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Title: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: raptor on Jul 14, 2012 at 01:00 AM
I just wanted to post this question and would like to get the feedback of PDVD members.  3D technology has been around since the 80's or probably even earlier. Every time I watched a full length 3D movie I always experience a big headache when leaving the movie theater, hence i have avoided the recent films on 3D.

Only time I enjoyed 3D or what they call 4D are the Universal Studio rides - Harry Potter, Spiderman, etc.  but those are just short ones, likely less than 10 minutes.  I'm not sure if the advancement in 3D technology improves the viewing experience compared to the old 3D movies, which were really unpleasant for me.

I'm likely going to buy a 3D TV since it is becoming a standard.  Reason I'm asking for comments is if it is worth investing on the other HT components - such as AVR, media players, and even the media contents  that support 3D.

What's your experience on the new 3D TV's? Do you think you'll be using it regularly, or just another another feature that you will only use when your equipment is new?
Title: Re: Is 3D just a hype?
Post by: toys4geeks on Jul 14, 2012 at 01:14 AM
Nah, 3D is there to stay. I went the other way though. i started getting the more dated, but affordable AVR first, with a 2D LED, then a 3D projector and I say its worth keeping 3D as an option.

While it is true that there are still fewer titles in 3D, there are NMT players that can do 2D/3D conversions at the player itself with several 3D intensity options for depth.

If you have kids, grab smaller sized glasses that will fit them well. and get just enough glasses for your setup.

3D is here to stay, might as well enjoy it given the narrowing incremental price difference, make sure you shop around before spending, and read up on feedbacks. But likely, you'd spend 5% watching 3D but its just nice to know, if and when, you want to go 3D, its there  ;D

happy 3D hunting.
Title: Re: Is 3D just a hype?
Post by: Stagea on Jul 14, 2012 at 01:18 AM
Try both active and passive 3D models to see which one you prefer. Most people would choose one over the other. Flicker-sensitive people tend to prefer passive, while detail-sensitive people may prefer active.

Imo, 3D is good to have for an occasional movie. I don't want to watch everything in 3D though.

A long but maybe helpful read:
http://www.displaymate.com/3D_TV_ShootOut_1.htm (http://www.displaymate.com/3D_TV_ShootOut_1.htm)
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: Clondalkin on Jul 14, 2012 at 03:05 AM
3D has become a standard feature for new HDTV, AVRs and NMTs anyways.  There's no significant premium to having it anymore.
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: Wildfire™ on Jul 14, 2012 at 09:36 AM
i think this will suit your needs   ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uef17zOCDb8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uef17zOCDb8)
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: jep222 on Jul 14, 2012 at 10:30 AM
Well, as for me ok ang 3D if you'll be having a big tv as in BIG.. if small one di mo masydo mattripan :)
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jul 14, 2012 at 10:50 AM
Well, as for me ok ang 3D if you'll be having a big tv as in BIG.. if small one di mo masydo mattripan :)

+1
 
PJ for me kasi parang yung 55 inch maliit pa din.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: raptor on Jul 14, 2012 at 10:31 PM
Well, as for me ok ang 3D if you'll be having a big tv as in BIG.. if small one di mo masydo mattripan :)

this is one of the reason i'm asking if it's just a hype, pati kasi sa 32-inch and some smaller PC monitors sinasama yung 3D feature ... not sure if you can appreciate it even with a 42-inch TV ... baka kailangan malaki talaga
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: Julia on Jul 15, 2012 at 04:44 AM
I was scouting a new TV with my kids and was offering them the 3D capable ones. They tried a around 3 different models.  We also watched a movie in 3D in local cinema.  Their reaction is that they don't like it and prefer watching 2D.  I guess 3D is only good at theme parks like Disneyland and Universal Studios. Most of the 3D movies are not produced with 3D in mind.  Though I heard 3D TV is good for gamers but we are not gamers.  Still depends on the user.  Just sharing our experience.
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: halvert on Jul 15, 2012 at 01:57 PM
i have a panasonic 42ut30 which is 3d capable. Masaya manood ng 3d content. My favorite was the IMAX under the sea. Pero isang movie lang kaya ko per session. After that parang masakit na sa ulo. Tsaka 2 lang free ko na 3d glasses kaya 2 lang ang masaya manood. Yung iba, malungkot.
So, it's a nice bonus but not a necessity to me. I can live without it.
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: stockHT on Jul 15, 2012 at 04:20 PM
i agree with the gentleman above who said "it's a nice feature, when you have it, you have it, and when you need it it's there" its totally optional but its nice having it.

you only use it when you need it :)
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: coastal on Jul 15, 2012 at 05:27 PM
I think 3D is bound to stay only because manufacturers knew it has a market and it is the next step after buying hdtvs. But great 3D films come far and between and animated films are still the best. Its like ps3 vs xbox, 3D's existence will probably be determined and dictated by the materials that will be made available to the consumers. Personally, I enjoy 3D but not on a prolonged basis kasi nakakapagod. Mababaw man ako but I actually swayed to avoid it when Captain America threw his mighty shield at the screen!!! He he he!!!
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: bravoexo on Jul 16, 2012 at 11:39 AM
I thought it was gimmicky, too...  til I saw Despicable Me in the theater and Pixar's UP using my 3D TV.  And then I played NBA2K12 on my Xbox in 3D...whoa...

Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: Dan on Jul 16, 2012 at 01:46 PM
3D is definitely here to stay. On the other hand, 3D glasses aren't. Toshiba is already running local commercials for their glass-less TVs and laptops.
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: Pillow on Jul 16, 2012 at 06:59 PM
^ Wasn't there a cellphone that featured glassless 3D? LG was it? Also, there are several flat panels around greenbelt/glorietta area that features glassless 3D. You have to stand in a sweet spot to appreciate the 3D contents and moving away from the spot distorts the image giving it a very limited range for viewers.
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: Macmon on Jul 16, 2012 at 07:38 PM
The problem with 3D is there is NO STANDARD. Each manufacturer has their own way of implementing their glasses. Which means you cant use a Panny glass for a Samsung one. And there is the problem with different technologies. Passive or Active and the older colored ones.
The active glasses are way too expensive.

So for short, it might stay but it will not pick up until the manufacturers learn to make it standard.
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jul 16, 2012 at 08:19 PM
^ Wasn't there a cellphone that featured glassless 3D? LG was it? Also, there are several flat panels around greenbelt/glorietta area that features glassless 3D. You have to stand in a sweet spot to appreciate the 3D contents and moving away from the spot distorts the image giving it a very limited range for viewers.

LG and HTC :)
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: Dan on Jul 16, 2012 at 09:26 PM
^ Wasn't there a cellphone that featured glassless 3D? LG was it? Also, there are several flat panels around greenbelt/glorietta area that features glassless 3D. You have to stand in a sweet spot to appreciate the 3D contents and moving away from the spot distorts the image giving it a very limited range for viewers.

Those are commercial units, I'm guessing. Toshiba's are for the consumer market. The laptop uses tracking software that follows your eyes. Not sure what the TV uses but up to 3 people seated side by side can watch in 3D.
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: jetstar on Jul 25, 2012 at 03:41 AM
You'll get hooked.  Trust me. ;)
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: jackryan on Jul 25, 2012 at 04:28 AM
i got them on my monitors... it's a nice feature... though I think it is more of a novelty...

it's no different than the viewmasters still when we were young once upon a time  ;D

Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jul 25, 2012 at 09:37 AM
i got them on my monitors... it's a nice feature... though I think it is more of a novelty...

it's no different than the viewmasters still when we were young once upon a time  ;D



I beg to disagree with this. 3D technology has come a long way and has improved significantly over the years compared before...
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jul 25, 2012 at 09:40 AM
I beg to disagree with this. 3D technology has come a long way and has improved significantly over the years compared before...

+1

Lalo na big screen pag maliit talaga di maapreciate like phone and even 50 inch for me.  ;) ;)

Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: riven319 on Jul 25, 2012 at 09:42 AM
The problem with 3D is there is NO STANDARD. Each manufacturer has their own way of implementing their glasses. Which means you cant use a Panny glass for a Samsung one. And there is the problem with different technologies. Passive or Active and the older colored ones.
The active glasses are way too expensive.

So for short, it might stay but it will not pick up until the manufacturers learn to make it standard.

For the recent 3d tv models, as far as I know, Samsung and Panasonic adhered to a 3D standard and have glasses that are inter-compatible...  don't know much of the details though and if it will spur a trend...  at least they've started doing so :)  
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: Columbia on Jul 25, 2012 at 09:56 AM
For the recent 3d tv models, as far as I know, Samsung and Panasonic adhered to a 3D standard and have glasses that are inter-compatible...  don't know much of the details though and if it will spur a trend...  at least they've started doing so :)  

I had a series 7 Samsung 3D tv bought last Dec. 2010 and their active shutter glass are IR connected to the tv. Samsung's newer 3D tv uses bluetooth technology.. Even Samsung's compatibility of their old and new 3D tv is a question,IMHO...
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jul 25, 2012 at 10:55 AM
For the recent 3d tv models, as far as I know, Samsung and Panasonic adhered to a 3D standard and have glasses that are inter-compatible...  don't know much of the details though and if it will spur a trend...  at least they've started doing so :)  

