Post by: dannielsimone on Aug 26, 2012 at 03:40 PM
Post by: Valiente on Aug 26, 2012 at 04:02 PM
Post by: Mannyx on Aug 26, 2012 at 07:46 PM
Post by: dannielsimone on Aug 26, 2012 at 07:59 PM
Saan mo nabili Sir and how much? I'm planning to get one too.
Sights n Sounds Asking price is 39K but Negotiated with Victor for Cash AND GOT a discount plus free Belkin Surge protector( value 1.4K).
Post by: dannielsimone on Aug 26, 2012 at 08:00 PM
Congrats on your purchase! I hope that it will last for decades and more decades of use. Can you please narrate us a background of video experience, say, to what TV did you start with before reaching VT30 plasma? Have you tried CRT, sure of course? Have you tried LCD? Share us a story. Thank you! ;D
The story will soon follow. :)
Post by: Mannyx on Aug 26, 2012 at 08:31 PM
Negotiated with Victor of Sight and sounds for Cash 38K plus a free Belkin Surge protector.
Thanks Sir, available na pala sa Sights and Sounds ito. Will pay them a visit very soon.
Post by: edboy7 on Aug 26, 2012 at 08:48 PM
Post by: dannielsimone on Aug 27, 2012 at 07:12 AM
WOW VT30! :) Congrats!
THANX.
IMPRESSIVE FEATURES AND SPECS!!!!
http://www.panasonic.com.sg/wps/portal/home/products/digitalav/tv/vieraplasmatv/vtseriesplasmatv/VIERATHP42VT30
Post by: revskie on Aug 27, 2012 at 08:39 AM
Post by: jerkzerocool on Aug 27, 2012 at 11:15 AM
Post by: dannielsimone on Aug 27, 2012 at 12:58 PM
Do they have a 50 or 55 incher?
I would have loved a 50 myself but budget did not allow me to ask? :( I suggest you PMK Victor ASAP.
Post by: dannielsimone on Aug 27, 2012 at 04:22 PM
WOW VT30! :) Congrats!
Wow to this comprehensive independent review!!!!!
http://www.avforums.com/review/Panasonic-VT30-TX-P42VT30-42VT30-3D-Plasma-Review.html
Post by: Clondalkin on Aug 29, 2012 at 07:16 AM
So how much is the 50VT30? - about 60K perhaps?
Congrats sir sayang nakabili na ako ng 42st30 :D.
Post by: Clondalkin on Aug 29, 2012 at 07:25 AM
Im sure a VT would still be better than OK even after 5 years; my V2 is already 2.5 years old and I am still very amazed at its image quality (built-in sound system is not that bad actually and definitely better than most HDTVs) - wag lang akong pupunta sa electronic stores because then I would realize how nicer the V5 is...but then the itch to get a newer TV can kick very hard by the 5th year.
Congrats on your purchase! I hope that it will last for decades and more decades of use.
Post by: dannielsimone on Aug 29, 2012 at 08:15 AM
Realistically, any HDTV right now would have aged like 30-50 years in a decade - probably would still be functional after 10 years but with the fast pace of advancements, eh maiiwan ng panahon ika nga.
Im sure a VT would still be better than OK even after 5 years; my V2 is already 2.5 years old and I am still very amazed at its image quality (built-in sound system is not that bad actually and definitely better than most HDTVs) - wag lang akong pupunta sa electronic stores because then I would realize how nicer the V5 is...but then the itch to get a newer TV can kick very hard by the 5th year.
Actually this TV could be obsolete if they come out with 5D inter-phase. Thats right you see it correctly 5D inter-phase. The Japanese are working on a TV that will allow characters to "pop out" of the screen go to your kitchen, and cook you dinner and then serve it to you LIVE AND IN REAL TIME! ;D
Post by: Clondalkin on Aug 29, 2012 at 08:47 AM
Just imagine watching a cooking show, or a TV variety show with fully made-up actresses on heavy perfume (I think they smell like foundation though ;D).
On the other hand, what about watching sweaty, wickedly smelly soccer players or x-rated movies? ;D
BTW, are you intent on looking for the "allegedly" issues of the VT30 screen? I wouldnt bother at all if I were you. Ang galing ng TV mo kahit maliwanag ang room diba? Cheers!
Actually this TV could be obsolete if they come out with 5D inter-phase. Thats right you see it correctly 5D inter-phase. The Japanese are working on a TV that will allow characters to "pop out" of the screen go to your kitchen, and cook you dinner and then serve it to you LIVE AND IN REAL TIME! ;D
Post by: DTNS on Aug 29, 2012 at 08:50 AM
Actually this TV could be obsolete if they come out with 5D inter-phase. Thats right you see it correctly 5D inter-phase. The Japanese are working on a TV that will allow characters to "pop out" of the screen go to your kitchen, and cook you dinner and then serve it to you LIVE AND IN REAL TIME! ;D
I can only imagine how good this would be when watching JAV... ::) ;D
Post by: barrister on Aug 29, 2012 at 09:43 AM
..The Japanese are working on a TV that will allow characters to "pop out" of the screen go to your kitchen, and cook you dinner and then serve it to you LIVE AND IN REAL TIME! ;D
Kung ganon, walang kuwenta yan sir.
Ang kailangan ko, a TV with characters that will first go to the grocery and buy the ingredients, and then go to the kitchen, cook and serve the dinner... :D
I heard the R&D is working on adding the sense of smell on the TV.
Wala rin palang kuwenta yan sir. Paano kung favorite movie ko ay Slumdog Millionaire, at ang favorite scene ko doon ay yung CR scene? :o
(http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/assets_c/2011/06/slumdog%20millionaire%20toilet%20scene-thumb-125x125.jpg)
Post by: dannielsimone on Aug 29, 2012 at 09:52 AM
I heard the R&D is working on adding the sense of smell on the TV.
Just imagine watching a cooking show, or a TV variety show with fully made-up actresses on heavy perfume (I think they smell like foundation though ;D).
On the other hand, what about watching sweaty, wickedly smelly soccer players or x-rated movies? ;D
BTW, are you intent on looking for the "allegedly" issues of the VT30 screen? I wouldnt bother at all if I were you. Ang galing ng TV mo kahit maliwanag ang room diba? Cheers!
I will not seek out these issues but If they do arise I will certianly mention it.
Post by: _kamatis on Aug 29, 2012 at 11:53 AM
Free delivery ba sya?
Post by: Verbl Kint on Aug 29, 2012 at 12:18 PM
Post by: Clondalkin on Aug 29, 2012 at 12:24 PM
Pero kung di ka masaya sa ST50, there is always the GT50 and the VT50
Panasonic skipped "4X" dahil sa pamahiin.
Since the VT30 is selling for less than 40K, hopefully ganoon din maging street price ng ST50 when it's finally released. Kaso, I think they are essentially dumping the 2011 models at the moment. Thats not bad if you are talking of the VT30 though.
ST30 owners who bought from SnS, isip-isip ng upgrade via Vic if possible. Good chance!
What is the 2012 counterpart?
Post by: barrister on Aug 29, 2012 at 12:32 PM
I would say the ST50 is practically at par with the VT30 in terms of image quality ...
Yes, that's what the reviewers are saying.
This year's mid-end ST50 is at par with last year's highest-end VT30 as far as PQ is concerned. That's quite a big leap in improvement.
Post by: Verbl Kint on Aug 29, 2012 at 12:35 PM
Thanks for the info!
Post by: Clondalkin on Aug 29, 2012 at 12:37 PM
Yes, that's what the reviewers are saying.
This year's mid-end ST50 is at par with last year's highest-end VT30 as far as PQ is concerned. That's quite a big leap in improvement.
Post by: barrister on Aug 29, 2012 at 01:06 PM
Pero ayaw mo pa rin yung strong anti-glare filter? :) ;D
No filter ako sir.
Pero dahil panay ang ulit mo ng tanong, napaisip na naman ako... kailangan ko yatang makita muna, baka magbago pa rin isip ko... :D
Post by: Clondalkin on Aug 29, 2012 at 02:14 PM
No filter ako sir.
Pero dahil panay ang ulit mo ng tanong, napaisip na naman ako... kailangan ko yatang makita muna, baka magbago pa rin isip ko... :D
Post by: dannielsimone on Aug 29, 2012 at 04:07 PM
I will get this today.. ;D
Free delivery ba sya?
FROM SIR VIC ..YES FREE DELIVERY
Post by: _kamatis on Aug 29, 2012 at 10:57 PM
they will deliver it this saturday around 4pm.
I got the 42VT30 for 38k, paid the Delivery for 800 and get a power surge for 600, to sum it all 39400.
Not bad. I will get HTZ222BD for 3d bluray player this November.
anyway. do we need to break in our new baby?
how did you do it?
Post by: barrister on Aug 29, 2012 at 11:13 PM
Break in helps prevent burn-in, but burn-in is no longer an issue for plasmas. Image retention is still a plasma issue, but break in procedures don't prevent image retention.
Post by: dannielsimone on Aug 30, 2012 at 07:48 AM
FROM SIR VIC ..YES FREE DELIVERY
Guys my mistake. I did not have delivery. I brought them home on my own! ::)
Sorry for the mind melt. :)
Post by: barrister on Aug 30, 2012 at 08:38 AM
Thanks for immediately informing us about the mistake.
Post by: dannielsimone on Aug 30, 2012 at 12:17 PM
Guys my mistake. I did not have delivery. I brought them home on my own! ::)
Sorry for the mind melt. :)
I can imagine sir Vic going thru multiple negotiations with prospective buyers insisting they want free delivery.
Sorry Sir Vic. My Bad.
:'(
Post by: DTNS on Aug 30, 2012 at 12:54 PM
Guys my mistake. I did not have delivery. I brought them home on my own! ::)
Sorry for the mind melt. :)
they don't have paid delivery either? ???
Post by: dannielsimone on Aug 30, 2012 at 02:19 PM
hindi sya free delivery. I paid 800Php for the delivery.
they will deliver it this saturday around 4pm.
I got the 42VT30 for 38k, paid the Delivery for 800
No
^^^^DO NOT THINK SIR VIC WILL NEGOTIATE A FREE DELIVERY^^^^^
Post by: Clondalkin on Aug 30, 2012 at 02:27 PM
Oh, I have nothin to do with his business, but my wife has been nagging me about her 42V20 compared to the 50V2 Im using. hehehe. If the ST50 doesnt reach Manila within 2012, the VT30 is definitely the best option IMO.
Post by: _kamatis on Aug 30, 2012 at 05:13 PM
review naman dyan. hahaha.. sa saturday ko pa makukuha yung akin eh.
sabi ni sir Vic, kailangan daw 100 hours muna bago nila calibrate. bait talaga ni sir Vic. :D
Post by: Bravesfan on Aug 30, 2012 at 11:55 PM
Are the green blobs and other known issues of the 2011 models noticeable from the normal viewing experience? With 'normal' I mean the viewer will not consiously look out for these issues when watching. One thing to consider too is if the 2011 issues were corrected in 2012.
Post by: dannielsimone on Aug 31, 2012 at 07:18 AM
Can't believe we can have a Panny top of the line TV at less than 40K. Very tempting considering some 2012 models might not be available in the next few months and at a premium of course.
Are the green blobs and other known issues of the 2011 models noticeable from the normal viewing experience? With 'normal' I mean the viewer will not consiously look out for these issues when watching. One thing to consider too is if the 2011 issues were corrected in 2012.
I never had any green blob issues with my Panny 42PV80 OR MY 50C10 SO I DOUBT I WILL NOTICE IT ON MY 42VT30. my brother has a top of the line 60 INCH KURO and I can tell you that the blacks on this unit are as near to that than any i had ever seen. My brothers Kuro cost him some serious coin and my panny a fraction of the price. (of course his is 60 inches bought 3 years ago) you plasma fanatics should get down to one of the shops and do a demo as you just might be surprised with what you see.
Post by: Clondalkin on Aug 31, 2012 at 08:51 AM
I think it's fair to say that some people see the so called green blobs and other issues, some people dont even notice them at all, some people dont know about them at all, some people choose to ignore, and some people are OK with the issues because the overall image quality is simply amazing to begin with. Iba-iba rin ang sensitivity ng tao sa colors and patterns I think. What about the color blinds?
As dannielsimone likewise advised, see a VT screen first then give us your comment. You can read stories of issues and praises all over the net, but since the model is now readily available in our favorite in-house sellers, it's definitely worth scrutinizing with your own eyes if you are interested in plasmas. Who knows even if you actually see those blobs, they might not be a big deal in your real life viewing situations. And what's the warranty condition of Boss Vic for instance in such a case?
Last time I saw a notable green monster on my V2, it was the incredible hulk. ;D
Can't believe we can have a Panny top of the line TV at less than 40K. Very tempting considering some 2012 models might not be available in the next few months and at a premium of course.
Are the green blobs and other known issues of the 2011 models noticeable from the normal viewing experience? With 'normal' I mean the viewer will not consiously look out for these issues when watching. One thing to consider too is if the 2011 issues were corrected in 2012.
Post by: barrister on Aug 31, 2012 at 09:33 AM
I never had any green blob issues with my Panny 42PV80 OR MY 50C10 SO I DOUBT I WILL NOTICE IT ON MY 42VT30.
The green blob appeared only on the 30 series. It was not present on the 80 or 10 series.
If you don't notice it on the VT30, don't try to look for it. Because if you do find it, it will be hard to "unsee" it. ;)
Post by: _kamatis on Aug 31, 2012 at 11:16 AM
at first 100hours I should set the contrast and brightness to 40/50 right?
I wish green blob does not exist in my tv set.
planning to get Pioneer HTZ-222BD as well, meron bang Panasonic na 3d player na HTIB na din. :)
Post by: Clondalkin on Aug 31, 2012 at 11:25 AM
I am excited na sa VT30 ko,
at first 100hours I should set the contrast and brightness to 40/50 right?
Post by: revskie on Aug 31, 2012 at 06:51 PM
The green blob appeared only on the 30 series. It was not present on the 80 or 10 series.
If you don't notice it on the VT30, don't try to look for it. Because if you do find it, it will be hard to "unsee" it. ;)
How do you look for the green blob on the 30? Any specific test procedure or material? Thanks.
Post by: barrister on Aug 31, 2012 at 08:37 PM
How do you look for the green blob on the 30? Any specific test procedure or material? Thanks.
Use a plain light gray slide:
(http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/9028/picture001y.jpg)
If you don't have test patterns, download free slides from Evangelos:
http://www.eaprogramming.com/downloads/download_main.htm
or download the free AVSHD 709 from avsforum:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/948496/avs-hd-709-blu-ray-mp4-calibration
Post by: revskie on Sep 01, 2012 at 03:09 AM
Post by: _kamatis on Sep 05, 2012 at 11:42 AM
di pa nakakalibrate pero walang sinabi yung sa PQ ng VT30 ko yung LCD namin sa salas.
anyone can help which HTIB/AV Receiver should I buy(invest) for a bedroom with a size of 7x9 ft (63 sqft).
I am eyeing for HTS3400 pero baka magiba naman yung kwarto ko pag malakas masyado.
Thanks.
Post by: barrister on Sep 05, 2012 at 01:55 PM
Mas matagal na buhay pag AV receiver + speakers. Try Pioneer receiver + Polk speakers. Low-end na receiver + speakers ay mas sulit sa higher end HTiB, kasi mas tumatagal.
Post by: elim on Sep 05, 2012 at 02:11 PM
Post by: _kamatis on Sep 05, 2012 at 02:29 PM
pede pahingi ng tips at mga model na bibilhin ko for low end receiver that is 3d ready na din.
pati mga speaker (yung maliit lang po) maliit lang kwarto ko.
:'(
salamat ulit.
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 05, 2012 at 02:51 PM
Kung pasok budget, might as well get something better than entry level para mas buo ang tunog kahit mahina ang volume (in your 5.85sqm room), tapos perhaps a Polk RTI3 grade na speaker pair (or even a tall boy pair para space saver), plus a matching center speaker and an 8 or 10 inch subwoofer - bale I would suggest a 3.1 speaker set up.
All receiver models released in 2011 and many 2010 models ay 3D ready na, AFAIK.
Post by: _kamatis on Sep 05, 2012 at 03:16 PM
sana kasya
Post by: DTNS on Sep 05, 2012 at 07:04 PM
@_kamatis
for a 25k budget, you could get a Pioneer 521 receiver + Polk TSi 100 bookshelf speakers. ;)
Post by: _kamatis on Sep 05, 2012 at 08:42 PM
Post by: revskie on Sep 06, 2012 at 04:58 AM
There is a MS premiere set that is being sold at the market place. Pair it with a good 10 in sub and youre good to go.
The Pio VSX521 goes for P9,999 cash.
Hope this helps.
Post by: dannielsimone on Sep 06, 2012 at 06:39 AM
I got to see this plasma at Listen Up earlier today. it has the best blacks of their available tvs on display. (others on display were the 42UT30, 50X30, and 42ST30)
@_kamatis
for a 25k budget, you could get a Pioneer 521 receiver + Polk TSi 100 bookshelf speakers. ;)
Did a side by side demo today of the Onky 313 Vs. the pioneer 521 using my Bose 301. They sounded very similair but the Pioneer a bit warmer and the Onkyo maybe a bit brighter?
Unfortuantely and probably neither will handle an upgrade to a more power hungry speaker. Will now shop around for a while and do more demos. For now will make do with my rebooted Okyo 525 for stereo only. Am sure it will not last to long but one never knows.
Post by: james16 on Sep 06, 2012 at 09:04 AM
Post by: _kamatis on Sep 06, 2012 at 09:38 AM
I hope it helps. :D
though you can always ask sir Vic, he is very accomodated person. thumbs up ka talaga sa kanya.
Kudos to S&S.
di ko pa din alam bibilhin ko sa Home Theater ko. =(
Post by: james16 on Sep 06, 2012 at 09:56 AM
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 06, 2012 at 10:50 AM
Check mo rin with DOM about 50VT30. The figure he hinted on me is lower than 77K, which I think makes sense if you consider that 50 incher is about 1.45 bigger than 42 inches. If they can sell the 42VT30 for around 40K, perhaps the rest should be arithmetic for the 50 incher - hopefully - hehehe
according to sir Vic, 50" version will coming around end of september, and will cost around 77k :)
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 10, 2012 at 07:46 AM
The 50VT30 coming to Manila like 1.5 years after launch and more intriguingly, AFAIK, they have stopped regular productions of the 50VT30 since very early this year pa. Where are those VT30 units coming from?to V or not to V ;D
Check mo rin with DOM about 50VT30. The figure he hinted on me is lower than 77K, which I think makes sense if you consider that 50 incher is about 1.45 bigger than 42 inches. If they can sell the 42VT30 for around 40K, perhaps the rest should be arithmetic for the 50 incher - hopefully - hehehe
Post by: Stagea on Sep 10, 2012 at 08:16 AM
to V or not to V ;D
Hakot na Master Jamy! :)
Post by: dannielsimone on Sep 10, 2012 at 08:22 AM
The 50VT30 coming to Manila like 1.5 years after launch and more intriguingly, AFAIK, they have stopped regular productions of the 50VT30 since very early this year pa. Where are those VT30 units coming from?
Check mo rin with DOM about 50VT30. The figure he hinted on me is lower than 77K, which I think makes sense if you consider that 50 incher is about 1.45 bigger than 42 inches. If they can sell the 42VT30 for around 40K, perhaps the rest should be arithmetic for the 50 incher - hopefully - hehehe
Where are the units coming from?
I believe they are coming from Singapore. And I am not surprised as the Phils always gets gear a day late and a dollar short. I said it before and will say it again. The PHILS is not a "high end" market volume wise and probably a very very small market at that. We are the dumping ground for older and dated technology. We get 2011 and early 2012 when the world is unveiling 2013. ::)
As far as my 42VT30 goes I am very happy with the awsome PQ and deep blacks. A dark room certainly makes it better! If you can get these units at a good price I say go for it. ;)
Post by: bartender on Sep 10, 2012 at 08:37 AM
The 50VT30 coming to Manila like 1.5 years after launch and more intriguingly, AFAIK, they have stopped regular productions of the 50VT30 since very early this year pa. Where are those VT30 units coming from?
Check mo rin with DOM about 50VT30. The figure he hinted on me is lower than 77K, which I think makes sense if you consider that 50 incher is about 1.45 bigger than 42 inches. If they can sell the 42VT30 for around 40K, perhaps the rest should be arithmetic for the 50 incher - hopefully - hehehe
Most likely, these are inventories from countries where the VT50s have been launched already. Perhaps, this is also an indicator of the pricing of the new VT50, allowing consumers to easily move to the VT50 instead of staying with the VT30. The question there is when do we get the VT50 here and at what price will re-sellers offer it considering that Panasonic Philippines might not carry it.
In any case, it's a question of getting one now or later, with trade offs which ever decision you make. However, on a quality to price perspective, I think this is great.
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 10, 2012 at 08:39 AM
Bakit palit ng palit ng plasma yung mga naka C or X or U within short number of years eh wala namang nagbabago kung hindi pakintab ng pakintab yung screen? No disrespect ne but just askin.
Pero sa ganitong price level: ST30 is 35K nga ba? VT30 is 38K-39K? What the hell are you guys thinking pa, green monster notwithstanding? Ehhhhhhh.
to V or not to V ;D
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 10, 2012 at 08:44 AM
Tapos next scene meron pa palang stocks ne. Well Im not complaining at all because maganda talaga ang price levels sa atin right now. Wag lang sana yung rejected stocks, but then meron naman warranty yung in-house sellers natin.
Most likely, these are inventories from countries where the VT50 have been launched already. Perhaps, this is also an indicator of the pricing of the new VT50, allowing consumers to easily move to the VT50 instead of staying with the VT30. The question there is when do we get the VT50 here and at what price will re-sellers offer it considering that Panasonic Philippines might not carry it.
In any case, it's a question of getting one now or later, with trade offs which ever decision you make. However, on a quality to price perspective, I think this is great.
Post by: barrister on Sep 10, 2012 at 08:47 AM
Where are the units coming from?
I believe they are coming from Singapore. And I am not surprised as the Phils always gets gear a day late and a dollar short. I said it before and will say it again. The PHILS is not a "high end" market volume wise and probably a very very small market at that. We are the dumping ground for older and dated technology. We get 2011 and early 2012 when the world is unveiling 2013. ::)
Yes, the units are Singapore models. Don't forget that last year's 42VT30 and 50VT30 are still currently available at Panny Singapore, side by side with the 2012 models:
http://www.panasonic.com.sg/wps/portal/home/products/digitalav/tv/vieraplasmatv/vtseriesplasmatv
... And I am not surprised as the Phils always gets gear a day late and a dollar short. I said it before and will say it again. The PHILS is not a "high end" market volume wise and probably a very very small market at that. We are the dumping ground for older and dated technology. We get 2011 and early 2012 when the world is unveiling 2013. ::)
That's not how I see it. I think Panny Philippines is a distributor that is out of touch with the Philippine market.
The strength of Panasonic TV lies in its plasma models. Does the local distributor emphasize Panny's plasmas? No, it emphasizes LCD/LED.
You say the Philippines is a small market, that's why it's a dumping ground for older models. If so, why does Panny Phil. have the latest model 65ST50S (2012) available for the local market? (This is also a Singapore import, based on the country code "S" at the end of the model number):
http://www.panasonic.com.ph/wps/portal/home/products/digitalav/tv/0
So many members have been waiting for a 50ST50. Panny Phil. doesn't have it. But it does have a 65ST50 -- not only is it a latest-model series, it's also bigger and more expensive than what the average local plasma buyer wants.
It's not a case of a dumping ground market, it's a case of a distributor being out of touch with its own market.
Post by: DTNS on Sep 10, 2012 at 08:47 AM
Para hindi ka isip ng isip ng upgrade ng upgrade.
Bakit palit ng palit ng plasma yung mga naka C or X or U within short number of years eh wala namang nagbabago kung hindi pakintab ng pakintab yung screen? No disrespect ne but just askin.
Pero sa ganitong price level: ST30 is 35K nga ba? VT30 is 38K-39K? What the hell are you guys thinking pa, green monster notwithstanding? Ehhhhhhh.
the 42VT30 is 44k. 9k diff is still quite significant.
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 10, 2012 at 08:50 AM
Para hindi ka isip ng isip ng upgrade ng upgrade.i made a mistake when i bought the LG last year bro. dont get me wrong ha, PQ of LG plasma is OK but i know i could get better ;D
Bakit palit ng palit ng plasma yung mga naka C or X or U within short number of years eh wala namang nagbabago kung hindi pakintab ng pakintab yung screen? No disrespect ne but just askin.
Pero sa ganitong price level: ST30 is 35K nga ba? VT30 is 38K-39K? What the hell are you guys thinking pa, green monster notwithstanding? Ehhhhhhh.
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 10, 2012 at 08:51 AM
But even at 9K, ang layo-layo-layo-layo ng difference ng ST30 and VT30. Just save 750 per month for a year instead of going ST30 tutal gagamitin naman ng at least 3 years.
the 42VT30 is 44k. 9k diff is still quite significant.
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 10, 2012 at 08:57 AM
I thought Daniel and Kamatis got it for 38K or 39K, and Dom's price is about the same range.ditto, IIRC mas malaki pa nga ang price difference nung lumabas ang PV8 vs PV80 noon. :D
But even at 9K, ang layo-layo-layo-layo ng difference ng ST30 and VT30. Just save 750 per month for a year instead of going ST30 tutal gagamitin naman ng at least 3 years.
Post by: DTNS on Sep 10, 2012 at 09:23 AM
i made a mistake when i bought the LG last year bro. dont get me wrong ha, PQ of LG plasma is OK but i know i could get better ;D
I also made a "mistake" by buying an LG 42" lcd tv. I only learned about backlight bleeding sometime after. (it really ticks me off!) I plan to upgrade plasma eventually. ;)
Post by: bartender on Sep 10, 2012 at 10:39 AM
the 42VT30 is 44k. 9k diff is still quite significant.
At best prices around, the ST30 is at 30k, the VT30 at 38k. However, the ST30, doesn't have 3D glasses with it, and 2 pairs can cost anywhere from 4-7k. The VT30 also has a wifi dongle, valued at around 1.5k. Considering the lowest prices, the ST30 becomes 35.5k vs 38k for the VT30. That leaves you with a price difference of 2.5k to cover for the claimed difference in quality, design aesthetics and features that the VT30 have.
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 10, 2012 at 10:41 AM
I also made a "mistake" by buying an LG 42" lcd tv. I only learned about backlight bleeding sometime after. (it really ticks me off!) I plan to upgrade plasma eventually. ;)your 1st mistake was choosing lcdtv over plasma ;D ;D
joke lang ha :D
Post by: DTNS on Sep 10, 2012 at 10:45 AM
your 1st mistake was choosing lcdtv over plasma ;D ;D
joke lang ha :D
aminado ako sa pagkakamali ko. :D actually, I was choosing between a 42" Full HD lcd over a 32" Full HD led. size matters, so I chose the lcdtv! ;D
then I discovered pinoydvd and backlight bleeding. boom! may SARS na ako! ;D
Post by: mattia on Sep 10, 2012 at 11:52 AM
Post by: _kamatis on Sep 10, 2012 at 03:58 PM
for regular TV viewing I still want LED LCD TV. if ever our TV brokedown in our salas, i will buy new LED LCD TV for power consumption wise, since di naman need ng PQ sa regular viewing.
I want 50 incher.. pede kaya mag pa upgrade.
Q> pano ko po ma checheck kung ilang oras ko na nagagamit yung TV? papacalibrate ko na po kasi eh.
Post by: revskie on Sep 10, 2012 at 06:41 PM
Post by: dannielsimone on Sep 10, 2012 at 09:58 PM
I'm deciding between the 55ST30 or the 50VT30. Any thoughts?
in my side by side demo I THINK the V series PANEL had more glare than the S series?
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 11, 2012 at 06:03 AM
Could you post a pic of your VT30 panel without power under well lighted conditions?
For ref, that's the mirror like ST30 on the left (with the very clear defined shadow of a Japanese and my left arm holding the iPhone cam), then VT30 in the middle and GT30 on the right. How can the left panel have less glare compared to its siblings?
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7263/7518748968_0ccae0471f_z.jpg)
in my side by side demo I THINK the V series PANEL had more glare than the S series?
Post by: jao143 on Sep 11, 2012 at 06:07 AM
I'm deciding between the 55ST30 or the 50VT30. Any thoughts?
50VT30 Definitely!!!
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 11, 2012 at 06:22 AM
I'm gonna wait for the price of the 50ST50 though (but I dont expect the 50ST50 to be priced this low). Pero sa mga hindi na makahintay, try to get in touch with Dom and try to check out this TV with your own eyes - the best 60K 50 incher HDTV your money can buy in Manila right now...ay spoiler. ;D
Post by: dannielsimone on Sep 11, 2012 at 07:14 AM
Really? You mean the VT30 that you have is shinier than the ST30 panel? How can that be? The VT and GT panels have dark and blurry shadows, while the ST has clear, defined and "high def" shadows just like a darkened mirror.
Could you post a pic of your VT30 panel without power under well lighted conditions?
For ref, that's the mirror like ST30 on the left (with the very clear defined shadow of a Japanese and my left arm holding the iPhone cam), then VT30 in the middle and GT30 on the right. How can the left panel have less glare compared to its siblings?
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7263/7518748968_0ccae0471f_z.jpg)
Maybe I am wrong?
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 11, 2012 at 08:17 AM
50VT30 Definitely!!!na SARS ka nanaman bro fern :P
self kulam? :D
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 11, 2012 at 08:20 AM
Maybe I am wrong?baka naman iba iba sources when you were checking them out. or calibrated yung st30? (possible ba ito?) :)
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 11, 2012 at 08:42 AM
But it was an interesting observation and all opinions and impressions are appreciated nonetheless.
Ang kinabahan ako bigla, baka ibang panel grade ang ginamit sa Asia for VT30? Just try to use the pic I posted as reference "blackness and flatness" of the VT panel when you happen to see one unpowered in a store.
baka naman iba iba sources when you were checking them out. or calibrated yung st30? (possible ba ito?) :)
Post by: DOM on Sep 11, 2012 at 12:55 PM
for 50in vt30
:) ;) :D ;D
Post by: dannielsimone on Sep 11, 2012 at 03:37 PM
baka naman iba iba sources when you were checking them out. or calibrated yung st30? (possible ba ito?) :)
not yet calibrated.
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 11, 2012 at 06:25 PM
61,500.00eto ba yung kadarating lang? :)
for 50in vt30
:) ;) :D ;D
Post by: house_rn on Sep 11, 2012 at 09:30 PM
Post by: mdsaint3 on Sep 11, 2012 at 10:32 PM
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 12, 2012 at 07:17 AM
Eh basa pa kasi kayo ng basa ng thread na eto imbes na tumakbo na sa store. Hehehe.
Hi Jamy! Ano pa hinihintay mo Bro? Maubusan? hehehe It's talking to you Bro, it's actually shouting at you. ;D Bilhin mo yung 50 then write us an impression and I would give you lots of Xmas presents in exchange.
Imagine I bought a 42V20 for around 65K in Aug 2010 lang. The V20 is still very gorgeous actually but with the current pricing of VT30 through are in-house sellers (does not include HMR - hehehe), ano na ang resale value ng V20 ne?
Anywhere where we can get this model now? 42VT30.
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 12, 2012 at 07:26 AM
Vic pls advise us once you have new stocks for 42VT30.IIRC meron si vic ng 42" and 50" yata ang wala. you might want to ask him 09175413491
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 12, 2012 at 07:28 AM
Ubos na stocks ni Boss Vic and Tsip Dom ng 42VT30?ill know by tomorrow bro. my friend offered me something i could not refuse, naghahanap lang ng kasabay bumili ng tv ;D
Eh basa pa kasi kayo ng basa ng thread na eto imbes na tumakbo na sa store. Hehehe.
Hi Jamy! Ano pa hinihintay mo Bro? Maubusan? hehehe It's talking to you Bro, it's actually shouting at you. ;D Bilhin mo yung 50 then write us an impression and I would give you lots of Xmas presents in exchange.
Imagine I bought a 42V20 for around 65K in Aug 2010 lang. The V20 is still very gorgeous actually but with the current pricing of VT30 through are in-house sellers (does not include HMR - hehehe), ano na ang resale value ng V20 ne?
Post by: revskie on Sep 12, 2012 at 09:18 AM
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll200/revskie/IMG_0017.jpg)
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll200/revskie/IMG_0018.jpg)
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll200/revskie/IMG_0013.jpg)
My impression is that the 50VT30 still has some screen reflection.
But what is very apparent is the blackness of the panel.
Leaning towards the 50VT30 more than the size of the 55ST30.
Plus the price per inch on the 55 inch range is no longer acceptable with the 55ST30 at P85,000 and the 50VT30 at P62K.
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 12, 2012 at 09:48 AM
Here are some pics of the 50VT30 versus the 55ST30. Pics courtesy of Listening Room in Megamall.thanks for the shots bro!! :D
My impression is that the 50VT30 still has some screen reflection.
But what is very apparent is the blackness of the panel.
Leaning towards the 50VT30 more than the size of the 55ST30.
Plus the price per inch on the 55 inch range is no longer acceptable with the 55ST30 at P85,000 and the 50VT30 at P62K.
btw ang laki ng ganda ng pq ng vt30 vs st30 ah!
Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on Sep 12, 2012 at 10:21 AM
Anywhere where we can get this model now? 42VT30.
Nagpunta ako sa Store ni Sir DOM kahapon ng umaga, sabi noong assistant doon may 4 Units pa ng 42VT30, ang maganda doon nakita ko may note doon sa TV na "with free Panasonic Blu Ray Player" for every purchase.
Nakita ko din sa corner ng store may bago silang unit ng Panasonic 42ST50, ganda ng PQ saka parang LED, manipis ;D
Post by: revskie on Sep 12, 2012 at 10:49 AM
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 12, 2012 at 10:50 AM
Whoa!!! May 42ST50 na si DOM???? Ayos!yes bro last week pa IIRC :)
Post by: revskie on Sep 12, 2012 at 10:51 AM
Nagpunta ako sa Store ni Sir DOM kahapon ng umaga, sabi noong assistant doon may 4 Units pa ng 42VT30, ang maganda doon nakita ko may note doon sa TV na "with free Panasonic Blu Ray Player" for every purchase.
Nakita ko din sa corner ng store may bago silang unit ng Panasonic 42ST50, ganda ng PQ saka parang LED, manipis ;D
Brod, at the price DOM is giving us the TVs baka hindi applicable satin yung free BR player.
Iba kasi retail price nila sa store and pricing sa PDVD community.
Cheers!
Post by: revskie on Sep 12, 2012 at 10:52 AM
yes bro last week pa IIRC :)
Nakanamboogie! Kelan kaya yung 50ST50?
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 12, 2012 at 10:55 AM
Nakanamboogie! Kelan kaya yung 50ST50?next week or this weekend ;)
Post by: revskie on Sep 12, 2012 at 11:05 AM
Post by: barrister on Sep 12, 2012 at 11:06 AM
next week or this weekend ;)
Ay salamat!
