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Home Theater => Displays => Flat Panels => Topic started by: Klaus____ on Jul 24, 2013 at 12:23 AM
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Last July 5, my brother and I bought our very first LED TVs. Sa kanya 'yung 39E22 at sa akin 'yung 42E38. Nitong July 20, napansin ko na may bleeding na sa four corners of the screen ng TV ko. (July 22 nang napansin ng brother ko na meron na ring bleeding sa TV nya) Hindi naman sya visible while watching movies. Actually, kahit sa mga dark scenes balewala lang. My main concern is -- if the bleeding showed up in less than a month (15 days, to be exact), what would it look like in a year, or two years (duration of warranty)? Would that affect my TV viewing then? I have taken pictures of the bleeding so you could actually see what I see. (same Picture Mode)
Here is the picture taken last July 20. As you can see, the bleeding can only be seen on the four corners of the screen.
(http://i.imgur.com/K1PMGuxl.jpg)
Here is the picture just now (July 24). Noticeably, the bleeding is starting to build up as well on the upper and lower portions of the screen, NOT only on the four corners.
(http://i.imgur.com/mM3WkSPl.jpg)
These units are actually for replacement already, and we are just waiting for stocks to come in. Isa pang concern ko is baka 'yung ipapalit na units ay magkaroon din ng similar issues. If that would be the case, we would be forced to have them replaced again, but it would probably be to another brand/model. That being said, siguro I would be needing your opinions mga master kung anong brand/model ang better replacements.
Direct links of images:
http://i.imgur.com/J3ExOxy.jpg - July 20
http://i.imgur.com/8rAuSU5.jpg - July 24
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thats a very common issue with led's, yours isnt that bad pa nga. My samsung has worst big bright spots than those.
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Just enjoy effinn... Movie. ;D
Forget about the bleeding or use a crt instead ;D
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Just enjoy effinn... Movie. ;D
Forget about the bleeding or use a crt instead ;D
I admire your insight, sir! ::) I think you may have skipped the part where I mentioned what my main concern is. Hence, you weren't able to see that I was asking what it would be like in a year...or two years time. ;D Thanks!
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ganan din yung 42ls5700 ko pagmadilim. pero may angle lang na makikita mo sya.
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ganan din yung 42ls5700 ko pagmadilim. pero may angle lang na makikita mo sya.
Ilang taon na po unit nyo, sir? Ganyan din unit nyo, meaning kahit may pinapanood ay visible sya?
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Just enjoy effinn... Movie. ;D
Forget about the bleeding or use a crt instead ;D
Magandang quote for the day ito. :D
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Ilang taon na po unit nyo, sir? Ganyan din unit nyo, meaning kahit may pinapanood ay visible sya?
7months. hindi naman sya pansinin pag nanonood.
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its normal for LED TVs esp edge-lit LED TVs displaying black image...
more obvious pag patay pa mga ilaw.
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For some tv models (edge lit LED) that's normal. If you are particular on the bleeding, I noticed those high end Samsung models have better uniformity. Or you can consider plasma.
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ganan din yung 42ls5700 ko pagmadilim. pero may angle lang na makikita mo sya.
my 11-month old LS5700 also has some slight bleeding but only noticeable pag widescreen movies. That's the only time na mapapansin but it's not as bad as what yosiboi posted.
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thats a very common issue with led's, yours isnt that bad pa nga. My samsung has worst big bright spots than those.
Sa ngayon po (less than a month), pero paano na pag more than a year na ang unit?
Magandang quote for the day ito. :D
;D
7months. hindi naman sya pansinin pag nanonood.
Ganun din unit ko, sir! Kaso nga less than a month pa lang, "dinatnan" na ;D
its normal for LED TVs esp edge-lit LED TVs displaying black image...
more obvious pag patay pa mga ilaw.
Ang pagkakasabi po kasi sa 'kin ng salesman ay D-LED daw 'yung Skyworth model na nakuha ko. They even have a brochure for it (E38), pero nawala ko na yata 'yung brochure sayang!
For some tv models (edge lit LED) that's normal. If you are particular on the bleeding, I noticed those high end Samsung models have better uniformity. Or you can consider plasma.
Speaking of Plasma, ilan nga ba ang average wattage ng Plasma TVs, and nasa magkano naman kaya ang difference sa electric bill pag Plasma ang gamit mo? ;D (pero OT na 'yun, so nevermind my question po)
my 11-month old LS5700 also has some slight bleeding but only noticeable pag widescreen movies. That's the only time na mapapansin but it's not as bad as what yosiboi posted.
Mapapansin lang naman 'yung bleeding ng unit ko kapag naglilipat ng channel or kung blocked channel ang hinintuan ko. Ang kinakatakot ko lang talaga ay baka pagtagal ay maging ganito kasakit ang ulo ko pag lumala:
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,167985.0.html
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Maganda siguro mods, paki merge ito sa post ko, since same problem kami
thanks
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yeah but normal lang yung bleeding talaga pag edge lit. even top tier tvs still suffer from bleeding basta edge-lit. yung thread na nilink mo was about a plasma tv yata that went byebye bigla. I doubt if the backlight bleeding will cause your tv to die ng biglaan.
best option for tipid sa kuryente (pero sobrang mahal ng presyo) - full-array backlight with local dimming.
best option if kuryente is not an issue- plasma (usually ranging ang wattage from 200+ to 300+)
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yeah but normal lang yung bleeding talaga pag edge lit. even top tier tvs still suffer from bleeding basta edge-lit. yung thread na nilink mo was about a plasma tv yata that went byebye bigla. I doubt if the backlight bleeding will cause your tv to die ng biglaan.
Nope Sir my post is about my edge lit LED na nag backlight bleeding na rin (kung normal ba ito), also bought July 6 lang (MY VIEW brand). Then after a week BOOM lumala na yung bleedings. You & Sir Philip has some insights also sa thread ko, I was saying that I regret buying LED na sana plasma na lang binili ko since power consumption is ok naman sa akin kung may peace of mind naman ako hehe.
Since same kami ng dilemma ni Sir TS, kaya sana suggestion ko is merge the thread with mine, since I posted mine earlier with the same problem.
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assuming lang di na pwede ibalik ang tv for replacement, only option is to watch with lights on para di halata yung backlight bleeding?
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When you say LOCAL DIMMING, ito ba yung feature ng Hi-End Samsung na MICRO-DIMMING???? hmmmm... :)
To the TS:
Don't get me wrong, hehe!!! Normal talaga yan sa LED tv or LCD tv for that matter. Parang the less you spend the more the bleeding... ;D Inversely proportional sa bleeding ng bulsa mo hehe!!!
As for me, as long as acceptable naman sya for normal viewing, will not be bothered. Ngayon kung dumating ang time na maputla na talaga ang picture no matter what the setting, then Houston, we have a problem. ;D
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Nope Sir my post is about my edge lit LED na nag backlight bleeding na rin (kung normal ba ito), also bought July 6 lang (MY VIEW brand). Then after a week BOOM lumala na yung bleedings. You & Sir Philip has some insights also sa thread ko, I was saying that I regret buying LED na sana plasma na lang binili ko since power consumption is ok naman sa akin kung may peace of mind naman ako hehe.
Since same kami ng dilemma ni Sir TS, kaya sana suggestion ko is merge the thread with mine, since I posted mine earlier with the same problem.
Plasma also has its CONs. :)
Unless you watch almost always in dark room then it will be better for you. Malakas kasi reflection nito parang CRT tv. At mas wide ang viewing angle nya. Actually, yan din sana kukunin ko, pero I'm glad I went for a LED tv since sa room ko nilagay at kaharap nya ay isang dambuhalang bintana! ;D
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Nope Sir my post is about my edge lit LED na nag backlight bleeding na rin (kung normal ba ito), also bought July 6 lang (MY VIEW brand). Then after a week BOOM lumala na yung bleedings. You & Sir Philip has some insights also sa thread ko, I was saying that I regret buying LED na sana plasma na lang binili ko since power consumption is ok naman sa akin kung may peace of mind naman ako hehe.