Some can be use with other brand some not. Like PJ I believe panasonic active shutter can be use with epson and vice versa correct me if im wrong.  ;D ;D

For the recent 3d tv models, as far as I know, Samsung and Panasonic adhered to a 3D standard and have glasses that are inter-compatible...  don't know much of the details though and if it will spur a trend...  at least they've stated doing so :)   

Sa pag kakaalam ko same lang price ang mga active tv shutter glass so why ka pa bibili ng ibang brand if meron naman sarili ang brand na binili mo IMHO.
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: Clondalkin on Jul 25, 2012 at 11:06 AM
Panasonic came out with RF/Bluetooth type Active Shutter 3D Glasses last year which are better than the previous Infra Red type..

Mas maganda rin presyo of course.

3D hype or not?  Depends on how much 3D content you have.  But it's getting a standard feature anyways so why not.
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: Tavus on Jul 25, 2012 at 01:16 PM
hype.
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Jul 25, 2012 at 01:25 PM
I agree, content is still the king. Even if they come up with a 3d standard, content will still dictate its success. To date, there are only a little over 100 3d blu-ray movies you can find. Its growing slowly but I think people are getting more and more interested w/ 3D so, no . . . its not a hype anymore.

Optoma HD33 also has RF emitter, it is superior than IR in a sense that its 3d glasses don't require a line of sight to sync hence, less cross-talk.
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: Clondalkin on Jul 25, 2012 at 02:34 PM
3D porn, 3D doc, IMAX stuff, Space/NASA stuff, Science stuff, Animals/Insects/Bugs, 3D TV show, 3D dancing, 3D sports, most likely the London Olympics too - if you know where to find them, they are available.

Since there is no more significant premium to buying 3D functionality (because what you get nowadays is primarily a very good quality 2D TV), it's cool to have.

 
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: riven319 on Jul 25, 2012 at 09:28 PM
Some can be use with other brand some not. Like PJ I believe panasonic active shutter can be use with epson and vice versa correct me if im wrong.  ;D ;D

Sa pag kakaalam ko same lang price ang mga active tv shutter glass so why ka pa bibili ng ibang brand if meron naman sarili ang brand na binili mo IMHO.

The 2012 glasses of samsung are said to be compatible with 2012 panasonics and vice versa.  They are starting to pioneer a 3d standard.  There are a couple of reasons that they would do so pero personally, I'd stick with first party glasses.  Samsung glasses are still cheaper last I checked at local shops....   can't say they are better though as I have no samples to compare with critical viewing. I like the design of the pana glasses though and they usually come with cases  :) 

Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: jetstar on Jul 25, 2012 at 09:40 PM
Watch Drive Angry 3D and Resident Apocalypse 3D.  The story is not that good but you'll be amazed with all the effects.  I'm using a Passive 3D LG TV but the 3D effects are unbelievable. Objects seems to fly out of the screen towards you (pop-up 3D). 

Cars II, Tangled, Smurf, and Rio all on their 3D Blu-ray renditions are all worth it.  And of course, the 45 min. Under the Sea IMAX 3D.  You'll love it.

Buy and collect highly recommended 3D Titles and you'll enjoy your 3D TV;)
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: riven319 on Jul 25, 2012 at 09:49 PM
I had a series 7 Samsung 3D tv bought last Dec. 2010 and their active shutter glass are IR connected to the tv. Samsung's newer 3D tv uses bluetooth technology.. Even Samsung's compatibility of their old and new 3D tv is a question,IMHO...

Sorry I was referring to the 2012 models sir...  only a couple in particular :)   

At first I believed hype lang yan since I was disappointed in earlier variants of 3d implementation then I got to watch tangled 3d and I told myself that I've got to get me a 3dtv soon....  I did and since then I always enjoyed properly implemented 3d blu rays...    it is going to be a norm for hdtvs anyway... else the manufacturers will run out of ways to peddle their wares... 
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Jul 26, 2012 at 09:06 AM
Well, in my opinion,.. still HYPE,...

still not impressed sa 3D quality...  ;D
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: andre on Jul 26, 2012 at 09:24 AM
I've stop buying and watching 3D movies on my Samsung 3D TV.
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jul 26, 2012 at 09:55 AM
I've stop buying and watching 3D movies on my Samsung 3D TV.

