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Title: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Jun 14, 2011 at 10:10 AM
After the NBA, malapit na naman ang collegiate basketball which, to me, is more exciting than the PBA!  In July, Season 87 na ng NCAA followed by Season 74 ng UAAP.

NCAA :  Seems like malakas pa rin ang defending champion San Beda Red Lions with the addition of Nigerian Ola Adeogun.  Top player Sudan Daniels is still injured.  Nawala na si top playmaker Borgie Hermida pero pumalit naman yun top guard na si Amer Baser na galing sa Juniors.  Next favorite is still the San Sebastian Stags.  Andun pa rin si Calvin "The Beast" Abueva!  Tingin ko eto pa rin ang sa finals.

UAAP :  Ateneo, with 6'11 Slaughter and guard Kiefer Ravena, is the heavy favorite.  Sobrang lakas!  Slaughter has an outside shot and moves very well.  Si Ravena, anak ni Bong, plays awesome and is now touted to be the future of the UAAP.  Dark horse is FEU and Adamson.  La Salle pwede na pero, tsk tsk, kulang sa players eh.

Let's cheer for our teams when the new season starts!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Phobos on Jun 14, 2011 at 10:15 AM
Ateneo is good, but not undefeatable. Their preseason game with DLSU was an embarrassment. I don't know if it was jetlag or what, but DLSU simply dismantled their offense and defense. Watching that game was just painful.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Jun 14, 2011 at 10:27 AM
Ateneo is good, but not undefeatable. Their preseason game with DLSU was an embarrassment. I don't know if it was jetlag or what, but DLSU simply dismantled their offense and defense. Watching that game was just painful.

DLSU is a well coached team!  Also watched the San Beda vs DLSU preseason game live at Filoil where San Beda won via a three point shot by Lanete.  But during that game, San Beda was leading all throughout pero hinabol ng DLSU and almost won had they executed the final play.  Galing din ng habol ng DLSU.

However, the loss of the Lions against Ateneo last Sunday was also painful >:(  Best game of Ateneo and worst game of San Beda.  Tambakekok!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Jun 14, 2011 at 10:29 AM
Here's a good website to follow the collegiate games:

http://www.inboundpass.com/ (http://www.inboundpass.com/)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jun 14, 2011 at 01:22 PM
Fearless Forecast: Ateneo vs Adamson for the 2011 UAAP Finals.

NCAA: i dont like the way San Beda's approach to rule the NCAA by recruiting imports to play for their school.
its ok if they recruit talents from the provinces rather than getting these vehemonths from the States, etc.
thats unfair to the schools who doesnt have the budgets to recruit foreign players from other countries.

sobrang madaya may fil ams na, may negro pa.
this is only a collegiate tourney so it should be all filipino to give balance to the league.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Jun 14, 2011 at 01:46 PM
Fearless Forecast: Ateneo vs Adamson for the 2011 UAAP Finals.

NCAA: i dont like the way San Beda's approach to rule the NCAA by recruiting imports to play for their school.
its ok if they recruit talents from the provinces rather than getting these vehemonths from the States, etc.
thats unfair to the schools who doesnt have the budgets to recruit foreign players from other countries.

sobrang madaya may fil ams na, may negro pa.
this is only a collegiate tourney so it should be all filipino to give balance to the league.


Not only San Beda but some other schools as well like UP's Morian Gingerich (American), Ateneo's Kirk Long (American), La Salle's Indonesian Ferdinand, FEU's Noundou (Cameroonian).  NU has gotten yata the son of former import Bobby Parks.  And many more.  But the most scrutinized are the Nigerians, African Americans kasi nga sila lang yun talagang mukhang imported.  The rest like Kirk Long, hindi halatado.

The rule in the UAAP / NCAA is clear :  "A player is considered a foreigner in the NCAA/ UAAP if he doesn’t have a single trace of Filipino blood. The league rulebook states that each team can have a maximum of two foreigners on their 16-man roster but they cannot be fielded in at the same time. Foreigners should also serve a two-year residency or should have studied at least two consecutive years in the country before being allowed to suit up"    If they're legit players, they can play.

I think this is not a huge problem.  The bigger problem is some schools recruiting players na hindi naman talaga students meaning, talagang kinuha lang for the game.  Yun iba overage, tapos ni walang high school diploma then ginawang japeyks lang para makapagaral ng college at makapaglaro ng basketball. IMO, yun ang bawal kasi ma fraud involved.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jun 14, 2011 at 02:25 PM
in my personal opinion, dpat higpitan un screening ng mga foreign players.
if they are really foreign students here and are already enrolled, they should be allowed to play.
Kirk Long has been in the Phil since his Faith Academy days so matagal na sya resident here, even in the PBA he should be an exemption to the rule sulit naman un stay ksi nya dto sa Pinas.
Un San Beda naman ksi its very obvious they have try outs in the States to select their import para mg aral at mglaro dto.
un anak naman ni Parks considered as Fil-am un so pwede na rin.

i just hope other schools can recruit from the provinces the likes of CALVIN ABUEVA, RR GARCIA, etc
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jun 14, 2011 at 02:26 PM
Not only San Beda but some other schools as well like UP's Morian Gingerich (American), Ateneo's Kirk Long (American), La Salle's Indonesian Ferdinand, FEU's Noundou (Cameroonian).  NU has gotten yata the son of former import Bobby Parks.  And many more.  But the most scrutinized are the Nigerians, African Americans kasi nga sila lang yun talagang mukhang imported.  The rest like Kirk Long, hindi halatado.

The rule in the UAAP / NCAA is clear :  "A player is considered a foreigner in the NCAA/ UAAP if he doesn’t have a single trace of Filipino blood. The league rulebook states that each team can have a maximum of two foreigners on their 16-man roster but they cannot be fielded in at the same time. Foreigners should also serve a two-year residency or should have studied at least two consecutive years in the country before being allowed to suit up"    If they're legit players, they can play.

I think this is not a huge problem.  The bigger problem is some schools recruiting players na hindi naman talaga students meaning, talagang kinuha lang for the game.  Yun iba overage, tapos ni walang high school diploma then ginawang japeyks lang para makapagaral ng college at makapaglaro ng basketball. IMO, yun ang bawal kasi ma fraud involved.

I actually am for the addition of foreign players (student-athlete first!) playing in the collegiate leagues. Early on, local talents are exposed to taller, faster, better competition which forces them to learn and be better at basketball. If you argue for all filipino, then youre just stymying their growth. By having foreigners in the collegiate league (kung pwede high school nga) you actually prepare them to play against the behemoths in the PBA or international scene.

On the argument that locals are being deprived of playing time, if they were good in the first place then you have no worries about getting into the team. i.e. Kiefer Ravena. Even if he was competing against ray parks jr. in the same team, he'd still get playing time. Talent shines through whatever race, social class, etc.

I find it highly contradicting that some quarters want to exclude foreigners in the collegiate when we ourselves would want our young players to crack NCAA div. 1 schools in the US.

The rules in place are sufficient with regard to only 1 foreign on the floor and two max per team. The only question is, if they are student athletes or just recruited to play. Heck, some local players don't go to school at all yet somehow pass college and they even take up some obscure course "translation management" or pool management of sorts. haha. That point i think should be enforced. that athletes should be academically proficient, that foreign or local players are there to study and playing is incidental or added bonus for the university.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jun 14, 2011 at 02:33 PM
in my personal opinion, dpat higpitan un screening ng mga foreign players.
if they are really foreign students here and are already enrolled, they should be allowed to play.
Kirk Long has been in the Phil since his Faith Academy days so matagal na sya resident here, even in the PBA he should be an exemption to the rule sulit naman un stay ksi nya dto sa Pinas.
Un San Beda naman ksi its very obvious they have try outs in the States to select their import para mg aral at mglaro dto.
un anak naman ni Parks considered as Fil-am un so pwede na rin.

i just hope other schools can recruit from the provinces the likes of CALVIN ABUEVA, RR GARCIA, etc

Kirk Long has been in the Philippines since 1992 if i'm not mistaken. He's actually more Filipino than some fil-ams that were recruited to play in the collegiate leagues.

I agree on the screening and determining if they were here to study in the first place.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Jun 14, 2011 at 03:43 PM
in my personal opinion, dpat higpitan un screening ng mga foreign players.
if they are really foreign students here and are already enrolled, they should be allowed to play.
Kirk Long has been in the Phil since his Faith Academy days so matagal na sya resident here, even in the PBA he should be an exemption to the rule sulit naman un stay ksi nya dto sa Pinas.
Un San Beda naman ksi its very obvious they have try outs in the States to select their import para mg aral at mglaro dto.
un anak naman ni Parks considered as Fil-am un so pwede na rin.

i just hope other schools can recruit from the provinces the likes of CALVIN ABUEVA, RR GARCIA, etc

As one said, they should be student-athletes first and not athlete - students.  

Agree with the recruitment process of schools. San Sebastian had tremendous success two years ago when they won the NCAA crown over San Beda with an All Filipino Lineup led by Calvin "the Beast" Abueva.  So it's doable.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: bumblebee on Jun 14, 2011 at 03:52 PM
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Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Jun 14, 2011 at 03:58 PM

On the argument that locals are being deprived of playing time, if they were good in the first place then you have no worries about getting into the team. i.e. Kiefer Ravena. Even if he was competing against ray parks jr. in the same team, he'd still get playing time. Talent shines through whatever race, social class, etc.



First time I saw Ravena play live last Sunday at the Filoil Arena.  This guy's got game.  I was so impressed (even If I rooted for the opposing team) that when I saw Bong the dad, I immediately congratulated and told him how good his son is ;D  Sabi ko kay Bong, "madami papahirapan yang anak mo Bong..."
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jun 14, 2011 at 04:16 PM
First time I saw Ravena play live last Sunday at the Filoil Arena.  This guy's got game.  I was so impressed (even If I rooted for the opposing team) that when I saw Bong the dad, I immediately congratulated and told him how good his son is ;D  Sabi ko kay Bong, "madami papahirapan yang anak mo Bong..."

I was also at Fil-oil last sunday and i have seen live, Kiefer play against SBC twice. He's 5'11 and in the first game against SBC, coach frankie lim threw numerous defenders (taller) to try and stop him. he scored 24pts. that game. 

I also saw the game live when he requested that he guard Ray Parks and there was one fast break opportunity that he wanted to dunk to show off but Ray parks caught up and blocked him cleanly which resulted in a mid-air collision with bodies banging loudly against each other.  talk about talent and balls. If i'm not mistaken, he was voted as best forward in the last under 18 fiba-asia tournament and part of the mythical five of that tournament.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Jun 14, 2011 at 04:21 PM
I was also at Fil-oil last sunday and i have seen live, Kiefer play against SBC twice. He's 5'11 and in the first game against SBC, coach frankie lim threw numerous defenders (taller) to try and stop him. he scored 24pts. that game. 

I also saw the game live when he requested that he guard Ray Parks and there was one fast break opportunity that he wanted to dunk to show off but Ray parks caught up and blocked him cleanly which resulted in a mid-air collision with bodies banging loudly against each other.  talk about talent and balls. If i'm not mistaken, he was voted as best forward in the last under 18 fiba-asia tournament and part of the mythical five of that tournament.


I would assume you're an Eagle ;D  Good thing my Lions won't have to face your team.  Haha.  Good luck. 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jun 14, 2011 at 05:18 PM
I would assume you're an Eagle ;D  Good thing my Lions won't have to face your team.  Haha.  Good luck. 

Haha! yes sir! Good luck to your team's campaign in the NCAA as well.

btw, very good crowd support for SBC last sunday. Impressed with the balloons and the cheerleaders coming out to support your team.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Jun 14, 2011 at 09:29 PM
Haha! yes sir! Good luck to your team's campaign in the NCAA as well.

btw, very good crowd support for SBC last sunday. Impressed with the balloons and the cheerleaders coming out to support your team.

My son and I, unfortunately, got seated with Ateneans.  Eto dialogue ng Ateneans sa likod ko tungkol sa attendance:

"Pare, dami nakapula ah. Mas madami yata sa tin"
"E kasi di naman alam ng Ateneans kung asan ang San Juan! And walang parking eh"

It was a dream match since the last time this 2 met in a championship was way back in 1978, in a closed door match.  This was the time of Loyzaga, Frankie Lim, Yango, Guzman brothers for San Beda versus Ateneo's Israel, Carpio, Steve Watson.  San Beda won!  I was Grade 6 then. 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jun 29, 2011 at 03:38 PM
i wonder how this year's SAN BEDA team will fair now that Sudan Daniels is injured and that their newly recruited import is still serving the 1 year residence.
Should they win, then they will prove me and the critics wrong, but should they lose, then it can be concluded that they arent good enough w/o an import.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jun 29, 2011 at 04:55 PM
i wonder how this year's SAN BEDA team will fair now that Sudan Daniels is injured and that their newly recruited import is still serving the 1 year residence.
Should they win, then they will prove me and the critics wrong, but should they lose, then it can be concluded that they arent good enough w/o an import.

my guess is they will struggle this time. They have a very good PG then in Hermida and the imports, i believe hermida is not playing anymore.

it pains me that UST after the four peat di na nakapag perform ng maganda kay pag UAAP basketball di na ako masyado an excite, nood lang without emotion.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Superman on Jun 29, 2011 at 05:03 PM
University Athletic Association of the Philippines 2011-2012 Season
Men's Basketball Games Schedule - ROUND 1 (SUBJECT TO CHANGE per ABS-CBN Sports)
Winning teams and scores are highlighted:

    Sunday, July 10: Araneta Coliseum - 1:00 pm FEU vs DLSU | 3:00 pm ADMU vs AdU
    Thursday, July 14: Araneta Coliseum - 1:00 pm NU vs UST | 3:00 pm UE vs UP
    Saturday, July 16: Araneta Coliseum - 11:00 am AdU vs FEU | 3:00 pm DLSU vs ADMU
    Sunday, July 17: Araneta Coliseum - 1:00 pm UP vs NU | 3:00 pm UST vs UE
    Thursday, July 21: Araneta Coliseum - 1:00 pm ADMU vs NU | 3:00 pm FEU vs UE
    Saturday, July 23: Araneta Coliseum - 1:00 pm DLSU vs UP | 3:00 pm UE vs ADMU
    Sunday, July 24: Philsports Complex - 1:00 pm NU vs FEU | 3:00 pm UST vs AdU
    Thursday, July 28: Philsports Complex - 1:00 pm AdU vs UE | 3:00 pm NU vs DLSU
    Saturday, July 30: Araneta Coliseum - 1:00 pm UP vs ADMU | 3:00 pm UST vs FEU
    Sunday, July 31: Philsports Complex - 1:00 pm DLSU vs UE | 3:00 pm AdU vs NU
    Thursday, August 4: Araneta Coliseum - 1:00 pm UP vs FEU | 3:00 pm ADMU vs UST
    Saturday, August 6: Araneta Coliseum - 1:00 pm UE vs NU | 3:00 pm DLSU vs AdU
    Sunday, August 7: Araneta Coliseum - 1:00 pm UST vs UP | 3:00 pm FEU vs ADMU
    Thursday, August 11: Araneta Coliseum - 1:00 pm UP vs AdU | 3:00 pm UST vs DLSU

GO LA SALLE! :D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jun 29, 2011 at 06:20 PM
I actually thought a few UAAP games would be played at the MOA Arena, since the SM conglomerate now owns NU and is part of the board.

Btw, the Parks kid may need to red shirt for another year.  Slaughter has been deemed eligible.  A few players have changed allegiances, too.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jun 29, 2011 at 06:48 PM
if slaughter suites up and keifer ravena as well, it is very hard to beat Ateneo, Ravena is probabaly the best player at his age right now if not the best across the board. but like what they say, bilog ang bola so who knows.

sana naman makakuha ng UST ng blue chip player, puro corn chips player and meron sila eh.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jun 29, 2011 at 09:40 PM
I actually thought a few UAAP games would be played at the MOA Arena, since the SM conglomerate now owns NU and is part of the board.

Btw, the Parks kid may need to red shirt for another year.  Slaughter has been deemed eligible.  A few players have changed allegiances, too.

The MOA Arena i think will be completed in May 2012. There are a lot of rumors as to who the foreign act will be opening it. (coldplay, nba preseason game, etc.) Seating capacity is around 14k. 20k SRO. Still a small place. I was hoping we'd have a really large venue so we could have U2 performing here. :D

Yeah, currently it seems that Ray parks would red shirt. But they've been given a week to produce more "papers" / documents. As to what they are, nobody in the public knows. Hopefully, he's allowed to play para kiefer vs. ray parks!

Hopefully on July 5, Ray parks and Greg Slaughter will be allowed to play!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Jun 30, 2011 at 09:56 AM
i wonder how this year's SAN BEDA team will fair now that Sudan Daniels is injured and that their newly recruited import is still serving the 1 year residence.
Should they win, then they will prove me and the critics wrong, but should they lose, then it can be concluded that they arent good enough w/o an import.

Tough luck for us Lions.  Sudan is injured but my sources say he will be allowed to play for a limited period only. So he will still play, contrary to reports.  Aside from that, San Beda has weakened in the No. 1 position sans the departure of Borgie Hermida.  Their new recruit, Amer Baser from the Cubs, was hit by viral infection yata and sobrang pumayat!  Now he is still recuperating and definitely not 100%.  There are other PGs - Caram, Pontejos & Lim but nobody fills up the slack left by Hermida. 

Very challenging year indeed, especially when other teams have bolstered their squad with foreigners.  Kahit ata San Sebastian may foreigner na din. 

But as our alma mater hymn says, "Bring out the challenges, and we'll win them all..." Go San Beda fight ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jun 30, 2011 at 10:30 AM
my guess is they will struggle this time. They have a very good PG then in Hermida and the imports, i believe hermida is not playing anymore.

it pains me that UST after the four peat di na nakapag perform ng maganda kay pag UAAP basketball di na ako masyado an excite, nood lang without emotion.

i'm also from UST. it saddens me coz they havent done the proper recruitments to solidify their team in the past seasons?
kulang tlga sa BIG MEN plus an explosive point guard.
during my college days in UST we have the best players (home grown pa wlang IMPORTS or Fil-ams), halos lahat ng members reached the PBA, evangelista, bal david, edmund reyes, rudolf belmonte, tanquinsen, espino, cantonjos, etc.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Jun 30, 2011 at 10:40 AM
i'm also from UST. it saddens me coz they havent done the proper recruitments to solidify their team in the past seasons?
kulang tlga sa BIG MEN plus an explosive point guard.
during my college days in UST we have the best players (home grown pa wlang IMPORTS or Fil-ams), halos lahat ng members reached the PBA, evangelista, bal david, edmund reyes, rudolf belmonte, tanquinsen, espino, cantonjos, etc.

My wife and my brothers are from UST.  The last championship was versus Ateneo several years ago, right?  Ateneo was 1-0 and then UST pulled off a stirring back to back win.  Magaling na coach(and player) si Pido Jarencio.  But yes, kulang lang sa tao talaga. 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jun 30, 2011 at 01:48 PM
My wife and my brothers are from UST.  The last championship was versus Ateneo several years ago, right?  Ateneo was 1-0 and then UST pulled off a stirring back to back win.  Magaling na coach(and player) si Pido Jarencio.  But yes, kulang lang sa tao talaga. 

Yes UST played inspired basketball during Jarencio's rookie year as head coach.

Ateneo is dominating the league becoz of massive recruitments.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Jun 30, 2011 at 03:23 PM
Basketball observer here since the 80's ...... my humble 2-cents on above discussions:


** I too was not so high on SAN BEDA's recruitment of African-based players the past few years ..... same with DLSU's heavy Fil-Am recruitment during the 90's (Cortez, Cardona, Allado, Wilson, Castro, Ramos, Jose, etc) & to an extent ADMU (Alvarez, Cruz, etc).

It's all above-board & legal, but it just doesnt make for a level-playing field (La Salle even had Mike Gonzales then, a US-based player agent who scouts & recruits Filams).

I recall ADMU's Fr. Calauag writing an open-letter of sorts, years ago ..... his observations were that Filam player recruitment might send the wrong message & could displace equally-deserving homegrown players. He admitted that ADMU & a few other schools were active into the Filam recruitment.

** SAN BEDA's recent recruitment of African-based players had set a (bad?) precedent, as many other collegiate teams had followed suit.

I'm in no way a SAN BEDA basher .... I think that their local crew (sans the other players) is pretty solid & would still be among the contenders.

** UST had great results in the 90's via their UST-HS & regional-based recruitment. Aric Del Rosario (and FEU's past coaches) preferred Pampanguenos with a sprinkling of Visayas-based players.

UST & FEU (and UE) still pretty much gets players the same way ..... unfortunately, the other teams had notched up their own systems.

DLSU's Filam recruitment had waned through the years replaced by solid recruitment from mostly NCAA junior teams, elevating standout HS players (Maierhofer, Webb,etc) & recently, a very lucky coincidence of having then coach F.Pumaren, as a Phil Youth Team head coach.

ADMU meantime went several notches higher ...... strategic recruitment from great provincial based programs (Baclao, Slaughter, etc). 

As for NU having Ray Parks Jr ..... let's just say, that I dont think that Parks Jr. will shun a US NCAA Division I school, if the Paguia family were still running NU. Having the richest Filipino as owner, will do wonders for NU's athletic progams.

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Jun 30, 2011 at 04:10 PM
Actually, this recruitment thing has been in the collegiate basketball since the 1970's.  Di na bago 'to.  FEU started it all by recruiting a pure american Anthony Williams that actually gave them 2 UAAP Championships in the early 70's.  Then DLSU recruited Willy Pearson in the early 80s naman.  Reason?  Hindi naman bawal kasi.  It is well within the rules of collegiate basketball. 

All participating schools want to win Championships, thats why they join, right? However, there are rules to follow.  And if schools like San Beda, La Salle, FEU or Ateneo are resourceful enough to work WITHIN THE EXISTING RULES, and get the right athletes for its programs, then they deserve their championships naman. The reality is, other schools follow anyway.  And kung sa tingin naman nila e hindi tama ang ganitong sistema, they can just refrain from doing it.  San Sebastian, for example, beat the Lions in 2009 with an All Filipino squad.  But I think Baste also recruited a foreigner for this season.

Again, hiring foreigners is not against the RULES. It is completely valid and legal.   In the US, schools get players from all over the world (including the Philippines); its allowed - and this is from a country with supposedly no dearth in athletes of all skill levels, shapes, sizes, etc.  So it's a universally accepted practice.

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Jun 30, 2011 at 04:21 PM
^ Like I said in my earlier post, it's all above-board & legal ....... I dont think anyone here has claimed otherwise.


Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Jun 30, 2011 at 04:53 PM
I wasn't reacting to the legality issue since, like you said, nobody here is saying otherwise.

I would like to comment, however, on two issues that you mentioned.


It's all above-board & legal, but it just doesnt make for a level-playing field (La Salle even had Mike Gonzales then, a US-based player agent who scouts & recruits Filams). LET ME PARAPHRASE A COMMENT FROM A PDVD MEMBER :  "On the argument that locals are being deprived of playing time, if they were good in the first place then you have no worries about getting into the team. i.e. Kiefer Ravena. Even if he was competing against ray parks jr. in the same team, he'd still get playing time. Talent shines through whatever race, social class, etc. "


** SAN BEDA's recent recruitment of African-based players had set a (bad?) precedent, as many other collegiate teams had followed suit. OTHERS LIKE FEU AND DLSU HAVE BEEN RECRUITING SINCE THE EARLY 70'S AND 80'S. THIS IS NOTHING NEW.  I THINK IT WAS JUST MAGNIFIED BY SAN BEDA BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN WINNING.

I'm in no way a SAN BEDA basher .... I think that their local crew (sans the other players) is pretty solid & would still be among the contenders. SALAMAT AND SANA'Y MAGKATOTOO ;D!



Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Jun 30, 2011 at 05:47 PM
I'm not one who buys the argument about playing time ..... I'm in agreement with you that the best players will get the playing time.

I too know of the early recruitment practices from ages ago ..... and yes it's likely that Beda has been magnified because they're winning (check out SSC's All-Filipino Champ t-shirts a few years back, hehe).

However, I was thinking along a similar vein as Fr. Calauag's open-letter ...... it's more on a foreigner taking the place of a homegrown talent. Our's is a basketball-mad country with courts even in the most obscure places possible (graveyards even).

There's absolutely no shortage of basketball talent (Phil basketball setting talent anyways) here. The PBA is deluged with amateur hopefuls every draft ..... there's way too much amateur talent here in the country & not enough pro/am leagues to cater to them. Well hope you get my drift here .....

That's just me ..... like I said, I think Beda's lineup is rock-solid & winning a 'chip this year (will be a top contender IMO) sans Daniel might change a few opinions out there.



Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: bumblebee on Jun 30, 2011 at 07:26 PM
Why recruit anyway? To win? Are the UAAP/NCAA pro now?

I'm sure you guys passed the entrance exams of your respective schools. Wouldn't you want your players to do so as well? And why is it that the UAAP/NCAA are seemingly synonymous to basketball? What about other sports?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jun 30, 2011 at 08:01 PM
i'm also from UST. it saddens me coz they havent done the proper recruitments to solidify their team in the past seasons?
kulang tlga sa BIG MEN plus an explosive point guard.
during my college days in UST we have the best players (home grown pa wlang IMPORTS or Fil-ams), halos lahat ng members reached the PBA, evangelista, bal david, edmund reyes, rudolf belmonte, tanquinsen, espino, cantonjos, etc.

sir im a good friend of udoy belmonte, magkasama kami sa engineering, graduated 1992.

it seems UST is not able to lure good players because of the highly commercialized way of recruiting players nowadays, huge allowance, board and lodging so blue chip players ends up with the school that can offer lucrative package

same is true with Volleyball.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jun 30, 2011 at 08:10 PM
sir mattia is it ok to also discuss volleyball in this thread? since UST has not been that good in basketball, I have shifted my liking to volleyball moreso on WVT not juts becasue of the pretty players but WV in our country has improved a lot. Reason why I opened this up was becasue of how NU was able to get two excellent players from UST and this is becasue of lucrative offers they gave the players.

I think the manner of recruitment nowadays has really gone too commercialized but just the same, Im sure there will still be players who will not be lured by this but by the school pride so he will still end up playing for a particular school he really wants too.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: krets pulpol on Jun 30, 2011 at 08:18 PM
I'm done watching UAAP years ago when I heard players selling games from different sides. Parang nangyayari na yung nangyari dati sa PBA na puro imports, o kung sa liga mga "dukot"  ;D It's all about the money now, not school pride. Since ABS-CBN aired NCAA and UAAP, that was it. They capitalized on that craze, gone are the pure telecast of Trillo and Javier kahit primitive pa. And basketball only gives the big limelight, volleyball once in a while pag tsix ang mga players tulad sa Ateneo  ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Jun 30, 2011 at 08:55 PM
sir im a good friend of udoy belmonte, magkasama kami sa engineering, graduated 1992.

it seems UST is not able to lure good players because of the highly commercialized way of recruiting players nowadays, huge allowance, board and lodging so blue chip players ends up with the school that can offer lucrative package

same is true with Volleyball.

Udoy's big bro Doc Mon was my batchmate in high school San Beda.  Udoy himself is from San Beda ;D  Okay yan si Udoy.  PBA Player turned Pilot!! 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Jun 30, 2011 at 09:02 PM
sir mattia is it ok to also discuss volleyball in this thread? since UST has not been that good in basketball, I have shifted my liking to volleyball moreso on WVT not juts becasue of the pretty players but WV in our country has improved a lot. Reason why I opened this up was becasue of how NU was able to get two excellent players from UST and this is becasue of lucrative offers they gave the players.

I think the manner of recruitment nowadays has really gone too commercialized but just the same, Im sure there will still be players who will not be lured by this but by the school pride so he will still end up playing for a particular school he really wants too.

By all means.  Volleyball, Swimming, what have you.  It's a free for all thread actually.  It's just that, being a basketball crazy nation, mas madami lang talaga mahilig sa basketball.  But go ahead.  Start the discussion! I want to be in the know as well.  Especially that you mentioned pretty players ;D You got me interested.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jun 30, 2011 at 09:03 PM
I'm done watching UAAP years ago when I heard players selling games from different sides. Parang nangyayari na yung nangyari dati sa PBA na puro imports, o kung sa liga mga "dukot"  ;D It's all about the money now, not school pride. Since ABS-CBN aired NCAA and UAAP, that was it. They capitalized on that craze, gone are the pure telecast of Trillo and Javier kahit primitive pa. And basketball only gives the big limelight, volleyball once in a while pag tsix ang mga players tulad sa Ateneo  ;D

this is what i feel is happening but probabaly because UST never had the chance to land excellent players, i just hope players will releive those days wherein players are really playing for pride, i could still recall the times when Ateneo and La Salle are fighting it out the era of the canlas' was it for ateneo or perhaps the times when locsin or limpot was still playing.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jun 30, 2011 at 09:26 PM
By all means.  Volleyball, Swimming, what have you.  It's a free for all thread actually.  It's just that, being a basketball crazy nation, mas madami lang talaga mahilig sa basketball.  But go ahead.  Start the discussion! I want to be in the know as well.  Especially that you mentioned pretty players ;D You got me interested.

hahaha i tell you sir, when the UAAP WV opens, do catch up with the games, you will be amazed at how great college volleyball have become, maybe not at far with Asian level but definitely very competitive. Defending champion is La Salle who lost just one game last season only becasue of technicality becasue of one player they fielded who played on another league while the UAAP is ongoing.

UST both MVT and WVT has been the best until last year for the WVT, La Salle is very strong this comming season but Ateneo is the defending champion for the V League, its a commercial league composed of the core of the players of the participating team who are NCAA/UAAP members too last time even including Visayas and Mindanao team.

pretty exciting to wacth and to prep you up try searching for the pics of these players becasue they are really excellent players.

UST

Maru Banaticla
Rhea Dimaculangan
Kat Carangan

FEU

Vargas

NU

Marivic Nepomuceno

ATENEO

Gretchen Ho
Fille Cainglet
Bea Pascual


LASALLE

Michelle Gumabao
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jul 01, 2011 at 02:12 AM
ATENEO

Gretchen Ho
Fille Cainglet
Bea Pascual


This is a short list, imho.  It should be longer.  :D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: brainwashed on Jul 01, 2011 at 04:31 AM
this is what i feel is happening but probabaly because UST never had the chance to land excellent players, i just hope players will releive those days wherein players are really playing for pride, i could still recall the times when Ateneo and La Salle are fighting it out the era of the canlas' was it for ateneo or perhaps the times when locsin or limpot was still playing.

kanino ba nagsimula yung pagpapalaro ng mga dukot? Ito lang ang alam kong talagang dukot, playing for a school he was not enrolled in. and anong school lang ba ang nanalo ng championship game only to lose it eventually to technicality, dahil sa mga pinaglarong mga dukot players! ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 01, 2011 at 11:35 AM
Basketball observer here since the 80's ...... my humble 2-cents on above discussions:


** I too was not so high on SAN BEDA's recruitment of African-based players the past few years ..... same with DLSU's heavy Fil-Am recruitment during the 90's (Cortez, Cardona, Allado, Wilson, Castro, Ramos, Jose, etc) & to an extent ADMU (Alvarez, Cruz, etc).

It's all above-board & legal, but it just doesnt make for a level-playing field (La Salle even had Mike Gonzales then, a US-based player agent who scouts & recruits Filams).

I recall ADMU's Fr. Calauag writing an open-letter of sorts, years ago ..... his observations were that Filam player recruitment might send the wrong message & could displace equally-deserving homegrown players. He admitted that ADMU & a few other schools were active into the Filam recruitment.

** SAN BEDA's recent recruitment of African-based players had set a (bad?) precedent, as many other collegiate teams had followed suit.

I'm in no way a SAN BEDA basher .... I think that their local crew (sans the other players) is pretty solid & would still be among the contenders.

** UST had great results in the 90's via their UST-HS & regional-based recruitment. Aric Del Rosario (and FEU's past coaches) preferred Pampanguenos with a sprinkling of Visayas-based players.

UST & FEU (and UE) still pretty much gets players the same way ..... unfortunately, the other teams had notched up their own systems.

DLSU's Filam recruitment had waned through the years replaced by solid recruitment from mostly NCAA junior teams, elevating standout HS players (Maierhofer, Webb,etc) & recently, a very lucky coincidence of having then coach F.Pumaren, as a Phil Youth Team head coach.

ADMU meantime went several notches higher ...... strategic recruitment from great provincial based programs (Baclao, Slaughter, etc). 

As for NU having Ray Parks Jr ..... let's just say, that I dont think that Parks Jr. will shun a US NCAA Division I school, if the Paguia family were still running NU. Having the richest Filipino as owner, will do wonders for NU's athletic progams.



in my opinion, OK lng mgrecruit ng Fil-Ams but definitely a NO NO to recruit foreign players w/c San Beda has the money and luxury to do so in the past few years.
much better maghanap nlng ng mga taga olongapo, pampanga na ala Calvin Abueva.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 01, 2011 at 11:39 AM
sir im a good friend of udoy belmonte, magkasama kami sa engineering, graduated 1992.

it seems UST is not able to lure good players because of the highly commercialized way of recruiting players nowadays, huge allowance, board and lodging so blue chip players ends up with the school that can offer lucrative package

same is true with Volleyball.

yes udoy he's now a pilot right?
nakasama ko sya in some classes sa mechanical eng'g
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jul 02, 2011 at 02:36 AM
This is a short list, imho.  It should be longer.  :D

ATENEO WVT additional

denden lazaro
ella de jesus
dzi gervacio
kara acevedo
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 05, 2011 at 10:59 AM
Nagkakagulo pa UAAP regardin sa eligibility ni Slaughter and Parks.
I feel they should just let them play since they're Fil-Ams.
What should should prohibit are those IMPORTS mostly from Africa nowadays.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: frootloops on Jul 05, 2011 at 11:04 AM
^ nagkakagulo sila dahil lahat sila gusto kunin si Slaughter and Parks, kaso NU is now owned by Lucio Tan and Bobby Parks is their sports coordinator...saan ka pa?  ;D

San Beda was at the helm for some time until MP came in...in reality the more budget you have the more good players you get. They buy them?..absolutely. And with Ateneo out of MP's mind...it's all San Beda getting all the moolah.  

FilAms killed the PBA, I just hope it wont happen in the NC/UA.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 05, 2011 at 11:07 AM
Nagkakagulo pa UAAP regardin sa eligibility ni Slaughter and Parks.
I feel they should just let them play since they're Fil-Ams.
What should should prohibit are those IMPORTS mostly from Africa nowadays.

They should prohibit non-students.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 05, 2011 at 11:17 AM
^ nagkakagulo sila dahil lahat sila gusto kunin si Slaughter and Parks, kaso NU is now owned by Lucio Tan and Bobby Parks is their sports coordinator...saan ka pa?  ;D

San Beda was at the helm for some time until MP came in...in reality the more budget you have the more good players you get. They buy them?..absolutely. And with Ateneo out of MP's mind...it's all San Beda getting all the moolah.  

FilAms killed the PBA, I just hope it wont happen in the NC/UA.

for me ok lng fil-ams to spice up the leagues but NO NO to imports coz this is just the collegiate level where young aspirants should be exposed to competitions.

wla na ba sila mahanap sa mga far away provinces in search of raw talents w/c they can improve and create an impact in later years? SAn Beda w/ MVP has the money to invest on that Badtrip lng tlga to see them get IMPORTS that make the league inbalance.
napapagaya tuloy un other schools.
UST from what i know is also parading two African imports and also 1 from UP.
The leagues should put an end to this to give much exposure for home grown talents.
sayang lng un mga gnagawang camps ng NIKE eh ang dami naman pwede hugutin dun na talents from different schools nationwide.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Jul 05, 2011 at 03:48 PM
^ I have no issues with Fil-Ams playing in the amateur leagues ...... they're still Filipinos, though settled down elsewhere.

However, as written in my earlier post, DLSU's Fil-Am recruitment during the 90's was a bit different ..... aside from having a known sports-agent handle their Filam recruitment, the number of Filam players they recruited was excessive IMO ..... right of the bat, Cortez, Cardona, Castro, Ramos, Allado, Wilson, Jose, etc.

Even the PBA realized the potential backlash & negative perception that a team overflowing with Filams will have ..... thus, they instituted a 5-Filam per team rule years ago.

As for import players ..... I have stated my opinion on them in my earlier posts.

 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jul 05, 2011 at 04:25 PM
Parks and Slaughter are allowed to play in UAAP 74!!! For NU, they will be definitely strong contenders if they can back up parks. From what i've seen, once you shutdown parks, the rest of the team is quite manageable.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jul 05, 2011 at 04:58 PM
for UST, quite dissapointing to me to see how jeric teng plays, i have been reading and hearing in the past that this guy is a superstar in the junior's league and can easily score 50 points a game but everytime i get the chance to see UST play last year, i dont think he is really good.or is it a case of not getting the good breaks really?

with slaughter now cleared to play, Ateneo will be hard to beat, they are the defending champion yet they added a very tall player at 6'11" and pehaps the best player coming from the juniors keiffer ravena

by the way sino na ba ang best center, forward and pointguard ngayon sa UAAP?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Waxx on Jul 05, 2011 at 05:02 PM
^ nagkakagulo sila dahil lahat sila gusto kunin si Slaughter and Parks, kaso NU is now owned by Lucio Tan and Bobby Parks is their sports coordinator...saan ka pa?  ;D

 

sir froots, NU is owned by henry sy, not lucio tan.. lucio tan owns UE.. feu and nu owned by henry sy..


nevertheless lucio tan doesnt really care about sport (other than golf).. but his son does..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: brainwashed on Jul 05, 2011 at 05:07 PM
for me ok lng fil-ams to spice up the leagues but NO NO to imports coz this is just the collegiate level where young aspirants should be exposed to competitions.

wla na ba sila mahanap sa mga far away provinces in search of raw talents w/c they can improve and create an impact in later years? SAn Beda w/ MVP has the money to invest on that Badtrip lng tlga to see them get IMPORTS that make the league inbalance.
napapagaya tuloy un other schools.
UST from what i know is also parading two African imports and also 1 from UP.
The leagues should put an end to this to give much exposure for home grown talents.
sayang lng un mga gnagawang camps ng NIKE eh ang dami naman pwede hugutin dun na talents from different schools nationwide.

Does UP now, have the money to finance getting imports? I don't think so. If that foreigner studies in UP then he must have qualified academically to study in UP. And I doubt the other players much more the University Student Council would allow UP's sports budget, what little of it, to just go to one foreign player.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Jul 05, 2011 at 05:22 PM
for UST, quite dissapointing to me to see how jeric teng plays, i have been reading and hearing in the past that this guy is a superstar in the junior's league and can easily score 50 points a game but everytime i get the chance to see UST play last year, i dont think he is really good.or is it a case of not getting the good breaks really?

with slaughter now cleared to play, Ateneo will be hard to beat, they are the defending champion yet they added a very tall player at 6'11" and pehaps the best player coming from the juniors keiffer ravena

by the way sino na ba ang best center, forward and pointguard ngayon sa UAAP?

Yup, Teng has been somewhat of a disappointment ...... he was tearing up the junior Chinoy leagues - but even then wasn't seen as tough as past products like Yeo, Tang, etc. Let's hope he improves dramatically this season.

Besides, scoring prowess in junior leagues isn't really an accurate guage for seniors .... many past super-scorers e.g. recently UST's Dizon, who was scoring 40pts regularly, yet became just average senior players.

Right of the bat, FEU's Ramos & ADMU's Slaughter should be the top centers ....   fowards are ADU's Colina & ADMU's Salva ..... PG is defintely FEU's Garcia (AFAIK Paul Lee will not play his final year).  

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jul 05, 2011 at 05:30 PM
Yup, Teng has been somewhat of a disappointment ...... he was tearing up the junior Chinoy leagues - but even then wasn't seen as tough as past products like Yeo, Tang, etc. Let's hope he improves dramatically this season.

Besides, scoring prowess in junior leagues isn't really an accurate guage for seniors .... many past super-scorers e.g. recently UST's Dizon, who was scoring 40pts regularly, yet became just average senior players.

Right of the bat, FEU's Ramos & ADMU's Slaughter should be the top centers ....   fowards are ADU's Colina & ADMU's Salva ..... PG is defintely FEU's Garcia (AFAIK Paul Lee will not play his final year).  



tyvm sir newwave, guess i have not been paying much attention to  the games as I dont know the players you have mentioned anymore

going back to jeric teng, is jeron teng joining UST this year or next year? i wish UST can find a very good talent or is it UST needing a new coach?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: vinci on Jul 05, 2011 at 06:57 PM
going back to jeric teng, is jeron teng joining UST this year or next year? i wish UST can find a very good talent or is it UST needing a new coach?

aside sa walang superstar player, mukhang coach ang problema sir.  sa daming beses ko napanood ang uste na napakalaki ng lamang, lagi sila nahahabol. at pag crunch time na.walang play na ma design or ma execute ng matino.parang di nila mapalitan si pido kasi 1st season pa lang nya napag champ na niya agad, pero mga sumunod na season..wala na..i guess kelangan na rin sya palitan.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jul 05, 2011 at 07:06 PM
aside sa walang superstar player, mukhang coach ang problema sir.  sa daming beses ko napanood ang uste na napakalaki ng lamang, lagi sila nahahabol. at pag crunch time na.walang play na ma design or ma execute ng matino.parang di nila mapalitan si pido kasi 1st season pa lang nya napag champ na niya agad, pero mga sumunod na season..wala na..i guess kelangan na rin sya palitan.

thats what i thought, yung mga games na napapanood ko ang sama talaga ng patterns ng UST and they really suck big time in protecting their lead, ang sama pa ng rotation ni pido sa players nya

yung panalo nila againts ateneo ba yun, swerte lang eh, nawala lang talaga sa hwisyo yung player ng ateneo, it more of bad breaks for Ateneo than good exectuion from UST. Im from UST but sad to say, I am not liking their basketball program kaya sa taas na posts ko sabi ko baka pwedeng isama na din sa thread ang volleyball at least dun UST is really tough, ilang sunod na champion sa men's and sa women's

another observation, mukhang malas sa pointguard and UST di maka execute ng maayos sa games
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Jul 05, 2011 at 07:34 PM
tyvm sir newwave, guess i have not been paying much attention to  the games as I dont know the players you have mentioned anymore

going back to jeric teng, is jeron teng joining UST this year or next year? i wish UST can find a very good talent or is it UST needing a new coach?

AFAIK Jeron is still in HS ..... however, I have a gut feeling that he wont choose UST once he makes it to the seniors.

Like I said in my earlier post, UST has always been consistent in it's recruitment practices - majority are from Pampanga (Aric Del Rosario's backyard), while the rest come from Visayas & NCR junior leagues & a few top-rated UST Pay High talents ..... by the way, UST & ADMU used to be the only schools who elevate most of their HS players, with other perennial contenders content to raid mostly the Ato Badolato-school of great HS players (SBC Juniors).

It's just the other schools have taken their recruitment system a few notches higher.

DLSU's 90's Filam recruitment had waned through the years replaced by solid recruitment from mostly NCAA junior teams, elevating standout HS players (Maierhofer, Webb,etc) & just recently, had a very lucky coincidence of having ex-coach Franz Pumaren serve as Phil Youth Team head coach.

ADMU had strategic recruitment from great Senior provincial based leagues (Baclao, Slaughter, etc).

I do agree that Jarencio needs to go ..... offense is stagnant despite the guard-based lineup. UST has recently been a nice source of good basketball coaches e.g. Tanquincen, Favis, Chua, etc ..... maybe it can convince one of them to give the UAAP a try (Favis was a good amateur coach, led Letran & UST Juniors to 'chips).

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jul 05, 2011 at 08:19 PM
AFAIK Jeron is still in HS ..... however, I have a gut feeling that he wont choose UST once he makes it to the seniors.

Like I said in my earlier post, UST has always been consistent in it's recruitment practices - majority are from Pampanga (Aric Del Rosario's backyard), while the rest come from Visayas & NCR junior leagues & a few top-rated UST Pay High talents ..... by the way, UST & ADMU used to be the only schools who elevate most of their HS players, with other perennial contenders content to raid mostly the Ato Badolato-school of great HS players (SBC Juniors).

It's just the other schools have taken their recruitment system a few notches higher.

DLSU's 90's Filam recruitment had waned through the years replaced by solid recruitment from mostly NCAA junior teams, elevating standout HS players (Maierhofer, Webb,etc) & just recently, had a very lucky coincidence of having ex-coach Franz Pumaren serve as Phil Youth Team head coach.

ADMU had strategic recruitment from great Senior provincial based leagues (Baclao, Slaughter, etc).

I do agree that Jarencio needs to go ..... offense is stagnant despite the guard-based lineup. UST has recently been a nice source of good basketball coaches e.g. Tanquincen, Favis, Chua, etc ..... maybe it can convince one of them to give the UAAP a try (Favis was a good amateur coach, led Letran & UST Juniors to 'chips).



oh isnt it that binky also coached sa MBA? sana nga tulungan naman nila ang UST,

I was sruprised to know Eric Altamirano na pala coach ng NU, talagang very aggresive ang NU sawa na din siguro sa palaging sila ang whipping boys before pero ngayon mukhang UST na ang nasa lugar na yun, Chua is ALfrancis right? I also like that guy sya yung coach ng Tanduay sa PBA , nasan na kaya mag yan sila ang kalingan ng UST ngayon, pag panonoorin mo mga laro ng UST, walang kabuhay buhay, para ka lang nanonood ng limahan sa kanto
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Jul 05, 2011 at 08:51 PM
oh isnt it that binky also coached sa MBA? sana nga tulungan naman nila ang UST,

I was sruprised to know Eric Altamirano na pala coach ng NU, talagang very aggresive ang NU sawa na din siguro sa palaging sila ang whipping boys before pero ngayon mukhang UST na ang nasa lugar na yun, Chua is ALfrancis right? I also like that guy sya yung coach ng Tanduay sa PBA , nasan na kaya mag yan sila ang kalingan ng UST ngayon, pag panonoorin mo mga laro ng UST, walang kabuhay buhay, para ka lang nanonood ng limahan sa kanto

Hehe, great observations on UST's recent basketball showing ...... it's spot on. Stagnant & not enough effort compared to the old days of Bal David, Dale Singson, etc.

Cant recall if Binky Favis ever coached in the MBA ........ he was a good-defensive coach in the pros but was solid in the amateurs leading Letran & Juniors to 'chips.

Yup, that's Alfrancis Chua ...... one of the more hot-headed coaches out there, but has swagger that rubs off on his players ..... guys like Webb, Rubi, Cantonjos, Telan, Gallent, etc had very decent PBL stints because of Chua.

You're correct ..... NU is sparing no expense in trying to make an impact in the UAAP. Eric Altamirano is a decent motion-offense coach ..... was a disciple of Jacobs for a time.

Like I said, I dont think that Ray Parks Jr. will shun a US NCAA Division I school, if the old Paguia family were still running NU. Having the richest Filipino as owner, will do wonders for NU's athletic progams.

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jul 05, 2011 at 10:45 PM
Hehe, great observations on UST's recent basketball showing ...... it's spot on. Stagnant & not enough effort compared to the old days of Bal David, Dale Singson, etc.

Cant recall if Binky Favis ever coached in the MBA ........ he was a good-defensive coach in the pros but was solid in the amateurs leading Letran & Juniors to 'chips.

Yup, that's Alfrancis Chua ...... one of the more hot-headed coaches out there, but has swagger that rubs off on his players ..... guys like Webb, Rubi, Cantonjos, Telan, Gallent, etc had very decent PBL stints because of Chua.

You're correct ..... NU is sparing no expense in trying to make an impact in the UAAP. Eric Altamirano is a decent motion-offense coach ..... was a disciple of Jacobs for a time.

Like I said, I dont think that Ray Parks Jr. will shun a US NCAA Division I school, if the old Paguia family were still running NU. Having the richest Filipino as owner, will do wonders for NU's athletic progams.



i hope if UST fares badly this season(hard pill to swallow but i think they will) first thing that the management will do is replace the coach. Its very important to have blue chip players but UST's current line up is not bad at all but potentials are not maximized. I happen to watch one of their practices sometime and they have good moves. Having a fiery coach for them would stir up things and perhaps bring up the best in the players.

as regards NU, they were able to get great volleyball players from UST and FEU. From UST, the most promising rookie Dindin Santiago, who is very instrumental in the UST WVT championship two seasons ago was convinced by NU to transfer together with her sister, who was in high school,then from UST too. Dindin stands 6'1" while the sister is 6' 3"

from FEU, they got Mumay Vivas and Monique Tiangco, both star players of FEU
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: brainwashed on Jul 05, 2011 at 11:35 PM
i hope if UST fares badly this season(hard pill to swallow but i think they will) first thing that the management will do is replace the coach. Its very important to have blue chip players but UST's current line up is not bad at all but potentials are not maximized. I happen to watch one of their practices sometime and they have good moves. Having a fiery coach for them would stir up things and perhaps bring up the best in the players.

as regards NU, they were able to get great volleyball players from UST and FEU. From UST, the most promising rookie Dindin Santiago, who is very instrumental in the UST WVT championship two seasons ago was convinced by NU to transfer together with her sister, who was in high school,then from UST too. Dindin stands 6'1" while the sister is 6' 3"

from FEU, they got Mumay Vivas and Monique Tiangco, both star players of FEU

perhaps! kaya lang it may also backfire. remember ateneo under joe lipa? hindi sanay na namumura yung mga players kaya kahit na gano kaganda yung program ni lipa e hindi sila nagchampion under lipa. nung tinigbak si lipa nagchampion agad sila using the lipa program.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 06, 2011 at 01:24 AM
perhaps! kaya lang it may also backfire. remember ateneo under joe lipa? hindi sanay na namumura yung mga players kaya kahit na gano kaganda yung program ni lipa e hindi sila nagchampion under lipa. nung tinigbak si lipa nagchampion agad sila using the lipa program.

I played 2 yrs under Coach Joe Lipa in High School. I played in the same league that produces Atoy Co, Lim Eng Beng, Benny Cheng, Joseph Yeo, Chris Tiu, TY Tang, Justin Chua, Jeric Teng. We won our 1st Championship because of him. I had my best years under this highly volatile coach. All i can say is that he had a hard time dealing with SUPERSTARS but certainly a great motivator to under rated players that plays with a lot of heart.

As for Jeric Teng not producing much in the UAAP compared to how he dominated in the Tiong Lian League, well, The UAAP is a different level, in high school Jeric plays the power forward where he can go strong to the basket unchallenged. Here in the collegiate league he plays off guard and of course due the size of the players in this level, he cant just penetrate like what he's doin in high school.
UST isnt performing well due to lack of BIG MEN coz after Jervy Cruz with UST, they havent found a replacement for him at the slot so Coach Jarencio has to make his team a run and gun team to try to offset height advantage of their opponents with speed and outside shooting. Sad to say they cant sustain it so they always collapse in the end game when outside shooting gets sour.

My casts for the UAAP Final 4 this upcoming season:
Ateneo
De La Salle
Adamson
Far Eastern University


I left out NU coz i dont think Ray Parks can carry the Bulldogs single handedly with his God-given talent.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jul 06, 2011 at 01:25 AM
perhaps! kaya lang it may also backfire. remember ateneo under joe lipa? hindi sanay na namumura yung mga players kaya kahit na gano kaganda yung program ni lipa e hindi sila nagchampion under lipa. nung tinigbak si lipa nagchampion agad sila using the lipa program.

but the thing is the coach was replaced,

UST is not getting anywhere not even close to a final four
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jul 06, 2011 at 03:15 AM
Pido is one fiery coach.. medyo toned down lang siya pagdating sa UAAP kasi mga bata.. he handled Max Bond in the recent PBA D-League with most of his UST players and there was a game where he got ejected kasi hinamon niya ng suntukan yung coach ng kalaban.. I don't think Pido lacks the fire to motivate his players.. nasa players na talaga yung kulang.. no matter how good you are, kung wala ka talagang puso maglaro, wala rin..

I remember a game last season yata yun where UST was up big tapos nahabol.. at a crucial point in the game, Pido was asking his PG to set up a play pero ang ginawa ng PG, tumira ng tres with still over 16 seconds sa shot clock.. ayun airball.. the next play, the guy did the same thing.. nasabon tuloy ni Pido nung timeout..

UST has a shot at the Final four this season.. that Ferrer guy from their juniors team is good.. payat pero may galaw at may tira sa labas.. umaayos na rin decision making ni Fortuna.. Teng is erratic at times pero at least palagi siyang aggressive.. they can make a run at that last spot sa final four with the lineup they have..

Ateneo and FEU for me are shoo-ins in the final four.. Adamson and La Salle, malaki rin chances but I wouldn't be surprised if one of them won't make it.. As for my UP, manalo lang ng isang game masaya na ako.. spoiler lang naman sila eh.. bawi na lang sa Cheerdance competition.. ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jul 06, 2011 at 05:21 AM
NU should not be underestimated.  They were 7-7 last year and was a win away from the Final Four.

They still have Emmanuel Mbe and the core of last year's team.  They have an experienced coach in Eric Altamirano and arguably the best all-around rookie in Ray-ray Parks and other capable freshmen like Cedric Labing-isa (RP Youth Team).

Their facilities have also been improved with the infusion of fresh funds from SM.  Expect logistical support for their sports teams to improve as well.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: brainwashed on Jul 06, 2011 at 06:38 AM
I played 2 yrs under Coach Joe Lipa in High School. I played in the same league that produces Atoy Co, Lim Eng Beng, Benny Cheng, Joseph Yeo, Chris Tiu, TY Tang, Justin Chua, Jeric Teng. We won our 1st Championship because of him. I had my best years under this highly volatile coach. All i can say is that he had a hard time dealing with SUPERSTARS but certainly a great motivator to under rated players that plays with a lot of heart.


Adtually, most of the players of Ateneo responded well to Lipa except for a few who resented his style. Unfortunately, the alumni felt his style was not appropriate for Ateneo, thus the sacking.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: brainwashed on Jul 06, 2011 at 06:45 AM
but the thing is the coach was replaced,

UST is not getting anywhere not even close to a final four

but he was replaced by someone who simply continued his program sans the verbal abuse. and they won. so it seems the problem is that the coach and the players don't see eye-to-eye. but since they have already won a championship with Pido, I guess the real problem lies with the players. I guess I agree with boredfilmmaker.

Pido is one fiery coach.. medyo toned down lang siya pagdating sa UAAP kasi mga bata.. he handled Max Bond in the recent PBA D-League with most of his UST players and there was a game where he got ejected kasi hinamon niya ng suntukan yung coach ng kalaban.. I don't think Pido lacks the fire to motivate his players.. nasa players na talaga yung kulang.. no matter how good you are, kung wala ka talagang puso maglaro, wala rin..

I remember a game last season yata yun where UST was up big tapos nahabol.. at a crucial point in the game, Pido was asking his PG to set up a play pero ang ginawa ng PG, tumira ng tres with still over 16 seconds sa shot clock.. ayun airball.. the next play, the guy did the same thing.. nasabon tuloy ni Pido nung timeout..


Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: vinci on Jul 06, 2011 at 08:09 AM
but since they have already won a championship with Pido, I guess the real problem lies with the players. I guess I agree with boredfilmmaker.


i cannot fully remember their line up after their championship, pero after that season, downhill na.  and the season they became champs, suspended ang la salle non.  baka iba naging storya kung active ang archers non.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: pao9307 on Jul 06, 2011 at 08:39 AM
animo la salle pa rin!  ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jul 06, 2011 at 09:22 AM
Pido is one fiery coach.. medyo toned down lang siya pagdating sa UAAP kasi mga bata.. he handled Max Bond in the recent PBA D-League with most of his UST players and there was a game where he got ejected kasi hinamon niya ng suntukan yung coach ng kalaban.. I don't think Pido lacks the fire to motivate his players.. nasa players na talaga yung kulang.. no matter how good you are, kung wala ka talagang puso maglaro, wala rin..

I remember a game last season yata yun where UST was up big tapos nahabol.. at a crucial point in the game, Pido was asking his PG to set up a play pero ang ginawa ng PG, tumira ng tres with still over 16 seconds sa shot clock.. ayun airball.. the next play, the guy did the same thing.. nasabon tuloy ni Pido nung timeout..

UST has a shot at the Final four this season.. that Ferrer guy from their juniors team is good.. payat pero may galaw at may tira sa labas.. umaayos na rin decision making ni Fortuna.. Teng is erratic at times pero at least palagi siyang aggressive.. they can make a run at that last spot sa final four with the lineup they have..

Ateneo and FEU for me are shoo-ins in the final four.. Adamson and La Salle, malaki rin chances but I wouldn't be surprised if one of them won't make it.. As for my UP, manalo lang ng isang game masaya na ako.. spoiler lang naman sila eh.. bawi na lang sa Cheerdance competition.. ;D

but he was replaced by someone who simply continued his program sans the verbal abuse. and they won. so it seems the problem is that the coach and the players don't see eye-to-eye. but since they have already won a championship with Pido, I guess the real problem lies with the players. I guess I agree with boredfilmmaker.


let us see then how things will shape up then,

just my opinion, if my players or moreso my starting 5  will not follow my instructions and not trust me as their coach, i will bench the players or not include them in the line at all. maybe its just all frustrations from my end, i havent seen UST in the final four for a long while and i dont think i will for quite sometime
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jul 06, 2011 at 06:34 PM
Pido is one fiery coach.. medyo toned down lang siya pagdating sa UAAP kasi mga bata.. he handled Max Bond in the recent PBA D-League with most of his UST players and there was a game where he got ejected kasi hinamon niya ng suntukan yung coach ng kalaban.. I don't think Pido lacks the fire to motivate his players.. nasa players na talaga yung kulang.. no matter how good you are, kung wala ka talagang puso maglaro, wala rin..

I remember a game last season yata yun where UST was up big tapos nahabol.. at a crucial point in the game, Pido was asking his PG to set up a play pero ang ginawa ng PG, tumira ng tres with still over 16 seconds sa shot clock.. ayun airball.. the next play, the guy did the same thing.. nasabon tuloy ni Pido nung timeout..

UST has a shot at the Final four this season.. that Ferrer guy from their juniors team is good.. payat pero may galaw at may tira sa labas.. umaayos na rin decision making ni Fortuna.. Teng is erratic at times pero at least palagi siyang aggressive.. they can make a run at that last spot sa final four with the lineup they have..

UST for me would still finish around 6th place (they finished 7th last year i think). They may have Kevin Ferrer but he is still too raw and too lean to be an inside presence. They have a nigerian import who is a hot head but might be effective in the inside but they will still come up short. Their guys have poor shot selection. They live and die by the three. Pido is a good motivator, etc. but he's not a good coach overall in devising plays, etc.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jul 06, 2011 at 06:53 PM
UST for me would still finish around 6th place (they finished 7th last year i think). They may have Kevin Ferrer but he is still too raw and too lean to be an inside presence. They have a nigerian import who is a hot head but might be effective in the inside but they will still come up short. Their guys have poor shot selection. They live and die by the three. Pido is a good motivator, etc. but he's not a good coach overall in devising plays, etc.

this is what i thought, i dont think pido has the technical skills to design  good plays.

anyway, i was able to watch the Arellano/JRU game earlier. Im so impressed with Lopez of JRU and Lapuz of Arellano
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 06, 2011 at 07:18 PM
UST for me would still finish around 6th place (they finished 7th last year i think). They may have Kevin Ferrer but he is still too raw and too lean to be an inside presence. They have a nigerian import who is a hot head but might be effective in the inside but they will still come up short. Their guys have poor shot selection. They live and die by the three. Pido is a good motivator, etc. but he's not a good coach overall in devising plays, etc.

A coach can only do so much. Jarencio doesnt have the pieces others teams have to make it to the Final Four. Perhaps UST should improve its recruiting program. Other teams like NU have tried to move heaven and earth just to have the proper pieces installed for their new coach to start this season.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Jul 06, 2011 at 08:24 PM
NCAA Schedule ( Fil Oil Arena )

http://inboundpass.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-basketball/teams.php?conference_id=12 (http://inboundpass.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-basketball/teams.php?conference_id=12)

UAAP Schedule ( Araneta Coliseum & with 2 games at Ultra )

http://inboundpass.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-basketball/teams.php?conference_id=13 (http://inboundpass.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-basketball/teams.php?conference_id=13)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: brainwashed on Jul 06, 2011 at 08:27 PM
this is what i thought, i dont think pido has the technical skills to design  good plays.


But that is what assistant coaches are for, design good offensive and defensive plays and suggest a specific play to him during actual games when the situation warrants it.

But I guess a few more losing seasons and he would be replaced. Coaching is one job which has no security in tenure.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jul 06, 2011 at 11:09 PM
But that is what assistant coaches are for, design good offensive and defensive plays and suggest a specific play to him during actual games when the situation warrants it.

But I guess a few more losing seasons and he would be replaced. Coaching is one job which has no security in tenure.

I guess the coaching staff needs reinforcement as well if that's the case. For the UST pdvd members, found this forecast which echoes some of my observations but this just from one website (chinoyhoopsfan.blogspot.com):

University of Santo Tomas (Season 73: 7th place, 4-10)
Head Coach: Pido Jarencio


Additions: Karim Abdul, Kevin Ferrer, Ron Javier, Kent Lao, Jaypee Sarcia, Jamil Sheriff, Robin Tan, Aljohn Ungria, Louie Vigil
Subtractions: Clark Bautista, Eduardo Daquioag, Fritz Delgado, Kenneth Mamaril, Edcor Marata, Aljon Mariano, AC Marquez, Vince Tinte, Jackson Wong
Holdovers: Carmelo Afuang, Eddie Aytona, Chris Camus, Jeric Fortuna, Kim Lo, Paolo Pe, Jeric Teng

Without any real big men aside from Chris Camus, the Tigers relied entirely on their three-point shot, leading the league in number of triple makes (8.71) and percentage from outside (38.75%), while on the flipside, falling to last in free throws attempted (13.71) and made (8.71). That lack of height also affected the team in other ways, as they pulled down the least number of boards (35.36) in the league and allowed opponents to shoot their best (42.66%).

The Tigers reloaded for their quadricentennial year, hauling in Louie Vigil, finally getting Karim Abdul after residency, and keeping Juniors MVP Kevin Ferrer. But that same quadricentennial celebration also puts pressure on this squad to perform well, coupled with Coach Pido Jarencio’s self-made proclamation that if he doesn’t get a Final Four slot this season, he’s resigning. How that affects this squad will be interesting to see, though truth be told, their offense didn’t really change so much. They lose Clark Bautistia, but add in Vigil, Ferrer, and Jaypee Sarcia so they’ll still be bombing away from long range. The biggest addition is Abdul down low, picking up offensive rebounds and maybe even being active in the post. If they solve their rebounding and then improve the defense, then we might still see Jarencio on the sidelines next season.

Why they can win a title:

    Three-point shooting – Over the summer, the Tigers continued to wax hot from three-point land, making 7.9 a game, best in the Fil-Oil Tourney. The addition of Ferrer will make their shooting better because of his size and speed, he poses a mismatch problem and can also get the ball to open guys should he draw a double-team.


Why they can’t win a title:

    Lack of size – Despite having Abdul, this is still a small team, with a big man rotation that consists of Abdul, Paolo Pe, Melo Afuang and Camus. Should Abdul get into foul trouble, the Tigers become the same team they were last season, one without much ceiling.

    Shot discipline – This squad, as talented as it is from the outside, shouldn’t see it as their only weapon. Teng and Ferrer are excellent slashers and should expand their repertoire to include drive and kick moves. If the Tigers become too simplistic with their offense (a common complaint about Jarencio), other teams will have an easier time game-planning against them.
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A rundown of the other teams as well are found is in his blog and also inboundpass.com has also their own previews (predictions as well) for all of the UAAP teams this S74.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 07, 2011 at 01:37 AM
Speaking of UST, we cant blame Jarencio for applying the Korean Brand of Play w/c consist of three point shooting and transition baskets to maximize his players talents and off set height advantage of their opponents with their speed. Problem is, if they cant control the boards, they cant run much plus they will have to live and die with their outside shots.
Another strategy could be to have their not so big men play the perimeter and have their small guards specially Jeric Teng post up the opposing team's guards.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: dpogs on Jul 08, 2011 at 09:21 PM
magchampion naman sana ang UP Maroons...

di ung puro aral lang... :)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 09, 2011 at 06:17 PM
magchampion naman sana ang UP Maroons...

di ung puro aral lang... :)

sa cheerdance sila bumabawi.

hanep un UAAP opening as host Ateneo adapted the Olympic style opening ceremony.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 09, 2011 at 11:19 PM
University Athletic Association of the Philippines 2011-2012 Season
Men's Basketball Games Schedule - ROUND 1 (SUBJECT TO CHANGE per ABS-CBN Sports)
Winning teams and scores are highlighted:

    Sunday, July 10: Araneta Coliseum - 1:00 pm FEU vs DLSU | 3:00 pm ADMU vs AdU
    Thursday, July 14: Araneta Coliseum - 1:00 pm NU vs UST | 3:00 pm UE vs UP
    Saturday, July 16: Araneta Coliseum - 11:00 am AdU vs FEU | 3:00 pm DLSU vs ADMU
    Sunday, July 17: Araneta Coliseum - 1:00 pm UP vs NU | 3:00 pm UST vs UE
    Thursday, July 21: Araneta Coliseum - 1:00 pm ADMU vs NU | 3:00 pm FEU vs UE
    Saturday, July 23: Araneta Coliseum - 1:00 pm DLSU vs UP | 3:00 pm UE vs ADMU
    Sunday, July 24: Philsports Complex - 1:00 pm NU vs FEU | 3:00 pm UST vs AdU
    Thursday, July 28: Philsports Complex - 1:00 pm AdU vs UE | 3:00 pm NU vs DLSU
    Saturday, July 30: Araneta Coliseum - 1:00 pm UP vs ADMU | 3:00 pm UST vs FEU
    Sunday, July 31: Philsports Complex - 1:00 pm DLSU vs UE | 3:00 pm AdU vs NU
    Thursday, August 4: Araneta Coliseum - 1:00 pm UP vs FEU | 3:00 pm ADMU vs UST
    Saturday, August 6: Araneta Coliseum - 1:00 pm UE vs NU | 3:00 pm DLSU vs AdU
    Sunday, August 7: Araneta Coliseum - 1:00 pm UST vs UP | 3:00 pm FEU vs ADMU
    Thursday, August 11: Araneta Coliseum - 1:00 pm UP vs AdU | 3:00 pm UST vs DLSU

GO LA SALLE! :D

with these schedules, i wonder if ABS CBN will be telecasting the games LIVE or on a delayed telecast, yan ksi ang habit ng ABS CBN hindi LIVE TELECAST ang games ksi tadtad ng commercials.

before its 2-6pm ang telecast over chanel 23 eh kung 1 pm ang start ng games this season, d 1 hr delayed telecast ang mapapanuod natin sa TV. Thats not good. dpat 1pm na din ang telecast para slightly delayed lng
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: puffalan84 on Jul 09, 2011 at 11:34 PM
Panu kaya gagawin nilang sched now that they also have PBA.. usually mga 5:30 to 6:00 natatapos ang 2nd game..

Let's go Letran Knights..

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jul 10, 2011 at 12:04 AM
I think they will air it starting at 1pm.. priority kasi talaga ng ABS yung UAAP at NCAA.. sariling production kasi nila yun unlike the PBA.. Sundays lang naman mag-aabot yung PBA at UAAP.. yung NCAA at PBA yung nagsasabay sa Wednesday and Friday and based on the first week, live yung NCAA and delayed yung PBA..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: brainwashed on Jul 10, 2011 at 05:36 PM
Feu beats La Salle.
Ateneo defeats Adamson.

I thought it was only Salamat who would be gone from the Ateneo line-up but it seems Buenafe is also gone, two of Ateneo's go-to-guys at crucial time. I guess it will not be a walk in the park for Ateneo after all.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Jul 10, 2011 at 06:44 PM
Good initial double-header ...... both close games & both revealed the same team characteristics as before.

FEU will almost always be among tops in the elimination phase ...... it's the Final Four where they need to redeem themselves. Last year's Finals was a huge meltdown.

DLSU again has a solid, quick-pressing team ..... same as FEU, they will contend.

ADAMSON still having issues closing out games against elite teams ..... ATENEO showing that defense wins out the close ones. That Norman Black defense is old school yet still effective in the amateurs.

Looking forward to the next set of games ..... specifically UST's Ferrer & NU's Ray Parks.

The last great UST rookie was years ago in G. Francisco. Let's hope Ferrer brings his MVP game into the seniors.

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jul 10, 2011 at 07:23 PM
Adamson couldn't score in the last 7 minutes of play. On defense alone, it seems like Ateneo is already on course for a 4-peat.

In Slaughter, I see shades of Ford Arao, but with better defense and 6 inches extra in height.

Ravena hasn't revealed himself yet as he got really gun-shy.

It does seem that, even without Salamat or Buenafe, the Blue Eagles is the team to beat in Season 74.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: dmaximus on Jul 10, 2011 at 08:12 PM
Adamson couldn't score in the last 7 minutes of play. On defense alone, it seems like Ateneo is already on course for a 4-peat.

In Slaughter, I see shades of Ford Arao, but with better defense and 6 inches extra in height.

Ravena hasn't revealed himself yet as he got really gun-shy.

It does seem that, even without Salamat or Buenafe, the Blue Eagles is the team to beat in Season 74.
Adamson should count the # of 3pt shot attempts they did in the 2nd half. 90% yata 3pts e. Sindak kay slaughter. ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 11, 2011 at 01:11 AM
AGAIN!!!
Too many times Adamson played Ateneo very well all throughout the game only to lose it come the last 2 mins.They just havent learned their mistakes and Coach Leo Austria just cant find the solution to have his team hang on for the win during crucial stages of their games against the Eagles.

FEU as i predicted will face Ateneo in this year's finals.
JR Cawalig was physically present last season but his soul was elsewhere.
He has to redeem himself this year.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Phobos on Jul 11, 2011 at 09:43 AM
I am not happy with the way Ateneo depended on Slaughter too much. That's just insecure basketball.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 11, 2011 at 10:02 AM
I am not happy with the way Ateneo depended on Slaughter too much. That's just insecure basketball.

dapat lng batakin na nila ng husto si Slaughter at this early stages of their tournament so he'll get more confidence come final four.
let him commit all his miscues early so he'll have time to improve as the season goes on.
remember they dont have Buenafe to go to this year during crucials stages of the game so others have to step up their games in they intend to defend their crown.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Phobos on Jul 11, 2011 at 12:03 PM
I'm going to disagree. He was in Gilas. I don't think his lack of confidence is the problem. I want to see Coach Norman utilize his other players and not just depend on Slaughter. Adamson was able to catch up whenever Slaughter's on the bench. And without Slaughter, I saw the Blue Eagles make clumsy plays coming of fastbreaks as if they thought that the only way they could score was to catch Adamson by surprise.

All I'm saying is, they're better than that. Slaughter's not the only scorer on the team.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Jul 11, 2011 at 12:38 PM
Slaughter is a walking mismatch, hence Black is utilizing him early on ...... anytime you get a guy that tall with decent hands & decent offense - you use him as much as possible.

He'll have his fair share of hiccups being a "rookie" to the UAAP ..... but once he get's the hang of it, he will make the game a lot easier for his teammates.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 11, 2011 at 01:43 PM
Slaughter is a walking mismatch, hence Black is utilizing him early on ...... anytime you get a guy that tall with decent hands & decent offense - you use him as much as possible.

He'll have his fair share of hiccups being a "rookie" to the UAAP ..... but once he get's the hang of it, he will make the game a lot easier for his teammates.

Proper execution is needed to maximize the strength and height of Slaughter.
Pick and Rolls, Drives and Draws those are the plays Ateneo needs to perfect. guards, off guards, small forwards that can penetrate luring oppsing teams defenders at them then set up her giant for an easy undergoal stab those plays will the Eagles unbeatable.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Jul 11, 2011 at 02:01 PM
^ Yup .... and Black is a good-enough coach to know these things (see early success of Slaughter via pick-rolls with Monfort ) ..... Black has always been a very good big-man coach.

I agree that it's imperative that they break-in Slaughter now while it's early ..... games will get a lot tighter as the finish approaches & top-2 slots are within sight.



Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 11, 2011 at 02:44 PM
^ Yup .... and Black is a good-enough coach to know these things (see early success of Slaughter via pick-rolls with Monfort ) ..... Black has always been a very good big-man coach.

I agree that it's imperative that they break-in Slaughter now while it's early ..... games will get a lot tighter as the finish approaches & top-2 slots are within sight.





yes Black always wants a big men's team. he always wants a big man who can deliver down low plus another big man who can clean up the garbage and defend down low.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jul 13, 2011 at 03:33 PM
Feu beats La Salle.
Ateneo defeats Adamson.

I thought it was only Salamat who would be gone from the Ateneo line-up but it seems Buenafe is also gone, two of Ateneo's go-to-guys at crucial time. I guess it will not be a walk in the park for Ateneo after all.

buenafe is gone for now because he is overweight

this is to me the worst way you get out of the line up, way lacking in discipline
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: puffalan84 on Jul 13, 2011 at 04:47 PM
buenafe is gone for now because he is overweight

this is to me the worst way you get out of the line up, way lacking in discipline

heard that Buenafe is going back to Baste, while Delacruz to Beda again..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: onedown on Jul 13, 2011 at 05:10 PM
i think buenafe has been having some difficulties coping up with his school's academic requirements.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 13, 2011 at 05:44 PM
i think buenafe has been having some difficulties coping up with his school's academic requirements.

its really between Buenafe and de la Cruz. may problema yun dalawa sa babae he he. . . .
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jul 13, 2011 at 06:16 PM
heard that Buenafe is going back to Baste, while Delacruz to Beda again..

Art Dela Cruz going back to San Beda is confirmed. He's practicing with them already.

There were rumors going around that Buenafe wanted to go back to Baste for a "fresh" start. But he's still in the ateneo atending to his classes.

The problem with Buenafe is, he's a genius at basketball but has never developed the work ethic to truly develop his full potential. Compared to Nico Salva who is a workhorse, we can see nico's development to a become a truly good forward and if not one of the best in the UAAP for his generation.

Also, I wouldn't worry about Ateneo's game against ADU. Admu always starts the season slow and arguably Adamson is quite good with a very underrated coach. We'll start seeing fluidity on the offensive plays and cohesiveness on defense.

I'm just gonna relax and watch how the season unfolds. I'm only gonna push the panic button if ateneo gets 3 losses already in the first round.  but until then, i'm just gonna enjoy the ride.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: brainwashed on Jul 13, 2011 at 07:01 PM
Art Dela Cruz going back to San Beda is confirmed. He's practicing with them already.

There were rumors going around that Buenafe wanted to go back to Baste for a "fresh" start. But he's still in the ateneo atending to his classes.

The problem with Buenafe is, he's a genius at basketball but has never developed the work ethic to truly develop his full potential. Compared to Nico Salva who is a workhorse, we can see his development to a very good forward and if not one of the best in the UAAP for his generation.

Also, I wouldn't worry about Ateneo's game against ADU. Admu always starts the season slow and arguably Adamson is quite good with a very underrated coach. We'll start seeing fluidity on the offensive plays and cohesiveness on defense.

I'm just gonna relax and watch how the season unfolds. I'm only gonna push the panic button if ateneo gets 3 losses already in the first round.  but until then, i'm just gonna enjoy the ride.

Salamat, Buenafe, Dela Cruz. Three players who are not afraid to shoot. Three players who are not afraid to drive into the painted area. Three players who can post-up. Three players who are not afraid to go head-to-head and toe-to-toe with the opposing player. These are not minor losses, these are big losses.

Salva has a decent outside shot. But he's not that good a post-up player nor does he have an explosive first step which will allow him to leave his guard behind. He doesn't even have the heft to overpower those who guard him. What he has is the "yabang" and self-confidence to do good.

Kirk Long has his days but not on a steady basis. Chua is good offensively but is not intimidating defensively. Monfort will not back down from anybody. The other players have been contented in the roles they play. And with the entry of Slaughter and Ravena, they might even be more contented playing second-fiddle to them.

Their real test probably would come from FEU's in-your-face defense and La Salle's pesky full-court press.

Ateneo may be a contender but definitely not a shoo-in!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jul 13, 2011 at 09:51 PM
Art Dela Cruz going back to San Beda is confirmed. He's practicing with them already.

There were rumors going around that Buenafe wanted to go back to Baste for a "fresh" start. But he's still in the ateneo atending to his classes.

The problem with Buenafe is, he's a genius at basketball but has never developed the work ethic to truly develop his full potential. Compared to Nico Salva who is a workhorse, we can see nico's development to a become a truly good forward and if not one of the best in the UAAP for his generation.

Also, I wouldn't worry about Ateneo's game against ADU. Admu always starts the season slow and arguably Adamson is quite good with a very underrated coach. We'll start seeing fluidity on the offensive plays and cohesiveness on defense.

I'm just gonna relax and watch how the season unfolds. I'm only gonna push the panic button if ateneo gets 3 losses already in the first round.  but until then, i'm just gonna enjoy the ride.

who is this art dela cruz? is he related to the art dela cruz the PBA player and assistant coach?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: brainwashed on Jul 13, 2011 at 10:07 PM
who is this art dela cruz? is he related to the art dela cruz the PBA player and assistant coach?

actually it should be arthur dela cruz. he is the son of art dela cruz.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/technopinoy/4808112543/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/technopinoy/4808112543/)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Jul 14, 2011 at 11:14 AM
If San Beda has Sudan, and Ateneo has Slaughter, look who FEU got!  Lakas ng FEU ;D

(http://www.voxbikol.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/400xY/KobeInManila.jpg)

(http://sports.inquirer.net/files/2011/07/kbmanila.jpg)

Dahil lockout sa NBA, e sa FEU na muna maglalaro si Black Mamba! 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 14, 2011 at 01:47 PM
Art Dela Cruz going back to San Beda is confirmed. He's practicing with them already.

There were rumors going around that Buenafe wanted to go back to Baste for a "fresh" start. But he's still in the ateneo atending to his classes.

The problem with Buenafe is, he's a genius at basketball but has never developed the work ethic to truly develop his full potential. Compared to Nico Salva who is a workhorse, we can see nico's development to a become a truly good forward and if not one of the best in the UAAP for his generation.

Also, I wouldn't worry about Ateneo's game against ADU. Admu always starts the season slow and arguably Adamson is quite good with a very underrated coach. We'll start seeing fluidity on the offensive plays and cohesiveness on defense.

I'm just gonna relax and watch how the season unfolds. I'm only gonna push the panic button if ateneo gets 3 losses already in the first round.  but until then, i'm just gonna enjoy the ride.

but Ryan has the heart of a Champion, he's cool under pressure and always deliver when his team needed him most, look at what he did last year against FEU in the finals. binuhat nya un team Ateneo. i also remembered the up and under hang time move he did when they were down against dindo pumaren's UE w/c he also won for the eagles.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Wiggum on Jul 14, 2011 at 10:40 PM
Panalo UP!  Next stop: Final Four.  ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jul 15, 2011 at 12:23 AM
but Ryan has the heart of a Champion, he's cool under pressure and always deliver when his team needed him most, look at what he did last year against FEU in the finals. binuhat nya un team Ateneo. i also remembered the up and under hang time move he did when they were down against dindo pumaren's UE w/c he also won for the eagles.

No doubt he has the heart of a champion. Him sitting out this year is a big loss definitely.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jul 15, 2011 at 12:31 AM
Salamat, Buenafe, Dela Cruz. Three players who are not afraid to shoot. Three players who are not afraid to drive into the painted area. Three players who can post-up. Three players who are not afraid to go head-to-head and toe-to-toe with the opposing player. These are not minor losses, these are big losses.

Salva has a decent outside shot. But he's not that good a post-up player nor does he have an explosive first step which will allow him to leave his guard behind. He doesn't even have the heft to overpower those who guard him. What he has is the "yabang" and self-confidence to do good.

Kirk Long has his days but not on a steady basis. Chua is good offensively but is not intimidating defensively. Monfort will not back down from anybody. The other players have been contented in the roles they play. And with the entry of Slaughter and Ravena, they might even be more contented playing second-fiddle to them.

Their real test probably would come from FEU's in-your-face defense and La Salle's pesky full-court press.

Ateneo may be a contender but definitely not a shoo-in!

Yes those three are big losses to the team. They bring swagger and elevates the whole team's performance. If art and buenafe were still with the team, i would have said just hand the trophy to them. As seen in the adamson game the second unit didnt contribute to the points production! 8 pts. Only! Art was quite good off the bench, providing quality minutes right away.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jul 15, 2011 at 12:45 AM
Buenafe is a closer, somethibg that Ray Parks would need to learn.

Buenafat also has high basketball IQ and awareness, something that Ravena needs to demonstrate in the UAAP.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 15, 2011 at 09:52 AM
Buenafe is a closer, somethibg that Ray Parks would need to learn.

Buenafat also has high basketball IQ and awareness, something that Ravena needs to demonstrate in the UAAP.

He always looked over weight, mukhang wala sa condition, ang bagal kumilos, but somehow i just dont know why he always gets the job done when the game was on the line. he's more of mental toughness, buo ang loob.

i just feel with his barrelling drives, he could be the best feeder for Slaughter kung ksama sna sya sa line up this season.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Jul 15, 2011 at 10:33 AM
Agree with above posts ..... Ryan Buenafe has good basketball sense & has that mental toughness about him. Plus for someone with that huge build, he sure has decent mobility & handling.

It could be a sad story should the kid ignore his conditioning ..... he looks like he'll be a decent pro someday.

I'm kinda reminded of a similar case ..... Gerard Francisco from some years back. The guy had a similar build & skillset with Buenafe, but was a tad bit more mobile & was a much better shooter.

Francisco had a decent pro career, even lead his team to it's first 'chip. However, the guy had very poor conditioning & was disinterested in training ..... hence his pro career didn't last that long.

