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Title: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: dannielsimone on Aug 31, 2012 at 09:02 PM
The 3D-TV fad seems to be fading -- and giant, cinema-style 4K sets are the newest cutting-edge tech marvels destined for your living room.

A truckload of new TVs, with screen resolutions four times greater than so-called full HD screens, are being unveiled at this week's IFA technology show in Berlin. The screens -- referred to as 4K or ultradefinition -- were among dozens of new gadgets on display for the 250,000 people who descended on Berlin's conference halls.


http://news.yahoo.com/forget-3d--your-dream-tv-should-be-4k.html

Title: Re: OMG..WoW ...4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: joko11 on Aug 31, 2012 at 09:09 PM
4k source should be sell in the street first so 4k panel follow
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Tavus on Sep 02, 2012 at 03:43 PM
its uber expensive though. One 84 inch cost like 10k usd, as much as a car. I Give it 5-10 more years before the prices reach consumer levels.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: icefrog on Sep 02, 2012 at 04:20 PM
This will only be good to drive the prices of Full HD TVs even lower, hence cementing Full HD as the standard for a very long time esp. for 50 inches and lower TVs w/c is the mass market.

Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: ndy on Nov 04, 2012 at 01:31 PM
4k is now marketed as ultra hd 8)
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 05, 2012 at 09:27 AM
4k is now marketed as ultra hd 8)

Not that marketable pa din wala pa 4k source
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: elim on Nov 05, 2012 at 09:59 AM
upscaling pa lang to 4k...
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: ndy on Nov 05, 2012 at 10:46 AM
Not that marketable pa din wala pa 4k source
yup wala pa kaya waiting mode tayo lahat:D  pag meron na sure ikaw mauuna:D
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 05, 2012 at 10:04 PM
yup wala pa kaya waiting mode tayo lahat:D  pag meron na sure ikaw mauuna:D

Ako mauuna mas madami jan mauuna kesa sa akin.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: zankuro on Dec 13, 2012 at 10:00 PM
TOSHIBA RZ1
Glasses-Free 3D TV  :o

http://www.regza-asia.com/product-features-rz1.html
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 13, 2012 at 10:02 PM
TOSHIBA RZ1
Glasses-Free 3D TV  :o

http://www.regza-asia.com/product-features-rz1.html

Ang tanung how much?
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: zankuro on Dec 13, 2012 at 10:06 PM
makikinood na lang ako sa milyonaryo kong kapitbahay >:D
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: DViant on Dec 14, 2012 at 06:01 AM
All 25 UHDTVs from Sony has been sold out locally. They were surprised that so many people wanted one at 1.2m a pop. Names you read in the newspapers got em.

Only way I know you can get 4K content is through a computer that can do 4K from a 4K video camera. There are BD players that upscale Blu-Ray video to 4K but it is like up-scaling DVD to 1080p.

4K's a great way to display your 8MP photos. :)
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: toys4geeks on Dec 14, 2012 at 06:23 AM
THen its likely an ego buy amongst friends,----


uy oh 4K, bulok ang 1080p

sige kuha ako nyan.

ay wala palang 4K content pa, di bale magkakaroon din yan in the future.(ngit ngit na sales talk ako) :)
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: roygee on Dec 14, 2012 at 06:35 AM
upto what screen maging noticeable ang diff ng 4K vs 1080 materials?
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Timithekid on Dec 14, 2012 at 07:17 AM
Iirc the smallest 4k size is 84".  So maybe thats the size where it becomes noticable.  The really rich ones may not like projectors because tv's are still more convenient.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Philander on Dec 14, 2012 at 07:50 AM
TOSHIBA RZ1
Glasses-Free 3D TV  :o

http://www.regza-asia.com/product-features-rz1.html

Availble at Abeson Php 499,000.00 SRP.
4K @ 55"
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: roygee on Dec 14, 2012 at 08:07 AM
Availble at Abeson Php 499,000.00 SRP.
4K @ 55"

waw, mala-kotse na ang presyo kahit at 55 inch pa lang.. similar prices when LCD's were 1st introduced..
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 14, 2012 at 08:09 AM
Iirc the smallest 4k size is 84".  So maybe thats the size where it becomes noticable.  The really rich ones may not like projectors because tv's are still more convenient.

Kaya si timimag PJ na yan.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: zankuro on Dec 15, 2012 at 09:52 PM
Ano kaya itatawag sa Disc ng 4k?  ::)
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Tavus on Dec 19, 2012 at 03:15 PM
looks lik korean manufacturers hare having ahard time making oled displays.

"A fundamental challenge for AMOLED TV remains manufacturing yield. Pilot production indicates that 55” AMOLED TV panel straight yield (without repair) is in single digits due to instability "

http://www.displaysearchblog.com/2012/12/korean-panel-makers-change-tv-priorities-oled-vs-4kx2k/ (http://www.displaysearchblog.com/2012/12/korean-panel-makers-change-tv-priorities-oled-vs-4kx2k/)
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: skooter on Dec 19, 2012 at 03:17 PM
the hobbit in imax hfr 3d has a 4k resolution..
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Tavus on Dec 27, 2012 at 10:49 AM
sony 4k tv is now on display at ansons. 1.2m!
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 27, 2012 at 11:37 AM
sony 4k tv is now on display at ansons. 1.2m!

Bibili na lanh ako kotse sa presyong ganyan. Oks na ako sa 1080p.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Courage on Dec 27, 2012 at 12:49 PM
Bibili na lanh ako kotse sa presyong ganyan. Oks na ako sa 1080p.

Kotse na naka 4K engine... para 4k pa rin he he he
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 31, 2012 at 03:33 PM
Eventually that will come down to 15T, so I can put it in my dingy room wall to wall like so...

(http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u677/alex_lim1/Untitled-1_zps85db0765.jpg)
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 31, 2012 at 04:03 PM
Kotse na naka 4K engine... para 4k pa rin he he he

Tama...

Eventually that will come down to 15T, so I can put it in my dingy room wall to wall like so...

(http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u677/alex_lim1/Untitled-1_zps85db0765.jpg)

Tapos 3D..
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: DViant on Jan 01, 2013 at 07:55 AM
waw, mala-kotse na ang presyo kahit at 55 inch pa lang.. similar prices when LCD's were 1st introduced..

That's almost 1,000 per inch!
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Tavus on Jan 01, 2013 at 10:40 AM
im waiting for tv's to become fold-able thin strips that you can stick on the wall like wall paper. As for now we can wait and dream on.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 01, 2013 at 02:06 PM
More likely, TV sporting 16k resolution as unveiled in a Japanese electronic exhibit early in 2012 will only be available from construction companies and hardware stores.   They will be 7-ft high and 12 ft long and around 5-inch thick and will take 20 people to install in your home as a modular wall divider. It will become part of the specs when building homes and offices.  :D
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Prometheus75 on Jan 01, 2013 at 02:59 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/Cali5556/20121217_133305_zps30d67c8e.jpg)

LG's 84" UltraHDTV on display at Ansons Makati... yours for a measly P849,990.

Overpriced talaga 'yang si Sony. Eto na lang ang sa akin, LOL
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 01, 2013 at 04:05 PM
I wouldn't really bother about the Sony brand.  Not only is it overpriced, it is d......

How Sony Is Turning into a Ghost in Japan and Around the World
Jake Adelstein and Nathalie-Kyoko Stucky    Nov 14, 2012 4:00 AM
For some people in Japan, Sony is already dead. The only question they have is how did Sony die, or who killed it, and how long will the spectre of Sony remain haunting Japan. It's a pessimistic view of the company but it's one reality in this island country.
http://kotaku.com/5960411/how-sony-is-turning-into-a-ghost-in-japan-and-around-the-world


Sony, A Dying Brand The Prognosis Is Not Good
By David Richards & BusinessWeek | Tuesday | 13/12/2011
Sony Australia boss Carl Rose has given little if any interview about the performance of his local operation during the past 18 months, and when he has, he has failed to talk about the serious problems Sony is facing.
Back in September 2000 when we were first planning the launch of SmartHouse Sony, was worth $100 billion It is now valued at only $18 billion and slipping.

http://smarthouse.com.au/TVs_And_Large_Display/Industry/N6T7S3U7


Sony Slips Further Into The Red, Clings To Dying Handheld Market
Friday, August 03, 2012 - by Joel Hruska
Sony is halfway through an ugly restructuring period as it seeks to cut costs, consolidate markets, and turn its once-mighty television business around. That's a difficult proposition for any company, but the Japanese giant's recent earnings call was gloomy even under these circumstances. Modest upticks in Imaging Products and Services and Pictures were offset by heavy declines in gaming, home entertainment, and music. The company reported a $314M loss for its first quarter of fiscal year 2012 and cut forecasts for a number of markets.
http://hothardware.com/News/Sony-Slips-Further-Into-The-Red-Clings-To-Dying-Handheld-Market/
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Regz_28 on Jan 10, 2013 at 01:36 PM
Sharing this article.

Sharp's IGZO technology...  8)

Samsung's new "multi-view" TV that let's two people watch two different shows at the same time - on one display!!! :o

LG's OLED displays, first in the market I believe, retail price at (hold your breath) $12,000 for a 55-in model... :P


http://www.rappler.com/life-and-style/19398-large,-smart-tvs-reign-at-ces
Title: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Frank Moses on Jan 11, 2013 at 12:56 PM
Subscribing :)
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 26, 2013 at 10:49 AM
It looks like there won't be any physical disc for 4K content.  It may be distributed through internet downloads.


From AVS Forums:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1450935/no-plans-for-new-4k-disc-format-sony



With all this 4K talk at CES this year and no one knows where the content will come from, everyone is asking themselves, how will the content be transmitted?

There's been some teasers from Samsung and Netflix but no real details have been announced yet.

After Sony announced plans on "Mastered in 4K Blu-Rays", Sony's CEO Kaz Hirai told The Verge the following:

Quote
A physical format might sound like a good stop-gap, but Kaz doesn’t think 4K distribution will go that way

What about downloads and bandwidth caps from service providers?

Quote
It might seem early for an internet-based 4K distribution platform given that even Sony admits the massive downloads might take days, but Sony does have some experience with 50GB downloads in the realm of PS3 game distribution. When speaking to us today, Kaz called the adaptation to these long download times a “journey” for consumers that will hopefully be eased eventually by fatter internet pipes to the home.

The Real plan for now:

Quote
“I think as the industry evolves 4K, [it] might decide that a disc format might be something that the consumers are looking for,” Kaz admitted to us. “But at this point, before we get into that sort of format, we’re looking for distribution through the network.”

says Hirai.


Also from:
New disc format for 4K content unlikely, says Sony CEO
Kaz Hirai points to digital distribution methods

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/385531/new-disc-format-for-4k-content-unlikely-says-sony-ceo/
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: toys4geeks on Jan 26, 2013 at 11:02 AM
Assuming materials is at the local player,  kelan mo ba makikita ang difference ng 4K at 1080p with the type if displays we have at home?

Is it a function of the viewing distance + the display size? And significant ba talaga ang difference PQ wise?

Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: barrister on Jan 26, 2013 at 11:22 AM
Why 4K TVs are stupid
There's all this buzz about 4K resolution. You don't need it, and probably never will.
by Geoffrey Morrison
January 26, 2012 2:46 PM PST
 
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57366319-221/why-4k-tvs-are-stupid/ (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57366319-221/why-4k-tvs-are-stupid/)
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: toys4geeks on Jan 26, 2013 at 12:11 PM
Why 4K TVs are stupid
There's all this buzz about 4K resolution. You don't need it, and probably never will.
by Geoffrey Morrison
January 26, 2012 2:46 PM PST
 
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57366319-221/why-4k-tvs-are-stupid/ (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57366319-221/why-4k-tvs-are-stupid/)

Yun na! thanks
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 26, 2013 at 12:18 PM
4K will allow HT-projector size displays under very bright lights - something a projector cannot nicely do.

and 4K will allow you to install really big displays within smaller confines.  You can kiss the monitor if you like.

