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DVD Forum => DVD-ROM & DVD Backup => Topic started by: Jett on Feb 22, 2003 at 11:43 AM
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I have a DVD writer and an Analog to Digital Firewire device which would allow me to convert VHS / Mini-DV to DVD.
How much do you guys think would be a reasonable amount to charge for the service. I was thinking of charging somewhere between P 800 - P 1000.
Let me know what you think and if you are interested. :)
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pls text me at 0920-514-9633 im interested..how bout the sound? stereo?
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I want to convert some of my VHS to DVD but I dont understand a thing about it. I just want a straight dub only but if I can edit the better. It depends on the price of the equipment. For the mean time, I just want to know how do you upload vhs to computer? Once uploaded what type file will the audio/video be? For the mean time I might convert it to VCD while Im still scouting for a DVD writer. How do I avoid the sync problem or any other problem? Someone suggested to use capture card. How does it work and how about the software? Do I have to upgrade my computer, Im only using a Pentium 3 733MHz with 20G Hard Disk and Liteon CDR? Hope you can help me on my next project. I have no plans of making it a business, only personal use so I dont plan to spend too much but at least good quality conversion. Once uploaded to my HD, how do you burn VCD's? Thanks
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theres this guy from another board who charges 500 pesos for that service, but i got my wedding video(VHS) transfered to DVD for 700 pesos at Virramall last month.
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What shop? Can you wait for it?
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I want to convert some of my VHS to DVD but I dont understand a thing about it. I just want a straight dub only but if I can edit the better. It depends on the price of the equipment. For the mean time, I just want to know how do you upload vhs to computer? Once uploaded what type file will the audio/video be? For the mean time I might convert it to VCD while Im still scouting for a DVD writer. How do I avoid the sync problem or any other problem? Someone suggested to use capture card. How does it work and how about the software? Do I have to upgrade my computer, Im only using a Pentium 3 733MHz with 20G Hard Disk and Liteon CDR? Hope you can help me on my next project. I have no plans of making it a business, only personal use so I dont plan to spend too much but at least good quality conversion. Once uploaded to my HD, how do you burn VCD's? Thanks
I just tried this once, hopefully, i remember the steps correctly.
1. You will need a capture card. I have the Winfast TV2000 XP tuner card with video capture. You can use an RCA jack to connect the VHS to the capture card for the video and then a mini headphone jack to connect to the soundcard's line in (you might need a converter jack).
2. Play the VHS tape and then record it using the software provided for the capture card. You can capture it using several codecs: divx, mpeg1, mpeg2, uncompressed AVI. The Winfast TV2000 software can be configured to use additional video and audio codecs.
20 GB of hard disk would be too small, IMHO. With your processor's speed, this will be the bottleneck. You can use the MPEG1 codec, but the processor will have a hard time converting the analog video to MPEG1 on-the-fly. I have 1 P3-750 processor, and when I convert to MPEG1 on-the-fly, I get skipped frames.
To resolve this, I used the AVI uncompressed codec which use a very large amount of my hard drive. 5 GB for a 12 minute video..
By the way, you can also use a program called VirtualDub. Some say this is better in capturing videos. I just used it in capturing from TV, not yet from a VHS, so not sure about the difference between them.
3. Just in case you decide to upgrade your hard drive to a larger one, the AVI can be converted to a VCD-compliant MPEG1 file using a program called TMPGEnc (free). I prefer to use this one, though there are many more downloadable from the internet.
4. Once converted to a VCD-compliant file, you can cut the movie (if it's too large to fit on a disc) using TMPGEnc.
5. Burn the MPEG1 file using Nero (my preferred software).
I'm sure others have different ways on capturing videos from VHS. Keep them coming, as I am also just starting to learn this thing. :)
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I think VHS/Video8, Mini-DV to DVD conversion should be offered at 500 Pesos only.
Opinion lang naman. ;D
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balasubas (what a nice name!) is correct. it's really simple if you have the right equipment and software. i wonder why you need to charge so high for such simple work. i'd say half or up to 2/3 of the Greenhills rate would be reasonable. me, i charged my friends and relatives only a hundred bucks for such transfer including the disk, until i run out of materials to copy and got peeved with getting a lot of requests. maybe i'll charge P500 per disk one of these days.