Since same kami ng dilemma ni Sir TS, kaya sana suggestion ko is merge the thread with mine, since I posted mine earlier with the same problem.
haha nauna lang yung post mo sir but that was in reply to yosiboi's post, not yours. :D
assuming lang di na pwede ibalik ang tv for replacement, only option is to watch with lights on para di halata yung backlight bleeding?
i read that having a bias lighting helps daw. i keep forgetting to try it kasi wala akong mahanap dito. I haven't had time to check hardware stores yet though.
yung ganito:
http://www.amazon.com/Antec-Halo-LED-Bias-Lighting/dp/B0053B347M
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^kaso magwork lang yata yan sir if nakawall mount yung tv?
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^kaso magwork lang yata yan sir if nakawall mount yung tv?
or if nakastand basta malapit sa wall sir. as long as the light bounces off.
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To the TS:
Don't get me wrong, hehe!!! Normal talaga yan sa LED tv or LCD tv for that matter. Parang the less you spend the more the bleeding... ;D Inversely proportional sa bleeding ng bulsa mo hehe!!!
Hahaha! Natawa ako dito! >:D ;D
Ngayon kung dumating ang time na maputla na talaga ang picture no matter what the setting, then Houston, we have a problem. ;D
Dito ako kinakabahan! :-\
Since same kami ng dilemma ni Sir TS, kaya sana suggestion ko is merge the thread with mine, since I posted mine earlier with the same problem.
May point si sir chrisbulog :) Nakita ko 'yung thread mo sa gallery, hanep! Sayang lang at bleeding na pala unit mo. :(
i read that having a bias lighting helps daw. i keep forgetting to try it kasi wala akong mahanap dito. I haven't had time to check hardware stores yet though.
yung ganito:
http://www.amazon.com/Antec-Halo-LED-Bias-Lighting/dp/B0053B347M
Nice! Nakakatulong ba talaga 'to?
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mas less ba ang chance ng backlight bleeding for bigger tvs like 50" and above?
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mas less ba ang chance ng backlight bleeding for bigger tvs like 50" and above?
IMHO, wala sa size, nasa model... I believe its the technology employed on higher end models that makes the difference.
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haha nauna lang yung post mo sir but that was in reply to yosiboi's post, not yours. :D
Ah ok Sir hehe, sorry sa misunderstanding.
Dun sa bias lighting, same lang ba yun nung mga led flourescent lights na nabibili sa Ace hardware?
I installed mine na color blue, it helped naman sa eye fatigue but sa backlight bleedings ganun pa rin e, at mas lalong naging visible sya hehe.
Here a pic nung 1st week nung LED ko, di pa gaano visible bleedings dito. Will post pic tomorrow nung bleedings na nya ngayon.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k4/bulog/ledlights_zps2bd464d9.jpg) (http://s84.photobucket.com/user/bulog/media/ledlights_zps2bd464d9.jpg.html)
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Ah ok Sir hehe, sorry sa misunderstanding.
Dun sa bias lighting, same lang ba yun nung mga led flourescent lights na nabibili sa Ace hardware?
I installed mine na color blue, it helped naman sa eye fatigue but sa backlight bleedings ganun pa rin e, at mas lalong naging visible sya hehe.
Here a pic nung 1st week nung LED ko, di pa gaano visible bleedings dito. Will post pic tomorrow nung bleedings na nya ngayon.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k4/bulog/ledlights_zps2bd464d9.jpg) (http://s84.photobucket.com/user/bulog/media/ledlights_zps2bd464d9.jpg.html)
same but might have a slightly different effect if it was white light.
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same but might have a slightly different effect if it was white light.
thanks sa suggestion, hanap ako white sa Ace to see if there's gonna be some improvements.
@TS pls try mo rin ito baka this will help u also
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thanks sa suggestion, hanap ako white sa Ace to see if there's gonna be some improvements.
@TS pls try mo rin ito baka this will help u also
'Yun nga tatanong ko sana eh, if may scientific explanation ba na nagiging less ang bleeding or psychological lang 'to? ;D Pag na-replace na unit ko, bili ako nyan! Thanks!
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Nope Sir my post is about my edge lit LED na nag backlight bleeding na rin (kung normal ba ito), also bought July 6 lang (MY VIEW brand). Then after a week BOOM lumala na yung bleedings. You & Sir Philip has some insights also sa thread ko, I was saying that I regret buying LED na sana plasma na lang binili ko since power consumption is ok naman sa akin kung may peace of mind naman ako hehe.
Since same kami ng dilemma ni Sir TS, kaya sana suggestion ko is merge the thread with mine, since I posted mine earlier with the same problem.
Hello Chris, is your TV purchased from Sights and Sounds. If so, you can send it back and replace to upgrade for another TV.
This is how we take care of our customers. Buying a wrong choice of TV (either wrong size, wrong tech, plasma vs LED, not the right brand, not the right model, etc) is not an issue at Sights and Sounds. Sights and Sounds will not run away your money after you wish to return your wrong choice of purchase.
Here is our promise:
TV 30 Day Replacement Guarantee
In the event that a TV is defective within the first 30 days of the invoice date, Sights and Sounds will replace a new unit of the same model at no expense to the customer. This covers almost any defect [dead pixel, backlight bleeding, etc.] that cannot be repaired in home or office with simple troubleshooting or adjustment. Please simply contact Sights and Sounds by phone at 634-1789 to 90 with a description of any problem you may be having and we will arrange for a replacement unit.
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Hello Chris, is your TV purchased from Sights and Sounds. If so, you can send it back and replace to upgrade for another TV.
This is how we take care of our customers. Buying a wrong choice of TV (either wrong size, wrong tech, plasma vs LED, not the right brand, not the right model, etc) is not an issue at Sights and Sounds. Sights and Sounds will not run away your money after you wish to return your wrong choice of purchase.
Here is our promise:
TV 30 Day Replacement Guarantee
In the event that a TV is defective within the first 30 days of the invoice date, Sights and Sounds will replace a new unit of the same model at no expense to the customer. This covers almost any defect [dead pixel, backlight bleeding, etc.] that cannot be repaired in home or office with simple troubleshooting or adjustment. Please simply contact Sights and Sounds by phone at 634-1789 to 90 with a description of any problem you may be having and we will arrange for a replacement unit.
Sad to say Sir Vic, the unit was purchase outside pdvd, on sulit ko po ito nabili....at di maganda after sales nila.
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Sad to say Sir Vic, the unit was purchase outside pdvd, on sulit ko po ito nabili....at di maganda after sales nila.
Yun ang scary part. Kaya for me, even if other sellers come out a little cheaper, dito pa din sa kilalang sellers ng PDvd, lalo na yun mga brick and mortar stores dito.
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Yun ang scary part. Kaya for me, even if other sellers come out a little cheaper, dito pa din sa kilalang sellers ng PDvd, lalo na yun mga brick and mortar stores dito.
Ganun din ako, mas gusto ko 'yung brick and mortar stores for peace of mind! ;)
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ngayon ko lang narealize,skyworth pala tong tv na binili ni brader.. ???
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ngayon ko lang narealize,skyworth pala tong tv na binili ni brader.. ???
Skyworth? Hindi ba My View? O same lang yan?
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for "slim"-type (edgelit) LED and CCFL ("fat") LCD tvs, yes. unfortunately. :(
this is why I prefer plasma or full array LED tvs.
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Skyworth? Hindi ba My View? O same lang yan?
Skyworth yung kay TS, sa akin naman po yung My View, but same bleeding problem
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may tanong ako mga bro at wag sana masamain..bukod sa mura,ano pa nga ba reason mo bat ka bibili ng ganitong tv (skyworth,myview,etc)?
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may tanong ako mga bro at wag sana masamain..bukod sa mura,ano pa nga ba reason mo bat ka bibili ng ganitong tv (skyworth,myview,etc)?
features (i.e. 3D, 120hz) and size-to-price ratio. :)
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features (i.e. 3D, 120hz) and size-to-price ratio. :)
kaso if you skim across the flat panel threads,more trouble than it's worth..correct?
