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Title: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Apr 17, 2012 at 12:32 PM
Mine died last night with the dreaded "12 blinks of death".

A few months before it happened, the panel showed "green dots" randomly scattered in the viewing area.  These green dots appeared for a few second and dissapear, with no pattern of the time it will reappear.  Then last night the sad news; my plasma shut down and the power lamp in front blinked red for 12 times in repeating pattern.  I googled this blinking pattern and I found out:

"All Panasonic Plasmas feature a protection circuit that will force the TV to shut down in case of a problem. _The malfunctioning part can be identified by the numbers of blinks of the power light."

*BLINKS PROBLEM CHECK POINT*
 
1 blink STB 5v SENSE Time Out DG-Board
2 blinks 15v SOS D-Board
3 blinks 3.3v SOS D-Board 
4 blinks Power SOS P-Board
5 blinks 5v SOS D-Board 
6 blinks Driver SOS 1 SU-Board / SD-Board / SC-Board (SC Energy Recovery Circuit) 
7 blinks Driver SOS 2 SU-Board / SD-Board / SC-Board (SC Floating Voltage Area)
8 blinks Driver SOS 3 SS-Board SS Energy Recovery Circuit
9 blinks Panel Config SOS
10 blinks Sub 5v SOS / Main 3.3v SOS DG-Board DTV 9v SOS / Tuner Power SOS
11 blinks Fan SOS PB-Board
12 blinks Sound SOS H-Board
13 blinks Communication Error with DG-Board IC8001 (Pesks Lite 2)
  
I bought my unit Dec 2006 from the late Sonny Tuazon of The Home Theater in Makati.

I already contacted Panasonic Phils and arranged for a home service.  I will post later the diagnosis and cost of repair.
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: Verbl Kint on Apr 17, 2012 at 12:57 PM
Bookmarking this thread.  :)
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: pao9307 on Apr 17, 2012 at 08:09 PM

it's a good thing you had the presence of mind to count the number of blinks..sakit talaga ng Pana ang ganito?
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: toys4geeks on Apr 17, 2012 at 08:14 PM
considering its 2006-2012, that's a really good run for the model. Hope to hear good news kano repairs niyan.
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: joko11 on Apr 17, 2012 at 09:44 PM
looking forward for good results in repair
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Apr 18, 2012 at 09:11 AM
considering its 2006-2012, that's a really good run for the model. Hope to hear good news kano repairs niyan.

For me, im disappointed with my unit's lifespan considering that Panasonic is one of the better brand. Im expecting 10 years or more useful life from this unit since i invested 60k++ at the time i bought it! Today, a plasma tv with similar specs will set you back around 26k. See how much I lose here thats why im so pissed with Panasonic! I remember owning Sony and JVC crt tv's before and they both lasted well over 15 years! I estimate that I used my plasma tv for only about 7k hours before it died, based on my average 3 hours daily use for 6 years. Panasonic and other plasma tv brands claims that their panel will last 60k hours but if their electronic  components is only good for a few thousand hours that claim is now moot and academic. Another marketing ploy that went pfffttttt....
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: sientobente on Apr 18, 2012 at 09:26 AM
sorry to hear what happened on your 42pv70, i hope panasonic philippines can fix this asap. i'm now fearing for my seldom used pv80. this has been the most expensive tv i bought and it will seriously piss me off if that happens to me too.
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: pekspert on Apr 18, 2012 at 09:40 AM
With flat panel tv's these days, trust me, 6yrs is a really good run. A lot dont even make it to 5yrs.  Ako din swerte dun sa syntax lcd tv ko which is still alive and kicking after 7yrs.

The panasonic guys will simply replace the sound board. It is up to you if its worth the cost to do so or just simply buy a new set.

Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Apr 18, 2012 at 11:00 AM
...i'm now fearing for my seldom used pv80....
Just watch out for the appearance of green dots, ito yung green speckles na at random kung mag appear. Pagnagkaron nito ang panel mo its a warning na malapit na katapusan ng plasma mo. Its based on my experience, though, your milage may vary.



