without GPU assistance - and it passed.
The questionable component is the on-board video. BD or HD DVD playback need hardware acceleration. BD drives usually come packaged with PowerDVD. The last time I checked, mimimum DISCRETE graphics card requirement is a 7600GT. It was OK with my HD DVD but a little big sluggish on fast forward. Is the on-board graphics of this Acer as powerful as a 7600GT? Definitely not in terms of 3D power as 7600GT can run even 3D games acceptably well.
What does "practical set-up" mean exactly?
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thanks for your reply. by practical i meant if i wanted an HTPC and a bluray player is it better to have an HTPC with bluray-drive or a separate HTPC and a standalone bluray player?
oh and im not sure i understood your reply. you mean that bottomline the x3200 wont be able to play bluray HD movies unless the videocard is upgraded? i remember seeing a lot of threads about adding another card that works together with the onboard. will this work?
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thanks for your reply. by practical i meant if i wanted an HTPC and a bluray player is it better to have an HTPC with bluray-drive or a separate HTPC and a standalone bluray player?
oh and im not sure i understood your reply. you mean that bottomline the x3200 wont be able to play bluray HD movies unless the videocard is upgraded? i remember seeing a lot of threads about adding another card that works together with the onboard. will this work?
You mean the hybrid SLI between the on-board graphics and a discrete 8400GT or 8500GT? - you better check out if this will result in a card superior to a single 7600GT. There is good hope because 8xxx series Nvidias have improved high def video engine (except for the 8800GT which is optimized for 3D gaming). You'll have better chances if you simply insert a discrete 9500GT low profile but make sure that you're PSU has enough juice to run it. A quick check at PowerDVD's minimum system requirements is a must. Kung on-board graphics lang - dont expect too much on BD playback. It might not even run at all - but that's just a guess.
Kung powerful ang HTPC ko, I would put whatever accessory is available provided Im interested in it. My desktops meet the required specs, but Im not interested in a BD drive at all. I would rather have an NMT ..ahihihihi
Pero if ever Id be wanting a BD player, I would rather have a standalone BD player or PS3 para derechong kabit sa HDTV in another room.
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Thanks thanks! i guess the acer is still a long shot from doubling as a BD player. anyway, the truth is, like you im not that interested with the BD but i just had this thought that in the very near future, BD's will be very affordable. anyway, i guess by that time, the BD players will be much cheaper as well.
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Yeh!!!...when the Blu ray take over, then it's about time to built a new HTPC....possibly a Quadcore,or if feasible a Multicore, with DDR3 chips Motherboard and Videocard and 8 gigs of RAM,an dof course the Blu ray Writer.
Yes for standalone players, maybe the DVD is here to stay,however, I believe that it's only a matter of time before we start using the bluray writers on pur PCs. ;)
We just cannot ignore the potential of the 25g single layered storage material. ;D
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I am just thinking that if local Acer office released the souped-up US / UK version of X3200, we should have received the quad-core AMD and BD for a price equivalent of USD$ 700 or roughly around Php 35k without LCD yet.
Which means from the price point of Php 19k, the 16k is the cost spread for the X4 phenom, upgraded video capability and BD drive, do you think we would have bought that model instead?
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JackRyan my friend, if that is the price, I'd go Intel instead. ;) ;D
The only reason , I bought the X3200 is because of it's price and seemingly free OS at that. :P
BTW my friend, is the SLI bridge included with the 8400 ?
Thanks for your input. ;)
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I know, but the US/UK config has Vista Premium installed... which brings me to the other question, has anyone upgraded their OS to the Premium version --- legit or not... :-)
As for the 8400GS, it does but not sure if I am really getting more mileage out of the combo unless I guess use some kind of heavy video audit or load one of those fancy games... will try this out this coming long weekend... and will ask my kid to play games for me on that rig.
One of my guys in HK is sourcing the quad-core CPU for me and will probably take the plunge if the price is not that expensive... but not my priority right now... my aquarium hobby is taking some demand on my time particularly that I am able to lure Master Jojo DIY fame into that hobby now... :)
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kuya Clondalkin wala talaga s system setup ko yun cnsbi mo na RAID/AUTODETECT/ATA and RAID/AUTODETECT/AHCI. madami na po akong gnwang trial and error.. also natry ko na din yun Nlite.. i followed instructions and downloaded the correct drivers and etc., pero dun p din bagsak ko sa ERROR na ndi man lang umabot s format na ng HDD. tumawag n nga ako s Villman.. gnun din ang cnb nilang paraan saken, get drivers from net and put it in a flash memory and use F6 while installing XpPRo.. sabi nmn ni kuya Alfie, pagtyagaan ko nlng dw since nxt time dw VISTA na lahat, i do not agree wid that coz released n un windows 7. e cympre new interface un so ndi ko muna sinusubukan.. i'l stick p din s mass known OS w/c is XPPRO or XPHOME. Until now, yeap! trying to be adventurous para kpag nalaman ko nmn yun sagot dito ishashare ko din s mga kapwa noobies naten na user ng x3200..that's the good side of me.. :) ... so until then mga kuya... magrurun pq ng mga test and everything.. phoenix is my BIOS.. i already upgraded it pero ganun pa din.. walang selection of SATA to whatever na pwd gawin.. xD hehe.. salamat po ulit... :)
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at last nakapaginstall din ng XP.. all i need lang pla is a modified version ng driver mismo ng gnwa ng acer.. pero sad to say after tons of consecutive trial and errors.. when loading XP.. dun nmn nagkakaerror... hayy.... acer drivers really sucks... :( ...hintay nlng cgro ako ng mga ilang months para mkgwa un iba ng solutions bout it... hoping that one day i'll run XP on my x3200... mga kuya e2 nga pla itry nyo s pc nyo, yan yun driver n cnsbi q... http://rs447.rapidshare.com/files/165352230/sata_ide.zip... sna kpag napagtripan nyo ihunt un answer for this dem problem pashare nmn... thx... :)
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Ditch XP, Vista, we should expect more from the upcoming Windows 7 ;D ;D ;D ;
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It's now definite, our X3200 was specifically configured for the Vista OS. :P
I was buying some office stuff at one of the stores in Gilmore, and I asked one of the techies who were responsible for the Branded PC sales (they're selling the X3200,forgot the name of the store),anyway, he said they "tried everything, including sending the X3200 to the technical people of Acer,and all failed", and he surmised that the configuration was due to a compatibility issue.
He added...."Nag Blue screen ka lang ano'"
So goodguy939, sabi nga ni Clondakin:Too much headache. Just go back to Vista. ;)
BTW....they're also not sure if our system will work with Windows 7
Kaya pala mura binenta sa atin'. :P :-[
I also looked for the 8400 GS, goes for 1.750 at PC Options,but there's no SLI bridge included.
To the members who bought the 8400 kindly share how you got the SLI bridge.
Thanks ;)
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It's now definite, our X3200 was specifically configured for the Vista OS. :P
also looked for the 8400 GS, goes for 1.750 at PC Options,but there's no SLI bridge included.
To the members who bought the 8400 kindly share how you got the SLI bridge.
I think Microsoft bullied Acer to lock the hardware to Vista, especially since Microsoft has stopped official marketing of XP.
In the box of the 8400GS, does it mention anything about that card being SLI ready or something? I thought I didnt see it on an 8400 but saw it on the 8500 box. But if the graphics card has the SLI connecting port at the top, then SLI should be possible.
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I didn't see it since I didn't get one, I just took the post of Geren's as true, since JackRyan also got one.
What I'm planing to do is to use use my recovery disc on a 500G capacity HDD...partitioned to 2.3G each. It's such a hassle to keep on attaching the usb or the esata. ;)
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Hi Guys... looks like the cheapy 8400 can't hack it or at least the Palit branded one (red) that I got for Php 1.7k, at least if I base it on the absence of the connector that you are describing here (I also did not see any other brand / model that can do low profile at least in Greenhills/VM as most of them are full boards)
Anyway, if you download the Nvidi 8400 driver from this link - http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x86_178.24_whql.html
New in Version 178.24:
Adds support for newly-released GeForce 9-series motherboard GPUs.
Includes several application compatibility fixes. Please read the release documentation for more details.
Release 178 Highlights:
WHQL-certified driver for GeForce 6-series, 7-series, 8-series, 9-series, and 200-series GPUs.
Adds support for GeForce 9800 GTX+, 9800 GT, 9500 GT and 9400 GT GPUs.
Adds support for NVIDIA PhysX acceleration on all GeForce 8-series, 9-series and 200-series GPUs with a minimum of 256MB dedicated graphics memory (this driver package installs NVIDIA PhysX System Software v8.09.04).
Experience GPU PhysX acceleration in several full games and demos today by downloading the GeForce Power Pack.
Adds support for 2-way and 3-way NVIDIA SLI technology with GeForce GTX 200-series GPUs on Intel® D5400XS motherboards.
Supports single GPU and NVIDIA SLI™ technology on DirectX 9, DirectX 10, and OpenGL, including 3-way and Quad SLI technology.
Supports CUDA™.
Supports NVIDIA GeForce 3D Stereo Technology.
Supports Folding@home distributing computing application. Download the high performance client for NVIDIA GPUs here and join the NVIDIA team: #131015.
Supports GPU overclocking and temperature monitoring by installing NVIDIA System Tools software.
Includes several 3D application performance improvements. The following are examples of improvements measured with v178.24 WHQL versus v175.19 WHQL driver:
Single GPU increases up to 11% in 3DMark Vantage (performance preset)
Single GPU increases up to 11% in Assassin's Creed DX10
Single GPU increases up to 15% in Bioshock DX10
Single GPU increases up to 15% in Call of Duty 4
Single GPU increases up to 8% in Enemy Territory: Quake Wars
2-way SLI increases up to 7% in Bioshock DX10
2-way SLI increases up to 10% in Company of Heroes: Opposing Fronts DX10
2-way SLI increases up to 12% in Enemy Territory: Quake Wars
2-way SLI increases up to 10% in World in Conflict DX10
Includes numerous 3D application compatibility fixes. Please read the release notes for more information on product support, features, driver fixes and known compatibility issues.
Users without US English operating systems can select their language and download the International driver here.
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GeForce 6200 A-LE
GeForce 6200
GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
GeForce 6150 LE
GeForce 6150
GeForce 6100 nForce 420
GeForce 6100 nForce 405
GeForce 6100 nForce 400
GeForce 6100
Release Notes (v178.24)
Control Panel User's Guide
On the other hand, the Palit URL for the card I got does not mention it nor does the box itself ---
http://www.palit.com.tw/main/vgapro.php?id=769
Specifications Bus interface: PCI Express
Memory: 512MB
Memory Interface: 64 bit
RAMDACs: 400 MHz
NVIDIA® unified architecture with GigaThread™ technology
Full Microsoft® DirectX® 10 Shader Model 4.0 support
16x full-screen anti-aliasing
True 128-bit floating point high dynamic-range (HDR) lighting
NVIDIA® Quantum Effects™ physics processing technology
One single-link DVI output supports one 1920x1200 resolution display
NVIDIA® PureVideo™ HD technology
HDCP capable
OpenGL® 2.1 support
NVIDIA ForceWare® Unified Driver Architecture (UDA)
NVIDIA® Lumenex™ Engine
Built for Microsoft® Windows Vista™
Oh well... :-) but braving to install it myself and taking out the warranty sticker with a hair dryer was an interesting experience...
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I think Microsoft bullied Acer to lock the hardware to Vista, especially since Microsoft has stopped official marketing of XP.
In the box of the 8400GS, does it mention anything about that card being SLI ready or something? I thought I didnt see it on an 8400 but saw it on the 8500 box. But if the graphics card has the SLI connecting port at the top, then SLI should be possible.
I think that this brand / model should be upward compatible to Win7 (but of course, by then quad core will be the mainstream set-ups). I base this statement more on the fact that the US / UK equivalent of this model should be able to handle Win7 with its quad-core default CPU installed.
In a number of cases, branded PC's are optimized (nowadays) for Vista and seldom would a brand allow its customers to downgrade back to Windows XP by releasing device drivers for that particular OS...
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Windows 7 anyone? ;D
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/
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The green one on its box, there was a Nvidia SLI ready on it. At Festival Mall, specifically octagon computer shop. It sells at 1850 pesos.
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may benefit din ba itong 8400GS upgrade kung HTPC lang ang gamit? or unnecessary? if yes, what are the benefits for HTPC use?
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The green one on its box, there was a Nvidia SLI ready on it. At Festival Mall, specifically octagon computer shop. It sells at 1850 pesos.
Interesting... what brand was that?
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I've just finished changing my original 160Gig Hard Drive to a partitioned 500Gig.
I used my recovery CD(well, I'm just anxious that it might not work after a year), and it worked out fine.
What I initially did was to transfer all my files in another HDD and at the partitioned Data of the original HDD.
These are the things I found out:
1) It's not as simple as it looks, the compact case has so limited space and the design was made specifically for this setup, hence, there's no room for other PCI and the only other expansion is for the low profile video card, I also didn't see any SLI bridge (the tech people told me, it's incorporated in the MoBo).
If you'll change the HDD, you'll have to carefully pry the front panel,and be gentle as it's made of plastic and the clamps might give in if your'e not careful.
It's also a marvel to notice the architecture done since they made use of a clamp and a single screw, it's different though for the HDD, you'll have to take off all four on the dorsal surface at that.
To change would normally take 35 to 40 minute, depending on how rough or gentle you are.
Interesting part is that the HDD and the DVD Writer is both from Hitachi, of course, China made.
2) Upon installing, the interesting part is that the Mo Bo showed both NVDIA & would you believe INTEL Chips, I really can't believe it myself, although the tech person from Acer told that to me before, that it had Intel parts,although, I felt embarrassed that I believed him when a fellow member here corrected me stating that "Intel won't be caught supply chips..etc or to that effect)...anyway, I saw it and I don't know it I just misinterpreted it.
3) I thought since this was a recovery Image it'll bring me back to my filled setup, but I was wrong, it bought me back to the factory settings including the hassle Mcaffe Anti Virus which I again have to uninstall.
4) I find my PC now more responsive than before, since I was able to change the HDD to a Seagate 32mb(they claimed) 500Gig, as compared to the Hitachi regular HDD.
5) I decided to go ahead with this rather than upgrading the video card since I feel that this is more worthwhile, and now I can store some movies for a longer time on my HDD, rather than utilizing my external HDDs for watching movies.
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I can't find a local seller of the 65watts quad-core AMD and instead found it on Amazon.com...
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B001CIYQ5E/ref=ord_cart_shr?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=A256KD9C1BPC5J&v=glance
I'll be doing more research before I order this online...
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may benefit din ba itong 8400GS upgrade kung HTPC lang ang gamit? or unnecessary? if yes, what are the benefits for HTPC use?
What's the complete specs of the built-in graphics board?
If anything, the 8400GS on its own has the improved high def video engine which should be advantageous for applications that can utilize hardware acceleration. Best application would be original BD or HD DVD playback through the PC via PowerDVD. Im not certain if newer on-board graphics can actually handle this kind of app, or a discrete card is still required.
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Hi Guys... looks like the cheapy 8400 can't hack it or at least the Palit branded one (red) that I got for Php 1.7k, at least if I base it on the absence of the connector that you are describing here (I also did not see any other brand / model that can do low profile at least in Greenhills/VM as most of them are full boards)
There is no connector needed for the 8400GS. After inserting the 8400 card. Do not plug the monitor into the new card. Plug it to the original 8200 vga port of the unit. Enable Hybrid Setting to auto on the BIOS. If successful, you will see a new icon on the system tray to use for turning on/off Boost performance.
According to my niece( a gamer unlike me), there is a noticeable improvement with regards to World of Warcraft (DOTA) game. It is more responsive.
P.S. Couldn't reply earlier as i was out of town for 2 days.
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Geren, Thanks for your reply, I was hoping that the SLI bridge ( could not find one :'( ) is not needed, now I'll probably get one too. ;D
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Geren, I connected my monitor to the 8400GS... so I should re-connect it back to the main board outlet right? thanks for the advice... btw, I used the red one 8400GS Palit brand, will this be good enough?
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Interesting... what brand was that?
Bro Palit. I saw the one with red PCB and the green PCB. I don't know technically the difference of one to another except for the colors of board....
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Bro Palit. I saw the one with red PCB and the green PCB. I don't know technically the difference of one to another except for the colors of board....
This is the same one that I got... the red one has an active fan and also an HDMI out... not sure of the green one as I did not see one... how much did you get your's? Mine has 512mb...
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Geren, I connected my monitor to the 8400GS... so I should re-connect it back to the main board outlet right? thanks for the advice... btw, I used the red one 8400GS Palit brand, will this be good enough?
Yep, the monitor should be connected to the main board outlet. The same goes true for the hdmi port if you should use it. You should be able to see a green icon on the system tray once you start Vista. Check also the Bios Setting. The hybrid sli should be set to auto.
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Thanks...
Btw, stumbled on this site --- (this one has XP based recovery disk for the X3200)
http://www.user-guides.co.uk/asp/search.asp?keywords=Aspire+X3200&recor=1
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JackRyan, sabi sa site na ito' naka XP na raw iyun' X3200, for recovery na lang...... :P
ang problema natin dito sa pinas eh' ayaw nga mag install. :P :'(
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JackRyan, sabi sa site na ito' naka XP na raw iyun' X3200, for recovery na lang...... :P
ang problema natin dito sa pinas eh' ayaw nga mag install. :P :'(
And di siya "free" rin... pero, here's the thing, I re-installed my Vista image on the X3200 using the recovery partition of Acer for Vista and it works... (not sure if it keeps a counter of re-installs or something) but, I was thinking that for the same principle, if you use the XP recovery it will re-install a fresh XP image on the X3200... but not really sure... what is proves though is that there are X3200's out there that are already successfully running on XP, right? ;D
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I installed a Palit 8400GS 512mb Video card and configured the SLI hybrid, I didn't bother to install the driver for I believe the onboard 8200 runs on the same driver.
I was able to install an original Call Of Duty:World At War game,and when specs were lowered such as the antialiasing performance became adequate. :)
I would have favored the game being installed in our gaming rig, with XP as the OS, armed with a 3.0 dual core and 9600 GT Video Card. however, it just won't run, and only the X3200 was able to adequately install it, I don't know what's wrong with my other rig, but it simply does not seem to get to start. I called Data Blitz for support, and hopefully they can find a solution. ::)
So presently, I just have no access to my X3200, since my kids have taken over. :P :-[
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Alfie, did you use the same red version of the Palit 8400GS card? Did you also change the BIOS setting as recommended earlier by Geren? TIA
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JackRyan, Yes....maybe we have the same 8400gs,and immediately went into the bios and changed it.
Actually what I did was to initially go to the bios,and I saw that the SLI was already in auto, however,when I installed it, nothing happened, so I went back to the bios,and it was only then that the hardware was detected and it disabled the sli auto, so I set it again to auto and saved it,after which the sli hybrid booster went into action.
BTW...I was trying to call you on your mobile yesterday,but all it said was the number's unavaliable.
did you changed numbers? I'd appreciate it if you send me your new number, to my old number, which is still the same since we started our exchanges here in PinoyDVD. ;) ;D
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thanks sa info sirs....ang galing ng support dito..
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Hey Alfie, yep, I switched from Globe to Smart number and along the way I clobbered my address list... which wasn't a smart move, I think at all... so I've sent you my new mobile number via pm :-)
Mine is detected in Vista, but I cannot set it on BIOS... which I find quite strange.
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Actually what I did was to initially go to the bios,and I saw that the SLI was already in auto, however,when I installed it, nothing happened, so I went back to the bios,and it was only then that the hardware was detected and it disabled the sli auto, so I set it again to auto and saved it,after which the sli hybrid booster went into action.
Alfie, my bios still does not detect the 8400gs on bios, however, vista sees it but dont think i have sli support... :-(
I installed 4gb memory, but only 3 gb gets seen by vista.
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You'll have to activate it, go to the sli, press enter, then choose auto ;)
It should be there we have the same unit ;)
Here's the steps:
1) restart PC, hit Del
2) You should get to the MoBO Bios
3) Look for Chipset, enter
4) SLI is right there, configure
5) Hit F10 or save and exit
Enjoy your hybrid SLI
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Alfie, thanks for the tips. I got it working by unplugging the 8400GS card and setting the bios set-up to clear nvram configuration so after a reboot and shutdown, and then re-installed the card, and it now sees the card at bios level and then now the SLI field becomes configurable and set it up as AUTO. Finally, Vista boot-up also sensed the card and helped improved over-all system Vista rating by a few points.
I still think that for Php 1.7k-1.8k card, it is still worth it. :_)
(I upgraded the memory to 4gb earlier and will upgrade the harddrive to a larger one this coming weekend...)
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Sirs/Gurus, Have any updated their Vista Home basic OS to Vista Ultimate?
For 1080p playback, some 1080p movies can be played smoothly but some also stutters and most of the time audio plays faster than the video, may i know what right combinations of codecs to use so that synchronization of video and audio are the same.....
Thanks in advance...
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will Geforce 8500Gt fit in the acer x3200? geforce 8500 is better than the 8400 so i think using 8500 on this board would make it just as fast as an 8600GT. do you guys know what power supply does this pc have?
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I just saw in the nvidia sight that 8500GT has geforce boost. anyone tried it on this mobo?
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I actually preferred the 8500,however, the ones available at RSun and at the various regular stores in Gilmore don't have the Low Profile Variant. :P
(per the NVIDIA website, they do have the low profile variant,but I yet have to see one,and I'll probably buy the 8500 or the 9500 if the low profile variant comes along)
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will Geforce 8500Gt fit in the acer x3200? geforce 8500 is better than the 8400 so i think using 8500 on this board would make it just as fast as an 8600GT. do you guys know what power supply does this pc have?
350watts...however, the 8500 will still do since they don't need an extrenal power supply.( I was shown one at RSun) ;)
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do you think i could insert an 8600GT? what is the low profile variant of 8500GT? is the standard 8500GT ok?
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If you own an Acer X3200 and familiar with Video Cards and,more so.... had experience installing one yourself, you know what I'm talking about....otherwise, either google the products you're asking about or better still....just bring your X3200 to your favorite PC Shop and let them decide what is the most apt video card they have in store.
BTW....somebody posted about the 9500 low profile before.....just read the previous posts.
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did someone in this thread already lost their warranty because of adding components? do you think this pc is durable enough to lose the warranty?
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How long ang clearance for graphics card ng ACER? The 9xxx series Nvidias are pretty long, kahit na yung low profile na 9500.
I havent seen a low profile 8600GT.
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As far as I know, only the 8400, 8500 and 9500 have a low profile variant (although I have yet to see the 8500 & 9500 low profile, it's just that someone posted a link signifying that it exists)..........and YES....it's just silly to have a low profile variant for the 8600GTS, it's specifically for gaming, thus the chips used are high end and you'll need a larger fan and cooling system for this.
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I have called PC gilmore and they said they have low profile variant of 8500GT for the acer aspire x3200 they said i would lose my warranty. It costs 2200 only for 512MB memory
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I have called PC gilmore and they said they have low profile variant of 8500GT for the acer aspire x3200 they said i would lose my warranty. It costs 2200 only for 512MB memory
I bought my acer at PC Gilmore. I asked them to upgrade my ram to 4 GB. They never mentioned about any voided warranty. The acer representative was also there. The technician just removed the back cover thereby destroying the acer warranty seal. They didn't reseal the unit, but as far as I'm concerned, my warranty still holds. Maybe you could talk to an ACER Representative regarding this.
What good is there in buying a unit having a PCI-e slot when you can't use it?
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I have called PC gilmore and they said they have low profile variant of 8500GT for the acer aspire x3200 they said i would lose my warranty. It costs 2200 only for 512MB memory
Lucky you...what branch?.......it's affordable, I can always use the 8400 in my other PC.
BTW...just like what Geren stated, you'll not lose the warranty, since in my case I bought mine at Trend Micro during the BPI madness,and they themselves encouraged me to upgrade my RAM to 3 Gigs, and they just pulled out the warranty sticker,and showed me how to replace the RAM (complicated design,hence was given the step by step process since the tech considered that I might modify it myself someday), he didn't bother to put another sticker,and when I got home, the Optical drive was not recognized buyt had power,so I called them up,and he said, that he probably forgot to place back the SATA conduit and just asked me to place it back,and asssured me that the warranty still exists....BTW, when we upgraded the RAM, the ACER people were also ther assisting and remarking how complicated the architecture of their product was.
