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Title: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: agwe on Oct 11, 2008 at 07:44 AM
Any feedbacks?

I need a replacement for my bedroom tv (currently a 21" flat crt) and I saw this one in an appliance store selling for 18k cash.

seems very affordable (especially since a 32 inch would be roughly 12k more)

fits my budget nicely.

feedbacks lang :)
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: Reply_SnS on Oct 11, 2008 at 11:42 AM
Any feedbacks?

I need a replacement for my bedroom tv (currently a 21" flat crt) and I saw this one in an appliance store selling for 18k cash.

seems very affordable (especially since a 32 inch would be roughly 12k more)

fits my budget nicely.

feedbacks lang :)

Pm sent
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: Philjonc on Oct 11, 2008 at 03:21 PM
Any feedbacks?

I need a replacement for my bedroom tv (currently a 21" flat crt) and I saw this one in an appliance store selling for 18k cash.

seems very affordable (especially since a 32 inch would be roughly 12k more)

fits my budget nicely.

feedbacks lang :)

kung sa appliance store yan, malamang mas mahal. meron kaya mas mababa price dito?
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: Reply_SnS on Oct 11, 2008 at 03:36 PM
kung sa appliance store yan, malamang mas mahal. meron kaya mas mababa price dito?

PM sent sir!
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: agwe on Oct 11, 2008 at 03:37 PM
any feedback though? about the quality of the display?

i know its useless looking for 1080p at this size, it has 1 hdmi port and 2 component

seems to fit my needs nicely.  for xbox gaming and watching dvd. 
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: Reply_SnS on Oct 11, 2008 at 03:50 PM
any feedback though? about the quality of the display?

i know its useless looking for 1080p at this size, it has 1 hdmi port and 2 component

seems to fit my needs nicely.  for xbox gaming and watching dvd. 

This particular unit has 5ms response time and will be very good for the Xbox and DVD viewing.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: jackryan on Oct 11, 2008 at 07:25 PM
agwe, which store is this? also is this 1080p capable?
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: agwe on Oct 11, 2008 at 11:05 PM
@jackryan

ambassador greenhills.

but s&s just pm'd me.  cheaper than 18 pa pag cash. hehe

not sure if its 1080p capable.  most likely not.  but it shares most of the features of other series4 samsung lcdtvs
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 12, 2008 at 07:38 AM
usually below 32" uses tft panel ... but they have over 1mp of resolution ..

here's a quick description .. (good enough)
Quote
Watch as stunning, realistic images brighten this 22” LCD flat screen TV. It’s the ideal combination of a sleek, modern design with the latest in high-definition technology. Truly amazing details, complemented by a 3,000:1 dynamic contrast ratio plus vivid colors and bold blacks. The stylish SAMSUNG LN22A450 is the total package with concealed speakers that radiate crisp, clear sound
Screen Size : 21.9"
Aspect Ratio : 16:9
Resolution : 1680 x 1050
HDMI : 1

here's the catch though, it its not showing what type of panel it is using A450 (http://_site_cd=us&group=televisions&group_cd=&type=televisions&type_cd=&subtype=lcdtv&subtype_cd=&model_nm=LN22A450C1D&dType=D&vType=R&mType=UM&model_cd=LN22A450C1DXZA&fullspec=F&prd_ia_cd=02010100&acc_ia_fl=&disp_nm=LN22A450&menu=&isEqualsY=&sel_model_cd=LN22A450C1DXZA) baka tft parin .. baduy .. :D
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: TomE on Oct 12, 2008 at 08:55 AM
This particular unit has 5ms response time and will be very good for the Xbox and DVD viewing.

Please PM me cash price for this also . . .

. . . Thanks!
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: Reply_SnS on Oct 12, 2008 at 01:18 PM
Please PM me cash price for this also . . .

. . . Thanks!

Pm sent.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: Bolshoie on Oct 12, 2008 at 04:31 PM
just learned that my brother has this already,napanalunan nya lang sa raffle, saw it personally and its just like its 32 inch version which i used to have...ok na sya for a 22 inch

Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 13, 2008 at 05:45 AM
just learned that my brother has this already,napanalunan nya lang sa raffle, saw it personally and its just like its 32 inch version which i used to have...ok na sya for a 22 inch
pati panel bro? di ba parang regular lcd monitor, which has bad angles?  ??? ???
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: burnok123 on Oct 13, 2008 at 09:51 AM
sir pa pm din ng price.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: agwe on Oct 13, 2008 at 10:59 AM
dont think it uses a tft panel, but i could be wrong.

but according to what i've read it uses exactly the same stuff that the bigger size series 4 samsung lcdtv uses.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 13, 2008 at 01:30 PM
dont think it uses a tft panel, but i could be wrong.

but according to what i've read it uses exactly the same stuff that the bigger size series 4 samsung lcdtv uses.
if thats the case then its good enough for its price . ..  :)
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: junespawn on Oct 13, 2008 at 06:19 PM
Pm sent.

Pa PM rin po ng price. Thanks!
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: itoT on Oct 15, 2008 at 12:33 AM
Any review on this?
...for gaming?
...for movies dvd/cable?
...as pc monitor?
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 18, 2008 at 12:36 PM
pa pm ng price. thanks.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: leij07 on Oct 18, 2008 at 07:27 PM
pa pm po ng price

thanks
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: itoT on Oct 19, 2008 at 01:40 AM
price is 16k in western trinoma, 16.4k western festival mall...
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: blued888 on Oct 19, 2008 at 02:29 AM
Hindi ba 16:10 ang aspect ratio nito?
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: itoT on Oct 19, 2008 at 12:35 PM
Hindi ba 16:10 ang aspect ratio nito?

as pc monitor 16:10, pag hdmi sa PS3 16:9
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: TomE on Oct 19, 2008 at 01:11 PM
Been using the 22A450 for the past three days, mainly as a pc monitor.

Sulit na sulit siya for the price I paid for it in Western Trinoma!
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: leij07 on Oct 19, 2008 at 02:02 PM
price is 16k in western trinoma, 16.4k western festival mall...

bro festival mall sa alabang? 16k lang tagala? sobrang mura ata ng tv na ito..hehe
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: itoT on Oct 19, 2008 at 05:23 PM
@tomE: pip, talagang walang sound? saan ka bumili vga cable? yung cdrking ang pangit eh...i have to borrow pa the samsung vga cable of another pc...

@leij07: 16.4k po festival mall alabang.


the downside:
the built in speaker is not that good...basag pag medyo lalaksan mo.
PIP has no sound...so kapag naka PC mode ka, walang sound yung TV sa corner
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: TomE on Oct 19, 2008 at 07:52 PM
@ itoT: Wala yata talagang sound yung PIP. I'm using a CDR-King hdmi cable to connect the Acer desktop I just bought.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: leij07 on Oct 19, 2008 at 08:02 PM
wow mura na siya..tanung lang po mga bossing, ok ba ito for ps3 at pc? kasi halos ka presyo niya yung hp2208h na model (not sure basta po yung 22 inches na model)..better pa rin po ba ito? anung shop po sa festival mall yun?

please help me decide..thanks!
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: TomE on Oct 19, 2008 at 08:18 PM
Personally, I'd pick an lcd tv over an lcd pc monitor.

Specially since konti na lang ang price difference nitong Samsung over some lcd monitors.

Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: itoT on Oct 19, 2008 at 11:20 PM
ok na ok po ps3...i think 780p is enough for 22" lcd...i'm also using cheap hdmi cable from cdrking P250 yata price...palpak yung vga cable sa cdrking, kaya better use your old branded vga cable...the tv reception is also good...speaker nga lang palpak. sayang walang kasamang htib, pero kung meron, ok na ok na to...

sights and sound has it kaya lang walang stock when i went there, mas ok dito bumili kasi trusted seller na dito. imo, this is a better choice than hp...mas solid yung panel nito, built in tuner/speaker...
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: anchit on Oct 21, 2008 at 06:20 PM
i saw this in singapore yesterday, 588SGD with a free dvd player
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: gunblade977 on Oct 23, 2008 at 06:33 PM
I was able to audition this today.
All I can say is wow  :D, it doesn't seem to suffer the viewing angles of regular 22" lcd monitors.
I had an HP 2207h paired with a tv box before and it seems this performs better.
Also, the 3w speakers are powerful enough to be heard(compared to my 2w speakers(HP w2207h).
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: coolbum on Oct 24, 2008 at 09:14 AM
hi...

pwede pong pa-PM din po ng price?


thanks.
 :)
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: taleweaver on Oct 24, 2008 at 02:16 PM
called up Western Appliance in GH and they quoted 16.5K price for this

20,999 for 12 months 0% interest

18,999 bec. of Samsung discount for cash

16,500 bec of extra discount form Western

hope this helps
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: gunblade977 on Oct 24, 2008 at 02:41 PM
pm the resident sellers here  ;) they give it at a much cheaper price  ;) ;)

Just to add, I can't seem to tell if they are using TN panels for these...
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 24, 2008 at 10:55 PM
bought one yest from sns, nice price, free delivery and what have you's....

initial impression (less than 8 hours viewing time):

color: will reserve review after 100hours.

sound: poor bass, poor volume (kahit more than 50% na mahina pa rin), im guessing its because of the effort to hide the speakers, my 14" crt sounds bigger and better. hopefully the sound will improve after the 100hour mark.

lcd viewing angle: great.

over all look and feel: way better than my 32" sony bravia.

Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: iiinas on Oct 24, 2008 at 11:57 PM
bought one yest from sns, nice price, free delivery and what have you's....

initial impression (less than 8 hours viewing time):

color: will reserve review after 100hours.

sound: poor bass, poor volume (kahit more than 50% na mahina pa rin), im guessing its because of the effort to hide the speakers, my 14" crt sounds bigger and better. hopefully the sound will improve after the 100hour mark.

lcd viewing angle: great.

over all look and feel: way better than my 32" sony bravia.



mukhang sa speakers lang medyo sabit sir, pero sa pq mukhang ok! congrats sir!  ;D
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: manunuba on Oct 25, 2008 at 12:16 AM
hi pinoydvd, first post ko  ;D, tanong ko lang kung saang mall o store/tao pa ok bumili ng tv na ito bukod sa trinoma at festival mall. totoo ba ito 16k? planning to buy 22" lcd tv this coming tuesday kasi for my ps3.  at kung ang Resolution: 720p (1366 x 768), hanggang 720p lang pala sya ok na ba ito para sa ps3? kakapagod kasi magcanvas.  ;D
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 25, 2008 at 03:11 PM
mukhang sa speakers lang medyo sabit sir, pero sa pq mukhang ok! congrats sir!  ;D

thanks sir. nakakasanayan din naman yong sound specially as it is for the room lang but im planning to add a 2.1 speaker system to it soon.

as i see yong speakers are quite small tapos nakatalikod pa sya. samsung says its tru srs, but still sobrang hina kasi. anyway 2 days palang naman eto so baka my improvement pa. 
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: taleweaver on Oct 26, 2008 at 02:48 AM
the speakers are indeed weak.

kulang din sa bass.

am hooking it up to a 2.1 system asap


Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: taleweaver on Oct 26, 2008 at 10:05 AM
question:

anyone have the problem that the A450 doesn't seem to remember the picture settings?

anyone with a solution to this?
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: leij07 on Oct 26, 2008 at 12:43 PM
ok na ba ito for ps3 at pc gaming? or better na mag hintay na lang bumabaung mga 32" na mga lcdtv? :)
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: itoT on Oct 28, 2008 at 08:59 AM
maganda rin po sa ps3...i think the 720p is more than  enough kapag naka 22" ka lang, ang dating parang naka full hd ka na...if you have games like little big planet or mgs4...wow astig! maganda rin yung reception sa cable namin habang tumatagal tapos yung sound medyo ok na siya, siguro kailangan lang ng break-in....i use this mostly as pc monitor which is also great! the only negative i can see now is the pip (wala kasing sound!!!) kapag naka pc mode ka...but still, i think this is the best 22" lcd monitor at a budget price...

e-reply has this, i think he has a better price than western....sayang lang at nakabili na ko bago siya nagreply sa pm...
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: gunblade977 on Oct 28, 2008 at 11:21 AM
@itot
cable ready naman na ito right?

Yung sound talga problem if you compare it to CRT tvs, pero as compared sa ibang 22 LCD monitors with built in speakers. Mas maganda ito  ;D
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: Reply_SnS on Oct 28, 2008 at 12:14 PM
bought one yest from sns, nice price, free delivery and what have you's....

initial impression (less than 8 hours viewing time):

color: will reserve review after 100hours.

sound: poor bass, poor volume (kahit more than 50% na mahina pa rin), im guessing its because of the effort to hide the speakers, my 14" crt sounds bigger and better. hopefully the sound will improve after the 100hour mark.

lcd viewing angle: great.

over all look and feel: way better than my 32" sony bravia.



Thank you for your purchase.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: anchit on Oct 28, 2008 at 12:22 PM
mas mura pa ke western kesa sa aring resident seller, that is kung 16k nga sya sa western.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: itoT on Oct 28, 2008 at 05:03 PM
@itot
cable ready naman na ito right?

Yung sound talga problem if you compare it to CRT tvs, pero as compared sa ibang 22 LCD monitors with built in speakers. Mas maganda ito  ;D

cable ready po...hindi naman too much of a problem yung sounds sa ken...but it's the weakest point of this item. kapag naka pc nga ako, i don't use extra speakers whenever i open itunes, contented na ko sa output ng built in speakers. pq wala akong masabi, mapa pc, cable tv, bluray, dvd...i'm so happy i chose to buy this over the samsung t220 for a pc monitor...all around performance, panalo talaga!
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: leij07 on Oct 28, 2008 at 09:33 PM
bro,

wala bang ghosting pag games or movies? malinaw ba yung text? anung reso ang gamit mo pag gamit sya for pc? hehe sori daming tanong :)
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: mojito on Oct 28, 2008 at 11:33 PM
western megamall kaya meron?
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: itoT on Oct 29, 2008 at 12:55 AM
bro,

wala bang ghosting pag games or movies? malinaw ba yung text? anung reso ang gamit mo pag gamit sya for pc? hehe sori daming tanong :)

walang ghosting, 5 ms na po to...malinaw na malinaw ang text sa ps3 and pc but use hdmi (kahit cheap cdking brand, ok!) or vga with ferrite core (wag ka bibili ng cdking vga walang fc, hehehe ang panget!!)...1680x1050 resolution...
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u302/tssalgado/Picture2.png)
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: leij07 on Oct 29, 2008 at 08:44 AM
wow astig..now im torn..haha gsto ko na bumili..pero baka naman bglang bumagsak ang price ng mga lcdtv..meron kasi ako nabasa na article na price would go down up to 399$ sa mga32" na tv hehe
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: manunuba on Oct 29, 2008 at 05:47 PM
Hi,

We are from sights and sounds and please allow us to give you a quote for your T.V requirement

Samsung 22A450

Cash/6 moths cc/12 months cc

P16500.; P17820.; P18975


All TV purchased include FREE HDMI cable.

We do free delivery and installation on the same day.  We also accept
C.O.D. transaction, which means that we can accept payment after we do
delivery and installation of your LCD TV.

Please note that TV purchased from Sights and Sounds is covered with
3-year After Sales Assistance Program (ASAP), which includes FREE
delivery and installation of TV, FREE manual cable programming
according to cable station IDs' channels, color calibration, on-site technical assistance
like going for another round of cable fine-tunning, and also providing
service unit while your TV is under repair,etc.

We look forward to seeing you at Sights and Sounds 4th level
Shangri-La Plaza. For further inquiry, please call 634-1789 to 90, or
call 09175413491( for discounts). Look for our sales staff Jun, Hazel, Jonjon or Paul for assistance

Thank you and we do look forward to hearing from you very soon!


Wallbracket for 32 inches = 1,500
Wallbracket for 42 to 52 inches = 2k fixed, 3k with tilt
All with labor



reply_sns, ano ba name ng may ari ng cel number na ibinigay mo? akala namin 16500, bakit tumawag kami naging 17000 hindi pa daw ksma HDMI cable at delivery. Labo nyo. wag kayo msg ng puro kasinungalingan. Tumawag din kami sa 634-1789, 17000 naman daw free delivery na at ksma na daw hdmi cable. BOO1BOO1

si wanderlolo nakabili daw sa inyo 16000 lang.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: Reply_SnS on Oct 29, 2008 at 06:23 PM
reply_sns, ano ba name ng may ari ng cel number na ibinigay mo? akala namin 16500, bakit tumawag kami naging 17000 hindi pa daw ksma HDMI cable at delivery. Labo nyo. wag kayo msg ng puro kasinungalingan. Tumawag din kami sa 634-1789, 17000 naman daw free delivery na at ksma na daw hdmi cable. BOO1BOO1

si wanderlolo nakabili daw sa inyo 16000 lang.