 
...The panasonic guys will simply replace the sound board. It is up to you if its worth the cost to do so or just simply buy a new set...
Ouch! I just hope its just a capacitor, diode or other simple parts that need to be replaced. I know that replacement boards costs several thousands. Since my unit is no longer under warranty, Pana Phils will not fix it by themselves, i was referred to their authorized 3rd party service center shop located in Mendiola, Manila. Home service is ouright 1.5k, but will be deducted to the total cost of the repair if it will exceed 1.5k. If the unit will be brought to the shop, service charge will be 7h, same rule apply. I will know within this week the cost of repair, will update this thread accordingly.
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: Waxx on Apr 18, 2012 at 11:25 AM
Just watch out for the appearance of green dots, ito yung green speckles na at random kung mag appear. Pagnagkaron nito ang panel mo its a warning na malapit na katapusan ng plasma mo. Its based on my experience, though, your milage may vary.



 Ouch! I just hope its just a capacitor, diode or other simple parts that need to be replaced. I know that replacement boards costs several thousands. Since my unit is no longer under warranty, Pana Phils will not fix it by themselves, i was referred to their authorized 3rd party service center shop located in Mendiola, Manila. Home service is ouright 1.5k, but will be deducted to the total cost of the repair if it will exceed 1.5k. If the unit will be brought to the shop, service charge will be 7h, same rule apply. I will know within this week the cost of repair, will update this thread accordingly.
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if you have the guts to do a DIY. replacing capacitors is easy and cheap... since alam mo narin ang source ng problem and which board.. just open it up.. look for bloated capacitors and replace them..

raon has tons of capacitors minsan piso minsan 5 pesos minsan 30 pesos...

and you have the expert sir jojo to help us out.

hopefully capacitor lang ang problem.
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Apr 19, 2012 at 01:12 AM
if you have the guts to do a DIY. replacing capacitors is easy and cheap... since alam mo narin ang source ng problem and which board.. just open it up.. look for bloated capacitors and replace them..raon has tons of capacitors minsan piso minsan 5 pesos minsan 30 pesos...

...and you have the expert sir jojo to help us out....

You gave me an idea para makatipid, thanks! I called up the service center and retracted my home service request.  Susubukan ko munang buksan yung unit, to see if some parts can be serviceable. I already downloaded the service manual for this model. Nasa service manual yung correct sequence ng pagtanggal ng mga screws to remove the rear cover.  Napakadami ng screws, bale 35 pcs lahat just to remove the rear cover.  Its good that I got hold of the service manual kasi nandun na lahat ng procedures, pati pag identify ng placements of the circuit boards and schematic diagrams.

Sir Waxx, please post here or PM me the contact details of sir Jojo.

Thank you very much.
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: Stagea on Apr 19, 2012 at 02:25 AM
Yup, the H-Board is just the rear input board. Hopefully dun nga ang problema para relatively madali.

Tighter na ang tolerances ng electronics ngayon kaya pag may nagfail na part eh makikita mo talaga ang difference or titigil gumana ang unit usually. Unlike mga CRT dati pwedeng madami nang sirang components inside pero tumatakbo pa din.

Yung cost-optimization din sa manufacturing minsan naco-compromise yung useful lifespan ng components (or the entire unit). I don't know of any CE company that designs their TVs for 10 years of trouble-free use pa in this day and age. If you get 10 years sa current flat panels, medyo maswerte ka nun.

Sa engineering stage pa lang, they normally have a target life na more or less. You can often cut corners at paikliin ang overall lifespan nung part basta within target pa yung MTBF nung component at maliit ang deviation sa production. Each component only has to meet the target life of the device, and desirably at the lowest cost to the maker. Grabe na din kasi ang pressure sa makers when it comes to pricing, specs and features that they have to cut down on this to remain profitable (or to maximize profits kung profitable na).

