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Home Theater => Audio => Speakers => Topic started by: ndy on Dec 14, 2012 at 04:20 AM
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http://www.whathifi.com/news/wharfedale-launches-latest-generation-of-its-best-selling-diamond-speakers
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j67/mimigz/Wharfedale_Diamond_100_Series_close.jpg)
kailan kaya sa atin?
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Mukang maganda yan bro. Norman.....getting ready naba for upgrade?
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Meron sa spectra glorietta yung 121 similar pricing sa 10.1
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Meron sa spectra glorietta yung 121 similar pricing sa 10.1
nice audition time na:)
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WHF review for the 121
http://www.whathifi.com/review/diamond-121
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WHF review for the 121
http://www.whathifi.com/review/diamond-121
Thanks for the heads up...I"m eyeing this speaker for my bedroom setup..so this should be the diamond 11 series pala.
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Thanks for the heads up...I"m eyeing this speaker for my bedroom setup..so this should be the diamond 11 series pala.
It's actually diamond 100 series. Go for the 122.
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How much srp nito? TIA.
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i was able to audition the 122 in what hifi yesterday. it was a fresh out of the box unit. tried it with a nad 316bee, it retains the signature warmth wharfedale has but it looks like it needs a a bit more break-in. if i'm going to compare this with the wharfedale 10, i'd choose the latter because aesthetically it looks classier while this new line is a bit more modern. kinda looks like it's brother the mission mx series.
the pricing? srp was 8.8k.
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At spectra, SRP is 6600 for the 121, 8800 for the 122. 6600 for the 101c(?), 16000 for the 155 Floorstander.
I got the 121 for myself last Dec 28. Didn't really need it but they offer 10% discount for cash purchase. It turns out the newer 100 series costs lesser than the older 10 series.
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Lagyan natin ng specs the 121 Bookshelf
Specifications:
General description 2-way Bookshelf speaker
Enclosure type reflex box
Transducer complement 2-way
Bass driver 125mm Bass x 1
Treble driver 25mm Soft Dome
AV shield Yes
Sensitivity (2.83V lm) 86dB
Recommended amplifier power 20-100W
Peak SPL 95dB
Nominal impedance 6Ω
Minimum impedance 4.1Ω
Frequency response (+/-3dB) 50Hz 20kHz
Bass extension (-6dB) 45Hz
Crossover frequency 2.3kHz
Dimensions (H X W x D) 315 X 174 X 227 (mm)
Net weight 5.3kg/piece
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I've been reading the comparison between the diamond 100 and the diamond 10 series and the common feedback is the price drop, performance is relatively the same, making wharfedale very consistent with its trademark warm and easy to listen to. I'm starting to wonder why its cheaper than its predecessor, would anyone know?
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I've been reading the comparison between the diamond 100 and the diamond 10 series and the common feedback is the price drop, performance is relatively the same, making wharfedale very consistent with its trademark warm and easy to listen to. I'm starting to wonder why its cheaper than its predecessor, would anyone know?
I'm guessing that the cabinet is cheaper to build (no curved sides and less materials needed). The smaller dimensions also reduce shipping and storage costs.
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I'm guessing that the cabinet is cheaper to build (no curved sides and less materials needed). The smaller dimensions also reduce shipping and storage costs.
interesting yan sir ivan ah, they changed the design pala? buti hindi nagbago yung tunog?
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interesting yan sir ivan ah, they changed the design pala? buti hindi nagbago yung tunog?
There are many ways to skin a cat. :)
Local pricing ng 121 is 61% lower than the UK price. They've adjusted the nominal impedance ratings of their towers to a more realistic number (4 ohms). Some older models like the Diamond 9.6 exhibit impedance drops to the 2 ohm region, while being rated as 6 ohms nominal.
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and thats another thing that i also noticed, our prices are lower vs. that of other countries, special mention goes to the brits.
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and thats another thing that i also noticed, our prices are lower vs. that of other countries, special mention goes to the brits.
Credit goes to Zamony Venture Corp.
http://zamony.com.ph/index.php (http://zamony.com.ph/index.php)
They've been very aggressive with pricing ever since. This is partly why Pioneer users far outnumber users of other brands sa mobile audio dito sa Pilipinas. You can get a brand new and fairly well-featured head unit for 3k, for example (with 2 years warranty at that). Competing brands start at twice that. Yung entry-level AVRs nila nagsesale to less than 10k, whilst yung competing brands asa ~20k range pa din.
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Credit goes to Zamony Venture Corp.
http://zamony.com.ph/index.php (http://zamony.com.ph/index.php)
They've been very aggressive with pricing ever since. This is partly why Pioneer users far outnumber users of other brands sa mobile audio dito sa Pilipinas. You can get a brand new and fairly well-featured head unit for 3k, for example (with 2 years warranty at that). Competing brands start at twice that. Yung entry-level AVRs nila nagsesale to less than 10k, whilst yung competing brands asa ~20k range pa din.
Thats actually very true, pioneer headunits are very cheap.
My first suspicion with the price drop od the diamond one 100's was maybe there is a new advancement in technology, say maybe cheaper but stronger material used with the cabinets, smaller but more powerful magnet making it cheaper to manufacture but not necessarily inferior, somewhere along those lines.
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I would like to ask.....Kung ano mas ok na setup?? itong 100 series or the 10 series?
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Just audition yun 121 and 122, pair with Rotel RA-04SE and iPod Classic (Lossless file).