Ano size ng tv mo brader?
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: Courage on Jul 26, 2012 at 10:56 AM
I have a 3D projector but never experienced watching 3D with it he he he... Ang mahal nang glasses eh he he he
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jul 26, 2012 at 11:26 AM
I have a 3D projector but never experienced watching 3D with it he he he... Ang mahal nang glasses eh he he he

Wala ba kasama ung PJ mo? Buti na lang sa akin may 2 na kasama and i have some iso 3D bluray and what i can say it's like viewing on the cinema.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: dopogi8 on Aug 29, 2012 at 07:14 PM
ne experience ko lang to sa tv ng barkada ko, LG smart tv,led 3d tv.
passive eye glasses kaya ang dame namin nanuod dahil madameng available na glasses, 4 yung free ng LG, tapos yung iba cdr-king na.
mga 10 ata kaming nanuod sa kanila nun.
sa sobrang ka adikan, nag cconvert na ako ng normal 2d movie into 3d movie, may software akong nakuha to convert 2d-3d. SBS format.
latest namin napanuod avengers 3d na convert ko, nag ka problema lang sa 3d depth na set ko sa converter ng mataas kaya may ghosting ng konti. hehehe
kaya ako ngayon gusto narin bumili ng 3dtv kaso mahal pa ng passive.. hintay hintay muna mag mura. heheehe ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: andre on Aug 30, 2012 at 02:41 PM
Ano size ng tv mo brader?

55 inches
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 31, 2012 at 04:16 AM
Let me share my 3D experience when I bought my 3D TV.  I thought I could save money by just playing SBS downloaded mkv movies. At first it was fine but when I had problems like ghosting/crosstalk, active shutter glasses turning off, 3D going back to 2D, headaches and dizziness, I reverted back to 2D.  Another problem is that I need to watch the movie concentrating on the center of the screen as the 3D feature is just limited there.  The TV edges are blurry.   I did not bother with the 2D to 3D conversion as it lacks the depth that I was expecting.  As I was trying to convince myself that I can live with these problems,  the other members of the family aren't in the same boat with me.  Watching 3D became a chore. Definitely wouldn't convince visitors and friends to convert to 3D.    I am better off with 2D. 

BUT after watching a Bluray in 3D,  I was begging for more.  I bought a 3D demo disc to try it out.  I was blown away.  I got the same experience when watching in a 3D theater.  No crosstalk, active shutter glasses problems, etc.  Even the TV screen edges are well defined and the images are literally popping out of the TV.  Now I am buying 3D BDs which are 1.5-2x more expensive than regular BDs.  :P  It becomes more expensive to enjoy the feature.  :-\  I can watch the whole movie through without any distractions nor headaches.  Now the kids and the wife are watching and enjoying the movie with me.  I solved the 3D glasses expense problem by buying generic active shutter glasses.  It  functions as well as the branded ones and costs half as much.  I just had to source it abroad. 

Bottomline...3D is a nice novelty to have but with what I have narrated and if you are ready to spend a little more to enjoy that feature...GO for it!  ;)     
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: joko11 on Aug 31, 2012 at 05:07 AM
Let me share my 3D experience when I bought my 3D TV.  I thought I could save money by just playing SBS downloaded mkv movies. At first it was fine but when I had problems like ghosting/crosstalk, active shutter glasses turning off, 3D going back to 2D, headaches and dizziness, I reverted back to 2D.  Another problem is that I need to watch the movie concentrating on the center of the screen as the 3D feature is just limited there.  The TV edges are blurry.   I did not bother with the 2D to 3D conversion as it lacks the depth that I was expecting.  As I was trying to convince myself that I can live with these problems,  the other members of the family aren't in the same boat with me.  Watching 3D became a chore. Definitely wouldn't convince visitors and friends to convert to 3D.    I am better off with 2D. 

BUT after watching a Bluray in 3D,  I was begging for more.  I bought a 3D demo disc to try it out.  I was blown away.  I got the same experience when watching in a 3D theater.  No crosstalk, active shutter glasses problems, etc.  Even the TV screen edges are well defined and the images are literally popping out of the TV.  Now I am buying 3D BDs which are 1.5-2x more expensive than regular BDs.  :P  It becomes more expensive to enjoy the feature.  :-\  I can watch the whole movie through without any distractions nor headaches.  Now the kids and the wife are watching and enjoying the movie with me.  I solved the 3D glasses expense problem by buying generic active shutter glasses.  It  functions as well as the branded ones and costs half as much.  I just had to source it abroad. 

Bottomline...3D is a nice novelty to have but with what I have narrated and if you are ready to spend a little more to enjoy that feature...GO for it!  ;)     
doc mas mura .iso ;)
with the latest nmt chipset or mid level ati card solved na ;D
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Aug 31, 2012 at 06:45 AM
Let me share my 3D experience when I bought my 3D TV.  I thought I could save money by just playing SBS downloaded mkv movies. At first it was fine but when I had problems like ghosting/crosstalk, active shutter glasses turning off, 3D going back to 2D, headaches and dizziness, I reverted back to 2D.  Another problem is that I need to watch the movie concentrating on the center of the screen as the 3D feature is just limited there.  The TV edges are blurry.   I did not bother with the 2D to 3D conversion as it lacks the depth that I was expecting.  As I was trying to convince myself that I can live with these problems,  the other members of the family aren't in the same boat with me.  Watching 3D became a chore. Definitely wouldn't convince visitors and friends to convert to 3D.    I am better off with 2D. 