Because of this, kapag mahal ang quoted repair sa older unit it might be better to purchase a bnew unit na lang.
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: babed95 on Apr 23, 2012 at 10:15 AM
sir same tayo pv8 ko 4 blinks naman which means power board ang diperensya tyak pag pinatignan ko to yun buong power board ang papalitan expected ko na ang mga 10k na gastos, wat if capacitor din kya ang sira lang nito hindi yun buong board? ksi tinignan ko na rin eh sobrang dali lang palitan ang power board kung isang buo mo papalitan ksi parang board lang ng p.c me slot lang na dun nakalagay yun board then pag hinugot mo lang ok na walang komplikadong pyesa yun mga panasonic plasma, ang tanong lang eh makit ako kya ang sirang capacitor hehehe!
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: toys4geeks on Apr 23, 2012 at 08:31 PM
sir same tayo pv8 ko 4 blinks naman which means power board ang diperensya tyak pag pinatignan ko to yun buong power board ang papalitan expected ko na ang mga 10k na gastos, wat if capacitor din kya ang sira lang nito hindi yun buong board? ksi tinignan ko na rin eh sobrang dali lang palitan ang power board kung isang buo mo papalitan ksi parang board lang ng p.c me slot lang na dun nakalagay yun board then pag hinugot mo lang ok na walang komplikadong pyesa yun mga panasonic plasma, ang tanong lang eh makit ako kya ang sirang capacitor hehehe!

basta may ambok or lobo or sunog yung ulo ng capacitor, eh likely yun yon.

if board talaga and decided ka to DIY repair, baklasin mo board and bring to your repairer. they usually replace capacitor and or resistors na bumigay/nadamay. fuse din if meron man, basta when replacing same rating lang.

sana nga magawa mga units nyo, pero ang tumagal din ha?
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: JojoD818 on Apr 23, 2012 at 09:08 PM

Sir Waxx, please post here or PM me the contact details of sir Jojo.




I'm here bro.   :)

If ever you muster the cojones to open up your plasma, locate the problematic board (based on the blink codes) and post photos here. In different angles may also help.

!!! Make sure the darn thing is unplugged and left un-powered for at least 30 minutes before you do. !!!

Good luck.

Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: titopepe on Apr 24, 2012 at 02:41 AM
considering its 2006-2012, that's a really good run for the model. Hope to hear good news kano repairs niyan.

actually pv70 una kong nakitang magandang plasma...

alam ko sinasabi pa noon atleast 20years life expectancy nito...
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: Stagea on Apr 24, 2012 at 06:47 AM
actually pv70 una kong nakitang magandang plasma...

alam ko sinasabi pa noon atleast 20years life expectancy nito...

Yep, I think projected lifespan yun ng phosphors in the panel based on LTHB rating (life to half brightness). 60000 hours ang claimed ng most makers that time (including Panasonic), which should be about 20 years nga for daily use ng 8 hours a day. Calibrating the panel to achieve maximum contrast can reduce this to 20000 hours or so, but that would still be a fairly long time. The thing is, they're just saying that the panel won't dim too much within that period. They're not saying that the panel won't fail.

To make things worse, it's unlikely na i-design nila for a 20-year average life yung panel (and far less pa yung the rest of the TV). Maraming variables, pero in general TVs these days are no longer designed to last (at least not last as long as yung mga lumang CRT na kinasanayan natin noon).

Tighter manufacturing tolerances now allow makers to optimize production --- reducing production costs to a minimum without rolling out too many defective units (units that fail within the range of their intended life), even without rigorous quality control. This is the reason why they can cram so many features at ever lowering price points. This also means na fewer ang susuwertehin with very long-lasting TVs dahil maliit ang deviation sa production.
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: ck_kent on Apr 24, 2012 at 06:31 PM
I think it's what you call "Planned Obsolescence."   >:(

I just want to share a video about "Planned Obsolescence Conspiracy."  It's 52mins. long.  It's about how manufacturing companies supposedly limit the lifespan of a certain product so consumers will have no choice but to buy a new one even though they can make a product last much longer than they do now.  Depending on whose point-of-view, it may be good or bad.  Apparently, the first victim of this was the light bulb.  We may have light bulbs today that promises to last for 8,000hrs or 20,000hrs but there's a light bulb that's been going on for 110 years! -> http://www.centennialbulb.org/ (http://www.centennialbulb.org/)

If you have the time do watch it and learn some more about it. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bxzU1HFC7Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bxzU1HFC7Q)

Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: Stagea on Apr 26, 2012 at 03:43 PM
I think it's what you call "Planned Obsolescence."   >:(

I just want to share a video about "Planned Obsolescence Conspiracy."  It's 52mins. long.  It's about how manufacturing companies supposedly limit the lifespan of a certain product so consumers will have no choice but to buy a new one even though they can make a product last much longer than they do now.  Depending on whose point-of-view, it may be good or bad.  Apparently, the first victim of this was the light bulb.  We may have light bulbs today that promises to last for 8,000hrs or 20,000hrs but there's a light bulb that's been going on for 110 years! -> http://www.centennialbulb.org/ (http://www.centennialbulb.org/)

In the case of most CE products like TVs, it may be a higher form of planned obsolescence. They do not generally shorten the life of components for the sake of reducing the life, but are willing to do it if it saves them costs (both up front and in the long run).

