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Title: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: anya618 on Dec 20, 2008 at 10:39 AM
are collector's edition blu ray discs with bd live and digital copy worth it? or its better to get the standalone bd disc movie?
correct me if im wrong, from what i know there are 3 editions?
- standalone bd movie
- standalone bd movie with bd live
- standalone bd movie with bd live and digital copy
Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: pchin on Dec 20, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Depending on the particular movies, not all movies have two editions, only certain movies have two editions (e.g. Wall-E: one withoutout Digital Copy & one with Digital Copy).

Also some movies come together with the Digital Copy, meaning there's only one edition (e.g. The Nightmare Before Christmas + Digital Copy)

BD live is optional regardless if the movie comes with DC. For me, whenever there's another edition that comes w/out the DC...I'll get that for sure. Not only it's cheaper, I have no use of the DC. Probably it's useful for those having laptops & travel a lot for convenience purpose.
Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: jojitv on Dec 21, 2008 at 08:13 AM
I have several BDs w/ digital copies and I haven't even tried any of them :)
Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: anya618 on Dec 21, 2008 at 08:56 AM
there is a price difference of around $10-$15 between the standalone and the one with the extras. after reading the reviews of people buying the ones with digital copy, i think its better to get the standalone if you just want to watch the movie itself
Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: imperialcog on Dec 29, 2008 at 10:20 AM
The digital copy only works if you have an American Itunes account. That's convenient.. ugh. :)
Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: jojitv on Dec 29, 2008 at 10:22 AM
The digital copy only works if you have an American Itunes account. That's convenient.. ugh. :)

Crap! At least now I know not to buy those.
Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: anya618 on Dec 29, 2008 at 05:35 PM
ive also read there is an expiry until when you can use the digital copy? is this true?
Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: imperialcog on Dec 29, 2008 at 05:37 PM
Crap! At least now I know not to buy those.

I know, right! :)

Do they actually sell BDs without Digital Copies? For example with the Dark Knight BDs, do they have editions without digital copies? Coz everywhere I see on the internet it always includes the digital copy versions. Do we have a choice? :)


Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: imperialcog on Dec 29, 2008 at 05:38 PM
ive also read there is an expiry until when you can use the digital copy? is this true?

that's true.. I have a digital copy of Wanted that expires in two days! haha.
Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: anya618 on Dec 29, 2008 at 05:39 PM
that's true.. I have a digital copy of Wanted that expires in two days! haha.

so even if you have an american itunes account and ur digital copy is expired, its useless? ;D
Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: jojitv on Dec 30, 2008 at 01:43 PM
Just tried the digital copy of matrix, you need to have itunes for you to download it :(
Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: imperialcog on Dec 30, 2008 at 11:06 PM
so even if you have an american itunes account and ur digital copy is expired, its useless? ;D

I'm afraid so.. sucks noh? :)

But I guess for those people who are HD all the way, these digital copies are nothing to them, quality-wise. :)
Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: pchin on Dec 31, 2008 at 01:50 AM
So far I notice those Digital Copy discs from Fox studio offer two options to transfer the movie to PC i.e. tru iTunes or Window Media Player (WMP).

There's no mention of expiry date though. How do we know when is the expiry? Probbaly this is not applicable to transfer done to WMP? Geez....will try to give it a try later.  ;D

*Assuming there's no expiry, it still doesn't change my opinion that DC is "useless" (for me). :P

Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: anya618 on Dec 31, 2008 at 09:05 AM
assuming you have the bluray/dvd copy, why would you need to watch the digital copy thru WMP when you can watch it on ur dvd/blu ray player? and assuming youve transfered it to WMP, is there a limit on how many times you could view the said transfer if its not yet expired?
Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: imperialcog on Dec 31, 2008 at 09:36 AM
So far I notice those Digital Copy discs from Fox studio offer two option to transfer the movie to PC i.e. tru iTunes or Window Media Player (WMP).

There's no mention of expiry date though. How do we know when is the expiry? Probbaly this is not applicable to transfer done to WMP? Geez....will try to give it a try later.  ;D

*Assuming there's no expiry, it still doesn't change my opinion that DC is "useless" (for me). :P



For the Wanted BD, the expiry date of the digital copy was written down on the sticker on the front cover. :)
Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: anya618 on Dec 31, 2008 at 09:47 AM
how long is the expiry? from date of purchase?
Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: chuck427 on Jan 01, 2009 at 10:38 AM
Do people actually use the digital copy? $10-$15 is a big amount especially when converted to philippine peso..lets hope that they give us an option, or if they do force adding it, prices dont go up...
Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: pchin on Jan 01, 2009 at 11:26 AM
assuming you have the bluray/dvd copy, why would you need to watch the digital copy thru WMP when you can watch it on ur dvd/blu ray player?

Probably for people who own laptop & frequently on the move/traveling, etc..

In short, I think it's just a total BS gimmick. :-[
Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: chuck427 on Jan 01, 2009 at 02:08 PM
agreed!!! not only is is a BS gimmick..its a rob for $15...but again, people in the states may like this...well, lets hope this goes away..hehhe
Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: anya618 on Jan 01, 2009 at 03:43 PM
some titles have a digital copy for an additional $1 to $5
Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: stud on Jan 01, 2009 at 06:46 PM
i have many bd with digital copy hoping that i could transfer them to my ipod touch. But to my dismay, all of it has invalid redeem code. Is it really for USA account only?