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I want to convert some of my VHS to DVD but I dont understand a thing about it. I just want a straight dub only but if I can edit the better. It depends on the price of the equipment. For the mean time, I just want to know how do you upload vhs to computer? Once uploaded what type file will the audio/video be? For the mean time I might convert it to VCD while Im still scouting for a DVD writer. How do I avoid the sync problem or any other problem? Someone suggested to use capture card. How does it work and how about the software? Do I have to upgrade my computer, Im only using a Pentium 3 733MHz with 20G Hard Disk and Liteon CDR? Hope you can help me on my next project. I have no plans of making it a business, only personal use so I dont plan to spend too much but at least good quality conversion. Once uploaded to my HD, how do you burn VCD's? Thanks
Technically speaking, it is not recommended to convert VHS to DVD coz pareho lang ang magiging output. You can enhanced the quality thru a DVD stabilizer card kaya lang its very expensive and its not available here in the Philippines. I was able to buy one in Singapore.
With regards to capturing, first, you will need a video capture card. If you plan to make a VCD, try capturing in MPEG1. If DVD (or even SVCD), use MPEG2. Not all capture cards supports capturing in MPEG2 format.
I'm using ATI All in Wonder 8500 DV 128MB Video capture card and Snazzi III DVD USB edition. But if your budget is not that high, try going for Pinnacle Products. The Pinnacle Studio VCD cost around 3K or less kaya lang it supports MPEG1 only. If you plan to convert videos to DVD, i recommend that you purchased a firewire capture card.
For the software, you can use the one that was inluded in your capture card. Or if you want, you could use some DVD/CD authoring software such as Ulead DVD workshop, DVDiT and other authoring tools which supports video capturing.
If you want to make fully animated DVD's with menus or VCD with menus and special effects, try using an authoring software. Nero only provides you with very simple menus.
You could try Power Director Pro (it supports the PIP function in making VCD/DVD) or Ulead DVD workshop (supports menus and special effects for your VCD/DVD). They are very easy to use.
For advanced authoring, Adobe Premiere and Impression DVD Pro are excellent tools to make your own DVD's.
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I just tried this once, hopefully, i remember the steps correctly.
1. You will need a capture card. I have the Winfast TV2000 XP tuner card with video capture. You can use an RCA jack to connect the VHS to the capture card for the video and then a mini headphone jack to connect to the soundcard's line in (you might need a converter jack).
2. Play the VHS tape and then record it using the software provided for the capture card. You can capture it using several codecs: divx, mpeg1, mpeg2, uncompressed AVI. The Winfast TV2000 software can be configured to use additional video and audio codecs.
20 GB of hard disk would be too small, IMHO. With your processor's speed, this will be the bottleneck. You can use the MPEG1 codec, but the processor will have a hard time converting the analog video to MPEG1 on-the-fly. I have 1 P3-750 processor, and when I convert to MPEG1 on-the-fly, I get skipped frames.
To resolve this, I used the AVI uncompressed codec which use a very large amount of my hard drive. 5 GB for a 12 minute video..
By the way, you can also use a program called VirtualDub. Some say this is better in capturing videos. I just used it in capturing from TV, not yet from a VHS, so not sure about the difference between them.
3. Just in case you decide to upgrade your hard drive to a larger one, the AVI can be converted to a VCD-compliant MPEG1 file using a program called TMPGEnc (free). I prefer to use this one, though there are many more downloadable from the internet.
4. Once converted to a VCD-compliant file, you can cut the movie (if it's too large to fit on a disc) using TMPGEnc.
5. Burn the MPEG1 file using Nero (my preferred software).
I'm sure others have different ways on capturing videos from VHS. Keep them coming, as I am also just starting to learn this thing. :)
Thanks balasubas and lekxxz
Thanks but if my HD wont fit and my processor is too slow then I guess I cant do the conversion. How bad is the drop frame and is there another way to prevent this? What would be a cheap but good capture card? Im thinking of getting a card that could also do DVD but if the price is too high, I could settle on VCD cards only then I will just buy another card next time. Someone is recommending Studio PCTV Gen 5. How is it and do you think this is what I need? OK din ba Winfast?