Namumuti na mata ko kaka hintay ... :o
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 12, 2012 at 11:08 AM
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 13, 2012 at 10:23 AM
Ay salamat!:D
Namumuti na mata ko kaka hintay ... :o
same here :)
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 13, 2012 at 12:30 PM
The difference: Black is stronger on the VT30, sharpness and details are more pronounced, but the ST50 image is certainly brighter (even under lighted conditions). But if you bring home one or the other, Im positive you would never know such differences - except for the better built-in sound of the VT30. The ST50 contour looks pretty slick for sure.
Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on Sep 13, 2012 at 01:15 PM
How much yung 42ST50? (Para may reference sa 50ST50)... ;D
As per Sir DOM's assistant 38K daw 'yun Pana 42ST50.
'Di ko lang din alam kung may special price din sa members ng PinoyDVD ;D
....which by the way may bagong Theme, ganda, I'm still getting used to it though ;D
Nice One PinoyDVD! ;)
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 13, 2012 at 01:19 PM
Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. ;D
As per Sir DOM's assistant 38K daw 'yun Pana 42ST50.
Post by: Randy1981 on Sep 14, 2012 at 12:43 AM
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 14, 2012 at 03:12 AM
Share ko lang po. Galing ako sa store ni sir dom kahapon..may nakita nga ako na 42vt30 dun..dapat pa demo ako ng lg 47lm6200 coz ung na sana ang bibilhin ko...den demo rin nila sakin ung 50vt30 im not a fan of plasma pero nung nakita ko ung PQ the best! Grabe ung black nya and natural na natural..very slim parang led na rin ung size..then i decided na 50vt30 nlng..ang concern ko lang malakas sa kuryente daw and ung mga nababasa ko n image rention..bukas ko na makukuha ung tv sana ma enjoy ko ung plasma.. ;Dmagkano yung 50vt30?
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 14, 2012 at 07:43 AM
You're thinking of this TV at 3:00am Bro? ;D
magkano yung 50vt30?
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 14, 2012 at 08:09 AM
Some people or sellers would give you a figure of 50% (of the nametag rating) under normal usage. That's way too conservative IMO and in my experience, and probably applies to non VT models or other makers.
Magpapalakas ng kuryente mo would be extended usage of the AVR at high volume especially, the huge subwoofer and the power-hog aircon dahil maganda yung TV mo - in which case, can you blame the plasma? ;D
IR is something you just have to live with. Deep Black + High Contrast Ratio + Nantoka Nantoka Video Engine = IR. Dont stress yourself too much on that.
.....then i decided na 50vt30 nlng..ang concern ko lang malakas sa kuryente daw and ung mga nababasa ko n image rention..bukas ko na makukuha ung tv sana ma enjoy ko ung plasma.. ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 14, 2012 at 08:38 AM
61k nga daw Pogi.missed that price, siguro kasi i was expecting sub 50k price ;D
You're thinking of this TV at 3:00am Bro? ;D
nasa office ako kaninang 3am bro ;D :D
Post by: Stagea on Sep 14, 2012 at 08:43 AM
missed that price, siguro kasi i was expecting sub 50k price ;D
nasa office ako kaninang 3am bro ;D :D
Mura na talaga, kasi just a couple of years ago mas mahal pa diyan ang entry level 50" screens.
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 14, 2012 at 08:47 AM
Mura na talaga, kasi just a couple of years ago mas mahal pa diyan ang entry level 50" screens.tagal ng sweldo!!!! :(
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 14, 2012 at 09:09 AM
tagal ng sweldo!!!! :(
Post by: DOM on Sep 14, 2012 at 09:51 AM
lets make it clear lang wala pa yun st50 series (42in and 50in)
42in (38,000) and 50in (61,500) ng vt30 meron pa stocks (as of Sept. 14, 2012 A.M.)
fast moving item.
yun free bluray player ay panasonic v20 42in at 38,000.00
:) ;) :D ;D
edited na yun price, nagkamali ako sorry :) ;) :D ;D
Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on Sep 14, 2012 at 11:05 AM
Demo unit lang ba 'yung 42ST50 na nakita ko?
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 14, 2012 at 11:08 AM
good day everyone.61.5k? :)
lets make it clear lang wala pa yun st50 series (42in and 50in)
42in (38,000) and 50in (31,500) ng vt30 meron pa stocks (as of Sept. 14, 2012 A.M.)
fast moving item.
yun free bluray player ay panasonic v20 42in at 38,000.00
:) ;) :D ;D
Post by: DOM on Sep 14, 2012 at 12:15 PM
sorry typo error
50vt30 - 61,500.00
:) ;) :D ;D
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Post by: Randy1981 on Sep 14, 2012 at 02:38 PM
Post by: Randy1981 on Sep 14, 2012 at 02:41 PM
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 14, 2012 at 03:52 PM
Post by: DTNS on Sep 14, 2012 at 08:07 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 14, 2012 at 10:27 PM
BTW, because this is a Singapore model, that means default video system is PAL at 25fps, 50Hz?bro may possible issues ba pag pal?
Post by: barrister on Sep 14, 2012 at 10:42 PM
BTW, because this is a Singapore model, that means default video system is PAL at 25fps, 50Hz?
bro may possible issues ba pag pal?
Hindi na siguro issue ang PAL vs NTSC sa panahon ngayon, kasi puro multi system na ang mga analog TV systems.
On the specifications tab of the 50VT30, Panny Singapore site, the built-in tuners are listed as: World 17-System (Analogue)/DVB-T (Digital).
http://www.panasonic.com.sg/wps/portal/home/products/digitalav/tv/vieraplasmatv/vtseriesplasmatv/VIERATHP50VT30
Sa analog, default system is PAL, but after you set it up correctly, kuha lahat yan, kahit NTSC or PAL or SECAM.
Sa digital tuner naman, DVB-T, same as the agreed Phil. digital broadcast standard. No problem if and when local TV broadcast becomes digital. (Yung mga mahilig sa US imports, the digital tuner will be ATSC.)
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 14, 2012 at 11:00 PM
Post by: _kamatis on Sep 14, 2012 at 11:39 PM
hahaha... pede kaya ako mag upgrade sa 50" liit pala ng 42"
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 14, 2012 at 11:52 PM
yan ang malaking issue cash ;Dpost mo nalang sa marketplace yung 42" mo bro :)
hahaha... pede kaya ako mag upgrade sa 50" liit pala ng 42"
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 15, 2012 at 12:07 AM
Before you buy a 42VT30, isip-isip muna maigi about 50VT30 lalo na kung ang presyo ay maaabot pa. Sayang yung chance (and sayang lalo ang pera to upgrade too early - unless 100% recoverable ang cost ng 42).
yan ang malaking issue cash ;D
hahaha... pede kaya ako mag upgrade sa 50" liit pala ng 42"
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 15, 2012 at 12:14 AM
I did the same thing sa EHome. Pangit ng video quality ng Mede8er demo and it was easily rectified by shifting from PAL to NTSC. The young owner then said that diba PAL dapat mas maganda. Oh well, basta may pagkakaiba pala yon.. hehehe
Post by: Randy1981 on Sep 15, 2012 at 12:21 AM
Post by: revskie on Sep 15, 2012 at 01:00 AM
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 15, 2012 at 01:16 AM
Peeps, got me this 50VT30 from SNS today. I think it has the green blob thingie. I have to do more tests to be sure. Can anybody give me a hand? I see shades of green. How can I be sure its the green blob thing and not just color settings or me eyesights going color berserk?nakuh dapat di mo na hinanap bro, nakita mo tuloy :D
do still live in sta. mesa? baka pwede ma-check out :D
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 15, 2012 at 02:22 AM
Post by: chris69ners on Sep 15, 2012 at 03:20 AM
Will a japanese domestic model ST or VT series work in the phil? Pricewise, is it cheaper there or here?
Post by: _kamatis on Sep 15, 2012 at 05:04 AM
ayun sinubsob ang mukha ko sa 42" mukha na 50" hahaha (kidding aside).
sakto na sa need ko ang 42" pang kwarto ko lang naman eh, 6ft lang viewing distance ko, baka malula ako sa 50". :o
:)v be happy on what we have. cheers!
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 15, 2012 at 05:58 AM
Peeps, got me this 50VT30 from SNS today. I think it has the green blob thingie. I have to do more tests to be sure. Can anybody give me a hand? I see shades of green. How can I be sure its the green blob thing and not just color settings or me eyesights going color berserk?
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 15, 2012 at 06:03 AM
I asked my mother if I can do upgrade. sabi ko maliit pala yung 42".nope di ka malulula @ 6ft for a 50" screen ;)
ayun sinubsob ang mukha ko sa 42" mukha na 50" hahaha (kidding aside).
sakto na sa need ko ang 42" pang kwarto ko lang naman eh, 6ft lang viewing distance ko, baka malula ako sa 50". :o
:)v be happy on what we have. cheers!
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 15, 2012 at 06:09 AM
However if the TV is totally brand new, you need the help of someone who can read Japanese to do the initial settings (in Japanese) such as area code in Japan, etc. Depende kasi sa area code mo, you will get special digital channels such as local area weather, local TV shopping channels, your local government channel, and kung taga probinsya ka, the special set of localized channels there, among others. Then the B-CAS Card (BS Conditional Access Card - used to unscramble all digital broadcasts in Japan) will be activated na.
Mura ang VT30 there right now. ;D For the new 50 series, we still dont know the prices in Manila diba. US prices should be better dahil ang mura ng US Dollar these days.
@Clondalkin
Will a japanese domestic model ST or VT series work in the phil? Pricewise, is it cheaper there or here?
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 15, 2012 at 06:16 AM
nope di ka malulula @ 6ft for a 50" screen ;)
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Sep 15, 2012 at 06:20 AM
Yeah, minimum recommended viewing distance ng 50 inch na Panny is only 1.9 meters or 6'3". Tell your Mum but wag mo isusubsob ang ulo nya ne. ;D Kung 55 inch ay medyo malaki na pero pede pa rin basta Pinoy ;D ;D ;D
Kasarapan ang 55" to 60",...
;D
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 15, 2012 at 06:26 AM
Tip, kapag naka progressive lens na, malamang malulula. Kapag na-LASIK. goooooooood kahit ubod ng laki ang TV relative to the room - based on personal experience. Kaso mainit yon kapag walang aircon ;D
Kasarapan ang 55" to 60",...
;D
Post by: chris69ners on Sep 15, 2012 at 06:35 AM
It will work but I dont think digital broadcast signals can reach the Phils. Puedeng puedeng gamitin all video channels of course.
However if the TV is totally brand new, you need the help of someone who can read Japanese to do the initial settings (in Japanese) such as area code in Japan, etc. Depende kasi sa area code mo, you will get special digital channels such as local area weather, local TV shopping channels, your local government channel, and kung taga probinsya ka, the special set of localized channels there, among others. Then the B-CAS Card (BS Conditional Access Card - used to unscramble all digital broadcasts in Japan) will be activated na.
Mura ang VT30 there right now. ;D For the new 50 series, we still dont know the prices in Manila diba. US prices should be better dahil ang mura ng US Dollar these days.
Thank you sa reply sir! Ganda pala features ng domestic sets nila!
I have a lady friend in japan kasi and is asking me kung gusto ko daw mag pa ship ng tv to pinas. She is not sure whether it will work here tho. Kaya I got curious tuloy and wanted to ask you because you are the authority when it comes to jap TVs.
Does it have an option to change OSD language to english or jap lang talaga? Maybe mura na din pag dito kumuha..
Im being tempted to upgrade na uli with all these Pana ST and VT talk! Hays...
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 15, 2012 at 07:02 AM
Sharp lang puede i-change ang OSD to English. Notorious na nationalistic ang Panasonic and Sony sa Japanese models ng consumer electronics. Maski digital cameras are purely Japanese. Malaki ang chance na you would be getting something better than the equivalent non-Japanese version of the same model, pero yung OSD language ang compromise. In reality, out of lets say 100 functions in the OSD Menu, you only need to remember 10. Hehehe. Pero inconvenient.
Yeah mura na yang VT30 ni Vic and Dom kaya kung walang issue ay GRAB - sa Japanese ay GET (hehehe).
Kung makakahintay ka ay good to compare with the new ST50. - If you are going to request your friend in Japan to check the ST50, tell her it's actually model GT5 - No such thing as model ST in Japan no more. The models here are GT5, VT5 and ZT5 which correspond to the non-Japanese ST50, GT50 and VT50 respectively (based on how the TVs physically look - hindi pa rin natin matiyak if Panasonic is actually using the same grade panels for corresponding models - Japanese discrimination and potential cost cutting technique - hehehe)
I have a lady friend in japan kasi and is asking me kung gusto ko daw mag pa ship ng tv to pinas. She is not sure whether it will work here tho. Kaya I got curious tuloy and wanted to ask you because you are the authority when it comes to jap TVs.
Does it have an option to change OSD language to english or jap lang talaga? Maybe mura na din pag dito kumuha..
Im being tempted to upgrade na uli with all these Pana ST and VT talk! Hays...
Post by: revskie on Sep 15, 2012 at 07:29 AM
nakuh dapat di mo na hinanap bro, nakita mo tuloy :D
do still live in sta. mesa? baka pwede ma-check out :D
Jamy, yes. Sta. mesa pa rin bro. Youre welcome to drp by. Text me at 0908-895-2751. Need help to check it out.
Rev
Post by: revskie on Sep 15, 2012 at 07:33 AM
Paki post mo ang pic, or compare to the pic posted by Barrister before. If Yes, consult with Vic right away.
Will do bro. Thanks.
My units green shade is not as pronouced as barristers posted pic. But i see green shades in the light gray test material. I will post pics later.
I just need to be sure its got it before i talk to vic.
Cheers mate!
Post by: Stagea on Sep 15, 2012 at 08:59 AM
Will do bro. Thanks.
My units green shade is not as pronouced as barristers posted pic. But i see green shades in the light gray test material. I will post pics later.
I just need to be sure its got it before i talk to vic.
Cheers mate!
Most TVs have flaws. It's really a matter of at what point it becomes a bothersome defect.
Post by: barrister on Sep 15, 2012 at 10:35 AM
Peeps, got me this 50VT30 from SNS today. I think it has the green blob thingie. I have to do more tests to be sure. Can anybody give me a hand? I see shades of green. How can I be sure its the green blob thing and not just color settings or me eyesights going color berserk?
Don't worry too much about it. Despite the green blob, it's still a very good TV.
But if you're like me, you might want to know just for the sake of knowing. ;) AFAIK, you are the very first member to see a green blob on the 2011 series Panny plasmas. I don't know if that should make you laugh or cry... :( Once you see it, it's going to be hard to "unsee" it, the same as any TV artifact.
If you want to be sure, you will have to check on plain gray slides. If you don't have slides, try downloading the free ones.
One is the plasma break in DVD from Evangelos:
http://www.eaprogramming.com/downloads/download_main.htm
The other is the AVSHD790 calibration disc from avsforum:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/948496/avs-hd-709-blu-ray-mp4-calibration
I recommend the AVSHD790 because it alows you to choose different shades of color. Try a 70% to 80% gray.
Like I said, it's not such a big deal, since screen uniformity on new plasmas is not the same as they used to be. My first plasma, a Japan-made Panny (2006, 42 inch, P160K SRP), had perfect screen uniformity and no IR whatsoever. These days, Panny plasma screen uniformity is bad, and IR is getting worse by the year.
It's a combination of trying to keep plasma prices and power consumption unrealistically low. Consumers want cheap plasmas and low power consumption plasmas? Well that's what they get.
Post by: revskie on Sep 15, 2012 at 11:09 AM
Thanks for the reply. I downloaded the materials you mentioned.
My problem is i am not sure if its the green blob defect.
I see subtle shades of green on the gray test materials. Its uniform throughout the screen.
This is unlike the pic you posted where there is a blob (read: irregular shaped green blob).
Im not sure if this is a defect. I will try to capture it with a pic and post.
Thanks!
R
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 15, 2012 at 11:34 AM
Is the green tint easily noticeable kahit anong picture settings? like under Cinema mode for instance.
Post by: barrister on Sep 15, 2012 at 11:44 AM
Bro,
Thanks for the reply. I downloaded the materials you mentioned.
My problem is i am not sure if its the green blob defect.
I see subtle shades of green on the gray test materials. Its uniform throughout the screen.
This is unlike the pic you posted where there is a blob (read: irregular shaped green blob).
Im not sure if this is a defect. I will try to capture it with a pic and post.
Thanks!
R
Well then that's good news. The green blob is so-called because it's a large green spot at or near the center of the screen, with pink shades at the sides of the screen.
Do not think it's easy to render a plain light gray slide. It's actually one of the most difficult to display. Try it on a CRT and you will also see slight green and pink discolorations.
So I think your TV is fine.
These TVs might be their last units in production, and they might have corrected the green blob problem in the last batches. But they won't publicize it of course, because that might translate to millions of dollars in recall costs, re the earlier buyers.
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 15, 2012 at 01:10 PM
Jamy, yes. Sta. mesa pa rin bro. Youre welcome to drp by. Text me at 0908-895-2751. Need help to check it out.hi bro, sayang sobrang baha na kasi kanina. :(
Rev
checked out some reviews online, ST50 is better than VT30 daw.BUMP pam-pagulo lang ng decision making ;D
Post by: barrister on Sep 15, 2012 at 01:43 PM
checked out some reviews online, ST50 is better than VT30 daw.
Yes, better daw. The question is, how much better?
Sabi sa rating ni Katzmaier of cnet: VT30 = 9.1; ST50 = 9.2.
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/panasonic-tc-p50st50/4505-6482_7-35117941.html
But ST50 will be more expensive than VT30. At kahit OK lang sa yo ang mas mahal na ST50, saan ka bibili? So pareho lang, buy na u ng VT30 ;).
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 15, 2012 at 02:17 PM
Yes, better daw. The question is, how much better?oki bro basta recommended mo! :)
Sabi sa rating ni Katzmaier of cnet: VT50 = 9.1; ST50 = 9.2.
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/panasonic-tc-p50st50/4505-6482_7-35117941.html
But ST50 will be more expensive than VT30. At kahit OK lang sa yo ang mas mahal na ST50, saan ka bibili? So pareho lang, buy na u ng VT30 ;).
so ganito nalang bago ako maubusan .. who wants svs sb12 for 25k with subdude. (pwede rin sanla nalang @ 20k) hahaha
Post by: revskie on Sep 15, 2012 at 02:27 PM
Post by: Randy1981 on Sep 15, 2012 at 10:22 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 16, 2012 at 02:41 PM
Help lng po,ndi ako makaconnect sa wifi sa 50vt30..bka meron po may alam d2?thankshi bro, builtin ba ang wifi nya? :)
reserved 1 SEALED unit of 50*T*0 already .. ;D
Post by: revskie on Sep 16, 2012 at 06:14 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 16, 2012 at 09:27 PM
Negative brod. USB Wifi dongle lang.i see, did you get the 3d glass din ba?
Post by: revskie on Sep 16, 2012 at 09:35 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 18, 2012 at 05:06 AM
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 18, 2012 at 05:12 AM
Don't worry too much about it. Despite the green blob, it's still a very good TV.bro meron kaya nito for android phones? para magamit pang testing, yung xperia arc S ko kasi may hdmi out para wala ako masyado bitbit pag audition ng tv :D
But if you're like me, you might want to know just for the sake of knowing. ;) AFAIK, you are the very first member to see a green blob on the 2011 series Panny plasmas. I don't know if that should make you laugh or cry... :( Once you see it, it's going to be hard to "unsee" it, the same as any TV artifact.
If you want to be sure, you will have to check on plain gray slides. If you don't have slides, try downloading the free ones.
One is the plasma break in DVD from Evangelos:
http://www.eaprogramming.com/downloads/download_main.htm
The other is the AVSHD790 calibration disc from avsforum:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/948496/avs-hd-709-blu-ray-mp4-calibration
I recommend the AVSHD790 because it alows you to choose different shades of color. Try a 70% to 80% gray.
Like I said, it's not such a big deal, since screen uniformity on new plasmas is not the same as they used to be. My first plasma, a Japan-made Panny (2006, 42 inch, P160K SRP), had perfect screen uniformity and no IR whatsoever. These days, Panny plasma screen uniformity is bad, and IR is getting worse by the year.
It's a combination of trying to keep plasma prices and power consumption unrealistically low. Consumers want cheap plasmas and low power consumption plasmas? Well that's what they get.
Post by: Stagea on Sep 18, 2012 at 05:50 AM
bro ilan watts ng power consumption nya bro? wala ako makita sa website ng panasonic eh.
FlatpanelsHD measured 204W average for 3D use and 173W for 2D use (same as the 50VT50) with a fairly dim panel (peak brightness of 89 cd/m2). Panasonic caps peak brightness at around ~100 cd/m2 for pro modes supposedly, so maximizing the panel would likely render around ~195w average power consumption for 2D in this mode.
Enabling Dynamic Contrast through Normal or Dynamic modes will render a higher maximum intensity (useful for brighter rooms), but will also consume more power. This is why Panasonic rates the TV at 410W (expect to need roughly this much with a ~200 cd/m2 max panel intensity setting).
To make you feel better, the 50VT30 consumes 54% less than the 50VT20 based on their testing.
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 18, 2012 at 06:18 AM
FlatpanelsHD measured 204W average for 3D use and 173W for 2D use (same as the 50VT50) with a fairly dim panel (peak brightness of 89 cd/m2). Panasonic caps peak brightness at around ~100 cd/m2 for pro modes supposedly, so maximizing the panel would likely render around ~195w average power consumption for 2D in this mode.
Enabling Dynamic Contrast through Normal or Dynamic modes will render a higher maximum intensity (useful for brighter rooms), but will also consume more power. This is why Panasonic rates the TV at 410W (expect to need roughly this much with a ~200 cd/m2 max panel intensity setting).
thanks sa info bro.
i was actually expecting within the vicinity of 200 watts. since my previous 720p plasma goes from 70 (or 80) watts - upto 180 (+/-) watts (on all white screen). 1080p panels consumes more, just wanted a figure since my previous 720p LG plasma was rated about 240 watts (sticker label at the back).
Post by: barrister on Sep 18, 2012 at 11:21 AM
bro meron kaya nito for android phones? para magamit pang testing, yung xperia arc S ko kasi may hdmi out para wala ako masyado bitbit pag audition ng tv :D
Wala para sa phone.
Pero baka puwedeng alternative ang dead pixel testers. I don't know how they look like, but I assume solid colors din, parang dead pixel tester ng PC monitors:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.ujacha.deadpixel&hl=en
Post by: revskie on Sep 18, 2012 at 11:38 AM
Try mo download muna sa PC then transfer mo sa Phone mo and check its playability.
Its just standard MP4 files lang ata if Im not mistaken.
R
Post by: revskie on Sep 18, 2012 at 11:39 AM
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 18, 2012 at 01:03 PM
dami ko nga pala kopya ng dead pixel tester (pare-parehong version nga lang, nagkalat sa HDD ko :D)
will try if it will work sa android, but doing an mp4 should work well if dpt does not work ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 20, 2012 at 06:48 AM
alin dito ang itsura ng panel mo?
(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/196/green1d.jpg/)
(http://c64.no/pana2.)
(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/269/20120116193409.jpg)
(http://www.avforums.com/forums/attachments/plasma-tvs/281274d1324038070-green-tinge-fault-panasonic-vt30-gt30-st30-part-2-dsc00114.jpg)
(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j457/thebayuk/Panasonic%202011%20Green%20Issue/IMG_0742.jpg)
(http://www.avforums.com/forums/attachments/plasma-tvs/269013d1318869075-green-tinge-fault-panasonic-vt30-gt30-st30-gt30-green-blob.jpg)
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 20, 2012 at 06:51 AM
may actual pics kana bro? :D
Post by: revskie on Sep 20, 2012 at 05:43 PM
Post by: revskie on Sep 20, 2012 at 05:44 PM
Post by: revskie on Sep 20, 2012 at 06:53 PM
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll200/revskie/P1020702_zps1facacb4.jpg)
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll200/revskie/P1020701_zps377e64e7.jpg)
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll200/revskie/P1020700_zpsf931db35.jpg)
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll200/revskie/P1020699_zps4f260b4a.jpg)
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll200/revskie/P1020698_zps2750c75c.jpg)
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll200/revskie/P1020697_zps536fa80a.jpg)
I was using file # 17 and 18 which is the 80 and 90% gray of the CalFields Directory.
Post by: revskie on Sep 20, 2012 at 06:55 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 20, 2012 at 10:46 PM
OK naman pala yung images mo, sana ganyan din makuha ko ;D
btw the images i posted were grabbed online ;D
Post by: revskie on Sep 21, 2012 at 01:19 AM
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 21, 2012 at 01:55 AM
I see. Akala ko eh nag test ka na sa ating mga suking tindahan at yan ang lumabas.bukas pa bro or saturday noon. di pwede sa sunday wala dun si miriam eh :)
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 21, 2012 at 06:54 AM
thanks
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 21, 2012 at 04:33 PM
I am going to avoid too much technical stuff because we can read all those stuff sa net, and quite likely, most of us would not even fully understand the underlying technologies and differences among a Full Black Panel Plus, a Full Black Panel and a Black Panel (these are the Japanese naming for the various types of panels). Hehehe
The VT30 uses the Full Black Panel Gen II while the ST50 uses the Black Panel Gen III thus the possibility of close equivalence is there. However, the VT30 image looks darker, blacks are stronger, and subtle details are more defined. But there were some reports about complains that the VT30 image was a little bit too dark.
Hence, all 2012 models were redesigned to have brighter image.
The ST50 image certainly looks brighter but details are not as defined as that of VT30. Nonetheless, it still looks very nice. It also consumes 13.5% less power than the VT30. The new design is quite cool but made of plastic compared to the square but metallic VT30. If you want cool and metallic, you have to get the VT50 and pay a lot more money. In the previous years, the ST would have inferior built-in speaker system but in 2012, all models seem to have the same subwoofer assisted speaker system – puedeng-puede na for regular TV viewing.
In terms of watching under varying levels of illumination, I think the ST50 would be more easily adaptable owing to its brighter image. However, the anti-glare filter of the VT30 is very strong, hence watching under light should not be a big issue compared to the mirror-like panels. But then it seems many PDVD members really like watching as dark as the dark side of the force. ;D Ayon sa Panasonic Japan, you can get optimum picture quality even at 20 lux, but then I fully understand that some people like the moviehouse ambiance.
In terms of manual tweaks, Im not sure if the same level of manual adjustments to the image characteristics of the VT series will be made available to the ST50. I dont think the ST50 will have THX certification as well. But then does the average user really need to play around wiht the RGB drives for instance, if a few minor tweaks based on some preset image settings seem satisfactory already?
1700/sec full HD motion resolution for the ST50 against 1200/sec for the VT30? Anyone here can even imagine what the hell that difference makes? The clarity of fast moving scenes would be more defined? The frame grabs would be sharper? I dont know. During the time of frame grabs among avid videographers who endlessly debated about interlaced vs progressive videos, that would have sounded totally cool. But yeah, 1700/sec is the 2012 spec and on paper, it does seem to be an improvement. Makes me wonder just how fast a human eye sees motion resolution.
ST50 price. That is the question. The VT30 is cheaper in PDVD than in Tokyo! Dont forget, the VT30 was arguably the best HDTV in 2011 despite the BUTS (especially those made in Thailand DAW). So just check your panels carefully but I definitely dont believe in panel ageing/break-in - waste of energy. ;)
checked out some reviews online, ST50 is better than VT30 daw.
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 21, 2012 at 10:23 PM
plano ko talaga 50UT30 lang eh, pero nagkaroon ng VT30 ayun kagulo na :D
downloaded na ang deadpixeltester for android, tested narin na gagana sya sa hdtv via hdmi from my phone.
saved 3 shades of gray images narin sa phone ko .. malaman bukas :)
Post by: revskie on Sep 22, 2012 at 09:45 AM
Post by: barrister on Sep 22, 2012 at 11:11 AM
last hirit mga bro, might buy this later today. is it OK if i just have a large images with black, dark& light gray? makikita na ba iyon?
thanks
Suggestion ko sir, baka puwedeng tignan in-store yung mismong unit na idedeliver.
Dalhin nila sa store, tapos test mo ang gray slides sa store. Pag OK, repack nila sa box, bayad ka, tapos derecho deliver sa bahay mo.
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 22, 2012 at 01:13 PM
Suggestion ko sir, baka puwedeng tignan in-store yung mismong unit na idedeliver.thanks sa suggestion bro.
Dalhin nila sa store, tapos test mo ang gray slides sa store. Pag OK, repack nila sa box, bayad ka, tapos derecho deliver sa bahay mo.
kainis, kahapon trapik ngayon naman ulan!! :(
ill post the shades of gray na ginawa ko, sana ma check nyo kung pwede na test material.
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 22, 2012 at 01:20 PM
Sharp 60LE630M (http://www.sharp.com.my/aquos/60LE630M.php)
btw ito yung mga shades of gray na plano ko gamitin ..
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/4_zpseef915fa.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/3_zpsc6adf192.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/2_zpsa129c2a8.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/1_zpscf6de28b.jpg)
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 22, 2012 at 01:24 PM
Suggestion ko sir, baka puwedeng tignan in-store yung mismong unit na idedeliver.
Dalhin nila sa store, tapos test mo ang gray slides sa store. Pag OK, repack nila sa box, bayad ka, tapos derecho deliver sa bahay mo.
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 22, 2012 at 01:27 PM
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 22, 2012 at 01:28 PM
eto pamapagulo ng isip ;D
Sharp 60LE630M (http://www.sharp.com.my/aquos/60LE630M.php)
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 22, 2012 at 01:31 PM
Osaka was way too expensive and if you remember, Panasonic lost bazillions of Yen in 2011 and had to drastically reduce costs immediately.
Maski naman 2012 models are halos made in Thailand na lahat - if it's any consolation. Cmon if Apol can work well in China, Thailand should be OK eventually.
nakuh bro ibig sabihin may made in thailand na vt30? :(
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 22, 2012 at 01:56 PM
eto pamapagulo ng isip ;D
Sharp 60LE630M (http://www.sharp.com.my/aquos/60LE630M.php)
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 22, 2012 at 02:00 PM
Sa kingdom ng Sharp, pang-ilan sa trono ang LE630M? Hindi fair i compare si Queen Elizabeth kay Lady Jane diba? ;D ;D ;Doki oki .. still have 1 week to decide naman kasi may 1 week replacement naman si vic :)
Post by: DTNS on Sep 22, 2012 at 02:01 PM
Sa kingdom ng Sharp, pang-ilan sa trono ang LE630M? Hindi fair i compare si Queen Elizabeth kay Lady Jane diba? ;D ;D ;D
prinsipe lang yan! ito ang hari sa kaharian ng Sharp: LC-80LE940X / LC-60LE940X http://www.sharp.ph/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_images.tpl&product_id=91&category_id=13&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1&vmcchk=1&Itemid=1 (http://www.sharp.ph/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_images.tpl&product_id=91&category_id=13&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1&vmcchk=1&Itemid=1) ;)
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 22, 2012 at 09:16 PM
awesome PQ :P
no green blob/tinge ;D
thanks guys! O0
Post by: revskie on Sep 23, 2012 at 08:18 AM
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 23, 2012 at 08:30 AM
Pics naman diyan!eto bro .. kainis lang di pa na wallmount dahil yung screws sa previous setup ko maliliit :(
eto medyo emo .. nagpapicture parin ;D
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/DSC_0336_zpsdbb6c25d.jpg)
the back ..
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/DSC_0335_zps8d108cf6.jpg)
installed stand instead
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/DSC_0340_zps6208bb50.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/DSC_0339_zps0c9ab2fb.jpg)
SD content!!
sarap talaga ng feeling ng ganitong klaseng black, last time i felt really excited about a new TV was wayback when bought my 42PV80 @ 67kish :D
the last time i REALLY appreciated good PQ was during this time din. :)
will post pq pics later, nagkasakit kasi ako last night, naulanan kasi nung pauwi nako at di na nakaligo dahil sa excitement ;D ;D
Post by: Stagea on Sep 23, 2012 at 09:01 AM
Patagalin mo naman ng konti at baka palitan mo na naman agad pag may bago. ;D
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 23, 2012 at 09:21 AM
Congrats sa bagong TV, don Jamy! :)
Patagalin mo naman ng konti at baka palitan mo na naman agad pag may bago. ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 23, 2012 at 09:30 AM
Please reserve at 48K (standard 20% depreciation). ;D ;D ;Dhehehe baka tumagal ito bro, unless mag drop ang 60" VTxx in the next couple of years ;D
you were right. so glad that you replied to my PMs :D
grabe after i played an SD content, all i said was WOW .. just WOW! :D
will do some measurements re: consumption later. :)
btw lahat ng mode sa picture OK sakin from dynamic to normal to thx. also after turning ON the eco mode, OMG ganda parin! :D
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 23, 2012 at 09:37 AM
Sa local cable SDTV shows, I really think Dynamic mode is useful. ;)
ENJOY!
will do some measurements re: consumption later. :)
btw lahat ng mode sa picture OK sakin from dynamic to normal to thx. also after turning ON the eco mode, OMG ganda parin! :D
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 23, 2012 at 09:53 AM
Just check your next Meralco reading Bro (total kWH before and after today)...but dont forget to consider the contributions of your huge SVSs and the aircon.currently doing my usual ALL white screen burn in ... power consumtion was at 340 - 370 watts. this is with power saver turned off @ THX mode (naks). ;D
Sa local cable SDTV shows, I really think Dynamic mode is useful. ;)
ENJOY!
but when i was playing a movie earlier .. as usual never got to 200 watts (power save ON) :)
but still this is good as my previous LG was clocking the same consumption, partida 1080p ito :D
Post by: revskie on Sep 23, 2012 at 11:15 AM
Post by: timber715 on Sep 23, 2012 at 02:13 PM
Cheers
Post by: james16 on Sep 23, 2012 at 04:52 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 23, 2012 at 04:55 PM
Congrats Jamy, ganda talaga ng tv mo, even while playing Adele using your phone....bili ka na kasi bro, worth every penny .. inisip ko nalang 3 - 4 years ago yung 42pv80 ko mas mahal pa dito :D :D
Cheers
re: adele SD playback, gulat din ako :D i was expecting worse, but got better PQ ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 23, 2012 at 04:59 PM
Will this be the new pv80? Sorry that i haven't back read to much here, will this be the best replacement for a 42c10, considering budget and full hd capacity? TiaAFAIK ST or UT Series ang katapat ng PV80 bro, katapat siguro nito PY800/850. 8)
Post by: james16 on Sep 23, 2012 at 05:04 PM
Post by: timber715 on Sep 23, 2012 at 08:34 PM
bili ka na kasi bro, worth every penny .. inisip ko nalang 3 - 4 years ago yung 42pv80 ko mas mahal pa dito :D :DYup I was the one who asked if that was the vt50... Hehehe, already got a 60st50 coming, i just hope it is as good as they say it is... O0
re: adele SD playback, gulat din ako :D i was expecting worse, but got better PQ ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 23, 2012 at 10:48 PM
Yup I was the one who asked if that was the vt50... Hehehe, already got a 60st50 coming, i just hope it is as good as they say it is... O0ahh uu i remember na :D
btw sarap naman nun, 60st50 .. congrats in advance .. magkakano inabot yun? :D
Post by: timber715 on Sep 23, 2012 at 11:14 PM
ahh uu i remember na :Dlanded... usd nga lang :(
btw sarap naman nun, 60st50 .. congrats in advance .. magkakano inabot yun? :D
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 23, 2012 at 11:16 PM
2.1k landed... usd nga lang :(wow swerte ;D
Post by: timber715 on Sep 23, 2012 at 11:18 PM
Post by: barrister on Sep 24, 2012 at 12:30 AM
Yup I was the one who asked if that was the vt50... Hehehe, already got a 60st50 coming, i just hope it is as good as they say it is... O0
Congrats! I think you're the first ST50 owner here.