I agree na ok yun series 100, kahit 6ohms sila (power hunger) kaya naman sila drive ng integrated amp na 40watts.
Test ko sya sa mga genre ko.
Toto - Rosanna
Metallica - The God that failed
Kula Shaker - Govinda
Nina - Love moves in mysterious way (unplugged)
Alice in Chain - No Excuses (unplugged)
Lightning Seeds - You showed me
Nirvana - Smell like teen spirit
Prozak - I wanna be sedated
sa akin mga 3.5/5 - still medyo muddy parin yun mids nya, pero amazing value sya.
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Fairly new (exciting!) - not so much review tho (bummer!)
Medyo biased ako - started with the 8's wharfes, then the 9's. Now, there's 100's. Happy customer - so I'm staying with Wharfes.
As such, aside from my efforts to hunt down stores carrying the 100's (and/or 10's), I'm asking for the store representative (reading this) to PM me quotations for (if no quotes, just drop me your contact details - maybe early 3rd Qtr pa ako makakabili nito):
Diamond 155 and Diamond 10.5 (Front)
Diamond 102C and Diamond 10CM (Center)
Diamond 10.SR or 10.DFS (surrounds)
/ what's the equivalent for Surrounds anyway with 100's Series?
Thank you and let's liven-up this Topic
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Fairly new (exciting!) - not so much review tho (bummer!)
Medyo biased ako - started with the 8's wharfes, then the 9's. Now, there's 100's. Happy customer - so I'm staying with Wharfes.
As such, aside from my efforts to hunt down stores carrying the 100's (and/or 10's), I'm asking for the store representative (reading this) to PM me quotations for (if no quotes, just drop me your contact details - maybe early 3rd Qtr pa ako makakabili nito):
Diamond 155 and Diamond 10.5 (Front)
Diamond 102C and Diamond 10CM (Center)
Diamond 10.SR or 10.DFS (surrounds)
/ what's the equivalent for Surrounds anyway with 100's Series?
Thank you and let's liven-up this Topic
I think the 121 is the matched surround for the 100 series. I'm actually curious on the 121. I want to try it for my front/main speakers. I've read good reviews about it. Price is very good too. :)
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Anybody has any experience with the Jade 5 towers?
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any idea how much ang 156? thanks
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Fairly new (exciting!) - not so much review tho (bummer!)
Medyo biased ako - started with the 8's wharfes, then the 9's. Now, there's 100's. Happy customer - so I'm staying with Wharfes.
As such, aside from my efforts to hunt down stores carrying the 100's (and/or 10's), I'm asking for the store representative (reading this) to PM me quotations for (if no quotes, just drop me your contact details - maybe early 3rd Qtr pa ako makakabili nito):
Diamond 155 and Diamond 10.5 (Front)
Diamond 102C and Diamond 10CM (Center)
Diamond 10.SR or 10.DFS (surrounds)
/ what's the equivalent for Surrounds anyway with 100's Series?
Thank you and let's liven-up this Topic
I started out with dia 8's, 8.3 in particular, wh-2 center and surrounds and sw-150 subs. I upgraded the center to 9cs. I like the sound of wharfes. I'm now using 10.6 as front speakers and 10cm as center. I'm still using my sw-150 subs and the wh-2 surrounds. i'm planning to upgrade, if my budget permits, to the jade series.
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hi guys comment nmn anu mas pipiliin nyo para sa 5channels
dia 155 + 102C + 122(SR)
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dia 155 + 10CM+ 10DFS
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dia 10.6 + 10CM + 10DFS
thanks
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if you are to choose between the ff:
ano kaya mas ok?
dia 10.5 or 155
dia 10cs or 101c
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(http://www.wharfedale.com.tw/UploadFile/image/Diamond121_Review-02.jpg)
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havent auditioned the 121's yet, has anyone compared them to the old 10.1's? :)
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tested 121 already at the Listening room. price: P 6,400 cash price. maganda din ang tunog ganda sound quality as i close my eyes. pero when you open your eyes, naku yung itsura lang d ko gusto, masyado conservative. baka low resale value pag binenta ko second hand in the future. walang fancy cuts, just very simple looks, ang hirap pa buksan ng grille. pero in fairness maganda highs and mids. yung base malakas din even without sub to think na ang liit ng speakers na to. its amazing, haha. this is the arrival of newer technology..kakaiba kc meron cya opening slits sa lower portion. maybe wharfedale is testing the audiophile market kung kakagatin yung ganitong cabinet design..
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Yeah. I always thought the Diamond 10 series was gorgeous. I wonder what happened they had to cut corners on this new series, but it is said the 100 series employs better driver technology.
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Hi guys.
Ive read that this series is at 8ohms... Tama ba?
