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Home Theater => Sources => HTPCs => Topic started by: Verbl Kint on Mar 05, 2009 at 03:27 PM
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I am curious as to what is the best build possible for an ultra-low power HTPC on a budget.
It should be able to do 1080p playback and consume less than 90w while on 60% system load. It would also be best if the components can easily be sourced within Metro Manila.
The reason I ask is to build a rig that can rival an NMT in Meralco frugality.
Any suggestions?
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INTEL Dual-Core Atom 330 945GC (ITX/ATX) 3870
kingston 2gb ddr2 800 ram 1050
seagate 500gb hd 2950
total 7870
case options
case#1 (will not look as sleek as the astone but have better reading/burning performance for the dvdrw)
Zeal mini-ITX w/ 180w PSU 1300
LG dvdrw x22 1250
total 10420
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc70/tzilon/Zeal_Ion.jpg)
case#2 (will look better.. slim htpc look but mas maganda performance ng desktop dvdrw)
Astone Enforcer Mini slim ITX w/ 150 psu 1400
samsung L632 slim dvdrw (laptop dvdrw) 1800
total 11070
(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk66/ryannchong/enforcermini.jpg)
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INTEL Dual-Core Atom 330 945GC (ITX/ATX) 3870
kasali na ba ang motherboard dito? ano mga I/O ports niya for video and audio? is a video card needed?
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that is price for chip and board napo.. built in video nadin yun lang nga limited expansion niya..
walang pci/pcie
sa us.. meron na itx mobos that you can put c2d procs with pcie/pci but para magamit yung pcie/pci option.. dapat zeal yung case..
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(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk66/ryannchong/falls2bulk.jpg)
ito po itsura..
correction.. meron pala ito pcie
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kaya na ba yun 150-180 w na ps?
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yup.. actually yung 150 watts kayang kaya kahit pa.. yung c2d..
meron kasi ako nakitang mga itx mobos na naka c2d E8400 1tb hd...
atom po super matipid yan..
yung dual core na atom only 8watts at maximum..
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/D945GCLF2_atom_330/ <-- yan po review
check the conclusion at the last page..
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Can someone please post link(s) that proves undoubtedly that a Dual Core Atom can play high bitrate 1080p files flawlessly; not few-minute samples but full length movies?
If someone has tried Dual Core Atom 1080p playback without any hiccup during the entire length, could you please post the technical info of the file?
Can I stress test anyone's Dual Core Atom for a few hours when I visit the Philippines in April? ;D
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Of course the Little Falls 2 (dual core Atom ) can play mkvs provided that they are below the 20 MBps bitrate and using the ever efficient Coreavc codec. Fernandomontalban has successfully tested this type of rig as a full pledged HTPC connected to a SDTV. He posted his results somewhere on the HTPC thread. ;)
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Of course the Little Falls 2 (dual core Atom ) can play mkvs provided that they are below the 20 MBps bitrate and using the ever efficient Coreavc codec. Fernandomontalban has successfully tested this type of rig as a full pledged HTPC connected to a SDTV. He posted his results somewhere on the HTPC thread. ;)
If that is the technical requirement, then Dual Core Atom will play ALL mkvs available.
But is Fernando Montalban the only proof in this site? Been reading "she loves me, she loves me not" posts from various sites about the 1080p capabilities of the Dual Core Atom. Mala "WDTV Syndrome".
I've got a very wide selection of 1080ps that can prove the limits (or lack of it) of this baby. Anybody wants to put his Dual Core Atom to actual tests? I can give you something nice in return.
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ano po common bitrate ng MKV files -- 720p at 1080p?
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The above rig should come up to about 50 to 55w at 60% load.
Palitan na rin ng green power/series components (HDD, memory, etc) and you can even see a further reduction (as much as 10w).
Meron na ba tong HDMI ports? Tingin ko puwede pa to dagdagan ng TV Tuner for DVR use.
Ang pinaka importante lang talaga is that it should be able to play 1080p videos flawlessly.