Post by: timber715 on Sep 24, 2012 at 12:45 AM
Congrats! I think you're the first ST50 owner here.Salamat, it was your posts as others that led me to it....probably not the first siguro, I'm sure there are others before me.
Hopefully it comes before November para early Christmas ^-^
kaya lang bakit ganun, kumuha na ko ng tv pero ang dami pang hinihintay? :'(
sana lumabas na rin ang pch 400 :o
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 24, 2012 at 10:33 AM
landed... usd nga lang :(
Post by: timber715 on Sep 24, 2012 at 11:01 AM
Did you check how much difference with the 60GT50 or 60VT50 - ay wala yatang 60VT50? (it's only 50 and 65 in Japan right now pero baka meron din 60 sa US and other territories)The 60gt50 costs 400$ more while the 55vt50 cost about 800$ more ( seems there is no 60" for the vt50 series)... Initially thought of getting the gt50 but most reviews say I don't need it since the st50 was as good with slightly less features (features I don't need)....
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 24, 2012 at 12:27 PM
The 60gt50 costs 400$ more while the 55vt50 cost about 800$ more ( seems there is no 60" for the vt50 series)... Initially thought of getting the gt50 but most reviews say I don't need it since the st50 was as good with slightly less features (features I don't need)....
Post by: timber715 on Sep 24, 2012 at 12:31 PM
Not really as good as the GT50 IMO. Matalas di hamak ang blackness, contrast and details on the GT50 which is quite apparent kapag pinagtabi mo with the ST50. Pero, the ST50 is quite very good as is, and its cost performance is really really high. I was comparing the equivalent models of the 55ST50 and a 50GT50 in Tokyo recently - and I was favoring the 55ST50 because of the bigger size and approx. $500 less price - makakalimutan ko naman yung PQ ng GT50 pag-uwi ko, I thought.hehehe, for what its worth, I'm really no videophile. I bought it for the wife who loves to watch TV. For me, I just listening to music... So a better price, good quality and a happy wife, what more do I need? ;D ;D ;D
ah yes, PCH a-400 pa pala, hope it comes out soon O0
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 24, 2012 at 12:44 PM
Anyway, looking forward to your impressions on the ST50 kapag dumating. Cheers!
Sana local prices ng 60ST50 in 2012 would be around 2.2K USD. Kung Sept 2013, mahal yon ;D ;D
hehehe, for what its worth, I'm really no videophile. I bought it for the wife who loves to watch TV. For me, I just listening to music... So a better price, good quality and a happy wife, what more do I need? ;D ;D ;D
ah yes, PCH a-400 pa pala, hope it comes out soon O0
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 24, 2012 at 01:12 PM
Maski 10% nalang na depreciation, I would reserve sa Xmas ;D ;D ;D
Cheers!
currently doing my usual ALL white screen burn in ... power consumtion was at 340 - 370 watts. this is with power saver turned off @ THX mode (naks). ;D
but when i was playing a movie earlier .. as usual never got to 200 watts (power save ON) :)
but still this is good as my previous LG was clocking the same consumption, partida 1080p ito :D
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 24, 2012 at 11:07 PM
im not sure bro, kasi medyo iba material nitong nabili ko. parang face towel pero malambot like what timi was describing.
here's the pic ..
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/DSC_0351_zps57f2be02.jpg)
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 24, 2012 at 11:55 PM
Jamy Babez! ;D So anong 3D NMT or HTPC ang ipa-partner mo sa VT30? Naiinggit ako sa yo especially while lookin at the pics. Binuhat mo mag-isa yon with the pedestal?delivered free about 10pm last saturday, bought around 5pm, 1st time ko yata ito sa new apartment na di nagbuhat ng bagong stuff. :)
Maski 10% nalang na depreciation, I would reserve sa Xmas ;D ;D ;D
Cheers!
still using HTPC parin bro via my asus laptop with ATi 6470 (or 6570) better than NMT :P
also, left the 3d glasses as im not gonna use it at the moment, but told vic to keep it until next month *para may extra discount*. ;D
btw if i dont have plans watching 3d movies on this tv as it is really small, should i get the 3d glasses?
kasi my previous LG 3dtv glass was almost unused (a little over 2 hours sa isang glass and unused yung 2nd glass)
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 25, 2012 at 01:52 PM
Magkano ba yung 3D glass in Manila? I fancy yung RF 3D glasses ng Panasonic pero mahal yon. I think nerveblocker got 3rd party 3D glasses at more reasonable price that work very well with his Panasonic Plasma. Oh, try mo hiramin from the Doc maski isa muna? ;D
But you have to make sure that your ASUS laptop can handle 3D BD ISO. SBS, OU - no problem maski KMP so 3D glass nalang tlaga ang kailangan. ;)
btw if i dont have plans watching 3d movies on this tv as it is really small, should i get the 3d glasses?
kasi my previous LG 3dtv glass was almost unused (a little over 2 hours sa isang glass and unused yung 2nd glass)
Post by: timber715 on Sep 25, 2012 at 02:41 PM
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 25, 2012 at 02:48 PM
Why not get something like this... I'm no expert but i think the price is ok... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007EHI1DK/ref=oh_details_o00_s01_i00
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 25, 2012 at 04:42 PM
Oh yeah, puede to import the 3D glasses through Oreoshake or Anya perhaps? Baka mas mura than buying from our resident sellers.
Why not get something like this... I'm no expert but i think the price is ok... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007EHI1DK/ref=oh_details_o00_s01_i00
What if maraming 3D BD ISO or SBS OU na accessible, wala ka pa rin plan? Dont you think you'd appreciate the value of your VT30 more if you give it's 3D function a try - for whatever it's worth?ill just get the 2 3d glasses from vic for additional 5k, yun galing mismo sa unit. :D
Magkano ba yung 3D glass in Manila? I fancy yung RF 3D glasses ng Panasonic pero mahal yon. I think nerveblocker got 3rd party 3D glasses at more reasonable price that work very well with his Panasonic Plasma. Oh, try mo hiramin from the Doc maski isa muna? ;D
But you have to make sure that your ASUS laptop can handle 3D BD ISO. SBS, OU - no problem maski KMP so 3D glass nalang tlaga ang kailangan. ;)
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 25, 2012 at 05:01 PM
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/DSC_0353.jpg)
power consumption very very bright scene ..
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/DSC_0346.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/DSC_0345.jpg)
all white screen .. uber bright obviously ;D
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/DSC_0341.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/DSC_0347.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/DSC_0343.jpg)
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 25, 2012 at 05:06 PM
Maganda sana yung link given by timber715 because it's for an RF/Bluetooth type 3D glasses, kaso nakasulat for "2012 models only". Anyway, hopefully RF/Bluetooth type (model 2011) na yung supplied with the VT30 para mas maganda ang range, mahaba batt life and less ang crosstalk.
Regards
ill just get the 2 3d glasses from vic for additional 5k, yun galing mismo sa unit. :D
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 25, 2012 at 05:12 PM
SD content, better PQ in person :P O0 O0
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 25, 2012 at 05:29 PM
Jamy position yourself at around 45 degrees or higher from the TV front. Magiging mala HD yang SD. hehehepwede, kaso wala keystone correction ang mata ko bro ;D
Post by: timber715 on Sep 25, 2012 at 06:10 PM
Hi Jamy!Allan, st50 rin naman kukunin mo, sbay mo na yan.... >:D
Maganda sana yung link given by timber715 because it's for an RF/Bluetooth type 3D glasses, kaso nakasulat for "2012 models only". Anyway, hopefully RF/Bluetooth type (model 2011) na yung supplied with the VT30 para mas maganda ang range, mahaba batt life and less ang crosstalk.
Regards
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 25, 2012 at 10:07 PM
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 25, 2012 at 10:29 PM
Well infrared comm (model TY-EW) should be OK within your viewing range. Nerveblocker must be using the same with his UT30 and I think he's quite happy. Just keep the battery level good. :)
hmm wala nakalagay sa panasonic kung RF or bluetooth or infrared. :(
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 25, 2012 at 10:43 PM
Bro I just checked Panasonic's Catalogue. The RF/Bluetooth 3D Glasses (model TY-ER) are exclusively for 2012 models nga pala. So that's one difference between the 2012 and 2011 models.bilis mo bro allan, kakalabas lang ng google search sa akin, istorbo talaga itong trabaho oh! ;D
Well infrared comm (model TY-EW) should be OK within your viewing range. Nerveblocker must be using the same with his UT30 and I think he's quite happy. Just keep the battery level good. :)
Post by: Tonmeister on Sep 30, 2012 at 04:48 PM
After that incident, I was informed by a good friend who's deep in the retail business that there were only a limited number of VT30 units (around 120) that were brought to the Philippines for liquidation purposes. These units all came from Sinagpore and are those that didn't pass in-store customer testing or were sent back because of the green and pink tint issue. He added that a software update cannot guarantee to fix the problem because it's a manufacturing fault. I think their marketing strategy worked by dumping the units in our country because all the panels I tested and even the one I purchased was sold a few days later.
If you have the VT30 and happy with it then I suggest that you don't go look for the green and pink tint issue because it's hard to unsee. Just enjoy your set.
Post by: barrister on Sep 30, 2012 at 10:37 PM
Thanks for taking the time.
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 30, 2012 at 11:46 PM
Why didnt you consult with your friend who claims to know the story of those VT30, prior to getting a VT30 in the first place? Assuming that your friend's info is true, does that imply na alam din dapat yon nung mga resident sellers natin, yet they offered the VT30 at such low prices without any asterisk or disclaimer?
After that incident, I was informed by a good friend who's deep in the retail business that there were only a limited number of VT30 units (around 120) that were brought to the Philippines for liquidation purposes. These units all came from Sinagpore and are those that didn't pass in-store customer testing or were sent back because of the green and pink tint issue. He added that a software update cannot guarantee to fix the problem because it's a manufacturing fault. I think their marketing strategy worked by dumping the units in our country because all the panels I tested and even the one I purchased was sold a few days later.
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 30, 2012 at 11:53 PM
Post by: barrister on Oct 01, 2012 at 12:58 AM
Tonmeister pano mo nakita bro? penge naman idea, hanapan ko rin yun sakin thanks.
Baka naman wala talagang issue yung sa yo sir.
Pero napansin daw niya sa crabs scene ng Pirates of the Caribbean 3, maybe green and pink areas on the white sand:
(http://img.yy2k.com/Files/200x120_13/Pirates_Of_The_Caribbean_Whack_A_Crab.jpg)
Post by: revskie on Oct 01, 2012 at 07:34 AM
Guys, remember I complained as well about this earlier?
What I did was I played the same material exhibiting the color anomalies I complained about in my 42PV80, 42X30 and 42X20.
The same anomalies occurred with these displays.
Then I used the gray test patterns and did not see anything.
After that, I decided to keep the TV. ;D
Cheers mate!
Post by: Tonmeister on Oct 01, 2012 at 08:02 AM
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Whose marketing strategy? Panasonic or the gray market?
Sorry to disappoint you but I cannot share that information.
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Why didnt you consult with your friend who claims to know the story of those VT30, prior to getting a VT30 in the first place?
As I've said in my post, I got the information after the incident. And honestly, I still would have gone through the process of purchasing a VT30 because it is such a beautiful TV to begin with.
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does that imply na alam din dapat yon nung mga resident sellers natin, yet they offered the VT30 at such low prices without any asterisk or disclaimer?
I don't have info on this and wouldn't even speculate.
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Tonmeister pano mo nakita bro? penge naman idea, hanapan ko rin yun sakin thanks.
It was my wife and daughter who first spotted that there were green and pink patches in the "crab" scene in Pirates 3. From there, I tested other materials to verify and confirm the issue.
Like what barrister said, maybe your TV does not have any issue. Don't go looking for it if you don't see it. Just enjoy your TV.
Fellow members, this post was intended to make everyone aware that the green and pink tint issue is real and not just some urban legend that we've read on the internet. In the end, it's really your decision if you can live with the issue or not. In my case, it was my wife and daughter who complained and are annoyed with the problem. If I was the only one watching, then maybe I wouldn't have seen the issue, kept the VT30, enjoy watching HD movies, and would not have bothered to create this post.
Post by: Tonmeister on Oct 01, 2012 at 08:05 AM
It might be the material that was used.
Guys, remember I complained as well about this earlier?
What I did was I played the same material exhibiting the color anomalies I complained about in my 42PV80, 42X30 and 42X20.
The same anomalies occurred with these displays.
Then I used the gray test patterns and did not see anything.
After that, I decided to keep the TV. ;D
Cheers mate!
There you go. A happy camper :)
Post by: Clondalkin on Oct 01, 2012 at 08:27 AM
Revskie I think your case is different. Yours appears to be a uniform tint but Tonmeister's case is that of patches (mantsa-mantsa).
Post by: barrister on Oct 01, 2012 at 08:42 AM
I just want to see how it looks on my V2.
Your TV will look fine.
The problem only started on the 2011 models, so your TV doesn't have that issue.
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 01, 2012 at 08:52 AM
It might be the material that was used.bro revskie, got the idea from you (gray test patterns), wala akong nakita (both store and when it got delivered). :)
Guys, remember I complained as well about this earlier?
What I did was I played the same material exhibiting the color anomalies I complained about in my 42PV80, 42X30 and 42X20.
The same anomalies occurred with these displays.
Then I used the gray test patterns and did not see anything.
After that, I decided to keep the TV. ;D
Cheers mate!
will keep the tv as well obviously but im just curious about this pink and green thingy :D
Post by: Timithekid on Oct 01, 2012 at 09:06 AM
bro revskie, got the idea from you (gray test patterns), wala akong nakita (both store and when it got delivered). :)
will keep the tv as well obviously but im just curious about this pink and green thingy :D
Hehe, try not to look for it classmate, baka kada scene sa kahit anong movie hanapin mo eh...baka mainis ka lang. ;)
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 01, 2012 at 09:12 AM
Baka naman wala talagang issue yung sa yo sir.will check it out bro, pero diba dapat mas kita ito sa all white screen?
Pero napansin daw niya sa crabs scene ng Pirates of the Caribbean 3, maybe green and pink areas on the white sand:
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 01, 2012 at 09:18 AM
Hehe, try not to look for it classmate, baka kada scene sa kahit anong movie hanapin mo eh...baka mainis ka lang. ;)curious lang classmate, gusto ko rin kasi makita.
i dont know if bro barrister remembers pati yun sa irobot green thingy di ko rin nakita :D
Post by: Clondalkin on Oct 01, 2012 at 09:36 AM
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 01, 2012 at 09:38 AM
sinong pwede mag upload ng high resolution nung image ni bro barrister ;D
salamat in advance :D
Post by: Tonmeister on Oct 01, 2012 at 12:16 PM
Hehe, try not to look for it classmate, baka kada scene sa kahit anong movie hanapin mo eh...baka mainis ka lang. ;)
Agree. So, I won't bother posting the movies and slides used and the method I developed for testing.
Based on the photos posted by revskie, I think his TV is ok. The panels I tested are unacceptable.
Post by: Clondalkin on Oct 01, 2012 at 01:31 PM
Tonmeister, anong pinalit mong HDTV nga pala? Regards
Post by: Tonmeister on Oct 01, 2012 at 03:23 PM
Tonmeister, anong pinalit mong HDTV nga pala? Regards
None, got a refund. I'll just wait for the 2012 models to come out and hopefully the issues are acceptable/tolerable. Sayang talaga coz maganda features and aesthetics ng VT30.
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 01, 2012 at 03:26 PM
Agree. So, I won't bother posting the movies and slides used and the method I developed for testing.oki lang bro, matagal ko na rin naman gusto makakita nun :D
Based on the photos posted by revskie, I think his TV is ok. The panels I tested are unacceptable.
maski nung 2nd plasma ko, pv80 di ko rin sya mahanap. curious lang din ako :)
post mo lang :D
Post by: Tonmeister on Oct 01, 2012 at 04:31 PM
oki lang bro, matagal ko na rin naman gusto makakita nun :D
maski nung 2nd plasma ko, pv80 di ko rin sya mahanap. curious lang din ako :)
post mo lang :D
Didn't had the time to take photos as I was focused on returning and replacing the unit. Just for reference, the color uniformity of the PV8 is far superior compared to the VT30s that I tested. But the PQ of the VT30 is hands down superb.
Post by: Carlo777 on Oct 01, 2012 at 04:41 PM
Will post review later today or tomorrow.
Post by: Clondalkin on Oct 01, 2012 at 04:56 PM
I wonder if something like Pixel Flipper of Wow Disney can rectify non-uniform screen?
will check it out bro, pero diba dapat mas kita ito sa all white screen?
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 02, 2012 at 02:10 AM
Eh baka similar to IR, white screen tends to mask screen non-uniformity.yung tv ko kasi, has much better screen shots than that of revskie, pero im sure mas maganda yung actual nun kay revskie compared to the images he posted.
I wonder if something like Pixel Flipper of Wow Disney can rectify non-uniform screen?
try ko nalang download ng Pirates nalang maski di ko type yung movie ;D
yan yun latest diba, part where JDepp was high?
Post by: seventhheaven on Oct 02, 2012 at 08:11 AM
Post by: Clondalkin on Oct 02, 2012 at 08:20 AM
1. Who's providing the local warranty on the VT30s - Panasonic Philippines or just the store? Kung store lang, probably not likely to have "Panasonic's Approved Engineer."
2. What are the manufacturing dates of those VT30s? Are they before Feb 2012 (release of the referenced fix), or after.
Panasonic finally issues update for 'green blob' plasma problem
http://www.whathifi.com/news/panasonic-finally-issues-fix-for-green-blob-plasma-problem
sana kaya gawin to ng Panasonic Philippines.
I just bought a 42VT30. I don't see any green blobs on my screen but just to be sure I will also try the crab scene from POTC 3 once I'm able to get a copy of the said movie.
;)
Post by: barrister on Oct 02, 2012 at 01:14 PM
That news was 8 months ago pa, but anyway.
1. Who's providing the local warranty on the VT30s - Panasonic Philippines or just the store? Kung store lang, probably not likely to have "Panasonic's Approved Engineer."
Hindi lang 8 months ago yan. Yung whathifi article lang ang 8 months ago, pero yung sinasabing fix ay 2011 pa lumabas sa UK.
Like I've always said, Panasonic never fixed the green blob issue.
The so-called "fix" from Panasonic UK is not a simple firmware update that can be performed by the user. It was a panel update that can only be performed by a Panny tech. Maybe a service menu had to be entered before the patch can be installed.
Did the update fix the issue? I don't think so. Otherwise, we would have heard about it from the US and UK forums.
Here's a sample post from the UK avforums which tends to cast doubt as to whether the fix was effective:
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03-01-2012, 7:13PM #398
Soundy
New Member
Originally Posted by slc79
Someone on here had the fix applied, but it did not change anything for him regarding the green blobs.
Yes I had a fix applied which was not a "normal" firmware update, it was described as a panel firmware update, and it unfortunately did not fix the green on my set. It came from Panasonic and was applied by an engineer of my retailer (via SD card).
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http://www.avforums.com/forums/plasma-tvs/1545348-green-tinge-fault-panasonic-vt30-gt30-st30-part-2-a-14.html
The UK thread is now on its fifth part. Sample post from the part 5 thread:
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16-04-2012, 8:04 PM #5
thejollyboys
Member
...Panasonic approved engineer came out and tried the software update, it was exactly the same as it was be before the update.
Didn't even check to see if the software was updated successfully, tele came back on after the update, but people still looked like they'd been touched by the incredible hulk. Homes under the hammer looked like someone had painted the walls with "white with a hint of green...
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http://www.avforums.com/forums/plasma-tvs/1618569-green-tinge-fault-now-full-panasonic-2011-range-part-5-open-any-2012-sets.html#post16771115
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 02, 2012 at 02:03 PM
btw nung namount na yung tv, test ko yung wifi for defects. automatic nag update ng firmware. wala akong napansin na bago. :D
any other movies na pwede ma-test mga bro? ^-^
Post by: Carlo777 on Oct 02, 2012 at 05:31 PM
We set this side by side with my 42V20, a 42C10 and a Sharp Quattron!
Screen Uniformity:
First thing I always check is the panel's uniformity. Compared to the V20 and the C10, the VT30 exhibits a near perfect screen play field, though we did notice a slight corner "light" but it's nothing really bad. Our V20, on the other hand, did not display any corner "unevenness", so it's worth mentioning.
Because of the numerous raves about this TV, we decided to be as critical as possible. It will also help me decide on wether the VT30 will be a keeper or not ;)
Initial HD test:
Fired up "The curious case of Benjamin Button" on our PS3 set to 1080p with 24p activated (All other picture enhancements from the TV was set to off). The black levels of this TV is AMAZING! Jet black, deep and inky, what I like about the VT30 (for now) is the fact that the picture definition is very plasma for a plasma...Reason I say this is because right after the V20, Panasonic plasma models were trying to emulate the brilliance of LCD and LED, which wasn't really a very good idea!
Colors were excellent and really brings me back to why I love plasma since the days of the PV70 (Had a short exrta marital affiar with LED after the V20). However, we noticed that there was a slight brightness shift to the VT30 but it's something we have to confirm, because as I write this initial impression...My partner and I are still marveling at this baby out of the box.
Tell you what...Our new test blu-ray "Titanic" from Amazon just arrived and we will watch the whole movie (2-D/3-D) today and give you guys feedback.
Green blobs? Don't know yet, but if anyone can point out a particular movie and scene, we'll look at it right away.
For now...bye :)
Post by: Tonmeister on Oct 02, 2012 at 09:54 PM
Cons
Although 50Hz improved, still some image break-up
'Green Blobs' visible on full white screens
Ineffective 2:2 Cadence Detection
Non-Detachable Mains Lead
HDMI Ports Too Close to Edge
3D Glasses Lenses are too Small
http://www.avforums.com/review/Panasonic-VT30-TX-P42VT30-42VT30-3D-Plasma-Review.html (http://www.avforums.com/review/Panasonic-VT30-TX-P42VT30-42VT30-3D-Plasma-Review.html)
Aside from the green tint, I also saw pink tint on other portions of the screen. It looked more like patches of land or stain than 'blob' as more commonly described.
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 02, 2012 at 10:41 PM
Surfing the net wanting to learn more about the green and pink tint issue, I came across this review which best describes what I saw and experienced:thanks, atleast when im doing all white via dead pixel tester .. it is .. ALL WHITE! :D
Cons
Although 50Hz improved, still some image break-up
'Green Blobs' visible on full white screens
Ineffective 2:2 Cadence Detection
Non-Detachable Mains Lead
HDMI Ports Too Close to Edge
3D Glasses Lenses are too Small
http://www.avforums.com/review/Panasonic-VT30-TX-P42VT30-42VT30-3D-Plasma-Review.html (http://www.avforums.com/review/Panasonic-VT30-TX-P42VT30-42VT30-3D-Plasma-Review.html)
Aside from the green tint, I also saw pink tint on other portions of the screen. It looked more like patches of land or stain than 'blob' as more commonly described.
still curious about the crab scene though. :)
Post by: Randy1981 on Oct 03, 2012 at 02:11 AM
Post by: Carlo777 on Oct 03, 2012 at 06:22 PM
Playing "Titanic" on the PS3 via HDMI and set to 1080p/24p, the VT30 remains solid! Colors are accurate and the night scenes are not marred by black crush. "Titanic" is a stellar Blu-Ray transfer and all it's glory is well rendered on this Panny. As usual motion handling is well done with mild flickers while 24p is activated, switching off 24p removes the movie cadence as well as the flickers...No major complains!
PS3:
Quick pans while playing "Resistance" set to 720p displays perfect input response time with no motion blurs, however, green trails can still be seen (although feint) while playing in high contrast areas!
...
3D and DVD next!
Post by: barrister on Oct 03, 2012 at 07:07 PM
As usual motion handling is well done with mild flickers while 24p is activated, switching off 24p removes the movie cadence as well as the flickers...No major complains!
I'm not familiar with the VT30 menu, but I hear that 24p can be set to 48Hz, 60Hz, or 96hz.
Users are saying that 24p flicker appears when the 48hz option is selected. In your case, does the 24p flicker appear even when set to 60Hz or 96Hz?
I assume that a 96Hz refresh should be the best setting for 24p.
48Hz is so slow that flicker is expected. 60Hz might be fast enough, yet the uneven matching of 60 refreshes with 24 frames (60 / 24 = 2.5) will require an uneven 2 refreshes for one frame, then 3 refreshes for the next, which could produce a very slight judder. 96Hz should produce smoother motion, since 96 / 24 gives us an even 4 refreshes per frame.
Post by: seventhheaven on Oct 03, 2012 at 08:03 PM
when I searched and played that infamous crab scene.
Question lang, should I use a specific mode when watching the scene para makita yung green or pink smudges? I even set the brightness to max pero wala pa rin akong nakita eh. Safe na ba unit ko?
My 42VT30 is made in Thailand and based on the model #, mukhang from Singapore nga ito based from the model #.
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 03, 2012 at 10:43 PM
just played POTC 3 ripped @ 720p on my VT30. No green or pink stuff seennov.2011 manufacture date?
when I searched and played that infamous crab scene.
Question lang, should I use a specific mode when watching the scene para makita yung green or pink smudges? I even set the brightness to max pero wala pa rin akong nakita eh. Safe na ba unit ko?
My 42VT30 is made in Thailand and based on the model #, mukhang from Singapore nga ito based from the model #.
btw mine is also made in thai and is a singapore model. :D
will have to download pirates and check it out.
Post by: seventhheaven on Oct 03, 2012 at 11:02 PM
nov.2011 manufacture date?
btw mine is also made in thai and is a singapore model. :D
will have to download pirates and check it out.
How to check the manufacturing date sir?
Post by: Carlo777 on Oct 03, 2012 at 11:24 PM
Tsip the 24p was activated via the PS3 24p option but I'll check the TV as well.
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 04, 2012 at 09:37 AM
How to check the manufacturing date sir?sa likod ng unit bro. or sa box yata :)
Post by: seventhheaven on Oct 04, 2012 at 10:34 AM
sa likod ng unit bro. or sa box yata :)
kita ko na sa likod ng unit bro. September 2011 nakalagay.
Post by: Carlo777 on Oct 04, 2012 at 11:00 AM
The VT30 delivered good DVD performance with our Pioneer 410v DVD player. Set to 1080p we witnessed very good blacks with accurate colors and a clean definition. But on a side note, the over-all picture was softer than our 42C10 and even softer than a Panasonic 32C30X LCD TV.
Comparing the VT30 with our V20 and the Quattron for "upscaled" performance yielded the same results, as detailed above.
Bringing the resolution down to 480p, though, nearly equalized the performance with the C10 and the V20 still with the slight upper hand.
Green blob:
Here it is!
We saw it when playing "Castlevania: Lords of Shadow" on the PS3! Chapter 1 (Stage 4), while the hero was fighting an Ice Titan in an all white background. There is a Youtube video that also shows this problem, I'll look for the link again...
Castlevania LOS is my favorite game and I play it almost everyday on my Quattron and the C30X (If i'm forced to go back to the bedroom because it's way too late at night :-[) Now, if I played this particular game on the VT30 first.. maybe, I wouldn't be bothered by it, but since both LCD models and even the V20 didn't have his issue. Seeing it now on my favorite game is upsetting me.
Switching back and forth from the VT30 to the cheap C30X LCD to see the difference and if the "blob" will grow on me is not working. It's ugly and in a way, almost unacceptable! For this particular game, it looks really bad and it's ruining the experience...
I'll go to work now and get back to it later... :'(
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 04, 2012 at 12:57 PM
ito ba yan bro? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lVLlhkp0kA&feature=relmfu
wait for video to finish, there's a lot of other videos that shows it :D
Post by: gunslinger on Oct 04, 2012 at 01:02 PM
Post by: Clondalkin on Oct 04, 2012 at 01:11 PM
Big question is, saan kukuha ng replacement?
Is the blob considered a manufacturing defect and valid for replacement yung unit if found?
Post by: Carlo777 on Oct 04, 2012 at 02:02 PM
That's it brad! But mas masama in real life for me, watched the other videos and now mas worried na ako...I shouldn't have watched the rest :(
Brader paki check naman sa screen ng Xbox 360 if possible. Thanks!
@gunslinger
It should be but it looks like a number of peeps are ok with it. I haven't seen it on a movie so it's hard to say how bad it is outside a video game. But like I said for the game "Castlevania" it looks really bad.
@Clondalkin
I don't think the VT30 has a formal launch here....Sa Sights and Sounds they will replace the unit but if it's not a simple unit specific issue then most probably the replacement will have the same problem.
Post by: revskie on Oct 04, 2012 at 02:44 PM
Post by: Carlo777 on Oct 04, 2012 at 02:51 PM
Soli na ba natin? ;D
Mukhang ganoon na nga brader...Tapusin ko lang yung review but it's not a keeper for me...Compared sa video ni boss ninja medyo green lang but sa actual may pink mix pa.
What's happening...? Anyway, ayos naman sa movie but when you already know what to look for masisira lang ulo mo...PV80 and C10 ROCKS! Hehehe
More testing later... ;)
Post by: revskie on Oct 04, 2012 at 02:56 PM
Post by: Clondalkin on Oct 04, 2012 at 02:57 PM
Ask yourself a more difficult question - anong kapalit for 60K na 50 incher? - take the risk to import an ST50 from Amazon?
Soli na ba natin? ;D
Post by: revskie on Oct 04, 2012 at 03:21 PM
Post by: Carlo777 on Oct 04, 2012 at 04:24 PM
So using the other displays did not exhibit the same color abnormality?
Not sure. But I'm asking for another unit, sana unit dependent lang talaga...
Post by: rony on Oct 04, 2012 at 04:55 PM
Post by: Tonmeister on Oct 04, 2012 at 05:03 PM
What's happening...? Anyway, ayos naman sa movie but when you already know what to look for masisira lang ulo mo...PV80 and C10 ROCKS! Hehehe
Same sentiment here. It's hard to unsee once you've seen it. That's why my advice since the start was not to look for it or else you'll go insane :)
Going to the PV8, it does not have such issues and screen uniformity is unrivaled. Colors are solid and displayed accurately across the entire panel.
Post by: Carlo777 on Oct 04, 2012 at 06:01 PM
Same sentiment here. It's hard to unsee once you've seen it. That's why my advice since the start was not to look for it or else you'll go insane :)
Going to the PV8, it does not have such issues and screen uniformity is unrivaled. Colors are solid and displayed accurately across the entire panel.
The PV8 was really a great unit as well, it has the same picture quality as the PV80.
Back to the review:
Enough to say that the green blob issue is really present on the VT30 just like how Tonmeister pointed out earlier! Though I wouldn't really look for them in my movies, we know it's there and it's all a matter now if one accepts this issue or not.
Initial plus and minuses:
+
-Superb Blacks and one of the best we've seen
-Great colors
-Fantastic moving resolution
-Great game input response time
-Good SD performance
-Good screen uniformity (would have been better but the V20 beats the VT30 here)
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-SD/DVD materials not as crisp as native 720p panels
-Phosphor lag or green trails in high contrast areas
-Green blob and pink flashes in certain games (I still need to see this on movies, but we know it's there)
Later again and update when replacement unit comes in.
Post by: barrister on Oct 04, 2012 at 09:12 PM
Yun bang green blob meron din sa vt20? Yun kasi yun unit ko ???
Wala. Kung meron man, hindi considered "known issue" yan.
The green blob is a 2011 issue. VT20 is a 2010 model.
I keep saying that the sellers should import the ST50 (gray imports are fine with me), but they still imported the VT30. Mura siguro ang VT30 ngayon kaya mas gusto nila.
Anyway, pag sumakit ang ulo nila sa dami ng returns, they only have themselves to blame. >:(
Post by: shockool on Oct 04, 2012 at 10:52 PM
Not sure. But I'm asking for another unit, sana unit dependent lang talaga...
Which seller did you got it from sir?
Post by: revskie on Oct 04, 2012 at 11:14 PM
Not sure. But I'm asking for another unit, sana unit dependent lang talaga...
Carlo,
I mean using the other displays in your home did not show the anomaly?
Post by: Carlo777 on Oct 04, 2012 at 11:35 PM
Nope it did not...Tested Castlevania on the FF Tvs:
Plasma:
Panasonic 42PY800 (FULL HD)
Panasonic 42V20 (FULL HD)
LCD:
Panasonic 32C30 (HD Ready)
LED:
Sharp Quattron 40 (FULL HD)
Toshiba 40XL700 (FULL HD)
@shockool
Sights and Sounds boss!
Post by: Stagea on Oct 05, 2012 at 02:14 AM
-Green blob and pink flashes in certain games (I still need to see this on movies, but we know it's there)
I saw this sa display unit sa mall showing a disney flick. :(
Post by: juanch on Oct 05, 2012 at 02:24 AM
Post by: barrister on Oct 05, 2012 at 01:34 PM
Now I'm scared to get this TV, does the ST50 exhibit the same green blob issue? ???
No. The ST50 issue is slight vertical banding. It does not have the 2011 green blob, although a few units have been reported to have slight green spots.
Post by: Carlo777 on Oct 05, 2012 at 02:59 PM
I saw this sa display unit sa mall showing a disney flick. :(
How did it look sir?
Post by: Stagea on Oct 05, 2012 at 03:07 PM
How did it look sir?
The picture had a mild tint. Greenish in the middle and pinkish on both sides. I find it most visible with light hues (though it's almost always visible if you look for it).
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 06, 2012 at 09:19 AM
ano ba dapat ang makikita ulit? ???
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 06, 2012 at 09:29 AM
ng makita ko na yan green lanter na yan este blob and tinge ;D
Post by: revskie on Oct 06, 2012 at 11:55 AM
Post by: seventhheaven on Oct 06, 2012 at 05:05 PM
watched pirates world end. dont know what exactly what to look for so it looked normal to me.
ano ba dapat ang makikita ulit? ???
yung crab scene bro. Since halos white yung color ng scene environment supposedly may green (at may pink pa yata) na stain na visible sa white. wala rin akong nakita except white eh.
since wala akong Castlevania LOS, i've downloaded the 720p vid of the heroe's fight with the Ice Titan from this youtube link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds2qt1fBTw4
all white pa rin nakita ko sa boss fight na yan.
Hopefully walang problema na lumabas sa future coz as of now, wala akong issues sa unit ko.
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 07, 2012 at 05:26 AM
yung crab scene bro. Since halos white yung color ng scene environment supposedly may green (at may pink pa yata) na stain na visible sa white. wala rin akong nakita except white eh.check ko ito later, atleast dito sa video na nakita ko re:Castlevania may obvious na green thingy.
since wala akong Castlevania LOS, i've downloaded the 720p vid of the heroe's fight with the Ice Titan from this youtube link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds2qt1fBTw4
all white pa rin nakita ko sa boss fight na yan.