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i saw this ad... baka u might want to check it out....
http://www.bidshot.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=1057819224
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Anyone who does this in Alabang?
Jett, pls send me PM for details.
JOHN
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...me, i charged my friends and relatives only a hundred bucks for such transfer including the disk, until i run out of materials to copy and got peeved with getting a lot of requests. maybe i'll charge P500 per disk one of these days.
sandawa, sana maging kaibigan kita. P100 ba kamo?
sana wag ka magsawa sa pag-convert at pag-burn. sana swertehin ka sa buhay at manalo ka sa lotto.
pwede bang magpaburn?
:-)
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magkano pa convert ng pal secam ng vhs to dvd? location mo tol and contact number
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Levi,
I use a Studio PCTV capture card and the results are not bad, especially considering the low price of the card. Don't expect enhanced quality though, but if your purpose is really just to digitize your VHS tapes so theyll last forever without any further degradation of quality, I believe it is good enough.
More RAM and video memory would also help a lot in making the transfer as smooth as possible.
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Thanks. Im just planning to convert some personal VHS to VCD. Do you think my P3 733 with 256mb and 20gig HD will do? Is that card plug n play and just follow the software included? Thanks
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Just an update. What do you think should be the charge for a vhs to dvd conversion?
I am pricing it P400 and P250 to vcd. So they will choose the dvd, same process time lang naman eh...
Your opinion will be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Onie.
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Just an update. What do you think should be the charge for a vhs to dvd conversion?
I am pricing it P400 and P250 to vcd. So they will choose the dvd, same process time lang naman eh...
Your opinion will be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Onie.
boss onie, sounds reasonable... but you need to fugure out how you can get back your investment in PC through other means.. editing, video coverage, others... my friend charges 599 per dvd, can go as low as 499 for his "sales agents" ;D
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grabe! I forgot all about this thread that I created. I've had my computer upgraded since then. (from a P3 1 Ghz to a P4 2.6 with 1 GB of RAM)
I think 400-500 is reasonable (depende din sa price ng blank DVD-Rs). I've converted some VHS for friends for free ... yung mahirap lang talaga dito yung time mo while waiting for the video to be encoded to MPEG pero once nandiyan na madali na lang.
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boss onie,
does your conversion include disc label and personalized casing labels? or is your 400 just include a disc transfer.
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hey jett,
You can now capture (directly) an mpeg2 movie directly using a 2.6Ghz dude.
Hi elmers,
Just the disc elmers, though i have a contact that can print cd labels at a very good quality. I don't include labels, coz its not worth it. Siguro po, when i start covering events, then i must produced a dvd at a proffesional labeling.
question again? do you think this is enough? im going to email you some pics of dvd covers that i made. =)
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boss onie,
send over your menu (jpgs) through my email...
about the softwares, may co-worker ako na pwede mo kunin sa kanya...
can you email me your cellphone so ma coordinate... pero baka before christmas siguro sya uuwi.
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Try a Snazzi package, consisting of the capture card (internal or external), and bundled with software like MovieMill and Ulead.
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Hey guys, i also have 3 VHS-C cartridges of video footages that i want to transfer / convert it into VCD/
Got a cd burner and i can make a VCD but my PC does not have audio / video in device. Got the 128 mb ATI Radeon 9200 with only audio and video out (it seems) ::). got an 80GB Seagate 7200, and dual 256 DDR.
i want to experiment doing the transfer to VCD myself. What will i do? will i need to buy what? i got some advise to add a TV tuner... but what TV tuner should i get? thnx - ;)
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Hey guys, i also have 3 VHS-C cartridges of video footages that i want to transfer / convert it into VCD/
Got a cd burner and i can make a VCD but my PC does not have audio / video in device. Got the 128 mb ATI Radeon 9200 with only audio and video out (it seems) ::). got an 80GB Seagate 7200, and dual 256 DDR.
i want to experiment doing the transfer to VCD myself. What will i do? will i need to buy what? i got some advise to add a TV tuner... but what TV tuner should i get? thnx - Â ;)
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with a newly installed Winfast 2000 tv tuner / video capture, i started transfering my personal vhs-c videos to cd -- the VS 8.0 software that comes with it is friendly though i discovered a problem after burning my first output....