A good friend was a PBA team PT for many years & can attest to this (he also confirms that Marlou Aquino was president of the All-Lazy team).


Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Jul 15, 2011 at 11:16 AM
Agree with above posts ..... Ryan Buenafe has good basketball sense & has that mental toughness about him. Plus for someone with that huge build, he sure has decent mobility & handling.

It could be a sad story should the kid ignore his conditioning ..... he looks like he'll be a decent pro someday.

I'm kinda reminded of a similar case ..... Gerard Francisco from some years back. The guy had a similar build & skillset with Buenafe, but was a tad bit more mobile & was a much better shooter.

Francisco had a decent pro career, even lead his team to it's first 'chip. However, the guy had very poor conditioning & was disinterested in training ..... hence his pro career didn't last that long.

A good friend was a PBA team PT for many years & can attest to this (he also confirms that Marlou Aquino was president of the All-Lazy team).




Conditioning is key.  The Big J, at age 40+, was still banging bodies with the younger players.  One of his players Joey Loyzaga told me that "Tatang", as Jawo was called, might be a few steps behind but no one in the Ginebra team can outpace their coach.  Grabe daw talaga ang conditioning. 

On the contrary, one of the best players of San Miguel Yves Dignadice was Norman Black's first five.  But Black always complained that Yves would show up for practice with a hangover and no sleep from previous night's partying.  Sometimes, Yves will drive to the practice venue and sleep in the car, in time for their practice for the day.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 15, 2011 at 02:01 PM
UST's win over NU is quite a moral booster for Pido Jarencio's Tigers.
Actually they have a decent starting unit that can compete w/ the best this season.
Fortuna, Teng, Ferrer, Camus, plus the IMPORT.
but their bench is quite shallow w/ Pe, and Afuang as their reliables.

NU played a decent game. almost won it, Parks better be ready for a tougher competition ahead of him as teams will certainly focus their defenses and clogged down on him to frustrate his game.

UP has improved under the Lipa mentored Ricky Dandan's watchful eyes.

UE probably the only team that is ALL-Filipino could the this year's cellar dwellers.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jul 16, 2011 at 09:15 PM
Kiefer Ravena with a monster first half against DLSU today.  He looked like he was ready to jump to the pros on that one game alone.

La Salle must be regretting not keeping him way back in grade school.

Replay later at 10pm @ Balls.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: brainwashed on Jul 16, 2011 at 10:50 PM
Kiefer Ravena with a monster first half against DLSU today.  He looked like he was ready to jump to the pros on that one game alone.

La Salle must be regretting not keeping him way back in grade school.

Replay later at 10pm @ Balls.

It was indeed a spectacular first half by Kiefer Ravena, but what struck me most was how vulnerable Ateneo's second team is. Chua, Golla, Austria, Sumalinog and Tiongson. If the low post plays of Chua are not successful, where do they get their points? Except perhaps for Tiongson, who can drive to the basket, none of the other players can create their own plays. And this was definitely shown in the second quarter and at the start of the fourth by La Salle. It was good, though that Black was quick to react and adjust.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 17, 2011 at 09:06 AM
Man for man Adamson seems to be the toughest match up for the Eagles. Mamang mama ang dating ng mga players wlang Totoy. They just have to find a remedy to close out games since they really play touch for 35 mins then the usual collapse in the end game, its more on mental toughness and composure during end games that the Falcons should learn.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: brainwashed on Jul 17, 2011 at 09:52 AM
Man for man Adamson seems to be the toughest match up for the Eagles. Mamang mama ang dating ng mga players wlang Totoy. They just have to find a remedy to close out games since they really play touch for 35 mins then the usual collapse in the end game, its more on mental toughness and composure during end games that the Falcons should learn.

But they were tough and composed against the Tamaraws yesterday even when FEU lowered the deficit to 7 points with around 7 minutes left, the same situation they were in against Ateneo.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 17, 2011 at 10:58 AM
But they were tough and composed against the Tamaraws yesterday even when FEU lowered the deficit to 7 points with around 7 minutes left, the same situation they were in against Ateneo.

too many times befoer they have the game in control against Ateneo only to lose it in the last 2mins becoz they just cant score on clutch baskets and just watch their lead overwhelmed by Ateneo's aggressive end game.
they have to learn to play to win and not play not to lose.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: brainwashed on Jul 17, 2011 at 01:50 PM
too many times befoer they have the game in control against Ateneo only to lose it in the last 2mins becoz they just cant score on clutch baskets and just watch their lead overwhelmed by Ateneo's aggressive end game.
they have to learn to play to win and not play not to lose.

their game against feu is an indication that they know how to play to win and not just play not to lose. perhaps their losing streak to Ateneo plays havoc on their playing minds!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 17, 2011 at 01:58 PM
we'll see if they can finally beat Ateneo in the 2nd round, if i'm not mistaken they are 0-15 against Ateneo since Coach Leo Austria took over.
Most of those games they could have won pero laging sayang in the end as they always end up losing.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: puffalan84 on Jul 17, 2011 at 02:09 PM
if Buenafe is still with Ateneo, why Austria is wearing no. 13?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: brainwashed on Jul 17, 2011 at 06:32 PM
if Buenafe is still with Ateneo, why Austria is wearing no. 13?

Buenafe does not own the rights to Ateneo's jersey no. 13. Since he is currently out of the line-up then Austria can wear it.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: brainwashed on Jul 17, 2011 at 06:35 PM
I watched the first few minutes of the UP-NU game but turned the tv off. Medyo larong buko e. hehe
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: leomarley on Jul 17, 2011 at 06:47 PM
UST wins!

go USTe! ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: dencio105 on Jul 17, 2011 at 06:52 PM
Yes go USTE!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 18, 2011 at 07:26 AM
I watched the first few minutes of the UP-NU game but turned the tv off. Medyo larong buko e. hehe

almost all teams except Ateneo (Slow deliberate PBA style) plays the run and gun type of game kya expect lots of turn overs.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: brainwashed on Jul 18, 2011 at 07:00 PM
almost all teams except Ateneo (Slow deliberate PBA style) plays the run and gun type of game kya expect lots of turn overs.

Even if most teams play the  run-and-gun type of game, there is still a semblance of order in the plays. Maybe I'm just biased, maybe I just expect more from UP but it seems that every time I get to watch them play, I see botched play after botched play and players not knowing what to do inside the court. Sabi nga e 'pinabili lang ng suka'. But it's fun watching how the other teams are affected by their play!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jul 18, 2011 at 08:36 PM
UP didn't play that bad against NU.. panget nga simula nila but they regrouped toward the end of the 1st quarter.. lamang pa nga sila after the 1st half.. that UP-NU game was actually better than the AdU-FEU game.. and UP is a much better team this year than they were the past 3 seasons or so..

dati, if they start the game down 1-14, tuloy na yung tambakan.. kahapon, they just settled down, ran their plays and got aggressive on defense at nakabawi na sila.. they were just down 5 with a little over 2 mins to play.. kulang lang talaga sila sa tao.. no legit go-to guy.. dinadaan lang nila sa energy eh.. but if they could sustain that high energy the entire game, they can upset some of the better teams this season..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 19, 2011 at 12:14 AM
Even if most teams play the  run-and-gun type of game, there is still a semblance of order in the plays. Maybe I'm just biased, maybe I just expect more from UP but it seems that every time I get to watch them play, I see botched play after botched play and players not knowing what to do inside the court. Sabi nga e 'pinabili lang ng suka'. But it's fun watching how the other teams are affected by their play!

in short larong buko he he if this kind of trend continues lamang ang UST coz they can really shoot the lights out
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jul 19, 2011 at 12:47 AM
you guys should watch the NCAA.. halos lahat ng teams dun parang walang plays.. you see one possession after another na isang player lang humahawak ng bola.. coast to coast pero di naman tumatama sa ring yung tira.. yung ibang team naman, 5 straight posessions, tres lang tinitira.. offensive rebound na pwede na i-putback, nilalabas pa para sa tres.. 1st quarter pa lang yan.. ang sakit sa mata panoorin..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: jhelenz on Jul 19, 2011 at 02:51 AM
you guys should watch the NCAA.. halos lahat ng teams dun parang walang plays.. you see one possession after another na isang player lang humahawak ng bola.. coast to coast pero di naman tumatama sa ring yung tira.. yung ibang team naman, 5 straight posessions, tres lang tinitira.. offensive rebound na pwede na i-putback, nilalabas pa para sa tres.. 1st quarter pa lang yan.. ang sakit sa mata panoorin..
masakit pala sa mata,di na lang ako manonood  ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: puffalan84 on Jul 19, 2011 at 09:32 AM
you guys should watch the NCAA.. halos lahat ng teams dun parang walang plays.. you see one possession after another na isang player lang humahawak ng bola.. coast to coast pero di naman tumatama sa ring yung tira.. yung ibang team naman, 5 straight posessions, tres lang tinitira.. offensive rebound na pwede na i-putback, nilalabas pa para sa tres.. 1st quarter pa lang yan.. ang sakit sa mata panoorin..

sorry to disagree as hindi naman halos lahat ng games sir, meron lang talagang teams na sobrang nag rerely sa talent and this usually happen sa mga new Teams especially when they're down by 10 or more..

Try  to appreciate also the defense, look at how Beda plays and I hate to say this, their offense is so-so this year but the defense is just really good..  (sorry Bedans) coz I think compare to Baste you don't really have that much talent this year on offense unlike 3 years ago.

 Try watching well coached teams like Baste (ouch), Mapua, Beda, and of course my Letran Knights, these teams are really watchable and and I believe they can match up well with the big guns of UAAP.  :)

Letran vs. Baste on Wednesday 4PM..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 19, 2011 at 09:37 AM
you guys should watch the NCAA.. halos lahat ng teams dun parang walang plays.. you see one possession after another na isang player lang humahawak ng bola.. coast to coast pero di naman tumatama sa ring yung tira.. yung ibang team naman, 5 straight posessions, tres lang tinitira.. offensive rebound na pwede na i-putback, nilalabas pa para sa tres.. 1st quarter pa lang yan.. ang sakit sa mata panoorin..

sobra na ksi fundamentally sound mga players ngaun eh, they seem to be injected w/ too much scientific knowledge at their young age kya un gigil na gigil he he. . .
they're taught to play w/ a lot of hassle and be very aggressive and these hassles produces turn overs and errors kya masakit tlga sa mata watching games with lots of errors and turnovers due to the hassles of the players.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 19, 2011 at 09:44 AM
sorry to disagree as hindi naman halos lahat ng games sir, meron lang talagang teams na sobrang nag rerely sa talent and this usually happen sa mga new Teams especially when they're down by 10 or more..

Try  to appreciate also the defense, look at how Beda plays and I hate to say this, their offense is so-so this year but the defense is just really good..  (sorry Bedans) coz I think compare to Baste you don't really have that much talent this year on offense unlike 3 years ago.

 Try watching well coached teams like Baste (ouch), Mapua, Beda, and of course my Letran Knights, these teams are really watchable and and I believe they can match up well with the big guns of UAAP.  :)

Letran vs. Baste on Wednesday 4PM..

adding insult to injury, i guess San Beda was/ is never good enough playing w/o an IMPORT.
even in previous years they wouldnt have beaten LETRAN all Filipino.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Phobos on Jul 19, 2011 at 10:48 AM
To that bald ref who officiated that Ateneo-DLSU game last Saturday: SCREW YOU BALDYMORT BURN IN HELL! (http://www.philstar.com/SportsHub/UAAPSeason74/UAAPArticle.aspx?publicationSubCategoryId=69&articleId=707648)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: brainwashed on Jul 19, 2011 at 07:02 PM
To that bald ref who officiated that Ateneo-DLSU game last Saturday: SCREW YOU BALDYMORT BURN IN HELL! (http://www.philstar.com/SportsHub/UAAPSeason74/UAAPArticle.aspx?publicationSubCategoryId=69&articleId=707648)

I assume, sir, based on the colors of your stars, that you are for Ateneo! I would have liked to add that he suffer the same fate as his namesake but that is too much to wish upon any person. So I'll just leave it to you. You said it well!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jul 20, 2011 at 02:54 AM
To that bald ref who officiated that Ateneo-DLSU game last Saturday: SCREW YOU BALDYMORT BURN IN HELL! (http://www.philstar.com/SportsHub/UAAPSeason74/UAAPArticle.aspx?publicationSubCategoryId=69&articleId=707648)

He got suspended for the entire 1st round:

http://www.malaya.com.ph/july19/sports4.html
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: dmaximus on Jul 20, 2011 at 05:48 AM
if Buenafe is still with Ateneo, why Austria is wearing no. 13?

buenafe is not in the line up anymore. heard there was a scandal that led to ateneo cutting him off.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 20, 2011 at 07:22 AM
buenafe is not in the line up anymore. heard there was a scandal that led to ateneo cutting him off.

buenafe and de la cruz feud got them both out of the Ateneo line up for good.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Phobos on Jul 20, 2011 at 08:43 AM
I assume, sir, based on the colors of your stars, that you are for Ateneo! I would have liked to add that he suffer the same fate as his namesake but that is too much to wish upon any person. So I'll just leave it to you. You said it well!

Actually the stars indicate that I'm a mod, but yeah I am for Ateneo.

He got suspended for the entire 1st round:

http://www.malaya.com.ph/july19/sports4.html

JUSTICE!

buenafe and de la cruz feud got them both out of the Ateneo line up for good.

Care to elaborate? And if you could cite sources, that would be appreciated. All I heard was he flunked his subjects.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Waxx on Jul 20, 2011 at 08:52 AM

Care to elaborate? And if you could cite sources, that would be appreciated. All I heard was he flunked his subjects.

there are no news sources re this, but online forums are buzzing with talks that he (buenafe) was accused with raping art dela cruz's gf...

from what ive personally heard/read may version na yung gf daw ang lumapit kay ryan nung nag away sila ni art... may version naman na nagiinuman sila and may flirting daw between the gf and ryan.. may version din na break na si art and the gf when this happened, and gawa gawa lang to ni art (propaganda) para siraan si ryan..

daming versions no? parang dvd?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: puffalan84 on Jul 20, 2011 at 10:03 AM
there are no news sources re this, but online forums are buzzing with talks that he (buenafe) was accused with raping art dela cruz's gf...

from what ive personally heard/read may version na yung gf daw ang lumapit kay ryan nung nag away sila ni art... may version naman na nagiinuman sila and may flirting daw between the gf and ryan.. may version din na break na si art and the gf when this happened, and gawa gawa lang to ni art (propaganda) para siraan si ryan..

daming versions no? parang dvd?

 all because of a girl.. wow..

OT. I don't know if it's just me, but parang only this year that rookies who were great in Juniors are excelling also in Seniors, karamihan kasi before are busts.. very few ang success transitions like Ritualo, Tenorio..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 20, 2011 at 12:20 PM
all because of a girl.. wow..

OT. I don't know if it's just me, but parang only this year that rookies who were great in Juniors are excelling also in Seniors, karamihan kasi before are busts.. very few ang success transitions like Ritualo, Tenorio..

pinatos ba namn un gf ng teammate d of course they both cant be part of that team anymore.
masisira pa un chemistry ng team if both are still included
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: vinci on Jul 20, 2011 at 12:25 PM
pinatos ba namn un gf ng teammate d of course they both cant be part of that team anymore.
masisira pa un chemistry ng team if both are still included

ganyan ka seryoso siguro talaga ang basketball program ng ateneo. kahit gano ka pa kagaling, kung may problema sayo personal man or sa academics..aalisin ka nila..pwede pa naman sila mag develop ng ibang players.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 20, 2011 at 03:24 PM
ganyan ka seryoso siguro talaga ang basketball program ng ateneo. kahit gano ka pa kagaling, kung may problema sayo personal man or sa academics..aalisin ka nila..pwede pa naman sila mag develop ng ibang players.

Ateneo is lucky to have recruited Slaughter and able to convince Ravena to stay otherwise w/o Buenafe and de la Cruz, they may just kiss their hopes for a 4peat goodbye.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jul 20, 2011 at 03:40 PM
Actually the stars indicate that I'm a mod, but yeah I am for Ateneo.

JUSTICE!

Care to elaborate? And if you could cite sources, that would be appreciated. All I heard was he flunked his subjects.

i thought it was becasue he was overweight?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Jul 20, 2011 at 03:52 PM
ganyan ka seryoso siguro talaga ang basketball program ng ateneo. kahit gano ka pa kagaling, kung may problema sayo personal man or sa academics..aalisin ka nila..pwede pa naman sila mag develop ng ibang players.

It's because of an alleged serious charge vs buenafe, yes.  And from what i heard, Ateneo asked him to go so buenafe "voluntarily" left the team.  So at least for the record, he was not technically removed from the squad.  In return, they were able to convince the girl not to press charges anymore. 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 20, 2011 at 04:07 PM
It's because of an alleged serious charge vs buenafe, yes.  And from what i heard, Ateneo asked him to go so buenafe "voluntarily" left the team.  So at least for the record, he was not technically removed from the squad.  In return, they were able to convince the girl not to press charges anymore. 

ganun? perhaps thats the consolation he got for giving Ateneo a triple crown during his 3 yr tenure.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: puffalan84 on Jul 20, 2011 at 04:45 PM
ganun? perhaps thats the consolation he got for giving Ateneo a triple crown during his 3 yr tenure.
sayang, used to follow this kid nung nasa baste jUniors pa sya together with bringas who played for La Salle but I heard will be playing with Baste again after completing his 1 year residency.. they were unbeatable then..
Buenafe was on the same level as Ritualo during his Beda times.. 

anyway, from what we all saw last weekend, mukhang Ateneo and Adamson are the teams to beat this year..

and Parks' shooting stroke? simply amazing, parang ang dali..  :) 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: brainwashed on Jul 20, 2011 at 05:58 PM
Actually the stars indicate that I'm a mod, but yeah I am for Ateneo.


yes sir, I know you are a mod.
Your stars are blue but they could have been colored green which would have then led me to think you were for La Salle.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 21, 2011 at 12:11 AM
sayang, used to follow this kid nung nasa baste jUniors pa sya together with bringas who played for La Salle but I heard will be playing with Baste again after completing his 1 year residency.. they were unbeatable then..
Buenafe was on the same level as Ritualo during his Beda times..  

anyway, from what we all saw last weekend, mukhang Ateneo and Adamson are the teams to beat this year..

and Parks' shooting stroke? simply amazing, parang ang dali..  :)  

mas bagay si Buenafe and Bringas sa NCAA where its more of individual talents in display compared to UAAP w/c i feel is more systematic team play.
parang nakakadena si Ryan dto sa UAAP pigil un laro nya just to fit into Ateneo's system but no doubt he proved too many times that his talents excels above them all during crunch time.

Ray Parks Jr is indeed a fine shooter. Yes ang ganda ng strokes nya, but he still has to develop those slashing power drives na may pasabit para foul counted just like how his father played in the PBA before.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jul 21, 2011 at 05:49 AM
It's because of an alleged serious charge vs buenafe, yes.  And from what i heard, Ateneo asked him to go so buenafe "voluntarily" left the team.  So at least for the record, he was not technically removed from the squad.  In return, they were able to convince the girl not to press charges anymore. 

And Buenafe is not permanently out of the team yet.  He can still crack the lineup next year.

The Ateneo did not ask him to go, nor did they ask the girl "not to press charges".
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: pa3ck608 on Jul 21, 2011 at 10:23 AM
sayang, used to follow this kid nung nasa baste jUniors pa sya together with bringas who played for La Salle but I heard will be playing with Baste again after completing his 1 year residency.. they were unbeatable then..
Buenafe was on the same level as Ritualo during his Beda times.. 

anyway, from what we all saw last weekend, mukhang Ateneo and Adamson are the teams to beat this year..

and Parks' shooting stroke? simply amazing, parang ang dali..  :) 

i still remember how dominant the cubs were when ren-ren, jenkins mesina, mike bravo ang jomalesa were playing together, tapos off the bench si xavier nunag. they were so dominant, never threathened in any game. 1st half pa lng 30+ na ang lamang sa kalaban. ibang klase talaga ang cubs, farm team ng uaap seniors  ;D

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jul 22, 2011 at 01:13 AM
i still remember how dominant the cubs were when ren-ren, jenkins mesina, mike bravo ang jomalesa were playing together, tapos off the bench si xavier nunag. they were so dominant, never threathened in any game. 1st half pa lng 30+ na ang lamang sa kalaban. ibang klase talaga ang cubs, farm team ng uaap seniors  ;D



Thanks to Ato Badolato.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: vinci on Jul 30, 2011 at 06:27 PM
nagkalat na naman uste...haba pa ng oras ubos na timeout...okay din yung tolomia ng feu
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: brainwashed on Jul 30, 2011 at 07:00 PM
Tinalo ng UP ang Ateneo!!!

sa 1st quarter nga lang. hehe
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: -sniper- on Jul 30, 2011 at 09:28 PM
nagkalat na naman uste...

a won game lost.... >:(
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jul 31, 2011 at 05:21 PM
Altamirano finally realized that he has to involve Mbe in his offensive plays for them to have a chance at winning.. tamang tama lang at against Adamson niya ito ginawa..

so far, it looks like only Ateneo is sure to make the Final Four.. the remaining 3 slots will be a dog fight between FEU, Adamson, La Salle, UST and NU..

La Salle seems to be getting their rhythm but I think it also has to do with being up against struggling teams (UP, NU, UE).. if they beat Adamson next Saturday, the favorites better take notice.. FEU and Adamson, so far, have been playing to the level of their opponents.. kung mahina kalaban, they get overconfident and cocky.. kaya pagnaunahan, nagkukumahog maghabol.. kapag natsambahan sila by teams like UP and UE, yari sila..

maganda rin pala laban sa last place.. UP at UE.. ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jul 31, 2011 at 09:23 PM
a won game lost.... >:(

I still maintain my opinion on Pido. His team is composed of prolific 3pt. shooters and a workhorse in camus but his decisions as a tactician / strategist is still questionable. He may be a good motivator / comedian but as a good coach.... :D He used up all his timeouts with around 3 or 4min left in the game. He still persistently fielded in kevin ferrer when FEU was catching up. The turnovers in the last 3 or 4 possession of UST in the last 3 min to 2nd min could have been prevented with a good play in breaking the press FEU was applying.

He won 2006 against Ateneo in the championship bec. he had good wing players in Jojo Duncil, and Dylan Ababou. Jervy Cruz was a good force in the paint. That was a fluke and will never be repeated again. Kevin ferrer may blossom but still quite raw as can be seen in yesterday's game.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: -sniper- on Aug 01, 2011 at 11:17 AM
the finishing kick has always been the problem of UST since pido took over. they always crumble during the last five minutes of each of their games. they won't reach the Final Four if they play that way.

yes, pido may be a good motivator. but it seems that he does not know which buttons to push when the going gets tough, especially during end game. motivation is one thing. player rotation, however, is an entirely different animal.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: blackie on Aug 01, 2011 at 12:50 PM
Does anyone know how much good seats will cost to watch the games at Araneta?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Aug 01, 2011 at 12:59 PM
Does anyone know how much good seats will cost to watch the games at Araneta?

Patron and Lower Box are the good seats in Araneta. If you get Upper A, the very first three rows would still be ok.

Patron = Php300 (i think)
Lower Box = Php250(or could be 300 and Patron would be Php350 already).
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Aug 01, 2011 at 01:08 PM
Patron and Lower Box are the good seats in Araneta. If you get Upper A, the very first three rows would still be ok.

Patron = Php300 (i think)
Lower Box = Php250(or could be 300 and Patron would be Php350 already).


During Eliminations, tickets would be pretty much in this range.  However, come Championship, alam ko nagmamahal na. 

To be sure you can check out Ticketnet at araneta :  http://www.ticketnet.com.ph/2006/index.php (http://www.ticketnet.com.ph/2006/index.php)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: blackie on Aug 01, 2011 at 01:26 PM
Thanks Questforthegoodlife and Mattia,

Appreciate the replies.  Will try to catch Ateneo/UST this Thursday if schedule permits ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Aug 01, 2011 at 06:42 PM
I still maintain my opinion on Pido. His team is composed of prolific 3pt. shooters and a workhorse in camus but his decisions as a tactician / strategist is still questionable. He may be a good motivator / comedian but as a good coach.... :D He used up all his timeouts with around 3 or 4min left in the game. He still persistently fielded in kevin ferrer when FEU was catching up. The turnovers in the last 3 or 4 possession of UST in the last 3 min to 2nd min could have been prevented with a good play in breaking the press FEU was applying.

He won 2006 against Ateneo in the championship bec. he had good wing players in Jojo Duncil, and Dylan Ababou. Jervy Cruz was a good force in the paint. That was a fluke and will never be repeated again. Kevin ferrer may blossom but still quite raw as can be seen in yesterday's game.

i had the chance to watch camus and with my little undertsnading of basketball. this guy is a very good talent, tall and fast and with a fighting heart.

yung mga player ng USTE naghihirap lumamang kaso pag nag habol na kalaban, yung diskarte ng coach ang susundin kaya ayun sablay.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 03, 2011 at 06:43 PM
i forecast FEU to play Ateneo in the finals but is Ramos and Cawalig play the way they're playing recently, mukhang sablay prediction ko.
Lelembot lembot ksi un 2 main mans ng FEU, buti pa si Tolomia kht rookie at maliit he plays aggressively at buo ang loob.
mukhang napasama un pag sali ni Ramos at Cawalig sa Smart Gilas coz now they're playing out of position.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Aug 03, 2011 at 07:22 PM
i had the chance to watch camus and with my little undertsnading of basketball. this guy is a very good talent, tall and fast and with a fighting heart.

yung mga player ng USTE naghihirap lumamang kaso pag nag habol na kalaban, yung diskarte ng coach ang susundin kaya ayun sablay.

Yes, camus is very good. I expect Nico Salva and Chris Camus to rough it up tomorrow.

Not sure if anybody can confirm this, but i'll pay more attention during the timeouts and coach pido "orchestrates" a play. Somebody pointed out this in another forum - "O, ____ bigay mo ung bola kay ____ at siya na bahala dumiskarte" what the hell!?!?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Aug 04, 2011 at 03:11 AM
Pido did a play like this against Ateneo in the finals. He basically told Duncil "Ikaw na bahala, Jojo" or something to that effect.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 04, 2011 at 11:25 AM
Yes, camus is very good. I expect Nico Salva and Chris Camus to rough it up tomorrow.

Not sure if anybody can confirm this, but i'll pay more attention during the timeouts and coach pido "orchestrates" a play. Somebody pointed out this in another forum - "O, ____ bigay mo ung bola kay ____ at siya na bahala dumiskarte" what the hell!?!?

i'm sure all coaches give freedom to their main man when its crunch time.
Bigay mu un bola kay MJ sya na bahala db?
Question is, if that player has the heart to put in the BIG SHOTS, he will deliver.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Aug 04, 2011 at 02:24 PM
Lamang ang UP ng 12 points 7 minutes left in the game.  And they're doing this against FEU, a pre-season favorite.

I hope they pull off the upset.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Wiggum on Aug 04, 2011 at 02:58 PM
^ Final score: UP 76, FEU 63.  ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Aug 04, 2011 at 04:28 PM
^ Final score: UP 76, FEU 63.  ;D

GALING NAMAN ;D  Walang pasok sa UP bukas? ;D 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Wiggum on Aug 04, 2011 at 05:23 PM
^ More like, walang papasok bukas.  :)  Bawi na lang FEU on Sunday vs. ADMU.  Should be a good one.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Aug 05, 2011 at 01:09 AM
i'm sure all coaches give freedom to their main man when its crunch time.
Bigay mu un bola kay MJ sya na bahala db?
Question is, if that player has the heart to put in the BIG SHOTS, he will deliver.

i'm sure all coaches give freedom to their main man when its crunch time.
Bigay mu un bola kay MJ sya na bahala db?
Question is, if that player has the heart to put in the BIG SHOTS, he will deliver.

Of course coaches can give their franchise players isolation plays. However, bahala na si MJ play still operated under the triangle offense which was a counter to Detroit piston's "Jordan Defense" to shut MJ down. Kinda like what you see in NU with Bobby Ray Parks jr. Shut him down, you basically seal the game 50% in your favor. Unless Mbe steps up and another player also, then you have a fight on your hands.

Looking at the game earlier Pido gave too much freedom to fortuna! ;D less ball movement. it makes their offense quite predictable. Let fortuna score all day long shutdown everybody. Coach pido = Allan K. Comedian / motivator. A team that lives and dies by the three usually dies.

Answer to your question = the player may have the biggest heart to put in the big shots but if no plays or situations are created for him to make it then you just got a really good player with a big heart relying on pure athleticism and looking for a mismatch. Hence, the pba style (all heart, too much one on one plays ) fails at international basketball. Pang showtime lng.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Aug 05, 2011 at 02:42 AM
Hence, the pba style (all heart, too much one on one plays ) fails at international basketball. Pang showtime lng.

Sa totoo lang, hindi na siya showtime.   :(
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 08, 2011 at 12:17 AM
Big win by UST over UP.
Fortuna was solid. No wonder Pido has so much confidence on his point guard.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Aug 08, 2011 at 06:30 AM
And Ateneo pretty much proved they were truly unbeatable in the first round.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 08, 2011 at 08:49 AM
And Ateneo pretty much proved they were truly unbeatable in the first round.

complete dominance in the 1st round by the Eagles.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Wiggum on Aug 08, 2011 at 03:26 PM
Does the UAAP still give an automatic berth in the Finals for the team that sweeps the eliminations?  And if so, will it just be a semifinal match-up then between the 2nd and 3rd seeds?



 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Aug 08, 2011 at 04:00 PM
Ateneo seems to be cruising its way to the UAAP finals again.  With a powerhouse lineup in Slaughter and Ravena, mahirap talunin ang Ateneo.

The NCAA is more interesting with the Stags and San Beda having an identical 7-0 record.  Behind Abueva's triple double earlier this afternoon, the Stags beat gutsy Arellano and tied San Beda at the top.  Their next games will be on Wednesday against Mapua and JRU respectively.  Should they win and keep their clean slates, it will be a colossal battle on August 19 against the two rivaling schools.  These two teams met last year in the Finals and SBC won.    The Stags is seeking revenge while the Lions is trying to prove that, even without an import, they can beat the Stags!  Ayos na ayos to...
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 08, 2011 at 11:12 PM
Ateneo seems to be cruising its way to the UAAP finals again.  With a powerhouse lineup in Slaughter and Ravena, mahirap talunin ang Ateneo.

The NCAA is more interesting with the Stags and San Beda having an identical 7-0 record.  Behind Abueva's triple double earlier this afternoon, the Stags beat gutsy Arellano and tied San Beda at the top.  Their next games will be on Wednesday against Mapua and JRU respectively.  Should they win and keep their clean slates, it will be a colossal battle on August 19 against the two rivaling schools.  These two teams met last year in the Finals and SBC won.    The Stags is seeking revenge while the Lions is trying to prove that, even without an import, they can beat the Stags!  Ayos na ayos to...

expectations that Ateneo will win this season is sky high. no doubt they have the best talented rookies plus a great team.

as for the NCAA this is San Beda's best chance to prove to me that they can win the NCAA w/o a BIG BLACK American/Nigerian import.
and also the best chance for Frankie Lim to prove he's a good mentor, i sure if the Lions can win, it will be their sweetest.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Aug 08, 2011 at 11:50 PM
Does the UAAP still give an automatic berth in the Finals for the team that sweeps the eliminations?  And if so, will it just be a semifinal match-up then between the 2nd and 3rd seeds?

I'm not sure.  I think the practice now is for the team to get an outright finals seat (like a bye) and wait.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: vinci on Aug 09, 2011 at 02:04 AM
I'm not sure.  I think the practice now is for the team to get an outright finals seat (like a bye) and wait.

bigla ko naalala UE a few years ago. mas maganda pa yung semis kesa finals e.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Wiggum on Aug 09, 2011 at 08:56 AM
^ Ah yes.  Thanks for the lead.  In Season 70, UE swept the eliminations and was automatically seeded in the Finals.  Then there were stepladder games to determine the other Finalist (which was eventually DLSU, who bagged the crown that year).

Got this from Wikipedia:

If a team sweeps the elimination round:
 
Seed #1 advance to the Finals.
Seed #2 advance to the semifinals with the twice to beat advantage.
Teams #3 and #4 face off to meet #2 in the semifinals in a one-game playoff.
In the finals, the #1 seed only has to win twice, while the other opponent has to win thrice.


But anything can still happen in the second round this season.  :)

  
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: brainwashed on Aug 09, 2011 at 07:48 PM
^ Ah yes.  Thanks for the lead.  In Season 70, UE swept the eliminations and was automatically seeded in the Finals.  Then there were stepladder games to determine the other Finalist (which was eventually DLSU, who bagged the crown that year).

Got this from Wikipedia:

If a team sweeps the elimination round:
 
Seed #1 advance to the Finals.
Seed #2 advance to the semifinals with the twice to beat advantage.
Teams #3 and #4 face off to meet #2 in the semifinals in a one-game playoff.
In the finals, the #1 seed only has to win twice, while the other opponent has to win thrice.


But anything can still happen in the second round this season.  :)


tama ba ito? ???
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Wiggum on Aug 10, 2011 at 07:49 AM
tama ba ito? ???

Mukang tama, based on this 2008 article, when the UAAP changed the rules for sweeping the elims.

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/cebudailynews/sports/view/20080628-145227/Additional-incentive-for-UAAP-sweep

Parang best-of-three lang ang Finals for the sweeping team, while best-of-five for the other finalist.  Virtual champion na 'yung first finalist in this case.

 

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: brainwashed on Aug 10, 2011 at 08:33 AM
Mukang tama, based on this 2008 article, when the UAAP changed the rules for sweeping the elims.

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/cebudailynews/sports/view/20080628-145227/Additional-incentive-for-UAAP-sweep

Parang best-of-three lang ang Finals for the sweeping team, while best-of-five for the other finalist.  Virtual champion na 'yung first finalist in this case.


so if no team sweeps the elimination round, the finals is just a best-of-three series but if a team sweeps the elimination round, then the finals, technically, becomes a best-of-five with the team who swept the eliminations having a one game advantage? sounds illogical. ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: sardaukar on Aug 10, 2011 at 09:27 AM
Parang twice to beat advantage pero plus 1 game each. Natalo kasi UE eh kaya dinagdagan nila ng ganyang rule.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Wiggum on Aug 10, 2011 at 12:06 PM
so if no team sweeps the elimination round, the finals is just a best-of-three series but if a team sweeps the elimination round, then the finals, technically, becomes a best-of-five with the team who swept the eliminations having a one game advantage? sounds illogical. ;D

I agree.  Might as well give the crown to the team that sweeps the eliminations, in this case.  I think the automatic berth in the Finals is enough as an incentive/reward.  If the team is really that good, it can demonstrate that during the best-of-three Finals. 

 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Aug 10, 2011 at 12:17 PM
I agree.  Might as well give the crown to the team that sweeps the eliminations, in this case.  I think the automatic berth in the Finals is enough as an incentive/reward.  If the team is really that good, it can demonstrate that during the best-of-three Finals. 

 

O eto na official word from my sources inside UAAP/NCAA :  Tama ka Wiggum - the one who sweeps the eliminations gains an automatic berth in the finals.  Then a best of 3 finals.  No more twice to beat advantage.  This is what happened to San Beda last year.  It swept the elims and waited for the other teams in a ladder system.  Baste and San Beda battled it out in a best of 3 where San Beda won 2-0. 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Aug 10, 2011 at 01:35 PM
O eto na official word from my sources inside UAAP/NCAA :  Tama ka Wiggum - the one who sweeps the eliminations gains an automatic berth in the finals.  Then a best of 3 finals.  No more twice to beat advantage.  This is what happened to San Beda last year.  It swept the elims and waited for the other teams in a ladder system.  Baste and San Beda battled it out in a best of 3 where San Beda won 2-0. 

Does this also apply to the UAAP?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Aug 10, 2011 at 02:34 PM
mukhang mas maganda talaga yung NCAA versus UAAP, both San Beda and San Sebastian sporting immaculate records yung laban nila parang preview na ng finals

di ako madalas maka nood but gets the chance to see nuyles and abvueva, ang galing pareho
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Aug 10, 2011 at 03:55 PM
Does this also apply to the UAAP?

Yes sir! Same rules apply.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 10, 2011 at 04:11 PM
mukhang mas maganda talaga yung NCAA versus UAAP, both San Beda and San Sebastian sporting immaculate records yung laban nila parang preview na ng finals

di ako madalas maka nood but gets the chance to see nuyles and abvueva, ang galing pareho

yes Calvin Abueva is a monster on the court. more inches in height could have make him unstoppable even with imports playing for the opposing teams.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Aug 11, 2011 at 12:10 PM
yes Calvin Abueva is a monster on the court. more inches in height could have make him unstoppable even with imports playing for the opposing teams.

Abueva has improved a lot ever since he joined Baste three years ago.  Lately, the guy has been contributing in assists. He scored a triple double a couple of games ago and has been averaging 5 apg.  That's not good news for the opposing teams, particularly San Beda.  Malupit talaga si Calvin.  You can say all you want about his "brash" and cocky attitude but the guy's a winner.   

The showdown next week between the Stags and the Red Lions is really a game to watch.  These two teams have faced each other in the past two Finals series of the NCAA.  Stags won in 2009 and the Lions got back at them in 2010.  With an improved Abueva and a solid lineup, the Stags is tough to beat.  San Beda, on the other hand, hasn't lost a game since 2010.  They have swept last years' NCAA and have remained unbeaten until now, despite not having Sudan in the lineup and going All Pinoy for the first time since they started dominating the NCAA again.  Sabi ng madami swerte lang daw lately ang San Beda and they are bound to lose games soon in the hands of stronger teams like Baste.  Baste out to prove that they are the best All Pinoy team ( wala na nga ba import sa lineup nila? ) San Beda also out to prove that they can win with an All Pinoy lineup. 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 11, 2011 at 02:36 PM
it will be WAR when Baste faces San Beda next week.
NO IMPORT for San Beda so this will be a BIG TEST for them and prove that they really are that GOOD even playing All Filipino.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: puffalan84 on Aug 11, 2011 at 04:38 PM
it will be WAR when Baste faces San Beda next week.
NO IMPORT for San Beda so this will be a BIG TEST for them and prove that they really are that GOOD even playing All Filipino.


I'm betting on Baste..  :)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: pa3ck608 on Aug 11, 2011 at 06:00 PM
akala ko import si abueva, pinoy din pala  ;D

go san beda fight!!! love your own syempre.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Superman on Aug 12, 2011 at 08:13 AM
Is the 2nd Round sked of the UAAP available already?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Wiggum on Aug 12, 2011 at 09:13 AM
^ Yes - paki-post naman, if anyone has it.

OT:  If you're following the Jones Cup, big game today for Smart Gilas vs. Japan (5 PM, live on ESPN/AKTV 13).  A win will ensure a semifinals berth.  But a loss may have tie-breaker complications that could eliminate the Philippines.  Japan did not field their top players to this tournament (who are preparing for the London Olympics' qualifying tournament next month), but they have PG Tabuse (who played in the NBA, for PHX yata) and some young, athletic players. 

http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/jones-cup-dispatch-a-look-at-japan-and-semis-scenarios

 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Aug 12, 2011 at 09:39 AM
Is the 2nd Round sked of the UAAP available already?

Schedule will be released within the day. Will post if it becomes available and i'm not stuck in meetings.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Aug 12, 2011 at 09:44 AM
Di pa available but here's a good site to keep you updated on UAAP & NCAA :

http://www.inboundpass.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-basketball/teams.php?conference_id=13 (http://www.inboundpass.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-basketball/teams.php?conference_id=13)

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 12, 2011 at 09:48 AM
akala ko import si abueva, pinoy din pala  ;D

go san beda fight!!! love your own syempre.

taga pampanga ata si Calvin, he's actually the bigger version of Talk n Text Jason Castor.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Superman on Aug 12, 2011 at 03:26 PM
Schedule will be released within the day. Will post if it becomes available and i'm not stuck in meetings.

Do we have an update already re: Round 2 skeds, sir?? Thanks!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: puffalan84 on Aug 12, 2011 at 03:47 PM
taga pampanga ata si Calvin, he's actually the bigger version of Talk n Text Jason Castor.

or bigger version of Willie Miller.. First time I watched NCAA in Rizal back in '97,  Miller dunked on Calpito and Aducul, although Letran lost to Baste that dunk against 2 mammoths was really unforgettable.. Anyway, Baste swept the season that year, totally unbeaten.. No team can match them even UST who at that time was the UAAP champ.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 12, 2011 at 04:08 PM
or bigger version of Willie Miller.. First time I watched NCAA in Rizal back in '97,  Miller dunked on Calpito and Aducul, although Letran lost to Baste that dunk against 2 mammoths was really unforgettable.. Anyway, Baste swept the season that year, totally unbeaten.. No team can match them even UST who at that time was the UAAP champ.

That time Baste had an awesome line up. Rommel Adducol, Banjo Calpito, Brixter Encarnacion, Jasper Ocampo, Ulysess Tanigue.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: pa3ck608 on Aug 12, 2011 at 04:44 PM
^ plus rommel daep.  btw, i still remember yun mga harapan na set shot na 3 points ni tanigue ang pumapatay sa san beda dati.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: puffalan84 on Aug 12, 2011 at 05:07 PM
^ plus rommel daep.  btw, i still remember yun mga harapan na set shot na 3 points ni tanigue ang pumapatay sa san beda dati.

Beda with Ralph Emerson Rivera and Rency Bajar, with 2 big men ( I forgot their names).. Letran naman with Calaguio, Miller, and Kerby Raymundo.. Players turning pro before were exciting lalo na pag draft na..

OT. Remember yung year ni Boybits Victoria and Rey Evangelista, grabe labanan sa ROY sa PBA nun..

ngayun even the best players from NCAA and UAAP di makaporma because of the Fil-Ams..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: pa3ck608 on Aug 12, 2011 at 05:24 PM
Beda with Ralph Emerson Rivera and Rency Bajar, with 2 big men ( I forgot their names).. Letran naman with Calaguio, Miller, and Kerby Raymundo.. Players turning pro before were exciting lalo na pag draft na..

OT. Remember yung year ni Boybits Victoria and Rey Evangelista, grabe labanan sa ROY sa PBA nun..

ngayun even the best players from NCAA and UAAP di makaporma because of the Fil-Ams..

...plus ato morano, norman gonzales and dino manuel (2 big men) composed the starting lineup of san beda. but the beda frontline was no match against adducul and calpito combo. kerby naman was a lanky and very cocky rookie back then, 17yrs old lng yta but already 6'6". 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 12, 2011 at 05:30 PM
^ plus rommel daep.  btw, i still remember yun mga harapan na set shot na 3 points ni tanigue ang pumapatay sa san beda dati.
Baste even had Jerome Barbosa as the reliever for Adducol or Calpito.

I just felt the NCAA produced lots of individual talents compared to the UAAP w/c is more into scientific brand of basketball.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Aug 12, 2011 at 09:34 PM
^sa tingin ko yan din yung dahilan kung bakit mas maraming UAAP players ang nasa PBA ngayon..

napapansin ko talaga that most of the players who make it sa PBA in the recent years, galing UAAP.. nung nag-4-peat ang UST, most of their players then established a career sa PBA.. Dennis Espino, Bal David, Rey Evangelista, Edmund Reyes.. yung 5-peat core ng Baste, si Adducul lang and it's a far cry from the career he could have had kung di siya pumasok sa MBA..

kung titingnan mo nga line-ups ng PBA ngayon, you can form the core of the UAAP champion teams in the past decade or so..

sa Ateneo, you have Tenorio, Villanueva, Fonacier, Gonzales, Alvarez, Intal, Kramer, Jai Reyes, Baclao, Al-Hussaini.. sa La Salle, Cortez, Sharma, Wilson, Cardona, Ritualo, Tang, Yeo, Maierhofer, Gaco.. sama mo pa si Allado.. kahit nga UE na di nag-champion in recent years makakabuo ng solid team with James Yap, Artadi, Tubid, Canaleta, Borboran, Espiritu.. may FEU ka pa with Santos, Miranda, Isip, Villanueva, Rizada, Chan..

mas may advantage talaga yung player na sanay na maglaro within a system.. sometimes nga when I watch the NCAA ngayon, nasasayangan ako sa mga players na magagaling individually.. I always wonder if they'd fit sa PBA..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Superman on Aug 12, 2011 at 10:41 PM
(http://www.goarchers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/uaap74_mens_sked_2ndround.gif)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Aug 12, 2011 at 11:31 PM
(http://www.goarchers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/uaap74_mens_sked_2ndround.gif)

haha! thanks sir! i see you got that from the goarchers.com post. i was gonna post the one from goateneo.com.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 13, 2011 at 09:50 AM
^sa tingin ko yan din yung dahilan kung bakit mas maraming UAAP players ang nasa PBA ngayon..

napapansin ko talaga that most of the players who make it sa PBA in the recent years, galing UAAP.. nung nag-4-peat ang UST, most of their players then established a career sa PBA.. Dennis Espino, Bal David, Rey Evangelista, Edmund Reyes.. yung 5-peat core ng Baste, si Adducul lang and it's a far cry from the career he could have had kung di siya pumasok sa MBA..

kung titingnan mo nga line-ups ng PBA ngayon, you can form the core of the UAAP champion teams in the past decade or so..

sa Ateneo, you have Tenorio, Villanueva, Fonacier, Gonzales, Alvarez, Intal, Kramer, Jai Reyes, Baclao, Al-Hussaini.. sa La Salle, Cortez, Sharma, Wilson, Cardona, Ritualo, Tang, Yeo, Maierhofer, Gaco.. sama mo pa si Allado.. kahit nga UE na di nag-champion in recent years makakabuo ng solid team with James Yap, Artadi, Tubid, Canaleta, Borboran, Espiritu.. may FEU ka pa with Santos, Miranda, Isip, Villanueva, Rizada, Chan..

mas may advantage talaga yung player na sanay na maglaro within a system.. sometimes nga when I watch the NCAA ngayon, nasasayangan ako sa mga players na magagaling individually.. I always wonder if they'd fit sa PBA..

basketball nowadays is too systematic and becoz of scientific approach to the game, no all of the players have the freedom to display their talents thats why i dont think we'd see the likes TONY HARRIS, BILLY RAY BATES, MICHAEL HACKETT, CARLOS BRIGGS shooting the lights out of the arena.
sobrang defensive minded and approach ng mga coaches kya we dont experience much high scoring games anymore. and more to that teams forces a lot of turn overs kya mostly masakit sa mata un mga games.

i can compare it to the COW raised in nature by letting it have the freedom to eat grass and anything out there in the field to a COW scientifically fed with corn and vitamins quarantined inside barn.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: brainwashed on Aug 13, 2011 at 02:32 PM
basketball nowadays is too systematic and becoz of scientific approach to the game, no all of the players have the freedom to display their talents thats why i dont think we'd see the likes TONY HARRIS, BILLY RAY BATES, MICHAEL HACKETT, CARLOS BRIGGS shooting the lights out of the arena.
sobrang defensive minded and approach ng mga coaches kya we dont experience much high scoring games anymore. and more to that teams forces a lot of turn overs kya mostly masakit sa mata un mga games.

i can compare it to the COW raised in nature by letting it have the freedom to eat grass and anything out there in the field to a COW scientifically fed with corn and vitamins quarantined inside barn.

I agree a bit with what you say. We definitely will not see anymore imports score at will every game. This is basically due to the team defense employed by the teams nowadays. There are still good individual defense-minded players, and there are still those who can be called import stoppers, but what makes it more difficult to score is the help defense used by the teams.

Tony Harris, Billy Ray Bates, Michael Hackett and Carlos Briggs are good offensive players. But they played in the PBA when the Zone defense was not allowed. They played in the PBA when the style of play was run-and-gun and only minimal defense was applied, except for instances when the defensive player wanted to get a message through, like Jaworski stepping into the path of a driving player or simply pretending to step into the path or punching Lastimosa in the gut, or Onchie dela Cruz spitting at his opponent's face, or Fernandez bringing down a driving Briggs, or the bruise brothers Relosa and Villamin ganging up on anyone who  enters into the lane. I doubt Harris, Bates, Hackett and Briggs would have scored as high as they did.

It's not a question of how good individual players are stunted by the scientific style of play nowadays, it's a question of how they can use these individual talents to work within the style of play and thus become succesful players!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 13, 2011 at 04:22 PM
before ksi its more of individual offense vs individual defense so magandang panoorin. then there's the ILLEGAL DEFENSE rule employed w/c gives advantage to great individual offensive players.
now its team defense employed so u need team offense to be successful, movements w/o the ball is certainly a must for the players to score nowadays.

In the PBA i really dont understand why they should limit the heights on imports to 6'6 and under, hndi na nga nakakaproma mga yan dahil sa scientific team defenses so why not go for unlimited height on import laden conferences para naman masanay mga Pinoy guarding very tall players w/c they usually encounter during international tourneys.

In the UAAP a good example is Ray Parks Jr. he just cant dominate the league w/ his talent.
in fact he's unimpressive compared to Ravena and Slaughter w/c are blending well with system of Coach Norman Black so both are playing very well despite being rookies.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: vinci on Aug 13, 2011 at 04:53 PM
ibang level si ravena! ganda ng game! OT pa!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Aug 14, 2011 at 04:34 AM
Ateneo showed a lot of character in that last game.  The only time they led was in OT, they were playing catch up all throughout.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Aug 14, 2011 at 02:52 PM
the officiating seems to be getting worse as the tournament goes on in both the UAAP and NCAA.. and that annoying lane violation after a free throw needs to be scrapped.. it's being called at almost every shot.. minsan sa endgame pa in a close game.. parang referee na nag-dedecide kung sino mananalo..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 15, 2011 at 09:36 AM
Moral boosting win by Adamson against DLSU yesterday, its long overdue that they should learn how to win close games so they can finally beat Ateneo come the 2nd round and even challenge them for the Championship.

UST w/the inside presence of ABDUL is certainly gona be a different team come the 2nd round.
Fortuna is quarterbacking well for this team.
The rookie Ferrer must now step up his game to a higher level so they can reach the Final Four.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: oweidah on Aug 15, 2011 at 10:03 AM
the officiating seems to be getting worse as the tournament goes on in both the UAAP and NCAA.. and that annoying lane violation after a free throw needs to be scrapped.. it's being called at almost every shot.. minsan sa endgame pa in a close game.. parang referee na nag-dedecide kung sino mananalo..



baka active pa mga gambling syndicates? kamusta naman ang players' "performance" minomonitor kaya ng mga opisyal ng uaap/nc?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: krets pulpol on Aug 18, 2011 at 11:02 AM
Yan na, napasukan na ng negosyo

State-of-the-art MOA Arena to host next UAAP season

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/08/18/11/state-art-moa-arena-host-next-uaap-season

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: oweidah on Aug 18, 2011 at 11:23 AM
may kumpetensya na ang smart-araneta coliseum  ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: blackie on Aug 18, 2011 at 11:48 AM
Yan na, napasukan na ng negosyo

State-of-the-art MOA Arena to host next UAAP season

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/08/18/11/state-art-moa-arena-host-next-uaap-season



Got to see construction of this during an event at SMX a few months back.  It will be huge!  There is also  a "bird's nest" parking to accomodate all the cars that will flock  events!!!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: frootloops on Aug 18, 2011 at 11:54 AM
San Beda (8-0) vs San Sebastian (8-0) will be gunning for the lead tomorrow.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: oweidah on Aug 18, 2011 at 01:23 PM
San Beda (8-0) vs San Sebastian (8-0) will be gunning for the lead tomorrow.

4pm arena SJ?

hindi na ba uso bugbugan ng mga taga-beda at baste?  ::) ;D

go sbc fight!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Aug 18, 2011 at 04:02 PM
4pm arena SJ?

hindi na ba uso bugbugan ng mga taga-beda at baste?  ::) ;D

go sbc fight!

Yes 4pm.  Hope you got tickets?  Nagkaubusan na eh.

Yun bugbugan at rambulan wala na, lumipas na.  Gone are the hooliganism days.  

"From San Beda to the battlefield, march the sons of SBC.  Wearing colors of the Red and White, waving for our victory...."

F-I-G-H-T!!!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 18, 2011 at 04:05 PM
San Beda (8-0) vs San Sebastian (8-0) will be gunning for the lead tomorrow.

its gonna be physical!!! its gonna be WAR!!!
i'm sure Beda players like Jake Pascual , Dave Marcelo, and the Somerand Twins will try to get the goat out of Baste's TOP GUN Abueva.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: oweidah on Aug 18, 2011 at 04:24 PM
Yes 4pm.  Hope you got tickets?  Nagkaubusan na eh.

Yun bugbugan at rambulan wala na, lumipas na.  Gone are the hooliganism days. 

"From San Beda to the battlefield, march the sons of SBC.  Wearing banners of the Red and White, waving for our victory...."

F-I-G-H-T!!!


ay  ;D  those were the good olddays. sa rizal coliseum palaging may away beda vs. baste o letsrun este letran. kundi batuhan ng bote sa bleachers na walang divider. o sa paglabas, huntingan hanggang harrison, taft etc hehehe

di ako manood pero may mga alumni na kilala ko, pero mga peace-men na kasi may arthritis at kung ano-anong maintenance medication na nilalaklak baka akayin ko pa sila. hehehe

kung vs. JRU manonood ako, sarap kumanta ng jose rizal hopia factory ;D tsaka noon make love not war sa bleachers pag jru kalaban  ::)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: puffalan84 on Aug 18, 2011 at 06:51 PM
Aha sir ojofool, u'r messing with my letran knights.. Just kidding.. Kung pwede lang sana matalo sila pareho tomrow.. Hassle ang layo ng san juan.. Sana ibalik sa Rizal..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: pa3ck608 on Aug 18, 2011 at 08:28 PM
4pm arena SJ?

hindi na ba uso bugbugan ng mga taga-beda at baste?  ::) ;D

go sbc fight!

mga panatiko din pala kayo. ang naexperience ko lng ay yung batuhan ng bote at coins noong panahon nila adducul sa baste at calaguio sa letran. syempre kinuha agad kunwari ni tita tits (asst prefect during my time) yung mga pangalan ng nakita nyang bedistang nakikijoin sa gulo, pero wala rin naman nangyari.  ;D i'm sure magkakainitan na naman bukas dahil parehong undefeated yung dalawa.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: oweidah on Aug 19, 2011 at 07:57 AM
Aha sir ojofool, u'r messing with my letran knights.. Just kidding.. Kung pwede lang sana matalo sila pareho tomrow.. Hassle ang layo ng san juan.. Sana ibalik sa Rizal..


pasensya na po.

in fairness, sa ncaa wars noon, masarap ka-match ang letran kasi palaban.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Aug 19, 2011 at 08:56 AM
Lucky enough to secure ringside tickets for the "WAR" later ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Wiggum on Aug 19, 2011 at 12:26 PM
Speaking of WAR, OT muna:  Major brawl involving the Georgetown Hoyas and the Bayi Rockets in an exhibition game in China.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ClAM3zXx-I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmG9G-ZwDDc
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 19, 2011 at 02:55 PM
Lucky enough to secure ringside tickets for the "WAR" later ;D

i expect a brawl in the making as the two unbeaten teams collide later on.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: vinci on Aug 19, 2011 at 05:54 PM
ganda ng laban! natalo rin beda sa wakas. :)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Aug 19, 2011 at 05:58 PM
and Baste it is! dinaan lang sa sipag ng Stags.. those offensive rebounds won it for them.. and I think masyadong naging predictable yung San Beda in their last few plays.. palagi sila dun sa back picks kay Lanete..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 19, 2011 at 06:06 PM
w/o Sudan, Baste players are very confident attacking the basket.

Great game by San Beda, they could have escaped defeat with a  3pt shot.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 22, 2011 at 09:13 AM
Great win by FEU yesterday against ADU.
Great game by Aldrich Ramos. He really played aggressively attacking the basket.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: puffalan84 on Aug 22, 2011 at 10:14 AM
w/o Sudan, Baste players are very confident attacking the basket.

Great game by San Beda, they could have escaped defeat with a  3pt shot.

great game.. Abueva was really a beast, reminds me of Arwind Santos during his FEU days.. Beda was really predictable and who is their go-to-guy pag crunch time, parang wala..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: puffalan84 on Aug 22, 2011 at 10:32 AM
Great win by FEU yesterday against ADU.
Great game by Aldrich Ramos. He really played aggressively attacking the basket.


That Nuyles guy can play (and he plays hard) kaya lang he keeps on taking long shots.. with his talent and his leaping ability Adamson could be a force this year, he just have to play smarter..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 22, 2011 at 11:19 AM
That Nuyles guy can play (and he plays hard) kaya lang he keeps on taking long shots.. with his talent and his leaping ability Adamson could be a force this year, he just have to play smarter..

no doubt he is very talented but needs a lot of polishing offensively to be more consistent.
he'll be a great PBA player someday with the proper system so he can maximize his GOD-given talents.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Aug 22, 2011 at 12:32 PM
and Baste it is! dinaan lang sa sipag ng Stags.. those offensive rebounds won it for them.. and I think masyadong naging predictable yung San Beda in their last few plays.. palagi sila dun sa back picks kay Lanete..

Great game indeed.  Sweet victory for Baste and a disheartening loss for the Red Lions.  We had two opportunities to tie or win but couldn't execute well.  Great D by Baste, denying Lanete of a last second shot.  But dapat nung nakuha ni Dela Rosa sya na dumiskarte at hindi na pinasa kay Marcelo who was forced to take an off balanced 3 point shot. >:(

More than Calvin Abuva, I really feel Ronald Pascual was the main man during that game.  His timely rebounds, short stabs and three point shots killed us.

Napakagandang laban. Match na match! ;D  By the way, this is San Beda's first loss since last year's NCAA season :(

Some pics from my cellphone...


(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp5399%3B%3Enu%3D3268%3E%3A7%3B%3E335%3EWSNRCG%3D367%3B37359532%3Bnu0mrj)
Sea of Yellow ...

(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp539%3A%3A%3Enu%3D3268%3E%3A7%3B%3E335%3EWSNRCG%3D367%3B37359732%3Bnu0mrj)
Baser on two free throws


(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp539%3C2%3Enu%3D3268%3E%3A7%3B%3E335%3EWSNRCG%3D367%3B37359832%3Bnu0mrj)
Sea of Red...
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Aug 22, 2011 at 12:54 PM
I think yung maturity ng laro ni Ian Sangalang and the increased confidence of Ronald Pascual ang nagdadala sa Baste ngayon.. expected na kasi talaga yung performance ni Abueva.. malaking tulong yung paglaro nila sa PBA D-League especially for Pascual.. yung buzzer-beating corner jumper niya with 0.8sec left to win the championship sa D-League was really big for him..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 22, 2011 at 01:02 PM
with Sudan, it could have been a different ball game but its now up to San Beda to prove they can win it all w/o an import.
they may lost the battle but not the WAR there's time to regroup and prepare for the next battle against the STAGS.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Aug 22, 2011 at 01:18 PM
with Sudan, it could have been a different ball game but its now up to San Beda to prove they can will it all w/o an import.
they may lost the battle but not the WAR there's time to regroup and prepare for the next battle against the STAGS.

Sudan hinted that he might be able to play in the second round ;D  But if you ask me, I'd really want San Beda to win with an All Pinoy cast ;D  Para wala ng masabi ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 22, 2011 at 02:29 PM
Sudan hinted that he might be able to play in the second round ;D  But if you ask me, I'd really want San Beda to win with an All Pinoy cast ;D  Para wala ng masabi ;D

me too. i wana be convinced they are worthy and also frankie lim as a good coach.
ALL FILIPINO para mas maganda ang laban. the Filipino Pride!

panindigan na sana ng San Beda to go ALL Filipino all the way atleast for this year at kung matalo, tyaka na ule sila mgpasok ng import next season.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: -sniper- on Aug 22, 2011 at 04:08 PM
although i am a UAAP fan, i could not resist the urge to watch that game. and it was a really good game. during the first half, it looked like SSC was going to nail it easily. but beda rallied in the second half and even took the lead. it was a see-saw battle from there. abueva was definitely a beast in that game. but it was a team effort, for me. except that abueva and pascual imposed their will the most in the game.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 22, 2011 at 10:10 PM
although i am a UAAP fan, i could not resist the urge to watch that game. and it was a really good game. during the first half, it looked like SSC was going to nail it easily. but beda rallied in the second half and even took the lead. it was a see-saw battle from there. abueva was definitely a beast in that game. but it was a team effort, for me. except that abueva and pascual imposed their will the most in the game.

mas matindi ksi bakbakan dto specially SBC vs SSC ksi eto tlga ang 2 elite teams dto, sayang un CSJL  at MIT ksi kulang sila sa manpower.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 25, 2011 at 05:24 PM
whats happening to DLSU? mukhang they wont make it to the Final Four back to back.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Superman on Aug 25, 2011 at 06:57 PM
whats happening to DLSU? mukhang they wont make it to the Final Four back to back.

I'm Green...win or lose...but it seems the boys lost their HEART when they lost to UE the other week...the boys need a lot of maturity...especially that it is supposed to be payback time this Sunday...
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 25, 2011 at 08:15 PM
I'm Green...win or lose...but it seems the boys lost their HEART when they lost to UE the other week...the boys need a lot of maturity...especially that it is supposed to be payback time this Sunday...

napansin ko wlang GO TO GUY ang DLSU. Marata is a big disappointment. Their guards arent as creative as the ones before. They seem to be loaded with Tall Players but since there backcourt arent that talented, their offense suffers.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Aug 28, 2011 at 12:55 PM
UST is holding on to that 4th spot tightly now.. their win vs. UE puts them at 6-5 now.. malas lang and their last 3 games are against Adamson, FEU and NU.. they win 2 of 3 and they're in.. La Salle needs to sweep their remaining games starting today vs. Ateneo.. for NU naman, yesterday's heart-breaker against FEU and that 1st round loss against UE is going to haunt them.. 6-5 sana sila instead of 4-7..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 01, 2011 at 01:34 PM
i feel UST will qualify for the 4th spot in the semis but they should pray that Ateneo sweeps so that they can go on a step ladder playoff rather than facing Ateneo outright in the semis.
pag step ladder bka makasilat pa sila against FEU and ADU but in the finals, Ateneo is thrice to beat should the sweep both elimination rounds.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Sep 01, 2011 at 01:46 PM
napansin ko wlang GO TO GUY ang DLSU. Marata is a big disappointment. Their guards arent as creative as the ones before. They seem to be loaded with Tall Players but since there backcourt arent that talented, their offense suffers.

Coach Jong Uichico will probably coach for the GA next season. Dindo is on the way out.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: sardaukar on Sep 01, 2011 at 01:59 PM
He wasn't a very good coach the first time around. Hopefully that's no longer the case. Baka mamaya pang pro lang siya.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 01, 2011 at 02:09 PM
Yup, Uichico didn't do to well the first time around ..... even with the influx of Filams (Allado, etc). He was a nervous wreck during the tight games.

I remember that Finals series game with FEU ..... Ron Jacobs was practically coaching DLSU from behind the team bench.

Still, Uichico will likely do much better the next time around - if ever Dindo Pumaren is replaced.




 

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 01, 2011 at 02:44 PM
napansin ko wlang GO TO GUY ang DLSU. Marata is a big disappointment. Their guards arent as creative as the ones before. They seem to be loaded with Tall Players but since there backcourt arent that talented, their offense suffers.

It's starting to get obvious that Dindo is not Franz.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: puffalan84 on Sep 01, 2011 at 03:26 PM
It's starting to get obvious that Dindo is not Franz.

except for Revilla, the talent is missing for La Salle.. Franz had the best players during his term.. bad timing for Dindo.. 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Superman on Sep 01, 2011 at 04:00 PM
DLSU has an excellent system...sadly the current crop of players does not fit the system, except maybe for a few...
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 01, 2011 at 04:34 PM
Kukunin daw ng DLSU si Tim Cone haha  ;D

Joke  :D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 01, 2011 at 05:51 PM
is topex robinson better than dindo or topex is just luckier getting better players?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 01, 2011 at 06:03 PM
Topex is indeed lucky to have a great crew, when he was made SSC head-coach. He's still a newbie & it showed during the recent PBA DLeague.

He will get better really fast as he's also an assistant at ALASKA - even without Cone.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 01, 2011 at 06:12 PM
Topex is indeed lucky to have a great crew, when he was made SSC head-coach. He's still a newbie & it showed during the recent PBA DLeague.

He will get better really fast as he's also an assistant at ALASKA - even without Cone.

im wondering if someone like topex could do wonders for UST with its current crew

although mukahng maganda yata tsansa ng UST this year sa final four.

i have not been watching really, sanda sadali lang kase na mis ko na yung UST na dinodominate lahat :(
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 01, 2011 at 06:35 PM
I don't think Topex could do better than what Pido has done so far.. Topex is looking like a great coach because he has a superior team.. I'm not saying he's not good but it's easier to coach a team if you have players that can do what you tell them to and do them right..

if you put Topex at UST, they'd be where NU is at right now, in my opinion.. I think Dindo would fare better than Topex if he had the UST lineup.. not too long ago, Dindo led UE to a 14-0 sweep with no legitimate superstar in the lineup.. he did lose to brother Franz in the finals but still, 14-0 is not an easy thing to do..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 01, 2011 at 06:36 PM
^ Probably not right now. Topex ran some triangle offense during his PBA DLeague stint.... he had some decent bigs to initiate the passing.

He won't have that luxury in UST.... Abdul is still raw.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 01, 2011 at 07:17 PM
I don't think Topex could do better than what Pido has done so far.. Topex is looking like a great coach because he has a superior team.. I'm not saying he's not good but it's easier to coach a team if you have players that can do what you tell them to and do them right..

if you put Topex at UST, they'd be where NU is at right now, in my opinion.. I think Dindo would fare better than Topex if he had the UST lineup.. not too long ago, Dindo led UE to a 14-0 sweep with no legitimate superstar in the lineup.. he did lose to brother Franz in the finals but still, 14-0 is not an easy thing to do..

i was thinking the same that dindo might be better recalling the UE stint indeed, i couldnt even recall anyone from that roster, which mean there is no superstar indeed.

by the way a bit OT but waht happened to jervy cruz? I know he is in the pba but couldnt recall seeing him play
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 01, 2011 at 07:49 PM
^ Dindo is a better coach right now than Topex ....... though like I said, expect Topex to accelerate much faster since he's exposed to the PBA more - with ALASKA no less.

By the way, that UE team that went 14-0 had more than a few very decent players ..... not superstars, but worthy enough to crack PBA rosters e.g. Borboran, Thiele, Espiritu, Arellano, Acuna, Lingganay & Paul Lee (still very raw then).

Jervy Cruz was never going to replicate his UAAP success into the pros.

He's undersized & a tad on the slow-side ....... though his post smarts, decent rebounding & his decent mid-range jumpers have brought him some minutes in Welcoat's PBA team (ROS).

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 01, 2011 at 07:55 PM
Jervy is with Rain or Shine under Yeng Guiao.. his game really doesn't fit Yeng's system kaya wala siya masyadong playing time..

that UE team might have produced players that are in the PBA now but only Borboran really got to play.. Espiritu may soon get minutes in the coming season and Paul Lee as well after going no. 2 in the draft.. but if you compare that UE team with the other teams that did the same feat, you'd really wonder how they were able to do it..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 01, 2011 at 08:00 PM
^ Dindo is a better coach right now than Topex ....... though like I said, expect Topex to accelerate much faster since he's exposed to the PBA more - with ALASKA no less.

By the way, that UE team that went 14-0 had more than a few very decent players ..... not superstars, but worthy enough to crack PBA rosters e.g. Borboran, Thiele, Espiritu, Arellano, Acuna, Lingganay & Paul Lee (still very raw then).

Jervy Cruz was never going to replicate his UAAP success into the pros.

He's undersized & a tad on the slow-side ....... though his post smarts, decent rebounding & his decent mid-range jumpers have brought him some minutes in Welcoat's PBA team (ROS).



now i remember, elmer espiritu si the slam dunk champion, eto yung mahaba ang reach, nakikita ko sya maglaro pero di babad, si thiele din

eto yata yung nag champion ang UST pero 14-0 and UE
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 01, 2011 at 08:08 PM
Yup, unlike the other sweep-teams e.g. 80's UE & 90's UST .... that UE team was devoid of a superstar ..... though like I said, they had an over-abundance of tough players that year.

It really says something when their toughest player then (Fampulme) didn't even crack a PBA roster ..... they also, survived some close games - IIRC the most infamous being the Rico Maierhoffer hard-foul leading to Brian Ilad punching Fampulme.

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 01, 2011 at 08:12 PM
now i remember, elmer espiritu si the slam dunk champion, eto yung mahaba ang reach, nakikita ko sya maglaro pero di babad, si thiele din

eto yata yung nag champion ang UST pero 14-0 and UE

Yup, Espiritu was the slam-dunkin one.

How I wish that UST won that year ...... it was actually DLSU who won the championship by sweeping UE in the Finals. Much like FEU last year, UE just got cold during Finals.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 01, 2011 at 08:41 PM
ahhh those were the days

kelan kaya magiging matindi ulit ang UST?

though this year, I get the chance to watch too kahit saglit lang, im very impressed with that nuyles guy,ang lakas mag laro tingin ko wag lang mainjury maganda din future nito sa pba, the whole adamson team in fact is very impressive, mas gusto ko sila s feu, ateneo is already a given, halos shoe in na yata sa championship pero we can never tell, kung UE nga dati 14-0 eh nasulot din tapos yung Ateneo na tinalo ng UST yung time ni jervy cruz, baka sakaling bigyan ng mgandang laban ng FEU at ADU ang ADMU. Yung DLSU, mukhang mahirapan ang liliit ng player though minsan napanood ko yung vosotros parang di sumasablay kahit saan tumira
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 01, 2011 at 09:11 PM
DLSU has always been a full court pressing team under Franz Pumaren program. Before we can see how the backcourt of La Salle with the likes of Ritualo, Cardona, Yeo, Casio, Jose, Tang, Cuan, dominating the opponents' backcourt. Now its clearly a different story where the guards arent as explosive as the ones before.
They have lots of tall players now but they dont fit in the full court pressing style being continued by Dindo.
There's no chemistry among the players of La Salle thats why there's losing.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 01, 2011 at 09:27 PM
Those were the days indeed ...... of my 5 years in Engg, I got to see 4 UST championships live (4-peat). ;D

The lone year which I didnt see a championship (well aside from my Pay High years) was when UST lost a heart-breaker to FEU ....... I was there in the ADMU gym during that game against FEU. IIRC it was Abbarientos' last year & even then, he was spectacular.

As I've posted before, UST has actually stayed the course as far as recruitment goes ...... they still get most of their players from Pampanga & nearby areas ..... Aric Del Rosario country.

It's just the other elite programs went a few notches higher with their recruitments  e.g. DLSU Filams, ADMU Filams, ADMU strategic pirating (e.g. Baclao, Slaughter, etc), DLSU cornering the recent RP Youth Team, etc

^ Fully agree with post ...... DLSU doesnt have that creative & clutch backcourt, unlike years back.

 They (and NU) still have an outside chance though of stealing the 4th spot from UST.


Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 01, 2011 at 09:35 PM
DLSU has been system-based ever since Franz took over.. they have been solely system-based and that worked well for them.. and problema lang ngayon, other teams have figured it out.. hindi na umuubra yung umaasa ka lang sa system mo.. kailangan na talaga ng talent.. if you look at the top 4 teams ngayon sa UAAP, they have pretty good plays that they run but when it doesn't work, may back-up sila.. they give the ball to their main guys and let them do what they do best..  DLSU doesn't have that anymore.. Revilla's too small, Tampus and Webb are too erratic, Marata and Dela Paz are inconsistent.. so when the system fails, walang fallback..

it's looking like an Ateneo-Adamson finals.. if Adamson holds on to that 2nd spot and Ateneo sweeps, they will have a twice to beat edge in the stepladder semis.. and now that they've found a way to win close games, they're looking pretty good.. and they match-up well with Ateneo..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 01, 2011 at 09:55 PM
Those were the days indeed ...... of my 5 years in Engg, I got to see 4 UST championships live (4-peat). ;D

The lone year which I didnt see a championship (well aside from my Pay High years) was when UST lost a heart-breaker to FEU ....... I was there in the ADMU gym during that game against FEU. IIRC it was Abbarientos' last year & even then, he was spectacular.

As I've posted before, UST has actually stayed the course as far as recruitment goes ...... they still get most of their players from Pampanga & nearby areas ..... Aric Del Rosario country.

It's just the other elite programs went a few notches higher with their recruitments  e.g. DLSU Filams, ADMU Filams, ADMU strategic pirating (e.g. Baclao, Slaughter, etc), DLSU cornering the recent RP Youth Team, etc

^ Fully agree with post ...... DLSU doesnt have that creative & clutch backcourt, unlike years back.

 They (and NU) still have an outside chance though of stealing the 4th spot from UST.





im friends with udoy belmonte and those were the days na im very proud of our alma mater, im from eng'g batch 1992, barkada ko din si tegie dorado used to be varsity in high school'

sorry po sa OT sarap lang pag kwentuhan

anyway, Id like to see ADMU versus ADU
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 01, 2011 at 09:57 PM
I also like ADAMSON's chances against ADMU ..... their core is ripe & primed for a Finals stint.

They were less than a quarter away from beating ADMU during the 1st round ...... they just couldnt buy a basket the rest of the way ..... that classic Norman Black defense was just killer.

I'm not at all updated on the semis/Finals mechanics ....... have heard that it's thrice-to-beat incentive in the Finals for a 14-0 sweeping team ??

Doesn't seem fan-friendly ..... not unless your an ADMU fan.

 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 01, 2011 at 10:02 PM
stepladder semis kung 14-0 sweep.. 3rd vs. 4th in one-game playoff.. winner battles 2nd seed.. 2nd seed has twice-to-beat advantage.. winner of stepladder semis has to win thrice to get the crown.. team that swept elims need only to win twice.. that's pretty much it.. so if Ateneo sweeps, might as well give them the crown.. winning three against this Ateneo squad is doable but unlikely to happen..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 01, 2011 at 10:09 PM
Damm right ..... might as well give the crown to ADMU should they sweep.

NU or ADU should derail the potential sweep, so we'll have the usual semis/Finals format.

A thrice-to-beat is just too much of an incentive - in the Finals no less.




Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 01, 2011 at 10:22 PM
they should have just made it a best-of-5 series.. I understand a best-of-3 is really not favorable to the team that swept but a best-of-5 is fair enough.. if they could manage to win 14 in a row, what's one more win right?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 01, 2011 at 10:26 PM
this is good for ADMU fans

but isnt it that there are times a team peaks in the tail end and plays very well, it should have been outright finals but a final series should make it more exciting

its nice to see a team who sweeps everything gets beaten when it matters most

dont be mad at me ADMU fans, im just saying its always nice to see teams fight it out till the end

who would have thought Dallas would win the NBA crown this year?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 01, 2011 at 10:29 PM
Yup ...... Best-of-5 should be just about fair for the two Finalists.

Stop the sweep ..... NU or ADU, FTW.

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 01, 2011 at 11:06 PM
It will still be Ateneo's crown this year even if they lose a game. I've seen most of the games and all I can say is Ateneo has the better roster this season. Sadly this is one of the worst season because there are less talents unlike the years we've seen in UAAP. Case in point, how many games have you seen with close endings, what about overtimes? Gone is "it's anybody's ballgame", gone are the stand-outs and gone are match-ups/hype among teams. Talent is not evenly distributed among teams.

Ateneo can win for straight years with Slaughter and Ravena provided they don't go pro soon or get injured. They also have a very deep bench, their program has progressed through the years and after painstakingly losing a lot of heartbreaking games against the best teams out there. It's like La Salle in the late 90's when they were branded as "bridesmades" during Villavicencio and Uichico's time. It would take years for a team to take form and win a championship.

La Salle, it's already gone since Cortez's time. I've noticed that after the discovery of ineligible players, the team has gone down the drain. And Pumaren's style have been cracked through the years of coaching. Most of the plays have been analyzed and they know how to win against Pumaren since. Usually they have a good point guard/guard carrying the team. It's not really a go to guy but more of the one who makes the plays.

I want to see new champions now like NU, Adamson, UE even UP. Saka na ulit yung rivalries ng La Salle-Ateneo or FEU UST.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: puffalan84 on Sep 02, 2011 at 10:15 AM
I think the only team that can beat the mighty Ateneo in Finals is FEU. If it's best of 3, I'll bet for the Tamaraws..

Adamson's Nuyles is really impressive, needs to mature though gusto nya catch and shoot when he can drive it to the hoop and get fouls from the opposing big men.. their starting PG (forgot his name) is a little erratic and parang tira lang ng tira, I prefer their back up PG..

 

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 02, 2011 at 10:55 AM
masyadong kulang sa tao yung FEU to match-up well with Ateneo.. their guards are good but their frontline is depleted.. kayang-kaya rin pigilin ng guards ng Ateneo sina Garcia, Tolomia at Romeo.. if those 3 can't score, hirap ang FEU maghanap ng puntos.. their big men are more comfortable playing the perimeter than banging bodies inside.. Ramos and Escoto have decent jumpers but if they don't fall, mahihirapan sila sa loob against Slaughter, Chua, Salva and Sumalinog..

Adamson still has the biggest chance of beating Ateneo.. man for man, kaya nila tapatan yung Ateneo.. Lester Alvarez yung back-up nila and he really is better than Canada.. I think Leo Austria prefers Alvarez to lead the 2nd unit para may stability.. he already has Cabrera hoisting up shots at will sa 2nd unit niya.. he doesn't need another one..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: brainwashed on Sep 02, 2011 at 11:09 AM
masyadong kulang sa tao yung FEU to match-up well with Ateneo.. their guards are good but their frontline is depleted.. kayang-kaya rin pigilin ng guards ng Ateneo sina Garcia, Tolomia at Romeo.. if those 3 can't score, hirap ang FEU maghanap ng puntos.. their big men are more comfortable playing the perimeter than banging bodies inside.. Ramos and Escoto have decent jumpers but if they don't fall, mahihirapan sila sa loob against Slaughter, Chua, Salva and Sumalinog..

Adamson still has the biggest chance of beating Ateneo.. man for man, kaya nila tapatan yung Ateneo.. Lester Alvarez yung back-up nila and he really is better than Canada.. I think Leo Austria prefers Alvarez to lead the 2nd unit para may stability.. he already has Cabrera hoisting up shots at will sa 2nd unit niya.. he doesn't need another one..

Isn't it the other way around? Alvarez is the starting point guard and he is supposedly their go-to guy, hence the "tira lang ng tira" attitude. Cañada is the back-up point guard.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 02, 2011 at 11:19 AM
ADU can match up better against ADMU compared to FEU w/c is always forced to play smal with their 3 guards Garcia, Romero, and Tolomia. Kapos din sa BIG men walng banger in the mold of a Cervantes. Their small forward position is vacant with JR Cawalig very poor performances.

Lets hope ADU can beat ADMU come Sat Sept 10 so it will just make it a best of three finals for both teams.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: puffalan84 on Sep 02, 2011 at 12:45 PM
Big men of ADU is not much of a factor this year, colina is having a poor season while the power forward (forgot his name again) whom I thought could be the next Asaytono is still playing like asaytone but more on the yabang side na lang, hehe.. yes its Canada the back up PG, I prefer him over Alvarez..

FEU is really missing Cervantes, wala ngang strong man, only bringas kaya lang medyo mabagal and no post up skills..

Next year sana NU can have a good PG to pair with Parks..



Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 02, 2011 at 01:30 PM
Eric Camson is having a great season. ADU needs better performances from Janus Lozada and Austin Manyara in order to challenge ADMU in their Sept 10 encounter.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: wacksy1021 on Sep 02, 2011 at 03:07 PM
Kapos din sa BIG men walng banger in the mold of a Cervantes. Their small forward position is vacant with JR Cawalig very poor performances.


Aside from Cervantes' power plays inside, malaking kawalan din si Pipo at si Sanga. Si Sanga kasi kahit sa labas naglalaro kaya nya gumawa ng sarili niyang tira and bigla nalang bibira sa 3 at pag bwenas pa siya lagi top scorer nila dati sa ibang laro....
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: sardaukar on Sep 02, 2011 at 05:49 PM
DLSU was spoiled by 9 years (I think) of Ritualo and Casio. Great shooters na mapagkakatiwalaan in the clutch. 3 point shooters at that so kung naghahabol ka malaking bagay din. Marata was supposed to be the replacement but sadly he's not even close.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: brainwashed on Sep 02, 2011 at 06:35 PM
DLSU was spoiled by 9 years (I think) of Ritualo and Casio. Great shooters na mapagkakatiwalaan in the clutch. 3 point shooters at that so kung naghahabol ka malaking bagay din. Marata was supposed to be the replacement but sadly he's not even close.

playing time affects one's confidence. di naman nabababad ng husto si marata. at pag nagmintis labas agad di kagaya kay ritualo who had the coach's confidence and had the license to shoot all night. casio on the other hand controlled the ball, and so knew when to shoot and when to set up his teammates.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 03, 2011 at 04:54 PM
what a performance by UST in the 2nd half.. they limited Adamson to 16pts the entire 2nd half after scoring 42 in the 1st.. they came back from being down by as much as 17pts sa 2nd quarter..

Teng may be overrated but one thing he never fails to give is energy.. parang walang kapaguran yung tao.. sugod lang ng sugod.. 1 point lang sa 1st half but he scored 12pts in the 3rd alone para makahabol yung UST.. the way UST is playing this season, mukhang safe pa ng isang taon si Pido.. ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: -sniper- on Sep 03, 2011 at 05:06 PM
what a game by ust! down by 17 at the start of the second half...up by 16 at the end. What a game!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 03, 2011 at 05:42 PM
i always believe Jarencio is handling UST well . Its just a matter of getting the right players to fit in his system.
ngaun tagilid pa ADU sa twice to beat advantage.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 03, 2011 at 06:08 PM
Ateneo makes a statement by limiting NU to the lowest scoring output by any team since the UAAP started archiving records in 2003.