I think, just in case something happens, all you have to do is bring your unit to PC Gilmore and have them install the video card for you. ;)
BTW make sure it's low profile variant,(very obvious, it'll fit into your ACER) since I was also told of the same thing in one of the PC shops in Gilmore only to be presented with a full sized Videocard MoBo. :-[
Another thing, I noticed in your previous post that you're expectinng the 8500 together with the 8200 will approximate the 8600GT, think again..., the reason the 8600GT has a price much higher than the ones we have is because of the chips incorpoarted in it, I sincerely doubt that the 8500 can approximate it's capability. :P
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I bought my acer at PC Gilmore. I asked them to upgrade my ram to 4 GB. They never mentioned about any voided warranty. The acer representative was also there. The technician just removed the back cover thereby destroying the acer warranty seal. They didn't reseal the unit, but as far as I'm concerned, my warranty still holds. Maybe you could talk to an ACER Representative regarding this.
What good is there in buying a unit having a PCI-e slot when you can't use it?
so they replaced the stock 1gb with 2 - 2gb memory?
im actually planning to install an extra 2gb for my x3200, and acer in mega told me that the unit would still hold its warranty.
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ACER in Mega is owned by Vilman.
In my case, since I know how to deal with the set-up.....What I did is also upgrgade my HDD to a 500Gig 32mb HDD partitioned to 2 238Gig, since the 70/70 partitioned Hitachi HDD is just to limited for me, now this I think will probably void the warranty just in case I won't be able to put it back if something happens to my unit's MoBo.(still keeping my original HDD,BTW,everything has an ACER tape on it,and that's where the real warranty lies) ;) ;D
In a branded PC, the ones that have a year's warranty are the MoBo, Hitachi 160 G 8mb HDD, Optical Drive(Hitachi also for the Acer), 1 gig Stock RAM,and Power Supply. If you'll analyze and come to think of it, with the exception of the MoBo, everything is affordable and easily replaceable. So if you'll think of upgrading against losing the warranty, I'd go for an upgrade,rather than wait for a year, before I can truly enjoy the product that I purchased. ;)
Another thing, if you do the math, and make an ACER clone, here's the price projection:
AMD 64X2 5000- 3K
MoBo- around 2.8-3.2K
RAM- 1Gig 800 pesos
HDD 160G- 1.8K
Optical SATA- 1.3K
Casing-2K
To sum it up, a clone for our ACER sans any OS may reach 12K, giving us owners a clear price advantage since for 17K, our X3200 has a VISTA OS pre-installed. This is cheaper than the average working NMT posted in the NMT thread, and far too cheaper than the seemingly best NMT we have in the Manila Market. ;) ;D
to sum it all up: Don't think twice upgrading. ;) ;D
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I have called PC gilmore and they said they have low profile variant of 8500GT for the acer aspire x3200 they said i would lose my warranty. It costs 2200 only for 512MB memory
What branch of PC Gilmore for the 8500GT? Thanks in advance.
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In my case, I ditched my warranty worries goodbye and upgraded the: memory to 4gb, added the 8400GS and also upgrade the sata drive to a 750gb seagate... now if there is really that 8500 low profile, i might get that one too... i haven't reached the tipping point of also doing the AMD Quad-Core CPU 65watts purchase from amazon.com... i think in between that, i will stick my head into getting Vista Ultimate upgrade for this... ;D
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I also did 2GBram to my acer in premium logic greenhills it will still have the warranty but adding video cards will void your warranty. btw the store is
Gilmore Branch
3F Computer Graphics Bldg.,
Gilmore Ave.,
Quezon City
721-3496 / 726-7628
0922-599-8032
[email protected]
guys check it out tell me if hybrid sli works and what performance on your games with DX10
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I got confirmation from Royet of the store above that they have stock of 8500 low profile for php 2.2k... store is open from 9am to 7pm mondays to sundays
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JackRyan- Thank you tried to call too, but I saw your post. ;) ;D
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Nice....I might purchase that 8500GT low profile.
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JackRyan- Thank you tried to call too, but I saw your post. ;) ;D
Hehehe... magtira ka for me... ;D
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has anyone got the 8500GT? :)
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hi! aside from upgrading to a 8400gs
i have a better alternative
meron ba nag try na upgrade yung PSU nila
and maglagay ng 9400 or 9600gt card? those are low profile cards din and offer much than the 8400.
still unsure kasi i asked a friend din and he's quite knowledgeable, sabi nya its possible and mentioned micro psu's (no idea what that is pero i think yun ung mga kasha sa x3200..)
having that kind of psu w/ a 400-500watts can be a problem. cooling probs/overheating might damage yung other hardware so i thought of it twice muna and looking at the 8400gs for an upgrade this christmas.
i've seen reviews na wala mxado difference yung geforce boost
(what do you expect from a low end card like the 8400gs naman diba??)
though nvidia claims na 20-50% performance gain, benchmarks says otherwise. forgot which site pero i've googled nvidia 8200 review
browse ko yung 1st 5 links... bsta andun xa mga paps with the geforce boost feat, it suffered minor drawbacks sa ibang games compared sa standalone 8200. am surprised myself sa nakita ko.
pero mga sir ask ko dun sa mga nag upgrade and in use ng geforce boost if malaki yung difference ng standalone 8200 vs 8200mgpu w/ 8400gs geforce boost.
and please i beg naman po... pasend ng pictures ng box ng 8400gs na nag fit sa x3200 nyo. i've seen some sa malls na low profile pero not sure if it has the small brackets included or should i but it separateley pa? pasend po ng pictures sa email ko. its [email protected]. thanks in advance!
btw acer upgraded (more preciseley i should say replaced) my psu from 220w to a 250w. nagloko kasi xa dati ayaw mag on.
ayun, i researched din na 8400 models need at least 350 so mejo messed up tlga ako about upgrading.. help!!
then there's this 256 and 512 variant of 8400's. i'm prolly looking forward to buy the 512MB version so possible ba yun or yung 256MB lang because of the restrictions of a 250w small but RELIABLE psu?
and to no avail, spending hours researching for an 8500 low profile card wala po tlga ako nakita. post naman po ng pics or pasend sa email. 8500 would be a much better than the 8400 of course kasi 128 bit xa compared sa 64 bit ng 8400.
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im sorry i dont know how to edit the posts..
anyway dun sa mga nagkakaprob na
windows vista only detects 3GB of ram
its mainly because you are using a 32-bit OS
sayang po yung ram nyo na purchase pag di kayo nag upgrade to a 64bit!
can't technically explain the details pero
yung 64bit reads up to 16gigs of memory modules and the 32bit obviously only detects a maximum of 4gigs of memory modules (kasama na po yung other memory like the ram and the "ram" of your DISCRETE (separate) graphics card.) so for example you have 4 gigs of ram and 1gig of graphics card, your system can only use the 3gigs of your memory sticks and 1gig for your card. all in all you are already using the maximum of 4gig kaya neglect na yung excess which is the 1gig ram. its a mobo thingy! bsta mahirap explain yung details basta yun na yun. hope it helps kahit malabo ako haha!
to wrap it all up:
4gigs of ram can't be used with a 32bit OS**
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Why don't you guys admit to yourself that this acer is not an all in one machine. Mag-buo na lang kayo ng gaming setup para di kayo kinululit ng mga anak ninyo. Sige kayo, magtuturo yan ng kung ano-anong nabili ninyo (using the kids as the excuse) baka mapansin ni es-mi, lalo kayong malintikan. ;D
I think this is a word of wisdom. ;)
I came across a thread in one forum about a member who tried for 2 months to convert his to find out and destroy most of his parts,after which when he succeeded only concluded that the best parts were the ones incorporated in the design.
Do keep in mind that we bought a Branded Desktop PC. :P
We should be aware that such products wwere designed with limitations in mind. ::)
(or else,who'd buy the other models :P )
At least we can enjoy 1080p movies.
and please i beg naman po... pasend ng pictures ng box ng 8400gs na nag fit sa x3200 nyo. i've seen some sa malls na low profile pero not sure if it has the small brackets included or should i but it separately pa?
Picture is in page 2, and yes it easy to install and it fits with no heating problems, at least for the 3 confirmed users myself including.Installation histories can be read as you scroll down the pages,the only problem encountered was that posted by JackRyan, otherwise all others ran smoothly.
BTW, when I bought my Acer, the people there told me the PSU is 350Watts...however, when I opened my Acer, I was not able to check on this since I just took it for granted. Anyone here who scrutinized their psu ??? ....kindly confirm if the wattage is only 200W.
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acer x3200 is 350w you can insert a 8500gt 512mb in pc gilmore. 2.2k only they confirmed already that it will work
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Thank you for confirming, I was taken aback when the previous post indicated that it's only 200W, since if that's the case, even with the 8400 we will encounter some power problems.
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Wow, 350watts... I thought it is only rated at 220watts at least based on website specs...
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i'm not really sure if it's 350w because whenever i call acer they look like stupid and does not even know much about their product but when i asked them they said it's 350w. I'ts hard to tell, someone answered that he doesn't even know what hybrid SLI is.
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Its only 220 watts, I got a look at the power supply when I opened it.
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I went to PC Gilmore and asked for Royet, and he showed me the 8500GT, which is a normal sized Video card and said "It'll fit the HT casing". I asked if he's the one Jack Ryan talked to last Wednesday and he confirmed it.
So as of now, the 8500GT low profile is not available at PC Gilmore, Royet is not even aware what the X3200 is...and since Andre has confirmed(Thank You) that our PSW is only 220W, maybe only the 8400 remains as the best choice for our X3200.
BTW, I was able to talk with one of the techie in one of the PC shops that I frequent(not PC Gilmore) he informed me that the 7300 performed better than the 8500 in most of the games they've tried.
I guess we'll just have to satisfy ourselves with whatever we have now. :P ::)
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aww... nkakahina naman ng loob yung sa gilmore. tatakbo na sana ako gift ko sa sarili ko ngayong pasko
grabe huhuhu
pero guys sana maging available na to sa philippines! or kng available na sa pinas paresearch naman jan kng san mabibili toH!
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162004&CMP=AFC-C8Junction (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162004&CMP=AFC-C8Junction)
this is one of the few brands who released an 8500gt low profile
and i believe that this'll work sa acer x3200 naten especially dun sa mga concerned sa 220w na psu's
read nyo yung user comments. meron isa na nag claim it works for his HP slimline which has 120w psu -- wow! not sure if it really is a 120w pero i think he meant 220w kaya equal lang sa current psu's naten ^^
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hey guys.. forgot to ask
yung acerx3200 ko pag nag play ako ng dvd bakit po mahina yung sound?
newbie question sensha na...
im using the stock speakers, yung kasama nung package pero bakit ganun?
pag nag play naman ako ng normal mp3's or kahit anong sound ok naman
pero pag nagplay lang tlga ng dvd mahina tlga yung sound kahit maxxed na?
any problem with my settings po ba?
also, i have codecs naman. cccp codecs yung download ko.. ayaw ko ng k-lite kasi
puro "junk" codec yun. i know cccp codecs are enough for playback purposes naman.
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do i need to upgrade the Videocard and RAM for HTPC (1080p) viewing only .....
TIA
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yung acerx3200 ko pag nag play ako ng dvd bakit po mahina yung sound?
What media player did you use? Preferably it should be PowerDVD......if you're using media Player Classic or WMP kindly look at the audio settings of the player, check also your realtek audio manager icon(located at the right lower task bar icons), which might have been reconfigured by the os to emit via 5.1, then reconfigure it to Stereo,and that should do it. ;)
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do i need to upgrade the Videocard and RAM for HTPC (1080p) viewing only .....
per previous posts some 1080p can play smoothly even with the 8200, it's just that you might encounter a frustrating 1080p which might be unplayable with the stock video card, and from my experience, it's not really easy to buy the 8400gs, in fact I got mine via Tipid PC, since when I was desperately looking for one, only the 256(more than adequate for movies and very cheap at 1.2K but might give hiccups to some games) variant was available.
The following post was made by Raptor on a different thread,which advises a different take:
Quote from: raptor on Dec 18, 2008 at 05:28 PM
Sirs, for our HTPC requirements, the more important thing is the video processors support for hardware acceleration for HD videos (h.264 formats) ... some of the most expensive high-end video cards that were released early last year does not have such feature, and most of the newly released integrated graphics cards on motherboards have the hardware acceleration for HD videos ... hence, an upgrade to a discrete video card will not necessarily mean an improvement on watching HD movies - improvement would just likely be on 3D performance.
What happens if the video card does not support hardware acceleration for HD video is that the encoding/ddecoding process is mostly handled by the CPU and not the graphics processor, hence if you have an old or low powered processor, you may experience issues (freezing, chopiness, pixelization, etc.) ... if you have a graphics processor with HD acceleration however, you do not really need a powerful CPU for HTPC purposes.
The best integrated graphics processor available are the Radeons built-in on AMD 780G-based motherboards ... these are usually paired with single-core AMD Sempron (LE series) for HTPC usage - this makes for a cheap, low-power consumption, and low-noise HTPC system ... there are a lot of positive reviews for such HTPC setups on popular computer tech sites (such as Anandtech and Toms Hardware).
I would recommend upgrading the memory of the X3200 rather than adding discrete video card if the purpose is primarily HT.
However, our Vista is good only for 3Gig max of RAM, so if you have an extra money,and who knows you might want to install a game requiring heavy 3D acceleration, It seems practical to install one. most significantly that it only costs 1.2K and the hardware is not always available.
BTW.....I saw a Flyer in one PC Shop indicating an ACER Promo, wherein there's a Free Brother Printer for every purchase of an Acer X3200,same price at 16.9K.... promo is valid till December 31,2008
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@Alfie thanks for the info
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its in stereo (i think ~_~).. where and how do i configure ba? diba yun yung nasa taskbar? if it is, then nasa stereo nga.
yep, currently using powerdvd and already tried different players pero gnun pa rin? waahh help po please.. mahina tlga sound pag play ng dvd
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220 watts lang ang psu.
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i called up Vilman and Acer Mega... both have NO STOCKS of x3200... may pumalit na daw na model, i saw it on the web-- new model of acer, aspire x1200 any good?
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Does the x3200 really have the 8400 discrete graphics built in? Because the specs said it had 8400 discrete via sli. But the x3200 only finds the 8200... thanks!
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You still have to install the 8400 and activate the Hybrid SLi.
Kindly read thru the thread, the comprehensive answer to your question are incorporated within the previous pages. ;)
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ohh..oki! haha! thanks! :D
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its in stereo (i think ~_~).. where and how do i configure ba? diba yun yung nasa taskbar? if it is, then nasa stereo nga.
yep, currently using powerdvd and already tried different players pero gnun pa rin? waahh help po please.. mahina tlga sound pag play ng dvd
Inside the powerdvd configuration,meron setting ng sound depending sa room and enviroment (3 settings if I remember correctly). Dont mind too much what each option means but try one by one and see which sounds the loudest.
Kung ang mahina lang is the boses but malakas background, try mo install AC3Filter
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i called up Vilman and Acer Mega... both have NO STOCKS of x3200... may pumalit na daw na model, i saw it on the web-- new model of acer, aspire x1200 any good?
Isn't this the same as the Phil's version of X3200 ?
http://www.villman.com/Product-Detail/X1200
(except for the slight speed bump on the CPU)
Processor:
AMD Ath64 x2 5600+ 940 2.9GHZ, 1024KB*2 (65W)
Chipset:
NVIDIA GeForce 8200
Memory:
1GB DDRII 667MHZ,
Hard Disk:
160GB SATAII 7200 RPM
Optical Drive:
16X Super Multi Drive, with Label Flash Technology
Display:
Integrated NVIDIA GeForce 8200 Graphics Solution
Audio:
Integrated high-definition audio
Networking:
Integrated Gigabit Ethernet,10/100/1000,
I/O Expansion:
PCI Express 2.0 x 16 slot
PCI Express 2.0 x 1 slot
Monitor:
NO Monitor
Floppy Drive:
NO Floppy Disk Drive
Keyboard & Mouse:
With USB Keyboard and USB Optical Mouse
Speaker:
With USB Speaker
Operating System:
With Windows Vista Home Basic 32bit
Card Reader:
With Card Reader
Modem:
With 56K Internal PCI Modem
Soft Load:
With Acer Empowering Technology
Warranty:
1 year parts and labor
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does adding geforce 8400 hybrid sli has a big difference on your games?
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Sa akin mga anak, OO'.....noon una.....ayaw mag install nang World At War (as of now the most resource hungry) :'( ....tapos nag-install...pero napa-kasama. :P :-[....noon nalagay na ang 8400gs...tumakbo na nang ma-ayos. ;D.....pero mas maganda parin doon sa PC nila na naka 9600GT. ;) ;D
Ang masasabi kolang ay, kung may balak kang mag install nang Games na bagong gawa nang Activision at EA.....malaking tyansa na ka-kailanganin mo iyun' 8400GS, pero kung iyun' mga Games na isi-nama sa X3200, Ok na ang 8200. ;) ;D
Pero sabi ko nga sa una kong post.....ba't ka hindi mag la-lagay, eh' 1.2K lang ang 256mb, na 8500, bihira ka pang maka-kuha....baka'a pag, kailangan mo na...wala na siya, eh' siya lang talaga ang recommendadong video card, mura na, compatible pa. ;) ;D
Jack Ryan= Isn't it that the price difference between the 5000 and 5600 is only 1K or at some PC stores even less??....I think our X3200 is really the best buy....BTW, nowadays there's a promo for a free Brother's printer for the same price, the Printer's ok , I was able to get one when I bought my wife her laptop, but I still prefer the Samsung Cell Phone they gave me when I bought my X3200, it's so utilitarian. ;)
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Yes, I think the X3200 is still "sulit" for the local price... however, I also wished Acer Phils gave us an option to get the worldwide config made available for X3200 (with quad core, blue ray drive, etc).
Btw, make sure you add a cheap 4gb USB flash drive (I got it from CDRKing) TDK TransIT drive to enable the Vista caching option.
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mga boss ako po yung nag ask ng pics ng 8400gs dati and was referred to the 2nd page of the forum..
ask lang kasi hindi naman low profile yung pics na andun? malaki at normal na 8400gs hndi yung para sa x3200 naten.
i'm still having trouble finding the "right" brand po..
sir im desperate po gsto ko tlga muna makita yung pics para sure na ako sa bibilin ko
anyways buggy pa rin saken yung 256MB and 512MB variant of the 8400gs
mga sir ano po yung naka install sa x3200 ninyo? what brand actually utilizes the geforce boost?
pasendn naman po ng box pics nyo oh please...
[email protected]
or better yet, pa post na lang po ng pics dito sa forum mismo please ulit... thanks very much!
chka pahabol na din po na question, pag mag upgrade ako ng hard disk anong type yung compatible dito?
i'm willing to buy a 500GB.. sata ii slim ba? not sure.. please shed a little light for the newbie here (X_X)
i believe sata ii yung HD netong x3200 naten ryt?
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Nalalaro ko naman yung Vegas 2 ng 8200 lang ng lowest lahat 800x600 resolution
Alfie na try mo na gears of war or rainbow six vegas 2? anong settings mga nakukuha mo sa games mo?
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mga boss ako po yung nag ask ng pics ng 8400gs dati and was referred to the 2nd page of the forum..
ask lang kasi hindi naman low profile yung pics na andun? malaki at normal na 8400gs hndi yung para sa x3200 naten.
i'm still having trouble finding the "right" brand po..
sir im desperate po gsto ko tlga muna makita yung pics para sure na ako sa bibilin ko
anyways buggy pa rin saken yung 256MB and 512MB variant of the 8400gs
mga sir ano po yung naka install sa x3200 ninyo? what brand actually utilizes the geforce boost?
pasendn naman po ng box pics nyo oh please...
[email protected]
or better yet, pa post na lang po ng pics dito sa forum mismo please ulit... thanks very much!
chka pahabol na din po na question, pag mag upgrade ako ng hard disk anong type yung compatible dito?
i'm willing to buy a 500GB.. sata ii slim ba? not sure.. please shed a little light for the newbie here (X_X)
i believe sata ii yung HD netong x3200 naten ryt?
carlhenry- MALIGAYANG PASKO sa Iyo'.....sana ay na-i-intindihan mo ang mga naka sulat sa mga post dito, alam ko nasa wikang ingles, pero, kung ba-basahin mo lahat, malalaman mo rin na naka install na ang 8400gs sa mga tatlo hangang apat na miyembro dito sa pinoydvd na may Acer Aspire X3200.
Hindi ka ma-tu-tulungan nang litrato....lalo na kung naka litrato na sa pahina dos at hindi ka pa rin sang-ayon na hindi ito ang kasya sa Aspire X3200. Tatlo hangggang limang pahina na nga ang pinag uusapan na na-ilagay na ang 8400gs sa Aspire X3200, kaya kung hindi ka mani-niwala, wala na kaming ma-ga-gawa.
Tungkol sa iba mong mga tanong,ang masa-sabi ko lang ay pakidala na lang ang unit mo kung saan mo ito binili, at tiyak na matu-tulungang ka nang mga experto doon at on-the-job ang ipa-pakita sa iyo.
sana ay na-intindihan mo na ang sagoit ko sa iyo' at nasa sariling wika na ito'.
Alfie na try mo na gears of war or rainbow six vegas 2? anong settings mga nakukuha mo sa games mo?
Hindi, dahil hinid ako ang Gamer, mga anak ko, provider lang ako.
Ang alam ko, Call Of Duty World At War ang pinaka resource hungry ngayon....pero kung mali ako, at iyan ang resource hungry,at na-iplay nang Aspire, eh' di' mabuti' para sa atin. ;) ;D
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I think using a Palit HD 4670 (small footprint and uses meager kuryente) should outperform an 8400 GT with GeForce boost. You guys might want to look into that. The card is Php 3950 at PC Options.
And btw, a Liteon BDRom drive is available at PC Bodega for a mere Php 6,700. A good addition to your Acer X3200's. LG is also about to locally release their HD-DVD/Blu-ray combo drive too, which should cost less than Php 9,000.
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And btw, a Liteon BDRom drive is available at PC Bodega for a mere Php 6,700.
This is good news ;D
I think using a Palit HD 4670 (small footprint and uses meager kuryente) should outperform an 8400 GT with GeForce boost.
From what I understand from the Acer Specs for the X3200 only the 8400GS can avail of the SLI Hybrid advantage, other than that, the video card becomes a stand alone card.
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OO ALFIE NAIINTINDIHAN KITA. CHKA HINDI NAMAN AKO DUDA SA MGA POSTS NA MAY 8400GS DITO. KUNG BABASAHIN MO ULIT, HINDI LANG AKO SIGURADO KUNG ANONG BIBILIN KO. OO LOW PROFILE BA YUNG BIBILIN KO PERO NAGTATANONG AKO KUNG ANONG BRAND YUNG MAGANDA KASI HINDI KO ALAM KUNG ANONG BRAND YUNG MGA NASA INYO. KUNG GAGASTOS AKO NG 1.5-2K EH MALAMANG GUSTO KO NAMAN YUNG BEST BUY ANG MAKUKUHA KO. YUN LANG. KELANGAN KO LANG NG CLARIFICATIONS PO KASI YUNG NAKA POST SA PAGE 2 KUNG MAKIKITA MO AY YUNG NORMAL NA 8400GS HINDI YUNG LOW PROFILE. CHAKA TINATANONG KO YUNG 512MB NA 8400GS KUNG ANONG BRAND NUN. KUNG PALIT BA, GALAXY O INNO3D. PASENSHA NA PO ULIT LALONG LALO NA SAYO ALFIE HA, KASI MATAGAL KO NA TALAGA GUSTO BUMILI NATATAKOT LANG AKO BAKA MALI ANG MABILI KO. ANG GUSTO KO PA ICLARIFY LALO EH KUNG KAYA NG PSU YUNG 512MB NA 8400GS. YUN LANG. MALIGAYANG PASKO DIN SAYO ALFIE HA.
LOL IM A NEWBIE IN TERMS OF TALKING ABOUT HARDWARE AND SUCH PERO IM NOT AN IDIOT.
OFFENDED BAKA KASI AKALA MO DI AKO NAKAKAINTINDI NG ENGLISH.
MALIGAYANG PASKO! PEACE :D
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Well and good....so stop asking stupid questions that had been answered,and as far as idiocy is concerned, you don't even know what an idiot is.....in fact there's an article by an Atenean columnist at the Star's Sunday edition defining what idiocy is,and if youre' really interested you should probably read that, it's still posted in their archival pages. Now if you're offended with what I posted and have the temerity to post in such unruly manner then you're not worthy to be called an Idiot but simply STUPID.....imagine....the picture is there signifying it's low profile,and you still wouldn't believe it....and you dare hide in the guise of being a newbie.
I rest my case and I hope you can understand this particular post...so BUG OFF...amd ask your stupid repeatitive questions elsewhere.
ps
There's nobility in Idiocy, and you are crass, unrefined and uncouth,signifying that you are plainly STUPID.
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Peace.... Brothers.. Merry Christmas!