The VIDEO is way ahead of the original AUDIO for about 3-5 secs. -- ::) To those using the video studio 8.0 editor, is there a way to solve this? thanks ;)
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Hello jerix,
its normal that you encounter this things at the start. The key thing here, is you must experiment. Try disabling application you don't need. For example, disabling your anti virus can cause a real speed. Try reading articles on how to configure your pc to be fast (tweaks). Then, if symptomps still persist, try capturing on a lower compression. For example, capturing a file in avi format, provides less CPU utilization, thus your pc can coupe up with the video-sound on sync. I read an article in videoguys.com that really helps, its about tweaking you windows xp for video usage. go check it out.
Hope this helps,
Onie.
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Boss Onie, thanks for your insights --- i will try your advise --- ;)
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hi jerix,
Additional info, I am also capturing using ang mpeg2 compression, Okay naman sya, Hindi naman delayed. Pero i usually transfer using a DV-avi format and uncompressed audio. I usually Edit muna kse sir. You will be needing large space using this setup. Here are some tips based from my experience:
Try disabling you auto protect- mine uses norton. (it really helps speed up the pc)
Try mo download disk keeper, pang defrag sya, very effective, you will notice na bibilis yun pc upon defragging.
Nakita mo na ba yun sinasabi ko sayo sa videoguys, effective din yun pag seperate nung memory swap sa ibang drive.
Tsaka one last thing, when capturing, diba may preview ka? us the smallest size, kasi, as you enlarge your display, it requires more CPU usage.
Hope this helps you dude,
Onie.
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Boss Onie, i started last weekend by repartitioning 50 gb for my video files, while 30gb for my programs and OS, i just hope this will help solve the problem.
I will try to recapture all my videos again this weekend while observing all your tips. = tnx again. ;D
btw, got only 80gb hd and dual 256 memory -- is it necessary to upgrade at this time? tnx ;)
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Hi sir jett,
Upgrading your memory? anu yun dual 256DDR mo? 1pc lang? so you are running at 256mb ba?
If you are running on a 256mb RAM, and your asking my opinion if you needed to upgrade? Huhm, i cannot answer you directly, but here is my opinion, Upgrading to a 512RAM, will surely increase the power of your PC. May kasabihan nag pagnaka 512 ka eh dun mo talaga mararamdaman yun power ng pc mo using windowsXP. I myself using a 512 Geil Dual DDR kit, pero, kinakapos pa din ako sa memory consumption ko. but still, i am not upgrading, becz of my budget and in my opinion ay pwede na rin naman sya. Try checking your cpu graph while capturing, dun mo makikita kung kumakain ng malakas sa memory mo at kung nauubusan ka nga. Anu nga pala complete specs ng pc mo? does your MOBO support Dual ddr channels? if it does, please take the advantage of buying another ram, because the dual ddr channel principle works something like this. You have to place your RAm alternately, say slot 1 and 3. Iba na yung pag process nya ng data, simultaneous na silang nagwowork, if your mobo does support this kind of feature.
hope this helps,
Onie.
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got this problem:
After capturing a VHS video file and going into long hours of initial processing, like rendering etc. using Video Studio 8, a prompt appears stating "unable to open file" so it goes back again to zero -- Guys can u help me on this please -- ::) thank you.
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Im not started this yet, but Im planning to do capturing as a hobby, and maybe later on, para pagkakitaan na rin. I've done many video conversions in the past.
all video format - avi
avi - vcd
avi - kvcd (visit kvcd.net, you can fit 3-hour movie into 1 CD only, amazing, check it out)
avi - dvd
avi - kdvd (it's a dvd version of kvcd.. :) )
And for a good start of capturing, try to visit this site.. http://www.digitalfaq.com/dvdguides/capture/intro.htm
Tools that i've used.