ADMU 61-39 NU

Parks was virtually shut down.

(http://sports.inquirer.net/files/2011/09/nu-ateneo.jpg)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: brainwashed on Sep 03, 2011 at 06:50 PM
what a performance by UST in the 2nd half.. they limited Adamson to 16pts the entire 2nd half after scoring 42 in the 1st.. they came back from being down by as much as 17pts sa 2nd quarter..

Teng may be overrated but one thing he never fails to give is energy.. parang walang kapaguran yung tao.. sugod lang ng sugod.. 1 point lang sa 1st half but he scored 12pts in the 3rd alone para makahabol yung UST.. the way UST is playing this season, mukhang safe pa ng isang taon si Pido.. ;D

if jeric, the son, is overrated, alvin, the father, was underrated. but when it comes to giving 100% energy every game, it's like father like son. :)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 03, 2011 at 08:12 PM
Nice ...... one more win (against FEU or NU) will lock-up a Final Four slot for UST.

I cant recall the last time that UST made a big comeback against a highly-seeded opponent.

Bal David, Henry Ong & Dale Singson would have been proud.

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 03, 2011 at 08:27 PM
Nice ...... one more win (against FEU or NU) will lock-up a Final Four slot for UST.

I cant recall the last time that UST made a big comeback against a highly-seeded opponent.

Bal David, Henry Ong & Dale Singson would have been proud.



UST can even gain twice to beat advantage should they sweep their remaining games and ADMU beats ADU next Sat.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 03, 2011 at 08:32 PM
^ tapos repeat ng 2006 finals against Ateneo? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 04, 2011 at 02:44 AM
^ tapos repeat ng 2006 finals against Ateneo? ;D ;D ;D

Thats a tough order but its possible.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: -sniper- on Sep 04, 2011 at 08:21 PM
Nice ...... one more win (against FEU or NU) will lock-up a Final Four slot for UST.

I cant recall the last time that UST made a big comeback against a highly-seeded opponent.


the last one i recall was their comeback win against la salle in 2007. they were down by twelve points with 1:40 (IIRC) left in the game.


^ tapos repeat ng 2006 finals against Ateneo? ;D ;D ;D


sana....and with the same result.  ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: crazyhog on Sep 04, 2011 at 11:33 PM
hi im from davao and will be in MANila dis coming weekend. how much ticket price to watch UAAP bball? wanna experience the Ateneo vs Adamson game.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Superman on Sep 05, 2011 at 12:43 PM
P200.00 Lower Box
P300.00 Patron
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: crazyhog on Sep 05, 2011 at 05:17 PM
salamat sir superman
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: -sniper- on Sep 07, 2011 at 09:56 PM
first of two must win games for the tigers tomorrow
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 08, 2011 at 02:42 PM
barring a miracle, UST is officially back in the Final Four with La Salle's impending loss to NU..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: -sniper- on Sep 08, 2011 at 03:12 PM
ust is in the Final Four. but they still have to sweep their remaining games to get the number 2 spot.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 08, 2011 at 03:14 PM
DLSU will need to rethink its system, coaching staff and overall management.  On paper, they have more than it takes to place higher than they are now.  This year is definitely one to forget for the archers.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Superman on Sep 08, 2011 at 03:18 PM
Congratulations UST!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: blackie on Sep 08, 2011 at 03:29 PM
Congratulations UST!

Panalo na Supes?  Does that a mean a final four berth?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: dencio105 on Sep 08, 2011 at 04:01 PM
^Half time pa lang sir with UST leading FEU 40-29 but NU have already beaten DLSU 56-40 in the first game.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: blackie on Sep 08, 2011 at 04:07 PM
Salamat Sir.  Keeping fingers crossed.  Go USTE!!!!!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: dencio105 on Sep 08, 2011 at 04:16 PM
Yes Go USTE!!! Dito ko lang monitor score sir: http://uaapsports.studio23.tv/ScoresAndSchedule.aspx?sportid=1 (http://uaapsports.studio23.tv/ScoresAndSchedule.aspx?sportid=1)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Superman on Sep 08, 2011 at 04:31 PM
Panalo na Supes?  Does that a mean a final four berth?

Sorry I meant UST kasi already assured of Final Four
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: blackie on Sep 08, 2011 at 04:55 PM
Sorry I meant UST kasi already assured of Final Four

Thanks Sir.  I think I counted chickens too soon... RR Garcia 3 point shot for the lead 4minutes to play!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 08, 2011 at 04:57 PM
sa wakas nasa final four na ang UST, ang tagal na panahong wala sila dito, mukhang jarencio pa din ang coach next year

di kaya pwede si tim conce sa UST?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 08, 2011 at 05:13 PM
Congrats to UST, big win against FEU.  

They lost only once in the second round of Season 74 and showed everyone the versatility of their roster.

If Adamson loses this weekend, quotient system na for ranks 2 to 4.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 08, 2011 at 05:18 PM
Congrats to UST, big win against FEU. 

They lost only once in the second round of Season 74 and showed everyone the versatility of their roster.

If Adamson loses this weekend, quotient system na for ranks 2 to 4.

actually, may playoff pa for the 2nd spot if ever UST wins and ADU loses this Sunday.. FEU will drop to 4th if that happens tapos UST and Adamson will fight for the 2nd spot and twice-to-beat advantage..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: blackie on Sep 08, 2011 at 05:26 PM
Whew................... That was a close one.   :D :D :D Go Salinggawi!!! :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: vinci on Sep 08, 2011 at 05:38 PM
hindi sa ayaw ko sa ADMU, pero sana matalo sila ng Adamson, para mas maganda competition..panget pag waiting na agad.  tapos kelangan talunin sila thrice ng kalaban? tama ba?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: blackie on Sep 08, 2011 at 06:02 PM
hindi sa ayaw ko sa ADMU, pero sana matalo sila ng Adamson, para mas maganda competition..panget pag waiting na agad.  tapos kelangan talunin sila thrice ng kalaban? tama ba?

If Adamson, FEU and UST all tie  9-5, quotient follows, adamson and ust will battle for second feu drops to fourth
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: vinci on Sep 10, 2011 at 05:02 PM
ayos! walang sweep for ateneo!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 10, 2011 at 05:03 PM
Wow! Big win by Adamson, as in tinambakan. Now Ateneo is vulnerable
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 10, 2011 at 05:07 PM
and The Ateneo finally loses 46-62.. this is going to be interesting if they meet again in the Finals.. malas yung number 4 kasi gigil yung Ateneo.. UST just has to win to have a better chance at advancing to the Finals.. an Ateneo-FEU match-up in the final 4 is good as well.. baka maka-upset pa..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Wiggum on Sep 10, 2011 at 07:33 PM
Didn't catch the game earlier, but Ateneo's loss made the post-season more interesting.  What happens if UST and FEU end up tied after the final elimination games tomorrow?  Will they have another game to determine who should be seeded third?  Or will they just apply the quotient system?

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 10, 2011 at 07:58 PM
Didn't catch the game earlier, but Ateneo's loss made the post-season more interesting.  What happens if UST and FEU end up tied after the final elimination games tomorrow?  Will they have another game to determine who should be seeded third?  Or will they just apply the quotient system?

quotient lang.. a UST win assures them of 3rd even if FEU wins.. wala rin yata si Abdul bukas for UST because of a suspension.. 2 unsportsmanlike fouls.. so that's more pressure on them against NU..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 10, 2011 at 08:49 PM
Ateneo's myth of invincibility has been shattered.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: brainwashed on Sep 10, 2011 at 10:31 PM
Ateneo's myth of invincibility has been shattered.

This is what I have been saying even before the start of the season, that Ateneo is not invincible. Their lack of go-to guys at crucial moments of the game was very evident. Ravena had difficulty driving to the basket due to the good individual and switching defense of Adamson. Slaughter's lack of agility and tendency to be frustrated affected his game. Salva, imho, is the weakest power forward of all the teams. He was simply manhandled by the big men of Adamson. Long is not really that consistent in offense. And Monfort was made ineffective by the referees' calls on him. This is where Buenafe and Dela Cruz's offense could have helped the team.

Defense wins championships, yes, but not if you can't score either!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 11, 2011 at 04:32 AM
I agree. Buenafe would have been THE option.

Pido or Bert Flores will surely be reviewing this game over and over again.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 11, 2011 at 07:59 AM
The upcoming Final Four should be a good one ..... ADMU-FEU & ADU-UST should be the best matchup scenario.

By the way, ADU beat ADMU the same way they beat UST during their 1st round encounter ..... pesky D and shooting lights-out. Should ADU do that a few more games, then their chip drought will likely come to an end.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: leomarley on Sep 11, 2011 at 09:51 AM
nahirapan sila humabol kasi mahina rin sila sa beyond the arc. puro inside game lang ang alam kasi ng ateneo.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: brainwashed on Sep 11, 2011 at 10:07 AM

By the way, ADU beat ADMU the same way they beat UST during their 1st round encounter ..... pesky D and shooting lights-out. Should ADU do that a few more games, then their chip drought will likely come to an end.

In a battle between the two best defensive teams this season, who do you think will win? obviously, it would be the team who can score more. Adamson relies on its set plays while Ateneo, more on its fastbreak plays and low post plays with Slaughter.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 11, 2011 at 01:09 PM
so ADU finally got the monkey off their backs by beating Ateeno convincingly last night.
Also good to hear UST is already in the Final 4 but what are the chances they finish at 2 spot?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: brainwashed on Sep 11, 2011 at 02:21 PM
so ADU finally got the monkey off their backs by beating Ateeno convincingly last night.
Also good to hear UST is already in the Final 4 but what are the chances they finish at 2 spot?

no chance at all! Adamson's win against Ateneo gave them the no.2 spot.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Wiggum on Sep 11, 2011 at 02:49 PM
What a shot by Parks to end the game! :o
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 11, 2011 at 03:18 PM
What a shot by Parks to end the game! :o

yes what a blind back put back. i'm sure he didnt even know it went in.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: -sniper- on Sep 12, 2011 at 01:06 PM
tall order for the tigers...the best of luck to them. hoping for an upset...
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 12, 2011 at 10:24 PM
If ateneo is a shoo into the finals then i hope adamson will be the 2nd finalist para maganda un best of 3 championship.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 14, 2011 at 05:33 PM
wow, San Beda just lost to JRU 65-76.. :o and that's after Baste escaped with a 77-76 win over Perpetual..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 14, 2011 at 06:53 PM
wow, San Beda just lost to JRU 65-76.. :o and that's after Baste escaped with a 77-76 win over Perpetual..

now CSJL has and open window to snatch the number 2 spot for twice to bet advantage.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: dmaximus on Sep 15, 2011 at 11:20 AM
UAAP final 4 today? Go Ateneo!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 15, 2011 at 01:06 PM
Its FINAL 4 Day!

Ateneo vs UST
Adamson vs FEU

i want the Ateneo vs Adamson Finale.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 15, 2011 at 01:10 PM
Ateneo's looking good as expected.. they're up 50-37 less than 3mins in the 3rd..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: dmaximus on Sep 15, 2011 at 01:17 PM
ang aga naman kasi masyado ng mga games e
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 15, 2011 at 01:25 PM
oo nga eh.. 12nn for a final 4 game?! by the way, lead's down to 5, 54-49, with 7mins to go..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: blackie on Sep 15, 2011 at 01:36 PM
oo nga eh.. 12nn for a final 4 game?! by the way, lead's down to 5, 54-49, with 7mins to go..

4th quarter na ba yan Sir?  Please continue to update. Twitter not loading

Thank You:)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 15, 2011 at 01:38 PM
65-60 Ateneo, 2:12 4th..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: blackie on Sep 15, 2011 at 01:39 PM
65-60 Ateneo, 2:12 4th..

Habol pa!!!!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 15, 2011 at 01:41 PM
down to 3.. 66-63 Ateneo, 1:12 left..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 15, 2011 at 01:48 PM
ANCALERTS
UAAP UPDATE: Salva makes 2 free throws, Ateneo- 69, UST 66

Down the wire, as expected ........ just didn't expect the game to be played this early.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 15, 2011 at 01:49 PM
panalo Ateneo 69-66.. di talaga bumigay UST.. ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 15, 2011 at 01:50 PM
Delayed telecasts suck.  :(
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 15, 2011 at 01:52 PM
ANCALERTS
UAAP UPDATE: FINAL SCORE: Ateneo-69 UST-66

Damm, UST just fell short ....... great season anyways.

If anything, the last 2 games showed that ADMU can be beat ..... both ADU & FEU are capable of pulling it off.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 15, 2011 at 01:56 PM
Delayed telecasts suck.  :(

and for a Final 4 game at that! stupid move by the UAAP..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: blackie on Sep 15, 2011 at 02:09 PM
Thanks for the updates Sirs,

Valiant fight.

Till next year ;)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 15, 2011 at 03:27 PM
Any updates for the FEU-ADU match?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 15, 2011 at 03:37 PM
Any updates for the FEU-ADU match?

just started po..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: dencio105 on Sep 15, 2011 at 04:07 PM
Any updates for the FEU-ADU match?

FEU leads 29-21 2nd quarter.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 15, 2011 at 04:31 PM
everything going right for FEU.. kabaliktaran naman for Adamson.. 40-27 for FEU, 6:05 in the 3rd..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: shuttertrigger on Sep 15, 2011 at 06:57 PM
FEU won over Adamson 56-49  :'(

Do or die game by Sunday. FEU vs Adamson. Winner will face Ateneo in the finals.

Sana manalo naman Falcons  ;)

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 15, 2011 at 07:02 PM
wasnt able to catch the games.
sad to know UST lost a tight game to Ateneo.

anyway its turns out to be a good season for UST and Coach Jarencio despite all the negative criticisms that Pido should be replaced.

i hope they can land Jeron Teng next season plus another intimidating BIG man that can patrol the paint for the team.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 15, 2011 at 10:06 PM
simula na rebuilding process ng La Salle.. Dindo Pumaren and his coaching staff have resigned..

http://sports.inquirer.net/16327/dindo-pumaren-resigns-as-la-salle-mentor
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 16, 2011 at 05:43 AM
Jeron Teng is, supposedly, a 100% lock for UST.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 16, 2011 at 10:40 AM
a more polished Kareem Abdul, a bulked up Kevin Ferrer plus the very talented Jeron Teng will make UST a legitimate contender next season.
watch out for the TIGERS!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: -sniper- on Sep 16, 2011 at 11:06 AM
next season looks bright for the tigers. their newbies will definitely be improved by then. nonetheless, aside from improving their line-up, one thing they have to work on is their composure. this, i think, is what they lack. everytime they lose a big lead in the second half, they just seem to crumble and not recover from it. eventually, they end up losing the game. 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: vinci on Sep 16, 2011 at 01:16 PM
^

improvement and maturity of their young players plus a better coach than pido will make the tigers a real contender.  kung talent lang ng players at walang magandang sistema ang coach ang mangyayari, hindi sila legit na contender kung ganon. dapat matagal ng napalitan si pido, dahil sa nakapasok sila ng final 4 this season, ewan ko lang kung palitan pa yan.

di lang players ng ust ang mag i improve, pati yung ibang team siempre may mga young guns yan na maaring lumakas.pero ang coaching style at system, anjan na yan at mahirap na ma improve lalo na't nakasanayan na.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 16, 2011 at 03:21 PM
^

improvement and maturity of their young players plus a better coach than pido will make the tigers a real contender.  kung talent lang ng players at walang magandang sistema ang coach ang mangyayari, hindi sila legit na contender kung ganon. dapat matagal ng napalitan si pido, dahil sa nakapasok sila ng final 4 this season, ewan ko lang kung palitan pa yan.

di lang players ng ust ang mag i improve, pati yung ibang team siempre may mga young guns yan na maaring lumakas.pero ang coaching style at system, anjan na yan at mahirap na ma improve lalo na't nakasanayan na.

actually Coach Pido has been doin a decent job. Pyesa lng tlga ang kulang sa UST. On papers mas malakas pa sa knila ang NU at DLSU but they end up better.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 16, 2011 at 03:37 PM
Heard some news that Camus just played his final season with the Tigers (?) ....... if this is true, then UST's campaign next year could take a hit.

Camus is the glue-guy for the team with his overall hustle & improved scoring (much like Evangelista & Yee years back).

Hope the Jeron Teng news come true and he goes Black & Gold next season.



Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 16, 2011 at 09:18 PM
Heard some news that Camus just played his final season with the Tigers (?) ....... if this is true, then UST's campaign next year could take a hit.

Camus is the glue-guy for the team with his overall hustle & improved scoring (much like Evangelista & Yee years back).

Hope the Jeron Teng news come true and he goes Black & Gold next season.

That is a huge loss if ever.  Is he going back to Cali or applying to join the draft?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 16, 2011 at 09:55 PM
A bulked up Kevin Ferrer can fill up the shoes of Camus.
He's even better coz he has an offensive game to go along with his height.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 16, 2011 at 10:56 PM
if Camus leaves, that's going to be a big loss for UST.. Ferrer can't fill up the void Camus will leave at UST.. Camus is their best all-around guy.. he's a banger with a touch from the outside.. he can run on the break.. he's solid on defense.. all-out palagi.. Ferrer is a perimeter player.. he always has been kahit nung high school pa.. he's a lot like Mirza dati.. Camus is a lot like Rey Evangelista or Edmund Reyes.. Camus can have an impact on the game even if he doesn't score.. si Ferrer, mapapansin mo lang pag pumutok..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 16, 2011 at 11:06 PM
Ferrer is indeed more offensively-gifted than Camus and will likely take his spot & minutes by next season (should Camus be gone next season).

However, Camus rebounds, defends & hustles like it's going out of style ..... brings intangibles that dont show up on stat sheets ..... makes some timely hits also. Hope he has a year or two left for the UAAP.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 17, 2011 at 08:50 AM
Ferrer is indeed more offensively-gifted than Camus and will likely take his spot & minutes by next season (should Camus be gone next season).

However, Camus rebounds, defends & hustles like it's going out of style ..... brings intangibles that dont show up on stat sheets ..... makes some timely hits also. Hope he has a year or two left for the UAAP.


he will most likely take the 4 spot if Jeron Teng playing the 3 spot so its a must that Ferrer bulks up during the off season and prepare hard for the next UAAP Wars.

he should project himself playing like Dirk Nowitski since he has a decent outside game.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 18, 2011 at 05:14 PM
Adamson puts up a great comeback but came up short in the end.

Ateneo meets FEU again in the finals.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 18, 2011 at 05:15 PM
what an endgame! FEU is going back to the Finals.. they forced Adamson to play away from their game plan and I think, yung gigil ng Adamson na makapasok sa Finals ang nagpahirap sa kanila.. that 3-guard combo by FEU is lethal lalo na pag gumawa lahat.. I feel bad for Canada.. he gave it his all.. just too late..

it's going to be an interesting Finals.. I think FEU needs to win game 1 to have a shot..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 19, 2011 at 12:32 AM
Hats off to Coach Bert Flores for doin an excellent job for FEU lately.
He's done wonders for this team.

Rookies Tolomia and Escoto have been revelations in the absence of Cawalig and Noundu.

I did predict an Ateneo vs FEU finale before the tournament started but somehow during the course of the season i lost faith in the Tamaraws and sided w/ ADU to face Ateneo in the finals.

FEU just peaked at the right time and being the underdog, i wish them the best of luck.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 23, 2011 at 07:54 PM
UAAP Finals na tomorrow.

i hope FEU can steal game 1 so we can see how the prized rookies of Ateneo handle the pressure now that Ryan Buenafe isnt with the team.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 23, 2011 at 09:04 PM
Game 1 of the UAAP Finals will be at 3pm while the Gilas semis clash (do or die) against Jordan is at 3:30pm. 

Channel surfing na to.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 23, 2011 at 09:11 PM
Game 1 of the UAAP Finals will be at 3pm while the Gilas semis clash (do or die) against Jordan is at 3:30pm. 

Channel surfing na to.

Gilas na lang panoorin mo.. sa UAAP kasi, pag natalo yung team mo bukas, may game 2 pa.. yung Gilas, pag natalo bukas, wala na.. kaya Go Gilas! next time na lang UAAP.. ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: puffalan84 on Sep 23, 2011 at 09:43 PM
UAAP Finals na tomorrow.

i hope FEU can steal game 1 so we can see how the prized rookies of Ateneo handle the pressure now that Ryan Buenafe isnt with the team.

Yeah, I always go for experience.. FEU in 3, para maiba naman..  :)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 24, 2011 at 01:46 PM
Game 1 of the UAAP Finals will be at 3pm while the Gilas semis clash (do or die) against Jordan is at 3:30pm. 

Channel surfing na to.

Yes the all important game of Gilas vs Jordan for a finals appearance against the winner of the China vs Korea game.
Lipat lipat nlng ng channels but mas mabilis matapos ang FIBA games ksi less commercials ang Channel 13 d tulad sa Channel 23 tadtad ng commercials kya may daya slightly delayed yan .
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: brainwashed on Sep 24, 2011 at 04:58 PM
ateneo wins game 1!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 24, 2011 at 06:03 PM
ateneo wins game 1!

Game 1 to Ateneo.

Sad to watch Gilas not playing up to par against Jordan earlier.
Better Luck next time Team Pilipinas.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Sep 28, 2011 at 03:29 PM
Game 1 to Ateneo.

Sad to watch Gilas not playing up to par against Jordan earlier.
Better Luck next time Team Pilipinas.

Same old problem for the Philippine Team -- NO CONSISTENT OUTSIDE SHOOTING.  Jordan killed us from the three points!  While we can't even connect from the outside.  Oh, we had some good dunks, crossover moves and what nots copied from the NBA but we don't need these to win in international games.  We need SHOOTERS, SHOOTERS, SHOOTERS.  The likes of Caidic, Adornado, Atoy Co, Danny Florencio, Chip Engelland who can score from the outside, at will!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 30, 2011 at 06:02 PM
Stags finally lose, 81-82 to Letran in OT.. nakakaaliw yung game.. halatang rusty yung Stags pero ayaw talaga bumitaw.. hero to goat si Pascual.. after forcing overtime, iniwan niyang libreng libre si Alas para sa tres.. ayun pumasok at panalo Letran..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: puffalan84 on Sep 30, 2011 at 10:15 PM
Stags finally lose, 81-82 to Letran in OT.. nakakaaliw yung game.. halatang rusty yung Stags pero ayaw talaga bumitaw.. hero to goat si Pascual.. after forcing overtime, iniwan niyang libreng libre si Alas para sa tres.. ayun pumasok at panalo Letran..

yeah, great game.. let's go Knights..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Wiggum on Oct 01, 2011 at 05:49 PM
Congrats to the Blue Eagles.  Wish the teams were more balanced this season in the UAAP. 

Any news/rumors on key recruits for the different UAAP teams next season? 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 01, 2011 at 05:55 PM
As expected Ateneo got their 4peat.
Its time for them to zero in on 5peat next season.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: leomarley on Oct 01, 2011 at 09:23 PM
badtrip kasi Adamson nagpatalo sa FEU. sila lang may kayang tumalo sa Ateneo eh. FEU walang ka-play-play kanina.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 02, 2011 at 03:07 AM
There was really no clear rival to ateneo this season. Maybe next year will be different as Slaughter may end up turning pro.

Anyways, bonfire muna! :D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Oct 02, 2011 at 07:45 AM
(UAAP) Congratulations to Ateneo.  It was what everybody expected all along.  With a powerhouse cast and a very supportive alumni, Ateneo truly deserves this rare 4-peat.  I would have wanted Adamson than FEU.  Adamson matches up well with Ateneo and it would have been a much exciting series.  Kaso, Adamson is kontra pelo naman to FEU! Ganyan ang basketball talaga.  Great UAAP year especially for Ateneans and a forgettable year for LaSalians.  Inalat ang La Salle this year but it's very interesting how their rebuilding shapes up.

(NCAA)  With Letran's upset of Baste, we now have a Final Four series for all the 4 top teams.   Great win by Letran.  Bilib talaga ako kay Kevin Alas, malupit yun bata na ito.  Earlier in the game, he made a wicked twisting layup that only Samboy Lim can do!  Here's the scenario of the Final Four according to inboundpass.com :  At 13-3, Letran stayed a half-game behind the second-place San Beda Red Lions, but Alas said it didn’t matter if they were the second or third seed. They still have two remaining games, against the St. Benilde Blazers on October 3, and then a matchup against those same Red Lions on October 7. Meanwhile, the Stags dropped to 15-1, still good for first place. They have two remaining games as well on their plate, versus the Lyceum Pirates on October 5, and the Red Lions on October 12.

The last two games of my team San Beda against Letran and Baste would be very, very interesting and exciting...
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Oct 02, 2011 at 07:51 AM
simula na rebuilding process ng La Salle.. Dindo Pumaren and his coaching staff have resigned..

http://sports.inquirer.net/16327/dindo-pumaren-resigns-as-la-salle-mentor

First it was Jong Uichico who was rumored to coach La Salle next year.  Now, heard from the grapevine that it's gonna be Gee Abanilla and Tanquincen as his assistant coach. 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: brainwashed on Oct 02, 2011 at 09:02 AM
badtrip kasi Adamson nagpatalo sa FEU. sila lang may kayang tumalo sa Ateneo eh. FEU walang ka-play-play kanina.

hindi nagpatalo ang Adamson sa FEU. Tinalo sila ng FEU ;D
malamya kasi ang depensa ng mga guards ng Adamson kina Garcia, Romeo at Tolomia kaya sinaksakan sila ng sinaksakan. Alvarez relied too much on the help defense kaya pag maunahan na siya di na niya hinahabol pa. It was only Canada who really gave it all.

Di umubra yung 3-guard line-up ng FEU sa Ateneo kasi masipag sa individual defense sina Long, Monfort at Ravena pati ang mga pamalit na sina Gonzaga at Austria. kahit saan umikot-ikot sina Garcia, Romeo at Tolomia nakasunod ang mga guards ng Ateneo. Dapat nag-adjust yung coach ng FEU kaso pinilit pa rin niya yung 3-guard line-up. siguro kung si Capacio pa rin ang coach ng FEU baka iba ang kinalabasan.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 02, 2011 at 10:50 AM
First it was Jong Uichico who was rumored to coach La Salle next year.  Now, heard from the grapevine that it's gonna be Gee Abanilla and Tanquincen as his assistant coach. 

I am absolutely sure Tanquincen will not be an assistant coach of any college team anytime soon.. he just got promoted to head coach of Ginebra (co-head coach by name but he's really running the team) and the PBA does not allow head coaches to have another coaching job at another league..

if La Salle wants to depart from the Pumaren system, Uichico would be the most viable candidate.. Abanilla is more of a defensive coach.. and he's good at it.. a tandem of Uichico and Abanilla would be good for La Salle..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Hitman on Oct 02, 2011 at 10:47 PM
Return of the comeback para kay Jong yun kung totoo man. Diba siya nag pinalitan ni Franz dati? Deja vu! ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 02, 2011 at 11:44 PM
Di umubra yung 3-guard line-up ng FEU sa Ateneo kasi masipag sa individual defense sina Long, Monfort at Ravena pati ang mga pamalit na sina Gonzaga at Austria. kahit saan umikot-ikot sina Garcia, Romeo at Tolomia nakasunod ang mga guards ng Ateneo. Dapat nag-adjust yung coach ng FEU kaso pinilit pa rin niya yung 3-guard line-up. siguro kung si Capacio pa rin ang coach ng FEU baka iba ang kinalabasan.

No choice for FEU but to maximize the talents of their 3 guards (Tolomia, Garcia & Romero). They have no players to play the wing position. Wla ksi si JR Cawalig and Exemeniano is also a defensive guard.
They just cant match up with Ateneo.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 03, 2011 at 10:31 PM
Jeron Teng is, supposedly, a 100% lock for UST.

I stand corrected.  The kid seems to want to go to Ateneo.

(http://i51.tinypic.com/idynmu.png)

"Kiko to Iggy" means Francis Xavier (his current school) to Ignatius of Loyola (Ateneo).
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 04, 2011 at 07:00 AM
Jeron Teng to Ateneo? Bigay na natin un 5peat. Its a guarantee.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 04, 2011 at 07:55 AM
I stand corrected.  The kid seems to want to go to Ateneo.

(http://i51.tinypic.com/idynmu.png)

"Kiko to Iggy" means Francis Xavier (his current school) to Ignatius of Loyola (Ateneo).

Can photoshop experts chime in on its authenticity?  Parang kuryente kasi, tsaka too good to be true.

Just to give a background on this kid, he once scored 37 out of 70 field goals in a high school game (yup, one game).  Mostly from the perimeter, too; 104 points in all. :o
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 04, 2011 at 09:52 AM
baka mawalan na ng gana ang mga UAAP supporters if Ateneo will always have the best players in the country.  Ravena and Slaughter won their first championship on their first year, which means they still have 4 more years to play, these 2 alone are unstoppable then another very good player coming, wow, 8 straight championship is not impossible.. 
although it's not their fault if players want to play for them but at least dapat my rules on recruiting HS players..  :) 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Hitman on Oct 04, 2011 at 10:12 AM
I do believe that there are still a lot of good prospects, problema di lang sila nadidiscover coz they're in the province and some not so famous school. If I were to scout prospects I'll start in the visayas and mindanao area. Ang daming may potentials doon given the proper training and education. Masyado kasi nakafocus sa Manila at big universities ang mga teams.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 04, 2011 at 10:56 AM
baka mawalan na ng gana ang mga UAAP supporters if Ateneo will always have the best players in the country.  Ravena and Slaughter won their first championship on their first year, which means they still have 4 more years to play, these 2 alone are unstoppable then another very good player coming, wow, 8 straight championship is not impossible.. 
although it's not their fault if players want to play for them but at least dapat my rules on recruiting HS players..  :) 

I think Slaughter only has 1 year left with Ateneo if he decides not to go pro.. He played 3 years for UV in the CESAFI and that's counted as part of the 5 playing years in the UAAP if a player is a transferee.. but I think he's going to go pro.. wala na kasing challenge sa UAAP for him.. he needs to go pro so he toughens up fast..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 04, 2011 at 11:58 AM
I do believe that there are still a lot of good prospects, problema di lang sila nadidiscover coz they're in the province and some not so famous school. If I were to scout prospects I'll start in the visayas and mindanao area. Ang daming may potentials doon given the proper training and education. Masyado kasi nakafocus sa Manila at big universities ang mga teams.

Actually, aside from the Manila-based schools which usually produce the best junior prospects (usually from SBC, SSC, ADMU, UST, Letran, Mapua, etc) ..... a good majority of those who went on to have great senior & pro careers came from provincial programs.

Right off the bat ..... from the north came guys like Ildefonso, Aquino, Espino, Santos, Meneses, Miller, Tugade, David & many more particularly from Pampanga, Pangasinan, etc.  ..... south has guys like Yap, Limpot, Locsin, Duremdes, Lastimosa, etc.

FEU is a good example of sound provincial-based recruitment ..... ADMU recognizes as well, this since they strategically recruited south-based bigs like Slaughter & Baclao - both instrumental in their recent 'chips.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: brainwashed on Oct 04, 2011 at 11:41 PM
Actually, aside from the Manila-based schools which usually produce the best junior prospects (usually from SBC, SSC, ADMU, UST, Letran, Mapua, etc) ..... a good majority of those who went on to have great senior & pro careers came from provincial programs.

Right off the bat ..... from the north came guys like Ildefonso, Aquino, Espino, Santos, Meneses, Miller, Tugade, David & many more particularly from Pampanga, Pangasinan, etc.  ..... south has guys like Yap, Limpot, Locsin, Duremdes, Lastimosa, etc.

FEU is a good example of sound provincial-based recruitment ..... ADMU recognizes as well, this since they strategically recruited south-based bigs like Slaughter & Baclao - both instrumental in their recent 'chips.


I like how Escoto played in his rookie year. If he beefs up without losing his agility, and with his good touch from the outside, FEU will have a player who can play inside and outside!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 05, 2011 at 01:22 PM
With the Pumarens out of the picture, some sources revealed that Jeron Teng is wearing green for the next UAAP season.
He's gona be the STAR of DLSU.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 05, 2011 at 01:37 PM
They should also convince Tim Cone to coach so it would be more interesting for Norman Black. But what the hell are we doing with UAAP and NCAA? Amateur games are already gone, it became more serious and business only. Gone is school pride with genuine local talents. They should get some more in the north and south like some of you mentioned.

Regarding Jeron Teng, sorry don't know this kid that much but likely he'll go to La Salle because Ateneo is already a superstar team. They still have Ravena and that goofy looking Monfort. Ka height lang yata nung Jeron Teng yung mga yun so no position for him in that team. And likely Xavier kids go green like Yeo and Tang.

By the way, La Salle needs a serious overhaul. Pumarens and Uichico shouldn't enter because they need somebody more serious. By the way, what happened to Uichico's son in Ateneo? Wala yatang nangyari sa batang yun.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: onedown on Oct 05, 2011 at 02:21 PM
krets,

cholo villanueva has been named interim coach of la salle. there are talks that gee abanilla is being considered. as for johann uichico, i think he already graduated.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 05, 2011 at 02:29 PM
Danding is bankrolling La Sall na daw so the chances of Uichico or Abanilla coaching are high.. Cholo Villanueva has just been named interim coach until they finally announce one..

about Jeron Teng, I still think UST has a higher chance of getting him.. his father Alvin seems to be a very involved dad when it comes to his sons' careers so them being in one team seems like a better fit for them..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 05, 2011 at 06:20 PM
Like everyone here, I sure miss the days when UAAP recruitment was on a level playing field ..... most schools then didn't have active scouting arms & mostly relied on their own high-school prospects & walk-in/try-outs.

IMO it all began to unravel in the 90's when DLSU (actually even earlier, DLSU was already recruiting stateside e.g. Lago bros) heavily recruited Filams through US-based sports agent & alumni Mike Gonzales .... right off the bat, Cardona, Cortez, Allado, Wilson, Jose, Ramos, Castro, etc.

To an extent, ADMU took the cue and got their own Filams (Alvarez, Cruz, etc) ...... ADMU's Fr. Caluag saw the negative effects of this & even sent out an editorial of sorts, about the displacement of local prospects all because of the need to win.

Almost parallel with the Filam movement, was the increased recruitment on products from Ato Badolato extremely successful SBC program.

Fast forward to the present, where recruitment has become science & a passion to officials of some teams.

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 05, 2011 at 06:39 PM
i hope jeron teng eventually lands in UST.

UST has done well this year and while Camus is already out next year, the good perfromance of the team this year would surely motivate the rest of the returning players. I have given up on UST for the past several years but this year, gave me great hopes next year.

it should be very rewarding i think for alvin to see both his sons contributing heaviliy to profel UST to greatness again
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 05, 2011 at 06:41 PM
The UAAP season is done but we still have the NCAA to ponder about.
If Letran can beat San Beda this friday, then they'll gain the twice to beat advantage.

I still want San Beda to prove to me that they can win it all via ALL FILIPINO and not with a Big Black African Import.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 05, 2011 at 06:58 PM
The UAAP season is done but we still have the NCAA to ponder about.
If Letran can beat San Beda this friday, then they'll gain the twice to beat advantage.

I still want San Beda to prove to me that they can win it all via ALL FILIPINO and not with a Big Black African Import.

Actually, if Letran wins this Friday and San Beda wins against Baste, playoff sila for the 2nd spot.. Letran already has 3 losses kasi while San Beda only has two.. if Letran plays the same way they played against Baste, delikado ang San Beda and going to the final four, malaking bagay yan for Letran.. I actually see a Letran-San Sebastian finals.. both Letran and San Sebastian have been consistent all season long.. San Beda has been on and off..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 05, 2011 at 07:29 PM
Yes CJLC vs SSC.
 i like that kid Kevin Alas ang kapal ng mukha isnt afraid to take the big shots when the game is on the line.
 sa SSC naman that Pascual is just shining this season.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 05, 2011 at 08:03 PM
Yes CJLC vs SSC.
 i like that kid Kevin Alas ang kapal ng mukha isnt afraid to take the big shots when the game is on the line.
 sa SSC naman that Pascual is just shining this season.

I guess it also has to do with his dad being the coach.. sa Baste, Ian Sangalang is really the big difference this season.. ang laki ng improvement niya.. ang ganda na ng footwork at post moves.. and he's just about to turn 20 years old.. Pascual is the most consistent sa Baste and he's been big in the clutch as well.. tamad lang dumepensa..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 06, 2011 at 12:20 AM
I still foresee SBC vs SSC in the finals.  :D

Letran is peaking at the right time, but the Bedans have been here before and have championship experience.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 06, 2011 at 10:14 AM
I hope my Letran Knights will not have the same fate as Adamson.. beating the the top team in elims then losing in the final 4.. In fairness to Kevin Alas, he still ask his coach dad through eye to eye contact before taking thoses big shots.. and I think sya lang talaga ang pwede..

Ot.. La Salle was so closed on getting him 3 years ago, but his Dad asked him to stick na lang with Letran.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 06, 2011 at 03:29 PM
I hope my Letran Knights will not have the same fate as Adamson.. beating the the top team in elims then losing in the final 4.. In fairness to Kevin Alas, he still ask his coach dad through eye to eye contact before taking thoses big shots.. and I think sya lang talaga ang pwede..

Ot.. La Salle was so closed on getting him 3 years ago, but his Dad asked him to stick na lang with Letran.

I think Louie Alas thinks his son can have more exposure at Letran under his watchful eyes.
Another reason could be that he wants to show loyalty and gratitude to Letran by offering his sons' (Kevin & Kristopher) services coz Letran has been good to him through out the years he served as Letran's Coach.
He wants his family to serve Letran as well.

Btw, that Letran BIG lanky center Almazan if i'm not mistaken can really block shots real hard just like spiking a volleyball. He gonna be the X-factor should Letran gain the twice to beat advantage in this current NCAA season.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Oct 10, 2011 at 02:47 PM
Actually, if Letran wins this Friday and San Beda wins against Baste, playoff sila for the 2nd spot.. Letran already has 3 losses kasi while San Beda only has two.. if Letran plays the same way they played against Baste, delikado ang San Beda and going to the final four, malaking bagay yan for Letran.. I actually see a Letran-San Sebastian finals.. both Letran and San Sebastian have been consistent all season long.. San Beda has been on and off..

Watched the San Beda vs Letran live last Friday at the Filoil Arena.  Despite the many fouls of San Beda courtesy of the whistle-happy referees (penalty situation in just 3 minutes? c'mon refs), the Red Lions still managed to win big vs Letran.  Great defense on Kevin Alas who couldn't get his game going.  And what an offensive onslaught by Lanete, exploding with 28 points.  Also playing heads up was Anthony Semerad who just recovered from dengue and Amer Baser who made some spectacular plays and crossover moves. 

The game on Wednesday will be another exciting match between SBC and SSC.  Should the Red Lions defeat the Stags by more than 2 points, they will be No.1 due to the quotient rule (yes no more playoff game), and face the JRU Heavy Bombers in the Final Four. A loss to San Sebastian however puts them into action again versus Letran.

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Oct 10, 2011 at 02:50 PM
"Letran ended its campaign with a 14-4 record, a huge improvement from their showing last season, when they finished out of the Final Four with a sub-.500, 7-9 card, breaking a streak of seven consecutive post-season appearances..."

Congratulations to Coach Louie Alas and the Letran Knights...
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 10, 2011 at 03:05 PM
According to this article Buenafe might be back next UAAP season and Slaughter hasn't committed yet. Maybe he's going to another league, probably the NCAA in US? Still they will be a team to be reckoned with.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/10/09/11/ateneos-salva-promises-5th-straight-title

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Oct 10, 2011 at 05:39 PM
According to this article Buenafe might be back next UAAP season and Slaughter hasn't committed yet. Maybe he's going to another league, probably the NCAA in US? Still they will be a team to be reckoned with.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/10/09/11/ateneos-salva-promises-5th-straight-title



Greg will either go pro or stay with Ateneo. He won't be considering the US NCAA (or be even recruited by NCAA schools) since he already played 4 years of college ball in the Philippines.

As for Ryan, he was at the bonfire. I hope he gets to play next year. However, if he doesn't it's fine with me as long as he gets to finish his studies in admu.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 11, 2011 at 02:35 PM
i feel Ateneo will be able to convince Greg Slaughter to play his final year and go for the rare 5peat.
As for Ryan, he's gonna be a huge lift he's back for next season now that Kirk Long wont be around anymore.

SSC vs SBC is gonna be war tomorrow.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Oct 11, 2011 at 03:13 PM
i feel Ateneo will be able to convince Greg Slaughter to play his final year and go for the rare 5peat.
As for Ryan, he's gonna be a huge lift he's back for next season now that Kirk Long wont be around anymore.

SSC vs SBC is gonna be war tomorrow.

SBC will do its best to win and force SSC to go up against Letran in the final four, the only team that beat SSC. Despite losing to JRU in the elims, SBC feels that JRU is the lighter opponent.  (Mahirap kalaban si Louie Alas sa semis ).   SSC on the other hand will also do everything to remain on top and have a morale boosting win going into the final four.  Hell, it's war indeed!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 11, 2011 at 03:42 PM
SBC will do its best to win and force SSC to go up against Letran in the final four, the only team that beat SSC. Despite losing to JRU in the elims, SBC feels that JRU is the lighter opponent.  (Mahirap kalaban si Louie Alas sa semis ).   SSC on the other hand will also do everything to remain on top and have a morale boosting win going into the final four.  Hell, it's war indeed!

although I know Letran has a slim chance on beating either Beda or Baste, I would prefer the latter as we already beat them and Beda's D is just too much and very physical.. :)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Oct 11, 2011 at 03:55 PM
although I know Letran has a slim chance on beating either Beda or Baste, I would prefer the latter as we already beat them and Beda's D is just too much and very physical.. :)

San Sebastian is a very good team.  They have three top caliber athletes in Abueva, Pascual and Sanglang. And they have Coach Turo Valenzona as consultant.  "Turing", as he is fondly called, is one of the master tacticians in basketball.  Basta hinawakan ni Valenzona, nag chachampion. 

So just in case your team (Letran) face them in the final 4, go beat the lights out of them ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 11, 2011 at 10:20 PM
for the record i'm siding with SSC in tomorrow's game vs SBC.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 12, 2011 at 01:06 AM
looks like Norman Black's going back to the PBA after next season.. and with this development, I think Ateneo will really try to convince Slaughter to play one more year to get that 5-peat..

http://sports.inquirer.net/20045/norman-black-to-talk-'n-text-chot-reyes-to-smart-gilas-five
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 12, 2011 at 02:53 AM
looks like Norman Black's going back to the PBA after next season.. and with this development, I think Ateneo will really try to convince Slaughter to play one more year to get that 5-peat..

http://sports.inquirer.net/20045/norman-black-to-talk-'n-text-chot-reyes-to-smart-gilas-five

This will be a big blow to Ateneo if he goes.  I hope asst coach Sandy Arespacochaga is up to it.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 12, 2011 at 08:09 AM
^ A good, laid-out plan by the MVP group actually ..... Black would have nothing more left to prove in the UAAP, should he get the 5th one next season.

Toroman as a GILAS consultant would likely be more cheaper than him being the head-coach ..... which makes Reyes a decent head-coach replacement - who employs somewhat similar offensive patterns in his TnT team anyway.

Plus, Chot Reyes works best when handling a loaded, athletic team ..... something which GILAS will still have. 

GILAS 2.0 will still have Douthit, Tiu, Slaughter & Ramos. To fill some of the slots (heard that the PBA is dipping it's hands again soon), they'll likely tap from a pool of Abueva, Pascual, Parks, Ravena, Lanete, Sangalan, Alas, Garcia, etc ..... plus other good prospects like Ferrer, Escoto & even Camus ...... Romeo too, just have him tone down a bit.

Good for Sandy Arespacochaga if he gets the ADMU gig ...... this old classmate of mine has paid his dues & should make for a decent replacement for Black.


Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 12, 2011 at 12:36 PM
i've seen Sandy on the Ateneo bench since the Lipa days so most probably he'll be elevated to head coach anew with Jamike serving as his deputy.

Gilas 2 needs more height, a strong athletic powerforward of at least 6'9 that can run the breaks should help in their succeeding campaigns.

I still feel Toroman should be given another shot, iba ang dating ng foreign coaches sa mga Pinoy. Athletes seem to concentrate more and they're more confident and excited with a foreign coach compared to being coached by a fellow Filipino.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 12, 2011 at 05:36 PM
Convincing win by SBC too bad it isnt over yet. magpapatayan pa ule sila ng SSC for the top spot come Fri.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 13, 2011 at 02:08 AM

Gilas 2 needs more height, a strong athletic powerforward of at least 6'9 that can run the breaks should help in their succeeding campaigns.

Junmar Fajardo fits the bill. 

Too bad Mon Fernandez doesn't want to share his ward with the national team.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 13, 2011 at 09:14 AM
Japet Aguilar has the height and athleticism but he doesnt have the body to bang and of course he doesnt have the head to play consistent basketball. This kid is certainly a waste.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: blackie on Oct 13, 2011 at 10:39 AM
Greg will either go pro or stay with Ateneo. He won't be considering the US NCAA (or be even recruited by NCAA schools) since he already played 4 years of college ball in the Philippines.

As for Ryan, he was at the bonfire. I hope he gets to play next year. However, if he doesn't it's fine with me as long as he gets to finish his studies in admu.

Anybody know why he was not scouted earlier?  He played ball in Cebu right before this season right?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 13, 2011 at 01:38 PM
Anybody know why he was not scouted earlier?  He played ball in Cebu right before this season right?

I think the UAAP and NCAA teams weren't willing to gamble on him then.. and his mom being a Cebuana made it easier for him to play in Cebu.. napansin siya dahil dun sa match-up nila ni Junmar Fajardo of UC.. he was really not impressive when he started.. malaki lang.. but when he and Fajardo started playing against each other, nagkaroon na ng skills..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 13, 2011 at 03:38 PM
i have no knowledge of this Junmar Fajardo. How big is he? Is he a mobile big man that's athletic and also have the skills to fit a run and gun team?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 13, 2011 at 03:50 PM
i have no knowledge of this Junmar Fajardo. How big is he? Is he a mobile big man that's athletic and also have the skills to fit a run and gun team?

Fajardo is a legit 6'9" ..... he's very slow, hence we wont be seeing him in fastbreaks anytime soon.

However, he has very good hands (which is essential for post players) and has more than decent skills around the post. He's clearly a lot better than Slaughter.

He didn't make the jump to the PBA D-League last season - even for a few games, which would have made him eligible for the recent PBA draft (POWERADE was willing to make him the top pick, if he entered).

Word is, he'll make the jump to the ABL instead ...... likely for the SMC team.

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 13, 2011 at 04:12 PM
Fajardo's already signed with San Miguel in the ABL.. he has a better post game than Slaughter and a decent mid-range jumper.. we won't be seeing him with Gilas now that he has signed with SMB..

next year's PBA draft would actually be interesting if both Fajardo and Slaughter apply.. at 23-24 years old by then, they have time to mature and be the next dominant big men in the country.. barring any serious injury..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Oct 13, 2011 at 06:09 PM
Convincing win by SBC too bad it isnt over yet. magpapatayan pa ule sila ng SSC for the top spot come Fri.


Watched this game up close.  Nice view from the courtside (near the scorer's table).  Perfect defense by the Lions, shutting down Pascual and frustrating Abueva.  Hindi gumana yun Big 3 ng Baste.  While the offense of San Beda, particularly Lanete and Semerad clicked.  Funny thing is, NCAA decided to go for a playoff.  Before kasi quotient system lang as announced last game even by the broadcasters.  Oh well, sayang din naman ang gate receipts. 

So the Elimination Trilogy happens tomorrow.  Hope I can watch again, if my schedule permits ;D

(http://images3a.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp73449%3Enu%3D3268%3E%3A7%3B%3E335%3EWSNRCG%3D36%3A438424%3B32%3Bnu0mrj)

(http://images3a.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp73432%3Enu%3D3268%3E%3A7%3B%3E335%3EWSNRCG%3D36%3A438893832%3Bnu0mrj)
(http://images3a.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp73432%3Enu%3D3268%3E%3A7%3B%3E335%3EWSNRCG%3D36%3A438425232%3Bnu0mrj)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 14, 2011 at 02:20 PM
its Anthony Semerad thats givin SBC a great lift. His 3pt shooting is hurting their opponents and he's getting more confidence as his shots are falling in.
Calvin Abueva is like a loose train, wala sa direction ang mga tira nyang alahoy eh si Mac Cardona lng ang pinakaconsistent sa ganun klaseng tear drop shots.

So far SBC is playing very well as a team and living up to the challenge that they can win even w/o an import.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 14, 2011 at 09:39 PM
Just learned that SBC beat SSC to clinch the top spot.
It seems SBC is peaking at the right time, they are ROCK SOLID in their last 3 games so i'm begining to believe they really are worthy to win this season's championship.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Oct 15, 2011 at 03:45 PM
Just learned that SBC beat SSC to clinch the top spot.
It seems SBC is peaking at the right time, they are ROCK SOLID in their last 3 games so i'm begining to believe they really are worthy to win this season's championship.

What a thriller of a game.  It was a shootout match between Abueva(26 points) and Lanete(27 pts).  Abueva had a monster of a game with 12 rebounds, 6 assists but it was Lanete's overall offensive brilliance that stood out.  His two treys coming in the last 2 minutes, the last one for the lead with 18 seconds left gave the Lions the win.  Classic game indeed.   
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 15, 2011 at 04:05 PM
They'll have their REAL BATTLE come next week.
Its gonna be FOR REAL!!!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 18, 2011 at 11:36 AM
Looks like UPSET in the making as Letran beat SSC to force a rubber natch.
SBC looks good and now await their Finals opponent.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 18, 2011 at 12:46 PM
Looks like UPSET in the making as Letran beat SSC to force a rubber natch.
SBC looks good and now await their Finals opponent.

complete game by Letran, rubber match tom..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Oct 18, 2011 at 01:54 PM
Kontrapelo.  That's what Letran is to Baste.  This favors San Beda as they now have more days to rest and prepare for the finals on Monday.

Looking good for the Red Lions.  Hwag lang magbago yun laro nila particularly their tough defense and I think they will be able to defend their crown. 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: frootloops on Oct 18, 2011 at 01:56 PM
Go San Beda fight!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Oct 18, 2011 at 02:40 PM
Go San Beda fight!

Umpah, Umpah! Heyukimkumkawah! ;D

It would be nice to win and prove to everyone that San Beda can do it without a black import ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 19, 2011 at 01:47 AM
I really think SBC has what it takes to win this year.

And if Abatayo goes to Mendiola (from Taytay) and Sudan goes back healthy, it could be another great season in 2012.  :D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Oct 19, 2011 at 08:07 AM
I really think SBC has what it takes to win this year.

And if Abatayo goes to Mendiola (from Taytay) and Sudan goes back healthy, it could be another great season in 2012.  :D

And don't forget Adeogun Ola!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 19, 2011 at 05:48 PM
so it's Baste and Beda again! Letran put up a good fight but Baste just wanted it more.. Abueva not in foul trouble is always the key for Baste..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 19, 2011 at 07:39 PM
Great game, kahit talo ok na rin.. We gave a good fight..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 20, 2011 at 11:04 PM
so it's Abanilla for La Salle.. I wonder how he'd solve DLSU's offensive troubles seeing as he's more of a defense-oriented coach..

http://sports.inquirer.net/21135/la-salle-set-to-name-gee-abanilla-head-coach
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 21, 2011 at 02:49 AM
DLSU has the potential to be a great half-court defensive team. They have size and the speed to do it, especially if the UAAP sticks to the farther 3 point line.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 21, 2011 at 03:32 PM
DLSU has the potential to be a great half-court defensive team. They have size and the speed to do it, especially if the UAAP sticks to the farther 3 point line.

they have to inject a take charge guy as their players are all very inconsistent.
their 2 years set backs are becoz they just dont have enough firepower.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 22, 2011 at 03:23 PM
SBC vs SSC Game 1 Finals on Monday.
Lions are RED HOT!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 22, 2011 at 05:01 PM
the Stags need production from their guards.. dito na talaga nila mararamdaman yung pagkawala ni Semira.. Del Rio has been non-existent all season.. he plays a lot of minutes but there's little production from him.. on a slump pa naman si Pascual.. kung walang tutulong sa Big 3 ng Baste, this is going to be another San Beda sweep..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 22, 2011 at 05:34 PM
the Stags need production from their guards.. dito na talaga nila mararamdaman yung pagkawala ni Semira.. Del Rio has been non-existent all season.. he plays a lot of minutes but there's little production from him.. on a slump pa naman si Pascual.. kung walang tutulong sa Big 3 ng Baste, this is going to be another San Beda sweep..

SBC seems to have adjusted playing w/o Daniels and the cohesiveness of the team is showing in their last few games. They are just peaking at the right time.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 24, 2011 at 06:30 PM
SBC got game 1

first time i watched abvueva that long, mukhang kailnagan nyang mag adjust sa diskarte nya, he was the mvp but all i see in him kanina is yung sheer strength and galing, siguro gigil lang talag pero ang sama ng mga diskarte nya kanina, pilit na pilit yung mga tira nya kaya puro sapal ang inaabot

on another note, may anak na din pala si paras na nag lalaro, ang tnagkad at mukhang lalabas din na magaling eh.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 24, 2011 at 07:52 PM
Convincing win by the RED Lions, somehow its Clear. They really can win w/o their Black IMPORT.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Oct 25, 2011 at 10:44 AM
SBC got game 1

first time i watched abvueva that long, mukhang kailnagan nyang mag adjust sa diskarte nya, he was the mvp but all i see in him kanina is yung sheer strength and galing, siguro gigil lang talag pero ang sama ng mga diskarte nya kanina, pilit na pilit yung mga tira nya kaya puro sapal ang inaabot

on another note, may anak na din pala si paras na nag lalaro, ang tnagkad at mukhang lalabas din na magaling eh.

The Stags was in the game 3/4 of the way.  It was close, until Abueva lost it -- giving cheap shots after cheap shots.  He's good, no doubt.  He's the MVP.  And I thought he got rid of his "foolishness" in the court already, making him a really complete player.  But nope. He's still the "Beast", literally.  All brawns, no brains.  I mean, if you're the MVP and the heart and soul of the team, you gotta lead.  You gotta get past the emo.  Di pwedeng larong kalye Calvin.  He even taunted head coach Frankie Lim with an elbow motion while he was at the SBC bench.  This prompted Lim's son Melo to stand up and almost hit Abueva but Frankie Lim stopped Melo and calmed him.  So that's less one ticket to the PBA if Abueva wants to turn pro.  Di talaga nagiisip tong batang to.  Sayang, I hope he improves his mental tenacity because he is a very promising player.

On the other hand, San Beda really has a deep bench.  Lanete was shut down with only 6 points and was nowhere in the last 5 minutes but the bench of San Beda stepped up particularly Villahermosa (best player of game) and Amer Baser.

Game tomorrow is at 11:50am at the Araneta :o  Super aga noh? 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 25, 2011 at 10:52 AM
kasalanan ng mga referees kung bakit naging madumi yung laro kahapon.. ang inconsistent ng tawagan kahapon.. konting tapik, foul.. siniko na, walang tawag.. kahit sino mapipikon sa tawagan ng referees.. San Beda is going to win this but sana naman hayaan nila yung mga player maglaro..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 25, 2011 at 03:16 PM
Its gonna be a highly emotional and physical game tomorrow.
All praises for BIG Daddy Marcelo for finally filling up the BIG shoe vacated by their BLACK IMPORT.
Even Coach Frankie had mentioned in the past few games that Marcelo has already established his game due to the absence of Daniels.
Its gonna be the sweetest Championship for Frankie Lim and the SBC community if they can finish SSC tomorrow.


KEY to SSC win : Get other players involve. Their BEAST is vulnerable.
KEY to SBC win : Stay focus, contain the BEAST and let it run out of control.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: pa3ck608 on Oct 26, 2011 at 03:15 PM
ayan champion ulit kahit walang import. congrats sa lahat ng bedista! U.I.O.G.D.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 26, 2011 at 03:59 PM
Congrats to Coach Frankie Lim and the 2011 San Beda Red Lions.
You deserve it. You've proven you are worthy of being the Champion.
There's just too much pride to win with an ALL-Filipino Line up.
You've proven to me that you can win without your Black Import.
I hope the Legacy continues.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Oct 26, 2011 at 04:07 PM
What a game!  Just got back from Araneta and it was a thriller indeed.  Buti na lang hindi pumasok yun 3 point shot ni Pascual in the dying seconds.  Had that went in, iyak lahat ng mga nakapula!  It was a low scoring ballgame, with both teams defending well.  Lanete again was shut down by the defense of the Stags but again, Dave Marcelo, Amer Baser and Semerad took up the cudgels. Marcelo's rebounding and timely baskets carried the Lions and he was awarded the Finals MVP.

Congratulations to the back to back NCAA champions and at All Filipino at that.   Let's end all talks that San Beda cannot win without an import.  

Will try to post pics in a while.... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 26, 2011 at 08:02 PM
Marcelo getting Finals MVP was something I didn't expect.

Kudos to the Lions!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 26, 2011 at 09:06 PM
Marcelo getting Finals MVP was something I didn't expect.

Kudos to the Lions!

He was San Beda's TOWER OF POWER, their SOLID ROCK in defense.
He just had a break out season. I'm looking forward to see him slug it out in the PBA.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Dec 01, 2011 at 04:03 PM
PCCL Final four na sa December 5.. rematch ang labanan agad.. San Beda vs. Baste tapos Slaughter vs. Fajardo sa Ateneo vs. UC.. round robin din ngayon yung Final 4.. looking forward to how Fajardo will play against the Manila teams.. he scored 49pts and hauled down 24rebs 2 days ago sa last 16 stage.. and his team scored 99.. kalahati sa kanya.. ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Dec 02, 2011 at 04:17 AM
Studio23 din ba? I'd like to watch this.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Dec 02, 2011 at 11:33 AM
Studio23 din ba? I'd like to watch this.

yup.. studio 23 din.. live simula dec. 5..

on other news naman, I just read on twitter na binugbog daw ng SBC men's basketball team ang coach ng Baste women's volleyball team.. pati daw libero sinuntok..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Dec 02, 2011 at 02:13 PM
(http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz198/b-filmmaker/Afo3UgBCQAIr0Km.jpg)

that's the Baste coach on the ground..

this is going to make the Final 4 match on Monday even more interesting.. the Baste men's volleyball team and the Baste women's team coach called Beda's Ola Adeogun unggoy daw kaya nagkagulo.. Gorayeb, the Baste coach, threw the first punch daw tapos sinugod na siya.. one of Baste's lady players was also hit in the face.. si Crisostomo..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: brainwashed on Dec 02, 2011 at 06:57 PM
(http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz198/b-filmmaker/Afo3UgBCQAIr0Km.jpg)

that's the Baste coach on the ground..

this is going to make the Final 4 match on Monday even more interesting.. the Baste men's volleyball team and the Baste women's team coach called Beda's Ola Adeogun unggoy daw kaya nagkagulo.. Gorayeb, the Baste coach, threw the first punch daw tapos sinugod na siya.. one of Baste's lady players was also hit in the face.. si Crisostomo..

puro daw! hehe ;D puro side ata ng San Beda ang lumabas sa media.
This happened at San Beda yata. Dapat di na pinatulan ni Frankie Lim at pinaawat na lang yung sagutan at asaran. kahit na ba tinawag na unggoy yung foreigner nilang player dapat di na pinalaki pa yung usapan. kaso kung minsan takaw away rin si frankie lim e. ;D matapang rin magsalita kaya imbis na hihinahon lalong lalala ang sagutan.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Dec 02, 2011 at 07:03 PM
(http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz198/b-filmmaker/Afo3UgBCQAIr0Km.jpg)

that's the Baste coach on the ground..

this is going to make the Final 4 match on Monday even more interesting.. the Baste men's volleyball team and the Baste women's team coach called Beda's Ola Adeogun unggoy daw kaya nagkagulo.. Gorayeb, the Baste coach, threw the first punch daw tapos sinugod na siya.. one of Baste's lady players was also hit in the face.. si Crisostomo..

Whole story:  http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/brawl-erupts-between-san-sebastian-volleyball-san-beda-basketball-teams (http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/brawl-erupts-between-san-sebastian-volleyball-san-beda-basketball-teams)

O eto buong kwento direct mismo from a spectator:  Actually nagsimula sa labas ng gym. May game ang Volleyball team ng Baste.  Lumabas si Ola and some women players started teasing him, Unggoy Unggoy thinking na di nakakaintindi ng tagalog.  Instead of confronting the girls, Ola went to Coach Frankie Lim. Nagsumbong.  Natural, Coach Frankie went to the girls at pinagsabihan.  Huwag naman daw bastos.  And Frankie came on strong.  Etong mga babae naman nagsumbong sa coach nila.  Si Coach, dahil nga sobrang tapang (grabe sa tapang talaga), pinuntahan si Frankie Lim without even knowing the whole story, and said something like "idiot Ka pala eh".  Naturalmente, nagsiklab si Frankie.  Hinabol si Coach na tumakbo, of all places, sa loob ng gym pa ng San Beda where the Basketball team was still practicing!  Ayun he got one solid punch from Frankie Lim, fell to the floor and got several pa from some players.  Swerte nya inawat ng mga girls nya.  Unang una, these Baste volleyball players shouldn't go around hurling racial slurs to people.  That's bastos kahit saan mo tignan.  Pangalawa, etong Coach naman should have cleared first with Frankie Lim what happened before asking for a fight.  Frankie did the right thing na pagalitan yun mga volleyball players.  Also, the Baste Coach asked for it.  He got what he deserved ;D

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Dec 02, 2011 at 08:18 PM
seriously?! all that because a guy got teased by girls? ano yan elementary?

bakit sa interview ni Lim sa ANC kanina, men's team daw ng Baste nanukso? sabi rin ni Gorayeb..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 02, 2011 at 08:32 PM
hard to react pero dapat naging mas sober si frankie lim, di naman pwedeng itama ng mali ang isa pang mali eh

dapat pinalagpas na lang nya pero depende din siguro sa tao eh, for someone like me na di naman nakipag away eversince, kaya ko palagpasin pero knowing frankie lim, hot headed sya even nung nasa pba pa eh kaya im not surprise about the reaksyon

eto lang problema, magdedemanda yung nagulpi eh di laking isyu pa
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Dec 03, 2011 at 06:09 AM
(http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/assets/2011/12/san-beda-melee-2.jpg)
(http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/assets/2011/12/san-beda-melee.jpg)

Narecord daw sa CCTV.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: brainwashed on Dec 03, 2011 at 10:06 AM
Whole story:  http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/brawl-erupts-between-san-sebastian-volleyball-san-beda-basketball-teams (http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/brawl-erupts-between-san-sebastian-volleyball-san-beda-basketball-teams)

O eto buong kwento direct mismo from a spectator:  Actually nagsimula sa labas ng gym. May game ang Volleyball team ng Baste.  Lumabas si Ola and some women players started teasing him, Unggoy Unggoy thinking na di nakakaintindi ng tagalog.  Instead of confronting the girls, Ola went to Coach Frankie Lim. Nagsumbong.  Natural, Coach Frankie went to the girls at pinagsabihan.  Huwag naman daw bastos.  And Frankie came on strong.  Etong mga babae naman nagsumbong sa coach nila.  Si Coach, dahil nga sobrang tapang (grabe sa tapang talaga), pinuntahan si Frankie Lim without even knowing the whole story, and said something like "idiot Ka pala eh".  Naturalmente, nagsiklab si Frankie.  Hinabol si Coach na tumakbo, of all places, sa loob ng gym pa ng San Beda where the Basketball team was still practicing!  Ayun he got one solid punch from Frankie Lim, fell to the floor and got several pa from some players.  Swerte nya inawat ng mga girls nya.  Unang una, these Baste volleyball players shouldn't go around hurling racial slurs to people.  That's bastos kahit saan mo tignan.  Pangalawa, etong Coach naman should have cleared first with Frankie Lim what happened before asking for a fight.  Frankie did the right thing na pagalitan yun mga volleyball players.  Also, the Baste Coach asked for it.  He got what he deserved ;D



This definitely is not what San Beda teaches. You don't hit someone who is already down and defenseless. At kailangan pa bang awatin ng mga babae. hindi swerte yung coach dahil inawat ng mga girls, swerte yung coach kasi ang katapangan ng mga nanuntok at nanadyak ay hanggang sa makalamang lamang. At kung kabastusan man ang manlait mas kabastusan naman ang pagtrato ng di mabuti sa iyong mga panauhin.

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Dec 05, 2011 at 01:39 PM
The biggest college players face off in a few minutes at Philippine Collegiate Champions League:


Ateneo De Manila vs. University of Cebu
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Dec 05, 2011 at 02:18 PM
maganda talaga yung footwork ni Fajardo.. tumatalon pa nga.. playing for Bobby Parks and Alex English will improve his game a lot.. he'll be a force when he plays for Ginebra/Petron in the PBA next season.. ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Dec 05, 2011 at 03:20 PM
maganda talaga yung footwork ni Fajardo.. tumatalon pa nga.. playing for Bobby Parks and Alex English will improve his game a lot.. he'll be a force when he plays for Ginebra/Petron in the PBA next season.. ;D

Former NBA player Alex English is his personal skills coach, and with Bobby Parks also there, we might see this guy bring the Philippines to the next level.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Dec 05, 2011 at 04:29 PM
maganda talaga yung footwork ni Fajardo.. tumatalon pa nga.. playing for Bobby Parks and Alex English will improve his game a lot.. he'll be a force when he plays for Ginebra/Petron in the PBA next season.. ;D

Yup, it's like one big SMC "setup" from the start ..... POWERADE management was quoted to tab Fajardo with the 1st overall pick, during the recent PBA 2011 draft (even with the presence of the GILAS boys).

Everyone is that high on this guy ..... like I said, he's must better than Slaughter - even after Slaughter's gig with GILAS.

It was quite a mystery when Fajardo didn't sign-up with any PBA D-League team - which is a requirement for PBA draft eligibility. Even a 2-game stint was enough to be eligibile, yet Fajardo did not sign-up with any D-League team.

Lo and behold, it turns out that Fajardo will play for SMC's ABL team.

With GINEBRA & PETRON having an additional 1st round pick next year (aside from their own picks) - thanks to BARAKO BULL & SHOPINAS respectively ..... it's very likely that Fajardo goes SMC next year.

Hehe, Bert Lina's pimp teams have done it again ..... it's so effin' obvious and blatant, that one can only shake his head in disgust.


Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Dec 05, 2011 at 05:33 PM
but I'd rather see someone like Fajardo, who really has great promise, on an SMC/MVP team where he can get the proper training.. selfish man yung reasons but at least matuturuan yung bata.. at 22, ang laki pa ng room for improvement nito.. and playing for Parks and English will be a good start..

if he applied in the last draft and got picked by Powerade, his improvement would have stalled.. there would be no growth in a team like Powerade under Perasol and Baylon.. swerte nga rin siya at Mon Fernandez trained him while he was in UC.. ang baba kasi talaga ng level of competition sa Cesafi compared to the UAAP/NCAA.. I watched a couple of his games every time I went home dati sa Cebu and I was really impressed with his foot work.. di kagaya ni Feighl na flat-footed.. maganda yung drop step.. mabait nga lang kaya medyo kulang sa aggressiveness minsan..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: hotrod on Dec 05, 2011 at 06:14 PM

PCCL: Ateneo handily defeats University of Cebu

MANILA, Philippines—Ateneo barely broke a sweat in the 100-53 dismantling of University of Cebu Monday in the final four of 2011 Philippine Collegiate Champions League at the Arena in San Juan.

In the clash of the towering centers, the seven-foot Greg Slaughter got the better of the 6-foot-11 June Mar Fajardo in  the anticipated match-up with 18 points, 11 rebounds and a block.

Fajardo, who will be playing for the San Miguel team in the ASEAN Basketball League (ABL) this coming January after his stint with the UC Webmasters, scattered 12 points and hauled down nine boards in the 14 minutes he spent in the court.

http://sports.inquirer.net/27903/pccl-ateneo-handily-defeats-university-of-cebu (http://sports.inquirer.net/27903/pccl-ateneo-handily-defeats-university-of-cebu)

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Dec 05, 2011 at 06:28 PM
^^ In this PBA age wherein the traditional big man is rare - Fajardo's development will still progress, regardless of any team who picks him IMO.

Yup, he'll likely wont win much with Perasol's POWERADE; but he will get the minutes - which is not at all guaranteed with SMC's ultra-loaded lineups.

SMC does have Alex English - but his contract is up after a few months ..... Parks, though a legend in his own right, is still untested in the coaching field.

If anything, the best coach for Fajardo would be Norman Black (the best bigs/fundamental coach we've seen in quite some time) .... or Yeng Guiao (if anyone can transform sheep into lions, it would be Guiao).

I agree that Fajardo sorely lacks the swagger that a young Ildefonso, Adducul, Espino, Aquino, etc had many years ago.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 12, 2011 at 03:45 PM
im currently watching the finals of the PCCL, Calvin Abueva may be the best amateur player but certainly the player with the worst court attitude too, if this guy will not chnage, i dont think he will see some great playing years in the pro, sobrang yabang
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Dec 12, 2011 at 06:51 PM
^ Exactly ..... Abueva has to be one of the most athletic forwards seen in the past decade. Incredible hops.

But too much swagger for this guy, right now ..... swagger could be a good thing in the pros actually - just needs a good combination of (alpha) veteran co-players & the right coaching.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 12, 2011 at 07:19 PM
^ Exactly ..... Abueva has to be one of the most athletic forwards seen in the past decade. Incredible hops.

But too much swagger for this guy, right now ..... swagger could be a good thing in the pros actually - just needs a good combination of (alpha) veteran co-players & the right coaching.

i hope he turns out to be coachable sir newwave otherwise di sya magtatagal baka puro trade ang abutin becuase of attitude problem.

too much errors again as usual. masyadong gigil na gigil kaya naagawan pag drive sa basket.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: frootloops on Dec 13, 2011 at 08:25 AM
Defection

By Guest Blogger Pio Garcia, December 12, 2011

I think most basketball heads here in the Philippines were shocked about the Semerad twins’ sudden transfer to Ateneo. Include me among those people. I never foresaw this one. Talk about being blindsided hard. In any case, this was worse than what LeBron James did to Cleveland.

FULL STORY  (http://www.philstar.com/unblogged/blog-entry.aspx?articleid=757645)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Dec 13, 2011 at 04:32 PM
i hope he turns out to be coachable sir newwave otherwise di sya magtatagal baka puro trade ang abutin becuase of attitude problem.

too much errors again as usual. masyadong gigil na gigil kaya naagawan pag drive sa basket.

Abueva reminds me of Nelson "The Bull" Asaystono.  Magaling at malakas pero pagdating sa diskarte ng end game, nawawala.  As compared to say, the Captain Patrimonio na kamador sa crunch time.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 13, 2011 at 05:38 PM
Defection

By Guest Blogger Pio Garcia, December 12, 2011

I think most basketball heads here in the Philippines were shocked about the Semerad twins’ sudden transfer to Ateneo. Include me among those people. I never foresaw this one. Talk about being blindsided hard. In any case, this was worse than what LeBron James did to Cleveland.

FULL STORY  (http://www.philstar.com/unblogged/blog-entry.aspx?articleid=757645)

why is this being allowed? nasa school level pa lang eh commercialized na ang mag diskarte ng player

wala bang batas ang liga against things like this?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: ivannn on Dec 14, 2011 at 03:41 PM
why is this being allowed? nasa school level pa lang eh commercialized na ang mag diskarte ng player

wala bang batas ang liga against things like this?

ang batas lang ata sa kanila is parang:

if player is from ncaa and transfers to uaap and vice versa - sit out 1 year
if player is transferring to a different college or university within the same league (UAAP or NCAA) - sit out 2 years

and counted pa rin sa 5 year playing eligibility ang years played with previous league, im not sure lang if included sa counting ang "sit-out" period
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Dec 14, 2011 at 10:23 PM
i find it ridiculous that the Somerand Twins transfered to ADMU despite havin major contributions to SBCs success in the NCAA.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Dec 15, 2011 at 06:36 AM
I think their handler had, uh, a hand in this.

College players should not be allowed to have managers.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Dec 16, 2011 at 09:02 AM
So the twins sit out 2 years before they can be eligible playing for ADMU in the UAAP?
Correct me if i'm wrong but these twins already played for SBC in three of their NCAA campaigns right?

Btw, the SSC vs ADMU game yesterday, who won?
I wasnt able to get hold of a newspaper early today.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Dec 16, 2011 at 10:29 AM
San Sebastian is the first NCAA school to win the Philippine Collegiate Champions League.

They beat Ateneo 73-67. 

Calvin Abueva carried the Stags with a beastly 20 points, 17 rebounds and 3 blocked shots.  The most telling stats were actually his 3 assists, with the last 2 swinging the win to Baste.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Dec 16, 2011 at 10:48 AM
San Sebastian is the first NCAA school to win the Philippine Collegiate Champions League.

They beat Ateneo 73-67. 

Calvin Abueva carried the Stags with a beastly 20 points, 17 rebounds and 3 blocked shots.  The most telling stats were actually his 3 assists, with the last 2 swinging the win to Baste.

so somehow the STAGS were able to redeem themselves after losing to SBC in the NCAA.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: krets pulpol on Jan 16, 2012 at 04:18 PM
Xavier's Teng will play for La Salle

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/01/16/12/xaviers-teng-will-play-la-salle

Is this the kid some of you mentioned last year? Panapat kay Kiefer Ravena?

La Salle should work for great forwards and the best point guard. Again it would take years to rebuild so I don't see any crown for them.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jan 16, 2012 at 05:34 PM
Xavier's Teng will play for La Salle

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/01/16/12/xaviers-teng-will-play-la-salle

Is this the kid some of you mentioned last year? Panapat kay Kiefer Ravena?

La Salle should work for great forwards and the best point guard. Again it would take years to rebuild so I don't see any crown for them.

Yes Jeron Teng, the youngest son of former PBA player Alvin (ROBOCOP) Teng, wearing the green and white uniforms of the DLSU this coming UAAP Season.
After a meeting at the SMB headquarters, the kid accompanied by his parents and sister went to DLSU to confirm that he will study and play for La Salle.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Jan 16, 2012 at 05:51 PM
I was hoping he would play with big brother Jeric for the Gold & White.  

Good for DLSU getting the younger Teng - they'll likely make the Final Four again ..... Franz Pumaren's former RP Youth "recruits" are not getting it done e.g. Marata, etc

No coincidence that the season that Danding "Pacman" Cojuangco retakes the lead godfather role for DLSU ..... they also get the best prospect available.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jan 16, 2012 at 06:31 PM
I was hoping he would play with big brother Jeric for the Gold & White.  

Good for DLSU getting the younger Teng - they'll likely make the Final Four again ..... Franz Pumaren's former RP Youth "recruits" are not getting it done e.g. Marata, etc

No coincidence that the season that Danding "Pacman" Cojuangco retakes the lead godfather role for DLSU ..... they also get the best prospect available.

Alvin Teng is very loyal to SMC / ECJ. If it was not for franz, Jeric Teng would have went to DLSU. Since Jeric was cut from the RP Youth and had a falling out with Franz, they went to UST. Now that ECJ is actively back and the pumarens are out, Jeron Teng will be playing for DLSU. This year seems a very shallow year in terms of talent for the recruitment wars.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 16, 2012 at 07:43 PM
I was hoping he would play with big brother Jeric for the Gold & White.  

Good for DLSU getting the younger Teng - they'll likely make the Final Four again ..... Franz Pumaren's former RP Youth "recruits" are not getting it done e.g. Marata, etc

No coincidence that the season that Danding "Pacman" Cojuangco retakes the lead godfather role for DLSU ..... they also get the best prospect available.

sayang i was hoping mag UST sya para mas lumakas naman di pala natuloy
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jan 17, 2012 at 12:32 AM


Good for DLSU getting the younger Teng - they'll likely make the Final Four again .....

Not necessarily, but they are good on paper.  They have no issues filling out any position and they should be competitive next year.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jan 17, 2012 at 12:37 AM
Not necessarily, but they are good on paper.  They have no issues filling out any position and they should be competitive next year.

We'll see how they fare with Tallo at the point and Teng playing SG(?). They need to have the ball in their hands most of the time to be effective. We'll get to see how Jeron will adjust to playing against stronger and bigger players in the UAAP.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Jan 17, 2012 at 04:54 AM
Not necessarily, but they are good on paper.  They have no issues filling out any position and they should be competitive next year.

I'm thinking that ADU and/or FEU will have a significant drop in their previous standings - given that many key players have already used up their eligibility e.g. FEU (Ramos, Cawaling, Noundou & Exciminiano) & ADU (Alvarez, Colina, Canada & Lozada). 

UST might also take a dip, despite losing only Camus - who is one of the best do-it-all glue-guys in amateur basketball.

UE & UP are still too raw to contend ..... ADMU is the only sureshot to make it the Final Four ..... NU with it's intact line-up, will likely make it this time.

DLSU has a very good chance of re-entering the Final Four.   

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jan 17, 2012 at 09:13 AM
Ateneo remains the team to beat this coming UAAP season.
I think UST and NU plus DLSU will complte the cast of the Final 4.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: ivannn on Jan 17, 2012 at 09:28 AM
who are the bigshot rookies for the upcoming ncaa / uaap season and where will they be playing?

is ryan buenafe suiting up for admu?
is arvie bringas suiting up for feu?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Jan 17, 2012 at 10:02 AM
Teng looks like the lead in a shallow batch of rookies.

No word yet on Buenafe - but if he does suit up for ADMU, it will be good times once more down Katipunan.

Arvie Bringas ..... cant recall when he left DLSU, but he has to serve 2-yrs residency with FEU - dont know when he becomes eligible.

Good for FEU if ever Bringas gets to play this season - he's tough just like his brother. He'll be a decent replacement for Noundou.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jan 17, 2012 at 10:07 AM
Teng looks like the lead in a shallow batch of rookies.

No word yet on Buenafe - but if he does suit up for ADMU, it will be good times once more down Katipunan.

Arvie Bringas ..... cant recall when he left DLSU, but he has to serve 2-yrs residency with FEU - dont know when he becomes eligible.

Good for FEU if ever Bringas gets to play this season - he's tough just like his brother. He'll be a decent replacement for Noundou.

Arvie Bringas is an undersized power forward so he didnt click much in DLSU.
I really doubt if he can make an impact with FEU.

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: ivannn on Jan 17, 2012 at 10:26 AM
and his style of play didnt match the structured game of dlsu.

hopefully he blossoms with feu.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jan 17, 2012 at 10:46 AM
and his style of play didnt match the structured game of dlsu.

hopefully he blossoms with feu.

DLSU under the Pumaren system is basically a suffocating pressing defense than forces turn overs for opportunities to quick baskets while preventing opposing teams' defenses to set up.
Pumaren's years of success with DLSU were with very talented backcourt players like Ritualo, Cortez, Cardona, Yeo, Casio with were good on the open court.
Those years, DLSU doesnt really have dominant Centers and Power Forwards w/c other team had but they were successful.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Jan 17, 2012 at 10:52 AM
Arvie Bringas did show flashes of brilliance during his short stint with DLSU ..... saw a few games wherein he ruled the paint.

The kid was immature when he entered DLSU - probably due to the hype he got coming from his great juniors stint.

Agreed that his game was a bit ill-suited for Pumaren's offense ..... also didn't help that the kid had academic issues in school.

The extended rest & seeing his brother doing good, might just spur him to do better ...... good for FEU if he becomes eligible this upcoming season.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: ivannn on Jan 17, 2012 at 11:12 AM
i think arvie bringas will be eligible (having served the 2 year residency already). tamang tama lang din kasi wala na si aldrech ramos, cawaling and noundou.

sa mga upcoming rookies, may super rookie/s ba na padating?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: puffalan84 on Jan 17, 2012 at 11:20 AM
Teng looks like the lead in a shallow batch of rookies.

No word yet on Buenafe - but if he does suit up for ADMU, it will be good times once more down Katipunan.

Arvie Bringas ..... cant recall when he left DLSU, but he has to serve 2-yrs residency with FEU - dont know when he becomes eligible.

Good for FEU if ever Bringas gets to play this season - he's tough just like his brother. He'll be a decent replacement for Noundou.

I think 1 year lang and residency di ba.. imagine Bringas brothers and 2 good guards of FEU at the same time.. but I really like NU's chances, sana may makuha silang Point Guard to compliment Parks..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: ivannn on Jan 17, 2012 at 11:55 AM
2 year residency if college / university na nilipatan is within same community (uaap or ncaa) so if dlsu siya dati and then lipat feu - 2 years dapat. pero kung ginawa niya is dlsu and then balik ng baste eh 1 year residency lang need niya.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jan 18, 2012 at 09:55 AM
Speaking of Jeron Teng, he and his Xavier High Stallions just lost by 6 points to the Hope Christian High School team at the Metro Manila Tiong Lian Basketball Tournament last night at the UNO Gymnasium.
Its gona be quite a challenge for him to finish his last year in High School with a Championship.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: ivannn on Jan 25, 2012 at 12:03 PM
Jeron Teng will be going to DLSU raw...
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Jan 25, 2012 at 05:01 PM
Jeron Teng will be going to DLSU raw...