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define idiot:a person of subnormal intelligence
define stupid:lacking or marked by lack of intellectual acuity
that must be me. sorry. kahit ano jan sa 2. ewan.
and wag mo na flame pa. sige stupid na kung stupid. hindi idiot.
yan pagkakaintindi ko. ta*!
chka alfie eto yung naka post sa page 2 ohh.. guys check nyo kung low profile to
ang laking low profile nyan!!
http://www.rsun.com.ph/view_item.php?item=VPC150
and oo may nakalagay na low profile dun pero nakalagay naman sa post nya na UNSURE siya kung magwork yung geforce boost.
thanks alfie. sobrang nakatulong ka. merry merry christmas.
again gusto ko lang clarify yung questions ko.
alfie if you'd be so kind na sabihin saken kung anong brand ng 8400gs chka if 256MB or 512MB yung naka install sa x3200 mo yun lang ask ko. hindi definition ng idiot hindi definition ng stupid or whatever. ano ba yan? MSI? yung nakalagay sa link? siguro yan yung nakalagay sayo... or pny, galaxy...
oh.. pag humirit ka pa sige suko nako. hindi na ko mag ask. thanks guys, at least clear na kung pano activate yung geforce boost! ^^
alfie thanks rin sa previous post ko about sa sound problems ko dun sa dvd. very helpful. lumakas na xa ng konti pero not satisfied pa rin sa volume level nya kahit maxxed na.
siguro replace ko na lang speakers ko. pero at least lumakas kahit papano. thanks! ahem.. *sarcasm*
BS christmas.
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oh.. pag humirit ka pa sige suko nako. hindi na ko mag ask.
Thank Goodness
Bye Bye, enjoy your Christmas.
Lastly, as in my previous post...just bring your unit to whatever store you bought it from, and let them help you, I just can't see any reason this thread can help you any further.
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It's Jack Ryan's Posts....he-he no wonder, you posted the wrong and looking at the Rsun picture.....sorry we really cannot help you.....Ha-HA you resented and got angry to a statement telling you what you are, but nevertheless just confirmed yourself to be one. :P ::)
(http://www.geeks.com/imageshare/S/300x300/SF-PX84GS256U2LP-HP-unit.jpg)
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sa definitions synonyms sila ungas.
read and UNDERSTAND muna before ka magcomment.
and... thanks alfie jan sa pic na yan from page 2 sa forum.. yan nga yung tinitignan ko PERO sabi nya UNSURE sya na mag wowork yung geforce boost kaya gusto ko iclarify. -- again, kung naintindihan mo yung previous post ko malamang alam mo yung isasagot hndi ka sabat ng sabat ng kung ano ano jan. mahiya ka nga sa edad mo.
dumbarse, binabasa mo ba maige yung posts or gusto mo lang tlga gumanti palabasin ako tanga?
wtf is your problem man? was asking nicely and politely pero napaka pabida mo. babaw mo pare.
kung titignan at iintindihin previous posts ko gusto ko lang talaga humingi ng photos ng box. kung ayaw mo magbigay edi nanahimik ka na lang sana. malay mo meron magandang loob jan (obviously hindi ikaw yun) na magsesend nga sa email ko. and what do you mean "WE"? kahit mod ka dito controlado mo ba kung gusto nila tulungan ako? LOL
yep, brought my unit sa villman and acer sa megamall pero ewan ko ba parang di nila alam items na binebenta nila. insist nila na hindi kaya yung 8400gs card and wala din sila idea kung ano yung low profile. pissed lalo na dun sa acer store kasi di nya tlga alam kung ano yung mga questions ko.
PS.
ELITIST mo alfie. ;)
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and... thanks alfie jan sa pic na yan from page 2 sa forum.. yan nga yung tinitignan ko PERO sabi nya UNSURE sya na mag wowork yung geforce boost kaya gusto ko iclarify. -- again, kung naintindihan mo yung previous post ko malamang alam mo yung isasagot hndi ka sabat ng sabat ng kung ano ano jan. mahiya ka nga sa edad mo.
dumbarse, binabasa mo ba maige yung posts or gusto mo lang tlga gumanti palabasin ako tanga?
wtf is your problem man? was asking nicely and politely pero napaka pabida mo. babaw mo pare.
kung titignan at iintindihin previous posts ko gusto ko lang talaga humingi ng photos ng box. kung ayaw mo magbigay edi nanahimik ka na lang sana. malay mo meron magandang loob jan (obviously hindi ikaw yun) na magsesend nga sa email ko. and what do you mean "WE"? kahit mod ka dito controlado mo ba kung gusto nila tulungan ako? LOL
No Need to argue with you.....No need to prove you're "tanga"
You're responses/reactions' the best evidence to prove you are. :P
You cannot understand simple words,how can you follow simple instructions. :P
I rest my case. ;)
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carlhenry ganun talaga mga tao sa acer walang alam. Tumawag na ako sa acer dati pati hybrid sli di nila alam tapos nagtanong ako ano power supply 350w DAW pero 220w lang pala. bulok technician ng acer mas marami pa ako alam.
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naku.... sana huwag ka kayong mag-away or mag-asaran... kc pasko, wala kayong gift kay santa.....
peace man
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aww gnun ata pala tlga sa acer.. pati sa villman sa mega di rin nila alam
alfie naintindihan ko naman yung instructions mo ehh.. i went to page 2 nakita ko yung malaking 8400gs yung naka post sa rsun so mali yun.
uu nakita ko din yung low profile na pic dun ng 8400gs, yung kulay blue na nirepost mo pero sabi nga nya unsure siya if magwork yung boost dun -- yung statement nya dito is yung main reason bakit ako nagdadalawang isip.
so what do you mean i cannot understand simple words/instructions?
i guess your posts din is the BETTER EVIDENCE kung sino ang MAS saten.
peace.
yep tanga ako... pagdating sa hardware.
simple words are too technical para saken lalo na sa mga techie part.
kaya nga ako ask ng details eh yung naiintindihan ko. hanggang ngayon walang sumasagot, si alfie lang pero mas nagfocus xa kung ano isusumbat nya saken.
if you'll read our conversations din dito sa forum makikita mo ang lalayo ng sagot mo sa questions ko.
i'm sorry alfie. please accept my apologies.
anyways may nagpost na nakainstall sa x3200 nila is RED na 8400gs. googled it tpos may lumabas sa rsun. paverify na lang po kung yun yung 8400gs nyo? and if the geforce boost is working properly.
guys, eto ba yun?
http://www.rsun.com.ph/view_item.php?item=VPC100
alfie sorry.
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CarlHenry- Peace na tayo ;D...... ;)
oh' ito na......PALIT ang tatak nang amin......1.2K kay Rsun ang 256mb....siya lang ang mayroon hangang nang nakaraan linggo.....kung mga i-install ka nang games lalo na mga bagong labas nang Actvision at EA...mas maganda ang 512mb...napatakbo ang World At War nang Call Of Duty....gusto sana namin ay 8500, pero talagang wala.....pero sa pag-a-aral ko, mukhang pang 8400 lang tayo talaga.
Ang 512mb ko na 8400 ay tiyaga ko sa TipidPC. Nakakuha ako pag-karaan nag isang linggong paghi-hintay.
(http://www.geeks.com/imageshare/S/300x300/SF-PX84GS256U2LP-HP-unit.jpg)
Ang 512 ay Pula...ang 256 asul katulad nang nasa litrato...pa-palitan mo ang bracket, kaya pag bumili ka, i-pa-palit mo na ang bracket, baka ang ma-bigay pa sa iyo' ay iyun' nawalang bracket.
BTW...mayroon din daw na Inno3D ang tatak...pero sa experience ko, naka-kaanim na akong Videocard para s anak ko at para sa akin....masama at sirain ang Inno3D....hu-mihinto ang fan cooler...at tama ka, Inno3D ang bine-benta nang Vilman.......pero sa experience ko, may mga maga-galin din sa Vilman...dahil sila ang mga una kong naki-lala at nag turo sa akin, kaya lang sukdulan talaga ang taas nang presyo nila. tapos mahilig sila sa referral sa mga distributor,kaya siguro ganoon ang sagot nila sa iyo' at sa isa natin kasama....sa madaling salita, mukhang naging pure business na lang sila,ang support sa distributor.
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Alfie palit 512mb sayu?
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Yup...seemingly the samew with Jack Ryan.
I have 2 good experiences with Palit, 2 conk outs with Inno3D and 2 Sparkle still working(all NVIDIA). The best seems to be Powercolor, however, it's mainly ATI, and since my kids are mostly gamers, I always end up with NVIDIA.
My ATI Powercolor is still being abused at my other office. ;)
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whew.. thanks very much
yun lang ask ko. thanks.. now going for the 512.
alfie sorry. your last post is very helpful.
peace man.
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Yes, confirm ko lang po... this is what I got from a GH shop for Php 1.8k.
I got this one over the blue version due to the active cooling (fan) vs. heatsink on the blue version. Additionally, the red one provides for an HDMI output compared to the blue one. It is also 512mb.
(http://www.rsun.com.ph/images/products/VPC100.jpg)
Looking at the RSUN post above, this is a steal at Php 1,450.
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Yup-yup,same one I have, with HDMI port....(but for low profile, the bracket hid the hdmi) ;)
When I was trying to buy one from RSun, they priced the 512mb for 1.7k, so at 1.4k it's really a good buy.
The 256mb goes for 1.2K then.
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I went to Virra Mall Greenhills this morning and I chanced upon a shop selling a PALIT 8400GS 512MB cache for 1.75K, they have 3 on stocks, I forgot the name of the store,but it's situated in the 3rd floor,and maybe the same store Jack Ryan bought his. ;) ;D
(BTW...they also claimed that there never was a 8500 low profile) :P
For info to those interested.
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waahh been busy di ko pa mapuntahan 8400 ko. gonna try my luck sa GH sana meron pa para makamura..
anyways eto yung 8500 na low profile. di nga lang sya availabe dito sa philippines :(
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162004&CMP=AFC-C8Junction
i believe pde to sa x3200 naten. but anyway matagal pa siguro to magiging availabe or baka maging obsolete na
kasi dami na lumalabas na 9-series cards ngayon.. oh well.. lets keep our fingers crossed!
*drool*
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are you guys using Vista's READY BOOST feature?
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here's another set of options (8500, 8600 except both are on 256mb video memory only)... but have to get from an online US shop...
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=188-01N19-00CTG&cat=VCD
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=188-03N19-00CEV&cat=VCD
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are you guys using Vista's READY BOOST feature?
Yes...good for video converting/rendering ;D
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hi! ask ko lang kung ano yung normal temperature ng 8400gs...mine is at 60 degrees when surfing the net..then reaches up to 68 degrees when playing games... normal lng ba yun? thanks!!! advanced happy new year! :D
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ganun talaga temps nun akin umaabot ng 73c kapag di naka aircon sa iba kong pc
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new model of acer, aspire x1200 any good?
Saw this at a PC shop in Park Square 1 Makati, and except for the AMD 64 X2 5600 everything looks physically the same as our X3200. ;)
BTW....I also saw a shop at Park Square who is selling a 512Mb Palit 8400GS...for info to those interested.
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Alfie, you are definitely right. I think our X3200 is really the X1200 except that locally they kind of capitalized on the stripped down X3200 and sell it low by stripping it of the quadcore, blueray drive and stuff that is standard release for X3200 worldwide.
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Saw this at a PC shop in Park Square 1 Makati, and except for the AMD 64 X2 5600 everything looks physically the same as our X3200. ;)
BTW....I also saw a shop at Park Square who is selling a 512Mb Palit 8400GS...for info to those interested.
sir how much is the x1200 and palit 8400GS
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X1200 seems to be selling for 24K with LCD, forgot what size.
Saw the 8400GS at 1.8K at the park square, regular usual price is 1.7K.
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X1200 seems to be selling for 24K with LCD, forgot what size.
Saw the 8400GS at 1.8K at the park square, regular usual price is 1.7K.
sana pede without the lcd.... im thinking of getting the x1200 unit only.
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Alabang Festival Mall 8400GS 512MB Php 1.6K lang. ;) Computer Farm Shop right beside Asianic Computer shop.
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sana pede without the lcd.... im thinking of getting the x1200 unit only.
Somebody posted that sans the LCD, it goes for 19K. :P
Better look for the X3200, there's still some avialable. ;)
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I found out that our Aspire X3200 cannot process 1080p MKV videos cleanly ...such as The Dark Knight, thus, I learned from the Share your HTPC part 2 thread that the way to go is via CoreAVC 1.8.5 (you'll have to download the torrent EDGE version or buy it for $5 standard or higher for the PRO)
Here's the link:http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=87490.60 (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=87490.60)
and here's the instructions c/o Clondalkin:
Quote from: Clondalkin on Jan 09, 2009 at 09:15 AM
For KMP
Right click, Options, Preferences or press F2
Under Filter Control/Decoder Usage, click Internal Video Decoder and uncheck H.264 and AVC1 tick boxes.
Click External Video Decoder, External Decoder Search, Add After Scan - then all installed external decoders will be listed in the window. If CoreAVC is properly installed it will be detected and included in the list. Press OK to close window.
Click External Video Decoder again then click the Down Arrow next to the H.264 Video box and select *CoreAVC Video Decoder. Do the same operation on AVC1. If you want to play around with the settings of CoreAVC, click the "C" next to the Down Arrow and the Filter Info will be displayed. Close Preferences Window and that's it.
PS. Mukhang ang ganda ng bagong beta ng KMP -ver. 1434
MPC
Right click, Options, External Filters, Add Filter.
Select CoreAVC, press OK, tick the Prefer box, press OK to close window and that's it.
In case maraming ibang external codecs, disable or uninstall them.
For info to those interested. ;)
If you have discovered other solutions kindly post them here.
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Bro Alfie, I have no problem playing 1080p mkv movies with my X3200. I am using COREAVC and KMPlayer.
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Chess- My Acer X3200 was not equipped with Coreavc and KM player and I was unaware that ther'll be problems with high resolution MKV files(since I only use the Media Player Classic and watch axxo movies on it) until I read the post of Clondalkin in one of the threads regarding HTPC,anyway, I got hold of a 1080p specifically The Dark Knight and true enough, there were out of synch audio, and movement artifacts, thus I downloaded the KM player, and the problems persisted, so I followed it up with the 1.8.5 Coreavc,and it now plays smoothly, but from my observation, the MPC plays better(smoothly)than the KMplayer(or maybe I had problems with my installation).
I'm just trying to share my experience just in case some of the fellow owners of the X3200 encounter the same problems.
BTW...my Acer had problems with "The Dark Knight",which to my understanding is now being used for testing for any PC to be used as a HTPC. I used to think that my Acer can play all MKVs smoothly since I also have the Beijing Olympics Opening,and I had no problems playing it.
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Before, Got the same problems you encountered. What i did was to totally remove all codecs and players then I installed the CoreAVC codec first then the players. I also used MPC and KMplayer. Both players can play 1080p smoothly but based on my comparsions using window task manager, I noticed that MPC was using a lot of CPU resources around 80~95%. If I use another application, 1080p mkv stutters. While KMplayer only uses 30~50%max. HTH. ;)
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Yup, I think KMplayer is the way to go, however, there seems to be something wrong with my install,(has difficulty with 1080p The Dark Knight, but I have not tried any other) however, I can work on it maybe later in the week. ;) ;D
Thanks for the tip man, really appreciate it. ;) ;D
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speaking of codecs, i've been using klite codec pack (standard) for a while now but i never have had problems with it (on my x3200 of course). i played a few mkv pero ok naman speed nya. problem ko lang is meron xang di maplay na wmv. prolly will upgrade to klite MEGA pack.
anyway.. how do i remove the codecs completely on vista? kasi lam ko kahit uninstall meron pa ring matitira. i know the procedures sa windows xp yung aalisin mo xa sa sound, video and game controllers sa device manager, pero dito sa vista i dunno how to. dapat kasi pag click mo yun tab na yun lalabas yung video codecs tpos remove mo yung .dll... kaso ang lumalabas lang under sa sound, video and game controllers is yung HDMI and realtek high definition audio.
magkakaron kasi ng problems (..slowdowns during playback) pag hndi xa clean install or bsta install lang ng install ng codec packs.
pahabol question lang ulit sa merong mga 8400gs:
hindi ko manotice yung difference nung geforce boost. i recently bought my 8400gs (512mb) pero bakit parang gnun pa rin yung performance sa games ko? was hoping maka up ako ng at least 1 level sa resolution or detail setting pero bakit wala ako ma notice na improvement?
i followed the instructions naman dito sa forums para ma-on ko yung boost tpos may icon na din na "working" xa ata.
im playing Devil May Cry 4 on lowest detail settings and 640x480 before the upgrade smoothly and after the upgrade, pag mag up ako ng detail or resolution and performance test ko yung fps na bnbgay nya parang dati pa rin.. aww huhu parang nanghihinayang ako sa pera ko :(
im thinking dmc4 is just too much or may mali lang ako gnwa
..same is true with left4dead - less resource hungry. ang kayang detail settings nya is yung parang walang 8400gs. feel ko parang 8200 pa rin yung performance. walang gain whatsoever. and.. i tried to directly plug sa 8400 to see if the card is working properly, ok naman xa.
of course nasa 8200 naka plug ngayon yung monitor ko to make use of the geforce boost diba?
hmm.. baka ibenta ko na lang agad yung VC :(
meron ba dito nag improve yung gaming performance nila after nung upgrade? by how much? kahit estimate lang.. and on what games?
san ako nagkamali? aww...
here are my specs rin baka makahelp sa mag answer ng prob ko
2gig RAM
895MB allocated sa 8200 igp
and 512MB yung 8400gs ko..
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carlhenry- pasensiya ka na, hindi ko alam saguting ang mga tanong mo tungkol sa ating videocard, dahil ang games lang na alam kong' naging ok sa X3200 ay ang Call Of Duty World At War(dati dati, noon' 8200 lang ayaw tumakbo, pero naging OK sa 8400gs), siguro mas mabuti na i-pm mo sila Geren(pamangkin yata' ang gamer) o' kaya si sickboy(talagang gamer, madalas siya mag post sa Tech Thread at PC Games thread, kasi siya mismo' ang gamer), malamang na alam nila ang kasagutan diyan'.
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i see..
kinumpara ko yung system requirements nung COD sa DMC4
mas mababa yung COD.. siguro mxado lang tlga mataas yung DMC4.
still, duda pa rin ako sa performance gain nung 8400gs ko haayy.. :(
anyway satisfied pa rin naman ako sa x3200, di lang tlga xa pang casual gamer haha
thanks
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carlhenry
check mo sa bios. pagkabukas ng pc press mo delete tapos chipset features. Dun sa hybrid sli piliin mo automatic or disable. baka di mo pa napapagana.
post ka nalang kay ano nangyari
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emmanuelle-mukhang napa-gana na niya, may icon na daw. Talaga lang limitado ang ating videocard, mas maganda pa nga ang review sa mga 7000 series. :-\
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The 9500GT requires 350W PSU on paper but some VGA test charts (Xbit labs) show that it's closest cousin 9600GT consumes only around 65W under load. Thus even with a 200W PSU, I think there is a fair chance that this card can work with the X3200. Maybe an X3200 owner should check on the low profile version of this card. Please verify the card length and compare with the available length inside the X3200 case. When I saw the X1200 last month, I was quite amazed how small the case was.
Reviews indicate that 3D gaming performance of the 9500GT is very close to that of 8600GTS.
Note: I used the Xbit labs data to analyze if my 375W Dell can possibly take an ATI HD3870 that requires 450W on paper. It works very well, 2 internal hard drives, 2 optical drives, fully loaded RAM, discrete sound card and all.
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clondakin, meron bang available na 9500gt sa phils? i read reviews sa 9500 may nag claim working xa sa 120w
oh my... 8400gt for sale slightly used haha
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clondakin, meron bang available na 9500gt sa phils?
I dont know. I saw it sa Tokyo last quarter of 2008. It costed 10K yen then (5K pesos). PABILI KA KAY CHESS. ;D
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Naku bro allan, mahirap yan...No time to look for anything in Japan. Fast Break mangyayari. Lagare.....
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The Acer X3200's attractive no frills casing is actually it's main liability on why we cannot upgrade, so, if one will really aim to convert the X3200 into a gaming pc, one has to make the ultimate sacrifice of changing the casing, afterwhich everything else will follow, however, per my personal experience, I'd rather build another gaming pc,rather than looking for upgrades.(BTW, saw a promo leaf from PCXpress that a 7200 C2D is now selling for <3K)
In fact the only last logical upgrade I can think of is to change the processor to the 5200 that the X1200 has. Other than that is not practical anymore.
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hehe used to buying "generic" rigs.
x3200 enthusiast here.. ang cool kasi ng ichura ng case ng x3200 -- parang gsto ko xa pimp
pimp my x3200 hehe
na inlove ako sa design kaya pro-acer na ko ngayon lol.. HP is darn expensive (compared to acer ha)
pero yep, dahil sa casing rin yung limits nya
i guess i'll stick to my 8400gs for the time being.
next up ko is Hard Disk
what specs/brand to look for
choose ako 500GB or 1TB (doubts kasi sabi nila buggy daw 1TB)
and, pag install ko ng new HD
ggmitin ko lang recovery disk para magkaron na ulit ng OS ryt?
or kelangan ko na mag install ng new OS?
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hehe used to buying "generic" rigs.
x3200 enthusiast here.. ang cool kasi ng ichura ng case ng x3200 -- parang gsto ko xa pimp
pimp my x3200 hehe
na inlove ako sa design kaya pro-acer na ko ngayon lol.. HP is darn expensive (compared to acer ha)
pero yep, dahil sa casing rin yung limits nya
i guess i'll stick to my 8400gs for the time being.
next up ko is Hard Disk
what specs/brand to look for
choose ako 500GB or 1TB (doubts kasi sabi nila buggy daw 1TB)
and, pag install ko ng new HD
ggmitin ko lang recovery disk para magkaron na ulit ng OS ryt?
or kelangan ko na mag install ng new OS?
Seagate 32mbs 500Gig has a 5 year warranty compared to WD green, so no contest for mw, Nag Seagate ako.
Ok rin ang 1Tb, pero....sa experience ko, matagal pag may anti-virus scan, sa 500G ko na-partitioned sa 238G each, at di' punong storage disc, umaabot ako nang 1 hour sa daily scan.
and Yes, salpak mo lang ang recovery disc mo, pero mas mabuti na na-partitioned na any HDD mo dahil ang Vista, siya na ang hahanap at walang pakiaalam kung partitioned na siya.
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Ok naman ang performance ng x3200 acer. Satisfied naman ako. I am not a gamer. HTPC talaga set-up ko. Even my friends nagagandahan sa cute na casing ng acer.
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Leadtek 9500GT low profile. Kasya kaya yung haba nito sa Acer?
http://www.leadtek.com/eng/3d_graphic/overview.asp?lineid=1&pronameid=454
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Yup, yup kasyang kasya, kaya lang mukhang di' na pwedeng may gamit ang SLI.
(http://www.leadtek.com/eng/3d_graphic/image/winfast_px9500gt_lp_2s.jpg)
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Yup, yup kasyang kasya, kaya lang mukhang di' na pwedeng may gamit ang SLI.
(http://www.leadtek.com/eng/3d_graphic/image/winfast_px9500gt_lp_2s.jpg)
The box indicates it's SLI ready. I just dont know if hybrid SLI is supported. Pero as a single card, the 3D performance is claimed to be similar to an 8600GTS which should be faster than an 8400GS in SLI hybrid.
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You're right Clondalkin, however, the MoBo of our Acer X3200 had specifically stated, the embedded chips to function as a Hybrid SLI are for the 8400GS.
Now for the SLI part, when I installed my 8400GS, I could not find the SLI attachment tip, found with SLI equippped MoBo, thus, our MoBo is only for the Hybrid SLI function.
Pero as a single card, the 3D performance is claimed to be similar to an 8600GTS which should be faster than an 8400GS in SLI hybrid.
It's one reason to junk the Hybrid function,and settle for this Video Card, in fact, once I see one here in Manila, I think I'm getting one. ;)
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wait! alfie balitaan mo ko kung san mo nakita
aww haha
8400GS for sale sayang kakabili ko lang haha
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ahh onga pala
yung SLI di xa pwede sa geforce boost -- adds performance, igp + discrete
hybrid SLI lang -- pang tipid kuryente
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The box indicates it's SLI ready. I just dont know if hybrid SLI is supported. Pero as a single card, the 3D performance is claimed to be similar to an 8600GTS which should be faster than an 8400GS in SLI hybrid.
Wow. ok ito. Magkano ito sa Japan Bro Allan? May 8400GS na acer x3200 ko....Saan makakabili?
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Wow. ok ito. Magkano ito sa Japan Bro Allan? May 8400GS na acer x3200 ko....Saan makakabili?
Tokyo, Akihabara district, T-Zone DIY (Store name) - less than an hour from where you'd be staying. Approx Yen8500 (mahal pa rin considering the current rate of the Yen) when I saw it just last Friday night.