TmpgEnc (Tsunami Mpeg Encoder) - AVI to VCD/DVD
D.I.K.O - Automated converting from AVI/DVD to KDVD/KVCD
VirtualDub - Extract Audio (for multiplexing later on, this solves audio sync problem)
VCDCutter - Cut/Join MPEG files
ACP - Automated AVI to KDVD conversion
VideoMach - increases movie resolution
VCDEasy - extracting headers of DAT file to be pure MPEG file
DVDLab - creating DVD disk and menus
NERO - My fave CD/DVD burning software
UltraAVI - another good AVI converter
Xilisoft.3gp.converter - movie converter to mobile phone formats.
StreamboxVCR - capturing streaming media
AVIFrate - chaning framerate of an AVI (to change 24 -> 23.976 standard)
That's all for now, my memory dosn't serve me well.. :)
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I tried capturing VHS to MPEG2 and what i got was that the video was choppy and wasn't smooth.
My computer's specs are:
Athlon XP 2000
384MB RAM (256MB+128MB)
Windows 2000 Professional
Lifeview 2000 video capture card
Geforce MX400 32MB Video card
Do I need to upgrade to a faster processor, a higher memory RAM or a better videocard to improve my video output?
Help guys....
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From Boss Onie:
"You will be needing large space using this setup. Here are some tips based from my experience:
Try disabling you auto protect- mine uses norton. (it really helps speed up the pc)
Try mo download disk keeper, pang defrag sya, very effective, you will notice na bibilis yun pc upon defragging.
Nakita mo na ba yun sinasabi ko sayo sa videoguys, effective din yun pag seperate nung memory swap sa ibang drive.
Tsaka one last thing, when capturing, diba may preview ka? us the smallest size, kasi, as you enlarge your display, it requires more CPU usage."
;D
Doc got the same problem din -- i followed Boss Onie's advise
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jerix- thanks for the advise. i'll try to experiment tonite....
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Doc another thing -- allocating at least a separate 30GB for your video file may help. Increasing that will even make it better. The larger allocation the better because this will make the video file more stable. Just like mine before with my 80 gb i allocated 30 gb for my OS and 50 gb for my video files. However, its best when u have a separate HD for your video files. Just got another 80 gb of HD recently for the same purpose.
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Doc another thing -- allocating at least a separate 30GB for your video file may help. Increasing that will even make it better. The larger allocation the better because this will make the video file more stable. Just like mine before with my 80 gb i allocated 30 gb for my OS and 50 gb for my video files. However, its best when u have a separate HD for your video files. Just got another 80 gb of HD recently for the same purpose.
Hi sir jerix,
Huhm, it seems you still encounter the same problem, may i ask what specific format are you using when you are capturing? you need to experiment on this. Try capturing a 1min video, and see if the video and audio is in sync?
if it is sync? the problem maybe on your hardisk space? the disk gets slower and slower when it is filled up.
Try to check if you have Ultra DMA cables on your drive, try to download the sisoft sandra. These program will benchmark your computer, please check your files system benchmark. THis will test the speed of your hard drive, you must have at least 30mb/sec transfer rate in order for you to capture a 30fps video. Drive speeds are usually rated at 48mb/s.
DOing a raid on your drive will help you speed up your pc. Try to upgrade your drivers especially your capture card.
You may also inform us, on how you solve the problem. but on my side, im not having a problem on that concern.
My specs,
MSI BOard, intel 865pe chipset
512 dual ddr kit GEIL
80G ide- partitioned 15 (OS) 65 backup files
120 and 160 G SATA on raid.
Hope this helps,
Onie.
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im charging 400 for DVD, 150 for vcd
We preserve your videos for the following tapes/disc
1. VHS (NTSC/PAL)
2. Betamax (NTSC)
3. VHSC (NTSC/PAL)
4. Hi-8 (NTSC)
5. Video8 (NTSC)
6. Digital 8 (NTSC)
7. MiniDV (NTSC)
8. DVD (PAL/NTSC)
9. Laser Disc (NTSC)
into VCD or DVD (NTSC) format.
for VCD
1 hour of video can be fit in 1 vcd
with cd labeled printed colored sticker and plastic case
charge is 150 per vcd, 100 for the next disc or copy of the same disc
for DVD
Will provide basic menus, introductory and ending logo, chapters and photo gallery as the special features.