Jeron Teng to DLSU was already confirmed.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: ivannn on Jan 25, 2012 at 05:09 PM
@steelcrazy

okay! thanks for the information.

for ateneo, any updates on their recruitment?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: onedown on Jan 26, 2012 at 07:29 AM
^
from what i heard, no big-name freshie. they'll be elevating some players from their "team b," including ex-la salle player nico elorde who was serving residency last year.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: ivannn on Jan 26, 2012 at 08:44 AM
^
from what i heard, no big-name freshie. they'll be elevating some players from their "team b," including ex-la salle player nico elorde who was serving residency last year.

taken from UAAP guidelines:

RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT
1.Transfer Students
1.From UAAP Member University
1.An undergraduate transferee who is an athlete (regular or training team) from a UAAP member University must establish two (2) years – meaning 730 calendar days of continuous residency in such Member University.
2.The resident years of an athlete will be counted as two (2) playing years if he/she transfers to another Member University.
3.Athletes who transfer from a UAAP Member University to another UAAP Member University shall only be required to establish one-year residency instead of two (2) years if such athletes are voluntarily released with a written clearance by the concerned UAAP Member University.

should he be released with a written clearnce by dlsu, eh pwede naga siguro siya ng 1 year residency lang...
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: onedown on Jan 26, 2012 at 10:01 AM
from what i gathered, la salle released elorde, making him eligible to play.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jan 30, 2012 at 04:25 AM
Former UAAP courtside reporter and UP varsity volleyball team captain Maan Panganiban has passed away (lymphoma).

She was 25. 

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9fbekTrdWn0/TyWGbkmz95I/AAAAAAAAHBs/riw8yzsazMk/s1600/maan%2Bpanganiban.jpg)

She was not the prettiest courtside reporter but she was definitely one of the best.  May her soul rest in peace.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 30, 2012 at 02:45 PM
^ wowww ang bata pa nya sir kent and dating atleta, bakit nag ka ganun, whta is lymphoma?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: onedown on Jan 30, 2012 at 04:53 PM
^
a form of cancer
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: bolong68 on Jan 31, 2012 at 07:31 AM
lymphoma is cancer of the lymph node :-)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: anya618 on Mar 05, 2012 at 06:24 AM
Xavier’s Teng picks La Salle (http://sports.inquirer.net/36765/xavier%E2%80%99s-teng-picks-la-salle)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Mar 05, 2012 at 12:58 PM
NCAA metes out a 2 year suspension for Frankie Lim and SSC Volleyball team coach Roger Gorayeb.. some SBC players also suspended one game and 2 players serving residency were given an additional year before they get to play for SBC.. not final yet though.. subject for appeal pa from SBC and SSC..

that's a pretty hard penalty from the NCAA.. I'm actually surprised..

http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/ncaa-comes-down-hard-on-lim-gorayeb-for-role-in-san-beda-san-sebastian-brawl
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: newwaveboy on Mar 05, 2012 at 03:23 PM
^ That's a bit harsh ..... even the NBA's "Malice at the Palace" brawl didn't result in such long penalties.

A 1-year suspension for the coaches should have been fine with me ..... I'm thinking that the appeal will lower the penalties to acceptable levels.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Mar 06, 2012 at 09:37 PM
so the NCAA accepted the MANCOM recommendations with revisions.. 2 year ban for Frankie Lim and Roger Gorayeb.. the 2 SBC players serving residency (Ola Adoegun/Julius Armon) are barred from entering any NCAA venue for next season.. the whole SBC team seems to have been suspended for their 1st game next season.. 11 players given 1-game suspensions tapos 3-game suspension for Dave Marcelo.. Marcelo has used up all his playing years with Beda already so I don't know how will serve that suspension..

It will be an interesting 1st game for the Red Lions next season.. Team B malamang ang maglalaro..

http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/ncaa-bans-lim-gorayeb-for-2-years-for-brawl-red-lions-players-official-suspended
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: frootloops on Mar 06, 2012 at 10:42 PM
Agree..that is too much. I hope San Beda takes a leave of absence from the entire season and thinks of leaving the effing league....and move to UAAP. I heard this was already being discussed in the past years.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Mar 06, 2012 at 11:27 PM
SBC still needs to get university certification before they enter the UAAP, I think.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: steelcrazy on Mar 08, 2012 at 12:19 AM
SBC still needs to get university certification before they enter the UAAP, I think.

That wont be hard for MVP to work it out.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: krets pulpol on Mar 26, 2012 at 11:42 AM
NCAA set to bar foreign players

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/03/26/12/ncaa-set-bar-foreign-players

Now this is a welcome development although it is still on the planning stages. I hope UAAP follows after.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Mar 26, 2012 at 12:19 PM
NCAA set to bar foreign players

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/03/26/12/ncaa-set-bar-foreign-players

Now this is a welcome development although it is still on the planning stages. I hope UAAP follows after.

it's been approved already.. when to implement na lang.. foreign players already serving residency can still play though..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Mar 26, 2012 at 12:53 PM
I don't know why the NCAA became xenophobic all of a sudden.  San Beda just proved that they can win without their import.

I believe we should still allow foreign players to play to increase the level of competition in the college ranks.  This would translate to us having a stronger youth base for our national team.

What they should ban are players over 23 years old and handlers/managers.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Mar 26, 2012 at 01:36 PM
I don't know why the NCAA became xenophobic all of a sudden.  San Beda just proved that they can win without their import.

I believe we should still allow foreign players to play to increase the level of competition in the college ranks.  This would translate to us having a stronger youth base for our national team.

What they should ban are players over 23 years old and handlers/managers.

+1000

I'm from the UAAP but what the other NCAA schools don't realize is that with this move the "budget" allocated for foreign players will now be free and can be allocated to acquiring the best local talent available thereby the other schools will be deprived of the chance to recruit these promising local players. The foreign players actually provide an overall benefit to the development of the league and the skills of the local talent.

What would these "patriotic" people do if filipino players were banned from joining US NCAA teams as the reasons would be that they are bumping off local US citizens from playing?

I think the writers of inboudpass has their thoughts on this issue as well and echoes these same sentiments as well.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: Verbl Kint on Mar 29, 2012 at 09:38 PM
Ronnie Magsanoc will coach the Red Lions!

http://www.philstar.com/sportshub/ncaaseason87/ncaaarticle.aspx?publicationsubcategoryid=200&articleid=792324
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: frootloops on Jun 20, 2012 at 08:35 PM
Go San Beda Fight!

http://sanbedasports.blogspot.hk/2012/06/san-beda-to-open-season-with-only-6.html
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: puffalan84 on Jun 20, 2012 at 09:47 PM
I saw the young Teng in Archers/Eagles unioil game, and mukhang may katapat na si Kiefer..  :)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: mattia on Jun 21, 2012 at 09:16 AM
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,165378.0.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,165378.0.html)

Don't know how to move to another thread so I created a new topic page for us ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2011
Post by: frootloops on Jun 21, 2012 at 10:45 AM
Sana edit mo na lang title mo sir to read 2012 since you are the TS naman... ;)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Jun 21, 2012 at 11:02 AM
Sana edit mo na lang title mo sir to read 2012 since you are the TS naman... ;)

subok subok
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Jun 21, 2012 at 11:04 AM
O ayan, 2012 na!! Game!!


Sa Arena MOA na nga ba ang UAAP? 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: beknat on Jun 22, 2012 at 07:28 AM
Let's GO Let's GO TAMARAWS!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jun 22, 2012 at 08:12 AM
O ayan, 2012 na!! Game!!


Sa Arena MOA na nga ba ang UAAP? 

Since NU will be the host the Arena will be used for the UAAP opening and around 60%(?) of the time for the basketball games. The rest will be split up between Araneta and Philsports or BEG (for the small crowd drawing games).
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Jun 22, 2012 at 09:05 AM
Since NU will be the host the Arena will be used for the UAAP opening and around 60%(?) of the time for the basketball games. The rest will be split up between Araneta and Philsports or BEG (for the small crowd drawing games).

Good.  This'll be interesting.  And I'm excited to see how NU will fare this season.

As for my Red Lions, they will be playing with only 6 players in the opener >:(
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jun 22, 2012 at 09:28 AM
Good.  This'll be interesting.  And I'm excited to see how NU will fare this season.

As for my Red Lions, they will be playing with only 6 players in the opener >:(

How are the bedans taking the news of the semerad twins going back to the den?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Jun 22, 2012 at 11:26 AM
Good.  This'll be interesting.  And I'm excited to see how NU will fare this season.

As for my Red Lions, they will be playing with only 6 players in the opener >:(

They just won the filoil against archers, Final four for NU.. 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Jun 22, 2012 at 03:34 PM
How are the bedans taking the news of the semerad twins going back to the den?

Semerad twins are are enrolled but not in the team yet.  I asked around earlier and they said MVP already talked to the monks to get them back in the team.  Most likely they will be back.  Coach Ronnie wants them in the lineup for sure.  Of course, we like them back since Armon is no longer with us.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jun 22, 2012 at 05:33 PM
NU na ba ang big dog ng UAAP? mukhang ang bigat kalaban eh Parks and Mbe both played well sa Fil Oil

ang UST wala na yata talagang pag asang gumaling :(
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Superman on Jun 22, 2012 at 05:43 PM
Malakas talaga Bulldogs, Brader Tirso! Iba kasi talaga pag properly funded...maganda na ang recruitment program ng NU ngayon...during my dad's time when he was King Bulldog, minsan abonado pa daw sila na sapatos and uniform hehe!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Jun 22, 2012 at 06:20 PM
The NBA is over so time to shift my attention to the UAAP.
SM owned NU Bulldogs making lots of noise that they are serious contenders this season.
I still doubt if they can beat ATENEO specially with the return of Ryan Buenafe.

My forecast for the final 4 : ATENEO, LA SALLE, UST and NU.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jun 22, 2012 at 06:35 PM
Malakas talaga Bulldogs, Brader Tirso! Iba kasi talaga pag properly funded...maganda na ang recruitment program ng NU ngayon...during my dad's time when he was King Bulldog, minsan abonado pa daw sila na sapatos and uniform hehe!

swerte talaga mga players ngayon kabayan tapos yung iba malalaki pa ang ulo tsk tsk tsk

mukhang mas exciting ang UAAP compared to NCAA? wala ng players and Beda eh o malakas pa din sila?

teka yung Abueva at Sangalang ba mag lalaro pa din sa baste? ang lakas nung dalawang yun.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jun 22, 2012 at 06:38 PM
The NBA is over so time to shift my attention to the UAAP.
SM owned NU Bulldogs making lots of noise that they are serious contenders this season.
I still doubt if they can beat ATENEO specially with the return of Ryan Buenafe.

My forecast for the final 4 : ATENEO, LA SALLE, UST and NU.

slaughter still playing? thats tough for NU but if NU at least gets to the final, ang laking accompishment, kelan ba last na nag finals NU nung time pa yata ni Ildefonso

malakas pa din UST? i have been disspointed with my alma maters team for quite sometime, walang player na malakas
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Jun 22, 2012 at 06:43 PM
slaughter still playing? thats tough for NU but if NU at least gets to the final, ang laking accompishment, kelan ba last na nag finals NU nung time pa yata ni Ildefonso

malakas pa din UST? i have been disspointed with my alma maters team for quite sometime, walang player na malakas

Slaughter still with Ateneo so First 5 will include Buenafe, Salva, Ravena plus their point guard.
Palaban naman lagi ang UST so makakasilat din yan.
I still doubt NU will bag the crown this year and deny Black a 5 peat.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Jun 22, 2012 at 06:58 PM
I'm putting Adamson over UST, as long as Nuyles is playing, they're still a top four team.. DLSU I think has the best backcourt in Revilla and Teng..

In NCAA, watch out for Mark Cruz.. Go Knights..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jun 22, 2012 at 07:01 PM
Slaughter still with Ateneo so First 5 will include Buenafe, Salva, Ravena plus their point guard.
Palaban naman lagi ang UST so makakasilat din yan.
I still doubt NU will bag the crown this year and deny Black a 5 peat.

not just yet perhaps but its always nice seeing a different school getting stronger, parang palagi na lang LSL and ADMU

what happened to Adamson? they used to contend?

by the way who is the best PG in UAAP now?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jun 22, 2012 at 07:02 PM
I'm putting Adamson over UST, as long as Nuyles is playing, they're still a top four team.. DLSU I think has the best backcourt in Revilla and Teng..

In NCAA, watch out for Mark Cruz.. Go Knights..

ah that Nuyles, ito ba yung parang si Lastimosa mag laro, every game almost single handedly carrying Adamson versus kalaban?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jun 22, 2012 at 07:06 PM
Slaughter still with Ateneo so First 5 will include Buenafe, Salva, Ravena plus their point guard.
Palaban naman lagi ang UST so makakasilat din yan.
I still doubt NU will bag the crown this year and deny Black a 5 peat.

NU will be very formidable in the coming years but as for this year, i doubt they'll reach the finals (but hey, it's the UAAP! full of surprises!). The team is built on Parks and Mbe if the bench can't step up when one of those two is taken out of the equation then they'd be very hard pressed to win the game. The bench has a couple of 3 point shooters. So if parks and mbe get covered by a double team they can kick it out and rotate the ball to a free player for a 3 ptr. or easy 2.

Ateneo will be quite thin at the PG position. The losses of Emman and Kirk will hurt the transition offense game of the Blue eagles! Emman Monfort provided the stability and playmaking for us and was number 1 in FT's and 2nd or 1st in assist in the league. He was good in defense as well. Very pesky and rock solid body to take charges and fishing for fouls. Also, Kirk Long is gone. He was the defense specialist who locked down the best player of the opposing team. Playing against NU, Parks would be limited (but still get to score at least 10) and bothered throughout the game to truly breakout. Both players were speed demons and defense oriented that helped fuel the fast break and transition game of ateneo.

Even with this. I believe! 5 peat would be the end goal to cap coach NB's collegiate coaching career.

P.S. Hopefully Ryan loses 15lbs more to be able to move faster but still have enough mass to bang bodies.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jun 22, 2012 at 07:14 PM
I'm putting Adamson over UST, as long as Nuyles is playing, they're still a top four team.. DLSU I think has the best backcourt in Revilla and Teng..

In NCAA, watch out for Mark Cruz.. Go Knights..

I'll put UST over Adamson.

Adamson lost = Canada, Alvarez, Colina and Lozada. They don't have a decent center. I admit Nuyles is really good and coach leo is one of the best bench tacticians (limited only by the quality of players he has) but I'll have UST since they'll only be losing only one notable player i think which is chris camus. their center Abdul is undersized but is quite strong.

Dlsu has a plethora of guards. They have a security agency down there. Watch out for Mark Tallo (who should have stayed in Ateneo! but was impatient and moved for the promised PT).
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jun 22, 2012 at 07:19 PM
NU na ba ang big dog ng UAAP? mukhang ang bigat kalaban eh Parks and Mbe both played well sa Fil Oil

ang UST wala na yata talagang pag asang gumaling :(

NU will be there to contend will not be the doormat team they used to be (UP na! haha!), with the massive funds poured in their program with a few notable players hidden in team b (1 or 2 africans and Alejandro) and more blue chip recruits in the future they'd be a force to reckon with! Prospective recruits will now look at NU as the offer is quite *good*. SM's got it all for you!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Jun 22, 2012 at 07:41 PM
NU na ba ang big dog ng UAAP? mukhang ang bigat kalaban eh Parks and Mbe both played well sa Fil Oil

ang UST wala na yata talagang pag asang gumaling :(

Parks will have his 2nd MVP this year, btw is he half Pinoy? baka pwede sa RP team..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Jun 22, 2012 at 07:47 PM
Let's not forget about FEU, dmi rin surprises yan and they do recruit good native players. They may even enter the Final via back door if UST, DLSU and NU get bad breaks during the course of the tournament.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jun 22, 2012 at 09:05 PM
Parks will have his 2nd MVP this year, btw is he half Pinoy? baka pwede sa RP team..

Parks plays for the Philippines and is listed in FIBA records as pinoy.  He speaks fluent Tagalog.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jun 23, 2012 at 05:00 AM
Let's not forget about FEU, dmi rin surprises yan and they do recruit good native players. They may even enter the Final via back door if UST, DLSU and NU get bad breaks during the course of the tournament.


http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/a-very-early-look-at-uaap-season-75-basketball

FEU Tamaraws

Losses:
Jens Knuttel (6.3 minutes – 0.2 points, 0.5 rebounds, 1 assist)
JR Cawaling (16.5 minutes – 7 points, 1.2 rebounds, 1.2 assists)
Pipo Noundou (1 minute – 2 points)
Aldrech Ramos (33.4 minutes – 11.7 points, 9.3 rebounds, 1.5 assists, 0.8 steals, 1.1 blocks)
Ping Exciminiano(20.8 minutes – 5.2 points, 3.5 rebounds, 1.2 assists, 1.2 steals)

A return to the finals earned FEU the same result, another thumping from the Blue Eagles. They’ll be hoping that third time will be a charm, but should that happen, expect a much different team when you look past RR Garcia, Terrence Romeo and Russel Escoto. A

combination of injuries and a general lack of personnel made it tough for the Tamaraws to battle Ateneo’s frontline, but they’ll be reinforced in Season 75 by as many as three big men.

First is Anthony Hargrove, a 6-foot-5 American transferee from the Technological Institute of the Philippines who, ironically, spent some time with Ateneo before making his way to Morayta.

Then there’s a more familiar name, Arvie Bringas, the one-time Green Archer and the brother of Mark. Now fully released from DLSU, he’ll probably be raring to play, hopefully down low instead of on the perimeter hoisting up triples.

Finally, Mark Bello, a 6-foot-5 provincial recruit, might be called to make the leap to team A. But if it’s more scoring on the perimeter that they want, they’ll get it in the form of 2010 NCAA juniors MVP Gino Jumao-as, and another prominent NCAA juniors name, Archie Ingio, a former Letran Squire. The question for FEU still remains, however: “Who will distribute the ball for all these guys?”
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We'll see how FEU can recover from the losses of three of their frontline as Hargrove does not have that high of a basketball IQ. Have not seen Mark Bello play. The key to FEU this coming season is how Romeo and Garcia mix together as Romeo is a ball hog and so is Garcia (but more effective).

FEU can still be in the final four and make UST and NU work for it as well. They have not fared that well in the pre-season tournaments losing to all the projected final four teams if i remember correctly.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Jun 23, 2012 at 06:31 AM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lUQw9YtyP3c/T-GMLhNZzwI/AAAAAAAAAjw/St3q1VaEb78/s400/NCAA%2BSeason%2B88%2BSchedule%2Bof%2BGames%2B1st%2Bround%2B2012%2Baktv%2B13.jpg)

NCAA Season 88 Begins Today

Schedule for today and tomorrow:

Saturday, June 23, 2012 - SMART-ARANETA COLISEUM4:00 PM Opening Ceremonies
5:00 PM SSCR vs CSJL (SRS)
7:00 PM JRU vs MIT (SRS)

Sunday, June 24, 2012 - ARENA, San Juan
(NO TV COVERAGE)
12:00 PM AU vs SBC (JRS)
2:00 PM AU vs SBC (SRS)
4:00 PM SSCR vs CSJL (JRS)
6:00 PM JRU vs MIT (JRS)


Full first round schedule :  http://www.ballerspinas.com/2012/06/ncaa-season-88-schedule-of-basketball.html (http://www.ballerspinas.com/2012/06/ncaa-season-88-schedule-of-basketball.html)

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Jun 23, 2012 at 07:30 AM

The question for FEU still remains, however: “Who will distribute the ball for all these guys?”
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The key to FEU this coming season is how Romeo and Garcia mix together as Romeo is a ball hog and so is Garcia (but more effective).

FEU can still be in the final four and make UST and NU work for it as well. They have not fared that well in the pre-season tournaments losing to all the projected final four teams if i remember correctly.

Isn't Garcia a former MVP? And during crucial stretches of their ball games, isn't he FEU's go-to-guy? Garcia is a better point guard than Romeo, who'd rather shoot than pass the ball. IMO the problem with FEU is consistency. They know how to play to their strength, but are not consistent enough. If Escoto beefs up without losing his agility and quickness, he'd be hard to stop as he can play inside and outside
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jun 23, 2012 at 08:14 AM
Isn't Garcia a former MVP? And during crucial stretches of their ball games, isn't he FEU's go-to-guy? Garcia is a better point guard than Romeo, who'd rather shoot than pass the ball. IMO the problem with FEU is consistency. They know how to play to their strength, but are not consistent enough. If Escoto beefs up without losing his agility and quickness, he'd be hard to stop as he can play inside and outside

Agree with your points. I think the the coach / management can't "control" Romeo and he just shoots when he can and does not pass to Garcia. They both actually play more SG than PG. They're probably grooming romeo to take over Garcia who'll graduate already after this season.

As for Escoto and the rest of the team is as you said needs consistency. Escoto is quick and agile.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Jun 23, 2012 at 09:24 PM
great game by kevin alas.., go knights..  :)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Jun 24, 2012 at 12:25 AM
I'm not excited over the NCAA, not lots of competitive and exciting teams to watch, too many games but San Beda will still prevail in the end probably against the Letran Knights in the finals.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Jun 24, 2012 at 07:43 PM
http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/super-six-enough-for-san-beda-against-arellano-in-ncaa-debut (http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/super-six-enough-for-san-beda-against-arellano-in-ncaa-debut)

Undermanned Red Lions beat Arellano, 81-71.

Pure heart of a champion, so they say.  But I guess it's really the conditioning of the players.  Not known to many, the US training of San Beda is pure conditioning.  Talagang puro pampalakas ng resistensya ang training sa USA and that has been one advantage of the Lions.  In last year's NCAA finals, San Sebastian almost beat San Beda in the final game but napagod yun Abueva, Pascual kaya hindi naka execute ng maganda.  San Beda's conditioning is second to none in the league and they will run down their opponents sa takbuhan at sa hustle.  I haven't seen the style of Coach Ronnie but I guess pareho din kay Coach Frankie.  Maybe better ;D

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: frootloops on Jun 24, 2012 at 07:56 PM
Anim-O!  8)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Jun 25, 2012 at 07:20 AM
I'm not excited over the NCAA, not lots of competitive and exciting teams to watch, too many games but San Beda will still prevail in the end probably against the Letran Knights in the finals.
 

>:( hehe.. I like my knight's chances this year..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: wedge on Jun 25, 2012 at 08:10 AM
Arriba Letran! ;) Been 13 years since I've last watched them play live--and it was a Finals game against JRU. It was an ugly match, I'd say, and I remember getting trapped inside Philsports Arena for two hours. ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Jun 25, 2012 at 09:59 PM
 

>:( hehe.. I like my knight's chances this year..

i'll be cheering for LETRAN!
Masyado na dominant ang San Beda so gusto ko dehado ang manalo and i think its about time the sacrifices of the Alas family to give honor to Letran be recognized.

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Jun 27, 2012 at 03:37 PM
http://www.inboundpass.com/2012/06/26/my-uaap-and-ncaa-5-on-5/ (http://www.inboundpass.com/2012/06/26/my-uaap-and-ncaa-5-on-5/)

Interesting dream match up. I'd say the NCAA 5 trumps UAAP 5 ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jun 30, 2012 at 03:31 AM
I would go with the UAAP team.  Ola can't stop Slaughter, and no one can stop Parks.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Superman on Jun 30, 2012 at 08:45 AM
If that's the "dream team" for both leagues, hands down UAAP will win...

PS: Glad that Norbert Torres finally improved his game...last year he was shooting bricks from the 3pt. area considering he is a power forward!!

ANIMO!!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jun 30, 2012 at 10:39 AM
I would go with the UAAP team.  Ola can't stop Slaughter, and no one can stop Parks.

+1
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Jun 30, 2012 at 02:20 PM
I would go with the UAAP team.  Ola can't stop Slaughter, and no one can stop Parks.

I agree, Parks is just too good..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Jun 30, 2012 at 06:39 PM
Perpetual Help just pulled an upset and beat Letran, 68-66. >:(
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Jul 01, 2012 at 10:14 AM
Perpetual Help just pulled an upset and beat Letran, 68-66. >:(

 >:(, Perpetual is on a rise, bad for the other teams.. I think they were a win away from final four last year..

Go Knights..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Jul 01, 2012 at 02:36 PM
Coach Aric Del Rosario of Perpetual is a damn good coach.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Jul 01, 2012 at 05:00 PM
Coach Aric Del Rosario of Perpetual is a damn good coach.

Maybe UST should take him in again!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jul 01, 2012 at 06:14 PM
http://www.inboundpass.com/2012/07/01/uaap-season-75-preview-nu-ust/

2 weeks to go!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Jul 07, 2012 at 10:46 PM
http://www.inboundpass.com/2012/07/07/arellano-ends-skid-gain-1st-win/ (http://www.inboundpass.com/2012/07/07/arellano-ends-skid-gain-1st-win/)

Arellano University, behind Fil Canadian James Forrester's 18 points and 11 rebounds, barged into the win column via a pulsating and bruising win over Letran.  A reserve, I think this boy will have more playing time in the days to come. 

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/251946_10150778328957614_1187205030_n.jpg)
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/391291_10150778305032614_1238088926_n.jpg)


Game was so heated that Letran supporters charged at the referees’ room during halftime.  Good thing security was able to prevent any untoward incident.
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/528825_10150778322067614_1928790883_n.jpg)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: frootloops on Jul 14, 2012 at 12:12 AM
Baser Beater!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBM7OIs2F6g

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Jul 14, 2012 at 07:49 AM
Baser Beater!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBM7OIs2F6g



Yup!  But UPH went on to beat an undermanned San Beda team.

UPH is coached by Aric Del Rosario, one of the best college coach in the Philippines.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Jul 14, 2012 at 08:32 AM
That steal should not have been allowed. It should have been a re-throw in. The defender was too close to the inbounder. When the UPH player touched the ball, it was still in the inbounder's hands. But I guess the play was too fast for the refs to catch, thus breaks of the game.

Games like this are difficult to watch. It drains you when your team loses but it energizes you when your team wins.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Jul 14, 2012 at 11:05 AM
That UPH-SBC game had one of the wildest finishes I've seen in a long while ..... great game from both teams.

Aric Del Rosario is no stranger to finishes like this though.

The last wild finish I recall watching, was the '94 UAAP Finals between UST-DLSU ..... Bal David's 2FT's in the dying seconds, then Lago & Telan's point-blank misses to win it for UST.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 14, 2012 at 03:37 PM
UAAP na!
Great game by NU against UE.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jul 14, 2012 at 04:30 PM
UAAP na!
Great game by NU against UE.

Great game for NU but an eyesore overall. they should have a mercy rule. If that's how UE will play they might find themselves at the bottom. UP will take 7th place.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jul 14, 2012 at 04:37 PM
and UE has put the game under protest daw.. kasi kulang ng patches yung uniform ng ibang players ng NU.. ang sama na nga ng laro nila, may protesta pa.. tsk, tsk..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 14, 2012 at 04:43 PM
Host ksi NU so niluto na mahina lng kalaban sa 1st game dpat sana they should play UST, FEU or ADU man lng and win if they wana look impressive in their first outing
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Jul 14, 2012 at 06:11 PM
sorry loss for ust. they had too many lapses in judgement in the endgame. feu was lucky to get the win.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jul 15, 2012 at 06:10 PM
Not so sure yet of the DLSU squad. Struggled against UP. Probably they'll pick up the pace as the season progress.

As for Admu, it will be a grinding week for them. 3 straight games this week. Adu today, UST on thursday and NU on sunday next week. Whereas NU gets 8 days off.

It was satisfying to see brodial and camson struggle in the second half when the Ateneo defense adjusted to them. I think they were limited to 4 points only in the 2nd half. Wiped the smirk off brondial whose scoring was primarily off the decoy play of nuyles and the timely assists he gets from nuyles and camson.

What both adamson and ateneo needs are the backcourt. Will have to see if juami and nico elorde picks their game up to fill in the big shoes left by the small yet stalwart Monfort who provided the court generalship and stability that ran the plays and fueled the fastbreaks of Ateneo.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 19, 2012 at 11:30 AM
ADMU still the team to beat. NU should be happy just to enter the final 4.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jul 19, 2012 at 12:10 PM
Ateneo has a tricky match against the tigers later. From a purely offensive standpoint, UST can match up, particularly if their threes start falling and Abdul can get position for rebpunds.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 19, 2012 at 02:18 PM
Ateneo has a tricky match against the tigers later. From a purely offensive standpoint, UST can match up, particularly if their threes start falling and Abdul can get position for rebpunds.

Ateneo is somehow predicatble. They dont really have an outside shooting gunner like Kirk Long, Jai reyes before that can open up the defense for their BIG men to dominate down low.
They are also a bit shallow at the point guard position. Perhaps he should consider making the adjustment of moving Ravena to the point guard position.

UST always never say die kya i never count them out sa final 4.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jul 19, 2012 at 04:17 PM
tinalo daw ng UST and Ateneo kanina by one point?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jul 19, 2012 at 05:19 PM
tinalo daw ng UST and Ateneo kanina by one point?

Yeah. 71-70. Down by as much as 19points. UST rallied 30-11 in the third quarter. Never say die till the end. Oh well. back to the drawing board for the blue and white. Never expected Ateneo to go 13-1 this season. more like 10-4 for them this season. A little shaky at the point.

Everybody in the third quarter was being complacent and ball movement stagnated with Juami who opted to jack up shots and was looking for more assists than move the ball around. turnovers killed ateneo and also Aljon Mariano, Teng, etc.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jul 19, 2012 at 05:31 PM
Yeah. 71-70. Down by as much as 19points. UST rallied 30-11 in the third quarter. Never say die till the end. Oh well. back to the drawing board for the blue and white. Never expected Ateneo to go 13-1 this season. more like 10-4 for them this season. A little shaky at the point.

Everybody in the third quarter was being complacent and ball movement stagnated with Juami who opted to jack up shots and was looking for more assists than move the ball around. turnovers killed ateneo and also Aljon Mariano, Teng, etc.

does it mean there is something to look forward to for UST? Im a Thomasian but has been frustrated many years already because of the kind of tem UST gets to build after the last championship.

is the younger Teng a big loss for UST? I was expecting he will play for the Tigers but ended up with LSL
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Jul 19, 2012 at 05:48 PM
does it mean there is something to look forward to for UST? Im a Thomasian but has been frustrated many years already because of the kind of tem UST gets to build after the last championship.

is the younger Teng a big loss for UST? I was expecting he will play for the Tigers but ended up with LSL

I still see shakiness from UST in the clutch ...... UST has had a long drought of tough-minded guards e.g. David, Singson, Ong, etc.

IMO if UST is to contend big this year, Teng has to lead them by being consistent .... it's now or never for him. 

=============================================================================

The minute that it was announced that Danding "Crocodile" Cojunagco will retake the godfather role for DLSU basketball ...... I immediately placed a bet with some friends that the younger Teng would eventually sign-up for DLSU.

The younger Teng looks to be a better player than kuya.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jul 19, 2012 at 05:52 PM
does it mean there is something to look forward to for UST? Im a Thomasian but has been frustrated many years already because of the kind of tem UST gets to build after the last championship.

is the younger Teng a big loss for UST? I was expecting he will play for the Tigers but ended up with LSL

Yes. UST has something to look forward to. They are final four contenders and if by chance they may find themselves in the finals if things go their way. They have very good wing men and a very mobile but a bit undersized center. Unfortunately, consistency and their shots falling in would determine how far they will go. Once you take out Karim, your next big man would be Pe who is not yet there but is improving. UST is dangerous, if things start clicking for them they can score in a bunch - demonstrated in this game. they dropped a 30-11 run against the blue and white.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: vinci on Jul 20, 2012 at 11:51 AM
The younger Teng looks to be a better player than kuya.

i was able to watch the replay of ADMU vs UST and DLSU vs UE.

mas pino ang kilos nitong batang Teng at parang buo kumpyansa.  tska parang di bara bara masyado gaya ng kuya nya nung rookie year nya.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Jul 20, 2012 at 12:14 PM
http://www.inboundpass.com/2012/07/19/ola-returns-with-a-bang-as-san-beda-routs-eac/ (http://www.inboundpass.com/2012/07/19/ola-returns-with-a-bang-as-san-beda-routs-eac/)

Ola Adeogun is back for the Lions ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jul 20, 2012 at 03:31 PM
The younger Teng looks to be a better player than kuya.


Prior to Teng going to UST, there was high hopes grabe ang lakas nya sa high school pero sa college di ko yata nararamdaman, one game he is good, another game he does not exist, di katulad nug dati, nag stand out talaga ang players ng UST, ngayon wlaang masasabing go to guy, tsamba tsamba lang panalo, pakiramdam ko natatalo yung kalaban nila hindi sila yung nanalo
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Jul 22, 2012 at 06:14 PM
Ateneo routs NU.
If Ateneo plays the whole season the way they played against NU, then the 5-peat may be a foregone conclusion.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jul 22, 2012 at 07:16 PM
The UST loss happened at the right time for the eagles.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jul 22, 2012 at 08:06 PM
Ateneo routs NU.
If Ateneo plays the whole season the way they played against NU, then the 5-peat may be a foregone conclusion.

Was watching the game courtside, just near the team bench and all i can say is, thank you UST. The coaching staff were active all throughout the game and the players were all listening to the different plays and defensive assignments from the ateneo braintrust. The lost killer instinct in the UST game, came roaring back in this game. On to Saturday. :D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Jul 23, 2012 at 06:24 AM
The first game yesterday was more exciting - FEU beats La Salle by just 2 points. ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Wiggum on Jul 23, 2012 at 07:01 AM
This is a classic example of not thinking before tweeting.  :) Sinagasaan NU, UE and ADMU - all in a couple of tweets:

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/07/22/12/uaap-account-under-fire-overrated-tweet (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/07/22/12/uaap-account-under-fire-overrated-tweet)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Aug 04, 2012 at 03:40 PM
Just watched the 2nd-half of a great match between UST & DLSU ...... UST winning via 2OT's.

Some quick thoughts:

1.) Where did this kid Mariano come from? ..... if this kid wasn't injured last year - good chance that UST would have entered the Finals ..... Mariano and Camus would have been fun to watch.

His offensive moves are way refined ..... kinda reminds me of a taller-version of Kiko Adriano from years ago.

2.) DLSU's Jeron Teng is clearly the better player than kuya ..... more versatile on the handle and shot-making.

Even this early, it's clear that he'll be having a great UAAP career .... he replicates what Joseph Yeo gave years ago.

3.) When he first arrived from the juniors, there was considerable buzz on DLSU's Joshua Webb ..... coming from a family with ties to hoops ..... turns out it was all hype, the guy is a dud.

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Aug 04, 2012 at 04:11 PM
Just watched the 2nd-half of a great match between UST & DLSU ...... UST winning via 2OT's.

Some quick thoughts:

1.) Where did this kid Mariano come from? ..... if this kid wasn't injured last year - good chance that UST would have entered the Finals ..... Mariano and Camus would have been fun to watch.

His offensive moves are way refined ..... kinda reminds me of a taller-version of Kiko Adriano from years ago.

2.) DLSU's Jeron Teng is clearly the better player than kuya ..... more versatile on the handle and shot-making.

Even this early, it's clear that he'll be having a great UAAP career .... he replicates what Joseph Yeo gave years ago.

3.) When he first arrived from the juniors, there was considerable buzz on DLSU's Joshua Webb ..... coming from a family with ties to hoops ..... turns out it was all hype, the guy is a dud.



1.) Mariano came from SBC i think. i might be wrong. but what i do know was that he tried out for ateneo and dlsu for college. wasn't picked up. went to the US to train. got back and was picked up by UST.

2.) agree but let's see how it turns out. He likes to take it strong to the basket while his brother likes to operate on the outside.

3.) He is the only player in DLSZ history to have his jersey retired. He is the LEGEND. =))
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: leomarley on Aug 04, 2012 at 04:35 PM
Go USTe! ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Aug 04, 2012 at 04:39 PM

3.) He is the only player in DLSZ history to have his jersey retired. He is the LEGEND. =))

WTF ....... is this true?  :D

Honestly, where would DLSU seniors hoops be without the vaunted NCAA Jrs. programs (SBC, MAPUA, SSC, etc) and of course that steady stream of Filams (via a US West-coast based sports agent) throughout the years.

Other than Maierhoffer, I can't recall any legit PBA talent that came from their HS's ..... nope, Dino Aldeguer doesn't count.

 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Aug 04, 2012 at 04:42 PM
1.) Mariano came from SBC i think. i might be wrong. but what i do know was that he tried out for ateneo and dlsu for college. wasn't picked up. went to the US to train. got back and was picked up by UST.

2.) agree but let's see how it turns out. He likes to take it strong to the basket while his brother likes to operate on the outside.

3.) He is the only player in DLSZ history to have his jersey retired. He is the LEGEND. =))
is maeihoffer from la sallezobel? i remmber webb and buenafe, mvp in juniors and both were expected to lead their respective teams.. Buenafe did more.. on his weight, webb not so much.. But may pag asa pa namn, especially webb kelangan lng ng break, playing time and dedication..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Aug 04, 2012 at 04:48 PM
WTF ....... is this true?  :D

Honestly, where would DLSU seniors hoops be without the vaunted NCAA Jrs. programs (SBC, MAPUA, SSC, etc) and of course that steady stream of Filams (via a US West-coast based sports agent) throughout the years.

Other than Maierhoffer, I can't recall any legit PBA talent that came from their HS's ..... nope, Dino Aldeguer doesn't count.

 

Larry Fonacier. from AHS.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: 5zig3n on Aug 04, 2012 at 04:59 PM
Other than Maierhoffer, I can't recall any legit PBA talent that came from their HS's ..... nope, Dino Aldeguer doesn't count.

Enrico Villanueva? also from AHS
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Aug 04, 2012 at 05:41 PM
WTF ....... is this true?  :D

Honestly, where would DLSU seniors hoops be without the vaunted NCAA Jrs. programs (SBC, MAPUA, SSC, etc) and of course that steady stream of Filams (via a US West-coast based sports agent) throughout the years.

Other than Maierhoffer, I can't recall any legit PBA talent that came from their HS's ..... nope, Dino Aldeguer doesn't count.

 

Larry Fonacier. from AHS.

Enrico Villanueva? also from AHS

I think newwaveboy was referring to La Salle's high school. :)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Aug 04, 2012 at 05:47 PM
I think newwaveboy was referring to La Salle's high school. :)

woops. haha! didn't see that.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: 5zig3n on Aug 04, 2012 at 05:59 PM
woops. haha! didn't see that.

same here. sorry  ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Superman on Aug 04, 2012 at 08:59 PM
WTF ....... is this true?  :D

Honestly, where would DLSU seniors hoops be without the vaunted NCAA Jrs. programs (SBC, MAPUA, SSC, etc) and of course that steady stream of Filams (via a US West-coast based sports agent) throughout the years.

Other than Maierhoffer, I can't recall any legit PBA talent that came from their HS's ..... nope, Dino Aldeguer doesn't count.

 

Maeirhoffer is not from Zobel, he is from Palawan
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Verbl Kint on Aug 04, 2012 at 11:00 PM
Maeirhoffer is not from Zobel, he is from Palawan

He is from Sabang, Puerto Galera.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Superman on Aug 05, 2012 at 01:47 AM
He is from Sabang, Puerto Galera.

Apologies, I meant Mindoro not Palawan
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Aug 05, 2012 at 06:49 AM
I know Maierhofer was from Puerto Galera ...... could have sworn, read somewhere that he played for LSGH or LSZ before joining the seniors.

UST's wins have been close ones ...... can't keep winning like that - ADMU & FEU will surely turn it up a notch after after the 1st round ..... NU & DLSU just needs to rack up some easy wins over the tail-enders and they'll hit their stride as well.




Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Aug 05, 2012 at 06:59 AM

UST's wins have been close ones ...... can't keep winning like that - ADMU & FEU will surely turn it up a notch after after the 1st round ..... NU & DLSU just needs to rack up some easy wins over the tail-enders and they'll hit their stride as well.


But the experience would surely benefit them come final four time. Winning close games against the favorites would also raise their confidence level up.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Aug 05, 2012 at 07:52 AM
But the experience would surely benefit them come final four time. Winning close games against the favorites would also raise their confidence level up.
i doubted ust's chances before, but knowing how to close games with a little swerte, they're a dangerous team come final four..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: 5zig3n on Aug 05, 2012 at 02:17 PM
I know Maierhofer was from Puerto Galera ...... could have sworn, read somewhere that he played for LSGH or LSZ before joining the seniors.


Rico Maierhofer played HS basketball in Puerto Galera


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A late bloomer, Maierhofer discovered his wares for basketball only in third year high school back in Puerto Galera Academy, though he has always had the height since he was young. He used to play volleyball before realizing that he could make good use of his height better in basketball.

source: goarchers.com (http://www.goarchers.com/660/rico-maierhofer-over-time/)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 05, 2012 at 10:26 PM
i doubted ust's chances before, but knowing how to close games with a little swerte, they're a dangerous team come final four..

You can never count UST out of the Final 4. Laban tlga yan and it reflects on Jarencio's style parang si Jawo and his galant hardcourt warriors.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Verbl Kint on Aug 06, 2012 at 02:54 AM
Make no mistake about it, judging from recent results, UST is not just a dark horse, they are definitely contenders for the Championship this year.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: sardaukar on Aug 08, 2012 at 01:10 PM
Tuloy ba yung UAAP games today or was it cancelled?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Aug 08, 2012 at 01:57 PM
Tuloy ba yung UAAP games today or was it cancelled?

Cancelled.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: sardaukar on Aug 08, 2012 at 02:19 PM
Thanks.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Onkyo606 on Aug 08, 2012 at 02:23 PM
if UST keeps winning close games, I couldn't be any happier

lagi na lang silang natatalo after building huge leads it doesnt matter kung swerte lang sila but them winning like this, pwedeng pwede
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Aug 08, 2012 at 02:32 PM
You can never count UST out of the Final 4. Laban tlga yan and it reflects on Jarencio's style parang si Jawo and his galant hardcourt warriors.
Make no mistake about it, judging from recent results, UST is not just a dark horse, they are definitely contenders for the Championship this year.
my bad, i just don't trust players like Teng.. Jrencio is doing great job, epecially on their center, big improvement, same with NU's bigman..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: vinci on Aug 18, 2012 at 09:09 PM
Double OT kanina yung la salle and NU. Galing ni teng at parks kumana ng 35 points yta parehas!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Aug 18, 2012 at 10:41 PM
Ateneo defeated FEU after playing catch-up the first three quarters and some minutes in the fourth.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: vinci on Aug 18, 2012 at 10:56 PM
Ateneo defeated FEU after playing catch-up the first three quarters and some minutes in the fourth.

Napanood ko rin. Sobrang frustrated feu. Great adjustments by coach norman.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: sardaukar on Aug 19, 2012 at 06:03 AM
May replays ba ang uaap? Other than on BTV which I don't have.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: vinci on Aug 19, 2012 at 06:31 AM
May replays ba ang uaap? Other than on BTV which I don't have.

Balls tv sir.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: sardaukar on Aug 19, 2012 at 08:20 AM
Wala rin, eh. Hehe. Sa Studio 23 ba? Last night they replayed UE vs Adamson (if I'm not mistaken). Kailan kaya yung yesterday's game?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Aug 19, 2012 at 09:56 AM
Napanood ko rin. Sobrang frustrated feu. Great adjustments by coach norman.

Really great adjustment by Black and the coaching staff both on offense and defense but specially on defense. FEU had an easy time penetrating during the first three quarters of the game but had to be content taking outside shots during the latter part of the fourth quarter. RR Garcia had a hard time receiving the ball and then could not find anyone to receive his passes.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Aug 19, 2012 at 11:10 AM
Really great adjustment by Black and the coaching staff both on offense and defense but specially on defense. FEU had an easy time penetrating during the first three quarters of the game but had to be content taking outside shots during the latter part of the fourth quarter. RR Garcia had a hard time receiving the ball and then could not find anyone to receive his passes.

After the half, the team was able to adjust defensively even if the offense was sputtering. Good thing Ryan Buenafe (i dub thee, tamaraw killer) was able to facilitate the plays and made the most damage in the crucial run and finally helping in overtaking FEU's lead. This combo will be the one I'll watch out for:

Slaughter – 17 points (including 2 dunks!), 8 rebounds, 3 assists, and 5 monster blocks!
Erram – 6 points, 9 rebounds, 1 steal and 2 blocks

Ryan will get better as the season goes along and hopefully he loses 5-10lbs and his conditioning gets better. If he does, man... the other teams won't know what hit them.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: vinci on Aug 19, 2012 at 11:27 AM
Wala rin, eh. Hehe. Sa Studio 23 ba? Last night they replayed UE vs Adamson (if I'm not mistaken). Kailan kaya yung yesterday's game?

parang may game of the week lang sila feature na replay pag weekends yata. pro yung games the same day ang replay wala yata.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Aug 19, 2012 at 11:36 AM
parang may game of the week lang sila feature na replay pag weekends yata. pro yung games the same day ang replay wala yata.

meron, actually, same day replay sa Balls.. 8pm-12mn..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: vinci on Aug 19, 2012 at 11:50 AM
meron, actually, same day replay sa Balls.. 8pm-12mn..

yep. dun meron pro sa studio 23 wala.  btw ano games maya?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Aug 19, 2012 at 01:30 PM
May replays ba ang uaap? Other than on BTV which I don't have.

You can watch previous games here: http://uaapsports.studio23.tv/

Full games, game highlights are there.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: vinci on Aug 19, 2012 at 02:28 PM
tight game between ust and adu! 7 straight points by ust lamag sila ng isa with less than a minute to play.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Aug 19, 2012 at 02:36 PM
tight game between ust and adu! 7 straight points by ust lamag sila ng isa with less than a minute to play.

ust wins another close come-from-behind game!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: vinci on Aug 19, 2012 at 02:40 PM
ust wins another close come-from-behind game!

dati kasi natatambakan nila kalaban tpos laging nahahabol at natatalo.  ngayun binaligtad nila hehehe.

at number 1 seed yata sila by end of the first round. 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Aug 19, 2012 at 03:00 PM
dati kasi natatambakan nila kalaban tpos laging nahahabol at natatalo.  ngayun binaligtad nila hehehe.

at number 1 seed yata sila by end of the first round. 

tied sila ng Ateneo with a 6-1 win-loss record but since they defeated Ateneo they get to be number 1.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Aug 21, 2012 at 02:37 PM
just read that Topex Robinson has resigned as coach of San Sebastian.. pretty surprising.. they've been pretty good this season.. overconfident lang against sub-par teams..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Aug 21, 2012 at 03:04 PM
just read that Topex Robinson has resigned as coach of San Sebastian.. pretty surprising.. they've been pretty good this season.. overconfident lang against sub-par teams..
baka babalik na si ato agustin
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Aug 26, 2012 at 05:26 PM
Effin great night of hoops ...... my remote control was jumping between the UST-NU and SMART GILAS-USA game.

Both epic come-from-behind wins ...... both down the wire.

Like I said, UST can't keep playing this way ..... can't just lay-down in the 1st half, then scramble in the 2nd half. The games will only get tougher for those with Final 4 hopes.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Aug 27, 2012 at 07:44 AM
Effin great night of hoops ...... my remote control was jumping between the UST-NU and SMART GILAS-USA game.

Both epic come-from-behind wins ...... both down the wire.

Like I said, UST can't keep playing this way ..... can't just lay-down in the 1st half, then scramble in the 2nd half. The games will only get tougher for those with Final 4 hopes.
 
congrats to smart gilas, great game, full heart.. galing ni tenorio.. sa uaap, if you're not a ust fan, you hate 2 players, mariano for being so good and ferrer for playing great d..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Aug 27, 2012 at 08:01 AM
congrats to smart gilas, great game, full heart.. galing ni tenorio.. sa uaap, if you're not a ust fan, you hate 2 players, mariano for being so good and ferrer for playing great d..

The referees allowed Ferrer to get away with a lot of things. But that's part of the the game. Parks wasn't able to adjust his game. Altamirano should have been more vehement in complaining to the referees. The only instance he was on the referees was when one of his players got bloodied by an elbow from Abdul.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Aug 27, 2012 at 08:33 AM
One thing about UST's Mariano ...... the kid has exceptional footwork - his pivots, drop-steps, body & ball fakes are some of the most mature in all of local college hoops.

Like I said, if Mariano wasn't injured last season ...... UST might've entered the Finals or at the very least, give a genuine scare to ADMU.

A Camus & Mariano tandem would have been fun to watch ..... sayang. 


 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Aug 27, 2012 at 09:51 AM
The referees allowed Ferrer to get away with a lot of things. But that's part of the the game. Parks wasn't able to adjust his game. Altamirano should have been more vehement in complaining to the referees. The only instance he was on the referees was when one of his players got bloodied by an elbow from Abdul.

Bulok ung mga refs. Ferrer was getting away with a lot of things. One of the dirtiest players i've seen. Taunting which was strictly enforced in the past season was forgotten. A lot of elbows by ferrer on BRP wasn't seen. Fortuna taunting BRP during a crucial free throw was not even called.

During the Ateneo UP game, no unsportsmanlike foul was called on padilla. It was clearly shown he wasn't going for the ball. Coach Dandan was stepping onto the court a lot of times and in one instance he was near the shaded lane already.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Aug 27, 2012 at 10:40 AM
Bulok ung mga refs. Ferrer was getting away with a lot of things. One of the dirtiest players i've seen. Taunting which was strictly enforced in the past season was forgotten. A lot of elbows by ferrer on BRP wasn't seen. Fortuna taunting BRP during a crucial free throw was not even called.

During the Ateneo UP game, no unsportsmanlike foul was called on padilla. It was clearly shown he wasn't going for the ball. Coach Dandan was stepping onto the court a lot of times and in one instance he was near the shaded lane already.

bulok talaga. haha
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Aug 27, 2012 at 10:30 PM
Here's a snapshot or ray parks telling jeric Fortuna and jeric teng it was all good except for ferrer. pic.twitter.com/CxKkyIJw
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Aug 28, 2012 at 04:41 AM
The refs are clearly allowing more contact this season ...... dunno who or if there's even a commissioner nowadays.

Ferrer did what he had to do - limit the most talented player in the UAAP right now ..... Pido Jarencio did come from Jaworski's school of make-your-fouls-count.

Ferrer played Parks physical almost the whole game ...... If anything, Parks (and Altamirano) should've tried selling the fouls, early.

It was only during desperation hour that Parks did enough to sell the fouls ..... and Ferrer was actually called for fouls late in the game.

================================================================================

Fortuna's taunts were okay for me ...... common to see those even in the pro hoops - psyching-out the FT shooter during tight moments.

However, vehement & in-your-face finger-pointing, wagging, shouting, etc should be no-nos.

================================================================================

..... Coach Dandan was stepping onto the court a lot of times and in one instance he was near the shaded lane already.

Now, this to me is one of the most annoying and definitely UNDERLOOKED offense in all of local hoops (amateur and pro) ....... coaches actively being inside the court - even during a live ball.

In the PBA, almost every coach is guilty of this annoying offense ...... Jong Uichico and Siot Tanquincen are easily the top-offenders here - since they call out almost every play from the sidelines, with both feet clearly inside the court.

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Wiggum on Aug 29, 2012 at 04:41 PM
Bringas was thrown out from today's ADMU-FEU game for doing this:

(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/Octo1/Bringas.jpg)

Medyo madami 'yun ah.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Oloap on Aug 29, 2012 at 04:55 PM
Bringas was thrown out from today's ADMU-FEU game for doing this:

(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/Octo1/Bringas.jpg)

Medyo madami 'yun ah.

Nakakahiya. Parang walang pinag-aralan.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Aug 29, 2012 at 05:13 PM
I'd like to quote the following tweets:

@Carlo_Pamintuan: Ateneo beats the FEU Thugaraws 77-64.

@GWILLSlaughter: Heart and Skill > dirty and cheap.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Superman on Sep 01, 2012 at 09:24 AM
It's GREEN vs. BLUE again today!  ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 01, 2012 at 09:31 AM
Bringas was thrown out from today's ADMU-FEU game for doing this:

(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/Octo1/Bringas.jpg)


Wow ..... that's old-school right there.

Many old timers like Big Boy Reynoso, Onchie Dela Cruz, etc would have been proud of Bringas.  ;D

Seriously, the Bringas brothers are known bruisers/hot-heads on the court ..... I kinda expect altercations whenever FEU plays ADMU - just not the spitting kind.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Sep 01, 2012 at 10:18 AM
Wow ..... that's old-school right there.

Many old timers like Big Boy Reynoso, Onchie Dela Cruz, etc would have been proud of Bringas.  ;D

Seriously, the Bringas brothers are known bruisers/hot-heads on the court ..... I kinda expect altercations whenever FEU plays ADMU - just not the spitting kind.


Slaughter decided to push back during a deadball situation by bumping  Bringas, who wasnt expecting it. Bringas went down but couldnt wait for play to resume to get even. Perhaps he should learn a little finesse in playing dirty. Carlos Briggs, a former Ginebra import, when asked who he thought was a dirty player, cited Ramon Fernandez. Briggs said Fernandez was never caught by the refs since he was not obvious in hitting others. Jaworski, on the other hand, was the opposite.  ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 01, 2012 at 10:38 AM
Slaughter decided to push back during a deadball situation by bumping  Bringas, who wasnt expecting it. Bringas went down but couldnt wait for play to resume to get even. Perhaps he should learn a little finesse in playing dirty. Carlos Briggs, a former Ginebra import, when asked who he thought was a dirty player, cited Ramon Fernandez. Briggs said Fernandez was never caught by the refs since he was not obvious in hitting others. Jaworski, on the other hand, was the opposite.  ;D

Yup, Fernandez was "all-elbows" when he does those elegant shots of his ...... finesse-type players rarely get caught when they throw the elbows & the occasional hips.

Vic Sanchez & Onchie Dela Cruz are tops IMO, when it comes to being a hot-head and overall rough play.

Jaworski plays with a lot of emotion ..... everyone knows what they'll get when they watch the Big J and his boys play - great action & fouls-that-truly-count.   ;D

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Sep 02, 2012 at 05:40 PM
two buzzer-beater games.
UE beats UP on a last second triple.
FEU beats NU on a last .3 of a second lay-up by Garcia.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: vinci on Sep 02, 2012 at 05:44 PM
two buzzer-beater games.
UE beats UP on a last second triple.
FEU beats NU on a last .3 of a second lay-up by Garcia.

great games nga. saktong sakto ung bitaw ni garcia.  :)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 02, 2012 at 06:57 PM
Great games indeed ..... can't recall a past season with this many buzzer-beaters & come-from-behind-wins.

That RR Garcia lay-up was about as close as a buzzer-beater can get ...... life is good, says Vice Ganda.  ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: vinci on Sep 03, 2012 at 12:15 AM
E mga laro pa lang ng uste halos come from behind e hahah. College basketball lagi entertaining. Kahit halftime show patok e
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: beknat on Sep 03, 2012 at 10:26 AM
hindi daw dapat counted yung lay-up ni RR Garcia, nag-file ng protest ang N.U
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 03, 2012 at 11:46 AM
hindi daw dapat counted yung lay-up ni RR Garcia, nag-file ng protest ang N.U

Yup, heard about NU's protest ...... understandable, since Garcia's shot was extremely close - probably the closest buzzer-beater in a long while.

However, unless the UAAP gets a higher-def / better replay ...... I dont think they'll overturn the result.

 

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: beknat on Sep 03, 2012 at 01:12 PM
kelan kaya may replay nito?hindi ko kasi napanuod e..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 04, 2012 at 06:56 AM
One thing about UST's Mariano ...... the kid has exceptional footwork - his pivots, drop-steps, body & ball fakes are some of the most mature in all of local college hoops.

Like I said, if Mariano wasn't injured last season ...... UST might've entered the Finals or at the very least, give a genuine scare to ADMU.

A Camus & Mariano tandem would have been fun to watch ..... sayang. 


 

Mariano reminds me of Dondon Ampalayo.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: sardaukar on Sep 04, 2012 at 05:20 PM
kelan kaya may replay nito?hindi ko kasi napanuod e..

Malamang it's going to be the game of the week. Check out Studio 23 on Saturday 9pm.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: beknat on Sep 05, 2012 at 07:01 AM
thanks sir sardaukar.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: ivannn on Sep 05, 2012 at 03:09 PM
Yup, heard about NU's protest ...... understandable, since Garcia's shot was extremely close - probably the closest buzzer-beater in a long while.

However, unless the UAAP gets a higher-def / better replay ...... I dont think they'll overturn the result.

 



today daw ang deliberation ng protest by NU. meron na ba sa inyo may updates?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 05, 2012 at 03:15 PM
today daw ang deliberation ng protest by NU. meron na ba sa inyo may updates?

denied.. the win was upheld..

http://sports.inquirer.net/60832/uaap-commissioner-denies-nus-protest-against-feu-win
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: blackie on Sep 05, 2012 at 04:44 PM
Saw the replay of this and it was really, really tight.  To have received the ball the entire length of the court, dribbled once and took two steps from where he took off....and to have released the ball,  was quite a stretch, and this all happened within two seconds.  Now if only this could be zoomed..... you guys be the judge ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI130jrDC6Y
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 06, 2012 at 02:24 PM
UE just upset Ateneo, 79-77.. Javier once again with the game winner just like vs UP..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 06, 2012 at 02:44 PM
UE just upset Ateneo, 79-77.. Javier once again with the game winner just like vs UP..

Just wow ...... the amount of close games, buzzer-beaters & epic comebacks this season has been outstanding.

OT: The recent UE games shows what a coaching failure Jerry Codinera was.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Sep 06, 2012 at 03:32 PM
Saw the replay of this and it was really, really tight.  To have received the ball the entire length of the court, dribbled once and took two steps from where he took off....and to have released the ball,  was quite a stretch, and this all happened within two seconds.  Now if only this could be zoomed..... you guys be the judge ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI130jrDC6Y

(http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss208/wetcute/shot.jpg)
From this angle parang nasa kamay pa nya...
Pero very very close. Kailangan Hidef material para malinaw pa din kahit zoom ;D

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 07, 2012 at 12:43 PM
denied.. the win was upheld..

http://sports.inquirer.net/60832/uaap-commissioner-denies-nus-protest-against-feu-win

so NU elevated the case to the UAAP Board and the Board has overturned the commissioner's decision and has ordered a replay of the game on Set. 23.. according to Inquirer..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Wiggum on Sep 07, 2012 at 03:21 PM
so NU elevated the case to the UAAP Board and the Board has overturned the commissioner's decision and has ordered a replay of the game on Set. 23.. according to Inquirer..

Interesting. From the replay and the pic above, I think the ball was already out of RR Garcia's hand/fingers when the clock hit 0.0. Pwede pa ba i-appeal 'yan sa Supreme Court?  :) But at least, there'll be more UAAP action in the coming weeks.

Also watched the last few plays of yesterday's UE-ADMU game. You could somehow sense from the way the game was developing that lightning was going to strike twice c/o UE...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4KyeeTT4jA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4KyeeTT4jA)


Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 07, 2012 at 04:46 PM
So, NU's final appeal was upheld ...... a re-play of the game to be held on Sep. 23.


** Methinks the fact that NU is the host school had a bit part in winning the appeal .... like I said, it was extremely close (closest one I've seen in a long while) ..... any final UAAP ruling would be acceptable.

Best thing to come out of this ..... it makes the race for the last Final Four slots more exciting.

** ADMU looks like a lock for that #1 slot .... while UST has the "easiest" remaining sked among the 5 contenders - if they beat the eliminated teams, UST should finish no worse than 10-4.

** Here's the fun part ...... FEU, DLSU & NU are all contenders for Final Four slots (most likely the #3 & #4 slots) ...... they all face each other to close out their eliminations sked !  ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 10, 2012 at 04:51 AM
NU now ahead of DLSU.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Wiggum on Sep 13, 2012 at 06:22 PM
What are the tiebreaker rules in the UAAP? Quotient system pa rin ba? Looks like NU, FEU and DLSU need to keep these rules in mind in the remaining playing days. They all could end up with similar 9-5 records at the end of the eliminations, right?

Although I have a feeling it's NU and DLSU which might end up tied. If they do, DLSU is eliminated because NU has the superior quotient - DLSU beat NU by only 1 point in the first round, while NU beat DLSU by 10 in the second round. Is this correct?

EDIT: Actually, even UST can go down to 9-5. Interesting games ahead.  :)

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 13, 2012 at 06:48 PM
^for ties in the 2nd and 4th spots involving 2 teams, may playoff.. for 1st and 3rd, head-to-head match up yung basehan.. point difference yung quotient system sa UAAP..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Sep 15, 2012 at 11:40 AM
^for ties in the 2nd and 4th spots involving 2 teams, may playoff.. for 1st and 3rd, head-to-head match up yung basehan.. point difference yung quotient system sa UAAP..

(http://tinyurl.com/9c8htjr)

nahihirapan akong basahin at intindihin ito. masyado kasing malinaw ang background ;)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: vinci on Sep 15, 2012 at 06:17 PM
lintek na laro between uste and admu!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: paolorenzo on Sep 15, 2012 at 06:28 PM
Nice game!

Karim Abdul's goal tending did the Tigers in.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Sep 15, 2012 at 06:43 PM
The camera didn't show the play Pido was drawing up but it was obvious it wasn't followed.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 15, 2012 at 07:45 PM
The camera didn't show the play Pido was drawing up but it was obvious it wasn't followed.

The ball will end up with Mariano ..... as with most of UST's games this season has shown.

However, everyone (including Pido) would have preferred if Mariano took it inside ..... the kid played subpar for most of the game, must have felt little confidence with his inside shot.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 16, 2012 at 02:23 AM
And step-back threes are generally not his specialty.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Sep 16, 2012 at 04:38 AM
And step-back threes are generally not his specialty.

If they were aiming to win it with a three instead of just tying the game and going for overtime then it would have been better if Teng or Fortuna took the shot.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Sep 16, 2012 at 07:59 PM
FEU just lost to La Salle.

Should the Archers win over the Falcons and the Bulldogs win over the Tamaraws in their last games then it would be a triple tie for the 3rd and 4th places between FEU, La Salle and NU.  It could even be a quadruple tie if UST loses its last game.

These last games are must win games for the four teams if they want to get into the final four!

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Sep 18, 2012 at 03:46 AM
UST protest against Ateneo turned down!

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/09/17/12/ust-protest-against-ateneo-turned-down (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/09/17/12/ust-protest-against-ateneo-turned-down)

UST plans to appeal 'junked' protest vs Ateneo to UAAP board

http://www.philstar.com/sportsarticle.aspx?publicationsubcategoryid=200&articleid=849926&keyword=sp_pba (http://www.philstar.com/sportsarticle.aspx?publicationsubcategoryid=200&articleid=849926&keyword=sp_pba)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Sep 18, 2012 at 10:16 AM
Looks like UP is in the brink of yet another 1 win season.  Funny but I became an avid fan of UP everytime they play nowadays.  You know, cheering for the underdog ^-^  I really wanted them to win more games.
Oh well ...
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: onedown on Sep 18, 2012 at 10:49 AM
^
up's season is over, at least in uaap men's basketball. their official record is 1-13.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Sep 18, 2012 at 02:37 PM
http://www.inboundpass.com/2012/09/17/banal-nimes-saves-mapua-but-perpetual-help-puts-game-under-protest/ (http://www.inboundpass.com/2012/09/17/banal-nimes-saves-mapua-but-perpetual-help-puts-game-under-protest/)

Now, it's Perpetual's turn to file a protest.  Parang usong uso ang protest lately ah ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: ivannn on Sep 19, 2012 at 01:01 PM
disrespect for the game officials ang nangyayari eh...

shempre we can't always go to the "let the players play" sa endgame to decide the final score, kasi ang nangyayari eh sobrang physical ang action na di rin naman maganda panoorin.

tamang respect lang for all ang need para pag endgame eh bigay todo both teams na malinis ang laban.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 19, 2012 at 01:23 PM
Comes with the territory, I guess ..... like I said, this is perhaps the best UAAP season yet - in terms of close games & epic comebacks, etc.

To some degree, the NCAA games have also been close and has its share of unbelievable finishes as well ex. epic OT game between PERPETUAL-SAN BEDA.

However in terms of physicality of play, cheapshots, etc ...... I've seen much worse in the UAAP, particularly during the middle part of last decade.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 19, 2012 at 04:05 PM
I'm not sure if I agree with you newwaveboy because I can see a lot of sideshows which make the season more "colorful" but not necessarily the best. Some decisions could have affected the outcomes like goal tendings, foul calls or the lack of and of course technical. Is it just passion for the collegiate sport, school spirit or just business now? I think it's the latter. I thought protest is a thing of the past, nung 80s-90s lang yun sa mga local leagues ah. Yung mga overage at dukot sa kabilang baranggay haha

Ang dumi yata maglaro ng FEU o ngayon lang napapansin/nahuhuli. Tapos parang madalas na ang goal tending, dami na kasing african IMPORTS! Di na nakakatuwang panoorin.

Here's the latest.

Salva's father appeals UAAP ban

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/09/19/12/salvas-father-appeals-uaap-ban

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 19, 2012 at 04:41 PM
^ It's a bit subjective of course ..... but I've been closely watching the UAAP since the late 80's - have to say, that this season has been outstanding .... like I said, in terms of close games & epic comebacks.

The eligibility issues/protests had been addressed years back ..... after, DLSU's suspension due to using ineligible players ..... since then, there has been an agreement between all schools to raise no more eligibility questions once the pre-season player screening is through.

Winning close games due to blatant calls or non-calls is one thing ...... but for this season so far, it's been close due to some razor-thin scenarios (e.g. FEU-NU game) and some unexpected comebacks and/or upsets from many teams.

I'm for UST, but even I admit that there should be no question about Karim's goal-tending last game ..... it was clear on the replays, that the ball was on it's downward path.

I agree that the collegiate leagues are better off without the player-imports ..... you can find my arguments against these imports, on the older UAAP/NCAA thread.

I've always said that what SBC has done years ago, will set a bad precedent - look at the landscape of bigs right now in the UAAP/NCAA.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 19, 2012 at 05:05 PM
Oh okay, I think we'll agree at some points like the comebacks and come from behind wins. The only thing that makes it more exciting is the teams behind Ateneo or the contenders. Sila ang magkaka match. It also shows Ateneo is vulnerable but I think they will get the crown again this season.

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: leomarley on Sep 19, 2012 at 09:59 PM
ang gulo pala daming possible outcomes. pero sana manalo UST bukas para sure na ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 20, 2012 at 05:19 PM
UST secures at least a playoff for the 2nd twice-to-beat advantage.. a win by La Salle later assures them of at least a playoff for the 4th spot.. mukhang magiging mainit yung FEU-NU replay sa Sunday.. a lot at stake for both teams..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: leomarley on Sep 20, 2012 at 05:49 PM
UST secures at least a playoff for the 2nd twice-to-beat advantage.. a win by La Salle later assures them of at least a playoff for the 4th spot.. mukhang magiging mainit yung FEU-NU replay sa Sunday.. a lot at stake for both teams..

sana manalo NU para assured na UST for the 2nd spot and twice-to-beat advantage ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 21, 2012 at 06:43 PM
this is interesting.. MVP cuts ties with Ateneo (http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/mvp-cuts-ties-with-ateneo-leaves-questions-for-sports-program)..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 21, 2012 at 07:28 PM
this is interesting.. MVP cuts ties with Ateneo (http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/mvp-cuts-ties-with-ateneo-leaves-questions-for-sports-program)..

More than the loss of Norman Black ...... MVP leaving sponsorship duties, might be catastrophic for ATENEO. 

It's no coincidence that anytime a known "patron" pours his "resources" into a sports program ...... it almost always leads to great results.


The past few years have seen both ATENEO & SBC rule collegiate hoops ...... as was the case years ago, when Danding and Razon took turns with DLSU ....... as is the case now for NU - a perennial whipping boy in all collegiate sports; yet had a sudden rise as soon as Sy stepped in. 

ATENEO better mend fences with MVP soon ...... else, they'll again end up in the UAAP hoops bottom-half, a few years down the road.

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Sep 22, 2012 at 06:27 PM
UP wins cheerdance competition, their 3rd straight and 8th over-all.
FEU places 2nd but was obviously disappointed. I guess they believe that they should have won since UP flubbed their last stunt. But UP was fluid and strong all through out.
NU places 3rd. Luto daw since NU is this year's UAAP host. But, most of the judges were foreign and I doubt they voted for NU just because NU is the host.

As long as foreign judges are used, UP definitely would have the edge since they have always been the more fluid, strong and innovative PEP squad.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 23, 2012 at 06:19 PM
what a game! NU won, 84-81.. Parks was clutch! UST gets the 2nd twice to beat.. they meet NU sa final 4.. DLSU-FEU on Wednesday for last spot.. possible Ateneo-La Salle sa final 4..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Sep 23, 2012 at 06:46 PM
what a game! NU won, 84-81.. Parks was clutch! UST gets the 2nd twice to beat.. they meet NU sa final 4.. DLSU-FEU on Wednesday for last spot.. possible Ateneo-La Salle sa final 4..

if FEU had won then it would have been certain since NU would have dropped to 5th. pero pwede pa rin if La Salle beats FEU :)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 23, 2012 at 07:23 PM
Like I said, this UAAP season has been a standout, in terms of close games, wild finishes & great comebacks.

Parks was (finally) clutch ..... though, I would have given the best player of the game to Mbe.

That was probably the best game I've seen Mbe play ..... the guy clearly didn't want his last UAAP game to be another heart-breaker.

========================================================================

The Final Four series will be a blast ..... UST-NU games this season, have been epic.

An ADMU-DLSU matchup will always be fun ..... if it's ADMU-FEU, I have a feeling that the match-up will be more competitive this time (bring in the Bringas brothers, Magtulis & the Salvas).  >:D


Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Sep 23, 2012 at 08:43 PM
Like I said, this UAAP season has been a standout, in terms of close games, wild finishes & great comebacks.

Parks was (finally) clutch ..... though, I would have given the best player of the game to Mbe.

That was probably the best game I've seen Mbe play ..... the guy clearly didn't want his last UAAP game to be another heart-breaker.

========================================================================

The Final Four series will be a blast ..... UST-NU games this season, have been epic.

An ADMU-DLSU matchup will always be fun ..... if it's ADMU-FEU, I have a feeling that the match-up will be more competitive this time (bring in the Bringas brothers, Magtulis & the Salvas).  >:D
I agree, I like the guard from FEU I forgot his name, cogoy Yata.. not as talented as Kiefer but he is dangerous in open court, I like him more than Romeo..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: leomarley on Sep 23, 2012 at 09:18 PM
woot! 2nd place and twice to beat ang UST! Tigers wag nyo sayangin yan! Go USTe! ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Sep 23, 2012 at 10:36 PM
I agree, I like the guard from FEU I forgot his name, cogoy Yata.. not as talented as Kiefer but he is dangerous in open court, I like him more than Romeo..

FEU's guards are Garcia, Romeo and Tolomia. All are very dangerous in open court. Perhaps you are referring to Pogoy, sounds like Cogoy ;D, who also knows how to work his way to the basket.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Sep 23, 2012 at 10:54 PM
FEU's guards are Garcia, Romeo and Tolomia. All are very dangerous in open court. Perhaps you are referring to Pogoy, sounds like Cogoy ;D, who also knows how to work his way to the basket.

yeah Pogoy nga, tnx, I think he's a combo guard..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 24, 2012 at 08:19 AM
This is the best chance that UST has to re-enter the Finals & possibly take the championship .... they have a narrow championship window, with many key players on their last year of eligibility.

They've handled NU before, albeit via very close games.

Should ADMU enter the Finals against UST ..... it just might match the intensity of their 2006 Finals match-up ..... IMO that was one of the best UAAP Finals series ever.

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 24, 2012 at 08:39 AM
Many pundits actually thought UST would be 4th and it would be NU on 2nd place (moral of the story: never judge the season using the pre-season).  Pido should be venerated now, regardless if UST does not make the finals.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: leomarley on Sep 24, 2012 at 10:26 AM
This is the best chance that UST has to re-enter the Finals & possibly take the championship .... they have a narrow championship window, with many key players on their last year of eligibility.

They've handled NU before, albeit via very close games.

Should ADMU enter the Finals against UST ..... it just might match the intensity of their 2006 Finals match-up ..... IMO that was one of the best UAAP Finals series ever.
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i agree. watched the whole series back in 2006 at Araneta Coliseum but UST should've swept Ateneo back then if not for the error of leaving Doug Kramer open below the basket in the last second of the first game. sa side pa naman ako ng Ateneo nun nanood and kami lang ng GF ko ang nagcelebrate dun na nakapaligid buong Ateneo supporters. ;D sarap panuorin ng "Go USTe!" chant ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 24, 2012 at 10:51 AM
^ That 2006 Finals series between UST & ADMU was one for the books ..... all down-the-wire games, including Game 3 which went into OT.

That series showed, once again, that nerves of steel are sometimes more useful than talent - when it came to big games in the UAAP ...... Jojo Duncil just took over that series, while JC Intal wilted under pressure. 

By the way, that Game 1 last-second second by Kramer was a result of great "fake-play" from Norman Black ..... if anything, it was a master coach (Black) taking a rookie coach (Jarencio) to school on that instance.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: JT on Sep 24, 2012 at 11:30 AM
woot! 2nd place and twice to beat ang UST! Tigers wag nyo sayangin yan! Go USTe! ;D

Yep and I'm glad NU made it. Historically, laging delikado UST sa FEU kapag knock-out games eh.

Viva USTE!


Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: leomarley on Sep 24, 2012 at 12:03 PM
^ That 2006 Finals series between UST & ADMU was one for the books ..... all down-the-wire games, including Game 3 which went into OT.

That series showed, once again, that nerves of steel are sometimes more useful than talent - when it came to big games in the UAAP ...... Jojo Duncil just took over that series, while JC Intal wilted under pressure. 

By the way, that Game 1 last-second second by Kramer was a result of great "fake-play" from Norman Black ..... if anything, it was a master coach (Black) taking a rookie coach (Jarencio) to school on that instance.

i agree but it was just to delay the inevitable. contra-puelo ang UST sa Ateneo that season.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: leomarley on Sep 26, 2012 at 06:00 PM
Lol at FEU. from possible 2nd place twice-to-beat status to 5th place and kicked out of the Final Four ::)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Hitman on Sep 26, 2012 at 06:01 PM
Great game by la salle and feu! Grabe nga ang mga laro ngayon! Admu vs la salle for final 4!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 26, 2012 at 06:01 PM
Nice game! Great effort by the DLSU team, naghabol ng 10 points in 4th quarter.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 26, 2012 at 06:02 PM
Wow. That was some game! It's La Salle-Ateneo. DLSU won 69-66 over FEU. What a 4th Quarter that was! La Salle came back after being down 10 early in the 4th. They lead by 7 with less that a minute. FEU scores back-to-back threes in 8 seconds to cut it to 1. And the La Salle defense just held on from there.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Wiggum on Sep 26, 2012 at 06:09 PM
I suppose some Ateneans wanted payback against FEU. But an Ateneo-La Salle match-up in the Final Four is not bad either.  :) Tall order for La Salle, but this is a nice win to build on.

UST-NU is also going to be an exciting match-up to watch on Sat.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Sep 26, 2012 at 06:34 PM
I was able to catch the game (3rd and 4th Q) on live streaming.

Congrats to DLSU.  That was a great come from behind win ;)

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 26, 2012 at 07:05 PM
Actually mas maganda panoorin ang UST-NU or FEU-La Salle match-up this season.  ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 27, 2012 at 08:54 PM
This will be a great Final Four.  8)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: -sniper- on Sep 29, 2012 at 12:44 PM
any live stream links?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: leomarley on Sep 29, 2012 at 01:01 PM
Go USTe!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 29, 2012 at 02:12 PM
And they're headed back to the Finals! UST grabs the first Finals slot with a 63-57 win over NU. wala talaga masyado suporta si Parks.. After Mbe, wala na.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: -sniper- on Sep 29, 2012 at 02:17 PM
wala talaga masyado suporta si Parks.. After Mbe, wala na.

agree.

with the loss, would it have any effect on the back-to-back MVP bid of rayray? will karim abdul be able to snatch it?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: sientobente on Sep 29, 2012 at 02:35 PM
any live stream links?

isn't this on studio 23? waiting for the ateneo-la salle match ^-^
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 29, 2012 at 02:35 PM
agree.

with the loss, would it have any effect on the back-to-back MVP bid of rayray? will karim abdul be able to snatch it?

Parks is already MVP. Elims lang kasi. He'll be awarded sa Finals together with Jeron Teng for ROY.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 29, 2012 at 07:16 PM
ADMU-UST for the championship ..... a compelling Finals it will be:

** For one last time, we get to see a Black-Jarencio clash ..... scientific ball versus lakas ng loob

** Fitting that ADMU & Black gets one last chance to erase the stigma of the 2006 Finals upset by UST

** Fitting that UST be the one to prevent ADMU from getting the 5-peat ...... thus preserving the mojo of the 4-peat

** Jesuits vs Dominicans ...... one more time. There's actually some serious ribbing going on, between these orders ..... heard more than a few during my student years.  >:D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Sep 29, 2012 at 07:49 PM
ADMU-UST for the championship ..... a compelling Finals it will be:

** For one last time, we get to see a Black-Jarencio clash ..... scientific ball versus lakas ng loob

** Fitting that ADMU & Black gets one last chance to erase the stigma of the 2006 Finals upset by UST

** Fitting that UST be the one to prevent ADMU from getting the 5-peat ...... thus preserving the mojo of the 4-peat

** Jesuits vs Dominicans ...... one more time. There's actually some serious ribbing going on, between these orders ..... heard more than a few during my student years.  >:D

Exciting finals! I remember 2006. Watched live the painful losses by our team. Duncil and Ababou murdering us. Only the Coach NB drawn up play - aka the Doug Kramer 1 sec. shot was memorable for me! haha! nevermind the two other games after.  ;D ;D ;D

It's gonna be a really exciting finals. UST has the most mobile center in the league who does everything. Good players on all positions. Bench scoring, which ateneo is lacking, is also fantastic with UST. Hopefully, Coach NB and the boys pull out all their aces out of their sleeves and surprise the UST team.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 29, 2012 at 08:05 PM
Ateneo looks like the underdog goin into the finals against UST.
They could have gone 0-2 against UST this season had Coach Black been called for a technical foul during the last few seconds of their last game.
UST is on a roll. Coach Pido's growling tigers are playing with lots of confidence specially Kevin Ferrer who gained confidence watching Kevin Durant leading OKC to the NBA Finals.

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 29, 2012 at 08:09 PM
^^ Like I said, that 2006 Finals was probably the best one in the UAAP ..... I've been watching college hoops for a looong time ..... that 2006 Finals was indeed one for the books. 

All down-the-wire games, with a deciding Game 3 going through a nerve-wracking OT ..... Duncil took over, while Intal cracked under pressure.  ;)

This upcoming Finals will mean a lot of things for Norman Black ..... he gets the chance to go out with the biggest bang possible (5-peat) ...... he gets one final chance to erase the pain of the 2006 loss.

I'm rooting for USTe (they're the clear underdogs) ...... but I'll be hoping more, for a great and controversy-free series - whoever wins.

IMO, this UAAP season has been one for the ages. It's only fitting that we get a Finals series which will make the sport proud.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Sep 29, 2012 at 09:04 PM
^ amazing kiefer, parang sya pa ang veterano kesa Kay Webb.. Great effort by la salle stopping slaughter..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: leomarley on Sep 29, 2012 at 09:23 PM
i'm excited for my alma mater! this will be a repeat of the 2006 season but i think UST has the edge in this series. sana makakuha ako ng tickets for the 2nd game.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: nbc on Sep 29, 2012 at 09:43 PM
UST! UST! UST! ;D

nbc
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: leomarley on Sep 30, 2012 at 06:49 AM
War UST! ;D

if they can shut down Bobby Ray Parks, i bet they can shut down Ravena. ;)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 30, 2012 at 08:04 AM
War UST! ;D

if they can shut down Bobby Ray Parks, i bet they can shut down Ravena. ;)

I'm for USTe ..... but no doubt, they're the clear underdogs in these Finals.

The past few years have shown ADMU stepping it up a few notches come playoffs / Finals ..... ADMU has been a killjoy the past few Finals - winning comfortably most of the time.

Ferrer (much like Chris Camus before) is fast realizing his length can give defensive fits on whoever he's guarding ...... he limited Parks and many are hoping he can limit Ravena as well. Much easier said than done though.

Ravena is a different animal than Parks - he's a righty, way better at creating separation from the defense  ...... has that deceptively quick first-step going to his right (much faster than the current UAAP guards anyway) and has extremely high IQ when going to the basket ..... that is, he knows when to take the shot and when to make the right pass.

IMO, for UST to win it all, it has to go through the guards, specifically Jeric Fortuna ..... Fortuna (and Teng) needs to play a great series for UST to have a chance ..... helps a lot, should Bautista show up with timely threes.

Norman Black is expected to clamp-up on Abdul & Mariano ...... Fortuna needs to score and/or create scoring scenarios to keep ADMU on it's heels.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: vinci on Sep 30, 2012 at 01:17 PM
wtf tapos na semis!!! wala ako napanood ni isa! kelan game 1???
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 30, 2012 at 03:04 PM
This will be a great finals.  UST is the only team who can definitively match up against Ateneo.



Fabilioh!!!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mickmads on Sep 30, 2012 at 03:07 PM
Can't ask for a better finals match-up  ;D

Slaughter needs to step up against abdul if admu wants to win
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Sep 30, 2012 at 03:48 PM
wtf tapos na semis!!! wala ako napanood ni isa! kelan game 1???

Oct. 6, Saturday. MOA.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Sep 30, 2012 at 06:05 PM
Ateneo will definitely miss Erram's hustle and agility around the shaded area. Chua prefers to play outside and Golla is almost a non-factor.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Sep 30, 2012 at 07:12 PM
Ateneo will definitely miss Erram's hustle and agility around the shaded area. Chua prefers to play outside and Golla is almost a non-factor.

Golla once upon a time was quite good. Hopefully he finds his fire and step up during the finals to give the thin front line of UST some fits esp. as erram is out for the season.