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ano po common bitrate ng MKV files -- 720p at 1080p?
difficult to say what the common numbers are but most 720ps ripped from high def disks should be covered within 4-8Mbps range, lower than that for high def TV series compressed from TV recording. hence any system with P4 or equivalent can play 720p. highest Ive watched is about 18.5Mbps (filesize is about 20GB） thus the 20Mbps ceiling covers everything I've seen so far. because X.264 is highly efficient in terms of compression, I think it's unlikely to find an mkv exceeding 20Mbps, and even if possible, is a waste of memory.
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I've got a very wide selection of 1080ps that can prove the limits (or lack of it) of this baby. Anybody wants to put his Dual Core Atom to actual tests? I can give you something nice in return.
abangan ko result ng testing. if the dual-core atom can prove its capability, then i would join the bandwagon. ;D
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wala ako solid proof.. but according sa tpc itx users kaya eh..
actually.. balak ko din nga magbuo ng isang budget htpc for our family room... kaya naghahanap ako..
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I think I have a spare slim HD DVD / DVDRW combo drive lying around, which might prove quite useful for this rig.
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Here's an alternative we can use:
Intel DG45FC mini-ITX P6000 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=2529798)
- Supports Intel Core 2 Duo, upto 1333Mhz FSB
- Intel G45 (ICH10) Chipset
- HDMI and DVI output
- 2 x DDR2 667/800 RAM (4GB max)
- Intel GMA X4500HD graphics chip upto 256MB
- Intel High Definition Audio (8 channels)
- 1 x SPDIF
- 1 x GBLAN
- 6 x USB 2.0 ports
- 4 x SATA 3.0 Gb/s ports
- 1 x eSATA port
- 1 x PCI-E 1x slot
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wow maganda yan.. kayalang wala sa pilipinas.. magkano po yan?
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Here's an alternative we can use:
Intel DG45FC mini-ITX P6000 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=2529798)
- Supports Intel Core 2 Duo, upto 1333Mhz FSB
- Intel G45 (ICH10) Chipset
- HDMI and DVI output
- 2 x DDR2 667/800 RAM (4GB max)
- Intel GMA X4500HD graphics chip upto 256MB
- Intel High Definition Audio (8 channels)
- 1 x SPDIF
- 1 x GBLAN
- 6 x USB 2.0 ports
- 4 x SATA 3.0 Gb/s ports
- 1 x eSATA port
- 1 x PCI-E 1x slot
@P6,000 this costs almost double than the Emaxx, Gigabyte, or Asus AMD780G boards. supported CPU does not include the Intel Atom:
http://processormatch.intel.com/CompDB/SearchResult.aspx?Boardname=DG45FC (http://processormatch.intel.com/CompDB/SearchResult.aspx?Boardname=DG45FC)
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The Intel Atom based ITX motherboard is a suspect on HD audio ... it seems that there is no HDMI and digital sudio out (coax or fiber optic)
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@P6,000 this costs almost double than the Emaxx, Gigabyte, or Asus AMD780G boards. supported CPU does not include the Intel Atom:
http://processormatch.intel.com/CompDB/SearchResult.aspx?Boardname=DG45FC (http://processormatch.intel.com/CompDB/SearchResult.aspx?Boardname=DG45FC)
This board is not for the Atom, it's actually for the Core2Duo.
Intel DG45FC mini-ITX 6000
Intel Pentium (dual core 45nm) E5200 3295
kingston 2gb ddr2 800 ram 1050
seagate 500gb hd 2950
Zeal mini-ITX w/ 180w PSU 1300
LG dvdrw x22 1250
Total is P15,845. Pasok pa rin sa budget.
Around 85w to 89w at 60% load, pero since mas powerful siya sa Atom, at may onboard video, it can possibly play .mkv's on 35% to 50% load, which would put it at around 60w to 70w.
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ang problema lang po.. is.. hindi siya available sa pilipinas.. kung hindi malakas nga sana yan..
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eto kaya magandang abangan? under 18k kaya ito? considering Acer X1200 SFF is P17,880.