They don't want products that fail too soon that they'd be spending more in warranty services and would be losing market share because of poor brand perception. They can only sacrifice life and reliability upto a point (this becomes a design constraint), and they'd normally do all the savings that they can apply up-front in manufacturing as long as they can meet that target. Component specifications are often selected with this design constraint factored-in, as this is a performance expectation from an engineering standpoint.

Finally, the Marketing gurus have more to do with the design than you may think. They generally feed the engineering team with many of the constraints (like how much a product can cost, what features would be desirable, how long the product should last, what finishes sell, etc.).

Back to the lightbulb. Our manufacturers can make long-lasting lightbulbs if there is a demand for it. It's just gonna cost more and won't be as energy-efficient. Running a bigger and cooler filament will extend service life given the same metallurgy, at the expense of brightness, efficiency and cost.
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: Stagea on Apr 26, 2012 at 04:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bxzU1HFC7Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bxzU1HFC7Q)

I just watched the video. This is true. That is how the consumer economy works.

This is also why many Soviet-era goods are so durable, no matter how undesirable they are. The Finnish countryside still has a lot of aged and running Soviet cars, tractors, etc.
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: erwin111 on Apr 26, 2012 at 05:10 PM
suggest ko lng kung tutuloy sa pag DIY, kung pwedeng mapalitan yung mga e-caps, palitan na lahat.. kasi yung failure ng e-cap malamang nasagad na yung life nya.. kung may target life yung mga manufacturers, malamang nasa five years lng yung calculation nila (malamang calculated pa yun sa ambient na 25degC, eh pagkainit sa atin ngayon, mas bababa pa ang life ng e-cap), so baka yung nagfail na unang e-cap, masundan na ng iba... malapit ng "matuyo" kung baga.. so kahit walang sunog or lusaw or ambok yung e-cap, mas magandang mapalitan na.. kadalasan naman ang nagpapababa ng life ng electronics design ay yung e-caps, kaya yung part na papalitan, hindi lang rating ng voltage at capacitance, pati rin life hours...
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: Stagea on Apr 27, 2012 at 07:59 AM
suggest ko lng kung tutuloy sa pag DIY, kung pwedeng mapalitan yung mga e-caps, palitan na lahat.. kasi yung failure ng e-cap malamang nasagad na yung life nya.. kung may target life yung mga manufacturers, malamang nasa five years lng yung calculation nila (malamang calculated pa yun sa ambient na 25degC, eh pagkainit sa atin ngayon, mas bababa pa ang life ng e-cap), so baka yung nagfail na unang e-cap, masundan na ng iba... malapit ng "matuyo" kung baga.. so kahit walang sunog or lusaw or ambok yung e-cap, mas magandang mapalitan na.. kadalasan naman ang nagpapababa ng life ng electronics design ay yung e-caps, kaya yung part na papalitan, hindi lang rating ng voltage at capacitance, pati rin life hours...

Your rudimentary numbers are actually pretty close. ;D They normally target the lifespan using typical conditions (usage pattern, environmental conditions, etc.), while still trying to make sure that the products won't fail within the warranty period after the sell by date as long as the conditions within the operating range is maintained (the operating range is normally pretty wide).