Go Ateneo!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 03, 2012 at 03:53 PM
My heart is with UST but i wont mind Coach Norman winning a 5 peat before he quits Ateneo and go back to the PBA.
No doubt Ravena will be in check but i feel it's gonna be Ryan Buenafe who will carry Ateneo on his back once again.

Interesting also are the match ups and it looks even.
Slaughter - Abdul
Salva - Mariano
Buenafe - Ferrer
Ravena - Teng
Tiongson - Fortuna
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: leomarley on Oct 04, 2012 at 07:44 AM
My heart is with UST but i wont mind Coach Norman winning a 5 peat before he quits Ateneo and go back to the PBA.
No doubt Ravena will be in check but i feel it's gonna be Ryan Buenafe who will carry Ateneo on his back once again.

Interesting also are the match ups and it looks even.
Slaughter - Abdul
Salva - Mariano
Buenafe - Ferrer
Ravena - Teng
Tiongson - Fortuna

i don't want Ateneo to get 5 para sacred pa rin ang 4peat ng UST hahaha
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 04, 2012 at 09:09 AM
Well, it's in the hands of UST to prevent that to happen.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 04, 2012 at 10:50 AM
They can limit slaughter, but I don't think they can stop Kiefer from scoring..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Oct 04, 2012 at 06:43 PM
i don't want Ateneo to get 5 para sacred pa rin ang 4peat ng UST hahaha

Just wondering what you mean by sacred?
La Salle also did a 4peat.
Ateneo did it last year and has the chance to do a 5peat this year.
But the record for most consecutive championships is held by UE with 7! Though the 3rd championship was a tie with UST, both being declared co-champions, UE is still considered as having the most consecutive championships. If the co-championship is excluded, UE still would have a 4peat!  ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: -sniper- on Oct 06, 2012 at 01:50 AM
game 1.... just a few more hours.....
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 06, 2012 at 08:37 AM
Yes ;D  It will be a classic series.

I will be rooting for the underdogs ;) 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 06, 2012 at 10:43 AM
Yes ;D  It will be a classic series.

I will be rooting for the underdogs ;) 

Me too i'm for UST!  Go USTE!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: JT on Oct 06, 2012 at 03:22 PM
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Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 06, 2012 at 04:40 PM
UST players playing like a bunch of hungry tigers.
Ateneo will be in trouble as they dont have outside shooters and UST has found ways to stop Ateneo's dribble drive penetration and feeding their BIG man via pick and rolls.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 06, 2012 at 04:49 PM
13 - 0 run by Ateneo, the key to beat UST is for Ateneo to hit their outside shots.
2 treys by Ateneo from Tionsgon and Ravena.

Now 17 - 0 run by Ateneo holding UST scoreless for over 5 mins.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Oct 06, 2012 at 05:40 PM
Ateneo 1 - UST 0
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 06, 2012 at 05:45 PM
83 - 78 Ateneo wins.
Tiongson was a revelation and so was Buenafe and Ravena for hitting those clutch shots.
Salva a career game with 30 pts.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: nbc on Oct 06, 2012 at 05:46 PM
Game 2 next...  Manalo -  matalo, I'm just happy that UST is in the finals. :)

nbc
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 06, 2012 at 05:54 PM
Patibayan ng puso. Clutch shot after clutch shot.

I'm really becoming a fan of Jeric Teng. His younger brother may be better, but he's got a lot more heart. Lamang man sila o tambak, he goes all out on both offense and defense. UST needs Fortuna and Bautista to get going offensively in Game 2. They shouldn't expect much from Abdul kasi he'll be tired defending Slaughter.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: nbc on Oct 06, 2012 at 06:00 PM
Yes, Jeric Teng did not give up. And he could play inside and outside.

What i did not like was UST doing the zone... It was too soft a zone, in my opinion.

nbc
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: ricky on Oct 06, 2012 at 06:02 PM
Palpak coach :(
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Oct 06, 2012 at 06:15 PM
Ateneo and UST are so much alike.They have good centers in Slaughter and Abdul. They have 3 players who can shoot from the outside and slash to the basket in Salva, Ravena and Buenafe for Ateneo and Mariano, Teng and Ferrer for UST. And they have point guards who shoot well but seldom shoot. It all boils down to who can execute well during crunch time.

I'm starting to get annoyed with Pido's antics but it's understandable. If players act and flop to sell fouls, coaches, too, must do everything to sway referees to see and call it for their team. But when done too much, it also affects the players on the court.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 06, 2012 at 07:20 PM
Fortuna and Bautista didnt play their usual games today. Probably 1 or 2 treys from each of them could have changed the outcome of the ball game.
Ateneo just showed their character and championship experience down the stretch.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: nbc on Oct 06, 2012 at 07:32 PM
Quick question. A foul was called in the last shot (3 point shot), that Teng of UST took, which he missed. Even if there was no time... or minimal time left in the game, why wasn't he given the 3 foul shots?

nbc
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Oct 06, 2012 at 07:43 PM
Quick question. A foul was called in the last shot (3 point shot), that Teng of UST took, which he missed. Even if there was no time... or minimal time left in the game, why wasn't he given the 3 foul shots?

nbc

That was what Pido was complaining about at the end but the replay showed that the ball was still in Teng's hands when the clock ran out. I guess that is the reason why the referees did not give Teng 3 free throws anymore. Even if there was a fraction of a second left there was no way UST was going to overcome a 5 point lead. In the spirit of sportsmanship, Pido should have just let it go. But I guess he was still sore at the foul called on Abdul against Ravena.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 06, 2012 at 07:44 PM
Like I keep saying, for UST to win it all, it has to go through the guards, specifically Jeric Fortuna ..... he has to score and create to keep the vaunted ADMU defense on it's heels.

Teng played a great game ..... I didn't expect that much production from him this game though. Norman Black has a knack for shutting down key persons during big games.

I would prefer a scoring Fortuna than a scoring Teng for these Finals ..... a scoring Fortuna means that he's hitting the long ball, driving the lanes and kicking out or drop-passing - probably the best way around that great ADMU defense.

Repeat '06 !    ;)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 06, 2012 at 07:56 PM
Tiongson just got the better of Fortuna in Game 1 and that spelled the difference while the outputs of the rest of their starting fives cancelled each another out.
Again i felt it was Buenafe's BIG TIME 4 pts play that really knocked out UST.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Oct 06, 2012 at 07:59 PM
Tiongson just got the better of Fortuna in Game 1 and that spelled the difference while the outputs of the rest of their starting fives cancelled each another out.
Again i felt it was Buenafe's BIG TIME 4 pts play that really knocked out UST.

And this might just boost Tiongson's confidence.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 06, 2012 at 11:22 PM
Farewell gift of MVP to the Eagles (players and coaching staffs) for entering the finals, iPhone 5 at 42k per unit.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 06, 2012 at 11:34 PM
Is mariano graduating? He and teng are really impressive..  UST did pretty well on slaughter, salva just had one of those good games.. Also, I think pido should let ferrer do his thing in offense, the kid can draw attention. Great game..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 07, 2012 at 12:22 AM
What really blew UST was their third quarter, they were in disaray but recovered only in 4th. Salva had the good shots so he was the highlight, he really played well in this game. Abdul on the other hand played like a rookie incurring a lot of unnecessary fouls either they were from a bad call or just plain sloppy.

My bet withstood, Ravena wouldn't be a contributor in this game because he had a good one last time with La Salle. Ateneo's investment on Buenafe paid off a lot of times come crunch time. Kahit sobrang angas but he reminds me of Noli Locsin. Slaughter, nah he's just tall who can easily take a hoop before. Bantayan mo ng 2 wala na yun di na alam ang gagawin.

Well, it will depend on UST to comeback or else goodbye opportunity again. Mahusay at maliksi yung Ferrer, tingin ko malakas pa rin sila next year. Tingin ko it will be a big game next time by Ravena again.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: leomarley on Oct 07, 2012 at 03:08 AM
have faith in UST. parang '06 lang yan na natalo sila nung first game but came back to win back-to-back games and the championship.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Oct 07, 2012 at 08:13 AM
What really blew UST was their third quarter, they were in disaray but recovered only in 4th. Salva had the good shots so he was the highlight, he really played well in this game. Abdul on the other hand played like a rookie incurring a lot of unnecessary fouls either they were from a bad call or just plain sloppy.

My bet withstood, Ravena wouldn't be a contributor in this game because he had a good one last time with La Salle. Ateneo's investment on Buenafe paid off a lot of times come crunch time. Kahit sobrang angas but he reminds me of Noli Locsin. Slaughter, nah he's just tall who can easily take a hoop before. Bantayan mo ng 2 wala na yun di na alam ang gagawin.

Well, it will depend on UST to comeback or else goodbye opportunity again. Mahusay at maliksi yung Ferrer, tingin ko malakas pa rin sila next year. Tingin ko it will be a big game next time by Ravena again.

But Ravena did contribute his usual averages and his points came at crucial moments in the game. He may not have exploded like he did in the La Salle game but he had other important contributions.

Ferrer is really a pesky defender, what with his height, length and agility, he really would give anyone a hard time.

Salva, with a lesser defender in Mariano, had an easier time getting to the basket. He was left free most of the time.

Adjustments will have to be made by both teams. UST cannot rely on the fact that they can come back from double digit leads. It can happen most of the time but not every time. Ateneo will have to play defense from start to finish. They should not expect their opponents to just give up once the lead becomes big. Unlike last season, all the teams fight it out even to the last second this year.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 07, 2012 at 02:26 PM
Ateneo showed the heart of a champion!

OBF!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Oct 07, 2012 at 10:04 PM
That was what Pido was complaining about at the end but the replay showed that the ball was still in Teng's hands when the clock ran out. I guess that is the reason why the referees did not give Teng 3 free throws anymore. Even if there was a fraction of a second left there was no way UST was going to overcome a 5 point lead. In the spirit of sportsmanship, Pido should have just let it go. But I guess he was still sore at the foul called on Abdul against Ravena.

Sabi ni TJ may time left pa daw. 0.05 secs! unbelievable commentators in Boom and TJ.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 07, 2012 at 10:25 PM
Sabi ni TJ may time left pa daw. 0.05 secs! unbelievable commentators in Boom and TJ.

It wont make a difference in the outcome of the ball game even if Teng was awarded three free throws so the refs just let go with a no call.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 07, 2012 at 10:48 PM
Exactly, dapat di na sinabi ng commentators un, giving false hope pa sa mga fans na hindi nman masyado familiar sa rules..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 07, 2012 at 11:05 PM
Exactly, dapat di na sinabi ng commentators un, giving false hope pa sa mga fans na hindi nman masyado familiar sa rules..

pero kung ending or plus and minus sa pustahan ang pag uusapan, malaking bagay yan no call nayan ksi there was really some contact.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: leomarley on Oct 08, 2012 at 09:15 AM
It wont make a difference in the outcome of the ball game even if Teng was awarded three free throws so the refs just let go with a no call.

it's not actually a no call since pumito ang ref and tumawag ng foul.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: jhelenz on Oct 08, 2012 at 09:30 AM
It wont make a difference in the outcome of the ball game even if Teng was awarded three free throws so the refs just let go with a no call.
imo dapat pinag free throw pa din kahit in won't affect the outcome,para formality lang.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 09, 2012 at 12:00 AM
First time in basketball history   Calvin "The Beast" Abueva is now the only player in history to lead a major basketball league in points, rebounds and assists in a single season.  Yep. first time in the country!  What a beast. 

http://www.philstar.com/SportsArticle.aspx?articleId=857442&publicationSubCategoryId=200 (http://www.philstar.com/SportsArticle.aspx?articleId=857442&publicationSubCategoryId=200)

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 09, 2012 at 12:12 AM
http://www.slamonlineph.com/high-school-college-d-league/throwback-thursday-calvin-abueva-beast-of-baste-by-mico-halili/ (http://www.slamonlineph.com/high-school-college-d-league/throwback-thursday-calvin-abueva-beast-of-baste-by-mico-halili/)

"Calvin, after all, is already legendary at playing “screw you” basketball. Screw my height. Screw your height. Screw your team. Screw your school. Screw the score. Screw the odds. Screw whatever hallowed traditions your university has. Screw your basketball pedigree. Screw your more expensive shoes. Screw your better-paid coach. Screw your training in the US. Screw your fans. Screw your face."

As a Red Lion, I really hate this guy like the Cybercrime Law.  But as a basketball fan, I love him.  Since Jawo and Ginebra left the PBA, I hardly watch anymore.  But I will definitely watch again because of the Beast and his "kanto style" of basketball. 

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Oct 09, 2012 at 03:49 AM
It  really is all about sportsmanship!
Black slams Jarencio, says comments 'mean and uncalled for.'

http://www.philstar.com/SportsArticle.aspx?articleId=857297&publicationSubCategoryId=200&keyword (http://www.philstar.com/SportsArticle.aspx?articleId=857297&publicationSubCategoryId=200&keyword)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 09, 2012 at 10:59 AM
Since Jawo and Ginebra left the PBA, I hardly watch anymore.

Well, you may wana cheer for UST with Jarencio and his BIG J antics.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 09, 2012 at 11:03 AM
Well, you may wana cheer for UST with Jarencio and his BIG J antics.

Yes I am actually.  I did last Saturday and I will again on Thursday.  I have been on a winning streak in my predictions since the NBA 2012 season so I'll try again = UST wins on Thursday.

There is more drama and excitement in collegiate basketball than in the PBA.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: nbc on Oct 09, 2012 at 11:03 AM
I was always a Jaworski fan. And Pido was a batchmate of mine in UST Eng'g. So,  you know who I'm cheering for. The UST Growling Tigers!

nbc
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Oct 09, 2012 at 01:21 PM
Yes I am actually.  I did last Saturday and I will again on Thursday.  I have been on a winning streak in my predictions since the NBA 2012 season so I'll try again = UST wins on Thursday.

There is more drama and excitement in collegiate basketball than in the PBA.

Uy! I was there last saturday sa lowerbox watching the game also!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: JT on Oct 09, 2012 at 01:53 PM
Well, you may wana cheer for UST with Jarencio and his BIG J antics.

Oh yah, in PBA it was Black vs Big J, now it is like Black vs Small J. 

If Pido is able to win this series, most likely he will get a coaching offer to PBA as well.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 09, 2012 at 02:21 PM
Oh yah, in PBA it was Black vs Big J, now it is like Black vs Small J. 

If Pido is able to win this series, most likely he will get a coaching offer to PBA as well.


Probably with his former team GINEBRA?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 09, 2012 at 02:26 PM
Actually Pido did get an offer when he won in 2006 ...... then SMB coach Chot Reyes offered an assistant coach position to Pido after UST's upset Finals win over ADMU (methinks the offer then was just a "power trip" by the always vain Chot Reyes).

Win or lose the current Finals, I don't think Pido gets a PBA head coaching job though ...... not in the ongoing season anyways.

But who knows ...... should Siot Tanquincen still fail to enter the Finals with his loaded GINEBRA team - Pido just might be reunited with ex-UST teammate Alfrancis Chua (and chief UAAP rival Allan Caidic) to run GINEBRA.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: dencio105 on Oct 09, 2012 at 05:14 PM
Pido is currently one of the assistant coaches of Olcen Racela over at Petron Blaze in the PBA together with Rajko Torroman, Biboy Ravanes, Gelacio Abanilla and Bobby Parks Sr.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Oct 09, 2012 at 11:57 PM
Exactly, dapat di na sinabi ng commentators un, giving false hope pa sa mga fans na hindi nman masyado familiar sa rules..

(http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sites/default/files/a_images/people/athletes/100912_BuenafeTengfoul.jpg)

This clears things up.

Clearly he was fouled but with the ball in his hands when time expired. So no 3 pt. shot was given. But since ateneo was in the penalty, UST was to be awarded 2 free throws. Unfortunately, Pido stormed the court immediately and was berating the refs when they were on the way to review the video feed.

Kasalanan din ni Pido bakit hindi nabigyan si Jeric Teng ng free throws. Article below explains why:-

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/10/09/12/why-teng-not-given-free-throws-game-1
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: nbc on Oct 10, 2012 at 12:34 AM
If you're in the act of shooting, and you were fouled, it doesn't matter if the ball is still in your hands or not...

nbc
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 10, 2012 at 01:11 AM
"While the hand of Abdul got all ball, his elbow caught the body of Kiefer. You know, Kiefer is a very good actor, so he managed to get a foul," Badolato said. "There was really a foul, so we can't penalize officials for that."

parang contradictory naman yung mga statement na 'to.. may foul ba talaga o nakuha lang sa acting? looking at this video (around 2:21) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mnKkeQAJbo), I think Keifer just flopped..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: leomarley on Oct 10, 2012 at 04:18 AM
that was a clear flop.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mickmads on Oct 10, 2012 at 06:01 AM
Wow issue parin yan?  ;D Palagay ko winner of game 2 will win the series
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 10, 2012 at 06:57 AM
That was offensive flopping from Ravena ...... however, that kind of "foul" is usually called in the amateurs - especially when the ball carrier is a known scorer/go-to-guy.

It was unfortunate that the ref called it, even when he was at a favorable position to see that it was a good ball swipe.

Pido has a legitimate beef (all the way from their elims 2nd game) ...... however, his rants and antics have bordered on the extreme. He should put a lid on it.

Repeat '06!  O0


Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 10, 2012 at 09:11 AM
UST must play its best basketball if they wana upset Ateneo from winning the 5peat.

The current situation isnt the same as that of 2006 where both teams were just new to the finals.
That Ateneo line up wasnt even that potent and experienced as what the current Ateneo team is.
Aside from having the best players in the league, Ateneo also has 4 consecutive years of championship experience.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mickmads on Oct 10, 2012 at 09:27 AM
Medyo non-factor si Fortuna nung game 1...Im sure babawi yan sa thursday
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Chain on Oct 10, 2012 at 10:18 AM
i love the series!lots of drama goin on :)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 10, 2012 at 12:12 PM
i was very happy UST is in the finals but if Jarencio will keep doing things this way and UST players will keep playing not to lose rather than win the game, NU should have made it to the finals instead

complaining does not lead you anywhere, go out in the court play tough defense and that's it
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: JT on Oct 10, 2012 at 01:42 PM
complaining does not lead you anywhere, go out in the court play tough defense and that's it

It could be part of the psyche war to make other teams to focus or be conscious on this.

If Im Black, I will take Jarencio as assistant in the PBA. Their combined coaching style will seems to be very effective in the pba.



Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: rukawakaide1721 on Oct 10, 2012 at 02:07 PM
"While the hand of Abdul got all ball, his elbow caught the body of Kiefer. You know, Kiefer is a very good actor, so he managed to get a foul," Badolato said. "There was really a foul, so we can't penalize officials for that."

parang contradictory naman yung mga statement na 'to.. may foul ba talaga o nakuha lang sa acting? looking at this video (around 2:21) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mnKkeQAJbo), I think Keifer just flopped..

parang ginisa ni commissioner ang sarili niya sa statement niya na "While the hand of Abdul got all ball, his elbow caught the body of Kiefer. You know, Kiefer is a very good actor, so he managed to get a foul," Badolato said. "There was really a foul, so we can't penalize officials for that."



crucial seconds ng game hindi basta basta pumipito ang mga referee nasa training nila yan ei, I attended training here ng SBP sa KOB....like yung nangyari sa GINEBRA at ROS game nung last game.....sinuspinde ang referee kasi mali ang judgement niya....crucial seconds din yun 12+ seconds...

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 10, 2012 at 06:13 PM
With regard flopping and acting, I remember Philip Cesar as one of the best actors of all time, getting the 6th fouls of Fernandez and Jawo with his terrific acting.  And oh yes, LIM ENG BENG.  These guys are gurus when it comes to acting ;)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: frootloops on Oct 10, 2012 at 10:14 PM
Si Pido parang si Jawo din mag coach habang nasa white board making a play..."Jerich!...ikaw ito...tapos BAM! BAM! BOOM!". Nagkaintindihan na sila nun!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 10, 2012 at 10:35 PM
With regard flopping and acting, I remember Philip Cesar as one of the best actors of all time, getting the 6th fouls of Fernandez and Jawo with his terrific acting.  And oh yes, LIM ENG BENG.  These guys are gurus when it comes to acting ;)
for me flopping is a move only smart players can execute..  But I read somewhere that nba is taking this issue seriously..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: retro12195 on Oct 10, 2012 at 11:26 PM
http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/transcript-mvp-on-up-fighting-maroons-basketball-hindi-na-nga-sumampa-sa-finals-lamang-pa-sila-sa-alaskahan
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: retro12195 on Oct 10, 2012 at 11:33 PM
http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/next-target-for-support-mvp-pokes-fun-at-up-fighting-maroons-in-speech
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: pao9307 on Oct 10, 2012 at 11:40 PM
Go UST!


(dahil wala na ang beloved archers ko  ;D)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 11, 2012 at 05:43 AM
It could be part of the psyche war to make other teams to focus or be conscious on this.

If Im Black, I will take Jarencio as assistant in the PBA. Their combined coaching style will seems to be very effective in the pba.

Pido is already an assistant coach for Petron, I think.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 11, 2012 at 10:04 AM
Si Pido parang si Jawo din mag coach habang nasa white board making a play..."Jerich!...ikaw ito...tapos BAM! BAM! BOOM!". Nagkaintindihan na sila nun!

"Dis is you, Mama(ril)... Dis is you, Dante (Gonzalgo)" ... those were the days...
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: -sniper- on Oct 11, 2012 at 01:03 PM
whoever wins today, it will be 1-1.......

if UST wins, it's 1-1 for the series

if Ateneo wins, it's 1-1 for pido and norman

i would prefer the first one, though. go USTe!!!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: JT on Oct 11, 2012 at 01:28 PM
whoever wins today, it will be 1-1.......

if UST wins, it's 1-1 for the series

if Ateneo wins, it's 1-1 for pido and norman

i would prefer the first one, though. go USTe!!!

Although I go for UST, I also dont mind Ateneo winning the championship.

Para sa akin, both of them are already champion in this season.

 

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: dencio105 on Oct 11, 2012 at 04:46 PM
Game tied 29 all at the half.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: -sniper- on Oct 11, 2012 at 04:50 PM
very low scoring game
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 11, 2012 at 05:04 PM
very low scoring game

UST leading by 6, 38-32.  Great game so far
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 11, 2012 at 05:47 PM
Great, great game 2..... down the wire.

ADMU showing it's poise ..... UST showing it's heart.

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: rochie on Oct 11, 2012 at 05:50 PM
score?
Title: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Furry on Oct 11, 2012 at 05:51 PM
UST 59 ADMU 65

30 secs remaining!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: nbc on Oct 11, 2012 at 05:54 PM
Sayang... good game nontheless. Masakit ang puso ko. hahaha.

Congrats Ateneo.

nbc
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: 2fast2furious on Oct 11, 2012 at 05:54 PM
ateneo wins 65-62
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Hitman on Oct 11, 2012 at 06:00 PM
What a game! But I can't help to suspect that Karim might be dirty in this game. Missed free throws, missed point blank shots, turn overs on crucial situations (foot slipped), etc. Madalang lang akong maghinala pero malakas talaga kutob ko.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 11, 2012 at 06:01 PM
Many missed FT's did UST in ...... still, it was a great game.

What a show by both Ravena & Fortuna ...... too bad one had to lose.



Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 11, 2012 at 06:05 PM
What a game! But I can't help to suspect that Karim might be dirty in this game. Missed free throws, missed point blank shots, turn overs on crucial situations (foot slipped), etc. Madalang lang akong maghinala pero malakas talaga kutob ko.

If Karim was shaving, that's about a good acting job that I've seen ...... his misses were "right there" ..... rattled out most of the time. Besides, it's not as if he has been a great FT shooter. 

Karim was giving it his all ..... I see no funny stuff.

Now, if it was Willie Miller of the PBA ...... that's a different thing altogether (just kidding).  O0
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Hitman on Oct 11, 2012 at 06:07 PM
Agree bro, but some field goals are point blank and the foot slipped? Come on! Lakas talaga hinala ko.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Waxx on Oct 11, 2012 at 06:08 PM
What a game! But I can't help to suspect that Karim might be dirty in this game. Missed free throws, missed point blank shots, turn overs on crucial situations (foot slipped), etc. Madalang lang akong maghinala pero malakas talaga kutob ko.

karim gave his all.. mahirap talaga makashoot vs slaughter...  errors are there but the body language is more of he gave his all..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 11, 2012 at 06:15 PM
Abdul had to hold his ground against Slaughter on defense tapos he was asked to score pa.. the guy was tired.. he spent so much energy trying to push Slaughter away from the paint.. that affects a player's shooting.. at kung pagod na ang player, yung paa ang unang bibigay.. even Slaughter missed point blank shots earlier and he wasn't as tired as Abdul..

UST lost because no one else showed up besides Fortuna.. Mariano, Teng and Ferrer didn't play as well as they did in Game 1..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 11, 2012 at 06:16 PM
Championship experience! What a game.

I'm sure Pido is proud again of his team and never let go in the dying seconds. Sayang fumble talaga lagi sila.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 11, 2012 at 06:17 PM
I was not hoping that much for UST but very good accomplishment nonetheless, by the way was UST expected from the very start to be in the finals?

Ateneo is composed of seasoned players that play their hearts out every game, this finals is a case of you just feel bad someone has to lose and someone has to win.

great season for the UAAP.

next year mukhang Ateneo pa din though the change in the coaching staff would matter much.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 11, 2012 at 06:25 PM
They will lose a lot in the roster next year, new players different coach and dynamics.

They can but I think it would be difficult
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Furry on Oct 11, 2012 at 06:27 PM
Is it just me or was UST living by the 3pt shots? Daming missed opportunity sa offense and nakakahinayang lang talaga, they could've closed it down further pero dami din silang missed free throw. Hats off to Slaughter on that 6 pt run by him.. pero yun tip-in niya, parang goal tending eh. It was still inside the ring but i'm not sure which rules are being followed by the UAAP.

What a great game though! Okay pa din si Kiefer and mataas ang sportsmanship niya to help out his opponent kung natumba. Congrats to ADMU fans and a great way for Coach Norman Black to end his career with the university.
Title: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: frequenzy on Oct 11, 2012 at 06:35 PM
no surprises.it was a great game but ust seems to take too many outside shots.ravena and tiongson again delivered on the clutch.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 11, 2012 at 06:38 PM
Ravena should have gotten the Finals MVP.. Salva may have been great offensively but it was Ravena who orchestrated everything for Ateneo..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Oct 11, 2012 at 06:41 PM
Ravena should have gotten the Finals MVP.. Salva may have been great offensively but it was Ravena who orchestrated everything for Ateneo..

Right. Salva scored 30 in the first game but none in the last 4:30 minutes of the game. This game he didn't also score in the last minutes of the game. It should have been Ravena. But I guess it was given to him since he was graduating. Sentimental favorite.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: paolorenzo on Oct 11, 2012 at 06:44 PM
Nico Salva deserves the finals MVP (again).  He carried the team on Game 1.  He had his contributions this game rin naman.

Kiefer will have many more opportunities to come, and I'm anticipating great battles with Bobby Ray Parks.

Buti na lang talaga ok ang laro ni Chua, while Slaughter was sitting out his foul troubles.

Ateneo will be lucky to be in the final 4 next year.  Wala na silang big men, and new coaching staff.  They better enjoy this year's bonfire.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 11, 2012 at 06:59 PM
Agree bro, but some field goals are point blank and the foot slipped? Come on! Lakas talaga hinala ko.

I actually texted a friend, "mukhang byahe si abdul", then the next ball possession, he made a crucial slip turnover.  But yeah, maybe he was just tired guarding slaughter and was asked to score.  And I don't want to take anything away from the Blue Eagles.  That was some great defense and composure towards the end.  Ravena, man oh man, Ravena owns the last dying seconds in both games.  He rules!  Kiefer again knocked a crucial basket down the stretch.   Parang Jordan shot yun.  And ginawa rin nya nung game 1.  What a player.

UST, on the other hand, kept coming back.  Talagang dala ni Pido ang Ginebra spirit.  Yun nga lang, daming missed free throws at medyo poor execution in the end.

Congrats to Ateneo!  Congrats to UST.  Classic finals.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 11, 2012 at 07:01 PM
It goes w/o question that experience prevailed in the end.
Congratz to the Ateneo team.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 11, 2012 at 07:02 PM
Are we seeing the resurrection of UP next year because of MVP?  Abangan!

http://www.rappler.com/sports/13973-mvp-s-next-team-up (http://www.rappler.com/sports/13973-mvp-s-next-team-up)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: the_w0rks on Oct 11, 2012 at 07:15 PM
5peat. I'm afraid the playing field will be leveled next season though. Slim chance of getting a 6peat.

AMDG!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Oct 11, 2012 at 07:35 PM
Are we seeing the resurrection of UP next year because of MVP?  Abangan!

http://www.rappler.com/sports/13973-mvp-s-next-team-up (http://www.rappler.com/sports/13973-mvp-s-next-team-up)

I think it would be a few years before they reach they become finals contender. Take a look at NU. 2 years already (or is it 3?) money can't buy chemistry, winning mentality, etc.

Happy that MVP is going to support UP. Hopefully most of the money goes to R&D, and buildings. Our state universities need all the help they can get.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Oct 11, 2012 at 07:39 PM
5peat. I'm afraid the playing field will be leveled next season though. Slim chance of getting a 6peat.

AMDG!

One big five!! It might be a bit tougher next year with a more leveled playing field. We have a couple of serviceable big men and hopefully Ryan will be there next year. As long as Ryan, and Kiefer are there we'll be able to compete.

NU will be more competitive with two fil-ams and a couple of call ups from their players serving residency in team B.

Adamson has an african player who'll suit up also.

Next year will be very interesting!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mickmads on Oct 11, 2012 at 08:24 PM
Pati DLSU may foreigners na papasok next season...ADMU lang yata yung walang big man na itim next year (baka pati UE)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 11, 2012 at 08:48 PM
Pati DLSU may foreigners na papasok next season...ADMU lang yata yung walang big man na itim next year (baka pati UE)

The foreigners of DLSU are reportedly very good. 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 11, 2012 at 09:12 PM
Ravena should have gotten the Finals MVP.. Salva may have been great offensively but it was Ravena who orchestrated everything for Ateneo..

 i was supposed to say this too. ravena creates a lot of things for Ateneo while Salva only benefits form situations created for him

in any case, Ravena seems to play better than his father used to in college, mas matangkad lang yata yung tatay, this guy has a very good future sa professional basketball

sayang walang anak si meneses,lastimosa,samboy lim, paul alvarez na nag lalaro ganda sana second generation ng manlilipad
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Oct 11, 2012 at 09:39 PM
Pati DLSU may foreigners na papasok next season...ADMU lang yata yung walang big man na itim next year (baka pati UE)

UE will have an import or two also. 1 guard and one big man. After they were exclaiming that they are the "all filipino" championship team, they've succumbed to the trend also.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 11, 2012 at 09:56 PM
So it's not an All-Filipino Cup in the UAAP also like in the PBA?!  >:D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: edboy7 on Oct 11, 2012 at 10:07 PM
looks like ...Norman Black is going to UP...as MVP is trying rebuild and re-energize it's basketball team ..well rumors lang naman :)....
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 11, 2012 at 11:09 PM
For Season 76 (next year) Ateneo won't have:
Slaughter, Salva, Chua, Gonzaga, Sumalinog
Norman Black and  MVP

DLSU will lose:
Mendoza and Webb

UST will lose:
Afuang and Fortuna

FEU will lose:
M. Bringas and Foronda,

NU will lose:
None.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mickmads on Oct 12, 2012 at 12:49 AM
looks like ...Norman Black is going to UP...as MVP is trying rebuild and re-energize it's basketball team ..well rumors lang naman :)....

Si Bo Perasol dapat magiging coach ng ADMU pero dahil hatak siya ni MVP doon, mukhang magiging consultant na siya for UP
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 12, 2012 at 03:10 AM
NCAA SEMIFINAL GAMES SATURDAY (Filoil Flying V Arena)

4 p.m.—San Beda vs Perpetual Help (Srs)

6 p.m.—Letran vs San Sebastian (Srs)

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: ricky on Oct 12, 2012 at 07:20 AM
Sana Lang mabago ni coach pido attitude nya, yung complaining nya nakakababa ng morale ng players nya. Sa basketball lalo na pag may referee dapat tanggap mo na 7kalaban mo sa court.

Positive attitude sana instead of complaining all the time, he should concentrate on the game plan rather on officiating hehe. Sabagay ok pa din na 2nd place considering ateneo na mas professional when it comes to choosing the players.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 12, 2012 at 08:08 AM
Sana Lang mabago ni coach pido attitude nya, yung complaining nya nakakababa ng morale ng players nya. Sa basketball lalo na pag may referee dapat tanggap mo na 7kalaban mo sa court.

Positive attitude sana instead of complaining all the time, he should concentrate on the game plan rather on officiating hehe. Sabagay ok pa din na 2nd place considering ateneo na mas professional when it comes to choosing the players.

That is if Coach Pido stays with UST --- http://www.philstar.com/sportsarticle.aspx?publicationsubcategoryid=200&articleid=858497&keyword=sp_pba
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: the_w0rks on Oct 12, 2012 at 11:59 AM
One big five!! It might be a bit tougher next year with a more leveled playing field. We have a couple of serviceable big men and hopefully Ryan will be there next year. As long as Ryan, and Kiefer are there we'll be able to compete.

NU will be more competitive with two fil-ams and a couple of call ups from their players serving residency in team B.

Adamson has an african player who'll suit up also.

Next year will be very interesting!

Sayang those Semerads went back to SBC. They could've been good/decent shoo-ins for the team next season. Kelangan talaga ng big man recruit for next season. Puro guards malakas next year. Ravena, Tiongson and Elorde.

Sana tumigil na sa kakaextra rice si Beunafe. His leadership will be needed badly next season.

Interesting Yung DLSU, NU and UST, of course. The Teng brothers will battle it out for top Guard in the league with Parks and Ravena. Let's see what happens sa recruitment next summer. Wala akong updates sa recruitment. :(
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 13, 2012 at 11:46 AM
(http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/385073_476292895734936_823865755_n.jpg)

San Beda faces a very dangerous Perpetual Help, one of the two teams who beat San Beda in the elims.  And Perpetual has an outstanding coach in Aric Del Rosario, the ex-UST coach who gave them a 4-peat.
Go San Beda Fight ;D

Letran vs Stags is also a good matchup.  It's Abueva vs Alas.  I'll go for the Stags though.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 13, 2012 at 05:34 PM
^ Arriba Letran.. Beat the stags.. Beat them hard.. :)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 13, 2012 at 06:08 PM
Galing ng Perpetual Help ;D.  They almost beat San Beda in this game.  Fortunately, kinapos yun mga three points nila.  San Beda won a hard fought battle, 56-52.  Doon na lang lumamang ang SBC as the Altas were leading 3/4 of the way.  Back in the finals for the Red Lions ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 13, 2012 at 06:19 PM
im just wondering, kung si Aric kaya ang coach ng UST versus Ateneo, iba kaya ang resulta?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 13, 2012 at 09:42 PM
SEMIS Game Result: SENIORS

Letran def. San Sebastian, 92-74. Rubber match will be on Monday, Oct 15, 5pm at the FILOIL FLYING V ARENA

What a game by Kevin Alas!  43 points with 10 3 pointers.  He was on a Playstation mode.  Madugong laban to sa Monday ;)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Oct 13, 2012 at 09:49 PM
SEMIS Game Result: SENIORS

Letran def. San Sebastian, 92-74. Rubber match will be on Monday, Oct 15, 5pm at the FILOIL FLYING V ARENA

What a game by Kevin Alas!  43 points with 10 3 pointers.  He was on a Playstation mode.  Madugong labang to sa Monday ;)

When the first half ended with Abueva's last shot being blocked, I knew it was going to be a long night for San Sebastian. I didn't bother to watch the second half. :)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 13, 2012 at 11:15 PM
What a game by Kevin..  :)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 15, 2012 at 11:03 AM
im just wondering, kung si Aric kaya ang coach ng UST versus Ateneo, iba kaya ang resulta?

Hindi natin masabi.  Magaling din naman si Coach Pido lalo mag motivate ng players.  He gave UST one championship so you can't really argue with success. 

I noticed Coach Aric, meron sya assistant coach at yun ang gumagawa ng play pag huddle.  Si Coach Aric nakaupo lang.  Di na nakikialam.  Parang consultant ang dating. 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 15, 2012 at 11:08 AM
KNIGHTS VS STAGS DO OR DIE MATCH - Parang action movie yun laban mamaya!  Watch it live at AKTV 5pm :)

"Game officials should be on their toes as the match could only be more rugged and intense than Saturday’s tussle where elbows, punches and kicks were thrown.

The Knights were putting the wraps on their huge win when Kristoffer “Junjun” Alas was caught hitting SSC forward Michael Miranda at midsection on a rebound play. Alas was ejected from the game and suspended for today’s rubber.

Arvin Vitug is also suspended for today’s game for an elbow foul (above the shoulder) on Carlo Lituania.

Several other technical infractions were called including one on SSC do-it-all player Calvin Abueva for kicking Jonathan Belorio in the groin."


full article :  http://www.philstar.com/sportsarticle.aspx?publicationsubcategoryid=69&articleid=859717&keyword=sp_pba (http://www.philstar.com/sportsarticle.aspx?publicationsubcategoryid=69&articleid=859717&keyword=sp_pba)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: a2 on Oct 15, 2012 at 11:16 AM
I noticed Coach Aric, meron sya assistant coach at yun ang gumagawa ng play pag huddle.  Si Coach Aric nakaupo lang.  Di na nakikialam.  Parang consultant ang dating. 

i think that's his son, lester del rosario.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 15, 2012 at 07:29 PM
Letran moves on to the Finals. They won 73-70 vs SSC. It was a great game but the referees made bad calls in the crucial moments of the game. Abueva choked on his FTs that would have given them the win. But as an Alaska fan, I'm happy Baste lost. PBA na si Calvin! ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 15, 2012 at 08:06 PM
Letran deserve to be in the finals, they were the hungrier team. Played excellent defense in the dying minutes and maitained composure in the offensive end

Same as last year, Abueva lost this game again for his team, he has not learned his lessons, last year he lost the game for his team as well, took ill advised shots when the game mattered most,

im an Alaska fan but i think the worst they did is pick Abueva over Hodge or Ellis, im not seeing this guy prospering in the pros baka parang si herny fernandez lang or biboy simon ang kakalabasan nito
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: frequenzy on Oct 15, 2012 at 08:13 PM
Letran deserve to be in the finals, they were the hungrier team. Played excellent defense in the dying minutes and maitained composure in the offensive end

Same as last year, Abueva lost this game again for his team, he has not learned his lessons, last year he lost the game for his team as well, took ill advised shots when the game mattered most,

im an Alaska fan but i think the worst they did is pick Abueva over Hodge or Ellis, im not seeing this guy prospering in the pros baka parang si herny fernandez lang or biboy simon ang kakalabasan nito
i remember biboy simon when playing with the now defunct mba. basta kita ring tira :-)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 15, 2012 at 08:26 PM
i remember biboy simon when playing with the now defunct mba. basta kita ring tira :-)

same as henry fernandez sir kaya silang dalawa naisip ko pag pinapanood ko si abueva, he had more than 20 rebounds kanina but one year did not do a lot sa maturity nya sa game, he is the same player as last year

on the other hand, sanggalang may have a very good future sa basketball, moves very well for a big man
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 15, 2012 at 08:27 PM
Same as last year, Abueva lost this game again for his team, he has not learned his lessons, last year he lost the game for his team as well, took ill advised shots when the game mattered most,

im an Alaska fan but i think the worst they did is pick Abueva over Hodge or Ellis, im not seeing this guy prospering in the pros baka parang si herny fernandez lang or biboy simon ang kakalabasan nito

Well for a player like Abueva ....... you take the good, with the bad. He can fill-up a stat sheet, make unbelievable plays & lose it for you - all in the same game.

Just like Ron Jacobs said about Asaytono all those years ago ..... "You just ride the bull and see where it takes you."

I had actually preferred ALASKA to pick Hodge over Abueva ..... both have mad hops and great energy - though, Hodge is the lesser risk because of Abueva's gung-ho game.   

That being said, Abueva isn't a bad choice himself ...... he actually has the higher upside than Hodge.

It would have been nice if it was Tim Cone who guides Abueva through his rookie season, rather than the usually inept Trillo ...... for ALASKA's sake, Abueva should pick his spots and concentrate on crashing the boards.

===============================================================

Great game by LETRAN by the way.  ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 15, 2012 at 08:43 PM
The Stags lost definitely not because of Abueva.. they lost because of Pascual.. Abueva carried the Stags against Letran.. Sangalang disappeared in Game 1 tapos Pascual always took ill-advised 3s in Game 2.. si Abueva lang gumawa.. he scored, he created, he got the rebounds and he played defense.. and more importantly, he kept his cool kanina.. si Pascual, di na nga umiiskor, ang lakas pa magreklamo.. Abueva did his part..

Abueva will thrive in the PBA.. he's a hard worker.. hard workers and hustle guys have long careers in the PBA.. and with Alaska's current line-up and coaching staff, he has no room to act out.. those 2 players you mentioned (Simon/Fernandez) are not in the same caliber as Abueva.. those players only know how to score.. as for getting picked ahead of Hodge/Ellis, Abueva has a better all-around game than the other 2.. he's smaller and a potential head case but has more room to grow.. with Hontiveros and Compton on the team, his shooting can improve.. Topex and Louie Alas will know how to handle him.. and with the way Uytengsu has valued professionalism in his team, there's no way Abueva will be allowed any shenanigans..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: rukawakaide1721 on Oct 15, 2012 at 09:08 PM
+1 ^ ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 15, 2012 at 10:06 PM
im willing to be proven wrong sir after all im an Alaska fan too so lets see where abuevas career goes.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 16, 2012 at 12:38 AM
^ plus 1, Abueva will excel in PBA if properly coached.. He has the talent, guidance na lng or he'll end up playing abroad..Anyway Before the game 2 started, i know abueva will score double double, But i was more concern on baste's dela Cruz and juico, these 2 G/F are smart players buti na lang ng focus masyado ky Kevin.. great game.. Next stop, the mighty beda..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 16, 2012 at 06:31 AM
^ plus 1, Abueva will excel in PBA if properly coached.. He has the talent, guidance na lng or he'll end up playing abroad..Anyway Before the game 2 started, i know abueva will score double double, But i was more concern on baste's dela Cruz and juico, these 2 G/F are smart players buti na lang ng focus masyado ky Kevin.. great game.. Next stop, the mighty beda..

Abueva's game suits the PBA.  As a Red Lion, I hate this guy.  As a basketball fan, I love Abueva.  He has that "you-love-or-hate-him" persona only a few players like Jawo carry.  He is a hardworker, having played street basketball in Pampanga all his life before going to college basketball.  As I said, manonood ulit ako ng PBA dahil kay Abueva. I hope he brings back the glory days of the Crispa Toyota era with his brand of play.

---

Congrats to Letran Knights!  http://www.inboundpass.com/2012/10/15/letran-will-face-san-beda-in-the-ncaa-finals/   The winner will break the tie of 16 Championships in the NCAA.  If we go by the kontrapelo analysis ( which is kinda silly i know ), San Beda will win.  Letran hasn't beaten San Beda in the elims.  Baste hasn't beaten Letran in the elims and got swept in the semis.  San Beda hasn't beaten Baste.  Kontrapelo. 

But in the more intelligent analysis, this will be an even fight.  F%^$ kontrapelo.  Letran is on a roll, riding high on Kevin Alas and a whole bunch of hungry troopers plus a very good coach in Louie Alas. Very nice match up against the Red Lions. 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 16, 2012 at 06:47 AM
Rivalry revived ;D

"The rivalry started on October 28, 1950 when Letran and San Beda meet in the finals for the first time. Letran then was led by Lauro Mumar while San Beda was led by Carlos Loyzaga who eventually became legends of Philippine Basketball. During the second round of eliminations Letran was on the verge of sweeping the tournament to become eventual champions (the Final 4 format was not yet implemented), but San Beda spoiled it and beat them to arrange a championship showdown with the Knights. In the finals Letran got their sweet revenge as they beat San Beda to get their second title in the NCAA. The Letran team was called "Murder Inc." by the late Willie Hernandez because of their merciless brand of basketball, very unforgiving. After that historic match San Beda kept on winning many championships until the 70's while Letran ended the 70's with only six championships. In the 80's the NCAA saw the downfall of the San Beda basketball program while Letran peaked and became a powerhouse team that will continue until the millennium decade."
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 16, 2012 at 10:16 AM
Much like in the UAAP where UST was the clear underdog versus ADMU ....... LETRAN (Dominican yet again) will be the clear underdog versus SAN BEDA (MVP-backed yet again) in these NCAA Finals.

Strange parallels indeed ...... SAN BEDA has the talent and the championship poise to likely offset the heart of LETRAN.

I would have wanted for Abueva & company to get one more crack at the Finals ....... it wasn't meant to be for the Beast. 



Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 16, 2012 at 03:07 PM
I like being the underdog, its sweeter when you beat a rival, but beda is totally opposite of baste, they're a discipline team in both ends.. Its gonna be hard but I hope knights win.. Arriba baby..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: blue_123 on Oct 16, 2012 at 05:10 PM
Kailan start ng championship games?  :)  Galing ng Letran
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 16, 2012 at 05:27 PM
Much like in the UAAP where UST was the clear underdog versus ADMU ....... LETRAN (Dominican yet again) will be the clear underdog versus SAN BEDA (MVP-backed yet again) in these NCAA Finals.

Strange parallels indeed ...... SAN BEDA has the talent and the championship poise to likely offset the heart of LETRAN.

I would have wanted for Abueva & company to get one more crack at the Finals ....... it wasn't meant to be for the Beast. 



why do I have the feeling that it will be a difficult thing for Beda this time? Maybe because of the coach of Beda and it seems the guards of Letran are really hard to stop

id Go with Letran in this series
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 16, 2012 at 06:08 PM
im willing to be proven wrong sir after all im an Alaska fan too so lets see where abuevas career goes.

He'll eventually be traded to one of the SMC teams so i dont expect Abueva to excel with the Alaska team.

Btw, when is Game 1 of the NCAA finals?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 16, 2012 at 06:51 PM
He'll eventually be traded to one of the SMC teams so i dont expect Abueva to excel with the Alaska team.


as I said in recent post, not for any team actually
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 16, 2012 at 08:09 PM
^ Game 1 is on Thursday 6PM @ MOA Arena.. buti  na lang sa NCAA konti lang students, so makakanuod ako ng live, madali lang tickets, well sana..

Go Knights..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 16, 2012 at 09:58 PM
as I said in recent post, not for any team actually

Calvin is a Rudy Hatfield type of a player so if given the proper exposure and tenure to develop for a certain team, he will really be a BEAST.
Problem is, rookies nowadays are being traded too often from teams to teams so they cant develop well.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 17, 2012 at 07:50 AM
why do I have the feeling that it will be a difficult thing for Beda this time? Maybe because of the coach of Beda and it seems the guards of Letran are really hard to stop

id Go with Letran in this series

I said before Letran was the "easier" opponent.  But now I am not sure anymore. 

http://sports.inquirer.net/66558/letran-different-team-now-says-san-beda-team-manager
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 17, 2012 at 09:47 AM
Much have been said about the upcoming superstars in Kiefer RAVENA, Jeron TENG, and Ray PARKS Jr but Letran's Kevin ALAS is a tough nut to crack. If he can win it all for Letran, then he'll finally get the recognition he deserves.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 17, 2012 at 09:52 AM
He'll eventually be traded to one of the SMC teams so i dont expect Abueva to excel with the Alaska team.

Possible, though unlikely for now bro ...... ALASKA CEO Steve Uytengsu refrains from doing transactions with SMC teams, except when the trade offer gets them significant returns ..... some of the recent ones: Miller-Baguio, Tenorio-Casio/Hontiveros & Cortez/Bono-Tenorio/Fonacier

When ALASKA does player trades, it's done with the intention of improving the team or complying with the league salary cap (staying under it).

Now if it was a Bert Lina team (BARAKO & AIR21) or Mikee Romero's team (GLOBAL PORT) owning the rights to a player like Calvin Abueva ...... mabilis pa sa alas-kwatro, na-benta este na-trade na yang si Abueva sa SMC.  ;D

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Forgot to sound off earlier, on that non-call on LETRAN's Kevin Alas in the dying seconds of their game against BASTE ...... it was very clear that Kevin Alas fouled Ronald Pascual, while Pascual was attempting a three-point shot. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC6rmIYi0eQ&feature=youtu

Sayang. If it was called right, it's likely that BASTE enters the Finals instead of LETRAN ...... still, BASTE had their other chances to win it for them ..... just don't want to see bad calls/non-calls by the refs, deciding the outcome of a game.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 17, 2012 at 10:19 AM
Looks like clear foul by Alas on Pascual.
No protest from Baste?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 17, 2012 at 10:37 AM
Much have been said about the upcoming superstars in Kiefer RAVENA, Jeron TENG, and Ray PARKS Jr but Letran's Kevin ALAS is a tough nut to crack. If he can win it all for Letran, then he'll finally get the recognition he deserves.
If natuloy si kevin sa la salle 3 years ago, he and kiefer would have been a good match up..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 17, 2012 at 10:46 AM
Looks like clear foul by Alas on Pascual.
No protest from Baste?

A very clear foul on Kevin Alas indeed ...... the refs blew it (no pun intended).

I dont think there was a formal protest from BASTE ...... but NCAA Commish Joe Lipa jumped the gun and immediately conferred with the technical committee and declared that there was no foul.

" ..... Lipa talked to the referees together with referees supervisor Romy Guevarra and technical committee member Bai Cristobal, the officials explained that Pascual had extended one leg to initiate contact with Alas on the play - the reason they decided not to blow their whistles."

IMO, Lipa and company got it wrong ..... Pascual may have intended to extend his leg to initiate the contact - if it was so, the videos clearly show that his motion didn't even make it halfway through. In fact, Kevin Alas' hit was more pronounced, that it sent Pascual going back all the way to the floor (!)

Also, if it was Pascual extending his leg on his three-point shot (many players of old used to do this, Jarencio, Caidic, etc) ...... then the refs should have called it as an offensive foul.

Like I said, the refs blew it by not blowing the whistle ...... sayang for BASTE. 

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 17, 2012 at 11:28 AM
If natuloy si kevin sa la salle 3 years ago, he and kiefer would have been a good match up..

Alas and Jeron Teng could have done wonders for DLSU this year.
Anyway let's wait and see if Kevin can take SJLC to glory land against the very experienced SBC Red Lions.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 17, 2012 at 11:39 AM
Much have been said about the upcoming superstars in Kiefer RAVENA, Jeron TENG, and Ray PARKS Jr but Letran's Kevin ALAS is a tough nut to crack. If he can win it all for Letran, then he'll finally get the recognition he deserves.

Agree.  But with or without a championship, I'd say Kevin Alas is up there with the likes of Ravena, Teng, Parks.  He got game, ika nga.

Already have patron tickets for Game 1 tomorrow. Yehey!!  Go SBC fight!!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 17, 2012 at 01:19 PM
He'll eventually be traded to one of the SMC teams so i dont expect Abueva to excel with the Alaska team.


(http://cms.interaksyon.com/interaktv/assets/2012/08/calvin-abueva-alaska.jpg)

P8.7Million for 3 years is not bad for the Beast ;D  Incidentally, Letran Coach Louie Alas is the assistant coach of Alaska so magkasama na pala sila ni Abueva.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: frequenzy on Oct 17, 2012 at 01:28 PM
para sa akin kailngan pa rin ng alaska ng magaling na coach. trillo is ok but for me he's not a pba head coach material
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 18, 2012 at 07:40 PM
Grabe depensa ng Letran sa 2nd quarter, completely out hassling and shutting down the Lions.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 18, 2012 at 11:09 PM
Lions steal Game 1 62 - 60 against the Knights.
Art de la Cruz saved the day for the Lions with unexpected timely hits.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 18, 2012 at 11:54 PM
Lions steal Game 1 62 - 60 against the Knights.
Art de la Cruz saved the day for the Lions with unexpected timely hits.

Watched this live.  Yes, agree.  We STOLE game 1.  Letran had the better defense and strategy.  SBC can't execute their run and gun offense like we did last year vs San Sebastian.  We don't even have a consistent shooter as we lost Lanete and Hermida this year.  But aside from Art dela Cruz, it was this little guard Koga who played hero today.  Down by 8 in the 3rd, Koga exploded with 6 unanswered points, all layups to rally SBC.  He also made a crucial 3 in the 4th. 

Kevin Alas was great as usual but a passing error in the dying seconds was really a heartbreaker for Letran.  Down by only 2 off two missed shots by Ola, Alas couldn't take a decent shot and passed to the wrong guy. Game over.  Alas was so frustrated that his father coach had to rush oncourt to console him as Kevin was on the verge of crying.  That was a touching scene between Father and son.  I feel for Kevin.  The guy wanted to win so badly. 

So the kontrapelo is still in effect eh?

(http://images3a.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp734%3B5%3Enu%3D3268%3E%3A7%3B%3E335%3EWSNRCG%3D383942%3C%3A%3B632%3Bnu0mrj)

My first time at MOA Arena.  I like Araneta better.  The seats are smaller and you feel cramped.  But the lighting is splendid and you need a jacket because it's cold!! Glad that game 2 is in Araneta on Saturday ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 19, 2012 at 08:49 AM
Great game.. See u in game 2.. Hope knights could force a rubber match para maganda.. Arriba..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Oct 19, 2012 at 10:30 AM
My first time at MOA Arena.  I like Araneta better.  The seats are smaller and you feel cramped.  But the lighting is splendid and you need a jacket because it's cold!! Glad that game 2 is in Araneta on Saturday ;D

I've watched around 3-5 times in MOA for the UAAP games. Acoustically, Araneta is better! The Arena is "shallower" and quite steep if you look at the upper box sections. So if youre gonna watch a basketball game in MOA go for the patron or lowerbox seats. Though i haven't tried the upper a and GA sections of the Arena, i don't think it would be value for your money.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 19, 2012 at 11:45 AM
I've watched around 3-5 times in MOA for the UAAP games. Acoustically, Araneta is better! The Arena is "shallower" and quite steep if you look at the upper box sections. So if youre gonna watch a basketball game in MOA go for the patron or lowerbox seats. Though i
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 19, 2012 at 07:23 PM
Abueva 12 Points, 16 Rebounds on his first ever game as a Pro.  At wala pang alam sa triangle offense yan ha?  And Alaska won.  The Beast is here.  He is for real.   >:D

I like that mean smirk he gave Washington after nautakan nya.  I like that follow up tip in outjumping Dorian Pena.  And I like that "gulang" over Cabagnot sending the poor guy to the floor.  Aba'y nagmukhang rookie sila laban kay the Beast ;D

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 20, 2012 at 10:12 PM
Aribba LETRAN!
Letran wins game 2 against the Lions 64 - 55 forces Game 3.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 20, 2012 at 10:56 PM
Proving that game 1 'almost win' was not a fluke.. Great team effort.. Go Knights..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 21, 2012 at 08:23 AM
Props to the Knights.  I actually thought Beda would close the series yesterday.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 21, 2012 at 08:59 AM
Letran was obviously the hungrier team.
Hope it will be a dream come true for the father coach and sons as they win together for Letran come game 3.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 21, 2012 at 10:53 AM
Proving that game 1 'almost win' was not a fluke.. Great team effort.. Go Knights..

As I said in my previous post, Letran was the more cohesive, fluid team.  They could've been up 2-0 and champs now if not for that great escape by us (yup, I'm a Red Lion) and that turnover by Alas in Game 1.  Obviously, San Beda lacked shooters and a take charge guy.  Yes, they were able to defend well in the 3rd quarter giving only 4 points to Letran but they also couldn't score!!  There was a stretch na sobrang minalas na ang Letran, they kept missing point blank shots and committing turnovers but SBC couldn't capitalize.  San Beda can't rely on Ola alone and his inside game because Letran is a very good defensive team with a very good coach in Alas.  For us to win, we need to hit open jumpers and three point shots.  That's what Letran did in the 4th - score 23 points!! Those three point shots by Belorio and Mark Cruz were killers.  Langya, sa harap pa namin tumira yun Cruz, aray ko napakasakit...

So the kontrapelo has ended.  And so did the 15 game, 5 year losing streak of the Knights versus the Lions.  Their last win was back in 2007.  Law of averages finally caught up with SBC, and what a time to happen. 

One more game.  For pride and honor.  For the 17th NCAA crown, the most ever.  This will be a classic.  Will it be the Knights in Shining Armor?  Or the Lions Roaring again?  Abangan....
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: atl on Oct 21, 2012 at 11:04 AM
(http://cms.interaksyon.com/interaktv/assets/2012/08/calvin-abueva-alaska.jpg)
look at the length of his arms... no wonder at only 6'2" he can out rebound much bigger opponents.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 21, 2012 at 10:46 PM
GAME 3 WILL BE HELD AT THE ARANETA SMART COLISEUM ON FRIDAY, OCTOBER 26, 2012 @ 1PM.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 21, 2012 at 10:52 PM
I heard it was moved bro due to derby daw..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 21, 2012 at 11:13 PM
GAME 3 WILL BE HELD AT THE ARANETA SMART COLISEUM ON FRIDAY, OCTOBER 26, 2012 @ 1PM.

What? That's after 6 days and definitely not in favor of Letran as they may cool off during the long break.
I'm almost certain that the Knights may win it all should the sudden death game be held this coming tuesday.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 22, 2012 at 07:27 AM
http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/ncaa-sets-game-three-between-letran-and-san-beda-on-friday-1-p-m-at-smart-araneta (http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/ncaa-sets-game-three-between-letran-and-san-beda-on-friday-1-p-m-at-smart-araneta)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 22, 2012 at 08:08 AM
tnx tnx, see u in game in 3.. Go Knights..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 22, 2012 at 08:57 AM
What's this? Officials charging towards a coach? he should be warned and suspended for his behavior.
http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/video-ncaa-referee-supervisor-charges-at-letran-coach-louie-alas
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 23, 2012 at 12:10 PM
sold out na patron tickets, upperbox na lang. :)

Go Knights..

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 25, 2012 at 07:55 AM
sold out na patron tickets, upperbox na lang. :)

Go Knights..



WTF?!!^%  Yes Patron and Lower tickets have been sold out.  And both camps are accusing each other of hoarding.  Nasaan ang mga tickets?  Magpakita ka!

-

Isang tulog na lang.  May champion na bukas sa NCAA ;D

--

On another note, Alas submits public apology - http://sports.inquirer.net/67824/alas-submits-written-apology-heat-of-the-moment
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: the_w0rks on Oct 25, 2012 at 08:56 AM
WTF?!!^%  Yes Patron and Lower tickets have been sold out.  And both camps are accusing each other of hoarding.  Nasaan ang mga tickets?  Magpakita ka!

-

Isang tulog na lang.  May champion na bukas sa NCAA ;D

--

On another note, Alas submits public apology - http://sports.inquirer.net/67824/alas-submits-written-apology-heat-of-the-moment

bro nakakuha ka ng good tix? my connections have failed me so far. Even my insiders in ticketnet couldn't give me patron tix as it was allegedly given out to the schools. HOARDED for sure. Only upper b tix were left in the schools (had someone go to both my alma mater and letran). So clearly, may naghoard. kakabwisit. held out from buying upperbox b kasi mukhang langgam na yun. TV na lang ako if kahit upper A di ako makakuha.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 25, 2012 at 09:27 AM
bro nakakuha ka ng good tix? my connections have failed me so far. Even my insiders in ticketnet couldn't give me patron tix as it was allegedly given out to the schools. HOARDED for sure. Only upper b tix were left in the schools (had someone go to both my alma mater and letran). So clearly, may naghoard. kakabwisit. held out from buying upperbox b kasi mukhang langgam na yun. TV na lang ako if kahit upper A di ako makakuha.

Umaasa pa.  Still waiting for my contacts.  Baka naman last minute maglabasan.  Bahala na.  Good luck to you.  San Beda ka pala!!  What's your batch?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: TOY 01 on Oct 25, 2012 at 09:44 AM
^ Sa sulit meron nagbebenta ang patron P2500 sobrang mahal.
 
Meron ako nakuha sa lower box... :)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 25, 2012 at 09:46 AM
^ Sa sulit meron nagbebenta ang patron P2500 sobrang mahal.
 
Meron ako nakuha sa lower box... :)

Good for you. Pwede na yan lower box.  Madami ako batchmates ngayon pumatol na sa GA ;)

P2,500 is way over priced.  TV na lang ako kung ganon.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: the_w0rks on Oct 25, 2012 at 10:41 AM
Umaasa pa.  Still waiting for my contacts.  Baka naman last minute maglabasan.  Bahala na.  Good luck to you.  San Beda ka pala!!  What's your batch?
yes bro. haha. relatively "fresh" pa. batch 2008 na ako e. naabutan ko na yun naging co-ed. nung college ako, mas nadadalian pa ako makakuha ng tickets. kaklase ko kasi sila aljamal nun. haha
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 25, 2012 at 12:14 PM
^ I never thought na ma sold out agad ang tickets, especially sa ncaa, maliit lng nman letran community.. But iba talaga pag rival.. Go knights..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: the_w0rks on Oct 25, 2012 at 04:26 PM
Agahan na lang bukas magbabakasakali. meron daw release tomorrow ng patron/lowerbox. padamihan na lang ng varicose veins after the long line.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 25, 2012 at 06:05 PM
Good luck to u bro, not to ur team though, Just kidding.. Sana wala ng ulan and traffic.. Btw, where's  the best parking slot when going to araneta?..  The last time I watched there was 7 years ago..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 25, 2012 at 09:52 PM
^ I never thought na ma sold out agad ang tickets, especially sa ncaa, maliit lng nman letran community.. But iba talaga pag rival.. Go knights..

This is the first time this has happened - run out of tickets in this magnitude! Grabe.  Yun source namin sa loob na dati rati may 10 patron tickets ngayon, for the first time after 9 years ( since 2003 ), UBOS.  Yun isa naming source from Arellano na every game may 2 compli tickets na patron can only spare us LB tickets. Ganun katindi ang kakulangan ng tickets this year.   Ang balita may nagsindikato sa loob.  Scalpers galore. 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 25, 2012 at 09:54 PM
yes bro. haha. relatively "fresh" pa. batch 2008 na ako e. naabutan ko na yun naging co-ed. nung college ako, mas nadadalian pa ako makakuha ng tickets. kaklase ko kasi sila aljamal nun. haha

Di pala tayo nagkakalayo, 20 years lang gap natin.  1988 ako CAS.  Batch nila Esplana, De Joya.  hahaha. Tanda ko na.  Ayos yan...
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 25, 2012 at 09:55 PM
Good luck to u bro, not to ur team though, Just kidding.. Sana wala ng ulan and traffic.. Btw, where's  the best parking slot when going to araneta?..  The last time I watched there was 7 years ago..

I usually park sa open parking before Araneta.  Yun sa may tapat ng SM.  Or sa loob ng Shopwise. Madami dun.  Tapos tawid na lang.  OR I park in Shang Edsa tapos MRT na lang.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 26, 2012 at 09:44 AM
Copy, thanks bro..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: frootloops on Oct 26, 2012 at 03:21 PM
Congrats San Beda!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: frootloops on Oct 26, 2012 at 03:45 PM
Glaring stats by Kevin Alas sa Finals, 1/26 from the 3pt shot.  ^-^
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 26, 2012 at 04:11 PM
Congrats Red Lions..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: the_w0rks on Oct 26, 2012 at 05:13 PM
Glaring stats by Kevin Alas sa Finals, 1/26 from the 3pt shot.  ^-^

naubos lahat ng tres sa laban versus San Sebastian!

iyak ng iyak kanina eh. He must have felt guilty for not being able to produce for the finals. 1/26 sa buong finals series yan?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 26, 2012 at 07:46 PM
(http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/22482_4788711600534_736755740_n.jpg)

Game was over in the first half.  San Beda OWNS Letran big time in Game 3. It's called Championship poise and experience.  San Beda has that being in the finals for the past 7 consecutive years, winning 6 of them.  Letran has the talent and definitely hungry after they smelled blood in game 2 but in the end, their lack of experience was very glaring.

Nalula ang Letran sa dami ng naka blue. Tingin ko mas madami ang naka blue shirt lalo sa patron.  I even saw Chavit Singson but he left after the first half.  Clearly, the pressure was too much for the Letran players to handle.  Except for Mark Cruz, the rest of the players including Alas were either shooting bricks, making hurried shots or turnovers. 

San Beda, on the other hand, played like a well oiled machine. Offense and defense clicked.  Parang bale wala ang game 3.  Again, championship experience. 

Sweet 17 indeed.  Congratulations to San Beda.  And Letran was a formidable opponent.  At least nabuhay ulit and rivalry!

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 26, 2012 at 08:09 PM
Are you sure about this?  Ibig sabihin kung pumasok lahat e naka 78 points sya?  Parang Kobe Bryant?  Baka naman less than that? 

Or you were just trying to exaggerate bro? 

sa buong series yata itong stat
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 26, 2012 at 08:11 PM
he was 1/9 in game 1.. 0/7 in game 2.. that's 1/16 in just 2 games.. didn't see the game earlier but judging from the score and knowing Alas' game, I bet he hoisted 10 3's earlier.. so 1/26 is a possible stat for Alas in 3pt FG sa Finals.. Alas is a good player but I've never been impressed with big time scorers from the NCAA especially in the recent years.. parang yun lang kasi alam nila..

looks like the Alas era in Letran is over.. Louie is leaving and Kevin is not sure he's coming back for his final year.. San Beda na naman 'to next year..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: frootloops on Oct 26, 2012 at 08:34 PM
Correct...1/26 3pt FG is for the Finals alone.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 26, 2012 at 10:58 PM
Inalat si Alas ng Finals pala.  Namaga yun ring sa dami ng missed 3 point shots ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: the_w0rks on Oct 27, 2012 at 01:30 AM
he was 1/9 in game 1.. 0/7 in game 2.. that's 1/16 in just 2 games.. didn't see the game earlier but judging from the score and knowing Alas' game, I bet he hoisted 10 3's earlier.. so 1/26 is a possible stat for Alas in 3pt FG sa Finals.. Alas is a good player but I've never been impressed with big time scorers from the NCAA especially in the recent years.. parang yun lang kasi alam nila..

looks like the Alas era in Letran is over.. Louie is leaving and Kevin is not sure he's coming back for his final year.. San Beda na naman 'to next year..

that would be very sad for Letran if Louie leaves for sure. I may not like the guy but he is definitely a good coach. As for Kevin, he needs to improve his game. A lot. He could use his last year to improve and fix the other facets of his game.

As I understand, the Semerad brothers are coming back yata sa Team A ng San Beda next season. Malakas pa din SBC next season. Eh kung di lang kinatay ni Jimbo Aquino yung SBC, 7-peat na sana. hahaha
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: ArtMusic on Oct 27, 2012 at 02:25 AM
^^ Sayang nga yung isang championship di sana 7 peat na.  Hirap kayang tibagin nun.

Anyway, the Red Lions literally massacred Letran. No Mercy Indeed.  Ngayon wala na silang excuse bakit sila natalo.    Sabi nung isang tiga Letran... pinaasa lang daw natin sila nung game 2.

Ito pa... the first and last cheer of Letran during the game was when the announcer called their first 5.

Victory Party Later!!!!

ANIMO!!!!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 27, 2012 at 08:21 AM
I guess we are currently living in the time of the (MVP) dynasties. ;D

I wonder if the next season will be different?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mickmads on Oct 27, 2012 at 08:46 AM
Next season di na champion ang ADMU :p

UP and FEU na si MVP so if manalo FEU the trend continues (for UAAP)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 27, 2012 at 09:27 AM
Really FEU? Di ba it's owned by Montinola's.. BPI's president..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: the_w0rks on Oct 27, 2012 at 01:32 PM
^^ Sayang nga yung isang championship di sana 7 peat na.  Hirap kayang tibagin nun.

Anyway, the Red Lions literally massacred Letran. No Mercy Indeed.  Ngayon wala na silang excuse bakit sila natalo.    Sabi nung isang tiga Letran... pinaasa lang daw natin sila nung game 2.

Ito pa... the first and last cheer of Letran during the game was when the announcer called their first 5.

Victory Party Later!!!!

ANIMO!!!!


haha

natawa ako sa literally massacred comment mo bro. naimagine ko kasi na may massacre na literal nangyari. bloody floor, dead bodies, etc, etc. :))
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: oweidah on Oct 27, 2012 at 04:42 PM
daisy ocho 2013? congrats!!!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Oct 27, 2012 at 04:48 PM
Really FEU? Di ba it's owned by Montinola's.. BPI's president..

MVP's dad is an alumnus of FEU but yes, it is owned by the Montinola's.

Next season di na champion ang ADMU :p

UP and FEU na si MVP so if manalo FEU the trend continues (for UAAP)

Easy for others to discount Ateneo out since they would lose a lot of firepower with the departure of Nico Salva, Greg Slaughter, Oping Sumalinog, Justin Chua, and Tonino Gonzaga. More importantly, the loss of Mr. 100% Coach Norman Black and MVP is a big blow to the team and the other sports program of Ateneo.

But we'll see. Hopefully the team can hold its own just like in 2010 when it was touted to be FEU's year and Ateneo was the underdog. ANIMo! Seek the sixth.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: the_w0rks on Oct 27, 2012 at 05:25 PM
Easy for others to discount Ateneo out since they would lose a lot of firepower with the departure of Nico Salva, Greg Slaughter, Oping Sumalinog, Justin Chua, and Tonino Gonzaga. More importantly, the loss of Mr. 100% Coach Norman Black and MVP is a big blow to the team and the other sports program of Ateneo.

But we'll see. Hopefully the team can hold its own just like in 2010 when it was touted to be FEU's year and Ateneo was the underdog. ANIMo! Seek the sixth.

curiouser and curiouser. An Atenean who chants Animo. I've only heard that from Ateneo Law friends who were San Beda undergrads or vice versa. hahaha

Normally, it's just One Big Fight! haha
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mickmads on Oct 27, 2012 at 05:36 PM
Ateneo lang ang walang black player sa starting lineup next season...without slaughter and chua in the middle, malabo talaga. Lahat ng high potential players ng ateneo maliliit (newsome, murphy, etc)

Sa uaap parating may magaling na big man ang nag chachampion eh...hirap sa ateneo next season ang nipis ng front court. Kung wala silang tinatagong big man, ang starting front court next year baka erram and porter. Di ko nga sure kung si erram maglalaro next year. Para sa akin malaking achievement na ang maka final four ang ateneo next year (mvp na dapat si kiefer talaga kapag nangyari yun)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mickmads on Oct 27, 2012 at 05:39 PM
Feu-mvp tie-up:
http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/feu-mvp-tie-up-eyed-flores-to-stay-on-as-tams-chief-scout
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Oct 27, 2012 at 06:12 PM
Easy for others to discount Ateneo out since they would lose a lot of firepower with the departure of Nico Salva, Greg Slaughter, Oping Sumalinog, Justin Chua, and Tonino Gonzaga. More importantly, the loss of Mr. 100% Coach Norman Black and MVP is a big blow to the team and the other sports program of Ateneo.

But we'll see. Hopefully the team can hold its own just like in 2010 when it was touted to be FEU's year and Ateneo was the underdog. ANIMo! Seek the sixth.
curiouser and curiouser. An Atenean who chants Animo. I've only heard that from Ateneo Law friends who were San Beda undergrads or vice versa. hahaha

Normally, it's just One Big Fight! haha

It's more pun in PinoyDVD! ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: the_w0rks on Oct 27, 2012 at 06:31 PM
curiouser and curiouser. An Atenean who chants Animo. I've only heard that from Ateneo Law friends who were San Beda undergrads or vice versa. hahaha

Normally, it's just One Big Fight! haha


It's more pun in PinoyDVD! ;D

nice catch. didn't notice that! haha
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Oct 27, 2012 at 07:03 PM
Ateneo lang ang walang black player sa starting lineup next season...without slaughter and chua in the middle, malabo talaga. Lahat ng high potential players ng ateneo maliliit (newsome, murphy, etc)

Sa uaap parating may magaling na big man ang nag chachampion eh...hirap sa ateneo next season ang nipis ng front court. Kung wala silang tinatagong big man, ang starting front court next year baka erram and porter. Di ko nga sure kung si erram maglalaro next year. Para sa akin malaking achievement na ang maka final four ang ateneo next year (mvp na dapat si kiefer talaga kapag nangyari yun)

Ateneo did it in 2010. They only had Chua, Golla and Escueta as their frontline. They were a fast break team. Scoring in transition and scored off defensive rebounds. As long as kiefer, and ryan are there with serviceable big men able to box out, do screens, rebound then a final four appearance is not far-fetched. I believe. ANIMo.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: ArtMusic on Oct 27, 2012 at 07:20 PM
haha

natawa ako sa literally massacred comment mo bro. naimagine ko kasi na may massacre na literal nangyari. bloody floor, dead bodies, etc, etc. :))

Literally massacred yung score....  Friday Bloody Friday!!!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Hitman on Oct 27, 2012 at 07:41 PM
Si ryan buenafe ba hindi pa gagraduate? Ao ba course niya? Law? Parang ang tagal na niya!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 27, 2012 at 08:23 PM
Afaik, you can play up to 5 years, batchmate nya si jason webb, kaya lng he was suspended for 1 year, for hitting dela cruz..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 27, 2012 at 08:39 PM
Louie Alas called it quits with Letran and kevin Alas may join Gilas training pool so San Beda will be unchallenged in building their dynasty.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 27, 2012 at 09:02 PM
Afaik, you can play up to 5 years, batchmate nya si jason webb, kaya lng he was suspended for 1 year, for hitting dela cruz..

I think you mean Joshua Webb.. up to 20 years kung si Jason Webb batchmate niya.. ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mickmads on Oct 27, 2012 at 09:09 PM
Ateneo did it in 2010. They only had Chua, Golla and Escueta as their frontline. They were a fast break team. Scoring in transition and scored off defensive rebounds. As long as kiefer, and ryan are there with serviceable big men able to box out, do screens, rebound then a final four appearance is not far-fetched. I believe. ANIMo.

Pwede. But chua could have started for almost every other team. Naaalala ko yung 2010 yan yung na-buenafe yung feu sa finals diba? :)) sana ganun ulit siya next year para bumanat ang admu haha
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Oct 27, 2012 at 09:10 PM
Ateneo did it in 2010. They only had Chua, Golla and Escueta as their frontline. They were a fast break team. Scoring in transition and scored off defensive rebounds. As long as kiefer, and ryan are there with serviceable big men able to box out, do screens, rebound then a final four appearance is not far-fetched. I believe. ANIMo.

They need a coach the players would respond to and respect. Perhaps MVP's pull-out is a blessing in disguise. Ateneo can now pick the right coach to replace Norman Black, definitely not Perasol!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 28, 2012 at 04:20 AM
I would like to see Sabdy A. to coach the Blie Eagles.

And btw, animo is a basque term. It was brought here by friars. What I find "curiouser" is DLSU using it as the organization does not have any basque roots in the Philippines.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 28, 2012 at 08:56 AM
They need a coach the players would respond to and respect. Perhaps MVP's pull-out is a blessing in disguise. Ateneo can now pick the right coach to replace Norman Black, definitely not Perasol!

Frankie Lim perhaps.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: frootloops on Oct 28, 2012 at 03:53 PM
Game 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8AGa73gVKM&list=UUtO3DbpgYeBbiEMSG5Y52lg&index=1&feature=plpp_video
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Oct 28, 2012 at 04:24 PM
Game 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8AGa73gVKM&list=UUtO3DbpgYeBbiEMSG5Y52lg&index=1&feature=plpp_video

Mukhang mag cha champion din ang San Beda sa replay ah!! Hahahaha...
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Oct 28, 2012 at 07:55 PM
I would like to see Sabdy A. to coach the Blie Eagles.

And btw, animo is a basque term. It was brought here by friars. What I find "curiouser" is DLSU using it as the organization does not have any basque roots in the Philippines.

I remember one of my philo lessons defining the word Animo as latin for Spirit.

I would like coach Sandy to be the head coach problem is he's also part of the coaching staff at TNT along with coach jamike, etc.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: krets pulpol on Nov 07, 2012 at 10:13 AM
Compton eyed as next Ateneo coach

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/11/07/12/compton-eyed-next-ateneo-coach
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Nov 07, 2012 at 10:23 AM
Compton eyed as next Ateneo coach

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/11/07/12/compton-eyed-next-ateneo-coach


"Alex is seriously being considered," said Palou, adding that the sweet-shooting guard who also had stints as assistant coach in the PBA has already been interviewed for the job.

But Palou said Compton wants to make sure that he doesn't step on anyone's toes.

"What he said was he wants to make sure the picture is clear if and when he comes in," said Palou, who also mentioned the names of Sandy Arespacochaga and Jamike Jamarin as candidates.

I'm fine with Coach Jamike, Coach Sandy and Alex Compton. But i'd prefer the first two as they know the Ateneo system pretty well. If Alex Compton comes on, I hope he retains the coaching staff and maybe add Kirk Long in the coaching staff.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 07, 2012 at 11:06 AM
I like Sandy ...... this old classmate of mine has served his time and is the logical choice.

However, he seems very reluctant ...... Palou even mentions it.

The pressures of continuing the winning program might be too big for him - moreso, that MVP has left campus, taking with him the P25M/year allotment for the ADMU basketball program.

Jebus ..... P25M/year ..... this is almost equivalent to the annual salary cap for an entire PBA team !!!   O0
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Nov 09, 2012 at 10:56 PM
Letran still hopeful Coach Alas will stay for another year and give the title run another try.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: puffalan84 on Nov 09, 2012 at 11:22 PM
Letran still hopeful Coach Alas will stay for another year and give the title run another try.
I hope.. 1 more try.. :)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: the_w0rks on Nov 12, 2012 at 09:36 AM
"Alex is seriously being considered," said Palou, adding that the sweet-shooting guard who also had stints as assistant coach in the PBA has already been interviewed for the job.

But Palou said Compton wants to make sure that he doesn't step on anyone's toes.

"What he said was he wants to make sure the picture is clear if and when he comes in," said Palou, who also mentioned the names of Sandy Arespacochaga and Jamike Jamarin as candidates.

I'm fine with Coach Jamike, Coach Sandy and Alex Compton. But i'd prefer the first two as they know the Ateneo system pretty well. If Alex Compton comes on, I hope he retains the coaching staff and maybe add Kirk Long in the coaching staff.

After Black, white naman daw. haha
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Nov 12, 2012 at 12:52 PM
May ongoing PCCL.  You can post your comments too ;D 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Nov 24, 2012 at 02:31 PM
May ongoing PCCL.  You can post your comments too ;D 

anyone watch that San Beda-SWU game? kawawa yung point guard ng SWU after he had a mental lapse that cost them a chance to win.. binatukan ng coach.. and it's the 2nd time he did that according to the player..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuT9IKutwzQ (around the 00:57 mark)..

by the way, UST is in the Finals waiting for either Ateneo or San Beda..

oh, and Perasol is once again being considered for the Ateneo coaching job daw..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 24, 2012 at 04:58 PM
That SWU coach should be fired ASAP ...... no place in sports for such an act.

Berating or calling-out players is one thing ....... openly hitting your player/s is a big no-no.

That coach should be fired ....... or better yet, demote him to a utility crew - teach him some humility.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: the_w0rks on Nov 24, 2012 at 05:12 PM
That SWU coach should be fired ASAP ...... no place in sports for such an act.

Berating or calling-out players is one thing ....... openly hitting your player/s is a big no-no.

That coach should be fired ....... or better yet, demote him to a utility crew - teach him some humility.


nyahaha kawawang bata. tinulak tapos binatukan. :D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Nov 24, 2012 at 05:32 PM
That SWU coach should be fired ASAP ...... no place in sports for such an act.

Berating or calling-out players is one thing ....... openly hitting your player/s is a big no-no.

That coach should be fired ....... or better yet, demote him to a utility crew - teach him some humility.


good luck with that.. Alcoseba is a powerful man in Cebu.. matagal ng konsehal yan at champion coach dun kaya walang gagalaw diyan.. sanay na mga taga-Cebu sa ganyang attitude ni Alcoseba kaya hinahayaan na lang nila.. wala rin namang ngipin yung mga governing sports bodies dito sa atin eh.. yung BCAP gumagalaw lang pag may foreign coach na balak mag-coach sa PBA..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Oloap on Nov 24, 2012 at 06:04 PM
good luck with that.. Alcoseba is a powerful man in Cebu.. matagal ng konsehal yan at champion coach dun kaya walang gagalaw diyan.. sanay na mga taga-Cebu sa ganyang attitude ni Alcoseba kaya hinahayaan na lang nila.. wala rin namang ngipin yung mga governing sports bodies dito sa atin eh.. yung BCAP gumagalaw lang pag may foreign coach na balak mag-coach sa PBA..

why is that so?

kung ang mga guro na nananakit ng estudyante pinag-iinitan ng media, bakit hindi magawa kay coach alcoseba?
he may be a big shot, but his attitude is out of place.


Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Nov 24, 2012 at 08:30 PM
why is that so?

kung ang mga guro na nananakit ng estudyante pinag-iinitan ng media, bakit hindi magawa kay coach alcoseba?
he may be a big shot, but his attitude is out of place.

it's a fairly small tournament so there really isn't much media coverage.. yung mga nakapanood lang talaga nakapansin.. yung mga news outlets naman dito sa Pilipinas, pinapansin lang ang isang bagay kung sa tingin nila tataas ratings nila.. they'll do one story and that's it.. the game aired on ABS and they didn't even do a story on it..

and I doubt the school would sanction him as well.. he just led his team to a championship sa Cebu.. and then there's no governing body to sanction him..

the kid really has no avenue to file a complaint kaya nauulit..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Nov 24, 2012 at 08:58 PM
it's a fairly small tournament so there really isn't much media coverage.. yung mga nakapanood lang talaga nakapansin.. yung mga news outlets naman dito sa Pilipinas, pinapansin lang ang isang bagay kung sa tingin nila tataas ratings nila.. they'll do one story and that's it.. the game aired on ABS and they didn't even do a story on it..

and I doubt the school would sanction him as well.. he just led his team to a championship sa Cebu.. and then there's no governing body to sanction him..

the kid really has no avenue to file a complaint kaya nauulit..

but there is a law against child abuse, that is, if the point guard is still a minor.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Nov 25, 2012 at 01:54 PM
but there is a law against child abuse, that is, if the point guard is still a minor.

he's a 3rd year college student so I think he's no longer a minor..

anyway, kaya pala in the hunt na naman si Perasol for the Ateneo job..

http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/mvp-ateneo-set-to-announce-reconciliation
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: krets pulpol on Nov 26, 2012 at 12:44 PM
MVP renews ties with Ateneo; Perasol new coach

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/11/26/12/perasol-tabbed-new-ateneo-head-coach

Bati na ulit sila yiheee  >:D nung weekend ko pa nabasa sa Inquirer.

Tuloy ang ligaya  ;)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 26, 2012 at 01:14 PM
MVP renews ties with Ateneo; Perasol new coach

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/11/26/12/perasol-tabbed-new-ateneo-head-coach

Bati na ulit sila yiheee  >:D nung weekend ko pa nabasa sa Inquirer.

Tuloy ang ligaya  ;)

Tuloy ang ligaya indeed ....... that 25M/year from MVP makes it much, much easier to run that basketball program.

Like I said, 25M/year goes a long way for a collegiate basketball program ...... note that 25M is basically the same amount (annual salary cap) one needs to run a PBA team.   ;)

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: leomarley on Nov 26, 2012 at 02:45 PM
so does this mean na coach na uli si Norman Black?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: krets pulpol on Nov 26, 2012 at 03:04 PM
Nope, Black is done so he's coaching Talk N Text now. Or it depends if things don't go well with their plans. Next year pa naman eh.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: onedown on Nov 26, 2012 at 04:59 PM
if i remember correctly, black has expressed his desire to step down as ateneo coach after season 74. he was however convinced to stay one more year. without slaugher and salva, i don't think black would be keen on taking the job again, if offered.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 27, 2012 at 08:35 PM
sino nanalo sa 1st game ng Ateneo at UST kanina?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Nov 27, 2012 at 08:36 PM
sino nanalo sa 1st game ng Ateneo at UST kanina?

UST
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Verbl Kint on Nov 28, 2012 at 09:43 AM
The team is not the same without Black.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Nov 28, 2012 at 04:46 PM
The team is not the same without Black.

Players respond well to Black. They know their roles. The only player I've seen Black really get exasperated with is Buenafe. ;D. And this happened only when Buenafe would just dribble the ball at the 3-point area, waste the time and then shoot the ball and miss.  :D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Nov 29, 2012 at 05:58 PM
Ateneo ties the PCCL finals after a 70-69 win in Game 2 just now.

I don't get why the referees didn't call a shot clock violation on UST on that possession. If the ball doesn't hit the ring and there is no clear transfer of possession, it is a shot clock violation. Kahit na-tap yun to Gonzaga, the tap isn't considered a clear possession. The transfer of possession happened when Gonzaga got the ball and not during the tap. Naka-breakaway tuloy si Kiefer. Still a good game, though. UST really matches well with Ateneo. But this time around, lamang na UST sa coaching.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 29, 2012 at 06:59 PM
Ateneo ties the PCCL finals after a 70-69 win in Game 2 just now.

I don't get why the referees didn't call a shot clock violation on UST on that possession. If the ball doesn't hit the ring and there is no clear transfer of possession, it is a shot clock violation. Kahit na-tap yun to Gonzaga, the tap isn't considered a clear possession. The transfer of possession happened when Gonzaga got the ball and not during the tap. Naka-breakaway tuloy si Kiefer. Still a good game, though. UST really matches well with Ateneo. But this time around, lamang na UST sa coaching.

UST just lost the championship there. tsk tsk tsk
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: rukawakaide1721 on Nov 29, 2012 at 07:18 PM
Ravena stars anew for Ateneo, force Game 3 in PCCL  (http://www.philstar.com/breaking-news/2012/11/29/876609/ravena-stars-anew-ateneo-force-game-3-pccl)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Dec 07, 2012 at 05:32 PM
UST wins the PCCL Championship, 81-76. Ang init ng 3pt shooting nila. Muntikan nga lang dahil they played not to lose after leading by 11 with 3mins left.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 08, 2012 at 11:46 PM
UST wins the PCCL Championship, 81-76. Ang init ng 3pt shooting nila. Muntikan nga lang dahil they played not to lose after leading by 11 with 3mins left.

which championship has more weight, the PCCL or UAAP?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Dec 08, 2012 at 11:50 PM
which championship has more weight, the PCCL or UAAP?

UAAP. It's more competitive, has more games and teams take it more seriously.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Dec 09, 2012 at 05:31 AM
which championship has more weight, the PCCL or UAAP?

Easily, it's the UAAP ...... one of the most prestigious (pro or amateur) hoops crown in the land.

Ideally, the PCCL would have provided the toughest competition - since only top & seeded collegiate teams are invited ...... however, scheduling & many other factors prevent it from becoming a truly legitimate, all-collegiate crown.

Nevertheless, a great win for UST hoops ...... moreso for the graduating Fortuna & Afuang.

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 09, 2012 at 05:34 AM
Easily, it's the UAAP ...... one of the most prestigious (pro or amateur) hoops crown in the land.

Ideally, the PCCL would have provided the toughest competition - since only top & seeded collegiate teams are invited ...... however, scheduling & many other factors prevent it from becoming a truly legitimate, all-collegiate crown.

Nevertheless, a great win for UST hoops ...... moreso for the graduating Fortuna & Afuang.



reason i asked is that the PCCL supposedly has the best all over the Phil, with UST winning it, I was thinking it has more weight that the one they lost to Ateneo, in any case at least this has shown UST is not the same weak team anymore and is capable of winning it all next season, I sure hope so its been a long while.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Dec 09, 2012 at 07:08 AM
reason i asked is that the PCCL supposedly has the best all over the Phil, with UST winning it, I was thinking it has more weight that the one they lost to Ateneo, in any case at least this has shown UST is not the same weak team anymore and is capable of winning it all next season, I sure hope so its been a long while.

Same here ..... hope that UST retains the hunger from the last UAAP season & builds on this recent PCCL win - all for the grand prize of winning that UAAP crown again.

However, it would much harder ...... the graduation of main PG Fortuna figures to be a big loss for next year's campaign.

One thing that most (if not all) UAAP winners have in common ..... strong-willed PG's.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: frootloops on Dec 16, 2012 at 11:14 PM
Magsanoc steps down as San Beda coach


While bidding farewell to his players, Magsanoc also recommended team consultant Boyet Fernandez as the next head coach, a development that appeared to gain approval from Pangilinan.

“Since Coach Boyet is already with the team, kilala na niya ‘yung mga bata so and’un na rin continuity ng sistema,” the source related. “And MVP now considers Boyet as the top candidate. They will still look for other candidates though, but Boyet appears to have the support of the majority.”


http://ph.sports.yahoo.com/news/magsanoc-steps-down-as-san-beda-coach-115049642.html
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Dec 17, 2012 at 07:53 AM
Why did Magsanoc step down as SBC coach?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Dec 17, 2012 at 08:50 AM
Why did Magsanoc step down as SBC coach?

To spend more time with his family ..... totally believable reason, coming from a known stand-up guy like Magsanoc.

I agree that Boyet Fernandez is the best candidate as Magsanoc's replacement.

OT: Actually, Fernandez should've been the head-coach when MERALCO went back to the PBA ..... not the faker-coach Ryan Gregorio.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: wacksy1021 on Dec 17, 2012 at 10:17 AM
after leading the red lions to the championship... coach ronnie resigns? something fishy is going on here >:D... We'll I do hope MVP lets him take the cudgels of the struggling UP Maroons ang bring back the fighting monicker that has left the squad in the last decade and so...
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Dec 17, 2012 at 10:19 AM
Just heard there was some politics involved :o

Anyway, my personal choice for coach?  MUKESH ADVANI.  His style resembles that of Frankie Lim and he commands great respect from the players, having helped the team in terms of financials.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Dec 24, 2012 at 01:41 PM
Pido seems to be leaving UST. I knew it was just a matter of time but I'm still surprised at this, especially after what he's done the past year. They still have a solid team next season even with the departure of Fortuna and Abdul. He's good at getting the best out of his players. I guess the opportunity to coach a PBA team is too much to pass up. But sa Ginebra dapat siya pumunta. Bagay siya dun.

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/pido-jarencio-set-to-step-down-as-ust-coach-as-pba-head-coaching-job-beckons-v02
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Dec 24, 2012 at 05:07 PM
Pido Jarencio would make for a decent head-coach for BARAKO BULL, as he perfectly fits the "mold" of the team ...... more importantly for SMC, Jarencio remains within their umbrella in the PBA.

Note: BARAKO BULL is only fronted by Bert Lina & Tony Chua ..... it's secretly-owned & openly-marketed by SMC - hence the countless number of horrendous lopsided trades between Lina teams and SMC teams.

Now, for Jarencio's replacement ...... why not stick to the grain and give Bal David a formal interview for the job.

David has coached in the amateurs, albeit short stint ..... he also belongs to the Jaworski-school of NSD play.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Dec 24, 2012 at 05:15 PM
after leading the red lions to the championship... coach ronnie resigns? something fishy is going on here >:D... We'll I do hope MVP lets him take the cudgels of the struggling UP Maroons ang bring back the fighting monicker that has left the squad in the last decade and so...

Delikadesa cguro. He knew he was a replacement coach after Frankie Lim was suspended  and he doesnt want to step into Lim for good so Lim can eventually come back to coach the Lions once his suspension is lifted.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: mattia on Dec 24, 2012 at 05:57 PM
It's official - the new coach of San Beda is Boyet Fernandez.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: krets pulpol on Dec 26, 2012 at 05:39 PM
Jarencio to leave UST for PBA: report

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/12/26/12/jarencio-leave-ust-pba-report

Sayang naman, they will be the biggest contender in the coming UAAP season. I guess it's too early kahit nasa PBA pa sya in the early months of 2013.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Dec 26, 2012 at 10:32 PM
Jarencio to leave UST for PBA: report

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/12/26/12/jarencio-leave-ust-pba-report

Sayang naman, they will be the biggest contender in the coming UAAP season. I guess it's too early kahit nasa PBA pa sya in the early months of 2013.

It's not to early, it's the best time to leave. It gives UST the time to pick a replacement. It gives the new coach the time to introduce to the team whatever ideas he may have. And it gives the players the time to adjust to the new coach and his system. Mahirap naman kung kelan magsisimula na ang UAAP saka sila mag-aadjust pa.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: krets pulpol on Dec 27, 2012 at 09:04 PM
I meant too early to tell if it's a good thing he leaves now for PBA. Makakailang conference pa before he decides if PBA is for him or not. Tapos balik na lang sa UAAP pag di para sa kanya.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: krets pulpol on Jan 05, 2013 at 02:06 AM
'Imports in UAAP, NCAA bad for PH basketball'

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/01/04/13/imports-uaap-ncaa-bad-ph-basketball

I hope the UAAP and NCAA board listens.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Jan 05, 2013 at 07:33 AM
Kirk Long is certainly an exception since he resides and grew up in the Phil for long. I hope to see him play for a Pangilinan PBA team in the near future.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jan 05, 2013 at 02:57 PM
So Jarencio stays put at UST after Barako Bull started pursuing Toroman. Interesting how his mindset is going to be. They're definitely one of the better teams this coming season and a sort of snub by the PBA might give him more motivation to win it all for UST.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Jan 05, 2013 at 03:02 PM
Will a foreign coach in Toroman be allowed to coach in the PBA?
Db bawal un? Pwed lng bilang consultants ang foreigners.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jan 05, 2013 at 03:03 PM
Will a foreign coach in Toroman be allowed to coach in the PBA?
Db bawal un? Pwed lng bilang consultants ang foreigners.

usually, may nagrereklamo lang kapag malakas na team yung hahawakan ng coach. given that it's Barako, baka palampasin lang ng inutil na BCAP yan.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Jan 05, 2013 at 06:58 PM
usually, may nagrereklamo lang kapag malakas na team yung hahawakan ng coach. given that it's Barako, baka palampasin lang ng inutil na BCAP yan.

So they wont be consistent in their stand against foreign coaches specially in basketball.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jan 05, 2013 at 08:09 PM
So they wont be consistent in their stand against foreign coaches specially in basketball.

They will oppose it but they won't be as aggressive as they were when Ron Jacobs handled San Miguel.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Jan 05, 2013 at 10:52 PM
The BCAP has long been "inactive" in the local basketball landscape ...... nothing much left to fight for actually:

** Pinoy basketball has greatly contracted the past years - no more MBA, no more Liga, no more PBL, etc ...... The PBA (and it's D-League) is all that remains; and it's a league with only 4 legitimate owners.

Danding's PETRON, SMC & BGK (plus unofficial teams BARAKO, AIR21 & GLOBAL) ...... MVP's TnT & MERALCO ..... Uytengsu's ALASKA ..... Que/Yu's ROS.

** The PBA is being run by no less than a handpicked, right-hand man of Danding ..... no way in hell that Comm. Cheato Salud will bite the hand that feeds him.

** Known BCAP stalwarts are all pre-occupied.

Chito Narvasa is in private finance (very likely that he's in cahoots with MVP and/or Danding-controlled companies) ...... he let Toroman slide as GILAS coach a few years ago; no reason why he'll prevent Toroman from taking a lesser BARAKO job.

Yeng Guiao is running a successful program with ROS (knowing Guiao's attitude, he'll just say F*CK IT; Extra-rice Inc. will run over these foreign-coached teams anyday of the week) ...... Alfrancis Chua is employed by no less than Danding (the same one who secretly owns BARAKO).


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It's all a show ...... Noli Eala is just trying to ensure that Toroman "stays" within the SMC umbrella, hence the BARAKO proposal.

I'd have no big issues should Toroman get an official PBA head-coaching job ..... IMO he has earned that right via his GILAS stint.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jan 07, 2013 at 01:53 AM
The Ateneo volleybelles have now won 6 straight and is still undefeated. Alyssa Valdez is wreaking havoc.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Jan 07, 2013 at 06:48 PM
Now this recent pic speaks volumes ...... re: Top Bacolod HS player Montalbo to play for DLSU seniors next UAAP season.

(http://i49.tinypic.com/2viqszn.jpg)

Like I said, once a known shark like Danding Cojuaangco retook "sponsorship" of DLSU more than a year ago ..... expect the blue-chip recruits to come down to Taft (like they did more than a decade back).

Jeron Teng was nabbed a year ago ...... no coincidence that shortly afterwards, his father Alvin Teng was named as coaching staff member of Danding's ABL team.

Only in the country, where known HS prospects are openly courted by business-moguls (known cronies no less) and openly given perks ...... and not a protest or even a whiff of investigation in sight.

If such a picture/scenario happened in the US NCAA Hoops (or any other collegiate sport) ..... a firestorm with the sporting media would have certainly occurred ...... investigations are immediately started.


It's indeed more fun in the Philippines ...... even a university president publicly pleads for reconciliation with another business-mogul - all in the name of P25M/year for their basketball program (!)

 O0
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jan 07, 2013 at 09:11 PM
For the past two years Kib Montalbo has been playing and are friends with Ateneo players. It was all a formality that he would enter the school on the hill in Katipunan.... until the bossing aggressively recruited him and his parents. Good Luck Kib! Hopefully, he gets playing time in the Taft Guard Agency!

DLSU is also aggressively pursuing the african player in Cebu who's younger and way better than Abdul. 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Jan 08, 2013 at 07:18 AM
Ok lng naman magrecruit ng mga blue chip players and DLSU provided they are home grown talents from the provinces and expose them into the BIG leagues.
What i'm really against are the recruitments of imports to play in the collegiate leagues w/c are suppose to be the training grounds for home grown players before they represent the Philippines in international competitions and then turn Pro.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Jan 08, 2013 at 09:25 AM
Ok lng naman magrecruit ng mga blue chip players and DLSU provided they are home grown talents from the provinces and expose them into the BIG leagues.
What i'm really against are the recruitments of imports to play in the collegiate leagues w/c are suppose to be the training grounds for home grown players before they represent the Philippines in international competitions and then turn Pro.

Player recruitment from the provinces has been the norm since probably the early 70's ...... what is completely unacceptable & unethical are businessmen openly courting players and openly giving out perks when they come on board.

In the USA, such people (Danding, MVP, etc) are called Boosters and/or Friends of the Program ..... and what they practice is completely ILLEGAL ..... hence sanctions on erring schools will be meted out.

Over here, they are revered as heroes and praised by the media.   O0

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I completely agree about the recruitment of "imports" playing in the collegiate leagues ........ I have long ranted against this practice in the earlier UAAP/NCAA threads.

Basketball is one sport in which the country, absolutely doesn't lack for collegiate-level talent ....... there are thousands of Filipinos just waiting to be discovered and molded for the leagues here in Manila.

It's clear that these imports come here, more to play than to study ...... consequently, other deserving players are displaced.

Like I've said before, what SBC has done (systematized and steady recruitment of imports) years ago will set a very bad precedent ..... look at the state of collegiate basketball now - one cannot count the number of imports playing.
 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: frootloops on Jan 08, 2013 at 12:44 PM
True, i was suppose to comment on the recent San Beda coaching change wherein it was MVP's nod which was recognized and never did we see the SBC's comment. Advani would be best since he is also a bedan, same as frankie and ronnie.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Jan 08, 2013 at 04:13 PM
Player recruitment from the provinces has been the norm since probably the early 70's ...... what is completely unacceptable & unethical are businessmen openly courting players and openly giving out perks when they come on board.

In the USA, such people (Danding, MVP, etc) are called Boosters and/or Friends of the Program ..... and what they practice is completely ILLEGAL ..... hence sanctions on erring schools will be meted out.

Over here, they are revered as heroes and praised by the media.   O0

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I completely agree about the recruitment of "imports" playing in the collegiate leagues ........ I have long ranted against this practice in the earlier UAAP/NCAA threads.

Basketball is one sport in which the country, absolutely doesn't lack for collegiate-level talent ....... there are thousands of Filipinos just waiting to be discovered and molded for the leagues here in Manila.

It's clear that these imports come here, more to play than to study ...... consequently, other deserving players are displaced.

Like I've said before, what SBC has done (systematized and steady recruitment of imports) years ago will set a very bad precedent ..... look at the state of collegiate basketball now - one cannot count the number of imports playing.
 

For me bastat home grown talents. Everyone should be entitled to lure them to play for their respective schools. Sana players na yan kung san nya gusto maglaro. These businessmen are also gambling on these raw talents. Though they can make a team perform much better, it's still uncertain if they can excel in the end. It's also far better than recruiting Fil-Ams to play for collegiate teams.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: krets pulpol on Jan 08, 2013 at 04:51 PM
Di nila kailangan yan, they need bigger men and forwards.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Wiggum on Mar 07, 2013 at 10:17 PM
Is the new residency rule from the UAAP applicable also to foreigners who transfer schools?

http://sports.inquirer.net/89865/new-uaap-rule-affects-2-prized-rookies (http://sports.inquirer.net/89865/new-uaap-rule-affects-2-prized-rookies)

I thought it applied only to HS recruits, and not to laterals.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Mar 07, 2013 at 10:29 PM
Is the new residency rule from the UAAP applicable also to foreigners who transfer schools?

http://sports.inquirer.net/89865/new-uaap-rule-affects-2-prized-rookies (http://sports.inquirer.net/89865/new-uaap-rule-affects-2-prized-rookies)

I thought it applied only to HS recruits, and not to laterals.


It would affect also the foreigners and all college transferee's also. It's actually quite funny as you can see from all the interviews and articles they do not have any guidelines / IRR on this rule. Basically, the idea is to curtail movement of a UAAP hs prospect to another UAAP school but they also want to remove the "mercenary" players hence they want college transferees and foreigners from other colleges (even non-uaap schools) to sit out two years. All in the guise of parity and protecting the league. this was railroaded and now some schools who voted yes to it are regretting the decision already.

as you can see in the article below, there are a lot of loopholes / kinks. Why would the board pass this rule and to be effected immediately when they themselves are still in the dark on the impact of this to the whole league?

Pingoy facing tough choice as UAAP board urged to review implementing guidelines of new rule
By Reuben Terrado
March 06, 2013, 01:15 pm


A MEMBER of the UAAP amendments committee has urged his colleagues to carefully look into the implementing guidelines of the new rule requiring a two-year residency for high school graduates transferring to another UAAP school amid a backlash from both players and fans.

La Salle board representative Henry Atayde confirmed that the new residency period for high school transferees, which on the amendments committee's suggestion was raised from one to two years, has already been agreed upon “in principle” by the board.

However, Atayde admitted there are several kinks in the new rule that still need to be ironed out.

“May proseso ‘yan. Inapprove na ‘yan ng board pero masyado pang maraming concerns and loopholes na hindi napag-uusapan,” Atayde said to Spin.ph.

“As a member [sic - elvis] of the UAAP board and the amendments committee, we still have to draft different guidelines and IRR because it has a lot of different intricacies,” Atayde added.

According to insiders, the board voted 5-2 on Tuesday to pass the new rule, with Ateneo and University of the Philippines the only dissenters.

The new rule is expected to alter the career plans of several high school prospects in the UAAP like Jerie Pingoy, who was expected to join Ateneo next season after completing his high school studies at Far Eastern University.

But with the new rule in place, Pingoy is faced with a tough choice.

If he chooses to transfer to Ateneo, Pingoy will only be eligible to play in the UAAP in 2015. But if the Cebuano hotshot and two-time UAAP juniors MVP opts to remain with FEU, he can play in the league next season.

Still, Ateneo remains confident Pingoy will push through with his plan to move to Katipunan, even if it means sitting out for the next two seasons, a top sports official of the school said.

Atayde said the amendments committee is actually batting for an across-the-board two-year residency for all transferees, including those already in college and from other countries.

Under present rules, a college transferee needs to sit out for two years unless he gets a clearance from his previous school. If the athlete gets a clearance, only a one-year residency period is required.

“Some schools, whether you like it or not, two years talaga. Pero ‘yung ibang eskwela, one year. Nagiging subjective tuloy ‘yung pag-rerelease ng athlete,” Atayde explained.

News of the new rule, which Spin.ph broke on Tuesday, has triggered a debate on social networking sites, with players like Ateneo star Kiefer Ravena leading the outcry.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Mar 07, 2013 at 10:31 PM
UP got the very gist of the impact of the rule and it would actually come bite everybody in the ass. It actually curtails the freedom of choice. Mr. Montinola pushed for this to protect his "investments" - he actually has a lot of stupid rules implemented in the UAAP. Soc Rivera Rule, Arwind Santos rule, etc. etc.

http://ph.sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaa...083335508.html

New UAAP rule is 'final'; Ateneo, UP voted against it
By Chris Lagunzad | Yahoo! PH Sports

The UAAP Board approved Monday the amendments on eligibility rules concerning UAAP high school players who will transfer to another member school to play in the seniors’ ranks.

Under the revised eligibility rule, high school players who will transfer and bring their act to another UAAP-affiliated school will have to undergo a two-year residency. Currently, there is a one-year residency which can be waived if the student's original school releases him unconditionally. The new rule no longer allows waiving of the residency period.

Sought by Yahoo! Philippines Wednesday afternoon, National University’s Junel Baculi, a member of the league’s amendments committee, shared the reasons behind the intriguing development.

“Pinarehas na namin ‘yung residency ng mga high school players transferring to another UAAP school sa mga college players na lumilipat rin sa ibang member schools. Bale, tag two-year residency na ang ganyang case,” he said.

Baculi, who also serves as NU’s athletic director, disclosed that the Board approved the recommendation by virtue of a 5-2 count.

Among those who voted ‘Yes’ were Far Eastern University, University of Santo Tomas, Adamson University, University of the East and La Salle while Ateneo and University of the Philippines were against.

NU, as this season’s host, abstained from voting, according to Baculi.

Baculi stated that the rule “will be effective immediately for next season and it’s already final.”

Blue Eagles up in arms

Ateneo’s athletic director Ricky Palou, meanwhile, sounded regretful with the new policy, saying: “Ateneo and UP went against the rule but, unfortunately, we were outvoted.”

Armed with one of the most aggressive recruitment programs in the country owing to their wealthy benefactors, Ateneo has no other choice but to respect the decision, with a heavy heart.

“Kawawa ang mga bata (na gustong maglaro sa Ateneo). But what can I do? We just have to respect the decision of the Board and move on,” said Palou.

Palou added the Blue Eagles’ programs will not endure most of the impact, saying: “Hindi naman lahat ng (high school) recruits namin galing sa UAAP. Most of them are coming from the provinces and other leagues. But occasionally, there are some players (from co-UAAP school) who want to play for us. Overall, I don’t think it will have a big impact on our recruitment program,” he related.

Among those expected to be hit hardest with the modified rule is heady playmaker Jerie Pingoy, a two-time UAAP juniors MVP who helped the FEU Baby Tamaraws snap a 25-year title drought this season. FEU and Ateneo are reportedly in a tug-of-war for the services of Pingoy.

“He has to abide with the rule. If he decides to play with us, he’ll be playing on 2015,” shared Palou.

‘It’s not a rule, but a punishment’

As far as Ronnie Dizer, the dean of the UP College of Human Kinetics and also a member of the UAAP Board is concerned, the modified rule is more of a penalty imposed on the league’s high school players.

“It’s not a rule, it’s more of punishing them,” Dizer stated to Yahoo! Philippines in a phone interview. “Personally, I opposed the amendments because that will affect majority of the sports not only basketball.

“I believe it estranges the right of the students from transferring to a school that offers better quality of education. Ang argument kasi namin ng Ateneo, UAAP takes pride to maintain high quality education of the student- athletes. The basic principles why the league was founded were education, amateurism, and to develop a league that will be a source of national players. ‘Yung new policy, it goes against the very foundation kaya nagkaro’n ng UAAP. Nagde-deviate sa philosophy and mission ng liga,” he pointed out.

Dizer also added high school players are not indebted to their mother schools since they have “donned their colors and gamely represented them in different tournaments.”

“‘Yung mga high school players, bayad na sila sa inyo by representing your school. Since they’re looking for a better quality of education, sana ibigay ‘yun ng kanilang school. That’s one of their human rights. They’re students first before athletes. Ibigay natin ‘yung karapatan sa anak at sa kanilang magulang. Kaso ang mangyayari, parang mapaparusahan pa sila kahit nakapag-serve na sila sa school,” Dizer added.

And what repercussions this modified rule may bring?

“We’ll be pushing athletes away. Dahil sa bagong policy, pupunta na lang sila sa ibang liga like NCAA. As a whole, the rule is more of a disadvantage for the league. Nawawala ‘yung competitive balance and democratic atmosphere,” noted Dizer.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Wiggum on Mar 07, 2013 at 11:18 PM
^ Thanks for the reply, sir. Yeah, have to agree with what the UP CHK Dean said. These kids are students first, and not athletes. They also have the right to choose which school to go to for a college degree. 2 years to sit out is also too much. If the UAAP wants to discourage "piracy", there are other ways to do it.

It's also pretty obvious that this rule is targeting schools like ADMU and DLSU only, so I find it strange that DLSU voted for it. Anyway, I'm sure this won't be the last time we'll read about this issue.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Mar 07, 2013 at 11:37 PM
^Lately kasi, DLSU isn't getting players that are graduates of other UAAP member schools.. so the rule won't affect them.. their recent recruits are from the provinces like that kid Kib Montalbo from Bacolod and the Cameroonian center from Southwestern in Cebu.. although Ben Mbala also has to sit out because he came from another league..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Mar 08, 2013 at 12:02 AM
^Lately kasi, DLSU isn't getting players that are graduates of other UAAP member schools.. so the rule won't affect them.. their recent recruits are from the provinces like that kid Kib Montalbo from Bacolod and the Cameroonian center from Southwestern in Cebu.. although Ben Mbala also has to sit out because he came from another league..

Yep. They have DLSZ and other schools for their recruitment pipeline. If I have to be myopic and focus on basketball solely on this rule my argument lies in that it doesn't really affect the traditional powerhouses in fact it will only strengthen the HS program of these powerhouses as parents early on would want their kids enrolled in HS with them. It doesn't really affect dlsu or admu that much either. Look at their line-up most of their players are from ncaa or non-uaap schools. It is only now that jerie pingoy is moving to ateneo and mr. montinola and his machinations are in play to force the pingoys to reconsider their decision.

But on a grander scale, ultimately ang talo dito are the kids. This rule actually applies to the whole UAAP sports and the ones affected are the ones who are not that talented or are not good enough to crack their college teams or their alma mater does not offer the courses they want.

Imagine a kid who's a good chess player but his school's college does not offer dentistry and the only way he can afford college is a sports scholarship. Do you think UE will go out of its way to offer a sports scholarship to a guy who has to sit out two years!? And if they do offer one, talo pa rin yung kid. why? he has lost out 2 years of his life because instead of graduating agad and earning already for himself. He has to "earn" his scholarship. I don't think schools would give you a sports scholarship, let you sit out two years and then play only for two years and let you graduate.

The ones ultimately affected are a majority of students who need sports scholarship to just go through college and finish it right away and earn for themselves because fencing, chess, swimming, bowling, sipa, etc. doesn't really earn for you after college unlike superstar basketball players where they have life and still earn more after college hoops.

daming loop holes to this rule. tsk tsk tsk, if you can't win in the actual games you try to win it in the boardroom unfortunately for them they're only good on paper and the players and the team management's on court and off court demeanor reflects their rotten core.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Verbl Kint on Mar 08, 2013 at 09:14 AM
Any lawyers on the thread?

What is the legality of the UAAP board's decision?  What if somebody were to challenge this in court?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Mar 08, 2013 at 09:26 AM
Most of this could have been avoided if there was no presence of BOOSTERS & PATRONS who sponsor certain universities.

Like I've said more than a few times, such brazen sponsorship of athletic departments is completely ILLEGAL in other countries ...... here, it is out in the open and even applauded by the majority.

To top it all off, these patrons aren't exactly known for fair business practices ...... they are in fact, known cronies of the two greatest dictators ever (Suharto & Marcos).

In Pingoy's case, the kid had already signed a document which shows his intent to remain with FEU for his collegiate years ....... a few weeks later, his father speaks out to media that his son will play for ADMU ..... I cant blame FEU's Montinola going bananas from the obvious piracy.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Mar 08, 2013 at 11:33 PM
Sharing :-

http://www.hoopnut.com/2013/03/the-newuaaprule.html

Friday, March 8, 2013
The #NewUAAPRule


The message of the #NewUAAPRule is crystal clear:

“Here in the UAAP, we prioritize protecting the interests of our sports programs over upholding the interests of our student-athletes.”

It’s bad enough that the league actually has a “Soc Rivera” rule to discourage student-athletes from choosing the school/program they really want. Now the members of the UAAP Amendments Board, along with those who voted in favor of the proposed amendments, actually found a way to make an already bad rule even worse.

We all know the saying about not fixing something that isn’t broken right? Well, by golly, this time we have a real world example of something broken made even more… absurd.


Is Jerie Pingoy's rumored transfer what sparked
the paranoia behind the #NewUAAPRule?
(image by Warner David)

Imagine:

You graduate from a UAAP HS. You transfer to another UAAP institution because you want to be an architect, and architecture is not offered in your old school’s university. You decide to try out for your new school’s judo team because you were a pretty good judoka back in HS. Also, the prospect of an athletic scholarship would really help. The coach is impressed, but then he tells you he cannot get you because you came from another UAAP school. He wants to prioritize students who can compete right now. He gets someone who graduated from an NCAA HS instead. The scholarship goes to him, too.


Or this:

You graduate from a UAAP HS. You were a pretty decent football player in your old school, but you certainly won’t crack the roster of the Seniors team because, well, there are just too many other players who are better than you at the same position. The coach of a rival UAAP school gets in touch with you and says there might be a slot in that school’s Seniors team instead. Of course, you won’t be the star player of that team, but you take the “offer” because at least there’s a chance to actually make the final roster. The #NewUAAPRule is fine with you because, well, you’re just patient like that. In the two years you sit out, the school manages to land new recruits from elsewhere who are even better than you at, again, the same position – guys who are younger and more talented. You end up not playing at all. Your potential is unfulfilled.

Or this:

You’re a really talented volleyball player from the provinces who was recruited to play for a high school in Metro Manila. During your stint in the Juniors division, you play against great athletes and meet some of the most renowned coaches in the sport. You hope that, someday, you can play alongside these greats. You graduate from a UAAP HS. Because you’re such a great talent, several other UAAP schools try to recruit you for the Seniors division. Some of these schools employ the coaches you admired, and some of these schools are home to the players with whom you’ve always wanted to be teammates. Ironically, now that you’ve graduated, now that you’re supposed to feel the most free, you feel like you’re forced to stay put because of the two years you’ll miss.

Or this:

You graduate from a UAAP HS… oh, wait. I think the point has been made – this amendment to the Soc Rivera rule (are we going to dub it Soc Rivera 2.0 now, or the Jerie Pingoy rule?) can go wrong in so many ways and on so many levels.

And because of what? Because the UAAP and some of its member schools are infected with the twisted mindset that is the driving force behind this new rule.

What mindset?

Two words.

Selfishness and bitterness.

In the UAAP, it seems like a school is supposed to look at its student-athletes the same way an investor looks at his mutual funds or stocks. A school finds a student, sees athletic potential, recruits him, and lets him play in the UAAP. At some point in this process, perhaps with the student not even realizing it, the school feels as if it owns the rights to its perceived “investment.” It has to yield dividends, and it has to be the school that will benefit no matter what.

See what’s twisted there?

In the UAAP, when a school’s Juniors program successfully graduates its players, the expectation is not for the students to make choices they feel are best for themselves, but for the students to make just one choice – to join the same school’s Seniors program. Nothing else.

See what’s twisted there?

In case you’re having difficulty seeing the wrinkles in that kind of set-up, let me try to clarify things. Now, just to make sure you know where I’m coming from, know that I’ve been teaching full-time for TEN years, and that I am the moderator/coach of a sports club/team in a UAAP school.

As far as my research has uncovered, the UAAP is supposed “to provide the UAAP athletes a venue to hone their athletic prowess” – as mentioned on uaapsports.studio23.tv. The same site also expresses how the league “serves as a breeding ground for national athletes.” Nowhere in those lines can there be found any indication of protecting school sports programs as the primary priority. If we consider these two important lines, we should come up with a singular conclusion – that, by and large, the UAAP and its member schools must provide opportunities for its student-athletes’ talents to be maximized. The priority should be the student-athletes. NOT the programs.

And, no, don’t even start with the infinitely flawed “oh but the sports programs ARE the student-athletes” notion.

As for the schools themselves, well, I’ve always operated under the impression that a school’s primary mandate is to hone and prepare its students to make the best life choices in the future, even if one of those life choices is leaving one school and going to another.

In the context of student-athletes and sports programs, schools are supposed to use sports programs as opportunities for student-athletes to sharpen their skills and to push each other to excel. Sports programs are means to an end, and that end should be composed of sportsmanship and teamwork.

Not selfishness and bitterness.

Now just to reiterate, I’ve always believed that the Soc Rivera rule was something fueled by this twisted mindset. The only silver lining was that the “old school” could choose to clear its graduates and, therefore, waive the one-year residency. This was actually more the norm than the exception, at least as far as I can recall.

When Jeric Fortuna moved to UST and when Gwynne Capacio moved to Ateneo, De La Salle-Zobel didn’t force them to sit their freshman year (Capacio didn’t play his first year because he was on the RP-Youth squad). When Mike Gamboa and Paolo Romero went to UP (first year of the Soc Rivera rule in Gamboa’s case), and Paulo Pe moved to UST, Ateneo cleared them. Ditto when Mark Juruena moved from Adamson to UP and when Jovet Mendoza went to DLSU from NU. I’m sure many similar things happened in the other sports, too.

Not all schools are driven by selfishness and bitterness after all.

Another irony is it seems like it’s these schools that were put in the negative light.

“Some schools, whether you like it or not, two years talaga. Pero ‘yung ibang eskwela, one year. Nagiging subjective tuloy ‘yung pag-rerelease ng athlete,” Henry Atayde of DLSU said.

Now the UAAP has not only taken out the ability for a high school to clear its graduates, it also doubled the residency period.

And why?

“We wanted it to be uniform,” said NU’s Junel Baculi.

It’s a shallow reason that fails to justify a flawed rule.

Oh well, at least some members in the UAAP Board admit that there are still many things left to discuss before the rule is fully finalized and implemented.

“I can’t say it’s really final because the year isn’t over and any rule change that will be amended in Season 75 will take effect in Season 76. Season 75 isn’t over yet,” said UAAP Amendments Committee Head Em Fernandez of Ateneo.

Ironically (yes, there are just so many ironies with this issue!), Fernandez’s Ateneo was one of the schools that did not vote in favor of the amendments. UP was the other one.

“May proseso ‘yan. Inapprove na ‘yan ng board pero masyado pang maraming concerns and loopholes na hindi napag-uusapan,” Atayde commented. “Members of the UAAP board and the amendments committee still have to draft different guidelines and IRR because it has a lot of different intricacies.”

Methinks they pulled the trigger a little too quickly on this one, and they’re seeing the possible adverse repercussions only now.

Tsk tsk.

I only hope that the UAAP member schools who voted in favor of this unfavorable rule will be enlightened. I hope they will remember what the UAAP is truly for, and whose rights a school is supposed to uphold in the first place.

And, yeah, it would do well for them to listen to a Senator of the Philippine Republic, too.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: steelcrazy on Mar 10, 2013 at 08:26 AM
So what's the best way to approach these piracy problems facing the UAAP junior players?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: brainwashed on Mar 10, 2013 at 09:28 AM
Most of this could have been avoided if there was no presence of BOOSTERS & PATRONS who sponsor certain universities.

Like I've said more than a few times, such brazen sponsorship of athletic departments is completely ILLEGAL in other countries ...... here, it is out in the open and even applauded by the majority.

To top it all off, these patrons aren't exactly known for fair business practices ...... they are in fact, known cronies of the two greatest dictators ever (Suharto & Marcos).

In Pingoy's case, the kid had already signed a document which shows his intent to remain with FEU for his collegiate years ....... a few weeks later, his father speaks out to media that his son will play for ADMU ..... I cant blame FEU's Montinola going bananas from the obvious piracy.


How old is Pingoy? Is he still a minor? Will his being a minor have a bearing on the validity of the document he supposedly signed, probably without his parents' guidance? When was the document signed? Why make him sign such a document when the school year isn't even finished and Pingoy hasn't even graduated yet?

I can understand why Montinola is mad. He was trying to pull a fast one but for naught.

What I don't understand is why it's even called piracy when Pingoy has yet to play for FEU's senior basketball team. Yes, he starred for FEU's junior basketball, but does it automatically mean he is part of the senior's team? I don't think so.

I don't hear any school complaining when a freshman student who has already enrolled in their school decide to pull out his credentials, refund his money and enroll in another school for whatever reasons. I don't hear any schools complaining when a student who has actually taken up subjects in their school decide to transfer to another school. It's all part of the business of Education.

It's only basketball which makes these schools go bananas when they do not get a prospective student! It's only basketball which makes these schools forget their values.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: newwaveboy on Mar 10, 2013 at 10:41 AM
^ The UAAP & NCAA leagues pattern themselves after the US NCAA ....... this letter of intent was obviously taken from that league with the purpose of formally signifying your intent to go to whatever school you choose.

I'm no lawyer to answer the validity of such a document, but a signed document is significant ...... I dont think that Pingoy was coerced and forced to sign - afaik there has been no reactions from anyone outside FEU even questioning the signed letter of intent.

All we see are interviews from the elder Pingoy declaring his son will only play for ADMU, even with being redshirted for 2 years.

Pingoy's case is unfortunate since it opens a can of worms and offers solutions which might be good for some cases and bad for others.

I completely agree that basketball is big business, hence we see this mess out in the open ....... foreigners displacing local players, known HS prospects being openly courted by businessmen with no academic affiliation to schools, etc ....... it gets even way gross in pro basketball.



Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: frootloops on Mar 14, 2013 at 12:53 AM
Interesting article about college basketball recruitment San Beda coach Jude Roque in Yahoo Sports.

"The NCAA’s ban on foreign student-athletes borders on racial discrimination. The UAAP’s so-called “anti-piracy rule” is just plain absurd."

http://ph.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/sharp-shooter/restraining-college-recruitment-game-part-1-065212093.html

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: frootloops on Mar 15, 2013 at 10:53 PM
Part 2 of Coach Jude Roque's article about the changing landscape of the college basketball recruitment in the country.

http://ph.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/sharp-shooter/changing-recuitment-game-part-2-081329395.html
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: the_w0rks on Apr 13, 2013 at 04:53 PM
Watching Filoil tournament now.

Earlier, saw San beda vs NU. NU with Parks and Agora combo will be very dangerous!

Kagulo yung dalawang yun.

Now watching UST vs DLSU. gulat ako kay perkins. Wala na pala sa OKC, nasa DLSU na pala. Haha loko lang.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: Superman on Apr 13, 2013 at 05:01 PM
Watching Filoil tournament now.

Earlier, saw San beda vs NU. NU with Parks and Agora combo will be very dangerous!

Kagulo yung dalawang yun.

Now watching UST vs DLSU. gulat ako kay perkins. Wala na pala sa OKC, nasa DLSU na pala. Haha loko lang.



Perkins reminds me a mix of Willie Miller and Willy Wilson in one...good new addition to the Archers squad...
Title: Re: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2012
Post by: the_w0rks on Apr 13, 2013 at 05:07 PM

Perkins reminds me a mix of Willie Miller and Willy Wilson in one...good new addition to the Archers squad...

Daming bago ng green squad. Hope they finally make it back to elite level this year.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Apr 13, 2013 at 05:22 PM
( had to change this to 2013 ;D )

Saw the games.  Seems exciting.  That was a tribute to Bobby Parks by his son, Bobby Ray.  Too bad it was at the expense of my Red Lions :(

---

Sad to see Lim Eng Beng suffering from cancer.  But he looks OK kanina? Anyway,  hope he gets well.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: fentom on Apr 13, 2013 at 06:09 PM
Shucks talo pala RLs ko.. ilan ang lamang?
Title: Re: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: the_w0rks on Apr 13, 2013 at 06:29 PM
Shucks talo pala RLs ko.. ilan ang lamang?

2 points yata o 1 point lang. Ray Parks sent the game to OT tapos missed free throws from d.semerad gave NU a chance to seal it in OT.

Sana kaya oa magchamp ng RL natin sa NCAA this year. Hehe
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2014
Post by: mattia on Jun 06, 2013 at 08:20 AM
http://sports.inquirer.net/103333/filoil-amer-stars-as-san-beda-shuts-down-la-salle-for-semis-slot


This one's a great game, if you're a Lion.  Go San Beda Fight!!!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: fentom on Jun 07, 2013 at 11:49 AM
^Never underestimate the heart of a champion. 10 down with 4 minutes to go. Pinasok si Amer. Game over.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: frootloops on Jun 07, 2013 at 02:40 PM
Let's ROAR!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Superman on Jun 08, 2013 at 10:44 PM
Coach Juno Sauler takes over coaching reigns for the DLSU Green Archers. Coach Gee Abanilla goes back to the Petron coaching staff...
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Jun 22, 2013 at 06:54 AM
After the NBA..


NCAA naman bukas!


And soon UAAP...


Let's cheer for our schools!!!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: puffalan84 on Jun 22, 2013 at 09:34 AM
Has anyone seen the new la salle players? 2 filams daw kya lng ung 1 under residency pa, Magagaling daw.. NU I think will be the team to beat this year, but  I'm not counting out ateneo because of kiefer, and the always dark horse, UST.. FEU still has the best backcourt for me.. Wala pa ko team sa UAAP, bka nxt year pa.. :)

Go Knights (NC).. :)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: frootloops on Jun 22, 2013 at 07:40 PM
The game between San Beda and St. Benilde was a perfect thriller to open the season.

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Jun 23, 2013 at 12:42 AM
The game between San Beda and St. Benilde was a perfect thriller to open the season.



Wow, what a win.  71-70 off Art Dela Cruz's game winning play with 3.7 secs to go. 

Those missed FTs and errors could have cost the Lions the game.  Not a good game by SBC but a win is a win.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Superman on Jun 23, 2013 at 12:46 AM
Has anyone seen the new la salle players? 2 filams daw kya lng ung 1 under residency pa, Magagaling daw.. NU I think will be the team to beat this year, but  I'm not counting out ateneo because of kiefer, and the always dark horse, UST.. FEU still has the best backcourt for me.. Wala pa ko team sa UAAP, bka nxt year pa.. :)

Go Knights (NC).. :)

Are you referring to Jason Perkins?

Strong UAAP Teams this year:

DLSU
Ateneo
NU

And both UST and UE
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jun 23, 2013 at 11:26 AM
Are you referring to Jason Perkins?

Strong UAAP Teams this year:

DLSU
Ateneo
NU

And both UST and UE

He's probably referring to Jason Perkins and Matt Salem. They have a lot of fil-ams doing residency. They also have Mbala from SWU who's doing residency and will play next year.

i'd rank them this way:
1.) UE - really scrappy. Sumang is the best pg in the league today. Charles Mammie is a good Center.
2.) UST - lacks a steady PG presence but still has the core of the team intact.
3.) NU - BRP would like to go out with a bang this year (i think he might move to the PBA and forego his playing year next year) and their new import Arroga is quite good.
4.) DLSU - anything less of a final four appearance would be another disappointment. With the way they have been stacking blue chip recruits over the years, it has to pay dividends.

Dark horse : Ateneo - never count out Kiefer and Ryan. Sorely lacking in the frontline department. They even had to reactivate a player to active duty who has not played competitive basketball for a few years as there are no serviceable big men to call up from Team B.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Jun 24, 2013 at 10:06 PM
LPU Beats San Beda 70-66 :(

Not a good start by the Lions this season.  Could have been down 0-2 if not for that delacruz alley-oop winning shot.  This is bad.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Jun 26, 2013 at 07:19 AM
I heard from a reliable source that all is not well at the San Beda dugout.  Seems like Coach Boyet Fernandez is putting the blame on his wards.  Sabi daw nya di nya alam kung bakit hindi motivated ang players nya.  I guess it's the coach's responsibility to motivate the players because this is college basketball. 

One more loss and Coach Boyet should expect the worst for him >:(
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: vinci on Jun 29, 2013 at 06:49 PM
nasa bench pala ng lasalle si caidic. low.scoring ball game between ust and dlsu.

earlier pinakita ng feu gano kalupit back court nila with romeo and garcia.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: leomarley on Jun 29, 2013 at 07:16 PM
go USTe! go USTe! go USTe!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Jun 29, 2013 at 07:56 PM
With FEU's season-opener win, Terrence Romeo must finally realize that team basketball gives you the best shot at winning a game.

Romeo (finally) passed the ball well and restrained himself from playing his usual hero-ball ...... his talent has always been evident (even during his HS days); but he has always played selfishly during big games ang close moments.

===============================================================

In some ways, no team deserved to win that game between UST & DLSU ...... very sloppy play and poor shooting from both teams.

It was like watching two UP MAROONS teams going at it.  ;D

Jeric Teng playing true to his senior stature ....... Vosotros still proving to be a poor man's version of JV Casio - he's always had the balls to take the shots, but consistency is still far off.

DLSU's sports agents in the US seems to have found a keeper in Perkins ...... good stroke and heady plays - all well within the offense of his team.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Jun 29, 2013 at 08:06 PM
nasa bench pala ng lasalle si caidic. low.scoring ball game between ust and dlsu.

earlier pinakita ng feu gano kalupit back court nila with romeo and garcia.

Allan Caidic is DLSU's shooting coach. 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Jul 03, 2013 at 06:13 PM
Nilagay ni boss danding hehe
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jul 03, 2013 at 06:25 PM
Ateneo loses back to back games for the first time since 2007.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jul 03, 2013 at 06:33 PM
oh well. first time ateneo starts the season 0-2 since 2003. I still believe! Hopefully the injured players get well soon and start playing like they used to. Hopefully buenafe loses 10-15lbs to regain his mobility but he did quite well today given his current condition. 25points!++
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 03, 2013 at 07:22 PM
oh well. first time ateneo starts the season 0-2 since 2003. I still believe! Hopefully the injured players get well soon and start playing like they used to. Hopefully buenafe loses 10-15lbs to regain his mobility but he did quite well today given his current condition. 25points!++

Today? Db UAAP games are always scheduled on Thu, Sat and Sun?
Kanino natalo ang Ateneo today?
Sorry i'm not updated with the current UAAP games.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jul 03, 2013 at 07:49 PM
oh well. first time ateneo starts the season 0-2 since 2003. I still believe! Hopefully the injured players get well soon and start playing like they used to. Hopefully buenafe loses 10-15lbs to regain his mobility but he did quite well today given his current condition. 25points!++

why is this Buenafe guy always out of shape? If I am the coach I will sit this player out untill he gets to discipline himself and be concerned about his physicality.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jul 03, 2013 at 08:16 PM
Today? Db UAAP games are always scheduled on Thu, Sat and Sun?
Kanino natalo ang Ateneo today?
Sorry i'm not updated with the current UAAP games.

Wednesday, Saturday, Sundays na ang games.

Ateneo lost to FEU today. They lost to NU last Sunday. They go up against DLSU this coming Sunday. Though first week for Ateneo. Might stare at a 0-3 start or even 0-4! @@

Kiefer sprained his ankle last friday and tried to play last sunday. He might have to undergo an MRI scan tomorrow just to be sure.

why is this Buenafe guy always out of shape? If I am the coach I will sit this player out untill he gets to discipline himself and be concerned about his physicality.

Kasi he took the words of the coaching staff too literal. To be an anchor of the team when they need someone to create offense when kiefer is on the bench. He took the words too literally and tried to anchor the team in weight. hehe. 

Endorser kasi ng Greenwich pizza, parati lng pizza kinakain. hehe.

I actually don't know the answer! :D there's a team nutritionist and trainer. as to why he's still overweight, beats me. He actually doesn't train with the team that much during summers. he's told to focus on studies and he usually gets to a bit of his "fighting" weight in the middle of the season and performs during finals. He surprises the opposing team during the semifinals and finals with his MVP performance. :D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 03, 2013 at 08:25 PM
Ryan has always been a BIG TIME player. Mataba, mabagal, say all negative words to him but in crunch time, all his critics simply shut up.
All i can say is he peaks up his game during the later stages of the tournament and he's just warming up early in the tournament.
Ateneo only needs to get into the Final 4 and Ryan will once again carry the Eagles to the championship.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jul 03, 2013 at 08:32 PM
why is this Buenafe guy always out of shape? If I am the coach I will sit this player out untill he gets to discipline himself and be concerned about his physicality.

That is his fighting shape.  His build is like Noli Locsin but plays like a guard. 

He ballooned to 50 lbs bigger than that at one point, when he was cut from the team due to academic issues.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Jul 03, 2013 at 09:00 PM
Ateneo lost two key games but those were close ones without Ravena. If all players are in tip-top shape they are still contenders.

I'm not that excited anymore watching the games unlike the NBA Finals because it looks like a PBA reinforced conference with imports sidelining the local players. Pathetic
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 03, 2013 at 09:37 PM
Ateneo lost two key games but those were close ones without Ravena. If all players are in tip-top shape they are still contenders.

I'm not that excited anymore watching the games unlike the NBA Finals because it looks like a PBA reinforced conference with imports sidelining the local players. Pathetic

So true. Blame in on San Beda. They started it with EKWE and other teams followed with their own recruitments of imports. Hnd naman kailngan ng imports sa collegiate leagues. It's suppose to be a training ground for home grown talents. Dpat tlga ALL FILIPINO with some Fil-Ams to spice it up.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Jul 03, 2013 at 10:01 PM
No it's La Salle who brought that trend, but those were true mestizos playing in the late 80s when they joined UAAP.  ;D Unfortunately, it's different when they started scouting players in the US like in the PBA during their downhill era. They would fake documents saying they are half Filipinos with one Filipino parent but bearing a western sounding surname behind the jerseys. Now, with that residency rule b.s. they can bring in african players to play here. Of course we would be called racists if they aren't allowed to play in the league. The physical advantage is on their side most often than not.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Jul 05, 2013 at 07:22 AM
Just saw the news today that Ravena will be sidelined indefinitely for Ateneo. So unfortunate for them if they are gunning for Anim-O and makes an unfair advantage for other teams.

Does this season count in his eligibility to play for the team in 5 years?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: onedown on Jul 05, 2013 at 08:12 AM
^
it will count as he is in the official line up. besides, he played in the first game, remember?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Jul 05, 2013 at 10:05 PM
Just saw the news today that Ravena will be sidelined indefinitely for Ateneo. So unfortunate for them if they are gunning for Anim-O and makes an unfair advantage for other teams.

Does this season count in his eligibility to play for the team in 5 years?

Yup, this season counts under his total playing years.

Why unfair bro? ....... Ravena was injured through his own actions and regular play - the normal risk that all athletes go through.

Now, local collegiate teams with a P20+ M annual budget from persons with no academic ties to the learning institution (note that this amount is the same amount used by PBA teams to run their season) ..... local collegiate teams which employ sports agents / scouts in the USA ...... IMO these are the legit unfair advantages.  ;D

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: fentom on Jul 06, 2013 at 11:16 AM
So true. Blame in on San Beda. They started it with EKWE and other teams followed with their own recruitments of imports. Hnd naman kailngan ng imports sa collegiate leagues. It's suppose to be a training ground for home grown talents. Dpat tlga ALL FILIPINO with some Fil-Ams to spice it up.

Actually nun bago pa lang collegiate basketball dito satin karamihan sa players puro foreigners. Or naturalized citizens. Look up some old pre at post WWII pics. Nun 90's lang early 2000s medyo nabawasan sila.

Anyway mabuti nga yan at masanay sila makipag bangaan sa mga malalaki at magagaling na players.

 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Jul 06, 2013 at 04:46 PM
Was able to watch the game earlier between Adamson and UST.  Great comeback by the Tigers.  And a nice dagger shot by Jeric Teng to seal the game ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jul 06, 2013 at 11:03 PM
Was able to watch the game earlier between Adamson and UST.  Great comeback by the Tigers.  And a nice dagger shot by Jeric Teng to seal the game ;D

Malas pa Adamson at ninakawan yung locker room nila sa Araneta.

And speaking of dagger shots, that game-winning 3 by Sumang in the 2nd game between UE and NU was really something. The kid really has guts. Tied game, 21 secs left, no more shot clock. He let it run down to less than 10secs then he pulled up for a long 3 over Ray-Ray Parks. Swish may kasama pang foul. Napaiyak si Coach Zamar ng UE.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: vinci on Jul 06, 2013 at 11:57 PM
nood ako replay. 2nd half ng ue nu. wow sumang! 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Jul 07, 2013 at 08:51 AM
Malas pa Adamson at ninakawan yung locker room nila sa Araneta.

And speaking of dagger shots, that game-winning 3 by Sumang in the 2nd game between UE and NU was really something. The kid really has guts. Tied game, 21 secs left, no more shot clock. He let it run down to less than 10secs then he pulled up for a long 3 over Ray-Ray Parks. Swish may kasama pang foul. Napaiyak si Coach Zamar ng UE.

I missed this game.  But I noticed Sumang had good moves when I watched bits and pieces of the 1st half.  Sayang I had to leave.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Hitman on Jul 07, 2013 at 09:47 AM
Bakit parang nauuso nakawan sa mga dug out? Wala bang security yang mga venue na yan?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jul 07, 2013 at 07:15 PM
Ateneo de Manila starts the season 0-3. I sure hope the dark ages aren't back.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: nbc on Jul 07, 2013 at 07:42 PM
Ateneo tanking this season in hopes of drafting Wiggins for next year.

nbc
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: rochie on Jul 07, 2013 at 08:15 PM
langya halos lahat ng teams may import na ngayon.kala ko PBA pinapanood ko kahapon.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: leomarley on Jul 07, 2013 at 08:19 PM
Ateneo de Manila starts the season 0-3. I sure hope the dark ages aren't back.

it's the 90's all over again LOL
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Superman on Jul 07, 2013 at 08:41 PM
Game could have gone either way. Both teams missed one key player each (Kiefer for Ateneo and LA for La Salle). Another classic La Salle-Ateneo game today. In the end, green won over blue. See you in Round 2 and hopefully in the Final Four!

Animo!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 07, 2013 at 10:22 PM
That Sumang reminds me of Derick Rose, grabe that boy have GUTS!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: elim on Jul 08, 2013 at 09:48 AM
Yup, this season counts under his total playing years.

Why unfair bro? ....... Ravena was injured through his own actions and regular play - the normal risk that all athletes go through.

Now, local collegiate teams with a P20+ M annual budget from persons with no academic ties to the learning institution (note that this amount is the same amount used by PBA teams to run their season) ..... local collegiate teams which employ sports agents / scouts in the USA ...... IMO these are the legit unfair advantages.  ;D



+1 how is getting a player injured equate to giving an opponent an unfair advantage. An advantage maybe but its how the game works. sometimes players get injured.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: puffalan84 on Jul 08, 2013 at 10:50 AM
Kahapon ko lng napansin, wala na pala si tallo sa la salle.. Patience talaga is a virtue, dapat sya starter ng ateneo ngaun.. :)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jul 08, 2013 at 11:29 AM
He was supposed to be the next Tenorio, now he might end up going back to Cebu.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: fentom on Jul 08, 2013 at 01:21 PM
^Alam ko nag lalaro na siya sa Cebu. Kala ko ba mas magaling daw to kay Ravena at Amer?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jul 08, 2013 at 01:25 PM
He was supposed to be the next Tenorio, now he might end up going back to Cebu.

Tallo is already in Cebu. He's playing with SWU. It's his third college team in as many years.

Recently, there was an article written on Nico Elorde switching to Ateneo and Tallo switching to DLSU. link as follows:-

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/316272/sports/opinion/a-tale-of-two-transfers-nico-elorde-and-mac-mac-tallo
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: fentom on Jul 08, 2013 at 02:33 PM
Ano daw ba yun nag cause ng sprain ni Ravena? Sabi nila yun sa commercial daw?
Title: Re: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jul 08, 2013 at 08:57 PM
Tallo is already in Cebu. He's playing with SWU. It's his third college team in as many years.

Recently, there was an article written on Nico Elorde switching to Ateneo and Tallo switching to DLSU. link as follows:-

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/316272/sports/opinion/a-tale-of-two-transfers-nico-elorde-and-mac-mac-tallo

Thanks for the link. Tallo should have really been patient.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: puffalan84 on Jul 08, 2013 at 09:13 PM
Sayang talaga, ang dami pa namang teams ngaun na kailangan ng guard..

NCAA: Letran 3-0 :).. Go Knights..   
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Jul 10, 2013 at 12:30 PM
Why unfair bro? ....... Ravena was injured through his own actions and regular play - the normal risk that all athletes go through.

I mean ideally all players should be playing with their teams in this league but sitting on a bench with an injury would be the last thing to worry. Of course, not being able to play from a suspension is a different case. Agree injury would be the dealbreaker of all players in any sport.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Jul 11, 2013 at 12:15 PM
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/video/sports/07/10/13/usts-jeric-teng-injures-shoulder-after-push

gulpihin dapat 'tong player ng NU sa labas!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: tifosi_pao on Jul 11, 2013 at 12:18 PM
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/video/sports/07/10/13/usts-jeric-teng-injures-shoulder-after-push

gulpihin dapat 'tong player ng NU sa labas!
nakow...wag sya magagawi sa espana...yari yan :D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Jul 11, 2013 at 01:48 PM
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/video/sports/07/10/13/usts-jeric-teng-injures-shoulder-after-push

gulpihin dapat 'tong player ng NU sa labas!

Those blindside hits almost always hurts the most, since the victim doesn't even brace for impact.

Hard to tell if the NU player did it on purpose ....... at the very least, what he did was a careless play, since those crashing the boards from the top, usually go around opponents - not run through them.

Unfortunate for both Teng and USTe.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Jul 11, 2013 at 06:24 PM
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/07/11/13/javillonar-warned-unsportsmanlike-foul-teng

Warning lang! Dapat suspended na yan after reviewing the video.

Eto suspended

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/07/11/13/ues-mammie-suspended-attacking-adamsons-cabrera
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Jul 11, 2013 at 10:51 PM
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/07/11/13/javillonar-warned-unsportsmanlike-foul-teng

Warning lang! Dapat suspended na yan after reviewing the video.

Eto suspended

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/07/11/13/ues-mammie-suspended-attacking-adamsons-cabrera

Galit na galit si Daddy Alvin Teng, dinuduro yun Javillonar.  Too bad.  Tsk tsk. 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: puffalan84 on Jul 11, 2013 at 11:13 PM
Bad.. Sana hindi serious ang injury, uste pa naman favorite to win this year, wala nang babantay kay rayray..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: brainwashed on Jul 14, 2013 at 07:26 PM
Ateneo breaks into the win column by beating Adamson.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: oweidah on Jul 18, 2013 at 09:26 PM
csb heartbreak team of the year
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Jul 18, 2013 at 09:29 PM
csb heartbreak team of the year

they lost again by 1 pt????
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: puffalan84 on Jul 20, 2013 at 02:45 PM
Watching live now.. Feeling ko college ulet, :).. Beda jru next game.. Hirap ng parking dito sa sa san juan arena..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jul 20, 2013 at 07:49 PM
Just read that Letran player Franz Dysam and his wife/gf were shot. Letran had a game earlier so it must have happened after. Concious daw yung player but his wife isn't. Letran coach Caloy Garcia confirmed the news. Hoping and praying they're both okay.

EDIT: Letran's Fr. Vic Calvo confirms that Letran player Franz Dysam's wife declared dead.

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/318418/sports/campussports/ncaa-letran-player-and-wife-shot-latter-declared-dead
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jul 21, 2013 at 02:03 AM
Just read that Letran player Franz Dysam and his wife/gf were shot. Letran had a game earlier so it must have happened after. Concious daw yung player but his wife isn't. Letran coach Caloy Garcia confirmed the news. Hoping and praying they're both okay.

EDIT: Letran's Fr. Vic Calvo confirms that Letran player Franz Dysam's wife declared dead.

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/318418/sports/campussports/ncaa-letran-player-and-wife-shot-latter-declared-dead

Riding in tandem na naman. :(
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Jul 21, 2013 at 08:19 AM
Just read that Letran player Franz Dysam and his wife/gf were shot. Letran had a game earlier so it must have happened after. Concious daw yung player but his wife isn't. Letran coach Caloy Garcia confirmed the news. Hoping and praying they're both okay.

EDIT: Letran's Fr. Vic Calvo confirms that Letran player Franz Dysam's wife declared dead.

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/318418/sports/campussports/ncaa-letran-player-and-wife-shot-latter-declared-dead

What could be the cause?  Involved ba sa game fixing? 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: brainwashed on Jul 21, 2013 at 08:50 AM
2 rebounds and an assist in 9 minutes of play. shot 6 times in the chest. mukhang di game-fixing related ito kundi talagang may galit sa kanya.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Jul 21, 2013 at 09:41 AM
Just sad news ..... some news reports state that the authorities are looking at a possible love-triangle scenario (re: late wife was a former girlfriend of an ex-policeman).

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: puffalan84 on Jul 21, 2013 at 09:58 AM
Sad news for letran community..

On the bright side, cruz showing his skills yesterday, parang napaganda pa pag alis ni kevin alas sa team.. Go Knights..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Jul 22, 2013 at 07:06 AM
Just sad news ..... some news reports state that the authorities are looking at a possible love-triangle scenario (re: late wife was a former girlfriend of an ex-policeman).



Yes same story I got from my sources.  Love triangle and the girl was the real target.  Nadamay lang si Dysam.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jul 22, 2013 at 09:10 AM
I wonder how Dysam's parents feel. I'm thinking they may have had misgivings on their son dating someone 10 years older and already with 2 kids.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 24, 2013 at 08:17 PM
I wonder how Dysam's parents feel. I'm thinking they may have had misgivings on their son dating someone 10 years older and already with 2 kids.

I think they dont mind their son having a Sugar MAMA.
Remember Hayden also have Belo.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 27, 2013 at 09:13 PM
Ryan Buenafe bailed out the Eagles again with clutch plays in the end game vs the Tigers.
He's starting to peak up his game by showing his presence in crucial stages of the game.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jul 27, 2013 at 09:17 PM
Ryan Buenafe bailed out the Eagles again with clutch plays in the end game vs the Tigers.
He's starting to peak up his game by showing his presence in crucial stages of the game.

"The only injury Ryan (Buenafe) has is his weight" - Coach Bo Perasol.

http://youtu.be/LmW7FEJZBrQ

Insane! Hustle from Newsome collaring the ball which was going out of bounds. Pass to Ryan and Newsome runs from out of bounds back to the court near the basket and a no look pass(?) from Ryan to Chris who finished it with a dunk! Great recognition, insane bball iq!

Now, if ryan only loses 15lbs more then he'd regain his mobility to back up the game and insane basketball iq he has.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jul 28, 2013 at 02:58 AM
OBF!!

I hope this is the beginning of Ateneo's resurgence.  With all the teams bunched up, there is a huge opportunity to still get a twice-to-beat spot.

I do have a feeling that the quotient system may need to come into play prior to the playoffs.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 28, 2013 at 03:43 PM
"The only injury Ryan (Buenafe) has is his weight" - Coach Bo Perasol.

http://youtu.be/LmW7FEJZBrQ

Insane! Hustle from Newsome collaring the ball which was going out of bounds. Pass to Ryan and Newsome runs from out of bounds back to the court near the basket and a no look pass(?) from Ryan to Chris who finished it with a dunk! Great recognition, insane bball iq!

Now, if ryan only loses 15lbs more then he'd regain his mobility to back up the game and insane basketball iq he has.

You can say what you want on Ryan but no matter what, he plays BIG during crunch time.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Jul 28, 2013 at 05:07 PM
Ryan Buenafe has always been the Robert Horry of local collegiate hoops ....... he can be non-existent most of the game/season, but will almost always find a way to hit big shots during crunch time.

It's not a knock on Buenafe when most say he's fat ...... it's obvious that he's "big-boned" and will always be on the heavy side of any scale. The weight appears to be natural to his family (cousin Ronjay Buenafe is on the heavy-side as well).

It's the UAAP, where slow and plodding bigs are not much of a liability (ex. Bono, Patrimonio, Buenaventura, Kong, Rolan, etc) ...... however, cracking a PBA rotation is a much different thing.

Should he aspire to make an impact in the PBA, Buenafe needs to take his conditioning very seriously.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Hitman on Jul 28, 2013 at 09:20 PM
Ano ba course ni Buenafe? Medicine? Parang ang tagal na niya sa ateneo ah??
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 28, 2013 at 10:36 PM
Ano ba course ni Buenafe? Medicine? Parang ang tagal na niya sa ateneo ah??


He's playing his 5th and final year for Ateneo,  He was part of Black's 3peat with Ateneo but skipped the 4peat and again was part of the 5peat.
I just hope he can also get 5 out 5 like Nico Salvo and Justine Chua.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: puffalan84 on Jul 28, 2013 at 11:33 PM
Watching the replay of FEU adamson.. Romeo for mvp, although for me garcia is still better than him overall..   
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: brainwashed on Jul 29, 2013 at 04:10 AM
Watching the replay of FEU adamson.. Romeo for mvp, although for me garcia is still better than him overall..   

When Romeo has the ball and starts to work his way to the basket, you know he'll pass only as an afterthought. On the other hand, when Garcia has the ball and starts to work his way to the basket, you really have no idea whether he intends to go to the basket or set up a teammate.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: puffalan84 on Jul 29, 2013 at 08:37 AM
^ exactly, romeo is more like OKC's westbrook.. Their coach is doing a very good job handling all these aa guards including Pogoy ang Tolomia..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 29, 2013 at 10:25 AM
Watching the replay of FEU adamson.. Romeo for mvp, although for me garcia is still better than him overall..   

No doubt Romeo is the undisputed season MVP at the moment.
He's playing very well, keepin control of himself and hitting clutch baskets bailing out his team.
More polishing will make it a much better player than RR Garcia simply becoz of his size and aggressiveness.

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 29, 2013 at 10:30 AM
Ryan Buenafe has always been the Robert Horry of local collegiate hoops ....... he can be non-existent most of the game/season, but will almost always find a way to hit big shots during crunch time.

It's not a knock on Buenafe when most say he's fat ...... it's obvious that he's "big-boned" and will always be on the heavy side of any scale. The weight appears to be natural to his family (cousin Ronjay Buenafe is on the heavy-side as well).

It's the UAAP, where slow and plodding bigs are not much of a liability (ex. Bono, Patrimonio, Buenaventura, Kong, Rolan, etc) ...... however, cracking a PBA rotation is a much different thing.

Should he aspire to make an impact in the PBA, Buenafe needs to take his conditioning very seriously.


I feel Ryan will do good in the PBA becoz he has the body to bang around plus he's an intelligent player who knows how to feed his teamates in certain situations of the game.
He also knows how to create situations to score.
I foresee him playing the same type of game as when he was with the Staglets of Baste.
He was very dominant coz he has the ball most of the time.
Playing for Ateneo and under Black's system somehow limit his game but still he adjusted well enough and showed his brilliance when it needed most.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Jul 29, 2013 at 10:32 AM
Pag ba may sweep sa second round automatic na champions na or just waiting for the finals berth?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: vinci on Jul 29, 2013 at 11:45 AM
Pag ba may sweep sa second round automatic na champions na or just waiting for the finals berth?

waiting lang bro. parang yung UE with dindo pumaren dati.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Jul 29, 2013 at 02:22 PM
Ah, thanks Vinci. Akala ko parang nung panahon nina Espino sa UST nung 93 (yata).

I think FEU won't sweep the second round. Labo labo na sila sa second round kasi ang pangit ng standings, either 4-3 or 3-4 yung karamihan.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: vinci on Jul 29, 2013 at 02:53 PM
Ah, thanks Vinci. Akala ko parang nung panahon nina Espino sa UST nung 93 (yata).

yup di ko lang alam kelan nag take effect yung ganun.yung waiting na lang. 
tagal nag antay ng UE masyado non. ayun nangalawang. talo tuloy.hehehe

baka ganyan din mangyari kung sakaling ma sweep ng FEU ang eliminations
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Jul 29, 2013 at 04:18 PM
I feel Ryan will do good in the PBA becoz he has the body to bang around plus he's an intelligent player who knows how to feed his teamates in certain situations of the game.
He also knows how to create situations to score.
I foresee him playing the same type of game as when he was with the Staglets of Baste.
He was very dominant coz he has the ball most of the time.
Playing for Ateneo and under Black's system somehow limit his game but still he adjusted well enough and showed his brilliance when it needed most.

No doubt that Buenafe is an intelligent player ...... he has the uncanny knack of making the right plays and making the shots, during clutch situations. He's been that way, even back in HS.

Just for his pedigree, Buenafe will be likely be drafted and signed in the PBA (for mysterious and obvious reasons, all ADMU players get drafted ...... heck, even an inept Jai Reyes was signed a few years back).  ;)

IMO it's the conditioning part which will prevent him from making a mark in the pros ...... his body is inherently big. Even a PT friend of mine, doubts that conditioning can consistently keep Buenafe's weight down.

In recent PBA history, I cant recall a portly (read: slow & plodding) player who had a significant impact in the game ...... some possible exceptions are Belga & Quinahan - but it can be argued that Belga is actually very light on his feet and Quinahan has bounced around, only to find a role in Guiao's system.

In many ways, a guy like Ken Bono has had a more consistent amateur career than Buenafe ...... just unfortunate that the ex-MVP was up against PBA forwards and centers that move much faster and jump higher.

I'm rooting for Buenafe ....... for his sake, he better get the best conditioning possible before making that plunge to the pros.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 29, 2013 at 06:00 PM
It will be nice to see Buenafe joining the EXTRA RICE BOYS of Rain or Shine.
His style is a perfect fit to Coach Guiao's system and i'm so sure Ryan will excel under the watchful eyes of Coach Yeng.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 29, 2013 at 09:30 PM
Anu na balita sa NCAA?
I know Letran is now 7-0 just like FEU.
How about San Beda? Anu standings?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: fentom on Jul 29, 2013 at 09:41 PM
May isang talo RLs sa Lyceum pa WTF :P
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: the_w0rks on Jul 30, 2013 at 08:53 AM
It will be nice to see Buenafe joining the EXTRA RICE BOYS of Rain or Shine.
His style is a perfect fit to Coach Guiao's system and i'm so sure Ryan will excel under the watchful eyes of Coach Yeng.

Nakupo. Sarap ng kainan ni Belga, Quinahan at Buenafe nyan pag nagkataon! haha

"coach, extra rice pa nga!"
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: puffalan84 on Jul 30, 2013 at 09:00 AM
The good thing with Buenafe is his basketball IQ and may hang time pa rin kahit mabigat..

Re NCAA, Beda is still the team to beat I think, sa laki nila nag mumukhang malnourished mga kalaban nila.. Go Letran..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 30, 2013 at 02:29 PM
The good thing with Buenafe is his basketball IQ and may hang time pa rin kahit mabigat..

Re NCAA, Beda is still the team to beat I think, sa laki nila nag mumukhang malnourished mga kalaban nila.. Go Letran..

May hangtime, may 3 pts, may barrelling drive, may post up moves. Just name it and he has it.
Parang pinaghalong Chito Loyzaga at Noli Locsin yn si Ryan and impact player yn.
So ROS draft him to join the EXTRA RICE boys.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jul 30, 2013 at 05:04 PM
May hangtime, may 3 pts, may barrelling drive, may post up moves. Just name it and he has it.
Parang pinaghalong Chito Loyzaga at Noli Locsin yn si Ryan and impact player yn.
So ROS draft him to join the EXTRA RICE boys.

pero may disiplina ba sya?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: TOP 20 on Jul 30, 2013 at 09:23 PM
How about this young Tamaraw - Terrence Romeo?

So far, he's been proving me wrong. I find him a ballhog but he delivers during crunch time. Matuto lang sana pumasa & better shot selection, he could be the best guard to come out of FEU since Johnny A.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 30, 2013 at 10:20 PM
How about this young Tamaraw - Terrence Romeo?

So far, he's been proving me wrong. I find him a ballhog but he delivers during crunch time. Matuto lang sana pumasa & better shot selection, he could be the best guard to come out of FEU since Johnny A.

He has the potential to be a better player than Jimmy Alapag becoz of his size and slowly he's trying his best to improve his game specially his attitude.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: puffalan84 on Jul 30, 2013 at 10:58 PM
He is good, shot selection lang.. But what I liked about him is di takot kahit sino bumantay..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: deist on Jul 31, 2013 at 01:35 AM
Romeo's achilles heal the past 2 seasons is his decision making, may tendency din to ball hog. ganun din si RR nung rookie year pero evident ang maturity ni RR this season. Romeo's exciting to watch, he can score in a hundred different ways! Next to Romeo ang nakikita kong playmaker is Sumang of UE.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Aug 15, 2013 at 11:44 AM
nagbakaw si Romeo kahapon, ayan talo.

'Imports in college hoops will hurt local big men'

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/08/15/13/imports-college-hoops-will-hurt-local-big-men
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Aug 15, 2013 at 12:22 PM
^ Finally ...... It's good that a prominent sports figure has spoken about the ill effects of having imports in the local collegiate leagues.

Like I've been saying all the way for the old threads - basketball is one sport wherein this country has an OVER-ABUNDANCE of local talents for the collegiate leagues.

Having imports clearly displaces local prospects ...... aside from other offshoots e.g. Under-the-table-deals, etc.

However, Chot Reyes needs not go far if he wants a dialogue about this cause ...... it was his boss MVP and his lackeys who started all of this.  ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Aug 18, 2013 at 07:59 PM
Nasira momentum ng FEU dahil sa FIBA Asia. They've lost back-to-back now. First vs NU, then today vs La Salle.

Yung Letran din natalo na vs Perpetual.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: puffalan84 on Aug 24, 2013 at 08:11 PM
finally after 15 regular game losing streak.. nanalo rin.. :)..
arriba letran..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Aug 25, 2013 at 04:06 PM
Ryan Buenafe player of the game in today's match against adamson. 18pts. 9 rebs. 4 assists. He needs to lose more weight but i believe with the way things are going he'd be in perfect fighting form in a few weeks.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 25, 2013 at 07:09 PM
Ryan Buenafe player of the game in today's match against adamson. 18pts. 9 rebs. 4 assists. He needs to lose more weight but i believe with the way things are going he'd be in perfect fighting form in a few weeks.

It's time for Ryan to make some noice now that his team is on target to the Final 4.
Never mind his weight, that's never an issue to him. He just shows up when he's needed most.
Btw he's Ateneo's top rebounder and top assist man for the season.

Great 2 overtime win for the Tams over the Warriors, great game by Tolomia and Romeo outshining Olivares and Sumang on the last dash.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Aug 28, 2013 at 01:43 AM
Dami yatang na suspend ah.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/08/27/13/ue-players-face-2-game-ban-attacking-feus-romeo

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: vinci on Sep 01, 2013 at 07:55 PM
na sweep ng dlsu ang admu tbis season thanks sa game winning shot ni jeron teng.  laking bagay yung technical foul ni coach bo.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Superman on Sep 01, 2013 at 08:00 PM
The technical foul spelled the difference. 2FTs for the T, winning margin = 2pts. Not only was a technical foul done in the court, nakipag-away pa faw sa fan after the game si Coach Bo. Tsk tsk tsk!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: leomarley on Sep 01, 2013 at 08:06 PM
UST won against FEU. Go USTe!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Wiggum on Sep 01, 2013 at 08:11 PM
^^ C/o fullcourtfresh.com.

(http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/805226731.jpg?1378033757)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Sep 01, 2013 at 11:35 PM
The technical foul spelled the difference. 2FTs for the T, winning margin = 2pts. Not only was a technical foul done in the court, nakipag-away pa faw sa fan after the game si Coach Bo. Tsk tsk tsk!

First to disclose, I'm from ateneo and i watched the game live. The fans from DLSU side were heckling and one even threw a mineral water bottle at Bo perasol. So understandably with Bo perasol being hot headed from the bone headed calls from the ref, he felt wronged and went after the guy who heckled the hardest. What I didn't like was araneta security not throwing out the fan immediately and moved too slow to create distance between Coach Perasol and the fan heckling fan wasn't even approached to stop all the shouting and heckling given that the game was over and the situation was escalating.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 02, 2013 at 12:34 AM
I think today was a good day for UAAP, two OTs the first game between UST and FEU then a nail biting second game between La Salle and Ateneo.

I was able to watch UST and FEUs double OT and the dying seconds of Jeron Teng's shot. Classic

Maybe somebody could shed light as to why that heckler got too personal with Bo Perasol?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Superman on Sep 02, 2013 at 12:47 AM
First to disclose, I'm from ateneo and i watched the game live. The fans from DLSU side were heckling and one even threw a mineral water bottle at Bo perasol. So understandably with Bo perasol being hot headed from the bone headed calls from the ref, he felt wronged and went after the guy who heckled the hardest. What I didn't like was araneta security not throwing out the fan immediately and moved too slow to create distance between Coach Perasol and the fan heckling fan wasn't even approached to stop all the shouting and heckling given that the game was over and the situation was escalating.

Thanks for mentioning this. Some fans (both teams) get too personal at times...most especially during DLSU-ADMU games...though as a coach the reaction was uncalled for...even if he was provoked...
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 02, 2013 at 12:53 AM
So it happened after the game going to the dugout?

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/09/01/13/ateneo-coach-confronts-fan-after-loss-la-salle

Akala ko there was a technical foul given which might have been a game changer for Ateneo? Si Bo na technical foul or a player?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Superman on Sep 02, 2013 at 01:03 AM
Bo got a T w/ about a minute left for an apparent non-call...stormed the court and shouted at the refs. Vosotros converted 2 FTs after...
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Superman on Sep 02, 2013 at 01:04 AM
https://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rappler.com%2Fsports%2Funiversity%2Fuaap%2F37876-perasol-heckler-jj-atayde-says-sorry&h=PAQEdoSZm&s=1
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Mr. Hankey on Sep 02, 2013 at 01:44 AM
Best article I've read that discusses the incident: http://ph.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/experts-blog/green-day-dlsu-stuns-ateneo-perasol-loses-plot-120945465.html
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Hitman on Sep 02, 2013 at 05:51 AM
Time and time again, wala namang napatunayan si Bo when it comes to coaching. Ewan ko ba bakit siya piniling kapalit ni Norman. That's what you get for getting a cheap coach.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: sardaukar on Sep 02, 2013 at 08:18 AM
First to disclose, I'm from ateneo and i watched the game live. The fans from DLSU side were heckling and one even threw a mineral water bottle at Bo perasol. So understandably with Bo perasol being hot headed from the bone headed calls from the ref, he felt wronged and went after the guy who heckled the hardest. What I didn't like was araneta security not throwing out the fan immediately and moved too slow to create distance between Coach Perasol and the fan heckling fan wasn't even approached to stop all the shouting and heckling given that the game was over and the situation was escalating.

I wasn't there and I'm from DLSU so take that into consideration when you read my comment. I don't know if the thing about the water bottles is true. If it is then whoever threw it should indeed have been thrown out by security. But from what I understand, yung hinabol niya, was merely heckling him (and not the same one who threw a bottle) and I don't believe you throw out a heckler, however noisy or pointed his comments become. You'd practically have to throw out the entire statium. On both sides.