Hopefully walang problema na lumabas sa future coz as of now, wala akong issues sa unit ko.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_jhxCQI42U - castle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmyhnYz7e5o&feature=relmfu - dont know vid, pero obvious
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 07, 2012 at 05:41 AM
Post by: seventhheaven on Oct 07, 2012 at 07:19 AM
meron nga green ... green life bar! >:D >:D
ayos! >:D
Post by: Randy1981 on Oct 07, 2012 at 12:03 PM
Post by: edboy7 on Oct 09, 2012 at 10:46 AM
Post by: barrister on Oct 09, 2012 at 04:18 PM
Our Boss is getting a VT50 65 incher....for 239T,,,in house warranty thru LIS...is that a good deal? thanks :)
Yes, it's a good deal.
65VT50 launch price in Singapore was S$6,499, or P219,200.
Remember that it's hard to sell because it's too high-end. Because of that, no regular retailer bothers carrying it in its inventory. So if a retailer like LiS goes out of its way to give a niche market this service, then it's only right that LiS should be rewarded by its customer with a generous mark-up.
On that premise, I'd say even P290K would still be a fair price. So the LiS price of P239K is good.
Post by: Carlo777 on Oct 09, 2012 at 06:41 PM
I'm eyeing the 50GT50 I need to get myself a new fix :-\
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 10, 2012 at 02:15 AM
Well, i think it's a coin toss for me if I'd take this unit back to the shop...no plans of testing another VT30 bro?
I'm eyeing the 50GT50 I need to get myself a new fix :-\
Post by: Carlo777 on Oct 10, 2012 at 02:54 PM
no plans of testing another VT30 bro?
Di na brader I know it will still be there but that said my partners and I still agree that the VT30 is the best for movies of all the tvs we've tested this year.
Maganda naman talaga if you can bypass the blob you have a winner here.
Post by: kane on Oct 10, 2012 at 08:01 PM
Post by: barrister on Oct 10, 2012 at 09:37 PM
One is the plasma break in DVD from Evangelos:
http://www.eaprogramming.com/downloads/download_main.htm
The other is the AVSHD790 calibration disc from avsforum:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/948496/avs-hd-709-blu-ray-mp4-calibration
I recommend the AVSHD790 because it alows you to choose different shades of color. Try a 70% to 80% gray. Also try white.
Copy the slides on a USB flash. May MP4 version yan. Take it to the store, then play it on the TV's USB-in port. Pag OK sa iyo yung TV, buy it.
Post by: edboy7 on Oct 11, 2012 at 12:40 PM
Post by: kane on Oct 11, 2012 at 01:46 PM
Check blobs using plain color slides. If you don't have slides, try downloading the free ones.
One is the plasma break in DVD from Evangelos:
http://www.eaprogramming.com/downloads/download_main.htm
The other is the AVSHD790 calibration disc from avsforum:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/948496/avs-hd-709-blu-ray-mp4-calibration
I recommend the AVSHD790 because it alows you to choose different shades of color. Try a 70% to 80% gray. Also try white.
Copy the slides on a USB flash. May MP4 version yan. Take it to the store, then play it on the TV's USB-in port. Pag OK sa iyo yung TV, buy it.
Thanks sir. Yung blobs ba, will you see it out of the box palang, or does it develop overtime with usage?
Post by: barrister on Oct 11, 2012 at 02:10 PM
Thanks sir. Yung blobs ba, will you see it out of the box palang, or does it develop overtime with usage?
Yes, it's visible out of the box. Most have it, some don't; some only have a very slight green blob.
Some green blobs fade over time. But for others, a pink shade slowly appears on the sides as the green blob fades.
(http://cdn.avsforum.com/4/49/525x525px-LL-491e0e34_vbattach241398.jpeg)
(From avsforum): This is supposed to be a plain light gray slide.
Post by: Carlo777 on Oct 12, 2012 at 12:47 AM
The output from our source was limited to 1080i for movies and 720p for games. The blob was still there but not as prominent. You guys may give this a try but like I said it wasn't effective..
Newer Ps3 models are said to limit blu-ray to 480p via component cables, our PS3 is a Japanese launch 60GB model.
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 12, 2012 at 01:45 AM
Post by: barrister on Oct 14, 2012 at 01:00 PM
Got paranoid and just want to verify .. if you don't have, you won't have it in the future like after a year or so? Sana maski 3 years lang until bumaba price ng 65"
There's no way to verify it with certainty, of course. But based on what I've read on forums:
(a) If you don't have it when the TV is new, you won't have in the future either;
(b) If you have it when the TV is new, the green blob can fade over time; but the TV can also get a pink tint as the green fades.
Kaya wag mo nang isipin sir, kasi tatanda ka lang agad kakaisip... :D
Basta ang isipin mo, meron ka nang magandang TV ngayong October, tamang-tamang broken-in na pagdating ng Christmas holidays ... 8)
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 14, 2012 at 03:52 PM
will do bro! im just glad i stopped looking for flaws! so far all the test passed, nakakatamad na at di na ako nag eenjoy, ilang beses ko nauulit ang scenes just to look for this green blob, green and pink tinge. baka wala naman talaga at madisappoint lang ako kung meron :D ;D
Kaya wag mo nang isipin sir, kasi tatanda ka lang agad kakaisip... :D
Basta ang isipin mo, meron ka nang magandang TV ngayong October, tamang-tamang broken-in na pagdating ng Christmas holidays ... 8)
btw bro i already ran all whitewash for a little over 24 hours, should be enough for burning those pixels ;D
last na ito .. parang di ako nagka-IR, o baka naman di ko lang nabusisi. will update the thread kung meron. in the mean time, avengers and nba2k13 muna ako :D
Post by: Clondalkin on Oct 14, 2012 at 06:44 PM
BTW, napanood mo na ang movie called Red Lights? that's a good demo of plasma's awesome details under very dark scenes - too many very very dark scenes and the movie is pretty good as well. Give it a try on your VT30.
will do bro! im just glad i stopped looking for flaws! so far all the test passed, nakakatamad na at di na ako nag eenjoy, ilang beses ko nauulit ang scenes just to look for this green blob, green and pink tinge. baka wala naman talaga at madisappoint lang ako kung meron :D ;D
btw bro i already ran all whitewash for a little over 24 hours, should be enough for burning those pixels ;D
last na ito .. parang di ako nagka-IR, o baka naman di ko lang nabusisi. will update the thread kung meron. in the mean time, avengers and nba2k13 muna ako :D
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 14, 2012 at 07:51 PM
Bro, kalokohan na walang IR ang VT series. hehehe. Pero kayang kaya burahin ng a few hours of pixel flipper or something similar. Yung V2 ko, iniwan ko lang ng 2 hours on pixel flipper ng Disney Wow while napping - tanggal pati malalaking IR ng clocks and station IDs ng Japanese channels.i know i know hahaha .. di ko lang siguro napapansin kasi iba ang hinahanap ko na flaw. :D
BTW, napanood mo na ang movie called Red Lights? that's a good demo of plasma's awesome details under very dark scenes - too many very very dark scenes and the movie is pretty good as well. Give it a try on your VT30.
will try red lights. dami kong pending movies to watch, darn xbox kaadik. going back to IR pala. been playing most of the time (kaya natambak movies to watch), pero di ko talaga nakitaan ng hint of IR. will look closely next time :D
Post by: Brel on Oct 28, 2012 at 12:45 AM
Post by: cnn on Oct 28, 2012 at 12:47 AM
I remember my/our first plasma the LG32PC5r... buhay na buhay ang kulay... Now Im enjoying even better PQ with a bigger screen!!! Ayus talaga :D
Post by: Brel on Oct 28, 2012 at 08:51 PM
"Our Custom calibration took a while and was hampered by poor menu design with excessive nesting and a need to back completely out of the menus frequently, but afterward our software and charts told us that the VT30's color was nearly perfect (see our Custom post-calibration chart here). Unfortunately, when we looked at actual program material, our eyes told us that colors were still inaccurate, with reddish skin tones and too much saturation throughout. We were mystified because the TV's colors measured extremely well (Delta errors of less than 3 across the board), but compared to other well-calibrated TVs in our lineup, we saw a different story that contradicted the charts. Rather than mess with Custom further to attempt to resolve the discrepancy, we settled on THX for our evaluation. We've contacted Panasonic seeking clarity on this issue and will update this review if we hear back."
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20071241-1/panasonic-updates-vt30-plasma-tv-firmware/#!
Post by: cnn on Oct 29, 2012 at 11:40 AM
Been watching some 1080P MKVs on the PANA 42VT30...
The PQ and black levels are simply amazing... DYNAMIC PICTURE SETTINGS ARE AWESOME!!!
Best value 42 Full HD 3D plasma i can highly recommend to anyone...
;D ;D ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 30, 2012 at 11:12 AM
Ninjababez... brother... sawakas... nakaabot din budget ko sa 42VT30.... ang ganda talaga ng PQ at True Black levels nya... samples a few of my 1080p files ... gulat ako sa ganda ng full HD PQ ng PANA...
I remember my/our first plasma the LG32PC5r... buhay na buhay ang kulay... Now Im enjoying even better PQ with a bigger screen!!! Ayus talaga :D
Awesome bro!!! perfect example ka ng good things happen to those who wait :)
Btw mga bro finally had the time to play castlevania LOS, all picture settings wala green blob!! Yeah!!
Post by: jduval on Oct 30, 2012 at 02:00 PM
mapapa-vt30 yata ako :((
Post by: rhizom3 on Oct 30, 2012 at 02:08 PM
Post by: Clondalkin on Oct 30, 2012 at 02:11 PM
yung VT, pang day and night, yung ST pang night lang. ;D
Kung hindi super bargain/clearance sale/questionable stock - yung deal, the 42VT should be priced around 60K. In other words, the outdated 42ST is STILL being sold at retail, while you are saving 20K for the outdated 42VT. Kaya kung outdated ST din lang, the outdated VT at 39K is a total bargain and most definitely worth checking.
Guys, I'm eyeing on 42ST30 that costs around 35k at SnS (33k at Listening room) that includes 2 pairs of 3D glasses. What are the differences between this one and VT30 aside from THX and custom calibration? SnS has it at around 39K. Is additional 4k really worth it?
Post by: rhizom3 on Oct 30, 2012 at 02:18 PM
day and night (if everything works well).
yung VT, pang day and night, yung ST pang night lang. ;D
Does this mean that VT has better PQ during daytime and lesser reflection? I thought ST has some filtering as well. How about other features like supported formats and DLNA? Are they both the same?
Post by: Clondalkin on Oct 30, 2012 at 02:37 PM
If VT is the Chairman Of The Joint Chief Of Staff, ST is a Captain - hehehe. (up to 2011 ne...ibang usapan yung models this year). So whatever the ST has and can do, the VT should have and can do (better) - unless they stripped down the Asia model, but definitely not vise versa.
DLNA still is rather immatured for all TVs, but Im happy to be proven otherwise, so keep it wired or at least minimize WIRELESS stuff para reliable ang operations and streaming especially. Also, stick with your current device for internet needs as the proprietary portals of HDTVs are very limited anyways - again Id be happy to be corrected on this.
Does this mean that VT has better PQ during daytime and lesser reflection? I thought ST has some filtering as well. How about other features like supported formats and DLNA? Are they both the same?
Post by: rhizom3 on Oct 30, 2012 at 02:38 PM
Kung hindi super bargain/clearance sale/questionable stock - yung deal, the 42VT should be priced around 60K. In other words, the outdated 42ST is STILL being sold at retail, while you are saving 20K for the outdated 42VT. Kaya kung outdated ST din lang, the outdated VT at 39K is a total bargain and most definitely worth checking.
Thank you for your response.
In other words, hindi pa super bargain price ang 35K sa 42ST30? Ok, Listening room (megamall) offers it with 33k including the glasses. Not a 'super bagain price' still compared to 42VT30?
Curious lang kasi ako kung anong makukuha ko sa 4K for the VT model. Salamat. :)
Post by: Clondalkin on Oct 30, 2012 at 02:44 PM
Those VT30 local prices are not normal...kaya check carefully. worth checking for sure.
Thank you for your response.
In other words, hindi pa super bargain price ang 35K sa 42ST30? Ok, Listening room (megamall) offers it with 33k including the glasses. Not a 'super bagain price' still compared to 42VT30?
Curious lang kasi ako kung anong makukuha ko sa 4K for the VT model. Salamat. :)
Post by: rhizom3 on Oct 30, 2012 at 03:01 PM
Of course, Montero is an SUV and we all know the 'huge' differences against the lancer (being a sedan). I just need to educate myself what are those 'huge' differences between an ST and a VT that will convince myself to invest additional 4k (or 6k) to get the latter. But hey, I get your point. Probably, I'll visit SnS or other stores to see the real world differences between these models myself and decide from there.
One more thing - Others said that Plasmas can consume power at around 200W-300W while LEDs are around 100-150 of the same panel size. In the real world, what will be the average consumption?
Post by: Clondalkin on Oct 30, 2012 at 03:16 PM
My ACTUAL consumption on my 50V2 purchased in March 2010 is 30% of nameplate rating. My wife who uses a 2010 42V20 still does not know the effect of that TV on her monthly bill. Panasonic Japan claims 25% (of the backplate rating) for the 2011 VT model and even lower for the 2012 models. Boss Vic says it's 50% on his locally available plasmas. Take your pick. Perhaps the ST is not as efficient as in higher than 30% or 50%, I dont know - but then it's nameplate rating should be lower than the VT anyways. So malamang mas makakatipid ka ng KONTI sa ST than a VT - as in a few kWH per month.
Compared sa LEDs? If every Filipino saves 100 Pesos a month, then the country would have extra 10B Pesos in a month. Wow cool! But to you as an individual, how big is 100 pesos a month, or 200? Problema, if you like your plasma TV too much, you'd use the aircon longer and the power hungry AVR and subs - that will increase your electric bill - but can you blame the TV? ;)
And dont forget, an equal grade LED will cost you a lot more than the VT30 which is quite likely un-recoupable during the entire usable lifespan of your HDTV. So saan ka nakatipid in the end?
Post by: rhizom3 on Oct 30, 2012 at 04:19 PM
Reason why I raised this (e.g. Power consumption) is that I was contemplating between the ST30 and the Samsung 40EH5000 D-Led TV. The budget really is ~30K and leaning towards ST30 until I read about the VT30. I'm not sure if I can stretch the budget to get that. Is there a Panny plasma that's full-HD but not 3D with the same panel as VT? I really don't need 3D to begin with.
Post by: Clondalkin on Oct 30, 2012 at 04:28 PM
Reason why I raised this (e.g. Power consumption) is that I was contemplating between the ST30 and the Samsung 40EH5000 D-Led TV. The budget really is ~30K and leaning towards ST30 until I read about the VT30. I'm not sure if I can stretch the budget to get that. Is there a Panny plasma that's full-HD but not 3D with the same panel as VT? I really don't need 3D to begin with.
Post by: rhizom3 on Oct 30, 2012 at 09:08 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 30, 2012 at 11:05 PM
Hahaha... I'll think it over muna. Christmas is fast approaching and I bet the prices will go down further. I'm thinking to buy it without 3D glasses muna.bro wag ka mag isip, mag demo ka nalang ng units. inspect the tv for the known bugs.
reason kung bakit kita minamadali ay dahil marami na taong may alam nitong magandang deal na ito, at nag iipon nalang. pag naunahan ka nila bumili talo ka :D
btw finally got the HD version of pirates crab scene. awesome pq ;D
green whut? :)
Post by: Clondalkin on Oct 31, 2012 at 07:52 AM
I dont expect the prices to go down because the ST50 will most likely be higher anyways. This model was TOP OF THE LINE - there was nothing else higher in 2011. Inuubos lang eto.
bro wag ka mag isip, mag demo ka nalang ng units. inspect the tv for the known bugs.
reason kung bakit kita minamadali ay dahil marami na taong may alam nitong magandang deal na ito, at nag iipon nalang. pag naunahan ka nila bumili talo ka :D
btw finally got the HD version of pirates crab scene. awesome pq ;D
green whut? :)
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 31, 2012 at 10:58 AM
Post by: gunslinger on Oct 31, 2012 at 11:37 AM
Post by: rhizom3 on Oct 31, 2012 at 03:48 PM
bro wag ka mag isip, mag demo ka nalang ng units. inspect the tv for the known bugs.
reason kung bakit kita minamadali ay dahil marami na taong may alam nitong magandang deal na ito, at nag iipon nalang. pag naunahan ka nila bumili talo ka :D
btw finally got the HD version of pirates crab scene. awesome pq ;D
green whut? :)
Thanks, man. End of November pa yung release ng bonus eh hehe so most likely early December pa ako makabili. Hanggang 35K lang talaga ang approved ni commander in chief kaya baka ST30 nalang ang kukunin ko. I'll try to renegotiate kay sir Vic kung magkano ang VT30 if without the 3D glasses. Otherwise, dead-end ako sa ST30.
Post by: Clondalkin on Oct 31, 2012 at 04:15 PM
Or, you can just talk to Boss Vic or Dom that whatever you pay for the VT30, his O.R. would show exactly 35K. hehehe. That's a white lie in my opinion.
Whatever you decide on, get a 3D glass and find a way to see me during my Xmas vacation - it's gonna be worth your time.
Living within your means - that's noble.
Thanks, man. End of November pa yung release ng bonus eh hehe so most likely early December pa ako makabili. Hanggang 35K lang talaga ang approved ni commander in chief kaya baka ST30 nalang ang kukunin ko. I'll try to renegotiate kay sir Vic kung magkano ang VT30 if without the 3D glasses. Otherwise, dead-end ako sa ST30.
Post by: rhizom3 on Oct 31, 2012 at 05:06 PM
Whatever you decide on, get a 3D glass and find a way to see me during my Xmas vacation - it's gonna be worth your time.
Thanks, dude. Will do.
Post by: anya618 on Oct 31, 2012 at 05:12 PM
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 01, 2012 at 07:52 AM
Post by: rhizom3 on Nov 01, 2012 at 09:33 AM
Post by: comet on Nov 01, 2012 at 10:31 AM
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 01, 2012 at 10:45 AM
Used both st and vt and i'd go with vt30. It goes with free wifi adapter, better blacks imo and much much much better back panel for inputs especially if you're going to wall mount it.
Post by: comet on Nov 01, 2012 at 10:48 AM
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 01, 2012 at 11:03 AM
Hmmm nice!kailan kaya yun darating?
Post by: rhizom3 on Nov 01, 2012 at 11:11 AM
Post by: cnn on Nov 01, 2012 at 12:09 PM
The 39K VT30 comes with free 3D glasses nga ba? Does that mean you can opt not to have 3D glasses for around 35K?yes... 35k without 3d glasses @ SnS...
better check if they still have stocks...
Post by: comet on Nov 01, 2012 at 12:55 PM
What is a400? Is that an av receiver?sir media player yun
Post by: rhizom3 on Nov 01, 2012 at 01:44 PM
Post by: frontANDcenter on Nov 01, 2012 at 08:42 PM
VT30 + A400 sounds like a perfect full 3DBD combination for Christmas. Hmmm.
This is my plan.. After I get my hands on the a400, arrival niyo na lang Sir Allan ang hihintayin ko =)
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 01, 2012 at 10:37 PM
sagad nyo na budget for the tv tsaka na yung media player, di kayo mauubusan ng magandang deal sa media player. ;)
Post by: cnn on Nov 02, 2012 at 10:35 AM
dun sa restricted ang budget, wag madaliin ang LAGI NAMAN AVAILABLE na media players. kung may laptop or PC yun muna gamitin. yung AVAILABILITY ng VT30 ang bantayan nyo :D
sagad nyo na budget for the tv tsaka na yung media player, di kayo mauubusan ng magandang deal sa media player. ;)
Tama.. most important is to set and maximize your budget for the TV plasma unit first... the VT30 is already a 2011 model and most likely the stocks for this model will soon be totally sold out to make way for the newer VT50 (2012) model. if you can get the VT30 by nov or december this year at around 38k~39k that would be a very good deal already.
media player or HTPC can be easily bought .... so you can prioritize this later once you have acquired the plasma unit.
Post by: rhizom3 on Nov 02, 2012 at 01:57 PM
Post by: mak_mak on Nov 02, 2012 at 11:18 PM
Tig isa nA tayo sir...haha!
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 03, 2012 at 09:24 AM
Kung talagang bibili rin lang kayo ng Plasma - kung hindi NGAYON, kailan? Kung hindi ikaw, sino? Kung hindi VT30 at bargain price, alin? hehehe
2 units of 42vt30 left sa SnS
Tig isa nA tayo sir...haha!
Post by: puffalan84 on Nov 03, 2012 at 10:04 AM
Hala hala halaparang ad sir Allan ah, convincing.. Hehe
Kung talagang bibili rin lang kayo ng Plasma - kung hindi NGAYON, kailan? Kung hindi ikaw, sino? Kung hindi VT30 at bargain price, alin? hehehe
Post by: mak_mak on Nov 03, 2012 at 12:07 PM
Hala hala halaVt30, next week,kung saan pa po may available. Haha! Thanks to this thread.
Kung talagang bibili rin lang kayo ng Plasma - kung hindi NGAYON, kailan? Kung hindi ikaw, sino? Kung hindi VT30 at bargain price, alin? hehehe
Post by: barrister on Nov 03, 2012 at 06:11 PM
Kung talagang bibili rin lang kayo ng Plasma - kung hindi NGAYON, kailan?
E di next year.
Kung hindi ikaw, sino?
E di sila.
Kung hindi VT30 at bargain price, alin? hehehe
E di ST50 next year at bargain price... :D
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 03, 2012 at 07:13 PM
bro barrister, mukhang alam ko na ang plano mo :P
E di ST50 next year at bargain price... :D
sa tingin ko naman di kailangan ng isang buong taon bago bumaba price ng ST50 :)
Post by: barrister on Nov 03, 2012 at 08:30 PM
bro barrister, mukhang alam ko na ang plano mo :P
sa tingin ko naman di kailangan ng isang buong taon bago bumaba price ng ST50 :)
Hindi naman sir. Kabibili ko lang ng Sammy. 3 years pa bago magpalit.
Binubuwisit ko lang si sir Clondalkin ... :D
Post by: cnn on Nov 03, 2012 at 10:11 PM
If you could make reservation this coming week, I highly suggest you do so to experience the great PQ and great value plasma unit at below 40k price levels.
Not into 3D? Then just get the unit only ... Less 4k...
You can't go wrong with this model...
Post by: DTNS on Nov 03, 2012 at 10:23 PM
Post by: rochie on Nov 03, 2012 at 10:30 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 04, 2012 at 07:42 AM
e550 samsung bro?
Hindi naman sir. Kabibili ko lang ng Sammy. 3 years pa bago magpalit.
Binubuwisit ko lang si sir Clondalkin ... :D
Post by: barrister on Nov 04, 2012 at 08:36 AM
Post by: fleadip on Nov 04, 2012 at 09:25 AM
day and night (if everything works well).
yung VT, pang day and night, yung ST pang night lang. ;D
Kung hindi super bargain/clearance sale/questionable stock - yung deal, the 42VT should be priced around 60K. In other words, the outdated 42ST is STILL being sold at retail, while you are saving 20K for the outdated 42VT. Kaya kung outdated ST din lang, the outdated VT at 39K is a total bargain and most definitely worth checking.
Me likey.. I might just check this out soon :D been reading this thread and I'm just concerned about the greenblobs. Pero when chrstmas comes I might get one and look for it myself lol
Post by: cnn on Nov 04, 2012 at 10:10 AM
Me likey.. I might just check this out soon :D been reading this thread and I'm just concerned about the greenblobs. Pero when chrstmas comes I might get one and look for it myself lol
Im sure that PANA is already aware of this issue and may have already issued a firmware upgrade to resolve this matter...
again... it helps to test the unit and make sure that everything is working well.
Post by: DonMiguel85 on Nov 04, 2012 at 10:56 AM
Post by: cnn on Nov 04, 2012 at 11:09 AM
This blob issue is apparently a flaw in the panel itself and can't be easily fixed with just a firmware update, from what I've heard. It was corrected in the 50 series, so it's a gamble talaga sa VT30.
Maybe you're right... I guess if you have it ... you have it... or else... you got one heck of a VT plasma tv unit :) at a very good price :)
Post by: emvi_2000 on Nov 04, 2012 at 01:32 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 04, 2012 at 06:52 PM
Yes, Sammy 51E550.di mo na pala naantay 50 series next year .. :D
tulad ba ng dati, may naka pila na sa 50c10 mo? ;D
Post by: revskie on Nov 04, 2012 at 08:23 PM
This blob issue is apparently a flaw in the panel itself and can't be easily fixed with just a firmware update, from what I've heard. It was corrected in the 50 series, so it's a gamble talaga sa VT30.
I think our local sellers cover their units with warranty naman. So if anybody is interested with this unit but is deterred by the green blob thingie, i suggest you give it a test first and if its clear of the green blob then buy it.
If for some reason you get it within the warranty period which I highly doubt, then return it.
I think that is more than enough coverage for any prospective buyer against this green blob issue.
And seriously, you really have to consider the excellent PQ this Tv can give you at the price point that they are being sold.
Cheers!
Post by: rhizom3 on Nov 04, 2012 at 08:44 PM
Post by: mak_mak on Nov 04, 2012 at 10:11 PM
Ang tagal ng christmas bonus! Hehe
ilang tulog na lang, vt30 na..haha!
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 05, 2012 at 10:40 AM
Hindi naman sir. Kabibili ko lang ng Sammy. 3 years pa bago magpalit.
Binubuwisit ko lang si sir Clondalkin ... :D
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 05, 2012 at 11:06 AM
Kung interested talaga kayong i-check-out or bilhin ang VT30, better not advertise your intention in this thread. Buy first before you say. Kung kailangan nyong umutang (but definitely sure na magbabayad dapat!), try to do so instead of waiting for Dec, where maraming spending money ang mas maraming prospective buyers. It's not realistic to expect na bababa pa ang presyo ng VT30 at their current levels unless maging philantrophic ang mga sellers - which is unlikely. ;D Susmaryosep napag-usapan na lahat ng topics about this VT30 ng paikot-ikot diba. ;D ;D ;D.
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 05, 2012 at 11:56 AM
sa totoo lang i had my doubts with the unit. im just glad i got it when it got the chance.
sa would be buyers, just check the unit first tapos pag OK wag na patumpik tumpik :D
swerte ninyo willing ako mag share ng test materials ;)
Post by: barrister on Nov 05, 2012 at 10:59 PM
W H A T!?!?!?!? Mahirap ka talaga basahin :o ;D
Nainip na ako sa Panny UT50/ST50 sir.
Ang haba pa naman ng Panny Plasma 2012 thread ko... :P
Post by: cnn on Nov 06, 2012 at 12:33 AM
Here are my questions: What are the chances na aabot sa Xmas ang stocks ng clearance-sale VT30 sa Manila? and, what are the chances na our in-house sellers can possibly re-stock? My opinion - MALABO pareho but I hope Im wrong. ;)
Kung interested talaga kayong i-check-out or bilhin ang VT30, better not advertise your intention in this thread. Buy first before you say. Kung kailangan nyong umutang (but definitely sure na magbabayad dapat!), try to do so instead of waiting for Dec, where maraming spending money ang mas maraming prospective buyers. It's not realistic to expect na bababa pa ang presyo ng VT30 at their current levels unless maging philantrophic ang mga sellers - which is unlikely. ;D Susmaryosep napag-usapan na lahat ng topics about this VT30 ng paikot-ikot diba. ;D ;D ;D.
100% agree on this statement/comment...
If you can borrow funds... get the VT30 now before stocks run out... By december, there is a very good possibility that stocks are already depleted...
BETTER GET YOUR VT30 ASAP... Its already at an incredibly reasonable price... :D
Post by: rochie on Nov 07, 2012 at 09:23 AM
100% agree on this statement/comment...and stocks are running low
If you can borrow funds... get the VT30 now before stocks run out... By december, there is a very good possibility that stocks are already depleted...
BETTER GET YOUR VT30 ASAP... Its already at an incredibly reasonable price... :D
Post by: house_rn on Nov 07, 2012 at 07:30 PM
malabo din mag refresh ng stocks so malabo din palitan ng bago. Im also planning to buy kaso parang hirap sumugal e. Just want to hear your thoughts. Thanks
Post by: revskie on Nov 08, 2012 at 06:23 AM
Post by: house_rn on Nov 08, 2012 at 06:35 AM
Was there ever a documented case of a unit without the green blob symptoms and got affected because of continued normal use? Parang wala ata.
So is it something you can live with? So every unit has this defect pala. Was it fix in VT50?
Post by: darklaurel on Nov 08, 2012 at 07:03 AM
Post by: cnn on Nov 08, 2012 at 07:48 AM
i wonder what's with VT30, it seems lots of people is eyeing for this one.
Simple, it's panasonic's flagship plasma tv in 2011 at an incredibly low price... The 42VT30 use to be selling for about 50k when it was first introduced locally.
PQ and black levels are very close and identical to the now discontinued pioneer Kuro plasma monitor, reference series.
But compared to other brands like the 8 series of Samsung and of Lg, the Pana truly stands out when compared side by side. Clearly Day and night difference.
At this current price of 38k~39k it's a really good bargain for a full HD 3D unit.
The 2012 VT50 series will certainly be more expensive when released here in Manila. Bags pa kasi. And the smallest size in the VT50 series is 50inches...
The42VT30 is perfect for a medium sized bedroom.
Regarding the pink/green blob issue, just like any buyer, it always is a good habit to thoroughly check the unit before buying. There are some PDVD members here who were willing to bring some demo samples to check for this issue.
Again if your unit does have this issue, you can always ask the store to test it and ask for a possible replacement.
So far, my 42VT30 unit is just doing fine. No blob issues so far.
Very glad I got this model.
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 08, 2012 at 09:51 AM
If the latest flagship VT50 is released in Manila soon, how much MORE are you willing to pay for a 50VT50 (relative to the 50VT30 which is about 60K)? Then for benchmarking of VT pricing, how much are the most expensive models of Sony, Sharp, LG, and Samsung in Manila for 50 inch HDTVs?
Regarding the ST50. How much is the expected Manila price of the 42 and 50 model nga pala? 2011's ST30 was reasonable because its panel and video engine were a lot cheaper than that of GT30 and VT30.
Post by: darklaurel on Nov 08, 2012 at 11:12 AM
Simple, it's panasonic's flagship plasma tv in 2011 at an incredibly low price... The 42VT30 use to be selling for about 50k when it was first introduced locally.
PQ and black levels are very close and identical to the now discontinued pioneer Kuro plasma monitor, reference series.
But compared to other brands like the 8 series of Samsung and of Lg, the Pana truly stands out when compared side by side. Clearly Day and night difference.
At this current price of 38k~39k it's a really good bargain for a full HD 3D unit.
The 2012 VT50 series will certainly be more expensive when released here in Manila. Bags pa kasi. And the smallest size in the VT50 series is 50inches...
The42VT30 is perfect for a medium sized bedroom.
Regarding the pink/green blob issue, just like any buyer, it always is a good habit to thoroughly check the unit before buying. There are some PDVD members here who were willing to bring some demo samples to check for this issue.
Again if your unit does have this issue, you can always ask the store to test it and ask for a possible replacement.
So far, my 42VT30 unit is just doing fine. No blob issues so far.
Very glad I got this model.
And this is available where. Parang Wala sa price list Ni sns. I would love to see this before I decide on lg42lm6200
Post by: cnn on Nov 08, 2012 at 12:42 PM
And this is available where. Parang Wala sa price list Ni sns. I would love to see this before I decide on lg42lm6200
Call SnS in shangrila... This units is being offered by sir Vic. 42VT30 is 39k with 3D glasses. Or 35k without the glasses...
Post by: darklaurel on Nov 08, 2012 at 12:47 PM
Call SnS in shangrila... This units is being offered by sir Vic. 42VT30 is 39k with 3D glasses. Or 35k without the glasses...btw thanks for that very long and detailed reply earlier :D
Post by: rochie on Nov 08, 2012 at 08:47 PM
Post by: juanch on Nov 08, 2012 at 08:53 PM
Post by: revskie on Nov 10, 2012 at 06:18 AM
Post by: rhizom3 on Nov 11, 2012 at 02:33 PM
2 units of 42vt30 left sa SnS
Tig isa nA tayo sir...haha!
Yup, akin yung isa. Hehè. As far as I know, last unit na eto from sns. Hehe
Post by: jduval on Nov 11, 2012 at 02:45 PM
iisa nalang ata yan sir
galing ako kahapon dun
sabi may dadating na unit ng 7pm
texted them a couple of times kung sure na dadating ng 7pm but no reply kaya naghanap ako ng iba
nagtext sila ng past 8pm na may stock na daw pero nakakuha na ako kay sir dom for 38k
text and/or call for stock availability before punta sir sigurado po kayo :)
di ko pa mabuksan vt30 ko
wala pa yung anak ko :(
Post by: rhizom3 on Nov 11, 2012 at 03:01 PM
Post by: jduval on Nov 11, 2012 at 03:02 PM
^___^
naunahan nyo ako sir :)
Post by: rhizom3 on Nov 11, 2012 at 03:06 PM
Post by: rhizom3 on Nov 11, 2012 at 03:19 PM
Post by: rhizom3 on Nov 11, 2012 at 03:23 PM
Post by: cnn on Nov 11, 2012 at 09:33 PM
What IS meant was nakuha ko na yung last unit ni SnS. Hehe. I`m enjoying every bit of it. Wala lang akong hi-def na 3d movies. :-(
Congrats on the 42VT30... Ganda ng BLACK levels no? lalo na pag DYNAMIC settings :)
Post by: rochie on Nov 11, 2012 at 10:27 PM
Clondalkin, baka may 3d movies ka jan? Eheheif you near my place i can provide you some materials to test the 3d of your panny,it can be played using the builtin media player :) :)
First time ko manood ng 3d sa plasma at pagkatapos ng isang movie medyo parang hilo ako hahahaha di din kasi talaga ako nanonood ng 3d kahit sa sinehan.i need to source more 3d materials para masanay mata ko hehehehe
Post by: Nikkie on Nov 12, 2012 at 05:34 AM
Post by: DonMiguel85 on Nov 12, 2012 at 06:35 AM
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 12, 2012 at 09:57 AM
Nonetheless, the ST50 is quite a significant improvement compared to the ST30, and given it's reasonable price level, the result is very high cost-performace. However, it is still not the same level as the VT or GT. Pampasaya lang ng mga ayaw gumastos ng additional for a GT or VT yung idea na yon. Pero pag pinagtabi-tabi, iba pa rin ang GT and VT PQ. Ganon pa man, walang tabi-tabing ST, GT and VT in a normal house - sa stores lang meron ganon set-up. So OK na rin talaga iuwi ST50. hehehe
Iba rin ang grade ng panel tech ng GT50 and VT50.