Been trying to email their respective customer support but till not haven't gotten any reply.
Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: chuck427 on Jan 07, 2009 at 11:03 AM
Basing on most people's comments, i guess we do need a USA account..

regarding the expiry date..what if we purchased an old stock of a BD copy movie..like for example a copy of Wanted which its digital copy had already expired..would we get a refund or something? or a replacement? why would they have an expiry date anyway..sheeesh
Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: animated on Feb 01, 2009 at 11:06 AM
I bought a couple of BDs with Digital copies. From what I understand, the validation code is what expires, not the digital copy. Once you've redeemed the code, it should be yours indefinitely (I hope). Also note that the Digital copy will be tagged with your iTunes account info.

WALL•E fine print:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/animated_dvd/WALL-Efineprint.jpg)

The Dark Knight Digital Copy in iTunes:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/animated_dvd/TheDarkKnight.png)

There is a way to create a US Itunes Store account without a credit card. I can't find the link to the method I used (the one that gives you free songs) but I've found another link that involves getting free apps from the App Store: http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-get-a-Free-Itunes-Account-No-Credit-Card-N/ (http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-get-a-Free-Itunes-Account-No-Credit-Card-N/)

So far I have The Dark Knight, Jumper, WALL•E and Rambo digital copies backed up on my external HDD. I've also tried uploading The Dark Knight to my iPhone. It's neat but drains the battery hard. :P

Hope this helps those with Digital Copies!
Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: imperialcog on Feb 03, 2009 at 01:26 PM
Wow thanks for the tip! I will try it later with my digital copies. :)

So, we can export the videos out of itunes and into an external HD? :)
Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: animated on Feb 03, 2009 at 06:46 PM
So, we can export the videos out of itunes and into an external HD? :)

Yup. You should be able to drag the file from iTunes to your external HDD or you can find the file in you iTunes Music folder and copy it from there. You can remove it from the iTunes library if you want to save on hard drive space but take note that it'll only play if it's in your iTunes library (as far as I can tell). Adding them back to the iTunes Library should be simple enough. I think you just need to be logged in to your iTunes account while doing so so it can verify your machine. :)
Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: chuck427 on Feb 05, 2009 at 09:35 AM
I bought a couple of BDs with Digital copies. From what I understand, the validation code is what expires, not the digital copy. Once you've redeemed the code, it should be yours indefinitely (I hope). Also note that the Digital copy will be tagged with your iTunes account info.

Sir, if the validation code expires, then the digital copy is useless right? Is there anyway to extend these expiry date?
Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: animated on Feb 05, 2009 at 02:01 PM
Sir, if the validation code expires, then the digital copy is useless right? Is there anyway to extend these expiry date?

Looks like it, bro. :( When I first read about the expiry dates, I scrambled to redeem them as soon as possible. Kinda odd that they have fixed expirations. They don't even have the expiry dates written outside of the box as far as I know. Apparently they do, according to sir imperialcog.

You can try e-mailing the customer service of the studio to get a new code. But not sure what good that will do if they know that you live in the Philippines.  :( Then again, there's no harm in trying! ;)
Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: chuck427 on Feb 05, 2009 at 02:51 PM
Looks like it, bro. :( When I first read about the expiry dates, I scrambled to redeem them as soon as possible. Kinda odd that they have fixed expirations. They don't even have the expiry dates written outside of the box as far as I know. Apparently they do, according to sir imperialcog.

You can try e-mailing the customer service of the studio to get a new code. But not sure what good that will do if they know that you live in the Philippines.  :( Then again, there's no harm in trying! ;)


Thanks Bro...well, we can always use these as decoration, hahahahahahahaah
Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: -sniper- on Feb 05, 2009 at 02:57 PM
yes, the code does expire...mine did.  >:(

i think even if it does not expire, i would not have been able to redeem it. it is region-locked. i recently bought an R1 DVD (my apologies...i know this is an HD thread. sorry kung naligaw, same topic kasi eh  ;D) with digital copy and the insert states that: "restrictions and limitations apply. Must reside in the U.S. or Canada..."

i don't know if this is the same case with bds.

Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: RadicalDude on Feb 05, 2009 at 06:12 PM
I'm an iPod user so for me, BD's with digital copies are worth it.

Currently I have digital copies of Constantine, The Incredible Hulk, The Dark Knight, Wall-E, Journey To The Center Of the Earth, Nightmare Before Christmas, Speed Racer and Jumper, all redeemed from iTunes (I have a US account even though I'm Philippine based...  ;D)
Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: stud on Feb 10, 2009 at 07:44 PM
How did you do that? Please help. I have a lot of BD with digital copy but sad to say all were saved in pc only. I can not transfer them to my ipod touch.
Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: animated on Feb 11, 2009 at 10:35 AM
How did you do that? Please help. I have a lot of BD with digital copy but sad to say all were saved in pc only. I can not transfer them to my ipod touch.

What method did you use to extract the digital copy? I know there are 2 formats in each digital copy disc, one Windows Media format and a protected M4V compatible with iTunes and iPods. To upload them to your iPod touch, you need to get the M4V and not the Windows Media format. Redeem the code using a US iTunes store account. I've placed a link on how to create a US iTunes account in my post here (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=89910.msg957939#msg957939).

There might be a caveat though, not sure if you can redeem the code once you've already done so using the Windows Media format.

Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: stud on Feb 11, 2009 at 05:09 PM
thank you for replying.

I don't have a US account yet. Maybe that is why i can not transfer it to iturnes. I will try your link that you gave.
Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: Verbl Kint on Mar 05, 2011 at 09:51 PM
Rebooting this thread since there are some posts asking questions regarding digital copies.
Title: Re: collector's edition + bd live & digital copy - are they worth it?
Post by: HD-SL on Nov 06, 2011 at 11:55 PM
if it's HD then i'm not so interested in watching movies on small screen like cellphones. para sa akin nawawala yung meaning ng high definition kung maliit yung viewing screen. i want the immersive video and audio if its a good movie so madami ako digital copies that i have not bothered with