Asus EEE Box 206 with HDMI and ATI 3450HD (256MB)
http://www.engadget.com/photos/hdmi-equipped-asus-eee-box-206-eyes-on/ (http://www.engadget.com/photos/hdmi-equipped-asus-eee-box-206-eyes-on/)
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ang problema lang po.. is.. hindi siya available sa pilipinas.. kung hindi malakas nga sana yan..
From my original post about the Intel DG45FC mini-ITX (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=2529798):
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=2529798
P6,000 ang presyo.
(http://resources.mini-box.com/online/MBD-I-DG45FC/moreimages/image1.jpg)
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ic.. meron na pala dito.. maganda nga yan.. 4500
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(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk66/ryannchong/falls2bulk.jpg)
ito po itsura..
correction.. meron pala ito pcie
PCI slot lang meron yung D945GCLF2, not PCIE
Can someone please post link(s) that proves undoubtedly that a Dual Core Atom can play high bitrate 1080p files flawlessly; not few-minute samples but full length movies?
If someone has tried Dual Core Atom 1080p playback without any hiccup during the entire length, could you please post the technical info of the file?
I'm not sure how high is high but it is more than capable of playing 1080p.
For me, it plays the videos flawlessly. Then again, I'm not a videophile and may not notice minor faults during video playback. If you want, you can PM me details of what type of testing you want to see and of course how to get the data you want.
The Intel Atom based ITX motherboard is a suspect on HD audio ... it seems that there is no HDMI and digital sudio out (coax or fiber optic)
Unfortunately, this is true :( . My setup is connected by VGA cable towards the HDTV and for audio, a 3.5mm headphone jack to aux input on my HT only.
Here's an alternative we can use:
Intel DG45FC mini-ITX P6000 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=2529798)
- Supports Intel Core 2 Duo, upto 1333Mhz FSB
- Intel G45 (ICH10) Chipset
- HDMI and DVI output
- 2 x DDR2 667/800 RAM (4GB max)
- Intel GMA X4500HD graphics chip upto 256MB
- Intel High Definition Audio (8 channels)
- 1 x SPDIF
- 1 x GBLAN
- 6 x USB 2.0 ports
- 4 x SATA 3.0 Gb/s ports
- 1 x eSATA port
- 1 x PCI-E 1x slot
The thing is, I've read bad reviews about this board. It has something to do with heat issues with the NB and the entire overall build quality. Not to mention the price.
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By the way... I saw this available locally from another forum and I think it is within your requirements, bundle price at 15k+. All you need is an hd (add sa total price, under 18k pa rin I think). For me, this is a good buy; price, performance and ultimately size wise since mini-itx. I have the same casing, it looks great on my TV rack, very small and stylish. Not sure about power consumption though, can someone look into it? And I've heard good reviews about the 780G chipset with on board HD3200 graphics used for HTPCs.
PROC: AMD LE-1640 2.7GHz 45WATTS
BOARD: J&W 780G-SP128MB
http://www.jwele.com/motherboard_detail.php?419#_spec
- Integrated ATI Radeon™ HD 3200 Graphics
- DirectX® 10 3D graphics, Vista™ Aero Ready
- AM3 ready
- Supports AMD® Phenom™ Quad-Core Processors (65W max. is strongly recommended)
- Built-in 128 MB Local Frame Buffer (Side-port memory)
- Supports ATI Avivo™ HD technology and built-in Universal Video Decoder (UVD) which leverages CPU consumption when play HD movie, hence power-saving
- Designed with 100% high quality solid capacitors and components to ensure high performance and great longevity
- One PCI-Express slot for expansion
- Two DDR2 SO-DIMM slots for extensible upgrade
- 7.1+2 Channel High-Performance HDA Codec with Content Protection
HSF: 1U CPU cooler (LOW PROFILE)
MEMORY: 2GB Team Elite DDR2 667
CASING: APEX Casing w/ 300W PSU
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Hi Fernando Montalban. Are you based in Metro Manila? Which area? Thanks.
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i read from another forum that Emaxx AMD780G-PRO is just a re-branded J&W 780G. i downloaded the J&W manual and it is indeed the same with Emaxx.