Yung GT50 and VT50 naman have basically the same specs except for the bezel design and extra remote of the VT50. They also got a big boost in terms of steps of gradation - the VT30 has 6,144 versus 12,286 for the ST50 and a massive 24,576 for the GT and VT50. So even the ST50 should really have a slightly better image than the VT30.
Post by: jduval on Nov 12, 2012 at 10:14 AM
naliliitan pa daw yung grade 6 kong anak waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
ito po pala yung price ng pana sa sg
(http://s13.postimage.org/ug8oibdnr/Untitled.png)
SGD price po yan
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Nov 12, 2012 at 10:14 AM
I dont agree. Yes the video engine for the 2012 models have been improved, BUT, the ST50 panel per se is inferior comparatively. The ST50 has weaker black and is slightly blurry and washed-out when viewed right next to the 2011 VT30 - that is quite apparent. Go ahead and try to see for yourselves if you can get a chance. The panel tech of ST50 is not as advanced as that of the VT30, and I dont think ST50 has THX mode. Go try a VT model under THX mode and tell us if you're not blown away. Ang problema lang ng VT30 is that alleged green blob.
Nonetheless, the ST50 is quite a significant improvement compared to the ST30, and given it's reasonable price level, the result is very high cost-performace. However, it is still not the same level as the VT or GT. Pampasaya lang ng mga ayaw gumastos ng additional for a GT or VT yung idea na yon. Pero pag pinagtabi-tabi, iba pa rin ang GT and VT PQ. Ganon pa man, walang tabi-tabing ST, GT and VT in a normal house - sa stores lang meron ganon set-up. So OK na rin talaga iuwi ST50. hehehe
Iba rin ang grade ng panel tech ng GT50 and VT50.
I guess there is a reason why Panasonic released different models since iba iba ang capability nila. And of course mas mahal if mas high end.
Same din sa car, iba ang presyo ng 4 x 2 sa 4 x 4 model of the same car make and model. Mas mahal ang 4 x 4 sa 4 x 2.
Yung GT50 and VT50 naman have basically the same specs except for the bezel design and extra remote of the VT50. They also got a big boost in terms of steps of gradation - the VT30 has 6,144 versus 12,286 for the ST50 and a massive 24,576 for the GT and VT50. So even the ST50 should really have a slightly better image than the VT30.
I dont think Panasonic will release a lower end model to be better than the high end model...
Post by: rhizom3 on Nov 12, 2012 at 12:19 PM
if you near my place i can provide you some materials to test the 3d of your panny,it can be played using the builtin media player :) :)
First time ko manood ng 3d sa plasma at pagkatapos ng isang movie medyo parang hilo ako hahahaha di din kasi talaga ako nanonood ng 3d kahit sa sinehan.i need to source more 3d materials para masanay mata ko hehehehe
Thanks, man. I'm in Pasig specifically along Mercedes Ave. Saan ka ba located?
Post by: rhizom3 on Nov 12, 2012 at 12:29 PM
Congrats on the 42VT30... Ganda ng BLACK levels no? lalo na pag DYNAMIC settings :)
On my untrained eyes (not a videophile), I'm blown away with the PQ! Thrice ko na inulit yung 720p ko na Avatar so sobrang saya ko sa PQ.. hehehe. It's very SHARP and contrast and blacks are freaking amazing! How much more kaya pag 1080p content.
Hindi pa ito calibrated and I'm using True Cinema mode (HDD source). I prefer this over dynamic. THX is only available if source is via HDMI. My 3 year old LG DVD player doesn't have HDMI. It only has composite. Lahat ng HD movies ko nasa HDD so I'm using the built-in media player most of the time. I don't know if I ever need a player (or blueray for that matter) that has HDMI out coz lahat ng movies ko soft copy. Hehe. Mahal pa masyado ang mga orig Blue Ray discs.
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 12, 2012 at 04:04 PM
Thanks, man. I'm in Pasig specifically along Mercedes Ave. Saan ka ba located?
Post by: jduval on Nov 12, 2012 at 06:20 PM
my only gripe is that manual channel setup T___T
imagine setting up 99 channels manually???
other than that..... superb
napapangiti ako pag nanonood :D
even those 200mb+ video file looks hd
:)
Post by: rhizom3 on Nov 12, 2012 at 09:41 PM
Im a tricycle ride away - kung Japanese standard, a bicycle ride away. If you get a 3DBD player by Xmas (yung Measy and Egreat ang pinakamura yata), dadalhan pa kita ng chokolate. hehehe.
Thanks, bro. Like I said on my previous posts, sobrang lagpas na kami sa budget when I got the VT30 so sa built-in media player muna hehehe. I don't have enough dada for a 3DBD player. Maybe next year..
Right now, I'm on a lookout for a cable TV provider. :-)
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 12, 2012 at 11:27 PM
Im a tricycle ride away - kung Japanese standard, a bicycle ride away. If you get a 3DBD player by Xmas (yung Measy and Egreat ang pinakamura yata), dadalhan pa kita ng chokolate. hehehe.OT: dalaw ka sakin bro, stella mariz corner c.raymundo lang ako :D
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 12, 2012 at 11:29 PM
Thanks, bro. Like I said on my previous posts, sobrang lagpas na kami sa budget when I got the VT30 so sa built-in media player muna hehehe. I don't have enough dada for a 3DBD player. Maybe next year..oki lang yan bro, atleast yun main concern (TV) meron ka na .. VT30 pa ;)
Right now, I'm on a lookout for a cable TV provider. :-)
Post by: totiproti on Nov 13, 2012 at 08:07 AM
Post by: rhizom3 on Nov 13, 2012 at 11:28 AM
OT: dalaw ka sakin bro, stella mariz corner c.raymundo lang ako :D
Oh really now! Lapit ka lang pala. Sige sir PM kita. Thanks.
Post by: JhunDV on Nov 13, 2012 at 02:17 PM
Post by: jduval on Nov 13, 2012 at 02:56 PM
current 42 user and planning to upgrade to 50 na rin
benta ko na agad yung 42 ko
tapos ako kuha nyan :D
maliit daw kasi sabi ng anak ko :((
tanong lang
bakit hindi po nito maopen yung shared folder sa pc ko?
nakikita sya pero not accessible daw
pwede naman maopen sa android based gadgets
salamats
Post by: kenyat1081 on Nov 13, 2012 at 03:04 PM
@jhundv
current 42 user and planning to upgrade to 50 na rin
benta ko na agad yung 42 ko
tapos ako kuha nyan :D
maliit daw kasi sabi ng anak ko :((
tanong lang
bakit hindi po nito maopen yung shared folder sa pc ko?
nakikita sya pero not accessible daw
pwede naman maopen sa android based gadgets
salamats
Magkano sir? :)
Post by: rochie on Nov 13, 2012 at 05:00 PM
this tv is almost good for me
my only gripe is that manual channel setup T___T
imagine setting up 99 channels manually???
other than that..... superb
napapangiti ako pag nanonood :D
even those 200mb+ video file looks hd
:)
Post by: jduval on Nov 13, 2012 at 06:18 PM
Sir pwedeng auto tune yan hehehehe piliin mo lang american standard doon sa settings wag singapore ganyan sa akin dati daming langgam ng reception ko kahit catv buti naalala ko sabi ng binilhan ko na american/us standard catv ang piliin wag yung defaultganun pala yun?
ilang oras din akong nagsetup ng channels hahaha
salamat sir :)
@kenyat1081
sir sa mga kakilala ko po sya release sir
yung malapit lang sa amin para hindi mahirapan sa shipping :)
contact mo po si sir dom, may stock pa po sya
Post by: gunslinger on Nov 13, 2012 at 06:32 PM
Post by: jduval on Nov 13, 2012 at 06:34 PM
malapit sa hotel delfino sir
Post by: gunslinger on Nov 13, 2012 at 06:40 PM
Fr those who are using the media player, have you noticed that it takes a while for it to read a large capacity hard drive? Medyo mabagal magread compared to my LG 32 inch tv.
Post by: jduval on Nov 13, 2012 at 06:45 PM
yes sir
medyo mabagal nga sya magbasa ng kahit 500gb lang na ext hdd
Post by: rhizom3 on Nov 13, 2012 at 07:07 PM
Which part ba ang mabagal? When the TV's reading the drive (right after you plug it in the USB port) or when opening/playing a movie?
Post by: kenyat1081 on Nov 13, 2012 at 07:10 PM
ganun pala yun?
ilang oras din akong nagsetup ng channels hahaha
salamat sir :)
Noted po sir jhundv
@kenyat1081
sir sa mga kakilala ko po sya release sir
yung malapit lang sa amin para hindi mahirapan sa shipping :)
contact mo po si sir dom, may stock pa po sya
Post by: cnn on Nov 13, 2012 at 10:13 PM
Post by: gunslinger on Nov 14, 2012 at 06:28 AM
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 14, 2012 at 09:35 AM
So what's the latest supply situation on the 50VT30? Meron pa ba?
Post by: jduval on Nov 14, 2012 at 09:51 AM
Can the VT30 play a 1080p MKV direct from the USB port, or 720p ang limit? Just curious, but it seems mas convenient (and perhaps more reliable) pa rin ang standalone media player.it can play 1080p files from usb port sir
So what's the latest supply situation on the 50VT30? Meron pa ba?
=============
question:
can it not access shared folder from a pc?
Post by: gunslinger on Nov 14, 2012 at 10:18 AM
Post by: jduval on Nov 14, 2012 at 10:23 AM
configured naman sir
nakakapaginternet naman gamit itong tv
naaacces ko din yung xbmc at plex setup ko
pero di nya maopen yung shared folder
tried to open shared folder sa android device at naoopen naman
can play movies dun sa shared folder
di ko lang mapagana dito sa tv mismo
Post by: gunslinger on Nov 14, 2012 at 10:26 AM
I agree that stand alone media player is still the way to go. But the USB port of the TV should still help in simplifying things for some technologically challenged people. Like for example in my case, the TV is in the province and the users are not used to modern media players. I would prefer to provide them with a portable hard drive with instructions on how to browse and play the content via the USB input of the TV rather than ask them to configure and connect a media player. Less items to check in case it doesn't work.
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 14, 2012 at 10:29 AM
Post by: gunslinger on Nov 14, 2012 at 10:30 AM
Pag-uwi ko this Dec tsaka ko pagsasawaan yung TV and learn kung ano pwede ko gawin. hehehe
Post by: edboy7 on Nov 14, 2012 at 12:39 PM
Post by: cnn on Nov 14, 2012 at 03:38 PM
Can the VT30 play a 1080p MKV direct from the USB port, or 720p ang limit? Just curious, but it seems mas convenient (and perhaps more reliable) pa rin ang standalone media player.
So what's the latest supply situation on the 50VT30? Meron pa ba?
Listening Room megamall has one 50VT30 @60k...
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 14, 2012 at 03:43 PM
5.5 weeks until my next visit sa Manila. May matitira kaya???
Listening Room megamall has one 50VT30 @60k...
Post by: cnn on Nov 14, 2012 at 03:55 PM
Thanks for the info!wow... thats a long wait. maybe you can try calling when you get here... kaso the 50Vt30 is a fast moving item :)
5.5 weeks until my next visit sa Manila. May matitira kaya???
Post by: DTNS on Nov 14, 2012 at 09:34 PM
do you guys think there will still be some stocks left by early 2013? ::)
Post by: cnn on Nov 15, 2012 at 12:45 AM
I'm planning to get the Panny 42VT30 for my display upgrade sometime next year. (I'm currently using an LG 42LK450).
do you guys think there will still be some stocks left by early 2013? ::)
Good choice on choosing the Pana 42Vt30...
But unfortunately, the VT30 series is being sold at very good and really unbeatable price at 38k~39K... and is considered as a fast moving item amoung the resellers here in PDVD...
I'd say that your chances of getting one by January 2013 might be low... Better get/reserve your unti as early as possible...
Per my inquiry the other day, the following stores have the VT30
Listening Room (megamall) --- 50VT30 & 42VT30
SnS Shangrila - 42VT30
OT --- I tested the 3D feature of the 50VT30 the other day in megamall... IMO, mas ganda ng quality compared to LG / Samsung... but again, im no expert... just an ordinary TV user here :)
Post by: jduval on Nov 15, 2012 at 08:19 AM
video used: walking dead
size: 150mb
reso: 848 x 480
(http://s7.postimage.org/k9mzhohzv/1352938514362.jpg)
dynamic: 128-257
normal: 118
cinema: 137-146
t.cinema: 141-146
photo: 142-166
will post 1080p tests later
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 15, 2012 at 08:25 AM
wow... thats a long wait. maybe you can try calling when you get here... kaso the 50Vt30 is a fast moving item :)
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Nov 15, 2012 at 09:47 AM
nasa high 20s and low 40s na pala,...
Samantalang 54k pa ang bili ko ng 42pv70 ko,... :o
Post by: house_rn on Nov 15, 2012 at 07:30 PM
Post by: revskie on Nov 15, 2012 at 10:27 PM
mga gurus what slides can i use so i can check the green blob on the vt30? planning to buy this weekend. thanks
Back read brod. Some links were posted by barrister. Download and store sa USB drive and let it play sa USB port ng VT30. Cheers!
Post by: house_rn on Nov 15, 2012 at 10:55 PM
Back read brod. Some links were posted by barrister. Download and store sa USB drive and let it play sa USB port ng VT30. Cheers!Got it brod. Thanks. Finally natapos na din tv hunting ko and may go signal na ni kumander. This should be my first plasma tv. Cheers everyone!
Post by: DTNS on Nov 16, 2012 at 09:45 PM
Got it brod. Thanks. Finally natapos na din tv hunting ko and may go signal na ni kumander. This should be my first plasma tv. Cheers everyone!
you've made a good choice! congratulations! :)
Post by: _kamatis on Nov 16, 2012 at 10:44 PM
Post by: house_rn on Nov 16, 2012 at 11:02 PM
just a suggestion.. bitin ang 42" mag 50" na kung kaya.. promise.. based on my experience. :(
Sagad na budget ko sa 40K bro. Pahirapan pa yun bago aprubahan ni misis. :D BTW, I saw a 50" Ledtv na Skyworth sa SNS asa 43K ata. Mukhang waiting pa muna ko bago makakuha ng VT30. Mukhang its worth the wait naman upon reading this thread.
Post by: house_rn on Nov 16, 2012 at 11:04 PM
you've made a good choice! congratulations! :)
Problema lang walang stock kay Vic and Dom. Willing to wait naman ako. :D
Post by: cnn on Nov 17, 2012 at 12:15 AM
Problema lang walang stock kay Vic and Dom. Willing to wait naman ako. :DI think meron pa isang unit 42VT30 sa megamall Listening room... try calling them and check :)
Post by: DTNS on Nov 17, 2012 at 10:09 AM
I think meron pa isang unit 42VT30 sa megamall Listening room... try calling them and check :)
meron din ata sa Sound & Vision Banawe. try messaging the pdvd member: tein.
Post by: jduval on Nov 17, 2012 at 03:41 PM
just a suggestion.. bitin ang 42" mag 50" na kung kaya.. promise.. based on my experience. :(tinamaan ako ako ng matindi nito
:D
42vt30 nabili ko
ilang araw palang
gusto ko na magpalit ng 50"
^_^
Post by: mak_mak on Nov 17, 2012 at 04:16 PM
out of stock pa rin sa ibang shop...
Post by: cnn on Nov 17, 2012 at 05:26 PM
tinamaan ako ako ng matindi nito
:D
42vt30 nabili ko
ilang araw palang
gusto ko na magpalit ng 50"
^_^
It really depends on your viewing area.
If the unit will be place in a liviring room or dedicated AV room then 50 would be good...
For me the 42VT30 is just right for my small bedroom...6x9meter area...
eitherway... the VT30 is an excellent choice...
Also... mas malakas sa kuryente yung 50 versus the 42 :)
Post by: roygee on Nov 18, 2012 at 09:13 AM
i am no expert, but out of the box, compared to PS51E550.. colors were noticeably more natural, blacks were blacks (medyo brownish pa nga ang samsung), may mga portion of some movie scenes na "dark" na malabo na sa samsung, but kitang kita pa rin sa Pana. i was really impressed with the 50VT30. and i love seamless border design of Pana.. ang ganda. seems like the price diff is between the two is really worth it.. ipon ulit :)
Post by: revskie on Nov 18, 2012 at 09:22 AM
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 18, 2012 at 09:47 AM
Pls leave 1 set of 50VT30 for me, pls! hehehe
So may 50VT30 stocks pa?
Post by: roygee on Nov 18, 2012 at 09:54 AM
Post by: revskie on Nov 18, 2012 at 09:57 AM
Happy? hehehe.
Pls leave 1 set of 50VT30 for me, pls! hehehe
Alan,
Abot ka pa, ser!
Rev
Post by: house_rn on Nov 18, 2012 at 11:26 AM
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 18, 2012 at 12:15 PM
But I think I promoted this TV too much. ;D ;D ;D
Anyway, go ahead and see for yourself the VT30 hanggang may chance pa kayo...definitely best buy for 42 and 50 until promo lasts and basta walang green mantsa...so please test before purchase. :)
Post by: cnn on Nov 18, 2012 at 12:38 PM
Post by: DTNS on Nov 18, 2012 at 12:46 PM
Wow. There are Still stocks of the 50inch model. One of the best plasma units indeed. Christmas is just a few weeks away and I'm sure that there Will Still be some stocks of there 50inch units due to It's relatively higher price.
the 50 inch has a slightly prohibitive price (60+T) vs 35-39k of the 42VT30. it's very likely that there are still stocks of the 50VT30.
Post by: cnn on Nov 18, 2012 at 01:01 PM
the 50 inch has a slightly prohibitive price (60+T) vs 35-39k of the 42VT30. it's very likely that there are still stocks of the 50VT30.
Tama kayo sir...
I just confirmed with SnS over the phone that they do have stocks of the 50VT30 still available...
4units to be precise... Kaya those who are planning to get their VT30 plasma units before Christmas better make your reservations ASAP.
The price of the 50incher units are indeed at a premium compared to their 42inch model...
Best value pa din ang 42VT30 selling at 39k... COSTING ABOUT PHP928.50 per inch :D
The 50VT30 sells from 60k ~ 62k (depending where you buy the unit).... COSTING ABOUT PHP1,200 PER INCH...
either way, both are excellent choices for your Home entertainment requirements...
If you have the funds, the 50VT30 is one of the best in the market...
But if you want value for your money, the 42VT30 is also an excellent choice :D
Post by: Nikkie on Nov 18, 2012 at 01:12 PM
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 18, 2012 at 04:28 PM
So kahit maging ZERO ang electric bill contribution ng LED, hindi nyo mababawi ang at least 40K difference until you buy your next HDTV.
Post by: DTNS on Nov 18, 2012 at 05:40 PM
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 18, 2012 at 05:44 PM
buying and owning a plasma tv is like buying and owning a sports car, it requires expensive high-octane gasoline. you need to pay more for premium performance. ;)
Post by: DTNS on Nov 18, 2012 at 05:48 PM
But the current VT30 price is like fueling with LPG at F1 performance.
thats great news for prospective and current owners then! :)
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 18, 2012 at 06:20 PM
If we refrain from discussing about this TV and keep quiet until Xmas, baka umabot stocks until Xmas. ;D ;D ;Dgusto mo audition ko para sayo bro? ill go with your wife, basta weekend lang. mas malapit narin ako sa inyo eh :)
But I think I promoted this TV too much. ;D ;D ;D
Anyway, go ahead and see for yourself the VT30 hanggang may chance pa kayo...definitely best buy for 42 and 50 until promo lasts and basta walang green mantsa...so please test before purchase. :)
ill bring my xbox 360 and saved game na castlevania :)
plus loops of gray shades and primary color, and crab scene clip from pirates :)
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 18, 2012 at 11:10 PM
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 18, 2012 at 11:24 PM
gusto mo audition ko para sayo bro? ill go with your wife, basta weekend lang. mas malapit narin ako sa inyo eh :)
Post by: monpunx on Nov 19, 2012 at 02:54 AM
after getting a 42st30, I am craving for more PQ nkaka addict sobra. and yes I agree, the bigger the better, cgro nga dapat nag 50" na din kami, tho nsa room lang kse yung 42" namin dati and malaki na masyado ang 50", never thought na I would place the plasma sa living room after we moved to a new house.
for the price difference ng 42ST30 vs 42vt30, which is mejo konto lang, am I missing a lot not having the 42vt30? pa advise naman mo so I could decide if I wil sell the 42st30 while the reselling price is still ok and switch to the 42VT30..
Post by: cnn on Nov 19, 2012 at 07:13 AM
malaki po ba difference ng 42vt30 over the st30 in terms of picture quality and blacks?
after getting a 42st30, I am craving for more PQ nkaka addict sobra. and yes I agree, the bigger the better, cgro nga dapat nag 50" na din kami, tho nsa room lang kse yung 42" namin dati and malaki na masyado ang 50", never thought na I would place the plasma sa living room after we moved to a new house.
for the price difference ng 42ST30 vs 42vt30, which is mejo konto lang, am I missing a lot not having the 42vt30? pa advise naman mo so I could decide if I wil sell the 42st30 while the reselling price is still ok and switch to the 42VT30..
both the ST30 and VT30 share the same NEOPlasma panels from Panasonic.
But if there are differences, this would probably be very minimal at best.
Here are some specs i pulled from the web.
TH-P42VT30
Real-Life 3D with Breathtaking Depth
FULL HD 3D with 2 sets 3D Eyewear Included
Neo Plasma Panel
Infinite Black Pro with Native Contrast 5,000,000:1
600Hz Sub-field Drive
THX® 3D Certified Display
Comparison of the VT30 and ST30 from a PANA website...
Identical panels...
http://shop.panasonic.com/compare/?itemNbr=TC-P65VT30&itemNbr=TC-P50ST30&itemNbr=TC-P42ST30
Post by: revskie on Nov 19, 2012 at 07:30 AM
malaki po ba difference ng 42vt30 over the st30 in terms of picture quality and blacks?
after getting a 42st30, I am craving for more PQ nkaka addict sobra. and yes I agree, the bigger the better, cgro nga dapat nag 50" na din kami, tho nsa room lang kse yung 42" namin dati and malaki na masyado ang 50", never thought na I would place the plasma sa living room after we moved to a new house.
for the price difference ng 42ST30 vs 42vt30, which is mejo konto lang, am I missing a lot not having the 42vt30? pa advise naman mo so I could decide if I wil sell the 42st30 while the reselling price is still ok and switch to the 42VT30..
Brod, back read. I actually posted pictures of the 50VT30 and 55ST30 side by side. The panels have way much difference. See for yourself. Cheers!
Post by: cnn on Nov 19, 2012 at 07:36 AM
VT50 + GT50 + ST50 series
http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_GB/287749/module/general/compare/products/displayResult.html?p=TX-P50GT50B&p=TX-P50VT50B&p=TX-P50ST50B
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 19, 2012 at 08:31 AM
Neo Plasmas are discriminated by technology and grade. Panasonic uses different panels depending on the model, kahit na all of them are generically called Neo Plasma. Sa Japan para mas madali maintindihan and ma-highlight ang difference, they would use names like "Black Plasma Panel", "Full Black Plasma Panel" and then "Full Black Plasma Panel Plus", then depende sa year of release, they would add I, II, III etc. - and of course, magkaiba ang Video Engine and grade ng anti-glare coating. Kahit nga hindi mo buksan ang TV, by simply looking at the dark screen, obvious na obvious na iba-iba ang panel - iba kadiliman, iba kintab.
Eto pa, try to bring a bring a flashlight to a store and then point it to the panel. Notice kung ano ang ayos ng reflected light on the screen.
malaki po ba difference ng 42vt30 over the st30 in terms of picture quality and blacks?
after getting a 42st30, I am craving for more PQ nkaka addict sobra. and yes I agree, the bigger the better, cgro nga dapat nag 50" na din kami, tho nsa room lang kse yung 42" namin dati and malaki na masyado ang 50", never thought na I would place the plasma sa living room after we moved to a new house.
for the price difference ng 42ST30 vs 42vt30, which is mejo konto lang, am I missing a lot not having the 42vt30? pa advise naman mo so I could decide if I wil sell the 42st30 while the reselling price is still ok and switch to the 42VT30..
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 19, 2012 at 11:18 AM
Eto pa, try to bring a bring a flashlight to a store and then point it to the panel. Notice kung ano ang ayos ng reflected light on the screen.nice to know ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 19, 2012 at 11:19 AM
Thanks Bro. My Wife and I should see this for ourselves together. She's the color master actually. heheheah oki doki, baka kako pwede nya i-stream sayo dyan live while testing ;D
Post by: rhizom3 on Nov 19, 2012 at 11:48 AM
I saw from the interweb na pwede mag illuminate yung remote control. I checked mine and I do not see any option. I can't find it in the manual either.
Sa inyo ba meron?
Post by: whatismyip on Nov 19, 2012 at 11:58 AM
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 19, 2012 at 12:07 PM
ah oki doki, baka kako pwede nya i-stream sayo dyan live while testing ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 19, 2012 at 12:53 PM
Guys,iba iba ang itsura ng remote, baka dahil sa region?
I saw from the interweb na pwede mag illuminate yung remote control. I checked mine and I do not see any option. I can't find it in the manual either.
Sa inyo ba meron?
sakin wala yung light button eh
eto naman meron
(http://www.avforums.com/forums/attachments/plasma-tvs/291868d1328792271-panasonic-vt30-remote-image-4107160247.jpg)
Actually, kaninang umaga ko pa inuudyukan ang Wife na pumayag sa offer mo. I told her malabong may matira sa Dec 22. We'll see what she decides. Kung may wifi sa store, pedeng-pedeng i-Facetime sa akin in realtime..hehehejust tell me when bro, sadyang nag iwan ako ng saved game ng castlevania bro just incase may gustong magpasama mag audition ;)
Post by: rhizom3 on Nov 19, 2012 at 01:22 PM
Nice to have sana lalo na pag madilim ang room and gusto mo kumalikot sa remote. =(
Post by: mak_mak on Nov 19, 2012 at 04:26 PM
how do i adjust the 3D images? can't seem to access the 3D settings on the menu...ang lumalabas lang po eh yung safety precautions.... :-[
Post by: eRiCuTe on Nov 19, 2012 at 04:33 PM
iba iba ang itsura ng remote, baka dahil sa region?
sakin wala yung light button eh
eto naman meron
(http://www.avforums.com/forums/attachments/plasma-tvs/291868d1328792271-panasonic-vt30-remote-image-4107160247.jpg)
just tell me when bro, sadyang nag iwan ako ng saved game ng castlevania bro just incase may gustong magpasama mag audition ;)
nakabili ako ng ganitong remote sa tate...sana gumana sa 42vt30 ko na binili kay sir oliver ng listening..
Post by: revskie on Nov 19, 2012 at 06:19 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 20, 2012 at 02:14 AM
nakabili ako ng ganitong remote sa tate...sana gumana sa 42vt30 ko na binili kay sir oliver ng listening..wala ba binigay LIS sayo na remote?
Post by: eRiCuTe on Nov 20, 2012 at 12:53 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 20, 2012 at 01:49 PM
meron naman.. bumili lang ako ng extra and kasi gusto ko ng may ilaw yun remote ko..ang hirap sa gabi gamitin..and mas ok yung may ilaw na remote kasi yung up down ng chanels nasa taas mas madali hawakan..mas user friendly yung remote ng america..ah oki akala ko wala binigay ;D
same sentiments here bro, gusto ko rin ng glow in the dark remote. yung denon ko kasi di naman umiilaw pero luminouse kahit paano. :)
pero baliktad tayo, mas OK sakin ang nasa baba ang channel and volume control
Post by: juanch on Nov 20, 2012 at 05:06 PM
Whenever I go around to check out the current TV's in our local shops.
I always tell myself to wait for the VT50 or ST50
But our local merchants tell me that those models are going to be priced higher than the currently available ones.
Now, is this true? Or are the merchants just trying to get a sale from me?
Thanks
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 20, 2012 at 06:45 PM
Guys help me.im 100% sure they are telling the truth :)
Whenever I go around to check out the current TV's in our local shops.
I always tell myself to wait for the VT50 or ST50
But our local merchants tell me that those models are going to be priced higher than the currently available ones.
Now, is this true? Or are the merchants just trying to get a sale from me?
Thanks
pero prices should go down .. after a year ;D
Post by: juanch on Nov 20, 2012 at 08:16 PM
im 100% sure they are telling the truth :)
pero prices should go down .. after a year ;D
Yeah I'm sure initial prices of the ST50 and VT50 will be higher.
The reason I'm asking bro Jamy is because even they doubt that the next models will go for as low as the current ones.
Post by: DTNS on Nov 20, 2012 at 09:12 PM
as for me, I'd already be happy with a 42VT30. :)
Post by: cnn on Nov 20, 2012 at 09:39 PM
the only official 50 series models our market is getting are the X50, XT50, and ST50. the only official ST50 locally available is the 65ST50. anlabo ng line-up no? :o
as for me, I'd already be happy with a 42VT30. :)
I agree... The ST50 will most likely be priced at a premiums... maybe the 42" model would sell for about 45k ~ 49K?... An that is just a mid range model... not counting the GT50... and the VT50 which will not have a 42" model...
Like most VT30 owners, The 42VT30 is really one great deal at its current selling price of 38K~39K...
The next possible step would be to look for a super great deal for a 42GT50 or a 50VT50 sometime in Dec2013 or January 2014... That when the X60 series would have been introduced in the market...
Post by: cnn on Nov 20, 2012 at 09:40 PM
sir,
how do i adjust the 3D images? can't seem to access the 3D settings on the menu...ang lumalabas lang po eh yung safety precautions.... :-[
Sir, Try checking thru the manual... regarding 3D settings... Im sure there is something there that you may have missed...
Enjoy the 42VT30 :)
Post by: DTNS on Nov 20, 2012 at 09:44 PM
since that is the case, I'm now considering either the Samsung 51E550 or the Panasonic 50VT30. ::)
Post by: cnn on Nov 20, 2012 at 09:50 PM
I inquired about the 42VT30 at one of SnS's threads. there's no mention of the 42VT30 in their new pricelists now. looks like their stocks of the 42VT30 have really dried up! :-\
since that is the case, I'm now considering either the Samsung 51E550 or the Panasonic 50VT30. ::)
:D looks like a very easy choice to make for current VT30 owners/users....
PQ difference between the 2 units is very glaring.... NIGHT and DAY difference... :D
Congrats and good luck :D
Post by: house_rn on Nov 20, 2012 at 10:48 PM
I inquired about the 42VT30 at one of SnS's threads. there's no mention of the 42VT30 in their new pricelists now. looks like their stocks of the 42VT30 have really dried up! :-\I was able to get the 42vt30 at Listening room. They have 3 pcs left then but that was last friday
since that is the case, I'm now considering either the Samsung 51E550 or the Panasonic 50VT30. ::)
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 20, 2012 at 11:10 PM
Dont compare with US prices dahil abnormally low ang pricing doon.
So paano magiging kasing mura ng VT50 ang VT30 unless i-clearance sale nila again in about a year when the 60 series is out, or, when Panasonic goes out. :(
Honestly, duda ako sa mga pinarating na VT30 dyan from the start dahil sa presyo, BUT THEN, Im gonna try to look for a good one and buy - kung may matitira. Wala namang mawawala to try.
Maybe the ST50 would be priced around the same...but that is NOT VT CLASS!!!!!!...and BTW, right now, a 50ST50 in Tokyo is about 154K Yen (or around 80K pesos) sa Amazon Japan right now..Its called GT5 in Japan. So malaking asa if aasang magiging 60K din agad ang 50ST50 in Manila..pero wala naman masama umasa. ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 21, 2012 at 12:32 AM
Yeah I'm sure initial prices of the ST50 and VT50 will be higher.im getting the same feeling that we wont get the same deal now with the VT30's
The reason I'm asking bro Jamy is because even they doubt that the next models will go for as low as the current ones.
bro allan is right, we are just lucky we have VT30 right now at very affordable prices :)
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 21, 2012 at 12:34 AM
Just for the record, mas mura pa yung presyo ng VT30 dyan compared to that of discount shops in Tokyo.di kaya dahil made in japan yung nasa Tokyo bro?
Post by: juanch on Nov 21, 2012 at 05:24 AM
How do I check the manufacturing date of the VT30? ^-^
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 21, 2012 at 05:32 AM
Haha! you guys are bad influences.at the back bro :)
How do I check the manufacturing date of the VT30? ^-^
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 21, 2012 at 08:03 AM
di kaya dahil made in japan yung nasa Tokyo bro?
Post by: fleadip on Nov 21, 2012 at 09:42 AM
My wife said she knows someone in panasonic who can give us a discount, but if the VT30 isn't in their line up why get from them? btw I'm choosing between a 42vt30 and a sammy ua 46 eh5000. Only considering the samsung because of the size. I don't think it can even play 3d.
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 21, 2012 at 09:46 AM
i saw this TV and was blown away. I almost bought one the other day, but I had to consult with the boss (my wife). I think I'll give this to her as a christmas present hehe. btw does panasonic philippines carry this line?dun ka na sa samsung bro, dibs na si bro allan sa lahat ng natitirang unit ;D
My wife said she knows someone in panasonic who can give us a discount, but if the VT30 isn't in their line up why get from them? btw I'm choosing between a 42vt30 and a sammy ua 46 eh5000. Only considering the samsung because of the size. I don't think it can even play 3d.
Thailand na lahat Bro since the latter half of the VT30's production life, (from around Aug 2011 to Feb 2012 I suppose) - that was when Panasonic announced their massive losses last year - which continues until now. So kung meron mang Made In Japan na VT3 in Japan, that would be in the Used Market.did not know that thanks sa info bro. OK lang ba sa mga japanese market na made in thailand yung gamit nila?
Post by: fleadip on Nov 21, 2012 at 09:56 AM
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 21, 2012 at 09:58 AM
isa lang naman sa kanya hehe dami pa nagbebenta. pagnaubusan naman sya ng 42 he has an excuse to get a 50 :Dhehehe .. i think he's getting the 50vt30
Post by: fleadip on Nov 21, 2012 at 10:00 AM
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 21, 2012 at 10:23 AM
Made In Thailand - not really OK to the Japanese, but they have no choice now because all models are made in Thailand. Anyhow, same same situation as Sony (except for the new 4K 84 inch Ultra HD - DAW - made to order nga this Ultra HD because walang stocks), and the after-sales support is of course still Japanese standard. Besides, those top of the line models from the major players (WHICH INCLUDE THE VT - hehehe) look absolutely awesome - so the actual manufacturing locations should not be a bother as long as strict quality control is maintained. R&D remains in Japan of course, especially sa panel tech and video engine. Sharp will have no choice but to stop producing TVs within their cutting-edge Tateyama Plant. Yen is too expensive and so is the cost of labor.
dun ka na sa samsung bro, dibs na si bro allan sa lahat ng natitirang unit ;D
did not know that thanks sa info bro. OK lang ba sa mga japanese market na made in thailand yung gamit nila?