Sorry, but new stocks have already been given to us at a higher price. The current price now is pegged at 17,000. Again we apologize for the inconvenience.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: oysterboy on Oct 29, 2008 at 08:01 PM
hello guys. i dont know if this would help those who are planning to buy the LA22a450 :) Im selling samsung lcd tvs, from 52inches to 22inches (from series 3 to 7). My price for the LA22a450 is P17,500. BRANDNEW, SEALED and from SAMSUNG PHILIPPINES, hence the warranty is nationwide for 1 year and 3 months :) You can call the Samsung Toll Free contact center at 1800-10samsung and they will send a technical crew to your house anywhere in the Philippines for any installation/service/warranty concerns :)

For more info, you could text me at 09178369336 or 09228369336 :)

P.S.  Since the main concern for the LA22a450 is the sound, I could offer you a hometheater bundle (subject to availability) for P5,000 only. The HT-Z210 that sells for P19,990. Home theater bundle is only available to those who buy 26inches LCD and above but I get extras sometimes from buyers who dont want to avail it, so I offer it to you guys :)

Oysterboy
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 30, 2008 at 12:14 AM
Thank you for your purchase.

Ur welcome sir.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 30, 2008 at 12:18 AM
reply_sns, ano ba name ng may ari ng cel number na ibinigay mo? akala namin 16500, bakit tumawag kami naging 17000 hindi pa daw ksma HDMI cable at delivery. Labo nyo. wag kayo msg ng puro kasinungalingan. Tumawag din kami sa 634-1789, 17000 naman daw free delivery na at ksma na daw hdmi cable. BOO1BOO1

si wanderlolo nakabili daw sa inyo 16000 lang.

Bro, i have to correct you on that, i said i bought mine for 16,500 not 16,000.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: Reply_SnS on Oct 30, 2008 at 12:27 AM
Ur welcome sir.

Thank you again, just call us if you need to have your unit color calibrated=)
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: manunuba on Oct 31, 2008 at 01:12 AM
Sorry, but new stocks have already been given to us at a higher price. The current price now is pegged at 17,000. Again we apologize for the inconvenience.

wala naman ganyang sinabi yung nakausap namin. naintindihan ko sana agad. pero ok na.

Bro, i have to correct you on that, i said i bought mine for 16,500 not 16,000.

ah k sorry, naguluhan lang kasi ako sa pm sakin ni Reply_SnS. kontak namin yung cel number, 17k daw hindi free ang delivery pero ksma na hdmi, at tumawad kami kung pede ng 16500. ayaw, ganung nakalagay sa pm nya e "call 09175413491( for discounts)". Then tumawag kami sa 634-1789, ayun dun pa kami nakakuha discount, nakuha namin 16500. free delivery at hdmi cable. palpak nga lang delivery walang manual, kanina ko lang napansin,nakalimutan ata kaya babalikan pa >.<.

pero ok yung tv lalo na para sa mga gamers na kapos ang budget na gusto bumili ng hdtv para sa game consoles nila.

Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: itoT on Oct 31, 2008 at 01:34 AM
hello guys. i dont know if this would help those who are planning to buy the LA22a450 :) Im selling samsung lcd tvs, from 52inches to 22inches (from series 3 to 7). My price for the LA22a450 is P17,500. BRANDNEW, SEALED and from SAMSUNG PHILIPPINES, hence the warranty is nationwide for 1 year and 3 months :) You can call the Samsung Toll Free contact center at 1800-10samsung and they will send a technical crew to your house anywhere in the Philippines for any installation/service/warranty concerns :)

For more info, you could text me at 09178369336 or 09228369336 :)

P.S.  Since the main concern for the LA22a450 is the sound, I could offer you a hometheater bundle (subject to availability) for P5,000 only. The HT-Z210 that sells for P19,990. Home theater bundle is only available to those who buy 26inches LCD and above but I get extras sometimes from buyers who dont want to avail it, so I offer it to you guys :)

Oysterboy

ay sayang gusto ko ng ht-z210, kaya lang nakabili na ko...
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: oysterboy on Oct 31, 2008 at 03:41 AM
ay sayang gusto ko ng ht-z210, kaya lang nakabili na ko...

Maybe next time :)
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: m0b1u5 on Oct 31, 2008 at 02:22 PM
hello guys. i dont know if this would help those who are planning to buy the LA22a450 :) Im selling samsung lcd tvs, from 52inches to 22inches (from series 3 to 7). My price for the LA22a450 is P17,500. BRANDNEW, SEALED and from SAMSUNG PHILIPPINES, hence the warranty is nationwide for 1 year and 3 months :) You can call the Samsung Toll Free contact center at 1800-10samsung and they will send a technical crew to your house anywhere in the Philippines for any installation/service/warranty concerns :)

For more info, you could text me at 09178369336 or 09228369336 :)

P.S.  Since the main concern for the LA22a450 is the sound, I could offer you a hometheater bundle (subject to availability) for P5,000 only. The HT-Z210 that sells for P19,990. Home theater bundle is only available to those who buy 26inches LCD and above but I get extras sometimes from buyers who dont want to avail it, so I offer it to you guys :)

Oysterboy
Cash basis lang ba 'to or pwede swipe?
I'm thinking of replacing my 19" with this one.

thanks
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: oysterboy on Oct 31, 2008 at 05:48 PM
Cash basis lang ba 'to or pwede swipe?
I'm thinking of replacing my 19" with this one.

thanks

Hello dennispm,

 Yes! All transactions are cash basis only. Feel free to text me at 09178369336 or 09228369336 if you need more information. Id be happy to give you a call :)

By the way, im giving a 3% rebate after a successful referral after your first purchase. FYI!

Thanks for the inquiry.

Oyster

Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: mojito on Nov 01, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Oyster bat mas mahal pa price mo? Di mo ba nabasa post ni Manunuba? Di ba kaya sa price na kuha nya?
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: itoT on Nov 02, 2008 at 11:01 AM
o baka may bibili kay oysterboy na ayaw ng htib...hehe dito lang ako...
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 02, 2008 at 11:26 AM
o baka may bibili kay oysterboy na ayaw ng htib...hehe dito lang ako...
there are a lot of HTIB right now that are selling for 10k (e.g.panasonic with tallboy), or 5k without the tallboy option .. :)
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: oysterboy on Nov 02, 2008 at 11:49 AM
Oyster bat mas mahal pa price mo? Di mo ba nabasa post ni Manunuba? Di ba kaya sa price na kuha nya?

I PMed you :) thanks,

oyster
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: jefferson on Nov 02, 2008 at 08:02 PM
interested to buy this unit po.. email me... [email protected]
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: mojito on Nov 02, 2008 at 09:50 PM
Oyster got your pm. Kindly pm me your best price with Z210 package.

thanks
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: cHess on Nov 03, 2008 at 10:54 AM
Ok, kausap si Oyster. Good Deal yan.

Ok 22" A450. Very ideal set-up for HTPC. Very good PQ.

Medyo downside lang yung sounds medyo mahina talaga.

Basag pag malakas na.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: oysterboy on Nov 03, 2008 at 02:44 PM
Ok, kausap si Oyster. Good Deal yan.

Ok 22" A450. Very ideal set-up for HTPC. Very good PQ.

Medyo downside lang yung sounds medyo mahina talaga.

Basag pag malakas na.


Thanks Chess for the vote of confidence. Since mahina nga daw sound ng la22a450, im offering an HT bundle for this :) Plus im giving away a limited edition flask as an early xmas gift to all my buyers :)

Let me know guys if you are interested sa HTz210 for an additional of P5000.00 :)  Subject to availability :)

Oyster
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: stick on Nov 04, 2008 at 02:27 PM
Guys, tanong ko lang kung anong shop sa alabang festival mall yung 16.4K...