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kaso if you skim across the flat panel threads,more trouble than it's worth..correct?
Pati yata yung Devant ganyan din mga problema...
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Medyo OT ng onti, pero napansin ko lang, parang hindi rin naman substantial ang difference ng price ng not so known brands against the big brands. Minsan nga mas mahal pa yung mga models nila... :(
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Medyo OT ng onti, pero napansin ko lang, parang hindi rin naman substantial ang difference ng price ng not so known brands against the big brands. Minsan nga mas mahal pa yung mga models nila... :(
noticed this too.kaya imho,hindi ko majustify ang purchase ng not so known brands vs yung big name one.
:(
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noticed this too.kaya imho,hindi ko majustify ang purchase ng not so known brands vs yung big name one.
:(
Magtake risk lang siguro ako kung 50% ang price difference at the same specs. Or yung tipong hindi masyadong gagamitin, say para sa kusina or garahe or work area etc...
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Ganyan din sa Samsung na nabili ko. But I was just too lazy to return it for warranty. Hassle and I dont think theres a guarantee since LEDs are prone namane talaga sa ganiyan. After more than a year, hindi naman siya lumala. If it gets worse, may rason na magpalit uli.
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Just a thought, nakakatulong ba ang AVR servo motor or a UPS para malessen or even prevent backlight bleeding?
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Just a thought, nakakatulong ba ang AVR servo motor or a UPS para malessen or even prevent backlight bleeding?
IMO, wala sa power ang cause nyan, kundi nasa design ng TV mismo.
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IMO, wala sa power ang cause nyan, kundi nasa design ng TV mismo.
sabagay sir, akala ko thing of the past na yung backlight bleeding sa mga LED tvs. kahit din ba sa mga flagship LED tvs issue din ang BL bleeding? mabenta pa man din 'tong dalawang brands na ito dahil sa size-to-price ratio. sana mapalitan asap yung tv ni TS or if may option sya kagaya ng offer ni sir vic of SnS mas maganda magpalit na lang sya to plasma tv
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may tanong ako mga bro at wag sana masamain..bukod sa mura,ano pa nga ba reason mo bat ka bibili ng ganitong tv (skyworth,myview,etc)?
cheap price Sir...tempting price for a LED tv...di ko na naisip na cheap quality rin.
I got my 42 in LED MyView for 18k vs. branded 40 in LED starting at 27k (based on SnS price lists July 2013)
Nagmadali kasi ako to get rid of my faulty (dust like particles) nung Panasonic LCD ko (42u20), sold it for 12k & ayun dagdag lang ng konti at may LED na ako....kaso...ayun sakit pa rin pala sa ulo, did'nt experience this with my Panny e.
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cheap price Sir...tempting price for a LED tv...di ko na naisip na cheap quality rin.
I got my 42 in LED MyView for 18k vs. branded 40 in LED starting at 27k (based on SnS price lists July 2013)
Nagmadali kasi ako to get rid of my faulty (dust like particles) nung Panasonic LCD ko (42u20), sold it for 12k & ayun dagdag lang ng konti at may LED na ako....kaso...ayun sakit pa rin pala sa ulo, did'nt experience this with my Panny e.
Sana nagSamsung Plasma ka na lang dagdag lang ng onti, 43 inch plasma na yun. Yun nga lang HD-ready lang hehe pero walang bleeding ;D
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yung sa akin matagal ko ng natanggap na may bleeding talaga ang LED, during testing nga paghinanap mo mapapansin mo talaga. pero ako lang ang nakakapansin dito, lahat ng tao sa amin parang wala lang :)
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yeah but normal lang yung bleeding talaga pag edge lit. even top tier tvs still suffer from bleeding basta edge-lit. yung thread na nilink mo was about a plasma tv yata that went byebye bigla. I doubt if the backlight bleeding will cause your tv to die ng biglaan.
best option for tipid sa kuryente (pero sobrang mahal ng presyo) - full-array backlight with local dimming.
best option if kuryente is not an issue- plasma (usually ranging ang wattage from 200+ to 300+)
hehehe..tama, buti full array led backlight w/local dimming nalang if u dont like plasma panel.
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may tanong ako mga bro at wag sana masamain..bukod sa mura,ano pa nga ba reason mo bat ka bibili ng ganitong tv (skyworth,myview,etc)?
for casual viewing...
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buti na lang sa SnS ako bumili ng tv...
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Buti na lang at PANASONIC nabili ko kaso meron din kahit papaano itong nabili ko imagine display unit ng tindahan ito PANASONIC TH-L42DT50M ang model 1600 mhz ips LED TV meron pa ding bleeding kahit konte...Di ata talaga maiiwasan....pero kapag night yung scene eh talagang wala kang makikitang bleeding....
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sa smaller tv's po ba visible din ito? sa 32LH70YR ko, 3-years na pero uniform naman ang distribution ng backlight kahit total darkness... 8)
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sa smaller tv's po ba visible din ito? sa 32LH70YR ko, 3-years na pero uniform naman ang distribution ng backlight kahit total darkness... 8)
I think CCFL pa ang backlight ng model na ito, mas uniform talaga ito compare sa edge-lit LEDs.
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Ang pagkakasabi po kasi sa 'kin ng salesman ay D-LED daw 'yung Skyworth model na nakuha ko. They even have a brochure for it (E38), pero nawala ko na yata 'yung brochure sayang!
Ganito po 'yung nakalagay sa brochure na sinasabi kong ipinakita sa 'kin nung nasa store ako --
(http://i.imgur.com/MPHKfCPl.png) - Direct LED
SOURCE: http://www.iskyworth.com/upload/201342338727181.pdf - 42E38 (my unit) is Direct LED TV and NOT Edgelit LED TV according to this brochure/catalogue
Ang sabi kasi sa 'kin ng store personnel dun pati na may-ari ng store (through PM) na HINDI "Direct LED" ang Skyworth model na nabili ko, kundi "Edgelit LED TV".
So, tama po ba ang brochure at mali ang mga store personnel (pati na may-ari ng store)...OR...mali ang brochure at tama ang mga store personnel (pati na may-ari ng store)? :-\
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any suggestions on where pwede pacheck ang sharp tv?
this morning, after turning it on for a few minutes, bigla yun left half picture naging blurred/malabo, but the right side is ok. thanks
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Yes, the 32LH70YR is a LCD which uses CCFL back lights. Those mas uniform ang light distribution sa LCD, LED has deeper blacks. LED has sometimes over saturated and inaccurate colors however once you have the colors and brightness under control, I believe LED has the advantage.
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may tanong ako mga bro at wag sana masamain..bukod sa mura,ano pa nga ba reason mo bat ka bibili ng ganitong tv (skyworth,myview,etc)?
ako skyworth din c/o SnS last nov2012, 42 led 120hz @ 23k(ata), 80% tv viewing & 20% movie & ps3
2 years warranty and SnS recommended...in sir vic we trust :D
and yes..my slight hint of backlight bleeding, pero sa household namin..ako lang nakaka-kita nito..no biggie ;)
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ako skyworth din c/o SnS last nov2012, 42 led 120hz @ 23k(ata), 80% tv viewing & 20% movie & ps3
2 years warranty and SnS recommended...in sir vic we trust :D
and yes..my slight hint of backlight bleeding, pero sa household namin..ako lang nakaka-kita nito..no biggie ;)
Care to share the model of your Skyworth, sir? 'Yung 3D din ba 'yan?
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Care to share the model of your Skyworth, sir? 'Yung 3D din ba 'yan?
no 3d... 42e62 ata ito
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no 3d... 42e62 ata ito
Salamat, sir! Hopefully, 'yung replacement unit namin would last a lot longer ::)
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Sad to say Sir Vic, the unit was purchase outside pdvd, on sulit ko po ito nabili....at di maganda after sales nila.