Your Acer is shouting "You Complete Me" on this card. ;D
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Wag...Tukso...layuan mo ako. :D
I'll take note of the place. Lamig......
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Wag...Tukso...layuan mo ako. :D
I'll take note of the place. Lamig......
Stores are usually open from 10:30am to 8:00pm. Credit card payment is accepted. Hehehe.
Kahit di ka bibili ng 9500GT, it should be a very interesting experience to visit the backstreets of Akihabara and check out the DIY PC (parts) shops. In addition to T-Zone DIY, check mo Dos Para, Clevery and Sofmap. Dikit-dikit lang sila (literally). Malay mo makakita ka ng CPU (AMD) upgrade for your Acer. Dun ka na rin mag-dinner ng steak sa likod ng T-Zone. :)
Kung gusto mo ng Taiyo Yuden (THATS brand) DVD-R (No. 1 in the world, Made in Japan), dun din sa likod ng T-Zone, may maliit na store (parang Kiosk/Sundry Shop lang halos sa liit pero umaaapaw ang tinda hanggang labas) selling a spool of 50 disks for around 1,500yen. It's very difficult to find original Taiyo Yuden disks in Metro Manila.
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Thanks. Pagbalik ko na lang siguro. Buti na lang may internet access dito. hehehe. Will probably visit the place. Thanks Allan. Lamig....Tulo na uhog ko..hehehe...
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I just want to ask any of the members if they have experienced the following:
My AntiVirus(AVG Free 8 ) had identified and isolated the "My Big Fish Kahuna" game included in the Acer package (It's the one that will provide you with a free Aquarium screen saver), Nothing wrong for me, the antivirus was seemingly over protective, however, the following day, once the daily scheduled scan started; it got fixated to a Windows PiF file, that it just kept scanning and scanning for >1hour(normally the scheduled scan lasts for 40-54 minutes),hence, I googled the file,and on of the sites mentioned that a Pif file works as a "Virus/Trojan in the Vista OS" and recommended a registry cleaner/malware scan.
I was able to do the registry repair sans the malware scan, then I repeated the scan (however, it's not the scheduled more nitpicking scan) and it finished in 20 minutes.
Should I be worried?
The Acer Kahuna...does it really have a Trojan?
Activity is still fast, rendering time is the same.
BTW...I defragmented the night before, as well as a Disk C check. The defrag lasted for 4 hours, the disc check for about an hour.
Thank you for those who will share their opinions or experiences.
(Just worried) :-[
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I just want to ask any of the members if they have experienced the following:
My AntiVirus(AVG Free 8 ) had identified and isolated the "My Big Fish Kahuna" game included in the Acer package (It's the one that will provide you with a free Aquarium screen saver), Nothing wrong for me, the antivirus was seemingly over protective, however, the following day, once the daily scheduled scan started; it got fixated to a Windows PiF file, that it just kept scanning and scanning for >1hour(normally the scheduled scan lasts for 40-54 minutes),hence, I googled the file,and on of the sites mentioned that a Pif file works as a "Virus/Trojan in the Vista OS" and recommended a registry cleaner/malware scan.
I was able to do the registry repair sans the malware scan, then I repeated the scan (however, it's not the scheduled more nitpicking scan) and it finished in 20 minutes.
Should I be worried?
The Acer Kahuna...does it really have a Trojan?
Activity is still fast, rendering time is the same.
BTW...I defragmented the night before, as well as a Disk C check. The defrag lasted for 4 hours, the disc check for about an hour.
Thank you for those who will share their opinions or experiences.
(Just worried) :-[
Ditch AVG and get Avira Antivir instead. The past few months have not been good for AVG.
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Update;
I noticed that my LAN does not have any problem anymore ever since I changed my usb attached keyboard and mouse to a PS2 Mouse and Keyboard(since my kids started playing games on my Acer).
For info to those who also reported losing their internet connection when they've used the Acer for a long time.
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my acer runs almost 24/7 - downloads sa torrents
still no issues sa LAN
and ohh.. i dont use usb keys and mouse, i use the stock ones
i guess related xa sa hardware mo? yung wireless usb yun gamit mo alfie ryt?
conflict ata or ewan.. havent tried using wireless dito
plus my acer runs cool kahit gnun ko katagal xa ginagamit (compared sa old PC ko na super hot ng room ko pag gnun katagal ko xa ginagamit)
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carlhenry- Yes...dati...Logitech Wireless...pero no'on nag games na ang mga anak ko, pinalitan ko nang 150 pesos na PS2 CDR-King na mouse at keyboard....aba....nawala ang problema sa LAN, kaya naka-garajhe na ang wireless ko. Sa bago ko na lang na ma-i-bu-buo ito ila-lagay.....ba-bagsak ang presyo nang Intel kaya, mag-bu-buo uli ako. ;)
Na-i-share ko lang, kasi may nag post dati rati na pareho ang problema sa akin ukol sa LAN.
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ahh yup
plano ko kasi bumili rin ng wireless siguro yung katulad sayo yung nakita ko sa octagon
pero yun.. napa 2 isip ako baka related yun sa wireless hardware mo
meron ba dito gumagamit wireless keyboard mouse na walang problems sa LAN?
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I currently use Adesso RF wireless keyboard w/ trackball nuilt in. No LAN problems so far.
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ung may problema na mawala ang internet nila may solution ako dyan...try to turn it off including ur AVR...after a few seconds try it on again and voila!! balik na internet mo... :)
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When I shifted to the cheap PS2 keyboard and Mouse, I noticed that no matter how long I use it, I don't get disconnected anymore. I think rebooting it is such a hassle. ;) ;D
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I transferred my X3200 back to my room and hooked it up to Belkin KVM that uses SCROLL LOCK as the shortcut key to switch PC's.
Unfortunately, this conflicts with Acer's "Empowering Technology" program, would anyone be kind enough to help me find the quick way to change the SCROLL LOCK assignment for Acer's tool so that it won't conflict with my BELKIN KVM?
Thanks in advance.
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hi. I plan to buy a htpc mainly for mkv viewing? Is this model same as x1200? Also pwede na ba ito vs a diy setup? Tia
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hi. I plan to buy a htpc mainly for mkv viewing? Is this model same as x1200? Also pwede na ba ito vs a diy setup? Tia
Check out: http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=93353.0.
You can actually get better components for a cheaper price with a DIY setup.
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check also the X1200 thread in AVSForum. some are having issues with their X1200 units. i originally planned to buy one, but i opted for the DIY path.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1046863&page=12 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1046863&page=12)
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To those interested the 9400GT Low profile is now available at the PC City Store in Gilmore, it has the 1gig variant and goes for only 2.4K, it has HDMI out as well.
I didn't get one since I'm still happy with my 8600gts, besides, the bracket was not included, thus, if you get one you'll need to use your 8600GTS low profile bracket.
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I just got a text message from Jack Ryan stating that he went to PC City in Gilmore and saw only the full sized 9400GT video card.
I am so sure that I saw the low profile, and yes the 9400GT has a full size variant, it's the Palit brand with the words HD and HDMI on the box, and in fact after the full sized Videocard was shown to me, I asked for the one with the HDMI out and Viola!!!, it's a low profile, I fully inspected it and it has the same size as my 8600....but as I have posted, the bracket was not included.
If ever I made a mistake it's probably the name of the store, now to set things straight, it's the store that sells the Delux keyboards and prominently displayed on the right side of the door once you get it.
Again the price quoted was initially 2.4K and reduced to 2.35K "if I get it now w/o the bracket", and another thing it's the one with the 1Gig variant, I believe the full size was only 512mb.
Jack Ryan my friend, I can always accompany you if you wish, just text back when you want to. ;)
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Hi Alfie,
No worries. I was around that area after I visited an LFS for my other hobby. I had some time to spare so decided to pass by and take a look while also looking for another 1TB - 1.5TB hard drive.
I came from E. Rodriguez side of Gilmore, so it was like to my left after I went through the intersection and it is like 3rd shop from the corner. I asked the lady sales assistant for the card but they only showed me the full card. They also asked the Chinese guy who was seated at the desk area and he only mentioned the cards were their only delivery. I asked again for low profile video card and the sales lady was suggesting that I consider the 8400 --- I indicated that I already have it.
Cheers,
JackRyan
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Anyway, the offer stands, just tell me when you want to, I'll accompany you. ;)
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OK ito 9400GT. Marami pa raw bang stock sir?
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guys anong 9400gt yan? yan ba yung 32 stream processors or yung 16 lang parang 8400?
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Ang tanda ko sa nabasa ko, ay iyun' 32 bit ang nakalagay, ito'y doon sa may HDMI at HDTV na naka-paskil sa kaniyan'g kahon. 1 Gig lang siya at low profile.
Paki-check ninyo na lang, kasi, di' ako bumili. Kaya di' ako sigurado sa sagot ko.
Mukha naman ka-kalat siya ay di' lang sa PC City, basta tandaan ninyo na lang na ito iyun' 9400GT na may HDMI at HDTV na nakalagay sa kahon.
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guys try niyo pala hanap ng zotac 9400gt synergy edition. low profile yun 32 stream processors parang 8600gt pero walang external power connector kaya pwede ata to sa ating acer. check niyo lang kung interested kayu. feel ko naman mabilis yan kaysa 8400.
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Saan available 9400gt? Sa mga nakabili po, Kamusta po performance?
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I went back to PC City today at lunch time, and asked fro the 9400GT, and the sales person, who was glad to see me even announced "Sir we found the adapter bracket, you're right, it should come with one", anyway I hurriedly bught it, and at the Office, I had the presence of mind to inspect it, and to my surprise the tag on the board itself said "8400GT 256mb", it was at this time that I was talking to Jack Ryna on the phone and giving instructions on the salesperson's name and to request for the adapter bracket, anyway, Jack Ryan was supposed to go there, when I noticed the label, so I told him to wait a while since I was still hoping this is just a misprint and I decided to install the card to my office desktop,and lo' and behold....it's a 256mb 8400GS. :'( :P
I went back to the store and they readily offered a reimbursement.
So I'm back looking for the low profile 9400GT.....but I think it's still not available with the Palit brand, hopefully, one will be available soon here in the metro. :P
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nakita ko na specs ng 9400gt parang overclocked edition lang ng 8500gt. Ok narin kasi mabagal talaga 8400
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ahh sayang naman yun 9400.. mejo parang scam yun ahh tsk tsk
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Saan available 9400gt? Sa mga nakabili po, Kamusta po performance?
Chess kelan ka babalik dito? I saw the Zotac 9400 Low Profile for about 5,900 yen (or about 2,950 pesos). Meron din ELSA Brand na 9400 pero mas mahal. Yung Leadtek na 9500 Low Profile is down to 8,000 yen (4,000 pesos - mahal pa rin).
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He-He mga kaibigan ko, sa mas yadon' limitacion nang X3200 natin, eh' na-isip ko na-lang mag-ba-buo nang Core2Duo kay Kiko(may thread siya na nag-bu-buo sa Video Sources)
Noon una, ay iyun' AMD na 64X 5700 sana ang bu-buo in namin, kaya lang sabi niya sa akin, talaga raw iba ang compatibilty nang mga Intel, kaya nag Intel ako.....Nakupo, to-too nga, talagang iba ang linaw at smoothness nang video, ang pagsi-sisi ko lang ay nilagay ko pa ang 9600GT, sana iyun' 9400GT na-lang dahil naka HDMI na iyun', tapos mas mura pa, siya ngayon ang naka-lagay sa luma kong Dual Core...at ang pinakamasarap nito, ay very affordable na anh Core2Duo, talagang highly recommended si Kiko.
Kaya para sa akin, kaysa gastusan ninyo iyan X3200 ninyo, tapos gagamitin ninyo sa Gaming eh' baka bumigay lang iyan (ang capacitor raw ang madalas masira sa Gaming ngayon), eh' pag bumigay iyun' ACER natin, wala nang remedyo iyan, pati casing palit.
Maganda naman may isa ka pang PC eh' mura na ngayon, may back up HTPC kana at may gaming rig ka pa. ;D
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Mga sirs, anybody upgraded their drives with Blu-ray rom or blu-ray burner? It seems until now there is a shortages in stocks for sale her in the Philippines..
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@Alfie: bro, ano spec ng setup mo and how much ang total cost?
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Kasing mura nang Acer X3200......pero Intel C2D na 2.88; 500GHDD; Asus MoBo; 4G Team Elite RAM; LG SATA DVD Writer.(mura pa sa ACER X3200 nang dalawang daan)
Heto' ang Thread niya, kontackin ninyo na-lang http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=87810.msg984212#msg984212 (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=87810.msg984212#msg984212)
Iyun' 9600GT; extra 500 HDD at Hec Power Supply galing sa luma kong Dual Core.
Kontackin mo na-lang si Kiko. Cool na Cool talaga siya.
Kaya lang na-punta sa bagong binu-o kasi na-i-crash nang mga anak ko ang Gaming PC niya, MoBo anf problema, tapos siyempre takbo ako kay Kiko, kalampag kaagad umagang umaga sa bahay nila, pero pag uwi ko sa bahay, nag-la-laro na nang resource hungry games ang mga binata ko sa ACER, ko...natakot tuloy ako, sabi ko kay Kiko.....Ibu-o na niya ang n\mga bata, kaya ayun, dito ako ngayon uli solo ko na ang Acer ko.
Isa kasing maganda sa ACER ay ang Porma niya, pero na-isip ko, pag nasira...patay...baka ATOM ang mapalit para lang ma-maintain ang proma, so a-alagaan ko na lang, bawal uli ang games. ;)
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@Alfie: i see. meron na rin ako nabuo na HTPC with AMD X2 5200. total damage for me was around P14K. my system spec is on the other thread. before that, i tried to contact Kiko but no reply. good thing na rin coz natuto ako mgresearch on my own and mas nakamura sa setup ko.
un din naisip ko dati, if masira ung Acer.. problema na. maganda porma pero limited upgrade choices. cheers sa new HTPC mo! ;D
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Mga sirs, anybody upgraded their drives with Blu-ray rom or blu-ray burner? It seems until now there is a shortages in stocks for sale her in the Philippines..
Meron na po bang available Bluray rom drive/burner sa market? Anyone upgraded their optical drive to bluray?
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The following are minimum system requirements for a Blu Ray drive:
System Requirements:
Pentium 4 2.0GHz or faster CPU
512MB or more RAM
30GB HDD available capacity
Available Serial ATA connection
Windows XP Service Pack 2
Check your systems Blue-ray readiness
For High Definition BD Playback & Authoring:
Pentium D 3.4GHz or faster CPU and 1GB or more RAM
HDCP capable graphics card with 256MB RAM, PCI Express x16, 1920x1200 resolution, 32bit color
GPU : nVidia GeForce 6600GT / 7600GT / 7800GTX512 / 7900GX2 / 7900GTX / 7950GX2 and ATI X1600 / X1800 / X1900 series are recommended
60GB HDD available capacity
HDCP capable Monitor or TV for High Definition digital output
1.1. Minimum System Requirements
■ For Burning/Mastering
❖ Nvidia 6600GT, ATI X1600 GPU
❖ Monitor Resolution of 1280x1024
■ For HD Video* Playback
FireWire (IEEE 1394) or USB 2.0-equipped
computer
❖
Pentium 4 Dual Core 3GHz processor or higher,
or PowerPC G4 or higher, or Mac Intel Core
Duo processor
❖
❖ 512MB of RAM minimum
Windows XP with Service Pack 2, or Mac OS
10.4.8 or higher
❖
* To play a protected BD movie in HD through a digital DVI or HDMI interface: HDCP GPU + HDCP ready display.
It seems that our X3200 is just a little over the minimum system requirements,and considering that we're not really that familiar with our MoBo(wheter the capacitors can take it), it's probably best to be content with the stocks on hand.
There is such a thing as an essential/intelligent upgrade.e.g. increase HDD capacity, increase memory etc....however...
I don't think that incorporating a Blu Ray drive will do our unit any good.
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Hey Alfie, any new sightings of the elusive low profile card from our favorite "suki" place? ;D
I came back from an overseas trip and got a Buffalo 1.5TB for a price of a 1TB here. I connected to the X3200 and put it on top of the case and quickly noticed (actually I forgot) that it the X3200 with the low profile graphics card generate more than the usual ambient temp --- and relocated the drive enclosure.
I'll probably have time this weekend to try the tips you provided during our phone chat --- including finally testing the quad core AMD 65watts chip that they use for the US released X3200 which have been idling here since December ;)
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JackRyan, No more sightings, what I did was just exchange the fake low profile to a real one and used it on my son's old Dual Core, then I got the 9600GT and transferred it to our newly built C2D 2.8Ghz. For now, my Acer X3200 has become a full time HTPC.
BTW, I was able to buy the LG4260Fr, afterwhich, I connected the X3200 and the 8400GS was able to produce quite a neat 1080P. ;) ;D
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That's a good move, indeed !!! :D
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wow, quadcore.... :o Is this the AMD 9100e sir?
Waiting....
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Yesterday, I was at the Gaisano Store in Gilmore trying to retrieve my Liteon DVD Writer that was sent for RMA? since it was still under warranty, anyway, I chanced upon a woman who was returning her "X3200 because the on button would not operate", she also told me that she had returned her unit "thrice"and she kept having problems with her unit. She only does "regular work in the office with her Acer". So I thought of posting this as a heads up regarding the start button of the Acer, since when I opened mine, it really looks fragile,and is prone to break if misaligned, or having a heavy hand.
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wow, quadcore.... :o Is this the AMD 9100e sir?
Waiting....
AMD Phenom X4 64
9350e
2.0 Ghz True Quad-Core Design
4.0 MB Total L2+L3 Cache
Energy Efficient 65w
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Jack Ryan- Naka-ka-pnghinayan na ilagay mo ito sa X3200 natin, bumo'o ka na lang, marming bagong lumbas na maga-gandang MoBo, maku-kuha mo pa ang mga gusto mong specs, katulad nang hi-end na video card, at sturdy MoBo, iyun' nasa Acer natin tagilid, mukhang mahi-hina ang mga linagay nang Acer, iyun'naka-usap kong Babae, galit na sa Acer, tatlong beses a raw niyang bina-balik iyun' X3200 niya. :-\
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I just want to share my kid's experience with the 1080p resolutions with our X3200.
For the Left4Dead game, the X3200 can perform well without lag if you downscale the graphics to 1920X720, for 1080p, the game crashes during intensive shootings. Setup for LAN failed(probably due to the XP OS of the other 2 pcs)
For Spores, 1080p can result to some visual lags, however, the game remains playable, but still can perform best at a lower resolution.
For Dawn Of War, LAN play was possible,however, the PC with C2D processor has to be the host, when the X3200 became the host, it crashed the game.
Red Alert Uprisisng was also playable with 1080p.
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mga sir anong energy consumption nito? ilan kayang watts?...:)
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kuya alfie... binili mo un L4D mo or download lang?
my 1st L4D download nagcracrash tlg..
pero nagtry aq ulit ng download khit mejo umabot ako ng ilang days.. (hehe libre naman e..)
may mga changes sa folders and files sa L4D ko and i've found out na may babaguhin ka sa rev.ini..
now i'm playing L4D w/o any crash.. yun nga lang mejo ndi pq naguupgrade ng x3200 ko so i'm playing it with lowest settings.. tska kase mahirap magmadali bili ng bili bka mpabili din ako ng 8400GS w/c is not bad nmn tlg pero meron plang superb better 9500gt(Available nb sa pinas? magkanu?)... yun nga lang walang pambili.. xD
i'm planning to buy set of x3200 again pero help mo nmn ako kuya alfie bout sa ups.. tska sa mga concern n x3200 user.. thank you po if you want to help me... :)
(***FOR 5pcs of x3200***)
1. memory card 1gb -> 2gb ddr2 kingston (ok nb yan or higher?)
2. video card, magkanu un 8400GS? 9500GT(if available na sa pinas)?
3. ano pa po b? yan plang po ang recent events n alam ko e..
4. please pa refer po kung san makakabili ng mura...
and kuya.. about my old post, ngaun lang ako ulit nagtry maghnap ng current news about x3200 naten.. Vista -> XP SP2
naging busy po kc sa pag-aaral kaya natagalan..
(my reason po kaya ayoko ng vista sa x3200 is mejo need ng higher memory card... wala pa ako pera para dun.. just for now sana XP muna..)
e2 po yun site na nakita ko para maging XP un Vista naten sa x3200 kaso ang problema walang nakalagay kung intel sila or amd... coz most of the forums i've visited gumana nga kaso intel sila..
mejo pagod ako ngaun kakawork(for my tuition) kya wala akong time para magtrial and error.. baka meron adventurous na kagaya ko b4.. bka gs2 nyo itry itong procedure...
HOW TO MAKE x3200 VISTA to XP SP2/SP3 w/ complete drivers and etc...
http://www.techsupportforum.com/hardware-support/driver-support/356718-solved-driver-audio-aspire-x3200.html
lastly, mejo nalilito lang ako sa x3200 sa x1200, so before i buy x3200 again.. w/c one is better nga ba?
thanks po sa lahat ng magcocomment ;)
(dami kong tanung senxa na.. naipon sa tagal...) ;D
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goodguy939,
Heto ang mga sagot ko:
1) L4D namin, siyempre Quiapo acquired, prinsipio ko kasi "if >5gigs, quiapo 1st, if corrupt, download iso install via Daemon, so far halos lahat sa Quiapo. ;) ;D
2) Tungkol sa Power supply nang X3200- ito ang na-i-post nang mga member natin dati, pati na rin sa website nila=220 watts
3) sagot muna sa mga tanonog mo:
1. memory card 1gb -> 2gb ddr2 kingston (ok nb yan or higher?)
OK ito, pero sa akin naka 3 gig ako; tapos mas maganda ang Corsair O' kaya Team Elite, may heat diffuser, sa to-too lang pwede ang MoBo natin sa 4 Gig, mas mabilis, kahit di' makita nang VISTA Home Basic natin(3 gig lang ang nakikita)
2. video card, magkanu un 8400GS? 9500GT(if available na sa pinas)?
8400gs ay 1.4K na lang, mukhang nag-kalat ngayon sa Gilmore, dati-dati, da RSun at Greenhills lang meron, iyun' nga na-nabili kong 9400 na low profile eh' fake, 8400gs lang pala, kaya ngayon may full size 9400 ako, naka-kabit sa isang C2D pc na mga anak ko.
Kalimutan mo na ang 9500GT, ang Power supply natin ay 220watts lang, pag ito ang sinalpak mo, ma-pi-pilitan kang mag-hanap nang pang microatx na power supply, mahirap iyun' at sa pag-ka-ka-alam ko hangang 350watts lang ang mayroon, dagdag gastos ka sa wala, tapos ano ang ga-gawin mo sa original mong 220watts?
3. ano pa po b? yan plang po ang recent events n alam ko e..
4. please pa refer po kung san makakabili ng mura...
Sa Gilmore pa rin ako, kung taga Manila ka sa RSun; sa Paranaque Quest Logic
Vista -> XP SP2
Kalimutan mo na ito, may Windows 7 na. ;) ;D
basahin mo ito...http://www.pcworld.com/article/143414/windows_xp_vs_vista_an_explosion_of_opinion.html (http://www.pcworld.com/article/143414/windows_xp_vs_vista_an_explosion_of_opinion.html)
Sa-sama lang ang loob mo sa XP, kung ako sa iyo, mag-buo ka na lang nang panibagong AMD based PC, huling kwenta namin ni Kiko, pag pareho nang specs nang X3200 natin 12K na lang(kasama ang XPsp3 kay Kiko). Kung gusto mong Phenom, 16-17K, mas matibay, ang MoBo 780g, ang capacitors solid na, di' tulad nang Acer natin. NVIDIA na hindi tayo sigurado sa capcitor, paki-basa iyun' pa-bala ko na post tungkol doon sa Babae na na-meet ko sa Gaisano tatlong beses nang nag crash ang X3200 niya..naka-katakot talaga. :P
OO' nga pala sa -kakaikot ko kung saan saan PC shops, mayroon talaga palang C2D na X3200, siguro ito iyun ti-nutukoy na pwedeng lagyan nang XP, pero sa link na binigay mo, mukhang may problema sa audio drivers, eh' naka-kagulat kasi Realtek lang namn iyun' bakit kaya ayaw gumana. ???
Ang C2D na X3200 ay 27K ang dinig kong presyo, pero baka nag-ka-kamali ako, paki check na lang. Kung bi-bili ka talaga nang X3200 heto na muna ang targetin mo.