Thanks
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: cHess on Nov 04, 2008 at 02:35 PM
Guys, tanong ko lang kung anong shop sa alabang festival mall yung 16.4K...

Thanks

Wala na. Western daw before. Lahat ng price 20,900 na 12 months. Tapos 2k ata less kung cash price. ;)
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: stick on Nov 04, 2008 at 02:40 PM
Ang bilis ng reply ah....

Kung ganun ibig sabihin 18900 na ang price nya... kasi card ang gagamitin ko e.... di naman pwede kay oyster at SnS and card e...
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: E-reply on Nov 04, 2008 at 02:46 PM
Ang bilis ng reply ah....

Kung ganun ibig sabihin 18900 na ang price nya... kasi card ang gagamitin ko e.... di naman pwede kay oyster at SnS and card e...

Hello, We can give P17850. for 3 months installment.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: stick on Nov 04, 2008 at 02:51 PM
Hello, We can give P17850. for 3 months installment.

Really, balak ko kasi I-Cash yung 8k tapos straight card yung remaining (BPI express credit).
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: E-reply on Nov 04, 2008 at 03:20 PM
Really, balak ko kasi I-Cash yung 8k tapos straight card yung remaining (BPI express credit).

Pwedeng cash P8K + 3 months or straight at P9450.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: stick on Nov 04, 2008 at 03:24 PM
San ang store mo? Location? and store hours? I live in Cavite...
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: oysterboy on Nov 04, 2008 at 04:03 PM
San ang store mo? Location? and store hours? I live in Cavite...


Hello stick,

   Text me at 09178369336 or 09228369336 para we could make an arrangement. My house is in Katipunan, near ateneo :)

Oyster
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: oysterboy on Nov 04, 2008 at 04:06 PM
Pwedeng cash P8K + 3 months or straight at P9450.


Hello,

   Baka pwede. Text me at 09178369336 or 09228369336 para we could make an arrangement :)

Oyster
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: E-reply on Nov 04, 2008 at 04:15 PM
San ang store mo? Location? and store hours? I live in Cavite...

Sights and Sounds 4th level Shangri-La Plaza. Tel. 634-1789 to 90. or mobile 0917-5413491.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: stick on Nov 04, 2008 at 04:27 PM

Hello stick,

   Text me at 09178369336 or 09228369336 para we could make an arrangement. My house is in Katipunan, near ateneo :)

Oyster

8k lang ang cash ko... do you accept credit card? do I need to pick it up or do you deliver?
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: mojito on Nov 05, 2008 at 10:15 AM
ala bang group buy dito. sama ako if ever hehehe
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: oysterboy on Nov 05, 2008 at 11:14 AM
ala bang group buy dito. sama ako if ever hehehe

Let me know nalang if ever may nahanap ka :)

oyster
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: phase1youth on Nov 05, 2008 at 09:56 PM
where can i buy this model locally at 16,400 as said in the previous posts?

thanks
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: bardigones on Nov 05, 2008 at 10:22 PM
16k at western.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: phase1youth on Nov 06, 2008 at 11:06 AM
ummm sabi sa previous posts wala na daw sa western..

20,900 na daw and 2k less pag cash

san ba ba meron shop na sell ito ng 16k-17k
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: E-reply on Nov 06, 2008 at 01:26 PM
ummm sabi sa previous posts wala na daw sa western..

20,900 na daw and 2k less pag cash

san ba ba meron shop na sell ito ng 16k-17k

You can avail this TV at P17K cash at Sights and Sounds 4th level Shangri-la Plaza.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: stick on Nov 07, 2008 at 10:17 AM
@ Oyster,

Thanks sa mga offer mo especially sa HITB, but SM also offered me this one... pero nakabili na ko sa SM... at 18.9K plus 200 sa delivery.... kasi naisip ko kung pupunta pa me sa manila... I have to gas upto 400 or 500... then the time and abala... siguro kung dyan pa me nakatira sa makati no problem tayo.... anyway thanks again....

@ E-reply,

Thanks also....

@tomE: pip, talagang walang sound? saan ka bumili vga cable? yung cdrking ang pangit eh...i have to borrow pa the samsung vga cable of another pc...

@leij07: 16.4k po festival mall alabang.


the downside:
the built in speaker is not that good...basag pag medyo lalaksan mo.
PIP has no sound...so kapag naka PC mode ka, walang sound yung TV sa corner

@ itoT,

I just played with the settings... and regading this PIP... pwede syang magka-SOUND.... pero one at a time... its either the main picture or the sub (small) picture.... here the procedure... while in PIP on mode... press tools (remote) then goto sound select, from Main change it to sub... viola... Sound in the sub picture... hope it helps....
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: itoT on Nov 08, 2008 at 02:58 AM
@stick: nice bro...pwede nga :)
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: TomE on Nov 08, 2008 at 10:30 AM
Bakit sa akin walang "Sound Select" option?

Ang meron lang "Sound Mode".
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: itoT on Nov 08, 2008 at 02:22 PM
Bakit sa akin walang "Sound Select" option?

Ang meron lang "Sound Mode".

after turning on the pip...click the "menu" (remote control), down arrow for the "sound"...makikita mo na "sound select"
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: TomE on Nov 08, 2008 at 02:43 PM
@ itoT -- Thanks dude! Got it to work na!
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: mojito on Nov 09, 2008 at 08:12 PM
Got my unit yesterday from SnS yesterday. Ayos sya as PC monitor and HT but when i tried cable viewing grainy sya. bat kaya ganun? 
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 09, 2008 at 08:21 PM
Thank you again, just call us if you need to have your unit color calibrated=)

i surely will sir. Thank you.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: phase1youth on Nov 09, 2008 at 10:07 PM
@mojito

magkano po ito sa SnS?

what do you mean grainy?
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: ch4rdz on Nov 09, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Does anyone play wii on this lcd? Taas kasi ng resolution nya, ok ba ung quality nya when using component when playing wii?
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: stick on Nov 10, 2008 at 08:22 AM
@ Tome...

Sorry mali post ko... hehe...  tama si itoT....

after turning on the pip...click the "menu" (remote control), down arrow for the "sound"...makikita mo na "sound select"

@ Potato...

Haven't tried game consoles, but I have tried watching DVD from a 480p source (wala pa akong HD source e, pero soon bubuo ako ng HTPC)... Quality is at best at 5ft viewing distance(super ganda at linaw), 4ft minimum, 3ft a little blurry on details... havent tried 720p and 1080p... Siguro kung ganito resulution (720/1080) kahit 2 or 3ft super linaw dahil sa liit ng pixel size nito...
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: mojito on Nov 10, 2008 at 12:26 PM
phae1
P16500 cash call ka muna kung mayunit before you gogo.

Stick,
kamusta cable viewing syo? malabo sa kin e?
One more thing, ano magandang vga cable for laptop connection.

Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: stick on Nov 10, 2008 at 03:38 PM
Stick,
kamusta cable viewing syo? malabo sa kin e?
One more thing, ano magandang vga cable for laptop connection.


[/quote]

Sorry wal akong cable e... about laptop connection, di ko pa natry e... sorry... ask itoT, I think na-experience na nya ito....
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 10, 2008 at 11:16 PM
Got my unit yesterday from SnS yesterday. Ayos sya as PC monitor and HT but when i tried cable viewing grainy sya. bat kaya ganun? 

actually yong pakiging malabo nya for cable viewing is dependent sa cable signal. there are times kasi super linaw sya and there are times malabo, as there are 2 lcd units connected sa cable namin, etong samsung then a bravia pag malabo yong samsung sa isang chanel malabo din yong channel na yon bravia. that same channel/station will also be super linaw at certain times and at another grainy at malabnaw yong color.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: mojito on Nov 11, 2008 at 09:18 AM
Solve na malinaw na cable ko. nagpalit lang ako ng cable from splitter papunta sa lcd. binili ko ung 37pesos/meter na RG6 sa Ace. Bumili pa nga ako ng cable amp, ala naman akong diff. na nakikita. Panget lang siguro ung SCi brand na nabili ko.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: itoT on Nov 12, 2008 at 02:20 PM
One more thing, ano magandang vga cable for laptop connection.

 basta ang bibilhin mo yung ferrite core na vga cable kahit walang brand (yun yung parang may bukol sa magkabilang dulo...), pag ordinary ang labo...i bought mine sa tpc for 250 pesos...pwede rin yun sa mga luma niyong monitor...

