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Title: all rounder DVD player
Post by: Zitr0 on Jan 13, 2012 at 11:22 PM
hello mga sirs/mam,

just wanted to ask kung anu sa ngayon ang masasabing good/very good all rounder DVD player?

things to consider:
1. region free
2. very good upscaling capability
3. very good stereo audio output
4. matibay

kung may USB capability would be a plus... :)
di rin needed maging BD capable po, just pure Audio CD/DVD capability.

salamat po sa mga inputs...
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: Philander on Jan 13, 2012 at 11:59 PM
You can't go wrong with Pioneer DVD players
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: warmaster on Jan 14, 2012 at 12:32 AM
i personally use a pioneer DV LX50 for DVDs and CDs. it's an excellent upscaler and CD player if I should say so myself.
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: Zitr0 on Jan 14, 2012 at 03:51 AM
i personally use a pioneer DV LX50 for DVDs and CDs. it's an excellent upscaler and CD player if I should say so myself.

hmm, so mukhang Pioneer parin ang King sa mga brands...?

BTW: @warmaster - mag kano sir ung ganyan model?
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: Stagea on Jan 14, 2012 at 06:26 AM
Mura na BDPs Master Zitro, baka gusto mo i-consider.
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: JDC168 on Jan 19, 2012 at 10:11 AM
hello mga sirs/mam,

just wanted to ask kung anu sa ngayon ang masasabing good/very good all rounder DVD player?

things to consider:
1. region free
2. very good upscaling capability
3. very good stereo audio output
4. matibay

kung may USB capability would be a plus... :)
di rin needed maging BD capable po, just pure Audio CD/DVD capability.

salamat po sa mga inputs...

Maybe my post in the other thread could be of help to you:

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,137345.msg1570644.html#msg1570644

May USB slot din sya.   ;)
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: Zitr0 on Jan 25, 2012 at 10:40 PM
thanks sir JDC, but that does not have my 2nd requirement po...

masters / idols, anung murang BD na region free DVD? not really in DB's yet, as in pang DVD disc and CD talaga ito...
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 25, 2012 at 10:48 PM
thanks sir JDC, but that does not have my 2nd requirement po...

masters / idols, anung murang BD na region free DVD? not really in DB's yet, as in pang DVD disc and CD talaga ito...

May BD drive ako pero hanggang ngayon, 2 pa lang ang BD ko.  :D I'm still using my pioneer dv=420. Ok naman ang performance niya as a DVD player. You can also use the digital output ng player for your tube DAC preamp.
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: Zitr0 on Jan 25, 2012 at 11:32 PM
un nga master eh, kaya di ko pa makita ung BD sakin talaga... hahaha! so pio 420? isis isip... hehehe!

BTW: any comments on its capability to upscale DVD movies vs using ung BD on DVD films?
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: Stagea on Jan 26, 2012 at 12:15 AM
un nga master eh, kaya di ko pa makita ung BD sakin talaga... hahaha! so pio 420? isis isip... hehehe!

BTW: any comments on its capability to upscale DVD movies vs using ung BD on DVD films?

I've had Pioneer upscaling DVD players dati. Mas maganda ang picture ng Cambridge at Marantz DVD players for me, mas mahal lang (pwedeng Toshiba kung gusto mo cheaper na decent pa din ang picture). Greatest problem ko sa Pioneer is mosquito noise saka lack of shadow and highlight detail. Pero maayos naman siya panoorin dahil punchy yung images at effective ang sharpening / edge enhancement nya. Yung stereo audio output ng Pioneer isn't bad for the price na din.
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 26, 2012 at 08:32 AM
un nga master eh, kaya di ko pa makita ung BD sakin talaga... hahaha! so pio 420? isis isip... hehehe!

BTW: any comments on its capability to upscale DVD movies vs using ung BD on DVD films?

I never noticed the upscaling ng Pio-420 ko.  :D Though yun BD player ko is BD drive ng PC. So technically, yun software ng PC ko ang nag-upscale. Yun mga 480p files ko, maganda siya and more than descent for me. Very smooth ang edges. Regarding 720p vs 1080p, not so noticable sa akin ang difference because 720p lang ang PJ ko. Old model pa.