.....pero kung ako ang ta-tanogin mo, siyempe ang payo ko, mag-bou ka na lang, mura na, specs mo pa. ;) ;D
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okey.. maraming salamat kuya alfie.. mejo mahaba un reply mo.. pasenxa na sa abala.. :D
mejo kinabahan ako s nasbi mo n x3200 na nagcrash.. awch... :'(
kawawa nmn un owners nun
salamt po ulit...
cge po try ko magbuo muna ng specs...
dami ko tlg matututunan d2..
pagaralan ko na nga lang un win7.... headache tlg un xp sa x3200.. hehe.. :D
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BTW, for those having problems installing certain games in your Vista, you'll have to turn off your UAC; Here's the link on how to do it, you can turn it on afterwards once you have successfully installed your game.http://www.vista4beginners.com/How-to-disable-UAC (http://www.vista4beginners.com/How-to-disable-UAC)
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One thing na nagbother sakin nung binili ko yung acer na to nakapost na specs may kasamang 8400 discretegraphics meaning meron dapat siyang kasamang 8400 video card. bakit walang nagreklamo na kulang siya?
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He-he embedded chips iyun' ika nga discrete...pag nag-kabit ka nang 8400gs, kayang maging Hybrid SLI. ;D
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nakakatakot naman yung acer na nag cacrash.. halos 24/7 on yung acer x3200 and use ko for long hours of gaming. nag iisang pc ko kasi to tsk tsk
wala pang spare pambili ng bago chka papagalitan ako ng naynay ko. wahhh
anyway no problems so far pero ayoko na hintayin masira pa xa :'(
labs ko tong acer poging pogi yung dating hehe
iingatan ko na xa
konting ingat rin sa pag press ng ON button!
hmm btw, may nakita ako sa net yung x3200 nila (of course sa ibang bansa) nakalagay is 9500?
iba psu nila or may chance na kaya? kung stock 220w yung psu nila, baka may hiccups yung performance nun?
lastly,
inalis ko yung 8400 ko kasi feeling ko umiinit xa (naririnig ko na yung fan sobrang lakas). di rin kasi ako satisfied sa performance gain, little to no difference yung pansin ko (2k9, marvel ultimate alliance, DMC4... etc..) wala naman bang prob pagka kinabit ko yun? sayang kasi.. kinakabahan lang ako liit kasi case tpos hindi aircon yung room ko bka matunaw yung nasa loob.
5-8hrs ako naglalaro kung walang pasok... ok lang kabit ko xa ulit o delikado kasi walang extra cooling?
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carlhenry- I always use a 16" electric fan to help dissipate the heat(and helps me cool down too ;D v ), and per my experience, having the Videocard is a tad better since it will help minimize the stress on the processor and RAM. ;)
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use another small print video card like e.g hd4670. di mo naman kailangan ipilit mag hybrid sli kasi mas malakas pa un card duon. kaya pa naman ata ng ps un card. imho.
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The hd4670 has no low profile variant, the X3200 can only accommodate a low profile video card, furthermore, it seems there will be some conflict(dunno if someone had tried using an ATI card on NVIDIA embedded chips MoBo) due to the MoBo, being embedded with NVIDIA chips.
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I've just purchased wd mybook 1tb w/ esata. Every I used the esata connection with my acer x3200, the computer would hang. I dont have problem with the usb connection.
I've followed all the instructions, boot up the Wd first, then the computer. It still hangs.
Any gurus here to shed what's wrong?
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Problem is the esata connection, it happened to me with my HDD esata dock, kindly return your WD and report the defect, I'm sure they'll immediately change your unit.
BTW with our X3200 since it's OS is VISTA, you do not need to reboot your the computer. The esata HDD is immediately recognized and immediately installed if there's no defect. ;)
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I got no problem with my e-sata... I think kung vista ang OS mas madali ma detect...
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may nakita akong treasure sa tpc!!
9600 low profile
please tell me pwede to sa acer x3200?
anyway here's the link:
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=3410184
simple fact:
40% Power Efficient
Today's computer makers are in the pursuit of environmental protection and energy saving. Therefore, SPARKLE conforms to environmental protection and energy saving, takes the lead in launching the GeForce 9600 GT graphics card. With NVIDIA's advanced chip technology and strong R&D capabilities of SPARKLE, the power saving ability of the GeForce 9600 GT graphics card knocks the socks off the consumers. Keeping the same performance and without the need of external power supply, the card's overall power consumption downs to 59W from 96W, with incredible 40% power consumption efficiency. Now Sparkle GeForce 9600 GT graphics card can help users to achieve reduction of carbon emission and energy efficiency.
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carlhenry- iyun' isang PC nang mga anak ko ay naka 9600GT, ang tanda ko ay may sariling power supply ito' so kung ganito rin ang Low profile na ito' ay duda akong pwede sa ating X3200. :P
Iyun' nasa dulo, mukhang iyun' ang plug para sa power;
(http://images.tigerdirect.com/SkuImages/gallery/large/S15-9612-04.jpg)
Ewan' ko lang kung iba ang experensya nang iba.....sayang mahal sita eh' pitong libo, kung hindi, OK sanang ipag-sa-palaran.
Mukhang pwede ito' sa mga naka I'Cute Horizontal Mini na casing.
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uu nakakatulo laway.. hmm sana kung mga 2-3k pwede pa mag adventure jan.
ipon ipon na lang..
onga pala.. nakakatulong ba yung 8400 sa pag play ng video?
dati kasi nag pplay ako mp4 nag lalag nung wala pa 8400 ko
kaso may coreavc na nag suggest ata dito nkalimutan ko bsta dito ko napulot yun nag smooth na xa
habang wala pa yung 8400 ha..
pero anyway ask lang kng nakakatulong lang rin yung 8400
para maiwas stress
kinabit ko na ulit yung 8400 ko kasi sabi ata ni sir alfie na
nakaka ease ng stress yun sa gaming ko
so coreavc + 8400 = less stress? = tipidkuryente?
oh one more thing.. yung geforce boost kasi increase performance.. hmm so expect ko mas malakas daloy ng kuryente dun?
high voltage = less stress? low voltage = more stress?
kung kayo papipiliin ano jan and baket? and sa x3200's case yan nga ba tlga nangyayare or geforce boost saves elec rin? ayan mejo weird and nakakalito para saken
ayun thanks. nakakapraning lang gsto ko magtipid ng kuryente as much as possible hehe
ps. last last na ulit
nagcacanvass ako ng external tv tuner
tumingin na ko kaso di ako sure sa mga nakita ko
kasi may mga nakita ako A/V plug bsta parang gnun hinahanap ko sa box yung image ng
kabitan ng cable para mkanood ako ng tv nag ask ako sa salesman kaso parang di nya alam binebnta nya (cdrking lang kasi para mura) any suggestions sa mga dapat na hanapin kong features?
makakanood ba ko ng tv habang gamit ko pc or magiging TV tlga xa pag naka-on yung tuner?
mukhang di rin kasi alam ng salesman
whew~ dami ko tanong :P
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Power consumption is related to the amperage/wattage of your power supply, so even if you add another video card, as long as amperage of the power supply can provide the required voltage power to that particular hardware, your consumption still remains the same.
What is dangerous and should be your concern is that when we have an unknown or generic power supply is it's undesired effects on the capacitors of the Mother Board, which might break down iif it is not of the solid state variety.
The ease of processing that will lessen the stress on your PC will be more beneficial on your RAM, and Hard Drive....and of course your processor.
Now regarding the TV Tuner, the one I got is the TV box that has a video capture function, since I do some video processing on the side, and since most TV tuners are of the analog variety, I think, they're virtually consistent with each other.
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i see.. ang iniisip ko kasi less hardware used, less electricity
parang naka sleep.. energy saver parang gnun
thanks sa info ;)
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share ko lang.. finally! gumana na yun XP SP2 sa X3200 ko... :D
check nyo nlng 2.. http://www.techsupportforum.com/hardware-support/driver-support/356718-solved-driver-audio-aspire-x3200.html
use nlite lang tlg and add drivers on your modified OS....
kuya Alfie.. naubusan nq ng stock na x3200... :-\ pero okey lang.. nagtry ako ng x1200...
gumana din jan un modified OS ko... 100% w/o errors... :D
laki ng mmry used ng vista eh..
e wala kc ako pera pang ups ng mmry cards 3Gig.. 2 Gig lang budget q... so balik XP nlng ulit na mas better p tlg sa vista... ;D
sa susunod q nlng try un windows 7...
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goodguy939,
Maganda ang nagawa no, congratulations. Sana' naman ay na-i-post mo nang step-by-step ang process nang pag lipat sa XP. Freeware ba ang nlite? dati kasi ang tinging ko, dapat ma-i-flush dapat ang MoBo para mag-karoon na-ide sa Bios, tapos, heto' pala ang solution.
Bumili ka rin ba ng X1200? di' ba 21K siya? mayroon akong nakitang Intel ang processor, iyun' ba ang binili mo?, O' AMD pa rin?.
Salamat na lang sa mga i-sa-sagot mo.
Alfie
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Pede kaya windows 7 sa x3200 natin?
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for Windows 7:
Minimum recommended hardware
Processor speed: 1 GHz processor (32- or 64-bit)
Memory (RAM): 1 GB of RAM (32-bit); 2 GB of RAM (64-bit)
Graphics card: Support for DirectX 9 graphics device with 128MB of memory (for Aero)
HDD free space: 16 GB of available disk space (32-bit); 20 GB of available disk space (64-bit)
Optical drive: DVD-R/W
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Pede kaya windows 7 sa x3200 natin?
I think so, probably configured even without the ide config. ;)
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Kayang kaya.... ;D
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i saw the core2duo variant ng x3200/x1200 or kung ano man bsta same ichura ng case
anyway..
surprised na intel x3000 yung graphics nya which is very very very disappointing. could've been geforce 9300
better stick with the amd/geforce combination -- imo
saw it sa robinsons (nakalimutan ko lang kung anong store)
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question:
ano bang tawag sa PSU ng x3200 naten?
di ko kasi alam pano sasabihin pag nasa store ako
currently looking for 350-400w na PSU for upgrade
sa x3200
i papa mod ko kasi xa
clear side panel, added ventilation, lights etc..
kung lam nyo san rin makakabili sobrang thanks
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anu po video card ang ginamit nyo for upgrade?
8500gt MSI
9500gt MSI
ati 4650 powercolor?
without modifying your casing
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Help. Ayaw gumana ng e-sata ko. may driver ba na pede download?
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same here bro, my esata will connect, but hangs the computer after a few minutes.
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It's probably the dock or the casing.
I've tried several casings with esata, in fact, I recently acquired a very cheap esata from CDR King for only 550 pesos,and you guess right, I've exchanged and tried a couple and none works...he-he, I'm keeping it though, because the 2.0 USB works, besides where will you find a cheap HDD Dock.
The docks and casing that worked with me are the following:
1) RSun dock-changed twice, the 1st was not detected (Thought it's my esata MoBo) the 2nd, hangs my Acer, the third works well, but I'm now using it for the USB, since it seems to be the most fragile.
2) The Red HDD Dock from Tipid PC going for only 1K, also is authentic,I bought 2, one bare,and the other model with card slots, the CF won't work though.
3) Ovation Casing w/ esata-so far my 2 ovation still works fine.
esata is great most especially now that we move files to 500G HDD to 1.5TB HDD.
There are other models being sold, ranging from 1.5K to 3.5K, I believe Jack Ryan has a couple of them and they work.
To check if your esata really works,you can get an esata connector being sold for 150 to 250 pesos, connect them to any desktop with Vista OS or if your OS is still XP, just reboot once you've connected your dock or casing with esata, now if it gets detected, then....woe...another bad news for the acer. :'(
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anu po video card ang ginamit nyo for upgrade?
8500gt MSI
9500gt MSI
ati 4650 powercolor?
without modifying your casing
Here is Metro Manila, the only one with a low profile is the 8400. If you can get the 9500 low profile, well and good.
The MoBo's chips are made by NVIDIA, so it's wise to stay away from ATI Video cards.
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Sir Alfie, thanks for your immediate reply. Actually, before my e-sata was doing good. I connected it with various HDD docks and with my e-great nmt with e-sata got no problems. But recently, Just noticed and I don't know why...It is not detecting my external HDD via e-sata. Hmmm...but for usb no prob. working flawlessly.
I tried my other e-sata docks from my other computer and no prob encountered.
Are there any other methods to check my e-sata? Thanks in advance.
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Chess,
Here's what I'll do, given the data you provided;
Step 1: Try the casing/dock esata connection with my egreat, and if gets detected then I'll go to step 2
Step 2: Buy the 150 pesos (or 250 to some) esata to sata cable connector.
Install it to my ACER
Reboot, then connect the dock/casing with esata
(http://i31.tinypic.com/xpbg3r.jpg)
If the above works, then, it's probably the overheating problem again of the MoBo, much like what I experience with my LAN connection(reported this months ago as a liability of our X3200,good thing there is now the USB based LAN connector).
BTW...our IT expert here in our office recommended that you sparingly spray WD40 on your esata cable connector, just in case, your connector has some oxidation problems.
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I bought this earlier, the esata does not work, but my ovation and HDD docking works.
Avoid it, here's the picture;
(http://i32.tinypic.com/mvtgyv.jpg)
These are the ones that worked:
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh206/TPC_Lance_R/OVATIONeSATA4.jpg?t=1250362629)
(http://i30.tinypic.com/r87dz8.jpg)
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Sir Alfie, where can i buy esata to sata cable connector? Is it normally available in computer shops?
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TipidPC; Here's one seller:http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=4091196 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=4091196)
There's a lot more seller, just browse thru their threads.
Yup, saw some being sold at the Gilmore IT Building, it's the trend nowadays to have an existing esata in your pc, most espeically if your have Vista as your OS. ;)
BTW, if you can buy the Ovation HDD enclosure (at times being sold with a 500G or 1Tb Hard Disc, mostly WD) it comes with a free esata bracket,and the last 1tB I bought was only 4.9K.(considering that a 1TB internal HDD costs around 4.5 to 4.7, this is actually a very very good buy). ;) ;D
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BTW, if you can buy the Ovation HDD enclosure (at times being sold with a 500G or 1Tb Hard Disc, mostly WD) it comes with a free esata bracket,and the last 1tB I bought was only 4.9K.(considering that a 1TB internal HDD costs around 4.5 to 4.7, this is actually a very very good buy).
Wow, nice buy sir. May I know where/who did you buy from....Is it only a promo? or still available for that price?
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Annot of TipidPC, but I believe they're here now(selling the WD HDD and WDHDTV at the Personal Electronics Thread), just order from them.
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may nakatry na ba sa inyo ng radeon 4550 low profile lang siya maraming ganun sa TPC. halos kasing bilis ng geforce 8600gt kaya ok din pang games. 20watts lang max board power.
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Hindi, kasi sa tingin ko mag-ka-ka conflict, ATI ang Radeon.
Ang chips nang X3200 ay NVIDIA kaya nga SLI, ang sa ATI ay Crossfire. Ang MoBo nang X3200 ay naka Hybrid SLI at may on board NVIDIA 8200, kaya mukhang pang NVIDIA lang siya.
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wala naman po ako balak mag sli. disable ko lang sana sa bios yung onboard kasi mabagal ang geforce 8400gs kahit mag hybrid sli ka pa at mas mabilis ang 4550 kahit mas mababa power draw.
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Embedded chips nang NVIDIA and sinasabi ko, kaya kahit di' SLI may conflict.....ang mga narinig ko lang sa mga shops eh' ang conflict habang nag-lalaro ka biglang mag ha-hung or restart ang PC.
Ikaw subukan mo,tapos update mo na-lang kami; ;)
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pwede bako mag palit ng casing at power supply para mka upgrade ako ng vcard ko sa x3200? pti proc.?? ggwin k lng x4 ksi sobrang hirap humanap ng vcard na low profile !! 8400gs is not enoughXD reply nlng po :) thnx
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Sure sure you can do that since the only limiting factor for upgrades is the casing; once you change the casing, you can upgrade the power supply and per Jack Ryan(do give me pm him I know he bought himself a Phenom quad) the MoBo can accommodate the AMD quad core. You can also utilize the 9" Videocards, but stick to NVIDIA, the MOBo has NVIDIA embedded chips.
.....However, why will you do that? I believe that you bought this for it's form factor, since if you didn't, a clone better than our X3200 now will only cost you 7.9K, and it's even at those regular Gilmore Stores.
The way I calculate it, if you'll change to a better casing and power supply, it'll cost you around 7K cheapest or more if you fancy the better ones for the casing and power supply alone.
for e.g. the cheapest is icute which is around 2.5K and for the power supply the cheapest is HEC which is 4.5K....now a silverstone HTPC casing is being sold at the computer thread for 9K
The AMD processor is around 7K I believe.
Personally, I'd rather build another than modify the X3200, as long as it's serving it's maximum purpose.
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7k for a casing and a PSU for x3200 ???
why not just get a regular mid-tower w/ PSU included. ATX mid-tower w/ a 450w psu would cost around 2k.
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If you'll utilize a mid to high end power hungry video card you'll be needing a branded Power Supply.
Cheapest is still HEC at 3.2k(500watts, but a higher one is recommended for the higher end video cards)
The generic Power supply cannot sustain the amperage needed in a power hungry video card.
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@Alfie: mahal yata ung price ng HEC PSU na nakita mo.
HEC Raptor 500W -- P2,250
HEC WIN+ 550W (80PLUS Bronze) -- P3,240
HEC Cougar 700W (80PLUS Bronze) -- P4,190
source is TPC. brand new with shop warranty.
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Hi! ui have you heard of the geforce 210? gagana kaya yan sa x3200 ntin? hehe! thanks! :)
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Do you mean this?
(http://www.fudzilla.com/images/stories/2009/October/General%20News/evga_geforce_210.jpg)
It probably will, however, I believe this is budget best for 64bit applications(our Vista is only for 32bit apps), but if it's affordable, I think it'll work on our X3200. ;) ;D
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will this support sli hybrid?
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Strong chance it might, since from what I know, if it's hybrid, the MoBo will be the one to connect to the video card,and since it'll be after the chips and memory(still DDR2) I think it'll work. ;)
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mukang same performance lang yung geforce g210 sa geforce 8400gs batay dun sa nakita kong detailed specs. sana kasi maglabas narin ang nvidia ng gpu tulad sa ati. iwan na iwan na sila ng ati eh
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Hi new poh ako sa forum...
kamusta nman kayo sa mga nag upgrade ng discrete graphic like 8400GS? nu masasabi nyo sa temperature?
nag install kasi ko ng Galaxy G 100 sa X3200 ko at napansin ko ang bilis uminit... umaabot yta ng 88 deg ung saken accdg to Nvidia Sytem monitor pag naglalaro ako.
umiinit din ba ung sa inyo ng ganito?
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jeje_miah.....Umi-init din talaga siya, kaya lang, di' na namin mi-no-monotor ang temp niya, kasi, alam namam namin na AMD siya at talagang mas ma-init kaysa sa C2D nang Intel.
Ang ma-i-ishare ko lang eh...napansin ko, pag ang li-naro nang anak ko ay RPG, di masyadong ma-init, pero pag FPS, katulad nang COD...nakupo...pati ang LAN umi-init at na-wa-wala, kaya nga bumili na ako nang wireless USB.
Bilang HTPC naman, ay OK na OK siya, kahit mag-streaming ako nang avi movies, kayang kaya at hindi umi-init.
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ah ganun po ba... napansin ko kc uminit lng xa ng husto pagka install ko ng video card. iniisip ko ngang i-drill ung top ng casing ko para makahinga ung video card kasi diba ung fan ng video card face-up tapos less than 1cm ung clearance nia sa casing.
pang lalaro ko sana tong pc ng nfs shift tsaka DMC4 nag aalala lng talaga ko na baka mag overheat
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A 16" electric fan is better than drilling holes, it's cooling your unit via convection process. ;)
Plus, it'll be pleasurable to you too without damaging your casing. ;)
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Hi new poh ako sa forum...
kamusta nman kayo sa mga nag upgrade ng discrete graphic like 8400GS? nu masasabi nyo sa temperature?
nag install kasi ko ng Galaxy G 100 sa X3200 ko at napansin ko ang bilis uminit... umaabot yta ng 88 deg ung saken accdg to Nvidia Sytem monitor pag naglalaro ako.
umiinit din ba ung sa inyo ng ganito?
That's too hot for a low end card.
Try using other temperature monitoring software like GPU-Z and you might to try speed fan to check your ambient temperature that might the problem.
If you can do something to lower the temps by improving your ventilation go ahead. less temps longer lifespan
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@ Alfie
hehe yep that's what im doin. as of the moment my pc is running w/o cover. I think Im still gonna drill holes on top of it bec the pc doesnt have much cooling compared to other small form factor PC's. Better be safe. I dont want to end up buying new PC just like what to my Acer L320 when the mobo got fried after 3 hrs of gaming...
@ richmondes.
Nvidia Sys mon almost has same reading w/ GPU-Z and I really think it the cover bec it didnt even reach 80 deg when I remove the PC cover
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I dont want to end up buying new PC just like what to my Acer L320 when the mobo got fried after 3 hrs of gaming...
He-He para ka palang mga anak ko, naka-pag-luto na rin nang MoBo....pero di' naman tatlong oras lang na laro, mga 12 o' 15 hours yata...pa-palit palit sila, pati mga ka-ibigan nila. :P :-[
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wow panalo mga anak mo ha...15hrs? hehe grabe ilang linggo nga ako di makatulog nung naluto un kya yoko na maulit... BTW nu nga pala graphic card ng x3200 mo? nu pa mga upgrade na ngawa mo sa pc?
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hangang 8400GS lang.
Sa C2D na nagla-laro ang mga anak ko, Asus na ang MoBo huling sinira ay HDD, nag crash. :P
Ganyan yata talaga :'(
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im having problems with my acer x3200
ayaw na nya mag boot. pag on ko wala na ko makita and mag bleep sya
eto yung nangyare:
nag aaral lang ako nagbabasa ng ebook pdf file and ang run ko lang na apps is visual c# and yun nga yung pdf. study ako programming, maya maya nag blue screen and auto restart. after nun merong error something ang naalala ko is bad checksum or parang gnun. malas di ko nabasa. so ang una ko ginawa restart ko. after ko restart gnun pa rin yung error, so off ko for 2mins. pagka on ko wala na ko mismo makita and merong malalang bleep sound. on off on off ko wala pa rin.. so pahinga muna ko for 3hrs kasi nag dinner ako. after nun on ko na sya. nag on na naman and naload yung vista. and mejo bago kasi nakikita ko yung acer logo ng bios at startup. so try ko restart ko ulit ok naman nag load ulit. restart ako ulit and off ko yung acer logo sa bios. nag load naman ulit yung vista, so restart ulit. after ko mag restart and log in nag blue screen ulit and wala na tlga ako magawa.
naiisip ko ram yung problem. so clean ko yung pins nya gamit monggol pencil eraser pero walang effect. next step is akala ko nahihirapan yung psu (since 1 year na kaya naisip ko mejo degrade na yung performance) inalis ko yung power ng dvd. pero gnun pa rin. isip ko tuloy hard disk failure na or processor ko yung may problema. kasi pag HD failure at least may makikita ako error pag startup. its either procie or yung IGP since wala ako makita sa monitor ko.
final notes:
dati intense gamer ako use ko sya for 5hours at least tuloy tuloy gamit yung 8400gs ko, pero matagal ko na rin binenta yun mga 1month lang ata saken kasi wala ako masyado nakitang performance boost. so, yung igp na 8200 baka na use and abuse ko ng sobra. pero recently siguro 2months na, hindi na ako naglalaro ng games. ginagamit ko na lang sya for studies (programming), nood movies (mostly anime mga 25mins katagal). di ko tlga alam ano nangyare kasi hindi ko na sya gnun ka abuse noon compared ngayon na hindi sya umaabot ng 5 oras nakabukas.
can you give me other tips na pwede ko gawin para sarili ko matroubleshoot yung acer ko? wala na rin warranty to kasi nawala ko na receipt nya and tingin ko tapos na warranty. san ko sya dadalin? villman or acer na mismo sa megamall? skeptical ako dalin sya sa acer kasi baka simple lang yung sira (kasi nga na on ko pa sya ulit although chamba lang rin siguro) pero baka sabihin nila malala and masobra yung singil saken.
though, isip ko mas maganda sana kung ako lang mag ayos muna. money is really an issue ngayon. my parents recently separated so... mejo hirap sa money and student pa lang ako.
kung may spare time kayo sir patext naman ako sa number na to 09279839286. pahelp lang ako mag troubleshoot and tips kung saan sya best na dalin. thanks in advance and wait ko po if ever mag text kayo. thanks ulit and God bless!
and pag pinaayos ko nga pala di kaya mawala files ko? andito kasi thesis ko at aral projects na sayang naman kung uumpisahan ko ulit. haayyy... nanghihinayang tlga ako.... mga 7pm sya nag breakdown at 3am na pinipilit ko pa rin ayusin...
ps. pasensha na kung mahaba. thanks for reading!