J&W 780G board:
(http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww356/temp_album_photo/Temp1/JW-RS780UVD-AM2.jpg)
Emaxx 780G board:
(http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww356/temp_album_photo/Temp1/Emaxx.jpg)
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i read from another forum that Emaxx AMD780G-PRO is just a re-branded J&W 780G. i downloaded the J&W manual and it is indeed the same with Emaxx.
J&W 780G board:
(http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww356/temp_album_photo/Temp1/JW-RS780UVD-AM2.jpg)
Emaxx 780G board:
(http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww356/temp_album_photo/Temp1/Emaxx.jpg)
These boards are another alternative.
Although, The J&W 780G that I posted earlier has a different Rear I/O with spdif in/out and esata and ultimately smaller, ITX board. These J&W and emaxx boards are MATX boards, it is bigger than ITX. Same chipset and on board graphics though. The feature set of the J&W I posted is better, I think.
Then again, the ITX J&W board is only an option when you want to build a really small HTPC. There are a lot of matx boards that are cheaper and have almost the same features, just like what red_one posted.
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^mATX board nga pala un. gamit ko ung Emaxx AMD780G-PRO-128. ;D
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iCute QS02-BB Slim Casing available:
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=93906.0 (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=93906.0)
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Does anyone have an idea on the Dual-core Atom's power consumption?
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Does anyone have an idea on the Dual-core Atom's power consumption?
Not sure on the Dual-Core Atom's power consumption exactly, but the motherboard with a Dual-Core Atom, the D945GCLF2 or Little Falls 2 has a power consumption of, at idle, 41 watts, and at load, 44.2 according to a review dated May 12, 2009 from Anandtech.
Sad to say, luma na and inefficient yung chipset ng Little Falls 2
http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3562&p=6 (http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3562&p=6)
If you are going to build a very small and low power HTPC, and you are willing to wait and have the budget, I suggest go for the Zotac ION ITX.
http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3562&p=2 (http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3562&p=2)
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Not sure on the Dual-Core Atom's power consumption exactly, but the motherboard with a Dual-Core Atom, the D945GCLF2 or Little Falls 2 has a power consumption of, at idle, 41 watts, and at load, 44.2 according to a review dated May 12, 2009 from Anandtech.
Sad to say, luma na and inefficient yung chipset ng Little Falls 2
http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3562&p=6 (http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3562&p=6)
If you are going to build a very small and low power HTPC, and you are willing to wait and have the budget, I suggest go for the Zotac ION ITX.
http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3562&p=2 (http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3562&p=2)
I hope they come out with power consumption benchmarks real soon.
I also hope that the upcoming SkyCable HD box (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=96448.0) is an actual DVR that can be networked.
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Guys, pasali sa thread. hehehe.
I'm planning to build din kz HTPC instead of buying Popcorn Hour (10K+) / WDTV(5k+).
What triggers me to build this is - when I tried to test my sis laptop CQ40 in our LG Plasma.
Quality is really good(for me), and because my HTIB can only play divx.
So currently, e2 ung plan ko, pero wala pa ung Case/PSU.
As this is a there for low power HTPC,
Help me naman po kung ilang PSU kaya dapat dito?
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P3300 Gigabyte MA69GM-S2H AMD690/HDMI
P3400 Athlon 64 X2 7750 (2.7G) 3mb DC
P1600 Corsair 2x 1GB
P2900 HD SATA 250 GB
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P11200 total
Thanks in advance!
Cheers,
Ivan
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@krypton125: a true-rated 250-300W PSU is enough for your setup. go with 500W PSU if you have budget. cheapest is HEC Raptor R500 for ~P2,300.
refer to the list on PSU 101 >> http://www.tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=182400&page=1 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=182400&page=1)
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Ano po ung cons pag generic na PSU lang binili ko (tipid mode)?
Question din po sa iCute QS02-BB, interactive din po ba ung LCD ng case na to?
Ano po LCD nia?