Significant PQ difference compared with 1080p?  based on the 84" Sony 4K , Yes - from way up close to the maximum distance where PQ is optimum.


Assuming materials is at the local player,  kelan mo ba makikita ang difference ng 4K at 1080p with the type if displays we have at home?

Is it a function of the viewing distance + the display size? And significant ba talaga ang difference PQ wise?
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 26, 2013 at 12:25 PM
Why 4K TVs are stupid
There's all this buzz about 4K resolution. You don't need it, and probably never will.
by Geoffrey Morrison
January 26, 2012 2:46 PM PST
 
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57366319-221/why-4k-tvs-are-stupid/ (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57366319-221/why-4k-tvs-are-stupid/)

I think he meant the consumers. Or even the makers who will shove 4k to consumers. The technology is not stupid, it's the....
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: barrister on Jan 26, 2013 at 12:28 PM
and 4K will allow you to install really big displays within smaller confines.  You can kiss the monitor if you like.

Smaller confines?
 
If I had that much money and a small house, I wouldn't buy a 4K TV and sit up close.
 
I'd buy a bigger house.   ^-^
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: edboy7 on Jan 26, 2013 at 12:33 PM
Pang video production lang siguro muna 4k resolution tvs  na yan ...I guess directiors/producers will benefit from it....dami na yatang  production companies filming on  2k to 4k resolution ....medyo madugo  nga lang ang storage hehehehe
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: barrister on Jan 26, 2013 at 12:42 PM
Digital Cinemas nga sa Pilipinas 2K lang (2048×1080), OK lang sa moviegoers.  4K for the home pa?
 
 
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Tempter on Jan 26, 2013 at 01:58 PM
Who needs 4K? Not me ;D

I rather enjoy the movie than nitpicking pixels...  O0
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: edboy7 on Jan 26, 2013 at 02:28 PM
dapat talaga a source which can contain say a  4k master to maximize a 4k resolution monitor ....kung 1080p lang...eeeehhhhhhhhhhhh :) ...pwede siguro kung X art yung movie hahahahahaha JK :D
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 26, 2013 at 03:23 PM
Perfect for very rich Japan and Hongkong and Singapore and even in the EU.

Eventually, dapat lang maging affordable sa mainstream ang 4K or 8K or ....K para pati mahihirap with small house can have a 4K TV that is bigger than what they're using right now.

Smaller confines?

Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 26, 2013 at 04:31 PM
Perfect for very rich Japan and Hongkong and Singapore and even in the EU.

Eventually, dapat lang maging affordable sa mainstream ang 4K or 8K or ....K para pati mahihirap with small house can have a 4K TV that is bigger than what they're using right now.


Something like this
(http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u677/alex_lim1/Untitled-1_zps85db0765.jpg)
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 26, 2013 at 05:04 PM
The demo set-up at Bic Ginza of the 84" Sony 4K actually looks very similar to that in terms of distance.

Eh ang lalaki naman kasi ng mga bahay sa US and ng mga PDVD members eh.   ;)  Kaya nga ayon sa isang post na nabasa ko recently in another thread, kapag mayaman ka daw dapat 720p TV.   ;D ;D ;D.  May pag-asa ba talaga Pilipinas kung 720p pa rin isip ng mga tao sa panahong eto?   ;D

Something like this
(http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u677/alex_lim1/Untitled-1_zps85db0765.jpg)
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: barrister on Jan 27, 2013 at 12:29 AM
Eh ang lalaki naman kasi ng mga bahay sa US and ng mga PDVD members eh.   ;)  Kaya nga ayon sa isang post na nabasa ko recently in another thread, kapag mayaman ka daw dapat 720p TV.   ;D ;D ;D . 

Iba na ngayon ang 720p plasma e. 
 
Noon Ok lang ang 720p plasma from 10 feet away, or even 6 feet away.  Pero ngayon, sa bagong plasma models, pumangit ang 720p --- lumaki ang interpixel spaces, at lumiit naman ang individual pixels.  Ang Panny 720p plasma ang the worst, pinakamalaki ang interpixel spaces, halata kahit 10 feet away.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: odyopayl on Jan 27, 2013 at 07:44 AM
Lets face it, this is the future! This is the new generation Display. Wait for the 4K Source!
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: edboy7 on Jan 27, 2013 at 04:08 PM
let's face it talaga...till the 4k source arrives..siguro kung magkaron na ng prosumer  video cam  with  4k resolution  with a 50TB(SSD?) internal drive on it..... for starters hehehehehe  kailan kaya yun? so for the mintaym 1080p muna ako. nitpicking on freckles hahahaha
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jan 27, 2013 at 04:20 PM
let's face it talaga...till the 4k source arrives..siguro kung magkaron na ng prosumer  video cam  with  4k resolution  with a 50TB(SSD?) internal drive on it..... for starters hehehehehe  kailan kaya yun? so for the mintaym 1080p muna ako. nitpicking on freckles hahahaha

Tama 1080p muna enjoy muna natin.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 27, 2013 at 04:25 PM
dapat talaga a source which can contain say a  4k master to maximize a 4k resolution monitor ....kung 1080p lang...eeeehhhhhhhhhhhh :) ...pwede siguro kung X art yung movie hahahahahaha JK :D

Sony already hinted that 4k source may not be a disc, but via online downloads.

let's face it talaga...till the 4k source arrives..siguro kung magkaron na ng prosumer  video cam  with  4k resolution  with a 50TB(SSD?) internal drive on it..... for starters hehehehehe  kailan kaya yun? so for the mintaym 1080p muna ako. nitpicking on freckles hahahaha

Meron nang 4k videocam from JVC 2011 pa.  $2T lang.
http://www.eoshd.com/content/498/meet-the-prosumer-camcorder-which-is-4k-for-2k

Meron na rin Canon EOS-1D na 4K that debuted last. 
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/04/12/Canon-EOS-1D-C-4K-capable-DSLR
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: edboy7 on Jan 27, 2013 at 04:37 PM
Sony already hinted that 4k source may not be a disc, but via online downloads.

yaman sa bandwidth ha....next up is a stand alone 4k player perhaps? ..hint pls :)
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 27, 2013 at 04:40 PM
yaman sa bandwidth ha....next up is a stand alone 4k player perhaps? ..hint pls :)

Software na lang ang player.

Virgin Media in the UK already sells 100Mbps broadband package so Britons can download a 100GB 4k video in just a 2-3 hours.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: toys4geeks on Jan 27, 2013 at 04:44 PM
Tama 1080p muna enjoy muna natin.

Hala! So 160gb / Iso yan hahahaa
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: edboy7 on Jan 27, 2013 at 04:45 PM
Software na lang yan

i'm sure  Sony's techie/marketing guys will come up of something .....they'll give us a hint on it as well 
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: raptor on Jan 27, 2013 at 05:18 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/Cali5556/20121217_133305_zps30d67c8e.jpg)

LG's 84" UltraHDTV on display at Ansons Makati... yours for a measly P849,990.

Overpriced talaga 'yang si Sony. Eto na lang ang sa akin, LOL

at this price dapat parang kotse na yung installment at may comprehensive insurance na dapat :)
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 27, 2013 at 06:31 PM
You'd be lucky if they serve you coffee while they process your purchase.

If not mistaken, the first plasma TV that went on sale were in the same price range.  Could be more if adjusted for inflation. And it was just 720p.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: joko11 on Jan 28, 2013 at 12:03 AM
i'm sure  Sony's techie/marketing guys will come up of something .....they'll give us a hint on it as well 
when it will be done? i read somewhere sony is considered a dead company
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 28, 2013 at 07:37 AM
when it will be done? i read somewhere sony is considered a dead company

Not yet, it's just bleeding to death. But it still has a lot cash to survive a few more years during which it may still be revived if the PS4 becomes a success.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Stagea on Jan 28, 2013 at 08:04 AM
Not yet, it's just bleeding to death. But it still has a lot cash to survive a few more years during which it may still be revived if the PS4 becomes a success.

I heard they're now pushing harder to turnaround their mobile device business, as this is potentially a bigger market than the game console business. They're really envious of Apple's and Samsung's profitability in this segment.

Digital imaging is also one of their recent drives, as Canon and Nikon are showing increased profits in this sphere.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jan 28, 2013 at 08:05 AM
Sony already hinted that 4k source may not be a disc, but via online downloads.

Meron nang 4k videocam from JVC 2011 pa.  $2T lang.
http://www.eoshd.com/content/498/meet-the-prosumer-camcorder-which-is-4k-for-2k

Meron na rin Canon EOS-1D na 4K that debuted last. 
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/04/12/Canon-EOS-1D-C-4K-capable-DSLR


Patay tayo jan sa online download na yan lets say 100GB for 3mbps @ 4days 1080p pa din ako.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Jerricson098 on Jan 28, 2013 at 08:12 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/Cali5556/20121217_133305_zps30d67c8e.jpg)

LG's 84" UltraHDTV on display at Ansons Makati... yours for a measly P849,990.

Overpriced talaga 'yang si Sony. Eto na lang ang sa akin, LOL

Grabe, ang mahal. Parang bumili na rin ako ng kotse.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: odyopayl on Jan 28, 2013 at 08:23 AM
You'd be lucky if they serve you coffee while they process your purchase.

If not mistaken, the first plasma TV that went on sale were in the same price range.  Could be more if adjusted for inflation. And it was just 720p.
You are absolutely right! I bought my first 42" Plasma for 140K  (2006)
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 28, 2013 at 08:50 AM
Patay tayo jan sa online download na yan lets say 100GB for 3mbps @ 4days 1080p pa din ako.


Kawawa talaga mga Pinoy if that happens with our pathetic broadband speeds.  But not so in the UK where consumers using Virgin Media's 100Mbps package averages 86mbps download speeds, for only the equivalent of less than P3T a month.   Also in Japan, Singapore and S Korea, just to mention a few. 
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: abcerase on Jan 28, 2013 at 10:55 AM
Grabe, ang mahal. Parang bumili na rin ako ng kotse.

I saw this as well, last night, sa Trinoma. For cash transactions, 600k (whew!) For my eyes, 4k is like the screen of the rMBP (retina macbookpro).

The sales man said that there are only 5 so far who were able to purchase this. The first one? Mr. Hayden Kho last December :)
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: edboy7 on Jan 28, 2013 at 12:40 PM
I saw this as well, last night, sa Trinoma. For cash transactions, 600k (whew!) For my eyes, 4k is like the screen of the rMBP (retina macbookpro).

The sales man said that there are only 5 so far who were able to purchase this. The first one? Mr. Hayden Kho last December :)

Hayden Kho....naglevel na mga Home movies niya siguro hehehehe....Btw PLDT in now connecting fiberhome lines in our area

Me: Boss fiber yan no?
Lineman...opo sir
me: e sino yang mga sinkit na kasama nyo? Koreano ba yan?
Lineman: ....Hindi sir mga Chinese yan ...undersupervision kami ng mga yan...pero kami client nila.( sabay kabit ulit ng cable) hehehehe....

4k downloads on the horizon! :) ....question....how much kaya per download hehehe
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 28, 2013 at 01:03 PM
Panasonic reveals 20-inch, 4K resolution Windows 8 tablet
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/08/panasonic-reveals-20-inch-4k-resolution-windows-8-tablet/
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2013/01/panasonic4ktablet-01.jpg)
Ang laking tableta o. 
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 28, 2013 at 01:04 PM

4k downloads on the horizon! :) ....question....how much kaya per download hehehe

Free pa rin sa torrents  ;D
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: edboy7 on Jan 28, 2013 at 01:14 PM
torrents? Sony mismo maglalagay dun?  ;D ;D ;D ;D What the...... >:D
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jan 28, 2013 at 01:22 PM
torrents? Sony mismo maglalagay dun?  ;D ;D ;D ;D What the...... >:D

Iba yung sa sony iba yung sa torrent AFAIK. Siyempre pag sony may bayad na ung download pero sa torrent free pero for a 100GB 1080p na lang ako.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 28, 2013 at 02:24 PM
This is just plain nonsense to me.