The idea is that the majority of consumers would have replaced their units with newer and more attractive models before the end of life is reached. Products that are often upgraded tend to be designed with shorter useful lives.
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 28, 2012 at 07:57 PM
@TS
na-check na yung internals bro?
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: disturbed on May 01, 2012 at 02:10 PM
our PV80 gone bonkers na din 2 weeks ago..and I will just start my research on it..and this is on the 1st page hehe

the display is grainy/hazy, colors not correct anymore, even the native menu color are different, magenta, pink, etc..its disappointing..the thing is I watched on the plasma before I went back to Manila..when I reached Manila..mom called me that the plasma is broken.. :'(

bought it Dec 2008..its just 3 yrs old plus

to the TS..can you provide contact info? or the location of the shop..I might go there personally and I am hoping that they have service center in the pampanga area..can't find service center numbers on the pana ph website.. :-\

Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: disturbed on May 07, 2012 at 09:19 AM
^ any help mga sirs? :-[
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: halvert on May 07, 2012 at 02:02 PM
nakakatakot na balita naman ito for me. i just bought a plasma and while mas mura na...i'm hoping to get at least 10 years from this tv.
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: Stagea on May 08, 2012 at 12:10 AM
nakakatakot na balita naman ito for me. i just bought a plasma and while mas mura na...i'm hoping to get at least 10 years from this tv.

You might need to adjust your expectations sir. Medyo bihira na ang ganyang mga TV ngayon.
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: wetworks on Nov 23, 2012 at 02:01 PM
 Apologies for resurrecting an old thread, but I wanted to know from the OP--were you able to repair your 42PV70? Mine recently lost it's picture (but with sound)--I already brought a replacement (bigger of course :-D), but wanted to know options if I can still get the old plasma repaired.

TIA!
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: Macmon on Nov 23, 2012 at 07:12 PM
Wow, just read this thread now. Lifespan of 3 to 6 years. Seems very short for such TVs
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 30, 2012 at 11:12 AM
I presently have 4 Panny plasmas (PV70, PV8, X50, UT30) and 2 of these are of the same models that were posted. I fear of the early demise of these TVs as well. If this thread report more dead plasmas, I would consider buying LCD/LED TVs in the future.  I have observed that computer monitor LCDs last long. Would this also apply to LCD TVs?
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: anya618 on Nov 30, 2012 at 11:14 AM
I presently have 4 Panny plasmas (PV70, PV8, X50, UT30) and 2 of these are of the same models that were posted. I fear of the early demise of these TVs as well. If this thread report more dead plasmas, I would consider buying LCD/LED TVs in the future.  I have observed that computer monitor LCDs last long. Would this also apply to LCD TVs?


pwede sir considering computer monitors are open almost 24/7
so far buhay pa yung panny lcd ko ^-^
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 01, 2012 at 08:17 AM
I presently have 4 Panny plasmas (PV70, PV8, X50, UT30) and 2 of these are of the same models that were posted. I fear of the early demise of these TVs as well. If this thread report more dead plasmas, I would consider buying LCD/LED TVs in the future.  I have observed that computer monitor LCDs last long. Would this also apply to LCD TVs?

pwede sir considering computer monitors are open almost 24/7
so far buhay pa yung panny lcd ko ^-^

Nice observation. My old 4:3 LG monitor is still working after 7 years. But hindi nga kaya kasi old model ito? Kung baga, masmahaba pa ang "design" life expectancy.
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Dec 01, 2012 at 08:35 AM
If we will base the lifespan ng panel natin, hamak haba ng buhay talaga ng mga LCD monitors natin,
nung una silang lumabas ay gumamit ako ng MAG LCD as my main monitor sa PC ko, it took over 7 years bago nagluko, and to think hindi pa yung panel ang nasira, ang nagluko pa ay yung VGA cable na nakasaksak sa monitor itself, may naputol na connection sa loob ng cable kaya GREEN ang monitor,
hindi ko na pina-repair at nagsawa na rin ako sa kanya hehehe,...
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: Stagea on Dec 01, 2012 at 08:36 AM
Nice observation. My old 4:3 LG monitor is still working after 7 years. But hindi nga kaya kasi old model ito? Kung baga, masmahaba pa ang "design" life expectancy.

Most likely. Computer monitors also have less electronics in them, in general (fewer components to fail).