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P2900 HD SATA 250 GB
@ivan, konti lang difference mag 500gb or 640gb ka na
the i-cute case is a good looking htpc case, but i chose a tower because of space & heat issues. suggest ko sana antec 300 case, frustration ko eh ;D
(http://www.maximumpc.com/files/u22694/Antec-300-beauty.jpg)
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Ano po ung cons pag generic na PSU lang binili ko (tipid mode)?
Question din po sa iCute QS02-BB, interactive din po ba ung LCD ng case na to?
Ano po LCD nia?
suggest you save up for a good psu, because in the long run, sa daming upgrade options ngayun, you'll end up replacing it.
A generic 500W psu is sufficient enough for your planned setup. although I never tested the full capacity of mine. I upgraded to a HEC winpower 550w
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@ivan, konti lang difference mag 500gb or 640gb ka na
Yung 500Gb ko na Seagate 7200.12 is only P2,800 at PC_Reform in Makati. Wala na yung bugs of the 7200.11 series, at mas mura pa! ;D
Ganda rin yung iCute na mesh casing, para sa kapos sa budget... Available rin kay PC_Reform. See details below:
(http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss109/girlie318/Casing-Icute/icuteS9015g01.jpg)
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=3577705
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ang laki ng case fan, panalo :)
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Yung 500Gb ko na Seagate 7200.12 is only P2,800 at PC_Reform in Makati. Wala na yung bugs of the 7200.11 series, at mas mura pa! ;D
Ganda rin yung iCute na mesh casing, para sa kapos sa budget... Available rin kay PC_Reform. See details below:
wow! ang mura naman ng HD kay PC_Reform. legal distributor din ba cia? hehehe.
thanks sa mga advice!
na try nio na rin bang mag run PS2 emulator sa HTPC nio? hehehe.
ang hirap bumili ng walang pera! ^_^
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na try nio na rin bang mag run PS2 emulator sa HTPC nio? hehehe.
ang hirap bumili ng walang pera! ^_^
ako na try ko na... ok sya sa games na hindi graphics intensive... My HTPC is a 780G chipset with only an internal gpu... pero mas ok syempre kung may external gpu ka....
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@stick
pano? ;D
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ako na try ko na... ok sya sa games na hindi graphics intensive... My HTPC is a 780G chipset with only an internal gpu... pero mas ok syempre kung may external gpu ka....
Anong game Naruto? ^_^
PSCX2 ba gamit mo?
@stick
pano? ;D
@Dowals - interested ka rin? hehehe.
nalilito na ko kung ano bibilhin ko...
mini-ITX or microATX na board. hehehe.
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I have tried playing FFX at 30 to 40 fps... played the game upto the end.... using PCSX2.... GT4 at 11 fps... hehe... super bagal... needs a better GPU.... FFX-2 at 24fps... pwedeng pagtyagaan... tekken 5 at 15fps... slow motion ka during battles.... ;D
just follow the guide and tutorials at http://www.pcsx2.net/
FFX is one of the best games in PS2, you'll love it guys.... havent tried naruto but i think it would run at decent fps...
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from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCSX2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCSX2)
The PS2 has several processing units including a MIPS R5900 chip, MIPS R3000A chip, two custom vector units, and graphics chip (Graphics Synthesizer). With the exception of the MIPS R5900 (clocked at 294.912 MHz) and the MIPS R3000A (clocked at 36.864 MHz, selectable to 33.8688 MHz for PlayStation (1) emulation), all other chips run at the bus speed of 147 MHz.
There are several reasons which make emulation of the PS2 on a PC extremely difficult. Architectural differences between an x86-based PC and the PS2 are substantial; emulating multiple chips running in parallel on a single-core processor is quite complex. Taking advantage of dual core processors on PCs is even harder due to the tight synchronization between the PS2 chips.
Recommended Spec for PCSX2:
* Windows XP/Vista or Linux 32bit/64bit
* CPU: Core 2 Duo 3.2GHz
* GPU: GeForce 8600 GT or better
* 1GB RAM (2GB if using Windows Vista)
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Yes, its quite difficult for the system.... when playing FFX @ 30~40fps CPU is @ 90~100% usage... myCPU is an Athlon 64 X2 5000 (2.6G)... really hard for the CPU when playing long hours, torture for the CPU.... you also need a good cooling since the CPU will really get hot.... ;D
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^Gaming PC na talaga ang need dyan.