(http://www.binarydesigns.com.au/ICalbums/albumBD/VGA3100FR.sized.jpg)
(L) with ferrite core, (R) without ferrite core
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: mojito on Nov 14, 2008 at 10:42 AM
thanks itot. bumili na ko ng vga cable sa samsung mismo para sure.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 14, 2008 at 12:56 PM
thanks itot. bumili na ko ng vga cable sa samsung mismo para sure.
greenhills?  btw if i may add, if you guys want a durable and static free vga cable .. settle for 2nd hand old vga cables (circa 2005 and below), for they are thicker and have better quality .. ;)
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: GONEMAD on Nov 14, 2008 at 01:04 PM
how much to kung kasama ung bundled Entertainment System? pa-pm naman po ng price .. thnx
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: phase1youth on Nov 15, 2008 at 06:12 PM
pano ba i set sa cable viewing to?

di ko mapagana eh

Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: baby on Nov 15, 2008 at 08:51 PM
Have been out for a long time and friend of mine is asking which is which? Series 6 (LA46A550P1)  or 109,900 or series 5 (LA40A650A1R)  109,900 also *based on the web published price.

Is there a separate thread dedicated for Samsung?
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: Reply_SnS on Nov 15, 2008 at 09:30 PM
Samsung models re-stocked at Sights and Sounds! (ALL WITH PHILIPPINE GUARANTEE)

Send us a PM for price list
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 15, 2008 at 09:35 PM
Have been out for a long time and friend of mine is asking which is which? Series 6 (LA46A550P1)  or 109,900 or series 5 (LA40A650A1R)  109,900 also *based on the web published price.
Is there a separate thread dedicated for Samsung?

try to post here LCD and Plasma Price Watch ('._.') (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=65921.2310;topicseen).. there are 3 active retailers on that thread .. goodluck ..  ;)
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 15, 2008 at 09:55 PM
Samsung models re-stocked at Sights and Sounds! (ALL WITH PHILIPPINE GUARANTEE)
Send us a PM for price list

PHILIPPINE warranty?  people might get confused .. i just had to correct it ..  :)
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: skrizal on Nov 17, 2008 at 06:36 PM
price list please.

Thanks
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: markmlists on Nov 17, 2008 at 06:52 PM
Hi guys, I was just wondering, what is the vertical size of this model's screen (not including the frame)? Horizontal is 22 but vertical is?

Many Thanks!

Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: samlowry on Nov 17, 2008 at 11:08 PM
guys, important question: is this  using a new panel Na? Yung viewable kahit anung angle including sa baba? I bought a 26 inch Na samsung r7 para sa bathtub perk wala akong makita. Badtrip talaga. Wala Na raw available Na samsung 450 Na 26.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: oysterboy on Nov 17, 2008 at 11:40 PM
guys, important question: is this  using a new panel Na? Yung viewable kahit anung angle including sa baba? I bought a 26 inch Na samsung r7 para sa bathtub perk wala akong makita. Badtrip talaga. Wala Na raw available Na samsung 450 Na 26.

hello,

 i have the samsung LA26a450 :)

oyster
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: E-reply on Nov 18, 2008 at 02:40 PM
guys, important question: is this  using a new panel Na? Yung viewable kahit anung angle including sa baba? I bought a 26 inch Na samsung r7 para sa bathtub perk wala akong makita. Badtrip talaga. Wala Na raw available Na samsung 450 Na 26.

IPS panels is considered the best for watching video from any viewing angles. Unfortunately, Samsung does not have this LCD technology.  :(

We have Samsung latest 26a450. However, this TV is not made of IPS panel.  :)
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: jepoi on Nov 19, 2008 at 12:48 AM
Can the sellers here PM me the price for 22A450 and 26A450.  Please include CC price, straight and installment, if possible.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: oysterboy on Nov 19, 2008 at 12:57 AM
Can the sellers here PM me the price for 22A450 and 26A450.  Please include CC price, straight and installment, if possible.

Thanks.

hello,

 i sent you the complete pricelist. please check your email :)

oyster
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: Reply_SnS on Nov 19, 2008 at 02:25 AM
Can the sellers here PM me the price for 22A450 and 26A450.  Please include CC price, straight and installment, if possible.

Thanks.

Sent price list via pm
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: delubyo22 on Nov 24, 2008 at 03:00 PM
Pricelist please. Thanks
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: Dowals on Nov 24, 2008 at 03:21 PM
sellers. please pm me price quote for the 22A450.. staggered cc, straight cc & cash options please. TIA
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: cHess on Nov 24, 2008 at 10:10 PM
Very nice 22" LCD TV can handle 1080p well.  ;)
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: coolbum on Nov 25, 2008 at 10:07 AM
IPS panels is considered the best for watching video from any viewing angles. Unfortunately, Samsung does not have this LCD technology.  :(

We have Samsung latest 26a450. However, this TV is not made of IPS panel.  :)
sirs, 

anong company/brand po ng lcd tv ang gumagamit ng IPS panels?

thanks po.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 25, 2008 at 12:19 PM
sirs, 

anong company/brand po ng lcd tv ang gumagamit ng IPS panels?

thanks po.


Panasonic
32Le8 (http://www.panasonicviera.co.nz/lcds/tx-32le8.html)
LX80 (http://www.panasonicviera.co.nz/lcds/tx-32lx80.html)
LX800 (http://www.panasonicviera.co.nz/lcds/tx-32lx800.html)
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: stick on Nov 25, 2008 at 12:53 PM
Very nice 22" LCD TV can handle 1080p well.  ;)

huhuhu.... :(  hanggang 480p palang ako!! wala pa akong HD source e.... soon magkakaroon na ko ng HTPC...  :)   
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: stick on Nov 26, 2008 at 02:27 PM
Sorry for the double post...

Ask ko lang sa owners... when used as a PC mon... can you directly install an OS using HDMI connection?  may output ba? I just read kasi sa ibang threads wala raw kasing display until windows detects it... mamaya ko palang kasi susubukan.... I have no alternative monitor and no VGA cable...
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: aj_alf on Nov 27, 2008 at 11:11 AM
magkano na kaya to sa ngayon?
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: anchit on Nov 27, 2008 at 11:19 AM
if im not mistaken you can get it lowest at 16k cash
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: aj_alf on Nov 27, 2008 at 11:29 AM
pwede malaman kung saang store yung 16K? thanks..
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: mojito on Nov 27, 2008 at 01:02 PM
pwede kaya palitan to ng stand para natitilt gaya ng mga lcd monitor???

boss sa SnS 16500 cash
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: jackryan on Nov 27, 2008 at 07:52 PM
 
Can I also get price quotes for straight cash discounted, straight cc and staggered cc for:

1) 22A450
2) 26A450

Please advise contact name, number and location. I will be in Ortigas area tom (11/28-Friday) so if your shop is near and you have stock, I will get one.

Cheers,
-JackRyan
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: jackryan on Nov 27, 2008 at 07:53 PM
@jackryan

ambassador greenhills.

but s&s just pm'd me.  cheaper than 18 pa pag cash. hehe

not sure if its 1080p capable.  most likely not.  but it shares most of the features of other series4 samsung lcdtvs

agwe, bro... where is Sights and Sounds located ba? I am getting confused with my shop names and locations...hehehe... :-)
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: blued888 on Nov 27, 2008 at 10:04 PM
agwe, bro... where is Sights and Sounds located ba? I am getting confused with my shop names and locations...hehehe... :-)

Sights and Sounds is at Shangri-La. Link (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=70382.0)
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: E-reply on Nov 27, 2008 at 10:30 PM
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT FOR TOMMOROW!
Join the 1 DAY SALE on November 28, 2008

Samsung 32" Full HD LA32A330 at P27500. cash. Add P5K for a htib HTZ210.
- strictly 1 day sale, no sale extension
- no free delivery
- Samsung Phil. warranty.
- Free Christmas Concert DVD and CD. (New Added Promo)
- Free TV calibration within Manila after 60 days TV purchase.

Visit Sights and Sounds 4th level Shangri-La Plaza.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: Reply_SnS on Dec 02, 2008 at 12:23 AM
A VERY VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS FROM SIGHTS AND SOUNDS!

December 5 to 6 Christmas Sale On All TVs!!