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Update guys! We just came from the listening room andjust finished setting up. Well, guess what. I brought my pioneer receiver there and plugged the wharfedale 155 then the polk audio tsx330 and we compared our favorite cd from fiona apple and the wharfedale 155 sounded very warm on my amp and sa polk eh masyado bright napagod ears namin after playing a couple of tracks. Sabi ni thoby (salesaman dun) that he was impressed sa receiver ko kasi labas na agad tunog eh nasa 8 o'clock palang yung volume knob and told me they wouldnt bother offering me the nad 326bee (fresh from delivery), kasi una pagdating namin while waiting for the 155 to arrive from the bodega eh they keep on telling me na maganda daw sa music ang naka integrated ampli and sakto meron silang nad na kakadating lang, tapos other salesmen there kept talking and peeping the internals with praises na tipong, pare japan pa gumawa nito at ang lalaki ng laman. So ayun. Sobrang natuwa kami that i have a perfect combo. Very warm sounding indeed. We also got a headphone stand there na naka varnish na yung brand is FIIO for 800 ata yun
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Update guys! We just came from the listening room andjust finished setting up. Well, guess what. I brought my pioneer receiver there and plugged the wharfedale 155 then the polk audio tsx330 and we compared our favorite cd from fiona apple and the wharfedale 155 sounded very warm on my amp and sa polk eh masyado bright napagod ears namin after playing a couple of tracks. Sabi ni thoby (salesaman dun) that he was impressed sa receiver ko kasi labas na agad tunog eh nasa 8 o'clock palang yung volume knob and told me they wouldnt bother offering me the nad 326bee (fresh from delivery), kasi una pagdating namin while waiting for the 155 to arrive from the bodega eh they keep on telling me na maganda daw sa music ang naka integrated ampli and sakto meron silang nad na kakadating lang, tapos other salesmen there kept talking and peeping the internals with praises na tipong, pare japan pa gumawa nito at ang lalaki ng laman. So ayun. Sobrang natuwa kami that i have a perfect combo. Very warm sounding indeed. We also got a headphone stand there na naka varnish na yung brand is FIIO for 800 ata yun
congrats sir:-)
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congrats bro!
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btw, ano pala gamit mong subwoofer jan bro?
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btw, ano pala gamit mong subwoofer jan bro?
No subwoofer bro since swabe na ang nya and im much into music kaya a stereo setup is perfect basta you have a powerful amp like mine then it would do the job lalabas agad ang tunog.
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Proud owner of wharfedale 155. :)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e187/markymark8386/IMG_20140116_211639_zpsdf17a0c0.jpg) (http://s39.photobucket.com/user/markymark8386/media/IMG_20140116_211639_zpsdf17a0c0.jpg.html)
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nice!
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that looks nice ! how big are the drivers on those floorstanders and what model are they ?
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that looks nice ! how big are the drivers on those floorstanders and what model are they ?
They have 6.5mm woofers and 25mm tweeters. Model is 155. Very warm speakers and outstanding build quality! Superb bass too. Ewan ko ba kung ano yung sinasabi ng watthifi sa reviews nila haha.
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Whathifi gave it a good review except for the finish.
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Yup. But i got mine in minty condition. :)
Got this from listening room.
Whathifi gave it a good review except for the finish.
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Got my 121s last month and the finish really sucks...
Bubbles on the laminated wood...
didnt notice it until i got home :(
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Proud owner of wharfedale 155. :)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e187/markymark8386/IMG_20140116_211639_zpsdf17a0c0.jpg) (http://s39.photobucket.com/user/markymark8386/media/IMG_20140116_211639_zpsdf17a0c0.jpg.html)
Is this a 2.1 set up?
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Sorry to hear that. You got too excited cguro to check.
Ill post close up pics tomorrow. :)
Got my 121s last month and the finish really sucks...
Bubbles on the laminated wood...
didnt notice it until i got home :(
Got my 121s last month and the finish really sucks...
Bubbles on the laminated wood...
didnt notice it until i got home :(
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Yung subs is for my HTIB.
Yung wharf 155 is dedicated for stereo only. :)
Is this a 2.1 set up?
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Nice...
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bubbles on the laminated wood...maybe covered pa cya ng return policy ng store. you can exchange it for the same unit.
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Siguro inayos na ng wharedale sa mga bagong batch yung finish nila. The recent 9 and 10 series had very nice fiinish to them. The Wharfedale Jade series has really good finishes too.
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Siguro inayos na ng wharedale sa mga bagong batch yung finish nila. The recent 9 and 10 series had very nice fiinish to them. The Wharfedale Jade series has really good finishes too.
Yes bro kaya kumpyansa ako na ito ang kunin and it exceeded my expectations. Best bang for the buck ika nga.
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Posting close up pics. Syensya na I have to use flash, madilim kasi sa sala ko.
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e187/markymark8386/IMG_20140118_162829_zpsf4808a38.jpg) (http://s39.photobucket.com/user/markymark8386/media/IMG_20140118_162829_zpsf4808a38.jpg.html)
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(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e187/markymark8386/IMG_20140118_162943_zpsadd5d5b3.jpg) (http://s39.photobucket.com/user/markymark8386/media/IMG_20140118_162943_zpsadd5d5b3.jpg.html)
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(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e187/markymark8386/IMG_20140118_163027_zps8a661d4d.jpg) (http://s39.photobucket.com/user/markymark8386/media/IMG_20140118_163027_zps8a661d4d.jpg.html)
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(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e187/markymark8386/IMG_20140118_163239_zps1d159318.jpg) (http://s39.photobucket.com/user/markymark8386/media/IMG_20140118_163239_zps1d159318.jpg.html)
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Yes bro kaya kumpyansa ako na ito ang kunin and it exceeded my expectations. Best bang for the buck ika nga.
Congrats po Sir! Kung hindi lang po ako nka 9.6 ngaun magupgrade to 155 or 159 po ako.
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Thanks po sir. Sulit talaga wharfedale! :)
Pansin ko ako lang ata sa pdvd ang bmili ng diamond 100 series hahaha! Walang nagpopost sa thread ako lang.
Congrats po Sir! Kung hindi lang po ako nka 9.6 ngaun magupgrade to 155 or 159 po ako.