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sana meron Sns dito sa Cebu City :-(
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sana meron Sns dito sa Cebu City :-(
Sure, will consider. Thanks. :)
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the bold statement above is not TRUE!
bought thrice sa SnS..but sadly they charge delivery..even if the address is just 15-20 mins away from shang..I have to give in to the delivery charge at the third time since the unit is a 51" plasma TV..
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the bold statement above is not TRUE!
bought thrice sa SnS..but sadly they charge delivery..even if the address is just 15-20 mins away from shang..I have to give in to the delivery charge at the third time since the unit is a 51" plasma TV..
Ay, sorry, my bad. We used to give free delivery during those early years (before 2012). At that time when TVs were still at high price, we threw away free delivery. A 32" at P35K at that time with a profit of P1750. or 5% is affordable for free delivery. But recent drop price of 32" at P13K with 5% profit only generate P650., which can hardly support the delivery expense. It is for this reason that we now charge delivery.
The right provision should be:
Provide delivery and installation of electronics on the same day (not Provide free delivery and installation of electronics on the same day).
Apology for the error due to the carelessness in posting the statement.
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^ no worries sir..at least the provision for free delivery gets corrected.. ^-^
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^ no worries sir..at least the provision for free delivery gets corrected.. ^-^
Next time, if you need any electronic purchase, call me direct 09175413491. Will give you discounted price, plus freebie. :)
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Sorry for the O.T. Sir TS
Very well said Sir Vic, next time na mag upgrade uli ako...101% na sa inyo na ulit ako kukuha, para no worries. ;D
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Sorry for the O.T. Sir TS
Very well said Sir Vic, next time na mag upgrade uli ako...101% na sa inyo na ulit ako kukuha, para no worries. ;D
Hehe! No need to apologize, sir! ;)
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imho,the chances of getting a lemon unit with the bigger name brands are less (correct me if i'm wrong ha) vs the not so branded ones..
also,i'm sure everyone has heard the 'you get what you pay for' cliche'. :)
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backlight bleeding of my 6 day old LG 42LA6130. I'm planning po na change the unit tomorrow po sa SnS.
(http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/3853/4qxc.jpg)
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^I'm proven wrong agad ;D
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^I'm proven wrong agad ;D
Na-myth busters ka kaagad in less than 7 hours.
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Na-myth busters ka kaagad in less than 7 hours.
correct! ;D
Pero di mo pa din ako mapapagamit ng no name brands,pwera kung bigay ;D
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may tanong ako mga bro at wag sana masamain..bukod sa mura,ano pa nga ba reason mo bat ka bibili ng ganitong tv (skyworth,myview,etc)?
correct! ;D
Pero di mo pa din ako mapapagamit ng no name brands,pwera kung bigay ;D
I think the simplest explanation could be this: original DVDs VS pirated ones -- they're both NOT scratch-proof, and thus both has its flaws no matter how huge their difference is in prices. ;) Also, I don't think it's right to define these new guys in the market as "no name brands". Remember back in the days? HP and IBM were such huge names in the computer industry and Lenovo was the "new guy". Nowadays, of those three, which brand of laptops do you usually see being used by yuppies? ;)
I could give out a LOT of examples and comparisons between branded and non-branded products (not only TVs) which are out in the market now, but that's a totally different topic and it's gonna take longer than a single response to reiterate on those things. ;) Good day, sir!
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I think the simplest explanation could be this: original DVDs VS pirated ones -- they're both NOT scratch-proof, and thus both has its flaws no matter how huge their difference is in prices. ;) Also, I don't think it's right to define these new guys in the market as "no name brands". Remember back in the days? HP and IBM were such huge names in the computer industry and Lenovo was the "new guy". Nowadays, of those three, which brand of laptops do you usually see being used by yuppies? ;)
I could give out a LOT of examples and comparisons between branded and non-branded products (not only TVs) which are out in the market now, but that's a totally different topic and it's gonna take longer than a single response to reiterate on those things. ;) Good day, sir!
its all good bro.to each his own naman yan,I'm sure we could agree on that. :) all I'm saying is,too risky IMHO mga ganung brands..we can agree to disagree :)
Sana maayos na yung issue sa TVs nyo ni Chrisbulog.. ;)
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its all good bro.to each his own naman yan,I'm sure we could agree on that. :) all I'm saying is,too risky IMHO mga ganung brands..we can agree to disagree :)
Sana maayos na yung issue sa TVs nyo ni Chrisbulog.. ;)
Thanks for understanding, pafs! ;) Sana nga...takot lang kasi ako sa after-sales service/support ng LG eh ;D
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Thanks for understanding, pafs! ;) Sana nga...takot lang kasi ako sa after-sales service/support ng LG eh ;D
AFAIK, mahusay ang after sales service and support ng LG.
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backlight bleeding of my 6 day old LG 42LA6130. I'm planning po na change the unit tomorrow po sa SnS.
(http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/3853/4qxc.jpg)
bro just a recommendation, if the unit is under 7 days. try the myview tv as a replacement :)
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simple solution just dont view this tv in a dark room.
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^_Korak.... ;D ;D ;D
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backlight bleeding of my 6 day old LG 42LA6130. I'm planning po na change the unit tomorrow po sa SnS.
(http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/3853/4qxc.jpg)
di ba direct LED na ang LA6130 ng LG? may backlight bleeding pa rin? :-\
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di ba direct LED na ang LA6130 ng LG? may backlight bleeding pa rin? :-\
Ou direct led na baka naman talaga my bleeding pa din kahit directled and ips panel.
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Ou direct led na baka naman talaga my bleeding pa din kahit directled and ips panel.
yikes! iwas led tv na talaga ako.
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yikes! iwas led tv na talaga ako.
Depende yan bro not all LED or LCDTV ay may bleeding like my LG scarlet 32 inch 2009 pa wala pa din bleeding and issue. >:D >:D
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Hmmm... Pardon my ignorance on the matter, but do leds that display backlight bleeding issues 'get worse' with time.
When i bought my lg42lm6200, i did notice minimal backlight bleeding that becomes visible in total black scenses. This really wasnt an issue for me since i expected this from an edgelit model. Besides, the overall pq, and other features this model offered made this very easy to ignore for its price.
Pero again, back to the question at hand... Does backlight bleeding get worse as the screen becomes more used?
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Hmmm... Pardon my ignorance on the matter, but do leds that display backlight bleeding issues 'get worse' with time.
When i bought my lg42lm6200, i did notice minimal backlight bleeding that becomes visible in total black scenses. This really wasnt an issue for me since i expected this from an edgelit model. Besides, the overall pq, and other features this model offered made this very easy to ignore for its price.
Pero again, back to the question at hand... Does backlight bleeding get worse as the screen becomes more used?
yes. our Samsung 32E4003 has backlight bleeding on practically its entire panel! :-\ it looked nice when it was brand new.
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Hmmm... Pardon my ignorance on the matter, but do leds that display backlight bleeding issues 'get worse' with time.
When i bought my lg42lm6200, i did notice minimal backlight bleeding that becomes visible in total black scenses. This really wasnt an issue for me since i expected this from an edgelit model. Besides, the overall pq, and other features this model offered made this very easy to ignore for its price.
Pero again, back to the question at hand... Does backlight bleeding get worse as the screen becomes more used?
Sir, eto po message sakin ni sir Vic regarding sa bleeding:
(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/9156/c9rf.jpg)
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simple solution just dont view this tv in a dark room.
And worry about the movie, not the tv.. ;D
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yes. our Samsung 32E4003 has backlight bleeding on practically its entire panel! :-\ it looked nice when it was brand new.
Gaano na po katagal ang TV nyo? I'm assuming that you haven't had it replaced since you first bought it, or was that another replacement that has the same issue as the first one?
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Gaano na po katagal ang TV nyo? I'm assuming that you haven't had it replaced since you first bought it, or was that another replacement that has the same issue as the first one?
we haven't replaced it since we first bought it.
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we haven't replaced it since we first bought it.