Sale on the following TVs: Toshiba, Samsung, Sony, Panasonic, Hitachi
Please note that the prices sent thru personal messages prior to the sale date are for reference purposes only. The actual 2 Day Christmas Sale prices will be much lower. Join the SALE and get the best price. We guaranty you - your money's worth for the 2 Day Sale.
- strictly 2 day sale, no sale extension
- no free delivery
- Free Christmas Concert DVD and CD.
- Free TV calibration within Manila after 60 days TV purchase.

Visit Sights and Sounds 4th Level Shangri-La Plaza.

 
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: shoji on Dec 02, 2008 at 02:23 PM
sir kung samsung 22' A450 lang bilhin ko pwede ba mag avail ng HT-Z210T.  :)
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: unintentinal on Dec 02, 2008 at 08:47 PM
Samsung 22" A450 Oweners pis naman ng setup nyo! :)
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: mmanson on Dec 02, 2008 at 09:04 PM
just got one last week! kaso hindi ko masearch ang channel 2 via old school antenna! waah! help!
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: jepoi on Dec 03, 2008 at 02:12 AM
A VERY VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS FROM SIGHTS AND SOUNDS!

December 5 to 6 Christmas Sale On All TVs!!

Sale on the following TVs: Toshiba, Samsung, Sony, Panasonic, Hitachi
Please note that the prices sent thru personal messages prior to the sale date are for reference purposes only. The actual 2 Day Christmas Sale prices will be much lower.

can you send me a price list for this sale, sir?
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: stick on Dec 04, 2008 at 08:23 AM
just got one last week! kaso hindi ko masearch ang channel 2 via old school antenna! waah! help!

ano sir nakuha mona ba channel 2 mo? kung di pa and you can wait up to tomorrow post ko dito yung set up ko for channel 2... Ano ba yung antenna mo? yung rabbit? atleast buy a super antenna yung advertised ni ernie baron... alam ko less than 500 pesos lang yun...
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: aj_alf on Dec 04, 2008 at 10:02 AM
Just bought mine, 16500 at a store in Festival Mall.

I can say, its a Good Buy for its specs at its price.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: gunblade977 on Dec 04, 2008 at 02:53 PM
^ At what shop in Festival were you able to purchase it?
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: wanderlust on Dec 04, 2008 at 11:15 PM
Just an update: Noticed that the remote is slow to respond (or is it the TV?) when changing channels, etc. This is my first samsung so the comparison is based on my bravia remote and that of my previous crt's, a panasonic and a philips.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: raptor on Dec 06, 2008 at 12:05 AM
Guys, any feedback on the quality when using this mainly as a PC monitor?  I'm contemplating on either buying this model or the Samsung T220 PC monitor...both are 22-inch LCD, the pros and cons for each model are as follows -

Samsung 22 - A450

Pros:
1. has TV tuner and speaker - i have a tuner on my PC, but using this would allow me to view tv without powering-up the PC
2. has component video input - i can connect a game console as a secondary input device

Cons:
1. only has vga analog port - no dvi port ... i need to buy an hdmi to dvi converter cable to go digital
2. only 5000:1 contrast ratio


Samsung T220 PC monitor

Pros:
1. 20,000:1 contrast ratio
2. This model physically looks like the series 7 models with red trimmings - much much better aethetically
3. Comes free with a Samsung 7-inch digital photo frame worth almost 5k (promo up to Dec. 31 only)
4. almost 1.5k cheaper than the 22-inch tv

Cons:
1. no other input besides the DVI and VGA port - it will be dedicated to the PC connection
2. no tuner and speaker - i'll have to power on my PC for this

For guys building an htpc, the T220 is a good buy ...especially with the ongoing promo
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: jackryan on Dec 06, 2008 at 12:07 AM
Guys, any feedback on the quality when using this mainly as a PC monitor?  I'm contemplating on either buying this model or the Samsung T220 PC monitor...both are 22-inch LCD, the pros and cons for each model are as follows -

Samsung 22 - A450

Pros:
1. has TV tuner and speaker - i have a tuner on my PC, but using this would allow me to view tv without powering-up the PC
2. has component video input - i can connect a game console as a secondary input device

Cons:
1. only has vga analog port - no dvi port ... i need to buy an hdmi to dvi converter cable to go digital
2. only 5000:1 contrast ratio


Samsung T220 PC monitor

Pros:
1. 20,000:1 contrast ratio
2. This model physically looks like the series 7 models with red trimmings - much much better aethetically
3. Comes free with a Samsung 7-inch digital photo frame worth almost 5k (promo up to Dec. 31 only)
4. almost 1.5k cheaper than the 22-inch tv

Cons:
1. no other input besides the DVI and VGA port - it will be dedicated to the PC connection
2. no tuner and speaker - i'll have to power on my PC for this

For guys building an htpc, the T220 is a good buy ...especially with the ongoing promo


How much is the T220? I am also interested in the Samsung 7-inch digital photo frame...
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: raptor on Dec 06, 2008 at 12:43 AM
How much is the T220? I am also interested in the Samsung 7-inch digital photo frame...

one shop in tipid pc is selling the unit at 13,700 ... another shop is selling at 13k (Seamax), and Villman is selling the unit at 15,999 .... you can see the details of the promo in the Villman website - http://www.villman.com/Product-Detail/samsung_T220 and here's the details of the promo - http://www.villman.com/Page/Capture-Special-Moments-this-Christmas

the 13k+ pricing should be the real selling price, medyo mahal lang talaga sa Villman ... yung 19-inch model kasi (T-190) is selling for around 10k+ lang ... it should not matter however kung saan mo binili to get the freebie ... Samsung kasi yung promo - check out the links I posted above

decided na rin ako to get the T220 instead of the 22-A450 TV ... another advantage pala ng T220 is 2ms response time compared to 5ms of the 22-A450 ....you can check out the specs on samsung .com.ph  .... reading back on the thread, there's also a comment na medyo blurred yung 22-A450 pag around 3ft yung viewing distance - then I guess di sya ok for using it primarily as PC monitor
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: itoT on Dec 06, 2008 at 01:35 AM
i was thinking of buying the t220hd over the 22a450 before...pero i ended up buying the a450... and i think i made the right choice.

samsung t series has the cheap tn panel (twisted nematic)...22a450 uses the same panel as the higher model samsung lcdtv...tn panel has a faster response time but viewing angle is restrictive that's why it's commonly used as pc monitor only...panget especially when you view it from below or sa side...my sister has t190 and she bought a tv box for it, hehehe ang labo ng picture whenever na manood ka na nakahiga sa bed...

i use my a450 50% as a pc monitor, sharp po siya, di blurred ...just use the right cable (ferrite core vga gamit ko),  kasi walang kasamang vga cable ito unlike in t190/t220 kaya kapag gumamit ka ng cable na panget (gaya ng nabili ko sa cdrking) talagang panget! when i borrowed the supplied cable of t190 and used it with my 22a450, magic!

Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: mmanson on Dec 06, 2008 at 06:11 PM
ano sir nakuha mona ba channel 2 mo? kung di pa and you can wait up to tomorrow post ko dito yung set up ko for channel 2... Ano ba yung antenna mo? yung rabbit? atleast buy a super antenna yung advertised ni ernie baron... alam ko less than 500 pesos lang yun...

hindi pa eh..paki post naman sana sir. malaking tulong talaga. yup rabbit antenna lang. yoko lagyan ng cable to kasi baka hindi na ako lumabas ng kwarto hehehe!
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: raptor on Dec 07, 2008 at 02:12 AM
i was thinking of buying the t220hd over the 22a450 before...pero i ended up buying the a450... and i think i made the right choice.

samsung t series has the cheap tn panel (twisted nematic)...22a450 uses the same panel as the higher model samsung lcdtv...tn panel has a faster response time but viewing angle is restrictive that's why it's commonly used as pc monitor only...panget especially when you view it from below or sa side...my sister has t190 and she bought a tv box for it, hehehe ang labo ng picture whenever na manood ka na nakahiga sa bed...

i use my a450 50% as a pc monitor, sharp po siya, di blurred ...just use the right cable (ferrite core vga gamit ko),  kasi walang kasamang vga cable ito unlike in t190/t220 kaya kapag gumamit ka ng cable na panget (gaya ng nabili ko sa cdrking) talagang panget! when i borrowed the supplied cable of t190 and used it with my 22a450, magic!