BUT after watching a Bluray in 3D,  I was begging for more.  I bought a 3D demo disc to try it out.  I was blown away.  I got the same experience when watching in a 3D theater.  No crosstalk, active shutter glasses problems, etc.  Even the TV screen edges are well defined and the images are literally popping out of the TV.  Now I am buying 3D BDs which are 1.5-2x more expensive than regular BDs.  :P  It becomes more expensive to enjoy the feature.  :-\  I can watch the whole movie through without any distractions nor headaches.  Now the kids and the wife are watching and enjoying the movie with me.  I solved the 3D glasses expense problem by buying generic active shutter glasses.  It  functions as well as the branded ones and costs half as much.  I just had to source it abroad. 

Bottomline...3D is a nice novelty to have but with what I have narrated and if you are ready to spend a little more to enjoy that feature...GO for it!  ;)     

As joko said mas mura pag iso bluray just play it with NMT or HTPC it's just like 3D bluray disk.  ;) ;)

doc mas mura .iso ;)
with the latest nmt chipset or mid level ati card solved na ;D

+1 Alternative to 3D bluray disk.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 31, 2012 at 08:06 AM
doc mas mura .iso ;)
with the latest nmt chipset or mid level ati card solved na ;D

As joko said mas mura pag iso bluray just play it with NMT or HTPC it's just like 3D bluray disk.  ;) ;)

+1 Alternative to 3D bluray disk.  ;D ;D

Hmmm....may tama ka dyan!  ;D. I just need to source it out.  Try ko nga.  Thanks guys for the heads up!  ;D

Kaka-order ko Pa naman ng 9 3D BDs sa amazon.  :-[
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: joko11 on Aug 31, 2012 at 09:16 PM

Kaka-order ko Pa naman ng 9 3D BDs sa amazon.  :-[
i-rip na lang tapos ilagay sa MP :P
regarding source no problem din.marami si xrampage ;D
sis invite mo nga si doc
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Aug 31, 2012 at 09:23 PM
i-rip na lang tapos ilagay sa MP :P
regarding source no problem din.marami si xrampage ;D
sis invite mo nga si doc

Doc pa pm ng email mo and dapat pag usapan na lang natin para share na lang para tipid sa bandwidth and meralco.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 31, 2012 at 09:40 PM
Aba maganda yan parekoy!  ;D
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: revskie on Sep 16, 2012 at 11:40 AM
Doc, sa PJ ka ba naka 3D? Or flat screen?
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 16, 2012 at 11:45 AM
Doc, sa PJ ka ba naka 3D? Or flat screen?

Panasonic Plasma 3D po
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: jerkzerocool on Sep 17, 2012 at 12:07 PM
Just tested several 3D sbs movies on my panasonic 42st30. Picture quality is amazing, never expected the 3D to be that great  ;D.
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: Randy1981 on Sep 18, 2012 at 12:27 PM
I have 40 3D movies sbs mkv file and it works very cool in my 50vt30.lalo na ung avatar ang ganda!like in cinema.
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: jerkzerocool on Sep 18, 2012 at 01:06 PM
I have 40 3D movies sbs mkv file and it works very cool in my 50vt30.lalo na ung avatar ang ganda!like in cinema.
Wow dami 3D titles nyan sir ah hehe, napansin ko lang mas maganda depth 3D ng mga movies na shot in 3D cameras unlike mga movies na converted into 3D after the movie was shot. I found this website yesterday http://realorfake3d.com/. It has a list of movies that was just converted into 3d against movies that are real 3d. Karamihan ng mga na download ko were movies na just converted, but from now on I will just download movies na were shot in real 3D cameras. Those movies na were just converted to 3d parang mas ok to just watch it in 2D kasi parang may daya lang hehe. There were few 2D movies na maganda pagka convert sa 3D according to reviews like Titanic and alice in wonderland but the rest of titles don't have good depth compared to movies that were shot in 3D cameras. So far I have 10 sbs 3D movies, and pag download ako I always pick the one with the highest video and audio bitrate the larger the size the better the quality. I have played all the movies for few minutes to test each quality, and so far 3 movies pa lang ang na watch ko in full. I watch thor, underworld and cars2. First movie napanood ko is thor akala ko maganda na, but when I watch underworld evolution and cars 2 napansin ko mas malalim depth and mas natural pagka 3d. Then I discovered na thor is just a 2d movie converted to 3d compared to underworld evolution and cars 2 na were shot using 3d cameras kaya mas maganda quality ng 3d.  ;D
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: revskie on Sep 18, 2012 at 01:11 PM
How different is the 3D SBS and 3D BD ISO in terms of picture quality?
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: Randy1981 on Sep 18, 2012 at 03:20 PM
Ndi ko pa na try ung 3D bd ISO.
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: sonfc on Sep 18, 2012 at 03:26 PM
mga bossing ano ba maganda entry level na 3d bdp? saw one pioneer sa sm appliance center worth around 9k tapos pwede installment for 6 months. Not familiar kasi what to look for sa specs. I'm using 42" pana. Thanks
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: revskie on Sep 18, 2012 at 03:29 PM
Sony and Panasonics are good.  Try mo kay Anya.  Meron pa ata siya.  110V nga lang.  Pero mas mura and cash basis only.
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: frontANDcenter on Sep 18, 2012 at 03:41 PM
I have 40 3D movies sbs mkv file and it works very cool in my 50vt30.lalo na ung avatar ang ganda!like in cinema.