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Thanks po sir. Sulit talaga wharfedale! :)
Pansin ko ako lang ata sa pdvd ang bmili ng diamond 100 series hahaha! Walang nagpopost sa thread ako lang.
Bka tahimik lng mga Wharfe owners d2 s pdvd... Haha!
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Have u guys tried biwiring? Any improvements?
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Thanks po sir. Sulit talaga wharfedale! :)
Pansin ko ako lang ata sa pdvd ang bmili ng diamond 100 series hahaha! Walang nagpopost sa thread ako lang.
meron pa dyan sir. lurker mode lang tuloy ka lang sa post ng review mo at pics. dami ganda review re audio sa kanya sa cosmetic department nga minsan sumasabit. sana nga na fix na nila mga issues na yan:)
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Have u guys tried biwiring? Any improvements?
Bi-wired ang 9.6 ko ever since... ni-try ko din lang e wala naman mawawala kung gagawin kasi sayang naman 4 binding posts ng Wharf e para saan ba un at dinesign nila un dba?
pero ung center ko single wire #16 na lang ginamit ko.
Key lang siguro sa speaker wiring e make it as practically thick as possible #14 or #16 para mas lumiit ang resistance ng wires for better Bass handling, at Equal Length ng L,C,R para sa resistance or maybe timing (although hindi naman lalampas ng 100m ang wire para ma-apektuhan ang timing) ;)
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bro,ask ko lang,nag improve ba ung sound nung nagbiwire ka? anong naging effect? im still abt to buy wharfe and i am thinking if i will bi wire it.
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bro,ask ko lang,nag improve ba ung sound nung nagbiwire ka? anong naging effect? im still abt to buy wharfe and i am thinking if i will bi wire it.
Di ko pa natry magsingle wiring sa mga fronts ko, pero it has something to do with the reflected waves coming from woofers stopping it from affecting mids and highs ng fronts. Kya good ang single wire but better ang bi-wiring and best ang bi-amping(Wharf are not capable of w/o modding).
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Hmm, wait, what? Aren't those posts just for main drivers and tweeters? If you don't have the metal bridge on those posts, then you'll need to bi-wire...you'll only hear either the main driver speakers or the tweeters if you don't...
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Hi guys. I just finished biwiring my 155 and pansin ko agad na nag improve yung bass nya tsaka soundstage and çlarity. Swabe na tumunog nung ordinary setup and mas naging swabe pa ngayong naka biwire na. Partida pa gamit ko lang wires is from deeco na 12awg ha. Di nako gumamit banana plugs kasi additional gastos lang. Test track ko pala is celine dion power of love album.
Mind you guys, this diamond 100 series are rated at 8ohms and has 89db sensitivity kaya gone are the days na mahirap daw i-drive kuno ang wharfedale.
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Hmm, wait, what? Aren't those posts just for main drivers and tweeters? If you don't have the metal bridge on those posts, then you'll need to bi-wire...you'll only hear either the main driver speakers or the tweeters if you don't...
those metal bridges were factory installed and must be removed when opt for bi-wiring.
2 Binding Post are for Low-Freq section,
the other 2 Binding Post are for Mid-Range and High Freq. section.
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Correct. As per user manual, the metal jumpers should be removed when bi-wiring. Thats what I also did.
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Does that mean you're using two channels per floorstander? or you just using one channel per floorstander.
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Pwede kang gumamit ng double runs of wire using one channel of stereo power amp: first run to LF and second run for HF...be sure to remove the metal plate connecting the binding post.
Another method is to use two (2) stereo power amp. Using double runs of speaker cable too. First run connected to first channel of stereo amp then the other end connected to LF of speaker. Second run connected to 2nd channel of stereo amp then the other end connected to HF of speaker...be sure to remove the metal plate connecting the binding post. Do the same thing for the remaining stereo amp and speaker.
(http://www.soundstage.com/synergize/pics/031998vbiamp.jpg)
Me, im using only the first method. True bi-wiring ang tawag kung double runs of wire ang gamit mo at 4x4 ang termination. Ang ibang bi wire kasi 2x4 ang termination. Experts said that true bi wires have less cross talk, less noise...pero doble gastos mo...pwedeng palitan mo na lang yung metal jumper mo ng same quality ng speaker cable mo kung gusto mong makatipid at ayaw mong mag bi wiring.
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If you're still using one channel from an amp but two wires, that's not different from just having one set of wires and those metal bridges (they're the same thing, you just spent more on speaker wiring). Speakers are in parallel either way. You change the gain, or move the crossover point, it happens to both speakers on the floor stander. No advantage whatsoever. If there is a difference now, then probably the metal bridges where not tightly making contact in the first place and the original wires were inadvertently on the tweeter posts.
You remove the metal bridge, and then use two channels (be it same amp or multi amps), then you're golden, you have control on the speakers Low-Mid and tweeters separately.
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If you're still using one channel from an amp but two wires, that's not different from just having one set of wires and those metal bridges (they're the same thing, you just spent more on speaker wiring). Speakers are in parallel either way. You change the gain, or move the crossover point, it happens to both speakers on the floor stander. No advantage whatsoever. If there is a difference now, then probably the metal bridges where not tightly making contact in the first place and the original wires were inadvertently on the tweeter posts.
You remove the metal bridge, and then use two channels (be it same amp or multi amps), then you're golden, you have control on the speakers Low-Mid and tweeters separately.