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 21, 2012 at 10:25 AM
Nakukulitan na ako sa sarili ko na parang silang plaka... WALA NANG MAS MAGANDA SA VT kung Panasonic. Claro? Bakit napakamura compared sa flagship models ng Sony, Samsung among others? Yung ang di Claro. ;D
Sales Pitch: Current Ranking ng Plasma sa Kakaku.Com (Japan Market) - as of today
Sales Rank
1. 60GT50
2. 42ST50 (uy uy)
3. 50ST50 (uy uy)
4. 55ST50 (uy uy)
5. 50VT50
Interest Rank
1. 60GT50
2. 42ST50
3. 50VT50
4. 50ST50
5. 65VT50
Satisfaction Ranking
1. 65VT30 - hala
2. 50VT30 - hala hala (go figure)
3. 42ST30
4. 42GT30
^Nice!!!! hehe ako option lang if ever maubusan ng 42, but seriously how far off is the sammy uaeh5000 from the vt30? yung vt30 lang kasi nademo ko. sorry for getting off topic.
Post by: fleadip on Nov 21, 2012 at 10:47 AM
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 21, 2012 at 10:54 AM
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 21, 2012 at 11:09 AM
But if I were in Manila right now, I would just spend my entire alloted time checking out a VT30. Ive been very very very very happily using a V20 since 2010 and it still wows me - So personally, difficult to settle for a non-V at the moment - although to be fair, the ST50 is really quite an improvement over the ST30 - very very high cost-performance. Kung wala lang sanang associated asterisk yung VT30 sa Manila, my Wife wouldnt wait for me - but probably she wouldnt wait. hehehe
^wow that far ha? clarong claro hehe. now I'm thinking if I should still waste time asking for a demo for the eh5000
Post by: Allan_2180 on Nov 21, 2012 at 11:12 AM
Black-level, White-level and Color Temp changes in time.
"The VT30's increase from 0.0045 ftL to 0.0068 is enough to make "black"
on Panasonic's highest-end 2011 plasma measure just slightly worse than
on the company's step-down GT30 and ST30 models." -Dave Katzmaier CNET.
(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae331/Allan_2180/risingblck.jpg)
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57362126-221/update-long-term-plasma-tv-tests-enter-second-year/?ttag=fbw (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57362126-221/update-long-term-plasma-tv-tests-enter-second-year/?ttag=fbw)
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 21, 2012 at 11:15 AM
But I think the point is, green blobs or not, mataas ang Satisfaction Ranking ng VT30: implication - majority of the VT30s do not have the green smear, or, malabo ang mata ng Hapon - which was the biggest mistake by the Americans during WWII - hehehe.
bro allan kindly expound sa Satisfaction Ranking, bakit older models ang nandyan ???
Post by: m1g09 on Nov 21, 2012 at 01:12 PM
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 21, 2012 at 01:28 PM
Hehe this has really helped me alot. Another question. The green blob if I ever see it once i get my unit. Will they replace my unit? Or service it?
Post by: whatismyip on Nov 21, 2012 at 02:16 PM
Oo nga pala, for the sake of my Wife who might go solo, at which stores can you possibly (and will you be allowed to) test a VT30 unit before bringing out the wallet? Lahat ba ng stores ay pumapayag? Salamat po.
i bought my vt30 last tuesday on listening room megamall b. mababait naman ang mga tao pwede mo din itest ng itest yung unit mo pero make sure na alam mo panu itest kasi sila mismo di nila alam mga issues like green blob, etc. hahah tinest ko din yung unit na binili ko for green blob sa crab scene sa pirates mukhang wala naman akong nakitang green patches sa unit ko. alam ko 1 unit na lang ata meron sila or wala na. kasi sabi nila last unit na daw ung nabili ko.
i also checked ung intelligent frame creation ng panasonic which is the counterpart ng trumotion ng lg, and to my conclusion mas obvious ang motion interpolation effect ng lg led compared to our vt30, heheh pero passing rate na din ang kay vt30. heheh (not a videophile) :)
Post by: DonMiguel85 on Nov 21, 2012 at 02:42 PM
Post by: rhizom3 on Nov 21, 2012 at 02:53 PM
I thought it was cause by this 600hz sub field drive thingy and when I disabled it (intelligent frame creation), the motion went normal.
Post by: m1g09 on Nov 21, 2012 at 03:05 PM
Post by: whatismyip on Nov 21, 2012 at 03:09 PM
My VT30's Intelligent frame creation (which is set to High by default) is so obvious when I was watching an HD (720p) movie. Motion was so smooth na talagang naninibago yung mata ko. This is my first flat screen and was using a CRT. Kaya di ko rin masabi na mas obvious cya compared to other flats (e.g. edgelit led, direct led..etc)
I thought it was cause by this 600hz sub field drive thingy and when I disabled it (intelligent frame creation), the motion went normal.
ako kasi sir naging comparison ko yung lg led na 6200 series ba un.. and fast 5 movie material, on my observation lamang ang trumotion ng lg compared sa intelligent frame creation ng pana, pero still andun pa din yung motion interpolation effect ng vt30, if walang ka side by side comparison, kitang kita pa din yung ifc effect
Post by: whatismyip on Nov 21, 2012 at 03:11 PM
Mukang hot commodity talaga yang vt30. I was supposed to get from listening room, but if they don't have the 42 inch i'm going to have to look for another reliable place. If i play pirates 3 using a usb to look for defects does it have to be 1080p? Or any resolution would do? Also will the store replace the unit if ever it has the green blob, or will they replace it?
i think even an SD material can capture those green blobs, ang habol lang naman dun sa crab scene is yung white surroundings.. dun kitang kita pag my green na patch sa screen.
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 21, 2012 at 03:17 PM
IFC on the VT - kung baga sa halik, sa pisngi lang. ;D
Post by: DonMiguel85 on Nov 21, 2012 at 03:19 PM
Post by: rhizom3 on Nov 21, 2012 at 03:29 PM
http://www.avsforum.com/t/948496/avs-hd-709-blu-ray-mp4-calibration
I used the mp4 version when testing my unit.
Post by: whatismyip on Nov 21, 2012 at 03:31 PM
So puedeng tester yung movies like The Grey, Whiteout, Frozen Planet, among other movies with lots of white and gray?
IFC on the VT - kung baga sa halik, sa pisngi lang. ;D
hahah mas masarap sana kung french kiss. hahah pero pag wala side by side comparison, panalo na din ang ifc
Why not just use solid white or grey JPEG backgrounds on a USB stick?
pwede rin sir.. ganun naman talaga halos, im just carried into the hype of that crab scene.. :)
Post by: barrister on Nov 21, 2012 at 04:03 PM
Are VT30 units manufactured after a certain point more likely to be safe?
Walang data diyan sir. Chambahan lang. You really need to eyeball the unit yourself.
OK lang yon, marami na ring owners dito ang nagsabing green blob-free ang TV nila.
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 21, 2012 at 04:12 PM
Walang data diyan sir. Chambahan lang. You really need to eyeball the unit yourself.
OK lang yon, marami na ring owners dito ang nagsabing green blob-free ang TV nila.
Post by: barrister on Nov 21, 2012 at 04:46 PM
I was looking looking forward to your impressions of a VT30 or a ST50. I thought you would be willing to take a calculated risk. hehehe
I was willing to risk an ST50. Kaya lang, bagal ng Panny Phils. Maglalabas yata ng 50ST50 pag may 50ST60 na... >:(
At least ang ST50, current model. Bluetooth 3D + 2500 FFD. Besides, wala na talagang perfect screen uniformity sa mga bagong plasma.
Pero VT30? Last year pa yon --- ilang months na lang, 2 years old na, which is ancient in today's electronics world --- kayo na lang ang bumili, kuwentuhan n'yo na lang ako ... ;D .
Post by: _kamatis on Nov 21, 2012 at 06:10 PM
PS. Bitin ang 42" sana nag 50" na ako ^-^
Post by: rhizom3 on Nov 21, 2012 at 07:40 PM
I have a 42VT30. When I played 3D mkv movies, nag stutter cya. So I guess hindi cya compatible? I've already tried two 3D movies so I guess the internal media player is the culprit.
So now, I'm in a lookout for a best value NMT. Does it have to be a 3D capable NMT? Ano yung ma recommend nyo. (Sorry if this is an OT already).
Post by: DTNS on Nov 21, 2012 at 08:22 PM
Post by: cnn on Nov 21, 2012 at 08:55 PM
mine is green blob free as of this writing. pero according to AVSForum, na madedevelop sya after a while sa panel mismo kasi yung problem kaya di kaya ng firmware fix, kaya mas maganda wag nyo hanapin para di kayo aware na meron (sana wala). just enjoy the TV itself
PS. Bitin ang 42" sana nag 50" na ako ^-^
Same here... just enjoy the TV ....
50incher? hmmmm 39k for the 42... then 62k for the 50incher... medyo malayo ang difference... if the 50incher would be costing arounf 50k or maybe 48k... baka pwede but the price difference is very significant... Happy with my 42VT30 :)
Post by: m1g09 on Nov 21, 2012 at 09:07 PM
Post by: barrister on Nov 21, 2012 at 09:24 PM
mine is green blob free as of this writing. pero according to AVSForum, na madedevelop sya after a while sa panel mismo kasi yung problem kaya di kaya ng firmware fix, kaya mas maganda wag nyo hanapin para di kayo aware na meron (sana wala). just enjoy the TV itself
Wag mo nang intindihin yon sir. If you don't see it, OK na yon.
Wala nang perfectly uniform plasma screen ngayon. Kahit yung 2012 Panny plasmas such as the ST50, wala na raw green blob, pero may nabasa ako sa avsforums, meron pa rin --- very slight na lang, pero meron pa rin. Kahit yung Sammy 2012 na sinasabing perfectly uniform daw kuno, meron ding DSE yung akin --- also very slight, pero meron pa rin.
Hindi naman ako super OC sa DSE. Kaya lang, I know what a truly uniform plasma screen looks like. My first plasma was a 2006 Japan-made 480p Panasonic that did not have any DSE at all. May na-download na akong Evangelos break-in DVD noong panahong yon, kaya na-test ko sa white and color slides yon noong 2006.
PS. Bitin ang 42" sana nag 50" na ako ^-^
Hindi mo ba alam sir, ang TV ay dahan-dahang lumiliit habang tumatagal? :D
Kung nag 50" ka, sasabihin mo naman, sana nag 55" ka na lang. :(
Kaya wag mo na ring intindihin yon. Just enjoy your movies. Isipin mo na lang yon pag dumating na ang panahon na gusto mong mag-upgrade, maybe in 3 to 5 years.
Guys, sorry if this is a stupid question.
I have a 42VT30. When I played 3D mkv movies, nag stutter cya. So I guess hindi cya compatible? I've already tried two 3D movies so I guess the internal media player is the culprit.
So now, I'm in a lookout for a best value NMT. Does it have to be a 3D capable NMT? Ano yung ma recommend nyo. (Sorry if this is an OT already).
Normal lang na pumapalpak ang built-in media player. Kaya nga usong-uso ang external media players, kasi hindi maasahan ang mga built-in.
It doesn't have to be a 3D-capable NMT. The NMT will play SBS movies as is, and the TV will do the job of converting the SBS to 3D.
However, mas maganda pa rin ang 3D-capable NMT, para pati yung menus and other graphics ay readable. Kasi pag hindi, yung movie mo lang ang 3D. Lahat ng user interface ay hindi mo mababasa kasi magiging magkapatong na side-by-side images.
Post by: cnn on Nov 21, 2012 at 09:37 PM
Hindi mo ba alam sir, ang TV ay dahan-dahang lumiliit habang tumatgal? :D
Kung nag 50" ka, sasabihin mo naman, sana nag-55" ka na lang.
Kaya wag mo na ring intindihin yon. Just enjoy your movies. Isipin mo na lang yon pag dumating na ang panahon na gusto mong mag-upgrade, maybe in 3 to 5 years.
Tamag ka dyan sir.... just enjoy your HD movies... and upgrade to the next best model within 2~3 years...
OT --- Si CLONDAKIN will be getting the 50VT30 at SNS soon... Congrats sir !!!!
Post by: Verbl Kint on Nov 21, 2012 at 11:46 PM
However, mas maganda pa rin ang 3D-capable NMT, para pati yung menus and other graphics ay readable. Kasi pag hindi, yung movie mo lang ang 3D. Lahat ng user interface ay hindi mo mababasa kasi magiging magkapatong na side-by-side images.
I would recommend the Realtek 1186 series (Measy X6, eGreat R6S, eGreat R300 Pro); has full menu support for 2D BD ISO's and can play 3D BD-ISO's. And attractively priced 8k and below.
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 22, 2012 at 12:09 AM
Oo nga pala, for the sake of my Wife who might go solo, at which stores can you possibly (and will you be allowed to) test a VT30 unit before bringing out the wallet? Lahat ba ng stores ay pumapayag? Salamat po.dont worry bro allan all stores that sell VT30 are OK with testing. mas sanay lang ako ngayon kay SNS and Image (AVX) kasi mas accomodating ang owners and staff :)
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 22, 2012 at 08:18 AM
Im not sure about Full BD Nav on a Realtek 1186. They finally can do that?
Going back to 3D-Capable NMT, so bale for instance, even though a PCH-A200/A210 (or an older NMT) can play a Half-Half 3D encode, pass through the data to the VT30 and let the TV do the actual "3D Merging", nakakaduling bale yun subtitles and only the movie is 3D'd properly? I also remember reading in the NMT threads na mas maganda raw ang 3D rendering of Half-Half encodes if you let the NMT do the 3D Merging. And perhaps that's the reason why there are now separate SRT files specifically described as "3D Subtitle" - that's probably the logic of that.
Back to topic, I dont expect the built-in media player of the VT30 to be sufficient - the playback capabilities are pretty restricted so it seems and I wouldn't be surprised if higher bit encodes would stutter - so please explain to the Wife that a separate media player is highly recommended, then discuss the budget :)
50 inch against 42 inch. It's about 1.45x difference - that's pretty significant. So if we follow the ratio, di ba dapat the 50VT should be priced at 1.45x39K = 56.6K max? Kahit round-up to 1.5x, the figure is 58.5K :D ;D Kahon Mr. PDVD Sellers? ;D
I would recommend the Realtek 1186 series (Measy X6, eGreat R6S, eGreat R300 Pro); has full menu support for 2D BD ISO's and can play 3D BD-ISO's. And attractively priced 8k and below.
Post by: Stagea on Nov 22, 2012 at 08:50 AM
50 inch against 42 inch. It's about 1.45x difference - that's pretty significant. So if we follow the ratio, di ba dapat the 50VT should be priced at 1.45x39K = 56.6K max? Kahit round-up to 1.5x, the figure is 58.5K :D ;D Kahon Mr. PDVD Sellers? ;D
I think the price is set by supply/demand in this case. I don't think many VT buyers are really after the 42" size (not to mention there's pricing pressure from same-priced 46" and 50" screens).
Post by: barrister on Nov 22, 2012 at 09:13 AM
Going back to 3D-Capable NMT, so bale for instance, even though a PCH-A200/A210 (or an older NMT) can play a Half-Half 3D encode, pass through the data to the VT30 and let the TV do the actual "3D Merging", nakakaduling bale yun subtitles and only the movie is 3D'd properly?
Ganon na nga. Subtitles will also be split into left and right, then merged into one. So ang makikita mo ay magkapatong na left side and right side subtitles na hindi mo mababasa.
Actually, madali lang naman mag convert ng srt subtitles into SBS subtitles. Just convert srt using 3D Subtitler (freeware download), then mux into the container. I used a +3 depth setting, and it looked good. Zero means pantay sa screen level; negative means it's deeper than screen level; positive means it pops out to the viewer.
Kaya lang, hindi pala advisable ang SBS 3D susbtitles, kasi nakakahilo minsan. Pag may extreme pop-out image sa movie, at sabay natiyempo na may lumitaw na subtitles, nakakalito tignan, kasi mali ang depth ng subtitles in relation to the movie image --- mas malalim yung subtitles kaysa sa pop-out image. But as long as subtitles never go behind the 3D image, maganda naman.
I also remember reading in the NMT threads na mas maganda raw ang 3D rendering of Half-Half encodes if you let the NMT do the 3D Merging.
I don't understand how that works. If the NMT is doing the merging, then the TV thinks it's receiving a 2D signal. If you have an active-shutter system, how will the TV and the 3D glasses synchronize with each other?
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 22, 2012 at 09:57 AM
Also, I think a non-3D capable NMT is actually sending the Half-3D encode as 2D (hence even non 3DTVs can play and display the horizontally or vertically partitioned screen), thus the 3DTV should be manually switched to the appropriate 3D mode?
Yeah, in the end, the active-shutter VT30 itself must synchronize with the 3D glasses.
Sino kaya puedeng hiraman ng A300 or A400 or Measy X5 or Egreat R300 or R6S sa Pasko? hehe
I don't understand how that works. If the NMT is doing the merging, then the TV thinks it's receiving a 2D signal. If you have an active-shutter system, how will the TV and the 3D glasses synchronize with each other?
Post by: Neon Tetra on Nov 22, 2012 at 11:08 AM
Wag mo nang intindihin yon sir. If you don't see it, OK na yon.
Wala nang perfectly uniform plasma screen ngayon. Kahit yung 2012 Panny plasmas such as the ST50, wala na raw green blob, pero may nabasa ako sa avsforums, meron pa rin --- very slight na lang, pero meron pa rin. Kahit yung Sammy 2012 na sinasabing perfectly uniform daw kuno, meron ding DSE yung akin --- also very slight, pero meron pa rin.
Hindi naman ako super OC sa DSE. Kaya lang, I know what a truly uniform plasma screen looks like. My first plasma was a 2006 Japan-made 480p Panasonic that did not have any DSE at all. May na-download na akong Evangelos break-in DVD noong panahong yon, kaya na-test ko sa white and color slides yon noong 2006.
Cnsya na, but what is DSE?
Medyo OT, pero is the Sammy 51E8000 Plasma a good alternative to the Panny 50VT30? Kasi parang walang green/pink blob issue yung 51E8000.
Post by: barrister on Nov 22, 2012 at 11:38 AM
Cnsya na, but what is DSE?
Medyo OT, pero is the Sammy 51E8000 Plasma a good alternative to the Panny 50VT30? Kasi parang walang green/pink blob issue yung 51E8000.
DSE is "Dirty Screen Effect." Terminology lang yan ng mga forum posters sa US and UK. It's the catch-all term for all kinds of anomalies on a plasma screen such as green blobs, pink tint, purple snakes, vertical bands, screen door, etc., etc.
Yes, Sammy E8000 is an alternative. 2011's VT30 is very good, but picture quality can now be matched by the lower-model ST50 of 2012. Kung green blob/pink tint issue lang, wala ngang ganong issue sa E8000, pero hindi pa rin perfect yon. May slight DSE rin, pero non-issue na yon, kasi wala na talagang perfectly uniform plasma ngayon.
Pero sa build quality, mas magaling pa rin ang Panny sa Samsung. Sa Sammy, mas common ang plasma dead pixel; may issue pa na nagkakaroon ng crack ang panel glass.
Also, I think a non-3D capable NMT is actually sending the Half-3D encode as 2D (hence even non 3DTVs can play and display the horizontally or vertically partitioned screen), thus the 3DTV should be manually switched to the appropriate 3D mode?
Yes, that's right.
The non-3D media player just plays the video file as is. The player doesn't know that the video file is SBS 3D, so it just sends the video signal to the TV the way it would any other 2D video file.
On my Sammy TV, you have to press a button to switch to 3D, then you select the side-by-side mode.
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 22, 2012 at 12:44 PM
Pero sa build quality, mas magaling pa rin ang Panny sa Samsung. Sa Sammy, mas common ang plasma dead pixel; may issue pa na nagkakaroon ng crack ang panel glass.bro barrister yung crack sa glass panel, biglaan nalang nagkakaroon?
Yes, that's right.
The non-3D media player just plays the video file as is. The player doesn't know that the video file is SBS 3D, so it just sends the video signal to the TV the way it would any other 2D video file.
On my Sammy TV, you have to press a button to switch to 3D, then you select the side-by-side mode.
same with LG, detected nya as 2 separate video, then press 3d button :D
Post by: barrister on Nov 22, 2012 at 12:58 PM
bro barrister yung crack sa glass panel, biglaan nalang nagkakaroon?
Yes, they crack spontaneously. Hindi nauntog, hindi nabagsak. Basta mapapansin mo na lang, may crack na. Nababasa ko lang sa US forums.
Ganon kasi ang style ko sa research, naghahanap talaga ako ng defects. If you're familiar with my old posts, mapapansin mo, ako usually ang unang nagpo-post ng defects ... :D
Post by: rhizom3 on Nov 22, 2012 at 01:10 PM
Below 3K lang kasi ang budget for the NMT. I'm eyeing on Xtreamer Elvira NMT (sells around 2k). Is this a good all-rounder player? According to specs, it has HDMI 1.3a so I guess no 3D? May issue ba if I'm playing a 3D content on this box?
By the way, I'm seeing two screens on the 3D movie file when previewing it via VT30 built-in media player. So I guess this is half-half 3D like you mentioned? If I'm going to play this on the Elvira, what are the possible issues/compromise?
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 22, 2012 at 01:12 PM
wow weird ano yan dahil sa heat ??? .. (RE: Samsung)
Yes, they crack spontaneously. Hindi nauntog, hindi nabagsak. Basta mapapansion mo na lang, may crack na. Nababasa ko lang sa US forums.
Ganon kasi ang style ko sa research, naghahanap talaga ako ng defects. If you're familiar with my old posts, mapapansin mo, ako usually ang unang nagpo-post ng defects ... :D
i know re: una post ng defects.
i usually wait for yours, bro allans, bro carlos pieces first before purchasing a tv.
isang beses lang sumablay si carlo, but he did warn me about it. makulit lang talaga ako at binili magkaroon lang ng 3dtv :D
puro 42" yata ang defective vt30 ah!
i know someone here who bought a vt30 42" then upgraded to 50" vt30 after getting almost whole screen green tinge on all white screen :)
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 22, 2012 at 01:14 PM
By the way, I'm seeing two screens on the 3D movie file when previewing it via VT30 built-in media player. So I guess this is half-half 3D like you mentioned? If I'm going to play this on the Elvira, what are the possible issues/compromise?turn on the 3d, then play with the settings 3d to 2d or vise versa. sa previous LG 3d tv ko ganun lang gawa ko nag POP naman yung image :D
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 22, 2012 at 01:22 PM
The non-3D media player just plays the video file as is. The player doesn't know that the video file is SBS 3D, so it just sends the video signal to the TV the way it would any other 2D video file.
On my Sammy TV, you have to press a button to switch to 3D, then you select the side-by-side mode.
I am just reposting my experience playing 3D SBS using XBMC compared to Measy X5 (3D) in my Panasonic 50UT30:
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Before I was playing 3D SBS via XBMC and let my 3D HDTV do the conversion. The rendition wasn't as great compared to a 3D BD. When wearing my 3D glasses, the edges of the TV wasn't well defined parang dumodoble that I have to watch at the center of the screen. Another problem is that sometimes the video reverts back to 2D in that I have to reactivate the 3D button in my TV remote. Hassle nga and nakakatamad manood with all the nuisances.
This player renders SBS movies like 3D BDs. Syempre not the same quality but the rendition is the same. Parang BD vs MKV. The edges of your TV is well defined just like when playing 3D BDs. When you play the 3D movie, you have the option if the player will convert the movie to 3D or you can use the TV conversion. Didn't find any difference actually in the final converted PQ. The advantage of having the player convert the SBS is that after stopping the movie and when you view your files again, it automatically goes back to normal as compared to the TV doing the conversion in that when you stop the movie, naka 3D mode parin sya parang magnified ang words and then you have to convert it back to 2D or wait for the TV to detect na hindi na 3D ang material. Do I make sense? ;D ;D ;D
Before parang gusto ko ng burahin mga 3D SBS after watching 3D BDs but after playing them in this player. I'm definitely keeping them. ;D
With this player pwede ng 3D SBS. No need to store 3D BD ISOs that take up a lot of HDD space. ;)
Post by: cnn on Nov 22, 2012 at 01:24 PM
The screen does get a bit warm after 2~3 hours of use... :)
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 22, 2012 at 01:31 PM
Ganon kasi ang style ko sa research, naghahanap talaga ako ng defects. If you're familiar with my old posts, mapapansin mo, ako usually ang unang nagpo-post ng defects ... :D
Agree ako 100% dyan your honor! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 22, 2012 at 01:35 PM
Sino kaya puedeng hiraman ng A300 or A400 or Measy X5 or Egreat R300 or R6S sa Pasko? hehe
Bro Alan meron akong X5. Measy lang po at hindi BMW. Pwede natin testing pagkuha ko HDD. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: barrister on Nov 22, 2012 at 02:42 PM
^ wow... cracking glass screen on plasma units? due to heat? scary... i hope i never get this issue on my PANA 42VT30...
The screen does get a bit warm after 2~3 hours of use... :)
It's usually not the external glass, but the panel's internal glass.
It's more common on Samsung, but it can also happen on Panasonic or LG. Sample threads:
Sammy: http://forums.cnet.com/7723-13973_102-340997/internal-crack-on-my-tv-panel/ (http://forums.cnet.com/7723-13973_102-340997/internal-crack-on-my-tv-panel/)
Panny: http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1561140 (http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1561140)
LG: http://www.avforums.com/forums/plasma-tvs/1287006-screen-lg-plasma-cracks-itself.html (http://www.avforums.com/forums/plasma-tvs/1287006-screen-lg-plasma-cracks-itself.html)
Search hard enough and you'll come to the conclusion na lahat talaga ng flat panel may issue. It's just a matter of knowing what those issues are and deciding if you can live with them.
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 22, 2012 at 02:54 PM
If I recall correctly, you need the Tsip Of Stop's approval sa budget diba? (We all do anyways). So what to do, what to do if the good ones require 6K at least?
Ang isa pa sanang maganda kaso over the budget, yung 7K ni Kobebryant na PCH-A200. It's the fugliest looking NMT but it's freakin awesome in terms of capabilities.
Just to confirm, did you get the 3D glasses or not? If not, then no need to have 3D contents and 3D-capable NMT?
BTW, you defnitely must have an HDD if you are buying an NMT.
Barrister/Clondalkin (a.k.a Sir, Allan?),
Below 3K lang kasi ang budget for the NMT. I'm eyeing on Xtreamer Elvira NMT (sells around 2k). Is this a good all-rounder player? According to specs, it has HDMI 1.3a so I guess no 3D? May issue ba if I'm playing a 3D content on this box?
By the way, I'm seeing two screens on the 3D movie file when previewing it via VT30 built-in media player. So I guess this is half-half 3D like you mentioned? If I'm going to play this on the Elvira, what are the possible issues/compromise?
Post by: rhizom3 on Nov 22, 2012 at 04:14 PM
Haayy.. esep esep... =)
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 22, 2012 at 05:02 PM
So pa OT. Anyone interested in my 2-year old 42V20? ;) No green blobs and the greatest V before VT30. ;D
Post by: monpunx on Nov 22, 2012 at 08:09 PM
Brod, back read. I actually posted pictures of the 50VT30 and 55ST30 side by side. The panels have way much difference. See for yourself. Cheers!
was able to back read sir about the side by side comparison.
just wanted to ask, was those two the ST and VT had the same settings in terms of sharpness? parang ang layo kasi nung sharpness nung VT compare sa ST, and I would say na the blurring from your previous post was very evident dun sa ST model, tho I find my unit kahit 42" so far from watching full HD or atleast 720p movies don't notice that kind of blurring. tho I saw in listening room last time in megamall, when they are showing the ST30 and i'm not sure if it's an X50 they have compared, the blacks, seems black dun sa isa compare sa ST, this was a night shot video of a church and the sky from the st looked bluish compare to the other, tho I'm still not convinced since the settings were not shown naman.
but I thank you guys for such information you bring to this community. atleast a newbie like me would learn a lot:D
Post by: Allan_2180 on Nov 23, 2012 at 12:10 AM
magkakaiba n lng daw cla s color temp at white level.
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57362126-221/update-long-term-plasma-tv-tests-enter-second-year/?ttag=fbw (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57362126-221/update-long-term-plasma-tv-tests-enter-second-year/?ttag=fbw)
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 23, 2012 at 12:33 AM
Accdg s cnet, black level of vt30 will almost be the same with st30 after 2000hrs of use(abt a year.),ilang units kaya ang na-test nila?
magkakaiba n lng daw cla s color temp at white level.
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57362126-221/update-long-term-plasma-tv-tests-enter-second-year/?ttag=fbw (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57362126-221/update-long-term-plasma-tv-tests-enter-second-year/?ttag=fbw)
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 23, 2012 at 01:54 AM
Could you please inform the brand, the seller, the price and some feedback. Thank you.
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 23, 2012 at 02:19 AM
Has anyone here bought 3rd party (cheaper) but good quality extra 3D glasses for their VT30 (or any 30 series Panasonic plasma).after the pdvd xmas eb i can hook up with nerveblocker. hiramin ko 3d glasses nya :)
Could you please inform the brand, the seller, the price and some feedback. Thank you.
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 23, 2012 at 08:43 AM
BTW, how do you watch 3D Jamy?
Kailan nga pala ang Xmas party ng PDVD?
after the pdvd xmas eb i can hook up with nerveblocker. hiramin ko 3d glasses nya :)
Post by: emvi_2000 on Nov 23, 2012 at 12:40 PM
Post by: mak_mak on Nov 23, 2012 at 12:47 PM
during 3d viewing ( THX mode at Game mode), the screen and images seems to flicker, which is not happening sa dynamic,normal and cinema mode... :o bakit po kaya ganun?
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 23, 2012 at 12:55 PM
Oh yeah, I remember Nerveblocker got many extra 3D glasses. Yun ang unang tanong ni Wife. Whenever her siblings and their families visit the house, nandun lahat ang tatays and kids sa HT. So paano raw yon? Pila-pila ng 2 people at a time only - parang joyride sa amusement park? ;D
BTW, how do you watch 3D Jamy?
Kailan nga pala ang Xmas party ng PDVD?after the pdvd xmas eb i can hook up with nerveblocker. hiramin ko 3d glasses nya :)xmas fartee is tomorrow bro ;D
i dont watch 3d bro ;D
Post by: delphinos2005 on Nov 23, 2012 at 09:35 PM
Bluetooth capable na po ba ang VT30?
Can I use my LG Tone Bluetooth Headset with it?
http://www.amazon.com/LG-Wireless-Bluetooth-Stereo-Headset/dp/B0052YFYFK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1353677671&sr=8-1&keywords=lg+bluetooth+headset
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 24, 2012 at 10:38 AM
Others may take this as a mere anecdote, but as far as I am concerned, you can actually find a good VT30 out there, out of the box. If our unit develops DSE later, who knows? But right now, Im definitely 60K poorer but at least twice that much happier. Freakin awesome looking image quality!!! -my Wife said. Keeps on sending me photos via iMessage since last night. Kahit buksan nya lahat ng ilaw sa bedroom, ang liwanag ng image.
Dont waste this chance if the budget permits. :)
The VT is like a beautiful baby. They are cutest at 1-5 years old. ;D
Now I really have to find someone who would rent me a Full 3DBD player during the Xmas Holidays - Im open to an equitable deal. ;D
Post by: revskie on Nov 24, 2012 at 10:53 AM
Post by: cnn on Nov 25, 2012 at 01:57 AM
Congrats on the new 50VT30 !!!!
Sana I get some extra cash to jump for the upgrade before christmas :)...
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 25, 2012 at 08:52 AM
I think you mentioned in a previous post that your room is rather small, but here in Tokyo, Im barely 2 meters away from a 50V2. ;) OVER-sizing is not a problem for the VT - just make sure the elevation of the TV is comfortable to your neck from where you normally sit. Mas mahirap na problem if you realize after these limited stocks are gone that the 42 is rather small pala. ;D
Sana I get some extra cash to jump for the upgrade before christmas :)...
Post by: Stagea on Nov 25, 2012 at 09:06 AM
OVER-sizing is not a problem for the VT - just make sure the elevation of the TV is comfortable to your neck from where you normally sit.
I agree. 50"-55" is okay even at 1m away, in my experience. It fills your field of view better.
It might be tiring at first when your eyes still try to follow moving objects across the screen, but you'd likely get used to it after a while.
Post by: cnn on Nov 25, 2012 at 09:18 AM
You should give this an earnest thought.
I think you mentioned in a previous post that your room is rather small, but here in Tokyo, Im barely 2 meters away from a 50V2. ;) OVER-sizing is not a problem for the VT - just make sure the elevation of the TV is comfortable to your neck from where you normally sit. Mas mahirap na problem if you realize after these limited stocks are gone that the 42 is rather small pala. ;D
Tama ka dyan sir...
Mine is just wishful thinking lang naman... Just in case some unexpected/expected excess cash comes in during the holidays :) and if the 50" is still available, I wouldn't mind upgrading, funds permitting of course :)
But I agree with you on the issue... Bigger is Better (in TV/Plasma units)
Cheers :D
Post by: acepogs on Nov 25, 2012 at 01:58 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 25, 2012 at 03:50 PM
SnS has delivered and set a 50VT30 at home. SnS staff led by Jonjon were very patient and attentive as my Wife did her thing at the store - I dont know what exactly she did on the VT30 but lots of white she said - that she got tired of looking at white scenes and reverted to black Batman before sealing the deal. ;D Special thanks indeed to SnS and Vic for the pleasant buying experience.CONGRATS BRO ALLAN!! :D
Others may take this as a mere anecdote, but as far as I am concerned, you can actually find a good VT30 out there, out of the box. If our unit develops DSE later, who knows? But right now, Im definitely 60K poorer but at least twice that much happier. Freakin awesome looking image quality!!! -my Wife said. Keeps on sending me photos via iMessage since last night. Kahit buksan nya lahat ng ilaw sa bedroom, ang liwanag ng image.