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Or dedicated gaming console. ;D
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I bought mine last saturday for about 17K+.
MOBO: J&W minix 780G
Procie: AMD 5050e
Case: Silverstone SG05
Memory: 2 x 2GB DDR2 800 Transcend SODIMM.
I did not include Hard Disk since I have a spare 160GB.
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@cool
how much did that setup cost you? may psu na yung casing mo?
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yes sir meron na po. 300W 80+ certified ang kasama sa SG05. Total cost around 17K+ without the harddrive. I was aiming on small itx case before like Apex or Minix Lx-01 kasi yung Sg-05 pede lagyan ng normal pcie video card para kung maisipan ko mag games in the future :)
@kool
how much did that setup cost you? may psu na yung casing mo?
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sasamantalahin ko na... for reference na din
breakdown ng cost per part & where did you get them... kung ok lang naman :)
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J&W - 6K
AMD: 3.5K
SG05 - 6.2K
Memory: 2.2K
sa tipidpc ko lahat nakita with different vendors.
sasamantalahin ko na... for reference na din
breakdown ng cost per part & where did you get them... kung ok lang naman :)
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thanks cool :)
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you're welcome sir :)
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Kay tamis ng "OO"!
Francis, siguraduhin mo lang na kayang-kaya ng CPU lahat ng bangkala ne. Mabigat ang kalaban. Might as well maximize the budget for the AMD chip itself. Additional 1K might give you a lot more computing power beyond that price.
Holy box!!! Napaka-cute ng casing mo pero kumasya yung 9" card!
Exciting!
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Yes sir napa OO ko din kasi Father's Day kaya yun na lang daw gift nya sa akin kahit ako lahat gumastos hehehe.
Some 1080p files played well but when I tried the Matrix , ayun na bumigay.I was using Klite codec then. Good thing I asked J&W tech support and gave me the right codec. Lo and behold, lahat ng Matrix nag play flawlessly ika nga :D Then I checked CPU usage hindi tumataas ng 70%.
Planning to buy cpu cooler pero tolerable pa naman yung heat and noise since hindi masyado mainit yung system and cpu ko, lalo na yung NB. Very content talaga for the very cute rig ;D
Kay tamis ng "OO"!
Francis, siguraduhin mo lang na kayang-kaya ng CPU lahat ng bangkala ne. Mabigat ang kalaban. Might as well maximize the budget for the AMD chip itself. Additional 1K might give you a lot more computing power beyond that price.
Holy box!!! Napaka-cute ng casing mo pero kumasya yung 9" card!
Exciting!
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What codec and player are you using? Pede ipadala by email yung ginagamit ko if you want to try.
Hmm. Before that CPU cooler, ligawan mo ulit si Chief-Of-STOP ;D for a graphics card. Around 5K for the HD4770..Hehehe.. Ask Dowals.
Yes sir napa OO ko din kasi Father's Day kaya yun na lang daw gift nya sa akin kahit ako lahat gumastos hehehe.
Some 1080p files played well but when I tried the Matrix , ayun na bumigay.I was using Klite codec then. Good thing I asked J&W tech support and gave me the right codec. Lo and behold, lahat ng Matrix nag play flawlessly ika nga :D Then I checked CPU usage hindi tumataas ng 70%.
Planning to buy cpu cooler pero tolerable pa naman yung heat and noise since hindi masyado mainit yung system and cpu ko, lalo na yung NB. Very content talaga for the very cute rig ;D
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What codec and player are you using? Pede ipadala by email yung ginagamit ko if you want to try.
Hmm. Before that CPU cooler, ligawan mo ulit si Chief-Of-STOP ;D for a graphics card. Around 5K for the HD4770..Hehehe.. Ask Dowals.