1.  20 inch for a tablet is too big to lug around, and too big to fit in a regular business bag...puede sa stroller or bayong.
2.  20 inch is too small for 4K.    Gawin nalang nilang mala Retina Display ang quality ng texts (does that need 4K rez?)

But I wouldnt mind having one for free...and kung mura.

Panasonic reveals 20-inch, 4K resolution Windows 8 tablet
Ang laking tableta o. 
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 28, 2013 at 02:37 PM
Same same as iTunes eventually.  Ang daming Web DL in P2P  sites which I suppose were originally purchased from iTunes.  Big question is, how can they stream 4K at full bitrate - or even half - or even a quarter?  Right now, iTunes is streaming at around 4000-6000 kbps at 1080p...that's not even a quarter of Full 1080p BD's bitrate.

Baka naman ang ganda pa rin lalabas ng 4K at 4000-6000 kbps? - that would be around 10-16GB in my reckoning.


Iba yung sa sony iba yung sa torrent AFAIK. Siyempre pag sony may bayad na ung download pero sa torrent free pero for a 100GB 1080p na lang ako.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 28, 2013 at 03:02 PM
Gawin nalang nilang mala Retina Display ang quality ng texts (does that need 4K rez?)


Yes.  A retina display is supposed to match the ability of the human eye with 20/20 vision to resolve details up close.  And if not mistaken, this involves around 320 ppi (pixels per inch) or pixel density - the true measure of resolution. Some say it should around 440ppi so you can see no pixels even at 1 ft viewing distance.  iPhone 5 only has a 4-inch display with an 1136 x 640 resolution that yields a magnificent 326ppi.  In contrast, a 42-inch TV with 1080p resolution is only around 60ppi.  A 20-inch TV with 1080p has 110ppi.  Ergo, a 20-incher would need to have at least 4k (3820 x 2160) to yield 216ppi, which matches the 220ppi retina display on the 15-inch MacBook Pro.

Formula for ppi is simple it's just the square root of the sum of the squared length and width indicated in a resolution.  Then divide this by the screen size.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 28, 2013 at 03:08 PM
Same same as iTunes eventually.  Ang daming Web DL in P2P  sites which I suppose were originally purchased from iTunes.  Big question is, how can they stream 4K at full bitrate - or even half - or even a quarter?  Right now, iTunes is streaming at around 4000-6000 kbps at 1080p...that's not even a quarter of Full 1080p BD's bitrate.

Baka naman ang ganda pa rin lalabas ng 4K at 4000-6000 kbps? - that would be around 10-16GB in my reckoning.




1080p movies with file sizes of 10-12GB are already fine.  I can imagine 4k movies at around 20GB to be just as good. 
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Stagea on Jan 28, 2013 at 04:06 PM
Some say it should around 440ppi so you can see no pixels even at 1 ft viewing distance.

That's what the new Full HD phones are hitting now.

1080p movies with file sizes of 10-12GB are already fine.  I can imagine 4k movies at around 20GB to be just as good. 

I think it's very possible with HEVC.

Perhaps they'd make the movies available in different bitrates.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 28, 2013 at 04:13 PM
Ayun approved na pala ang H.265 standard.  Since half (DAW) the bitrate ng H.264, instead of approx. 4x the size of 1080p, 2x nalang for a 4K encode.   ;)
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: barrister on Jan 28, 2013 at 04:43 PM
The sales man said that there are only 5 so far who were able to purchase this. The first one? Mr. Hayden Kho last December :)

Grabe ang lakas gumastos ni kups ...  ^-^
 
Baka 4K na ang hidden camera niya, papanoorin yung video file sa 4K TV...  >:D   
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Prometheus75 on Jan 28, 2013 at 05:25 PM
The sales man said that there are only 5 so far who were able to purchase this. The first one? Mr. Hayden Kho last December :)

For ultra-definition "home video" viewing. Eheh :P
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: edboy7 on Jan 28, 2013 at 06:44 PM
basta dapat 4k video file downloads should be at full bit rate..as 1:1 or 4:4:4 not 4:2:2 ...paging Hayden Kho ay este Sony pala  ;D ;D
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 31, 2013 at 08:30 AM

Perhaps they'd make the movies available in different bitrates.

That would socialize the pricing scheme, if sold at different prices. 
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 02, 2013 at 09:18 AM
It looks like Sony will only make available its Sony Pictures/Columbia Tri-Star catalogue on 4K to purchasers of Sony UHDTVs.  Desperate to boost its dying TV business, Sony will now use its movie making muscle as a competitive tool.

"Asked by reporters if Sony planned to extend the 4K delivery service to TV sets from competitors, Hirai said that might happen eventually, but it would initially be restricted to Sony TVs."

http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=1813A7DB-9D0A-EBA2-EBCA2832EA1CCD32

Implication:  If you bought a Panasonic or Samsung UHDTV, you can't watch 4k home video versions of future James Bond iterations, Spider-man, Men In Black, Resident Evil, Underworld, etc.   And since Sony Pictures also has full distribution rights to MGM home video products, you can make a guess.  Now don't ask me how long is "initial."
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: edboy7 on Feb 02, 2013 at 12:27 PM
sabi ko na nga ba e......Sony pa! hahahahahaha
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 03, 2013 at 07:09 AM
If not mistaken, of all the CE brands,  only Sony has the affiliate that produces content (movie business).  Will see how this can be leveraged to bring Sony out of junk status.  It can either do so or further alienate its markets.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Prometheus75 on Feb 03, 2013 at 10:32 AM
^
If Sony prices it's UDTVs way too higher than the competition's, basically strong arming consumers into buying its products, the I say alienate >:(
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 03, 2013 at 11:03 AM
Sony HDTV sets have always been priced higher than its competitors.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Tavus on Feb 03, 2013 at 11:14 AM
This is just plain nonsense to me.

1.  20 inch for a tablet is too big to lug around, and too big to fit in a regular business bag...puede sa stroller or bayong.
2.  20 inch is too small for 4K.    Gawin nalang nilang mala Retina Display ang quality ng texts (does that need 4K rez?)

But I wouldnt mind having one for free...and kung mura.


you can say the same for ipad 3. it worked for a small 9 inch screen. Picture quality of the ipad 3 looks a lot sharper. Ipad 3 resolution is 2,048 by 1,536. Half more then the out going ipad 2 which was 1080p and this is on a 9 inch screen.
the only ussie with pannys pad is battery life.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: inan2151 on Mar 17, 2013 at 01:39 PM
HDTV's are pricey, as of now. I believe that the number of people willing to procure the same today is still small. Nonetheless, i'm, sure that the prices will go down in 5-7 years.
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Post by: the_w0rks on Mar 17, 2013 at 02:47 PM
HDTV's are pricey, as of now. I believe that the number of people willing to procure the same today is still small. Nonetheless, i'm, sure that the prices will go down in 5-7 years.

Hdtvs have never been cheaper than now. Most people are simply contented with crt tvs but once their eyes get opened with HD quality, im sure they would want one. Affordable na lang hdtvs these days
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: inan2151 on Mar 17, 2013 at 03:23 PM
Hdtvs have never been cheaper than now. Most people are simply contented with crt tvs but once their eyes get opened with HD quality, im sure they would want one. Affordable na lang hdtvs these days

Thanks. I stand corrected. I was referring to ultra HDTV's which are pricey. HDTV's, on the other hand, are very much affordable nowadays. When I bought my sony 32" lcd tv in 2008, it cost around 50T and it is not yet full HD. There are 32" hdtv's w/c cost less than half of the cost in 2008.   
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: hitman531ph on Mar 25, 2013 at 02:35 PM
4K.  Kinda big.  Not good for small rooms or areas.  As of this time, there are no media supporting 4K.  Yet.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: hitman531ph on Apr 05, 2013 at 02:23 PM
Sony Pictures Television now shooting on UHD.  Sony Pictures to remaster their movies to UHD.

http://advanced-television.com/2013/02/01/sony-re-masters-content-in-4k/

Would that be in Blu-Ray?  Would that be also available on DVD?  That remains to be seen.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: the_w0rks on Apr 05, 2013 at 02:52 PM
"...the output will emerge on suitable 4K packaged Blu-ray media, labelled as ‘Mastered in 4K’. While no 4K Blu-ray players exist today, Sony suggests that the content will provide the “best possible picture” when up-converted to Ultra-HDTV displays."

Blu-ray lives.haha
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Stagea on Apr 05, 2013 at 03:43 PM
"...the output will emerge on suitable 4K packaged Blu-ray media, labelled as ‘Mastered in 4K’. While no 4K Blu-ray players exist today, Sony suggests that the content will provide the “best possible picture” when up-converted to Ultra-HDTV displays."

Blu-ray lives.haha

They're still 1080P though, just mastered in 4K (with matching misguiding labels). Very much like those "audiophile" CDs that claim to be mastered at high sampling rates and bit depths.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Tempter on Apr 05, 2013 at 03:47 PM
They're still 1080P though, just mastered in 4K (with matching misguiding labels). Very much like those "audiophile" CDs that claim to be mastered at high sampling rates and bit depths.

Agreed.

The output is still as good as the source... ;D ...or as bad hehe!
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: the_w0rks on Apr 05, 2013 at 04:22 PM
They're still 1080P though, just mastered in 4K (with matching misguiding labels). Very much like those "audiophile" CDs that claim to be mastered at high sampling rates and bit depths.

yep. i cant remember if it was here or on bluray.com where I said that Sony is just fooling people by putting "4k Mastered" on their upcoming releases. Misleading talaga para di nakakaalam. But still should be slightly better than non-4k mastered blus.

But what's confusing is the article.  It makes mention of "suitable 4k packaged blu-ray media". So...this won't be the 50gb blus that's currently available? hmm...
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Stagea on Apr 05, 2013 at 04:28 PM
But what's confusing is the article.  It makes mention of "suitable 4k packaged blu-ray media". So...this won't be the 50gb blus that's currently available? hmm...

I think it's the same, but with 4K badging.
(http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/artman2/uploads/4/mastered4K_Bluray.jpg)
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: joko11 on Apr 06, 2013 at 04:58 AM
I think it's the same, but with 4K badging.
(http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/artman2/uploads/4/mastered4K_Bluray.jpg)
maraming naniniwala na yung 10gb more or less file size hd movie e 1080 basta nabasa nila 1080 ang file name..
sigurado maraming mauuto si sony sa bago nilang pakulo 
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Post by: the_w0rks on Apr 06, 2013 at 12:44 PM
maraming naniniwala na yung 10gb more or less file size hd movie e 1080 basta nabasa nila 1080 ang file name..
sigurado maraming mauuto si sony sa bago nilang pakulo
sigurado yan
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 06, 2013 at 12:56 PM
maraming naniniwala na yung 10gb more or less file size hd movie e 1080 basta nabasa nila 1080 ang file name..
sigurado maraming mauuto si sony sa bago nilang pakulo 

 >:D >:D

sigurado yan

 ;) ;)
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Tavus on Apr 13, 2013 at 10:35 PM
Here's one thing you guys need to know about the 4k now. Hdmi 1.4 does NOT support all 4k content like high frame rates. Example sports game which many are filmed in 60 FPS, its not compatible with hdmi 1.4.
You'll have to wait for hdmi 2.0 for that feature of 4k.
final specs fro hdmi 2.0 will be mid 2013 and the first device compatible with it will come next year.

if you think your stuff is future proof, think again, its not. This thing will happen once 8k comes on a  decade from now.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: skooter on Apr 13, 2013 at 10:57 PM
lol...sony is not fooling around folks..they know what are they doin mapping out the market for 4k tech., some folks around here are just envy about this technology coz they felt there are left behind..that's why some of this folks around here tried to flag u down about this 4k tech. lol.....
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Tavus on Apr 14, 2013 at 12:09 AM
I'm not trying to down play 4k tech. Im pointing out the little tricks that av companies do to earn a quick peso. they claim to advertize that there 4k ready but its missing some important features. its a little dishonest.
my opinion is wait for hdmi 2.0 before you buy 4k ready receivers.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: skooter on Apr 14, 2013 at 07:32 PM
HDMI 1.4 is already 4k capable.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Tavus on Apr 14, 2013 at 09:41 PM
HDMI 1.4 is already 4k capable.
Never said 1.4 cant do 4k. NOT support "ALL" all in quotes
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: DViant on Apr 15, 2013 at 12:47 AM
Cant wait for the 4K-capable consoles to come out.