i checked out both the T220 and the 22a450 in Glorietta earlier today ... i don't see any difference (in comparing the 2 models) with the picture quality when viewed from different angles (including top and bottom) ... there was degradation in quality when viewed from top or bottom, but not much on the side angles - quality was basically the same for both ... what I observed is that I don't think that the 22a450 have the same panel as the bigger 4-series models - the one that I viewed in Abenson was sitting next to a 32-inch 3-series and 32-inch 4-series, and though the picture quality of the 22a450 is good, it is very noticeable that the bigger 3 and 4-series have more vibrant colors and a lot better viewing angle (including top and bottom) ... this observation was also shared by one of the customers auditioning the tv's .... another thing I can also mention is that although there is a quality degradation on both models when viewed on slightly extreme top or bottom angles, it is still a lot better on those conditions than my almost 2-year old Samsung 940BW 19-inch LCD PC monitor

this leads me to a conclusion that I'm better off with the T220 for my requirements, mainly because of the quality and the freebie (7-inch digital photo frame with 128MB memory and SD slot worth 4,990) if the only other option is the 22a450 ... by the way, they are selling the T220 at PhP 14k in Silicon Valley (cash only) in Park Square.... another thing also is that there is somewhat another advantage on the 22a450, although probably miniscule but may be important for some purist ... the 22a450 has a screen ratio of 16:9 (which is the industry standard nowadays), the T220 has 16:10 (ok by PC standards, but a little bit off the tv standard.

but there's more (parang tv shopping ... hehe) ... and this will probably wet the apetite of those targeting the 22-inch Samsung TV or are looking for a bigger tv 26 or 32-inch but still short of the budget ... there's another model on display at Silicon Valley in Park Square I'd likely choose over the T220 and 22a450 .... this is the Samsung T240HD - it is an HDTV (not HD ready only), with digital tuner, 16:9 ration, 10,000:1 contrast ratio - in summary it has the best features of the 22a450 and T220 combined and it's full HD and the bigger bang is that it has 24-inch screen size ....but wait that's not all (feeling home tv shopping talaga  ;D) - the price is PhP 20k (cash) and if purchased on or before Dec. 31, it comes with a free Samsung S760 digital camera (7.2 MP with 2.4-inch LCD screen, worth PhP 5,990) .... subtracting the amount of the free camera, you basically get a 24-inch full HD tv at less than PhP 15k

in terms of PQ, the T240HD visibly is much better than the T220 and the 22a450
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: jepoi on Dec 07, 2008 at 08:15 AM
But that T240HD is still just a PC monitor, right?

*** edit ***

did a bit of a research and i found out it's actually a hybrid.

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Before we get onto to such delights, however, there's the business of standard definition content to deal with and specifically Freeview image quality (i think this is our standard TV signal, right?). Despite its "digital credentials", anyone who knows anything knows that the Freeview feed isn't of great quality and good TVs use a lot of processing to get regular TV looking passable.

It's this kind of processing that the T240HD lacks and though it puts forward a reasonable performance, we've seen Freeview look better than this. It doesn't do a great job of eliminating pixel crawl and the various digital artefacts are obvious for even an un-trained eye to see(i can see now, peeps compaining that their cable is grainy...  hehe). This doesn't make it unwatchable by any means, but it won't match most dedicated TVs.

Another department that weakens its TV credentials are the viewing angles. Again, they're just about acceptable, but there is a noticeable loss of contrast and some colour shift that's at its worst when viewed from above. Happily, things like the EPG and basic navigation are very good, better than the majority of TV/Monitor hybrids we've seen and though it may sound like the T240HD isn't that a good TV, as a secondary TV for the bedroom or kitchen you could do a lot worse - but also slightly better.

Verdict

It may not be the best TV or monitor around, but as a combination of the two the Samsung T240HD is pretty decent and if its versatility and style suit your needs, there can be little arguing over the price either.

hmm...  and just when i'm almost 100% sold to getting a 22A450...  darn.

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but wait that's not all (feeling home tv shopping talaga  Grin) - the price is PhP 20k (cash) and if purchased on or before Dec. 31, it comes with a free Samsung S760 digital camera (7.2 MP with 2.4-inch LCD screen, worth PhP 5,990) .... subtracting the amount of the free camera, you basically get a 24-inch full HD tv at less than PhP 15k

saang shop 'to, sir?

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in terms of PQ, the T240HD visibly is much better than the T220 and the 22a450

when you compared, what source was playing?
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: raptor on Dec 07, 2008 at 01:35 PM
But that T240HD is still just a PC monitor, right?

*** edit ***

did a bit of a research and i found out it's actually a hybrid.

hmm...  and just when i'm almost 100% sold to getting a 22A450...  darn.

saang shop 'to, sir?

when you compared, what source was playing?


Silicon Valley Park Square 1 .... sa T240HD and T220, PC contents lang ... sa 22a450, dvd
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: aj_alf on Dec 07, 2008 at 05:31 PM
^ At what shop in Festival were you able to purchase it?


at "Gadgets in Style"
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: markmlists on Dec 08, 2008 at 03:15 PM

Silicon Valley Park Square 1 .... sa T240HD and T220, PC contents lang ... sa 22a450, dvd


T240HD
Interesting new choice. Can it accept analog broadcasts kaya?
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: raptor on Dec 08, 2008 at 07:45 PM

T240HD
Interesting new choice. Can it accept analog broadcasts kaya?


Sir, I have a mistake on the model for the HD TV ... yung 20k pala is Samsung 2333HD, it's only 23-inches, but still full HD (1080p) ... I went back yesterday to confirm the model - wala pa daw 240HD sa stock nila ...2333HD however is still a good buy with its features and the 7.2MP Samsung camera freebie
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: winskie on Dec 09, 2008 at 10:47 AM
I was looking at some Samsung LCD TVs yesterday at the SM Appliance Center and I noticed that the vertical viewing angle of the LA22A450 was very bad.  Is it a TN panel? I thought A450 lineup uses SPVA panels.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: stick on Dec 09, 2008 at 02:18 PM
hindi pa eh..paki post naman sana sir. malaking tulong talaga. yup rabbit antenna lang. yoko lagyan ng cable to kasi baka hindi na ako lumabas ng kwarto hehehe!

Sorry for the late reply.. but heres my setting for channel 2... under MENU - CHANNEL... select Area and set to Asia... then got to "Manual Store" - Set "Channel" to C 3 .... "C" is for airial reception and S for cable... 3 is the program no. ... After that go to Search and set to 55 MHz... yan ang setting ko... Channel 2 ang pinaka malinaw sa amin... anyway I hope this helps...

@ raptor..

I think your wrong about the aspect ratio... the 22LA450 has also the 16:10 aspect (1650 x 1080)... Its also perfect for PC use... I use HDMI connection and can even watch at 2 ft distance... no blurring what so ever... baka naman sa cables yung blurring or 480i signals(TV Broadcast) medyo blurred talaga... according to earlier post this panel can handle 1080p well, but I havent tried... I was only able to try 480p & 720p... Its really clear even at 1 ft 720p signals and 3 to 4 ft for 480p signals...

My purpose of getting this panel is because of the tv reception, Connectivity especially HDMI... two component inputs, composite, s-video, PC D-sub... almost all connections available... and lastly it fits my budget perfectly....

But the one that made me think is the Samsung 2333HD... a really nice price for full HD... parang nanghinayang ako bigla!  :(
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: jepoi on Dec 10, 2008 at 01:00 AM

Sir, I have a mistake on the model for the HD TV ... yung 20k pala is Samsung 2333HD, it's only 23-inches, but still full HD (1080p) ... I went back yesterday to confirm the model - wala pa daw 240HD sa stock nila ...2333HD however is still a good buy with its features and the 7.2MP Samsung camera freebie

sounds about right.  naghanap ako kahapon ng 240HD sa SM City North and Trinoma and the lowest i can find was 25k cash.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: mmanson on Dec 10, 2008 at 11:35 AM
Sorry for the late reply.. but heres my setting for channel 2... under MENU - CHANNEL... select Area and set to Asia... then got to "Manual Store" - Set "Channel" to C 3 .... "C" is for airial reception and S for cable... 3 is the program no. ... After that go to Search and set to 55 MHz... yan ang setting ko... Channel 2 ang pinaka malinaw sa amin... anyway I hope this helps...

thanks sir! tried it na but then malbo naman yung reception ng tv sa ch. 2. mukhang hindi ata talaga abot ang ch. 2 sa kwarto ko :( thanks ulit! gawan ko ng paraan sa antenna! :)
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: E-reply on Dec 10, 2008 at 12:04 PM
50 units Samsung LA22a450 at P16500. available on sale this December 15 to 17. ;D
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: jepoi on Dec 17, 2008 at 07:26 AM
50 units Samsung LA22a450 at P16500. available on sale this December 15 to 17. ;D

how much if card, 3 months to pay?
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: jepoi on Dec 20, 2008 at 02:47 AM
Bump...