Hahaha. Ako na lang didiskarte kay general since andun na yung case, kahit patago ko na lang ilagay Graphic card ;D. Pero hindi pa siguro muna sa ngayon since di pa naman ako talaga masyado nahihilig sa games. More on movies pa din.
I am using MPC and Finalcodecs2009. sige sir pa pasend na lang sa email ko yung ginagamit nyong codec. Thanks.
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Are the Ion's in? Any benchmarks on power consumption?
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I'd like to revive this thread to see what's new out there.
Has anyone tried the new Pineview Atoms? What's the power consumption like?
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If you consider the below as an HTPC, then this will meet your requirements for playing 1080p and your price point also. Have an HDMI and optical audio out.
http://www.amazon.com/Zotac-MAG-Intel-NVIDIA-HD-ND01-U/dp/B0030UH2J4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1269948451&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Zotac-MAG-Intel-NVIDIA-HD-ND01-U/dp/B0030UH2J4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1269948451&sr=8-1)
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-AspireRevo-AR3610-U9022-Desktop-Dark/dp/B0030L3ASU/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1269948524&sr=1-14 (http://www.amazon.com/Acer-AspireRevo-AR3610-U9022-Desktop-Dark/dp/B0030L3ASU/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1269948524&sr=1-14)
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guys... meron nang Asrock na dualcore atom with ions na tig 6500 each ah..
kayalang grey markets
kelan kaya magkakaroon sa local distributor? hehe
palagay ko kasi maging nasa 4500 nalang ito pag local unit na.. and may warranty pa..
has anyone here tried the unit?
may esata po siya... alot of usb etc etc.. so palagay ko maganda po itong all around unit
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This is exciting news for enthusiasts. I'll try to look around to see if a low-wattage system that is 1080p/24 capable can be made for under 18k. :D
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did anyone find a setup that fits the thread starter's requirements?
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still interested... anyone with updates?
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still interested... anyone with updates?
Alternatives have been given in pages 1 and 2 but they're from last year, though.
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intel atom's are too weak to be used as a htpc source to get full playback (dxva & hardware acceleration) you need a video card that supports it.. i've build a setup and is under 10k (maybe 15k if parts are brand new)
my build:
- 775 board
- celeron-L series (35w max)
- ati 5450 low-profile (20w max, h264, dxva 1 & 2 accelaration)
- 2gb ram single stick (less power requirement if using single stick)
- 500gb western digital energy saver
+ 5k for a blueray drive
digital audio pass thru hdmi (thanks to ati) no need for optical outs
around 60-70w pag full load
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but there are internet reviews of intel dual core atoms playing full 1080p content without issues. though with hardware acceleration through on-board nvidia 9300/9400 gpu's.
although, i myself opted for an amd 785-based motherboard with an athlon dual core 2.8ghz cpu which i under-volted for lower power consumption.
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my build:
- 775 board
- celeron-L series (35w max)
- ati 5450 low-profile (20w max, h264, dxva 1 & 2 accelaration)
- 2gb ram single stick (less power requirement if using single stick)
- 500gb western digital energy saver
+ 5k for a blueray drive
digital audio pass thru hdmi (thanks to ati) no need for optical outs
around 60-70w pag full load
curious, this setup can run 1080p flawlessly?
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Yes, because of the ati 5450 which does the video playback.
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yes with shaders enabled (sharpen complex 2) around 30-40% gpu usage (based on gpuz) haven't tried combining different shaders though
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intel atom's are too weak to be used as a htpc source to get full playback (dxva & hardware acceleration) you need a video card that supports it.. i've build a setup and is under 10k (maybe 15k if parts are brand new)
my build:
- 775 board
- celeron-L series (35w max)
- ati 5450 low-profile (20w max, h264, dxva 1 & 2 accelaration)
- 2gb ram single stick (less power requirement if using single stick)
- 500gb western digital energy saver
+ 5k for a blueray drive
digital audio pass thru hdmi (thanks to ati) no need for optical outs
around 60-70w pag full load
this is a very interesting setup especially the use of an entry level Intel procie. just curious, what psu do you use with this rig?