Salamat sa reply, sir!
arrgghh! :-\ 'Di ko na alam kung same brand/model pa ba ipapalit ko or mag-LG or Samsung na lang ako na 3D LED din :-[ research research pa!
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Salamat sa reply, sir!
arrgghh! :-\ 'Di ko na alam kung same brand/model pa ba ipapalit ko or mag-LG or Samsung na lang ako na 3D LED din :-[ research research pa!
Mahirap talaga pag naghahanap ka ng fault sa gamit... makikita at makikita mo... ;D
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Mahirap talaga pag naghahanap ka ng fault sa gamit... makikita at makikita mo... ;D
Hindi naman po ako naghahanap ng fault or flaw sa appliances, sir! ;D Parang eto lang din ang pinupunto ko o:
Hmmm... Pardon my ignorance on the matter, but do leds that display backlight bleeding issues 'get worse' with time.
When i bought my lg42lm6200, i did notice minimal backlight bleeding that becomes visible in total black scenses. This really wasnt an issue for me since i expected this from an edgelit model. Besides, the overall pq, and other features this model offered made this very easy to ignore for its price.
Pero again, back to the question at hand... Does backlight bleeding get worse as the screen becomes more used?
I'm just thinking ahead lang po siguro. :) At saka ok lang po sa 'kin ang flaws, natural yun..pero siguro iyung at least ay a year old na or more :) ..not less than a month.
And worry about the movie, not the tv.. ;D
Hindi rin po kasi kami "well-off" kaya hindi biro 'yung perang binitawan ko :( Sana po maintindihan nyo...
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Sir, eto po message sakin ni sir Vic regarding sa bleeding:
(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/9156/c9rf.jpg)
Whew... This is a relief.
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i really like the F8000 but im afraid maybe it will have that dreaded backlight bleeding in time?
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me nakaexperience na ba ng backlight bleeding on Sony and LG tvs 55" and up?
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me nakaexperience na ba ng backlight bleeding on Sony and LG tvs 55" and up?
im using a 55 LG 3d tv.. and out of the box there's a slight bleeding na :(
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i just hope anybody here own a top of the line LED panel perhaps from 2012, any backlight bleeding on your screen?
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im using a 55 LG 3d tv.. and out of the box there's a slight bleeding na :(
gaano katagal na sir yung tv ngayon? di na ba kumalat yung backlight bleeding? ano pala exact model?
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sir anya,
i have an LG 55lm6200, from its info sticker at the back, it was manufactured last Jan.2013. i've only had it for 2 weeks, so I cant really conclude na it gets worser over time.
i also have a Samsung 32D5000 for 2 years now, may slight bleed din but doesnt seem to get worse naman.. thats why I went for a 2012 model LG when price went down, hoping it would stay the same.
from what ive read from the net, even top of the line models of LED's are still prone to bleeding. but since hindi ganun ka-pihikan ang mata ko, weighing the pro's and con's of LED's and plasma's... mas ok na ako sa LED.. :)
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sir anya,
i have an LG 55lm6200, from its info sticker at the back, it was manufactured last Jan.2013. i've only had it for 2 weeks, so I cant really conclude na it gets worser over time.
i also have a Samsung 32D5000 for 2 years now, may slight bleed din but doesnt seem to get worse naman.. thats why I went for a 2012 model LG when price went down, hoping it would stay the same.
from what ive read from the net, even top of the line models of LED's are still prone to bleeding. but since hindi ganun ka-pihikan ang mata ko, weighing the pro's and con's of LED's and plasma's... mas ok na ako sa LED.. :)
natesting nyo sir bago nyo binili?
led rin ang bibilhin ko, cant stand the glare of watching pag plasma
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sir anya,
i have an LG 55lm6200, from its info sticker at the back, it was manufactured last Jan.2013. i've only had it for 2 weeks, so I cant really conclude na it gets worser over time.
i also have a Samsung 32D5000 for 2 years now, may slight bleed din but doesnt seem to get worse naman.. thats why I went for a 2012 model LG when price went down, hoping it would stay the same.
from what ive read from the net, even top of the line models of LED's are still prone to bleeding. but since hindi ganun ka-pihikan ang mata ko, weighing the pro's and con's of LED's and plasma's... mas ok na ako sa LED.. :)
Talagang prone pa din yan di gaya ng plasma. :)
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yes.. may iba kasi bleeding na kaagad at 2 or 3 corners ng TV out of the box.
since this one had only a minor bleeding at the bottom part, i went for it na.
but if glare is an issue, i think most LED's nowadays, glossy ang finish ng screen. si samsung na lang yata may semi-matte na finish ang screen, anong model pala ng TV plan mo kunin?
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yes.. may iba kasi bleeding na kaagad at 2 or 3 corners ng TV out of the box.
since this one had only a minor bleeding at the bottom part, i went for it na.
but if glare is an issue, i think most LED's nowadays, glossy ang finish ng screen. si samsung na lang yata may semi-matte na finish ang screen, anong model pala ng TV plan mo kunin?
leaning towards either LG55LA7400 or Sony 55W804A/Sony 60R550A
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I just wanna share my experienced on SAMSUNG LED TV...
I returned a new LED 3-times because of factory defect! They called it clouding and 4 corner torch. My first purchased was 41" LED, but i asked for replacement after one week. Then i got a new one, same model but after a week i asked again for a replacement and i decided to get different (higher) model but same 41". Again, after a week, same problem was still there.. clouding and 4 corner torch! So i decided to get Plasma.
Now i'm enjoying my new 51" Plasma 3D! With FREE 4pcs 3D Glasses and Blupass Card for 6months free rentals of bluray disc!
READ THE FULL STORY HERE >>> http://www.philmug.ph/forum/f164/hdtv-thread-lcd-plasma-thread-60009/index26.html (http://www.philmug.ph/forum/f164/hdtv-thread-lcd-plasma-thread-60009/index26.html)
ah...this somehow seem too familiar......hmmmm...
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,134732.60.html
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leaning towards either LG55LA7400 or Sony 55W804A/Sony 60R550A
nice choices :) for me, labanan na lang yan sa bleeding out of the box, store warranty and "tweakability" ng settings. goodluck sir!
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nice choices :) for me, labanan na lang yan sa bleeding out of the box, store warranty and "tweakability" ng settings. goodluck sir!
led na rin gamit ko currently - sony 42" led, baka nga meron din backlight bleeding hindi ko lang alam yun pala yun lol ;D
bihira naman kasi kami manood ng total darkness
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ako rin, really didnt notice the bleeding of my old Samsung LED.. dito ko na lang nalaman sa PDVD na may ganun pala ;D
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Are you a philmug member?
nope, but im a member of the backlight bleeding victims club ;D
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hahaha.. Ok ka parekoy! Mabuti na lang yun 3 LED TV sinoli ko ay pinalitan ng Plasma!
Actually after half year ng Plasma ko, tinawagan ako ng Samsung Phils to check kung ok pa ba yun TV ko.
Worried siguro sila at baka ibalik ko na naman yun plasma! Saka nasa watch list na yata ako ng samsung eh! haha..
Pero mas detailed talaga kapag LED very detailed, kaya lang maselan ang mga mata ko e.. :D
Yun plasma naman ay cinematic ang colors at para kang nanonood ng big screen...
I'm plannng to get LED siguro after 1-2 years pa, kapag na solve na nila yun problema sa bleeding and clouding, kasi as of now, hindi ko sya ma e enjoy dahil maselan mga mata ko e..
This makes it even harder to decide whether to stick with the current brand and model we have for replacements, or kuha na lang ng iba. This also proves na branded or not, doesn't really matter..you'd still experience the same issue on LEDs no matter what.
Basa basa ulit! Still waiting for the listing I have requested from Sir Vic. Nanghihingi ako ng alternatives for what I have now. Looking for any 40" or above, 3D TV, LED or Plasma, close sa price ng unit na nabili ko syempre (27k+). Ang importante ay 'yung 'di na lemon! Although assured tayo na mapapalitan units natin, hassle din kasi kung paulit-ulit!