(Please bring scanned photos in JPG format and mp3 for background music otherwise no photo gallery)
Charge is PhP 400/DVD. 200 pesos for the next dvd disc or same copy of the 1st converted
With CD Label Printed colored sticker and CD Case
Tapes recommended for DVD conversion are Video8/Hi-8/Digital 8 and MiniDV tapes for the quality is perfect.
Direct transfer from Firewire Port (IEEE 1394)
therefore no loss of quality for video and sound
(resolution will be 720 x 480 with 48K AC3 sound)
Resources
Uses Sony/Plextor/Pioneer DVD Writer and uses branded DVD-R writes at 2x maximum for high quality recording.
6 workstations with ASUS pentium 4 motherboard,
ATI all in wonder 8500 video capture card, ATI All in Wonder 9600 XT 128 MB, ATI All in Wonder 7500 64 MB
512MB memory
Ultra 160 SCSI Hardisk
(6) 200 GB Harddisk
(8) 160 GB Harddisk
(10) 80 GB Harddisk
You may txt me 09209241722 for the service
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Hi sir jerix,
Huhm, it seems you still encounter the same problem, may i ask what specific format are you using when you are capturing? you need to experiment on this. Try capturing a 1min video, and see if the video and audio is in sync?
if it is sync? the problem maybe on your hardisk space? the disk gets slower and slower when it is filled up.
Try to check if you have Ultra DMA cables on your drive, try to download the sisoft sandra. These program will benchmark your computer, please check your files system benchmark. THis will test the speed of your hard drive, you must have at least 30mb/sec transfer rate in order for you to capture a 30fps video. Drive speeds are usually rated at 48mb/s.
DOing a raid on your drive will help you speed up your pc. Try to upgrade your drivers especially your capture card.
You may also inform us, on how you solve the problem. but on my side, im not having a problem on that concern.
My specs,
MSI BOard, intel 865pe chipset
512 dual ddr kit GEIL
80G ide- partitioned 15 (OS) 65 backup files
120 and 160 G SATA on raid.
Hope this helps,
Onie.
Boss Onie, sorry for the late reply dikoto nabasa kaagad -- i will try to study ur advise and maybe better to have somebody interpret or do it medyo nangangapa pa talaga ako -- thnx !
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Hi there guys and gals, is anyone here still offering this conversion service? A relative found some old family movies they want to convert to dvd, kindly post here kung meron pa or text me at 09184611489, thanks a lot
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Nawala yung sa Looking For section but I suggested this before di ko lang alam if it still there (No 78 stall) dahil matagal na rin akong nagawi ng Greenhills.
http://www.greenhills.com.ph/imap-vmall-3.php
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Nawala yung sa Looking For section but I suggested this before di ko lang alam if it still there (No 78 stall) dahil matagal na rin akong nagawi ng Greenhills.
http://www.greenhills.com.ph/imap-vmall-3.php
Thanks bro
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i used to pass by hidalgo st in quiapo and i remember that there were stalls offering this service at a low price. I remember that they're using a Pinnacle breakout box for analog inputs that was few years back.. I used to convert analog media to DVD but sold my gears already..
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Ultravision in Pasig is offering this service. They currently have an ongoing promo with Groupon.
http://www.ultraphotovideo.com/index.htm
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i used to pass by hidalgo st in quiapo and i remember that there were stalls offering this service at a low price. I remember that they're using a Pinnacle breakout box for analog inputs that was few years back.. I used to convert analog media to DVD but sold my gears already..
Sir the shop is still in service.. here's the nos. 09214474898 and 09174504179. talk to Beth (owner) no affiliation. sa loob ng gawaan ng mga picture frame.
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Anybody doing this somewhere in alabang?
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Check out this post advertising the services of CopyTown:
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,201164.0.html
Their website:
http://copytown.net/