I think Bi-wiring should be discussed in a separate topic... ;)
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some reading why some of are utilizing the bi-wiring option of our loudspeakers.
clip from audioquest.com/UndrstndgBiWr.pdf
(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae331/Allan_2180/biwiring_zps47dcebbf.jpg)
and from Polk Audio article:
http://www.polkaudio.com/polk-university/articles/bi-wire (http://www.polkaudio.com/polk-university/articles/bi-wire)
(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae331/Allan_2180/biwiring2_zps55b1135e.jpg)
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Guys try deeco cables they are priced at 12awg 30php per meter lang and sobrang sulit. Mataba tumunog and clear output. :)
Ito yung color transparent/red.
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Guys try deeco cables they are priced at 12awg 30php per meter lang and sobrang sulit. Mataba tumunog and clear output. :)
Ito yung color transparent/red.
wag lang sana madaling ma-oxidize ung copper nyan,
kaya I invested in OFC cable.
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Yep. Will monitor oxidation. Its cheap naman so no harm on giving it a try. Its been 3mos and good pa din yung wires.
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Can you share why are you asking for a b&w speakers? Due to lack of budget might get the 155 so was monitoring any update on this thread.
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Sir panalo ang 155 and im a happy camper. ;) please check my previous posts on this thread. :)
Can you share why are you asking for a b&w speakers? Due to lack of budget might get the 155 so was monitoring any update on this thread.
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Auditioned the BS speaker at SnS. Was not impressed. Was wondering bakit mataas nakuha nya sa what hi-fi in terms of SQ. Ano kaya basis nila?
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Auditioned the BS speaker at SnS. Was not impressed. Was wondering bakit mataas nakuha nya sa what hi-fi in terms of SQ. Ano kaya basis nila?
Price? Isa pa di reliable ang what hi fi reviews..
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Bitin talaga bookshelfs kaya I got the 155 instead. :)
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Question mga sir, saan po kayo nakapagpurchase ng Diamond 100s nyo?
Purchased a 157 sa SnS nung December, paid upfront but nung delivery na wala silang dalang 157, hindi daw nakuha nung pickup nila. Tapos nagpadala sila sakin 155 (service unit) then ang sabi I have to wait nadaw ng January, then January came ang sabi naman March pa daw dadating. Texted them earlier and sabi wala nadaw padating na 157 kung gusto ko daw 155 nalang or yung 10.7 (I need to add cash pa daw for this), kaso gusto ko talaga yung 157 (kaya yun yung binili ko to begin with). Baka meron kayong alam na ibang seller na merong 157 para iparefund ko nalang yung pera ko and lipat nalang ako sa ibang seller.
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Question mga sir, saan po kayo nakapagpurchase ng Diamond 100s nyo?
Purchased a 157 sa SnS nung December, paid upfront but nung delivery na wala silang dalang 157, hindi daw nakuha nung pickup nila. Tapos nagpadala sila sakin 155 (service unit) then ang sabi I have to wait nadaw ng January, then January came ang sabi naman March pa daw dadating. Texted them earlier and sabi wala nadaw padating na 157 kung gusto ko daw 155 nalang or yung 10.7 (I need to add cash pa daw for this), kaso gusto ko talaga yung 157 (kaya yun yung binili ko to begin with). Baka meron kayong alam na ibang seller na merong 157 para iparefund ko nalang yung pera ko and lipat nalang ako sa ibang seller.
Try AVX in Harrison Plaza.
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San pwede mag audition ng Wharfedale? Looking at the 121, 122, or 155 but I wanna hear everything first before making a purchase. Checked Listening In Style at Shang earlier but they don't have Wharf demo units.
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Hi,
To the wharfedale 100 series BS owners, how did you mount it or install it as surround speakers, can you please share some pix as well, thanks.
Due to limited space in the room, speaker stands are out of the question for now, FYI.
Finally, anyone upgraded from 10.1 to the 100 series? I am confused if I should go the 10.1 or 100 series route. Aesthetics wise, I like the 10.1 more but since the rears will be wall mounted, I am worried the rear port might give some issues unlike the 100's which has a downfiring port.
Thanks.
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anyone who owns this Wharfedale Diamond HCP? any reviews on these speakers? mura na kasi sya for a set eh..good for starters na ba? planning to pair it with a yamaha avr.
(http://consumer.audiosure.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Diamond-HCP.jpg)
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anyone who owns this Wharfedale Diamond HCP? any reviews on these speakers? mura na kasi sya for a set eh..good for starters na ba? planning to pair it with a yamaha avr.
(http://consumer.audiosure.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Diamond-HCP.jpg)
I've read reviews here at PDVD saying that Wharfes pair well with Yammys. Since I had in mind these speakers and/or AAudio, I got a brand new Yammy few weeks back for my new condo.
Just reading more reviews now to decide which speakers to get.
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I auditioned the 155 and it was impressive. Very warm sounding ... vocals and instruments were clear, driven by Denon. Pero when we loaded movies, it completely lacked the highs. We changed the receiver to HK and maxed out the treble and gumanda siya (actually sobra sa high but at least I know meron ibibigay). Unfortunately when we tried this 155 with HK on audio, it wasn't as good anymore.
Am wondering if anyone is using this with Yamaha, and Kung ok ba siya? It's so affordable that I would like to consider this well. Thanks!