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update:
inopen ko ulit yung acer ko and umabot sa login screen ng vista tpos nag auto restart na
after nun mejo weird yung pinapakita sa startup
diba dapat nakikita AMD Atlhon 64 x2 5000+ 2.6GHz? at first nakita ko pa na gnyan pero after ko
ctrl alt del nawala na.
ang nakalagay dun sa line na yun:
CPU0, 667MHz, 1867923MB --
basta parang gnyan hindi ko nakikita yung model ni CPU
after ko push yung off kasi hindi na nagloload from boot screen bumalik yung bleep sounds at wala na ulit ako makita...
so 90% CPU problem na ba to? :'(
kung yes, dadalin ko na ba sa acer? as in no choice na mafix ko to ng sarili?
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Usually the beeping sound and bluescreen is a memory problem either not properly place, incompatibility or its just wearing down. I had the same problem before w/ my memory so if you have a spare one or could borrow one you could try that.
As for you CPU it usually shutdowns if it can no longer handle the temperature. try checking if there's thermal paste/grease on your cpu's heat plate and check if the paste/grease is evenly spread out and check if the cpu fan is running and lastly try booting w/o the side panel just to factor out the temperature.
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yup chineck ko rin yung procie and tingin ko ok pa naman yung thermal paste
minsan as in wala ako makita pag on ko mag bleep lang yung screen ko wala
black lang napupunta sa power savings mode
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hi since ram yung problem ko, iuupgrade ko na yung ram ko and procie siguro.
compatible ba yung 800mhz ram sa mobo? or maski 800 sya maforce underclock to 667?
di ko kasi alam kung ano model/maker ng mobo.
and kung compatible po ba yung athlon 2 procies?
im thinking adding up a 3+ ghz na dual core pero ayoko madagdagan yung wattage.
alam ko mas efficient yung mga athlon 2's kasi 45nm sila.
ayun thanks.
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hangang 8400GS lang.
Sa C2D na nagla-laro ang mga anak ko, Asus na ang MoBo huling sinira ay HDD, nag crash. :P
Ganyan yata talaga :'(
binutas ko na ung itaas ng casing ko at so far ok na ang temperature... nagamit ko ung natutunan ko sa unibersidad hehehe
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hi since ram yung problem ko, iuupgrade ko na yung ram ko and procie siguro.
compatible ba yung 800mhz ram sa mobo? or maski 800 sya maforce underclock to 667?
di ko kasi alam kung ano model/maker ng mobo.
and kung compatible po ba yung athlon 2 procies?
im thinking adding up a 3+ ghz na dual core pero ayoko madagdagan yung wattage.
alam ko mas efficient yung mga athlon 2's kasi 45nm sila.
ayun thanks.
pards kailangan mo malaman yung model/manufacturer ng mobo bago ka mag upgrade
try mo to para malaman mo kung ano mobo mo
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/236/1
at eto
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/34
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awesome.. thanks!
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I just want to share to those having problems with their on board LAN (Overheats, thus lost Internet/Network connection) that the best solution to our X3200 is initially to incorporate a usb wireless N dongle from CDR-King which only sells for Php580....now if you don't have any wireless router, the next best thing is to buy the USB LAN again being sold by CDR-KIng for only Php280. It really works and transmits fast downloads.
(http://www.cdrking.com/images/products/USB%20Devices/tm102900.gif) (http://www.cdrking.com/images/products/Network%20Devices/lp869700.gif)
BTW...when installing the drivers, turn off your UAC, it's at teh control panel, and since it's a VISTA OS, just place UAC on the search box, and once it appears uncheck the UAC box...otherwise,teh drivers will be ignored.
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to sir alfie and other acer users, heads up news lang
sorry misinform ko na P50 yung diagnose. actually:
diagnose: P450.00
labor: P800.00
yan.. so lumaki yung mata ko nung narinig ko yung labor cost. ok lang sana pay ko yung 450 pero di na ko makakauwi pag binayad ko yung 800. anyway yun lang. mukha naman concerned sila kasi insist nila yung receipt ko and warranty. chineck rin naman kahit papano and sabi nung isang technician nung explain ko yung issues ko (which is BSOD's). 99% RAM and/or Hard Disk yung problem.
so tingin ko pag diagnose nila meron sila susundin na routine check up to ensure all functions should function correctly. - yun nga lang yung labor, pero understandable kasi lahat naman siguro ng tools na kelangan nasa kanila na tlga.
AND....
yung mobo tips nga pala, still unsure ako kasi blank yung nakalagay na dapat manufacturer. nakalagay lang tlga mcp78 yung mobo naten. walang maker. so siguro acer yung maker (duh).
ask lang if meron sanyo acer x3200 na ram is @800mhz? naghahanap ako kasi ng 667 (cheaper and para sure na din) kaso parang rare na sila ngayon. on stock is yung 800mhz tlga.
ayun lang sorry ulit sa wrong info. cheers.
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I just want to share to those having problems with their on board LAN (Overheats, thus lost Internet/Network connection) that the best solution to our X3200 is initially to incorporate a usb wireless N dongle from CDR-King which only sells for Php580....now if you don't have any wireless router, the next best thing is to buy the USB LAN again being sold by CDR-KIng for only Php280. It really works and transmits fast downloads.
(http://www.cdrking.com/images/products/USB%20Devices/tm102900.gif) (http://www.cdrking.com/images/products/Network%20Devices/lp869700.gif)
BTW...when installing the drivers, turn off your UAC, it's at teh control panel, and since it's a VISTA OS, just place UAC on the search box, and once it appears uncheck the UAC box...otherwise,teh drivers will be ignored.
Wow, nice info sir.
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to sir alfie and other acer users, heads up news lang
sorry misinform ko na P50 yung diagnose. actually:
diagnose: P450.00
labor: P800.00
yan.. so lumaki yung mata ko nung narinig ko yung labor cost. ok lang sana pay ko yung 450 pero di na ko makakauwi pag binayad ko yung 800. anyway yun lang. mukha naman concerned sila kasi insist nila yung receipt ko and warranty. chineck rin naman kahit papano and sabi nung isang technician nung explain ko yung issues ko (which is BSOD's). 99% RAM and/or Hard Disk yung problem.
so tingin ko pag diagnose nila meron sila susundin na routine check up to ensure all functions should function correctly. - yun nga lang yung labor, pero understandable kasi lahat naman siguro ng tools na kelangan nasa kanila na tlga.
AND....
yung mobo tips nga pala, still unsure ako kasi blank yung nakalagay na dapat manufacturer. nakalagay lang tlga mcp78 yung mobo naten. walang maker. so siguro acer yung maker (duh).
ask lang if meron sanyo acer x3200 na ram is @800mhz? naghahanap ako kasi ng 667 (cheaper and para sure na din) kaso parang rare na sila ngayon. on stock is yung 800mhz tlga.
ayun lang sorry ulit sa wrong info. cheers.
Sir parang ang mahal nman yta na diagnose at repair nyan... sa acer service center wlang byad. babayaran mo lng ung papalitan nila
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Hey guys, just curious to know if anyone has tested the zotac or Galaxy 9600gt (low profile) with the x3200?
The galaxy 9600gt LP looks slightly longer then the zotac at 20cm, so I was wondering if anyone managed to fit it?
Also, is there an option of upgrading the power supply?
Thanks
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I have upgraded my X3200 to Win 7.
I first installed a genuine OEM Win 7 32bit from local Microsoft office (for attending their corporate event recently) and later when I got the genuine install media for Win 7 64bit, I tried this as well. Both times fresh installs on a 1.5TB Seagate SATA HD.
After 24 hours of running on 64bit, I decided to revert back to 32bit version of Win 7. This was prompted by some hanging problems which I suspect is related to 64bit drivers that may not be fully compatible with Win 7 64bit on X3200.
By the way, I am running the X3200 with an upgraded AMD Phenom X4 quad core (@ 2ghz). So far it's been running well on 32bit Win 7 and may just decide to keep this version for now.
I also took out the 8400gs card since it was just generating heat inside the enclosure without much benefit to the set-up itself and causing the CPU fans to run overdrive most of the time before.
I replaced it with a 2x ESATA controller card but had to rigged the metal guide to allow it to become a low profile card.
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Im running X3200 on Windows 7 64bit with no problems what so ever.
I have a AMD Phenom x3 triple core
4MB ram
1TB HDD
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Im running X3200 on Windows 7 64bit with no problems what so ever.
I have a AMD Phenom x3 triple core
4MB ram
1TB HDD
what drivers did you use for the "co-processor"?
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Im running X3200 on Windows 7 64bit with no problems what so ever.
I have a AMD Phenom x3 triple core
4MB ram
1TB HDD
what exactly the model of phenom x3?
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8550 triple Core 2.20GHz
The drivers that came with the Operating System. I then updated the chipset drivers via Acers website.
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Has anyone upgraded their Graphics card for the X3200, if so, which one did you get. Cheers
im looking at a 9500GT LP as I think the 9600GT will be far too powerfull
Also, has anyone upgraded their case? Again if so, what case did you use and whats the size of the motherboard thats in the X3200, ie ATA midi, micro etc..
Cheers.
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Has anyone upgraded their Graphics card for the X3200, if so, which one did you get. Cheers
im looking at a 9500GT LP as I think the 9600GT will be far too powerfull
Also, has anyone upgraded their case? Again if so, what case did you use and whats the size of the motherboard thats in the X3200, ie ATA midi, micro etc..
Cheers.
Inupgrade ko ung grphic card ko into Geforce G100. Di kya ng PSU ung 9500GT tsong. nakita ko lang na ibang option eh 8400GS or Geforce G210
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Just so peeps know.
I have installed the XFX geforce 9500gt 1gb low profile.
Works fine, decent fps on CounterStrike Source. Ran the benchmark and got 230fps all on low settings.
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skin
anong psu ng x3200 mo? 220w po ba? di naman po namamatay matay yung pc? kamusta din po yung temps ng videocard
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Hindi power hungry ang 9500, iyun' 9600GT at 9600GTS ang na-nga-nga ilangan nang sariling power supply...pero OK iyan, gamit ko iyan sa isang PC nang anak ko, may sariling HDMI at pang digital audio para may audio out ang HDMI.
BTW...saan mo nabili ito' ?...online ba at mag-kano?
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@alfie, kamusta performance ng 9500GT mo? kayang kaya ba ang mga FPS at 720?
nag hahanap ako ng 512mb DDR3 version, puro DDR2 ang nakikita ko
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Hiya Dowals- Ok lang siya, mura kaysa sa 9600GT namim, tapos may HDMI, at kayang kaya ang mga Call Of Duty Series, ka-ka-install ko plang ang COD-Modern Warfare 2 kasing kinis din ang graphics tulad sa 9600 na power hungry.....ukol naman sa movies hinid ko alam kung mayroon ako niyan 720FPS, at di ko na sinubukan iyan...pang games lang nang mag anak ko ito' eh'.....at kahit siguro makaya....dahil naka C2D ang procesor, hindi siguro dahil sa Video Card...at naka CoreAVC na ako sa lahat nang PC sa bahay eh'.
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wow hindi ba ang min req ng 9500GT eh 350W? 220W lng ung X3200 di ba masama un mga sir?
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Talaga? 350watts minimun...eh' sorry di' alam iyun....kasi sa ibang PC nakalagay ito' sa C2D na naka HEC 550watts, hindi naman na=nga-nag ilangan nang seprate power supply, kaya ang tinging ko ay entry level pa-rin at saka sa presyo niya pang entry level talaga.
Sa Acer ko kasi...iyun' 8400gs pa rin ang naka lagay eh....siguro kung tuloy tuloy na laro magi-ging masama....pero kung movies lang dahil sa processor ang ka-ilangan wala sigurong masama.
Siguro kai-langan si sKin ang sumagot kasi may naka install na sa kanya. Ingitt nga ako eh' parang gusto ko rin mag up grade, kasi iyun' huling update driver nang Acer ko ay para sa 9000 series na video card...di' ko lang alam kung 9400 o' hanganng 9500...gumana rin sa 8400 ko, kaya lang binalik ko sa 8400 driver...mahirap na eh'. ;) :D
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hehehe parehas tayu Alfie nainggit din ako sa 9500GT ni sKIN... Kaso parang natatakot nga ako na maglagay ng 9500GT... di nga rin tau sure kng tama ung rating ng PSU ng X3200
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thanks alfie :)
which is better 9500GT 256mb DDR3 or 9500GT 512mb DDR2?
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Ka Alfie, oks ba na card replacement sa 8400gs 'to?
if ok, san nabibili and how much kaya?
salamat! :)
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which is better 9500GT 256mb DDR3 or 9500GT 512mb DDR2?
Yung mas mura. Sa benchmark lang magkakatalo by a few points which you will never feel in real life applications especially gaming.
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the 512mb DDR2 is cheaper in my suking tindahan
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Sorry guys, you gonna have to speak English as I'm from the UK.
The only thing I had to do with the 9500GT XFX is remove the bracket as it doesn't come with Low Profile Bracket, but can easily be obtained from Ebay or components stores. But works fine. It does say minimum requirements for PSU is 350 Watt, but seems to work fine.
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OH... sorry Skin, we thought from also from the Philippines, and yes, we've been contemplating in upgrading our 8400gs with either the 9400 or 9500 for that matter which ever is available.
However...sadly, we don't get any low profile video cards and only the 8400gs made it's way in these islands.
Anyway...good for you...the bracket (low profile) is available here in the Philippines, the problem is the video-card, the way we see it, is that the stores here only sells the fast moving items ,and not the newer less sell-able ones.
I guess, from what I've gathered is that as long as you don't use your X3200 on FPS(1st Person Shooter) games, the power supply won't matter much....now for HTPC....from my experience, it's still the processor and the incorporated codecs (CoreAVC) and your video card won't exhaust itself even with a 220watts rated PSU on the X3200(well except if they've upgraded your PSU in the UK with a 350watts or even a micro system based PSU with a 500watts rating)
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Ka Alfie, oks ba na card replacement sa 8400gs 'to?
if ok, san nabibili and how much kaya?
salamat! :)
sKin already answered, he's from the UK, so if you want to you'll have to order it online.....it's still an entry level videocard, so the PSU won't matter, however, you should stick to movies and shy away from FPS RAM hungry games. ;) ;D
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Ran the benchmark and got 230fps all on low settings.
Same results with the 8400GS while my son's playing Call Of Duty World At War and Modern Warfare 2, however, it hangs on local LAN play(networked settings in the house with only 3 Desktop PCs, but I think the culprit is the Vista OS that came with the X3200(did not change it since it's factory installed), yours might be better with Windows 7, since those Desktops with XP based OS works fine)
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is this no good?
9400
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B001MW614O/ref=ord_cart_shr?_encoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance
9500
http://www.amazon.com/XFX-PV-T95G-ZAFG-9500GT-550M-Express/dp/B001GIAWAS/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1259329307&sr=1-4
http://www.amazon.com/Sparkle-SP95GT1024D2LHP-GeForce-HDTV-Out-Graphics/dp/B002B7JFYC/ref=sr_1_22?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1259329307&sr=1-22
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Skin san mo nakuha 9500gt mo at anong brand? how much din?
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Just so peeps know.
I have installed the XFX geforce 9500gt 1gb low profile.
Works fine, decent fps on CounterStrike Source. Ran the benchmark and got 230fps all on low settings.
does this generate considerable add-on heat?
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Because the way the motherboard is sat ( upside down), the top of the case sits flush against the card ( I think there is like a 2mm gap), I take the top off so there is constant cool air on the card whilst gaming.
The card doesn't require any extra power, like previous cards I have had before where it needed a 4 pin molex power supply to it. Well the 9500gt doesn't.
I have ran alsorts of games on this. For example, CounterStrike Source, Flatout 3 altimate carnage and America's Army 3, All with no problems yet.
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is this no good?
ASUS EN9400GT/DI/1GD2(LP) GeForce 9400 GT 1 GB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21vJ-8qewnL._SL500_AA160_.jpg)
Jack Ryan-From my readings our Acer can only best fitted by the 9400. Once it was available at TipidPC, but was selling for more than 5K...so I balked out....it seems this price is OK, which will translate to 3.5K right?....BTW....the last video card update for the X3200 was for the 9400.
XFX PV-T95G-ZAFG GF 9500GT 550M 1GB DDR2 TV DVI PCI Express Card
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21b5QKoqNFL._SL500_AA200_.jpg)
This is probably sKin's video card,and now I can imagine why he needs to take the case cover off :-X
Sparkle SP95GT1024D2LHP GeForce 9500 GT 1024MB DDR2 PCI Low Profile 128-bit CRT HDTV-Out DVI Graphics Card
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41tQ0Q7l%2BmL._SL500_AA280_.jpg)
My son's 9600GTS brand is Sparkle,and from my experience is sturdier than Inno3D, but is not considered better than the Palit brand by most sellers at TipidPC....I think it's long, I don't know if this will really fit, the ad says this "7.7 x 5.1 x 1.7 inches"....but it's probably the box for shipping...he-he ;) ;D ;D
As what I've posted before, from what I've learned now, the X3200 was built to be as X3200 with very minimal improvements or modifications to be made...enjoy it as it is, however, if you really feel that it's inadequate for you, the best thing really is to build another gaming PC, which nowadays even with a much higher video card will only cost the same amount as our X3200...or less if you buy the 9500 (regular board)
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Thanks Ka Alfie! :)
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Yeah, thats my card :D
You are very right Alfie about modifications, but unfotunately, this was the only computer offered to me from a scheme here in the UK, so I had to take it.
Im really happy with it tho, the who computer now does what I want from it and runs like a dream. If I do upgrade anything, it will be the case next.
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Anyone know why I can't get the Hybrid SLI to work. It shows up in bios, but its greyed out with a [X] next to it.
My card does support SLI too.
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Well it just means the chips of the 9500 is not for Hybrid SLI, being able to utilize/support SLI,does not man it's compatible with Hybrid LI, HYbrid SLI is MoBo dependent. Having SLI only means you can utilize 2 SLI capable cards and increase your video processing power.
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Soooo what card does support this then?
In the 9000 series I mean
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I think since our MoBo is for AMD...it's only the 8000 series,and from what I've read, the 9000 series also supports Hybrid SLI but only for the Intel chipsets. :P
I got this from wikipedia:
On desktop systems, the motherboard chipsets nForce 720a, 730a, 750a SLI and 780a SLI and the motherboard GPUs GeForce 8100, 8200, 8300 and 9300 support Hybrid SLI (GeForce Boost and HybridPower). The GPUs GeForce 8400 GS and 8500 GT support GeForce Boost, the GPUs 9800 GT, 9800 GTX, 9800 GTX+ 9800 GX2, GTX 260 and GTX 280 support HybridPower.
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The 9400 low profile video card is now available in Gilmore and possibly at most PC Shops in Metro Manila.
I was shown one at the Gaisano shop in Gilmore, it's the 512mb variant Inno3D (backed out, I prefer the Palit) brand and selling for 1.8K.
They told me that the 1 gig variant goes for 2.1K.
For info to X3200 owners/users looking for a low profile video card upgrade.
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The 9400 low profile video card is now available in Gilmore and possibly at most PC Shops in Metro Manila.
I was shown one at the Gaisano shop in Gilmore, it's the 512mb variant Inno3D (backed out, I prefer the Palit) brand and selling for 1.8K.
They told me that the 1 gig variant goes for 2.1K.
For info to X3200 owners/users looking for a low profile video card upgrade.
You might want to try other shops in Gilmore. The one next door to Gaisano (Foxcom) generally has lower prices and a fresher inventory.
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The 9400 low profile video card is now available in Gilmore and possibly at most PC Shops in Metro Manila.
I was shown one at the Gaisano shop in Gilmore, it's the 512mb variant Inno3D (backed out, I prefer the Palit) brand and selling for 1.8K.
They told me that the 1 gig variant goes for 2.1K.
For info to X3200 owners/users looking for a low profile video card upgrade.
bro alfie, would you have a particular reason why you prefer the Palit over the Inno3D ?
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I've got 2 Inno3D Video Cards that crashed, culprit was the cooling fan that got stuck....if you'll notice, the Palit Video Card fans seems sturdier than that of the Inno3D.....anyway once you see it, you'll know what I mean. ;)
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I agree with Sir Alfie. Mas maganda ang palit compared to inno 3d.
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The 9400 low profile video card is now available in Gilmore and possibly at most PC Shops in Metro Manila.
I was shown one at the Gaisano shop in Gilmore, it's the 512mb variant Inno3D (backed out, I prefer the Palit) brand and selling for 1.8K.
They told me that the 1 gig variant goes for 2.1K.
For info to X3200 owners/users looking for a low profile video card upgrade.
Sir Alfie yung card ko eh G100
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_g_100_us.html
tingin mo mgkakaron ba ng noticeable na pagbabago sa performance ng X3200 ko pag inupgrade ko xa sa 9400GT?
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Both are manufactured under the GE Force family; The 9400 was manufactured and distributed last August 2008, whereas the G100 last March 2009.....now both are basics for their respective series, the 9400 for the 9000 and the G100 for the 100 series, now if you'll look at their comparison table( it's in wiki), you''ll notice that everything is almost at par, except for the GFLOPs (MADD/MUL) which is the measure of computing performance and that the 9400(67) is double that of the G100 (33), thus indicating better "points operation per second", so in theory, yes...it will, but in practice. ::)
Always remember, you're using the Vista as your OS, and the G100 was conceived for the Vista OS, and thus , even if you'll change your Video card, there is a chance (and that also depends on what games you'll install), you might not perceived the so called Floating points operation per second.
....BTW, the 8400 only has a 22 GFLOPS, so in theory again if you have the 8400 installed it's logical to see improvement with the 9400, however, the reports coming in from the ones who tried the 9400 still felt negligible change coming in from the 8400, my theory is that the 22GFLOPS is rated for the 250mbs variant and the 8400 62GFLP rating possibly for the 512 variant.
so as the American saying goes..."if it's working, don't change" ;)
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wow thanks for checking on it
Di ko na to papalitan since nkakalaro nman ako ng resident evil 5 tsaka NBA2K10 hindi nga lng todo
wala na kong upgrade na gagawin sa X3200 ko. Baka bumuo nlang ako ng gaming PC next year hehe
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Last December, my CPU fan conked out on me.
The X3200 runs 7x24 and have been upgrade to quad-core a couple of months earlier. While I cannot discount totally, if it contributed to the CPU fan failure, I was disappointed to find out that the CPU fan will give up that easily and smelled like burnt plastic. Good thing the PC automatically protected itself and did a shutdown by its own.
Anyways, managed to find a replacement fan of similar make but higher amperage. So far so good. Keeping my fingers crossed. ;)
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Nice to know bro. Where did you bought the replacement fan? and how much? What CPU did you upgrade to?
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AMD Phenom X4 64
9350e
2.0 Ghz True Quad-Core Design
4.0 MB Total L2+L3 Cache
Energy Efficient 65w
I posted way back in April 2009... :)
The fan I got from the SOS / surplus shops...
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pede ba kabitan ng AMD 620 quadcore yung board natin?
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Not sure... so far I can attest to be quite a contented user of the quad-core using this particular model:
AMD Phenom X4 64
9350e
2.0 Ghz True Quad-Core Design
4.0 MB Total L2+L3 Cache
Energy Efficient 65w
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Mga sir tingin niyo what's better Geforce G210 or 9400GT?
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mas maganda yung geforce 9400gt pero di siya magkakasiya sa x3200 kaya mag g210 ka nalang tas try mo overclocker kahit onti para parehas na sila performance.
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malaki ba difference? alam ko meron mga available na LP 9400GT
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malabo mag kasya LP 9400gt kasi mga 128bit cards usually mahaba eh madalas 64bit maiksi kaya mag g210 ka nalang
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what's the maximum system memory that can be configured into this PC?
I saw these links and claims, our units can go up to 8gb? Is this correct?
http://www.memorystock.com/memory/AcerAspireX3200ED5600A.html
http://www.memoryupgrade.pro/acer-memory-aspire-aspire-x3200.html
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From what I was told before, it was OS Dependent, if you're using Vista 64bit, recommendation is 4Gig, however, your link says it can use up to 8 Gig.(is there a 4Gig RAM available here ? )
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From what I was told before, it was OS Dependent, if you're using Vista 64bit, recommendation is 4Gig, however, your link says it can use up to 8 Gig.(is there a 4Gig RAM available here ? )
same question I have in mind... since I am running windows 7 32-bit ultimate edition, I wonder if it's worth it to get the 4gb memory chips for this...
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same question I have in mind... since I am running windows 7 32-bit ultimate edition, I wonder if it's worth it to get the 4gb memory chips for this...
OT: is your KMP (+ CoreAVC) working ok with your win7 32bit?
I'm not using the x3200, but my amd based setup is having issues with playback, used to work perfectly with win xp
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Finally, I already have 9500GT running on my X3200....