Ideally I'd get a Xbox 720 or PS4 after their first price cut with a 4K TV.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: skooter on Apr 15, 2013 at 02:16 PM
i think there's no big deal w/that sir, anyway most of the films in a bluray disc are natively encoded at 24fps even the hobbit bluray release is only encoded in 24fps. Now. how about those HFR(60fps) materials such as sports as you say? well those materials as provided by our STB boxes(Cignal, Sky etc..) are only transmitted in 1080i resolution so our good old 1.4 HDMI interface is still top of the game.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Tavus on Apr 16, 2013 at 10:43 AM
i think there's no big deal w/that sir, anyway most of the films in a bluray disc are natively encoded at 24fps even the hobbit bluray release is only encoded in 24fps. Now. how about those HFR(60fps) materials such as sports as you say? well those materials as provided by our STB boxes(Cignal, Sky etc..) are only transmitted in 1080i resolution so our good old 1.4 HDMI interface is still top of the game.
http://www.hdmi.org/press/press_release.aspx?prid=101 (http://www.hdmi.org/press/press_release.aspx?prid=101)
notice this:
        3840x2160 24Hz/25Hz/30Hz
        4096x2160 24Hz
We are talking about 4k content and fast frame rates and you seemed to have jumped to 1080i and cignal broadcast.
 It will matter later as, there will be 24fps 4K blu-rays but there will also be 48fps and 60fps blu-rays both the latter will not work with the current hdmi spec and that is subject to the newest revision of hdmi 2.0.
Hobbit 3d  and Avatar 2 was and will be relased in 48fps in the US. Just wait most content will be in 4k.
I guess my point is ost hardware isnt future proof.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: namruk on Sep 06, 2013 at 08:49 PM
All movies if watch in 4K will be upscaled so i think theres no worries. Cant wait for the Skyworth to release their 4K UHD tvs price starting 1400$, might be skyworth will be the the cheapest 4k tv for me : )
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: bhenard on Jan 13, 2014 at 09:04 AM
an endless technology :)
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: espionage on Jan 14, 2014 at 10:38 AM
an endless technology :)
+100 @ endless upgradetitist!
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: wijo on Jan 14, 2014 at 06:34 PM
So is it not worth it to get the Samsung UA55F9000?

http://www.samsung.com/sa_en/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/uhd-tv/UA55F9000ARXZN
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: ayosbathere on Feb 20, 2014 at 11:22 AM
what will be the benefits for having 4K or UHD TV with 1080p, 1080i data source/broadcast ?
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: XanderCage on Feb 28, 2014 at 04:25 AM
same with 1080p tv with 720p or lower source.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: jackryan on Apr 28, 2014 at 04:12 PM
I was under the impression that the advantage of the Ultra HDTV panels is that it can show very small characters on screen (or portion of the screen) like a football match / basketball game.

Due to higher density of pixels, the small characters are still discernable...
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: AC on Apr 30, 2014 at 01:49 PM
my dad wants to buy a new tv for the livingroom... gusto ko din... i saw some big good priced tv... pero 1080p... we use our tv for a long long time.. nanhinayang ako bumili knowing.. 4k na ang latest.. and wala pa dito saatin... :(

bababa kaya prices ng 1080p pag naging common na saatin ang 4k?
ok lang sakin bumili 1080p... if mababa sana ng malayo sa latest..

went abroad.. puros 4k nakadisplay sakanila eh..
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: disturbed on Apr 30, 2014 at 01:51 PM
i think ok naman 1080p sir..prob sa 4k display sir is ung content for 4k tvs..kung gusto mo ng 4k tv sir..dapat bili din kayo player/adapter or equipment that will upscale to 4k
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: mykel18 on Apr 30, 2014 at 01:57 PM
4K TV's are already here in our shores. Pricey pa nga lang and as sir disturbed said, content ang problema since very few ang available pati players halos wala.  ^-^
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: AC on Apr 30, 2014 at 02:19 PM
thanks... oonga e.. yung lg.. ang mahal.. hehe

thanks guys...
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: ABCmotorparts on May 11, 2014 at 08:51 PM
Nagsisimula ng bumaba ang prices dito, from the $5000 range before, nasa $3500 na lang ang mga 65"
and the trend is pababa pa rin, I'm gonna wait a few more months then upgrade ako sa 65 or 70,...
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Stagea on Jun 17, 2014 at 06:55 AM
Large 4K units can now fall below the $1000 threshold:
http://www.amazon.com/Seiki-SE65UY04-65-Inch-Ultra-120Hz/dp/B00FJPO5O8/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1402959184 (http://www.amazon.com/Seiki-SE65UY04-65-Inch-Ultra-120Hz/dp/B00FJPO5O8/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1402959184)
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: toys4geeks on Jun 17, 2014 at 08:13 AM
Large 4K units can now fall below the $1000 threshold:
http://www.amazon.com/Seiki-SE65UY04-65-Inch-Ultra-120Hz/dp/B00FJPO5O8/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1402959184 (http://www.amazon.com/Seiki-SE65UY04-65-Inch-Ultra-120Hz/dp/B00FJPO5O8/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1402959184)

wow! 65" 4k @ $999. may pagasa pa pala akong mag upgrade next year.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: jjohnc on Jun 17, 2014 at 09:17 AM
yup bumaba-baba na...waiting ako sa 90"++ as upgrade :) :) :)
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: AC on Jun 17, 2014 at 09:44 AM
wow 1t$ 65" 4k...
i dont need the 4k "yet" hehe... pero papatulan ko yan.. pag meron dito.. hehe
is seiki a good brand? bumili si robert heron(sikat yata sa tv calibration + online hdnation tv host).. 50inch version yata..
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Stagea on Jun 17, 2014 at 12:54 PM
wow 1t$ 65" 4k...
i dont need the 4k "yet" hehe... pero papatulan ko yan.. pag meron dito.. hehe
is seiki a good brand? bumili si robert heron(sikat yata sa tv calibration + online hdnation tv host).. 50inch version yata..

I don't think it will compete with the big brands, but it's very cheap for a 4K TV. It costs less than the 1080p models from Samsung or LG.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: benzng on Jun 23, 2014 at 10:29 AM
tempting buy. still waiting for sony prices to reach that level. hehehe
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Stagea on Jun 23, 2014 at 01:32 PM
4K OLED would be great once we can start to afford them... LOL.
(http://www.digitaltrends.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/LG105.jpg)

OLED's true beauty can only be seen in person as most cameras and displays cannot deliver that level of dynamic range.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: DTNS on Jun 23, 2014 at 06:26 PM
true 4K res pjs from Sony, now locally available!  :o
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,174093.90/topicseen.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,174093.90/topicseen.html)
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: anya618 on Jul 01, 2014 at 09:48 AM
Large 4K units can now fall below the $1000 threshold:
http://www.amazon.com/Seiki-SE65UY04-65-Inch-Ultra-120Hz/dp/B00FJPO5O8/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1402959184 (http://www.amazon.com/Seiki-SE65UY04-65-Inch-Ultra-120Hz/dp/B00FJPO5O8/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1402959184)

yung 55" nito $580 sa walmart

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Seiki-SE55UY04-55-4K-UHD-2160p-120Hz-LED-HDTV-4K-x-2K/35030328?affillinktype=10&dest=9999999997&oid=100143.1&sourceid=19427990902805857088&u1=6e2b543269e1460d83bde13a9d59b65e&veh=aff&wmlspartner=lw9MynSeamY

kaso di kaya pangit colors ng mga unknown brands? baka yung 4k sa unknown brands kapareho lang ng kulay ng full hd ng known brands?
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jul 01, 2014 at 10:21 AM
Looked all around Yodobashi in Akihabara yesterday for 4k TV's. Cheapest was at  about ¥220k or about 95k.

The best part about the place was the capability to do side by side comparisons. There were dozens of 4k TV's to choose from.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Stagea on Jul 01, 2014 at 10:24 AM
yung 55" nito $580 sa walmart

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Seiki-SE55UY04-55-4K-UHD-2160p-120Hz-LED-HDTV-4K-x-2K/35030328?affillinktype=10&dest=9999999997&oid=100143.1&sourceid=19427990902805857088&u1=6e2b543269e1460d83bde13a9d59b65e&veh=aff&wmlspartner=lw9MynSeamY

kaso di kaya pangit colors ng mga unknown brands? baka yung 4k sa unknown brands kapareho lang ng kulay ng full hd ng known brands?

Color rendition and contrast of this model is worse than good Full HD models from the big brands. Pixel count and size ang main advantage nya, together with price.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: anya618 on Jul 01, 2014 at 10:26 AM
Color rendition and contrast of this model is worse than good Full HD models from the big brands. Pixel count and size ang main advantage nya, together with price.

would you recommend getting unknown 4k tvs? or stick to full hd known brands?
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: vladimireury on Jul 01, 2014 at 10:26 AM
http://www.mi.com/mitv

I'l have to wait this 4K LED TV to hit locally. Hope they can bring this one these year. i love the design and the specs plus soundbar and a subwoofer. for only 28t ano pa bang hahanapin mo upgrade kaagad.hehehe
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Lancito on Jul 01, 2014 at 10:31 AM
4K OLED would be great once we can start to afford them... LOL.
(http://www.digitaltrends.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/LG105.jpg)

OLED's true beauty can only be seen in person as most cameras and displays cannot deliver that level of dynamic range.

This is nice.  Sana abot kaya.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Stagea on Jul 01, 2014 at 01:44 PM
would you recommend getting unknown 4k tvs? or stick to full hd known brands?

I'd stick with known brands except for maybe casual PC monitor use (where I truly appreciate 4Kp60). The unknown brands will apply price pressure to the name brands, so the name brand 4k prices will go down over time.

We're starting to see this with name brand 55" 4K TVs selling well below 100k. With our terrible internet speeds and low 4K TV penetration, 4k material would likely take some time to get here. In the US, 4K streaming providers generally require a consistent 15Mbps connection or higher. As for 4K broadcast, the World Cup can be seen in 4K in select countries (the upcoming Asian Games will also be in 4K).

4K cameras are getting cheaper too. Decent ones for casual stills and videos sell for less than $900 (DMC-FZ1000). Sample video below (select 2160p if you're on a 4K display):
http://youtu.be/lm3ULX-v04A (http://youtu.be/lm3ULX-v04A)
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: reclamation on Aug 04, 2014 at 12:29 PM
Hi PDVD,

I have questions, hope you can help me.
If i have Bluray Player that can upscale to 4k, then my Receiver is also 4k ready,
so it means i can appreciate the 4k resolution if i have UHD tv? sorry guys just asking.
or do i also need 4k movies or 60fps movie?
or is it possible to upscale a blu ray movie 1080p 24fps to 4k via Blu ray 4k capable player to LED tv?