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I already got the center from the 100series. Just haven't had the time to hook it up. Still in the box for 2 months already. Pairing it with my Yammy 7.1 hope it goes well ;)
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wow. eggie. wharfedale and yamaha. sounds like a great set :).
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maganda daw yung jade series ?
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Wharf is best with pioneer and yamaha. Yan ang ampli na gamit ko on my 155. Warm sounding indeed.
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got my self a pair of 121 and 122s few days back. will be paring them with my 100 series center. though would be able to hook em up mid January until renovation of my crib finishes ... cant wait.
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sir, what receiver/amp are you going to use with your 121 and 122? just wondering 122 ba as fronts and 121 as surrounds? ty and hapi new year... :)
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sir, what receiver/amp are you going to use with your 121 and 122? just wondering 122 ba as fronts and 121 as surrounds? ty and hapi new year... :)
That's correct, 122 for front and 121 for rear. have the 100 series as well as center.
I will be pairing them Wharfedales with my Yamaha 573
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Im still looking for the best wall bracket that I can use for my 121s, any leads guys?
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What center speaker did you guys get from the Diamond 100 series? 101c or 102c? I'm wondering which one matches well with a pair of 122 bookshelf speakers as the front speakers.
Would also like to know what good wall brackets can be used for the 121s.
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Sa 155 nag 102c ako para same ang driver size baka kasi mabitin yung 101c. Ano ba size ng driver ng 122? Kasi sa 121 alam ko 101c ang bagay.
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Sa 155 nag 102c ako para same ang driver size baka kasi mabitin yung 101c. Ano ba size ng driver ng 122? Kasi sa 121 alam ko 101c ang bagay.
6.5" ang driver ng 122, same as the 102c. Thanks for the advice :)
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Hi guys ,
I have a setup of Yamaha A840 and Wharf 155 speakers i bought to tams , swabe ang tunog . ( not on bi wired setup ) . sayang hindi ko nakuha kay tams yung wireless sorround na polk . sana natesting ko na agad .
by the way newbie ako for this kind of HT setup .
regards,
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Im still looking for the best wall bracket that I can use for my 121s, any leads guys?
Anyone?
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To the 100 series owners, how didya guys attach your speaker cables, banana plugs, bfas or bare wire? Or spades? Can the 100 series accommodate any of these?
Thanks.
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banana plugs when compared to bare wire: i cannot notice any considerable improvement in the sound for that price.
the only advantage maybe is the ease of connecting the wires and disconnecting, and of course better looking gears with them.
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banana plugs when compared to bare wire: i cannot notice any considerable improvement in the sound for that price.
the only advantage maybe is the ease of connecting the wires and disconnecting, and of course better looking gears with them.
But, would BFA's work on the 100 series buddy?
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Mga boss makikijoin. Gamit ko rin po Wharfedale 100 series pair ng Yamaha 573. Nabili ko po ito last year yung Wharfedale 155+102C. Planning to buy pa next month ng 122 para sa surround.
Maganda tunog nya at bass. Yung bass lalong gumaganda habang tumatagal na ginagamit. :-)
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Mga boss makikijoin. Gamit ko rin po Wharfedale 100 series pair ng Yamaha 573. Nabili ko po ito last year yung Wharfedale 155+102C. Planning to buy pa next month ng 122 para sa surround.
Maganda tunog nya at bass. Yung bass lalong gumaganda habang tumatagal na ginagamit. :-)
We have the same amp, where did ya get it and how much? :)
Though I paired it with the 100 series center and BS only for both front and rear due to space constraints.
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Boss egzbuen sa Listening Room ko nabili AMP ko 2 years ago (P23k pa sya nun, via card hehehe), pero yung Speakers ko last Oct. 2014 ko lang nabili sa Listen Up Glorieta (P24k via card ulit, hehehe). :)
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Boss egzbuen sa Listening Room ko nabili AMP ko 2 years ago (P23k pa sya nun, via card hehehe), pero yung Speakers ko last Oct. 2014 ko lang nabili sa Listen Up Glorieta (P24k via card ulit, hehehe). :)
Nice.
Got my amp cheaper though. From them as well but from a sister company/shop of theirs. This was just last year. Nice amp so far :)
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Got a Wharfedale 155 with NAD 326BEE. Still in Break in period (about 10 hours playing time). very impressed with the bass, you can feel the punch. Highs are also good.
Played: Mettalica - Nothing Else Matter, One and Unforgiven
Eagles - Hotel California, Take it to the Limit
Bob Marley - One Love and Redemption Song
unable to appreciate much of the power, volume is about 9 o'clock... waiting for my neighbors to take a vacation to fully appreciate the power and soundstage at around 10 to 11 o'clock volume.
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First off, congrats on your system, sir! ;D
With that out of the way, please allow me to share my 50 centavos regarding power:
It's hard to appreciate without having experienced other amps, but the power is doing its job even at low volume. It's what's behind the quality of the bass you get.
Switch to a lower power amp and you'll feel the bass become boomy and muddled, conversely go to a higher powered amp and it gets tighter and cleaner.
Got to experienced this first hand when I upgraded my amp from a NAD C320 to a C372. Even using my budget Polk TSI300 speakers at the time, the improvement in bass was very drastic. I never knew what I was missing until I actually got the new amp, but it was a "I didn't know my speakers could sound this good" moment for me.
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First off, congrats on your system, sir! ;D
With that out of the way, please allow me to share my 50 centavos regarding power:
It's hard to appreciate without having experienced other amps, but the power is doing its job even at low volume. It's what's behind the quality of the bass you get.