I can now Play NFS Shift... woohooo :o
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jeje_miah- where did you get your unit? is it palit or Inno3D? I'm planning on getting one myself, and since it's 9500 does the Hybrid SLI still work?....from what I have read, the HYbrid SLI is only till 9400, however, the 9500 also has the HDMI out.
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OT: is your KMP (+ CoreAVC) working ok with your win7 32bit?
I'm not using the x3200, but my amd based setup is having issues with playback, used to work perfectly with win xp
i am not running that... best if you direct this question to Alfie.
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Sorry, but I have mainatained the original VISTA Os...he's asking about W7
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Sorry, but I have mainatained the original VISTA Os...he's asking about W7
My bad... Clondalkin might be able to help his query instead.
Alfie, I also got a Inno3D GEForce 9500 with 1024mb from amazon.com. But have not had the chance to install it yet...
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jeje_miah- where did you get your unit? is it palit or Inno3D? I'm planning on getting one myself, and since it's 9500 does the Hybrid SLI still work?....from what I have read, the HYbrid SLI is only till 9400, however, the 9500 also has the HDMI out.
I got it at Gilmore, PC Quarters, they're the only one that has ECS Elitegroup brand, other sells Inno3d that looks crappy. Price is Php2,700 though... It doesnt have Hybrid SLI but I don't think I'll need it... Yes it does have HDMI out...
Here is how it looks like:
http://www.ecsusa.com/ECSWebSite/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?CategoryID=5&TypeID=34&DetailID=1055&DetailName=Feature&MenuID=1&LanID=9
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nga pala sir Alfie question...
Pwede ba ko mag add ng isa pang RAM na 1gb lang... yung isang stick ko kasi eh 2gb... eh di ba hindi rin nman madedetect ung 1gb pag bumili ko ng isa pang stick na 2gb?
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Yes, that's what they did to my X3200, however,it's cheaper and more practical to add a 2G( I learned later) since I did it with another desktop,and it's a lot faster than the one with only 3G of RAM.
BTW, if you shift to Vista Premuin, your 4 Gig will be detected. ;) ;D
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OT: is your KMP (+ CoreAVC) working ok with your win7 32bit?
I'm not using the x3200, but my amd based setup is having issues with playback, used to work perfectly with win xp
Switched to kmp + ffdshow, stuttering solved
will test with the older version, CoreAVC 2.0 seems to be unstable with win7
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Yes, that's what they did to my X3200, however,it's cheaper and more practical to add a 2G( I learned later) since I did it with another desktop,and it's a lot faster than the one with only 3G of RAM.
BTW, if you shift to Vista Premuin, your 4 Gig will be detected. ;) ;D
Nice info... Thanks sir Alfie
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plan on upgrading to 9500gt pero inaalala ko wala syang kasamang lp bracket. may nabibilihan ba nun na separate? upgraded yung psu ko to 250w so kung okay kay jeje sana ok rin saken. btw, jeje your using the stock psu ryt?
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Hi Carlhenry....update us on what happened to your X3200 ???
What was the problem before, and it seems to be working well again.
BTW...the Inno3D 9400 has a LP bracket....but It's Inno3D. :-\
also you can use your old 8400gs LP bracket. ;) ;D
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ayy yup yup alfie sensya na. nag format kasi ako nung nasira etong trusty x3200 kaya yun fresh install lahat and wala na sa bookmarks ko etong pinoydvd.
recap ko lang yung sira nya dati is bsod & autorestart
nag 2 isip ako nung mejo malaki gagastusin ko kasi P800 yung checkup/diagnose nila sa acer kaya inuwi ko muna. sabi rin saken dun sa acer nung sinabi ko yung problem, 99% ram yung culprit. buti naalala ko may 512mb ram ate ko. magkaiba kasi kami ng bahay kaya hindi ko natest agad. so test ko on ko magdamag and overnight to make sure hindi sya mag bsod and autorestart. and yahoo hindi na nga nag bsod and restart kaya ram na tlga yung sira. apacer yung ram na nakabit saken dati kaya hanggat maari avoid nyo yung brand na yun.
bought 3gigs of ram para maupgrade na rin (dati 2gb).. kaso apacer lang rin yung available kaya yun pa rin binili ko (kulit noh?). suggest ko kingston value ram. may pc ako ancient na kingston ram nun at 10years running pa rin alang hitch.
oh, now running windows 7 na pala.
about dun sa LP bracket wala na ko nun kasi binenta ko na sa pamangkin ko yung 8400 ko kasi wala naman ako nakitang difference sa performance kaya yun.. balak ko mag upgrade ulit ng higher version (gsto ko kasi maglaro ng CoD: MW ng may konting eye candy or at least higher res sa 640x480).
ps.
btw, help nga ulit pala. kasi yung ram na nabili ko yung mga bago yung maninipis at payat kaya nakabit ko ng walang problem. yung 2nd slot kasi pag full height yung ram hindi kasya kelangan mo pa alisin yung dvd drive pati ata HD. yung sa mga naka disassemble na ng acer nila tips naman kung pano alisin yung dvd drive? hinahanap ko yung mga screw inalis ko na lahat ng nakita ko pero ayaw mag budge. plan ko rin kasi upgrade hard disk ko at ayaw ko naman magbayad ng P300 para magkabit (yun yung singil sa service center).
gusto ko malaman pano alisin etong dvd.
ram ko ngayon:
(http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/images/products/kingston_ddr2_dimm_low_profile.jpg)
ram na hindi mo makakabit sa 2nd slot unless alisin mo dvd and hd:
(http://www.onlineitworld.com/mbc/prod_img/136image1.jpg)
onga pala, special thanks kay alfie nung namomroblema ako. thank you!
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carlhenry,
madali lang iyan'....ka-kapain mo lang(pag bukas mo ang tanda ko screwless siya, naka clamp lang)
...taga saan ka ba??
Sa QC ako, sa akin Libre....gawin ko para sa iyo' ( iyan ang una kong ginawa noon na-iuwi ko ang X3200 ko, kasi pinalitan ko kaagad nang 500G HD).....may trabaho ako sa Saturday, sa New Manila, kung gusto mo i-pm mo sa akin, at bibigay ko sa iyo ang address ko, usually magaan ako sa mga lunch time... tapos dahlin mo, mga 15 mins na trabaho lang iyan' ;) ;D
OO' nga pala si Kiko(Francis) ay may mga mid at high end na RAM (at murang mura, daig pa ang PCX at PC Hub) try mo siyang i-contact, eto' ang cell # niya 9228233996. ;)
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Sir Alfie tanong lang. Medyo nalito lang ako sa nabasa ko. Pede po ba i-upgrade yung Vista OS(x3200) natin ng windows 7? As in no problems encountered?
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Sa tinging ko....Clean (Reformat and Install) Install ang ginawa nang dalawang nag-upgrade; Pakitanong na lang si si JackRyan at si Carlhenry. ;) ;D
Kung sa akin....happy pa rin ako sa Vista Basic ko, dahil HTPC lang naman ang ginagamit ko rito, tapos alam ko na rin i-bypass ang anti-piracy niya kung mag-i-install ako nang Quiapo acquired PC Games. ;) ;D...ehem...tama na, baka ma censor ako. ;D
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plan on upgrading to 9500gt pero inaalala ko wala syang kasamang lp bracket. may nabibilihan ba nun na separate? upgraded yung psu ko to 250w so kung okay kay jeje sana ok rin saken. btw, jeje your using the stock psu ryt?
Yup stock yung psu ko... nung una rin ung wattage ang inaalala ko kya iniisip ko pa mag-underclock nun... pero ayun tumakbo naman xa ng maayos nalalaro ko na ung 2k10 tsaka ung shift ng maayos... san mu nakuha yung psu mo? yung nabili ko nga pala na 9500GT may LP bracket na...
nka win7 na din nga pala ko dun sa nagtatanong ng problema, sa ngaun ang problema ko lang eh hindi compatible sa win7 yung DAEMON tool...
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carlhenry,
madali lang iyan'....ka-kapain mo lang(pag bukas mo ang tanda ko screwless siya, naka clamp lang)
...taga saan ka ba??
Sa QC ako, sa akin Libre....gawin ko para sa iyo' ( iyan ang una kong ginawa noon na-iuwi ko ang X3200 ko, kasi pinalitan ko kaagad nang 500G HD).....may trabaho ako sa Saturday, sa New Manila, kung gusto mo i-pm mo sa akin, at bibigay ko sa iyo ang address ko, usually magaan ako sa mga lunch time... tapos dahlin mo, mga 15 mins na trabaho lang iyan' ;) ;D
OO' nga pala si Kiko(Francis) ay may mga mid at high end na RAM (at murang mura, daig pa ang PCX at PC Hub) try mo siyang i-contact, eto' ang cell # niya 9228233996. ;)
wow mukhang ayus toh ah may contact hehehe... plano ko kasi bumili nga isa pang kingston 2gb pc800 CL6... nasa magkanu kya ung ganito? ::)
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naku maraming maraming salamat alfie! sige kung nakabili ako ng bagong hdd text agad kita.
jeje_miah sige settle na lang ako sa 9500gt. halos kapresyo lang kasi sya ng ati 4350 eh sobrang bagal nun.
nga pala alfie, ginagamit mo pa ba yung lp bracket ng 8400 mo?
kung sakali makabili ako xfx 9500gt baka pwede bilin ko lp bracket? hehe kung sakali lang naman.
yung xfx 9500gt tinignan ko sa site yung package walang LP bracket na kasama.
windows 7 walang problema sa installation (basta make sure legit yan). basta clean install. no problems as in sobra stable. windows 7 32-bit gamit ko ngayon.
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t20/carlonfire/screenshot.jpg)
pahabol lang ulit:
jeje_miah meron kang map ng pc quarters? papasyal siguro ako dun next week. sure ka may LP bracket? kasi 2 klase yung LP bracket, yung isa meron hdmi ata tpos yung isa yung sobrang liit yung kasya tlga sa x3200. as in kasha sa x3200 ng naka close yung side panel? thanks.
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carlhenry,
Gamit ko parin ang 8400gs ko......kung bibili ka nang HDD, hangang 500G lang...iyun' payat na, kasi iyun' luma at ang 1TB masama ang report, marami nang nag crash, hindi magkasundo ang speed daw.
tungkol naman sa braacket, pag naging low profile, talagang mawawala ang DVI, ang support niya ay HDMI at VGA lang.
Oh sige tawag ka na lang pag gusto mo nang kalikutin iyan' 3200 mo. ;) ;D
Alfie
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wla kong map nun eh basta dun xa sa gilmore sa 2nd flr computer grphics bldg yata yun.
yung LP bracket nia sukat na sukat talaga sa x3200.
wow asteeg un xfx ha kaso wala sa budget ko yun ;D
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paano magkabit ng low profile bracket? kasi balak ko bumili inno3d g210 ddr3 eh.
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madali lang, pag nakita mo, alam mo na kung paano....palitan lang, tapos salpak, Iyun' screw ibabalik mo lang.
Kung gusto mo, ipa palit mo na sa shop na binilan mo, gustong gusto nilang mag serbis...he-he. ;) ;D
(Kung dala mo nga ang PC mo, sila na ang mag-ka-kabit eh' masarap lang na ikaw mismo ang ma-tuto) ;)
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saan pwede bumili low profile bracket lahat ng tinanong ko wala daw sila. pumunta din ako sa pc quarters yung maliit na store sa may 2nd floor malapit sa pc express wala daw.
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tumawag ako sa pc quarters meron daw P80 sorry
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meron pala sa pc quarters greenhills pero sa gilmore wala. P80.00 lang
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di ko mabukas yung acer x3200 ko tinanggal ko na yung 2 screws pero parang may dalawa na di ko matanggal. paano yun kalasin?
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Dapat ang harap muna ang i-kalas...ka-kapain mo iyun' clip tab sa ilalim nang faceplate. Unti-unti-in mo lang at plastic iyun', baka ma-pungal ang clip tab....pag na release na ang harap, mas maliwanag na ang pag-tangal. ;) ;D
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sir Alfie baka pwede ka gumawa ng video sa youtube or pictures. naguguluhan ako sorry. nga pala ok ba kung g210 ddr3 kunin ko videocard? nakabili na kasi ako low profile bracket eh. mas mabilis ba ang geforce 210 kaysa 8400? baka kasi mas mabagal
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Naku....mas matagal pa iyan'... :P
Kung gusto mo, dalhin mo na lang sa akin, ako na nang mag-pa-palit sa iyo tulad nang offer ko kay carlhenry...LIBRE...tuwing sabado kaunti na ang pasyente ko mga bandang 12-2pm, pm lang kayo at ibi-bigay ko ang office address ko. I-schedule na lang natin. ;)
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Mga sir may geforce 300 na coming out this month
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=21369
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nagets ko na paano buksan may sticker lang pala kaya ayaw bumukas. nga pala may belt na malapit sa PCI-E hindi ba ako mamoblema dun? bibili na kasi ako g210 ddr3.
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guys nakainstall na ako ng geforce 210 paano gawin siya yung umaandar? di ko na ininstall yung cd nga pala. pero ininstall siya ng vista. nga pala paano gawin siya yung umaandar di yung onboard? nga pala naka dvi to vga converter yung DVi port ko kapag nagkabit ako. May tunog na nagcoconnect pero walang nagpapakita. paano kaya ilipat na main video card ko ay 210 kasi wala parin nagbago sa Experience Index eh
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punta ka sa bios. icheck mo kng ung hindi na onboard ung primary.
or disable mo ung 8200 sa device sa device manager
reply ka agad kng ano nagyari
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kailangan lang pala ikabit ko yung connector bago pa mag on yung pc sa graphics card. Di ko na dinisable yung onboard. kailangan pa ba disable yun?
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maganda ang performance ng inno3d g210 ddr3 ramdam ang difference sa mga games. sa L4D dating 800x600 na maraming low ngaun 1440x900 lahat high except shader at memory kasi 2gb ram lang ko at no AA
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di nman kailangan idisable pero dinisable ko nga kasi nka 9500gt ako eh wla nman SLI un. . .
anong connector ung kinabit mo?
ano pang games natry mo sa G210 maliban sa L4D?
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emmanuelle post ka naman ng game settings mo. mukhang mas safe yung g210 kesa sa 9500gt in terms sa psu stability. kaw rin jeje_miah para magkaron ako idea kng gano mo napupush yung 9500gt mo para makita ko yung peak usage mo. kung nakatodo ba lahat sayo jeje nag aauto restart ka o di naman? di pa ko nakakapasyal at bili kasi pagod na ko pagtapos ng ojt ko sa market market hehe pero todo laro ako pag weekend.
mga gusto ko malaman settings ng games kung meron kayo (yung pinaka smooth settings nyo):
1.nba 2k10
2. l4d 2
3. devil may cry 4
4. street fighter 4
please use this format - Resolution (e.g. 1024x786), Settings (all high, or high all low shadows, 2xAA mga gnun) - demanding noh? thanks!
ang choices ko sa gpu ngayon:
1. g210 ddr3
2. 9500gt
will lean on g210 kung ok naman yung performance nya to preserve my psu for longevity. takot tlga ako sa 9500gt baka laging max peak ang wattage ng psu ko at maagang bumigay. pero kung malaki lamang sa performance, why not coconut?
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Ung X3200 ko all stock ung setup except Video card: 9500GT tsaka RAM: Kingston 2GB PC-800 CL6
NBA 2K10 lng laro ko ngaun
1600x1000
all high except sa audience nka low kc mejo lag na
di nman xa nag-aauto restart
Galaxy G100 ung card ko dati halos katulad un nung G210, malaki difference nung nag upgrade ako ng 9500GT
carl try mo nlang bilin ung GT220 nkita ko may low profile sa tipidpc mukhang asteeg un hehe
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di ko makita sa tpc yung g220 sinearch ko. jeje palink naman kng pde.
my thoughts:
9400gt = g210
9500gt = g220
baka mag g220 na lang ako kung meron LP at kung nasa 2.5k yung price.
sana malapit lapit sa buendia taft yung store para madali puntahan.
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eto ung link:
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=5263829
3k ung GT220 bro
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naka DVI to vga connector ako. nga pala next time na ako magpost ng ibang games. yung COD WAW 1024x768 no AA taas naka on lahat ng and naka extra ok naman resolution pero ginawa ko nalang normal texture para mas maganda framerate
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masyadong mataas peak wattage ng Gt220 hintayin nalang maglabas ng 30nm na GPU. mas ok pa ang 9500gt. takot kasi ako na masagad PSU. siguro by september meron ng 30nm na GPU sa same performance ng 9500gt with less power.
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jeje_miah
paano uli enable yung onboard kapag na disable na?
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Grabe kayo.... :o :P
I-iwasan ko muna mag-basa nang thread na ito' :-X
.....muntik ko nang tawagan at bilhin iyun' G210 sa TipidPC. :P :'( ;) ;D
Ayoko pang gumastos. ;) ;D
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haha ok naman ang g210 sorry kung nahihikayat ko kayu bumili haha. temps nga pala under load walang aircon nasa 70+ pag idle 50+
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kainggit naman kayo may oras panlaro. hehe konting ojt project at thesis ako pag weekends eh. pag weekdays pag uwi ko sa gabi naman nakokonsensha ako pag bubuksan ko mga laro ko kasi naiisip ko dami gagawin haha. May pa ata ako makakalaro ng at magkakaoras sa ganyan pag wala na ko iniintindi. stress grabe minumulto ako dami project :'(
tuwing nakikita ko rin thread na to upgrade itch gusto ko bilhin yung gt220 ddr3 ;D
na calculate ko nga pala yung gt220 sa psu calc:
athlon x2 5000+ brisbane (65nm)
2 sticks ddr2 ram
1 dvd+rw
regular desktop mobo
1 HDD regular sata
~222w yung power consumption nya @ 95% load, 95% tdp, 35% capacitor aging (1-2years old psu)
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t20/carlonfire/psucalctest.jpg)
safe yung 250w psu ko hihihi...... pero bawal pa laro baka di ako maka graduate :'(
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@emanuelle
sa bios lang or sa device manager
pwede ba SLI sa G210?
@carl
san mo nbili ung 250w mo na psu?
@Alfie
sir bili ka na din bagong card hehehe ;D
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replaced by acer mismo kasi one day isang araw biglang ayaw mag on netong x3200. may warranty pa ko nun mejo matagal na. try nyo ask kung pde kayo pa upgrade baka may 300w sila. pero etong psu ko is 250w na kaya mejo maluwang saken yung gt220.
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nakalimutan mo include yung 56k PCI modem and yung front bay card reader sa calculator
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thanks emanuelle for pointing that out:
tests ulit --
1. 241w with 56k pci modem and front bay card reader.
2. 235w without 56k pci modem, with front bay card reader.
unplug the 56k modem para mas swabe sa psu since di naman ginagamit.
pasok pa rin sa 250w kaya oks lang saken.
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di ata pwede SLI sa g210 eh kahit hybrid SLI wala
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@carl
nagpunta ka pa sa acer service center sa OTIS para palitan PSU?
@emmanuelle
tingin ko oks lng nman kht wla SLI yan G210 may hdmi nman dba?
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sa may megamall acer sa may 5th floor
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yup may HDMI naman.
carlhenry try mo siguro patayin yung onboard tapos tanggalin yung onboard. para pasok talaga sa PSU mo. pero feel ko magiging problema mo lang talaga sa Gt 220 yung temperature.
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ah sa megamall nagrerepair pala sila dun
siguro di naman nia magiging problema temp ng GT220 kasi ok naman temp ng 9500GT ko eh halos parehas lng un
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ano magandang program na parang RealTemp para dito? yung RealTemp kasi di gumaganda dito eh pang Intel lang ata. gusto ko sana CPU and GPU yung kitang Temp
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replaced by acer mismo kasi one day isang araw biglang ayaw mag on netong x3200. may warranty pa ko nun mejo matagal na. try nyo ask kung pde kayo pa upgrade baka may 300w sila. pero etong psu ko is 250w na kaya mejo maluwang saken yung gt220.
How much did you get paid for this and from which Acer store?
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Nvidia System monitor available sa nvidia website
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di maganda yung nvidia system monitor. yung sa real temp nakalagay na yung temps sa tray. di na kailangan i click naka display na yung numbers.
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under warranty yung pinalitan psu ko. wala ako binayaran. sm megamall acer branch
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haha ok naman ang g210 sorry kung nahihikayat ko kayu bumili haha. temps nga pala under load walang aircon nasa 70+ pag idle 50+
bro, out of curiosity, what brand of G210 did you get? yung bang G220 will also fit into our X3200's?
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jackryan
yung g210 ko ay yung inno3d na ddr3. wala kasi nagooffer ng ddr3 yung inno3d lang meron kaya yun na kinuha ko. yung leadtek pati asus na gt220 may low profile. problema lang di kakayanin ng 220w PSU yung gt220 dapat bumili at least ng 350watts na micro PSU and kalasin nalang yung 56k modem since wala na masyado na nag dialup
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@ emmanuelle
anu nga pala naging score mo sa "windows experience index" after mo mag upgrade sa G210?
curious lang hehehe :P ;D
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4.2 na vista index
lang ako screen shot ako pagkauwi.
(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/3944/12488652.jpg) (http://img197.imageshack.us/i/12488652.jpg/)
(http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/7115/37139895.jpg) (http://img682.imageshack.us/i/37139895.jpg/)
eto sabi ng GPU-Z
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yung core clock, memory clock tsaka shader mo ba kapareho ng default sa nvidia website or mas mababa ung config?
core clock
nvidia default 550mhz; mine 550mhz
memory 500mhz; mine 333mhz
shader 1400mhz; mine 1350
ganto din ba sau?
mas mababa kesa sa nkalagay sa nvidia website?
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jeje_miah
bumili ka narin ba ng geforce 210? anong model?
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emmanuelle
ung 9500GT pa rin. napansin ko lng kasi na mababa memory clock nung card ko kaya ko natanong hehe
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guys pwede ba yung am2+ socket sa mobo naten? balak ko sana bumili ng 7750 cpu.
or pwede ba yung athlon x2 5050e am2 cpu? bago lang rin yun 2.6GHz din pero 45w lang yung tdp nya.
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yoh update lang sa thread na deads na hehehe...
now using gt220 and it works awesome! cool na cool yung card walang stutter sa games!
ganda na ng nba 2k10 ko hehehe
all games are played on 1280x720
mid-high mix settings. ganda sobra hehe
kulang na lang low profile bracket kasi walang kasama. san kaya nakakabili nun?
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bro, i got one from a shop in VirraMall...
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yoh update lang sa thread na deads na hehehe...
now using gt220 and it works awesome! cool na cool yung card walang stutter sa games!
ganda na ng nba 2k10 ko hehehe
all games are played on 1280x720
mid-high mix settings. ganda sobra hehe
kulang na lang low profile bracket kasi walang kasama. san kaya nakakabili nun?
what gt220 card brand did you get? I got an ECS one but have not had the time to install yet... para kasing malapad yung GPU fan and heatsink niya...
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guys pwede ba yung am2+ socket sa mobo naten? balak ko sana bumili ng 7750 cpu.
or pwede ba yung athlon x2 5050e am2 cpu? bago lang rin yun 2.6GHz din pero 45w lang yung tdp nya.
how much do they sell the CPU?
anyways, i've upgraded mine to a quad core earlier and so far I am quite satisfied... as long as you get the same wattage specs as your default, then you should be okay...
in your case above, i think the 2.6Ghz is sulit... mine is quad-core 2.0Ghz only...
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Ako naka 8200GS pa rin, pero kahit na ganito, ito pa rin ang best para sa mga Movies, walang stutter, pag di' na -i-play nang Xtreamer/HD Pro at WDTV ko, dito pa rin ang bagsak ko...... ;D
....OO' nga pala, sa mga may stutter ang problema ma-lamang ang Klite ninyo, kailangan lang ang update...hindi kailangan nang upgrade sa hardware.
Nag-stick na ako sa Klite....kasi...inyong' coreavac, kailangan iyun' may crack pa...eh' madalas, ayaw nang antivirus ko.....buti na lang oks na oks ang Klite ;) ;D
Nag HDMI na pala ako....dati rati kasi, ang problema ang audio HDMI ko nawa-wala, ngayon nag palit ako nang 5 to 1 HDMI nang CDR-King...ang galing, pa ti PS3 nang mga anak ko (dati dati 1080i lang sa Olevia 3:1 HDMI) 1080P na, tapos palagi nang may HDMI audio. ;) ;D
Iyun' HDMI switch nang CDR-King cheap na...good quality pa. ;) ;D
(OO' nga pala, kailangan ma-i-check lang ka-agad, iyun isang binili ko, sira ang remote, pero, sa totoo lang, di' kailangan nang remote, dahil may auto play siya at may choice button sa facade) ;)
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what gt220 card brand did you get? I got an ECS one but have not had the time to install yet... para kasing malapad yung GPU fan and heatsink niya...