Sorry mga sir, medyo nalilito lang ako

Salamat po sa sirs/mam
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: jas on Sep 06, 2014 at 09:01 AM
4K Blu-ray Confirmed, Coming in Late 2015:

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=14923
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Toslink on Sep 14, 2014 at 07:55 AM
FYI - got myself 79" LG UHDTV and Skycable's hd digibox' doesn't work through hdmi (all port - no signal) and component connection! (unknown format) :( ... sa standard composite video lang pwede (SD @ 480i)... sabi nga "garbage in-garbage out" @480i upscaled to 4k resolution totally crap!!! ... so... no telenovela, no showbiz news for my wife (yehey!!)... exclusive na ung uhdtv for movies only!!! :)
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: DTNS on Sep 14, 2014 at 08:31 AM
FYI - got myself 79" LG UHDTV and Skycable's hd digibox' doesn't work through hdmi (all port - no signal) and component connection! (unknown format) :( ... sa standard composite video lang pwede (SD @ 480i)... sabi nga "garbage in-garbage out" @480i upscaled to 4k resolution totally crap!!! ... so... no telenovela, no showbiz news for my wife (yehey!!)... exclusive na ung uhdtv for movies only!!! :)

hook up an htpc with 4K resolution support! ;)
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: xgh0st12x on Sep 14, 2014 at 08:40 AM
The 50 inch TCL models ive been seeing in abensons branches are pretty tempting. Anyonle else see this model or have anyfeedback about it. So far ang pintas ko pa lang sa kanya is only 2 hdmi inputs.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: odyopayl on Sep 14, 2014 at 08:58 AM
4K TV and 4K Movies in 2015 Yipeeeee! Goodbye to Upscaling .........
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: louiep on Sep 14, 2014 at 12:29 PM
FYI - got myself 79" LG UHDTV and Skycable's hd digibox' doesn't work through hdmi (all port - no signal) and component connection! (unknown format) :( ... sa standard composite video lang pwede (SD @ 480i)... sabi nga "garbage in-garbage out" @480i upscaled to 4k resolution totally crap!!! ... so... no telenovela, no showbiz news for my wife (yehey!!)... exclusive na ung uhdtv for movies only!!! :)

My skycable hd digibox is hooked up to a Sony X9004A thru Hdmi, 1080i signal. Maybe check your LGs settings? Hope you get your hd box running. That's a nice tv.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Toslink on Sep 14, 2014 at 02:28 PM
My skycable hd digibox is hooked up to a Sony X9004A thru Hdmi, 1080i signal. Maybe check your LGs settings? Hope you get your hd box running. That's a nice tv.

according to LG tech lahat daw ng 2014 4k TVs nila same results - even Cignal tv gnun din "daw"... maybe defective hdmi board? Nooooooooooo!!!!... i'll check with their customer support if this s true... tnx 
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: louiep on Sep 14, 2014 at 08:59 PM
Yup have it checked, hope they're not just giving you the run around BS. So all 2014 4k TVs cant use an HD box? My bros 2 yr old samsung lcd tv had a defective hdmi port(2 of 4 not working) Na reject din yung sky hd digibox niya.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: xgh0st12x on Sep 14, 2014 at 10:09 PM
Toslink do you have an av receiver? Have you tried passing through the signal of your STB through your receiver then onto the tv?
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: raptor on Sep 15, 2014 at 06:36 AM
according to LG tech lahat daw ng 2014 4k TVs nila same results - even Cignal tv gnun din "daw"... maybe defective hdmi board? Nooooooooooo!!!!... i'll check with their customer support if this s true... tnx 

if the hdmi ports are defective, that should be the same case if you plug a BD player or an AVR, have you tried another source just to test the HDMI ports?
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Toslink on Sep 15, 2014 at 12:42 PM
if the hdmi ports are defective, that should be the same case if you plug a BD player or an AVR, have you tried another source just to test the HDMI ports?

yes sir tried other sources ok nman talagang yung Digibox lang may problem pero sa normal 1080p tv ayos nman... tinawag ko na sa Skycable try daw nila palitan ng ibang digibox.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Moks007 on Sep 15, 2014 at 12:52 PM
First of  all congrats sir. Maybe its the hdmi cable? try yun high speed na puede na 4k.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Toslink on Sep 16, 2014 at 05:29 AM
First of  all congrats sir. Maybe its the hdmi cable? try yun high speed na puede na 4k.

ty sir... changed the cable that came in the box (high speed) same result... :( wait ko nlang skycable to check..
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: raptor on Sep 16, 2014 at 07:34 AM
ty sir... changed the cable that came in the box (high speed) same result... :( wait ko nlang skycable to check..

another thing that you may try is updating the firmware (tv and/or cable box) ... might do the trick ... it's quite easy to upgrade the firmware of LG, just needs Internet connection ... yung cable box naman, normally it's readily available from the manufacturer and just need to download the firmware on a USB drive ... just some suggestions you can do while waiting for the new cable box or LG repair
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Lancito on Sep 19, 2014 at 11:40 AM
Sana maa
ty sir... changed the cable that came in the box (high speed) same result... :( wait ko nlang skycable to check..

Sana maayos hdmi ports mo. Gusto ko din kasi nyan tv na yan. Baka mag sale sa pasko.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Stagea on Sep 19, 2014 at 12:09 PM
yes sir tried other sources ok nman talagang yung Digibox lang may problem pero sa normal 1080p tv ayos nman... tinawag ko na sa Skycable try daw nila palitan ng ibang digibox.

Most likely TV firmware update lang yan. Tinawag mo na sa LG? Dalawang friends ko na ang nagkaganyang problem with a 2014 LG 4K TV; it was resolved by a firmware update. According to the LG people HDMI handshake issue lang siya, and it can be fixed by an update either on the box or on the TV.

Sa cases ng friends ko, naghahang yung *black* na HD box ng Skycable (newer model na walang branding except "SkyCable" sa front panel) pag sinaksak via HDMI ng nakasindi ang cable box. Pag nakakabit na sila before sindihan ang cable box, no picture (black screen). Yung lumang HD boxes ng Skycable works just fine (Coship brand na *white*  katulad ng mga gamit namin; eto yung malaki pa yung kaha). Both TVs were fixed by a firmware update.

Component video will also do HD. Switch your cable box to 1080i then hook the TV up via component. Sky transmits 1080i video naman, the box just deinterlaces to 1080p. With higher model TVs mas maganda yung deinterlacer nung TV than nung cable box, so mas maganda to set the box to output 1080i/60 (native).

Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Toslink on Sep 20, 2014 at 09:05 AM
Sana maa
Sana maayos hdmi ports mo. Gusto ko din kasi nyan tv na yan. Baka mag sale sa pasko.

buy kna sir! 1st time makanood ng passive 3D grabe!! no crosstalk!! pwede mong kalabitin ung tao sa screen!! hehe sa samy 51" and epson pj (both active 3D) sumasakit ulo ng wife and eldest son ko, sa passive daw hindi.

Most likely TV firmware update lang yan. Tinawag mo na sa LG? Dalawang friends ko na ang nagkaganyang problem with a 2014 LG 4K TV; it was resolved by a firmware update. According to the LG people HDMI handshake issue lang siya, and it can be fixed by an update either on the box or on the TV.

Sa cases ng friends ko, naghahang yung *black* na HD box ng Skycable (newer model na walang branding except "SkyCable" sa front panel) pag sinaksak via HDMI ng nakasindi ang cable box. Pag nakakabit na sila before sindihan ang cable box, no picture (black screen). Yung lumang HD boxes ng Skycable works just fine (Coship brand na *white*  katulad ng mga gamit namin; eto yung malaki pa yung kaha). Both TVs were fixed by a firmware update.

Component video will also do HD. Switch your cable box to 1080i then hook the TV up via component. Sky transmits 1080i video naman, the box just deinterlaces to 1080p. With higher model TVs mas maganda yung deinterlacer nung TV than nung cable box, so mas maganda to set the box to output 1080i/60 (native).


updated naman sir firmware - called LG last Tuesday possible HDMI board daw according to LG plus meron led backlight blooming on the upper left corner and lower right corner ng screen very annoying kainis parang laging nka ON yung backlight led- LG Techs requested replacement for a new tv, today daw de-deliver - pull-out-replace nila today - kaso di ko pa din mainstall wait na naman ako sa LG techs to assemble/install the tv maybe on Monday pa, so no TV for me later today up to monday...  try ko ulit kabit ung Digibox with your suggestions today before they pullout later this afternoon - i will experiment on all possible connections/tv resolutions 480i-1080p on Digibox - many thanks! :D
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Stagea on Sep 23, 2014 at 05:27 AM
buy kna sir! 1st time makanood ng passive 3D grabe!! no crosstalk!! pwede mong kalabitin ung tao sa screen!! hehe sa samy 51" and epson pj (both active 3D) sumasakit ulo ng wife and eldest son ko, sa passive daw hindi.

updated naman sir firmware - called LG last Tuesday possible HDMI board daw according to LG plus meron led backlight blooming on the upper left corner and lower right corner ng screen very annoying kainis parang laging nka ON yung backlight led- LG Techs requested replacement for a new tv, today daw de-deliver - pull-out-replace nila today - kaso di ko pa din mainstall wait na naman ako sa LG techs to assemble/install the tv maybe on Monday pa, so no TV for me later today up to monday...  try ko ulit kabit ung Digibox with your suggestions today before they pullout later this afternoon - i will experiment on all possible connections/tv resolutions 480i-1080p on Digibox - many thanks! :D

I see. I hope they get to resolve the issue soon sir.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 23, 2014 at 07:27 AM
Toshiba is doing the rounds of Abenson stores.  They're showing off their 84" L93 series 4k TV's as part of a Pro-Theater marketing push.

When I saw it yesterday, I wasn't impressed overall with the PQ, which seemed rather dull. My theory is that this is due to Waltermart North EDSA being brightly lit compared to what I saw in a Japanese department store (Yodobashi-Akiba) a couple of months ago.  I am, however, liking the fact that Tosh is not riding on the curved screen gimmickry of LG and Samsung.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Stagea on Sep 23, 2014 at 08:17 AM
Toshiba is doing the rounds of Abenson stores.  They're showing off their 84" L93 series 4k TV's as part of a Pro-Theater marketing push.

When I saw it yesterday, I wasn't impressed overall with the PQ, which seemed rather dull. My theory is that this is due to Waltermart North EDSA being brightly lit compared to what I saw in a Japanese department store (Yodobashi-Akiba) a couple of months ago.  I am, however, liking the fact that Tosh is not riding on the curved screen gimmickry of LG and Samsung.

I agree. Curved LCD panels worsen the off-axis fade when the viewer is off-center (it might work for OLED though). Sony is continuing the curved LCD screen trend:
http://www.cnet.com/news/sony-bows-curved-4k-tv/ (http://www.cnet.com/news/sony-bows-curved-4k-tv/)

Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Stagea on Sep 23, 2014 at 08:31 AM
We might be getting 4k soon... if Amazon counts the Philippines as a part of the globe.
http://advanced-television.com/2014/08/28/samsung-commits-to-global-4k/ (http://advanced-television.com/2014/08/28/samsung-commits-to-global-4k/)

I would suppose that Amazon will require the same 15Mbps connection that Netflix requires for usable 4K / UHD streaming.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Lancito on Sep 23, 2014 at 10:47 AM
buy kna sir! 1st time makanood ng passive 3D grabe!! no crosstalk!! pwede mong kalabitin ung tao sa screen!! hehe sa samy 51" and epson pj (both active 3D) sumasakit ulo ng wife and eldest son ko, sa passive daw hindi.

updated naman sir firmware - called LG last Tuesday possible HDMI board daw according to LG plus meron led backlight blooming on the upper left corner and lower right corner ng screen very annoying kainis parang laging nka ON yung backlight led- LG Techs requested replacement for a new tv, today daw de-deliver - pull-out-replace nila today - kaso di ko pa din mainstall wait na naman ako sa LG techs to assemble/install the tv maybe on Monday pa, so no TV for me later today up to monday...  try ko ulit kabit ung Digibox with your suggestions today before they pullout later this afternoon - i will experiment on all possible connections/tv resolutions 480i-1080p on Digibox - many thanks! :D


Sir naayos na problema mo?  Please update.  Thanks.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Toslink on Sep 23, 2014 at 09:39 PM

Sir naayos na problema mo?  Please update.  Thanks.