Coaches always tell their players to ignore the crowd and concentrate on the game. All the more the coach should be above whatever comment came his way. He should have known better. And at this point, I suppose (hope) he already does.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 02, 2013 at 08:32 AM
Time and time again, wala namang napatunayan si Bo when it comes to coaching. Ewan ko ba bakit siya piniling kapalit ni Norman. That's what you get for getting a cheap coach.

The funny thing is ....... it's highly unlikely that Bo Perasol came at a cheap rate.

This is MVP - much like Danding, these cronies will throw money at all their endeavors.

====================================================================

FEU on a serious slide ...... that long break was absolute killer for them.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Sep 02, 2013 at 09:32 AM
I wasn't there and I'm from DLSU so take that into consideration when you read my comment. I don't know if the thing about the water bottles is true. If it is then whoever threw it should indeed have been thrown out by security. But from what I understand, yung hinabol niya, was merely heckling him (and not the same one who threw a bottle) and I don't believe you throw out a heckler, however noisy or pointed his comments become. You'd practically have to throw out the entire statium. On both sides.

Coaches always tell their players to ignore the crowd and concentrate on the game. All the more the coach should be above whatever comment came his way. He should have known better. And at this point, I suppose (hope) he already does.

Just to clarify, the water bottle being thrown happened after Coach Bo went after JJ Atayde. This was when coach Bo was being restrained and led to the dugout. The dlsu fan in section 312 was being pointed by fans from the Ateneo kaso there were no security around and when security did arrive (by his lonesome self) the situation was diffused by cooler heads prevailing on both sides. Buti nalang, or else the incident could have escalated quickly and turned violent.

Also, I agree with what you said. I did not like that he blew his top and went after a heckler. What I meant with the heckler (JJ Atayde) being thrown out was that it was clearly obvious during that point when coach Bo was already having a heated exchange should they have already stepped in and did not let it escalate further. They just let them exchange heated words with coach Bo being restrained only at that point and JJ Atayde slowly backing away and still shouting something (didn't hear what was being said).

Anyway, heckling is part of the game. All fans of all teams including ateneo, heckle and jeer at the opposing team - coaches and players should be able to hold their tempers and ignore the crowd.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: paolorenzo on Sep 02, 2013 at 10:17 AM
Di na kayo nasanay sa Ateneo-LaSalle games...  I miss the days we had to keep baseball bats at the trunk of the car.  Palibhasa bata at ang yayabang pa.  Pero kung rambol na, I'm sure kanya kanyang takbo rin yun.  :)

ADMU pala ako, and was pissed at how disorganized we are (again).  Welcome to the post-Black era.  Props to Vosotros and Teng.

Sana Chot or Olsen/Nash will be considered to coach for Ateneo.  The Champion coaches Banal and Black really do not have Ateneo roots  :-[.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: DVD_Freak on Sep 02, 2013 at 10:44 AM
Di na kayo nasanay sa Ateneo-LaSalle games...  I miss the days we had to keep baseball bats at the trunk of the car.  Palibhasa bata at ang yayabang pa.  Pero kung rambol na, I'm sure kanya kanyang takbo rin yun.  :)

ADMU pala ako, and was pissed at how disorganized we are (again).  Welcome to the post-Black era.  Props to Vosotros and Teng.

Sana Chot or Olsen/Nash will be considered to coach for Ateneo.  The Champion coaches Banal and Black really do not have Ateneo roots  :-[.

Fellow Atenean as well.  Oo nga bakit hindi coach na may school roots?  Is Bo Perasol ba connected with MVP like Black was?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: sardaukar on Sep 02, 2013 at 06:31 PM
“Sabi ko, hindi tama sa akin. Baka akala niya siguro player ako na pwede niyang sigaw-sigawan… Akala niya siguro pababayaan ko siya. May sinisigaw siya na hindi ko lang nagustuhan,” Perasol said.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/09/02/13/heckler-opens-incident-ateneo-coach

 :o
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 02, 2013 at 11:24 PM
I wonder what Commish Chito will do.

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: kiwimig on Sep 02, 2013 at 11:42 PM
I wonder what Commish Chito will do.



loyzaga will not do anything. for me, i don't really care whether he is sanctioned or not. i think the ateneo community is the one who really got the raw end of the deal with his actions. let them deal with him. by the way, i'm from la salle. sabi ko nga, move on move on lang pag may time. :)

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/loyzaga-wont-sanction-perasol-for-spat-with-fan

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 03, 2013 at 09:15 AM
Time and time again, wala namang napatunayan si Bo when it comes to coaching. Ewan ko ba bakit siya piniling kapalit ni Norman. That's what you get for getting a cheap coach.

Give the guy a chance. Cheap coach or Champion coach can only do so much.

It even took the PBA Grand Slam Coach Norman Black 3 years to win his first UAAP title for Ateneo and becoz of Ateneo's continuous prized recruits, Coach Norm was able to win 5 in a row for them.

This year, there is no prized recruits for Ateneo and all must remember that Ateneo started on the wrong foot w/o Ravena. Should Ravena be playing at the start of the season, i'm confident to say that Ateneo's standings will be safely at the TOP 3 spot now.

Just look at Nash Racela at FEU, cheers he got a sweep on the first round but is he to blame now that they are on a losing streak? Of course not!

Race to the Final 4 is very interesting with NU and DLSU getting its momentum with FEU still hanging on and UST playing with a Never Say Die spirit.

I feel Ateneo players will rally behind their coach and play even harder in all their succeeding games.
I also feel the whole Ateneo community will be in full support of their coach even after that incident.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Hitman on Sep 03, 2013 at 10:16 AM
Cheap attitude, cheap manners! Asal kanto! Sore loser!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 03, 2013 at 01:53 PM
Norman Black had his share of outbursts over refs but not at fans
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 04, 2013 at 03:45 PM
UAAP suspends Ateneo's Perasol for outburst

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/09/04/13/uaap-suspends-ateneos-perasol-outburst

I guess commisioner Chito is consistent and fair in a way. Any precedent of outbursts should result to this.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Superman on Sep 04, 2013 at 03:59 PM
JJ Atayde has been banned for the whole UAAP season as well...
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: kiwimig on Sep 04, 2013 at 05:10 PM
JJ Atayde has been banned for the whole UAAP season as well...

bawal na mag-heckle ang mga fans. :)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 04, 2013 at 07:42 PM
One game suspension for Coach Bo is fair enough, Commissioner Loyzaga has been consistent.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Superman on Sep 04, 2013 at 10:20 PM
bawal na mag-heckle ang mga fans. :)

Onga! :D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: onedown on Sep 05, 2013 at 08:25 AM
a fan banned? might as well play behind closed doors. hundreds [maybe thousands] of fans heckle the opposition in every game.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Hitman on Sep 05, 2013 at 09:50 AM
I don't see any sense in banning a fan just because of heckling. Sadyang pikon lang talaga si Bo! Eh bakit siya hindi ibanned for life too? BoBo talaga!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: vinci on Sep 05, 2013 at 10:25 AM
dati parang yung father ni nico salva na nakipagsagutan at hamunan kay ronald magtulis na ban din for the remainder of the season and umapela pa since last season na ni nico.  though di ko alam kung natuloy ba yun.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: DVD_Freak on Sep 05, 2013 at 10:37 AM
I think the fan being banned for heckling is fair.  Like freedom of speech, freedom to cheer or jeer is not absolute.  A line can be crossed even if it was just heckling.

Kahit sa NBA meron yan.  An Orlando Magic fan was banned for heckling Mutombo.  Even Wade's girlfriend was banned from sitting courtside from heckling. 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Sep 05, 2013 at 11:33 AM
dati parang yung father ni nico salva na nakipagsagutan at hamunan kay ronald magtulis na ban din for the remainder of the season and umapela pa since last season na ni nico.  though di ko alam kung natuloy ba yun.

Yep. Nico Salva's dad got into a shouting match with FEU's assistant coach Ronald Magtulis after the latter challenged Nico Salva to a fist fight and the dad stepped in. The appeal was not granted.

The UAAP has a history of banning fans from the venue once they step out of bounds. So JJ Atayde being banned for the rest of the season is normal.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: retro12195 on Sep 05, 2013 at 11:35 AM
I don't see any sense in banning a fan just because of heckling. Sadyang pikon lang talaga si Bo! Eh bakit siya hindi ibanned for life too? BoBo talaga!
;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: puffalan84 on Sep 05, 2013 at 12:37 PM

Yep. Nico Salva's dad got into a shouting match with FEU's assistant coach Ronald Magtulis after the latter challenged Nico Salva to a fist fight and the dad stepped in. The appeal was not granted.

The UAAP has a history of banning fans from the venue once they step out of bounds. So JJ Atayde being banned for the rest of the season is normal.
i remember the arwind santos incident against one la salle's team manager..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Sep 05, 2013 at 12:48 PM
i remember the arwind santos incident against one la salle's team manager..

Salgado ung family name. i forget the first name already. He has a lifetime ban.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mav14 on Sep 05, 2013 at 02:41 PM
Salgado ung family name. i forget the first name already. He has a lifetime ban.

Manny Salgado with the infamous "batok" incident.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 06, 2013 at 12:25 AM
Manny Salgado with the infamous "batok" incident.

Was this the hit and run incident?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: beknat on Sep 06, 2013 at 08:27 AM
pati lasalle na suspended the next season kasi may nalaman ang uaap board nun. ang alam ko yung isang player ng lasalle high school pa lang pero pinaglaro na sa college.tama ba?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: energizer_jc on Sep 06, 2013 at 03:56 PM
Yep. Nico Salva's dad got into a shouting match with FEU's assistant coach Ronald Magtulis after the latter challenged Nico Salva to a fist fight and the dad stepped in. The appeal was not granted.

The UAAP has a history of banning fans from the venue once they step out of bounds. So JJ Atayde being banned for the rest of the season is normal.

I think the ban on JJ was wrong. He merely thanked the coach for the win, although sarcastic, nothing more was said. The incident with Salva and Magtulis involved exchanging of words were both individuals wanted to have a fistfight.

Had Bo Perasol just went straight to the dugout, this would've not happened.

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Sep 06, 2013 at 04:19 PM
I think the ban on JJ was wrong. He merely thanked the coach for the win, although sarcastic, nothing more was said. The incident with Salva and Magtulis involved exchanging of words were both individuals wanted to have a fistfight.

Had Bo Perasol just went straight to the dugout, this would've not happened.



uhhh.. that's the story that appeared in the news about "thanking coach bo for the win" sarcastically. There was more to what JJ Atayde did which were presented in the board meeting by the UAAP. Also, inunahan na ni JJ Atayde ung ban on him this season. He said that he won't watch the games for the rest of the season.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: deist on Sep 06, 2013 at 04:31 PM

Kahit saan ko tingnan tong insidente mas malaking pagkakamali ni Bo Perasol. Hoping Ateneo would be wiser next time in picking a coach.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Sep 06, 2013 at 05:12 PM
Kahit saan ko tingnan tong insidente mas malaking pagkakamali ni Bo Perasol. Hoping Ateneo would be wiser next time in picking a coach.

No question as to Bo Perasol being in the wrong in this matter. I just wonder what's all the beef of people against Bo Perasol aside from this incident?

I originally wanted Alex Compton to be in the mix when the coaching search was being conducted.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: energizer_jc on Sep 06, 2013 at 05:19 PM
uhhh.. that's the story that appeared in the news about "thanking coach bo for the win" sarcastically. There was more to what JJ Atayde did which were presented in the board meeting by the UAAP. Also, inunahan na ni JJ Atayde ung ban on him this season. He said that he won't watch the games for the rest of the season.

I know there were other "things" but JJ is not the type who would say/do those things. We had a similar incident last year with Atenean Alumnus Andre Ibarra. He kept on heckling, specifically Joshua Webb, shout "ABNOY" even during the Almater Mater song.

Did you hear La Salle complain about him? Is he banned from the UAAP?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 06, 2013 at 06:04 PM
Usually pag ganyan fans na mismo ang naghahamonan ng away haha hindi players hehe

Heckling is part of the game kahit below the belt, panahon pa ni Tony Boy Espinosa na tinawag na unggoy ng mga Atenista
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Wiggum on Sep 08, 2013 at 06:47 PM
Got this from Wikipedia re UAAP tie-breaker rule in case of three teams ending up with the same win-loss record after the elims. Is this correct?

In case of three or more teams being tied, the team with the best head-to-head record usually possesses the best seeding, while the other teams will play an extra game to determine the second-best seeding.

FEU, NU and DLSU can end up with the same 10-4 record if they all win their last game.

But if NU and DLSU lose their final assignments, and ADMU or UST wins their last two, they (NU, DLSU and ADMU/UST) all end up with the same 9-5 record. I'm assuming FEU will beat UP, so it's likely they'll go up 10-4.

Ang gulo. :)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 08, 2013 at 07:56 PM
Ateneo and UST will still play each other so one of them will drop to a 6th loss which maybe the end of the season for the loser.
The only possible scenario is UE, UST and Ateneo with identical 8-6 for the 4th spot.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Wiggum on Sep 08, 2013 at 08:34 PM
^ UE is already out of the running at 5-7.

If NU, DLSU and FEU all end up at 10-4, I understand that NU has the best quotient, so DLSU and FEU will have a playoff for 2nd/3rd (if that rule from Wikipedia is correct).

If NU, DLSU and ADMU all end up at 9-5, the score of the NU-ADMU game will determine who has the best quotient. I think ADMU has to beat NU by at least 10 points so that DLSU gets the best quotient. Otherwise, it's NU who gets the best quotient.

If NU, DLSU and UST all end up at 9-5, I understand that NU has the best quotient, regardless of the score of the DLSU-UST game. Not sure if DLSU-UST will have to play again just to determine 3rd/4th.

We'll get a clearer picture of the Final 4 after the NU-ADMU game on Wed and the DLSU-UST game on Sat.

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 08, 2013 at 08:50 PM
^ UE is already out of the running at 5-7.

If NU, DLSU and FEU all end up at 10-4, I understand that NU has the best quotient, so DLSU and FEU will have a playoff for 2nd/3rd (if that rule from Wikipedia is correct).

If NU, DLSU and ADMU all end up at 9-5, the score of the NU-ADMU game will determine who has the best quotient. I think ADMU has to beat NU by at least 10 points so that DLSU gets the best quotient. Otherwise, it's NU who gets the best quotient.

If NU, DLSU and UST all end up at 9-5, I understand that NU has the best quotient, regardless of the score of the DLSU-UST game. Not sure if DLSU-UST will have to play again just to determine 3rd/4th.

We'll get a clearer picture of the Final 4 after the NU-ADMU game on Wed and the DLSU-UST game on Sat.



I stand corrected not knowing Ateneo beat UE today.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: sardaukar on Sep 09, 2013 at 09:23 AM
If NU, DLSU and FEU all end up at 10-4, I understand that NU has the best quotient, so DLSU and FEU will have a playoff for 2nd/3rd (if that rule from Wikipedia is correct).


I think this is true and has happened before. Bale ang mangyayari parang best of 3 ang laban ng 2nd and 3rd seed. Instead of simply twice to beat for 2nd seed.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: energizer_jc on Sep 09, 2013 at 01:07 PM
I think this is true and has happened before. Bale ang mangyayari parang best of 3 ang laban ng 2nd and 3rd seed. Instead of simply twice to beat for 2nd seed.

It'll be a virtual best of 3. :)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: elim on Sep 09, 2013 at 05:04 PM
I think DLSU will still go for the win. If the lose there is a chance that they will end up in 3rd. Sayang din yung twice to beat advantage.

IF DLSU wins and:

If ADMU loses to NU then its a must win vs UST.

If ADMU wins over NU they will enter the final 4 if they win or lose to UST by 3pts at the most.

IF ADMU wins over NU and:

DLSU wins over UST they will be 1st in the overall rankings (10-4) followed by FEU with a win over UP (10-4).

ADMU standing will be 8-5 while UST will be at 7-6 when they meet. UST has to win over ADMU with at least 5pts to take the 4th slot.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Wiggum on Sep 09, 2013 at 05:47 PM
Di na naubusan ng drama ang UAAP season na 'to:

UE seeks clarification of rule on suspended coaches; ADMU in danger of forfeiting its win (http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/325689/sports/campussports/uaap-ue-seeks-clarification-of-rule-for-suspended-coaches-after-ateneo-s-perasol-spotted-in-win)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: vinci on Sep 09, 2013 at 06:20 PM
malaking kaBoPerasolan yan kung maforfeit ang win nila dahil di nila alam may ganong rule pala.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: sardaukar on Sep 09, 2013 at 07:56 PM
It'll be a virtual best of 3. :)

Yes, that's what I said. :)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Sep 09, 2013 at 08:21 PM
"UAAP Rules, Section 12 #2 - The presence of a suspended coach, manager, assistant manager, statistician, scorers, masseurs, etc. and those listed as members of the team shall not be allowed in the bench or venue during the period of suspension. A violation of the condition of the suspension shall result in the forfeiture of the game where such suspended team official or member was found present."
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Sep 09, 2013 at 08:26 PM
UAAP Rules Section 12 on Sanctions #1 - A suspended athlete shall not be allowed to sit in the bench and its immediate vicinity during the period of suspension. A violation of the condition of the suspension shall result in the forfeiture of the game where such suspended athlete was found present.

A team has 24 hours to file a formal complaint from the game for this to become a violation.  If no complaint is filed, then the game will stand.

UNFORTUNATELY, UE filed a complaint :o
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: energizer_jc on Sep 09, 2013 at 11:18 PM
This leaves a bad taste.

http://bleachersbrew.blogspot.com/2013/09/ateneo-to-ask-uaap-to-look-into.html (http://bleachersbrew.blogspot.com/2013/09/ateneo-to-ask-uaap-to-look-into.html)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: leomarley on Sep 09, 2013 at 11:24 PM
This leaves a bad taste.

http://bleachersbrew.blogspot.com/2013/09/ateneo-to-ask-uaap-to-look-into.html (http://bleachersbrew.blogspot.com/2013/09/ateneo-to-ask-uaap-to-look-into.html)

problem with that is that those previous teams didn't file a complaint within 24 hrs. as mattia pointed out if no complaint has been filed within 24 hours lusot na yun. so wala rin lusot ang Ateneo dyan.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 09, 2013 at 11:33 PM
Yet more mud being thrown around in the UAAP ..... time for Comm. Chito Loyzaga to do his job and clear things out.

Definitely not a good way for any team to win, but I can't blame UE for protesting - their season is (was) on the line and their protest seems to be within the bounds of UAAP rules.

OT: UE is easily the heartbreak UAAP team of the past 2 decades ...... they've always had decent or great lineups (some very few exceptions) every season - yet they always fall short, usually going down in flames.

ADAMSON, NU & UP also have no championships to show for during that period, but these teams didn't enjoy the rosters that Bong Tan's teams usually have.


Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Wiggum on Sep 10, 2013 at 12:02 AM
This leaves a bad taste.

http://bleachersbrew.blogspot.com/2013/09/ateneo-to-ask-uaap-to-look-into.html (http://bleachersbrew.blogspot.com/2013/09/ateneo-to-ask-uaap-to-look-into.html)

Agree 100%, sir. The rebuttal could've just focused on what appears to be a similar violation committed by UE in the same game (player nga lang involved, which is obviously not as grave as the one committed by ADMU). But the rebuttal had to mention alleged violations committed by other teams, even if (i) ADMU was not even involved in some of the games where the alleged violations occurred, and (ii) ADMU's right to protest (insofar as their loss to DLSU last week is concerned) had already expired. Pati Juniors and Women's Divisions, dinamay rin. ???

Very interesting to monitor how the UAAP Board will resolve this on Thursday. I expect them to uphold ADMU's win if both teams will be considered at fault for violating the rule on suspensions in their game last Sunday.
Title: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: leomarley on Sep 10, 2013 at 02:06 PM

Very interesting to monitor how the UAAP Board will resolve this on Thursday. I expect them to uphold ADMU's win if both teams will be considered at fault for violating the rule on suspensions in their game last Sunday.

If they'll uphold admu's win then why bother having that rule if they're not going to follow it? As indicated earlier, teams have a 24hr window to protest. If no team protested UE's violation within 24hrs why bring it up? It's not UE's fault.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Wiggum on Sep 10, 2013 at 05:08 PM
If they'll uphold admu's win then why bother having that rule if they're not going to follow it? As indicated earlier, teams have a 24hr window to protest. If no team protested UE's violation within 24hrs why bring it up? It's not UE's fault.

I based my statement on the understanding that ADMU filed its rebuttal/protest regarding the violation of Olivares' suspension within the prescribed period for filing protests. Are there allegations that ADMU also fumbled here and failed to file its rebuttal/protest on time? I'm seeing comments online that the window for filing such protests is even longer at 48 hours.

So assuming both protests will be upheld by the UAAP Board (meaning both UE and ADMU are found to have violated the rules on suspended coaches/players), I was thinking maybe the forfeiture penalties would cancel each other out, and ADMU still gets the win. But based on this report, looks like a replay of that game is likely (if it will still have a bearing on the standings next week):

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/possibility-of-replay-raised-as-uaap-board-weighs-merits-of-ue-ateneo-motions (http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/possibility-of-replay-raised-as-uaap-board-weighs-merits-of-ue-ateneo-motions)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: sardaukar on Sep 11, 2013 at 08:58 AM
I'm not really a fan of forfeiting a game because of a technicality that doesn't really impact the game. We've been on the losing end of too many "boardroom wins". Things like this, the penalty should be fines or suspensions . But never loss of a game. Those should be decided on the court.

Katulad ng wrong uniform (whose penalty is also forfeiture of a win kung may mag protest after the game), dapat kung wala namang nakapansin during the game, pinapabayaan na yon. The rules need to be revisited.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Sep 11, 2013 at 11:11 AM
As the saying goes, "the law might be harsh, but it's the law" :)

If ever there will be a replay of the game between UE and ADMU, this will be an interesting watch.  At least, each team has a chance to win oncourt and not, as one said, in the board room. 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: deist on Sep 11, 2013 at 11:27 AM

There won't even be these discussions & arguments going around about forfeiture of games, rules for suspended coach & players etc IF coach Bo didn't attend the game last sunday or if he just stayed inside the dugout.

So after he wanted to attack a fan wherein he had to be restraint by at least 3 people, he then decided to attend the game even if he was suspended (for heaven's sake he coached in the PBA, he should've known that there must be a rule re suspended coaches or could've asked).

tsk tsk tsk now ask me again what's my "beef" against coach Bo.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: puffalan84 on Sep 11, 2013 at 12:51 PM
id like to see a rematch but we all know the result will just be the same.. no chance ang UE without their PG..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: elim on Sep 11, 2013 at 03:51 PM
^^+1 same point of view here. Yung sinasabi nila that there was permission given to him na pumunta is irrelevant (even if true). The rules are there, it's black and white. Suspended coaches are not allowed IN THE VENUE. I don't think that its subject to interpretation.
Title: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: leomarley on Sep 11, 2013 at 05:41 PM

^^+1 same point of view here. Yung sinasabi nila that there was permission given to him na pumunta is irrelevant (even if true). The rules are there, it's black and white. Suspended coaches are not allowed IN THE VENUE. I don't think that its subject to interpretation.

Exactly. It doesn't matter whether or not other teams violated the same policy. No one filed a complaint within the given time on those violations. What's in discussion is what Ateneo did and unfortunately for them UE filed a complaint and so that's the issue. Rules are rules.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 11, 2013 at 06:53 PM
So I guess Ateneans will cheer for La Salle on Saturday? ;D

NU is now assured of twice-to-beat advantage. They'll be No. 1 if La Salle wins on Saturday. They'll be No.2 f La Salle loses.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: energizer_jc on Sep 11, 2013 at 07:12 PM
Kinda weird but necessary if you want to keep your season alive. Hahahaha!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Wiggum on Sep 11, 2013 at 07:20 PM
^^ If DLSU loses on Saturday, won't there be an extra game between NU and FEU just to determine 1st/2nd?

Seems to me it's *okay* for DLSU to lose on Saturday. Worst case is they end up 3rd and needing to win two more against whoever the 2nd seed will be. Best case is they go into a virtual best-of-three with FEU, still needing to win two more games to make the Finals.

This assumes, of course, that the UAAP Board won't mete out forfeiture penalties tomorrow to all the teams that ADMU cited in its protest. :)

EDITED: Puwede pa pala mag-tie ang DLSU and UST at 9-5 - does this mean they need an extra game just to determine 3rd/4th? In which case, it's not *okay* for DLSU to lose on Saturday. :)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 11, 2013 at 07:37 PM
^^ If DLSU loses on Saturday, won't there be an extra game between NU and FEU just to determine 1st/2nd?

Nope. Quotient lang kasi seeding lang pinaguusapan. May playoff lang if the spot na pinaglalabanan ay may incentive. So yung ties for 2nd place at 4th place lang yung may playoff.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Wiggum on Sep 11, 2013 at 07:42 PM
Nope. Quotient lang kasi seeding lang pinaguusapan. May playoff lang if the spot na pinaglalabanan ay may incentive. So yung ties for 2nd place at 4th place lang yung may playoff.

EDITED: Thanks. This also answers my question if a playoff game is needed in case DLSU and UST end up tied at 9-5.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 11, 2013 at 09:45 PM
What's the point of insisting about the RULE that suspended players and coaches are not allowed inside the playing venue when their respective teams are playing?
Do their presence affect the game itself?
The suspended players certainly wont be playing and the suspended coaches wont be coaching inside the court (though suspended coaches can still relate instructions via a cellphone anyway).

Games are won inside the court and not all about those technicalities that are very annoying and embarassing for changing outcomes of a hard played game.

In my personal opinion, if no teams cheat about the legality of their players and coaches, JUST LET IT BE.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: leomarley on Sep 11, 2013 at 10:37 PM
then just abolish the rules if that's what you want. bale wala lang pala eh since technicality lang. why point at the rules for this problem eh hindi naman yun ang nagcause?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 11, 2013 at 11:10 PM
then just abolish the rules if that's what you want. bale wala lang pala eh since technicality lang. why point at the rules for this problem eh hindi naman yun ang nagcause?

No point arguing about the outcome due to technicalities.
If they wana set the rules straight, then dont start the game unless everything is clear.
State the protest before the start of the game.
Sayang namn un pinaghirapan ng mga players sa game then the losing team will just protest afterwards due to those technicalities.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: leomarley on Sep 11, 2013 at 11:27 PM
No point arguing about the outcome due to technicalities.
If they wana set the rules straight, then dont start the game unless everything is clear.
State the protest before the start of the game.
Sayang namn un pinaghirapan ng mga players sa game then the losing team will just protest afterwards due to those technicalities.

then again that's not the rules. it's not the complaining team's fault if the violating team doesn't know the rules or know it but just simply ignored it. again don't put the blame on the rules but to the party who violated it.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 11, 2013 at 11:49 PM
Like I said, winning on a technicality doesn't look good ...... but if the complaint has all basis, unpopular or not, it should be upheld.

From the looks of things (what is revealed in the papers so far), UE has enough to warrant a replay/reversal of its last loss against ADMU.

I'd prefer Comm. Loyzaga uphold an unpopular, but correct ruling rather than get swayed by "forces" into making a popular, albeit wrong one.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 12, 2013 at 08:33 AM
Like I said, winning on a technicality doesn't look good ...... but if the complaint has all basis, unpopular or not, it should be upheld.

From the looks of things (what is revealed in the papers so far), UE has enough to warrant a replay/reversal of its last loss against ADMU.

I'd prefer Comm. Loyzaga uphold an unpopular, but correct ruling rather than get swayed by "forces" into making a popular, albeit wrong one.

So what should Commissioner Loyzaga do?
He's been very consistent suspending players, referees and a coach.
With regards to that RULE stating suspended players and coaches are not allowed inside the venue, i think all the teams knew that RULE from the very start or ever since that RULE was drafted.
Suspended UE players like Mamie and Olivares, FEUs RR Garcia, DLSU Tomas Torres (even interviewed before the game against Ateneo) were seen on national TV as spectators.
Nobody got them out before the start of their respective team's game. Even their respective mother school team officials didnt mind their presence thus also ignoring that RULE and at this moment, should Comm Loyzaga look back into this and call for forfeiture of the winning team due to technicalities just to continue his consistency?

The Commissioner's decision can be over ruled by the board anyway so i dont think he can do so much about this.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: leomarley on Sep 12, 2013 at 08:44 AM
as stated before, they had a window to file a complaint but the teams didn't. unfortunately for Ateneo, UE filed a complaint within the window so you can't compare this violation to the others because NO ONE FILED A COMPLAINT.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: elim on Sep 12, 2013 at 10:52 AM
No point arguing about the outcome due to technicalities.
If they wana set the rules straight, then dont start the game unless everything is clear.
State the protest before the start of the game.
Sayang namn un pinaghirapan ng mga players sa game then the losing team will just protest afterwards due to those technicalities.

How can you state a protest in the beginning of the game if the person is not in plain sight until after the final buzzer? Bo was in the locker room where no one could see him. What would be his purpose on staying there? To give directions to players during half time and/or give an speech. Either way we cannot deny that he broke the rule. As to my point of view he tried to cheat by coaching at the background. You cant argue that he could have coached via cell phone because if you do play basketball you'll know that its next to pointless to give out plays without physically being there.

Please also read the rules that the coaches/staff that are suspended are not allowed in the venue it self while players are not allowed in the "direct vicinity of the bench" which is subject for interpretation.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Sep 12, 2013 at 12:06 PM
What sucks about the situation is that IF the UAAP Board (not the commissioner) votes for a replay and UE and Ateneo plays again, and should Ateneo win again it would still be win that won't be convince to people since UE's roy sumang is still not 100% from the injury he sustained in that game.

Also, leaving the decision to the UAAP BOARD is quite hard when the voting members have their own vested interest at play when they vote. Those who will vote today:-

FEU - final four contender
DLSU - final four contender
UST - final four contender
NU - final four contender
UP - not a final four contender

Those who cannot vote:-

ADMU
UE
ADU - season's host - will only vote if there is a tie.

http://www.inboundpass.com/2013/09/10/the-games-that-play-us-aint-it-fun/

First, there IS a rule that CLEARLY does state that any suspended team personnel (it is defined as any member of the team that is NOT an athlete, so it refers to coaches, managers, medics, masahistas, etc.) should NOT be in the game venue.
 
(In the absence of a free-to-share hard copy of any UAAP rulebook, you may look at the UAAP’s Rules & Regulations here on Inboundpass.com.)
 
Was coach Bo Perasol suspended? Yes.
Was he in the MOA Arena during Ateneo’s game against UE? Yes, he was at the dugout during the game and went to the playing area afterwards.
Does this, technically, constitute a violation of the aforementioned rule? I want to think of an eloquent rebuff, but the painful fact is YES IT DOES. As a person of authority in my school, I try to enlighten students about the importance of abiding by and respecting rules and regulations, and my initial stand on this issue is that Ateneo should face the music. If the win is forfeited, then so be it.
BUT THEN an article comes out that alleges how coach Bo was allowed by a member of the UAAP Board to be in the venue. Do the rules & regulations have any provisions that can shed light on this development? Oops. And who is this “person who granted permission” anyway? #ThePlotThickens
And then now the Eagles come out with their own counterpunch statement: How about the other UAAP personalities suspended throughout the course of the season? Maybe we should look into their presence in the “immediate vicinity of the bench,” too, right? (See article on Rick Olivares’s blog)
Were there, at different points in the season, suspended players who were seen/recorded present during their respective team’s games? Yes (Charles Mammie), yes (Lord Casajeros), yes (RR Garcia), and more yeses (Thomas Torres & Ralf Olivares).
Do these, technically, constitute violations of the rules & regulations for suspended athletes? Well, UNLESS the UAAP Board has a very strange interpretation of the clause, “A suspended athlete shall not be allowed to sit in the bench and its immediate vicinity during the period of suspension,” then I say YES. Of course, some quarters have said that before the Board can discuss matters on suspended players’ presence during games, there should be complaints filed (some even say such complaints have to be filed within 24 hours of the alleged violation). I have, however, not found any provision in the rules & regulations that support that (not sure if there any precedents, though).
So where do these things leave us UAAP fans and observers?
Well, folks, this is pretty much the UAAP equivalent of crap hitting the fan (which seems to be an annual thing like non-working holidays). Should the Board tackle UE’s “concern” about coach Bo, then I implore the Board to also discuss Ateneo’s “concerns” about the many suspended players. That is the only fair thing, after all, right? Whatever the consequences are, I just hope they will be meted out with, at the very least, no impression of any prejudice (HA! FAT CHANCE!).
In the unlikely event that both UE and Ateneo “get what they want,” then, well, I don’t even know where to begin with the possible consequences or sanctions. Will Ateneo and UE have a rematch? Will UE lose all its “contested” games (Charles Mammie & Lord Casajeros)? How about DLSU (Thomas Torres) and FEU (RR Garcia)?
Man, this is going to be dramatic, which is just par for the course in the UAAP.
Of course, coming from an Atenean’s perspective, I cannot help but entertain the surreal (or is it?) idea that maybe all these are part and parcel of a heavily convoluted series of developments culminating in Ateneo’s six-peat dream getting derailed.
From being THE big fish in the pond, to being fed on.
Ain’t it fun?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: elim on Sep 12, 2013 at 03:23 PM
Another thing that has to be considered in the matter. With the presence of Bo and Olivares which team benefited? Olivares couldn't couldn't have helped his team (being a player) while Bo could have coached his team during half time. In my opinion he could have thought that an advantage could have been gained with his attendance. I just find it "magulang"
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Sep 12, 2013 at 05:18 PM
Another thing that has to be considered in the matter. With the presence of Bo and Olivares which team benefited? Olivares couldn't couldn't have helped his team (being a player) while Bo could have coached his team during half time. In my opinion he could have thought that an advantage could have been gained with his attendance. I just find it "magulang"

Agree. He should have not been at the venue even if he secured the permission of a UAAP Board member /technical member.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 12, 2013 at 05:52 PM
The Ateneo win has not been forfeited. Instead, the board has suspended Bo Perasol one more game (vs UST) and warned Olivares. That's according to Inquirer Sports.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: sardaukar on Sep 12, 2013 at 05:52 PM
No forfeitures, but Perasol to serve his suspension versus UST (http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/326206/sports/campussports/uaap-no-forfeitures-but-perasol-to-serve-his-suspension-versus-ust)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: deist on Sep 12, 2013 at 06:12 PM

IMO it's a fair decision.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 12, 2013 at 06:14 PM
Solomonic decision, IMHO. Well done, commish chito.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 12, 2013 at 07:57 PM
Solomonic decision, IMHO. Well done, commish chito.

It was the UAAP Board that made the decision, not Chito Loyzaga. The complaints were addressed to the UAAP Board and the commissioner doesn't rule on matters that didn't happen on the playing court.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: energizer_jc on Sep 13, 2013 at 12:33 AM
This what Palou did after:

Ateneo wants La Salle reps out of UAAP Board

By Camille B. Naredo, ABS-CBNnews.com
Posted at 09/12/2013 7:41 PM | Updated as of 09/12/2013 7:56 PM

MANILA, Philippines – Ateneo board representative Ricky Palou asked for the removal of La Salle representatives Henry Atayde and Edwin Reyes from the UAAP Board during their meeting on Thursday, claiming that they are not qualified for the position.

In an interview with ABS-CBNnews.com, Palou confirmed that he pushed for the removal of Atayde and Reyes from the UAAP Board.

“If you look at the rules, they are not qualified to be UAAP Board members,” Palou said. “The rules say that each university will be entitled to two board members. One must be an athletic director or a PE director, and the second board member must be a professor or a member of the administration.”

“Atayde and Reyes are consultants,” he said.

But Atayde, in an exclusive interview with ABS-CBNnews.com, stressed that both he and Reyes were qualified for the position and have been approved by the Board at the start of the season.

“I am a sports marketing director for the Office of Sports Development, and I am also the president of the World Union of Former La Sallian Students. I am a sports consultant for La Salle Green Hills,” Atayde told ABS-CBNnews.com.

According to Atayde, Reyes “goes to the office three times a week and plans out fundraising activities for DLSU.”

Atayde pointed out that they are following the rules, since he comes from the sports office, while Reyes is a member of the administration.

When told that Atayde insisted that he and Reyes were qualified to be board members, Palou said: “That’s a lie. That’s a big lie.”

“I asked them before I brought this topic up, and they said that they’re consultants,” he said.

The UAAP Board did not act on Palou’s motion. Instead, UAAP president Fr. Max Rendon of Adamson University will convene the presidents of the other member schools in a meeting next Sunday to discuss the matter, as well as the other issues that have plagued the league in Season 76.

When asked if he plans to continue to push for the La Salle representatives' removal from the league board, Palou answered: "Of course."
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: brainwashed on Sep 13, 2013 at 01:32 AM
This what Palou did after:

Ateneo wants La Salle reps out of UAAP Board

By Camille B. Naredo, ABS-CBNnews.com
Posted at 09/12/2013 7:41 PM | Updated as of 09/12/2013 7:56 PM

MANILA, Philippines – Ateneo board representative Ricky Palou asked for the removal of La Salle representatives Henry Atayde and Edwin Reyes from the UAAP Board during their meeting on Thursday, claiming that they are not qualified for the position.

In an interview with ABS-CBNnews.com, Palou confirmed that he pushed for the removal of Atayde and Reyes from the UAAP Board.

“If you look at the rules, they are not qualified to be UAAP Board members,” Palou said. “The rules say that each university will be entitled to two board members. One must be an athletic director or a PE director, and the second board member must be a professor or a member of the administration.”

“Atayde and Reyes are consultants,” he said.

...

This is what happens when you don't let sleeping dogs lie.

In any organization, there are rules and policies that everyone simply ignore or loosely follow. There are rules and policies that everyone ignore because no one believes in them. There are rules and policies that everyone loosely follow for the simple reason that leeway is being given to the other person. In other words, there are rules, and there are rules! I guess if the other university board members are willing to explore the world of technicalities, then Ricky Palou would be more than willing to meet them head-on.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Sep 13, 2013 at 10:25 AM
This is what happens when you don't let sleeping dogs lie.

In any organization, there are rules and policies that everyone simply ignore or loosely follow. There are rules and policies that everyone ignore because no one believes in them. There are rules and policies that everyone loosely follow for the simple reason that leeway is being given to the other person. In other words, there are rules, and there are rules! I guess if the other university board members are willing to explore the world of technicalities, then Ricky Palou would be more than willing to meet them head-on.

Wow! nicely put. I thought i was the only one who thought that way. A line from a song popped into my head - Fall out boy's "Sugar, we're going down swinging".

May pinaghuhugutan yan and it's not because of this just one issue in basketball. All the shenanigans just came to a head and it came to this. Atayde dared Palou, and he got it.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: elim on Sep 13, 2013 at 10:37 AM
How about this "board member" who gave permission to Bo to be at the venue? Should this person be named and removed as well?

Just to declare, Im from DLSU but would still like the ADMU team to get to the final four. I like the team except for the coach.

Next question is why go after DLSU? Isn't it that UE was the one filed the complaint?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: elim on Sep 13, 2013 at 10:43 AM
Agree. He should have not been at the venue even if he secured the permission of a UAAP Board member /technical member.

I appreciate it when people see things objectively and not try to cover up mistakes for their groups advantage. Thank you bro quest for this. :)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Sep 13, 2013 at 11:08 AM
How about this "board member" who gave permission to Bo to be at the venue? Should this person be named and removed as well?

Just to declare, Im from DLSU but would still like the ADMU team to get to the final four. I like the team except for the coach.

Next question is why go after DLSU? Isn't it that UE was the one filed the complaint?

It's not just the basketball issue why Ricky Palou is going after DLSU reps. Let's just say that voting on a couple of issues UAAP wide not just limited to basketball (Eligibility, forfeitures, bans, etc.) wherein Ateneo and DLSU were on opposite sides and that yesterday DLSU tried to cash in the favors they dished out to the other schools for voting the way they did on those issues and tried to pull something.

Also, Henry Atayde resented the decision of having JJ Atayde for being banned for the season (when JJ atayde himself voluntarily said he won't watch the games this season - correct me if i'm wrong here) and wanted the ban reversed.

There are a lot of issues, basta as what sir brainwashed said this is what happens when you don't let sleeping dogs lie.

Think of the UAAP Board in terms of the game of thrones. Each school has their own vested interest and their vote on particular issues are not objective most of the time and they would seek alliances / favors / scratch your back you scratch mine when the time comes. Unfortunately, yesterday when DLSU decided to cash in the favor with the other members it didn't go their way and they got exposed and now Palou is calling them out on it.

For me useless ung elevating issues / overturning the decision of the commissioner by running to the UAAP Board.

PS. also for the board member who gave permission, i tried asking but wasn't given a name yet. haha. Basta, Bo only went to the venue because he got permission and the numerous observation that suspended players were at the games / immediate vicinity and that rule wasn't really imposed coz' their presence would not really affect the game and nobody really invokes that rule. Also, UE didn't protest the win but only asked for "clarification" on the rule by the prodding of some other school. haha.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: elim on Sep 13, 2013 at 11:19 AM
thanks for the info bro. I thought it was just a simple case of what happened recently. It has a deeper back story pala.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Sep 13, 2013 at 11:51 AM
thanks for the info bro. I thought it was just a simple case of what happened recently. It has a deeper back story pala.

All I wish for is to let the players/team win or lose it on the court. the league is too commercialized already.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: gaol on Sep 13, 2013 at 12:20 PM
It's not just the basketball issue why Ricky Palou is going after DLSU reps. Let's just say that voting on a couple of issues UAAP wide not just limited to basketball (Eligibility, forfeitures, bans, etc.) wherein Ateneo and DLSU were on opposite sides and that yesterday DLSU tried to cash in the favors they dished out to the other schools for voting the way they did on those issues and tried to pull something.

Also, Henry Atayde resented the decision of having JJ Atayde for being banned for the season (when JJ atayde himself voluntarily said he won't watch the games this season - correct me if i'm wrong here) and wanted the ban reversed.

There are a lot of issues, basta as what sir brainwashed said this is what happens when you don't let sleeping dogs lie.

Think of the UAAP Board in terms of the game of thrones. Each school has their own vested interest and their vote on particular issues are not objective most of the time and they would seek alliances / favors / scratch your back you scratch mine when the time comes. Unfortunately, yesterday when DLSU decided to cash in the favor with the other members it didn't go their way and they got exposed and now Palou is calling them out on it.

For me useless ung elevating issues / overturning the decision of the commissioner by running to the UAAP Board.

PS. also for the board member who gave permission, i tried asking but wasn't given a name yet. haha. Basta, Bo only went to the venue because he got permission and the numerous observation that suspended players were at the games / immediate vicinity and that rule wasn't really imposed coz' their presence would not really affect the game and nobody really invokes that rule. Also, UE didn't protest the win but only asked for "clarification" on the rule by the prodding of some other school. haha.

I wonder what school prodded UE to "ask for clarification" ....
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: elim on Sep 13, 2013 at 02:30 PM
Highly probable that its from the school where the above the rules "you can go to the game even if you're suspended" board member has a beef with. 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: elim on Sep 13, 2013 at 02:32 PM
All I wish for is to let the players/team win or lose it on the court. the league is too commercialized already.

+1^

Just curious quest, was it confirmed that the request for clarification of UE came from a different school?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 14, 2013 at 06:39 PM
La Salle sweeps the 2nd round so NU will be No. 1. FEU and La Salle will have a playoff for the 2nd seed. UST and Ateneo on the 18th will be a knockout match.

Cheerdance naman bukas. At least may chance na may mapanalunan ang UP. ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Superman on Sep 14, 2013 at 08:07 PM
Virtually a best of three for DLSU and FEU. Animo!

Grudge match between ADMU and UST for 4th place on the 18th...
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: energizer_jc on Sep 15, 2013 at 01:58 AM
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Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 18, 2013 at 07:32 PM
Ateneo bows out from the Final 4.
Great game by UST. I hope they can beat NU twice and hopwfully play DLSU for the Finals para Teng vs Teng.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 18, 2013 at 07:48 PM
Ateneo bows out from the Final 4.
Great game by UST. I hope they can beat NU twice and hopwfully play DLSU for the Finals para Teng vs Teng.

there was a point in time that NU is the whipping boys of the league much like UP, pero ngayon sila na ang may twice to beat advantage, ang bilis tlaga ng panahon.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: puffalan84 on Sep 18, 2013 at 07:50 PM
I like FEU on this year's F4.. DLSU may be the hottest team, but FEU's backcourt is/ will be unstoppable.. just my opinion.. 

btw alvin Teng has done a great job teaching his kids to be sport and play with all heart..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Sep 18, 2013 at 08:25 PM
NU - Sy of SM
DLSU - Danding Cojuanco
UST - Lucio Tan

Who is the god-father for FEU?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 18, 2013 at 08:30 PM
No doubt NU is gonna be a very tough team to beat twice in the Final 4 but still the Jarencio inspired UST Tigers will play their hearts out challenging the Bulldogs.
The virtua Best of 3 series between FEU & DLSU is another exciting series to watch. I like Terence Romeo but Jerone Teng is playing excellent basketball in the last few games.
Sweeper of the 1st round vs Sweeper of the 2nd round.
My fearless forecast: DLSU vs NU for the Finals
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 18, 2013 at 08:30 PM
I like FEU on this year's F4.. DLSU may be the hottest team, but FEU's backcourt is/ will be unstoppable.. just my opinion.. 

btw alvin Teng has done a great job teaching his kids to be sport and play with all heart..

IMO FEU fans should be wary ...... they do have the best backcourt, but both Garcia & (especially) Romeo has past tendencies to flip the switch and crash during the big games.

This Final 4 will be Romeo's one big chance ...... win and he'll validate that MVP, skyrocket his GILAS/PBA stock and more importantly, slay past epic failures ...... lose, he'll still be the trigger-happy, ball-hogging superstar.

DLSU is very dangerous as its in that enviable position of PEAKING at the right time. They're rolling and everyone looks confident during clutch moments.

NU is a question mark for me ....... the bright lights and attention can be killer to traditionally losing teams, suddenly thrust in the top seeds.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: puffalan84 on Sep 18, 2013 at 08:39 PM
i agree on your NU remark bro, i picked them to be this year's champ before the season started but watching parks, his inconsistency might kill them..

@cooltoys, FEU i think is owned by one of phils. richest families, baka di na nila kailangan ng support.. makikita mo rin sa jersey bro kung sino mga financiers..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 18, 2013 at 08:47 PM
plus the previous showing of UST during big games, they just thrive in winning during big games.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: kiwimig on Sep 18, 2013 at 09:34 PM
NU - Sy of SM
DLSU - Danding Cojuanco
UST - Lucio Tan

Who is the god-father for FEU?

FEU is a family business of the Montinolas. They have been active in the UAAP Men's Basketball, through Anton Montinola, for quite awhile now. I'm not sure but I think Anton is also from Ateneo.  Also, I think Lucio Tan is connected with UE but not sure if he really gives them enough funding.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: beknat on Sep 19, 2013 at 02:22 PM
NU - Sy of SM
DLSU - Danding Cojuanco
UST - Lucio Tan

Who is the god-father for FEU?

ARWIND SANTOS.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Sep 19, 2013 at 05:04 PM
Watched the game.  The defending champs made a good run in the 3rd but UST, despite some last minute lapses, deserved to win this one.  Congrats to my Thomasian wife ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: garee on Sep 20, 2013 at 09:25 AM
how about Teng vs Teng battle for 3rd...hehehe
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: beknat on Sep 20, 2013 at 09:29 AM
Romeo+MVP=Champ!

GO TAMS!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: deist on Sep 20, 2013 at 09:39 AM

It was a good knock out game, hats off to Ateneo for not giving up and putting up a good fight till the dying seconds. I like the Newsome-Ravena combo. I hope Newsome gets a bigger role offensive wise next year, he can definitely play at both ends.

Bilib din ako sa Teng boys, walang kapa-kapatid kapag nasa court & both competitive though for me mas angat ang game ni Jeron & can still be polished. I agree with the earlier posts, DLSU is peaking at the right time. This is gonna be an exciting final 4 this year with no particular team having a very definitive edge for me  :)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 20, 2013 at 02:46 PM
UST-FEU Championship anyone?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 20, 2013 at 03:38 PM
UST-FEU Championship anyone?

I don't care who the protagonists will be ....... as long as UST wins.  ;D

Seriously, there's no monster team this season, unlike the past few ones wherein ADMU was heavily favored due to its loaded lineups ....... hence, any Finals match-up this year, is almost guaranteed to be close.

Right now, I'd give the slight edge to DLSU over the rest of the F4 cast ...... like I posted earlier, they are peaking at the right time - something very hard to contend with during the semis/Finals.

I feel that NU (Parks, especially) will cave in to pressure, either in the F4 or the Finals.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: -sniper- on Sep 20, 2013 at 03:49 PM
I don't care who the protagonists will be ....... as long as UST wins.  ;D

+10000000 ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 20, 2013 at 05:20 PM
I don't care who the protagonists will be ....... as long as UST wins.  ;D

Seriously, there's no monster team this season, unlike the past few ones wherein ADMU was heavily favored due to its loaded lineups ....... hence, any Finals match-up this year, is almost guaranteed to be close.

Right now, I'd give the slight edge to DLSU over the rest of the F4 cast ...... like I posted earlier, they are peaking at the right time - something very hard to contend with during the semis/Finals.

I feel that NU (Parks, especially) will cave in to pressure, either in the F4 or the Finals.


same here sir, im a good friend of Udoy Belmonte, we are batchmates both from Engineering batch 92. I miss those days tsk tsk tsk. sana the trend of UST winning big games will continue.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: frequenzy on Sep 20, 2013 at 05:22 PM
Masyado na talaga na politika ang UAAP!

Cayetano slams UAAP schools' 'boycott' of swimming events where Bartolome is entered
http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/cayetano-slams-uaap-schools-boycott-of-swimming-events-where-bartolome-is-entered
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 20, 2013 at 07:33 PM
I like UST. I simply missed watching the Jaworski led never say die Ginebra teams.
Coach Pido has inherit that never say die attitude and completely implimented to his team.
Masarap panuorin ang UST but i hope they cant match up with the Bulldogs and beat them twice.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Sep 21, 2013 at 12:12 AM
http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/dong-vergeire-ex-national-cage-coach-passes-away-v02 (http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/dong-vergeire-ex-national-cage-coach-passes-away-v02)

Rest in peace to a great coach and a dear friend.  Coach Dong was my classmate in grade school at San Beda.

An ex-De La Salle Green Archer, Vergeire is also remembered as the coach responsible for giving St. Benilde its first and only NCAA title in 2000. He was also part of Aric del Rosario's coaching staff during the championship run of University Santo Tomas in the UAAP in the mid-90s.

Dong is 47 years old.  Life is short.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 21, 2013 at 05:16 AM
RIP Dong Vergeire ....... a fixture on Aric Del Rosario's staff during those glory years.

Life is indeed short.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: sardaukar on Sep 21, 2013 at 09:55 AM
Bilib din ako sa Teng boys, walang kapa-kapatid kapag nasa court & both competitive though for me mas angat ang game ni Jeron & can still be polished.

Natawa ako in their last game, Jeric made his first free throw and Jeron wanted to give him a high five. Hindi pinansin ni Jeric. Ngiti lang si Jeron, hehe.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: kiwimig on Sep 21, 2013 at 02:45 PM
jeron was wearing a yellow shirt that said "king tiger" at the ust-ateneo game as well.  :)
 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Sep 21, 2013 at 06:15 PM
jeron was wearing a yellow shirt that said "king tiger" at the ust-ateneo game as well.  :)
 

Correction, it was a shirt saying... THE POTENT KING TIGER JERIC TENG.

Probably to put out the message that he was not an impotent king tiger? =))

Hopefully NU wins the championship this year as a fitting farewell for BRP leaving for the pros next year. this is their best chance in years to get the championship. Unless of course, their import arroga improves dramatically and becomes more efficient than mbe then they have a better chance next year (on second thought, next year might be DLSU's banner year in Basketball).
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: puffalan84 on Sep 21, 2013 at 06:18 PM
oh romeo stop killing your team..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 21, 2013 at 07:15 PM
oh romeo stop killing your team..

Why put the blame on Romeo?

DLSU played a solid game. They played tough when FEU was fighting back strong in the last few minutes of the game.

Cruz fumbled a pass from Romeo clearly intimidated by AVO.
RR Garicia missed a lay up and a trey in succeeding plays.
LA Revilla's trey in the closing seconds was clearly the final nail on the coffin for FEU.

Breaks of the game went to DLSU in game 1.

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: puffalan84 on Sep 21, 2013 at 07:28 PM
too many forced shots in first half, mahirap maghabol against teams with big men.. rr was setting their shooters, romeo was setting up for himself puro isolation.. great job by dlsu, especially revilla on both ends..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: rukawakaide1721 on Sep 21, 2013 at 08:20 PM
but, still romeo bags the MVP Award... (http://www.pba-online.net/basketball/uaap/FEUs-Terrence-Romeo-is-UAAP-Season-76-MVP/31105/)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: puffalan84 on Sep 21, 2013 at 10:05 PM
but, still romeo bags the MVP Award... (http://www.pba-online.net/basketball/uaap/FEUs-Terrence-Romeo-is-UAAP-Season-76-MVP/31105/)


 he deserved it..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Sep 22, 2013 at 09:13 AM
(http://images3a.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp73492%3Enu%3D3268%3E%3A7%3B%3E335%3EWSNRCG%3D394845926932%3Bnu0mrj)

Just sharing this old classic picture of what most basketball forums voted as the strongest high school basketball lineup of ALL TIME.  This team, made up Paras, Magsanoc, Esplana, Pumaren, De Joya, Altamirano among others, beat their opponents by a whopping average of 30 pts or more. 

Parang Dream Team sa Barcelona!

ps. the late Coach Dong Vergeire was part of that great team
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: sardaukar on Sep 22, 2013 at 11:51 AM
Natawa ko that someone's designation is "scorer". :)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 22, 2013 at 02:52 PM
(http://images3a.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp73492%3Enu%3D3268%3E%3A7%3B%3E335%3EWSNRCG%3D394845926932%3Bnu0mrj)

Just sharing this old classic picture of what most basketball forums voted as the strongest high school basketball lineup of ALL TIME.  This team, made up Paras, Magsanoc, Esplana, Pumaren, De Joya, Altamirano among others, beat their opponents by a whopping average of 30 pts or more. 

Parang Dream Team sa Barcelona!

ps. the late Coach Dong Vergeire was part of that great team

That Bedan Team beat our high school team by over 40 pts.
They were excellent with their 2-2-1 trapping press with Dindo, Ronnie, Eric, Dong, Gerry up front and Paras manning the paint down low.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Sep 22, 2013 at 05:30 PM
UST pouring it on.  At the rate this game is going, unless NU makes a huge run and UST makes some mistakes, the Growling Tigers will take this game.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: nbc on Sep 22, 2013 at 06:33 PM
Any updates on  the UST - NU game?

nbc
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: deist on Sep 22, 2013 at 06:43 PM
UST won,it was a physical game with Uste taking the lead early on & never looked back.some scary moment when Ray Parks fell in the 4th & injured his shooting hand,hope he can play next game w/c is on friday.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: nbc on Sep 22, 2013 at 06:58 PM
Cool, thanks. :)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: leomarley on Sep 22, 2013 at 08:17 PM
Go USTe! Black gold, black white!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: pongpdvd on Sep 22, 2013 at 08:45 PM
game-turning point is yung missed dunk ni Mbe, and 3-point shot Teng...
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Sep 22, 2013 at 09:01 PM
game-turning point is yung missed dunk ni Mbe, and 3-point shot Teng...

Mbe also missed two crucial free throws that could have reduced the lead to 5 pts yata.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 22, 2013 at 09:02 PM
....... Right now, I'd give the slight edge to DLSU over the rest of the F4 cast ...... like I posted earlier, they are peaking at the right time - something very hard to contend with during the semis/Finals.

I feel that NU (Parks, especially) will cave in to pressure, either in the F4 or the Finals.


This guy seems to have gotten it right ..... so far.  ;)

Seriously, UST played with a lot of urgency, while NU played passively during that 1st half.

Kudos to Pido Jarencio - he has never been (never will be) a tactical coach, but it's time's like these that some old-school motivation helps a lot ...... UST played with swagger, NU was like that deer caught in the headlights.

The good news for NU, there's still one more game ..... no one's giving them the championship, Parks and company needs to play hard all game long this FRI.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 23, 2013 at 04:25 PM
Pido never been and will never be a tactical coach?
Sorry to disagree but all the years he has coached the Tigers, UST has always been a contender.
He has been doin a fair share of his job and what i like about his coaching style is similar to the BIG J, "Laban!" "Never Say Die" old school but effective becoz of proper motivations to get the best out of his players.
Should UST upsets NU this coming Friday, i hope they win it all in the Finals.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: vinci on Sep 23, 2013 at 04:45 PM
Sorry to disagree but all the years he has coached the Tigers, UST has always been a contender.
He has been doin a fair share of his job and what i like about his coaching style is similar to the BIG J, "Laban!" "Never Say Die" old school but effective becoz of proper motivations to get the best out of his players.

looks exactly what newwaveboy is sayin.

Sana DLSU - UST sa finals.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: puffalan84 on Sep 23, 2013 at 05:04 PM
i know its uaap's time and only few follow ncaa.. but if you get a chance to see Ncaa, try to watch perpetual's baloria.. one of the best college players right now.. go letran..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 23, 2013 at 05:13 PM
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/09/23/13/nus-parks-likens-ferrer-ust-detroit-bad-boys

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 23, 2013 at 05:17 PM
Pido never been and will never be a tactical coach?
Sorry to disagree but all the years he has coached the Tigers, UST has always been a contender.
He has been doin a fair share of his job and what i like about his coaching style is similar to the BIG J, "Laban!" "Never Say Die" old school but effective becoz of proper motivations to get the best out of his players.
Should UST upsets NU this coming Friday, i hope they win it all in the Finals.

if its similar to the Big J, then its not tactical indeed
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 23, 2013 at 05:21 PM
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/09/23/13/nus-parks-likens-ferrer-ust-detroit-bad-boys



chess anyone?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 23, 2013 at 05:28 PM
Pido never been and will never be a tactical coach?
Sorry to disagree but all the years he has coached the Tigers, UST has always been a contender.
He has been doin a fair share of his job and what i like about his coaching style is similar to the BIG J, "Laban!" "Never Say Die" old school but effective becoz of proper motivations to get the best out of his players.
Should UST upsets NU this coming Friday, i hope they win it all in the Finals.

Exactly what I said bro ...... I never said that Pido was an inept coach.

I said that he wasn't a tactical coach (and never will be), since he doesn't rely much on the X's and O's ..... he's old school, relying mostly on "lakas nang loob" much like the coaches closest to his playing career e.g. Jaworski, Chua, Aric, etc. - and there's nothing wrong with old school as long as you get the results, like what Pido has shown time and again.

In many ways, a much-heralded Yeng Guiao isn't a tactician as well. He has always played a free-wheeling / motion offense where there isn't a designated shooter ...... any one of his 5 players can shoot the ball, as long as it's a good shot.

If there's one coach that best personifies "palakasan nang loob" and getting the most out of his players (stars or scrubs); it's Yeng Guiao.


Win or lose against NU, Pido has done a great job this season ..... even Aric Del Rosario (who has revived his NCAA team) would be proud.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: ArtMusic on Sep 23, 2013 at 06:03 PM
(http://images3a.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp73492%3Enu%3D3268%3E%3A7%3B%3E335%3EWSNRCG%3D394845926932%3Bnu0mrj)

Just sharing this old classic picture of what most basketball forums voted as the strongest high school basketball lineup of ALL TIME.  This team, made up Paras, Magsanoc, Esplana, Pumaren, De Joya, Altamirano among others, beat their opponents by a whopping average of 30 pts or more. 

Parang Dream Team sa Barcelona!

ps. the late Coach Dong Vergeire was part of that great team

I remember someone told me... Pag-naglaro daw tong team at hindi ka nakapanood, Hindi daw tinatanong kung sino nanalo.  Ang tanong daw ilan ang lamang?  They never lost any game for the whole year in the ncaa or any other league.

They were also the (almost) same group that gave UP the first and only UAAP Basketball Championship.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Sep 25, 2013 at 06:11 PM
71-68. with that DLSU enters the finals! I'm not sure if this is true but since 1994 the finals has never been without DLSU or ADMU.

It might be a teng vs. teng affair in the finals.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: deist on Sep 25, 2013 at 07:20 PM
DLSU is back to the Finals via 9 game winning streak.congrats!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 25, 2013 at 07:27 PM
Mas OK if Teng vs Teng para si Papa at Mama Teng will stay neutral sa mga physical contacts in the games.

GO USTE!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: leomarley on Sep 25, 2013 at 09:54 PM
UST vs La Salle para balik 90's uli. ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 26, 2013 at 01:17 AM
found this, ang haba ng video for last 2 mins.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/video/sports/09/25/13/watch-la-salle-chokes-feu-last-2-mins

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: nbc on Sep 27, 2013 at 06:41 PM
Was the UST - NU game today?

nbc
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: vinci on Sep 27, 2013 at 06:43 PM
Was the UST - NU game today?

nbc

bukas pa bro.
Title: Re: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: nbc on Sep 27, 2013 at 06:44 PM
bukas pa bro.

Thanks. :)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: leomarley on Sep 27, 2013 at 08:29 PM
Go USTe!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: nbc on Sep 28, 2013 at 12:12 PM
What time is the game?

nbc
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 28, 2013 at 12:36 PM
What time is the game?

nbc

Coverage starts at 3:30pm with pre-game analysis and stuff. Game starts at 4pm.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: anya618 on Sep 28, 2013 at 12:36 PM
Teng ‘anticipated’ Romeo’s ‘wet’ gesture (http://sports.inquirer.net/121373/teng-anticipated-romeos-wet-gesture)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpWsZSwh1B8
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: nbc on Sep 28, 2013 at 12:40 PM
Coverage starts at 3:30pm with pre-game analysis and stuff. Game starts at 4pm.

Thanks. I still have time to do my grocery shopping. hehe.

:)  nbc
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 28, 2013 at 06:11 PM
It's UST vs DLSU for the Finals!
Teng vs Teng for the GOLD!

UST just made history as the only 4th seed so far to beat the #1 seed twice since the final 4 format was introduced.
Kudos to Coach Pido, and his UST Fearless Growling TIGERS!
Coach Pido may not be or never will be recognized as a Tactical Coach but certainly not a doubt he coaches with his HEART.

I'm beginning to like Kevin Ferrer. Under the watchful eyes and guidance of Coach Pido, this lanky forward is playing physically tough both on offense and defense despite his thin frame.
May Tapang, May Yabang, May PUSO.
I can now include him to my future Gilas Team w/c includes Jerone Teng, Ray Parks Jr, Keifer Ravena, Terrence Romeo, and Roi Sumang.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: nbc on Sep 28, 2013 at 06:19 PM
I have to agree with you, bro steelcrazy.

For a really thin and lanky guy, Ferrer played really tough. He wasn't backing down from Parks and actually succeeded in intimidating him. His "tapang" was on both sides of the court... defensive and offensive.

UST needed his intensity.

nbc
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: deist on Sep 28, 2013 at 06:20 PM
Congrats UST! You just have to love coach Pido, big heart, all heart coaching.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: jao143 on Sep 28, 2013 at 06:25 PM
Go USTe!!!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 28, 2013 at 08:26 PM
Congrats UST! You just have to love coach Pido, big heart, all heart coaching.

Yes Coach Pido's intensity brought the best out of his players.
Un mga fundamentals and scientific coaching techniques, all coaches can learn by studying and attending seminars locally or abroad then relate them to his team/players but not all coaches succeed in bringing the best out of his players specially in the crucial games.

All coaches have game plans preparing his team for battle against different opponents but during the game it's still how good a coach motivates his players to perform to the highest level and never give up till the final buzzer.

I hope UST win it all.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Sep 29, 2013 at 11:37 AM
Yes Coach Pido's intensity brought the best out of his players.
Un mga fundamentals and scientific coaching techniques, all coaches can learn by studying and attending seminars locally or abroad then relate them to his team/players but not all coaches succeed in bringing the best out of his players specially in the crucial games.

All coaches have game plans preparing his team for battle against different opponents but during the game it's still how good a coach motivates his players to perform to the highest level and never give up till the final buzzer.

I hope UST win it all.


Yeah, I'm also rooting for UST, having married to a Thomasian.

Jarencio's style of coaching reminds me so much of Jawo.  Not scientific but more on motivational and bringing out the best in players.  Parang situational and strength ni Pido.  Given a certain situation or play, most often na e-execute ni Pido ng maganda.  Incidentally nga pala, Jawo is Pido's coach in Ginebra.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Sep 29, 2013 at 12:08 PM
Nice win for UST.
This will be a very interesting series.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: brainwashed on Sep 29, 2013 at 03:00 PM
Sorry loss for NU. If they had beaten UST then all their basketball teams, juniors, women's and seniors would be playing for the championships. As it is, they lost to UST. Their women's team also lost the first game to La Salle. At least their juniors team has a thrice to beat advantage against Ateneo.

Has there ever been a season where the champions for the three categories came from just one school?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 29, 2013 at 06:35 PM
Back to back finals appearance by UST.
What made their journey sweet was how they kept fighting despite their King Tiger not playing for 6-7 games due to injury.

Coach Pido was very emotional when the game was won.
Tears from his eyes showing his happiness proving his detractors wrong.

Teng vs Teng.
I'm sure Papa and Mama Teng will favor UST to win being the final year for son Jeric to finish his UAAP career with a Championship ring.
Jerone still has 3 more years with DLSU so next time k nlng mgChampion pagbigyan mu muna Kuya Jeric mu para makaisa man lng.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: dencio105 on Sep 30, 2013 at 08:36 AM
Sorry loss for NU. If they had beaten UST then all their basketball teams, juniors, women's and seniors would be playing for the championships. As it is, they lost to UST. Their women's team also lost the first game to La Salle. At least their juniors team has a thrice to beat advantage against Ateneo.

Has there ever been a season where the champions for the three categories came from just one school?

Yup UST won all 3 basketball titles in 1994.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 30, 2013 at 09:48 AM
So, my earlier gut-feel post of NU cracking under pressure and DLSU winning (even before their last 2 matches against FEU) came true.  ;)

For the Finals ....... heart says UST, but mind says DLSU.

Both UST and DLSU are peaking, but I've always said that great guard play is damn essential for every UAAP champ - in that regard, DLSU has the edge due to its army of guards that are playing their best right now.

Despite the recent surge, UST's backcourt is shaky (save for a surprising Sheriff)...... Jeric Teng is all-heart, but obviously still hurt ...... Tata Bautista will forever be limited and inconsistent.

One more important thing, everyone knows who the refs will "favor" in these Finals.

“That was the game-changer. That’s what I told the refs. It really did ...... It is really hard to play those schools. If you are not Ateneo or not La Salle, it’s really hard to win. You need to bring your A-game. That’s a given,” - Nash Racela

Let's enjoy these Finals ...... many great storylines this year - Teng Vs. Teng, 90's rivalry, Pido's old-school methods, etc.

IMO the safe bet in these Finals is DLSU ...... but it's one bet that I wont mind losing.  ;D

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: -sniper- on Oct 02, 2013 at 11:12 AM
(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z468/sniper930/tigersvsarchers_zpsfd0e1607.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/sniper930/media/tigersvsarchers_zpsfd0e1607.jpg.html)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: tifosi_pao on Oct 02, 2013 at 04:00 PM
para sa mga stuck sa office tulad ko:
http://ph.sports.yahoo.com/news/live-updates-of-the--uaapfinals-game-1-dlsu-vs--ust-094939062.html

:D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: comet on Oct 02, 2013 at 05:35 PM
Ust wins! 73-72
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 02, 2013 at 05:39 PM
UST takes Game 1 73 - 72 against DLSU.
Ferrer for Finals MVP!
Great defense, Clutch offense.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Oct 02, 2013 at 05:40 PM
Congrats UST ;D  Nice D by Abdul blocking Revilla's looper.

--------

Coach Pido very humbly says, "Breaks of the game... "  Asked by TJ Manotoc ano iniisip nyang strategy next game, sabi ni Allan K, este ni Coach Pido :  "Alam mo, TJ before the game lang ako nagiisip ng gagawin.  After the game, hindi na muna ako nagiisip.  Makainom lang ako ng malamig na San Miguel Beer masaya na ako..."

Idol Coach Pido!! No intelligent analysis.  No fuss.  Plain and simple "laro lang" and pure heart!!!


Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: leomarley on Oct 02, 2013 at 05:48 PM
This is Dpogs' type of coach. Walang analysis analysis. Lol ;D

One for UST!

Black gold, black white!

Go USTe!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: coastal on Oct 02, 2013 at 05:49 PM
Lasallista nawala sa lista!!!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Oct 02, 2013 at 05:57 PM
Ouch!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: edboy7 on Oct 02, 2013 at 06:00 PM
Iyak si Alvin Teng!!!! hehehehe ganda ng laban!!!!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 02, 2013 at 06:01 PM
Booo

La Salista ako  :P

But it's UST deserving the crown this year. With all the drama, injuries, unexpected wins from top seeds, lessons from previous championships they are deserving. La Salle is a young team and they have proven then again they are a hot contender. Maybe not this year, everyone goes through the hardships and every champion should earn it. It's part of the game. There will be heartbreaking losses before a team becomes a champion. Ateneo did that, La Salle, UST, FEU and so on.

Next game

Para lang nag one on one ang Teng brothers hehe
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 02, 2013 at 06:04 PM
Iyak si Alvin Teng!!!! hehehehe ganda ng laban!!!!

kung sakaling magtuloy ang UST, marami pang taon yung bunso nya sa La Salle kaya malaki pa tsansa mag kampeon, yung Jeric last year na yata mag laro eh
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 02, 2013 at 06:04 PM
Congrats UST ;D  Nice D by Abdul blocking Revilla's looper.

--------

Coach Pido very humbly says, "Breaks of the game... "  Asked by TJ Manotoc ano iniisip nyang strategy next game, sabi ni Allan K, este ni Coach Pido :  "Alam mo, TJ before the game lang ako nagiisip ng gagawin.  After the game, hindi na muna ako nagiisip.  Makainom lang ako ng malamig na San Miguel Beer masaya na ako..."

Idol Coach Pido!! No intelligent analysis.  No fuss.  Plain and simple "laro lang" and pure heart!!!




Very true, breaks of the game talaga after UST's turn over after a time out but they still played good defense and didnt lose composure.
Correct as Jeric said, it's their experience that won them the game.

When the game is on the line, it's all about HEART and that's what UST have PURE HEART!
Vindication for Coach Pido if UST can finish DLSU on Saturday.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Superman on Oct 02, 2013 at 06:10 PM
THAT WAS A GREAT GAME! Kudos to the Glowing Goldies! Game One is yours...

I am sure Game 2 and 3 will be a thriller!

ANIMO!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Oct 02, 2013 at 06:11 PM
Very true, breaks of the game talaga after UST's turn over after a time out but they still played good defense and didnt lose composure.
Correct as Jeric said, it's their experience that won them the game.

When the game is on the line, it's all about HEART and that's what UST have PURE HEART!
Vindication for Coach Pido if UST can finish DLSU on Saturday.

Actually, may underlying statement yun "inom na lang ako San Mig Beer" kasi inulit pa ni Pido nung huli.  Remember, SMB owns LaSalle.  Loko rin si Pido!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: coastal on Oct 02, 2013 at 06:15 PM
Seriously di namin alam na time expired na pala!!! Nagaabang pa kami ng referee's call tapos na pala! Anti-climatic he he he!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 02, 2013 at 06:33 PM
classic..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: nbc on Oct 02, 2013 at 06:44 PM
Tengena naman oh... LOL.

Manalo or matalo, si Alvin Teng, panalo pa rin.

nbc
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 02, 2013 at 06:46 PM
THAT WAS A GREAT GAME! Kudos to the Glowing Goldies! Game One is yours...

I am sure Game 2 and 3 will be a thriller!

ANIMO!

kabayan Growling Tigers na yata tagawa sa kanila ngayon.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: sientobente on Oct 02, 2013 at 07:01 PM
That was a great game. Lakas ng mga import ng UST. Congrats!

Bawi tayo on the next game! Animo La Salle!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: -sniper- on Oct 02, 2013 at 08:06 PM
That was a great game. Lakas ng mga import ng UST. Congrats!

Bawi tayo on the next game! Animo La Salle!

oo nga...talo ung mga import ng la salle.

Go USTE!!!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: nbc on Oct 02, 2013 at 08:09 PM
oo nga...talo ung mga import ng la salle.

Go USTE!!!


LOL!!!  :p

nbc
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: comet on Oct 02, 2013 at 08:23 PM
kabayan Growling Tigers na yata tagawa sa kanila ngayon.
OT lang, Naalala ko tuloy yung pe shorts dati nung glowing goldies pa ang tawag, gold na short shorts!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 02, 2013 at 08:29 PM
That was a great game. Lakas ng mga import ng UST. Congrats!

Bawi tayo on the next game! Animo La Salle!

Yup, Abdul is an import all right ..... I'm never in favor of these imports (my posts in the old threads), but here they are.

It's a good thing that the NCAA has stopped this unfair, albeit legal practice ..... hope the UAAP adopts it as well.

Abdul was locally recruited by UST of course, unlike DLSU which has long employed sports agent/s in the US - imagine that, a collegiate team with formal & systematic US recruitment.  ;)

By the way, I can guarantee that DLSU's import playing in Season 78 will be the best import. Ever.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 02, 2013 at 08:45 PM
Abdul is an import all right but he is not a tall, huge dominating import like those from San Beda.
In fact, Abdul was slowly developed thru the years playing for UST. I still recall he wasnt even a starter in his first year.
Mas grabe pa nga un sa FEU they have two imports alternating at the post but of course they are not that dominant.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: sientobente on Oct 02, 2013 at 08:55 PM
Yup, Abdul is an import all right ..... I'm never in favor of these imports (my posts in the old threads), but here they are.

It's a good thing that the NCAA has stopped this unfair, albeit legal practice ..... hope the UAAP adopts it as well.

Abdul was locally recruited by UST of course, unlike DLSU which has long employed sports agent/s in the US - imagine that, a collegiate team with formal & systematic US recruitment.  ;)

By the way, I can guarantee that DLSU's import playing in Season 78 will be the best import. Ever.
I'm kinda out of the loop in UAAP, I'm curious who that import DLSU is bringing-in on season 78. Is this the Mbala guy?  I won't deny that DLSU has a good recruitment team. During my years in school, Allado, Ritualo drove brand new cars back which were rumored to be provided by La Salle while we see Abdul of UST riding tricycles.
http://www.slamonlineph.com/high-school-college-d-league/karim-abdul-rides-tricycles-just-like-you-and-me

I like this Abdul guy. Has a good feel for the game. Didn't expect he has some range on those shots.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: -sniper- on Oct 02, 2013 at 09:10 PM
Abdul has improved a lot the past two years. from a mere reliever, to UST's dominant center. he has also developed his mid-range shooting. is this also his last year?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 02, 2013 at 09:28 PM
I'm kinda out of the loop in UAAP, I'm curious who that import DLSU is bringing-in on season 78. Is this the Mbala guy?  I won't deny that DLSU has a good recruitment team. During my years in school, Allado, Ritualo drove brand new cars back which were rumored to be provided by La Salle while we see Abdul of UST riding tricycles.
http://www.slamonlineph.com/high-school-college-d-league/karim-abdul-rides-tricycles-just-like-you-and-me

I like this Abdul guy. Has a good feel for the game. Didn't expect he has some range on those shots.

Yup, it's the Mbala kid ..... and he will be the best one yet. Guaranteed. The kid is that good.

No offense, but its no coincidence that in the UAAP/NCAA, "good recruitment" is a direct result of crony este corporate sponsorship.

Like what I've been posting for the longest time, such a thing is considered illegal in the US NCAA ..... even a small incident wherein a potential recruit was given pieces of clothing by a booster, made for suspensions and headlines in the US NCAA.

Here in Da Pilipins, garapalan ang pag-recruit nang local HS & Filam players by cronies este corporate executives/tycoons ..... ex. shortly after Jeron goes Taft, we see Alvin Teng become an assistant coach of SMCorp's ABL team ...... the late Bobby Parks given a juicy NU post ..... players driving around new cars (you forgot Mike Cortez bro, he was driving around a new one too).

IMO the UAAP, NCAA and especially the PBA, has become a microcosm of Philippine governance, society and business ..... bigat ano.  ;D

Anyways, let's all enjoy the games.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: nbc on Oct 02, 2013 at 09:33 PM
Walang kapatid-kapatid in the game kanina, 'no?  I liked the fact that Jeric and Jeron were really pushing each other in that one rebound scene.

nbc
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 02, 2013 at 10:06 PM
What? An import for DLSU? I thought the import referred to was Perkins.

I like Abdul more, aside from Kurt Long than any other imports who played in the UAAP and NCAA.
Simple lng un dalawa. They played tough and with their heart. Hindi sila mayabang at marumi maglaro.

Also about the Growling Tigers, Coach Pido molded and patterned their game the Jaworski style.
What amaze me is that they really play tough but not dirty.
I never expect Ferrer to be this tough after 3 years in the league.
Aside from being one of the top scorers of the Tigers, he's also the best perimeter defender. Hindi takot sa bangaan despite his thin frame.

Paolo Pe reminds me of Wilmer Ong.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: frontANDcenter on Oct 02, 2013 at 11:06 PM
I managed to watch Mbala during the PCCL Tourney while he was still playing for SWU (South Western University) and man, was he a force inside. Reminds me of Zach Randolph in a way. .. I also heard this story before the season started about a tune-up game DLSU had against a PBA team where Mbala scored 30 something points.

Regarding the recruitment process here in the Philippines which in a lot of ways create this line dividing the "haves" and the "have nots" in the UAAP. At first, I had some reservations regarding the matter until I finally submitted to the fact that basketball is indeed a physical sport where players may suffer injuries that can even threaten their careers.   It's only economically reasonable for these kids, or in this case, their parents, to accept the best offer schools can provide while their talents are still "bankable".

As a Thomasian, I know we don't have the kind of luxury most schools have to attract top recruits but at the end of the day, the student-athletes win. Not only will they get compensated for doing something they love but more importantly, they will get education from schools their parents cannot realistically afford.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: titan on Oct 03, 2013 at 12:57 AM
Napapasin nyo ba si kevin Ferrer after maka shoot, nag twe- twearking. :)

Go USTe!!!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 03, 2013 at 03:53 AM
Mbala is the real deal.  Barring injuries, DLSU has a potential dynasty in the making. 

They can go big, real big, but still have one of the best backcourts in Vosotros and Jeron.

They just need to go through Pido first.  ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 03, 2013 at 05:22 AM
Regarding the recruitment process here in the Philippines which in a lot of ways create this line dividing the "haves" and the "have nots" in the UAAP. At first, I had some reservations regarding the matter until I finally submitted to the fact that basketball is indeed a physical sport where players may suffer injuries that can even threaten their careers.   It's only economically reasonable for these kids, or in this case, their parents, to accept the best offer schools can provide while their talents are still "bankable".

As a Thomasian, I know we don't have the kind of luxury most schools have to attract top recruits but at the end of the day, the student-athletes win. Not only will they get compensated for doing something they love but more importantly, they will get education from schools their parents cannot realistically afford.

Beg to differ bro ..... no amount of economic reasons can justify or hide the fact that what these crony/corporate sponsored schools are doing is completely unfair, blatantly unethical and illegal.

It goes against everything which a collegiate league should stand for ..... that is promoting sport, brotherhood, equality and fair play.

I'm glad that UST hasn't gone this route, despite having the means to do so ...... like Steve Uytengsu keeps saying, "win and compete with integrity".
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 03, 2013 at 08:44 AM
Anybody seen the Teng brothers get tangled after a free throw, muntik nang magaway haha o drama lang to spice things up.

Anyway, it would be interesting if the rumoured transfer of Franz Pumaren in the NU coaching side next year would finalize.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: nbc on Oct 03, 2013 at 08:54 AM
Anybody seen the Teng brothers get tangled after a free throw, muntik nang magaway haha o drama lang to spice things up.

Anyway, it would be interesting if the rumoured transfer of Franz Pumaren in the NU coaching side next year would finalize.

I don't think it was drama. The heat of the moment kind of thing... playing to win.

nbc
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 03, 2013 at 10:20 PM
That was a great game. Lakas ng mga import ng UST. Congrats!

Bawi tayo on the next game! Animo La Salle!

muntik na nga manalo ang DLSU dahil sa 3 points nung import nila
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 03, 2013 at 10:27 PM
Beg to differ bro ..... no amount of economic reasons can justify or hide the fact that what these crony/corporate sponsored schools are doing is completely unfair, blatantly unethical and illegal.

It goes against everything which a collegiate league should stand for ..... that is promoting sport, brotherhood, equality and fair play.

I'm glad that UST hasn't gone this route, despite having the means to do so ...... like Steve Uytengsu keeps saying, "win and compete with integrity".


it pains that even at this level,money already talks, not in basketbal but isnt it that two potential star players of UST volleyball were paid este recruited by NU to play for them even if the two were honed and developed by UST in thier high school team.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 04, 2013 at 02:30 AM
I admit this post is wildly off-topic but it is still college basketball related:

The UV Lancers just beat Southwestern University 3-2 in the finals of the CESAFI tournament in Cebu (some of your favorite and future UAAP/NCAA players came from the CESAFI).

The amazing part is that SWU actually led UV 2-0, UV fought back to tie the series, and then won on a last second shot in Game 5 of the finals.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: sabsar on Oct 04, 2013 at 04:59 AM
Actually, may underlying statement yun "inom na lang ako San Mig Beer" kasi inulit pa ni Pido nung huli.  Remember, SMB owns LaSalle.  Loko rin si Pido!