Sir, ano pong player gamit niyo?? thanks ;D
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: Randy1981 on Sep 18, 2012 at 06:15 PM
Media player.mede8er
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 18, 2012 at 08:59 PM
How different is the 3D SBS and 3D BD ISO in terms of picture quality?

In my experience 3D SBS makes me feel cross eyed and dizzy.  3D BD (which is the same as 3D BD ISO) has smoother rendition just like in the movie theaters. 
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: vgsison on Oct 03, 2012 at 04:36 PM
In my experience, I like the 3d bluray discs more. mas maganda pagka pop up nya. Ipon mode nga lang muna sa 3d discs.
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Oct 03, 2012 at 04:49 PM
In my experience, I like the 3d bluray discs more. mas maganda pagka pop up nya. Ipon mode nga lang muna sa 3d discs.


+1
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 05, 2012 at 03:04 AM
Update:

I bought a Measy X5 3D Media Player. This player renders SBS movies like 3D BDs.  Syempre not the same quality but the rendition is the same. Parang BD vs MKV.  The edges of your TV is well defined just like when playing 3D BDs. No more ghosting/crosstalk in SBS files. Before, I was contemplating in erasing all of my 3D SBS movies  but with this player I decided to keep them. With this player pwede ng 3D SBS. 

3D ROCKS!!!
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: Weng! on Oct 05, 2012 at 04:03 AM
hwag mo dele
Update:

I bought a Measy X5 3D Media Player. This player renders SBS movies like 3D BDs.  Syempre not the same quality but the rendition is the same. Parang BD vs MKV.  The edges of your TV is well defined just like when playing 3D BDs. No more ghosting/crosstalk in SBS files. Before, I was contemplating in erasing all of my 3D SBS movies  but with this player I decided to keep them. With this player pwede ng 3D SBS. 

3D ROCKS!!!

hwag mo e delete doc, sayang sa kuryente pag DL :)

SBS and Top-Bottom (or Over-Under) is just half the resolution of Full HD 3D or FHD3D. kaya mas maganda talaga ang bluray panoorin.
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Oct 05, 2012 at 04:04 AM
hwag mo dele
hwag mo delete 3D ISO doc, sayang sa kuryente pag DL :)

SBS and Top-Bottom (or Over-Under) is just half the resolution of Full HD 3D or FHD3D. kaya mas maganda talaga ang bluray panoorin.

Tama lalo na yung kuha talaga sa real 3D camera hindi yung from 2D converted sa 3D.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 05, 2012 at 07:55 AM
hwag mo dele
hwag mo e delete doc, sayang sa kuryente pag DL :)

SBS and Top-Bottom (or Over-Under) is just half the resolution of Full HD 3D or FHD3D. kaya mas maganda talaga ang bluray panoorin.

It's just like 1080p vs 720p in your display pero in 3D. Most of my mkvs are in 720p naman and ok sya sa plasma ko. So I can live with SBS. Pag PJ, iba ng usapan yun.

Tama lalo na yung kuha talaga sa real 3D camera hindi yung from 2D converted sa 3D.  >:D >:D



Tama ka dyan!  Kaya dapat piliin lang ang material.  The converted 3D videos lack the depth and the "pop".  Exception nalang ang Titanic 3D.  ;)
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Oct 05, 2012 at 08:04 PM
It's just like 1080p vs 720p in your display pero in 3D. Most of my mkvs are in 720p naman and ok sya sa plasma ko. So I can live with SBS. Pag PJ, iba ng usapan yun.