Based on the chart below, it seems like Sharp is ahead by having very few significant or severe problems. LG and Panasonic come in next (the satisfaction with reliability part doesn't make much sense to me).
(http://demo.idg.com.au/pcw/inlineimages/TV_reliability_1.jpg)
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: synchro_01 on Dec 01, 2012 at 08:44 AM
I presently have 4 Panny plasmas (PV70, PV8, X50, UT30) and 2 of these are of the same models that were posted. I fear of the early demise of these TVs as well. If this thread report more dead plasmas, I would consider buying LCD/LED TVs in the future.  I have observed that computer monitor LCDs last long. Would this also apply to LCD TVs?


our office has been using Viewsonic LCD PC monitors for the past 6 years already without shutting it off since we are a 24/7 type of company. none has been replaced so far. In contrast out Samsung Plasma's in the pantry gave up the ghost after just 2 years. 
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: Macmon on Dec 01, 2012 at 09:43 AM
Wow Samsung is not on the top also. Hmmm. Any reactions from the Samsung users?
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: toys4geeks on Dec 01, 2012 at 10:22 AM
Mahaba buhay ng mga LCDs depending on brand.

madalas na masira sa field ion LG LCD monitors are the powersupply pero that's running 24/7 in a confined, non-aircon room so operating environmental has to do with it.

I'd think plasma for its power consumption would tend to dissipate more ambient heat as well compared sa LCD/LEDs.
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: wetworks on Dec 07, 2012 at 01:27 PM
Apologies for resurrecting an old thread, but I wanted to know from the OP--were you able to repair your 42PV70? Mine recently lost it's picture (but with sound)--I already brought a replacement (bigger of course :-D), but wanted to know options if I can still get the old plasma repaired.

TIA!

Well good news--Gain Service Center just called and said they were able to repair it. Actually, when I brought the plasma (to recap a 42PV70) to them earlier this week, it worked with no issues! They quoted me PHP2K for repairing "loose connections"--whatever that means.

The repair guy who visited us last week to try to diagnose it said that the power supply capacitors were already starting to expand but it wasn't related to the problem we were seeing (i.e. no video but with sound).

I'm passing it onto my dad (who'll be happy to replace his 27" bedroom tv with this beast) but I'm concerned that the problem may resurface later on--we'll see.
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: hitman531ph on Jan 06, 2013 at 03:30 AM
I guess that means I'm holding on to my Sony Wega Flat CRT for as long as possible.  Life span of 3 to 6 years for LDC/LED/Plasma?  My last TV was an AIWA 14" CRT.  Even that lasted 9 years. 
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: whirlpool on Jan 06, 2013 at 06:25 PM
Very interesting ang thread na ito. Life span of or between plasma and LCD. Bookmarking....
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: Javoy on Jan 02, 2016 at 01:51 AM
Hi guys, I still have this unit (42PV70).  Mine works when you just turn the unit on but after a few minutes of use, green specs start to show up.  Anybody know what the problem is and if it can still be fixed?
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: pekspert on Jan 02, 2016 at 06:25 AM
try putting an electric fan at the back
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: traveler69 on Jan 02, 2016 at 08:55 AM
I guess that means I'm holding on to my Sony Wega Flat CRT for as long as possible.  Life span of 3 to 6 years for LDC/LED/Plasma?  My last TV was an AIWA 14" CRT.  Even that lasted 9 years.

Same here, proud owner of two 29" Sony Wega Flat CRT circa 2007. Both still alive and kicking to this day. No issues,except that the remote controls now show some signs of fading. This CRT series has got to be one of the most durable Sony-branded electronics I bought (along with a Sony high-end DVD player circa 2003 which used to cost P18,000 back in the day).

My Sharp Aquos 55" LED lasted 4.5 years.
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: Javoy on Jan 02, 2016 at 11:00 AM
try putting an electric fan at the back

Thanks pekspert!  Have actually done this and it prolongs the display without green specks but after a while, it still comes out.  The longer I leave the set on, the more green specks shows up.  I guess it has something to do with the heat being generated by the unit as well as the surrounding area. 
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: papa_ramir on Jan 10, 2016 at 11:15 AM
Good day, sirs!

Slightly off topic... May PANASONIC service center pa po ba sa Metro Manila? Looking to have my old plasma repaired for vertical lines?

Anyone?