I also tried the Pio-420 as a cd player using the analog line output. For me, mas-bright siya sa CA ko.

Kailan ka papasyal? Para makita ko yun PC na binuo s akin ni master jedi guru Stagea plus his PJ calibration?  :D
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: ariel on Mar 19, 2012 at 11:15 AM
tips para sa pioneer LX50 owners. you can replace (but at your own risk) the audio DAC and audio output
op amps with better parts. the stock DAC is burr brown 1796 (already a very good DAC) and can be directly replaced with 1792 (burr brown top of the line) As for the opamps, you can replace them with parts from NS. excellent cd/sacd/dvd-audio player!!
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: warmaster on Mar 19, 2012 at 11:25 AM
tips para sa pioneer LX50 owners. you can replace (but at your own risk) the audio DAC and audio output
op amps with better parts. the stock DAC is burr brown 1796 (already a very good DAC) and can be directly replaced with 1792 (burr brown top of the line) As for the opamps, you can replace them with parts from NS. excellent cd/sacd/dvd-audio player!!

thanks for the tip. might let the one year warranty pass before i have it modded. any idea where i can have it modded? 
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: ariel on Mar 19, 2012 at 12:20 PM
I just got the parts from the internet (don't know if they are still giving free samples).
removed the audio board and brought it to the cellphone repair technicians to replace the parts. I just paid 100Php for the labor (replacement)
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: Superman on Mar 22, 2012 at 02:52 PM
In my personal experience, there is none...
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Mar 22, 2012 at 06:59 PM
best Bd, dvd, cd player... HTPC.  ;)
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: PatienceHope on May 22, 2012 at 06:33 AM
Philippines is in region 0 which mean na region free tau,so mostly na nabibili na ngaun na dvd's are coded region 0, so you don't need to worry about looking for region free na dvd player.
The reasons lang naman kasi na my mga region codes are first this will allow the film distributor to release a dvd and sell certain movies in dvd in  different price.kasi film distributors releases dvd's na may mga magagandang special features, dito na mag fall ung codes kasi may mga countries na willing to pay more just to get the movies.so tau since included sa third world country though region free ung code natin selected ung mga dvd's kasi nagbabase din to sa mga bibili nung dvd.at the reson na implemented etong mga region codes na eto para to prevent releases ng film.so may mga films kasi na ipapalbas pa lang sa ibang country na sa ibang country released na in dvd so this is to prevent piracy ,pero sad to say na may lumulusot pa rin.
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: Stagea on May 22, 2012 at 07:15 AM
Philippines is in region 0 which mean na region free tau,so mostly na nabibili na ngaun na dvd's are coded region 0, so you don't need to worry about looking for region free na dvd player.
The reasons lang naman kasi na my mga region codes are first this will allow the film distributor to release a dvd and sell certain movies in dvd in  different price.kasi film distributors releases dvd's na may mga magagandang special features, dito na mag fall ung codes kasi may mga countries na willing to pay more just to get the movies.so tau since included sa third world country though region free ung code natin selected ung mga dvd's kasi nagbabase din to sa mga bibili nung dvd.at the reson na implemented etong mga region codes na eto para to prevent releases ng film.so may mga films kasi na ipapalbas pa lang sa ibang country na sa ibang country released na in dvd so this is to prevent piracy ,pero sad to say na may lumulusot pa rin.

We fall under DVD Region Code 3.
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: PatienceHope on May 23, 2012 at 06:39 AM
You should research,Region 0(Region Free) is widely use by China and Philippines. May mga region codes na they indicate na southeast asia-pero it doesn't mean na covered tau ng region three.dahil latest reports widely used natin ang region 0.
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: Philander on May 23, 2012 at 08:00 AM
^^Seriously? I think you should be the one to research..