Switch to a lower power amp and you'll feel the bass become boomy and muddled, conversely go to a higher powered amp and it gets tighter and cleaner.
Got to experienced this first hand when I upgraded my amp from a NAD C320 to a C372. Even using my budget Polk TSI300 speakers at the time, the improvement in bass was very drastic. I never knew what I was missing until I actually got the new amp, but it was a "I didn't know my speakers could sound this good" moment for me.
Thank you very much sir. I appreciate your input very much. At present, i am satisfied with the performance of both, and hopefully it will sound even better when fully breaked-in. :)
Still accumulating resources to complete my set-up, one step at a time. And being part of this thread will help me a lot to learn things i never encountered or learned before. Thank you.
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just bought a 121 from Listen Up in Glorietta. Can't wait to get back home and try it out with my amp and cD player (also bought from Listen Up).
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what amp will you pair your 121 sir? and what brand is your cd player? i guess its both nad.
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I don't have anything fancy as I am only starting again to put a system together after a very long rest, also thanks to pdvd for renewing my interest :-) . I got an old Marantz amp from OXL and the Pioneer PD 117 for my CDs, no HT yet. I am hoping that the 121 fits my other gears as I was not able to bring my amp to the store to try with the 121. So far, I liked what I heard at the store, the bass and voices etc.. But what seems to be missing is the sound of cymbals or hi-hat (ito ba yung ibig sabihin ng brightness?). I am hoping that I will hear more of the cymbals when I connect the 121 to my amp :-)
The NAD 326 amp is my next target, ipon muna :-). thanks!
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I don't have anything fancy as I am only starting again to put a system together after a very long rest, also thanks to pdvd for renewing my interest :-) . I got an old Marantz amp from OXL and the Pioneer PD 117 for my CDs, no HT yet. I am hoping that the 121 fits my other gears as I was not able to bring my amp to the store to try with the 121. So far, I liked what I heard at the store, the bass and voices etc.. But what seems to be missing is the sound of cymbals or hi-hat (ito ba yung ibig sabihin ng brightness?). I am hoping that I will hear more of the cymbals when I connect the 121 to my amp :-)
The NAD 326 amp is my next target, ipon muna :-). thanks!
same for my 10..walang kalansing
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correct, walang kalansing. But I am hoping, pag kinabit ko sa Marantz mag karoon din ng kalansing. Will provide update when I get home and try the 121 in my room.
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Im no expert but I find wharfedale as an envolving speaker. Un bang masarap pakingkan at hindi ka mapapagod makinig. Some speakers are good for critical listening na andun lahat ng nota at tama pagka bigkas pero some of them exhibits ear fatigue. Asa kabilang spectrum naman ung wharfedale. You wouldn't notice its shortcomings unless papakinggan mo ng mabuti pero masarap sa pandinig. Still remember when Im starting in audio, mas gusto ko tunog ng wharfs compared to celestions or yamaha. Masarap sa tenga ung warmth and kapal ng tunog.
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yung wharfe diamond 9.5 ko before nilagyan ko ng extra tweeter para magkaroon ng top end and as I remember it was sounding good nung may extra tweeter na nabuhay ika nga hehehe.
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Ako naman I find my 122 just right for my liking, paired with a Marantz PM 6005 parang floorstander mga tumunog eh :).
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just got back home and using the 121. I think I am happy :-) enjoying at this moment 'Any way you want it' by journey, with all the kalansing and bass. If ever I want to add extra tweeter, PM kita Remington for your expertise....thanks
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mas maganda ba pag may extra tweeter ang 121? e yung 121 e makalansing na unlike the 155.
how much naman po aabutin kaya aabutin pag nagpalagay ng extra tweeter?
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not sure. Let us ask Remington.. :-) sya may experience mag lagay ng extra tweeter.
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Mga Boss, hihingi lang sana ako ng inputs sa inyo. Wharfedale 155 at 102C nakakabit sa Yamaha 573. Si commander kasi mahilig magvideoke, pwede bang gamitin ang mga speakers sa videoke nya? Pag nagvivideoke si misis di na naman gaya ng mga biritan at din rin naman nakikipaglakasan ng kanta. Libangan nya lang pag nasa bahay. Kung bibili pa kasi ako ng speaker na pangvideoke nya, kulang na kulang na sa space. Salamat po.
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good luck na lang sir na wag masira yang speakers mo.
feedback ng microphone usually ang nakakasira ng tweeters. sayang naman yang wharfedales mo, mahal din yan.
at mahal magpa ayos ng speakers.
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Mga Boss, hihingi lang sana ako ng inputs sa inyo. Wharfedale 155 at 102C nakakabit sa Yamaha 573. Si commander kasi mahilig magvideoke, pwede bang gamitin ang mga speakers sa videoke nya? Pag nagvivideoke si misis di na naman gaya ng mga biritan at din rin naman nakikipaglakasan ng kanta. Libangan nya lang pag nasa bahay. Kung bibili pa kasi ako ng speaker na pangvideoke nya, kulang na kulang na sa space. Salamat po.
Your speakers won't last as the wharfs are not built for that.
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Hi! Need your experience and suggestions. What do you think is the best budget amplifier for the 121? :-) thanks!
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bro, try NAD 326bee integrated amp with your wharfe 121.
i tested that setup at Listening Room last month. nice combination for a budget setup, it will definitely make your wharfe 121 sing into its full potential.