Pido also works for San Miguel - as an assistant coach for Petron.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: sabsar on Oct 04, 2013 at 05:00 AM

Jeric Teng (allegedly) was supposed to play for DLSU. But Franz Pumaren thumbed it down (he doesn't see eye to eye with Alvin Teng).
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: sabsar on Oct 04, 2013 at 05:03 AM

There is a group that 'recruits' the Nigerians/imports. NCAA & UAAP teams just call them.
A few months ago, there was a rush to have one in the NCAA teams since this will be the last year they can have an import as a new player.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 04, 2013 at 06:50 AM
glad to know puro home grown na lang sa ncaa next year..

jeric teng was phenomenal in game 1.. hope the other teng  gets his turn this saturday para may game 3.. btw, is ferrer's tounge longer than miley? :)..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 04, 2013 at 07:19 AM
Like I said, its a great thing that the NCAA has seen the light and finally put a stop on these imports.

Basketball is one sport in which the country has an ENDLESS amount of local talent to fill out every collegiate league many, many times over.

One can go to any barangay-level league anywhere and immediately see a handful of collegiate prospects.

Unfortunately, it looks like a good many years til the UAAP does the same.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: pao9307 on Oct 04, 2013 at 09:13 AM
Scored patron tix for tomorrow's game ;D

Animo!!!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: nbc on Oct 04, 2013 at 09:37 AM
Scored patron tix for tomorrow's game ;D

Animo!!!

Animo USTe!!!

Ang bali-balita, eh, markado daw si Ferrer bukas.

nbc
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: sardaukar on Oct 04, 2013 at 10:16 AM
Yes the UAAP should also stop the recruitment of imports. But I don't mind getting half Filipinos like Perkins and Newsome. At least they can play for the PBA and the national team.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 04, 2013 at 11:58 AM
posible bang may sindikato sa UAAP? meaning kahit gusto mag champion ng UST di pwede dahil sa sindikato?
Title: Re: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 04, 2013 at 12:00 PM
Yes the UAAP should also stop the recruitment of imports. But I don't mind getting half Filipinos like Perkins and Newsome. At least they can play for the PBA and the national team.

With current FIBA regulations, a player needs to have a pinoy passport at age 16 to play for the country. Last I heard, Newsome and Perkins do not qualify.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: jonjon on Oct 04, 2013 at 01:04 PM
Scored patron tix for tomorrow's game ;D

Animo!!!

Baka me extra ka pa 2 sir? hehehe
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 04, 2013 at 01:18 PM
maiba naman, hanep mag dunk yung kobe paras, ang tindi to think na high school pa lang pala yun
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 04, 2013 at 01:20 PM
Long live the scalpers

http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/24599470/UAAP+76+DLSU+VS.+UST+FINALS+ROUND+2+TICKETS

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: edboy7 on Oct 04, 2013 at 01:31 PM
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Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 04, 2013 at 01:32 PM
Yes the UAAP should also stop the recruitment of imports. But I don't mind getting half Filipinos like Perkins and Newsome. At least they can play for the PBA and the national team.

Filams should be okay ...... they're Filipinos too. However, it should be controlled, screened and limited.

I remember when DLSU had more than half of its team made up of Filams (via their sports agent in the US of course) e.g. Cortez, Allado, Wilson, Ramos, etc.

Even a commercial league like the PBA has long realized the negative impact of having too many Filams - it instituted rules limiting the number per team ..... how come a collegiate league didn't follow suit.

Even ADMU's Fr. Tito Caluag wrote a scathing editorial then, admitting that his school and a few others were wrong in loading their lineups with Filams ..... that these Filams we displacing deserving local players, all in the name of trying to win a championship.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: elim on Oct 04, 2013 at 02:00 PM
Long live the scalpers

http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/24599470/UAAP+76+DLSU+VS.+UST+FINALS+ROUND+2+TICKETS



Haha. My friend also sent me the link. Sabi nya huntingin namin. Amp tindi ng sources nito.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 04, 2013 at 02:25 PM
bogus account yata, last two numbers xx haha pero dapat i-meet up yan tapos ipakulong for extortion!

Nampucha, mas mahal pa sa any foreign concert or NBA game this October sa Arena.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: sientobente on Oct 04, 2013 at 02:31 PM
Filams should be okay ...... they're Filipinos too. However, it should be controlled, screened and limited.

I remember when DLSU had more than half of its team made up of Filams (via their sports agent in the US of course) e.g. Cortez, Allado, Wilson, Ramos, etc.

Even a commercial league like the PBA has long realized the negative impact of having too many Filams - it instituted rules limiting the number per team ..... how come a collegiate league didn't follow suit.

Even ADMU's Fr. Tito Caluag wrote a scathing editorial then, admitting that his school and a few others were wrong in loading their lineups with Filams ..... that these Filams we displacing deserving local players, all in the name of trying to win a championship.
Sir, I think that never happened where DLSU had ever had a year where half where Fil-ams. Allado and Cortez never even played in the same decade. Maierhofer was after Cortez' tenure. Wilson and Ramos were scrubs. Plus in DLSU, we have an intercollege league called LSAL, some of our players were standouts in that tournament like Aldeguer.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 04, 2013 at 06:48 PM
Sir, I think that never happened where DLSU had ever had a year where half where Fil-ams. Allado and Cortez never even played in the same decade. Maierhofer was after Cortez' tenure. Wilson and Ramos were scrubs. Plus in DLSU, we have an intercollege league called LSAL, some of our players were standouts in that tournament like Aldeguer.

Yup, it did .... plus Alvin Castro, Mon Jose, Mac Cardona, etc ...... some would likely be non-Filams, but the point is they were US-based/trained people recruited to play here - most via agent Mike Gonzales to boot.

Willy Wilson was never a scrub ..... very intelligent player even then. Manny Ramos was definitely a PBA-scrub, but he fared well in the UAAP.

I never mentioned Maierhofer ...... he definitely came post-Cortez.

Like I said, Filams should be welcome, but needs to be screened, controlled and limited. Way too many local-based talents to fill-up the leagues many times over.

Sports agents should be banned in the collegiate leagues ...... in the US NCAA, a player who deals with a sports agent formally voids his NCAA eligibility.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 04, 2013 at 07:44 PM
dapat talaga may limit ang recruiting..
cardona i think is not a filam, ng-tryout lang sya afaik.. medyo ot, if i remember parang si willie wilson ung na accused ng game fixing, parang sa kanya sinisi ung last finals nila, kawawa ung bata nun.. with fans watching live and  tv na may replay, i doubt mag ka lakas ng loob ang players na magbenta ng laro..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: sardaukar on Oct 04, 2013 at 08:00 PM
With current FIBA regulations, a player needs to have a pinoy passport at age 16 to play for the country. Last I heard, Newsome and Perkins do not qualify.

I didn't know that. That's too bad.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 04, 2013 at 08:46 PM
dapat talaga may limit ang recruiting..
cardona i think is not a filam, ng-tryout lang sya afaik.. medyo ot, if i remember parang si willie wilson ung na accused ng game fixing, parang sa kanya sinisi ung last finals nila, kawawa ung bata nun.. with fans watching live and  tv na may replay, i doubt mag ka lakas ng loob ang players na magbenta ng laro..

IIRC it was Mike Cortez who was the subject of those beta rumors ...... the kid just had a bad game and he gets burned at the stake.

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: sientobente on Oct 05, 2013 at 12:44 AM
Yup, it did .... plus Alvin Castro, Mon Jose, Mac Cardona, etc ...... some would likely be non-Filams, but the point is they were US-based/trained people recruited to play here - most via agent Mike Gonzales to boot.

Willy Wilson was never a scrub ..... very intelligent player even then. Manny Ramos was definitely a PBA-scrub, but he fared well in the UAAP.

I never mentioned Maierhofer ...... he definitely came post-Cortez.

Like I said, Filams should be welcome, but needs to be screened, controlled and limited. Way too many local-based talents to fill-up the leagues many times over.

Sports agents should be banned in the collegiate leagues ...... in the US NCAA, a player who deals with a sports agent formally voids his NCAA eligibility.
I'm not sure where you got this info. The Mike Gonzales/AMG problem wasn't the recruitment agency that got these guys, it's an agency that was rumored to limit some of the player's playing time if they don't sign up with them.

To break down those 3 names you mentioned, Mon Jose's dad was a star athlete in DLSU and it was only natural for his family to choose La Salle. Same story as Alvin Castro. Then on Mac Cardona's part he tried out for several schools here in Manila. I even heard that DLSU wasn't even his first choice. It's just that he wasn't deemed good enough by the other schools. These guys weren't even highly touted players when they came in(and this includes Mike Cortez). The people highly publicized back then as DLSU's prized recruit after Ritualo were BJ Manalo, Carlo Sharma and Nicole Hernandez  O0

Anyway, I read from a facebook post that in the finals between DLSU vs UST. The one who wins the 1st game always losses the series. Is this true?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 05, 2013 at 04:49 AM
I'm not sure where you got this info. The Mike Gonzales/AMG problem wasn't the recruitment agency that got these guys, it's an agency that was rumored to limit some of the player's playing time if they don't sign up with them.

To break down those 3 names you mentioned, Mon Jose's dad was a star athlete in DLSU and it was only natural for his family to choose La Salle. Same story as Alvin Castro. Then on Mac Cardona's part he tried out for several schools here in Manila. I even heard that DLSU wasn't even his first choice. It's just that he wasn't deemed good enough by the other schools. These guys weren't even highly touted players when they came in(and this includes Mike Cortez). The people highly publicized back then as DLSU's prized recruit after Ritualo were BJ Manalo, Carlo Sharma and Nicole Hernandez  O0

Anyway, I read from a facebook post that in the finals between DLSU vs UST. The one who wins the 1st game always losses the series. Is this true?

I'm quite sure that it's Mike Gonzales ..... even the great (just kidding) Quinito Henson raved a few times about the guys contributions.

I never said anything about formally signing up with them or any other agency. It is possible that some might have signed up or something. It's the fact that a school deals with such an entity to recruit potential players - makes for an uneven playing field.

Filams per team, per season, etc should have been controlled then. The PBA saw the cons of having too much Filams, that it put up tight rules & a cap, even then ...... the collegiate leagues should have followed suit.

Cardona was indeed a tryout reject (IIRC it was JRU) before landing with DLSU ...... Mon Jose was a classmate from way, way back - heard that he went abroad and one day saw him playing in the UAAP.

My point is, there should be no organized (by an agency or agent) and systematic recruitment of Filams and US-trained Pinoys for the collegiate leagues ..... also, put a stop to these imports ...... there's an endless amount of local talent to cover every collegiate league from Batanes to Sulu.  ;)

Yup, you are correct; the loser of game1 between these two, went on to win the series ..... goes to show the closeness of the matchups between these two.

I should know, I was there live and screaming during those 90's matchups ....... those were indeed memorable games. As always, great effort from both teams.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 05, 2013 at 05:13 AM
bogus account yata, last two numbers xx haha pero dapat i-meet up yan tapos ipakulong for extortion!
di ba na-click yan to show the number, anyway the account has been suspended na yata
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: pao9307 on Oct 05, 2013 at 07:40 AM
di ba na-click yan to show the number, anyway the account has been suspended na yata
yes,click to see the complete number.tingin ko naman legit.inayawan ko lang.San ka nakakita ng seller who would ask you to email your complete name and id number before ka bentahan?!
Anyway,mamaya na.

Bawi tayo La Salle! :D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 05, 2013 at 09:15 AM
At one point gusto ko na ring matapos yung finals para matapos na yung kalokohan ng mga scalpers na yan! Mathematically that's more than 1,000% markup. May sindikato talaga dyan sa Araneta ticketing kasi sila din ang kumikita pag may ganyan. Palaging ang rason "minsan" lang naman sila kumikita. They are called professional scalpers! Parati namang may events pati concerts eh.

Taun taon na lang yan di na nasolusyonan. Last year ba sa Ateneo-UST? Eto kasi ang garapalan na talaga eh. Sadly, may pumapatol pa rin sa ganyang presyo.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: BusyChild on Oct 05, 2013 at 02:26 PM
Go, LA SALLE!!!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 05, 2013 at 03:34 PM
DLSU vs UST Game 2 on Chanel 2.
Expect tons of commercials.

Down 17 in the 2nd quarter, now only down by 1 ang UST 7 mins left 3rd kanto.
Never Say Die USTE!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Oct 05, 2013 at 05:34 PM
Go La Salle. Maintain the Lead in the 4th Quarter!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 05, 2013 at 05:44 PM
DLSU played tough takes Game 2.
Great dominating game by AVO and Norbert Torres.
Game 3 this coming Sat. Oct 12 at MOA Arena.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Oct 05, 2013 at 05:46 PM
Animo La Salle!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Superman on Oct 05, 2013 at 06:00 PM
There will be a Game 3!! ANIMO LA SALLE!!!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: leomarley on Oct 05, 2013 at 06:15 PM
Congrats for winning game two, La Salle. UST bawi tayo sa next Saturday! One For UST!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: comet on Oct 05, 2013 at 06:18 PM
Congrats La Salle, see you game 3 goUSTE!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: anya618 on Oct 05, 2013 at 06:53 PM
mas mahal sigurado ang tickets for game 3  >:D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Wiggum on Oct 05, 2013 at 06:55 PM
Game 3 is going to be anybody's ballgame. But IMO the one-week break favors UST. DLSU loses some momentum there. Kinda weird to have such a long break between games for a Finals series. Is it also true that, despite reports saying the MOA Arena will be the venue for next Sat's Game 3, this isn't confirmed yet because MOA Arena is already booked for another event? Even Araneta will be unavailable next Sat, per reports. Baka sa ULTRA ang bagsak nito. Para kumita naman ang Pasig scalpers!

Nice post-game interview given btw by Coach Juno Sauler. Almost heard crickets there. :)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 05, 2013 at 07:33 PM
sabi kanina to be announced pa ang venue. Sa Rizal stadium para retro 90s wahaha

die you scalpers!!!

Kahit papano napaganda ang series, even ball game so we'll see how it goes in game #3. It was Ferrer's technical foul that killed the momentum for UST. Had it just "warnings" given it would have sparked some more from the UST side, maybe closer end game again. Pido maybe disgusted after that, same goes for Racela's comments "if you're not part of big schools you're not getting any sympathy from the league or refs."

Good comeback from La Salle, we'll see another match-up on Saturday.

Again, kill all the scalpers!

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 05, 2013 at 08:12 PM
Cuneta Astrodome, anyone? :D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: sardaukar on Oct 05, 2013 at 08:18 PM
Wag, hindi nananalo ang La Salla sa Cuneta Astrodome, hehe.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 05, 2013 at 08:57 PM
Di ba dapat nagaagawan nga ang Araneta at MOA Arena for saturday, ang laki ng kikitain nila dito. Siguradong puno!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: edboy7 on Oct 06, 2013 at 01:27 AM
From the news MOA daw
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: jjohnc on Oct 06, 2013 at 01:38 AM
REKTIKANO...Animo La Salle!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Oct 06, 2013 at 07:52 AM
For teams that are evenly matched, a game 3 is a MUST.

May the best team win.  Although I am rooting for UST para sa mahal kong asawa!!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: brainwashed on Oct 06, 2013 at 08:36 AM
Game 3 is going to be anybody's ballgame. But IMO the one-week break favors UST. DLSU loses some momentum there. Kinda weird to have such a long break between games for a Finals series. Is it also true that, despite reports saying the MOA Arena will be the venue for next Sat's Game 3, this isn't confirmed yet because MOA Arena is already booked for another event? Even Araneta will be unavailable next Sat, per reports. Baka sa ULTRA ang bagsak nito. Para kumita naman ang Pasig scalpers!

Nice post-game interview given btw by Coach Juno Sauler. Almost heard crickets there. :)

I beg to disagree. This favors DLSU more than it favors UST. It's difficult to keep passions high for an extended period. And since DLSU is the more systematic team, they'll have more time to perfect whatever adjustments are needed to counter UST's passion. 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: SiCkBoY on Oct 06, 2013 at 09:24 AM
The extended break gives the DLSU players a much needed break. They only rotated 7 players in Game 2. The long break will be to their advantage.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: BusyChild on Oct 06, 2013 at 11:39 AM
Mahirap kaya bumili ng tickets for game 3?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 06, 2013 at 01:09 PM
Tingin ko mas mahirap makakuha ngayong game 3 kasi do or die na and last among the series. Ewan ko lang kung mas okay ticketing ng MOA Arena kaysa Araneta. Mas naglipana ang sindikato at scalpers sa Araneta eh. Better yet get it from your school office para safe. Kaso mga alumni lagi nakakakuha ng tickets eh.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 06, 2013 at 01:13 PM
No spit, just sweat, says Romeo on Teng incident

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/10/06/13/no-spit-just-sweat-says-romeo-teng-incident

Pawis lang po talaga yon, wala pong personalan. How ironic! Jologs ka talaga Romeo

Even if it's sweat to you, you'll do that to win?! Inamo dude
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Superman on Oct 06, 2013 at 02:22 PM
No spit, just sweat, says Romeo on Teng incident

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/10/06/13/no-spit-just-sweat-says-romeo-teng-incident

Pawis lang po talaga yon, wala pong personalan. How ironic! Jologs ka talaga Romeo

Even if it's sweat to you, you'll do that to win?! Inamo dude

Krets, so true!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: deist on Oct 06, 2013 at 07:49 PM
^ kadiri si Romeo, can't stop shaking my head when I saw that vid. kahit sa larong kalye di ko pa nakitang ginawa yun tsk tsk
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: deist on Oct 06, 2013 at 07:55 PM

AVO is a revelation this season, he's a beast inside! Jeron should start taking shooting lessons from Allan Caidic this off-season. seriously, UST's giving him all the time in the world to take outside shots!

Jeric is pouring his heart out every game, you can tell that he wants to win more than anyone this Finals.

Can't wait for the exciting game 3!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: brainwashed on Oct 06, 2013 at 10:20 PM
^ kadiri si Romeo, can't stop shaking my head when I saw that vid. kahit sa larong kalye di ko pa nakitang ginawa yun tsk tsk

hindi mo makikitang gawin yan ng mga dayo. ang home team ang karaniwang gagawa niyan sa larong kalye.

luma nang "dirty tactics" yang paggamit ng dura. mababaw pa nga yan kasi sa kamay lang. pero sabi nga ni Romeo e pawis lang naman.

parang nakalimutan na ang "freedom of spits" na litrato ng pagdura ni Onchie dela Cruz sa mukha ni Wes Matthews na import ng Ginebra. Si Dionisio ng Crispa, kung tama ang aking pagkakaalala ay isa rin sa kilalang nandudura. ginawa na rin yan ng isa sa mga bringas brothers. nahuli nga lang.

mabuti nga kung dura lang kasi pwede mong punasan at iligo pagkatapos ng laban. ang mahirap ay yung tirahin, sahurin, sikuhin, sundutin sa mata, iwan sa ere na maaaring mauwi sa pagkabalda.

maaaring sabihin na walang lugar sa sports ang ganyang mga pamamaraan. maaaring sabihing unti-unti nang nawawala ang mga ganyang pamamaraan. pero siguradong hahanap at hahanap ng ibang paraan para manggulang
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: deist on Oct 07, 2013 at 09:52 AM
^ tama ka chief, walang lugar sa sports ang mga ganyang kabastusan...naglaro ako ng basketball sa kalye mula elementary hanggang college pero di ko pa nakita yang ganyan, baka iba yung mga kalye sa lugar namin  ;)

yung mga halimbawa mong binigay sir medyo hindi ko na inabot, wala pang internet sa pilipinas yata nyan panahon na yan. iba na ngayon, sa panahon ng "social media" madali ng makita ng mundo ang mga kalokohan lalo na kung may video. sa panahon na kahit pagtapon mo ng basura sa kalye mula sa bintana ng sasakyan mo e ikokondena ka na ng buong bayan ano pa kaya kung mga ganyang kabalahuraan o mga pananakit ng kapwa, dudurugin ka sa internet at mahihiya kang lumabas ng bahay damay pa pati pamilya mo.

ang sa akin lang naman e sa ayaw at sa gusto nya isa na syang "role model", tinitingala ng maraming bata na mahilig sa basketball. MVP pa ng UAAP. maski ako bilib sa husay nyang maglaro. PERO yung ginawa nya ay diskarte ng duwag, kung gusto mo asarin ang kalaban mo galingan mo sa laro. hindi na pwedeng dalhin ang "dirty tactics" na nakuha mo sa kalye para ipaglaban ang pangalan ng eskwelahan mo sa liga.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Oct 07, 2013 at 01:33 PM
AVO is a revelation this season, he's a beast inside! Jeron should start taking shooting lessons from Allan Caidic this off-season. seriously, UST's giving him all the time in the world to take outside shots!

Jeric is pouring his heart out every game, you can tell that he wants to win more than anyone this Finals.

Can't wait for the exciting game 3!

Alvin Teng must be a proud father lately.  I watched the game and both his sons Jeric and Jeron parehong kumakamada sa mga teams eh.  Galing!!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Oct 07, 2013 at 01:40 PM
hindi mo makikitang gawin yan ng mga dayo. ang home team ang karaniwang gagawa niyan sa larong kalye.

luma nang "dirty tactics" yang paggamit ng dura. mababaw pa nga yan kasi sa kamay lang. pero sabi nga ni Romeo e pawis lang naman.

parang nakalimutan na ang "freedom of spits" na litrato ng pagdura ni Onchie dela Cruz sa mukha ni Wes Matthews na import ng Ginebra. Si Dionisio ng Crispa, kung tama ang aking pagkakaalala ay isa rin sa kilalang nandudura. ginawa na rin yan ng isa sa mga bringas brothers. nahuli nga lang.

mabuti nga kung dura lang kasi pwede mong punasan at iligo pagkatapos ng laban. ang mahirap ay yung tirahin, sahurin, sikuhin, sundutin sa mata, iwan sa ere na maaaring mauwi sa pagkabalda.

maaaring sabihin na walang lugar sa sports ang ganyang mga pamamaraan. maaaring sabihing unti-unti nang nawawala ang mga ganyang pamamaraan. pero siguradong hahanap at hahanap ng ibang paraan para manggulang


Ang masakit nito MVP pa naman sya. Kahit papaano, dapat maganda ang inaasal mo sa loob ng court.

As for spitting stories, I can't recall if it was Dionisio or Fabiosa who spat on Francis Arnaiz in one of the Crispa Toyota games.  And kwento ng erpats ko, sila Tembong Melencio at Turo Valenzona before dinuraan yun mga Koreano kaya nagkagulo sa isang National Games.  Yuck. But gone are those days.  Dati pag bad boy ka, sikat ka.  Ngayon skills and power na ang labanan  talaga. 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: energizer_jc on Oct 07, 2013 at 02:59 PM
Wag, hindi nananalo ang La Salla sa Cuneta Astrodome, hehe.

FYI. Our 1999 championship was won in Cuneta. Coincidentally, we were 0-1 against UST in that series and won the last 2 games.

ANIMO LA SALLE!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: sardaukar on Oct 07, 2013 at 03:20 PM
Cuneta pa rin pala yon. Ang naaalala ko lang eh yung sunod sunod na second place finishes against UST.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: BusyChild on Oct 09, 2013 at 12:54 PM

MOA Arena to sell UAAP finals game 3 tickets only on game day

http://sports.inquirer.net/123353/moa-arena-to-sell-uaap-finals-game-3-tickets-only-on-game-day


MANILA, Philippines—SM Tickets will open ticket selling for game three of the UAAP men’s basketball finals between La Salle and the University of Santo Tomas scheduled on Saturday only on the day itself.

The ticketing network of Mall of Asia Arena announced on its Facebook account Tuesday that fans may buy tickets just half an hour before the 3:30 p.m. rubber match.

“1 ticket per physically present person. Those in line will be directed straight to the venue entrance. Customer will not be allowed to leave the line after purchase,” SM Tickets also said.


Good luck sa stampede...
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: anya618 on Oct 09, 2013 at 01:00 PM
^para maiwasan siguro ang scalpers
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: pao9307 on Oct 09, 2013 at 01:06 PM
sa TV na lang ako manunuod.. ::)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: anya618 on Oct 09, 2013 at 01:08 PM
sa TV na lang ako manunuod.. ::)

while eating longganisa with rice?  >:D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: onedown on Oct 09, 2013 at 02:35 PM
selling of tickets will start 30 minutes before game time? can't help but wonder how management intends to accommodate over 10k fans in just half an hour. at 10K, they would have to serve over 300 persons per minute.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: hotrod on Oct 09, 2013 at 05:19 PM

I'll watch it on Balls HD.  Go USTE!!!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: pao9307 on Oct 11, 2013 at 12:45 PM
bukas na!!! :D

hoping that DLSU's inside dominance continues. :D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: sardaukar on Oct 11, 2013 at 02:28 PM
FYI. Our 1999 championship was won in Cuneta. Coincidentally, we were 0-1 against UST in that series and won the last 2 games.

ANIMO LA SALLE!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wkMl1uzUEvU

Cuneta Astrodome nga. Pampagana. ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 11, 2013 at 07:29 PM
Dahil sa bagyo, the UAAP will make an announcement tomorrow morning if the game will be postponed. If it gets postponed, sa Oct. 16 na daw lalaruin yung Game 3.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Wiggum on Oct 12, 2013 at 08:01 AM
^JUST IN: UAAP Board has announced that Game 3 is pushing through later. Ayos na ang Saturday afternoon ng karamihan :)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: frequenzy on Oct 12, 2013 at 12:41 PM
what time yung game?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: purple_jedi on Oct 12, 2013 at 12:47 PM
3:30PM
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: BusyChild on Oct 12, 2013 at 01:05 PM
Go, LA SALLE!!!!

Hehe.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: anya618 on Oct 12, 2013 at 05:37 PM
overtime!!!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Oct 12, 2013 at 05:38 PM
Both teams deserve the championship! WHAT A GAME!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: hls on Oct 12, 2013 at 05:38 PM
Ganda ng laban
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: comet on Oct 12, 2013 at 05:47 PM
34 secs to go, hope my team wins. Ganda ng laban!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: toys4geeks on Oct 12, 2013 at 05:51 PM
@ 2.3 seconds PANALO LA SALLE? (71 - 69  :) ! O0


PANALO!!!! Thank you UST fantastic game!





Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: hls on Oct 12, 2013 at 05:56 PM
Congrats sa La Salle
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Oct 12, 2013 at 05:58 PM
ANIMO!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 12, 2013 at 05:59 PM
Boy, this is one time that I hate to get it right .......
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: toys4geeks on Oct 12, 2013 at 06:02 PM
GO LA SALLE !!!

2013 UAAP Champions


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Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: vinci on Oct 12, 2013 at 06:03 PM
ganda ng laban. congrats la salle. naawa lang ako kay jeric. all heart yung bata kaso kulang sa suporta talaga. yung last play sya pa pinag inbound sana sya na lang tumira. and si mariano....wala ako.masabi.hahaha
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 12, 2013 at 06:05 PM
Great game but a really painful one for UST especially for Pido and Jeric Teng.

Pido lived and died with Mariano. He made 2 FTs to force OT then he threw the ball away to give La Salle the lead. Bad decision by Pido to leave him in the game. It most likely cost them the championship.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: jjohnc on Oct 12, 2013 at 06:08 PM
ANIMO LA SALLE!!!!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 12, 2013 at 06:11 PM
Like I've predicted, DLSU is the safe bet to win, since it's brimming with great guard-play ..... while UST shallow and shaky.

Mariano completely went 180 degrees this season ...... he was a revelation last year, but was iffy (and injured) this season.

Also, except for Torres, I didn't expect DLSU bigs to contribute much this season ...... AVO had a breakout season - should serve him well in the future.

I'd like to make mention of the spotty job by the refs, but that's for another time.

Always a great series when these two teams meet in the Finals ..... Bal David, Henry Ong & Dale Singson would not have approved of this year's ending though.  :)

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Wiggum on Oct 12, 2013 at 06:11 PM
Both teams deserve the championship! WHAT A GAME!

Yes, Kudos to both teams for a classic, well-played series! Could've gone either way.

Congrats to the DLSU Green Archers!   
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: rochie on Oct 12, 2013 at 06:17 PM
i don't wanna be on mariano's shoes this time hehehehehe.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: toys4geeks on Oct 12, 2013 at 06:20 PM
i don't wanna be on mariano's shoes this time hehehehehe.

oo kawawa.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: sientobente on Oct 12, 2013 at 06:21 PM
Congrats DLSU! I would have liked UST to win this championship because it's Jeric's last year and DLSU seem to have a bright future with the core intact for the next few years. But that Kevin Ferrer and his dirty plays is really hard to like.

Animo La Salle!  O0
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: jackryan on Oct 12, 2013 at 07:56 PM
same here for Jeric...

Jeron Teng: When the buzzer sounded I didn't know how to feel. My brother gave his all. For me, he deserved to be MVP. #UAAP76Finals

Jeron has my respect for keeping his humility and thinking first of his Kuya, despite the big team win...
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 12, 2013 at 08:03 PM
But that Kevin Ferrer and his dirty plays is really hard to like.

Animo La Salle!  O0

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/video/sports/10/12/13/watch-ferrers-unsportsmanlike-foul-avo

idiot din!! Pero binawian naman ni AVO sa 3rd yata nung sumugod si Ferrer sa kanya, sa leeg tinamaan tapos walang foul hehe
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 12, 2013 at 09:09 PM
same here for Jeric...

Jeron Teng: When the buzzer sounded I didn't know how to feel. My brother gave his all. For me, he deserved to be MVP. #UAAP76Finals

Jeron has my respect for keeping his humility and thinking first of his Kuya, despite the big team win...

This is why I admired the Teng brothers after the game, they have mutual respect for one another. Jeron was humble enough to acknowledge his brother's effort to win but it fell short. He said he was even more deserving to be the MVP. I'm glad it was UST and La Salle who went into the finals because it could have gone either way. It was a good spin by the UAAP about the Teng brothers otherwise it would be a boring season.

Go La Salle
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: SiCkBoY on Oct 12, 2013 at 10:12 PM
Now Trending: #JunoFace

Animo La Salle!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: deist on Oct 12, 2013 at 10:32 PM
Congrats La Salle. Great game.
Title: Re: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 12, 2013 at 11:03 PM
Congrats La Salle. Great game.

I am an Atenean but it is hard to discount the fact that this could very well be the beginnings of a dynasty for the guys in Taft.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: pao9307 on Oct 12, 2013 at 11:40 PM
Animo!!! :D

There's this one sequence from ust that really confused me.dlsu was leading by only 2.but they thought it was a good idea to heave 3-4 3pt attempts.
Yung mariano ba lahat tumira nun?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: rukawakaide1721 on Oct 13, 2013 at 01:13 AM
No, it wasn't him, it was Kevin Ferrer...


Animo!!! :D

There's this one sequence from ust that really confused me.dlsu was leading by only 2.but they thought it was a good idea to heave 3-4 3pt attempts.
Yung mariano ba lahat tumira nun?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on Oct 13, 2013 at 09:08 AM
ganda ng laban. congrats la salle. naawa lang ako kay jeric. all heart yung bata kaso kulang sa suporta talaga. yung last play sya pa pinag inbound sana sya na lang tumira. and si mariano....wala ako.masabi.hahaha

+ 1. Since si Jeric ang go-to-guy ng USTe dapat sya ang receiver, bakit si Abdul ang naging receiver at ang layo sa basket. That was a very crucial mistake.
Title: Re: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: deist on Oct 13, 2013 at 09:45 AM
I am an Atenean but it is hard to discount the fact that this could very well be the beginnings of a dynasty for the guys in Taft.

hahaha I agree with you. Jeron is maturing fast enough with a young, monster in the paint & board teammates behind him. All Jeron needs is a decent outside shot & he will be unstoppable  ;)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: retro12195 on Oct 13, 2013 at 10:38 AM
LaSalle next year new players :o :o :o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okyOfzi9GPg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUD9NJKz0Z0
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: toys4geeks on Oct 13, 2013 at 10:49 AM
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(http://www.goarchers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/JEN_0317-615x400.jpg)

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Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: BusyChild on Oct 13, 2013 at 11:31 AM
^ ASTIG!!!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: sardaukar on Oct 13, 2013 at 12:17 PM
LaSalle next year new players :o :o :o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okyOfzi9GPg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUD9NJKz0Z0

Si Kib nandyan na. Si Mbala, hindi ba siya mag-sit out ng 1 more year?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: energizer_jc on Oct 13, 2013 at 08:36 PM
My photos naman!

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Nakuha na ni LA!
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Priceless! FRAME KITA!
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I got it!
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Thanks for the improved free throw shooting!!!(http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss202/energizer_jc/IMG_3773_zps919a927d.jpg) (http://s576.photobucket.com/user/energizer_jc/media/IMG_3773_zps919a927d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 14, 2013 at 01:01 AM
Honestly, I don't want that Mbala player in La Salle. Masyado syang malakas baka masira pa ang chemistry ng current roster. Idevelop na lang yung mga rookies para patas lang ang laban. Parang ang dumi pating maglaro based on that youtube links. Larong egot, di tulad ni Perkins simple lang.

Historically, sino ba ang mga naging "dirty" player ng La Salle? Nakita ko lang nag tirahan sina Tyrone Bautista at ibang UST players during that finals pero yun lang.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Hitman on Oct 14, 2013 at 08:39 AM
Last year sinabi ko na rin sa 2012 UAAP thread that I really felt benta si Abdul. This year he did the same thing, magbenta!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 14, 2013 at 11:28 AM
LaSalle next year new players :o :o :o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okyOfzi9GPg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUD9NJKz0Z0

pambihira may tatalo pa ba sa LS nyan kahit pa sabihing bilog ang bola, ngayon nga lang wala ng tumalo eh sasama pa yang dalawa na yan? parang PBA na din pala ang UAAP.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: energizer_jc on Oct 14, 2013 at 11:29 AM
Honestly, I don't want that Mbala player in La Salle. Masyado syang malakas baka masira pa ang chemistry ng current roster. Idevelop na lang yung mga rookies para patas lang ang laban. Parang ang dumi pating maglaro based on that youtube links. Larong egot, di tulad ni Perkins simple lang.

Mbala will only play come 2015.

5 players will be gone by then:
De La Paz, Luis Alfonso
Revilla, Luis Alfonso
Tampus, Jarelan
Torres, Norberto Brian
Vosotros, Almond

Which current roster will you be worried about then?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 14, 2013 at 11:31 AM
Akala ko next year na? Taka din ako kung saan papasok si lineup si Mbala kung wala namang mawawala sa team next year. Anyway we'll see. Kailangan muna nilang mag two-peat next year.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: energizer_jc on Oct 14, 2013 at 11:32 AM
pambihira may tatalo pa ba sa LS nyan kahit pa sabihing bilog ang bola, ngayon nga lang wala ng tumalo eh sasama pa yang dalawa na yan? parang PBA na din pala ang UAAP.

Kib Montalbo already played this year.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: energizer_jc on Oct 14, 2013 at 11:35 AM
Akala ko next year na? Taka din ako kung saan papasok si lineup si Mbala kung wala namang mawawala sa team next year. Anyway we'll see. Kailangan muna nilang mag two-peat next year.

Chief, I think nakalimutan mo na 13 players lang ang lineup natin this year. That's 3 short of the 16 players allowed by the UAAP.

Kung hindi na injure si Yutien, 14 ang tao natin.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: sardaukar on Oct 14, 2013 at 12:10 PM
Mbala will only play come 2015.

5 players will be gone by then:
De La Paz, Luis Alfonso
Revilla, Luis Alfonso
Tampus, Jarelan
Torres, Norberto Brian
Vosotros, Almond

Which current roster will you be worried about then?

Si AVO mawawala na rin after next year, diba? Batch ba niya sila Vosotros?

Edit: Both AVO and Norbert are only on their 3rd playing year. Pwede pang 2 years pareho.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Oct 14, 2013 at 12:16 PM
http://www.inboundpass.com/2013/10/13/from-dark-times-to-the-light-archers-are-champs-at-last/

Congratulations to DLSU.  Much deserved win.  If you look at the stats sheet, DLSU had the more balanced scoring and production.

I thought UST controlled 3/4 of the game but committed very costly errors down the stretch.  When DLSU was rallying, why didn't Coach Pido call a timeout?  Why did Jeric Teng have to bring out the ball in the crucial seconds when the game is on the line?  Twice!!  Will Lebron, MJ or Kobe do that? You live and die with your top gunner. 

Anyway, my wife was ready with an "FB status" when UST was leading.  She thought UST will win.  I told her it's not over till it's over.  :o
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: CMac on Oct 14, 2013 at 12:22 PM
Basang basa talaga plays ng uste at the start of the 2nd half.
Pasa kay abdul sa midrange.
Dribble ng kaunti.
Abdul will then pass it back out or pass to a cutter which rarely happened.
Tapos pilit na titirahin ng player whoever gets the pass from abdul.
Stupid or benta 3rd qtr? Only danding knows.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Oct 14, 2013 at 12:27 PM
Over at the NCAA, the darkhorse now is the Emilio Aguinaldo College (EAC) Generals.  They're in the running for the 4th and last spot of the Final Four.  If they win their last two games and San Sebastian loses both, they're IN.

Happy for the coaching staff esp. Coach Gerry Esplana and Asst Coach Mark Manosca.  Both are batchmates from San Beda ;D

Go EAC!!!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Quitacet on Oct 14, 2013 at 12:29 PM
heads up guys

http://sports.inquirer.net/124383/ncaa-cancels-basketball-games-monday-due-to-inc-event
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Oct 14, 2013 at 12:37 PM
heads up guys

http://sports.inquirer.net/124383/ncaa-cancels-basketball-games-monday-due-to-inc-event

Oo nga.  Sayang.  I already have a seat reserved at the bench of EAC!!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: onedown on Oct 14, 2013 at 12:38 PM
assuming la salle's players meet the academic requirements, only revilla will be ineligible for the next season. de la paz, tampus, and vosotros were in their fourth playing year. norbert torres and van opstal were in their third. though i think the former can play for only one more year because he already earned his degree.



re jeric teng making the in bound. the man making the in bound can be the most dangerous player with the proper play.  :)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on Oct 14, 2013 at 01:03 PM
^ that is kung medyo mahaba pa ang oras. Allan Caidic was a good example of that kind of play. Akala ko nga ganun ang play nila, ibabalik sa  nag inbound, hindi pala.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 14, 2013 at 01:20 PM
assuming la salle's players meet the academic requirements, only revilla will be ineligible for the next season. de la paz, tampus, and vosotros were in their fourth playing year. norbert torres and van opstal were in their third. though i think the former can play for only one more year because he already earned his degree.

Bakit di na pwede si LA Revilla, John? Si Norbert patapos na rin yata pero baka mag mba na lang. Si AVO, wag mo nang asahan sa academics haha. Siguradong pahahabain yan kahit di athlete.

Kung si Buenafe nga eh, napaabot nila ng 6 years sa school. hehe
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: onedown on Oct 14, 2013 at 01:29 PM
krets,

although revilla has just completed his fourth playing year, he has already earned a bachelor's degree. he's taking ma in education, i think. from what i recall, athletes who are in graduate school, or those studying for a second degree, are eligible to play for only one year, regardless if the student has previously played in a varsity league or not.

in buenafe's case, he had to sit out because of academic deficiencies. from what i recall, players have five playing years within seven years.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 14, 2013 at 03:50 PM
Thanks John, intact pa daw next year according to their UKG guesting. We'll see Hehe

Teka, akala ko ba graduate na si Andrada, isn't he part of the coaching staff now? Or just sitting after an injury?

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/video/sports/10/14/13/mixed-feelings-jeron-after-win-over-jeric

forget the rest of the clip, it's boring as usual. haha

OT: Ganda pala ni Bernadette Sembrano ng naka skirt hehe
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: onedown on Oct 14, 2013 at 04:42 PM
not sure if andrada has earned his degree, but he got injured before the season started. he is still eligible if he wants to play since he sat out this season--unless he has graduated, and is taking graduate studies this school year.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: edboy7 on Oct 14, 2013 at 05:26 PM
Ateneo is on the works narin...Gueye is 7'1" hehehe
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-amRQEYX6g6w/UewS1btbQ_I/AAAAAAAAFpY/fE5NCpUy1FQ/s1600/ateneo+blue+eagles+african+recruits.jpg)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: ramordep on Oct 14, 2013 at 10:19 PM
puro import na :-D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 15, 2013 at 09:24 PM
Better stop those import playin in the collegiate ranks and search for more home grown talents.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 15, 2013 at 09:48 PM
Another addition to La Salle

Kobe Paras picks La Salle over UP, report says

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/10/15/13/kobe-paras-picks-la-salle-over-report-says

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: SiCkBoY on Oct 15, 2013 at 10:27 PM
Nilalangaw kasi kuya nya sa UP eh.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 15, 2013 at 11:37 PM
^ that is kung medyo mahaba pa ang oras. Allan Caidic was a good example of that kind of play. Akala ko nga ganun ang play nila, ibabalik sa  nag inbound, hindi pala.

+1

twice on crucial plays, your best player was in bounding,
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 15, 2013 at 11:39 PM
puro import na :-D

UAAPBA na next season
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 16, 2013 at 05:00 AM
The six-foot-five Paras, who is this year’s World 3x3 slam dunk champion, was spotted at the victory party of the Green Archers last Saturday, where he was seen with businessman Eduardo “Danding” Cojuangco, who is considered La Salle’s top sports patron.

I’d be loyal kasi si Boss Danding pa 'yung tumutulong sa akin, so I’d be as loyal as possible,” Paras, who is currently a high school junior, told Spin.ph. “Malamang nga dun na ako. As of now, 'yun na muna siguro masasabi ko. I’m leaning towards that (playing for La Salle).”


Long have I ranted against these unfair and unethical practices.

In the US NCAA, this is considered BOTH unethical and illegal and will result in some heavy fines and school/player suspensions ...... here in Da Pilipins, it's out in the open for everyone to see and the unwitting press to marvel at.

On the flipside, we still can see some vanguards of truth. It's ironic that the man was once a member (via marriage) of the crony elite ...... but Tommy Manotoc was always a sportsman and played fair.

He and a few other alumni (Kurt Bachman) were the first, and perhaps the only ones, to lambast DLSU officials and it's recruiting practices e.g. fielding ineligible players from 2003-2006 ...... all leading up to DLSU being suspended back in 2006.

Here's his very truthful column, filed on the eve of this year's game 3.


Where’s the UAAP headed?
By Tommy Manotoc
Philippine Daily Inquirer
October 11, 2013 at 1:45 am
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It appears to me that the UAAP has now quite a situation in its hands.

With the way the outcomes of the games are panning out, the league, indeed, has much to think about. It seems to me that this is a perfect time, before the final game is played, for the board to rethink where the league is headed and what its intentions truly are.

Let’s not kid ourselves into believing that the UAAP is still only a collegiate league that merely facilitates the provision of scholarships to those athletes who can’t afford the tuition, promotes sportsmanship among its student-athletes, and provides a bit of entertainment for the college student and alumni alike.

Those days are long gone.  Just looking at the amounts of money that prized recruits are receiving boggles the mind.

Could this be why many of us seem to be losing our sense of objectivity, logic and civility, passing judgment and observation on the events that have transpired this far, only to the tune of one’s particular music and color?

The league is clearly masquerading as a college league. In reality, it has already turned commercial in a big way.

The schools involved have always had their pride on the line. What is different this time are the investments involved. The money spent by each school to reach the Final Four is enormous. Consequently, there is now too much at stake in each and every game that is played.

The question now is: Is this the direction the UAAP board wishes to continue to take? Is this the direction we—students, alumni, investors—wish the league to take?

If previously, these collegiate leagues were established to promote sportsmanship, and so that everyone involved should have a bit of fun, should we now just accept the fact that schools these days use the UAAP as part of their marketing strategy to promote themselves?

Perhaps the UAAP board should look into how they could put some checks and balances on how much is spent on the recruitment programs to make it fair game for all schools.

For at the rate it is going now, there will be only a couple of schools who will be able to build a competitive team.


Also, since we also want to develop our local big guys, including the Fil-Ams, the board could also consider putting limits on the number of imports of non-Filipino lineage in the lineup of the team.

Perhaps with these measures we may regain the values which had prompted the league’s founders to put up the UAAP in the first place.


http://m.inquirer.net/sports/?id=123737
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: sardaukar on Oct 16, 2013 at 07:46 AM
Ayos, in 2 years DLSU will have a 4th year Jeron, a Kib and Perkins 3rd year, and a Mbala and Kobe rookie. Plus a 5th year AVO if he stays.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Superman on Oct 16, 2013 at 09:59 AM
Honestly, I don't want that Mbala player in La Salle. Masyado syang malakas baka masira pa ang chemistry ng current roster. Idevelop na lang yung mga rookies para patas lang ang laban. Parang ang dumi pating maglaro based on that youtube links. Larong egot, di tulad ni Perkins simple lang.

Historically, sino ba ang mga naging "dirty" player ng La Salle? Nakita ko lang nag tirahan sina Tyrone Bautista at ibang UST players during that finals pero yun lang.

Dinglasan in the late 80s
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Superman on Oct 16, 2013 at 10:06 AM
Krets, Andrada had ACL...just like when LA Revilla had Dengue and Diabetes problems, he sat out one year and "joined" the coaching staff...same with Yutien.

Jon/Onedown...LA Revilla will still play one more year and this has been confirmed...so DLSU will be intact + 3 more players to complete the 16-man roster...Yutien is No. 14 so 2 more...Thanks!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: onedown on Oct 16, 2013 at 10:50 AM
supes,

rules on players taking grad school or second degree has been changed? from what i read revilla is currently taking masters.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: pao9307 on Oct 16, 2013 at 10:52 AM
Ayos, in 2 years DLSU will have a 4th year Jeron, a Kib and Perkins 3rd year, and a Mbala and Kobe rookie. Plus a 5th year AVO if he stays.
good luck to the other schools then ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 16, 2013 at 01:13 PM
The six-foot-five Paras, who is this year’s World 3x3 slam dunk champion, was spotted at the victory party of the Green Archers last Saturday, where he was seen with businessman Eduardo “Danding” Cojuangco, who is considered La Salle’s top sports patron.

I’d be loyal kasi si Boss Danding pa 'yung tumutulong sa akin, so I’d be as loyal as possible,” Paras, who is currently a high school junior, told Spin.ph. “Malamang nga dun na ako. As of now, 'yun na muna siguro masasabi ko. I’m leaning towards that (playing for La Salle).”


Long have I ranted against these unfair and unethical practices.

In the US NCAA, this is considered BOTH unethical and illegal and will result in some heavy fines and school/player suspensions ...... here in Da Pilipins, it's out in the open for everyone to see and the unwitting press to marvel at.

On the flipside, we still can see some vanguards of truth. It's ironic that the man was once a member (via marriage) of the crony elite ...... but Tommy Manotoc was always a sportsman and played fair.

He and a few other alumni (Kurt Bachman) were the first, and perhaps the only ones, to lambast DLSU officials and it's recruiting practices e.g. fielding ineligible players from 2003-2006 ...... all leading up to DLSU being suspended back in 2006.

Here's his very truthful column, filed on the eve of this year's game 3.


Where’s the UAAP headed?
By Tommy Manotoc
Philippine Daily Inquirer
October 11, 2013 at 1:45 am
Tweet Facebook

It appears to me that the UAAP has now quite a situation in its hands.

With the way the outcomes of the games are panning out, the league, indeed, has much to think about. It seems to me that this is a perfect time, before the final game is played, for the board to rethink where the league is headed and what its intentions truly are.

Let’s not kid ourselves into believing that the UAAP is still only a collegiate league that merely facilitates the provision of scholarships to those athletes who can’t afford the tuition, promotes sportsmanship among its student-athletes, and provides a bit of entertainment for the college student and alumni alike.

Those days are long gone.  Just looking at the amounts of money that prized recruits are receiving boggles the mind.

Could this be why many of us seem to be losing our sense of objectivity, logic and civility, passing judgment and observation on the events that have transpired this far, only to the tune of one’s particular music and color?

The league is clearly masquerading as a college league. In reality, it has already turned commercial in a big way.

The schools involved have always had their pride on the line. What is different this time are the investments involved. The money spent by each school to reach the Final Four is enormous. Consequently, there is now too much at stake in each and every game that is played.

The question now is: Is this the direction the UAAP board wishes to continue to take? Is this the direction we—students, alumni, investors—wish the league to take?

If previously, these collegiate leagues were established to promote sportsmanship, and so that everyone involved should have a bit of fun, should we now just accept the fact that schools these days use the UAAP as part of their marketing strategy to promote themselves?

Perhaps the UAAP board should look into how they could put some checks and balances on how much is spent on the recruitment programs to make it fair game for all schools.

For at the rate it is going now, there will be only a couple of schools who will be able to build a competitive team.


Also, since we also want to develop our local big guys, including the Fil-Ams, the board could also consider putting limits on the number of imports of non-Filipino lineage in the lineup of the team.

Perhaps with these measures we may regain the values which had prompted the league’s founders to put up the UAAP in the first place.


http://m.inquirer.net/sports/?id=123737

sadly not many would agree with you or Tommy on this. Many basketball fanatics now a days would remain to their cause of being avid fans and supporters. Championship is all that matters, how the game is played would be secondary. Many schools would resort to all means just to get that championship NO MATTER WHAT. Gone are the days were the school would play for pride or players for that matter. Nowadays when you hear of players playing really well in their early years, only three schools would come to mind when they play college basketball. Even in volleyball the same is true. Nowadays when money talks, a lot of people listen.

I dont even think this is going to improve at all, what with the PBA being run by the same people running the schools that is into getting blue chip players even as early as them learning how to walk. Talk about investing at the earliest.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: SiCkBoY on Oct 16, 2013 at 05:18 PM
^Which three schools are you referring to?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Wiggum on Oct 16, 2013 at 06:28 PM
From SPIN.ph again:

UAAP ban on foreign players imminent (http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/uaap-ban-on-foreign-players-imminent-as-league-reaches-consensus-says-top-official)

If this gets approved and they implement the ban on imports in Season 78, tatamaan nito si Mbala and the ADMU imports? 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 16, 2013 at 07:29 PM
From SPIN.ph again:

UAAP ban on foreign players imminent (http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/uaap-ban-on-foreign-players-imminent-as-league-reaches-consensus-says-top-official)

If this gets approved and they implement the ban on imports in Season 78, tatamaan nito si Mbala and the ADMU imports? 

No. Teams will only be prohibited from recruiting foreign players by 2015. Foreign players recruited before then but are just serving residency will still be allowed to play. That is if the UAAP decides to copy the NCAA version of the ban.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 16, 2013 at 11:51 PM
Another addition to La Salle

Kobe Paras picks La Salle over UP, report says

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/10/15/13/kobe-paras-picks-la-salle-over-report-says



Di pa naman daw done deal, only if he goes to school here.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/10/16/13/kobe-paras-not-yet-done-deal-dlsu

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 17, 2013 at 07:05 AM
sadly not many would agree with you or Tommy on this. Many basketball fanatics now a days would remain to their cause of being avid fans and supporters. Championship is all that matters, how the game is played would be secondary. Many schools would resort to all means just to get that championship NO MATTER WHAT. Gone are the days were the school would play for pride or players for that matter. Nowadays when you hear of players playing really well in their early years, only three schools would come to mind when they play college basketball. Even in volleyball the same is true. Nowadays when money talks, a lot of people listen.

I dont even think this is going to improve at all, what with the PBA being run by the same people running the schools that is into getting blue chip players even as early as them learning how to walk. Talk about investing at the earliest.

Yup, it's the sad truth bro ......
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: sardaukar on Oct 17, 2013 at 07:43 AM
Di pa naman daw done deal, only if he goes to school here.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/10/16/13/kobe-paras-not-yet-done-deal-dlsu



I'm from La Salle but I hope he gets to play in the U.S. It would be a good opportunity for him. Basta hindi lang siya bangko. Kung hindi, sayang lang.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: brainwashed on Oct 17, 2013 at 07:54 AM
Another addition to La Salle

Kobe Paras picks La Salle over UP, report says

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/10/15/13/kobe-paras-picks-la-salle-over-report-says

parang hindi naman definite yung pagcommit ni Kobe. sabi lang niya na sa ngayon wala siyang dahilan para di maging loyal sa La Salle. yan ang pagkakaintindi ko base sa article.

Di pa naman daw done deal, only if he goes to school here.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/10/16/13/kobe-paras-not-yet-done-deal-dlsu

pero sa article na ito sinabi na si Benjie Paras ang definite na nagcommit na sa La Salle papasok si Kobe kung dito mag-aaral.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: toys4geeks on Oct 17, 2013 at 09:34 AM
+1 or not eh masarap subaybayan ang La Salle if they can keep the streak --
two peat,
three peat,

whatever peat, mukhang La Salle will be  malu-peat  O0
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: pao9307 on Oct 17, 2013 at 10:48 AM
babaha ng beer sa taft mamaya ;D
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 18, 2013 at 04:27 PM
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/10/18/13/feus-terrence-romeo-joins-pba-draft

ungas lang din  :P
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Superman on Oct 18, 2013 at 04:30 PM
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/10/18/13/feus-terrence-romeo-joins-pba-draft

ungas lang din  :P

Anak ng...
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 18, 2013 at 06:04 PM
laway? haha
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 18, 2013 at 10:41 PM
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/10/18/13/feus-terrence-romeo-joins-pba-draft

ungas lang din  :P

sana ma draft sya tapos unang laban si tubid agad ang makaharap
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 18, 2013 at 11:20 PM
I'm no fan of the guy but Romeo's decision to join the draft makes a bit of sense. He's not mature enough as a player yet but 1 more year with FEU won't really help with that. Kasama pa niya si RR Garcia and he was a ball hog already. Paano pa kung wala na siyang kaagaw sa bola next year? Nash Racela can't handle him. Kita naman sa collapse ng FEU sa 2nd round.

Joining the PBA could be good for him. Tougher coaches and tougher players. His antics won't work in the PBA. If he wants to get playing time, kailangan niya baguhin laro niya. That will speed up his maturation. He's no Calvin Abueva. He can't play the same way he did in college and expect to be successful in the PBA. He'll have to change fast. If he stayed with FEU, lalo lang siyang magiging buwaya.

And if he played 1 more year for FEU, hindi na masyado mabango pangalan niya by the time magpadraft siya. He can't join the draft in 2014 kasi sa August na uli yung draft at ongoing pa UAAP nun. He'll have to join in 2015 na. This year, he's coming off an MVP season and there are teams that need someone like him.

Krets, Andrada had ACL...just like when LA Revilla had Dengue and Diabetes problems, he sat out one year and "joined" the coaching staff...same with Yutien.

Jon/Onedown...LA Revilla will still play one more year and this has been confirmed...so DLSU will be intact + 3 more players to complete the 16-man roster...Yutien is No. 14 so 2 more...Thanks!

Hindi na yata. He applied for the PBA draft already.

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/archers-hero-la-revilla-the-last-to-sign-up-among-record-84-rookie-hopefuls
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Superman on Oct 19, 2013 at 02:34 AM
Yes sir...LA decided today to join the PBA draft so starting PG next year would be Thomas, back-up is Kib. Good luck to LA!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 19, 2013 at 09:56 AM
^ Kib I think is better than Torres, konting maturity lang.. 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 19, 2013 at 02:21 PM
^ Kib I think is better than Torres, konting maturity lang.. 

Sorry to disagree but Torres was one of the reasons why DLSU won the Championship.
Torres played quality minutes and hit timely shots (including that TREY that gave DLSU the lead after trailing by 15 pts).
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 19, 2013 at 04:39 PM
Yes sir...LA decided today to join the PBA draft so starting PG next year would be Thomas, back-up is Kib. Good luck to LA!

DLSU's Revilla beats PBA draft deadline as list swells to record 84

http://ph.sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--dlsu-s-revilla-beats-pba-draft-deadline-as-list-swells-to-record-84-035111309.html
 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 19, 2013 at 07:55 PM
This upcoming rookie pool is deep and it's gonna be a long drafting night for the PBA Teams.
Kikita nanaman un Lina Group of Companies from these rookies.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 20, 2013 at 12:18 PM
pardon my ignorance, was there ever a time a player out of high school was allowed to play or drafted in the PBA?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 20, 2013 at 12:31 PM
pardon my ignorance, was there ever a time a player out of high school was allowed to play or drafted in the PBA?

IIRC the last one was Terry Saldana .....
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 20, 2013 at 01:40 PM
^ afaik may number of units sa college na required before maging eligible.. di ko lang sure when it was implemented..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Oct 21, 2013 at 08:24 AM
San Beda vs Letran later at 6PM ;D

http://sports.inquirer.net/125391/knights-eye-no-1-seeding-vs-lions
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 21, 2013 at 11:33 AM
IIRC the last one was Terry Saldana .....

tyvm for the info sir new, nang yari din pala ito sa PBA
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: oweidah on Oct 28, 2013 at 12:02 PM
IF true, malaking koga-guhan ito, byers http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/10/28/13/cagers-stint-outside-tourney-may-dq-san-beda
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 28, 2013 at 01:58 PM
IF true, malaking koga-guhan ito, byers http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/10/28/13/cagers-stint-outside-tourney-may-dq-san-beda

Hmm, this is interesting ...... supposed infraction came out, just as the playoffs are about to start.

Sad to say, but a few NCAA players, from the recent past, were known to have played in larong labas ...... all do it for the quick cash that local politicos and businessmen payout on these local leagues. 

Let's just hope that any investigation is done fast and fair.

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Hitman on Oct 28, 2013 at 03:15 PM
Nagtataka lang ako, tapos na UAAP pero bakit ang tagal matapos ng NCAA?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 28, 2013 at 03:30 PM
Nagtataka lang ako, tapos na UAAP pero bakit ang tagal matapos ng NCAA?

They have more teams hence more games. NCAA has 10 teams so a total of 18 games per team in the elims. UAAP only has 14 total elim games per team. Aside from the hiatus nung FIBA-Asia, may mga games din na na-cancel dahil sa sama ng panahon.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Nov 03, 2013 at 10:58 PM
Here's the list of UAAP/NCAA players who made it so far in the 2013 PBA draft

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/11/03/13/slaughter-top-pick-2013-pba-draft

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Verbl Kint on Nov 04, 2013 at 06:42 AM
Surprisingly, Alaska, a known DLSU bailiwick, chose Blue Eagle Ryan Buenafe.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 04, 2013 at 07:05 AM
Surprisingly, Alaska, a known DLSU bailiwick, chose Blue Eagle Ryan Buenafe.

ALASKA is more known as a Filam bailiwick ..... aside from Don Allado & Mike Cortez (who was a consensus top pick), cant recall to much notable DLSU draftees for this team.

ALASKA even had the chance and slot to draft Renren Ritualo, but instead chose an unheralded Filam Migs Noble ..... Noble turned out to be a major bust though.

Longtime manager (newly retired) Joaqui Trillo and Bachmann are alumni, but are known to draft high reward-type of players (Thoss, Abueva, etc) regardless of affiliation.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Nov 07, 2013 at 03:07 PM
Letran is through to the Finals. They won 85-58 vs San Sebastian. Almazan had 19 pts, 22 rebs and 9 blocks. Ang laki ng improvement ng batang 'to. Palaki lang sya ng katawan and he'll make an impact in the PBA, especially on defense.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Nov 07, 2013 at 03:51 PM
Letran is through to the Finals. They won 85-58 vs San Sebastian. Almazan had 19 pts, 22 rebs and 9 blocks. Ang laki ng improvement ng batang 'to. Palaki lang sya ng katawan and he'll make an impact in the PBA, especially on defense.

That is why i prefer Almazan over Sangalang even over the softy Slaughter who with his height, i dont think he can dominate in the PBA unless he eventually can take those very rough physical contacts.
I still recall Fajardo in his debut cut his chin/lips goin up against Belga.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Nov 07, 2013 at 04:16 PM
That is why i prefer Almazan over Sangalang even over the softy Slaughter who with his height, i dont think he can dominate in the PBA unless he eventually can take those very rough physical contacts.
I still recall Fajardo in his debut cut his chin/lips goin up against Belga.

Sangalang is still better than Almazan. He's shorter but he's still a pretty good rebounder. Di rin naman siya takot makipagbanggaan. His defense is also decent. He may not be blocking shots as much as Almazan does but he can hold his own. Yung lamang talaga ni Sangalang is that he has a post game. Matalino maglaro, very adaptable at maganda ang foot work. If he bulks up, he has the potential of becoming a Sonny Thoss type of player.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: puffalan84 on Nov 07, 2013 at 05:14 PM
Arriba Letran.. :)..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Nov 07, 2013 at 05:19 PM
It's Letran vs San Beda again. Game 1 starts Monday, Nov 11 at MOA Arena.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: oweidah on Nov 11, 2013 at 05:07 PM
1-0 go sb fight!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: toys4geeks on Nov 11, 2013 at 07:00 PM
There any DVD media available for the UAAP finals?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Nov 11, 2013 at 07:11 PM
There any DVD media available for the UAAP finals?

I think it is only available in the school who won. DLSU may have one.

I have in my collection a very nice DVD with slipcase pa and transparent plastic inside casing of the FEU DLSU Finals (Arwind Santos time) which I got from FEU c/o of my mom who used to be univ dean then.  Yes, FEU won.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Nov 13, 2013 at 06:28 PM
When is Game 2 of Letran vs San Beda?
I wish the Knights can win Game 2 to force a rubber match.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: puffalan84 on Nov 13, 2013 at 07:46 PM
When is Game 2 of Letran vs San Beda?
I wish the Knights can win Game 2 to force a rubber match.



tomorrow bro.. game 3 is on saturday (if necessary).

Go Letran
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Nov 14, 2013 at 05:04 PM
Letran ties it after a 79-74 win. Winner take all Saturday.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Nov 14, 2013 at 09:19 PM
Great game by Letran.
I will cheer for them come Saturday.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Nov 14, 2013 at 10:49 PM
Watched the game live.  Great game by Mark Cruz of Letran.  What an awesome player despite his size.  San Beda had some bad executions in the end game. 

Yup.  Game 3 on Saturday :D  Just like last year eh?

Will SBC retain the crown? Or will we have a new Champs this year?

Exciting ;D 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Nov 16, 2013 at 08:42 PM
Congratz to San Beda for winning the NCAA Championship.
Their import really spelled the difference during the end game with his defense.
Art De la Cruz very deserving to be named MVP of the finals.
He was a huge loss to Ateneo but a tremendous gain for the Lions.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: oweidah on Nov 17, 2013 at 01:03 PM
lions roared 4!
Trivia letran coach caloy garcia eh caloy loyzaga legend lion hehehe sana lauro pra bagay
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Nov 18, 2013 at 01:59 PM
Congratz to San Beda for winning the NCAA Championship.
Their import really spelled the difference during the end game with his defense.
Art De la Cruz very deserving to be named MVP of the finals.
He was a huge loss to Ateneo but a tremendous gain for the Lions.

Yes. Tough victory for the Lions.  Go San Beda Fight!!  I am a Red Lion but I have to give credit to the Letran Knights for their never say die attitude.  Clearly, they had the leaner bench. But they ALMOST beat us.  Credit to a great coach in Caloy Garcia and my main man Mark Cruz, who at 5'6", stood most tall among them.  Buo ang loob at hayup sa diskarte itong batang ito.  Walang takot to attack the basket and create plays when the Knights need it most.  Baser Amer played well but I noticed he was tentative in crucial moments, unlike Mark Cruz who challenged everybody including Ola.  At one play, he missed the shot but got the offensive rebound and the basket -- VERSUS OLA!!  Had Letran won, Mark Cruz would have been the Finals MVP hands down.

But, in the end, San Beda was the better team.  Congrats to my Red Lions!!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Nov 18, 2013 at 03:56 PM
Defensive stops by OLA and clutch baskets by De la Cruz gave the Lions the 4peat.
After watching the 1st half of the game, i really thought Letran would win it all and i never thought it would be De la Cruz bailing the Lions out.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Nov 18, 2013 at 04:02 PM
Up by 2 pts and ball possession with less than 10 seconds left, sabi ko wag lang mag steal panalo na ito.  Potek na steal ng Letran!  Buti na lang na steal ulit ng San Beda and was fouled for 2 free throws, hence the final score. 

Whew, what a game.  Tumaas ang BP ko hahaha!! 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: oweidah on Nov 18, 2013 at 04:23 PM
only dela rosa gradustes. Team still intact. Fight for 5!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: frootloops on Nov 29, 2013 at 02:29 AM
(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a616/estuardela02/sanbeda_zps0ac00444.png)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Nov 29, 2013 at 05:37 AM
(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a616/estuardela02/sanbeda_zps0ac00444.png)

Pwede!!
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 29, 2013 at 07:13 AM
maglalaro kaya yung mga na-draft na?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Wiggum on Nov 29, 2013 at 08:18 AM
^ And will the incoming players be fielded (ex. DLSU's Mbala)? Hope this is going to be televised.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: sardaukar on Nov 29, 2013 at 03:55 PM
Mbala won't be available to play until 2015.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Wiggum on Nov 29, 2013 at 05:02 PM
^ But this game is just an exhibition match and not a UAAP game. Isn't he already playing for DLSU in other tournaments?
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: sardaukar on Nov 29, 2013 at 05:57 PM
Has he? I have not read about that.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Nov 29, 2013 at 07:05 PM
^ But this game is just an exhibition match and not a UAAP game. Isn't he already playing for DLSU in other tournaments?

I think he can play since it's just an exhibition game.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Wiggum on Dec 03, 2013 at 06:28 AM
From AksyonTV Sports: 'Champions for a Cause' will air on TV5 on December 7 from the SMART Araneta Coliseum at 12nn.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: sardaukar on Dec 16, 2013 at 08:12 PM
Kobe Paras leaves for US, joins LA high team (http://www.philstar.com/sports/2013/12/16/1268791/kobe-paras-leaves-us-joins-la-high-team)

Good for him. I hope he does well over there. And hopefully he can be the cornerstone of future Gilas teams.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 16, 2013 at 10:16 PM
Kobe Paras leaves for US, joins LA high team (http://www.philstar.com/sports/2013/12/16/1268791/kobe-paras-leaves-us-joins-la-high-team)

Good for him. I hope he does well over there. And hopefully he can be the cornerstone of future Gilas teams.

may matinding player na namang papalakihin ang SMC Corporation, siguradong pag time na para mag pro, by CROOK or by CROOK, sa kanila mag lalaro si Kobe Paras, assuming hindi sya ma draft ng NBA.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Verbl Kint on Dec 16, 2013 at 11:56 PM
Bobby Ray Parks also left NU to try his luck in the US. 

Probably the only pinoy baller in his teens ever mentioned in Sports Illustrated, I hope he can reach his potential in the US.  Eric Altamirano ran a very rigid system that didn't really benefit Bobby Ray.

The next 5 years look good for our Team Pilipinas.  Let's hope politics and greed don't stand in the way of us getting the best basketball team possible.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Dec 17, 2013 at 06:40 PM
Kobe Paras leaves for US, joins LA high team (http://www.philstar.com/sports/2013/12/16/1268791/kobe-paras-leaves-us-joins-la-high-team)

Good for him. I hope he does well over there. And hopefully he can be the cornerstone of future Gilas teams.

I thought he'll be playing for DLSU.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Dec 17, 2013 at 08:08 PM
Not really a shoo-in for Kobe because the father mentioned he had other options even if he is under the care of Danding. If opportunities there are bright, good for them. If not, they can always come back here just like Japeth.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Dec 17, 2013 at 08:39 PM
Bobby Ray Parks also left NU to try his luck in the US. 

Probably the only pinoy baller in his teens ever mentioned in Sports Illustrated, I hope he can reach his potential in the US.  Eric Altamirano ran a very rigid system that didn't really benefit Bobby Ray.

The next 5 years look good for our Team Pilipinas.  Let's hope politics and greed don't stand in the way of us getting the best basketball team possible.

No doubt Ray Parks Jr has a good shooting touch but he is not as hard driving as his Dad used to be.
If only he can attack the basket like Jerone Teng then he'll be hard to stop.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: DVD_Freak on Dec 17, 2013 at 09:20 PM
No doubt Ray Parks Jr has a good shooting touch but he is not as hard driving as his Dad used to be.
If only he can attack the basket like Jerone Teng then he'll be hard to stop.

He has a better chance to succeed in the US with shooting though. The game right now is geard towards wing or perimeter players as evidenced by household names such as Wiggins and Jabari Parker.  A premium on shooting seems to be the trend nowadays.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Apr 11, 2014 at 07:05 PM
FINALLY, the actual rootcause is being tackled and discussed in the open.

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/excessive-perks-given-to-athletes-root-cause-of-uaap-problems-says-feus-molina

Like I've long ranted in these UAAP/NCAA threads, these cronies and tycoons who openly RECRUIT and PAY high-school standouts (even non HS seniors) and their relatives, are the rootcause of whatever ills the UAAP & NCAA have.

It's no secret that guys like Danding Cojuangco, MVP & Sy's henchmen openly pirate, recruit and PAY HS standouts, their relatives and even potential college transferees (NU's Santiago sisters, anyone?) using their checkbooks.

This has been the norm for decades now and its a mystery that nobody seems to deplore these unethical practices.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Apr 11, 2014 at 07:14 PM
FINALLY, the actual rootcause is being tackled and discussed in the open.

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/excessive-perks-given-to-athletes-root-cause-of-uaap-problems-says-feus-molina

Like I've long ranted in these UAAP/NCAA threads, these cronies and tycoons who openly RECRUIT and PAY high-school standouts (even non HS seniors) and their relatives, are the rootcause of whatever ills the UAAP & NCAA have.

It's no secret that guys like Danding Cojuangco, MVP & Sy's henchmen openly pirate, recruit and PAY HS standouts, their relatives and even potential college transferees (NU's Santiago sisters, anyone?) using their checkbooks.

This has been the norm for decades now and its a mystery that nobody seems to deplore these unethical practices.


That's ugly. That's cheating. But what can we do? Those young athletes want their dreams come true so we can't blame them for accepting the best offers to them as they try to make the best out of their careers.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Verbl Kint on Apr 15, 2014 at 04:54 AM
If the US NCAA can impose it, why can't we? 

Let's face it, the college leagues in the PH are highly commercialized and politicized, even on smaller leagues like the CESAFI and the Tiong Lian Basketball Association.

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Apr 15, 2014 at 08:33 AM
If the US NCAA can impose it, why can't we? 

Let's face it, the college leagues in the PH are highly commercialized and politicized, even on smaller leagues like the CESAFI and the Tiong Lian Basketball Association.

Impose what bro?
Title: Re: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: Verbl Kint on Apr 15, 2014 at 09:31 AM
Impose what bro?

Strict rules on amateurism.

http://www.ncaa.org/remaining-eligible-amateurism
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Apr 15, 2014 at 09:44 AM
Strict rules on amateurism.

http://www.ncaa.org/remaining-eligible-amateurism

It's good that the US NCAA has streamlined their existing rules and regulations ...... however, they've always disallowed direct "benefits" being given by benefactors to student/prospects.

Take this recent article ......

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/kobe-paras-move-to-us-has-blessings-of-la-salle-backer-cojuangco-says-dad-benjie-v02

“As of now syempre, priority pa rin niya yun (commitment with La Salle). Syempre si Boss Danding naman kasi yung nagpapa-aral sa kanila sa high school … silang magkapatid (ni Andre), syempre, priority pa rin namin ang La Salle,” said Paras.

Benjie Paras basically confirms that his son's HS schooling are funded by Danding Cojuangco (!) - all for the final goal of securing the services for the UAAP seniors.

How about Alvin Teng being hired as assistant-coach for SMCorp's ABL team, at about the same time that Jeron Teng committed to play for DLSU.

Even a whiff of such things will trigger an investigation in the US NCAA..
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: puffalan84 on Apr 15, 2014 at 10:02 AM
some schools can only offer "minutes per game" para ma retain ung players nila sa senior..

Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Apr 15, 2014 at 10:12 AM
some schools can only offer "minutes per game" para ma retain ung players nila sa senior..

Indeed, minuto lang ang pangako ...... itong sina Danding, etc. pag-aaralin ang HS prospect and/or babayaran ang mga kamag-anak mo.

Hindi tama ...... hindi patas. 
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Apr 15, 2014 at 01:09 PM
It's good that the US NCAA has streamlined their existing rules and regulations ...... however, they've always disallowed direct "benefits" being given by benefactors to student/prospects.

Take this recent article ......

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/kobe-paras-move-to-us-has-blessings-of-la-salle-backer-cojuangco-says-dad-benjie-v02

“As of now syempre, priority pa rin niya yun (commitment with La Salle). Syempre si Boss Danding naman kasi yung nagpapa-aral sa kanila sa high school … silang magkapatid (ni Andre), syempre, priority pa rin namin ang La Salle,” said Paras.

Benjie Paras basically confirms that his son's HS schooling are funded by Danding Cojuangco (!) - all for the final goal of securing the services for the UAAP seniors.

How about Alvin Teng being hired as assistant-coach for SMCorp's ABL team, at about the same time that Jeron Teng committed to play for DLSU.

Even a whiff of such things will trigger an investigation in the US NCAA..

Hard to say but if you are the father of a super athlete, you will also want him to get the best offer the world can give him.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: mattia on Apr 15, 2014 at 01:59 PM
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/356279/sports/campussports/uaap-ue-red-warriors-tap-derrick-pumaren-as-head-coach

Manong Derrick (Pumaren) is new head coach of the UE Warriors.

Younger brother Dindo who is former head coach of UE is his main assistant.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Apr 15, 2014 at 02:28 PM
Hard to say but if you are the father of a super athlete, you will also want him to get the best offer the world can give him.

Of course, I would want my son to get the best the world can give him ........ but what I've been seeing in the UAAP for a long time now - what parents want and what is ethical & fair can be two VERY different things.

Call me old-fashioned, I wouldn't take anyone's money just to get my son to commit to something down the road ...... it's not what I was taught growing up.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Apr 15, 2014 at 07:21 PM
Of course, I would want my son to get the best the world can give him ........ but what I've been seeing in the UAAP for a long time now - what parents want and what is ethical & fair can be two VERY different things.

Call me old-fashioned, I wouldn't take anyone's money just to get my son to commit to something down the road ...... it's not what I was taught growing up.


But who can resist the best offer being offered scholarships plus allowances and a bright future for the whole family by a certain investor?
As an investor of course you will only give the best offer if you see a good future of your investments and they just make those irresistable offers but they don't force those athletes to accept, its up to them to agree or reject the offers.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Apr 15, 2014 at 08:48 PM
But who can resist the best offer being offered scholarships plus allowances and a bright future for the whole family by a certain investor?
As an investor of course you will only give the best offer if you see a good future of your investments and they just make those irresistable offers but they don't force those athletes to accept.

That's exactly it bro ..... athletic scholarships are supposed to be offered by the school itself and not by private individuals who expect long-term athletic commitment.

Offering tuition, monetary allowances, jobs to relatives, etc to athletic prospects are clear-as-day, plain and simple - unethical practices.

You ask who can resist such an offer - count me as one ....... I'd prefer scholarships & allowances gained the traditional way.

Personally, it wont be hard for me to refuse a person such as Danding ...... the guy is a crook - he has stolen billions, stolen lives and has yet to see a day in jail.  ;)
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Apr 15, 2014 at 09:49 PM
That's exactly it bro ..... athletic scholarships are supposed to be offered by the school itself and not by private individuals who expect long-term athletic commitment.

Offering tuition, monetary allowances, jobs to relatives, etc to athletic prospects are clear-as-day, plain and simple - unethical practices.

You ask who can resist such an offer - count me as one ....... I'd prefer scholarships & allowances gained the traditional way.

Personally, it wont be hard for me to refuse a person such as Danding ...... the guy is a crook - he has stolen billions, stolen lives and has yet to see a day in jail.  ;)


Sad to say that schools are funded by these rich individuals so the school can only offer much if they receive much funds from them.
A good example is NU. What was NU before the SM Group took over and look at what they've achieved after the SM Group took over.
Regardless of what ethics involved, those talented young athletes are offered to study, play and represent respective schools.
In any field, if you are extremely good, irresistable offers will come and it all boils down if you will grab it or not and I say I'd be a hypocrite if I say I will to bite to the best offer that will secure my future.

DLSU via Danding chased Jerone Teng and his family to guarantee he'll play for the archers but they didn't do that for Jeric Teng coz they think Jeric isn't good enough to be offered that much.
Ateneo also didn't chase Jeric Teng to play for them so since no good offers by both Ateneo and DLSU, Jeric just settled with UST with assurance from Coach Pido that he'll get his minutes.
Do you think Jeric will end up with UST should there be irresistable offers from both Ateneo and DLSU after his Xavier days?

Tim Cone left Alaska for a better offer by the San Miguel Group and so did Ryan Gregorio and even Jong Uichico left the San Miguel Group for the MVP Group.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Apr 15, 2014 at 10:25 PM
Regardless of what ethics involved, those talented young athletes are offered to study, play and represent respective schools.
In any field, if you are extremely good, irresistable offers will come and it all boils down if you will grab it or not and I say I'd be a hypocrite if I say I will to bite to the best offer that will secure my future.

Tim Cone left Alaska for a better offer by the San Miguel Group and so did Ryan Gregorio and even Jong Uichico left the San Miguel Group for the MVP Group.

Tim Cone, Gregorio, Uichico, etc transferring to rival teams ...... these are professionals bro - normal market and business procedures apply to them.

The UAAP/NCAA is completely an amateur & scholastic league ...... schools offering scholarships & allowances are normal school practices.

When private individuals offer money, jobs, cars, etc to prospects and their relatives, it is completely unethical. In the US NCAA, it is considered ILLEGAL.

It's surprising that it took a long time for school officials and half-decent politicians to deplore such acts. Hope FEU & Sen. Pia Cayetano's initiative bear fruit soon.

==============================================================

I recall a scenario from the movie THE BLIND SIDE (based on a true story) ...... the female protagonist, Sandra Bullock, adopts a neglected boy out of the goodness of her heart.

It turns out, the boy (now NFL player Michael Oher) has supreme athletic skills and is soon being recruited by top NCAA colleges.

Two things from the movie that are are actually true items from the US NCAA.

1.) College recruitment is very formal. A letter of intent is sent out by colleges and should be formally replied to by the prospect.

2.) The adopting parents were investigated for possible NCAA recruitment violations due to the nature of their relationship e.g. adoption to ensure commitment to the parents alma mater.


Nakakatawa, kasi ganito lang kababaw, inimbestigahan na ng NCAA ...... may ilan na din na suspend sa US NCAA dahil sa pagtanggap ng jackets mula sa boosters.

Eh paano pa dito sa atin - lantaran na binibigyan nang tuition, pera, trabaho ang prospect, pero bale wala lang.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: steelcrazy on Apr 15, 2014 at 11:19 PM
Tim Cone, Gregorio, Uichico, etc transferring to rival teams ...... these are professionals bro - normal market and business procedures apply to them.

The UAAP/NCAA is completely an amateur & scholastic league ...... schools offering scholarships & allowances are normal school practices.

When private individuals offer money, jobs, cars, etc to prospects and their relatives, it is completely unethical. In the US NCAA, it is considered ILLEGAL.

It's surprising that it took a long time for school officials and half-decent politicians to deplore such acts. Hope FEU & Sen. Pia Cayetano's initiative bear fruit soon.

==============================================================

I recall a scenario from the movie THE BLIND SIDE (based on a true story) ...... the female protagonist, Sandra Bullock, adopts a neglected boy out of the goodness of her heart.

It turns out, the boy (now NFL player Michael Oher) has supreme athletic skills and is soon being recruited by top NCAA colleges.

Two things from the movie that are are actually true items from the US NCAA.

1.) College recruitment is very formal. A letter of intent is sent out by colleges and should be formally replied to by the prospect.

2.) The adopting parents were investigated for possible NCAA recruitment violations due to the nature of their relationship e.g. adoption to ensure commitment to the parents alma mater.


Nakakatawa, kasi ganito lang kababaw, inimbestigahan na ng NCAA ...... may ilan na din na suspend sa US NCAA dahil sa pagtanggap ng jackets mula sa boosters.

Eh paano pa dito sa atin - lantaran na binibigyan nang tuition, pera, trabaho ang prospect, pero bale wala lang.

That's the US. This is Philippines.

Education, Money, Work and a Bright Future. These are probably one's dream so who will ever resist those offers anyway? I won't.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: newwaveboy on Apr 15, 2014 at 11:43 PM
That's the US. This is Philippines.

Education, Money, Work and a Bright Future. These are probably one's dream so who will ever resist those offers anyway? I won't.

Yet the local NCAA & UAAP leagues were patterned after the US NCAA ...... besides, right or wrong shouldn't know any boundaries, right? That's my humble two-cents anyway.

I fully agree that education, money & work are the stuff of dreams ...... but to attain these things by compromising the things that I know is right and just - it's not for me.

Again, my humble two-cents worth.
Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: krets pulpol on Apr 21, 2014 at 12:54 AM
RIP Bryan Gahol of UP

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/354890/sports/basketball/ex-pba-player-bryan-gahol-companion-killed-in-skyway-crash-report

Nabasa ko lang while browsing the Horrible Road Mishaps of 2014 in Yahoo.PH

https://anc.yahoo.com/photos/slideshow-vehicle-crash-1397618971-slideshow/#crsl=%252Fphotos%252Fslideshow-vehicle-crash-1397618971-slideshow%252Fvehicles-1-photo-1397540348882.html

He had good prospect in UAAP but got injured.



Title: Re: NCAA / UAAP 2013
Post by: sardaukar on Jun 20, 2014 at 05:10 PM
Looks like he's having a successful stint in L.A.

Boys' basketball: Another guard named Kobe is ready to star in L.A. (http://www.latimes.com/sports/highschool/varsity-times/la-sp-vi-football-practice-restrictions-receive-final-approval-from-california-lawmakers-20140619-story.html)