Anyway, Phils is region 3. There is no 'Region 0' assigned for a country or a region. It just tells that the DVD is region free and can be use in any DVD player with or without region coding.
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: PatienceHope on May 24, 2012 at 02:12 PM
 ;It's your prerogative whether you want or doesn't want to consider my suggestion,I'm just giving a fact and I'm not giving anyone here to what i suggest....There's no need for you to be rude men ;)
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: Stagea on May 24, 2012 at 02:38 PM
;It's your prerogative whether you want or doesn't want to consider my suggestion,I'm just giving a fact and I'm not giving anyone here to what i suggest....There's no need for you to be rude men ;)

Most kasi dito matagal nang may DVDs, at matagal na ding alam na Region 3 ang Pilipinas. Most of us have players na may region code logo sa likod and a number 3, denoting DVD region code 3. It is true that many of these players sell unlocked or can be unlocked, but that does not change the fact na we fall under region code 3.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/DVD-Regions_with_key-2.svg/400px-DVD-Regions_with_key-2.svg.png)


 
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: jao143 on May 24, 2012 at 02:45 PM
Most kasi dito matagal nang may DVDs, at matagal na ding alam na Region 3 ang Pilipinas. Most of us have players na may region code logo sa likod and a number 3, denoting DVD region code 3. It is true that many of these players sell unlocked or can be unlocked, but that does not change the fact na we fall under region code 3.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/DVD-Regions_with_key-2.svg/400px-DVD-Regions_with_key-2.svg.png)


 

+100

And because of this region coding nang mga players and DVD, napabili ako nang region free na DVD Player ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: Nelson de Leon on May 25, 2012 at 09:21 PM
;It's your prerogative whether you want or doesn't want to consider my suggestion,I'm just giving a fact and I'm not giving anyone here to what i suggest....There's no need for you to be rude men ;)

Can you back up your facts with references so as to enlighten us? I think wala naman rudeness akong nakikita kay Philander.
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: Philander on May 26, 2012 at 06:48 AM
;It's your prerogative whether you want or doesn't want to consider my suggestion,I'm just giving a fact and I'm not giving anyone here to what i suggest....There's no need for you to be rude men ;)

I maybe rude, but Stagea said, it doesnt change the fact that we fall under region code 3.

Too much patronizing bootleg and pirated DVDs? Just asking.

You can always check the back casing of each DVD in a legitimate local DVD stores, you can see this logo
(http://d3d71ba2asa5oz.cloudfront.net/62000501/images/region%203%20logo%20wire.jpg)
to at least 90% of the DVDs being sold there

Save yourself from providing wrong information. Learn basics of DVD first :)
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: kraut on May 26, 2012 at 09:31 AM
yup, na try ko na din 'to before unlocking the region code of my philips dvd (even asked here on this forum for the step by step)......

since region 3 yung player ayaw mag play yung mga region 1 kong dvds, accept nya lang yung mga region 3 and those dvds i personally bought locally (e.i. astrovision).

changed to region 1 code, only region 1 dvds played and did not accept the region 3 discs.

changed to region 0 code, both region 1 and 3 dvd discs now accepted/played by the player.


also, I own beatles anthology which was coded to '0' code which i bought from ert. it accepted/played before and after the region code update on my player.

 
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: kraut on May 26, 2012 at 09:33 AM
hope this helps, this is based on my actual test during the region code update on my dvd player :)
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: warmaster on May 26, 2012 at 10:30 AM
my first dvd player was a playstation 2 bought when it launched in japan (region 2?). didn't know about region codes back then and just wondered why the local dvd's i rented from blockbuster wouldn't work (region 3). so unless there's a dark secret or conspiracy theory that the philippines is or was originally region 0 we'd all like to hear it.
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: PatienceHope on Jun 27, 2012 at 05:24 AM
Duh!!!Vcds pa lang ,original na ang binibili ko.....
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 27, 2012 at 06:17 AM
From:
http://www.hkcinema.co.uk/Articles/dvdregioncodes.html
(http://www.hkcinema.co.uk/artwork/dvdregionmap.gif)
Region 0
Plays on all regions
Region 1
US and Canada
Region 2
Europe, Japan, Middle East, Egypt, Greenland, South Africa
Region 3
Taiwan, Korea, Philippines, Indonesia, Hong Kong
Region 4
Australia, New Zealand, South America, Central America, Caribbean
Region 5
Russia, Eastern Europe, Africa, India, North Korea, Mongolia
Region 6
China
Region 7
Reserved
Region 8
Special International Venues (Airplanes, Cruise Ships etc)

from:
http://www.dvdbuyingguide.com/codefreedvd/bigfaq.html
(http://www.dvdbuyingguide.com/dvd-graphics/world.gif)