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You are right brader! Yun pamangkin ng wife ko bumili ng LED na Coby 42-inches.. 1-year pa lang ay nasira na, as in totally blackout yun display! Kaya kahit gusto ko ng LED for its clarity and detailed image, I decided to stick muna with my Plasma. Saka mas ok manood ng cable channel with plasma hind pixelated ang image.
Goodluck on your huntfor a new LED.... sana ok na yun makuha mo. :)
Hahaha! Lalo akong napaisip kung Plasma na lang kunin ko! ;D Whew! Matinding dasal yata ang kailangan ko! Salamat, bro! 8)
'Di nga pala pwede Plasma sa 'min! :o Tutok sa bintana at pintuan ang ayos ng TV set namin! :o
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This makes it even harder to decide whether to stick with the current brand and model we have for replacements, or kuha na lang ng iba. This also proves na branded or not, doesn't really matter..you'd still experience the same issue on LEDs no matter what.
Basa basa ulit! Still waiting for the listing I have requested from Sir Vic. Nanghihingi ako ng alternatives for what I have now. Looking for any 40" or above, 3D TV, LED or Plasma, close sa price ng unit na nabili ko syempre (27k+). Ang importante ay 'yung 'di na lemon! Although assured tayo na mapapalitan units natin, hassle din kasi kung paulit-ulit!
Yan din nasa isip ko SIr, yung hassle ng pagbalik ng item, lalo na kung bulky at wala kang sasakyan at mag commute/taxi lang.
Kaya I've decided not to return my LED, & I started watching with the lights open.
And I've also taken some of the advice na sa movie na lang mag-focus at wag sa backlight, pero minsan di maiwasan lalo na kung dark yung scene at di mo na maaninag yung palabas kasi namumuti yung black portion hehe.
I'll give my LED a year, then saka na ako mag decide on what to replace. Preferably a 51 in up with 3d capabilities para ma-enjoy din ng mga bata.
Hopefully next year ma solve na itong issues ng bleedings sa LED's para madaming choices. ;D
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Yan din nasa isip ko SIr, yung hassle ng pagbalik ng item, lalo na kung bulky at wala kang sasakyan at mag commute/taxi lang.
Kaya I've decided not to return my LED, & I started watching with the lights open.
And I've also taken some of the advice na sa movie na lang mag-focus at wag sa backlight, pero minsan di maiwasan lalo na kung dark yung scene at di mo na maaninag yung palabas kasi namumuti yung black portion hehe.
I'll give my LED a year, then saka na ako mag decide on what to replace. Preferably a 51 in up with 3d capabilities para ma-enjoy din ng mga bata.
Hopefully next year ma solve na itong issues ng bleedings sa LED's para madaming choices. ;D
Hirap nang malinaw ang mata eh, mapapansin mo talaga ;D
if you want plasma, a simple window blinds can solve that problem or try to re arrange your interior, minsan new look makes better! hope that helps! ;)
Bahala na siguro si Batman, sir! Hanggang strike 2 lang ako, then maybe I'll know what to choose next. Thanks sa tip!
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Goodluck parekoy! Here's a sample pict of Plasma 51" on cable channel.
(Sorry medyo malabo, just use iPad to capture the image. But at least you can see that its not pixelated)
(https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Public/FileSharing/image.jpg?w=AAAEyRoM8U7toRZu6DTiQMRgyxbWG5VOozgsRgZBSjVkQQ)
'Di kita 'yung pic, sir! ;D
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if you want plasma, a simple window blinds can solve that problem or try to re arrange your interior, minsan new look makes better! hope that helps! ;)
Kahit na minsan naka blinds or curtina kung tlagang maliwanag ang room nag rereflect pa din. kagaya ng samsung plasma 51 inch namin na nabenta ko na. ;) ;)
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This makes it even harder to decide whether to stick with the current brand and model we have for replacements, or kuha na lang ng iba. This also proves na branded or not, doesn't really matter..you'd still experience the same issue on LEDs no matter what.
Basa basa ulit! Still waiting for the listing I have requested from Sir Vic. Nanghihingi ako ng alternatives for what I have now. Looking for any 40" or above, 3D TV, LED or Plasma, close sa price ng unit na nabili ko syempre (27k+). Ang importante ay 'yung 'di na lemon! Although assured tayo na mapapalitan units natin, hassle din kasi kung paulit-ulit!
If you still prefer an LED TV:
Continue with your research, nothing beats a well-informed consumer. Once you have narrowed down your LED TV choices, I suggest you test all of them in SnS. You can ask the staff to turn off the lights in the store's home theater demo area- I'm sure this is a reasonable request which they would be happy to accommodate, considering you were not happy with the LED TV you purchased in the first place. Use a movie's dark scene you are familiar with (the better if you will bring your own BD, DVD or NMT) so you can evaluate the backlight bleeding. You're all set to go; it's just a matter of choosing which brand or unit with less bleeding (or preferably none at all) that would be acceptable to your discriminating taste. ;)
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If you still prefer an LED TV:
Continue with your research, nothing beats a well-informed consumer. Once you have narrowed down your LED TV choices, I suggest you test all of them in SnS. You can ask the staff to turn off the lights in the store's home theater demo area- I'm sure this is a reasonable request which they would be happy to accommodate, considering you were not happy with the LED TV you purchased in the first place. Use a movie's dark scene you are familiar with (the better if you will bring your own BD, DVD or NMT) so you can evaluate the backlight bleeding. You're all set to go; it's just a matter of choosing which brand or unit with less bleeding (or preferably none at all) that would be acceptable to your discriminating taste. ;)
Welcome to Sights and Sounds. Come to our shop and do some audition. Look for Arthur or Johnjohn for assistance. :)
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If you still prefer an LED TV:
Continue with your research, nothing beats a well-informed consumer. Once you have narrowed down your LED TV choices, I suggest you test all of them in SnS. You can ask the staff to turn off the lights in the store's home theater demo area- I'm sure this is a reasonable request which they would be happy to accommodate, considering you were not happy with the LED TV you purchased in the first place. Use a movie's dark scene you are familiar with (the better if you will bring your own BD, DVD or NMT) so you can evaluate the backlight bleeding. You're all set to go; it's just a matter of choosing which brand or unit with less bleeding (or preferably none at all) that would be acceptable to your discriminating taste. ;)
sir ano marecommend mong movie with dark scene para macheck yung backlight bleeding?
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sir ano marecommend mong movie with dark scene para macheck yung backlight bleeding?
Lip try mo Dark Knight . bleeding are noticeable on some parts if I could recall properly if this was the right movie or The Dark Knight Rises ba yun
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Lip try mo Dark Knight . bleeding are noticeable on some parts if I could recall properly if this was the right movie or The Dark Knight Rises ba yun
any particular scene sir?
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buti nalang yung nabili kong tv (just last week)(sony edge lit 40 inches) bnew, sa mall, na halagang 26k lang ay may warranty, walang backlight bleeding.
ok mga bagong technology ni sony.
SONY kasi.
may bad experience narin ako kasi sa samsung.
namuti yung panel hanggang sa hindi na nagpapakita ng picture.
kasabay nabili yung sony and samsung, yung sony ko buhay pa till now.
iba talaga pag siguro forte ng isang brand yung minamanufacture nya.
mas mahusay at mas matibay.
at kung bibili ng tv, i would recommend to buy it kung saan may RESIBO at may WARRANTY.
mahirap na yung napamura ka nga sa presyo pero sa after sales mapapaMURA ka naman...
mas kampante if talagang safe ang store na bibilan mo...
im on a hunt last week sa isang tv.
led o plasma.
nung natry ko plasma nadismaya ako sa picture quality.
medyo malabo pic, madetailed pero madilim.
unlike yung led, mahusay ang brightness, mas malinis at mas kita mo quality.
yung nabili kong sony 26k lang sya na 40 inches.