Thanks! =D
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: alfred on Jan 20, 2016 at 04:19 PM
My 50PV80 died hours ago. Any recommended service center where I could have this home service?
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Post by: alfred on Jan 20, 2016 at 04:40 PM
the 2 service center I've called does not offer home servie...sayang naman kung itatapon nalang 90k pa bili ko nito 7 yrs ago.
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Post by: raptor on Jan 20, 2016 at 04:55 PM
RIP
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Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Jan 20, 2016 at 04:59 PM
Depending on your location, try ACT. https://www.facebook.com/actelectronicrepairs/

My 50PV80 died hours ago. Any recommended service center where I could have this home service?
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Post by: jayboy69 on Jan 20, 2016 at 05:14 PM
Try my technician..he does home service and he is really good.  He fixes almost every electronics out there.  09083659800 name is Don Don.
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Post by: alfred on Jan 20, 2016 at 09:18 PM
Buhay pa pala si ACT hehehehe...
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Post by: alfred on Jan 20, 2016 at 09:19 PM
Try my technician..he does home service and he is really good.  He fixes almost every electronics out there.  09083659800 name is Don Don.
Thank Jay :)
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Post by: alfred on Jan 20, 2016 at 09:20 PM
Good day, sirs!

Slightly off topic... May PANASONIC service center pa po ba sa Metro Manila? Looking to have my old plasma repaired for vertical lines?

Anyone?

Thanks! =D

http://www.servicecenterphilippines.com/panasonic/panasonic-repair-service-center-philippines.php
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Post by: gunslinger on Jan 20, 2016 at 09:27 PM
meron malapit sa divisoria. ask vic of sns. dun niya ako pinapunta dati for my 50vt30. they were not able to fix it dahil walang parts pero nagawa nila yung 32 inch tv ko na supposed to be dead na. cant remember the name.
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Post by: alfred on Jan 21, 2016 at 07:22 PM
Damn heavy tv!!!!!...nov2008 production date nito 50pv80. Dalhin ko bukas kay ACT sa banawe...fingers crossed nothing expensive sana.
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Post by: alfred on Jan 23, 2016 at 03:17 PM
My pana is now at ACT. Initial estimate is 4,800. Normally yan lang daw gastos...maganda pa loob niya. No bloated capacitors or burned resistors. Will update after a week. Fingers crossed.
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Post by: gunslinger on Jan 25, 2016 at 05:42 PM
good luck. sana magawa pa yan.
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Post by: alfred on Jan 28, 2016 at 12:56 PM
Called them up a moment ago. For some strange reason, the TV is working fine since I brought it in for repair according to the technicians. Will pulled it out tomorrow. Could it be my AVR? But I'm using it now with an LED tv.
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Post by: alfred on Jan 28, 2016 at 01:24 PM
and this is why I always go back to this shop. Honest transaction.
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Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Jan 28, 2016 at 03:03 PM
Is this ACT?
ACT may be a bit expensive but reliable.

Called them up a moment ago. For some strange reason, the TV is working fine since I brought it in for repair according to the technicians. Will pulled it out tomorrow. Could it be my AVR? But I'm using it now with an LED tv.
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Post by: alfred on Jan 30, 2016 at 06:49 PM
Yup. Using the tv now. Just finished watching Spectre.
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Post by: stockHT on Feb 18, 2016 at 01:17 AM
My Panasonic Plasma have an issue with shutting off and then the power indicator blinks as if you are powering it on again and then goes back to life between 4 to 10 seconds. Sometimes it happens, sometimes madalas every 5 minutes but after that nagwowork ulit.


googled it and said it was due to the fan... i might be very wrong.

Anyone from you guys experience the same?
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Post by: looks on Feb 20, 2016 at 05:38 PM
My Panasonic Plasma have an issue with shutting off and then the power indicator blinks as if you are powering it on again and then goes back to life between 4 to 10 seconds. Sometimes it happens, sometimes madalas every 5 minutes but after that nagwowork ulit.


googled it and said it was due to the fan... i might be very wrong.

Anyone from you guys experience the same?

Same issue but very seldom lang nag sshutoff and on yung akin. Always turned on ang a/c when I watch so kung fan issue sya baka nakakatulong yung lamig to cool it down a bit. I'll be more mindful if it happens again para maobserbahan ng mabuti.
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Post by: rotciv818 on Mar 18, 2016 at 01:13 PM
Solved my green spec thing in my pv70 by installing pc fans at the back. It solved the overheating issue i think. My problem now is it sucks up a lot of dust. 1 fan blowing in and 3 fans exhaust system
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Post by: stockHT on May 24, 2016 at 02:04 AM
guys can you recommend a trusted repair shop by pdvd near pasig area? thanks!
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Post by: cnn on Aug 05, 2016 at 06:44 AM
guys can you recommend a trusted repair shop by pdvd near pasig area? thanks!