How much na 'to, mga bossing sellers?  I canvassed for the T240HD, lowest talaga is 24,500.  Hindi kaya ng budget.  Wala naman akong makitang 2333HD.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: E-reply on Dec 20, 2008 at 10:12 AM
how much if card, 3 months to pay?

3 months at P17325.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: alx on Dec 30, 2008 at 12:24 PM
sa mga users nito, ano pinakamaganda setting sa color or better pa calibrate nalng?? ???
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: papelandia on Dec 31, 2008 at 02:23 AM
Best Price for this model Sirs???  FYI, ang mura na price sa Ansons
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: jepoi on Dec 31, 2008 at 03:02 AM
How much s'ya sa Ansons?
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: jackryan on Jan 24, 2009 at 03:03 PM
50 units Samsung LA22a450 at P16500. available on sale this December 15 to 17. ;D

is there anyone else that is still selling this particular unit?
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: sacred cow on Feb 08, 2009 at 10:59 PM
is there anyone else that is still selling this particular unit?

i was wondering the same thing
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: Dowals on Feb 09, 2009 at 09:54 AM
OT: any cheaper alternative for this model? i'm looking for a 22" WS monitor that i can use for my pc, has a TV tuner & AV inputs (for DVD &/or ps2)

TIA
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: zan1731 on Feb 09, 2009 at 12:18 PM
sirs medjo naguluhan lang ako, ano ba talaga contrast ratio niya? 5000:1 or 3000:1?
sa samsung website kasi parang 3000:1
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: zan1731 on Feb 12, 2009 at 01:15 AM
sirs medjo naguluhan lang ako, ano ba talaga contrast ratio niya? 5000:1 or 3000:1?
sa samsung website kasi parang 3000:1
up ko lang po itong katanungan ko :)
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: cHess on Feb 12, 2009 at 09:03 AM
I saw in the sticker, attached in the 22"LCD and it was 5,000 but I am also confused because at different websites meron 3,000 at meron din namang 5,000. ???
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: zan1731 on Feb 12, 2009 at 12:23 PM
it is said sa samsung website na dynamic contrast ratio is 3000:1
how will i know the true contrast ratio? tama ba term ko?
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: zan1731 on Feb 15, 2009 at 01:08 AM
it is said sa samsung website na dynamic contrast ratio is 3000:1
how will i know the true contrast ratio? tama ba term ko?
hello... up ko lang quesiton ko.

additional quesiton na din po.. pwede bang ikabit to sa wall?
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: E-reply on Feb 16, 2009 at 06:08 PM
hello... up ko lang quesiton ko.

additional quesiton na din po.. pwede bang ikabit to sa wall?

Samsung does not have wall bracket for this small lcd tv. But we have bracket available at P2500. Yes, this TV can be wall hanged.
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 17, 2009 at 06:08 AM
I saw in the sticker, attached in the 22"LCD and it was 5,000 but I am also confused because at different websites meron 3,000 at meron din namang 5,000. ???
it is said sa samsung website na dynamic contrast ratio is 3000:1
how will i know the true contrast ratio? tama ba term ko?

can anyone answer this already ???
ako nahihirapan sa mga nagtatanong eh ;D
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: barrister on Feb 17, 2009 at 09:56 AM
can anyone answer this already ???
ako nahihirapan sa mga nagtatanong eh ;D

Matagal ko nang nakita ang question na yan, pero sa tingin ko hindi naman siya masisiyahan sa sagot ko, kaya iniiwasan ko sanang sagutin.

First of all, contrast ratio specs are not based on any agreed standard, so it really doesn't matter what those quoted specs are.  What matters is how it looks like in real-world conditions, regardless of what the manufacturer specs say.

Limiting the issue to the correct manufacturer's spec, I say both specs are correct, except that the 3000:1 figure was Samsung's old measurement.  Samsung just revised its standard of measurement and came up with a new figure of 5000:1, but it's still the same panel with the same actual contrast ratio.  To update the spec and to improve sales, nilagyan ng sticker na may 5000:1 spec.



how will i know the true contrast ratio? tama ba term ko?

Manufacturer's contrast ratio specs are useless because there is no agreed standard of measurement.

To determine the "true" contrast ratio, there must first be an internationally accepted standard of measurement, then the contrast ratio must be measured by an independent body rather than by Samsung itself.  Since that's an impossibility at this time, I wouldn't worry about the contrast ratio if I were you.

To appreciate how useless the manfacturer specs for contrast ratio are, it is essential to first understand the basics about contrast and grayscale.

How is contrast ratio measured?

The most common methods are the Full On/Off method and the ANSI Contrast ratio measurement. 

Full On/Off Contrast measures the ratio of the light output of an all-white image (full on), vs. the light output of an all-black (full off) image. This is the measurement most favored by manufactures as it yields a larger number for the contrast ratio.

ANSI Contrast is measured with a pattern of 16 alternating black and white rectangles - also referred to as the 'checkerboard' test pattern. The average light output from the white rectangles is divided by the average light output of the black rectangles to determine the ANSI contrast ratio.

While ANSI contrast is more accurate, it still cannot tell you the whole story.  That's because you do not watch black and white checkerboards on your screen in real life.  In real world situations, grayscaling is even more important than a full-black and full-white comparison.

Another factor to consider is ambient light.  Measurements taken in a room with ambient lighting will differ from those taken in a dark room.

To give you some idea about how wild those contrast ratio specs really are, consider this:

Did you know that a new movie in a movie house should have a contrast ratio of about 500:1?  If so, then it is clear that a contrast ratio of 10,000:1 or more on an LCD or plasma TV is a fantastic and ludicrous claim. 

To make all of this a little more concrete, let's enumerate some specimen contrast ratios. If you're reading these words, the contrast ratio of the page before you is about 80:1. If you're looking at them on your monitor, the ratio is closer to 50:1. If you go to the movies and watch a good, clean print, the ratio (given the right scene) might be 500:1. http://www.da-lite.com/education/angles_of_view.php?action=details&issueid=56

The audio industry used to do this with their PMPO specs.  This time, it's the video industry that loves to throw specs around.




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References:

The Contrast Ratio Game
http://www.practical-home-theater-guide.com/contrast-ratio.html



LCD Specs: Useless?
Tested contrast ratios rarely conform to vendors' specs.

http://pcworld.about.com/magazine/2106p024id110483.htm 
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: jackryan on Feb 17, 2009 at 10:06 AM
hello... up ko lang quesiton ko.

additional quesiton na din po.. pwede bang ikabit to sa wall?

In my case, I got 3 units of this particular model installed in two locations separately and each of them are mounted against the wall via Omi Mount CL 50 / 75 wall brackets that allows me to conveniently move it sideways or at an angle up-down.  ::)
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 17, 2009 at 10:12 AM
to all confused individual, why not checkout the units yourself along with other brands.
maybe, just maybe you might end up choosing another brand or model  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: jackryan on Feb 17, 2009 at 11:10 AM
In my case, I got 3 units of this particular model installed in two locations separately and each of them are mounted against the wall via Omi Mount CL 50 / 75 wall brackets that allows me to conveniently move it sideways or at an angle up-down.  ::)

Like this...

(http://www.surroundsolutions.com/contactcommerce/images/items/75_100_CL_Black_md.jpg)

(http://www.jaxtreasurechest.com/catalog/75-100CL.jpg)
Title: Re: Samsung 22" A450 Series 4 LCD TV
Post by: zan1731 on Feb 17, 2009 at 05:45 PM
wow... very informative.. thank you so much for this :)
thanks also ninjababez :D