PANALO!
kasi bukod sa mura na sya bnew, may kasama pang home theater.
sa megamall sm appliance ko sya nabili.
dati kasi ang mamahal ng mga led tvs..
basic lang yung akin, 2013 model pa.
maybe you should try purchasing SONY brands than LGs and SAMSUNGs.
japan kasi ang SONY e. mahusay.
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buti nalang yung nabili kong tv (just last week)(sony edge lit 40 inches) bnew, sa mall, na halagang 26k lang ay may warranty, walang backlight bleeding.
ok mga bagong technology ni sony.
SONY kasi.
may bad experience narin ako kasi sa samsung.
namuti yung panel hanggang sa hindi na nagpapakita ng picture.
kasabay nabili yung sony and samsung, yung sony ko buhay pa till now.
iba talaga pag siguro forte ng isang brand yung minamanufacture nya.
mas mahusay at mas matibay.
at kung bibili ng tv, i would recommend to buy it kung saan may RESIBO at may WARRANTY.
mahirap na yung napamura ka nga sa presyo pero sa after sales mapapaMURA ka naman...
mas kampante if talagang safe ang store na bibilan mo...
im on a hunt last week sa isang tv.
led o plasma.
nung natry ko plasma nadismaya ako sa picture quality.
medyo malabo pic, madetailed pero madilim.
unlike yung led, mahusay ang brightness, mas malinis at mas kita mo quality.
yung nabili kong sony 26k lang sya na 40 inches.
PANALO!
kasi bukod sa mura na sya bnew, may kasama pang home theater.
sa megamall sm appliance ko sya nabili.
dati kasi ang mamahal ng mga led tvs..
basic lang yung akin, 2013 model pa.
maybe you should try purchasing SONY brands than LGs and SAMSUNGs.
japan kasi ang SONY e. mahusay.
SONY is a overrated brand, last year their 2012 hdtv(HX series) are much expensive than their rival(Samsung Series "8") where much of the A/V critics praise the series 8 of the sammy. But now their 2013 HDTVs prices are much competitive nowadays but they still got bad reviews from A/V reviewers hahaha..funny isn't it?
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nyahaha. yan may fanboy na. wala sa brand yang bleeding. Kahit pa Sony yan, magkakaroon din ng bleeding yan kahit pa Japan-made. kahit sa AVS forum, madami issues with backlight bleeding sa 2013 Sony models. Madalas ko tingnan yung W802 thread ng Sony and may mga complaints about bleeding.
Mukhang ang mas konti na nakitaan ko ng issue on bleeding for 2013 models eh yung sa Samsung.
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sir ano marecommend mong movie with dark scene para macheck yung backlight bleeding?
Sa experience ko Sir, most noticable bleedings sa Underworld Rise of the Lycans, almost walang day scene yun, puro night scenes, dyan ako bwisit na bwisit kasi namumuti na yung black portions nung movie.
Hope this helps
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Sa experience ko Sir, most noticable bleedings sa Underworld Rise of the Lycans, almost walang day scene yun, puro night scenes, dyan ako bwisit na bwisit kasi namumuti na yung black portions nung movie.
Hope this helps
ok sir salamat sa info ^-^
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nyahaha. yan may fanboy na. wala sa brand yang bleeding. Kahit pa Sony yan, magkakaroon din ng bleeding yan kahit pa Japan-made. kahit sa AVS forum, madami issues with backlight bleeding sa 2013 Sony models. Madalas ko tingnan yung W802 thread ng Sony and may mga complaints about bleeding.
Mukhang ang mas konti na nakitaan ko ng issue on bleeding for 2013 models eh yung sa Samsung.
yeah nakita ko din yun sa AVS forum ang W802 or W804(Local version) nag suffer din ng backlight bleeding eh ano pa kaya yung mga cheap panel? hehehe.....as i said overrated talaga ang sony na brand they think they are still king of the hill when it comes to quality display panel hahaha...
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sir ano marecommend mong movie with dark scene para macheck yung backlight bleeding?
Sa experience ko Sir, most noticable bleedings sa Underworld Rise of the Lycans, almost walang day scene yun, puro night scenes, dyan ako bwisit na bwisit kasi namumuti na yung black portions nung movie.
Hope this helps
Sir Philip, pwedeng gamitin lahat ng movies sa Underworld quadrilogy, all of them have dark scenes that you use to check the LED TVs you are eyeing for possible bleeding. Isa pang movie na pwede: Dark City
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Lip try mo Dark Knight . bleeding are noticeable on some parts if I could recall properly if this was the right movie or The Dark Knight Rises ba yun
any particular scene sir?
TDK: Final fight scene of Batman vs. Joker
Confrontation scene of Batman & Gordon with Two Face
TDKR: Yung 1st fight scene ni Batman vs. Bane underground
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TDK: Final fight scene of Batman vs. Joker
Confrontation scene of Batman & Gordon with Two Face
TDKR: Yung 1st fight scene ni Batman vs. Bane underground
dapat pala me dala akong hdd pag bibili na ng tv >:D
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dapat pala me dala akong hdd pag bibili na ng tv >:D
if you want those movies to be seen as indented better get a plasma panel sir or if u really want an LED get a full array one or stay away from dark room lol...
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if you want those movies to be seen as indented better get a plasma panel sir or if u really want an LED get a full array one or stay away from dark room lol...
getting a plasma is out of the question sir. ill stick with led, hindi naman dark yung paglalagyan ng tv eh
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getting a plasma is out of the question sir. ill stick with led, hindi naman dark yung paglalagyan ng tv eh
hindi pala problema ang backlight bleeding in the 1st place...casual viewing lang pala ang purpose hehehe...
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hindi pala problema ang backlight bleeding in the 1st place...casual viewing lang pala ang purpose hehehe...
naranasan ko na kasi sir ang plasma, mainit na nakakairita pa yung silaw
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if you want those movies to be seen as indented better get a plasma panel sir or if u really want an LED get a full array one or stay away from dark room lol...
Ano ba sir ang intended sa mga movies na to??? Sa sinehan ba parang Plasma????
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any particular scene sir?
Cant really recall on what part, best thing Lip ignore nalang natin backlight bleeding. I think this a part on all flat LED panels, even my friend has those very expensive SONY LEDs, they still have those problem
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Cant really recall on what part, best thing Lip ignore nalang natin backlight bleeding. I think this a part on all flat LED panels, even my friend has those very expensive SONY LEDs, they still have those problem
siguro nga, i dont even know blacklight bleeding exists until nabasa ko yung thread lol
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if you want those movies to be seen as indented better get a plasma panel sir or if u really want an LED get a full array one [/u] or stay away from dark room lol...
Id go with this honestly. I was very happy with the black levels (although still no match for plasma's) and the absence of backlight bleeds with my Samsung EH series LED.
The only reason i upgraded to an edgelit LG 42LM6200 was because of 3D, dual play, and affordability.
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^_Buti na lang PANASONIC ang nabili ko di naman masyado detailed yung backlit bleeding pero meron pa din imagine halos TOP of THE LINE na PANASONIC 42" LED TV na to eh meron pa din konti na bleeding.... ??? ??? ???
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Mas ok na sa akin ang bleeding issue of leds, compared sa issues ng plasma.. may burn in, ghosting, others may blob issue pa.. kanya kanya lang siguro :)
Madalas din kasi ang inuman sa place ko, and most request na may video concert or victorias fashion show playing while theyre in my house, ok lang kasi tipid sa kuryente. Though plasmas offer great black levels, acceptable naman for me yung napili kong led :)
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Mas ok na sa akin ang bleeding issue of leds, compared sa issues ng plasma.. may burn in, ghosting, others may blob issue pa.. kanya kanya lang siguro :)
Madalas din kasi ang inuman sa place ko, and most request na may video concert or victorias fashion show playing while theyre in my house, ok lang kasi tipid sa kuryente. Though plasmas offer great black levels, acceptable naman for me yung napili kong led :)
So far wala naman ako ako experience na ghosting and burn in sa dating 51 plasma ko kahit na gamit namin siya sa cignal cable na madaming logo. Ang ayaw ko lang sa plasma yung glare talaga ang lakas lalo na sa maliwanag kagay ng room namin.