ECS rin. yup mataas yung fan kaya hindi nacclose yung cpu ko *sigh*
pero ok lang usually naman tinatapatan ko to ng sarili nyang mini electric fan kasi maghapon ko sya nilalaro.
tatakpan ko na lang ng blanket after ko maglaro pag papatayin ko na sya.
btw, san nakakabili ng LP bracket? wala kasing bundle yung ddr3 ecs gt 220. yung ddr2 lang daw.
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sa greenhills meron low profile bracket dun ako bumili. tingnan mo mabuti kasi madalas yung tindera sinasabi wala pero bigla may nakita ako dun sa display.
actually ako may extra pero vga port lang. PC quarters yung pangalan ng store
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For owners with builtin (factory) GPU Nvidia 8200
Has anybody tried setting their resolution to 1920x1080 60hz? mine can only do 1920 x 1080 30hz which is equivalent to 1080i only.
How can I increase the refresh rate to 60hz?
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From what I've experienced, it's not the video card, it's the monitor.
If you connect via DVI or HDMI, the video card will automatically choose the maximum resolution possible for the monitor.
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Thanks! currently it's being paired with a 720p LCD TV. Haven't tried with Full HD TV yet. Still waiting for the C series Samsung to be available.
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guys paconfirm ko lang if pwede 800mhz ddr2 ram sa mobo naten? thanks!
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I've installed a USB 3.0 low profile card on my X3200 and now I can transfer files to external drives much faster! :)
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the 4gb i installed is 800mhz and it works without problems... not sure if results vary from one brand to another though...
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I've installed a USB 3.0 low profile card on my X3200 and now I can transfer files to external drives much faster! :)
patigin naman sir ng usb 3.0 low profile. then how much at saan nyo nabili?
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i got it overseas... once i have free time, will get pics taken...
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For sometime now, my X3200 is running on a quadcore Phenom X4 9350e (65watts only) CPU. It has been stable running with 4gb and Windows 7 Ultimate on stock power supply with a 1.5TB SATA HD equipped with USB 3 ports. It is running 7x24 for general browing stuff as well for running virtualization stuff.
Recently, I started a project to get a secondary X3200 and luckily got one for a reasonable pre-owned cost. This will be used for an HTPC project to run PowerDVD Version 10 - Mark II. However, I cannot find the proven AMD Phenom X4 9350e CPU for sale anymore.
So either I gamble and try the new AM3 type Phenom II CPU's like those described from this URL (basically using the AM3 type CPU's on an AM2+ compatible motherboard):
http://shop.amd.com/US/_layouts/shop/shop-amd.aspx?collection=shop-us-en&csquery=-processor%3aOpteron&filter=category%3aProcessor&filter=powerwattage%3a65&sortby=$score&hits=10&offset=0
http://shop.amd.com/US/_layouts/shop/shop-amd.aspx?collection=shop-us-en&csquery=-processor%3aOpteron&filter=category%3aProcessor&filter=powerwattage%3a65&sortby=$score&hits=10&offset=30
based on the following notes:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/280700-28-cpus
Any chance that someone has tried this before?
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If ever sir, you will the first one to try it. Anyways, goodluck. I also plan to replace my cpu but not as of now. ;)
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Trying to get 4GB x 2 DDR2 mem chips first to see whether this can handle 8gb total sys memory...
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If ever sir, you will the first one to try it. Anyways, goodluck. I also plan to replace my cpu but not as of now. ;)
Just in case you proceed, I think you can opt for either the Phenom II or the Athlon II's as long as you limit it to the 65watts or less CPU choices from AMD... ::)
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Have a problem with My x3200. The screen goes blank after a few minutes of surfing, tapos umiingay yung fan. Pag inunplug ko then reboot, OK na naman tapos after a few minutes ganun ulit, haaay. :-\
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Una muna....baka Video Card, kulang ang Driver.....O' kaya nag-o-overheat na ang Videocard....kung hindi....mukhang overheating nang processor, baka sira ang processor fan hindi umi-ikot ang blades :P
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check mo kung madumi na fans ng CPU mo. in case nagkabit ka ng dedicated graphics baka nag overheat yun.
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Una muna....baka Video Card, kulang ang Driver.....O' kaya nag-o-overheat na ang Videocard....kung hindi....mukhang overheating nang processor, baka sira ang processor fan hindi umi-ikot ang blades :P
This happened to me before. The CPU fan died down on me. The PC just shutdown by itself. Upon reboot, it will work for a very few minutes and then shutdown.
I had to replace the CPU fan using a surplus CPU fan from HMR Philippines.
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May mga Brand New nang CPU fan para sa AMD 64X2 natin sa CDR-King. ;) ;D
Ito' naman ay kung gusto mo lang palitan ang Surplus blades mo from HMR. ;) ;D
Pero kung maganda pa ang bigay hangin nang fan....tuloy mo na lang. ;) ;D
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May mga Brand New nang CPU fan para sa AMD 64X2 natin sa CDR-King. ;) ;D
Ito' naman ay kung gusto mo lang palitan ang Surplus blades mo from HMR. ;) ;D
Pero kung maganda pa ang bigay hangin nang fan....tuloy mo na lang. ;) ;D
Hehehe... sipag at tiyaga muna sa HMR cpu fan blade Ka Alfie...
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Have a problem with My x3200. The screen goes blank after a few minutes of surfing, tapos umiingay yung fan. Pag inunplug ko then reboot, OK na naman tapos after a few minutes ganun ulit, haaay. :-\
Just had my X3200 checked from the service center. Apparently, my processor needs to be replaced. However they do not allow upgrading the processor. Has anyone tried upgrading theirs? Does anyone know what processor is compatible? thanks!
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Just had my X3200 checked from the service center. Apparently, my processor needs to be replaced. However they do not allow upgrading the processor. Has anyone tried upgrading theirs? Does anyone know what processor is compatible? thanks!
I am running on an upgraded CPU - AMD quadcore Phenom X4 9350e (65watts only) CPU
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mga bossing, matagaltagal na rin walang post dito... sna lang may makasagot pa sa akin... 2yrs na stock x3200 gamit ko, mainly as htpc... nagtry lng ako ngayon maginstall ng SF4 (di ako pc gamer, bigla kong namiss yung SF2 at ito yung nkita kong latest na SF).. para makalaro ako decently, nka low lahat PC setting.. kaso gapang pa rin pag dating sa movies ng game.. dun ko na naisip na panahon na magupgrade.. nag back read nko...
una sa list ng upgrade ay 1. video card - based sa nabasa ko mukhang pinaka match ay yung 8400GS 512mb (palit), 2. ram - add ako ng 2gb (ok lng ba yung 800mhz na maadd dito sa stock 1gb 667mhz?) at 3. CPU (optional) - di ko sure kung kailangan ko pa magupdate kung kailangan ko lng maglaro ng SF4...
tanong ko mga masters, ok na kaya yung #1 and #2 upgrade para sa SF4? at san ang suggested shop pwede maacquire yung 8400GS at ram at pwede maginstall... di ako sanay sa hardware installs ng PC eh.. pakiramdam ko malakas static ko, baka masira ko pa itong x3200 ko kung ako mismo maginstall... thanks...
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1) Sa experience ko, OK ang processor natin na 64X2 5000.....kaya Oks na iyun' 8400gs Video card, marami na akong pinasok na games nang mga anak ko, wag lang i-maximize and setting Ok na Ok parin ang Games...marami parin akong nakita sa Gilmore as of 2 weeks ago, bibili kasi sana ako nang 9400 na low profile, pero wala nang available puro 8400GS na lang. OO' nga pala, wala nang PALIT, puro Inno3D na lang....Ok rin naman siya, mas mura pa.
2) Ang OS natin na Vista Home Basic ay maximum nang 3 GigRAM lang, kaya kung naka 2 Gig ka na, kayang kaya na iyan, yun' Street Fighter IV 2009 game iyan' di ba?...mukhang OK na ng 2 gig RAM at 512mb sa Video Card, kung maka-ka-kuha ka pa nang 1Gig Video Card mas OK.
3) Rule of thumb sa branded...wag galawin ang processor, pera na lang, kung ito ang sira....si jackryan lang yata ang nag-upgrade, pero sa tagal na nang X3200 natin, kung mag-u-upgrade ka lang, mag buo ka na lang nang bagong AMD....mas mura at safe pa na hindi mag-ca-crash.(tandaan mo ang MoBo natin ay entry level lang).
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1) Sa experience ko, OK ang processor natin na 64X2 5000.....kaya Oks na iyun' 8400gs Video card, marami na akong pinasok na games nang mga anak ko, wag lang i-maximize and setting Ok na Ok parin ang Games...marami parin akong nakita sa Gilmore as of 2 weeks ago, bibili kasi sana ako nang 9400 na low profile, pero wala nang available puro 8400GS na lang. OO' nga pala, wala nang PALIT, puro Inno3D na lang....Ok rin naman siya, mas mura pa.
2) Ang OS natin na Vista Home Basic ay maximum nang 3 GigRAM lang, kaya kung naka 2 Gig ka na, kayang kaya na iyan, yun' Street Fighter IV 2009 game iyan' di ba?...mukhang OK na ng 2 gig RAM at 512mb sa Video Card, kung maka-ka-kuha ka pa nang 1Gig Video Card mas OK.
3) Rule of thumb sa branded...wag galawin ang processor, pera na lang, kung ito ang sira....si jackryan lang yata ang nag-upgrade, pero sa tagal na nang X3200 natin, kung mag-u-upgrade ka lang, mag buo ka na lang nang bagong AMD....mas mura at safe pa na hindi mag-ca-crash.(tandaan mo ang MoBo natin ay entry level lang).
thanks sir alfie... upgrade ko na yung vidcard to 8400gs at ram.. ano sir yung masuggest mo na shop sa gilmore na maginstall ng parts (khit with fee)? medyo mukhang mahihirapan ako sa baklasan ng pc na ito.. kung ordinary casing lng, madali sana eh.. pagsilip ko dito sa x3200, di ko sure kung san sisimulan yung pagtanggal, hehe
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Madali lang mag bukas.. ;D
Unahin mo ang front panel, maki-kita mo kung saan ang snap lock niya sa ibaba, tapos tuloy tuloy na siya......
.......Pero kung takot ka talaga, tawagan mo na lang si Kiko(Francis) kapwa member dito, sa 4148071 at 09228233996 kau-sapin mo at talagang OK mag-trabajo dito.. Hindi siya taga Gilmore, pero may shop siya sa may Quezon Boulevard.
Ang mahirap kasi sa Gilmore, maliit ang parts niyan, baka pag may nawala hindi basta basta ma-palitan, eh's sa Gilmore, ang si-sikip at magu-gulo ang setup.
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Madali lang mag bukas.. ;D
Unahin mo ang front panel, maki-kita mo kung saan ang snap lock niya sa ibaba, tapos tuloy tuloy na siya......
.......Pero kung takot ka talaga, tawagan mo na lang si Kiko(Francis) kapwa member dito, sa 4148071 at 09228233996 kau-sapin mo at talagang OK mag-trabajo dito.. Hindi siya taga Gilmore, pero may shop siya sa may Quezon Boulevard.
Ang mahirap kasi sa Gilmore, maliit ang parts niyan, baka pag may nawala hindi basta basta ma-palitan, eh's sa Gilmore, ang si-sikip at magu-gulo ang setup.
sige sir, try ko sa weekend buksan (medyo malayo sa akin yung quezon blvd.)... thanks ulit
edit: for reference, nka kuha ako ng link ng service manual ng x1200/x3200.. nkita ko sa avsforum.. (useful reference, ganda ng step by step instruction)
http://www.mediafire.com/?zkjzokxojot
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nice find. Thanks! So pede pala ang mobo sa AM2+
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erwin mag geforce 210 ddr3 ka nalang para mabilis. Kaya lang maghahanap ka pa low profile bracket. sa pc express ako bumili ng 210 at malaki ang difference niya mula sa onboard.
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mga sirs, nakabili nko ng palit 8400gs.. kaso pagpunta ko sa bios, di maselect ang hybrid sli.. lagi lng disabled.. ano kya mga sir ang problema? dun po sa mga successful na install ng 8400gs, ano po yung driver version ng gamit ninyo?.. yung initial na nkainstall sa akin for 8200 ay 182.50 (tinry ko na rin yung 178)... di nya madetect yung 8400gs.. standard vga lng kita ng vista... tapos install ko yung kasama na cd sa 8400gs, nadetect na nya, pero yung 8200, naging 9200 na.. tapos hindi pa rin nya madetect for hybrid sli enable sa bios...
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1st-connect via the on board VGA, not with the 8400GS
start the PC, go to bios, it should detect the 8400gs and be ready for auto Hybrid SLI.
....if not, turn off.....take out the bios battery, wait a few seconds, then put it back on and turn on the PC
this will prompt you to the f1 f2 page.
set the bios time, date etc.....then check out the Hybrid SLI.
if this will no t do the trick, you'll have to reset the CMOS.
Look for the CMOS on the MoBo, remove the battery, place the jumper on the reset pins(it's in the manual), wait for 9 seconds, then placed back the jumper pins on the original position, then put back the battery, then turn on the PC.....this should do the trick.
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1st-connect via the on board VGA, not with the 8400GS
start the PC, go to bios, it should detect the 8400gs and be ready for auto Hybrid SLI.
....if not, turn off.....take out the bios battery, wait a few seconds, then put it back on and turn on the PC
this will prompt you to the f1 f2 page.
set the bios time, date etc.....then check out the Hybrid SLI.
if this will no t do the trick, you'll have to reset the CMOS.
Look for the CMOS on the MoBo, remove the battery, place the jumper on the reset pins(it's in the manual), wait for 9 seconds, then placed back the jumper pins on the original position, then put back the battery, then turn on the PC.....this should do the trick.
sir alfie, already done your first tip... no success... about removing bios battery and resetting cmos, di ko pa nagawa ito... pag tinanggal yung bat or reset ng cmos, ano sir ang mangyayari sa bios data? madedefault or mawawala lahat ng info? di pa ako nakapagtry mag reset kasi ng bios kahit dati, may potential risk ba sa ganito?.. thanks sir sa mga tips...
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none all data will be erased and set back to default, thus, you'll have to set the time and date....BTW it's military time, so, it should be 1 till 24(24 is 12MN).
Since it's a X3200 Acer, only thing you'll need to set is the time,all others are still within factory settings.
......BTW when removing the battery, make sure you've unplug your unit.
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none all data will be erased and set back to default, thus, you'll have to set the time and date....BTW it's military time, so, it should be 1 till 24(24 is 12MN).
Since it's a X3200 Acer, only thing you'll need to set is the time,all others are still within factory settings.
......BTW when removing the battery, make sure you've unplug your unit.
sir, hindi na talaga nagenable yung hybrid sli, nkailang reset nko ng bios/cmos... ginawa ko na lang muna dretso sa 8400gs yung monitor... tumaas na rin naman yung index to 4. (pag onboard, index ko lng ay 3.2).. ano pala yung index na nkukuha sa hybrid/boost dun sa x3200 mo?.. nalalaro ko na ng maayos yung sf4... duda ko yung bios version.. kasi maski pagdisable ng onboard, wla ako makita sa bios settings.. choice lng ng primary device ang meron.. so nkaset lng muna ako ngyon sa pciex... ano sir yung bios version dun sa x3200 mo? yung sakin 7/29/2008 (A3)... try ko magtanong rin sa acer kung ano yung latest bios dapat sa x3200 o kaya sa kanila ko na lng paenable yung hybrid... thanks
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mga sir meron na ba dito nagtry mag install ng 64bit OS? may mga issues ba? thanks
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anybody here tried adding a bd writer ?
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mga boss x3200 user here since sept 2008
nalilito lang ako kung pano hanapin yung realtek settings. hehe napaka noob na task pero di ko mahanap. pa help naman mga sir salamat
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Whats the highest spec nvidia video card can fit inside?
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mga boss x3200 user here since sept 2008
nalilito lang ako kung pano hanapin yung realtek settings. hehe napaka noob na task pero di ko mahanap. pa help naman mga sir salamat
Control Panel
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sir di ko makita dun sa sounds sa control panel. pahelp naman yung exact location. pasensya na kung spoon feeding na
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andre
kung kaya ng psu 9500gt low profile.
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I was planning invidia gtx430, anybody using this?
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gt 430 mukang malabo. magiinit lang yan at mamatay pc dahil overheat. siguro mas ok pa mag gt220 ka nalang malakas narin naman yun. si chev31 nag ecs gt220 pero di daw niya masara side panel pero meron siyang nakitang asus version sa octagon na mukang pwede. pero sige try mo rin gt430 baka low power and less heat siguro siya kaysa sa gt220.
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If I can find a store thats selling it, and willing to take it back if it wont fit. :D
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mukhang plano ko bumili nitong gt 430 ngaung month kaso ang laki ng heat sink hehehe. pero mas mababa power consumption kaya better kesa 9500gt or gt220... kelan kaya magsale sa gilmore ::)
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I got an MSI GT 430 for my x3200. hindi ko na masara ung case hehehe
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upgraded my ram to 3gb from 2gb. Kingston PC2 5300. pc express nagupgrade gumana naman siya nung ginagamit ko siya dun sa pc express. pero pagkauwi ko nag blue screen. pabawas siya ng pabawas. nung nilaro ko gothic 3 na blue screen tapos naglaro uli ako quit nag blue screen uli after nun pagkalaro ko ng games ng ilang mins binuksan ko uli gothic 3 tapos quit and then nagsurf nag BSOD ulit. sa gothic 3 kaya problema? kasi after ilang mins kong run yung gothic 3 tapos quit nag blue screen after some time. RAM kaya problema or yung game?
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Alam ko basta Blue screen Hardware iyan'.......baka di' compatible ang RAM mo.....o' kaya ang Video card mo ang may problema.
Tawag nag pala diyan ay BSOD(Blue Screen Of Death) kaya Hardware ang unang hinala palagi.
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ram nga problem. pinalitan nila ng same size. yung isa kinabit nila mga bagong version ng ddr2 kaya di naging compatible pero nagkabit yung pc express ng bagong ddr2 na kingston din pero same height dun sa luma ko tapos wala ng blue screen.
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naka Windows 7 64bit edition ba kayo on your X3200?
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mga sirs, nakabili nko ng palit 8400gs.. kaso pagpunta ko sa bios, di maselect ang hybrid sli.. lagi lng disabled.. ano kya mga sir ang problema? dun po sa mga successful na install ng 8400gs, ano po yung driver version ng gamit ninyo?.. yung initial na nkainstall sa akin for 8200 ay 182.50 (tinry ko na rin yung 178)... di nya madetect yung 8400gs.. standard vga lng kita ng vista... tapos install ko yung kasama na cd sa 8400gs, nadetect na nya, pero yung 8200, naging 9200 na.. tapos hindi pa rin nya madetect for hybrid sli enable sa bios...
My Vista OS updated last Saturday, after-which I noticed that the Hybrid SLI was not recognized anymore, and my chip set became 9200gs, which was causing very unstable graphic resolutions, thus I went to the bios and discovered that I'm in the same situation that the Hybrid SLI was disabled and there's no way to enable it, so what I did was incorporate a dvi cable into my 8400gs and maintain the HDMI so that when I get to the bios to modify as a safety precaution, thus to my surprised the Hybrid SLI was now enabled, thus the Hybrid sli is now working again.
This is for info to those interested and have not found a way to circumvent the problem before.
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erwin111....sorry for the late reply, I know it took more than a year but since it was not happening to me, I wouldn't try to experiment on my unit.....BTW further readings indicated that the latest Vista update and from the NVIDIA site, the updates were meant to conserve energy, thus seemingly, if you don't use it, you lose it.
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Doc Alfie, musta na? How are things?
I bought a second pre-owned X3200 and was trying to get it set-up for the same AMD 4way CPU but didn't work this time. Not sure whether it has to do with the default OS or other factors but doing a visual check the board lay-out and other stuff is directly similar to the first X3200 that I have and still running on a 7x24 basis which I successfully loaded the upgrade CPU before without problems.
So far it's been reliable... and was wondering if you or anyone in this thread had a chance to incorporate an additional internal fan so that the HD ambient heat gets dissipitated a little bit...
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Jackryan- External electric fan lang ang gamit ko, di' kakayanin nang power supply....pero iba ang pang 24/7 ko...iyun' laptop ko na nareball na.....ito ay pang HTPC parin. ;)
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Sirs, my internal ethernet LAN does not work anymore. LAN lights indicator at the back panel are off. Tried several things already but nothing happens. Even bios update doesnt help. Any advise would be appreciated. Thanks inadvance.
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The LAN port is the one that I reporteded years back to run hot and disappear, thus wht I did was buy the usb LAN from CDR-King just in case it disappears permanently.(I presume you've tried going into manage and checking into youor LAN's driver).
The CDR-King USB lan works well and can withstand continious downloads, I also bought the cheap realtek wireless, and it also works seemlessly, however it gets hot in such a short time. BTW when uploading the driver, turn off the user permit and do it manually, look for the Vista driver, otherwise, installation will fail. ;) ;D
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My Vista OS updated last Saturday, after-which I noticed that the Hybrid SLI was not recognized anymore, and my chip set became 9200gs, which was causing very unstable graphic resolutions, thus I went to the bios and discovered that I'm in the same situation that the Hybrid SLI was disabled and there's no way to enable it, so what I did was incorporate a dvi cable into my 8400gs and maintain the HDMI so that when I get to the bios to modify as a safety precaution, thus to my surprised the Hybrid SLI was now enabled, thus the Hybrid sli is now working again.
This is for info to those interested and have not found a way to circumvent the problem before.
p.s.
erwin111....sorry for the late reply, I know it took more than a year but since it was not happening to me, I wouldn't try to experiment on my unit.....BTW further readings indicated that the latest Vista update and from the NVIDIA site, the updates were meant to conserve energy, thus seemingly, if you don't use it, you lose it.
sir alfie, better late than never :D..
btw, still using the my x3200 solely as htpc.. display is still connected directly to the 8400gs.. never tried again to enable the hybrid sli.. but with your recent finding, i would try again.. anyway, what is your current nvidia driver version? is it with the 3d vision? if i remember right, later versions of nvidia drivers have disabled the hybrid sli.. i'm currently using with 3d vision drivers, this version might have already disabled the hybrid sli... but downgrading the drivers for hybrid sli, i might not be able to use the 3d vision function, is this correct?
let's say, ok yung drivers ko for hybrid sli, is there any connected display in the dvi connection of the 8400gs when you were successfully enabled again the hybrid sli? hdmi connection in the 8200 on board? then all of a sudden hybrid sli enabling is possible in bios? thanks..
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sir alfie, better late than never ..
btw, still using the my x3200 solely as htpc.. display is still connected directly to the 8400gs.. never tried again to enable the hybrid sli.. but with your recent finding, i would try again.. anyway, what is your current nvidia driver version? is it with the 3d vision? if i remember right, later versions of nvidia drivers have disabled the hybrid sli.. i'm currently using with 3d vision drivers, this version might have already disabled the hybrid sli... but downgrading the drivers for hybrid sli, i might not be able to use the 3d vision function, is this correct?..
Yes you are probably right, you see, I lose the Hybrid sli, when I upgraded my NVIDIA driver afterwhich, when I tried to downgrade, it wouldn't let me telling me that the driver is obsolete thus, I uninstalled/removed the driver, then installed the old driver, in which initially did nothing and I was about to give up until I decided to just use the 8500gs and it was during this time that the hybrid sli re-aapeared.
let's say, ok yung drivers ko for hybrid sli, is there any connected display in the dvi connection of the 8400gs when you were successfully enabled again the hybrid sli? hdmi connection in the 8200 on board? then all of a sudden hybrid sli enabling is possible in bios? thanks..
No, the thing that happened was that I connected the VGA of my 8500gs to my LCD, and when no graphics displayed, I reconnected the HDMI to my on board 8200 video, thus the display,and the icon for the Hybrid SLI reappeared.
BTW if the 3D driver is OK with you, maybe you better stay with it, the reason mine did not work was becasue I was still connected to the onboard HDMI, so I just tried to look for a workaround because I thought that my 8200gs cannot bear with the new driver, and beside I miss seeing the hybrid icon. ;)
Anyway, as the americans often quote, if it ain't broken, don't fix....mine just got broken, thus I went for a fix.....your's might be better than what I have right now. :)
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installed an Asus GT430 video low profile card without problem on my son's X3200... so far it's working like a charm...
OT: btw, Bro Alfie, where did you had your laptop re-balled and also does that shop also do PS3's? :)
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installed a GT 520 GEFORCE (Palid) card now and works well... not bad for a more than 4+ years machine... now if I could only find a way to make this accept 8gb system memory, that would be best...
any chance anyone knows where to get locally, a 6pin power cable splitter similar to below?
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41ID0qYifEL._SL500_SS100_.jpg)