From:
http://hometheater.about.com/cs/dvdlaserdisc/a/aaregioncodesa.htm
REGION 1 -- USA, Canada
REGION 2 -- Japan, Europe, South Africa, Middle East, Greenland
REGION 3 -- S.Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Parts of South East Asia
REGION 4 -- Australia, New Zealand, Latin America (including Mexico)
REGION 5 -- Eastern Europe, Russia, India, Africa
REGION 6 -- China
REGION 7 -- Reserved for Unspecified Special Use
REGION 8 -- Reserved for Cruise Ships, Airlines, etc...
REGION 0 or REGION ALL -- Discs are uncoded and can be played Worldwide, however, PAL discs must be played in a PAL-compatible unit and NTSC discs must be played in an NTSC-compatible unit.

Duh!!!Vcds pa lang ,original na ang binibili ko.....
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: coastal on Jun 27, 2012 at 06:35 AM
AFAIK, only concert or music videos dvds sold here are region free and the rest Reg 3.
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: Philander on Jun 27, 2012 at 06:44 AM
Duh!!!Vcds pa lang ,original na ang binibili ko.....

So your point is?
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: Daiguru on Sep 15, 2012 at 09:33 AM
anu naman kaya ang purpose nila bakit kelangan pa ng mga region na ganyan sa mga dvd disc?
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: Carlo777 on Oct 14, 2012 at 01:51 AM
My Pioneer DVD player 410V is pretty much in bad shape already, so I need to replace it. I'd like to try another brand, any suggestions?

Should be ALL-REGION (We still have a big number of Region 2 Japan DVDs)

Thanks.
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: coastal on Oct 14, 2012 at 03:16 PM
Previously, I think only Pioneer dvd players (220, 420, 600, 610) that were sold locally are region-free (without hacking) but I think the newer models are already locked to Region 3 along with LG, Samsung and Sony dvd players. I'm not sure about lesser known brands, i.e. Next Base, Ganzklar, etc.if these are region-free. Instead, been using for sometime a Philips BD3100 as bd/dvd player (default to Region 3) but can easily be hacked via the supplied remote for region-free dvd play.
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: Carlo777 on Oct 14, 2012 at 04:46 PM
Previously, I think only Pioneer dvd players (220, 420, 600, 610) that were sold locally are region-free (without hacking) but I think the newer models are already locked to Region 3 along with LG, Samsung and Sony dvd players. I'm not sure about lesser known brands, i.e. Next Base, Ganzklar, etc.if these are region-free. Instead, been using for sometime a Philips BD3100 as bd/dvd player (default to Region 3) but can easily be hacked via the supplied remote for region-free dvd play.

Thanks I'll look at that player! How much did it cost you?
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: Stagea on Oct 14, 2012 at 06:33 PM
Previously, I think only Pioneer dvd players (220, 420, 600, 610) that were sold locally are region-free (without hacking) but I think the newer models are already locked to Region 3 along with LG, Samsung and Sony dvd players. I'm not sure about lesser known brands, i.e. Next Base, Ganzklar, etc.if these are region-free. Instead, been using for sometime a Philips BD3100 as bd/dvd player (default to Region 3) but can easily be hacked via the supplied remote for region-free dvd play.

Local Yamaha and Cambridge Audio DVD players used to be region free too, I believe. :)
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: Philander on Oct 14, 2012 at 06:50 PM
My Pioneer DVD player 410V is pretty much in bad shape already, so I need to replace it. I'd like to try another brand, any suggestions?

Should be ALL-REGION (We still have a big number of Region 2 Japan DVDs)

Thanks.

Just check ansons, they have a new pioneer dvd player for only Php 1390. Im sure there are some ways to make it region free.

Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: anya618 on Oct 14, 2012 at 06:53 PM
try checking the model number first then check at this site if meron region hack

http://www.videohelp.com/dvdhacks?dvdplayer=&hits=50&Search=Search
Title: Re: all rounder DVD player
Post by: coastal on Oct 15, 2012 at 10:13 AM
Thanks I'll look at that player! How much did it cost you?

Got mine here at PDVD for 3K c/o juwawi13. Haven't been seeing the same item fs here. Maybe you could try at sulit.