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So far wala naman ako ako experience na ghosting and burn in sa dating 51 plasma ko kahit na gamit namin siya sa cignal cable na madaming logo. Ang ayaw ko lang sa plasma yung glare talaga ang lakas lalo na sa maliwanag kagay ng room namin.
Boss,
When i see plasmas and leds sa mall side by side, similar glossy finish ang screen nila, so assumung same position mo ilagay ang led, similar glaring effect din yun similar with your plasma? My led glossy ang screen, nag rearrange tuloy ako nga mga lamps ko to minimize glare sa tv ko
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Boss,
When i see plasmas and leds sa mall side by side, similar glossy finish ang screen nila, so assumung same position mo ilagay ang led, similar glaring effect din yun similar with your plasma? My led glossy ang screen, nag rearrange tuloy ako nga mga lamps ko to minimize glare sa tv ko
lalo na sa LG na IPS panel, glossy talaga. Yung lower model ng EH series ng Samsung last year half glossy/half matte.
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Boss,
When i see plasmas and leds sa mall side by side, similar glossy finish ang screen nila, so assumung same position mo ilagay ang led, similar glaring effect din yun similar with your plasma? My led glossy ang screen, nag rearrange tuloy ako nga mga lamps ko to minimize glare sa tv ko
Ang lakas ng glare ng plasma kala mo salamin talaga i have the LG scarlet 32 inch meron din pero di siya kalala sa plasma. Annoying talaga yung sa samsung plasma na nabili namin kaya binenta ko. Parang yun sa laptop na kitang kita mo yung background sa TV. :( :(
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yung LED tv ko napapansin ko pag all black screen medyo namumuti mga edges. dito ko lang nalaman na yun pala yung tinatawag na backlight bleeding.
hindi naman naging issue to sa akin dahil maliwanag living room ko at di na sya kita pag may picture na. tama yung sinasabi ng iba na minsan the more you know the more problems. nung di ko pa alam na bleeding yun, no issue sa akin. pero nung nalaman ko na kung ano yun, medyo nabobother na ako.
wala yata talaga perfect na tv mapa plasma or LED. LED - bleeding, plasma - reflective, glare.
the best we could do is find something na angkop sa paglalagyan at paggamitan natin.
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yung LED tv ko napapansin ko pag all black screen medyo namumuti mga edges. dito ko lang nalaman na yun pala yung tinatawag na backlight bleeding.
hindi naman naging issue to sa akin dahil maliwanag living room ko at di na sya kita pag may picture na. tama yung sinasabi ng iba na minsan the more you know the more problems. nung di ko pa alam na bleeding yun, no issue sa akin. pero nung nalaman ko na kung ano yun, medyo nabobother na ako.
wala yata talaga perfect na tv mapa plasma or LED. LED - bleeding, plasma - reflective, glare.
the best we could do is find something na angkop sa paglalagyan at paggamitan natin.
we're in the same boat bro,mas gusto ko minsan na di mo alam ang isang bagay para non issue sana in case it does come up.kaso,the longer you stay sa forum na to,inevitably may malalaman at malalaman ka sa ayaw at gusto mo.
and imposible ng i-unlearn. ;D
gawin mo na lang bro ginagawa ko.sa mga non PDVD friends ko,pag dumadalaw ako sa kanila,kung ano anong ituturo kong depekto ng tv nila.oo malamang maasar sila.pero at least di ka na nagiisa. ;D
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we're in the same boat bro,mas gusto ko minsan na di mo alam ang isang bagay para non issue sana in case it does come up.kaso,the longer you stay sa forum na to,inevitably may malalaman at malalaman ka sa ayaw at gusto mo.
and imposible ng i-unlearn. ;D
gawin mo na lang bro ginagawa ko.sa mga non PDVD friends ko,pag dumadalaw ako sa kanila,kung ano anong ituturo kong depekto ng tv nila.oo malamang maasar sila.pero at least di ka na nagiisa. ;D
ganyan din ako eh. recently ko lang nalaman yung backlight bleeding sa tv ko pero it doesnt bother me since di naman kami nanonood ng patay ang ilaw ^-^
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ganyan din ako eh. recently ko lang nalaman yung backlight bleeding sa tv ko pero it doesnt bother me since di naman kami nanonood ng patay ang ilaw ^-^
di ba ang isa sa sobrang prone daw na tv nuon sa bleeding e yung LG ld460?yun pa din gamit ko hanggan ngayon.ayoko na nga lang hanapipn if may bleeding ba sya or what. ;)
and gaya mo brader philip,kaya ko nga siguro di nakikita kung meron man e laging malawanag yung room pag nanunuod. :)
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di ba ang isa sa sobrang prone daw na tv nuon sa bleeding e yung LG ld460?yun pa din gamit ko hanggan ngayon.ayoko na nga lang hanapipn if may bleeding ba sya or what. ;)
and gaya mo brader philip,kaya ko nga siguro di nakikita kung meron man e laging malawanag yung room pag nanunuod. :)
kung sakali man madilim naman sir, iba naman ang pinapanood namin >:D
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gawin mo na lang bro ginagawa ko.sa mga non PDVD friends ko,pag dumadalaw ako sa kanila,kung ano anong ituturo kong depekto ng tv nila.oo malamang maasar sila.pero at least di ka na nagiisa. ;D
hehehe. pang asar trip mo brod. oo tama ka, naging maselan na tuloy ako simula nadiscover ko tong site na to. maski sa sound tripping, masaya na ako dati sa compo namin. nung natuto ako magbasa dito, may mga buffer, dac, pa pala. tapos may mga warm, bright sounds pa pala. hehehe. good thing and bad thing in the same way. good thing, you learn new things, bad thing in a way na nawawala na yung JOY in watching movie and the actual music/lyrical poetry ng artist. ang napupunta mo na yung mga depekto na yan.
heehehe.
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Very disappointed with my purchase of Sharp LC 60LE960X LED TV. The LED backlight bleeding is an absolute eye sore! Exactly one week ko pa lang ginagamit. Not what you would expect from a flagship model. I chose this over Sony and Samsung because of its THX certification, expecting an excellent viewing experience. I was wrong.
I hope Anson's Alabang agrees to replace the unit. Any suggestions regarding the brand?
See screenshots below
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Update on the Sharp LED Backlight issue
Nice customer service by Sharp Philippines. They reply fast!
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ganyan naman lahat led tv na edge backlight ang ginagamit kaya normal lang yan wag mo patayin ang ilaw sa kwarto mo pag manood ka ang solusyon yan.
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Sharp LC 60LE960X ang tv na gamit sa office namin. so far, wala pang backlight bleeding. though not sure kung nakita ko na lahat ng units. baka meron nang may backlight bleeding. :P
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grabe naman ung backlight bleeding nyan..buti na lang i rreplace..
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Thats the reason i stick to my F8500 plasma until i can afford an oled tv pakawalan ko na ito f8500 ko. ang pangit talaga ang led/lcd tv kahit mura na ngayon ang mga 4k variant nila indi ako talaga beliv sa kanila tech. Ang pangit talaga hehe
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ganyan naman lahat led tv na edge backlight ang ginagamit kaya normal lang yan wag mo patayin ang ilaw sa kwarto mo pag manood ka ang solusyon yan.
di ata solusyon yan. hehe
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...mine also suffers from backlight bleed pag nka-OFF ang "Smart LED" but very minimal hindi halos halata... pero once nka enabled na "Smart LED" and "Cinema Black" kahit sa LOW settings lang.. Booom!!! inky-black na buong panel!!! :D
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Ow really? Yan ang solusyon sir oznola,wag kanang dark room scenario hindi kaya ng tv mo. Lol
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whatever floats your boat bro.
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It is there all along but not noticeable sa display room ng store cause of bright lights. It happened to me with my sharp and Samsung. Good thing abenson is quick to respond. Changed them 3 times until I brought them back myself and tested the replacements in the backroom storage area. I just chose the least bleeder among the lot.