laki problema ng LG - got 2 units already with severe backlight bleed problem (delivered to my house)- LG Tech recommended a replacement - AGAIN? for the 3rd time?- rushed to Ansons this afternoon to check again my 3rd  unit pero gnun pa din malupit talaga backlight bleed! ang liwanag ng 4 corners and washed out ang colors on left and right side of the screen (1/4 of the screen per side)- according to LG rep @ Ansons, backlight bleeding is "normal" with all their Premium UHDTVs!!! Kahit replace ntin yan ng ireplace same problem lang makikita nyo - ask ko nga sya... kung ikaw bumili ng tv worth almost 300k accept mo ba na "normal" yang backlight bleed??? - sagot nya, No sir! 300k is 300k!!! haha - so no other options for me but to REFUND? tumango sya eh! hahaha - i know that its normal sa mga edge lit displays pero this is terrible!! kinonsider nga ng Technician nila na DEFECT kaya all my 3 replacements were approved right away!- in the end, i decided to get Samsungs's 78" Curved TV - hahaha - Pullout nila 79"LG then replace nila ng 78"Curved Samy this Friday!!! 
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Lancito on Sep 24, 2014 at 09:47 PM
laki problema ng LG - got 2 units already with severe backlight bleed problem (delivered to my house)- LG Tech recommended a replacement - AGAIN? for the 3rd time?- rushed to Ansons this afternoon to check again my 3rd  unit pero gnun pa din malupit talaga backlight bleed! ang liwanag ng 4 corners and washed out ang colors on left and right side of the screen (1/4 of the screen per side)- according to LG rep @ Ansons, backlight bleeding is "normal" with all their Premium UHDTVs!!! Kahit replace ntin yan ng ireplace same problem lang makikita nyo - ask ko nga sya... kung ikaw bumili ng tv worth almost 300k accept mo ba na "normal" yang backlight bleed??? - sagot nya, No sir! 300k is 300k!!! haha - so no other options for me but to REFUND? tumango sya eh! hahaha - i know that its normal sa mga edge lit displays pero this is terrible!! kinonsider nga ng Technician nila na DEFECT kaya all my 3 replacements were approved right away!- in the end, i decided to get Samsungs's 78" Curved TV - hahaha - Pullout nila 79"LG then replace nila ng 78"Curved Samy this Friday!!! 


Wow problem nga. Very expensive problem. Taas ng tingin ko sa LG. Didnt think there will be any issues since mas maganda reviews ng LG than Samsung. Anyhow, i hope you find the right tv for you. Hindi muna ako bili. Siguro intayin ko nalang yung Panasonic uhdtv.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: greatauror28 on Jul 30, 2015 at 10:39 PM
A very educating article on where UHD stands now

~ article from AVS Forums ~

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/301-avs-forum-articles/2028921-top-10-things-you-need-know-about-choosing-between-hd-uhd.html

*****

Should you get an HD or UHD display for your home theater? There are several things to consider before making this important decision.

1. HD has a pixel resolution of 1920x1080, while UHD (also commonly but inaccurately known as 4K) quadruples the resolution to 3840x2160, but that additional resolution does not offer much visible benefit at typical screen sizes and seating distances. (Of course, you can see a big difference at the "pixel-peeping" distance depicted above, but few people actually sit that close to their TV.)

2. UHD will offer several other enhancements, including high dynamic range (HDR), wider color gamut (WCG), and high frame rate (HFR), but the details are still being worked out. These enhancements will have a much greater impact on image quality than increased resolution.

3. There are several HDR systems vying for acceptance by display manufacturers and content creators, including SMPTE (the only one that's an open industry standard), Dolby Vision, Philips, Technicolor, and BBC.

4. The only currently available consumer displays with HDR and WCG capabilities are the Samsung SUHD TVs, which implement the SMPTE HDR standard; the Vizio Reference Series will offer WCG and Dolby Vision HDR when it is released, presumably later this year. Also, the Panasonic CX850 and Sony X940C LCDs and LG EG9600 OLED are scheduled to get firmware updates that add HDR capabilities—at least for streaming content—this year.

5. There is currently no consumer content with HDR, WCG, or HFR; Disney and Pixar have created HDR/WCG content for commercial cinema using Dolby Vision, and Fox has announced it will produce HDR content for the home market.

6. Streaming services Amazon, M-Go, Netflix, and Vudu have announced plans to provide HDR content this year, but they could use different HDR systems. Will HDR-capable displays be able to decode multiple types of HDR signals? We don't know yet.

7. The only way to stream UHD content at this point is via the display's built-in apps, the Sony FMP-X10 UHD server, or the Nvidia Shield streaming box; a Roku UHD streaming box is under development, as are others, I'm sure.

8. Ultra HD Blu-ray Discs will support the SMPTE, Dolby Vision, and Philips HDR systems as well as WCG when they—and the players needed to play them—start shipping by the end of this year. Those players should also support UHD streaming, presumably with HDR and WCG if available. To play UHD content with HDR from an outboard device, both the device and display must support HDMI 2.0a.

9. Many people argue that a UHDTV can make HD look much better than it does on an HDTV, but that depends on the quality of the display's upscaler, and many others maintain that the increased resolution by itself does not improve the picture quality very much at typical screen sizes and seating distances.

10. Because of all the current uncertainty, I generally recommend that mainstream consumers and enthusiasts with limited means wait to buy a UHD display until the dust settles in a year or two. This recommendation does not necessarily apply to fervent early adopters who replace their display every couple of years anyway; in fact, it's because of them that we see so much progress in the development of all consumer-electronics products.

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Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Kier on Sep 22, 2015 at 02:12 PM
Mas less ba problem with backlight bleed sa directled than edgelit?
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: xgh0st12x on Sep 22, 2015 at 09:23 PM
having owned a sammy direct led tv in the past, i would have to say yes.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: unsaidsorrow on Sep 28, 2015 at 10:57 AM
Hello, I'm planning to buy a new TV next month to replace my aging Pana 32LX80...

Which one is the better choice?

to get a SONY 50W800C or a 4K 49X8300C na around P10,000 ang difference?

I will be using it primarily for Xbox One and PS4 gaming, I know they don't support 4K yet, but I wonder if this would be a smarter option to prepare at least?
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: DTNS on Sep 28, 2015 at 11:01 AM
Hello, I'm planning to buy a new TV next month to replace my aging Pana 32LX80...

Which one is the better choice?

to get a SONY 50W800C or a 4K 49X8300C na around P10,000 ang difference?

I will be using it primarily for Xbox One and PS4 gaming, I know they don't support 4K yet, but I wonder if this would be a smarter option to prepare at least?

get the 4K na!
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: unsaidsorrow on Sep 28, 2015 at 11:20 AM
get the 4K na!

Been trying to look for a product review sa TV na 'to, wala pa mahanap eh... :) Anyone here has this TV? Would love to read your inputs!

Thank you!
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: kakashi on Oct 08, 2015 at 05:21 PM
Any recommendations as to the best value for money (4k) model to upgrade to?

Im currently limited to a 40-42" due to the "limitations" of the shelves in my room

Thanks!
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: DTNS on Oct 08, 2015 at 06:36 PM
Any recommendations as to the best value for money (4k) model to upgrade to?

Im currently limited to a 40-42" due to the "limitations" of the shelves in my room

Thanks!

check LG, Sony, and Samsung's 40-43" 4K offerings. :)
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: raptor on Oct 12, 2015 at 06:04 AM
Any recommendations as to the best value for money (4k) model to upgrade to?

Im currently limited to a 40-42" due to the "limitations" of the shelves in my room

Thanks!

my brother got a 4k 42-inch TCL brand for just a little bit over 20k ... PQ is quite good
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: DTNS on Oct 12, 2015 at 10:12 AM
my brother got a 4k 42-inch TCL brand for just a little bit over 20k ... PQ is quite good

where did he get his 42" 4K?
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: raptor on Oct 12, 2015 at 01:20 PM
where did he get his 42" 4K?

sellers at Cash & Carry, Ansons I think ... there's one in this forum if I'm not mistaken
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: DTNS on Oct 12, 2015 at 01:47 PM
sellers at Cash & Carry, Ansons I think ... there's one in this forum if I'm not mistaken

nice. thanks!
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: kakashi on Oct 15, 2015 at 02:58 PM
got myself a samsung 40" 4k curved tv... when i placed it on my stand to replace my old panny 42 plasma... i was surprised by how much extra space i had now compared to when the panny was my main tv.

seems the curved ones actually come out smaller than the regular/ flat ones, and now im thinking if should go for the 48"...

btw, have issues with backlight bleeding, you should test your units thoroughly prior to bringing them home, and if possible, try to setup wireless functionality

my set had no issues when tested, but as soon as i got it connected to youtube to view the recommended 4k videos... i experienced backlight bleeding on the bottom of the screen, it seems whatevers the dominant color, theres a thin line of it at the very bottom of some 4k videos...

samsung will be sending over a tech to investigate this weekend, if its good to be replaced, will probably upgrade to the 48" na din :)
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: skooter on Oct 15, 2015 at 04:09 PM
got myself a samsung 40" 4k curved tv... when i placed it on my stand to replace my old panny 42 plasma... i was surprised by how much extra space i had now compared to when the panny was my main tv.

seems the curved ones actually come out smaller than the regular/ flat ones, and now im thinking if should go for the 48"...

btw, have issues with backlight bleeding, you should test your units thoroughly prior to bringing them home, and if possible, try to setup wireless functionality

my set had no issues when tested, but as soon as i got it connected to youtube to view the recommended 4k videos... i experienced backlight bleeding on the bottom of the screen, it seems whatevers the dominant color, theres a thin line of it at the very bottom of some 4k videos...

samsung will be sending over a tech to investigate this weekend, if its good to be replaced, will probably upgrade to the 48" na din :)
basta edge lighting na LED you will really notice backlight bleeding and it really bothers me a lot kaya upto now i still stick to my F8500 plasma. 4k LED does not amaze me except for that Sony's X94C 4k TV but an OLED tv it was something more to behold :D
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: kakashi on Oct 15, 2015 at 04:35 PM
basta edge lighting na LED you will really notice backlight bleeding and it really bothers me a lot kaya upto now i still stick to my F8500 plasma. 4k LED does not amaze me except for that Sony's X94C 4k TV but an OLED tv it was something more to behold :D

Hi Skooter, so does this mean the bleeding will always be there, and its not considered a defect?

Or is it a case to case basis?

Thanks!
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: skooter on Oct 15, 2015 at 04:44 PM
meron talagang yan..normal for an LED tv even those high-end ones but controlled somehow.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Toslink on Oct 16, 2015 at 11:08 AM
... just sharing the black uniformity of my Samsung 78HU9000 (Edge-Lit LED) last year's Samsung flagship model...

no visible clouding...