Dont waste this chance if the budget permits. :)
The VT is like a beautiful baby. They are cutest at 1-5 years old. ;D
Now I really have to find someone who would rent me a Full 3DBD player during the Xmas Holidays - Im open to an equitable deal. ;D
gusto mo dalhin ko xbox ko sa inyo... or wag na tayo maghanap ng greenblob..hahaha
Post by: DTNS on Nov 25, 2012 at 05:24 PM
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 26, 2012 at 10:30 AM
Is it true that the supplied 3D glasses can only be charged via the TV's USB ports? That's very inconvenient - sucks - oh well. Wife's first 3D tester was Spiderman Half-SBS. Ok naman daw, basta within the effective range ng IR signal (3.2m or around 11ft) - otherwise, it automatically switches to 2D. Mas maganda sana kung Bluetooth para around 10m ang range, but thats for 2012 models - pero ang liit na ng 50 inches at 10m. ;D - so puede na rin na 3 to 4m lang ang range ng 3D basta walang crosstalk. ;D
gusto mo dalhin ko xbox ko sa inyo... or wag na tayo maghanap ng greenblob..hahaha
Post by: whatismyip on Nov 26, 2012 at 12:20 PM
Post by: revskie on Nov 26, 2012 at 12:21 PM
Post by: rochie on Nov 26, 2012 at 12:26 PM
mga ka vt30, have you tried using youtube on viera connect? sakin wala sound ang mga videos and may nakalagay na caption na may problem sa software, do you guys experience this also?youtube is ok with my unit,may audio sya,although meron nakalagay na notice na some videos might not have sound pero so far lahat naman ng pinapanood ko meron audio,try updating the firmware or check if there's an update to your firmware
Post by: whatismyip on Nov 26, 2012 at 01:33 PM
You tube is working OK with mine. Na update mo na ba firmware mo?
youtube is ok with my unit,may audio sya,although meron nakalagay na notice na some videos might not have sound pero so far lahat naman ng pinapanood ko meron audio,try updating the firmware or check if there's an update to your firmware
thanks for the response sir kakaupdate ko lang kahapon i tried playing some fliptop videos on youtube kaso walang sound na lumabas. also the gangnam style mtv on youtube wala din.. hahah i am trying to impress my nanay kaso wala sound hahah. btw anu po ba latest firmware ng vt30 natin? thanks
Post by: rochie on Nov 26, 2012 at 03:03 PM
thanks for the response sir kakaupdate ko lang kahapon i tried playing some fliptop videos on youtube kaso walang sound na lumabas. also the gangnam style mtv on youtube wala din.. hahah i am trying to impress my nanay kaso wala sound hahah. btw anu po ba latest firmware ng vt30 natin? thanks
Software version : 2117-10000
Post by: whatismyip on Nov 26, 2012 at 03:53 PM
Software version : 2117-10000
ok sir i'll check my unit pagkauwi ko galing office. thanks
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 26, 2012 at 04:04 PM
I personally wouldnt bother basta pumasa na sa Wife before she paid. Kung lalabas later, then warranty issue.ako man sa sinehan, pag 3d ang pinanonood at hindi sa imax moa. dun ako 3 rows - 6 rows away from the screen. anything farther is bad na! :)
Is it true that the supplied 3D glasses can only be charged via the TV's USB ports? That's very inconvenient - sucks - oh well. Wife's first 3D tester was Spiderman Half-SBS. Ok naman daw, basta within the effective range ng IR signal (3.2m or around 11ft) - otherwise, it automatically switches to 2D. Mas maganda sana kung Bluetooth para around 10m ang range, but thats for 2012 models - pero ang liit na ng 50 inches at 10m. ;D - so puede na rin na 3 to 4m lang ang range ng 3D basta walang crosstalk. ;D
Post by: mak_mak on Nov 26, 2012 at 10:33 PM
mga ka vt30, have you tried using youtube on viera connect? sakin wala sound ang mga videos and may nakalagay na caption na may problem sa software, do you guys experience this also?
mine is singing Loud and Clear sir,.. ;)
Post by: whatismyip on Nov 27, 2012 at 08:58 AM
mine is singing Loud and Clear sir,.. ;)
very nice sir.. i tried to test it last night kaso nawalan naman ako internet connection. hahah minalas ata. hope mamayang gabi meron na para matest ko ulit
Post by: whatismyip on Nov 28, 2012 at 12:39 PM
just want to ask meron ba dito naka professional mode? and can you share your settings? including white balance heheh thanks
Post by: Neon Tetra on Nov 30, 2012 at 05:55 PM
Ok na sana yung Panasonic VT30, pero may issue pala (yung green and pink blobs), kahit yung VT50 may issue pa rin (yung banding).
On the other hand, yung Samsung E550 (yung buzzing and screen shut-off issues) and E8000 (yung spontaneous spider cracks) may mga issues din.
Yung LED TVs may mga issues din, like flash-lighting effect, lack of screen uniformity, and side bleeding/clouding.
Yung konting issues naman, ay ang mamahal ng prices, like the Sony HX855 and Sony HX950.
Hayz.......
Post by: house_rn on Nov 30, 2012 at 11:09 PM
Post by: cnn on Nov 30, 2012 at 11:45 PM
Had to return my 42vt30 bec of the green blob issue. I got a full refund now im looking at just buying another tosh 46pb20.
Sorry to hear this. Where did you get your VT30 from?
Post by: Macmon on Dec 01, 2012 at 09:50 AM
Parang ang hirap maghanap ng ok na TV, kasi lahat may mga issues.Hirap talaga sir... especially when you will shell out a good amount of money or investing on it and then getting frustrated with its quality. The customer support really becomes a factor.
Ok na sana yung Panasonic VT30, pero may issue pala (yung green and pink blobs), kahit yung VT50 may issue pa rin (yung banding).
On the other hand, yung Samsung E550 (yung buzzing and screen shut-off issues) and E8000 (yung spontaneous spider cracks) may mga issues din.
Yung LED TVs may mga issues din, like flash-lighting effect, lack of screen uniformity, and side bleeding/clouding.
Yung konting issues naman, ay ang mamahal ng prices, like the Sony HX855 and Sony HX950.
Hayz.......
Post by: mak_mak on Dec 01, 2012 at 11:23 PM
Had to return my 42vt30 bec of the green blob issue. I got a full refund now im looking at just buying another tosh 46pb20.
no way! 1 down....saan nyo po nakuha unit nyo sir?
Post by: house_rn on Dec 02, 2012 at 07:27 AM
Pdvd member its hard to unsee it.
Post by: Clondalkin on Dec 02, 2012 at 07:42 AM
If it was delivered to your house untested, did you notice the green blob immediately upon first usage?
Very sorry to hear about your VT30 but at least you were able to return without hassles. Did you think about
replacing with another VT30 at all?
Regards
^ just look for the store that still have 1pc of 42vt30 left. Most likely they will resell it again. Have nothing against the store btw. Tolerable nmn sana kaso once you see it yun na lang ng yun hahanapin at makikita mo and this is coming fr a guy that has a problem determining colors. Tama sabi nung isang
Pdvd member its hard to unsee it.
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Dec 02, 2012 at 08:19 AM
Can I hear your comments on this unit,..
The 65vt50,...
Post by: Clondalkin on Dec 02, 2012 at 08:42 AM
1. You prefer an LED. Hehee
2. Pricing in the US is the one of the main reasons why Japanese CE makers are losing billions. It's just outrageous to be selling at prices way way below the levels where the makers are headquartered.
http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-VIERA-TC-P65VT50-65-Inch-Plasma/dp/B00752VLSG/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1354407145&sr=8-4&keywords=60vt50
Can I hear your comments on this unit,..
The 65vt50,...
Post by: house_rn on Dec 02, 2012 at 10:45 AM
Just to ask. Did you test the VT30 sa store before you purchased, or sa bahay mo nalang binuksan?
If it was delivered to your house untested, did you notice the green blob immediately upon first usage?
Very sorry to hear about your VT30 but at least you were able to return without hassles. Did you think about
replacing with another VT30 at all?
Regards
I did test it at the store before buying it. I also used the same content as posted here. Yung crab scene and patterns. During that time wala naman ako nakita issue so I took it home thinking its worth the risk. The thing with this green blob issue it doesnt show on all the materials I played. May certain parts lang or certain materials lang siya lumalabas or mas nakikita. Like I said earlier mahina ako sa colors but when my wife noticed it dun ko talaga siya napuna. There's nothing to replace wala na sila stock ng 42" hindi kaya ng budget ko yung 50". Halos sabay ko binili yung toshiba 46PB20 and VT30 and so far ok na ko sa tosh kaya yun na lang binili ko ulit. But the VT30 wala katulad the bezel the craftmanship its almos perfect sayang talaga. I'll be waiting for that VT50 sana competitive pa din price kahit 50" ipon ipon na!
Post by: barrister on Dec 02, 2012 at 11:55 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-VIERA-TC-P65VT50-65-Inch-Plasma/dp/B00752VLSG/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1354407145&sr=8-4&keywords=60vt50 (http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-VIERA-TC-P65VT50-65-Inch-Plasma/dp/B00752VLSG/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1354407145&sr=8-4&keywords=60vt50)
Can I hear your comments on this unit,..
The 65vt50,...
Comment ko: It's the world's best TV for 2012 ---
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57439424-221/panasonic-vt50-wins-value-electronics-2012-tv-picture-quality-shootout/ (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57439424-221/panasonic-vt50-wins-value-electronics-2012-tv-picture-quality-shootout/)
Known issue: Vertical stripes caused by the internal filter:
http://www.avforums.com/forums/plasma-tvs/1638736-panasonic-2012-vertical-band-issues-vbi-mvbi.html (http://www.avforums.com/forums/plasma-tvs/1638736-panasonic-2012-vertical-band-issues-vbi-mvbi.html)
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OT: Tama ba yung signature mo sir, Yamaha RX-V657 pa rin?
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Dec 03, 2012 at 09:46 AM
Comments:
1. You prefer an LED. Hehee
2. Pricing in the US is the one of the main reasons why Japanese CE makers are losing billions. It's just outrageous to be selling at prices way way below the levels where the makers are headquartered.
Hahaha,.. Ibibigay ko rin po sa anak ko ito, and I'll get a plasma again for myself,
just researching kung maganda ang quality nitong unit na ito,....
Regards sir,...
Comment ko: It's the world's best TV for 2012 ---
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57439424-221/panasonic-vt50-wins-value-electronics-2012-tv-picture-quality-shootout/ (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57439424-221/panasonic-vt50-wins-value-electronics-2012-tv-picture-quality-shootout/)
Known issue: Vertical stripes caused by the internal filter:
http://www.avforums.com/forums/plasma-tvs/1638736-panasonic-2012-vertical-band-issues-vbi-mvbi.html (http://www.avforums.com/forums/plasma-tvs/1638736-panasonic-2012-vertical-band-issues-vbi-mvbi.html)
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OT: Tama ba yung signature mo sir, Yamaha RX-V657 pa rin?
Thank you for the feedback sir,...
Saw this unit kasi sa Best Buy, and medyo interesado ako sa kanya,..
pang-living room sir,... thanks again,..
And yes, the receiver I bought from you is still alive and well back there,
ginagamit pa ng mga anak ko at kapatid,..
Haven't started my setup here yet, but I am leaning on the Yamaha RX-A3020 or the Denon AVR-4311...
Regards as well sir,...
Post by: Clondalkin on Dec 03, 2012 at 10:08 AM
But cmon my friend, you really really like Full Array LED based on your most recent TV purchase. You chose an LED over the VT30 so the VT50 is gonna be the same story. Taksil! Hahaha.
Since mura naman sa US, why not wait for the 4313 or consider the latest top-class models from Onkyo (5xxx) and Yamaha?
Regards!
Hahaha,.. Ibibigay ko rin po sa anak ko ito, and I'll get a plasma again for myself,
just researching kung maganda ang quality nitong unit na ito,....
Regards sir,...
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Dec 03, 2012 at 10:10 AM
Taksil! Hahaha.
Regards!
Dito ako natawa ng todo,... HAHAHAHA,...!
Still have plenty of time to wait for the receiver, thanks for the tip sir,....
Post by: Clondalkin on Dec 03, 2012 at 10:16 AM
Get the house first and the rest should be easy to set-up. Hirap mag-set-up ng HT paulit ulit especially kung malalaki yung devices and totally abala sa panonood and quality time - unless you truly enjoy endless re-setting-up like some members here do. hehehe
Dito ako natawa ng todo,... HAHAHAHA,...!
Still have plenty of time to wait for the receiver, thanks for the tip sir,....
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 03, 2012 at 01:34 PM
Get the house first and the rest should be easy to set-up. Hirap mag-set-up ng HT paulit ulit especially kung malalaki yung devices and totally abala sa panonood and quality time - unless you truly enjoy endless re-setting-up like some members here do. heheheguilty ako dito :P
but finally starting to enjoy my HT .. for now :D
Post by: cnn on Dec 06, 2012 at 10:26 PM
Was able to watch Casino Royale 007 in Blu Ray today... Superb IQ... Iba talaga ang PANA "Dynamic" colors
VT30 Rocks!!!
(http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=I.4818511723365201&pid=15.1&W=107&H=160)
(http://www.movie-infos.net/data/media/396/James_Bond_Casino_Royale_15.jpg)
Post by: Libresse on Dec 07, 2012 at 04:34 PM
Is it ok to play console games on the 42vt30 for long periods of time (5 hours at least?)
Ano suggest nyo max hours of playing before resting the tv? 1 hour of rest is ok na ba?
Thanks All
Post by: garter26 on Dec 08, 2012 at 02:00 AM
LG 42LM5800
LG 42LM6200
Pana 42ST30
Pana 42VT30
I don't need smart features.
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 08, 2012 at 07:43 AM
How much tong TV na to? (cash price) and sang store mabibili? Anu pinaka bang for the buck sa mga units na to,
LG 42LM5800
LG 42LM6200
Pana 42ST30
Pana 42VT30
I don't need smart features.
Post by: cnn on Dec 08, 2012 at 10:33 AM
Post by: jduval on Dec 10, 2012 at 08:47 PM
kababalik lang from diskless setups sa cebu
may time mangalikot ng vt30 ^_^
was able to control our vt30 using any android phone or tablet
ang saya hahaha
just a question, anong extension ang pwede magplay ng subtitles?
Post by: cnn on Dec 11, 2012 at 12:52 AM
hi allvia android and tablet app? Talaga? Share naman which app did you use... Thanks
kababalik lang from diskless setups sa cebu
may time mangalikot ng vt30 ^_^
was able to control our vt30 using any android phone or tablet
ang saya hahaha
just a question, anong extension ang pwede magplay ng subtitles?
Post by: garter26 on Dec 11, 2012 at 03:17 AM
And if you can recommend other brand/models na bang for the buck din and san mabibili yung mura sana. Max budget would be 41k.
TY
Post by: jduval on Dec 11, 2012 at 08:46 AM
yes sir
free download lang po sya sa google play
search lang panasonic viera
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.panasonic.pavc.viera.nrc&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5wYW5hc29uaWMucGF2Yy52aWVyYS5ucmMiXQ..
(https://lh4.ggpht.com/165NJJVBXUajFqWlmmPZ60wQgGzFs8bQznhg0Dfh7WDq5DRejSQI7kszXiE6YfMTlDY)
(https://lh6.ggpht.com/jENhS4IzHepM2zi54ooAgQqgC4lzkqNaNDJlGeLyqLeu_YbpySICHcnR-hS1S1udz-Zd)
Post by: cnn on Dec 11, 2012 at 10:17 PM
@cnn
yes sir
free download lang po sya sa google play
search lang panasonic viera
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.panasonic.pavc.viera.nrc&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5wYW5hc29uaWMucGF2Yy52aWVyYS5ucmMiXQ..
(https://lh4.ggpht.com/165NJJVBXUajFqWlmmPZ60wQgGzFs8bQznhg0Dfh7WDq5DRejSQI7kszXiE6YfMTlDY)
(https://lh6.ggpht.com/jENhS4IzHepM2zi54ooAgQqgC4lzkqNaNDJlGeLyqLeu_YbpySICHcnR-hS1S1udz-Zd)
Cool... Ma subukan nga...
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 12, 2012 at 01:54 AM
Post by: revskie on Dec 12, 2012 at 06:53 AM
Accessing my Netfilx and Hulu Plus Account. Unlimited Movies Galore!
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(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll200/revskie/IMG_0056.jpg)
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll200/revskie/IMG_0057.jpg)
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll200/revskie/IMG_0058.jpg)
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll200/revskie/IMG_0059.jpg)
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll200/revskie/IMG_0060.jpg)
Using Skype.
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll200/revskie/IMG_0062.jpg)
Cheers!
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 12, 2012 at 07:09 AM
may greenblob ba while browsing .. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: revskie on Dec 12, 2012 at 07:47 AM
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 12, 2012 at 07:53 AM
Di ko alam pre. Di ko na hinahanap. Hehehehe..... Sakto na tong tv na ito. :)ako naman lagi ko nasasalang yung castlevania at derecho dun sa snow titan scene ... ;D
Post by: zipfx on Dec 12, 2012 at 02:10 PM
Post by: Clondalkin on Dec 12, 2012 at 05:29 PM
To answer your question about kamusta . Mabuting-mabuti.
mga sir inquiry lang, musta yung 50VT30 ninyo mas iwas ba sa DSE compare sa 42VT30? already deposited for 50VT30 pero ngdadalawang isip ako kung tutuloy ko pa baka kasi matiempuhan ko yung may green blob and pinky tint sayang naman laking investment for a TV. makikita ko ba pag break in slides yung DSE ala kasi ko nung crab scene sa pirates of the carribean. thank you
Post by: mbtorn on Dec 12, 2012 at 06:35 PM
mga sir inquiry lang, musta yung 50VT30 ninyo mas iwas ba sa DSE compare sa 42VT30? already deposited for 50VT30 pero ngdadalawang isip ako kung tutuloy ko pa baka kasi matiempuhan ko yung may green blob and pinky tint sayang naman laking investment for a TV. makikita ko ba pag break in slides yung DSE ala kasi ko nung crab scene sa pirates of the carribean. thank you
have a 50vt30, don't have the green blob nor pinky tint . And don't look for something you don't want to see, just enjoy your pana. :)
Post by: cnn on Dec 13, 2012 at 12:16 AM
Simply one great plasma unit...
Post by: zipfx on Dec 13, 2012 at 03:30 AM
Post by: jeremie on Dec 17, 2012 at 05:11 PM
have a 50vt30, don't have the green blob nor pinky tint . And don't look for something you don't want to see, just enjoy your pana. :)
agree!
Post by: whatismyip on Dec 18, 2012 at 02:11 PM
thank you for the replies mga boss tuloy ko na kung ganun, sana wala probs mapunta sa akin hehehe
problem is kung may mahahanapan ka pang stock nito. goodluck sa vt30 hunt! merry christmas
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 18, 2012 at 09:57 PM
Post by: cnn on Dec 19, 2012 at 12:06 AM
Post by: emvi_2000 on Dec 19, 2012 at 12:19 AM
Post by: zipfx on Dec 22, 2012 at 05:30 PM
Post by: whatismyip on Dec 22, 2012 at 09:48 PM
Got mine 2 days ago, so far so good wala ko makitang berde. July 2011 yung date sa likod
san ka umiscore ng 42vt30 sir? for reference lang sa mga gusto pang bumili.. heheh
Post by: zipfx on Dec 22, 2012 at 11:19 PM
san ka umiscore ng 42vt30 sir? for reference lang sa mga gusto pang bumili.. heheh
sir 50VT30 yung nakuha ko kay sir vic :)
Post by: Clondalkin on Dec 23, 2012 at 11:28 AM
Last night I finally tried my wife's 50VT30 and Im totally and absolutely floored! for 60K - what a beautiful plasma!!!
Post by: emvi_2000 on Dec 23, 2012 at 12:27 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 23, 2012 at 01:04 PM
Two nights ago I was watching at an amazing 50V2welcome back to manila bro, i was texting your wife yesterday kaso cannot be reach na yung number. pasyalan sana kita dyan :)
Last night I finally tried my wife's 50VT30 and Im totally and absolutely floored! for 60K - what a beautiful plasma!!!
Post by: zipfx on Dec 23, 2012 at 05:54 PM
Post by: cnn on Dec 24, 2012 at 12:08 AM
Just wondering why july 2011 pa yung manufactured date ng vt ko then noticed on the box may nakadikit na maliit na papel "fullypaid" sa gilid di naman ako ng cash so i was thingking di kaya returned item na to?
and the mystery begins :D
Dont worry... If you got it from SNS you have good warranty assurance if something goes wrong with your VT30 :D
Post by: cnn on Dec 24, 2012 at 12:13 AM
Saw BRAVE, THE LORAX, TINKERBELLE (all 1080P @ 7.5+gig MKV files & Dynamic Mode)
My kids were simply amazed at the very good and sharp image quality by the 42VT30...
All I need to worry is the SNACKs and the Drinks for the next movie marathon in the next few days :D
Super happy with the PANA 42VT30 :D
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 24, 2012 at 09:39 AM
Just had a movie marathon with my Kids at home with the 42VT30...enjoy bro ;D
Saw BRAVE, THE LORAX, TINKERBELLE (all 1080P @ 7.5+gig MKV files & Dynamic Mode)
My kids were simply amazed at the very good and sharp image quality by the 42VT30...
All I need to worry is the SNACKs and the Drinks for the next movie marathon in the next few days :D
Super happy with the PANA 42VT30 :D
Post by: cnn on Dec 24, 2012 at 10:17 AM
Post by: zipfx on Dec 24, 2012 at 04:14 PM
I know sir with SnS it woudnt be a problem. Curious mind or paranoid? Hahaha anyway hands down talaga sa PQ 720p lang mga movies ko pero solve na... What more pag 1080p pa?! Yun lang ala ko collection ng mga 1080p movies hehehe sino kaya kind enough to share thier precious collections am willing to trade :D
and the mystery begins :D
Dont worry... If you got it from SNS you have good warranty assurance if something goes wrong with your VT30 :D
Post by: Clondalkin on Dec 24, 2012 at 06:08 PM
Besides will any store deliver an item if that is not fullypaid yet? ;D Doesnt have to be cash because many people use credit card. Ok you may interpret that small piece of paper with doubt but anyway, if meron problem yung unit, just return it immediately.
The VT30 was in production between around Mar 2011 and Feb 2012 so there is no mystery in your unit. In fact, the closer it was to Mar 2011, the higher the chance that the panel alone was produced in Osaka Japan. ;). Mine is Nov 2011 and definitely Southeast Asian. :)
Happy? I am freakin happy with my Wife's 50VT30!!! ;D
Post by: zipfx on Dec 24, 2012 at 07:00 PM
Be objective. "Fullypaid" could simply be labeled to indicate that item was sold to YOU and to be delivered.
Besides will any store deliver an item if that is not fullypaid yet? ;D Doesnt have to be cash because many people use credit card. Ok you may interpret that small piece of paper with doubt but anyway, if meron problem yung unit, just return it immediately.
The VT30 was in production between around Mar 2011 and Feb 2012 so there is no mystery in your unit. In fact, the closer it was to Mar 2011, the higher the chance that the panel alone was produced in Osaka Japan. ;). Mine is Nov 2011 and definitely Southeast Asian. :)
Happy? I am freakin happy with my Wife's 50VT30!!! ;D
yes maybe, nung nag deposit ako 3 weeks ago nilagay para di na mabenta sa iba. thank you mga boss sa mga feedback kahit newbie lang ako dito your willing to help. :) merry christmas sa lahat pala! movie marathon na to mamaya after work! hehehe
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 03, 2013 at 06:28 PM
Post by: cnn on Jan 03, 2013 at 09:35 PM
Guys what have you done with the plastic ears on both sides of the VT30? Hehe. What are those for anyways? Walang ganon sa V20. Regards
I guess they are just protective spacers for the metal bezel and the main panel... Its in the manual... i just removed them and kept them along with the other accessories and receipt...
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 04, 2013 at 06:33 AM
parang ang hirap
Post by: rhizom3 on Jan 04, 2013 at 09:29 AM
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 04, 2013 at 09:42 AM
Tinggal ko sila by removing the blue tape. Nakadikit pa ba sa inyo?eto bro susubukan ko ;D
Post by: rhizom3 on Jan 04, 2013 at 09:46 AM
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 04, 2013 at 09:53 AM
So it has been there ever since? I did not remove the sticker at the upper left corner of the TV though. It looks sexy kasi. :)yep and im still eyeballing it while typing ;D . which sticker on the top left corner, viera specs ba ito?
Post by: rhizom3 on Jan 04, 2013 at 10:48 AM
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 04, 2013 at 11:05 AM
Post by: enzolm on Jan 15, 2013 at 11:33 AM
I bought a 50vt30 last December and am very happy with it. Will the USB media player of the VT30 series play stored movies on a USB HD? Has anyone ever tried it? I wondering if I could avoid having to buy an external media player. i would appreciate hearing from other owners.
Thanks a lot.
Post by: _kamatis on Jan 15, 2013 at 02:48 PM
note po even DTS audio format po gagana sya.
Post by: enzolm on Jan 15, 2013 at 04:34 PM
Post by: andrewlim on Jan 15, 2013 at 08:53 PM
Post by: cnn on Jan 15, 2013 at 10:19 PM
Guys im really torn between 51e550 and 50vt30. I tried searching for a comparison review between the two but cant find any. Im gonna be using it mostly on watching 1080p mkv and BD ISOs on my dedicated media player. My main TV (UN60D7000) is in my HT room so I will be placing this in our bedroom. I was wondering if I can get your expert advice on my dilemma.
Both units are Full HD 3D Plasma units.... and are solid brands...
But based on my actual side by side with a Samsung 51e550 vs my 42VT30... I did like the rich IQ and deep black levels of the PANA Plasma vs Samsung...Samsung plasma showed a bit greyish dark screens compared to true deep black of the VT30... Malayo talaga even if both units are set to DYNAMIC mode...
Very evident IQ difference in PANASONIC VT30's favor...
Hope this helps...
Post by: busabos on Jan 16, 2013 at 05:03 AM
Which one is better, it depends on your preference. You have to audition both TV to see what suits your taste, not to mention your budget.
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 16, 2013 at 07:47 AM
IMHO The Samsung plasma appears as if you're watching on a glossy screen, so it seems to be more bright. On the other hand, the Panasonic is like watching on a matte screen, so it appears to be more dark, thus black is more pronounced. Im sure a lot of people would disagree, but this is just based on my opinion.no pun bro but it seems youre insulting the R & D of the two companies you mentioned ;D
Which one is better, it depends on your preference. You have to audition both TV to see what suits your taste, not to mention your budget.
its not (just) about the glass ;)
Post by: andrewlim on Jan 16, 2013 at 10:50 AM
Post by: busabos on Jan 16, 2013 at 01:05 PM
Post by: garnetgirl on Jan 16, 2013 at 01:59 PM
Is there a way to check the panel display time / usage time for this TV?
Yes there is, it's through the service menu. I'll have to look for the link though.
Post by: cnn on Jan 16, 2013 at 02:46 PM
Yes there is, it's through the service menu. I'll have to look for the link though.hmmm interesting...
Please share the link here as well. Thanks...
Post by: garnetgirl on Jan 16, 2013 at 09:06 PM
Post by: andrewlim on Jan 20, 2013 at 07:58 PM
Post by: stat on Jan 21, 2013 at 09:09 PM
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 21, 2013 at 11:18 PM
Guys meron pa ba 42VT30 in local stores? Vic has the 50" variant only. Pang bedroom lang kasi.
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 22, 2013 at 06:55 AM
Guys meron pa ba 42VT30 in local stores? Vic has the 50" variant only. Pang bedroom lang kasi.were you the guy inquiring last weekend? :)
a 50" IMO is big enough even @ 6ft :)
i wish 6ft away lang sakin ang tv ko instead of 8.
Post by: cnn on Jan 22, 2013 at 08:30 AM
Guys meron pa ba 42VT30 in local stores? Vic has the 50" variant only. Pang bedroom lang kasi.The 50VT30 is still one of the best units that a buyer can get in the 50Inch segment... Its a good choice...
Too bad the 42VT30 units are all sold out... im sure matagal pa yan before you'll find one in the FS section in PDVD...
Post by: andrewlim on Jan 22, 2013 at 12:27 PM
Heres my current settings: (hdmi NMT 1080p/24)
Mode: Cinema
Contrast: 75
Brightness: 0
Colour: 64
Sharpness: 0
Tint: -1
Colour Balance: Normal
Vivid Colour: Off
Colour Remaster: Off
Eco Mode: Off
P-NR: Off
24p smooth: Max
Resolution Enhancer: Mid
Gamma: 2.2
The rest is untouched.
Post by: whatismyip on Feb 25, 2013 at 04:22 PM
Post by: revskie on Feb 25, 2013 at 09:58 PM
Post by: cnn on Feb 26, 2013 at 11:21 PM
kamusta na mga vt30 nyo mga ka pdvd? heheh alive and kicking pa?
Still rock solid... Amazing DYNAMIC colors when watching 1080p material...
No pink green blobs... I got lucky with a very good unit...
42VT30 rocks!!!!
Post by: Clondalkin on Mar 02, 2013 at 05:15 AM
Oh, my wife's 50VT30 is doing tooooooo well with our immediate relatives. Dumalas ang pagbisita ng mga siblings and their families. ;D
Post by: acepogs on Mar 05, 2013 at 01:24 PM
Post by: cnn on Apr 05, 2013 at 11:59 PM
summer is here... my kids are enjoying the VT30 every night during our MOVIE Nights!!!
I wonder if there are 50VT30 units in the market... planning to get the 50incher version for our sala :D
Post by: ngek2x on Apr 09, 2013 at 11:25 PM
Post by: DTNS on Apr 09, 2013 at 11:40 PM
Post by: cnn on Apr 10, 2013 at 02:56 PM
^ 62k. but I don't know if any AV shop still has stocks of the 50VT30 though
wow... 62K big clams... still pricey... but really worth it if you find one in the market...
Post by: DTNS on Apr 10, 2013 at 09:15 PM
wow... 62K big clams... still pricey... but really worth it if you find one in the market...
yup! big price difference between it and its main rival, the Samsung 51E550. (this costs "just" 49k! ;))
Post by: anchit on Apr 23, 2013 at 12:13 PM
Post by: cnn on Apr 23, 2013 at 12:40 PM
just saw a 65vt30 here in melb, iba pala talaga sya. my reaction was like when I first saw a kuro. being sold for 2.4kaud, 1.1k more expensive sa nakuha ko na 60ut60.
Nice :D
Post by: Clondalkin on Apr 24, 2013 at 09:43 AM
You might want to consider trading up to the VT30 (or better yet a VT50) if possible. 2.4KAUD is still a great deal for a 65-inch top of the line model (in 2011).
just saw a 65vt30 here in melb, iba pala talaga sya. my reaction was like when I first saw a kuro. being sold for 2.4kaud, 1.1k more expensive sa nakuha ko na 60ut60.
Post by: anchit on Apr 25, 2013 at 12:16 AM
Told you...hehehe
You might want to consider trading up to the VT30 (or better yet a VT50) if possible. 2.4KAUD is still a great deal for a 65-inch top of the line model (in 2011).
haha still settling in dito kaya wala pa budget for a tv that expensive :) ito ngang UT50 pahirapan na mapapprove kay finance manager ;)
The VT30 was actually on sale, last unit, from 3.4k to 2.4k. Napa-wow talaga ako. pero happy naman na ako sa TV wag lang itatabi dito. sayang wala na din ST50 dito, pahirapan makakuha, kaya i settled for a UT50.
Up for this VT30 tv! )
Post by: cnn on May 08, 2013 at 08:25 AM
read this...
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/panasonic-tc-p55vt60/4505-6482_7-35567332.html
The good: The Panasonic VT60 produces the best picture quality of any TV we've ever reviewed, equal to or better than our in-house Pioneer Kuro reference; exceedingly deep black levels and excellent shadow detail; well-saturated colors and excellent skin tones; industry-leading sound quality; extensive features including touch-pad remote, voice control, and onboard camera.
The bad: Extremely expensive; forthcoming ZT60 might have even better picture quality; worse bright-room picture than that of the Samsung F8500; somewhat humdrum design; camera is limited, and facial recognition is a gimmick.
The bottom line: The Panasonic VT60 has one of the best pictures of any TV we've ever reviewed, but it's soon to face some tough competition.
Panasonic has been top of the picture-quality pile for the past five-plus years, ever since the Pioneer Kuro (now known as the "K-word") bowed out of the frame. Panasonic inherited technology and engineers in Pioneer's shakeup and has been inching toward beating the K-word ever since, but never quite got there. I would argue that 2013 is the year Panasonic has finally cracked it.
The VT60 is an excellent plasma with perhaps the best image quality you'll see this year not powered by light-emitting diodes. It is a shade better than the Kuro we've been using as a reference these long years, it beats the Samsung F8500 in critical dim-room viewing situations, and it's demonstrably better than the outstanding ST60. It boasts industry-leading black levels, illuminating shadow detail, and rich, saturated colors.
There are a couple of problems, however. The first is price: the VT60 is exactly twice the cost of the ST60, and its picture is by no stretch of the imagination twice as good. In other words, this is a TV not just for videophiles, but, like the Kuro and the F8500, it's a TV for relatively wealthy videophiles.
Another problem looms for those who can afford it: Panasonic's own ZT60, a step-up model that the company describes as delivering "beyond the reference" picture quality that's even better than that of the VT60. Videophiles in this tax bracket who simply want the best picture quality they can get, money no object, won't bat an eye at the extra $500 the ZT60 demands.
We haven't reviewed the ZT60 yet, so we don't know whether it can live up to those claims, but as soon as we do, we'll update this review. In the meantime, we do know one thing: the Panasonic VT60 is probably the best-performing TV we've ever seen.
Series information: I performed a hands-on evaluation of the 60-inch Panasonic TC-P60VT60, but this review also applies to the other screen sizes in the series. All sizes have identical specs and according to the manufacturer should provide very similar picture quality.
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Post by: rhizom3 on Jun 05, 2013 at 08:10 PM
I think I saw a 'dead' pixel on my 42VT30. I'm not even sure if it is dead (or maybe dying?). When the TV tries to render a colored image (any color except black) and nagkataon na yung image na yan falls under this 'dying' pixel, it fluctuates a green color (yes nag bliblink cya in green!). When the TV renders a black image in the screen, Ok cya. I don't know if I explained it correctly but that's what I'm seeing. So far, isang pixel lang naman. It is located at the upper left part of the TV screen. If you're familiar with Algebra, this dead pixel can be found at the center of the 2nd quadrant of the X & Y axis. Kayo na po bahala mag imagine. Hehe.
I bought my unit at SnS. Should I be alarmed and contact the shop for warranty claims (if covered ng warranty)? My unit is 6 months old.
Post by: Allan_2180 on Jun 06, 2013 at 11:56 AM
Guys,The red and blue subpixels are already dead and green subpixel na lang ang natitirang buhay.
I think I saw a 'dead' pixel on my 42VT30. I'm not even sure if it is dead (or maybe dying?). When the TV tries to render a colored image (any color except black) and nagkataon na yung image na yan falls under this 'dying' pixel, it fluctuates a green color (yes nag bliblink cya in green!). When the TV renders a black image in the screen, Ok cya. I don't know if I explained it correctly but that's what I'm seeing. So far, isang pixel lang naman. It is located at the upper left part of the TV screen. If you're familiar with Algebra, this dead pixel can be found at the center of the 2nd quadrant of the X & Y axis. Kayo na po bahala mag imagine. Hehe.
I bought my unit at SnS. Should I be alarmed and contact the shop for warranty claims (if covered ng warranty)? My unit is 6 months old.
Pag isang pixel lang ang faulty, hindi pa considered as defective unit. bka from day 0 nanjan na yan
at ngayon lang napansin when you seat really close to the screen. My ST30 has a dead pixel
(no rgb light) on center of 4th Quadrant and I think it is still considered as normal and hindi naman kasi obvious 8ft away from my seat wag lang tlaga titigan ang coordinate ng dead pixel kasi mapapansin tlga ito when watching a foot away from the screen.
Pag dumadami na sila at magkakadikit na... then you should be alarmed and call SNS for warranty claim.
Post by: _kamatis on Jun 09, 2013 at 12:54 PM
invest na lang muna yung pang bili ng new gear.
Post by: Clondalkin on Jul 05, 2013 at 02:17 PM
You guys better check this out bago ko kayo unahan sa upcoming summer vacation ko. Hehe
Post by: DTNS on Jul 05, 2013 at 08:07 PM
Somebody informed me that the 50VT30 is available (again?) kay Dom. True?