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oks, will try the 326 bro. Hopefully I can go to Manila this month. thanks!
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Hi Guys, Im new here. Plano ko bumili ng diamond 10.7 or 157 for 2 channel set up. Ang tanong are they good in rock or metal music with double bass sounds? please any help...TIA.
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wharfe 157 is good enough for rock and metal music,provided you have powerful amp because wharfes are hard to drive speakers and it needs more amp juice for it to sing well.
you also need to have a powerful subwoofer for your type of music.not necessarily wharfedale sub but choose a sub brand with a minimum of 12 inches woofer.
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wharfe 157 is good enough for rock and metal music,provided you have powerful amp because wharfes are hard to drive speakers and it needs more amp juice for it to sing well.
you also need to have a powerful subwoofer for your type of music.not necessarily wharfedale sub but choose a sub brand with a minimum of 12 inches woofer.
Thanks for your input Sir, What amps do you suggest? I already have the Onkyo 636. Do I have to look for powerful amp? My room size is only 14x17 FT. It would be overkill with the 12'' sub?What do you think. Please give good advice...TIA
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for music, i suggest an integrated amplifier (for wharfedale speakers-pioneer integrated amps will do,puwede rin NAD amp.) since it is really built for music,not an AV receiver. your Onkyo 636 might not provide the amp juice you need for your speakers considering your type of music: rock,metal and contemporary type of music with double bass sounds.
Onkyo AV receivers are excellent in movies,but average only on music (especially your music preference) because of the reality today that manufacturers tend to pack unnecessary features and features you might even need at all (featuritis) just to compete in the mass market.
your room is considered small (as per standards of Wharfedale which provides that small room=20 sq.meters and below.)
even if your room is considered small, 12"sub is not overkill for your type of music with double bass sounds, it might even be the most appropriate under the circumstances which can generate low,deep subsonic bass for the music which you crave for.but it will not be appropriate for classical,jazz,instrumental, and voices type of music. puwede mo naman anytime hinaan ang volume pag medyo malakas pero pag kulang sa bass output, mas mahirap kasi your option would be to buy another sub.
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Just checked with Spectra and the price of 121 and 10.1 are about the same. Which one should I get? In terms of looks, the 10.1 wins, but I don't know about sound quality because they sound practically the same. What do you think?
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Just checked with Spectra and the price of 121 and 10.1 are about the same. Which one should I get? In terms of looks, the 10.1 wins, but I don't know about sound quality because they sound practically the same. What do you think?
One consideration of these speakers are their port holes. If your installing them in a tight place, or perhaps, near the wall, you might want to consider that the 10s porthole are at the rear compared to the 100s which are underneath.
Same considerations may be considered as well if the speakers will be placed in an entertainment cabinet.
Sent from hell
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just bought this afternoon from Spectra the 121 packaged with WH-C and WH-SR1 for 11.8k. I already have a Pro60 sub from Def Tech. Just what I need for my living room condo. Very satisfied, especially being a first time Wharf owner ;D. Warm sound nya, not fatiguing even for long music listening.
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Ended up getting the 10.1 after comparing with the 121 because of the sound quality and looks. Also got to audition the Elac Debut B4 which was really better but 3x the price. Decided to get value for money 10.1.
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Actually, planning on getting the 220 but I get interested in the package due to upgrade from Onkyo HTIB and also budget constraints :( I would want to get the 10.1 sana but the 121 seem to look more similar with the center and surrounds as far as looks is concerned. Satisfied naman ako so far, although since newbie here in HT very limited pa rin comparison ko with others. God bless.
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Wharfedale owners, anyone who upgraded to the 200 series? Need your input on the best matched AMP for 220's?
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for music, i suggest an integrated amplifier (for wharfedale speakers-pioneer integrated amps will do,puwede rin NAD amp.) since it is really built for music,not an AV receiver. your Onkyo 636 might not provide the amp juice you need for your speakers considering your type of music: rock,metal and contemporary type of music with double bass sounds.
Onkyo AV receivers are excellent in movies,but average only on music (especially your music preference) because of the reality today that manufacturers tend to pack unnecessary features and features you might even need at all (featuritis) just to compete in the mass market.
your room is considered small (as per standards of Wharfedale which provides that small room=20 sq.meters and below.)
even if your room is considered small, 12"sub is not overkill for your type of music with double bass sounds, it might even be the most appropriate under the circumstances which can generate low,deep subsonic bass for the music which you crave for.but it will not be appropriate for classical,jazz,instrumental, and voices type of music. puwede mo naman anytime hinaan ang volume pag medyo malakas pero pag kulang sa bass output, mas mahirap kasi your option would be to buy another sub.
replying this old thread ;D. thanks sir sa advice already have the integ amp just for 2.1 music set up. Yung receiver for ht nalang. problem ko now sa lakas kung mg patugtog tweeter ko bumigay hehe 2x na. mas powerful pla integ kaysa avr?
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Bought my amp for the Wharfedale 220's, paired it with a Sanui AU-D607X. The sound was very accurate, high, mid and low, you would not sense any lack of power. During the test though, the amp overpowered the speaker, I was playing Hotel California from Hell Freezes Over and one of the speakers hinted it can't take it anymore so I lowered the bass from +1 to -1 volume was probably at 11 o'clock. All was good after the session. When I took it home, I ran another set of music and it was fabulous. I can't say anything but wow.
I also tested some old school pioneer amps but none came to par with the Sansui. When i have a little more budget, I'll buy the 230's.