Try these guys. They can work miracles. When my 5 year old Philips 40" died last month, faulty motherboard, I took it to the service center which couldn't fix it because there are no more parts, so they gave up. Beta replaced the motherboard with another one so it technically isn't Philips anymore but it came out better with some added features, so it's got a new lease on life now.

BETA SYSTEM REPAIR
244-3981 to 82 , 244-7303
1055 REINA REGENTE ST, BINONDO


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Wow! Just got back from Beta and my Bravia has risen from the dead :D I had them diagnose the TV the other day and immediately got a feedback of what was faulty: it wasn't the entire LCD panel as opposed to what the "casa" told me but just the circuit board or what they call "t-con". Today I got reunited with my Bravia and i'm stoked, just in time for the NBA opening! Thanks sir Kenneth!

This shop is highly recommended. They can literally bring back Lazarus to life :p and they charge way cheaper than than the service centres.

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Thank You Kenneth for recommemding this shop! They got my old 46 lcd tv fixed in a fraction of the cost :)

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This is from a thread in PHILMUG...  Try contacting the service repair shop... they might be able to help... i hope your unit can still be repaired...
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Post by: espionage on Aug 05, 2016 at 02:07 PM
Try these guys. They can work miracles. When my 5 year old Philips 40" died last month, faulty motherboard, I took it to the service center which couldn't fix it because there are no more parts, so they gave up. Beta replaced the motherboard with another one so it technically isn't Philips anymore but it came out better with some added features, so it's got a new lease on life now.

BETA SYSTEM REPAIR
244-3981 to 82 , 244-7303
1055 REINA REGENTE ST, BINONDO

+1 on this
I used to work near there, malapit lang yung shop sa office namin. One of my colleague said that if there's any sirang video/audio applliances I have. Dun ko daw dalhin, mahusay daw dun kasi pinapadala pa ng owner sa Japan yung mga technician nya para mag-aral dun. At totoo naman, naka 4 na CRT, 1 component and 1 HTIB na pinaayos ko dun. And up till now working lahat except dun sa Sony TV iba na yung nasira. Honest pa yung mga technician, they will tell you if hinde na kaya talaga. Like my sis-in-law na JVC component, yung cd disc tray nya nagloloko. They told me na better buy na lang ng vcd/dvd player. That was 15 yrs ago, ang ayoko lang dun is yung location. Napaka traffic lalo na pag mag December dahil malapit lang yun sa Divisoria. HTH! sorry po napa haba! ;D
Title: Re: The death of my Panasonic TH-42PV70
Post by: msgt16 on Aug 17, 2016 at 12:01 PM
I learned today that my 42PV80 just died. It won't turn on and the LED blinks 10 times. Pa-estimate ko na lang sa shop kung magkano repairs. Bought it at Theaterworks Trinoma last Nov. 2008.
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Post by: t-bone on Aug 17, 2016 at 01:29 PM
I learned today that my 42PV80 just died. It won't turn on and the LED blinks 10 times. Pa-estimate ko na lang sa shop kung magkano repairs. Bought it at Theaterworks Trinoma last Nov. 2008.

Panasonic 10 Blink code
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awnrE3k_G2M
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Post by: isaiahlavares on Aug 18, 2016 at 07:32 AM
Sir my Panasonic UT30 is also blinking only when you push the on button. Last March 2016 dinala ko na sa love electronics service center but until now wala pa makuha na parts. Can i have your contact in panasaonic philippines?
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Post by: isaiahlavares on Aug 18, 2016 at 07:40 AM
May ma susuggest po ba kayo na service center for the Pana UT30?
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Post by: halvert on Aug 27, 2016 at 11:14 AM
Try mo yung pinost above, sa binondo. Good luck!
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Post by: dencio105 on Sep 29, 2016 at 06:02 PM
My Panasonic 42PV70 is still working up to now but is rarely used as this was already transferred to our house in Pasig. Spent P8k for the repair through SNS but only after waiting for more than a year for the parts to arrive.