@ Normal Mode
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff181/Toslink/d3735deb-9250-486d-b8ad-d50185ddfa89_zpsfinni2gq.jpg) (http://s239.photobucket.com/user/Toslink/media/d3735deb-9250-486d-b8ad-d50185ddfa89_zpsfinni2gq.jpg.html)

@ Movie Mode
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff181/Toslink/0638f05e-14f4-44c5-8e3b-db2a13cd2cb4_zpsapioiidg.jpg) (http://s239.photobucket.com/user/Toslink/media/0638f05e-14f4-44c5-8e3b-db2a13cd2cb4_zpsapioiidg.jpg.html)

@ Dynamic Mode
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff181/Toslink/495389f0-2531-4746-9caf-f375c47493fb_zpsgyuk4xvd.jpg) (http://s239.photobucket.com/user/Toslink/media/495389f0-2531-4746-9caf-f375c47493fb_zpsgyuk4xvd.jpg.html)


Edge-Lit TVs are prone to clouding/bleeding pero hindi ibig sabihin eh "normal" yun!! according to Samsung and LG, hindi daw nila irerelease mga Edge-Lit nila sa market kung magiging "normal" ang clouding sa mga units nila, mishandling during packaging and transporting "daw" ang cause ng clouding (pressure on some areas ng panel during packaging - paghawak)... if you ask the marketing people of both brands, sasabihin nila "normal" yan (iwas paper works for replacement) pero if you ask the tech guys sasabihin nila defect yan!!.. may experience na kasi akong ganito sa LG hehehe magkaiba sila ng opinion pero IMO tama nman ang mga tech guys!... in the end aproved pa din for replacement ang unit ko!!... yun lang Samsung na kinuha ko!! :D
Title: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Kier on Oct 16, 2015 at 04:43 PM
Para ngang iwas ako sa edgelit, lalo na dun sa mga low tier model.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: skooter on Oct 16, 2015 at 06:11 PM
same here, edgelit TV sucks...the FALD(FULL ARRAY LOCAL Dimming) such as the Sony's X94C is such an excellent 4K LED TV.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Toslink on Oct 17, 2015 at 09:41 AM
yeh true! top rated ang X94C!... the question is.. do you own one?... post naman ng pics and lets see the black uniformity of your panel!!??? :D
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: skooter on Oct 17, 2015 at 10:09 AM
yeh true! top rated ang X94C!... the question is.. do you own one?... post naman ng pics and lets see the black uniformity of your panel!!??? :D
huh? i don't know what makes you upset sir? i said i don't like 4K LED TV except for Sony's X94C, thats why i'm still on my F8500 plasma thats the closest thing to OLED. Now where is that statement of mine that makes you pissed? weird are you...
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Waxx on Oct 17, 2015 at 01:15 PM
kung may pambili lang ako, palitan ko sana yung edge lit na 75inch ko. passe na kasi and bulok na. kaya lang wala akong pangbili e.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Toslink on Oct 18, 2015 at 05:46 PM
huh? i don't know what makes you upset sir? i said i don't like 4K LED TV except for Sony's X94C, thats why i'm still on my F8500 plasma thats the closest thing to OLED. Now where is that statement of mine that makes you pissed? weird are you...

50yrs old nko wala na sa system ko ang ma-upset :D,... one thing... im sure other edge-lit owners was offended by your statement that "edgelit tv sucks!".. akala ko kaya tyo nandito sa PDVD "tulungan" at "respetuhan" tayong mga members hindi "tirahan"?..  im here to help (as fas as i know) kaya nag co-comment ako regarding clouding para mabawasan ang dilema ng mga 4k lower model edge-lit owners, kung baga nandyan na yan eh, tulungan na lang natin, di ba?. ... then suddenly may mababasa kming "Edge-lit Sucks"? and you're comparing FALD against Edge-Lit that you don't even have?.. nasan ang integerity ng comment mo? nsan ang ambag mo sa forum na 'to? kung meron "4K plasma" F8500 (sorry walang 4k and plasma is dead) by all means mag comment ka hindi ka out-of-topic... RESPETO lang sir sa mga di kayang bumili ng Sony FALD at OLED na ine-endorso mo!... "weird me?" :D   

kung may pambili lang ako, palitan ko sana yung edge lit na 75inch ko. passe na kasi and bulok na. kaya lang wala akong pangbili e.

Imagine pati si sir Waxx gustong palitan Edge-lit nya kaso wala "daw" pang bili ng FALD/OLED?? :D :D
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: skooter on Oct 18, 2015 at 08:09 PM
na offend ka pala sa edge lit sucks, thats how i see about the edge lit tvs and thats the fact everyone knows that. i did not wrote anything in this thread that makes lessen your reputation? what i wrote is "I avoid buying edgelit tvs" a 50 yr. old guy getting pissed off w/a statement says that edge-lit tv sucks lol..btw i could not afford a fald tv, damn i could not buy myself a 75" HU9000 tv like yours...but even i cud afford one i'll stay away from it and that is my point.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Waxx on Oct 19, 2015 at 07:26 AM
50yrs old nko wala na sa system ko ang ma-upset :D,... one thing... im sure other edge-lit owners was offended by your statement that "edgelit tv sucks!".. akala ko kaya tyo nandito sa PDVD "tulungan" at "respetuhan" tayong mga members hindi "tirahan"?..  im here to help (as fas as i know) kaya nag co-comment ako regarding clouding para mabawasan ang dilema ng mga 4k lower model edge-lit owners, kung baga nandyan na yan eh, tulungan na lang natin, di ba?. ... then suddenly may mababasa kming "Edge-lit Sucks"? and you're comparing FALD against Edge-Lit that you don't even have?.. nasan ang integerity ng comment mo? nsan ang ambag mo sa forum na 'to? kung meron "4K plasma" F8500 (sorry walang 4k and plasma is dead) by all means mag comment ka hindi ka out-of-topic... RESPETO lang sir sa mga di kayang bumili ng Sony FALD at OLED na ine-endorso mo!... "weird me?" :D   

Imagine pati si sir Waxx gustong palitan Edge-lit nya kaso wala "daw" pang bili ng FALD/OLED?? :D :D



heheh sir, pagpasensyahan nalang natin. edge lit lang kasi kaya natin kaya pagtyagaan nalang natin ang clouding.. kasama kasi yan sa purchasing power natin..

if you backread his post. ganyan talaga sya nag generalize, sabi ko nga before na kung pwede ipasetup yung ps4 sa demo 4ktv. aba biglang humirit na di gagawin ng store yun kasi di naman daw ako bibili..(sabat ng sabat, di ko naman kausap)..

tapos dun sa plasma thread, bash ng bash ng certain plasma tv.. kesyo anong naririnig nya at nababasa tungkol sa negative ng certain model na yun.. YUN PALA YUN DIN ANG BINILI NYA!  PANALO DIBA!..

(baka siguro natakot maubusan ng stocks)


anyways. btt.. poor me, stuck with an edge lit tv.. no money to buy.. (sigh)
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: skooter on Oct 19, 2015 at 08:44 AM
Waxx this is not about whether we can afford a fald tv or not, i'm just saying 4k edge-lit was a bad technology and folks like me stay away from it. i can't understand why u and yor fren wud take this in a bad light, Waxx i used my tv for watching bluray movies, wait a minute am i arguing a person who use his tv for gaming? so i supposed wer are not on the same channel, gamer ka pala. a videophile has different needs, you a gamer just wants big jumbo screen and faster response time. chill out man i'm outta here.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Waxx on Oct 19, 2015 at 09:45 AM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/698/22101720910_7954ab3fee_o.jpg)

 ;D ;D ;D


wow.. first of all, you generalize me way back on your previous post that i have no money to buy a UHD TV.

so kung wala akong pera pambili, bawal na ako tumambay at mag comment sa thread? e bat ikaw kumokoment ka parin? 



now you generalize that I am a gamer, and i dont have a use for UHDTV other than gaming. 

if there's one thing in your statement that i would haveto agree with you, is that "were really not on the same channel"

please come back. its been a while since my debating skills had an exercise.

people here in pdvd are very openminded. we respect opinions here.. what we hate are people who are 1. rude, and 2. know it alls who's knowledge are backed up by 2.a (heresay) 2.b (internet based comments/review) 2.c opinions of others.    we can always google that ourselves.

whats golden here are the opinions of OWNERS.  since they have first hand knowledge of the pros and cons of 1 product.  anong alam mo sa FALD or sa OLED aside from reading about it? which all of the members here can also do? 

tagalugin ko. in short. yung replies mo kasi, nakakabastos.  buti sana kung meron ka nung mga items sa topic.  you share your personal opinion, ok.. pero to share your opinion AND bash other technologies, thats where your fault lies...  teka english uli.. 

bottom line.. LIGAF...

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Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: skooter on Oct 19, 2015 at 12:53 PM
u really dont get it do u? that's wat pdvd is i learned about tvs, i dont know why u felt insulted i just wrote edgelit tvs is bad for folks like me, i did not wrote u suck for buying an edge-lit tv. u really take yor time posting some funny banners to make me amused lol...wel u can counter post all u want. but ah this will be my last post on this thread.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Waxx on Oct 19, 2015 at 01:16 PM
i honestly have difficulty getting it... dugo na ilong ko..
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Waxx on Oct 19, 2015 at 01:56 PM
siguro ill just clear it out. tagalugin ko? coz i dont know bisaya... ikaw ang di nakakaintindi.. and i quote the ff:

in the plasma 2013 thread.. may tinatanong lang ako kay clondalkin.. di naman kita kausap.. actually di ko nga alam na you existed..


sir, would it be possible to ask them to plug in a current game system (ps3 or xbox360) on that 4ktv theyre demoing? tapos see side by side kung may difference sa 1080tv? just like what they did with the futbol hdtv demo...



Asked the seller to show the same 1080p futbol game they're showing on the top of the line plasmas and LEDs nearby instead of the gorgeous demo....pareho lang ng regular LED HDTV quality.


tapos eto sagot mo at ni quote mo pa talaga ang post ko sa kanya ha:

hindi ka siguro pabibigyan about your request kasi they know u won't buy it anyway, lol....


excuse me, kilala ba kita? kilala mo ba ako? sino ka para mag comment ng ganun sa akin? yan ang point ko. bastos ka humirit, e di ka naman kinakausap... ang tawag sayo EPAL. ikaw ba yung tinatanong ko?

and anong karapatan mo para sabihin na di ako bibili? so bat ako nagpapatanong? para magsayang ng oras ng ibang tao?

so tingin mo na offend ako? di no.. natawa nga ako at ginawa ko nalang internal joke yan. wala kasi akong pambili... pero siguro either manhid ka, di mo na gets yun..


so maiba tayo, fast forward naman nung may ibang discussion regarding sa samsung plasma tv:  nung mainit init na pinaguusapan yung tv.. eto ka na naman...

i think i've read an article a month ago that SONY has a curved LCD/LED panel i forgot where i find it. anyway somewhere in this thread wrote that there's a lot of customer complain about the sammy's F8500 and a salesman here in cebu told me they've got a lot of complain about this F8500 and worse there's one customer sue them for not allowing him to return back his F8500. most of the complains daw nag crack daw yun panel, i don't know folks but this story seems ligit after i've read a post in this thread.


timing mo boy.. pinag uusapan kung VT60 ang kukunin or yung marked down price ng samsung na f8500.. to which you even had the guts to quote our member anchit.. and called him "certain"

this post is from a certain anchit ----- I was in a big Big AV store in Melb, nagtanong ako kung magkano ang best price nila sa 64F8500 and 65Vt60, the salesguy said " don't get the F8500, we are clearing them out, a lot of units have been returned due to different problems, you seem to be a nice guy, don't go thru the stress of getting it and then sending it back".

so ang purpose mo dito is???  i warn ang mga tao na wag bibili ng samsung tv? kasi sa mga nabasa mo? and dahil sa may nagsabi kay anchit na sirain sya?

again, eto sagot ko, at inamin ko naman wala akong pambili.. kasi yan ang generalization mo sa akin diba?

and your point is???...


ahhh gets ko na point nyo.. meaning sirain ang f8500 dahil sa sinabi ng salesman in cebu at sa sinabi ng salesman kay anchit..

ok... somebody also told me once that the world will end in year2000.. almost believed him..


anyhoo.. since wala akong pambili ng UHDTV at plasma.. di ako pinapansin ng mga salesman dito.. kaya ayun.. LED nalang uli binili ko..


ang ipinagtataka ko, sa dami mong negatibong sinabi re sa model ng tv na yun.. YUN PA PALA BINILI MO??

huh? i don't know what makes you upset sir? i said i don't like 4K LED TV except for Sony's X94C, thats why i'm still on my F8500 plasma thats the closest thing to OLED. Now where is that statement of mine that makes you pissed? weird are you...

ang hirap kasi sayo.. mga tao dito has their own dreams of buying the specific TV.. pero ang ginagawa mo... titirahin mo ang pangarap nila.. sasabihin mo pangit kasi ganito, sablay kasi ganyan... tapos nabasa mo lang pala at opinyon mo lang yun... sana nilagyan mo muna ng IMHO yung unahan.. "In My Humble Opinion" ang ibig sabiin nyan...   lahat dito nagiipon para sa maganda at malaking tv..  tapos mababasa nila na pangit yun nabili nila, kasi sabi mo? teka teka.. ang tanong is.. meron ka ba nun?  sino ka para basagin ang pangarap at paramdamin sa kanila na pangit ang pangarap nila base sa alam mo, opinyon mo, at nabasa mo?.. buti sana kung ang topic ay gaano kaganda ang f8500 na plasma... sige pwede kang sumabak dun kasi meron ka nun.. pero diba ikaw narin nagsabi na nabasa mo na pangit sya?  e bat mo binili? wala lang? dahil may pambili ka?

at sa huli.. eto pang isa..