Tama ka dyan!  Kaya dapat piliin lang ang material.  The converted 3D videos lack the depth and the "pop".  Exception nalang ang Titanic 3D.  ;)

Is alang sagot jan di nila gagawin ang bluray 3D if wala talaga pag kakaiba.  >:D >:D

One more thing hindi full screen ung sa sbs sa kaliwa and kanan na part may black bars na kaunti.  O0 O0
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: raptor on Dec 04, 2012 at 03:51 AM
I was watching BBC news yesterday, and the new ultra HD tv's were the topic of discussion.  They also featured the Sony 8k prototype, which they forecast to be released in 7 years time.  In the discussion, they mentioned that the 3D hype did not pickup tv sales as what the manufacturers were expecting, so they are now banking on the ultra HD resolution (4k) as possibly the next big leap that will propel more sales.

What was interesting was that when they featured the 8k resolution Sony TV which has a screen size of 80+ inch, the comment that the field reporter mentioned was that the clarity is so life-like and is much better than 3D.  And from what they were showing, even though I'm just using a 720p plasma screen, you can really see the great picture quality of the 8k tv.  With this development, I think that eventually the ultra HD resolution tv's will make 3D insignificant.
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: Stagea on Dec 04, 2012 at 04:19 AM
I was watching BBC news yesterday, and the new ultra HD tv's were the topic of discussion.  They also featured the Sony 8k prototype, which they forecast to be released in 7 years time.  In the discussion, they mentioned that the 3D hype did not pickup tv sales as what the manufacturers were expecting, so they are now banking on the ultra HD resolution (4k) as possibly the next big leap that will propel more sales.

What was interesting was that when they featured the 8k resolution Sony TV which has a screen size of 80+ inch, the comment that the field reporter mentioned was that the clarity is so life-like and is much better than 3D.  And from what they were showing, even though I'm just using a 720p plasma screen, you can really see the great picture quality of the 8k tv.  With this development, I think that eventually the ultra HD resolution tv's will make 3D insignificant.

That being said, makers can always allow the use of passive 3D on those 4K panels so that buyers won't feel that they're missing something. Most (if not all) 84" 4k TVs right now use LG panels, and those panels are actually used for passive 3D by LG.
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: Macmon on Dec 04, 2012 at 08:52 AM
I guess up to now, 3D is still evolving and hopefully just one technology will prevail. With its lots of variety, comes the problem of interconnectivity.
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: audioremixx on Jul 21, 2013 at 06:52 AM
mga sir, pls favor naman po... ano po na ang proper 3d settings para mag pop-out po yung 3d effect niya? maraming salamat po! LG 42la6130 po ang unit ko.
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jul 21, 2013 at 06:59 AM
mga sir, pls favor naman po... ano po na ang proper 3d settings para mag pop-out po yung 3d effect niya? maraming salamat po! LG 42la6130 po ang unit ko.

Wala settings yan nasa movie yan best niyan test ka bluray 3D movie. Dapat yung movie mo 3D din.
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: nerveblocker on Jul 21, 2013 at 09:30 AM
mga sir, pls favor naman po... ano po na ang proper 3d settings para mag pop-out po yung 3d effect niya? maraming salamat po! LG 42la6130 po ang unit ko.

There are 3D TVs where you can adjust the depth level.  Check if your TV has that feature.  Pag wala baka sa player meron and just experiment which setting you'd prefer.
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: the_w0rks on Jul 22, 2013 at 08:33 AM
mga sir, pls favor naman po... ano po na ang proper 3d settings para mag pop-out po yung 3d effect niya? maraming salamat po! LG 42la6130 po ang unit ko.

from what I understand, "pop-out" is just a trick and depende yan sa movie kung may pop-out effect. Journey 2 has a few of those "pop-out" effects. Hansel and Gretel as well. But movies like The Avengers, Pirates of the Caribbean 4, etc, do not have that effect. What you'll see instead is "depth". I have my settings for my 3D LG tv set at automatic lang.

Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: bravoexo on Jul 24, 2013 at 05:27 PM
Most of the movies I've recently been buying all have 3D it seems...  latest are The Hobbit, Wreck it Ralph, and Hotel Transelvania... however we've all watched it not in 3D for some reason... :)  (i'll have to find time to watch the 3d versions I guess)
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: jerix on Aug 24, 2013 at 08:36 PM
Guys just one issue on 3d files. The LG 3dtv can play a 3d file directly from a USB. Now, if I play the same file to a NON-3D Media player that is connected to the LG 3dtv will the same 3d tv effect play on the tv? thanks guys
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: nmeuvdast8 on Aug 27, 2013 at 04:48 PM
for me, its nice to have but not a necessity since we have the same problem - watching 3D gives me a headache. if I'm to choose only one between Smart TV and 3D, I'd choose the former because of DLNA (since I own a NAS) capability - plays content from my NAS without any additional devices. also, most Smart TVs already have apps that enables you to control and stream from your TV to your handheld devices which makes them even better.

as for compatibility, this is also a major hurdle in 3D. most 3D glasses are only usable on other manufacturer's models if both manufacturers are licensee of the same 3D Group (i.e. using the same 3D glasses technology).

take Epson and Panasonic - both their active glasses can be used with either of these manufacturers since they are both licensee of the Full HD 3D Glasses Initiative (at least the IR version of their glasses, but for the newer RF glasses, not sure).

another dilemma for 3D is the maturity of the technology. case in point, from Columbia's post...
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I had a series 7 Samsung 3D tv bought last Dec. 2010 and their active shutter glass are IR connected to the tv. Samsung's newer 3D tv uses bluetooth technology.. Even Samsung's compatibility of their old and new 3D tv is a question,IMHO...

same manufacturer different interface used. since its still new, interface for the glasses and the display device (Active 3D) might keep on changing to improve the communication between these devices (IR is LOS so it suffers from "signal blocking" thats where RF comes in). who knows, maybe the next iteration would be WIFI or NFC glasses
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: barrister on Aug 27, 2013 at 05:24 PM
Guys just one issue on 3d files. The LG 3dtv can play a 3d file directly from a USB. Now, if I play the same file to a NON-3D Media player that is connected to the LG 3dtv will the same 3d tv effect play on the tv? thanks guys

Yes, the 3DTV will display 3D even if the media player is not 3D-capable.
 
All you need is the 3D capability on the TV.  The non-3D media player sends an SBS (side-by-side) picture to the TV as is, then the TV converts the SBS picture to 3D.
 

 
from what I understand, "pop-out" is just a trick and depende yan sa movie kung may pop-out effect. Journey 2 has a few of those "pop-out" effects. Hansel and Gretel as well. But movies like The Avengers, Pirates of the Caribbean 4, etc, do not have that effect. What you'll see instead is "depth". I have my settings for my 3D LG tv set at automatic lang.

That's right.  Pop-out and depth should both be present in a 3D movie, but these days, more emphasis is placed on depth.
 
Bakit?  Kasi nakokornihan na sila sa pop-out ngayon.  May movies na bagay ang pop-out, such as in animation and fantasy.  But if the director wants a more serious tone, he places more emphasis on depth, kasi pag masyadong maraming pop-out, it looks gimmicky and cheesy. 
 
Take Prometheus for example.  Pag dinamihan ang pop-out doon, magiging kenkoy ang dating, samantalang seryosong-seryoso ang tema ng movie.
 
Just like stereo music recordings.  When stereo was new, masyadong exaggerated ang stereo effect.  For example, I Saw Her Standing There by The Beatles had vocals on the right channel only.  Cool na cool yon noon, kasi may high-tech "wow" factor.  Later, nabaduyan ang tao sa exaggerated effect, and preferred a more natural stereo sound.
 
Ganon din ang 3D.  We are now moving to more natural styles of 3D rendition.
 
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: Weng! on Aug 27, 2013 at 06:16 PM

Yes, the 3DTV will display 3D even if the media player is not 3D-capable.
 
All you need is the 3D capability on the TV.  The non-3D media player sends an SBS (side-by-side) picture to the TV as is, then the TV converts the SBS picture to 3D.
 
 

yes, this is true, i have tried it with my popcorn A-100. the problem is when reading the on-screen menu when 3D is activated on the display, ma duduling ka sa pagbabasa ng display.

the advantage of a 3d NMT is using BD ISO 3d files, automatic sya switch to 3D without pressing SBS or TAB sa remote. wala din issue reading the on screen menu.
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: james16 on Sep 04, 2013 at 08:37 PM
Hi, i dont know if this has been asked before but will a 3d blu-ray, display 3d to a non-3d blu-ray player (if it does, will it affect the lens?) to a 3d capable tv without any issues? Tia.
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: Columbia on Sep 04, 2013 at 09:05 PM
Hi, i dont know if this has been asked before but will a 3d blu-ray, display 3d to a non-3d blu-ray player (if it does, will it affect the lens?) to a 3d capable tv without any issues? Tia.

Nope.. the non-3D BD player will prompt you that it will not play the disc.
Title: Re: Is 3D just hype?
Post by: james16 on Sep 04, 2013 at 11:10 PM
Nope.. the non-3D BD player will prompt you that it will not play the disc.

Ok thanks, definitely would need to get a 3D bdp.