You guys better check this out bago ko kayo unahan sa upcoming summer vacation ko. Hehe
si tein din ata magkakaroon muli ng stocks ng 50VT30. hmmm... new old stocks?
Post by: revskie on Jul 05, 2013 at 09:54 PM
Post by: DTNS on Jul 06, 2013 at 04:46 PM
Post by: cnn on Jul 06, 2013 at 07:41 PM
Di kaya ito yung mga returned units with the perceived green blob defect? :) just a thought.most likely... better test to the max para sure...
Post by: Clondalkin on Jul 06, 2013 at 09:01 PM
What high end TV can you buy for 60K even right now? ;) Wala po. Magkano ang Samsung 8500, ang SonyHX, and even the VT60?
50VT50 I heard would be around 120K - reasonably correct pa rin I think considering yung profit ng local dealer. Kahit mag-math tayo, you need to depreciate that 3X at 20% to go down to 60K.
Just check the unit carefully.
Post by: DonMiguel85 on Jul 07, 2013 at 07:44 AM
Post by: DTNS on Jul 07, 2013 at 02:40 PM
Is the 60 series already here? They just came out in the US around May or June right?
some sellers have the 65 inch ST60 and VT60 already. :)
Post by: Clondalkin on Jul 08, 2013 at 07:43 AM
High-end na nga, ubod pa ng laki, ubod pa ng mahal. Even sa Japan, hindi binibili ng normal na tao ang 65V. Hehehe
some sellers have the 65 inch ST60 and VT60 already. :)
Post by: Clondalkin on Jul 08, 2013 at 07:56 AM
I am definitely interested because my relatives have been asking me about my 50VT30 all the time.
Post by: acepogs on Jul 09, 2013 at 02:57 PM
Post by: Clondalkin on Jul 09, 2013 at 03:57 PM
Get in touch with your seller immediately.
Good luck!
My 42VT30 has a single vertical line located at 1cm right after the bezel (left side), color looks like purple. only visible when viewing light but not bright background, not visible during dark scene. Checked different sources still persist. Looks like permanent. Unit is 8 months old and got noticed yesterday, if somehow needs a warranty service do you think the panel is replaceable and still has a spare on it, or even whole unit replacement? Worse scenario ending up with different brand. I don't think upgrade is an option since VT50 series would not match the price and as if 50VT30 is still available. And even other brand would not match the performance of vt30 for its price. So wishing panel is replaceable if that's the problem or whole unit if spare part is not available.
Post by: zipfx on Jul 10, 2013 at 03:34 AM
Post by: Clondalkin on Jul 10, 2013 at 08:33 AM
Thanks!
bought 40pu200 and denon reciever last week, natanong ko lang dun sa staff naging last price ng 50VT30 nung meron pa sila sabi niya sa akin 57K daw sabi ko sayang mura kesa pagkabili ko last dec and to my surprise may isa pa daw silang stock! wow muntik nako mapautang hehehe
Post by: zipfx on Jul 10, 2013 at 03:22 PM
Saan store or seller?
Thanks!
sa may AVX harrison sir
Post by: Clondalkin on Jul 10, 2013 at 03:28 PM
sa may AVX harrison sir
Post by: acepogs on Jul 10, 2013 at 03:33 PM
Just to clarify, is that the very edge of the actual viewable area of the panel, or meron pang image between the purple line and the bezel? If the purple line corresponds to the edge of the viewable area, I think not properly positioned/centered lang yung panel relative to the left and right bezel. I've seen some HDTVs like that. Baka ma-adjust (ma-i-usog) pa yung panel to center it.
Get in touch with your seller immediately.
Good luck!
Technically it is a real vertical line. Just a centimeter away from the bezel sayang at ngaun pa xa lumabas kahit one cm xa visible pag malapet nagkataon lng na purple hindi maxado halata. I hope marepair sayang ang value eh. Napamahal na saken haha saka dame na nitong napaligayang tao.
Thanks
Post by: Clondalkin on Jul 10, 2013 at 03:37 PM
Technically it is a real vertical line. Just a centimeter away from the bezel sayang at ngaun pa xa lumabas kahit one cm xa visible pag malapet nagkataon lng na purple hindi maxado halata. I hope marepair sayang ang value eh. Napamahal na saken haha saka dame na nitong napaligayang tao.
Thanks
Post by: acepogs on Jul 11, 2013 at 11:35 AM
Post by: cnn on Jul 11, 2013 at 11:09 PM
Indeed, may picture before the line. And its a straight line na parang sinulatan ng ballpen na color puprle. Maybe I should post a picture of it so everybody shall have an idea.
yes please post pictures ... full TV then close up of the line.., curious how this looks...
Post by: acebone on Jul 12, 2013 at 12:32 AM
Guys,
I think I saw a 'dead' pixel on my 42VT30. I'm not even sure if it is dead (or maybe dying?). When the TV tries to render a colored image (any color except black) and nagkataon na yung image na yan falls under this 'dying' pixel, it fluctuates a green color (yes nag bliblink cya in green!). When the TV renders a black image in the screen, Ok cya. I don't know if I explained it correctly but that's what I'm seeing. So far, isang pixel lang naman. It is located at the upper left part of the TV screen. If you're familiar with Algebra, this dead pixel can be found at the center of the 2nd quadrant of the X & Y axis. Kayo na po bahala mag imagine. Hehe.
I bought my unit at SnS. Should I be alarmed and contact the shop for warranty claims (if covered ng warranty)? My unit is 6 months old.
Though my tv is not a Panny, you may try na din to contact SNS if there is anything they can do about it. Wala namang masama kung magtatanong lang naman. In fact, when I bought my tv from them, I asked them "what if a dead pixel appears?" and ang sabi nila tawag lang daw sa kanila for any assistance. So try it. It's better than doing nothing.
Cheers!
Post by: acepogs on Jul 13, 2013 at 09:31 PM
(http://dc694.4shared.com/img/Iq2_s6eT/13fd80a5820/42vt30_line.jpg) (http://www.4shared.com/photo/Iq2_s6eT/42vt30_line.html)
here are the pics.
Post by: sardaukar on Jul 14, 2013 at 10:58 AM
Post by: _kamatis on Jul 14, 2013 at 12:21 PM
Post by: acepogs on Jul 15, 2013 at 07:53 AM
Post by: _kamatis on Jul 15, 2013 at 05:42 PM
Post by: acepogs on Jul 16, 2013 at 02:49 PM
Post by: anya618 on Jul 17, 2013 at 08:45 AM
Post by: acepogs on Jul 17, 2013 at 12:41 PM
Then 2days pagkalabas ng line, I decided na iplug na lng sa BELKIN surge, BELKIN connected to outlet, AVR connected to Belkin.
TV plugged in to BELKIN, the line still there, one day past, nanood ng tv 7, may line, suddenly nanood ng depicable me 1 thru ps3, pag lipat ng tv sa pioneer at nagulat na lng ako baket di ko makita si line. Lipat lipat channel pati source wala na talga. Kahapon lng 2, nanood paq ng HUGO 3d, wala talga. Pag gising kaninang umaga wala parin. check ulit mamaya at mga ilang days.
Hmm I was wondering may kinalaman kaya ang AVR? Dati kasi khit may AVR na nakabit pa ung dalawa sa BELKIN, nilipat ko na lng SAMWON after 1 month pagkabili ko kasama si pio, at walang prob si TV at si PS3 no issues. until kinabit sa AVR then after 2 month ng nagloko agad si AVR. purchased April kasabay ng pio.
Post by: mak_mak on Sep 12, 2013 at 09:19 PM
My 42VT30 has a single vertical line located at 1cm right after the bezel (left side), color looks like purple. only visible when viewing light but not bright background, not visible during dark scene. Checked different sources still persist. Looks like permanent. Unit is 8 months old and got noticed yesterday, if somehow needs a warranty service do you think the panel is replaceable and still has a spare on it, or even whole unit replacement? Worse scenario ending up with different brand. I don't think upgrade is an option since VT50 series would not match the price and as if 50VT30 is still available. And even other brand would not match the performance of vt30 for its price. So wishing panel is replaceable if that's the problem or whole unit if spare part is not available.
Now, my 42vt30 HAS it too! >:( bought last nov.16, 2012...vertical purple line! very visible kahit sa fone cam....
(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk26/mark_richelle/09122013114.jpg) (http://s276.photobucket.com/user/mark_richelle/media/09122013114.jpg.html)
(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk26/mark_richelle/09122013115.jpg) (http://s276.photobucket.com/user/mark_richelle/media/09122013115.jpg.html)
too bad....very bad >:( :'(
Post by: acepogs on Sep 13, 2013 at 03:21 PM
Post by: acepogs on Sep 13, 2013 at 03:22 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 13, 2013 at 06:50 PM
So may vierra sticker pa rin talaga tv mo haha pareho tayo.kung pwede, tanggalin nyo yan sticker bro, maiipitan yan ng mini alikabok, that would scratch the bezel. dapat mga 1 month lang yan the most (for warranty purposes) nakadikit :)
Post by: mak_mak on Sep 13, 2013 at 07:26 PM
So may vierra sticker pa rin talaga tv mo haha pareho tayo.
yes sir, para mukhang laging bago...i'm glad that the shop where i bought it was quick enough to pull out my tv..2-3 weeks daw po or 1 month-the most ang itatagal nung unit sa kanila..napaka kinis nung tv ko, i hope pagbalik sa akin ganun pa din...
Post by: _kamatis on Sep 15, 2013 at 02:58 PM
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 15, 2013 at 04:22 PM
baka may kinalaman talaga yung sticker. :p hahaha
Post by: sardaukar on Sep 15, 2013 at 07:26 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 16, 2013 at 04:22 AM
Hindi ba kayo naiinis na may natatakpang part ng screen? Hindi ko kakayanin yon, hehe.ganyan daw mga matatanda eh para bago parin tignan
I would understand kung sa remote may plastic, pero sa screen lol
Post by: acepogs on Sep 16, 2013 at 01:35 PM
Post by: mak_mak on Sep 16, 2013 at 09:33 PM
Hirap alisin ung sticker, nandun kasi ung specifications eh, dun lang kasi madedefine kung ganu kaganda ung TV, toinks hehe. Pag nag re-quest ba ng pull-out may bayad sa service? Sinakay ko lng taxi para madala layo ko pa nnm pero baka 500 ang service haha sa taxi 300 lng.
wala pong charge yung pag pull out sa unit ko sir...covered pa naman ng warranty...tsaka okay lang magbayad ka sa kanila- baka kasi mas lalong damage ang abutin mo pag sa taxi at least pag sila ang nag pull out at nag ka problema during transport- it's on them...
Post by: rhizom3 on Sep 17, 2013 at 03:41 PM
And oh, I also have the specs sticker in the bezel. hehehe. I'll remove it later.
Post by: acepogs on Sep 17, 2013 at 03:46 PM
Post by: rhizom3 on Sep 17, 2013 at 04:03 PM
Mga ilang dead pixels ba ang kailangan before i-claim your warranty?
Post by: rochie on Sep 17, 2013 at 06:06 PM
Question is: Do they still have spare parts available for 42VT30 given that this TV was launched last 2011?2 years old pa lang naman madami pa spare parts yan.kahit 5 years old na meron pa yan lalo na reputable brand naman ang panasonic,usually kung wala silang stock ng spare parts locally oorder from the manufacturer mismo, doon lang medyo tumatagal.
Mga ilang dead pixels ba ang kailangan before i-claim your warranty?
Post by: cnn on Sep 17, 2013 at 07:13 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 17, 2013 at 10:44 PM
See mas marameng ayaw tanggalin ung sticker, nandun kasi ung name ng TV and ibang specs eh para makita ng bisita toinks! Anyway pag balik aalsisin ko na haha, sayang nmn di ko lam na walang bayad pag pull out eh ako na nagdala haha. Halos lahat november nabili mine was November 4. kamustana nmn ung iba jan? 3 palang taung may topak ang tv hehe. Question kung papalitan ung panel sa tingin nyo kasama ung Front Glass? or ung panel na nasa loob lng? Wish ko lng kasama ung glass para brand new ulit ung Glass hehe.yung sakin 1 year old na this month :)
btw dun sa nagkakaproblem sa tvs nila (including other brands), lagi nyo ba ginagamit ang tv? pansin ko kasi nagkakaproblema madalas yung mga owners na bihira gamitin ang tv nila.
Post by: cnn on Sep 18, 2013 at 06:30 AM
yung sakin 1 year old na this month :)mine is used 3~4 hours daily... still going strong (fingers crossed)
btw dun sa nagkakaproblem sa tvs nila (including other brands), lagi nyo ba ginagamit ang tv? pansin ko kasi nagkakaproblema madalas yung mga owners na bihira gamitin ang tv nila.
Post by: acepogs on Sep 18, 2013 at 12:22 PM
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 18, 2013 at 01:03 PM
Post by: pao9307 on Sep 18, 2013 at 01:20 PM
yung sakin 1 year old na this month :)pansin ko din nga.i have this 42vt30 and an old 42ld460,babad pareho and never nagkaproblema.madalas ng mababasa mo dito goes along the lines of 'used at most 4hrs a day5 days a week lang.sira na!'.
btw dun sa nagkakaproblem sa tvs nila (including other brands), lagi nyo ba ginagamit ang tv? pansin ko kasi nagkakaproblema madalas yung mga owners na bihira gamitin ang tv nila.
why is that?
Post by: _kamatis on Sep 18, 2013 at 01:22 PM
ganda nun ahahaha..
Post by: acepogs on Sep 18, 2013 at 03:43 PM
Post by: mak_mak on Sep 19, 2013 at 10:16 PM
Panalo kung ganun hahaha. Gaano kaya katagal magagawa ung TV lalo na ung akin eh more than 2 ang sira, baka maubusan sila ng panel pati mga boards haha!
mine is 2-3 weeks..daw? the shop actually asked for the serial number of my unit and some kind of "code"--kung saang supplier galing...actually sa supplier daw po nagtatagal yung unit pag ka pull out...
Me===> Shop ===> Supplier===> Panasonic....
Post by: Randy1981 on Sep 20, 2013 at 02:57 PM
mine is 2-3 weeks..daw? the shop actually asked for the serial number of my unit and some kind of "code"--kung saang supplier galing...actually sa supplier daw po nagtatagal yung unit pag ka pull out...san nyo nabili sir yung tv?yung sakin 50vt30 i think 1 month plang nagkaroon din ng vertical line parang sayo green nga lng ang color.then mabait naman ang mga taga AVX store sa harrison and si Dom pinalitan agad ng new unit.now 1 year na sakin yung tv ko so far ok na ok naman.
Me===> Shop ===> Supplier===> Panasonic....
Post by: acepogs on Sep 23, 2013 at 08:44 AM
Post by: kelz on Sep 23, 2013 at 10:12 PM
Post by: edboy7 on Sep 26, 2013 at 01:06 AM
Guys meron pa ba tayo local stores na may stock pa ng 42 or 50VT30? Need a plasma for movie viewing.
[/quotGuys meron pa ba tayo local stores na may stock pa ng 42 or 50VT30? Need a plasma for movie viewing.
Try to text DOM baka,meron pa siya stock meron narin siyang VT60 alam ko hehe
Post by: acepogs on Oct 08, 2013 at 02:05 PM
Post by: cnn on Oct 08, 2013 at 11:13 PM
Kamusta nmn ang repair ng VT30 nyo? mine mag one month na xa sa service center and still waiting for Power Supply, as if nagrequest na rin sila para sa LCD. I miss my Panny ang bagal naman ng process ng parts delivery nila.
Thanks for the update. Keep us posted on developments.
Post by: mak_mak on Oct 11, 2013 at 10:29 PM
Post by: cnn on Oct 12, 2013 at 06:28 AM
Just got my 42vt30 back..free delivery..more than 3 weeks din ang inabot..good as new ulet..Board daw po yung pinalitan...calibration mode ulet.. ;Dwow... nice... good as new!!! congrats !!!
Post by: revskie on Oct 12, 2013 at 06:51 AM
Post by: cnn on Oct 12, 2013 at 02:08 PM
Just got my 42vt30 back..free delivery..more than 3 weeks din ang inabot..good as new ulet..Board daw po yung pinalitan...calibration mode ulet.. ;D
oh yeah... same question... where did you buy your 42VT30?
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 12, 2013 at 11:51 PM
Post by: mak_mak on Oct 13, 2013 at 09:17 PM
Kanino mo nabili tv mo brod?
Listening Room sir, megamall...
my 42vt30 is back online :)
Post by: acepogs on Oct 14, 2013 at 12:21 PM
Post by: mak_mak on Oct 14, 2013 at 02:16 PM
Post by: acepogs on Oct 14, 2013 at 02:26 PM
Post by: acepogs on Oct 28, 2013 at 11:19 AM
Post by: mak_mak on Oct 30, 2013 at 04:16 AM
1 month and two weeks. still pending, this will be the 3rd week.
no way! napakatagal naman po ata nyan....
Post by: acepogs on Oct 31, 2013 at 12:03 PM
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 01, 2013 at 02:01 AM
Definitely at ang reply before end of the week or early next week darating na daw ang part. Awts How come ganun lng ang service. 2 months na xa next week.
Post by: acepogs on Nov 01, 2013 at 11:04 AM
Post by: cnn on Nov 01, 2013 at 02:37 PM
Today my 42VT30 is officially 1 year old plus 1 day :D
Sana maayos na issues ni Acepogs ... :( and his unit will be as good as new :D
Post by: acepogs on Nov 07, 2013 at 07:41 PM
Post by: gunslinger on Nov 08, 2013 at 01:08 AM
We got a 50VT30 last year from SNS na nasa province na ngayon. Out of warranty na siya from SNS (grey unit) and a couple of days ago, ayaw na mag-on. Since I am not there, the TV was checked by a local tech and he said its the power board. Ayaw ko sana pacheck sa iba pero nangyari na. I'm not sure what to do at this point because I want a second opinion. How's the service of SNS for out of warranty repairs? Do they even offer this service? Iniisip ko kasi if I have to bring the unit back to Manila or if i can arrange for the nearest Pana service center to check it. Btw, its 8-10 hours travel from our province (Cagayan) to Manila.
Post by: acepogs on Nov 08, 2013 at 03:59 PM
Post by: mak_mak on Nov 08, 2013 at 10:20 PM
oh no, isa-isa po atang nayayari mga vt30 naten huh.. >:(
sir, bago mo po dalhin sa panny SC, tanung mo po muna kung tumatanggap sila ng ganung model/unit for repair...if they say NO, that's the time na dalhin mo na sa SNS though pahirapan yung repair services nila...
@acepogs
hmmm...SNS dapat ang gumagawa ng paraan, they should pressure their supplier for the replacement parts..whether may warranty or wala-dapat priority nila yung mga ganyang problema...that's too bad...2 months waiting for nothing.... >:(
Post by: gunslinger on Nov 09, 2013 at 09:03 AM
Post by: acepogs on Nov 11, 2013 at 11:24 AM
Post by: acepogs on Nov 13, 2013 at 09:11 AM
As for you guys what will you choose? Get it replaced?
On my thought I would like them to give me a service unit and wait until the Panel get replaced.
Post by: cnn on Nov 13, 2013 at 05:02 PM
Video board found to be OK and it is a Panel issue, offered a replacement, but I asked if the Panel is still replaceable and that will make the TV brand new.
As for you guys what will you choose? Get it replaced?
On my thought I would like them to give me a service unit and wait until the Panel get replaced.
Better get service unit and wait for panel to be replaced. Vt30 is still a great plasma tv.
Post by: acepogs on Nov 14, 2013 at 07:50 AM
Post by: acepogs on Nov 18, 2013 at 10:43 AM
Post by: gunslinger on Nov 18, 2013 at 10:55 AM
Post by: cnn on Nov 19, 2013 at 09:29 AM
Vic of SNS pulled through and I got a Panasonic Service center contact in the province. now scheduling to have it diagnosed and hopefully get the defective part replaced. I will update this thread for the progress.
thats good news... its really an advantage to buy from reputable stores such as SnS because of their after sales support..
hope your unit gets repaired soon...
Post by: mak_mak on Nov 19, 2013 at 04:04 PM
congrats sa bagong TV...
though sayang yung vt30...
nag google-google ako and found these calibration settings sa VT30 thread....
professional mode
Contrast 35
Brightness 0 (default)
Coulor 30 (default)
Gamma:
2.2
10IRE -11
20IRE 0
30IRE 0
40IRE 0
50IRE 0
60IRE 0
70IRE -2
80IRE 1
90IRE 1
100IRE 0
White Balance:
RG 9
GG -6
BG 9
RC 2
GC 0
BC 0
Detailed:
IRE10 -7, 1, -11
IRE20 -6, 0, -13
IRE30 -2, 0, -5
IRE40 0, 0, -3
IRE50 1, 2, -4
IRE60 3, 0, 3
IRE70 2, 0, -2
IRE80 0, 0, -4
IRE90 -2, 0, -1
IRE100 -3, 0, -3
Color Management:
RH 0
GH -3
BH 11
RS -3
GS -11
BS 20
RL -4
GL -7
BL 14
YH 6
CH -2
MH 5
YS 2
CS -2
MS 0
YL -2
CL -2
ML -5...
i've tried all the settings posted there-but this one ruled them all,,, ;D
Post by: acepogs on Nov 20, 2013 at 03:52 PM
Post by: cnn on Nov 20, 2013 at 06:55 PM
Hehe there is no THX for this led TV haha, I wish the PQ is still good, sadly I wish pana warranty is up to 2 yrs.
me too... electronic devices should carry at least 2 years... if other non primary brands can offer 2 years or more... panasonic, having its reputation and quality, could and should easily afford to offer 2 years warranty.... SONY and SAMSUNG LG offers more than 1 year warranty... why can't panasonic do the same?
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 21, 2013 at 07:32 AM
me too... electronic devices should carry at least 2 years... if other non primary brands can offer 2 years or more... panasonic, having its reputation and quality, could and should easily afford to offer 2 years warranty.... SONY and SAMSUNG LG offers more than 1 year warranty... why can't panasonic do the same?bro dito lang naman sa atin palpak ang panasonic service eh
kung di lang maganda ang tv nila (at aftersales ni vic) di ko talaga isusugal kumuha ng panasonic
Post by: acepogs on Nov 21, 2013 at 10:23 AM
Post by: cnn on Nov 22, 2013 at 08:20 AM
bro dito lang naman sa atin palpak ang panasonic service eh
kung di lang maganda ang tv nila (at aftersales ni vic) di ko talaga isusugal kumuha ng panasonic
same here... i really like the VT30 very much and am very confident and sure with SnS (sir vic's) after service support... kaya na ka bill din ako ng PANA even if i was seriously considering a SONY... because of the 2 year warranty...
so far so good... VT30 is still going strong :D
Post by: acepogs on Nov 25, 2013 at 12:08 PM
Post by: gunslinger on Nov 27, 2013 at 07:23 AM
Post by: GIJoe on Nov 27, 2013 at 07:27 AM
Ok na yung 50VT30. Was only charged 1K for the service including pick-up and delivery of the unit. Loose soldering lang daw and good as new na siya. Kudos to Vic of SNS and for the Pana Service Center in Cauayan, Isabela. At least may peace of mind na ako na there is a reliable service center near us who can look after our gears. Happily gave 1.5K + free lunch pa because of the excellent service. :)
From isabela ka pala brader. From isabela din ako. Nice naayos din ang TV mo.
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 27, 2013 at 07:36 AM
Ok na yung 50VT30. Was only charged 1K for the service including pick-up and delivery of the unit. Loose soldering lang daw and good as new na siya. Kudos to Vic of SNS and for the Pana Service Center in Cauayan, Isabela. At least may peace of mind na ako na there is a reliable service center near us who can look after our gears. Happily gave 1.5K + free lunch pa because of the excellent service. :)nice to know naayos bro :D
Post by: gunslinger on Nov 27, 2013 at 07:42 AM
Post by: cnn on Nov 27, 2013 at 09:41 AM
Ok na yung 50VT30. Was only charged 1K for the service including pick-up and delivery of the unit. Loose soldering lang daw and good as new na siya. Kudos to Vic of SNS and for the Pana Service Center in Cauayan, Isabela. At least may peace of mind na ako na there is a reliable service center near us who can look after our gears. Happily gave 1.5K + free lunch pa because of the excellent service. :)
wow thats good news... :D
Post by: dannielsimone on Nov 28, 2013 at 12:48 AM
Post by: dannielsimone on Nov 28, 2013 at 01:44 AM
http://reviews.cnet.com/best-tvs-picture-quality/
Post by: mak_mak on Nov 28, 2013 at 11:11 PM
Ok na yung 50VT30. Was only charged 1K for the service including pick-up and delivery of the unit. Loose soldering lang daw and good as new na siya. Kudos to Vic of SNS and for the Pana Service Center in Cauayan, Isabela. At least may peace of mind na ako na there is a reliable service center near us who can look after our gears. Happily gave 1.5K + free lunch pa because of the excellent service. :)
very good!
Post by: cnn on Dec 31, 2013 at 10:40 PM
1 YEAR++ NA MGA UNITS NATIN!!!
MAY IT CONTINUE TO GIVE US VIEWING PLEASURE FOR MANY MORE YEARS TO COME :D
Post by: lejerp on Jan 19, 2014 at 07:45 PM
Post by: cnn on Jan 20, 2014 at 10:23 PM
Pansin ko lang sa mga nabasa ko dito sa PDVD. Magaganda ang reviews about Panasonic Plasmas. Kung okay talaga yung mga Panasonic Plasmas, eh baka pwede maging number one choice ko toh, kahit push ko na lang ng konti yung budget ko. Etong 42UT30 at 42VT30 ang gaganda ng mga feedbacks nyo. Magkano ba bili nyo ng TV na toh that time, i read na 39k sa SnS back in 2012. Siguro ngayon mura na lang, kahit alin sana sa 42UT30 at 42V30. Both 3D naman. Perfect pa ang Plasma since sa kwarto ko sya ilalagay at medyo madilim sya kahit daylight dahil isang regular sized window lang at dark colord ang curtains, siguro kung black curtains or drapes na lang para totally dark ang room for better cinema like feel. Sana mas mababa na price ngayon, paabot sana ng 31k hehe!
Yes the 42VT30 is an ideal tv for the room... perfect size and PQ...
At 31K it is really a good price... IF YOU CAN STILL FIND ONE...
Post by: lejerp on Jan 21, 2014 at 05:05 AM
Yes the 42VT30 is an ideal tv for the room... perfect size and PQ...
At 31K it is really a good price... IF YOU CAN STILL FIND ONE...
HAHAHAHA! Yun na nga sir eh, talo ako dun. Wala na ko makita. Pero may nakita akong 42" UT30 di ko na sasabihin kung saan baka maunahan ako. Joke haha! Ang problema lang eh kung paano kung masira, walang replacement unit kaya nakakatakot na ngayon bumili ng panny. Mga last units na lang yata talaga mga natitira ngayon pwera na lang sa ibang TV ng panny
Post by: gunslinger on Jan 21, 2014 at 07:33 AM
Post by: DTNS on Jan 21, 2014 at 08:16 PM
Post by: lejerp on Jan 21, 2014 at 08:25 PM
meron Pana 42UT50 kay tein (Sound&Vision) ;)
Onga po eh. Pera na lang kulang tsaka di rin pasok sa budget kase 39k sya. -_-
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 21, 2014 at 10:54 PM
Onga po eh. Pera na lang kulang tsaka di rin pasok sa budget kase 39k sya. -_-to be honest bargain na yan @ 39k. :)
Post by: cnn on Jan 22, 2014 at 12:12 AM
to be honest bargain na yan @ 39k. :)... i agree... bargain... na yan
Post by: comet on Jan 22, 2014 at 12:31 AM
Post by: lejerp on Jan 22, 2014 at 07:39 AM
to be honest bargain na yan @ 39k. :)
Onga po sir eh. May nakita naman ako pasok sa budget ko, Panny Plasma din pero UT30. For 24k, kaso parang mga phased out na yata yung mga ganung model, pano ko may defect mahirap palitan kase baka yung mabili ko eh pinaka last unit. Phased out na rin ba itong VT30 sir? Kase kung hindi sya phased out, sadyang mahirap lang talaga hanapin. Pwede ko talaga pilitin na yan na lang bilhin ko since 30k naman budget ko.
Post by: rhizom3 on Feb 03, 2014 at 04:30 PM
Post by: mak_mak on Feb 10, 2014 at 12:57 AM
So far so good pa naman VT30 ko. Meron lang talaga isang dead pixel. :( Pwede pa kaya ito ma fix?
oh no...
Post by: gunslinger on Aug 28, 2014 at 12:38 PM
Post by: revskie on Aug 28, 2014 at 06:52 PM
Post by: gunslinger on Aug 29, 2014 at 02:00 PM
Post by: revskie on Aug 29, 2014 at 05:02 PM
Post by: Clondalkin on Aug 29, 2014 at 09:26 PM
Folks, I need help. Wala na naman power yung VT30 namin. The service center already checked and its SU board daw ang sira. The problem is, wala na daw parts available even from Japan. Is this true? Sayang naman yung TV. Less than 2 years pa lang siya. Any other source of parts?
Post by: gunslinger on Aug 30, 2014 at 02:11 PM
Bro, if no other options are available. I suggest you bring the unit to a respected electronics shop and let them go into component level or repair. You'd be surprised that sometimes the components that needed to be replaced are busted capacitors widely available in Raon. Good luck!Thanks. Can you reccommend one?
Post by: revskie on Aug 31, 2014 at 05:52 PM
Post by: cnn on Sep 03, 2014 at 08:59 PM
THE 42VT30 is a very good unit... Sad to hear that this happened to your unit...
Post by: joelsoldao on Sep 07, 2014 at 04:28 PM
Post by: dannielsimone on Sep 11, 2014 at 07:02 PM
Post by: espionage on Sep 12, 2014 at 10:57 AM
Post by: gunslinger on Sep 14, 2014 at 04:31 PM
Post by: revskie on Sep 14, 2014 at 07:04 PM
Post by: mak_mak on Sep 19, 2014 at 07:59 AM
Post by: Randy1981 on Jul 30, 2015 at 11:45 PM
Post by: revskie on Aug 25, 2015 at 01:15 PM
Note that 51in Plasmas by Samsung were in the vicinity of P28K brandnew.
Post by: mykel18 on Aug 25, 2015 at 01:22 PM
How much you want to sell it for?
Note that 51in Plasmas by Samsung were in the vicinity of P28K brandnew.
Are the 28k Samsung 51's Full HD already? The VT30 series are the premium line of Panasonic Plasma TV and is Full HD already.
Post by: rochie on Aug 25, 2015 at 01:28 PM
How much you want to sell it for?
Note that 51in Plasmas by Samsung were in the vicinity of P28K brandnew.
what model of samsung is that?VT30 is TOTL and one of the best when it comes to PQ.
Post by: Quitacet on Aug 25, 2015 at 01:33 PM
this is what I have, but i got mine at 32K a year ago. 1080p Full HD na
Post by: CMac on Aug 25, 2015 at 11:04 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 26, 2015 at 12:24 AM
Post by: DTNS on Aug 26, 2015 at 10:38 AM
ill keep my 50VT30 until it conks out (crossing fingers). wala talaga akong magustuhan LED, even above 100k price range. gusto ko pa naman mag 60" na sana.
kahit curved 4K at OLED ayaw mo?
Post by: mykel18 on Aug 26, 2015 at 10:40 AM
on Aug 26, 2015 at 12:24 AMill keep my 50VT30 until it conks out (crossing fingers). wala talaga akong magustuhan LED, even above 100k price range. gusto ko pa naman mag 60" na sana.
Pamana mo na saken yan pag aalis ka na
Post by: cnn on Aug 26, 2015 at 11:06 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 27, 2015 at 12:59 AM
kahit curved 4K at OLED ayaw mo?ayaw ko bro, unless libre hahaha
curved plasma pwede ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 27, 2015 at 12:59 AM
Pamana mo na saken yan pag aalis ka nahahaha pwede bro :)
Post by: dannielsimone on Feb 11, 2017 at 04:00 PM
Post by: seventhheaven on Jan 16, 2019 at 07:42 AM
My 42VT30 has gotten the 1 pixel sized magenta/reddish purple verticle line that is visible on the full width of the screen.
I did some googling and I read in a post na plasma panel na daw may sira kapag ganito yung issue.
Anyone else na may problem na ganito and were you able to have it fixed?
1000+ hours palang si VT30 ko when I checked the service menu. To add insult to injury, kakabili ko lang ng PS4 after a couple of days lumabas na si vertical line. Haaaaay...
Post by: cnn on Jan 22, 2019 at 02:01 PM
Lonely new year to me!
My 42VT30 has gotten the 1 pixel sized magenta/reddish purple verticle line that is visible on the full width of the screen.
I did some googling and I read in a post na plasma panel na daw may sira kapag ganito yung issue.
Anyone else na may problem na ganito and were you able to have it fixed?
1000+ hours palang si VT30 ko when I checked the service menu. To add insult to injury, kakabili ko lang ng PS4 after a couple of days lumabas na si vertical line. Haaaaay...
Want to BUY my 42VT30 for parts.... P.M ME
Post by: dannielsimone on May 09, 2020 at 11:28 AM
SET IT UP THE OTHER DAY. WATCHED 2 BD AND ANALOG SKY CABLE. SO FAR SO VERY GOOD. BEAUTIFUL PQ AND REAL BLACK "BLACKS". OF COURSE THE SOUND QUALITY IS POOR BUT AIN'T IT ALWAYS WITH PANNY PLASMA.
Ok...so here I am 8 years after starting this thread. I must say this Plasma has been great for HD and standard def. I never used it for 3D viewing in fact my 3D glasses are still in the box. Yesterday my penny Fritzed out. It powers on with green light but with seconds I get the dreaded 7 blinking red lights on the power button. Anyone else have this problem on this unit or other high end Panny Plasma? Any recommendations?
8 Years life span was not bad. I downsized my residence recently. I have an older Panny TH-42PV80H which has been set to one side and not used for over 1 year. It has now replaced my 42VT30 and is working well and PQ looks good enough. I consider myself so lucky to have it.
I welcome all your feedback and comments.
Post by: synchro_01 on May 09, 2020 at 12:27 PM
I know for a fact that Markcrenz can fix this issue.
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on May 09, 2020 at 06:44 PM
Post by: t-bone on May 09, 2020 at 07:31 PM
A lot of appliances are conking out during this ECQ months. Might be of age or overworked. kinda OT but my daughter's room her Panasonic aircon is a bit tired of giving a strong cooling in her room. The air we give out to blow a candle is much stronger than her a/c is giving. ;D
General cleaning kalilangan dyan, using power wash.
Samaung plasma kaya din ni Markcrenz? :)
Post by: CMac on May 11, 2020 at 06:50 AM
Ako din may papagawa sana kay sir markcrenz. Kaso di siya nag reply pm. :c
Post by: dannielsimone on Jun 03, 2020 at 05:40 PM
my 12 year old Panasonic 42PV70 Plasma conked out 3 months ago. Ill have it fixed after this ECQ. Same issue with the blinking lights.
I know for a fact that Markcrenz can fix this issue.
After you have it fixed I would appreciate if you could post the "remedy" and the cost involved.
Have a great day.