Waxx this is not about whether we can afford a fald tv or not, i'm just saying 4k edge-lit was a bad technology and folks like me stay away from it. i can't understand why u and yor fren wud take this in a bad light, Waxx i used my tv for watching bluray movies, wait a minute am i arguing a person who use his tv for gaming? so i supposed wer are not on the same channel, gamer ka pala. a videophile has different needs, you a gamer just wants big jumbo screen and faster response time. chill out man i'm outta here.

so.. ang tanong ko dito is, pano mo naman nasabi na for gaming lang ang purpose ko kaya ako nagtatanong re sa tv? close ba tayo? nakikita mo ba yung library ko sa bahay kung puro games lang or movies ang gamit ko? so kung gamer lang ako, bawal na akong magtanong?  so pag gamer ako automatic na wala akong pambili ng 4kUHDTV?  nakakatawa lang kasi mga banat mo.. kung makahirit ka, akala mo kilala mo mga taong kumokoment.  di porke nasa harap ka ng pc screen at marunong ka mag type.. macho ka na.

and back to topic.. eenglishin ko na ha..

im saving up for that ultimate TV. yung around 100inch, 4-8ktv tapos oled.. tapos not curve.  sana it hit markets soon.. tapos presyong nasa less than 500k.  siguro by the time introduce yan, may ipon na ako

maglalaro ako dun ng FLAPPY BIRD! kasi gamer ako!




Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: skooter on Oct 19, 2015 at 02:11 PM
lol...i don't even have to read all those throwback moments...wat r'u gonna do file a case in the court for quarreling about a tv? wahehehe...
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: skooter on Oct 19, 2015 at 02:12 PM
 u take 2 hrs. to dig all those throwback moments, Waxx my tv man will u? wahahaha...
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Waxx on Oct 19, 2015 at 02:16 PM
i rest my case. :D

sharing a joke:

sabi nila.. the reason why a guy buys the bigger size tv is to  compensate for the size of his manhood...(or the lack of it)..

di na nga ako bibili ng 105inch tv.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/27/17/ef/2717ef67786a3d7577f32fe12fdaf72f.jpg)



back to old programming...
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: skooter on Oct 19, 2015 at 05:23 PM
calling me stupid eh? ran out of words? just resort to meme of mark twain, i thought your a descent being but whatta i know? you are really are on that 1st phrase " a stupid individual". look i just wrote edgelit tv are not gud for me, so deal with it. tsk..tsk..tsk.. floor Waxx mo nga tv ko..
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Waxx on Oct 19, 2015 at 05:54 PM
calling me stupid eh? ran out of words? just resort to meme of mark twain, i thought your a descent being but whatta i know? you are really are on that 1st phrase " a stupid individual". look i just wrote edgelit tv are not gud for me, so deal with it. tsk..tsk..tsk.. floor Waxx mo nga tv ko..


wonder how this will look in 4ktv??

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Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Toslink on Oct 19, 2015 at 08:22 PM
na offend ka pala sa edge lit sucks, thats how i see about the edge lit tvs and thats the fact everyone knows that. i did not wrote anything in this thread that makes lessen your reputation? what i wrote is "I avoid buying edgelit tvs" a 50 yr. old guy getting pissed off w/a statement says that edge-lit tv sucks lol..btw i could not afford a fald tv, damn i could not buy myself a 75" HU9000 tv like yours...but even i cud afford one i'll stay away from it and that is my point.

di mo alam na nkaka-offend na mga comments mo?... may problema ka talaga!!!... 78" TV ko not 75" and i love my TV!! no clouding, no bleeding!! perfect!!... and its 4K-UHD TV!!! ...  FYI  i do own 2 plasmas, samsung 51D550 (bedroom) and samsung 64E8000 (condo)



heheh sir, pagpasensyahan nalang natin. edge lit lang kasi kaya natin kaya pagtyagaan nalang natin ang clouding.. kasama kasi yan sa purchasing power natin..

anyways. btt.. poor me, stuck with an edge lit tv.. no money to buy.. (sigh)

oo nga sir Waxx talagang pagpasensyan nlang natin...

ang hirap kasi sayo.. mga tao dito has their own dreams of buying the specific TV.. pero ang ginagawa mo... titirahin mo ang pangarap nila.. sasabihin mo pangit kasi ganito, sablay kasi ganyan... tapos nabasa mo lang pala at opinyon mo lang yun... sana nilagyan mo muna ng IMHO yung unahan.. "In My Humble Opinion" ang ibig sabiin nyan...   lahat dito nagiipon para sa maganda at malaking tv..  tapos mababasa nila na pangit yun nabili nila, kasi sabi mo? teka teka.. ang tanong is.. meron ka ba nun?  sino ka para basagin ang pangarap at paramdamin sa kanila na pangit ang pangarap nila base sa alam mo, opinyon mo, at nabasa mo?.. buti sana kung ang topic ay gaano kaganda ang f8500 na plasma... sige pwede kang sumabak dun kasi meron ka nun.. pero diba ikaw narin nagsabi na nabasa mo na pangit sya?  e bat mo binili? wala lang? dahil may pambili ka?

korek!!!... :D madami na palang sablay na comment sa ibang thread!... ayaw kasi bumusina muna bago mag comment para di makasagasa!!... Akala ko ako lang nkapansin ng pagka arrogant nya...  ;D

Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Waxx on Oct 19, 2015 at 10:38 PM
based on his posts.. malamang pag mas madami pang members lumabas dito.. mag iba na ng topic ang thread na to.. pdvd vs scooter na...
 ;D

di kaya sumemplang yan dati at di naka helmet kaya nagkaganon?

ey? lol!

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: kakashi on Oct 20, 2015 at 04:27 PM
issues gone on my set, i dont know how but when i used it last weekend (so I can bookmark the videos that showed it) the issue just went away, tried leaving it on most of the day (sat) and it was really all gone, used it again last sunday and still nothing

so i cancelled the home service from samsung, so far everythings ok with the set.

Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: PNay on Oct 21, 2015 at 10:15 AM
Dati po nakabangaan ko rin si Mr. Brrrrroooommmm brrrroooommmm skooter for the same reason that he appears arrroooggggaaaannnttttt!
I pray to the Almighty that He cleanses the heart and mind of Mr. Brrrrooooommmm brrrooommm !
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: AC on Oct 23, 2015 at 12:36 AM
wierdly... may i am in china and may 8k tv na on display sa mall... nalimot ko sino gumawa.. sharp yata
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Stagea on Oct 23, 2015 at 07:07 AM
wierdly... may i am in china and may 8k tv na on display sa mall... nalimot ko sino gumawa.. sharp yata

Wow. The Sharp LV-85001 is very expensive. :)
Title: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 28, 2015 at 12:27 PM
Recently acquired a Samsung js9000 series.
It's an edge lit 4K SUHD TV... Comparing with the top of the line js9500 with Full Array Local Dimming, I can't see much difference in terms of overall PQ especially when watching with minimal ambient light.
I was actually strongly considering the js9500 but viewing them side by side I can't justify the 40K difference so I decided getting the js9000... and I'm totally HAPPY with the purchase ^-^
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: stevesonk on Oct 28, 2015 at 04:04 PM
Recently acquired a Samsung js9000 series.
It's an edge lit 4K SUHD TV... Comparing with the top of the line js9500 with Full Array Local Dimming, I can't see much difference in terms of overall PQ especially when watching with minimal ambient light.
I was actually strongly considering the js9500 but viewing them side by side I can't justify the 40K difference so I decided getting the js9000... and I'm totally HAPPY with the purchase ^-^
Congrats bossing,BIG TIME!!!
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: raider125jeigh on Oct 28, 2015 at 06:00 PM
Recently acquired a Samsung js9000 series.
It's an edge lit 4K SUHD TV... Comparing with the top of the line js9500 with Full Array Local Dimming, I can't see much difference in terms of overall PQ especially when watching with minimal ambient light.
I was actually strongly considering the js9500 but viewing them side by side I can't justify the 40K difference so I decided getting the js9000... and I'm totally HAPPY with the purchase ^-^
hm sis?
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: stevesonk on Oct 28, 2015 at 10:13 PM
hm sis?
Last Monday sabi sakin 106k kapag may soundbar,98.8k naman kapag wala ung model js9000 sa cash n carry bossing...
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: seahaven on Nov 01, 2015 at 10:36 AM
i am scouting for a 4k 55-inch Tv and my first choice is LG. Have been offered display models by LG at 43k but have not yet decided on this. my budget shld not exceed 50k and prefer the newer models
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Kier on Nov 02, 2015 at 02:12 PM
What movie & image files do you bring in your usb stick to check/test the picture quality of the tv you're eyeing to purchase?
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Nov 02, 2015 at 03:17 PM
^Exodus - Gods and Kings
^Gravity
^Toy Story
^Color Slide show to check for dead pixels
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: kakashi on Nov 04, 2015 at 09:02 AM
What devices do you guys use to view 4k content on your 4k tvs?
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: kakashi on Nov 04, 2015 at 09:06 AM
oh, and any reviews/ feedback on the lg 65 uf670t? its a basic 4k tv with just 2 hdmi slots and no smart functionality, the price is good kase, hehehe
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Dgame12345 on Nov 08, 2015 at 01:49 PM
Guys im planning to get a 40" led tv...
Should i already get a 4k ready tv or should i just go with full hd?
Kasi source ko mostly ung mga hd broadcast ng skycable digibox....
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: berdilot™ on Nov 09, 2015 at 02:08 AM
Anyone here tried pc/console gaming  on their 4k tvs? How is the input lag? Iniisip ko bumili ng 4k to be used a monitor and gaming console display.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: dencio105 on Nov 09, 2015 at 08:13 AM
Guys im planning to get a 40" led tv...
Should i already get a 4k ready tv or should i just go with full hd?
Kasi source ko mostly ung mga hd broadcast ng skycable digibox....

You may want to check this out first: http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,203614.0.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,203614.0.html)
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Toslink on Nov 09, 2015 at 08:43 AM
Guys im planning to get a 40" led tv...
Should i already get a 4k ready tv or should i just go with full hd?
Kasi source ko mostly ung mga hd broadcast ng skycable digibox....

IMO get a bigger FHD tv ... hindi mo din sir maeenjoy sa 40" ang PQ ng 4ktv... :D
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Dgame12345 on Nov 09, 2015 at 08:52 AM
Tnx for the link... I guess i might just go with a full hd :)
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: DTNS on Nov 09, 2015 at 12:00 PM
Guys im planning to get a 40" led tv...
Should i already get a 4k ready tv or should i just go with full hd?
Kasi source ko mostly ung mga hd broadcast ng skycable digibox....

if you're planning to use your tv as a monitor, okay ang 40" 4K. but as a main home theater screen? IMO, dapat 55" pataas.
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Stagea on Nov 10, 2015 at 07:52 AM
Quantum Dot LCD vs OLED
http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/lg-eg9600-vs-samsung-js9500/ (http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/lg-eg9600-vs-samsung-js9500/)
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Nov 10, 2015 at 09:10 AM
In the end of it all 4K na rin ang matitirang panel...
And be happy with whatever you pick.
 ;)
Title: Re: 4K....New HD Technology Hitting Market
Post by: Armz316 on Jan 29, 2016 at 02:12 PM

My Sony 40 inch HX800 works fine up to know paired with a 2004 Marantz a/V receiver. I'm still enjoy my simple setup! Thanks Pinoydvd for helping me out! God bless everyone!